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呂玉玲 @ 第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第25次全體委員會議
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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:02,600 | 而換請呂玉琳委員執行 |
| 00:00:14,880 | 00:00:16,000 | 謝謝主席 |
| 00:00:16,640 | 00:00:19,080 | 我們請經濟部的公部長 |
| 00:00:19,240 | 00:00:21,680 | 食藥署的江署長 |
| 00:00:22,040 | 00:00:23,600 | 台唐的蔡副總 |
| 00:00:24,960 | 00:00:27,960 | 好 請部長署長跟陸董 |
| 00:00:28,960 | 00:00:30,400 | 張委長官 |
| 00:00:30,920 | 00:00:33,520 | 食品的安全沒有太嚴格 |
| 00:00:33,520 | 00:00:35,040 | 是一定要嚴格 |
| 00:00:35,040 | 00:00:37,040 | 也絕對不能打折扣 |
| 00:00:37,320 | 00:00:40,160 | 這是人民吃下去的東西 |
| 00:00:40,160 | 00:00:43,240 | 他們的生命的健康的安全性 |
| 00:00:43,240 | 00:00:46,040 | 所以我們要重演審慎 |
| 00:00:46,040 | 00:00:49,360 | 來制定我們的制度跟法律跟規定 |
| 00:00:49,360 | 00:00:53,080 | 這才是我們今天開這場會議 |
| 00:00:53,080 | 00:00:54,680 | 最重要的精神 |
| 00:00:55,680 | 00:00:59,600 | 食品安全是我們民眾最基本 |
| 00:00:59,600 | 00:01:01,680 | 也是最卑微的一個請求 |
| 00:01:01,680 | 00:01:03,680 | 大家在市場裡面 |
| 00:01:03,680 | 00:01:05,160 | 或者是在超市裡面 |
| 00:01:05,160 | 00:01:06,440 | 買回去的東西 |
| 00:01:06,440 | 00:01:07,720 | 我們要求的 |
| 00:01:07,720 | 00:01:10,680 | 就是要給家人吃得安心 |
| 00:01:10,680 | 00:01:12,480 | 所以中年這一次 |
| 00:01:12,480 | 00:01:15,440 | 爆發油料毒油的問題 |
| 00:01:15,440 | 00:01:17,600 | 扁平皮的或超標的問題 |
| 00:01:17,600 | 00:01:19,360 | 再次的重創國人 |
| 00:01:19,360 | 00:01:21,840 | 對食品安全的信任 |
| 00:01:22,080 | 00:01:23,280 | 尤其是在中年 |
| 00:01:23,280 | 00:01:26,520 | 作為原料油的廠商 |
| 00:01:27,160 | 00:01:29,280 | 他把生產的油品 |
| 00:01:29,280 | 00:01:31,440 | 分別供應給下游廠商 |
| 00:01:31,440 | 00:01:33,760 | 包括泰山福壽 |
| 00:01:33,760 | 00:01:34,880 | 還有福茂等 |
| 00:01:34,880 | 00:01:36,360 | 知名的加工廠 |
| 00:01:36,360 | 00:01:40,320 | 再經由餐廳到通路 |
| 00:01:40,320 | 00:01:43,960 | 到我們的零售業販賣給我們消費者 |
| 00:01:43,960 | 00:01:46,760 | 這個油品影響是越來越大 |
| 00:01:46,760 | 00:01:48,040 | 被擴大了 |
| 00:01:48,040 | 00:01:50,400 | 隨著我們衛福部的食藥署 |
| 00:01:50,480 | 00:01:52,800 | 全面在清查中 |
| 00:01:52,800 | 00:01:56,080 | 中年四月份到六月份生產的油品 |
| 00:01:56,080 | 00:01:58,240 | 最終得到確認的 |
| 00:01:58,240 | 00:02:02,680 | 就有七批的油品有問題 |
| 00:02:02,680 | 00:02:05,360 | 這七批的油品都不符合規定 |
| 00:02:05,360 | 00:02:07,480 | 所以食藥署也趕快的 |
| 00:02:07,480 | 00:02:09,840 | 要他們下架回收 |
| 00:02:09,840 | 00:02:11,320 | 原來大家以為這個事情 |
| 00:02:11,320 | 00:02:12,640 | 已經告一個段落了 |
| 00:02:12,640 | 00:02:15,240 | 但是在台中地檢署 |
| 00:02:15,240 | 00:02:18,920 | 追究整體事件的刑事責任的時候 |
| 00:02:18,920 | 00:02:20,120 | 發現了 |
| 00:02:20,200 | 00:02:23,440 | 原來早在五月十五日的時候 |
| 00:02:24,440 | 00:02:28,840 | 台糖在採購中年的製造 |
| 00:02:28,840 | 00:02:31,760 | 福茂供應的油品原料的時候 |
| 00:02:31,760 | 00:02:35,480 | 就發生了扁平坪的超標的問題 |
| 00:02:35,480 | 00:02:37,440 | 而且這一批的原油扁平坪 |
| 00:02:37,440 | 00:02:41,960 | 已經超標到14ppb |
| 00:02:41,960 | 00:02:44,000 | 我們的規定是2ppb |
| 00:02:44,000 | 00:02:45,600 | 對不對食藥署 |
| 00:02:45,600 | 00:02:46,920 | 所以超高這麼多 |
| 00:02:46,920 | 00:02:49,400 | 當然台糖會舉手 |
| 00:02:49,400 | 00:02:52,600 | 管的是管已經可以吃的油 |
| 00:02:52,600 | 00:02:54,560 | 中間製造大豆 |
| 00:02:54,560 | 00:02:55,640 | 製造壓出來的 |
| 00:02:55,640 | 00:02:57,000 | 你不用再跟我講這個 |
| 00:02:57,000 | 00:02:59,560 | 我想的問題你有沒有聽懂 |
| 00:02:59,560 | 00:03:01,280 | 它有超標是不是 |
| 00:03:01,280 | 00:03:03,600 | 當然有14,18都有 |
| 00:03:03,600 | 00:03:06,560 | 但是我們訂的規定是不是2ppb |
| 00:03:06,560 | 00:03:08,600 | 我們沒有訂脫膠原油的部分 |
| 00:03:08,600 | 00:03:10,240 | 你回答我對不對 |
| 00:03:10,240 | 00:03:11,480 | 我們沒有訂脫膠原油的部分 |
| 00:03:11,480 | 00:03:13,160 | 前面的解釋我都聽過了 |
| 00:03:13,160 | 00:03:14,080 | 我現在跟你 |
| 00:03:14,080 | 00:03:16,480 | 原油一條一條列給你知道 |
| 00:03:16,480 | 00:03:17,800 | 你們的錯誤在哪裡 |
| 00:03:17,840 | 00:03:20,720 | 你們要改進要修正的法在哪裡 |
| 00:03:20,720 | 00:03:23,240 | 所以我問你2ppb對不對 |
| 00:03:23,240 | 00:03:25,000 | 2ppb是我們食品的 |
| 00:03:25,000 | 00:03:26,400 | 可以吃的油 |
| 00:03:26,400 | 00:03:27,960 | 脫膠原油是不能吃的 |
| 00:03:27,960 | 00:03:32,280 | 好所以沒有依照食品管理的 |
| 00:03:32,280 | 00:03:36,440 | 法規面的第七條第五項的規定 |
| 00:03:36,440 | 00:03:40,120 | 向地方衛生主管機關來通報 |
| 00:03:40,120 | 00:03:43,440 | 所以我想請問的就是說 |
| 00:03:43,440 | 00:03:45,640 | 在發生有移力的時候 |
| 00:03:45,679 | 00:03:47,040 | 公營單位 |
| 00:03:47,040 | 00:03:48,959 | 台糖你是公營 |
| 00:03:48,959 | 00:03:50,160 | 你不是民營 |
| 00:03:50,160 | 00:03:51,600 | 有這些問題的時候 |
| 00:03:51,600 | 00:03:53,600 | 你就要橫向溝通 |
| 00:03:53,600 | 00:03:55,519 | 不管是我們食藥署衛福部 |
| 00:03:55,519 | 00:03:56,640 | 還是經濟部 |
| 00:03:56,640 | 00:03:58,679 | 你都要去了解 |
| 00:03:58,679 | 00:04:00,880 | 你都要告訴他們有這種問題 |
| 00:04:00,880 | 00:04:02,799 | 因為你剛剛提到的是說 |
| 00:04:02,799 | 00:04:05,119 | 如果說有扁平皮 |
| 00:04:05,119 | 00:04:06,239 | 超標的部分 |
| 00:04:06,239 | 00:04:08,079 | 在製造過程 |
| 00:04:08,079 | 00:04:09,560 | 他可以把它拿掉 |
| 00:04:09,560 | 00:04:12,560 | 那這個製造過程要被知道 |
| 00:04:12,560 | 00:04:15,119 | 被告知去執行去做 |
| 00:04:15,120 | 00:04:16,680 | 才能夠被拿掉 |
| 00:04:16,680 | 00:04:18,040 | 所以你沒有通報 |
| 00:04:18,040 | 00:04:20,120 | 他沒有辦法在製造過程中 |
| 00:04:20,120 | 00:04:21,560 | 加了哪些程序 |
| 00:04:21,560 | 00:04:23,720 | 去把這個扁平皮的成分 |
| 00:04:23,720 | 00:04:24,960 | 降低再降低 |
| 00:04:24,960 | 00:04:27,160 | 到安全的PPP |
| 00:04:27,160 | 00:04:28,080 | 對不對 |
| 00:04:28,080 | 00:04:30,760 | 所以請問一下台糖 |
| 00:04:30,760 | 00:04:32,200 | 副總 |
| 00:04:32,200 | 00:04:34,280 | 台糖曾經發生過 |
| 00:04:34,280 | 00:04:37,640 | 有扁平皮的超標的問題嗎 |
| 00:04:37,640 | 00:04:39,480 | 這麼久以來有發生過嗎 |
| 00:04:39,480 | 00:04:42,120 | 我們只能說我們所採購的 |
| 00:04:42,120 | 00:04:43,200 | 都沒有是不是 |
| 00:04:43,240 | 00:04:45,280 | 所採購的原料油 |
| 00:04:45,280 | 00:04:47,000 | 出油 |
| 00:04:47,000 | 00:04:50,560 | 是按照我們的超標的規範來做驗收 |
| 00:04:50,560 | 00:04:51,560 | 有沒有發生過 |
| 00:04:51,560 | 00:04:53,080 | 告訴他們發生過 |
| 00:04:53,080 | 00:04:53,760 | 沒有 |
| 00:04:53,760 | 00:04:55,560 | 沒有發生過 |
| 00:04:55,560 | 00:04:57,280 | 這是首次第一次發生 |
| 00:04:57,280 | 00:04:57,920 | 對不對 |
| 00:04:57,920 | 00:04:58,320 | 是 |
| 00:04:58,320 | 00:05:00,000 | 這是這麼嚴重的事情 |
| 00:05:00,000 | 00:05:01,880 | 首次第一次發生 |
| 00:05:01,880 | 00:05:03,360 | 那你為什麼 |
| 00:05:03,360 | 00:05:05,719 | 沒有盡你的義務責任 |
| 00:05:05,719 | 00:05:07,760 | 台糖 |
| 00:05:07,760 | 00:05:09,440 | 你台糖是公營 |
| 00:05:09,440 | 00:05:10,919 | 你應該通報給 |
| 00:05:10,960 | 00:05:13,560 | 橫向的所屬相關單位 |
| 00:05:13,560 | 00:05:14,480 | 大家知道 |
| 00:05:14,480 | 00:05:15,800 | 要合作的警惕 |
| 00:05:15,800 | 00:05:16,720 | 應該是這麼說 |
| 00:05:16,720 | 00:05:17,400 | 就是說 |
| 00:05:17,400 | 00:05:18,560 | 其他的廠商 |
| 00:05:18,560 | 00:05:20,360 | 如果說他也要用出油 |
| 00:05:20,360 | 00:05:22,520 | 去精煉成沙拉油的話 |
| 00:05:22,520 | 00:05:23,800 | 他應該在採購的時候 |
| 00:05:23,800 | 00:05:24,840 | 他們要去驗 |
| 00:05:24,840 | 00:05:26,360 | 不是台南公司去幫他們驗 |
| 00:05:26,360 | 00:05:26,840 | 或者是告訴他們 |
| 00:05:26,840 | 00:05:28,200 | 沒有叫你驗 |
| 00:05:28,200 | 00:05:29,440 | 互相通報 |
| 00:05:29,440 | 00:05:30,520 | 大家注意 |
| 00:05:30,520 | 00:05:31,800 | 有吃批貨 |
| 00:05:31,800 | 00:05:33,520 | 大家要注意 |
| 00:05:33,520 | 00:05:35,040 | 這個責任沒有嗎 |
| 00:05:35,040 | 00:05:36,080 | 我強調 |
| 00:05:36,080 | 00:05:37,120 | 你是公營 |
| 00:05:37,120 | 00:05:39,440 | 所以這麼嚴重的情形之下 |
| 00:05:39,480 | 00:05:41,280 | 你沒有通報 |
| 00:05:41,280 | 00:05:42,920 | 就是讓我們的原料 |
| 00:05:42,920 | 00:05:43,760 | 有問題的 |
| 00:05:43,760 | 00:05:44,520 | 不用通報 |
| 00:05:44,520 | 00:05:45,840 | 變成產品 |
| 00:05:45,840 | 00:05:47,360 | 會變成產品 |
| 00:05:47,360 | 00:05:49,200 | 原料沒有通報 |
| 00:05:49,200 | 00:05:50,560 | 就會變成產品 |
| 00:05:50,560 | 00:05:52,040 | 所以報告 |
| 00:05:52,040 | 00:05:54,840 | 沒有所謂的原料有問題 |
| 00:05:54,840 | 00:05:55,600 | 他只是說 |
| 00:05:55,600 | 00:05:57,680 | 他不符合台南公司採購的規範 |
| 00:05:57,680 | 00:05:58,360 | 沒有問題 |
| 00:05:58,360 | 00:05:59,600 | 你為什麼退貨 |
| 00:05:59,600 | 00:06:00,680 | 為什麼要換貨 |
| 00:06:00,680 | 00:06:02,600 | 他沒有符合台南公司的驗收 |
| 00:06:02,600 | 00:06:03,720 | 對嘛 |
| 00:06:03,720 | 00:06:04,760 | 就是有問題 |
| 00:06:04,760 | 00:06:06,440 | 你才要退貨換貨 |
| 00:06:06,440 | 00:06:08,080 | 那個不符合規定 |
| 00:06:08,120 | 00:06:10,520 | 副總你不要再狡辯了 |
| 00:06:10,520 | 00:06:12,320 | 你不要再狡辯了 |
| 00:06:12,320 | 00:06:14,120 | 所以你為什麼 |
| 00:06:14,120 | 00:06:15,240 | 我剛剛告訴你 |
| 00:06:15,240 | 00:06:17,159 | 你有通報的責任 |
| 00:06:17,159 | 00:06:19,039 | 是依據 |
| 00:06:19,039 | 00:06:21,120 | 我們經濟部 |
| 00:06:21,120 | 00:06:24,200 | 依據經濟部所屬事業 |
| 00:06:24,200 | 00:06:27,599 | 各類災害及緊急事件 |
| 00:06:27,599 | 00:06:29,080 | 速報程序 |
| 00:06:29,080 | 00:06:31,000 | 第三條第二款 |
| 00:06:31,000 | 00:06:32,919 | 第五目的規定 |
| 00:06:32,919 | 00:06:34,599 | 重大事件 |
| 00:06:34,599 | 00:06:37,440 | 若是影響到事業的形象 |
| 00:06:37,440 | 00:06:40,520 | 或者是影響到相關產業上 |
| 00:06:40,520 | 00:06:42,560 | 上下游事業 |
| 00:06:42,560 | 00:06:43,320 | 供需 |
| 00:06:43,320 | 00:06:44,480 | 或者民生 |
| 00:06:44,480 | 00:06:45,560 | 國營事業 |
| 00:06:45,560 | 00:06:48,680 | 就應該向經濟部通報 |
| 00:06:48,680 | 00:06:49,800 | 有沒有這個法 |
| 00:06:49,800 | 00:06:50,400 | 公部長 |
| 00:06:50,400 | 00:06:52,400 | 有沒有這個法 |
| 00:06:52,400 | 00:06:53,360 | 我這邊強調 |
| 00:06:53,360 | 00:06:54,560 | 國營事業 |
| 00:06:54,560 | 00:06:57,120 | 應向經濟部通報 |
| 00:06:57,120 | 00:06:58,680 | 有沒有 |
| 00:06:58,680 | 00:07:00,120 | 還有狡辯 |
| 00:07:00,120 | 00:07:02,040 | 不是啊 |
| 00:07:02,040 | 00:07:04,159 | 這是紙安法跟招訪法的規定 |
| 00:07:04,159 | 00:07:04,880 | 對 |
| 00:07:04,880 | 00:07:06,120 | 那是產業 |
| 00:07:06,120 | 00:07:07,040 | 事業 |
| 00:07:07,040 | 00:07:08,600 | 台長是不是個事業 |
| 00:07:08,600 | 00:07:10,520 | 對 但是跟食品安全法 |
| 00:07:10,520 | 00:07:12,240 | 應該就不太一樣 |
| 00:07:12,240 | 00:07:13,040 | 產品 |
| 00:07:13,040 | 00:07:14,000 | 事業 |
| 00:07:14,000 | 00:07:14,840 | 所以 |
| 00:07:14,840 | 00:07:17,160 | 食品安全還是要回歸到食品安全 |
| 00:07:17,160 | 00:07:17,920 | 公部長 |
| 00:07:17,920 | 00:07:18,640 | 食品安全 |
| 00:07:18,640 | 00:07:20,680 | 你們一槍就脫了食品安全 |
| 00:07:20,680 | 00:07:22,160 | 產業公司 |
| 00:07:22,160 | 00:07:23,360 | 經營製造 |
| 00:07:23,360 | 00:07:24,640 | 產品 |
| 00:07:24,640 | 00:07:25,360 | 出來 |
| 00:07:25,360 | 00:07:27,520 | 我們吃下去肚子的健康 |
| 00:07:27,520 | 00:07:28,880 | 這是一年慣的 |
| 00:07:28,880 | 00:07:30,280 | 一個產業鏈的 |
| 00:07:30,280 | 00:07:31,760 | 統統要關心 |
| 00:07:31,760 | 00:07:32,800 | 所以 |
| 00:07:32,800 | 00:07:35,360 | 在2024年的時候 |
| 00:07:35,360 | 00:07:36,840 | 蘇丹紅十 |
| 00:07:36,880 | 00:07:38,880 | 食安事件發生的時候 |
| 00:07:38,880 | 00:07:41,440 | 他們用蘇丹紅添加了 |
| 00:07:41,440 | 00:07:43,000 | 在辣椒粉裡面 |
| 00:07:43,000 | 00:07:45,400 | 辣椒粉的色澤看起來比較好看 |
| 00:07:45,400 | 00:07:47,200 | 在衛福部 |
| 00:07:47,200 | 00:07:48,400 | 食藥署 |
| 00:07:48,400 | 00:07:52,799 | 你們在2024年的3月11號的新聞 |
| 00:07:52,799 | 00:07:54,719 | 這個新聞稿當中 |
| 00:07:54,719 | 00:07:56,000 | 特別強調 |
| 00:07:56,000 | 00:07:57,719 | 食品業者 |
| 00:07:57,719 | 00:07:59,919 | 如果發現原料 |
| 00:07:59,919 | 00:08:01,359 | 和產品 |
| 00:08:01,359 | 00:08:03,000 | 有危害 |
| 00:08:03,000 | 00:08:04,840 | 衛生安全之虞 |
| 00:08:04,880 | 00:08:07,159 | 請主動停止製造 |
| 00:08:07,159 | 00:08:10,359 | 加工販賣及辦理回收 |
| 00:08:10,359 | 00:08:14,280 | 並通報直轄市縣市的主管機關 |
| 00:08:14,280 | 00:08:15,520 | 白紙黑字 |
| 00:08:15,520 | 00:08:16,719 | 寫在這邊 |
| 00:08:16,719 | 00:08:18,320 | 原料有問題 |
| 00:08:18,320 | 00:08:19,960 | 你們就必須要 |
| 00:08:19,960 | 00:08:21,960 | 將所有的主管機關 |
| 00:08:21,960 | 00:08:23,200 | 所有的範圍 |
| 00:08:23,200 | 00:08:25,120 | 統統都要通報 |
| 00:08:25,120 | 00:08:26,359 | 這個你們的 |
| 00:08:26,359 | 00:08:27,479 | 去年 |
| 00:08:27,479 | 00:08:29,559 | 2024年3月11號 |
| 00:08:29,559 | 00:08:30,599 | 你們新聞稿 |
| 00:08:30,599 | 00:08:31,880 | 白紙黑字就寫出來了 |
| 00:08:31,880 | 00:08:32,559 | 謝謝委員的 |
| 00:08:32,559 | 00:08:33,120 | 是不是 |
| 00:08:33,120 | 00:08:34,400 | 謝謝委員的指導 |
| 00:08:34,439 | 00:08:35,039 | 因為 |
| 00:08:35,039 | 00:08:36,319 | 蘇丹紅 |
| 00:08:36,319 | 00:08:37,439 | 跟扁平坯 |
| 00:08:37,439 | 00:08:38,720 | 都有化學結構 |
| 00:08:38,720 | 00:08:39,600 | 一個呢 |
| 00:08:39,600 | 00:08:40,400 | 是 |
| 00:08:40,400 | 00:08:40,919 | 在 |
| 00:08:40,919 | 00:08:42,039 | 不得添加的 |
| 00:08:42,039 | 00:08:43,400 | 一個是在製程裡面 |
| 00:08:43,400 | 00:08:45,319 | 本來就會有的 |
| 00:08:45,319 | 00:08:46,760 | 這兩個是不一樣的 |
| 00:08:46,760 | 00:08:47,880 | 不一樣 |
| 00:08:47,880 | 00:08:48,560 | 署長 |
| 00:08:48,560 | 00:08:49,920 | 剛剛不講的 |
| 00:08:49,920 | 00:08:51,319 | 一個是添加的 |
| 00:08:51,319 | 00:08:53,240 | 一個製造過程中可以拿掉 |
| 00:08:53,240 | 00:08:54,000 | 所以我說 |
| 00:08:54,000 | 00:08:55,199 | 你及早通報 |
| 00:08:55,199 | 00:08:57,640 | 如果說中年4月份發生 |
| 00:08:57,640 | 00:08:58,720 | 到6月30號 |
| 00:08:58,720 | 00:08:59,840 | 你及早通報 |
| 00:08:59,840 | 00:09:01,439 | 我們及早把中西 |
| 00:09:01,439 | 00:09:04,000 | 組合在原料 |
| 00:09:04,000 | 00:09:05,000 | 出產的地方 |
| 00:09:05,000 | 00:09:06,800 | 不要跑到下游去的話 |
| 00:09:06,800 | 00:09:07,600 | 我們人民 |
| 00:09:07,600 | 00:09:09,480 | 是不會遲到了 |
| 00:09:09,480 | 00:09:11,720 | 你通報一下會怎麼樣呢 |
| 00:09:11,720 | 00:09:12,760 | 所以這些 |
| 00:09:12,760 | 00:09:13,720 | 我這樣 |
| 00:09:13,720 | 00:09:15,160 | 全部這樣講下來 |
| 00:09:15,160 | 00:09:16,640 | 就是要讓你們了解 |
| 00:09:16,640 | 00:09:17,880 | 不是沒有法 |
| 00:09:17,880 | 00:09:18,920 | 不是沒有規定 |
| 00:09:18,920 | 00:09:20,480 | 不是沒有制度 |
| 00:09:20,480 | 00:09:22,040 | 都有讓你們知醒 |
| 00:09:22,040 | 00:09:23,240 | 是你們要不要 |
| 00:09:23,240 | 00:09:24,320 | 橫向溝通 |
| 00:09:24,320 | 00:09:25,440 | 互相通報 |
| 00:09:25,440 | 00:09:26,760 | 尤其是公營 |
| 00:09:26,760 | 00:09:28,440 | 法規面經濟部都公 |
| 00:09:28,440 | 00:09:29,480 | 國營事業 |
| 00:09:29,480 | 00:09:31,200 | 就要有通報的責任 |
| 00:09:31,200 | 00:09:32,560 | 安全 |
| 00:09:32,560 | 00:09:33,320 | 所以 |
| 00:09:33,320 | 00:09:34,360 | 你現在 |
| 00:09:34,360 | 00:09:35,840 | 我們行政院 |
| 00:09:35,840 | 00:09:37,240 | 7月份也送出了 |
| 00:09:37,240 | 00:09:38,600 | 這個版本出來了 |
| 00:09:38,600 | 00:09:39,520 | 就針對於 |
| 00:09:39,520 | 00:09:41,200 | 我們食安的這個漏洞 |
| 00:09:41,200 | 00:09:42,520 | 要把補好的修法 |
| 00:09:42,520 | 00:09:44,000 | 把補好的這個漏洞 |
| 00:09:44,000 | 00:09:45,520 | 已經送進來了 |
| 00:09:45,520 | 00:09:46,640 | 所以我們希望 |
| 00:09:46,640 | 00:09:48,720 | 大家要好好的 |
| 00:09:48,720 | 00:09:51,120 | 把食安健康這個問題 |
| 00:09:51,120 | 00:09:52,360 | 好好的來討論 |
| 00:09:52,360 | 00:09:53,680 | 看看怎麼樣的制度 |
| 00:09:53,680 | 00:09:54,720 | 能夠保障 |
| 00:09:54,720 | 00:09:55,880 | 我們國人的健康 |
| 00:09:55,880 | 00:09:57,000 | 這才是真正的 |
| 00:09:57,000 | 00:09:58,200 | 不要再推責任 |
| 00:09:58,200 | 00:10:00,600 | 互相一定要把這個責任 |
| 00:10:00,600 | 00:10:01,760 | 這個整個建構好來 |
| 00:10:01,760 | 00:10:03,240 | 尤其是公部長 |
| 00:10:03,280 | 00:10:05,640 | 經濟部包括是產業 |
| 00:10:05,640 | 00:10:07,160 | 不要一直推給食藥署 |
| 00:10:07,160 | 00:10:09,480 | 大家橫向溝通 |
| 00:10:09,480 | 00:10:10,920 | 把這事情做好來 |
| 00:10:10,920 | 00:10:12,680 | 把這個制度健全起來 |
| 00:10:12,680 | 00:10:13,760 | 好不好 |
| 00:10:13,760 | 00:10:14,760 | 謝謝 |