| IVOD_ID |
170730 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170730 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
24 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-29T09:35:39+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-29T09:46:24+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:45 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/271ed4367c1fa4641f32cdaf9fa1473e33d96299fbed69da85318aded05206c926c4e24d5983e9f25ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:35:39 - 09:46:24 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議（事由：審查本院委員王世堅等17人、委員呂玉玲等16人、委員葉元之等17人、委員黃健豪等18人、委員黃健豪等19人、委員賴士葆等18人、委員李彥秀等20人分別擬具「海關進口稅則部分稅則修正草案」等7案。（僅詢答）） |
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鄒副署長宇新 |
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莊部長翠雲 |
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0 |
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10.64 |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進 |
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10.64 |
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13.64 |
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有請財政部的莊部長 |
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13.64 |
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16.76 |
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還有經濟部產發署的周副署長 |
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16.76 |
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19.16 |
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請莊部長 請周副署長 |
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19.16 |
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23 |
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委員好 |
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23 |
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25 |
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兩位長官好 |
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25 |
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29 |
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現在Alt Art沒有生效 |
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29 |
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36 |
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是不是汽車進口汽車17.5降為零 |
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36 |
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38 |
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基本上就沒有這回事了 |
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38 |
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40 |
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是不是 呼呼呼 你不要想這樣 |
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40 |
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42 |
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部長 |
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42 |
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48 |
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目前來說當然還是依照我們海關進口稅則的稅率來課徵汽車關稅 |
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48 |
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50 |
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17.5 |
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50 |
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52 |
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所以我可不可以這樣講 |
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52 |
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56 |
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只要跟美國的Alt沒有生效 |
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56 |
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58 |
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我們就一直維持不會降 |
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58 |
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60 |
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是不是這樣 |
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60 |
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65 |
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一個稅率基本上是我們加入WTO以後承諾的一個稅率 |
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65 |
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68 |
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那如果跟台美談判的Alt的話 |
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68 |
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69 |
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剛剛也講得很清楚 |
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69 |
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72 |
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它是屬於雙邊的一個協定 |
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72 |
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76 |
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所以只針對美車進口來做調降 |
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76 |
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77 |
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所以這是雙邊的 |
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77 |
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80 |
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那至於汽車未來的關稅是否要調降 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
80 |
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82 |
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我們必須要整全面的調降 |
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82 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
84 |
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必須要考慮國內的產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
84 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
88 |
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今天報告你把它講得像毒蛇門獸說 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
88 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
90 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
哇這個損失快六百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
90 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
93 |
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這個損失八百多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
93 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
94 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
夭壽 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
94 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
96 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
這損失這麼大 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
96 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
97 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
怎麼可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
97 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
98 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
變成這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
98 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
100 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
你這是恐嚇老百姓喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
102 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
104 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
我們的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
104 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
107 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
這個是稅損的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
107 |
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111 |
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同時還要考慮到這個國內汽車產業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
111 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
113 |
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我跟你講一個喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
113 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
116 |
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先請那個周副處長講一下 |
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116 |
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123 |
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為了提升我們國內汽車產業的競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
123 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
128 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
不管整體的汽車進來有沒有降關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
128 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
131 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
你知不知此關鍵領主稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
131 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
133 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
領主建都應該要降關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
133 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
134 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
你可以看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
134 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
136 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
稅損只有八點多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
136 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
139 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
那麼13項的汽車領主建 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
139 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
142 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
如果九項只有八點多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
142 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
145 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
如果針對13項還要反還可以增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
145 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
147 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
你明明有啊你可以看 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
147 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
150 |
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降關稅因為車子的競爭力提高了 |
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150 |
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151 |
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稅收還增加 |
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151 |
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153 |
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就是你們報告寫的 |
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153 |
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156 |
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副處長要不要講一下 |
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156 |
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157 |
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是 跟委員報告 |
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157 |
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有關這個領主建降稅的部分 |
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160 |
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如果是屬於國內無產制的部分 |
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163 |
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166 |
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那這樣子從國外進來的領主建 |
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它降稅之後對於國內車廠組裝的成本 |
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170 |
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就會降低 |
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171 |
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自然就會讓它的銷售量提高 |
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174 |
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178 |
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整車的銷售量提高之後 |
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178 |
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180 |
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對於它的領主建的廠商 |
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180 |
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182 |
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其實也相對說明 |
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182 |
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184 |
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所以按照我們的稅評是OK |
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184 |
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186 |
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是會是 |
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186 |
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187 |
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所以你支持 |
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187 |
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189 |
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不管進口車有沒有降 |
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189 |
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192 |
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我們領主關鍵領主建可以先降 |
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192 |
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195 |
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但是整個稅市支出評估的作業 |
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195 |
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197 |
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還在財政部的這個負評審查 |
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197 |
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198 |
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從來沒有結束 |
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198 |
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200 |
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所以還是要看到最後的結果 |
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200 |
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201 |
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莊部長 莊部長 |
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201 |
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203 |
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你的報告寫的 |
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203 |
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204 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
這是你的報告寫的 |
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204 |
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206 |
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財政部長莊翠穎 |
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206 |
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210 |
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你寫的13項的汽車領主建 |
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210 |
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214 |
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調降關稅稅收增加0.52 |
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214 |
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216 |
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報名就要去做了啦 |
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216 |
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218 |
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同意吧 就不管 |
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218 |
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222 |
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我騎車現在因為還沒有降關稅 |
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222 |
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223 |
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不知道 |
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223 |
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225 |
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因為美國那邊還沒搞定 |
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225 |
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228 |
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但是我們領主建也13項的 |
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228 |
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230 |
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先給它降為0嘛 |
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230 |
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231 |
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那不是好事嗎 |
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231 |
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232 |
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我的提案就是這個啊 |
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232 |
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233 |
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部長 |
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233 |
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235 |
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委員現在在程序中 |
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235 |
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237 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
還是在做稅評過程 |
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237 |
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什麼時候可以最後出來 |
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238 |
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239 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
最後什麼時候 |
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239 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
241 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
這個部分目前還在經濟部 |
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241 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
243 |
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在做相關的 |
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243 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
246 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
把這個稅評做得更為充實 |
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246 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
247 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
跟強化一點 |
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247 |
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249 |
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那我覺得可能還需要一些時間 |
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249 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
250 |
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多少時間 |
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250 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
251 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
副組長 |
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251 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
252 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
兩個月內可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
252 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
253 |
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是跟委員報告 |
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253 |
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255 |
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你回應我 我實際有信 |
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255 |
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256 |
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因為我們7月22號 |
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256 |
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258 |
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收到財政部的意見 |
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258 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
260 |
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所以我們還需要一些時間 |
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260 |
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261 |
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還多久 |
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261 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
263 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
做模型的調整 |
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263 |
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264 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
還多久 |
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264 |
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265 |
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兩個月可以嗎 |
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265 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
266 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
我們盡快 |
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266 |
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268 |
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兩個月可以吧 |
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268 |
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271 |
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這個部長你的報告寫這麼清楚 |
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271 |
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272 |
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我們盡量 |
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272 |
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273 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
13項 |
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273 |
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274 |
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關建領主建 |
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274 |
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276 |
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如果調降關稅降為0 |
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276 |
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280 |
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稅收增加0.52億 |
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280 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
281 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
你寫得這麼清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
281 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
282 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
這件好事 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
282 |
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284 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
不然就要去做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
284 |
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286 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
好不好 那個副組長請回吧 |
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287 |
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288 |
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來 |
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288 |
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289 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
我請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
289 |
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291 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
那個部長 |
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292 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
294 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
我的這個是跨國 |
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294 |
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297 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
為什麼關股要介入國票金 |
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297 |
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300 |
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你說以前我質詢你的時候 |
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300 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
301 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
你就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
301 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
303 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
喔 這個因為它裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
303 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
305 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
這個管理的亂七八糟 |
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305 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
307 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
什麼裡面問題很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
307 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
308 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
什麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
308 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
309 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
問題很大的公司 |
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309 |
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312 |
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問題很大的公司何其多 |
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312 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
314 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
你為什麼偏偏什麼地方不介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
314 |
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315 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
就介入這個 |
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316 |
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318 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
我就問你一個問題 |
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318 |
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322 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
以後我們假設財政部及法案公署 |
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322 |
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323 |
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八大行庫要來 |
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323 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
325 |
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是不是未來變成九大行庫 |
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325 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
326 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
有沒有這個事情 |
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326 |
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327 |
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是不是 |
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327 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
329 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
他要不要來備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
330 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
331 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
當然按照 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
331 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
335 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
按照才會立法院的一個職權來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
335 |
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337 |
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不要你回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
337 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
338 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
應該是會要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
339 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
340 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
尊重立法院的要求 |
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340 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
342 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
那就是以後就變成不是八大行庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
342 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
344 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
而是九大行庫 |
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344 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
345 |
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是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
345 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
346 |
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我們尊重立法院要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
346 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
347 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
不不不你回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
347 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
348 |
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Yes No 是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
348 |
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349 |
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可以啊 可以來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
349 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
350 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
可以來喔 |
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350 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
354 |
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因為國務院管理法第三條定的這麼清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
354 |
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355 |
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職權就可以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
355 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
356 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
此一路 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
357 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
358 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
什麼要來關股 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
358 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
359 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
什麼時候來 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
360 |
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361 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
持股超過50% |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
361 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
362 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
它沒有 |
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363 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
365 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
政府指派關股代表 |
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365 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
367 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
擔任董事長或總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
367 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
369 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
立法院要求 |
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369 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
370 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
他就要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
371 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
374 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
國務院管理法第三條定的這麼清楚 |
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374 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
376 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
所以以後變成我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
376 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
378 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
泛光股八大行庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
378 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
381 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
就能改成九大行庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
381 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
382 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
我這樣講沒有問題吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
383 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
384 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
不然 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
384 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
385 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
我要決定一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
385 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
388 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
委員您已經把這個國務院管理法列出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
388 |
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390 |
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立法院得要求嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
390 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
391 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
391 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
392 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
所以尊重立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
392 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
393 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
393 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
394 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
有這九大行庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
394 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
395 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
395 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
397 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
同時我就要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
398 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
400 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
當初問不出一個所以然 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
401 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
402 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
看不懂啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
402 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
404 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
這財政部啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
404 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
405 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
你只有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
405 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
407 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
哎呀 我有多少實力 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
407 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
409 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
我就拿多少席次 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
409 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
410 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
410 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
413 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
但是大家會想到一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
413 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
416 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
應該是戰略性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
417 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
419 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
我介入國標金 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
419 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
421 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
因為它是一個最小的金控 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
421 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
423 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
大家就會想到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
423 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
你要推公共病 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
你要病張瘾 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
427 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
結果後來發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
427 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
428 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
428 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
429 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
後來發現說 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
429 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
431 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
喔 因為答案在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
431 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
433 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
機關放在身後 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
433 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
434 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
只有圖利 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
434 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
435 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
哪一個集團 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
435 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
437 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
他們的代表人 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
437 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
438 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
擔任副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
438 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
440 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
年薪上千萬以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
443 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
變成說 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
443 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
變了老半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
446 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
結果沒有病 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
446 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
448 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
只有做一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
448 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
449 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
449 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
451 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
圖利特定集團 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
452 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
454 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
這個叫圖利耐斯集團 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
454 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
456 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
就變這個樣子啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
456 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
458 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
現在看到答案是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
458 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
大家看到看不看不看 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
461 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
答案顯開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
461 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
463 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
答案顯開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
463 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
464 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
沒有什麼偽造的戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
464 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
465 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
什麼都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
465 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
466 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
就是兩個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
466 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
467 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
四個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
467 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
469 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
圖或者六個字好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
469 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
471 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
圖利特定財團 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
471 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
472 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
這樣而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
472 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
474 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
把你的股份去押它 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
474 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
476 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
給它當一個副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
476 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
477 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
477 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
478 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
十四行呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
478 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
479 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
上了董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
479 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
481 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
現在總經理副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
481 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
482 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
坐領甘心 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
482 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
483 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
就這樣子而已啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
483 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
484 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
坐領高薪啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
484 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
486 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
還不是甘心而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
486 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
487 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
是高薪啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
488 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
489 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
490 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
492 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
持相很難看哩 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
493 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
494 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
你做歷史罪人哩 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
494 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
495 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
總部長啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
495 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
496 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
你做這個決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
496 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
497 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
很難看哩 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
498 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
499 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
499 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
501 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
我想在國票金這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
501 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
502 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
委員也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
502 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
503 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
還有社會各界 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
503 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
505 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
都有相關的一些意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
505 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
506 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
那當然我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
506 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
509 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
各個意見相關的一個原由 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
509 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
510 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
我們也都了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
510 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
那我們已經一再說過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
514 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
國票金控目前來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
514 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
516 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
關股指派的有關股權代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
516 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
517 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
他們首要的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
517 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
519 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
就是完善他的公司治理 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
519 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
521 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
提升營運的一績效 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
521 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
523 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
那後續的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
523 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
524 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
那當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
524 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
526 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
大家都說沒有做沒有做 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
526 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
527 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
你在推翻我 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
527 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
529 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
推翻我講的話嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
529 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
530 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
你要 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
530 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
531 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
你這個背心 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
531 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
你要推翻我講的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
533 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
另外所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
533 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
這是你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
535 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
你沒有站這東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
535 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
537 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
沒有就圖利而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
537 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
538 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
你圖利啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
538 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
539 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
圖利啊圖利 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
539 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
541 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
圖利這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
541 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
542 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
不要隨便灌在 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
542 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
544 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
不要灌在我們的同仁的身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
544 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
546 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
你做這個是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
546 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
548 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
就是給他一個副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
548 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
550 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
你有種就給他董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
550 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
你給他一個董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
這是公司治理內部的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
555 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
555 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
556 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
什麼叫內部的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
556 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
558 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
董事都聽你的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
558 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
560 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
大家都了解啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
560 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
561 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
561 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
563 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
所以親戚都聽你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
563 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
565 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
所以清清楚楚看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
566 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
568 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
你也沒有推動公共病 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
568 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
570 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
如果你今天說來 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
570 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
572 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
我介入國標金色病 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
572 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
573 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
張銀 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
573 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
575 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
我要給你掌聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
576 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
577 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
577 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
579 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
現在看到結果沒有這個東西啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
579 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
581 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
那我再問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
581 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
583 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
投信四合一啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
583 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
585 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
說今年底可以搞定是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
585 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
587 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
朝這個目標進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
587 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
588 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
確定今年底 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
588 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
589 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
目前已經在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
589 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
591 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
要按照相關程序在做了當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
591 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
593 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
當然還要符合金管的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
593 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
595 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
我們也要除了董事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
595 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
597 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
先經過金管會 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
597 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
598 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
要報金管會同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
598 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
600 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
所以目前來積極的進行當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
600 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
603 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
都按照程序在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
603 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
606 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
我給你個機會補考機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
607 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
608 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
部長啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
608 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
610 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
有關於國標金 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
610 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
612 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
你們大剌剌的介入之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
614 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
615 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
介入之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
616 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
618 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
你的戰略目的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
619 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
620 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
你可以寫個報告給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
621 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
622 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
好不好給蔡委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
622 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
623 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
好我們可以提書面 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
623 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
624 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
你到底為什麼這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
624 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
625 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
625 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
626 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
因為外界一直質疑啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
626 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
627 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
你只有一個啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
627 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
628 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
就看到只有一個說 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
628 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
631 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
給一個董事長年薪上千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
631 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
632 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
這樣而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
632 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
635 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
其他都沒有看到傳過水無痕 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
635 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
636 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
這很可悲啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
636 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
637 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
我知道各界都很關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
637 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
641 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
你的形象毀於一旦喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
641 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
642 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
是是是 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
642 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
644 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
好謝謝委員的指教謝謝 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2026-07-29T09:35:39+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[0].end |
2026-07-29T09:35:55.520000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].text |
謝謝主席以及各位先進，有請財政部莊部長，還有經濟部產發署鄒副署長。 |
| transcript.gazette[0].quality |
0.967 |
| transcript.gazette[1].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[1].start |
2026-07-29T09:35:55.760000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[1].end |
2026-07-29T09:35:57.893333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].text |
請莊部長、鄒副署長。 |
| transcript.gazette[1].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-07-29T09:35:58.160000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2026-07-29T09:36:00.720000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-07-29T09:36:02+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2026-07-29T09:36:03.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].text |
兩位長官好。 |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-07-29T09:36:04+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2026-07-29T09:36:20+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].text |
現在ART沒有生效，進口汽車關稅17.5%降為零，基本上就沒有這回事了，已經不算數了，是不是，部長？ |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
0.732 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-07-29T09:36:21+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-07-29T09:36:26.785714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
目前來說，當然還是依照我們海關進口稅則的稅率來課徵汽車關稅。 |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-07-29T09:36:27+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-07-29T09:36:37.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
17.5%，所以我可不可以這樣講，只要跟美國的ART沒有生效，我們就一直維持不會降，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-07-29T09:36:37.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-07-29T09:36:39.833333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
可不可以這樣講？ |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0.286 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-07-29T09:36:39.833333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-07-29T09:36:55.857143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
基本上，這是我們加入WTO以後承諾的稅率，至於臺美談判的ART，剛剛也講得很清楚，它是屬於雙邊協定，所以只針對美車進口調降，所以這是雙邊的。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-07-29T09:36:56.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-07-29T09:37:02.833333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
至於汽車未來的關稅是否要調降，我們全面調降必須要考慮國內的產業發展。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-07-29T09:37:03+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-07-29T09:37:12.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
你在今天的報告把它講得像毒蛇猛獸，會損失快600億、損失八百多億，夭壽喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-07-29T09:37:13.333333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-07-29T09:37:17.888889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
損失這麼大，怎麼可以做，你這是恐嚇老百姓嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.789 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-07-29T09:37:18.111111+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-07-29T09:37:18.777778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
PUA老百姓喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-07-29T09:37:21+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-07-29T09:37:29.777778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
我們的報告裡面除了稅損報告，同時還要考慮到國內汽車產業的發展。 |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-07-29T09:37:32+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-07-29T09:37:51.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
先請鄒副署長，為了提升國內汽車產業的競爭力，不管整體的汽車進來有沒有降關稅，你支不支持關鍵零組件都應該要降關稅？ |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-07-29T09:37:52+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-07-29T09:38:14.666667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
你看稅損只有八點多億，13項汽車零組件，9項只有八點多億，如果針對13項反而還可以增加0.52，因為降關稅讓車子的競爭力提高了，稅收還增加，這個是你們報告寫的，副署長要不要說一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.838 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
鄒副署長宇新 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-07-29T09:38:15.166667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-07-29T09:38:32.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
跟委員報告，有關零組件降稅的部分，如果是屬於國內無產製的部分，從國外進來的零組件降稅之後，對於國內車廠組裝的成本就會降低，自然就會讓它的銷售量有提高的機會。是啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-07-29T09:38:32.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-07-29T09:38:33.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
競爭力就會提高，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
鄒副署長宇新 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-07-29T09:38:33+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-07-29T09:38:42.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
整車的銷售量提高之後，對於零組件廠商其實也會相對受影響，所以按照我們的稅評是朝向正面的影響。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.674 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-07-29T09:38:45.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-07-29T09:38:50.769231+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
你支持不管進口車有沒有降，關鍵零組件可以先降，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
鄒副署長宇新 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-07-29T09:38:51+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-07-29T09:38:58.833333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
對，但是整個稅式支出評估的作業還在財政部的複評審查中，還沒有結束，所以還是要看到最後的結果再來做決定。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.787 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-07-29T09:38:59+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-07-29T09:39:15.666667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
請教莊部長，這是財政部的報告寫的，13項汽車零組件調降關稅，稅收增加0.52，半夜就要去做了，同意吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.725 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-07-29T09:39:17.923077+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-07-29T09:39:29.833333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
現在汽車能不能降關稅不知道，因為美國那邊還沒搞定，但是13項零組件可以先降為零，那不是好事嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.732 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-07-29T09:39:30+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-07-29T09:39:31.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
我的提案就是這個，部長？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-07-29T09:39:32+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-07-29T09:39:35.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
委員，現在在程序中，還在做稅評過程當中。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-07-29T09:39:36+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-07-29T09:39:36.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
什麼時候可以出來？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-07-29T09:39:38+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-07-29T09:39:47.846154+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
這個部分目前經濟部還要再把稅評做得更為充實和強化一點，我覺得可能還需要一些時間。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-07-29T09:39:48+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-07-29T09:39:50.857143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
要多少時間，副署長，兩個月內可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-07-29T09:39:50.857143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-07-29T09:39:54+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
因為我的時間有限…… |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
鄒副署長宇新 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-07-29T09:39:54+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-07-29T09:40:01.666667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
因為我們7月22號收到財政部的意見，所以我們還需要一些時間做模型的調整。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-07-29T09:40:02+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-07-29T09:40:02.666667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
還多久時間？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-07-29T09:40:03+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-07-29T09:40:03.833333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
兩個月可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
鄒副署長宇新 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-07-29T09:40:04+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-07-29T09:40:04.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
我們儘快。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-07-29T09:40:05+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-07-29T09:40:06.666667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
兩個月可以吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-07-29T09:40:07.461538+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-07-29T09:40:09.769231+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
部長，你的報告寫得這麼清楚…… |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
鄒副署長宇新 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-07-29T09:40:10+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-07-29T09:40:10.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
我們儘量在兩個月。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.375 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-07-29T09:40:13+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-07-29T09:40:23.363636+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
如果13項汽車零組件關稅降為零，稅收增加0.52億，你寫得這麼清楚，這麼好的事情，半夜我們也要去做，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.651 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-07-29T09:40:23.909091+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-07-29T09:40:24.636364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
副署長請回。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-07-29T09:40:27+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-07-29T09:40:32.142857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
我請教一下部長，外界是看不懂啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-07-29T09:40:33+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-07-29T09:40:35.727273+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
為什麼官股要介入國票金？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-07-29T09:40:37.090909+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-07-29T09:40:50.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
我質詢你的時候，你就說因為裡面管理得亂七八糟，問題很大什麼的，問題很大的公司何其多！ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.974 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-07-29T09:40:51.923077+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-07-29T09:40:53.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
什麼地方不介入，你為什麼偏偏就介入這個？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-07-29T09:40:55+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-07-29T09:41:04.857143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
我就問你一個問題，以後我們講財政部及泛公股八大行庫要來，是不是未來變成九大行庫，有沒有這個事情？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.932 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-07-29T09:41:06+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-07-29T09:41:07.714286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
他要不要來備詢？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-07-29T09:41:09+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-07-29T09:41:13.714286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
當然按照立法院的職權來做。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-07-29T09:41:14+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-07-29T09:41:14.333333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
不是，要不要？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-07-29T09:41:14.666667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-07-29T09:41:15.666667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
你回答我嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-07-29T09:41:18+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-07-29T09:41:18.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
尊重立法院的要求。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-07-29T09:41:19+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-07-29T09:41:23.666667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
那就是以後變成不是八大行庫，是九大行庫喔，是不是這樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-07-29T09:41:24+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-07-29T09:41:25.285714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
我們尊重立法院的要求。不！ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-07-29T09:41:25.428571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-07-29T09:41:26.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
你回答我Yes or No。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-07-29T09:41:27.428571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-07-29T09:41:27.714286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
可以來。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-07-29T09:41:28+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-07-29T09:41:28.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
可以來？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-07-29T09:41:29+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-07-29T09:41:37.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
因為國營事業管理法第三條定得這麼清楚，官股什麼時候要來？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-07-29T09:41:39+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-07-29T09:42:00.888889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
政府持股未超過50%，但政府指派公股代表擔任董事長或總經理，立法院要求，他就要來，國營事業管理法第三條定得這麼清楚，所以以後變成我們的泛公股八大行庫改成九大行庫，我這樣講沒有問題吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.878 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-07-29T09:42:03+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-07-29T09:42:03.833333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
部長，我再確定一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-07-29T09:42:04+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-07-29T09:42:08.714286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
委員，您已經把國營事業管理法列出來，立法院得要求嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-07-29T09:42:10+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-07-29T09:42:10.857143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
所以尊重立法院。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-07-29T09:42:11+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-07-29T09:42:12.833333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
好，以後就九大行庫。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-07-29T09:42:14+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-07-29T09:42:20.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
同時我就問，當時我問不出一個所以然，看不懂啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-07-29T09:42:21.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-07-29T09:42:28.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
財政部，你只有說有多少實力就拿多少席次，很好！ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-07-29T09:42:29+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-07-29T09:42:46.666667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
但是大家會想到戰略性介入國票金，因為它是最小的金控，大家就會想到你要推公公併、你要併彰銀，結果發現也沒有啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-07-29T09:42:47+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-07-29T09:42:50.333333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
後來發現原來答案在這裡，「機關安佇倉庫」！ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.647 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-07-29T09:42:52+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-07-29T09:43:09.666667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
只有圖利某一個集團的代表人擔任副董事長，年薪上千萬以上，併了老半天，結果沒有併，只有做一件事情，圖利特定集團啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-07-29T09:43:11.666667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-07-29T09:43:14.428571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
圖利耐斯集團，就變成這個樣子！ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-07-29T09:43:15+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-07-29T09:43:30.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
現在看到的答案是這個，大家看了老半天看不懂，答案掀開了，沒有什麼偉大的戰略，什麼都沒有，就是6個字：「圖利特定財團」，這樣而已！ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.83 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-07-29T09:43:31.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-07-29T09:43:45.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
答案就是用股份押他，給他當一個副董事長，上有董事長，下有總經理，副董事長坐領乾薪，就這樣子而已，是坐領高薪，還不是乾薪而已，是高薪啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.707 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-07-29T09:43:47+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-07-29T09:43:55.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
部長，吃相很難看，你做歷史罪人，莊部長，你做這個決定很難看。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-07-29T09:43:57+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-07-29T09:44:03.777778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
委員，我想在國票金這件事情，委員也好，還有社會各界都有一些相關的意見。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.935 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-07-29T09:44:04.142857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-07-29T09:44:24.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
當然我們也都了解各個意見的相關緣由，我們已經一再說過了，國票金控目前來說，官股指派有關股權代表，他們首要的工作就是完善公司治理及提升營運績效，後續的做法當然大家都說沒有做、沒有做，對我們來講，這個部分大家的…… |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.758 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-07-29T09:44:25+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-07-29T09:44:27.714286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
你來推翻我講的話嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-07-29T09:44:28+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-07-29T09:44:30.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
你今天備詢要推翻我講的…… |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-07-29T09:44:31+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-07-29T09:44:31.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
我沒有……另外所謂的…… |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-07-29T09:44:31.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-07-29T09:44:32.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
賴委員質詢的，你沒有回答我，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.267 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-07-29T09:44:32.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-07-29T09:44:34+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
我回答啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-07-29T09:44:34+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-07-29T09:44:37.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
你沒有相關戰略，沒有就是圖利而已，你同意了，圖利、圖利特定財團啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.464 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-07-29T09:44:38+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-07-29T09:44:42.833333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
圖利這個事情不要隨便冠在我們同仁身上。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-07-29T09:44:42.833333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-07-29T09:44:43.833333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
當然是啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-07-29T09:44:43+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-07-29T09:44:44.714286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
請問你，你做了什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-07-29T09:44:45+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-07-29T09:44:50.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
就是給他一個副董事長，不然你有種就給他董事長，你不敢，只給他副董事長，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.735 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-07-29T09:44:51+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-07-29T09:44:52.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
這是公司治理內部的事。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-07-29T09:44:54+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:44:54.857143+08:00 |
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什麼叫內部的事？ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-07-29T09:44:55+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:44:59.666667+08:00 |
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董事都聽你的，大家都了解，對不對？ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:02+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:11.500000+08:00 |
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所以清清楚楚看得到，你也沒有推動公公併，如果你今天說「來，我介入國票金是要併彰銀。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:12+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:15.666667+08:00 |
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」我要給你掌聲，沒有啊！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:16+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:17.692308+08:00 |
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現在看到的結果沒有這個東西。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:18.400000+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:23.818182+08:00 |
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我再問你「投信四合一今年底可以搞定」，是不是？ |
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莊部長翠雲 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:24+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:25.714286+08:00 |
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朝這個目標進行。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:26+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:26.800000+08:00 |
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確定今年底？ |
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| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:27+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:41.625000+08:00 |
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目前已經按照相關程序在做當中，當然還要符合金管的法規，我們也要先報金管會同意，所以目前積極地進行當中，都按照程序在進行。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:42+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:56.777778+08:00 |
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我給你一個補考的機會，部長，有關於國票金，你們大剌剌介入之後，你的戰略目的是什麼？ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-07-29T09:45:58+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:00.285714+08:00 |
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你可以寫個報告給財委會，好不好？ |
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莊部長翠雲 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:01+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:01.875000+08:00 |
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好，我們可以提書面報告給委員，謝謝。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:02+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:02.777778+08:00 |
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你到底為什麼這樣？ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:04+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:10.750000+08:00 |
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因為外界一直質疑，看到的只有一個，就是給一個副董事長，年薪上千萬，這樣而已啊！ |
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| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:11+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:14.600000+08:00 |
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其他都沒有看到，船過水無痕，這很可悲喔！ |
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| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:15+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:15.888889+08:00 |
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是，我知道各界都很關注，也都有它的緣由。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:16+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:20+08:00 |
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你的形象毀於一旦。是！ |
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莊部長翠雲 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:21.200000+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:22.800000+08:00 |
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謝謝委員的指教，謝謝。 |
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主席 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:23.300000+08:00 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:27.300000+08:00 |
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謝謝，我們結束賴士葆委員的質詢。 |
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主席 |
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2026-07-29T09:46:30.171429+08:00 |
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接下來請郭國文委員。 |
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賴委員士葆：（9時35分）謝謝主席以及各位先進，有請財政部莊部長，還有經濟部產發署鄒副署長。 |
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主席：請莊部長、鄒副署長。 |
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莊部長翠雲：委員好。 |
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賴委員士葆：兩位長官好。現在ART沒有生效，進口汽車關稅17.5%降為零，基本上就沒有這回事了，已經不算數了，是不是，部長？ |
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莊部長翠雲：目前來說，當然還是依照我們海關進口稅則的稅率來課徵汽車關稅。 |
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賴委員士葆：17.5%，所以我可不可以這樣講，只要跟美國的ART沒有生效，我們就一直維持不會降，是不是？可不可以這樣講？ |
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莊部長翠雲：基本上，這是我們加入WTO以後承諾的稅率，至於臺美談判的ART，剛剛也講得很清楚，它是屬於雙邊協定，所以只針對美車進口調降，所以這是雙邊的。至於汽車未來的關稅是否要調降，我們全面調降必須要考慮國內的產業發展。 |
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賴委員士葆：你在今天的報告把它講得像毒蛇猛獸，會損失快600億、損失八百多億，夭壽喔！損失這麼大，怎麼可以做，你這是恐嚇老百姓嗎？PUA老百姓喔？ |
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莊部長翠雲：我們的報告裡面除了稅損報告，同時還要考慮到國內汽車產業的發展。 |
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賴委員士葆：先請鄒副署長，為了提升國內汽車產業的競爭力，不管整體的汽車進來有沒有降關稅，你支不支持關鍵零組件都應該要降關稅？你看稅損只有八點多億，13項汽車零組件，9項只有八點多億，如果針對13項反而還可以增加0.52，因為降關稅讓車子的競爭力提高了，稅收還增加，這個是你們報告寫的，副署長要不要說一下？ |
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鄒副署長宇新：跟委員報告，有關零組件降稅的部分，如果是屬於國內無產製的部分，從國外進來的零組件降稅之後，對於國內車廠組裝的成本就會降低，自然就會讓它的銷售量有提高的機會。 |
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賴委員士葆：是啊！競爭力就會提高，對不對？ |
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鄒副署長宇新：整車的銷售量提高之後，對於零組件廠商其實也會相對受影響，所以按照我們的稅評是朝向正面的影響。 |
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賴委員士葆：你支持不管進口車有沒有降，關鍵零組件可以先降，對不對？ |
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鄒副署長宇新：對，但是整個稅式支出評估的作業還在財政部的複評審查中，還沒有結束，所以還是要看到最後的結果再來做決定。 |
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賴委員士葆：請教莊部長，這是財政部的報告寫的，13項汽車零組件調降關稅，稅收增加0.52，半夜就要去做了，同意吧？現在汽車能不能降關稅不知道，因為美國那邊還沒搞定，但是13項零組件可以先降為零，那不是好事嗎？我的提案就是這個，部長？ |
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莊部長翠雲：委員，現在在程序中，還在做稅評過程當中。 |
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賴委員士葆：什麼時候可以出來？ |
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莊部長翠雲：這個部分目前經濟部還要再把稅評做得更為充實和強化一點，我覺得可能還需要一些時間。 |
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賴委員士葆：要多少時間，副署長，兩個月內可以嗎？因為我的時間有限…… |
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鄒副署長宇新：因為我們7月22號收到財政部的意見，所以我們還需要一些時間做模型的調整。 |
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賴委員士葆：還多久時間？兩個月可以嗎？ |
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鄒副署長宇新：我們儘快。 |
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賴委員士葆：兩個月可以吧？部長，你的報告寫得這麼清楚…… |
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鄒副署長宇新：我們儘量在兩個月。 |
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賴委員士葆：如果13項汽車零組件關稅降為零，稅收增加0.52億，你寫得這麼清楚，這麼好的事情，半夜我們也要去做，好不好？副署長請回。 |
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我請教一下部長，外界是看不懂啦！為什麼官股要介入國票金？我質詢你的時候，你就說因為裡面管理得亂七八糟，問題很大什麼的，問題很大的公司何其多！什麼地方不介入，你為什麼偏偏就介入這個？我就問你一個問題，以後我們講財政部及泛公股八大行庫要來，是不是未來變成九大行庫，有沒有這個事情？他要不要來備詢？ |
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莊部長翠雲：當然按照立法院的職權來做。 |
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賴委員士葆：不是，要不要？你回答我嘛！ |
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莊部長翠雲：尊重立法院的要求。 |
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賴委員士葆：那就是以後變成不是八大行庫，是九大行庫喔，是不是這樣？ |
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莊部長翠雲：我們尊重立法院的要求。 |
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賴委員士葆：不！你回答我Yes or No。 |
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莊部長翠雲：可以來。 |
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賴委員士葆：可以來？ |
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莊部長翠雲：對。 |
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賴委員士葆：因為國營事業管理法第三條定得這麼清楚，官股什麼時候要來？政府持股未超過50%，但政府指派公股代表擔任董事長或總經理，立法院要求，他就要來，國營事業管理法第三條定得這麼清楚，所以以後變成我們的泛公股八大行庫改成九大行庫，我這樣講沒有問題吧？部長，我再確定一下。 |
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莊部長翠雲：委員，您已經把國營事業管理法列出來，立法院得要求嘛！所以尊重立法院。 |
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賴委員士葆：好，以後就九大行庫。 |
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同時我就問，當時我問不出一個所以然，看不懂啦！財政部，你只有說有多少實力就拿多少席次，很好！但是大家會想到戰略性介入國票金，因為它是最小的金控，大家就會想到你要推公公併、你要併彰銀，結果發現也沒有啊！後來發現原來答案在這裡，「機關安佇倉庫」！只有圖利某一個集團的代表人擔任副董事長，年薪上千萬以上，併了老半天，結果沒有併，只有做一件事情，圖利特定集團啦！圖利耐斯集團，就變成這個樣子！現在看到的答案是這個，大家看了老半天看不懂，答案掀開了，沒有什麼偉大的戰略，什麼都沒有，就是6個字：「圖利特定財團」，這樣而已！答案就是用股份押他，給他當一個副董事長，上有董事長，下有總經理，副董事長坐領乾薪，就這樣子而已，是坐領高薪，還不是乾薪而已，是高薪啦！部長，吃相很難看，你做歷史罪人，莊部長，你做這個決定很難看。 |
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莊部長翠雲：委員，我想在國票金這件事情，委員也好，還有社會各界都有一些相關的意見。當然我們也都了解各個意見的相關緣由，我們已經一再說過了，國票金控目前來說，官股指派有關股權代表，他們首要的工作就是完善公司治理及提升營運績效，後續的做法當然大家都說沒有做、沒有做，對我們來講，這個部分大家的…… |
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賴委員士葆：你來推翻我講的話嘛！你今天備詢要推翻我講的…… |
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莊部長翠雲：我沒有……另外所謂的…… |
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賴委員士葆：賴委員質詢的，你沒有回答我，對不對？ |
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莊部長翠雲：我回答啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：你沒有相關戰略，沒有就是圖利而已，你同意了，圖利、圖利特定財團啊！ |
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莊部長翠雲：圖利這個事情不要隨便冠在我們同仁身上。 |
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賴委員士葆：當然是啊！請問你，你做了什麼？就是給他一個副董事長，不然你有種就給他董事長，你不敢，只給他副董事長，對不對？ |
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莊部長翠雲：這是公司治理內部的事。 |
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賴委員士葆：什麼叫內部的事？董事都聽你的，大家都了解，對不對？所以清清楚楚看得到，你也沒有推動公公併，如果你今天說「來，我介入國票金是要併彰銀。」我要給你掌聲，沒有啊！現在看到的結果沒有這個東西。 |
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我再問你「投信四合一今年底可以搞定」，是不是？ |
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莊部長翠雲：朝這個目標進行。 |
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賴委員士葆：確定今年底？ |
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莊部長翠雲：目前已經按照相關程序在做當中，當然還要符合金管的法規，我們也要先報金管會同意，所以目前積極地進行當中，都按照程序在進行。 |
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賴委員士葆：我給你一個補考的機會，部長，有關於國票金，你們大剌剌介入之後，你的戰略目的是什麼？你可以寫個報告給財委會，好不好？ |
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莊部長翠雲：好，我們可以提書面報告給委員，謝謝。 |
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賴委員士葆：你到底為什麼這樣？因為外界一直質疑，看到的只有一個，就是給一個副董事長，年薪上千萬，這樣而已啊！其他都沒有看到，船過水無痕，這很可悲喔！ |
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莊部長翠雲：是，我知道各界都很關注，也都有它的緣由。 |
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賴委員士葆：你的形象毀於一旦。 |
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莊部長翠雲：是！謝謝委員的指教，謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝，我們結束賴士葆委員的質詢。 |
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接下來請郭國文委員。 |
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254 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_id |
委員會-11-5-20-24 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[0] |
李彥秀 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[1] |
賴士葆 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[2] |
林德福 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[3] |
吳秉叡 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[4] |
郭國文 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[5] |
賴惠員 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[6] |
林岱樺 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[7] |
劉書彬 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[8] |
李坤城 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[9] |
林思銘 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[10] |
顏寬恒 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[11] |
王世堅 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[12] |
許忠信 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[13] |
陳玉珍 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[14] |
羅明才 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[15] |
楊瓊瓔 |
| gazette.agenda.page_start |
207 |
| gazette.agenda.meetingDate[0] |
2026-07-29 |
| gazette.agenda.gazette_id |
1156801 |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_lcidc_ids[0] |
1156801_00008 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_name |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議紀錄 |
| gazette.agenda.content |
審查本院委員王世堅等17人、委員呂玉玲等16人、委員葉元之等17人、委員黃健豪等18人、委員
黃健豪等19人、委員賴士葆等18人、委員李彥秀等20人分別擬具「海關進口稅則部分稅則修正草
案」等7案（詢答） |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_id |
1156801_00012 |