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范雲 @ 第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第26次全體委員會議
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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:07,000 | 謝謝昭偉,有請黃次長 |
| 00:00:07,000 | 00:00:09,000 | 好,請黃次長 |
| 00:00:09,000 | 00:00:11,000 | 好,委員好 |
| 00:00:11,000 | 00:00:14,000 | 次長早安,想請問次長 |
| 00:00:14,000 | 00:00:16,000 | 您記不記得4月30號 |
| 00:00:16,000 | 00:00:20,000 | 那我針對積極同意的入法 |
| 00:00:20,000 | 00:00:23,000 | 那有請法務部去研議 |
| 00:00:23,000 | 00:00:26,000 | 那當時就是您有上台回應嘛 |
| 00:00:26,000 | 00:00:28,000 | 那您當時承諾說 |
| 00:00:28,000 | 00:00:34,000 | 那兩個月內會給我可行性報告 |
| 00:00:34,000 | 00:00:36,000 | 記得 |
| 00:00:36,000 | 00:00:41,000 | 那我們的確是7月1號有收到你們的報告 |
| 00:00:41,000 | 00:00:43,000 | 那對此給予肯定 |
| 00:00:43,000 | 00:00:45,000 | 有按時寄給我們 |
| 00:00:45,000 | 00:00:47,000 | 那但是想請問次長 |
| 00:00:47,000 | 00:00:49,000 | 那您知道這個報告內容 |
| 00:00:49,000 | 00:00:50,000 | 您有沒有看過呢 |
| 00:00:50,000 | 00:00:51,000 | 當然知道 |
| 00:00:51,000 | 00:00:53,000 | 這個會議是我主持的 |
| 00:00:53,000 | 00:00:54,000 | 是我主持的這個研修會議 |
| 00:00:54,000 | 00:00:56,000 | 所以我清楚知道這個會議的內容 |
| 00:00:56,000 | 00:00:57,000 | 這個會議的內容 |
| 00:00:57,000 | 00:00:59,000 | 好,那是您主持的 |
| 00:00:59,000 | 00:01:01,000 | 那所以我今天想跟您請議啦 |
| 00:01:01,000 | 00:01:03,000 | 就是你們這整個報告內容 |
| 00:01:03,000 | 00:01:06,000 | 主要援引的是美國經驗 |
| 00:01:06,000 | 00:01:08,000 | 譬如說美國加州怎麼樣怎麼樣 |
| 00:01:08,000 | 00:01:10,000 | 美國法學會怎麼樣怎麼樣 |
| 00:01:10,000 | 00:01:11,000 | 那可是呢 |
| 00:01:11,000 | 00:01:15,000 | 你們結語是說世界各國 |
| 00:01:15,000 | 00:01:18,000 | 那所以以美國的例子為主 |
| 00:01:18,000 | 00:01:19,000 | 結語世界各國 |
| 00:01:19,000 | 00:01:22,000 | 可是當時我想請問次長 |
| 00:01:22,000 | 00:01:24,000 | 我質詢那時候我舉的例子是 |
| 00:01:24,000 | 00:01:26,000 | 我舉的例子是法國丹麥 |
| 00:01:26,000 | 00:01:28,000 | 那不知道次長是否記得 |
| 00:01:28,000 | 00:01:29,000 | 那可是你們法務部 |
| 00:01:29,000 | 00:01:31,000 | 只是回覆美國經驗 |
| 00:01:31,000 | 00:01:33,000 | 這個國際比較上 |
| 00:01:33,000 | 00:01:36,000 | 我認為還是不夠完整 |
| 00:01:36,000 | 00:01:39,000 | 那不知道次長覺得如何呢 |
| 00:01:39,000 | 00:01:40,000 | 各位報告 |
| 00:01:40,000 | 00:01:41,000 | 事實上當天會議裡面 |
| 00:01:41,000 | 00:01:43,000 | 在座的很多專家學者 |
| 00:01:43,000 | 00:01:45,000 | 其實對這個積極同意這件事情 |
| 00:01:45,000 | 00:01:47,000 | 事實上他們都有不同的見解 |
| 00:01:47,000 | 00:01:49,000 | 大部分人就認為 |
| 00:01:49,000 | 00:01:50,000 | 就目前我們實務上運作的結果 |
| 00:01:50,000 | 00:01:52,000 | 就對這個違反性自主 |
| 00:01:52,000 | 00:01:54,000 | 其實它已經擴得非常非常大了 |
| 00:01:54,000 | 00:01:57,000 | 所以沒有必要再就這個積極同意 |
| 00:01:57,000 | 00:01:58,000 | 這邊把它入法化 |
| 00:01:58,000 | 00:02:00,000 | 事實上也委員認為 |
| 00:02:00,000 | 00:02:03,000 | 最高法院的判決其實有點誤解了 |
| 00:02:03,000 | 00:02:04,000 | 我們積極同意的這個概念 |
| 00:02:04,000 | 00:02:07,000 | 所以說經過一個充分的溝通之後 |
| 00:02:07,000 | 00:02:09,000 | 大部分委員認為就是說 |
| 00:02:09,000 | 00:02:10,000 | 對積極同意這個 |
| 00:02:10,000 | 00:02:12,000 | 是否有把它入法的 |
| 00:02:12,000 | 00:02:14,000 | 明文化的必要有所基於 |
| 00:02:14,000 | 00:02:16,000 | 那次長您應該記得 |
| 00:02:16,000 | 00:02:18,000 | 當時我舉了幾個新聞事件 |
| 00:02:18,000 | 00:02:21,000 | 那其實就是很明確的 |
| 00:02:21,000 | 00:02:24,000 | 我們看到就是一個性暴力 |
| 00:02:24,000 | 00:02:26,000 | 譬如說當事人已經酒醉了 |
| 00:02:26,000 | 00:02:30,000 | 然後後來卻說他並沒有拒絕等等 |
| 00:02:30,000 | 00:02:33,000 | 那其實如果不用積極同意的話 |
| 00:02:33,000 | 00:02:38,000 | 那這些就是性暴力的這些受害者 |
| 00:02:38,000 | 00:02:41,000 | 完全沒有辦法去得到他要的正義 |
| 00:02:41,000 | 00:02:44,000 | 那我還是請次長 |
| 00:02:44,000 | 00:02:47,000 | 你是不是至少就報告來講 |
| 00:02:47,000 | 00:02:48,000 | 以我來看 |
| 00:02:48,000 | 00:02:50,000 | 你的結語寫世界各國 |
| 00:02:50,000 | 00:02:52,000 | 可是裡面的例子都只有美國 |
| 00:02:52,000 | 00:02:57,000 | 那我們看不到其實在各種女性的權益保障 |
| 00:02:57,000 | 00:02:59,000 | 就是更積極的國家 |
| 00:02:59,000 | 00:03:01,000 | 譬如我剛講的丹麥跟法國 |
| 00:03:01,000 | 00:03:04,000 | 其實相對來講對女性的權益的保障 |
| 00:03:04,000 | 00:03:06,000 | 都比美國好 |
| 00:03:06,000 | 00:03:09,000 | 那我們看到的美國的國會議員 |
| 00:03:09,000 | 00:03:11,000 | 其實比我們台灣還要低 |
| 00:03:11,000 | 00:03:13,000 | 就女性的這個參與的比例 |
| 00:03:13,000 | 00:03:16,000 | 所以是不是還是可以再去研議一下 |
| 00:03:16,000 | 00:03:19,000 | 至少把各國經驗拿出來 |
| 00:03:19,000 | 00:03:22,000 | 讓我們看到為什麼你們覺得在這件事情上 |
| 00:03:22,000 | 00:03:25,000 | 我們要學習的是美國 |
| 00:03:25,000 | 00:03:27,000 | 而不是丹麥跟法國 |
| 00:03:27,000 | 00:03:30,000 | 至少就女性參與決策權來講 |
| 00:03:30,000 | 00:03:33,000 | 丹麥跟法國是遠比美國好的 |
| 00:03:33,000 | 00:03:35,000 | 那我們台灣在女性參與的部分 |
| 00:03:35,000 | 00:03:37,000 | 其實是比美國強 |
| 00:03:37,000 | 00:03:39,000 | 所以這部分我們是不是要學更好的 |
| 00:03:39,000 | 00:03:42,000 | 而不是學那個實質女性的 |
| 00:03:42,000 | 00:03:45,000 | 參與決策的比例低於台灣的國家 |
| 00:03:45,000 | 00:03:48,000 | 好那我們就回去把這個丹麥跟法國的立法令 |
| 00:03:48,000 | 00:03:50,000 | 再做一個補充的報告 |
| 00:03:50,000 | 00:03:51,000 | 至少要說明我們說 |
| 00:03:51,000 | 00:03:53,000 | 為什麼你採取的是哪個 |
| 00:03:53,000 | 00:03:54,000 | 為什麼不採取丹麥好不好 |
| 00:03:54,000 | 00:03:56,000 | 好了解謝謝 |
| 00:03:56,000 | 00:04:00,000 | 好那今天我們的主題是獨駕 |
| 00:04:00,000 | 00:04:04,000 | 那我們有看到法務部針對獨駕末端的行為 |
| 00:04:04,000 | 00:04:06,000 | 是全面提高法則 |
| 00:04:06,000 | 00:04:08,000 | 譬如說駕車的部分 |
| 00:04:08,000 | 00:04:10,000 | 原本是三年以下有期徒刑 |
| 00:04:10,000 | 00:04:12,000 | 現在改為五年 |
| 00:04:12,000 | 00:04:14,000 | 駕車致重傷是一年變三年 |
| 00:04:14,000 | 00:04:17,000 | 那再犯的話也是更嚴格 |
| 00:04:17,000 | 00:04:19,000 | 那駕車致死的話 |
| 00:04:19,000 | 00:04:21,000 | 從原本三年以上十年以下 |
| 00:04:21,000 | 00:04:24,000 | 改成五年以上十二年以下 |
| 00:04:24,000 | 00:04:26,000 | 我想這的確有反應 |
| 00:04:26,000 | 00:04:28,000 | 就是民眾的一個 |
| 00:04:28,000 | 00:04:30,000 | 就是對這件事情的無法容忍 |
| 00:04:30,000 | 00:04:32,000 | 所以加重刑責的部分 |
| 00:04:32,000 | 00:04:34,000 | 我們非常的支持 |
| 00:04:34,000 | 00:04:36,000 | 那再來的部分 |
| 00:04:36,000 | 00:04:38,000 | 我想原本我關心的是 |
| 00:04:38,000 | 00:04:41,000 | 毒品跟列管的先驅原料製造 |
| 00:04:41,000 | 00:04:44,000 | 因為我覺得在源頭要能控制 |
| 00:04:44,000 | 00:04:46,000 | 其實對這件事情來講 |
| 00:04:46,000 | 00:04:48,000 | 在下游就能夠省去 |
| 00:04:48,000 | 00:04:50,000 | 很多的這個力道 |
| 00:04:50,000 | 00:04:52,000 | 那我看了你們相關的法規 |
| 00:04:52,000 | 00:04:54,000 | 其實原本就已經有重罰 |
| 00:04:54,000 | 00:04:56,000 | 這沒錯吧 |
| 00:04:56,000 | 00:04:58,000 | 那所以你們現在是透過把依托米紙 |
| 00:04:58,000 | 00:05:00,000 | 升列為第一級毒品 |
| 00:05:00,000 | 00:05:05,000 | 先驅原料也列為第四級毒品的方式來防範 |
| 00:05:05,000 | 00:05:07,000 | 這樣沒錯吧 |
| 00:05:07,000 | 00:05:09,000 | 沒有問題 沒錯 對 |
| 00:05:09,000 | 00:05:11,000 | 那今天我想進一步請問您的是 |
| 00:05:11,000 | 00:05:14,000 | 就是你們也有規範了 |
| 00:05:14,000 | 00:05:19,000 | 是先驅化學品的工業原料流紅 |
| 00:05:19,000 | 00:05:22,000 | 就是原本就有申報級檢查規範 |
| 00:05:22,000 | 00:05:24,000 | 這樣也沒錯吧 |
| 00:05:24,000 | 00:05:28,000 | 如果它因為有這個工業上使用 |
| 00:05:28,000 | 00:05:29,000 | 經濟上 產業上使用 |
| 00:05:29,000 | 00:05:32,000 | 它我們沒有辦法把列為毒品來管制的話 |
| 00:05:32,000 | 00:05:35,000 | 我們就透過這個行政管制的方式 |
| 00:05:35,000 | 00:05:37,000 | 我們經濟部它有個先驅化學品的 |
| 00:05:37,000 | 00:05:39,000 | 這個管制的模式來做管制 |
| 00:05:39,000 | 00:05:40,000 | 這叫行政管制 |
| 00:05:40,000 | 00:05:41,000 | 這是沒有問題的 |
| 00:05:41,000 | 00:05:45,000 | 那其實我相信法的規範已經都有了 |
| 00:05:45,000 | 00:05:47,000 | 懲罰也非常的強 |
| 00:05:47,000 | 00:05:49,000 | 我說針對源頭的部分 |
| 00:05:49,000 | 00:05:51,000 | 那我現在比較想了解的 |
| 00:05:51,000 | 00:05:53,000 | 或者會比較擔心的是 |
| 00:05:53,000 | 00:05:56,000 | 實務上到底能不能完整的掌握 |
| 00:05:56,000 | 00:05:59,000 | 成品跟原料的流向 |
| 00:05:59,000 | 00:06:01,000 | 那我想這個會是重中之重 |
| 00:06:01,000 | 00:06:04,000 | 那我們看到就是相關的報導 |
| 00:06:04,000 | 00:06:06,000 | 這個原料真的是很可怕 |
| 00:06:06,000 | 00:06:10,000 | 它就是販毒的手段不斷的改變 |
| 00:06:10,000 | 00:06:15,000 | 包含就是毒硝假冒知名化學公司走私20億原料 |
| 00:06:15,000 | 00:06:18,000 | 那還有這個緝毒犬也聞不出來 |
| 00:06:18,000 | 00:06:21,000 | 就是要闖關偽造沉沐玉乳 |
| 00:06:21,000 | 00:06:24,000 | 依托密質還可以偽裝沉沐玉乳 |
| 00:06:24,000 | 00:06:25,000 | 所以我想問的是說 |
| 00:06:25,000 | 00:06:30,000 | 法務部整合六大機關的溯源斷根 |
| 00:06:30,000 | 00:06:32,000 | 因為你們說整合了六大機關嘛 |
| 00:06:32,000 | 00:06:35,000 | 到底如何進行從源頭的部分 |
| 00:06:35,000 | 00:06:39,000 | 就是從化學原料到民生用品 |
| 00:06:39,000 | 00:06:42,000 | 去因應它這個手段不斷的改變 |
| 00:06:42,000 | 00:06:44,000 | 那個次長可以簡單講一下嗎 |
| 00:06:44,000 | 00:06:47,000 | 各位報告溯源斷根涉及到共犯的追查 |
| 00:06:47,000 | 00:06:49,000 | 事實上這個六大系統 |
| 00:06:49,000 | 00:06:51,000 | 台高檢他有一個平台 |
| 00:06:51,000 | 00:06:53,000 | 把整合所有的六大茶器機關 |
| 00:06:53,000 | 00:06:54,000 | 他定期來召會 |
| 00:06:54,000 | 00:06:58,000 | 來就當前毒品的茶器趨勢做一個研討 |
| 00:06:58,000 | 00:06:59,000 | 這是組織面 |
| 00:06:59,000 | 00:07:01,000 | 另外就這一個 |
| 00:07:03,000 | 00:07:06,000 | 我們另外還有這個監濟獎金的部分 |
| 00:07:06,000 | 00:07:09,000 | 我們另外就這個共犯的溯源 |
| 00:07:09,000 | 00:07:11,000 | 如果有採獲到共犯 |
| 00:07:11,000 | 00:07:13,000 | 其實他有比較高額的檢舉獎金 |
| 00:07:13,000 | 00:07:15,000 | 這是透過檢舉獎金的部分 |
| 00:07:15,000 | 00:07:19,000 | 來就這一個共犯溯源斷根來做處理 |
| 00:07:19,000 | 00:07:21,000 | 最重要的是台高檢 |
| 00:07:21,000 | 00:07:22,000 | 他整合六大平台 |
| 00:07:22,000 | 00:07:23,000 | 他有一個專案茶器 |
| 00:07:23,000 | 00:07:26,000 | 他會定期不斷不斷有新的專案 |
| 00:07:26,000 | 00:07:27,000 | 不斷的去查緝 |
| 00:07:27,000 | 00:07:30,000 | 他去查緝這個相關的共犯的結構 |
| 00:07:30,000 | 00:07:31,000 | 所以透過一個平台 |
| 00:07:31,000 | 00:07:33,000 | 透過一個實務茶器 |
| 00:07:33,000 | 00:07:34,000 | 透過一個獎金的獎勵 |
| 00:07:34,000 | 00:07:37,000 | 多管其道多元的來溯源斷根 |
| 00:07:37,000 | 00:07:40,000 | 好 謝謝次長的回應 |
| 00:07:40,000 | 00:07:42,000 | 那我們了解 |
| 00:07:42,000 | 00:07:45,000 | 就是除了喪失煙彈之外 |
| 00:07:45,000 | 00:07:49,000 | 其實毒價者也涉及多重毒品的混合濫用 |
| 00:07:49,000 | 00:07:50,000 | 這沒錯 |
| 00:07:50,000 | 00:07:55,000 | 而且可能會占就是茶器量占比已經超過半數了 |
| 00:07:55,000 | 00:07:59,000 | 可是就是我想跟您請教的是 |
| 00:07:59,000 | 00:08:02,000 | 我們看到相關的報導 |
| 00:08:02,000 | 00:08:06,000 | 報導這個毒品背後成品原料的販運鏈 |
| 00:08:06,000 | 00:08:08,000 | 涉及多個國家 |
| 00:08:08,000 | 00:08:11,000 | 那您剛剛雖然講就是說 |
| 00:08:11,000 | 00:08:14,000 | 你們協同整合六大機關對不對 |
| 00:08:14,000 | 00:08:15,000 | 那可是呢 |
| 00:08:15,000 | 00:08:20,000 | 就是前高檢署檢察官王傑托 |
| 00:08:20,000 | 00:08:22,000 | 他接受訪問的時候他說 |
| 00:08:22,000 | 00:08:25,000 | 其實對境外的主導機關是誰 |
| 00:08:25,000 | 00:08:27,000 | 主政機關是誰沒有 |
| 00:08:27,000 | 00:08:30,000 | 他認為目前有多頭馬車 |
| 00:08:30,000 | 00:08:32,000 | 就是到底出問題的時候 |
| 00:08:32,000 | 00:08:35,000 | 是要找調查局刑事局或海巡署 |
| 00:08:35,000 | 00:08:38,000 | 所以他認為這個整個報導最後的結論是說 |
| 00:08:38,000 | 00:08:41,000 | 緝毒機關混亂的情形還是存在 |
| 00:08:41,000 | 00:08:44,000 | 國內案件可由高檢署主導 |
| 00:08:44,000 | 00:08:46,000 | 如同您剛剛提到的 |
| 00:08:46,000 | 00:08:51,000 | 可是境外毒品的案件就缺少了單一窗口 |
| 00:08:51,000 | 00:08:54,000 | 那不知道次長是否同意這個說法呢 |
| 00:08:54,000 | 00:08:56,000 | 這個當然我沒有辦法贊成 |
| 00:08:56,000 | 00:08:58,000 | 就是說所有的案件的偵辦 |
| 00:08:58,000 | 00:09:01,000 | 他的偵辦主體都是由檢察官來主導 |
| 00:09:01,000 | 00:09:04,000 | 所有的司法系統 |
| 00:09:04,000 | 00:09:08,000 | 他都是檢察官的這個政察輔助機關 |
| 00:09:08,000 | 00:09:12,000 | 所以他會統一在檢察官主導範圍內去偵辦所有案件 |
| 00:09:12,000 | 00:09:13,000 | 包括這個毒品案件 |
| 00:09:13,000 | 00:09:16,000 | 那國外的部分我們現在我們法務部調查局 |
| 00:09:16,000 | 00:09:18,000 | 或者是我們警政署海軍署 |
| 00:09:18,000 | 00:09:19,000 | 他國外都有法務秘書 |
| 00:09:19,000 | 00:09:21,000 | 在國外有相當的聯絡窗口 |
| 00:09:21,000 | 00:09:23,000 | 他各自有各自的情治管道 |
| 00:09:23,000 | 00:09:26,000 | 各自有各自的司法互助的系統去做運作 |
| 00:09:26,000 | 00:09:28,000 | 他其實不是多頭馬車 |
| 00:09:28,000 | 00:09:30,000 | 他是一個多元情治管道的收集 |
| 00:09:30,000 | 00:09:34,000 | 全部彙整到檢察官來做一個這個偵察主體的偵辦 |
| 00:09:34,000 | 00:09:36,000 | 所以他不是多元多頭馬車 |
| 00:09:36,000 | 00:09:38,000 | 他是有一個偵察主體在負責 |
| 00:09:38,000 | 00:09:42,000 | 所以您認為不需要單一窗口是這樣嗎 |
| 00:09:42,000 | 00:09:44,000 | 所有的偵辦都會回到檢察官來 |
| 00:09:44,000 | 00:09:45,000 | 所有的案件 |
| 00:09:45,000 | 00:09:48,000 | 可是為什麼這位王檢察官他認為 |
| 00:09:48,000 | 00:09:51,000 | 就是目前是多頭馬車呢 |
| 00:09:51,000 | 00:09:52,000 | 這個是個說法問題 |
| 00:09:52,000 | 00:09:54,000 | 他唯一的偵察主體是檢察官 |
| 00:09:54,000 | 00:09:56,000 | 他多頭也許是偵察機關 |
| 00:09:56,000 | 00:09:57,000 | 因為我們現在有一個大系統 |
| 00:09:57,000 | 00:10:00,000 | 他可能都有其他的各自的情治管道 |
| 00:10:00,000 | 00:10:02,000 | 所以這個叫做多頭馬車嗎 |
| 00:10:02,000 | 00:10:05,000 | 為什麼我們不說他有多元的情治管道來源呢 |
| 00:10:05,000 | 00:10:07,000 | 所以您認為不是多頭馬車 |
| 00:10:07,000 | 00:10:10,000 | 是多元的情治管道來源 |
| 00:10:10,000 | 00:10:11,000 | 情治來源對 |
| 00:10:11,000 | 00:10:13,000 | 那最後因為時間差不多了 |
| 00:10:13,000 | 00:10:16,000 | 我想問就是我們剛剛講那個來源 |
| 00:10:16,000 | 00:10:18,000 | 涉及十幾個國家 |
| 00:10:18,000 | 00:10:21,000 | 可是我們看到司法互助其實有困難 |
| 00:10:21,000 | 00:10:23,000 | 寮國柬埔寨緬甸 |
| 00:10:23,000 | 00:10:25,000 | 我們都完全沒有司法互助 |
| 00:10:25,000 | 00:10:27,000 | 那請問在這個情況下 |
| 00:10:27,000 | 00:10:30,000 | 你如何建立國際緝毒合作網 |
| 00:10:30,000 | 00:10:32,000 | 如何加強邊境防堵 |
| 00:10:32,000 | 00:10:33,000 | 各位報告 |
| 00:10:33,000 | 00:10:35,000 | 我們的情治合作不見得 |
| 00:10:35,000 | 00:10:37,000 | 一定要有正式司法互助的管道 |
| 00:10:37,000 | 00:10:40,000 | 當然東南亞有些國家因為政治局勢關係 |
| 00:10:40,000 | 00:10:43,000 | 也許我們沒辦法在外派的駐管 |
| 00:10:43,000 | 00:10:46,000 | 但是事實上他們執法第一線的情治合作 |
| 00:10:46,000 | 00:10:47,000 | 即使是沒有駐管 |
| 00:10:47,000 | 00:10:49,000 | 即使是沒有正式司法互助 |
| 00:10:49,000 | 00:10:51,000 | 其實他私底下的這個情治交換 |
| 00:10:51,000 | 00:10:52,000 | 也是非常非常的願意 |
| 00:10:52,000 | 00:10:54,000 | 所以你們現在跟外交部的合作非常好 |
| 00:10:54,000 | 00:10:56,000 | 都不需要協助嗎 |
| 00:10:56,000 | 00:10:58,000 | 如果有需要外交部 |
| 00:10:58,000 | 00:11:02,000 | 如果政治或非政治的請外交部協助 |
| 00:11:02,000 | 00:11:03,000 | 這沒有問題 |
| 00:11:03,000 | 00:11:04,000 | 都沒有問題 |
| 00:11:04,000 | 00:11:05,000 | 對 都會 |
| 00:11:05,000 | 00:11:06,000 | 那這樣子好了 |
| 00:11:06,000 | 00:11:09,000 | 就是說如果您認為單一窗口不需要 |
| 00:11:09,000 | 00:11:11,000 | 已經有了或者是 |
| 00:11:11,000 | 00:11:15,000 | 跟其他的國家司法互助也沒有困難的話 |
| 00:11:15,000 | 00:11:17,000 | 那可以把相關的這個內容 |
| 00:11:17,000 | 00:11:20,000 | 就是用一個報告讓本席了解好不好 |
| 00:11:20,000 | 00:11:23,000 | 因為我們覺得這個源頭還是最重要的 |
| 00:11:23,000 | 00:11:24,000 | 好 我們一個月內給 |
| 00:11:24,000 | 00:11:25,000 | 一個月內給 |
| 00:11:25,000 | 00:11:26,000 | 一個月可以吧 |
| 00:11:26,000 | 00:11:27,000 | 因為既然都沒問題的話 |
| 00:11:27,000 | 00:11:28,000 | 好 謝謝 |
| 00:11:28,000 | 00:11:29,000 | 好 謝謝 |