iVOD / 170730

Field Value
IVOD_ID 170730
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170730
日期 2026-07-29
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-20-24
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 24
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 20
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 財政委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-07-29T09:35:39+08:00
結束時間 2026-07-29T09:46:24+08:00
影片長度 00:10:45
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 賴士葆
委員發言時間 09:35:39 - 09:46:24
會議時間 2026-07-29T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議(事由:審查本院委員王世堅等17人、委員呂玉玲等16人、委員葉元之等17人、委員黃健豪等18人、委員黃健豪等19人、委員賴士葆等18人、委員李彥秀等20人分別擬具「海關進口稅則部分稅則修正草案」等7案。(僅詢答))
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 有請財政部的莊部長
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 請莊部長 請周副署長
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 委員好
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 兩位長官好
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 現在Alt Art沒有生效
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 是不是汽車進口汽車17.5降為零
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 基本上就沒有這回事了
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 是不是 呼呼呼 你不要想這樣
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 部長
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 目前來說當然還是依照我們海關進口稅則的稅率來課徵汽車關稅
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 所以我可不可以這樣講
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 只要跟美國的Alt沒有生效
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 我們就一直維持不會降
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 是不是這樣
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 一個稅率基本上是我們加入WTO以後承諾的一個稅率
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 那如果跟台美談判的Alt的話
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 剛剛也講得很清楚
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 它是屬於雙邊的一個協定
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 所以只針對美車進口來做調降
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 所以這是雙邊的
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 那至於汽車未來的關稅是否要調降
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 必須要考慮國內的產業發展
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 今天報告你把它講得像毒蛇門獸說
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transcript.whisperx[27].text 哇這個損失快六百億
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transcript.whisperx[28].text 這個損失八百多億
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 夭壽
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transcript.whisperx[30].text 這損失這麼大
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transcript.whisperx[31].text 怎麼可以做
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transcript.whisperx[32].text 變成這樣
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transcript.whisperx[33].text 你這是恐嚇老百姓喔
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transcript.whisperx[34].text 我們的報告裡面
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transcript.whisperx[35].text 這個是稅損的報告
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 同時還要考慮到這個國內汽車產業的發展
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 我跟你講一個喔
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transcript.whisperx[38].text 先請那個周副處長講一下
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 為了提升我們國內汽車產業的競爭力
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transcript.whisperx[40].text 不管整體的汽車進來有沒有降關稅
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transcript.whisperx[41].text 你知不知此關鍵領主稅
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transcript.whisperx[42].text 領主建都應該要降關稅
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transcript.whisperx[43].text 你可以看喔
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transcript.whisperx[44].text 稅損只有八點多億
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transcript.whisperx[45].text 那麼13項的汽車領主建
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transcript.whisperx[46].text 如果九項只有八點多億
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transcript.whisperx[47].text 如果針對13項還要反還可以增加
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transcript.whisperx[48].text 你明明有啊你可以看
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transcript.whisperx[49].text 降關稅因為車子的競爭力提高了
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transcript.whisperx[50].text 稅收還增加
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transcript.whisperx[51].text 就是你們報告寫的
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transcript.whisperx[52].text 副處長要不要講一下
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transcript.whisperx[53].text 是 跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[54].text 有關這個領主建降稅的部分
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transcript.whisperx[55].text 如果是屬於國內無產制的部分
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transcript.whisperx[56].text 那這樣子從國外進來的領主建
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transcript.whisperx[57].text 它降稅之後對於國內車廠組裝的成本
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transcript.whisperx[58].text 就會降低
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transcript.whisperx[59].text 自然就會讓它的銷售量提高
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transcript.whisperx[60].text 整車的銷售量提高之後
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transcript.whisperx[61].text 對於它的領主建的廠商
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transcript.whisperx[62].text 其實也相對說明
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transcript.whisperx[63].text 所以按照我們的稅評是OK
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transcript.whisperx[64].text 是會是
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transcript.whisperx[65].text 所以你支持
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transcript.whisperx[66].text 不管進口車有沒有降
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transcript.whisperx[67].text 我們領主關鍵領主建可以先降
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transcript.whisperx[68].text 但是整個稅市支出評估的作業
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transcript.whisperx[69].text 還在財政部的這個負評審查
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transcript.whisperx[70].text 從來沒有結束
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transcript.whisperx[71].text 所以還是要看到最後的結果
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transcript.whisperx[72].text 莊部長 莊部長
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transcript.whisperx[73].text 你的報告寫的
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transcript.whisperx[74].text 這是你的報告寫的
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transcript.whisperx[75].text 財政部長莊翠穎
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transcript.whisperx[76].text 你寫的13項的汽車領主建
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transcript.whisperx[77].text 調降關稅稅收增加0.52
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transcript.whisperx[78].text 報名就要去做了啦
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transcript.whisperx[79].text 同意吧 就不管
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transcript.whisperx[80].text 我騎車現在因為還沒有降關稅
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transcript.whisperx[81].text 不知道
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transcript.whisperx[82].text 因為美國那邊還沒搞定
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transcript.whisperx[83].text 但是我們領主建也13項的
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transcript.whisperx[84].text 先給它降為0嘛
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transcript.whisperx[85].text 那不是好事嗎
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transcript.whisperx[86].text 我的提案就是這個啊
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transcript.whisperx[87].text 部長
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transcript.whisperx[88].text 委員現在在程序中
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transcript.whisperx[89].text 還是在做稅評過程
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transcript.whisperx[90].text 什麼時候可以最後出來
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transcript.whisperx[91].text 最後什麼時候
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transcript.whisperx[92].text 這個部分目前還在經濟部
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transcript.whisperx[93].text 在做相關的
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transcript.whisperx[94].text 把這個稅評做得更為充實
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transcript.whisperx[95].text 跟強化一點
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transcript.whisperx[96].text 那我覺得可能還需要一些時間
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transcript.whisperx[97].text 多少時間
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transcript.whisperx[98].text 副組長
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transcript.whisperx[99].text 兩個月內可以嗎
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transcript.whisperx[100].text 是跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[101].text 你回應我 我實際有信
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transcript.whisperx[102].text 因為我們7月22號
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transcript.whisperx[103].text 收到財政部的意見
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transcript.whisperx[104].text 所以我們還需要一些時間
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transcript.whisperx[105].text 還多久
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transcript.whisperx[106].text 做模型的調整
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transcript.whisperx[107].text 還多久
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transcript.whisperx[108].text 兩個月可以嗎
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transcript.whisperx[109].text 我們盡快
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transcript.whisperx[110].text 兩個月可以吧
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transcript.whisperx[111].text 這個部長你的報告寫這麼清楚
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transcript.whisperx[112].text 我們盡量
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transcript.whisperx[113].text 13項
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transcript.whisperx[114].text 關建領主建
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transcript.whisperx[115].text 如果調降關稅降為0
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transcript.whisperx[116].text 稅收增加0.52億
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transcript.whisperx[117].text 你寫得這麼清楚
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transcript.whisperx[118].text 這件好事
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transcript.whisperx[119].text 不然就要去做了
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transcript.whisperx[120].text 好不好 那個副組長請回吧
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transcript.whisperx[122].text 我請教一下
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transcript.whisperx[123].text 那個部長
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transcript.whisperx[124].text 我的這個是跨國
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transcript.whisperx[125].text 為什麼關股要介入國票金
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transcript.whisperx[126].text 你說以前我質詢你的時候
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transcript.whisperx[127].text 你就說
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transcript.whisperx[128].text 喔 這個因為它裡面
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transcript.whisperx[129].text 這個管理的亂七八糟
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transcript.whisperx[130].text 什麼裡面問題很大
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transcript.whisperx[131].text 什麼的
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transcript.whisperx[132].text 問題很大的公司
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transcript.whisperx[133].text 問題很大的公司何其多
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transcript.whisperx[134].text 你為什麼偏偏什麼地方不介入
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transcript.whisperx[135].text 就介入這個
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transcript.whisperx[136].text 我就問你一個問題
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transcript.whisperx[137].text 以後我們假設財政部及法案公署
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transcript.whisperx[138].text 八大行庫要來
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transcript.whisperx[139].text 是不是未來變成九大行庫
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transcript.whisperx[140].text 有沒有這個事情
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transcript.whisperx[141].text 是不是
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transcript.whisperx[142].text 他要不要來備詢
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transcript.whisperx[143].text 當然按照
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transcript.whisperx[144].text 按照才會立法院的一個職權來做
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transcript.whisperx[145].text 不要你回答我
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transcript.whisperx[146].text 應該是會要的
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transcript.whisperx[147].text 尊重立法院的要求
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transcript.whisperx[148].text 那就是以後就變成不是八大行庫
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transcript.whisperx[149].text 而是九大行庫
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transcript.whisperx[150].text 是不是
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transcript.whisperx[151].text 我們尊重立法院要求
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transcript.whisperx[152].text 不不不你回答我
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transcript.whisperx[153].text Yes No 是不是
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transcript.whisperx[154].text 可以啊 可以來啊
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transcript.whisperx[155].text 可以來喔
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transcript.whisperx[156].text 因為國務院管理法第三條定的這麼清楚
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transcript.whisperx[157].text 職權就可以來
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transcript.whisperx[158].text 此一路
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transcript.whisperx[159].text 什麼要來關股
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transcript.whisperx[160].text 什麼時候來
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transcript.whisperx[161].text 持股超過50%
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transcript.whisperx[162].text 它沒有
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transcript.whisperx[163].text 政府指派關股代表
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transcript.whisperx[165].text 立法院要求
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transcript.whisperx[166].text 他就要來
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transcript.whisperx[167].text 國務院管理法第三條定的這麼清楚
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transcript.whisperx[168].text 所以以後變成我們的
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transcript.whisperx[169].text 泛光股八大行庫
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transcript.whisperx[170].text 就能改成九大行庫
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transcript.whisperx[171].text 我這樣講沒有問題吧
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transcript.whisperx[172].text 不然
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transcript.whisperx[173].text 我要決定一下
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transcript.whisperx[174].text 委員您已經把這個國務院管理法列出來
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transcript.whisperx[175].text 立法院得要求嘛
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transcript.whisperx[177].text 所以尊重立法院
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transcript.whisperx[179].text 有這九大行庫
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transcript.whisperx[181].text 同時我就要問
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transcript.whisperx[182].text 當初問不出一個所以然
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transcript.whisperx[183].text 看不懂啦
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transcript.whisperx[184].text 這財政部啊
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transcript.whisperx[185].text 你只有說
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transcript.whisperx[186].text 哎呀 我有多少實力
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transcript.whisperx[187].text 我就拿多少席次
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transcript.whisperx[188].text 很好
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transcript.whisperx[189].text 但是大家會想到一個
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transcript.whisperx[190].text 應該是戰略性的
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transcript.whisperx[191].text 我介入國標金
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transcript.whisperx[192].text 因為它是一個最小的金控
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transcript.whisperx[193].text 大家就會想到說
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transcript.whisperx[194].text 你要推公共病
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transcript.whisperx[195].text 你要病張瘾
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transcript.whisperx[196].text 結果後來發現
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transcript.whisperx[197].text 沒有啊
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transcript.whisperx[198].text 後來發現說
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transcript.whisperx[199].text 喔 因為答案在這裡
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transcript.whisperx[200].text 機關放在身後
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transcript.whisperx[201].text 只有圖利
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transcript.whisperx[202].text 哪一個集團
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transcript.whisperx[203].text 他們的代表人
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transcript.whisperx[206].text 變成說
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transcript.whisperx[207].text 變了老半天
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transcript.whisperx[208].text 結果沒有病
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transcript.whisperx[209].text 只有做一件事情
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transcript.whisperx[210].text 一件事情
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transcript.whisperx[211].text 圖利特定集團
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transcript.whisperx[212].text 這個叫圖利耐斯集團
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transcript.whisperx[213].text 就變這個樣子啊
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transcript.whisperx[214].text 現在看到答案是這個
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transcript.whisperx[215].text 大家看到看不看不看
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transcript.whisperx[216].text 答案顯開了
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transcript.whisperx[217].text 答案顯開了
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transcript.whisperx[218].text 沒有什麼偽造的戰略
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transcript.whisperx[219].text 什麼都沒有
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transcript.whisperx[220].text 就是兩個字
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transcript.whisperx[221].text 四個字
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transcript.whisperx[222].text 圖或者六個字好了
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transcript.whisperx[223].text 圖利特定財團
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transcript.whisperx[224].text 這樣而已
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transcript.whisperx[225].text 把你的股份去押它
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transcript.whisperx[226].text 給它當一個副董事長
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transcript.whisperx[227].text 副董事長
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transcript.whisperx[228].text 十四行呢
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transcript.whisperx[229].text 上了董事長
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transcript.whisperx[230].text 現在總經理副董事長
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transcript.whisperx[231].text 坐領甘心
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transcript.whisperx[232].text 就這樣子而已啊
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transcript.whisperx[233].text 坐領高薪啊
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transcript.whisperx[234].text 還不是甘心而已
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transcript.whisperx[235].text 是高薪啊
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transcript.whisperx[236].text 部長
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transcript.whisperx[237].text 持相很難看哩
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transcript.whisperx[238].text 你做歷史罪人哩
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transcript.whisperx[239].text 總部長啊
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transcript.whisperx[240].text 你做這個決定
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transcript.whisperx[241].text 很難看哩
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transcript.whisperx[242].text 委員
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transcript.whisperx[243].text 我想在國票金這件事情
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transcript.whisperx[244].text 委員也好
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transcript.whisperx[245].text 還有社會各界
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transcript.whisperx[246].text 都有相關的一些意見
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transcript.whisperx[247].text 那當然我們知道
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transcript.whisperx[248].text 各個意見相關的一個原由
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transcript.whisperx[249].text 我們也都了解
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transcript.whisperx[250].text 那我們已經一再說過了
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transcript.whisperx[251].text 國票金控目前來說
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transcript.whisperx[252].text 關股指派的有關股權代表
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transcript.whisperx[253].text 他們首要的工作
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transcript.whisperx[254].text 就是完善他的公司治理
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transcript.whisperx[255].text 提升營運的一績效
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transcript.whisperx[256].text 那後續的做法
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transcript.whisperx[257].text 那當然
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transcript.whisperx[258].text 大家都說沒有做沒有做
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transcript.whisperx[259].text 你在推翻我
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transcript.whisperx[260].text 推翻我講的話嘛
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transcript.whisperx[261].text 你要
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transcript.whisperx[262].text 你這個背心
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transcript.whisperx[263].text 你要推翻我講的嗎
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transcript.whisperx[264].text 另外所謂
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transcript.whisperx[265].text 這是你的
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transcript.whisperx[266].text 你沒有站這東西
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transcript.whisperx[267].text 沒有就圖利而已
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transcript.whisperx[268].text 你圖利啊
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transcript.whisperx[269].text 圖利啊圖利
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transcript.whisperx[270].text 圖利這個事情
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transcript.whisperx[271].text 不要隨便灌在
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transcript.whisperx[272].text 不要灌在我們的同仁的身上
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transcript.whisperx[273].text 你做這個是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[274].text 就是給他一個副董事長
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transcript.whisperx[275].text 你有種就給他董事長
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transcript.whisperx[276].text 你給他一個董事長
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transcript.whisperx[277].text 這是公司治理內部的事
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transcript.whisperx[278].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[279].text 什麼叫內部的事
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transcript.whisperx[280].text 董事都聽你的啊
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transcript.whisperx[281].text 大家都了解啊
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transcript.whisperx[282].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[283].text 所以親戚都聽你的
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transcript.whisperx[284].text 所以清清楚楚看得到
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transcript.whisperx[285].text 你也沒有推動公共病
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transcript.whisperx[286].text 如果你今天說來
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transcript.whisperx[287].text 我介入國標金色病
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transcript.whisperx[288].text 張銀
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transcript.whisperx[289].text 我要給你掌聲
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transcript.whisperx[290].text 沒有啊
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transcript.whisperx[291].text 現在看到結果沒有這個東西啊
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transcript.whisperx[292].text 那我再問你
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transcript.whisperx[293].text 投信四合一啊
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transcript.whisperx[294].text 說今年底可以搞定是不是
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transcript.whisperx[295].text 朝這個目標進行
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transcript.whisperx[296].text 確定今年底
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transcript.whisperx[297].text 目前已經在做
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transcript.whisperx[298].text 要按照相關程序在做了當中
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transcript.whisperx[299].text 當然還要符合金管的法規
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transcript.whisperx[300].text 我們也要除了董事會
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transcript.whisperx[301].text 先經過金管會
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transcript.whisperx[302].text 要報金管會同意
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transcript.whisperx[303].text 所以目前來積極的進行當中
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transcript.whisperx[304].text 都按照程序在進行
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transcript.whisperx[305].text 我給你個機會補考機會
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transcript.whisperx[306].text 部長啊
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transcript.whisperx[307].text 有關於國標金
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transcript.whisperx[308].text 你們大剌剌的介入之後
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transcript.whisperx[309].text 介入之後
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transcript.whisperx[310].text 你的戰略目的是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[311].text 你可以寫個報告給我們
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transcript.whisperx[312].text 好不好給蔡委員
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transcript.whisperx[313].text 好我們可以提書面
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transcript.whisperx[314].text 你到底為什麼這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[315].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[316].text 因為外界一直質疑啊
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transcript.whisperx[317].text 你只有一個啊
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transcript.whisperx[318].text 就看到只有一個說
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transcript.whisperx[319].text 給一個董事長年薪上千萬
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transcript.whisperx[320].text 這樣而已
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transcript.whisperx[321].text 其他都沒有看到傳過水無痕
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transcript.whisperx[322].text 這很可悲啊
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transcript.whisperx[323].text 我知道各界都很關注
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transcript.whisperx[324].text 你的形象毀於一旦喔
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transcript.whisperx[325].text 是是是
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transcript.whisperx[326].text 好謝謝委員的指教謝謝