| IVOD_ID |
169780 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169780 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-03T10:51:48+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-03T11:03:45+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:57 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5329b193fad04125f19e1b0493d79149a8e069b60cc25a5f77c83729728f4ea8e901f84a635eded85ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許智傑 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:51:48 - 11:03:45 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於數位發展部單位預算。
二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於數位發展部資通安全署單位預算。
三、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於數位發展部數位產業署單位預算。
四、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於國家通訊傳播委員會單位預算。
五、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管通訊傳播監督管理基金預算。
六、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管有線廣播電視事業發展基金預算。
【本次會議僅進行詢答；開會事由一至六預算提案截止收件時間：6月10日下午4時】） |
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委員早安部長好我想AI時代部長真的很辛苦謝謝首先先表示感謝就是現在全世界數位龍頭都到台灣來了是我還特別憋了一個回答的徽章這是去買的是用這勝利他們都有做對 |
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所以你要看就是現在全世界都到台灣了那昨天我有看到新聞那個部長也有去開幕那在這個時代裡面就是台灣除了是台積電的龍頭 |
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富國神山之外那我們的AI如何在其他的應用方面昨天我也有看到聯發科跟他們設計一個未來筆電可能有一番革命那在這個部分我們政府能做什麼 |
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我們現在在台灣的AI硬體產業已經是世界上的超級強國軟體比較弱我們有一個機會就是主權AI所謂主權AI好像譬如說前一陣子我們跟金管會還有台灣16家大型金融機構 |
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其實主要是那個金融機構他們合組了一個聯盟然後再開發一個主權AI他的概念就是說我們現在如果問Chad GPT或者Gemini問一些金融的問題結果他回答了講得頭頭是道可是他是依照美國的法律或者是新加坡的法律那我們就是希望建立一套那個台灣的 |
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那個金融主權的AI那我問他金融的問題他就依照台灣的法規來回答我們那這個本身第一個可以解決台灣的問題第二個這個是對民間產業是一個商機再來就是說我們台灣如果建立這個訓練主權AI的這個能力以後我們還可以外銷譬如說其他的國家其他的那個就是開發中國家或者是就是美中以外的國家他需要建立主權AI的時候我們也希望能把這個技術輸出 |
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那現在台灣的主權AI做到什麼程度現在事實上民間已經有成立公司了那據我們了解他們的狀況還不錯我不敢講相當不錯那也不方便講說是哪幾家公司就是由台灣的軟硬體公司大型的軟硬體公司合組了專門做主權AI的公司然後到東南亞所以上一次你跟我提過說有11億個Token |
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對現在來現在應該是13億13億13億個token喔這個是我們的資料喔這個我們內部就是我們台灣的資料這個是台灣主權AI訓練語料庫的所以你大概估計應該是什麼時候或者是我們要做到什麼程度才是有算是主權AI的水準到位 |
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OK 如果說是一般性的AI模型的話13億個Token的確是不夠啦但是如果說我們要做那個金融主權AI的話那我們就是去請那個跟金管會去合作然後把那個金融方面的這個資料尤其是政府擁有的著作權的資料釋放出來時間格局大概要到什麼程度我們希望是在 |
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三到六個月之內我們就是找到足夠的資料讓台灣的AI公司可以訓練他的主權AI的模型OK 三到六個月我會把時間記下來然後看看部長到時候那個成果要呈現給國人看這樣好不好 |
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好 沒問題啦 沒問題啦 雖然有點壓力 但是我們一定會努力的當然啦 有壓力才會進步嘛好 謝謝 謝謝委員好 那這個部分我想包括AI軟體的應用嘛就是說 主權AI的模式 AI應用軟體的新創那未來可以推到全世界其他的國家目前我們應該是20名內了吧 全世界 |
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應該是實際的實力應該是20名之內是沒有問題當然有各種不同的評比方式但是就是說整體我們台灣的AI實力應該是相當強的對啦就是說之前我記得去年是21嘛今年應該是20名內了沒看到現在最新的報告那當然我們 |
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二十免對我來講是不滿意的嘛 對不對我想部長也不滿意嘛是喔 我不滿意 希望更好所以 至少趕快先進入全十免嘛好 我們會努力 是一年有沒有機會喔 別這樣啦 這樣壓力太大了我們會努力喔 謝謝盡量努力喔 我想這個部分是全世界都在看嘛你看全世界 |
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AI together都到台灣來了所以台灣要怎麼創造變成世界的軟體的態度也是我們努力的目標所以這個部分麻煩部長努力一下那另外就是說剛剛副國委員也提到就是AI我現在其實想到就是一個AI時代的品德教育風險風險當然是 |
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你說沒有風險是不可能啦是 沒錯包括詐騙其實我們真的很討厭啦是那部長也被詐騙過啦我說的AI詐騙你不是說你也被刷了很多錢嗎那個不算詐騙那算是控制超出你的預期對 |
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那我想這個部分要怎麼樣去控制你看中國有那個差邊產業鏈AI差邊產業鏈這個部長應該都清楚了你就是花了一點小錢然後再來就是身為然後再來是學生作業用AI做交給老師這個未來其實通通交給AI變成他本身的學習力就一定會降低 |
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那他都讓AI去做他基本上就是一個欺騙是所以就是說在現在的情況下剛剛那個富貴委員有提到在AI基本法坦白講我一直希望AI基本法應該是在速發布的啦是被藍白把他一挪到其他委員會我是覺得很可惜是但是在這個情況之下我們能做什麼或者是說將來有沒有機會 |
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其實國科會當然它是很重要啦是但是AI基本法照例上應該在速發布是最適合啦是所以將來有沒有機會調整回來這個到時候我們還要立法院再溝通嘛是 謝謝委員在這個情況之下就是說 |
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我們能做的現在在國科會那邊但是我們一樣該做的事我們一樣去先設想到先出來做所以在AI時代的品德教育這一部分部長有沒有什麼規劃我先再舉一個那個教育部的例子你可以看到教育部現在他在推那個AI素養教育 |
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那跟數法部有沒有做結合甚至AI要有品德其實人更要有品德吧但是人的品德是教育部應該做的數法部可能管不到那麼多啦但是你從AI時代的品德教育跟教育部結合 |
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然後我也會要求教育部就是說人的品德教育其實在現在這個時代網路謾罵啦霸凌啦然後小錯誤無限上綱啦其實人好像已經脫離了很多品德的教育了那這些東西我們需要大聲疾呼需要重新再來更加的重視所以我們先從AI時代的品德教育做起那部長有沒有什麼想法 |
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我們現在會跟譬如說跟衛福部就有合作由衛福部去出一些題目就是兒少跟性平的題目讓我們去考那個AI各種AI模型我們現在有一個AI評測中心AIEC那我們會 |
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每週都會去評測全世界大概140多種主要的那個大型語言模型那等到那個衛福部把這個兒少跟性平的這個題目交給我們我們就去那個做評測然後去出那個成績單讓那個全台灣所有國人都知道說哪一些那個大型語言模型在兒少跟性平還有這些道德方面哪些做得比較好哪些做得比較不好那委員剛剛也提到就是有教育部那個部分那我們也會跟教育部去合作比如說我這幾個介紹未成年 |
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少女的影片對對如果是AI做的這樣他有沒有辦法對我這個就是我們要做一個評測還有另外一個就是說我們也會那個跟那些大型的那個公司像是Google啊Meta還有那個Line他們去商量就是說如果由他們的那個工具產生的AI的影片的話或者影像他一定要做標示有的是 |
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顯性標識有時隱性標識但是都要讓人家可以知道說這個是AI產生的就提醒那個民眾時間差不多我最後再給部長拜託您一個任務啦是就是說現在 |
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因為AI基本法在國科會但是這些相當的風險以及要怎麼樣給蘿蔔 或者怎麼樣給鞭子然後要掌握到一個什麼樣的程度我是建議書法部可以做這樣子的思考 |
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是沒有問題就是說從數化部我們本來就應該給你們做的但是雖然現在在別的單位但是我覺得你們還是該做啦是沒錯這個我們一定會做所以就是說在這個AI的風險跟AI時代的品德教育我是給部長這一個題目啦是AI時代的品德教育是那怎麼跟教育部結合是那怎麼樣從 |
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其實從到AI的管理到回到人性的管理啦是所以不管是同理心啦人性關懷啦科技倫理跟誠信啦數位的公民責任跟一般的公民責任是我想這個時代 |
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進步的太快了這些傳統的應該要重視的好像少了所以我希望說部長這一個部分可以多一點思考好 沒問題那下一次有機會我再來運聞其詳就是部長思考之後我們應該用務實的怎麼樣推動然後在蘿蔔跟棍子的這個平衡我們提供了什麼樣的具體的方式這樣說比較具體 |
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這樣子我們才能夠有一個將來怎麼樣去調整這個AI洪流AI的紅利AI的對全民的好的影響之外 |
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那個壞的影響我們如何去避免所以也請部長這一部分做一個比較大的思考那我們用一個整體的框架來推好不好這個框架就拜託部長來想我會陪你們一起推啦這個任務交給你們因為你們比較內行嘛但是品德教育是我最重視的所以我希望說在這個時代再加上我們的這一個 |
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對人的品德的教育的部分做一個整體的思考好不好好沒問題那這個就麻煩部長好謝謝委員好謝謝 |
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許委員智傑 |
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謝謝主席，請部長。 |
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主席 |
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請林部長。 |
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林部長宜敬 |
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委員早安。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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部長好。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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我想AI時代部長真的很辛苦。謝謝。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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首先先表示感謝。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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現在全世界數位龍頭都到臺灣來了，我還特別別一個輝達的徽章，這是去買的。 |
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林部長宜敬 |
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連這個生意他們都有做。對啊！ |
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許委員智傑 |
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所以你看，現在全世界都到臺灣。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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昨天我有看到新聞，部長也有去開幕嘛。是。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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在這個時代裡面，臺灣除了有台積電這個龍頭、護國神山之外，我們的AI如何在其他的應用方面……昨天我也有看到聯發科跟他們設計一個，未來筆電可能有一番革命。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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在這個部分我們政府能做什麼？ |
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林部長宜敬 |
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現在當然臺灣在AI硬體產業已經是世界上的超級強國了，軟體比較弱。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-06-03T10:53:11.712000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-06-03T10:53:13.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
我們有一個機會，就是主權AI。 |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-06-03T10:53:14.214000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-06-03T10:53:26.623000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
所謂主權AI，像前一陣子我們跟金管會，還有臺灣16家大型金融機構……其實主要是金融機構他們合組了一個聯盟，在開發一個主權AI。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.982 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-06-03T10:53:27.363000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-06-03T10:53:37.129000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
它的概念就是說，我們現在如果問ChatGPT或者Gemini一些金融的問題，結果它回答講得頭頭是道，可是它是依照美國的法律或者是新加坡的法律。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.94 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-06-03T10:53:37.749000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-06-03T10:53:45.933000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
我們就是希望建立一套臺灣金融主權AI，我問它金融的問題，它就依照臺灣的法規來回答我們。 |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-06-03T10:53:46.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-06-03T10:54:07.062000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
這個本身第一個可以解決臺灣的問題；第二個這個對民間產業是一個商機；再來，我們臺灣如果建立訓練主權AI的能力以後，我們還可以外銷，譬如說其他開發中國家、美中以外的國家，它需要建立主權AI的時候，我們也希望能把這個技術輸出，賺這個錢。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-06-03T10:54:08.902000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-06-03T10:54:11.384000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
現在臺灣的主權AI做到什麼程度？ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-06-03T10:54:12.145000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-06-03T10:54:32.999000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
現在事實上民間已經有成立公司了，據我們的了解，他們的狀況還不錯，我不敢講相當不錯，也不方便講是哪幾家公司，就是由臺灣大型的軟硬體公司合組了專門做主權AI的公司，然後到東南亞還有中東。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.94 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-06-03T10:54:32.999000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-06-03T10:54:38.563000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
所以上次你跟我提過說有11億個Token，現在呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-06-03T10:54:39.504000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-06-03T10:54:50.474000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
現在應該是13億個Token，這個是我們的資料，就是我們臺灣內部的資料，是臺灣主權AI訓練語料庫的。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.932 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-06-03T10:54:51.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-06-03T10:55:00.643000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
你估計大概是什麼時候，或者是我們要做到什麼程度，主權AI水準才算到位？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-06-03T10:55:01.868000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-06-03T10:55:06.349000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
如果說是一般性的AI模型，13億個Token的確是不夠啦。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-06-03T10:55:06.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-06-03T10:55:18.332000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
但是如果說我們要做金融主權AI，我們就去跟金管會合作，把金融方面的資料，尤其是政府擁有著作權的資料釋放出來，這個就不需要那麼多的…… |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-06-03T10:55:18.332000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-06-03T10:55:22.493000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
時間、格局，大概要到什麼程度？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-06-03T10:55:22.493000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-06-03T10:55:23.493000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
什麼時候？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-06-03T10:55:22.994000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-06-03T10:55:32.964000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
我們希望在3到6個月之內找到足夠的資料，讓臺灣的AI公司可以訓練它的主權AI模型。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.973 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-06-03T10:55:34.105000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-06-03T10:55:34.606000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
3到6個月。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-06-03T10:55:35.567000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-06-03T10:55:38.911000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
我會把時間記下來。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-06-03T10:55:39.592000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-06-03T10:55:44.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
部長到時候要呈現那個成果給國人看，這樣好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-06-03T10:55:44.798000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-06-03T10:55:46.118000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
好，沒問題、沒問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-06-03T10:55:46.298000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-06-03T10:55:47.719000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
雖然有點壓力，但是我們一定會努力。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-06-03T10:55:48.239000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-06-03T10:55:49.639000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
當然啦，有壓力才會進步嘛。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-06-03T10:55:50.219000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-06-03T10:55:51.520000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
好，謝謝，謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-06-03T10:55:52.860000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-06-03T10:56:06.783000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
這個部分我想包括AI軟體的應用，主權AI模式、AI應用軟體的新創，未來可以推到全世界其他的國家。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-06-03T10:56:07.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-06-03T10:56:10.444000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
目前我們應該是全世界20名內了吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-06-03T10:56:12.677000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-06-03T10:56:23.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
應該是，實際的實力應該是20名之內沒有問題，當然有各種不同的評比方式，但是整體我們臺灣的AI實力應該是相當強的。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-06-03T10:56:23.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-06-03T10:56:31.142000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
對啦，我記得去年是21嘛，今年應該是20名內，沒看到現在最新的報告。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-06-03T10:56:33.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-06-03T10:56:37.725000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
當然第20名對我們來講是不滿意的嘛，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-06-03T10:56:37.725000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-06-03T10:56:38.725000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
是，當然。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-06-03T10:56:37.725000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-06-03T10:56:38.926000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
我相信部長也不滿意嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-06-03T10:56:39.686000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-06-03T10:56:40.887000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
是，我不滿意，希望更好！ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-06-03T10:56:41.648000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-06-03T10:56:45.390000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
所以至少趕快先進入前10名嘛。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-06-03T10:56:45.870000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-06-03T10:56:46.871000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
好，我們會努力。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-06-03T10:56:48.112000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-06-03T10:56:49.253000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
一年有沒有機會？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-06-03T10:56:49.993000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-06-03T10:56:51.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
不要這樣啦，這樣壓力太大了。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-06-03T10:56:51.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-06-03T10:56:53.596000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
好，沒關係。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-06-03T10:56:53.596000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-06-03T10:56:55.197000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
我們會努力，謝謝委員提醒。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-06-03T10:56:55.197000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-06-03T10:56:57.839000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
儘量努力啦，我想這個部分全世界都在看嘛。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-06-03T10:56:58.399000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-06-03T10:57:10.543000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
你看全世界，「AI Together」都到臺灣來了，所以臺灣要怎麼創造、變成世界軟體的泰斗，也是我們努力的目標。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.918 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-06-03T10:57:11.043000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-06-03T10:57:12.244000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
這個部分麻煩部長努力一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-06-03T10:57:12.244000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-06-03T10:57:13.664000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
是，沒問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-06-03T10:57:13.664000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-06-03T10:57:29.230000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
另外，剛剛富癸委員也提到，我現在想到就是AI時代的品德教育，你說沒有風險是不可能啦。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-06-03T10:57:29.390000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-06-03T10:57:30.190000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
是，沒錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-06-03T10:57:30.190000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-06-03T10:57:32.332000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
包括詐騙，我們真的很討厭啦。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-06-03T10:57:33.854000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-06-03T10:57:34.474000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
部長也被詐騙過？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-06-03T10:57:34.474000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-06-03T10:57:35.474000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
好像沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-06-03T10:57:34.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-06-03T10:57:41.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
我說AI詐騙，你不是說你也被刷了很多錢嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-06-03T10:57:41.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-06-03T10:57:41.621000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
那個不算，算操作失誤。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.444 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-06-03T10:57:41.801000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-06-03T10:57:45.364000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
不算詐騙，那算是控制超出你的預期。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-06-03T10:57:48.346000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-06-03T10:57:49.526000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
這個部分要怎麼樣去控制？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-06-03T10:57:50.487000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-06-03T10:57:56.828000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
你看中國有AI擦邊產業鏈，這個部長應該都清楚啦。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-06-03T10:57:57.728000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-06-03T10:58:07.610000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
就是花了一點小錢，再來就深偽，再來就學生作業用AI做、交給老師。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.893 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-06-03T10:58:07.610000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-06-03T10:58:13.011000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
這個未來其實通通交給AI，變成他本身的學習力就一定會降低。沒錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-06-03T10:58:13.971000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-06-03T10:58:18.333000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
他都讓AI去做，基本上就是欺騙。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-06-03T10:58:20.414000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-06-03T10:58:35.621000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
在現在的情況下，剛剛富癸委員也有提到，坦白講，我一直希望AI基本法應該是在數發部，結果被藍白把它硬挪到其他委員會，我是覺得很可惜。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.864 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-06-03T10:58:36.581000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-06-03T10:58:41.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
但是在這個情況下，我們能做什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-06-03T10:58:41.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-06-03T10:58:42.364000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
或者是說將來有沒有機會？ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-06-03T10:58:45.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-06-03T10:58:55.777000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
當然國科會是很重要，但是AI基本法照理講應該在數發部最適合，將來有沒有機會調整回來？ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-06-03T10:58:55.777000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-06-03T10:58:57.979000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
這個到時候立法院還要再溝通。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-06-03T10:58:58.739000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-06-03T10:58:58.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
是，謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-06-03T10:58:58.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-06-03T10:59:09.546000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
在這個情況之下，我們能做的……現在在國科會那邊，但是我們該做的事一樣先設想到、先出來做。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-06-03T10:59:10.687000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-06-03T10:59:14.089000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
AI時代的品德教育這一部分，部長有沒有什麼規劃？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-06-03T10:59:14.089000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-06-03T10:59:24.193000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
我再舉一個教育部的例子，教育部現在推AI素養教育，有沒有跟數發部結合？ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-06-03T10:59:25.173000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-06-03T10:59:29.594000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
甚至AI要有品德，其實人更應該要有品德嘛。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-06-03T10:59:29.694000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-06-03T10:59:33.655000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
當然人的品德是教育部應該做的，數發部可能管不到那麼多。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.88 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-06-03T10:59:34.456000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-06-03T10:59:52.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
但是你從AI時代的品德教育跟教育部結合，我也會要求教育部人的品德教育，因為在現在這個時代，網路謾罵、霸凌、小錯誤無限上綱，其實人好像已經脫離了很多品德教育。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.972 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-06-03T10:59:53.930000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-06-03T11:00:02.298000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
這些都是我們需要大聲疾呼、需要重新再更加重視，所以我們先從AI時代的品德教育做起。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-06-03T11:00:03.099000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-06-03T11:00:04.060000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
部長有沒有什麼想法？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-06-03T11:00:04.580000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-06-03T11:00:15.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
我們現在譬如說跟衛福部就有合作，由衛福部去出一些兒少跟性平的題目，讓我們去考各種AI模型。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-06-03T11:00:15.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-06-03T11:00:42.681000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
我們現在有一個AI評測中心（AIEC），我們每週都會去評測全世界大概一百四十多種主要的大型語言模型，等到衛福部把兒少跟性平的題目交給我們，我們就去做評測，然後出成績單，讓全臺灣所有國人都知道，哪一些大型語言模型在兒少、性平跟道德方面做得比較好，哪些做得比較不好。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-06-03T11:00:43.641000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-06-03T11:00:47.743000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
委員剛剛也提到教育部那個部分，我們也會跟教育部去合作…… |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-06-03T11:00:47.883000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-06-03T11:00:55.329000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
比如說我再舉一件，未成年少女的影片如果是AI做的，這樣有沒有犯法？ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-06-03T11:00:56.049000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-06-03T11:01:22.577000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
對，我們要做評測，還有另外一個就是我們也會跟那些大型的公司，像Google、Meta還有LINE去商量，如果是由他們的工具產生的AI影片或者影像一定要標示，有的是顯性標示，有的是隱性標示，但是都要讓人家可以知道這是AI產生的，就是提醒民眾說這個…… |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.894 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-06-03T11:01:22.577000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-06-03T11:01:49.648000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
好，時間差不多了，我最後再拜託、給部長一個任務，現在因為AI基本法在國科會，但是這些相當的風險以及要怎麼樣給蘿蔔或者怎麼樣給鞭子，然後要掌握到什麼樣的程度，我是建議數發部可以做這樣子的思考…… |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-06-03T11:01:50.168000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-06-03T11:01:50.968000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
是，沒有問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-06-03T11:01:51.689000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-06-03T11:01:59.271000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
從數發部我們本來就應該給你們做的，雖然現在在別的單位，但是我覺得你們還是該做啦。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.973 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-06-03T11:01:59.572000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-06-03T11:02:01.132000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
是，沒錯，這個我們一定會做。 |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-06-03T11:02:03.433000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-06-03T11:02:40.833000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
針對AI的風險跟AI時代的品德教育，我給部長這個題目，怎麼樣將AI時代的品德教育跟教育部結合，怎麼樣從AI的管理回到人性的管理，不管是同理心、人性關懷、科技倫理跟誠信、數位的公民責任跟一般的公民責任，我想這個時代進步得太快了，這些傳統應該要重視的好像少了，所以我希望部長在這部分可以多一點思考…… |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-06-03T11:02:41.293000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-06-03T11:02:41.833000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
好，沒問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-06-03T11:02:42.413000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-06-03T11:02:56.739000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
下一次有機會我再來願聞其詳，就是部長思考之後，我們應該怎麼樣務實的推動，然後在蘿蔔跟棍子之間取得平衡，我們提供了什麼樣具體的方式，這樣說才比較具體。 |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.868 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-06-03T11:02:56.739000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-06-03T11:02:59.581000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
好，沒問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-06-03T11:02:59.581000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-06-03T11:03:19.930000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
這樣子我們才能夠在將來怎麼樣去調整AI洪流、AI的紅利、AI對全民好的影響之外，壞的影響我們如何去避免，也請部長就這部分多做比較大的思考，我們用一個整體的框架來推，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-06-03T11:03:19.930000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-06-03T11:03:20.930000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
是，謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-06-03T11:03:20.330000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-06-03T11:03:23.772000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
這個框架就拜託部長來想，我們會陪你們一起推啦…… |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-06-03T11:03:23.772000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-06-03T11:03:25.013000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
好，感謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-06-03T11:03:25.013000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-06-03T11:03:40.644000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
這個任務交給你們，因為你們比較內行，但是品德教育是我最重視的，所以我希望在這個時代，再加上我們對人的品德教育的部分做一個整體的思考，好不好？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
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2026-06-03T11:03:40.744000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T11:03:41.065000+08:00 |
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是，好，沒問題。 |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
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2026-06-03T11:03:41.065000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T11:03:41.545000+08:00 |
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那這部分就麻煩部長。謝謝。 |
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0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
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2026-06-03T11:03:41.545000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T11:03:41.605000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝委員。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-06-03T11:03:42.105000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-06-03T11:03:45.247857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
謝謝許智傑委員，謝謝部長。 |
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0.182 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-06-03T11:03:45.547857+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-06-03T11:03:49.262143+08:00 |
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接下來我們請陳雪生委員發言。 |
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0 |