| IVOD_ID |
170940 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170940 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
23 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-12T10:22:19+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-12T10:30:22+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:03 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/628bd009efdbf44b51a2269fd325400f2dd155ae7acf52ac48cc33a1c1d0158ee2e11a24dcffeb0b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李柏毅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:22:19 - 10:30:22 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第23次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請內政部部長、國土管理署署長、財政部、金融監督管理委員會、中央銀行就「高房價環境下青年安心成家購屋優惠貸款3.0政策檢討：青年購屋門檻、首購資格認定、年齡限制、申貸年齡與核貸年限總合限制及政策上路對於落實居住正義、健全房市政策與配套措施」進行專題報告並備質詢。二、邀請內政部部長、國土管理署署長就「落實居住正義之困境與對策：十三萬戶社宅興辦檢討、都更社宅容獎制度失靈，暨行政院租賃市場修法三大方向(保障租期、限制漲幅、強化權益)之執行進度」進行專題報告並備質詢。） |
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請問中央在問你進度時回報以後算出來的東西叫做現階段不是草案 |
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好那我再問你一次 |
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賴總統的承諾新建社會住宅13萬戶 |
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現階段是多少 |
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現階段我們已經核定的是2萬4千戶 |
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你剛加縣市政府的是多少 |
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加縣市政府是3萬戶 |
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對嘛 這是現階段 |
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51 |
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怎麼會是草案呢 |
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51 |
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好 那今天內政部也說明的很清楚 |
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很清楚喔 |
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55 |
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那目標不變 |
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13萬戶目標不變 |
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但是新建的方式可能要地方政府來協助 |
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63 |
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67 |
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我講一下我的選區左營男子 |
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67 |
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69 |
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那因為產業進駐的關係 |
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69 |
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77 |
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其實左營男子的這個社宅新建包含絕標帶開工的戶數 |
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77 |
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79 |
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9千多戶接近1萬戶 |
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79 |
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85 |
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這個應該是所有全台灣的行政區裡面算是最高的一區之一啦 |
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85 |
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87 |
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那未來還有沒有新建的空間 |
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90 |
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我覺得未來我們現在面臨的是 |
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90 |
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92 |
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租補的不確定性 |
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92 |
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95 |
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這一部分我要請部長回應 |
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95 |
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99 |
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部長 才化法之後 |
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101 |
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那整個台北市政府 |
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101 |
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108 |
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台北市的才化法之後的多獲得的金額是 |
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108 |
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110 |
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1150億左右 |
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110 |
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116 |
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高雄市只獲得只拿到757億 |
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116 |
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比原本的增加不到250億 |
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120 |
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而且必須要負擔的金額非常的多 |
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124 |
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126 |
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對高雄市不公平之外 |
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131 |
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台北市目前對於租補的政策 |
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131 |
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136 |
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他還說是中央的政策地方要買單 |
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136 |
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139 |
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請問部長這樣公平嗎 |
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144 |
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地方政府是不是也應該要負擔這些租補的金額 |
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144 |
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146 |
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報告委員到目前為止 |
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146 |
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152 |
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116年的租補的負擔比例並沒有改變 |
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152 |
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153 |
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這樣不公平吧 |
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你多拿了那麼多金費多拿了500億 |
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然後租補你一塊錢都不出 |
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161 |
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166 |
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當然委員所提的部分我們有檢討的空間 |
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166 |
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170 |
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那這個檢討的空間大概會以財政收支劃分法的方式 |
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170 |
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172 |
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再來做這個檢討跟改進 |
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172 |
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175 |
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所以原版的才化法裡面有把這一部分討論進去嗎 |
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175 |
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178 |
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但是立法院就是不排不通過 |
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178 |
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181 |
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立法院通過的就是國民黨版本的才化法 |
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184 |
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那國民黨版本的才化法在台北市台中市 |
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184 |
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189 |
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他多拿了這麼多的才化法的分配款之後 |
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192 |
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他對租補他還是不願意付出 |
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192 |
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196 |
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那你從中央拿了那麼多預算過去之後 |
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你對租補還是不願意付出 |
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198 |
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200 |
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這是我今天想要點出來的問題 |
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202 |
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所以部長我們是不是跟地方政府再喊喊話 |
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希望他們在今年度明年度的租補 |
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地方政府也應該要多付 |
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210 |
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213 |
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我們再來跟地方檢討 |
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213 |
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216 |
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就是說原來中央所提到的就是租補的部分 |
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不管是權而補助或是有部分的補助的方式 |
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219 |
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222 |
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無論怎麼樣如果我們依法行政 |
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222 |
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224 |
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還是要按照財政收支劃分法來 |
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224 |
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226 |
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但是這裡面如果已經有影響到 |
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226 |
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228 |
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尤其是弱勢族群的話 |
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232 |
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我覺得我們需要再跟地方政府多多溝通 |
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232 |
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235 |
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而且有些地方政府的財力其實相當的不錯 |
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235 |
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240 |
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那如果根據我們大院所通過的財力分級的補助的話 |
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240 |
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241 |
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台北市是60% |
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241 |
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242 |
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新北市70% |
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242 |
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244 |
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桃園跟台中是80% |
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244 |
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245 |
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台中是80% |
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245 |
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246 |
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高雄市是85% |
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246 |
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247 |
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台南市是90% |
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247 |
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250 |
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這個是根據我們新的這個裁劃法 |
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250 |
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254 |
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但是如果每個縣市政府不願意按照這樣的比例來做這個分攤的話 |
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254 |
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256 |
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我們也必須要有容索的空間 |
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256 |
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258 |
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不過我剛有跟委員報告過 |
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258 |
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264 |
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115跟116到目前為止是按照現行的這個條件並沒有做改變 |
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264 |
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265 |
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好謝謝部長 |
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265 |
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266 |
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我們再來做基隆市的調整 |
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266 |
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268 |
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來我請這個花敬群董事長 |
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274 |
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276 |
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董事長剛有動氣 |
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276 |
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277 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
我覺得不必要動氣 |
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277 |
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284 |
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我們來把這個目前出事的這家營運公司的來龍區 |
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284 |
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285 |
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部長請先回座 |
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285 |
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291 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
我們把這個目前財務狀況有問題的這家公司來做 |
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291 |
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295 |
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它的來龍區賣的一個解讀 |
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295 |
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302 |
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2017年蔡英文政府在行政院核定社會住宅興辦計畫之後 |
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303 |
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308 |
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地方政府第一個委託造機做社宅營運的是誰 |
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308 |
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309 |
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是台北市政府 |
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309 |
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310 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
是 |
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310 |
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314 |
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2018年當時董事長在內政部 |
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314 |
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318 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
這個租賃市場發展管理條例通過之後 |
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318 |
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324 |
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才有後來的造機屋管開始大量的 |
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324 |
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329 |
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不管在地方政府或者是中央在推動這些社宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
329 |
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331 |
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有大量的這些委託的案件 |
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332 |
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333 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
這個是時間的脈絡 |
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333 |
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338 |
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我跟你們報告造機公司在我們社交包租代管一共有五期 |
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338 |
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341 |
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一到四期做的都是縣市政府的版本 |
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341 |
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343 |
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沒有做中央政府的版本 |
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343 |
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346 |
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第五期才開始做中央政府的版本 |
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349 |
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那為什麼民眾黨第一時間要跳出來做這麼多解釋 |
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349 |
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352 |
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你要知道啊就是從台北市政府來的啊 |
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352 |
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354 |
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所以你不必動氣 |
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354 |
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357 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
因為包租代管目前是政府的政策 |
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357 |
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358 |
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是 |
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358 |
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360 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
那政府的政策當然要有民間的配合 |
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360 |
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363 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
那這一個包租代管能不能營運是可以的 |
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363 |
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364 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
是 |
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364 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
369 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
個別公司出問題不代表這一個包租代管的業務是有問題的 |
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369 |
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370 |
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是 |
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370 |
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372 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
我們必須要把這一個釐清楚之後 |
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372 |
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377 |
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好那如果萬一其他的公司以後也有這些相關類似的問題 |
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377 |
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378 |
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我們怎麼來處理 |
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378 |
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380 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
這是我們目前要討論的問題 |
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380 |
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384 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
包含剛剛其他委員有提到旅行社同業的平保 |
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384 |
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389 |
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或者是比如說這個健身產業 |
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389 |
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健身房他也有這些相關的規定 |
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392 |
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397 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
你到一定金額預收多少你必須要履約能力要有信託等等的 |
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397 |
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400 |
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這些是我們即將馬上要來處理的問題是不是 |
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400 |
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401 |
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是 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
401 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
404 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
那董事長你覺得接下來要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
404 |
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406 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
那我們報告當然我們現階段 |
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410 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
目前有沒有除了這些投資人之外 |
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410 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
415 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
那有沒有任何的租客或者是房東找我們住都中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
415 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
418 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
大家只是在問接下來會怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
418 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
421 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
但是並沒有誰表達說他已經受到損害了 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
421 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
423 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
因為服務都還在 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
423 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
425 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
所以這個部分持續都還在營運中 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
425 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
427 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
那這個現在的制度底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
427 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
431 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
可以來保障房東房客權益的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
431 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
435 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
包含營業保一到租用專法的營業保證金 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
435 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
438 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
那在中央版的社會租宅包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
438 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
440 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
我們還有押租金專戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
440 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
441 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
441 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
這個部分積蓄稅有1000多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
445 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
造機有3000多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
445 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
448 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
這個其實還是可以往上調的 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
448 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
449 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
如果他的這些押金出台 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
449 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
455 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
甚至我們還有我們預計本來要付給這兩家公司的一些服務費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
455 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
457 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
我們現在都已經先暫時停下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
457 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
我們就是要馬上立即保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
464 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
不管是房東或者是房客相關這些合約的問題住都中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
464 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
466 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
現在的制度已經有這些資源了 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
466 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
470 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
那當然委員提到了一些強化的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
470 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
474 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
當然我會跟內政部跟地方政府大家一起來溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
474 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
477 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
能夠再強化的我們絕對會一定會虛心的接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
477 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
478 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
然後來檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
478 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
479 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
OK好謝謝 |