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蘇清泉 @ 第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第22次全體委員會議

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00:00:00,000 00:00:04,400 副署長 戴淑芬副署長 協情教育署
00:00:06,400 00:00:09,100 然後國防部後勤參謀次長
00:00:10,100 00:00:11,600 賀志豪處長
00:00:12,600 00:00:15,100 經濟部 賴次長
00:00:16,400 00:00:20,100 還有我們台南公司的蔡東霖副總經理
00:00:21,800 00:00:23,900 我們讓部長 署長休息
00:00:24,000 00:00:25,000
00:00:26,000 00:00:27,700 我們請我們
00:00:28,200 00:00:30,500 國教署副署長戴淑芬
00:00:31,000 00:00:33,000 台南的副總 我先問一下
00:00:35,500 00:00:38,500 今天早上講到現在 大家說到累了
00:00:39,000 00:00:42,300 我問你喔 5月11號你們去
00:00:42,800 00:00:43,800 你們這
00:00:44,300 00:00:45,900 採購是在什麼時候
00:00:45,900 00:00:47,900 招標採購300萬公升
00:00:47,900 00:00:49,900 招標是4月份的時候
00:00:49,900 00:00:51,400 4月份 好
00:00:51,400 00:00:56,400 那來投標的 剛剛經濟部次長說有高競來投標
00:00:56,400 00:00:57,400 有嗎
00:00:57,400 00:00:58,400 選擇性招標的廠商
00:00:59,400 00:01:01,400 我們是用選擇性招標
00:01:01,400 00:01:04,400 用建立合格廠商名單
00:01:04,400 00:01:05,400 我們平常就有建立啦
00:01:05,400 00:01:07,400 合格廠商名單
00:01:07,400 00:01:09,400 那招標的時候 我們會通知這些廠商
00:01:09,400 00:01:12,400 他們來投標 那總共來投標的有4家
00:01:12,400 00:01:13,400 4家 是
00:01:13,400 00:01:16,400 那胡茂得標嘛 對不對
00:01:16,400 00:01:17,400
00:01:17,400 00:01:22,400 那得標之後 他又交給中聯去給他代工出貨
00:01:22,400 00:01:24,400 可以這樣嗎
00:01:24,400 00:01:27,400 那招標是說 提供4家公司來招標的
00:01:27,400 00:01:29,400 有中聯嗎
00:01:29,400 00:01:30,400 沒有
00:01:30,400 00:01:32,400 那另外第二級的
00:01:32,400 00:01:35,400 胡茂 泰山 這些來招標
00:01:35,400 00:01:39,400 因為泰山 胡茂他們都沒有壓黃豆的設備
00:01:39,400 00:01:42,400 對嘛 我現在問題第一個在這裡就是說
00:01:42,400 00:01:44,400 這4家公司
00:01:44,400 00:01:49,400 自己有壓榨出脫交原有的R了
00:01:49,400 00:01:52,400 阿 十部長說的第一級的
00:01:52,400 00:01:57,400 那這些公司都沒有這個能力的話
00:01:57,400 00:02:01,400 那他們招標完 全部都是委託中聯代工出貨
00:02:01,400 00:02:02,400 是不是這個意思
00:02:02,400 00:02:03,400
00:02:03,400 00:02:06,400 那所以你今天招標是招標期末的嘛
00:02:06,400 00:02:08,400 還有國外廠商
00:02:08,400 00:02:10,400 我們國外招標也有包括國外的廠商
00:02:10,400 00:02:12,400 國外的出油
00:02:12,400 00:02:15,400 如果說他得標的話也可以來交貨
00:02:15,400 00:02:17,400 那他也是委託中聯出貨
00:02:17,400 00:02:18,400 沒有沒有沒有
00:02:18,400 00:02:19,400 那個是國外
00:02:19,400 00:02:23,400 他從國外用出交的那個黃豆油來交貨
00:02:23,400 00:02:24,400 是沒有錯
00:02:24,400 00:02:26,400 有發生過這樣嗎
00:02:26,400 00:02:27,400 你現在回答要小心喔
00:02:27,400 00:02:28,400 你不要亂講喔
00:02:28,400 00:02:29,400 有有有
00:02:29,400 00:02:31,400 有曾經發生過
00:02:31,400 00:02:34,400 好 那第二個問題
00:02:34,400 00:02:38,400 你們拿這些脫交的黃豆原油
00:02:38,400 00:02:41,400 回去到你們台糖
00:02:41,400 00:02:43,400 你們的工廠在哪裡
00:02:43,400 00:02:48,400 你們有能力分解 精化 除臭等等
00:02:48,400 00:02:49,400 有沒有
00:02:49,400 00:02:50,400
00:02:50,400 00:02:52,400 我們的工廠是在小港
00:02:52,400 00:02:53,400 小港
00:02:53,400 00:02:54,400
00:02:54,400 00:02:56,400 那我們自己的工廠
00:02:56,400 00:02:58,400 他有分兩個廠
00:02:58,400 00:03:01,400 一個廠就是那個壓榨黃豆的
00:03:01,400 00:03:04,400 那個叫
00:03:04,400 00:03:07,400 那個是我們有一個就是
00:03:07,400 00:03:09,400 有一個廠他是做出油的
00:03:09,400 00:03:12,400 所以你們也有能力把黃豆壓榨
00:03:12,400 00:03:14,400 我們本來就是這樣做啊
00:03:14,400 00:03:18,400 我們主要是購買美國的黃豆回來壓榨出油
00:03:18,400 00:03:20,400 然後從出油再把它精列
00:03:20,400 00:03:21,400 另外一個廠
00:03:21,400 00:03:24,400 我查起來是你們買的油
00:03:24,400 00:03:26,400 你買的黃豆跟美國買
00:03:26,400 00:03:28,400 你都會給它費多少錢嘛
00:03:28,400 00:03:31,400 這台中聯他們這台氣壓
00:03:31,400 00:03:34,400 巴西進來是一種散裝破輪
00:03:34,400 00:03:36,400 就被砍的 掀開了
00:03:36,400 00:03:39,400 所以都會濕 中間如果落雨
00:03:39,400 00:03:41,400 所以會濕濕黏黏的
00:03:41,400 00:03:42,400 所以就用
00:03:42,400 00:03:45,400 用茶油滴在烤
00:03:45,400 00:03:47,400 還有燃燒不完全
00:03:47,400 00:03:51,400 那些東西就卡在黃豆的皮上面
00:03:51,400 00:03:52,400 然後壓榨
00:03:52,400 00:03:54,400 這些油幾乎就出來了
00:03:54,400 00:03:56,400 然後這些事情
00:03:56,400 00:03:58,400 弄到密密麻麻
00:03:58,400 00:03:59,400 到了7月份
00:04:00,400 00:04:02,400 他叫食藥署 叫食部長
00:04:02,400 00:04:05,400 叫署長去拿這個
00:04:05,400 00:04:06,400 拿這個鍋
00:04:06,400 00:04:08,400 我是覺得很不道德
00:04:08,400 00:04:09,400 全部亂搞一通
00:04:09,400 00:04:10,400 後面叫
00:04:10,400 00:04:13,400 部長 食部長可憐
00:04:13,400 00:04:15,400 我唱了才知道
00:04:15,400 00:04:17,399 弄到密密麻麻
00:04:17,399 00:04:19,399 我覺得台台長
00:04:19,399 00:04:21,399 我覺得對你們很失望
00:04:21,399 00:04:24,400 我們從小都在那個甘蔗紅大
00:04:24,400 00:04:26,400 都在那裡捏尿氣
00:04:26,400 00:04:30,400 在那裡頭捏甘蔗
00:04:30,400 00:04:33,400 這年代的人都做過
00:04:33,400 00:04:36,400 吃你們的建樹堂
00:04:36,400 00:04:37,400 我家的建樹堂
00:04:37,400 00:04:40,400 雖然因為營養不良
00:04:40,400 00:04:41,400 吃你們的東西
00:04:41,400 00:04:42,400 大家都很有信心
00:04:42,400 00:04:45,400 現在大家這樣會抓狂
00:04:45,400 00:04:47,400 那你們自己有能力
00:04:47,400 00:04:49,400 用黃豆自己有進口
00:04:49,400 00:04:51,400 從美國進口
00:04:51,400 00:04:52,400 就自己搞就好了
00:04:52,400 00:04:53,400 為什麼要
00:04:53,400 00:04:55,400 現在就是有問題的油
00:04:55,400 00:04:58,400 我們的黃豆壓榨廠
00:04:58,400 00:05:01,400 它的產能不夠
00:05:01,400 00:05:03,400 台糖的生理太好
00:05:03,400 00:05:05,400 大家對它有信心
00:05:05,400 00:05:06,400 不足的部分
00:05:06,400 00:05:08,400 我們才會對外去採購出油
00:05:08,400 00:05:11,400 所以你現在採購300公升的
00:05:11,400 00:05:13,400 出膠原油
00:05:13,400 00:05:15,400 那你們一年的需要量
00:05:15,400 00:05:17,400 遠遠高過這個
00:05:17,400 00:05:21,400 是 我們一年大概需要
00:05:21,400 00:05:24,400 需要的出油大概需要
00:05:24,400 00:05:26,400 一萬多噸到兩萬噸
00:05:26,400 00:05:28,400 一萬
00:05:28,400 00:05:30,400 將近兩萬噸
00:05:30,400 00:05:34,400 就我們出油的需求量
00:05:34,400 00:05:36,400 兩萬多噸是多少
00:05:36,400 00:05:38,400 現在是300公升
00:05:38,400 00:05:40,400 300萬公升
00:05:40,400 00:05:42,400 300萬公升
00:05:42,400 00:05:46,400 我們這次招標是3000公噸
00:05:46,400 00:05:48,400 3000公噸
00:05:48,400 00:05:50,400 那一年的需要量是兩萬公噸
00:05:50,400 00:05:52,400 我看這個柏頂也不知道
00:05:52,400 00:05:53,400 柏頂也不知道
00:05:53,400 00:05:54,400 它一年要多少
00:05:54,400 00:05:56,400 你如果知道我就不相信了
00:05:56,400 00:05:58,400 你隨便亂說
00:05:58,400 00:05:59,400
00:05:59,400 00:06:01,400 那你
00:06:01,400 00:06:03,400 5月15號去採樣
00:06:03,400 00:06:07,400 發現它是14.7ppp
00:06:07,400 00:06:12,400 那一些油現在還在中聯的油槽裡面嗎
00:06:12,400 00:06:15,400 這個我們就不曉得
00:06:15,400 00:06:16,400 我們當初驗收的時候
00:06:16,400 00:06:18,400 有遷風
00:06:18,400 00:06:20,400 把它封起來
00:06:20,400 00:06:21,400 封起來
00:06:21,400 00:06:25,400 我們等於說這一桶油
00:06:25,400 00:06:28,400 我們沒有允收
00:06:28,400 00:06:30,400 沒有接收
00:06:30,400 00:06:31,400 還是留在那個地方
00:06:31,400 00:06:33,400 那至於說後續它怎麼處理
00:06:33,400 00:06:35,400 我們就不是很清楚
00:06:35,400 00:06:40,400 然後你5月21號第一批交貨
00:06:40,400 00:06:42,400 100萬公升
00:06:42,400 00:06:44,400 也是中聯交的
00:06:44,400 00:06:47,400 1100多公升
00:06:48,400 00:06:50,400 100萬公升
00:06:50,400 00:06:52,400 沒有啦
00:06:52,400 00:06:55,400 1000公升左右
00:06:55,400 00:06:59,400 1000噸
00:06:59,400 00:07:01,400 1000噸啦
00:07:01,400 00:07:05,400 然後第二批是6月18號也是1000噸
00:07:05,400 00:07:07,400 這個也是中聯交
00:07:07,400 00:07:08,400
00:07:08,400 00:07:11,400 那個我們驗它是合格的
00:07:11,400 00:07:15,400 它是合乎我們的招標的
00:07:15,400 00:07:20,400 你們自己本身有能力去做檢驗
00:07:20,400 00:07:22,400 還是要委託第三方
00:07:22,400 00:07:24,400 你自己台檔有沒有能力
00:07:24,400 00:07:28,400 我們目前沒有實驗室
00:07:28,400 00:07:31,400 那你沒有能力驗這個ppp
00:07:31,400 00:07:32,400 我們也可以啦
00:07:32,400 00:07:33,400 也可以驗啦
00:07:33,400 00:07:35,400 只是說經過第三方的話
00:07:35,400 00:07:36,400 它是比較公正
00:07:36,400 00:07:38,400 那你們自己在製造過程
00:07:38,400 00:07:41,400 你從脫交原有一直往下一支經驗
00:07:41,400 00:07:42,400 像我們食部長講的
00:07:42,400 00:07:44,400 還脫交脫錯算
00:07:44,400 00:07:47,400 拆到一天到晚都拆出來
00:07:47,400 00:07:50,400 那做拆之後要去給他吃
00:07:50,400 00:07:53,400 你的驗的data
00:07:53,400 00:07:54,400 也是你們自己驗
00:07:54,400 00:07:55,400 還是委託第三方驗
00:07:55,400 00:07:59,400 都是委託第三方公正單位在驗
00:07:59,400 00:08:00,400 都是委託第三方
00:08:00,400 00:08:03,400 對一定要驗到合格為止
00:08:03,400 00:08:04,400
00:08:04,400 00:08:05,400 那我現在要講說
00:08:05,400 00:08:07,400 我們對台檔是
00:08:07,400 00:08:10,400 應該是最後一個信任
00:08:10,400 00:08:14,400 其他的可能比較沒什麼信心
00:08:14,400 00:08:15,400 所以委員不能放心
00:08:15,400 00:08:18,400 對台檔大家是這樣放心
00:08:18,400 00:08:20,400 結果你出事了就死了
00:08:20,400 00:08:21,400 不會啦
00:08:21,400 00:08:22,400 所以這個交給保證的
00:08:22,400 00:08:25,400 國防部這個阿兵哥最可憐
00:08:25,400 00:08:26,400 這個孩子最可憐
00:08:26,400 00:08:29,400 剛才就吃不死就很爽這樣
00:08:29,400 00:08:30,400 會不會這樣
00:08:30,400 00:08:31,400 不會啦
00:08:31,400 00:08:33,400 我們為什麼要進美國的黃豆
00:08:33,400 00:08:35,400 就是它的品質比較好
00:08:35,400 00:08:38,400 它的品質跟巴西的黃豆是差在哪裡
00:08:38,400 00:08:40,400 你跟我說一下
00:08:40,400 00:08:44,400 它的蛋白質含量
00:08:44,400 00:08:46,400 水分含量都比較好
00:08:46,400 00:08:48,400 它都基改
00:08:48,400 00:08:50,400 都是基因改造的
00:08:50,400 00:08:51,400 都是基改
00:08:51,400 00:08:54,400 好看起來他們有這樣80%都是基改
00:08:54,400 00:08:55,400 是是是
00:08:55,400 00:08:57,400 所以吃基改會死命
00:08:57,400 00:09:01,400 好 你們死了
00:09:01,400 00:09:04,400 吃這個就完了
00:09:04,400 00:09:05,400 沒有證據
00:09:05,400 00:09:08,400 我覺得對教育部跟國防部
00:09:08,400 00:09:09,400 這些副實裝是
00:09:09,400 00:09:10,400 我做海流了
00:09:10,400 00:09:12,400 我現在想想以前也吃什麼東西
00:09:12,400 00:09:13,400 我不知道
00:09:13,400 00:09:14,400 剛才吃吃吃
00:09:14,400 00:09:16,400 沒死到現在沒死
00:09:16,400 00:09:19,400 你好像也做這支土陸軍的
00:09:19,400 00:09:21,400 吃這隻死也不知道
00:09:21,400 00:09:24,400 現在我們對於食安的問題
00:09:24,400 00:09:25,400 我們一直修
00:09:25,400 00:09:26,400 今天要修嗎
00:09:26,400 00:09:27,400 一直修
00:09:27,400 00:09:30,400 修一修不遵守有什麼屁用
00:09:30,400 00:09:32,400 不遵守這等於零
00:09:32,400 00:09:34,400 你修了再嚴
00:09:34,400 00:09:35,400 不遵守
00:09:35,400 00:09:36,400 像這個中聯
00:09:36,400 00:09:39,400 他測出來他有他也不敢講
00:09:39,400 00:09:41,400 你現在一切部長說
00:09:41,400 00:09:43,400 我們食部長說
00:09:43,400 00:09:45,400 他也是出交原油
00:09:45,400 00:09:50,400 沒有data
00:09:50,400 00:09:53,400 他的問題是出在於說
00:09:53,400 00:09:54,400 他出交原油
00:09:54,400 00:09:57,400 他把它精煉成食用油
00:09:57,400 00:09:58,400 還是超標
00:09:58,400 00:10:00,400 那個他沒有報
00:10:00,400 00:10:01,400 沒有他交給福茂
00:10:01,400 00:10:02,400 福茂這第二批
00:10:02,400 00:10:04,400 他那個時候是出局
00:10:04,400 00:10:05,400 不是
00:10:05,400 00:10:07,400 是食用油
00:10:07,400 00:10:08,400 他交的是食用油
00:10:08,400 00:10:10,400 所以中聯本身可以
00:10:10,400 00:10:12,400 一直做到食用油
00:10:12,400 00:10:13,400 沒有錯
00:10:13,400 00:10:15,400 這些工程都委託的
00:10:15,400 00:10:16,400 做假的
00:10:16,400 00:10:18,400 都OEM的
00:10:18,400 00:10:20,400 這些工程都掛名的
00:10:20,400 00:10:22,400 你把你朋友
00:10:22,400 00:10:23,400 他也沒辦法高
00:10:23,400 00:10:24,400 叫中聯高
00:10:24,400 00:10:26,400 現在你說的朋友
00:10:26,400 00:10:28,400 做成品他也做得出來
00:10:28,400 00:10:30,400 做成品做出來
00:10:30,400 00:10:31,400 做出來要
00:10:31,400 00:10:33,400 他做出來問題
00:10:33,400 00:10:34,400 他又不敢報
00:10:34,400 00:10:37,400 這樣事情嚴重
00:10:37,400 00:10:38,400 部長
00:10:38,400 00:10:39,400 市長
00:10:39,400 00:10:40,400 賴市長
00:10:40,400 00:10:41,400 你們這個公司管理
00:10:41,400 00:10:42,400 差不多差不多
00:10:42,400 00:10:44,400 差不多這個行
00:10:44,400 00:10:45,400 怕死人
00:10:45,400 00:10:46,400 我跟委員報告
00:10:46,400 00:10:49,400 中聯以為大豆沙拉油
00:10:49,400 00:10:51,400 市占率只有7%
00:10:51,400 00:10:54,400 要台鐙7%
00:10:54,400 00:10:57,400 其他九十三%都是民間
00:10:57,400 00:10:59,400 剛才你說的公司也有先戰
00:10:59,400 00:11:01,400 五京都都是
00:11:01,400 00:11:03,400 那個比較實在的數字我不知道
00:11:03,400 00:11:05,400 但是比較實在就是說
00:11:05,400 00:11:06,400 中央先戰
00:11:06,400 00:11:08,400 五京現在聽起來就是
00:11:08,400 00:11:10,400 他那7%都是第三方驗證
00:11:10,400 00:11:11,400 都是合格的
00:11:11,400 00:11:13,400 他掛服貿的品牌
00:11:13,400 00:11:15,400 結果是中聯做出來
00:11:15,400 00:11:17,400 他跟我連連做都不做
00:11:17,400 00:11:18,400 就吃了啦
00:11:18,400 00:11:20,400 這個中聯一天出事
00:11:20,400 00:11:22,400 自己有什麼不報
00:11:22,400 00:11:24,400 叫食藥署說他太太
00:11:24,400 00:11:25,400 都沒有要給他足皮檢查
00:11:25,400 00:11:27,400 沒有去部隊會上班
00:11:27,400 00:11:28,400 要去取消
00:11:28,400 00:11:30,400 我覺得我衛福部是有可能
00:11:30,400 00:11:33,400 所以現在知道天公會在立案調查
00:11:34,400 00:11:36,400 我等一下你經濟部這樣要怎麼改善
00:11:37,400 00:11:39,400 聚焦聚焦聚焦
00:11:40,400 00:11:42,400 你台鐙這裡要怎麼改善
00:11:42,400 00:11:44,400 要對人家一家的食品有交代
00:11:44,400 00:11:46,400 這些孩子都吃你台鐙的油
00:11:46,400 00:11:48,400 吃這個出問題
00:11:49,400 00:11:51,400 第一台鐙公司
00:11:51,400 00:11:54,400 平常我叫台鐙公司
00:11:54,400 00:11:56,400 建立自己的
00:11:56,400 00:11:58,400 包括自主檢驗的標準
00:11:58,400 00:12:00,400 包括流程自身的標準
00:12:00,400 00:12:02,400 第二就是說
00:12:02,400 00:12:05,400 經濟部會定期去查核
00:12:05,400 00:12:08,400 審計會同政風單位
00:12:08,400 00:12:10,400 去看他的採購
00:12:10,400 00:12:12,400 有照採購法的規定
00:12:13,400 00:12:15,400 採購是不是合理
00:12:15,400 00:12:17,400 包括進出貨單
00:12:17,400 00:12:19,400 這都會看
00:12:19,400 00:12:20,400 第三就是說
00:12:20,400 00:12:22,400 在年度的時候
00:12:22,400 00:12:23,400 結束的時候
00:12:23,400 00:12:25,400 也會有相關單位
00:12:25,400 00:12:27,400 甚至說包括
00:12:27,400 00:12:29,400 經濟部議會的單位
00:12:29,400 00:12:31,400 會去查國營事業
00:12:31,400 00:12:33,400 不然在一個位置
00:12:33,400 00:12:35,400 台鐙出產的產品
00:12:35,400 00:12:37,400 它的原料一定是要
00:12:37,400 00:12:39,400 檢驗合格交代
00:12:39,400 00:12:41,400 台鐙的商業
00:12:41,400 00:12:43,400 另外它出產的產品
00:12:43,400 00:12:45,400 也要特別是
00:12:45,400 00:12:47,400 食品的部分
00:12:47,400 00:12:49,400 它要通過食安法的規定
00:12:49,400 00:12:50,400 我告訴你
00:12:50,400 00:12:52,400 現在我們民間
00:12:52,400 00:12:54,400 我們常常走行程
00:12:54,400 00:12:56,400 民間對台鐙
00:12:56,400 00:12:58,400 是真的reliable company
00:12:58,400 00:13:00,400 這幾十年來
00:13:00,400 00:13:01,400 很多人
00:13:01,400 00:13:02,400 在這裡的人
00:13:02,400 00:13:04,400 很多跟台鐙有關係
00:13:04,400 00:13:06,400 土地、食物這樣站
00:13:06,400 00:13:08,400 所以對台鐙是有絕對的信心
00:13:08,400 00:13:10,400 其他人我沒有信心
00:13:10,400 00:13:11,400 對台鐙有信心
00:13:11,400 00:13:13,400 所以我現在具體建議
00:13:13,400 00:13:15,400 結束了
00:13:15,400 00:13:16,400 具體建議就是說
00:13:16,400 00:13:18,400 台鐙自己在美國買房子
00:13:18,400 00:13:19,400 用費貴租
00:13:19,400 00:13:21,400 拼一件保證
00:13:21,400 00:13:22,400 你自己拿油
00:13:22,400 00:13:23,400 自己拿自己做
00:13:23,400 00:13:24,400 你就擴廠
00:13:24,400 00:13:26,400 自己擴自己的廠
00:13:26,400 00:13:27,400 台鐙那麼好
00:13:27,400 00:13:29,400 專大人最大的地主
00:13:29,400 00:13:31,400 現在一年到十五年
00:13:31,400 00:13:32,400 收到這幾十萬人
00:13:32,400 00:13:33,400 對不對
00:13:33,400 00:13:34,400 五萬多公斤的土地
00:13:35,400 00:13:37,400 市長你了解嗎
00:13:37,400 00:13:38,400 自己在做
00:13:38,400 00:13:41,400 你萬一敢買中間的油品
00:13:41,400 00:13:43,400 感謝威丸支持台鐙
00:13:43,400 00:13:44,400 絕對支持你
00:13:44,400 00:13:46,400 自己在客戶
00:13:46,400 00:13:47,400 自己在賣
00:13:47,400 00:13:48,400 交給副食品
00:13:48,400 00:13:50,400 給孩子吃
00:13:50,400 00:13:51,400 這樣吃的孩子
00:13:51,400 00:13:53,400 你怎麼跟道道破鐘
00:13:53,400 00:13:55,400 不然你去市場買東西
00:13:55,400 00:13:57,400 國外要交你二級
00:13:57,400 00:13:59,400 感謝威丸對台鐙
00:13:59,400 00:14:01,400 有來賺定的信心
00:14:01,400 00:14:03,400 現在這個年代
00:14:03,400 00:14:04,400 也是講任性
00:14:04,400 00:14:06,400 台鐙你是最老牌的
00:14:06,400 00:14:08,400 我們對你有絕對的信心
00:14:08,400 00:14:11,400 你不做到我們被非編罵
00:14:11,400 00:14:13,400 真的是對不起國人
00:14:13,400 00:14:15,400 市長我這樣強具體建議
00:14:15,400 00:14:17,400 我總執行要再問你
00:14:17,400 00:14:18,400 感謝威丸
00:14:18,400 00:14:19,400 謝謝