| IVOD_ID |
168683 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168683 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-22T09:28:42+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-22T09:38:11+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:29 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5b5880b40c5769f109b2360a72ed582b10d96ca025fdcb7cdfea45507174d079c9a64353dbdea2ca5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
萬美玲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:28:42 - 09:38:11 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查(一)委員葛如鈞等20人及(二)委員黃健豪等18人分別擬具「電信管理法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。二、審查(一)委員陳雪生等23人及(二)委員傅崐萁等25人分別擬具「有線廣播電視法第十條條文修正草案」案、(三)委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「有線廣播電視法第十條及第五十八條條文修正草案」案、(四)委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「有線廣播電視法第五十八條條文修正草案」案及(五)委員黃健豪等18人擬具「有線廣播電視法第十條及第五十八條條文修正草案」案。三、審查(一)委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「廣播電視法第五條之一及第四十四條之二條文修正草案」案及(二)委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「廣播電視法第四十四條之二條文修正草案」案。四、處理114年度中央政府總預算附屬單位預算關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管預算凍結案計13案。【開會事由一至三僅進行詢答；開會事由二第(五)案，如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書，則不予審查】） |
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好 謝謝趙偉那因為時間有限我想是不是可以請陳崇素主委跟林盈靜部長一起上來來 請陳主委 請林部長 |
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委員長好 謝謝我想先請教一下我們的陳主委那上一次在備詢的時候本席有聽到你說針對現在行政院是不是有提出NCC的這個委員新名單你現在是不知道但是呢你隨即也表示說七月底之前如果沒有辦法去補足這個人事的話恐怕未來是完全無法運作 |
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那但是我們依據通訊傳播委員會的組織法規定我們知道在屆期前三個月必須要提出新的委員的人選名單嘛但是呢這個時間點呢就是四月底那也就是剩下八天的時間了那目前針對現在新的提名作業進展到哪裡了主委知道嗎 |
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各位報告這部分我這邊是毫無所惜到現在還是毫無所惜但是雖然我們知道NCC的提名權是在行政院的手中可是您現在是代理主委我想也不應該置身事外尤其是當7月底一到NCC其實就如同空城一般也是您自己所預期的可能業務就會停擺了所以主委都沒有去主動跟行政院討論過相關人士嗎 |
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有跟行政院相關的長官有在談有反映這件事情相關的長官是誰比方說院長辦公室或者政委等 |
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院長我想我看過您的資歷在NCC裡面其實您待的時間蠻久的有做過科長 檢任記證 三個處的處長 竹密等等所以其實你對NCC的作業是非常了解的其實本席認為你應該就你的經驗跟專業其實要跟行政院這邊加強溝通甚至於你可以推薦一些人選所以我不曉得到現在為止剩下八天新的人選都沒有出來是因為 |
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現在我們在這個專業領域的人才找不到還是說其實專業與否不重要是不是自己人才重要所以是哪一種 |
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因為過往有提名過兩次有一些處理的經驗昨天在院會院長有做一些說明我相信院長應該會有一些考量再處理你的相信不重要但是你用專業去建議是比較重要那所以呢人選制沒有出來剩下八天我想請教一下是不是您有被徵選要連任 |
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目前沒有那如果徵詢您的話,您會連任嗎?你表達意願,我們才知道將來要怎麼去處理啊我相信適合擔任...擔任委員的人,台灣人才基金應該所在多有我相信如果可以的話,我相信把這個用餘空間留給院長會比較好所以不想做了,不想繼續連任?不是,這是尊重院長的選擇 |
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好我想我們還是要加快腳步了好不好好謝謝那我們陳主委可以先請回謝謝您然後接下來我想請教一下我們的林部長部長我看到書發部在4月15號的時候有發布了一個徵求民間自行規劃申請參與AI算力中心的一個BOO案對不對 |
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一個公告那希望用促餐的方式把企業來投入建制AI算力中心那當然就是說這個參與的機構應該要有一定比例的算力然後提供政府學術單位無償或者是優惠的來使用這可以協助我們企業在這個合理的成本或優惠的成本之下取得算力的支援我覺得本席覺得這個構想其實真的非常的好也支持 |
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這個4月15號我們這個案子出來以後申請的時間是到5月14號一個月的時間那請問一下部長我們原本預計你預期有多少家企業來申請因為本席之前有聽有看到媒體也講說好像我們鴻海也會來所以當時我們就覺得真的很棒啊那所以你預期有多少家那現在有多少家來申請了目前實際第一案的應該就是鴻海一家鴻海有來申請了嗎 |
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要講清楚耶 鴻海有來申請了嗎現在還沒有還沒有 那部長你怎麼可以說還沒有 你在這裡回答我本行說鴻海有來申請跟我們報告 他已經有在我們公告之前 他有提出規劃構想書不是嘛 提出規劃構想是一件事嘛我本行問得很清楚 鴻海來申請了嗎因為沒有 部長 鴻海到底來申請了沒有啦 |
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沒有現在還在政策公告的期間啊還沒有截止啊是嗎那所以洪海來申請了嗎此時此刻本席在這裡詢問嗎政策公告還沒就沒有嘛對不對公示的是沒有但是他之前已經跟我們密切聯繫而且他還提出了那個 |
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立憲聯繫所以你認為他百分之百一定會來提出申請這個我不能保證所以不能保證就應該就現狀此時此刻本席在委員會問你你當然就應該要現在我沒有要你保證啊我剛才的問題你要聽清楚嘛本席是在此時此刻問你有多少家來申請你跟我說鴻海結果鴻海現在此時此刻是沒有提出來的啊誰要你保證啊你有什麼本事來做保證啊 |
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是完全同意這就是我要講的我沒有這個保證所以你要據實回答呀在委員會可以隨便答詢喔是抱歉不可以這種答詢的態度啊是不是沒有要你保證沒有人能夠保證鴻海會不會來但是你要據實答詢嘛你要據實答詢這件事很重要你能明白嗎所以你以後會據實答詢嗎我現在有多少家來申請了部長 |
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現在有多少家來申請部長您是部長是吧部長現在有多少家來申請現在還在公告期間我們剛才市長已經說明了到目前為止我問的問題很清楚到目前為止有多少家來申請那如果說照這種定義委員您這樣的定義的話是沒有現在一家都零嘛這有什麼好定義不定義很清楚就我問你答因為現在還在公告期間到目前為止中文到目前為止不夠清楚嗎到目前為止有多少家 |
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因為在公告期間所以沒有好 到目前為止沒有嘛 對不對那很簡單的問題嘛所以就是我們要加強嘛剛剛北溪也說了這個構想我覺得很好可是如果到目前為止都還沒有人來申請那我覺得我們是不是要加強一下嘛我當然知道公告期間啊難道按照你這樣講的意思是說5月14號自然就會很多嗎不要這樣講嘛今天在這裡備詢就是答今天的事情嘛 是不是是 完全同意 |
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完全同意以後要照這樣做好不好部長改善一下那另外據本市所知道國科會的國網中心在去年我們有成立一個台灣算力聯盟那部長知道這個聯盟嗎知道那這個聯盟其實也很棒就是說我們要擴大算力的應用推廣來結合產業或者是學術然後公共單位的需求但我看了一下我個人覺得 |
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跟速發部這一次BOO的這個案子的這個目標或是方向其實蠻雷同的那我不曉得說未來如果說目前我們是零但是在5月14號之後如果有企業我們來申請了以後那我們成行以後是不是會把這個資源呢併入到這個聯盟裡面去有這樣的想法嗎 |
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基本上這是兩個不同的目的我們樹發部主要是要提供產業界足夠的算力那國科會的國網中心主要是要提供政府單位以及研究單位包含那個大學等 |
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那有足夠的算力所以我們速發布這個案子我們的這個算力是會收費的基本上因為這是商業營運然後國網中心他提供的這些算力有的是會有優惠的價格那有的是會是以免費的方式提供給所以還有費用不同的問題是 |
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好那但是我在想喔因為我們現在喔不曉得就是部長知不知道我們整個公部門現在的算力中心有建置的有多少你有去了解過嗎因為這是國如同我們剛才講的這是國科會國網中心那邊的職責所以我們大概知道但是因為數據我的記性沒有這麼好我沒辦法在那邊講出那個很明確的數字那如果說委員這邊有需要的話很好本席非常喜歡你這種務實的答詢喔是 |
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那我覺得這樣講啦就是說我們政府現在有在提倡嘛要建設AI之島所以我們知道AI很重要 算力很重要那既然我們國科會現在其實也有很多的計畫在走那訴發部也在做可是看起來訴發部也不算是在國科會這個聯盟之下而是我們單獨有一個我們自己的作用嘛但是呢 未來到底我們整個政府它一個公部門是一個整體的我們怎麼去整合那我想聽你這樣講是以國科會為主不是訴發部為主嗎 |
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我們是不同就是說產業的算力需求由我們抒發部這邊來主責來解決然後政府機關跟學術單位的算力需求由國科會來負責解決這個是我們的分工好可以我同意我想分工很重要那當然整合很重要這未來當然我們跟國科會這邊再來討論就是分工之後那我們怎麼去統合這樣的一個資源所以這個部分就希望這個案子不錯那希望這個部長繼續加油好嗎謝謝委員的支持與鼓勵謝謝 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:28:46.940000+08:00 |
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謝謝召委。 |
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0.5 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:28:47.080000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:28:52.628000+08:00 |
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因為時間有限，請陳崇樹代理主委跟林宜敬部長一起上來。 |
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主席 |
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請陳代理主委及林部長。 |
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0.7 |
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陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
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2026-04-22T09:28:59.782000+08:00 |
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委員早。 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:29:01.383000+08:00 |
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我想先請教一下陳代理主委，上次在備詢的時候，本席有聽到你說不知道現在行政院是不是有提出NCC的委員新名單，但是你隨即也表示，7月底之前如果沒有辦法補足人事，恐怕未來完全無法運作。 |
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0.939 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:29:19.779000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:29:35.646000+08:00 |
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依據通訊傳播委員會組織法規定，我們知道在屆期前3個月必須要提出新的委員人選名單，但是這個時間點就是4月底，也就剩下8天的時間，目前新的提名作業進展到哪裡了？ |
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1 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:29:35.946000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:29:36.286000+08:00 |
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主委知道嗎？ |
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1 |
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陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
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2026-04-22T09:29:37.815000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:29:40.357000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，這部分我是毫無所悉。 |
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0.714 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:29:41.078000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:29:43.299000+08:00 |
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到現在還是毫無所悉？是。 |
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0.9 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:29:43.880000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:00.214000+08:00 |
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雖然我們知道NCC的提名權是在行政院手中，可是您現在是代理主委，我想也不應該置身事外，尤其7月底一到，NCC就如同空城一般，這也是您自己所預期的，屆時可能業務就會停擺。 |
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0.961 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:01.115000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:04.337000+08:00 |
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難道主委都沒有主動與行政院討論過相關人事嗎？ |
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0.81 |
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陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:05.709000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:11.999000+08:00 |
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有跟行政院相關長官談過，也有反映這件事。 |
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0.889 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:12.760000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:15.365000+08:00 |
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相關長官是誰？ |
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1 |
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陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:15.365000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:20.819000+08:00 |
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比方院長辦公室或政委等等。院長？好。 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:21.639000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:27.321000+08:00 |
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我看過您的資歷，其實您在NCC待的時間滿久的，做過科長、簡任技正、三個處的處長、主秘等等，對NCC的作業非常了解。 |
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0.82 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:27.602000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:30.523000+08:00 |
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本席認為你應該就你的經驗跟專業加強與行政院溝通，甚至可以推薦一些人選。 |
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0.909 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:30.983000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:31.783000+08:00 |
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現在還剩下八天，但新的人選都沒有出來！ |
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萬委員美玲 |
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是因為在專業領域找不到人才？ |
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0.846 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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還是專業與否不重要，是不是自己人才重要？ |
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1 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:53.062000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:53.322000+08:00 |
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是哪一種？ |
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陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:55.932000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:30:58.933000+08:00 |
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過往曾提名過兩次，所以有一些處理經驗。 |
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0.824 |
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陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
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2026-04-22T09:31:07.056000+08:00 |
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昨天在院會院長有做一些說明，我相信院長應該會有一些考量來處理…… |
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0.966 |
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萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-22T09:31:07.496000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-22T09:31:10.957000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
你的相信不重要，你用專業去建議才是比較重要的。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-22T09:31:12.357000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-22T09:31:15.899000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
現在剩下八天，人選卻一直沒有出來，我想請教，您是不是有被徵詢要連任？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.633 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-22T09:31:17.829000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-22T09:31:18.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
目前沒有。沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-22T09:31:19.690000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-22T09:31:22.392000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
如果徵詢您的話，您會連任嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-22T09:31:22.552000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-22T09:31:24.513000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
您要表達意願，這樣我們才知道將來要怎麼處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-22T09:31:27.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-22T09:31:33.399000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
臺灣人才濟濟，適合擔任委員的人應該所在多有。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-22T09:31:34.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-22T09:31:40.323000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
如果可以的話，我相信把用人空間留給院長會比較好。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-22T09:31:40.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-22T09:31:41.884000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
所以不想做了，不想繼續連任？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-22T09:31:42.405000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-22T09:31:43.545000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
不是，這是尊重院長的選擇。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-22T09:31:44.526000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-22T09:31:47.848000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
好，但還是要加快腳步，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-22T09:31:48.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-22T09:31:49.810000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
謝謝，陳主委先請回。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-22T09:31:51.431000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-22T09:31:53.312000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
接下來我想請教林部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-22T09:31:53.312000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-22T09:32:02.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
部長，數發部在4月15號發布徵求民間自行規劃申請參與AI算力中心的BOO案，對不對？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.946 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-22T09:32:03.019000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-22T09:32:08.223000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
也就是一個公告，希望能以促參方式，讓企業投入建置AI算力中心。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-22T09:32:09.804000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-22T09:32:22.493000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
當然，參與機構要有一定比例的算力提供給政府、學術單位無償或者優惠使用，從而協助中小企業在合理的成本或優惠的成本之下，取得算力資源。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.883 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-22T09:32:24.475000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-22T09:32:27.837000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
本席覺得這個構想真的非常好，也支持。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-22T09:32:27.837000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-22T09:32:29.258000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
是，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-22T09:32:29.258000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-22T09:32:35.563000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
4月15號案子出來以後，申請時間到5月14號，等於有一月的時間。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-22T09:32:35.963000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-22T09:32:40.266000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
請問部長，你原本預期會有多少家企業來申請？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-22T09:32:40.786000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-22T09:32:46.950000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
本席之前有看到、媒體也說鴻海好像會來，所以當時我們覺得真的很棒。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-22T09:32:47.891000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-22T09:32:48.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
所以你預期有多少家？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-22T09:32:49.392000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-22T09:32:50.433000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
現在有多少家來申請了？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-22T09:32:51.574000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-22T09:32:54.696000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
目前實際遞案的應該就是鴻海一家。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-22T09:32:55.316000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-22T09:32:55.997000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
鴻海來申請了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
蔡司長壽洤 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-22T09:32:55.997000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-22T09:32:59.372000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
鴻海透過子公司有透過…… |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-22T09:32:59.372000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:01.513000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
要講清楚，鴻海有來申請了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
蔡司長壽洤 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:01.513000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:01.973000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
現在還沒有…… |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:02.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:02.553000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
還沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:02.913000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:06.394000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
部長，既然還沒有，你怎麼可以在這裡回答我鴻海有來申請？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.792 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
蔡司長壽洤 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:06.394000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:11.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
跟委員報告，它已經在我們公告之前提出規劃構想書，我們憑……不是！ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:11.995000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:16.796000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
提出規劃構想是一回事，而且本席問得很清楚：鴻海來申請了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:17.336000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:19.056000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
部長，鴻海到底來申請了沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
蔡司長壽洤 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:23.530000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:27.531000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
沒有，而且現在還在政策公告期間，還沒有截止。是嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:28.272000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:29.952000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
所以鴻海來申請了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:29.952000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:31.213000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
此時此刻，本席在這裡詢問嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
蔡司長壽洤 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:31.213000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:32.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
政策公告期間還沒。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:33.033000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:34.073000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
就是沒有，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:34.614000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:38.015000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
正式是還沒有，但之前已經跟我們密切聯繫，而且還提出構想書…… |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:39.475000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:39.475000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
密切聯繫？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:39.475000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:41.456000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
所以你認為百分之百一定會提出申請？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:41.456000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:41.816000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
這個我不能保證，因為它是民間企業…… |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.467 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:41.997000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:42.877000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
既然不能保證，就應該就現狀、此時此刻…… |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:42.877000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:43.877000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
它是民間企業，我無法幫它保證！ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:42.897000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:43.797000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
本席在委員會問你，你當然就應該要講現在，而且我沒有要你保證！ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:43.817000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:43.897000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
我剛才的問題你要…… |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:43.897000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:44.897000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
你剛剛問我有沒有保證…… |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:44.078000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:44.098000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
聽清楚！ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:44.278000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:45.498000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
本席是在此時此刻問你，有多少家來申請？ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:45.498000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:45.838000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
你說鴻海。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:45.858000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:46.579000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
結果現在、此時此刻，鴻海是沒有提出來的！ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:46.739000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:46.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
誰要你保證？ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-04-22T09:33:46.979000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-04-22T09:33:47.519000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
你有什麼本事保證？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:03.687000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:05.868000+08:00 |
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是，完全同意，這就是我要講的，我沒有這個本事保證…… |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:05.868000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:07.329000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
沒有錯，所以你要據實回答。 |
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0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:07.889000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:11.651000+08:00 |
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在委員會可以隨意答詢嗎？抱歉。 |
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0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:12.051000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:14.212000+08:00 |
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不可以用這種態度答詢，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:14.592000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:19.114000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
沒有要你保證，也沒有人能夠保證鴻海會不會來，但你要據實答詢。當然。 |
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0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:19.514000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:21.955000+08:00 |
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你要據實答詢，這件事很重要，你能明白嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:21.955000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:22.955000+08:00 |
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是，委員，其實我們的意思是一樣的。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:21.955000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:23.376000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
所以你以後會據實答詢嗎？我…… |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:23.396000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:24.336000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
現在有多少家來申請了？ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:24.356000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:33.194000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
部長，現在有多少家來申請了？報告…… |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:33.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:34.275000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
您是部長嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:35.655000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:37.776000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
部長，現在有多少家來申請？ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:37.776000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:40.817000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
現在還在公告期間，剛才司長已經說明…… |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:41.257000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:42.237000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
到目前為止、到目前為止……所以…… |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.417 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:43.898000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:46.959000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
我問的問題很清楚，到目前為止有多少家來申請？ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:47.539000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:51.140000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
如果照這種定義、照委員您這樣的定義是沒有，現在一家都沒有！零嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0.893 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:51.561000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:52.601000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
這有什麼好定義不定義的？ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:52.601000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:53.681000+08:00 |
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很清楚，就我問你答。 |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:54.061000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:54.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
因為現在還在公告期間。 |
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0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:54.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:55.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
這有什麼好定義的？ |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:55.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:56.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
現在還在公告期間，因為公告期間…… |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.286 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:54.702000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:55.002000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
到目前為止！ |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:55.082000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:57.202000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
中文「到目前為止」不夠清楚嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-04-22T09:34:57.202000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-04-22T09:34:57.543000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
到目前為止有多少家？ |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-04-22T09:35:04.469000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-04-22T09:35:05.850000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
因為在公告期間，所以沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-04-22T09:35:06.631000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-04-22T09:35:08.072000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
到目前為止沒有，對不對？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-04-22T09:35:08.772000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-04-22T09:35:11.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
這是很簡單的問題，所以為什麼我們要加強！ |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0.722 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-04-22T09:35:11.874000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-04-22T09:35:14.196000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
剛剛本席也說了，我覺得這個構想很好……謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0.611 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-04-22T09:35:14.756000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-04-22T09:35:19.019000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
可是如果到目前為止都還沒有人申請，我覺得是不是要加強一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-04-22T09:35:19.019000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-04-22T09:35:20.019000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
因為還在公告期間。 |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-04-22T09:35:19.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-04-22T09:35:25.143000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
我當然知道在公告期限，按照你這樣講，你的意思是5月14號自然就會很多嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-04-22T09:35:25.143000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-04-22T09:35:25.744000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
不要這樣講！ |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-04-22T09:35:26.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-04-22T09:35:28.926000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
今天在這裡備詢就是答今天的事情，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-04-22T09:35:29.426000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2026-04-22T09:35:30.207000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
是，完全同意。 |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-04-22T09:35:30.567000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-04-22T09:35:30.987000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
完全同意？ |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-04-22T09:35:31.047000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-04-22T09:35:32.368000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
以後要照這樣做，好不好？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-04-22T09:35:32.649000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-04-22T09:35:33.549000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
請部長改善一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-04-22T09:35:34.490000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-04-22T09:35:35.831000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
另外，據本席所知，國科會的國網中心在去年成立臺灣算力聯盟，部長知道這個聯盟嗎？知道。知道？ |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-04-22T09:35:35.951000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-04-22T09:35:37.832000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
這個聯盟其實也很棒，因為我們要擴大算力的應用推廣來結合產業、學術或公共單位的需求。 |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-04-22T09:35:37.932000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-04-22T09:36:13.518000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
但我看了一下，我個人覺得跟數發部這一次BOO案的目標或方向其實滿雷同的，不曉得未來……目前是零，但在5月14號之後如果有企業來申請，一旦成形，是否會把資源併入該聯盟？ |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-04-22T09:36:14.198000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-04-22T09:36:14.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
有這樣的想法嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-04-22T09:36:15.399000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-04-22T09:36:32.082000+08:00 |
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基本上這是兩個不同的目的，數發部主要是提供產業界足夠的算力，而國科會國網中心主要是提供政府單位以及研究單位，包含大學等有足夠的算力。 |
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0.968 |
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林部長宜敬 |
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2026-04-22T09:36:33.162000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:36:46.190000+08:00 |
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而且數發部案子的算力是會收費的，畢竟屬商業營運；至於國網中心提供的算力，有的會有優惠價格，有的則以免費方式提供給不同單位…… |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:36:46.190000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:36:47.270000+08:00 |
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所以還有費用不同的問題？是。 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:36:52.013000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:36:56.115000+08:00 |
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部長知不知道現在整個公部門所建置的算力中心有多少？ |
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0.792 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:36:56.475000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:36:58.276000+08:00 |
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你有去了解過嗎？ |
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| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
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2026-04-22T09:36:59.216000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:09.681000+08:00 |
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如同剛剛所講，這是國科會國網中心的職責，我們雖然大概知道，至於數據，因為我的記性沒這麼好，沒辦法講出很明確的數字。 |
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0.843 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:10.342000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:11.963000+08:00 |
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如果委員有需要的話……很好！ |
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1 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:12.483000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:13.383000+08:00 |
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本席非常喜歡你這種務實的答詢。 |
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1 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:16.165000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:20.928000+08:00 |
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這樣講好了，現在政府也在提倡要建設AI之島，所以我們知道AI很重要，算力很重要。 |
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0.861 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:22.289000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:32.957000+08:00 |
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其實國科會有很多計畫在走，數發部也在做，但看起來數發部並不在國科會的聯盟之下，而是單獨有自己的作用。是。 |
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0.851 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:33.437000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:37.360000+08:00 |
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至於未來，整個政府、公部門到底是整體的，所以該怎麼去整合？ |
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0.72 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:38.721000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:40.802000+08:00 |
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聽你這樣講，是以國科會為主，不是數發部為主？ |
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0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:42.103000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:43.143000+08:00 |
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我們是不同的。 |
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0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:43.503000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:54.626000+08:00 |
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也就是說產業的算力需求，由數發部主責解決；政府機關跟學術單位的算力需求，由國科會負責解決，這是我們的分工。 |
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0.958 |
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萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:55.267000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:55.847000+08:00 |
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可以，我同意。 |
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| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:37:56.747000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:38:03.949000+08:00 |
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分工很重要，當然，整合也很重要，未來就有待你們與國科會再討論，也就是分工之後怎麼去統合資源。 |
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0.829 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
萬委員美玲 |
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2026-04-22T09:38:05.990000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:38:09.071000+08:00 |
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這個案子不錯，希望部長繼續加油，好嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[131].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[132].start |
2026-04-22T09:38:09.071000+08:00 |
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2026-04-22T09:38:10.071000+08:00 |
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謝謝委員的支持與鼓勵。謝謝。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[133].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-04-22T09:38:10.571000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-22T09:38:14.571000+08:00 |
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謝謝萬美玲委員的發言，謝謝部長。 |
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0 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-22T09:38:14.871000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-22T09:38:18.013857+08:00 |
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接下來請李昆澤委員發言。 |
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