| IVOD_ID |
17703 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17703 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-27 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-27T08:35:43+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-27T09:59:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
01:23:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/16eb79f0bb3b77db5d607785baadf92316ccf1aef4ae3ebac4e1634621e76625f90a0c406749f05f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院朝野黨團協商（事由：協商事由第一項：本院經濟委員會報告併案審查委員萬美玲等17人、委員林岱樺等18人分別擬具「水土保持法第二條條文修正草案」、委員林倩綺等16人擬具「水土保持法第三十三條條文修正草案」及台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「水土保持法第二十三條、第三十二條及第三十三條條文修正草案」案。協商事由第二項：本院經濟委員會報告併案審查委員謝衣鳯等17人、委員萬美玲等17人、委員林岱樺等18人分別擬具「山坡地保育利用條例第二條條文修正草案」、委員徐富癸等17人、委員羅智強等16人分別擬具「山坡地保育利用條例第十五條條文修正草案」、委員鄭天財SraKacaw等17人擬具「山坡地保育利用條例第二條及第三十七條條文修正草案」、委員鄭天財SraKacaw等17人擬具「山坡地保育利用條例第三十七條條文修正草案」及台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「山坡地保育利用條例第十條、第三十四條及第三十五條條文修正草案」案。協商事由第三項：本院經濟委員會報告併案審查委員呂玉玲等16人、委員楊瓊瓔等25人、委員邱志偉等21人、委員陳超明等16人分別擬具「農業發展條例第六十條條文修正草案」、委員邱志偉等21人擬具「農業發展條例增訂第六十五條之一條文草案」、委員邱鎮軍等20人擬具「農業發展條例第三條條文修正草案」、委員劉建國等18人擬具「農業發展條例第二條條文修正草案」及台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「農業發展條例第十條之一及第六十九條條文修正草案」案。） |
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| 委員發言時間 |
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永續師 法務處 |
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行政權 |
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好 那個協商進行 |
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我們先介紹到場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
1865.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
1867.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
中嘉賓委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
1867.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
1869.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
還差一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
1872.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
1874.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
國民黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
1878 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
1881 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
1880.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
1882.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
其實可以講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
1882.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
1883.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
為什麼今天要協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
1883.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
1884.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
講第二點就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
1884.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
1886.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
如果要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
1892.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
1894.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
專委9點半那個院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
1894.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
1896.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
那個人要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
1896.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
1898.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
1898.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
1900.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
那個通常都要到黨團山長 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
1900.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
1902.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
那他要過去五人級的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
1902.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
1904.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
1904.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
1906.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
所以這邊如果9點半之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
1906.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
1908.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
其實我就過去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
1908.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
1910.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
麥克風先給你關掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
2743.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
2745.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
2749.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
2751.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
好 到場委員就是有中嘉賓委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
2751.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
2753.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
跟鄭天才委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
2753.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
2755.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
出席的機關代表的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
2755.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
2757.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
2757.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
2759.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
內政部參事 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
2759.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
2761.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
法務部參事廖江縣 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
2761.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
2763.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
原民會土地管理處 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
2763.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
2765.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
謝亞傑處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
2765.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
2767.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
財政部國產署曾國基署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
2766.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
2768.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
團進 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
2768.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
2770.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
環境部環境管理署陳永成 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
2770.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
2772.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
檢認機政內政部地政司 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
2772.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
2774.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
檢認事查張哲明 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
2775.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
2779.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
農業部農村發展水利保住府署長陳俊言 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
2779.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
2781.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
農業部資源有限利用事實施長黃興達 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
2781.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
2783.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
農業部法治處處長吳福隆 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
2784.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
2786.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
經濟部民意署副署長陳崇縣 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
2786.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
2788.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
經濟部水利署副總工人士王國良 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
2788.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
2790.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
經濟部地礦中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
2790.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
2792.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
副署長鄧博文 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
2792.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
2794.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
臺灣自來水公司財務處處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
2794.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
2796.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
白龍綠交通部檢認記政 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
2796.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
2798.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
黃 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
2799.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
2801.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
檢認機政 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
2804.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
2810.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
好我們先處理這個水土保持法部分條文修正草案的黨團協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
2810.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
2820.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
本案1 115年8月20日本院第11屆第5會期第23次院會決議交付這個黨團協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
2826.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
2830.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
好第2條請問各位委員有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
2830.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
2832.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
答案通過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
2832.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
2834.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
2835.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
2837.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
對現在屬於保法 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
2837.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
2839.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
第2條 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
2839.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
2841.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
沒有意見了 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
2841.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
2843.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
在第23條 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
2845.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
2847.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
2849.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
2851.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
主席各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
2851.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
2855.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
那針對水土保持法第23條條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
2855.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
2861.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
之前主席這邊有一個在動議的修正條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
2861.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
2869.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
那財政部國產署這邊希望在第三項的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
2869.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
2873.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
在第三項的後段加一個彈弓 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
2873.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
2875.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
土地前屬公有者 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
2875.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
2879.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
鬥點無機營人或使用人時鬥點 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
2879.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
2883.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
因通知土地管理機關改善據點 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
2883.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
2885.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
那跟各位委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
2885.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
2889.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
因為台灣大概有將近20 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
2889.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
2893.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
224萬公頃的土地是國有 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
2893.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
2897.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
加上公有大概就占了百分之65 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
2897.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
2899.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
那因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
2899.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
2903.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
委員在做23條或33條的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
2903.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
2905.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
我們競表同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
2905.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
2909.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
因為可以加重這個行為人相關的處分及要求他改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
2909.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
2911.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
這是一個正面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
2911.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
2913.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
但對公產管理機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
2913.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
2915.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
目前公產管理機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
2915.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
2917.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
管有國有土地的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
2917.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
2921.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
大概有3607個機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
2921.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
2925.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
那這個公有管理機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
2925.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
2929.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
管理機關因為他沒有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
2929.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
2931.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
隨法法賦予的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
2931.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
2933.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
所以他沒有辦法直接執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
2933.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
2937.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
像拆除或是其他的這個公權力的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
2937.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
2941.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
所以必須要透過民事或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
2941.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
2943.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
這個其他的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
2943.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
2945.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
要求行為人或經營人 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
2945.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
2947.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
來做這個改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
2947.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
2951.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
那如果最後找不到行為人的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
2951.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
2953.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
這個國有土地的管理機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
2953.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
2957.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
還是要負最終的這個責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
2957.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
2961.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
但是因為涉及到預算的編列工程的發包 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
2961.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
2965.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
及甚至事後財產的列帳等等作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
2965.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
2969.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
他的期限可能就比較難掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
2969.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
2975.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
所以我們才建議說在第23條的第三項的後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
2975.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
2979.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
加上剛剛報告的這些文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
2979.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
2981.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
那這些也希望委員支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
2981.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
2983.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
2985.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
2987.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
好 那因為你們有找我溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
2987.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
2989.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
那其他 我這邊是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
2989.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
2992.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
他把它修正成淡土地全屬公有者 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
2992.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
2994.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
無經營人或使用人時 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
2994.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
2997.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
應通知土地管理機關改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
2997.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
2999.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
請問兩位 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
3000.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
3002.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
3006.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
3010.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
可以 好 那我們就照這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
3010.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
3014.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
黨團的這個協商的內容通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
3021.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
3023.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
接下來我再問下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
3023.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
3026.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
所以第32條各位有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
3026.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
3028.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
這是我們照樣通過的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
3031.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
3036.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
在第33條也是照我們的這個委員會的審查通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
3036.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
3039.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
這個各部會委員也都沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
3042.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
3046.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
好 那我們現在處理完水保的這個黨團協商間 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
3046.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
3050.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
接下來我們進行這個三鋪地的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
3056.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
3057.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
這個順序 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
3060.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
3063.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
好 三鋪地保育利用條例的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
3064.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
3066.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
我們本案115年8月22日 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
3066.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
3068.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
本院第11屆第5會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
3068.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
3072.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
第23次院會決議交付黨團協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
3072.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
3074.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
那我們現在的話呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
3074.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
3077.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
針對這個第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
3078.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
3081.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
各位委員還有部會沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
3082.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
3084.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
再來的話第10條 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
3084.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
3086.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
各部會委員沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
3086.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
3089.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
再來第15條各部會局委員沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
3091.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
3095.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
好 接下來第35條各部會局委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
3096.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
3097.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
3097.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
3101.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
好 那我們現在進行第37條 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
3101.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
3102.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
3102.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
3103.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
3103.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
3104.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
有吧 還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
3105.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
3106.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
我知道啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
3107.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
3109.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
要不要簡單說明念一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
3112.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
3114.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
主席各位委員大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
3114.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
3117.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
那財政部附稅署針對上次會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
3117.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
3118.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
甄定第六項 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
3118.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
3121.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
因為有牽涉到連動到第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
3121.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
3123.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
那我們第三項有四個款 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
3123.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
3126.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
其中第三款這個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
3126.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
3129.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
因為我們目前的遺產鎮宇稅法 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
3129.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
3131.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
是針對土地的這個遺產部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
3131.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
3133.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
就縣職來課稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
3133.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
3135.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
所以如果要抵繳的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
3135.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
3137.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
也應該按照縣職來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
3137.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
3140.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
所以如果按照縣行條案照 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
3140.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
3141.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
縣職加市城的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
3141.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
3144.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
這會產生這個橫平性的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
3144.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
3147.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
還有對其他土地的部分也會有不公 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
3147.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
3150.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
所以這個建議第三款排除試用 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
3150.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
3151.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
另外這個第四款 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
3151.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
3152.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
目前呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
3152.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
3155.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
我們這個如果按照縣職加市城 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
3155.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
3158.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
它的價值大於市價的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
3158.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
3161.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
那可能會高估我們的稅收增起 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
3161.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
3162.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
那目前強制執行法 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
3162.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
3165.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
跟行政執行法都有相關的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
3165.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
3167.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
那建議是不是第四款 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
3167.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
3169.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
也排除試用以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
3175.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
3179.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
好 那我想問一下這個政天才的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
3180.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
3183.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
所以他現在的話在修正就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
3185.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
3189.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
這個內容應該在各委員的這個桌上 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
3189.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
3190.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
那政天才委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
3190.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
3192.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
我來說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
3192.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
3194.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
我在星期一的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
3194.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
3200.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
已經邀請相關部會來協商協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
3200.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
3203.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
除了這個第三關才 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
3203.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
3208.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
付稅署所提的第三款第四款不列入之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
3209.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
3211.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
那因為內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
3212.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
3213.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
地政司 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
3213.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
3216.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
他也希望第一款不列入 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
3216.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
3220.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
所以就一再的退讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
3220.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
3223.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
所以現在只剩下第二款 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
3223.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
3224.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
3227.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
3231.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
好 所以按照這樣子的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
3231.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
3234.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
所以各位委員跟部會有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
3236.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
3237.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
好 沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
3242.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
3243.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
還沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
3254.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
3257.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
我唸一下 他修改是第三項第二款 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
3266.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
3267.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
就是我手上這一張吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
3268.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
3269.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
3270.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
3271.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
好 所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
3277.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
3279.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
對 對 對 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
3279.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
3280.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
那表現一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
3280.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
3281.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
我現在的序子 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
3281.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
3282.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
對 那五個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
3282.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
3283.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
三個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
3289.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
3291.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
基準的轉後面變距離 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
3305.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
3306.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
3310.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
3311.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
3312.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
3314.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
好 所以這個時候來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
3314.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
3318.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
我們就是按照這個黨團的協商結論通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
3323.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
3328.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
好 接下來我們進行這個農業發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
3328.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
3331.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
部分條文修正草案的黨團協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
3336.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
3337.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
好 那就 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
3341.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
3342.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
第二條的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
3342.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
3345.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
大家都 委員跟各部會都沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
3345.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
3347.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
好 大家通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
3347.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
3350.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
然後這個第三條的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
3350.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
3352.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
是維持現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
3352.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
3354.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
部會跟這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
3354.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
3355.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
委員沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
3357.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
3361.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
好 那現在要處理就是第十條至一 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
3361.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
3363.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
那上次 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
3363.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
3366.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
我們的這一個協商的一個結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
3366.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
3367.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
那現在的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
3367.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
3369.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
我們再把這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
3370.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
3371.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
文字修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
3371.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
3373.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
有沒有修正印出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
3373.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
3375.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
就是把那個彈書 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
3382.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
3383.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
好 我唸一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
3385.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
3386.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
3387.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
3388.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
就剛剛那個就 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
3389.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
3391.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
好 然後現在就是把那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
3391.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
3395.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
當為農業設施及農舍所需者不再持現 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
3395.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
3397.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
我們把這個拿掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
3397.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
3398.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
另外呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
3398.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
3403.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
這個其他有害農業生產物質的這個認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
3403.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
3405.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
我們寫成附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
3405.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
3407.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
那附帶決議也請放出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
3411.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
3412.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
好 那我唸一遍 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
3425.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
3427.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
所以這樣子的一個附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
3427.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
3428.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
各部會跟委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
3428.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
3429.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
3429.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
3430.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
3430.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
3433.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
那因為我們就是在第十條之一的 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
3433.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
3436.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
文字的認定再做一個修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
3436.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
3440.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
那其他的條文包含第十六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
3440.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
3442.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
第六十五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
3442.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
3444.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
還有第六十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
3444.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
3447.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
就依上次的這個我們開會的協商通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
3447.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
3450.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
所以這樣子各位委員跟部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
3452.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
3453.3 |
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第六十九條 對 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
3454.71 |
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3456.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
第六十九條上次討論過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
3469 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
3471 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
那個 昭偉還有各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
3471 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
3473 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
那 既然 六十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
3473 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
3475 |
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因為原先如果看到那個後面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
3476.11 |
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3478.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
條文的部分 |
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3478.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
3481.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
就是 經按次連續起吾法的後段 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
3481.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
3483.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
仍未改善的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
3483.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
3485.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
再跟後面這個要行政局 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
3485.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
3487.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
執行執行政府處理的部分 |
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3487.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
3488.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
3488.97 |
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3490.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
建議還是有一個要嘛就加 |
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3490.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
3492.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
一種方式加一個必要時 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
3492.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
3494.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
或者是說可以在這個按次連續處罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
3494.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
3497.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
能未改善這個部分的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
3497.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
3499.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
這樣可以跟前後有個 |
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3499.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
3501.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
一個是行為人 一個是行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
3501.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
3502.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
要在介入的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
3502.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
3503.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
有一個程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
3503.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
3505.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
一個階段性的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
3505.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
3506.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
會比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
3506.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
3508.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
在執行上會比較務實一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
3508.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
3509.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
3509.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
3511.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
你們都不把要修的東西弄出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
3511.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
3513.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
你叫我這樣子我看 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
3513.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
3514.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
3514.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
3517.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
那個傳一下好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
3518.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
3519.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
然後也沒有話說 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
3519.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
3521.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
到底哪邊有改 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
3522.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
3524.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
那個主席手上我們桌上應該有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
3524.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
3526.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
原來的69條 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
3526.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
3528.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
前天我們協商通過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
3528.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
3530.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
文字內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
3530.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
3532.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
那這裡面因為我們依照行政程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
3532.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
3534.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
3535.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
3539.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
農地他有違反第10條之一第二項的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
3540.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
3542.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
那我們可以要求行為人 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
3543.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
3545.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
他要 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
3552.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
3554.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
那麼這裡面是指 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
3554.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
3556.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
對於行為人義務人 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
3556.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
3558.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
有改正義務人 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
3558.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
3560.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
那後面的寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
3566.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
3568.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
那這個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
3569.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
3572.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
這個就看我們行政機關他們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
3572.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
3573.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
要再加什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
3574.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
3576.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
加上那個暗刺 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
3587.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
3589.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
因為這是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
3589.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
3591.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
那個行為人他有改正之義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
3591.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
3593.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
那這個行政程序上是不是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
3593.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
3596.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
有這樣的一個連續處罰跟通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
3596.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
3598.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
才 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
3603.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
3605.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
客責以那個行為人 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
3605.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
3607.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
他有改正之義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
3607.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
3609.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
好而且要 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
3609.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
3611.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
一直要求他要求到他都做不到的我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
3612.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
3614.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
行政機關才接手 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
3614.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
3616.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
那就是請法務部這邊表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
3617.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
3619.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
主席各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
3619.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
3621.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
那現在建議的這個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
3621.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
3623.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
3623.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
3625.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
跟原來的這個通過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
3625.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
3627.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
3626.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
3628.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
大方向是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
3628.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
3630.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
沒有任何的這個差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
3630.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
3632.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
只是說主管機關這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
3632.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
3634.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
是希望說他們在介入做 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
3634.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
3636.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
待旅行待執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
3636.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
3638.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
待執行之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
3638.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
3640.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
加一個要件就是說行為人 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
3640.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
3642.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
他沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
3643.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
3645.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
未改善未進這個改善義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
3645.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
3647.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
我想這個只是讓這個程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
3647.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
3649.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
更精確一點而已但是跟原來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
3649.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
3651.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
條文是沒有中大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
3651.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
3653.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
歧義 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
3653.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
3655.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
所以我們認為沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
3655.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
3657.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
這個金案是連續處罰人未改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
3657.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
3659.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
這個我聽懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
3659.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
3661.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
那你接下來是 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
3662.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
3664.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
為什麼要再加且有危害公共安全者 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
3664.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
3666.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
不危害公共安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
3666.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
3668.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
地方政府就不用揭露 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
3668.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
3670.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
我們先跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
3670.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
3672.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
是說這一段且有 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
3672.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
3674.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
且有危害公共安全者這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
3674.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
3676.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
我們也可以刪除那我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
3676.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
3678.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
投身家是因為有時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
3678.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
3680.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
就跟國產署說明一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
3680.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
3682.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
那個農地違規就讓這個違規狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
3682.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
3684.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
如果很多的時候機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
3684.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
3686.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
他每年的預算還有他執行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
3686.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
3688.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
量能有限所以他一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
3688.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
3690.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
會去優先處理他一定會優先處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
3690.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
3692.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
去排拆那所以優先處理的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
3692.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
3694.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
那當然是優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
3694.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
3696.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
有關危害公共安全一定會優先處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
3696.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
3698.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
那我們只能說去強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
3698.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
3700.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
那如果有疑慮我們也可以建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
3700.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
3702.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
就把它刪掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
3702.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
3704.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
我覺得那個且有危害公共安全者 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
3704.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
3706.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
那個先拿掉 |
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3706.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
3708.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
你拿掉這個範圍更大 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
3708.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
3710.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
比如說我等他們家有被他 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
3710.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
3712.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
噴噴水噴噴 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
3712.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
3714.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
我又不危害公共安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
3715.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
3717.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
好 那我們就經案子連續處罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
3717.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
3719.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
人為改善並得由 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
3719.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
3721.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
直轄市縣市政府代為恢復 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
3721.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
3723.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
的就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
3722.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
3724.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
這樣可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
3724.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
3726.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
3728.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
3730.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
是 但是有人就擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
3730.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
3732.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
對 但是我說不用寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
3732.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
3734.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
就放個更大一點 是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
3746.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
3748.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
3748.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
3750.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
所以這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
3750.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
3752.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
改成這樣子應該OK |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
3757.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
3759.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
所以第69條的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
3759.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
3761.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
我們就按照剛剛的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
3761.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
3763.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
長期的協商結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
3763.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
3765.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
這個通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
3771.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
3773.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
好 所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
3773.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
3775.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
我們今天這個農法也是按照 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
3775.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
3777.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
長期的協商通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
3777.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
3779.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
那附帶決議剛剛念過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
3779.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
3781.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
然後並且依照這個附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
3781.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
3783.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
第10條之一的附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
3783.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
3785.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
那這個通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
3785.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
3787.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
3788.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
3790.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
好 多謝各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
3790.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
3792.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
黨台協商再簽一簽就可以 |