| IVOD_ID |
170837 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170837 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
22 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-05T10:54:21+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-05T11:05:47+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:26 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d053bb9b075f6aeae9eca0501e49646c5034063ebe585f569e152d6567b454d311b57a280f0214d75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐欣瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:54:21 - 11:05:47 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查「臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例」：(一)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等18人擬具「臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例增訂第九十三條之四條文草案」案。(二)審查委員林楚茵等24人擬具「臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例第十八條之一條文修正草案」案。(三)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具「臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例第六十九條條文修正草案」案。(四)審查委員李柏毅等20人擬具「臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例第十八條之一條文修正草案」案。(五)審查委員李柏毅等16人擬具「臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例部分條文修正草案」案。二、審查「香港澳門關係條例」：(一)繼續審查委員張宏陸等20人擬具「香港澳門關係條例第十四條、第十四條之一及第四十七條之一條文修正草案」案。(二)審查委員李柏毅等16人擬具「香港澳門關係條例部分條文修正草案」案。【僅詢答】） |
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來 子瑄 |
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好 謝謝主席 |
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本席有請邱主委 |
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許瑋揚好 |
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好 邱主委 |
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26.46 |
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我們今天審查路資透過屆民登記取得台灣土地的問題 |
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那本席很快的請教您 |
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陸委會同意修法 |
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但是我們國會也想要知道 |
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近十年 |
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究竟有多少這種案件 |
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那這些案件 |
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涉及了多少土地面積 |
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交易金額是多少 |
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那其中又有多少是位於軍事設施 |
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港口機場 |
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能源 通訊水庫 |
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科技園區 |
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或其他關鍵基礎設施的周邊 |
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那這幾年您可以簡單的回覆這幾個問題嗎 |
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謝謝委員子 |
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69.06 |
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有關於中國大陸人民來台灣取得不動產的建樹 |
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我們是許可志嘛 |
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近十年 |
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77.06 |
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我們總共的建樹是748件 |
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81.06 |
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那有多少涉及土地面積 |
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土地面積 |
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87.06 |
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我們如果按照權利價值的話 |
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92.06 |
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這個是百萬 |
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有187億的價值 |
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101.06 |
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這是我們內政部估算的 |
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101.06 |
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102.06 |
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我是問你 |
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102.06 |
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104.06 |
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有多少 |
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109.06 |
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這些案件涉及多少土地面積 |
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109.06 |
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111.06 |
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你剛剛講的是交易金額嗎 |
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111.06 |
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112.06 |
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100多億 |
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112.06 |
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113.06 |
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權利價值 |
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113.06 |
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115.06 |
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權利價值 估值 |
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115.06 |
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118.06 |
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那你如果要取得的土地 |
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118.06 |
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120.06 |
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面積知道嗎 |
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120.06 |
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123.06 |
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我們有一個總量管制 |
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就是土地不要 |
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這是總量管制 |
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但是沒有超過這個管制 |
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那我們希望我們的每年的管制是13公頃 |
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每年的 |
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然後建物是400戶 |
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那如果是 |
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建物叫做400戶 |
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對 建物 |
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建物 |
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對 房子400戶 |
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這是我們年度的管制的量 |
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那有多少位於相關的關鍵基礎設施 |
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什麼港口機場 通訊水庫 |
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各位報告 |
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我們的兩岸條例 |
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就路人來購買這些不動產 |
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都要由主管機關許可 |
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我們是許可制 |
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委員剛剛說到那些 |
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可能國家關鍵基礎設施 |
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或是藥塞保理地帶 |
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我只是要問 |
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都不許可 |
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陸委會有沒有掌握 |
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都沒有 |
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都沒有 |
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那接著本席請教 |
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那我們這個在修法的時候 |
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這個內容 |
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它只寫到就是禁止屆民登記 |
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那這個屆民登記 |
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其實它只是一種最傳統 |
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最表面的規避方式 |
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就是如果對岸 |
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大陸有人要來買我們這邊的 |
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不動產土地的話 |
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那所以它也有可能改用第三地的公司 |
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或者是它用美國人民益 |
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它用國際公司 |
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化國企業等等 |
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所以我們修法 |
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我們也沒看到陸委會 |
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陸委會就是同意 |
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但陸委會好像也沒有版本 |
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可是你們是主要的主管機關 |
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所以我們希望修法核心 |
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是不是就不能只寫屆民登記 |
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是不是應該你要修 |
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你就要完整的考量 |
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要整套 |
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這一塊您的看法怎麼樣 |
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我非常同意 |
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如果有更完整的一個立法 |
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讓大家可以來遵守 |
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那你們自己有沒有版本 |
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因為立委有考量到這一點 |
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那當然立委 |
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他團隊各方面也寫了這個法條 |
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你們有自己的版本嗎 |
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是 |
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還有你們是主管機關 |
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你們應該看得更全面更整全套 |
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我們有跟武力華委員有很多的討論 |
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特別是武力華委員非常關切的是 |
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原住民保留地 |
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非常大量的屆民登記 |
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那他也認為有許多的路資 |
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採取屆民登記來收購 |
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我的問題就是 |
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我們是很支持這個屆民登記 |
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在這個土地登記跟移轉是無效的 |
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當然要有證據 |
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好啦我直接問你 |
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陸委會是否支持在法律或明確授權命令中 |
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建立實質受益人資金來源 |
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以及實際控制的認定標準 |
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我剛剛講了你只是屆民登記 |
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你只是禁止屆民登記 |
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但實際上他可以迂迴 |
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他再用第三地第三人 |
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各種方式 |
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所以這一塊 |
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我想你們來努力好不好 |
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我這個質詢的時間 |
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我知道委員是要避免漏洞 |
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對當然很多規避漏洞 |
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這個是你們的職責你知道嗎 |
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你們主管單位行政單位的職責 |
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所以我希望你們加油一點 |
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那再來本席要問 |
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好如果這個這邊 |
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我們內政部只有來移民署 |
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也就是說如果我們發現了 |
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那你要這個 |
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譬如說地政機關看到登記簿上的權利人 |
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但地政機關他看得到跨境境外的匯款 |
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就是說如果要查的話 |
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這個單位誰來查 |
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主責單位是你們嗎 |
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不可能嗎 |
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我想是主管單位 |
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但今天內政部好像只有移民署 |
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我們有地政司的同仁 |
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地政司專門委員 |
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報告委員如果是移轉登記的話 |
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我們只會看依照契約上面 |
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我們沒有辦法去查他的資金來 |
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對所以現在主委 |
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究竟哪一個機關來統合這件事 |
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如果有檢舉案的話 |
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誰負責查誰是主責機關 |
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單一主責機關是誰 |
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應該是誰 |
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內政部 |
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應該是內政部 |
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那內政部怎麼辦 |
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你有辦法查到境外匯款嗎 |
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你看得到第三地公司的最終受益人嗎 |
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還有你看得到股東之間的整個控制協議嗎 |
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還有看得到金融機構的客戶審查資料嗎 |
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看不到那怎麼辦 |
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所以主責機關是內政部 |
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那你們在韓請其他單位是這樣嗎 |
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我們目前都這個部分是 |
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因為今天的條文是沒有規定 |
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對好很好你的回答 |
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因為我的時間的關係 |
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主委這個我們在修這個法的時候 |
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要更完善一點好不好 |
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我們今天大概點出幾個問題 |
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是謝謝委員 |
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你是主責單位你們 |
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如果這個法案要討論真的要來修 |
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那你們應該要更全面的考量 |
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而且給出好的建議甚至好的版本 |
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是好嗎 |
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是謝謝委員 |
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好OK那地政部地政司的請回座 |
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那這個主委本席很快再詢問一下 |
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因為我們現在食安的問題 |
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我們兩岸有食安合作機制吧 |
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有 |
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尤其我們最近看到這個苦茶油 |
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苦茶油也爆出來這個問題 |
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那請問涉案的苦茶油 |
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那個苦茶籽好像說是可能來自中國大陸 |
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那請問我們陸委會 |
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我們中華民國政府有沒有依照兩項協議 |
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正式請求陸方共同調查 |
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你們做了沒 |
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還沒有 |
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包委員因為主管機關 |
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當然我們兩岸有食品安全協議 |
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對 |
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還有你剛剛提出來的 |
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因為這個苦茶油那個原料應該是農產品的檢驗合作機 |
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對啊就來自中國大陸 |
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農業部的 |
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你們要不要進行 |
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我知道我聽你回答我就知道根本還沒進行 |
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但我們民眾都已經知道那個苦茶籽可能來自中國大陸 |
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但是我們這邊毫無動作 |
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你們是否會正式請陸方共同調查 |
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雖然我們必須在這邊 |
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這個是在調查過程 |
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我們並不是認定一定是他們中國大陸的原料造成的 |
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但是現在有這個疑慮的時候 |
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我們就要通盤啟動 |
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對不對 |
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依協議啟動調查 |
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本身不是責任認定我們是在做風險管理 |
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所以主委可以做嗎 |
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可以 |
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陸委會可以嗎 |
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我們會來問主管機關農業部 |
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因為其實目前為止他們有跟我們 |
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有任何的請求 |
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或是說請我們來合作 |
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你說誰沒有跟你們請求 |
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農業部針對你剛剛提到的可能有出現問題的原料 |
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所以你在這邊就證明了這個食安問題 |
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尤其這個毒油風暴延燒了一個月了 |
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結果政府的態度還是拖拖拉拉 |
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你在這邊證明啊 |
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對啊農業部也沒找你們 |
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你們看到好像疑似新聞大概都有報導 |
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連我們都看到了 |
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可能是中國大陸來的 |
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你們也是沒有主動積極的查 |
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我想因為時間關係 |
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我也不想浪費大家時間 |
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耽誤大家時間 |
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所以主委我們建立跨境食安的治理 |
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絕對不是等事件發生 |
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因為今天可能有苦茶油 |
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明天可能是茶葉芝麻花生中藥材等等等 |
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所以我們比較想知道的是我們的政府到底有沒有能力 |
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在第一時間追到源頭 |
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查明真相 |
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這些農產品原物料 |
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有造成食安問題 |
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我們就是希望陸委會能夠積極善用海峽兩岸食品安全協議 |
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646.06 |
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還有海峽兩岸農產品檢驗合作協議 |
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652.06 |
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把兩岸既有的機制制度運用在保障人民健康 |
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653.06 |
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不是等到事件 |
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655.06 |
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這次是事件發生了 |
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656.06 |
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你們都還沒動 |
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但我們要求的是你們應該更積極 |
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不是等到事件結束你才回頭檢討 |
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所以最後本席要說是我們的食品安全沒有藍綠 |
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668.06 |
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對不對 |
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669.06 |
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大家每天都在吃 |
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你吃到毒油 |
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672.06 |
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我也吃到毒油 |
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675.06 |
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我們也絕對不要兩岸對立 |
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677.06 |
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我們食品安全只有共同一個目標 |
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就是要讓人民吃得安心吃得安全 |
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683.06 |
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請陸委會加油一點好嗎 |
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684.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
謝謝許委員 |
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685.06 |
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我們祝福主在 |
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686.06 |
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謝謝 |