| IVOD_ID |
170749 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170749 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
24 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-29T11:16:54+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-29T11:29:14+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:20 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/271ed4367c1fa464a2ee77e4b924cca133d96299fbed69da63df940a37f6647d5fafcff08c5e5b495ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王世堅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:16:54 - 11:29:14 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議（事由：審查本院委員王世堅等17人、委員呂玉玲等16人、委員葉元之等17人、委員黃健豪等18人、委員黃健豪等19人、委員賴士葆等18人、委員李彥秀等20人分別擬具「海關進口稅則部分稅則修正草案」等7案。（僅詢答）） |
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謝謝主席 我請莊部長 |
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13 |
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請莊部長 |
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21 |
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委員好 |
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22 |
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莊部長 辛苦了 |
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不過我看了這份報告後 |
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27 |
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我才頓然發現說 |
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30 |
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我們財政部 |
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35 |
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41 |
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居然自認為是經濟部的小弟就對了 |
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41 |
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43 |
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今天這麼重大的 |
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44 |
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48 |
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關於關稅的這個大家的討論 |
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49 |
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55 |
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經濟部只派了一位產業發展署副署長來 |
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55 |
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這個不打緊喔 |
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57 |
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59 |
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部長 這完全不對稱 |
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59 |
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60 |
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你是部長 |
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64 |
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他派個副署長來不打緊 |
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你看在這一份報告 |
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69 |
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你們的這一份財政部 |
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69 |
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71 |
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以你具名 |
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71 |
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73 |
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部長具名的報告裡面 |
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73 |
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77 |
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你們全部在幫經濟部講話 |
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78 |
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80 |
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曾幾何時 |
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80 |
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81 |
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何時 |
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81 |
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85 |
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財政部在關稅這一部分的討論 |
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86 |
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90 |
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竟然當經濟部的稅喊就對了 |
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91 |
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93 |
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叫他話來話去 |
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94 |
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97 |
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我現在跟你正式提案的 |
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97 |
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99 |
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包括我 |
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99 |
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101 |
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我們今天總共 |
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101 |
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104 |
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有七位委員先前 |
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104 |
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108 |
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這兩年多來針對關稅的提案 |
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109 |
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111 |
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我的最徹底 |
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111 |
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114 |
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我認為進口車關稅就是降到零 |
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114 |
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117 |
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所以你們第一筆就完全針對我 |
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117 |
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121 |
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你們這個正式的財政部的報告裡面 |
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121 |
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124 |
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就這三頁 |
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124 |
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128 |
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就這三頁的報告裡面 |
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129 |
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133 |
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等於有一整頁都通通在談我的這個事情 |
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133 |
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135 |
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說我降到零這個嚴重性 |
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135 |
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136 |
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好 |
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136 |
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138 |
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我先從 |
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139 |
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141 |
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經濟部你們的老大哥 |
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141 |
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143 |
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他講的 |
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143 |
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144 |
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他說 |
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144 |
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146 |
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汽車關稅如果 |
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146 |
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147 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
縱降 |
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147 |
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150 |
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甚至像我說的降到零 |
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150 |
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152 |
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他說會讓 |
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152 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
156 |
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我們國產車的製造者 |
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156 |
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159 |
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這些廠商會撤離 |
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159 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
161 |
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他說影響啊 |
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161 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
162 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
講啊 |
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162 |
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164 |
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先前 |
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164 |
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166 |
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第一次他來報告的時候 |
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166 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
168 |
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他說影響十幾萬人 |
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168 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
169 |
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我糾正他以後 |
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169 |
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172 |
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他今天把這個數字降了 |
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172 |
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174 |
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他降到我講的實際數字 |
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174 |
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177 |
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他說八萬多人 |
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177 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
179 |
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但是 |
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179 |
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180 |
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部長 |
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180 |
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182 |
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我上次就講了啊 |
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182 |
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185 |
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其實影響到的 |
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185 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
187 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
我們國內的汽車製造業者 |
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187 |
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189 |
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你要分兩大部分 |
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189 |
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192 |
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一個部分是整車的業者 |
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192 |
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那個部分才一萬一千人 |
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195 |
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199 |
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最重要的是我們的零組件 |
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199 |
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203 |
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零組件將近八萬多人的從業人員裡面 |
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203 |
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208 |
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人家我們的零組件超強的 |
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208 |
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211 |
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我們在出口光是到美國的就好 |
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211 |
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214 |
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我們出口到美國的產品裡面 |
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214 |
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217 |
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我們台灣製造的產品裡面 |
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217 |
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220 |
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出口的第十大 |
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220 |
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223 |
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就是我們的汽車零組件 |
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223 |
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228 |
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我們汽車零組件每一年的產值多少 |
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228 |
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231 |
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我們零組件 |
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231 |
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236 |
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高達一千三百二十九億一年 |
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236 |
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239 |
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我們的汽車零組件一年 |
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239 |
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242 |
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高達一千三百二十九億的出口 |
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242 |
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246 |
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完全不會受進口 |
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246 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
251 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
進口車關稅降到零的任何影響 |
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251 |
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254 |
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甚至我們會更強 |
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254 |
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256 |
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不是嗎 |
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256 |
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259 |
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所以經濟部的那個講法 |
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259 |
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263 |
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完全胡說八道 |
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263 |
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266 |
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我不怪經濟部那種講法啦 |
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266 |
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270 |
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本來經濟部就是比較天馬行空嘛 |
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270 |
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273 |
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但是你財政部不一樣耶 |
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273 |
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276 |
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財政部是很務實的 |
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276 |
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279 |
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每一毛錢我們都要去算稅金 |
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279 |
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281 |
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不是這樣嗎 |
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281 |
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285 |
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你給我們的數字都是最詳實 |
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285 |
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288 |
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而且最確切的嘛 |
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288 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
292 |
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經濟部本來他去想政策一些發展 |
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292 |
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297 |
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本來他就會比較這種活潑式的 |
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297 |
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299 |
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幻想式的 |
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299 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
300 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
這個我不怪他 |
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300 |
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303 |
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但是他不對的部分 |
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303 |
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305 |
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你要糾正他 |
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305 |
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307 |
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不是這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
307 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
310 |
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怎麼你可以把他錯誤的部分 |
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310 |
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314 |
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我上次質詢都已經糾正過他的 |
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314 |
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317 |
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結果那個錯誤數字 |
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317 |
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320 |
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你又把他灌到這一次的報告裡面 |
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320 |
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325 |
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所以你說要把進口車關稅降到零 |
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325 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
326 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
你說萬萬不可 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
326 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
333 |
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因為那個你說孔佑國產車相繼撤離之餘 |
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333 |
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337 |
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影響約847元的產值 |
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337 |
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341 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
及8.26萬位從業人員生計 |
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341 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
343 |
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我就說這個數字是錯的 |
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343 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
346 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
8.26萬是我上次糾正過他 |
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346 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
348 |
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他倒正了 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
348 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
350 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
他本來說十幾萬 |
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350 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
351 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
現在說8.26萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
351 |
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353 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
但是我要跟你說 |
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353 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
357 |
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這些零組件8.26萬位從業人員 |
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357 |
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360 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
人家他們工作很勤奮 |
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360 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
364 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
他的工作完全不受影響 |
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364 |
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368 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
影響的是像裕隆那個 |
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368 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
370 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
我們保護他70幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
370 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
373 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
這個阿斗保護他70幾年了 |
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373 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
378 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
我們還要保護這個阿斗保護多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
378 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
381 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
他也不失本業的發展 |
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381 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
385 |
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他也跑去做租賃啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
385 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
386 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
地下的錢莊 |
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386 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
388 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
有盤的地下的錢莊 |
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388 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
391 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
最大的就是他們耶 |
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391 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
394 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
我們還要再保護他什麼 |
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394 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
397 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
那你說你又說啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
397 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
400 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
這一點是我們自己財政部的理由 |
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400 |
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402 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
這個我接受 |
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402 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
405 |
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你說這個關稅300多億 |
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405 |
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407 |
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但是才300多億 |
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407 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
410 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
你在報告裡面把它寫到說 |
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410 |
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413 |
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這個不得了這個稅金是400多億 |
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413 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
415 |
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你給我你這個報告裡面的數字 |
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415 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
420 |
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是說進稅損523億至601億 |
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420 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
423 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
336億的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
423 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
425 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
你們膨脹到500多億 |
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425 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
原因是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
431 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
你把進口車的貨物稅也算進去耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
431 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
434 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
進口車我們的提案 |
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434 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
437 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
我的其他委員的寶貴的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
437 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
438 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
438 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
440 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
只是說降關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
440 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
進口車一樣要收貨物稅啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
447 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
他現在進口的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
447 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
449 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
多少付貨物稅以後照說 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
449 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
453 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
以後降了關稅進口的量大增 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
453 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
455 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
進口增加多少量 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
455 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
458 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
我們照收那些貨物稅啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
458 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
461 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
所以沒有貨物稅的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
461 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
463 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
我們談的是關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
463 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
465 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
所以我再一次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
465 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
467 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
進口車關稅降到零 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
467 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
473 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
這是還我們全國所有車輛消費者 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
473 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
476 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
還他們一個公道 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
476 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
479 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
讓大家能夠跟全世界各國的人一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
479 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
485 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
享用價廉物美的這個國外的車輛 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
485 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
487 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
大家一起來評比嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
487 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
488 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
488 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
491 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
那至於說會不會影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
491 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
493 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
我們國內汽車產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
493 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
495 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
我就是跟你說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
495 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
497 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
90%不影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
497 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
500 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
因為我們90%是零主建 |
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500 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
502 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
我們的零主建 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
502 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
507 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
我們從車燈離合器變速箱氣囊 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
507 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
510 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
我們這一些都是世界各國 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
510 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
尤其先進國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
514 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
他們都熱切希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
514 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
517 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
熱切從我們台灣出口 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
517 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
520 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
進口到他們國家去的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
520 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
521 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
521 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
523 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
產業的不受影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
523 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
524 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
我希望部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
524 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
529 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
你要這個鼓起勇氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
529 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
大聲的跟經濟部說 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
533 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
你講的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
533 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
538 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
你要我財政部代你發言的這一些裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
538 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
541 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
有很多是謬誤的 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
541 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
543 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
你要大聲跟他這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
543 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
545 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
然後你針對財稅的 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
545 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
549 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
你來跟我們所有的提案的委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
549 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
你要這樣關稅這個是影響多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
553 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
這個我們來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
553 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
557 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
但是不要把整個產業說 |
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557 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
561 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
他們會從我們國內消失會撤離 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
561 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
563 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
會影響多少從業人員 |
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563 |
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567 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
這個部分是他們經濟部 |
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567 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
570 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
一個錯誤虛幻的想法 |
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570 |
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573 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
這個部分大家要理清楚好不好 |
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573 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
574 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
部長你的看法 |
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574 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
576 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
謝謝委員的指教 |
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576 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
我想在這裡面有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
580 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
經濟部和財政部基本上 |
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580 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
582 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
我們都是行政團隊的議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
582 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
584 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
我們各有職長 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
584 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
587 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
那在海關這個部分的關稅 |
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587 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
588 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
當然有海關進口稅則的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
588 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
589 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
那他怎麼規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
589 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
591 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
但是關稅裡面除了稅收之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
591 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
592 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
還有很重要一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
592 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
595 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
國內產業的相關的一些影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
595 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
597 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
那國內產業的相關影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
597 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
600 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
目前他的主管機關就是經濟部 |
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600 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
602 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
那至於他的數字等等這個部分 |
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602 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
605 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
我相信我們今天的經濟部代表也在現場 |
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605 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
608 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
那他也都會聽到委員的指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
608 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
610 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
部長我剛剛講的這些數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
610 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
612 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
他否認嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
612 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
615 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
那個產業署是不是 |
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615 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
617 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
副署長我講的這些數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
617 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
620 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
我說我們的零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
620 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
625 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
零組件占我們國內汽車業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
625 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
630 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
將近九成內這個產銷的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
630 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
632 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
這個你否認嗎 |
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632 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
635 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
那進口車關稅降到零 |
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635 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
638 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
或者降低不管降到多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
638 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
641 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
會影響我們國內的零組件嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
641 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
642 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
你認為呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
642 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
644 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
零組件的部分確實也會受影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
644 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
647 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
跟委員報告我們國內的汽車零組件產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
647 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
649 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
大概有超過兩成的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
649 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
652 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
還是用在國產車上面 |
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652 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
655 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
那當然您剛才所提的這個出口的部分 |
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655 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
657 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
確實也接近八成左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
658 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
666 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
光這八成遠高於我們國內其他整車業者的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
666 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
671 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
我們高達一千三百二十九億輸往美國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
671 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
674 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
不過內銷的這些零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
674 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
677 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
還是有七八百億的產值 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
677 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
679 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
679 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
681 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
你把那個提供給我看 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
681 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
683 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
我有出口的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
683 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
686 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
你說我們自己國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
686 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
689 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
內銷的七八百億 |
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689 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
691 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
你把這個金額提供給我看 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
691 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
693 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
693 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
695 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
我們零組件業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
695 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
696 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
八萬五千人 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
696 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
699 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
這一次你們有接受我上次質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
699 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
700 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
你們有更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
700 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
702 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
你就看你們上一次經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
702 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
704 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
委託財政部的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
704 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
706 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
還有經濟部正式出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
706 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
712 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
說會影響我們汽車業者十幾萬從業人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
712 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
713 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
你們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
713 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
714 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
四個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
714 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
715 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
抱歉後主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
715 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
716 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
四個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
716 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
718 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
經濟部那個說法是四個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
718 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
720 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
危言聳聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
722 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
724 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
另外四個字我就不講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
724 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
725 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
因為我剛剛已經講過 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
725 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
727 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
胡說八道 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
728 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
729 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
跟委員更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
729 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
730 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
是六百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
730 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
732 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
國內的產值 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
732 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
734 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
你把數字給我看 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
734 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
735 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
735 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
739 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
美國的一千三百二十九億我們輸給過去 |