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蘇清泉 @ 第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第22次全體委員會議
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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:04,400 | 副署長 戴淑芬副署長 協情教育署 |
| 00:00:06,400 | 00:00:09,100 | 然後國防部後勤參謀次長 |
| 00:00:10,100 | 00:00:11,600 | 賀志豪處長 |
| 00:00:12,600 | 00:00:15,100 | 經濟部 賴次長 |
| 00:00:16,400 | 00:00:20,100 | 還有我們台南公司的蔡東霖副總經理 |
| 00:00:21,800 | 00:00:23,900 | 我們讓部長 署長休息 |
| 00:00:24,000 | 00:00:25,000 | 好 |
| 00:00:26,000 | 00:00:27,700 | 我們請我們 |
| 00:00:28,200 | 00:00:30,500 | 國教署副署長戴淑芬 |
| 00:00:31,000 | 00:00:33,000 | 台南的副總 我先問一下 |
| 00:00:35,500 | 00:00:38,500 | 今天早上講到現在 大家說到累了 |
| 00:00:39,000 | 00:00:42,300 | 我問你喔 5月11號你們去 |
| 00:00:42,800 | 00:00:43,800 | 你們這 |
| 00:00:44,300 | 00:00:45,900 | 採購是在什麼時候 |
| 00:00:45,900 | 00:00:47,900 | 招標採購300萬公升 |
| 00:00:47,900 | 00:00:49,900 | 招標是4月份的時候 |
| 00:00:49,900 | 00:00:51,400 | 4月份 好 |
| 00:00:51,400 | 00:00:56,400 | 那來投標的 剛剛經濟部次長說有高競來投標 |
| 00:00:56,400 | 00:00:57,400 | 有嗎 |
| 00:00:57,400 | 00:00:58,400 | 選擇性招標的廠商 |
| 00:00:59,400 | 00:01:01,400 | 我們是用選擇性招標 |
| 00:01:01,400 | 00:01:04,400 | 用建立合格廠商名單 |
| 00:01:04,400 | 00:01:05,400 | 我們平常就有建立啦 |
| 00:01:05,400 | 00:01:07,400 | 合格廠商名單 |
| 00:01:07,400 | 00:01:09,400 | 那招標的時候 我們會通知這些廠商 |
| 00:01:09,400 | 00:01:12,400 | 他們來投標 那總共來投標的有4家 |
| 00:01:12,400 | 00:01:13,400 | 4家 是 |
| 00:01:13,400 | 00:01:16,400 | 那胡茂得標嘛 對不對 |
| 00:01:16,400 | 00:01:17,400 | 對 |
| 00:01:17,400 | 00:01:22,400 | 那得標之後 他又交給中聯去給他代工出貨 |
| 00:01:22,400 | 00:01:24,400 | 可以這樣嗎 |
| 00:01:24,400 | 00:01:27,400 | 那招標是說 提供4家公司來招標的 |
| 00:01:27,400 | 00:01:29,400 | 有中聯嗎 |
| 00:01:29,400 | 00:01:30,400 | 沒有 |
| 00:01:30,400 | 00:01:32,400 | 那另外第二級的 |
| 00:01:32,400 | 00:01:35,400 | 胡茂 泰山 這些來招標 |
| 00:01:35,400 | 00:01:39,400 | 因為泰山 胡茂他們都沒有壓黃豆的設備 |
| 00:01:39,400 | 00:01:42,400 | 對嘛 我現在問題第一個在這裡就是說 |
| 00:01:42,400 | 00:01:44,400 | 這4家公司 |
| 00:01:44,400 | 00:01:49,400 | 自己有壓榨出脫交原有的R了 |
| 00:01:49,400 | 00:01:52,400 | 阿 十部長說的第一級的 |
| 00:01:52,400 | 00:01:57,400 | 那這些公司都沒有這個能力的話 |
| 00:01:57,400 | 00:02:01,400 | 那他們招標完 全部都是委託中聯代工出貨 |
| 00:02:01,400 | 00:02:02,400 | 是不是這個意思 |
| 00:02:02,400 | 00:02:03,400 | 是 |
| 00:02:03,400 | 00:02:06,400 | 那所以你今天招標是招標期末的嘛 |
| 00:02:06,400 | 00:02:08,400 | 還有國外廠商 |
| 00:02:08,400 | 00:02:10,400 | 我們國外招標也有包括國外的廠商 |
| 00:02:10,400 | 00:02:12,400 | 國外的出油 |
| 00:02:12,400 | 00:02:15,400 | 如果說他得標的話也可以來交貨 |
| 00:02:15,400 | 00:02:17,400 | 那他也是委託中聯出貨 |
| 00:02:17,400 | 00:02:18,400 | 沒有沒有沒有 |
| 00:02:18,400 | 00:02:19,400 | 那個是國外 |
| 00:02:19,400 | 00:02:23,400 | 他從國外用出交的那個黃豆油來交貨 |
| 00:02:23,400 | 00:02:24,400 | 是沒有錯 |
| 00:02:24,400 | 00:02:26,400 | 有發生過這樣嗎 |
| 00:02:26,400 | 00:02:27,400 | 你現在回答要小心喔 |
| 00:02:27,400 | 00:02:28,400 | 你不要亂講喔 |
| 00:02:28,400 | 00:02:29,400 | 有有有 |
| 00:02:29,400 | 00:02:31,400 | 有曾經發生過 |
| 00:02:31,400 | 00:02:34,400 | 好 那第二個問題 |
| 00:02:34,400 | 00:02:38,400 | 你們拿這些脫交的黃豆原油 |
| 00:02:38,400 | 00:02:41,400 | 回去到你們台糖 |
| 00:02:41,400 | 00:02:43,400 | 你們的工廠在哪裡 |
| 00:02:43,400 | 00:02:48,400 | 你們有能力分解 精化 除臭等等 |
| 00:02:48,400 | 00:02:49,400 | 有沒有 |
| 00:02:49,400 | 00:02:50,400 | 有 |
| 00:02:50,400 | 00:02:52,400 | 我們的工廠是在小港 |
| 00:02:52,400 | 00:02:53,400 | 小港 |
| 00:02:53,400 | 00:02:54,400 | 是 |
| 00:02:54,400 | 00:02:56,400 | 那我們自己的工廠 |
| 00:02:56,400 | 00:02:58,400 | 他有分兩個廠 |
| 00:02:58,400 | 00:03:01,400 | 一個廠就是那個壓榨黃豆的 |
| 00:03:01,400 | 00:03:04,400 | 那個叫 |
| 00:03:04,400 | 00:03:07,400 | 那個是我們有一個就是 |
| 00:03:07,400 | 00:03:09,400 | 有一個廠他是做出油的 |
| 00:03:09,400 | 00:03:12,400 | 所以你們也有能力把黃豆壓榨 |
| 00:03:12,400 | 00:03:14,400 | 我們本來就是這樣做啊 |
| 00:03:14,400 | 00:03:18,400 | 我們主要是購買美國的黃豆回來壓榨出油 |
| 00:03:18,400 | 00:03:20,400 | 然後從出油再把它精列 |
| 00:03:20,400 | 00:03:21,400 | 另外一個廠 |
| 00:03:21,400 | 00:03:24,400 | 我查起來是你們買的油 |
| 00:03:24,400 | 00:03:26,400 | 你買的黃豆跟美國買 |
| 00:03:26,400 | 00:03:28,400 | 你都會給它費多少錢嘛 |
| 00:03:28,400 | 00:03:31,400 | 這台中聯他們這台氣壓 |
| 00:03:31,400 | 00:03:34,400 | 巴西進來是一種散裝破輪 |
| 00:03:34,400 | 00:03:36,400 | 就被砍的 掀開了 |
| 00:03:36,400 | 00:03:39,400 | 所以都會濕 中間如果落雨 |
| 00:03:39,400 | 00:03:41,400 | 所以會濕濕黏黏的 |
| 00:03:41,400 | 00:03:42,400 | 所以就用 |
| 00:03:42,400 | 00:03:45,400 | 用茶油滴在烤 |
| 00:03:45,400 | 00:03:47,400 | 還有燃燒不完全 |
| 00:03:47,400 | 00:03:51,400 | 那些東西就卡在黃豆的皮上面 |
| 00:03:51,400 | 00:03:52,400 | 然後壓榨 |
| 00:03:52,400 | 00:03:54,400 | 這些油幾乎就出來了 |
| 00:03:54,400 | 00:03:56,400 | 然後這些事情 |
| 00:03:56,400 | 00:03:58,400 | 弄到密密麻麻 |
| 00:03:58,400 | 00:03:59,400 | 到了7月份 |
| 00:04:00,400 | 00:04:02,400 | 他叫食藥署 叫食部長 |
| 00:04:02,400 | 00:04:05,400 | 叫署長去拿這個 |
| 00:04:05,400 | 00:04:06,400 | 拿這個鍋 |
| 00:04:06,400 | 00:04:08,400 | 我是覺得很不道德 |
| 00:04:08,400 | 00:04:09,400 | 全部亂搞一通 |
| 00:04:09,400 | 00:04:10,400 | 後面叫 |
| 00:04:10,400 | 00:04:13,400 | 部長 食部長可憐 |
| 00:04:13,400 | 00:04:15,400 | 我唱了才知道 |
| 00:04:15,400 | 00:04:17,399 | 弄到密密麻麻 |
| 00:04:17,399 | 00:04:19,399 | 我覺得台台長 |
| 00:04:19,399 | 00:04:21,399 | 我覺得對你們很失望 |
| 00:04:21,399 | 00:04:24,400 | 我們從小都在那個甘蔗紅大 |
| 00:04:24,400 | 00:04:26,400 | 都在那裡捏尿氣 |
| 00:04:26,400 | 00:04:30,400 | 在那裡頭捏甘蔗 |
| 00:04:30,400 | 00:04:33,400 | 這年代的人都做過 |
| 00:04:33,400 | 00:04:36,400 | 吃你們的建樹堂 |
| 00:04:36,400 | 00:04:37,400 | 我家的建樹堂 |
| 00:04:37,400 | 00:04:40,400 | 雖然因為營養不良 |
| 00:04:40,400 | 00:04:41,400 | 吃你們的東西 |
| 00:04:41,400 | 00:04:42,400 | 大家都很有信心 |
| 00:04:42,400 | 00:04:45,400 | 現在大家這樣會抓狂 |
| 00:04:45,400 | 00:04:47,400 | 那你們自己有能力 |
| 00:04:47,400 | 00:04:49,400 | 用黃豆自己有進口 |
| 00:04:49,400 | 00:04:51,400 | 從美國進口 |
| 00:04:51,400 | 00:04:52,400 | 就自己搞就好了 |
| 00:04:52,400 | 00:04:53,400 | 為什麼要 |
| 00:04:53,400 | 00:04:55,400 | 現在就是有問題的油 |
| 00:04:55,400 | 00:04:58,400 | 我們的黃豆壓榨廠 |
| 00:04:58,400 | 00:05:01,400 | 它的產能不夠 |
| 00:05:01,400 | 00:05:03,400 | 台糖的生理太好 |
| 00:05:03,400 | 00:05:05,400 | 大家對它有信心 |
| 00:05:05,400 | 00:05:06,400 | 不足的部分 |
| 00:05:06,400 | 00:05:08,400 | 我們才會對外去採購出油 |
| 00:05:08,400 | 00:05:11,400 | 所以你現在採購300公升的 |
| 00:05:11,400 | 00:05:13,400 | 出膠原油 |
| 00:05:13,400 | 00:05:15,400 | 那你們一年的需要量 |
| 00:05:15,400 | 00:05:17,400 | 遠遠高過這個 |
| 00:05:17,400 | 00:05:21,400 | 是 我們一年大概需要 |
| 00:05:21,400 | 00:05:24,400 | 需要的出油大概需要 |
| 00:05:24,400 | 00:05:26,400 | 一萬多噸到兩萬噸 |
| 00:05:26,400 | 00:05:28,400 | 一萬 |
| 00:05:28,400 | 00:05:30,400 | 將近兩萬噸 |
| 00:05:30,400 | 00:05:34,400 | 就我們出油的需求量 |
| 00:05:34,400 | 00:05:36,400 | 兩萬多噸是多少 |
| 00:05:36,400 | 00:05:38,400 | 現在是300公升 |
| 00:05:38,400 | 00:05:40,400 | 300萬公升 |
| 00:05:40,400 | 00:05:42,400 | 300萬公升 |
| 00:05:42,400 | 00:05:46,400 | 我們這次招標是3000公噸 |
| 00:05:46,400 | 00:05:48,400 | 3000公噸 |
| 00:05:48,400 | 00:05:50,400 | 那一年的需要量是兩萬公噸 |
| 00:05:50,400 | 00:05:52,400 | 我看這個柏頂也不知道 |
| 00:05:52,400 | 00:05:53,400 | 柏頂也不知道 |
| 00:05:53,400 | 00:05:54,400 | 它一年要多少 |
| 00:05:54,400 | 00:05:56,400 | 你如果知道我就不相信了 |
| 00:05:56,400 | 00:05:58,400 | 你隨便亂說 |
| 00:05:58,400 | 00:05:59,400 | 好 |
| 00:05:59,400 | 00:06:01,400 | 那你 |
| 00:06:01,400 | 00:06:03,400 | 5月15號去採樣 |
| 00:06:03,400 | 00:06:07,400 | 發現它是14.7ppp |
| 00:06:07,400 | 00:06:12,400 | 那一些油現在還在中聯的油槽裡面嗎 |
| 00:06:12,400 | 00:06:15,400 | 這個我們就不曉得 |
| 00:06:15,400 | 00:06:16,400 | 我們當初驗收的時候 |
| 00:06:16,400 | 00:06:18,400 | 有遷風 |
| 00:06:18,400 | 00:06:20,400 | 把它封起來 |
| 00:06:20,400 | 00:06:21,400 | 封起來 |
| 00:06:21,400 | 00:06:25,400 | 我們等於說這一桶油 |
| 00:06:25,400 | 00:06:28,400 | 我們沒有允收 |
| 00:06:28,400 | 00:06:30,400 | 沒有接收 |
| 00:06:30,400 | 00:06:31,400 | 還是留在那個地方 |
| 00:06:31,400 | 00:06:33,400 | 那至於說後續它怎麼處理 |
| 00:06:33,400 | 00:06:35,400 | 我們就不是很清楚 |
| 00:06:35,400 | 00:06:40,400 | 然後你5月21號第一批交貨 |
| 00:06:40,400 | 00:06:42,400 | 100萬公升 |
| 00:06:42,400 | 00:06:44,400 | 也是中聯交的 |
| 00:06:44,400 | 00:06:47,400 | 1100多公升 |
| 00:06:48,400 | 00:06:50,400 | 100萬公升 |
| 00:06:50,400 | 00:06:52,400 | 沒有啦 |
| 00:06:52,400 | 00:06:55,400 | 1000公升左右 |
| 00:06:55,400 | 00:06:59,400 | 1000噸 |
| 00:06:59,400 | 00:07:01,400 | 1000噸啦 |
| 00:07:01,400 | 00:07:05,400 | 然後第二批是6月18號也是1000噸 |
| 00:07:05,400 | 00:07:07,400 | 這個也是中聯交 |
| 00:07:07,400 | 00:07:08,400 | 對 |
| 00:07:08,400 | 00:07:11,400 | 那個我們驗它是合格的 |
| 00:07:11,400 | 00:07:15,400 | 它是合乎我們的招標的 |
| 00:07:15,400 | 00:07:20,400 | 你們自己本身有能力去做檢驗 |
| 00:07:20,400 | 00:07:22,400 | 還是要委託第三方 |
| 00:07:22,400 | 00:07:24,400 | 你自己台檔有沒有能力 |
| 00:07:24,400 | 00:07:28,400 | 我們目前沒有實驗室 |
| 00:07:28,400 | 00:07:31,400 | 那你沒有能力驗這個ppp |
| 00:07:31,400 | 00:07:32,400 | 我們也可以啦 |
| 00:07:32,400 | 00:07:33,400 | 也可以驗啦 |
| 00:07:33,400 | 00:07:35,400 | 只是說經過第三方的話 |
| 00:07:35,400 | 00:07:36,400 | 它是比較公正 |
| 00:07:36,400 | 00:07:38,400 | 那你們自己在製造過程 |
| 00:07:38,400 | 00:07:41,400 | 你從脫交原有一直往下一支經驗 |
| 00:07:41,400 | 00:07:42,400 | 像我們食部長講的 |
| 00:07:42,400 | 00:07:44,400 | 還脫交脫錯算 |
| 00:07:44,400 | 00:07:47,400 | 拆到一天到晚都拆出來 |
| 00:07:47,400 | 00:07:50,400 | 那做拆之後要去給他吃 |
| 00:07:50,400 | 00:07:53,400 | 你的驗的data |
| 00:07:53,400 | 00:07:54,400 | 也是你們自己驗 |
| 00:07:54,400 | 00:07:55,400 | 還是委託第三方驗 |
| 00:07:55,400 | 00:07:59,400 | 都是委託第三方公正單位在驗 |
| 00:07:59,400 | 00:08:00,400 | 都是委託第三方 |
| 00:08:00,400 | 00:08:03,400 | 對一定要驗到合格為止 |
| 00:08:03,400 | 00:08:04,400 | 好 |
| 00:08:04,400 | 00:08:05,400 | 那我現在要講說 |
| 00:08:05,400 | 00:08:07,400 | 我們對台檔是 |
| 00:08:07,400 | 00:08:10,400 | 應該是最後一個信任 |
| 00:08:10,400 | 00:08:14,400 | 其他的可能比較沒什麼信心 |
| 00:08:14,400 | 00:08:15,400 | 所以委員不能放心 |
| 00:08:15,400 | 00:08:18,400 | 對台檔大家是這樣放心 |
| 00:08:18,400 | 00:08:20,400 | 結果你出事了就死了 |
| 00:08:20,400 | 00:08:21,400 | 不會啦 |
| 00:08:21,400 | 00:08:22,400 | 所以這個交給保證的 |
| 00:08:22,400 | 00:08:25,400 | 國防部這個阿兵哥最可憐 |
| 00:08:25,400 | 00:08:26,400 | 這個孩子最可憐 |
| 00:08:26,400 | 00:08:29,400 | 剛才就吃不死就很爽這樣 |
| 00:08:29,400 | 00:08:30,400 | 會不會這樣 |
| 00:08:30,400 | 00:08:31,400 | 不會啦 |
| 00:08:31,400 | 00:08:33,400 | 我們為什麼要進美國的黃豆 |
| 00:08:33,400 | 00:08:35,400 | 就是它的品質比較好 |
| 00:08:35,400 | 00:08:38,400 | 它的品質跟巴西的黃豆是差在哪裡 |
| 00:08:38,400 | 00:08:40,400 | 你跟我說一下 |
| 00:08:40,400 | 00:08:44,400 | 它的蛋白質含量 |
| 00:08:44,400 | 00:08:46,400 | 水分含量都比較好 |
| 00:08:46,400 | 00:08:48,400 | 它都基改 |
| 00:08:48,400 | 00:08:50,400 | 都是基因改造的 |
| 00:08:50,400 | 00:08:51,400 | 都是基改 |
| 00:08:51,400 | 00:08:54,400 | 好看起來他們有這樣80%都是基改 |
| 00:08:54,400 | 00:08:55,400 | 是是是 |
| 00:08:55,400 | 00:08:57,400 | 所以吃基改會死命 |
| 00:08:57,400 | 00:09:01,400 | 好 你們死了 |
| 00:09:01,400 | 00:09:04,400 | 吃這個就完了 |
| 00:09:04,400 | 00:09:05,400 | 沒有證據 |
| 00:09:05,400 | 00:09:08,400 | 我覺得對教育部跟國防部 |
| 00:09:08,400 | 00:09:09,400 | 這些副實裝是 |
| 00:09:09,400 | 00:09:10,400 | 我做海流了 |
| 00:09:10,400 | 00:09:12,400 | 我現在想想以前也吃什麼東西 |
| 00:09:12,400 | 00:09:13,400 | 我不知道 |
| 00:09:13,400 | 00:09:14,400 | 剛才吃吃吃 |
| 00:09:14,400 | 00:09:16,400 | 沒死到現在沒死 |
| 00:09:16,400 | 00:09:19,400 | 你好像也做這支土陸軍的 |
| 00:09:19,400 | 00:09:21,400 | 吃這隻死也不知道 |
| 00:09:21,400 | 00:09:24,400 | 現在我們對於食安的問題 |
| 00:09:24,400 | 00:09:25,400 | 我們一直修 |
| 00:09:25,400 | 00:09:26,400 | 今天要修嗎 |
| 00:09:26,400 | 00:09:27,400 | 一直修 |
| 00:09:27,400 | 00:09:30,400 | 修一修不遵守有什麼屁用 |
| 00:09:30,400 | 00:09:32,400 | 不遵守這等於零 |
| 00:09:32,400 | 00:09:34,400 | 你修了再嚴 |
| 00:09:34,400 | 00:09:35,400 | 不遵守 |
| 00:09:35,400 | 00:09:36,400 | 像這個中聯 |
| 00:09:36,400 | 00:09:39,400 | 他測出來他有他也不敢講 |
| 00:09:39,400 | 00:09:41,400 | 你現在一切部長說 |
| 00:09:41,400 | 00:09:43,400 | 我們食部長說 |
| 00:09:43,400 | 00:09:45,400 | 他也是出交原油 |
| 00:09:45,400 | 00:09:50,400 | 沒有data |
| 00:09:50,400 | 00:09:53,400 | 他的問題是出在於說 |
| 00:09:53,400 | 00:09:54,400 | 他出交原油 |
| 00:09:54,400 | 00:09:57,400 | 他把它精煉成食用油 |
| 00:09:57,400 | 00:09:58,400 | 還是超標 |
| 00:09:58,400 | 00:10:00,400 | 那個他沒有報 |
| 00:10:00,400 | 00:10:01,400 | 沒有他交給福茂 |
| 00:10:01,400 | 00:10:02,400 | 福茂這第二批 |
| 00:10:02,400 | 00:10:04,400 | 他那個時候是出局 |
| 00:10:04,400 | 00:10:05,400 | 不是 |
| 00:10:05,400 | 00:10:07,400 | 是食用油 |
| 00:10:07,400 | 00:10:08,400 | 他交的是食用油 |
| 00:10:08,400 | 00:10:10,400 | 所以中聯本身可以 |
| 00:10:10,400 | 00:10:12,400 | 一直做到食用油 |
| 00:10:12,400 | 00:10:13,400 | 沒有錯 |
| 00:10:13,400 | 00:10:15,400 | 這些工程都委託的 |
| 00:10:15,400 | 00:10:16,400 | 做假的 |
| 00:10:16,400 | 00:10:18,400 | 都OEM的 |
| 00:10:18,400 | 00:10:20,400 | 這些工程都掛名的 |
| 00:10:20,400 | 00:10:22,400 | 你把你朋友 |
| 00:10:22,400 | 00:10:23,400 | 他也沒辦法高 |
| 00:10:23,400 | 00:10:24,400 | 叫中聯高 |
| 00:10:24,400 | 00:10:26,400 | 現在你說的朋友 |
| 00:10:26,400 | 00:10:28,400 | 做成品他也做得出來 |
| 00:10:28,400 | 00:10:30,400 | 做成品做出來 |
| 00:10:30,400 | 00:10:31,400 | 做出來要 |
| 00:10:31,400 | 00:10:33,400 | 他做出來問題 |
| 00:10:33,400 | 00:10:34,400 | 他又不敢報 |
| 00:10:34,400 | 00:10:37,400 | 這樣事情嚴重 |
| 00:10:37,400 | 00:10:38,400 | 部長 |
| 00:10:38,400 | 00:10:39,400 | 市長 |
| 00:10:39,400 | 00:10:40,400 | 賴市長 |
| 00:10:40,400 | 00:10:41,400 | 你們這個公司管理 |
| 00:10:41,400 | 00:10:42,400 | 差不多差不多 |
| 00:10:42,400 | 00:10:44,400 | 差不多這個行 |
| 00:10:44,400 | 00:10:45,400 | 怕死人 |
| 00:10:45,400 | 00:10:46,400 | 我跟委員報告 |
| 00:10:46,400 | 00:10:49,400 | 中聯以為大豆沙拉油 |
| 00:10:49,400 | 00:10:51,400 | 市占率只有7% |
| 00:10:51,400 | 00:10:54,400 | 要台鐙7% |
| 00:10:54,400 | 00:10:57,400 | 其他九十三%都是民間 |
| 00:10:57,400 | 00:10:59,400 | 剛才你說的公司也有先戰 |
| 00:10:59,400 | 00:11:01,400 | 五京都都是 |
| 00:11:01,400 | 00:11:03,400 | 那個比較實在的數字我不知道 |
| 00:11:03,400 | 00:11:05,400 | 但是比較實在就是說 |
| 00:11:05,400 | 00:11:06,400 | 中央先戰 |
| 00:11:06,400 | 00:11:08,400 | 五京現在聽起來就是 |
| 00:11:08,400 | 00:11:10,400 | 他那7%都是第三方驗證 |
| 00:11:10,400 | 00:11:11,400 | 都是合格的 |
| 00:11:11,400 | 00:11:13,400 | 他掛服貿的品牌 |
| 00:11:13,400 | 00:11:15,400 | 結果是中聯做出來 |
| 00:11:15,400 | 00:11:17,400 | 他跟我連連做都不做 |
| 00:11:17,400 | 00:11:18,400 | 就吃了啦 |
| 00:11:18,400 | 00:11:20,400 | 這個中聯一天出事 |
| 00:11:20,400 | 00:11:22,400 | 自己有什麼不報 |
| 00:11:22,400 | 00:11:24,400 | 叫食藥署說他太太 |
| 00:11:24,400 | 00:11:25,400 | 都沒有要給他足皮檢查 |
| 00:11:25,400 | 00:11:27,400 | 沒有去部隊會上班 |
| 00:11:27,400 | 00:11:28,400 | 要去取消 |
| 00:11:28,400 | 00:11:30,400 | 我覺得我衛福部是有可能 |
| 00:11:30,400 | 00:11:33,400 | 所以現在知道天公會在立案調查 |
| 00:11:34,400 | 00:11:36,400 | 我等一下你經濟部這樣要怎麼改善 |
| 00:11:37,400 | 00:11:39,400 | 聚焦聚焦聚焦 |
| 00:11:40,400 | 00:11:42,400 | 你台鐙這裡要怎麼改善 |
| 00:11:42,400 | 00:11:44,400 | 要對人家一家的食品有交代 |
| 00:11:44,400 | 00:11:46,400 | 這些孩子都吃你台鐙的油 |
| 00:11:46,400 | 00:11:48,400 | 吃這個出問題 |
| 00:11:49,400 | 00:11:51,400 | 第一台鐙公司 |
| 00:11:51,400 | 00:11:54,400 | 平常我叫台鐙公司 |
| 00:11:54,400 | 00:11:56,400 | 建立自己的 |
| 00:11:56,400 | 00:11:58,400 | 包括自主檢驗的標準 |
| 00:11:58,400 | 00:12:00,400 | 包括流程自身的標準 |
| 00:12:00,400 | 00:12:02,400 | 第二就是說 |
| 00:12:02,400 | 00:12:05,400 | 經濟部會定期去查核 |
| 00:12:05,400 | 00:12:08,400 | 審計會同政風單位 |
| 00:12:08,400 | 00:12:10,400 | 去看他的採購 |
| 00:12:10,400 | 00:12:12,400 | 有照採購法的規定 |
| 00:12:13,400 | 00:12:15,400 | 採購是不是合理 |
| 00:12:15,400 | 00:12:17,400 | 包括進出貨單 |
| 00:12:17,400 | 00:12:19,400 | 這都會看 |
| 00:12:19,400 | 00:12:20,400 | 第三就是說 |
| 00:12:20,400 | 00:12:22,400 | 在年度的時候 |
| 00:12:22,400 | 00:12:23,400 | 結束的時候 |
| 00:12:23,400 | 00:12:25,400 | 也會有相關單位 |
| 00:12:25,400 | 00:12:27,400 | 甚至說包括 |
| 00:12:27,400 | 00:12:29,400 | 經濟部議會的單位 |
| 00:12:29,400 | 00:12:31,400 | 會去查國營事業 |
| 00:12:31,400 | 00:12:33,400 | 不然在一個位置 |
| 00:12:33,400 | 00:12:35,400 | 台鐙出產的產品 |
| 00:12:35,400 | 00:12:37,400 | 它的原料一定是要 |
| 00:12:37,400 | 00:12:39,400 | 檢驗合格交代 |
| 00:12:39,400 | 00:12:41,400 | 台鐙的商業 |
| 00:12:41,400 | 00:12:43,400 | 另外它出產的產品 |
| 00:12:43,400 | 00:12:45,400 | 也要特別是 |
| 00:12:45,400 | 00:12:47,400 | 食品的部分 |
| 00:12:47,400 | 00:12:49,400 | 它要通過食安法的規定 |
| 00:12:49,400 | 00:12:50,400 | 我告訴你 |
| 00:12:50,400 | 00:12:52,400 | 現在我們民間 |
| 00:12:52,400 | 00:12:54,400 | 我們常常走行程 |
| 00:12:54,400 | 00:12:56,400 | 民間對台鐙 |
| 00:12:56,400 | 00:12:58,400 | 是真的reliable company |
| 00:12:58,400 | 00:13:00,400 | 這幾十年來 |
| 00:13:00,400 | 00:13:01,400 | 很多人 |
| 00:13:01,400 | 00:13:02,400 | 在這裡的人 |
| 00:13:02,400 | 00:13:04,400 | 很多跟台鐙有關係 |
| 00:13:04,400 | 00:13:06,400 | 土地、食物這樣站 |
| 00:13:06,400 | 00:13:08,400 | 所以對台鐙是有絕對的信心 |
| 00:13:08,400 | 00:13:10,400 | 其他人我沒有信心 |
| 00:13:10,400 | 00:13:11,400 | 對台鐙有信心 |
| 00:13:11,400 | 00:13:13,400 | 所以我現在具體建議 |
| 00:13:13,400 | 00:13:15,400 | 結束了 |
| 00:13:15,400 | 00:13:16,400 | 具體建議就是說 |
| 00:13:16,400 | 00:13:18,400 | 台鐙自己在美國買房子 |
| 00:13:18,400 | 00:13:19,400 | 用費貴租 |
| 00:13:19,400 | 00:13:21,400 | 拼一件保證 |
| 00:13:21,400 | 00:13:22,400 | 你自己拿油 |
| 00:13:22,400 | 00:13:23,400 | 自己拿自己做 |
| 00:13:23,400 | 00:13:24,400 | 你就擴廠 |
| 00:13:24,400 | 00:13:26,400 | 自己擴自己的廠 |
| 00:13:26,400 | 00:13:27,400 | 台鐙那麼好 |
| 00:13:27,400 | 00:13:29,400 | 專大人最大的地主 |
| 00:13:29,400 | 00:13:31,400 | 現在一年到十五年 |
| 00:13:31,400 | 00:13:32,400 | 收到這幾十萬人 |
| 00:13:32,400 | 00:13:33,400 | 對不對 |
| 00:13:33,400 | 00:13:34,400 | 五萬多公斤的土地 |
| 00:13:35,400 | 00:13:37,400 | 市長你了解嗎 |
| 00:13:37,400 | 00:13:38,400 | 自己在做 |
| 00:13:38,400 | 00:13:41,400 | 你萬一敢買中間的油品 |
| 00:13:41,400 | 00:13:43,400 | 感謝威丸支持台鐙 |
| 00:13:43,400 | 00:13:44,400 | 絕對支持你 |
| 00:13:44,400 | 00:13:46,400 | 自己在客戶 |
| 00:13:46,400 | 00:13:47,400 | 自己在賣 |
| 00:13:47,400 | 00:13:48,400 | 交給副食品 |
| 00:13:48,400 | 00:13:50,400 | 給孩子吃 |
| 00:13:50,400 | 00:13:51,400 | 這樣吃的孩子 |
| 00:13:51,400 | 00:13:53,400 | 你怎麼跟道道破鐘 |
| 00:13:53,400 | 00:13:55,400 | 不然你去市場買東西 |
| 00:13:55,400 | 00:13:57,400 | 國外要交你二級 |
| 00:13:57,400 | 00:13:59,400 | 感謝威丸對台鐙 |
| 00:13:59,400 | 00:14:01,400 | 有來賺定的信心 |
| 00:14:01,400 | 00:14:03,400 | 現在這個年代 |
| 00:14:03,400 | 00:14:04,400 | 也是講任性 |
| 00:14:04,400 | 00:14:06,400 | 台鐙你是最老牌的 |
| 00:14:06,400 | 00:14:08,400 | 我們對你有絕對的信心 |
| 00:14:08,400 | 00:14:11,400 | 你不做到我們被非編罵 |
| 00:14:11,400 | 00:14:13,400 | 真的是對不起國人 |
| 00:14:13,400 | 00:14:15,400 | 市長我這樣強具體建議 |
| 00:14:15,400 | 00:14:17,400 | 我總執行要再問你 |
| 00:14:17,400 | 00:14:18,400 | 感謝威丸 |
| 00:14:18,400 | 00:14:19,400 | 謝謝 |