| IVOD_ID |
170752 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170752 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
24 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-29T11:46:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-29T11:57:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/271ed4367c1fa464d300824c52ee7f1933d96299fbed69da63df940a37f6647db5955a0c0d9861e65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅明才 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:46:31 - 11:57:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議（事由：審查本院委員王世堅等17人、委員呂玉玲等16人、委員葉元之等17人、委員黃健豪等18人、委員黃健豪等19人、委員賴士葆等18人、委員李彥秀等20人分別擬具「海關進口稅則部分稅則修正草案」等7案。（僅詢答）） |
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主席二人出聯席官員 |
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最後請陳登部 莊部長 還有公務署彭署長 |
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請 莊部長 彭署長 |
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經濟部 周副署長 |
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莊部長你好 時間過得很快 又快到中午了 |
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我記得以前我們大概幾十年的時間 |
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在這邊中午的時間就 雖然開會 |
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但也算開開心心的吃午餐 |
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有胡鬚粽便當 有台鐵的便當 |
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還有青島最著名的雞腿便當 |
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你喜歡吃哪一樣 |
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我很久沒有在這邊吃便當了 |
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對 你有沒有覺得我現在也臉色都青純純 |
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我要出去 在立法院開會也一樣 |
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以前還有多樣性的選擇 |
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現在只有一種選擇 就是燙青菜 |
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上面用醬油鍋 蒜蓉醬油 |
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然後玉米都是蒸的 |
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只要碰到毒油的陰影 什麼都不敢吃 |
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部長 這個油的事情 |
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94 |
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到現在已經水落石出 |
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國人可以安心的吃飯嗎 |
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101 |
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關務署 過去在非洲住恩的時候 |
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在這時候扮演了一個境外 鎮國神山的角色 |
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每一隻豬 死豬 什麼豬進來 |
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通通在境外攔截 |
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所以台灣這幾年好像沒有非洲住恩了吧 |
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我們對於豬肉非常的嚴格的查緝 |
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關務署非常的嚴格 |
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去年曾經在台中有過 |
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也在防疫上做了相當的徹底 |
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有一小段 整體的話 發生這樣的事情 |
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整體還是不錯 |
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現在的討論 那油呢 |
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為什麼油在關務署沒有辦法前面進來的時候 |
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全面就把它擋住 |
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對油這個部分 我想衛福部已經說得很清楚 |
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第一個就是說 廠商在進口的時候 |
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他後續的產製的過程 |
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自己調整了相關的一個規律 |
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然後後面產製的過程當中 |
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又沒有做好相關的一些應該要做的事情 |
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那這個部分說清楚 |
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那海關這個部分對於進口的一些 |
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譬如說黃豆 |
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他們都必須要經過相關的一個檢驗以後 |
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也就是由食藥署跟防檢局檢驗以後 |
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海關才會放行的 |
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所以這有不同的職長 |
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海關有海關的職長 |
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對 所以 檢疫機關有檢疫機關的職長 |
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所以海關也是有一個 |
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他的責任在那個地方 |
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就工作分配上 |
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那我請問一下彭署長 |
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194 |
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197 |
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那 截至目前為止 |
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197 |
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199 |
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國內的油到底有沒有毒啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
199 |
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201 |
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能不能吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
203 |
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205 |
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我都有在吃 報告委 |
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205 |
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208 |
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你都有在吃 我吃到不敢吃了 |
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208 |
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210 |
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有人說已經四個月了 |
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210 |
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212 |
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甚至還有提到說是 |
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212 |
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216 |
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其實四年前就發生有這個毒油的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
216 |
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218 |
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通通蓋牌 |
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219 |
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223 |
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那署長你身為第一線的從業人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
223 |
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225 |
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當然我知道責任不在你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
225 |
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228 |
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最主要是另外兩個其他的單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
228 |
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230 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
你不會想到 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
230 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
233 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
對於自己安全健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
233 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
236 |
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會有很大的威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
236 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
239 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
你會不會 你們家有沒有家人 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
239 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
240 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
240 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
241 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
241 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
243 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
你家裡有家裡有沒有小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
243 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
244 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
244 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
248 |
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你不會在每天在外食 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
248 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
250 |
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吃便當的時候想到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
250 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
255 |
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那家裡的小孩如果每天都吃這個毒食毒油 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
255 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
258 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
會影響到他們一輩子的健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
258 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
259 |
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是 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
259 |
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260 |
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你不會怕嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
260 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
263 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
報告委員 那政府機關對於食品安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
263 |
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266 |
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一定會落實去執行 嚴格的執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
266 |
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269 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
這是不會妥協的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
269 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
271 |
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是 你講得很漂亮 |
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271 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
277 |
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可是你能保證我們現在外面每一頓吃午餐外食足 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
277 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
280 |
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可以吃的都沒問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
280 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
285 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
就是今天我在台灣吃這些美食 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
285 |
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288 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
或到路邊攤去吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
288 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
292 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
你可以保證我不會吃到毒油嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
292 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
294 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
294 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
295 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
295 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
296 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
297 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
300 |
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報告委員 要我保證 |
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300 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
302 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
302 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
304 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
那好 你不能保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
304 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
306 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
可是因為大家都覺得你是海關 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
306 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
309 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
你第一線你如果都攔截下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
309 |
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311 |
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就不會有毒油流進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
311 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
316 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
跟委員報告 這一次毒油事件應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
316 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
319 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
不是發生在進口端的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
319 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
323 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
據衛福部他們的調查報告應該是在製程的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
323 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
324 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
製程 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
324 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
331 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
從第一天開始就是在隨便甩鍋給巴西 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
331 |
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334 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
巴西的黃豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
334 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
336 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
其他也不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
336 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
339 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
現在有此一說是製程出了問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
339 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
343 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
因為國內的油進來就是兩中 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
343 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
347 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
一個大統一 佔百分之多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
347 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
348 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
國內的油 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
348 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
350 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
那個金部知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
350 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
351 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
副市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
351 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
353 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
跟委員報告 50% |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
353 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
355 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
另外一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
355 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
357 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
中聯35% |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
357 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
359 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
35% |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
359 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
362 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
那你應該進來的源頭就把它管制好 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
362 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
365 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
結果現在他剛講說是製程 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
365 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
367 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
兩個製程不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
367 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
371 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
跟委員報告 這個當然從美國跟巴西的大豆來源不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
371 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
373 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
它的品質也不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
373 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
378 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
雖然不同但是可以透過製程的方式來去做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
378 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
382 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
那針對昨天衛福部食藥署的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
382 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
385 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
針對不管是豆子的來源也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
385 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
387 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
或者是製程的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
387 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
390 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
其實都有一些它相關的問題存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
390 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
393 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
那我們就從製程來說好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
393 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
397 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
大統一它用的是法國的機器 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
397 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
400 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
所以它是用真空抽取的 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
400 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
401 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
是安全的 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
401 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
405 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
現在問題就是出在中聯的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
405 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
408 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
它佔了市場35% |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
408 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
409 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
但是你知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
409 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
411 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
以前我們都講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
411 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
415 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
四斤黃豆換一斤油 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
415 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
420 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
結果它現在因為公益的投機取巧 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
420 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
425 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
變成三斤的黃豆就要榨出一斤的油 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
425 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
427 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
問題出在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
429 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
432 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
大豆其實是會酸的 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
432 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
437 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
那酸它為了要省成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
437 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
就加入了化學的鹼性酸鹼中和 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
445 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
所以那個漏斗下來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
445 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
449 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
中和了以後可能5%還是10%的油 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
449 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
451 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
它就把它漏掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
451 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
455 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
可是為什麼三斤的黃豆變一斤的油 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
455 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
456 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
就是很簡單嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
456 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
459 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
鹼多加一點鹼性 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
459 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
461 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
這些化學品多加了一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
461 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
463 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
所以變成加了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
463 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
467 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
改變你一稍微有狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
467 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
471 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
那個毒油的本田皮就跑出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
471 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
474 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
你可能比較清楚是不是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
474 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
475 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
475 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
477 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
這個部分並沒有那麼清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
477 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
481 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
因為整個調查報告是由衛福部這邊來負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
481 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
483 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
那檢調已經進入了 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
483 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
487 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
所以我們經濟部這邊是沒有進到場內去做調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
487 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
489 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
好啦我覺得你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
489 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
491 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
大家速度要快一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
491 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
494 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
到現在時不安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
494 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
495 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
現在很多外國的朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
495 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
498 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
以前都台灣是美食美食王國 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
498 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
501 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
現在進來也不敢吃啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
501 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
506 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
你看那個黃仁勳最近都沒有去夜市啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
506 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
507 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
揣咧丹 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
507 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
吃這麼多豬排也不能吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
515 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
害我現在如果再這一萬點 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
515 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
517 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
每一萬點我們再吃雞排 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
517 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
520 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
我現在想的都想要吐出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
520 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
523 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
真的啦這個食品安全的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
523 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
525 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
人人有責 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
525 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
527 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
經濟部也想想辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
527 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
529 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
你們幫幫忙嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
529 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
你們要有一些製造的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
535 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
去了解要看看是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
535 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
537 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
另外再請一下莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
539 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
540 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
那也請 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
540 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
544 |
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我在這個事是跟莊部長沒有直接的關係 |
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544 |
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547 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
但我覺得在海關的部分 |
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547 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
548 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
能做 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
548 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
550 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
有沒有辦法來 |
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550 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
來源的部分 |
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552 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
最近要多加強管理 |
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554 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
556 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
海關他有他的職長 |
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556 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
560 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
當然他也會根據各個貨品的主管機關的要求 |
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560 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
563 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
然後由各主管機關該查驗的查驗該檢疫的檢疫 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
563 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
565 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
不合規定的海關就不會放行 |
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565 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
570 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
上次說發芽的馬鈴薯要一顆一顆檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
570 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
572 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
現在真的有這樣檢查嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
572 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
576 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
這個部分應該是屬於農業部這邊在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
576 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
農業部這邊在做處理嘛 |
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578 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
580 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
是在農業部那邊做處理 |
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580 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
582 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
農業部都跟海關沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
582 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
584 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
進來不都是海關第一關 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
584 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
主長各有分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
590 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
好來你們能提供一些多年的寶貴經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
590 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
592 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
站在國民的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
592 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
594 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
你們一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
594 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
596 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
酸井羅斯 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
596 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
600 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
然後多多給予建言好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
600 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
602 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
是的謝謝委員指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
602 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
604 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
另外一個就是 |
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604 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
609 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
看到最近的股市暴起暴落 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
609 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
611 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
那最近一直跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
611 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
614 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
現在好像跌破四萬點 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
614 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
618 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
部長為什麼股市會跌跌不休 |
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618 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
622 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
因為美股還有日韓股也都下跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
622 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
625 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
然後對有一些不確定的預期 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
625 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
629 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
所以會有下跌的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
629 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
633 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
我覺得台灣的股市也好韓國的股市也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
633 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
636 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
街上大概都是變成割韭菜 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
636 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
639 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
因為我大概十幾天前 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
639 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
643 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
就美國的花雅街的那個消息 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
643 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
645 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
他們就偷偷有個訊息說 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
645 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
647 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
全部要賣股票 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
647 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
650 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
而且他們這個一致性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
650 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
652 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
你發現一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
652 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
655 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
他這個所謂股市的上漲下跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
655 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
657 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
這一次的歷史經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
657 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
660 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
真正發動炒股的是美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
660 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
663 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
美國的聲音你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
663 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
665 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
我自己要跟你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
665 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
667 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
謝謝 |