| IVOD_ID |
169550 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169550 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-21T11:23:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-21T11:35:12+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:42 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/14c66ee36e76b85c5df13c34c9c9bb139d2d05c89e696614f929c1ba330123fbca7091789dec401d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:23:30 - 11:35:12 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院部分。【僅詢答；相關預算提案於115年5月29日(五)中午12時前截止收件。】） |
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謝謝主席 楊全帆議員 邀請秘書長 |
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行政院我們在立法院日前通過的保衛國家安全及強化不對稱戰略計畫採購特別條例當中行政院推動的無人機的相關預算跟產業佈局大家都非常非常的關注所以因此在經濟部的所屬之下也規劃了6年442億的無人機發展計畫 |
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包括他的研發他的資源以及相關的量能但是到目前為止是集中在這個嘉義那民進黨在我跟經濟部長跟行政院長一直在討論中部地區 |
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是所有的產業連結最密切的而且也是最完整的包括我們的工具機我們的AI我們的晶片等等的量能都是便便的我們不用再蓋廠 |
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我們的設備都是變變的所以我個人本身一再要求包括行政院長他也認可說中部地區來作為無人機的一個重要研發國家級的一個基地 |
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他認為這是許可是可行是適當的那我也問了經濟部長他也認為這樣子的一個產業鏈在大渡山科技走廊他是非常的完整的所以我首先要建議在行政院方面也就是將台中 |
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略為是我們無人機的一個重量研發國家級的無人機的一個基地請教秘書長謝謝委員 委員是很資深而且對產業非常了解的這個委員謝謝 一起加油這個我過去委員也常看到我會陪同總統到地方去看產業 |
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台中確實是台灣精密機械最重要的重鎮那行政院也有六大生活圈的地方把中台灣的地區不只是台中中張頭地區作為精密機械發展的核心那相關無人機產業的發展這個在行政院是由鄭麗君副院長統籌 |
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那我也跟副院長討論過確實嘉義創新研發台中他有他的這個技術跟他的產業鏈產業聚落本來就已經存在了台中確實是非常有潛力成為另外一個無人機產業發展的核心那這個議題這個意見除了楊委員您提過之外何欣淳委員也提過我們一起來共同支持 |
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好 所以你是贊同的 非常贊同 感謝那我們有一個定調 也就是嘉義研發中心 我們都非常支持台中這一個重要的關鍵地點是國家級的無人機的一個產業聚落完整的一個研發 |
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產出一連繫的一個基地在行政院我們是全力的支持不過也拜託委員支持這個中台灣產業鏈其實是大家一連串的這個坦白說彰化也在爭取我們都一起來支持當然 也是中台灣那台中因為有大渡山的科技走廊它是最完整的我想到目前為止我們在中部地區各縣市大家都是合力 |
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團結作戰的 這個是行政院你可以寬心但是必須要列為政府的一個國家級的基地我今天感謝聽到這樣子的一個論述是同意的 我們一起推動接下來我要跟您討論的是那現在在各部會經濟部 無人機有在買 |
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維護部相關單位也有在買農業部救災他也在買所以各部會都有在買近五年來無人機的需求已經在我們政府的系統裡頭他是必須的所以本期我個人非常的希望我們除了買之外我們更要產業要落地 |
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這是我想這是政府部門在推動的因為我們具備這樣子的一個條件所以我有一個具體的建議也就是各部份各自為政的在買但是行政院是否應當要統籌哪一個單位或者是哪一個系統來作為主責單位 |
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因為我們不只是買我們還要推動無人機的相關產業要來落地來發展發展到全世界去賺更多人全世界人的錢而且更多知道台灣的優勢台灣的這個產品是第一名的 |
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跟委員報告齁 這個各部會確實都有在買那我們也希望製造能夠落地剛剛跟委員報告過目前在行政院是由副院長在統籌這個事情那我想這個近期我也看到非常多這個立法委員不分朝野政黨都在支持無人展具的產業那未來如果行政院無論是提特別條例追加預算或者是擴大年度預算也好也希望朝野政黨不同的委員先進們能夠支持 |
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大家都在推動大家都在支持但是政府有這個責任本席具體建議的也就是不要各自為政化整為零這樣子我們的量能效能不會高所以希望要統合 |
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一個主歧視者的專責單位這樣子我們才能夠事半功倍贊同這樣子的論述嗎贊同 那行政也必須要這樣落地也就是我希望的就是我們的無人機的產業能夠真正的落地這是一個 另外本席跟你討論 |
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在115年度裡頭新聞傳播業務的你的編列是1411億那是當然媒體宣以及風險的溝通我特別要點出一個113年新興毒品致死案是達到77件 |
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那這個是顯性的數字隱性的數字我相信還有我們真不忍心看到這樣的一個數字那但是這又是三年最高在這樣的一個情況之下他有年輕化使用的族群有年輕化甚至進入校園進入這個社區那對於我們青少年已經嚴重的這個威脅所以也包括了成少共犯的比例110年是32.2% |
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但是到了113年36.9%39.6%換句話說它是增加的那在這樣子的一個房賭宣傳跟制度整合它是有落差的而且越見年輕化 |
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所以個人要建議你們是不是要建立一個在行政院層級跨部會的一個整合機制將宣導預防查緝一體化的推動要不然到目前為止有在推動數字告訴我們的是讓我們憂心的 |
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請做說明各位委員報告行政院會有定期的治安匯報跟毒品防治匯報那確實近期都包括交通大安匯報都在討論從酒駕到毒駕包括最近的毒駕我說今年交通部我要求交通部要把毒駕列為比照官 |
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這個無論是現在的依託名詞 我想我們都會有行政院來整合我們來加強出來 行政院來整合 你講這一句話就對了跟委員報告 我們在內政委員會那如果去問警政署 他們現在對於所謂獨駕的偵測他們現在有快篩的方式來出來 秘書長 請注意聽本席的提問 |
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本是告訴你你們現在所有的保守所有的方法是讓我們的數字是惡化的 |
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所以我具體建議你們去把這個數字惡化我們要怎麼樣有其他的因應方法除了整合橫向的機關以外我們的方法要怎麼做你現在回答本席的我們怎麼做我們怎麼做我們怎麼做我告訴你的是我看到的數字是惡化而且年輕化很難過啊 |
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所以方法要怎麼做請你去研討書面資料給本席沒問題獨家的部分獨家的部分我們當然獨家的部分我們的立場跟委員一樣我們當然是加重刑罰這個沒有問題但在檢測的部分警方單位已經有快篩的方法校園宣導跟校園防治我們也會請教育部加強要處理好 |
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請把整合方案告訴本席好 沒問題 我們可以用輸入的方式回覆不要在我現在怎麼做 現在就是沒通了我才會提出這個嚴肅的議題最後一個議題請教在你115年消保跟食安業務裡頭你列180萬但是有一個機制也就是說102年你盤點你在102年的時候行政院就盤點有57項是具食安風險的疑慮的這個化學物質 |
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那現在等於還是具體要求你必須要去整合現在在衛福部、在農業部、在環境部、在經濟部散落各部所以現在甚至有發現20項業者誤用在食品的化學物質沒有有效的納管所以甚至包括水陽酸、彭沙、甲醇都還在你們這個控管的空窗 |
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那等於是只有行政查詞或者是暫時性的措施所以我具體的建議你要從源頭來列管法治的一個整合一個政府從102年歸管的57項到現在還有20項還被拿出來當成是化學的這樣在食品的這個安全上面在處用 務用 |
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這不對的啊所以我具體要求行政院你應該是在我們整個這五十七項既然已經列定為食安風險疑慮化學物質你還沒有完成一個統一列管你們應該去趕快去跨部會的去整合怎麼樣的統一列管來補強這個缺口保障人民的安全 |
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跟委員的做法是一樣的 那進度我們會在書面提供給委員好 多久時間可以給我一個禮拜好不好好 一定要趕快跨部會去整合 你聽了你都難過 對不對不行如此的 讓人民連時都不安全我們的心情都是一樣的 食安是最重要的心情一樣 動作要盡快 一個禮拜之內一個禮拜再跟委員報告 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:23:33.913000+08:00 |
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謝謝主席，楊瓊瓔發言，請秘書長。 |
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0.692 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:23:35.119000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-05-21T11:23:44.866000+08:00 |
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秘書長好。 |
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0 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:24:21.460000+08:00 |
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我們立法院日前通過的保衛國家安全及強化不對稱戰力計畫採購特別條例當中，行政院推動的無人機相關預算跟產業布局，大家都非常非常的關注，因此在經濟部的主導之下規劃了6年442億的無人機發展計畫，包括研發、資源及相關量能，但是到目前為止是集中在嘉義。 |
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0.964 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:24:22.781000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:25:04.695000+08:00 |
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秘書長，我跟經濟部部長、行政院院長一直在討論，中部地區是所有的產業鏈結最密切且最完整的地區，包括工具機、AI、晶片等等量能、設備都是完備的，我們不用再蓋廠，所以本席一再要求，包括行政院長也認可中部地區作為無人機重要的國家級研發基地，他認為這是可行、適當的。 |
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0.861 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:25:05.576000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:25:31.470000+08:00 |
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我也問了經濟部長，他也認為這樣的產業鏈在大肚山科技走廊是非常完整的，所以我首先要建議行政院將臺中列為無人機重要的國家級研發基地，請教秘書長。 |
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0.909 |
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張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:25:31.470000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:25:32.190000+08:00 |
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謝謝委員。 |
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1 |
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張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:25:32.190000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:25:35.331000+08:00 |
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委員很資深而且對產業非常了解。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:25:37.392000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:25:37.872000+08:00 |
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謝謝，一起加油！ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:25:39.032000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:25:56.439000+08:00 |
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過去委員也常看到我會陪同總統到地方去看產業，臺中確實是臺灣精密機械最重要的重鎮，行政院的六大生活圈也涵蓋中臺灣，不只是臺中，而是把中彰投地區作為機密機械發展的核心。 |
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0.87 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:25:56.439000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-05-21T11:25:57.639000+08:00 |
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中部地區。 |
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0 |
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張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:25:57.639000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:26:17.991000+08:00 |
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相關無人機產業的發展在行政院是由鄭麗君副院長統籌，我也跟副院長討論過，嘉義是創新研發，而臺中有它的技術跟產業鏈，產業聚落本來就已經存在了，臺中確實是非常有潛力，可以成為另外一個無人機產業發展的核心。 |
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0.946 |
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張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:26:19.953000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:26:24.876000+08:00 |
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這個議題、這個意見除了您提過之外，何欣純委員也提過，我們一起共同支持。 |
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0.968 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:26:25.276000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:26:26.937000+08:00 |
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好，所以你是贊同的。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:26:28.839000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:26:30.260000+08:00 |
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非常贊同。感謝。 |
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1 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:26:30.460000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:26:56.295000+08:00 |
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我們有一個定調，也就是嘉義作為研發中心，我們都非常支持，而臺中是重要的關鍵地點、是國家級的無人機產業聚落、是完整的研發、產出供應鏈基地，行政院是全力的支持。 |
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0.886 |
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張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:26:56.936000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:27:02.498000+08:00 |
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不過也拜託委員支持，中臺灣產業鏈其實是一連串的。 |
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1 |
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張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:27:03.718000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:27:06.559000+08:00 |
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坦白說，彰化也在爭取，我們都一起來支持，好不好？ |
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0.85 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:27:07.040000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:27:08.860000+08:00 |
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當然，也就是中臺灣。 |
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0.875 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:27:09.080000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:27:13.002000+08:00 |
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臺中因為有大肚山科技走廊，它是最完整的。 |
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0.944 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:27:14.042000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:27:27.351000+08:00 |
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目前為止，中部地區各縣市都是合力團結作戰，行政院可以寬心，但是必須要列為國家級基地。 |
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1 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:27:28.272000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:27:33.436000+08:00 |
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感謝今天能聽到這樣同意的論述，我們一起推動。 |
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0.75 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-05-21T11:27:33.436000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:28:04.162000+08:00 |
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接下來我要跟你討論的是，現在經濟部有在買無人機，衛福部相關單位也有在買，農業部救災也在買，所以各部會都有在買，近五年來無人機的需求在政府的系統裡頭已經是必須的，所以本席個人非常希望我們除了買之外，更要讓產業落地。 |
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0.898 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:28:05.523000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:28:25.297000+08:00 |
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我想這是政府部門應該推動的，因為我們具備這樣的條件，所以我有一個具體建議，也就是各部會各自為政的在買，行政院是否應當統籌由哪一個單位或者哪一個系統作為主責單位？ |
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0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:28:28.579000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:28:34.982000+08:00 |
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因為我們不只是買，還要推動無人機相關產業，要來落地、來發展，發展到全世界賺更多人的錢，而且讓更多人知道臺灣的優勢、臺灣的產品是第一名的。 |
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0.967 |
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張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:28:48.253000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:28:51.914000+08:00 |
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各部會確實都有在買，我們也希望製造能夠落地。 |
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1 |
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張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:28:52.875000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:29:13.824000+08:00 |
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剛剛跟委員報告過，目前行政院是由副院長在統籌這個事情，近期我也看到非常多不分朝野政黨的立法委員都在支持無人載具產業，未來無論行政院提特別條例、追加預算或者是擴大年度預算，也希望朝野不同政黨的委員先進們能夠支持。 |
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0.899 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-05-21T11:29:15.128000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:29:20.330000+08:00 |
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大家都在推動、大家都在支持，但是政府有責任。 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:29:21.130000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:29:43.403000+08:00 |
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本席具體建議不要各自為政、化整為零，這樣量能、效能不會高，所以希望要有一個統合、主其事的專責單位，才能夠事半功倍，贊同這樣的論述嗎？ |
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0.914 |
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張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:29:43.403000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-05-21T11:29:44.925000+08:00 |
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贊同，所以才會由院來統籌。 |
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0.182 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:29:44.925000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:29:46.446000+08:00 |
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既然贊同，行政也必須要這樣落地。 |
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0.714 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:29:48.108000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:29:53.573000+08:00 |
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我希望無人機產業能夠真正落地，這是一個。 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-05-21T11:29:53.573000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:30:04.418000+08:00 |
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另外，本席要跟你討論，115年度新聞傳播業務編列1,410億，包括媒宣以及風險溝通。 |
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0.871 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:30:05.018000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:30:17.822000+08:00 |
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我要特別點出113年新興毒品致死案達到77件，這個是顯性的數字，我相信還有隱性的數字，我們真的不忍心看到這樣的數字。 |
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0.857 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-05-21T11:30:18.622000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:30:32.825000+08:00 |
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但這又是三年最高，在這樣的情況之下，使用的族群年輕化，甚至進入校園、進入社區，對於青少年已經產生嚴重威脅。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-05-21T11:30:34.086000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-05-21T11:30:45.217000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
其中，成少共犯比例110年是32.2%，但到了113年是39.6%，換句話說是增加的。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-05-21T11:30:47.901000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-05-21T11:31:07.415000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
因此，防毒宣傳跟制度整合是有落差的，而且越見年輕化，所以個人建議你們是不是要建立一個在行政院層級的跨部會整合機制，將宣導、預防、查緝一體化推動？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-05-21T11:31:07.415000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-05-21T11:31:11.196000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
要不然到目前為止，有在推動，數字告訴我們的卻讓我們憂心。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.96 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-05-21T11:31:14.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-05-21T11:31:14.525000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
請說明。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-05-21T11:31:15.987000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-05-21T11:31:26.716000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
行政院會有定期的治安會報跟毒品防制會報，確實近期包括交通道安會報都在討論從酒駕到毒駕，無論是喪屍煙彈或依托咪酯…… |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.679 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-05-21T11:31:26.716000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-05-21T11:31:28.858000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
包括最近的毒駕。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-05-21T11:31:29.198000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-05-21T11:31:32.621000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
今年我要求交通部要把毒駕列為比照國安議題處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-05-21T11:31:34.003000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-05-21T11:31:40.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
無論是喪屍煙彈或者是依托咪酯，都會由行政院來整合並加強宣導…… |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-05-21T11:31:40.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-05-21T11:31:41.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
這怎麼辦呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-05-21T11:31:41.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-05-21T11:31:42.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
而且目前也在加強查緝。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-05-21T11:31:40.469000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-05-21T11:31:41.049000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
「行政院來整合」，你講這一句話就對了！ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-05-21T11:31:41.510000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-05-21T11:31:43.311000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
我們在內政委員會，如果問警政署對於毒駕的偵測，他們現在有快篩的方式來處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.912 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-05-21T11:31:43.331000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-05-21T11:31:43.672000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
秘書長，請注意聽本席的提問。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-05-21T11:31:57.082000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-05-21T11:32:18.429000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
本席告訴你，你們現在所有的方法是讓數字惡化，所以我具體建議你們針對數字惡化，看要怎麼樣有其他的因應方法，除了整合橫向機關以外，你們的方法要怎麼做？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.925 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-05-21T11:32:19.210000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-05-21T11:32:27.475000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
你現在回答本席你們怎麼做、你們怎麼做、你們怎麼做，我告訴你的是，我看到的數字是惡化而且年輕化，很難過！ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-05-21T11:32:30.745000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-05-21T11:32:31.406000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
方法要怎麼做？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-05-21T11:32:32.066000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-05-21T11:32:33.147000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
請你去研討，給本席書面資料。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-05-21T11:32:34.327000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-05-21T11:32:36.989000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
沒問題，毒駕的部分…… |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-05-21T11:32:36.989000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-05-21T11:32:39.070000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
不要再回復現在怎麼做，現在就是行不通！ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-05-21T11:32:39.070000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-05-21T11:32:43.152000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
毒駕的部分，我們的立場跟委員一樣，當然是加重刑罰，這個沒有問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-05-21T11:32:43.152000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-05-21T11:32:49.676000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
但在檢測的部分，警方已經有快篩的方法；至於校園宣導跟校園防制的部分，我們也會請教育部加強來處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.841 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-05-21T11:32:52.117000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-05-21T11:32:53.818000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
請把整合方案告訴本席。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-05-21T11:32:54.198000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-05-21T11:32:55.898000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
好，沒問題，我們可以用書面的方式回復委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.722 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-05-21T11:32:56.018000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-05-21T11:33:00.220000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
不要再說現在怎麼做，現在就是行不通，我才會提出這個嚴肅的議題。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-05-21T11:33:00.220000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-05-21T11:34:01.097000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
請教最後一個議題，115年消保跟食安業務編列180萬，但是有一個機制，也就是102年行政院盤點有57項化學物質具食安風險疑慮，本席還是具體要求你們必須要去整合，現在散落各部，包括衛福部、農業部、環境部、經濟部，甚至發現仍有20項化學物質遭業者誤用在食品，沒有辦法有效納管，包括水楊酸、硼砂、甲醇都還在控管的空窗，等於是只有行政調查或者暫時性的措施來處理，因此，我具體建議要從源頭列管、整合法制。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-05-21T11:34:02.317000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-05-21T11:34:17.941000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
政府從102年規管57項，到現在還有20項化學物質被拿來誤用在食品，這是不對的！ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-05-21T11:34:19.101000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-05-21T11:34:42.766000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
我具體要求行政院，這57項已經列定為食安風險疑慮化學物質，卻還沒有完成統一列管，你們應該趕快跨部會的去整合，看怎麼樣統一列管來補強這個缺口，保障人民的安全。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-05-21T11:34:43.246000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-05-21T11:34:47.229000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
跟委員建議的做法是一樣的，進度我們會再以書面提供給委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-05-21T11:34:47.229000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-05-21T11:34:48.850000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
好，多久時間可以給我？ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-05-21T11:34:51.472000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-05-21T11:34:52.333000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
一個禮拜，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-05-21T11:34:52.433000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-05-21T11:34:56.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
好，一定要趕快跨部會去整合，你聽了你都難過，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-05-21T11:34:56.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-05-21T11:34:59.939000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
不行如此的，讓人民連食都不安全。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-05-21T11:35:00.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-05-21T11:35:02.721000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
我們的心情都是一樣的，食安是最重要。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-05-21T11:35:02.761000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-05-21T11:35:06.564000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
心情一樣，動作要儘快，一個禮拜之內書面資料給本席，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-05-21T11:35:06.564000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-05-21T11:35:07.405000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
一個禮拜跟委員報告，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-05-21T11:35:07.905000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-05-21T11:35:12.190714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
我們下一位請洪孟楷委員發言質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0 |