| IVOD_ID |
170810 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170810 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-36-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第28次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
28 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第28次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-05T09:20:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-05T09:35:24+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
陳昭姿 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:20:00 - 09:35:24 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第28次全體委員會議（事由：一、併案審查
（一）委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員王育敏等16人擬具「法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員羅智強等18人擬具「法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
（四）委員吳宗憲等17人擬具「法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
【第（三）、（四）案如經院會復議，則不予審查】
二、併案審查
（一）委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「行政法院組織法第二十一條、第二十二條及第二十四條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員王育敏等19人擬具「行政法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員羅智強等18人擬具「行政法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
【第（三）案各黨團若未提出不復議同意書，則不予審查】
三、併案審查
（一）委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「智慧財產及商業法院組織法第十八條及第二十一條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員王育敏等20人擬具「智慧財產及商業法院組織法第十八條、第二十一條及第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員羅智強等18人擬具「智慧財產及商業法院組織法第十八條、第二十一條及第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
【第（三）案如經院會復議，則不予審查】
四、併案審查
（一）委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「少年及家事法院組織法第十四條及第十五條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員王育敏等20人擬具「少年及家事法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員羅智強等18人擬具「少年及家事法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
【第（三）案各黨團若未提出不復議同意書，則不予審查】
五、併案審查
（一）委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「懲戒法院組織法第六條及第七條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員王育敏等20人擬具「懲戒法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員羅智強等18人擬具「懲戒法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
【第（三）案各黨團若未提出不復議同意書，則不予審查】
【本次會議僅進行詢答】） |
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陳委員昭姿 |
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陳委員昭姿 |
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914.65596875 |
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922.85721875 |
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0.982 |
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SPEAKER_04 |
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陳委員昭姿 |
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923.75159375 |
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0.982 |
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0 |
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1 |
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席經發言 |
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6 |
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7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].start |
7 |
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9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
有請司法院高秘書長 |
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9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
10.6 |
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仁總的副人事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
10.6 |
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13.6 |
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群序部次長跟法務部的代表 |
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13.6 |
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14 |
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好 |
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14 |
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14.6 |
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是司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
14.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
18.2 |
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好 麻煩這幾位長官可以到備詢台 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
18.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
20.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
21.4 |
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好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
21.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
那四位首長早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
24 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
27 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
我麻煩你就跟我一起先來看看這幾張 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
27 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
29.6 |
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這幾年來地院的案件量 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
29.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
34 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
過去11年地方法院民事案件的部分在左邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
34 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
37.2 |
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新收案件暴增46% |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
37.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
41 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
未結件數暴增154% |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
41.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
43.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
那至於刑事案件右邊的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
43.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
47.2 |
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未結件的數暴增122% |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
47.2 |
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49.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
那過去刑事案每一個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
49.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
52.6 |
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就是說平均每件所需要天數是66天 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
52.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
56 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
現在已經拉長到112天 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
56 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
59.2 |
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那背後的原因我想各位首長應該能夠理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
59.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
63.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
那我接下來我們繼續看地檢署的案件量 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
63.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
65.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
新收案件逐年遞增 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
65.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
69 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
去年新收案件將近70萬件 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
69 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
71.8 |
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未結件數13萬件 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
71.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
73.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
案量一直增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
73.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
75.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
怎麼處理得完呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
78.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
80.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
那我們再繼續來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
80.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
83.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
最近幾年這個大家大概都清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
83.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
86 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
地檢署跟法院的案量暴增 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
86 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
89 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
不只是說書記官過勞 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
89 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
91.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
現在還有法警剛剛幾位我也提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
91.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
93.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
他要維持這個法庭秩序 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
93.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
95 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
要壓解人犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
95 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
97 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
他的勤務越來越重 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
97 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
100.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
那現在的升遷體制根本留不住人 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
100.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
102.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
那這次司法院提出修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
102.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
106 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
可是我的辦公室受到很多的陳情 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
106 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
107.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
基層法警問 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
107.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
110.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
為什麼只有法警長跟副法警長 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
110.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
113.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
他這個直接是提升的 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
113.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
115.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
那基層法警承擔了很多工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
115.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
117.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
直接卻沒有提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
117.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
118.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
這樣合理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
118.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
122 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
所以我主張基層法警值等 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
122 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
124.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
應該一併提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
124.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
126.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
我看是不是全序部跟司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
126.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
129.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
能夠先做這個部分就再回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
131.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
132.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
132.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
133.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
就是基層法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
133.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
136 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
為什麼這次都沒有去改變呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
136 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
137.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
137.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
141 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
因為當初這個在跟全序部 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
141 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
142 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
協商的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
142 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
143.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
全序部商量的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
143.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
145.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
也是有考慮到剛剛全序部 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
145.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
147.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
所講的那些值等問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
147.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
149 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
所以就沒有想到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
149 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
152.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
就暫時先讓法監長 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
152.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
155.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
還有他們可以分小隊長先來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
155.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
155.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
155.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
158 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
我還是希望你針對我的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
158 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
159 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
因為時間有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
159 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
160.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
就是基層的法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
160.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
162.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
為什麼都不動他呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
162.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
163.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
163.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
165.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
我就說剛剛跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
165.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
167 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
就是剛剛有一張小量 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
167 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
168.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
可是老實說 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
168.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
172 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
我們也是希望他們能夠提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
172 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
173.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
所以非常感謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
173.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
176.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
能夠在這一次的修法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
177.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
178.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
你覺得障礙是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
178.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
179.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
179.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
180.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
你基本法也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
180.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
181.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
當初的障礙是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
181.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
184.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
只是單純考試列等的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
184.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
187.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
考量到這個問題而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
187.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
189.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
可是就如同委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
189.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
190.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
基層法警就如同 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
190.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
192.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
因為案件量增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
192.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
193.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
工作一定增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
193.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
195.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
責任也增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
195.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
196.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
對 當然一定是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
196.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
197.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
公務內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
197.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
199.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
那為什麼沒有考慮到基層法警呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
199.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
201.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
就是剛剛跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
201.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
202.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
當時就考量到 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
202.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
204.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
考試關係什麼關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
204.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
206.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
所以一下子就這樣決定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
206.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
207.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
207.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
210.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
我全序部有回答嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
210.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
212.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
那個我跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
212.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
212.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
因為第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
212.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
215.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
現行公務員任用法第六條已經規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
215.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
216.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
他說每個職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
216.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
218.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
最多是跨二或三職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
218.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
220.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
那現行法警已經是從三到五職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
220.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
221.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
已經跨到三職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
221.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
223.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
我明白你講的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
223.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
224.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
第一個我要跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
224.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
226.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
有個權理制度不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
226.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
228.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
有個權宜制度你們也在用 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
228.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
229.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
為什麼不能用 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
229.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
230.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
這是第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
230.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
231.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
231.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
234.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
所有的這個制度都是人定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
234.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
236.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
你又與時俱進 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
236.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
237.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
如果人在流失 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
237.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
238.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
工作量在增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
238.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
242.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
你還要保持幾十年前的規定嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
242.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
243.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
次長對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
243.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
244.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
就是說這個權宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
244.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
246.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
你們有個權理制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
246.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
248.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
就是權宜制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
248.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
250.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
那很多法規為什麼要重修 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
250.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
252.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
就是要與時俱進 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
252.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
254.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
所以制度是人定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
254.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
257.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
我是覺得這個理由不該成為理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
257.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
259.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
就是次長我讓你做一下參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
259.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
260.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
260.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
261.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
我們再來看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
261.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
263.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
司法院提出的這個法院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
263.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
265.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
副表修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
265.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
267.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
他修改了法官、檢察官、書記官的原額 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
267.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
268.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
但我仔細看 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
268.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
270.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
其實問題很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
270.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
271.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
以地方法院來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
271.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
272.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
左邊這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
272.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
273.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
第一類的地院 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
273.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
276.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
法官家庭長本來最高原額是兩百人 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
276.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
278.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
書記官最高原額是三百人 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
278.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
281.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
那修正草案第一類之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
281.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
284.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
就是說案量三十萬件以上的法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
284.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
287.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
法官最高的原額是兩百五十人 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
287.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
289.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
書記官是三百七十五人 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
289.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
293.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
那法官跟書記官的配比 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
293.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
295.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
依然是一比一點五 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
295.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
297.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
為什麼會這樣呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
297.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
300.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
案量增加一點五倍夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
300.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
302.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
是不是司法院先回答這一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
302.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
303.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
你覺得這樣夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
303.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
304.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
這個配比夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
304.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
305.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
合理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
305.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
306.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
306.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
307.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
案量增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
307.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
310.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
法官跟書記官同時都有負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
310.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
312.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
其實就配比來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
312.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
313.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
夠不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
313.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
316.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
這我很難講說一定夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
316.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
318.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
因為書記官工作的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
318.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
319.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
老實說 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
319.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
321.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
我覺得應該要到一點八到二左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
321.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
322.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
因為我曾經說 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
322.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
324.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
書記官工作現在幾乎是 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
324.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
325.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
你說應該到多少一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
325.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
326.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
一點八到二 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
326.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
328.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
一點八到是理想是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
328.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
329.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
329.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
330.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
可是那同樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
330.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
333.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
老實說不止書記官原額要增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
333.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
335.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
法官原額也要增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
335.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
336.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
好 民事長你講的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
336.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
339.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
當然表面上是合情合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
339.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
340.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
但是你也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
340.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
341.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
書記官流失很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
341.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
343.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
我先稍微等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
343.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
344.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
那我請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
344.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
345.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
對 我再請問一下 |
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345.7 |
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348.1 |
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總原額法有沒有限制你這個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
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350.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
總原額法本身有沒有限定 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
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352.5 |
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限制了你這個對於這個配比 |
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353.5 |
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354.9 |
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總原額法本身 |
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355.7 |
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沒有嗎 有 |
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356.7 |
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沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
356.7 |
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358.7 |
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配比不是在總原額法限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
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361.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
總原額法是限制了我們所有的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
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363.3 |
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對 但是我剛剛強調說 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
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364.9 |
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書記官就是不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
364.9 |
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366.1 |
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對 不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
366.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
368.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
很多法官還甚至在幫忙書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
368.3 |
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370.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
這樣怎麼讓法官好好做事 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
370.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
371.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
都有 他們都要互相合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
371.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
372.7 |
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所以我的重點說 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
372.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
373.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
為什麼這個配比 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
373.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
374.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
你覺得合理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
374.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
375.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
能夠調高 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
375.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
376.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
我是費心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
376.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
377.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
總原額法你就老實說 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
377.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
379.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
我再給你支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
379.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
381.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
你覺得會不會有限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
381.5 |
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382.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
限制你 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
382.3 |
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384.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
總原額法是我們的魔咒 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
384.5 |
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385.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
魔咒 好 謝謝你 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
385.9 |
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386.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
來 請問任總 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
386.9 |
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388.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
來 任總 麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
389.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
390.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
為什麼要限制總原額 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
390.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
392.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
詐騙案這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
392.5 |
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395.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
地檢跟地院都要崩了 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
395.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
397.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
書記官累到沒人想做 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
397.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
398.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
你繼續砍原額 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
398.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
401.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
你效上地檢跟法院整個這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
401.1 |
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402.3 |
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癱瘓掉嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
402.3 |
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404.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
1.5倍顯然就不夠啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
404.5 |
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406.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
1.5倍顯然不夠啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
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408.1 |
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對不對 任總 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
408.1 |
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409.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
你們聽到這個說法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
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411.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
你聽到我談的話嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
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414.5 |
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就不夠你怎麼再學健保那個總額 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
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415.5 |
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那個問題出很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
415.5 |
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417.1 |
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你這裡也要學這個總額制 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
417.1 |
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419.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
你要看與時俱進啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
419.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
421.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
421.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
424.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
其實在司法的原額的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
424.5 |
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426.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
你限制總原額的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
426.5 |
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428.1 |
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這是魔咒啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
428.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
429.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
今天秘書長老實講 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
429.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
430.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
我給他做支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
430.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
432.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
我支持他魔咒啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
432.9 |
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435.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
現在回到你們身上了 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
435.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
436.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
這個魔咒要打開啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
436.9 |
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439.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
我來跟這個委員做報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
440.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
442.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
在我們客機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
442.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
445.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
在近十年其實就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
445.9 |
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449.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
它的原額的增減是算是比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
449.9 |
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452.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
平盤的這個狀態底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
452.9 |
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455.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
我們最近的十年增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
455.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
457.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
司法機關跟檢察機關的原額 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
457.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
459.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
大概有三千個左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
459.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
462.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
兩千九百七十一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
462.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
465.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
司法院大概增加了一千四百七十六 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
465.9 |
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468.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
檢察機關增加了一千四百九十五 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
468.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
470.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
你處理司法院沒有處理法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
470.9 |
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472.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
剛剛提到的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
472.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
474.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
目前司法機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
474.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
476.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
還在考試分發或領埔中 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
476.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
478.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
或者是未運用的缺額 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
478.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
480.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
還有一千一百一十九個 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
480.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
482.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
檢察機關有四百七十八個 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
482.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
484.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
我剛剛給你那麼多的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
484.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
486.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
你那個總原額的先生你好好聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
486.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
488.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
我現在跟他們站在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
488.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
491.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
這個不及司法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
491.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
493.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
我現在想麻煩司法院秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
493.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
495.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
我請你回去研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
495.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
497.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
多少比例以現在目前的業務量 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
497.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
499.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
你認為多少比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
499.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
501.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
是比較恰當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
501.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
502.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
我完全支持你 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
502.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
503.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
你請你給我答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
503.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
505.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
然後我請任總 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
505.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
507.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
要來思考好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
507.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
508.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
這個問題很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
508.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
509.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
我現在再請教司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
509.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
510.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
我們來看高等法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
510.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
512.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
現在不是只有這個地院的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
512.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
514.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
第一類法庭院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
514.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
516.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
法庭庭長將法官本來最高四百八十人 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
516.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
518.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
書記官四百八十八人 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
518.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
520.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
修正查案變成了法官三百六十人 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
520.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
522.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
書記官三百六十八人 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
522.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
523.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
為什麼原額變少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
523.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
524.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
請你告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
524.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
526.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
為什麼原額變少了呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
526.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
529.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
來 我聽問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
529.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
531.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
又是總原額法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
531.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
532.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
你挪來挪去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
532.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
534.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
為什麼沒有變少 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
534.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
535.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
工作量減少嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
535.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
536.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
536.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
537.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
我剛剛已經秀資料了 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
537.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
539.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
為什麼這裡是原額變少呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
539.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
540.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
給我一個清楚的理由好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
540.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
542.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
很簡單的清楚理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
542.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
544.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
其實很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
544.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
546.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
為什麼變少 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
546.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
549.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
第一個地院的案件是 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
549.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
552.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
增加的非常快 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
552.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
555.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
那高院的案件稍微慢一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
555.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
556.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
對 也會增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
556.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
557.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
對 相對會增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
557.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
558.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
因為它慢 所以我們就保守一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
558.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
561.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
當然最重要還是總原額法 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
561.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
562.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
好 就暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
562.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
563.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
就是這句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
563.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
564.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
暫停 好 |
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564.9 |
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566.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
任總 麻煩你 副人事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
566.9 |
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569.9 |
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高院也是要接受全國上訴的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
569.9 |
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570.9 |
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你看看右邊這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
570.9 |
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573.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
今年一月到六月民事上訴就六千六百七十二件 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
573.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
577.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
刑事上訴一萬四千八百三十九件 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
577.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
579.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
老實說 大家都過勞了 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
579.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
582.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
我們今天才談到這個修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
582.9 |
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585.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
那結果非但不提高整體的原額 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
585.9 |
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589.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
還把原額挪來挪去 像話嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
589.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
591.9 |
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你要這樣卡 卡到什麼時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
591.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
592.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
592.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
594.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
其實剛好已經有跟委員報告了 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
594.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
598.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
在各機關的這個總數沒有變動之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
598.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
600.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
其實司法跟檢察機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
600.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
602.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
我們近十年已經補了三千個 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
602.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
604.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
沒有 你上一次挪到108年 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
604.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
606.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
現在其實司法體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
606.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
608.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
這個業務量大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
608.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
609.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
其實大家都看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
609.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
611.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
然後大家一起在解決這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
611.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
614.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
從補充人力 提高待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
614.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
616.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
其實剛剛也有委員也提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
616.9 |
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618.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
兩個都有嘛 這個會不會是缺乏一樣嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
618.9 |
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620.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
另外今天要處理的就是提高列等 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
620.9 |
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621.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
提高列等 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
621.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
622.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
然後另外一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
622.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
625.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
其實我們在五六月的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
625.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
627.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
有到司法院跟檢察機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
627.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
631.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
你就告訴我原額法你要不要好好檢討一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
631.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
635.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
總要法其實有它的機制可以處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
635.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
637.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
好 我現在請教法務部代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
637.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
639.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
我們來看看地檢署 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
639.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
641.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
以現在詐騙案量這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
641.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
644.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
有這麼多申請定職行情的這個業務量 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
644.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
647.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
這次的檢察官數據官原額所增加的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
647.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
648.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
請你回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
648.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
650.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
你覺得夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
650.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
651.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
651.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
653.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
要不要再想一想 夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
653.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
655.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
我們當然還是希望那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
655.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
657.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
就是司法人員的人數可以增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
657.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
659.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
因為現在確實在打擊犯罪上 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
659.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
660.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
大家都很努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
660.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
662.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
所以案件量是非常大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
662.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
664.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
那你有受到總原額影響嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
664.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
665.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
當然有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
665.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
668.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
當然有嘛 總原額影響嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
668.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
670.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
所以這個我想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
670.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
672.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
就因為今天是司長來啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
672.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
674.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
你真的要為你的基層們 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
674.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
676.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
我今天就當作你代表部長來 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
676.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
679.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
你要為你的基層想一想 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
679.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
681.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
到底這樣夠不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
681.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
683.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
有什麼障礙跟困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
683.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
684.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
要讓我們知道啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
684.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
686.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
所以大家還是回到一個總原額量 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
686.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
688.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
這簡直是魔咒 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
688.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
689.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
我們想辦法把它拆開 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
689.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
691.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
也不是說大開放嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
691.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
693.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
我們要有一個合理的數字嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
693.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
695.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
我剛剛一開始努力給你們這麼多的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
695.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
697.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
好 我現在再請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
697.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
699.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
司法院法務部連總看看這個新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
699.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
701.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
今年三月開始書記官的紀錄費 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
701.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
703.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
剛剛這個吳委員也有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
703.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
706.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
有四千七調到六千零七十元 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
706.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
709.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
這個是動漲二十八年以後耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
709.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
710.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
第一次調整耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
710.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
712.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
可是今年五院媒體吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
712.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
713.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
以新北來說嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
713.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
714.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
它缺二七十一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
714.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
715.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
拿兩個人報到啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
715.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
718.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
你這個提升的幅度就是不夠啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
718.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
722.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
那你現在怎麼處理這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
722.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
723.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
書記官遠遠不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
723.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
724.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
你怎麼處理這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
724.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
726.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
就是說紀錄的紀錄費 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
726.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
728.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
這個我們對一些人才的流失 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
728.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
729.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
基本上就兩件事嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
729.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
730.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
一個是薪資待遇嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
730.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
732.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
一個是工作環境的改善嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
732.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
736.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
那現在我們提到它這個動漲二十八年 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
736.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
740.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
提高到這樣子多了一千三百塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
742.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
745.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
那你覺得還有其他的方法處理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
745.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
746.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
這樣夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
746.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
747.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
747.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
748.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
絕對不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
748.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
749.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
絕對不夠嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
749.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
750.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
750.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
753.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
我們當初是想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
753.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
756.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
是希望能夠調到一萬五到兩萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
756.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
757.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
757.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
758.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
差這麼遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
758.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
760.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
可是我們也要感謝它 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
760.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
762.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
它們已經提高了 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
762.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
763.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
那秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
763.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
766.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
那你預期明年多少人會報到 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
766.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
767.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
如果以這個費 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
767.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
769.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
老實說新北地院 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
769.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
772.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
我們現在很努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
772.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
775.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
可是我相信報到率還是會在五十 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
775.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
776.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
還是很慘嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
776.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
777.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
還是很慘嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
777.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
779.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
那如果你不針對書記官稍微處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
779.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
780.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
如果就算調薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
780.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
782.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
調薪是大家一起調 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
782.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
784.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
你如果不針對書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
784.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
785.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
他還是可以往別處去嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
785.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
786.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
是是是 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
786.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
788.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
所以希望能夠支持調薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
788.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
790.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
所以最後就是這一張 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
790.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
792.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
就是請市委首長代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
792.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
795.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
就是請你們一個月內來回覆我 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
795.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
796.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
當然請中環哥兩座 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
796.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
797.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
797.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
798.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
我請任總 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
798.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
800.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
你還是要針對走員額啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
800.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
801.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
你進行檢討嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
801.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
802.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
你好好想一想嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
802.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
803.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
803.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
804.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
804.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
806.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
走員其實都會檢討啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
806.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
807.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
合理的配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
807.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
809.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
我們都支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
809.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
811.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
另外剛剛委員提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
811.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
812.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
那個待遇的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
812.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
814.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
其實我們在今年行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
814.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
816.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
其實7月2號有宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
816.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
817.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
我們這次就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
817.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
819.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
鼓勵基層 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
819.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
821.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
所以我們把那個專業態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
821.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
822.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
用定額調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
822.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
823.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
所以書記官會再加兩千 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
823.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
825.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
會再加兩千 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
825.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
826.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
我知道會再加 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
826.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
827.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
我才問到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
827.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
828.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
會再 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
828.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
829.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
829.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
830.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
那我們等著看報到率 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
830.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
832.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
從疊加的基礎上面會再 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
832.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
833.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
你加兩千 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
833.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
834.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
我們等著看報到率 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
834.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
836.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
會基層的 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
836.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
837.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
會到九點九八 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
837.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
838.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
會再上去 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
838.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
839.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
好我們等著看 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
839.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
841.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
當然委員講的很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
841.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
843.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
工作環境也是的確很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
843.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
845.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
我們今年9月我們就會把 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
845.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
847.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
院檢跟警察機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
847.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
848.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
調查機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
848.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
849.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
我們會把他兜在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
849.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
850.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
850.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
851.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
851.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
853.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
也提出一些可以協助的面 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
853.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
854.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
就是工作環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
854.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
855.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
855.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
856.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
其實在司法體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
856.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
857.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
人都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
857.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
858.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
那個行政的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
858.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
860.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
跟他的工作方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
860.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
861.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
跟給他的工具等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
861.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
863.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
其實都一併要去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
863.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
865.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
可能不是單一 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
865.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
866.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
單一的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
866.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
867.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
一個月可以吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
867.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
869.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
就是請麻煩你給我一個書面檢討報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
869.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
870.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
我們會來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
870.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
871.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
司法院這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
871.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
872.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
是不是兩週研議一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
872.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
875.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
你覺得法官跟書記官的配比如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
875.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
876.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
比較能符合現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
876.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
878.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
現在的這個業務量 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
878.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
879.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
給我們一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
879.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
880.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
我們可以自己去規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
880.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
881.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
要一個月可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
881.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
882.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
兩個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
882.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
883.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
好一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
883.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
884.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
法務部就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
884.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
886.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
本次修法檢察官調整原額 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
886.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
887.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
是否足夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
887.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
889.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
也請法務部給我這資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
889.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
890.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
就誠實的告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
890.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
891.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
你們覺得夠不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
891.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
894.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
整體有案司法院法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
894.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
895.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
跟人種的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
895.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
897.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
書記官的記錄費 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
898.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
899.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
夠不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
899.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
901.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
當然你剛剛講了另外一個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
901.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
903.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
你這個怎麼提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
903.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
904.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
我還是回到這幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
904.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
905.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
大家關心的醫療界 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
905.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
906.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
906.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
907.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
大家跑了 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
907.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
908.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
護理師都不見了 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
908.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
909.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
病房都關了 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
909.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
910.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
我們從哪間講一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
910.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
911.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
就是薪資待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
911.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
913.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
有尊嚴的工作環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
913.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
915.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
好那就是請四位 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
915.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
916.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
我等待你們資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
916.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
917.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
一週一個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
917.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
919.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
請給我書面的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
919.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
920.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
920.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
922.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
922.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
923.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2026-08-05T09:20:06+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[0].end |
2026-08-05T09:20:06.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].text |
謝謝主席。 |
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1 |
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陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[1].start |
2026-08-05T09:20:07.222222+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[1].end |
2026-08-05T09:20:13.350000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].text |
請司法院高秘書長、人總副人事長、銓敘部次長及法務部代表。 |
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0.84 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-08-05T09:20:14.857143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2026-08-05T09:20:18.600000+08:00 |
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麻煩這幾位長官到備詢臺，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-08-05T09:20:22.114286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2026-08-05T09:20:23.685714+08:00 |
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四位首長早安。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-08-05T09:20:24.187500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2026-08-05T09:20:29.340000+08:00 |
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麻煩幾位跟我一起看看這幾年來地院的案件量。 |
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0.9 |
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陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-08-05T09:20:29.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-08-05T09:20:40.457143+08:00 |
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過去十一年地方法院民事案件部分，新收案件暴增46%，未結件數暴增154%。 |
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0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-08-05T09:20:41.383333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-08-05T09:20:46.725000+08:00 |
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至於刑事案件部分，未結件數暴增122%。 |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-08-05T09:20:47.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-08-05T09:20:59.022222+08:00 |
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過去平均每件刑事案件所需要天數是66天，現在已經拉長到112天，至於背後的原因，我想各位首長應該能夠理解。 |
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0.864 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-08-05T09:21:00.047059+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-08-05T09:21:15.114286+08:00 |
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接下來我們繼續看地檢署的案件量，新收案件逐年遞增，去年新收案件將近70萬件，未結件數13萬件，案量一直增加，怎麼處理得完呢？ |
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1 |
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陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-08-05T09:21:18.675000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-08-05T09:21:58.500000+08:00 |
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我們再繼續來看，大家大概都清楚，最近幾年地檢署跟法院的案量暴增，不只是書記官過勞，現在還有法警，剛剛幾位委員也提到，他要維持法庭秩序、要押解人犯，他的勤務越來越重，現在的升遷體制根本留不住人，這次司法院提出修法，可是我的辦公室收到很多陳情，基層法警問，為什麼只有法警長跟副法警長的職階是提升的，基層法警承擔了很多工作，職階卻沒有提升，這樣合理嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-08-05T09:21:58.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-08-05T09:22:03.833333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
所以我主張基層法警的職等應該一併提升。 |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-08-05T09:22:05.716667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-08-05T09:22:09.366667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
銓敘部跟司法院是不是能夠先就這個部分回答？ |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-08-05T09:22:09.366667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-08-05T09:22:11.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
我先回答嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-08-05T09:22:11.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-08-05T09:22:15.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
可以，就是基層法警為什麼這次都沒有去改變呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-08-05T09:22:16+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-08-05T09:22:35.153846+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
跟委員報告，因為當初跟銓敘部商量的時候，也是有考慮到剛剛銓敘部所講的那些職等問題，所以就暫時讓法警長，還有他們可以分小隊長先來做，非常謝謝委員…… |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-08-05T09:22:35.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-08-05T09:22:42.150000+08:00 |
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秘書長，我還是希望你針對我的問題回答，因為時間有限，就是為什麼都不動基層法警的職等呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-08-05T09:22:44.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-08-05T09:22:56.409091+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
跟委員報告，有這樣想過，老實說，我們也希望他們能夠提升，所以非常感謝委員能夠在這一次的修法裡面，一併把基層法警…… |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.78 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-08-05T09:22:57.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-08-05T09:22:58.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
你覺得障礙是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-08-05T09:22:58.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-08-05T09:23:01.725000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
基層法警沒有調整的障礙是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-08-05T09:23:01.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-08-05T09:23:13.433333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
當初的障礙只是單純考試列等的關係，考量到這個問題而已，可是就如同委員所說的，基層法警因為案件量增加，工作一定增加，所以……對啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.839 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-08-05T09:23:13.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-08-05T09:23:14.980000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
責任也增加啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-08-05T09:23:15.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-08-05T09:23:17.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
對，當然一定是的，公務內容都增加。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-08-05T09:23:17.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-08-05T09:23:19.714286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
那為什麼沒有考慮到基層法警呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-08-05T09:23:19.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-08-05T09:23:26.136364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
就是剛剛跟委員報告的，當時就考量到考試關係、什麼關係，所以一下子就這樣決定了。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-08-05T09:23:26.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-08-05T09:23:27.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
謝謝委員能夠支持。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-08-05T09:23:28.550000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-08-05T09:23:29.950000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
好，銓敘部有回答嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
懷次長敍 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-08-05T09:23:30.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-08-05T09:23:41.728571+08:00 |
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我跟委員報告，第一個，現行公務員任用法第六條已經規定，每個職等最多是跨二或三職等，現行法警已經是第三職等到第五職等，已經跨了三職等…… |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-08-05T09:23:41.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-08-05T09:23:46.277778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
次長，我明白你講的理由，第一個我要跟你講，有個權理制度不是嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-08-05T09:23:46.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-08-05T09:23:48.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
有個權宜制度你們也在用啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-08-05T09:23:48.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-08-05T09:23:49.283333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
為什麼不能用？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-08-05T09:23:49.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-08-05T09:23:50.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
這是第一個。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-08-05T09:23:50.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-08-05T09:24:01.853846+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
第二個，所有的制度都是人訂的，你要與時俱進，如果人在流失、工作量在增加，你還要保持幾十年前的規定嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-08-05T09:24:02.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-08-05T09:24:02.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
次長，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-08-05T09:24:04.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-08-05T09:24:06.275000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
你們有個權理制度嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-08-05T09:24:08.536364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-08-05T09:24:19.483333+08:00 |
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很多法規為什麼要重修，就是要與時俱進，所以制度是人訂的，我是覺得這個理由不該成為理由，次長，我讓你做個參考。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-08-05T09:24:20.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-08-05T09:24:29.833333+08:00 |
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我們再來看司法院提出的法院組織法附表修正，他修改了法官、檢察官、書記官的員額，但我仔細看，其實問題很大。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-08-05T09:24:30.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-08-05T09:24:57.042857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
以地方法院來說，左邊這張表，第一類的地院，法官加庭長本來最高員額是200人，書記官最高員額是300人，修正草案第一類之(一)，就是案量30萬件以上的法院，法官加庭長最高員額是250人，書記官是375人，法官跟書記官的配比依然是1比1.5，為什麼會這樣呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-08-05T09:24:57.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-08-05T09:25:00.360000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
案量增加，1.5倍夠嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-08-05T09:25:01.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-08-05T09:25:03.357143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
司法院先回答這一點，你覺得這樣夠嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-08-05T09:25:03.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-08-05T09:25:05.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
這個配比夠嗎、合理嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-08-05T09:25:05.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-08-05T09:25:24.140000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
跟委員報告，案量增加，法官跟書記官同時都有負擔，其實就配比來講，夠不夠，我很難講說一定夠，因為書記官工作的增加，老實說我覺得應該要到1.8到2左右，因為我曾經說書記官工作現在幾乎是2倍…… |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-08-05T09:25:24.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-08-05T09:25:26.420000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
你說要應該到多少？1.8到2。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-08-05T09:25:27.380000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-08-05T09:25:28.340000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
1.8到2是理想是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-08-05T09:25:29.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-08-05T09:25:35.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
可是同樣的，老實說不只書記官員額要增加，法官員額也要增加。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.885 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-08-05T09:25:35.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-08-05T09:25:41.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
好，秘書長講的這個，當然表面上是合情、合理，但是你也知道書記官流失很多。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.935 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-08-05T09:25:41.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-08-05T09:25:47.928571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
我再請問你，總員額法有沒有限制你這個處理？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-08-05T09:25:48.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-08-05T09:25:52.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
總員額法本身有沒有限制這個配比？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-08-05T09:25:53.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-08-05T09:25:54.666667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
總員額法本身…… |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-08-05T09:25:54.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-08-05T09:25:55.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
沒有嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-08-05T09:25:56.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:01.686667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
不是，配比不是在總員額法限制，總員額法是限制了我們所有的人數。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:01.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:04.671429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
對，但是我剛剛強調，書記官就是不夠嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:04.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:05.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
對，不夠啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:06.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:09.936364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
很多法官甚至在幫忙書記官，這樣怎麼讓法官好好做事呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:10.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:11.540000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
都有，他們都要互相合作。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:11.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:14.533333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
所以我的重點是，你覺得這個配比合理嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.765 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:14.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:15.860000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
能夠調高，我是非常感謝！ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:17.122222+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:19.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
你就老實說，我就給你支持嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:19.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:22.033333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
你覺得總員額法會不會限制你？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:22.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:24.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
跟委員報告，總員額法是我們的魔咒。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:24.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:25.666667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
好，魔咒，謝謝你。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:26.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:30.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
請問人總，為什麼要限制總員額？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:30.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:42+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
詐騙案這麼多，地檢跟地院都要崩了，書記官累到沒人想做，你繼續砍員額，你是要讓地檢跟法院整個癱瘓掉嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.911 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:42.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:44.225000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
1.5倍顯然就不夠啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:47.820000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:49.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
人總，你們聽到這個說法嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:49.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:51.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
你聽到我談的話嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:51.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:54.314286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
就不夠，你怎麼在學健保那個總額啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:54.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-08-05T09:26:59.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
那個問題出很大，你這裡也在學那個總額制，你要與時俱進啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-08-05T09:26:59.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-08-05T09:27:02.645455+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
跟委員報告，其實在司法員額增加的部分是…… |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.611 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-08-05T09:27:04.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-08-05T09:27:07.780000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
你限制總員額，這件事就是框住他們，就是魔咒啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-08-05T09:27:08.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-08-05T09:27:12.614286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
老實講，今天我支持秘書長，這是魔咒啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-08-05T09:27:12.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-08-05T09:27:16.450000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
現在回到你們身上，這個魔咒要打開。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-08-05T09:27:16.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-08-05T09:27:19.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
我來跟委員做報告…… |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-08-05T09:27:19.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-08-05T09:27:20.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
請簡單說明。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-08-05T09:27:20.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-08-05T09:27:32.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
在各機關近十年員額增減算是比較平盤的狀態底下…… |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-08-05T09:27:32.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-08-05T09:27:33.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
平盤就是沒有增加。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-08-05T09:27:32.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-08-05T09:27:42.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
我們最近十年增加司法機關跟檢察機關員額大概有3,000個左右，2,971個人。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-08-05T09:27:42.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-08-05T09:27:43.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
限制總額也許是個方法，但是不應該持續不改。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-08-05T09:27:42.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-08-05T09:27:47.185714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
司法院大概增加了1,476個，檢察機關增加了1,495個。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.789 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-08-05T09:27:48.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-08-05T09:27:50.746154+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
那個是司改，那個我很清楚，司改的時候，當時你只處理司法院，沒有處理法務部。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.406 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-08-05T09:27:50.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-08-05T09:28:02.718182+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
剛剛提到目前司法機關還在考試分發或遴補中或是未運用的缺額，還有1,119個，檢察機關有478個。 |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-08-05T09:28:02.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-08-05T09:28:08.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
副人事長，我剛剛給你那麼多的數字，總員額的限制你好好聽，我現在跟他們站在一起。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-08-05T09:28:08.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-08-05T09:28:11.525000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
這個不僅是司法院的…… |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-08-05T09:28:11.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-08-05T09:28:21.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
我現在先麻煩司法院，秘書長，請你回去研議要多少比例，以目前的業務量，你認為多少比例是比較恰當的。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.953 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-08-05T09:28:21.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-08-05T09:28:27.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
我完全支持你，請你給我答案，然後我請人總要來思考，好嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-08-05T09:28:27.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-08-05T09:28:28.757143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
這個問題很重要。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-08-05T09:28:28.757143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-08-05T09:28:29.757143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-08-05T09:28:28.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-08-05T09:28:43.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
我現在再請教司法院，我們來看高等法院，現在不是只有地院的問題而已，第一類法庭庭長加法官本來最高480人、書記官488人，修正草案變成了法官360人、書記官368人，為什麼員額變少了？ |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.93 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-08-05T09:28:43.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-08-05T09:28:46.677778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
請你告訴我，為什麼員額變少了呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-08-05T09:28:49.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-08-05T09:28:51.614286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
又是因為總員額法嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-08-05T09:28:51.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-08-05T09:28:52.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
你挪來挪去嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-08-05T09:28:54.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-08-05T09:28:55.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
工作量減少嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-08-05T09:28:56.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-08-05T09:28:59.718182+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
我剛剛已經秀資料了，為什麼這裡是員額變少呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-08-05T09:28:59.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-08-05T09:29:00.809091+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
給我一個很簡單、清楚的理由好嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-08-05T09:29:02.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-08-05T09:29:04.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
其實很簡單…… |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-08-05T09:29:04.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-08-05T09:29:06.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
為什麼變少？ |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-08-05T09:29:06.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-08-05T09:29:15.627273+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
第一個，地院的案件增加得非常快，而高院的案件稍微慢一點…… |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-08-05T09:29:15.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-08-05T09:29:16.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
相對也會增加。 |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-08-05T09:29:16.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-08-05T09:29:23.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
對，相對會增加，但因為它慢，所以我們就保守一點，當然最重要還是總員額，就是這句話。 |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0.943 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-08-05T09:29:23.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-08-05T09:29:24.233333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
好，暫停。 |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-08-05T09:29:25.344444+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-08-05T09:29:49.536364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
麻煩人總副人事長，高院也是要接受全國上訴的案件，你看看右邊，今年1月到6月，民事上訴就6,672件，刑事上訴就1萬4,839件，老實說，大家都過勞了，所以我們今天才談到修法，結果非但不提高整體的員額，還要把員額挪來挪去，像話嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0.89 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-08-05T09:29:49.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-08-05T09:29:51.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
你要這樣卡到什麼時候呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-08-05T09:29:51.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-08-05T09:30:02.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
跟委員報告，剛剛我已經有跟委員報告了，在各機關的總數沒有變動之下，其實司法跟檢察機關我們近十年已經補了3,000個…… |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0.94 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-08-05T09:30:02.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-08-05T09:30:04.677778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
沒有，你上一次挪動是108年。 |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-08-05T09:30:04.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-08-05T09:30:16.718182+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
現在司法體系業務量大的問題，其實大家都看到，大家也一起在解決這個問題，從補充人力、提高待遇，其實剛剛也有委員提到…… |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0.98 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-08-05T09:30:16.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-08-05T09:30:18.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
兩個都要，這跟護理師缺乏一樣嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.643 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-08-05T09:30:18.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-08-05T09:30:19.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
薪資待遇…… |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-08-05T09:30:19.185714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-08-05T09:30:27.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
今天要處理的是提高列等，另外一個，其實我們在5、6月的時候也有到司法院跟檢察機關去…… |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-08-05T09:30:27.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2026-08-05T09:30:32.471429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
副人事長，你就告訴我，你要不要好好檢討一下員額法？ |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-08-05T09:30:32.471429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-08-05T09:30:33.471429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
你好好檢討一下嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-08-05T09:30:32.757143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-08-05T09:30:35.614286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
其實總員額法它有它的機制可以處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
0.688 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-08-05T09:30:36.081818+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-08-05T09:30:50.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
我現在請教法務部代表，我們來看看地檢署，以現在詐騙案量這麼多，有這麼多聲請定執行刑的業務量，請你回答我，這次檢察官、書記官員額所增加的量，你覺得夠嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
0.836 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
張司長曉雯 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-08-05T09:30:50.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-08-05T09:30:51.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
跟委員報告…… |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-08-05T09:30:51.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-08-05T09:30:53.677778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
要不要再想一想，夠嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
張司長曉雯 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-08-05T09:30:53.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-08-05T09:31:02.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
我們當然還是希望司法人員的人數可以增加，因為現在確實在打擊犯罪上，大家都很努力，所以案件量是非常大的。 |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-08-05T09:31:02.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-08-05T09:31:04.718182+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
那有受到總員額影響嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
張司長曉雯 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-08-05T09:31:04.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-08-05T09:31:05.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
當然有。 |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-08-05T09:31:05.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2026-08-05T09:31:08.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
總員額當然有影響！ |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-08-05T09:31:11.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2026-08-05T09:31:33.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
因為今天是司長來，我就當作你是代表部長，你真的要為基層們想一想，到底這樣夠不夠，有什麼障礙跟困難要讓我們知道，大家還是回到總員額量，這簡直是魔咒，我們想辦法把它拆開，也不是大開放，而是要有一個合理的數字。 |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0.859 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-08-05T09:31:33.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2026-08-05T09:31:35.782353+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
我剛剛一開始就努力給你們這麼多的數字。 |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2026-08-05T09:31:36.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2026-08-05T09:31:50.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
我現在再請司法院、法務部及人總看看這個新聞，剛剛吳委員也有提到，今年3月開始書記官的紀錄費由4,700調到6,070元，這個是凍漲28年以後第一次調整。 |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2026-08-05T09:31:50.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2026-08-05T09:32:02.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
可是今年5月媒體報導，以新北來說，缺額71人，才兩個人報到，顯示提升的幅度就是不夠，你現在怎麼處理這件事情？ |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
0.844 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2026-08-05T09:32:02.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[121].end |
2026-08-05T09:32:04.788889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].text |
書記官遠遠不夠，你怎麼處理這個問題？ |
| transcript.gazette[121].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2026-08-05T09:32:07.233333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2026-08-05T09:32:25.685714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].text |
我們對於人才流失，基本上就兩件事，一個是薪資待遇，另一個是工作環境的改善，除了現在我提到的凍漲28年，提高後多了1,300塊之外，你覺得還有其他的方法可以來處理嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[122].quality |
0.812 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2026-08-05T09:32:25.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2026-08-05T09:32:26.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].text |
這樣夠嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[123].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2026-08-05T09:32:27.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[124].end |
2026-08-05T09:32:28.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].text |
絕對不夠！ |
| transcript.gazette[124].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2026-08-05T09:32:28.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2026-08-05T09:32:30.233333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].text |
絕對不夠，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2026-08-05T09:32:30.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2026-08-05T09:32:36.669231+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].text |
對，我們當初希望能夠調高一萬五到兩萬。 |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2026-08-05T09:32:36.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2026-08-05T09:32:38.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
是，差這麼遠！ |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[128].start |
2026-08-05T09:32:38.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[128].end |
2026-08-05T09:32:42.614286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].text |
可是我們也要感謝他們已經提高了。 |
| transcript.gazette[128].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[129].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[129].start |
2026-08-05T09:32:43.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[129].end |
2026-08-05T09:32:46.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].text |
秘書長，你預期明年有多少人會報到？ |
| transcript.gazette[129].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[130].start |
2026-08-05T09:32:46.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[130].end |
2026-08-05T09:32:49.614286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].text |
如果以紀錄費而言，老實說，新北地院…… |
| transcript.gazette[130].quality |
0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[131].start |
2026-08-05T09:32:49.614286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[131].end |
2026-08-05T09:32:50.614286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].text |
一樣慘吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[131].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[132].start |
2026-08-05T09:32:49.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[132].end |
2026-08-05T09:32:55.257143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].text |
我們現在很努力，可是我相信報到率還是會在50％以下。 |
| transcript.gazette[132].quality |
0.864 |
| transcript.gazette[133].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[133].start |
2026-08-05T09:32:55.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[133].end |
2026-08-05T09:32:56.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].text |
還是很慘嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[133].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[134].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[134].start |
2026-08-05T09:32:56.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[134].end |
2026-08-05T09:32:57.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].text |
對，還是會很慘。 |
| transcript.gazette[134].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[135].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[135].start |
2026-08-05T09:32:58.042857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[135].end |
2026-08-05T09:33:05.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].text |
如果你不針對書記官稍微處理，就算調薪……調薪是大家一起調，如果不針對書記官，他還是可以往別處去，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[135].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[136].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[136].start |
2026-08-05T09:33:06.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[136].end |
2026-08-05T09:33:08.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].text |
是，所以希望能夠支持調薪。 |
| transcript.gazette[136].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[137].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[137].start |
2026-08-05T09:33:10.233333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[137].end |
2026-08-05T09:33:16.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].text |
針對這一張投影片的內容，請四位首長代表一個月內回復我，其中有一個是兩週。 |
| transcript.gazette[137].quality |
0.485 |
| transcript.gazette[138].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[138].start |
2026-08-05T09:33:16.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[138].end |
2026-08-05T09:33:23.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].text |
第一個，我請人總還是要針對總員額進行檢討，你好好想一想，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[138].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[139].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[139].start |
2026-08-05T09:33:23.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[139].end |
2026-08-05T09:33:24.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].text |
你要進行檢討！ |
| transcript.gazette[139].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[140].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[140].start |
2026-08-05T09:33:24.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[140].end |
2026-08-05T09:33:29.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].text |
跟委員報告，總員額其實都會檢討，只要是合理的配置，我們都支持。 |
| transcript.gazette[140].quality |
0.704 |
| transcript.gazette[141].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[141].start |
2026-08-05T09:33:29.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[141].end |
2026-08-05T09:33:30.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].text |
我要求具體答復。 |
| transcript.gazette[141].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[142].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[142].start |
2026-08-05T09:33:29.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[142].end |
2026-08-05T09:33:43.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].text |
另外，剛剛委員提到待遇的部分，其實行政院在今年7月2號有宣布，這次就是鼓勵基層，所以把專業加給用定額調整，所以書記官會再加2,000…… |
| transcript.gazette[142].quality |
0.891 |
| transcript.gazette[143].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[143].start |
2026-08-05T09:33:45.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[143].end |
2026-08-05T09:33:47.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].text |
我知道會再加，我才問他…… |
| transcript.gazette[143].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[144].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[144].start |
2026-08-05T09:33:47.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[144].end |
2026-08-05T09:33:50.011111+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].text |
加2,000之後，明年會從疊加的基礎上再加4％。 |
| transcript.gazette[144].quality |
0.118 |
| transcript.gazette[145].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[145].start |
2026-08-05T09:33:50.011111+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[145].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[145].end |
2026-08-05T09:33:50.788889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[145].text |
你加2,000，我們等著看報到率。 |
| transcript.gazette[145].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[146].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[146].start |
2026-08-05T09:33:55.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[146].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[146].end |
2026-08-05T09:33:58.650000+08:00 |
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最基層的會到9.98％，會再上去。 |
| transcript.gazette[146].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[147].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[147].start |
2026-08-05T09:33:58.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[147].end |
2026-08-05T09:33:59.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].text |
好，我們等著看，但是我也請你檢討。 |
| transcript.gazette[147].quality |
0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[148].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[148].start |
2026-08-05T09:34:00.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[148].end |
2026-08-05T09:34:09.788889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].text |
剛剛委員講到很重要的，工作環境也的確很重要，今年9月我們就會把院檢跟警察機關、調查機關兜在一起。 |
| transcript.gazette[148].quality |
0.93 |
| transcript.gazette[149].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[149].start |
2026-08-05T09:34:09.788889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[149].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[149].end |
2026-08-05T09:34:10.788889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[149].text |
人總責任重大！ |
| transcript.gazette[149].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[150].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[150].start |
2026-08-05T09:34:10.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[150].end |
2026-08-05T09:34:17.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].text |
對，我們希望也提出一些可以協助的面，就是工作環境，我想在司法界的人都知道…… |
| transcript.gazette[150].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[151].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[151].start |
2026-08-05T09:34:17.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[151].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[151].end |
2026-08-05T09:34:18.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[151].text |
副人事長，你知道我今天用數據…… |
| transcript.gazette[151].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[152].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[152].start |
2026-08-05T09:34:18.233333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[152].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[152].end |
2026-08-05T09:34:26.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[152].text |
行政的量跟工作方式、給他的工具等等，其實都一定要去處理，可能不是單一的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[152].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[153].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[153].start |
2026-08-05T09:34:26.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[153].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[153].end |
2026-08-05T09:34:27.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[153].text |
不是單一，一個月，可以吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[153].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[154].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[154].start |
2026-08-05T09:34:28.275000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[154].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[154].end |
2026-08-05T09:34:29.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[154].text |
麻煩請你給我一個書面報告。 |
| transcript.gazette[154].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[155].speaker |
張副人事長秋元 |
| transcript.gazette[155].start |
2026-08-05T09:34:29.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[155].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[155].end |
2026-08-05T09:34:30.733333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[155].text |
一定要多管齊下，我們會來協助。 |
| transcript.gazette[155].quality |
0.462 |
| transcript.gazette[156].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[156].start |
2026-08-05T09:34:30.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[156].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[156].end |
2026-08-05T09:34:38.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[156].text |
司法院是不是兩週內研議一下法官跟書記官的配比如何，比較能符合現在的業務量？ |
| transcript.gazette[156].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[157].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[157].start |
2026-08-05T09:34:38.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[157].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[157].end |
2026-08-05T09:34:40.233333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[157].text |
請委員給我們一個月，我們可以仔細…… |
| transcript.gazette[157].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[158].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[158].start |
2026-08-05T09:34:41.066667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[158].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[158].end |
2026-08-05T09:34:41.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[158].text |
一個月？ |
| transcript.gazette[158].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[159].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[159].start |
2026-08-05T09:34:41.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[159].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[159].end |
2026-08-05T09:34:43.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[159].text |
可以，好，改一個月。 |
| transcript.gazette[159].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[160].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[160].start |
2026-08-05T09:34:44.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[160].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[160].end |
2026-08-05T09:34:51.757143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[160].text |
本次修法檢察官調整員額是否足夠，也請法務部給我資料，誠實的告訴我，你們覺得夠不夠？ |
| transcript.gazette[160].quality |
0.973 |
| transcript.gazette[161].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[161].start |
2026-08-05T09:34:51.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[161].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[161].end |
2026-08-05T09:34:59.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[161].text |
至於整體有關司法院、法務部跟人總的部分，書記官的紀錄費，夠不夠？ |
| transcript.gazette[161].quality |
0.821 |
| transcript.gazette[162].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[162].start |
2026-08-05T09:34:59.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[162].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[162].end |
2026-08-05T09:35:03.614286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[162].text |
當然你剛剛講了另外一個數字，但這個怎麼提升？ |
| transcript.gazette[162].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[163].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[163].start |
2026-08-05T09:35:03.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[163].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[163].end |
2026-08-05T09:35:13.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[163].text |
我還是回到這幾年大家關心的醫療界，一堆人跑了，護理師都不見了，病床都關了，不管我們從哪件講起，就是薪資待遇、有尊嚴的工作環境。 |
| transcript.gazette[163].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[164].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[164].start |
2026-08-05T09:35:14.185714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[164].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[164].end |
2026-08-05T09:35:20.566667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[164].text |
那就請四位研議，我等待你們的資料，一個月內請給我書面的資料，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[164].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[165].speaker |
陳委員昭姿 |
| transcript.gazette[165].start |
2026-08-05T09:35:20.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[165].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[165].end |
2026-08-05T09:35:22.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[165].text |
謝謝主席。 |
| transcript.gazette[165].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[166].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[166].start |
2026-08-05T09:35:22.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[166].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[166].end |
2026-08-05T09:35:24.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[166].text |
謝謝陳昭姿委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[166].quality |
0.286 |
| transcript.gazette[167].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[167].start |
2026-08-05T09:35:25.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[167].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[167].end |
2026-08-05T09:35:28.628571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[167].text |
接下來有請吳宗憲委員發言。 |
| transcript.gazette[167].quality |
0 |