| IVOD_ID |
167588 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167588 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-18T10:32:52+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-18T10:41:21+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:29 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4e26a61b53ad60539b0f26083c87904ef85a32efe0b6ef7a854b2f19bd25f7001c0234b0a221b0dd5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:32:52 - 10:41:21 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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王署長茂城 |
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謝謝主席謝謝主席有請農業部陳部長好請陳部長 |
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幾個問題請教從你的報告裡面說今年2月21日向世界動物衛生組織提交ASF那自我聲明非議區文件已經都申請了那最後結果什麼時候公布 |
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我想那個WH本身他會進行相關的一個審查然後他會根據我們提出來的東西會有一些疑問或是要補充意見的那最近他有來文要我們補充意見那相關的我們準備的非常充分有些資訊我們有充分的把握跟細心我們絕對有把握啦所以他如果補充文件之後他們會最快時間去審查你預期什麼時候會公告 |
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六個月內照他們的期程 從現在開始嗎還是申請開始 應該從二月開始所以大概七八月 對然後我們希望更快越快越好這個就是讓國際放心 是那如果你這個我們要重返這個三大豬變成非一區的時候相關的檢疫還會放鬆嗎我想不會 還會調整不會目前的檢疫政策還是維持我們的檢疫政策我想喔 |
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很重要的一個就是我們到了年底我們所有的廚餘就禁止到豬的系統裡面然後相關的禽類下甲料我們會做成循環再利用的飼料這個部分那相對它的風險就會降低這個問題就是想 |
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繼續請教您這個上會期EcoFit的部分我實際跑去日本跟他們的農業水產省相關的官員討論他們怎麼樣把廚餘變成飼料有相關的技術你也說如果相關技術可以的話 |
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也希望取得授權我們導入這個Ecofeed目前的進度怎麼樣我想我上個禮拜親是去現場那個工廠去參觀了那整個Ecofeed的工廠分為兩個部分一個部分是直接變成飼料化另外一個是比較有油油水的廚餘它是經過能源化它是在一起的部分然後他當場也說我們台灣已經有兩三位業者跟他洽詢了 |
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那本來我想問他們是哪兩三家啦他因為是商業機密他不願意透露這個人表示說我們台灣的業者其實已經跟他有一些接觸然後同時我們在行政院就是也經過討論未來這樣子一個Ecofeed循環再利用飼料廠的一個興建投資的時候政府會做適當的補助跟協助把日本那一套我們可以學習把它引用到台灣來 |
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相關的技術我們全取得授權那政委也要投入資源對我們會投入我們會來協助要協助廠商因為所有的廚餘啊最後就是變成這個也可以變成燃料也可以變成這個飼料所以完全不會進入養豬的系統嘛然後搭配家戶的這個廚餘處理機我也曾經提案說是不是他們幾乎每一家都有廚餘處理機所以把那個水跟油啊全部大部分都縮小 |
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所以他們就很大的程度很大的比例可以變成這個什麼飼料而且成本也降低啊對不對所以這部分我希望說這個速度能夠快一點把日本那套經驗把它學習我想我的目標是第一個能夠在台灣生產那個大概七八月看看可不可以有新的 |
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一些飼料供應所以我想我們會針對現在目前的全順就是苗栗的共同政治中心做轉型那有一部分現在在申請這個原來申請共同政治中心的九個案子我們再跟他洽談有沒有意願轉成如果有必要我可以邀請這個部長 相關同仁一起去日本再去看一下 |
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因為我跟農曆署長只是一些這個聽他們專家寫者他們的意見或者一些分析沒有去市場看我很樂意再邀請委員去裡面現場看我可以排類似的考察好 下一個問題就是石斑魚產業石斑魚目前的價格怎麼樣那個署長石斑魚我是不是可以請那個好 署長 |
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各位委員報告我們18年現在一年產量大概17000到18000噸那主要市場還是仰賴這個活魚的輸出到香港跟大陸所以你市場過度集中在中國跟香港有華人的包括印尼、馬來西亞、新加坡這個都是我們潛在市場 |
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跟委員報告這絕對是所以我們現在從去年開始就在開發這種多元市場像美加現在的華人超市裡面其實對我們石斑魚的切片的產品他們也有高度的興趣所以我們目前政策上就是希望我們石斑魚未來也可以做這種計畫性的生產然後養比較大規格的那取肉率比較高這是你現在在處理的方式嘛是那 |
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以現在來看你處理的方式並沒有達標嘛比如說我們石斑魚石斑活魚出口的量減少了將近10%價格跌的將近16%跟委員報告是但是在今年在1、2月今年初1、2月其實它已經有回穩回來了啦 |
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但是過度集中在這個大陸跟香港其實是要調整的所以就是要求漁業署要趕快把這個市場分散化是是是你要拿出具體的這個做法然後你要 |
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建立一個指標一個目標值所以每次問你們都還是一樣集中在香港跟中國這個部分你們也想怎麼做呢我跟委員報告就是我在今年跟去年基本上我在日本市長的時候我們已經啟動了一個類似計劃性生產因為在日本裡面有很多餐廳其實我們是進到餐廳的系統那餐廳的系統它需要一定規格的也不能太大 |
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所以我們現在跟業者在做這樣的一個看看有沒有媒合變成一個類似計劃性生產然後去供應日本市場的這個餐廳系統類似這樣的方式才有機會去拉出去好 了解接著請教一下酪農酪農產業如果阿爾簽訂之後對酪農產業一定會造成衝擊嘛那怎麼樣去協助酪農產業能夠扶植能夠振興那個農業部有沒有相關的政策我想第一個部分 |
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先跟委員說明喔就是台牛去年零關稅最後結果去年整個牛奶的進口只增加了600多噸而已表示說我們過去的愛用國產鮮乳還是喜歡用國產鮮乳所以我們在總量管制牛級管理的前提之下我們會加強國產乳的行銷可是相對的價格沒有優勢啊 |
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對,但是價值是有優勢的,就是它的品質有優勢沒錯,但是如果景氣不好,大家就啊,一個乳品相對找一個替代性的或者是它的成本價格比較低的,這個替代效果就會產生我跟委員報告齁,就是現在很多就是手搖飲店齁,就是這些東西我們有大量的牛奶都用鮮奶的,以前都是用冰磚奶 |
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所以這個部分我們跟很多協會一起合作在推國產乳進到不同的市場你應該響應 政府應該代表響應就是說要鼓勵國人多飲用國產鮮乳對 所以我現在準備在高鐵跟台鐵的車站裡面買一些看板變成台灣鮮乳唯一選擇 |
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好,謝謝趙偉的示範,謝謝部長 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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謝謝主席。 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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鍾佳濱委員主持比我更有效率，有請農業部陳部長。 |
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主席 |
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請陳部長。 |
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1 |
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陳部長駿季 |
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1 |
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委員好。 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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1 |
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陳部長你好，辛苦了。 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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幾個問題請教，從你的報告裡面說，今年2月21日正式向世界動物衛生組織提交ASF自我聲明非疫區文件，已經都申請了，對不對？ |
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邱委員志偉 |
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最後的結果什麼時候會公布？ |
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0.833 |
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陳部長駿季 |
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是，我想WOAH本身會進行相關的審查，然後他會根據我們提出來的東西會有一些疑問或者要補充意見，最近有來文要我們補充意見，相關的部分我們準備地非常充分，有些資訊我們立即…… |
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0.885 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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我們有充分的把握跟信心。 |
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陳部長駿季 |
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我們絕對有把握。 |
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1 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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如果補充文件之後，他們會用最快時間去審查，你預期什麼時候會公告？ |
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0.966 |
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陳部長駿季 |
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6個月內，照他們的期程…… |
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1 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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從現在開始嗎？ |
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1 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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還是從申請開始？ |
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0.857 |
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陳部長駿季 |
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應該從2月開始。 |
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1 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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所以大概7、8月？ |
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1 |
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陳部長駿季 |
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對，然後我們希望越快越好。 |
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1 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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2026-03-18T10:34:15.963000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
這個就是讓國際放心，如果我們又重返三大豬病非疫區時，相關的檢疫還會放鬆嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.912 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-03-18T10:34:16.763000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-03-18T10:34:16.763000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
還是會調整？ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-03-18T10:34:17.264000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-03-18T10:34:18.404000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
我想不會。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-03-18T10:34:18.404000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-03-18T10:34:19.864000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
目前的檢疫政策還是維持？ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-03-18T10:34:20.264000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-03-18T10:34:37.977000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
我們的檢疫政策很重要的一個就是到了年底，所有的廚餘就禁止到豬的系統裡面，然後相關的禽類下腳料會做成循環再利用的飼料，相對地，這個部分的風險就會降低。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.942 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-03-18T10:34:39.017000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-03-18T10:35:02.520000+08:00 |
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這個問題想繼續請教你，就是上會期Ecofeed的部分，我實際去日本跟農林水產省的相關官員討論，怎麼樣把廚餘變成飼料的相關技術，你也說如果相關技術可以的話，也希望取得授權導入Ecofeed，目前的進度是怎麼樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.887 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-03-18T10:35:02.920000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-03-18T10:35:19.352000+08:00 |
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我上個禮拜親自去那個工廠現場參觀，整個Ecofeed的工廠分為兩個部分，一個部分是直接變成飼料化，另外一個是比較有油有水的廚餘，它是經過能源化，是在一起的。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-03-18T10:35:20.373000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-03-18T10:35:35.725000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
他當場也說我們臺灣已經有兩、三位業者跟他洽詢，本來我想問他們是哪兩、三家，因為是商業機密，他不願意透露，表示我們臺灣的業者其實已經跟他有些接觸。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-03-18T10:35:36.046000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-03-18T10:35:48.296000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
同時，我們在行政院也經過討論，未來這樣子的Ecofeed循環再利用飼料廠的興建投資，政府會做適當的補助跟協助。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.98 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-03-18T10:35:48.776000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-03-18T10:35:57.021000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
日本那一套我們可以學習，把它引用到臺灣來，相關的技術我們可以取得授權，政府也要投入資源。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.925 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-03-18T10:35:57.461000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-03-18T10:35:58.721000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
對，我們會投入，會來協助。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-03-18T10:35:59.041000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-03-18T10:36:21.266000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
要協助廠商，因為所有的廚餘，最後就是可以變成燃料，也可以變成飼料，所以完全不會進入養豬的系統，然後搭配家戶的廚餘處理機，我也曾經提案是不是……他們幾乎每一家都有廚餘處理機，所以把水跟油全部……分離。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.977 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-03-18T10:36:21.446000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-03-18T10:36:22.066000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
大幅度縮小，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.375 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-03-18T10:36:23.646000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-03-18T10:36:32.388000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
所以很大的程度、很大的比例可以變成飼料，而且飼料成本也降低，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-03-18T10:36:32.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-03-18T10:36:38.289000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
這部分我希望速度能夠快一點，把日本那一套經驗加以學習、copy，我們可以運用…… |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.657 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-03-18T10:36:38.989000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-03-18T10:36:42.430000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
我的目標是第一個能夠在臺灣生產Ecofeed的…… |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.652 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-03-18T10:36:42.430000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-03-18T10:36:43.930000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
飼料管理法要不要修呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-03-18T10:36:43.930000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-03-18T10:37:03.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
大概7、8月看看可不可以有新的一些飼料供應，所以我想我們會針對目前的全順，就是苗栗的共同蒸煮中心做轉型，有一部分原來在申請共同蒸煮中心的9個案子，我們再跟他洽談有沒有意願轉成…… |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.937 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-03-18T10:37:03.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-03-18T10:37:16.448000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
如果有必要，我可以邀請部長及相關同仁一起去日本再看一下，因為我跟農林水產省只是聽他們專家學者的意見或者一些分析，沒有去實廠看。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.864 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-03-18T10:37:17.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-03-18T10:37:20.930000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
我很樂意再邀請委員去現場看，在現場看你會覺得…… |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.619 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-03-18T10:37:22.031000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-03-18T10:37:23.372000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
經濟委員會也可以排類似的考察。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-03-18T10:37:25.213000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-03-18T10:37:32.397000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
下一個問題是關於石斑魚產業，石斑魚目前的價格怎麼樣？署長。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-03-18T10:37:32.397000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-03-18T10:37:34.018000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
關於石斑魚，我是不是可以請…… |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-03-18T10:37:34.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-03-18T10:37:34.839000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
好，署長。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
王署長茂城 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-03-18T10:37:36.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-03-18T10:37:42.428000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
跟委員報告，石斑魚現在一年產量大概一萬7,000到1萬8,000公噸。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
王署長茂城 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-03-18T10:37:42.588000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-03-18T10:37:49.351000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
主要市場還是仰賴活魚輸出到香港跟大陸，那目前…… |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-03-18T10:37:49.351000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-03-18T10:37:52.332000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
所以市場過度集中在中國跟香港。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
王署長茂城 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-18T10:37:52.332000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-03-18T10:37:53.332000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
是、是，所以…… |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-03-18T10:37:53.113000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-03-18T10:37:58.155000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
但有華人的地區，包括印尼、馬來西亞、新加坡，都是我們的潛在市場嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.821 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
王署長茂城 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-18T10:37:58.909000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-03-18T10:38:23.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
跟委員報告，這絕對是，所以我們從去年開始就在開發多元市場，像美加現在的華人超市裡面，其實對我們石斑魚切片的產品也有高度興趣，所以我們目前政策上，就是希望石斑魚未來也可以做這種計畫性的生產，然後養比較大規格、取肉率比較高的…… |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.99 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-03-18T10:38:23.414000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-03-18T10:38:25.215000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
這是你現在處理的方式嘛！是。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-03-18T10:38:26.315000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-18T10:38:28.636000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
以現在來看，你處理的方式並沒有達標嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-03-18T10:38:28.836000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-03-18T10:38:37.320000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
比如我們石斑魚活魚出口量減少了將近10%，價格跌了將近16%。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.96 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
王署長茂城 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-03-18T10:38:37.320000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-03-18T10:38:49.652000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
跟委員報告，是，但是在今年初1、2月，其實已經有回穩了，但是過度集中在大陸跟香港，其實是要調整的。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-03-18T10:38:50.173000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-03-18T10:38:53.459000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
這個部分就是要求漁業署要趕快把市場分散化。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.81 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-03-18T10:38:53.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-03-18T10:39:06.229000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
你要拿出具體的做法，然後要建立一個指標、一個目標值，但每次問你們，都還是一樣集中在香港跟中國，這個部分你們想怎麼做呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.981 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-03-18T10:39:07.470000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-03-18T10:39:33.961000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
跟委員報告，我在今年跟去年在日本市場的時候，我們已經啟動了一個類似計畫性生產，因為在日本有很多餐廳……其實我們是進到餐廳的系統，而餐廳的系統需要一定規格的魚，也不能太大，所以我們現在跟業者在做這樣的一個……看看有沒有辦法媒合，變成一個類似計畫性生產，然後去供應日本市場的餐廳系統，類似這樣的方式，才有機會拉出去。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-03-18T10:39:34.361000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-03-18T10:39:34.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
好，了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-03-18T10:39:35.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-03-18T10:39:40.063000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
接著請教一下酪農產業，如果ART簽訂之後，對酪農產業一定會造成衝擊，怎麼樣去協助酪農產業並加以扶植、振興？ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-03-18T10:39:40.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-03-18T10:39:40.763000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
農業部有沒有相關的政策？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-03-18T10:39:41.384000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:03.432000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
第一個部分先跟委員說明，臺紐去年零關稅，最後結果去年整個牛奶的進口只增加了六百多噸而已，表示我們過去…… |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.936 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-03-18T10:40:03.692000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:03.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
愛用國產鮮乳。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-03-18T10:40:05.033000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:06.133000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
還是喜歡用國產鮮乳。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-03-18T10:40:06.814000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:12.476000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
所以我們在總量管制和牛籍管理的前提之下，我們會加強國產乳的行銷…… |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-03-18T10:40:12.476000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:13.717000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
可是相對的，價格沒有優勢啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-03-18T10:40:14.997000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:17.739000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
對，但是價值是有優勢的，就是它的品質…… |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-03-18T10:40:17.739000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:27.325000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
價值有優勢沒錯，但是如果景氣不好，大家就會在乳品找一個替代性的，或者是它的成本價格比較低的，這替代效果就會產生了。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.904 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-03-18T10:40:27.565000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:45.017000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
我跟委員報告，現在很多手搖飲店，這些東西有大量的牛奶，都用鮮奶了，以前都是用冰磚奶，所以這個部分我們跟很多協會一起合作在推國產乳進到不同的市場。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.985 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-03-18T10:40:45.017000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:45.997000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
你應該響應，政府應該帶頭響應，要鼓勵國人多多飲用國產鮮乳。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.885 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-03-18T10:40:46.017000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:47.539000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
對，所以我現在準備在高鐵跟臺鐵的車站裡面買一些看板，變成「臺灣鮮乳，唯一選擇」，用這樣的一個概念去加強image。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.68 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-03-18T10:40:47.539000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:49.976800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
下次如果你再來立法院，我再買幾瓶鮮乳，我們一起來…… |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-03-18T10:40:49.976800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:52.414600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
好，我們一起來喝。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-03-18T10:40:52.414600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:54.852400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
我們一起來推廣國產鮮乳。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-03-18T10:40:54.852400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:57.290200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
因為時間關係，召委應該要帶頭做示範，謝謝。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-03-18T10:40:57.290200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:59.728000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
有相關的問題再跟您請教。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-03-18T10:40:59.728000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:59.788000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-03-18T10:40:59.788000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-03-18T10:40:59.948000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
謝謝召委的示範、謝謝部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-03-18T10:41:00.448000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-03-18T10:41:02.162286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
我們休息6分鐘。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-03-18T10:41:02.462286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-03-18T10:41:03.605143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
休息（10時41分） |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-03-18T10:41:03.905143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-03-18T10:41:05.619429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
繼續開會（10時47分） |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
主席（邱委員志偉） |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-03-18T10:41:05.919429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-03-18T10:41:11.919429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
請備詢官員先入座，請農業部的備詢官員儘速入座。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
主席（邱委員志偉） |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-03-18T10:41:12.219429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-03-18T10:41:17.648000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
我們現在繼續質詢，下一位質詢請鄭天財委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0 |