| IVOD_ID |
170157 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170157 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第15次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第15次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-26T12:06:16+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-26T12:09:37+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:03:21 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/916068e634f873fcd229015555cd81df7745857797b3d9ef5efa3ea763081e7bbfec343d2020f60e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林俊憲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:06:16 - 12:09:37 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第15次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院財政委員會報告併案審查行政院函請審議、台灣民眾黨黨團、委員林思銘等21人、委員葛如鈞等20人、委員林楚茵等19人、委員賴惠員等17人、委員李彥秀等19人、委員賴士葆等20人、委員李柏毅等18人、委員郭國文等17人、委員林宜瑾等20人及委員鍾佳濱等23人分別擬具「虛擬資產服務法草案」案等4案。二、6月26日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、6月30日下午5時至6時為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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謝謝主席 謝謝各位同仁改善交通安全當然是每一位國會議員每一位立委同仁大家要努力的目標但是現在我們討論的這個案是公投案各位再仔細看它的內容它是關於罰款收入的用途 |
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那現在的罰款收入75%都到地方政府都在縣市政府那如果對於罰款的用途我們要來給他規範那應該就立法我們應該就修法他現在用去公投勞民傷財啊 |
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為什麼這個案不提案到委員會到院會大家來討論看交通罰款收入的比例要不要改變用途要不要有另外的強制規範你拿去弄公投公投通過了門檻要960萬票你公投如果單獨舉行成本要超過11億如果你綁大選也要多花2億 |
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作為立法委員我們發現有這樣的問題民眾黨團你應該提案到立法院來討論你拿去搞公投公投 交通也要來搞民粹同時啦我們公投法也有規定預算 租稅 薪資 人事這不能公投啦你這麼預算收入的用途你不能公投啦 |
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所以我希望民眾黨在提法律案的時候要思考周延如果有搞不清楚的話沒關係可以來請教我們的蔡奇章總長或莊瑞雄你這個不能公投的案你也提出來公投明明立委可以更快速有效率的來解決到底罰款的收入比率要不要調整 |
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交通違規罰單的收入用途在哪裡這我們可以來討論嗎為什麼一定要來弄到公投所以我覺得對於這個案子並不是真的要來關心交通安全要不然為什麼不直接在委員會來提案呢 |
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對於執法的形式 你說科技執法太多75%的紅燈的學生都在管理政府 他們都管理政府買的啊南白是地方執政比較多所以如果你覺得執法的形式不要多依賴或太多的科技執法 這可以討論但是在立法院討論啊 拿去搞公投你公投 你繞了一大圈 |
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好 謝謝林委員 |
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謝謝主席，謝謝各位同仁。 |
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改善交通安全當然是每一位國會議員、每一位立委同仁要努力的目標，但是現在我們討論的這個案是公投案。 |
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各位再仔細看它的內容，它是關於罰鍰收入的用途，現在的罰鍰收入75%都到地方政府、都在縣市政府，如果對於罰鍰的用途要來規範，我們應該就立法、應該就修法，但你們現在用公投，勞民傷財啊！ |
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為什麼這個案不提案到委員會、到院會大家來討論，看交通罰鍰收入的比例要不要改變、用途要不要有另外的強制規範？ |
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你們拿去弄公投，公投通過的門檻要960萬票，公投如果單獨舉行，成本超過11億；如果綁大選，也要多花2億。 |
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作為立法委員，發現有這樣的問題，民眾黨黨團應該提案到立法院來討論，你們拿去搞公投，交通的議題也要來搞民粹！ |
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同時，公投法也有規定，預算、租稅、薪資、人事不能公投，也就是現在預算收入的用途不能公投。 |
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所以我希望民眾黨在提案、在提法律案的時候要思考周延，如果有搞不清楚的地方，沒關係，可以來請教我們蔡其昌總召或莊瑞雄委員，這個不能公投的案，你們也提出來公投，明明立委可以更快速、有效率地來解決，到底罰鍰的收入比例要不要調整、交通違規罰單的收入用途在哪裡，我們可以來討論，為什麼一定要弄到公投？ |
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所以我覺得這個案子並不是真的要來關心交通安全，要不然為什麼不直接在委員會提案呢？ |
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對於執法的形式，你說科技執法太多，75%的紅單收入都在縣市，設備都是縣市政府買的，藍白的地方執政還比較多耶。 |
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所以如果你們覺得執法的形式不要太多依賴或有太多的科技執法，這可以討論，但是應該在立法院討論，你們卻拿去搞公投，繞了一大圈，為什麼我們自己就可以在立法解決的，要去搞民粹呢？謝謝。 |
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謝謝林委員。 |
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報告院會，各黨團推派之委員均已發言完畢。 |
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報告院會，現有台灣民眾黨黨團提議逕付二讀。 |
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林委員俊憲：（12時6分）謝謝主席，謝謝各位同仁。改善交通安全當然是每一位國會議員、每一位立委同仁要努力的目標，但是現在我們討論的這個案是公投案。各位再仔細看它的內容，它是關於罰鍰收入的用途，現在的罰鍰收入75%都到地方政府、都在縣市政府，如果對於罰鍰的用途要來規範，我們應該就立法、應該就修法，但你們現在用公投，勞民傷財啊！為什麼這個案不提案到委員會、到院會大家來討論，看交通罰鍰收入的比例要不要改變、用途要不要有另外的強制規範？你們拿去弄公投，公投通過的門檻要960萬票，公投如果單獨舉行，成本超過11億；如果綁大選，也要多花2億。作為立法委員，發現有這樣的問題，民眾黨黨團應該提案到立法院來討論，你們拿去搞公投，交通的議題也要來搞民粹！同時，公投法也有規定，預算、租稅、薪資、人事不能公投，也就是現在預算收入的用途不能公投。 |
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