| IVOD_ID |
17770 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17770 |
| 日期 |
2026-10-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-6-36-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第6會期司法及法制委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
6 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第6會期司法及法制委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-10-22T08:33:38+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-10-22T11:22:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
02:48:22 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/8d241381c4f8c7fc90e2c47cd250ac01144cd8b23c89c68c1f0f14e9ecaf477f1b5d6854d07a75ec5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-10-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第6會期司法及法制委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請銓敘部部長、法務部部長、農業部部長就「公務機關與公務人員於選舉期間違反公務人員行政中立法查辦情形」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【10月21日及22日兩天一次會】） |
| 委員名稱 |
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繼續開會 |
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我先介紹 |
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在場的官員 |
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今天在場的官員 |
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陳旭部部長 施能傑 施部長 |
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1765.31 |
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法規司司長 藍夏瑩 藍司長 |
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1765.84 |
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法務部司政部長請假 黃謀信次長 |
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1769.84 |
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1771.84 |
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謝謝 |
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1772.12 |
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1774.12 |
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檢察司副司長高一書 |
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1774.12 |
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人事處處長林錦惠 |
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1782.01 |
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廉政署署長謝明冠 |
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農業部司部長請假 |
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1785.88 |
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1788.88 |
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政次是黃昭青政次 |
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1792.12 |
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人事處處長吳黎明 |
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1793.89 |
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1795.89 |
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政風處處長彭彥成 |
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1798.31 |
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1801.31 |
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農田水利署署長黃石蔡生甫 |
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1809.35 |
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本日議程排定 |
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1809.35 |
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1811.35 |
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公務機關與公務人員 |
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1813.35 |
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於選舉期間 |
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1815.35 |
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違反公務人員行政中立法 |
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1815.35 |
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1819.35 |
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查辦情形的專題報告及質詢 |
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我想請行政機關 |
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1821.35 |
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1823.35 |
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要就今天的主題來做報告 |
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1825.63 |
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1828.63 |
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首先我們邀請群序部部長 |
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1828.63 |
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1830.63 |
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施能傑部長 |
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1830.72 |
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1831.72 |
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發言時間 |
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1832.41 |
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1834.41 |
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三分鐘 謝謝 |
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1834.55 |
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1836.55 |
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謝謝主席主席還有各位 |
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1836.55 |
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1838.55 |
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各位大家早安 |
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1838.55 |
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1840.55 |
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今天部裡面 |
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1840.55 |
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1842.55 |
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應要來報告有關這個選舉期間 |
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1842.55 |
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1844.55 |
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行政中立法相關的 |
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1846.55 |
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查辦的一個議題 |
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1848.55 |
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行政中立法是 |
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1850.55 |
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訂定文化本部是主管機關 |
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1853.55 |
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那整個行政中立法適用的對象 |
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基本上是公務人員 |
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不管他是任用或派用 |
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或者學校裡面有任用的人 |
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1860.55 |
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當然也有一些準用的對象 |
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1862.55 |
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那整個行政中立法 |
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1864.55 |
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的目的就是要 |
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1864.64 |
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1868.64 |
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禁止公務人員為特定的政黨 |
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1869.01 |
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1871.01 |
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政治團體或公職候選人 |
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1873.01 |
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支持或反對這些人 |
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1873.01 |
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1875.01 |
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做一些不應該做的一個 |
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1877.01 |
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特定的一個政治活動的行為 |
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1877.01 |
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1879.01 |
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這是在法條裡面 |
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1881.01 |
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規範最多的一個地方 |
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1881.01 |
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1883.01 |
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那整個運作狀況是 |
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1883.01 |
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1885.01 |
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本部作為一個主管機關 |
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1885.01 |
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1887.01 |
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所以我們會就法 |
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1889.01 |
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我們訂定法條 |
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1891.01 |
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但是實際上適用個案的時候 |
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1891.01 |
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1893.01 |
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就有全國各機關 |
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1895.01 |
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根據這個法條去認定 |
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1897.01 |
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說有沒有人違反這個個案 |
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1899.01 |
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如果違反的話 |
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1901.01 |
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按照情節應該要怎麼處理 |
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1903.01 |
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這個是整個運作模式 |
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1905.01 |
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當然如果適用法條 |
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1907.01 |
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需要做一些函事 |
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1909.01 |
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本部是做了函事的一個解釋的機關 |
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1911.01 |
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這本部主要執掌就是 |
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1911.01 |
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1913.01 |
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訂定法條跟函事 |
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1915.01 |
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這是我們部裡面的一個職位 |
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1917.01 |
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那行政中立法另外兩個很重要的 |
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1919.01 |
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一個概念是這樣子 |
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1921.01 |
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如果長官只是部署違反 |
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1923.01 |
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這個行政中立法 |
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1925.01 |
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這個長官可能是公務人員 |
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1927.01 |
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或是政務首長 |
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1929.01 |
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當然公務人員就可以向上級長官提起舉法 |
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1931.01 |
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那最後也可以跟監察院做舉法 |
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1933.01 |
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這是法律明定的處理的一個程序 |
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1933.01 |
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1935.01 |
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那整個 |
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1935.01 |
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1937.01 |
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如果對違反的人 |
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1937.01 |
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1939.01 |
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當然就可以做懲處 |
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1939.01 |
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1941.01 |
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或者懲戒或者其他法大用上室友 |
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1941.01 |
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1943.01 |
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這都是法律現行的法律架構 |
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1943.01 |
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1945.01 |
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是這樣規定的 |
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1945.01 |
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1947.01 |
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我想這是主要這樣運作一個狀況 |
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1947.01 |
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1949.01 |
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那本部大概在每一次 |
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1949.01 |
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1951.01 |
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有大選的時候 |
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1951.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1953.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
不管是總統大選或者地方選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
1953.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1955.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
只要中選會公告選舉日開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
1955.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1957.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
我們都會同日 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
1957.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1959.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
向全國各機關發布 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1959.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1961.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
有關提醒他們要注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
1961.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1963.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
行政中立法相關的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1963.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1965.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
所以在今年8月20號 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1965.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
1967.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
我們也通喊全國各機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
1967.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
1969.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
要注意有關行政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
1969.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
1971.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
一些相關的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
1971.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
1973.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
那行政中立法一些具體過去的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
1973.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
1975.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
或者是有一些QA |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
1975.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
1977.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
在本部裡面的網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
1977.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
1979.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
都會提供給大家做參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
1979.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
1981.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
但是有時候我們會接到電話來一個徵詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
1981.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
1983.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
那我想我做以上的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
1984.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
1986.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
1986.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
1990.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
接下來我們請法務部政務次長黃茂信次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
1990.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
1992.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
1991.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
1993.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
三分鐘 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
1995.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
1997.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
主席 各位委員 各位女士 各位先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
1997.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
1999.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
今天奉邀會議會 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
1999.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
2001.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
代表本部做專題報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
2001.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
2003.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
並被質詢 此報告如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
2003.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
2007.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
有關公務員行政中立的相關法規的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
2007.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
2009.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
公務人員行政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
2009.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
2011.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
最主要的規範是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
2011.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
2013.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
公務人員行政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
2013.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
2015.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
依照這個行政中立法的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
2015.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
2017.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
就公務員有關行政中立的行為分際 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
2017.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
2019.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
權力義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
2019.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
2021.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
等相關事項都有明確的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
2021.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
2023.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
可知遵循 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
2023.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
2025.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
另外有關違反行政中立的行政責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
2025.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
2027.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
跟刑事責任的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
2027.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
2029.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
那有關行政責任的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
2029.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
2031.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
我們中立法的第十六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
2031.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
2033.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
已經明白的規定公務員違反本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
2033.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
2035.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
應按照情節的輕重 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
2035.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
2037.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
依公務員懲戒法 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
2037.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
2039.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
考績法及相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
2039.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
2041.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
予以懲戒或懲處 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
2041.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
2043.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
當然其他法律有特別規定的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
2043.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
2045.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
依照其他法律來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
2045.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
2047.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
那刑事責任的部分 我們選罷法第五十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
2047.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
2049.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
規定中央跟地方政府各級機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
2049.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
2051.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
在公職人選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
2051.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
2055.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
競選期間不得從事任何跟競選 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
2055.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
2057.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
宣傳活動有關的事宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
2057.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
2059.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
那同法的一百零四條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
2059.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
2061.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
就違反 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
2061.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
2063.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
他的地方或中央的各級首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
2063.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
2065.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
跟其代理人或受指示之人 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
2065.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
2067.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
他可以處善令以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
2067.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
2069.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
有其徒刑的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
2069.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
2071.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
另外有關於本部 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
2071.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
2075.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
就違反公務員違反行政中立查辦的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
2075.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
2077.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
那本部所屬的連證署 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
2077.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
2079.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
以及相關的法規規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
2079.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
2081.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
就這個行政中立的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
2081.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
2083.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
本部的連證署是 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
2083.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
2085.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
非主責的機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
2085.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
2087.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
非審認的主責機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
2087.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
2089.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
但是各機關如果有相關的疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
2089.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
2091.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
或請我們政風機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
2091.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
2093.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
來協助釐清的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
2093.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
2095.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
在我們的所屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
2095.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
2097.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
連證署政風機構在他的權責範圍內 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
2097.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
2099.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
他可以協助釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
2099.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
2101.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
那另外本部就選務的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
2101.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
2103.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
有關行政中立的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
2103.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
2105.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
那本部除了要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
2105.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
2107.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
前面我所提的連證署 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
2107.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
2109.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
要加強宣導有關選罷法的第五十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
2109.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
2111.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
第一百零四條之一的相關規範之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
2111.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
2113.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
希望這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
2113.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
2115.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
營造相關的公正公開的選舉環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
2115.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
2117.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
另外本部查查彙選的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
2117.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
2119.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
本部跟最高檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
2119.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
2121.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
目前正如我如圖的 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
2121.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
2123.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
在各第一二審的檢察署 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
2123.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2125.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
進行相關的選舉查查 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
2125.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
2127.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
分區座談 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
2127.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
2129.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
那在座談中 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
2129.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
2131.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
我們也充分的要求各查緝機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
2131.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
2133.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
應該要嚴守相關的行政中立的相關規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
2133.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
2135.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
2135.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
2137.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
謝謝各位委員各位先生女士指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
2137.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
2139.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
2139.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
2141.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
接下來請農業部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
2143.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
2145.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
黃昭欽次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
2146.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
2148.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
三分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
2149.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2151.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
主席各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
2151.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
2153.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
今天本部 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
2153.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
2155.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
列席報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
2155.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2157.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
有關於公務機關與公務人員於選舉期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
2157.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
2159.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
違反公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
2159.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
2161.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
行政中立法查辦情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
2161.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2163.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
提出專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
2163.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2165.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
背景說明公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
2165.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2167.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
行政中立 惜維護政府公正 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
2167.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
2169.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
執行職務以及人民信賴的 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
2169.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
2171.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
重要基礎 依公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
2171.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2173.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
行政中立法以下簡稱中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
2173.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2175.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
規定公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
2175.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2177.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
應嚴守行政中立以法公正 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
2177.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2179.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
不得利用職務上的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
2179.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
2181.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
機會或方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
2181.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
2183.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
介入黨派紛爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
2183.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2185.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
製就本部人員適用或准用行政中立法的情形說明如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
2185.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2187.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
一 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
2187.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2189.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
查本部既所屬機關人員組成類別 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
2189.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2191.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
包含依法任用之常務公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
2191.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2193.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
績要人員政務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
2193.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2195.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
依法聘用及僱用人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
2195.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2197.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
繼公公有及約用人員等 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
2197.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2199.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
至各類人員適用行政中立法之情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
2199.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
2201.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
應依行政中立法第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
2201.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2203.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
第17條第18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
2203.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2205.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
2205.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2207.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
案其實際任用或禁用身份認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2207.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2209.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
其中依法任用派用之有己專任人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
2209.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2211.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
系該法適用對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
2211.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2213.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
依法聘用聘僱人員及考試 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2213.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2215.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
錄取人員訓練期間之人員等 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
2215.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2217.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
則依該法規定準用 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2217.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2219.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
至本部既所屬機關政務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2219.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2221.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
繼公公有及約用人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2221.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2223.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
則非屬行政中立法適用及準用對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
2223.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2225.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2225.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2227.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
令本會農田水利署各管理局 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2227.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2229.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
及各管理局 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
2229.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2231.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
及各管理局 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2231.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2233.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
及各管理局 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2233.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2235.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
農田水利署各管理處人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2235.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2237.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
屬農田水利事業人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2237.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2239.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
雖不具一般公務人員身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2239.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2241.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
為為確保取等依法執行職務及 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2241.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2243.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
依法執行職務及 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2244.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2246.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
嚴守行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2246.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2248.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
依農田水利事業人員人事管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2248.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2250.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
辦法第七條第二項規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2250.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2252.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
農田水利事業人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2252.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2254.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
準用行政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2254.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2256.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
違反者因案情節輕重 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2256.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2258.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
依有關法規規定處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2258.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2260.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
本部對行政中立之立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2260.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2262.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
及宣導作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
2262.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2264.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
第一堅守行政中立的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2264.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2266.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
確保依法公正執行職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
2266.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2268.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
本部一項重視行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2268.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2270.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
持續要求本部各單位及所屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2270.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2272.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
機構人員遵守相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2272.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2274.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
不得利用職務職權或行政資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2274.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2276.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
為特定政黨政治團體或公職人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2276.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2278.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
從事法律禁止的政治活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2278.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2280.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
以維護行政機關中立之立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2280.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2282.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
第二強化行政中立宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2282.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2284.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
落實相關法例 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2284.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2286.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
依行政中立法第十三條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2286.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2288.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
各機關首長或主管人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2288.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2290.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
於選舉期 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2290.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2292.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
於選舉委員會發佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2292.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2294.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
選舉日公告期至投票日 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2294.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2296.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
至選舉期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
2296.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2298.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
應遵守禁止政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
2298.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2300.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
活動的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2300.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2302.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
應遵守禁止政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2302.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2304.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
公職候選人及其支持者 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2304.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2306.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
造訪活動及 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2306.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2308.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
張貼競選活動告示等規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2308.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2310.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
本次一百一十五年 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
2310.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2312.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
地方公職人員選舉中央選舉委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
2312.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2314.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
已於八月二十日發佈選舉公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2314.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2316.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
並定於十一月二十八號 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2316.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2318.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
投票本部已於 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2318.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2320.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
一百一十五年八月二十八日 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2320.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2322.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
通函要求各單位及所屬機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
2322.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2324.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
於選舉期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
2324.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2326.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
應各首相關規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2326.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2328.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
注意公共活動是嚴刑奮戟 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
2328.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2330.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
避免引發行政中立之違 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
2330.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2332.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2332.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2334.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
涉及違反行政中立之規定之處理的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2334.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2336.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
則依相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2336.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2338.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
這個規定懲戒來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
2338.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2340.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
那行政中立是維護公務體系的專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2340.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2342.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
公正及人民信賴的重要原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2342.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2344.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
本部將持續要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2344.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2346.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
所屬機關機構相關人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2346.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2348.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
落實行政中立的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2348.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2350.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
透過法律宣導及日常的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
2350.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2352.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
來強化同仁行政中立的意識 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
2352.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2354.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
確保各類政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2354.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2356.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
行政依法公正推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2356.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2358.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
維護政府機關的公信力 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2358.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2360.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2360.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2362.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2395.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2397.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
謝謝主席我們要請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2397.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2399.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
陳旭部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2399.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2401.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
陳旭部部長 施部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2403.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2405.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
部長早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
2405.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2407.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
因為今天要討論的就是行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
2407.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2409.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
那其實我看這兩禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
2409.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2411.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
其實有蠻多國民黨跟民眾黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
2411.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2413.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
都在批評農水署 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2413.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2415.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
針對桃園黃姓候選人 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2415.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2417.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
這個案件來批評說不夠中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
2417.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
2419.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
所以我想今天剛好是一個很好的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
2419.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2421.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
來跟部長請教這個題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2421.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2423.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
所以就是說在那個參議 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
2423.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2425.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
參會上面最爭議的事件就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
2425.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2427.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
處長帶頭喊著這個當選的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
2427.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
2429.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
是不是有違反行政中立的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
2429.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
2431.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
針對有違法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
2431.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
2433.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
所以我剛剛跟部長說已經就是立案調查了 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
2433.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
2435.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
所以我想我們今天就不討論個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
2435.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
2437.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
但我今天想請教一下部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
2437.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
2439.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
就是正根據幾個案例來跟部長討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
2439.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
2441.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
第一個就是2023年 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
2441.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
2443.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
蔡壁如穿著競選立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
2443.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
2445.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
參選人的背心 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
2445.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
2447.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
出席台中順天國中動土典禮 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
2447.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
2449.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
並質疑說是行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
2449.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
2451.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
但是當時台中市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
2451.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
2453.62 |
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是以上位公告為候選人 |
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說這也還不是競選期間來回應 |
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那再來第二個案例看左邊 |
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這個是洪秀柱 |
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在2015年到苗栗的竹南國小 |
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參訪營養午餐 |
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被質疑說違反行政中立 |
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那當時的教育部長是說 |
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吳思華是說洪秀柱還沒有登記 |
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所以在法律上還不是正式參選候選人 |
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並表示向中選會 |
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釐清認定標準 |
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所以前兩個案例 |
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我們行政機關都是說 |
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還沒有公告還沒有登記 |
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所以我們要回應行政中立的爭議 |
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那我想請教 |
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就是說到底在什麼時間點 |
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才算是法律上的公職候選人呢 |
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根據我們在這個選舉部之前 |
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在99年發的這個 |
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這個函事裡面就有講到說 |
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先確認當事人的法律身分 |
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再判斷相關的限制是否適用 |
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所以我想問的是 |
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當初的規範跟函事的意指是什麼 |
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因為我的理解是 |
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在這個函事裡面指出 |
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你參選人登記為公職候選人之前 |
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公務人員為其站台遊行敗票 |
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原則上是不受公務人員行政中立法第六條 |
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第一項第六款的限制 |
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所以當時做這份 |
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函事的考量是什麼 |
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不曉得是不是可以請部長幫我們簡單說明一下 |
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那為什麼會以登記作為界線 |
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那這份函事還適用嗎 |
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我跟委員報告 |
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登記公職候選人的定義是 |
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是由在行政中立法明文規定 |
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就是說中選會公告選舉期間開始到結束這中間 |
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才開始適用行政中立法的一個相關的規定 |
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這是在第13條規定 |
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所以在這之前可能因為你還沒有公告你成為政事候選人之前 |
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我們都稱他叫你參選人 |
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這並不是一個概念 |
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不過真正嚴格限制公務人員 |
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支持或者反對或者動用行政政策 |
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2584.85 |
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這些東西大概都是在以公職候選人的身份確立之後 |
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所以機關在判斷相關限制是否適用的時候 |
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都要先去查明當時在發生的時間是什麼時候 |
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是不是已經是所謂的公職候選人了對不對 |
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那這個應該選委會都會公告 |
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這個應該是很快就知道 |
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選委會公告時間都會很清楚的說明 |
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好那我想這個具體來說 |
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我們剛剛部長解釋的非常清楚 |
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就是依法有一個相關的法令跟函事去規定了 |
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到底什麼時候開始去界定 |
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那我也想要請教一下 |
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因為在我們裡面還有講到說 |
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盡量這個函事裡面有講到 |
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為人以盡量避免為宜 |
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那我想確定一下這個是提醒公務人員審慎行事 |
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還是說這個具有禁止及懲處的效果呢 |
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如果說機關認為應該要予以懲處 |
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是否需要指出具體違反是哪一項規定 |
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有哪些事實跟證據 |
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應該是不能夠以觀感不好就做來懲處的依據吧 |
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應該這樣講我們行政中立法明文規定是法律禁止的行為 |
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那即使法律不禁止 |
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當然因為越靠近選舉 |
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因為我們根據行政中立法當初立法的精神 |
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就希望公務機關不要介入這些相關的政黨 |
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或者是公職候選人參議員 |
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所以即使大家都應該有另外一個自己的判斷 |
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所以我們才會說 |
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我們要提醒說盡量避免啦 |
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至於盡量避免這個並不是法律上的一個要求 |
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所以我想就很難構成 |
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接下來一定要懲處的一個方式 |
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但是它是一個法律道德的一個 |
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回到整個國家要往前走 |
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不過我還是要提醒 |
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我們在看待這些事情的時候 |
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除了行政中立法以外 |
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我們在非選舉期間 |
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就是非法定公告的選舉期間 |
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我們還是有服務法的一些相關的一些條文 |
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希望我們應該公務員應該注意到 |
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服務法的一些相關的一些規定 |
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了解喔 |
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那我想今天就是說 |
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因為公務員下班之後 |
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他也還是一個有投票資格的國民嘛 |
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他們還是有權力去表達他們要支持哪位候選人 |
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但是就是向部長的提醒啦 |
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我們還是要謹記行政中立的原則嘛 |
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所以我想今天也非常高興 |
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我們排在這個題目 |
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讓全序部可以來把這個相關的規範來說清楚 |
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那我想要再請教一下 |
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因為我們剛剛講行政中立 |
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主要是規範我們的公職人員對不對 |
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我們的機關、主管機關 |
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各個轄下的地方政府 |
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只要有公職身份的都應該要符合行政中立嘛 |
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2731.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
2732.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
2732.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
2735.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
規範公務人員要準用這個法律的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
2735.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
2736.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
對準用人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
2736.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
2737.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
那我想問一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
2737.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
2740.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
就是說我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
2740.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
2741.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
2741.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
2742.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
2742.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
2743.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
2743.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
2744.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
2744.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
2745.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
2745.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
2746.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
2746.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
2747.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
2747.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
2748.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
2748.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
2749.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
2749.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
2750.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
2750.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
2751.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
2751.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
2752.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
2752.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
2753.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
2753.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
2754.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
2754.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
2755.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
2755.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
2756.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
2756.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
2757.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
2757.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
2758.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
2758.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
2759.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
2759.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
2760.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
我今天早上看到一個劇團 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
2740.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
2742.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
這個劇團他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
2742.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
2744.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
排了 辦了一個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
2744.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
2746.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
那辦了一個活動之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
2746.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
2748.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
有民眾就自己在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
2748.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
2751.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
他們的這個辦公室這邊呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
2751.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
2752.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
貼了一個洋 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
2752.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
2753.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
他們有做一個留言板 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
2753.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
2754.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
對不起 留言板上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
2754.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
2756.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
就貼了一個洋流貼紙 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
2756.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
2757.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
2757.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
2759.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
他們就對台北市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
2759.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
2761.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
提醒說要行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
2762.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
2765.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
阿劇團是屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
2766.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
2768.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
第一個劇團屬於嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
2768.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
2770.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
選民 這些市民的身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
2770.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
2772.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
屬於行政中立的規範嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
2772.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
2774.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
他並不是行政中立的 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
2774.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
2776.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
收入法的適用對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
2776.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
2778.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
如果他不是公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
2779.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
2781.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
對 因為他們是劇團耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
2781.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
2783.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
劇團到底是 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
2792.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
2794.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
這是屬於行政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
2794.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
2795.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
剛剛所界定的範圍 |
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2795.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
2796.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
適用的範圍嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
2796.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
2798.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
我們行政中立法只界定 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
2798.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
2800.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
就對公務人員跟準用公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
2800.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
2801.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
做限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
2801.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
2803.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
而且是在政府的機關場所 |
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2803.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
2805.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
裡面你不可以張貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
2805.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
2806.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
如果選舉期間呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
2806.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
2807.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
你就不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
2807.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
2808.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
正是那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
2808.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
2810.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
所以你不可以張貼那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
2810.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
2812.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
相關的選舉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
2812.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
2813.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
相關的告示啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
2813.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
2815.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
各式各樣的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
2815.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
2817.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
對 好 我想這個應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
2817.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
2819.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
所有公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
2819.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
2820.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
即便是像我自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
2820.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
2821.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
可能之前有過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
2821.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
2823.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
跟各個縣市政府合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
2823.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
2825.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
如果我們今天有合作的一些案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
2825.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
2826.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
我們今天都了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
2827.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
2828.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
大家應該都有一個基礎的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
2828.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
2831.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
我們規定的其實是公務機關嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
2831.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
2832.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
2832.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
2834.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
這個提醒真的是太荒謬了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
2834.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
2836.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
我說我也希望今天台北市政府文化局 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
2836.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
2837.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
看完這個質詢之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
2837.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
2839.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
可以趕快去撤銷自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
2839.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
2840.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
對人家的提醒啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
2840.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
2841.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
因為這真的是太荒謬了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
2841.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
2842.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
2842.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
2843.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
好 那再來下一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
2843.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
2844.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
就是針對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
2845.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
2847.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
我們這個公務員容易違反的行為呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
2847.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
2850.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
其實全序部有做一個整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
2850.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
2852.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
那這個也是我們針對於你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
2852.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
2853.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
現在最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
2855.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
2856.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
這個公務人員容易違反的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
2856.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
2857.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
做了一個簡要的整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
2857.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
2860.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
但是其實他並沒有相關的統計分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
2860.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
2862.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
他比較是透過全序部的案例和網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
2862.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
2865.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
向公務人員討論的情節 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
2865.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
2867.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
來去做整理出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
2867.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
2869.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
那我想問一個問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
2869.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
2871.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
因為我們過去就是把行為直接整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
2871.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
2873.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
然後放了一大本 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
2873.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
2875.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
但是我認為這個可能對於吸收 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
2875.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
2876.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
公務人員在吸收 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
2876.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
2878.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
因為公務人員都非常非常的忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
2878.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
2879.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
他就吸收說 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
2879.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
2881.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
這條路這個可能是有問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
2881.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
2882.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
這個可能是有問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
2882.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
2883.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
這樣子的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
2883.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
2885.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
其實對他們來說不是很容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
2885.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
2886.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
所以我只是想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
2886.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
2888.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
我們是不是可以針對就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
2888.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
2889.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
因為你們已經有這麼多年的資料了 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
2889.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
2892.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
統計出來哪些是最常見的 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
2892.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
2894.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
那第一常見的 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
2894.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
2895.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
第二常見的 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
2895.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
2896.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
第三常見的幫他分群這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
2896.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
2898.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
那至少可以在最常見的那幾個犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
2898.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
2900.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
就是樣態裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
2900.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
2901.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
我們不要犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
2901.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
2902.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
我們不要違法嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
2902.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
2904.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
可以保護我們的公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
2904.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
2906.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
所以我們是不是可以做這樣子的整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
2906.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
2907.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
2907.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
2908.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
第二個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
2908.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
2910.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
有一些案例已經超過五年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
2910.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
2913.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
有一些QA也都是用文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
2913.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
2915.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
那我們現在其實都有在導入AI |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
2915.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
2917.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
我們是不是可以透過AI |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
2917.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
2919.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
來把它做一個整理更新 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
2919.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
2921.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
然後讓他用更現代的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
2921.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
2922.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
更清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
2922.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
2924.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
清晰明瞭的方式來呈現 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
2924.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
2925.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
2925.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
2926.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
2926.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
2928.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
我們部裡面整理的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
2928.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
2929.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
應該都是很常見 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
2929.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
2931.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
不管他是以前到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
2931.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
2932.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
但是實際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
2932.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
2935.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
真正做很多教材訓練是保訓會做 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
2935.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
2937.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
所以保訓會每年都會做 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
2937.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
2939.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
各式各樣的教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
2939.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
2940.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
包括可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
2940.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
2942.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
我理解可能隨著現代的一個技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
2942.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
2944.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
他會越來越用生動的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
2944.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
2946.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
去讓公務人員來上網 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
2946.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
2948.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
去了解什麼東西會違反刑事重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
2948.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
2950.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
事實上保訓會負責這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
2950.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
2951.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
他們應該有在做啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
2951.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
2953.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
那不過這個提醒也很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
2953.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
2954.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
我再回去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
2954.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
2957.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
看看實際上狀況是怎麼樣的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
2957.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
2958.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
2958.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
2959.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
2959.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
2960.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
我想今天部長的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
2960.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
2962.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
我就是再強調一次重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
2962.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
2964.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
我也希望所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
2964.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
2965.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
大家都可以一起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
2965.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
2966.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
記得這個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
2966.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
2968.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
就是行政重力法的規範範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
2968.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
2970.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
是針對於公職候選人 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
2970.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
2971.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
2971.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
2972.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
公務機關對不起公務機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
2972.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
2974.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
然後我們要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
2974.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
2977.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
要去什麼檢視他的行為的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
2977.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
2980.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
是他必須去確認在法律上 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
2980.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
2982.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
定義是公職候選人 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
2982.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
2984.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
而不是媒體說的一個公職候選人 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
2984.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
2986.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
就可以開始來質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
2986.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
2987.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
2987.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
2988.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
2990.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
2992.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
好謝謝張委員謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3004.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3008.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
好接下來我們有請陳昭之張委來進行諮詢謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
3012.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3013.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
3013.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
3015.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
我先請這個法務部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3017.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
3019.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
好有請黃市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3021.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3023.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
我想好謝謝次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3023.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3024.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
我想先請您澄清一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
3024.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3025.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
昨天的這個質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
3025.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3027.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
大家都關注到一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
3027.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3029.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
就是涉毒的這個檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
3029.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3031.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
一個非常重的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
3031.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3033.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
大概很多個立委都提出質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
3033.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3035.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
但是因為答案不一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
3035.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3039.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
我今天要你跟全國人民公開說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3039.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3041.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
這位涉毒的檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
3041.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3044.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
有沒有辦過毒品犯相關的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3045.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3047.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3048.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3050.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
他本身在這五年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
3050.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3052.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
他的確不是毒品專屬的檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
3052.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
3054.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
但是因為我們毒品案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
3054.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
3056.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
有分為一般的製造運輸販賣 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
3056.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3058.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
他有沒有辦過毒品相關的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
3058.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
3060.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
那這五年內因為毒品案件非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
3060.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
3062.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
所以私用毒品的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
3062.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3064.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
全國各地醫療每個檢察官幾乎都會分過 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
3064.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
3066.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
都會辦過這種案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
3066.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
3070.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
都會辦過昨天部長請你回去教育一下部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3070.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
3072.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
部長跟我說他在民生組 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
3072.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3074.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
我還問他說排除的了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
3074.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
3076.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
他說可以就是麻煩你告訴部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
3076.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
3080.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
告訴全國人民說這個涉毒的這位檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
3080.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
3083.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
事實上是辦過毒品相關案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3083.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3084.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
我這樣講有錯嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
3084.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3086.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
毒品案件如果包括私用毒品案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3086.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3087.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
他辦過 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
3087.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3089.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
好謝謝次長請回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
3089.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3091.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
有請農業部的黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
3099.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3099.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
3100.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3101.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
早 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
3101.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3103.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
我手邊這邊資料是農業部核定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
3103.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3106.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
今天早上這邊這一份書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
3106.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3107.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
是農業部核定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
3107.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3109.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
那我看了很不滿意 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3109.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
3111.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
因為這個農水署官員在農水署的 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
3111.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3113.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
這個舉辦的活動上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3113.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3114.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
高喊黃氏節動算 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
3114.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3117.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
還把光油土地給他使用跟造勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
3117.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3121.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
昨天侯孟凱委員也完整的放了一段影音 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3121.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3123.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
那請問今天的書面報告中 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3123.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3126.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
對於這件事情隻字不提 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3126.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3128.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
我想我們在做這個專報的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3128.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3131.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
目的不是請各位官員來念法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3132.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3134.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
我們一定是有一些疑問質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
3134.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3136.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
要替很多人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
3136.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3138.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
或是要提出這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
3139.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3140.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
3140.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3141.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
3141.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
3142.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
我請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
3144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
3146.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
次長您要先了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
3146.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
3147.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
你們今天隻字不提 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
3147.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
3149.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
整個報告隻字不提 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
3149.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
3152.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
你要記住今天的專題報告是指什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
3152.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
3153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
3153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
3155.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
我不是要知道你們訂的法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
3155.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
3157.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
我是要知道你們做的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
3157.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
3160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
好次長我想請教黃氏節的爸爸 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
3160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
3162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
黃經德過去長期擔任 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
3162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
3164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
桃園農田水利會總幹事 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
3164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
3165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
109年擔任 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
3165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
3169.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
桃園農田水利研究發展基金會的秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
3169.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
3170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
然後5年後他升任董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
3170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
3172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
我查了農業部的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
3172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
3174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
根據115年度的這個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
3174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
3176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
預算書這個基金會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
3176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
3180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
基金總額高達5億650萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
3180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
3184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
而農業部在113年的這個行政監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
3184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
3186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
實地查核報告明確的記載 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
3186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
3189.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
政府捐助比例高達百分之百 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
3191.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
3193.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
主管機關就是農業部農田水利署 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
3193.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
3194.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
所以次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
3194.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
3196.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
這不是皇家的這個私人基金會喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
3196.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
3198.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
這個是具有政府捐助背景 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
3198.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
3201.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
必須受到農業部監督的財政法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
3201.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
3204.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
那黃經德在這個桃園農田水利體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
3204.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
3205.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
經營這麼多年 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
3205.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
3207.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
他兒子要參選這個桃園市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
3207.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
3208.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
3209.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
3212.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
農水署是依法行政的公務體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
3212.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
3214.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
還是讓特定政治人物 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
3214.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
3215.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
家族可以運用人脈的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
3215.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
3217.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
我現在請教次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
3217.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
3219.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
農業部究竟有沒有採取 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
3219.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
3220.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
任何具體措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
3220.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
3221.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
每一個人的報告都說 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
3221.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
3223.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
我們要遵守行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
3223.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
3225.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
你究竟有沒有採取 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
3225.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
3226.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
任何具體的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
3226.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
3228.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
防止政府捐助的基金會及 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
3228.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
3230.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
農水署行政資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
3230.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
3232.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
因為政治人物家族的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
3232.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
3235.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
會被不當運用在這個選舉上 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
3235.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
3237.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
有沒有任何這個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
3237.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
3239.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
跟主席報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
3239.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
3240.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
跟這個委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
3240.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
3242.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
第一個這個基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
3242.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
3245.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
它是屬於這個公社的財團法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
3245.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
3246.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
我們很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
3246.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
3248.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
剛剛我已經提到背景了 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
3248.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
3251.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
基本上他的這個董事會的這個組成 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
3251.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
3254.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
還有董事長的常務董事的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
3254.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
3256.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
也都是透過選舉出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
3256.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
3258.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
那所以基本上這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
3258.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
3259.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
你認為透過選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
3259.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
3261.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
所以它有這樣的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
3261.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
3262.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
基本上我們在本部 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
3262.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
3264.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
在這個農水署的這個督導之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
3264.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
3267.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
對於所屬的這些財團法人也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
3267.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
3268.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
基金委也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
3268.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
3271.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
也都是有去發文 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
3271.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
3273.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
去要求他們去做這個行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
3273.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
3275.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
相關的這樣的一個動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
3275.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
3276.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
市長你就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
3276.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3279.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
你們有在防止這個假公濟私 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
3279.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
3280.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
我們剛剛談到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
3280.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
3282.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
黃世傑爸爸黃金德 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
3282.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
3284.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
長期是桃園農田水利體系服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
3284.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3285.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
那我們來看看發生什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
3285.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
3286.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
今年10月3號 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
3288 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3291 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
黃世傑舉辦這個競選總部成立單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
3291 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3293 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
連賴總統卓院長都出席了 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
3293 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
3294 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
到場站台喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
3294 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3296 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
結果這個造勢活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
3296 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
3297 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
他用的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
3297 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
3300 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
就是農水署石門管理處 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
3300 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3302 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
管理的公有土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
3302 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
3303 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
市長這塊土地是位在 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
3303 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3306 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
桃園市中壢區中壢段145地 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
3306 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
3309 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
面積高達1655平 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
3309 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
3310 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
租了兩天 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
3310 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3312 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
租金是81700元 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
3312 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3314 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
根據農水署你們自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
3314 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3315 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
10月13號新聞說 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
3315 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3316 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
一切依法辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
3316 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3319 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
符合年租金未達15萬的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
3319 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3320 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
所以可以直接出租 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3320 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3321 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
奇怪了耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
3321 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3324 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
市長農田水利非市業用 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
3324 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3327 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
不動產活化收益辦法第19條 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
3327 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3328 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
第19條 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
3328 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3329 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
白紙黑字寫的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
3329 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3331 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
年租金未達15萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
3331 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3334 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
不是兩天租金未達15萬元吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
3335.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3337.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
年租金未達15萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
3337.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3338.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
這個小學生都看得懂了 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
3338.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3340.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
自然年租金未達15萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
3341.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3343.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
不是兩天租金未達15萬元吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3343.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3345.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
按照你們農水署自己公布的 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
3345.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3349.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
申報地價跟6%的租率來計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
3349.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3351.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
這塊土地換算全年的租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
3351.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3354.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
高達1490萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
3354.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3355.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
所以我想請教你 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3357.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3359.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
租金能到兩天計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
3359.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3361.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
符不符合年租金15萬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3361.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3364.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
淨女出租條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3365.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3366.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
是兩碼市吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3366.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3368.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
是不是兩碼市呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3368.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3369.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3369.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3370.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
第一個這個土地呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3370.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3372.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
是今年4月份 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3372.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3375.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
才從桃園市政府這邊移轉過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3375.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3377.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
那在我們農水署 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
3377.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3379.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
在接收到這個土地之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
3379.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3381.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
事實上它是有一個委託計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3381.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3383.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
未來要規劃作為長遠租約的 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3383.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3385.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
這個前置的這些工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3385.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3386.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
沒有 市長請你回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3386.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3387.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
我剛剛很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3387.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3390.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
我們這個農水署在所有的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3390.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3393.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
我們都希望把這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3393.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3395.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
我們的所有的這個用地 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3395.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3396.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
可以盡量的活化 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3396.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3398.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
那但是不是所有的用地 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3398.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3399.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
都可以順利的 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3399.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3400.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
市長你在浪費我的質詢時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3400.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3402.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
順利的承租啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3402.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3404.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
所以基本上也有那種短租的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3404.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3406.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
年租金未達15萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3406.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3409.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
才可以進制出租啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3409.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3410.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
你這個年租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3410.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3412.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
事實上你算起來是1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3413.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3415.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
但是它並沒有要出一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3415.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3416.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
1500萬啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3416.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3417.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
但是它並沒有要出一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3417.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3420.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
所以基本上對於這種短租的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3420.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3423.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
當時候這個處理面的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3423.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3425.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
他是以這個365天來 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3425.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3426.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
那我問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3426.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3427.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
那是不是高價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3427.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3429.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
全台灣高價值的公有土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3429.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3430.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
都可以用相同的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3430.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3434.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
我們還是希望規劃以長期租約為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3434.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3435.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
那但是在租約 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3435.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3437.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
市長是你在解釋這個法規嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3437.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3439.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
是部長在解釋這個法規嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3439.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3441.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
是誰在解釋這個法令呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3444.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3445.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
你想解釋嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3445.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3447.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
明明規範很清楚啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3448.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3451.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
年租金未達15萬才得這個進制出租啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3451.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3453.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
其他要公開交標啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3453.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3457.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
這個部分是我們這個處理面的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3457.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3458.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
它是兩天未達15萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3458.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3459.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
所以想辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3459.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3460.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
現在兩天沒有達15萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3460.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3461.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
幾天沒有達15萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3461.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3463.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
啊就躲過了就模糊 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3463.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3464.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
含糊帶過了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3466 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3470 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
委員說的這個部分應該是我們的那個原則吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3471.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3472.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
跟委員補充報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3472.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3474.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
那因為在過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3474.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3477.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
這個大部分農田水利署各管理處 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3477.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3480.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
就是十年以下都自有各管理處在做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3480.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3482.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
那的確像委員您說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3482.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3485.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
大部分都是處於這個年租是比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
3485.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3487.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
不過在極少數的個案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3487.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3488.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
的確也有一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
3488.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3490.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
年租也是你們寫的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
3490.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3492.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
年租也是你們寫的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
3492.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3493.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
小學都看得懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
3493.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3495.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
因為大部分的案子的確都是年租 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3495.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3497.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
市長署長您是署長嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3497.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3498.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
我更質疑的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3498.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3499.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
還有農水署 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3499.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3502.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
有農水署10月16日發新聞稿強調有辦理現地會刊喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3503.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3505.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
也經過這個租金查定小組委員審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3505.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3507.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
但媒體報導9月11號 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3507.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3509.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
9月21日辦理會刊喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3509.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3511.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
不到兩天 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3511.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3513.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
就回文合訂租金81700次漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3515.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3517.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
租金查定小組哪一天開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3518.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3520.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
哪些委員參加審查的什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3521.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3523.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
那更重要的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3524.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3526.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
誰是申請人 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3525.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3527.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
誰是申請人 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3527.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3529.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
可以先回答我這幾件事嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3529.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3531.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
這都發生過啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3531.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3533.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
哪一天開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3533.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3535.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
哪些委員參加審查的什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3535.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
3537.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
誰是申請人 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
3535.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
3537.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
3537.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
3539.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
這個個案是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
3539.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
3541.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
因為委員關心之後我們就去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
3541.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
3543.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
那在9月18號 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
3543.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
3545.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
申請人是在9月18號提出申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
3545.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
3547.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
那麼依照石門管理處 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
3547.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
3549.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
申請人是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
3549.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
3551.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
3551.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
3553.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
因為這個有 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
3553.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
3555.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
這有個資問題嗎這國家的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
3555.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
3557.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
我們不能知道申請誰是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
3557.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
3559.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
申請人是誰嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
3559.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
3561.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
因為現在農水署各管理處的 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
3561.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
3563.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
講不出來就是不能講嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
3562.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
3564.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
那他是9月18號申請之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
3564.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
3566.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
3566.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
3568.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
9月21號去辦限定會刊 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
3568.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
3570.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
兩天後就核准了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
3570.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
3572.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
然後限定會刊完了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
3572.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
3574.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
那麼經過他們石門管理處的 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
3574.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
3576.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
這個審查委員他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
3576.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
3578.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
會審之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
3578.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
3580.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
書面會審之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
3580.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
3582.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
就在9月23號做成這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
3582.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
3584.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
一個交換來繳費 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
3584.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
3586.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
不是說今天你說了算啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
3586.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
3588.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
我請次長直接回答我這筆土地是誰提出申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
3588.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
3590.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
黃金德有沒有參與會刊跟協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
3590.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
3592.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
任何一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
3592.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
3594.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
甚至向這個農水署提出要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
3594.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
3596.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
因為如果黃金德 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
3596.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
3598.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
確實參與的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
3598.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
3600.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
那農業部會不會有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
3600.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
3602.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
有沒有去調查相關人會不會受到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
3602.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
3604.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
不當的請託或壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
3604.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
3606.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
有沒有檢視利益回避的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
3606.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
3608.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
農水署說任何人 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
3608.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
3610.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
都可以提出申請全部採樣標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
3610.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
3612.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
請問次長那我來請問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
3612.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
3614.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
過去有多少一般民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
3614.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
3616.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
可以用相同的條件相同的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
3616.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
3618.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
這麼短的時間兩天 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
3618.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
3620.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
可以成功完成這個土地的承租 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
3620.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
3622.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
真的是誰來都可以跟你們租嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
3622.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
3624.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
都會被許可嗎是這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
3624.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
3626.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
次長那個或是這個農水署來回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
3628.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
3630.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
大家都可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
3630.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
3632.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
有過嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
3633.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
3635.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
就是像這些短租的這個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
3635.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
3637.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
或者是長租事實上很多民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
3637.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
3639.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
其實絕大部分都 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
3639.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
3641.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
有過對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
3641.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
3643.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
農水署不能只發信息 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
3643.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
3645.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
說我們依法辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
3645.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
3647.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
這對我們是不夠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
3647.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
3649.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
我現在要求農業部請你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
3649.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
3651.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
認真聽好 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
3651.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
3653.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
把本案的申請書 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
3653.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
3655.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
會刊記錄委員名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
3655.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
3657.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
會議記錄核准簽成及 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
3657.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
3659.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
租賃契約以及你們說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
3659.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
3661.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
別的民眾也用過 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
3661.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
3663.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
以及近三人用相同的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
3663.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
3665.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
出租的案例提供給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
3666.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
3668.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
可以嗎 我要這些資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
3668.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
3670.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
我們有資格要這些資料吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
3670.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
3672.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
我們就這個可以提供給你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
3672.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
3674.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
還有你說別人也可以用嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
3674.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
3676.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
那我要一起看嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
3676.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
3678.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
什麼時候給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
3678.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
3680.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
這個都發生過的事啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
3680.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
3682.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
你既然說以前有過啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
3682.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
3684.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
然後這件事也發生過啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
3684.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
3686.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
什麼時候給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
3686.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
3688.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
我們依程序來簽辦提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
3688.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
3690.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
3686.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
3688.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
兩個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
3688.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
3690.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
已經都發生過的東西啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
3690.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
3692.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
這不是未來 兩個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
3692.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
3694.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
需要到兩個禮拜嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
3694.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
3696.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
可是你核准就還兩天而已啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
3696.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
3698.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
我不要兩天內給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
3698.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
3700.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
你核准一個案子開會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
3700.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
3702.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
討論兩天就可以完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
3702.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
3704.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
核准 為什麼你給我要 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
3704.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
3706.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
兩個週呢 兩星期呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
3706.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
3708.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
那跟委員說我們下個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
3708.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
3710.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
一個禮拜提供好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
3710.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
3712.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
這個連假過後就馬上給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
3712.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
3714.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
禮拜二我需要這個資料 好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
3714.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
3716.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
好 那請法務部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
3716.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
3718.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
次長 我一邊講 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
3718.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
3720.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
為什麼有人發帽子 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
3720.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
3722.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
關廟面就被抓了 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
3722.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
3724.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
農水署自己活動發三百塊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
3724.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
3726.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
這個雞蛋幫黃旭捷服選不算會選 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
3726.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
3728.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
難道是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
3728.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
3730.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
黃旭捷擔任過法務部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
3730.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
3732.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
底下檢察官不敢辦嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
3733.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
3735.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
我和你的懷疑啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
3735.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
3737.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
這案子都已經分案偵辦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
3737.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
3739.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
都在偵辦中了 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
3739.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
3741.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
是他自案還是曾自案 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
3741.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
3743.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
他自案都在偵辦中 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
3743.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
3745.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
他自案也可以簽結對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
3745.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
3747.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
不不不 他自案他簽結 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
3747.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
3749.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
一定有我們法律上的事由才可以簽結 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
3749.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
3751.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
什麼事會出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
3751.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
3753.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
這麼敏感的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
3753.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
3755.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
每個個案都不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
3755.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
3757.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
我們沒有辦法預判他什麼時候可以簽結 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
3757.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
3759.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
好 資料出來就立刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
3759.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
3761.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
麻煩交給我辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
3761.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
3763.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
這件事事關重大 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
3763.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
3765.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
好 那再請農業部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
3765.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
3767.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
針對需要公開標註的國有土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
3767.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
3769.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
盡自出租 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
3769.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
3771.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
農水署署長明知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
3771.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
3773.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
是違法還要凹 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
3774.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
3776.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
我們今天的主題是公務人員行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
3778.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
3780.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
請問農水署我舉的例子這麼清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
3780.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
3782.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
昨天也有人放影音 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
3783.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
3785.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
有沒有違反行政中立呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
3786.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
3788.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
這樣沒有違反行政中立嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
3788.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
3790.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
3790.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
3794.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
第一個在他這個舉辦的這個活動的日期來說的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
3794.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
3798.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
那在他並非在這個公告日的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
3798.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
3800.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
他是在公告日之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
3800.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
3804.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
請稍等 你們剛剛今天大概想盡辦法就凹出了一個日期 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
3806.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
3808.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
情理法還有倫理 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
3808.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
3810.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
你 總坦跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
3810.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
3812.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
行政院長都到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
3812.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
3814.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
那個是他 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
3814.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
3816.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
那個是他選舉造勢的日期 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
3816.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
3818.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
跟我們管理處的那個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
3818.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
3820.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
昨天播放的是我們那個管理處的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
3820.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
3822.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
管理處的 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
3822.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
3824.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
然後他進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
3824.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
3826.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
你現在跟我凹一個日期 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
3826.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
3828.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
你們什麼時候知道黃市這個次長是要去競選 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
3828.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
3830.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
去要競選桃園市市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
3830.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
3832.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
他不是因此離職嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
3832.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
3834.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
我不瞭解 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
3834.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
3836.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
你們現在在玩文字遊戲 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
3836.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
3838.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
情理法的你讓全國人民看聽不聽得下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
3840.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
3842.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
法律沒有倫理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
3842.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
3844.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
沒有道德標準嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
3844.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
3846.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
沒有理跟情嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
3846.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
3848.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
他不足以影響嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
3848.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
3850.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
這種會選 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
3851.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
3855.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
改變選舉全人的意志足以影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
3855.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
3857.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
你覺得沒有問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
3857.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
3859.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
我之前也在這個民間的團體裡面待過 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
3859.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
3861.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
所以基本上就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
3861.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
3863.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
我們舉辦活動的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
3863.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
3865.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
各界的民意代表或地方人士來到 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
3865.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
3867.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
的會場 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
3867.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
3869.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
你們簡直是全力以赴 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
3869.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
3871.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
我們都會感謝表達祝福 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
3871.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
3873.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
委歸屆他用 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
3873.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
3875.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
也讓他在那邊喊還送三百塊的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
3875.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
3877.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
那個是我們活動的裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
3877.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
3879.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
的 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
3879.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
3881.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
不是今年才有 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
3881.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
3883.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
我們每次活動都是這樣子處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
3883.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
3885.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
3885.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
3887.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
我請教你喔 農水署這件明顯 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
3887.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
3889.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
這個是超速鑑 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
3889.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
3891.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
可短租 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
3891.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
3893.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
超便宜的特權 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
3893.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
3895.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
濫用國土案 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
3895.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
3897.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
你們聲稱這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
3897.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
3899.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
政風調查結果是查無不乏 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
3899.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
3901.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
很難看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
3901.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
3903.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
人家的市政物證人證這麼齊全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
3903.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
3905.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
你說查無不乏 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
3905.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
3907.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
你這樣明顯的包庇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
3907.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
3909.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
這個部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
3909.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
3911.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
我覺得在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
3911.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
3913.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
個案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
3913.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
3915.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
我覺得我們的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
3915.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
3917.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
我們今天談的是國有土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
3917.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
3919.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
你們會做榜樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
3919.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
3921.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
全國效法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
3921.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
3923.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
他們有一個管理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
3923.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
3925.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
還有這個出租的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
3925.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
3927.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
同事大概就是依照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
3927.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
3929.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
這樣的原則來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
3929.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
3931.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
年租金小於四五萬才行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
3931.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
3933.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
那硬拗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
3933.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
3935.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
小學生都不會解釋成是那兩千四五萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
3935.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
3937.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
如果這個出租原則裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
3937.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
3939.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
有不夠詳盡或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
3939.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
3941.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
沒有辦法符合的這個部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
3941.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
3943.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
農水署身為簽約的甲方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
3943.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
3945.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
明知道以方違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
3945.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
3947.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
還協助這個蒙蔽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
3947.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
3949.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
成諸人的資訊就是包庇土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
3949.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
3951.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
最正確鑿的公務員違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
3951.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
3953.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
曲解法令土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
3953.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
3955.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
土地特定對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
3955.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
3957.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
農業部趕快查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
3957.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
3959.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
那全序部不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
3959.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
3961.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
市部長您剛剛說已經在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
3961.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
3963.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
全序部要查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
3963.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
3965.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
您剛剛也報告行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
3965.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
3967.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
您也要有一份報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
3967.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
3969.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
不好意思法務部黃政 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
3969.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
3971.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
您說再查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
3970.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
3972.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
請三位好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
3972.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
3974.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
農業部全序部法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
3974.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
3976.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
相關部會趕快查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
3977.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
3979.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
不要太離譜嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
3979.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
3981.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
你要紅磡要包庇你也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
3981.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
3983.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
不要做到很難看嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
3983.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
3985.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
人證、市政、物證全齊全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
3987.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
3989.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
你們都說沒事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
3989.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
3991.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
你希望全國人民學習這樣的風氣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
3991.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
3993.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
你希望台灣的選舉風氣是這樣子的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
3995.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
3997.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
麻煩三個部會的調查報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
3997.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
3999.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
剛剛我們提到兩天後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
3999.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
4001.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
台風連假過後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
4001.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
4003.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
也許不是台風連假過後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
4003.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
4005.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
我就要知道您過去說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
4005.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
4007.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
這個是很多人、很多民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
4007.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
4009.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
也有可以達到這樣的使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
4009.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4011.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
這塊土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
4011.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
4013.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
然後這一次針對這個案子的使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
4013.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
4015.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
我剛剛提了六項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
4015.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
4017.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
請再跟我一一確認我需要的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
4017.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
4019.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
4019.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
4021.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
4029.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
4031.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
我們接下來請翁小林委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
4041.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4043.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
4043.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
4045.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
這邊首先有請市部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
4045.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4047.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
還有法務部的黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4049 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4051 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
市部長黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
4052.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4054.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
也麻煩農業部的黃次長好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
4054.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
4056.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
是 好農業部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
4059.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4061.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
部長次長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
4061.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4063.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
我很感謝首先主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
4063.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4065.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
他從昨天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
4065.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4068.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
這一週連續兩天都安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4068.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4070.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
有關於跟選舉相關的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4070.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4072.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
因為我們現在發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4072.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4075.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
民進黨政府執政十年以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4075.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4077.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
那麼民眾感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4077.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4079.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
就是司法、競選還有行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
4079.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4081.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
競選的問題是越來越嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4081.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4083.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
那麼昨天我們比較是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4083.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
4085.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
集中在有關於就是司法競選的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4085.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4087.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
那麼今天是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
4087.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4089.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
談到就是有關於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
4089.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
4091.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
政府可能會動用行政資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
4091.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
4093.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
來干預選舉、妨害選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
4093.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
4095.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
的這樣的一個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
4095.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
4097.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
那麼因為現在距離地方選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
4097.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
4099.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
只剩一個多月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
4099.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
4101.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
然後大家對於行政機關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
4101.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
4103.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
這個舉動都非常的關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
4103.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
4105.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
那也很不希望看到 |
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民進黨政府還是像先前一樣 |
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就是挾著中央行政資源的優勢 |
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然後去幫自己 |
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去做一些事情 |
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然後去做一些事情 |
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然後去幫這個 |
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參選人造勢 |
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那麼這個事實上就是 |
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剛剛其實也講了幾個案例 |
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那我在這裡首先想請教 |
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部長還有兩位次長的事 |
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農水署還有農田水利發展基金會 |
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以及今天其實沒有 |
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邀請到交通部了 |
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還有一個基隆港務公司 |
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那麼這三個機關 |
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算不算是行政中立法 |
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所規範的對象 |
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可以請部長先 |
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我可以先確定一下 |
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農水署一定是 |
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因為他是政府機關 |
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那至於他所屬的下面的基金 |
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這個性質上可能要農業部來 |
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先做說明 |
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政府機關公務機關都算是適用對象 |
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好那就先請那個 |
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先請黃次長 |
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4170.94 |
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農水署還有剛剛所提到的 |
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4172.94 |
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那個基金會也是屬於公務機關 |
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4174.94 |
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公務機關還有 |
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4176.94 |
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政府指派的這個財團法人 |
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4176.94 |
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4178.94 |
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財團法人 |
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4180.94 |
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簡單來說就是他受不受到 |
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4180.94 |
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4182.94 |
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行政中立法規範 |
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4182.94 |
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4184.94 |
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那這部分是不是可以請黃墨信黃次長 |
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再確認是不是 |
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4186.94 |
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4188.94 |
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農田水利發展基金會 |
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4188.94 |
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同樣的是受到 |
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4190.43 |
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4192.43 |
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行政中立法的規範 |
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4192.43 |
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4194.43 |
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這個是法規是這個 |
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4194.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4196.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
權勢部跟主管機關 |
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4196.43 |
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4198.43 |
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可是你是財團法人的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
4198.43 |
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4200.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
財團法人的主管機關 |
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4200.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4202.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
中央目的主管機關不是法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4202.43 |
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4204.43 |
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他的法中央目的主管機關是農水署 |
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但是那時像農田水利 |
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4208.43 |
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發展研究基金會他是屬於什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
4208.43 |
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4210.43 |
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他是屬於財團法人吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
4211.17 |
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4213.17 |
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他是財團法人嘛 |
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4213.17 |
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4215.17 |
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是 所以次長這邊的話 |
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4215.17 |
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4217.17 |
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他應該是不是屬於 |
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4217.17 |
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4219.17 |
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就是我們這裡講的行政中立法的 |
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4219.17 |
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4221.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
第17條第9款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4221.17 |
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4223.17 |
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第一項第9款裡面 |
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4224.25 |
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4226.25 |
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應該是適用 |
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4226.25 |
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4228.25 |
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所以我們就先確立這個大前提嘛 |
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4230.25 |
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就是這幾個機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
4230.25 |
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4232.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
都適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
4232.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4234.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
金融港務公司呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
4235.03 |
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4237.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
金融港務公司 |
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4237.03 |
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4239.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
我理解他應該是國營的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
4239.03 |
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4241.03 |
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是國營公司吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
4241.03 |
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4243.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
交通部所屬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
4243.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
4245.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
國營公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4245.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
4247.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
如果他是屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4247.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4249.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
假設他是屬於這一類型的一個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4249.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4251.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
他應該是廣義的公務機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4251.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4253.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
好 那麼如果說他們都是屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4253.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4255.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
這裡行政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4255.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4257.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
所適用的對象的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4257.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4259.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
那麼這幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4259.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4261.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
機關包含就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4261.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4263.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
金融港務公司然後農田水利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4263.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4265.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
發展研究基金會的董監事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4265.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4267.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
都同樣受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4267.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
4269.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
行政中立法的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
4269.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4271.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
我必須要先確立這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4271.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4273.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
前提 不過就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
4273.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
4275.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
我們在這裡呢 還有再 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
4275.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4277.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
進一步的講的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
4277.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
4279.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
那既然如果他們這幾個機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
4279.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4281.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
都適用行政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
4281.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4283.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
那我們就來看看過去曾經發生過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
4283.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4285.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
什麼樣的一個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
4285.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4287.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
然後讓大家覺得說這些機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
4287.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
4289.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
到底有沒有遵守行政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
4289.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
4291.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
首先我們來講的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
4291.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
4293.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
基隆的港務分公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
4293.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
4295.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
那麼先前呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
4295.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
4297.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
這個基隆港務分公司 |
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4297.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4299.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
我在講的就是因為他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
4299.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
4301.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
屬於交通部所屬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
4301.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
4303.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
這國營事業 那麼所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
4303.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
4305.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
在之前曾經發生過一個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
4305.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
4307.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
就是基隆市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
4307.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4309.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
想要向基隆港務分公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4309.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4311.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
借一天的時間來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
4311.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4313.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
龍舟比賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4313.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4315.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
結果這個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4315.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4317.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
就被拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4317.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4319.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
可是民進黨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4319.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4321.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
基隆市的市長參選人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4321.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4323.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
童子瑋 他同樣是基隆市議會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4323.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4325.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
這個議長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4325.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4327.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
他呢 卻可以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4328.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4330.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
這個在基隆的港口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4330.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4332.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
放一個大型的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4333.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4335.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
叫什麼黃阿瑪的浮球 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4336.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4338.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
在那裡可以放兩個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4338.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4340.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
一直到選前的前一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4341.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4343.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
所以想請問部長是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4343.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4345.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
這個有沒有違法行政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4346.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4347.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4348.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4349.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
委員 我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4349.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4351.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
因為部裡面從來不做個案的認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4351.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4353.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
寧寧知道法律的一個架構 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4353.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4355.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
我們是規範說什麼機關適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4355.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4357.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
如果適用的話 哪些人適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4357.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4359.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
譬如像說 港務公司是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4359.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4361.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
公營事業 它裡面我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4361.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4364.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
準用的對象就是主要負責決策的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4364.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4366.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
就適用行政中立法規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4366.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4368.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
那至於這個案到底是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4368.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4369.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
如果有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4369.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4371.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
就應該由 譬如像說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4371.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4373.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
跟港務公司提起 或者是跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4373.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4375.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
交通部提 由他們來認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4375.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4377.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
我想整個行政中立的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4377.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4379.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
個案處理程序都是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4379.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4381.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4391.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4393.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
這個幫 現在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4393.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4395.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
基隆市市長的參選人同志委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4395.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4397.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
然後放一個大型的浮球 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4397.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4399.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
那一直在這個港口 一直放到他選前前一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4399.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4401.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
這有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4401.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4403.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
所謂的有圖利特定的候選人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4405.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4407.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
這個有沒有圖利 這是涉及到個案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4407.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
4409.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
委員我今天沒辦法回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4409.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4411.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
委員這個 他是不是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4411.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4413.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
構成圖利的可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4413.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4415.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
但是我想就是對一般 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
4415.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4417.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
外界看這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4417.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4419.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
就覺得說就是 基隆分公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4419.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4421.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
基隆港務分公司看起來就是雙標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4421.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4423.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4424.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4426.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
這個基隆市市長謝國良他申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
4426.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4428.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
要辦龍舟比賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4428.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4430.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
然後就不准 但是如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4430.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4432.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
是同志委這個議長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4432.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4434.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
他現在同樣也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4434.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4436.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
基隆市市長的參選人 然後申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4436.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4438.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
放一個大型的浮球在港口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4438.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4440.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
這個就准 所以如果說今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4440.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4442.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
我們的基隆市市長謝國良 他趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4442.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4444.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
也去申請一個 應有他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4444.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4446.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
名義的一個大型的浮球 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4446.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4448.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
然後放在基隆港 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4448.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4450.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
那一直到投票前一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4450.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4452.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
我不知道說港務公司會不會准 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4452.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4454.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
或許今天這個媒體可以去問他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4454.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
4456.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
是不是他會准許 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
4456.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
4458.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
同樣的這個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
4458.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
4460.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
那麼好 那接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
4460.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
4462.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
我再請教的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
4462.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
4464.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
這桃園農水署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
4464.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
4466.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
所辦理的地方農耕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
4466.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
4468.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
供水交流活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
4468.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
4470.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
剛剛其實前面兩位委員也都有問過這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
4470.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
4472.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
本來是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
4473.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
4475.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
一個農耕供水的交流活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
4475.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
4477.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
結果竟然變成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
4477.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
4479.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
動算大會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
4480.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
4482.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
桃園市市長的參選人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
4482.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
4484.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
竟然穿著競選背心上台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
4484.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
4486.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
然後旁邊還有他的父親 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
4486.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
4488.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
就是農田水利發展基金會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
4488.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
4490.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
黃董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
4490.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
4492.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
然後農水署的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
4492.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
4494.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
甚至帶頭喊動算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
4494.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
4496.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
我想請教就是農業部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
4496.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
4498.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
黃市長還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
4498.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
4500.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
農水署的署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
4500.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
4502.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
當天帶頭喊動算的官員是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
4503.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
4504.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
4505.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
4507.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
我們兩位都沒有在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
4507.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
4509.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
所以事實上我們只是從昨天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
4509.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
4511.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
這個影片這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
4511.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
4513.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
來看我們也不知道是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
4513.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
4515.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
是處長嗎 是農水署的這個相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
4515.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
4517.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
地方的處長嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
4517.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
4519.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
在台上有處長 但是是不是他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
4519.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
4521.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
帶頭喊這個部分我沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
4521.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
4523.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
所以這個案子其實是從今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
4523.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
4525.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
應該是8月還是6月的時候發生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
4525.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
4527.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
你們都不知道這個事情嗎 當時新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
4527.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
4529.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
上面都有報導 你們沒有對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
4529.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
4531.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
這個案子去進行了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
4531.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
4533.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
是誰喊動算 你們到現在不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
4534.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
4536.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
基本上因為這個活動是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
4536.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
4538.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
在8月3號舉行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
4538.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
4540.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
那這個部分是我們的節水 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
4540.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
4542.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
宣導的這樣的一個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
4542.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
4544.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
事實上這個從不是今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
4544.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
4546.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
第一次舉辦 過去在舉辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
4546.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
4548.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
的這個時候呢 那也都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
4548.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
4550.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
有地方的民意代表跟相關的人士 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
4550.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
4552.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
來公 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
4552.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
4554.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
來來來來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
4554.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
4556.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
我現在只是要了解到底是哪一位官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
4556.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
4558.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
帶頭喊動算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
4558.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
4560.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
我們也是從這個影片上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
4560.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
4562.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
來看那我們現在確認就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
4562.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
4564.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
處長確實是有在台上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
4564.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
4566.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
但是到底是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
4566.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
4568.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
帶頭去喊動算這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
4568.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
4570.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
我沒有辦法再 好 所以是不是可以請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
4570.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
4572.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
次長還有署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
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給我一份資料 是 |
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4574.65 |
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4576.65 |
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當天的活動的詳細的記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
4576.65 |
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4578.65 |
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然後是誰帶頭喊動算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
4578.65 |
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4580.65 |
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因為我覺得這很重要啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
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4582.65 |
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這很明顯的是不是有違反了刑政中立法 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
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我們沒有在現場啊 然後我們因為這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
4584.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
4586.65 |
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你們全程沒有錄影嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
4586.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
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檢察官也有在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
4588.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
4590.65 |
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次長 你講這樣的話太卸責了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
4590.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
4592.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
對不對 我們這是事後調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
4592.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
4594.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
你全程都沒有錄影 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
4594.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
4596.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
然後當地有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
4596.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
4598.65 |
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我覺得這個案子就應該讓檢調去調查就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
4598.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
4600.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
因為這個案子已經有人檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
4600.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
4602.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
那這個也在調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
4602.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
4604.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
檢舉是檢舉 司法調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
4604.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
4606.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
你刑政調查也要做啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
4606.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
4608.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
可見得你們都是包庇嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
4608.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
4610.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
你們對於自己下面的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
4610.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
4612.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
到底做了什麼事情都不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
4612.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
4614.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
而且是誰決定說要當時是要發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
4614.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
4616.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
這個三百元的這個雞蛋盒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
4617.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
4619.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
桃園管理處這個每年的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
4619.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
4621.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
都是這個都有這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
4621.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
4623.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
好 那麼如果說每年都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
4623.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
4625.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
那你把每年的發放的這個禮品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
4625.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
4627.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
這些資料全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
4627.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
4629.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
給我一份就近五年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
4629.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
4631.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
然後呢 同時本來要了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
4631.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
4633.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
就當天到底有哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
4633.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
4635.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
官員在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
4635.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
4637.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
然後是誰帶頭喊動算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
4637.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
4639.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
我覺得這個議題很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
4639.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
4641.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
因為這涉及到我們今天講的刑政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
4641.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
4643.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
如果說次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
4643.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
4645.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
還有署長 你到現在都對這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
4645.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
4647.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
完全不了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
4647.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
4649.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
這會讓大家很懷疑啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
4649.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
4651.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
八月份發生的事情到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
4651.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
4653.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
已經幾個月了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
4653.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
4655.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
因為這個部分沒有涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
4655.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
4657.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
你們自己內部都沒有任何的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
4657.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
4659.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
剛剛已經有說過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
4659.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
4661.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
那刑政中立法它的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
4661.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
4663.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
基本上我們違反刑政中立法其實是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
4664.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
4666.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
應該有罰則嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
4666.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
4668.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
這還不只是涉及到就是司法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
4668.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
4670.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
這個有沒有涉及到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
4670.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
4672.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
圖利的這些相關的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
4672.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
4674.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
好 那麼接下來我還要再請教的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
4674.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
4676.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
就是全序部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
4676.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
4678.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
司部長 在過去三年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
4678.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
4680.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
像這種可能違反 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
4680.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
4682.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
刑政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
4682.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
4684.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
這種非典型的這種准用人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
4684.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
4686.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
過去有多少人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
4686.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
4688.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
曾經有違法過 不知道全序部這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
4688.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
4690.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
有沒有統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
4690.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
4692.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
各位根據法律的架構我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
4691.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
4693.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
不做個案的一個調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
4693.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
4695.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
所以個案調查法都是機關自己去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
4695.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
4697.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
他們可能進行處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
4697.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
4699.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
那我希望全序部可以利用這次的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
4699.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
4701.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
去了解各機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
4701.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
4703.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
因為違反刑政程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
4703.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
4705.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
刑政中立法第十七條的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
4705.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
4707.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
等等相關的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
4707.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
4709.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
有多少人曾經有被懲處過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
4711.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
4713.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
或是違反刑政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
4713.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
4715.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
應該這樣講 我們要去看我們系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
4715.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
4717.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
當我們的公務同仁被懲處 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
4717.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
4719.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
或者處分的時候 有沒有特定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
4719.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
4721.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
紀錄事由 我先跟委員報告這 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
4721.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
4723.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
如果有我們就比較好做 如果沒有我們就真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
4723.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
4725.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
目前沒有這個資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
4725.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
4727.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
你可以發文給各個公務機關請他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
4727.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
4729.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
提供資料 過去這些年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
4729.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
4731.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
有沒有曾經違反過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
4731.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
4733.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
刑政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
4733.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
4735.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
而被懲處的公務人員以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
4735.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
4737.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
准用人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
4737.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
4739.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
因為這個我們可以作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
4739.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
4741.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
需不需要大幅度的修改 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
4741.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
4743.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
公務人員刑政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
4743.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
4745.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
的一個很重要的參考依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
4745.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
4747.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
如果說這部法規定在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
4747.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
4749.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
它形同句文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
4748.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
4750.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
刑政機關看到了這些相關事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
4750.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
4752.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
從來沒有處罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
4752.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
4754.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
那這個法律規定在那裡有什麼用呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
4756.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
4758.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
然後接下來我還在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
4758.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
4760.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
因為在這一次其實涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
4760.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
4762.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
公務人員刑政中立法第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
4762.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
4764.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
第一項第六款的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
4764.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
4766.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
公務人員他原則上是不可以公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
4766.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
4768.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
為公職候選人站台助獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
4768.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
4770.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
遊行敗票 但是有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
4770.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
4772.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
但說的規定 如果是他的配偶及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
4772.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
4774.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
二親等以內的血親 嬰親是不在此限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
4774.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
4776.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
因此在這次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
4776.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
4778.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
黃氏 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
4778.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
4780.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
他的父親 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
4780.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
4782.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
幫他站台這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
4782.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
4784.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
或許有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
4784.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
4786.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
勉強來講或許是有符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
4786.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
4788.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
公務人員刑政中立法第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
4788.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
4790.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
第一項第六款的規定 但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
4790.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
4792.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
問題就是說是這個規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
4792.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
4794.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
基本上會讓外界 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
4794.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
4796.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
認為說有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
4796.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
4798.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
瓜田裡下之嫌 那麼當初 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
4798.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
4800.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
之所以有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
4801.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
4803.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
有類似這個規定可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
4803.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
4805.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
會考慮到說這是不是人情之長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
4805.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
4807.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
因為畢竟如果說自己家裡面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
4807.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
4809.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
很親近的親人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
4809.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
4811.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
然後出來參選 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
4811.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
4813.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
那家屬是不是可以也幫忙去助選站台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
4813.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
4815.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
但是我想現在也看到了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
4815.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
4817.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
很嚴重的一個漏洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
4817.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
4819.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
就是如果說當這個親屬他本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
4819.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
4821.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
是高官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
4821.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
4823.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
是董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
4823.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
4825.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
那他站在台上的那個意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
4825.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
4827.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
就不同了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
4828.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
4830.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
因為他就是一定會產生一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
4830.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
4832.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
實質的影響力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
4831.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
4833.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
所以我覺得這也是趁這一次的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
4833.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
4835.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
或許可以去檢討公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
4835.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
4837.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
行政中立法第九條第一項第六款的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
4837.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
4839.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
但書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
4839.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
4841.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
未來如果說可以准許 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
4841.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
4843.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
配偶級二星等以內的雪清殷親 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
4843.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
4845.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
去幫忙去助選站台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
4845.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
4847.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
是不是要有一些條件的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
4847.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
4849.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
譬如說在地獄的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
4849.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
4851.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
或者是職等的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
4851.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
4853.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
如果說這麼大的大官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
4853.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
4855.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
然後都站在他的兒子的旁邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
4855.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
4857.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
這個去幫忙助選 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
4858.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
4860.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
這一定是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
4860.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
4862.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
就是有這個特定圖例的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
4862.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
4864.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
情況違反行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
4864.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
4866.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
所以本席希望說全區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
4866.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
4868.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
不可以針對這個議題來進行檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
4868.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
4870.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
4870.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
4872.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
我們來看看這個議題啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
4872.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
4874.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
因為這當初本來就沒有這個但書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
4874.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
4876.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
後來就像委員講人情義理各自 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
4876.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
4878.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
所以就加了這個但書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
4878.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
4880.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
但書是不是夠細緻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
4880.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
4882.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
這個我們再來瞭解狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
4882.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
4884.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
看事實需要的時候我們再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
4884.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
4886.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
討論這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
4886.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
4888.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
第九條的最後一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
4888.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
4890.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
我印象中有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
4890.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
4892.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
最後一項也有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
4892.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
4894.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
可能還是有一些相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
4894.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
4896.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
條件限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
4896.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
4898.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
只是那個條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
4898.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
4900.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
要怎麼操作的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
4900.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
4902.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
所以本席希望說全區不在裡可以去研擬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
4902.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
4904.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
就是說看是不是要把 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
4904.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
4906.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
未來這個條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
4906.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
4908.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
變得更清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
4908.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
4910.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
不管從區域上面地獄上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
4910.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
4912.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
從職等上面可以把這個法規定得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
4912.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
4914.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
到最後我想再問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
4914.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
4916.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
很簡短的一題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
4916.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
4918.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
有關公務人員行政中立法的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
4918.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
4920.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
希望公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
4920.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
4922.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
特別在選舉期間都能保持行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
4922.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
4924.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
但是事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
4924.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
4926.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
最大的問題往往不是出現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
4926.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
4928.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
4928.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
4930.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
而是在政務官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
4930.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
4932.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
這也是我們在私委會這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
4932.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
4934.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
其實已經有好幾個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
4934.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
4936.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
都分別提出來有關於政務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
4936.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
4938.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
行為法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
4938.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
4940.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
或是政務人員法的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
4940.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
4942.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
專法裡面都有要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
4942.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
4944.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
政務人員要行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
4944.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
4946.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
但是全區部就這個部分好像一直很抗拒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
4946.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
4948.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
不願意去規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
4948.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
4950.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
或是去提案有關於政務人員法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
4952.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
4954.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
所以是不是在這個全區部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
4954.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
4956.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
或什麼法部等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
4956.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
4958.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
這個基本上認為說反正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
4958.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
4960.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
我們只是管小官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
4960.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
4962.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
而不管大官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
4962.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
4964.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
然後越是這個政務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
4963.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
4965.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
行政院院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
4965.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
4967.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
還有之前在大罷免的時候主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
4967.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
4969.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
陳淑姿不是也帶頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
4969.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
4971.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
去參加造勢活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
4971.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
4973.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
然後前一陣子政醫藥部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
4973.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
4975.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
不來立法院質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
4975.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
4977.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
然後跑到地方上去幫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
4977.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
4979.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
這個特定的立委候選人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
4979.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
4981.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
市長候選人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
4981.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
4983.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
去陪同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
4983.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
4985.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
一起去考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
4986.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
4988.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
類似這種問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
4988.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
4990.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
層出不窮可是我們卻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
4990.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
4992.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
一直沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
4992.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
4994.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
考試院這邊提出來的政務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
4995.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
4997.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
法的這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
4998.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5000.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
我想這個事情委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
5000.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5002.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
我有跟你們報告過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
5002.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5004.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
我們尊重立法院是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5004.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5006.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
也要訂政務人員法這個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
5006.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
5008.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
我們沒有反而但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5008.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5010.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
政務人員根據憲法規定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5010.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5012.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
考試院的職長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
5012.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
5014.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
考試院職長是對公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
5014.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5016.03 |
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所以如果需要訂這個法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5016.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5018.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
他根據憲法的概念就應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5018.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5020.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
這樣好了我現在只要部長你一個回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5020.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5022.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
一個回應你認不認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5022.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5024.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
應該要規範政務人員行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5024.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5026.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
行政中立這個字眼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5026.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5028.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
有很多很多不同的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5028.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5030.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
譬如像說你不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5030.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
5032.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
指示同仁去違法這本來是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5032.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5034.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
行政中立裡面我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5034.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5036.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
現行很多設計要參與政治活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5036.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5038.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
所以這就兩個不一樣的規範的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5038.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5040.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
你聽聽講說剛剛講的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5040.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5042.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
政務人員不可以去指揮他下面的公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5042.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5044.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
去從事違法的政治活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5044.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5046.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
可是在我們現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
5046.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
5048.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
行政中立法裡面也沒有針對這個長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
5048.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5050.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
有進行處罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
5050.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5052.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
這本來是我們要去指揮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5052.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5054.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
這本來是我想問的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5054.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5056.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
因為時間的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5056.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5058.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
總之我認為說其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5058.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5060.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
政務人員的行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5061.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5063.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
的相關的規範應該要給他法制化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
5063.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
5065.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
我們目前是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
5065.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5067.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
完全複製缺乳對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5067.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5069.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
政務人員的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
5069.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5071.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
沒有任何一個具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5071.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5073.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
明確的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5073.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5075.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
所以讓大家認為說這只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5075.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5077.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
打小蒼蠅啊真正那個老虎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5077.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5079.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
都管不了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5079.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5081.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
沒有什麼太大的意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
5081.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
5083.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
那我也希望就是在這個會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
5083.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
5085.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
有可能的話希望我們的召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
5085.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
5087.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
也能夠繼續的加速 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
5087.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
5089.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
我們來推動有關於政務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
5089.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
5091.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
行為法或政務人員專法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
5091.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
5093.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
這樣的一個法制化的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
5093.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
5095.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
好以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
5096.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
5098.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
好謝謝公委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
5098.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
5100.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
謝謝各位首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
5100.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
5102.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
下一個我們要請楊丞英委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
5109.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
5111.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
主席好楊丞英發言要請法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
5112.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
5114.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
法務部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
5118.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
5120.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
5120.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
5122.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
次長好我們來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
5122.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
5124.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
我們法務體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
5124.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
5126.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
那接連的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
5126.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
5128.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
聯環報的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
5128.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
5130.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
微詩包括了選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
5130.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
5132.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
查會30元的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
5132.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
5134.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
引發了整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
5134.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5136.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
執法尺度的一個爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5136.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5138.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
民眾的不安參選 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5138.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5140.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
人的也是不安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5140.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5142.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
到底他們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5142.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5144.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
那接下來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5144.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5146.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
在調查局人員呢設到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
5146.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
5148.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
一個涉及了海軍光電幣案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5150.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5152.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
並遭控 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5151.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5153.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
他是收賄通風報信 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5155.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5157.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
那接下來又有台北地檢署的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5157.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5159.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
檢察官涉毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5159.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5161.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
那檢察官跟調查局人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5161.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5163.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
他申附了非常重要的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5163.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5165.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
也就是偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5165.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5167.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
犯罪維護司法公正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5167.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5169.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
的一個這個重責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5169.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5171.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
但是接連的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5171.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
5173.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
發生了這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5173.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5175.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
自身涉及不法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5175.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5177.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
的這個事件那難免會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5177.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5179.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
引發社會大眾對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5179.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5181.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
我們整個內部的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5181.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5183.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
跟監督機制的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5183.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
5185.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5184.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5186.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
那另外我們又看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5186.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
5188.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
選舉查會他攸關了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5188.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5190.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
整個選舉的公平性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5190.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5192.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
那所以如果查會的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5192.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5194.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
適用界限他不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5194.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5196.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
不明確那更容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5196.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5198.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
讓民眾質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5198.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5200.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
執法是否他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5200.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5202.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
一致的所以法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5202.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5204.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
你應該要提出具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5204.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5206.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
的制度檢查跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5206.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5208.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
改善的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5208.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5210.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
所以在這邊請教次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5210.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5212.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
法務部你要如何的去檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5212.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5214.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
你所屬的機關單位他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5214.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5216.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
內部這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5216.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5218.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
這個監督跟查會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5218.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5220.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
的標準防止這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5220.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5222.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
維師一再的發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5222.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5224.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
而且你要有具體的改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5224.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5226.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
讓民眾重回 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5226.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5228.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
對你整個法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5228.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5230.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
的一個信任請做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5230.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5232.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
各位報告那就我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5232.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5234.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
本部所屬甲官跟調查官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5234.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5236.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
涉及案件的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5236.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5238.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
本部也贊同剛委員所講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5238.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5240.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
那證人先正極 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5240.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5242.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
我們負責這個執法機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5242.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5244.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
的這個部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5244.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5246.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
對我們所屬要求一定要是更嚴格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5246.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5248.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
那對於涉案的檢察官跟涉案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5248.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5250.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
調查官我們絕對不寬大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5250.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5252.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
我們部裡面已經正式發過新聞稿 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5252.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5254.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
正式的表明部立的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5254.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5256.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
證人要正極絕不寬大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5256.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5258.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
那你有這個立場已經發生了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5258.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5260.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
你要怎麼改革呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5260.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5262.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
就檢察官的部分那事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5262.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5264.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
我們相關的機制事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5264.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5266.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
他是在的相關的這個內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5266.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5268.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
空外外空機制他的機制在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5268.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5270.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
他的內空外空都在你現在給我回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5270.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5272.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
這樣子他就已經出事了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5272.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5274.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
你還不去檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5274.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5276.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
報告委員沒有不檢討就 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5276.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5278.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
委員所提的這個北檢的個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5278.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5280.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
我們當時發生之後我們馬上就要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5280.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5282.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
台高檢署你要就相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5282.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
5284.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
這個個案或未來可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
5284.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
5286.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
發生的個案你要進行相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
5286.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
5288.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
這個研討或相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
5288.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
5290.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
這個這個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
5290.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
5292.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
請問你們的檢討跟你們未來的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
5292.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
5294.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
你什麼時候可以提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
5294.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
5296.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
那台高檢已經在做處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
5296.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
5298.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
什麼時候會提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
5298.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
5300.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
你要給社會大眾知道你怎麼改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
5300.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
5302.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
讓大家重回你的信任啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
5304.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
5306.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
這是司法最重要的防線啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
5306.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
5308.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
報告委員報告制度上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
5308.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
5310.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
要求檢察官做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
5310.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
5312.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
這個社會的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
5312.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
5314.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
一直都法令各方面都在我們一直在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
5314.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
5316.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
一直都在一直都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
5316.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
5318.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
但是也連環報所以本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
5318.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
5320.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
要要求你到底多久時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
5320.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
5322.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
可以針對已經發生的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
5322.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
5324.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
你可以再怎麼樣進行方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
5324.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
5326.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
你給社會大眾說人家才會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
5326.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
5328.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
有信心啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
5328.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
5330.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
報告報告台高檢署他已經不止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
5330.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
5332.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
這個個案他已經就因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
5332.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
5334.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
發生個案他已經我們要求台高檢署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
5334.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
5336.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
因為台高檢署他是掌管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
5336.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
5338.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
全國各地的掌管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
5338.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
5340.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
要由他去做相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
5340.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
5342.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
跟檢討跟經濟方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
5342.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
5344.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
好請問大概多久會告訴社會大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
5344.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
5346.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
這台高檢在做我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
5346.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
5348.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
看他因為畢竟是台高檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
5348.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
5350.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
他是執行的這個檢管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
5350.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
5352.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
我們民眾希望要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
5352.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
5354.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
本席也希望民眾對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
5354.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
5356.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
政府對於檢調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
5356.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
5358.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
是有信心的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
5358.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
5360.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
你到現在發生這樣子你還 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
5360.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
5362.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
沒有辦法告訴我們你怎麼樣去改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
5362.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
5364.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
那這怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
5364.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
5366.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
你趕快去檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
5366.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
5368.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
趕快給社會大眾說好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
5368.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
5370.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
這個沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
5370.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
5372.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
那接下來本席要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
5373.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
5375.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
每個委員甚至拿出圖卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
5375.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
5377.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
甚至拿出一個便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
5377.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
5379.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
甚至拿出一個炒麵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
5379.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
5381.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
兩三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
5381.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
5383.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
一直問一直問一直問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
5383.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
5385.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
查會的標準到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
5385.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
5387.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
因為你查會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
5388.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
5390.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
5389.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
5391.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
他有沒有公平性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
5391.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
5393.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
他是影響到整個選舉的公平性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
5393.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
5395.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
你讓民眾也怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
5395.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
5397.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
你讓參選人也怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
5397.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
5399.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
兩三個月你講不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
5401.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
5403.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
那告訴我們說你自個兒看啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
5403.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
5405.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
有啊我們有公告啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
5405.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
5407.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
那我要請教次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
5407.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
5409.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
你叫我們自個兒看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
5409.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
5411.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
我們看不清楚趕快問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
5411.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
5413.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
你們沒有辦法告訴人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
5413.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
5415.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
說七天上一次我們質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
5415.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
5417.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
說二十八叫七天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
5417.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
5419.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
要拿出來拿出來了沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
5419.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
5421.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
有給社會大眾說了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
5421.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
5423.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
我們還看不到所以我要請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
5423.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
5425.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
既然我們問不出一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
5425.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
5427.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
答案出來請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
5427.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
5429.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
你們查會的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
5429.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
5431.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
到底是什麼不要讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
5431.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
5433.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
人民這麼恐慌嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
5433.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
5435.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
5462.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
5464.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
他的自由心證又不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
5464.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
5466.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
這是民眾要問的會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
5466.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
5468.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
那不可能法律的構成要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
5468.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
5470.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
規定在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
5470.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
5472.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
從有這個法條規定就是這樣子規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
5472.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
5474.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
實務上也形成了穩定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
5474.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
5476.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
見解什麼時候會構成99條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
5476.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
5478.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
的這個詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
5478.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
5480.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
跟收回證他其實你再深思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
5480.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
5482.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
你再深思這麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
5482.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
5484.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
多的委員不只拿出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
5484.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
5486.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
實體的便當也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
5486.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
5488.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
草面也好圖卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
5488.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
5490.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
也好一直在問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
5490.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
5492.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
民眾還是不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
5492.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
5494.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
所以你們有責任要去釐清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
5494.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
5496.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
讓一個選舉他是公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
5496.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
5498.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
讓查會的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
5498.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
5500.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
他是一致性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
5500.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
5502.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
你必須要去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
5502.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
5504.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
九月份的時候韓國有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
5504.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
5506.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
資安公司偵測發現到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
5506.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
5508.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
暗網 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
5509.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
5511.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
有人都說兩千筆的台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
5511.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
5513.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
監所受刑人的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
5513.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
5515.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
那你矯正署自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
5515.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
5517.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
比對之後他確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
5517.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
5519.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
這個資料是我國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
5519.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
5521.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
監所受刑人的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
5521.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
5523.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
他內容涵蓋了什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
5523.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
5525.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
他的姓名他的身分證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
5525.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
5527.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
他的住址他的刑期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
5527.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
5529.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
收容設防 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
5529.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
5531.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
下綁都有啦以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
5531.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
5533.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
他警察聯絡人這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
5533.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
5535.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
敏感的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
5535.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
5537.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
那目前矯正署他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
5538.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
5540.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
要由這個政風以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
5540.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
5542.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
資訊署去清查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
5544.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
5546.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
到底是外部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
5546.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
5548.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
Hai Lu |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
5548.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
5550.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
還是我們內部人員外洩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
5551.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
5553.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
5581.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
5583.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
連那個連絡人家人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
5587.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
5589.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
的資訊都出去這個太恐怖了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
5591.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
5593.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
所以本教說大量的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
5593.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
5595.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
受刑人以及家屬的個資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
5595.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
5597.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
他害出去之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
5598.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
5600.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
5599.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
5601.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
被有心人取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
5601.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
5603.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
那他不僅可以是詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
5603.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
5605.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
勒索還有人身安全的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
5605.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
5607.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
各位爸爸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
5607.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
5609.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
這個影響太大了到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
5609.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
5611.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
我們的監控 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
5611.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
5613.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
你潛在的漏洞到底在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
5614.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
5616.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
你們應該要徹底去查清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
5616.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
5618.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
證實到這個兩千筆的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
5618.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
5620.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
確實是我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
5620.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
5622.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
真的社會化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
5622.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
5624.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
那個案網上所兜售的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
5624.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
5626.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
並不是全部受刑的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
5626.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
5628.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
那是7月跟8月新收案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
5628.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
5630.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
局部的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
5630.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
5632.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
個人資料並不是全面性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
5632.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
5634.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
資料的被外洩並不是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
5635.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
5637.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
市長你這樣回答我完全沒有辦法接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
5637.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
5639.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
你明明就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
5639.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
5641.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
你來解釋一個不是全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
5642.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
5644.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
這不行啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
5644.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
5646.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
這當然當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
5646.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
5648.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
我只是要跟委員說明而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
5648.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
5650.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
所以市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
5650.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
5652.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
這個你必須要去查明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
5653.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
5655.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
到底是內部外洩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
5655.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
5657.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
還是外部害怒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
5657.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
5659.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
那到底你外洩的源頭是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
5659.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
5663.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
你以後的改善措施是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
5663.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
5665.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
你要確保受刑人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
5665.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
5667.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
還是新收人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
5667.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
5669.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
以及他家屬個資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
5669.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
5671.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
不再暴露在風險之中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
5672.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
5674.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
是不是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
5674.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
5676.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
盡快查明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
5676.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
5678.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
防堵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
5678.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
5680.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
最後一個議題我要跟你討論喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
5680.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
5682.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
全國的監所收刑人現在6萬6千人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
5683.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
5685.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
6萬6千 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
5685.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
5687.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
2022年到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
5687.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
5689.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
暴增了1萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
5689.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
5691.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
那你的基層借戶幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
5692.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
5694.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
這麼惡化我一再講一再講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
5694.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
5696.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
叫你們去清查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
5697.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
5701.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
我們的標準希望是1比這個6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
5701.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
5703.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
那你現在是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
5703.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
5705.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
1比11.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
5705.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
5707.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
對1比10是10億左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
5707.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
5709.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
那怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
5709.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
5711.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
好個人報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
5711.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
5713.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
那現在超收大概3000多人左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
5713.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
5715.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
那我們部裡面有各式的前門政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
5715.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
5717.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
跟後門政策希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
5717.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
5719.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
減少這個超收的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
5719.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
5721.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
請問法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
5721.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
5723.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
說僑政署說配合法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
5723.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
5725.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
只是重塑審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
5725.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
5727.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
法甲是以減少在監人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
5728.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
5730.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
報告委員這個是後門政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
5730.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
5732.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
後門政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
5732.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
5734.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
我們讓人少進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
5734.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
5736.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
委員講的是進去後門政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
5736.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
5738.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
怎麼讓他出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
5738.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
5740.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
你講的坑腔有力本需要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
5741.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
5743.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
監所所受及的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
5743.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
5745.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
是他收容所的空間不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
5745.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
5747.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
如果以人數特別本行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
5747.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
5749.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
一直要求的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
5749.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
5751.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
介護人力的短缺的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
5751.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
5753.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
還有整體性社會面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
5753.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
5755.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
刑事政策的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
5754.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
5756.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
這三方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
5756.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
5758.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
會涉及到你現在1比11.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
5758.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
5760.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
5760.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
5762.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
同時你的受刑人增加那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
5764.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
5766.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
那你給我講一個前門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
5766.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
5768.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
還有一個後門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
5768.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
5770.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
本行說你們奉法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
5770.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
5772.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
的一個指示 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
5772.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
5774.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
僑政署表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
5774.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
5776.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
奉法務部你們的指示 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
5776.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
5778.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
要加速重塑的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
5778.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
5780.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
這個審查假釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
5780.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
5782.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
如果你只有用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
5782.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
5784.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
這個步驟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
5784.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
5786.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
5785.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
5787.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
來紓解壓力的手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
5788.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
5790.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
那我要請問你喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
5790.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
5792.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
獨家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
5791.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
5793.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
詐欺犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
5793.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
5795.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
獨家會影響到我們用戶人的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
5795.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
5797.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
詐欺犯會影響到我們財產的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
5801.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
5803.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
這就怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
5831.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
5833.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
有他的機制在嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
5833.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
5835.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
那結論就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
5835.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
5837.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
你們必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
5837.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
5839.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
像本席剛才提出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
5839.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
5841.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
獨家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
5840.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
5842.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
5842.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
5844.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
這一些你應該要建立研訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
5844.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
5846.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
5846.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
5848.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
再犯的風險評估跟追蹤機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
5849.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
5851.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
5851.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
5853.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
現在每一個受刑人進到我們監所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
5853.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
5855.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
尤其詐欺案件我們都有個案的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
5855.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
5857.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
相關的措施來避免他再犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
5857.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
5859.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
這個監所都有在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
5859.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
5861.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
這點絕對如同剛剛委員所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
5861.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
5863.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
我們監所已經確實在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
5864.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
5866.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
從1比6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
5866.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
5868.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
到1比8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
5868.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
5870.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
到現在1比11.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
5870.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
5872.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
人力明確不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
5872.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
5874.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
上一次本席的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
5874.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
5876.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
你們去盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
5876.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
5878.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
應該要怎麼樣增加人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
5879.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
5881.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
要怎麼樣去調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
5881.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
5883.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
到現在有調整出來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
5883.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
5885.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
你們預計要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
5885.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
5887.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
這個人力的部分我們隨時都向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
5887.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
5889.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
這個我們行政院來爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
5889.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
5891.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
其實不只委員主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
5891.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
5893.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
也都非常在意這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
5893.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
5895.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
他在意有沒有跟你增加人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
5895.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
5897.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
有 各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
5897.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
5899.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
這次像彰化看守所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
5899.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
5901.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
他就合給我們188 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
5901.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
5903.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
188個新的增加的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
5903.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
5905.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
其實他是逐步給我們新的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
5905.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
5907.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
逐步 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
5907.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
5909.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
這是報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
5908.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
5910.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
所以你給我的數字結果論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
5910.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
5912.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
就是1比6 1比8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
5912.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
5914.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
1比11.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
5914.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
5916.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
所以你要審慎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
5916.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
5918.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
我相信你們提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
5918.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
5920.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
要一個整體的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
5920.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
5922.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
行政院他敢不支持嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
5922.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
5924.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
這是對於人身的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
5927.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
5929.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
你們去提出好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
5929.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
5931.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
我們這其實一直都在關注這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
5931.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
5933.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
你一直在關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
5933.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
5935.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
你要給我們答案啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
5935.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
5937.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
你的結果是往上升啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
5937.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
5939.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
比例是往上升啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
5939.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
5941.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
你對這些監護人員要怎麼辦啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
5941.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
5943.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
除了人力的爭取之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
5943.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
5945.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
剛剛委員所提到的前門跟後門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
5945.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
5947.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
都是疏解尖索壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
5947.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
5949.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
真的人力的部分本行具體建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
5949.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
5951.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
你必須要立即趕快去做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
5951.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
5953.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
因為你明明白白人不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
5953.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
5955.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
你出事的問題會更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
5955.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
5957.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
所以我善意的給你提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
5957.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
5959.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
務必要去精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
5959.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
5961.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
謝謝謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
5961.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
5963.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
今天我們透過科技的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
5963.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
5965.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
也可以獲得一些疏解啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
5965.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
5967.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
都是靠人力去做監控 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
5967.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
5969.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
科技的科技智慧型的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
5969.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
5971.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
市長你如果要再說我就跟你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
5970.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
5972.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
你已經結果論是1比6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
5972.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
5974.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
1比8 1比11.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
5976.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
5978.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
你還透過科技你透過科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
5978.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
5980.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
你給我這個答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
5980.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
5982.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
那你表示科技無效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
5982.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
5984.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
不是它是相輔相成啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
5984.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
5986.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
它不衝突啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
5986.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
5988.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
市長你要去思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
5987.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
5989.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
你的結果是負面的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
5989.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
5993.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
你就很誠實的去面對這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
5993.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
5995.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
而不是說頭無歸啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
5995.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
5997.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
5997.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
5999.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
那解決問題才是正道嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
5999.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6001.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6001.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6003.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
謝謝市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6005.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6007.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
哈哈哈哈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6008.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6010.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
簡單的說就是治安能力敗壞嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6010.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6012.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
這個介護比喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6012.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6014.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
日本是1比2啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6014.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6016.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
韓國是1比3啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6016.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6017.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
美國是1比4.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6017.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6019.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
台灣是1比12啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6020.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6022.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
我都會背了你們還在等等等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6022.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6024.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6024.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6026.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
那我現在先做會議程序的宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6026.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6028.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
就是說在林沛翔委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6028.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6030.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
詢答完畢之後我們先休息5分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6030.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6032.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
好現在請林沛翔委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6037.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6039.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6039.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6041.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
有請市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6040.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6042.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
哪一位市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6042.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6044.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
黃市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6044.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6046.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
黃某新市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6046.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6048.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
你們先喝個水沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6048.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6050.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
剛剛蠻辛苦的喝個水沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6050.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6052.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
好委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6053.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6055.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
好市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6055.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6057.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
今天本席要談的是民主政治裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6057.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6059.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
最基本也是人民最在乎的兩件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6059.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6061.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
第一行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6061.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6063.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
第二司法公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6065.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6067.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6066.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6068.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
選舉可以有輸贏 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6068.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6070.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
政治可以有立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6070.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6072.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
但是政府不能有顏色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6072.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6074.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
司法更不能有偏心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6074.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6076.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
畢竟來說選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6076.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6078.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
是人民在選國家的主人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6078.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6080.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
而不是政府在挑國家的主人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6080.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6082.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
如果今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6082.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6084.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
政府的資源會因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6084.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6086.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
政治關係而有所不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6086.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6088.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
司法的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6088.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6090.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
可以因為候選人的顏色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6090.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6092.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
而有所改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6092.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6094.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
那我們要談什麼民主 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6094.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6096.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
談什麼公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6096.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6098.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6098.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6100.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
今天本席質詢不是要替誰定罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6100.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6102.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
而是要請教您 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6102.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6104.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
現在政府到底有沒有一把公平的尺 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6104.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6106.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
不能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6106.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6108.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
量到藍色就變成鐵齒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6108.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6110.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
量到綠色就變成橡皮筋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6112.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6114.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
這不是所謂的依法行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6114.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6116.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
這叫雙重標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6117.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6121.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
先講到說本席是基隆的選區立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6121.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6123.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
最近基隆發生了一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6123.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6125.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
根據媒體報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6125.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6127.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
基隆民防大隊長在民防相關參會上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6127.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6129.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
公開拜託大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6129.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6131.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
支持自己的兒子童子偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6131.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6133.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
童子偉競選辦公室說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6133.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6135.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
這只是父親在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6135.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6137.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
替兒子加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6138.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6140.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
部長本席可以完全理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6140.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6142.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
天下父母心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6142.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6144.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
哪個爸爸不忘子承龍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6144.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6146.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
不忘女承鳳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6146.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6148.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
父親疼兒子天親地義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6148.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6150.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6150.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6152.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
父愛可以無限大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6152.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6154.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
公權力卻萬萬不可 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6154.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6156.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
無限上崗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6156.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6158.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
今天問題不是爸爸能不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6158.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6160.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
替兒子加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6160.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6162.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
而是這位爸爸同時具有民防大隊長的身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6162.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6164.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
如果是在民防正式參會上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6164.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6166.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
利用組織關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6166.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6168.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
利用職務影響力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
6168.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6170.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
甚至公共資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6170.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6172.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
替特定候選人拉票 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6172.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6174.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
難道一句天下父母心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6174.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6176.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
他只是個爸爸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6176.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6178.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
就可以把所有疑慮一筆勾銷嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6179.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6181.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
在此本席要請教次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6181.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6183.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
民防大隊長是否 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6183.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6185.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
適用相關行政中立法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6185.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6187.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
如果不直接適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6187.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6189.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
還有哪些法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6189.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6191.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
可以約束 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6191.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6193.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
請回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6192.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6194.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6194.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6196.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
我已經提到個案上某一個對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6196.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6198.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
是不是屬於行政中立法適用的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6198.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6200.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
這倒不是我們部裡面所主管的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6200.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6202.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
可能是不是要請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6202.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6204.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
法規主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6204.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6206.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
來做詮釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6206.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6208.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
請問法規主管機關是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6210.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6212.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6212.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6214.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
因為我們行政中立法適用的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6214.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6216.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
一定是公務人員或者準用人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6216.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6218.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
您問的是民防大隊長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6218.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6220.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
那民防大隊到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
6220.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6222.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
是不是公務體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6222.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6224.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
我的理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6224.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
6226.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
我不曉得正不正確 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
6226.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
6228.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
這個又不是主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
6228.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
6230.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
我理解民防大隊是屬於民間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6229.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6231.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
所以如果不直接適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
6231.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
6233.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
是否還有哪些法律可以約束 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
6237.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
6239.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
那我先去問下一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
6239.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
6241.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
如果涉及職務影響力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
6241.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
6243.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
或公務資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6243.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6245.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
應由誰來做調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
6245.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
6247.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
那什麼情況又可能涉及刑事責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
6252.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
6254.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
那他是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
6254.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
6256.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
違反行政中立法或職權刑事前提 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
6256.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
6258.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
他是要行政中立法規範的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
6258.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
6260.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
剛剛委員提了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
6260.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
6262.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
那至於他有沒有可能涉及刑事犯罪的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
6262.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
6264.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
那又涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
6264.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
6266.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
他的行為太樣是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
6266.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
6268.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
會涉及到他可能涉及的犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
6268.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
6270.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
因為委員應該沒有提很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
6270.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
6272.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
到底他具體的行為是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
6272.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
6274.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
因為委員只是空翻的問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
6274.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
6276.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
他有沒有可能什麼狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
6276.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
6278.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
這要構成刑事犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
6277.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
6279.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
因為他有各種可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
6279.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
6281.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
所以我這邊沒有辦法回答委員你指的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
6281.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
6283.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
哪一種狀況之下他可能會構成犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
6284.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
6286.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
好 會這個質詢後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
6286.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
6288.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
本席會提供相關資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
6288.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
6290.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
給法務部 給宣訊部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
6290.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
6292.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
請你們好好去調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
6292.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
6294.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
因為不能只是因為父子關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
6294.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
6296.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
就忽略他的職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
6296.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
6298.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
也不能是因為特地政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
6298.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
6300.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
就放寬法律的尺度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
6300.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
6302.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
接下來本席要提還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
6302.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
6304.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
九關基隆的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
6304.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
6306.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
那這個蠻有意思的 就談談這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
6306.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
6310.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
基隆港黃阿瑪水上裝置藝術活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
6310.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
6312.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
這個根據目前外界 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
6312.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
6314.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
那個揭露的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
6314.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
6316.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
基隆市議會在今年8月24號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
6316.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
6318.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
以議會的名義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
6318.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
6320.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
向港務公司申請場地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
6320.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
6322.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
短短十天就獲得核准 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
6322.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
6324.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
但是同樣也是在今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
6324.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
6326.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
基隆市政府過去為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
6326.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
6328.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
舉辦以前就已經辦過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
6328.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
6330.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
龍舟活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
6330.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
6332.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
同樣向港務公司申請場地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
6332.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
6334.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
等了一個多月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
6334.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
6336.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
最後得到的答覆卻是安全有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
6336.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
6338.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
更值得注意的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
6338.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
6340.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
黃阿瑪活動的現場簽到單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
6340.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
6342.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
還出現童子瑋競選發言人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
6342.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
6344.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
有本名的名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
6344.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
6346.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
身份標示委外單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
6348.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
6350.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
市長 本席不認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
6350.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
6352.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
十天核准就一定違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
6352.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
6354.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
也不是說不同活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
6354.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
6356.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
就一定要有相同的審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
6356.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
6358.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
但是請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
6358.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
6364.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
兩個申請案的安全評估標準是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
6364.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
6366.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
審查流程有沒有一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
6366.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
6370.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
有沒有因為申請單位的身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
6370.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
6372.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
而給予不同待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
6373.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
6375.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
這個應該屬於基隆港務局 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
6375.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
6377.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
他的主管機關應該是交通公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
6377.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
6379.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
港務公司應該是交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
6379.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
6381.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
那這部分申請的不會經過法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
6381.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
6382.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
所以這部分部裡面沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
6382.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
6384.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
為什麼會提出來講呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
6384.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
6385.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
因為我們會認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
6385.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
6387.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
難道公共場地的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
6387.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
6389.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
也要看人來下菜碟嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
6390 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
6392 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
一般老百姓申請場地要排隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
6392 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
6394 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
要審查要補件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
6394 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
6396 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
如果有政治關心的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
6396 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
6398 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
就可能享有比較便利的待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
6398 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
6400 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
那麼人民心裡面會怎麼想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
6400 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
6402 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
市長 公共資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
6402 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
6404 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
不是政治人物的私人客廳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
6404 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
6408 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
公家機關也不是候選人的競選服務處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
6408 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
6410 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
我想這不是只有基隆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
6410 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
6412 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
包括桃園 包括很多地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
6412 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
6414 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
在這一屆的選舉裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
6414 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
6416 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
這種案件層出不窮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
6416 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
6418 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
那所有人最後面都是來看著法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
6418 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
6422 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
所以這件事情其實已經不是特別的個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
6422 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
6424 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
而是有點慢慢的變成通案的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
6424 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
6426 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
那本席要求的很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
6426 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
6430 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
就是請主管機關公開合理的審查依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
6430 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
6433 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
釐清有沒有不當官說利益輸送 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
6433 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
6435 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
或其他違法的情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
6435 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
6439 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
有就依法處理 沒有就還人清白 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
6439 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
6441 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
這才叫公平吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
6441 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
6442 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
這是本席的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
6442 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
6444 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
那市長您認為呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
6444 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
6445 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
這部分我們當然贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
6445 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
6447 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
那如果說套詞違反大法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
6447 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
6449 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
如果說套詞違反單純的違反行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
6449 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
6451 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
跟各目的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
6451 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
6453 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
他會去做行政上的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
6453 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
6455 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
但如果違反行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
6455 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
6457 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
可能涉及刑事犯罪的部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
6457 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
6459 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
假官只有犯罪行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
6459 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
6461 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
他也會可以依法偵辦 這沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
6461.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
6464.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
如果說代表公務機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
6464.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
6467.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
沒有權限但代表公務機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
6467.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
6470.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
去談一些案子是不是有刑事責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
6471.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
6473.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
譬如說他本來沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
6473.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
6476.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
基隆市議會正式的公務員身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
6476.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
6480.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
但是他卻代表基隆市議會去談合作案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
6480.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
6483.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
這算不算是有刑事責任呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
6483.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
6486.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
各位每一個犯罪的構成要件不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
6486.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
6491.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
委員你講這個陳書的事實是有點短啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
6491.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
6493.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
有點少 沒有辦法去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
6493.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
6495.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
去涵射到哪一個犯罪的構成要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
6495.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
6497.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
所以我可能沒辦法回答委員您的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
6497.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
6499.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
那 市長 本席在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
6499.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
6501.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
部長請坐 不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
6501.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
6505.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
市長 本席在舉一個已經有正式懲戒結果的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
6505.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
6508.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
2018年促轉會張天青事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
6508.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
6512.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
當時張天青涉及利用機關職務跟資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
6512.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
6516.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
針對新北市長候選人侯友宜操作政治議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
6516.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
6518.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
最後監察院通過彈劾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
6518.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
6521.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
懲戒機關也做出撤職 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
6521.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
6523.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
停止任用兩年的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
6523.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
6525.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
這個案件告訴我們什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
6525.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
6528.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
政府給官員的是權限權力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
6528.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
6530.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
不是選舉武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
6530.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
6532.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
人民交付的是信任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
6532.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
6534.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
不是政治提款卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
6534.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
6538.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
市長 行政維師不一定已經構成刑事犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
6538.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
6540.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
本席完全清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
6540.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
6544.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
但是當行政調查已經發現具體犯罪疑點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
6544.62 |
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6547.62 |
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行政機關與檢察機關之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
6547.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
6551.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
有沒有一套明確的移送銜接機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
6551.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
6554.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
不能說行政機關說刑事案件不歸我管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
6554.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
6558.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
司法機關說沒有具體事證就無法甄辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
6558.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
6562.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
最後皮球踢來踢去真相就這樣不見了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
6562.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
6565.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
權力可以分工但責任不能失蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
6565.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
6568.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
機關可以分家但正義不能放家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
6568.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
6569.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
6571.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
6574.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
本席相信絕大多數的公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
6574.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
6576.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
都是奉公守法認真做事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
6576.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
6580.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
他們絕對不應該因為少數人的政治操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
6580.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
6584.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
就讓整個公務系統的體系跟公信力受到傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
6584.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
6588.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
所以行政中立不只保護的是選舉公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
6588.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
6591.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
也是保護認真工作的公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
6591.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
6595.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
最後本席要請市長具體回答三個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
6595.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
6598.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
第一查辦標準到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
6598.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
6602.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
涉及職務拉票公共資源不當使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
6602.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
6604.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
甚至疑似會選的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
6604.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
6606.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
檢查機關如何判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
6606.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
6609.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
如何確保不同政黨不同會選人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
6609.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
6611.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
都適用同一個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
6612.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
6615.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
行政機關如果執行職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
6615.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
6617.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
知道可能涉及犯罪的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
6617.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
6620.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
行政說法規範是義務告發的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
6620.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
6623.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
所以不會說行政機關知道犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
6623.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
6625.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
就不曉得怎麼執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
6625.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
6628.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
說法規定義務向檢察機關告發 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
6628.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
6629.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
這是一個義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
6629.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
6632.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
第二您所提到的查會標準問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
6632.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
6638.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
違反行政中立標準的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
6638.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
6641.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
違反行政中立可能涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
6641.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
6644.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
單純違反行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
6644.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
6646.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
而有可能涉及犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
6646.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
6649.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
單純違反行政中立行政處理的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
6649.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
6650.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
剛剛我跟委員報告了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
6650.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
6653.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
他要由主管機關去做相關的懲處或懲戒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
6653.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
6656.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
但他如果是涉及到刑事犯罪的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
6656.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
6658.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
我們檢察官才會介入來偵辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
6658.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
6660.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
委員提到的查會標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
6660.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
6663.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
部裡面其實在這次歷年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
6663.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
6665.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
已經一再重申 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
6665.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
6669.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
其實標準都寫在這一個我們的選罷法99條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
6669.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
6671.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
跟相關的判決的最高法院判決的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
6671.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
6673.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
市長那我是問第二個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
6673.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
6677.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
行政調查跟刑事偵辦如何銜接 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
6677.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
6681.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
如果行政機關發現具體犯罪事證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
6681.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
6683.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
有沒有明確的移送機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
6683.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
6685.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
誰負責追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
6685.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
6688.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
又如何避免責任斷點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
6688.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
6689.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
6689.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
6692.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
那如果個案涉及到刑事偵辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
6692.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
6694.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
跟這個我們檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
6694.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
6696.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
偵辦有可能產生進階的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
6696.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
6699.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
但如果已經檢察官來偵辦檢察官會相關的主導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
6699.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
6701.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
他會去調相關的行政調查的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
6701.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
6702.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
這點沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
6702.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
6704.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
那委員比較關注的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
6704.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
6705.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
只有行政部門在調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
6705.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
6707.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
檢察官還沒有介入的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
6707.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
6708.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
該怎麼銜接的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
6708.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
6709.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
剛剛我已經跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
6709.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
6711.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
當行政機關調查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
6711.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
6713.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
他發現某人可能涉及犯罪的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
6713.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
6714.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
我們刑事偵辦就規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
6714.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
6716.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
他有告發的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
6716.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
6718.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
這是行政機關的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
6718.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
6720.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
他必須要向檢察機關來告發 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
6721.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
6721.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
第三 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
6722.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
6724.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
實際查辦的成果在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
6724.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
6728.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
我認為說在會後請提出相關案件的受理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
6728.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
6732.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
移送 偵截 起訴與不起訴的會診統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
6732.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
6736.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
讓立法院能夠檢驗我們這次的執法成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
6736.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
6737.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
6737.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
6738.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
各位報告老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
6738.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
6742.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
那範圍是講這一次目前為止的分案情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
6742.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
6743.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
6743.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
6744.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
好 可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
6744.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
6745.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
6745.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
6748.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
本席今天不是要求檢察官辦藍不辦綠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
6748.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
6750.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
也不是要求說辦綠不辦藍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
6750.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
6753.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
我要求的是不管藍綠白 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
6753.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
6754.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
違法就是違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
6754.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
6756.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
不是官大官小 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
6756.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
6758.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
法律面前人人平等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
6758.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
6760.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
誰都不能有特權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
6762.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
6765.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
台灣民主走到今天非常不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
6765.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
6768.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
多少前輩流血流汗才換來今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
6768.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
6770.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
人民手上這張神聖的選票 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
6770.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
6774.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
我們不能讓行政不中立傷害選舉的公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
6774.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
6777.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
更不能讓司法雙重標準的疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
6777.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
6779.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
來摧毀人民對政府的信任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
6779.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
6780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
6781.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
6782.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
大家真的要的不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
6782.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
6785.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
不是要政府保證說每個人都不犯錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
6785.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
6787.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
而是要政府保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
6787.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
6790.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
犯了錯就用同一套標準來去做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
6790.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
6793.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
如果法律只敢打蒼蠅不敢碰老虎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
6793.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
6795.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
那不是司法威信 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
6795.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
6797.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
那是人民的悲哀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
6797.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
6799.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
最後市長我送你三句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
6799.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
6802.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
行政中立不是看顏色決定立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
6802.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
6805.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
司法公正也不是看身份決定標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
6805.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
6809.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
民主政治不是誰有權利誰就有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
6809.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
6812.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
而是誰都必須遵守同一個道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
6812.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
6817.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
希望法務部能夠拿出具體的查辦標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
6817.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
6818.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
實際的執法成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
6818.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
6821.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
而不是每一次都用依法辦理四個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
6821.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
6823.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
就想交代過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
6823.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
6826.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
因為全民要的不是四個字的答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
6826.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
6828.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
而是他們一輩子可以相信的公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
6829.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
6831.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
6846.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
6847.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
還現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
6849.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
6852.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
我就是因為帶你來這裏瞧這裏瞧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
6853.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
6854.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
我等你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
6854.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
6855.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
好朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
6855.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
6857.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
現在您已經到場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
6857.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
6859.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
所以我要請教這個莊大委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
6859.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
6861.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
您覺得要繼續巡達還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
6861.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
6863.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
因為我之前已經宣告過要休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
6863.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
6865.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
您要休息還是要繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
6866.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
6867.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
哇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
6868.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
6870.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
主席就遵照 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
6870.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
6871.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
6871.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
6873.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
你水大概也喝夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
6873.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
6875.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
你們各位官員喝點水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
6875.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
6877.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
好那前面一個我先 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
6877.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
6879.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
就是這個唱明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
6879.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
6880.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
6880.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
6882.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
我先說完你休息你再休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
6882.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
6883.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
好這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
6883.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
6884.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
6884.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
6886.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
好那我們這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
6886.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
6889.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
我們就要更正先前的宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
6889.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
6892.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
那繼續進行質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
6892.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
6895.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
那下一位是省發會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
6896.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
6898.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
省發會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
6899.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
6901.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
省發會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
6901.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
6902.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
好不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
6902.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
6903.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
好那 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
6903.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
6906.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
6906.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
6908.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
我們林沛祥委員在休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
6908.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
6910.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
要等你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
6910.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
6913.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
好你如果宣告林沛祥休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
6913.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
6915.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
這樣省發會現在不在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
6915.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
6917.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
所以你應該要等他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
6917.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
6918.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
不是他書面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
6918.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
6919.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
他已經書面了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
6919.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
6920.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
那我可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
6920.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
6922.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
我都講出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
6922.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
6923.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
對不起對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
6923.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
6924.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
他書面了當然可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
6924.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
6925.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
你看我對你這麼好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
6925.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
6926.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
是啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
6926.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
6927.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
人情意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
6928.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
6931.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
好那下一位請張瑞雄委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
6934.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
6936.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
謝謝主席主席很英明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
6936.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
6937.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
也體會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
6937.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
6940.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
去體恤大家每一個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
6940.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
6942.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
在立法院的很多的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
6942.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
6944.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
像我們黨團的黨編 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
6944.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
6946.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
我們就每天早上記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
6946.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
6948.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
也是在服務所有的媒體朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
6948.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
6950.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
感謝主席很英明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
6950.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
6951.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
我們請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
6951.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
6953.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
我們我看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
6957.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
6958.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
你今天就要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
6958.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
6960.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
你拜這個你就要問農業部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
6960.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
6962.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
別人叫上去都不是農業部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
6962.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
6963.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
好奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
6963.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
6965.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
農業部黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
6965.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
6967.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
農業部黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
6967.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
6969.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
對你今天就要向農業部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
6969.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
6971.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
你就不敢說出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
6971.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
6973.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
他們要來負責任啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
6973.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
6974.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
好啦全序部好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
6974.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
6976.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
全序部市部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
6977 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
6978 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
黃次長我就不用了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
6978 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
6979 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
黃次長剛上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
6979 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
6981 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
就都在給我們國會上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
6981 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
6982 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
喝個水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
6982 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
6983 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
這都不用啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
6983.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
6984.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
你喝你喝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
6984.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
6987.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
來這個農業部黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
6987.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
6988.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
我先問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
6988.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
6993.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
我看今天稍微排將的一個議程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
6993.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
6995.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
就是對你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
6996.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
6999.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
你們的農業非公用的這個不動產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
6999.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7001.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
去租給政黨來做造勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7001.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7002.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
候選人來造勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7002.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7005.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
我們就聚焦在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7005.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7007.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
那我要請教的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7007.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7009.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
我們一般只要非公用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7009.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7012.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
甚至於其實很多都是公用的不動產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7012.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7016.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
我們照樣在做租借 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7016.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7017.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
我看台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7019.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7020.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
以我個人為例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7020.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7023.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
我過去在當台北市黨部主委的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7023.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7026.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
我們很多政黨的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7026.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
7028.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
比如說我們要改選黨職 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7028.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
7030.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
我也都一照下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7030.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7032.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
石牌國中我們照到不照 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7032.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7034.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
大安高說我們照到不照 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7034.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
7036.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
很多地方其實都會照 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7036.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
7037.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
很正常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7037.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
7038.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
重點是在於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7038.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
7040.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
我聽不懂的地方是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7040.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7042.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
請你們釐清的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7043.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7045.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
陳昭之委員排這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7045.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7046.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
我覺得讓你們講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7046.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7047.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7048.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7050.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
我的意思是說行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7050.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7053.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
政府本來就要嚴守行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7053.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7055.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
行政中立的核心就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7055.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7057.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
有沒有公平對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7057.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7059.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
你有公平對待嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7059.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
7061.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
你說民進黨來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7061.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7063.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
你不做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7063.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7064.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
國民黨來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7064.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7065.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
你就做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7065.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7067.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
民進黨會把你幹掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7067.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7070.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
國民黨來租可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7070.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7072.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
台灣民眾黨來租不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7072.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7075.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
這個陳昭之一定把你批配給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7075.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7076.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
我還會挺他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7076.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7079.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
我會說為什麼國民黨租可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7079.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7080.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
台灣民眾黨就不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7080.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7081.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
你在欺負台灣民眾黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7081.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7083.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
連我民進黨我都看不下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7083.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7085.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
各政黨就這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7085.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7090.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
大家這個是公平的來做一個對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7090.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7093.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
那本案我想請教就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7093.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7096.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
我們2020年水利會改制以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7096.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7099.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
你們到底這款長租跟短租 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7099.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7103.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
你們短租是規範還沒有建立是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7103.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
7104.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
如果沒有建立的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7104.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
7105.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
如果沒有建立的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7105.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7107.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
我認為核心問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7107.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7109.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
今天給他建立規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7109.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7110.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
這個第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7110.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7113.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
你說行政要有定時嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7113.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7115.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
我說假設這個案子是我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7115.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
7117.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
莊瑞雄來承辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7117.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7118.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
我做你們的少年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7118.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7120.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
案子送我這裡來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7120.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7122.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
我會覺得這幾天買給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7122.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7124.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
要給他看看我們不在用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7124.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7126.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
我閒置的土地在那個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7126.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7128.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
我閒置土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7128.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
7129.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
我非公用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7129.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7131.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
尤其是非公用的不動產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7131.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
7133.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
我當然要活化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7133.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7135.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
我可以賺一點錢是好事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7135.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7138.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
為國庫或為機關來做一個進帳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7138.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7141.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
這第一個我反而會肯認 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7141.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7143.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
但是有一個前提就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7143.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7146.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
你不能夠給我做國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7146.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7148.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
你也不能給我做民進黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7148.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7150.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
台灣民眾黨要給他做是沒有用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7150.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7151.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
你就不要做他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7152.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7153.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
交易的部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7153.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7155.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
我第一個想法是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7155.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7157.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
台灣民眾黨去做你不要做他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7158.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7159.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
有這個問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7159.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7160.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7160.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7162.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
因為基本上不管是農水署 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7162.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7165.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
或者是他所屬的這個事業處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7165.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7167.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
基本上都是屬於公務機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7167.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7169.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
我們絕對不會有這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7169.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7173.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
只偏向只能租給某個政黨的這種問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7173.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7175.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
所以基本上只要是我們公開招租 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7175.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7177.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
或者是說他要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7177.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7180.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
因為今天這個案子會有一點尷尬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7180.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7183.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
剛好也就是像委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7183.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7184.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
先回答三個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7184.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7187.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
我們一定沒有什麼顏色黨派之分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7187.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7188.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
任何人來租都可以租 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7188.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7189.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
這是第一個回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7189.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7190.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
第二個部分就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7190.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7192.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
這個案子有一點比較特別就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7192.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7194.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
因為我們今年的4月份 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7194.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7199.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
才從桃園市縣政委這邊取得這塊土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7199.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7201.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
所以我們現在也有一個委託案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7201.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7206.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
要進行長期租約的這樣的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7206.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7209.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
剛好在這個節骨點上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7209.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7212.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
一般的民眾來申請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7212.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7214.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
所謂的臨時的租用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7214.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7217.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
所以我們就依據他們現有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7217.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7221.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
這個租用原則來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7221.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7223.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
那剛剛就成如委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7223.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7227.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
在租用原則處理的這個法規方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7227.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7229.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
確實可能沒有考慮到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7229.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7231.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
所謂的長約短約這樣的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7231.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7233.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
這個後續我們會來做結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7233.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7234.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
趕快制度把它完備啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7234.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7236.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
程序上趕快去完備啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7236.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7238.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
我給他建議啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7239.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7243.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
申請的議案要成招之代表台灣民眾要申請的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7243.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7244.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
時間比較貪心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7244.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7245.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
快一點啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7245.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7246.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
快讓他啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7246.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7248.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
我們一律都是一視同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7248.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7249.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
大家都可以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7249.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7251.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
成招之委員他也不會要求啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7251.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7252.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
黃世傑會看兩天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7252.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7254.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
他會要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7254.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
7256.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
公平對待啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
7256.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
7258.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
各個政黨他去申請的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
7258.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
7260.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
我是認為公平對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
7260.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
7264.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
那一把尺一定要嚴格來建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
7264.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
7266.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
第二個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
7266.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
7268.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
黃世傑去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
7268.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
7270.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
跟成招之委員去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7270.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
7272.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
你租金你也不能有差別 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
7273.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
7275.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
這個是一定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
7275.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
7277.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
因為我們的那個招之原則裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
7277.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
7279.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
他就是已經把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
7279.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
7281.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
這個租約的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
7281.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
7283.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
不同的類型的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
7283.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
7285.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
都已經明確規範了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
7285.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
7287.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
所以不會有相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
7287.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
7289.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
我們是針對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
7289.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
7291.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
不同的類型的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
7291.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
7293.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
費率會有不同的費率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
7293.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
7295.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
但是不會針對個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
7295.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
7297.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
而有所差別啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
7297.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
7299.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
其實你們在說這條問題的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
7299.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
7301.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
我覺得很坦蕩蕩 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
7301.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
7303.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
不管哪一個政黨來打這一題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
7303.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
7305.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
都不會貪啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
7305.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
7307.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
你就跟他說我大家政黨我都公平對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
7307.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
7309.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
我什麼人來我時間盡量把你們索地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
7309.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
7311.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
我手腳我盡量把你們索地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
7311.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
7313.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
我租金也不能說因為我是書長的朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
7313.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
7315.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
我減淡步了都不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
7315.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
7317.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
一致嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
7317.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
7319.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
那你讓一個閒置的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
7319.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
7321.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
在那個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
7321.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
7323.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
好像是民眾有需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
7323.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
7325.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
或者說候選人有需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
7325.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
7327.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
你會覺得我們不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
7327.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
7329.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
我們怕說違反行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
7329.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
7331.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
其實也不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
7331.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
7333.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
部長我請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
7333.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
7335.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
我看你們全序部也有發過文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
7335.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
7337.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
你也覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
7337.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
7339.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
你政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
7339.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
7341.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
跟政治團體在辦多年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
7341.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
7343.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
你們如果說真的就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
7343.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
7345.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
下校也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
7345.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
7347.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
下校你覺得國小國中都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
7347.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
7349.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
比較像他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
7349.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
7351.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
農業部員的農水署 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
7351.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
7353.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
一個沒有在用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
7353.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
7355.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
非公用的不動產區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
7355.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
7357.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
這樣就會違反行政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
7357.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
7359.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
委員我建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
7359.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
7361.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
保訊會應該請你來做一關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
7361.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
7363.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
宣講團 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
7363.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
7365.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
我是聽到一定有教的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
7366.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
7368.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
確實是這樣啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
7368.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
7370.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
行政中立法12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
7370 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
7372 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
跟13條是分別規定不一樣的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
7372 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
7374 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
12條是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
7374 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
7376 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
公務院院長在你長理的行政資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
7376 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
7378 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
這不一定是選舉喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
7378 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
7380 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
任何政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
7380 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
7382 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
或者什麼什麼團體來申請的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
7382 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
7384 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
你都應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
7384 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
7386 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
一視不可有差別對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
7386 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
7388 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
總統這點啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
7387.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
7389.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
這就是你講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
7389.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
7391.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
用個案講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
7391.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
7393.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
所以法條就是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
7393.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
7395.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
你不能因為政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
7395.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
7397.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
或者個人什麼東西有差別對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
7397.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
7399.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
在你的行政資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
7399.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
7401.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
這就是12條了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
7401.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
7403.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
所以以這個個案來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
7403.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
7405.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
跟以前很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
7405.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
7407.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
政府部門的行政資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
7407.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
7409.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
有時候也是在這場地有人用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
7409.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
7411.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
不可能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
7411.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
7413.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
一個政黨來解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
7413.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
7415.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
你給他一個政黨就不好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
7415.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
7417.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
12條的規範這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
7417.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
7419.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
但是這個問題其實也 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
7419.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
7421.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
我在這個地方特別要求我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
7421.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
7423.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
農業部來尤其農水署這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
7423.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
7425.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
你既然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
7425.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
7427.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
你說常駐的部門你如果有幾個出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
7427.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
7429.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
那其實針對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
7429.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
7431.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
要給人民便利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
7431.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
7433.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
給任何團體便利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
7433.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
7435.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
我們的原則是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
7435.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
7437.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
對任何政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
7437.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
7439.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
政治團體我們不做任何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
7439.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
7441.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
差別待遇的時候這種非公用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
7441.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
7443.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
的不動產你要去把它活化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
7443.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
7445.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
不要在那做閒置 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
7445.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
7447.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
我也可以跟你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
7447.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
7449.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
我要辦多少年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
7449.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
7451.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
市長你那塊也請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
7451.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
7453.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
我六年我要停車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
7452.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
7454.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
市長你如果說不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
7454.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
7456.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
我會問你為什麼不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
7456.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
7458.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
錢讓你賺還不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
7458.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
7460.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
你也不可以除非你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
7460.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
7462.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
旁邊全部都是公務機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
7462.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
7464.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
我去跟你借那一塊影響我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
7464.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
7466.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
辦公或者進來人家會覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
7466.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
7468.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
哪一個政黨在挺誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
7468.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
7470.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
挺這個團體的你就對任何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
7470.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
7472.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
政黨我們就不要去做差別待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
7472.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
7474.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
就好了但是那個短租 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
7474.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
7476.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
的部分既然今天問題被 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
7476.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
7478.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
提出來開始為了你建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
7478.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
7480.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
更完善的規範這個合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
7480.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
7482.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
我是認為這個合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
7482.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
7484.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
市長你來我聽你講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
7484.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
7486.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
市長委員指導的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
7486.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
7488.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
完全正確事實上我們應該都 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
7488.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
7490.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
要這樣來做我才敢跟你指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
7490.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
7492.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
這我用膝蓋想也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
7492.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
7494.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
我膝蓋想就是說哪一個政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
7494.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
7496.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
來我就公平對待哪一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
7496.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
7498.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
政治團體來我就公平對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
7498.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
7500.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
這個問題我就百思不得其解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
7500.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
7502.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
我第一個想法是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
7503.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
7505.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
一個閒置的非公用的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
7506.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
7509.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
租給政治團體或者租給候選人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
7509.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
7511.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
你有錢人賺你不賺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
7511.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
7513.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
你說不然我怕人家說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
7513.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
7515.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
天下甘老這個公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
7515.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
7517.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
剛才的事情都很怕我們的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
7517.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
7519.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
就很一致嘛這公務機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
7519.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
7521.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
我在對待的時候我公家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
7521.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
7523.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
機關我就秉持著 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
7523.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
7525.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
我公平的原則來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
7525.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
7527.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
我公正的原則來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
7527.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
7529.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
我甚至會要求你們不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
7529.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
7531.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
給人家刁難以後看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
7531.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
7533.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
台灣民眾黨尤其是看到成朝之委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
7533.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
7535.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
這麼可愛這麼專業對你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
7535.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
7537.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
這麼好的他來就給他時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
7537.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
7539.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
盡量彈性一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
7539.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
7541.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
這樣不行嗎但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
7541.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
7543.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
我覺得整個要大家講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
7543.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
7545.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
是全局部長剛剛也講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
7545.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
7549.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
你就只要機關你秉承公治公平公正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
7549.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
7551.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
7551.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
7553.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
向來都一樣標準都一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
7554.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
7556.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
全世界舉世皆然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
7556.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
7558.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
靠那個都不中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
7558.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
7560.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
在我這個學校裡面我現在在上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
7560.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
7562.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
什麼你要給我做一件教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
7562.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
7564.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
在那邊給我做動算動算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
7564.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
7566.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
我學生要學生你給我影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
7566.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
7568.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
那當然不行啊如果沒有這些狀況的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
7568.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
7570.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
你這個土地放在那裡要做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
7570.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
7572.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
你不做人要做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
7572.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
7574.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
可以做人我們在土地可以有收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
7574.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
7576.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
不然你們講活話再講什麼活話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
7576.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
7578.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
但本席還是要求就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
7578.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
7580.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
該有被質疑的這些規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
7580.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
7582.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
我們不清楚的就把它定清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
7582.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
7584.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
定清楚嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
7584.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
7586.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
就不會飛了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
7586.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
7588.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
跟黃次長一直在上課一直在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
7588.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
7590.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
沒有任何犯罪事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
7590.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
7592.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
他就說一波你就知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
7592.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
7594.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
你就含色不去沒有犯罪事實你叫法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
7594.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
7596.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
他怎麼給你回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
7596.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
7598.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
他就必須要跟你講一些原理原則講一些給你聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
7599.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
7601.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
教理說是要問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
7601.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
7605.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
所以本席要求該建立起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
7605.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
7607.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
有缺漏的制度我們就把它補齊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
7607.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
7609.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
對以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
7609.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
7611.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
所有的政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
7611.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
7615.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
對於公家機關的這種非公用的不動產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
7615.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
7617.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
要去做一個租界 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
7617.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
7619.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
如何給他們便利性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
7619.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
7621.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
不要去做差別待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
7621.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
7623.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
我覺得建立一個規範以這一次來看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
7623.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
7625.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
今天排這個專報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
7625.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
7627.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
有它的一個實意好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
7627.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
7629.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
是我們會要求所有的管理處建立一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
7629.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
7631.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
然後更細緻的這個規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
7631.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
7633.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
再細緻的做起來以後大家也可以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
7633.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
7635.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
以前農業部去用批評就一件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
7635.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
7637.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
所以整個大家越聽越清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
7637.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
7639.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
這是好事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
7639.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
7641.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
各政黨各縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
7641.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
7643.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
不管是中央或者地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
7643.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
7645.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
大家把制度把它講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
7645.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
7647.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
比較不適合選舉大家在飛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
7647.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
7649.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
7649.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
7651.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
謝謝加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
7651.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
7653.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
莊大維有所不知啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
7653.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
7655.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
農田水利署他們自己有個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
7655.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
7657.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
進15萬以內才可以進行處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
7657.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
7659.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
不用公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
7659.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
7661.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
一行違法在先嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
7661.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
7663.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
要就違法嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
7663.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
7665.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
剛才讓你們動心應對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
7665.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
7667.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
讓他們去檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
7667.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
7669.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
7669.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
7671.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
如果這條民眾黨來它反對你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
7671.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
7673.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
我替你出聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
7673.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
7675.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
不是嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
7675.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
7677.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
有人先打破這個戰法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
7677.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
7679.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
他們要檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
7679.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
7681.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
不管誰來執政 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
7681.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
7683.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
我們想台灣社會大家就是一個很公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
7683.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
7685.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
一個很公正公平的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
7685.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
7687.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
我站那邊讓你質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
7687.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
7689.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
我剛才是說小金剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
7689.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
7691.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
他的綽號我都叫出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
7691.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
7693.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
你們的辦法先違法嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
7693.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
7695.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
有所不知 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
7695.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
7697.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
我尊敬的詹委員我已經結束了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
7697.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
7699.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
言行一致最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
7699.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
7701.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
法條跟做法一致最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
7701.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
7703.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
謝謝詹委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
7708.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
7710.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
我們下一位委員是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
7710.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
7712.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
登記是鍾嘉斌委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
7712.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
7714.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
鍾嘉斌委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
7715.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
7717.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
鍾嘉斌委員他不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
7718.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
7720.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
邱志偉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
7720.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
7722.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
邱志偉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
7723.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
7725.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
邱志偉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
7725.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
7727.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
7730.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
7732.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
心虛啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
7732.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
7734.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
我們下一位請林茜琪委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
7734.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
7736.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
林茜琪委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
7747.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
7749.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
謝謝我們的主席陳昭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
7749.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
7751.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
我們請法務部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
7751.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
7753.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
法務部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
7753.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
7755.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
今天出席的黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
7755.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
7757.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
還有我們全區部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
7757.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
7759.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
有請黃次長全區部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
7759.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
7761.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
市部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
7763.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
7765.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
7765.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
7767.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
市長部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
7767.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
7771.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
兩位本席想要先請教一個法律的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
7771.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
7779.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
是不是請次長可以針對本席接下來提的公職人員選罷法的第50條的規定 |
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來跟本席分享一下你的法律見解 |
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這個規定是在中央跟地方政府的各級機關 |
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在法定競選活動期間不得從事 |
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任何與競選宣傳有關的活動 |
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但是假設一個機關首長在執行公務所到的場所 |
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還是在處於執行公務或隨時待命的期間 |
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那明知在場的人士呢 |
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具有特定候選人競選總幹事的身份 |
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那麼主動的展示候選人的競選宣傳的圖樣 |
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而且由對方在拍攝 |
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那這個照片後來又成為競選團隊成員 |
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搭配支持候選人的這個名字 |
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公開發布到社群平台 |
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那麼實際產生了競選宣傳的這個效果 |
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這樣子的一個背景下的本期請教次長 |
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請教兩位 |
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判斷有沒有從事競選宣傳有關之活動 |
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究竟是要看行為的實質目的與最終成果 |
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還是只要使用私人手機就變成私人行為 |
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另外呢在宣傳素材 |
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不是機關首長自己上網發布 |
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而是明知道有這樣子的事實或可能性 |
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來配合競選團隊成員來拍攝 |
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再由對方來公開發布 |
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能不能就當然排除其參與競選宣傳活動的可能 |
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那最後呢如果上述的事實 |
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發生在第40條所訂的法定競選活動期間 |
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那麼次長部長你們覺得這樣子一個法律的解釋上 |
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是不是至少已經具備有第50條宣稱的 |
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與競選宣傳有關之活動 |
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而必須進一步審查的可能性 |
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那麼就請你們就這個本席所提的三點回答 |
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然後不需要就個案來評論 |
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跟委員報告 |
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當然委員提到選罷法主管機關當然是內政部 |
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那委員提到那我就試著就是說 |
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第一個選罷法把第50條它這個期間 |
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前提它必須要是在競選的期間內 |
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發生的這些宣傳活動才會構成 |
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那競選期間我們選罷法它在第40條其實有一些規範 |
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它必須要在這一個 |
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每一種不同的選舉它有不同的所謂的競選期間的規範 |
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所以它你想講這個行為必須要發生在 |
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選罷法第40條所規定的這個競選期間內 |
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才有可能該當這個剛選罷法就提到的第50條 |
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這個第一個 |
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那第二個就是說第一個它從事的行為必須要 |
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跟它競選有關的相關的活動 |
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才會可能構成50條的問題 |
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那是不是競選有關的活動它當然就會涉及到個案 |
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這不可能不涉及到個案 |
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這個時候就必須要有個案去做判斷 |
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就法規面的部分 |
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雖然我們不是主管機關 |
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但我對這兩條的理解是在這邊跟各位報告 |
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那所以剛才本席所提的這三點呢 |
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有關於這個實質目的最終效果 |
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還有手機的一個使用 |
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跟是不是私人行為與否 |
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然後當然您這邊講說有沒有競選的配合 |
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那如果是在期間跟時間外 |
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那這樣一個模糊的空間 |
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如果就你這樣講就由內政部去認定嗎 |
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這個必須要個案去判斷 |
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那第一個部分就是說如果這個 |
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有關於行為、實質目的跟最終效果 |
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還有使用私人手機的這個區塊 |
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這也是要個案去認定嗎 |
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那當然是個案 |
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前提國務委員報告 |
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前提它必須要發生在競選期間喔 |
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40條那個競選期間才會該當這50條的構成要件 |
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那本席接下來來談一下 |
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那現行的法律如果以直轄市長的選舉為例 |
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那麼法定競選活動期間 |
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只有在投票日前的15天 |
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那也就是說同樣的政治宣傳行為 |
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如果在15天以前 |
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那第50條就不能處理吧 |
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或是未必能夠處理是嗎 |
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對,如果委員你提的是第50條 |
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它的確規範的非常清楚 |
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它必須要競選期間 |
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那第10期間是什麼時間 |
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直轄市市長在第40條的第一項第一款 |
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他規定的確就是前15天 |
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所以你要單純就50條 |
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他的確會有委員剛所提的這個期間的問題沒有錯 |
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好,那所以接下來本席就請教我們部長全區部長 |
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所以在公務人員行政中立法主要是規範長任的文官 |
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那政治任命的部會首長、政務委委員 |
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也不會全面受到相同的行政中立的規範 |
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那麼如果是基層公務人員都不能利用上半時間行政資源 |
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替候選人來助選 |
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但是真正掌握部會預算 |
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人事政策跟龐大行政資源的政務官 |
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以及缺...反而缺乏一套比較完整的系統 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
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來明確做政治活動參與或配合的一個規範 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
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那請問這應該要怎麼辦呢 |
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跟委員報告,這個行政中立法裡面有規範很特定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
8099.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
8103.23 |
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所謂政治性任命的是比較是獨立機關的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
8103.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
8105.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
那所謂其他的... |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
8107.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
8112.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
外界講的政務人員確實他的行為不是規範在行政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
8112.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
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但是行政中立法規範一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
8114.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
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如果你是一個機關首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
8116.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
8118.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
因為政務人員也可能當機關首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
8119.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
8124.75 |
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只要回到剛剛講選舉公告以後到投票這中間的期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
8124.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
8126.75 |
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你應該要禁止所有... |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
8127.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
8130.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
其他候選人或公職候選人或各式各樣政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
8130.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
8133.55 |
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到你機關裡面去有任何造訪的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
8133.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
8135.55 |
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你們一直在講這個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
8135.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
8137.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
那麼本席要強調的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
8137.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
8138.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
本席要強調的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
8138.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
8140.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
其實剛才那個莊委員在講一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
8140.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
8143.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
你們這邊也回應他一些懲戒的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
8143.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
8146.55 |
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那相關機關的懲...就是有一些這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
8146.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
8148.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
我們談的這個相關個案的這個懲戒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
8148.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
8150.55 |
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都要回到各機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
8150.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
8152.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
可是呢如果首長是不中立的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
8152.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
8154.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
那我覺得各機關真的也很難做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
8154.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
8156.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
就是在法條跟實務操作上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
8156.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
8160.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
其實還是有很大的一個不一致的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
8160.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
8163.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
但是我們再回到剛才我們所講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
8163.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
8166.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
如果行政院長、部長、政務委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
8166.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
8168.55 |
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都是官派也不是人民直選 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
8168.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
8173.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
那麼但是他們卻掌握了國家很大的行政權力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
8173.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
8178.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
那麼法律呢如果只要求下面的幾十萬的長任公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
8178.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
8180.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
來行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
8180.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
8185.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
但對下面的政務官的限制相對是有很多的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
8185.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
8186.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
灰色地帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
8186.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
8190.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
那你不覺得這個狀況還滿荒謬的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
8191.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
8195.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
我不知道你們怎麼樣去看待這樣子的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
8195.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
8198.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
每次要選舉的時候或接近選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
8198.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
8202.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
都會有這樣子的一個大家提出來的質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
8202.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
8203.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
那你們怎麼看待 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
8204.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
8208.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
國務委員報告這個我想任何的制度本身的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
8208.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
8212.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
當然還有很多其他條件大家一起來共同讓它實現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
8212.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
8214.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
不過至少就行政中立法對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
8214.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
8218.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
因為政務人員大部分都是擔任長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
8218.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
8221.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
那對長官我剛剛講除了有十三條以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
8221.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
8224.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
那另外長官也不可以違法指示 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
8224.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
8227.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
他說同仁的做任何違反行政中立的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
8227.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
8229.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
如果他做這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
8229.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
8230.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
我想最後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
8230.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
8232.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
那個他上級長官當然可以講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
8232.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
8233.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
上級長官如果不處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
8233.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
8237.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
最後可以到監察案去做這個提起這個個案的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
8237.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
8239.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
好我們今天就全序部的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
8239.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
8242.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
那全序部來掌理整個公務人員的服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
8242.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
8247.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
還有行政中立相關的法令的擬議跟解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
8247.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
8252.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
那目前立法院也要再審查政務人員法的一個相關草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
8252.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
8257.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
那最主要的問題就是和政務人員的這個行為奮進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
8257.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
8261.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
行政中立還有責任制度其實到現在還很不完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
8261.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
8263.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
那請你們表達看法最主要是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
8263.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
8265.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
那麼在政務人員的法制的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
8265.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
8269.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
是不是應該要明定政務官不得於執行公務期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
8269.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
8272.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
或辦公或辦公公務的場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
8272.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
8275.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
那跟他職務身份相關的行政資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
8275.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
8283.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
還有為特定政黨或候選人製作參與或協助競選宣傳的一些工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
8283.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
8285.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
所以法治主管的權責這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
8285.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
8288.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
全序部考試院不是應該負起責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
8288.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
8290.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
在本席認為這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
8290.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
8293.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
在法治面既然我們有這麼多的個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
8293.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
8295.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
那我們其實強調的是整個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
8295.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
8298.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
那你們也知道制度上的一些困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
8298.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
8302.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
那所以在這個部分呢我們也不希望求援兼裁判 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
8302.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
8307.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
所以法律不能對常任文官的這個高強高主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
8307.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
8309.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
卻對政務官來開大門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
8309.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
8313.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
所以在當我們進入這個法條的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
8313.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
8316.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
我也希望你們能夠就目前個案的這個經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
8316.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
8318.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
然後在制度面可以建立得更完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
8319.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
8325.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
好那接下來本席要請這個應該農田農 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
8325.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
8328.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
農業部次長跟署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
8328.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
8330.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
黃次長跟署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
8331.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
8333.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
謝謝那兩位請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
8336.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
8340.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
我想今天要問的問題也不是新鮮的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
8340.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
8345.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
這兩天都有委員提出來這個有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
8345.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
8348.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
能非公用土地租借的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
8348.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
8351.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
那剛才本席前一位那個莊人衛雄委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
8351.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
8354.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
用很風趣的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
8354.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
8358.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
試圖把這整個問題的一個嚴肅性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
8358.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
8360.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
做一些稀釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
8360.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
8362.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
但是我們還是要回到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
8362.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
8365.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
我們在公務部門的一個嚴肅的主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
8365.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
8368.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
所以其實在剛才莊委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
8368.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
8371.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
我想你們也應該知道本席要質詢什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
8371.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
8375.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
我還是把這個背景清楚交代一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
8375.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
8378.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
那你們在國有土地出租公平性的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
8378.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
8380.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
是本席接下來要討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
8381.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
8383.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
跟辯證的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
8383.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
8386.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
所以市長候選人我們講桃園 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
8386.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
8390.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
應該是法務部大家都很熟悉的次長黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
8390.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
8394.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
租用了農田水利署的中壢區的中運段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
8395.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
8400.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
145地號土地舉行辦理大象的大型的一個選舉活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
8400.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
8403.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
整個面積是1655坪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
8403.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
8405.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
那使用了兩天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
8405.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
8409.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
那麼農水署的說法是租金81700元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
8409.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
8411.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
那外界很質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
8411.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
8413.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
不僅是對錢有質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
8413.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
8416.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
對於這個土地的租借也很質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
8416.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
8419.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
那剛才其實招職委員在回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
8419.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
8421.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
在補充莊瑞雄委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
8421.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
8425.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
試圖想要把它作為一個公平性的討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
8425.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
8426.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
8426.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
8428.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
也做了一些回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
8428.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
8431.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
那最重要的是你們自己有一個規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
8432.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
8433.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
為什麼大家有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
8433.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
8435.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
就是你們的規定裡面明定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
8435.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
8441.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
農田水利非事業用不動產活化收益辦法第19條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
8441.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
8442.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
原則上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
8442.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
8445.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
非事業用的不動產出租 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
8445.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
8447.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
應該要公開標出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
8447.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
8448.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
8448.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
8452.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
整個的例外是包括年租金沒有達到15萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
8452.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
8454.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
才可以盡予出租 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
8454.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
8456.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
那第21條又規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
8456.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
8462.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
一般土地年租金不得低於當期土地申報地價總額的5% |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
8462.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
8464.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
雖然剛才莊委員有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
8464.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
8466.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
反正各政黨就出租好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
8466.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
8467.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
8469.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
8472.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
所以大家是針對這個規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
8472.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
8476.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
你們似乎在這個規定裡面沒有好好的遵守 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
8476.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
8478.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
而且已經有這個違法的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
8478.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
8481.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
所以我們才有這樣子的一個質詢跟討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
8481.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
8482.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
所以這塊土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
8482.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
8486.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
如果按照申報地價來計算年租金的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
8486.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
8488.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
它是遠高於15萬元的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
8488.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
8491.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
但是你們農水署的說法卻是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
8491.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
8493.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
因為實際只使用了兩天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
8493.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
8496.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
租金只有8萬1000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
8497.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
8499.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
所以可以盡予出租 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
8499.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
8500.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
都不用說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
8500.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
8502.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
你們在解釋法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
8502.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
8503.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
8503.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
8504.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
對不起 次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
8504.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
8508.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
第19條所稱的年租金沒有達15萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
8508.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
8513.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
那本席這邊認為是依照21條計算出來的年租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
8513.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
8515.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
那麼農業部也引述 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
8515.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
8518.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
農業部農田水利署石門管理處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
8518.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
8520.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
非事業用地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
8520.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
8522.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
出租的這個原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
8522.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
8524.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
的內部行政規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
8524.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
8526.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
而且只是一個行政規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
8526.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
8530.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
本席沒有看到農業部提出的折算公式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
8531.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
8534.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
所以未來任何高價值的國有土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
8534.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
8536.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
是不是都會透過這樣的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
8536.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
8539.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
來規避公開標誌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
8539.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
8543.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
那這個解釋恐怕是造成制度很大的漏洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
8544.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
8547.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
那另外本席也關注所謂的公平性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
8547.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
8550.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
那麼農水署是不是對所有政黨候選人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
8550.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
8552.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
都使用一視同仁的申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
8552.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
8555.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
租金查定及場地使用的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
8555.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
8558.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
那麼一般民眾如果申請同一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
8558.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
8563.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
1655坪土地來辦理兩天的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
8563.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
8567.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
那都是以81700元左右來承租嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
8567.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
8569.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
那其他政黨候選人是不是也享有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
8569.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
8573.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
完全相同的申請管道與條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
8573.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
8575.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
那你們之後也不要再說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
8575.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
8577.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
因為有這個個案未來就不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
8577.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
8579.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
你不能先違法再簽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
8579.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
8583.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
然後再用違法的情勢來排除其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
8584.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
8586.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
公平的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
8586.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
8590.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
所以本席認為農業部應該要把標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
8590.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
8593.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
還有計算的公式跟審查的流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
8593.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
8596.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
跟過去類似的短租出租案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
8596.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
8599.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
全部公開讓社會來檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
8599.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
8601.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
那我們不能說這次我們沒有審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
8601.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
8603.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
不知道短租長租 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
8603.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
8606.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
剛才莊惠元先生在幫你們想辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
8606.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
8608.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
說應該在未來的檢討上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
8608.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
8611.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
短租長租要有一些討論啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
8611.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
8612.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
然後再制定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
8612.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
8614.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
但是已發生的已發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
8614.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
8616.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
那這樣子的爭議疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
8616.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
8618.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
應該讓社會各界所了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
8619.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
8621.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
8620.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
8622.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
請市長做一個回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
8650.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
8652.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
那事實上這塊土地是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
8652.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
8656.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
土地循收交換過來的這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
8656.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
8658.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
區分徵收交換過來的這樣的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
8658.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
8660.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
所以他在今年的4月才點交 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
8660.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
8662.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
那所以我們其實也是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
8662.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
8664.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
他做長期的這個活化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
8664.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
8668.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
所以有委託公司在做長期活化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
8668.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
8669.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
這樣的一個規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
8669.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
8671.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
那但是在這個規劃的過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
8671.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
8672.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
目前已經在做規劃了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
8672.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
8674.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
對目前已經在規劃有標案了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
8674.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
8676.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
那所以在做這個規劃的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
8676.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
8678.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
空窗期這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
8678.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
8680.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
有人提出來他要利用的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
8680.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
8682.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
我們都非常的歡迎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
8682.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
8685.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
那當然後面如果有整個那個要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
8685.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
8688.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
長期的這個公開照標的那個案子的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
8688.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
8691.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
那當然就是那個時間點就會告一個中斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
8691.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
8693.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
所以本席也要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
8693.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
8697.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
如果還有其他單位提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
8697.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
8699.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
你們不能以目前這個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
8699.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
8702.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
作為規避的一個手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
8702.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
8705.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
那另外你們要確實的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
8705.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
8707.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
那其實是有內規的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
8707.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
8709.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
就算是一個行政規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
8709.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
8711.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
也是有一個依循 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
8711.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
8712.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
也是有一個依循 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
8712.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
8715.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
所以應該不是沒有標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
8715.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
8717.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
然後大家在這裡面有誤失 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
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所以就如同陳昭之委員所講的 |
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你們是違法在先嘛 |
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8724.84 |
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所以大家才會有這樣的疑慮嘛 |
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好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
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所以很重要就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
8730.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
在選舉期間行政機關要讓大家相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
8730.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
8733.84 |
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這個國國土地不是任何候選人的競選資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
8733.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
8736.84 |
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那也不能因為申請人的政治身分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
8738.84 |
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家庭背景或主管機關的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
8738.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
8741.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
讓社會產生差別待遇的疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
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我想這個部分就是我們今天討論這個主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
8744.84 |
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8747.84 |
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除了對於先前這個個案的一些微思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
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那我們也希望在接下來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
8751.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
8753.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
過程當中大家能夠被公平對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
8755.91 |
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然後最重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
8757.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
當然很多委員也提出一些意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
8757.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
8759.91 |
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假設你們要分短租或長租 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
8762.91 |
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那還是要有一個讓外界不會疑慮的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
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OK好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
8767.91 |
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那就請相關單位回去做個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
8767.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
8768.91 |
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那最後有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
8768.91 |
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8772.91 |
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抱歉喔那個法務那個次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
8772.91 |
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不知道黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
8775.91 |
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那再請上來一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
8777.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
8779.85 |
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很快的本期這邊要請教法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
8781.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
在擴大異科罰金跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
8781.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
8783.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
異輔社會搗動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
8783.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
8786.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
跟還有放寬罰金分歧政策的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
8786.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
8788.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
那目前地線的反應是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
8788.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
8791.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
這個監索的壓力雖然可能減輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
8791.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
8793.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
但是工作其實是沒有消失 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
8793.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
8794.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
他只是被挪移了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
8798.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
結果好像是移往了這個地檢署的執行科 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
8798.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
8800.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
書記官跟關戶人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
8801.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
那麼分歧繳納 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
8801.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
8803.85 |
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因為每一期都要追蹤列管 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
8805.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
那如果沒有暗示繳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
8805.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
8806.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
又要催繳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
8806.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
8808.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
那麼傳喚具體呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
8808.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
8809.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
又要重新通緝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
8809.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
8811.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
有的時候會要重新通緝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
8811.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
8813.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
那所以呢整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
8813.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
8815.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
已經通緝了具體到案的受刑人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
8815.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
8820.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
可能還又可能再進入到這個分歧審核的一個程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
8820.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
8822.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
那我們試圖想要減輕一些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
8822.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
8825.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
可是這個可能這個單位減輕了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
8825.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
8826.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
結果又變成另外一個單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
8826.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
8831.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
那這個增加了一些比較詳盡的這個手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
8831.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
8835.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
結果又增加了其他一些反覆的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
8835.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
8837.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
步驟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
8837.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
8839.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
所以法務部在推動這項政策的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
8839.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
8841.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
有沒有事先估算過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
8841.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
8844.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
每增加一件分歧的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
8844.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
8846.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
那社會勞動的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
8846.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
8848.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
會增加多少執行科書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
8848.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
8850.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
關戶人的一個行政負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
8850.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
8851.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
那另外呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
8851.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
8852.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
在高檢署的會議裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
8852.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
8854.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
也有檢察官反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
8854.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
8856.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
現在的這個案管系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
8856.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
8859.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
雖然有到期了會警示 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
8859.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
8862.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
但是實務上不一定會正常跳出提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
8862.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
8863.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
那現在政策擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
8863.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
8864.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
案件量又增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
8864.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
8868.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
那最後還是會有這個漏追漏吹 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
8868.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
8871.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
甚至已經在執行的案件又失控 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
8871.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
8873.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
那法務部也沒有設定期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
8873.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
8875.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
把案管的系統分歧警示 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
8875.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
8879.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
違約提醒還有催繳追蹤的這個功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
8879.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
8881.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
全面做一個修正改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
8881.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
8884.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
那另外在去年每一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
8884.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
8887.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
就是2025年的每一名關戶人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
8887.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
8889.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
平均受理的案件已經超過500件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
8889.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
8890.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
那近五年來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
8890.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
8892.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
社會勞動的案件成長量是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
8892.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
8894.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
17.4% |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
8894.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
8897.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
那麼整個比現在整個社會勞動的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
8897.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
8899.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
還在持續的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
8899.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
8901.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
那是不是要同步去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
8901.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
8904.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
人力跟執行機構量能的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
8905.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
8907.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
市長這邊是不是可以先做一個回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
8907.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
8908.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
那個疫情處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
8908.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
8911.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
基本上我們是對那些經濟上的弱勢者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
8911.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
8914.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
不應該把他就是因為他經濟上的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
8914.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
8915.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
而把他入監服刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
8915.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
8917.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
所以我們這個基本上的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
8917.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
8919.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
是針對他經濟上的弱者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
8919.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
8921.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
我們提高他的分歧的起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
8921.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
8924.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
讓他比較能夠籌出一顆髮巾的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
8924.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
8926.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
不要因為你是經濟上弱者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
8926.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
8928.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
就必須要現實的入監服刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
8928.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
8929.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
這個是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
8929.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
8932.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
他一旦這個有錢可以籌得多奇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
8932.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
8934.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
他可以一顆髮巾出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
8934.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
8936.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
他就不會進到監獄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
8936.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
8940.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
當然這個會增加數據觀檢察官相關的行政工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
8940.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
8941.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
當然會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
8941.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
8944.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
因為他從我們就從8期讓他延期到12期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
8944.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
8946.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
當然他會增加一些行政上的成本沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
8946.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
8948.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
但這個行政成本來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
8948.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
8950.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
我們另外有一些相配套的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
8950.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
8952.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
我們讓他延長之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
8952.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
8954.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
我們也鬆綁了相關數據觀管考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
8954.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
8956.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
跟相關的管考上的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
8956.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
8958.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
我們以前辦案都一定的辦案期限 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
8958.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
8959.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
我們辦案延長之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
8959.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
8961.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
我們也讓數據觀的辦案期限延長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
8961.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
8963.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
我們管考也鬆綁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
8963.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
8967.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
讓數據觀監察官願意做這個疫情的處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
8967.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
8971.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
所以他的確會增加數據觀一些相關行政成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
8971.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
8973.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
但是在行政檢察行政上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
8973.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
8975.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
我們也鬆綁他相關的管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
8975.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
8976.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
這第一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
8976.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
8978.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
第二點您提到的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
8978.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
8981.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
那這個政策會不會有其他相配套的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
8981.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
8983.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
當然我們一旦的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
8983.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
8986.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
他義服社會勞動的這個可能性之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
8986.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
8988.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
我們就要多一些社會勞動的機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
8988.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
8990.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
讓他可以去做這社會勞動的機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
8990.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
8994.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
所以我們也要求全國各地檢署的檢察官檢察長們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
8994.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
8998.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
你要去廣泛的去找一些比較優質的社會勞動機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
8998.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
9002.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
讓這些社勞人以後可以去從事相關的社勞工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
9002.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
9006.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
所以這是我們也是要求他們比較相關配合的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
9006.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
9007.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
另外我已經提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
9007.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
9009.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
我們推行這個政策之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
9009.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
9011.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
我們一些行政上的一些措施要配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
9011.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
9014.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
剛剛我提到一些當然是非常精細的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
9014.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
9015.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
非常細節的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
9015.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
9017.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
細節的部分 數據性的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
9017.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
9020.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
包括一些電腦相關的設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
9020.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
9023.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
要不要有一些處理會不會碰到一些困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
9023.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
9027.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
因為這個政策我們推行大概現在大概兩三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
9027.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
9030.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
他只整個由台高檢所主機負責統籌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
9030.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
9033.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
那如果細節上有委員應該提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
9033.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
9035.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
電腦或系統上要做配合的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
9035.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
9038.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
我相信台高檢在施行政策一陣子之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
9038.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
9042.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
他會做出相關的修正或做相關的檢討跟改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
9043.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
9045.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
所以本席在這邊今天有提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
9045.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
9047.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
那我也希望就是台高檢這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
9047.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
9049.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
因為本席提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
9049.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
9052.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
所以他也要趕快一起follow |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
9052.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
9053.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
那這個政策的一個細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
9053.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
9056.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
那既然會有這樣第一線人員反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
9056.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
9058.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
應該在你們政策執行上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
9058.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
9061.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
雖然也有放寬了一些條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
9061.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
9065.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
但是或許在條件跟這個政策的執行上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
9065.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
9068.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
還沒有達到比例一致的這個平衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
9068.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
9071.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
所以會有現在這樣一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
9071.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
9074.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
所以或許你們也應該是在檢視一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
9074.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
9076.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
那麼你們所放寬的這個期限 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
9076.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
9079.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
或是放寬的相對措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
9079.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
9082.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
是不是真的符合目前第一線的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
9082.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
9084.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
那我想雖然是進行了幾個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
9084.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
9086.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
既然本席這邊提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
9086.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
9089.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
那我想你們可以同步的在觀察目前的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
9089.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
9092.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
然後未來如果真的需要再做一些調整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
9092.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
9094.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
那也是聽聽第一線的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
9094.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
9096.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
看看目前的狀況如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
9096.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
9098.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
所以當然最重要就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
9098.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
9100.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
本席這邊也支持疫情的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
9100.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
9103.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
但是不能只做到讓人不要進監所 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
9103.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
9107.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
但整個政策執行又陷入這個混亂的不確定當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
9107.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
9109.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
那重點就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
9109.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
9112.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
監所的減壓不能成為地檢署的這個加壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
9112.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
9115.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
那我們也當然知道我們人類 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
9115.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
9119.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
人力的這個匱乏是我們現在整體的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
9119.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
9122.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
那每一個領域都有它不同的一個強度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
9122.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
9124.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
但是長期性的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
9124.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
9126.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
我們也是必須要在短期性的政策推動上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
9126.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
9130.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
然後檢視然後去做一個比較細節性的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
9130.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
9132.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
9134.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
9136.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
好 謝謝林慶徐委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
9140.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
9144.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
我們下一位是政政前委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
9145.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
9147.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
政政前委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
9147.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
9149.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
政政前委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
9150.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
9152.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
9151.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
9153.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
那再請下一位是泛影委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
9153.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
9155.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
請進行您的答詩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
9155.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
9157.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
9158.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
9160.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
9166.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
9168.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
謝謝昭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
9168.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
9170.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
有請法務部次長黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
9170.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
9172.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
9174.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
9176.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
9176.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
9178.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
次長早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
9178.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
9180.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
首先謝謝昭偉排今天這個主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
9180.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
9184.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
那因為關於公務機關如何保持行政中立的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
9184.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
9188.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
那我非常的贊同剛剛莊瑞選委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
9188.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
9190.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
那我的意見也跟他就是一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
9190.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
9192.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
那關於會選的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
9192.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
9194.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
我昨天有質詢過部長了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
9194.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
9196.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
那今天我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
9196.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
9200.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
針對一個我長期監督的議題想跟次長請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
9200.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
9202.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
那請問次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
9202.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
9204.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
您覺得檢察官的培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
9204.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
9206.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
性平意識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
9206.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
9208.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
他的賠力現在跟上了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
9208.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
9210.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
效果如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
9210.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
9212.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
9212.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
9214.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
有關於檢察官性平意識的培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
9214.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
9216.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
那分兩個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
9216.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
9218.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
兩部分跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
9218.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
9220.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
當然是在我們檢察官的養成的階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
9220.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
9222.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
就是在我們的司法官訓練的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
9222.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
9224.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
學院的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
9224.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
9226.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
另外一部分當然是我們在職的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
9226.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
9228.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
在檢察官學院的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
9228.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
9230.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
性平點意識的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
9230.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
9232.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
我們這個社長學院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
9232.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
9234.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
類似的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
9234.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
9236.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
我現在手上的資料近三年來他已經辦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
9236.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
9238.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
三十一場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
9238.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
9240.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
甚至有一千多人已經有參與相關的培訓的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
9240.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
9242.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
這是有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
9242.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
9244.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
新進 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
9244.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
9246.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
檢察官的培訓的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
9246.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
9248.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
那在職檢察官的部分我們也不能夠放棄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
9248.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
9250.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
在職檢察官的部分他更重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
9250.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
9252.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
因為在職檢察官的部分我們除了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
9252.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
9254.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
我們注意到這個性別平權的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
9254.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
9256.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
所以我們相關有關性別平權的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
9256.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
9258.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
我們基本上就分給我們專屬的檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
9258.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
9260.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
我們檢察官有分專屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
9260.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
9262.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
專屬就有婦幼的專屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
9262.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
9264.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
專屬的檢察官他做專門的訓練的檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
9264.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
9266.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
他有專門知識經驗的檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
9266.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
9268.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
來做相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
9268.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
9270.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
這個案件的偵辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
9270.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
9272.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
但是專屬的檢察官我們在日常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
9272.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
9274.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
我們在職的訓練我們也不斷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
9274.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
9276.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
提供相關的在職的訓練的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
9276.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
9278.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
或國際上的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
9278.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
9280.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
研討會我們要求我們在職檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
9280.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
9282.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
也必須要參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
9282.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
9284.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
但是參與的各個安排上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
9284.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
9286.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
我們也要注意到性平意識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
9286.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
9288.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
我們也常常邀請NGO來當我們的講師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
9288.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
9290.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
由這個NGO的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
9290.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
9292.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
來灌輸我們相關的性平意識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
9292.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
9294.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
所以這部分我們從多重管道去做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
9294.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
9296.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
你們的確有上課了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
9296.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
9298.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
那我比較關心的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
9298.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
9300.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
那上課了效果到底是好還不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
9300.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
9302.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
有沒有譬如說本來沒有性別敏感度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
9302.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
9304.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
上了課之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
9304.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
9306.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
是不是真的有性別敏感度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
9306.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
9308.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
因為我其實也偶爾會受邀 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
9308.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
9310.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
還沒有從政之前去幫忙上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
9310.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
9312.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
那其實講師到底是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
9312.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
9314.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
那其實講師到底是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
9314.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
9316.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
那其實講師到底講得好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
9316.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
9318.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
那大家有沒有在滑手機在聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
9318.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
9320.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
其實差異會很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
9320.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
9322.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
9322.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
9324.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
其實我相信我們司法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
9324.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
9326.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
他的數字是非常好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
9326.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
9328.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
那如果說相關的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
9328.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
9330.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
只要有這個課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
9330.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
9332.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
我們國家注重這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
9332.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
9334.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
其中檢察官他都會非常在意這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
9334.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
9336.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
更何況我們課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
9336.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
9338.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
我們整個在職也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
9338.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
9340.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
學院也好這麼重視這個課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
9340.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
9342.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
我們的檢察官他是會非常在意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
9342.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
9344.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
這個意識的養成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
9344.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
9346.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
跟相關技能的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
9346.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
9348.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
現在我比較擔心的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
9348.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
9350.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
如果只是次長覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
9350.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
9352.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
就是說會非常好大家會非常在意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
9352.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
9354.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
沒有一個可以讓大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
9354.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
9356.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
說服的一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
9356.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
9358.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
9358.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
9360.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
那所以我今天是想借一個題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
9360.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
9362.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
跟次長討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
9362.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
9364.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
這件事情真的非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
9364.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
9366.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
9366.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
9368.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
這怎麼好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
9368.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
9370.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
就是不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
9370.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
9372.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
就是各地檢署 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
9372.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
9374.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
9374.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
9376.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
就是研究過這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
9376.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
9378.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
因為我們性侵害的案件起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
9378.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
9380.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
的狀況這邊是我辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
9380.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
9382.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
用法務部的資料來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
9382.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
9384.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
就是你可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
9384.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
9386.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
上面是偵查終結的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
9386.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
9388.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
總人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
9388.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
9390.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
下面是幾乎是一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
9390.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
9392.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
平平的線就是起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
9392.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
9394.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
的人數那差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
9394.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
9396.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
那當然一定會有差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
9396.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
9398.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
那這裡面大概是30% |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
9398.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
9400.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
那不知道次長了不了解這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
9400.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
9402.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
因為就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
9402.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
9404.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
要能夠經歷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
9404.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
9406.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
這些的性侵害雖然是公訴罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
9406.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
9408.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
那可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
9408.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
9410.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
在證據上非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
9410.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
9412.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
難以取得因為他經常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
9412.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
9414.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
會在比較私密的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
9414.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
9416.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
裡面幾乎不會是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
9416.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
9418.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
在公共場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
9418.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
9420.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
那而且很多的時候可能會發生在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
9420.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
9422.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
一個突然的狀態那這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
9422.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
9424.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
不起訴的案件約 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
9424.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
9426.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
94%是因為嫌疑不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
9427.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
9429.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
9429.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
9431.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
那立新基金會我們婦女團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
9431.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
9433.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
就是去年就有特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
9433.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
9435.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
表達意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
9435.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
9437.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
他們覺得性侵案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
9437.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
9439.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
起訴率只有三成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
9439.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
9441.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
其實制度不夠友善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
9441.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
9443.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
因為就是制度要友善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
9443.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
9445.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
才能夠真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
9445.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
9447.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
讓大家覺得這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
9447.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
9449.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
是公平的那他們根據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
9449.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
9451.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
他們的研究因為他是一個做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
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性暴力輔導 |
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9455.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
受害人支持受害人的重要 |
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9457.78 |
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團體他們看到的是 |
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9459.78 |
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這裡面第一個有一個刑事訴訟 |
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的證據困境 |
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9461.78 |
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因為就像我剛講的這普遍 |
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9465.78 |
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性侵案件都有隱蔽性 |
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9465.78 |
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9467.78 |
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很容易證據不足 |
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9467.78 |
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9469.78 |
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那第二個司法有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
9469.78 |
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9471.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
完美被害人的迷思 |
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9473.78 |
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就是有沒有激烈反抗 |
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9475.78 |
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立即報警表現出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
9475.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
9477.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
強烈創傷反應 |
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9477.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
9479.78 |
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才會被當成是完美 |
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9481.78 |
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被害人 |
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9481.78 |
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9483.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
那司法系統還有二次傷害 |
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9485.78 |
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的風險如果司法人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
9485.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
9487.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
缺乏性別敏感度 |
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9487.78 |
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9489.78 |
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也沒有創傷知情的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
9489.78 |
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9491.78 |
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被害人的處境跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
9491.78 |
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9493.78 |
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證詞可能會被誤解 |
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9493.78 |
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9495.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
甚至會被質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
9495.78 |
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9497.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
所以如何強化司法人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
9497.78 |
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9499.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
的性別意識不只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
9499.78 |
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9501.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
對這第三個其實對前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
9501.78 |
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9503.78 |
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的證據跟完美被害 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
9503.78 |
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9505.78 |
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人的迷思都非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
9505.78 |
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9507.78 |
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那今天就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
9507.78 |
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9509.78 |
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好不容易已經就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
9509.78 |
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9511.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
進入這個系統可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
9511.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
9513.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
起訴率這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
9513.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
9515.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
如何不要因為這三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
9515.78 |
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9517.78 |
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就是無法提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
9517.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
9519.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
我覺得會是一個司法體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
9519.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
9521.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
9521.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
9523.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
就是受害人特別是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
9523.78 |
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9525.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
性侵案件受害人的重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
9525.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
9527.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
一個可以改善的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
9528.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
9530.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
9530.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
9532.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
剛剛其實您告訴我就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
9532.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
9534.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
這個性平意識培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
9534.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
9536.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
看起來您覺得量是足夠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
9536.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
9538.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
那我現在就想跟您討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
9538.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
9540.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
一個值得問題再往下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
9540.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
9542.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
我們辦公室跟你們要資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
9542.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
9544.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
其實我仔細去研究了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
9544.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
9546.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
譬如說這個法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
9546.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
9548.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
第65期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
9548.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
9550.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
司法官等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
9550.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
9552.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
這樣子以一個司法官裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
9552.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
9554.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
就是第65期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
9554.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
9556.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
為例 |
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9557.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
9559.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
他是上幾小時的課 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
9559.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
9561.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
可以問這個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
9561.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
9563.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
前面那個法官那個就不算嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
9563.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
9565.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
還是後面這個是5小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
9565.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
9567.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
還是8小時以我這邊找出來的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
9569.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
9573.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
這個法官第65期跟司法官第65期是同樣的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
9573.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
9575.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
應該是算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
9575.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
9577.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
所以他上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
9577.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
9579.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
為期兩年的訓練中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
9579.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
9581.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
上8小時的課對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
9581.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
9583.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
詳細他上課的時數我們可能要再查一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
9583.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
9585.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
兩年內上多少小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
9585.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
9587.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
這個是我從你們給我的資料裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
9587.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
9589.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
我統計是8小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
9589.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
9591.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
如果是8小時的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
9591.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
9593.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
就兩年的訓練我並不會說他很少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
9593.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
9595.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
這裡面就是他有一個電影賞戲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
9595.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
9597.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
9597.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
9599.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
那比較有趣的事情是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
9599.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
9601.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
我們辦公室要去要更詳細的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
9601.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
9603.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
不知道為什麼你們都沒有辦法提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
9603.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
9605.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
就是講師是誰等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
9605.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
9607.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
那希望未來願意提供給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
9607.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
9609.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
因為我們是幫你們在做這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
9609.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
9611.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
就是專業的一個監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
9611.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
9613.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
那我當然相信你們都找就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
9613.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
9615.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
很厲害很不錯的講師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
9615.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
9617.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
那但是我現在想問你的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
9617.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
9619.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
剛剛下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
9619.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
9621.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
下一個問題就是在職培訓比起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
9621.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
9623.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
這個覆蓋率真的蠻低的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
9623.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
9625.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
雖然您剛剛講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
9625.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
9627.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
這是因為檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
9627.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
9629.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
最後相關的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
9629.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
9631.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
是會特別的人審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
9631.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
9633.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
那可是這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
9633.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
9635.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
在職這個部分是不是能夠提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
9635.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
9637.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
是一個單位的提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
9637.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
9639.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
是能夠提高是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
9639.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
9641.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
待會我會請您回應的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
9641.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
9643.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
再往下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
9643.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
9645.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
那另外可能次長不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
9645.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
9647.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
其實我們有去問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
9647.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
9649.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
你們的一個檢核機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
9649.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
9651.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
那你們提供給我的法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
9651.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
9653.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
性評推動計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
9653.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
9655.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
有說你們有問一個東西叫做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
9655.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
9657.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
滿意度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
9657.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
9659.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
那關於性評課程的滿意度很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
9659.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
9661.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
都超過八成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
9662.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
9664.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
可是我們從一個效益角度來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
9664.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
9666.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
滿意度是什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
9666.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
9668.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
滿意度代表他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
9668.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
9670.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
性評的敏感度有增加嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
9670.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
9672.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
還是說講師口才很精彩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
9672.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
9674.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
還是他對所有的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
9674.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
9676.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
都寫滿意度很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
9676.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
9678.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
9678.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
9680.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
次長應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
9680.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
9682.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
也是社會科學的訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
9682.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
9684.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
滿意度調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
9684.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
9686.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
是不是能夠有效檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
9686.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
9688.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
課程的效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
9688.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
9690.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
因為你已經花了資源了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
9690.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
9692.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
八小時坐在那裡了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
9692.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
9694.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
電影看了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
9694.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
9696.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
那到底有沒有效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
9696.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
9698.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
我今天想問的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
9698.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
9700.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
如果次長重視這件事情的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
9700.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
9702.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
那就應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
9702.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
9704.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
看更深的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
9704.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
9706.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
不是只看這個課程滿意度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
9705.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
9707.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
那這您同意嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
9707.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
9709.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
完全同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
9709.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
9711.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
所以如何再繼續強化這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
9711.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
9713.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
下一頁是我想講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
9713.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
9715.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
不知道次長有沒有聽過SIDO |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
9715.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
9717.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
9717.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
9719.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
SIDO我相信就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
9719.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
9721.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
你們也很重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
9721.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
9723.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
那也跟您提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
9723.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
9725.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
其實SIDO的好幾次在台灣的國家報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
9725.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
9727.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
國際審查會議的結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
9727.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
9729.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
都特別盯上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
9729.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
9731.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
司法人員的相關訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
9731.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
9733.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
必須是在職培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
9733.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
9735.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
不是只有職前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
9735.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
9737.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
在職而且是檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
9737.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
9739.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
法官從職前培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
9739.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
9741.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
開始在職培訓也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
9741.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
9743.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
因為他們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
9743.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
9745.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
下面這個是從2015年就這樣說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
9745.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
9747.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
就是檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
9747.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
9749.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
執法人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
9749.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
9751.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
他往往讓刻板印象 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
9751.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
9753.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
影響了調查跟審判 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
9753.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
9755.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
尤其在性別暴力案件中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
9755.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
9757.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
刻板印象會削弱了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
9757.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
9759.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
受害人、倖存者的指控 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
9759.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
9761.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
而且會加強了被指控 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
9761.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
9763.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
被指控行為人的辯護力度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
9763.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
9765.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
那這個是都是國際的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
9765.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
9767.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
專家他們這樣講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
9767.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
9769.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
那其實他們最近也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
9769.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
9771.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
而且他們還希望我們放在法律中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
9771.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
9773.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
我們現在並沒有在法律中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
9773.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
9775.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
所以我想今天這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
9775.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
9777.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
到底你們做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
9777.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
9779.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
如何做到好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
9779.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
9781.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
我是不希望這8小時的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
9781.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
9783.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
資源浪費了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
9783.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
9785.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
那所以法務部是不是可以研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
9785.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
9787.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
第一個擴大跟深化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
9787.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
9789.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
辦理檢察官性品意識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
9789.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
9791.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
培力課程的可行性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
9791.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
9793.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
涵蓋值錢在職 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
9793.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
9795.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
值錢我覺得這個小時8小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
9795.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
9797.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
我不會說少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
9797.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
9799.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
而是內容的值你如何知道有沒有效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
9799.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
9801.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
在職的話可能需要擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
9801.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
9803.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
那第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
9803.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
9805.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
你們是不是可以研發適合檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
9805.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
9807.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
的性評教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
9807.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
9809.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
以我自己上相關的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
9809.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
9811.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
那個講師的課程內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
9811.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
9813.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
是不是這群人很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
9813.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
9815.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
因為我看你們高度的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
9815.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
9817.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
都是一個主題喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
9818.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
9820.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
就性別主流化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
9820.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
9822.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
另外一個就是多元性別時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
9822.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
9824.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
性別平等面臨的挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
9824.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
9826.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
那不能說這個主題不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
9826.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
9828.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
可是他會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
9828.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
9830.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
聽到最後都一樣的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
9830.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
9832.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
那就會浪費時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
9832.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
9834.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
所以你請的專家是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
9834.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
9836.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
他的材料很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
9836.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
9838.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
雖然不知道為什麼我們所知 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
9838.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
9840.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
說這方面不能給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
9840.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
9842.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
那我想我也不是這領域的專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
9842.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
9844.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
但有國內有很多的專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
9844.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
9846.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
包含檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
9846.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
9848.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
律師公會也有性別平等小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
9848.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
9850.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
或者是法律系的教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
9850.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
9852.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
也有人專長是性別平等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
9852.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
9854.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
我覺得你們各領域的專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
9854.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
9856.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
應該要花時間來研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
9856.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
9858.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
什麼課程讓那個8小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
9858.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
9860.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
上的是有用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
9860.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
9862.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
循序漸進的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
9862.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
9864.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
那最後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
9864.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
9866.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
要有一個校業檢核機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
9866.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
9868.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
我自己是大學老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
9868.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
9870.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
我都知道上課不一定會有效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
9870.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
9872.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
如果大家都在滑手機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
9872.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
9874.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
我今天領了你的講師費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
9874.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
9876.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
我就走了對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
9876.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
9878.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
所以這個課程校醫不能只問滿意度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
9878.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
9880.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
滿意度我們也不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
9880.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
9882.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
他是不是所有課都說滿意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
9882.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
9884.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
所以是不是能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
9884.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
9886.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
就這三者好好的做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
9886.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
9888.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
讓你們8小時的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
9888.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
9890.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
不要白費了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
9890.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
9892.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
那還有在職的部前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
9892.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
9894.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
還是就是涵蓋量太少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
9894.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
9896.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
兩小時也不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
9896.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
9898.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
那次長可以答應這三件事情都去努力嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
9898.4 |
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9900.4 |
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各位報告 |
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那關於第一個建議的部分 |
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9902.4 |
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9904.4 |
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量化跟質化的部分 |
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9904.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
9906.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
這絕對沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
9906.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
9908.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
這也是國家整部裡面重要的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
9908.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
9910.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
第二個就是在講官性平的教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
9910.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
9912.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
我們講官就相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
9912.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
9914.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
婦幼的偵辦案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
9914.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
9916.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
我們有專門的一個教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
9916.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
9918.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
這個講官來使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
9918.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
9920.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
那我們會回去要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
9920.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
9922.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
我們要求說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
9922.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
9924.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
性平敏感度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
9924.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
9926.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
你要把相關性平的教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
9926.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
9928.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
也納入我們婦幼的教材裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
9928.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
9930.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
讓講官參考這部分我們來努力看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
9930.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
9932.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
那第三點就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
9932.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
9934.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
我想的是那8小時的課 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
9934.4 |
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9936.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
那8小時的課的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
9936.4 |
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9938.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
那涉及到司法官學院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
9938.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
9940.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
他課程的安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
9940.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
9942.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
司法官學院跟你們沒有關係嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
9942.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
9944.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
沒有沒有他是我們本部所選 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
9944.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
9946.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
所以他是他課程安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
9946.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
9948.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
他有一個課程安排的委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
9948.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
9950.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
他是一個合一致去做這個課程安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
9950.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
9952.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
我們會把這個問題反映給這個委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
9952.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
9954.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
就這個課程安排就是加入我們性平的教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
9954.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
9956.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
是不是多一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
9956.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
9958.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
量化跟質化多一點我們會來反映 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
9958.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
9960.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
那你會幫人家好好研議專屬的教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
9960.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
9962.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
這樣會有沒有可能做到呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
9962.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
9964.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
我會把委員的意見跟委員來報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
9964.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
9966.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
第三個有關檢核機制的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
9966.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
9968.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
當然課程的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
9968.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
9970.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
滿意度的部分不能代表他的KPI |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
9970.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
9972.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
所以說我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
9972.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
9974.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
剛剛委員提到稀抖的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
9974.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
9976.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
所以現在國際學者或我們相關量化的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
9976.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
9978.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
都要求說你在判決裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
9978.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
9980.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
引用多少的稀抖的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
9980.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
9982.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
我上次已經質詢過了非常少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
9982.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
9984.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
我們檢察官引用多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
9984.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
9986.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
我意思說包委員就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
9986.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
9988.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
律師引用比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
9988.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
9990.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
檢察官法官還好法官很糟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
9990.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
9992.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
經過性別意識的質量的提升之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
9992.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
9994.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
他其實可以反映在判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
9994.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
9996.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
或反映在書類裡面去引用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
9996.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
9998.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
其實現在慢慢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
9998.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
10000.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
越來越多檢察官也好法官也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
10000.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
10002.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
在判決或起訴書後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
10002.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
10004.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
除非是引用了稀抖 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
10004.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
10006.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
法官很少我上次有質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
10006.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
10008.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
檢察官多一點雖然比較多的是律師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
10008.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
10010.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
但他這次慢慢改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
10010.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
10012.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
他已經從量變變成質變 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
10012.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
10014.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
我們沒有那麼多時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
10014.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
10016.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
我們要讓法官跟法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
10016.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
10018.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
跟法官的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
10018.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
10020.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
跟法官的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
10020.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
10022.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
跟法官的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
10022.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
10024.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
跟法官的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
10024.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
10026.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
跟法官的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
10026.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
10028.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
跟法官的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
10028.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
10030.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
跟法官的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
10030.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
10032.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
跟法官的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
10032.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
10034.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
跟法官的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
10034.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
10036.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
跟法官的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
10036.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
10038.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
跟法官的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
10038.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
10040.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
跟法官的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
10040.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
10042.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
跟法官的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
10042.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
10044.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
你怎麼做好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
10044.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
10046.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
謝謝次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
10045.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
10047.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
謝謝法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
10049.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
10051.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
我們請下一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
10051.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
10053.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
蘇清泉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
10053.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
10055.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
蘇清泉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
10055.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
10057.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
蘇清泉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
10059.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
10061.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
蘇清泉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
10061.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
10063.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
所有登記發言的委員均於發言完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
10065.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
10067.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
詢答結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
10067.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
10071.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
委員諮詢時要求提供的相關資料或書面答覆者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
10071.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
10073.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
請相關機關儘速送交 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
10073.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
10075.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
各委員基本會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
10077.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
10079.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
10082.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
10084.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
委員蔡其昌審發會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
10084.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
10086.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
徐宇蓁富坤啟吳宗憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
10086.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
10088.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
所提的書面質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
10088.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
10090.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
列入記錄刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
10090.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
10092.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
並請相關機關以書面來答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
10094.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
10096.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
今日議程所列事項報告及詢答完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
10096.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
10098.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
本次會議進行到此結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
10098.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
10100.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
現在散會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
10100.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
10102.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
10105.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
10107.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
謝謝 |