| IVOD_ID |
168023 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168023 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-36-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-30T10:59:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-30T11:11:12+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:48 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d0265d86f2f18c67ec71d6933509ef1a117671a01da40a13b7080941cab810cc17444451dbb786d95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
范雲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:59:24 - 11:11:12 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請司法院秘書長、法務部部長、內政部警政署就「法院安全秩序維護與法警職權行使」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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有請我們司法院高秘書長跟法務部的張司長有請高秘書長跟張司長 |
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法務部跟司法院能不能協助衛福部借資料 |
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小不曉得 我們近年來 尤其是這三年來 狼醫事件不斷發生我這裡的三個新聞 左邊這個就是陳情人那他們找我一起來開記者會因為台大婦產科名醫 他被這些人控訴性侵性猥褻至少六位女性 你看這個照片中 就是 |
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我這邊有出奇的就是有三位女性那她們是藥廠的業務那事實上這位醫師至少性侵跟性猥褻的至少六位女性那是就是在酒中下迷藥然後醒來的時候她們已經在旅館中全身赤裸那這麼嚴重的事情那當時一直有非常多的問題 |
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那不只是這件你可以看到中間這個2024同樣是台大的名醫那有六位就是包含政壇大樓的媳婦還有台大的女醫師控訴他們被性騷擾然後在最右邊又是台大醫院性侵性騷案那後來一審判刑三年而且這都是有非常多受害者的 |
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那我要講的事情是喔那這件事情之後那其實我們有質詢衛福部衛福部一直表達說民眾有他們同意民眾有資的權利所以要有一個所謂的狼醫平台那可是我們看到這件事情其實還沒有結束剛剛會上新聞可能他們因為是台大的醫生那這裡呢才今年二月上個月 |
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新北也出現婦科的狼醫那他居然藏兒少性影像而且包含病患的私密照而且外流的時間長達九年後來被求重刑兩年兩個月以上我想請問 |
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高秘書長 如果您是病患或是病患家屬應該覺得有權利要知道我們可以上網查一下就是我的家人要去看的醫師是不是狼醫吧民眾有權知道吧可以簡單答嗎 |
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當然我們希望民眾有權知道可是重點是說你個資方面要怎麼去衛福部就這個部分個資方面他到底要怎麼去完整的呈現你的個資是說狼醫的個資要保護嗎 |
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判刑確定的其實是會牽涉到不是只有狼醫各種犯罪我現在講的就是醫生就是說如果他是一般人我們並沒有要處理我現在講的是性侵性騷病患的這種狼醫判刑確定後 |
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那如果判刑確定是有判決的那我們判決裡面對於被告姓名是不會遮掩的我們現在不是講被告啊我的狼醫平台是說民眾能不能夠被告當然要保護嘛我現在問妳是狼醫對狼醫是被告他的姓名一定出現的一定要不能保護他嗎他不能遮掩的民眾他如果後來繼續職業或者是借了別人的什麼就是說我們應該要讓民眾有知的權利嘛 |
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就我們法院這邊的判決來講背後的名字是公佈的我現在問的是那個性侵的狼醫判刑確定之後衛福部要做狼醫平台您同意民眾有權去查我要看的這個婦產科醫師有沒有在那個平台上嗎 |
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有沒有記錄嗎我不能夠替衛福部這個回答你不用替衛福部回答你從一個公民的角度 民眾有沒有權利知道我當然希望我知道啊好 你先讓你知道嘛那我先要告訴你問題在哪裡就是民眾民團跟你一樣覺得應該要公開資訊我們有權利不被狼醫看診我們的家人有權利不要去狼醫嗎 |
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對那現在呢衛福部依照醫師法應該要就是說它有兩個部分一個是地方的衛生局就要啟動懲戒然後可以把它停業廢照廢證等那我們看得出來衛福部畫出了依照衛福的做法我們辦公室畫出了這個流程看起來很完美事件發生 |
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行政調查或者是司法程序行人調查就是譬如說台大的醫師他是台大的教授台大自己就可以調查就是那理論上調查確定就要啟動懲戒司法程序確定也要啟動懲戒那司法程序確定那個狼醫專區就是資訊專區衛福部已經做出來了有很大的新聞告訴大家可是呢你如果去看這個部分的話你會發現 |
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這裡面關於司法程序的兩條線是有問題的因為衛福部的專區裡面他們告訴我們他們僅能夠就新聞有報導的找出有公開的判決書 |
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如果今天不是台大名醫可能某個地方的醫生沒有人告訴他們媒體沒有報導咦 諮詢專區就沒有欸那那個高秘書長你覺得這會不會是個問題難道只有上新聞的狼醫民眾有權利知道嗎 |
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如果就民眾來講當然希望全部都知道當然希望所以從民眾的角度如果是你家人你也希望都知道那我們現在看一下這個是我的辦公室把衛福部弄的狼醫平台這位西醫師你看他的受害者就是相關的醫事人員然後這個就有這麼多人 |
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| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
這邊圈起來的是有判決書的因為衛福部的人找得到的然後沒有圈起來的就沒有判決書而且也還沒有懲戒因為相關的資訊是不完整的 |
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418.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
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那這是不是一個問題我們跟衛福部為了這件事情溝通衛福部表示正在和司法院溝通資訊借接因為剛剛也只有2023年後的資料因為他們無法取得請問司法院 |
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434.275 |
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你們可不可以協助啊這個衛福部好像覺得很為難因為司法院很大跟你們溝通很困難既然您作為秘書長都同意民眾有知的權利我現在講的不是一般人講的是跟病患有不對等權利關係會接觸到很多人的醫師所以不要跟我說這個太麻煩增加你們負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
459.705 |
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475.225 |
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其實我們都有做你們都有做所以是衛福部講錯了所謂資訊借接這句話我不太了解他的意思可是我們判決如果跟衣食有關的都會送給各地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
476.306 |
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都有送?政府的衛生局都有送衛生局?對,都有送衛生局那衛生局說他們都沒有收到,現在是哪方面出問題?至於他們要不要公開,那我就沒辦法替他們發言就是我現在並不知道是誰推給誰那比較重要是,既然你說都有做,那也可以一起送給衛福部吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
501.104 |
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517.509 |
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可不可以加一個衛福部如果你說都有送地方衛生局可以啊 如果是我們該送衛福部也可以可以啊 就可以再送給他們而且我們現在也在進行他們所謂的直接借借平台而不是用判決去傳送的這個事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
519.81 |
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536.564 |
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好那反正我現在得到你看監察院都就是說有調查報告那過去光是勞動局北市勞動局就沒有告訴衛生局不過當然那個是另外一個問題所以現在我想講的事情是因為衛生主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
537.645 |
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他們給我的答覆是說他們只能知道從新聞上知道的看起來司法院沒有跟他們借街好那我們認為不能夠像這個案子就是非台大醫院的其他地方的部長說盡速從嚴處理可是也是因為這個事情上新聞所以部長才會被問嘛那我想既然您都已經提到了你們的借街 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
563.803 |
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580.67 |
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那個高秘書長有承諾會告知不是 我們在109年就已經他們建立相關刑案資訊借接系統那他們現在是希望能夠更好撈取我們也正在做精進的109年更好撈取不是不是 109年就把資訊送給他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
583.391 |
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607.289 |
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妳說他們是衛福部嗎衛福部啊還有台北各地方政府的衛生局所以妳是給他整批資料叫他自己去撈沒有沒有沒有 判決一份一份判決都要送出去啊那他們為什麼會有撈取的問題我的意思是說他們現在要更精進的是希望打這個ID就可以在這個網路裡面直接這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
610.111 |
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629.275 |
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能夠什麼挑出來可是這牽涉到因為我們是給資本嘛那我們將來怎麼用電子檔去建立資料庫然後能夠方便的選出來這是他們現在希望要的對 那我想細節的部分我現在沒辦法釐清到底衛福部講的問題是不是你已經解決的 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
631.576 |
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643.124 |
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不管怎麼樣那法務部跟司法院這邊可不可以承諾我跟衛福部再次研商如何在醫師起訴跟判決後確實達成資訊流通與借接以確保我們民眾就醫安全這個秘書長您剛講起來聽起來是很願意的可以承諾嗎再開一次會好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
654.911 |
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是跟衛福部開會嗎跟衛福部延伸我們現在刑事廳都跟他們積極的就這件事情因為他們給我的不是這樣好不好那法務部也可以吧應該有相關的部分法務部也可以跟委員報告如果那個衛福部他有提出這個要求的話那法務部都會配合跟他們協商看要怎麼樣的一個資訊戒指因為我跟衛福部問他就是說好像這個進度是在跟你們戒接中就是聽起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
681.556 |
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706.452 |
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有剛講這是這兩天我們才上網查的裡面很多判決書是空的嘛因為只能到什麼2023年之後就之前就沒有好那這樣子可以在開示會會議記錄可以給本席一份跟我們司法法治委員嗎好那那個那相關的報告除了會議記錄之外也給我一份報告好嗎好那謝謝好一起加油啊好謝謝范委員 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2026-03-30T10:59:39.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[0].end |
2026-03-30T10:59:44.548000+08:00 |
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有請司法院高秘書長跟法務部張司長。 |
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1 |
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主席 |
| transcript.gazette[1].start |
2026-03-30T10:59:44.548000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[1].end |
2026-03-30T10:59:45.349000+08:00 |
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有請高秘書長跟張司長。 |
| transcript.gazette[1].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-03-30T10:59:45.349000+08:00 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2026-03-30T10:59:51.551000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].text |
兩位好。 |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-03-30T10:59:51.551000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2026-03-30T10:59:52.672000+08:00 |
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今天要跟兩位請教關於遭起訴或判刑的醫師懲戒，法務部跟司法院能不能協助衛福部介接資料？ |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
0.425 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-03-30T11:00:07.845000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2026-03-30T11:00:12.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].text |
兩位曉不曉得近年來，尤其是這三年來，狼醫事件不斷發生？ |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-03-30T11:00:13.630000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-03-30T11:00:28.022000+08:00 |
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這裡有三則新聞，左邊是陳情人找我一起開記者會，臺大婦產科名醫被這些人控訴性侵、性猥褻至少六位女性。 |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0.956 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-03-30T11:00:28.482000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-03-30T11:00:38.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
你看這個照片中有三位女性出席，他們是藥廠的業務。 |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.864 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-03-30T11:00:38.749000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-03-30T11:00:55.781000+08:00 |
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事實上，被這位醫師性侵跟性猥褻的至少有六位女性，是被在酒中下迷藥，他們醒來的時候已經在旅館中全身赤裸，這麼嚴重的事情當時一直有非常多的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-03-30T11:00:56.661000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-03-30T11:01:12.284000+08:00 |
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不只是這件，你可以看到中間這則是2024年，同樣是臺大的名醫，有六位受害者，包含政壇大老的媳婦還有臺大的女醫師控訴被性騷擾。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.868 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-03-30T11:01:13.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-03-30T11:01:23.767000+08:00 |
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最右邊又是臺大醫院性侵、性騷案，後來一審判刑三年，而且這些都是有非常多受害者的。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.972 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-03-30T11:01:24.527000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-03-30T11:01:36.293000+08:00 |
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我要講的是，這件事情之後我們有質詢衛福部，衛福部一直表達他們同意民眾有知的權利，所以要有一個狼醫平臺。 |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.979 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-03-30T11:01:36.933000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-03-30T11:01:44.176000+08:00 |
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可是這件事情還沒有結束，剛剛上新聞的那些可能因為是臺大的醫生。 |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-03-30T11:01:46.197000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-03-30T11:02:04.504000+08:00 |
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今年2月、上個月新北也出現婦科狼醫，他居然藏兒少性影像，包含病患的私密照，而且外流時間長達九年，後來被求處重刑兩年兩個月。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.981 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-03-30T11:02:05.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-03-30T11:02:19.363000+08:00 |
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請問高秘書長，如果您是病患或病患家屬應該覺得有權利知道、可以上網查一下家人要看的醫師是不是狼醫吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-03-30T11:02:19.943000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-03-30T11:02:20.964000+08:00 |
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民眾有權知道吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-03-30T11:02:21.264000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-03-30T11:02:21.344000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
可以簡單回答嗎？ |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-03-30T11:02:24.815000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-03-30T11:02:39.130000+08:00 |
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當然我們希望民眾有權知道，可是重點是衛福部就個資方面到底要怎麼完整呈現，這可能就不是…… |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-03-30T11:02:39.130000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-03-30T11:02:41.953000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
你的意思是判刑確定的狼醫個資要保護嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.611 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-03-30T11:02:41.953000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-03-30T11:02:46.576000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
這很難……不！ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-03-30T11:02:46.576000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-03-30T11:02:49.817000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
其實這會牽涉到的不是只有狼醫，各種犯罪…… |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-03-30T11:02:50.557000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-03-30T11:02:52.038000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
我現在講的就是醫生…… |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-03-30T11:02:52.038000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-03-30T11:02:54.039000+08:00 |
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對，沒錯！ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-03-30T11:02:54.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-03-30T11:03:02.883000+08:00 |
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如果他是一般人，我們並沒有要處理，我現在講的是性侵、性騷病患的這種狼醫判刑確定後。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-03-30T11:03:04.403000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-03-30T11:03:10.949000+08:00 |
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如果判刑確定、是有判決的，判決裡面對於被告姓名是不會設立…… |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-03-30T11:03:11.089000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-03-30T11:03:19.677000+08:00 |
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我現在不是講被告，我指的狼醫平臺是民眾能不能夠……被告當然要保護，我現在問你的是狼醫。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-03-30T11:03:19.677000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-03-30T11:03:21.999000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
對，狼醫是被告，他的姓名一定出現。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-03-30T11:03:22.419000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-03-30T11:03:23.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
一定不能保護他嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-03-30T11:03:23.820000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-03-30T11:03:24.401000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
不能遮掩。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-03-30T11:03:25.022000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-03-30T11:03:30.707000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
他如果後來繼續執業或者借了別人的什麼，我們應該要讓民眾有知的權利，您同意吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-03-30T11:03:33.169000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-03-30T11:03:36.973000+08:00 |
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我只能說知的權利就法院的判決來講，被告的名字是公布的。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.52 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-03-30T11:03:36.973000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-03-30T11:03:39.536000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
你聽不懂我說的？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.143 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-03-30T11:03:39.536000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-03-30T11:03:54.252000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
我現在問的是性侵的狼醫判刑確定之後，衛福部要設立狼醫平臺，您同意民眾有權去查他要看的婦產科醫師有沒有在那個平臺上、有沒有紀錄嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-03-30T11:03:54.252000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-03-30T11:03:57.555000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
我不能夠替衛福部回答，因為…… |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-03-30T11:03:57.635000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-03-30T11:04:02.038000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
你不用替衛福部回答，你從公民的角度，民眾有沒有權利知道？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-03-30T11:04:02.499000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-03-30T11:04:03.380000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
我當然希望我知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-03-30T11:04:03.860000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-03-30T11:04:15.429000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
好，你希望你知道，我現在告訴你問題在哪裡，民眾、民團跟你一樣覺得應該要公開資訊，我們有權利不被狼醫看診，我們的家人也有權利不要給狼醫看。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.885 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-03-30T11:04:17.431000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-03-30T11:04:29.836000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
可是現在衛福部依照醫師法，應該說有兩個部分，一個是地方的衛生局要啟動懲戒，可以把他停業、廢照、廢證等。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-03-30T11:04:33.878000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-03-30T11:04:42.862000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
依照衛福部的做法，我的辦公室畫出了這個流程，看起來很完美，事件發生接著進行行政調查或者司法程序。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.864 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-03-30T11:04:43.583000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-03-30T11:04:48.325000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
行政調查就譬如臺大的醫師、臺大的教授，臺大自己就可以調查。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-03-30T11:04:50.226000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-03-30T11:05:04.574000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
理論上，調查確定就要啟動懲戒，司法程序確定也要啟動懲戒，司法程序確定後還要揭露在狼醫資訊專區，衛福部已經做出來了，有很大的新聞告訴大家。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.903 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-03-30T11:05:06.115000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-03-30T11:05:25.089000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
如果你看這個部分會發現，裡面關於司法程序的兩條線是有問題的，因為衛福部告訴我們，他們的專區僅能夠就新聞有報導的找出判決書來公開。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.883 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-03-30T11:05:26.330000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-03-30T11:05:34.957000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
如果今天不是臺大名醫，可能是某個地方的醫生，沒有人告訴他們，媒體也沒有報導，資訊專區就沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.902 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-03-30T11:05:38.240000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-03-30T11:05:40.742000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
高秘書長，你覺得這會不會是個問題？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-03-30T11:05:40.742000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-03-30T11:05:43.705000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
難道只有上新聞的狼醫，民眾才有權利知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-30T11:05:44.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-03-30T11:05:47.666000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
如果就民眾來講，當然希望全部都知道，這個資訊怎麼去…… |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.696 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-03-30T11:05:48.667000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-03-30T11:05:52.348000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
當然希望，所以從民眾的角度，如果是你家人，你也希望都知道嘛？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-30T11:05:54.789000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-03-30T11:06:24.202000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
這個是我的辦公室整理衛福部狼醫平臺的資訊，西醫師的受害者就有這麼多相關的醫事人員，圈起來的是有判決書的，是衛福部的人找得到的，沒有圈起來的就是沒有判決書，而且也還沒有懲戒，因為相關資訊是不完整的，這是不是一個問題？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-03-30T11:06:24.202000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-03-30T11:06:30.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
我們跟衛福部為了這件事情溝通之後，衛福部表示正在和司法院溝通資訊介接。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-03-30T11:06:32.330000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-30T11:06:39.456000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
剛剛只有2023年後的資料，因為他們無法取得，請問司法院可不可以協助？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-03-30T11:06:40.396000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-03-30T11:06:50.180000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
衛福部好像覺得很為難，因為司法院很大，跟你們溝通很困難，既然您作為秘書長都同意民眾有知的權利。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-03-30T11:06:50.880000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-03-30T11:07:01.604000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
我現在講的不是一般人，講的是跟病患有不對等權力關係、會接觸到很多人的醫師，所以不要跟我說這個太麻煩，增加你們的負擔。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-03-30T11:07:03.705000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-03-30T11:07:04.887000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
其實我們都有做…… |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-03-30T11:07:06.168000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-03-30T11:07:08.091000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
你們都有做，所以是衛福部講錯了？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-03-30T11:07:09.513000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-03-30T11:07:22.527000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
所謂「資訊介接」，我不太了解這句話的意思，可是判決如果跟醫師有關的都會送給各地方政府的衛生局。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-03-30T11:07:22.847000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-03-30T11:07:23.928000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
都有送衛生局？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-03-30T11:07:24.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-03-30T11:07:25.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
對，都有送衛生局。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-03-30T11:07:26.129000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-03-30T11:07:29.631000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
可是衛生局說他們都沒有收到，現在是哪方面出問題？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-03-30T11:07:29.631000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-03-30T11:07:35.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
至於他們要不要公開，我就沒辦法替他們發言，可是我們都會送出去。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-03-30T11:07:35.995000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-03-30T11:07:39.396000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
我現在並不知道是誰推給誰。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-03-30T11:07:39.577000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-03-30T11:07:43.699000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
比較重要的是，既然你說都有做，也可以一起送給衛福部吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-03-30T11:07:45.104000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-03-30T11:07:46.064000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
可不可以加衛福部？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-03-30T11:07:46.224000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-03-30T11:07:48.585000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
如果你說都有送地方衛生局，譬如新北的送新北衛生局……可以！ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.56 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-03-30T11:07:49.005000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-03-30T11:07:50.866000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
如果是我們該送。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-03-30T11:07:51.206000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-03-30T11:07:51.766000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
衛福部也可以？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-03-30T11:07:52.806000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-03-30T11:08:01.509000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
可以再送給他們，而且我們現在也在進行所謂的直接介接平臺，而不是用判決去傳送這個事項。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.949 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-03-30T11:08:04.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-03-30T11:08:15.820000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
反正我現在得到的資訊是，監察院都有調查報告，過去光是北市勞動局就沒有告訴衛生局，不過那是另外一個問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.915 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-03-30T11:08:17.381000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-03-30T11:08:39.473000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
現在我想講的是，因為衛生主管機關給我的答復是，他們只能從新聞上知道，看起來司法院沒有跟他們介接好，我們認為不能夠像這個案子一樣，非臺大醫院的、其他地方的雖然部長說儘速從嚴處理，可是也是因為事情上新聞，所以部長才會被問。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-03-30T11:08:40.993000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-03-30T11:08:50.484000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
既然您都已經提到了介接，高秘書長有承諾會告知…… |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-03-30T11:08:51.084000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-03-30T11:09:01.949000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
有，我們在109年就已經跟他們建立相關刑案資訊介接系統，他們現在是希望能夠更好撈取，我們也正在精進。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.93 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-03-30T11:09:02.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-03-30T11:09:04.270000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
109年更好撈取是說……不！ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-03-30T11:09:04.390000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-03-30T11:09:04.670000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
是109年就把資訊送給他們。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-03-30T11:09:07.932000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-03-30T11:09:08.892000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
你說的他們是衛福部嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-03-30T11:09:08.892000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-03-30T11:09:09.333000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
衛福部。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-03-30T11:09:09.333000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-03-30T11:09:11.014000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
還有各地方政府的衛生局？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.182 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-03-30T11:09:11.014000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-03-30T11:09:12.575000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
各地方政府的衛生局。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-03-30T11:09:13.075000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-03-30T11:09:15.597000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
所以你是給他整批資料，叫他自己撈？沒有！ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-03-30T11:09:17.139000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-03-30T11:09:19.921000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
是判決，一份一份判決都要送出去，那是具體的判決。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-03-30T11:09:20.101000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-03-30T11:09:22.723000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
他們為什麼會有撈取的問題？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-03-30T11:09:22.723000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-03-30T11:09:47.714000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
我的意思是，他們現在要更精進的是希望打ID就可以在網路直接挑出來，可是這牽涉到因為我們只給紙本，將來怎麼用電子檔建立資料庫讓他們能夠方便的選出來，這是他們現在希望要的。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.937 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-03-30T11:09:49.895000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-03-30T11:09:53.255000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
有關細節的部分，我現在沒辦法釐清到底衛福部講的問題是不是你已經解決的。 |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-03-30T11:09:55.576000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-03-30T11:10:05.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
不管怎麼樣，法務部跟司法院這邊可不可以承諾我，跟衛福部再次研商如何在醫師起訴跟判決後確實達成資訊流通與介接，以確保我們民眾就醫安全？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-03-30T11:10:05.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-03-30T11:10:06.663000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
秘書長，您剛剛聽起來是很願意的，可以承諾嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-03-30T11:10:06.663000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-03-30T11:10:07.104000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
再開一次會，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-03-30T11:10:18.911000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-03-30T11:10:20.071000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
是，可以承諾，是跟衛福部開會嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.615 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-03-30T11:10:20.071000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-03-30T11:10:20.591000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
跟衛福部研商…… |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-03-30T11:10:21.091000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-03-30T11:10:23.972000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
我們現在刑事廳都跟他們積極地就這件事在…… |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-03-30T11:10:24.192000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-03-30T11:10:26.272000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
因為他們給我的不是這樣，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-03-30T11:10:26.272000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-03-30T11:10:27.272000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
真的喔？好。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-03-30T11:10:27.193000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-03-30T11:10:27.873000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
法務部也可以吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-03-30T11:10:28.373000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-03-30T11:10:29.933000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
應該有相關的部分，法務部也可以喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
張司長曉雯 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-03-30T11:10:30.533000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-03-30T11:10:37.034000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
跟委員報告，如果衛福部有提出這個要求的話，法務部都會配合跟他們協商，看要怎麼樣的資訊介接。 |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.951 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-03-30T11:10:37.795000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-03-30T11:11:00.926000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
好，因為我問衛福部，他就是說好像這個進度是在跟你們介接中，聽起來剛剛講的，就是這兩天我們才上網查的，裡面很多判決書是空的，因為只能到2023年，之前就沒有，這樣子可以再開一次會，會議紀錄可以給本席一份及我們司法及法制委員嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-03-30T11:11:00.926000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-03-30T11:11:02.507000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
好，可以，沒問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.167 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-03-30T11:11:02.507000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-03-30T11:11:07.950000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
好，相關的報告，除了會議紀錄之外，也給我一份報告，好嗎？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-03-30T11:11:07.950000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-03-30T11:11:10.192000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
好，謝謝，一起加油。 |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-03-30T11:11:10.412000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-03-30T11:11:10.452000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
謝謝范雲委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-03-30T11:11:10.952000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-03-30T11:11:14.952000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
接下來我們有請李坤城委員發言。 |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0 |