| IVOD_ID |
170638 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170638 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
22 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-22T10:15:52+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-22T10:23:54+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:02 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/7469000803f9b6aafa49cff7828aea064220b467350b4647aeb2ac4a95fc824b165d56d12b5959f05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:15:52 - 10:23:54 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第22次全體委員會議（事由：一、繼續審查：
（一） 本院委員賴瑞隆等17人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
（二） 本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具「能源管理法第七條條文修正草案」案。
（三） 本院委員蔡其昌等19人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
（四） 本院委員鍾佳濱等20人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
（五） 本院委員邱議瑩等17人擬具「能源管理法增訂第十九條之二及第二十七條之一條文草案」案。
二、審查：
（六） 行政院函請審議「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」。
（七） 本院委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
（八） 本院委員郭國文等16人擬具「能源管理法增訂第十九條之二及第二十七條之一條文草案」案。
（九） 本院委員徐欣瑩等16人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
（十） 本院委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等16人擬具「能源管理法第二條條文修正草案」案。
（十一） 本院委員楊瓊瓔等23人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
（十二） 本院委員陳亭妃等20人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
（十三） 本院委員邱志偉等16人擬具「能源管理法部分條文修正草案」案。（詢答）
（第十三案如未接獲院會交付審查之議事處來文，則不予審查。）） |
| transcript.pyannote[0].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[0].start |
0.03096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[0].end |
0.36846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[1].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[1].start |
0.89159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[1].end |
2.83221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[2].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[2].start |
22.42409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[2].end |
23.09909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[3].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[3].start |
23.26784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[3].end |
24.41534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[4].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[4].start |
24.60096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[4].end |
25.71471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[5].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[5].start |
32.05971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[5].end |
34.05096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[6].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[6].start |
34.82721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[6].end |
39.82221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[7].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[7].start |
40.41284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[7].end |
43.97346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[8].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[8].start |
44.91846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[8].end |
49.35659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[9].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[9].start |
50.06534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[9].end |
53.57534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[10].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[10].start |
53.74409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[10].end |
54.03096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[11].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[11].start |
54.03096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[11].end |
61.35471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[12].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[12].start |
61.00034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[12].end |
61.79346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[13].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[13].start |
62.21534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[13].end |
63.90284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[14].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[14].start |
64.94909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[14].end |
67.61534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[15].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[15].start |
67.98659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[15].end |
69.13409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[16].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[16].start |
69.67409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[16].end |
70.66971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[17].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[17].start |
71.64846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[17].end |
75.22596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[18].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[18].start |
75.49596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[18].end |
76.74471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[19].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[19].start |
77.21721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[19].end |
79.02284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[20].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[20].start |
79.64721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[20].end |
81.48659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[21].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[21].start |
82.31346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[21].end |
82.61721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[22].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[22].start |
82.70159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[22].end |
84.45659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[23].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[23].start |
85.75596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[23].end |
86.81909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[24].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[24].start |
87.37596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[24].end |
90.80159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[25].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[25].start |
91.89846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[25].end |
93.77159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[26].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[26].start |
94.32846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[26].end |
98.17596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[27].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[27].start |
98.59784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[27].end |
99.22221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[28].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[28].start |
100.01534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[28].end |
100.67346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[29].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[29].start |
100.92659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[29].end |
101.17971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[30].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[30].start |
101.66909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[30].end |
104.75721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[31].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[31].start |
105.33096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[31].end |
109.24596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[32].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[32].start |
109.75221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[32].end |
112.45221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[33].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[33].start |
113.14409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[33].end |
115.94534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[34].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[34].start |
116.26596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[34].end |
120.06284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[35].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[35].start |
120.43409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[35].end |
122.05409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[36].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[36].start |
122.50971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[36].end |
125.26034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[37].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[37].start |
125.59784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[37].end |
126.07034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[38].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[38].start |
126.07034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[38].end |
126.35721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[39].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[39].start |
126.45846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[39].end |
126.88034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[40].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[40].start |
127.06596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[40].end |
128.98971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[41].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[41].start |
129.79971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[41].end |
130.05284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[42].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[42].start |
131.09909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[42].end |
132.09471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[43].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[43].start |
132.39846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[43].end |
133.19159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[44].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[44].start |
133.81596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[44].end |
134.59221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[45].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[45].start |
135.50346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[45].end |
136.90409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[46].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[46].start |
137.29221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[46].end |
138.05159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[47].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[47].start |
138.60846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[47].end |
141.19034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[48].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[48].start |
141.34221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[48].end |
142.03409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[49].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[49].start |
142.92846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[49].end |
143.75534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[50].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[50].start |
144.59909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[50].end |
145.84784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[51].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[51].start |
145.93221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[51].end |
147.70409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[52].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[52].start |
148.29471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[52].end |
150.13409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[53].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[53].start |
151.39971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[53].end |
153.52596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[54].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[54].start |
153.03659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[54].end |
153.96471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[55].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[55].start |
154.11659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[55].end |
154.48784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[56].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[56].start |
154.48784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[56].end |
154.89284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[57].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[57].start |
154.89284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[57].end |
157.13721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[58].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[58].start |
154.90971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[58].end |
155.02784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[59].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[59].start |
157.35659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[59].end |
158.03159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[60].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[60].start |
158.03159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[60].end |
161.25471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[61].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[61].start |
158.08221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[61].end |
158.18346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[62].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[62].start |
161.74409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[62].end |
162.90846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[63].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[63].start |
163.51596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[63].end |
164.32596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[64].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[64].start |
164.74784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[64].end |
167.32971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[65].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[65].start |
167.95409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[65].end |
172.05471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[66].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[66].start |
172.86471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[66].end |
175.41284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[67].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[67].start |
175.71659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[67].end |
176.66159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[68].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[68].start |
177.28596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[68].end |
180.67784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[69].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[69].start |
180.96471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[69].end |
181.33596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[70].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[70].start |
181.43721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[70].end |
183.00659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[71].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[71].start |
183.54659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[71].end |
185.06534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[72].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[72].start |
185.70659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[72].end |
186.53346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[73].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[73].start |
187.84971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[73].end |
188.71034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[74].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[74].start |
189.04784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[74].end |
191.35971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[75].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[75].start |
191.73096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[75].end |
192.89534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[76].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[76].start |
193.35096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[76].end |
194.16096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[77].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[77].start |
194.31284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[77].end |
195.88221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[78].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[78].start |
196.15221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[78].end |
198.37971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[79].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[79].start |
198.51471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[79].end |
199.39221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[80].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[80].start |
200.08409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[80].end |
201.45096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[81].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[81].start |
202.31159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[81].end |
205.75409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[82].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[82].start |
206.12534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[82].end |
209.12909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[83].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[83].start |
209.53409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[83].end |
211.62659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[84].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[84].start |
212.04846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[84].end |
216.09846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[85].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[85].start |
216.55409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[85].end |
224.13096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[86].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[86].start |
218.68034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[86].end |
220.14846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[87].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[87].start |
224.36721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[87].end |
224.73846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[88].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[88].start |
224.51909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[88].end |
225.66659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[89].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[89].start |
225.63284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[89].end |
226.35846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[90].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[90].start |
225.91971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[90].end |
226.51034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[91].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[91].start |
226.51034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[91].end |
229.36221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[92].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[92].start |
229.54784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[92].end |
233.20971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[93].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[93].start |
233.32784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[93].end |
234.17159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[94].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[94].start |
234.30659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[94].end |
238.12034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[95].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[95].start |
238.25534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[95].end |
238.60971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[96].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[96].start |
238.91346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[96].end |
239.04846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[97].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[97].start |
239.09909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[97].end |
241.56284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[98].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[98].start |
239.18346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[98].end |
240.12846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[99].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[99].start |
241.84971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[99].end |
243.11534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[100].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[100].start |
243.75659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[100].end |
245.10659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[101].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[101].start |
245.78159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[101].end |
253.03784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[102].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[102].start |
250.16909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[102].end |
251.09721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[103].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[103].start |
253.03784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[103].end |
253.10534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[104].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[104].start |
253.10534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[104].end |
255.94034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[105].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[105].start |
255.95721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[105].end |
256.00784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[106].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[106].start |
256.22721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[106].end |
256.95284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[107].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[107].start |
257.49284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[107].end |
259.36596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[108].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[108].start |
259.58534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[108].end |
262.11659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[109].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[109].start |
262.62284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[109].end |
263.24721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[110].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[110].start |
263.73659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[110].end |
265.81221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[111].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[111].start |
266.16659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[111].end |
266.79096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[112].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[112].start |
267.24659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[112].end |
267.26346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[113].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[113].start |
268.27596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[113].end |
268.84971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[114].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[114].start |
269.45721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[114].end |
270.16596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[115].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[115].start |
270.90846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[115].end |
273.10221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[116].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[116].start |
273.62534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[116].end |
273.87846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[117].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[117].start |
274.09784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[117].end |
275.21159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[118].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[118].start |
275.71784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[118].end |
278.46846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[119].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[119].start |
278.89034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[119].end |
280.37534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[120].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[120].start |
280.81409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[120].end |
281.62409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[121].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[121].start |
281.92784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[121].end |
288.99846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[122].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[122].start |
289.47096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[122].end |
292.86284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[123].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[123].start |
293.11596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[123].end |
295.93409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[124].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[124].start |
296.35596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[124].end |
297.45284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[125].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[125].start |
297.87471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[125].end |
298.92096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[126].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[126].start |
299.62971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[126].end |
300.74346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[127].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[127].start |
301.08096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[127].end |
302.43096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[128].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[128].start |
303.12284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[128].end |
306.73409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[129].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[129].start |
306.93659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[129].end |
307.59471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[130].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[130].start |
308.21909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[130].end |
310.48034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[131].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[131].start |
311.08784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[131].end |
312.15096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[132].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[132].start |
312.35346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[132].end |
314.80034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[133].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[133].start |
315.32346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[133].end |
317.26409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[134].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[134].start |
317.56784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[134].end |
317.77034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[135].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[135].start |
317.66909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[135].end |
317.87159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[136].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[136].start |
317.87159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[136].end |
319.20471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[137].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[137].start |
317.93909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[137].end |
318.09096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[138].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[138].start |
319.81221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[138].end |
320.38596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[139].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[139].start |
320.57159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[139].end |
320.84159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[140].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[140].start |
321.76971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[140].end |
322.37721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[141].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[141].start |
322.86659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[141].end |
325.58346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[142].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[142].start |
326.29221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[142].end |
333.63284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[143].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[143].start |
333.63284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[143].end |
334.10534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[144].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[144].start |
334.10534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[144].end |
340.48409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[145].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[145].start |
341.98596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[145].end |
343.67346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[146].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[146].start |
344.14596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[146].end |
346.50846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[147].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[147].start |
347.23409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[147].end |
349.07346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[148].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[148].start |
350.17034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[148].end |
351.26721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[149].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[149].start |
351.40221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[149].end |
351.99284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[150].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[150].start |
352.83659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[150].end |
353.54534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[151].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[151].start |
354.15284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[151].end |
355.38471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[152].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[152].start |
355.94159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[152].end |
357.13971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[153].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[153].start |
358.52346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[153].end |
360.85221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[154].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[154].start |
361.59471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[154].end |
364.54784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[155].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[155].start |
365.54346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[155].end |
366.62346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[156].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[156].start |
367.38284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[156].end |
368.49659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[157].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[157].start |
368.85096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[157].end |
370.33596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[158].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[158].start |
371.48346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[158].end |
371.66909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[159].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[159].start |
372.32721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[159].end |
374.31846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[160].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[160].start |
375.19596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[160].end |
375.88784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[161].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[161].start |
376.49534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[161].end |
379.90409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[162].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[162].start |
380.20784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[162].end |
380.78159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[163].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[163].start |
381.74346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[163].end |
381.97971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[164].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[164].start |
382.30034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[164].end |
383.76846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[165].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[165].start |
384.46034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[165].end |
386.08034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[166].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[166].start |
386.97471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[166].end |
387.75096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[167].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[167].start |
388.24034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[167].end |
389.57346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[168].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[168].start |
390.65346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[168].end |
390.92346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[169].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[169].start |
391.15971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[169].end |
393.60659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[170].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[170].start |
394.07909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[170].end |
394.83846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[171].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[171].start |
395.17596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[171].end |
396.10409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[172].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[172].start |
396.30659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[172].end |
398.16284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[173].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[173].start |
399.24284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[173].end |
399.46221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[174].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[174].start |
399.98534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[174].end |
401.55471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[175].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[175].start |
402.38159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[175].end |
402.88784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[176].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[176].start |
403.57971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[176].end |
405.89159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[177].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[177].start |
406.29659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[177].end |
408.15284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[178].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[178].start |
408.82784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[178].end |
411.42659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[179].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[179].start |
412.03409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[179].end |
412.99596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[180].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[180].start |
413.50221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[180].end |
414.85221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[181].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[181].start |
415.40909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[181].end |
419.18909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[182].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[182].start |
419.84721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[182].end |
420.82596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[183].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[183].start |
421.83846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[183].end |
426.09096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[184].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[184].start |
426.76596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[184].end |
428.09909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[185].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[185].start |
428.58846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[185].end |
429.48284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[186].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[186].start |
429.58409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[186].end |
431.54159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[187].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[187].start |
431.96346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[187].end |
435.97971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[188].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[188].start |
436.80659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[188].end |
438.08909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[189].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[189].start |
438.27471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[189].end |
440.78909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[190].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[190].start |
441.66659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[190].end |
443.50596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[191].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[191].start |
444.11346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[191].end |
445.00784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[192].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[192].start |
445.56471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[192].end |
450.28971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[193].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[193].start |
451.26846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[193].end |
453.52971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[194].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[194].start |
454.01909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[194].end |
455.20034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[195].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[195].start |
455.95971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[195].end |
458.69346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[196].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[196].start |
459.13221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[196].end |
460.95471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[197].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[197].start |
460.97159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[197].end |
460.98846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[198].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[198].start |
461.08971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[198].end |
463.04721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[199].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[199].start |
463.63784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[199].end |
466.10159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[200].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[200].start |
466.64159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[200].end |
467.35034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[201].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[201].start |
468.14346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[201].end |
471.34971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[202].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[202].start |
471.56909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[202].end |
473.44221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[203].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[203].start |
473.69534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[203].end |
476.80034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[204].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[204].start |
476.95221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[204].end |
478.65659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[205].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[205].start |
479.14596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[205].end |
480.04034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[206].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[206].start |
480.34409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[206].end |
481.32284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[207].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[207].start |
482.16659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[207].end |
483.58409375 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].start |
0 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].end |
3 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].text |
好 下一位資源請鄭天才委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].start |
22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].end |
24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].text |
主席有請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].start |
24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
請經濟部公務長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
30 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].text |
部長好 今天審查能源管理法 上次也有詢答過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
因為行政院版最近才送來 所以今天審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
50 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
這個能源管理法第二條 行政院版有第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
50 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
本席又提出第二條增加再生能源 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
行政院版有多一個第七款 熱能 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
熱能這兩個字 目前沒有定義 看不出來 我看了所有的法規沒有定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
71 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
在我們現行的能源管理法第四條 有熱能這兩個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
所以這個我們等一下可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
在行政院版的說明裡面 針對熱能 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
88 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
在說明二裡面特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
91 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
101 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
考量第四條有關氣電供生之規定 實務上以那管增氣及熱能 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
101 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
105 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
所以到底是增氣還是熱能 還是兩個字一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
105 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
109 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
所以就必須要去考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
109 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
116 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
熱能既然已經放在本法所稱的能源 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
116 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
120 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
那要不要另外把熱能 要不要另外做定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
120 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
125 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
這個是需要去討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
125 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
138 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
因為再生能源發展條例第三條對於再生能源有做定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
138 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
142 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
它包含了太陽能 生殖能 地熱能 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
142 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
148 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
所以如果沒有去注意看 以為熱能就是地熱能 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
148 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
154 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
沒有去注意看的話就是說行政院版未來通過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
154 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
159 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
這個熱能第七款就會誤以為 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
159 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
163 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
所以這個部分會有這樣的一個可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
163 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
167 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
因為畢竟執行的或是民間 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
167 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
172 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
他未必法規那麼的詳細的去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
172 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
177 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
所以這個部分因為在再生能源的定義裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
177 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
181 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
譬如說這個生殖能是什麼 另外再定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
181 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
185 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
地熱能另外再定義 海洋能也另外定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
185 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
191 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
所以我們在針對能源管理法第二條行政院版 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
191 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
195 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
加了一個熱能 所以就必須考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
195 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
199 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
何況第十條就有熱能的用字 但是沒有定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
199 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
205 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
所以這個部分為了讓大家都能夠很明確去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
205 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
209 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
我們再請行政院經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
209 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
214 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
這邊在研議在我們逐條審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
214 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
219 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
是不是要做這樣的一個 增加這樣的一個定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
219 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
225 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
所以這個部分我們再請經濟部這邊再評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
225 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
227 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
好 可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
227 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
229 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
我們再看看要再說明裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
229 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
232 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
增加您剛剛提到的定義或是在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
232 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
234 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
我們來加強說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
234 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
238 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
對對對 或是說能夠另外定義更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
238 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
241 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
這個是會 因為等於是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
241 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
250 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
它是跟這個再生能源發展條例的地熱能有所區別 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
250 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
253 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
就會很明確 就會很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
253 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
256 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
不然會一下子以為是這個地熱能 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
256 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
260 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
因為這個地熱能相關的這些定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
260 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
264 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
定義或是相關的這些規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
264 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
266 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
也都有相關的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
266 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
274 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
譬如說 因為有再生能源條例有地熱能 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
274 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
281 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
所以才會有地熱能碳刊以開發許可及管理辦法第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
281 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
286 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
它就有 所以這個會牽扯到 會相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
286 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
288 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
所以我的建議就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
288 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
292 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
地熱能的部分 如果能做出定義的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
292 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
298 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
如果 當然我們在築條的時候可以把它納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
298 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
300 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
這是第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
300 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
303 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
那我就回到這個地熱能這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
303 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
308 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
因為它是一個再生能源發展條例所明定的地熱能 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
308 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
315 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
所以相關地熱能的這些要去碳刊或是開發許可 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
315 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
318 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
就訂了一個管理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
318 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
322 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
這管理辦法裡面第四款 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
322 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
326 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
第一項的第四款 第九條的第四款 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
326 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
334 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
開發場址未以原住民族土地或部落及其周邊一定範圍內之供有土地者 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
334 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
338 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
應檢附於原住民族基本法第21條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
338 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
341 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
辦理之相關證明文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
342 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
344 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
現在在執行上 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
344 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
347 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
這個原住民族部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
347 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
352 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
跟我們的這些開發單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
352 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
356 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
或是這個主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
356 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
361 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
會產生一個一直以來的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
361 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
365 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
就是說這個 因為你們寫的是開發場址 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
365 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
367 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
開發場址 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
367 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
371 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
地熱能的開發場址 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
371 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
375 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
要依原基法21條 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
375 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
381 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
就變成說通常開發場址就是在地熱能的前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
381 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
384 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
一個開發場址 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
384 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
386 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
事實上地熱在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
386 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
390 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
地熱能在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
390 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
396 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
它的周邊就不是這個旁邊的部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
396 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
399 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
它可能會是另外一個部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
399 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
403 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
就會產生這樣的一個疑義 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
403 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
406 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
事實上我在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
406 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
408 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
我有召開過協調會 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
408 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
412 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
也邀請過這個經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
412 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
415 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
及應該是能源署吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
415 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
418 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
所以也討論過這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
418 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
421 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
所以你們要去針對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
421 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
這個管理辦法第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
或是其他的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
430 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
跟地熱能的探勘開發的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
430 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
432 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
要依原基法21條 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
432 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
434 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
來去辦理這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
434 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
437 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
部落諮商同意的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
437 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
439 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
這個就必須要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
439 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
因為現在目前就是有這樣的一個爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
當目前的做法就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
447 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
就是在那個地熱能 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
447 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
449 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
因為你地熱能開發場址 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
449 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
451 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
當然會比較平坦的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
451 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
454 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
對不對 事實上地熱在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
454 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
456 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
地熱能在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
456 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
458 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
它可能還 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
458 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
459 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
可能很遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
459 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
461 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
所以會產生這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
461 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
463 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
在執行上 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
463 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
468 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
對部落的諮商同意的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
468 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
471 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
執行上都會產生這樣的疑問 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
471 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
474 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
所以這個部分請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
474 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
477 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
經濟部能源署或是相關機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
477 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
479 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
再研議好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
479 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
481 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
來瞭解一下 |