| IVOD_ID |
168801 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168801 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-23T10:52:35+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-23T11:01:41+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:06 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a0a6b12795be5442e7e5d6a00255991d47e947452b276263a9438ec9e4ea00b378ef0510ede47c525ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:52:35 - 11:01:41 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於公平交易委員會單位預算及附屬單位預算非營業部分關於公平交易委員會主管：反托拉斯基金。(詢答)
二、審查：
(一) 本院委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等17人擬具「土石採取法第三條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 本院委員黃仁等36人擬具「土石採取法第三條及第十四條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 本院委員邱議瑩等21人擬具「土石採取法部分條文修正草案」案。
(四) 本院委員賴瑞隆等19人擬具「土石採取法部分條文修正草案」案。
(五) 本院委員許智傑等31人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
(六) 本院委員柯志恩等19人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
(七) 本院委員邱鎮軍等24人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條、第三十八條及第三十九條條文修正草案」案。
(八) 本院委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
(九) 本院委員丁學忠等16人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
(十) 本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「土石採取法第三十六條、第三十八條及第四十一條條文修正草案」案。
(第十案如未接獲院會交付審查之議事處來文，則不予審查) (詢答及處理)
【4月22日及23日二天一次會】） |
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委員質詢首先請經濟部來政策請經濟部來策展園區管理局曾副局長園區管理局地調地質調查徐主任地方中心徐主任這個委員好這個市長 |
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先請教這個海淡廠之前我也曾去海淡廠那時候你在水利署署長那以前是台中臨時機組我們遷到這個興達電廠裡面那一年大概有一天大概十萬噸那我們希望蓋一個永久性的海淡廠為什麼我會這樣去設想你十年五年之後整個從沙文到這個南子產業園區都是半導體製造中心 |
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水 電 絕對不能缺所以現有的這個水的容量 水的供應量即便我們 我蓋了兩個再生水廠那時候我們一起努力 鋼橋 對不對還有楠梓再生水廠是我爭取才有這個兩座再生水廠好 還是不夠你如果再往北未來還有一個陸竹財源區要規劃所以未來的海淡廠有沒有 現在有沒有新的進度 |
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阿蘇委員所說的我們針對區域發展特別是南邦大溪谷的這個部分我們針對於水的這個組織有沒有新的計畫就有沒有新的地點因為可見當時這個你們規劃的地點好像地方上有意見我希望你們跟地方溝通在原址如果可以的話在原址再蓋 |
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地方上如果可以支持 我覺得最好就在原子來蓋 你知道原子那個地方在哪裡嗎新南海電廠裡面嘛 旁邊 靠近永安嘛那如果我們地方民眾還是覺得不妥你們另外再找地點 好不好這個部分我覺得還是要繼續推動啦一天十萬噸對未來產業的需求非常重要因為白富產業園區現在在遭傷 |
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那個多產業園區也是我爭取的對不對你也很清楚嘛 |
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這個也是我選的後來市政府認為說這個未來整個S行帶在半導體的不管是先進製程或者封設也好都可以集中在男子跟白虎對不對所以由市政府去做統籌規劃那我們也樂觀其成百事經濟部 產化局要獨找了後來給市政府目前最新進度你有沒有掌握 |
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現在好像是地方政府已經審過基礎設施包括公設是誰來蓋基礎設施啊公設比方說這個有一些公共建築啊一些基礎設施是誰來蓋是政府來蓋還是這個政府來蓋政府來蓋我們先那個政府政府你直接講好了政府白埔現在目前還是要由地方政府來做主導 |
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包括公共設施包括這些聯外道路都是由地方政府因為目前看起來開發單位不能看起來目前就是地方政府在做整個開發主體我是擔心財源不夠你這公共設施你要把它完善化聯外交通要把它這個很通暢這個沒有中央協助不行我覺得是不是這個市長你跟原區這個楊局長 |
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再找市政府談一下 看需要中央哪些協助我們再請園區管理局跟市政府對接一下包括推進的進度 當然希望中央地方合作的地方那你們對接的情況再讓我知道一下因為陸族財源園區那也是我爭取的嘛 對不對有沒有最新的進度 那政府 |
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目前來講 比較陸主園區目前確實比較沒有你要持續推動了那個地點我們已經決定了那地點我們開了好幾次會決定了未來在北高雄還是要有個財源園區北高雄財源園區現在已經成型了招商也都滿了那也是我費盡九牛二虎之力那陸主財源園區我們繼續推動好那個地熱啊地熱部分喔這個 |
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我是覺得目前這個對地熱我覺得台灣的條件非常好但是從這個未來從1.2GW到200MW是差了6倍因為是國化會公布的 一個是行政院公布的那下調到這個200MW我是覺得一定有出現環境上的問題 |
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包括行政流程中央地方完全不一開發區也受到很嚴重的限制產業供應鏈能量不足我很具體的要求經濟部是不是能夠建立地熱一戰式的審查機制把中央跟地方流程統一另外你要檢討國家公務員開發限制的問題以參考其他國家經驗 冰島 日本 紐西蘭 |
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然後政府的整合需求要引進國際專警的能量就跟離岸封地一樣然後建立在地溝通的指引你要有個指引才能做在地溝通我是覺得針對我這四個建議方案我希望說三個月之內請經濟部提出一個規劃報告沒有問題上個月好那最後一個問題各位先請回請教我們公民會陳副主委 |
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這個主席我很難得時間有超過這個問題比較重要 稍微超過一下也不會超過太離譜我只是不能無邊際的質詢 |
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這個單一通路 單一售票通路那個 主委 有沒有買過演唱會的票有買得到嗎我不是透過這個網路買的那你透過什麼特別管道因為像 其實那個票的通路有不同嘛像古典音樂 大部分透過寬宏等等其他的網站所以我沒有用過這個網站 |
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我是說這個流行音樂 流行HIPHOP類似這種我也沒去聽過 我跟你一樣我都聽古典樂所以票比較好買那你其他這個秒殺 所謂秒殺就是說瞬間4萬票 4萬張票就賣完了那是有特定的售票平台 對不對那它會有一定的遊戲規則 比如說最近接到很多民眾陳情 |
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你這個特定平台因為它一直刷刷之後它認為它是一個機器在運作所以它就永久封鎖這個民眾帳號它只是買票買得比較急動作比較快就被封鎖了封鎖其他兩家也不能用等於說它沒有永遠被排除在這個買票的通路當中它只能被迫去買航空票 |
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這種情況越來越多是 我跟各位報告一下就是說從競爭的觀點來看可能我們對這個議題關切的點是在於爭取售票代理權那個競爭是而不是說拿到代理權以後事後對消費者那塊競爭因為所有的表演都有它的獨特性對所以一旦你搶到代理權以後當然對消費者來講沒有什麼替代的選擇所以代理權要怎麼去做一個優化呢 |
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我們還是把重點擺在那個競爭爭取那個售票代理權的部分那如果從這個角度來看目前競爭售票代理權是有問題的 |
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我目前觀察到的是說就如我們剛剛跟委員報告還有一些其他的售票管道當然到底他們實質的情況事實上我們持續都有在做產業的瞭解那目前看起來當然委員關心一個產業再去瞭解一下瞭解三家其中只有一家有在賣比方說這個A演唱會只能A這個售票平台賣其他兩個B跟C不能賣 |
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對 但是我們關切的點是說當他決定要由某一個平台來賣的過程當中是不是其他兩家有在搶你能不能一個月把你們的撤進方案 改進方案怎麼樣讓這個遊戲規則能夠更公平我可以給你一個目前我們對這個產業的初步瞭解給一個書面給我這個已經接到很多的陳情了在A平台他是刷了幾次就被封鎖 |
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他們說B跟C他也不能去不能去購買所以三個平台全部被封鎖像這種這種我們這個消費者很多很多所以我可以跟針對這個目前市場的現況還有這個相關的議題給委員一個書面報告好 謝謝謝謝主席容許我發言這個超時一點點謝謝應該的謝謝邱教偉 |
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2026-04-23T10:52:59.087000+08:00 |
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請經濟部賴次長、園區管理局副局長、地質中心徐主任。 |
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0.273 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-04-23T10:52:59.087000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2026-04-23T10:52:59.207000+08:00 |
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委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-04-23T10:52:59.407000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2026-04-23T10:53:07.229000+08:00 |
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次長，先請教海淡廠，之前我也爭取過海淡廠，那時候你在當水利署署長。 |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
0.828 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-04-23T10:53:07.669000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2026-04-23T10:53:21.060000+08:00 |
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以前是臺中臨時機組，我們遷到興達電廠裡面，一天大概10萬噸，我們希望蓋一個永久性的海淡廠，為什麼我會這樣去設想？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-04-23T10:53:22.541000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-04-23T10:53:45.040000+08:00 |
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在10年、5年之後，整個從沙崙到楠梓產業園區都是半導體製造中心，水電絕對不能缺，所以以現有水的容量、水的供應量，即便我們蓋了2個再生水廠，那時候我們一起努力，橋頭還有楠梓再生水廠，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0.887 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-04-23T10:53:45.040000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-04-23T10:53:58.024000+08:00 |
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是我爭取的，才有這2座再生水廠，但還是不夠，如果你再往北，未來還有一個路竹產業園區要規劃，未來的海淡廠現在有沒有新的進度？ |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-04-23T10:54:00.492000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-04-23T10:54:08.974000+08:00 |
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如委員所說的，我們針對於區域發展，特別是南方大矽谷的部分，我們針對於水的這個組織……對啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-04-23T10:54:08.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-04-23T10:54:11.635000+08:00 |
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有沒有新的計畫、有沒有新的地點？ |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-04-23T10:54:13.095000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-04-23T10:54:27.640000+08:00 |
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當時你們規劃的地點好像地方上有意見，我希望你們再跟地方溝通，如果可以的話，在原址再蓋，地方上如果可以支持，我覺得最好就蓋在原址，你知道原址那個地方在哪裡嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-04-23T10:54:28.220000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-04-23T10:54:28.380000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
興達電廠裡面嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-04-23T10:54:29.201000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-04-23T10:54:29.741000+08:00 |
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靠近永安嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-04-23T10:54:29.741000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
1 |
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2026-04-23T10:54:31.783000+08:00 |
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對，在輝達那裡…… |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.167 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-04-23T10:54:31.783000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-04-23T10:54:37.166000+08:00 |
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如果地方民眾還是覺得不妥，你們另外再找地點，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-04-23T10:54:38.227000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-04-23T10:54:43.290000+08:00 |
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這個部分我覺得還是要繼續推動，一天10萬噸，對未來產業的需求非常重要。是、是！ |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-04-23T10:54:43.290000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-04-23T10:54:44.471000+08:00 |
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我們會加速推動。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-04-23T10:54:44.471000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-04-23T10:54:51.573000+08:00 |
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另外，白埔產業園區現在在招商，白埔產業園區也是我爭取，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.741 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-23T10:54:51.573000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-04-23T10:54:52.095000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
你很清楚嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-23T10:54:54.514000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-23T10:55:11.463000+08:00 |
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這個也是我選的，後來市政府認為未來整個半導體S廊帶，不管是先進製程或者封測也好，都可以集中在楠梓跟白埔，由市政府去做統籌規劃，我們也樂觀其成。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.892 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-23T10:55:12.884000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-23T10:55:20.228000+08:00 |
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本來是經濟部產發局要主導，後來交給市政府，目前的最新進度你有沒有掌握？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-23T10:55:21.008000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-23T10:55:24.629000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
現在好像是地方政府已經審過了。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-23T10:55:24.629000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-23T10:55:29.711000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
基礎設施包括公設是誰來蓋？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-23T10:55:32.652000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-23T10:55:37.894000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
比方說有一些公共建築、一些基礎設施是誰來蓋？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-23T10:55:38.034000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-23T10:55:40.194000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
市政府來蓋，還是中央經濟部來蓋？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-23T10:55:44.696000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-23T10:55:45.296000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
曾副局長，你直接講好了？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
曾副局長琡芬 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-23T10:55:46.496000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-23T10:55:48.437000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
白埔目前還是由地方政府來做主導。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-23T10:55:49.119000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-23T10:55:53.520000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
包括公共設施、包括這些聯外道路都是由地方政府嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
曾副局長琡芬 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-23T10:55:54.161000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-23T10:55:55.761000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
對，因為目前看起來開發單位還是…… |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-23T10:55:56.662000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-23T10:55:57.282000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
什麼看起來？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-23T10:55:57.282000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-23T10:55:58.282000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
不能說看起來，你們…… |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
曾副局長琡芬 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-23T10:55:57.282000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-23T10:56:01.123000+08:00 |
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目前由地方政府在做整個開發主體。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-23T10:56:01.123000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-23T10:56:09.966000+08:00 |
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我是擔心財源不夠，你要完善化這些公共設施，聯外交通要很通暢，這個沒有中央協助不行。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.865 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-23T10:56:10.506000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-23T10:56:19.411000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
我覺得次長跟園區楊局長是不是再找市政府談一下，看需要中央哪些協助？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.742 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-23T10:56:21.511000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-23T10:56:27.513000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
我們再請園區管理局跟市政府對接一下，包括推動的進度，希望中央、地方合作的地方……好、好！ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.919 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-23T10:56:27.653000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-23T10:56:28.853000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
你們對接的情況再讓我知道一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-23T10:56:30.114000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-23T10:56:32.414000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
另外路竹產業園區也是我爭取的，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.647 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-23T10:56:32.414000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-23T10:56:33.115000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
曾副局長，有沒有最新的進度？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
曾副局長琡芬 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-23T10:56:37.545000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-23T10:56:38.566000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
路竹園區目前確實比較沒有確定的進度…… |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.588 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-23T10:56:38.726000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-23T10:56:39.666000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
你要持續推動啦！是，好。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-23T10:56:40.687000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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2026-04-23T10:56:57.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
那個地點我們已經決定了，那個地點是開了好幾次會決定的，未來在北高雄還是要有一個產業園區，北高雄產業園區現在已經成型，招商也都滿了，那也是我費盡九牛二虎之力，我們繼續推動路竹產業園區。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-23T10:57:01.021000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-23T10:57:47.517000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
在地熱的部分，我是覺得目前對於地熱臺灣的條件非常好，但是未來從1.2GW到200MW差了6倍，一個是國發會公布的，一個是行政院公布的，下調到200MW，我是覺得一定有出現環節上的問題，包括行政流程，中央、地方完全不一，開發區域也受到很嚴重的限制，產業供應鏈的能量不足，我很具體的要求經濟部是不是能夠建立地熱一站式的審查機制，把中央跟地方流程統一。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-23T10:57:48.097000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-23T10:58:04.690000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
另外，你要檢討國家公園開發限制的問題，參考其他國家的經驗，如冰島、日本、紐西蘭，政府的整合需求要引進國際鑽井的能量，就跟離岸風電一樣，建立在地溝通的指引，你要有個指引才能做在地溝通。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.914 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-23T10:58:06.231000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-23T10:58:13.557000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
針對這4個建議方案，希望在3個月之內請經濟部提出一個規劃報告。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-23T10:58:14.338000+08:00 |
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2026-04-23T10:58:15.098000+08:00 |
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好，沒有問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
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2026-04-23T10:58:15.339000+08:00 |
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2026-04-23T10:58:16.039000+08:00 |
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3三個月，好。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-23T10:58:17.240000+08:00 |
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2026-04-23T10:58:22.325000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
各位先請回，最後一個問題，請教公平會陳代理主委。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.619 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
陳代理主任委員志民 |
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2026-04-23T10:58:22.325000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
1 |
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2026-04-23T10:58:26.556000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
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2026-04-23T10:58:26.556000+08:00 |
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2026-04-23T10:58:35.326000+08:00 |
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主席，我很難得時間有超過，但是因為這個問題比較重要，稍微超過一下，但是也不會超過太離譜，質詢不能無邊際的質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.837 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
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2026-04-23T10:58:39.954000+08:00 |
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2026-04-23T10:58:45.516000+08:00 |
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關於單一售票通路，主委，有沒有買過演唱會的票？有！ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-23T10:58:46.497000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-23T10:58:48.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
買得到嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
陳代理主任委員志民 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-23T10:58:48.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-23T10:58:49.618000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
我不是透過這個網路買的。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-23T10:58:49.858000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-23T10:58:50.979000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
那你透過什麼特別管道？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
陳代理主任委員志民 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-23T10:58:52.079000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-23T10:58:59.083000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
其實票有不同的通路，像古典音樂大部分是透過寬宏等等其他的網站，所以我沒有用過這個網站。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-23T10:59:00.533000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-23T10:59:09.856000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
對，我是說流行音樂，類似K-pop這種，我也沒聽過，我跟你一樣，我都聽古典樂，所以票比較好買。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-23T10:59:11.536000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-23T10:59:21.039000+08:00 |
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所謂秒殺就是瞬間4萬張票就賣完了，那是由特定的售票平臺，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-23T10:59:21.579000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-23T10:59:55.529000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
它會有一定的遊戲規則，比方說最近接到很多民眾陳情，因為他一直刷這個特定平臺，刷了之後，平臺認為這是一個機器在運作，所以就永久封鎖民眾帳號，他只是買票買得比較急、動作比較快，就被封鎖了，封鎖後其他兩家也不能用，等於他永遠被排除在買票的通路當中，只能被迫去買黃牛票，這種情況越來越多。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.874 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
陳代理主任委員志民 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-23T10:59:56.290000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-23T11:00:04.236000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
我跟委員報告一下，從競爭的觀點來看，我們對這個議題的關切點可能是在爭取售票代理權的那個競爭。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.864 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
陳代理主任委員志民 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-23T11:00:04.737000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-23T11:00:14.524000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
而不是拿到代理權以後，事後對消費者的那個競爭，因為所有的表演都有它的獨特性，所以一旦你搶到代理權以後，對消費者來講當然就沒有什麼替代的選擇。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-23T11:00:14.524000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-23T11:00:17.207000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
所以代理權要怎麼去做一個優化呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
陳代理主任委員志民 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-23T11:00:18.088000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-23T11:00:23.698000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
我們還是把重點擺在競爭、爭取那個售票代理權的部分，如果從這個角度來看，這家公司本身…… |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.842 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-23T11:00:24.419000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-23T11:00:25.321000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
你覺得目前競爭售票代理權是有問題的？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
陳代理主任委員志民 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-23T11:00:29.061000+08:00 |
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2026-04-23T11:00:39.586000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
我目前觀察到的就如同剛才跟委員報告的，還有一些其他的售票管道，當然他們實質的情況到底如何，事實上我們持續都有在做產業的了解，目前看起來委員關心的…… |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.868 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-23T11:00:40.047000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-23T11:00:40.727000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
對於產業你再去了解一下。有。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-04-23T11:00:41.808000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-04-23T11:00:43.869000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
請去了解3家其中只有一家有在賣。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-23T11:00:43.869000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-04-23T11:00:53.072000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
比方說，這個A演唱會，只能在A售票平台賣，其他兩個B跟C不能賣。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
陳代理主任委員志民 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-04-23T11:00:53.072000+08:00 |
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2026-04-23T11:00:59.016000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
但是我們關切的點是，當他決定要由某一個平台來賣的過程當中，是不是其他兩家有在搶？ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.973 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-04-23T11:00:59.016000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-04-23T11:01:05.481000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
你能不能一個月提出你們的策進方案、改進方案，思考怎麼樣讓這個遊戲規則能夠更公平？ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.865 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
陳代理主任委員志民 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-04-23T11:01:06.121000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-04-23T11:01:10.104000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
我可以給提供一份目前我們對這個產業初步了解的書面給委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.741 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-04-23T11:01:10.104000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-04-23T11:01:25.918000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
我已經接到很多的陳情了，在A平台他刷了幾次就被封鎖，封鎖之後B跟C他也不能去購買，所以是3個平台全部被封鎖，像遇到這種情形的消費者就很多很多。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
陳代理主任委員志民 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-04-23T11:01:27.498000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-04-23T11:01:30.579000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
我可以針對目前這個市場的現況，還有相關的議題，給委員一個書面報告。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
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2026-04-23T11:01:30.599000+08:00 |
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2026-04-23T11:01:30.639000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
好，謝謝。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-04-23T11:01:30.639000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-04-23T11:01:31.440000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
謝謝主席容許我發言超時一點點，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-04-23T11:01:31.440000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-04-23T11:01:31.440000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
應該的。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-04-23T11:01:31.580000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-04-23T11:01:31.580000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
謝謝邱召委。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-04-23T11:01:32.080000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-04-23T11:01:35.794286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
接下來我們請柯志恩委員質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0 |