iVOD / 170847

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IVOD_ID 170847
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170847
日期 2026-08-05
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-26-22
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第22次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 22
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 26
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 社會福利及衛生環境委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第22次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-08-05T12:28:12+08:00
結束時間 2026-08-05T12:42:35+08:00
影片長度 00:14:23
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 蘇清泉
委員發言時間 12:28:12 - 12:42:35
會議時間 2026-08-05T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第22次全體委員會議(事由:(上午9時起) 邀請衛生福利部部長、行政院食品安全辦公室、教育部、國防部、經濟部、台灣糖業股份有限公司及行政院消費者保護處就「從致癌油事件發展迄今,中央一味『蓋牌、吃案、當門神』有關行政究責之重做完整調查報告(含台糖失職、食安警訊斷鏈責任、團體訴訟求償進度)及未來如何確保安全無虞的國軍團膳、學生營養午餐」進行專題報告,並備質詢。 (下午2時30分起,若上午議程尚未結束,待結束後接續召開) 一、審查行政院函請審議「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 二、繼續審查委員廖偉翔等18人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十四條及第二十五條條文修正草案」案。 三、繼續審查委員蘇清泉等23人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十二條條文修正草案」案。 四、繼續審查委員蘇清泉等20人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第四條條文修正草案」案。 ......(完整內容,詳見議事日程) 二十、審查委員許宇甄等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十二條條文修正草案」案。 二十一、審查委員郭國文等18人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第七條及第四十八條之一條文修正草案」案。 二十二、審查國民黨黨團擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 二十三、審查委員黃健豪等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 二十四、審查委員廖偉翔等19人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第七條及第四十七條條文修正草案」案。 二十五、審查委員李彥秀等23人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 二十六、審查委員羅智強等17人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 二十七、審查委員盧縣一等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 二十八、審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 二十九、審查委員許宇甄等20人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 三十、審查委員王育敏等25人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 三十一、審查委員徐巧芯等17人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 三十二、審查委員林月琴等24人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 三十三、審查委員林淑芬等21人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 三十四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 三十五、審查委員李坤城等18人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 三十六、審查委員黃秀芳等21人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 三十七、審查委員劉建國等19人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 【逐條討論,不詢答】 【第二十至二十二案,如經復議則不予審查;第一案及第二十三至三十七案,如未經院會交付本會審查或未經各黨團簽署不復議同意)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 副署長 戴淑芬副署長 協情教育署
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 然後國防部後勤參謀次長
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 賀志豪處長
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transcript.whisperx[3].end 15.1
transcript.whisperx[3].text 經濟部 賴次長
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 還有我們台南公司的蔡東霖副總經理
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 我們讓部長 署長休息
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transcript.whisperx[6].text
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 我們請我們
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 國教署副署長戴淑芬
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 台南的副總 我先問一下
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 今天早上講到現在 大家說到累了
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 我問你喔 5月11號你們去
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 你們這
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 採購是在什麼時候
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 招標採購300萬公升
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 招標是4月份的時候
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 4月份 好
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 那來投標的 剛剛經濟部次長說有高競來投標
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 有嗎
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 選擇性招標的廠商
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 我們是用選擇性招標
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 用建立合格廠商名單
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 我們平常就有建立啦
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 合格廠商名單
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transcript.whisperx[24].text 那招標的時候 我們會通知這些廠商
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 他們來投標 那總共來投標的有4家
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 4家 是
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transcript.whisperx[27].text 那胡茂得標嘛 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 那得標之後 他又交給中聯去給他代工出貨
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transcript.whisperx[30].text 可以這樣嗎
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transcript.whisperx[31].text 那招標是說 提供4家公司來招標的
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transcript.whisperx[32].text 有中聯嗎
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transcript.whisperx[33].text 沒有
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transcript.whisperx[34].text 那另外第二級的
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transcript.whisperx[35].text 胡茂 泰山 這些來招標
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 因為泰山 胡茂他們都沒有壓黃豆的設備
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 對嘛 我現在問題第一個在這裡就是說
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transcript.whisperx[38].text 這4家公司
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 自己有壓榨出脫交原有的R了
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transcript.whisperx[40].text 阿 十部長說的第一級的
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transcript.whisperx[42].text 那他們招標完 全部都是委託中聯代工出貨
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transcript.whisperx[43].text 是不是這個意思
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transcript.whisperx[45].text 那所以你今天招標是招標期末的嘛
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transcript.whisperx[46].text 還有國外廠商
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transcript.whisperx[47].text 我們國外招標也有包括國外的廠商
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transcript.whisperx[48].text 國外的出油
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transcript.whisperx[49].text 如果說他得標的話也可以來交貨
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transcript.whisperx[50].text 那他也是委託中聯出貨
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transcript.whisperx[51].text 沒有沒有沒有
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transcript.whisperx[52].text 那個是國外
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transcript.whisperx[53].text 他從國外用出交的那個黃豆油來交貨
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transcript.whisperx[54].text 是沒有錯
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transcript.whisperx[55].text 有發生過這樣嗎
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transcript.whisperx[56].text 你現在回答要小心喔
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transcript.whisperx[57].text 你不要亂講喔
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transcript.whisperx[58].text 有有有
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transcript.whisperx[59].text 有曾經發生過
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transcript.whisperx[61].text 你們拿這些脫交的黃豆原油
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transcript.whisperx[62].text 回去到你們台糖
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transcript.whisperx[63].text 你們的工廠在哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[64].text 你們有能力分解 精化 除臭等等
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transcript.whisperx[68].text 小港
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transcript.whisperx[72].text 一個廠就是那個壓榨黃豆的
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transcript.whisperx[73].text 那個叫
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transcript.whisperx[74].text 那個是我們有一個就是
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transcript.whisperx[76].text 所以你們也有能力把黃豆壓榨
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transcript.whisperx[77].text 我們本來就是這樣做啊
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transcript.whisperx[81].text 我查起來是你們買的油
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transcript.whisperx[83].text 你都會給它費多少錢嘛
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transcript.whisperx[84].text 這台中聯他們這台氣壓
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transcript.whisperx[85].text 巴西進來是一種散裝破輪
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transcript.whisperx[88].text 所以會濕濕黏黏的
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transcript.whisperx[94].text 這些油幾乎就出來了
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transcript.whisperx[96].text 弄到密密麻麻
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transcript.whisperx[97].text 到了7月份
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transcript.whisperx[98].text 他叫食藥署 叫食部長
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transcript.whisperx[99].text 叫署長去拿這個
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transcript.whisperx[100].text 拿這個鍋
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transcript.whisperx[102].text 全部亂搞一通
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transcript.whisperx[103].text 後面叫
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transcript.whisperx[104].text 部長 食部長可憐
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transcript.whisperx[105].text 我唱了才知道
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transcript.whisperx[106].text 弄到密密麻麻
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transcript.whisperx[107].text 我覺得台台長
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transcript.whisperx[108].text 我覺得對你們很失望
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transcript.whisperx[109].text 我們從小都在那個甘蔗紅大
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transcript.whisperx[110].text 都在那裡捏尿氣
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transcript.whisperx[111].text 在那裡頭捏甘蔗
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transcript.whisperx[113].text 吃你們的建樹堂
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transcript.whisperx[114].text 我家的建樹堂
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transcript.whisperx[117].text 大家都很有信心
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transcript.whisperx[121].text 從美國進口
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transcript.whisperx[126].text 它的產能不夠
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transcript.whisperx[127].text 台糖的生理太好
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transcript.whisperx[128].text 大家對它有信心
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transcript.whisperx[130].text 我們才會對外去採購出油
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transcript.whisperx[131].text 所以你現在採購300公升的
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transcript.whisperx[134].text 遠遠高過這個
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transcript.whisperx[136].text 需要的出油大概需要
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transcript.whisperx[137].text 一萬多噸到兩萬噸
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transcript.whisperx[138].text 一萬
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transcript.whisperx[139].text 將近兩萬噸
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transcript.whisperx[140].text 就我們出油的需求量
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transcript.whisperx[141].text 兩萬多噸是多少
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transcript.whisperx[142].text 現在是300公升
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transcript.whisperx[145].text 我們這次招標是3000公噸
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transcript.whisperx[148].text 我看這個柏頂也不知道
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transcript.whisperx[149].text 柏頂也不知道
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transcript.whisperx[150].text 它一年要多少
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transcript.whisperx[151].text 你如果知道我就不相信了
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transcript.whisperx[152].text 你隨便亂說
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transcript.whisperx[154].text 那你
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transcript.whisperx[155].text 5月15號去採樣
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transcript.whisperx[156].text 發現它是14.7ppp
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transcript.whisperx[157].text 那一些油現在還在中聯的油槽裡面嗎
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transcript.whisperx[158].text 這個我們就不曉得
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transcript.whisperx[160].text 有遷風
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transcript.whisperx[161].text 把它封起來
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transcript.whisperx[162].text 封起來
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transcript.whisperx[163].text 我們等於說這一桶油
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transcript.whisperx[165].text 沒有接收
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transcript.whisperx[166].text 還是留在那個地方
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transcript.whisperx[167].text 那至於說後續它怎麼處理
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transcript.whisperx[169].text 然後你5月21號第一批交貨
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transcript.whisperx[174].text 沒有啦
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transcript.whisperx[177].text 1000噸啦
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transcript.whisperx[178].text 然後第二批是6月18號也是1000噸
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transcript.whisperx[179].text 這個也是中聯交
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transcript.whisperx[181].text 那個我們驗它是合格的
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transcript.whisperx[182].text 它是合乎我們的招標的
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transcript.whisperx[183].text 你們自己本身有能力去做檢驗
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transcript.whisperx[187].text 那你沒有能力驗這個ppp
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transcript.whisperx[188].text 我們也可以啦
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transcript.whisperx[189].text 也可以驗啦
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transcript.whisperx[190].text 只是說經過第三方的話
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transcript.whisperx[191].text 它是比較公正
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transcript.whisperx[193].text 你從脫交原有一直往下一支經驗
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transcript.whisperx[194].text 像我們食部長講的
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transcript.whisperx[195].text 還脫交脫錯算
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transcript.whisperx[196].text 拆到一天到晚都拆出來
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transcript.whisperx[197].text 那做拆之後要去給他吃
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transcript.whisperx[198].text 你的驗的data
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transcript.whisperx[200].text 還是委託第三方驗
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transcript.whisperx[201].text 都是委託第三方公正單位在驗
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transcript.whisperx[202].text 都是委託第三方
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transcript.whisperx[203].text 對一定要驗到合格為止
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transcript.whisperx[206].text 我們對台檔是
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transcript.whisperx[207].text 應該是最後一個信任
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transcript.whisperx[211].text 結果你出事了就死了
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transcript.whisperx[212].text 不會啦
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transcript.whisperx[213].text 所以這個交給保證的
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transcript.whisperx[214].text 國防部這個阿兵哥最可憐
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transcript.whisperx[215].text 這個孩子最可憐
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transcript.whisperx[216].text 剛才就吃不死就很爽這樣
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transcript.whisperx[217].text 會不會這樣
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transcript.whisperx[218].text 不會啦
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transcript.whisperx[219].text 我們為什麼要進美國的黃豆
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transcript.whisperx[220].text 就是它的品質比較好
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transcript.whisperx[222].text 你跟我說一下
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transcript.whisperx[224].text 水分含量都比較好
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transcript.whisperx[225].text 它都基改
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transcript.whisperx[226].text 都是基因改造的
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transcript.whisperx[227].text 都是基改
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transcript.whisperx[228].text 好看起來他們有這樣80%都是基改
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transcript.whisperx[229].text 是是是
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transcript.whisperx[231].text 好 你們死了
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transcript.whisperx[232].text 吃這個就完了
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transcript.whisperx[234].text 我覺得對教育部跟國防部
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transcript.whisperx[235].text 這些副實裝是
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transcript.whisperx[236].text 我做海流了
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transcript.whisperx[238].text 我不知道
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transcript.whisperx[239].text 剛才吃吃吃
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transcript.whisperx[240].text 沒死到現在沒死
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transcript.whisperx[242].text 吃這隻死也不知道
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transcript.whisperx[244].text 我們一直修
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transcript.whisperx[263].text 福茂這第二批
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transcript.whisperx[271].text 這些工程都委託的
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transcript.whisperx[272].text 做假的
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transcript.whisperx[273].text 都OEM的
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transcript.whisperx[274].text 這些工程都掛名的
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transcript.whisperx[279].text 做成品他也做得出來
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transcript.whisperx[289].text 差不多差不多
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transcript.whisperx[290].text 差不多這個行
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transcript.whisperx[291].text 怕死人
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transcript.whisperx[292].text 我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[293].text 中聯以為大豆沙拉油
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transcript.whisperx[295].text 要台鐙7%
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transcript.whisperx[296].text 其他九十三%都是民間
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transcript.whisperx[297].text 剛才你說的公司也有先戰
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transcript.whisperx[298].text 五京都都是
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transcript.whisperx[299].text 那個比較實在的數字我不知道
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transcript.whisperx[300].text 但是比較實在就是說
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transcript.whisperx[302].text 五京現在聽起來就是
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transcript.whisperx[303].text 他那7%都是第三方驗證
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transcript.whisperx[304].text 都是合格的
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transcript.whisperx[306].text 結果是中聯做出來
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transcript.whisperx[307].text 他跟我連連做都不做
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transcript.whisperx[308].text 就吃了啦
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transcript.whisperx[309].text 這個中聯一天出事
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transcript.whisperx[311].text 叫食藥署說他太太
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transcript.whisperx[312].text 都沒有要給他足皮檢查
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transcript.whisperx[314].text 要去取消
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transcript.whisperx[315].text 我覺得我衛福部是有可能
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transcript.whisperx[316].text 所以現在知道天公會在立案調查
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transcript.whisperx[317].text 我等一下你經濟部這樣要怎麼改善
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transcript.whisperx[318].text 聚焦聚焦聚焦
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transcript.whisperx[319].text 你台鐙這裡要怎麼改善
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transcript.whisperx[320].text 要對人家一家的食品有交代
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transcript.whisperx[321].text 這些孩子都吃你台鐙的油
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transcript.whisperx[322].text 吃這個出問題
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transcript.whisperx[328].text 第二就是說
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transcript.whisperx[335].text 這都會看
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transcript.whisperx[340].text 甚至說包括
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transcript.whisperx[353].text 現在我們民間
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transcript.whisperx[371].text 你自己拿油
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transcript.whisperx[384].text 感謝威丸支持台鐙
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transcript.whisperx[390].text 這樣吃的孩子
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