iVOD / 170743

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IVOD_ID 170743
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170743
日期 2026-07-29
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-15-20
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 20
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 15
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 內政委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-07-29T10:16:20+08:00
結束時間 2026-07-29T10:29:07+08:00
影片長度 00:12:47
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 王美惠
委員發言時間 10:16:20 - 10:29:07
會議時間 2026-07-29T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 (變更議程)立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議(事由:一、邀請大陸委員會主任委員、內政部部長、法務部、警政署、移民署、財團法人海峽交流基金會就「國人赴陸失聯情況及政府因應作為」進行專題報告,並備質詢。 二、邀請內政部部長、警政署署長就「『萊爾校長』小編遭警突襲查水表事件,檢視警察執法標準與行政中立」進行專題報告,並備質詢。)
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 要注意,因為有很多失憶
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 在這個過程當中
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 我覺得你們兩個單位
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 做什麼,真的會讓我害怕,不知道
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 因為尤其最近
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 也有我們中華民國台灣的人
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 去中國
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 不管他是出頭也好
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 去欺負、做生意也好
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 因為在這個過程當中
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 我覺得你們的所作所為
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 讓白色認為我們台灣的人沒藝
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 到平常他還在大陸做生意
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 半天四個月就要回來
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 但是在這個過程當中
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 他很在本色跟你討論的時候
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 已經一天沒看人了
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 結果他們的訴求
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 他們的拜託
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 我們的政府單位
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 是不是可以來找呢
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 委員,你說的這
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 大陸的風險,警官
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transcript.whisperx[24].text 還有幾乎所有的委員、服務處
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 都會接到許多
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 這個賦互私聯的案子
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transcript.whisperx[27].text 然後他們的家屬都很緊張
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transcript.whisperx[28].text 以前他們家屬很緊張的,對不對
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 他就是煩惱
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transcript.whisperx[30].text 這次你覺得要怎麼做才有辦法
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transcript.whisperx[31].text 去家屬說
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transcript.whisperx[32].text 你們什麼人現在沒錢絕對
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transcript.whisperx[33].text 委員,你們如果接到這種案子
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transcript.whisperx[34].text 來上來我們海基會陸委會都可以
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transcript.whisperx[35].text 我們兩個單位會去關心他們家裡狀況
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 會去關懷訪視
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 如果有需要的話
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transcript.whisperx[38].text 我們也會接受
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 董事長主委
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transcript.whisperx[40].text 警政署的同仁一起前往
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transcript.whisperx[41].text 我覺得說得很好聽
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transcript.whisperx[42].text 做個會笑死人
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transcript.whisperx[43].text 你不知道這件案子
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transcript.whisperx[44].text 委員你們怎麼回答都不知道
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transcript.whisperx[45].text 你不知道吧
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transcript.whisperx[46].text 委員你說案子
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transcript.whisperx[47].text 我們給他們的消息就是
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transcript.whisperx[48].text 我們兩岸又沒做好朋友
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transcript.whisperx[49].text 所有直接的過程也難找
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transcript.whisperx[50].text 董事長、主委
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transcript.whisperx[51].text 我覺得我們要救人
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transcript.whisperx[52].text 不分什麼東派
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transcript.whisperx[53].text 也不分他是什麼黨的
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transcript.whisperx[54].text 這次他到中央委員
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transcript.whisperx[55].text 一直在中國做生意
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transcript.whisperx[56].text 整個過年都沒辦法聯絡
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transcript.whisperx[57].text 也不知道為什麼
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transcript.whisperx[58].text 你給我們的反應
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transcript.whisperx[59].text 我們兩岸沒做好朋友
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transcript.whisperx[60].text 這樣就算了
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transcript.whisperx[61].text 我覺得這樣是很失敗
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transcript.whisperx[62].text 委員不可能是這樣
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transcript.whisperx[63].text 可能這樣
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transcript.whisperx[64].text 這個案件我來向你請教
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transcript.whisperx[65].text 一定案件給你
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transcript.whisperx[66].text 結果到現在
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transcript.whisperx[67].text 你說我們跟國元沒辦法對抗
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transcript.whisperx[68].text 你也可以拜託現有的在那邊做生意
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transcript.whisperx[69].text 在那邊吃頭髮
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transcript.whisperx[70].text 我們有多元管道
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transcript.whisperx[71].text 我們在報告都有寫
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transcript.whisperx[72].text 委員你案件給我們我們來處理
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transcript.whisperx[73].text 主委報告都有寫
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transcript.whisperx[74].text 我們不是要寫給你看
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transcript.whisperx[75].text 我們不是要寫要怎麼解決
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transcript.whisperx[76].text 大家也知道台中對我們沒什麼
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transcript.whisperx[77].text 如果去台中給他
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transcript.whisperx[79].text 還做保護
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transcript.whisperx[80].text 雖然他跟我們沒辦法
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transcript.whisperx[81].text 也不說我們有辦法
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transcript.whisperx[83].text 他有要分什麼黨
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transcript.whisperx[85].text 委員你說案件非常重要
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transcript.whisperx[88].text 這一定發生幾個月
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transcript.whisperx[89].text 要不要交給你們
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transcript.whisperx[90].text 一直要做幹部交給你們
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transcript.whisperx[91].text 這樣喔
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transcript.whisperx[92].text 我們有聽到
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transcript.whisperx[93].text 來請
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transcript.whisperx[94].text 委員
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transcript.whisperx[96].text 到底總共如何
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transcript.whisperx[97].text 我會再詢詢
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transcript.whisperx[99].text 白色去那邊吃頭髮
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transcript.whisperx[100].text 去那邊做生意
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transcript.whisperx[101].text 因為他想要生存
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transcript.whisperx[102].text 他想要賺錢
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transcript.whisperx[103].text 結果你看看
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transcript.whisperx[104].text 他來頂一個民國法律
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transcript.whisperx[105].text 來解決這個問題
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transcript.whisperx[106].text 哪一般的白色呢
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transcript.whisperx[107].text 這個
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transcript.whisperx[108].text 特別跟你們報告
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transcript.whisperx[109].text 其實從過去一年半
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transcript.whisperx[110].text 十八個月來
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transcript.whisperx[111].text 我們接獲通報多少失蹤案件
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transcript.whisperx[112].text 一共225件
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transcript.whisperx[115].text 到現在為止
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transcript.whisperx[117].text 那有60%134件
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transcript.whisperx[118].text 我們追蹤到
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transcript.whisperx[119].text 追蹤到有一些他回到台灣
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transcript.whisperx[121].text 這是數字
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transcript.whisperx[122].text 各個案件的狀況不一樣
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transcript.whisperx[123].text 我特別跟你講一個案件
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transcript.whisperx[124].text 今年這三個月
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transcript.whisperx[125].text 宗教案件
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transcript.whisperx[126].text 因為宗教信仰被拘留的
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transcript.whisperx[127].text 在我們這兩年來
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transcript.whisperx[128].text 19個案件中有9件
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transcript.whisperx[129].text 那你說危險
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transcript.whisperx[130].text 很危險
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transcript.whisperx[131].text 三個月
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transcript.whisperx[132].text 激增了50%
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transcript.whisperx[133].text 那你提到
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transcript.whisperx[134].text 我為什麼講宗教案件
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transcript.whisperx[135].text 宗教案件中包含
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transcript.whisperx[136].text 你剛剛講的
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transcript.whisperx[137].text 長期在中國經營
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transcript.whisperx[138].text 事業的商人
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transcript.whisperx[139].text 已經很久了
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transcript.whisperx[140].text 現在被抓
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transcript.whisperx[141].text 也有去旅行的被抓
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transcript.whisperx[142].text 也有去做文化交流的被抓
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transcript.whisperx[143].text 很多
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transcript.whisperx[144].text 甚至還有
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transcript.whisperx[145].text 不在這19個案件中
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transcript.whisperx[146].text 家屬沒有陳情
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transcript.whisperx[147].text 可是我們得到資料的
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transcript.whisperx[148].text 是在那邊長期教書的
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transcript.whisperx[149].text 也被抓
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transcript.whisperx[150].text 我特別跟你講
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transcript.whisperx[151].text 那經商在那邊
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transcript.whisperx[153].text 風險非常高
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transcript.whisperx[154].text 所以宗教案件
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transcript.whisperx[156].text 附錄是橘色警示
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transcript.whisperx[157].text 海基會立場
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transcript.whisperx[158].text 就我個人看來
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transcript.whisperx[159].text 更如同紅色警戒
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transcript.whisperx[160].text 所以說
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transcript.whisperx[161].text 一看到根本就是
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transcript.whisperx[162].text 紅色警戒
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transcript.whisperx[163].text 海基會在多次
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transcript.whisperx[164].text 已經兩年來
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transcript.whisperx[165].text 不斷重複
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transcript.whisperx[166].text 告訴一貫道道親朋友
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transcript.whisperx[167].text 信眾
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transcript.whisperx[168].text 不管什麼原因
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transcript.whisperx[169].text 不要去
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transcript.whisperx[171].text 這三年來
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transcript.whisperx[174].text 嚴重
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transcript.whisperx[175].text 那其他中國經商的
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transcript.whisperx[176].text 在那邊很辛苦
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transcript.whisperx[177].text 很危險
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transcript.whisperx[178].text 各種案件都可以
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transcript.whisperx[179].text 可能稅
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transcript.whisperx[182].text 各種樣態都有
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transcript.whisperx[183].text 你剛才講的其中一個樣態
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transcript.whisperx[185].text 到底怎麼做
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transcript.whisperx[186].text 怎麼幫助他們
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transcript.whisperx[187].text 像特別說
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transcript.whisperx[188].text 因為
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transcript.whisperx[189].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[191].text 本社要向你們探討的就是說
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transcript.whisperx[193].text 怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[194].text 我是不愛有跌倒的
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transcript.whisperx[195].text 在這四百多個
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transcript.whisperx[196].text 兩百多個
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transcript.whisperx[201].text 跟你說
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transcript.whisperx[203].text 教那些人辦事
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transcript.whisperx[204].text 做詐騙集團
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transcript.whisperx[205].text 這就是不好的
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transcript.whisperx[207].text 他們家怕說這個人沒去
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transcript.whisperx[208].text 我們也依情依理
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transcript.whisperx[209].text 要去那裡認識說
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transcript.whisperx[210].text 因為這個人現在到哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[211].text 完全都不知道
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transcript.whisperx[212].text 我說你們不知道
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transcript.whisperx[213].text 也可以拜託東地的台商
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transcript.whisperx[214].text 很多管道可以找
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transcript.whisperx[215].text 可是到現在
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transcript.whisperx[216].text 你們只有發覺說
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transcript.whisperx[217].text 因為我們家的沒通
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transcript.whisperx[219].text 我們有方法
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transcript.whisperx[221].text 包括剛才你所說的
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transcript.whisperx[222].text 台商的協會
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transcript.whisperx[225].text 其實每個個案
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transcript.whisperx[234].text 這要立即通報
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transcript.whisperx[247].text 第12條規定該通報就通報
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transcript.whisperx[263].text 最好不要去
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transcript.whisperx[268].text 信仰道清
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transcript.whisperx[271].text 絕對不要去
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transcript.whisperx[272].text 對啦
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transcript.whisperx[274].text 就是說
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transcript.whisperx[276].text 雖然愛認真愛保佑
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transcript.whisperx[300].text 做生意也好
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transcript.whisperx[301].text 都已經在這裡了
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transcript.whisperx[306].text 兩句話而已
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transcript.whisperx[313].text 還有提供更多的資訊給我們
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transcript.whisperx[323].text 人們說
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transcript.whisperx[324].text 跟你們說
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transcript.whisperx[325].text 所以沒辦法讓你回來
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transcript.whisperx[326].text 這種的謠言很多
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transcript.whisperx[327].text 各位
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transcript.whisperx[328].text 大家如果可以
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transcript.whisperx[329].end 720
transcript.whisperx[329].text 跟中華民國的台灣
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transcript.whisperx[330].text 做生意一條路
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transcript.whisperx[331].end 723
transcript.whisperx[331].text 大家都願意
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transcript.whisperx[332].text 雖然有時候早期
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transcript.whisperx[333].text 他整個情形整個
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transcript.whisperx[334].end 730
transcript.whisperx[334].text 都在那裡
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transcript.whisperx[335].text 我也有說
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transcript.whisperx[336].text 坤先生跟你說了
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transcript.whisperx[337].text 好好處理
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transcript.whisperx[338].text 我覺得
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transcript.whisperx[339].text 我們不要因為個案
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transcript.whisperx[340].text 也有很多
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transcript.whisperx[341].text 去來我們部會
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transcript.whisperx[342].text 我們都可以
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transcript.whisperx[343].text 一一來服務
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transcript.whisperx[344].text 因為今天時間
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transcript.whisperx[345].end 750
transcript.whisperx[345].text 下個月就跟我等一下
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transcript.whisperx[346].end 752
transcript.whisperx[346].text 再寫書面
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transcript.whisperx[347].text 報告給您
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transcript.whisperx[348].text 拜託
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transcript.whisperx[349].text 我會回答一下
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transcript.whisperx[350].text 我們絕對不會讓我們
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transcript.whisperx[351].text 跟我們投訴的人
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transcript.whisperx[352].text 投訴我們
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transcript.whisperx[353].text 我們一定會積極努力協助
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transcript.whisperx[354].end 765
transcript.whisperx[354].text 謝謝