| IVOD_ID |
168591 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168591 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-26-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-15T13:04:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-15T13:15:21+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:23 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3ec77822e2e6eae3cfe714b1dd1ac8248ea785098ebfecd577f1ea19c72f00148773759d3bad123a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:04:58 - 13:15:21 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請衛生福利部部長、行政院經貿談判辦公室、經濟部、農業部、教育部就「美國貿易代表署發布《2026年各國貿易評估報告》（2026NTE）提及技術性貿易壁壘或食品安全檢驗與動植物防疫檢疫SPS）壁壘之豬肉、牛肉與牛肉產品、β促進劑的最大殘留容許量等各項食農相關產品及技術之要求，我國所承諾之措施、移除產品禁令或取消輸入口岸檢疫程序等，並特就其中開放切片馬鈴薯帶芽（或腐爛或發黴）仍能整批進口與其敦促撤銷基改食品進校園，對我國食品安全造成之衝擊與因應作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
邀請衛生福利部、農業部、行政院消費者保護處就「寵物用藥新制上路在即，犬貓及非經濟動物急重症醫療銜接、藥品流向管理、飼主取得可近性與消費權益保障之整體配套」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
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謝謝主席 以及各位先進有請衛福部的石部長以及農業部的杜署長兩位總管好 賴委員好兩位總管好 辛苦了 |
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我們看啦 因為今天討論這個Art之後的一個食安的相關的問題那現在看到這個剛才有委員關心 委員關心這個問題就是到美國這個根據我們的食安法第35條規定開放新的肉品以及高風險要擦場 |
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35條固定很清楚對不對那現在要開放美牛的內臟裡面心啊肝啊腎啊等等都是高風險部內請問你們規劃要擦場有沒有 |
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那個跟委員說明我們去年已經到美國查過系統性查核這個部分你為什麼要查這個啊 這個才我們奧約本才簽的啊奧約本才簽的啊另外跟委員說明的這是歸類的問題是 |
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就是說我們在過去BS1的時候呢是把它認定在叫做風險可供國家所以它有部分的這個產品是屬於高風險沒有沒有我現在跟你講12法35條規定這麼清楚 |
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那查場這個ART現在說要簽當然現在還沒有送到立法院但是你們應該要趕快就要去查那個到現在為止沒有你是講去年都已經跟你講是ART簽了以後現在就去簽了只是因為這個臨時美國的狀況所以暫時沒有送進來立法院否則已經簽了開了記者會了這時候你們要去查啊對不對根據史安法三十條 |
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好那你生肖 後續的話我們都會那你承諾生肖完畢多久以內可以去擦傷 |
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現在跟委員提一下因為對於美國相關的進口來台灣本來就已經在系統性查核下已經同意他們的廠的規格符合制度上面我們最近很少查不是嗎去年都還要查查幾次去年就特別有去查去年是特別有去一次一次 前年內前年內前年有沒有我問你前年有沒有 |
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我們一直以來都是沒有啊你們查的很少啊這個這個這個現在我們一直開放不要忘了2021年找資料還是我問的那時候市長就叫石崇良石部長那個是什麼 |
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那時候次長叫石崇良部長叫陳時中陳時中說2021年要開放30個月的月齡以上的美牛要進來以前是小牛現在是大牛30個月以上的陳時中就說這個新制上路簽一定要去美國查上他公開講的2020年Google一下然後次長叫石崇良 |
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對 更遲長就是送糧 也是跟他說戰鬥就是要這樣去啊結果我查了一下你們都沒去啊你們中國去的就是比較有資料的是2014年到2018年查得比較清後面幾乎沒有啊 去年查一次去年查什麼 去年算什麼 |
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報告委員我們去年的三月份我們特地去做美牛肉茶場那上次呢差幾家這次去的是我們差一家而已啊應該不止吧去的幾家我覺得應該是確定一下是幾家我們去年的時候是去去幾天去幾天 |
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總共差不多約一個禮拜一個禮拜是一個月 差很多累我們同仁們有去跟房間署一起前去查場就去年的三月份已經這個啊這個啊 不懂啊 |
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這個我問同樣的問題 上一次你問你的時候是社長 現在是部長 光路主路大了齁但是你不要一直倒退路啊 這個東西人家說啊就千萬大家多少的民主在電視上最擔心的是什麼 我們的食安防線全面撤手 |
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287.729 |
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這裡面我就跟你講這個到現在為止你沒有規劃你今天承諾只要ART生效多久以內可以去查詳你告訴我我們一定會按照這個食安法的規定來進行食安法規定規定這樣好不好你公開承諾就是只要ART正式簽訂立法院一通過之後半年內去查詳可以嗎 |
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312.822 |
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331.936 |
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或者這樣的一個教授條件我們應該是對 就是說沒有 你要新開放的新開放的 新肝腎啊 新肝腎啊這高風險不會啊 很狡辣啊要有他要進來的我們才會查對啊 要進來的啊當然啊 當然啊 我現在跟你講因為有新開放的啊現在有新肝腎內臟呢新的我們才會查 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
339.341 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
352.329 |
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不是啦 新的啦 新的場啦如果你之前就已經是舊的那個就不需要啦為什麼不需要 它以前有開放的部位啊新開放的部位要去啊 對不對 |
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384.04 |
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半年可以吧正式簽訂也要半年內可以吧其實每年都有固定一次的要查訪那大概都在年中每年至少一次去查幾家就是他核可的五到六家你們把報告給我因為我查資料都查不到我查資料說2018年以後你們都沒有去查沒有從民國九十幾年到 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
385.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
389.241 |
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我跟委員報告好了謝謝不講了謝謝不講了來來我現在關心來來來部長還有跟那個農業部有關係的前年越南的華國麵包出問題今年的清明節高雄嫩餅嫩餅出問題上個禮拜新北便當上吐下吸 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
403.146 |
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415.814 |
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人家查出來一個農業部放水原來說規定強制要吸水彈結果呢你們說鼓勵強制改成鼓勵農業部來講一下為什麼這樣來講一下農業部為什麼這麼大的轉變為什麼原來要強制為什麼變成鼓勵咧你不知道怎麼回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
433.226 |
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457.848 |
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委員好 那個今天我代表薰姆斯出席但因為蛋的部分不是我這邊管理的那據我所知如果不是你管你就不要上來的是不是好 謝謝好啦 就沒有 部長啊我重點是部長啊 請問你不是 這個署長你不能回答就是 部長 那我們部長好不好 這個部長你不要去清楚喔這個農業部這樣的改編有沒有知會你 有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
459.008 |
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477.935 |
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有沒有告訴你說我們原來是強制現在變成鼓勵有沒有告訴你我們是一直是用鼓勵沒有啊各做各的啊沒有跟你們講啊現在變成是你要守爛攤子喔市部長因為現在走人死要數這裡了 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
479.739 |
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508.862 |
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在你這裡的食藥署這裡的OK現在責任在你這裡的所以這源頭管理就變成非常非常的重要這個現在來看現在來看我們這個根據實際有點舊了但是2021年也是better than nothing了台灣的民眾37%用非全熟的蛋比如說Sunny side一邊是生的一邊是熟的 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
510.403 |
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537.124 |
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當然你的拳手比較沒問題啦一扒的人用生蛋日本怎麼做 日本用生食級的 像是SASHIMI這樣來觀控沙門市郡韓國用殺蟲劑抗生素來檢測台灣這裡變成人家日本韓國都越來越鹹我們現在越來越爽那個食藥署要怎麼樣補這一塊不知道你在說什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
538.627 |
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542.533 |
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食藥署今天來吧就是你就是來江蘇省 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
544.318 |
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567.72 |
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報告委員 針對整個洗選彈這個制度其實主要政策是在農業部的政策我知道 但是後面是你收尾啊我們對於整個政策上面能夠使用尤其這個大量使用的彈能夠用所謂的殺菌的彈 液彈來進行我覺得是最安全的那這部分未來會跟農業部這邊一起來合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
568.741 |
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585.711 |
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你們要跟樓部講一下啦拜託他們放這麼寬從原來強制變成一個鼓勵怎麼會這個樣子到底是什麼考慮啊是不是選舉考慮啊什麼考慮怎麼會這個樣子我們有三十幾趴的人吃不熟的蛋了這個其實風險非常高的對不對部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
591.635 |
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604.823 |
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我們會跟農業部再來討論看看這政策上怎麼去提高我們看到日本、韓國連加強加嚴格我們是放寬結果這個農業部從後這個衛福部十二署的負責人你要擦屁股變這樣子你不覺得委屈嗎我們會來強化這個兩部會之間的合作很委屈 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
619.394 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
621.259 |
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謝謝勒斯董委員的諮詢 接下來請洪夢凱委員諮詢 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-15T13:05:06.477000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:05:08.459000+08:00 |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進。 |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-15T13:05:08.459000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:05:14.685000+08:00 |
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有請衛福部石部長，以及農業部杜署長。 |
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1 |
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石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-04-15T13:05:17.528000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:05:17.628000+08:00 |
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賴委員好。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-15T13:05:17.648000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:05:18.149000+08:00 |
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兩位長官好，辛苦了。 |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-15T13:05:23.966000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:05:35.855000+08:00 |
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因為今天討論ART之後的食安相關問題，我看到剛才有委員關心，我也很關心這個問題。 |
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0.838 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-15T13:05:39.338000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:05:53.126000+08:00 |
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根據我們的食安法第三十五條規定，針對開放新的肉品以及高風險的查廠，第三十五條的規定很清楚，對不對？ |
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0.689 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-15T13:05:53.666000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-04-15T13:06:00.591000+08:00 |
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現在要開放美牛內臟的心、肝、腎等等，這些都是高風險部位。 |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-15T13:06:00.731000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:06:01.351000+08:00 |
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請問你們有沒有去國外查廠，有沒有？ |
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0.467 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-04-15T13:06:08.037000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-04-15T13:06:13.722000+08:00 |
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跟委員說明，我們去年已經到美國查過系統性查核，這個部分已經先…… |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.893 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-15T13:06:13.842000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:06:14.122000+08:00 |
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你沒有查這個啊！ |
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0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-04-15T13:06:14.142000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-04-15T13:06:14.423000+08:00 |
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這個2月份才簽的，2月ART才簽的啊！ |
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0.6 |
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石部長崇良 |
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2026-04-15T13:06:14.443000+08:00 |
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另外跟委員說明，這是歸類的問題，就是我們在過去BSE的時候，是把它認定在風險可控國家，所以它有部分的產品是屬於高風險…… |
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0.963 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-15T13:06:34.657000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:06:35.337000+08:00 |
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沒有、沒有，因為我時間很有限…… |
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0.417 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
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2026-04-15T13:06:35.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
1 |
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2026-04-15T13:06:36.337000+08:00 |
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但是現在已經重新規定，那是食安法第三十五條的規定…… |
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0.087 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-15T13:06:35.458000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:06:47.206000+08:00 |
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來，部長我跟你講，食安法第三十五條規定這麼清楚，ART現在說要簽，當然現在還沒送到立法院，你們就應該要趕快去查啊！ |
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0.765 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-15T13:06:47.486000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:06:51.229000+08:00 |
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但是到現在為止都沒有，你在講去年的，現在跟你講的是ART簽了以後，現在簽了，只是因為臨時美國有狀況，所以暫時沒有送進來立法院，否則已經簽了，開了記者會，這時候你們要去查，對不對？ |
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0.886 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-15T13:06:51.229000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:06:51.609000+08:00 |
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根據第三十五條…… |
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0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
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2026-04-15T13:06:51.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
1 |
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2026-04-15T13:07:14.628000+08:00 |
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因為還沒有生效。 |
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0.143 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
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2026-04-15T13:07:14.628000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-15T13:07:15.809000+08:00 |
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後續的話，我們都會來…… |
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0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-15T13:07:15.809000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:07:19.133000+08:00 |
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好，那你承諾，生效完畢多久以內可以去查廠？ |
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0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
姜署長至剛 |
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2026-04-15T13:07:22.228000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:07:34.918000+08:00 |
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現在跟委員提一下，因為對於美國相關進口來臺灣，本來就已經在系統性查核下同意在他們廠的規格符合……制度上面做對接…… |
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0.922 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-15T13:07:35.298000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:07:37.380000+08:00 |
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你們最近很少查，不是嗎？去年…… |
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0.917 |
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姜署長至剛 |
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2026-04-15T13:07:37.520000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:07:38.260000+08:00 |
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有，去年都還有查。 |
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0.429 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-15T13:07:38.561000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T13:07:38.881000+08:00 |
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查幾次？ |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-15T13:07:38.881000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
1 |
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2026-04-15T13:07:39.881000+08:00 |
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去年全年度查幾次？ |
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0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
姜署長至剛 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-15T13:07:39.881000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-15T13:07:40.881000+08:00 |
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去年就有特別去查。 |
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0.125 |
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賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-15T13:07:40.881000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
1 |
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2026-04-15T13:07:41.881000+08:00 |
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查幾次？ |
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0 |
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姜署長至剛 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-15T13:07:41.243000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-15T13:07:44.646000+08:00 |
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去年特別有去1次。1次！ |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-15T13:07:45.166000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-15T13:07:45.286000+08:00 |
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前年呢？ |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-15T13:07:45.806000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-15T13:07:46.207000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
前年有沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
姜署長至剛 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-15T13:07:46.207000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-15T13:07:47.207000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
系統上對接…… |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-15T13:07:46.507000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-15T13:07:47.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
不是，我問你前年有沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
姜署長至剛 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-15T13:07:50.730000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-15T13:07:51.630000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
我們一直以來都是以…… |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-15T13:07:51.830000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-15T13:07:52.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
沒有啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-15T13:07:52.631000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-15T13:07:53.891000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
你們查得很少啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-15T13:07:56.432000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-15T13:08:06.155000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
現在來講，我們一直開放，不要忘了2021年的時候還是我問的，可以去找資料，當時的次長叫石崇良，石部長，你認識吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-15T13:08:10.117000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-15T13:08:22.547000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
部長叫陳時中，陳時中有說2021年要開放30個月月齡以上的美牛要進來，以前是小牛，現在是大牛，30個月以上的。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-15T13:08:23.488000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-15T13:08:32.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
陳時中就說新制上路前一定要去美國查廠，他公開講的，在2021年，去google一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.853 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-15T13:08:32.996000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-15T13:08:38.601000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
然後次長叫石崇良，也是說，讚喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-15T13:08:38.601000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-15T13:08:38.901000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
就是要這樣去喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-15T13:08:40.061000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-15T13:08:41.642000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
結果我查了一下，你們都沒有去！ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-15T13:08:42.322000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-15T13:08:50.084000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
你們總共去的次數，比較有資料的是2014年跟2018年查得比較勤，後面幾乎沒有，去年查1次。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-15T13:08:50.724000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-15T13:08:52.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
去年查什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
姜署長至剛 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-15T13:08:52.977000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-15T13:08:58.444000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
報告委員，我們去年3月份，特別去做美牛的查廠，上次…… |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.81 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-15T13:08:59.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-15T13:08:59.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
查幾家？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
姜署長至剛 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:00.327000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-15T13:09:00.827000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
這次去的是…… |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:01.268000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-15T13:09:02.169000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
查一家而已啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
姜署長至剛 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:03.211000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-15T13:09:03.451000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
應該不只吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
姜署長至剛 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:04.773000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-15T13:09:07.216000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
我確定一下是幾家。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
姜署長至剛 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:07.456000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-15T13:09:08.398000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
我們去年的時候是…… |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:08.718000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-15T13:09:09.860000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
去幾天？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
姜署長至剛 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:11.517000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-15T13:09:13.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
總共差不多約略一個禮拜。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:14.361000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-15T13:09:14.602000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
一個禮拜？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:14.782000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-15T13:09:15.102000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
還是一個月？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:15.403000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-15T13:09:15.663000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
差很多。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
姜署長至剛 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:16.324000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-15T13:09:20.550000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
將近2周的時間，我們的同仁們有去，跟防檢署一起前去查廠，去年的3月份，事前我們就去了。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.528 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:24.633000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-15T13:09:33.938000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
部長，我問同一個問題，上一次問你的時候，你是次長，現在是部長，官越做越大，但是你不要一直「倒退攄」。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.732 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:38.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-15T13:09:41.841000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
ART簽完，多少名嘴在電視上最擔心的是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.65 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:41.841000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-15T13:09:52.734000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
我們的食安防線全面撤守，這裡面我就跟你講這個，但你們沒有規劃，你今天承諾，只要ART生效，多久以內可以去查廠？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.918 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:53.155000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-15T13:09:53.735000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
你告訴我。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:53.755000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-15T13:09:57.438000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
我們一定會按照食安法的規定來進行。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-15T13:09:59.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:06.444000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
這樣好不好，你公開承諾，只要ART正式簽訂，立法院也通過之後，半年內去查廠，可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:11.282000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:11.923000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
回答我這樣的假設條件，可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.385 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:13.624000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:19.448000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
我們應該是新開放的才有啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:19.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:24.892000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
沒有，新開放的心、肝、腎高風險部位，還有絞肉啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.526 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:24.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:26.533000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
他要進來的我們才會查。對啊！對啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:26.713000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:26.874000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
要進來的。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:26.874000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:27.874000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
我們開放，但他不進來，我們也沒有必要要查。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:26.994000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:27.014000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
當然啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:27.094000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:27.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
當然啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:27.334000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:29.055000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
我現在就跟你講，因為有新開放的，有心、肝、腎（內臟）啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:29.215000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:29.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
如果是新的，我們就會查。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:29.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:37.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
我是說心肝的心、heart，不是new啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:37.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:47.267000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
不是啦，新的廠啦，如果之前就已經是舊的，那個就不需要啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:47.587000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:48.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
為什麼不需要？ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:48.548000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:49.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
以前沒有開放的部位啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:49.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:50.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
就是有新開放的部位。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:49.208000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:50.329000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
新開放的部位要去啊，對不對？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:55.032000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:55.592000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
半年可以吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:56.633000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-04-15T13:10:58.333000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
正式簽訂後半年內，可以吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-04-15T13:10:58.333000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-04-15T13:11:00.513500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
農業部，可不可以？ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
杜署長麗華 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-04-15T13:11:00.513500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-04-15T13:11:02.694000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
杜署長麗華 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-04-15T13:11:02.694000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-04-15T13:11:06.395000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
其實每年都有固定一次要查訪，大概都在年中…… |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-04-15T13:11:06.395000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-04-15T13:11:07.396000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
你們每年都一次嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
杜署長麗華 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-04-15T13:11:07.396000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-04-15T13:11:08.196000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
每年至少一次。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-04-15T13:11:09.276000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-04-15T13:11:09.876000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
去查幾家？ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
杜署長麗華 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-04-15T13:11:11.017000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-04-15T13:11:12.557000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
就是他核可的5到6家。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-04-15T13:11:13.237000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-04-15T13:11:14.358000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
你們把報告給我們好不好？好。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-04-15T13:11:14.578000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-04-15T13:11:19.099000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
因為我查資料都查不到，我查的資料說2018年以後你們都沒有去查廠。 |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
杜署長麗華 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-04-15T13:11:19.639000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-04-15T13:11:24.020000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
沒有，從民國九十幾年到……我跟委員報告…… |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-04-15T13:11:24.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-04-15T13:11:24.420000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
好，細節不講了，細節先不講了。 |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-04-15T13:11:24.541000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-04-15T13:11:52.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
來，我現在關心的議題跟部長還有農業部有關係，前年越南的法國麵包出問題；今年的清明節高雄潤餅出問題；上個禮拜新北便當上吐下瀉；人家查出來了是農業部放水，原來規定強制要洗選蛋，結果你們把強制改成鼓勵，農業部來說明為什麼改這樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.843 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-04-15T13:11:52.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-04-15T13:11:52.273000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
說一下好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-04-15T13:11:52.473000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-04-15T13:11:53.474000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
農業部為什麼這麼大的轉變，為什麼原來要強制，後來變成鼓勵咧？ |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-04-15T13:11:53.474000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-04-15T13:11:53.794000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
你們不知道怎麼回答？ |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
曾技正右竹 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-04-15T13:12:11.226000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-04-15T13:12:11.466000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
曾技正右竹 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-04-15T13:12:12.087000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-04-15T13:12:17.071000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
今天我代表畜牧司出席，但因為蛋的部分不是我這邊管理的，據我所知目前…… |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.839 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-04-15T13:12:17.672000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-04-15T13:12:18.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
不是你管的就不要上來了。 |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
曾技正右竹 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-04-15T13:12:19.253000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-04-15T13:12:20.054000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-04-15T13:12:20.054000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-04-15T13:12:26.239000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
好啦，部長，我重點問部長，或是署長能不能回答？ |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0.842 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-04-15T13:12:28.721000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-04-15T13:12:30.623000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
不然我問部長好不好，部長比較清楚。 |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-04-15T13:12:32.945000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-04-15T13:12:34.967000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
農業部這樣的改變有沒有知會你？ |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-04-15T13:12:35.608000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-04-15T13:12:40.589000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
有沒有告訴你我們原來是強制，現在變成鼓勵？ |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-04-15T13:12:40.589000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-04-15T13:12:44.611000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
有沒有告訴你？沒有！ |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-04-15T13:12:46.611000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-04-15T13:12:52.333000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
各做各的，沒有跟你們講，現在變成是你要收爛攤子喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-04-15T13:12:53.394000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-04-15T13:13:00.461000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
石部長，因為現在責任在食藥署這裡了，在你食藥署這裡了，OK？ |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-04-15T13:13:01.442000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-04-15T13:13:06.686000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
現在責任在你這裡了，所以源頭管理就變成非常非常的重要。 |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
0.96 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-04-15T13:13:10.269000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2026-04-15T13:13:34.127000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
我們現在來看，雖然是2021年的資料很舊了，但是better than nothing，臺灣的民眾37%用非全熟的蛋，比如說sunny-side egg一邊是生的、一邊熟的，當然全熟比較沒問題啦，還有1%的人用生蛋。 |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
0.787 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-04-15T13:13:35.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-04-15T13:13:35.989000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
日本怎麼做？ |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-04-15T13:13:36.229000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-04-15T13:13:50.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
日本用生食級的，像是sashimi這樣來管控沙門氏菌；韓國用殺蟲劑、抗生素來檢測；反觀臺灣這裡，人家日本、韓國都越來越嚴，為什麼我們越來越鬆？ |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
0.73 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-04-15T13:13:52.582000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-04-15T13:13:54.143000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
食藥署要怎麼樣補這一塊？ |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-04-15T13:13:55.104000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-04-15T13:13:57.428000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
部長說一下，食藥署今天有來吧？有。 |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-04-15T13:13:57.428000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-04-15T13:14:02.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
來，姜署長。 |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
姜署長至剛 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-04-15T13:14:02.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-04-15T13:14:09.085000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
報告委員，針對整個洗選蛋這個制度，其實主要政策是在農業部的政策…… |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-04-15T13:14:09.225000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-04-15T13:14:11.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
我知道，但是後面是你收尾啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
姜署長至剛 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-04-15T13:14:11.807000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-04-15T13:14:12.668000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
對，所以我們對於…… |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-04-15T13:14:12.668000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2026-04-15T13:14:13.789000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
你們收爛攤子啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
姜署長至剛 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-04-15T13:14:13.789000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2026-04-15T13:14:25.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
整個政策上面，尤其是大量使用的蛋，我們覺得能夠使用所謂的殺菌的液蛋來進行是最安全的，這部分未來會跟農業部一起來合作進行。 |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0.821 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-04-15T13:14:26.741000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2026-04-15T13:14:34.846000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
你們要跟農業部講一下啦，拜託一下，他們放這麼寬，從原來強制變成鼓勵，怎麼會這個樣子，到底是什麼考慮？ |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2026-04-15T13:14:36.027000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2026-04-15T13:14:38.188000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
是選舉考慮還是什麼，怎麼會這個樣子？ |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2026-04-15T13:14:39.769000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2026-04-15T13:14:43.671000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
我們有百分之三十幾的人吃不熟的蛋，這個其實風險是非常高的，部長，對吧？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2026-04-15T13:14:43.671000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[121].end |
2026-04-15T13:14:49.635000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].text |
不是，你說對，那要怎麼跟農業部反映一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[121].quality |
0.176 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2026-04-15T13:14:49.635000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2026-04-15T13:14:53.497000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].text |
我們會跟農業部再來討論看看政策上怎麼去提高…… |
| transcript.gazette[122].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2026-04-15T13:14:54.217000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2026-04-15T13:14:59.641000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].text |
我們看到日本、韓國是加強、加嚴格，我們是放寬，結果是農業部闖了禍，衛福部食藥署來負責任，你要擦屁股，變成這樣子！ |
| transcript.gazette[123].quality |
0.792 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2026-04-15T13:14:59.701000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[124].end |
2026-04-15T13:15:00.621000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].text |
你不覺得委屈嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[124].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2026-04-15T13:15:00.621000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2026-04-15T13:15:01.022000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].text |
我們會來強化兩部會之間的合作。 |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2026-04-15T13:15:01.322000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2026-04-15T13:15:02.803000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].text |
很委屈吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2026-04-15T13:15:17.394000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2026-04-15T13:15:18.076000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
謝謝賴士葆委員的質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[128].start |
2026-04-15T13:15:18.076000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[128].end |
2026-04-15T13:15:19.259000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].text |
接下來請洪孟楷委員質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[128].quality |
0.727 |