| IVOD_ID |
17716 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17716 |
| 日期 |
2026-10-02 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-6-2 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
6 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第6會期第2次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-10-02T08:29:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-10-02T12:02:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
03:32:02 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 會議時間 |
2026-10-02T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第6會期第2次會議（事由：對行政院院長施政報告進行質詢。） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:29:58 - 12:02:00 |
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| transcript.whisperx[0].start |
1811.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].end |
1815.06 |
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好 謝謝 昨天早上各位政府院長各位各位員早安 |
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1815.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].end |
1817.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].text |
我們請民進黨報告出席人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].start |
1818.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
1821.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
報告議員會出席委員45人已出法定連署 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
1821.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
1823.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].text |
我們現在開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
1823.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
1826.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
報告議員會我們先處理朝野黨團協商結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
1826.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
1827.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
請議事人員宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
1828.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
1833.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
一法院黨團協商結論時間115年9月29日星期二上午95分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
1833.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
1835.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
地點一常主席辦公室決定事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
1835.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
1838.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
一各黨團同意有關中央選舉委員會舉辦之 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
1838.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
1842 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
全國性公民投票案第22案發表會或辯論會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
1842 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
1843.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
由國民黨黨團三人 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
1843.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
1846.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
及台灣民眾黨黨團一人各推薦代表人 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
1846.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
1848.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
請國民黨黨團及台灣民眾黨黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
1848.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
1851.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
共同於10月12日星期一中午12時前 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
1851.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
1852.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
送交議事處會診 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
1852.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
1853.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
遇使視同放棄 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
1853.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
1856.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
二上述黨團指定參加場次以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
1856.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
1858.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
所生一場之陰保留於 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
1858.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
1861.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
依法最先經許可設立辦事處之 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
1861.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
1862.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
支持意見代表者 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
1862.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
1866 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
三本案授權議事處於10月15日星期四以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
1866 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
1867.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
將上述名單之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
1867.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
1868.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
函算中央選舉委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
1869.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
1870.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
主持人韓國一江啟臣 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
1870.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
1873.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
協商代表傅坤啟 徐宇臻 洪孟凱 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
1873.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
1876.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
蔡啟昌 莊瑞雄 范雲 陳青龍 陳昭之 洪玉祥 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
1876.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
1876.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
1877.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
1878.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
1880.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
1881.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
115年 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
1881.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
1884.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
請問院會對以上朝野黨的協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
1884.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
1885.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
結論有無意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
1885.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
1886.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
沒有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
1886.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
1887.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
我們就通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
1887.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
1890.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
115年9月29日朝野黨團協商結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
1890.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
1892.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
經決定如下 |
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1892.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
1894.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
依各黨團同意有關中央選舉委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
1894.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
1897.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
舉辦之全國性公民投票案 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
1897.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
1899.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
第22案發表會或辯論會 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
1899.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
1901.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
由國民黨團推派三位 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
1901.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
1903.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
及台灣民眾黨團推派一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
1904.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1906.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
請國民黨團 台灣民眾黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
1906.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
1910.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
共同於10月12日星期一中午12點前 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
1910.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
送交議事處會診 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
1912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
1913.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
遇時視同放棄 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1913.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1917.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
2.上述黨團指定參加場次之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
1917.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
1918.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
所剩一場次 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1918.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1921.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
應保留與依法最先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
1921.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1925.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
許可設立辦事處之支持意見代表者 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
1925.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1930.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
3.本案授權議事處於10月15日星期四以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
1930.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1931.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
將上述名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
1931.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1935.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
資料函送中央選舉委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
1935.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1935.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
報告會議會 |
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1935.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1939.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
依照7月31日協商結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1939.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
1943.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
本次會議以一四成草案送院會進行處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
1943.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
1946.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
請各黨團幹部現在數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
1946.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
1949.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
一場後方我們主席休息室要進行溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
1950.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1951.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
現在休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
3209.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
3211 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
報院會我們要繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
3211 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
3212.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
依照黨團共事 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
3212.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
3213.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
本次會議一四成 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
3213.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
3216.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
照原編寧議程草案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
3216.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
3218.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
本次會議一四成 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
3218.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
3218.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
3219.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
3220.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
我們進行報告事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
3220.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
3223.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
請民主黨宣讀第六會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
3223.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
3223.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
第一次會議 |
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3223.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
3224.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
一四成 |
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3224.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
3226.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
宣讀立法案第十一屆第六會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
3226.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
3227.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
第一次會議 |
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3227.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
3228.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
一四度時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
3228.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
3229.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
中華民國一百四十五年 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
3229.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
3231 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
9月29日地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
3231 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
3232.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
北院議場 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
3232.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
3232.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
出席委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
3232.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
3234.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
陳委員招致等一百雙二人 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
3234.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
3235.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
請假委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
3235.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
3236.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
王委員事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
3236.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
3238.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
主席院長韓國瑜 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
3238.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
3239.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
副院長江啟臣 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
3240.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
3241.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
報告事項第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
3241.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
3242.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
宣讀北院第十一屆第五會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
3242.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
3244.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
第二三次會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
3244.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
3245.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
一四度決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
3245.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
3246.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
第二案決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
3246.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
3247.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
照案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
3247.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
3250.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
行政院院長施政報告決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
3250.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
3251.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
下次會議進行施政報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
3251.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
3253.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
支持請同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
3253.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
3254.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
全職行使事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
3254.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
3256.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
決議一 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
3256.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
3259.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
陳永新不同意為監察院第七屆監察委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
3259.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
3260.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
並為院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
3260.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
3261.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
二 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
3261.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
3264.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
王龍章不同意為監察院第七屆監察委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
3264.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
3266.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
並為副院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
3266.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
3266.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
三 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
3266.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
3268.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
高天瑞等二十五人 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
3268.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
3272.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
均不同意為監察院第七屆監察委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
3272.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
3272.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
其他事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
3272.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
3274.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
本次會議一四度成照 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
3274.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
3276.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
原編領一層查案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
3276.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
3277.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
3277.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
3277.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
報告議會 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
3277.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
3279.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
我們針對第六會期第一次會議的一四度 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
3279.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
3282.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
並沒有委員或黨團提出錯誤遺漏之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
3282.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
3284.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
我們現在做一下決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
3284.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
3285.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
第六會期第一次會議一四度 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
3285.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
3286.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
3286.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
3287.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
請宣讀第二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
3287.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
3287.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
二 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
3287.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
3289.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
委員尤浩等擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
3289.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
3292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
處地稅法第十七條之一及第十九條條 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
3292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
3292.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
修正查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
3292.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
3294.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
擬交財政委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
3294.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
3294.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
3294.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
3295.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
宣言會有無意 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
3295.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
3296.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
無意通過下議 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
3296.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
3297.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
三 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
3297.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
3298.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
委員尤浩等擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
3298.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
3301.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
勞政福利法增立第25條之一條文草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
3301.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
3303.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
擬交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
3303.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
3304.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
3304.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
3305.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
無意通過下議 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
3305.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
3305.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
四 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
3305.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
3306.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
委員張恰遜等擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
3306.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
3309.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
勞工退休金條例第十四條及第三十六條條 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
3309.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
3310.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
文修正查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
3310.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
3312.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
擬交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
3312.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
3312.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
3312.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
3313.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
無意通過下議 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
3313.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
3314.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
五 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
3314.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
3316.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
委員張恰遜等擬具社會救助法 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
3316.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
3318.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
第四條及第四條之一條文修正查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
3318.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
3320.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
擬交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
3320.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
3322 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
無意通過下議 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
3322 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
3322.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
六 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
3322.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
3323.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
委員洪孟凱等擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
3323.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
3324.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
寵物食品管理法草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
3324.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
3326.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
擬交親近委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
3326.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
3326.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
3326.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
3327.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
無意通過下議 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
3327.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
3327.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
七 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
3327.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
3328.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
委員洪孟凱等擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
3328.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
3330.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
陸海公軍刑法第五十四條及第五十六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
3330.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
3331.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
文修正查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
3331.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
3333.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
擬交司法及法治外交及國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
3333.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
3334.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
聯合委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
3334.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
3334.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
3334.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
3335.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
報告委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
3335.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
3336.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
針對第七案 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
3336.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
3337.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
國民黨團體要進一步二讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
3337.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
3339.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
與相關提案並按協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
3339.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
3339.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
請願會有意 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
3340.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
3341.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
五 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
3341.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
3341.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
委員洪孟凱等擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
3341.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
3342.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
寵物食品管理法草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
3342.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
3343.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
寵物食品管理法草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
3343.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
3343.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
下議案 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
3343.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
3344.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
八 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
3344.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
3345.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
委員葉元智等擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
3345.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
3346.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
原子能法 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
3346.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
3347.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
部分條文修正查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
3347.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
3348.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
擬交交局 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
3348.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
3349.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
文化委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
3349.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
3349.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
3349.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
3350.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
無意通過下議 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
3350.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
3350.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
九 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
3350.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
3352.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
委員葉元智等擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
3352.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
3354.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
宣教衛生法第二十三條及第二十三條之 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
3354.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
3355.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
三條文修正查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
3355.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
3356.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
擬交交局 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
3356.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
3357.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
文化委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
3357.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
3358.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
3358.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
3358.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
報告委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
3358.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
3359.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
針對第九案 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
3359.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
3361.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
現在國民黨團體要進一步二讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
3362.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
3363.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
請願會有意 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
3363.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
3365.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
面以本案進一步二讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
3365.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
3365.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
相關提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
3365.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
3366.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
並按寫上下議案 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
3366.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
3367.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
十 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
3367.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
3368.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
委員葉元智等擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
3368.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
3369.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
教保服務人員條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
3369.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
3370.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
部分條文修正查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
3370.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
3371.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
擬交交局 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
3371.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
3372.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
文化委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
3372.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
3373.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
3373.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
3374.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
報告委員會針對第十案 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
3374.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
3376.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
國民黨團體要進一步二讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
3376.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
3376.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
相關提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
3376.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
3377.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
並按寫上 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
3377.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
3378.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
請願會有意 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
3378.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
3379.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
委員本案進一步二讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
3379.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
3380.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
相關提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
3380.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
3381.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
並按寫上 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
3381.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
3381.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
下議案 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
3381.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
3382.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
十一 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
3382.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
3383.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
委員葉元智等擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
3383.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
3385.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
平原地區學校教育發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
3385.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
3387.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
第七條及第八條條文修正查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
3387.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
3388.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
擬交政局 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
3388.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
3389.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
文化委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
3389.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
3390.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
3390.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
3391.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
十二 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
3391.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
3392.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
委員羅志祥擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
3392.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
3393.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
中華民國刑法 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
3393.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
3394.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
部分條文修正查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
3394.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
3396.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
擬交司法及法治委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
3396.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
3397.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
3397.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
3397.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
十三 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
3397.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
3399 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
委員羅志祥擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
3399 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
3400 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
公務人員考試法 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
3400 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
3402.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
第四條 第五條及第二十八條條文修正查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
3402.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
3404.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
擬交司法及法治委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
3404.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
3405.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
3405.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
3406.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
十四 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
3406.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
3407.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
委員羅志祥擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
3407.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
3409.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
都市危險及老舊建築物 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
3409.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
3410.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
加速重建條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
3410.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
3410.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
修正查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
3410.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
3412 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
擬交內政委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
3412 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
3412.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
3418.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
3420 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
我已通過審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
3425.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
3426.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
我已通過審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
3432.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
3433.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
我已通過審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
3440.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
3441.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
我已通過審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
3441.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
3441.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
十九 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
3441.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
3443.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
委員林舒芬擬具法院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
3443.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
3445.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
刪除第95條條文審查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
3445.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
3447.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
擬交司法及法治委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
3447.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
3448.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
我已通過審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
3448.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
3448.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
二十 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
3448.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
3451.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
委員林舒芬擬具少年及家世法院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
3451.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
3453.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
刪除第44條條文審查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
3453.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
3455.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
擬交司法及法治委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
3455.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
3456.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
我已通過審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
3456.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
3457.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
二十一 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
3457.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
3460.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
委員林舒芬擬具智慧財政及商業法院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
3460.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
3462.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
刪除第37條條文審查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
3462.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
3463.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
擬交司法及法治委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
3463.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
3464.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
3464.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
3466.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
二十二 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
3466.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
3467.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
委員陳金輝擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
3467.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
3470 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
委員梁偉祥擬具法院組織法部門條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
3470 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
3472.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
擬交社會福利及物資商環境委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
3472.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
3473.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
我已通過審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
3473.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
3474.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
二十三 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
3474.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
3477.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
委員陳昌明擬具老人福利法第22條條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
3477.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
3479.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
擬交社會福利及物資商環境委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
3479.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
3480.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
3480.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
3481.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
法院會針對第23案 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
3481.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
3484.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
國民黨團隊提議要進一幅二讀相關提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
3484.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
3485.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
並按協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
3485.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
3486.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
請問院會有無異議 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
3486.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
3488.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
內本案進一幅二讀相關提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
3488.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
3489.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
並按協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
3489.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
3489.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
下頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
3489.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
3490.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
二十四 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
3490.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
3493.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
委員梁偉祥擬具法院組織法部門條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
3493.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
3495.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
擬交司法及法治委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
3495.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
3496.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
3496.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
3496.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
二十五 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
3496.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
3500.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
委員賴雪寶擬具中華民國刑法部門條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
3500.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
3501.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
擬交司法及法治委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
3501.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
3502.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
3502.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
3503.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
二十六 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
3503.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
3506.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
委員翁曉琳擬具一事法第11條條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
3506.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
3509.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
擬交社會福利及物資商環境委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
3509.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
3510.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
3510.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
3510.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
二十七 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
3510.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
3515.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
委員黃捷擬具兒童及少年性不屑防治條例部門條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
3515.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
3518.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
擬交社會福利及物資商環境司法及法治兩位委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
3518.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
3519.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
3519.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
3520.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
二十八 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
3520.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
3524.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
委員羅明燦擬具離島縣市條例第15條條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
3524.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
3525.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
擬交親近委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
3525.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
3526.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
3526.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
3527.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
二十九 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
3527.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
3532.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
委員徐曉新擬具入海郭軍軍官新官福利條例第29條及第61條 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
3532.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
3533.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
3533.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
3535.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
擬交衛教紀國防委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
3535.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
3536.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
3536.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
3536.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
三十 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
3536.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
3542 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
委員徐曉新擬具志願士兵福利條例第6條之一及第16條條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
3542.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
3543.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
擬交衛教紀國防委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
3543.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
3545.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
3545.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
3545.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
三十一 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
3545.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
3552.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
委員徐曉新擬具入海郭軍軍官新官生死條例第9條之一及第22條條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
3552.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
3554.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
擬交司法及法治衛教紀國防兩位委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
3554.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
3555.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
3555.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
3556.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
三十二 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
3556.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
3561.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
國民黨黨團擬具全民共享經濟正國及穩定民生特別條例草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
3561.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
3562.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
擬交財政委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
3562.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
3563.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
3563.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
3564.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
三十三 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
3564.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
3570.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
行政院司法院含請隨意中華民國刑法第77條及第79條之一條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
3570.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
3573.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
及中華民國刑法第77條部份條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
3573.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
3575.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
擬交司法及法治委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
3575.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
3576.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
3576.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
3576.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
三十四 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
3576.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
3581.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
行政院含請隨意國民體育法第77條及第79條教育及文化委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
3581.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
3582.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
3582.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
3583.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
三十五 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
3583.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
3586.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
行政院含請隨意116年度中央政府責任判案 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
3586.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
3588.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
含附屬單位算及縱及表 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
3588.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
3590 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
以及非營業部份案 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
3590 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
3592.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
擬請院會定期舉行會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
3592.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
3597.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
邀請行政院院長、主席長、財政公務部長、歷史方告116年度施政計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
3597.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
3599.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
及116年度中央政府責任判案 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
3599.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
3601.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
詢問及提問 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
3601.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
3602.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
吳議通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
3602.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
3603.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
三十六 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
3603.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
3604.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
行政院含請隨意 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
3604.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
3606.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
115年度中央政府責任判案 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
3607.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
3609.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
吳議通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
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3610.99 |
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3610.99 |
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3614.99 |
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行政院含請隨意國防工業發展基金會116年度預算書案 |
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3614.99 |
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3616.99 |
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擬交外交機國防委員會審查 |
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3616.99 |
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3617.99 |
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吳議通過 |
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3617.99 |
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3618.99 |
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三十八 |
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3618.99 |
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3621.99 |
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行政院含請隨意國防工業技術研究院116年度預算書案 |
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3621.99 |
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3623.99 |
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擬交經濟委員會審查 |
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3623.99 |
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3624.99 |
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吳議通過 |
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3625.99 |
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三十九 |
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3625.99 |
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3628.99 |
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行政院含請隨意國防工業經濟研究院116年度預算書案 |
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3628.99 |
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3630.99 |
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擬交經濟委員會審查 |
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3630.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
3631.99 |
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吳議通過 |
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3631.99 |
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3632.99 |
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三十九 |
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3632.99 |
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3635.99 |
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行政院含請隨意國防工業經濟研究院116年度預算書案 |
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3635.99 |
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3636.99 |
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擬交經濟委員會審查 |
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3636.99 |
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3637.99 |
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吳議通過 |
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3637.99 |
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3638.99 |
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四十八 |
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3638.99 |
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3644.99 |
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行政院含請隨意國防防務研究院116年度工作計劃及收視預算案 |
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3644.99 |
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3647.99 |
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擬交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
3647.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
3648.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
吳議通過 |
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3648.99 |
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3649.99 |
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四十一 |
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3649.99 |
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3651.99 |
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大陸委員會含請隨意國防防軍政委員會審查 |
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3651.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
3653.99 |
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吳議通過 |
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3653.99 |
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3654.99 |
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四十二 |
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3654.99 |
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3655.99 |
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大陸委員會含請隨意國防防防務研究院116年度預算書案 |
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3655.99 |
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3656.99 |
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弄交內政院會審查 |
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3656.99 |
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3657.99 |
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會通過 |
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3657.99 |
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3658.99 |
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四十二 |
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3658.99 |
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3660.99 |
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大陸委員會含請隨意國防防防務研究院116年度預算書案 |
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3660.99 |
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3661.99 |
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弄交內政委員會審查 |
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3661.99 |
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3662.99 |
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吳議通過 |
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3662.99 |
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3663.99 |
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會通過 |
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3663.99 |
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3664.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3670.99 |
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3671.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3679.99 |
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3680.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3691.99 |
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3692.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3693.99 |
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3694.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3701.99 |
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3702.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3715.99 |
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3716.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3723.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3730.99 |
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3731.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3738.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
3739.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3747.99 |
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3748.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3753.99 |
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3754.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3756.99 |
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3757.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3777.99 |
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3778.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3784.99 |
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3785.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3797.99 |
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3798.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3810.99 |
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3811.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
3813.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
3814.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3820.99 |
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3821.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3828.99 |
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3829.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3839.99 |
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3840.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3843.99 |
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3844.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3851.99 |
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3852.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3858.99 |
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3859.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3868.99 |
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3869.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3873.99 |
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3874.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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3877.99 |
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3878.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
3889.99 |
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3890.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
3900.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
3901.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
3903.99 |
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3904.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
3921.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
3922.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
我已通過寫言 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
3933.99 |
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3934.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
我已通過寫言 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
3954.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
3955.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
我已通過寫言 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
3963.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
3964.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
我已通過寫言 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
3970.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
3971.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
我已通過寫言 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
3980.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
3981.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
我已通過寫言 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
3989.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
3990.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
我已通過寫言 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
3993.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
3994.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
4009.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
4010.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
4023.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
4024.99 |
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我已通過寫言 |
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4039.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
4041.99 |
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4041.99 |
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4043.99 |
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國民黨團體改交審查 |
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4043.99 |
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4045.99 |
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本案就要內政及司法及法治 |
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4045.99 |
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4046.99 |
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兩委員會審查 |
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4046.99 |
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4047.99 |
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下案 |
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4053.99 |
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4057.99 |
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交通違規罰款收入全數應用於 |
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4057.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
4060.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
改善道路交通安全環境及補貼大眾運輸 |
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4060.99 |
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4062.99 |
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4062.99 |
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4064.99 |
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直公民投票提案 |
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4064.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
4066.99 |
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不符合公民投票法第二條 |
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4066.99 |
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4067.99 |
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第二項第三項所訂是 |
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4067.99 |
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4069.99 |
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詳該會案難辦理 |
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4069.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
4071.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
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4071.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
4073.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
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4073.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
4075.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
國民黨團體要改交審查 |
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4075.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
4079.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
本案交內政以及交通兩委員會審查 |
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4079.99 |
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4080.99 |
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下案 |
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4080.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
4084.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
財政部韓圍駐韓國台北代表部與駐台北韓國代表部 |
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4084.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
4088.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
避免所得稅雙重課稅及房度逃稅協定 |
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4088.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
4091.99 |
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修正協議於198月4日生效 |
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4091.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
4095.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
解送韓方來韓我方回韓截改二韓中義本 |
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4095.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
4098.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
擬交財政外交及國防兩委員會宣讀完畢 |
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4098.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
4099.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
微通過寫言 |
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4099.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
4103.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
70及農業部韓圍修正您退休基金條例 |
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4103.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
4106.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
施行細則擬交經濟委員會宣讀完畢 |
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4106.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
4107.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
微通過寫言 |
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4107.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
4112.99 |
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70方農業部修正應實施輸入食物檢疫評估第二點 |
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4112.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
4115.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
副表擬交經濟委員會宣讀完畢 |
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4115.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
4121.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
微通過報應會第79案到244案依序宣讀 |
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4121.99 |
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4124.99 |
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其中第240至243案 |
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4124.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
4126.99 |
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國民黨團體要改交審查 |
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4126.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
4130.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
宣讀之後以上議案改交相關委員會審查 |
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4130.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
4133.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
其餘的議案均照議事書意見通過 |
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4133.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
4134.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
請問院會有異議 |
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4134.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
4138.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
滅議我們宣讀宣讀之後通過請宣讀 |
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4138.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
4140.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
第79案至第85案海洋委員會 |
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4140.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
4142.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
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4142.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
4144.99 |
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第197案至第239案財政部 |
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4144.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
4148.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
第240案至第243案國家科學及技術委員會 |
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4148.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
4150.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
第244案國家通訊傳播委員會 |
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4150.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
4155.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
韓圍115年度中央政府組合宣決議分別檢送相關報告宣讀完畢 |
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4159.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
4161.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
報告院會我們第245案以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
4161.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
4163.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
一併宣讀宣讀之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
4163.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
4166.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
245案退回程序委員會重新提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
4166.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
4171.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
246案同意展延審查期限請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
4171.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
4174.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
第245案為總統府秘書長韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
4174.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
4178.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
為總統於115年9月18日公佈中華民國115年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
4178.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
4180.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
中央政府總統選並批示而向 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
4180.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
4183.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
第246案為本院教育及文化委員會韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
4183.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
4186.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
為院會教父審查相關行政命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
4186.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
4190.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
以與立法院職權刑事法第60條所定審查期限 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
4190.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
4192.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
質詢事項假行政院答復部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
4192.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
4195.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
行政院韓送本院林委員淑芬等 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
4195.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
4197.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
所定質詢之書面答復公司見 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
4197.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
4199.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
以本院委員質詢部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
4199.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
4204.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
本院嚴委員寬恒向行政院提出質詢公議見宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
4206.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
4208.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
報告會報告事項已經處理完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
4208.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
4213.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
我們現在針對行政院院長施政報告要進行質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
4213.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
4215.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
在進行質詢之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
4215.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
4217.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
我們先做兩項宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
4217.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
4221.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
一 施政報告質詢以疾問及答方式進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
4221.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
4223.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
每位委員詢答時間30分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
4223.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
4226.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
如果兩個議員根證 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
4226.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
4228.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
如果兩個議題進行質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
4228.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
4230.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
每一個議題為15分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
4230.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
4232.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
採用聯合質詢時 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
4232.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
4234.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
一 其人數合併計算詢答時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
4234.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
4236.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
不得超過三位 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
4236.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
4238.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
二 一登記次序 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
4238.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
4240.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
輪到質詢之委員如果不在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
4240.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
4242.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
已放棄質詢論 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
4242.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
4244.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
採用聯合質詢時 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
4244.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
4246.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
其中質詢委員如不在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
4246.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
4248.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
亦已放棄質詢論 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
4248.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
4250.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
詢答時間不予併入 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
4251.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
4254.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
現在我們請民主黨報告首長請假進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
4255.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
4282.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
報告完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
4282.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
4284.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
好 報告完畢 我們現在開始進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
4284.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
4286.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
施政質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
4286.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
4290.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
我們首先請陳昭之委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
4290.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
4292.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
范元委員請準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
4302.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
4303.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
4303.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
4305.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
有請卓院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
4306.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
4307.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
麻煩請卓院長備選 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
4317.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
4318.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
陳委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
4318.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
4319.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
院長早 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
4319.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
4321.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
院長我想先請教你喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
4321.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
4323.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
您希望台灣的歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
4323.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
4325.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
未來如何評價你 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
4325.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
4327.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
您是一位大人物 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
4327.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
4330.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
每一位大人物大概都會有他的歷史評價 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
4330.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
4332.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
有時候是在有生之年 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
4332.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
4334.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
有時候是在這個蓋棺論定 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
4334.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
4337.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
但也有時候是隔了好多代 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
4337.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
4339.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
但是我也理解就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
4339.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
4344.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
通常歷史評價不太容易掌握在自己的手上 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
4344.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
4346.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
那我想報告院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
4346.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
4350.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
這個我看過古往今來很多名人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
4350.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
4352.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
這個所謂的慕志明 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
4352.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
4355.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
他們就是外國人放在墓碑上的慕志明 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
4355.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
4358.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
我也為自己寫下了慕志明 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
4358.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
4361.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
那其實慕志明台灣人沒有做這個習慣 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
4361.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
4363.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
但是它是個概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
4364.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
4369.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
也就是說你可不可以用短短幾個字或一兩句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
4369.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
4372.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
來做一個人一生的總評 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
4372.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
4374.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
所以我想請教院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
4374.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
4376.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
如果請您親自執筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
4376.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
4380.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
您會為自己寫下什麼樣的一生總評 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
4380.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
4382.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
一兩句話好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
4383.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
4385.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
歷史的評價應該交給歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
4385.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
4388.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
我自己應該沒有那個能力為自己做評價 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
4388.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
4391.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
但是我跟全國的公務人員一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
4393.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
4396.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
依法來從事公務的所有國家的公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
4396.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
4398.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
無論是軍公教 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
4398.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
4399.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
無論是中央地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
4399.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
4402.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
都應該在謹守奮進 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
4402.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
4403.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
奉公守法 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
4403.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
4405.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
恪遵憲法 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
4405.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
4408.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
遵照依法行政的原則來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
4408.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
4412.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
從議員到立委到行政政務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
4412.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
4413.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
所有的生物 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
4413.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
4416.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
一兩句話就可以一個評價 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
4416.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
4421.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
那院長就是覺得自己是恪遵這個法規來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
4421.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
4422.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
您的職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
4422.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
4424.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
院長這個川習會剛結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
4424.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
4426.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
我今天不談政治效應 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
4426.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
4430.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
但是我想就這個美國跟中國之間的區別 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
4430.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
4431.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
我想請教你 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
4432.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
4434.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
就麻煩您很簡短的回答就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
4434.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
4438.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
請問美國跟中國哪一個是民主國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
4439.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
4441.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
哪一個是民主國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
4441.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
4443.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
這個在天平的 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
4443.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
4445.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
光譜的兩端太懸殊了 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
4445.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
4447.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
當然是美國是一個民主的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
4447.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
4449.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
中國一點邊都沉不上 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
4449.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
4454.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
那你認為美國和中國哪一個對自由跟人權的保障是比較完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
4456.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
4460.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
當然美國的尊重民主價值跟人權價值的普世價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
4460.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
4462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
跟世界有盟國家是比較一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
4462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
4466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
那中國是屬於極權統治的黨國時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
4466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
4468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
院長簡單回答就可以謝謝你 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
4468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
4472.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
那你認為美國和中國哪一個對於人民的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
4472.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
4476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
比較會去努力去達成他們的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
4476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
4479.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
美國從人民的需求面滿足人民的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
4479.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
4483.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
中國是從統治面來壓迫人民接受統治的手法 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
4483.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
4484.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
那我就請教院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
4484.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
4488.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
美國跟中國哪個國家已經把代理義母制度化了 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
4489.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
4491.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
哪一個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
4490.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
4492.7 |
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哪一個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
4491.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
4496.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
代孕對把代孕合法化了法制化了法法制化的背後 |
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4496.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
4499.95 |
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要看他整個社會的社會的風氣 |
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4499.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
4504.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
以及整個社會的認知是不是在和於人權的規定底下 |
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4506.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
4510.16 |
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美國40年一個是一位的進職 |
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4510.16 |
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4513.16 |
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院長就是這麼清楚你OK嗎 |
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4513.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
4514.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
你這個答案就清楚 |
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4515.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
4517.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
那院長我曾經非常的支持民進黨 |
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4517.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
4521.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
因為早期的民進黨他不但為人民爭取民主 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
4521.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
4523.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
那也提倡進步價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
4523.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
4525.04 |
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可是我覺得這些年還是退步了 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
4525.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
4530.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
那這個2002年賴清德立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
4530.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
4532.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
他提出了台灣第一部的代孕法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
4533.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
4536.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
但是20幾年後賴立委已經成為賴總統了 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
4536.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
4541.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
可是現在的民進黨立委卻用力在反對代孕 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
4541.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
4544.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
院長有一些人稱民進黨是綠共 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
4544.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
4547.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
當然我個人沒有百分之百認同這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
4547.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
4551.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
可是我有發現在代孕這個議題上 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
4551.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
4556.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
民進黨立委的主流論述跟中國共產黨如出一策 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
4556.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
4559.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
我想請院長看一下這個投影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
4559.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
4561.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
中共人大代表蔣勝南說 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
4561.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
4564.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
代孕是把女性器官視為加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
4564.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
4566.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
是對女性的物化跟歧視 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
4566.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
4569.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
不是任何需求都需要去被滿足的 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
4569.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
4572.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
代孕是一種削弱的 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
4573.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
4575.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
削弱是階級 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
4575.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
4578.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
沈柏楊甚至說代孕的需求不會消失 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
4578.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
4581.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
人類對賭博的需求也不會消失 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
4581.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
4584.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
但不代表我們要建立制度來應對 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
4584.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
4587.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
應該選擇成本較小的方式來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
4587.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
4592.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
天哪連主張任何形式的交流都是統戰的沈柏楊 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
4592.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
4595.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
他的論述居然跟中共一模一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
4595.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
4597.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
院長你不覺得諷刺嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
4597.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
4600.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
民進黨口口聲聲說台美友好 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
4600.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
4607.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
去把美國跟英國施行40年的代孕制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
4607.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
4609.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
完全妖魔化了 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
4609.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
4611.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
跟中國共產黨做法一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
4611.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
4614.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
無視人民的需求一味的禁止 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
4614.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
4616.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
院長我們現在繼續往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
4617.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
4621.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
請院長看看法治化跟地下化的對比 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
4621.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
4624.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
左邊是最近轟動全球的新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
4624.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
4628.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
發生在有完善代孕制度的美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
4628.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
4629.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
Lady Gaga |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
4630.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
4634.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
她因為飽受病痛之苦而選擇了代孕 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
4634.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
4638.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
全球媒體都說是喜迎愛女 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
4638.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
4640.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
都說是一樁喜事喜迎愛女 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
4640.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
4642.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
院長你認識Lady Gaga吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
4642.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
4643.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
你知道吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
4643.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
4644.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
聽過歌 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
4644.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
4646.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
Lady Gaga長期以來喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
4646.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
4652.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
她是對女性權益跟LGBTQ這個族群發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
4652.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
4657.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
她甚至坦然揭露她自己曾經被性侵被霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
4657.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
4659.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
那她的作品很多都是反思 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
4659.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
4666.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
在父權體制下女性是如何被剝削被凝視被壓迫 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
4666.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
4668.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
那麼我想請問院長喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
4669.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
4671.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
你覺得Lady Gaga她尋求代孕 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
4671.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
4675.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
你會覺得她是在壓迫剝削女性嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
4675.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
4676.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
請你簡單回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
4676.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
4677.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
你覺得呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
4677.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
4682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
每個人對自己以及對群體的價值觀念判斷不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
4682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
4683.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
院長我是請教您 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
4683.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
4685.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
我尊重Lady Gaga |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
4685.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
4686.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
我尊重她 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
4686.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
4688.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
那您覺得她是在剝削女性嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
4688.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
4690.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
我也尊重她在美國社會當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
4690.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
4694.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
在法治底細下所擁有的自己的選擇權 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
4694.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
4696.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
院長請你再看看右邊這張圖表 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
4696.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
4699.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
中國政府是嚴格禁止代孕的 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
4699.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
4700.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
但結果呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
4700.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
4705.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
中國成為全世界地下化代孕工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
4705.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
4707.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
最大的地下化代孕工廠 |
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4707.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
4710.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
沒有任何監督跟管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
4710.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
4711.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
那代表什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
4711.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
4713.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
孕母跟小孩都得不到保障啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
4713.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
4714.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
請問院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
4714.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
4717.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
你要台灣也變成這個樣子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
4717.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
4720.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
台灣跟中國完全不一樣就在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
4720.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
4721.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
我們禁止一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
4721.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
4723.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
就不會讓它地下猖狂 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
4723.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
4724.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
院長小心 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
4724.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
4726.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
您接下來看我的這個內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
4726.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
4728.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
我的單位已經成真了 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
4728.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
4730.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
今年6月士林地院判決 |
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4730.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
4733.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
白菜寶寶協會涉嫌違法跨國中間單元 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
4733.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
4735.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
還有詐欺取材 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
4735.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
4737.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
那受害者已經組成自救會 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
4737.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
4741.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
已經足以組成自救會來提告 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
4741.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
4744.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
那目前還有一些孩子的戶籍等問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
4744.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
4745.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
還有非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
4745.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
4747.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
上個禮拜台中地檢署 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
4749.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
4751.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
破獲一起跨國代孕 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
4751.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
4755.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
短短一年就有25名非法代孕 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
4755.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
4757.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
在台灣出生的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
4758.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
4760.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
這些都是台灣的小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
4760.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
4762.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
他們的爸爸都是台灣人 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
4762.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
4764.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
但是孩子沒有法律保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
4765.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
4768.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
那也會面臨侵權身份的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
4768.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
4771.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
那代孕媽媽更是沒有保障 |
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4771.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
4773.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
院長那發生在台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
4773.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
4774.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
台中的一家醫院 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
4774.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
4776.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
她去生出這個孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
4776.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
4781.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
沒有法治化才最可能造成商品化跟剝削 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
4781.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
4782.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
這主要原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
4782.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
4783.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
您同意我這個論調嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
4784.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
4786.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
我應該我們這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
4786.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
4788.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
對一個無法生育的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
4788.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
4790.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
我們用各種方式來協助她是應該的 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
4790.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
4791.89 |
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但是這個方式 |
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4791.89 |
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在這個社會上的價值觀 |
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要普遍被接受 |
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4797.89 |
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而且我們應該有法可管 |
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有社會的風氣 |
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4799.89 |
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社會的習慣 |
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4799.89 |
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4801.89 |
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可以來規範一定的行為 |
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4801.89 |
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4802.89 |
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那我們也相信 |
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4802.89 |
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4804.89 |
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所有進步的女性 |
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4804.89 |
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4805.89 |
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所有進步的女性 |
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4805.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
4809.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
在推動平權家運動的時候 |
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4809.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
4812.89 |
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也不見得完全是都同意這樣的行為 |
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4812.89 |
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4814.89 |
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但是我們希望取得更大的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
4814.89 |
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4815.89 |
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達到平衡點 |
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4815.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
4817.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
醫療的協助者可能您都認識 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
4817.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
4819.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
我們現在反觀中共 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
4819.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
4821.89 |
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這個國家衛生委員10年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
4821.89 |
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4823.89 |
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就說要嚴格的打擊待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
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4826.89 |
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結果越打越猖獗 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
4826.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
4829.89 |
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那台灣就是剛剛我提到的地檢署 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
4829.89 |
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4830.89 |
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破獲這個大案 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
4830.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
4831.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
但是我要告訴院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
4831.89 |
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4833.89 |
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我知道的案例 |
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4833.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
4836.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
其實都沒有包括在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
4836.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
4839.89 |
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那當國家不願法治化管理的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
4839.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
4841.89 |
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中國已經示範給你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
4841.89 |
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4842.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
你意外的禁止 |
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4842.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
4844.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
那人民有需求 |
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4844.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
4846.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
結果呢 地下化 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
4847.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
4849.09 |
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讓很多人都冒著很大的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
4849.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
4851.09 |
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院長 這是你要的結果嗎 |
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4851.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
4852.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
台灣都發生了 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
4852.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
4856.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
我們正也全面收集外國各種的立法力 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
4856.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
4859.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
無論是贊同的或是禁止的 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
4859.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
4860.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
我們來分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
4860.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
4863.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
跟我們台灣社會能不能有一個平衡點 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
4863.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
4865.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
那這個事情的工作一直在進行當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
4865.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
4867.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
院長 我再繼續談 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
4867.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
4871.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
我很遺憾您始終沒有掌握完整的民意 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
4871.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
4873.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
我最近拜訪了一位醫師資政 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
4873.09 |
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4875.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
我想你知道是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
4875.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
4876.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
他對我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
4876.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
4878.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
旁邊還有人 我的助理 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
4878.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
4881.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
代孕是功德無量影響深淵 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
4881.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
4884.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
那張景森前政委他是公開談 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
4884.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
4885.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
在臉書說 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
4885.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
4887.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
不應該用社會沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
4887.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
4889.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
一再拖延這個代孕立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
4889.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
4891.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
他甚至提醒民進黨喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
4891.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
4893.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
因為你號稱是民主進步嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
4893.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
4895.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
他甚至提醒民進黨說要注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
4895.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
4898.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
自己進步這個主張是不是過時了 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
4898.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
4900.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
他總共提出十點 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
4900.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
4901.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
關於代孕修法的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
4901.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
4903.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
我認為相當的精準 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
4903.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
4906.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
可以作為修法的重要參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
4906.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
4908.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
那院長我想請教您 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
4908.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
4909.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
您可以撥點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
4909.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
4912.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
領寶貴的時間向這位資政 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
4913.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
4916.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
還有這個張景森前政委請議 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
4916.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
4917.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
聽聽他們的想法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
4917.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
4918.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
你可以撥時間嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
4918.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
4919.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
當然可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
4919.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
4922.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
張景森前政委無論是在談這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
4922.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
4924.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
或是在談高鐵的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
4924.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
4926.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
我都可以向他來請議 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
4926.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
4928.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
因為他代表的一種聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
4928.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
4929.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
也是臺灣寶貴的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
4929.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
4932.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
院長這位資政本身是不孕症醫師啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
4932.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
4933.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
你知道我指的是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
4933.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
4934.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
臺中的 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
4934.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
4936.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
好 一起來請教他嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
4936.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
4939.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
還有上次委員會人工申職法審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
4939.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
4941.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
民進黨用非常粗暴 霸道 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
4941.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
4942.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
不人道的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
4943.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
4944.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
來對待我 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
4944.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
4946.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
一開始就程序發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
4946.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
4948.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
然後用表決方式把待遇脫鉤 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
4950.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
4953.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
然後當天禁止討論待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
4953.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
4956.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
他完全漠視子宮有缺損的婦女 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
4957.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
4959.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
因為求子不得他的痛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
4959.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
4962.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
當然也扼殺了男童日家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
4962.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
4964.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
他想要有孩子的渴望 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
4965.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
4967.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
所以我想請教院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
4967.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
4969.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
這個秦駿院不是沒有提過 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
4969.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
4972.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
韓代孕的這個人工申職法草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
4972.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
4974.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
其實用專法處理我也可以接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
4975.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
4976.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
4976.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
4978.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
您可以承諾嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
4978.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
4980.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
就是說可不可以再提出一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
4980.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
4982.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
韓有代孕的 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
4982.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
4984.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
這個草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
4984.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
4986.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
用專法也行 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
4986.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
4987.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
可以嗎院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
4987.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
4989.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
因為目前我們在國內的 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
4989.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
4992.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
收集各方的意見差距還是很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
4992.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
4994.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
所以在這個情況底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
4994.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
4996.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
我們所提出的人工申職 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
4996.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
4997.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
不能用這個爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
4997.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
5000.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
院長容許我說天下是誰沒有爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
5002.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
5004.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
但是爭議還是很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
5004.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
5006.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
有接近八成是不同意的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
5006.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
5008.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
那個八成有問題的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
5008.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
5009.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
不是平台上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
5009.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
5010.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
5010.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
5011.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
不好意思 每個人都有爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
5011.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
5013.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
也許我在我的職位上也有爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
5013.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
5015.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
也許您在你的職位上也有爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
5015.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
5017.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
不是用爭議就一再的拖延 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
5017.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
5019.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
我已經告訴你後遺症都出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
5021.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
5023.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
院長 這個牽涉人權跟國安問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
5023.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
5024.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
您 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
5025.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
5027.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
您還覺得有這樣大的疑慮嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
5027.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
5030.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
你也知道台灣今年剩下九萬多嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
5030.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
5031.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
出生數嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
5031.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
5033.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
我想你要背在大腦裡嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
5033.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
5035.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
台灣不需要中國打過來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
5036.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
5038.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
直接亡國滅種啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
5038.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
5040.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
這些是不怕養孩子的人啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
5040.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
5042.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
他有困難啦 醫學上的困難啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
5042.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
5044.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
我還是請院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
5044.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
5046.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
我可以向委員承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
5046.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
5049.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
我們會積極的去尋求更大的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
5049.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
5052.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
過程當中我們會把這個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
5052.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
5055.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
盡量把它弄到一個大家可以看到的時辰 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
5055.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
5058.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
去做出一個可以討論的機制出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
5058.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
5060.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
那這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
5060.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
5062.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
我相信無論是人工申職或代孕 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
5062.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
5064.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
他還有其他的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
5064.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
5066.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
可以來讓希望擁有小孩的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
5066.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
5068.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
沒有其他的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
5068.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
5070.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
子宮有問題的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
5070.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
5072.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
時部長在委員會回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
5072.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
5074.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
我很想罵他 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
5073.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
5075.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
子宮有問題沒有其他替代方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
5075.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
5077.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
我很尊重自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
5077.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
5079.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
他沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
5079.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
5081.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
從自己所重出的小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
5081.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
5083.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
這樣的一個意念 我很尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
5083.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
5085.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
院長我還有故事 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
5085.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
5087.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
今年7月德國執政議會黨團主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
5087.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
5089.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
叫施潘 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
5089.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
5091.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
他辭職下台 我先問院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
5091.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
5093.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
你知道他為什麼辭職嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
5093.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
5095.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
你說赴美代理 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
5095.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
5097.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
對 施潘 不是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
5097.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
5099.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
德國執政議會黨團主席叫施潘 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
5100.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
5102.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
他辭職下台了 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
5102.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
5104.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
院長知道原因嗎 7月的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
5104.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
5108.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
因為他曾經投票反對代孕 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
5108.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
5111.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
可是最後他自己到美國尋求代孕 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
5111.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
5113.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
他被人家說是雙標啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
5114.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
5115.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
這就是我說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
5116.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
5118.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
如果今天是你女兒 你孫女 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
5118.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
5120.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
你的摯愛 你的親友 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
5120.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
5122.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
面對同樣的問題的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
5122.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
5124.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
而且他唯一的希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
5125.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
5127.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
你又不准他去追求 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
5127.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
5129.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
施潘在他的辭職信說 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
5129.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
5133.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
自己在政治職務跟個人幸福之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
5133.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
5135.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
難以平衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
5135.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
5137.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
政治工作就是要找出 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
5137.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
5139.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
這個中間可以的平衡點 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
5139.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
5143.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
讓社會大家通用共用這個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
5143.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
5145.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
這個事情不用太正確 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
5145.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
5147.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
我告訴你他是因為雙標而下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
5147.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
5149.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
而且他需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
5149.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
5151.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
院長一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
5151.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
5153.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
未經他人苦莫勸他人善 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
5154.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
5158.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
未經他人苦莫勸他人善 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
5158.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
5160.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
我再次提醒院長跟反對代孕的同事們 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
5160.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
5162.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
請不要用你的政治職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
5162.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
5164.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
去阻擋別人追求幸福 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
5164.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
5166.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
尤其是民進黨立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
5166.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
5168.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
你們知不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
5168.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
5170.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
貴黨有大咖大咖的人物 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
5170.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
5172.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
他的孫子是利用代孕出生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
5172.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
5174.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
而且不只一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
5175.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
5177.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
他們是親口告訴我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
5177.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
5179.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
那基於尊重隱私 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
5179.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
5181.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
我不會在這裡公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
5181.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
5183.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
院長您知道是誰嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
5183.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
5185.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
5185.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
5187.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
我一直覺得您的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
5187.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
5189.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
您的想法非常的封閉跟封鎖 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
5189.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
5191.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
當然他不告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
5191.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
5193.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
他會告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
5193.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
5195.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
其實反對者對代孕的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
5195.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
5197.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
我必須回到一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
5197.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
5199.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
實際面來談 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
5199.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
5201.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
他們的擔憂是存在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
5201.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
5203.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
我承認這些疑慮是存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
5203.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
5205.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
可是正是因為疑慮存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
5205.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
5207.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
我們是不是應該如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
5207.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
5209.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
更應如此才需要把它法制化 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
5209.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
5211.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
要轉化為具體的法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
5211.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
5213.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
那不是說把問題擱著 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
5213.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
5215.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
莊重沒看見 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
5215.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
5217.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
莊重沒看見房間裡的大象 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
5217.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
5219.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
根據衛福部的統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
5219.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
5221.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
不育女性將近有兩成 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
5222.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
5224.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
他就是子宮有缺損 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
5224.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
5226.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
子宮有缺損 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
5226.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
5228.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
那排除這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
5228.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
5230.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
集團年齡累計大概有一萬多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
5230.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
5232.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
那先帝性子宮像我如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
5232.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
5234.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
發育不全五千個一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
5235.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
5237.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
大概也有一萬多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
5237.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
5241.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
那我現在先不計男男同志家庭的可求 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
5241.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
5243.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
男男同志家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
5244.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
5245.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
反正簡單的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
5245.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
5248.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
黛運是這群人唯一的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
5248.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
5250.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
那一定要阻斷他們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
5250.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
5252.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
一定要逼著他們到海外去求助嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
5254.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
5256.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
麻煩院長回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
5256.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
5260.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
也不願意看到這樣的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
5260.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
5262.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
我們應該尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
5262.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
5264.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
我們尊重每一個生命 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
5264.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
5265.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
無論他是用什麼方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
5265.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
5266.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
他總是一個生命 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
5266.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
5268.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
我們也尊重希望擁有自己小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
5268.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
5270.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
他有一個選擇權 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
5270.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
5272.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
但這個選擇權要放在當今社會當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
5272.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
5274.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
被法律被道德 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
5274.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
5276.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
被所有的社會觀念所能接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
5276.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
5278.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
我希望您對這個議題不要擠 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
5278.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
5280.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
多久以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
5280.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
5282.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
當然您擔任行政院長之後權力更大 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
5282.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
5284.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
我希望您不要永遠是自私的思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
5284.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
5288.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
我今天很鼓勵告訴你海內外的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
5288.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
5290.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
我告訴你台灣也出事了 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
5290.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
5292.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
而且通常你會了解嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
5292.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
5294.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
你也同意吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
5294.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
5296.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
出事都是冰山立角嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
5296.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
5298.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
揭發的才算 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
5297.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
5299.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
不知道的你都不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
5299.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
5301.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
我知道的會比你多 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
5301.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
5303.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
我當然也接觸過來自外國代理 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
5303.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
5305.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
而生的小孩的這個經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
5305.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
5307.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
我是有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
5307.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
5309.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
我也知道他們尋求這個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
5309.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
5311.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
你剛剛也同意說去 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
5311.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
5313.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
譬如說哲偉執政的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
5313.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
5315.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
或是說當前哲偉執政的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
5315.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
5317.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
然後我們看看怎麼來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
5317.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
5319.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
要專訪為什麼可以來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
5319.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
5321.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
你的國家都快完國滅種了 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
5321.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
5323.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
你不擔心嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
5323.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
5325.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
我們會努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
5325.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
5329.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
現在時部長可以請回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
5329.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
5332.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
請法務部跟人事行政總處人事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
5332.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
5334.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
我一邊說 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
5334.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
5336.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
5336.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
5338.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
今年來詐騙案爆增 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
5338.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
5340.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
地檢署114年新售案 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
5340.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
5342.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
高達82萬件 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
5342.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
5345.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
比110年成長的將近3成 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
5345.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
5347.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
法務部的保守估計 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
5347.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
5350.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
大概還需要2009位 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
5350.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
5352.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
這是我們所知 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
5352.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
5354.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
沒問題吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
5354.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
5356.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
5356.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
5358.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
監索犯人近5年來新爆增1萬多 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
5359.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
5361.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
爆增1萬多的收容人 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
5361.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
5363.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
跟這個受刑人 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
5363.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
5365.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
但是管理員不增 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
5364.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
5366.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
反檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
5366.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
5368.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
目前一名大概要看守 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
5368.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
5370.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
多少名受刑人 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
5371.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
5373.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
部長知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
5373.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
5375.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
我考部長好了不要考院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
5375.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
5379.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
一名監索管理員要看守多少名受刑人 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
5379.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
5383.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
我們監索管理員在看守我們在時間上比率是很高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
5383.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
5385.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
應該是7 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
5385.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
5387.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
12名 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
5387.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
5389.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
5389.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
5391.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
因為我是從總體的來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
5391.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
5393.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
我覺得署長也許今天他不用出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
5393.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
5395.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
12名 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
5395.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
5397.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
矯正署直言 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
5397.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
5399.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
這個都是所知 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
5399.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
5401.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
他需要3758人 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
5401.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
5403.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
那近期法務部對監索 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
5403.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
5405.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
操縮的解放 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
5405.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
5407.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
當然竟然是大開前後門 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
5407.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
5409.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
就是輕刑犯都罰錢不要關 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
5409.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
5411.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
要學習美國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
5411.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
5413.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
有點學習美國的零員購 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
5413.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
5415.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
這個該委員我們沒有零員過 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
5415.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
5417.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
5417.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
5419.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
重刑犯我們是具體求重刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
5419.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
5421.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
這個局面沒有零員過 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
5421.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
5423.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
沒有零員過政策我們是完全沒有考慮的 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
5423.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
5425.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
如果正經這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
5425.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
5427.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
所以委員這個在此要澄清 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
5427.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
5429.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
如果正經說抓不到詐騙的 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
5429.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
5431.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
本來就是沒有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
5431.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
5433.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
所以這個零員購這個是媒體那個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
5433.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
5435.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
根本完全沒有政策完全沒有這回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
5435.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
5437.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
這個治安的破口因為誰都扛不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
5437.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
5439.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
誰都扛不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
5439.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
5441.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
那我再次強調我絕不贊成大開前後門 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
5441.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
5443.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
也不能走向零員你說沒有是最好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
5443.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
5445.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
我爭取的就是增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
5445.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
5447.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
檢索管理人力我想請問這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
5447.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
5449.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
任市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
5449.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
5451.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
這個司法院法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
5451.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
5453.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
甲政署是不是多次跟你們溝通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
5453.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
5455.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
他需要增加員額呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
5455.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
5457.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
有或沒有就好了你有重視嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
5457.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
5459.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
我們很重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
5459.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
5461.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
5461.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
5463.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
近十年來我們在這個區塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
5463.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
5465.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
從司法院檢察機關跟甲政署 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
5465.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
5467.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
我們已經增加了四天 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
5467.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
5469.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
我有一個重點你們對外宣稱說 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
5469.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
5471.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
總員額法有第四條第五項 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
5471.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
5473.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
有彈性調整不用修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
5473.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
5475.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
還說我在公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
5475.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
5477.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
他們直接代表這樣講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
5477.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
5479.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
上限還有兩萬多個名額沒用到 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
5479.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
5481.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
額度沒有用到 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
5481.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
5483.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
那我想請問一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
5483.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
5485.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
這個彈性條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
5485.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
5487.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
你們都用過幾次 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
5487.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
5489.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
總員額法下的第四條第五項 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
5489.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
5491.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
有一些重大事情突發事情的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
5491.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
5493.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
其實有一些狀況他是可以做調整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
5493.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
5495.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
你用過幾次你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
5495.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
5497.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
調整這個條款你用過幾次 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
5498.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
5500.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
5500.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
5502.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
上次是在108年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
5502.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
5504.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
總要求證 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
5504.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
5506.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
我直接告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
5506.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
5508.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
我直接告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
5508.95 |
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公聽會一次都沒有啦 |
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5510.95 |
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5512.95 |
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你太硬規啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
5514.39 |
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5516.39 |
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今天還沒有到那個高線 |
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5518.59 |
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5520.59 |
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沒有高線條 |
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5520.59 |
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5522.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
基層申請這個爭奪 |
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5522.59 |
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5524.59 |
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四處崩壁啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
5524.59 |
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5526.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
你們有彈性這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
5526.59 |
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5528.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
第四條第五項 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
5528.59 |
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5530.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
那個是一個彈性可以處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
5530.59 |
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5532.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
請問法務部長那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
5532.59 |
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5534.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
你同意嗎 |
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5534.59 |
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5536.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
就是說現在沒有這個問題 |
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5536.59 |
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5538.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
好都不用你們申請原額也沒有問題 |
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5538.59 |
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5540.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
我們希望是增加原額 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
5540.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
5542.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
我們也是持續黑棍人種 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
5542.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
5544.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
來討論那個預算原額 |
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5544.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
5546.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
這部分我們是希望來申請原額 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
5546.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
5548.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
這是來的請他們評估 |
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5548.59 |
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5550.59 |
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因為你們也做過研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
5550.59 |
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5552.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
因為我們會再做一個有種原額法的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
5552.59 |
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5554.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
所以當然我們是希望能夠增加那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
5554.59 |
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5556.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
所以相信原額嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
5556.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
5558.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
5558.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
5560.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
剛委員問到那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
5560.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
5562.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
剛剛那個比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
5562.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
5564.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
我們是要增加那個預算原額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
5564.59 |
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5566.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
1比12沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
5566.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
5568.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
我們跟法務部一直在努力處理這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
5568.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
5570.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
現在是10.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
5572.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
5574.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
那個人事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
5574.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
5576.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
台灣的這個戒護比呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
5576.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
5578.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
就是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
5578.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
5580.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
這個鎮守管理員要看顧多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
5580.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
5582.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
這個受刑人呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
5582.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
5584.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
現在調整到1比10.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
5584.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
5586.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
現在已經改善到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
5586.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
5588.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
1比10.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
5588.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
5590.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
沒有沒有你這個分歧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
5590.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
5592.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
有很多操作都不行啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
5592.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
5594.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
剛好今年的六月底都持續在改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
5594.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
5596.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
用平均很危險啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
5596.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
5598.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
但是事實上大概就是平均就 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
5598.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
5600.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
已經1比12了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
5600.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
5602.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
美國是1比2多嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
5602.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
5604.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
美國是1比4嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
5604.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
5606.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
韓國是1比3嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
5606.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
5608.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
想想看好好反省你們的研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
5608.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
5610.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
你們研究說至少要1比6到8啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
5611.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
5613.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
打炸不能只靠燃燒基層啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
5613.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
5615.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
這生命啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
5615.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
5617.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
所以你們的彈性調整看得到吃不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
5617.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
5619.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
好證明需要修改 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
5619.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
5621.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
怎麼修改是可以討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
5621.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
5623.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
那人總是不是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
5623.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
5625.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
一個月內你研議提出你的修法草案給我們看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
5625.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
5627.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
你怎麼做點修正吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
5627.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
5629.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
暗拼不動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
5629.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
5631.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
你上次有跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
5631.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
5633.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
因為這個空間還有2萬2千多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
5634.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
5636.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
你看看怎麼處理嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
5636.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
5638.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
還沒有到高限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
5638.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
5640.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
當委提出來以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
5640.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
5642.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
我們就會協助來做評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
5642.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
5644.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
5644.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
5646.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
一件事就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
5646.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
5648.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
過去司法檢查矯正機關10年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
5648.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
5650.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
增加4千人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
5650.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
5652.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
當然人數不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
5652.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
5654.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
現在法定的原額編制16萬多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
5654.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
5656.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
但是我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
5656.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
5658.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
預算原額只編了13萬多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
5658.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
5660.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
我會同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
5660.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
5662.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
我也會支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
5662.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
5664.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
這個治安的狀況底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
5664.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
5666.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
增加預算原額給 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
5666.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
5668.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
相關司法檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
5668.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
5670.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
以及找現任人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
5670.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
5672.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
我會同意我會支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
5672.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
5674.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
我所知後他們也提出他們的真正需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
5674.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
5676.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
那我是依據這個資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
5676.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
5678.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
來詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
5678.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
5680.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
總原額法有一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
5680.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
5682.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
有彈性條款就從來沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
5682.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
5684.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
動用過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
5684.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
5686.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
目前還不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
5686.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
5688.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
動用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
5688.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
5690.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
我們只要增加預算原額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
5690.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
5692.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
任總書面高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
5692.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
5694.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
謝謝你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
5694.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
5696.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
我請內政部劉部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
5696.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
5698.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
環境部彭部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
5698.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
5700.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
5701.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
5703.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
我一邊說節省時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
5703.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
5705.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
為了解決這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
5705.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
5707.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
營建剩餘土石方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
5707.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
5709.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
今年任院院長您宣布了大田海造陸計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
5709.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
5711.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
讓原本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
5711.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
5713.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
收容這個港區蘇峻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
5713.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
5715.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
坦紗的為主的台中港 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
5715.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
5717.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
他變成要去承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
5717.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
5719.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
上千萬立方公尺的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
5719.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
5721.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
營建剩餘土石方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
5721.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
5723.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
那陳委時間暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
5723.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
5725.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
陳委我們就兩位部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
5725.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
5727.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
時間暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
5727.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
5729.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
我們不適合這麼多好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
5729.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
5731.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
5731.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
5733.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
請內政部長交通部長備訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
5733.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
5735.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
其他兩位部長請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
5735.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
5737.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
稍微等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
5737.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
5739.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
但我這題有涉及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
5739.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
5741.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
部長也表達尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
5741.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
5743.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
為了解決營建剩餘土石方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
5743.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
5745.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
院長您在六月有宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
5745.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
5747.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
大田海造陸計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
5747.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
5749.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
原本是要收容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
5749.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
5751.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
港區蘇峻海沙的台中港 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
5751.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
5753.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
現在變成要去承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
5753.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
5756.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
上千萬立方公尺的營建剩餘土石方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
5756.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
5758.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
還有上百萬立方公尺的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
5758.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
5760.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
所謂再生力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
5760.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
5761.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
我先請問這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
5761.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
5763.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
彭部長沒上來喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
5763.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
5765.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
我剛剛有請你上來耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
5766.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
5768.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
麻煩請彭部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
5768.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
5769.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
部長您一邊聽好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
5769.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
5770.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
因為您聽得懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
5770.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
5772.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
這塊地已經被海委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
5773.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
5775.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
公告為白海豚重要棲地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
5775.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
5777.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
那台中港既然要變更用途啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
5778.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
5780.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
那為什麼不用走環評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
5780.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
5781.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
部長回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
5781.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
5782.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
為什麼用或不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
5782.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
5783.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
第一個喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
5783.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
5784.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
我們非常重視白海豚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
5784.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
5786.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
我們不會去破壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
5786.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
5788.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
我們要避免白海豚受到各種傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
5788.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
5789.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
就是那塊地啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
5789.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
5791.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
對 但是這個事情是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
5791.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
5794.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
因為我們環評是雙木地主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
5794.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
5796.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
所以在民國111年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
5796.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
5798.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
我們有請交通部來認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
5798.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
5799.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
這塊要不要環評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
5799.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
5803.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
因為它外面有一塊凸出去的皮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
5803.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
5805.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
按照目前的法規認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
5805.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
5806.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
它是不需要環評的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
5807.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
5808.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
不需要環評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
5808.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
5809.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
那個圖麻煩這個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
5809.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
5810.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
你要親自看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
5810.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
5811.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
因為每次開這個公園 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
5811.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
5813.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
當然也沒辦法請動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
5813.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
5814.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
您這位大部長來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
5815.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
5816.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
我先問喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
5816.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
5818.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
高雄港填方區工程計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
5818.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
5819.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
要進入二階環評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
5819.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
5820.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
為什麼台中港就不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
5820.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
5822.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
那個目前還沒有送進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
5822.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
5824.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
因為它的另外一個範圍的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
5824.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
5826.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
然後還有要請交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
5826.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
5827.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
他們來認定這個港 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
5827.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
5828.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
是不是需要環評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
5828.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
5829.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
因為這個在法規裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
5829.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
5831.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
主委您要放在心上喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
5831.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
5836.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
那個保育是你們很重要的責任喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
5836.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
5837.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
目前推動的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
5837.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
5838.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
彭部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
5838.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
5840.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
南填方區工程經費高達104億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
5840.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
5843.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
那事實上就是111的商港計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
5843.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
5845.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
我主持過好幾次記者會喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
5845.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
5846.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
可能五次以上喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
5846.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
5848.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
行政機關又說這是106的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
5848.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
5850.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
商港計畫的既有開放 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
5850.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
5852.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
我想請問交通部陳部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
5852.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
5854.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
不好意思陳部長您出席嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
5854.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
5855.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
陳部長請備行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
5855.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
5856.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
再聽一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
5856.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
5857.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
我走這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
5857.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
5858.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
5858.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
5859.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
不行喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
5860.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
5861.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
這個說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
5863.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
5865.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
行政機關應說這是106的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
5865.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
5866.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
商港計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
5866.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
5868.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
那請問你們的28億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
5870.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
5873.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
預算如何包含104億的工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
5873.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
5874.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
5874.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
5875.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
這個真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
5875.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
5877.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
拿A計畫A開發計畫來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
5877.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
5878.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
講B開發計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
5878.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
5880.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
想要護航說不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
5880.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
5882.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
這個大填海計畫不用環評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
5882.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
5883.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
5883.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
5884.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
我要告訴這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
5884.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
5885.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
那個院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
5885.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
5887.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
這個海委會是在2020年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
5887.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
5889.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
8月3日公告為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
5889.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
5890.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
白海豚重要基地喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
5890.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
5892.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
你公布啦海委會公布 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
5892.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
5894.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
那行政院是9月之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
5894.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
5895.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
9月2日才核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
5895.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
5897.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
備查106的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
5897.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
5898.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
香港第三次修正計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
5898.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
5900.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
那根據香港法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
5900.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
5901.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
就是開發行為應時事環評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
5901.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
5903.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
等於計畫認定等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
5903.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
5904.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
標準第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
5905.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
5907.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
重要基地就要進行環評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
5907.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
5908.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
請問卓院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
5908.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
5910.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
現在連基本的這個法定程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
5910.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
5912.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
都不需要遵守嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
5912.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
5914.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
那海委會你還把主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
5914.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
5915.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
推給台東市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
5915.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
5916.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
這樣對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
5917.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
5918.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
報告委員喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
5918.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
5920.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
白海豚的保育啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
5920.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
5922.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
政府會請全力來保育白海豚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
5922.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
5924.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
這個無庸置疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
5924.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
5926.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
至於台中港為了解決這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
5926.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
5928.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
建築土石方的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
5928.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
5930.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
它原來的填土方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
5931.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
5933.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
增加讓各種公民營的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
5933.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
5935.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
這個案件可以進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
5935.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
5936.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
我覺得我剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
5936.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
5937.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
也蠻具體的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
5937.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
5939.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
但是它並不動到這個環評的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
5939.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
5941.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
除非它要做一個大的海堤 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
5941.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
5943.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
那個海堤的環評是另外一回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
5943.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
5945.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
我今天沒有辦法把細節給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
5945.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
5947.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
因為很多事情你不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
5947.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
5949.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
寧願在你高高在雲動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
5949.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
5951.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
我都去過台中港看過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
5951.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
5952.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
我也了解這個程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
5952.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
5955.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
那目前我們在以保育為優先的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
5955.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
5957.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
狀況底下來處理這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
5957.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
5958.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
要求做環評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
5958.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
5960.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
那野生動物在重要基地審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
5960.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
5962.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
這兩個審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
5962.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
5964.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
院長您可以買單嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
5965.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
5966.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
我是萬人座環評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
5966.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
5968.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
加上野生動物 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
5968.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
5969.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
重要基地審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
5970.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
5972.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
野生動物的保育一直是政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
5972.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
5974.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
跟人民一直努力在做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
5974.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
5976.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
沒有錯我們願意做啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
5976.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
5978.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
我才會提出願意可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
5978.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
5981.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
白海豚我們會用保育富裕的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
5981.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
5982.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
來維護他的生態 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
5982.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
5984.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
現在在這裡的彭部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
5985.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
5987.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
不在這個要做環評啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
5987.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
5989.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
還有野生動物重要基地審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
5989.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
5994.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
院長您就是同意可以做嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
5994.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
5996.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
當然我說白海豚的保育富裕的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
5996.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
5998.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
政府會把它列為優先來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
5998.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
6001.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
這兩件事可以來cover |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
6001.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
6002.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
你所謂保護白海豚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
6002.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
6003.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
6003.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
6004.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
這個一級保育類的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
6004.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
6006.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
台灣難得如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
6006.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
6008.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
好那現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
6010.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
6013.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
這兩件事環評加造自動物保育審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
6013.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
6017.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
我們有很多相關的計畫都已經在執行當中了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
6017.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
6018.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
院長就是出問題啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
6018.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
6020.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
我比你比較關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
6020.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
6021.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
現在我們既然要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
6021.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
6022.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
您在林端啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
6022.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
6023.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
6023.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
6026.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
我們既然要讓台中港的功能能夠增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
6026.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
6028.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
填海造作計畫能夠完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
6028.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
6032.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
就必須去面對這些環評生態的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
6032.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
6033.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
該做的事還是做嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
6033.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
6035.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
好謝謝兩位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
6035.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
6037.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
我再請經濟部公部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
6037.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
6038.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
公部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
6038.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
6040.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
國民新部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
6040.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
6041.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
我們請經濟部長備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
6045.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
6046.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
6046.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
6052.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
中游三街已經被最高行政法院撤銷開發面積95.4公頃了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
6052.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
6053.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
為什麼沒有停工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
6055.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
6057.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
報委員那個只是第一個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
6057.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
6059.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
而且是後面還有兩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
6060.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
6064.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
後面事實上後面的這個報的院還有這個程序上來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
6064.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
6066.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
已經把前面包起來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
6066.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
6068.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
所以後面的這個是程序還在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
6068.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
6069.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
你講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
6069.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
6072.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
我也不知道如果全國人在聽誰聽得懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
6072.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
6075.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
經濟部不是要重做一個新的行政處分嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
6075.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
6076.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
我的了解是這樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
6076.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
6080.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
還是說你覺得法院最高行政法院他的判決根本不用理呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
6080.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
6081.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
6081.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
6082.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
因為他是有分階段的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
6082.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
6086.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
第一階段他只有做一個比較小的一個入檔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
6086.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
6089.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
那那個入檔當然行政上程序上來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
6089.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
6091.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
最高法院有點意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
6091.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
6096.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
但是後面的後面報過去的這個部分已經把這個部分cover進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
6096.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
6101.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
你可不可以先停止利用那個判決設定判決設施確定部分那個海岸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
6101.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
6104.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
就判決確定的部分先停止利用他嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
6104.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
6106.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
那事實上那個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
6106.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
6108.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
事實上那個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
6108.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
6110.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
我們現在製作的部分也沒有那個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
6110.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
6112.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
沒有用到那個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
6112.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
6115.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
所以其他的部分還是在持續進行當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
6115.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
6116.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
那你也可以下令停工啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
6116.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
6120.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
不然他已經公告這個最高行政法院已經公告這個命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
6120.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
6121.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
但我們看不到任何動作啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
6121.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
6123.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
那你想人民怎麼想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
6123.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
6124.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
6124.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
6127.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
我們在為了這個行政機關的民意代表我們怎麼想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
6127.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
6131.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
沒有我們還是依這個當初核定的部分來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
6131.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
6135.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
你的意思是說你會尊重最高行政法院的裁定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
6135.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
6136.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
6136.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
6139.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
最高行政法院的判決的那個範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
6149.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
6150.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
對時間到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
6151.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
6152.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
我知道你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
6152.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
6154.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
謝謝謝謝陳委員謝謝陳昭政委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
6154.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
6156.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
謝謝主任院長各相關部會首長備詢謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
6166.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
6170.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
好接下來我們請范雲委員質詢傅崑錫委請準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
6176.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
6178.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
謝謝韓院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
6178.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
6179.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
有請卓院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
6180.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
6181.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
麻煩再請卓院長備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
6193.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
6194.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
范委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
6194.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
6195.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
卓院長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
6195.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
6197.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
我想先請問卓院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
6197.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
6202.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
從我們上次8月底這個上個會期的會議結束到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
6202.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
6205.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
那您最近工作情況還好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
6206.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
6207.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
一如往常 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
6207.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
6209.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
一如往常沒有休假在家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
6209.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
6212.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
而且各種國際的變化跟國內的形式一直有變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
6212.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
6215.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
所以我們還是有接續不斷的會議再開 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
6215.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
6217.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
再面對解決各種不同的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
6217.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
6219.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
所以您並沒有休假在家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
6221 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
6222 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
6222 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
6223 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
沒有都在工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
6223 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
6224 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
連假日都很少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
6224 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
6227 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
那所以今天是10月2號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
6227 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
6231 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
我想請問卓院長您上個月的薪水入帳了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
6232.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
6233.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
我還沒有領 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
6233.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
6234.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
沒有領 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
6234.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
6239.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
那我覺得這是個很嚴重嚴肅的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
6239.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
6241.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
所以非常的希望跟卓院長討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
6241.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
6242.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
我們都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
6242.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
6244.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
上個月上個會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
6244.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
6246.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
由翁曉玲委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
6246.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
6249.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
李承鄭提案馬找出來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
6249.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
6252.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
他指責行政院長不適任的隔奎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
6252.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
6255.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
所以提案凍結行政院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
6256.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
6259.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
115年9月到12月的薪資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
6259.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
6262.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
投票結果贊成的59人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
6262.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
6265.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
我們民進黨51位立委都反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
6265.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
6267.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
那這個案子通過之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
6267.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
6269.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
我自己也去做了一個研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
6269.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
6272.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
那我知道總統已經有批示 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
6272.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
6275.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
覺得這樣子非常的不能接受違法違憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
6275.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
6276.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
那我自己喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
6276.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
6279.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
秉著研究的精神去看了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
6279.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
6282.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
到底立法院能不能因為政治立場不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
6282.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
6285.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
決定一位依法任職的行政首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
6285.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
6287.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
幾個月不能領薪水 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
6287.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
6288.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
我們看了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
6288.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
6291.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
其實預算法52條就有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
6291.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
6294.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
立法院通過預算的附加條件如果違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
6296.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
6298.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
這個條件就失效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
6298.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
6300.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
這是預算法52條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
6300.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
6303.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
如果附加條件違法該條件失效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
6304.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
6307.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
憲法54條跟行政院組織法第10條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
6307.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
6310.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
都有很清楚說行政院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
6310.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
6315.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
就是憲法跟相關法律保障的法定職位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
6315.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
6318.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
所以您的薪水就是預算法的法定預算嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
6318.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
6319.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
這沒錯吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
6319.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
6321.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
那我們再來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
6321.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
6323.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
過去國會有沒有發生類似的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
6323.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
6326.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
行政院長這真的是第一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
6326.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
6330.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
可是在過去陳水扁總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
6330.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
6333.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
擔任總統的朝小野大的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
6333.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
6334.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
有類似的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
6334.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
6338.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
2005年曾經發生立法院刪除大法官的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
6338.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
6341.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
司法專業加給的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
6341.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
6346.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
後來釋字61號的解釋被判定違憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
6346.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
6349.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
那我想這三個法跟憲法跟釋字的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
6349.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
6352.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
601號解釋應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
6352.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
6354.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
這個社會很多人不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
6354.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
6356.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
那但是院長應該很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
6356.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
6358.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
所以我今天想跟院長討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
6358.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
6361.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
我覺得您的薪水不是個人問題了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
6361.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
6363.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
因為今天他代表立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
6363.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
6365.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
可不可以用預算決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
6365.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
6369.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
停止依法任職的政務人員薪資的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
6369.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
6372.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
他也對未來的國會有示範作用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
6372.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
6376.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
我們今天是因為憲法法庭也被癱瘓了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
6376.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
6377.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
所以沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
6377.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
6379.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
如同2005年有這個釋憲文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
6379.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
6381.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
但是他的精神應該要被遵守 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
6381.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
6383.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
不知道院長您是不是同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
6384.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
6387.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
陳盧委員剛剛所引用的相當多的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
6387.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
6389.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
包括憲法54條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
6389.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
6392.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
以及行政院組織法第四條等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
6392.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
6393.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
這都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
6394.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
6396.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
談到政務人員的待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
6396.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
6399.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
有依照政務人員局表他所呈現的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
6399.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
6401.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
它都是一個法定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
6401.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
6403.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
法定的一個經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
6403.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
6404.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
是不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
6405.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
6407.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
刪除凍結的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
6407.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
6409.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
如果今天行政院長可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
6409.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
6411.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
部長也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
6411.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
6413.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
如果中央可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
6413.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
6414.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
未來地方也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
6414.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
6415.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
那全國只要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
6416.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
6418.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
行政部門跟議會部門不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
6418.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
6420.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
都可能發生這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
6420.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
6422.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
所以這個是嚴格限制在內的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
6422.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
6426.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
所以透過年度預算的這個法定經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
6427.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
6431.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
來凍結是想用凍結來影響來改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
6431.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
6434.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
甚至來拘束行政機關的各種行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
6434.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
6436.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
這絕對是依法不拒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
6436.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
6437.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
所以當 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
6438.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
6440.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
通過這樣的一個案子的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
6440.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
6441.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
附帶的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
6441.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
6444.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
又是希望我們把不附屬的這些法律案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
6444.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
6446.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
能夠讓它成為生效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
6446.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
6449.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
但這個又違背了憲法總統時日公布 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
6449.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
6450.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
法律的這樣的期限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
6450.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
6451.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
已經不可能了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
6451.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
6455.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
所以對一個致死不可能成就的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
6455.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
6457.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
來加以附加條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
6457.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
6459.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
視為這個條件致死都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
6461.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
6464.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
所以這樣的行為也沒有辦法拘束到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
6464.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
6465.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
是不是該領 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
6465.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
6467.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
但為什麼我到現在沒有去領 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
6467.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
6468.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
我是想今天在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
6468.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
6470.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
讓我跟韓院長來比較一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
6470.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
6472.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
韓院長高高坐在上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
6472.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
6473.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
我站在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
6473.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
6475.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
這是因為有薪水的院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
6475.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
6477.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
我是因為沒有領薪水的院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
6477.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
6478.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
讓國人看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
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但是基於維護所有公務人員的尊嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
6482.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
6485.15 |
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跟工作必要的以及生活必要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
6485.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
6488.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
我不會放棄這種法定的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
6488.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
6490.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
我今天要向委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
6490.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
6492.15 |
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我也謝謝很多的委員是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
6492.15 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
站在法的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
6494.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
6496.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
沒有去贊成這個案子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
6496.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
6499.15 |
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但是我要跟所有法去支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
6499.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
6503.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
凍結三減政務人員預算的所有委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
6503.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
6506.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
你們這樣的方式會讓整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
6506.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
6509.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
府會之間中央地方的府會之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
6509.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
6511.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
都造成相當大的困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
6511.27 |
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6513.27 |
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此例絕不可開 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
6513.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
6516.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
我也不會用開這個例來讓這個行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
6516.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
6519.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
變成它是一個成就不法的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
6519.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
6523.27 |
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所以依法領薪水是人民的俸祿 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
6523.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
6525.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
我們接受人民的俸祿 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
6525.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
6527.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
依法做公務的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
6527.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
6531.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
這是責任跟權利相當的平衡的一個工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
6531.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
6534.27 |
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好謝謝院長您這樣講我就放心了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
6534.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
6537.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
因為我真的就如同剛剛卓院長說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
6537.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
6540.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
如果今天國會可以對行政院長這麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
6541.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
6544.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
那未來各級議會就有可能也用同樣的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
6544.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
6547.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
對待不同政治立場的政務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
6547.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
6549.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
那我想這會是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
6549.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
6555.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
就是讓政治杯葛凌駕憲政跟法律界限的惡例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
6555.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
6558.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
所以真的不是卓院長個人薪水的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
6558.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
6562.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
它是一個守護憲政跟法律的界限的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
6562.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
6566.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
那我相信韓院長在這邊應該也會認同這句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
6566.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
6570.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
政治杯葛不應凌駕憲政跟法律的界限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
6570.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
6575.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
那謝謝卓院長就是守護憲政跟法律的界限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
6575.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
6576.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
這是應該要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
6576.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
6581.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
所以我說守護憲法是每一個國人應該有的義務跟責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
6581.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
6582.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
而不是哪一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
6582.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
6586.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
也不是任何一個人可以去破壞憲法的規定跟憲法的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
6586.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
6590.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
好謝謝卓院長一起守護這條界限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
6590.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
6592.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
那我今天第二題呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
6592.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
6596.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
想跟院長請教另外一個也覺得很重要的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
6596.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
6598.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
幫我們公民團體詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
6598.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
6601.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
這個禮拜二晚上就是我們的開日 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
6601.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
6605.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
精明聯等40個公民團體發起一個遊行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
6605.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
6608.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
那他們只請113位立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
6608.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
6611.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
那謝謝他們邀請我去報告一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
6611.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
6615.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
就是這一次總預算當追加的預算當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
6615.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
6618.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
有多少社會福利的加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
6618.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
6624.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
那當天他們很關心說總預算延宕了審查351天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
6624.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
6627.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
如果繼續延宕會發生什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
6627.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
6631.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
很多人其實包含當天在場的公民團體都不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
6631.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
6633.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
就是行政院的追加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
6633.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
6639.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
這裡面包含八大社會福利跟生活補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
6639.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
6644.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
那因為媒體聚焦的可能是中油台電的這些補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
6644.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
6646.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
那我想特別在這邊講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
6646.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
6651.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
老農今天是從原本8110元增加到1萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
6651.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
6654.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
國民年金從4049到5000 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
6654.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
6657.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
這裡面有很多是家庭主婦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
6657.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
6660.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
那老農也是相對來講國家應該守護的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
6660.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
6664.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
還有六大社福包含中低收老人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
6664.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
6665.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
弱勢兒少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
6665.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
6666.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
低收家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
6666.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
6667.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
低收入戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
6667.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
6668.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
兒童就學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
6668.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
6670.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
還有身障者的生活補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
6670.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
6671.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
全面調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
6671.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
6673.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
接近四分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
6673.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
6677.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
那還有特別不是一般的福利軍公教人員的待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
6677.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
6679.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
包含基層同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
6679.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
6682.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
新增2000塊的職務加給 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
6682.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
6685.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
然後通案調增4% |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
6685.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
6689.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
這個有72萬的軍公教也會受益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
6689.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
6691.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
那這個部分我當天有跟大家報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
6691.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
6692.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
那我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
6693.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
6694.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
請問院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
6694.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
6695.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
我剛剛講的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
6695.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
6699.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
已經送到立法院的這個追加的這個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
6699.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
6705.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
裡面包含318萬弱勢跟72萬的軍公教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
6705.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
6708.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
那最快大家什麼時候可以拿到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
6708.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
6710.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
如果立法院預算又延宕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
6710.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
6711.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
會有什麼影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
6711.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
6713.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
今天有一些媒體有一個標題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
6713.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
6716.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
他說如果追加預算沒有過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
6717.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
6718.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
那行政院就不發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
6720.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
6722.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
其實這樣的標題是錯誤的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
6722.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
6724.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
行政院如果追加預算沒有過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
6724.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
6726.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
行政院非不為也 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
6726.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
6727.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
是不能也 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
6727.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
6729.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
因為就沒有預算可以去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
6729.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
6731.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
所以我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
6731.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
6732.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
那如果拖到明年呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
6732.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
6734.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
像總預算拖300萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
6734.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
6737.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
這是115年度的總預算的追加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
6737.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
6740.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
一定要在115年可以去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
6740.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
6742.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
去開始執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
6742.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
6744.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
它才有這個時效性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
6744.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
6746.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
那明年就到明年116年去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
6746.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
6747.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
所以我們期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
6748.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
6751.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
大院能夠加速來審議這個追加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
6751.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
6754.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
那個11月底如果能夠通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
6754.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
6757.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
那我們才有時間來進行後續的作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
6757.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
6759.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
況且我們如果看這次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
6759.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
6760.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
今年的中央政府總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
6761.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
6762.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
8月14號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
6762.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
6763.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
三讀通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
6764.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
6767.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
一直到9月18號才送到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
6767.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
6768.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
總統府去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
6769.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
6771.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
讓總統府去公布 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
6771.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
6774.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
三讀到送到總統府差了將近一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
6774.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
6776.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
那如果11月底通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
6778.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
6780.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
那立法院還有時間慢慢就算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
6780.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
6782.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
但是如果沒有留給行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
6782.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
6784.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
好好的去做後續工作的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
6784.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
6786.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
那這個是無法執行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
6786.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
6788.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
所以我們期待11月底要完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
6788.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
6790.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
中央政府今年度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
6790.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
6792.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
追加預算的審議工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
6792.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
6794.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
那我這樣講不知道對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
6794.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
6796.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
這個福利加起來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
6796.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
6798.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
或者軍公教這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
6798.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
6800.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
事實上可能會超過1萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
6800.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
6801.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
是數字不少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
6801.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
6803.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
因為是從7月到年底嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
6803.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
6804.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
6804.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
6806.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
那這樣子如果今年底沒有通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
6806.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
6808.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
拖到明年就完全失效了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
6808.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
6809.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
是這樣子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
6809.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
6811.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
是 但如果沒有在今年通過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
6811.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
6812.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
明年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
6813.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
6815.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
主席長我們明年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
6815.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
6817.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
115年就失效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
6817.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
6818.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
就沒有辦法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
6818.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
6820.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
因為他跟總預算不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
6820.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
6821.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
沒有辦法拖這麼久 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
6821.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
6822.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
因為他是追加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
6822.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
6824.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
到年底就失效了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
6824.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
6825.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
到年底就失效了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
6825.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
6827.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
那請大家一起來關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
6827.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
6829.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
就是行政院的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
6829.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
6831.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
就是能夠讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
6831.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
6833.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
八大社福弱勢團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
6833.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
6838.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
318萬人加72萬的軍公教受益的重要福利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
6838.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
6839.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
我想也在這邊呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
6839.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
6842.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
那謝謝主席長請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
6842.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
6845.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
那最後一題想問教育部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
6845.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
6848.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
我想院長你也認同這句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
6849.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
6851.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
教師安心才有好的教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
6851.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
6854.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
教育改革一定要兼顧教師權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
6854.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
6856.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
跟學生權益沒錯吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
6856.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
6857.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
6857.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
6860.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
那我想請問部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
6860.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
6863.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
那我先謝謝部長跟院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
6863.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
6866.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
最近增聘了校安人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
6866.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
6867.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
那我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
6867.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
6870.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
基層的反應我們聽到的都很肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
6870.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
6872.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
就是謝謝院長的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
6872.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
6874.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
還有部長的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
6874.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
6876.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
那讓教師在校安這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
6876.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
6879.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
能夠稍微的就是覺得比較安心一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
6879.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
6882.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
那可是我想部長非常的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
6882.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
6885.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
我們上個會期在教文委員會中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
6885.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
6888.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
在程序上跟民主討論上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
6888.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
6890.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
很多本黨立委都不能接受的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
6890.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
6892.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
那但是這個解聘辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
6892.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
6894.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
後來的確是被退回了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
6894.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
6898.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
那我想教育部也一定都有在滾動式的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
6898.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
6900.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
那請問部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
6900.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
6902.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
那之後你們有沒有聆聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
6902.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
6905.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
有沒有機會聆聽第一線教師的聲音呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
6905.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
6908.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
謝謝委員關心這有關這個校園 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
6908.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
6912.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
怎麼樣確保能夠有好良好的教學品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
6912.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
6915.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
讓這些老師能夠安心教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
6915.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
6917.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
然後不適任老師能夠遠離校園 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
6917.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
6922.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
那確實我們針對過去紛紛擾擾的濫述 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
6922.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
6924.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
在去年之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
6924.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
6927.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
事實上我們在新的辦法裡邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
6927.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
6928.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
解決了這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
6928.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
6932.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
也就把濫述跟不具名投訴的全部不受理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
6932.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
6934.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
這光這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
6934.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
6936.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
等於說進入到校制會議的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
6936.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
6939.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
就一下子就減了50% |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
6939.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
6943.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
那在這裡邊我們看到的分流的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
6943.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
6946.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
包括為罪不舉的校長的提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
6946.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
6950.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
或者有更積極的班級經營這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
6950.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
6954.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
大概就回到學校裡邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
6954.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
6956.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
直接處理不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
6957.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
6961.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
邀請什麼校外的委員來這一個調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
6961.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
6963.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
這個都回到學校裡邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
6963.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
6968.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
那在未來我們確實也現在跟地方各地方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
6968.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
6970.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
不管教師團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
6970.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
6972.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
這個民間家長團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
6972.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
6974.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
或者校長團體還有各地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
6974.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
6976.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
我們現在大概主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
6976.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
6978.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
除了把現有的這個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
6978.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
6980.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
一直在往好的方向走 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
6980.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
6983.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
這個我們在希望能夠滾動式修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
6983.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
6986.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
大概我們目前未來會著重在一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
6986.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
6989.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
教師權益的確保 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
6989.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
6993.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
預防所謂的職場的不法侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
6993.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
6996.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
這個部分我們希望能夠把它納進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
6996.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
7001.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
那另外一個就是我們怎麼樣去明文的確保 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
7001.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
7005.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
這一個教師的合理管教的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
7006.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
7010.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
這樣的一個合理管教的這樣一個管教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
7010.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
7012.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
這一個也是我們在未來裡邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
7012.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
7015.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
我們目前在整個辦法裡邊會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
7015.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
7017.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
朝那個方向來更精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
7017.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
7018.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
謝謝部長的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
7018.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
7019.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
因為據我的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
7019.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
7022.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
你們的確都有邀請第一線的教師團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
7022.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
7024.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
雖然我覺得還可以邀得更廣一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
7024.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
7028.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
那我自己也邀了主要的這些團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
7028.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
7030.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
一一跟他們深入的對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
7030.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
7032.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
那所以我想在這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
7032.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
7037.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
你們還沒有公布你們的一些滾動式檢討的內容的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
7037.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
7039.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
我想有五大提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
7039.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
7041.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
第一個剛剛部長也有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
7041.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
7044.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
教師目前最關心的就是如何解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
7044.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
7047.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
濫訴或者少數的恐龍家長的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
7047.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
7049.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
那保護教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
7049.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
7050.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
那您剛剛有講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
7050.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
7054.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
明文規範受理不受理的理由該退回就退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
7054.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
7055.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
那依照職安法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
7055.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
7057.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
我想剛剛部長有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
7057.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
7059.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
其實我們未還委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
7059.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
7061.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
勞動部這邊有職安法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
7061.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
7064.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
那可以制定校園不法的侵害預防指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
7064.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
7069.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
就跟醫護他不應該被不合理的病人的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
7069.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
7071.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
就是各種的霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
7071.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
7073.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
那第二個無辜教師的補償 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
7073.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
7076.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
雖然教文委員已經做了部分的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
7076.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
7080.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
那大家還是認為其實他沒有完整的薪水 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
7080.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
7083.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
如果最後被判他基本上是無辜的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
7083.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
7085.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
還有名譽回復的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
7085.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
7088.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
那這裡代理教師又更受傷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
7088.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
7091.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
那還有調查報告委員名單不遮蔽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
7091.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
7094.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
還有調查要更有教育的專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
7094.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
7096.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
那當然很多的減壓措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
7096.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
7098.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
那我想我就不再提了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
7106.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
7108.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
好謝謝蔡委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
7108.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
7110.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
謝謝主任院長相關部會首長備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
7117.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
7118.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
好 沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
7140.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
7144.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
報告委員會因為有一批長輩動作比較慢一點點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
7144.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
7146.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
他們正在依序的要做到旁聽席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
7146.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
7148.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
我們稍微等一下下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
7175.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
7176.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
好 歡迎大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
7176.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
7179.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
我們現在台北市士林區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
7179.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
7182.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
林西里的一些長輩立法院來參觀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
7182.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
7183.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
我們掌聲歡迎大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
7187.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
7190.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
接下來我們請傅崑琪委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
7191.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
7193.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
莊瑞詢委員請準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
7218.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
7220.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
主席請院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
7220.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
7222.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
麻煩再請主任院長備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
7232.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
7233.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
副委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
7233.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
7234.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
院長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
7235.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
7237.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
這個全國國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
7237.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
7239.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
一起每天都在看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
7240 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
7242 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
這個行政院發布 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
7242.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
7245.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
這個經濟果實全民共享 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
7245.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
7246.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
台灣經濟的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
7246.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
7248.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
是因為台灣人才輩出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
7249.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
7250.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
台灣的教育成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
7251.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
7253.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
由於這麼多的人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
7253.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
7254.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
7254.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
7255.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
7255.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
7256.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
經國先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
7256.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
7257.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
經國先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
7259.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
7260.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
當時啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
7260.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
7262.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
創立了台積電 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
7262.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
7264.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
孫一璇 李國鼎先生 趙耀東先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
7265.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
7269.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
能夠把台積電正式的成立以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
7269.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
7271.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
到50年後的今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
7272.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
7274.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
全面的發光發熱 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
7274.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
7278.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
台灣成為全世界最重要的科技島 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
7278.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
7281.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
上中下游的產業鏈是最為完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
7281.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
7282.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
7282.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
7283.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
7283.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
7284.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
這個時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
7284.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
7285.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
是不是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
7285.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
7287.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
全民的果實一起分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
7288.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
7290.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
本席聽到賴總統說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
7290.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
7292.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
明年農曆年後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
7292.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
7294.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
要普發現金萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
7294.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
7296.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
也聽到陳榮泰院長表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
7296.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
7297.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
明年啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
7297.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
7300.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
這個經濟果實全民共享 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
7301.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
7304.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
但是我們在探討這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
7304.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
7305.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
是不是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
7305.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
7307.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
我們能夠用更寬大的格局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
7309.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
7311.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
更寬大的格局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
7311.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
7314.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
來讓經濟的果實能夠分享給全民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
7314.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
7316.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
我想去年普發一萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
7317.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
7318.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
7318.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
7319.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
7319.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
7320.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
7320.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
7322.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
我們國家經濟的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
7322.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
7323.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
普發兩萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
7323.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
7324.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
應該不是問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
7325.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
7326.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
是不是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
7326.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
7327.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
左院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
7327.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
7328.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
普發兩萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
7328.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
7330.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
為什麼會再留子孫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
7330.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
7331.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
因為您不斷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
7331.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
7334.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
不斷的表示會再留子孫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
7334.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
7336.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
我們完全感受不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
7336.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
7338.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
經濟這樣的一個大爆發的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
7338.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
7340.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
為什麼會再留子孫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
7340.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
7342.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
為什麼不能發兩萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
7342.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
7343.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
請院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
7344.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
7347.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
國人的努力讓經濟發展得很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
7347.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
7350.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
所以政府跟國人跟產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
7350.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
7352.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
都必須投資更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
7352.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
7354.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
發展產業的相關預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
7354.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
7356.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
如果我們把所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
7356.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
7358.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
因為經濟發展而得來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
7358.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
7360.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
這些經濟上的紅利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
7360.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
7361.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
完全發放出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
7361.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
7363.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
成為一個公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
7363.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
7364.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
他如果沒有去做研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
7364.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
7365.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
沒有去做革新 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
7365.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
7366.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
沒有去做改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
7366.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
7368.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
沒有去添購設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
7368.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
7370.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
那他把錢都花出去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
7370.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
7371.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
那公司的規模 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
7371.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
7374.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
就跟現在不會比較大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
7374.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
7375.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
所以你剛剛說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
7375.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
7377.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
用更寬大的眼光 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
7377.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
7378.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
我倒希望委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
7378.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
7380.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
我們用更長遠的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
7380.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
7383.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
來看國家未來5年10年20年的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
7383.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
7384.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
所以院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
7384.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
7387.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
你還沒有回答本席的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
7387.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
7388.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
我已經回答了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
7388.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
7390.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
為什麼會再留子孫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
7390.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
7392.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
本席請你回答這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
7392.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
7393.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
因為我們把現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
7393.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
7395.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
因為AI紅利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
7395.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
7397.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
所創造出來的增加的稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
7397.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
7401.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
我們再用到更多的幫助弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
7401.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
7403.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
更多的經濟的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
7403.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
7406.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
更多的國內重要產業的支持上面去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
7406.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
7408.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
我們也做到其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
7408.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
7410.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
必要的一些防災的救災工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
7410.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
7412.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
那這就是國家必須要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
7412.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
7415.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
但已經把這些增加的稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
7415.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
7417.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
已經把它用在這個地方去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
7417.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
7418.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
如果要增加對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
7420.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
7421.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
全民再發放 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
7421.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
7423.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
那必須重新要舉債 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
7425.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
7426.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
這個院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
7427.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
7429.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
每一個公司的治理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
7429.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
7430.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
每一個企業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
7432.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
7434.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
台積電不斷的在成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
7435.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
7437.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
明年的業績甚至超過今年的一倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
7438.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
7441.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
所有世界一線的科技公司在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
7442.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
7445.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
整個EPS不斷的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
7446.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
7447.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
政府要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
7447.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
7451.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
就是盡量不要妨礙這些科技公司的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
7451.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
7453.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
盡量減少他們的約束 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
7453.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
7455.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
盡量讓他們全面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
7455.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
7458.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
自我的能夠快速的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
7458.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
7460.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
當然對一些剛起步的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
7460.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
7462.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
我們是要予以輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
7462.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
7464.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
但這不會一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
7464.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
7467.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
要用到兩千三百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
7468.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
7470.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
用於收為福利等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
7470.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
7473.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
當然對國家要有信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
7473.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
7474.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
卓院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
7474.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
7476.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
你對台灣太沒有信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
7476.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
7478.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
對台灣科技的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
7478.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
7480.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
自我創新 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
7480.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
7481.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
自我成長能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
7481.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
7484.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
也不是有機會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
7484.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
7486.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
再對你對AI的整體的認知 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
7487.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
7489.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
並不是有足夠的格局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
7491.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
7494.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
AI的發展才起步的這頭兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
7494.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
7497.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
這兩年未來不是僅此而止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
7499.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
7500.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
走 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
7501.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
7502.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
手持著手機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
7503.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
7504.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
到出公司的手機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
7505.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
7506.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
蘋果九四年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
7507.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
7509.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
2003年出公司的手機到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
7511.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
7513.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
23年的放心慰安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
7514.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
7516.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
AI的發展不是只有兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
7518.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
7519.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
7520.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
7521.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
7521.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
7522.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
AI的大爆發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
7522.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
7525.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
AI的整個為台灣創造的經濟產資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
7525.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
7527.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
遠遠超過你能想像的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
7529.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
7532.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
而今年超收的我們今年發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
7532.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
7534.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
明年超收的明年發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
7534.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
7537.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
那我們用什麼來加強各種科技的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
7537.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
7538.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
經濟的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
7538.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
7539.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
各種國家的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
7539.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
7540.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
你可以提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
7540.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
7542.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
我們已經提出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
7542.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
7544.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
我們在今年的全家預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
7544.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
7546.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
明年的總預算都提出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
7546.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
7548.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
市業格局要開放 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
7548.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
7550.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
市業格局要開放 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
7550.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
7552.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
去年你們提出總預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
7552.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
7555.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
就是沒有這個眼界跟格局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
7555.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
7556.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
7556.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
7557.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
今年稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
7557.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
7559.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
為什麼會成長到這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
7559.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
7560.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
超乎你們的想像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
7560.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
7562.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
就是你們的格局不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
7562.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
7565.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
我們看一下審計部的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
7565.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
7567.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
今年到月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
7568 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
7569 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
7569.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
7571.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
這個稅入的增加數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
7571.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
7572.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
4870億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
7572.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
7575.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
增加了4870億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
7575.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
7578.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
這是審計部的審查報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
7578.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
7580.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
我們再看看財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
7580.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
7581.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
7581.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
7583.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
我們的官網 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
7583.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
7584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
還有我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
7585.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
7586.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
一致8月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
7588.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
7589.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
將去年同期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
7589.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
7591.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
增加稅收6191億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
7593.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
7594.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
再過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
7594.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
7596.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
我們的證交稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
7597.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
7599.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
1到8月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
7600.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
7601.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
去年1到8月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
7601.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
7602.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
1670億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
7603.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
7605.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
今年1到8月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
7605.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
7606.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
4527億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
7606.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
7608.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
多了將近3000億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
7608.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
7610.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
甚至今年可能超收 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
7610.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
7611.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
3200億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
7612.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
7613.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
7613.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
7614.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
不要目光如豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
7616.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
7618.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
你們去年沒有看到今年的展望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
7619.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
7621.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
今年如果再看不到明年的展望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
7622.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
7624.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
院長真的要加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
7624.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
7626.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
北溪讓你看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
7626.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
7628.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
我們今年的經濟成長率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
7628.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
7630.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
自己看一看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
7630.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
7632.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
今年經濟成長率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
7633.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
7635.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
挑戰12% |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
7635.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
7637.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
謝謝委員肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
7637.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
7639.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
政府的穩定作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
7639.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
7640.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
這絕對不是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
7640.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
7642.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
單一政府三兩年能夠做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
7642.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
7643.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
都不是喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
7643.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
7644.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
不要在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
7645.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
7647.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
誇世界的大笑話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
7647.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
7649.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
整個AI科技產業的部署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
7650.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
7651.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
人才的培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
7651.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
7652.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
這沒有幾十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
7653.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
7654.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
打底做基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
7654.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
7656.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
兩年就可以這樣喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
7656.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
7658.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
我覺得院長不要夜郎自大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
7659.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
7660.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
7660.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
7661.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
科學要放遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
7662.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
7663.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
今天經濟成長率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
7663.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
7664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
挑戰12% |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
7664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
7666.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
這個時候不要把自己關在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
7667.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
7668.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
動裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
7668.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
7670.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
要看一看世界有多大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
7670.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
7671.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
不要以景觀天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
7671.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
7672.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
今年經濟成長率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
7672.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
7673.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
挑戰12% |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
7673.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
7675.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
明年國內的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
7675.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
7677.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
我們所有的科技人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
7677.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
7679.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
會有更蓬勃的一個發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
7679.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
7680.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
我在這裡啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
7680.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
7682.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
真的希望院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
7682.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
7685.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
浮發兩萬不會再有子孫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
7685.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
7686.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
國家的經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
7686.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
7687.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
因為台積電 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
7687.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
7688.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
因為五十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
7689.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
7692.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
請蔣經國先生高瞻遠矚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
7693.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
7695.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
我們做對了科技發展的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
7695.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
7698.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
讓台灣成為世界最驕傲的科技島 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
7698.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
7699.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
今天的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
7699.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
7701.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
當然每一任政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
7701.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
7702.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
都有共同努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
7702.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
7704.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
但是打底的基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
7704.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
7705.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
沒有幾十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
7705.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
7706.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
沒有辦法完成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
7706.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
7709.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
但是在五十年後的今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
7709.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
7710.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
經濟大爆發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
7710.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
7714.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
全面的在收割這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
7714.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
7715.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
豐收的果實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
7715.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
7716.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
7716.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
7717.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
當年蔣經國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
7717.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
7719.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
蔣經國院長或蔣經國總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
7719.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
7722.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
如果當年把錢都花光 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
7722.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
7724.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
大概也沒有今天台灣的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
7725.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
7726.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
7726.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
7727.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
當年如果把錢都花光 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
7727.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
7729.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
大概也沒有今天的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
7729.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
7730.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
我們剛剛講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
7730.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
7731.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
我就是要長遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
7731.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
7734.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
為未來五年十年二十年做規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
7734.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
7736.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
國家必須更多的研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
7736.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
7738.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
更多的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
7739.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
7740.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
所以院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
7740.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
7743.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
你看不到明年發展的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
7743.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
7745.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
真的蠻辛苦的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
7745.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
7747.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
北溪還提示給你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
7747.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
7749.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
你還看到今年的稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
7749.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
7751.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
你只知其一不知其二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
7751.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
7753.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
可以啊院長沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
7753.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
7755.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
你只知其一不知其二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
7755.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
7758.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
如果格局不夠的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
7758.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
7760.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
我再跟你分享一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
7760.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
7761.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
沒有關於格局不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
7762.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
7764.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
現在台灣人均GDP啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
7764.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
7766.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
四萬五千美金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
7766.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
7768.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
四萬五千美金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
7768.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
7769.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
我們看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
7769.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
7771.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
四萬五千美金是什麼概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
7771.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
7773.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
五口是家你的收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
7773.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
7775.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
七百萬以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
7776.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
7777.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
可能吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
7777.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
7779.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
再問問全國的基層的庶民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
7781.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
7783.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
現在台灣的人均GDP |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
7783.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
7784.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
四萬五千美金以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
7785.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
7788.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
五口是家每年有七百萬以上的收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
7789.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
7791.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
我想問問上面的這些老先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
7791.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
7792.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
這些長輩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
7793.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
7794.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
有沒有這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
7795.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
7797.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
事實發生在基層 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
7797.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
7798.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
因為科技業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
7799.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
7801.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
蓬勃的大爆發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
7801.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
7802.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
AI產業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
7803.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
7805.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
造成我們評估差距越來越大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
7805.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
7806.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
越來越懸殊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
7807.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
7809.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
我們要怎麼樣擴大內需 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
7809.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
7811.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
讓百工百業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
7811.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
7812.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
讓人民有感 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
7812.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
7814.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
這是我們該做的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
7814.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
7816.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
再看一下去年的觀光 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
7816.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
7817.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
入出國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
7817.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
7818.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
7818.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
7819.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
2024年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
7821.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
7822.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
2024年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
7822.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
7824.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
我們利差是將近九百萬人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
7824.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
7826.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
利消費七千一台幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
7827.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
7830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
去年超過一千萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
7831.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
7832.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
入出國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
7832.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
7833.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
進來國內的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
7833.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
7834.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
7834.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
7835.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
出國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
7835.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
7836.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
7837.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
7838.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
一千八百九十四萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
7838.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
7839.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
進到台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
7839.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
7840.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
八百五十七萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
7842.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
7844.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
利差一千多萬人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
7845.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
7847.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
這幾乎是亞洲最嚴重的就是台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
7848.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
7850.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
利消費七千一台幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
7850.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
7851.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
光七年上半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
7852.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
7854.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
我們利差人數就六百三十六萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
7854.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
7856.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
利消費四千兩百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
7856.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
7858.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
到今年下半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
7858.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
7860.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
今年可能利差 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
7860.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
7863.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
利差消費八千一台幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
7864.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
7865.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
八千一台幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
7865.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
7866.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
7866.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
7867.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
我們再看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
7868.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
7870.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
出國的利差人數可能到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
7870.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
7871.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
高達一千兩百五十萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
7872.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
7874.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
但是本席看你的追加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
7874.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
7876.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
卻沒有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
7876.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
7878.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
國內觀光旅遊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
7878.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
7880.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
產業振興 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
7880.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
7882.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
六千億洋洋灑灑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
7882.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
7883.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
追加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
7883.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
7884.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
我們國旅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
7884.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
7885.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
放水流 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
7887.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
7888.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
百工百業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
7888.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
7889.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
放水流 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
7889.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
7890.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
在明年的總預算裡面就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
7890.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
7891.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
高瞻遠矚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
7891.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
7893.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
在明年的總預算裡面就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
7893.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
7895.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
今年已經剩下三個月了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
7895.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
7896.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
已經看到這個數字了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
7896.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
7898.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
這是你們造成時間上壓迫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
7898.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
7900.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
病入膏肓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
7900.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
7902.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
但現在你才覺醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
7902.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
7903.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
7903.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
7904.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
有覺醒就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
7904.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
7906.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
本席讓你知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
7906.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
7907.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
本席讓你知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
7907.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
7908.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
再過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
7908.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
7909.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
再過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
7910.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
7911.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
再看一看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
7911.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
7912.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
歌曲放大一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
7913.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
7915.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
勞退基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
7916.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
7918.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
光今年一到八月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
7919.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
7921.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
大賺2.3兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
7921.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
7923.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
2.3兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
7924.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
7926.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
你連2300億給老百姓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
7926.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
7928.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
你都在拘謹在這個方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
7929.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
7931.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
光老退基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
7932.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
7934.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
前八月大賺2.3兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
7934.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
7936.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
那是可以拿來發現金的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
7937.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
7939.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
那個東西是要分給勞工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
7939.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
7940.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
7940.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
7941.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
你要一點常識 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
7941.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
7942.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
7942.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
7943.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
7943.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
7945.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
本席的意思是經濟的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
7945.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
7947.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
請你要張開眼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
7947.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
7949.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
再過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
7950.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
7951.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
本席很好奇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
7952.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
7954.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
為什麼退伏基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
7955.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
7956.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
退伏基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
7956.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
7958.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
對公教人員退伏基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
7958.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
7960.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
前八月比較保守 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
7960.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
7962.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
也賺了1400多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
7962.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
7963.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
也賺了1400多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
7963.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
7965.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
這個應不應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
7965.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
7967.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
也回饋饋這些公教人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
7967.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
7968.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
院長覺得呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
7970.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
7972.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
勞退跟退伏的基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
7972.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
7974.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
如何回饋給當初繳費的這些人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
7974.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
7976.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
參與的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
7976.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
7978.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
那當然有法律的依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
7978.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
7980.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
但不能把它拿來當全民普發現金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
7980.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
7982.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
本席在請教您的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
7982.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
7984.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
相同評論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
7984.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
7986.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
您說謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
7986.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
7988.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
你沒有表示意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
7988.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
7990.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
但是你說要依據法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
7990.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
7992.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
那我們就來修 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
7992.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
7994.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
謝謝院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
7994.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
7996.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
你提示了我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
7996.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
7998.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
我們就來修 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
7993.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
7995.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
再見一下院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
7995.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
7997.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
再見一下我們看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
7997.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
7999.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
勞退跟勞保 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
7999.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
8001.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
勞退跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
8001.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
8003.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
勞動基金跟有儲基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
8004.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
8006.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
8006.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
8008.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
有儲大賺了2.3兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
8009.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
8011.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
勞動基金大賺了2.3兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
8013.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
8015.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
所以變成9兆多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
8015.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
8017.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
8016.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
8018.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
由政基金原本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
8018.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
8020.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
跟勞動基金在去年都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
8020.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
8022.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
7兆多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
8022.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
8024.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
都是差不多7兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
8024.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
8026.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
現在由政基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
8026.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
8028.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
因為有太多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
8028.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
8030.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
綁手綁腳的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
8031.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
8033.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
不讓他們進入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
8033.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
8035.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
與國內經濟同步成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
8036.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
8038.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
所以由政基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
8038.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
8040.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
他賺的錢是要100% |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
8040.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
8042.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
回饋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
8041.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
8043.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
回饋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
8043.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
8045.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
他是中華民國政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
8044.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
8046.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
投資的公司化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
8046.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
8048.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
這些錢要回饋給 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
8048.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
8050.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
我們的行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
8049.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
8051.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
8051.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
8053.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
他今年真的很可惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
8053.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
8055.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
綁手綁腳沒有辦法投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
8055.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
8057.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
我們的經濟雛瘡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
8057.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
8059.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
所以本席建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
8059.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
8061.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
由政儲金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
8061.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
8063.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
不要這麼綁手綁腳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
8063.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
8065.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
要給他逐步開放 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
8065.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
8067.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
逐步開放 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
8067.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
8069.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
院長可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
8070.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
8072.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
由政儲金他的累積 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
8072.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
8074.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
他必須要有一個安全的存量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
8074.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
8076.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
所以他必須遵照他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
8076.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
8078.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
這個運用的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
8078.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
8080.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
跟標準來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
8080.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
8082.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
不是我們在這裡隨便 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
8082.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
8084.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
把它隨便拿來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
8084.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
8086.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
當作一個你的背景資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
8086.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
8088.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
在做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
8088.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
8090.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
因為你懵懂無知 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
8090.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
8092.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
所以本席現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
8092.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
8094.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
很清楚把數據告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
8094.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
8096.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
希望你不要繼續睡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
8096.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
8098.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
用一些錯誤的例子來印證你的講法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
8098.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
8100.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
請看一下資料好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
8100.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
8102.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
今天沒有看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
8102.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
8104.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
您剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
8104.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
8106.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
許問前一位委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
8106.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
8108.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
你都在努力加班 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
8108.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
8110.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
請看一下資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
8111.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
8113.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
那在這裡啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
8113.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
8115.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
本席啊 於眾欣賞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
8116.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
8118.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
不發兩萬塊不會再留子孫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
8118.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
8120.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
四千六百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
8121.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
8123.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
發放給全台灣人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
8124.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
8126.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
共享經濟成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
8126.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
8128.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
也在這麼大的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
8128.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
8130.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
貧富差距懸殊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
8130.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
8132.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
部下不斷上漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
8134.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
8136.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
讓人民能夠得到喘息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
8136.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
8138.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
8138.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
8140.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
兩萬塊四千六百億出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
8140.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
8142.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
用最低的成熟效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
8142.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
8144.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
五倍是兩兆三千億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
8144.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
8146.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
擴大內需 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
8146.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
8148.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
我們希望啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
8148.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
8150.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
院長能夠啊 聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
8150.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
8152.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
基層人民的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
8152.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
8154.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
基層人民的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
8154.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
8156.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
來再過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
8156.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
8158.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
我們再來看一看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
8158.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
8160.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
8160.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
8162.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
貨物稅啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
8162.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
8164.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
我們是已經四萬六千塊美金的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
8164.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
8166.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
四萬五千塊美金的人均GDP啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
8168.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
8170.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
但是北極真的很好奇啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
8171.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
8173.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
我們還有一流的人民啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
8173.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
8175.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
一流的科技人才 一流的經濟發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
8176.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
8178.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
但是啊 這個政府啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
8178.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
8180.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
不要是急流的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
8180.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
8182.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
日本國在1978年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
8182.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
8184.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
民國67年就停徵貨物稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
8184.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
8186.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
汽車的貨物稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
8186.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
8188.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
當時他們的GDP才九千兩百美元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
8189.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
8191.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
就停徵了汽車的貨物稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
8194.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
8196.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
我們到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
8196.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
8198.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
晚人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
8198.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
8200.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
晚人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
8200.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
8202.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
快要五十年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
8202.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
8204.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
我們還在徵貨物稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
8205.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
8207.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
一些基層庶民啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
8207.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
8209.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
用的這些東西啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
8209.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
8211.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
我們都還在把它當奢侈稅在刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
8213.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
8215.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
這個真是一笑世界大方啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
8216 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
8218 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
8217.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
8219.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
台灣中華民國政府需要用這種方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
8220.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
8222.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
對基層庶民啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
8223.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
8225.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
這樣子剝它起成皮啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
8225.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
8227.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
適合嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
8227.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
8229.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
要不要貨物稅重新檢討 請問院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
8229.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
8231.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
請部長說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
8231.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
8235.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
跟委員報告啊 貨物稅其實都持續在檢討當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
8235.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
8237.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
比如說像 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
8237.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
8239.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
含糖飲料的這些貨物稅課增 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
8239.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
8241.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
不含糖飲料都已經都減增 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
8241.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
8245.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
而且加電的部分都已經刪除課增貨物稅了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
8245.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
8247.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
另外在於有關汽車的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
8247.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
8249.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
我們也跟政策上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
8249.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
8251.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
含糖飲料跟貨物稅怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
8251.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
8253.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
對於電動車也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
8253.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
8255.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
對於有什麼差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
8255.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
8257.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
這個部分都持續在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
8257.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
8259.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
部長含糖飲料不含糖飲料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
8259.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
8261.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
8261.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
8263.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
這個部分基於健康的因素都有做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
8263.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
8265.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
人民的口味各有不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
8265.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
8267.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
你不知道跟他說含糖不含糖 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
8268.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
8270.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
你要科不一樣的稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
8270.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
8272.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
這邏輯在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
8272.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
8274.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
我想這個部分吼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
8274.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
8276.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
你不能說你不喝有糖的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
8276.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
8278.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
你就不知道人民喝有糖的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
8278.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
8280.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
要科稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
8279.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
8281.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
我覺得這真是笑話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
8281.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
8283.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
我們還用民國30年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
8283.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
8285.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
30年的邏輯觀念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
8285.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
8287.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
這時候人民還吃不起糖的觀念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
8287.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
8289.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
來看現在21世紀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
8289.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
8291.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
這是一個笑話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
8293.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
8295.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
所以沒有關係啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
8295.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
8297.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
被洗好已經盡善告之 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
8297.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
8299.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
你們再看一看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
8300.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
8302.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
人家1978年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
8302.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
8304.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
人均GDP才9200萬美金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
8304.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
8306.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
就停止了汽車貨物稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
8308.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
8310.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
我們對台灣政府沒有信心嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
8311.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
8313.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
8312.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
8314.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
保護了多少年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
8314.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
8316.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
保護了多少年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
8316.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
8318.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
有50歲的娃娃吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
8318.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
8320.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
還在強包裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
8322.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
8324.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
日本0到3% |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
8324.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
8326.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
韓國5% |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
8326.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
8328.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
我們還在25%到30% |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
8329.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
8331.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
小客車就是庶民嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
8331.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
8333.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
老百姓啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
8333.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
8335.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
今天等於你對全體基層的庶民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
8335.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
8337.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
去科這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
8337.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
8339.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
早就應該要飛掉的稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
8341.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
8343.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
院長發表你高瞻援助的心得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
8343.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
8345.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
來發表一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
8345.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
8347.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
貨物稅由來有至 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
8347.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
8349.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
從過去保護產業到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
8350.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
8354.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
整個社會的經濟的發展情勢在轉變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
8354.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
8356.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
那我們已經陸續剛剛部長所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
8356.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
8358.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
陸續幾項都已經在減免或是調降 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
8358.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
8360.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
那未來勢必 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
8360.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
8362.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
會再進行更大規模的稅制的減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
8364.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
8366.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
速度快一點可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
8366.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
8368.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
一個政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
8368.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
8370.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
希望是行動式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
8370.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
8372.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
有效能式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
8371.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
8373.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
台灣的科技世界第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
8373.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
8375.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
我們政府是第一級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
8375.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
8377.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
想一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
8377.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
8379.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
這個東西不要一笑大方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
8380.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
8382.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
50歲的娃娃還在牆包裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
8383.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
8385.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
8385.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
8387.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
對台灣政府沒有信心嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
8387.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
8389.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
我們的政府都沒有信心嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
8389.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
8391.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
再過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
8390.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
8392.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
8391.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
8393.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
我們再看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
8392.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
8394.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
8394.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
8396.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
機車這個更慘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
8397.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
8399.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
這更慘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
8398.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
8400.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
這真正是最基層最辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
8400.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
8402.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
我們基層的勞動者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
8405.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
8407.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
還在咳17% |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
8408.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
8410.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
我真的是為我們基層 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
8410.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
8412.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
廣大的勞工感到不值 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
8412.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
8414.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
日本已經不咳了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
8414.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
8416.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
韓國5%我們還在17% |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
8417.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
8419.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
這是對所有基層老百姓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
8419.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
8421.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
現在買機車還是奢侈品嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
8423.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
8425.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
這什麼邏輯啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
8426.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
8428.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
冷靜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
8428.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
8430.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
阿斯拉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
8429.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
8431.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
哇這不得了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
8431.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
8433.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
行政院是不是要先把冷氣關掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
8435.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
8437.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
你又聞的是奢侈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
8437.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
8439.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
要咳奢侈碎的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
8440.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
8442.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
當然我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
8442.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
8444.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
家電的貨物稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
8444.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
8446.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
我們都有減免跟補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
8446.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
8448.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
一場後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
8448.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
8450.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
我可以代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
8450.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
8452.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
不好意思啦院長有表達一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
8452.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
8454.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
今天早上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
8454.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
8456.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
朝野山長在血上囉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
8457.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
8459.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
說在後面的小房間很熱 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
8459.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
8461.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
因為立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
8461.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
8463.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
年久失修 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
8463.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
8465.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
結果跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
8465.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
8467.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
聽說跟行政院請不到錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
8467.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
8469.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
所以沒有關係我們持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
8469.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
8471.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
再熱烘烘的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
8470.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
8472.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
朝野學章希望氛圍最好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
8472.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
8474.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
大家要心靜自然良 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
8474.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
8476.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
我現在終於了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
8476.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
8478.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
行政院說不要吹冷氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
8478.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
8480.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
你們心靜自然良好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
8480.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
8482.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
再過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
8482.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
8484.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
因為立法院好像是要行政院動用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
8484.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
8486.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
二倍金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
8486.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
8488.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
二倍金的動用程序是被延誤的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
8488.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
8490.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
委員應該心裡都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
8490.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
8492.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
不要再怪我了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
8493.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
8495.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
這是對所有繼承百姓的劫掠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
8498.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
8500.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
人家說以前挾到羅賓漢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
8500.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
8502.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
要劫富濟貧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
8502.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
8504.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
再過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
8504.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
8506.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
除私機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
8506.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
8508.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
也是十五 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
8508.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
8510.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
了不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
8507.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
8509.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
輪胎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
8509.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
8511.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
這不得了連輪胎也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
8512.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
8514.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
輪胎啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
8513.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
8515.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
還要十到十五趴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
8515.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
8517.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
我真的是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
8517.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
8519.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
北習真的覺得我們這第幾流的行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
8520.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
8522.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
8521.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
8523.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
這國家的發展啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
8523.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
8525.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
這個是完完全全的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
8525.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
8527.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
沒有一點感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
8528.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
8530.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
早就該前逃了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
8530.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
8532.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
8532.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
8534.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
我們國民黨以及在野黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
8534.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
8536.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
我們一定會來協助我們全國人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
8536.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
8538.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
討一個公道回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
8538.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
8540.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
8540.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
8542.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
再過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
8542.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
8544.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
請問一下老農今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
8545.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
8547.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
我們看看我們看看老人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
8547.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
8549.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
來看這些老農看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
8551.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
8553.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
都在長林縣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
8553.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
8555.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
有的把地落進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
8555.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
8557.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
沒敲過兩聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
8557.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
8559.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
絕對超過三四成以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
8559.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
8561.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
我們這個產區看到的狀態預估可能影響到明年的一月份 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
8561.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
8563.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
這有種的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
8563.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
8565.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
都爛掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
8565.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
8567.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
現在就是說農夫都差不多都休養了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
8567.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
8569.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
現在只關地區的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
8569.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
8571.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
差不多都燒空心菜而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
8571.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
8573.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
其他的葉菜類的話都沒有進來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
8573.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
8575.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
應該也沒有辦法產收了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
8579.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
8581.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
8581.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
8583.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
本期在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
8582.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
8584.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
8583.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
8585.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
跟院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
8585.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
8587.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
請您支持一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
8588.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
8590.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
我們繼承最辛苦的農民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
8592.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
8594.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
看天吃飯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
8594.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
8596.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
當地球聲音現象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
8598.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
8600.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
這把這把樣的熱屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
8602.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
8604.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
甚至連秋老虎現在秋天都熱到不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
8605.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
8607.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
農民啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
8608.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
8610.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
農民啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
8610.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
8612.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
農民啊都還在田裡啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
8613.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
8615.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
院長眼睛張開一點看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
8616.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
8618.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
國家經濟大爆發 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
8618.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
8620.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
對農民的照顧是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
8622.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
8624.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
一個風災已災 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
8626.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
8628.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
我們的救助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
8628.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
8630.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
救助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
8629.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
8631.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
良辰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
8631.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
8633.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
三層 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
8632.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
8634.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
四層五層就不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
8636.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
8638.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
不一些你當時你的成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
8640.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
8642.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
你沒有受過他的勞動力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
8643.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
8645.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
你沒有上過他家有幾口要吃飯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
8647.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
8649.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
我們要怎麼照顧農民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
8651.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
8653.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
我們全力來照顧農民院長可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
8654 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
8658 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
那我們就可以檢討未來如果要加成補助的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
8658 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
8660 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
那相關的預算要重新檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
8660 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
8662 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
8661.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
8663.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
8662.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
8666.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
北溪剛剛前面做了很多的時間給院長鋪陳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
8667.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
8669.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
請把格局放開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
8669.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
8671.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
看看世界有多大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
8671.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
8673.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
全世界都要同為愛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
8674.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
8676.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
這個產業要持續多少年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
8677.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
8679.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
連美國總統都要出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
8679.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
8681.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
組美國的國家隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
8681.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
8683.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
8682.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
8684.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
8684.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
8686.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
最辛苦的農民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
8686.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
8688.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
我們要給他最多最多的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
8688.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
8690.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
所以希望追加預算會通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
8690.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
8692.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
我們對老農津貼趕快可以加成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
8692.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
8694.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
8694.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
8696.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
可以喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
8695.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
8697.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
本期再請你看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
8699.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
8701.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
8701.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
8703.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
這些農民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
8704.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
8706.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
我們現在從 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
8706.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
8708.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
2016年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
8708.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
8710.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
7000多塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
8709.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
8711.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
8711.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
8713.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
要調到1萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
8714.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
8716.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
10年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
8716.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
8718.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
過去老農年金一個月7000多塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
8718.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
8720.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
現在聽說行政院的追加是要到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
8722.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
8724.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
要到1萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
8724.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
8726.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
北溪認為奇奇以為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
8727.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
8729.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
真的不合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
8729.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
8731.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
真的不合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
8731.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
8733.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
2016年我們人均的GDP是2萬3千塊美金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
8733.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
8735.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
老農今天7255塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
8737.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
8739.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
現在我們4萬5千332塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
8739.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
8741.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
人均GDP |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
8742.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
8744.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
老農今天至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
8744.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
8746.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
至少應該發1萬5千 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
8746.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
8748.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
根據CPI調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
8748.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
8750.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
至少應該要發到1萬5千 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
8750.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
8752.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
我們已經調了23.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
8752.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
8754.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
而且是根據CPI |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
8754.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
8756.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
來調整逐年來檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
8756.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
8758.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
達到一定的陳述之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
8758.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
8760.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
就必須調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
8760.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
8762.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
這次的調整是23.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
8762.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
8764.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
過去也沒有這麼高吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
8764.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
8766.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
你不要緊張嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
8765.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
8767.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
本期是告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
8767.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
8769.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
精細核細 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
8769.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
8771.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
吃東西要吃東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
8771.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
8773.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
對不對 2016年人均GDP是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
8774.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
8776.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
現在人均GDP是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
8777.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
8779.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
老農有感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
8779.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
8781.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
8781.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
8783.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
給他們的關心跟慰問嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
8784.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
8786.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
而且這10年本新聞都修改 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
8786.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
8788.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
這10年就是民進黨執政 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
8789.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
8791.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
所以謝謝委員肯定這10年來民進黨的執政 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
8791.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
8793.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
謝謝啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
8793.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
8795.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
所以老農今天必須要提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
8795.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
8797.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
所以我們調整啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
8797.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
8799.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
趕快追加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
8799.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
8801.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
所以應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
8801.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
8803.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
合乎比例原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
8803.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
8805.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
我們在CPI的數據來調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
8805.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
8807.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
因為科技大爆發 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
8807.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
8809.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
人均GDP漲了一倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
8809.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
8811.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
我們老農今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
8810.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
8812.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
這不是施捨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
8812.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
8814.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
從來不是施捨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
8814.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
8816.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
我們從補助的觀念到支持的觀念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
8816.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
8818.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
我們從支持的觀念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
8818.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
8820.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
來支持二屆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
8820.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
8822.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
您最愛講的抗中保台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
8822.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
8824.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
我們看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
8825.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
8827.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
國家量十四舉例是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
8828.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
8830.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
我們現在的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
8830.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
8832.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
量十四舉例才30% |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
8833.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
8835.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
才30% |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
8835.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
8837.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
台灣的量十四舉例才30% |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
8839.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
8841.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
30.7% |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
8841.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
8843.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
8844.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
8846.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
69.3% |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
8848.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
8850.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
69.3% |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
8850.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
8852.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
這真的是國安問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
8853.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
8855.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
這真的是國安問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
8855.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
8857.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
請部長跟你講比較精確的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
8857.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
8859.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
今天是跟你完全不聽我們的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
8859.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
8861.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
完全不聽我們的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
8861.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
8863.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
8863.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
8865.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
在誤導國人的認知 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
8865.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
8867.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
這個就是所謂的認知作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
8867.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
8869.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
北溪尊重你的言論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
8869.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
8871.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
但是北溪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
8871.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
8873.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
你沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
8873.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
8875.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
部長要答覆你不跟他部長答啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
8875.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
8877.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
你哪有尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
8877.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
8879.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
那我們就是很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
8876.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
8878.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
我們就是很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
8878.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
8880.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
8880.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
8882.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
好好照顧農民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
8882.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
8884.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
給予合理的國家成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
8884.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
8886.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
必須給他們合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
8886.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
8888.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
報告對農民的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
8888.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
8890.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
我們從農民的福利制度到基礎建設 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
8890.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
8892.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
到後續的產業提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
8892.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
8894.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
我們都有在先決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
8894.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
8896.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
蘇花恩我們看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
8897.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
8899.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
這個院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
8898.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
8900.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
我蠻好奇的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
8900.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
8902.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
您有一段時間會發布一些東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
8904.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
8906.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
發布完以後就一場誤會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
8906.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
8908.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
就一場誤會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
8908.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
8910.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
我們講一講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
8909.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
8911.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
這個數字我在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
8911.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
8913.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
本席已經跟你討論過無數次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
8913.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
8915.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
我們再講一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
8916.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
8918.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
2008年國民黨執政 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
8918.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
8920.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
5月20號執政 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
8920.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
8922.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
兩年七個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
8922.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
8924.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
包括整個路線的探勘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
8926.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
8928.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
游泳的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
8928.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
8930.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
延時的判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
8930.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
8932.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
8931.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
8933.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
兩年七個月動工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
8934.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
8936.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
2016年5月20號民進黨上台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
8936.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
8938.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
現在十年四個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
8938.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
8940.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
沒有動工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
8940.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
8942.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
2019年11月1號宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
8943.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
8945.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
要做蘇花恩到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
8947.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
8949.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
也六年多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
8949.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
8951.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
將近七年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
8951.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
8953.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
還沒有動工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
8953.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
8955.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
本席了解啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
8956.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
8958.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
2028年1月總統選舉前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
8958.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
8960.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
然後再來搞一個動工儀式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
8961.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
8963.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
這個大概就你們的策略了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
8963.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
8965.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
本席了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
8965.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
8967.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
8967.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
8969.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
人命無價 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
8969.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
8971.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
委員你又錯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
8971.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
8973.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
我們時間已經定了你都不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
8973.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
8975.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
你顯然不關心地方啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
8974.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
8976.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
我不關心地方我只能告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
8976.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
8978.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
你又連十一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
8977.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
8979.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
那你知道蘇花恩什麼時候要發包嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
8979.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
8981.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
那你告訴大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
8981.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
8983.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
發包跟動工是兩件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
8983.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
8985.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
沒有發包什麼動工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
8985.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
8987.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
你當行政院長發包跟動工都不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
8988.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
8990.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
發包是你要告訴本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
8990.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
8992.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
你不要再敲桌子沒有發包什麼動工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
8992.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
8994.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
發包了七年你還有臉告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
8994.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
8996.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
問我什麼時候發包 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
8996.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
8998.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
發包全在你手上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
8998.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
9000.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
什麼時候發包你決定的不是我決定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
9001.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
9003.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
你來問部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
9003.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
9005.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
你不要用這種耍賴的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
9005.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
9007.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
發包全在行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
9007.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
9009.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
怎麼是問我什麼時候發包 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
9009.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
9011.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
那可以啊把政權交給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
9011.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
9013.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
我馬上就發包馬上就動工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
9013.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
9015.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
你多努力吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
9015.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
9017.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
你多努力啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
9017.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
9019.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
9019.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
9023.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
人民很快就會把最新的政府帶過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
9023.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
9025.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
今年我們就會發包 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
9025.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
9027.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
不要政治操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
9029.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
9031.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
把交通管還給交通把人民的還給人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
9032.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
9034.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
該 普發兩萬普發兩萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
9034.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
9036.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
把行政權的還給行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
9036.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
9038.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
9038.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
9040.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
謝謝主任長相關部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
9040.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
9042.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
謝謝大家深呼吸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
9042.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
9044.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
深呼吸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
9045.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
9047.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
我們現在休息10分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
9047.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
9049.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
休息10分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
9049.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
9051.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
然後非常感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
9051.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
9053.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
莊瑞璇委員陳冠廷委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
9053.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
9055.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
陳永康委員陳金威委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
9055.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
9057.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
林茜淇委員陪同我們一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
9057.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
9059.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
參與上半場的走質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
9059.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
9061.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
休息10分鐘之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
9061.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
9063.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
我們繼續來進行質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
9063.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
9065.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
謝謝現在休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
9670.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
9672.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
好不好意思我們現在來繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
9672.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
9674.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
接下來我們請莊瑞璇委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
9674.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
9676.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
徐宇禎委員請準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
9683.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
9685.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
謝謝院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
9685.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
9687.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
有請我們行政院卓院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
9687.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
9689.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
麻煩財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
9689.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
9691.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
財政部長被選了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
9692.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
9694.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
9696.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
9698.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
財政部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
9708.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
9710.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
莊委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
9710.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
9712.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
院長辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
9712.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
9714.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
我想延續剛剛中國國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
9714.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
9716.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
附跟的總召 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
9716.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
9718.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
9718.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
9720.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
貨物稅對於行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
9720.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
9722.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
這樣嚴厲的一個指責 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
9722.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
9724.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
其實話真的要是講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
9724.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
9726.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
我們在去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
9726.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
9728.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
在八月份 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
9728.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
9730.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
其實在民生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
9730.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
9732.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
五大民生項目的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
9732.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
9734.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
行政院其實做了很多決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
9734.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
9736.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
從今年的2026年的1月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
9738.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
9740.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
其實有很多民生五大項目裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
9740.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
9742.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
很多貨物稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
9742.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
9744.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
他是免徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
9744.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
9746.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
而且是關鍵的原物料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
9746.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
9748.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
那個還是減半了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
9748.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
9750.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
我想在這個地方要提出來就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
9750.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
9752.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
跟全世界各個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
9752.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
9754.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
來做比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
9754.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
9756.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
台灣最大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
9756.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
9758.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
我們如果說要跟日本跟韓國一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
9758.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
9760.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
把所有的貨物稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
9760.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
9762.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
把奢侈稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
9762.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
9764.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
這樣的一個概念把它拿開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
9764.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
9766.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
把它做一個廢除的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
9766.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
9768.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
這個稅制它是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
9768.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
9770.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
大幅度的去邁進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
9771.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
9773.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
在國際上談判的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
9773.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
9775.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
也不會被說我們這個貨物稅的存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
9775.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
9781.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
自己去設置一個貿易的障礙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
9781.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
9783.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
但是本級在這個地方其實也要指出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
9783.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
9787.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
這個狀況其實最主要是我們台灣的稅賦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
9787.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
9789.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
綜合所得稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
9789.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
9791.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
還有我們的營業稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
9791.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
9793.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
5% |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
9792.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
9794.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
跟全世界各國來比較的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
9794.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
9796.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
我們又偏低 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
9796.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
9798.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
我們的營業稅5% |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
9799.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
9801.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
日本韓國10% |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
9801.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
9803.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
歐盟20% |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
9803.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
9805.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
我為什麼提出這個概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
9805.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
9807.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
也不是說把行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
9807.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
9809.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
跟你們瞎挺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
9809.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
9811.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
我認為這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
9811.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
9813.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
朝野之間有很大的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
9813.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
9815.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
看法的落差存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
9815.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
9817.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
在野黨的角色是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
9817.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
9819.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
好康的都給你建議了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
9819.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
9821.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
這個貨物稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
9821.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
9823.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
我如果是老百姓我也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
9823.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
9825.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
我如果是廠商我也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
9825.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
9827.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
你貨物稅全部都給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
9827.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
9829.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
但是在這個政府你整體在執政的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
9829.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
9831.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
你如果說又把這個貨物稅全面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
9831.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
9833.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
你去把它給廢除掉的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
9833.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
9835.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
9834.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
9836.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
稅基啊你可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
9836.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
9838.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
不對這樣一年算多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
9838.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
9840.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
9840.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
9842.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
貨物稅大概一年收取大概是1500億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
9842.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
9846.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
那其中10%是納入中央統籌分配稅款給地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
9846.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
9848.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
那也如同委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
9848.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
9850.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
在貨物稅的部分其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
9850.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
9852.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
它現在已經跟奢侈是沒有關聯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
9852.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
9854.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
事實上它是跟相關的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
9854.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
9856.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
去結合包含有環保的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
9856.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
9858.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
包含有健康的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
9858.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
9860.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
那因此呢在去年秋日 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
9860.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
9862.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
就今年開始呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
9862.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
9864.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
不管是家電的像電視機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
9864.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
9866.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
錄影機電商機等等都已經不再 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
9866.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
9868.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
課徵貨物稅了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
9868.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
9872.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
那對於節能減碳的像三種冷氣機或廚師機冰箱 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
9872.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
9874.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
我們都給 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
9874.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
9876.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
退稅2000塊的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
9876.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
9878.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
就高效評的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
9878.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
9880.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
因為我們希望用這種節能減碳的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
9880.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
9882.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
一個電器來鼓勵民眾買 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
9882.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
9884.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
所以在貨物稅的部分是減增2000塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
9884.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
9886.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
那在電動車跟機車的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
9886.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
9888.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
貨物稅也已經都沒有再增收了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
9888.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
9890.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
那另外就是對於像那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
9890.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
9892.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
機車的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
9892.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
9894.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
也都給減增 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
9894.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
9896.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
所以我想這個幾乎都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
9896.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
9898.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
持續的一些做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
9898.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
9900.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
本席的意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
9900.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
9902.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
貨員講了一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
9902.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
9904.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
他也不是全錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
9904.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
9906.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
他是只講了一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
9906.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
9908.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
但問題你全部去廢除的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
9908.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
9910.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
你政府的因應是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
9910.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
9912.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
你政府的因應的話你這個整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
9912.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
9914.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
營業稅就是你這個消費你必定要去提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
9914.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
9916.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
不然你一年的稅金你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
9916.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
9918.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
少了1500億嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
9918.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
9920.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
那你營業稅提高你中和首都稅你必須要去提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
9920.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
9922.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
你造成的是什麼尤其是營業稅提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
9922.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
9924.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
第一個物價一定漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
9924.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
9926.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
你對於現在你政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
9926.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
9928.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
對於各方面社福也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
9928.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
9930.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
勞退的部分你的補補也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
9930.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
9932.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
或者說整個國防各方面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
9932.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
9934.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
一個建設也好你一定會去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
9934.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
9936.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
減嘛所以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
9936.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
9938.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
當在野黨抓住一個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
9938.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
9940.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
在講的時候很簡單你說把它廢除掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
9940.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
9942.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
未必錯喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
9942.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
9944.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
但問題是廢除掉你政府的因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
9944.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
9946.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
你這個就要去講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
9946.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
9948.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
剛才沒講了所以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
9948.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
9950.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
這個問題真的什麼都要講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
9950.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
9952.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
部長請回我接下來要請教卓院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
9955.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
9957.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
我跟妳學生這樣喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
9957.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
9959.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
然後超過30年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
9958.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
9960.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
我常常去想啊立法院啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
9960.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
9962.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
做成一個決議啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
9962.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
9964.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
不是決議喔我們預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
9964.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
9966.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
把你的薪水給刪除掉以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
9968.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
9970.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
我第一個想到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
9970.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
9972.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
這不是引起多大的一個衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
9972.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
9974.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
這個喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
9973.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
9975.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
今天假設立法院喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
9976.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
9978.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
是把韓院長的薪水刪除掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
9978.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
9980.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
沒完沒了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
9980.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
9982.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
因為韓院長我對他的個性的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
9984.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
9986.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
他差不多一年喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
9986.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
9988.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
願不願意跟你開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
9987.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
9989.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
你整個國家你全部都是延宕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
9989.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
9991.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
這第一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
9991.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
9993.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
第二個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
9993.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
9995.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
第二個問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
9994.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
9996.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
韓院長他老婆跟卓院長老婆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
9996.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
9998.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
兩個去收下午茶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
9999.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
10001.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
香味冷清 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
10001.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
10003.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
你們這樣什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
10003.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
10005.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
他叫你們兩個在那邊消費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
10005.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
10007.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
我覺得很浪費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
10007.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
10009.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
你做到現在你都算多大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
10009.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
10011.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
你薪水沒辦法拿回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
10011.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
10013.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
老婆跟老婆在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
10013.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
10015.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
你們人一般多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
10015.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
10017.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
韓院長他們老婆出來說我們人37萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
10016.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
10018.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
所以韓院長你沒有出來公關安定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
10018.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
10020.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
你們怎麼開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
10020.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
10022.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
人家一定說這做到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
10022.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
10024.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
一定會在沒路了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
10024.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
10026.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
我們一天薪水都沒拿回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
10026.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
10028.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
我的意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
10028.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
10030.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
一個國家分官設職 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
10030.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
10032.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
公務人員法定待遇該多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
10032.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
10034.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
他就應該就是要多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
10037.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
10039.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
立法院做成一個決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
10039.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
10041.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
可以把國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
10041.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
10043.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
我們可以把國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
10043.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
10045.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
任何的一個政策的施行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
10045.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
10047.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
或者新 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
10047.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
10049.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
你如果說今天是新興資本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
10049.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
10051.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
或者說新興計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
10051.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
10053.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
你要去做一個推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
10053.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
10055.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
立法院站在一個監督單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
10055.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
10057.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
那本來就有錢來做一個決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
10057.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
10059.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
但是其他你按照預算法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
10059.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
10061.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
50%的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
10061.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
10063.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
立法院我們給你延宕350一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
10063.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
10065.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
還要晚上1個月出獄 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
10064.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
10066.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
10066.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
10068.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
還沒通過以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
10068.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
10070.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
左翼龍太院長的薪水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
10069.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
10071.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
還沒通過延宕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
10071.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
10072.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
反而你有薪水可以領 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
10073.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
10075.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
做成決議以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
10075.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
10077.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
你說沒薪水你回去你老婆不願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
10077.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
10079.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
請你讓你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
10078.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
10080.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
10081 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
10083 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
是沒有那麼嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
10083 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
10085 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
只是多做一些加市而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
10085.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
10087.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
多做一些加市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
10087.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
10089.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
10089.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
10091.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
其實你這個你回家跟你老婆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
10091.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
10093.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
怎麼交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
10093.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
10095.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
那是你個人要去交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
10095.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
10097.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
但問題是你涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
10097.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
10099.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
整個國家的一個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
10099.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
10101.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
你院長該多少就是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
10101.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
10103.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
你這個官職 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
10103.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
10105.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
部長該多少就是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
10105.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
10107.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
這個預算法54條第三項裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
10107.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
10109.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
那個是法定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
10109.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
10111.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
法定義務的一個支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
10111.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
10113.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
你這邊怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
10113.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
10115.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
副院長來來來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
10115.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
10117.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
先暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
10119.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
10121.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
任市長請備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
10125.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
10127.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
副院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
10126.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
10127.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
你們這不講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
10127.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
10128.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
你們海裡主任長回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
10128.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
10130.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
老婆不願意這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
10131.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
10133.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
10133.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
10137.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
這是我們國家的法定機關的法定職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
10137.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
10139.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
他的待遇都是法定經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
10140.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
10142.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
可以依法可以領取 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
10143.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
10145.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
所以也就是說政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
10145.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
10147.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
因為所有公務員也都是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
10147.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
10149.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
你政策的推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
10149.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
10151.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
你確實立法院監督機關你確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
10151.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
10153.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
講白話就是要看立法院的臉色 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
10153.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
10155.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
但問題是公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
10155.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
10157.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
你的薪資還要再看立法院的臉色 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
10157.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
10159.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
這哪通你覺得這樣合理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
10159.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
10161.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
來 部任市長請你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
10163.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
10165.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
依法可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
10165.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
10167.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
院長的薪資是可以領取 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
10167.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
10169.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
10169.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
10171.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
卓院長要怎麼代母交代他們的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
10171.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
10173.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
輸他們的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
10173.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
10175.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
但是涉及到國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
10175.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
10177.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
尤其涉及到預算法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
10177.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
10179.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
54條法定義務的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
10179.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
10181.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
這個國家要向人民講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
10181.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
10183.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
制度是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
10183.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
10185.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
就是可以依法領取 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
10185.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
10187.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
依法進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
10187.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
10189.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
卓院長不要跟他拼了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
10189.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
10191.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
你時間到你本地就要給人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
10191.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
10193.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
他的薪水不是我發的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
10193.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
10195.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
薪水不是你發的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
10195.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
10197.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
應該下個月就有薪水了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
10197.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
10199.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
兩件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
10199.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
10201.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
因為薪水沒有撥付下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
10201.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
10203.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
欠保費也沒有的繳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
10203.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
10209.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
很多的公務員必要的退休的提撥也沒有辦法做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
10209.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
10211.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
所以這個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
10212.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
10214.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
九月份是整個空白在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
10214.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
10216.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
但是我的想法是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
10216.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
10218.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
我不會讓這個例子開一個這樣的惡例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
10218.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
10220.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
這會影響到其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
10220.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
10222.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
中央地方的行政部門的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
10222.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
10224.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
所以這個例子不能開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
10224.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
10226.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
但是我這個月沒有領 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
10226.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
10228.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
我是尊重立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
10228.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
10230.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
但是我尊重立法院我更尊重法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
10230.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
10232.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
是這樣才對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
10232.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
10234.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
這樣的一個態度才對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
10234.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
10236.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
不然開這樣的一個惡例的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
10236.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
10238.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
我覺得就沒完沒了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
10238.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
10240.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
尤其 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
10240.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
10242.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
所有人輸掉都不敢找你吃飯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
10242.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
10244.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
找你吃飯你也沒錢了大家也不敢請你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
10244.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
10246.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
那個副院長請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
10246.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
10248.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
另外我請交通部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
10248.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
10250.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
麻煩請交通部長備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
10263.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
10265.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
10265.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
10270.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
最近美國美制車輛零關稅議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
10270.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
10272.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
在引起討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
10272.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
10274.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
本席這個地方要來就教就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
10274.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
10276.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
美國車要進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
10276.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
10277.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
零關稅進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
10277.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
10279.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
站在老百姓的立場他一定很開心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
10279.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
10281.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
多好笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
10281.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
10283.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
但問題除了便宜之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
10283.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
10285.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
本席在這個地方有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
10285.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
10287.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
比較嚴肅的議題要來請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
10287.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
10289.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
美國車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
10289.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
10291.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
後方的一個方向燈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
10291.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
10293.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
車尾燈這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
10295.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
10297.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
後面一半就Amber |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
10297.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
10299.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
就是那個橙色 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
10299.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
10301.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
就是說我們一般在開車的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
10301.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
10303.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
我們如果車尾燈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
10303.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
10305.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
然後煞車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
10305.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
10307.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
如果要右轉的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
10307.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
10309.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
我們台灣這裡就差不多橙色 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
10309.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
10311.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
美國車進來之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
10311.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
10313.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
這很麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
10313.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
10315.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
現在就是說你車要右轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
10315.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
10317.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
還是要左轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
10317.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
10319.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
尤其是在路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
10319.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
10321.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
在台灣這個問題就很嚴肅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
10321.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
10323.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
我們機車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
10323.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
10325.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
汽車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
10324.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
10326.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
我們沒有分流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
10326.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
10328.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
都跟著一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
10328.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
10330.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
你剛好暗示 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
10330.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
10332.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
你剛好下雨天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
10332.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
10334.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
那個燈光你確實你很難去判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
10334.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
10336.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
他到底要煞車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
10336.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
10338.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
或者到底要右轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
10338.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
10340.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
按照美國你看從2008 2009 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
10340.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
10342.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
他們去做出來的一個研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
10342.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
10344.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
就是說如果你右方要去方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
10344.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
10346.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
你這個方向燈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
10346.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
10348.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
你如果是用橙黃色的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
10348.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
10350.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
那個兩部車的照視率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
10350.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
10352.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
會降低到5% |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
10352.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
10354.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
降低到5% |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
10354.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
10356.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
你從2008 2009 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
10356.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
10358.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
美國是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
10358.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
10360.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
在日本在韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
10360.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
10362.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
甚至在歐盟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
10362.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
10364.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
他們的方向燈你只要轉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
10364.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
10366.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
就不是什麼紅燈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
10366.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
10368.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
跟台灣不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
10368.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
10370.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
有沒有可能因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
10370.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
10372.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
這個整個汽車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
10372.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
10374.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
零關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
10374.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
10376.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
汽車便宜以後我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
10376.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
10378.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
美國車美國規格的車輛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
10378.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
10380.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
進口到台灣一定會更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
10380.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
10382.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
那更多以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
10382.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
10384.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
造成整個用路人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
10384.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
10386.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
開車的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
10385.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
10387.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
你對於他來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
10387.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
10389.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
甚至於對於整個交通安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
10389.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
10391.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
都是一大挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
10391.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
10393.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
我不知道部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
10393.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
10395.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
我們有新的一個看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
10397.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
10399.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
我們應該大國際上來做一個接軌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
10399.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
10401.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
來做一個接軌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
10401.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
10403.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
你說其他先進的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
10403.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
10405.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
因應這個整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
10405.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
10407.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
台灣的整個用路的一個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
10407.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
10409.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
那這一些來對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
10409.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
10411.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
如果說右轉燈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
10413.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
10415.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
我們台灣現在就有一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
10415.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
10417.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
我們不要像美國車進來後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
10417.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
10419.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
全部都給他紅色 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
10420.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
10422.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
這樣我們法規上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
10422.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
10424.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
去做一個調和的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
10424.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
10426.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
對於整個台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
10426.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
10428.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
在用路對駕駛人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
10428.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
10430.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
在開車的安全上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
10430.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
10432.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
有很大的一個提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
10432.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
10434.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
我不曉得我們交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
10434.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
10436.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
對於這方面法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
10436.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
10438.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
或者因應整個汽車的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
10438.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
10440.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
零關稅這樣造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
10440.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
10442.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
交通安全的一個衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
10442.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
10444.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
有沒有因應之道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
10443.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
10445.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
像委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
10445.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
10447.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
以現況來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
10447.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
10449.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
我們是比較符合UNEC的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
10449.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
10451.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
10451.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
10453.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
澳洲跟日本跟歐洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
10453.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
10455.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
他們的系統基本上是以橘黃燈為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
10455.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
10457.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
那台灣因為我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
10457.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
10459.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
還有一些美制車會進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
10459.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
10461.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
所以我們是橘黃燈以及紅燈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
10461.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
10463.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
其實我們都是接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
10463.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
10465.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
現在美國的現況也大概是這個樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
10465.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
10467.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
所以美國大概比例上接近一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
10467.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
10469.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
有一些是紅燈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
10469.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
10471.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
那有一些是橘黃燈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
10471.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
10473.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
我剛剛講的歐洲日本跟澳洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
10473.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
10475.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
他們都是以橘黃燈為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
10475.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
10477.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
那現在台灣有個問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
10477.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
10479.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
我們的主要的法規依循 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
10479.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
10481.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
大部分都是依照UNEC |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
10481.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
10483.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
那也就是說比較接近 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
10483.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
10485.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
歐洲跟日本的系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
10485.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
10487.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
但現在因為美國車要進來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
10487.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
10489.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
確實我們就會面臨到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
10489.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
10491.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
可能會有比較大的比例的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
10491.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
10493.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
紅色的轉彎燈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
10493.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
10495.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
10495.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
10497.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
紅色燈會比較多一些進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
10497.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
10499.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
那我們目前也在看看說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
10499.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
10501.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
這個部分造成台灣的交通的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
10501.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
10503.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
因為台灣的交通模式其實跟美國不一定一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
10503.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
10505.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
因為我們現在混合車流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
10505.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
10507.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
其實相對比較複雜一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
10507.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
10509.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
所以剛剛委員所提醒的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
10509.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
10511.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
數據上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
10511.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
10513.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
車禍比例上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
10513.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
10515.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
我覺得台灣必須要先再做一套 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
10515.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
10517.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
那委員現在提醒說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
10517.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
10519.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
未來法規上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
10519.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
10521.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
要不要再做更強制性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
10521.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
10523.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
目前我們是比較開放一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
10523.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
10525.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
就是說橘黃燈可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
10525.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
10527.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
紅燈也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
10527.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
10529.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
我們看造勢的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
10529.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
10531.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
如果有需要調整我們都會滾動來檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
10531.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
10533.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
所以部長本席在這個地方具體要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
10533.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
10535.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
10535.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
10537.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
整個汽車的零關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
10537.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
10539.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
帶來交通方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
10539.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
10541.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
這樣的一個衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
10541.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
10543.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
畢竟美國地方大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
10543.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
10545.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
美國用車用路的情況跟台灣不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
10545.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
10547.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
那是不是我們加速去原意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
10547.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
10549.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
10549.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
10551.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
應該調整就調整啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
10551.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
10553.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
院長請暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
10553.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
10555.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
勞動部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
10555.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
10557.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
勞動部長被選 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
10569.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
10571.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
院長部長我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
10571.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
10573.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
最後一分鐘的時間要來請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
10573.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
10575.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
就是說老百姓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
10575.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
10577.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
都是斤斤計較 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
10577.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
10579.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
以前我小時候還沒讀書的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
10579.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
10581.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
一碗麵兩塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
10581.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
10583.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
現在一碗麵兩碗麵一碗都要50塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
10584.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
10586.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
生活開銷其實都是變大了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
10586.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
10588.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
你看1989年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
10590.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
10592.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
無殼蝸牛運動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
10592.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
10594.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
就夜宿中下東路 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
10594.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
10596.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
那參加得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
10596.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
10598.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
那已經蝸牛現在做阿公了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
10596.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
10598.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
他的孫子現在也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
10598.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
10600.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
很多人還是沒有殼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
10600.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
10602.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
我們在2005年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
10602.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
10604.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
勞工新制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
10604.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
10606.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
去做一個改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
10606.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
10608.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
以現在的雇主提撥 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
10608.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
10610.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
6% |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
10610.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
10612.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
本席認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
10612.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
10614.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
經過這樣幾十年過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
10614.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
10616.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
二十年過去以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
10616.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
10618.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
有沒有可能再去提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
10618.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
10620.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
連審計部都認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
10621.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
10623.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
太少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
10623.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
10625.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
現在真正提撥雇主提撥的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
10625.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
10627.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
6.04法定是6% |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
10627.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
10629.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
這代表說我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
10640.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
10642.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
10642.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
10644.53 |
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我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
10644.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
10646.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
10646.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
10648.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
10648.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
10650.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
10650.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
10652.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
10652.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
10654.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
10654.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
10656.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
10656.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
10658.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
10658.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
10660.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
10660.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
10662.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
10662.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
10664.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
10664.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
10666.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
10666.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
10668.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
10644.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
10646.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
10646.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
10648.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
10648.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
10650.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
10650.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
10652.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
10652.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
10654.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
10654.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
10656.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
10656.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
10658.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
10658.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
10660.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
10660.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
10662.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
10662.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
10664.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
10664.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
10666.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
10666.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
10668.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
10668.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
10670.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
10670.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
10672.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
我們現在就要去提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
10670.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
10672.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
我們希望行政委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
10672.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
10674.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
尤其是勞動部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
10674.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
10676.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
加速別的議黨對勞動的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
10677.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
10679.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
10678.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
10680.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
沒有去做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
10680.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
10682.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
或者是具體勞動行政交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
10684.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
10686.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
20年前是講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
10686.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
10688.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
先求以再求法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
10688.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
10690.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
10694.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
10696.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
10696.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
10698.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
10709.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
10711.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
10711.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
10713.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
張委員時間已到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
10713.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
10715.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
如果張委員所關切的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
10715.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
10717.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
麻煩請勞動部送張委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
10717.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
10719.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
10719.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
10721.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
謝謝卓院長 香港部會首長備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
10721.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
10723.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
謝謝張委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
10723.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
10725.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
謝謝 |
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10727.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
10729.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
跟院會報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
10729.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
10731.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
我們一廠二樓旁聽來自雙北地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
10731.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
10733.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
家長聯誼會的好朋友們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
10733.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
10735.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
我們掌聲歡迎各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
10737.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
10739.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
接下來我們請徐宇峥委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
10747.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
10749.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
謝謝主席和院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
10749.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
10751.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
我們請卓文泰卓院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
10751.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
10753.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
麻煩再請卓院長備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
10752.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
10754.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
10760.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
10762.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
卓院委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
10762.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
10764.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
卓院長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
10764.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
10766.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
近期我們政府有規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
10766.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
10768.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
要把我國的海巡的除役艦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
10768.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
10770.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
整修之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
10770.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
10772.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
要原證給菲律賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
10772.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
10774.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
那引起漁民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
10774.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
10776.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
極大的震撼跟焦慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
10776.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
10778.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
當然政府推動外交的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
10778.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
10780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
維護區域的海事的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
10780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
10782.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
尤其整體的戰略考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
10782.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
10784.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
那這點我們當然都理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
10784.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
10786.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
但是請教院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
10786.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
10788.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
政府不能忽略 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
10788.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
10790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
那當時在2013年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
10790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
10792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
所發生的廣大星28號事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
10792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
10794.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
那當時非方執法人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
10794.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
10796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
冷血開槍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
10796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
10798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
導致我們的船長不幸身亡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
10797.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
10799.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
到今天剛好是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
10799.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
10801.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
過去的13年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
10801.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
10803.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
但是對於全台的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
10803.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
10805.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
這個廣大的漁民跟家屬來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
10805.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
10807.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
創傷依舊是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
10807.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
10809.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
歷歷在目 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
10809.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
10811.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
那當然當政府大手筆的把我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
10811.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
10813.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
這個海巡艦整修好送給菲律賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
10813.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
10815.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
基層漁民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
10815.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
10817.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
當然最沉痛的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
10817.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
10819.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
這個疑問就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
10819.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
10821.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
這艘我們納稅人養過的船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
10821.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
10823.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
送給這個菲律賓之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
10823.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
10825.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
會不會未來變成菲律賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
10825.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
10827.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
驅趕然後騷擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
10827.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
10829.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
甚至危害台灣漁船的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
10829.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
10831.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
會不會哪一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
10831.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
10833.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
海巡署在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
10833.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
10835.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
台飛的海域護漁的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
10835.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
10837.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
會形成一個我們台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
10837.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
10839.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
海巡艦對峙 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
10839.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
10841.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
台灣的原陣艦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
10841.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
10843.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
這樣的一個荒謬的現象 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
10843.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
10845.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
那院長我想這不只是情感的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
10845.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
10847.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
還是很實際的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
10847.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
10849.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
海上生存 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
10849.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
10851.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
作業安全跟國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
10851.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
10853.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
尊嚴的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
10853.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
10855.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
海巡署其實一直強調說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
10855.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
10857.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
這個原陣的協議已經宰民了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
10857.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
10859.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
不得用於對台灣漁船的執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
10859.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
10861.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
但是我們想知道的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
10861.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
10863.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
如果他們違反 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
10863.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
10865.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
這樣的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
10865.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
10867.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
政府有什麼樣的一個措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
10867.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
10869.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
好的許瑋文第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
10869.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
10871.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
第一島鏈的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
10871.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
10873.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
在維護印太地區和平穩定安全是必要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
10873.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
10875.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
所以我們會善盡我們的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
10875.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
10877.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
同時剛剛委員提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
10877.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
10879.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
在政見的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
10879.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
10881.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
雙方是有協議是會有條件的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
10881.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
10883.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
那重點在未來怎麼執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
10883.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
10885.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
這部分請管制委員做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
10885.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
10887.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
請問委員報告我們絕對是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
10887.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
10889.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
保護漁民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
10889.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
10891.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
因為海巡從來就在海上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
10891.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
10893.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
就是漁民背後最大的後盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
10893.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
10895.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
因此在贈送這一條船的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
10895.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
10897.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
我們所簽訂的協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
10897.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
10899.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
非常非常嚴肅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
10899.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
10901.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
而且完整的周全的保護了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
10901.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
10903.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
我們的漁民跟漁船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
10903.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
10905.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
未來這一條船絕對不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
10905.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
10907.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
那請問什麼樣的協議再分給簡單的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
10907.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
10909.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
說明一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
10909.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
10911.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
我說針對這樣我們的原證的協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
10911.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
10913.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
在這邊可以簡單的說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
10913.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
10915.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
讓漁民安心嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
10915.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
10917.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
對有關於相關的協議我們明白的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
10917.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
10919.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
要求在這協議裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
10919.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
10921.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
雙方已經協定這一艘船絕對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
10921.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
10923.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
是用於民用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
10923.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
10925.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
絕對不會編入任何的武裝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
10925.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
10927.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
你說用於什麼使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
10927.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
10929.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
絕對不會用於任何的武裝跟軍事之所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
10929.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
10931.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
而且絕對不會用來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
10931.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
10933.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
我們提到的菲律賓他把這條船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
10933.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
10935.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
用為什麼使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
10935.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
10937.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
有護漁的條款就是絕對不會用來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
10937.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
10939.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
所以你先回答我的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
10939.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
10941.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
他是要作為什麼使用呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
10941.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
10943.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
這艘船是作為什麼使用菲律賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
10943.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
10945.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
無論是在海上的救生救難的執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
10945.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
10947.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
或者是海洋保育的執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
10947.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
10949.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
永續的海洋的執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
10949.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
10951.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
都是他們最主要的執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
10951.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
10953.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
他們最主要的執法的範圍是在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
10953.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
10955.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
而且絕對不會用來對於我們國的漁船執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
10955.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
10957.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
我們現在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
10957.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
10959.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
如果他們違反這樣的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
10959.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
10961.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
我們有什麼樣的監督的機制呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
10961.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
10963.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
我們可以撤銷這個贈送的合約 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
10963.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
10965.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
我們可以要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
10965.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
10967.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
返還這艘船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
10970.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
10972.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
好 將撤銷這個合約 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
10972.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
10974.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
返還這艘船都是之後的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
10974.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
10976.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
那現在如果我們的漁民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
10976.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
10978.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
在海上遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
10978.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
10980.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
這樣子的一個事件的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
10980.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
10982.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
那我們會怎麼樣來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
10982.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
10984.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
政府怎麼介入來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
10984.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
10986.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
我們一定是依這個協定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
10986.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
10988.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
嚴格的來要求處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
10988.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
10990.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
另外跟委員報告 廣大星事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
10990.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
10992.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
造成了台飛海域 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
10992.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
10994.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
簽訂了漁業協定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
10994.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
10996.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
這個協定簽訂以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
10996.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
10998.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
我們的漁船在海上是被菲律賓的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
10998.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
11000.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
救手所救過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
11000.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
11002.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
而且救了兩次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
11002.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
11004.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
這兩次菲律賓的海巡救我們的漁船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
11004.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
11006.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
非常地接力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
11006.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
11008.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
非常關心的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
11008.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
11010.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
如果未來他們沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
11010.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
11012.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
這樣子的做違反規定的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
11012.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
11016.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
我們可以有什麼樣立即的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
11016.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
11018.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
請你明確回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
11018.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
11020.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
有沒有什麼立即的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
11020.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
11022.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
要不然我放資訊沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
11022.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
11024.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
資訊下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
11024.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
11026.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
因為你一直在回答我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
11026.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
11028.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
更不是我問的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
11028.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
11030.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
我只想問答請主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
11030.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
11032.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
到底如果他們違反協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
11032.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
11034.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
我們有什麼立即的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
11034.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
11036.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
是的 菲律賓在他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
11036.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
11038.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
搜救責任區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
11038.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
11040.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
要救我們的漁船的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
11040.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
11042.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
救生救難的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
11042.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
11044.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
有更好的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
11044.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
11046.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
所以反而是對我們會有更大的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
11046.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
11048.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
委員 廣大星事件我們簽訂協定以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
11048.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
11050.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
菲律賓的空軍報告是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
11050.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
11052.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
救我們漁船的部隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
11052.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
11054.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
救我們漁船的部隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
11054.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
11056.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
我先請教院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
11056.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
11058.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
就是剛剛主委有講到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
11058.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
11060.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
原證菲律賓這艘船是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
11060.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
11062.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
作為人道救援 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
11062.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
11064.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
但是台灣自己的漁業救援能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
11064.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
11066.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
同樣不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
11066.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
11068.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
所以決定要把這艘艦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
11068.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
11070.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
送給菲律賓的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
11070.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
11072.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
讓我們把題目問完 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
11072.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
11074.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
請暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
11074.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
11076.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
麻煩背行的官員不要搶答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
11076.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
11078.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
讓我們問資訊委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
11078.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
11080.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
好 請繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
11080.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
11082.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
11082.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
11084.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
好 學員請繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
11084.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
11086.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
請教院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
11086.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
11088.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
11090.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
11092.03 |
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那時間要還我 |
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11092.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
11094.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
院長 剛剛有講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
11094.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
11096.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
原證菲律賓這艘船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
11096.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
11098.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
是作為人道救援 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
11098.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
11100.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
但台灣自己的漁業救援能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
11100.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
11102.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
其實同樣不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
11102.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
11104.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
所以說在我們決定要把 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
11104.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
11106.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
這艘船送給菲律賓之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
11106.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
11108.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
有沒有先評估過國內的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
11108.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
11110.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
需求 有沒有需要救援 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
11110.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
11112.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
我跟委員報告一定是有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
11112.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
11114.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
那目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
11114.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
11116.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
目前在新增購的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
11116.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
11118.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
新增艦的船艦也都相當的數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
11118.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
11120.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
逐年在增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
11120.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
11122.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
我們把舊有的船艦去做這樣的一個交往 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
11122.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
11124.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
我想請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
11124.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
11126.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
院長 我們目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
11126.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
11128.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
台灣有幾艘救護船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
11129.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
11133.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
跟委員報告 我們所有的船都可以用來救護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
11133.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
11135.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
請問我們所有的海巡艦都可以用來救護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
11135.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
11137.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
是救人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
11137.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
11139.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
還是救船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
11139.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
11141.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
我們救護 當然是救生救難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
11141.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
11143.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
救人各船都幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
11143.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
11145.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
救救救人 並沒有拖船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
11145.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
11147.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
當然小船就沒有辦法拖帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
11147.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
11149.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
大船就有辦法拖帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
11149.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
11151.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
所以現在的問題就是海上的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
11151.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
11153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
這艘船是除役的船 委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
11153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
11155.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
我知道是除役的船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
11155.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
11157.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
可是台灣的救護能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
11157.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
11159.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
剛剛您講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
11159.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
11161.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
每一艘海巡艦都可以救人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
11161.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
11163.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
但他沒有辦法救船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
11163.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
11165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
所以我現在要問的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
11165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
11167.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
當可以拖帶 不是每一艘35噸就沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
11167.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
11169.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
但是新100噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
11169.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
11171.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
我們甚至於都可以拖帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
11171.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
11173.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
所以目前有這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
11173.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
11175.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
這個執法的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
11175.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
11177.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
就如果我們的漁船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
11177.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
11179.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
在海上遇到的這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
11179.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
11181.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
需要救援 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
11181.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
11183.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
需要把他們的船推回來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
11183.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
11185.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
海巡署的我們的海巡艦可以這樣做嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
11185.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
11187.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
符合有急迫的條件的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
11187.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
11189.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
我們會拖帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
11189.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
11191.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
主委 我現在請教你的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
11191.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
11193.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
到底目前可不可以這樣執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
11193.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
11195.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
海上的護助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
11195.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
11197.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
經常有 而且海上的護助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
11197.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
11199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
所以我們可以幫忙拖帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
11199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
11201.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
這個我從漁民那邊得到的訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
11201.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
11203.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
完全不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
11203.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
11205.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
可能請主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
11205.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
11207.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
您要回去瞭解清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
11207.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
11209.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
海上的護助跟海巡的拖帶都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
11209.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
11211.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
因為我們現在其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
11211.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
11213.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
台灣的救護能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
11213.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
11215.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
是相當不足的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
11215.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
11217.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
目前台灣的救護船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
11217.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
11219.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
就我瞭解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
11219.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
11221.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
就只有宜安六號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
11221.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
11223.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
就只有宜安六號 這還是屬於宜蘭縣政府的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
11223.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
11225.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
11225.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
11227.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
當我們台灣的漁民需要這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
11227.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
11229.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
救護的時候 事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
11229.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
11231.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
他們是沒有這樣子的救護能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
11231.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
11233.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
只要有救生救命 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
11233.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
11235.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
危險 我們絕對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
11235.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
11237.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
絕對是一定要救 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
11237.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
11239.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
那為什麼漁民有這麼多的疑慮呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
11239.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
11241.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
11241.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
11243.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
是不會的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
11243.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
11245.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
如果漁民有救生救命需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
11245.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
11247.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
而海巡沒有救的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
11247.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
11249.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
我們也不能容許 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
11249.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
11251.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
我們也不能容許 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
11251.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
11253.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
所以請主委可能這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
11253.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
11255.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
要請您先 要不然我待會就請您先回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
11255.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
11257.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
因為漁民有救生救命 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
11257.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
11259.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
急迫性的部院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
11259.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
11261.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
是漁船護助拖帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
11261.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
11263.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
為優先 跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
11263.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
11265.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
在海上的救援 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
11265.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
11267.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
有一定的不同的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
11267.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
11269.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
有不同的救援的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
11269.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
11271.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
請問可以暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
11270.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
11272.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
時間暫停 請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
11273.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
11275.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
請 想表達什麼 沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
11275.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
11277.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
我是想說這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
11277.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
11279.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
既然我今天質詢的是卓文泰院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
11279.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
11281.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
那我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
11281.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
11283.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
詢問的問題就請院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
11283.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
11285.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
那當院長如果請主委回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
11285.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
11287.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
可以提出要求 沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
11287.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
11289.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
麻煩請卓院長答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
11289.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
11291.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
是 我跟委員報告的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
11291.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
11293.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
應該需要的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
11293.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
11295.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
由部會首長來做補充說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
11295.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
11297.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
這也是立法有據的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
11297.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
11299.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
也請委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
11299.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
11301.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
但是我的意思是說 既然我請院長回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
11301.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
11303.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
也讓主委回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
11303.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
11305.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
但是還是希望說那個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
11305.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
11307.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
要控制一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
11307.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
11309.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
主委有很多的資訊要跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
11309.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
11311.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
所以針對這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
11311.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
11313.93 |
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我們希望就是說現在漁民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
11313.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
11315.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
甚至包括社會各界 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
11315.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
11317.93 |
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大家都非常憂慮的就是我剛講那個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
11317.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
11319.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
萬一有一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
11319.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
11321.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
是我們台灣的海巡艦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
11321.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
11323.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
在這個台飛的海域上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
11323.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
11325.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
遇到了這個台灣的原陣艦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
11325.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
11327.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
這樣一個對峙的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
11327.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
11329.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
那當時我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
11329.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
11331.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
那當然我們也要去做一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
11331.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
11333.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
比較具體的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
11333.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
11335.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
所以我們在這邊呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
11335.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
11337.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
也要具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
11337.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
11339.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
向這個我們的行政院提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
11339.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
11341.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
四項的一個要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
11341.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
11343.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
第一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
11343.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
11345.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
向漁民說明我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
11345.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
11347.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
政見協議的保障內容範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
11347.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
11349.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
跟違反約定時的處理方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
11349.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
11351.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
讓我們的漁民能夠很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
11351.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
11353.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
我們的政府在違反約定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
11353.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
11355.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
這個對方違反約定之後的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
11355.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
11357.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
交涉跟處理的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
11357.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
11359.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
第二點就是把漁民的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
11359.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
11361.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
列為台飛海事合作的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
11361.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
11363.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
定期議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
11363.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
11365.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
雙研究透過既有的台飛漁業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
11365.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
11367.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
執法合作的一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
11367.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
11369.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
定期的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
11369.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
11371.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
海上的通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
11371.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
11373.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
緊急聯繫跟爭議的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
11373.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
11375.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
那一旦有涉及到我們的漁船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
11375.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
11377.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
也希望能夠讓船長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
11377.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
11379.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
跟漁民、漁會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
11379.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
11381.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
都有明確的緊急通報的窗口 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
11381.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
11383.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
並說明處理的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
11383.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
11385.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
那第三個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
11385.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
11387.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
第三個就是希望建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
11387.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
11389.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
除意見員外前的國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
11389.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
11391.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
需求的一個評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
11391.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
11393.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
就像我剛剛講的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
11393.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
11395.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
到底我們國內的需求是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
11395.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
11397.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
那目前在我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
11397.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
11399.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
在國內的各項的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
11399.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
11401.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
一個海域上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
11401.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
11403.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
是不是有可以這樣需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
11403.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
11405.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
救難船的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
11405.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
11407.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
那評估結果也應該公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
11407.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
11409.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
讓漁民知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
11409.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
11411.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
那第四個就是研擬配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
11411.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
11413.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
專職的救援船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
11413.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
11415.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
並編足長期的營運經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
11415.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
11417.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
11418.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
11420.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
宜安六號的漁業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
11420.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
11422.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
巡護救難的一個用途 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
11422.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
11424.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
目前事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
11424.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
11426.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
它的這個妥善率還不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
11426.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
11428.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
我們希望能夠有妥善率較高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
11428.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
11430.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
能夠救援的專責的救援船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
11430.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
11432.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
讓我們的漁民在海上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
11432.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
11434.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
的作業能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
11434.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
11436.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
沒有任何的一個憂慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
11436.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
11438.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
那所以在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
11438.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
11440.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
這四項請教一下院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
11440.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
11442.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
是不是可以同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
11442.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
11444.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
讓我們的各部隊來去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
11444.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
11446.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
第一項凡涉及跟我漁民相關的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
11446.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
11448.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
或安全保障等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
11448.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
11450.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
有必要讓漁民更了解的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
11450.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
11452.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
這個當然沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
11452.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
11454.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
第二項漁民安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
11454.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
11456.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
我想這個基於雙方互惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
11456.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
11458.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
都應該彼此有這樣的認知 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
11458.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
11460.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
如果有進一步的協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
11460.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
11462.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
海委會跟我們現在單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
11460.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
11462.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
周遭國家的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
11462.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
11464.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
跟各種協議都經常在舉行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
11464.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
11466.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
這個基於雙方互惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
11466.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
11468.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
我們一定會把它列為優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
11468.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
11470.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
下面三四兩點都目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
11470.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
11472.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
已經在進行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
11472.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
11474.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
已經就是這樣在做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
11474.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
11476.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
所以我們現在有專責的救援船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
11476.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
11478.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
有編足長期營運的經費嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
11478.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
11480.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
11480.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
11482.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
我們所有的海巡他們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
11482.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
11484.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
有需要救援的時候每一艘船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
11484.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
11486.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
都要當作是救援的船隻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
11486.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
11488.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
所以委員如果認為說有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
11488.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
11490.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
譬如說地方政府他們要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
11490.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
11492.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
專責的救援船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
11492.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
11494.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
如果他們願意有那種計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
11494.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
11496.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
需要我們來協助爭取經費的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
11496.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
11498.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
我們會來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
11498.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
11500.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
我們還是希望中央政府有專責的救援船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
11500.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
11502.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
當然您剛剛講海巡署現在在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
11502.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
11504.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
不過就我的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
11504.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
11506.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
我想主委也要再去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
11506.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
11508.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
目前事實上是救人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
11508.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
11510.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
對於拖船的部分救船的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
11510.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
11512.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
目前並沒有做這樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
11512.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
11514.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
我們還是希望這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
11514.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
11516.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
還是要了解真正漁民的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
11516.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
11518.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
保障漁民的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
11518.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
11520.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
才是我覺得一個政府應該做的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
11520.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
11522.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
11523.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
11525.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
來接下來請教一下院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
11525.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
11527.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
11526.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
11528.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
臺美對等關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
11528.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
11530.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
這個臺灣對等貿易協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
11530.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
11532.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
第三點九條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
11532.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
11534.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
就是在協定生效三年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
11536.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
11538.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
要達到這個在製造業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
11538.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
11540.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
跟漁撈業的勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
11540.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
11542.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
收取招募費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
11542.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
11544.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
能夠零收費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
11544.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
11546.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
那當然這是接軌國際勞動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
11546.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
11548.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
的一個規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
11548.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
11550.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
保障移工的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
11550.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
11552.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
當然這個部分要減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
11552.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
11554.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
他們不合理的招募的一個負債 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
11554.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
11556.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
這個本席當然支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
11556.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
11558.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
但是政府對外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
11558.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
11560.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
做出承諾也要顧及國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
11560.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
11562.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
的一個產業的承受的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
11562.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
11564.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
11564.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
11566.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
希望保障移工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
11566.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
11568.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
但不要犧牲我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
11568.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
11570.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
臺灣漁民最基本的一個生存權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
11570.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
11572.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
那所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
11574 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
11576 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
我們現在看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
11576 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
11578 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
當這個Arts目前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
11578 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
11580 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
這個協議出來之後說要在三年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
11580 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
11582 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
那但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
11582 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
11584 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
我們可以看到現在連 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
11584 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
11586 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
移工的合理招募成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
11586 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
11588 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
都沒有明確的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
11588 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
11590 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
那因為其實我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
11590 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
11592 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
在沿海的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
11592 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
11594 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
競小漁船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
11594 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
11596 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
競小型的漁船其實非常的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
11596 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
11598 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
那他們不像大漁船或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
11598 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
11600 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
這個遠洋漁業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
11600 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
11602 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
他們的負擔能力不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
11602 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
11604 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
那漁船呢他的收入會看天候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
11604 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
11606 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
看漁訓還有看他們的漁價 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
11606 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
11608 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
那增加的每一筆成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
11608 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
11610 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
都可能直接影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
11610 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
11612 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
他的生計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
11612 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
11614 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
所以說這可能不算是公平的招募 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
11614 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
11616 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
而是有可能算是一種政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
11616 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
11618 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
在霸凌漁民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
11618 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
11620 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
所以院長您知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
11620 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
11622 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
雇主招募的費用有哪些嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
11623.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
11625.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
包括他的交通費啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
11625.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
11627.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
仲介費等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
11626.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
11628.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
他有三樣喔就是國外仲介費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
11628.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
11630.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
第三方雇用費跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
11630.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
11632.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
雇主直接招募費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
11632.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
11634.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
那我想勞動部在八月份的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
11634.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
11636.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
有發函給農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
11636.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
11638.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
說會跟來源國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
11638.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
11640.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
協商確認來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
11640.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
11642.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
這個第三方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
11642.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
11644.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
這個仲介的一個費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
11644.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
11646.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
那請問一下勞動部長現在的進度如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
11648.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
11650.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
跟委員說明喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
11650.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
11652.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
第一個這裡面的確會有一個工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
11652.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
11654.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
是我們應該來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
11654.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
11656.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
也要把 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
11656.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
11658.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
在海外的仲介費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
11658.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
11660.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
那他的收費的狀況怎麼樣能夠做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
11660.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
11662.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
更透明化的掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
11662.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
11664.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
因為避免在裡面其實有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
11664.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
11666.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
對我了解那請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
11666.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
11668.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
目前正在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
11668.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
11670.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
那大概什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
11670.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
11672.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
會完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
11672.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
11674.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
我們認為今年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
11674.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
11676.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
應該是今年下半年到明年上半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
11676.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
11678.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
那事實上這些漁業界都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
11678.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
11680.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
等你們的這個招募的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
11680.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
11682.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
相關費用他們要去計算他們的成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
11682.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
11684.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
因為對於小型漁船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
11684.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
11686.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
來說他們其實可能就兩個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
11686.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
11688.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
三個人你再多增加這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
11688.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
11690.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
這麼大的一個費用事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
11690.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
11692.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
對他們來說的負擔是相當重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
11692.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
11694.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
那我也想請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
11694.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
11696.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
那你們像有沒有預估就是我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
11696.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
11698.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
雇主的招募費大概有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
11699.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
11701.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
當然會依據來源國不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
11701.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
11703.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
對其實因為不同的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
11703.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
11705.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
其實是不太一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
11705.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
11709.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
那現在的確我們也在跟來源國正在討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
11709.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
11711.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
因為來源國其實也在跟我們討論說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
11712.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
11714.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
因為現在有幾個來源國他們也越來越 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
11714.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
11716.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
重視公平招募的這個概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
11716.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
11718.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
可是當來源國重視公平招募 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
11718.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
11720.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
的概念的時候大家也要去確保 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
11720.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
11722.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
他的收費不會造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
11722.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
11724.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
11724.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
11726.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
尤其是台灣的雇主 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
11726.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
11728.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
不合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
11728.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
11730.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
你們有先評估過大概是多少費用嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
11730.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
11732.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
因為不可能千萬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
11732.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
11734.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
18到20萬左右以我們了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
11734.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
11736.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
我順便跟委員補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
11736.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
11738.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
因為委員非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
11738.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
11740.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
不會到這麼高的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
11740.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
11742.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
我要跟委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
11742.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
11744.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
那你剛剛說多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
11744.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
11746.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
我剛才說的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
11746.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
11748.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
我們還沒有政策進場之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
11748.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
11754.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
現在目前的行情他們所回饋的是18到20萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
11754.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
11758.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
但是他還會扣除一些其他的費用會回給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
11758.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
11760.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
所以可能到12到15萬之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
11760.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
11764.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
那是經過漁船的傳統他們所回饋的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
11764.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
11768.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
本席所掌握的資訊是大概18萬左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
11768.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
11770.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
那剛剛勞動部長說沒那麼多嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
11770.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
11772.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
那是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
11772.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
11774.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
跟委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
11774.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
11778.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
第一個因為他過去其實是跟移工來收 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
11778.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
11780.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
所以移工會被收的金額會比較高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
11781.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
11785.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
移工跟這個仲介之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
11785.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
11787.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
他的協商能力是比較低的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
11787.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
11789.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
部長既然你已經開念一段時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
11789.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
11791.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
你只要告訴我是多少就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
11791.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
11793.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
我們目前看到跟部長收的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
11793.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
11797.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
基本上都會比跟移工來收的來的低蠻多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
11797.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
11799.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
那我們現在正在確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
11799.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
11801.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
現在收的這個金額的幅度會低到什麼程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
11801.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
11803.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
那我們也在跟來源國的證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
11803.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
11805.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
是指多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
11805.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
11807.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
剛剛陳部長已經講了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
11807.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
11809.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
大概12到15萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
11809.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
11811.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
那如果可能狀況不一定都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
11811.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
11813.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
好那你先舉個例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
11813.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
11815.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
哪個國 比如說越南多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
11815.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
11817.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
印尼多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
11817.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
11819.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
越南確實是比較高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
11819.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
11821.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
越南確實是比較高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
11821.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
11823.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
大概是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
11823.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
11825.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
我其實現在不好直接去講一個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
11825.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
11827.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
但我的確說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
11827.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
11833.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
過去跟移工收的確是收的比較高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
11833.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
11837.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
但是現在其實有在做公平招募的雇主 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
11837.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
11839.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
目前他們回饋給我們的意見是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
11839.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
11841.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
他們其實被收的金額比 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
11841.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
11845.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
跟移工收來的低蠻多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
11845.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
11849.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
那請問一下我們在簽訂這個Arch之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
11849.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
11851.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
你們都沒有先做過評估嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
11851.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
11853.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
大概會退移雇主增加多少的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
11853.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
11855.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
然後就這樣就簽下去了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
11855.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
11857.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
那未來的雇主沒辦法負擔怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
11857.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
11859.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
11859.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
11861.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
台美關稅在簽署三年之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
11861.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
11863.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
是要把外籍的這些船員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
11863.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
11865.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
移工比照國內的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
11865.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
11867.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
這是一個非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
11867.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
11869.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
這是一個非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
11869.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
11871.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
那他整個權益的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
11871.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
11873.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
包括他的生活條件他的勞動條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
11873.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
11875.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
所以我剛說這個接軌合計的回返 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
11875.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
11877.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
我們是支持的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
11877.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
11881.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
所以您就回到這個招募會本身是其中的一個因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
11881.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
11883.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
那我們現在正在解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
11883.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
11885.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
我們的遠洋漁業最大的困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
11885.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
11887.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
就是他招募了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
11887.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
11889.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
開始他上船就會暈船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
11889.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
11891.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
甚至於沒辦法捕魚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
11891.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
11893.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
這段時間可能到半年到一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
11893.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
11895.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
他都還在訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
11895.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
11897.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
但是他還要付這些招募費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
11897.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
11899.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
所以招募費在協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
11899.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
11901.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
在用直聘的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
11901.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
11903.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
我們跟勞動部配合以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
11903.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
11905.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
一個更重要也是船員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
11905.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
11907.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
更需要的就是他們進來以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
11907.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
11909.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
我們用其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
11909.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
11911.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
11911.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
11915.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
那個經費來支持他去做這些船員的一個訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
11915.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
11919.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
讓他們上船以後就馬上能夠去捕魚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
11919.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
11921.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
這個是他們更需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
11921.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
11923.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
我們當然都支持照顧外來的移工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
11923.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
11926.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
但是我們自己台灣的這個僱主 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
11926.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
11928.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
我們要讓他們能夠生存 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
11928.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
11930.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
所以除了這個問題之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
11930.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
11932.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
還有包括說事實上外籍移工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
11932.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
11933.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
如果到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
11933.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
11935.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
比如說我們付的這個招募費他沒有來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
11935.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
11937.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
或者是逃跑逃逸外勞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
11937.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
11939.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
那這樣的狀況的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
11939.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
11941.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
應該要訂立一個標準讓他們有所徵詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
11942.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
11944.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
跟委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
11945.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
11949.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
現在我們在這個台美的ART裡面的條文是指的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
11949.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
11951.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
在他的聘僱期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
11951.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
11954.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
要把這個招募費來做支付 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
11954.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
11957.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
所以不一定一定是指那個一開始的當下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
11957.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
11960.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
其實他是有一段時間可以陸陸續續來支付的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
11960.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
11963.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
所以我們也有注意到就是假如 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
11963.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
11966.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
這個移工如果他遇到失聯的問題的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
11966.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
11969.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
這當然是僱主會是一個很大的損失 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
11969.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
11971.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
所以我們也會希望能夠把僱主在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
11971.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
11974.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
他假設遇到失聯這樣的狀況的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
11974.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
11976.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
跟剛剛就像陳部長講到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
11976.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
11978.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
整體大家對於這樣的僱主 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
11978.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
11982.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
從勞動部從農業部一起來給他支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
11982.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
11984.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
在哪些環節上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
11984.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
11987.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
我們既可以符合接軌國際的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
11987.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
11992.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
但又希望能夠給我們的僱主有更多的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
11992.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
11994.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
我們當然要顧及僱主的生存 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
11996.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
11998.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
除了僱主的這個生存之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
11998.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
12000.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
我們現在也要想了解的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
12000.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
12003.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
這個如果他短期內沒有辦法履約 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
12003.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
12005.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
那所以有關的這個退費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
12005.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
12008.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
逮捕跟處理期限跟爭議的解決辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
12008.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
12010.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
這些你們都已經有所掌握嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
12010.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
12012.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
還是已經有規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
12012.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
12016.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
我們目前也有在這些相關的思考跟規劃之中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
12016.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
12017.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
但就像剛剛跟委員說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
12017.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
12019.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
我們目前在這個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
12019.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
12024.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
我們跟農業部這邊會一起針對這個海外的 |
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仲介海外的招募費的透明化 |
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我們應該要來把它給弄清楚 |
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那這個部分也是現在正在跟來源國正在確認的事情 |
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所以您剛剛是講年底之前會完成 |
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我們希望至少有初步能夠掌握到這些訊息 |
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那我們會跟農業部一起來協助 |
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我想會協助這個我們相關的包括外籍的漁工 |
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其實現在還有一個問題就是說 |
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他會不會有可能事實上在他來源國 |
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就已經被收一個仲介費 |
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那我們要怎麼去掌握這樣的狀況 |
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否則我們標榜的是零付費 |
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但是事實上是台灣零付費 |
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結果他搞不好在來源國就被他的仲介就先收取了 |
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像這樣的狀況 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
我跟委員報告一下就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
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12071.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
我們現在跟我們這些外籍遠洋漁船的船東的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
12071.5 |
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也希望他們提供 |
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因為整個外籍漁工是在國外招募國外聘用 |
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12077.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
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他們本身船東最清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
12079.5 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
他們當地的仲介如果有收費是收什麼樣的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
12083.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
12086.5 |
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那成如剛才洪部長講的不同的國家是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
12086.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
12090.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
那另一方面我們也直接跟勞動部配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
12090.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
12094.5 |
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當地來源國的這些仲介的一個規費的收法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
12094.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
12097.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
那兩邊的資訊要能夠對得起來 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
12101.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
這樣的話我們後續才能夠去看後面怎麼樣的配套去寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
12101.5 |
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現在就是有關的我們漁業的雇主 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
12106.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
12107.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
他們其實擔憂的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
12107.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
12109.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
我想兩位部長應該都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
12109.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
12114.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
在這邊也希望宇禎這邊也具體的請這個院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
12114.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
12119.5 |
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是不是能夠來這個有在內的五項事項能夠來協助他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
12119.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
12124.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
第一個就是公佈來源國的招募費明細跟合理的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
12124.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
12126.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
讓他們能夠有所依循 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
12126.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
12130.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
而且也可以讓他們這個試算一下參考金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
12130.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
12134.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
防止換個名目被重複收費超額收費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
12135.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
12141.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
第二項是提出小型的漁船負擔試算跟分級的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
12142.5 |
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為什麼要這樣講呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
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因為事實上我剛剛講的就是我們小型漁船的船主 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
12145.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
12150.5 |
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他可能就是兩個人三個人要多負擔十幾萬的成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
12150.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
12154.5 |
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對他們來說可能需要研擬一個過渡期間的部分補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
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12157.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
或其他的減負的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
12157.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
12160.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
第三項就是希望能夠訂定分期支付 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
12163.5 |
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退費跟地補規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
12163.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
12167.5 |
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就是他能夠依照時據的服務進度來支付 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
12167.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
12172.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
如果漁工未到短期的失聯或者是離職的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
12172.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
12175.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
也要明定這個仲介的退費地補責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
12175.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
12178.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
跟處理的期限跟爭議的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
12178.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
12184.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
第四項是讓執拼跟輔導適用於基層漁船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
12184.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
12188.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
政府說已經開放了海洋漁撈業自印尼辦理執拼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
12188.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
12192.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
但是事實上對於一般的雇主來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
12195.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
他其實也不懂印尼語 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
12195.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
12198.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
相關的文件需要協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
12198.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
12203.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
可能都需要我們的勞動部這邊來協助他們查核實際的收費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
12203.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
12208.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
建立漁工保密的申訴跟不當收費的追討機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
12208.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
12211.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
第五個就是公布推動的時程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
12211.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
12213.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
剛剛講三年的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
12213.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
12216.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
但是漁業界現在都不知道到底推動的時程是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
12216.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
12221.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
所以我們也希望可以利用這三年的調試期先行示範 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
12221.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
12224.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
針對遠洋跟我們近沿海的漁船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
12224.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
12229.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
實際示範之後把每個漁工所贓目的成本、贓目的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
12229.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
12232.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
跟相關的爭議都能夠處理之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
12232.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
12236.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
把這個成效能夠定期的公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
12236.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
12240.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
讓不管是漁民、船主、甚至是漁業界 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
12240.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
12243.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
都能夠指導大家共同來研討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
12243.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
12245.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
作為一個調整制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
12245.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
12247.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
請問一下院長這五項的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
12247.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
12249.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
請問一下行政院是否可以協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
12249.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
12251.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
是的,跟委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
12251.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
12253.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
這個漁工零付費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
12253.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
12256.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
這是一個國際的趨勢跟必要的一個面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
12256.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
12258.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
所以我們也要見鬼國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
12260.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
這個也是要必須面對的事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
12260.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
12262.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
所以在談判的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
12264.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
努力爭取來三年的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
12264.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
12266.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
就是要來進行各種的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
12266.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
12269.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
包括管理上、法規上、財務上的整個調試 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
12269.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
12271.5 |
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就爭取這三年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
12271.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
12273.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
所以第五點就是根本的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
12273.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
12275.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
我們會用三年的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
12275.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
12277.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
前面一二三四在內的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
12277.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
12281.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
所有跟漁工相關問題的保障也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
12281.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
12283.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
或者我們管理方式也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
12283.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
12285.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
我們來做全面的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
12285.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
12287.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
那什麼時候會開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
12287.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
12289.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
當然要有一個起點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
12291.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
那像剛剛講的這些的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
12293.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
大概什麼時候可以有初步的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
12293.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
12296.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
委員其實你現在在上面提的這幾點裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
12296.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
12298.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
其實有蠻多的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
12298.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
12300.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
也是這段時間我們跟農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
12300.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
12302.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
其實在思考的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
12302.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
12303.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
那什麼時候可以提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
12303.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
12305.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
兩個月還是三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
12305.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
12305.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
哦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
12306.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
12307.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
12307.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
12309.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
像第一點的部分我剛才就說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
12309.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
12313.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
就是說我要收集到傳東的資訊還有來源國的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
12313.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
12315.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
那未來我們在公布這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
12315.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
12317.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
應該是一個range |
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12317.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
12318.7 |
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應該是一個range |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
12318.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
12319.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
不可能是一個價錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
12319.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
12321.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
這個我要先說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
12321.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
12323.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
那這個第一個部分大概在年底的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
12323.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
12325.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
我想我們會有一個比較好的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
12325.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
12327.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
所以就是如果從現在開始說年底之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
12327.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
12330.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
我們會有一個比較完整的一個收集 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
12330.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
12332.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
然後我們還會跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
12332.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
12334.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
我們所有的包括全國漁會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
12334.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
12336.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
還有我們的傳東這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
12336.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
12338.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
要做一個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
12338.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
12340.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
才能夠去做適度的公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
12340.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
12342.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
那那個來提出小型漁船的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
12342.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
12344.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
那小型漁船的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
12344.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
12346.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
我們是用另外一個方式來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
12346.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
12347.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
我剛才說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
12347.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
12349.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
船員聘了以後他不一定會捕魚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
12349.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
12351.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
那在這段時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
12351.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
12353.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
我們幫他訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
12353.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
12355.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
那這樣子的一個試算的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
12355.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
12358.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
還有分級協助的政策大概什麼時候可以提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
12358.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
12361.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
這個就是要根據我們的第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
12361.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
12364.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
所得到的這個比較完整的資訊以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
12364.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
12366.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
才會去看漁船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
12366.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
12368.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
要傳東要付的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
12368.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
12370.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
跟漁工要付的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
12370.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
12372.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
那傳東要付的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
12372.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
12374.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
有沒有機會適應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
12374.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
12376.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
是不是給我們一個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
12376.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
12378.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
要不然這樣說三年可能一轉眼就過去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
12379.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
12381.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
我想我們在年底的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
12381.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
12383.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
會把在前面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
12383.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
12385.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
第四項現在已經在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
12385.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
12387.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
在做一些協助跟處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
12387.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
12389.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
還有包括希望說透過漁會的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
12389.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
12391.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
那前面三項在年底的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
12391.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
12393.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
是不是可以在年底之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
12393.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
12395.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
前底之前我們有一個初步的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
12395.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
12397.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
一些初步的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
12397.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
12399.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
但是不一定能夠馬上能夠對外公布 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
12399.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
12401.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
因為有很多東西還要跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
12401.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
12403.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
傳東還要跟各漁會來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
12403.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
12405.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
來做一個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
12405.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
12407.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
那是不是我們可以在這邊講說在年底之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
12407.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
12409.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
可以把初步的這樣一個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
12409.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
12411.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
跟所有的像剛剛提到的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
12411.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
12413.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
能夠跟相關的單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
12413.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
12415.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
大家能夠開始去溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
12415.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
12417.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
12417.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
12419.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
不管是我們的漁工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
12419.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
12421.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
或者是我們的漁業代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
12421.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
12423.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
或者是漁會或者是漁民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
12423.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
12425.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
他們共同的一個心聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
12425.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
12427.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
之後再來制定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
12427.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
12429.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
而不要單方面的時候政府就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
12429.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
12431.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
絕對不會 我們的政策規劃出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
12431.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
12433.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
一定會跟相關的利害關係的人去溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
12433.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
12435.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
我們請相關部會把這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
12435.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
12437.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
都列出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
12437.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
12439.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
那麼在年底之前把問題都整合好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
12439.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
12441.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
那麼就開始跟業界 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
12441.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
12443.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
跟漁工跟漁民大家來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
12443.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
12445.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
那未來三年當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
12445.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
12447.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
我們要一定是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
12447.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
12449.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
要開始時間到了之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
12449.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
12451.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
會把這個完全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
12450.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
12452.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
完美的法式把它完成起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
12452.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
12454.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
我想院長接軌國際是好事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
12454.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
12456.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
我們支持 但是不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
12456.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
12458.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
建立在犧牲我們漁民的權益上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
12458.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
12460.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
所以還是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
12460.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
12462.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
行政院就是拿出誠意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
12462.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
12464.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
把制度講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
12464.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
12466.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
把我們的這個配套做完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
12466.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
12468.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
把負擔影響降到最低 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
12468.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
12470.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
讓漁民能夠安心的出海 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
12470.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
12472.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
這才是負責任的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
12472.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
12474.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
謝謝院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
12474.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
12476.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
最後這邊要請教院長就是有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
12478.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
12480.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
兩位部長可以請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
12480.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
12482.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
就是川習二會之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
12482.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
12484.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
就是我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
12484.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
12486.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
就是針對美方的一些訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
12486.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
12488.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
包括就是針對說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
12488.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
12490.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
台灣政治人物不應該平凡的赴美 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
12490.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
12492.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
拜會智庫等華府的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
12492.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
12494.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
那美國的國務卿盧比歐也談到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
12494.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
12496.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
對外軍售的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
12496.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
12498.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
他必須考量到美軍自身的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
12498.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
12500.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
武器的庫存 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
12500.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
12502.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
跟軍工的產能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
12502.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
12504.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
跟全球的戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
12504.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
12506.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
那這些釋放的訊息都讓我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
12506.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
12508.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
覺得對於我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].start |
12508.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].end |
12510.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].text |
現在的這個第二筆的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
12510.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].end |
12512.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].text |
我們的發價 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].start |
12512.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
12514.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
發價書就是有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
12514.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
12516.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
140億美元的軍購 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
12516.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
12518.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
這個部分我想知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
12518.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
12520.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
現在川習會之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
12520.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
12522.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
那我們其實當時在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
12522.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].end |
12524.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
12524.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
12526.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
有關我們7800億的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
12526.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].end |
12528.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].text |
一個軍購的特別條例的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
12528.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].end |
12530.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
當時所提到的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
12530.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
12532.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
希望我們能夠儘速的通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
12532.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
12534.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
那免得這個我們的訂單 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
12534.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
12536.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
我們的訂單被取消 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
12536.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
12538.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
但是我們從5月8號通過之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
12538.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
12540.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
到現在將近五個月了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
12540.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
12542.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
可是第二筆的這個發價書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
12542.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
12544.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
我們到現在也沒看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
12544.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].end |
12546.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
請問一下目前的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
12546.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
12548.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
我想跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
12548.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
12550.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
我想我們現在各項的軍購案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
12550.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
12552.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
我們已經有成立一個專案的團隊了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
12552.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
12554.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
那現在我們跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
12554.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
12556.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
12556.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
12558.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
雙方還是在一個明明的協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
12558.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
12560.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
跟定期的會議等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
12560.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
12562.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
那我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
12562.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
12564.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
12564.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
12566.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
就這個第二筆的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
12566.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
12568.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
140億美元的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
12568.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
12570.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
12570.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
12572.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
那我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
12572.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
12574.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
7金為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
12574.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
12576.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
7金為止美方並沒有通知我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
12576.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
12578.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
有過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
12578.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
12580.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
有關任何的改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
12580.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
12582.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
畢竟這是我們經過長期的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
12582.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
12584.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
當時我們通過這樣的預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
12584.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
12586.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
可能很快就會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
12586.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
12588.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
第二筆發價書來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
12588.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
12590.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
但是到現在已經五個月過去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
12590.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
12592.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
還是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
12596.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
12598.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
好謝謝徐一貞委員的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
12598.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
12600.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
謝謝主任院長相關部會所長的備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
12600.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
12602.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
12608.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
12610.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
好報告議會我們本日排定的資訊委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
12610.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
12612.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
已經質詢完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
12613.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
12615.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
謝謝主任院長正副院長以及各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
12615.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
12617.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
部會所長的練習 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
12617.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
12619.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
打詢 10月6號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
12619.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
12621.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
星期二上午9點繼續進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
12621.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
12623.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
施政報告諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
12623.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
12625.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
我們繼續處理朝野黨團協商結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
12625.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
12627.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
請議事人宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
12628.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
12630.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
立法院黨團協商結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
12630.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
12632.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
時間115年10月20日星期五上午95分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
12632.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
12634.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
第一點一廠主席辦公室決定事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
12634.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
12636.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
一請各黨團於10月19日星期一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
12636.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
12638.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
下午50前將115年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
12638.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
12640.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
增長政府總預算和附屬大陸預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
12640.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
12642.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
營業及非營業部分之提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
12642.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
12644.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
順治財政委員會會審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
12644.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
12646.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
預時不再收案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
12646.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
12648.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
二財政委員會收案後叫各該委員會整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
12648.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
12650.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
復印相關提案後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
12650.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
12652.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
於10月23日星期五中午12時前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
12652.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
12654.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
提供各黨團及相關行政部門參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
12654.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
12656.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
請行政部門先行向提案委員及 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
12656.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
12658.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
黨團進行雙向說明落實溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
12658.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
12660.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
以利或序進行密集協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
12660.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
12662.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
主事人韓國瑜協商代表傅坤啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
12662.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
12664.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
徐宇貞洪文凱蔡啟昌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
12664.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
12666.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
莊若雄范雲陳青龍陳朝之 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
12666.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
12668.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
洪玉祥宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
12669.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
12671.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
請問院會對以上朝野黨團協商結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
12671.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
12673.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
有無意義?沒有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
12673.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
12674.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
我們就通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
12674.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
12676.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
115年10月2日 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
12676.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
12678.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
朝野黨團協商結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
12678.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
12680.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
經決定如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
12680.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
12682.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
1.請各黨團10月19日星期下午5點前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
12682.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
12684.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
將115年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
12684.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
12686.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
12686.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
12688.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
12688.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
12690.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
營業及非營業部分之提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
12690.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
12692.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
送至財政委員會會審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
12692.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
12694.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
預時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
12694.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
12696.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
2.財政委員會會審議後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
12696.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
12698.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
交各委員會整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
12698.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
12700.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
復印相關提案後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
12700.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
12702.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
於10月23日星期五中午12點前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
12703.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
12705.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
提供各黨團及相關行政部門參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
12705.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
12707.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
請行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
12707.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
12709.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
先行向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
12709.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
12711.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
提案委員及黨團進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
12711.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
12713.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
雙向說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
12713.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
12715.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
落實溝通以立 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
12715.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
12717.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
後續進行密集協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
12717.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
12719.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
報告院會我們本日會議進行到此為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
12719.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
12721.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
再次謝謝我們陳俊宇委員陳冠廷委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
12721.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
12723.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
莊若雄委員陳永康委員陳金威委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
12723.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
12725.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].text |
林茜琪委員許宇峻委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
12725.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
12727.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
共同陪同我們參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
12727.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
12729.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].text |
今天的總諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].start |
12729.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].end |
12731.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].text |
今天會議進行到此為止現在休息 |