| IVOD_ID |
170951 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170951 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
23 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-12T12:02:55+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-12T12:16:27+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/628bd009efdbf44bb3888da232865e362dd155ae7acf52ac4fa83c81605d0cf7edfb78fde1fab8a35ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳清龍 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:02:55 - 12:16:27 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第23次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請內政部部長、國土管理署署長、財政部、金融監督管理委員會、中央銀行就「高房價環境下青年安心成家購屋優惠貸款3.0政策檢討：青年購屋門檻、首購資格認定、年齡限制、申貸年齡與核貸年限總合限制及政策上路對於落實居住正義、健全房市政策與配套措施」進行專題報告並備質詢。二、邀請內政部部長、國土管理署署長就「落實居住正義之困境與對策：十三萬戶社宅興辦檢討、都更社宅容獎制度失靈，暨行政院租賃市場修法三大方向(保障租期、限制漲幅、強化權益)之執行進度」進行專題報告並備質詢。） |
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27.3 |
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主席說 臺灣民眾黨有召開記者會 |
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27.3 |
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34.1 |
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針對我們出土中心跟召集武館的狀況 |
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34.1 |
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37.8 |
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我們開了記者會 我想董事長你也了解 |
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37.8 |
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39.8 |
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在這個過程當中 |
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39.8 |
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45.1 |
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我們也對董事長跟召集公司李俊成 |
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45.1 |
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54.5 |
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李先生的關係 交情 我們也做了一些了解 |
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54.5 |
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56.5 |
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那我今天用一點時間 |
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56.5 |
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60.5 |
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讓董事長你來說明一下 |
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65.5 |
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你跟召集武館李俊成 董事長的關係 |
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65.5 |
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66.5 |
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好不好 交情怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
66.5 |
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68.5 |
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那你自己說吧 |
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71.5 |
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你說啊 |
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72.5 |
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你不是要問我嗎 |
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74.5 |
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沒有啊 我要你自己講啊 |
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74.5 |
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76.5 |
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我這樣再問你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
76.5 |
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80.5 |
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我剛剛其實也跟這位委員說過 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
80.5 |
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81.5 |
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我認識李俊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
81.5 |
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83.5 |
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當然是從世俠宅包租代管這些案 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
83.5 |
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86.5 |
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這個工作開始啟動之後認識的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
86.5 |
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88.5 |
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那同時在這個過程當中 |
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88.5 |
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91.5 |
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我們也跟執行業的這個世俠包租代管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
91.5 |
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94.5 |
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各個業者 各縣市公會理事長 |
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94.5 |
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97.5 |
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其實都是維持一貫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
97.5 |
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99.5 |
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大家的交流的一個模式 |
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99.5 |
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100.5 |
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業務的交流嘛 |
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102.5 |
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業務的交流 |
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102.5 |
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104.5 |
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這個很正常嘛 |
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104.5 |
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106.5 |
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私交怎麼樣 交情怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
106.5 |
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109.5 |
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其實你說我跟這些理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
109.5 |
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112.5 |
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理事長你說這個業務交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
112.5 |
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114.5 |
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因為大家真的都很同心協力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
114.5 |
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116.5 |
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要把這些事情都交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
116.5 |
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118.5 |
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所以說大家的所謂的業務交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
118.5 |
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119.5 |
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其實不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
119.5 |
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120.5 |
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業務交流是代表 |
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120.5 |
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124.5 |
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業務即以公務 即以你監管的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
124.5 |
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127.5 |
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是 所以貼近交流互動 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
127.5 |
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129.5 |
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我覺得這是必要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
129.5 |
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131.5 |
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因為我們的政策要求重 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
131.5 |
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134.5 |
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我是要問你 你跟他有一個交情嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
134.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
135.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
我對外的說過 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
135.5 |
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138.5 |
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有過一次其實那是過一次的失誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
138.5 |
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142.5 |
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也就是造機公司兩三年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
142.5 |
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144.5 |
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造機公司曾經辦過一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
144.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
147.5 |
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陽明山平等里的水郡的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
147.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
148.5 |
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就是您這張照片 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
148.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
151.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
這一次有二三十個業界的朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
151.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
154.5 |
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就這麼一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
154.5 |
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155.5 |
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就這麼一次 |
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155.5 |
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159.5 |
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這一次不是為了業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
159.5 |
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161.5 |
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不是為了公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
161.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
163.5 |
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就是為了這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
163.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
164.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
再去交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
164.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
165.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
你參加就這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
165.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
167.5 |
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那我想請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
167.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
169.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
那李建成有沒有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
169.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
171.5 |
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居住中心找你 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
171.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
173.5 |
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大家都是為了業務交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
173.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
174.5 |
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不是為了業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
174.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
177.5 |
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所以基本上才會到辦公室找你 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
177.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
179.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
其實很多的理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
179.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
180.5 |
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為了業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
180.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
182.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
所以你跟他的交情也不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
182.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
184.5 |
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都是會來辦公室找我 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
184.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
185.5 |
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不是只有李建成會來 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
185.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
188.5 |
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很多的理事長業者都會來 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
188.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
190.5 |
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所以為了公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
190.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
192.5 |
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行政表上面都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
192.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
194.5 |
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我的行政表上面都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
194.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
196.5 |
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所以這就是一個廣告吧 |
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196.5 |
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197.5 |
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當然是 |
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197.5 |
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198.5 |
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這是公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
198.5 |
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199.5 |
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這是公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
199.5 |
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201.5 |
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這是公務嗎 |
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201.5 |
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203.5 |
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其實去日本考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
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就是為了了解包租代管的業務 |
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是怎麼推動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
206.5 |
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207.5 |
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公務嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
207.5 |
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208.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
208.5 |
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209.5 |
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居城 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
209.5 |
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210.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
210.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
211.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
也是公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
211.5 |
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213.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
這裡面的所有都是理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
213.5 |
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214.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
這是公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
214.5 |
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215.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
當然都是公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
215.5 |
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216.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
公務也是公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
216.5 |
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217.5 |
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哪一個 |
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218.5 |
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有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
218.5 |
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220.5 |
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這是他們的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
220.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
221.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
221.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
222.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
這是公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
222.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
224.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
我參加的委員多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
224.5 |
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225.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
225.5 |
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226.5 |
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很多的公務的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
226.5 |
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227.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
所以今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
227.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
229.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
要結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
229.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
231.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
我們董事長非常辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
231.5 |
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234.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
為了包租代管的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
234.5 |
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236.5 |
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要陪著出國 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
236.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
238.5 |
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要去參加委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
238.5 |
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240.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
這不是陪著出國喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
240.5 |
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241.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
是一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
241.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
243.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
脆弱不斷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
243.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
245.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
一起出國考察喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
245.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
247.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
要去居城 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
247.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
248.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
要去聯誼 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
248.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
250.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
要去參加委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
250.5 |
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253.5 |
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從頭都是為了公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
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255.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
只有一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
255.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
257.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
去江陵山跑山 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
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259.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
其實這是所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
259.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
260.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
推動政務局的行人 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
260.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
262.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
必須要的態度和作法 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
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264.5 |
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這是投案嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
264.5 |
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265.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
確定管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
265.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
266.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
確定公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
266.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
268.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
那我再來請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
268.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
270.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
270.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
272.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
現在爆發了 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
272.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
273.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
基居企業嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
273.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
275.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
在職投資公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
275.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
277.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
還有在職武館 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
277.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
279.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
這樣有一些狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
279.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
280.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
280.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
282.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
我也知道董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
282.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
284.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
您已經也回覆很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
284.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
285.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
市卓瑞委員嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
285.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
288.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
那我還是一樣的質疑嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
288.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
289.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
我們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
289.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
291.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
任何一個危急的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
291.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
294.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
既然我們這麼大的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
294.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
296.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
包租代管的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
296.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
298.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
已經都由我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
298.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
300.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
召集武館在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
300.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
302.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
那目前處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
302.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
304.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
基金稅確定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
304.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
306.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
他沒辦法來服務了 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
306.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
308.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
你剛剛也在答詢的時候 |
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308.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
310.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
你明信在協助嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
310.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
311.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
展卸嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
311.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
313.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
由其他的方面來協嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
313.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
316.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
那一樣有問到 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
316.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
318.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
你們有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
318.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
320.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
今天他的財務問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
320.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
322.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
危及到造基 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
322.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
325.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
本身這麼暗量 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
325.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
327.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
服兩這麼大的公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
327.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
329.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
如果他也出狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
329.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
330.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
你們要怎麼來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
330.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
331.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
根本報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
331.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
334.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
因為造基現在公會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
334.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
336.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
就是中央版的有8000多件 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
336.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
339.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
縣市政府六都的有7000多件 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
339.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
341.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
大家大概差不多啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
341.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
343.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
那現階段當然我們處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
343.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
346.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
基金稅確定的這個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
346.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
347.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
因為現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
347.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
348.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
我要跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
348.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
350.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
你現在是很理想的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
350.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
352.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
基金稅6百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
352.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
353.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
6千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
353.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
354.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
6千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
354.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
357.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
我們這段就來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
357.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
358.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
你有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
358.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
360.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
假設我這樣假設 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
360.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
361.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
未來這幾天 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
361.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
363.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
因為這個狀況很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
363.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
364.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
364.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
366.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
如果造基又出狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
366.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
368.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
你們有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
368.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
370.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
所謂的劇本 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
370.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
372.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
有所謂的意義包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
372.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
374.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
算給委員聽啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
374.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
376.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
我們現在六都的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
376.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
377.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
縣市版 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
377.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
378.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
公會版的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
378.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
379.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
有90家 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
379.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
381.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
六都有90家 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
381.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
383.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
那造基加上 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
383.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
384.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
基金稅6千6 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
384.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
386.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
我說除下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
386.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
387.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
我說處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
387.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
388.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
6千6除以90 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
388.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
390.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
大概就是70 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
390.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
391.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
70案左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
391.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
393.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
就是一家業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
393.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
395.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
所以說沒助處理70個案子 |
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395.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
397.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
就是處理寄居協嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
397.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
399.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
如果造基再進來 |
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399.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
401.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
大概就是增加到150 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
401.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
404.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
所以你們有劇本了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
404.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
407.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
其實當然要準備 |
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407.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
409.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
已經有準備 |
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409.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
411.5 |
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當然有準備 |
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411.5 |
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413.5 |
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所以說我們要讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
413.5 |
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414.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
房東 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
414.5 |
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415.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
房客 |
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415.5 |
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416.5 |
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要很安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
416.5 |
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417.5 |
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今天的執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
417.5 |
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419.5 |
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最主要就是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
419.5 |
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420.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
董事長你說 |
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420.5 |
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422.5 |
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你們都有準備 |
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422.5 |
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423.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
已經包括了 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
423.5 |
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425.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
如果今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
425.5 |
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427.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
造基又出狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
427.5 |
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429.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
你們一樣有因應的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
429.5 |
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431.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
透過既有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
431.5 |
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433.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
包租到管的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
433.5 |
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434.5 |
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公會的會員 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
434.5 |
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437.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
他們完全有能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
437.5 |
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438.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
來承接 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
438.5 |
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439.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
沒錯 |
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439.5 |
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440.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
公會委員這樣說 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
440.5 |
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441.5 |
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沒錯就是這樣 |
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441.5 |
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442.5 |
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好 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
442.5 |
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443.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
那我在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
443.5 |
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444.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
還是 |
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444.5 |
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447.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
跟我們董事長再跳帶一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
447.5 |
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449.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
也再提醒你 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
449.5 |
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450.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
為了業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
450.5 |
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452.5 |
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公務你很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
452.5 |
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455.5 |
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但是在這樣的一個交情之下 |
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455.5 |
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456.5 |
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難免 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
456.5 |
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458.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
難免讓我們外界 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
458.5 |
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460.5 |
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會有懷疑 |
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460.5 |
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462.5 |
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所以造基 |
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462.5 |
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464.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
不管可以拿到這麼多案子 |
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464.5 |
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466.5 |
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包括我們住住 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
466.5 |
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468.5 |
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中心本身的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
468.5 |
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470.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
包括各國會員 |
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470.5 |
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472.5 |
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主要是縣市政府 |
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472.5 |
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474.5 |
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跟你的關係絕對有關係 |
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474.5 |
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475.5 |
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跟我的絕對沒關 |
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475.5 |
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476.5 |
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因為縣市政府案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
476.5 |
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477.5 |
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我怎麼可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
477.5 |
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478.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
跟我有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
478.5 |
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480.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
現在你把它切到縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
480.5 |
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482.5 |
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我現在跟你切的 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
482.5 |
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484.5 |
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不是縣市政府 |
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484.5 |
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485.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
我現在要切的 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
485.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
486.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
是你跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
486.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
487.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
他跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
487.5 |
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489.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
住住中心本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
489.5 |
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491.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
我跟所有業者的關係都不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
491.5 |
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493.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
我跟所有業者的關係都不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
493.5 |
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495.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
社交能力非常強 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
495.5 |
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497.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
我社交能力很不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
497.5 |
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498.5 |
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各位好 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
498.5 |
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499.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
我很少運產 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
499.5 |
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501.5 |
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我回家吃晚飯 |
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501.5 |
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503.5 |
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我大多數都回家吃晚飯 |
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503.5 |
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504.5 |
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我很不喜歡 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
504.5 |
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505.5 |
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所以我喜歡你 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
505.5 |
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506.5 |
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就多回家吃晚飯 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
506.5 |
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508.5 |
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各位主要參加這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
508.5 |
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510.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
來請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
510.5 |
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512.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
接下來我請 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
512.5 |
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514.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
認證部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
516.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
517.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
517.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
518.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
我簡單的 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
518.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
520.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
請教你詢問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
520.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
522.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
我們有租賃條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
522.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
524.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
這個修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
524.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
525.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
那時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
525.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
526.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
要散入 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
526.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
528.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
租賃修法的條例 |
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528.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
530.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
我們現在在 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
530.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
532.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
行政院在整理當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
532.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
533.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
還在整理當中嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
533.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
534.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
是 報告各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
534.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
536.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
我們在整理的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
536.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
538.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
我們持續跟很多團體交換意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
538.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
540.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
所以我們很希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
540.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
542.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
送到立法院來的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
542.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
544.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
不要有太多的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
544.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
546.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
目前的版本是還有爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
546.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
548.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
社會公示還沒有達成 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
548.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
550.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
有爭議的朋友我們先再 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
550.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
552.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
我們的報告講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
552.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
554.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
社會公示一些公示沒有達成 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
554.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
556.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
但是在沒有達成之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
556.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
558.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
我記得你在去年吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
558.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
560.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
114年9月18號 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
560.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
562.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
你在你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
562.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
564.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
在這個部委會議完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
564.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
566.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
你有召開了請辭 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
566.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
568.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
說明你的修法方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
568.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
570.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
對 修法方向你還記得嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
570.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
572.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
是 我們的修法方向裡面有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
572.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
574.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
就是這一次在暫緩的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
574.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
576.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
包括說租霸的條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
576.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
578.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
租期的幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
578.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
580.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
還有租金限制漲幅的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
580.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
582.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
這個部分因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
582.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
584.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
每個不同的團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
584.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
586.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
有不同的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
586.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
588.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
所以我們這個部分就是要再審慎評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
588.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
590.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
你要審慎評估 當初沒有審慎評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
590.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
592.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
你就說要保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
592.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
594.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
修法的方向喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
594.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
596.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
保障三年的租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
596.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
598.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
因為租金是這樣嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
598.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
600.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
強化主任雙盟的權益嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
600.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
602.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
602.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
604.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
但是整個修法方向在目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
604.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
606.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
因為你現在講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
606.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
608.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
你去年講說這是你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
608.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
610.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
修法方向已經取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
610.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
612.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
開國公聽會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
612.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
614.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
開國說明會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
614.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
616.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
結果你現在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
616.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
618.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
沒有社會公示 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
618.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
620.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
所以整個修法方向要調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
620.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
622.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
所以我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
622.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
624.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
保障三年的租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
624.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
626.5 |
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我們的限制 |
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626.5 |
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628.5 |
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續約租金的帳戶 |
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628.5 |
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這些都是跳票的嘛 |
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報告委員應該不能這樣講 |
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632.5 |
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第一個我們還是有 |
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我們這個 |
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我們這個修法方向還是要送到 |
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大院來啊 |
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對啊 送到大院來 |
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你自己對外公布的喔 |
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是的委員我同意 |
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你對外公布的喔 |
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就不是我們立法委員給你建議的喔 |
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是你親自公布的 |
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652.5 |
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654.5 |
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我知道我知道 |
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656.5 |
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那你現在已經這樣一個方向 |
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來做一個大轉彎 |
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658.5 |
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660.5 |
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大跳票 你要不要做一個說明 |
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666.5 |
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為何轉變這麼大的方向 |
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666.5 |
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668.5 |
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報告我剛剛講了喔 |
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668.5 |
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670.5 |
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就是我們提出的五大修法方向裡面 |
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670.5 |
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672.5 |
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現在就是把保障租期跟限制 |
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672.5 |
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租金的部分呢 |
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674.5 |
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676.5 |
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你再往後再做一次的評估 |
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676.5 |
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我在這邊比較 |
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678.5 |
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680.5 |
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比較 |
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680.5 |
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682.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
整個修法方向 |
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682.5 |
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684.5 |
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原來是保障 |
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684.5 |
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686.5 |
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房客 |
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686.5 |
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688.5 |
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就是周圍人 |
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688.5 |
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690.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
你把這個部分拿掉 |
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690.5 |
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692.5 |
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相對變成 |
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692.5 |
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694.5 |
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比較保障 |
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694.5 |
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696.5 |
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房東 |
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696.5 |
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698.5 |
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房東跟房客 |
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700.5 |
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房東跟房客他們一定要 |
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700.5 |
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702.5 |
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一定要 |
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702.5 |
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704.5 |
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我跟你一樣的立場 |
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704.5 |
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706.5 |
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我們希望房東 |
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706.5 |
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708.5 |
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房東基本上是 |
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710.5 |
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房東如果不願意買帳的話 |
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710.5 |
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712.5 |
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沒有房東跟房客 |
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714.5 |
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這是最大的麻煩 |
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714.5 |
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716.5 |
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沒有沒有 |
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716.5 |
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718.5 |
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房東跟房客沒有絕對的關係 |
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718.5 |
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720.5 |
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房東加保障貸款 |
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720.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
722.5 |
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保障貸款加房東 |
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722.5 |
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724.5 |
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會形成 |
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724.5 |
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726.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
比較大的優勢的能力 |
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726.5 |
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728.5 |
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我不希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
728.5 |
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730.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
你的修法方向 |
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730.5 |
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732.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
因為這樣而犧牲 |
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732.5 |
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734.5 |
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房客 |
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734.5 |
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736.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
我們沒有犧牲房客的意義 |
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736.5 |
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738.5 |
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我只是跟委員講 |
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738.5 |
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740.5 |
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你的修法還是要在立法院 |
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740.5 |
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742.5 |
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所以我只是在這裡 |
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742.5 |
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744.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
先提醒我們 |
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744.5 |
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746.5 |
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我們也期待透過 |
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746.5 |
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748.5 |
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我們房東房客的 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
748.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
750.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
權益我們會把 |
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750.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
752.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
趕快的把法案 |
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752.5 |
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754.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
送到立法院來 |
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754.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
756.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
請問部長 |
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756.5 |
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758.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
這個部分的話 |
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758.5 |
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760.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
修法部分因為還有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
760.5 |
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762.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
有關於強制執行的部分 |
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762.5 |
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764.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
要跟司法院還有縣市政府來 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
764.5 |
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766.5 |
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討論 |
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766.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
768.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
那個我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
768.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
770.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
盡快 |
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770.5 |
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772.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
在主辦財款 |
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772.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
774.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
還有可能對縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
774.5 |
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776.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
跟司法院來議情的時候 |
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776.5 |
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778.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
這個還要 |
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778.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
780.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
在細部討論因為還要看 |
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780.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
782.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
司法院的態度跟縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
782.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
784.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
你其實能不能把 |
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784.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
786.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
進度 |
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786.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
788.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
我們沒辦法掌握進度 |
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788.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
790.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
還有行政院他們也是希望 |
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790.5 |
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792.5 |
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我們能夠快 |
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792.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
794.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
因為司法院沒有給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
794.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
796.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
既定的答案的時候我們 |
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796.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
798.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
只能空白 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
798.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
800.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
我們都想處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
800.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
802.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
這個條例的 |
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802.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
804.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
所以我們的意見我們都進去了 |
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804.5 |
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806.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
我們希望你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
806.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
808.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
做快速度好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
808.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
810.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
好謝謝 |