iVOD / 168635

Field Value
IVOD_ID 168635
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168635
日期 2026-04-20
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-23-8
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期交通委員會第8次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 8
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 23
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 交通委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期交通委員會第8次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-04-20T10:22:54+08:00
結束時間 2026-04-20T10:33:02+08:00
影片長度 00:10:08
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
支援功能[1] gazette
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委員名稱 陳清龍
委員發言時間 10:22:54 - 10:33:02
會議時間 2026-04-20T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第8次全體委員會議(事由:邀請國家運輸安全調查委員會主任委員林信得列席報告業務概況,並備質詢。)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 我們在我們運燃會的業務報告我們看到我們有一個建議就是希望我們能夠建立一個道路安全審核的機制叫做RSA
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 從你的報告當中,你從調查我們台21線的柴茶車貨車的一個事故等等發現我們還沒有建立道路安全的審核機制至此道路工程在規劃、設計、施工、管理、養護的過程當中
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 欠缺的考量交通安全的因素所以延伸了潛在的交通安全這是你報告所講的那從你報告這當中我想就這個機會請教我們主委以我們的專業我現在來請教
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 我們淡江大橋應該下個月可能要通車但是從這幾天的訊息包括我們交通部長也去現場實地的考察發覺到這個機車道的設計它是符合一公路局的一個答案
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 它是符合公路設計規範但是實際上我們的民眾包括交通部長實際去看的時候都覺得有這樣的安全的屹立那在這樣的一個淡江大橋這樣的案例當中依我們運安會
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 你的見解如何 主任你們的見解如何我們的一個道路設計規範的符合跟實際的安全能不能畫上梗號那以丹江大橋為例 你們的建議為
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 請你們以你們的專業來建議不要事後做調查事後去做有事故的調查我們目前已經上橋的民眾包括我們交通部長都覺得這個機車道橋面過窄以後整個通車之後應該安全的一例大家已經都
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 一起看到的那是不是我們雲南會不要做事後的調查我們是不是在這邊可以根據你們報告的建議做一些安全上給交通部、給公務局做一些建議
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 我們可以去了解我所知道可以去了解有關RSA就是所謂道路安全檢查制度這個案子交通部在請議員所在113年到114年他有辦理一個研究計畫
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 主委我是想透過你們的專業當然我知道運安會都是在做事後的調查那我現在想藉由這一次質詢的機會淡江大橋我們恐怕成為我們機車族就一個安全很大的屹立那運安會
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 你真的只要在未來真的有事故發生才要去調查目前我想以你們的專業能不能給公務局做一些建議藉由這樣的執行你不願意
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 不是 我們會去了解 但是因為我們是調查機構我知道啊 一定要有事故發生我們有裁判求演的關係 我們會避免變成一個太上的監理機關但是我們會去了解我了解你們 也有關係
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 但是我覺得既然公務局對外宣稱要找外部的專家學者來做一些看到外部專家學者我們依然會 我們也是專業啊 必要也可以提出我們的專業的一點建議嘛
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 這是我們期待我們希望淡江大橋開通後是一個安全的道路安全的橋樑機車族行駛在淡江大橋上也是安全的所以能夠提供建議公路局也提出這樣的一個願意邀請
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 這樣的專家學者外部的意見我想我們依然會適時的提供我們的專業建議是必要的這一點主委你認同嗎
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 我們如果去了解之後認為有一些好的建議我們當然會不要等到那個事故發生後才調查啦好不好我們希望有專業意見可以提供給公路局好那下一頁我在這邊啊我們在南投307的油原車這個墜谷事故的調查的進度目前怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 主委有調查嗎有有有調查那調查到目前的進度怎麼樣我們今年的九月會發布事實資料報告
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 調查報告?調查報告今年九月會有四十次調查報告要到今年九月明年的九月會發布最終的調查報告明年九月明年九月現在今年的三月發生一個事故要到明年九月才能會有一個調查報告那我們運安會真的這樣的一個
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 事件的一個調查的時間我希望我們要檢討一下那其實除了307這種事故調查其實我們去年在宜蘭的綠色博覽會也有遊園車的事故那這個過程當中就我了解因為我們運安會針對重大運輸事故的調查範圍其實都沒有包括了
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 沒有包括但是我肯定雲南會願意針對我們山林溪的這個事件那我請教宜蘭綠博發生的電動油油原車這個事件我們有調查嗎我們有調查嗎
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 這個案件就沒調查對不對因為沒有受到社會矚目嘛一樣一死一傷就沒有進行調查所以我在這邊本席要建議我們是不是來檢討重大運輸事故範圍的一個調查我們依然會依照我們運輸事故調查法
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 針對我們這個第四點的第三款是不是能夠來做一些重新的定義我們現在看到的包括熱氣球包括機品的接駁車包括我們的觀光管閥等等這些都不在 照理說都不在我們的一個重大運輸事故的調查範圍之內但是它卻牽涉到
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 我們國人的一個安全這樣的一個過程那是不是我們來修訂讓這個定義放寬能夠讓運安會能夠來透過事故的一個調查給這個相關主管單位能夠來做一個安全的一個改進主委你認為呢
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 剛剛委員提到如果是熱氣球是我們調查的範圍沒有錯熱氣球已經調查的範圍那其他的如果有一些觀光管農啊我們就那個在那個台南啊這個很多啊對不對如果類似的我們會在我們年度開研討會的時候我們會收集資料會請相關主管機關來研究看怎麼樣是能夠大家一起協助對我們覺得不要有這樣暈暗的漏洞啦
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transcript.whisperx[24].text 就像我剛剛舉的一個例子嘛307的社會主謀案件你主動調查依然力薄的 一起一場沒有形成一個疑問的重大案件你就不調查我希望在法規上不要針對我們國人的安全有漏洞這樣好不好
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 最後我在這邊還是建議因為你的調查報告裡面針對針對我們的電動小客車大都會電動公車這樣的一個自然的一個部分我想時間的關係我也請我們運安會應該要掌握未來我們的電動車不管是
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 這個使用的量還有我們的電動公車等等這個部分未來就是運輸安全一個重要的一個考量的一個重點所以我在這邊也要請運安會為以籌謀我們要事先做過我們事故的調查然後建立起一個建議的機制這樣好不好
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transcript.whisperx[27].text 我們會盡量收集出來就跟著委員會建議我們會在研討會的案例裡面去把它函掛進來好 謝謝主委 謝謝
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transcript.gazette[1].text 請運安會林主委。
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transcript.gazette[2].text 來,請林主委。
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transcript.gazette[3].text 委員好。
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transcript.gazette[4].text 林主委好。
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transcript.gazette[5].text 我們看到運安會的業務報告,我們有一個建議,就是希望能夠建立道路安全審核的機制──RSA,從你的報告當中,提到調查台21線的採茶貨車等事故,發現我國還沒有建立道路安全的審核機制,致使道路工程在規劃、設計、施工、管理、養護的過程當中欠缺考量交通安全因素之情形,所以衍生潛在的交通安全疑慮,這是你報告所講的。
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transcript.gazette[6].text 從你的報告當中,我想就這個機會請教主委,依我們的專業,淡江大橋應該下個月要通車,但是從這幾天的訊息,包括我們交通部長也去現場實地考察,發覺到有關機車道的設計,依公路局的回答,它是符合公路設計規範,但是實際上,我們的民眾包括交通部長實際去看的時候都覺得有安全的疑慮,在淡江大橋這樣的案例當中,不知運安會的見解如何?
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transcript.gazette[7].text 請問主委你們的見解如何?
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transcript.gazette[8].text 我們的道路設計規範與實際的安全能不能畫上等號?
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transcript.gazette[9].text 以淡江大橋為例,你們的建議為何?
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transcript.gazette[10].text 請依你們的專業來建議,不要事後再去做有事故的調查。
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transcript.gazette[11].text 目前已經上橋的民眾,包括交通部長,都覺得機車道橋面過窄,以後整個通車之後,安全的疑慮大家應該都已經一起看到了。
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transcript.gazette[12].text 運安會不要做事後的調查,是不是在這邊可以根據你們報告提供一些安全上的建議給交通部和公路局參考?
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transcript.gazette[13].start 2026-04-20T10:25:58.052000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[13].text 我們可以去了解,據我所知,有關RSA,也就是所謂道路安全檢查制度這個案子,交通部運研所在113年到114年有辦理一個研究計畫,現在……
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transcript.gazette[14].text 主委,我是想透過你們的專業,當然我知道運安會都是在做事後的調查,但我現在想藉由這次質詢的機會提出淡江大橋恐怕會成為機車族安全很大的疑慮,運安會真的只要在未來有事故發生時才要去調查嗎?
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transcript.gazette[15].start 2026-04-20T10:26:47.085000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[15].text 依你們的專業,目前能不能給公路局一些建議?
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transcript.gazette[16].speaker 陳委員清龍
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transcript.gazette[16].text 藉由這樣的質詢……你不願意?
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transcript.gazette[17].speaker 林主任委員信得
transcript.gazette[17].start 2026-04-20T10:26:57.529000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[17].end 2026-04-20T10:27:01.031000+08:00
transcript.gazette[17].text 不是,我們會去了解,但因為我們是調查機關……
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transcript.gazette[18].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[18].start 2026-04-20T10:27:01.031000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[18].text 我知道,一定要有事故發生才……
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transcript.gazette[19].speaker 林主任委員信得
transcript.gazette[19].start 2026-04-20T10:27:04.293000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[19].end 2026-04-20T10:27:09.976000+08:00
transcript.gazette[19].text 這是裁判、球員的關係,我們要避免變成一個太上的監理機關,但是我們會去了解。
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transcript.gazette[20].start 2026-04-20T10:27:09.996000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[20].text 我了解你們也有關係,我覺得既然公路局都宣稱要找外部的專家學者來做一些探討,所謂的外部專家學者,運安會也是專業單位,必要時也可以提出專業的建議嘛!
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transcript.gazette[21].start 2026-04-20T10:27:34.075000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[21].text 我們希望淡江大橋開通後,是一條安全的道路、安全的橋梁,機車族行駛在淡江大橋上也是安全的。
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transcript.gazette[22].start 2026-04-20T10:27:47.049000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[22].text 主委,是不是能夠提供建議?
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transcript.gazette[23].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[23].start 2026-04-20T10:27:48.611000+08:00
transcript.gazette[23].guessed
transcript.gazette[23].end 2026-04-20T10:28:03.128000+08:00
transcript.gazette[23].text 公路局也說願意邀請外部專家學者提供意見,我想運安會適時提供專業建議是必要的,這一點主委你認同嗎?
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transcript.gazette[24].start 2026-04-20T10:28:04.225000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[24].end 2026-04-20T10:28:08.289000+08:00
transcript.gazette[24].text 如果我們去了解之後,認為有一些好的建議,我們當然會提,如同剛剛我講的……
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transcript.gazette[25].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[25].start 2026-04-20T10:28:08.289000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[25].end 2026-04-20T10:28:14.414000+08:00
transcript.gazette[25].text 不要等到事故發生後才調查好不好……不會……
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transcript.gazette[26].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[26].start 2026-04-20T10:28:14.934000+08:00
transcript.gazette[26].guessed
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transcript.gazette[26].text 我們希望有專業意見可以提供給公路局。
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transcript.gazette[27].start 2026-04-20T10:28:22.421000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[27].end 2026-04-20T10:28:30.488000+08:00
transcript.gazette[27].text 另外,關於南投杉林溪遊園車墜谷事故調查的進度目前怎麼樣?
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transcript.gazette[28].start 2026-04-20T10:28:32.049000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[28].end 2026-04-20T10:28:35.811000+08:00
transcript.gazette[28].text 主委,有調查嗎?
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transcript.gazette[29].speaker 林主任委員信得
transcript.gazette[29].start 2026-04-20T10:28:35.811000+08:00
transcript.gazette[29].guessed
transcript.gazette[29].end 2026-04-20T10:28:36.632000+08:00
transcript.gazette[29].text 有,有調查。
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transcript.gazette[30].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[30].start 2026-04-20T10:28:37.792000+08:00
transcript.gazette[30].guessed
transcript.gazette[30].end 2026-04-20T10:28:38.513000+08:00
transcript.gazette[30].text 目前的進度怎麼樣?
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transcript.gazette[31].speaker 林主任委員信得
transcript.gazette[31].start 2026-04-20T10:28:38.513000+08:00
transcript.gazette[31].guessed
transcript.gazette[31].end 2026-04-20T10:28:40.514000+08:00
transcript.gazette[31].text 我們今年9月會發布事實資料報告……
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transcript.gazette[32].start 2026-04-20T10:28:40.514000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[32].text 9月才發布?
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transcript.gazette[33].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[33].start 2026-04-20T10:28:45.794000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[33].text 調查報告……
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transcript.gazette[34].start 2026-04-20T10:28:46.235000+08:00
transcript.gazette[34].guessed
transcript.gazette[34].end 2026-04-20T10:28:47.877000+08:00
transcript.gazette[34].text 今年9月會有事實資料的報告……
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transcript.gazette[35].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[35].start 2026-04-20T10:28:47.897000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[35].text 要到今年9月?
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transcript.gazette[36].start 2026-04-20T10:28:49.138000+08:00
transcript.gazette[36].guessed
transcript.gazette[36].end 2026-04-20T10:28:51.240000+08:00
transcript.gazette[36].text 明年9月會發布最終的調查報告。
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transcript.gazette[37].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[37].start 2026-04-20T10:28:51.380000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[37].text 明年9月?對。
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transcript.gazette[38].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[38].start 2026-04-20T10:28:53.282000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[38].text 明年9月?
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transcript.gazette[39].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[39].start 2026-04-20T10:28:56.345000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[39].end 2026-04-20T10:29:01.891000+08:00
transcript.gazette[39].text 今年3月發生事故,要到明年9月才會有調查報告!
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transcript.gazette[40].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[40].start 2026-04-20T10:29:02.011000+08:00
transcript.gazette[40].guessed
transcript.gazette[40].end 2026-04-20T10:29:12.339000+08:00
transcript.gazette[40].text 運安會對於事件調查的時間,我希望要檢討一下。
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transcript.gazette[41].start 2026-04-20T10:29:13.860000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[41].text 除了杉林溪的事故調查,其實去年在宜蘭綠色博覽會也有發生遊園車的事故,就我了解,其實這並沒有包括在運安會針對重大運輸事故進行調查的範圍內,但是我肯定運安會願意針對杉林溪事件進行調查,請教宜蘭綠博發生的電動遊園車事故你們有調查嗎?
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transcript.gazette[42].start 2026-04-20T10:29:53.993000+08:00
transcript.gazette[42].guessed
transcript.gazette[42].end 2026-04-20T10:29:56.816000+08:00
transcript.gazette[42].text 這個案件就沒有調查了,對不對?
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transcript.gazette[43].speaker 日組長智揖
transcript.gazette[43].start 2026-04-20T10:29:56.816000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[43].text 報告委員,沒有。
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transcript.gazette[44].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[44].start 2026-04-20T10:29:56.816000+08:00
transcript.gazette[44].guessed
transcript.gazette[44].end 2026-04-20T10:29:59.238000+08:00
transcript.gazette[44].text 因為沒有受到社會矚目嘛!
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transcript.gazette[45].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[45].start 2026-04-20T10:30:00.800000+08:00
transcript.gazette[45].guessed
transcript.gazette[45].end 2026-04-20T10:30:07.667000+08:00
transcript.gazette[45].text 同樣是一死一傷卻沒有進行調查,所以本席建議我們是不是來檢討重大運輸事故調查的範圍?
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transcript.gazette[46].start 2026-04-20T10:30:09.468000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[46].end 2026-04-20T10:30:25.400000+08:00
transcript.gazette[46].text 運安會依照運輸事故調查法第四點第三款,是不是能夠重新定義?
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transcript.gazette[47].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[47].start 2026-04-20T10:30:25.400000+08:00
transcript.gazette[47].guessed
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transcript.gazette[47].text 我們現在看到的包括熱氣球、機坪接駁車、觀光管筏等等,這些都不在重大運輸事故的調查範圍之內,但是它卻牽涉到國人的安全。
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transcript.gazette[48].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[48].start 2026-04-20T10:30:50.712000+08:00
transcript.gazette[48].guessed
transcript.gazette[48].end 2026-04-20T10:31:11.927000+08:00
transcript.gazette[48].text 這部分是不是可以修訂,讓定義放寬,讓運安會能夠進行事故的調查,同時也讓相關主管單位能夠來做安全的改進?
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transcript.gazette[49].start 2026-04-20T10:31:11.927000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[49].text 主委,你認為呢?
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transcript.gazette[50].speaker 林主任委員信得
transcript.gazette[50].start 2026-04-20T10:31:15.609000+08:00
transcript.gazette[50].guessed
transcript.gazette[50].end 2026-04-20T10:31:20.012000+08:00
transcript.gazette[50].text 剛剛委員提到的熱氣球,其實是在我們調查的範圍內沒有錯。
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transcript.gazette[51].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[51].start 2026-04-20T10:31:20.012000+08:00
transcript.gazette[51].guessed
transcript.gazette[51].end 2026-04-20T10:31:21.313000+08:00
transcript.gazette[51].text 熱氣球已經是你們的調查範圍?
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transcript.gazette[52].speaker 林主任委員信得
transcript.gazette[52].start 2026-04-20T10:31:21.573000+08:00
transcript.gazette[52].guessed
transcript.gazette[52].end 2026-04-20T10:31:23.254000+08:00
transcript.gazette[52].text 對,其他的如果有一些……
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transcript.gazette[53].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[53].start 2026-04-20T10:31:24.255000+08:00
transcript.gazette[53].guessed
transcript.gazette[53].end 2026-04-20T10:31:29.799000+08:00
transcript.gazette[53].text 像觀光管筏,臺南有很多,對不對?
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transcript.gazette[54].speaker 林主任委員信得
transcript.gazette[54].start 2026-04-20T10:31:29.799000+08:00
transcript.gazette[54].guessed
transcript.gazette[54].end 2026-04-20T10:31:39.305000+08:00
transcript.gazette[54].text 如果有類似的,我們在年度開研討會的時候會蒐集資料請相關主管機關來研究,看看怎麼樣能夠大家一起協助……
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transcript.gazette[55].speaker 陳委員清龍
transcript.gazette[55].start 2026-04-20T10:31:40.066000+08:00
transcript.gazette[55].guessed
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transcript.gazette[55].text 我們希望不要有這樣的運安漏洞,就像我剛剛舉的例子,杉林溪的社會矚目案件你們主動調查,但是宜蘭綠博一死一傷,因為沒有形成輿論的重大案件,所以你們就不調查,我希望在法規上不要讓國人的安全有漏洞,這樣好不好?
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transcript.gazette[56].start 2026-04-20T10:32:04.092000+08:00
transcript.gazette[56].guessed
transcript.gazette[56].end 2026-04-20T10:32:43.750000+08:00
transcript.gazette[56].text 最後,你們的調查報告裡面有提到電動小客車、大都會電動公車自燃的部分,因為時間的關係,我也請運安會應該要掌握未來電動車使用的量以及電動公車等等,這個部分是未來運輸安全考量的重點,所以我在這邊也要請運安會未雨綢繆。
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transcript.gazette[57].speaker 陳委員清龍
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transcript.gazette[57].text 除了做好事故的調查,同時也要建立起一個建議的機制,這樣好不好?
transcript.gazette[57].quality 0.75
transcript.gazette[58].speaker 林主任委員信得
transcript.gazette[58].start 2026-04-20T10:32:53.457000+08:00
transcript.gazette[58].guessed
transcript.gazette[58].end 2026-04-20T10:32:59.434000+08:00
transcript.gazette[58].text 好,我們會儘量蒐集資料,按照委員的建議,我們會在研討會的案例裡面把它含括進來。
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transcript.gazette[59].text 好,謝謝主委。
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transcript.gazette[60].speaker 林主任委員信得
transcript.gazette[60].start 2026-04-20T10:32:59.735000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[60].text 謝謝委員。
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transcript.gazette[61].speaker 主席
transcript.gazette[61].start 2026-04-20T10:33:00.235000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[61].end 2026-04-20T10:33:03.092143+08:00
transcript.gazette[61].text 謝謝陳清龍委員的質詢。
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transcript.gazette[62].speaker 主席
transcript.gazette[62].start 2026-04-20T10:33:03.392143+08:00
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transcript.gazette[62].end 2026-04-20T10:33:06.535000+08:00
transcript.gazette[62].text 接下來請陳雪生委員發言。
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