| IVOD_ID |
158874 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158874 |
| 日期 |
2025-01-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-19,20-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期經濟、財政兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟、財政兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-01-15T09:48:36+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-01-15T09:57:11+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:35 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/427ddbb1724b1d1acd2aefb6919f48115a45ebd5c2e753183641ee913381949d94c2a44ecd674d185ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝衣鳯 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:48:36 - 09:57:11 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-01-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟、財政兩委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查：
一、行政院函請審議「產業創新條例部分條文修正草案」案。
二、本院委員葛如鈞等16人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第十七條之一條文修正草案」案。
三、本院委員林岱樺等18人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第十七條之一條文修正草案」案。
四、本院委員楊瓊瓔等29人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
五、本院委員何欣純等23人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一條文修正草案」案。
六、本院委員邱議瑩等16人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
七、本院委員蔡其昌等18人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
八、本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一條文修正草案」案。
九、本院委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
十、本院委員邱志偉等20人擬具「產業創新條例部分條文修正草案」案。
十一、本院委員鄭正鈐等19人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一條文修正草案」案。
(第一案及第十一案如未接獲議事處來函，則不予審查)
【1月15日及16日兩天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席我想要請連次長跟我們高副主委經濟部連次長 國會高副主委 |
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我想請問一下就是去年他台電停掉了桃園以北就是5MW以上的資料中心的申請因為用電不要那個南電北送的緣故嘛那未來威達如果設總部在台北的時候這個怎麼處理 |
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那個台電不是說要停掉那個是說要因地制宜然後要去做一些對啊他就說什麼所以這個才要要求說是不是說地方政府如果你真的產業要發展要用電的時候也可以支持說在地的有一些電源的設置 |
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所以如果威達總部要設在台北用電是沒有問題嗎我們會充分供應會充分供應嗎但是你們就算沒有威達那在台北地區的用電的供需目前是高達了200億度的這個gap |
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對不對 有這樣子的差距耶這怎麼解決所以這個要透過電網的一個調度啦那怎麼調度那個我請台電說明一下發國委員 那個北部現在整體來講它確實供電的是小於需求啦就用電端的是比較大所以如果要解決要兩個一個就是北部要區域的平衡其實電源在北部要增加是不是要用核電 |
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核電還是要考慮到那幾個問題是不是要用核電核電其實委員也知道其實就是法令要更改然後再來就是核安的因為你有研發中心又有總部未來在沙崙還要設置那個什麼還要設置超維那未來整體台灣的用電是不是要用核電 |
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核電的問題還是跟委員報告就是要解決一個法令一個是核能安全還有現在核配料的處理以及全民的共識那現在目前來看整個台灣來講它全部全島的電其實是足夠的是沒問題 |
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所以委員剛才提到如果北部現在區域的這個限制的話他就是必須要靠中南部的電送上來他確實是有電網上的限制所以台電為什麼要去做防任的計畫就是希望能夠強化這個電網的韌性這樣子讓能夠北送的還有加上北部區域電網的增加讓北部的電未來會越來越穩當市長要不要核電 |
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這個核電這個這個就是反正你都要你都要退休了這個還是要站在你可以講啊你可以講實話啊這個核電就要依法行政啦因為現在法令是這樣規定再來就剛才講的那200億度的這個gap他去怎麼處理這個就是剛才我們 |
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副總講的就是要透過整個電網的潤性然後來調度還有增加區域性的一個電源這樣來區域性的電源怎麼增加那因為現在我們在談那個4J嘛那這個東西也希望說大家能夠來支持還有啊他說要1萬坪以上的土地對不對那土地這個當然就是要看所有的台灣的土地你最清楚啦可以做工業園區可以做產業園區的土地你最清楚啊台北哪裡有 |
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南港?還是什麼?一濱?一濱可以嗎?不夠?還是可以往上發展啊?是不是?因為它有它的設廠的一個設置的條件對啊,一濱可以往上發展啊,是不是?也不一定,反正只是總部而已啊,對不對?不一定需要很大的基地啊,是不是?一濱有沒有辦法? |
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因為我沒辦法幫他 還是新北這個還是要由公司自己來宣布好 那我們請那個副主委 高副主委喔那個如果啊 就是相關的這些 威達啦 超委啦等等的事的那我們估計 就只有威達而言他就需要2500位的員工那對於這個徵才部分 |
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怎麼樣處理我們台灣大專院校的STEM的人才的培養那有沒有辦法支應這2500位微達喔 這微達就2500位喔那其他的呢 超微或者是台積電等等高科技產業 |
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跟委員報告 其實我們吸引這些國際大廠來台灣設廠其實我們都有同步要求他一定要把招攬他國外的人才的一定的比重我們有要求第二個我們會要求他要訓練附帶訓練我們國內的相關的科技的人才 |
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然後我當然我們也認為其實如果我們當然他某個程度上會排擠我們國內的其他的大廠的人才來運用可是我們會覺得說如果其實這些國際大廠來的話也有助於訓練我們具有國際性的科技人才的效應那我也知道現在我們全力的做纜財包括我們在東南亞我們很多這種產學專班 |
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就是那個應該新型專班其實就是吸引東南亞就是大概是前八百大全球前八百大的學校對我們全力攬柴然後希望他來他也帶人才進來然後同時訓練本國的科技人才也就是說我們還是儘量採多管齊下的方式來從實兼顧科技大廠可以來台我們人才也不會流失的相關的問題 |
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那他大概會做他大概會帶多少的國外人才進來要求他百分之二十二十五就是兩千五百位的百分之二十五那其他的部分就由就是東南亞的或者是我們國內的高科技人才的相關的培訓也要求他要同時提供他訓練我們本國人才的一些相關的規劃我們都有很多方面去要求他 |
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417.324 |
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好 謝謝 趙偉再給我一分鐘我最後問我們李慶華次長謝謝李次長次長 財政部對於我們產創的相關的就是租稅的優惠我們既然要協助產業也要扶植我們國內的相關的產業因應國際的情勢 |
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440.903 |
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為什麼你們都是很保守的就是說抵抗然後好像不積極你看到嗎過去我們在就是說我們對於這個降稅就是當沖降稅有沒有我們看到了我們增加了降稅反而增加了超多的稅收是不是為國家增加超多的稅收而且讓大型的頭顧跟金控在做他們相關的槓桿的時候這就是他們的啊當然 |
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469.745 |
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488.757 |
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我們要避免小型的投資人不需要給他們過度的使用當沖造成他們的投資的風險這個部分我們到底財政部有沒有辦法相關的控管對於產業的租稅優惠有沒有辦法提供 |
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490.177 |
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其實我們這次是積極的配合經濟部研議這個提供租稅優惠的措施這點財政部是在行政院討論過程當中我們都是充分支持的所以你們會充分支持嗎你們不會再過度的保守這個版本就是我們兩個部會大家在行政院充分討論的結果大家提出來一個共識好 謝謝 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2025-01-15T09:48:51.144000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[0].end |
2025-01-15T09:48:56.550000+08:00 |
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謝謝主席，我想要請連次長跟高副主委。 |
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1 |
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主席 |
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2025-01-15T09:48:56.710000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T09:48:58.652000+08:00 |
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請經濟部連次長、國發會高副主委。 |
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0.857 |
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連次長錦漳 |
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2025-01-15T09:48:58.652000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2025-01-15T09:49:01.558500+08:00 |
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委員早。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
高副主任委員仙桂 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2025-01-15T09:49:01.558500+08:00 |
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1 |
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委員早。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2025-01-15T09:49:04.465000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
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2025-01-15T09:49:25.822000+08:00 |
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連次長，我想請問一下，去年台電停掉了桃園以北5MW以上資料中心的申請，因為不要南電北送的緣故，未來輝達如果設總部在臺北的時候，這個怎麼處理？ |
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0.921 |
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連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2025-01-15T09:49:28.030000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2025-01-15T09:49:32.513000+08:00 |
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台電不是說要停掉，那個是說要因地制宜，然後要去做一些調配。 |
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0.885 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2025-01-15T09:49:33.053000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2025-01-15T09:49:36.296000+08:00 |
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對呀，它就說什麼…… |
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0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2025-01-15T09:49:36.296000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2025-01-15T09:49:44.842000+08:00 |
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所以才要要求地方政府如果真的產業要發展、要用電的時候，也可以支持在地有一些電源的設置。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2025-01-15T09:49:47.589000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2025-01-15T09:49:52.293000+08:00 |
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所以如果輝達總部要設在臺北，用電是沒有問題嗎？ |
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0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2025-01-15T09:49:52.293000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2025-01-15T09:49:53.995000+08:00 |
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我們會充分供應。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2025-01-15T09:49:53.995000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2025-01-15T09:49:55.656000+08:00 |
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會充分供應嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2025-01-15T09:49:55.656000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2025-01-15T09:50:12.832000+08:00 |
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但是就算沒有輝達，目前臺北地區的用電供需有高達200億度的gap，對不對？ |
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0.871 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2025-01-15T09:50:12.832000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2025-01-15T09:50:14.293000+08:00 |
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有這樣子的差距耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2025-01-15T09:50:14.433000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2025-01-15T09:50:15.234000+08:00 |
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這怎麼解決？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2025-01-15T09:50:15.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2025-01-15T09:50:17.295000+08:00 |
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所以這個要透過電網的調度。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2025-01-15T09:50:18.276000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2025-01-15T09:50:18.696000+08:00 |
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要怎麼調度？ |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2025-01-15T09:50:19.557000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2025-01-15T09:50:20.597000+08:00 |
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我請台電說明一下。 |
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0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
蔡副總經理志孟 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2025-01-15T09:50:23.199000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T09:50:37.928000+08:00 |
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報告委員，整體來講，現在北部的供電確實是小於需求，也就是用電端比較大，所以如果要解決有兩個方法，一個是區域要平衡，再來要讓北部的電源增加。 |
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0.629 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2025-01-15T09:50:38.648000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2025-01-15T09:50:39.109000+08:00 |
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是不是要用核電？ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
蔡副總經理志孟 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2025-01-15T09:50:41.831000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2025-01-15T09:50:43.452000+08:00 |
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核電還是要考慮到那幾個問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2025-01-15T09:50:43.452000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T09:50:46.534000+08:00 |
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是不是要用核電？ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
蔡副總經理志孟 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2025-01-15T09:50:46.534000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T09:50:51.298000+08:00 |
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關於核電，其實委員也知道就是法令要更改，再來就是核安的…… |
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0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2025-01-15T09:50:51.398000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T09:50:59.083000+08:00 |
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因為你有研發中心，又有總部，未來在沙崙還要設置超微，未來臺灣的整體用電是不是要用核電？ |
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0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
蔡副總經理志孟 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2025-01-15T09:51:08.116000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T09:51:18.447000+08:00 |
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還是要跟委員報告，核電的問題一個是要解決法令，一個是核能安全，還有現在核廢料的處理以及全民的共識。 |
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0.756 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
蔡副總經理志孟 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2025-01-15T09:51:18.907000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T09:51:46.391000+08:00 |
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目前以整個臺灣來看，全島的電其實是足夠的，是沒問題的，所以委員剛才提到北部現在的區域限制，就是必須要靠中南部的電送上來，確實是有電網上的限制，所以台電為什麼要去做強韌計畫，就是希望能夠強化電網的韌性，讓電能夠北送，還有加上北部區域電網的增加，讓未來北部的電會越來越穩當。 |
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0.919 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2025-01-15T09:51:46.871000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2025-01-15T09:51:47.232000+08:00 |
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次長，要不要用核電？ |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2025-01-15T09:51:49.158000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2025-01-15T09:51:50.019000+08:00 |
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核電就是要…… |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2025-01-15T09:51:50.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2025-01-15T09:51:55.984000+08:00 |
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反正你都要退休了，你可以講實話啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2025-01-15T09:51:57.005000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2025-01-15T09:52:01.009000+08:00 |
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沒有，核電還是要依法行政，因為現在法令是這樣規定，再來就是剛才講的…… |
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0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2025-01-15T09:52:01.089000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2025-01-15T09:52:01.469000+08:00 |
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200億度gap差距怎麼處理？ |
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0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2025-01-15T09:52:01.489000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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2025-01-15T09:52:13.418000+08:00 |
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這個就是剛才我們副總講的，要透過整個電網的韌性來調度，還有增加區域性的電源。 |
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0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2025-01-15T09:52:14.319000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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2025-01-15T09:52:15.600000+08:00 |
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區域性的電源怎麼增加？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2025-01-15T09:52:16.161000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2025-01-15T09:52:22.126000+08:00 |
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因為現在我們在談四接，這個部分也希望大家能夠支持。 |
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0.826 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2025-01-15T09:52:22.606000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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2025-01-15T09:52:26.409000+08:00 |
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還有它說要一萬坪以上的土地，對不對？ |
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0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2025-01-15T09:52:26.569000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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2025-01-15T09:52:27.810000+08:00 |
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土地當然就是要看需求。 |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2025-01-15T09:52:28.130000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T09:52:37.519000+08:00 |
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臺灣所有的土地你最清楚，可以作為工業園區、產業園區使用的土地，你最清楚，臺北哪裡有？南港？ |
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0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2025-01-15T09:52:38.860000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2025-01-15T09:52:39.421000+08:00 |
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還是什麼？一殯？ |
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0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2025-01-15T09:52:40.061000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2025-01-15T09:52:42.643000+08:00 |
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一殯，可以嗎？不夠？ |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2025-01-15T09:52:42.643000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2025-01-15T09:52:50.407000+08:00 |
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還是可以往上發展啊，是不是？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2025-01-15T09:52:50.407000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2025-01-15T09:52:51.407000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
因為它有設廠的設置條件。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2025-01-15T09:52:51.407000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2025-01-15T09:52:52.407000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
一殯可以往上發展啊，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.083 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2025-01-15T09:52:52.068000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2025-01-15T09:52:58.172000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
反正只是總部而已，不一定需要很大的基地，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2025-01-15T09:52:58.172000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2025-01-15T09:52:59.172000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
這個就要看輝達的需求。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2025-01-15T09:52:58.792000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2025-01-15T09:52:59.132000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
一殯有沒有辦法？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2025-01-15T09:53:02.328000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2025-01-15T09:53:03.889000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
因為我沒辦法幫它去作決定。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2025-01-15T09:53:04.009000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2025-01-15T09:53:04.390000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
還是新北？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2025-01-15T09:53:05.331000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2025-01-15T09:53:07.192000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
這個還是要由公司自己來宣布。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2025-01-15T09:53:07.432000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2025-01-15T09:53:10.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
好，我們請高副主委。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2025-01-15T09:53:14.058000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2025-01-15T09:53:37.270000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
如果輝達、超微等這些相關公司要來設廠，就輝達而言就需要2,500位員工，對於徵才部分要怎麼樣處理，我們臺灣大專院校的STEM人才培養有沒有辦法支應這2,500位？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2025-01-15T09:53:39.232000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2025-01-15T09:53:44.918000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
只有輝達就需要2,500位，那其他的如超微或台積電等等的高科技產業呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.655 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
高副主任委員仙桂 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2025-01-15T09:53:46.160000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2025-01-15T09:53:58.890000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
跟委員報告，其實我們吸引這些國際大廠來臺灣設廠，都有同步要求它要招攬國外人才一定的比重，我們有要求。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.978 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
高副主任委員仙桂 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2025-01-15T09:53:59.431000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2025-01-15T09:54:24.502000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
第二個，我們會要求它要附帶訓練國內的相關科技人才，當然我們也認為某個程度上會排擠我們國內其他大廠的人才運用，可是我們覺得這些國際大廠來的話也有助於訓練我國具有國際性科技人才的效應。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.977 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
高副主任委員仙桂 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2025-01-15T09:54:25.422000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2025-01-15T09:55:04.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
委員也知道現在我們全力做攬才，包括我們在東南亞有很多產學專班、新型專班，其實就是要吸引東南亞以及全球前800大學校的人才，我們全力攬才，希望它來設廠也帶人才進來，同時訓練本國的科技人才，也就是，我們還是傾向採多管齊下的方式，同時兼顧科技大廠可以來臺，我們人才也不會流失的相關問題，我們會全力來做。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.82 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2025-01-15T09:55:05.006000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2025-01-15T09:55:08.088000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
它大概會帶多少國外人才進來？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
高副主任委員仙桂 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2025-01-15T09:55:08.088000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2025-01-15T09:55:08.268000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
我們要求它25%。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2025-01-15T09:55:11.790000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2025-01-15T09:55:12.991000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
就是2,500位的25%？是的。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2025-01-15T09:55:14.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2025-01-15T09:55:22.997000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
其他的部分就由東南亞或者是我們國內高科技人才的相關培訓。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
高副主任委員仙桂 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2025-01-15T09:55:22.997000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2025-01-15T09:55:33.464000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
對，也要求它要同時提供訓練我們本國人才的一些相關規劃，我們都有很多方面去要求它。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2025-01-15T09:55:33.464000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2025-01-15T09:55:34.405000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
召委，再給我1分鐘。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2025-01-15T09:55:34.665000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2025-01-15T09:55:38.768000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
最後我要問李慶華次長。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2025-01-15T09:55:38.768000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2025-01-15T09:55:41.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
請李次長。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
李次長慶華 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2025-01-15T09:55:41.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2025-01-15T09:55:42.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2025-01-15T09:55:41.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2025-01-15T09:56:01.527000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
次長，財政部對於產創相關的租稅優惠，我們既然要協助產業，也要扶植國內的相關產業因應國際情勢，為什麼你們都是很保守、抵抗，好像也不積極。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.983 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2025-01-15T09:56:01.527000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2025-01-15T09:56:44.737000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
你也看到了，實施當沖降稅反而增加了超多稅收，為國家增加超多的稅收，而且讓大型投顧和金控可以做相關的槓桿運用，當然我們也要避免小型投資人過度使用當沖，造成他們的投資風險，這個部分財政部到底有沒有辦法做到相關的控管，以及對於產業的租稅優惠有沒有辦法提供？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
李次長慶華 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2025-01-15T09:56:46.177000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2025-01-15T09:56:56.183000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
報告委員，其實我們這一次真的是積極配合經濟部研議提供租稅優惠的措施，財政部在行政院討論過程當中都是充分支持的。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.865 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2025-01-15T09:56:56.923000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2025-01-15T09:56:59.345000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
所以你們會充分支持嗎？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2025-01-15T09:56:59.345000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2025-01-15T09:57:00.845000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
你們不會再過度的保守？ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
李次長慶華 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2025-01-15T09:57:01.606000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2025-01-15T09:57:06.368000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
不會，行政院這個版本就是我們兩個部會在行政院充分討論的結果，大家提出來的一個共識。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.842 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2025-01-15T09:57:06.368000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2025-01-15T09:57:06.388000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
李次長慶華 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2025-01-15T09:57:06.888000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2025-01-15T09:57:08.030857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2025-01-15T09:57:08.330857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2025-01-15T09:57:11.473714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
下一位請張啓楷委員質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0 |