| IVOD_ID |
17697 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17697 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-5-26,36-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境、司法及法制委員會第2次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境、司法及法制委員會第2次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-26T08:30:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-26T12:55:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
04:24:01 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/bfaf9b39ac01a6857928296430210a06819ba3698dbd896ec4e1634621e76625b227f8ed364d6aa35ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境、司法及法制委員會第2次聯席會議（事由：一、審查「性侵害犯罪防治法部分條文修正草案」等10案。
(一)委員葉元之等19人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法第五十二條條文修正草案」案。
(二)委員黃健豪等23人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法部分條文修正草案」案。
(三)委員徐巧芯等16人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法增訂第三十二條之一條文草案」案。
(四)委員鄭正鈐等22人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法增訂第二十八條之一條文草案」案。
(五)委員吳沛憶等17人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法增訂第十條之一條文草案」案。
(六)委員魯明哲等18人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法增訂第十一條之一條文草案」案。
(七)委員魯明哲等18人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法第二十九條條文修正草案」案。
(八)委員陳培瑜等16人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法部分條文修正草案」案。
(九)委員王育敏等20人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法第二十九條及第四十三條之一條文修正草案」案。
(十)委員張雅琳等16人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法部分條文修正草案」案。
二、審查「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」等17案。
(一)委員陳亭妃等17人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」案。
(二)委員徐欣瑩等27人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第三十二條及第三十三條條文修正草案」案。
(三)委員張智倫等18人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」案。
(四)委員廖先翔等17人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第三十九條條文修正草案」案。
(五)委員蔡其昌等17人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例增訂第五十三條之二條文草案」案。
(六)委員黃秀芳等18人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例增訂第五十三條之二條文草案」案。
(七)委員羅廷瑋等18人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第十二條、第五十三條之二及第五十五條條文修正草案」案。
(八)委員林宜瑾等19人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例增訂第五十三條之二條文草案」案。
(九)委員林俊憲等18人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例增訂第五十三條之二條文草案」案。
(十)委員邱議瑩等16人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例增訂第五十三條之二條文草案」案。
(十一)委員林月琴等21人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例增訂第十三條之一及第五十三條之二條文草案」案。
(十二)委員王育敏等19人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第十二條、第五十三條之二及第五十五條條文修正草案」案。
(十三)委員范雲等16人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例增訂第五十三條之二及第五十三條之三條文草案」案。
(十四)委員陳培瑜等16人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」案。
(十五)委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第十二條及第五十三條之二條文修正草案」案。
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好像人性 |
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1443.75 |
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1445.75 |
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今天禮拜五我會去參加A屏幕 |
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1445.75 |
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1446.75 |
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到時候再請示 |
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1446.75 |
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1447.75 |
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好 |
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好 |
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1450.75 |
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今天有可能 |
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1450.75 |
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1451.75 |
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有可能還不見 |
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1454.96 |
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1455.96 |
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我看今天選上 |
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1458 |
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1461.54 |
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新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新的新 |
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是 |
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我把手 |
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1504.78 |
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來 跳出國去了 |
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1504.78 |
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1507.78 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1510.98 |
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我來跳出國去了 |
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1510.98 |
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1512.98 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1514.98 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1516.98 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1518.98 |
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1520.98 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1520.98 |
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1522.98 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1524.98 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1534.98 |
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1536.98 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1604.98 |
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1606.98 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1608.98 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1610.98 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1612.98 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1612.98 |
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1614.98 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1614.98 |
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1616.98 |
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1616.98 |
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1618.98 |
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1620.98 |
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1622.98 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1622.98 |
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1624.98 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1624.98 |
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1626.98 |
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1626.98 |
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1628.98 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1628.98 |
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1630.98 |
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1630.98 |
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1632.98 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1611.86 |
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1613.86 |
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跟院長去日本 |
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1613.58 |
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1615.58 |
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就這樣 |
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1669.53 |
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1671.53 |
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謝謝大家 |
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1715.53 |
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1717.53 |
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再見 |
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1720.15 |
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1722.15 |
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就是豬條的心臟 |
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1866.17 |
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1868.17 |
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現在開會請阻密報告出席人數 |
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1868.17 |
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1870.17 |
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報告委員會出席委員12人一組法定人數 |
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1872.48 |
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1874.48 |
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請醫事人員宣讀上次會議一示弱 |
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1876.19 |
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1878.19 |
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立法院第11屆第五會期 |
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1878.19 |
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1880.19 |
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社會福利局衛生環境司法及法治委員會 |
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1880.19 |
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1882.19 |
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第一次聯席會議議事錄 |
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1882.19 |
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1884.19 |
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時間115年7月16日 |
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1884.19 |
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1886.19 |
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96分至10、30、40分 |
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1886.19 |
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1888.19 |
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地點群星樓801會市 |
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1888.19 |
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1890.19 |
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出席委員盧憲義等24人 |
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1890.19 |
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1892.19 |
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練習委員郭育芹等12人 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
1892.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1894.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
練習關於衛生福利部部長石重良及各相關部會主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
1897.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1899.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
主席林昭吉委員葉琴 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
1900.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1902.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
委員林淑芬等8人提出變更議程提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
1906.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1908.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
提案建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
1909.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1911.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
討論事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
1911.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1913.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
變更為繼續審查行政院和清審人工生殖法修正草案等16案 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
1913.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1915.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
本案 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1915.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1917.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
經會主席徵詢在場委員後 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
1917.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1919.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
在場委員表示意 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1919.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1921.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
經舉手表決結果在場出席委員9人 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
1921.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1923.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
贊成者7人反對者2人 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1923.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1925.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
贊成者多數予以通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1925.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1927.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
討論事項繼續審查及審查行政院和清審人工生殖法 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1927.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1929.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
修正草案等16案 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1932.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1934.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
決議以本日審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1934.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1936.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
依照行政院提案通過行政院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1936.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1938.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
第二條第二章張明 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1938.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1940.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1941.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1943.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1943.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1945.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1945.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1947.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
第十三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1947.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1949.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
第十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1949.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1951.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
第十五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
1951.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1953.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
第十六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
1953.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
1955.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
第十七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
1955.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1957.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
第十八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
1957.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1959.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
第十八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
1959.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1961.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
第十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
1961.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1963.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
第十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1963.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1965.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
第十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
1965.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1967.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
第十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1967.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1969.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
第十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1945.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
1972.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
第三條本法用詞定義與 著 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
1972.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
1973.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
留給 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
1973.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
1975.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
iate |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
1969.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
1973.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
4. 釋字第748號解釋施行法第2條關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
1973.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
1975.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
指女性雙方當事人 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
1975.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
1979.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
5. 受數單身女性只接受人工申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
1979.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
1981.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
指無婚姻關係或無司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
1981.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
1984.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
釋字第748號解釋施行法第2條關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
1984.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
1985.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
指女性 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
1985.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
1990.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
6. 女性受數者指受數配有女方或受數單身女性 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
1990.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
1993.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
7. 捐贈者指無償提供金子或卵子 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
1993.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
1996.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
與受數配有實施人工申請者 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
1996.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
2004.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
8. 無性申請指非金或金子及卵子之結合 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
2004.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
2008.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
利用單一體細胞培養產生後代製成過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
2008.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
2010.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
9. 經卵互贈者 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
2010.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
2013.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
2. 受數配有約定以一方受數配有男方之金子 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
2013.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
2016.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
與他方受數配有女方之卵子結合 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
2016.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
2020.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
使各方之女性受數者受胎之情形實 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
2020.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
2025.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
人工申請機構指經中央主管機關許可實施人工申請相關義務之醫療機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
2026.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
2028.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
3. 第四條造型證人提案即為 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
2028.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
2031.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
王奕川等五人所提修正動於修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
2031.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
2034.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
如下第四條只取出一方之金子植物 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
2034.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
2039.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
另一方體內實施之配有或結合關係間之人工申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
2039.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
2043.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
除第二十一條第三款及其違反之處罰規定外 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
2043.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
2045.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
不適用本法之規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
2045.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
2047.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
4. 第五條造型證人提案即為 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
2047.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
2049.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
林月琴等十七人提案修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
2049.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
2050.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
2050.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
2053.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
莊主管機關應邀及人工申請醫學倫理法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
2053.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
2059.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
與兒童權益性別平等或其他相關領域之學者專家及學者民間團體代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
2060.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
2062.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
斟酌社會倫理之觀念 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
2062.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
2066.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
醫學科技之發展公共衛生之維護生育權及平等權之保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
2066.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
2068.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
組成人工申職諮詢會 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
2068.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
2071.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
定期檢討及評估本法執行之情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
2071.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
2075.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
傾向女性委員人數不得少於全體委員人數二分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
2075.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
2078.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
5. 第六條造型證人提案修正通過如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
2078.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
2083.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
第六條夫妻或女同性雙方符合下列各款情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
2083.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
2087.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
並通過第八條與第十條鎖定檢查及評估者 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
2087.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
2089.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
得接受人工申職 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
2089.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
2094.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
一妻或女同性雙方至少一方能以其子宮懷孕及分娩 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
2094.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
2096.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
二夫妻均以下列情形之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
2096.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
2099.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
一方經診斷罹患不孕症 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
2099.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
2102.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
二一方罹患莊主管機關公告之 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
2102.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
2107.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
重大遺傳性疾病經由自然生育顯有生育異常子女之餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
2107.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
2109.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
三夫妻至少一方具有健康之生殖細胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
2109.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
2113.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
無需同日使用第三人捐贈精子及卵子 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
2113.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
2116.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
女同性雙方至少一方具有健康之卵子 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
2116.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
2119 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
無需使用第三人捐贈卵子 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
2119 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
2121 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
單身女性符合下列各款情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
2121 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
2124.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
並通過第八條與第十條鎖定檢查及評估者 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
2124.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
2126.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
得接受捐贈精子及人工申職 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
2126.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
2127.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
一妻或女同性一妻或女同性 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
2127.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
2133.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
設有戶籍且於失速前五年內每年於我國居住183日以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
2133.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
2135.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
二年滿18歲三具有健康之卵子 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
2135.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
2137.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
無需使用第三人捐贈卵子 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
2137.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
2140.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
且能以其子宮懷孕及分娩 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
2140.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
2142.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
六第八條造型正在提案即委 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
2142.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
2144.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
擬業勤等三人所提 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
2144.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
2146.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
修正動議修正通過第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
2146.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
2149.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
夫妻女同性雙方或單身女性 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
2149.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
2152.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
於接受人工申職前因金莊主管機關指定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
2152.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
2155.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
專業機構以人工申職子女最佳利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
2155.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
2157.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
審酌一切情狀為評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
2158.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
2161.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
專業機構及其評估人員進行評估時 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
2161.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
2162.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
應具有性別評論儀式 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
2162.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
2164.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
並遵守利益迴避原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
2164.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
2167.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
前項評估應製作記錄並保存之 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
2167.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
2170.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
地項專業機構與其評估人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
2170.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
2172.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
應具備之資格費值指定 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
2172.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
2174.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
評估之內容方式程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
2174.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
2175.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
與前項評估記錄之製作 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
2175.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
2179.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
保存方式及其他因遵行事項之辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
2179.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
2180.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
由莊主管機關定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
2181.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
2181.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
2181.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2182.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
召行證人提案為 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
2182.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
2184.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
年數分等十八人提案 |
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2184.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
2184.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
第六條 |
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2184.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
2185.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
第八條 |
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2185.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
2186.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
及第九條 |
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2186.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
2188.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
執意修正通過如下 |
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2188.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
2188.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
第九條 |
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2188.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
2190.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
醫療機構因申請莊主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
2190.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
2192.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
許可為人工申職機構 |
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2192.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
2194.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
後使得實施人工申職 |
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2194.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
2195.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
接受申職細胞之捐贈 |
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2195.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2196.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
儲存或提供 |
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2198 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
2199.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
醫療機構因申請主管機關 |
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2199.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
2202.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
許可後使得實施以非捐贈為目的 |
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2202.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2204.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
直升職細胞冷凍儲存及 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
2204.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
2205.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
提供之行為儲存 |
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2205.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
2207.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
對象因爲十八歲以上之成年人 |
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2207.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2209.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
但因醫療因素者不在此現 |
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2210.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2211.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
其二項許可之有效 |
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2211.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2213.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
期間爲三年期間屆滿 |
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2213.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
2215.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
仍你繼續實施 |
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2215.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
2217.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
前二項行爲者因於屆滿 |
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2217.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2219.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
三個月前申請許可 |
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2219.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2222.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
其申請許可之條件程序審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
2222.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2223.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
基準廢止管理 |
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2224.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2227.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
申職細胞或胚胎儲存之品質管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
2227.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
2230.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
計畫告知同意費用及其他因遵行 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
2230.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
2232.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
事項之辦法由中央主管機關定制 |
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2232.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2235.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
中央主管機關對第一項及第二項機構 |
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2235.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2236.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
應爲定其查核 |
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2236.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2238.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
並應公布查核結果 |
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2238.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2239.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
其查核相關作業辦法由 |
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2239.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2241.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
主管機關定制 |
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2241.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2242.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
八第十一條 |
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2242.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2244.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
造型證券體驗修正通過如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
2244.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2246.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
第十一條捐贈人符合 |
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2246.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
2248.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
下列各款情形者人工申職機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
2248.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2251.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
使得接受其捐贈申職細胞 |
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2251.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2253.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
因男性十八歲以上未滿四十歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
2253.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2256.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
女性十八歲以上未滿四十歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2256.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2259.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
二經下列檢查及評估結果爲適合捐贈 |
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2259.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2261.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
一一般心理及生理狀況 |
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2261.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2263.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
二家族使病使包括本人四 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2263.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2267.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
親等以內血清之遺傳性疾病紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
2267.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2270.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
三有礙生育健康之遺傳性或傳性疾病 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2270.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2273.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
四其他經中央主管機關公告知事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2273.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2274.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
三以無償方式捐贈 |
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2274.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2277.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
四未曾捐贈或曾捐贈而使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
2277.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2279.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
其申職細胞之女性收入者 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2279.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2282.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
未完成活產且未儲存 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2282.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2283.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
其剩餘之生殖細胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
2284.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2285.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
前項第二款 |
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2285.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2287.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
正檢查及評估因製作紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2287.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2289.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
受素配偶或受素單身女性 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2289.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2291.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
在中央主管機關所訂金額或嫁額內 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2292.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2295.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
得提供營養費或營養品與捐贈人 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2295.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2297.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
或負擔其必要之檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2297.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2300.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
醫療工時損失及交通費用或提供或負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2301.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2303.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
因爲請人工申職機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2303.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2304.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
爲之第一項第四款 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2304.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2306.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
所訂請請人工申職機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2306.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2307.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
因向中央主管機關查明後 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2308.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2310.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
使得接受捐贈九第十二條 |
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2310.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2312.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
造型正面提案爲零數分等十八人 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2312.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2314.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
提案及爲零月請等三人 |
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2314.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2316.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
所提修正動因修正通過如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2319.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2320.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
第十二條人工申職機構 |
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2320.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2322.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
接受申職細胞捐贈 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2322.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2325.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
使因向捐贈人說明施行方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
2325.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2327.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
可能發生之並發證及副作用 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2327.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2329.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
以及第二十七條至第二九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2329.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2331.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
第三十五條至第四十二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2331.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2332.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
規定之相關權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2332.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2334.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
義務及醫療風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2334.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2337.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
並取得捐贈人瞭解及書面同意時的遺質 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2338.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2340.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
人工申職機構接受申職細胞捐贈 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2340.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2342.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
因製作紀錄並載明下列事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2342.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2345.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
以捐贈人之姓名住所或居所 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2345.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2347.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
身份證明文件字號出生 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2347.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2348.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
年月日身高體重 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2348.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2351.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
血型膚色髮色及國籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2351.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2353.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
二捐贈項目及數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2353.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2354.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
三捐贈日期 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2354.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2357.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
人工申職機構於捐贈人同意後 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
2357.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2358.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
得以前項紀錄 |
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2358.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2361.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
以並載明捐贈人之姓去 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2361.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2363.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
姓養或其他不足以識別 |
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2363.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2365.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
其身份之相關資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2365.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2367.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
供人工申職子女 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2367.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2368.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
知悉其身世來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2368.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2370.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
其記載方式內容及保存 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
2370.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2372.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
由中央主管機關定制 |
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2373.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2375.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
十第三條召行正體案修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2375.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2376.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
通過如下第十三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2376.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2377.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
人工申職機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2377.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2380.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
對同一捐贈人捐贈之申職細胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2381.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2383.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
不得同時或先後提供下列對象使用 |
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2385.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2387.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
第一二對以上受數配偶 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
2387.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2389.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
二二對以上受數單身女性 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2389.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2393.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
三一對受數配偶及一位受數單身女性 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
2393.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2394.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
前項使用申職細胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
2394.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2396.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
這女性受數者未完成活產 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2396.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2398.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
且有下列情形之一者 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2398.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2400.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
同一捐贈人捐贈之申職細胞的 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2400.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2402.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
繼續提供其他受數配偶或 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
2402.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2404.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
受數單身女性使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2404.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2406.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
亦已放棄實施人工申職 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2406.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2407.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
二本人死亡 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2408.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2409.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
三期配偶死亡 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2409.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2411.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
同一捐贈人捐贈之申職細胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2411.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2413.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
與提供一位女性受數者成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
2413.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2415.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
懷孕後應即停止提供使用 |
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2415.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2418.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
該女性受數者完成活產者 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2418.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2420.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
應及第二十九條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2420.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2422.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
處理同一女性受數者 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2422.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2424.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
與同一治療州期內 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2424.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2426.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
不得植入由不同捐贈人捐贈之 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2426.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2428.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
申職細胞所形成的配胎 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2428.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2431.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
十一保留行政體案第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2431.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2433.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
及對應體案條文 |
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2433.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2434.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
二人工申職法 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
2434.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2435.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
就正草案等十六案 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
2435.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2436.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
尚未審查完軍令 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
2436.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2438.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
並擇其繼續審查宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
2442.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2443.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
請問委員會上次意識入 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2443.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2445.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
有無錯誤或遺漏之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2446.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2449.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
意識入確定本日會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
2449.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
2453.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
成為以審查性侵害犯罪防治法 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
2453.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2456.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
部分條文修正草案等十案 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2456.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2458.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
二審查兒童及少年 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
2458.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2460.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
性剝削防治條例部分條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
2460.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2462.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
修正草案等十七案 |
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2462.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
2465.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
以上兩案才一併說明及詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
2465.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
2468.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
接著介紹在場委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
2468.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
2469.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
蘇清泉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
2473.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
2474.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
陳昭治委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
2475.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
2476.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
黃正旭委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
2478.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
2479.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
張志仁委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
2482.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
2485.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
接著我們介紹列席官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
2485.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
2488.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
衛生福利部呂建德政務次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
2489.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
2492.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
保護服務司張靜倫副司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
2493.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
2496.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
心理健康師鄭淑欣副市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
2497.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
2500.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
醫事司卓立平檢認急診 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
2501.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
2505.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
食品藥物管理署慈嵐會副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
2507.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
2509.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
國民健康署羅素英署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
2510.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
2513.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
社會及家庭署劉松彥科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
2514.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
2517.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
司法院刑事廳黃湘盈法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
2519.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
2522.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
法務部陳臻慧主任檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
2524.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
2529.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
內政部警政署防治署徐坤榮副組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
2533.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
2535.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
鄭氏偉科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
2536.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
2537.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
莊明雄科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
2538.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
2542.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
刑事警察局預防科莊明雄科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
2545.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
2550.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
數位發展部資源管理師陳文良副市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
2552.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
2555.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
法治處陳明宏專門委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
2556.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
2560.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
數位產業署黃雅萍副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
2562.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
2568.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
國家通訊傳播委員會網際網路傳播辦公室李佳麟檢認事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
2570.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
2574.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
教育部學生事務及特殊教育師許家謙副市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
2576.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
2579.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
國民級學前教育署易秀芝副組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
2581.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
2584.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
行政院人事行政總處組 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
2586.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
2587.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
人力處 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
2588.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
2590.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
與易志專門委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
2591.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
2596.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
勞動部勞動條件及就業評等師顧家榮專門委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
2597.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
2599.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
職業安全衛生署 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
2599.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
2602.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
業配節認記證 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
2606.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
2610.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
現在請提案委員說明提案要止每位委員兩分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
2612.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
2613.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
請張志榮委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
2622.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
2625.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
好謝謝主席各位委員各位官員大家早 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
2625.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
2629.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
本席今天提案修正兒童及少年性剝削 |
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2629.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
2630.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
防治 |
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2631.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
2634.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
拼撥缺條例部分條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
2634.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
2637.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
核心在於全面加重刑責 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
2638.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
2640.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
嚴懲非法持有 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
2640.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
2643.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
斬斷數位性暴力的產業鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
2643.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
2648.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
希望說未來可以徹底阻住現行法律的漏洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
2648.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
2650.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
保護兒少的身心安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
2650.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
2652.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
以人格健全發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
2652.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
2657.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
大家都知道近年來數位科技網路社群迅速發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
2657.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
2660.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
連帶兒少性剝削的影像 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
2660.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
2665.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
散佈販賣甚至客製化的問題日益猖獗 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
2665.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
2670.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
此類犯罪具備一次受害終身恐懼的嚴重後果 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
2671.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
2675.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
對兒少造成極遠的身心靈受創 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
2675.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
2678.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
然而現行的法規卻沒有正當理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
2678.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
2681.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
對於沒有正當理由持有付費購買 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
2682.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
2685.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
甚至製造或散佈兒少性影像的處罰力道 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
2686.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
2688.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
沒有非常的重 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
2688.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
2691.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
所以我們今天提出三大修法重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
2691.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
2694.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
第一全面提高刑度的門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
2694.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
2698.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
第二加重持有及付費購買的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
2698.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
2702.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
第三強化共犯產業鏈的究責 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
2702.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
2707.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
尤其針對利用兒少性剝削牟利的團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
2707.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
2709.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
或者是平台推廣業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
2709.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
2711.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
我們加重懲罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
2711.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
2715.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
展現國人對數位性犯罪零容忍的決心 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
2715.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
2718.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
最後 兒少是國家的未來 |
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2718.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
2723.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
保護孩子們免於性剝削是全體國人不可退讓的底線 |
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2723.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
2728.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
希望透過本次修法做到健全社會防治網 |
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2728.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
2731.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
徹底根除兒少性剝削的產業鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
2731.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
2733.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
懇請今天各位委員支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
2733.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
2735.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
謝謝 |
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2735.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
2741.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
接下來請衛生福利部呂建德次長病案說明時間10分鐘 |
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2750.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
2753.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
主席各位委員女士先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
2753.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
2754.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
大家早安大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
2754.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
2758.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
今天大院第11屆第五會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
2758.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
2764.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
社會福利及衛生環境司法及法治委員會第二次聯席會議審查 |
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2764.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
2768.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
性侵害犯罪防治法部分條文修正草案等10案 |
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2768.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
2774.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
以及兒童及少年性剝削防治條例部分條文修正草案等17案 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
2774.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
2777.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
本部誠邀列席報告深感榮幸 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
2777.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
2779.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
那麼也請委員不吝指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
2779.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
2784.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
有關委員凝聚性侵害犯罪防治法部分條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
2784.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
2786.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
本部意見綜合如下 |
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2786.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
2788.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
委員岳元芝等19人 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
2788.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
2790.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
委員黃建豪等23人 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
2790.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
2792.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
委員魯明哲等18人 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
2792.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
2794.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
委員黃建豪等23人 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
2794.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
2796.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
委員王宇明等20人 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
2796.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
2798.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
建議徵訂 |
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2798.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
2804.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
由中央警政主管機關會同中央主管機關法務主管機關及 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
2804.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
2810.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
之下市縣市主管機關建立加害人個人資訊分級公開及通知制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
2810.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
2814.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
考量性侵害為刑事案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
2814.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
2819.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
加害人是否再犯或累犯之餘涉及司法機關之認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
2819.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
2825.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
有現行本法第52條已經規定判決有罪確定的加害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
2825.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
2828.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
台灣常立金同企者 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
2829.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
2833.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
該管警察機關得將其身份資訊公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
2833.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
2837.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
因此是否認定類似規範應審慎評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
2837.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
2840.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
有加害人個人資料公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
2840.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
2844.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
上設少年刑事案件以及揭示的個資 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
2844.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
2847.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
更生保護及關戶資料建檔及公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
2847.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
2849.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
登記報到及查閱 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
2849.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
2851.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
社區處理等相關業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
2851.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
2853.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
建議因通盤考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
2853.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
2855.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
2855.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
2857.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
2856.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
2858.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
黃建豪等23人建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
2858.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
2860.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
增訂若公開資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
2860.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
2862.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
維護公共利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
2862.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
2864.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
或示警潛在受害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
2864.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
2866.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
保障知情權者 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
2866.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
2873.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
不受不得報導或記載有被害人知姓名或其他族資 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
2873.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
2876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
識別身份資訊限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
2876.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
2883.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
並刪除被害人死亡時由主管機關衡量公共權益之免法規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
2883.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
2886.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
為免被害人身份資訊公開後 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
2886.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
2892.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
再遭二度傷害以及被害人人身安全侵害疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
2892.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
2894.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
建議是否也再行斟酌 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
2894.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
2896.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
第三 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
2896.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
2898.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
2898.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
2900.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
等17人 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
2900.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
2902.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
2902.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
2904.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
增訂針對零至6歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
2904.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
2906.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
兒童為性侵害犯罪行為者 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
2906.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
2908.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
經起訴處後 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
2910.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
2912.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
於一個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
2912.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
2916.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
將起訴書函送中央社政主管機關及教育主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
2916.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
2918.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
於全管系統建檔 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
2918.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
2920.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
增訂司法機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
2920.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
2922.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
檢查機關通報被害人所屬學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
2922.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
2924.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
僱用機構或家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
2924.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
2926.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
被告所屬機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
2926.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
2928.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
機關購物之規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
2928.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
2934.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
查家庭暴力及性侵害電子資料庫管理使用辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
2934.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
2936.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
第四條明訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
2936.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
2942.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
司法院及法務部須提供性侵害犯罪有關判決及相關輔導以及治療紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
2942.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
2946.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
本法第11條第一項以及第二項規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
2946.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
2950.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
司法人員在執行職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
2950.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
2954.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
如有疑似性侵害犯罪情事者 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
2954.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
2956.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
應於24小時內完成通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
2956.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
2960.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
由教育人員任用條例第31條第4項規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
2960.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
2964.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
被告為教育人員或兒少機構人員之性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
2964.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
2968.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
刑事案件機構所屬之 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
2968.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
2970.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
直轄縣市目的事業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
2970.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
2974.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
得於偵查或審判中申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
2974.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
2978.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
司法機關提供案件相關資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
2980.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
2985.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
因此原是否重複訂定司法機關通報規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
2985.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
2988.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
建議是否也予以在著 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
2988.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
2993.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
而委員有建議性侵害犯罪案件起訴書資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
2993.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
2997.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
因為涉及司法機關偵查案件資料公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
2997.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
3001.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
或提供是以本部尊重法務部的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
3002.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
3005.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
第四委員魯明哲等18人建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
3005.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
3012.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
增訂專責單位統籌並整合各機關通報處置及追蹤機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
3012.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
3017.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
查本法第6條已經明定直轄市縣市主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
3017.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
3023.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
應設立性侵害防治中心並提供相關處置服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
3023.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
3025.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
那麼本法第5條第1項也明定 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
3025.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
3030.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
中央主管機關應建立會診統計及管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
3030.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
3036.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
被害人個案資料與加害人身心治療輔導或教育資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
3036.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
3041.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
以及時提供被害人服務及加害人社區監控之用 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
3041.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
3046.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
因此是否需再重複訂定建議是否也再行斟酌 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
3046.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
3047.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
第五 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
3048.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
3050.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
委員曾任前的22人建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
3051.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
3059.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
增訂未滿16歲性侵害犯罪被害人追溯權得志成年起起算20年 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
3059.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
3064.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
那麼經查中華民國刑法第80條已經增訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
3064.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
3066.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
而上性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
3067.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
3073.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
案件被害人滿20歲以前不算不算入追溯權追溯權期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
3073.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
3078.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
並且也已經在115年7月7日經大院三讀通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
3078.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
3082.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
因此是並無需再於本法重複規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
3082.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
3083.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
第六 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
3083.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
3085.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
委員陳培宇等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
3086.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
3090.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
委員張雅玲等16人建議參酌詐欺犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
3091.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
3093.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
違反法律規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
3103.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
3104.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
行政處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
3104.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
3106.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
擴大限制接取情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
3106.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
3109.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
強化性侵害被害人監控等規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
3109.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
3113.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
考量實務的運作本部競表支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
3113.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
3121.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
而有關多委員凝聚兒童及少年性剝削防治條例部分條文修正草案本部意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
3121.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
3122.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
綜合說明如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
3122.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
3124.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
第一委員陳庭菲等17人 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
3124.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
3129.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
委員廖先祥等17人建議提高以招募等方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
3129.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
3132.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
使兒童或少年為性交 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
3132.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
3135.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
猥褻之行為並供人觀覽者 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
3135.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
3141.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
拍攝製造散佈持有兒少性影像者之刑罰及罰金部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
3143.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
3146.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
市設行事量刑和平行 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
3146.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
3149.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
因此本部也尊重司法機關意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
3149.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
3152.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
第二委員徐欣瑩等27人 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
3153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
3156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
委員張志倫等18人建議提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
3156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
3157.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
18歲以上知人 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
3159 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
3162 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
與16歲以上未滿18歲知人 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
3162 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
3165 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
唯有對價性交或猥褻行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
3165 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
3169 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
以引誘招募強暴脅迫等方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
3169 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
3176 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
使兒童或少年為對價性交或猥褻行為者之刑罰及罰金部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
3176 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
3182 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
設與刑罰妨礙性自主罪之刑事量刑和平行 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
3182 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
3185 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
我們也尊重司法機關的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
3185 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
3187 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
第三委員張志倫等18人建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
3187 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
3193 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
增訂發起主持操縱或指揮犯罪組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
3193 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
3195 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
而犯本條例第32條 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
3195 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
3200 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
以及36條、38條、40條、45條之罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
3200 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
3204 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
加重其刑責及罰金規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
3204 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
3207 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
因市設組織犯罪防治條例相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
3207 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
3210 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
我們予以尊重法務部之意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
3210 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
3213 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
第四委員蔡其昌等17人 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
3213 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
3215 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
委員黃秀芳等18人 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
3215 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
3216 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
委員羅廷瑋等18人 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
3216 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
3219 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
委員林怡瑾等19人 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
3219 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
3221 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
委員林靜憲等18人 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
3221 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
3223 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
委員邱毅寅等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
3224.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
3226.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
委員李越勤等21人 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
3226.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
3227.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
委員王玉明等19人 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
3227.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
3228.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
委員范雲等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
3228.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
3230.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
委員陳培宇等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
3230.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
3232.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
委員翁曉琳等18人 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
3232.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
3234.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
委員張雅琳等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
3234.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
3235.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
3236.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
3241.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
增訂兒少性剝削案件被害人滿20歲以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
3241.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
3246.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
不散入追溯權期間之規定本部競表之時 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
3246.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
3252.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
至有關增訂不適用民法第197條 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
3252.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
3257.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
第一項因侵權行為所申知損害賠償請求權時效規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
3257.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
3260.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
也予以尊重法務部之意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
3261.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
3263.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
委員林越勤等21人 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
3263.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
3264.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
委員王玉明等19人 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
3264.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
3266.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
委員陳培宇等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
3266.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
3267.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
委員翁曉琳等18人 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
3267.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
3269.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
委員張雅琳等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
3269.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
3273.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
建議增訂兒童及少年性剝削案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
3273.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
3278.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
審判不得公開之規定本部競表之時 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
3278.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
3280.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
第六委員陳培宇等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
3280.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
3281.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
委員林越勤等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
3281.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
3283.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
委員張雅琳等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
3283.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
3287.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
建議增訂網路業者第三人免責權 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
3287.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
3290.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
被害人有安置必要時 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
3290.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
3293.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
得交付適當之親屬主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
3293.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
3296.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
續以追蹤輔導之被害人情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
3296.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
3298.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
範第36條第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
3298.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
3299.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
第36條第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
3299.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
3301.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
以及第二項之未遂犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
3301.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
3304.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
第38條第一項未遂犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
3304.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
3305.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
第40條第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
3305.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
3310.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
第二項經判決有罪或緩起訴處分確定者 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
3310.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
3312.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
應接受輔導教育等規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
3312.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
3314.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
本部競表之時 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
3314.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
3317.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
本部承大院各委員之指教及監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
3317.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
3319.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
在此進制謝陳 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
3319.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
3323.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
並請各位委員對本部繼續予以支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
3326.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
3329.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
現在開始詢答座以下宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
3329.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
3334.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
依有關本次會議各項數量資料均列入記錄刊登公報二 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
3334.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
3337.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
本會委員詢答時間6加2分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
3337.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
3339.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
列席委員4加1分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
3339.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
3342.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
30點半截止發言登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
3344.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
3347.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
委員如有書面質詢請善會前提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
3347.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
3349.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
於起不受理 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
3349.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
3351.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
暫定10點半休息10分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
3351.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
3356.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
沒有尋釐本日不處理臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
3356.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
3361.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
現在請登記第一位委員陳昭之進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
3367.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
3368.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
3368.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
3369.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
有請呂次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
3369.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
3370.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
有請呂次 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
3375.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
3376.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
陳委員早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
3376.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
3377.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
次長早 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
3377.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
3379.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
次長今日有一些熱門新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
3379.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
3381.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
有一則到今天都還一直在報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
3381.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
3383.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
就是台灣有一個女藝人 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
3383.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
3386.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
她因為毀損日本國保而被捕 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
3386.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
3390.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
日本電視台就直接公布她的姓名跟照片 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
3390.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
3394.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
台灣民眾我看他們的反應紛紛是叫好 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
3394.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
3400.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
甚至開始拿台灣對於過去保護性侵犯者來做對比 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
3400.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
3404.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
所以幾年前就開始有人在提點子平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
3404.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
3408.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
提案要求公布性侵犯者的照片 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
3408.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
3410.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
那當時衛福部的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
3410.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
3411.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
回應是這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
3411.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
3412.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
在右邊這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
3412.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
3415.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
他說可能侵害基本人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
3415.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
3418.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
愉悅的維護社會安全安寧的必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
3418.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
3421.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
次長在日本毀壞古蹟 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
3421.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
3424.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
姓名照片要全部公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
3424.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
3426.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
在台灣性侵犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
3426.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
3429.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
政府還要幫忙故隱私講人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
3429.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
3432.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
你覺得台灣社會可以接受嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
3433.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3436.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
包委員非常感謝委員對這個問題的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
3436.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3437.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
我想這個確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
3437.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3441.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
我想有各國的民情相關的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
3441.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3444.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
那我現在先簡單先跟委員回報一下就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
3444.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3447.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
我們當初我們現在這個立法其實最主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
3447.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3451.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
其實並不完全只是這個加害人的問題而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
3451.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3453.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
而且其實也有那個被害人的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
3453.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3457.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
因為這裡面他的整個相關隱私權的一個保障等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3457.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3458.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
我想這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
3458.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3461.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
次長你看被最加害人的部分來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
3461.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
3463.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3464.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3469.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
這邊我想我們也會來聽各方意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
3469.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3471.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
我想這一點我們確實我們可以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
3471.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
3474.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
現在黨醫也同意就公告向往啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3474.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
3478.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
大家覺得狼一座甚至性騷性侵也都上網啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3478.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3479.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
這麼專業的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3479.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3481.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
那今天我們對比嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
3481.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3484.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
他在國外被公安這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
3485.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3487.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
公開他的姓名照片啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
3487.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3491.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
在台灣更嚴重的性侵犯都在保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
3491.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3493.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
包委員我能不能簡單回覆一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
3493.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3495.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
其實我們的一個統計數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
3495.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3499.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
其實性侵害很多其實事實上是大概是就是熟人所為 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
3499.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3501.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
那這裡面會有一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3501.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3503.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
現在目前一旦公佈的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
3503.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3505.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
其實我現在就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3505.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3507.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
剛剛說就會有一個連帶的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3507.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3510.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
次長您談的理由我都了解聽過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
3510.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3513.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
但是很多法案很多做法就是要檢討 |
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3515.66 |
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我們就要繼續看 |
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3515.66 |
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3518.66 |
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別的國家怎麼不擔心你同樣的顧慮呢 |
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3518.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3521.66 |
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那我們來看一下民進黨執政十年 |
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3521.66 |
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3522.66 |
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2016年開始 |
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3522.66 |
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3525.66 |
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性侵通報案件都是大概平均都破萬 |
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3525.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3528.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
大概兩三年那個八九千大概就是疫情期間 |
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3528.66 |
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3530.66 |
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那個疫情期間通報數較低 |
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3530.66 |
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3532.66 |
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但是我們心裡都有數啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3532.66 |
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3535.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
性侵案的那個通報數本來就存在很多的黑數 |
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3535.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3536.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
對沒錯黑數問題 |
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3536.66 |
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3538.66 |
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次長大概也會同意 |
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3538.66 |
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3540.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
那我看到今天排審的這個法案 |
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3540.66 |
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3542.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
法案憂危提出說要公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3542.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3544.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
性侵擬犯的姓名跟照片 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
3544.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3547.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
揭露加害者的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3547.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3548.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
那您到現在 |
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3548.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3552.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
衛福部到現在還是持反對的意見嗎 |
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3552.66 |
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3553.66 |
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我想要就是 |
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3553.66 |
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3555.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
次長比較明確一點 |
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3556.23 |
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3559.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
我們報告委員我們現在目前區分兩個層次 |
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3559.23 |
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3561.23 |
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第一個就是我剛剛說就是說 |
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3561.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3563.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
確實還是我們多方評估 |
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3563.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3565.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
就是說對於公告之後 |
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3565.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3566.23 |
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公佈之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3566.23 |
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3569.23 |
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有一些理由可以用十年二十年 |
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3569.23 |
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3571.23 |
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但是還是要檢討啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3571.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3573.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
那如果說有另外還有一個就是說 |
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3573.23 |
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3575.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
如果有這一個 |
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3575.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3577.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
他有明顯高罪犯的這個加害人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3577.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3579.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
那我們這裡面其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3579.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3580.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
就是他如果接受輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3580.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3581.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
鑑定評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3581.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3583.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
如果有罪犯之虞 |
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3583.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3586.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
我們事實上也確實可以申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
3586.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3589.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
法院的裁定加以強制治療跟社區隔離 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
3589.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3591.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
我想這個裡面其實是有一些 |
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3591.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3593.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
次長你的意思說可以檢討對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
3593.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3594.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
對沒錯 |
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3594.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
3595.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
那加害人如果說他 |
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3595.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
3598.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
沒有按照規定來強制治療的話 |
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3598.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
3600.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
而且有逃亡或藏匿 |
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| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
3602.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
同期刑刑我們警察機關也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
3602.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
3604.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
就公告他的身份資訊 |
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3604.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
3605.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
因為他如果有逃亡之虞 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
3605.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
3607.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
我想跟次長繼續討論 |
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3607.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
3609.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
性侵犯被深惡痛絕了 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
3609.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
3610.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
大概沒有人會同情 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
3610.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
3611.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
當然當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
3611.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
3613.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
但是台灣已經這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
3613.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
3615.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
被民進黨實質廢死了 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
3615.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
3617.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
我們台灣就是空有死刑 |
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3617.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
3619.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
但事實上不可能去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
3619.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
3621.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
以至於很多人想要用 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
3621.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
3623.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
最近你也聽到公投的這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
3623.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
3625.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
以至於很多人想要用 |
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3625.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
3628.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
邊刑來伺候這個性侵犯 |
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3628.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
3632.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
但邊刑被說是不人道違反人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
3632.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
3634.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
那麼請問部長你認為 |
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3634.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
3636.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
化學去世可行嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
3637.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
3639.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
你看看這張圖表 |
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3639.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
3641.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
就是說你看韓國 美國 歐洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
3641.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
3643.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
都有針對性侵犯的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
3643.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
3647.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
用化學去世的一個相關的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
3647.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
3648.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
邊刑本身是處罰 |
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3648.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
3650.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
但化學去世有些國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
3650.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
3652.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
認為它是一種治療 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
3652.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
3653.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
我想請教次長 |
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3653.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
3655.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
你認為台灣可以討論嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
3655.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
3657.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
可行嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
3657.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
3658.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
保安委員 我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
3658.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
3660.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
現在目前在國外確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
3660.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
3662.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
有一些相關的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
3662.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
3663.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
那我覺得這裡面 |
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3663.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
3664.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
會有幾個部分 |
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3664.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
3665.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
第一個就是說 |
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3665.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
3667.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
你如果增加化學或物理去世 |
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3667.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
3668.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
邊刑等等這些 |
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3668.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
3671.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
這個其實也不光是本部 |
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3671.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
3673.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
其實這一點會確實牽涉到 |
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3673.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
3675.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
我們國家的刑事政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
3675.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
3677.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
那這裡面我覺得應該 |
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3677.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
3680.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
可能要來多方討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
3680.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
3682.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
那另外還有一個就是說 |
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3683.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
3684.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
按照國外的經驗 |
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3684.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
3686.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
化學去世這個可能只是對 |
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3686.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
3688.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
於顧卓行的戀童症加害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
3688.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
3689.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
比較有效 |
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3689.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
3690.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
可以 次長 |
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3690.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
3692.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
我們可以繼續討論 |
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3692.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
3693.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
我的意思說 |
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3693.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
3695.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
這個生物痛絕的犯刑 |
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3695.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
3697.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
那死刑不可能了 |
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3697.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
3698.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
死刑不可能了 |
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3698.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
3699.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
然後現在就是 |
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3699.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
3701.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
剩下有人要邊刑 |
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3701.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
3703.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
那我認為邊刑可能爭議 |
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3703.07 |
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3704.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
也很大 |
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3706.07 |
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就是說你要用這些理由 |
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3708.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
那其實前幾年也有民眾 |
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3708.07 |
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3711.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
連署提案性侵犯要化學去世了 |
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3711.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
3713.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
那當時法務部引用聯合國的 |
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3713.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
3714.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
禁止酷刑公約 |
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3714.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
3715.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
在右邊這個地方 |
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3715.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3717.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
他認為這個 |
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3717.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
3719.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
認為有人權疑慮 |
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3719.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
3720.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
但是有人權 |
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| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
3723.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
那為什麼歐美韓國等都在執行 |
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3723.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3725.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
而且我也覺得不要一天到晚 |
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3725.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
3727.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
拿聯合國的公約來擋 |
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3727.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3729.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
因為聯合國根本不理台灣 |
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3729.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3730.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
因為距台灣於門外 |
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3730.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
3732.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
我們一直要引用他的東西 |
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3732.07 |
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但事實上其他國家也在做 |
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可能他們的解釋 |
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並不認為這是酷刑公約 |
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另外我想次長你也可能明白 |
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可能就是說化學去世本身 |
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是可逆的 |
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3743.07 |
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它是可逆的 |
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reversible |
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就是說你把藥停掉之後 |
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它當然本身可能會壓抑性衝動 |
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3751.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
在性能 勃起能力等等 |
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但是它停藥之後是可以恢復的 |
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3756.07 |
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那這個費用甚至那是藥嘛 |
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3757.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
荷爾蒙嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
你甚至可以要病人這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
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3760.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
對不起犯人來自費使用 |
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3760.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3762.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
那法務部也說根據國外警員 |
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3764.07 |
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就如你剛剛所回答的 |
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3764.07 |
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3765.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
化學去世 |
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3765.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3768.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
僅對固著型的戀童症加害人比較有效 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
3768.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3770.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
那台灣是不是可以就從這一群 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
3770.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
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就是有戀童癖的性侵加害者來試行看看 |
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| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3777.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
那兒童的定義是12歲以下嘛 |
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| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3779.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
請次長看右邊這張圖表 |
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3779.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3782.07 |
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按照統計每年台灣也很可怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3782.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3784.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
也有一千件兒童性侵害 |
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| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3787.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
這個下面最深藍的是6歲以下 |
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| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3788.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
然後還有6到12歲 |
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| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3790.07 |
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那這樣看起來大概是一千件啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
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那是不是請外部跟法務部 |
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| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
一起來研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3794.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
提出修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3794.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3796.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
對這一類型的這個加害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3796.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3799.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
進行化學去世的一個治療 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3802.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
既然法務部也曾經引用說 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3805.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
根據國外有在執行的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3806.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
是對某一群 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3806.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3808.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
尤其說剛剛您提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3812.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
這個固著型戀童症是相對有效 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3812.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3813.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
但是我所謂的化學去世 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3816.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
不是說它可以免除其他的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3819.07 |
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你要加圖形嗎或是其他的治療 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3819.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3821.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
其他形式的治療都不是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3823.07 |
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就是一個來取代所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3823.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3826.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
所以我想是請問這個衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3826.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3828.07 |
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可能可以來考慮嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3828.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3831.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
跟法務部一起來討論這個可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3831.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3833.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
那個報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3833.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3835.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
我覺得這個任何的所謂性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3835.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3836.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
這個基本上是 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3837.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3839.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
是法理不容 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3839.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3841.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
那實在是很沒人性 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3841.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3842.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
尤其還殺害的 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3842.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3844.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
性侵加殺害根本不容原諒 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3844.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3847.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
這個是對一個當事人家庭造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3847.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3849.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
我覺得這個是天理不容 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3849.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3851.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
但是現在目前這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3851.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3852.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
剛剛委員提到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3852.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3853.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
我們現在目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3853.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3854.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
我們會很多很多方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3854.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3856.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
包括化學去世等這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3856.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3859.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
可是因為就像我剛剛也跟委員報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3859.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3861.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
這個限制到我們國家的刑事政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3861.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3863.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
那這個我們是不是可以允許 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3863.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3864.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3864.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3865.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
你們可以考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3865.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3866.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
死刑不成 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3866.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3867.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
邊刑你們可能意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3867.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3869.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
說不定意見更大 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3869.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3871.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
然後現在的化學去世是個方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3871.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3872.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
可以討論了 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3872.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3874.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
我們要用20年來的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3874.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3875.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
一再的再用 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3875.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3876.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
那用多少年 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3876.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3877.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
就是有些我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3877.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3881.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
那事實上輕輕犯也沒有減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3881.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3883.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
黑數很多我們都清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3883.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3885.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
可能比想像的更嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3885.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3887.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
我希望衛福部能夠好好思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3887.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3889.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
是不是用增加這個方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3889.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3890.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
你也可以拿到治療 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3890.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3891.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
我們是不是也可以允許我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3891.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3892.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3892.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3893.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
它是可利的 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3893.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3894.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
現在刑事政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3894.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3895.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
刑事政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3895.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3896.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
並不是傷害他終身 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3896.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3897.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
是可逆的 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3897.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3899.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
好謝謝次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3899.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3901.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
感謝陳導致委員的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3901.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3902.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3902.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3904.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
好謝謝陳導致委員的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
3904.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3906.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
也謝謝次長的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3906.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3908.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
下一位請林月芹 趙薇發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
3915.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3916.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
3916.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3917.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
請司法院的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
3918.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3919.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
請司法院的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
3926.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3928.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
好 方法更早 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3928.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3930.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
我想性影像犯罪防治 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3930.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3932.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
是需要各部會一起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3932.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3935.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
才能夠真正把被害人接住 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3935.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3937.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
那本會其實大概也去安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3937.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3939.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
去考察我們的性影像中心 |
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3939.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3942.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
就是希望能夠把在實務上 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3942.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3945.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
再有沒有斷點能夠銜接起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3945.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3947.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
今天質詢也是希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3947.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3948.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
各部會的工作 |
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3948.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3951.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
看看這樣子的這張黃幅網 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3951.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3955.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
到底有沒有真正的運作起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3955.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3956.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
好 先問 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3956.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3959.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
我們來看兩個具體的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3959.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3962.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
第一案是被告試圖將手機 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3962.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
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伸入一名女性的群體進行偷拍 |
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當場就被發現了 |
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而且被攔阻了 |
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沒有偷拍成功 |
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那第二個案例是被告 |
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將手機伸入一名穿著運動短褲的 |
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男學生的褲管下方 |
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可是成功拍攝到一張 |
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男學生的大腿內側的照片 |
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這兩個案例同樣都是 |
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被告心懷不軌 |
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然後未經同意 |
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朝被害人的隱私部會進行拍攝 |
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可是卻這兩個案子的判定 |
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有點特別的是 |
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第一個案子被認定為 |
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與性行為有合理的聯想 |
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| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
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判決妨礙性隱私罪未遂成立 |
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第二案是一審的法官卻判定說 |
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因為男學生的短褲 |
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架圍寬鬆長度接近膝蓋 |
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判決書上寫說 |
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在社會通念上不會引起性慾或羞恥 |
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所以用妨礙秘密罪 |
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這兩個妨礙秘密罪 |
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事實上是可以一顆法金 |
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這兩個都是處三年以下有期徒刑 |
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可是妨礙秘密罪是可以一顆 |
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拘役獲得是三十萬以下的罰金 |
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所以 |
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4033.16 |
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要問的是 |
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4035.16 |
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刑法上對於性影響的定義是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
4038.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
客觀上足以引起性慾或羞恥 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
4041.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
這個要件落落在第一線事務上 |
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| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
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究竟是如何認定的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
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如果剛剛講這兩個 |
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| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
兩案的判決非常不相同 |
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| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
4056.14 |
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謝謝謝謝委員的提供相關的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
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其實確實我們在事務上認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
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關於偷拍的部分的話 |
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| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
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目前事務上也有法院一些相關的見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
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可以供事務學長做參考 |
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| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
當然主要是我們是針對客觀上來講 |
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| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
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針對一般人針對他這樣的舉動 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
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是否有構成呢 |
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在事務上會認為說這部分可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
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有涉及到關於會引起有關性慾 |
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或是說這個部分有被侵犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
這關於性隱私的部分 |
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有被侵犯到的部分 |
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| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
這邊我們就會比較傾向於 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
4087.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
針對這個部分性影響的部分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
這個部分的含色 |
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| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
會比較容易構成 |
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主要是指客觀上相對來講就是主觀上 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
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有可能就是會比較去跟行為人主觀上 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
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他的認知還有就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
跟一般人這邊來做一個區別 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
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之所以可能也許個案上會有不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
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可能就要看他個案上所呈現的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
那因為這一件的話剛好是剛好 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
被害人是不同的性別 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
然後可能會聯想到 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
你們是不是也有性別的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
對就是有請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
多大程度會影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
4122.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
會受到法官本身的性別偏見的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
如果因為性別不同可是我被偷拍 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
如果只是一個女性她被偷拍 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
我們的大腿的內側是就會覺得是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
會引起性慾或羞恥嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
可是男性的大腿內側就不會嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
你們有沒有注意到個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
兼法律認定的落差嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
如果跟法官講 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
4145.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
這是因為性別真的讓我覺得蠻驚訝 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
4148.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
所以我認為判斷是不是性影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
4151.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
不應該只看最後拍出來的照片 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
4152.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
夠不夠違憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
4155.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
而是要看當下的偷拍的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
4155.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
4157.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
拍哪裡從什麼角度拍 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
4157.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
4160.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
為什麼要伸進異物裡邊去拍 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
4161.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
以及整個行為是否 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
4161.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
4163.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
侵害到被害人的性隱私 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
4163.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
4165.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
所以我覺得可不可以請 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
4167.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
司法院跟法務部等相關單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
4167.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
4169.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
共同研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
4169.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
4171.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
建立更具體的實務判斷標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
4171.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
4173.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
來提供第一線的人員參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
4173.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
4175.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
是謝謝委員指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
4175.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
4176.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
可能剛剛我沒有講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
4177.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
其實目前我們實務上的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
4177.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
4179.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
也是針對這個標準會有要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
4179.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
4180.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
就如同剛才委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
4182.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
我們當然是要看犯罪行為人 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
4182.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
4184.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
在當下他的犯罪的情節 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
是不是就是已經是 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
4188.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
有涉及到被害人的隱私部位 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
4191.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
當然不會區分被害人是男或是女 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
4192.14 |
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那只是剛好這個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
4194.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
會做這兩方的比較看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
4195.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
如是法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
4197.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
但新騷擾你只要當事人覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
4197.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
4198.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
被害人覺得不舒服 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
4199.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
就可報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
4200.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
現在是兩個派 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
4201.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
一個沒有成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
4201.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
4202.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
一個成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
4204.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
可是都是伸到人家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
4208.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
下方去做這樣的一個拍攝的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
4208.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
4212.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
怎麼認定的落差是這麼的大 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
4212.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
4213.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
來謝謝法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
4213.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
4216.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
今天請警政署的莊科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
4217.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
4220.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
好請警政署莊科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
4221.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
4223.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
科長好就想請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
4223.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
4225.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
兒少性剝削相關案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
4225.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
4227.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
有專責的兒少性影像的 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
4227.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
4228.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
專責小隊來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
4228.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
4231.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
那今天如果今天被害人是成年男性 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
4231.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
4234.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
遭到偷拍或性影像外流 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
4234.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
4236.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
這類案件通常會交由哪個單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
4236.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
4237.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
來做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
4237.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
4239.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
我們的部分基本上是 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
4239.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
4240.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
回歸到一般的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
4240.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
4242.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
或者是專責的單位都有在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
4242.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
4244.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
可是我過去曾協助多位 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
4244.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
4247.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
遭那個裸聊詐騙的 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
4247.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
4249.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
男性性影像的受害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
4249.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
4250.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
根據我了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
4250.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
4252.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
實務上成年男性的案件可能會被 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
4252.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
4254.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
像你剛剛講的分到一般的 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
4254.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
4255.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
刑事偵查隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
4255.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
4256.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
可是問題來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
4256.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
4259.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
案件由一般偵查隊來承辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
4259.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
4262.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
可是被害人代號跟性影像案件的 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
4262.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
4263.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
系統權限 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
4263.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
4266.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
卻可能還要透過我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
4266.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
4267.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
婦幼單位來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
4267.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
4269.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
我覺得會權責不輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
4269.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
4271.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
所以我也想請教說 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
4271.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
4272.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
4273.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
4276.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
警政署對於數位性暴力案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
4276.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
4279.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
第一線員警的績效是怎麼計算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
4279.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
4280.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
哪些工作會被納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
4280.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
4281.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
我先回答委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
4281.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
4282.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
第一個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
4282.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
4285.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
我們為什麼會單獨由專責小組來上傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
4285.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
4288.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
是怕有些規定跟那些操作會有不熟悉 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
4288.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
4291.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
而且我們三家上傳影像都要認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
4291.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
4294.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
要符合司法聯盟認證才能上傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
4294.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
4296.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
不是說任何一個員警都能上傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
4296.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
4298.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
這也是確保影像不要外洩 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
4298.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
4299.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
那第二部分是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
4299.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
4301.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
你說偵辦的部分事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
4301.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
4304.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
我們以前也辦過類似的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
4304.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
4306.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
就是說地方受理管之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
4306.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
4308.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
如果遇到一些例如科技比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
4308.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
4309.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
困境比較高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
4309.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
4311.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
我們會由中央單位例如我們針灸大隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
4311.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
4313.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
電針大隊來做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
4313.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
4315.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
所以原則上處理案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
4315.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
4318.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
跟所謂的影像上傳是兩個不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
4318.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
4319.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
那獎勵的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
4319.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
4321.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
其實我們在去年的6月14號 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
4321.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
4323.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
我們署的防治組已經也訂了 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
4323.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
4324.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
所謂的獎勵規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
4324.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
4325.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
那都有一定的級距 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
4325.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
4327.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
包含多少被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
4327.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
4328.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
多少嫌犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
4328.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
4330.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
我們都有最高還可以專門去想到打工 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
4330.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
4332.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
我為什麼要這樣問 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
4332.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
4333.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
因為據我所知 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
4333.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
4336.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
現在警方的績效採計的往往是 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
4336.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
4338.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
以實際完成比錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
4338.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
4343.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
就是你的比詢的比錄的人數為標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
4343.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
4345.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
這樣的一個制度設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
4345.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
4348.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
完全沒有考量到性暴力受害者因為恥 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
4348.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
4352.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
因為羞恥害怕或受制於社會眼光 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
4352.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
4354.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
常不顧現身接受調查特性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
4354.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
4356.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
可是對我們來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
4356.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
4360.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
性影像很重要的是趕快要能夠下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
4360.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
4362.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
不要讓性影像再擴散 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
4362.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
4363.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
所以如果這樣做的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
4363.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
4365.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
就會形成惡性循環 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
4365.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
4369.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
讓員警缺乏誘因去協助那些越難完成比錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
4369.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
4374.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
卻越需要花時間陪伴辯護的弱勢被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
4374.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
4376.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
所以我覺得性影像犯罪的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
4376.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
4378.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
不能只看抓到多少人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
4378.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
4379.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
做了多少比錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
4379.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
4380.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
對被害人來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
4380.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
4383.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
真的更重要的是能不能趕快下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
4383.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
4384.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
來阻止擴散 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
4384.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
4386.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
降低對未來生活的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
4386.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
4387.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
所以想問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
4387.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
4391.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
你們警政署針對員警的績效的認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
4391.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
4394.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
有沒有針對不同類型案件進行設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
4394.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
4398.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
可否將員警投入大量新力的被害人保護工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
4398.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
4399.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
也納入憑良 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
4399.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
4402.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
我記得台北市上次會破創意私房 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
4402.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
4405.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
是因為一對姐妹去報案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
4405.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
4406.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
可是妹妹是受害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
4406.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
4408.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
她堅決不要去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
4408.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
4409.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
姐姐一直認為是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
4409.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
4411.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
她是一個受害狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
4411.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
4413.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
那就花了很長的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
4413.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
4414.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
如果說今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
4414.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
4416.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
只是因為要比錄能不能完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
4416.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
4417.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
而作為一個基準的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
4417.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
4419.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
我認為事實上是不切實際 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
4420.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
4422.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
否則一個員警花了這麼長時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
4424.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
4426.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
勸說好久妹妹才願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
4426.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
4428.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
進行報案的一個動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
4428.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
4431.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
所以我希望你們是不是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
4431.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
4432.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
針對不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
4432.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
4435.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
有沒有針對不同案件去進行設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
4435.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
4437.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
還是全部通體都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
4437.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
4439.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
我們其實要看個案的過程要先 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
4439.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
4440.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
如果今天這個案子 |
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其實不需要被害人發動 |
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我們事實上透過一個檢舉信就可以發動了 |
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事實上就我了解刑事局發動 |
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類似創意私房的案子 |
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並不是依照被害人筆錄在發動 |
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他可能有很多檢舉 |
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那是我是說舉例是 |
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可是實際上當初報案 |
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是因為他的案子在調查時候才發現 |
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4459.4 |
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我說你看他連要進行報案 |
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4460.4 |
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都是有點困難 |
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4462.4 |
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這個如何我們要了解一下配套 |
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4464.4 |
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基本上我們的同仁都會有 |
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4467.4 |
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因為我們每個人都會有定期訓練 |
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4467.4 |
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4468.4 |
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這部分我們會加強這一部分 |
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所以我說回去把這個給我 |
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4472.4 |
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一分之一的報告 |
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為什麼因為我覺得這件事情蠻重要 |
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4476.4 |
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甚至我剛剛講成年男性 |
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4478.4 |
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如果是成年女性 |
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4480.4 |
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不知道你們又會是在婦幼 |
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4483.4 |
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還是事實上是一般刑事偵查 |
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4486.4 |
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我們基本上婦幼或所謂的少年隊 |
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4487.4 |
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沒有分男女 |
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4489.4 |
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我們只要符合這個法規的對象 |
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4490.4 |
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我們都會偵辦 |
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4492.4 |
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都會是在一般那個偵查嗎 |
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對不見了就是說看他哪裡報案 |
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4496.4 |
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那由我們專責單位再去 |
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4496.4 |
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4498.4 |
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把案子來並案做處理 |
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4498.4 |
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4500.4 |
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好再把麻煩我剛剛提的 |
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4502.4 |
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就是請你們提供報告給我 |
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4505.4 |
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就是能不能未來做不同類型的 |
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4507.4 |
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這樣的一個考量設計 |
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4508.4 |
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是我們慢慢考量 |
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4509.4 |
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好謝謝 |
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4513.4 |
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好接下來請衛福部次長 |
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4513.89 |
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4514.89 |
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請次長 |
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4516.89 |
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今天如果一個熱心的民眾 |
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4517.89 |
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在網路上看到明顯是 |
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4520.89 |
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偷拍未經同意外流的成人性影像 |
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4523.89 |
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透過性影像中心處理中心來報案 |
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4526.89 |
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通報請問你們第一時間會怎麼處理 |
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4526.89 |
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4527.89 |
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會先收案保存這個線索 |
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4527.89 |
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4529.89 |
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還是一定會先找到被害人 |
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4532.89 |
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取得本人申訴才會處理 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
4534.89 |
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包委員我們現在目前大概有兩個機制 |
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4534.89 |
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4537.89 |
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第一個如果說是非告訴乃論的話 |
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4538.89 |
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那就不需本人申訴 |
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4540.89 |
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第二個但是另外還有一個問題就是說 |
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4540.89 |
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4542.89 |
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我們必須要確認當事人 |
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4542.89 |
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4544.89 |
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他自己本身的意願問題 |
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4545.36 |
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4547.36 |
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因為這裡面如果說 |
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4549.36 |
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如果說他有些屬於自願性的話 |
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4551.36 |
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那我們 |
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4551.36 |
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4552.36 |
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次長你這樣回答 |
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4552.36 |
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4553.36 |
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因為現在問題是 |
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4553.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
4556.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
民眾還沒有提供網址截圖申報表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
4556.36 |
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4560.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
就會先要要求判斷是成人或是兒少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
4560.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
4561.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
本人還是第三人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
4561.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
4563.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
有沒有當事人授權 |
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4563.36 |
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4565.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
可是如果選了非兒少非本人 |
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4565.36 |
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4566.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
未獲授權 |
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4566.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
4568.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
甚至可能連事證都還沒有留下 |
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4570.36 |
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就沒有辦法繼續通報 |
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4570.36 |
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4571.36 |
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可是我一直在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
4571.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
4573.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
影像最重要是趕快下架 |
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4573.36 |
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4574.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
趕快下架 |
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4574.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
4576.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
不要讓受害的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
4576.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
4578.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
他的那個擴散 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
4578.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
4579.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
所以想問是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
4579.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
4583.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
面對一個可能正在快速擴散的違法的影像 |
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4583.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
4586.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
我們第一步不是應該要確認被害人身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
4586.36 |
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4587.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
4587.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
4590.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
我覺得不應該只是急著要確認被害人身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
4590.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
4594.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
而是要先對性影像做出預防處理 |
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4594.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
4596.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
避免日後造成當事人跟大家傷害 |
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4596.36 |
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4598.36 |
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就不要再讓他擴散下去 |
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4598.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
4600.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
尤其這次我覺得衛福部預告修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
4600.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
4603.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
讓更多數位的性暴力業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4603.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
4605.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
納入到性影像處理中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
4605.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4608.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
那是不是先從行政流程開始改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
4608.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
4610.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
不是在你的表單裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
4610.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
4613.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
一定要去確認這幾個要項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
4613.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4614.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
要兒少、要本人 |
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4614.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
4616.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
還有有沒有獲授權 |
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4616.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4617.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
如果我是路人甲 |
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4617.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
4618.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
我看他這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
4618.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
4620.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
我是不是希望趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
4620.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4622.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
我不知道哪一個受害的女性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
4622.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
4626.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
所以我路人甲我希望他趕快阻斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
4626.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4628.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
所以讓通報先進來 |
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4628.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4629.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
專業判斷往後移 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4629.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4632.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
讓被害人跟或者是協助我們進行性影像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4632.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4634.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
防治的熱心民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
4634.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4637.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
不需要個別系統當中疲於奔命 |
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4637.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
4638.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
我希望你們這邊 |
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4638.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
4640.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
應該要去處理這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
4640.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
4641.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
再來我也收到幾位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4641.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4643.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
未成年受害者的陳情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4643.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4645.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
被害人因為擔心性影像事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4645.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
4646.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
在校園曝光 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4646.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
4648.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
希望不要在校內諮商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4648.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4650.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
可是卻被社工要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4650.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4651.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
要先走校內輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
4651.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
4654.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
然後最後只能自費尋求校外協助 |
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4654.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
4656.36 |
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本來政府就應該要去協助他 |
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4656.36 |
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4657.36 |
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可是怎麼會變成說 |
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4657.36 |
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你一定要校內 |
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4658.36 |
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我就不希望讓別人知道 |
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而且校內更會讓同學們 |
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4662.36 |
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或是師長們知道 |
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4663.36 |
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4664.36 |
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所以想請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4664.36 |
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4667.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
現行針對未成年性影像受害者的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4667.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4669.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
輔導流程到底是什麼樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4669.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4671.36 |
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有沒有要求第一線社工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4671.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4674.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
優先轉介校內諮商資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4674.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4675.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
如果硬性要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4675.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4677.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
第一線為什麼會出現這樣失誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4677.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4679.36 |
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是不是學生沒有相對應的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4679.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4681.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
心理輔導資源可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4681.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4683.36 |
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OK 我想確實陳如委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4683.36 |
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4684.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
您所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4684.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4685.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
這個其實一般 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4685.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
4686.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
如果說是發生在校內的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
4686.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4687.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
我們一般 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4687.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4689.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
總之要教育得而決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
4689.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
4690.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
我要走校內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
4690.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4692.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
我真的就是要擔心讓人家知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
4692.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
4693.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
我們會遵照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
4693.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4694.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
我們盡量以這個原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
4694.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4695.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
但是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
4695.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4697.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
委員您自己也是社工出身 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
4697.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4699.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
這裡面其實我們也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
4699.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
4702.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
就是跟社工這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
4702.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
4704.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
他的整個評估處遇的一個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
4704.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
4706.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
師長我只是覺得你們要檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
4706.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
4707.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
因為無論是前端的通報 |
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4707.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
4710.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
後續的下架或被害人的心理支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
4710.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4711.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
都應該檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
4711.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
4713.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
重新檢討我們現行制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
4713.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
4716.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
有沒有不必要的程序門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
4716.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
4719.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
阻斷了我們對受害人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
4719.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
4720.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
最佳的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
4720.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4724.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
這個我真的事實上是很難以接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4724.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4727.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
前面談的是新影像發生後的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
4727.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4728.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
可是兒少興剝削的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4728.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4730.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
持續攀升 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4730.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4732.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
前端預防同樣重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4732.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4734.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
可是接下來我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4734.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4736.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
不好意思 我今天要請教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4736.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4738.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
OK 好 感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4738.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4742.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
因為每次談數位暴力的防治成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4742.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4745.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
教育部都會告訴我們辦了幾場講座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4745.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4747.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
比賽做了多少教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4747.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4748.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
可是部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4748.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4750.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
那個教育部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4750.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4751.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4751.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4754.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
請教育部許家謙副市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4757.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4759.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
辦的活動不等於宣導有效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4759.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4760.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
這些教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4760.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4762.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
第一線教師到底有沒有使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4762.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4765.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
學生接受宣導後對數位性暴力的認知 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4765.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4766.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
辨識能力有沒有提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4766.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4768.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
這些宣導比賽究竟如何落地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4768.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4771.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
變成具體可量化的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4771.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4773.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
可被檢驗的數據成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4773.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4775.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
那教育部有沒有實際的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4776.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4777.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
因為我們很常說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4777.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4778.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
畫一張海報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4779.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4781.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
然後我們畫比賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4781.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4782.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
畫比賽真的就會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4782.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4783.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
改變我的觀念嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4784.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4786.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
那個比賽的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4786.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4788.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
應該是提高學生的一個興趣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4788.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4790.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
那至於說他宣導成效的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4790.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4792.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
其實我們有委託那個大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4792.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4794.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
來幫我們做相關的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4794.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4795.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
那今天我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4795.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4797.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
做了前車和後車調查之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4797.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4798.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
我們有發現說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4798.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4801.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
其實他們針對那個暴力防治的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4801.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4803.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
相關的認知是有提升的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4803.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4804.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
當然這個還是不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4804.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4806.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
我們未來會再持續的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4806.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4808.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
那我們最近比較新的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4808.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
4809.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
我們有開發一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4809.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4810.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
曾經式的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4810.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4812.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
互動式的遊戲教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4812.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4814.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
那這個部分可以讓青少年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
4814.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4817.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
透過遊戲的這樣一個互動的機制之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4817.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4819.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
從裡面來學習到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4819.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4820.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
面對這樣的一個情境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4820.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4823.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
要怎麼樣去尋得求助的管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4823.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4825.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
因為英國、澳洲都有針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
4825.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4828.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
耳哨在面對數位性暴力的行為模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4828.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4831.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
認知情況進行來定期追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4831.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4833.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
然後也能夠去掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4833.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4836.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
目前孩子們在網路的使用經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4836.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4837.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
為什麼我要這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4837.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4838.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
甚至我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4840.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4843.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
想了解教育部到底有沒有從民間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4843.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4845.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
或者是社政單位那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4845.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4848.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
知道說現在孩子這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4848.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4851.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
為什麼會有被性剝削的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4851.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4853.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
能不能知道真實的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4853.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4855.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
從案例裡面再回推說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4855.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4857.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
我要怎麼去防治 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4857.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4859.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
如果你都不知道真實的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4859.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
4861.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
就像我們講被詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
4861.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
4863.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
那用什麼手法詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
4863.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
4864.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
那你如果都不知道這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
4864.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
4865.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
詐騙的手法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
4865.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
4867.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
你沒有辦法去防範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
4867.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
4868.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
所以我不知道說 |
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如果剛剛提到說 |
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4872.34 |
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你們有定期調查你們的成效 |
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我希望提供給我看為什麼 |
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4876.34 |
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也要問的是你們調查結果 |
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到底有沒有去調整你們的宣導真正 |
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因為為什麼我這樣提 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
4880.34 |
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4884.34 |
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我過去在推所謂的安全教育 |
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常常就看教育部的很多方法 |
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不是什麼交通安全拔河比賽 |
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就交通安全跳繩比賽 |
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我在想說這些東西 |
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4893.34 |
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4895.34 |
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到底能不能改變交通安全的認知 |
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一樣的像這樣子 |
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4898.34 |
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如果你不知道姓剝削的案例的話 |
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4898.34 |
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4901.34 |
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你怎麼去回推說你要怎麼去防治 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
4901.34 |
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4905.34 |
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所以也請你們把這些相關的你們做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
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怎麼調整 |
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4910.34 |
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然後一個月內給我們辦公室相關的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
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謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
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4913.34 |
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那委員有建議針對案例的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
4913.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
4916.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
來轉化成相關的宣導教材的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
4916.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
4919.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
這個部分我們回去也會再進行一個研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
4919.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
4921.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
那相關的資料我們再提供給委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
4921.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
4922.34 |
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再麻煩教育部謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
4924.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
4927.19 |
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好謝謝玉琴召委的諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
4927.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
4930.19 |
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也謝謝各級官員的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
4932.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
下一位請陳建輝委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
4938.69 |
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4939.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
4939.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
4941.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
想請呂次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
4941.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
4944.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
還有我們的新建司副市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
4945.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
4947.27 |
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好有請次長跟市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
4948.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
4950.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
陳委員早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
4952.05 |
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這邊我想問因為之前呢 |
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4952.05 |
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4954.05 |
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我們不管是時部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
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4956.05 |
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或者是卓榮泰院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
4959.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
他們在不同的場合都有特別強調 |
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4961.05 |
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因為健保總額明年破兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
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4963.05 |
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所以他們會在加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
4967.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
尤其是這個心理支持心理諮商的方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
4967.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
4972.05 |
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那我們是說預算希望可以擴增到4.29億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
4974.05 |
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可是關於加碼的細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
4976.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
我仔細的去看一下他們的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
4976.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
4977.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
都沒有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
4979.05 |
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可以請次長或是副市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
4979.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
4981.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
在這邊稍微講解一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
4981.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
4982.05 |
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好我是不是這部份先請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
4984.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
4986.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
這邊跟委員做一個報告 |
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4986.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
4989.94 |
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那因為我們的這個15歲到45歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
4989.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
4992.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
青壯世代的心理健康支持的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
4992.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
4997.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
其實我們從113年的8月1號上路之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
4997.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
4999.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
其實一直都有相當多的國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
4999.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
5001.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
來使用這部份的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
5001.94 |
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5005.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
那我們從今年的這個1月到7月為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
5005.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
5009.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
其實已經有超過5萬人來使用我們的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
5009.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
5012.94 |
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那我們在明年有編列比較多的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
5012.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
5015.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
也是考量到說使用者的確是比我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
5015.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
5018.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
以我們今年來看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
5018.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
5020.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
其實使用者會超過我們今年預估的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
5020.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
5022.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
所以我們在明年的部份 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
5022.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
5024.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
我們有做經費的一些增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
5024.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
5027.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
好所以是因為人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
5027.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
5030.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
但我們也接到非常非常多的家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
5030.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
5034.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
或者是老師校園等等跟我們反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
5034.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
5038.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
這邊也請次長還有副市長看一下數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
5038.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
5040.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
現在有很多第一線的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
5040.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
5043.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
比如說身心科的醫師發現說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
5043.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
5045.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
13到15歲的求診顯著的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
5045.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
5047.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
增加了47% |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
5047.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
5050.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
再來14歲以下的自殺通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
5050.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
5054.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
在15年間過去15年間成長了12倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
5054.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
5057.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
以及這個身心的門診裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
5057.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
5061.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
他們發現像國小生診斷出憂鬱症的佔比 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
5061.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
5063.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
佔了10% |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
5063.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
5066.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
還有一個比較傷心的數據是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
5066.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
5068.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
自殺在過去連續兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
5068.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
5071.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
列為0到17歲的第五大死因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
5071.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
5073.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
已經兩年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
5073.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
5077.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
因此我們也會想要在這邊跟官員建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
5077.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
5079.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
既然預算你們要增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
5079.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
5081.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
但具體的細節你們是預期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
5081.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
5083.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
使用的人數會變多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
5083.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
5087.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
你們會考慮把這個年紀再往下延伸嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
5087.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
5089.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
非常感謝陳委員對這個問題的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
5089.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
5093.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
其實我昨天行政院也有代表本部出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
5093.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
5096.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
那個兒少的委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
5096.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
5098.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
有兒少確實就提出這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
5098.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
5100.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
我想委員也長期關心這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
5100.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
5102.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
主要跟網路成癮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
5102.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
5106.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
還有他們所導致的網路上的這種霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
5106.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
5108.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
還有校園的霸凌問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
5108.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
5109.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
這個裡面會相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
5109.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
5111.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
所以確實像陳委員剛剛所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
5111.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
5113.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
這個身心症這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
5113.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
5115.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
還有類似像自殺的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
5115.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
5118.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
我想這個確實我們值得來關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
5118.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
5120.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
那我們是不是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
5120.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
5122.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
我知道委員現在具體建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
5122.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
5124.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
是不是向下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
5124.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
5127.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
這個部分我們是不是回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
5127.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
5129.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
我們再研議看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
5129.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
5130.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
因為這裡面也牽涉到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
5130.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
5133.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
主要校園的問題是跟教育部那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
5133.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
5137.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
我們那邊也有學生輔導那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
5137.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
5139.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
我想可能需要來做一個整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
5139.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
5140.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
我先講幾個點 |
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5143.94 |
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因為您昨天也有跟兒少委員會開會 |
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5143.94 |
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5144.94 |
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現在當然兒少全法 |
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5144.94 |
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5147.94 |
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他是以12歲作為一個少年起點 |
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他會在國中的這個階段 |
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5150.94 |
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5153.94 |
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可能突然感受到課業的壓力增加 |
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5156.94 |
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所以可能加上你剛講的網路或是霸凌 |
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5156.94 |
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5160.94 |
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所以多重的這個壓力之下 |
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所以他們會變得比較容易 |
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會有這樣子身心的狀況 |
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5168.94 |
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那後來我也去找了2025年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
5168.94 |
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5171.94 |
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在行政院有個青年諮詢委員會 |
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5173.94 |
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他其實就曾經跟你們提案說 |
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5175.94 |
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他希望可以下修到12歲 |
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5178.94 |
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並且希望常態化而且制度化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
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5181.94 |
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可是衛福部跟教育部當時的回應是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
5181.94 |
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5185.94 |
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你們希望要提升教職員跟學府人員的事能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
5185.94 |
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5187.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
然後你們希望可以建立一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
5187.94 |
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5189.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
社區精神醫療的綠色通道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
5189.94 |
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5191.94 |
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可以直接做轉介 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
5191.94 |
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5194.94 |
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可是我實際去詢問那個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
5194.94 |
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5196.94 |
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第一當然你們會希望提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
5196.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
5198.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
教職員跟學府人員的事能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
5198.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
5202.94 |
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可是最近你們過去一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
5202.94 |
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5203.94 |
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有很多新聞指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
5203.94 |
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5206.94 |
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我們面臨到最大的教師黃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
5206.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
5208.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
現在教師的缺口很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
5208.94 |
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5210.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
然後已經快要開學了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
5210.94 |
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5211.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
找不到代課老師的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
5211.94 |
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5213.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
大概高達七成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
5213.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
5215.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
因此在這麼少的人數之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
5215.94 |
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5217.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
當然他們也想要提升他們的事能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
5217.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
5221.94 |
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可是他們難免必須還要再分擔其他人的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
5221.94 |
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5223.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
這是第一個他們沒辦法做到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
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5224.94 |
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那第二呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
5224.94 |
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5226.94 |
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有一些小朋友他們會說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
5226.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
5230.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
他們當然是不想要讓學校知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
5230.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
5232.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
也就是他們如果在學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
5232.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
5234.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
去透過去轉介 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
5234.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
5238.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
那他們在校園裡面會不敢開口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
5238.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
5240.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
所以他遇到的問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
5240.94 |
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5242.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
他的問題也許沒有嚴重到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
5242.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
5244.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
一定要到身心科門診去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
5244.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
5246.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
他就是一些生學壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
5246.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
5248.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
家庭的衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
5248.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
5249.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
同學吵架 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
5249.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
5252.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
或者是這些同儕之間的壓力而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
5253.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
5255.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
他會希望比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
5255.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
5256.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
他可以自己去找 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
5256.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
5259.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
就像剛剛副市長提到的這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
5259.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
5260.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
心理支持方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
5260.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
5261.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
他就比較自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
5261.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
5264.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
他可以不需要老師同學知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
5264.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
5266.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
所以我們也先要一些數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
5266.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
5267.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
因為副市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
5267.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
5269.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
看要不要簡單的講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
5269.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
5270.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
你們從執行到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
5270.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
5273.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
每一個年齡層的使用的狀況如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
5273.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
5276.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
那他們來的原因是怎麼分佈的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
5276.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
5278.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
還有你最後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
5278.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
5279.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
你在這個心理支持裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
5279.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
5280.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
找到高風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
5280.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
5283.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
成功被轉介出去的比例是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
5283.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
5285.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
OK 我先簡單回答三個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
5285.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
5286.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
第一個其實這個方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
5286.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
5288.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
確實陳副委員剛剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
5288.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
5290.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
其實他本來是15到30歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
5290.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
5291.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
那因為成效相當好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
5291.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
5293.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
所以向上提升到45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
5293.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
5294.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
那這裡面其實他有兩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
5294.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
5297.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
他的作用主要是做為早篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
5297.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
5298.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
是early screening |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
5298.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
5300.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
所以我在問轉介率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
5300.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
5302.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
對 那轉介率我等一下請副市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
5302.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
5303.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
那另外第二點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
5303.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
5305.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
現在目前我要跟委員回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
5305.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
5306.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
現在就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
5306.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
5307.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
這裡面簽到兩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
5307.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
5309.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
因為他的定位是在early screening |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
5309.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
5311.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
可是現在目前所說的12到14歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
5311.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
5314.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
他的問題點可能跟一般 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
5314.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
5316.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
這個可能有一些不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
5316.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
5317.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
所以這個能不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
5317.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
5318.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
所以我剛剛說就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
5318.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
5319.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
這個會去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
5319.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
5320.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
現在我們跟教育部那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
5320.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
5321.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
學府中心那邊的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
5321.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
5322.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
我懂 但是有的家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
5322.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
5325.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
他剛好一個超過15歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
5325.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
5327.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
一個不到15歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
5327.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
5328.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
所以他會認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
5328.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
5330.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
他遇到相同的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
5330.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
5331.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
可是卻沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
5331.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
5334.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
用政府提供性支持去協助小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
5334.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
5335.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
OK 好 謝謝 謝委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
5335.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
5337.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
我們是不是請副市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
5337.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
5339.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
謝謝委員的提問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
5339.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
5341.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
那我大概從三個面向來回答委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
5341.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
5343.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
那第一個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
5343.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
5344.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
其實我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
5344.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
5346.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
我們衛福部跟教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
5346.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
5349.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
其實我們兩個部會的次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
5349.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
5350.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
我們都會定期針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
5350.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
5352.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
兒少的心理健康的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
5352.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
5353.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
來召開一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
5353.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
5356.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
就是會有一個交流的一個平台在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
5356.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
5358.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
那針對這個15歲以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5358.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
5360.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
就是不在我們的這個方案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
5360.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
5362.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
年齡區間的15歲以下的兒少 |
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那當時兩個部會的一個共識就是說 |
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因為學生畢竟這個生活的場域 |
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很長的一段時間是在校園 |
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所以有關於這個15歲以下的 |
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這個兒少的這個心理支持輔導 |
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等是由我們學校的三級輔導的機制 |
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來做一個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
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那如果是高風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
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5381.83 |
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需要進一步的醫療的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
5381.83 |
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5383.83 |
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就透過轉介到我們社區的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
5383.83 |
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5385.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
這個醫療的體系來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
5385.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
5387.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
進一步的這個評估跟治療 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
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這是第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
5391.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
第二個有關於這個15到45歲的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
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剛剛委員有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
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那不在這個年齡區間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
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5397.83 |
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他又不想在學校接受輔導的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
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5399.83 |
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其實衛福部這邊也有去布建 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
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5402.83 |
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我們校園以外的心理健康支持的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
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除了我們的方案之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
5404.83 |
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5407.83 |
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我們還有1925 24小時的這個免付費的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
5407.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
5409.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
這個安心專線 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
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5412.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
以及我們也是有文字協談的服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
5412.83 |
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5413.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
當然這個也是不用付錢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
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5416.83 |
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那再來的話就是我們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
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5418.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
各個縣市都有社區心理衛生中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
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裡面也有心理師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
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5422.83 |
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可以來提供這個服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
5422.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
5423.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
只要跟我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
5423.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
5425.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
新聞中心來做預約就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
5425.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
5427.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
還有一個更重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
5427.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
5428.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
我們的地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
5428.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
5430.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
我們在全國不見有396個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
5430.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
5433.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
社區心理諮商的服務的據點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
5433.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
5434.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
那其實地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
5434.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
5436.83 |
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除了我們中央的三次免費之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
5436.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
5439.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
其實地方政府有利用他們地方的財政 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
5439.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
5442.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
也來提供優惠或者是免付費的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
5442.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
5444.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
心理諮商的服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
5444.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
5446.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
等一下我再發一個公文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
5448.83 |
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希望跟你要到這些詳細的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
5448.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
5450.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
你已經執行多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
5450.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
5452.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
然後你得到的數據為何 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
5452.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
5454.83 |
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那另外回去研擬一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
5456.83 |
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是不是針對往下延伸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
5456.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
5457.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
去做一個事辦計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
5457.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5459.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
一個月內可以給我報告嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5460.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
可以沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5463.83 |
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好再來副市長您請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5463.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5465.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
這邊就是要問次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5466.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5469.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
這個是我們對於社工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5469.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5471.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
也是有一個很大的缺口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
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並且流失率很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5475.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
對那這邊是我查到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5475.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5476.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
這審計部的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5476.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5478.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
跟衛福部提供的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5478.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5480.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
數據似乎有點對不起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5480.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5482.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
因為審計部報告的數據是寫到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5482.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5483.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
一四年到年底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5483.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5486.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
禁用人數為6423 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5486.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5488.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
可是衛福部這邊的說明是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5488.83 |
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5492.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
一四年年底的禁用人數為6496 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5492.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5495.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
請問這個差距的原因為何 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5495.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5497.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
包委員這個你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5500.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5502.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
這個是不是可以允許我回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5502.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5504.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
我再跟那個我們的辦公室那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5504.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5505.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
我再來再確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5505.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5507.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
那你會再給我們一份說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5507.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5508.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
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5511.3 |
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好第二個是在我們審預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5514.3 |
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非常非常多委員不分黨派 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5515.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
都在關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5515.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5518.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
6月17號那時候我們在審你們的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5518.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5520.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
我們很多會委員就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5520.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5522.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
要提升社工的職績費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5522.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5525.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
備勤費緊急出勤費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5525.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5528.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
那您的回答是說要送行政院審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
5531.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
可是到昨天我去追行政院那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
5531.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5534.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
還是沒有收到你們說要送到行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5534.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5536.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
去審議的這個東西 |
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5536.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5539.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
還有7月25你們回覆給這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5539.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5542.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
我們衛環委員內容也有講到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5542.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5545.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
你們會去修改風險加急會去提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5545.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5548.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
但風險加急當然現在社工覺得很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5548.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5550.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
因為從109年至今 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5550.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5551.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
6年都沒有調整過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
5551.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
5554.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
所以包括你自己講的風險加急 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
5554.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
5557.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
還有我們在審預算的時候講的職績費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
5557.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
5558.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
出勤費 備勤費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
5558.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
5561.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
到底什麼時候才會送到行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
5561.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
5563.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
OK 非常感謝委員對這個問題的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
5563.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
5565.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
確實我們社工同仁在第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
5565.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
5566.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
他這個非常辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
5566.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
5568.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
那我跟委員簡單兩個回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
5568.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
5570.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
第一個您剛剛所說的這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
5570.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
5572.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
有關於風險加急的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
5572.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
5573.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
我跟委員報告 |
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5573.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
5575.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
我之前我已經主持我們相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
5575.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
5577.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
我先跟委員透露一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
5577.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
5578.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
我們會分成四級 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
5578.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
5581.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
第一個最高的當然就是所謂的兒少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
5581.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
5583.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
跟這一個保護性社工 |
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5583.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
5586.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
第二級是我們的這一個脆弱家庭裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
5586.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
5588.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
跟兒少有關 這是第二級 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
5588.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
5590.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
第三個就是脆弱性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
5590.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
5591.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
還有另外一班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
5591.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5593.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
我們會分四級來做這個風險加急 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5593.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5595.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
那這一個這是第一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5595.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5597.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
另外第二點您剛剛所說的職績費的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5597.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5599.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
其實我們現在目前都已經簽辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5599.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5601.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
我們現在目前已經送到那個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5601.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5602.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
部長室那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
5602.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
5604.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
我們會趕快 部長那邊一旦簽合之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5604.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5605.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
我們趕快就會送給 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5605.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5608.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
所以大概一個月內可以送到行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5608.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5611.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
我想這個 我們會趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5611.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5612.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
一個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5612.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5613.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
一個月內可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5614.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5615.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
我們會趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5615.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5617.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
因為我知道就是說現在目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5617.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5620.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
現在公務人員那邊現在也普遍調薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5620.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5621.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
那這個裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5621.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5623.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
除了這個調薪的部分之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5623.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
5624.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
另外我們認為風險加急 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5624.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5625.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
這是非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5625.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5627.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
那我們會趕快來加速 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5627.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5629.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
再來這個也是審計部點出你們的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5629.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5630.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5630.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5631.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
審計部的報告說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5631.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
5633.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
你們現在的久任制度無法使人留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5633.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5635.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
他有舉了一個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5635.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
5640.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
他說他核定了137個資深保護性社工人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5640.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5642.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
可是實際上所有縣市加起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5642.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5643.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
只有僅用32人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5643.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5646.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
僅佔核定的補助人數23% |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5646.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5648.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
這一點您知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5648.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5650.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
那你知道原因為何嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5650.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5651.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
OK好 這個我是不是請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5651.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5653.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
部長來簡單回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5653.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5654.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5654.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5655.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
因為資深社工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5655.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5657.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
其實他會有一些條件上的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5657.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5658.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5658.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5660.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
那可是你已經核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5660.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5662.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
你給他這麼多的人數核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5662.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5663.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5663.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5664.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
可是你的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5664.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5665.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
他有一個比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5665.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5667.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
你的限制是不是應該要修改一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5667.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5669.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
對 我們回去再來做一個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5669.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5670.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
我們回去會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5670.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5674.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
那現在保護性社工流動率也高達17.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5674.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5677.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
你在7月29講到風險加急的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5677.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5680.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
同一篇回文裡面有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5680.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5682.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
你們會去研議社工年資接觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5682.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5684.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
和社工年資接觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5684.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5687.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
對 那這個你們什麼時候也會送出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5687.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5690.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
這個也是在跟我們剛剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5690.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5693.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
就是那個跟風險加急那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5693.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5694.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
風險加急的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5694.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5695.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5695.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5697.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
而且我們會整個那個接觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5697.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5698.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
我跟委員報告來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5698.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5700.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
本來是那個7階 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5700.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5701.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
我們現在會double到15階 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5701.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5704.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
好 我希望不要再看到你們開了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5704.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5705.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
很大的核定人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5705.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5707.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
結果最後可以符合的人很少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5707.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5708.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
只有23% |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5708.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5709.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
了解了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5709.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5711.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
好 最後一個比較重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5711.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5713.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
是剛有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5713.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5716.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
這個院長 部長他們在外面就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5716.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5717.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
現在獨居的長者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5717.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5720.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
大概衛福部這邊的數據是70萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5720.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5721.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
對 沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5721.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5724.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
不過你們已經列冊的快要7萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5724.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5725.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
不過你看我們去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5725.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5729.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
我們去幫他裝緊急救援裝置的覆蓋率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5729.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
5731.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
從112 113 114 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
5731.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
5733.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
緩慢的上升 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
5733.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
5735.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
每次每年就是1 2%的上升 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
5735.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
5738.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
最新數據是28.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
5738.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
5740.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
這個是列冊裡面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
5740.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
5743.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
只有28.76他裝好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
5743.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
5746.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
如果你是以整體你們公布的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
5746.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
5747.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
70萬人來看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
5747.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
5749.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
只有2.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
5749.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
5750.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
5750.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
5751.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
那你滿意這個數據嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
5751.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
5753.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
包委員兩個回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
5753.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
5754.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
5754.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
5756.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
其實我們現在目前的這個方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
5756.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
5757.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
也感謝大院的一個支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
5757.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
5759.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
是從今年才開始實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
5759.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
5761.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
那你現在目前所說的這是過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
5761.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
5763.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
我也承認過去只有7萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
5763.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
5764.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
這顯然低估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
5764.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
5765.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
所以這是第一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
5765.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
5766.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
所以正因為這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
5766.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
5767.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
所以我們趕快來做通盤 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
5767.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
5769.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
第二點我們現在目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
5769.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
5770.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
其實包委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
5770.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
5772.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
我們現在目前跟獨老這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
5772.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
5775.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
也要尊重獨老自己本身的意願 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
5775.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
5776.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
我們當然希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
5776.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
5778.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
就是他真的有那個風險的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
5778.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
5780.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
我們希望你能裝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
5780.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
5781.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
但是如果我有人報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
5781.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
5783.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
我們的同仁去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
5785.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
5786.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
他就比較不願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
5786.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
5787.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
他沒有這個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
5787.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
5789.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
對 意思是說他就不愛了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
5790.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
5791.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
5791.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
5793.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
我們要尊重當事人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
5793.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
5794.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
他自己本身的意願 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
5794.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
5796.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
因為我知道你們現在訪查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
5796.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
5798.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
風險分級跟裝機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
5798.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
5800.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
有可能是不一樣的時間去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
5800.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
5801.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
對 沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
5801.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
5802.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
那你要不要評估一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
5802.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
5804.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
是不是可以同時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
5804.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
5805.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
既然你去訪查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
5805.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
5807.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
就一次把所有事情做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
5807.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
5809.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
還有未來你現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
5809.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
5812.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
你也覺得這個7萬嚴重低估了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
5812.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
5815.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
那是不是幫自己設一個KPI |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
5815.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
5817.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
我們希望一個月也可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
5817.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
5819.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
你要幫自己設定什麼KPI |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
5819.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
5820.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
5820.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
5821.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
一年兩年三年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
5821.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
5823.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
你多久以內要幫他們裝置完 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
5823.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
5825.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
包委員我能回覆三個數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
5825.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
5826.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
第一個就是現在目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
5826.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
5829.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
我們按照獨老的這個戶口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
5829.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
5830.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
是117萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
5830.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
5831.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
這是第一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
5831.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
5832.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
第二個數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
5832.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
5833.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
第二個我們現在目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
5833.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
5834.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
認為這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
5834.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
5835.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
我們會做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
5835.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
5836.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
他有需要會做一個整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
5836.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
5838.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
general的一個survey是70萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
5838.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
5839.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
但是我們估出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
5839.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
5841.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
按照過去的歷史的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
5841.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
5842.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
我們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
5842.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
5843.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
剛剛說7萬是低估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
5843.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
5845.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
不一定每個人都要被survey |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
5845.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
5846.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
那我們認為就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
5846.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
5847.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
這裡面可能有需要關懷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
5847.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
5848.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
是35萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
5848.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
5849.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
是35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
5849.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
5850.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
所以我們自己的KPI是35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
5850.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
5851.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
但是35裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
5851.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
5852.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
還有區分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
5852.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
5854.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
這一個低中高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
5854.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
5855.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
還有極高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
5855.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
5857.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
這四級的level |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
5857.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
5858.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
真的有需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
5858.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
5860.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
其實事實上是那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
5860.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
5861.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
是Extreme |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
5861.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
5863.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
那個大概幾萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
5864.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
5865.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
那個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
5865.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
5866.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
我們現在目前就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
5866.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
5867.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
現在目前正在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
5867.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
5870.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
我們還在那個調查當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
5872.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
5873.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
我估計10萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
5875.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
5878.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
好那我們就再跟你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
5878.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
5879.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
會後要一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
5879.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
5880.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
可以沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
5880.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
5881.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
不過我先跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
5881.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
5882.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
因為我們現在目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
5882.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
5883.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
這個也才剛啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
5883.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
5884.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
所以我們現在目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
5884.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
5886.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
要從那邊去撈出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
5886.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
5889.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
然後我會給委員一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
5889.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
5890.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
5890.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
5891.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
好謝謝次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
5891.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
5892.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
感謝陳委員的一個關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
5892.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
5893.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
5895.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
5897.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
謝謝陳金輝委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
5897.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
5899.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
接下來請邱振軍委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
5907.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
5908.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
主席好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
5908.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
5909.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
我們一樣請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
5910.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
5911.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
有請呂次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
5916.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
5917.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
市長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
5917.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
5918.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
5918.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
5920.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
聘請移工的家庭雇主 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
5920.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
5922.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
遇到這個移工失聯或懷孕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
5922.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
5925.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
產生的照顧斷層 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
5925.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
5926.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
目前是由你們喘息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
5926.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
5930.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
跟短期替代照顧服務的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
5930.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
5931.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
服務吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
5931.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
5933.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
那當勞動部的這個配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
5933.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
5934.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
5934.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
5935.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
對沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
5935.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
5936.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
這個案子是由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
5936.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
5937.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
這個案子是由我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
5937.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
5938.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
跟勞動部兩邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
5938.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
5939.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
來共同合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
5939.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
5940.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
因為今年5月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
5940.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
5942.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
我們洪生漢部長有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
5942.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
5943.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
勞動部正跟衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
5943.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
5945.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
勞動部正跟衛福部密集的研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
5945.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
5948.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
重症家庭的照護補助方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
5948.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
5950.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
6月我也問過他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
5950.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
5951.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
他表示已經密切 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
5951.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
5953.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
跟衛福部進行討論跟爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
5953.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
5957.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
要盡快整合跨部會的會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
5957.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
5958.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
那提出相關的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
5958.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
5960.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
那從5月到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
5960.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
5962.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
你們兩個部會都針對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
5962.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
5964.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
重症家庭補助補位方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
5964.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
5965.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
總共開了幾次會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
5965.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
5966.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
包委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
5966.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
5971.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
我跟另外那個李建宏次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
5971.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
5972.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
我們大概已經開過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
5972.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
5973.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
5974.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
5975.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
至少5次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
5975.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
5977.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
那有沒有什麼結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
5977.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
5980.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
包委員我們現在目前幾個結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
5980.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
5981.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
第一個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
5981.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
5982.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
陳委員剛剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
5982.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
5984.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
我們現在目前會先 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
5984.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
5985.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
就是說您剛剛所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
5985.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
5988.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
這一個這個家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
5988.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
5989.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
那我們現在目前優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
5989.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
5991.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
先從CMS裡面7到8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
5991.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
5993.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
這是屬於所謂重症的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
5993.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
5994.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
那我們現在目前估出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
5994.54 |
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5995.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
目前有符合這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
5995.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
5997.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
大約大概11萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
5997.54 |
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5998.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
這是第一個數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
5998.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
5999.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
另外第二個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
5999.54 |
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6001.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
我們現在目前會針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
6001.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
6003.54 |
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他們這邊的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
6003.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
6004.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
的一個喘息的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
6004.54 |
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6006.54 |
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之前他會分兩段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
6006.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
6007.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
一般通常他申請的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
6007.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
6009.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
那方案什麼時候會出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
6009.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
6010.54 |
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整個具體的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
6010.54 |
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6011.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
6011.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
6012.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
6012.54 |
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6014.54 |
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因為這裡面會簽到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
6015.99 |
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6016.99 |
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其實還有一些是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
6019.67 |
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6020.67 |
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我們會有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
6020.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
6021.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
然後我們會有一個多月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
6021.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
6022.67 |
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大概多久了大概多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
6024.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
6026.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
我們希望如果可以的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
6027.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
6028.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
越快越好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
6028.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
6030.06 |
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因為從外籍看護家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
6030.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
6031.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
這個看護工家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
6031.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
6032.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
申請喘息服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
6032.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
6034.06 |
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那使用人次從113年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
6034.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
6036.06 |
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106萬增加到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
6036.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
6038.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
114年123萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
6038.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
6040.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
那短期替代照顧服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
6040.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
6043.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
從53萬報正到111萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
6043.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
6044.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
成長108% |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
6044.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
6045.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
6045.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
6047.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
那整體超過234萬人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
6047.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
6049.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
這數據告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
6049.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
6051.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
就是說照顧斷層是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
6051.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
6053.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
外籍看護家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
6053.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
6054.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
其實這個是非常真實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
6054.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
6056.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
而普遍的這個困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
6056.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
6058.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
那洪部長當時也認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
6058.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
6061.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
52天的喘息服務確實不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
6061.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
6063.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
那市長您認為對一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
6063.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
6066.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
需要365天24小時照顧的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
6066.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
6068.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
重症家庭來說夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
6068.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
6070.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
包委員我當然知道就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
6070.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
6073.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
52天當然還是有所不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
6073.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
6074.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
但是我也必須要先點出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
6074.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
6075.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
現在有一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
6075.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
6077.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
重症家庭我們的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
6077.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
6079.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
我們跟勞動部那邊討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
6079.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
6081.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
其實反而使用的反而不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
6081.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
6084.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
就根據就是說這幾集輕鬆鬆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
6084.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
6086.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
那這裡面有一個很重要的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
6086.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
6088.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
在於就是說重症家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
6088.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
6089.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
他們在聘僱的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
6090.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
6092.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
他們怕使用這個喘息之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
6092.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
6094.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
我也不瞞委員說他們怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
6095.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
6096.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
他可能就會吵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
6097.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
6099.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
所以我們這裡面就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
6099.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
6100.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
必須要有一個所謂喘息的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
6100.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
6102.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
喘息的意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
6102.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
6104.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
會加強這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
6104.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
6106.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
特別我們也跟一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
6106.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
6107.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
沒有你剛才講的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
6107.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
6109.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
只是我們自己要考慮的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
6109.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
6111.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
可是他這個問題確實存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
6111.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
6113.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
我覺得說我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
6113.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
6115.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
因為你這個方案也還沒出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
6115.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
6117.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
我現在我只把這個意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
6117.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
6118.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
先跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
6118.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
6120.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
那你盡快你們盡快好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
6120.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
6121.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
6121.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
6122.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
那我再請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
6122.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
6124.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
這個不苗擴建工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
6124.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
6126.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
7月開始公開招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
6126.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
6127.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
到現在留標三次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
6127.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
6128.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
原因是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
6128.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
6129.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
包委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
6129.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
6130.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
委員也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
6130.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
6131.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
這其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
6131.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
6133.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
那邊的鄉親我們都知道就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
6133.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
6135.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
非常非常需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
6135.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
6137.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
林業情委員他也一直都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
6137.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
6139.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
這個問題也非常非常關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
6139.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
6140.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
那這裡面大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
6140.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
6143.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
過去大概就是說因為疫情期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
6143.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
6144.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
那另外第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
6144.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
6145.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
你不要講疫情期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
6145.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
6147.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
我現在講7月開始公開招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
6147.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
6148.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
不要講那麼遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
6148.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
6149.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
現在就去招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
6149.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
6151.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
到現在三次留標是為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
6153.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
6154.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
我現在問你為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
6154.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
6156.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
主要應該還是那個標金的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
6156.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
6158.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
對就是錢不夠對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
6158.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
6161.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
今年3月我問這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
6161.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
6164.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
那個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
6164.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
6166.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
他說他有配套方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
6166.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
6168.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
那你們的替代方案是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
6168.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
6171.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
這個部分我是不是先請那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
6171.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
6173.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
醫事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
6173.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
6174.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
OK好沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
6174.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
6175.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
6175.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
6178.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
不苗這邊主要就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
6178.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
6179.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
他幾次的留標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
6179.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
6180.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
那是錢的問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
6180.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
6182.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
那你們準備提高多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
6183.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
6184.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
6186.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
6188.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
也不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
6187.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
6189.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
包圍這個部分我們會來趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
6189.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
6190.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
盡快啦好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
6190.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
6192.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
因為這個已經留標三次了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
6192.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
6193.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
你不要告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
6193.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
6195.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
等一下又到十幾次標不出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
6195.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
6196.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
了解了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
6196.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
6198.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
那三次之後應該就可以調整了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
6198.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
6199.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
好OK |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
6199.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
6200.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
6201.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
6203.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
那個市長我再問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
6203.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
6204.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
目前全台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
6204.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
6206.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
在衛福部系統裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
6206.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
6209.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
符合優先採購資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
6209.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
6211.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
有在月餅的深藏 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
6211.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
6213.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
跟庇護廠商總共有幾家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
6213.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
6214.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
優先採 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
6216.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
6218.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
我告訴你啦大概有63家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
6218.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
6220.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
163個產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
6220.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
6222.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
那按照總統府的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
6222.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
6224.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
因為國務機要費被凍結2000萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
6224.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
6225.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
刪除1000萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
6225.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
6228.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
這些錢本來要跟37個弱勢團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
6228.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
6229.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
買中秋月餅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
6229.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
6231.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
現在都沒有辦法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
6231.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
6234.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
那哪些廠商是總統府已經下訂單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
6234.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
6235.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
然後突然被抽單了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
6237.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
6239.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
哪一些只有尋教義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
6239.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
6241.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
這個我們可能再了解一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
6241.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
6242.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
6242.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
6244.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
所以衛福部本身是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
6244.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
6247.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
深藏權法的這個主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
6247.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
6250.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
那優裁制度跟廠商是你們建立的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
6250.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
6252.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
那這麼多天總統府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
6252.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
6253.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
然後民進黨上下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
6253.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
6255.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
民進黨黨員綠媒徹疫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
6255.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
6257.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
鋪天蓋地的提醒你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
6257.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
6259.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
弱勢會被影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
6259.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
6260.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
你們都沒去關心嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
6261.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
6262.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
包委員有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
6262.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
6264.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
我們現在目前就是說也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
6264.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6265.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
沒有關心你都講不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6265.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6266.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
包委員我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6266.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6268.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
我們在那個之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6268.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6269.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
我們事實上在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6269.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6270.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
就有一個平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6270.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6271.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
我們才希望能夠來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6271.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6273.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
那你說影響的你也講不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6273.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6274.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
到底有多少家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6274.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6276.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
我們現在目前就是希望能夠請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6276.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6277.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
社會各界 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6277.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6278.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
我們都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6278.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6279.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
多好家啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6279.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6281.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
每年都會來做相關宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6281.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6282.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
多好家 現在影響多好家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6283.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6283.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
喂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6287.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6288.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
總統府啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6288.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6290.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
過去每年中秋送禮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6290.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6293.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
從政府目前公開的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6293.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6294.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
我們來看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6294.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6296.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
那106年3家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6296.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6298.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
107年是3家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6298.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6300.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
108年是0家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6300.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6301.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
沒有半家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6301.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6303.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
然後109年也是3家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6303.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6305.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
110年3家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6305.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6307.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
111年最多8家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6307.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6309.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
然後112年又沒有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6309.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6310.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
又0家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6310.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6312.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
那113年3家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6312.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6314.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
114年是6家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6314.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6316.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
那過去大概就是3到6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6316.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6317.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
巨多8家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6317.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6319.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
怎麼今年突然變成37家了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6323.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6326.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
如果總統府真的一次像37家採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6326.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6327.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
我當然支持扣他服務啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6327.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6328.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
照顧服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6328.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6331.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
但是請把採購資料拿出來嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6331.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6332.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
37家各買多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6332.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6334.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
每一筆是多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6334.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6336.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
是一起規劃還是拆成37筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6336.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6338.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
分別採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6338.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6340.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
如果就是本來就是同一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6341.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6343.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
總統府中秋禮盒的採購需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6343.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6346.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
那是不是刻意拆成多筆小的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6346.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6347.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
那就要進一步說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6347.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6349.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
有沒有涉及這個採購法上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6349.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6351.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
意圖規避採購法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6351.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6353.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
而分批辦理的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6353.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6355.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
而且總統府過去幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6355.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6357.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
得到的訂單重複性非常高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6357.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6360.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
那瑪麗亞體系得標5個年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6361.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6363.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
愛肯尼樂活 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6363.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6365.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
工廠4個年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6365.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6370.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
香園、高飛、醫店各3個年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6370.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6373.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
那中外唐氏鎮基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6373.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6375.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
善奈、小魚兒各2個年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6375.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6378.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
其中一個基金會的常務監察人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6378.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6381.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
監察員是我們民進黨部分區的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6381.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6383.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
那這樣有沒有長期排擠到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6383.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6385.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
其他上百家弱勢朋友的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6385.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6387.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
廠商的生存權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6388.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6390.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
包委 我講應該不至於啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6390.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6393.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
這裡面 我那天也跟那個廖委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6393.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6395.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
我們也一起去台中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6395.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6396.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
我們也看那個瑪麗亞那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6396.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6398.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
其實這些其實基本上都是我們長久以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6398.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6400.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
我想跟總統府這邊我們講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6400.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6403.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
對啦 我們是希望就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6403.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6407.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
總統府既然說要擴大辦理37家嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6407.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6410.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
那37家你今年到底編了多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6410.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6412.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
你以往的紀錄你頂多就是8家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6412.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6413.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
怎麼今年就變37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6413.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6414.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
我覺得就很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6414.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6416.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
那部長你們的U彩平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6416.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6419.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
食品類這個禮盒類 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6419.52 |
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有146家廠商 |
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1060筆商品 |
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那賣月餅、中秋蛋、糕餅 |
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就有63家 163個商品 |
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那還沒有算餅乾、伴手禮、咖啡、茶葉 |
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果乾、綜合食品這些禮盒 |
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6437.52 |
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都可以當成中秋採購的商品 |
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那我不知道為什麼總統府每年 |
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只跟3家到8家來買 |
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是給這幾家這個價值特別多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
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6447.52 |
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還是關係特別好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
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6449.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
包委員應該不是這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
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我的理解像那個去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
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6453.52 |
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也是因為國務績要費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
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6455.52 |
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因為被刪問到我到桃園那邊去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6455.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6458.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
其實我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6458.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6461.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
我甚至我還請企業那邊來出數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6464.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
我現在只是比較好奇就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6464.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6468.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
總統府你應該就是說這37家名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6468.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6470.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
這在國務績要費動山以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6472.52 |
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就已經確定了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6472.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6474.52 |
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還是之後才形成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6476.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
如果總統府不給資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6476.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6477.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
你們是主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6477.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6479.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
應該去關心廠商吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6479.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6481.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
那請你們去問廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6481.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6484.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
把37家可能被影響的團體找出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
6484.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6486.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
協助他們問清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6486.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6488.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
總統府巡假的這個日期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6488.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
6490.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
通知日期、下訂單的日期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
6490.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
6493.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
預定的金額就知道影響的層面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
6493.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
6496.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
或者這個如果總統府不會做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6496.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6497.52 |
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你們可以幫他做啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
6497.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
6499.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
你們是主管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
6499.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
6504.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
你們算是主管法的單位嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
6505.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
6508.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
包委我想這個我們當然都有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
6508.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
6510.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
不過我覺得問題的根源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6510.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6511.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
應該還是在就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
6511.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
6514.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
這個本來要來支持我們國務次團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
6514.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
6516.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
你不要講到那邊去啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
6516.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
6519.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
因為我們現在就是就事論事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
6519.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
6520.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
你去來說沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
6520.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
6524.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
那你到底是幾家你講出來嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
6524.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
6526.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
如果37家當時只有巡假 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
6526.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
6527.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
根本還沒有下單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
6527.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
6529.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
那總統府就要講清楚啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
6529.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
6532.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
所謂的訂單收影響是什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
6532.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
6534.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
那反過來如果已經下單了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
6535.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
7月已經成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
6535.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
6537.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
那是誰決定不履行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
6537.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
6540.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
立法院沒有叫總統府取消 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
6540.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
6542.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
任何一家庇護工廠的訂單耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
6543.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
6546.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
如果是總統府因為自己的經費配置決定取消 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
6546.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
6550.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
那就說明契約處理跟廠商的實際損失嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
6550.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
6553.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
不能一句力量煽動就把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
6553.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
6556.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
這個煽動就把這個責任通通推出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
6557.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
6559.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
你要去幫陸氏團體講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
6560.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
6562.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
不是在這邊看戲啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
6562.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
6564.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
另外總統府現在公開告訴大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
6564.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
6566.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
這三千萬國務機要費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
6566.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
6569.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
就是要拿來跟陸氏團體買重修業品 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
6569.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
6570.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
確實沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
6570.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
6571.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
對那我覺得啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
6571.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
6572.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
大家就公平一點嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
6572.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
6574.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
就按照總統府的邏輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
6574.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
6575.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
對不對那我提議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
6575.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
6580.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
總統府國務機要費三千萬全數公益化全數優彩化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
6580.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
6583.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
老老實實讓這三千萬國務機要費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
6583.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
6586.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
每一筆錢都留在陸氏的這個優彩平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
6586.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
6588.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
專款專用來幫陸氏 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
6590.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
6592.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
這個買陸氏團體的產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
6593.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
6595.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
而且採購的資格公開嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
6595.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
6597.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
遴選方式公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
6597.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
6599.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
採購金額全部公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
6599.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
6601.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
受益對象也是公開的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
6601.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
6603.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
讓大大小小的陸氏機構都有機會拿到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
6603.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
6605.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
總統府國務機要費的訂單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
6605.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
6607.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
這不是很好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
6606.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
6607.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
6607.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
6610.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
市長你身為主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
6610.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
6612.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
應該不會拒絕總統府的這個愛心吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
6614.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
6618.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
包委員我們呼籲社會各界大家共同來關心我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
6618.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
6622.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
但是問題就是說這很明顯的這三千萬被 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
6622.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
6624.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
被刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
6624.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
6626.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
我們就算有這個平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
6626.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
6628.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
也要有這一個金錢來購買 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
6628.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
6630.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
也要請大院來大力支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
6630.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
6632.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
大家一起來做愛心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
6632.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
6634.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
所以你是支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
6634.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
6636.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
你是支持把國務機要費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
6636.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
6638.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
6638.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
6640.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
這個公益化全數公益化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
6640.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
6642.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
全數優彩化來綁在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
6642.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
6644.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
放在陸氏平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
6644.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
6646.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
你支持嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
6646.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
6648.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
我支持我們大家一起來幫助我們的陸氏團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
6648.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
6650.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
不要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
6650.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
6652.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
國務機要費被刪的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
6652.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
6654.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
三千萬就是落實的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
6654.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
6656.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
被煽動的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
6656.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
6658.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
三千萬又變成總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
6658.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
6660.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
自己決定怎麼花 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
6660.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
6662.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
這三十七下的訂單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
6662.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
6664.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
希望衛福部不要在旁邊看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
6664.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
6666.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
也不要跟著喊沒錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
6666.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
6668.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
要想辦法把總統的形象救回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
6668.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
6670.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
去年的採購名氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
6670.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
6672.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
目前沒有完整公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
6672.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
6674.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
我們就拿112年的資料來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
6674.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
6676.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
112年總統府有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
6676.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
6678.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
一千兩百多萬的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
6678.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
6680.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
品項是優彩的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
6680.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
6682.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
廠商也有提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
6682.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
6684.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
最後他到後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
6684.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
6686.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
卻向一般的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
6686.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
6688.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
來購買 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
6687.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
6689.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
今天三十七家陸氏團體對總統來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
6689.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
6691.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
這麼重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
6691.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
6693.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
為什麼不能把原本一般採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
6695.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
6697.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
市場的商採的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
6697.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
6699.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
優先轉向是三十七家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
6699.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
6701.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
你們衛福部的平台上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
6701.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
6703.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
食品禮盒都有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
6703.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
6705.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
以前一千兩百多萬可以給一般廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
6705.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
6707.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
6707.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
6709.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
三十七家庇護工廠說訂單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
6709.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
6711.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
被取消了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
6711.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
6713.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
那這一千兩百多萬的採購空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
6713.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
6715.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
不能優先留給弱勢嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
6715.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
6717.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
我請你去跟總統府協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
6719.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
6721.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
6725.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
6727.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
謝謝邱振軍委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
6727.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
6729.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
邱振軍委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
6729.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
6731.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
等一下要去採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
6731.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
6733.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
我們的月餅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
6734.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
6736.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
接下來請廖偉祥委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
6747.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
6749.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
6749.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
6753.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
有請呂次長跟法務部的主任檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
6753.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
6755.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
呂次跟法務部的主任檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
6758.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
6760.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
晚安 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
6762.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
6764.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
看一下喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
6767.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
6769.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
還有司法院法官好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
6769.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
6771.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
可能跟你們都有一點關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
6774.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
6776.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
6775.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
6777.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
呂次這個今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
6777.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
6779.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
今天在審這個法案之前喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
6779.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
6781.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
6781.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
6783.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
有想要問一下喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
6783.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
6785.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
最新的這個一一四年統計啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
6785.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
6787.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
性侵害通報被害人是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
6789.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
6791.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
那比前一年多還是少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
6791.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
6793.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
未滿18歲的是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
6793.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
6795.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
我們最新數據大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
6795.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
6797.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
大概一萬多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
6797.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
6799.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
那我們跟去年的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
6799.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
6801.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
6801.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
6803.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
一萬多是一萬多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
6803.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
6805.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
有沒有具體的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
6805.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
6807.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
或者我們的其他的單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
6807.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
6809.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
一萬五千 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
6809.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
6811.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
一萬五千多件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
6811.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
6813.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
一萬五千多件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
6813.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
6815.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
性侵害通報有一萬五千多件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
6817.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
6819.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
那比本席查到的還要多耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
6820.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
6822.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
喔對不起是10442啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
6822.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
6824.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
10442對我本席也是查到10442 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
6824.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
6826.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
所以你沒有掌握清楚這樣對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
6826.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
6828.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
我記得是一萬啦一萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
6828.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
6830.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
10442 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
6830.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
6832.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
那比前一年多還是少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
6834.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
6836.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
比去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
6836.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
6838.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
去年是10078 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
6838.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
6840.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
所以是略多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
6839.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
6841.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
多了嘛多了一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
6841.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
6843.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
那未滿18歲的有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
6844.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
6846.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
未滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
6847.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
6849.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
6849.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
6851.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
6850.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
6852.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
所以今天要討論這個之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
6852.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
6854.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
你們都沒有去把數字研究清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
6857.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
6859.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
未滿18歲你說多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
6858.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
6860.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
3586嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
6860.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
6862.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
4600 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
6862.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
6864.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
4712 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
6864.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
6866.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
到底是多少數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
6866.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
6868.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
一直一直 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
6868 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
6870 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
一下子一下子三千多四千 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
6870 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
6872 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
然後我講一個然後又說對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
6872 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
6874 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
你們到底有沒有研究清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
6874 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
6876 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
4674啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
6876 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
6878 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
未滿18歲的4674 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
6878 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
6880 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
6880 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
6882 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
那等於是幾乎啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
6882.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
6884.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
這個通報案件裡面將近 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
6884.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
6886.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
有兩個案件其中一個可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
6886.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
6888.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
就是未滿18歲的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
6888.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
6890.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
那所以我也想先詢問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
6890.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
6892.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
兒肖姓伯雀的通報被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
6892.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
6894.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
110年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
6894.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
6896.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
是1876 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
6896.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
6898.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
6898.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
6900.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
114年是3378 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
6900.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
6902.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
那這5年幾乎翻好幾倍啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
6902.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
6904.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
好翻倍啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
6903.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
6905.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
那通報量一直在漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
6905.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
6907.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
但是通報的這麼多之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
6907.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
6909.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
進到司法之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
6909.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
6911.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
包委我們那個增加其實因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
6911.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
6913.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
就是說兒肖姓伯雀條例嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
6913.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
6915.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
所以那主要你們通報增加是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
6915.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
6917.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
那個N的姓影像 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
6917.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
6919.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
是當然所以我說量增加沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
6919.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
6921.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
我是說我現在問說這麼多量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
6921.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
6923.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
那進到司法之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
6923.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
6925.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
法務部這個法務啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
6925.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
6927.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
統計資訊網的通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
6927.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
6929.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
14年是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
6929.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
6931.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
偵查終結了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
6931.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
6933.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
1982 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
6932.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
6934.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
好那 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
6934.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
6936.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
我也想問次長最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
6936.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
6938.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
起訴了多少人起訴率是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
6941.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
6943.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
如果次長不知道可以請那個相關的單位說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
6946.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
6948.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
6948.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
6950.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
那這邊回覆委員就是我現在手邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
6950.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
6952.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
有的這個地方檢察處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
6952.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
6954.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
辦理違反兒肖姓伯雀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
6954.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
6956.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
法治條例的案件統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
6956.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
6958.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
那是以我現在手邊的資料我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
6958.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
6960.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
114年度的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
6960.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
6962.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
新收案件數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
6962.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
6964.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
是1158件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
6964.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
6966.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
那其中起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
6966.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
6968.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
偵查終結是1387 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
6968.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
6970.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
6970.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
6972.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
那起訴是804件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
6972.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
6974.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
我剛講是包含這個性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
6974.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
6976.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
同胞的部分我們是另外一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
6976.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
6978.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
報表那我在這邊也跟委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
6978.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
6980.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
報告一下那我現在手邊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
6980.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
6982.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
資料裡面在114 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
6982.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
6984.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
年度的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
6984.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
6986.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
這個性侵害案件的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
6986.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
6988.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
新收件數是5892 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
6988.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
6990.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
6990.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
6992.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
那為什麼跟剛剛這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
6992.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
6994.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
這個衛福部講的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
6994.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
6996.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
又不太一樣因為他根本查到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
6996.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
6998.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
是一樣是1042 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
6998.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
7000.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
我們是以件數啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
7000.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
7002.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
剛剛委員指到的是人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
7002.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
7004.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
通報人數對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
7004.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
7006.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
人數跟件數統計不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
7006.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
7008.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
然後再來就是他可能先 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
7008.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
7010.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
通報之後那先進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
7010.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
7012.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
譬如說被害人好簡單來講沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
7012.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
7014.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
簡單來講我想要表達的事情就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
7014.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
7016.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
最後起訴率大概是33.7% |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
7016.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
7018.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
用人來看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
7018.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
7020.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
那換句話說有三個進到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
7020.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
7022.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
偵查的只有一個走道法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
7022.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
7024.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
那這也不是這個媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
7024.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
7026.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
轉述喔是我去查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
7026.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
7028.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
的法務部自己的統計那可不 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
7028.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
7030.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
可以市長有沒有去分析說為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
7030.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
7032.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
那為什麼沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
7032.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
7034.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
走到法庭裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
7038.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
7040.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
這個是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
7041.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
7043.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
好而且那個時間我直接講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
7043.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
7045.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
好了我想要表達因為時間快要不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
7045.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
7047.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
我覺得其中一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
7047.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
7049.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
一個原因也跟人力有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
7049.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
7051.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
因為2025年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
7051.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
7053.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
12月保護性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
7053.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
7055.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
社工需求是2064 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
7055.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
7057.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
人好那你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
7057.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
7059.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
禁用了1570人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
7059.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
7061.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
所以禁用率大概是76% |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
7061.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
7063.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
是所有社工類別 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
7063.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
7065.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
裡面最低的缺了兩成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
7065.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
7067.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
的人那 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
7067.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
7069.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
誰陪被害人做筆錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
7069.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
7071.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
誰陪出庭然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
7071.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
7073.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
案子越來越多那人會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
7073.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
7075.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
越來越缺那起訴也越來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
7075.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
7077.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
越難我想這也是今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
7077.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
7079.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
想要修法有很多委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
7079.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
7081.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
想要提出修法相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
7081.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
7083.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
7082.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
7084.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
點啦好所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
7084.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
7086.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
我想要請教一下我剛剛在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
7086.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
7088.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
問的點就是說為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
7088.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
7090.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
7089.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
7091.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
起訴率會這麼低那沒有被起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
7091.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
7093.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
或是沒有被偵查完成的你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
7093.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
7095.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
有沒有去統計這些結案原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
7095.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
7097.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
的分類表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
7096.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
7098.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
比如說是超過了時間了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
7098.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
7100.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
還是怎麼樣這是為什麼今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
7100.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
7102.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
要修法一個很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
7103.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
7105.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
一個點吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
7105.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
7107.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
非常感謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
7107.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
7109.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
不過現在目前問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
7109.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
7111.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
委員現在問的是起訴率影響他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
7111.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
7113.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
很多很多因素嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
7113.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
7115.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
這裡面有在起訴的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
7115.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
7117.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
我還在請法務部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
7117.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
7119.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
跟司法那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
7119.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
7121.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
委員你現在所說的是前端的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
7121.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
7123.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
問題嘛現在就是有兩個點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
7123.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
7125.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
第一個點就是說你有沒有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
7125.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
7127.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
了解說為什麼起訴率這麼低 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
7128.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
7130.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
那他的原因是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
7130.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
7132.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
他沒有辦法進入到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
7132.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
7134.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
相關的程序的原因是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
7134.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
7136.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
是時間過了還是說你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
7136.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
7138.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
人力真的不夠可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
7138.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
7140.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
沒有足夠的人去陪他去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
7140.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
7142.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
不管是做筆錄啦或者司法上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
7142.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
7144.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
的協助啊或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
7144.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
7146.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
有陪伴他的就是知道他到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
7146.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
7148.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
發生什麼問題所以本期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
7148.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
7150.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
在這裡講的意思就是說第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
7150.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
7152.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
你有沒有去做所謂的結案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
7152.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
7154.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
原因的分類表你有沒有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
7154.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
7156.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
理解說他到底是為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
7156.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
7158.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
原因是怎麼樣超過起訴的時間嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
7161.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
7163.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
有關於那個起訴率我們是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
7164.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
7166.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
就是我其實是想要主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
7166.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
7168.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
因為今天主要是要討論這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
7168.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
7170.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
所以我是想要問次長啦就是說你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
7170.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
7172.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
有沒有去做這個或者是去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
7172.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
7174.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
或是去問法務部啊或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
7174.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
7176.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
司法院啊或相關單位啊到底是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
7176.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
7178.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
什麼原因是你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
7178.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
7180.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
司法端問題是人力端的問題還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
7180.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
7182.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
通報端的問題那為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
7182.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
7184.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
會造成這個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
7185.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
7187.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
包委員我覺得這裡面有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
7187.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
7189.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
那個我稱呼剛剛說起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
7189.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
7191.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
的這個部分還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
7191.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
7193.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
先知道那個有關於法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
7193.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
7195.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
他們那邊機關的部分嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
7195.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
7197.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
起訴了沒有問題嘛我現在是說有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
7197.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
7199.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
很多 至於前端的部分你剛剛所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
7199.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
7201.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
就是有關於社工這邊我們現在目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
7201.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
7203.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
保護性社工現在目前的這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
7203.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7205.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
recruit的部分大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7205.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7207.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
76啦 大概76啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7207.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7209.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
我剛剛講76啊所以就是不足啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7209.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7211.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
所以我們現在目前也反正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7211.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7213.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
像剛剛之前陳建英委員也說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7213.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7215.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
我們這裡面有一些相關的一些整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7215.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7217.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
整個職績啊還有相關的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7217.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7219.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
加起來這邊我們我最近已經趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7219.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7221.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
已經要簽報給這個行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7221.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7223.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
我們希望透過這個整個薪資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7223.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7225.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
跟勞動條件的改善也希望能夠來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7225.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7227.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
趕快來補齊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7227.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7229.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
那這個部分是不是你要多少時間內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7229.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7231.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
給本席一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7231.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7233.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
我要三個月之內好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7233.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
7235.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
三個月之內我趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7235.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
7237.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
三個月會不會太久一個月可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7237.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7239.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
好OK一個月OK |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7239.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7241.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
而且還有第二件事情就是你要去查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7241.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
7243.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
給本席辦公室一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7243.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
7245.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
為什麼他解安的原因的分類表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7245.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
7247.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
你要知道說為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7247.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
7249.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
因此就沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7249.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7251.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
把他這個程序的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7251.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7253.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
好那再來下一題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7253.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7255.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
今天這個部分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7255.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7257.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
想請教目前這個性防法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7257.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7259.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
兒少性博學條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7259.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7261.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
然後現在都在你的保護服務司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7261.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7263.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
那性暴力防治科 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7263.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7265.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
管這個性防治跟兒少性博學條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7265.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7267.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
那兒少保護科 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7267.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
7269.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
管兒虐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7269.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7271.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
那113專線也在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7271.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7273.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
司喔但是你們現在的主改 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7273.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7275.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
就是我也去看了一下你們行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7275.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7277.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
去年12月11號的院會簡報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7277.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7279.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
兒少及家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7279.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7281.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
支持署下面設保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7281.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7283.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
安置組 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7283.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7285.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
那寫的是兒少保護安置服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7285.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7287.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
住宿式照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7287.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7289.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
那當然今年2月你們又宣布要成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7289.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7291.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
所謂的婦女發展及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7291.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7293.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
保護服務司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7293.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7295.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
對那你5月的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7295.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7297.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
屢次你也說將婦女政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7297.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7299.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
移出社家屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7299.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7301.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
吝嗇婦女及保護司喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7301.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7303.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
那我把那個整份的簡報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7303.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7305.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
看完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7305.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
7307.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
你那6頁裡面的簡報啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7307.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
7309.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
在性侵害的這個名詞或針對這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7309.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7311.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
三個字出現了幾次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7312.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7314.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
其實是零次啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7314.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7316.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
你們裡面好像沒有在討論這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7316.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7318.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
所以我今天是想要請教喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7318.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7320.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
就是主改之後啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7320.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
7322.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
你的性侵害防治法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7322.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7324.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
是歸誰來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7324.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7326.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
兒少性剝削的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7326.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7328.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
防治條例歸誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7328.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7330.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
那兒少保護去兒家屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7330.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7332.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
那性侵害防治如果留在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7332.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7334.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
掛婦女兩個字的司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7334.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
7336.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
那兒少如果被性侵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7336.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7338.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
這兩邊都沾的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7338.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
7340.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
到底是兒家屬要負責還是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7340.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7342.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
女私要負的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7342.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7344.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
那依三又歸誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7344.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7346.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
我會想一個法或者是一個主責單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7346.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7348.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
總不能有兩個媽嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7348.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7350.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
所以到底是以誰為主嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7350.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7352.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
我先簡單回答委員的問題喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7352.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7354.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
現在有關於那個有關性剝削 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7354.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7356.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
還有有關性侵害等等這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7356.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7358.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
全部都還是留在保護司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7358.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7360.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
都還留在保護司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7360.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7362.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
兒少性剝削然後還性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7362.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7364.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
因為我們回應那個社會各界之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7364.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7366.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
對於有關兒童虐待 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7366.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7368.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
那兒童虐待裡面沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7368.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7370.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
我們裡面考慮到就是這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7370.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7372.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
也會跟整個這個社會安全網 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7372.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7374.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
裡面有關於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7374.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7376.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
那個脆弱性的這個家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7376.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7378.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
所以我們會未來會把 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7378.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7380.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
這個部分移到新成立的兒家屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7380.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7382.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
這是第一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7382.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7384.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
可以再講清楚一點嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7384.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7386.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
我覺得聽起來我覺得有點困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7386.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7388.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
簡單來講就是委員剛剛所關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7388.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7390.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
有關性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7390.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7392.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
還有關性剝削這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7392.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7394.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
還是維持在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7394.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7396.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
未來也是在保護司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7396.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7398.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
那另外第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7398.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7402.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
原先有關於兒童虐待的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7402.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7404.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
我們就是把它撥到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7404.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7406.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
兒家屬那邊的保護安置組 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7407.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7409.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
我們全責分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7409.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7413.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
以後這個服務與發展及保護服務司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7413.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7415.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
就是負責你剛剛所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7415.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7417.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
性剝削性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7417.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7419.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
對沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7419.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7421.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
那如果兒童也是有關這部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7421.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7423.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
那當然也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7423.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7425.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
還是在保護司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7426.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7428.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
兒童如果有牽扯到這兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7428.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7430.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
也還是有保護司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7430.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7432.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
所以兒家屬就不負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7432.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7434.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
不是由他們來主持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7434.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7436.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
所以主要在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7436.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7438.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
那再來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7438.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7440.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
我想要問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7440.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7442.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
部長今天的議程27案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7442.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7444.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
那我也一案一案對過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7444.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7446.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
全部都是立委提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7446.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7448.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
有行政院版本嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7448.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7450.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
那我想立法院有多急 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7450.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7452.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
看提案就知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7452.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7454.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
光是動到第53條之二 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7454.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
7456.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
把追溯時效改成被害人滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
7456.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
7458.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
20歲後起算的就有13案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
7458.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
7460.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
那更急的在後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
7460.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
7462.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
連憲法法庭都開口 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
7462.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
7464.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
8月14日15年的憲判自的第六號判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
7464.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
7466.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
憲法法庭的書記聽說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
7466.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
7468.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
先前修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7468.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
7470.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
並未及於關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
7470.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
7474.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
拍攝兒童少年性影像之性剝削犯罪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
7474.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
7476.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
追溯權的時效期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
7476.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
7478.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
那相關的機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
7478.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
7480.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
因妥術通盤檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
7480.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
7482.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
修正相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
7482.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
7484.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
所以我想要先請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
7484.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
7486.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
這個事情是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
7486.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
7488.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
怎麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
7486.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
7488.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
7487.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
7489.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
怎麼這麼卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
7488.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
7490.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
那我看到的事情叫做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
7490.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
7492.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
可能不是你們完全沒有動喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
7492.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
7494.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
而是這個郭采榮司長在8月14日也公開表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
7494.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
7496.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
衛福部已經完成了修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
7496.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
7498.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
8月初也已經函送行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
7498.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
7500.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
7500.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
7502.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
那所以 但是問題就來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
7502.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
7504.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
那到現在為什麼都還沒有行政院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
7504.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
7506.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
那到底是什麼時候送的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
7506.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
7508.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
那行政院是幾日收文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
7508.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
7510.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
現在草案在哪個單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
7510.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
7512.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
已經開過幾次的審查會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
7512.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
7514.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
然後你們卡在哪個針點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
7514.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
7516.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
預計什麼時候送到立法院來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
7515.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
7517.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
那所以到底是你們送的慢還是行政院審的慢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
7519.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
7521.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
包委我們簡單的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
7521.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
7523.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
兩個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
7523.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
7525.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
第一個我們整個院版 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
7525.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
7527.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
我們的版本已經在8月6日 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
7527.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
7529.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
送達行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
7529.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
7531.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
另外第二點現在目前就是委員您剛所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
7531.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
7533.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
有關於通盤檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
7533.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
7535.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
您剛所說的憲法制度這些相關的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
7535.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
7537.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
我們也在我們送的院版的部分裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
7537.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
7539.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
都已經函那 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
7539.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
7541.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
那所以現在是卡在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
7541.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
7543.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
是行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
7540.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
7542.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
8月6日我們已經送進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
7542.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
7544.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
現在目前也在趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
7544.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
7546.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
在進行相關的審議工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
7546.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
7548.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
那到底為什麼會這麼卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
7548.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
7550.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
現在是卡在哪個點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
7550.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
7552.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
沒有吧應該我們8月6日送進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
7552.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
7554.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
可是你看你們食安法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
7554.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
7556.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
很快就進來了還送到立法院來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
7556.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
7558.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
那這個問題到底是卡在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
7559.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
7561.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
包委我們現在目前院那邊都已經在加緊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
7561.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
7563.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
在做相關的審查工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
7565.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
7567.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
加緊那時程大概是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
7568.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
7570.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
欸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
7569.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
7571.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
我們會來趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
7571.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
7573.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
所以你還沒辦法確定時程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
7573.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
7575.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
剛剛說8月6日我們已經送進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
7575.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
7577.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
那我相信院那邊會趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
7577.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
7579.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
有一個回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
7580.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
7582.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
好OK |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
7582.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
7584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
那次長我看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
7584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
7586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
但你還是要給我一個時間啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
7586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
7588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
你們預計大概什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
7588.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
7590.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
市長沒辦法回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
7590.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
7592.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
還是你回去趕快去催這個行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
7592.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
7594.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
我們會請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
7594.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
7596.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
所以換言之就是行政院還卡住 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
7596.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
7598.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
7598.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
7600.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
不會啦8號委員我們現在目前這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
7600.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
7602.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
都會趕快我們知道社會科學對這個事情的關心 |
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7602.92 |
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7604.92 |
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我們會趕快來進行 |
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7604.92 |
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的一個版本 |
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7610.34 |
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市長然後我看到衛福部的書面報告 |
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7610.34 |
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你們不同意 |
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7612.34 |
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7614.34 |
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院之委員的這個版本其中一個理由 |
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7614.34 |
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7616.34 |
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是所現行的性侵害防治 |
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7617.51 |
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7619.51 |
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法的第52條已經有規定 |
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7619.51 |
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7621.51 |
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所以是否還要另外建立 |
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7621.51 |
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7623.51 |
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公開制度需要審慎 |
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7623.51 |
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7625.51 |
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評估喔可是我想要問一下 |
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7625.51 |
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7627.51 |
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次長喔這個是52條到底規定了 |
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7627.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
7629.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
什麼他要求這個加害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
7629.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
7631.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
加害人喔必須要必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
7631.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
7633.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
先判決有罪確定 |
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7633.51 |
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7635.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
然後呢而且還要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
7635.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
7637.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
逃亡藏匿 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
7637.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
7639.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
精通器警察機關才 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
7639.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
7641.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
得公開他的身份資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
7641.51 |
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7643.51 |
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那換句話說 |
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7643.51 |
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7645.51 |
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基本上要等到判決確定後 |
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7645.51 |
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7647.51 |
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那個人跑了然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
7647.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
7649.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
躲起來了被空開通緝了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
7649.51 |
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7651.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
你們才說可以公開喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
7651.51 |
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7653.51 |
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還不是一定要公開 |
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7653.51 |
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7655.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
那還留了一個才良權來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
7655.51 |
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7657.51 |
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庇護這些性侵犯喔 |
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7657.51 |
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7659.51 |
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我說的是已經是 |
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7659.51 |
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7661.51 |
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定讞的喔所以我們這次 |
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7661.51 |
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7663.51 |
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修法要修的處理的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
7663.51 |
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7665.51 |
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是對於本法的第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
7665.51 |
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7667.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
第一項所列的性侵害犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
7667.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
7669.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
加害人判決確定後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
7669.51 |
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7671.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
如果依他的犯罪情節 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
7671.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
7673.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
履行義務情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
7673.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
7675.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
活動範圍以及專業評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
7675.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
7677.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
已經足夠認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
7677.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
7679.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
具有高度再犯風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
7679.51 |
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7681.51 |
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能不能提早讓潛在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
7681.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
7683.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
的再次的犯行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
7683.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
7685.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
的這些被害這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
7685.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
7687.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
加害人喔讓這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
7687.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
7689.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
被害人可以得到必要的警示 |
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7689.51 |
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7691.51 |
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所以想要問一下次長 |
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7691.51 |
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7693.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
一個是逃亡通緝後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
7693.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
7695.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
找人一個是再犯之前防人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
7695.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
7697.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
這兩件事情怎麼會一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
7697.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
7699.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
所以我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
7699.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
7701.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
如果今天政府反對這個所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
7701.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
7703.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
業人之委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
7703.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
7705.51 |
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是不是不要只告訴我說第52條 |
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7705.51 |
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7707.51 |
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已經有了要請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
7707.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
7709.51 |
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直接要請次長這一回答 |
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7709.51 |
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7711.51 |
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現行的第52條到底要怎麼保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
7711.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
7713.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
這些面對再犯風險高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
7713.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
7715.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
性侵害加害人的潛在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
7715.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
7717.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
被害人難道一定要等到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
7717.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
7719.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
在被到這個他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
7719.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
7721.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
在犯案了甚至逃亡通緝之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
7721.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
7723.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
政府才有認為公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
7723.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
7725.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
資訊的必要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
7725.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
7727.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
這裡面 |
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7727.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
7729.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
兩個重點第一個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
7729.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
7731.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
有關於這個加害人的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
7731.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
7733.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
這不是只是簡單加害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
7733.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
7735.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
這裡面我們還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
7735.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
7737.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
一般我們通常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
7737.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
7739.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
手人所為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
7739.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
7741.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
這裡面會牽到就是說一旦公告之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
7741.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
7743.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
我們也要考慮到那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
7743.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
7745.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
被害人他自己本身的一個隱私 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
7745.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
7747.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
7747.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
7749.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
我們不是要公告被害人我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
7749.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
7751.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
講這個加害人可是這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
7751.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
7753.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
也有牽涉到一個整個相關的 |
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7753.66 |
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7755.66 |
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他的這個隱私保護啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
7755.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
7757.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
事實上我怎麼覺得這個聽起來很 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
7757.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
7759.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
很奇怪你怎麼要公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
7759.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
7761.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
加害人變成是你變成要把被害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
7761.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
7763.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
人扯進去我們並沒有要公開被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
7764.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
7766.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
所以市長這部分你們是不是 |
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7766.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
7768.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
應該要回去好好的檢討我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
7768.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
7770.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
也不只這個在黨委員提 |
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7770.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
7772.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
剛剛好幾位委員我想 |
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7772.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
7774.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
也都有提到這有關於公開的部分 |
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7774.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
7776.94 |
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是不是你們應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
7776.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
7778.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
這個我們回去我們再來做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
7778.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
7780.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
相關的理由我們要保護的是被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
7780.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
7782.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
不是加害人好不好市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
7782.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
7784.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
當然當然最後我還是要呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
7784.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
7786.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
一下市長我們六月的時候有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
7786.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
7788.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
到台中去看庇護工廠沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
7788.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
7790.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
對嘛那你當時我們也知道有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
7790.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
7792.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
很多問題嗎虛擬採購問題也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
7792.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
7794.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
有的問題是是是那甚至也都有統計 |
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7794.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
7796.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
出來差了七至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
7796.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
7798.94 |
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七億到十億啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
7798.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
7800.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
對吧我想市長你也都平平點頭直到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
7800.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
7802.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
這個庇護工廠採購優先採購裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
7802.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
7804.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
充滿很多問題對那當 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
7804.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
7806.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
天我也很高興這個所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
7806.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
7808.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
市長這邊啊當天我們看了幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
7808.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
7810.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
庇護工廠那他們也可以提供 |
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7810.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
7812.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
的服務是還不錯市長當 |
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7812.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
7814.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
當下也想到說未來在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
7814.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
7816.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
長照的部分可以納入這個 |
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7816.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
7818.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
優彩的部分你記不記得 |
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7818.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
7820.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
到這個獨居老人那裡清洗 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
7822.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
這個清洗的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
7823.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
7825.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
相關打掃環境的部分啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
7825.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
7827.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
對沒錯你記得嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
7827.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
7829.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
那你們現在然後後來你也答應本席要檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
7829.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
7831.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
要找這些庇護工廠來開會檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
7831.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
7833.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
那你們現在進度怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
7833.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
7835.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
據我所知你們昨天有開會啊對沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
7835.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
7837.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
所以代表本來就有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
7837.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
7839.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
所以你們昨天才找來檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
7839.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
7841.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
對不對市長包委也非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
7841.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
7843.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
感謝委員對這個問題的關心這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
7843.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
7845.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
就像委員剛剛所說的就有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
7845.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
7847.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
優彩的部分他就是比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
7847.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
7849.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
還有另外就是說各個團體他們之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
7849.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
7851.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
是不是有這一個灌水的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
7851.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
7853.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
所以我們現在目前是在針對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
7853.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
7855.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
昨天的會議主要是針對這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
7855.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
7857.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
另外第二個您剛剛說可是你們昨天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
7857.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
7859.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
好像沒有任何的結論對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
7859.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
7861.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
欸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
7861.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
7863.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
所以其實我想要表達的事情是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
7863.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
7865.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
政府該做什麼做什麼尤其是對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
7865.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
7867.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
這些這些需要被照顧的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
7867.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
7869.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
相關的弱勢團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
7869.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
7871.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
那事實上我們也去看了他們可以提供的服務也很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
7871.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
7873.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
那你們應該要儘速的動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
7873.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
7875.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
而不是把這個弱勢團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
7875.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
7877.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
來當作是政治操作的手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
7877.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
7879.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
來做這樣的政治操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
7879.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
7881.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
我其實看了是蠻生氣的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
7881.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
7883.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
而且還有私底下我憑良心講啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
7883.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
7885.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
私底下當天還有庇護工廠跟我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
7885.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
7887.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
相關的庇護工廠跟我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
7887.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
7889.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
總統府有打電話想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
7889.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
7891.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
叫他們去開記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
7891.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
7893.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
但他們覺得很不合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
7893.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
7895.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
怎麼會把弱勢團體拿來做這樣的政治操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
7895.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
7897.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
所以他們不想要參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
7897.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
7899.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
我跟你說就是這樣以上就到這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
7899.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
7901.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
也請委員我們大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
7901.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
7903.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
一起來關心我們的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
7903.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
7905.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
我也很高興那天你跟我去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
7905.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
7907.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
那個去這個現場去勘察的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
7907.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
7909.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
有很多具體的建議啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
7909.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
7911.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
但是要請你們動作快一點謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
7911.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
7913.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
好感謝委員謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
7912.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
7914.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
好接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
7914.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
7916.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
宣告喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
7916.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
7918.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
待會如現役委員詢答完畢後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
7918.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
7920.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
我們休息十分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
7920.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
7922.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
接下來請黃秀芳委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
7929.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
7931.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
7931.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
7933.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
謝謝主席我們請履次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
7939.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
7941.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
黃委員早安 市長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
7941.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
7943.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
呃市長就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
7944.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
7946.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
我想請教就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
7946.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
7948.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
立法院在8月14號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
7948.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
7950.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
有通過就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
7950.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
7952.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
有關邊刑的這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
7952.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
7954.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
公投提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
7954.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
7956.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
那當然這個還要經過這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
7956.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
7958.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
中選會這邊可能還要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
7958.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
7960.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
再經過審查那是不是會成案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
7960.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
7962.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
可能這幾天就會知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
7962.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
7964.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
那我想請教就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
7964.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
7966.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
7966.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
7968.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
這個未來如果成案之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
7968.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
7970.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
那衛福部你們這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
7970.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
7972.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
7972.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
7974.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
可能未來是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
7974.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
7976.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
要去執行或者是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
7976.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
7978.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
加害人要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
7978.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
7980.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
這個接受邊刑的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
7980.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
7982.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
可能衛福部也需要做一些分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
7982.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
7984.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
譬如說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
7984.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
7986.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
這個加害人的這個身體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
7986.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
7988.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
狀況是怎樣那這個應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
7988.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
7990.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
也是衛福部這邊要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
7990.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
7992.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
所以我想請教就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
7992.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
7994.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
如果這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
7994.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
7996.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
這個公投成案之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
7996.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
7998.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
那衛福部你是不是要去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
7998.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
8000.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
什麼樣的動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
8000.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
8002.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
讓社會大眾來了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
8002.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
8004.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
嗯嗯嗯嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
8004.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
8006.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
非常感謝委員對這個問題的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
8006.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
8008.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
我想大概三個重點啦 第一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
8008.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
8010.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
有關於 呃 邊刑到底要不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
8010.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
8012.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
採行與否 我想這個社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
8012.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
8014.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
我想還有很多人都討論 那陳五剛委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
8014.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
8016.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
剛剛所說的新加坡情況跟台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
8016.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
8018.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
我覺得也不完全 也不完全一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
8018.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
8020.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
那這裡面最重要的應該會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
8020.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
8022.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
牽涉到有關於我們的刑罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
8022.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
8024.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
政策跟席次訴訟法的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
8024.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
8026.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
那這個裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
8026.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
8028.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
我本部不便月除待袍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
8028.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
8030.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
所以這個可能還是要請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
8030.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
8032.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
好那如果中選會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
8032.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
8034.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
就是這個公投成案之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
8034.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
8036.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
也要納入11月28號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
8036.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
8038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
的這個公投 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
8038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
8040.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
那你們衛福部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
8040.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
8042.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
該做什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
8042.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
8044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
這裡面就是剛剛陳五剛委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
8044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
8046.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
這裡面可能會牽涉到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
8046.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
8048.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
有關於這一個加害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
8048.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
8050.04 |
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就是說這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
8050.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
8052.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
可能會判刑的他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
8052.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
8054.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
這一個 到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
8054.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
8056.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
可不可能承受嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
8056.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
8058.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
這裡面可能會牽涉到就是說有關醫療法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
8058.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
8060.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
這裡面相關的一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
8060.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
8062.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
因為這裡面我們可能會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
8062.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
8064.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
會考慮到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
8064.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
8066.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
他的這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
8066.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
8068.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
受刑能力啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
8068.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
8070.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
所以你們現在已經有在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
8070.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
8072.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
開始討論了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
8072.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
8074.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
這個我們必須要跟法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
8074.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
8076.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
這邊再來研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
8076.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
8078.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
好 那就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
8078.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
8080.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
這個案子當然就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
8080.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
8082.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
很多人如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
8082.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
8084.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
這個加害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
8084.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
8086.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
真的是非常的可惡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
8086.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
8088.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
如果說性侵也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
8088.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
8090.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
或者是這個兒女 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
8090.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
8092.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
或者是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
8092.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
8094.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
詐騙 詐欺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
8094.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
8096.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
那這個都會讓所有被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
8096.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
8098.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
或者是一般的民眾看了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
8098.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
8100.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
都會覺得非常的氣憤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
8100.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
8102.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
就是希望能夠重刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
8102.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
8104.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
這個應該多數人都會覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
8104.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
8106.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
這樣子 那當然就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
8106.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
8108.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
如果這個公投成案之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
8108.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
8110.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
那後續不論是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
8110.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
8112.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
法務部也好 衛福部也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
8112.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
8114.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
都要有可能要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
8114.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
8116.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
做一些這個分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
8116.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
8118.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
或者是可能如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
8118.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
8120.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
這個要開始編型 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
8120.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
8122.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
那你們要做什麼樣的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
8122.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
8124.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
一些動作 或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
8124.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
8126.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
可能你們要去分析什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
8126.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
8128.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
也許你們現在就要開始動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
8128.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
8130.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
就是要開始這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
8130.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
8132.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
研擬了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
8132.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
8134.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
另外我想請教就是說剛剛有一些委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
8134.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
8136.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
8136.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
8138.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
譬如說我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
8138.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
8140.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
性侵害防治法當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
8140.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
8142.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
就是性犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
8142.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
8144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
譬如說他處罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
8144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
8146.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
那也接受司法的這個制裁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
8146.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
8148.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
那出獄之後可能會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
8148.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
8150.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
遭到永久性的社會標籤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
8150.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
8152.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
那我是認為就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
8152.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
8154.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
像類似這樣的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
8154.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
8156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
可能會導致 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
8156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
8158.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
譬如說更生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
8158.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
8160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
他要回復到社會的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
8160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
8162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
就是進到社會的話會更困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
8162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
8164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
那第二個的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
8164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
8166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
也許他會增加這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
8166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
8168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
再犯的機率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
8168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
8170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
就是說這個社會都已經不容許我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
8170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
8172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
譬如說他已經更生了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
8172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
8174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
那社會不容許他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
8174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
8176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
再進到就融入這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
8176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
8178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
社會當中 也許他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
8178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
8180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
再犯的機會會更高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
8180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
8182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
另外就是說這個犯罪的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
8182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
8184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
可能就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
8184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
8186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
加害人他會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
8186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
8188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
這個被害人可能就是他周遭的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
8188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
8190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
周遭的朋友或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
8190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
8192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
這個親人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
8192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
8194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
通常都是熟人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
8194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
8196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
那如果今天公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
8196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
8198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
這個加害人的這個所有的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
8198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
8200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
那也許 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
8200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
8202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
被害人也會因為這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
8202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
8204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
被暴露 會被暴露 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
8204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
8206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
那造成這個被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
8206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
8208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
惡毒的一個傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
8208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
8210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
所以我想請教就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
8210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
8212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
衛福部針對這個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
8212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
8214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
犯罪防治 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
8214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
8216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
那被害人的這個保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
8216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
8218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
那你們要怎麼去取得這個平衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
8218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
8220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
我首先兩個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
8220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
8222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
第一個就是剛剛委員所說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
8222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
8224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
那邊刑的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
8224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
8226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
我還是必須要重申一下就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
8226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
8228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
根據醫療法 所謂醫療的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
8228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
8230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
其實主要是指治療 矯正或預防 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
8230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
8232.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
人體疾病傷害等等這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
8232.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
8234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
那這裡面如果有牽涉到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
8234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
8236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
就是有關於這個邊刑的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
8236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
8238.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
諮詢方式還有體況評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
8238.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
8240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
這個可能還是比較屬於刑罰政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
8240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
8242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
所以這個可能比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
8242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
8244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
還是適合法務部他的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
8244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
8246.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
所以這是第一個回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
8246.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
8248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
所以剛剛所說就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
8248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
8250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
我們現在目前如果高風險性侵害犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
8250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
8252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
加害人 那我們之前其實我們有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
8252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
8254.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
跟這個專家學者這邊來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
8254.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
8256.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
現在目前老實說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
8256.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
8258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
還沒有一個一定的定論 原因在於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
8258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
8260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
兩個 第一個就是說你到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
8260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
8262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
就是資訊公 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
8262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
8264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
你把它資訊公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
8264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
8266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
跟加害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
8265.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
8267.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
降低罪犯率 這個中間有沒有一定的因果關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
8267.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
8269.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
老實說到目前國外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
8269.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
8271.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
相關的研究還認為沒有一定的考證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
8271.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
8273.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
這是第一個就是說你用這種方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
8273.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
8275.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
是不是一定不會罪犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
8275.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
8277.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
這是第一個問題 另外第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
8277.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
8279.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
就是我們剛剛還是有說就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
8280.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
8282.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
一般通常會有這個加害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
8282.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
8284.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
通常跟被害人之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
8284.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
8286.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
通常都是熟識 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
8286.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
8288.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
那我們這裡面還是要就是說你現在把它公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
8288.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
8290.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
那人家一定暗圖所計 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
8291.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
8293.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
所以這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
8293.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
8295.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
8294.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
8296.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
會不會對被害人反而造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
8296.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
8298.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
惡毒傷害 而且說來聽去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
8298.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
8300.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
就被公審 那我覺得這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
8300.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
8302.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
就成如 我們也知道就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
8302.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
8304.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
一定要 這一定要保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
8304.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
8306.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
可是這個保護會不會反而 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
8306.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
8308.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
因為這樣的一個措施反而他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
8308.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
8310.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
8309.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
8311.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
他的傷害反而更大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
8311.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
8313.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
所以這個是我們認為就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
8313.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
8315.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
在這個事情上面必須要來謹慎考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
8315.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
8317.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
的一個原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
8317.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
8319.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
我也認為就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
8319.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
8321.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
如果是公佈的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
8321.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
8323.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
當然我們認為就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
8323.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
8325.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
這個加害人公佈 如果不去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
8325.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
8327.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
考慮到被害人的話 也許我們會覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
8327.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
8329.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
把它公佈好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
8329.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
8331.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
讓社會去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
8331.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
8333.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
公審 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
8333.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
8335.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
可是另外一方面我們要再看到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
8335.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
8337.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
也許他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
8337.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
8339.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
這個被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
8339.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
8341.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
就是他的親友 或者是他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
8341.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
8343.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
朋友 那如果是這樣子的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
8343.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
8345.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
會不會對這個被害人是惡毒的傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
8345.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
8347.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
是是 沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
8349.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
8351.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
可能就是會去猜測 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
8351.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
8353.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
會去猜測 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
8353.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
8355.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
所以對被害人就是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
8355.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
8357.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
這個傷害 沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
8357.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
8359.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
所以我覺得說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
8359.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
8361.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
法案 就是任何的一個法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
8361.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
8363.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
要成立其實我覺得都要非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
8363.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
8365.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
嚴謹 比較小心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
8365.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
8367.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
當然就是說 很多委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
8367.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
8369.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
會認為就是說一定要公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
8369.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
8371.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
就是說要公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
8371.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
8373.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
資訊公開 可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
8373.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
8375.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
有時候 我們再回過頭來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
8375.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
8377.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
如果說 剛剛這個次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
8377.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
8379.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
講的 如果這個公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
8379.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
8381.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
8381.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
8383.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
這個加害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
8383.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
8385.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
那被害人可能暗圖所計就會被 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
8385.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
8387.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
也會連帶的也會被 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
8387.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
8389.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
被公開了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
8389.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
8391.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
所以我覺得這個其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
8391.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
8393.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
真的要非常的審慎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
8393.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
8395.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
真的要非常的審慎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
8395.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
8397.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
這也是我們就是說 為什麼對這事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
8397.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
8399.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
我們覺得要謹慎為之的一個最主要原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
8399.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
8401.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
他造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
8401.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
8403.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
那個被害人的惡毒傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
8403.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
8405.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
是 好 那另外就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
8405.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
8407.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
其實這次的這個公投 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
8407.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
8409.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
承案的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
8409.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
8411.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
有關邊刑的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
8411.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
8413.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
其中有一項就是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
8413.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
8415.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
8415.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
8417.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
那當然我會認為就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
8417.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
8419.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
詐騙的這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
8419.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
8421.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
應該是要加強這個反詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
8421.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
8423.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
就是要加強反詐騙的一個宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
8423.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
8425.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
8425.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
8427.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
我覺得說 與其去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
8427.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
8429.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
這個用邊刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
8429.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
8431.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
去編這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
8431.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
8433.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
加害人的話 其實我覺得就是不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
8433.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
8435.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
說被害人嘛 我覺得這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
8435.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
8437.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
反而是更重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
8437.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
8439.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
應該把所有的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
8439.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
8441.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
加強在反詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
8441.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
8443.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
就是就詐騙這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
8443.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
8445.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
我覺得應該要把資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
8445.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
8447.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
投入在反詐騙的這個資訊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
8447.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
8449.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
讓更多人知道就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
8449.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
8451.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
我要怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
8451.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
8453.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
就是預防被騙嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
8453.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
8455.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
前幾天我看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
8455.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
8457.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
一位這個我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
8457.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
8459.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
雲林縣府的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
8459.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
8461.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
政風的主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
8461.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
8463.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
他竟然也會被騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
8463.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
8465.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
136萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
8465.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
8467.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
所以我覺得說反而是應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
8467.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
8469.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
要讓更多的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
8469.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
8471.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
你可能被騙的樣態 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
8471.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
8473.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
非常的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
8473.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
8475.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
應該再讓這些資訊再公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
8475.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
8477.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
然後做更多的一個宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
8477.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
8479.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
更重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
8479.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
8481.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
那接下來我想請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
8481.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
8483.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
就剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
8483.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
8485.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
那個部長有特別提到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
8485.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
8487.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
那個市長有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
8487.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
8489.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
就是說我們如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
8489.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
8491.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
11月28號這個公投 |
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8491.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
8493.24 |
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這個邊行然後陳案之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
8493.24 |
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8495.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
那後續不論是衛福部也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
8495.24 |
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8497.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
或法務部也好 |
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8497.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
8499.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
可能針對這部分未來要去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
8499.24 |
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8501.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
那可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
8501.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
8503.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
有一些相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
8503.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
8505.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
要去做一些研析 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
8505.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
8507.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
可能就是說研究分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
8507.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
8509.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
那我想剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
8509.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
8511.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
市長有特別提到衛福部的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
8511.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
8513.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
那我想請教就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
8513.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
8515.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
就法務部的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
8515.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
8517.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
因為我們一直講說我們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
8517.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
8519.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
可能學習他們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
8519.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
8521.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
就是邊行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
8521.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
8523.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
那這個邊行可能會讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
8523.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
8525.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
這個犯罪率減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
8525.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
8527.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
很多人會覺得是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
8527.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
8529.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
可是我們就整體來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
8529.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
8531.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
新加坡雖然有這個邊行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
8531.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
8533.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
某一部分可能減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
8533.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
8535.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
可是就整體的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
8535.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
8537.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
治安來講其實沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
8537.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
8539.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
沒有比台灣好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
8539.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
8541.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
所以我也希望就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
8541.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
8543.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
就衛福部跟法務部的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
8543.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
8545.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
衛福部跟法務部的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
8545.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
8547.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
衛福部跟法務部的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
8547.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
8549.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
未來如果這個成案之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
8549.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
8551.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
那法務部的部分你們要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
8551.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
8553.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
工作是什麼是不是可以在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
8553.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
8555.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
這個諮詢台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
8555.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
8557.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
然後做一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
8557.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
8559.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
那另外就是說在公投之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
8559.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
8561.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
是不是也讓更多的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
8561.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
8563.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
來了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
8562.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
8564.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
8564.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
8566.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
這邊是不是可以去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
8566.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
8568.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
這個法務部是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
8572.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
8574.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
委員好那法務部在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
8574.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
8576.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
做一個簡單的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
8576.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
8578.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
其實邊行它涉及的是憲法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
8578.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
8580.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
憲法人權跟公約的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
8580.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
8582.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
那當然我們尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
8582.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
8584.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
我們國家的民主法制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
8584.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
8586.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
就是年底的公投的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
8586.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
8588.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
那如果兩公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
8588.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
8590.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
已經內國法化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
8590.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
8592.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
所以我們還是會依法行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
8592.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
8594.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
剛剛委員有提到關於新加坡的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
8594.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
8596.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
其實新加坡在反詐這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
8596.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
8598.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
在詐騙打擊的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
8598.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
8600.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
它不是只用這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
8600.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
8602.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
這個邊行或是提高刑責 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
8602.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
8604.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
這個單方面而已它其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
8604.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
8606.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
也採取了多項跨部會的整合機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
8606.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
8608.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
所以我們也是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
8608.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
8610.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
我們的這個各個部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
8610.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
8612.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
也聯合起來在反詐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
8612.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
8614.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
所以這個部分的話我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
8614.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
8616.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
採取詐騙零容忍的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
8616.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
8618.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
當然這個是一貫的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
8618.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
8620.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
所以這個部分委員剛剛有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
8620.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
8622.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
如果說年底的公投過後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
8622.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
8624.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
我們當然會針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
8624.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
8626.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
年底公投的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
8626.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
8628.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
我們會視公投的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
8628.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
8630.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
結果然後我們一樣會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
8630.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
8632.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
針對這個委員剛剛所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
8632.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
8634.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
邊行的這個部分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
8634.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
8636.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
還有相關的憲法人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
8636.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
8638.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
公約的議題來做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
8638.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
8640.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
綜合的評估跟審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
8640.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
8642.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
評估跟審佐這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
8642.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
8644.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
好謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
8644.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
8646.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
好任何一個犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
8646.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
8648.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
當然我們在立法院這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
8648.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
8650.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
當然就這個加害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
8650.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
8652.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
這個加重刑者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
8652.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
8654.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
我覺得這個大家都可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
8654.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
8656.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
那在這個公開的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
8656.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
8658.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
這個部分其實我覺得應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
8658.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
8660.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
好好的去審思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
8660.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
8662.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
加害者的公布 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
8662.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
8664.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
會不會是連帶的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
8664.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
8666.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
被害者也會被暗圖所計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
8666.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
8668.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
公布出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
8668.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
8670.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
那對被害者是二度的傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
8670.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
8672.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
我覺得這一點真的要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
8672.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
8674.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
好好的去考慮一下不然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
8674.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
8676.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
萬一如果真的這個我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
8676.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
8678.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
修法又通過之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
8678.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
8680.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
其實我們不願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
8680.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
8682.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
看到任何一個被害人是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
8682.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
8684.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
又二度傷害的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
8684.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
8686.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
所以在這邊再請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
8686.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
8688.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
針對這部分可能在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
8688.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
8690.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
未來溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
8690.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
8692.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
非常的重要好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
8692.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
8694.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
非常感謝委員的提示謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
8694.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
8696.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
謝謝修法委員發言接下來請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
8696.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
8698.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
莊瑞雄召委發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
8710.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
8712.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
8712.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
8714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
謝謝主席有請我們衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
8714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
8716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
理次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
8716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
8718.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
有請理次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
8717.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
8719.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
今天法務部也要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
8719.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
8723.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
法務部我們就請陳主任檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
8723.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
8725.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
陳主任檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
8725.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
8727.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
我看這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
8727.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
8729.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
政政署也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
8729.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
8731.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
政政署要叫什麼人來執掌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
8733.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
8735.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
副組長嗎還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
8735.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
8737.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
副組長好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
8737.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
8739.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
還有我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
8739.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
8741.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
我們署法部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
8741.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
8743.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
我們來個副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
8743.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
8745.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
產業我就不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
8745.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
8747.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
產業今天比較議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
8747.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
8749.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
比較沒有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
8749.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
8751.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
我們來的是副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
8751.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
8753.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
副署長或副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
8753.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
8755.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
副署長起來一下好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
8755.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
8757.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
那我想今天我先請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
8757.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
8759.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
次長還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
8759.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
8761.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
幾位各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
8761.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
8763.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
8763.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
8765.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
這個網路科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
8765.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
8767.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
一直在往前這樣跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
8767.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
8769.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
那兒少的一個保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
8769.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
8771.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
我們似乎一直在跟在後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
8771.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
8773.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
那當然跟過去的時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
8773.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
8775.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
來做比較的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
8775.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
8777.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
其實都是在進步 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
8777.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
8779.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
那如果涉及到整個性侵害的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
8779.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
8781.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
一個防治條例跟兒少的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
8781.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
8783.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
一個剝削 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
8783.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
8785.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
這個其實也不只是外匯部的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
8785.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
8787.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
就是砍斷兒少的保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
8787.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
8789.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
我其實涉及到整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
8789.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
8791.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
犯罪的一個偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
8791.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
8793.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
甚至都涉及到整個NCC |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
8793.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
8795.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
還有訴發部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
8795.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
8797.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
你說安全要怎麼分級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
8797.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
8799.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
要怎麼去做一個審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
8799.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
8801.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
這也都大家都有接應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
8801.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
8803.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
但是我今天其實我只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
8803.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
8805.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
三件事要問我剛很仔細的在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
8805.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
8807.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
台下這樣聽喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
8807.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
8809.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
我反而認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
8809.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
8811.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
第一個就是說像我們今天審查這樣的一個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
8811.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
8813.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
在聯席裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
8813.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
8815.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
本席到去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
8813.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
8815.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
剛剛我去本來我不是想問這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
8815.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
8817.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
可是我聽完以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
8817.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
8819.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
我還覺得我要把題目來變更一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
8819.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
8821.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
我簡單地寫了幾個題目就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
8821.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
8823.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
你這個網路 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
8823.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
8825.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
性影像裡面我們這樣在審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
8825.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
8827.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
條例這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
8827.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
8829.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
其實你到底有沒有辦法抓得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
8829.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
8831.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
8831.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
8833.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
現在這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
8833.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
8835.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
網路電源一件事脫衣高風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
8835.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
8837.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
AI這個我們到底是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
8837.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
8839.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
冠會對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
8838.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
8840.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
是不是冠會對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
8840.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
8842.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
當然最後面就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
8842.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
8844.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
孩子到最後受害以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
8844.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
8846.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
政府是不是接得住 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
8846.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
8848.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
當然就是衛福部這邊可能就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
8848.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
8850.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
必須要去好好的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
8850.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
8852.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
思考這樣的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
8852.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
8854.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
政府現在用AI |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
8855.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
8857.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
抓性影像是不是抓得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
8857.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
8859.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
以前都檢舉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
8859.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
8861.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
8861.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
8863.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
現在不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
8863.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
8865.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
你看我們在113年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
8865.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
8867.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
我們去因應社會矚目的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
8867.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
8869.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
去為了加強兒少的一個保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
8869.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
8871.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
你把你也刪除通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
8871.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
8873.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
這個兒少的性剝削防治條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
8873.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
8875.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
即時封王 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
8875.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
8877.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
即時封王 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
8877.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
8879.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
要主動去做一個巡查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
8879.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
8881.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
但是我看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
8881.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
8883.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
以現在成效來看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
8883.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
8885.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
113年過後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
8885.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
8887.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
你現在看你現在成效你感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
8887.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
8889.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
尤其是這個政府主動巡查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
8889.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
8891.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
主動下架這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
8891.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
8893.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
你看成效怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
8893.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
8895.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
我也在委員吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
8895.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
8897.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
Russell Burger |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
8897.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
8899.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
這個確實我們就有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
8899.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
8901.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
受理大概到15年8月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
8901.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
8903.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
總共 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
8903.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
8905.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
申訴案件19件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
8905.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
8907.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
成人deepfake大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
8907.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
8909.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
65件也總共 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
8909.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
8911.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
一百多件而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
8911.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
8913.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
市長我剛才怎麼開宗明義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
8913.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
8915.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
我就跟你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
8915.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
8917.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
科技一直往前跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
8917.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
8919.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
我們這個對兒少的一個保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
8919.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
8921.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
我們是後面一直在追 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
8921.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
8923.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
才會像你講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
8923.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
8925.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
現在講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
8925.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
8927.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
你要怎麼算算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
8927.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
8929.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
你追我剛才有準備到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
8929.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
8931.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
你一拍而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
8931.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
8933.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
我們這個其實實際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
8933.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
8935.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
跟整個網路世界裡面在流竄的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
8935.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
8937.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
那差太遠了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
8937.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
8939.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
我們這個本地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
8939.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
8941.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
我們這個算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
8942.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
8944.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
算老歐的你知不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
8944.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
8946.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
你去把它看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
8946.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
8948.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
隨時去看那個很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
8948.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
8950.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
網路上的一個暗語 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
8950.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
8952.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
都是我們本土 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
8952.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
8954.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
發展出來的一個比較在地化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
8954.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
8956.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
什麼抓什麼喝茶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
8956.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
8958.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
茶滋茶溫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
8958.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
8960.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
現在網路的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
8960.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
8962.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
這些暗語 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
8962.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
8964.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
這實在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
8964.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
8966.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
大家都很清楚我年輕的都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
8966.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
8968.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
但是我知道你們也意識到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
8968.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
8970.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
但問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
8970.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
8972.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
你說等到100、106年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
8972.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
8973.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
就是說每年8月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
8973.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
8975.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
你開始要上線嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
8975.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
8977.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
你開始要上線就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
8977.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
8979.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
你現在上線我現在比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
8979.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
8981.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
CUT |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
8980.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
8982.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
CUT這個疑問就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
8982.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
8984.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
你們那個標準會是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
8984.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
8986.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
為什麼還要等一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
8986.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
8988.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
你們是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
8988.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
8990.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
問你我覺得這一定是跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
8990.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
8992.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
8992.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
8994.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
你説連教育部課程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
8994.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
8996.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
你說整個AID網路上這樣氾濫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
8996.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
8998.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
教育部難道不用在課程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
8998.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
9000.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
多弄一些宣導嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
9000.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
9002.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
以前這個全部都檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
9002.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
9004.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
有沒有妨礙風化的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
9004.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
9006.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
現在涉及到已經不是這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
9006.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
9008.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
那好你說明年要上線 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
9008.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
9010.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
為什麼要等到明年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
9010.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
9012.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
133年就通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
9012.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
9014.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
你說要主動去做一個巡查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
9014.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
9016.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
這不簡單喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
9016.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
9018.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
我怎麼想我也不會想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
9018.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
9020.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
主動巡查變衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
9020.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
9022.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
那是因為牽扯到兒少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
9022.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
9024.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
不過我一直想說這是衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
9028.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
9031.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
當然你說在華務叫檢察官去查這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
9031.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
9033.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
他哪有人力檢察官辦案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
9033.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
9035.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
分層節制底下去做一個犯罪偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
9035.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
9037.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
他們有分工嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
9037.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
9040.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
但是會把這個丟到衛福部這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
9041.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
9044.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
當然就是說希望你們盡更大一點的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
9044.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
9046.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
但問題你們做得到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
9046.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
9048.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
很誠實的維穩報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
9048.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
9050.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
9049.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
9050.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
這個沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
9050.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
9052.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
那個通過我們就是承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
9052.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
9054.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
但是陳府委員剛剛所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
9054.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
9056.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
這裡面牽到所謂政策工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
9056.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
9058.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
跟監測工具的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
9059.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
9061.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
你怎麼那麼多人去主動巡查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
9061.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
9063.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
我們當然是這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
9063.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
9065.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
我們當然是委託 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
9065.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
9067.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
我們是委託 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
9067.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
9069.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
你們到時候要去寫這個的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
9069.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
9071.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
好像也要NCC吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
9071.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
9073.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
對啊 當然你要封網一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
9073.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
9075.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
我們也是要通過NCC還有那個訴發部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
9075.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
9077.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
訴發部也非常幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
9077.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
9079.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
他們整個就是屏蔽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
9079.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
9081.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
但是那些他們也非常非常幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
9081.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
9083.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
那我現在先跟委員先講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
9083.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
9085.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
報告一下就是說這裡面有一個很重要的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
9085.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
9087.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
現在就是說那個所謂提示詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
9087.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
9089.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
關鍵字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
9089.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
9091.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
那個東西確實是像委員說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
9092.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
9094.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
那不用多久了 又改了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
9094.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
9096.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
你抓以後 AIP也更聰明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
9096.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
9098.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
我跟你講 你要犯罪的人很聰明的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
9098.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
9100.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
你現在 我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
9100.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
9102.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
譬如說我們打炸2.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
9102.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
9104.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
你2.0你2.0又炸到都輸人了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
9104.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
9106.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
9106.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
9108.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
他們做生意的人都有一個Bitchnips Model |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
9108.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
9110.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
那都一直在升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
9110.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
9112.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
我們只能後面這樣去趕啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
9112.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
9114.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
這樣去追啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
9114.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
9116.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
所以我要說的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
9116.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
9118.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
你明年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
9118.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
9120.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
拖到明年的原因是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
9120.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
9122.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
最主要是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
9122.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
9124.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
我們現在目前就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
9124.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
9126.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
跟委員報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
9126.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
9128.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
我們現在目前就是密集在找這些專家學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
9128.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
9130.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
在那邊其實也牽到警政檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
9130.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
9132.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
被害人團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
9132.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
9136.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
他們要趕快把那個所謂提示詞關鍵字那一扁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
9136.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
9138.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
趕快把它建起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
9138.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
9140.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
我們現在目前是在這個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
9140.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
9142.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
台灣有很多被害人團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
9142.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
9144.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
還有很多社福團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
9144.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
9146.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
這些人就是在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
9146.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
9148.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
做出很多的貢獻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
9148.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
9150.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
但是問題就是意見啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
9150.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
9152.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
你很難做一個整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
9152.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
9154.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
很多人關心會花費很大的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
9154.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
9156.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
我也知道這個會無視你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
9156.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
9158.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
但沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
9158.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
9160.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
這個要對於俄哨更加大的一個支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
9160.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
9162.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
但我期待啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
9162.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
9164.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
這個你們這個標準要趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
9164.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
9166.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
做好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
9166.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
9168.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
不然這個你還在告美年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
9168.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
9170.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
我們現在有一個機制調教的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
9170.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
9172.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
9172.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
9174.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
但問題就是說你這個多久可以下架啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
9174.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
9176.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
你說到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
9176.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
9178.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
要怎麼說外界來做一個檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
9178.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
9180.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
9180.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
9182.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
我只看你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
9182.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
9184.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
你們跟蘇花部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
9184.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
9186.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
只要你們要怎麼做風險的分級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
9186.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
9188.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
跟安全的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
9188.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
9190.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
這個制度你們就要擺一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
9190.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
9192.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
9192.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
9194.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
這113年就過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
9194.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
9196.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
我希望你們可以做得更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
9196.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
9198.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
當然因為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
9198.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
9200.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
這個保護真的不能等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
9200.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
9202.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
那當然啦第二個你看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
9202.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
9204.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
現在很難去想像 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
9204.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
9206.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
我記得20幾年我忘記了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
9206.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
9208.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
那個時候換臉的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
9209.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
9211.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
連蔡總統都被人家換臉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
9211.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
9213.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
那時候我去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
9213.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
9215.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
我去接訊之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
9215.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
9217.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
我要求說這個不能開玩笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
9217.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
9219.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
不是因為總統身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
9219.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
9221.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
而是連總統都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
9221.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
9223.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
被這樣子其他的女性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
9223.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
9225.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
那是不得了當然很快就去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
9225.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
9227.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
一個破案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
9227.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
9229.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
但問題就是說我們也可以去預想的到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
9229.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
9231.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
當初就預想的到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
9231.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
9233.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
網路App裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
9233.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
9235.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
一鍵托一都出現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
9235.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
9237.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
這你也可以去拘捕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
9237.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
9239.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
你抓人而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
9239.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
9241.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
AI有夠方便的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
9241.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
9243.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
方便到你現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
9243.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
9245.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
要換人只要有這個App |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
9245.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
9247.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
我先到社群裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
9247.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
9249.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
我要去抓你們任何人只要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
9249.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
9251.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
有社群的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
9251.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
9253.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
你們只要有放上照片我就可以把你抓下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
9253.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
9255.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
一抓下來App一打上去以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
9255.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
9257.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
他氣下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
9257.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
9259.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
什麼在灑果湯料料 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
9259.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
9261.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
什麼一鍵托一馬上就生成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
9261.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
9263.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
那像這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
9263.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
9265.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
AI這麼的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
9265.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
9267.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
進步 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
9268.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
9270.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
這狗派其實不是只拖暈而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
9270.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
9272.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
還少做社群影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
9272.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
9274.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
這很麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
9274.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
9276.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
對成年人來講當然會提告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
9276.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
9278.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
還有一些不要去主動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
9278.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
9280.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
回去保護自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
9280.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
9282.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
但對兒少來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
9282.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
9284.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
他什麼事情都沒有做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
9284.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
9286.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
這些影像 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
9286.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
9288.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
就在網路上這樣流傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
9288.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
9290.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
對他整個未來或他整個人際關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
9290.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
9292.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
造成都非常大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
9292.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
9294.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
非常大的一個影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
9294.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
9296.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
你現在法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
9296.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
9298.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
制作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
9298.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
9300.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
散佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
9300.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
9302.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
9302.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
9304.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
我覺得最重要的就是對這個平台的保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
9305.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
9307.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
政府的對策是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
9307.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
9309.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
要怎麼去做一個加重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
9309.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
9311.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
所以說是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
9311.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
9313.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
這樣你市長可以簡單說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
9313.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
9315.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
你們準備要怎麼管 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
9315.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
9317.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
非常感謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
9317.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
9319.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
我們具體來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
9319.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
9321.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
其實我跟我們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
9321.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
9323.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
這個案子5月8號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
9323.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
9325.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
兒少信剝削防治諮詢會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
9325.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
9327.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
就很多團體提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
9327.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
9329.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
我們具體的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
9329.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
9331.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
我們現在正在跟訴發部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
9331.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
9333.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
有一個所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
9333.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
9335.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
技術提供者事前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
9335.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
9337.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
風險分級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
9337.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
9339.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
我們現在正在做風險分級的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
9341.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
9343.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
這樣而已,你現在只做到這裡而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
9343.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
9345.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
所以這就是你剛才說的只一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
9346.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
9348.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
你說我們的工具還剩的是太少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
9348.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
9350.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
我都不願意去剋責 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
9350.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
9352.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
衛福部的原因在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
9352.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
9354.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
衛福部本地你就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
9354.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
9356.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
比較早在事後發生以後去保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
9356.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
9358.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
事前要防範 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
9358.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
9360.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
我跟你們做不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
9360.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
9362.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
你只這個平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
9362.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
9364.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
你說你要管得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
9364.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
9366.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
你的專業就不是在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
9366.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
9368.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
你說連接 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
9368.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
9370.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
大部分都是犯罪事後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
9370.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
9372.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
在做偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
9372.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
9374.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
主動去防範 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
9374.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
9376.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
訴發部副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
9376.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
9378.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
我覺得這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
9378.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
9380.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
你們要有比較大的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
9380.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
9382.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
譬如說你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
9382.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
9384.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
要怎麼說風險分級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
9384.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
9386.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
在Apple平台裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
9386.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
9388.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
尤其是安全審查的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
9388.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
9390.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
這就算你們管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
9391.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
9393.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
你說當然出了廢話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
9393.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
9395.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
要怎麼去及時去下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
9395.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
9397.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
要怎麼去封王 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
9397.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
9399.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
這個好像又不是你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
9399.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
9401.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
那是你們還是NCC |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
9401.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
9403.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
跟委員這邊來做一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
9403.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
9405.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
我大概從幾個層面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
9405.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
9407.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
那陳如剛剛次長這邊提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
9407.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
9411.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
就是說有關於這個風險分類分級的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
9411.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
9413.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
其實訴發部跟衛福部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
9413.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
9415.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
已經一起在做這個部分的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
9415.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
9417.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
那未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
9417.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
9419.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
這個訴發部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
9419.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
9421.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
衛福部也會將相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
9421.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
9423.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
可能會涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
9423.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
9425.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
一件脫衣這樣的一個題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
9425.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
9427.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
也會給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
9427.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
9429.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
我們會去就市面上一些大家常用的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
9429.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
9431.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
AI的模型去做一些檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
9431.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
9433.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
那這些檢測報告出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
9433.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
9435.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
也會公佈給大家知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
9435.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
9437.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
這個是第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
9437.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
9439.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
那第二個就是剛剛其實委員在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
9439.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
9441.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
對於網路廣告平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
9441.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
9443.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
他們這個如果有這樣的一個情況的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
9443.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
9445.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
應該怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
9445.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
9447.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
那但是後我們只要發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
9447.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
9449.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
當然我們就可以讓我們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
9449.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
9451.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
去做這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
9451.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
9453.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
封網的動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
9453.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
9455.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
或者是說停止解析 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
9455.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
9457.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
這樣的一個網頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
9457.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
9459.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
但是其實我們也有透過這個我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
9459.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
9461.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
因為之前我們這個防災 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
9461.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
9463.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
本來就有個聯繫平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
9463.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
9465.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
聯防平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
9465.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
9467.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
所以針對包括說這些比較大型的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
9467.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
9469.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
這個平台業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
9469.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
9471.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
我們也會要求他們要先做一個自律 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
9471.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
9473.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
所以其實他們自己本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
9473.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
9475.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
也會去事前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
9475.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
9477.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
去做一些這個網路的一個掃描 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
9477.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
9479.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
針對有這樣的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
9479.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
9481.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
他們就會先提早做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
9481.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
9483.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
下架的一個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
9483.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
9485.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
這個部分跟委員先做一個補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
9485.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
9487.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
我剛才想到說這個整個AI高度發展以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
9487.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
9489.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
你不要說是兒少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
9489.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
9491.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
你只要想一件脫衣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
9491.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
9493.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
那個是多可怕的一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
9493.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
9495.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
各位每個人有社群的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
9495.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
9497.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
你有照片放上去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
9497.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
9499.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
每一個人都有這樣的一個風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
9499.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
9501.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
這是我覺得這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
9501.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
9503.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
很可怕的一個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
9503.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
9505.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
所以我剛才問市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
9505.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
9507.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
你跟我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
9507.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
9509.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
廠費的那十九件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
9509.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
9511.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
成人六十九件都只差一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
9511.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
9513.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
我沒辦法跟你說你們現在大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
9513.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
9515.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
還在研討你只知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
9515.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
9517.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
真正的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
9517.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
9519.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
現在呈現的數字跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
9519.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
9521.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
真正現在網路世界存在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
9521.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
9523.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
那個落差會有多大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
9523.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
9525.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
那是很可怕的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
9525.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
9527.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
我最後要請教就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
9527.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
9529.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
那這些被救下來以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
9529.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
9531.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
我們台灣跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
9531.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
9533.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
去做一個合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
9533.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
9535.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
我看你們今天剛好好像也在跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
9535.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
9537.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
在開會是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
9537.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
9539.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
你們的標準到底是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
9539.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
9541.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
我現在比較擔心的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
9541.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
9543.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
你北部譬如說台北 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
9543.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
9545.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
台北還是新北 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
9545.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
9547.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
這個都會的地方標準你比較高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
9547.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
9549.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
但是你對於比較偏鄉的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
9549.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
9551.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
各縣市來看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
9551.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
9553.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
你變成有的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
9553.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
9555.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
有利己危險 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
9555.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
9557.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
趕快開案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
9557.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
9559.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
如果沒有利己危險就轉一般服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
9559.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
9561.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
你的標準到底會怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
9561.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
9563.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
要讓各個縣市要一次的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
9563.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
9565.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
請次長來做一個回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
9565.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
9567.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
非常感謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
9567.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
9569.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
我們現在目前就是說您剛所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
9569.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
9571.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
就是今天其實不光今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
9571.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
9573.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
我們之前其實有跟召集地方政府的社會局 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
9573.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
9575.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
他們那邊趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
9575.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
9577.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
這個就是所謂的判斷基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
9577.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
9579.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
這個要趕快來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
9579.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
9581.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
你說你開案的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
9581.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
9583.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
你評估起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
9583.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
9585.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
一方面是開案的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
9585.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
9587.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
另外一方面就是處遇計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
9587.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
9589.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
就是說你現在有的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
9589.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
9591.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
趕快這邊其實有分級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
9591.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
9593.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
分級分類的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
9593.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
9595.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
我們趕快現在目前在跟地方政府的社會局 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
9595.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
9597.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
就在做這個事情的整個標準化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
9597.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
9599.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
所以還是回到我開頭問你的那一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
9599.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
9601.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
這科技都一直在走 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
9601.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
9603.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
我們這個保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
9603.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
9605.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
真的在一直後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
9605.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
9607.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
一直在追 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
9607.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
9609.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
跟蘇發普家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
9609.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
9611.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
跟高雄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
9611.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
9613.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
跟蘇發普家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
9613.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
9615.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
跟高雄保家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
9615.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
9617.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
甚至跟法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
9617.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
9619.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
還有NCC |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
9619.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
9621.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
速度真的還是要加快 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
9621.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
9623.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
不然我看我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
9623.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
9625.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
一百十三年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
9625.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
9627.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
我們就這樣通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
9627.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
9629.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
整個社會的一個安全網 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
9629.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
9631.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
要把它堵起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
9631.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
9633.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
你說要怎麼去及時封網 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
9633.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
9635.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
要怎麼去做一個主動的巡查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
9635.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
9637.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
9637.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
9639.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
本來以為都法律在後面追 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
9639.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
9641.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
那現在有一點不一樣了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
9641.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
9643.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
就是說我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
9643.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
9645.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
政府應該去主動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
9645.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
9647.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
出擊這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
9647.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
9649.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
各部位都要加油好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
9649.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
9651.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
OK 感謝委員謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
9651.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
9653.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
好謝謝莊瑞雄召委發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
9653.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
9655.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
接下來請盧憲英召委發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
9665.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
9667.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
好謝謝主席有請呂次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
9667.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
9669.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
有請呂次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
9671.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
9673.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
您好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
9701.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
9703.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
就是看能不能真正的降低風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
9703.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
9705.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
所以今天討論了加害人登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
9705.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
9707.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
報到查訪身心自治 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
9707.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
9709.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
輔導教育及高風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
9709.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
9711.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
資訊的揭露看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
9711.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
9713.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
是不同的制度但其實都是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
9713.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
9715.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
處理同一件事情就是社區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
9715.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
9717.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
的監督不能出現空窗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
9717.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
9719.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
風險也不能再次發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
9719.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
9721.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
傷害之後才能夠被看見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
9721.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
9723.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
所以想知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
9723.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
9725.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
次長的看見是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
9725.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
9727.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
除空窗大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
9727.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
9729.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
發生在哪兩個類型 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
9729.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
9731.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
我們這個部分主要第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
9731.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
9733.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
就是剛剛說的保護性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
9733.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
9735.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
另外一個就是說特別是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
9735.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
9737.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
對兒少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
9737.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
9739.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
這邊的一個領域 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
9739.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
9741.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
這個都是相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
9741.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
9743.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
比較容易出現的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
9743.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
9745.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
除空窗大概爬速了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
9745.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
9747.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
大概知道是在一科法監的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
9747.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
9749.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
還有就是被 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
9749.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
9751.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
移送偵辦的時候會出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
9751.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
9753.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
的處於空窗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
9753.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
9755.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
我想說現行的法律就規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
9755.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
9757.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
尤其投行如果主要以意符社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
9757.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
9759.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
勞動不必等到行其執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
9759.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
9761.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
完畢就可以主義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
9761.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
9763.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
社會勞動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
9763.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
9765.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
的時候就可以啟動身心治療跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
9765.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
9767.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
輔導教育等評估處境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
9767.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
9769.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
可是沒有入監執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
9769.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
9771.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
的一科法監現行的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
9771.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
9773.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
並沒有相同的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
9773.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
9775.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
所以一個人的我想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
9775.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
9777.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
是不是這個一科法監跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
9780.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
9782.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
這個與宋偵辦的時候是不是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
9782.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
9784.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
他的起點呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
9784.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
9786.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
除役起點是不是應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
9786.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
9788.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
這樣的一個修法方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
9788.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
9790.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
9790.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
9792.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
同意這方面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
9792.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
9794.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
支持這個修法方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
9794.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
9796.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
包委員我完全支持而且剛剛委員您 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
9796.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
9798.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
所說的這些我們基本上也已經送 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
9798.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
9800.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
到行政院的版本裡面也已經納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
9800.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
9802.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
我們這個是非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
9802.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
9804.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
就是這個您剛剛說工裝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
9804.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
9806.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
機的部分這個透過這個方式可以有效 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
9806.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
9808.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
來來來彌平 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
9808.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
9810.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
再來就是說我們現在講到加害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
9810.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
9812.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
的資訊揭露 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
9812.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
9814.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
由委員的版本提出就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
9814.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
9816.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
已經採取分級的制度就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
9816.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
9818.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
不是所有的加害人一律公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
9818.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
9820.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
然後揭露的資訊也不是毫無限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
9820.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
9822.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
可是要討論是面對經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
9822.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
9824.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
專業評估認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
9824.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
9826.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
一定有再犯風險的個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
9826.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
9828.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
我們能不能依照比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
9828.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
9830.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
原則採取分級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
9830.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
9832.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
分對象分區域分期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
9832.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
9834.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
的一個必要通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
9834.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
9836.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
對就是說對評估就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
9836.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
9838.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
什麼級別以上的再犯風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
9838.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
9840.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
經常活動在學校幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
9840.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
9842.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
或托育機構的附近的一個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
9842.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
9844.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
是否可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
9844.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
9846.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
延溢向特定學校機構一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
9846.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
9848.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
的範圍內做必要對象的通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
9848.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
9850.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
9851.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
9853.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
9881.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
9883.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
9911.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
9923.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
通過我們兒少家屬的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
9923.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
9925.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
對那我想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
9925.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
9927.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
現在第三條明文規定說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
9927.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
9929.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
主管機構應該獨立編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
9929.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
9931.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
預算並設置專職人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
9931.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
9933.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
辦理兒童及少年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
9933.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
9935.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
性不需要防制業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
9935.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
9937.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
所以本席想請問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
9937.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
9939.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
會不是否掌握了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
9939.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
9941.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
全國22個縣市各自編列多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
9941.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
9943.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
兒少性剝削的防治預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
9943.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
9945.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
有沒有預計核定多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
9945.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
9947.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
的專職人員然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
9947.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
9949.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
有實際到指的多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
9949.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
9951.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
然後有多少名義上是專職人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
9951.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
9953.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
可是實際上他還是兼辦家暴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
9953.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
9955.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
兒保性侵害其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
9955.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
9957.15 |
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社政的案件所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
9957.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
9959.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
我想知道說目前每名人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
9959.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
9961.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
平均負擔多少案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
9961.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
9963.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
所以我想說有一個具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
9963.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
9965.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
訴求然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
9965.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
9967.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
希望如果不能夠在一個月內向本委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
9967.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
9969.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
會提出22縣市的盤點報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
9969.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
9971.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
至少應該要包括這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
9971.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
9973.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
兒少性剝削的獨立預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
9973.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
9975.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
中央補助與地方自籌的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
9975.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
9977.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
核定及實際到指的專職人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
9977.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
9979.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
缺額跟兼辦的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
9979.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
9981.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
平均案量及 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
9981.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
9983.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
本次修法新增業務所需要的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
9983.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
9985.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
跟經費評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
9985.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
9987.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
所以我想說不要再用全國保護性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
9987.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
9989.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
社工來整人數來回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
9989.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
9991.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
我想說從第三條第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
9991.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
9993.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
所要求的兒少性剝削防治 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
9993.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
9995.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
的專職讓能看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
9995.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
9997.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
怎麼來落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
9997.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
9999.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
非常感謝委員的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
9999.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
10001.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
完全支持委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
10001.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
10003.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
也非常感謝委員對於我們保護性社工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
10003.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
10005.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
一個支持那我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
10005.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
10007.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
牽涉到有關於地方政府這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
10007.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
10009.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
有關於性剝削的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
10009.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
10011.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
如果沒有記錯大概56位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
10011.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
10013.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
詳細的數字我再跟您回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
10013.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
10015.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
可是這裡面其實我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
10015.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
10017.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
都發 我們也知道他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
10017.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
10019.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
case loading就是說他的每案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
10019.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
10021.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
負擔量其實真的是蠻大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
10021.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
10023.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
所以這裡面也非常感謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
10023.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
10025.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
的一個支持我們也會來跟人總這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
10025.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
10027.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
趕快請他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
10027.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
10029.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
把這個相關的人力把它補足 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
10029.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
10030.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
那至於委員剛剛所 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
10030.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
10032.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
槌尋的相關的一些數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
10032.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
10034.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
是不是容許我會後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
10034.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
10036.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
趕快提供給委員來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
10036.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
10038.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
參佐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
10038.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
10040.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
今年7月刑法第80條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
10040.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
10042.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
已經修正公布針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
10042.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
10044.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
特定為成年性侵害被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
10044.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
10046.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
法律在明定被害人們20歲以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
10046.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
10048.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
不盡會刑事追溯其傾向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
10048.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
10050.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
可是最主要是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
10050.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
10052.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
這個民法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
10052.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
10054.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
實際上沒有必修 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
10054.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
10056.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
所以想說這個部分是不是也 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
10056.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
10058.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
支持就是現行實行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
10058.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
10060.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
客觀期間的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
10060.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
10062.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
還是說另外的延長時效 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
10062.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
10064.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
還是至少比照刑事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
10064.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
10066.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
修法的精神在被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
10066.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
10068.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
未成年期間不計入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
10068.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
10070.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
等到具備一定這種能力才 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
10070.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
10072.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
開始計算的民事求償的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
10074.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
10076.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
OK非常感謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
10076.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
10078.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
因為這可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
10078.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
10080.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
有關民法修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
10080.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
10082.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
這可能牽涉到這個司法機關這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
10082.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
10084.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
所以就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
10085.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
10087.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
10087.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
10089.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
沒關係就是讓你知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
10089.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
10091.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
希望以後在修法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
10091.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
10093.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
跟刑事跟民事都可以對齊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
10093.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
10095.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
跟司法機關這邊法務部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
10095.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
10097.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
我們來一個相關研商 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
10097.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
10099.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
謝謝最後就是我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
10099.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
10101.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
的資訊斷絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
10101.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
10103.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
的部分如何補齊這32條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
10103.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
10105.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
之一有在一黨跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
10105.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
10107.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
執政黨的委員都有提出就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
10107.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
10109.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
認為說不能再 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
10109.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
10111.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
讓司法歸司法設政 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
10111.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
10113.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
教育歸教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
10113.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
10115.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
然後最後每一個機關首相都是一小塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
10115.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
10117.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
沒有人看到一個完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
10117.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
10119.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
10119.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
10121.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
對偵查中必要取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
10121.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
10123.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
資訊以及取訴後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
10123.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
10125.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
司法資訊主動銜接主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
10125.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
10127.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
機關這兩件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
10127.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
10129.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
會不會是不是支持這樣一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
10129.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
10131.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
制度化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
10132.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
10134.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
其實我們現在目前現行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
10134.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
10136.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
其實都有相關的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
10136.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
10138.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
這主要是家庭暴力及性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
10138.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
10140.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
電子資料庫管理使用辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
10140.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
10142.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
第四條這裡面其實都裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
10142.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
10144.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
有規範到就是我們跟司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
10144.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
10146.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
還有法務部那邊的一個相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
10146.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
10148.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
的一個合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
10148.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
10150.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
10150.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
10152.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
就是說希望真的在下一次傷害之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
10152.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
10154.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
先把人接住把漏洞補起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
10154.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
10156.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
10156.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
10158.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
非常感謝盧委員的一個捶詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
10158.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
10160.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
謝謝盧縣議員召委發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
10160.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
10162.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
我們現在休息十分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
10182.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
10184.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
10735.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
10737.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
再見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
10737.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
10739.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
現在開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
10739.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
10741.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
張老林委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
10741.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
10743.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
接著請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
10744.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
10746.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
范雲委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
10746.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
10748.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
尋檔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
10755.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
10757.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
謝謝主席 |
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10757.8 |
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我想請次長 |
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10759.92 |
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10761.92 |
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有請次長 |
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10761.92 |
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10763.92 |
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幫我拿那根遙控器 |
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10763.92 |
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10765.92 |
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謝謝 |
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10765.17 |
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10767.17 |
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好 |
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10766.87 |
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10768.87 |
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次長 |
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10768.87 |
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10770.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
今天大家在討論性影像 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
10770.87 |
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10772.87 |
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事法 那次長應該知道 |
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10772.87 |
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這是我們上一屆 |
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10774.87 |
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10776.87 |
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本來我跟婦女團體 |
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10776.87 |
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10778.87 |
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我們要的是專法 |
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10780.87 |
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可是當時行政院覺得專法 |
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10780.87 |
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就是可能太多法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
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10784.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
有些人從法律不同的見解 |
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10784.87 |
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10786.87 |
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所以後來變成四法連防 |
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10786.87 |
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10788.87 |
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那這個四法連防呢 |
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10788.87 |
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10790.87 |
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所以我想我們後來就是 |
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10790.87 |
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10792.87 |
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有刑法犯罪被害人保護法 |
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10792.87 |
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10794.87 |
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性侵害犯罪防治法 |
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10794.87 |
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10796.87 |
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兒少性剝削防治條例 |
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10796.87 |
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10798.87 |
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修正通過 |
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10798.87 |
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10800.87 |
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這是上一屆非常非常重要的 |
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10800.87 |
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10802.87 |
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在性別暴力 |
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10802.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
10804.87 |
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特別是數位性暴力上的一個成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
10804.87 |
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10806.87 |
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沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
10806.87 |
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10808.87 |
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那我想 |
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10808.87 |
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10810.87 |
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等一下下一頁 |
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10810.87 |
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10812.87 |
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我想也恢復一下 |
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10812.87 |
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10814.87 |
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大家的記憶 |
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10814.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
10816.87 |
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當時我跟婦女團體 |
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10816.87 |
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10818.87 |
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跟我們很多的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
10818.87 |
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10820.87 |
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我們爭取到的是 |
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10820.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
10822.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
都能夠有社工的專業服務 |
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10822.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
10824.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
那另外還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
10824.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
10826.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
家中刑責盈利 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
10826.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
10828.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
付費支付觀看的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
10828.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
10830.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
也有罪 |
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10830.87 |
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10832.87 |
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那還有就是 |
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10832.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
10834.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
無論是成人或是兒少 |
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10834.87 |
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10836.87 |
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那要能夠保存 |
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10836.87 |
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10838.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
證據180天 |
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10838.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
10840.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
那網站 |
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10840.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
10842.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
也收到通知的時候必須下架 |
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10842.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
10844.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
如果沒有做到 |
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10844.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
10846.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
每次可以裁罰60萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
10846.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
10848.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
還可以暗次處罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
10848.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
10850.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
到寄出斷網 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
10850.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
10852.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
這是之前的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
10852.87 |
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10854.87 |
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那我有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
10854.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
10856.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
五月衛福部的預告草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
10856.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
10858.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
就是其中有幾個部分 |
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10858.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
10860.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
一個部分就是關於網路 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
10860.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
10862.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
主動巡查的法律依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
10862.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
10864.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
那還有就是 |
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10864.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
10866.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
應該要通知單位機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
10866.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
10868.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
等等這個記載的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
10868.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
10870.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
那還有就是實現的部分 |
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10870.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
10872.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
那這次要徵修影像 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
10872.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
10874.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
下架實現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
10874.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
10876.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
還有主動巡查跟通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
10876.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
10878.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
那我覺得相當好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
10878.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
10880.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
那今天要跟婦女團體長期的訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
10880.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
10882.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
這要非常感謝那個範姻委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
10882.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
10884.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
跟很多婦女團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
10884.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
10886.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
對於這個案子的一個大力的推動跟支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
10886.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
10888.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
我想這個是應該要來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
10888.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
10890.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
那我們還是肯定衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
10890.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
10892.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
就是說很快提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
10892.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
10894.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
那但是我想今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
10894.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
10896.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
還是要就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
10896.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
10898.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
我覺得還是可以再改善的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
10898.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
10900.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
那跟次長請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
10900.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
10902.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
是不是能夠更進一步達到我們的訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
10902.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
10904.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
我想我2021年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
10904.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
10906.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
就提案比照 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
10906.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
10908.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
那既然兒少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
10908.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
10910.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
影像下架可以修正為24小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
10910.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
10912.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
那當時我們通過的是72小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
10912.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
10914.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
那因為當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
10914.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
10916.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
呂次長還不是次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
10916.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
10918.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
那我想跟次長講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
10918.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
10920.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
當時他們講有一些困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
10920.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
10922.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
所以對我們來講是一個妥協 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
10922.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
10924.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
可是您可以知道就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
10924.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
10926.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
性影像在網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
10926.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
10928.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
對一個成人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
10928.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
10930.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
尤其是女性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
10930.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
10932.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
那當然對男性也會傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
10932.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
10934.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
其實傷害是非常大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
10934.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
10936.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
我們可以做到24小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
10936.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
10938.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
那為什麼三年後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
10938.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
10940.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
我們來修的時候這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
10940.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
10942.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
不能夠一起改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
10942.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
10944.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
就是針對成人的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
10944.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
10946.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
這是我的第一個問題喔影像下架的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
10946.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
10948.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
傷害已經造成我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
10948.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
10950.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
要縮小這個傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
10950.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
10952.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
能做到我覺得就應該要請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
10952.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
10954.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
網路平台要能夠一起努力配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
10954.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
10956.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
那另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
10956.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
10958.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
那這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
10958.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
10960.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
我也希望說通知業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
10960.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
10962.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
下架的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
10962.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
10964.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
能不能增加電子文件的方式 |
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10964.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
10966.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
因為這是個網路時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
10966.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
10968.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
如果還要向傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
10968.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
10970.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
書面的話你就已經希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
10970.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
10972.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
他下架了每一分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
10972.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
10974.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
其實對受害人都是折磨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
10974.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
10976.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
是不是能夠就書面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
10976.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
10978.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
增加電子文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
10978.87 |
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10980.87 |
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那這也是很多受害者 |
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10980.87 |
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10982.87 |
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他們希望做到的就是 |
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10982.87 |
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10984.87 |
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希望能夠五條之三的部分 |
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10984.87 |
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10986.87 |
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增加電子文件 |
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10986.8 |
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10988.8 |
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那我想 |
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10988.8 |
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10990.8 |
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要肯定我們司長啊 |
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10990.8 |
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10992.8 |
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他受訪的時候都有談到 |
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10992.8 |
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10994.8 |
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這次會做主動巡查 |
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10994.8 |
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10996.8 |
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而且網址八月就試運轉 |
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10996.8 |
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10998.8 |
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那他也提到 |
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10998.8 |
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11000.8 |
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就是說 |
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11000.8 |
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已經如果出來 |
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11002.8 |
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11004.8 |
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處理的話 |
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11004.8 |
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11006.8 |
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還有檢舉人的話 |
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11006.8 |
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11008.8 |
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那會比照真人申訴的系統 |
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11008.8 |
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11010.8 |
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把疑似有兒少性影像的網站內容 |
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11010.8 |
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就直接送性影像處理中心 |
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11012.8 |
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11014.8 |
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我覺得非常好 |
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11014.8 |
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11016.8 |
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那我也很肯定 |
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11016.8 |
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11018.8 |
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司長主動受訪所講的內容 |
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11018.8 |
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11020.8 |
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但是我的疑問是一樣的 |
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11020.8 |
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11022.8 |
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那既然能針對兒少 |
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11022.8 |
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11024.8 |
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我們即將試運的 |
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11024.8 |
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11026.8 |
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AI主動巡查 |
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11026.8 |
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11028.8 |
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未來也只針對兒少嗎 |
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11030.07 |
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11032.07 |
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這個次長可不可以簡要回應一下 |
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11032.07 |
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11034.07 |
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OK好 我那個剛剛委員提出 |
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11034.07 |
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11036.07 |
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三個槌詢嘛 我先 |
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11036.07 |
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11038.07 |
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一個一個來回答 您剛剛所說的 |
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11038.07 |
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11040.07 |
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這個是確實我們郭彩龍司長 |
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11040.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].end |
11042.07 |
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他也已經說到 |
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11042.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
11044.07 |
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那我們預計明年八月會來提出 |
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11044.07 |
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11046.07 |
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那這裡面有一個比較大的問題 |
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11046.07 |
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11048.07 |
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就像陳如剛剛委員所槌詢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
11048.07 |
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11050.07 |
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我們現在目前是針對兒少 |
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11050.07 |
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11052.07 |
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那因為這裡面是他被保護的對象 |
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11052.07 |
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11054.07 |
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那至於陳忍裡面 這裡面最主要有一個問題就是說 |
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11054.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
11056.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
他有沒有牽涉到就是說 |
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11056.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
11058.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
他自己的意願問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
11057.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
11059.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
有沒有牽涉到他的意願問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
11059.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
11061.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
如果說 |
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11061.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
11063.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
如果說有 如果醫院可以確認的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
11063.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
11065.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
那我們當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
11065.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
11067.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
我們當然就會來進行相關的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
11067.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
11069.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
的一個主動 主動的一個 |
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11069.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
11071.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
的一個查查 了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].start |
11071.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].end |
11073.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].text |
那我想成人性影像當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].start |
11073.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].end |
11075.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].text |
就是說有所謂的 |
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11075.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].end |
11077.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].text |
如果是有共識的 或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].start |
11077.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].end |
11079.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].text |
沒有共識的 沒有共識 當然這就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].start |
11079.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].end |
11081.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].text |
一個所謂的性暴力 數位性暴力 |
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11081.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].end |
11083.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
對對對 沒錯 那就是這部分 |
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11083.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].end |
11085.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].text |
我覺得這個疑義是可以釐清的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].start |
11085.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].end |
11087.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].text |
因為理論上商業的他一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].start |
11087.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].end |
11089.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
需要註明這個是自願的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].start |
11089.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].end |
11091.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].text |
對 沒錯 商業的部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].start |
11091.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].end |
11093.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].text |
那就沒問題了 可是我們現在所講的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].start |
11093.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].end |
11095.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].text |
我們不能假設那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].start |
11095.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].end |
11097.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].text |
性影像就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].start |
11097.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].end |
11099.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].text |
合意的行為 同意的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].start |
11099.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].end |
11101.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].text |
那所以我覺得為何 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].start |
11101.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].end |
11103.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].text |
一滿18歲就不一樣了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].start |
11103.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].end |
11105.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].text |
這件事情蠻需要思考的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].start |
11105.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].end |
11107.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].text |
因為我們可以看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].start |
11107.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].end |
11109.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].text |
2025年整體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].start |
11109.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].end |
11111.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].text |
申訴案件中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].start |
11111.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].end |
11113.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
其實被害人是主要受害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
11113.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].end |
11115.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].text |
的大宗耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].start |
11115.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].end |
11117.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
所以就是申訴案件有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
11117.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].end |
11119.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
2478件被申訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].start |
11119.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].end |
11121.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
網址6687個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].start |
11121.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].end |
11123.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
被害人1521個裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].start |
11123.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
11125.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
成人是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
11125.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].end |
11127.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
佔了82.8% |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].start |
11127.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
11129.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
也就是說數位性暴力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
11129.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
11131.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
受害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].start |
11131.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].end |
11133.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
而少17% 當然一定要保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
11133.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].end |
11135.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
可是成人82.8% |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].start |
11135.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].end |
11137.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
我是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
11137.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
11139.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
不要因為他是成年人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
11139.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
11141.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
就沒有辦法得到這樣的保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
11141.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
11143.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
所以也跟次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
11143.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].end |
11145.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
分享一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
11145.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
11147.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
2016年就是今年美國已經立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].start |
11147.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].end |
11149.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
把非合意散佈性影像 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
11149.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
11151.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
跟所謂的deepfade |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
11151.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].end |
11153.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
列為聯邦犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
11153.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
11155.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
下架實現 |
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11155.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
11157.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
是48小時內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
11157.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].end |
11159.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
那所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
11159.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].end |
11161.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
我們現在這個72小時如果跟美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].start |
11161.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
11163.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
比的話 其實已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].start |
11163.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
11165.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
不一樣了 而且他這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].start |
11165.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].end |
11167.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
當成是聯邦犯罪的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].start |
11167.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
11169.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
那他的處理方式積極地巡邏 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
11169.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
11171.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
那台灣是不是也能夠跟上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
11171.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
11173.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
那這是我今天的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
11173.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
11175.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
想要問的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
11176.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
11178.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].text |
非常感謝我 那我能不能簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
11178.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
11180.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
也回答一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
11180.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
11182.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
剛剛就有關電子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].start |
11182.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].end |
11184.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
有關電子的部分 我們現在目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].start |
11184.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
11186.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].text |
我們會來朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].start |
11186.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
11188.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].text |
這個也應該是數位時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
11188.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
11190.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
我覺得這個應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
11190.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].end |
11192.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].text |
要來朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].start |
11192.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
11194.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].text |
那所以魏福部這三點 就是我剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].start |
11194.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
11196.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
其實就這三點 是不是能夠研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].start |
11196.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].end |
11198.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].text |
我們在這一波就一起處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].start |
11198.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].end |
11200.78 |
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第一個 成人性私密影像 |
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比照兒少 他已經來 |
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申訴了 要求了 |
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要求短下架實現 |
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那讓數位平台也能夠 |
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保護到 就是我們 |
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上一屆原本的要求 |
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是24小時 那後來 |
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平台一直希望不要 |
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這麼的 你知道 對他們來講 |
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這是加重工作負擔 |
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可是他已知受傷害 你讓他 |
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一天或是三天受傷害 |
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我們當然是希望越少越好 |
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所以第一個 能不能比照兒少 |
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那第二個 我覺得比較容易做到的 |
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就是通知業者 |
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短下架 增加電子文件的方式 |
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縮減被害人等待時間 |
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那第三點 |
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我覺得其實你們也是 |
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可以做到的 只要您處理的 |
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那個所謂的自願跟 |
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就是未經同意的這部分 |
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能不能一起把主動 |
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宣查範圍納入成人性私密影像 |
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那這三點 |
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那個次長可以 |
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就是評估 那能不能 |
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在這一波就一起處理嗎 |
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包委 那個我們現在目前第三點 |
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我們這個來聯誼 |
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那第一點我跟委員報告 |
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現在目前就是說 有關成人 |
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有關性侵害的部分 |
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他的私密影像現在就是24小時 |
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這個沒問題 可是現在目前就是說 |
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對 但你現在目前 |
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委員目前所說最重要是那個影像 |
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那個私密影像的部分 |
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這個我們是不是 我們來研議好不好 |
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好 你現在這第五條 |
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之三 就是下面寫的是 |
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72小時耶 |
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那這次既然已經做到 |
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這次就可以一起修 是這個意思嗎 |
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對 這個我們還是 |
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那個是性侵害犯罪 |
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那是24小時 可是刑法那個是 |
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72小時 對 |
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那這兒少的話是 |
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全部都是72小時 好不好 |
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那我們釐清一下 所以這三點 |
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那這個次長 |
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可以多少時間內可以給本席 |
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一個初步的報告呢 |
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能不能再一個月 好不好 |
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一個月後 一個月後 好 |
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那就拜託次長了 一起加油 |
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感謝范委員 關心 謝謝 |
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那接下來請楊瓊茵委員發言 |
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謝謝主席楊瓊發言 我們邀請衛福部 |
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呃 旅次長 |
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楊委員午安 |
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那夠不夠重 |
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我們反而是要問 |
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被害人 |
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保得住嗎 |
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那影像能不能下架 |
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加害人找不找得到 |
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還有下一個孩子 |
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能不能被提前保護 |
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我想這是今天我們大家 |
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提出討論的 |
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一個重點喔 |
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那麼同時呢 我們現在看到 |
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這個暴力 |
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目前的這個犯罪方式 |
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它已經不是只有 |
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傳統的一對一 |
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的一個犯罪喔 |
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我們已經進入到網路化 |
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匿名化 甚至是 |
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跨境化 |
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11403.94 |
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甚至AI深層化的一個時代 |
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11405.94 |
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就那個Debate的那個問題 |
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11407.94 |
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所以因此我們對於被害人的保護 |
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我們如果 |
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還是停留在案件 |
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發生之後 |
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這是沒有辦法 |
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去保護的 沒錯 |
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所以目前我們的狀態 是否還停滯在 |
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犯罪 |
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案件發生之後 |
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我們正因為就是說 |
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現在真的必須要與時俱進 |
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網路時代 所以我們現在目前就是有一個 |
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所謂的網路巡查 |
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網路的這個影像巡查 |
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那個就是說主動出擊 |
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這個待會本席會跟你討論喔 |
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因為在性侵害案件當中 |
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我們認為最可怕的 |
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它就是可能 |
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存在多次的傷害 |
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這個是最可 |
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11449.94 |
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這個對這個被害人來講 |
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是非常非常的可怕 |
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長期的心理上的那種 |
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這個陰影 |
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所以因此呢 |
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11457.94 |
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11459.94 |
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也就是說你案件發生的時候 |
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11459.94 |
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11461.94 |
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他第一次傷害 |
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11461.94 |
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11463.94 |
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但是如果案件進入到 |
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11463.94 |
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11465.94 |
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司法程序之後 |
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11465.94 |
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11467.94 |
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那這個被害人 |
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11467.94 |
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11469.94 |
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還是不斷的要去重複的 |
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11469.94 |
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11471.94 |
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去敘述 |
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11471.94 |
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11473.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
而且重複的接受詢問 |
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11473.94 |
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11475.94 |
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甚至面對到 |
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11475.94 |
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11477.94 |
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各自外洩 |
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11477.94 |
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11479.94 |
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影像再散佈以及 |
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11479.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].end |
11481.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].text |
網路霸凌的這個現象 |
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11481.94 |
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11483.94 |
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所以因此我要請教 |
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11483.94 |
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11485.94 |
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現在我們因為被害人 |
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11485.94 |
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11487.94 |
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從通報開始 |
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11487.94 |
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11489.94 |
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到接受社工 |
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11489.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].end |
11491.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].text |
以及心理 |
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11493.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].end |
11495.31 |
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以及醫療 |
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11495.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].end |
11497.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].text |
司法的服務 |
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11497.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].end |
11499.31 |
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有沒有單一窗口 |
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11499.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].end |
11501.31 |
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包委員我們現在目前就是各地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].start |
11501.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].end |
11503.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].text |
社會局裡面都有一個就業院的家庭暴力防治中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].start |
11503.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].end |
11505.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].text |
委員我過去也在台中擔任社會局局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].start |
11505.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].end |
11507.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].text |
這個我們各個地方政府 |
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11507.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].end |
11509.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].text |
都會有這一個單一窗口 |
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11509.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].end |
11511.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].text |
就陳如委員剛剛說一旦從通報開始 |
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11511.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].end |
11513.31 |
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一連串的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].start |
11513.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].end |
11515.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].text |
他要陪同去這一個 |
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11515.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].end |
11517.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].text |
去醫院去做這個 |
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11517.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].end |
11519.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].text |
整個那個證據收集 |
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11519.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].end |
11521.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].text |
還有整個相關的心理醫療 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].start |
11521.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].end |
11523.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].text |
這個我們全部都是 |
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11523.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].end |
11525.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].text |
當然我們同樣在地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].start |
11525.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].end |
11527.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].text |
政府做過事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].start |
11527.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].end |
11529.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].text |
有了解這些同仁很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].start |
11529.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].end |
11531.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].text |
案件很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].start |
11531.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].end |
11533.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].text |
這是我們很難過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].start |
11533.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].end |
11535.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].text |
人數絕對不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].start |
11535.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].end |
11537.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].text |
所以在這樣的情況之下我們還要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].start |
11537.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].end |
11539.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].text |
去討論他平均 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].start |
11539.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].end |
11541.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].text |
這個被害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].start |
11541.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].end |
11543.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].text |
他要接觸到幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].start |
11543.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].end |
11545.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].text |
不同單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].start |
11545.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].end |
11547.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].text |
他還要重複的來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].start |
11547.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].end |
11549.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].text |
他這個案情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].start |
11549.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].end |
11551.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].text |
所以我個人認為我們是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].start |
11551.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].end |
11553.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].text |
應該在法律上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].start |
11553.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].end |
11555.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].text |
來達成有專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].start |
11555.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].end |
11557.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].text |
人士的一個陪同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].start |
11557.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].end |
11559.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].text |
他一次講足了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].start |
11559.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].end |
11561.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].text |
這一些的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].start |
11561.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].end |
11563.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].text |
相關的單位就可以從 |
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11563.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].end |
11565.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].text |
這一個部分去取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].start |
11565.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].end |
11567.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].text |
他的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].start |
11567.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].end |
11569.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].text |
不要讓被害人一講再講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].start |
11569.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].end |
11571.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].text |
一傷害再傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].start |
11571.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].end |
11573.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].text |
你的看法呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].start |
11573.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].end |
11575.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].text |
包委我完全同意啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].start |
11575.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].end |
11577.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].text |
這個相應說就是說遇到這種不幸 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].start |
11577.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].end |
11579.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].text |
對一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].start |
11579.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].end |
11581.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].text |
被害者莫大的傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].start |
11581.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].end |
11583.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].text |
我們的原則一定就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].start |
11583.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].end |
11585.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].text |
一次陳述就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].start |
11585.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].end |
11587.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].text |
所以本席要跟你討論的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].start |
11587.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].end |
11589.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].text |
專業人士的一個陪同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].start |
11589.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].end |
11591.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].text |
尤其在兒童身心障礙的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].start |
11593.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].end |
11595.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].text |
必須要有專業人士的一個陪同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].start |
11595.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].end |
11597.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].text |
是否如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].start |
11599.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].end |
11601.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].text |
是否如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].start |
11601.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].end |
11603.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].text |
我們現在目前在法律裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].start |
11603.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].end |
11605.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].text |
我們也是這樣的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].start |
11605.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].end |
11607.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].text |
法律上面寫著 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].start |
11607.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].end |
11609.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].text |
被害人保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].start |
11609.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].end |
11611.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].text |
這是我們的目的我們的精神跟我們的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].start |
11611.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].end |
11613.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].text |
但是你的專業人士 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].start |
11613.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].end |
11615.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].text |
你說必須要陪同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].start |
11615.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].end |
11617.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].text |
夠嗎你有盤點嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].start |
11616.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].end |
11618.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].text |
夠嗎全國夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].start |
11618.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].end |
11620.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].text |
盤點嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].start |
11620.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].end |
11622.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].text |
我們現在目前總共全國有188位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].start |
11622.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].end |
11624.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].text |
我們現在目前總共全國有188位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].start |
11624.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].end |
11626.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].text |
我們現在目前總共全國有188位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].start |
11626.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].end |
11628.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].text |
我們現在目前總共全國有188位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].start |
11628.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].end |
11630.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].text |
我們現在目前總共全國有188位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].start |
11630.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].end |
11632.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].text |
我們現在目前總共全國有188位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].start |
11632.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].end |
11634.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].text |
我們現在目前總共全國有188位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].start |
11634.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].end |
11636.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].text |
我們現在目前總共全國有188位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].start |
11636.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].end |
11638.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].text |
我們現在目前總共全國有188位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].start |
11638.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].end |
11640.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].text |
我們現在目前總共全國有188位 |
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11640.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].end |
11642.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].text |
我們現在目前總共全國有188位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].start |
11642.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].end |
11644.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].text |
我們現在目前總共全國有188位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].start |
11644.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].end |
11646.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].text |
我們現在目前總共全國有188位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].start |
11646.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].end |
11648.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].text |
我們現在目前總共全國有188位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].start |
11648.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].end |
11650.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].text |
我們現在目前總共全國有188位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].start |
11624.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].end |
11626.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].text |
當然另外除了這個我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].start |
11626.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].end |
11628.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].text |
那個社政這邊之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].start |
11628.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].end |
11630.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].text |
另外我們的整個司法系統那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].start |
11630.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].end |
11632.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].text |
也有其他他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].start |
11632.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].end |
11634.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].text |
所以你必須去盤點專業人士的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].start |
11634.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].end |
11636.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].text |
這也是法律賦予 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].start |
11636.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].end |
11638.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].text |
必須要做的必要條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].start |
11638.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].end |
11640.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].text |
接下來我跟你們討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].start |
11640.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].end |
11642.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].text |
剛剛我們所說的現在不是 |
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11642.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].end |
11644.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].text |
只有刪一張照片的問題這麼簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].start |
11644.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].end |
11646.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].text |
2024年你的修法 |
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11646.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].end |
11648.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].text |
已經建立了性影像處理中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].start |
11648.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].end |
11650.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].text |
已經建立了性影像處理中心 |
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11650.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].end |
11652.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].text |
的數位這個建設資料庫 |
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11652.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].end |
11654.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].text |
這個建設資料庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].start |
11654.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].end |
11656.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].text |
你也讓主管機關單位用這個科技的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].start |
11656.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].end |
11658.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].text |
主動去巡查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].start |
11658.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].end |
11660.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].text |
我們看到2025年性影像中心接獲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].start |
11660.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].end |
11662.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].text |
我們看到2025年性影像中心接獲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].start |
11662.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].end |
11664.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].text |
兒少性影像相關的檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].start |
11664.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].end |
11666.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].text |
有2899王子數 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].start |
11666.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].end |
11668.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].text |
成員的部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].start |
11668.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].end |
11670.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].text |
3692王子數 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].start |
11670.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].end |
11672.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].text |
下架是九成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].start |
11672.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
11674.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
所以本席要請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].start |
11674.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
11676.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
那我們現在到底做到什麼樣程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].start |
11676.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
11678.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].start |
11677.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
11679.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
被害人通報到平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].start |
11679.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
11681.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
收到通知必須要多久時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].start |
11681.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
11683.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
第二個通知到限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].start |
11683.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
11685.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
瀏覽或下架要多久時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].start |
11685.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
11687.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
第三個同樣一份 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].start |
11687.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
11689.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
影像如果搬到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].start |
11689.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].end |
11691.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
新的一個上傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].start |
11691.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
11693.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
不同的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].start |
11693.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
11695.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
那能不能做到一觸發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].start |
11695.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].end |
11697.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
全網追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].start |
11697.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].end |
11699.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].text |
請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].start |
11699.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].end |
11701.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].text |
包圍我們現在目前的一個規定就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].start |
11701.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].end |
11703.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].text |
一旦發生這個情勢24小時之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].start |
11703.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].end |
11705.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].text |
他就必須要讓他下架完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].start |
11706.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].end |
11708.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
沒有針對本席的提問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].start |
11708.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].end |
11710.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].text |
你是通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].start |
11710.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].end |
11712.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].text |
然後你下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].start |
11712.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].end |
11714.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].text |
他如果將這個影片再到其他的平台呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].start |
11715.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].end |
11717.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].text |
對不對你現在因為我們在修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].start |
11717.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
11719.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
能不能在科技這麼方便 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].start |
11719.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
11721.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
能不能你只要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].start |
11721.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].end |
11723.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].text |
舉報一網就能夠通力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].start |
11723.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
11725.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].start |
11725.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].end |
11727.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
同樣性質的來一次處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].start |
11727.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
11729.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].start |
11729.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].end |
11731.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
你的當然是如此做嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].start |
11731.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
11733.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
那務必要做到喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].start |
11733.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
11735.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
那你們現在八月份 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
11735.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].end |
11737.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
必須要示範了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
11737.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].end |
11739.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
我們是預計明年八月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
11739.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
11741.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
因為目前沒簽到結合 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
11741.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
11743.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
就是說有關鍵詞關鍵字這一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
11743.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
11745.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].text |
我們現在目前趕快做一些相關的調教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
11745.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].end |
11747.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].text |
調整校正的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
11747.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].end |
11749.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
早晨不要再慢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
11749.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
11751.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
趕快加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
11751.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
11753.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
謝謝楊重英委員的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
11753.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
11755.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
接下來請邱惠祿委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
11763.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
11765.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
主席還有各位委員大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
11765.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
11767.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
那有請呂次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].start |
11767.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
11769.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
有請呂次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].start |
11771.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
11773.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
邱委員午安 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
11801.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].end |
11803.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
我們現在目前其實已經有部分公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
11803.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
11805.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
我們目前現有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
11805.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
11807.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
就是有這個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
11807.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
11809.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
這個制度是怎麼樣就是說如果他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].start |
11809.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
11811.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
高再犯風險的加害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
11811.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
11813.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
什麼叫高這個裡面有一個評估的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].start |
11813.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
11815.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
那如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
11815.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
11817.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
他真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
11817.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
11819.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
他如果有再犯風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
11819.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
11821.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
你講的是52條什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
11821.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
11823.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
逃亡然後那種狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
11823.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
11825.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
所以52條你講的是局部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
11825.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
11827.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
但我現在講的是全面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
11827.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
11829.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
全面的話包委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
11829.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
11831.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
我之前有回答幾個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
11831.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
11833.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
我知道大家也希望就是說一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].start |
11835.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
11837.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
一次就達到效果可是這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
11837.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
11839.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
恐怕沒那麼單純因為我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
11839.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
11841.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
兩個重點第一個我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
11841.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
11843.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
數據顯示裡面的加害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
11843.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
11845.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
很多事實上就是熟人我理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
11845.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
11847.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
其實我有做過功課 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
11847.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
11849.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
就是怕你公布加害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
11849.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
11851.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
然後會讓這些受害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
11851.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
11853.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
組織辨識然後呈現出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].start |
11853.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
11855.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
他們的身份然後造成他們二度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
11855.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
11857.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
傷害那所以我覺得這個考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
11857.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
11859.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
當然是值得要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
11859.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
11861.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
考量的但是可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
11861.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
11863.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
我覺得如果唯一只有考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
11863.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
11865.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
這個點的話我覺得可以採區別 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
11865.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
11867.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
如果公布加害人會組織辨識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
11867.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
11869.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
到受害者一種處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
11869.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
11871.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
如果不會組織辨識受害人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
11871.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
11873.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
可能可以考慮另外一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
11873.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
11875.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
處理這樣子如果說如果能夠達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
11875.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
11877.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
這個的話我覺得確實應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].start |
11877.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
11879.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
有一個分開處理的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
11879.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
11881.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
因為我覺得這裡有三種意義一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
11881.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
11883.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
公共利益然後再來就是民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
11883.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
11885.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
知情權再來就是市井潛在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
11885.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
11887.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
受害者所以我覺得如果你們有這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
11887.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
11889.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
考量你們應該去做區別 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
11889.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
11891.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
對待那也許衛福部這邊就帶回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
11891.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
11893.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
再做進一步的思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
11893.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
11895.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
非常感謝委員的一個這個方向的提示我覺得這個確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
11895.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
11897.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
我們可以用一個分開處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
11897.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
11899.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
最主要就是那個被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
11899.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
11901.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
最佳利益我覺得這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
11901.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
11903.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
應該是top priority好謝謝次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
11903.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
11905.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
那我現在想跟您請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
11905.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
11907.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
因為邊行這件事我想是這 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
11907.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
11909.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
陣子滿火熱的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
11909.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
11911.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
那我想我們在11月28號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
11911.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
11913.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
會辦邊行的公投這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
11913.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
11915.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
其實民意的支持度非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].start |
11915.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
11917.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
高高達95% |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
11917.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
11919.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
那民主進步黨的支持者也高達 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
11919.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
11921.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
66%其實都很支持邊行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
11921.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
11923.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
那我想請教一件事就是衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
11923.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
11925.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
對邊行的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
11925.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
11927.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
包圍這裡面會牽涉到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
11929.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
11931.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
到底邊行跟整個這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
11931.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
11933.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
犯罪力之間的相關性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
11933.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
11935.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
我想這個犯罪學裡面已經有很多研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
11935.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
11937.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
其實未必盡然 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].start |
11937.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
11939.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].text |
這是第一點我想委員也是這方面的專家嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
11939.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].end |
11941.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].text |
另外第二點就是說你現在一旦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].start |
11941.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].end |
11943.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].text |
採取這個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].start |
11942.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].end |
11944.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].text |
我必須要提醒台灣我們現在目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].start |
11944.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].end |
11946.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].text |
我們人權公約我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].start |
11946.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].end |
11948.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].text |
我們也已經內國法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].start |
11948.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].end |
11950.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].text |
那這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].start |
11950.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].end |
11952.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].text |
會不會產生整個這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].start |
11952.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].end |
11954.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].text |
人權保障的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].start |
11954.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].end |
11956.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].text |
當然我們最主要還是我們要保護的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].start |
11956.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].end |
11958.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].text |
民眾可是這裡面有沒有整個漢閣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].start |
11958.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].end |
11960.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
問題這第二點 我了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].start |
11960.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].end |
11962.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].text |
我想正面說法反面說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].start |
11962.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].end |
11964.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].text |
我們這邊都掌握非常清楚我只是想 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
11964.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].end |
11966.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].text |
今天站在質詢台上我只是想了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
11966.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].end |
11968.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].text |
衛福部的態度是支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].start |
11968.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].end |
11970.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].text |
還是反對那當然這涉及價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].start |
11970.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].end |
11972.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].text |
選項我們也其實沒有強迫說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
11972.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].end |
11974.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].text |
衛福部一定要接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
11974.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].end |
11976.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].text |
是或否那只是想了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
11976.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].end |
11978.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
我們中央主管機關衛福部對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].start |
11978.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].end |
11980.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
邊行這件事的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
11980.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].end |
11982.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
因為這個就是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
11982.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
11984.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].text |
我們的刑法政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
11984.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].end |
11986.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
還有整個這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
11986.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
11988.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].text |
現在憲法還有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
11988.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].end |
11990.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
還有刑法這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
11990.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
11992.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
是絕對的反對還是絕對的贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
11992.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
11994.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
還是還在思考中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
11994.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
11996.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].text |
我們正在刑事法律的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
11996.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].end |
11998.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].text |
的一個政策問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
11998.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].end |
12000.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
那這個不是衛福部能夠單方面回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
12000.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].end |
12002.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
12002.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].end |
12004.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
所以是你好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
12004.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].end |
12006.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
答案不是絕對的贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
12006.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].end |
12008.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].text |
也不是絕對反對也還不是在思考中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].start |
12008.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].end |
12010.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].text |
好像變成有一點難以回答嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].start |
12010.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].end |
12012.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].text |
因為我現在就是說因為這是屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
12012.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].end |
12014.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
所謂國家的我們的這一個人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
12014.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].end |
12016.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].text |
跟這一個刑法政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
12016.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].end |
12018.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
所以衛福部到目前還沒有形成態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
12018.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
12020.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].text |
沒問題我今天站在質詢台上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
12020.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].end |
12022.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
只是想知道中央主管機關衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
12022.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].end |
12024.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
目前的態度好那我請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
12024.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].end |
12026.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
另外一個問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
12026.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].end |
12028.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].text |
我想這一兩天很火熱的新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
12028.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].end |
12030.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].text |
就是說我們有個台大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].start |
12030.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
12032.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
急診在等待的病患然後結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].start |
12032.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
12034.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
就在等待12天的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
12034.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
12036.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
就不幸離世了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
12036.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
12038.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
那我想了解一件事通常 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
12038.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
12040.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
急診優色有個原因就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
12040.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
12042.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
因為上面的病床 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
12042.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].end |
12044.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].text |
關床那關床的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
12044.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
12046.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
就是來自於說護理人員不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
12046.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
12048.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].text |
那我想問這一個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
12048.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].end |
12050.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].text |
有沒有涉及護理人力荒的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
12050.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].end |
12052.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].text |
衛福部這邊有沒有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
12052.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
12054.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].text |
包委員據我們的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
12054.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
12056.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
就我們了解應該跟護理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
12057.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
12059.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
12059.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
12061.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
所以你們目前所定的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
12061.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
12063.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
跟護理人力荒沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
12063.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
12065.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
以這個個案來說沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
12065.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
12067.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
那當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
12067.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
12069.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
我想護理人力荒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
12069.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
12071.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
現在在全國普遍的存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
12071.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
12073.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
那這個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
12073.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
12075.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
我覺得可以讓我們去思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
12075.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
12077.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
到底病人上不去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
12077.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
12079.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
跟護理人員人力荒有沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
12079.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
12081.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
那如果沒有也沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
12081.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
12083.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
可以讓我們進一步再去思考說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
12083.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
12085.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
急診優色的問題如果是護理人力荒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
12085.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
12087.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
所導致的關床這個要怎麼解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
12087.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
12089.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
那我最近一直聽到一些醫院的院長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
12089.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
12091.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].text |
得護理得天下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
12091.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
12093.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].text |
那感覺是非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
12093.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].end |
12095.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].text |
保佑我們護理人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
12095.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
12097.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].text |
那非常的疼愛我們護理人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
12097.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
12099.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].text |
但是呢這幾天也發生一個憾事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
12099.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].end |
12101.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
就是我前兩天才 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
12101.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
12103.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
陪同衛福部金門醫院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
12103.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
12105.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].text |
一個受霸凌的護理師開記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
12105.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].end |
12107.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].text |
那這個其實就發生在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].start |
12107.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].end |
12109.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
衛福部的金門醫院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
12109.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
12111.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
那這看起來是一個個案問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
12111.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].end |
12113.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].text |
可是它背後其實有一個制度性的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
12113.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
12115.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
例如說請假的友善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
12115.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
12117.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
制度的友善性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
12117.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
12119.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
再來就是霸凌的處理跟霸凌申訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
12119.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
12121.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].text |
機制的妥適性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
12121.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
12123.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].text |
然後再來就是有沒有一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
12123.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
12127.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].text |
腹瀆被深屆的冤案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
12127.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].end |
12129.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].text |
冤案的問題這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
12129.97 |
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因為其實他不是公務人員 |
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12131.97 |
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12133.97 |
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那國家的法規制度並沒有要求他報備 |
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12133.97 |
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12135.97 |
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可是這家醫院卻要求他事先來報備 |
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12135.97 |
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12137.97 |
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那會不會這家醫院 |
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12137.97 |
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12139.97 |
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就是衛福部的金門醫院 |
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12139.97 |
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12141.97 |
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會不會增加法律所無知限制 |
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12141.97 |
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12143.97 |
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如果用內規來限制 |
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12143.97 |
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12145.97 |
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甚至去剝奪他憲法 |
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12145.97 |
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12147.97 |
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這個遷徙自由 |
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12147.97 |
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12149.97 |
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所以我覺得這個案件 |
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12149.97 |
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12151.97 |
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看似個案可是後面有 |
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12151.97 |
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12153.97 |
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系統性的問題 |
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12155.97 |
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那是不是請衛福部來關照 |
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12155.97 |
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12157.97 |
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一來就是讓這個個案得到妥適的 |
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12157.97 |
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12159.97 |
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一個照護跟後續的處理 |
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12159.97 |
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12161.97 |
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再來就是去檢視這些制度的問題 |
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12161.97 |
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可以嗎 |
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12163.97 |
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12165.97 |
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我知道那個委員向來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
12165.97 |
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12167.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].text |
對這個問題非常非常關心 |
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12167.97 |
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12169.97 |
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我覺得金門醫院這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
12169.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].end |
12171.97 |
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應該要來做一個通盤的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
12171.97 |
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12173.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
那這件事不是可以讓我們知道 |
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12173.97 |
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12175.97 |
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多久之後會有一個後續的結果 |
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12177.72 |
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12179.72 |
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我們現在目前在處理當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].start |
12179.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
12181.72 |
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那我們是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
12181.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
12183.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
衣服會那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].start |
12183.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].end |
12185.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].text |
我後續的衣服會那邊再跟委員做一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].start |
12185.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].end |
12187.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].text |
我們希望不是然後就沒有然後了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].start |
12187.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].end |
12189.72 |
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真的是有一個逐步的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
12189.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
12191.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
互動跟結果能夠讓我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
12191.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
12193.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
還有一個改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
12193.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
12195.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
那最後一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
12195.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
12197.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
我想食安的這個風暴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
12197.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].end |
12199.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].text |
我們身歷其重人心惶惶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
12199.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
12201.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].text |
那當然衛福部這邊也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].start |
12201.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
12203.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
針對於某些食品認為應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
12203.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
12205.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
逐批檢查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
12205.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
12207.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].text |
那這種規則就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
12207.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
12209.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
那我們在7月31號也去函衛福部說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
12209.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
12211.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].text |
有哪一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
12211.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
12213.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].text |
輸入的食品其實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
12213.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
12215.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].text |
採逐批 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
12215.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
12217.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].text |
我們的那個函文有要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
12217.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
12219.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
要有一些資訊什麼資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
12219.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
12221.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
例如說哪一些類別的食物 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
12221.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
12223.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
然後其實衛福部目前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].start |
12223.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].end |
12225.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].text |
規則是寫逐批或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
12225.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
12227.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].text |
每半年那對於某些物 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
12227.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
12229.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
食品你們是採逐批那理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
12229.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
12231.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].text |
是什麼那還有就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].start |
12231.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].end |
12233.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
到底是哪些國外製造業進來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
12233.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
12235.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
哪些國內輸入業的你們有逐批 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].start |
12235.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
12237.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].text |
我們想知道這個資訊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].start |
12237.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].end |
12239.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].text |
公開然後進一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
12239.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].end |
12241.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].text |
來做一些監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
12241.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
12243.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
結果你給我們回函只有左邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
12243.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].end |
12245.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].text |
綠色的字就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].start |
12245.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].end |
12247.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
一個犯犯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
12247.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
12249.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
一個統計數字例如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
12249.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
12251.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
110年1680然後114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
12251.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].end |
12253.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].text |
1090那我們想要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].start |
12253.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].end |
12255.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].text |
下面這個比較精細一點的表格 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].start |
12255.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].end |
12257.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].text |
那你們只給了一個1090 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].start |
12257.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].end |
12259.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].text |
所以這邊我們有一點感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].start |
12259.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].end |
12261.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].text |
所知好像要一塊結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].start |
12261.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].end |
12263.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].text |
結果給了五毛啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].start |
12263.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].end |
12265.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].text |
那所以能不能把其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].start |
12265.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].end |
12267.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].text |
95毛補給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].start |
12267.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].end |
12269.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].text |
就是我們不要旁邊那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].start |
12269.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].end |
12271.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].text |
綠色犯犯的很抽象的一批 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].start |
12271.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].end |
12273.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].text |
114年1090的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].start |
12273.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].end |
12275.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].text |
我們有一些細節性的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].start |
12275.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].end |
12277.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].text |
就像我這Excel表格所做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].start |
12277.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].end |
12279.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].text |
可能因為你們的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
12279.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].end |
12281.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].text |
要求逐批或逐年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].start |
12281.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].end |
12283.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].text |
對於某些食品你們採逐批 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].start |
12283.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].end |
12285.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
所以有了1090這樣的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].start |
12285.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
12287.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].text |
那理由是什麼為什麼針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].start |
12287.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].end |
12289.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].text |
這樣的食品是採用逐批因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
12289.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].end |
12292.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
行政法規嘛輸入業者有21項的產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
12292.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
12294.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
逐批或者是沒半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
12294.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].end |
12297.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].text |
那哪些是要逐批可不可以給我們數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
12297.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].end |
12299.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].text |
每一個品項的具體的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].start |
12299.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].end |
12301.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].text |
因為這樣子比較精確 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].start |
12301.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].end |
12303.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].text |
然後我們可以做進一步的監督跟思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
12303.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].end |
12305.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].text |
那就是原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
12305.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].end |
12307.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].text |
為什麼這些是採用逐批 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].start |
12307.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].end |
12309.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].text |
然後還有一些國內外的製造業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
12309.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].end |
12311.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].text |
或輸入業者可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
12311.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].end |
12313.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].text |
這個次長OK感謝我是不是請那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].start |
12313.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].end |
12315.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].text |
食藥署來跟我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
12315.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].end |
12317.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
是委員報告一下是跟委員報告就是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
12317.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].end |
12319.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
提供那個數字啊因為其實依據我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
12319.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].end |
12321.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
輸入產業辦法裡頭其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
12321.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
12323.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
我們是依據風險去做分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].start |
12323.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].end |
12325.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].text |
那基本上其實他是以這個合格 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].start |
12325.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].end |
12327.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].text |
檢驗的不合格的這個情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].start |
12327.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].end |
12329.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].text |
那我們會去做一個我們有三個層級 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].start |
12329.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].end |
12331.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].text |
來去做一個調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].start |
12331.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].end |
12333.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].text |
所以並不是說一定是什麼類別或是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].start |
12333.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].end |
12335.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].text |
我們才會去採逐批 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].start |
12335.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].end |
12337.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].text |
那當然逐批有一個是我們在年度我們會有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].start |
12337.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].end |
12339.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].text |
監視的一個相關的這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].start |
12339.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].end |
12341.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].text |
如果我們主管機關有特定的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].start |
12341.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].end |
12343.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].text |
那其實就會採逐批但是絕大多數的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].start |
12343.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].end |
12345.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].text |
管控的情勢是依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].start |
12345.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].end |
12347.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].text |
這個產品他之前輸入的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].start |
12347.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].end |
12349.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].text |
譬如說同一個抱怨人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].start |
12349.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].end |
12351.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].text |
或那是不是同一個好戀那他是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].start |
12351.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].end |
12353.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].text |
之前都有一些不合格的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].start |
12353.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].end |
12355.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].text |
那我們是會從一般抽批 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].start |
12355.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].end |
12357.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].text |
改成加強抽批那在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].start |
12357.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].end |
12359.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].text |
在不合格的話我們才會改成什麼批 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].start |
12359.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].end |
12361.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].text |
那這些好像在你給我們韓文並沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].start |
12361.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].end |
12363.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].text |
這些具體的數字所以可以給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].start |
12363.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].end |
12365.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].text |
這些具體的數字就是說不一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].start |
12365.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].end |
12367.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].text |
按照21個類別因為你們有你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].start |
12367.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].end |
12369.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].text |
邏輯跟方式那到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].start |
12369.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].end |
12371.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].text |
哪一些品項是採逐批 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].start |
12371.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].end |
12373.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].text |
然後到底是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].start |
12373.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].end |
12375.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].text |
哪些比較重點你說高風險的食品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].start |
12375.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].end |
12377.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].text |
或什麼的可以把這些資訊揭露給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].start |
12377.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].end |
12379.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].text |
因為你們就泛泛給了我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].start |
12379.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].end |
12381.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].text |
這五個數字我們看不出來是哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].start |
12381.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].end |
12383.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].text |
品項或者是哪些業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].start |
12383.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].end |
12385.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].text |
有這些數字嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].start |
12385.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].end |
12387.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].text |
那跟委員報告的話因為我們的主要不是會分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].start |
12387.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].end |
12389.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].text |
這個相關的那個類別一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].start |
12389.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].end |
12391.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].text |
怎麼做或是哪個品項一定要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].start |
12391.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].end |
12393.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].text |
那我們是不是可以把我們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].start |
12393.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].end |
12395.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].text |
相關就是三個階層的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].start |
12395.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].end |
12397.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].text |
跟委員做比較強調的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].start |
12397.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].end |
12399.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].text |
數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].start |
12399.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].end |
12401.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].text |
好謝謝謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].start |
12401.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].end |
12403.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].start |
12404.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].end |
12406.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].text |
謝謝秋未的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].start |
12406.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].end |
12408.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].text |
許宇甄委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].start |
12408.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].end |
12410.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].text |
書青權委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].start |
12410.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].end |
12412.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].text |
書青權委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].start |
12412.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].end |
12414.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].text |
審發會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].start |
12414.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].end |
12416.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].text |
審發會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].start |
12416.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].end |
12418.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].text |
以上這三位委員都改書面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].start |
12418.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].end |
12420.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].text |
那接下來請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].start |
12420.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].end |
12422.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].text |
王振旭委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].start |
12432.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].end |
12434.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].start |
12434.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].end |
12436.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].text |
今天稍微 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].start |
12436.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].end |
12438.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].text |
是排了針對性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].start |
12438.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].end |
12440.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].text |
防治法跟兒少性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].start |
12440.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].end |
12442.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].text |
剝削條例的詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].start |
12442.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].end |
12444.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].text |
剛剛還聽了好多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].start |
12444.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].end |
12446.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].text |
委員針對這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].start |
12446.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].end |
12448.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].text |
真的做得非常深入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].start |
12448.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].end |
12450.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].text |
跟衛福部這邊有很 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].start |
12450.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].end |
12452.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].text |
很完整的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].start |
12452.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].end |
12454.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].text |
我相信針對不管是性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].start |
12454.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].end |
12456.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].text |
防治或者是兒少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].start |
12456.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].end |
12458.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].text |
性剝削的防治都是大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].start |
12458.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].end |
12460.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].text |
非常關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].start |
12460.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].end |
12462.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].text |
大家一起努力希望不要再有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].start |
12462.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].end |
12464.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].text |
類似的案子來發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].start |
12464.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].end |
12466.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].text |
那如果有發生的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].start |
12466.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].end |
12468.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].text |
也應該有讓他有最好的一個防 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].start |
12468.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].end |
12470.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].text |
跟處理的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].start |
12470.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].end |
12472.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].text |
不過今天是可能是最後一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].start |
12472.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].end |
12474.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].text |
有機會官方跟衛福部來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].start |
12474.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].end |
12476.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].text |
做詢答所以今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].start |
12476.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].end |
12478.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].text |
就想要針對兩個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].start |
12478.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].end |
12480.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].text |
比較緊急需要的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].start |
12480.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].end |
12482.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].text |
來跟有關的施署來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].start |
12482.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].end |
12484.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].text |
那第一個部分是跟144 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].start |
12484.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].end |
12486.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].text |
相關就是完善基層 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].start |
12486.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].end |
12488.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].text |
診所這些法尊跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].start |
12488.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].end |
12490.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].text |
協助有關於不管是資訊專區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].start |
12490.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].end |
12492.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].text |
社會保險或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].start |
12492.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].end |
12494.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].text |
預防醫療暴力爭議跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].start |
12494.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].end |
12496.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].text |
隱私權的平衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].start |
12496.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].end |
12498.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].text |
那第二部分是國健署有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].start |
12498.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].end |
12500.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].text |
平衡危害防治規範跟創作的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].start |
12500.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].end |
12502.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].text |
自由部分所以第一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].start |
12502.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].end |
12504.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].text |
要請144 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].start |
12504.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].end |
12506.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].text |
卓立平前任記政 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].start |
12506.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].end |
12508.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].text |
來考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].start |
12508.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].end |
12510.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].start |
12513.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].end |
12515.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].text |
我也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].start |
12516.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].end |
12518.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].text |
第一部分就是要完善基層診所 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].start |
12518.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].end |
12520.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].text |
法尊的這個資訊跟協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].start |
12520.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].end |
12522.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].text |
如果我們看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].start |
12522.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].end |
12524.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].text |
在144 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].start |
12524.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].end |
12526.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].text |
的網路上面的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].start |
12526.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].end |
12528.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].text |
我們可以發現其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].start |
12528.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].end |
12530.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].text |
對於基層診所的資訊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].start |
12530.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].end |
12532.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].text |
專區相對是不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].start |
12532.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].end |
12534.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].text |
我們從這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].start |
12534.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].end |
12536.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].text |
畫面上可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].start |
12536.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].end |
12538.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].text |
這些專區裡面有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].start |
12538.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].end |
12540.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].text |
法人管理醫事爭議調節 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].start |
12540.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].end |
12542.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].text |
醫事人員管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].start |
12542.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].end |
12544.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].text |
等等可是對於基層診所 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].start |
12544.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].end |
12546.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].text |
各項的法尊跟常見的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].start |
12546.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].end |
12548.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].text |
疑義的說明跟資訊專區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].start |
12548.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].end |
12550.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].text |
其實是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].start |
12550.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].end |
12552.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].text |
那麼好如果是醫事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].start |
12552.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].end |
12554.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].text |
人員的管理裝他其實有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].start |
12554.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].end |
12556.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].text |
關醫師勞動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].start |
12556.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].end |
12558.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].text |
權力的推動的部分主要在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].start |
12558.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].end |
12560.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].text |
講教學醫院裡面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].start |
12560.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].end |
12562.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].text |
住院醫師相關勞動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].start |
12562.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].end |
12564.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].text |
這些權力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].start |
12564.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].end |
12566.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].text |
的部分那關於醫師制度當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].start |
12566.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].end |
12568.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].text |
就會跟公醫比較有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].start |
12568.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].end |
12570.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].text |
法人管理裡面主要在講裁斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].start |
12570.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].end |
12572.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].text |
法人專區跟相關的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].start |
12572.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].end |
12574.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].text |
裁斷法人的資訊所以就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].start |
12574.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].end |
12576.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].text |
針對基層診所的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].start |
12576.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].end |
12578.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].text |
沒有提供完善的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].start |
12578.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].end |
12580.12 |
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資訊的協助所以 |
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12580.12 |
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12582.12 |
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我們在想說衛福部是不是 |
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12582.12 |
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12584.12 |
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能夠醫師在這邊研議基層 |
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12584.12 |
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12586.12 |
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診所 |
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12585.37 |
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12587.37 |
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醫術院 |
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12586.98 |
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12588.98 |
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的樣態嘛這些樣態 |
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12588.98 |
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12590.98 |
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如何能夠讓他類型化的過程 |
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12590.98 |
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12592.98 |
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裡面他們有更好的一些 |
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12592.98 |
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12594.98 |
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資訊的這些來源包括 |
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12596.98 |
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診所負責人那如果是合夥 |
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12598.98 |
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的醫師合作的醫師 |
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12600.98 |
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或者是受僱的醫師有完整的這個 |
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12600.98 |
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資訊的一個平台 |
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12604.98 |
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也讓他來協助大家 |
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12604.98 |
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12606.98 |
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在診所這些法律的部分 |
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是有所加強 |
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12610.98 |
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那因為很多的規範事實上是 |
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12610.98 |
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12612.98 |
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簽署法動全身 |
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12612.98 |
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12614.98 |
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所以我們希望讓這個基層診所的醫師 |
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12614.98 |
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12616.98 |
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在有完整資訊的情形下來 |
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12616.98 |
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12618.98 |
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做好的選擇 |
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12618.98 |
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12620.98 |
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也有地方讓他們清楚知道說做這些選擇 |
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12620.98 |
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12622.98 |
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以後他相關的權利 |
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12622.98 |
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12624.98 |
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跟義務負責人有負責人的 |
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12624.98 |
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12626.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].text |
權利義務如果是合夥的醫師 |
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12626.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].end |
12628.98 |
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有合夥醫師的或者是 |
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12628.98 |
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12630.98 |
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合作的或受僱的都有應該有相關 |
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12630.98 |
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的義務的這個處理 |
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12632.98 |
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12634.98 |
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模式會相對比較完整那 |
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12634.98 |
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12636.98 |
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相對其實這個醫師就包括 |
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12636.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].end |
12638.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].text |
西醫師中醫師跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].start |
12638.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].end |
12640.98 |
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牙醫師那這些 |
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12640.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].end |
12642.98 |
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規範都會牽扯到跨部會的 |
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12642.98 |
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12644.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].text |
法規我們希望能夠透過 |
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12644.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].end |
12646.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].text |
會部來提供協助跟 |
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12646.98 |
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12648.98 |
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資訊整合的部分 |
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12648.98 |
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12650.98 |
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那這部分 |
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12650.98 |
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12652.98 |
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有沒有機會兩額業理工 |
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12652.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].end |
12654.98 |
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來研議讓這個 |
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12654.98 |
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12656.98 |
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研議的結果讓我們有所知悉 |
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12656.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].end |
12658.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].text |
是謝謝委員的關心 |
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12658.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].end |
12660.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].text |
事實上這醫師人員他們的 |
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12660.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].end |
12662.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].text |
工作條件這塊我們是非常在意 |
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12662.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].end |
12664.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].text |
非常注重跟關心 |
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12664.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].end |
12666.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].text |
在各個不同的類型包含診所 |
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12666.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].end |
12668.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].text |
醫療環境這些等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].start |
12668.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].end |
12670.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].text |
那這些當然牽涉到 |
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12670.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].end |
12672.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].text |
很多不同的法規 |
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12672.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].end |
12674.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].text |
包含勞動部的相關法規 |
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12674.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].end |
12676.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].text |
那也是謝謝委員上次有召開 |
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12676.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].end |
12678.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].text |
一個會議我們做一些研討 |
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12678.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].end |
12680.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].text |
那事實上勞動部 |
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12680.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].end |
12682.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].text |
有發函在針對相關的 |
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12682.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].end |
12684.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].text |
法規法相關的規範 |
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12684.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].end |
12686.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].text |
有在做函事那我們 |
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12686.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].end |
12688.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].text |
也有函轉各個衛生局 |
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12688.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].end |
12690.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].text |
那我們同時也給各個醫師公會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].start |
12690.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].end |
12692.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].text |
把相關的訊息 |
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12692.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].end |
12694.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].text |
資料相關的揭露讓 |
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12694.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].end |
12696.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].text |
大家各個會員都清楚那我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].start |
12696.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].end |
12698.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].text |
後續也會規劃說是不是 |
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12698.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].end |
12700.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].text |
在各個我們的網站上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].start |
12700.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].end |
12702.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].text |
可以把相關的資訊放上來讓大家更清楚 |
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12702.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].end |
12704.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].text |
跟了解是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].start |
12704.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].end |
12706.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].text |
就如您所提到的針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].start |
12706.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].end |
12708.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].text |
基層診所職業醫師的社會保險 |
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12708.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].end |
12710.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].text |
的這些保障 |
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12710.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].end |
12712.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].text |
最近也有勞動部也希望 |
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12712.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].end |
12714.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].text |
能夠關心從畫面上我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].start |
12714.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].end |
12716.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].text |
可以看到在四萬兩千 |
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12716.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].end |
12718.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].text |
多位的這個診所職業 |
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12718.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].end |
12720.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].text |
醫師裡面還有八千 |
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12720.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].end |
12722.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].text |
多位有將近20%是沒有 |
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12722.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].end |
12724.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].text |
投保的這些狀態 |
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12724.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].end |
12726.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].text |
之下所以我們如何能夠讓 |
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12726.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].end |
12728.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].text |
這些診所醫師符合法規的規範 |
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12728.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].end |
12730.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].text |
讓大家可以共同 |
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12730.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].end |
12732.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].text |
針對基層醫師的診所 |
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12732.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].end |
12734.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].text |
還有相關單位 |
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12734.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].end |
12736.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].text |
來做更好的這些 |
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12736.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].end |
12738.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].text |
有關勞動權或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].start |
12738.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].end |
12740.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].text |
該有的處理模式 |
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12740.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].end |
12742.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].text |
能夠原本的來處理當然 |
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12742.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].end |
12744.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].text |
也希望這個過程能夠 |
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12744.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].end |
12746.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].text |
有充分的時間來討論的同時 |
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12746.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].end |
12748.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].text |
也希望是以一個溫和的方式 |
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12748.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].end |
12750.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].text |
來協助跟處理 |
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12750.98 |
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12752.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].text |
這是有關於這個 |
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12752.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].end |
12754.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].text |
基層診所專區的部分 |
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12754.98 |
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12756.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].text |
再過來是有關於這個醫療機構 |
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12756.98 |
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12758.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].text |
隱私維護的地方 |
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12758.98 |
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12760.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].text |
我們知道目前醫師這邊 |
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12760.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].end |
12762.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].text |
也在討論醫療機構 |
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12762.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].end |
12764.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].text |
的這個醫療隱私權 |
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12764.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].end |
12766.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].text |
的維護規範主要是 |
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12766.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].end |
12768.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].text |
因為之前有一些 |
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12768.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].end |
12770.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].text |
相關的影響 |
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12770.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].end |
12772.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].text |
或者是資訊造成 |
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12772.98 |
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12774.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].text |
對民眾的一些 |
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12774.98 |
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12776.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].text |
很明顯的影響 |
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12776.98 |
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12778.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].text |
這個部分我們也知道目前 |
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12778.98 |
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12780.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].text |
有設定了一個 |
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12780.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].end |
12782.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].text |
比較 |
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12782.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].end |
12784.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].text |
希望民眾在就醫的過程裡面 |
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12784.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].end |
12786.98 |
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有好的方式 |
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12786.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].end |
12788.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].text |
去同意他的 |
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12788.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].end |
12790.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].text |
這個整個不管是在 |
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12790.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].end |
12792.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].text |
影像錄音 |
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12792.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].end |
12794.98 |
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或者是在可能會 |
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需要錄影的同意書 |
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這個草案我想應該 |
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你也很清楚 |
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那這個部分其實針對 |
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診所的醫師來講 |
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他其實是蠻困擾的 |
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他還看一個感冒 |
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結果他就需要一個書面同意書 |
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這個書面同意書裡面 |
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有非常完整的一個特定目的 |
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有十幾項 |
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他其實很難勾選說到底我來看感冒 |
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或是來看一個 |
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一般的疾病 |
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需要簽署到這個書面的同意書嗎 |
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這個當然這個知情權是 |
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很重要可是如果平衡 |
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這個知情權跟他該有的 |
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這個實際上的作業這部分 |
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除了說 |
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持續來草擬這個同意書的內容 |
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的同時他有沒有機會 |
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是提供一個建置的數位 |
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或電子同意的平台跟機制 |
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讓診所的病患 |
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還有在跟 |
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診所互動之間 |
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在執行上有更方便 |
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這部分不知道醫師是 |
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再過來有沒有機會來做這方面的努力 |
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是謝謝委員關心 |
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那針對這一塊我們 |
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現在有彙整各個 |
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各界的意見因為這個 |
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事實上這個規範出去 |
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我們也收到很多聲音 |
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我們預計因為我們有跨部會討論 |
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然後我們會跟各個專家學者做一些 |
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內容文字 |
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法律上的討論我們預計 |
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九月中旬會公告一個 |
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所謂的醫療 |
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機構內錄音錄影告知 |
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自己同意書的這個規範的 |
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草案我們大概九月中旬 |
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會做一個公告是原則上 |
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如果能夠在這個低風險 |
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的情形之下可以 |
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有好的處理模式包括 |
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相用電子或者是數位模式 |
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處理的話 |
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比較環保在整個資料 |
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12900.98 |
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的收集也相對是比較方便 |
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所以針對無止化的需求 |
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之下我們希望有更多 |
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12904.98 |
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多元的方式來處理這 |
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部分也希望醫師是這邊 |
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來自信努力 |
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謝謝請回座 |
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再過來就是有關於這個 |
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12916.98 |
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平民戀愛防治規範跟創作自由 |
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| transcript.whisperx[4808].end |
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的部分麻煩國民健康署 |
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12920.98 |
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的羅書英署長 |
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12922.89 |
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主席跟委員大家好 |
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最近應該大家都關注到一個 |
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有關於網路平台上的動畫 |
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因為他在這個過程 |
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裡面出現了煙品 |
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的一個畫面所以經過家長 |
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跟團體的檢舉以後呢 |
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12938.89 |
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額府部就請地方衛生局 |
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去查明寒情業者 |
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| transcript.whisperx[4819].end |
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要妥善處理那多數 |
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| transcript.whisperx[4820].end |
12944.89 |
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的這些動畫的待遇商已經 |
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做了預防性的下架 |
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部長 司部長也公開表示 |
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12950.89 |
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有關於目前的紅線 |
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12952.89 |
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在煙品品牌要遮蔽 |
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模糊或去世別化 |
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並且要加監獄等提示的 |
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這些警訊那經過處理以後 |
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就可以再次的這個上架 |
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12962.89 |
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看播可是這個事件 |
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這個過程裡面其實也提醒我們 |
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12967.12 |
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針對廉氦防治法第十二條 |
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12967.12 |
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12969.12 |
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相關的規定中有關廣告 |
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12969.12 |
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宣傳的定義其實 |
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並沒有那麼明確啦 |
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就是模糊法上雖然紅線是有寫 |
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禁止明確呈現於煙品品牌 |
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他一定要加強定義 |
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可是其實並沒有明確的 |
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執法規或者是函事 |
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所以郭建署跟CNN |
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其實有自訂廣電 |
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內容出現CNN畫面或情節 |
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的這個自播的處理 |
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原則 |
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比較像是一種自律參考的行政指導 |
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而不是比較有 |
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強力的這個函事 |
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所以這個平台 |
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其實他是針對這個廣電業者 |
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那要適用到電影 |
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或者是適用到網路平台 |
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的這些影視動漫 |
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好像空間是 |
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蠻模糊的 |
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因為我們知道NCC負責的是廣播電視 |
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13015.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].end |
13017.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].text |
文化部負責的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].start |
13017.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].end |
13019.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].text |
電影那網路平台的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].start |
13019.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].end |
13021.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].text |
影視動漫的主責機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].start |
13021.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].end |
13023.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].text |
其實現在還是在模糊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].start |
13023.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].end |
13025.12 |
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沒有那麼明確所以我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].start |
13025.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].end |
13027.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].text |
衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].start |
13027.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].end |
13029.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].text |
包括還有國建署最近能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].start |
13029.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].end |
13031.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].text |
在跟NCC跟文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].start |
13031.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].end |
13033.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].text |
甚至是蘇發部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].start |
13033.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].end |
13035.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].text |
等相關的部會一起來開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].start |
13035.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].end |
13037.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].text |
相關的研議如何能夠在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].start |
13037.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].end |
13039.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].text |
尊重創作自由的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].start |
13039.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].end |
13041.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].text |
前提之下來執行有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].start |
13041.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].end |
13043.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].text |
沿海防治法的法規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].start |
13043.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].end |
13045.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].text |
甚至看是不是要建立更明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].start |
13045.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].end |
13047.12 |
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的指引或者是函事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].start |
13047.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].end |
13049.12 |
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因為我們相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].start |
13049.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].end |
13051.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].text |
大家都希望保障創作的自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].start |
13051.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].end |
13053.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].text |
那可是也要支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].start |
13053.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].end |
13055.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].text |
這個沿海防治等健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].start |
13055.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].end |
13057.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].text |
促進跟保障的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].start |
13057.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].end |
13059.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].text |
我們不希望這個衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].start |
13059.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].end |
13061.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].text |
的這個情形之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].start |
13061.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].end |
13063.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].text |
去扼殺了這個創作的自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].start |
13063.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].end |
13065.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].text |
當然我們也需要好的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].start |
13065.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].end |
13067.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].text |
執法來讓這個沿海防治 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].start |
13067.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].end |
13069.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].text |
可以得到最大的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].start |
13069.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].end |
13071.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].text |
所以能不能麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].start |
13071.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].end |
13073.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].text |
國建署這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].start |
13073.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].end |
13075.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].text |
來召開相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].start |
13075.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].end |
13077.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].text |
所以大家共同來面對這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].start |
13080.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].end |
13082.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].text |
謝謝委員跟各界的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].start |
13082.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].end |
13085.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].text |
國民健康署重視兒少健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].start |
13085.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].end |
13087.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].text |
也尊重創作自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].start |
13087.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].end |
13089.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].text |
那委員關心的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].start |
13089.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].end |
13091.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].text |
我們在菸品及 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].start |
13091.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].end |
13094.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].text |
吸金菸品的防治測淨會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].start |
13094.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].end |
13096.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].text |
相關工作小組會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].start |
13096.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].end |
13098.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].text |
我們會邀集這個抒發部NCC |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].start |
13098.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].end |
13100.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].text |
還有抒發部等相關單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].start |
13100.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].end |
13102.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].text |
我們儘速再來做研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].start |
13102.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].end |
13104.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].text |
也謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].start |
13104.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].end |
13106.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].text |
好 那就麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].start |
13106.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].end |
13108.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].text |
大家一起努力 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].start |
13109.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].end |
13111.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].text |
謝謝王振旭委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].start |
13112.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].end |
13115.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].text |
葉原之委員 葉原之委員 葉原之委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].start |
13115.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].end |
13118.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].text |
沈博洋委員改書面質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].start |
13118.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].end |
13121.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].text |
那接下來請陳瑩委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].start |
13130.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].end |
13133.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].text |
謝謝主席 麻煩請勞動部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].start |
13135.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].end |
13138.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].text |
有請勞動部葉佩傑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].start |
13144.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].end |
13145.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].start |
13151.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].end |
13152.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].start |
13152.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].end |
13154.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].text |
你好 那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].start |
13154.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].end |
13156.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].text |
我們今天要討論這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].start |
13156.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].end |
13160.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].text |
性侵害犯罪防治法的修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].start |
13160.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].end |
13163.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].text |
本席在這邊想針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].start |
13163.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].end |
13165.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].text |
一個很重要但是過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].start |
13165.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].end |
13169.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].text |
卻常被忽略的問題來就教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].start |
13169.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].end |
13172.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].text |
那如果今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].start |
13172.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].end |
13174.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].text |
一名勞工在工作場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].start |
13174.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].end |
13177.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].text |
遭到主管的性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].start |
13177.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].end |
13180.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].text |
那這是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].start |
13180.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].end |
13183.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].text |
能夠算是一個單純的刑事案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].start |
13186.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].end |
13188.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].text |
博洋委員 這個如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].start |
13188.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].end |
13190.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].text |
依照性供法規定的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].start |
13190.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].end |
13192.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].text |
僱主遇到這個職場的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].start |
13192.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].end |
13194.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].text |
性侵害的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].start |
13194.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].end |
13195.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].text |
他其實也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].start |
13195.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].end |
13197.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].text |
性供法的性騷擾案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].start |
13197.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].end |
13199.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].text |
僱主也是要以性供法說掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].start |
13199.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].end |
13200.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].text |
所以很顯然答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].start |
13200.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].end |
13201.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].text |
就不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].start |
13203.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].end |
13205.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].text |
單純的刑事案件不能這樣看待 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].start |
13205.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].end |
13209.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].text |
那我們在這邊要進一步確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].start |
13209.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].end |
13212.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].text |
除了刑事責任之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].start |
13212.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].end |
13214.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].text |
這個案件是不是也可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].start |
13214.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].end |
13217.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].text |
涉及到性別平等工作法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].start |
13217.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].end |
13219.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].text |
你剛剛已經有講好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].start |
13219.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].end |
13222.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].text |
那如果我們今天是主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].start |
13222.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].end |
13224.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].text |
利用職權對部署來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].start |
13224.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].end |
13226.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].text |
性侵害的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].start |
13226.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].end |
13228.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].text |
而且這個被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].start |
13228.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].end |
13231.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].text |
他因此產生了恐懼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].start |
13231.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].end |
13233.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].text |
還有精神壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].start |
13233.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].end |
13237.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].text |
甚至說他不敢再繼續去工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].start |
13237.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].end |
13239.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].text |
那這是不是也可能涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].start |
13239.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].end |
13241.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].text |
這個職業安全衛生法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].start |
13241.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].end |
13243.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].text |
所處理的這個執行職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].start |
13243.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].end |
13245.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].text |
遭受不法侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].start |
13247.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].end |
13248.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].start |
13248.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].end |
13249.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].text |
你剛剛所提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].start |
13249.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].end |
13250.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].text |
因為他的先決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].start |
13250.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].end |
13253.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].text |
當然就是說像性騷擾這樣一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].start |
13253.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].end |
13254.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].text |
也是屬於我們職安法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].start |
13254.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].end |
13256.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].text |
所提到的職場不法侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].start |
13256.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].end |
13257.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].start |
13257.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].end |
13260.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].text |
那另外現在的這個職安法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].start |
13260.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].end |
13262.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].text |
已經進一步建立了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].start |
13262.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].end |
13264.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].text |
這個職場霸凌的相關規範了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].start |
13265.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].end |
13269.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].text |
那但是我要在這裡特別釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].start |
13269.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].end |
13270.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].text |
職場性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].start |
13271.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].end |
13273.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].text |
是不是就等於職場霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].start |
13275.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].end |
13276.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].start |
13277.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].end |
13278.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].text |
性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].start |
13278.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].end |
13281.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].text |
因為這兩個他在定義上是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].start |
13281.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].end |
13282.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].start |
13282.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].end |
13283.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].text |
那如果不是的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].start |
13283.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].end |
13285.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].text |
本席也同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].start |
13285.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].end |
13288.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].text |
因為兩者的這個法律構成的要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].start |
13288.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].end |
13291.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].text |
並不完全相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].start |
13291.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].end |
13292.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].start |
13292.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].end |
13295.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].text |
我要問的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].start |
13295.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].end |
13296.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].text |
同一個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].start |
13296.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].end |
13300.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].text |
有沒有可能他同時成立性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].start |
13301.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].end |
13304.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].text |
性別平等工作法的這個詮釋性騷擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].start |
13304.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].end |
13306.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].text |
以及職場不法侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].start |
13306.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].end |
13308.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].text |
甚至職場霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].start |
13308.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].end |
13312.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].text |
例如說主管性侵害女部署之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].start |
13312.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].end |
13316.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].text |
他利用這個考機申簽 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].start |
13316.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].end |
13319.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].text |
還有工作分配等號去威脅被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].start |
13319.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].end |
13322.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].text |
然後要求他不可以講出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].start |
13322.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].end |
13324.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].text |
那這種情況是不是就是他同時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].start |
13324.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].end |
13328.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].text |
就跨越了三個法律的領域 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].start |
13329.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].end |
13333.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].text |
所以如果今天一旦有這樣的犯罪事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].start |
13333.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].end |
13337.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].text |
勞動主管機關需不需要介入調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].start |
13337.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].end |
13339.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].text |
有可能他就是這種不法侵害行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].start |
13339.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].end |
13342.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].text |
他可能是屬於您剛剛提到的這種附屬行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].start |
13342.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].end |
13343.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].text |
那這些附屬行為的話呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].start |
13343.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].end |
13345.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].text |
僱主他就應該要依照 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].start |
13345.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].end |
13346.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].text |
我們各自的法令規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].start |
13346.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].end |
13347.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].text |
比如像性供法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].start |
13347.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].end |
13351.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].text |
還有我們目前審案法所訂的職場霸凌的相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].start |
13351.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].end |
13352.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].text |
去做調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].start |
13352.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].end |
13353.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].start |
13353.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].end |
13355.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].text |
那在之前呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].start |
13355.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].end |
13359.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].text |
我特別要提一個令人相當生氣的一個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].start |
13359.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].end |
13360.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].start |
13362.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].end |
13365.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].text |
之前發生在這個麥當勞主管性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].start |
13365.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].end |
13367.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].text |
這個未成年部署的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].start |
13367.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].end |
13368.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].start |
13368.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].end |
13372.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].text |
這個案子在第一審判決是給予不起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].start |
13372.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].end |
13374.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].text |
而理由是罪證不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].start |
13375.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].end |
13379.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].text |
隨後呢這個案子又經過高檢署發回更審 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].start |
13380.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].end |
13382.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].text |
那這個案子發生之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].start |
13382.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].end |
13384.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].text |
台北市政府勞動局 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].start |
13384.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].end |
13387.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].text |
依照這個違反性供法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].start |
13387.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].end |
13390.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].text |
對麥當勞開罰新台幣100萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].start |
13390.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].end |
13393.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].text |
那台灣麥當勞獲得這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].start |
13393.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].end |
13395.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].text |
他們獲報之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].start |
13395.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].end |
13398.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].text |
將這個涉案的主管把它解僱了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].start |
13399.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].end |
13404.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].text |
但是呢因為這個性侵屬於刑事偵查的範疇嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].start |
13404.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].end |
13406.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].text |
公司在後續呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].start |
13406.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].end |
13409.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].text |
他僅僅依照這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].start |
13409.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].end |
13411.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].text |
性別平等工作法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].start |
13411.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].end |
13414.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].text |
去處理這個職場性騷擾的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].start |
13414.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].end |
13416.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].text |
好優勢可見喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].start |
13416.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].end |
13417.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].text |
職場性侵 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].start |
13417.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].end |
13420.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].text |
他一定涉及到職場性騷擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].start |
13420.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].end |
13421.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].text |
而且呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].start |
13422.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].end |
13426.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].text |
嗯也是屬於這個職場霸凌的樣態 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].start |
13427.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].end |
13430.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].text |
因為這個被害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].start |
13430.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].end |
13433.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].text |
他的身體已經受到不法侵害了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].start |
13433.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].end |
13434.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].text |
那可是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].start |
13434.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].end |
13437.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].text |
僱主跟這個勞動主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].start |
13437.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].end |
13439.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].text |
好像似乎他只能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].start |
13439.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].end |
13441.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].text |
他們只能事後來調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].start |
13441.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].end |
13443.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].text |
而且在傷害發生之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].start |
13443.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].end |
13445.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].text |
當事人跟這個家屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].start |
13445.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].end |
13448.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].text |
面對司法只能自力救濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].start |
13449.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].end |
13453.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].text |
在這個調查結果跟報告呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].start |
13453.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].end |
13456.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].text |
也沒有辦法提供給司法機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].start |
13457.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].end |
13460.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].text |
所以本期要在這裡強烈的建議喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].start |
13460.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].end |
13462.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].text |
行政調查的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].start |
13462.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].end |
13466.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].text |
應該要主動提供給受害人跟家屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].start |
13467.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].end |
13469.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].text |
在他們面對司法的時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].start |
13469.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].end |
13472.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].text |
才可以提供給這個法院參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].start |
13472.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].end |
13473.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].text |
我想這樣的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].start |
13473.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].end |
13475.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].text |
我不曉得你們勞動部的看法是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].start |
13479.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].end |
13485.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].text |
謝謝委員這邊就是針對我們這個性供法相關的一些規範提出一些建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].start |
13485.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].end |
13488.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].text |
那其實依照現在地方在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].start |
13488.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].end |
13490.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].text |
主管機關在受理工作場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].start |
13490.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].end |
13496.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].text |
性騷擾事件的申訴處理辦法裡面的第18條裡面有去規定到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].start |
13497.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].end |
13501.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].text |
地方主管機關如果受理了職場性騷擾的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].start |
13501.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].end |
13504.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].text |
做完的這個處理結果的部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].start |
13504.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].end |
13508.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].text |
其實要用書面通知給申訴人跟被申訴人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].start |
13508.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].end |
13511.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].text |
那委員這邊就是進一步有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].start |
13511.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].end |
13513.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].text |
詢詢或是有提建議到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].start |
13513.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].end |
13517.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].text |
為了進一步保障到後續這一個申訴人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].start |
13517.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].end |
13522.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].text |
他可能相關後面的司法的一些資源的整備的部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].start |
13522.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].end |
13524.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].text |
那可能關於這個部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].start |
13524.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].end |
13526.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].text |
我們這邊會在會同相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].start |
13526.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].end |
13530.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].text |
跟地方再做一個相關議題的研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].start |
13531.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].end |
13533.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].text |
你們要研議多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].start |
13533.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].end |
13535.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].text |
什麼時候可以研議完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].start |
13535.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].end |
13537.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].start |
13537.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].end |
13539.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].start |
13538.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].end |
13540.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].text |
這邊可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].start |
13541.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].end |
13543.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].text |
在跟地方這邊在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].start |
13543.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].end |
13545.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].text |
在溝通的部分的話可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].start |
13545.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].end |
13547.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].text |
委員可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].start |
13547.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].end |
13549.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].text |
大概可以給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].start |
13549.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].end |
13551.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].text |
兩個兩到三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].start |
13551.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].end |
13553.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].text |
對謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].start |
13553.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].end |
13555.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].text |
那時候我可能也從這裡畢業了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].start |
13557.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].end |
13559.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].text |
好我想是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].start |
13559.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].end |
13561.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].text |
那你們起碼我是不是可以在兩週內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].start |
13561.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].end |
13565.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].text |
可以來啟動安排這個會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].start |
13565.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].end |
13568.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].text |
你總要總要開始有動作嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].start |
13568.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].end |
13572.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].text |
不然通常喔這個行政機關啊說這個兩三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].start |
13572.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].end |
13575.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].text |
其實都是有時候常常壓到很後面啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].start |
13575.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].end |
13577.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].text |
那在過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].start |
13577.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].end |
13579.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].text |
有一些單位喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].start |
13579.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].end |
13581.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].text |
甚至部長都交代了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].start |
13582.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].end |
13584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].text |
我半年過去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].start |
13584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].end |
13586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].text |
沒有進度然後部長又要再重新 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].start |
13586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].end |
13588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].text |
對不起然後重新再 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].start |
13588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].end |
13590.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].text |
要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].start |
13590.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].end |
13592.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].text |
壓日期一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].start |
13592.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].end |
13594.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].text |
所以這個往返之間可能就一年過去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].start |
13595.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].end |
13597.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].text |
所以本消息喔你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].start |
13597.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].end |
13599.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].text |
兩週是很 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].start |
13599.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].end |
13601.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].text |
很滿寬限的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].start |
13601.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].end |
13603.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].text |
我是要求你們要開始啟動這個工作嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].start |
13607.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].end |
13609.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].text |
啟動這個研議啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].start |
13609.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].end |
13611.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].text |
好我們這邊就是先來做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].start |
13611.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].end |
13613.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].text |
規劃這個會議的相關研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].start |
13613.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].end |
13615.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].text |
好那今天現在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].start |
13615.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].end |
13617.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].text |
現在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].start |
13617.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].end |
13619.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].text |
八月嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].start |
13619.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].end |
13621.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].text |
那你們啟動之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].start |
13621.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].end |
13623.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].text |
我是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].start |
13623.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].end |
13625.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].text |
在就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].start |
13625.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].end |
13627.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].text |
大概在十月的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].start |
13627.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].end |
13629.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].text |
好十月中旬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].start |
13629.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].end |
13631.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].text |
可以有一個比較初步的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].start |
13631.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].end |
13633.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].text |
一個結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].start |
13633.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].end |
13635.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].text |
好這邊再把相關的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].start |
13635.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].end |
13637.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].text |
研議的結果再 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].start |
13637.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].end |
13639.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].text |
再回覆委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].start |
13639.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].end |
13641.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].start |
13641.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].end |
13643.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].text |
這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].start |
13643.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].end |
13645.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].text |
在最近當然監察院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].start |
13645.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].end |
13647.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].text |
也針對台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].start |
13647.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].end |
13649.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].text |
台北市政府的勞動局提出糾正 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].start |
13649.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].end |
13651.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].text |
那指出這個勞動局在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].start |
13651.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].end |
13653.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].text |
接獲通報的時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].start |
13653.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].end |
13655.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].text |
沒有落實跨局處的橫向聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].start |
13655.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].end |
13657.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].text |
跟這個性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].start |
13657.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].end |
13659.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].text |
責任通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].start |
13659.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].end |
13661.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].text |
那他們也沒有積極督導 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].start |
13661.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].end |
13663.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].text |
這個僱主提供被害人完整的保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].start |
13663.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].end |
13665.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].text |
我想要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].start |
13665.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].end |
13667.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].text |
這樣的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].start |
13667.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].end |
13669.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].text |
理由勞動部你們認同嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].start |
13672.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].end |
13674.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].text |
跟回覆委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].start |
13674.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].end |
13676.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].text |
因為其實在我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].start |
13676.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].end |
13678.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].text |
勞動部有建置職場 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].start |
13678.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].end |
13680.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].text |
性騷擾通報的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].start |
13680.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].end |
13682.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].text |
這個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].start |
13682.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].end |
13684.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].text |
的這個系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].start |
13684.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].end |
13686.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].text |
那所以其實事業單位他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].start |
13686.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].end |
13688.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].text |
如果接收到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].start |
13688.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].end |
13690.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].text |
事業單位如果依法受理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].start |
13690.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].end |
13692.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].text |
性騷擾的案子之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].start |
13692.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].end |
13694.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].text |
他其實就會上去做一個通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].start |
13694.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].end |
13696.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].text |
那通報系統就會自動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].start |
13696.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].end |
13698.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].text |
轉給地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].start |
13698.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].end |
13700.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].text |
所以其實地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].start |
13700.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].end |
13702.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].text |
他其實收到這樣的案件之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].start |
13702.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].end |
13704.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].text |
尤其是針對未滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].start |
13704.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].end |
13706.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].text |
18歲跟性侵害的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].start |
13706.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].end |
13708.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].text |
這樣的案件系統都會標註 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].start |
13708.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].end |
13710.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].text |
警示的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].start |
13710.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].end |
13712.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].text |
那所以其實後續都 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].start |
13712.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].end |
13714.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].text |
地方政府都可以去掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].start |
13714.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].end |
13716.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].text |
這個相關案件的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].start |
13716.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].end |
13718.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].text |
督導跟督促的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].start |
13720.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].end |
13722.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].text |
再見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].start |
13721.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].end |
13723.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].text |
你好像沒有回答我的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].start |
13724.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].end |
13726.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].text |
不好意思可以簽一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].start |
13727.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].end |
13729.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].text |
我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].start |
13728.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].end |
13730.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].text |
我是問你們認不認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].start |
13730.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].end |
13732.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].text |
你剛剛講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].start |
13732.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].end |
13734.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].text |
的那些都是已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].start |
13735.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].end |
13737.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].text |
本來就是規範在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].start |
13741.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].end |
13743.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].text |
是可以請不好意思請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].start |
13743.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].end |
13745.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].text |
我們再再提 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].start |
13745.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].end |
13747.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].text |
再再再 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].start |
13747.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].end |
13749.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].text |
監察院有針對台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].start |
13749.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].end |
13751.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].text |
政府勞動局 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].start |
13751.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].end |
13753.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].text |
有提出糾正嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].start |
13753.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].end |
13755.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].text |
那當然就是說他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].start |
13755.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].end |
13757.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].text |
監察院有指出說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].start |
13757.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].end |
13759.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].text |
勞動局他們在接獲通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].start |
13759.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].end |
13761.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].text |
的時候他沒有落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].start |
13761.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].end |
13763.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].text |
這個跨局處的這個橫向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].start |
13763.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].end |
13765.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].text |
聯繫還有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].start |
13765.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].end |
13767.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].text |
性侵害的這個責任通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].start |
13767.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].end |
13769.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].text |
好那他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].start |
13769.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].end |
13771.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].text |
都沒有積極去督導這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].start |
13771.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].end |
13773.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].text |
僱主 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].start |
13773.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].end |
13775.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].text |
提供被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].start |
13775.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].end |
13777.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].text |
完整的保護我是問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].start |
13777.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].end |
13779.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].text |
這樣的理由你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].start |
13779.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].end |
13781.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].text |
有沒有認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].start |
13781.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].end |
13783.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].start |
13782.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].end |
13784.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].text |
我們這邊如果是針對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].start |
13784.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].end |
13786.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].text |
性侵害防治法第十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].start |
13786.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].end |
13788.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].text |
規定的部分的話其實勞政人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].start |
13788.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].end |
13790.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].text |
他如果在執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].start |
13790.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].end |
13792.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].text |
職務上面如果相關案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].start |
13792.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].end |
13794.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].text |
有涉及到這個性侵害犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].start |
13794.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].end |
13796.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].text |
的情事的話他其實是要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].start |
13796.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].end |
13798.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].text |
做一個通報的所以其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].start |
13798.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].end |
13800.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].text |
這個可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].start |
13800.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].end |
13802.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].text |
監察院這邊具息的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].start |
13802.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].end |
13804.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].text |
的部分的話他其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].start |
13804.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].end |
13806.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].text |
糾正台北市勞動局的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].start |
13806.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].end |
13808.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].text |
重點應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].start |
13808.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].end |
13810.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].text |
是有這樣的情形好那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].start |
13810.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].end |
13812.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].text |
這個勞動部阻碍機關事後的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].start |
13812.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].end |
13814.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].text |
作為然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].start |
13814.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].end |
13816.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].text |
你覺得真的能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].start |
13816.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].end |
13818.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].text |
幫助到被害人獲得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].start |
13818.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].end |
13820.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].text |
正義跟保護嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].start |
13819.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].end |
13821.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].text |
那因為法令有規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].start |
13821.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].end |
13823.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].text |
地方主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].start |
13824.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].end |
13826.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].text |
繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].start |
13826.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].end |
13828.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].text |
法令有沒有規定到就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].start |
13828.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].end |
13830.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].text |
地方主管機關的責任嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].start |
13830.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].end |
13832.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].text |
如果沒有的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].start |
13832.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].end |
13834.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].text |
法令的部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].start |
13834.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].end |
13836.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].text |
不應該要再 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].start |
13836.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].end |
13838.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].text |
更強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].start |
13838.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].end |
13840.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].text |
了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].start |
13839.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].end |
13841.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].text |
我們這邊如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].start |
13841.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].end |
13843.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].text |
針對到這個性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].start |
13843.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].end |
13845.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].text |
的部分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].start |
13845.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].end |
13847.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].text |
規定的話因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].start |
13847.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].end |
13849.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].text |
你知不知道這個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].start |
13850.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].end |
13852.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].text |
這個案件那個被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].start |
13852.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].end |
13854.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].text |
後來怎麼了你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].start |
13854.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].end |
13856.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].start |
13856.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].end |
13858.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].text |
就是自殺生活 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].start |
13858.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].end |
13860.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].start |
13860.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].end |
13862.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].start |
13862.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].end |
13864.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].text |
我才說今天舉這個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].start |
13864.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].end |
13866.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].text |
是令人蠻生氣也蠻遺憾的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].start |
13867.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].end |
13869.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].text |
案子那我們今天拿出來做檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].start |
13870.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].end |
13872.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].text |
所以在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].start |
13873 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].end |
13875 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].text |
這個勞動部事後的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].start |
13875 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].end |
13877 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].text |
這些作為我們當然在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].start |
13877 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].end |
13879 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].text |
這個我沒有辦法去幫助那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].start |
13879 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].end |
13881 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].text |
已經死已經已經自殺身亡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].start |
13881 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].end |
13883 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].text |
的被害者嘛但是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].start |
13883 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].end |
13885 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].text |
總要在預防未來有這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].start |
13885 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].end |
13887 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].text |
事情發生嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].start |
13886.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].end |
13888.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].text |
所以這些法規的強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].start |
13889.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].end |
13891.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].text |
應該是有很應該是很需要的吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].start |
13894.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].end |
13896.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].text |
是的如果是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].start |
13896.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].end |
13898.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].text |
相關職場性騷擾案件的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].start |
13898.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].end |
13900.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].text |
預防再度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].start |
13900.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].end |
13902.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].text |
強化我們這邊可以再繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].start |
13902.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].end |
13904.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].text |
地方勞動局針對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].start |
13904.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].end |
13906.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].text |
職場性侵害的這個責任通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].start |
13906.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].end |
13908.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].text |
的對象是不是勞動部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].start |
13912 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].end |
13914 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].text |
地方針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].start |
13914 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].end |
13916 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].text |
委員是說地方勞動局 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].start |
13916 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].end |
13918 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].text |
他針對這個職場性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].start |
13918 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].end |
13920 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].text |
的責任通報對象是不是勞動部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].start |
13924.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].end |
13926.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].text |
我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].start |
13927.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].end |
13929.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].text |
應該不是他如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].start |
13929.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].end |
13931.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].text |
地方收到事業單位的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].start |
13931.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].end |
13933.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].text |
原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].start |
13932.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].end |
13934.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].text |
原則上他不是啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].start |
13934.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].end |
13936.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].text |
你也搖頭就不用害怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].start |
13936.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].end |
13938.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].text |
就講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].start |
13938.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].end |
13940.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].text |
就講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].start |
13940.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].end |
13942.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].text |
原則上不是他他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].start |
13942.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].end |
13944.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].text |
所在的所在地的這個直轄 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].start |
13944.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].end |
13946.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].text |
縣市政府的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].start |
13946.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].end |
13948.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].text |
是那 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].start |
13948.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].end |
13950.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].text |
當然就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].start |
13950.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].end |
13952.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].text |
由這個各縣市的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].start |
13952.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].end |
13954.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].text |
家庭暴力那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].start |
13954.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].end |
13956.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].text |
性侵害防治中心來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].start |
13956.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].end |
13958.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].text |
來處理嘛是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].start |
13958.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].end |
13960.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].text |
那所以受理接獲通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].start |
13960.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].end |
13962.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].text |
之後你們可以的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].start |
13962.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].end |
13964.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].text |
行政作為是什麼然後地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].start |
13964.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].end |
13966.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].text |
政府這個勞動局的橫向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].start |
13966.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].end |
13968.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].text |
聯繫有沒有包括警政 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].start |
13968.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].end |
13970.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].text |
單位他在過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].start |
13970.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].end |
13972.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].text |
有沒有聯繫警政單位的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].start |
13973.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].end |
13975.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].start |
13974.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].end |
13976.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].text |
我們這邊如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].start |
13976.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].end |
13978.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].text |
在整個通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].start |
13979.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].end |
13981.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].text |
事業單位通報的系統上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].start |
13981.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].end |
13983.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].text |
的話我們其實是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].start |
13983.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].end |
13985.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].text |
註記這個性侵害的案件轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].start |
13985.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].end |
13987.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].text |
資的話去勞政 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].start |
13987.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].end |
13989.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].text |
地方勞政他其實也是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].start |
13989.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].end |
13991.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].text |
去了解到這個是性侵害的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].start |
13991.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].end |
13993.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].text |
那地方他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].start |
13993.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].end |
13995.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].text |
就是收到這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].start |
13995.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].end |
13997.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].text |
一個轉資的案件之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].start |
13997.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].end |
13999.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].text |
他其實可以進一步再去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].start |
13999.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].end |
14001.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].text |
那至於相關的橫向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].start |
14001.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].end |
14003.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].text |
的部分如果是涉及性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].start |
14003.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].end |
14005.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].text |
可能是地方這邊橫向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].start |
14005.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].end |
14007.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].text |
的一個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].start |
14007.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].end |
14009.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].text |
那勞政人員就是一個負責通報的人嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].start |
14009.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].end |
14011.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].text |
那我今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].start |
14011.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].end |
14013.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].text |
關心的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].start |
14013.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].end |
14015.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].text |
其實就是行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].start |
14015.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].end |
14017.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].text |
的這個事前預防 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].start |
14017.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].end |
14019.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].text |
跟事後的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].start |
14019.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].end |
14021.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].text |
那性侵害之前幾乎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].start |
14021.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].end |
14023.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].text |
都有性騷擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].start |
14024.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].end |
14026.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].text |
那在職場上如果說性騷擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].start |
14026.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].end |
14028.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].text |
房子做得好的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].start |
14028.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].end |
14030.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].text |
就很難會有後續性侵害的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].start |
14030.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].end |
14032.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].text |
發生那以麥當勞這個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].start |
14032.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].end |
14034.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].text |
勞動局既然有這個職權 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].start |
14034.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].end |
14036.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].text |
去裁罰新台幣一百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].start |
14036.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].end |
14038.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].text |
元的話那表示雇主確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].start |
14038.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].end |
14040.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].text |
有違反了這個勞動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].start |
14040.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].end |
14042.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].text |
法令嘛那這就表示說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].start |
14042.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].end |
14044.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].text |
我們的職場性騷擾房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].start |
14044.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].end |
14046.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].text |
他做得不夠啊所以很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].start |
14046.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].end |
14048.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].text |
勞工朋友他不清楚甚至會擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].start |
14048.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].end |
14050.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].text |
嗯怕影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].start |
14050.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].end |
14052.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].text |
工作不敢舉發所以也 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].start |
14052.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].end |
14054.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].text |
造成後續更嚴重的性侵害的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].start |
14054.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].end |
14056.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].text |
發生哦那不幸發生了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].start |
14056.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].end |
14058.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].text |
那勞動機關幾乎也沒有什麼好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].start |
14058.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].end |
14060.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].text |
因應作為可以去幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].start |
14060.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].end |
14062.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].text |
這個受到侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].start |
14062.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].end |
14064.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].text |
的勞工所以讓勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].start |
14064.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].end |
14066.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].text |
獨自去面對司法這是很殘酷 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].start |
14066.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].end |
14068.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].text |
的事情他們還要自己去舉證 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].start |
14068.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].end |
14070.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].text |
所以這樣子就可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].start |
14070.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].end |
14072.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].text |
就以這個案例來講他就其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].start |
14072.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].end |
14074.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].text |
就是因為這個證據不足然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].start |
14074.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].end |
14076.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].text |
讓加害者有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].start |
14076.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].end |
14078.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].text |
逃脫其責啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].start |
14078.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].end |
14080.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].text |
我其實很想很想跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].start |
14080.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].end |
14082.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].text |
那個加害者講就是現在農曆七月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].start |
14082.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].end |
14084.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].text |
很多好兄弟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].start |
14084.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].end |
14086.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].text |
在外面走動他真的會受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].start |
14086.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].end |
14088.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].text |
報應那 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].start |
14088.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].end |
14090.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].text |
本席在這邊強強烈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].start |
14090.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].end |
14092.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].text |
要求就是社會的調查報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].start |
14092.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].end |
14094.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].text |
要主動提供給被害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].start |
14094.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].end |
14096.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].text |
那可以來幫助勞工捍衛自己的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].start |
14096.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].end |
14098.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].text |
爭議那這個部分我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].start |
14098.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].end |
14100.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].text |
最後我就請你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].start |
14100.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].end |
14102.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].text |
回去檢討要如何處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].start |
14102.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].end |
14104.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].text |
好那否則就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].start |
14104.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].end |
14106.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].text |
勞政單位被監察院他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].start |
14106.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].end |
14108.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].text |
糾正了他糾正完 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].start |
14108.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].end |
14110.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].text |
就是說並沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].start |
14110.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].end |
14112.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].text |
任何的不當 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].start |
14112.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].end |
14114.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].text |
不當之處的話那勞動部你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].start |
14114.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].end |
14116.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].text |
是不是可以同意哦如果在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].start |
14116.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].end |
14118.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].text |
有這個職場的性侵害發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].start |
14119.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].end |
14121.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].text |
你們卻只能依照這個性騷擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].start |
14121.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].end |
14123.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].text |
甚至霸凌沒有調查跟採訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].start |
14123.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].end |
14125.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].text |
那我想這樣的勞動法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].start |
14125.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].end |
14127.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].text |
我們到底這個勞工海 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].start |
14127.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].end |
14129.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].text |
能夠期待期待什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].start |
14130.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].end |
14132.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].text |
好所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].start |
14132.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].end |
14134.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].text |
就是今天特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].start |
14134.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].end |
14136.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].text |
很生氣的在這裡提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].start |
14136.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].end |
14138.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].text |
就要請你們再加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].start |
14138.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].end |
14140.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].start |
14139.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].end |
14141.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].text |
謝謝委員的吹訊謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].start |
14141.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].end |
14143.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].text |
好啊不要忘記那個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].start |
14143.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].end |
14145.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].start |
14144.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].end |
14146.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].text |
好謝謝曾經委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].start |
14146.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].end |
14148.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].text |
接下來請劉建國委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].start |
14157.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].end |
14159.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].start |
14159.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].end |
14161.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].text |
請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].start |
14164.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].end |
14166.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].start |
14178.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].end |
14180.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].text |
社兒哨性影像犯罪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].start |
14180.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].end |
14182.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].text |
嫌疑的情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].start |
14182.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].end |
14184.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].text |
那衛部原本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].start |
14184.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].end |
14186.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].text |
預計是在8月要完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].start |
14186.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].end |
14188.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].text |
系統開花期然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].start |
14188.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].end |
14190.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].text |
進入試運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].start |
14190.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].end |
14192.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].text |
目前已經8月底整個系統運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].start |
14192.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].end |
14194.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].text |
狀況如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].start |
14194.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].end |
14196.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].text |
包委我們現在目前我先跟委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].start |
14196.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].end |
14198.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].text |
說一個說明時間我們正式上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].start |
14198.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].end |
14200.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].text |
是明年8月那中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].start |
14200.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].end |
14202.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].text |
會有需要經過有一些相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].start |
14202.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].end |
14204.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].text |
其實最後要事實上就是說有一些關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].start |
14204.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].end |
14206.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].text |
因為我們現在要去網路 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].start |
14206.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].end |
14208.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].text |
主動巡查那裡面有關鍵字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].start |
14208.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].end |
14210.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].text |
關鍵字裡面我們主要會會同 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].start |
14210.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].end |
14212.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].text |
司法機關警察還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].start |
14212.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].end |
14214.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].text |
這個被害人團體這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].start |
14214.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].end |
14216.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].text |
我們現在目前把這些所謂提詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].start |
14216.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].end |
14218.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].text |
那些還有那個關鍵字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].start |
14218.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].end |
14220.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].text |
把它收取然後現在目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].start |
14220.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].end |
14222.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].text |
正在加緊做這一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].start |
14223.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].end |
14225.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].text |
明年8月才會見事完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].start |
14225.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].end |
14227.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].text |
也就是說要在一年的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].start |
14227.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].end |
14229.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].text |
我現在請教是試運作的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].start |
14230.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].end |
14232.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].text |
整個系統運作狀況如何嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].start |
14233.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].end |
14235.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].text |
有沒有已經主動巡查到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].start |
14235.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].end |
14237.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].text |
這個兒上的信息像 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].start |
14237.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].end |
14239.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].text |
並完成下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].start |
14239.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].end |
14241.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].text |
包委我們現在目前大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].start |
14241.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].end |
14243.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].text |
如果是那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].start |
14243.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].end |
14245.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].text |
是那個test那個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].start |
14245.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].end |
14247.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].text |
是到9月啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].start |
14247.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].end |
14249.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].text |
9月我們9月會來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].start |
14249.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].end |
14251.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].text |
你們test的時候有沒有已經有預防性下架的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].start |
14253.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].end |
14255.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].text |
請見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].start |
14256.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].end |
14258.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].start |
14269.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].end |
14271.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].text |
你的試運要到9月嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].start |
14271.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].end |
14273.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].text |
OK好那你要一直試運 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].start |
14273.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].end |
14275.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].text |
試運到明年的8月嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].start |
14275.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].end |
14277.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].text |
對因為他有一些關鍵字需要教條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].start |
14277.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].end |
14279.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].text |
然後有一些科技的變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].start |
14279.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].end |
14281.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].text |
需要來做一些處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].start |
14281.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].end |
14283.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].text |
但是你們之前答覆委員會是8月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].start |
14283.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].end |
14285.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].text |
對是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].start |
14285.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].end |
14287.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].text |
本來是希望能這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].start |
14287.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].end |
14289.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].text |
但是因為中間有好幾個轉折 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].start |
14289.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].end |
14291.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].text |
有一些技術發現不太可行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].start |
14291.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].end |
14293.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].text |
不是你們的希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].start |
14293.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].end |
14295.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].text |
跟在委員會回答的希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].start |
14295.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].end |
14297.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].text |
是不太一樣那你們的希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].start |
14297.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].end |
14299.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].text |
是符合我們期待的希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].start |
14299.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].end |
14301.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].text |
那你們這樣的希望會讓台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].start |
14302.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].end |
14304.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].text |
會羞辱到很多的失望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].start |
14305.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].end |
14307.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].start |
14306.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].end |
14308.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].text |
而且你跟試運運需要從 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].start |
14308.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].end |
14310.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].text |
今年從9月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].start |
14310.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].end |
14312.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].text |
一直試運到明年的8月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].start |
14314.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].end |
14316.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].text |
有這種試運起這麼長的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].start |
14317.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].end |
14319.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].text |
什麼樣的特殊的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].start |
14319.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].end |
14321.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].text |
需要有這種試運運 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].start |
14321.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].end |
14323.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].text |
這麼長的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].start |
14324.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].end |
14326.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].text |
你能類比一兩項給我們做參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].start |
14326.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].end |
14328.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].text |
跟我們今天討論的主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].start |
14328.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].end |
14330.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].text |
比較相容的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].start |
14330.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].end |
14332.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].text |
有什麼樣的一個機制讓你們試運運需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].start |
14332.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].end |
14334.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].text |
足足一年的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].start |
14335.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].end |
14337.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].text |
一個示範機外頂多三個月半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].start |
14337.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].end |
14339.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].text |
一季嘛對不對兩季嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].start |
14339.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].end |
14341.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].text |
你的試運運要足足一年的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].start |
14341.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].end |
14343.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].start |
14343.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].end |
14345.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].text |
因為我們本來是希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].start |
14345.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].end |
14347.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].text |
精準的去做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].start |
14347.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].end |
14349.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].text |
那如果這一年的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].start |
14349.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].end |
14351.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].text |
可能顯得太長的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].start |
14351.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].end |
14353.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].text |
我們再來縮短這個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].start |
14353.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].end |
14355.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].text |
其實試運運的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].start |
14355.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].end |
14357.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].text |
已經在上線了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].start |
14357.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].end |
14359.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].text |
只是還沒有正式說跟大家講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].start |
14361.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].end |
14363.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].text |
試運運已經上線了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].start |
14363.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].end |
14365.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].text |
那你們的試運運你剛剛又講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].start |
14365.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].end |
14367.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].text |
9月才開始嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].start |
14367.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].end |
14369.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].text |
對我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].start |
14369.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].end |
14371.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].text |
你的上線跟你的試運運開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].start |
14371.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].end |
14373.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].text |
你的試運運的上線跟你的試運運開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].start |
14374.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].end |
14376.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].text |
這是什麼程式上的落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].start |
14377.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].end |
14379.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].text |
我聽不太懂不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].start |
14379.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].end |
14383.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].text |
報告委員因為我們現在還在做幾個關鍵字的找尋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].start |
14383.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].end |
14387.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].text |
那如果發現它跟我們原先預定的標準不太一樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].start |
14387.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].end |
14389.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].text |
我們是會做一些置換 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].start |
14389.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].end |
14391.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].text |
這個原本就有需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].start |
14391.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].end |
14393.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].text |
滾動式去做一些討論嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].start |
14393.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].end |
14395.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].text |
因應嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].start |
14395.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].end |
14397.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].start |
14397.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].end |
14399.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].text |
你的關鍵字你現在8月前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].start |
14399.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].end |
14401.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].text |
你搜尋到的關鍵字或許9月之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].start |
14401.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].end |
14403.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].text |
你原本搜尋到的關鍵字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].start |
14403.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].end |
14405.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].text |
已經不乎9月他們又新 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].start |
14405.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].end |
14407.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].text |
出來的相關的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].start |
14407.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].end |
14409.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].text |
連結的那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].start |
14409.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].end |
14411.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].text |
那些字眼啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].start |
14411.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].end |
14413.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].text |
或許8月份之前就通通沒有用了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].start |
14413.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].end |
14415.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].text |
所以應該你的試運運 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].start |
14415.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].end |
14417.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].text |
的機制應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].start |
14417.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].end |
14419.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].text |
拉長一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].start |
14419.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].end |
14421.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].text |
基本上你的緩速要非常快 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].start |
14421.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].end |
14423.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].text |
反而你這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].start |
14423.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].end |
14425.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].text |
現在進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].start |
14425.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].end |
14427.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].text |
現在已經進入到重生成代理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].start |
14427.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].end |
14429.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].text |
沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].start |
14429.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].end |
14431.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].text |
你是還在練以前的電腦是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].start |
14431.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].end |
14433.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].text |
還是怎樣我聽不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].start |
14433.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].end |
14435.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].text |
我回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].start |
14435.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].end |
14437.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].text |
那個來訂一下進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].start |
14437.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].end |
14439.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].text |
我也覺得這樣哪有時候要拖到一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].start |
14439.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].end |
14441.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].text |
對對對嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].start |
14441.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].end |
14443.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].text |
沒關係我趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].start |
14443.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].end |
14445.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].text |
縮短期程這個不能等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].start |
14445.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].end |
14447.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].text |
真的我無意諷刺 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].start |
14447.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].end |
14449.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].start |
14449.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].end |
14451.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].text |
因為你我聽中了講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].start |
14451.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].end |
14453.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].text |
我覺得很納悶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].start |
14453.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].end |
14455.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].text |
又覺得很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].start |
14455.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].end |
14457.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].text |
你上線要趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].start |
14457.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].end |
14459.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].text |
調整就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].start |
14459.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].end |
14461.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].text |
這個我回去瞭解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].start |
14461.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].end |
14463.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].text |
所以我們才可以提前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].start |
14463.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].end |
14465.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].text |
因為我如果不是要問的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].start |
14465.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].end |
14467.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].text |
你們主動尋找到兒少性影像 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].start |
14467.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].end |
14469.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].text |
並完成下家有幾件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].start |
14469.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].end |
14471.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].text |
我這個題目就不跟你問了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].start |
14471.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].end |
14473.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].text |
你現在還要去搜索 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].start |
14473.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].end |
14475.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].text |
我現在回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].start |
14475.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].end |
14477.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].text |
我來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].start |
14477.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].end |
14479.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].text |
我剛剛在聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].start |
14479.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].end |
14481.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].text |
我剛剛在聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].start |
14481.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].end |
14483.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].text |
當然同仁是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].start |
14483.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].end |
14485.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].text |
達到百分之百這怎麼可能百分之百 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].start |
14486.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].end |
14488.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].text |
對不對當然準確 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].start |
14488.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].end |
14490.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].text |
我是覺得他們自己本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].start |
14491.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].end |
14493.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].text |
要達到百分之百我想大家都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].start |
14493.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].end |
14495.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].text |
會有這樣共同的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].start |
14495.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].end |
14497.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].text |
但是這種事情的應變基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].start |
14497.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].end |
14499.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].text |
不可能讓你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].start |
14499.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].end |
14501.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].text |
我想說你要準備一年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].start |
14501.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].end |
14503.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].text |
試運期你就可以達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].start |
14503.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].end |
14505.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].text |
百分之一百 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].start |
14504.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].end |
14506.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].text |
二 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].start |
14506.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].end |
14508.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].text |
這台語你講的騙鬼不吃水 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].start |
14508.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].end |
14510.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].text |
好啦沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].start |
14510.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].end |
14512.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].text |
現在是手的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].start |
14512.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].end |
14514.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].text |
沒關係我回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].start |
14514.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].end |
14516.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].text |
趕快跟保護師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].start |
14516.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].end |
14518.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].text |
你真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].start |
14518.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].end |
14520.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].text |
剛剛這樣打我我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].start |
14520.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].end |
14522.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].text |
實在是很沒有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].start |
14522.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].end |
14524.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].text |
這個不是叫希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].start |
14524.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].end |
14526.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].text |
這整個就是讓大家很失望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].start |
14526.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].end |
14528.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].start |
14528.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].end |
14530.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].text |
所以我們待會你要做疫情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].start |
14530.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].end |
14532.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].text |
你也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].start |
14532.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].end |
14534.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].text |
跟我說一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].start |
14534.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].end |
14536.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].text |
當時可以正式來運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].start |
14536.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].end |
14538.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].text |
因為這個千變萬化速度很快 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].start |
14538.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].end |
14540.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].text |
我現在講因為是因為關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].start |
14540.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].end |
14542.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].text |
衛部也有規劃要同步納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].start |
14542.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].end |
14544.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].text |
這個成冷性影像患者案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].start |
14544.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].end |
14546.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].text |
也適用相同處理的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].start |
14546.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].end |
14548.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].text |
所以這些措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].start |
14548.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].end |
14550.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].text |
我想委員會還是本席都支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].start |
14550.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].end |
14552.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].text |
也都希望衛部接觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].start |
14552.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].end |
14554.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].text |
趕快完善 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].start |
14554.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].end |
14556.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].text |
這從此 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].start |
14556.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].end |
14558.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].text |
我還是要請衛部來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].start |
14558.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].end |
14560.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].text |
繼續關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].start |
14560.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].end |
14562.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].text |
校園這個電子菸的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].start |
14562.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].end |
14564.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].text |
國際署公佈114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].start |
14564.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].end |
14566.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].text |
青少年吸菸行為調查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].start |
14566.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].end |
14568.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].text |
國中及高中生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].start |
14568.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].end |
14570.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].text |
學生電子菸使用率分別為2.1%及5.18% |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].start |
14570.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].end |
14572.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].text |
推估至少有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].start |
14572.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].end |
14574.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].text |
4萬名以上的青少年在使用電子菸 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].start |
14574.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].end |
14576.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].text |
這個數據是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].start |
14576.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].end |
14578.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].text |
應該不止啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].start |
14579.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].end |
14581.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].text |
這個是幾倍以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].start |
14581.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].end |
14583.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].text |
本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].start |
14583.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].end |
14585.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].text |
也在本委會一直強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].start |
14585.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].end |
14587.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].text |
電子菸跟善氏菸彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].start |
14587.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].end |
14589.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].text |
也就是一起毒品的一堆名詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].start |
14589.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].end |
14591.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].text |
是深度板定電子菸 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].start |
14591.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].end |
14593.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].text |
就有高機率去接觸到這個善氏菸彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].start |
14593.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].end |
14595.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].text |
這個我在委會已經講過N次以上了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].start |
14595.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].end |
14597.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].text |
那青少年去接觸到善氏菸彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].start |
14597.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].end |
14599.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].text |
現在恐怕也不是單純的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].start |
14599.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].end |
14601.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].text |
吸毒問題喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].start |
14601.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].end |
14603.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].text |
我今天特別感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].start |
14603.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].end |
14605.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].text |
周偉排這個新疾病防治法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].start |
14605.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].end |
14607.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].text |
與兒童性剝削條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].start |
14607.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].end |
14609.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].text |
我這邊提供幾則新聞給 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].start |
14609.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].end |
14611.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].text |
各位做參考啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].start |
14611.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].end |
14613.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].text |
那第一則各位可以看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].start |
14613.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].end |
14615.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].text |
假借替女網友治療意味性皮膚炎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].start |
14615.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].end |
14617.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].text |
性侵 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].start |
14617.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].end |
14619.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].text |
男判刑4年半 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].start |
14619.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].end |
14621.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].text |
這個男子假借替女網友治療 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].start |
14621.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].end |
14623.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].text |
意味性皮膚炎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].start |
14623.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].end |
14625.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].text |
要到旅館拿一支電子菸給他抽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].start |
14625.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].end |
14627.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].text |
匡稱抽的時候可以改善他的意味性皮膚炎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].start |
14627.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].end |
14629.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].text |
那女網友不予有他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].start |
14629.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].end |
14631.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].text |
不料抽完分稅不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].start |
14631.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].end |
14633.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].text |
那清醒發現下體疼痛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].start |
14633.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].end |
14635.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].text |
助理魔破裂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].start |
14635.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].end |
14637.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].text |
奉承報警提告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].start |
14637.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].end |
14639.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].text |
那我們先不討論啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].start |
14639.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].end |
14641.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].text |
但是這個整個就是一個犯罪行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].start |
14642.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].end |
14644.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].text |
歲月好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].start |
14643.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].end |
14645.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].text |
因為這個無視 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].start |
14645.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].end |
14647.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].text |
送後妹哭完不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].start |
14647.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].end |
14649.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].text |
喪屍郎竟辯稱他自己脫衣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].start |
14649.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].end |
14651.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].text |
也是一個男子先用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].start |
14651.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].end |
14653.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].text |
三十一菸彈在我路上約到一名 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].start |
14653.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].end |
14655.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].text |
未曾遇上女 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].start |
14655.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].end |
14657.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].text |
在旅館進行性侵 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].start |
14657.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].end |
14659.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].text |
因為在自己認識的女性友人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].start |
14659.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].end |
14661.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].text |
有飲酒的情況下遞給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].start |
14661.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].end |
14663.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].text |
三十一菸彈的電子菸吸死 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].start |
14663.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].end |
14665.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].text |
在女子接過電子菸吸死之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].start |
14665.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].end |
14667.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].text |
有確認是不是正常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].start |
14667.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].end |
14669.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].text |
這個男子當場也吸了一口以示安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].start |
14670.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].end |
14672.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].text |
結果這個女子吸了一口之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].start |
14672.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].end |
14674.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].text |
在酒精毒品這個成分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].start |
14674.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].end |
14676.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].text |
雙重加幾次下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].start |
14676.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].end |
14678.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].text |
這個女子馬上就陷入到危機狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].start |
14678.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].end |
14680.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].text |
沒有安全措施被連續性侵三次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].start |
14680.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].end |
14682.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].text |
那下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].start |
14682.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].end |
14684.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].text |
鞏受你吸食進階版的喪屍毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].start |
14684.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].end |
14686.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].text |
趁機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].start |
14687.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].end |
14689.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].text |
昏迷 輪爆 兩個人遭起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].start |
14689.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].end |
14691.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].text |
在新北厚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].start |
14692.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].end |
14694.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].text |
張 約一名未曾遇上女 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].start |
14694.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].end |
14696.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].text |
在車上將含有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].start |
14696.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].end |
14698.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].text |
這個一瓶帕茲的成分的電子菸彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].start |
14698.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].end |
14700.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].text |
交給一名女子吸食 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].start |
14700.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].end |
14702.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].text |
吸食之後就失去意識 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].start |
14702.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].end |
14704.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].text |
兩人輪流在車內進行性交 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].start |
14704.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].end |
14706.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].text |
第四案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].start |
14708.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].end |
14710.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].text |
喪屍菸彈輪流性侵工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].start |
14710.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].end |
14712.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].text |
惡染毒害國中少女拍性影像 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].start |
14715.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].end |
14717.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].text |
這個內容 我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].start |
14717.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].end |
14719.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].text |
我再簡單講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].start |
14719.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].end |
14721.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].text |
A染在住戶處 先後兩度邀請未滿16歲的咪咪到場 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].start |
14721.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].end |
14723.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].text |
A染心懷不軌提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].start |
14723.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].end |
14725.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].text |
俗稱的喪屍菸彈的電子菸給 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].start |
14725.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].end |
14727.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].text |
美女在吸食後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].start |
14727.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].end |
14729.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].text |
A染要效發作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].start |
14729.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].end |
14731.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].text |
導致中心神經受損 整個人陷入昏迷 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].start |
14731.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].end |
14733.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].text |
恍惚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].start |
14733.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].end |
14735.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].text |
然後肌肉不自主的抽動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].start |
14735.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].end |
14737.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].text |
最後昏迷再闖 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].start |
14737.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].end |
14739.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].text |
A染又再度 約一名也到桃園 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].start |
14739.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].end |
14741.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].text |
另外的主居所 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].start |
14741.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].end |
14743.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].text |
然後故計重施提供喪屍菸彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].start |
14743.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].end |
14745.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].text |
即便咪咪裡曾口頭拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].start |
14745.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].end |
14747.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].text |
A染還是趁這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].start |
14747.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].end |
14749.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].text |
要效發作 意識模糊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].start |
14749.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].end |
14751.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].text |
就強行猥褻 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].start |
14751.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].end |
14753.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].text |
我為什麼要講這四個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].start |
14753.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].end |
14755.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].text |
全部通通是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].start |
14755.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].end |
14757.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].text |
用電子菸喪屍菸彈來進行犯案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].start |
14759.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].end |
14761.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].text |
哪有成員 衛生員的女性都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].start |
14761.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].end |
14763.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].text |
甚至有的警覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].start |
14763.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].end |
14765.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].text |
到最後被騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].start |
14764.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].end |
14768.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].text |
然後都在非自願的情況下被侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].start |
14768.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].end |
14770.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].text |
現在這個電子菸加 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].start |
14772.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].end |
14774.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].text |
上屍菸彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].start |
14774.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].end |
14776.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].text |
在街頭上又可能隨時害人家的生命 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].start |
14776.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].end |
14778.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].start |
14778.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].end |
14780.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].text |
列入這些心存不軌的人的手上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].start |
14780.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].end |
14782.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].text |
也會變成摧毀人一生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].start |
14782.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].end |
14784.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].text |
這樣的一個毒氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].start |
14784.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].end |
14786.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].text |
而且台灣已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].start |
14786.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].end |
14788.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].text |
嚴禁者東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].start |
14788.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].end |
14790.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].text |
我助理今天在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].start |
14790.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].end |
14792.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].text |
苦果上隨便說一說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].start |
14792.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].end |
14794.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].text |
找到這種購買的網頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].start |
14794.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].end |
14796.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].text |
到今天這個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].start |
14796.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].end |
14798.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].text |
還存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].start |
14799.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].end |
14801.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].text |
請次長 各位長官看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].start |
14802.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].end |
14804.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].text |
當你的親戚 當你的子女 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].start |
14805.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].end |
14807.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].text |
各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].start |
14807.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].end |
14809.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].text |
做台灣人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].start |
14810.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].end |
14812.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].text |
一直在這樣的一個環境下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].start |
14813.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].end |
14815.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].text |
你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].start |
14816.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].end |
14818.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].text |
這會造成什麼樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].start |
14819.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].end |
14821.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].text |
一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].start |
14821.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].end |
14823.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].text |
令人沒有辦法期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].start |
14823.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].end |
14825.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].text |
有更有希望的一個青少年的未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].start |
14828.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].end |
14830.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].text |
我這個不用聽了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].start |
14830.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].end |
14832.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].text |
苦果第一頁就跳出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].start |
14832.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].end |
14834.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].text |
點進去和你講LINE |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].start |
14834.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].end |
14836.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].text |
因為這個是國會直播嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].start |
14836.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].end |
14838.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].text |
所以這些資料會被遮蔽掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].start |
14838.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].end |
14840.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].text |
我們會不會提供給次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].start |
14840.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].end |
14842.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].text |
還有數碼部請證書 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].start |
14843.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].end |
14845.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].text |
現在還在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].start |
14845.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].end |
14847.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].text |
而且我記得像是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].start |
14848.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].end |
14850.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].text |
好像前兩天不曉得什麼狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].start |
14850.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].end |
14852.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].text |
有被下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].start |
14851.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].end |
14853.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].text |
然後不到一天兩天他又上來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].start |
14855.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].end |
14857.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].text |
所以我剛剛在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].start |
14857.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].end |
14859.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].text |
你們要處理這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].start |
14859.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].end |
14861.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].text |
這整個這個系統的開花 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].start |
14861.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].end |
14863.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].text |
進入試運作期 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].start |
14864.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].end |
14866.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].text |
之前在委會講是八月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].start |
14866.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].end |
14868.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].text |
現在變成九月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].start |
14868.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].end |
14870.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].text |
然後要建置完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].start |
14870.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].end |
14872.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].text |
開始正式的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].start |
14872.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].end |
14874.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].text |
一個處理的時候還要等到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].start |
14874.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].end |
14876.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].text |
等到明年的九月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].start |
14881.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].end |
14883.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].text |
結果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].start |
14883.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].end |
14885.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].text |
就是看不到希望了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].start |
14885.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].end |
14887.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].start |
14887.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].end |
14889.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].text |
未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].start |
14889.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].end |
14891.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].text |
未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].start |
14891.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].end |
14893.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].text |
未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].start |
14893.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].end |
14895.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].text |
未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].start |
14895.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].end |
14897.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].text |
未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].start |
14897.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].end |
14899.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].text |
未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].start |
14899.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].end |
14901.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].text |
未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].start |
14901.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].end |
14903.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].text |
未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].start |
14903.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].end |
14905.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].text |
未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].start |
14905.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].end |
14907.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].text |
未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].start |
14907.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].end |
14909.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].text |
未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].start |
14909.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].end |
14911.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].text |
未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].start |
14911.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].end |
14913.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].text |
未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].start |
14913.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].end |
14915.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].text |
未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].start |
14895.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].end |
14897.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].text |
一直讓有心人能夠輕易取得到這些東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].start |
14897.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].end |
14899.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].text |
作為毒品的載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].start |
14899.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].end |
14901.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].text |
你這個到底要怎麼防患 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].start |
14902.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].end |
14904.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].text |
這類的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].start |
14905.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].end |
14907.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].text |
你們要怎麼防患 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].start |
14906.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].end |
14908.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].text |
當然不是只有衛幼部啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].start |
14909.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].end |
14911.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].text |
NCC 速發部 全政署 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].start |
14911.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].end |
14913.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].text |
等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].start |
14913.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].end |
14915.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].text |
所有單位都要動起來嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].start |
14915.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].end |
14917.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].text |
那自然可以先簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].start |
14918.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].end |
14920.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].start |
14920.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].end |
14922.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].text |
陳虎剛剛委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].start |
14922.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].end |
14924.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].text |
這個真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].start |
14924.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].end |
14926.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].text |
這種上次煙誕造成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].start |
14926.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].end |
14928.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].text |
這個社會的危害 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].start |
14928.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].end |
14930.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].text |
那我們這裡面其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].start |
14930.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].end |
14932.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].text |
我們有一個跨部會的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].start |
14932.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].end |
14934.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].text |
就是陳虎委員剛剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].start |
14934.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].end |
14936.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].text |
他有司法機關海關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].start |
14936.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].end |
14938.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].text |
速發部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].start |
14938.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].end |
14940.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].text |
那這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].start |
14939.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].end |
14941.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].text |
就衛福部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].start |
14941.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].end |
14943.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].text |
我們主要大概會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].start |
14943.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].end |
14945.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].text |
我們會從源頭的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].start |
14945.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].end |
14947.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].text |
盡量來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].start |
14947.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].end |
14949.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].text |
我們必須來減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].start |
14949.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].end |
14951.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].text |
違法產品的流通跟使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].start |
14951.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].end |
14953.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].text |
那這邊我是不是也請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].start |
14953.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].end |
14955.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].text |
這一個國建署這邊再做一個相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].start |
14955.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].end |
14957.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].text |
請說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].start |
14957.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].end |
14959.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].text |
我要講說這個你不要主動巡查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].start |
14959.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].end |
14961.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].text |
你們什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].start |
14961.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].end |
14963.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].text |
什麼時候可以實時進行監控 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].start |
14963.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].end |
14965.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].text |
與防毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].start |
14965.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].end |
14967.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].text |
還是現在都還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].start |
14968.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].end |
14970.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].start |
14970.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].end |
14972.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].text |
目前在做這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].start |
14972.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].end |
14974.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].text |
相關電子煙防治的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].start |
14974.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].end |
14976.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].text |
確實陳虎委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].start |
14976.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].end |
14978.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].text |
關心的部分我們目前跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].start |
14978.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].end |
14980.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].text |
速發部還有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].start |
14980.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].end |
14982.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].text |
相關的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].start |
14982.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].end |
14984.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].text |
單位已經在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].start |
14984.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].end |
14986.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].text |
相關的防查那速發部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].start |
14986.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].end |
14988.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].text |
有啟動AI巡查的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].start |
14988.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].end |
14990.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].text |
在協助找到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].start |
14990.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].end |
14992.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].text |
這個相關的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].start |
14992.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].end |
14994.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].text |
那你現在在幫速發部答覆嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].start |
14994.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].end |
14996.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].text |
那你可以一併答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].start |
14996.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].end |
14998.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].text |
速發部在8月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].start |
14998.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].end |
15000.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].text |
一直到今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].start |
15000.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].end |
15002.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].text |
黃紙下架類似這樣的產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].start |
15002.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].end |
15004.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].text |
有幾件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].start |
15008.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].end |
15010.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].text |
我跟你講我們從678 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].start |
15010.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].end |
15012.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].text |
是國建署要幫他回答的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].start |
15012.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].end |
15014.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].text |
那就請國建署持續幫他回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].start |
15015.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].end |
15017.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].text |
我想報告以後到8月3號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].start |
15017.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].end |
15019.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].text |
今天26號嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].start |
15019.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].end |
15021.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].text |
黃紙下架這樣的案件有幾件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].start |
15023.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].end |
15025.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].text |
為什麼這個已經下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].start |
15025.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].end |
15027.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].text |
然後馬上起死回生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].start |
15027.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].end |
15029.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].text |
這你們有掌握到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].start |
15029.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].end |
15031.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].text |
以這一件來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].start |
15031.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].end |
15033.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].text |
速發部只要接受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].start |
15033.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].end |
15035.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].text |
相關的違法的網域 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].start |
15035.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].end |
15037.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].text |
或是網頁一定是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].start |
15037.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].end |
15039.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].text |
會立即做下架的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].start |
15039.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].end |
15041.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].text |
統計數字可能我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].start |
15041.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].end |
15043.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].text |
可能要還要再 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].start |
15043.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].end |
15045.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].text |
再統計之後才會跟委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].start |
15045.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].end |
15047.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].text |
8月以後到現在沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].start |
15047.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].end |
15049.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].text |
那7月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].start |
15049.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].end |
15051.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].text |
我們要再統計才好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].start |
15051.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].end |
15053.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].text |
因為我們是在6、7月就開始討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].start |
15053.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].end |
15055.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].text |
一頭彌尺對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].start |
15055.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].end |
15057.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].text |
電子煙跟一頭彌尺 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].start |
15057.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].end |
15059.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].text |
就是深度的綁在一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].start |
15059.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].end |
15061.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].text |
這個已經是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].start |
15061.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].end |
15063.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].text |
現在進行式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].start |
15063.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].end |
15065.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].text |
那你們現在看到這個東西很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].start |
15065.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].end |
15067.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].text |
這個有被下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].start |
15067.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].end |
15069.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].text |
然後再跑上來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].start |
15069.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].end |
15071.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].text |
這個什麼狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].start |
15071.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].end |
15073.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].text |
能不能導入我一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].start |
15073.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].end |
15075.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].text |
像這樣的樣態是什麼狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].start |
15075.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].end |
15077.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].text |
那你們怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].start |
15078.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].end |
15080.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].text |
他連QR code都還留著 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].start |
15084.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].end |
15086.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].text |
你們要不要回答我幾件沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].start |
15086.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].end |
15088.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].text |
不勉強 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].start |
15088.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].end |
15090.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].text |
他已經被下架然後又馬上跑出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].start |
15090.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].end |
15092.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].text |
這什麼狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].start |
15092.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].end |
15094.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].text |
可以怎麼應應 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].start |
15098.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].end |
15100.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].text |
委員只要有任何發現這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].start |
15100.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].end |
15102.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].text |
有任何網域有需要下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].start |
15102.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].end |
15104.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].text |
我們會立即做下架的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].start |
15104.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].end |
15106.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].text |
那其實我們也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].start |
15106.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].end |
15108.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].text |
持續的這個做相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].start |
15108.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].end |
15110.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].text |
這個收集或下架程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].start |
15110.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].end |
15112.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].text |
不是我只是講我說用這個實例來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].start |
15112.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].end |
15114.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].text |
講給你聽嘛這個之前被下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].start |
15114.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].end |
15116.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].text |
不到一天兩天就又跑上來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].start |
15117.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].end |
15119.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].text |
這個你們到底怎麼應應處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].start |
15119.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].end |
15121.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].text |
你就簡單跟委員做個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].start |
15123.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].end |
15125.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].text |
還是你不曉得這樣的一個樣態 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].start |
15125.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].end |
15127.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].text |
其實我們只要有碰到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].start |
15127.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].end |
15129.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].text |
只要違法我就做下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].start |
15129.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].end |
15131.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].text |
但是這個數字我可能沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].start |
15131.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].end |
15133.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].text |
我可能現在沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].start |
15133.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].end |
15135.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].text |
我現在已經沒有問你數字了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].start |
15135.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].end |
15137.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].text |
對不對 我是想說現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].start |
15137.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].end |
15139.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].text |
這樣的一個樣態 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].start |
15139.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].end |
15141.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].text |
他被下架不到一兩天又跑上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].start |
15141.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].end |
15143.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].text |
是什麼狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].start |
15143.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].end |
15145.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].text |
你們的黃賭機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].start |
15145.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].end |
15147.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].text |
是不是有些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].start |
15147.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].end |
15149.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].text |
需要再去做調整修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].start |
15150.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].end |
15152.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].text |
那如果就對照剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].start |
15152.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].end |
15154.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].text |
為什麼打我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].start |
15153.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].end |
15155.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].text |
那個機制是一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].start |
15157.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].end |
15159.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].text |
委員我前面那個我先要補正 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].start |
15159.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].end |
15161.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].text |
不可能一年我回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].start |
15161.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].end |
15163.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].text |
除非你可以補正我也要相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].start |
15163.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].end |
15165.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].text |
但是你可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].start |
15165.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].end |
15167.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].text |
補正不用一年不久 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].start |
15169.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].end |
15171.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].text |
我們半天的時間可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].start |
15171.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].end |
15173.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].start |
15173.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].end |
15175.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].text |
主席做情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].start |
15175.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].end |
15177.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].text |
所有的官員也做情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].start |
15177.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].end |
15179.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].text |
我給委員一個交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].start |
15179.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].end |
15181.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].start |
15181.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].end |
15183.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].text |
你如果半天不理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].start |
15183.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].end |
15185.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].text |
又快點不起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].start |
15185.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].end |
15187.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].text |
還跟我說關鍵字還要去搜尋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].start |
15186.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].end |
15188.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].text |
還要去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].start |
15190.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].end |
15192.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].text |
處理不起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].start |
15192.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].end |
15194.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].start |
15193.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].end |
15195.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].start |
15195.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].end |
15197.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].start |
15197.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].end |
15199.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].start |
15199.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].end |
15201.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].start |
15201.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].end |
15203.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].start |
15203.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].end |
15205.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].start |
15205.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].end |
15207.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].start |
15207.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].end |
15209.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].start |
15209.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].end |
15211.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].start |
15211.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].end |
15213.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].start |
15213.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].end |
15215.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].start |
15215.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].end |
15217.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].start |
15217.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].end |
15219.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].start |
15219.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].end |
15221.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].start |
15207.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].end |
15209.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].text |
所以補一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].start |
15209.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].end |
15211.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].text |
對自己補正 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].start |
15211.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].end |
15213.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].start |
15212.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].end |
15214.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].text |
這點先給我回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].start |
15214.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].end |
15216.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].text |
誰要下架沒有時間再做出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].start |
15216.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].end |
15218.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].start |
15220.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].end |
15222.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].start |
15222.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].end |
15224.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].text |
他其實就是會一直在換網域 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].start |
15224.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].end |
15226.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].text |
但是我們只要收到相關違法網域 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].start |
15226.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].end |
15228.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].text |
我們就是兩個小時內會做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].start |
15228.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].end |
15230.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].text |
相關的下架程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].start |
15230.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].end |
15232.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].text |
兩個小時嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].start |
15232.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].end |
15234.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].text |
這個從昨天到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].start |
15234.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].end |
15236.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].text |
但是這個可能要有相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].start |
15236.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].end |
15238.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].text |
確定他做違法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].start |
15238.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].end |
15240.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].text |
我們會做立即 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].start |
15240.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].end |
15242.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].text |
做下架的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].start |
15242.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].end |
15244.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].text |
這個就是違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].start |
15244.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].end |
15246.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].text |
下面這兩支 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].start |
15246.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].end |
15248.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].text |
一個粉紅色的一個紫色的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].start |
15248.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].end |
15250.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].text |
他就是違法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].start |
15250.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].end |
15252.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].text |
很明顯的標的物 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].start |
15252.48 |
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15254.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].text |
這就是違法的標的物 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].start |
15254.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].end |
15256.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].text |
不得在台灣的網狀上看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].start |
15259.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].end |
15261.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].start |
15260.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].end |
15264.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].text |
主要如果有主管機關發現他是違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].start |
15264.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].end |
15266.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].text |
我們就做兩個小時內下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].start |
15266.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].end |
15268.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].text |
這樣好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].start |
15268.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].end |
15270.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].text |
你把這個大致上我們就講三個月就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].start |
15270.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].end |
15272.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].text |
六七八 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].start |
15272.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].end |
15274.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].text |
也不到三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].start |
15274.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].end |
15276.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].text |
我們已經有黃土的下架的件數 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].start |
15276.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].end |
15278.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].text |
是不是揮霍給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].start |
15278.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].end |
15280.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].text |
好不好揮霍給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].start |
15280.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].end |
15282.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].text |
像這一個已經認定是違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].start |
15282.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].end |
15284.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].text |
也要求他下架的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].start |
15284.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].end |
15286.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].text |
下架之後又跑上來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].start |
15286.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].end |
15288.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].text |
不到多久跑上來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].start |
15288.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].end |
15290.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].text |
同屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].start |
15290.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].end |
15292.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].text |
這樣的一個廣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].start |
15293.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].end |
15295.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].text |
那你們怎麼處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].start |
15295.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].end |
15297.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].start |
15297.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].end |
15299.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].text |
多久時間掌握到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].start |
15299.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].end |
15301.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].text |
同樣違法的這個廣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].start |
15301.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].end |
15303.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].text |
你們又採取什麼措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].start |
15303.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].end |
15305.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].text |
當然一定是要求他下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].start |
15305.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].end |
15307.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].text |
那後續的法律上的罰則你們又是怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].start |
15308.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].end |
15310.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].text |
相關的這些處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].start |
15310.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].end |
15312.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].text |
報告也給委員做參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].start |
15312.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].end |
15314.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].text |
所以我是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].start |
15314.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].end |
15316.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].text |
你們一定要實時進行監控跟黃土 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].start |
15316.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].end |
15318.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].text |
那這個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].start |
15319.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].end |
15321.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].text |
應該你們也有設定主動的巡查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].start |
15321.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].end |
15323.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].text |
應該都有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].start |
15324.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].end |
15326.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].start |
15327.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].end |
15329.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].text |
這位是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].start |
15329.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].end |
15331.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].text |
我們素材署會補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].start |
15331.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].end |
15333.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].start |
15334.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].end |
15336.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].start |
15336.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].end |
15340.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].text |
市長我們其實有一個防災的這個聯防平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].start |
15340.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].end |
15342.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].text |
所以在這裡面大概會有四大 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].start |
15342.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].end |
15344.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].text |
網路廣告平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].start |
15344.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].end |
15346.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].text |
然後在這個成員裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].start |
15346.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].end |
15348.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].text |
那我們大概定期的會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].start |
15348.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].end |
15350.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].text |
針對各部會有需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].start |
15350.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].end |
15352.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].text |
這個部分要求網路廣告平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].start |
15352.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].end |
15354.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].text |
來做一個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].start |
15354.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].end |
15356.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].text |
所以呢這個部分的話大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].start |
15356.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].end |
15358.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].text |
衛福部這邊有提出有需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].start |
15358.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].end |
15360.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].text |
有這樣子的一個關鍵字巡查的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].start |
15360.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].end |
15362.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].text |
我們其實事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].start |
15362.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].end |
15364.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].text |
也有就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].start |
15364.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].end |
15366.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].text |
我們有巡查到我們也是會定期的提供給這個衛福部做確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].start |
15366.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].end |
15368.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].text |
一旦確認它是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].start |
15368.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].end |
15370.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].text |
就會通知我們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].start |
15370.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].end |
15372.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].text |
資源室主管的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].start |
15372.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].end |
15374.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].text |
在兩個小時之內去做一個下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].start |
15376.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].end |
15378.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].text |
沒有你現在答案是跟我們第一題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].start |
15380.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].end |
15382.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].text |
你現在答案我是第一題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].start |
15382.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].end |
15384.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].text |
我現在就講第二題了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].start |
15385.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].end |
15387.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].text |
對就是我們提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].start |
15387.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].end |
15389.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].text |
有沒有可以協助去做網路的巡查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].start |
15389.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].end |
15391.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].text |
的這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].start |
15391.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].end |
15393.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].text |
一樣兩件事情都是要網路上的巡查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].start |
15393.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].end |
15395.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].text |
沒有錯對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].start |
15395.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].end |
15397.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].text |
像這種廣告基本上它已經違法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].start |
15397.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].end |
15399.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].text |
它被下架了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].start |
15399.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].end |
15401.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].text |
怎麼馬上又不過一天兩天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].start |
15401.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].end |
15403.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].text |
就跑上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].start |
15403.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].end |
15405.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].text |
那你們怎麼樣的一個處理的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].start |
15405.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].end |
15407.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].text |
跟我們報告其實剛剛那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].start |
15407.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].end |
15409.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].text |
資源室已經有提到沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].start |
15409.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].end |
15411.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].text |
因為其實這些就跟詐騙一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].start |
15411.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].end |
15413.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].text |
他們常常會在很多個的網域 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].start |
15413.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].end |
15415.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].text |
然後一直不斷的去把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].start |
15415.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].end |
15417.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].text |
重新的去再上架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].start |
15417.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].end |
15419.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].text |
那一旦有上架以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].start |
15419.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].end |
15421.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].text |
有人發現主管機關只要是確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].start |
15421.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].end |
15423.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].text |
因為這個部分的話畢竟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].start |
15423.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].end |
15425.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].text |
它還是需要去做行政處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].start |
15425.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].end |
15427.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].text |
才能夠去把它下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].start |
15427.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].end |
15429.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].text |
所以其實衛福部一旦確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].start |
15429.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].end |
15431.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].text |
我們就會立刻去做下架的動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].start |
15431.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].end |
15433.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].text |
衛福部要去做確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].start |
15433.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].end |
15435.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].text |
對它必須確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].start |
15435.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].end |
15437.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].text |
衛福部是在最前端去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].start |
15437.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].end |
15439.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].text |
這個巡查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].start |
15439.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].end |
15441.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].text |
巡查我們也有協助在巡查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].start |
15441.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].end |
15443.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].text |
可是巡查到了以後我們就會提供給衛福部說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].start |
15443.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].end |
15445.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].text |
確認這個部分是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].start |
15445.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].end |
15447.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].text |
因為畢竟我們在網路上面的巡查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].start |
15447.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].end |
15449.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].text |
我們沒有辦法去做最終的確認說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].start |
15449.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].end |
15451.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].text |
它是不是就是一個電子煙的廣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].start |
15451.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].end |
15453.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].start |
15453.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].end |
15455.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].text |
這一個不是直言了當就很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].start |
15455.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].end |
15457.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].text |
不然這是什麼東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].start |
15457.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].end |
15459.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].text |
因為這個部分還是要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].start |
15459.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].end |
15461.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].text |
一次性有油就有電 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].start |
15461.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].end |
15463.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].text |
油量透明 餘量一目了然 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].start |
15463.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].end |
15465.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].text |
部委員那個政策是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].start |
15465.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].end |
15467.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].text |
他們現在剛才事發部就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].start |
15467.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].end |
15469.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].text |
應該在那裡查對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].start |
15469.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].end |
15471.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].text |
查完他們現在不是只有衛福部而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].start |
15471.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].end |
15473.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].text |
各個單位 以這個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].start |
15473.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].end |
15475.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].text |
衛福部主責 我們這邊一旦收到之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].start |
15475.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].end |
15477.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].text |
部長他下達命令了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].start |
15478.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].end |
15480.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].text |
這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].start |
15479.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].end |
15481.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].text |
寧可錯殺也不能錯放 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].start |
15481.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].end |
15483.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].text |
周越來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].start |
15483.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].end |
15485.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].text |
我也有先認過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].start |
15485.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].end |
15487.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].text |
有計案確實比較久 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].start |
15487.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].end |
15489.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].text |
但是從中朝2高位以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].start |
15489.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].end |
15491.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].text |
我們莊市現在註實了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].start |
15491.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].end |
15493.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].text |
數字上已經大幅下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].start |
15493.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].end |
15495.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].text |
我們現在就是說反正如果有這個情況的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].start |
15495.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].end |
15497.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].text |
馬上就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].start |
15497.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].end |
15499.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].text |
你剛才說行政處分我們這邊馬上就處理掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].start |
15499.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].end |
15501.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].text |
好啦沒關係我不好意思喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].start |
15501.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].end |
15503.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].text |
可能各位剛剛應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].start |
15503.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].end |
15505.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].text |
沒有在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].start |
15505.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].end |
15507.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].text |
你們可能是故意把我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].start |
15507.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].end |
15509.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].text |
牽到旁邊去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].start |
15509.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].end |
15511.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].text |
我只是講說這個已經被你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].start |
15511.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].end |
15513.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].text |
下架了 都到藝人廳要跑上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].start |
15513.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].end |
15515.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].text |
你們怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].start |
15515.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].end |
15517.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].text |
後續的處理啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].start |
15519.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].end |
15521.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].text |
這個明顯就是威華的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].start |
15522.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].end |
15524.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].text |
他有法律上相關的法者你們必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].start |
15524.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].end |
15526.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].text |
這個沒有叫做錯殺的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].start |
15526.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].end |
15528.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].text |
我這一題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].start |
15528.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].end |
15530.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].text |
就是沒有錯殺的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].start |
15530.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].end |
15532.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].text |
我這一題就是一個破題的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].start |
15532.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].end |
15534.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].text |
你們到底怎麼處理這個已經被你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].start |
15534.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].end |
15536.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].text |
下架然後又馬上跑上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].start |
15536.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].end |
15538.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].text |
然後跑到現在有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].start |
15538.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].end |
15540.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].text |
剛剛不管是蘇澳部或其他單位打我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].start |
15540.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].end |
15542.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].text |
只要有人在巡返上然後就會通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].start |
15542.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].end |
15544.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].text |
你衛福部然後去做怎樣的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].start |
15544.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].end |
15546.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].text |
應用對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].start |
15546.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].end |
15548.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].text |
但是你們一天多了啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].start |
15548.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].end |
15550.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].text |
你們就是通通沒有人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].start |
15552.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].end |
15554.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].text |
你們的人就是你們的人就是我啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].start |
15555.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].end |
15557.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].text |
我現在提問給你們啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].start |
15559.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].end |
15561.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].text |
你們怎麼處理啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].start |
15561.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].end |
15563.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].text |
我們現在就實地操作啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].start |
15564.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].end |
15566.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].text |
你為什麼不答我這個問題咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].start |
15566.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].end |
15568.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].text |
剛剛什麼起見起見我就說會不會再處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].start |
15568.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].end |
15570.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].text |
現在就針對這一題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].start |
15570.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].end |
15572.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].text |
我就跟你講說像他已經被你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].start |
15572.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].end |
15574.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].text |
下架了你們怎麼做處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].start |
15574.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].end |
15576.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].text |
然後現在又跑上來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].start |
15575.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].end |
15577.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].text |
已經一天多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].start |
15580.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].end |
15582.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].text |
那裡面怎麼會這麼單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].start |
15582.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].end |
15584.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].text |
通通沒有人主張在提供給你衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].start |
15584.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].end |
15586.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].text |
最後要怎麼做立即的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].start |
15590.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].end |
15592.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].text |
你知不知道這一天就多了多少情緒兩邊都看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].start |
15594.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].end |
15596.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].text |
你知不知道這一天就多了他的QR Code就多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].start |
15596.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].end |
15598.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].text |
讓對手做相關的這些連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].start |
15600.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].end |
15602.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].text |
我現在公司裡面的音樂速度是有問題的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].start |
15602.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].end |
15604.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].text |
你跟我說有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].start |
15604.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].end |
15606.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].text |
對啊有人就沒有人提供給你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].start |
15606.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].end |
15608.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].text |
我現在提供給你啊那他多久可以下架啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].start |
15608.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].end |
15610.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].text |
如果類似的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].start |
15610.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].end |
15612.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].text |
像這個已經被下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].start |
15612.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].end |
15614.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].text |
然後又馬上又上架 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].start |
15614.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].end |
15616.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].text |
然後已經過了一天24小時以上了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].start |
15616.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].end |
15618.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].text |
還到現在還沒有下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].start |
15618.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].end |
15620.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].text |
那整個你們的機制是有問題的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].start |
15623.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].end |
15625.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].text |
好啦委員這個保護是否允許我 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].start |
15625.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].end |
15627.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].text |
我直接結束後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].start |
15627.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].end |
15629.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].text |
我直接去處理處發部部長這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].start |
15629.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].end |
15631.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].text |
沒有啦我還沒好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].start |
15631.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].end |
15633.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].text |
我都沒好我不是直接問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].start |
15633.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].end |
15635.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].text |
因為我問你沒好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].start |
15635.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].end |
15637.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].text |
現在醫託名詞又多一個義病怕死 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].start |
15637.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].end |
15639.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].text |
義病怕死6月在宜蘭 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].start |
15639.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].end |
15641.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].text |
被迫到這個制毒的工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].start |
15641.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].end |
15643.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].text |
這兩位是同屬於家族 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].start |
15643.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].end |
15645.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].text |
這是已經很嚴重的警訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].start |
15645.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].end |
15647.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].text |
這種毒品的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].start |
15647.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].end |
15649.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].text |
跟電子煙深度板定的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].start |
15649.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].end |
15651.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].text |
對我們青少年的危害 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].start |
15654.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].end |
15656.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].text |
當然啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].start |
15656.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].end |
15658.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].text |
這個很難用言語去形容 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].start |
15658.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].end |
15660.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].text |
那我剛剛開場白講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].start |
15660.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].end |
15664.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].text |
國健署的調查公佈114年青少年吸煙 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].start |
15664.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].end |
15666.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].text |
行為調查結果他是講吸煙 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].start |
15666.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].end |
15668.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].text |
然後這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].start |
15668.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].end |
15670.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].text |
國中及高中生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].start |
15671.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].end |
15673.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].text |
電子煙的水溫頻率分點2.1%到5.1% |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].start |
15673.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].end |
15675.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].text |
我們都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].start |
15675.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].end |
15677.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].text |
是啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].start |
15677.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].end |
15679.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].text |
是幾倍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].start |
15679.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].end |
15681.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].text |
但你相對不是4萬名青少年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].start |
15681.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].end |
15683.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].text |
是幾萬名然後他又拿來當成 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].start |
15683.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].end |
15685.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].text |
他的性侵的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].start |
15685.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].end |
15687.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].text |
犯罪的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].start |
15689.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].end |
15691.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].text |
現在開車回家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].start |
15691.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].end |
15693.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].text |
青少年的這個女性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].start |
15693.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].end |
15695.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].text |
也因為如果吸食電子煙 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].start |
15695.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].end |
15697.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].text |
他又更加危險 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].start |
15699.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].end |
15701.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].text |
青少年的一個成長過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].start |
15701.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].end |
15703.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].text |
就因為電子煙 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].start |
15703.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].end |
15705.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].text |
我們要去以內去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].start |
15705.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].end |
15707.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].text |
這樣的一個毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].start |
15707.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].end |
15709.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].text |
異多名死還有這個異病怕死等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].start |
15710.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].end |
15712.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].text |
所以你們的所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].start |
15712.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].end |
15714.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].text |
我們在委員會也不一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].start |
15714.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].end |
15716.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].text |
一直拜吃的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].start |
15717.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].end |
15719.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].text |
專案的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].start |
15719.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].end |
15721.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].text |
我收這麼多法就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].start |
15721.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].end |
15723.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].text |
發射完你們的所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].start |
15723.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].end |
15725.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].text |
辦這款病毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].start |
15725.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].end |
15727.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].text |
對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].start |
15727.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].end |
15729.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].text |
時間已經到了對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].start |
15729.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].end |
15731.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].text |
謝謝召委給我多一些時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].start |
15731.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].end |
15733.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].text |
市長是不是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].start |
15733.78 |
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15735.78 |
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你做一個整合啦 |
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今天我只有三個題目而已 |
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這三個題目是不是可以 |
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更具體的然後你們應該怎麼做 |
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怎麼樣的一個期限內 |
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可以達到什麼樣的一個 |
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一個進展然後給委員會 |
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所有委員做參考 |
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不然我們社外社會再追啦 |
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感謝謝謝 |
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謝謝劉靖國委員發言 |
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我想威爾布布剛剛履次講 |
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你可能要真的招 |
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書發部因為這件事情我覺得 |
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剛剛劉委員提的這個東西 |
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非常的重要 |
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否則的話下了之後又再上 |
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那你們有沒有主動巡查 |
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那原來前面的巡查都是 |
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沒有意義的 |
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最後就還是沒有解決問題 |
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履次要一個月內可以嗎 |
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會議詢答全部結束 |
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現在做以下決議 |
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一 說明及詢答完畢 |
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二 委員質詢及答 |
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請補充資料者 |
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請相關機關於兩周內 |
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以書面答覆 |
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委員令要求期限者從其所定 |
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第三 委員圖權及審發會 |
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蘇貞權 傅坤琪 |
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王玉敏 蔡其昌 楊耀 林淑芬 |
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徐新宜 徐宇哲 |
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吳宗憲 沈柏楊 張雅玲 |
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所提書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報 |
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新青漢犯罪防治法 |
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部分條文修正草案等十案及 |
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兒童及少年性剝削 |
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防治條例 |
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部分條文修正草案等十七案 |
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尚未審查完畢 |
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另擇期繼續審查 |
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本次會議到此結束 現在散會 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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