| IVOD_ID |
168651 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168651 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第7次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第7次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-21T11:49:32+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-21T12:05:33+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:01 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
王定宇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:49:32 - 12:05:33 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第7次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院國民黨黨團，建請院會作成決議：「針對開放印度移工來台，國人深感憂心，要求行政院院長率相關部會首長向立法院提出『開放印度移工來台對我國整體勞工政策與社會治安的衝擊及相關配套（含強化國與國直聘制度及失聯移工強制遣返機制）防治作為』專案報告，並備質詢。」是否有當？請公決案等4案。（4月17日）二、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。（4月17日）三、邀請行政院院長、主計長、財政部部長列席報告「115年度中央政府總預算案」編製經過並備質詢（含志願役軍人加薪及警消人員退休金等預算編製處理情形併予報告）。（4月21日）四、4月17日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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好 謝謝副院長 麻煩卓院長那相關部會如果提到的話 可以執行上來請卓院長備詢 |
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我經常看了一個表過去10年來我們國家總預算負為審查的時間10年我是可以掉20年結果都一樣2016年到2025年 |
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其實我們都會在預算年度開始前付為審查這其實是我們立法院根據憲法我們的責任這不是權利我們今年要審明年的那現在是2026年的4月已經下旬了 |
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我們國家史上第一次國家總預算預算年度都已經展開將近40%的時間才付為審查就算順利審查完成最後三讀我估計大概到年中了也就是年度過一半我們國家的總預算還在才開始審查審查中到審查完成 |
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那這樣會導致什麼情形呢我們的政策計畫那因為國家的政策計畫會帶動我們民間的預期的投資比如說我們政府要獎勵我們的電動巴士或者我們的政府呢有針對不動產有什麼樣的做法民間會有因應的預期作為就因為這樣的展延整個線路停滯或混亂另外呢因為通過的時間預算年度已經過一半了 |
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各部會各公務機關你可以執行的時間剩一半會產生三個情形我們待會可能各部會我們會舉個例子舉些例子來看它導致的結果因為這是我們國家史上首次這樣子所以有一些政策會因為預算在立法院審查延宕根本導致無法執行就沒有了 |
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過了簽約期啊或者就沒辦法執行了有或沒有第二種哪些政策會因為預算審查延宕導致執行進度延後那影響成效本來在這個時候做喔 要很半年後架起來年底就會帶動你現在一延後影響成效 |
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第三種,有些政策因為預算延宕審查導致人民的福利取得展延這三個面向我不是客氣,就院長印象所及可不可以各舉一個例子,你認為有的好,就交通的補助而言,大家常常談很多交通的補助無論如何,718億何時通過,它都已經超過了1月1號了 |
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市場已經延誤了 超越很久了對地方政府必須先行電資那我們還要跟地方政府算賬 這是一個例子 |
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那這個訊期快到了防訊期的工程應該在1月1號一開始就可以全面的展開做各種的細部規劃甚至開招標等等那現在也有很多有延誤了雖然有些我們也已經在就原有的計畫在執行但是不是全面在做還是做起來相當的礙手礙腳我有見過雷啦我本來要拿國防因為國防討論很多那顧部長卻先不用上來國防那個更的是國防有的你約沒有簽過了沒有要重來啊國防那個更的是 |
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一次的延誤可能好幾年都追不回來我舉第一個例子生育補助十萬後我們在基層跑生育十萬後咧我跟他講社會福利的問題早一天通過就全面實施晚一天通過就必須要拖延我們原來年度預算今年的規劃是每胎補助十萬嘛那目前的做法是先發原來的四萬待預算通過之後再補給你是照原來你的生育的各項 |
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保險的給付就補給你多少錢就先發了那到10萬的這個差距我們就依照我們現在政策的我本來以為說補就慢點領我今天質詢這一題是因為我收到一對新手父母的陳情這個我要請教我們院裡面的態度他說他本來期待啊孩子出生了那就按照原來現有的保險補助領了三四萬塊錢那過一小段時間他孩子夭折了 |
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腰折了那我先請教他能補發嗎就我們現在制度我不了解我要請教這個事情我認為就法律命令而已應該在他事情發生的時候他是具有資格的他是有資格領的嘛他是有資格的就洪山部長就是說我這個是個案啦我覺得很遺憾因為那個新手父母說 |
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孩子是不是很高興啊要政府這個十萬塊錢我還看到以後獨幼兒園國家陪你一起養然後呢第一胎每個月還可以領五千嘛領到六歲嘛他充滿了期待但後來就發生這個生育補助因為前面會有一段是生育給付這是來自這個社會保險的部分這當然應該已經會發了對他已經發了那我自己認為這個生育補助的部分按照這個狀況的話因為他有生育的事實其實應該 |
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應該要補發啦我覺得遺憾但是應該補發因為沒有父母可以預測下個月下下個月孩子沒有人希望嘛可是那個當下那個moment立法院延宕審查預算啊否則他當下應該就可以領了嘛所以我現在請問這個事情透過個案我們希望沒有這個事情但確實它發生了是應該補發的應該這個確實啦好我先確認這個事情這就一個例子預算的延宕其實會導致 |
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人民福利取得的展延那展延會發生一些我們不想看到的變數另外一個例子是新興部會這個就雖然洪森漢這個影片很多跳舞的影片那個不是你啦但是這個是李洋的事情我們新興部會像這個 |
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運動部是一個新部會所以他很多計畫預算都是新編列的那個預算沒過其實我覺得運動部衝擊影響的其實應該是最大那我就要請教因為這樣的預算延宕近半個年度我們從8個月前編列就算最慢11月份復違都可以預期就算慢一點還是會通過 |
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運動部受到預算延宕審查有哪些影響我剛有三個類別就沒有了或者執行成效時間縮短了成效預期會縮水或者我本來要鼓勵選手的變成延後那個運動部這邊你們有沒有什麼說明我們現在事實上是努力的在 |
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過去的一些計畫我知道你們很努力我現在我們就很客觀的就是因為史上首次以前沒有發生過預算現在四月份不為審查就算順利審查三讀通過五月底大概這個會計年度過一半了你們不會受到什麼影響我們目前是在國際賽的那個地方事實上是比較慢的因為的確舉個例子慢了什麼譬如說我們的國際賽我們就沒有辦法去辦當時為了以台灣為 |
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為民的一些國際賽事就沒有辦法辦你說在台灣舉辦的對對對我們最近不是有一件嗎像這個 |
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這個在新北市舉行的田徑的國際賽他就是因為這個預算出現了問題所以我的預算沒辦法到位嘛但是後來又建議說他可以用基金的方式來舉辦所以重新再向國際總會去申請他已經核准我們再辦這個就變成自己找自己麻煩嘛我們本來以台灣為名在新北要辦個田徑賽 |
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那預算延宕審查錢沒有到位就沒辦法辦那現在另外找裁員找基金那找基金你要回頭找國際授權舉辦的單位再回來一次嘛沒錯那他已經核准幸好他已經核准他核准啦所以這叫展業啦他如果沒有核准就沒了耶是啊是 |
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那我們有沒有一些選手的相關的計畫受到這個影響目前是還好因為我們原本的預算可以支應前半段用過去舊的可是因為我們擴大我們對選手的資源如果沒有把預算審查完我們沒有辦法擴大所以擴大的部分就沒有對可是現在就算預算通過已經過了半個年度了 |
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前面半年人生青春不能再回嘛所以你後面擴大也只有後面半年我對運動部的要求是無論如何不要影響今年亞運賽所有的備賽的準備程序亞運賽除了選手之外還有行政作業院長這個宣示對穩定軍心很重要但是我要問院長的是 |
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這樣子的預算延宕審查你統籌全國政務在運動體育的部分有沒有影響當然有影響剛剛已經看到真正的影響了那是一個項目嘛 是有沒有其他相關的受到影響的部分我覺得要讓國人知道因為包括國際賽事除了這一項是日程已到其他地方是不敢下去籌備對 因為預算沒有過誰告訴你預算一定過沒有辦法籌備你現在都沒辦法籌備嘛 |
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哪怕七月份要辦的十月份要辦的你不能開始籌備那等到預算通過了延宕了這麼久你籌備也會了效啊你也只能簡化來處理這個是一個部分我在移到其實很多例子運動部這邊你就先請回今天李洋部長請假那個防災救災就剛才院長你有提到的防災救災的預算受到影響是什麼 |
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最重要就是汛期來了汛期來了很多的防水治水的預算雖然我們本來有一些可以用的但是要整個年度的發包大家還是不知道會不會我們歸人最有名的易淹水區域有一條叫做淹水溪有個提案我感謝我們水利署這個編列進去他那個提案編在今年度要做現在都不敢發包不敢弄了就預算卡住了卡住現在這個其實我這邊為什麼要列這個汛期的你知道嗎 |
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因為到五月六月進入汛期你就不能做啦你應該是去年通過不是來不及是根本連施工都沒辦法因為汛期沒辦法施工本來趕在五月汛期來臨前該做的提案該堆的沙包該做的水路要做處理那這預算沒有過好啦我們現在四月份大發慈悲了藍白讓你審查了就算五月份通過了進入汛期你發包也不能做啊然後這一年的颱風 |
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六七八九靠運氣嗎所以這個影響其實很大這個委員非常的清楚那我們要體諒所有的公務人員雖然我們有一些預算去年有的今年有的還是可以相當的比例可以來執行但是沒有人知道今年這筆預算會被刪除掉多少所以大家都是愛手愛腳就像那個七百一十八億不審查抽出來說這個讓你先花了那個佔總預算兩趴而已誰敢花 不敢 |
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誰知道審查的時候會被砍掉後來黨團協商說我們保證不砍那已經是多少個月以後了所以這種不正常的杯葛方式導致的我今天只舉這幾個例子福利設施國防治水防洪新興部會那個影響的不是政治上的衝擊不是當官的當部長的人受衝擊是扎扎實實在每個面向的人民在受害 |
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然後我們現在在審查了我不知道亡羊補牢有的來不及有的來得及我真的希望我們在立法院各委員會其實就不要太多的政治攻防該監督的監督但是不要太多的政治攻防因為一直延宕以治水防洪來講 |
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台灣現在這種極端氣候下台灣都是潛在的受災區以國防來講你沒有簽約誰告訴你過了幾個月人家還要賣你這個影響都很大的所以有關今年的颱風季節訊息要到我們院裡面有做什麼樣的準備現在預算都還沒有完全過我們還是把我們原來的系統性治水 |
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的過程已經安排計劃的去年延續到現在還是持續的進行下去但今年我們新增的這個四年一千億的這個縣市館河川的改善工程今年有五百多億 今年有六十多億縣市館的 中央館三十幾億總共一百億都沒辦法用那個廣播長上來啦你腦海裡面現在沒有哪一條例子就是本來要做了預算現在嚴當嘛所以只好暫緩 |
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所以本來今年初發包可以做固定的提案或者防洪治水的設施現在只好要等汛期過年底再來做的有沒有這樣個案原來都已經跟地方政府談好有幾條溪水就是縣市管河川的部分包括中南部地區包括雲林以南的事實上都有談好的但是因為這個預算被 |
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就是沒有辦法審議,所以就沒有辦法去施作你能不能講幾條,我不是跟你客氣啦,講得出來講哪幾條戲我可能要大概就好你要具體啊,民眾才會感覺說我們到旁邊那條K本來,中央跟地方政府說好預算到後就要做了,現在還沒做,預算延宕啊沒辦法做啊,你有沒有具體的,具體化民眾感受會比較直接啦 |
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這個水利署可以把資料完成我覺得可以公佈本來中央跟地方協力嘛中央跟地方其實沒有什麼黨派之分我記得宜蘭也有 南部都有中南部這邊溪流原來都是協調好 預算到位就要做了現在因為預算延宕所以只好延後延後現在遇到汛期不能做又要一延延到九月十月以後這個影響其實其實有時候我很難想像萬一的時候 |
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這影響很大所以我建議我們經濟部這個其實可以整理出來民眾要了解否則我跟你講我們接下來九月份又要審下個年度的會不會再發生這樣的事情沒有人知道希望不會啦沒有人會知道第一個希望剛剛委員第一個拿出的那個表那個那張表格 |
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只此一次不再有下次我們還是正常的進行再來針對今年的總預算我在上禮拜的院會我已經拜託我們所有部會首長做好所有的準備來說明剛好經濟部長也在這邊其實我最後半分鐘要問的跟剛才范雲委員在關憲是一樣 |
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因為我們這2026年度的預算是8個月前開始編列的那時候沒辦法預測到現在波斯灣的情形那穩定油價、電價、水費這些叫物價之母也就是很多人說發現金就好其實你去穩定物價、油價帶給人民節省省下來的其實會更多啦我們現在預算準備是否足夠就現在的預算包委員我們就是這一次的這個包括台電也好或中油吸收的部分我們大概有準備了一些資料 |
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好 謝謝 |
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王委員定宇 |
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謝謝副院長。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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麻煩卓院長，相關部會如果提到的話，可以自行上來。 |
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主席 |
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請卓院長備詢。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T11:49:54.609000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-21T11:50:01.077000+08:00 |
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委員好。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T11:50:01.077000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-21T11:50:07.545000+08:00 |
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辛苦了！ |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T11:50:07.545000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T11:50:20.020000+08:00 |
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我今天早上看到一個統計表，即過去十年來我們國家總預算付委審查的時間，十年，雖然我可以調到二十年，但結果都一樣。 |
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0.62 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T11:50:20.020000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T11:50:35.153000+08:00 |
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從2016年到2025年，我們都會在預算年度開始前付委審查，這是立法院根據憲法所為，是我們的責任，不是權利。 |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.878 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-04-21T11:50:35.994000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T11:50:53.639000+08:00 |
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換句話說，我們今年要審明年的，可是現在已經是2026年4月下旬了，我們國家史上第一次，國家總預算的預算年度都已經展開將近百分之四十的時間才付委審查！ |
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0.766 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T11:50:54.379000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-04-21T11:51:07.722000+08:00 |
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就算順利審查完成，最後通過三讀，我估計大概到年中，也就是年度已經過一半，我們國家的總預算才開始審查，從審查中到審查完成。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.907 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T11:51:09.375000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-04-21T11:51:09.915000+08:00 |
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這會導致什麼情形？ |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T11:51:12.896000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-04-21T11:51:33.819000+08:00 |
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因為國家的政策、計畫會帶動民間的預期投資，譬如政府要獎勵電動巴士，或者政府針對不動產有什麼樣的做法，民間會有因應的預期作為，現在卻因為這樣的展延，整個陷入停滯或混亂！ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-04-21T11:51:33.819000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-04-21T11:51:42.055000+08:00 |
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另外，由於預算年度已經過一半預算才通過，導致各部會、各公務機關可以執行的時間剩一半。 |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.763 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T11:51:43.396000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T11:52:07.442000+08:00 |
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這會產生三個情形，我舉各部會的例子來看所導致的結果，第一種，因為這是我們國家史上首次這樣子，所以一些政策會因為預算在立法院審查延宕而無法執行，然後就沒有了，因為已經過了簽約期，或者就沒辦法執行了，有或沒有。 |
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0.851 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T11:52:07.982000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-04-21T11:52:16.465000+08:00 |
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第二種，哪些政策會因為預算審查延宕導致執行進度延後，從而影響成效？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-04-21T11:52:17.205000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-04-21T11:52:23.007000+08:00 |
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本來在這時候做，譬如前半年把效果做出來，到年底就會帶動，但現在一延後，影響成效。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-04-21T11:52:23.727000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-04-21T11:52:30.274000+08:00 |
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第三種，有些政策因為預算延宕審查，導致人民的福利取得展延。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-04-21T11:52:32.015000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-04-21T11:52:37.381000+08:00 |
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這不是考試，就院長印象所及，這三個面向可不可以各舉一個例子，你認為有…… |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.774 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-21T11:52:37.741000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-04-21T11:52:42.085000+08:00 |
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就交通的補助而言，大家常常談到很多交通的補助。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-21T11:52:42.646000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-21T11:52:48.934000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
無論718億何時通過，都已經超過1月1號了，事實上已經延誤了！ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-21T11:52:48.934000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-21T11:52:49.934000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
超過很久了！ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-21T11:52:49.415000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-21T11:52:50.437000+08:00 |
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對，超過很久了。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-21T11:52:51.539000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-21T11:52:56.349000+08:00 |
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對地方政府來說就必須先行墊支，所以我們還要再跟地方政府算帳，這是一個例子。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.735 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-21T11:52:58.842000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-21T11:53:08.824000+08:00 |
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現在汛期快到了，防汛工程應該在1月1號一開始就全面展開，做各種細部規劃，甚至開招標等等，現在很多也延誤了。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.891 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-21T11:53:09.425000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-21T11:53:16.146000+08:00 |
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雖然有些已經就原有的計畫在執行，但不是全面在做，做起來還是相當礙手礙腳。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-21T11:53:16.146000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-21T11:53:20.727000+08:00 |
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我找了一些例子，我本來要拿國防做例子，但國防討論了很多……顧部長先不用上來。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-21T11:53:20.727000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-21T11:53:21.407000+08:00 |
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國防更是…… |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-21T11:53:22.347000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-21T11:53:24.368000+08:00 |
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國防有的約如果沒有簽，時間過了就無法重來！ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.632 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-21T11:53:24.808000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-21T11:53:28.549000+08:00 |
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國防更是一次的延誤可能好幾年都追不回來！ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-21T11:53:28.549000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-21T11:53:30.510000+08:00 |
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我舉第一個例子，生育補助10萬。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-21T11:53:31.050000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-21T11:53:32.631000+08:00 |
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我們在基層跑，生小孩補助10萬塊…… |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.615 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-21T11:53:34.871000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-21T11:53:40.433000+08:00 |
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是，還有社會福利的問題，早一天通過就可以全面實施，晚一天通過就必須要拖延好幾個…… |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-21T11:53:40.654000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-21T11:53:52.318000+08:00 |
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以我們原來的年度預算，今年的規劃是每胎補助10萬，而目前的做法是先發原來的4萬，待預算通過之後再補給你。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.935 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-21T11:53:53.138000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-21T11:53:56.732000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
照原來生育的各項保險給付…… |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-21T11:53:57.513000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-21T11:53:57.513000+08:00 |
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補給你。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-21T11:53:57.873000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-21T11:54:02.114000+08:00 |
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多少錢就先發了，至於到10萬的差距，我們就依照現在政策的執行…… |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-21T11:54:02.294000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-21T11:54:13.498000+08:00 |
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我本來以為補只是慢點領，其實我今天質詢這題是因為我收到一對新手父母的陳情，因此我要請教院裡面的態度。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.872 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-21T11:54:14.299000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-21T11:54:30.080000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
他說本來很期待，孩子也出生了，於是按照原來現有的保險補助領了3、4萬塊錢，但過了一小段時間，孩子夭折了，我先請教，他能補發嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.887 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-21T11:54:30.080000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-21T11:54:32.241000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
就我們現在的制度來說，因為我不了解，所以我要請教。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.682 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-21T11:54:32.781000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-21T11:54:36.742000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
我認為就法律面而言，在事情發生的時候他是具有資格的。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-21T11:54:36.762000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-21T11:54:37.642000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
他是有資格領的嘛。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-21T11:54:37.762000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-21T11:54:38.442000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
他是有資格的。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-21T11:54:39.402000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-21T11:54:58.507000+08:00 |
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洪申翰部長，這是個案，我覺得很遺憾，該對新手父母說，孩子出生很高興，因為政府給10萬塊錢，還看到政府說以後讀幼兒園，國家陪你一起養，然後第一胎每個月還可以領5,000元，領到6歲，他們充滿了期待，但後來就發生了憾事。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.787 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
洪部長申翰 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-21T11:54:59.207000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-21T11:55:06.688000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
有關於生育補助，前面有一段是生育給付，這是來自社會保險的部分，這當然應該已經發了…… |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.919 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-21T11:55:07.269000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-21T11:55:07.569000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
對，已經發了。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
洪部長申翰 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-21T11:55:08.269000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-21T11:55:13.590000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
我自己認為生育補助的部分，按照這個狀況，因為有生育的事實，所以是應該要補發。 |
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0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-21T11:55:14.510000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-21T11:55:15.050000+08:00 |
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應該要補發啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-21T11:55:15.290000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-21T11:55:28.675000+08:00 |
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我覺得遺憾，但應該要補發，因為沒有父母可以預測下個月、下下個月孩子……沒有人希望這樣嘛，可是那個當下、那個moment，是因為立法院延宕審查預算，否則他們當下就可以領了嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.908 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-21T11:55:29.716000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T11:55:37.599000+08:00 |
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所以我現在請問這個事情是透過個案，我們希望沒有這樣的事情，但它確實發生了，是應該補發的。應該。 |
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0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-21T11:55:37.599000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-21T11:55:37.599000+08:00 |
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這個確實啦！確實。 |
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0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-21T11:55:38.479000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T11:55:49.009000+08:00 |
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我先確認這件事情，這就是一個例子，預算的延宕其實會導致人民福利取得的展延，而展延會發生一些我們不想看到的變數。 |
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0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-21T11:55:49.009000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T11:56:13.512000+08:00 |
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另外一個例子是新興部會的部分，雖然洪申翰很多跳舞的影片，但那個不是你啦，這個是李洋的事情，新興部會的部分，像運動部就是一個新部會，所以它很多計畫、預算都是新編列的，預算沒過，我覺得運動部的衝擊影響應該是最大。 |
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0.872 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-21T11:56:14.692000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T11:56:33.069000+08:00 |
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我就要請教，因為預算延宕近半個年度，我們從8個月前編列，就算最慢在11月份付委，都可以預期，就算慢一點，還是會通過，運動部受到預算延宕審查有哪些影響？ |
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0.953 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-21T11:56:33.069000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-21T11:56:45.262000+08:00 |
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我剛才講了三個類別，沒有了或時間縮短導致成效較預期縮水，或者本來要鼓勵選手的變成延後了，運動部這邊有沒有什麼說明？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.868 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-21T11:56:46.123000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-21T11:56:50.416000+08:00 |
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我們現在事實上是很努力地在補過去的一些計畫…… |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-21T11:56:50.416000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T11:57:03.966000+08:00 |
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我知道你們很努力，我們就很客觀的來講，因為是史上首次，以前沒有發生過，預算現在4月份付委審查，就算順利審查、三讀通過，到5月底大概會計年度也過一半了，你們部會會受到什麼影響？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-21T11:57:03.966000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-21T11:57:08.910000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
我們目前在國際賽的部分是比較慢的，因為的確在沒有通過之前…… |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-21T11:57:08.910000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-21T11:57:10.411000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
舉個例子，慢了什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-21T11:57:10.511000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-21T11:57:18.120000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
比如我們的國際賽就沒辦法舉辦，當時要以臺灣為名的一些國際賽事就沒有辦法辦了。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.861 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-21T11:57:18.120000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-21T11:57:19.161000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
你說在臺灣舉辦的？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-21T11:57:20.922000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-21T11:57:20.922000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
對、對、對。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-21T11:57:20.922000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-21T11:57:21.722000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
我們最近不是有一件嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-21T11:57:21.722000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-04-21T11:57:28.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
報告委員，像是在新北市舉行的田徑國際賽就是因為預算出現問題…… |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.821 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-21T11:57:30.114000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-21T11:57:30.855000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
預算沒辦法到位嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-04-21T11:57:31.535000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-04-21T11:57:39.640000+08:00 |
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但是後來又建議可以用基金方式來舉辦，所以重新再向國際總會申請，他已經核准我們再辦。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-21T11:57:39.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-04-21T11:57:40.640000+08:00 |
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用基金去申請。 |
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0 |
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王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-04-21T11:57:39.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-04-21T11:57:40.821000+08:00 |
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這就變成自己找自己麻煩嘛！對啦！ |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-04-21T11:57:40.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-04-21T11:57:41.821000+08:00 |
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本來很順順的可以做。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-04-21T11:57:41.301000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T11:57:56.800000+08:00 |
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我們本來以臺灣為名，在新北要舉辦田徑賽，因為預算延宕審查，錢沒有到位就沒辦法舉辦，現在要另外找財源、找基金，然後再回頭找國際授權舉辦的單位重來一次。沒錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.841 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-04-21T11:57:56.880000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-04-21T11:57:58.182000+08:00 |
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他也已經核准了，幸好他已經核准。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-04-21T11:57:58.342000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-04-21T11:57:59.604000+08:00 |
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他核准了，所以這就展延啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-04-21T11:57:59.604000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-04-21T11:58:00.604000+08:00 |
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4月15號就已經核准。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-04-21T11:58:00.184000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-04-21T11:58:02.207000+08:00 |
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如果沒有核准就沒了耶！是啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-04-21T11:58:03.008000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-04-21T11:58:06.309000+08:00 |
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我們有沒有一些選手的相關計畫因為這樣受到影響？ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-04-21T11:58:06.309000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-04-21T11:58:16.432000+08:00 |
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目前是還好，因為我們原本的預算可以支應前半段，用過去舊的，可是因為我們擴大對選手的支援，如果沒有把預算審查完，我們沒有辦法擴大對選手的支持。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-04-21T11:58:16.792000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-04-21T11:58:18.973000+08:00 |
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所以擴大的部分就沒有？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-04-21T11:58:18.973000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-04-21T11:58:28.258000+08:00 |
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可是現在就算預算通過，也已經過了半個年度，人生青春不能再回嘛，所以後面擴大也只有後面半年啊！是。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.93 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-04-21T11:58:28.818000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-04-21T11:58:38.423000+08:00 |
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我對運動部的要求是無論如何不要影響今年亞運賽的所有備賽準備程序，我們的亞運賽除了選手之外，還有很多行政作業。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-04-21T11:58:38.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-04-21T11:58:51.665000+08:00 |
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院長這個宣示對穩定軍心很重要，但是我要問院長的是，這樣的預算延宕審查，你統籌全國政務，在運動體育的部分有沒有影響？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-04-21T11:58:51.665000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-04-21T11:58:53.467000+08:00 |
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當然有影響，剛剛已經看到真正的影響了。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-04-21T11:58:53.967000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-04-21T11:58:57.631000+08:00 |
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那是一個項目嘛，有沒有其他相關受到影響的部分？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-04-21T11:58:57.731000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-04-21T11:58:58.632000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
我覺得要讓國人知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-04-21T11:58:59.572000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-04-21T11:59:05.478000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
包括國際賽事，除了這項是日程已到，其他的是不敢下去籌備。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.96 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-04-21T11:59:05.478000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-04-21T11:59:07.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
對，因為預算沒有過，誰告訴你預算一定過？ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-04-21T11:59:07.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-04-21T11:59:08.261000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
對，所以沒有辦法籌備。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-04-21T11:59:08.261000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-04-21T11:59:28.731000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
你現在就沒辦法籌備嘛，哪怕7月份要辦的、10月份要辦的，你不能開始籌備，等到預算通過，延宕了這麼久，籌備也會「料小」（不牢靠）啊，你也只能簡化處理，這是一個部分，其實還有很多例子，運動部次長先請回，今天李洋部長請假嘛！是。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.868 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-04-21T11:59:31.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-04-21T11:59:35.835000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
防災救災的部分，剛才院長有提到的，防災救災預算受到的影響是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.862 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
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最重要就是汛期來了，很多防水、治水的預算，雖然本來有一些可以使用，但是整個年度的發包，大家還是不知道會被刪掉多少。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T11:59:47.556000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:00:01.145000+08:00 |
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我們歸仁最有名的易淹水區域有一條鹽水溪，有個堤岸，我感謝水利署有編列進去，那個堤岸編在今年度要做，但現在都不敢發包、不敢弄了。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T12:00:01.145000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:00:02.145000+08:00 |
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不敢發包。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T12:00:01.365000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:00:04.747000+08:00 |
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就因為預算卡住了，卡住後到現在，我這邊為什麼要列汛期的，你知道嗎？ |
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王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T12:00:08.509000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:00:16.571000+08:00 |
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因為到5月、6月進入汛期就不能做了，應該去年就要通過…… |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T12:00:16.571000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:00:18.451000+08:00 |
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對，不是來不及，是根本連施工都沒有辦法。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T12:00:18.951000+08:00 |
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對，沒有辦法施工，因為汛期沒有辦法施工，本來趕在5月汛期來臨前該做的堤岸、該堆的沙包、該做的水路要做處理，但是預算沒有過。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T12:00:27.873000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:00:34.015000+08:00 |
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好啦，現在4月份藍白大發慈悲要讓你審查了，就算5月份通過，進入汛期後，發包了也不能做啊！ |
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王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-04-21T12:00:34.435000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-04-21T12:00:41.436000+08:00 |
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然後這一年的颱風，6、7、8、9月靠運氣嗎？ |
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0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-04-21T12:00:41.436000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-04-21T12:00:42.136000+08:00 |
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所以這個的影響其實很大耶！ |
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0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-04-21T12:00:43.816000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:00:58.341000+08:00 |
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委員非常的清楚，我們要體諒所有公務人員，雖然我們有些去年有的、今年也有的預算還是有相當比例可以執行，但是沒有人知道今年這筆預算會被刪除掉多少，所以大家都礙手礙腳（綁手綁腳）。 |
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王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-04-21T12:00:58.341000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:01:06.484000+08:00 |
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就像那個718億，說不審查、抽出來讓你先花，那個占總預算2%而已，但誰敢花啊？不敢。 |
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0.844 |
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王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-04-21T12:01:07.422000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:01:08.583000+08:00 |
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誰知道審查的時候會不會被砍掉？對。 |
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0.8 |
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王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-04-21T12:01:09.203000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:01:12.565000+08:00 |
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後來黨團協商的時候說保證不砍，那已經是多少個月以後了！ |
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0.88 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T12:01:13.145000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:01:36.557000+08:00 |
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所以這種不正常的杯葛方式導致的影響，我今天只是舉這幾個例子，包括福利設施、國防、治水防洪、新興部會等，那個影響的不是政治上的衝擊，不是當官、當部長的人受衝擊，是扎扎實實每個面向的人民在受害！ |
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王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T12:01:38.598000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:02:06.085000+08:00 |
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然後我們現在要審查了，我不知道能不能亡羊補牢，因為有的來不及、有的來得及，我希望立法院各委員會就不要太多的政治攻防，該監督的監督，但是不要太多的政治攻防，否則一直延宕，以治水防洪來講，在現在這種極端氣候下，臺灣都是潛在的受災區；以國防來講，沒有簽約，誰告訴你過幾個月後人家還要賣你，這個影響都很大的。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T12:02:08.245000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:02:13.327000+08:00 |
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院長，今年颱風季節、汛期要到了，院裡面有做什麼準備？ |
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0.773 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-04-21T12:02:13.327000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-04-21T12:02:15.987000+08:00 |
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現在預算都還沒有完全通過。 |
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0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-04-21T12:02:15.987000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:02:35.569000+08:00 |
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我們還是把原來系統性治水的過程、已經安排計畫的、去年延續到現在的持續地進行下去，但是今年新增4年1,000億的縣市管河川改善工程，今年有六十多億…… |
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0.905 |
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龔部長明鑫 |
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2026-04-21T12:02:35.569000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:02:38.732000+08:00 |
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那是縣市管的，中央管的三十幾億，總共100億都沒有辦法使用。 |
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0.708 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T12:02:39.672000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:02:47.558000+08:00 |
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龔部長上來了，你腦海中現在有沒有哪一個例子是本來要做的，因為預算審查延宕而只好暫緩的？ |
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0.625 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T12:02:48.975000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:02:58.062000+08:00 |
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本來今年初發包可以做固定堤岸或防洪治水的設施，現在只好等汛期過了、年底再來做的，有沒有這樣的個案？ |
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| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
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2026-04-21T12:02:59.583000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:03:14.940000+08:00 |
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原來都已經跟地方政府談好，有幾條溪水，就是縣市管河川的部分，包括中南部地區、包括雲林以南的，事實上都有談好了，但是因為預算沒有辦法審議，所以就沒有辦法去施作了…… |
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王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T12:03:15.480000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:03:16.560000+08:00 |
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你能不能講幾條？ |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-04-21T12:03:16.560000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:03:18.821000+08:00 |
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我不是要給你考試，講不講得出來有哪幾條溪？ |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
0.579 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
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2026-04-21T12:03:18.821000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:03:20.001000+08:00 |
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我可能要…… |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T12:03:20.181000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:03:20.621000+08:00 |
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大概就好了。 |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T12:03:22.682000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:03:35.905000+08:00 |
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你要具體啊，民眾才會感受到自己家附近那條溪本來中央跟地方政府講好了，預算到位就要做了，現在為什麼還沒有做，就是因為預算延宕，所以沒有辦法做，你有沒有哪條溪可以舉例？ |
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0.627 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T12:03:37.045000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:03:39.446000+08:00 |
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具體化，民眾的感受會比較直接啦！ |
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0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-04-21T12:03:40.770000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-04-21T12:03:43.411000+08:00 |
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水利署可以把資料完整的送出來。 |
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0.643 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-04-21T12:03:43.651000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:03:48.994000+08:00 |
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我覺得可以公布，你就公布，本來中央跟地方協力，中央跟地方其實沒有什麼黨派之分，大家一起建設地方。 |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0.698 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-04-21T12:03:49.154000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
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2026-04-21T12:03:51.035000+08:00 |
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我記得宜蘭也有，南部都有，南投、雲林哪裡都有。 |
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0.579 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-04-21T12:03:52.456000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:04:07.142000+08:00 |
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就是中南部這些溪流，原來都已經協調好預算到位就要做了，現在因為預算延宕只好延後，現在又遇到汛期不能做，一延就要延到9月、10以後，這個影響其實……有時候我很難想像有什麼萬一的話，這影響很大耶！ |
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王委員定宇 |
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2026-04-21T12:04:07.902000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:04:20.026000+08:00 |
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所以我建議經濟部可以把這個部分整理出來，民眾要了解，否則接下來9月份又要審下個年度的預算了，會不會再發生這樣的事情沒有人知道，希望不會啦，但沒有人知道。 |
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| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2026-04-21T12:04:20.786000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:04:28.211000+08:00 |
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我希望剛剛委員第一個拿出來的那張表格只此一次，不要有下次，我們還是正常的進行。 |
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| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2026-04-21T12:04:29.392000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:04:34.438000+08:00 |
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針對今年的總預算，我在上禮拜院的會也已經拜託所有部會首長做好充分的準備來說明。 |
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0.892 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2026-04-21T12:04:35.058000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T12:04:57.838000+08:00 |
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我的最後半分鐘，剛好經濟部長也在這邊，我最後這半分鐘要問的跟剛才范雲委員關心的一樣，我們2026年度的預算是8個月前開始編列的，那時候沒有辦法預測到現在波斯灣的情形，穩定油價、電價、水費等這些叫做物價之母，很多人說發現金就好，其實穩定物價、油價帶給人民所省下來的會更多。 |
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0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2026-04-21T12:04:58.698000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2026-04-21T12:05:01+08:00 |
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我們現在的預算準備是否足夠？ |
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0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2026-04-21T12:05:01.601000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
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2026-04-21T12:05:01.981000+08:00 |
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現在這個預算。 |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2026-04-21T12:05:03.042000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2026-04-21T12:05:09.527000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].text |
報告委員，我們這一次包括台電或中油吸收的部分，我們大概有準備了一些資料，已經提供給主計總處做參考，那到底要怎麼樣來協助這個…… |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
0.526 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2026-04-21T12:05:09.527000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2026-04-21T12:05:15.279500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].text |
夠不夠，你認為夠不夠？不夠。 |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2026-04-21T12:05:15.279500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2026-04-21T12:05:21.032000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
我覺得不夠耶……不夠。 |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[128].start |
2026-04-21T12:05:21.032000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[128].end |
2026-04-21T12:05:26.784500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].text |
因為那時候沒有這個局勢，這是新局勢，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[128].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[129].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[129].start |
2026-04-21T12:05:26.784500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[129].end |
2026-04-21T12:05:32.537000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].text |
如果不夠的話，我們現在通過之後，接下來該追加或者怎麼樣處理其實要思考，因為物價影響經濟民生很大，好不好？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[129].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[130].start |
2026-04-21T12:05:32.537000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[130].end |
2026-04-21T12:05:32.557000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].text |
好，謝謝院長，謝謝部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[130].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[131].start |
2026-04-21T12:05:33.057000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[131].end |
2026-04-21T12:05:34.199857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[131].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[132].start |
2026-04-21T12:05:34.499857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[132].end |
2026-04-21T12:05:37.357000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].text |
謝謝王委員，謝謝卓院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[132].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[133].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[133].start |
2026-04-21T12:05:37.657000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[133].end |
2026-04-21T12:05:40.799857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].text |
下一位請林德福委員質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[133].quality |
0 |