| IVOD_ID |
170847 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170847 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-26-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
22 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-05T12:28:12+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-05T12:42:35+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:23 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d053bb9b075f6aea668e9bd047fc9bffcd75ebd3fcd1029c8febdbf0d712d30d716be6cd68217e7c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蘇清泉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:28:12 - 12:42:35 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第22次全體委員會議(事由:(上午9時起)
邀請衛生福利部部長、行政院食品安全辦公室、教育部、國防部、經濟部、台灣糖業股份有限公司及行政院消費者保護處就「從致癌油事件發展迄今,中央一味『蓋牌、吃案、當門神』有關行政究責之重做完整調查報告(含台糖失職、食安警訊斷鏈責任、團體訴訟求償進度)及未來如何確保安全無虞的國軍團膳、學生營養午餐」進行專題報告,並備質詢。
(下午2時30分起,若上午議程尚未結束,待結束後接續召開)
一、審查行政院函請審議「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
二、繼續審查委員廖偉翔等18人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十四條及第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
三、繼續審查委員蘇清泉等23人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十二條條文修正草案」案。
四、繼續審查委員蘇清泉等20人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第四條條文修正草案」案。
......(完整內容,詳見議事日程)
二十、審查委員許宇甄等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十二條條文修正草案」案。
二十一、審查委員郭國文等18人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第七條及第四十八條之一條文修正草案」案。
二十二、審查國民黨黨團擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
二十三、審查委員黃健豪等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
二十四、審查委員廖偉翔等19人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第七條及第四十七條條文修正草案」案。
二十五、審查委員李彥秀等23人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
二十六、審查委員羅智強等17人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
二十七、審查委員盧縣一等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
二十八、審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
二十九、審查委員許宇甄等20人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
三十、審查委員王育敏等25人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
三十一、審查委員徐巧芯等17人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
三十二、審查委員林月琴等24人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
三十三、審查委員林淑芬等21人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
三十四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
三十五、審查委員李坤城等18人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
三十六、審查委員黃秀芳等21人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
三十七、審查委員劉建國等19人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
【逐條討論,不詢答】
【第二十至二十二案,如經復議則不予審查;第一案及第二十三至三十七案,如未經院會交付本會審查或未經各黨團簽署不復議同意) |
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724.79534375 |
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0.93 |
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731.29221875 |
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SPEAKER_01 |
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賴次長建信 |
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734.22846875 |
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0.93 |
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739.71284375 |
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740.94471875 |
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741.13034375 |
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賴次長建信 |
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742.96971875 |
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750.96846875 |
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賴次長建信 |
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751.37346875 |
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賴次長建信 |
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755.27159375 |
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0.93 |
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764.73846875 |
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0.93 |
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0.93 |
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0.93 |
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815.97096875 |
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820.96596875 |
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0.93 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
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821.32034375 |
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0.93 |
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824.25659375 |
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0.93 |
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0.93 |
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838.44846875 |
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0.93 |
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0.964 |
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855.34034375 |
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0.93 |
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857.17971875 |
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0.93 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
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0.964 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
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858.52971875 |
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859.37346875 |
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0.964 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].start |
0 |
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4.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].text |
副署長 戴淑芬副署長 協情教育署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].start |
6.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].end |
9.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].text |
然後國防部後勤參謀次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].start |
10.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
11.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
賀志豪處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
12.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
15.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].text |
經濟部 賴次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
16.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
20.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
還有我們台南公司的蔡東霖副總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
21.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
23.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
我們讓部長 署長休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
27.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
我們請我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
28.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
30.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
國教署副署長戴淑芬 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
台南的副總 我先問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
35.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
38.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
今天早上講到現在 大家說到累了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
42.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
我問你喔 5月11號你們去 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
42.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
43.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
你們這 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
44.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
45.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
採購是在什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
45.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
47.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
招標採購300萬公升 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
47.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
49.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
招標是4月份的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
49.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
51.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
4月份 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
51.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
56.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
那來投標的 剛剛經濟部次長說有高競來投標 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
56.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
57.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
57.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
58.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
選擇性招標的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
59.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
61.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
我們是用選擇性招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
61.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
64.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
用建立合格廠商名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
64.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
65.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
我們平常就有建立啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
65.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
67.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
合格廠商名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
67.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
69.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
那招標的時候 我們會通知這些廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
69.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
72.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
他們來投標 那總共來投標的有4家 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
72.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
73.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
4家 是 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
73.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
76.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
那胡茂得標嘛 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
76.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
77.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
77.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
82.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
那得標之後 他又交給中聯去給他代工出貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
82.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
84.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
可以這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
84.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
87.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
那招標是說 提供4家公司來招標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
87.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
89.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
有中聯嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
89.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
90.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
90.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
92.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
那另外第二級的 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
92.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
95.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
胡茂 泰山 這些來招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
95.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
99.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
因為泰山 胡茂他們都沒有壓黃豆的設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
99.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
102.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
對嘛 我現在問題第一個在這裡就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
102.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
104.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
這4家公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
104.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
109.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
自己有壓榨出脫交原有的R了 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
109.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
112.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
阿 十部長說的第一級的 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
112.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
117.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
那這些公司都沒有這個能力的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
117.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
121.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
那他們招標完 全部都是委託中聯代工出貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
121.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
122.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
是不是這個意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
122.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
123.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
123.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
126.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
那所以你今天招標是招標期末的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
126.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
128.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
還有國外廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
128.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
130.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
我們國外招標也有包括國外的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
130.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
132.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
國外的出油 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
132.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
135.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
如果說他得標的話也可以來交貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
135.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
137.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
那他也是委託中聯出貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
137.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
138.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
沒有沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
138.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
139.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
那個是國外 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
139.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
143.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
他從國外用出交的那個黃豆油來交貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
143.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
144.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
是沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
144.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
146.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
有發生過這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
146.4 |
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你現在回答要小心喔 |
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147.4 |
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你不要亂講喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
148.4 |
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149.4 |
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有有有 |
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149.4 |
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151.4 |
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有曾經發生過 |
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151.4 |
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好 那第二個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
154.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
158.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
你們拿這些脫交的黃豆原油 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
158.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
161.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
回去到你們台糖 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
161.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
163.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
你們的工廠在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
163.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
168.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
你們有能力分解 精化 除臭等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
168.4 |
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169.4 |
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有沒有 |
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169.4 |
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170.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
170.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
172.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
我們的工廠是在小港 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
172.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
173.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
小港 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
173.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
174.4 |
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是 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
174.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
176.4 |
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那我們自己的工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
176.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
178.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
他有分兩個廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
178.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
181.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
一個廠就是那個壓榨黃豆的 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
181.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
184.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
那個叫 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
184.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
187.4 |
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那個是我們有一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
187.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
189.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
有一個廠他是做出油的 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
189.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
192.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
所以你們也有能力把黃豆壓榨 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
192.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
194.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
我們本來就是這樣做啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
194.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
198.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
我們主要是購買美國的黃豆回來壓榨出油 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
198.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
200.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
然後從出油再把它精列 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
200.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
201.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
另外一個廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
201.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
204.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
我查起來是你們買的油 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
204.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
206.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
你買的黃豆跟美國買 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
206.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
208.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
你都會給它費多少錢嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
208.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
211.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
這台中聯他們這台氣壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
211.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
214.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
巴西進來是一種散裝破輪 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
214.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
216.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
就被砍的 掀開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
219.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
所以都會濕 中間如果落雨 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
219.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
221.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
所以會濕濕黏黏的 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
221.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
222.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
所以就用 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
222.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
225.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
用茶油滴在烤 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
225.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
227.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
還有燃燒不完全 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
227.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
231.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
那些東西就卡在黃豆的皮上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
231.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
232.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
然後壓榨 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
232.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
234.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
這些油幾乎就出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
234.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
236.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
然後這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
236.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
238.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
弄到密密麻麻 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
238.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
239.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
到了7月份 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
240.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
242.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
他叫食藥署 叫食部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
242.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
245.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
叫署長去拿這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
245.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
246.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
拿這個鍋 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
246.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
248.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
我是覺得很不道德 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
248.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
249.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
全部亂搞一通 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
249.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
250.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
後面叫 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
250.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
253.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
部長 食部長可憐 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
253.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
255.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
我唱了才知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
255.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
257.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
弄到密密麻麻 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
257.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
259.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
我覺得台台長 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
259.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
261.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
我覺得對你們很失望 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
261.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
264.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
我們從小都在那個甘蔗紅大 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
264.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
266.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
都在那裡捏尿氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
266.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
270.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
在那裡頭捏甘蔗 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
270.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
273.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
這年代的人都做過 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
273.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
276.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
吃你們的建樹堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
276.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
277.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
我家的建樹堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
277.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
280.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
雖然因為營養不良 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
280.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
281.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
吃你們的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
281.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
282.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
大家都很有信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
282.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
285.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
現在大家這樣會抓狂 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
285.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
287.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
那你們自己有能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
287.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
289.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
用黃豆自己有進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
289.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
291.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
從美國進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
291.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
292.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
就自己搞就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
292.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
293.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
為什麼要 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
293.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
295.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
現在就是有問題的油 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
295.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
298.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
我們的黃豆壓榨廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
298.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
301.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
它的產能不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
301.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
303.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
台糖的生理太好 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
303.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
305.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
大家對它有信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
305.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
306.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
不足的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
306.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
308.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
我們才會對外去採購出油 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
308.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
311.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
所以你現在採購300公升的 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
311.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
313.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
出膠原油 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
313.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
315.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
那你們一年的需要量 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
315.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
317.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
遠遠高過這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
317.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
321.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
是 我們一年大概需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
321.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
324.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
需要的出油大概需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
324.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
326.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
一萬多噸到兩萬噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
326.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
328.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
一萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
328.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
330.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
將近兩萬噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
330.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
334.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
就我們出油的需求量 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
334.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
336.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
兩萬多噸是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
336.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
338.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
現在是300公升 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
338.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
340.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
300萬公升 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
340.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
342.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
300萬公升 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
342.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
346.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
我們這次招標是3000公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
346.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
348.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
3000公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
348.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
350.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
那一年的需要量是兩萬公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
350.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
352.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
我看這個柏頂也不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
352.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
353.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
柏頂也不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
353.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
354.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
它一年要多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
354.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
356.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
你如果知道我就不相信了 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
356.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
358.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
你隨便亂說 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
358.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
359.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
359.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
361.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
那你 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
361.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
363.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
5月15號去採樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
363.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
367.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
發現它是14.7ppp |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
367.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
372.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
那一些油現在還在中聯的油槽裡面嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
372.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
375.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
這個我們就不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
375.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
376.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
我們當初驗收的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
376.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
378.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
有遷風 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
378.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
380.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
把它封起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
380.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
381.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
封起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
381.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
385.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
我們等於說這一桶油 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
385.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
388.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
我們沒有允收 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
388.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
390.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
沒有接收 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
390.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
391.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
還是留在那個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
391.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
393.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
那至於說後續它怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
393.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
395.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
我們就不是很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
395.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
400.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
然後你5月21號第一批交貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
400.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
402.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
100萬公升 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
402.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
404.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
也是中聯交的 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
404.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
407.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
1100多公升 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
408.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
410.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
100萬公升 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
410.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
412.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
412.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
415.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
1000公升左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
415.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
419.4 |
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1000噸 |
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419.4 |
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421.4 |
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1000噸啦 |
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421.4 |
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425.4 |
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然後第二批是6月18號也是1000噸 |
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425.4 |
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427.4 |
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這個也是中聯交 |
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427.4 |
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428.4 |
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對 |
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428.4 |
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431.4 |
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那個我們驗它是合格的 |
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431.4 |
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435.4 |
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它是合乎我們的招標的 |
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435.4 |
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440.4 |
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你們自己本身有能力去做檢驗 |
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440.4 |
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442.4 |
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還是要委託第三方 |
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442.4 |
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444.4 |
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你自己台檔有沒有能力 |
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444.4 |
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448.4 |
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我們目前沒有實驗室 |
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448.4 |
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451.4 |
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那你沒有能力驗這個ppp |
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451.4 |
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452.4 |
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我們也可以啦 |
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452.4 |
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453.4 |
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也可以驗啦 |
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453.4 |
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455.4 |
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只是說經過第三方的話 |
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455.4 |
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456.4 |
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它是比較公正 |
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456.4 |
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458.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
那你們自己在製造過程 |
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458.4 |
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461.4 |
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你從脫交原有一直往下一支經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
461.4 |
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462.4 |
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像我們食部長講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
462.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
464.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
還脫交脫錯算 |
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464.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
467.4 |
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拆到一天到晚都拆出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
467.4 |
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470.4 |
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那做拆之後要去給他吃 |
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470.4 |
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473.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
你的驗的data |
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473.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
474.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
也是你們自己驗 |
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474.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
475.4 |
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還是委託第三方驗 |
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475.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
479.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
都是委託第三方公正單位在驗 |
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479.4 |
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480.4 |
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都是委託第三方 |
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480.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
483.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
對一定要驗到合格為止 |
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483.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
484.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
484.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
485.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
那我現在要講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
485.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
487.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
我們對台檔是 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
487.4 |
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490.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
應該是最後一個信任 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
490.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
494.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
其他的可能比較沒什麼信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
494.4 |
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495.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
所以委員不能放心 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
495.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
498.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
對台檔大家是這樣放心 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
498.4 |
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500.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
結果你出事了就死了 |
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500.4 |
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501.4 |
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不會啦 |
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501.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
502.4 |
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所以這個交給保證的 |
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502.4 |
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505.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
國防部這個阿兵哥最可憐 |
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505.4 |
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506.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
這個孩子最可憐 |
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506.4 |
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509.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
剛才就吃不死就很爽這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
509.4 |
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510.4 |
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會不會這樣 |
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510.4 |
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511.4 |
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不會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
511.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
513.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
我們為什麼要進美國的黃豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
513.4 |
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515.4 |
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就是它的品質比較好 |
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515.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
518.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
它的品質跟巴西的黃豆是差在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
518.4 |
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520.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
你跟我說一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
520.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
524.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
它的蛋白質含量 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
524.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
526.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
水分含量都比較好 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
526.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
528.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
它都基改 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
528.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
530.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
都是基因改造的 |
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530.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
531.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
都是基改 |
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531.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
534.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
好看起來他們有這樣80%都是基改 |
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534.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
535.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
是是是 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
535.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
537.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
所以吃基改會死命 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
537.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
541.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
好 你們死了 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
541.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
544.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
吃這個就完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
544.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
545.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
沒有證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
545.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
548.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
我覺得對教育部跟國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
548.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
549.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
這些副實裝是 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
549.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
550.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
我做海流了 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
550.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
552.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
我現在想想以前也吃什麼東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
552.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
553.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
553.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
554.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
剛才吃吃吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
554.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
556.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
沒死到現在沒死 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
556.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
559.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
你好像也做這支土陸軍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
559.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
561.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
吃這隻死也不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
561.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
564.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
現在我們對於食安的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
564.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
565.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
我們一直修 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
565.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
566.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
今天要修嗎 |
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566.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
567.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
一直修 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
567.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
570.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
修一修不遵守有什麼屁用 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
570.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
572.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
不遵守這等於零 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
572.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
574.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
你修了再嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
574.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
575.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
不遵守 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
575.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
576.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
像這個中聯 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
576.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
579.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
他測出來他有他也不敢講 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
579.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
581.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
你現在一切部長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
581.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
583.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
我們食部長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
583.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
585.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
他也是出交原油 |
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585.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
590.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
沒有data |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
590.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
593.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
他的問題是出在於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
593.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
594.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
他出交原油 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
594.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
597.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
他把它精煉成食用油 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
597.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
598.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
還是超標 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
598.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
600.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
那個他沒有報 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
600.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
601.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
沒有他交給福茂 |
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601.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
602.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
福茂這第二批 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
602.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
604.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
他那個時候是出局 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
604.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
605.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
605.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
607.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
是食用油 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
607.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
608.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
他交的是食用油 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
608.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
610.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
所以中聯本身可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
610.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
612.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
一直做到食用油 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
612.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
613.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
613.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
615.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
這些工程都委託的 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
615.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
616.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
做假的 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
616.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
618.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
都OEM的 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
618.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
620.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
這些工程都掛名的 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
620.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
622.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
你把你朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
622.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
623.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
他也沒辦法高 |
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623.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
624.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
叫中聯高 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
624.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
626.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
現在你說的朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
626.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
628.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
做成品他也做得出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
628.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
630.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
做成品做出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
630.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
631.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
做出來要 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
631.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
633.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
他做出來問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
633.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
634.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
他又不敢報 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
634.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
637.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
這樣事情嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
637.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
638.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
638.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
639.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
市長 |
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639.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
640.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
賴市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
640.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
641.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
你們這個公司管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
641.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
642.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
差不多差不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
642.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
644.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
差不多這個行 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
644.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
645.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
怕死人 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
645.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
646.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
646.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
649.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
中聯以為大豆沙拉油 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
649.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
651.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
市占率只有7% |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
651.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
654.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
要台鐙7% |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
654.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
657.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
其他九十三%都是民間 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
657.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
659.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
剛才你說的公司也有先戰 |
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659.4 |
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661.4 |
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五京都都是 |
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661.4 |
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663.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
那個比較實在的數字我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
663.4 |
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665.4 |
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但是比較實在就是說 |
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665.4 |
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666.4 |
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中央先戰 |
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666.4 |
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668.4 |
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五京現在聽起來就是 |
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668.4 |
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670.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
他那7%都是第三方驗證 |
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670.4 |
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671.4 |
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都是合格的 |
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671.4 |
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673.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
他掛服貿的品牌 |
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673.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
675.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
結果是中聯做出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
675.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
677.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
他跟我連連做都不做 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
677.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
678.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
就吃了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
678.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
680.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
這個中聯一天出事 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
680.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
682.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
自己有什麼不報 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
682.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
684.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
叫食藥署說他太太 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
684.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
685.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
都沒有要給他足皮檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
685.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
687.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
沒有去部隊會上班 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
687.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
688.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
要去取消 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
688.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
690.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
我覺得我衛福部是有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
690.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
693.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
所以現在知道天公會在立案調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
694.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
696.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
我等一下你經濟部這樣要怎麼改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
697.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
699.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
聚焦聚焦聚焦 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
700.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
702.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
你台鐙這裡要怎麼改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
702.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
704.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
要對人家一家的食品有交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
704.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
706.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
這些孩子都吃你台鐙的油 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
706.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
708.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
吃這個出問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
709.4 |
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711.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
第一台鐙公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
711.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
714.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
平常我叫台鐙公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
714.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
716.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
建立自己的 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
716.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
718.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
包括自主檢驗的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
718.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
720.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
包括流程自身的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
720.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
722.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
第二就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
722.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
725.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
經濟部會定期去查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
725.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
728.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
審計會同政風單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
728.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
730.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
去看他的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
730.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
732.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
有照採購法的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
733.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
735.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
採購是不是合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
735.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
737.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
包括進出貨單 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
737.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
739.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
這都會看 |
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739.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
740.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
第三就是說 |
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740.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
742.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
在年度的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
742.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
743.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
結束的時候 |
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743.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
745.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
也會有相關單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
745.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
747.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
甚至說包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
747.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
749.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
經濟部議會的單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
749.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
751.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
會去查國營事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
751.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
753.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
不然在一個位置 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
753.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
755.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
台鐙出產的產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
755.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
757.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
它的原料一定是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
757.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
759.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
檢驗合格交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
759.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
761.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
台鐙的商業 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
761.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
763.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
另外它出產的產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
763.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
765.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
也要特別是 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
765.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
767.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
食品的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
767.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
769.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
它要通過食安法的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
769.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
770.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
我告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
770.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
772.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
現在我們民間 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
772.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
774.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
我們常常走行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
774.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
776.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
民間對台鐙 |
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776.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
778.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
是真的reliable company |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
778.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
780.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
這幾十年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
780.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
781.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
很多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
781.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
782.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
在這裡的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
782.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
784.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
很多跟台鐙有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
784.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
786.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
土地、食物這樣站 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
786.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
788.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
所以對台鐙是有絕對的信心 |
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788.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
790.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
其他人我沒有信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
790.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
791.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
對台鐙有信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
791.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
793.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
所以我現在具體建議 |
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793.4 |
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795.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
結束了 |
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795.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
796.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
具體建議就是說 |
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796.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
798.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
台鐙自己在美國買房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
798.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
799.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
用費貴租 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
799.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
801.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
拼一件保證 |
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801.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
802.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
你自己拿油 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
802.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
803.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
自己拿自己做 |
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803.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
804.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
你就擴廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
804.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
806.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
自己擴自己的廠 |
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806.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
807.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
台鐙那麼好 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
807.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
809.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
專大人最大的地主 |
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809.4 |
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811.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
現在一年到十五年 |
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811.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
812.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
收到這幾十萬人 |
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812.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
813.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
對不對 |
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813.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
814.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
五萬多公斤的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
815.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
817.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
市長你了解嗎 |
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817.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
818.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
自己在做 |
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818.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
821.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
你萬一敢買中間的油品 |
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821.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
823.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
感謝威丸支持台鐙 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
823.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
824.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
絕對支持你 |
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824.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
826.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
自己在客戶 |
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826.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
827.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
自己在賣 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
827.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
828.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
交給副食品 |
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828.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
830.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
給孩子吃 |
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830.4 |
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831.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
這樣吃的孩子 |
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831.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
833.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
你怎麼跟道道破鐘 |
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833.4 |
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835.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
不然你去市場買東西 |
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835.4 |
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837.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
國外要交你二級 |
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837.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
839.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
感謝威丸對台鐙 |
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839.4 |
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841.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
有來賺定的信心 |
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841.4 |
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843.4 |
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現在這個年代 |
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843.4 |
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844.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
也是講任性 |
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844.4 |
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846.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
台鐙你是最老牌的 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
846.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
848.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
我們對你有絕對的信心 |
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848.4 |
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851.4 |
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你不做到我們被非編罵 |
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851.4 |
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853.4 |
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真的是對不起國人 |
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853.4 |
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855.4 |
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市長我這樣強具體建議 |
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855.4 |
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857.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
我總執行要再問你 |
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857.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
858.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
感謝威丸 |
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858.4 |
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859.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
謝謝 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
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好,謝謝主席,請教育部學前教育署戴淑芬副署長、國防部後勤參謀次長室賀志豪處長、經濟部賴次長,還有台糖公司蔡東霖副總經理。 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
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請部長、署長先休息。 |
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主席 |
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好,請國教署副署長戴淑芬、台糖…… |
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蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-08-05T12:28:47.500000+08:00 |
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今天早上講到現在,大家都講到累了,請問副總,你們招標採購300萬公升是在什麼時候? |
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蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-08-05T12:28:59.900000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2026-08-05T12:29:01.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].text |
招標是4月份的時候。 |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-08-05T12:29:01.900000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-08-05T12:29:02.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
4月份,好。 |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-08-05T12:29:03.663158+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-08-05T12:29:08.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
來投標的廠商,剛剛經濟部次長說有9間來投標,真的嗎? |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.773 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-08-05T12:29:11.400000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-08-05T12:29:24.900000+08:00 |
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我們是用選擇性招標,就是我們平常會建立合格廠商名單,招標的時候,會通知這些廠商來投標,總共來投標的有4家。4家?是。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-08-05T12:29:26.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-08-05T12:29:28.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
結果福懋得標,對不對?對。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-08-05T12:29:29.677778+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-08-05T12:29:36+08:00 |
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福懋得標之後,又交給中聯代工出貨,可以這樣嗎? |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-08-05T12:29:36.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-08-05T12:29:40.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
那天來投標的4家公司,有中聯嗎? |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-08-05T12:29:41.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-08-05T12:29:41.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
沒有、沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-08-05T12:29:43.257143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-08-05T12:29:47.066667+08:00 |
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都是第二級的福懋、泰山這些公司來投標? |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.588 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-08-05T12:29:47.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-08-05T12:29:51.587500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
因為泰山、福懋他們沒有壓黃豆的設備。對嘛! |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-08-05T12:29:51.775000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-08-05T12:30:14.400000+08:00 |
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我現在第一個問題就在這裡,這四間公司自己有壓榨出脫膠原油的工具,石部長跟我講那是第一級的,這些公司都沒有這個能力的話,他們招標完就全部都委託中聯代工出貨,是不是這個意思?是。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-08-05T12:30:15.600000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-08-05T12:30:18.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
所以這樣的招標根本就是在招標心酸的嘛! |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-08-05T12:30:20.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-08-05T12:30:27.185714+08:00 |
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我們的公開招標也有包括國外的廠商,國外的粗油如果有得標的話,他可以來交貨。 |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-08-05T12:30:27.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-08-05T12:30:29.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
他也是委託中聯出貨嗎? |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-08-05T12:30:30.066667+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-08-05T12:30:31.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
沒有,那個是國外的。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-08-05T12:30:31.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-08-05T12:30:35.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
他從國外用脫膠的黃豆油來交貨? |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-08-05T12:30:35.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-08-05T12:30:36.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
是的,沒有錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-08-05T12:30:36.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-08-05T12:30:38.114286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
有發生過這樣的嗎? |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-08-05T12:30:38.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-08-05T12:30:41.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
你現在的回答要小心,不要亂講喔!有。有? |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-08-05T12:30:41.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-08-05T12:30:43.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
有曾經發生過? |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-08-05T12:30:43.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-08-05T12:30:55.150000+08:00 |
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好,第二個問題,你們拿這些脫膠的黃豆原油回到你們台糖,你們的工廠在哪裡? |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-08-05T12:30:55.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-08-05T12:31:01.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
你們有能力分解、精化、除臭等等,有沒有?有。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-08-05T12:31:01.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-08-05T12:31:02.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
你們的工廠在哪裡? |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-08-05T12:31:02.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-08-05T12:31:05.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
我們的工廠在小港。小港?是。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-08-05T12:31:06.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-08-05T12:31:21.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
我們自己的工廠有分兩個廠,一個廠是壓榨黃豆的,那個是……我們有一個廠是做粗油的。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-08-05T12:31:21.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-08-05T12:31:23.707692+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
所以你們也有能力壓榨黃豆? |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-08-05T12:31:24.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-08-05T12:31:26.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
我們本來就是這樣做的啊! |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-08-05T12:31:26.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-08-05T12:31:33.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
我們主要是購買美國的黃豆回來壓榨粗油,然後再由另外一個廠把粗油精煉…… |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.781 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-08-05T12:31:33.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-08-05T12:31:40.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
我查來的是,你們向美國買的黃豆都是用貨櫃裝的嘛!是。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.522 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-08-05T12:31:41+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-08-05T12:32:06.177778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
中聯向巴西進的貨用的都是散裝貨輪,也就是用鐵皮蓋住可以掀開的那種,所以都會變得潮濕,中途如果有下雨就會變得濕濕黏黏的,然後就會用柴油一直烘,柴油燃燒不完全,那些東西就會卡在黃豆的皮上面,一壓榨這些有機物就出來了。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-08-05T12:32:07.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-08-05T12:32:20.150000+08:00 |
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這些事情處理得「糜糜卯卯」,到了7月才要食藥署、石部長和署長去揹這個鍋,我覺得很不道德! |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.676 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-08-05T12:32:20.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-08-05T12:32:24.971429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
前面亂搞一通,後面叫……石部長很可憐! |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-08-05T12:32:26.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-08-05T12:32:33.177778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
到了7月才知道,被搞得「糜糜卯卯」,我對台糖覺得很失望! |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.455 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-08-05T12:32:33.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-08-05T12:32:46.685714+08:00 |
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我從小就是在甘蔗園長大的,都在那裡抓老鼠、偷挖甘蔗,那是我們這個年代的人都做過的。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.595 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-08-05T12:32:50.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-08-05T12:32:57.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
因為小孩子營養不良,就吃你們黑黑的健素糖,大家對吃你們的東西都很有信心,現在這樣大家會抓狂的。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.558 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-08-05T12:32:57.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-08-05T12:33:07.177778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
你們自己有能力,可以自己從美國進口黃豆,你就自己搞就好了,為什麼要去買這些有問題的油呢? |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-08-05T12:33:07.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-08-05T12:33:12.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
我們黃豆壓榨廠的產能不夠。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-08-05T12:33:13.685714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-08-05T12:33:17.114286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
台糖的生意太好,大家對你們太有信心了? |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.647 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-08-05T12:33:17.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-08-05T12:33:20.218182+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
有不足的部分,我們才會對外採購粗油。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-08-05T12:33:20.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-08-05T12:33:29.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
所以你們現在採購300公升的脫膠原油,但你們一年的需要量又遠遠高過這個數字? |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-08-05T12:33:29.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-08-05T12:33:39.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
是,我們一年需要的粗油大概是一萬多噸到兩萬噸。一萬…… |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-08-05T12:33:40.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-08-05T12:33:45.955556+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
將近2萬噸,這是我們粗油的需求量。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-08-05T12:33:46.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-08-05T12:33:48.114286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
兩萬多噸是多少? |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-08-05T12:33:48.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-08-05T12:33:50+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
你們現在買300公升? |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-08-05T12:33:50.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-08-05T12:33:51.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
還是300萬公升?3,000…… |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-08-05T12:33:52.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-08-05T12:33:53.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
300萬公升就是…… |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-08-05T12:33:54.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-08-05T12:33:57.955556+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
我們這次招標的是3,000公噸。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-08-05T12:34:00.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-08-05T12:34:02.233333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
你們一年的需要量是2萬公噸……2萬。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-08-05T12:34:02.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-08-05T12:34:04.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
我看這個部長也不知道吧! |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-08-05T12:34:05.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-08-05T12:34:06.233333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
部長可知他們一年的需要量是多少? |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-08-05T12:34:06.581818+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-08-05T12:34:09.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
如果你知道,我就不相信了,你絕對亂講的。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.706 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-08-05T12:34:12.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-08-05T12:34:24.087500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
你5月15號去採樣,發現它有14.7 ppb,那些油現在還在中聯的油槽裡面嗎? |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-08-05T12:34:24.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-08-05T12:34:32+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
這個我們就不曉得了,我們當初驗收的時候有鉛封,也就是把它封起來啦! |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.767 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-08-05T12:34:34.288889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-08-05T12:34:43.275000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
等於是這一桶油我們沒有允收,也就是沒有接收,還是留在那個地方。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-08-05T12:34:43.581818+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-08-05T12:34:47.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
至於後續它怎麼處理,我們就不是很清楚了。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-08-05T12:34:48.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-08-05T12:34:56.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
你5月21號第一批交貨100萬公升,也是中聯交的,是不是? |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-08-05T12:34:56.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-08-05T12:34:58.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
是一千一百多公升。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.375 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:00.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:01.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
不是100萬公升嗎? |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:02.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:03.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
沒有啦! |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:03.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:04.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
沒那麼多嗎? |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:04.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:06.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
沒那麼多,一千公升左右啦! |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.364 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:06.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:11.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
不是有1,000噸? |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:11.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:12.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
應該是1,000噸啦! |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:14.127273+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:17.036364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
第二批是6月18號,這也是1,000噸?對。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:17.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:19.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
這也是中聯交的?對。所以…… |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:21+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:27+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
我們驗的時候,它是合格的,有合乎我們招標的規範。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:27.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:33.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
你們自己本身有能力去做檢驗,還是要委託…… |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:33.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:34.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
沒有,我們是送第三方的單位。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:34.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:36.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
你們台糖自己有沒有能力? |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:36.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:37.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
我們目前…… |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:38.177778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:39.955556+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
沒有實驗室? |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:39.955556+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:40.955556+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
我們有實驗室。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:40.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:41.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
你們沒有能力驗苯駢芘? |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:43.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:48.233333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
我們也可以驗啦,只是經過第三方的話會比較公正。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:48.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-08-05T12:35:59.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
你們自己在製造過程中,從脫膠原油往下一直精煉,就像石部長講的,要脫膠、脫臭,最後才能把整桶做出來嘛! |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.545 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-08-05T12:35:59.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-08-05T12:36:07.275000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
那些做出來之後要給人吃,所驗出來的data是你們自己驗,還是委託第三方驗? |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.794 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-08-05T12:36:07.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-08-05T12:36:11.092308+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
都是委託第三方的公正單位在驗的。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-08-05T12:36:11.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-08-05T12:36:12.257143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
都是委託第三方驗的? |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-08-05T12:36:12.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-08-05T12:36:15.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
對,一定要驗到合格為止。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-08-05T12:36:16.542857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-08-05T12:36:26.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
我現在要講的是,台糖對我們來說是信任的最後一道防線,我們對其他的可能還沒什麼信心…… |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-08-05T12:36:26.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-08-05T12:36:27.275000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
委員對此可以放心啦!台糖…… |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.364 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-08-05T12:36:27.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-08-05T12:36:32.177778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
我們對台糖可是很放心的,結果你們也出事,那不就死了嗎? |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-08-05T12:36:32.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-08-05T12:36:33.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
不會啦! |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-08-05T12:36:33.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-08-05T12:36:40.036364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
所以教育部這邊的孩子、國防部的阿兵哥不就最可憐,送來就吃,沒吃死就算了? |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.531 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-08-05T12:36:41.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-08-05T12:36:42.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
會不會是這樣? |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-08-05T12:36:42.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-08-05T12:36:43.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
不會啦! |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-08-05T12:36:43.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-08-05T12:36:47.177778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
我們為什麼要進美國的黃豆,就是因為它的品質比較好啦! |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-08-05T12:36:47.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-08-05T12:36:50.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
它和巴西黃豆的品質是差在哪裡? |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.643 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-08-05T12:36:50.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-08-05T12:36:52.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
你跟我講一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-08-05T12:36:52.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-08-05T12:36:58.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
它的蛋白質含量、水分含量都比較好。 |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-08-05T12:36:58.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-08-05T12:37:02.114286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
他們都是基改(基因改造)的? |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-08-05T12:37:02.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-08-05T12:37:03.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
都是基改的。 |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-08-05T12:37:04.257143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-08-05T12:37:06.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
他們好像有80%都是基改的嘛!是的。 |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-08-05T12:37:07.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-08-05T12:37:08.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
吃基改的會死嗎? |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-08-05T12:37:08.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-08-05T12:37:13.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
部長,會死嗎? |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-08-05T12:37:13.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-08-05T12:37:15.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
吃到不就慘了? |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-08-05T12:37:16.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-08-05T12:37:17.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
沒有證據啦! |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-08-05T12:37:17.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-08-05T12:37:25.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
我對教育部跟國防部的副食中心……我以前是當海陸的,現在想想我以前到底吃了什麼,我也不知道耶! |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0.61 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-08-05T12:37:25.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-08-05T12:37:31.127273+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
反正就是送來就吃,只是到現在沒有死,部長是當陸軍的嗎? |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
0.375 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-08-05T12:37:31.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-08-05T12:37:33.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
就算吃死了也不知道啊! |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-08-05T12:37:33.945455+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-08-05T12:37:42.127273+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
我們對於食安的問題是一直在修法,今天又要修法,就是一直修,修一修,不遵守有什麼屁用? |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.811 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-08-05T12:37:42.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-08-05T12:37:44.114286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
不遵守就等於是零嘛! |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-08-05T12:37:44.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-08-05T12:38:01.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
就算修得再嚴,都不遵守,就像中聯的油被測出來它也不敢講,現在一下子石部長說它那個是脫膠原油,沒有data就對了? |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
0.608 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-08-05T12:38:02.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2026-08-05T12:38:12.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
它的問題是出在於把脫膠原油精煉成食用油後還是超標,那個部分它沒有報啦! |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-08-05T12:38:12.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-08-05T12:38:12.542857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
沒有啊! |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-08-05T12:38:12.828571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-08-05T12:38:15.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
它交給福懋做第二批,那個時候是初級…… |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
0.688 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-08-05T12:38:16.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-08-05T12:38:20.257143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
不是,它交的是食用油。 |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-08-05T12:38:20.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-08-05T12:38:24.114286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
所以中聯本身可以一路做到食用油? |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
蔡副總經理東霖 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-08-05T12:38:24.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-08-05T12:38:25.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
沒有錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-08-05T12:38:25.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-08-05T12:38:28.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
這些公司都委託它做,那不就是都在做假的? |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
0.444 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-08-05T12:38:28.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-08-05T12:38:30+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
都是OEM的嘛! |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-08-05T12:38:30.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-08-05T12:38:35.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
那些公司都只是掛名而已,就算是向你們投標,標到了,他們也沒辦法交貨,而是要中聯交。 |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-08-05T12:38:36.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2026-08-05T12:38:48.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
現在你講它得標之後要做成品,它也做得出來,它把成品做出來之後,檢出有問題,它也不敢通報,這樣一來事態可就嚴重了。 |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0.54 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-08-05T12:38:51.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2026-08-05T12:38:55.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
賴次長,你們把這些公司管理成這樣,哪能這樣管啦! |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0.476 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-08-05T12:38:56.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2026-08-05T12:38:57.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
真是嚇死人了! |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2026-08-05T12:38:57.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2026-08-05T12:39:10.854545+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
跟委員報告,台糖大豆沙拉油市占率只有7%,其他的93%都是民間的,剛才你講到的公司也有生產。 |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
0.744 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2026-08-05T12:39:11.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2026-08-05T12:39:12.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
那五間都有嗎? |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2026-08-05T12:39:14.015385+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[121].end |
2026-08-05T12:39:16.288889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].text |
確實的數字,我不知道,但是台糖生產的確實…… |
| transcript.gazette[121].quality |
0.611 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2026-08-05T12:39:18.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2026-08-05T12:39:20.177778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].text |
那五間現在聽起來就是…… |
| transcript.gazette[122].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2026-08-05T12:39:20.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2026-08-05T12:39:23.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].text |
那7%都有第三方驗證,都是合格的產品。 |
| transcript.gazette[123].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2026-08-05T12:39:23.685714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[124].end |
2026-08-05T12:39:29.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].text |
它掛的是福懋的品牌,結果是中聯做出來的,搞不好連做都沒有做,大家就吃了。 |
| transcript.gazette[124].quality |
0.594 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2026-08-05T12:39:30.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2026-08-05T12:39:37.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].text |
中聯一天到晚出事,自己也不敢通報,現在要食藥署去逐批檢查,不然就是部長去那邊站崗,這樣不是很讓人抓狂? |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
0.348 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2026-08-05T12:39:40.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2026-08-05T12:39:42.036364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].text |
我覺得衛福部實在是很可憐,我要在這裡替他們講話。 |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
0.364 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2026-08-05T12:39:42.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2026-08-05T12:39:45.185714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
所以他們才會再立案調查啊! |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[128].start |
2026-08-05T12:39:46.933333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[128].end |
2026-08-05T12:39:48.266667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].text |
你們經濟部要如何改善? |
| transcript.gazette[128].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[129].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[129].start |
2026-08-05T12:39:50.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[129].end |
2026-08-05T12:39:51.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].text |
請聚焦。 |
| transcript.gazette[129].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[130].start |
2026-08-05T12:39:52.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[130].end |
2026-08-05T12:39:54.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].text |
你們台糖這裡要怎麼改善? |
| transcript.gazette[130].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[131].start |
2026-08-05T12:39:54.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[131].end |
2026-08-05T12:40:00.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].text |
要對人家有交代,人家的孩子吃你們的副食品,人家的孩子都吃你們台糖的油,吃一吃吃出問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[131].quality |
0.462 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[132].start |
2026-08-05T12:40:01.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[132].end |
2026-08-05T12:40:43.114286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].text |
第一個,我們有要求台糖公司平常要建立包括自主檢驗的標準、包括流程自身的標準;第二個,經濟部會定期去查核,甚至也會同政風單位去看他的採購有沒有照採購法的規定、採購是不是合理,包括進出貨單都會看;第三個,年度要結束的時候,也會有相關單位,甚至包括經濟部以外的單位,會去查國營事業。 |
| transcript.gazette[132].quality |
0.848 |
| transcript.gazette[133].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[133].start |
2026-08-05T12:40:44.257143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[133].end |
2026-08-05T12:41:01.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].text |
目前為止,台糖產品的原料一定要檢驗合格,才能進來台糖的廠裡面,另外,他出產的產品,特別是食品,也要通過食安法的規定。 |
| transcript.gazette[133].quality |
0.392 |
| transcript.gazette[134].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[134].start |
2026-08-05T12:41:01.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[134].end |
2026-08-05T12:41:10.288889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].text |
我跟你講,我們常常在跑行程,現在台糖對於民間真的是reliable的company……是啊!是啊! |
| transcript.gazette[134].quality |
0.628 |
| transcript.gazette[135].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[135].start |
2026-08-05T12:41:10.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[135].end |
2026-08-05T12:41:23.233333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].text |
這幾十年來,包括坐在這裡的人,很多都跟台糖有關係,用他的土地或是吃他出產的東西,所以對台糖是有絕對的信心,若說是其他的,沒信心;對台糖,有信心。 |
| transcript.gazette[135].quality |
0.587 |
| transcript.gazette[136].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[136].start |
2026-08-05T12:41:23.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[136].end |
2026-08-05T12:41:45.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].text |
所以我現在具體建議,你們台糖自己去美國買黃豆,用貨櫃裝,品質可以保證,原料買來,你們自己處理自己製油,你們就擴自己的廠,台糖那麼有錢,是全臺灣最大的地主,一年光租金收入就嚇死人,對不對? |
| transcript.gazette[136].quality |
0.524 |
| transcript.gazette[137].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[137].start |
2026-08-05T12:41:45.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[137].end |
2026-08-05T12:41:46.275000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].text |
有五萬多公頃的土地。 |
| transcript.gazette[137].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[138].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[138].start |
2026-08-05T12:41:47.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[138].end |
2026-08-05T12:41:49.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].text |
次長,你了解嗎? |
| transcript.gazette[138].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[139].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[139].start |
2026-08-05T12:41:49.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[139].end |
2026-08-05T12:41:53.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].text |
自己處理,你們不要再去跟人家買中間的油品。 |
| transcript.gazette[139].quality |
0.474 |
| transcript.gazette[140].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[140].start |
2026-08-05T12:41:53.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[140].end |
2026-08-05T12:41:54.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].text |
感謝委員支持台糖。 |
| transcript.gazette[140].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[141].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[141].start |
2026-08-05T12:41:55.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[141].end |
2026-08-05T12:42:09.114286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].text |
絕對支持,自己製油自己販賣,用來做副食品,給國軍、給孩子吃,這樣孩子才有保障,不然你們四處亂買,什麼國外要交給你二級…… |
| transcript.gazette[141].quality |
0.608 |
| transcript.gazette[142].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[142].start |
2026-08-05T12:42:09.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[142].end |
2026-08-05T12:42:13.114286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].text |
感謝委員對台糖產品的信心。 |
| transcript.gazette[142].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[143].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[143].start |
2026-08-05T12:42:13.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[143].end |
2026-08-05T12:42:25.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].text |
現在這個年代也是講韌性,台糖是最老牌的,我們對你們有絕對的信心,你們不要做到開花、翻盤,不然真的是對不起國人! |
| transcript.gazette[143].quality |
0.755 |
| transcript.gazette[144].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[144].start |
2026-08-05T12:42:25.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[144].end |
2026-08-05T12:42:29.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].text |
次長,我這樣具體建議,我在總質詢時,還要再跟你請教。 |
| transcript.gazette[144].quality |
0.591 |
| transcript.gazette[145].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[145].start |
2026-08-05T12:42:29.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[145].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[145].end |
2026-08-05T12:42:29.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[145].text |
好,感謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[145].quality |
0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[146].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[146].start |
2026-08-05T12:42:30.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[146].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[146].end |
2026-08-05T12:42:31.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[146].text |
好,以上。 |
| transcript.gazette[146].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[147].speaker |
主席(涂委員權吉代) |
| transcript.gazette[147].start |
2026-08-05T12:42:31.450000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[147].end |
2026-08-05T12:42:33.450000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].text |
謝謝蘇清泉委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[147].quality |
0.286 |
| transcript.gazette[148].speaker |
主席(涂委員權吉代) |
| transcript.gazette[148].start |
2026-08-05T12:42:33.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[148].end |
2026-08-05T12:42:36.321429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].text |
下一位請廖偉翔委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[148].quality |
0 |