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151055 |
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| 日期 |
2024-04-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-22-7 |
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第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
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教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-11T11:48:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-11T11:55:51+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:24 |
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| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:48:27 - 11:55:51 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家科學及技術委員會列席就「國家科技發展策略與布局」進行專題報告，並備質詢。（4月10日及11日二天一次會）） |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：（11時48分）主席、各位委員，有請副主委。 |
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主席（林委員宜瑾）：有請林副主委。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：因為改來改去，國科會又科技部、又國科會。副主委好。 |
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林副主任委員敏聰：委員好。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我們看一下，謝謝還是科技部的時候，針對太空發展法，還有科技部短期科研探空火箭發射場域作業指引，都能夠因應原住民族的需要，包括相關的法令能夠配合來修正，這個要感謝。我們看國科會組織法第二條，對於國家科學發展、技術研究、應用政策還有應用計畫各方面，所以國科會非常的重要。第八條也特別提到因應全球科技快速的發展要怎麼樣去協助，然後你們聘用相關各方面的人才，有給你們很大的空間，不用公務人員的資格就可以聘用，所以要去善用。當然這個AI內閣在520之後，事實上本席針對原住民族的語言，也特別提到族語AI技術系統的研發，我去年就開了兩次協調會，所以未來如果原民會需要你們的協助的話，也請你們協助。 |
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林副主任委員敏聰：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：很重要的，國科會過去比較少被諮詢或是主動去參與，我們看這次0403的地震發生，整個交通我們就講北迴鐵路、蘇花改、蘇花公路有受損的狀況。我們蘇花改是109年1月全線通車，這一次發生地震造成有一些人死亡，或者是造成交通的中斷，主要是在還沒有改善的蘇花公路，蘇花改基本上都OK，沒有問題。 |
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林副主任委員敏聰：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：所以交通的建設透過科技的配合，是可以解決交通的問題，包括人員的安全，但是常常會受到什麼影響呢？就是環保團體的疑慮，他們有很多的疑慮，因為環保的疑慮然後影響了工程的進度。我們看蘇花改在109年1月通車，總共花了9年的時間，從施工到通車花了9年，而蘇花改完成之後，還有一部分是蘇花安，因為它是分段，蘇花改基本上是先做了當時比較危險的地方，比較危險的先做了，也就是比較困難的先做了，那蘇花安應該是比較容易的。但是按照這個期程，要花很長的時間，要花11年，如果按照這個期程的話要花11年，而且還會拖延喔！今年2月20號環境部環評有意見還要補正，比較容易的反而還有意見，我為什麼要在這邊質詢呢？就是請國科會要協助環境部去說明，也是協助公路總局去說明，要說服這些環評的委員。我們看這次北迴鐵路，副主委，包括我們國科會所有的官員，0403發生地震之後停駛、全面檢查，凌晨檢查完畢，OK，完全沒問題，北迴鐵路都沒有問題喔！北迴鐵路什麼時候蓋的？這麼早以前耶，你想想看，1980年正式舉行通車。所以透過這樣的科技發展是可以解決交通問題，而且是安全的，不會受任何風災、地震的影響，從過去到現在再怎麼樣的災害都沒有影響，所以這個部分我們去講無效啦，但是國科會跟環境部、跟這些環評委員去講會有效，可以嗎？ |
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林副主任委員敏聰：是，我們會盡力配合其他各個部會的需求，提供技術…… |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：這個是很重要的，當時只有花6年喔！你想想看1980年代，6年耶！而且是最困難的，它是整條線，等於蘇花安加蘇花改整條線喔！真的是不如啊，好不好？現在竟然不如以前了，我們要加油，要拜託我們國科會協助，謝謝。 |
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林副主任委員敏聰：謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝鄭天財委員，林副請回。 |
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我們接下來請牛煦庭委員。 |
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主席．各位委員．有請副主委．國科會又科技部又國科會． |
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副主委好你好委員好好我們看這個謝謝這個還是科技部的時候針對太空發展法還有科技部短期科研探空火箭發射場域作業的指引都能夠因應原住民族的需要包括相關的法律能夠做配合的來修正 |
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這個要感謝那我們看國科會這個組織法第二條對於國家科學發展技術研究應用政策還有應用的計畫各方面所以國科會非常的重要這個第8條這邊也是特別提到 |
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因應全球科技快速的發展然後怎麼樣去協助然後你們要聘用相關的這些各方面的人才所以給你們很大的空間這個可以用這個不用公務人員的資格就可以聘用所以要去善用 |
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當然這個AI內閣在52年之後事實上本席針對原住民族的語言也特別提到這個AI族語AI技術的系統的研發而我本席在去年就開了兩次協調會所以未來如果人民會有需要或是這個需要你們的協助的話也請你們協助好很重要的這個 |
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國科會過去比較少去這個被諮詢或是主動去參與我們看這個這一次的地震零四零三的地震發生然後這個整個交通我們就講這個北迴鐵路蘇花街蘇花公路 |
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有這樣的一個狀況而我們這個蘇花改蘇花改是109年1月前線通車那這一次發生地震造成相關的這些有一些人的死亡或者是說這些造成交通的中斷主要是在 |
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還沒有改善的蘇花公路還沒有改善的蘇花公路蘇花改基本上都OK沒有問題所以交通的建設透過科技的配合是可以解決交通的快速然後包括人員的安全但是常常會說到什麼呢 |
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委員會委員會主席 |
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蘇花改109年1月通車總共花了9年的時間施工從施工到通車花了9年我們看這個蘇花安現在還沒有蘇花改完成之後還有一部分是蘇花安因為它是分段 |
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蘇花改基本上是先做了比較當時比較危險的地方比較危險的先做了也就是比較困難的先做了那蘇花改應該是比較容易蘇花案應該是比較容易的但是呢按照這個期程要花很長的時間要花11年如果按照這個期程的話要花11年 |
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而且還會拖延今年2月20日環境部環評有意見還要補正比較容易的還有意見這個就是為什麼要在這邊質詢就是要請國科會要去協助環境部然後去說明也是協助 |
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這個公路總局去說明要說服這些環評的人員和環評的這些委員真的是一個我們看北回鐵路這一次北回鐵路副主委包括我們國科會的所有的官員北回鐵路0403 |
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發生事後前面檢查停止前面檢查凌晨檢查完畢OK 完全沒有問題北威鐵路喔都沒有問題喔北威鐵路什麼時候蓋的這麼早以前的你想想看1980年正式舉行通車 |
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所以透過這樣的科技的發展是可以解決交通的問題而且是安全的不會受到任何風災地震的影響從過去到現在再怎麼樣的災害都沒有影響所以這個部分我們去講無效了但是國科會去跟環境部跟這些環評委員去講 |
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會有效,可以嗎?是,我們會盡力配合其他客戶部會的需求提供技術方案。這個是很重要的,當初只有花6年喔!你現在看,1980年代啊!6年了!而且是最困難的,它是整條線喔!等於書啊,加書啊,改啊,整條線喔! |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw |