| IVOD_ID |
17680 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17680 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-5-22,15-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化、內政委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
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教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化、內政委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-19T08:35:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-19T12:36:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
04:00:15 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
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| 會議時間 |
2026-08-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化、內政委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查
(一) 委員黃仁等17人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(二) 委員高金素梅等24人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(三) 委員伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe等17人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(四) 委員林倩綺等16人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(五) 委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(六) 委員伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe等16人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
【僅進行詢答】） |
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林委員倩綺 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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陳委員培瑜 |
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陳委員培瑜 |
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陳委員培瑜 |
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1466.79 |
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1469.09 |
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報告委員會 出席委員 |
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1469.67 |
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1471.87 |
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已足法定人數 現在開會 |
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1472.41 |
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1476.27 |
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本次會議的議程是審查委員黃仁等17人 |
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1476.27 |
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1480.09 |
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擬具原住民族學校法草案等6案 |
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1480.09 |
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1482.07 |
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於提案說明及報告後 |
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1482.07 |
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1484.07 |
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緊進行詢答 |
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1484.07 |
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1486.07 |
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首先我們來介紹 |
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1486.43 |
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1488.43 |
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在場的官員 |
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1489.17 |
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1489.81 |
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教育部 |
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1490.57 |
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1494.77 |
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政務次長 張廖萬尖 張廖次長 謝謝 |
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1496.47 |
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1498.47 |
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國簽署 |
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1498.21 |
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1500.21 |
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許立娟副署長 |
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1500.74 |
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1502.74 |
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謝謝 |
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1503.05 |
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1505.65 |
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清發署 陳一聰副署長 |
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1506.6 |
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1508.6 |
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謝謝 |
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1508.32 |
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1510.32 |
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國教院 |
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1509.5 |
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1511.5 |
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郭功斌副院長 |
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1511.88 |
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1513.88 |
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謝謝 |
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1514.07 |
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1516.07 |
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原住民族委員會 |
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1516.17 |
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1518.17 |
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常務副主任委員 杜章梅莊 |
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1520.42 |
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1522.42 |
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謝謝 |
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1523.02 |
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1525.02 |
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其餘列席的機關代表 |
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1525.02 |
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1527.02 |
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請參與名單不再逐一介紹 |
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1527.02 |
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1529.02 |
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並列入公報記錄 |
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1530.8 |
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1532.8 |
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最後就不講了 |
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1534.24 |
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1536.24 |
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繼續進行報告 |
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1536.6 |
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1538.6 |
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現在有請教育部 |
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1538.6 |
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1540.6 |
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張廖萬尖次長報告 |
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1540.6 |
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1542.6 |
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時間是5分鐘 |
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1547.13 |
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1549.13 |
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主席 各位委員女士先生大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
1549.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
1553.13 |
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今日大院教育及文化內政委員會聯席會議 |
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1553.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
1555.13 |
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審查原住民族學校 |
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1557.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
1559.36 |
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發草案 |
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1576.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
1578.09 |
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有關背景說明方面 |
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1578.09 |
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1584.09 |
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第一 依照聯合國原住民族權利宣言及我國憲法徵修條文 |
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1584.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
1588.09 |
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原住民族有權建立及掌管自己教育體系及機構 |
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1588.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
1590.09 |
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那麼依民族意願 |
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1590.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
1592.09 |
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保障原住民族教育權利 |
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1592.09 |
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1596.09 |
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彰顯原住民族自治自主跟自決 |
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1596.09 |
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1598.09 |
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第二 |
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1598.09 |
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1602.09 |
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為足部建立完整的原住民族教育體制 |
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1602.09 |
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1604.09 |
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105年行政院以明確分工 |
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1604.09 |
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1608.09 |
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由本部全面修正原住民族教育法 |
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1608.09 |
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1612.09 |
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並由原民會來研議制定原住民族學校法 |
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1612.09 |
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1616.09 |
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那麼兩部會均以積極推動相關的工作 |
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1616.09 |
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1618.09 |
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並經過多次的協調溝通 |
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1618.09 |
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1626.09 |
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其中原住民族教育法已於108年6月19號完成全條文修正公佈 |
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1628.05 |
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1630.05 |
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第二相關的建議方面 |
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1630.05 |
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1633.05 |
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為了健全原住民族教育體系 |
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1633.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1636.05 |
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本部持續配合原民會的規劃 |
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1636.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1639.05 |
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那麼就法規制度課程 |
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1639.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1641.05 |
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施資培育等面向 |
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1641.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1643.05 |
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共同來推動原住民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1643.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
1646.05 |
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完備原住民族的教育體系 |
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1646.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
1649.05 |
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與原民會攜手促進族群教育的自主性 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
1649.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
1655.05 |
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那麼緊就各委員提出的原住民族學校法草案的版本 |
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1655.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1657.54 |
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就相關的重點說明如下 |
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1657.54 |
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1659.54 |
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一、各委員 |
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1660.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1663.24 |
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各委員版草案所提的立法意旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
1663.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1665.24 |
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本部敬表尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
1665.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1667.24 |
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那包含維護民族尊嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
1667.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1669.24 |
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延續民族命脈 |
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1669.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1671.24 |
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促進原住民族教育多元發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
1671.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1675.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
推動原住民族人才培育與教育自主治理 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
1675.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1677.24 |
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保障原住民族教育自主權 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
1677.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1680.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
受教權以及教育選擇權 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1680.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1685.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
保障原住民族語言之學習與使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
1685.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1690.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
若促進其文化及知識體系之傳承、創新與發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1690.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1693.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
培育及聚集民族文化素養 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
1693.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1697.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
及適應現代社會與未來發展能力之人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1697.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1699.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
促進民族永續發展等 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1699.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1701.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
強調依民主意願 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1702.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1705.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
保障原住民族教育權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1705.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1709.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
由原住民族決定自己的教育、目標及治理方式等 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1709.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1712.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
那麼原住民族主體性為重中之重 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1713.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1713.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
那麼第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1715.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1718.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
我們認為應該由這個原民會來擔任主政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1718.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1721.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
來回應原住民族主體性的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1721.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1723.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
並立事權統一 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1723.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1725.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
那麼部分委員版的草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1725.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1727.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
以本部為主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1727.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1729.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
原民會為主辦機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
1729.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1732.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
唯一原教法第三條及第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
1734.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
1736.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
到第五條的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
1736.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1740.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
民族教育已規範由原住民族主管機關規劃辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
1740.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1744.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
且原住民族學校是以原住民族知識體系為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
1744.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1749.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
依該民族教育哲學與目標實施教育之學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
1749.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1753.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
而原住民族知識體系依規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1753.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1757.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
亦由原民會、會商、教育、科技、文化等主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
1757.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1760.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
共同建構原住民族知識體系中 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1761.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1762.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
中長程計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1762.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
1764.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
那麼依法規權責的歸屬呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
1764.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
1767.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
同時回應各委員草案版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
1767.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
1771.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
推動教育自主、自理之原住民族主體性精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
1771.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
1774.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
以統一由原民會來擔任主政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
1774.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
1776.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
以利完善政策機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
1776.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
1778.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
並有利於未來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
1778.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
1785.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
最後呢原住民族學校法是各界相關相當關注的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
1785.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
1787.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
肯認原住民族主體性精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
1787.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
1791.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
並落實原住民族教育自主、自理 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
1791.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
1794.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
是為本項立法之首要關懷 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
1794.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
1798.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
本部將持續與原民會合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
1798.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
1800.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
共同維護原住民族教育權 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
1800.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
1804.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
完善原住民族教育體系之制度連結與發展條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
1804.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
1807.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
以促進原住民族教育之穩健推展 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
1807.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
1809.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
那麼以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
1809.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
1810.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
進行各位委員不吝指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
1810.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
1811.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
謝謝各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
1812.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
1815.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
好謝謝張廖完間次長的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
1815.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
1818.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
接下來我們有請原住民族委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
1818.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
1820.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
杜張梅莊副主任委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
1820.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
1822.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
時間是五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
1829.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
1832.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
主席各位委員女士先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
1832.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
1838.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
本會今天受邀列席第十一屆第五會期教育文化內政委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
1838.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
1840.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
第一次聯席會議深感榮幸 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
1840.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
1843.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
以下就原住民族教育政策發展的歷程 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
1843.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
1847.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
民族學校設立策略以未來願景分別說明如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
1847.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
1850.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
以十一年重大原住民族教育的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
1850.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
1854.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
本會自一百零二年起推動部落學校設立計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
1854.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
1857.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
於課餘及寒暑假開設 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
1858.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
1860.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
本會進行文化課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
1861.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
1866.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
首度將文化學習系統化為教材與教學模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
1866.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
1868.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
為突破抽離式學習的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
1868.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
1871.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
持續推動學校本位課程計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
1871.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
1875.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
將部落知識融入校園日常課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
1875.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
1879.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
一百一十四懸念度並擴大為全民原教計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
1879.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
1883.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
使傳統智慧逐步融入校園環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
1883.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
1887.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
另外教育部在一百零三年訂定了實驗教育三法 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
1887.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
1890.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
提供民族知識為主體制課程調整法源 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
1890.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
1894.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
本會也在一百零五年訂定補助的要點 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
1894.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
1897.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
規範各校每週至少八節文化課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
1897.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
1902.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
到一百一十四年已經累計補助四十六所學校辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
1903.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
1906.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
整體而言本會推動歷程可分為三個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
1906.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
1912.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
由課外的體驗系統化到正式課程的校本化 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
1912.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
1915.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
到再邁向實驗教育的法制化 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
1915.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
1918.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
第二是設立原住民學校的理想策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
1918.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
1921.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
為兼顧教育公平與財政永續 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
1921.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
1924.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
本會認為推動原住民學校的核心策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
1924.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
1929.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
以既有公立學校轉型公辦民營為主軸 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
1930.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
1935.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
藉此免除興建校舍的巨額經費支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
1935.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
1937.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
並活化既有資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
1937.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
1940.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
使政策推動更增務實且具效力 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
1940.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
1943.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
以高雄市桃園區新中國小圍籬 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
1943.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
1945.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
本會與地方政府合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
1945.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
1948.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
依公立高級中等以下學校委託 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
1948.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
1951.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
私人辦理實驗教育條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
1951.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
1955.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
委託原住民族語言研究發展基金會經營 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
1955.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
1959.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
成功轉型為全台首座原住民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
1959.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
1962.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
應證此模式兼具文化傳承效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
1962.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
1965.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
與可複製可持續制度優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
1966.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
1969.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
再推動的過程會因應具文化素養 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
1969.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
1972.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
及足以能力之實質培育需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
1972.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
1975.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
以確保教育現場能穩定的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
1975.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
1978.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
本會建議透過文化導師協同教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
1978.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
1981.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
與在職真人機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
1982.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
1985.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
與納入文化職能至實質培育的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
1985.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
1988.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
以確保教育現場不自斷層 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
1988.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
1990.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
至於財政資源的配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
1990.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
1992.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
有別於硬體建設支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
1992.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
1996.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
集中於教材研發與課程設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
1996.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
1998.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
以建立可藏 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
1998.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
2000.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
長期維運的治理體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
2000.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
2003.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
一三個是原住民族學校未來的願景 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
2003.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
2005.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
綜合以上前面的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
2005.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
2007.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
未來本會將以心中 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
2008.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2010.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
民族小學之設立經驗為基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
2010.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
2012.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
深化中央與地方合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
2012.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
2015.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
逐步推動一組一民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
2015.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
2018.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
使原住民族均擁有專屬各民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
2018.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
2021.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
並建構幼兒園之高等教育 |
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2021.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
2023.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
廣化之教育體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
2023.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
2027.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
培育兼具文化根基與現代競爭力之新時代人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
2027.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
2031.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
落實原住民族教育之文化永續與教育祖先 |
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2031.8 |
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2033.8 |
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以上報告,敬請各位委員指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
2033.8 |
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2035.8 |
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謝謝 |
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2036.86 |
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2040.86 |
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好,謝謝督章副主委的報告 |
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2040.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2042.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
機關代表報告完畢 |
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2042.86 |
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2044.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
機關書面資料請各位參閱 |
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2044.86 |
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2046.86 |
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並列入公報記錄 |
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2049.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2051.92 |
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在進行詢答以前 |
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2051.92 |
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2053.92 |
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主席這邊做一個說明 |
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2055.91 |
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2057.91 |
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關於原住民族學校法 |
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2057.91 |
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2062.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
我們在8月19號有召開過公聽會 |
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2062.91 |
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2067.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
當時教育部跟原民會也都有做出書面報告 |
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2067.91 |
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2071.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
而且參與發言的學者專家有超過20人 |
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2071.91 |
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2075.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
所以認為立法有它的一個必要性 |
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2075.91 |
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2077.91 |
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有高度共識 |
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2077.91 |
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2081.91 |
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所以今天我們算是這一屆第一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
2081.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2084.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
把原住民族學校法進入審查 |
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2084.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2087.91 |
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今天我們就只安排詢答 |
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2087.91 |
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2091.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
在這裡我們就開始進行詢答 |
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2091.91 |
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2095.91 |
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等一下每一位出席的委員質詢是6分鐘 |
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2095.91 |
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2099.91 |
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獵襲的委員質詢時間是4分鐘 |
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2099.91 |
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2101.91 |
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均不再延長 |
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2101.91 |
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2106.91 |
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發言登記截止的時間是上午的10點30分 |
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2106.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2108.91 |
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委員如果有臨時提案 |
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2108.91 |
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2111.91 |
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請在10點30分以前提出 |
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2111.91 |
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2116.91 |
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並在蔡春筹委員質詢完畢後再行處理 |
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2116.91 |
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2117.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
處理提案時 |
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2117.91 |
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2120.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
如果提案委員及聯署委員均不在場 |
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2120.91 |
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2123.91 |
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原例我們不予處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
2123.91 |
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2128.91 |
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現在我們邀請第一位郭育勤委員進行詢答 |
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2136.66 |
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2138.66 |
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好 謝謝主席 |
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2138.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2140.66 |
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今天有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
2141.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2142.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2143.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2144.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
有請次長 |
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2147.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2148.04 |
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委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
2148.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2149.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
好 次長早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2149.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
我想今天其實我們要討論的是原住民族的學校法 |
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2153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2157.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
那過去其實我們的原住民族的教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2157.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2161.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
其實從過去以前的補充式的教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2161.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
現在已經走向所謂的文化主體性的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
那我們也看到有不少的原住民族的實驗學校正在運作 |
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2170.04 |
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2174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
那我們如果真的希望這個部落成為教育的本體 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
所以更應該要建立一套完整 |
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2176.04 |
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2182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
而且有自主性的讓他可以在這個永續發展的一個教育的體系 |
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2182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2187.04 |
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那這個部分我想請教一下這個教育部這兩個核心的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2187.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
我們的師資的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2193.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
那麼第一我相信現在有很多的老師他有所謂的這個教師證 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2193.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
但是他不一定具備有足夠的所謂的這個民族文化的一個這樣子的一個教養的部分 |
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2199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2204.04 |
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那我想有沒有專門規劃培訓或者是認證的機制 |
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2204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2207.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
讓老師不只只是會教 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2207.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2210.04 |
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而且他是真正的懂原住民族的一個文化 |
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2210.04 |
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2211.04 |
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這是第一個問題 |
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2211.04 |
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2214.04 |
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第二個問題我的升學應該要怎麼銜接 |
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2214.04 |
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2219.04 |
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在升學的時候其實我們大部分還是看傳統的這個學科的一個成績 |
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2219.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
那當然這個實驗教育的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
那很多的家長可能就會問 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2227.04 |
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如果既然要讓孩子選擇升學 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2227.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
那要看的是傳統的學科的成績 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2233.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
那接著下來我為什麼要選擇這樣子的一個教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2233.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
所以我們這個教育部是不是有跟這個原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
2236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
或者是我們其他的一些大專院校有一起來共同的思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2247.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
怎麼樣來建立這個原住民族的一個教育特色的一個升學銜接的選材的一個機制 |
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2247.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
這個部分想請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2255.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
好我想第一個有關這個原住民族的這個那個相關的那個師資的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2255.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2257.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
就是具有他的文化特色 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2257.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
那我們現在呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
有關那個失陪的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2269.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
我們是透過次專長的這個師資的培育的方式來增加對原民文化的一個認識跟這個教學 |
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2269.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2275.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
那麼在115年度我們累積也核定了培育的學校有九所學校有16組 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2275.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
那取得這個次專長證書的也已經達到89位 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2283.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
那110年到115學員度呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2283.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2287.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
原住民的功費升也累積核定了406人 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2287.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2293.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
那114年度的失陪大學開設有關原住民族教育相關的議題課程 |
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2293.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2295.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
有43所學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2295.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2299.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
那休息過的人次也達到了13,643 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2299.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
那這部分我們會繼續跟原民會來合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2304.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
就辦理原住民族教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
2304.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2307.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
師資休息原住民族文化及多元文化的教育課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
2307.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
來讓輔導這個原住民族學校或是重點學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2315.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
或者是原住民教育專班的專任老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2315.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2317.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
族語教學資源工作人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2317.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2321.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
以及擔任六個月以上的代理代課及重點教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2321.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2325.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
都應該要分別休息36小時以及8小時的課程 |
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2325.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2331.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
預計在115年7月底完成課程者會有1萬2191人次 |
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2331.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2335.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
這部分我們是循序再增加 |
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2336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
再麻煩把這些比較詳細的說明資料提供給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2346.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
那有關大學新階是不是用特殊選材或其他的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2346.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2348.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
我們是不是請市長來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2348.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2349.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2349.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
那有關於我們原住民學生的就學權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
2352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2355.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
除了加分優待的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
2355.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2357.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
有參與他的族語認證之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2357.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2361.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
那我們在分發入學管道以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
2361.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2364.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
如果他是參加其他的招生管道的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
2364.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2368.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
我們原則上是會著重在他文化學習跟多元成 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2368.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2373.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
那個表現的一個成果來寓意審查他的經歷 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2373.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2377.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
所以說如果原民生他在申請入學的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2377.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
我們會就是說加強學校在族群文化學習成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
2382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2385.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
納入他的一個加分的一個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2385.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
那同時我們在大學招生專業化的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2388.04 |
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2390.04 |
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這個計畫裡頭 |
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會將這個所謂的文化多元的這樣的一個審查 |
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列為此規 |
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那尤其是針對原住民學生的時候 |
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作為他整個申請入學的一個發展的一個參考 |
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所以這整個文化知識體系 |
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如何進入所謂的專科以上的這個申請 |
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其實我們有相關的一個配套 |
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我想在高校的部分 |
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如果之後其實還有一些比方說 |
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這一類的一個成果的一個盤點 |
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到時候再提供給我 |
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那時間關係 |
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今天第二個問題 |
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我想請教一下這個次長的部分 |
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是關於我們雙語教育的部分 |
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那我想現在大家都在談 |
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這個最近在修正的這個 |
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外國教師聘僱管理規定 |
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我想開放這個外師教授藝文或者是體育等 |
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非語言領域的一些課程 |
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當然我們是希望能夠創造一些比較生活化的 |
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一個英語的環境 |
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那當然這個方向其實我們是支持 |
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但是我再次說明 |
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這個雙語教育不能只看KPI |
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不能只看KPI |
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我們更不能把其他的學科 |
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變成英文學習的一個工具 |
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那我想這個教師公會跟第一線的老師 |
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其實他們也都對這樣子的一個方向 |
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表達出他們的一些聲音跟一些疑慮 |
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那我想這個教育部可能真的要正視 |
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就是說外師的學科專業到底是由誰來認定 |
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那麼當然除了現在我們講到體育、藝文 |
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除了英文能力之外 |
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他的體育的專科還有藝術的專業 |
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是由誰來認定 |
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第一個問題 |
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第二個問題 |
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我怎麼確保這個學科的內容不會被稀釋 |
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也就是說因為我們講的體育課 |
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當然我們包含運動的技能、安全 |
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還有我們的這個健康 |
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那藝術的課程其實包含美感、創作、文化等等 |
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但是如果最後為了因應學生的英文程度 |
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我們老師在這兩門學科當中 |
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2506.04 |
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可能會把所有的教學的內容不斷的簡化 |
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變成是一個用英文來上一堂簡單的體育課 |
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2510.04 |
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2513.04 |
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或上一堂簡單的所謂的藝文課 |
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2516.04 |
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那這個時候到底我們是在做雙語教育 |
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2519.04 |
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還是在犧牲學科的一個教育這個部分請教 |
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2519.04 |
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2521.04 |
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好我想簡單來回答 |
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就是這個之前可能我們媒體的報導 |
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可能有一些這個誤解 |
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2528.04 |
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第一個就是說教育部是配合 |
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2528.04 |
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2531.04 |
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外國專業人才延展及僱用法的修法 |
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2531.04 |
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2533.04 |
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我們才去修正各級學校 |
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2533.04 |
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2536.04 |
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申請外國教師聘僱許可及管理辦法 |
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2536.04 |
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2538.04 |
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才會去增列就是說 |
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2538.04 |
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2541.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
高中以下學校得聘外國專業人才 |
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2541.04 |
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2546.04 |
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擔任語言及語言以外之藝能及活動相關領域或科目 |
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2546.04 |
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2548.04 |
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但是就像委員剛才提的 |
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2552.04 |
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外師的學科專業資格是由本部來審查認定 |
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2552.04 |
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2554.04 |
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那這個他的這個認定呢 |
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2554.04 |
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認定了就跟我們本國這個 |
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2559.04 |
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本國的老師他要去認這個課程 |
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2559.04 |
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2561.04 |
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他的角色也不是 |
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2564.04 |
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他是以外師目前外師為主 |
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2564.04 |
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2566.04 |
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那他如果有這個相關的背景 |
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他是協同教學 |
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2569.04 |
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他也不佔原來的名額 |
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2571.04 |
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所以外界會誤認說 |
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2573.04 |
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我們要聘外師來教體育或健康 |
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2575.04 |
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然後好像是排擠了本國的事資 |
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2577.04 |
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這個是一種錯誤的解讀 |
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2581.04 |
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我們已經發布了新聞稿的成心 |
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2581.04 |
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2583.04 |
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那即使外師有擔任 |
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2586.04 |
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他如果真的要去專任的這個 |
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2588.04 |
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相關的學科的課程 |
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2590.04 |
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他一定是依照我們的程序來提出 |
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2592.04 |
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那個是相當嚴謹也不容易取得 |
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2594.04 |
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好 我想我們再次的表達 |
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2595.04 |
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就是支持這個國際化 |
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2597.04 |
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也希望這個孩子能夠學好英文 |
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2599.04 |
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但是是個雙語教育的前提 |
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其實不能犧牲學科啦 |
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沒有犧牲學科 |
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2605.04 |
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然後再來就是我們更怕的是造成城鄉差距 |
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2607.04 |
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他是以雙語學習為主啦 |
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2608.04 |
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他是協同教學 |
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好 最後給我一點點時間 |
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2611.04 |
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最後一個問題 |
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2612.04 |
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我想這個最近雲林 |
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2613.04 |
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就前一陣子有一個案例 |
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就是一所國小在短短的兩年之內 |
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2617.04 |
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他竟然要承辦農園 |
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2619.04 |
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還有所謂的這個運動公園 |
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2619.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
2622.04 |
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橄欖球場 游泳池等大型的工程採購 |
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2625.04 |
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那這個是非常荒謬的一件事情 |
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我想這些工程 |
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他原本應該跟學校的本身 |
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2630.04 |
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其實是根本沒有直接的關係 |
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學校也不具備所謂的 |
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2634.04 |
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相關的工程的一個專業 |
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2634.04 |
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2636.04 |
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但是一個沒有游泳池的國小 |
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2638.04 |
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他為什麼要去負責所謂的 |
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2640.04 |
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游泳池的設計跟發包 |
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那麼依照我們政府採購法第四條 |
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這個代辦採購就應該要 |
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請所謂的這個具有專業能力的一個機關 |
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但是這個地方政府他自己沒有能力 |
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他本來應該就應該要找所謂的 |
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專業工程的一個單位 |
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不是把這個發包的工作 |
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其實丟給學校 |
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這個部分我想我們教育部 |
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有沒有跟工程會來做了解 |
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對 我想我們這部分都會提醒 |
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因為那個國中小的地方知識 |
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由地方縣市政府負責 |
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那我們有提醒他們就是說 |
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其實學校裡面他如果 |
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你要委託學校去代辦全縣的 |
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類似的工程 |
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你要注意到那個學校有沒有專業的 |
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一些工程的人才 |
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如果沒有的話 |
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其實我們在地方也待過 |
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就很多學校的工程 |
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甚至是委託縣府的專業發包機構來 |
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就是建管機構來執行 |
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所以如果是各級縣 |
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我們有會再提醒 |
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各級縣市政府要去委託學校去辦理 |
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| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
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這個縣市政府的一般性採購 |
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那如果涉及到委員所提的 |
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他裡面的工程人才 |
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並沒有相關的這些人才 |
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那他來代辦的話 |
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那個專業性跟他的這個事格 |
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是不是合宜 |
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這個我們會再提醒地方縣市政府 |
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而且更重要的一點 |
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其實我們一直不斷的在講 |
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就是學校已經面臨教師 |
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| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
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跟行政人力的一個不足 |
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這個時候其實又要承擔這個上千萬 |
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| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
2721.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
甚至上億的校外的工程 |
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跟我學校其實是無關的 |
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那學校反而沒有把所謂的 |
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2729.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
這些資源投入在我在教學的一個部分 |
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2729.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
2732.04 |
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還要替政府部門來做這樣子的一個工程 |
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| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
2733.04 |
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我想這個本部導致的這個部分 |
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可能請教育部可能還是要稍微延遲 |
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我們會跟地方政府再提醒一下 |
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| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
2738.04 |
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好謝謝市長 |
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| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
2739.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
謝謝主席 |
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2739.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
2741.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
好謝謝郭一群委員的質詢 |
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2741.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
2743.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
請次長回座 |
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2747.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
下一位我們有請陳秀寶委員進行詢答 |
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2753.91 |
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2754.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
謝謝主席 |
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2754.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
2755.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
請張廖次長 |
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| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
2757.91 |
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好有請張廖次長 |
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2762.35 |
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市長早安 |
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2762.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
2766.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
今天我們召委排的是原住民主學校的學校法的詢答 |
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2768.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
但是在進入這個主題之前 |
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| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
我這邊有幾個教育現場的一些相關的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
2773.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
先跟市長您來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
2773.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
2776.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
根據監察院的調查報告指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
2776.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
2781.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
我國學子附錄交流的學生跟教師的人數劇增 |
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2781.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
2788.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
大專院的學生從2196人增加到5745人 |
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2788.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
2794.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
高中職的學生從676人增加到1161人 |
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2794.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
2799.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
國中生也是從沒有增加到1021人 |
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| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
2803.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
國小學生從38人增加到1045人 |
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2803.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
2809.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
隨團的教師也從661人增加到1280人都是倍增 |
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| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
2810.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
數據也顯示 |
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| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
2814.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
我覺得中國對青少年統戰的年齡不斷的下修 |
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2814.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
2817.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
教育部是不是也應該要正視這個警訊 |
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| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
2822.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
監察院這邊要有針對教育部裡面建設一個平台 |
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2822.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
2825.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
要求各級學校落實填報中國活動資訊 |
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2825.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
2830.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
但是其實我覺得教育部沒有確實掌握各學校填報的情況 |
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2830.35 |
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2832.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
而且這個平台是事後登錄 |
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2834.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
這個機制並沒有很詳盡 |
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| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
2836.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
其實很多交流活動回來之後 |
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| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
2838.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
學校在填報只是虛擬故事 |
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| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
2842.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
讓我們很難去實際掌握這些相關的活動 |
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| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
2843.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
有沒有涉及統戰 |
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| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
或是它如果變更行程其實我們不曉得 |
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| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
2849.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
那由各別教師自行招攬學生附錄交流這個行程 |
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| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
2854.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
雖然是教育部從114年開始有要求就是說 |
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2856.35 |
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要在這填報 |
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| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
2861.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
但是很多教師自行招攬學生附錄沒有填報這個事情還是都有 |
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2864.35 |
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那這樣的狀況之下其實我們很難掌握 |
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2864.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
2867.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
那學生到那邊去這到底是什麼樣的行程 |
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2867.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
2871.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
甚至說他們學生人身的安全我們很難以來保障他 |
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2871.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
2874.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
那針對這個監察院提出的缺失 |
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2874.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
2877.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
教師教育部目前有什麼改善的這個方向 |
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2877.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
2882.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
我們其實教育部目前是配合陸委會來這個 |
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2882.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
2886.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
來做一些這個建立這個平台跟管理 |
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2886.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
2889.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
我們希望說兩岸的交流是真的是健康有序 |
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2889.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
2893.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
而不是配合那個對岸的一個統戰的一個活動 |
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2893.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
2896.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
那目前我們那個登錄平台在持續優化中 |
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| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
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就是說他只要行前一個月或是回來之後一個月一定要登錄 |
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2901.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
2905.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
確實剛才委員提到說他有時候如果他沒有登錄 |
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2905.35 |
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2908.35 |
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或者是這個情況的話我們也會去查啦 |
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| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
2914.35 |
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那當然抽查或者是事後有家長或者是學校檢舉的話 |
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2914.35 |
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2917.35 |
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我們事後如果查到的話也會予以糾正啦 |
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| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
2923.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
那當然我們會再我們已經多次的通函 |
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| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
2927.35 |
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就是來提醒說應該加強校內自我檢核跟內控的機制啦 |
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| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
2930.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
所以有些學校校長會說他們並不清楚 |
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2930.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
2936.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
有老師他是透過外面的社團然後他帶領帶過去 |
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2936.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
2941.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
那我們其實已經在通函裡面已經強調說學期內學期中 |
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絕對不與這個公假準與前往 |
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那寒暑假的活動比較多那這部分也必須要登錄 |
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那也希望能夠這個有這個主動發現 |
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或者是接獲檢舉學生附錄交流涉及陸方的統戰 |
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我們如果收到的話也會來調查並且含資學校來改善 |
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所以我們現在能做的就是一直把這樣的訊息然後提醒 |
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如果老師如果學校有違反類似的狀況當然也在列入考核 |
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| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
對剛剛提到說剛剛提到這個中國滲透的這個年齡下降 |
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| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
以及平台填報不實的狀況 |
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| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
其實也有大專校院他們附錄交流踩到紅線 |
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| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
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我知道教育部這邊有扣減講補助的這個辦法 |
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| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
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也有這樣子做了那其實我想有其他的私立大學也有不少違規的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
3000.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
那教育部針對這些違規的學校如果他已經被譬如說被處罰過了 |
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如果再犯那除了這個扣減這個講補助之後 |
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| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
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我們還有沒有什麼其他的懲罰的措施 |
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| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
我們會我們當然扣減補助款我相信那個對現在對這個私立學校來講 |
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是已經是非常嚴重的一個處分 |
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| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
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那如果他這個學那個學校不求改不改善的話 |
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| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
那當然那個處分會越來越重 |
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| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
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就是會繼續扣減 |
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會很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
那而且大專校院這個研究所的教評委員 |
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| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
還有主席有傳出說是聘請中國的學校的教授擔任 |
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| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
3040.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
那教育部你們也說明說教評會這樣的組成是有瑕疵的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
3043.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
那我們如何避免這樣的爭議再次發生 |
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| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
我請那個市長來跟你說請市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
報告委員針對這個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
3047.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
3051.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
我們其實有實地去訪查整個他們學校的運作課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
3051.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
3055.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
確實發現他們在師資結構上面確實出現問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
3055.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
3061.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
所以才會研聘現在正在中國任教的一個就是退休的教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
3061.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
3065.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
那我們在整個有關於他退休金相關的方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
3065.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
3067.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
我們也都在做相關的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
3067.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
3070.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
那這個部分我們已經責成學校要檢討改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
3070.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
3074.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
那相關的情形應該就是這一個學期 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
3074.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
3076.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
8月1號開始就不會再出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
3079.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
但是成如剛才委員所講的這個我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
3079.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
3081.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
責成各個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
3081.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
3084.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
所有的學校都要來遵守相關的一些規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
3084.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
3088.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
相關的這樣的案例可能要去提醒學校避免這樣的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
3088.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
3091.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
好那還有呢除了說去交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
3091.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
3096.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
我們也很多的國小或是國中的學生去參加體育的比賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
3096.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
3100.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
那中國呢卻是故意的隱蔽我們學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
3100.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
3102.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
國國參賽學校的校民 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
3102.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
3104.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
也被質疑說這是統戰交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
3104.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
3106.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
那這個部分教育部的立場是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
3106.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
3109.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
我們有什麼樣的方式可以來防範 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
3109.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
3110.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
對跟委員報告說 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
3110.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
3117.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
早期其實在兩岸交流方面這部分本來是非常平常的一個體育交流活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
3119.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
那就是因為這幾年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
3119.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
3121.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
大概這個交流活動變質 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
3121.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
3125.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
就是有所謂的融合或者統戰等等的這個目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
3125.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
3129.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
所以我們已經多次的再通知學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
3129.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
3131.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
就是這種化整為零的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
3131.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
3134.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
這樣過去一旦被查獲的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
3134.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
3138.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
我們一定會做其他將來如果學校申請相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
3138.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
3140.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
體育交流的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
3140.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
3144.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
或者是相關的一些活動的一些設備的申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
3144.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
3147.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
我們也會考慮予以扣減 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
3147.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
3148.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
就是要提醒學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
3148.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
3149.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
對會提醒學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
3149.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
3152.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
其實中國的這個滲透的手段是越來越多 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
3152.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
3155.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
那尤其透過教育教育交流的方式 |
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3155.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
3162.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
好像就是用這樣的方式是企圖影響我國的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
3162.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
3165.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
那麼就是在這個混淆這個國家認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
3168.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
所以我們應該要重視這個很嚴重的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
3168.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
3171.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
其實到中國大陸交流或比賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
3171.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
3176.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
相對去其他國家的風險是很複雜而且比較高的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
3179.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
當然我們學生我們的選手有機會去交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
3183.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
去比賽做一個互相的切磋應該是美式 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
3183.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
3186.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
但是中國他們正覺不穩對安全他也不注重 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
3186.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
3189.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
像石的安全行的安全常常都發生意外 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
3189.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
3192.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
再來就是說現在其實中國對我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
3192.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
3194.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
這是一個不對等的交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
3194.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
3198.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
他們也是很偏偏的阻止他們的學生來我們台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
3198.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
3200.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
但是我們台灣的學生會過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
3200.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
3202.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
那我們過去交流的相關的訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
3202.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
3205.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
他也不會去轉發也不會去公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
3208.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
就等於是一個不對等的訊息是不公開的 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
3210.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
那這樣子的有個統戰的疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
3210.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
3213.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
我們去的單位我們交流的單位比賽的單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
3213.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
3217.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
被他們隱蔽了這些校名單位的名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
3217.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
3221.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
我想這個而且他們在會議中各種的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
3221.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
3224.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
可能會有什麼兩岸融合一家親這樣的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
3224.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3227.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
來混淆我們的孩子對國家的認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
3227.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3229.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
我想這是一個很嚴重的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
3229.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3232.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
也希望說教育部這邊你們真的是要有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
3232.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3235.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
跟委員報告我們現在也是跟陸委會來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
3235.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3238.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
各級學校辦理那個中國大陸試圖的課程跟活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
3238.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3243.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
來加強對兩岸關係以及政府兩岸政策的正確認知 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
3243.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3244.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
避免自我矮化 |
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3244.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3247.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
那我們在九月跟十月份的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3247.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3252.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
也會針對大學校院督導兩岸教育交流業務主管人員及承辦人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
3252.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3255.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
來辦理兩次的研習活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
3255.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
3260.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
提升學校這個兩岸教育交流事務相關人員的專業性 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3260.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3264.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
以及認知性跟警覺性這部分我們會加強來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
3264.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3267.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
那這樣次長我請剛才我提到的這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
3267.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
3269.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
你是不是也一份順便報告給北市辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3269.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
3272.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
然後我再爭取一點點時間我要講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3272.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
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八月三十一號就要開學了 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3274.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3279.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
那很多家長跟基層教育現場都非常關心學校準備的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
3279.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3281.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
那現在有個問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
3281.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3283.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
第一個針對學校反毒的這個工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
3283.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3286.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
我們預計在九份預計在九月的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
3286.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3288.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
一通明指這個新興毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
3288.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3291.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
我們要導入校園的這個唾液快篩的這個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
3291.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3294.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
我們是非常支持這個保護學校的初衷 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
3294.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3298.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
但是基層學校也反映說相關的規範還沒有明朗 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3298.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3303.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
那目前的尚未法毒品危害防治條例的修法進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
3303.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3307.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
目前怎麼樣那教育部這邊的配套作業什麼時候可以定案 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3307.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3309.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
如果開學前法規沒有完備的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3309.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3312.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
那這樣的這個機制是不是會順眼 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3315.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
或者說我們預計何時可以正式的推行 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
3315.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
3319.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
好各位報告我們在今年的六月十八號行政院院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
3319.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
3325.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
已經通過了那個毒品危害防治條例第三十三條及第三十六條的修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
3325.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3328.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
目前正送立法院在審議中 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
3328.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
3331.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
那我們這個從今年的二月開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
3337.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
其實我們也不斷在研修各級學校特定人員尿液篩檢及輔導作業的要點 |
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| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3345.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
有訂定這個唾液快篩工具執行程序結果處理及輔導轉介介入等相關的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
3347.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
讓學校能夠有所依循 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
3347.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
3351.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
那麼等到這個修法完成之後法源完備之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3351.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
3355.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
會來推動學校對於特定人員的一個唾液篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
3355.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3358.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
那我們相關的作業要點是已經定案了 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
3358.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
3361.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
然後只要他三位法修訂完成就可以馬上實行嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
3361.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
3363.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
是我們其實現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
就是已經就緒了 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3364.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3368.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
對其實已經就緒了我們也會再加強跟學校這邊的一個溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
3368.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3373.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
其實我更希望說我們能夠主動加強跟第一線教師的溝通跟宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3373.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3375.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
我們一定要有很明確的作業指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3378.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
讓他們在執行的時候可以更放心 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3380.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
這一點教育部你們現在做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
3380.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3383.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
其實我們在七月的時候七月二十一號大概一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
3383.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3389.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
三個禮拜前有針對大專校園校園安全支援中心及國教署 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3397.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
以及各縣市的教育局處聯絡都來辦理這個總指教師以及校園執行人員的一個教育訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3402.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
這些內容就包括對新興毒品的辨識還有那個試劑的操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
3402.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3405.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
以及這個隱私的維護結果的判讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
3405.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3408.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
那校園的通報跟後續要怎麼輔導轉介 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3408.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
3410.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
所以我們相關的指引作業指引都已經有給 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
3410.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3412.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
對我們暑假上個月有做這方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3412.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3413.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
都有給教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
3413.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3417.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
另外取中學校面臨的現在很嚴重的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3421.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
就是教師跟代理教師招募困難的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3421.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3424.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
那現在離開學只剩下兩個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3424.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3428.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
那部分的學校經歷多次的徵學沒有辦法補齊這些相關的資資 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3428.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3431.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
所以我們家長就會很擔心說開學之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3431.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3435.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
到底課程的協階跟我們學生受教的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3436.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3440.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
那請教教育部現在有沒有掌握各縣市缺耳的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3442.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
如果說有這樣的缺耳發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
3442.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3446.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
我們會不會有跨縣市或是短期的這樣配套措施來支援 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3448.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
對我們因為這樣子 |
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| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3451.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
我們跟幾乎每個禮拜都跟各縣市政府有開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
3454.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
就他那個缺耳是不斷的浮動 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
3454.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
3456.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
有的會臨時又請假等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
3456.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
3458.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
所以我們目前在掌握當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
3460.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
也在協助也建立了平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
3460.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
3462.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
就是說梅河的那個平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
3464.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
能夠把那個訊息公告出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
3464.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
3467.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
讓要去做這個代理教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
3467.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
3471.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
那這樣子次長您將到目前為止到這個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
3471.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
3473.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
你們所掌握的相關的缺耳狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
3473.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
3475.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
可不可以一份資料給我辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
3475.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
3477.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
我們再提供給委員好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
3477.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
3478.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
因為那個一直在浮動 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
3478.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
3482.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
請務必要確實的能夠協助學校開學之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
3482.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
3486.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
可以順利的讓學生受教不會受到影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
3486.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
3487.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
3487.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
3488.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
謝謝次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
3489.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
3491.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
好謝謝陳秀芳委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
3491.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
3492.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
請次長回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
3492.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
3497.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
下一位我們有請蘇巧惠委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
3505.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
3507.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
3507.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
3511.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
我們請張廖次長還有杜彰副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
3511.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
3514.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
好有請張廖次長及杜彰副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
3518.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
3520.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
次長好副主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
3520.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
3525.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
那我同樣的問題可能有時候會想請兩位都分別回答一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
3525.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
3529.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
因為今天我們最主要要來說這個原住民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
3529.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
3533.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
到底這個制度到底要怎麼設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
3533.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
3536.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
那當然就牽涉到原住民族的這個教育法的這個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
3536.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
3538.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
我們要怎麼樣訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
3538.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
3541.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
那其實我們在六月的時候已經開過公聽會了 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
3541.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
3543.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
那大家意見分層 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
3543.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
3547.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
不只是專家學者的意見還沒有達到一致的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
3547.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
3549.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
那同時教育部跟原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
3549.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
3553.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
那其實在意見上面也不見得說百分百完全一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
3553.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
3557.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
所以我前前面幾個問題想請教兩位都分別回答一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
3557.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
3559.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
請問次長好簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
3559.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
3563.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
你認為原住民族學校應不應該設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
3563.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
3569.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
那它和原住民族實驗學校也就是現在有的有什麼差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
3569.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
3571.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
好我想那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
3572.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
3575.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
我們是尊重那個聯合國憲法的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
3575.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
3578.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
聯合國憲章跟憲法的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
3578.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
3580.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
我們是支持成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
3580.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
3584.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
但是那個整個原住民知識體系的建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
3584.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
3588.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
我想基本上基於原住民族自治自主的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
3588.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
3591.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
我們尊重原民會這邊的一個計畫推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
3591.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
3593.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
所以第一你贊成要設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
3593.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
3596.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
但是第二你這個整盤直接要給原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
3596.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
3600.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
不是他們因為他那個有關原住民知識體系的建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
3600.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
3603.54 |
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那需要時間需要累積他們計畫 |
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所以他一定要累積到一定的成果 |
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譬如說有很多我們以前很關心主義老師夠不夠 |
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3612.54 |
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老師的老師的自治培育怎麼樣子來進行 |
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所以這個會有一段過程 |
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那實驗那個原住民實驗學校大概上路大概十年左右 |
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十年左右有累積相當的成果 |
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但是也有不少問題 |
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譬如說有些學校像我們到和平區 |
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他有泰雅的一個專門的實驗學校 |
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| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
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以泰雅族為本位的一個教材編列的方式 |
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那我們到了花東區可能又是另外一套編列方式 |
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那當然因為我們是不同族別 |
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所以這個將來如何建立一個原住民族 |
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為主體性的一個自治體系 |
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我想這部分我們還是尊重原民會的一個 |
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好這是你的答案 |
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那我們請杜葬副主委 |
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原住民學校要成立這個當然是應該 |
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當然答案方向是肯定的嘛 |
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一定是要的嘛 |
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| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
3659.54 |
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但是他和現在原住民學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
3659.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3663.54 |
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原住民族學校跟目前的原住民實驗教育學校 |
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這個有什麼差別 |
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我想實驗教育學校現在目前就等於是 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3670.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
原住民族學校先起的這個測試 |
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就是我們透過這個實驗學校來看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3678.54 |
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未來如果要建立原住民學校的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
3680.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
你看我們事實上數量一直在增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
3680.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
3682.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
那為什麼從實驗學校跳到 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3684.54 |
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現在目前就是說也有一些問題發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
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3687.54 |
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就是說我們擔心說如果原住民學校直接設立的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
3687.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3690.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
可能師資的這個培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
還有這個知識結構的建立 |
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| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
還有這個軟硬體各方面我們覺得還並不是很完備 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
3697.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3698.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
我們擔心這個成立以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3700.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
實際上還有這個學生的來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3702.54 |
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家長的餘力這個都是要考慮的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3704.54 |
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好非常謝謝兩位的答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3705.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
希望階段性的來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3707.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
是非常謝謝兩位的答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3707.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3710.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
我想其實這就是我們今天要討論問題的核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
3710.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3713.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
大家都同意要有原住民族學校這個方向沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
3713.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3716.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
那我們也看得到現階段其實在實驗教育的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
3716.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3720.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
我們從這個105年只有7所到現在114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
3720.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3726.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
已經有國小39所國中3所國中小2所完全中學1所 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
3726.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3727.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
這樣的數量了 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3731.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
事實上在我們新北這邊烏來的這個德拉南學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3734.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
也辦理的相當有成績 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3737.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
但是就如同次長或副主委說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3739.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
他的問題也還是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
3739.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3741.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
這最大的問題其實就是幾個嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3741.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3743.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
第一個的話就是教育師資的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3747.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
其實真的是師資非常非常的難找 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
3747.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3751.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
尤其是你還要同時具有原住民族身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
3751.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3754.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
甚至是你的族語還要是通過族語認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
3754.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3757.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
而且是中高階甚至是高階以上這樣的認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3757.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3758.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
真的是很難找 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
3758.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3760.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
第二是課程的研發設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3760.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3763.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
就兩位剛剛也都回答這樣的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3765.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
因為我們的族別是相當的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3765.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3767.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
而且過去我們的知識傳習體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3767.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3770.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
跟現在的學校教育體系不見得相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3770.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3772.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
不見得完全相符 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3772.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3774.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
所以要能夠編撰成課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3774.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3776.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
這個又是一大挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3776.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3779.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
那最後其實是行政繁重 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3781.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
因為光是兩位次長副主委站在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
3781.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3784.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
其實到底什麼事情應該是要歸教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3784.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3785.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
什麼事情要歸原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3785.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3788.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
兩個事情兩個部會又有沒有重疊規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3788.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3790.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
以至於要變成兩邊都要服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3790.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3793.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
或者是下去以後到底是要由哪一個單位來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3793.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3794.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
我想不只中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3797.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
甚至是地方其實也相當的遇到困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3797.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3799.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
所以在這樣的三個部分來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3801.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
我也想請教了 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3803.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
所以我們既然朝著要的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3806.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
甚至是我們現在也承認了 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3806.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3807.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
在實驗教育的階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3807.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3809.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
就也已經有這樣的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3809.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3810.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
不曉得兩位 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3810.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3814.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
比如說這個其實應該還是要問教育部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3814.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3816.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
那請張廖次長等一下又先回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3816.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3819.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
在這個三大問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3819.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3821.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
師資 課程設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3821.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3823.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
以及行政負擔的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3823.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3825.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
我們先從師資好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3825.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3827.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
那我們就也甚至先回到實驗教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3827.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3829.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
那您在師資的這個部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3831.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3834.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
現在有什麼樣的增加的方式嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3834.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3835.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
不然的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3835.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3837.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
如果我們連現在實驗教育的階段 |
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3837.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3839.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
都沒有辦法克服它的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3839.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3841.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
我們要怎麼樣討論到 |
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3841.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3843.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
後來要有原住民族學校呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3843.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3845.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
那大家又都同意要有原住民學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3845.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3847.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
你現在不往這邊走 |
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3847.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3849.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
那我怎麼相信這是要有的呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3852.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
對 其實我們現在在師資培育上 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3852.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3855.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
確實是比較首要的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3855.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3858.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
我們現在是透過很多次專長課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3858.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3863.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
或相關的原住民族相關議題的學分班 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3863.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3868.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
那盡量能夠培育有相關專長的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3870.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3872.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
要培育那個完全的 |
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剛才那個委員有提到那個主語老師 |
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有時候他因為 |
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他的那個他可能會講 |
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可是他的那個 |
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要用到主語來進行教學 |
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那又是另外一件事情 |
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所以這個在培育上面 |
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其實在我們的那個 |
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師資培育的體系裡面 |
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事實上如果要 |
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我們現在盡量透過次專長 |
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因為能夠進入師培的體系的 |
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他們的主語老師 |
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他不見得有資質 |
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那原民會這邊有沒有任何的這個補助機制 |
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怎麼樣的鼓勵方式 |
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我們今年有特別委託國立大學來對我們的課綱 |
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課程來做一個研發啦 |
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就來配合說 |
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未來原住民族學校他真正成立的時候 |
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所以你是跳到第二個課程設計的部分 |
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那師資的部分呢 |
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主語認真的部分呢 |
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我們目前是希望說能夠透過 |
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跟社區的這些起勞們能夠結合 |
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能夠在課程研發上可能不單單只有 |
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師資的培育 |
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他自己能說主語 |
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因為說主語這件事情 |
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你要在課程上說主語 |
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要培養不是短時間 |
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那這當然又回到另外一個問題 |
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您現在在說的是起勞 |
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3937.03 |
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來用主語來教育大家這些知識知識的部分 |
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對 文化課程嘛 |
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好 那可是我們再想像一下 |
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如果我們今天是一間原住民族學校 |
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3945.03 |
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那我們現在的實驗教育裡面 |
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是有一般的課程 |
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還有原住民文化的相關課程 |
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文化課程 |
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3951.03 |
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一般課程加文化課程 |
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是存在我們的實驗教育裡面 |
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那未來我們的原住民族學校裡面 |
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它是一般課程依然保有嗎 |
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那一般課程也是要用主語教學嗎 |
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你要用阿梅語 |
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你要用泰雅語來教授我們現在的華文嗎 |
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還是是要用泰雅語 |
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阿梅語來教授我們的數學嗎 |
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所以這個就是我們現在委託研究這方面 |
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我們想要做一個比較清楚的釐清 |
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那用主語來教一般課程 |
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是不是有它的難度可能 |
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我認為是有相當的難度 |
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因為要用全母語來教育文化課程 |
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3987.03 |
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就已經有教和學之間的困難點 |
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所以這些困難點如果沒有打通的話 |
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我們其實要進到下一步 |
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3993.03 |
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其實是有相當相當的難度 |
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這也就是今天我們要審查法規之前 |
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我們還是要很務實的 |
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3999.03 |
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把現場實務的狀況能夠釐清 |
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因為我們事實上我們前進到 |
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4002.03 |
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4005.03 |
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我們是真正在實驗小學裡面看到的狀況 |
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4007.03 |
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實驗小學一間學校裡面 |
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4007.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
4010.03 |
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你從老師到行政人員要有多少人 |
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4014.03 |
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這些人到底是要有多少是具有原民身份的 |
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4016.03 |
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要有多少是會主語身份的 |
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才能建構所謂一個沉浸式的主語教學環境 |
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4022.03 |
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而我這間學校裡面 |
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4024.03 |
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孩子又是哪一個族別的 |
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這個族別裡面我們這麼多族裡面 |
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| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
4030.03 |
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你要讓他沉浸在哪一種語言裡面 |
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4032.03 |
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這也就是另外一個問題 |
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所以我阿美的孩子去到泰雅或者是去排灣 |
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4038.03 |
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我們可以學會互相尊重 |
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4040.03 |
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但這是我要的狀況嗎 |
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所以我如果是我現在的需求的話 |
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我會認為我們這個是一個非常好的理想 |
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應該要前進 |
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4052.03 |
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但我會要求的是在我實驗教育的部分 |
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4054.03 |
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你先讓我有更多的資源 |
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4056.03 |
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比如說在師資培訓的部分 |
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4059.03 |
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能不能有更多的誘因讓年輕人願意擔任 |
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4062.03 |
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或者是承襲了族語的這個部分 |
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4064.03 |
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然後甚至願意來當老師 |
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4064.03 |
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4066.03 |
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先補足我實驗教育的這一塊 |
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4069.03 |
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我連得拉奶那樣找老師其實也不是容易的事情了 |
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這是第一個嘛 |
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4073.03 |
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第二一般老師但是還不會足以的 |
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4077.03 |
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是不是也有其他的誘因願意加入這間學校 |
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4078.03 |
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我有很多一般的人 |
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4080.03 |
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我們新北的很多其他地區的人 |
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4083.03 |
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也願意到山上去跟孩子們相處 |
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就覺得那裡非常愉快嘛 |
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4086.03 |
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所以這個部分能不能有誘因 |
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4090.03 |
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先補足那裡的學校師資資源 |
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4092.03 |
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這是第一件事情 |
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4094.03 |
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第二件事情因為我已經占用到下一位委員的時間了 |
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4096.03 |
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第二件事情的話是 |
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4096.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
4099.03 |
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我認為在課程的設計上面不是只有大學的部分而已 |
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4102.03 |
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它應該是可以有區域性的策略聯盟 |
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| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
4104.03 |
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比如說再說一次我的得拉奶 |
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4106.03 |
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我的得拉奶是泰雅的孩子 |
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4108.03 |
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那我們最近的部分是在哪裡 |
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4110.03 |
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是反而是在新竹啊 |
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4110.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
4111.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
新竹的堅實鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
4111.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
4112.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
所以稍微遠一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
4112.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
4116.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
但我們的課程其實應該是跟新竹的泰雅共用 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
4116.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
4119.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
這反而會是一個比較合理的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
4119.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
4123.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
所以我的策略聯盟應該是把同族別 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
4123.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
4128.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
但地理位置上相對於相較與還是相對較近的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
4128.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
4130.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
有沒有辦法您再給一點資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
4130.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
4132.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
讓我們勾起來啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
4132.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
4134.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
讓我們可以聚在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
4134.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
4138.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
我覺得這樣的發展課程設計可能會相對是好一點的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
4138.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
4140.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
以上是我提的兩個具體的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
4141.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
4143.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
4142.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
4144.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
不曉得對兩位這邊能不能做個回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
4144.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
4146.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
我們質詢就到這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
4146.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
4148.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
委員等一下說實驗教育的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
4148.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
4150.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
我們會朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
4150.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
4152.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
就是說你剛發現國小有39所 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
4152.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
4154.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
國中會變少 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
4154.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
4157.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
那很多就可能他必須透過委員講那個聯盟 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
4157.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
4159.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
用專班的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
4159.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
4161.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
就近在那個學校裡面成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
4161.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
4163.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
這個部分我們跟原民會繼續來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
4164.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
4166.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
謝謝委員這個提點 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
4166.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
4169.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
其實委員講的部分事實上會裡面也都在逐步在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
4169.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
4172.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
不管時事的培育我們用公費的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
4172.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
4174.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
或者是說跟部落的文化的結合 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
4174.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
4176.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
課程的設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
4176.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
4178.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
還有剛剛軟硬體的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
4178.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
4181.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
其實我們有一些階段性的計畫都在進行中 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
4181.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
4184.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
我們希望能夠達成完備以後才能夠去 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
4184.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
4187.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
您能不能把這個您剛剛所提到的您支持的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
4187.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
4189.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
所有有相關計畫能夠有講補助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
4189.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
4191.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
不管是教育部還是原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
4191.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
4193.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
能夠對剛剛提到的方向部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
4193.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
4196.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
有任何講補助的都送一份資料到我們辦公室來 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
4196.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
4200.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
我的結論是我支持可以有原住民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
4200.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
4206.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
但我要求在現階段更大力的支持原住民族實驗教育學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
4206.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
4208.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
請告訴我們支持的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
4208.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
4209.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
4211.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
4214.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
好 謝謝蘇巧慧委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
4214.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
4216.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
請次長副主委回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
4217.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
4220.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
接下來我們有請王美慧委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
4226.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
4228.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
出席咱家 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
4228.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
4230.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
正是剛剛的副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
4234.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
4235.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
4235.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
4237.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
有請正是副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
4239.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
4246.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
今天所要講的就是原住民族學生的草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
4246.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
4248.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
在這個過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
4248.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
4250.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
我們都覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
4250.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
4253.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
主要的核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
4253.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
4255.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
在學校的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
4255.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
4257.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
我們都來用 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
4257.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
4259.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
民族原住民義 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
4260.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
4262.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
在這個過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
4262.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
4264.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
我們都覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
4264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
4266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
我們用母語的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
4266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
4270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
一邊學習各項的體識 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
4270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
4273.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
又要學我們本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
4274.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
4277.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
在這個過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
4277.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
4278.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
4279.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
4280.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
都來不及了 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
4281.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
4283.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
因為在這個過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
4283.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
4284.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
我們都覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
4284.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
4286.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
越來越多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
4288.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
4289.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
Boy oh |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
4289.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
4291.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
不過在這個過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
4292.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
4294.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
難受過 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
4299.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
4301.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
在這個過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
4303.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
4304.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
有的都想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
4304.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
4306.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
到我去專門去打的 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
4306.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
4309.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
乾脆我的交通也不方便 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
4310.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
4314.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
我的生活在附近的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
4314.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
4317.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
也沒有做這個規劃的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
4317.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
4319.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
我們的原住民的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
4321.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
4324.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
會跟普通的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
4324.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
4326.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
做會談的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
4326.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
4328.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
我們有如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
4328.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
4329.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
要給這些孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
4329.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
4333.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
可以讓我們的母語保存下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
4333.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
4335.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
來請回答一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
4336.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
4337.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
我想我們現在有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
4337.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
4338.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
族語的推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
4338.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
4341.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
那有些學校都會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
4341.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
4343.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
不管是各族群在都市 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
4343.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
4345.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
我們盡可能的做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
4345.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
4346.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
只要有學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
4346.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
4347.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
我們就要有族語老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
4347.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
4348.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
來輔導他 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
4348.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
4349.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
那委員講的沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
4349.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
4352.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
原住民學生確實會很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
4352.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
4354.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
他要學習自己的文化語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
4354.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
4356.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
還要學習一般的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
4356.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
4357.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
這個也是在推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
4357.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
4358.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
原住民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
4358.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
4360.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
我們必須去考慮如何兼顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
4360.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
4361.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
他的確有很大的難度 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
4361.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
4362.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
在不管語言上 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
4362.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
4363.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
未來的教學什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
4363.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
4365.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
這個都是我們會去考慮的 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
4365.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
4366.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
謝謝委員的提點 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
4366.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
4367.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
但是對族語的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
4367.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
4368.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
事實上我們已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
4368.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
4371.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
透過了什麼族語保密 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
4371.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
4373.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
曾經是教學很多的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
4373.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
4376.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
去讓我們的學生能夠學習族語 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
4376.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
4377.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
這個部分是做得比較徹底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
4377.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
4379.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
自己其他課程的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
4379.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
4381.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
可能還要再有一些努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
4381.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
4382.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
4382.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
4385.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
因為副主委跟我們的政事 |
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4385.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
4388.72 |
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本身跟你們談到的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
4388.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
4391.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
我們的屬於教育的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
4392.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
4394.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
4394.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
4398.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
在這個教育法第34條裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
4398.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
4400.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
我們最主要的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
4400.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
4406.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
重點要來我們的老師評價 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
4406.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
4408.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
但是在這個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
4408.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
4410.42 |
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我們是所了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
4410.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
4412.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
來點老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
4412.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
4414.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
不就 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
4414.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
4417.06 |
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這個不就是越來越嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
4417.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
4421.06 |
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所以政治你是不是可以提出 |
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4421.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
4423.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
你的什麼想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
4423.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
4426.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
可以加強這些師生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
4426.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
4428.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
可以給這些孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
4428.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
4431.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
比较好學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
4431.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
4434.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
我們現在大概教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
4434.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
4436.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
有配合提供四支培育法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
4436.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
4438.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
有關之前培育課程的基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
4438.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
4441.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
這個基準裡面就包含本土語文 |
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4441.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
4443.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
原住民族語文專長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
4443.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
4446.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
以及民族教育次專長的專門課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
4446.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
4448.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
這是第一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
4448.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
4451.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
我們也會提供原民會來做參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
4451.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
4453.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
來確保四支品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
4453.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
4454.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
跟整個體系的銜接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
4454.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
4455.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
那第二個部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
4455.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
4456.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
我們也納入了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
4456.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
4459.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
之前的培育課程基準的本土語文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
4459.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
4461.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
就是原住民族的專門課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
4461.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
4464.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
以及原住民族之民族教育次專長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
4464.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
4466.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
專門課程的架構表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
4466.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
4468.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
也來結合公費制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
4468.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
4471.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
來擇九所失陪的大學專案的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
4471.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
4474.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
辦理原住民族四支培育學分班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
4474.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
4477.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
來提供原住民公費升級四支升 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
4478.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
4482.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
免學分休息的族語 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
4482.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
4484.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
以及民族教育的相關課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
4484.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
4486.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
這是第二個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
4486.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
4488.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
那第三個部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
4488.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
4490.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
有一些沒有教師資格的族語老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
4490.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
4493.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
以及代理教師的進修資格管道的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
4493.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
4496.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
我們也是從109年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
4496.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
4499.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
就開設了中小學本土語文原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
4500.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
4503.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
語文專長的學士後教育學分班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
4503.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
4506.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
來提供給現職以及非現職的族語老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
4506.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
4508.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
以及族語教學資源工作人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
4508.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
4512.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
就他們可能沒有一般師資的培育的資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
4512.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4514.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
可是我們會開這個專班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
4514.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
4516.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
讓這些包括代理教師等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
4516.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
4519.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
這些族語老師或者是資源工作的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
4519.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
4521.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
這些族語老師能夠鼓勵他們在職進修 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
4521.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
4523.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
也給他獎助金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
4523.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
4526.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
那最後就是我們有關合格教師的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
4526.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
4528.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
就是他現在合格教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
4528.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4530.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
他怎麼去修這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
4530.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
4535.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
有關相關的原住民族的教育相關的一些課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
4535.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4538.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
就是我們從111年就開始來開設 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4538.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4541.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
原住民族民族教育次專長教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
4541.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4543.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
就是讓現在的合格教師再加一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
4543.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
4545.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
原住民族教育的次專長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
4545.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4547.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
在此進修學分班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
4547.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4552.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
來提升現職老師對原住民族教育的這個民族教育資能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
4554.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4556.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
在這個規定當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
4556.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4560.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
我覺得要花這麼多時間讓你去解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4560.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4564.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
因為有很多原住民的像是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4564.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4565.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
自己也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4565.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4566.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
他住在阿里山 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4566.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4571.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
但是他的孩子都忙著在家裡去上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4571.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4574.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
所以在這個規定的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
4574.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4577.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
是要跟政治局副主委說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4577.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4582.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
我們要怎麼樣讓他的原住民的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4582.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
4584.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
可以再多一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4584.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4586.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
因為我們看到他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
4586.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4590.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
沒有要進來學來讀書的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
4590.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
4592.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
是非常辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
4592.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
4594.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
但是他的長輩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
4594.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
4596.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
有希望他的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
4596.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
4601.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
可以獲得他本身的母乙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
4601.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
4604.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
還可以來教自己去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
4604.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
4606.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
上學的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
4606.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
4607.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
可以融入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
4607.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
4610.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
所以在這個規定當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
4610.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
4612.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
是非常辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
4612.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
4615.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
我們也有他們的母乙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
4615.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
4617.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
還是要學的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
4617.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
4619.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
可以再學做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
4619.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
4621.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
這是最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
4621.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
4622.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
4622.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
4624.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
因為在這個規定當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
4625.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
4628.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
家裡沒有很多原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
4628.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
4633.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
但是家裡有很多原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
4633.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
4636.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
孩子會在家裡讀書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
4636.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
4638.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
是非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
4638.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
4641.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
所以副主委你是不是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
4641.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
4642.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
分心會跟他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
4642.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
4649.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
要怎麼樣讓他們可以到位學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
4649.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
4650.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
這是很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
4651.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
4652.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
4652.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
4654.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
就是針對主語學習的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
4654.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
4657.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
到都會地區原住民的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
4657.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
4660.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
原則上只要是有原住民學生在學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
4660.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
4662.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
我們都會有主語老師協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
4662.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
4664.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
來去教授他的主語 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
4664.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
4666.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
當然會有一個兩個或是閃的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
4666.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
4668.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
其實也有線上的教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
4668.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
4669.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
我們也推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
4669.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
4671.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
盡可能的做到不要遺漏 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
4671.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
4673.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
任何一個原住民學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
4673.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
4675.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
在母乙的學習上盡可能的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
4675.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
4677.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
分析就是反而說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
4677.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
4679.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
遺漏他啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
4679.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
4682.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
所以不可能說遺漏他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
4683 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
4685 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
到他四月初的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
4685 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
4687 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
他學校也要清 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4687 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
4689 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
我們也不可能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
4689 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4691 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
兩三個我們就是評價 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
4692.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
4694.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
我們的師生要學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
4694.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
4696.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
學校會考慮成本的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
4696.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4697.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
4697.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
4699.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
但是我說給他們補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
4699.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4701.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
我們教的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
4701.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
4705.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
不管是生命值的都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
4705.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
4709.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
不能用本身的投資力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
4709.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4711.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
報酬力這樣來算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
4711.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
4713.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
我們要了解嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
4713.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4714.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
要啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
4714.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4716.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
我們那些孩子的母乙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4716.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4719.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
教學生都要教下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4719.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4721.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
如果這不可以算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
4721.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4722.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
投資了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
4722.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
4724.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
這是未來我們台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
4725.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
4727.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
要考這些年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
4727.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
4728.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
跟我們的原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4728.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4729.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
這是最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4729.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4730.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
我給你們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4730.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
4732.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
我們現在108課綱 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4732.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
4733.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
已經有納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4733.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4735.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
原住民族的族語也是本土語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4735.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4737.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
所以在各級學校都有開設 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
4737.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
4739.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
目前高國中小 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
4739.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
4741.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
大概有休息族語的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
4741.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4743.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
學生人次在五萬多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
4743.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
4744.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
那剛才委員關心的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
4744.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
4745.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
如果比較少的那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
4745.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
4747.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
我們會開設直播共學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
4747.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
4749.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
這在當 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
4749.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
4751.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
在關注原住民學校成立的同時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4751.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
4753.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
其實這個非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4753.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4755.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
就是讓他的族語 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4755.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4757.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
就是委員所講的母語 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4757.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4758.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
能夠沒有斷掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4758.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4760.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
能夠在現行的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4760.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4762.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
都會去的學校就能夠學得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4762.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4764.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
目前五萬多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4766.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4768.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
所以剛才政治的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4768.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4770.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
我就是比較煩惱多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4770.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4772.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
還有我們未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4772.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4774.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
都要去要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4774.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
4775.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
要去查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
4775.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4776.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
不是像是說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4776.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4778.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
我們要辦要辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
4778.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
4779.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
有時候一個沒辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
4779.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4780.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
兩個沒辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
4780.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
4782.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
這樣我們就完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
4782.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4786.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
還有很多本性的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
4786.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4788.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
還有學校跟你們探討說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
4788.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4791.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
未來我們這些原住民的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
4791.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4793.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
會不會有這個學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
4793.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
4795.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
我們原住民的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
4795.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
4797.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
要怎樣才能夠好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
4797.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
4798.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
才能夠成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
4798.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
4799.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
4800.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
4801.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
4801.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4803.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
謝謝王委會委員的諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
4803.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
4805.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
請官員回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
4807.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
4809.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
本席先做一個宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
4809.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
4813.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
應本會多位委員的請求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
4813.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
4815.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
下午會議的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
4815.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4817.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
改為下午一點開始舉行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4817.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4819.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
請議事人員聯繫相關部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
4819.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4821.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
也請各黨團助理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4821.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4823.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
協助通知各黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4824.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4825.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
下一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4825.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4826.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
我們有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4826.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4828.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
張鴻祿委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4836.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4837.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
請兩位次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4838.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4840.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
請兩位次長副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4844.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4845.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4846.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4847.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4848.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4849.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
次長跟副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4849.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4851.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4851.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4853.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4853.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4855.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
如果以今天這個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4855.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4859.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
我們要設立原住民主學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4859.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4862.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
兩個部會都認同嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4862.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4863.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
都要推動了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4864.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4866.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
這個在105年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4866.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4868.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
我們有關原住民的政策有做分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4868.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4870.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
那我們負責的原教法部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4870.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4873.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
108年已經修法完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4873.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4876.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
那我們也認同原住民學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4876.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4877.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
我們也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4877.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4879.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
我們會配合原民會的規劃進程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4879.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4880.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
不管是私資培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4880.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4882.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
或者是其他方面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4882.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4884.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
相關的原住民主教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4884.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4886.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
自治體系建立我們會配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4886.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4887.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4887.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4890.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
大家也都樂觀其成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4890.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4891.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
不過有幾個問題點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4891.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4893.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
可能要討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4893.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4894.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4895.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4896.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4897.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4898.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4898.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4900.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
我知道教育部還有原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4900.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4902.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
是要希望以既有的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4904.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4906.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
那我們學校如果目前盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4907.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4909.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
學校的數目夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4913.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4914.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4914.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4916.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
我們目前原則上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4916.87 |
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4917.87 |
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現在我們目前是個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4917.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4919.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
有一個比較具體的是那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4919.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4921.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
高雄桃園區的一個新中國校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4921.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4922.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
不不不 |
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4922.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4924.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
但是整個盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4924.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4926.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
你也都是會朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4926.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4928.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
就是在偏鄉補位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4928.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4929.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
17組都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4930.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4934.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
所以你至少要有17個至20個的學校 |
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4935.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4938.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
你們目前有做盤點的作業了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4938.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4941.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
至於盤點說哪些學校可以事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4941.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4943.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
目前是還沒有完整的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4943.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4948.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
但是應該會有這些教室可以找得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4948.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4951.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
因為現在少子化有很多的都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4951.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4952.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
不不不 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4952.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4953.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
都有一些拆測的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4953.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4954.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4954.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4956.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
你們的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4956.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4958.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
我看你們的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4958.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4960.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
是要廢棄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4960.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4962.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
然後是用學校的專題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4962.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4964.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
不是在既有的學校裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4966.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4968.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
你們是要在既有的學校裡面嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4968.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
4970.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
我們跟既有學校合作跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
4970.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
4972.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
你們是要在既有的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
4972.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
4974.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
原則上會在原鄉地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
4974.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
4976.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
不是獨立的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
4976.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
4978.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
不是不是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
4978.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
4980.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
那不是獨立的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
4980.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
4982.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
跟現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
4982.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
4984.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
我們的新的課綱裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
4984.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
4986.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
其實也本來就有上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
4986.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
4988.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
原住民族的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
4988.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
4990.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
這個基礎的語言的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
4990.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
4992.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
的上課了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
4993.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
4995.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
那你們未來的新住民學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
4995.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
4997.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
跟現在的是有多大的不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
4997.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
4999.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
好這個我請右張會跟委員說明好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
4999.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
5001.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
5004.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
5006.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
好跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
5006.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
5008.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
有關未來原民族學校的想像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
5008.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
5010.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
其實陳農委員剛才所提示的沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
5010.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
5012.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
其實陳農委員剛才所提示的沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
5012.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
5014.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
目前也有四十六所的原住民學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
5014.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
5016.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
那為什麼要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
5016.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
5018.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
你講重點就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
5018.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
5020.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
不要跟我講理論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
5020.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
5022.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
時間沒那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
5022.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
5024.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
就是說未來的民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
5024.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
5026.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
我們希望它是應用我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
5026.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
5028.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
高級中等學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
5028.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
5030.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
委託民間辦學的實驗學校條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
5030.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
5032.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
來跟地方政府合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
5032.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
5034.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
將我們目前在各縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
5034.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
5036.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
政府相關的民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
5036.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
5038.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
實驗學校我們來把它做轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
5038.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
5040.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
就是未來的民族學校會是現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
5040.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
5042.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
實驗學校的2.0版 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
5042.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
5044.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
對嘛是升級嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
5044.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
5046.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
對不對好那再來我問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
5046.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
5048.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
那如果我們的原住民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
5048.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
5050.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
的小朋友我們念 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
5050.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
5052.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
5052.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
5054.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
原住民的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
5054.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
5056.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
未來升學的管道的銜接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
5056.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
5058.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
你們有沒有規劃了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
5058.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
5060.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
其實它現在目前整個學制都跟目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
5060.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
5062.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
的國民教會階段的學制是完全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
5062.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
5064.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
沒有只是它實施的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
5064.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
5066.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
教材會跟一般 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
5066.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
5068.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
108課跟目前的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
5068.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
5070.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
不一樣而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
5070.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
5072.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
它的升學管道完全一模一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
5072.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
5074.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
對不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
5074.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
5076.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
課綱裡面有不一樣嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
5076.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
5078.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
如何跟升學管道的銜接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
5078.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
5080.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
其實它只是課程跟教材的設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
5080.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
5082.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
不同原住民學校希望是透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
5082.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
5084.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
他學習自己的母體文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
5084.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
5086.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
跟他的學科知識做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
5086.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
5088.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
整合來提升他的學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
5088.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
5090.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
的成效所以他基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
5090.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
5092.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
他的整個學習的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
5092.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
5094.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
想法精神都是一樣只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
5094.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
5096.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
課程教材教法不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
5096.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
5098.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
教法不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
5098.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
5100.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
那你們的師資都準備好了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
5100.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
5102.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
師資我們同步有在做培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
5102.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
5104.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
不不不 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
5104.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
5106.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
就是未來 培訓是一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
5106.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
5108.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
準備好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
5108.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
5110.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
這個法案如果通過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
5110.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
5112.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
可能你就馬上要做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
5112.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
5114.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
現在我們的師資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
5114.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
5116.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
都是用現職的教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
5116.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
5118.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
來做我們未來民主學校的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
5118.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
5120.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
師資的最主要來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
5120.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
5122.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
那同步未來的民主學校的正式教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
5122.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
5124.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
他同是我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
5124.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
5126.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
讓他來實施整個民族文化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
5126.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
5128.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
課程的培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
5128.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
5130.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
讓他能夠同時擔任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
5130.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
5132.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
學科跟文化整合的師資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
5134.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
5136.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
聽你們這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
5136.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
5138.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
是有這個目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
5138.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
5140.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
其實還沒有充分準備好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
5140.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
5142.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
我們現在第一所的民主學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
5142.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
5144.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
在8月31日要開辦就是在高雄市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
5144.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
5146.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
的新中國小 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
5146.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
5148.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
那是示範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
5148.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
5150.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
這不是示範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
5150.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
5152.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
這就是第一所推動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
5152.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
5154.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
我剛剛講的是你們17組都要設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
5154.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
5156.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
你就要17個以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
5158.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
5160.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
都準備好了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
5160.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
5162.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
我們要逐年來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
5162.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
5164.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
不是說一次到二十幾所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
5164.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
5166.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
就是我們逐年跟市府的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
5166.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
5168.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
你怎麼可以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
5168.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
5170.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
我們的法令如果通過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
5170.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
5172.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
我們要求你馬上辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
5172.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
5174.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
你現在跟我講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
5174.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
5176.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
逐年來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
5178.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
5180.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
法令如果過是要馬上辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
5180.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
5182.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
就算法令通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
5182.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
5184.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
我們也是沒有辦法說一次全部到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
5184.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
5186.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
我們還是要依據整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
5186.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
5188.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
課程發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
5188.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
5190.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
所以我說你們17個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
5190.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
5192.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
根本完全沒有準備好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
5192.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
5194.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
我們法令通過你跟我講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
5194.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
5196.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
你要逐年推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
5196.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
5198.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
把我們立法委員當什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
5198.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
5200.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
法立法院當什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
5201.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
5203.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
這個不是很好笑的一件事情嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
5205.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
5207.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
5208.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
5210.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
你回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
5210.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
5212.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
我還是覺得說法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
5212.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
5214.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
只是取得一個設這個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
5214.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
5216.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
法院的意趣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
5216.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
5218.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
跟設置的集成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
5218.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
5220.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
話不是這樣講喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
5220.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
5222.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
法律就是讓你要執行就執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
5222.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
5224.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
你不執行就不執行喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
5224.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
5226.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
這很好笑耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
5226.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
5228.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
我覺得啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
5228.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
5230.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
我今天不是要說你們沒有準備好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
5230.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
5232.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
你們沒有準備好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
5232.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
5234.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
本來就是要慢慢準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
5234.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
5236.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
我今天要跟你們探討的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
5236.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
5238.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
問題是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
5238.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
5240.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
如果都還沒有這樣完全準備好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
5240.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
5242.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
如果法令馬上通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
5242.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
5244.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
你們要怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
5244.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
5246.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
你們要去想這個問題而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
5246.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
5248.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
現階段原民會的立場上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
5248.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
5250.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
我們認為說現階段還不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
5250.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
5252.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
訂到法律的這個位階 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
5252.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
5254.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
其實說透過現行的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
5254.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
5256.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
法律規定我們都可以來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
5256.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
5258.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
這樣的一個學校的設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
5258.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
5260.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
所以你的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
5260.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
5262.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
這個法案你不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
5262.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
5264.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
現階段我們還可以再討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
5264.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
5266.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
通過你們就可以執行嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
5266.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
5268.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
反而通過之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
5268.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
5270.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
馬上要全面執行你們做不到嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
5270.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
5272.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
5272.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
5274.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
我要問你的就是這個嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
5274.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
5276.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
好那還有一點情形是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
5276.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
5278.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
不好意思那個張廖市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
5280.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
5282.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
這個原住民學校這樣推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
5282.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
5284.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
那未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
5284.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
5286.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
5286.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
5288.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
我們課委會也要推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
5288.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
5290.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
課與這個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
5290.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
5292.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
那你們教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
5292.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
5294.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
應付的過來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
5294.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
5296.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
有這麼多校舍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
5296.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
5298.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
有這麼多師資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
5298.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
5300.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
我們就看行政院的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
5300.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
5302.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
看政府的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
5302.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
5304.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
如果政府政策要推動我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
5304.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
5306.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
當然教育部的立場就是配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
5306.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
5308.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
做師資培育的相關課程的設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
5308.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
5310.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
人才培育要怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
5310.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
5312.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
來銜接我們大概就配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
5312.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
5314.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
我們現在原民會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
5314.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
5316.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
我們現在是那個一般就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
5316.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
5318.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
實驗學校嘛剛才很多委員問到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
5318.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
5320.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
實驗學校現在在辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
5320.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
5322.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
那他怎麼樣去累積這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
5322.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
5324.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
經驗然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
5324.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
5326.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
各組的族羽的師資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
5326.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
5328.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
還有那些一般 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
5328.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
5330.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
學科的沒有辦法有師資的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
5330.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
5332.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
他用次專長來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
5332.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
5334.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
擔任來轉任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
5334.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
5336.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
等等有很多方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
5336.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
5338.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
要尊重原民會他們的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
5338.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
5340.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
他們也考慮到整個現實的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
5340.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
5342.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
狀況所以在期程的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
5342.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
5344.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
上可能會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
5344.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
5346.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
認為說現在推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
5346.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
5348.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
直接推動原住民學校還不是那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
5348.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
5350.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
成熟好我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
5350.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
5352.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
市長我只是要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
5352.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
5354.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
如果這個有推動過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
5354.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
5356.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
我相信你們可能要準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
5356.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
5358.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
未來的課餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
5358.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
5360.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
這個也可能師資要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
5360.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
5362.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
培養要什麼的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
5362.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
5364.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
都有可能是未來會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
5364.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
5366.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
遇到的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
5366.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
5368.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
這個可能你們也要提早準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
5368.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
5370.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
我們課綱裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
5370.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
5372.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
其實那個本土語言裡面含怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
5372.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
5374.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
很多原住民族課餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
5374.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
5376.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
台語都都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
5376.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
5378.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
現在希拉亞族的師資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
5378.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
5380.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
有培育了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
5380.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
5382.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
還沒嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
5382.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
5384.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
所以我的意思是說這個都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
5384.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
5386.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
很多未來如果這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
5386.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
5388.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
未來有很多事要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
5388.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
5390.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
這種語言文化他本來就需要時間的累積 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
5390.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
5392.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
也要一些時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
5392.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
5394.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
對阿所以我就是要說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
5394.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
5396.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
我們跟原民會都有校正會在做溝通聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
5396.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
5398.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
5398.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
5400.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
最主要是這個啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
5402.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
5404.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
5404.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
5406.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
感謝張鴻路委員執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
5406.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
5408.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
我們這裡有你發財委員執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
5415.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
5417.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
5417.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
5419.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
有請原民會副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
5419.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
5421.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
還有教文處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
5421.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
5423.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
以及教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
5423.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
5425.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
張廖岸兼次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
5425.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
5427.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5427.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
5429.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
5429.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
5431.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
好委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
5431.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
5433.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
今天很高興 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
5433.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
5435.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
因為這一屆原住民族學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
5435.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
5437.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
又開始排審了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
5437.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
5439.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
但是時間已經過了一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
5439.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
5441.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
我簡單講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
5443.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
5445.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
在我們的憲法其實講的很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
5445.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
5447.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
就是國家要積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
5447.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
5449.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
維護原住民族的語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
5449.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
5451.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
及文化的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
5451.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
5453.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
但是我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
5453.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
5455.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
5455.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
5457.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
每一年從蔡英文政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
5457.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
5459.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
到賴清德政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
5459.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
5461.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
特別編列了許多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
5461.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
5463.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
附贈語言文化發展的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
5467.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
5469.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
我們不可否認 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
5469.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
5471.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
原住民的語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
5471.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
5473.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
到底能不能夠保存 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
5473.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
5475.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
這個是一個非常大的問號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
5477.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
5479.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
因此如果沒有透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
5479.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
5481.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
一個學校的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
5483.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
5485.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
完全要透過社會以及家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
5486.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
5488.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
我們想這個目標是完全無法達到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
5490.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
5492.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
5491.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
5493.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
那個時候的原住民族教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
5494.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
5496.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
民國78年三讀定定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
5497.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
5499.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
這個部分就有特別提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
5500.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
5502.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
各級政府要來設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
5502.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
5504.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
各級原住民族學校或 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
5504.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
5506.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
原住民族的教育班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
5509.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
5511.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
我想這個脈絡非常的清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
5512.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
5514.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
那當然我們很清楚知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
5514.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
5516.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
在104年的11月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
5516.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
5518.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
103年的11月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
5518.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
5520.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
實驗三法的通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
5522.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
5524.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
是給了原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
5524.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
5526.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
要發展語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
5526.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
5528.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
文化民族教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
5528.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
5530.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
一個很重要的一個契機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
5531.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
5533.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
但是我們看到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
5533.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
5535.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
雖然有幾十所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
5535.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
5537.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
看起來是各族群遍地開花 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
5539 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
5541 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
可是我們依舊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
5541 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
5543 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
沒有辦法看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
5543 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
5545 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
語言存續的希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
5545.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
5547.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
可是我們很肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
5547.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5549.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
我們這些年走來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
5549.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5551.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
我自己也一直努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
5550.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5552.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
我們的民族教育文化的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5552.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5554.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
確實有在原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
5554.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
5556.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
實驗學校我們有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5556.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5558.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
這樣的一個成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5558.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5560.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
也累積了一定的能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
5561.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
5563.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
所以在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
5562.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5564.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
既然國家給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5564.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5566.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
這樣的一個目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5567.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5569.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
我們也有了原住民族教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5569.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5571.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
來做法源依據要設效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5571.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5573.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
我們來看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5574.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5576.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
科學園區設置管理條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5576.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5578.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
他的法源是來自於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5578.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5580.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
高級中等教育法第十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5581.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
5583.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
所以新竹科學園區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5583.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5585.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
他也可以來申請設效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5587.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5589.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
但是沒有規定他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5589.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5591.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
到底要設幾效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5590.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5592.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
因為有了法源依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5592.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5594.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
你符合資格你就來申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5596.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5598.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
所以像我們的警察大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5598.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5600.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
警察專科學校一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
5600.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
5602.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
他是透過警察法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
5603.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5605.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
來去做設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
5605.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5607.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
所以今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5607.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5609.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
如果我們有了原住民族學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5609.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5611.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
他到底為了要解決什麼問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5611.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5613.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
我想非常的清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5613.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5615.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5615.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5617.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
我們第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
5617.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
5619.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
原住民族委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
5619.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5621.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
到底能不能辦學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5621.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5623.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
次長您告訴我能不能辦學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
5623.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5625.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
當然可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5625.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5627.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
那原民會你們願不願意辦學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5630.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5632.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
當然在這個資源人力是充足的之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5632.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5634.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5634.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5636.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
如果說以現行這樣看是有他的難度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5636.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5638.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
你們也願意辦學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
5638.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
5640.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
你們也有法源依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
5640.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
5642.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
也規定你們應該要辦學校對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
5642.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
5644.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
5644.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
5646.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
那現在問題來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
5646.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
5648.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
我剛剛一直講語言這個東西是跟時間賽跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
5649.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
5651.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
我在15年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
5651.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
5653.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
我在15年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
5654.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
5656.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
如果那個時候可以有原住民族學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
5656.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
5658.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
我們今天應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
5658.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
5660.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
已經可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
5660.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
5662.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
在中華民國有一所學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
5662.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
5664.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
學生畢了業走出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
5664.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
5666.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
每一個都會講族語 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
5667.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
5669.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
我們應該已經可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
5670.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
5672.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
5672.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
5674.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
因為在那個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
5673.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
5675.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
我們在屏東縣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
5675.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
5677.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
我還找得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
5677.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
5681.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
具備非常良好族語能力的教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
5682.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
5684.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
我講的是一般教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
5685.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5687.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
專任教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5687.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5689.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
我至少那個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5689.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5691.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
我們屏東縣還能夠湊個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5691.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5693.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
至少三間學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5694.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5696.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
有足夠的師資量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5696.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5698.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
但是15年之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
5699.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
5701.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
到底能不能湊成一間學校我都不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5702.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5704.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
因為我們想要做的失陪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5705.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5707.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
速度跟不上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5708.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5710.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
但是如果我們15年前就做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5711.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5713.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
我相信這樣的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5713.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5715.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
他已經可以站到教室 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5715.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5717.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
成為一個會講族語的專任教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5718.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5720.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
我講的不是族語教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5721.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5723.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
所以我不知道我們還要等多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5725.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5727.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
如果我們要繼續等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5727.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5729.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
在十年之後不用立這個法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5729.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
5731.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
師資培育也來不及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5732.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5734.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
現場的老師也都全部退休光了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5736.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5738.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
所以我在這個地方要特別的來聲明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5740.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5742.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5741.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5743.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
我們的師資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5743.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5745.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
我們要繼續的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5745.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
5747.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
可是為什麼要有這部法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5747.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5749.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
當年我說我要湊成一間學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5749.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
5751.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
我湊不到因為沒有這個法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5752.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5754.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
我的那些老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5754.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5756.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
他沒有辦法有彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5756.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5758.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
能夠調動借聘到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5758.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5760.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
我們所謂的原住民主學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5763.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5765.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
我部落會講族語的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5765.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5767.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
他人在台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5767.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5769.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
他也沒有辦法有那個彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5769.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5771.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
調回來到這個原住民學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5771.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5773.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
所以為什麼我們要有這個法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5773.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5775.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
沒有這個法我們現行我們做不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5777.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5779.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
那我們的師資有了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5779.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5781.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
我們的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5781.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5783.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
我相信這些年的原住民主實驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5784.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5786.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
教育的能量已經讓大家看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5788.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5790.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
大家一直很擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5790.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5792.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
讀這個學校學生會不會不能銜接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5794.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5796.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
學習失敗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5798.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5800.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
我們做這個課程改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5800.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5802.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
就是因為要呼應我們要解職 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5802.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5804.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
今天我們的原住民的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5804.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5806.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
他所上的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5806.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5808.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
他所讀的教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5808.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5810.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
沒有依據他的文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5813.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5815.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
我們再依據別人的文化主體來學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5817.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5819.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
但是這幾年實驗學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5819.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5821.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
我們發展的課程教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5821.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5823.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
我們發現我們依據國家的課綱 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5823.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5825.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
但是我們以他的族群為本位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5825.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5827.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
我們發現孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5827.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5829.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
他很樂意學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5832.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5834.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
他很容易懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5834.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5836.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
他的文化回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5836.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5838.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
他知道他是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5838.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5840.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
他現在讀的是在跟客家文化對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5840.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5842.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
跟漢人文化對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5842.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5844.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
跟國外的文化在對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5844.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5846.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
他知道他從自己的文化出發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5850.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5852.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
他有那樣的文化脈絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5852.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5854.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
他樂意學他容易懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5854.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5856.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
很自然他的學習成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5856.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5858.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
是提升的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5858.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5860.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
甚至他的課程回家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5860.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5862.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
是可以跟我們做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5862.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5864.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
代歼學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5864.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5866.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
他的祖父母是可以跟他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5866.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5868.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
一起做共學討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5868.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5870.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
所以我在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5870.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
5872.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
我必須要去做這樣的一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
5872.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
5874.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
但是我們需要一部法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
5874.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
5876.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
來支撐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
5876.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
5878.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
因為我們的整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
5878.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
5880.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
學校的師資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
5880.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
5882.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
我們的課程的培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
5882.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
5884.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
我們需要這一部法來支撐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
5884.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
5886.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
甚至像我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
5886.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
5888.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
在一些上次的公聽會提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
5888.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
5890.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
像花蓮的Tamaro族羽學員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
5894.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
5896.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
他們的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
5896.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
5898.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
從幼兒園銜接到國小 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
5898.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
5900.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
他們是非學形態 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
5900.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
5902.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
用實驗三法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
5902.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
5904.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
可是他們的孩子畢了業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
5904.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
5906.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
都會講族羽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
5907.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
5909.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
我們在高中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
5909.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
5911.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
有一個基隆的巴多高中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
5911.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
5913.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
他們很想接住 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
5913.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
5915.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
這樣的學生到他們的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
5915.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
5917.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
因為他們巴多高中的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
5917.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
5919.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
80%都能夠通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
5920.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
5922.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
中高級的族羽認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
5922.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
5924.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
所以原住民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
5926.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
5928.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
他不見得會很多間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
5928.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
5930.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
但是他必須跟時間賽跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
5931.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
5933.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
要不然原住民的語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
5934.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
5936.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
我認為十年之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
5936.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
5938.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
我們再也沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
5938.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
5940.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
找到任何可以去延續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
5940.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
5942.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
一個附贈點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
5942.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
5944.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
我們充其量只能夠透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
5944.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
5946.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
這些教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
5946.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
5948.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
我們去認識我們的民族教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
5948.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
5950.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
知道我們的文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
5950.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
5952.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
但是我們的語言恐怕接不起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
5952.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
5954.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
所以在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
5954.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
5956.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
我希望在一個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
5956.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
5958.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
針對這一些爭點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
5958.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
5960.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
跟地方政府的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
5960.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
5962.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
一個溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
5962.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
5964.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
我希望我們教育部跟原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
5964.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
5966.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
一個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
5966.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
5968.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
我強調一個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
5968.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
5970.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
我們是在跟時間賽跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
5970.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
5972.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
可以去盤點我剛才所講的這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
5972.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
5974.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
提出一個書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
5974.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
5976.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
還有我們目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
5976.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
5978.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
這些所有委員的草案版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
5978.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
5980.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
去做一個比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
5980.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
5982.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
跟修法的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
5982.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
5984.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
所以今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
5984.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
5986.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
我們排這個原住民族學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
5986.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
5988.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
開始審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
5988.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
5990.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
這是這一屆第一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
5990.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
5992.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
我們要了之 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
5992.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
5994.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
因為沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
5994.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
5996.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
我也坦承沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
5996.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
5998.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
但是我要再強調一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
5998.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
6000.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
原住民的語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
5999.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
6001.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
原住民族的語言跟文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
6001.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
6003.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
是在跟時間賽跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
6004.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
6006.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
而且能做一間就做一間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
6006.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
6008.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
但是需要一部法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
6008.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
6010.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
來支撐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
6010.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
6012.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
讓我們能夠建立起 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
6012.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
6014.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
這樣能夠純粹語言文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
6014.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
6016.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
提升學習成效的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
6016.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
6018.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
這樣的一個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
6018.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
6020.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
那我不曉得原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
6020.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
6022.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
我針對這樣一個月內的要求可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
6022.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
6024.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
可以我們會按照委員剛剛所提點的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
6024.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
6026.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
不管是這個法律的檢視上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
6026.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
6028.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
各版本的比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
6028.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
6030.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
修法的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
6030.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
6032.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
我們應該怎麼樣去克服 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
6032.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
6034.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
我們應該要在一個月內給委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
6034.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
6036.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
謝謝委員指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
6036.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
6038.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
我們就配合原民會的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
6038.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
6040.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
我們會全力配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
6040.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
6042.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
你們會有一個平台討論嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
6042.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
6044.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
有我們本來就有一個平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
6044.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
6046.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
一個月內的話你們會有平台可以討論嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
6046.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
6048.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
我們可以為了這個在這個會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
6048.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
6050.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
6050.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
6052.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
6052.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
6054.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
6054.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
6056.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
感謝五立法會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
6056.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
6058.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
質詢我們這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
6058.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
6060.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
不需要委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
6063.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
6064.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
6069.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
6071.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
6071.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
6073.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
也謝謝代理主席辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
6073.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
6075.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
有請張廖次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
6075.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
6077.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
有請張廖次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
6079.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
6081.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
6081.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
6083.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
次長早安大家辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
6083.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
6085.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
今天我會聚焦在台北市的教育現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
6085.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
6087.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
一連串的出大包的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
6087.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
6089.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
教育部作為督導的機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
6089.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
6091.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
怎麼樣能夠來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
6091.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
6093.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
或是如何來提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
6093.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
6095.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
必要的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
6095.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
6097.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
的一些處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
6097.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
6099.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
6100.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
6102.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
第一個當然是營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
6103.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
6105.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
營養午餐免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
6105.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
6107.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
下學期才要上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
6107.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
6109.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
但是當我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
6109.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
6111.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
縣市首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
6111.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
6113.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
尤其蔣萬安市長一再的吹噓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
6113.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
6115.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
營養午餐免費免費免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
6115.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
6117.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
但是事實上證明免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
6117.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
6119.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
不是唯一的王道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
6119.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
6121.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
甚至會因為過度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
6121.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
6123.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
吹捧免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
6123.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
6125.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
而造成了其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
6125.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
6127.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
骨牌效應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
6127.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
6129.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
現在就一一發生了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
6129.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
6131.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
台北市的營養午餐出了大包 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
6131.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
6133.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
好幾件事我認為都環環相扣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
6135.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
6137.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
第一個呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
6137.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
6139.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
蔣萬安市長一再的吹捧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
6139.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
6141.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
生生喝鮮奶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
6141.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
6143.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
週周喝鮮奶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
6143.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
6145.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
但現在天天的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
6145.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
6147.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
卻要斷吹了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
6147.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
6149.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
有十一萬五千的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
6150.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
6152.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
台北市的學生們 |
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6152.97 |
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6154.97 |
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有可能因為營養午餐的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
6154.97 |
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6156.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
流標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
6156.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
6158.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
而吃不到營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
6159.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
6161.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
第二個呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
6161.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
6163.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
甚至又爆出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
6163.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
6165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
蔣萬安市長不斷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
6165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
6167.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
去要求教育局趕快去克服 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
6167.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
6169.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
把流標的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
6169.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
6171.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
解決聽說現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
6171.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
6173.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
想方設法已經流標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
6173.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
6175.04 |
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從六成現在OK |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
6175.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
6177.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
可以補到九成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
6177.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
6179.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
就是大概一成的學校還 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
6179.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
6181.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
還沒有處理完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
6181.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
6183.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
那他下的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
6183.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
6185.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
點期限是八月二十一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
6185.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
6187.04 |
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當然要快啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
6187.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
6189.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
因為新學習就要開始了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
6189.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
6191.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
最後才在這裡急就張的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
6191.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
6193.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
想要擦屁股 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
6193.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
6195.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
我認為對於台北市的營養午餐的品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
6195.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
6197.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
恐怕就會產生一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
6197.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
6199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
很大的疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
6200.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
6202.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
第三個呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
6202.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
6204.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
又發生了要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
6204.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
6206.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
廠商先電款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
6206.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
6208.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
然後廠商已經都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
6208.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
6210.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
沒有意願來招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
6210.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
6212.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
又要要求廠商標到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
6212.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
6214.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
先電款這恐怕就是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
6214.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
6216.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
惡性循環 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
6216.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
6218.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
當然還發生了教育局長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
6218.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
6220.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
營養午餐的剩食 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
6220.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
6222.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
6222.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
6224.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
廚餘可以給弱勢吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
6225.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
6227.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
我認為這就是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
6227.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
6229.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
急切的把對於營養午餐的關切 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
6229.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
6231.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
應當關切在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
6231.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
6233.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
他的食材是不是落實到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
6233.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
6235.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
百分之百MIT |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
6235.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
6237.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
中央的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
6237.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
6239.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
是不是吃的健康吃的安全吃的營養 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
6239.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
6241.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
甚至吃的有文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
6242.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
6244.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
結合我們的食農教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
6244.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
6246.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
在地的文化這才是營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
6246.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
6248.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
藉由飲食來達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
6248.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
6250.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
教育的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
6250.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
6252.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
這才是營養午餐該關切的面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
6252.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
6254.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
6254.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
6256.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
像蔣萬安在內的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
6256.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
6258.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
首長們一再的操作免費免費免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
6258.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
6260.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
所以出了這麼多問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
6260.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
6262.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
教育部有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
6262.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
6264.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
6264.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
6266.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
有沒有協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
6266.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
6268.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
我想我們目前也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
6268.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
6270.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
注意這個事情因為那個裁判法之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
6270.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
6272.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
我們過去是透過很多專案來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
6272.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
6274.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
地方營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
6274.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
6276.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
參與補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
6276.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
6278.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
那現在我們過去是透過一般性的補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
6278.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
6280.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
那現在裁判法後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
6280.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
6282.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
其實地方有了錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
6282.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
6284.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
都自己宣布說要辦營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
6284.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
6286.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
那當然委員剛才所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
6286.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
6288.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
這些我們也都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
6288.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
6290.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
報章媒體以及地方的管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
6290.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
6292.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
我也接到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
6292.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
6294.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
中央有 北市有沒有來求助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
6294.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
6296.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
有沒有來反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
6296.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
6298.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
還是蔣萬安認為他可以搞定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
6298.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
6300.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
我們有調查各縣市的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
6300.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
6302.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
就是委員關心的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
6302.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
6304.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
他們這個照標的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
6304.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
6306.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
6306.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
6308.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
那台北市發生了之前是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
6308.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
6310.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
六成標不出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
6310.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
6312.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
他們是希望二十一號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
6312.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
6314.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
完成我知道但目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
6314.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
6316.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
還沒有完成蔣萬安說的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
6316.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
6318.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
八月二十一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
6318.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
6320.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
但目前還沒有交標完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
6320.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
6322.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
就還是有一成左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
6322.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
6324.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
6324.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
6326.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
我們有調查二十二縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
6326.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
6328.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
整體標案的進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
6328.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
6330.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
那因為像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
6330.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
6332.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
學生的營養午餐其實是非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
6332.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
6334.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
而且台北市來看的話他們還有局部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
6334.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
6336.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
沒有完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
6336.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
6338.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
但是應該他們會在二十七號以前完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
6338.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
6340.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
那其他縣市有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
6340.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
6342.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
流標狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
6342.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
6344.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
多數縣市告訴我們應該都是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
6344.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
6346.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
最近會完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
6346.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
6348.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
那最慢的應該也是可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
6348.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
6350.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
大約就是二十七號左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
6350.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
6352.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
所以其他縣市也 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
6352.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
6354.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
都有發生沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
6354.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
6356.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
交標完成的狀況嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
6356.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
6358.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
比較嚴重的如台北市的還有其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
6358.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
6360.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
哪些縣市沒有完成大部分都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
6360.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
6362.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
局部的學校局部的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
6362.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
6364.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
確實有局部的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
6364.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
6366.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
把資料完整提供給本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
6366.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
6368.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
6368.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
6370.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
台北市的市議員們監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
6370.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
6372.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
非常的嚴謹用心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
6372.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
6374.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
所以這些資訊是透過議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
6374.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
6376.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
在議會質詢才被 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
6376.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
6378.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
踢爆的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
6378.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
6380.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
我也很擔心教育部你們的普查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
6380.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
6382.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
那掌握的是局部學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
6382.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
6384.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
我認為要更細緻的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
6384.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
6386.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
而中央能夠幫忙就幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
6386.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
6388.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
我想幫助學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
6388.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
6390.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
吃的健康吃的營養 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
6390.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
6392.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
我們中央洗手能協助就協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
6392.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
6394.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
但是也告訴我們一個警訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
6394.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
6396.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
免費不是王道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
6396.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
6398.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
該做的行政流程相關的配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
6398.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
6400.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
都是重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
6400.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
6402.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
好下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
6402.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
6404.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
另外同樣我因為選區在台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
6404.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
6406.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
開學在即 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
6406.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
6408.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
台北市仍有309個代理教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
6408.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
6410.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
是缺額的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
6411.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
6413.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
那地方政府到目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
6413.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
6415.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
似乎也拿不出更具體的對策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
6415.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
6417.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
我想請你們說一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
6417.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
6419.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
中央地方各有權限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
6419.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
6421.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
但是我很開心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
6421.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
6423.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
經過我們共同努力的爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
6423.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
6425.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
在偏鄉的代理教師的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
6425.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
6427.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
強化留任偏鄉教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
6427.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
6429.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
的久任獎金已經上路了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
6429.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
6431.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
6431.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
6433.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
所以這對於偏鄉的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
6433.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
6435.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
的留任應當有相對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
6435.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
6437.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
高的誘因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
6437.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
6439.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
那一個新的制度我就想了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
6439.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
6441.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
我們要修訂公立學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
6441.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
6443.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
教師獎金的發計辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
6443.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
6445.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
針對資深 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
6445.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
6447.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
而且優良的教師提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
6447.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
6449.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
他的獎金因為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
6449.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
6451.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
已經35年未調了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
6451.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
6453.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
從民國80年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
6453.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
6455.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
到現在將近35年沒有調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
6455.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
6457.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
的資深優良教師的獎金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
6457.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
6459.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
你們什麼時候會上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
6461.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
6463.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
這個已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
6463.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
6465.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
你們現在研議中嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
6465.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
6467.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
我知道你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
6467.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
6469.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
那目標什麼時候可以上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
6470.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
6472.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
明年上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
6472.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
6474.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
我們已經其實內部已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
6474.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
6476.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
簽合方案出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
6476.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
6478.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
但是要送行政院核定有關獎金的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
6478.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
6480.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
那我們就是越快越好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
6480.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
6482.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
對預定明年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
6482.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
6484.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
因為偏鄉是一塊我們解決了偏鄉的人力荒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
6484.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
6486.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
但是對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
6486.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
6488.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
一般的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
6488.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
6490.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
久任的資深的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
6490.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
6492.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
獎金而且我要強調這個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
6492.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
6494.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
是35年沒有調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
6494.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
6496.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
我們已經把它編在明年的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
6496.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6498.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
好已經編到明年的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6498.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6500.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
所以我就是期待立法院不要再擋預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6500.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6502.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
可以把教師的福祉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6502.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6504.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
真的能夠讓老師來享得獲得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6504.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6506.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
另外一個實習的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6506.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6508.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
老師實習的獎金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6508.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6510.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
備番嘛也已經上路了對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6510.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6512.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
對今年8月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6512.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6514.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
已經上路了嘛所以我們有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6514.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6516.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
幾個政策工具針對新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6516.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6518.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
老師實習的老師我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6518.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6520.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
給予招募新寫給予 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6520.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6522.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
誘因已經上路的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6522.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6524.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
實習獎金備番了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6524.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6526.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
然後偏鄉教師代理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6526.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6528.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
教師的久任獎金也已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6528.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6530.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
上路了然後新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6530.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6532.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
針對全面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6532.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6534.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
資深優良教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6534.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6536.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
要能夠明年1月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6536.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6538.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
明年1月1號是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6538.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6540.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
對好那我希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6540.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6542.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
中央能做的因為我們畢竟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6542.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6544.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
是全國性的我們就努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6544.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6546.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
來做但是我也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6546.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6548.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
你們所謂的公立學校教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6548.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6550.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
獎金的發起辦法的修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6550.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6552.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
當中你們是不低於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6553.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6555.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
也就是說授予地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6555.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6557.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
政府依他的財政 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6557.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6559.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
狀況可以給予 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6559.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6561.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
不低於你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6561.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6563.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
訂的這個倍數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6564.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6566.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
的獎金地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6566.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6568.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
基本上中央政府教育部是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6568.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6570.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
鼓勵鼓勵鼓勵他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6570.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6572.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
可以給的更多來留下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6572.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6574.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
老師是不是這樣是好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6574.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6576.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
那我期待你們把這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6576.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6578.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
一個子法的修訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6578.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6580.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
第一個加速完備加速完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6580.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6582.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
明年上路而且去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6582.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6584.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
具體的督導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6584.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6586.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
我們的用心良苦嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6586.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6588.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
不低於這個獎金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6588.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6590.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
地方政府自己可以加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6590.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6592.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
我想強化跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6592.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6594.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
政府的一個溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6594.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6596.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
給予他們這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6596.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6598.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
一個鼓勵好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6598.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6600.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
然後剛剛回到最前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6600.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6602.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
營養午餐就要開學了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6602.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6604.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
我們還可以繼續我是很擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6604.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6606.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
剛剛因為我手上沒有你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6606.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6608.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
最新的資料我服務台北 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6608.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6610.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
我會給我我真的要提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6610.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6612.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
你們看到的資訊可能是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6612.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6614.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
部分學校沒有完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6614.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6616.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6616.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6618.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
一所也不行啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6620.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6622.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
就算是一個學生兩個學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6622.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6624.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
十個學生像台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6624.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6626.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
可能是十億萬的學生受到影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6626.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6628.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
一個都不能發生啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6629.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6631.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
所以呢數字冷冰冰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6631.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6633.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
你們的會診也許會有gap |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6633.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6635.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
會有資訊的落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6635.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6637.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
全力的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6637.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6639.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
第一線清楚的講過狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6639.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6641.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
我們不能夠讓任何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6641.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6643.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
一個孩子受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6643.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6645.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
這樣子吃不到營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6645.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6647.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
的這個嚴重的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6647.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6649.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
我們開學前會每天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6649.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6651.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
會多保持聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6651.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6653.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
了解那個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6653.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6655.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
然後需要資料我們馬上回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
6655.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6657.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
好那您剛剛手上的資料是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6657.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6659.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
然後就可以先提供等一下就先一份給我好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6659.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6661.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
好謝謝次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6661.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6663.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6663.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6665.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
謝謝巫思耀委員的質詢請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6665.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6667.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
回座接下來有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6667.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6669.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
鄭正前委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6669.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6671.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
鄭正前委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6671.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6673.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
鄭正前委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6673.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6675.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
接下來有請中嘉賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6675.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6677.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
委員進行巡答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6677.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6679.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
稍後在蔡春筹委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6679.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6681.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
巡答完畢之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6681.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6683.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
我們休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6696.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6698.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
主席 家長 委員 縣經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6698.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6700.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
列席的眾議院 官員 會長 公民夥伴 媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6700.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6702.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
記者 女士 先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6702.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6704.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
有請教育部張廖次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6704.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6706.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
還有法治處的鄭處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6707.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6709.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
國教院的郭副院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6709.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6711.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
還有原民會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6711.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6713.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
杜彰梅莊副主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6713.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6715.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
好請以上官員上備訓台請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6715.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6717.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
好委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6718.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6720.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
好 次長好 副主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
6720.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6722.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
還有處長跟副院長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6722.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6724.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
今天我們在討論的呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6724.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
6726.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
6726.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
6728.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
原住民族學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
6728.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
6730.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
好那請問一下次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6730.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6732.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
你認為原住民族學校的目的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
6733.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
6737.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
目的就是讓原住民族能夠建立自主的知識體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
6737.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
6739.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
成立一貫的他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
6739.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
6743.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
符合他們文化的知識學習的一個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
6743.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
6747.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
本席在2016年跟你一樣進入的立法院之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6747.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6751.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
我在教文會我也推動了原住民族教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
6751.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
6753.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
那後來在2020年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
6753.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
6757.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
我們的召委 吳立華委員進入之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
6757.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
6759.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
他也推動了原住民族學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
6759.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
6761.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
教育法通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
6761.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
6763.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
但是學校法還在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
6763.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
6765.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
請教一下我們的杜章副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
6765.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
6767.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
請問原住民族學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
6767.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
6771.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
有沒有分三地原住民族學校跟平地原住民學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
6773.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
6775.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
目前沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
6775.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
6777.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
可是我們憲法來我們看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
6777.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
6779.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
憲法就寫得很清楚啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
6779.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
6781.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
我們憲法寫說什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
6781.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
6783.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
寫說要分成平地原住民跟三地原住民啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
6783.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
6785.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
那憲法是我國最高的母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
6785.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
6787.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
那現在我們原住民族學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
6787.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
6789.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
為什麼不會做這個區分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
6789.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
6791.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
副主委你認為什麼原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
6793.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
6795.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
因為這個憲法當時設計的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
6795.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
6797.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
有他的時代背景 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
6797.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
6799.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
現在是一個多元族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
6799.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
6801.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
慢慢的也有平埔族群在加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
6801.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
6803.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
原住民事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
6803.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
6805.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
他在整體的政策上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
6805.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
6807.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
應該會盡可能才一致性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
6807.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
6809.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
所以原住民族學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
6809.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
6811.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
傳承的是原住民的文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
6811.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
6813.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
原住民文化有分三元跟平元嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
6816.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
6818.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
各族群有各族群的文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
6818.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
6820.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
不是用三元平元來分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
6820.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
6822.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
那你覺得應該用什麼來分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
6823.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
6825.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
我決定應該回歸到各個族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
6825.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
6827.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
是的回歸到各個族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
6827.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
6829.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
那憲法有沒有相關的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
6830.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
6832.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
來我給你看一下憲法的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
6832.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
6834.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
下一張 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
6834.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
6836.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
再下一張 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
6837.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
6840.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
中華民國憲法增修條文第十條基本國策第十一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
6840.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
6845.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
國家肯定多元化應積極維護發展原住民族語言及文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
6845.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
6846.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
6846.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
6848.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
而且國家因原住民的意願 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
6848.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
6851.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
保障原住民族的地位與政治參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
6851.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
6855.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
所以其實次長也好副主委也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
6855.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
6858.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
我們今天在討論原住民族學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
6858.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
6863.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
就是要依循憲法增修條文第十條基本國策的第十一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
6863.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
6867.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
所以我們要積極維護發展原住民族的語言跟文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
6867.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
6868.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
6868.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
6870.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
是的請問你們兩位跟我分別說一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
6870.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
6873.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
這個憲法裡面有沒有說三元跟平原 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
6873.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
6874.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
6874.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
6875.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
6875.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
6878.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
所以你們未來在這個學校法也不會是這樣區分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
6878.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
6882.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
那請問我們請問一下國教院的副院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
6884.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
6888.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
那請問站在教育的宗旨你認為未來原住民的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
6888.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
6891.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
應該依照什麼樣的方式來設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
6891.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
6895.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
跟委員報告因為我們目前國家也啟動一個相關的研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
6895.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
6901.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
那大概在明年五月份大概針對師資還有設立的整個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
6901.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
6903.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
的部分會有比較明確的答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
6903.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
6908.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
那你們會不會向我們的選罷法或我們的這個增修條文說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
6908.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
6911.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
每一組都要設立一所原住民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
6912.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
6915.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
我們目前國家目前的研究還沒有這樣的顯示 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
6915.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
6916.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
那可能要看一下政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
6916.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
6920.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
為什麼政治上我們的選區一定要分得那麼清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
6920.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
6924.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
然後在我們目前來那個我來請教一下法治處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
6924.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
6927.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
這個比較偏遠比較遠一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
6927.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
6929.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
請問目前我們原住民族有幾族 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
6930.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
6931.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
6931.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
6932.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
6933.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
6935.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
剛有人說16次長說16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
6935.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
6936.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
16加1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
6936.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
6938.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
對啦16加1很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
6938.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
6941.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
那是不是未來要設17或16加1所學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
6941.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
6943.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
次長那個副主委你認為有沒有必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
6945.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
6949.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
是希望未來是各個民族他都有自己的一個民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
6949.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
6950.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
6950.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
6951.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
6951.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
6954.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
那你會不會認為在文化之外我們在政治上的安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
6954.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
6958.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
參政權的安排也要依照這樣的每一個族 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
6958.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
6960.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
都有他自己的相對應的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
6961.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
6962.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
你會不會主張這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
6963.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
6965.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
這個我還沒有想過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
6965.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
6966.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
還沒仔細想過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
6966.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
6969.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
好其實我今天在這裡藉用這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
6969.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
6973.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
本席在2016年在教文會我們提倡了原住民族教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
6973.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
6975.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
在2020年之後繼吳立華委員之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
6975.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
6977.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
我們提倡了原住民族學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
6977.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
6980.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
但是當我們現在遇到的台灣的政治環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
6980.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
6987.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
結果我們看到最口口聲聲說要去倡議保障我們原住民族文化的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
6988.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
6992.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
在野黨的委員他們卻忽略了我們憲法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
6993.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
6995.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
徵修條文第十條的最高位階 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
6995.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
6999.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
原住民的整體的文化跟語言要予以保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
6999.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
7004.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
那次長同不同意這必然的要透過原住民族學校法來加以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
7004.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
7006.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
保障跟發揚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
7006.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
7010.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
那你也不認為這個過程當中要誤錯誤的沿用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
7010.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
7016.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
過去國民黨會權統治時期將原住民族群區分成三元跟平原的方式來分別設定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
7016.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
7018.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
對的確是應該以族群為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
7018.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
7022.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
好所以你會支持我們國家院公支持我們原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
7022.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
7028.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
未來盡可能的讓每一個族群原住民的每一個族群都擁有自己的原住民族學校是不是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
7028.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
7030.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
政策方向如果是這樣我們是配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
7030.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
7034.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
好謝謝次長謝謝副主委謝謝院長謝謝我們的處長謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
7036.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
7040.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
好謝謝鍾嘉賓委員的質詢請官員們回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
7040.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
7044.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
接下來有請蔡春筹委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
7062.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
7064.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
主席好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
7065.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
7069.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
主席好我們請原民會的副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
7070.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
7072.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
好有請杜章副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
7075.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
7076.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
7076.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
7078.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
副主委你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
7079.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
7090.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
在這裡呢要請教副主委在這一次的一個原住民民族學校法已經有很多位的原住民委員提出一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
7090.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
7097.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
那教育部呢也跟原民會也都表達要支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
7097.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
7102.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
那那個制定這個專法已經有相當的一個共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
7102.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
7105.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
那本身也支持這樣的一個立法的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
7105.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
7109.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
那至於各版本的主管機關還有自己的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
7109.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
7119.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
設計的自對設計上的差異呢我們也都能夠都能夠來尊重各體案來做一個窗戶的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
7119.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
7129.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
那在這裡呢要請教就是原民會呢已經提出既有學校一個轉型公辦民營還有一族一民主學校的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
7129.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
7136.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
那專法完成以後呢政府準備如何一個民主意願分階段來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
7136.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
7141.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
那目前呢會最優先來完成哪一些準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
7144.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
7151.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
現在我們目前的進度是在做課程跟教材的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
7151.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
7153.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
那是真的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
7155.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
7159.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
但私自培育的部分我們也是跟那個教育部這邊也給他們相關的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
7159.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
7163.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
那我們會裡面再做課程跟這個教材的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
7165.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
7169.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
現在是課程你們那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
7169.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
7175.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
原民會跟教育部是如何分工你剛剛在說的部分好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
7175.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
7178.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
在私自培育上面是以教育部為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
7178.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
7185.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
當然我們會給他們很多的意見跟專家學者的一些提供相關的意見給教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
7185.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
7191.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
那我們的部分在這個課程教材的這個研發跟他的制定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
7191.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
7192.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
喔好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
7192.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
7193.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
7193.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
7196.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
那因為呢你剛剛也有講了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
7196.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
7200.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
私自的部分是由教育部來主責啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
7200.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
7204.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
那學生的一個課程呢是由原民會這邊來主責是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
7204.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
7210.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
是課程的這個課綱或課程的這個研發是我們來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
7210.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
7212.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
你們處理的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
7215.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
7217.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
7217.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
7219.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
7220.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
7222.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
原民會這個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
7222.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
7225.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
從實驗教育走向原住民民主學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
7225.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
7228.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
還有私資課程行政跟裁員都要跟上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
7228.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
7236.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
那請原民會呢來說明從原民會的前者出發準備如何跟教育部還有地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
7236.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
7240.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
學校協作將制度順利銜接這個部分有做了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
7240.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
7243.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
好這我請那個我們業務單位跟說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
7245.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
7249.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
喔謝謝委員指教有關整個民主學校的推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
7249.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
7251.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
目前我們是依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
7251.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
7258.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
我們教育部所訂班的委託民間辦理實驗教育條例這樣的規定來跟地方政府合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
7258.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
7262.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
由我們委託財長法人員住民文化事業基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
7262.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
7265.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
來跟地方政府提出申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
7265.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
7267.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
那地方政府會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
7267.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
7272.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
如果他有意配合意願的話會指定他所配合的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
7272.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
7275.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
然後由我們來接辦這樣的一個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
7275.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
7278.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
然後開始順利來推動整個民主學校的設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
7279.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
7283.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
所以這個民主學校的設立還是要跟地方的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
7283.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
7287.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
對我們現在的制度是透過實驗教育條例來跟地方政府合作來共同推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
7287.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
7292.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
這樣是最節省經費也是最快能夠上路的一種方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
7292.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
7298.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
這樣我感覺教育部還是有比較完全的主導的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
7298.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
7301.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
當然在教育主管機關的立場上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
7301.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
7305.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
教育部還是可以協助我們來跟地方政府來做協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
7305.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
7309.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
讓地方政府能夠很順利來跟研民會一起合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
7309.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
7312.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
但是呢主管機關還是研民會嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
7312.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
7315.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
這個計畫是目前由研民會來主責 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
7315.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
7318.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
好我感覺好像還沒有準備得很完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
7318.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
7327.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
其實我們第一所的民主學校在今年的8月30日要在高雄市正式推開啟動了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
7327.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
7329.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
現在才開始要啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
7329.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
7334.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
今年第一所我們第一所的民主學校在8月30日要正式開學了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
7336.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
7342.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
好這個我們先提出來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
7342.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
7344.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
因為剛開始嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
7344.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
7347.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
那現在這個學校目前是小學還是國中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
7347.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
7349.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
目前是小學還有幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
7349.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
7350.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
7350.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
7351.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
然後未來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
7351.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
7354.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
我們希望他們能夠銜接到國中高中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
7354.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
7356.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
他是一個12年一貫的一個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
7356.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
7362.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
所以未來呢他們轉銜到國中的時候也是民主學校嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
7362.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
7363.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
7363.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
7365.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
未來還是會一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
7365.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
7368.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
所以這一批會慢慢升到國中的第一屆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
7368.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
7369.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
7369.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
7376.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
OK好那我們希望整個轉銜都能夠這個制度上能夠很完善 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
7376.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
7379.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
包括國中完之後呢直升到高中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
7379.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
7386.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
這個轉銜都一定要一併的來把它做一個很完整的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
7386.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
7389.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
謝謝你協委員知道我明天會朝這個方向來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
7389.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
7394.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
好那最後呢有關一個不是屬於教育的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
7394.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
7400.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
來請教嚴明慧因為本黨對於這個計畫補償的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
7401.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
7404.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
這個制度呢相當關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
7404.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
7410.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
那我利用這個時間呢要來請教嚴明慧對於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
7411.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
7413.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
計畫補償的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
7415.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
7422.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
來請問一下喔116年度呢有沒有編這個預算出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
7422.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
7423.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
7423.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
7426.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
那你這個預算是個別的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
7426.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
7430.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
也是編在年度預算跟新的一陣取的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
7430.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
7434.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
就是針對進華的這個預算嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
7434.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
7437.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
是針對進華的一個專 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
7437.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
7438.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
7438.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
7443.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
那有沒有排除到那個低收入戶跟低中收入戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
7443.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
7445.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
中低收入戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
7445.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
7447.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
這陣子有人反應這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
7447.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
7448.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
我們事實上也在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
7448.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
7452.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
但是因為那個中低收入戶是涉及到衛福部他們的認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
7452.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
7454.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
所以這個是需要協調的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
7454.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
7460.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
那我們希望說陳明慧能夠盡量幫這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
7460.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
7465.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
中低收入戶的一個潛力呢能夠來跟衛福部做一個協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
7465.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
7467.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
然後為他們爭取一些福利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
7467.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
7468.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
7468.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
7471.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
那最後我們請教育部張市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
7475.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
7476.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
好委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
7476.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
7477.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
好 市長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
7480.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
7484.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
我們要請教育部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
7484.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
7488.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
原住民學校它是要有不同類型的師資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
7488.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
7490.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
還有教學人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
7490.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
7496.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
那未來在尊重民主教育的一個需求的同時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
7496.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
7499.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
如何來兼顧教師的一個專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
7499.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
7502.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
還有限職人員的一個潛力跟師資的一個穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
7502.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
7506.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
在私培的部分請教育部來做一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
7506.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
7509.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
好 依照原教法我們27條第二項的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
7509.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
7512.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
那原民會會訂定民主教育課程內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
7512.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
7514.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
那我們會負責師資的培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
7514.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
7518.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
那我們在這幾年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
7518.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
7521.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
包括透過那個次專長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
7521.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
7523.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
就是一般學科的那個次專長的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
7523.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
7525.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
之前培育的課程等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
7525.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
7528.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
我們會有一些相關的這個課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
7528.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
7529.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
有九個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
7529.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
7531.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
那我們請那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
7532.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
7533.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
副市長來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
7533.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
7535.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
我們請那個副主委先進回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
7535.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
7536.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
副市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
7536.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
7538.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
是 報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
7538.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
7540.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
針對師資培育的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
7540.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
7542.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
除了原住民族與師資的培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
7542.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
7544.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
依照課綱去培育之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
7544.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
7546.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
未來配合原住民學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
7546.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
7551.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
我們會把原民會所建立的知識架構的內涵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
7551.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
7555.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
納入我們師資培育民族教育次專長的內涵裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
7555.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
7558.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
那目前本來次專長的課程架構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
7558.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
7561.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
就有在我們師培學校裡面去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
7561.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
7565.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
那包括在職的部分也會跟原民會一起合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
7565.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
7567.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
對在職老師做訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
7567.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
7572.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
那未來如果原住民學校有確定成立的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
7572.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
7576.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
他的師資其實可以由我們這邊去做培育之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
7576.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
7579.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
做一定程度的轉任跟轉換以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
7579.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
7581.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
好 那我再請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
7581.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
7584.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
那如果是原先是原住民的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
7584.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
7586.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
或是他已經是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
7586.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
7588.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
是有那個老師的資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
7588.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
7592.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
有沒有優先來培育這些原住民的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
7592.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
7595.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
未來可能就能夠投入到原住民學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
7595.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
7598.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
有沒有這樣的一個計畫或者是打算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
7598.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
7601.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
我們這部分如果原民會這邊有計畫我們會協助 |
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那現在是不是要先由原民會來提出計畫嗎 |
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再跟委員報告 |
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其實目前原住民學生也是在我們師資生裡面的培育的行列裡面 |
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通常我們都是用外加名額去支給 |
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是 有沒有多鼓勵他們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
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未來可以回到原鄉來做一個 |
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有 有 有 |
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就是目前透過公費生的制度其實都是對接原鄉的 |
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因為最主要是通過 |
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因為那個他們的一個課程的一個自主 |
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7632.66 |
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有很多是屬於他們的歷史性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
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所以應該是原鄉的學生以後當成老師回來的話 |
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7639.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
7643.66 |
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他可能他對這個地方的認同一個情感 |
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應該是會比一般的老師還要好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
7651.66 |
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是 目前我們現在今年這兩年推動的原住民專班 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
7651.66 |
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7655.66 |
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公費生培育的計畫裡面就是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
7655.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
7661.66 |
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來自他原來在地的縣市所推薦的原住民的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
7661.66 |
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7663.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
做原住民專班培育的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
7663.66 |
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7666.66 |
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未來他就是會透過這樣的一個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
7666.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
7668.66 |
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回到他的原鄉去進行服務上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
7668.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
7672.66 |
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好 那我們對原住民學校呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
7672.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
7675.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
我們關心三件事情就是施制要穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
7675.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
7678.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
那誰知前議員也要完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
7678.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
7680.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
那教育資源要持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
7680.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
7683.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
那這請教育部後續應該要跟原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
7683.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
7686.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
來做這三件事情的一個銜接 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
7686.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
7689.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
好 那最後有一題要請教那個次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
7691.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
7694.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
次長你知道什麼叫做夏季的失落嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
7694.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
7697.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
夏季失落的一個現象嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
7699.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
7705.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
請委 放暑假那個空窗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
7705.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
7710.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
是 好 現在就是要來跟次長請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
7710.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
7714.72 |
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就是所謂夏季失落有很多比較偏鄉 炎鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
7714.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
7718.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
因為暑假期間沒有像都會區這有城鄉差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
7718.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
7721.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
沒有什麼補習班或是才藝班 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
7721.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
7723.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
可以來做這樣的一個補習 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
7723.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
7727.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
所以他們會這些在炎鄉的孩子呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
7727.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
7731.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
會整個暑假就感覺是浪費掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
7731.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
7734.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
那在這裡跟你分享就是東海大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
7734.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
7737.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
東海大學在今年的一個暑假 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
7739.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
7744.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
帶了一個青年團發起了日出偏鄉教育營 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
7744.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
7747.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
50幾位的大學生頂著烈日 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
7747.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
7750.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
跑到藍頭信義鄉的羅納部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
7750.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
7752.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
跟羅納國小 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
7752.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
7756.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
他們不只教小朋友生成式的AI應用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
7756.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
7759.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
媒體的一個試讀還有走入部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
7759.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
7762.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
教長輩怎麼樣反患詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
7762.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
7767.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
那甚至連結了結合了大學歷史系的一個專業信任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
7767.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
7770.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
進行口述的歷史跟田野的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
7770.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
7771.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
把這個服務呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
7771.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
7774.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
升格為長期的一個結束的一個實踐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
7774.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
7779.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
那你們認不認同他們這樣的一個核心理念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
7779.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
7781.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
終結了煙火式的服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
7781.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
7785.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
然後能夠建構典、獻、滅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
7785.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
7787.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
來做一個永續的一個生態 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
7787.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
7789.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
然後讓這個大學責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
7789.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
7793.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
能夠在這樣的一個偏鄉來做一個那個落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
7793.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
7794.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
對謝謝委員的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
7794.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
7796.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
教育部其實長年多年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
7796.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
7798.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
有推動這個夏日熱學計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
7798.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
7802.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
大概也會有四、五萬的學生到偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
7802.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
7805.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
到比較這個偏遠地區去做服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
7805.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
7807.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
那也有相當的這個量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
7807.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
7809.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
那像東海大學這個也是其中之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
7809.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
7812.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
他們有這樣的一個服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
7812.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7814.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
下鄉服務的都非常非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7814.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7816.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
那以後我們我們接著 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7816.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7820.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
是要更鼓勵更多的大學學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7820.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7824.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
能夠到原鄉偏鄉來做服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7824.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7828.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
除了服務原鄉的一個這些小孩子或是老人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7828.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7830.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
那他本身也是一種學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7830.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7832.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
一種服務一種公益的學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7832.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7834.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
我們希望教育部在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7834.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7837.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
能夠多給一些那個資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7837.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7840.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
讓這些大學學生有機會這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7840.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7842.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
來做這樣的一個學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7842.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7844.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
我們那個更正一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7844.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7846.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
我們那個夏日熱學計畫裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7846.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7847.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
大概會擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7847.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7848.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
現在已經大概有四萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7848.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
7850.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
四萬到五萬的學生參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7850.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
7851.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
我們將來會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7851.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7852.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
這委員那麼關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7852.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7854.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
我們將來會跟地方政府合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7854.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
7856.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
盡量來開辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7856.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
7858.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
那如果有一些大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7858.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
7860.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
他做得特別好的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7860.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
7862.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
也應該要給予肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7862.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7864.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
我們大學部分都會鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7864.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7865.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
而且他這個如果做得好的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7865.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7867.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
將來他的那個申請的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7867.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7869.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
我們會增加給予 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7869.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7872.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
那今天教育部跟研領會都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7872.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7875.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
本席要求教育部在兩個內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7875.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7878.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
針對大專院校生根偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7878.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7882.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
研鄉生成的AI教育跟USR |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7882.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7885.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
長期對這個方案提出一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7885.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
7887.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
具體的研議報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7887.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7890.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
科技發展不能丟落任何的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7890.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7893.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
一個研鄉的孩子好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7893.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7895.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
好 我們會後再把這個資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7895.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7897.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
我們兩個月嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7897.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7899.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
兩個月我們希望就是能夠來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7899.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7902.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
鼓勵大學的USR這樣的一個精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7902.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7904.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7904.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7905.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7905.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7907.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
好 謝謝賽遵丞委員的諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7907.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7909.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
請次長官員回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7909.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7911.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
剛才有宣告賽遵丞委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7911.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7913.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
諮詢完畢之後休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7913.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7915.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
我們現在休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
8221.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
8224.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
好 我們現在繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
8224.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
8227.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
接下來有請鄭天才委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
8237.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
8239.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
主席 各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
8239.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
8244.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
有請教育部次長還有研議會的副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
8244.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
8247.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
好 請張廖次長 杜張副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
8247.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
8249.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
好 委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
8250.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
8253.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
這個108年5月24號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
8253.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
8255.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
立法院三讀修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
8255.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
8256.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
前文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
8256.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
8258.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
嚴重民族教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
8258.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
8260.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
而當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
8260.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
8262.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
是開了很多次的會議之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
8263.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
8265.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
三讀通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
8265.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
8267.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
而行政院版本是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
8267.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
8269.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
三讀通過的前十幾天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
8271.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
8273.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
送到了這個立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
8274.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
8276.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
我們看行政院版 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
8276.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
8278.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
嚴重民族教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
8277.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
8278.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
第15條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
8279.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
8280.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
當初也提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
8281.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
8283.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
設立各級嚴重民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
8284.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
8286.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
前嚴重民族學校設立思想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
8286.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
8288.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
另以法律定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
8289.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
8291.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
108年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
8292.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
8293.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
公佈施行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
8293.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
8296.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
5月24號公佈施行到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
8296.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
8298.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
已經非常多年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
8299.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
8300.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
我們看這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
8302.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
8303.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
嚴重民族教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
8303.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
8304.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
8304.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
8305.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
第一項第四款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
8307.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
8309.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
嚴重民族學校的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
8310.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
8313.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
以嚴重民族知識體系為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
8313.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
8316.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
依該民族教育哲學以目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
8316.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
8318.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
實施教育之學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
8321.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
8323.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
嚴重民族教育法第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
8324.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
8326.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
中央教育主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
8326.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
8328.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
與中央嚴重民族主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
8328.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
8332.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
應共同召開嚴重民族教育政策會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
8334.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
8336.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
這個政策會要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
8337.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
8340.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
相關的規劃諮詢包含了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
8340.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
8341.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
8341.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
8345.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
見過嚴重民族知識體系中長程期晚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
8345.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
8346.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
所以這個部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
8347.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
8350.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
嚴重民族知識體系的建構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
8352.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
8353.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
這個是教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
8353.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
8355.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
不跟研民會共同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
8356.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
8358.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
嚴重民族教育法第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
8358.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
8360.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
中央教育主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
8360.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
8362.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
與中央教育政策會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
8362.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
8364.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
相關的規劃諮詢包含了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
8364.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
8367.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
嚴重民族知識體系中長程期晚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
8367.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
8368.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
所以這個政策會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
8368.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
8370.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
相關的規劃諮詢包含了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
8370.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
8373.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
嚴重民族知識體系中長程期晚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
8373.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
8374.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
所以這個政策會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
8374.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
8376.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
相關的規劃諮詢包含了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
8376.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
8379.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
嚴重民族知識體系中長程期晚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
8379.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
8380.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
所以這個政策會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
8380.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
8382.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
相關的規劃諮詢包含了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
8382.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
8385.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
嚴重民族知識體系中長程期晚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
8357.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
8359.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
召開這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
8359.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
8362.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
很重要的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
8364.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
8366.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
我要談的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
8366.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
8370.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
從108年5月20日公佈施行之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
8370.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
8372.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
事實上立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
8373.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
8375.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
在109年5月21日 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
8376.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
8379.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
就審查過嚴重民族學教法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
8381.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
8383.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
而且還開了兩次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
8385.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
8386.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
審查了兩次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
8390.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
8392.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
我們看這個教育部的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
8394.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
8395.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
那個茶餃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
8396.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
8398.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
這個教育部的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
8398.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
8399.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
他支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
8399.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
8402.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
支持嚴重民族學校之設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
8404.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
8405.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
而且特本提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
8407.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
8408.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
8408.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
8411.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
要應該維持嚴重民族委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
8412.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
8413.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
所謂的維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
8414.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
8416.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
次長你所謂的維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
8416.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
8418.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
並不是立法院的決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
8418.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
8422.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
也不是嚴重民族教育法的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
8423.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
8424.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
施行證諺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
8425.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
8428.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
召開會議之後所做的決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
8430.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
8431.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
8431.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
8432.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
8432.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
8433.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
8433.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
8434.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
8434.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
8435.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
8435.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
8436.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
8436.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
8437.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
8437.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
8438.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
8438.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
8439.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
8439.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
8440.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
8440.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
8441.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
8441.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
8442.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
8442.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
8443.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
8443.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
8444.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
8444.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
8445.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
8445.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
8446.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
8446.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
8447.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
8447.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
8448.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
8448.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
8449.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
8449.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
8450.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
8450.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
8451.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
8451.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
8452.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
8452.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
8453.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
8453.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
8454.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
8454.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
8455.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
8455.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
8456.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
8456.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
8457.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
8457.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
8458.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
8458.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
8459.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
8431.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
8432.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
8432.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
8434.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
它不是法律的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
8434.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
8435.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
是可以調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
8435.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
8436.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
8436.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
8437.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
可以討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
8437.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
8438.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
是可以討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
8439.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
8441.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
所以在這樣的一個前提之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
8442.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
8443.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
我們看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
8444.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
8446.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
在我們教育部的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
8446.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
8448.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
認為還是要由研議會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
8448.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
8449.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
擔任主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
8451.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
8455.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
在6月25號的報告裡面提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
8457.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
8462.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
由研議會負責管理相對缺乏經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
8462.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
8463.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
8463.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
8468.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
原住民族學校由研議會負責管理相對缺乏經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
8469.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
8471.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
所以研議會要做的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
8471.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
8473.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
你們要提報給行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
8475.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
8478.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
提報給行政院應該要由教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
8478.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
8479.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
你做不來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
8479.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
8480.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
應該是要這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
8480.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
8482.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
而不是一直拖拖到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
8482.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
8485.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
從108年5月拖到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
8487.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
8491.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
你是立法院開過109年開過公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
8492.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
8493.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
也審查過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
8494.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
8497.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
我們吳立華委員在這一屆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
8497.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
8499.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
也開了公聽會今天又審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
8499.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
8500.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
但是現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
8502.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
8503.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
完全沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
8504.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
8505.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
有一個進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
8506.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
8508.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
所以在這樣的一個情形之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
8508.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
8510.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
研議會不要一直示範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
8512.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
8514.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
你看上次你的報告說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
8514.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
8517.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
推動原住民族學校示範計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
8518.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
8521.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
然後以公辦名言模式委託 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
8521.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
8524.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
財團法人原住民族研究發展基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
8525.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
8525.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
8526.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
8527.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
桃園期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
8528.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
8530.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
新中國小實驗教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
8530.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
8532.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
實驗教育還要這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
8532.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
8534.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
實驗教育不是第一手啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
8535.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
8536.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
8537.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
8541.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
乙發基金會不是這個主管的業務啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
8542.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
8545.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
乙發基金會是以言為主啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
8545.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
8547.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
原住民族學校是以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
8547.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
8548.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
支持體系啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
8548.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
8550.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
原住民族支持體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
8551.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
8552.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
為主的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
8552.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
8553.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
完全背離 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
8554.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
8555.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
所以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
8555.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
8557.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
在這樣的一個情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
8558.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
8560.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
教育部還是要去承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
8562.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
8563.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
請問一下部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
8563.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
8564.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
呃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
8565.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
8567.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
未來原住民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
8568.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
8571.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
除了剛才講原住民族支持體系為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
8573.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
8574.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
一般的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
8575.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
8576.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
課程要不要上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
8577.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
8578.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
一般的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
8579.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
8580.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
當然要上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
8580.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
8581.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
當然一般教育要上啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
8582.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
8584.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
一般教育照樣要上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
8585.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
8586.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
8588.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
8590.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
當然還是要以教育部啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
8591.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
8593.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
怎麼樣嚴明壞來氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
8593.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
8595.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
加強的協助度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
8596.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
8597.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
8599.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
8601.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
才要往前走的一個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
8602.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
8604.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
所以在這樣的前提之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
8605.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
8606.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
這個部分啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
8607.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
8609.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
我舉一個例子啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
8609.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
8610.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
當然一例子很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
8611.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
8613.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
八十七年六月十七號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
8613.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
8615.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
原住民族教育法公佈施行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
8615.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
8617.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
這是中華民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
8617.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
8618.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
8618.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
8620.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
雙位原住民族的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
8621.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
8622.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
專屬的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
8623.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
8624.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
8625.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
8626.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
而且真的是教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
8627.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
8629.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
八十七年六月十七號公佈施行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
8630.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
8632.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
第十七條也特別規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
8632.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
8634.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
政府因鼓勵大學設 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
8634.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
8636.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
相關院系或 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
8636.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
8638.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
民族大學校宴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
8639.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
8641.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
八十七年六月十七號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
8642.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
8643.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
本席那時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
8643.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
8645.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
後來當教育法處處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
8645.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
8647.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
我八十八年一月三十一號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
8648.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
8650.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
到延明會的教育文化處的處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
8651.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
8653.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
我就安排了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
8653.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
8655.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
當時的畫家制主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
8655.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
8657.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
跟當時的教育部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
8657.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
8659.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
楊朝祥 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
8658.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
8660.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
在八十八年的七月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
8661.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
8663.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
會面會商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
8663.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
8665.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
然後就安排了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
8665.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
8667.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
在八十八年八月十三號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
8668.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
8670.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
楊朝祥部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
8672.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
8674.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
會同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
8674.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
8676.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
畫家制主委去東華大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
8676.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
8678.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
聽起簡報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
8678.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
8680.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
為什麼那麼快就可以聽簡報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
8680.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
8682.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
因為我都拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
8683.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
8685.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
這個高德毅教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
8685.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
8687.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
在那邊已經準備好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
8687.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
8689.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
相關的原住民族協議院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
8689.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
8691.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
相關的簡報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
8691.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
8693.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
所以很快的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
8693.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
8695.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
當天就說要整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
8695.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
8697.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
所以八十九年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
8697.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
8699.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
二月二十一號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
8699.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
8701.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
8701.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
8703.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
就通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
8703.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
8705.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
八十九年十一月二十五號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
8705.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
8707.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
除備處成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
8707.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
8709.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
八十九十年八月一號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
8709.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
8711.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
正式成立原住民族協議院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
8713.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
8715.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
是這樣的一個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
8715.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
8717.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
要兩個部會要共同的去推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
8718.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
8720.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
演兵會要主動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
8721.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
8723.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
要主動去拜託教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
8724.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
8726.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
拜託啊你還是當主管機關啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
8729.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
8731.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
對不對請問一下副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
8731.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
8733.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
你有沒有去拜託過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
8733.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
8735.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
我當初去拜託教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
8735.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
8737.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
我去找他們的司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
8737.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
8739.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
才會有部長跟部長的會面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
8741.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
8743.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
對不對當然這個不是你主管的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
8745.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
8747.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
教育文化處是不是你主管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
8747.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
8749.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
不是嗎不是你督導的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
8749.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
8751.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
上個禮拜是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
8751.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
8753.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
現在開始了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
8753.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
8755.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
之前不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
8757.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
8759.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
副主委很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
8759.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
8761.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
8761.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
8763.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
8763.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
8765.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
不斷的我常常去各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
8765.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
8767.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
我以前當副主委的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
8767.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
8769.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
常常拜託各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
8769.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
8771.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
要去拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
8771.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
8773.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
拜託你比較會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
8773.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
8775.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
現在跟教育部也有一些配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
8775.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
8777.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
對不對何況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
8777.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
8779.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
我上次講過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
8779.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
8781.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
已經這麼多的原住民族重點學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
8781.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
8783.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
原住民族實驗教育學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
8783.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
8785.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
原住民族實驗教育重點學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
8785.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
8787.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
這麼多所 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
8788.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
8790.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
8789.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
8791.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
這麼多所從國小到高職 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
8791.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
8793.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
高中職都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
8794.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
8796.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
這個經驗這個就是示範的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
8796.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
8798.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
你不要再說示範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
8799.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
8801.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
8801.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
8803.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
我要誠摯的拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
8803.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
8805.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
8805.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
8807.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
到尾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
8807.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
8809.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
下次你要拜託下一個稍微 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
8809.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
8811.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
因為慣例就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
8811.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
8813.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
還是要民進黨的召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
8813.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
8815.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
來安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
8814.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
8816.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
我們就審 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
8816.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
8818.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
我們就讓他通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
8818.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
8820.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
為什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
8818.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
8820.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
我們可以定最後一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
8821.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
8823.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
幾年後施刑了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
8823.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
8825.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
法律先通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
8825.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
8827.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
最後一條就定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
8828.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
8830.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
施刑日期由行政院定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
8831.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
8833.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
收錢給行政院來定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
8834.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
8836.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
這樣他們才有一個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
8837.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
8839.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
到底立法院要完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
8839.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
8841.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
要制定通過怎麼樣的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
8841.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
8843.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
原住民族學校法的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
8843.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
8845.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
8844.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
8846.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
我們可以多幾年給他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
8847.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
8849.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
說不定他們提前了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
8849.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
8851.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
8851.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
8853.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
所以我誠摯的拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
8855.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
8857.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
吳立華召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
8857.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
8859.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
也能夠拜託下一任的召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
8859.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
8861.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
8861.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
8863.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
能夠在下個月起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
8863.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
8865.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
能夠完成三讀通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
8865.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
8867.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
原住民族學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
8867.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
8869.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
因為從108年到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
8869.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
8871.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
真的很多年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
8871.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
8873.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
8873.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
8875.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
好非常感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
8875.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
8877.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
今天裁委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
8877.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
8879.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
請官員回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
8878.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
8880.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
接下來我們有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
8880.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
8882.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
葉原志委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
8896.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
8898.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
總經理好 麻煩請教育部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
8898.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
8900.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
8902.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
8904.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
好委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
8904.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
8906.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
再兩個禮拜就要開學了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
8906.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
8908.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
國中小高中就要開學了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
8908.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
8910.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
但是現在缺老師的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
8910.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
8912.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
還是非常嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
8912.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
8914.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
六都大概有媒體統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
8914.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
8916.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
大概現在有782個老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
8916.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
8918.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
都還沒有補足 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
8918.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
8920.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
狀況嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
8920.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
8922.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
所以看得出來現在缺老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
8922.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
8924.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
不是只有偏鄉 包括直轄市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
8924.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
8926.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
都缺老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
8926.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
8928.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
這是一個非常嚴重的普遍性的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
8928.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
8930.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
那缺老師怎麼辦呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
8930.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
8932.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
正式老師跟我講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
8932.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
8934.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
他們都已經做好要增加終點的準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
8934.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
8936.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
譬如說假設 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
8936.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
8938.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
有老師沒有的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
8938.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
8940.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
譬如說舉例來講公民老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
8940.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
8942.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
找不到公民老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
8942.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
8944.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
國中是18個終點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
8944.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
8946.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
公民老師假設全校只有兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
8946.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
8948.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
一個人就要增加9個終點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
8948.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
8950.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
就變27個終點 非常非常重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
8950.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
8952.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
他說如果是正是這樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
8952.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
8954.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
搞不好剛好生小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
8954.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
8956.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
請育嬰假 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
8956.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
8958.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
不然就是請留職停薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
8958.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
8960.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
甚至於會造成正式老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
8960.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
8962.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
的請假潮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
8962.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
8964.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
我覺得這不必要去重視這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
8964.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
8966.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
等一下再跟你討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
8966.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
8968.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
那我先講幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
8968.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
8970.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
最近社會上發生大家很關注的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
8970.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
8972.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
是跟老師有關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
8972.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
8974.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
就是一直有老師被特教生攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
8974.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
8976.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
特別是在前一兩個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
8976.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
8978.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
台中這個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
8978.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
8980.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
有一個是國一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
8980.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
8982.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
暑假班 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
8982.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
8984.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
有一個老師就被國一的男學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
8984.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
8986.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
用掃把折斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
8986.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
8988.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
然後去刺傷眼睛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
8988.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
8990.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
現在有失明的可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
8990.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
8992.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
這是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
8992.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
8994.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
第二個我們有看到台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
8994.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
8996.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
之前也有大概在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
8996.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
8998.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
上個月吧 也有議員揭露 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
8998.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
9000.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
有一個學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
9000.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
9002.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
也是特教的 他從國一開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
9002.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
9004.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
現在已經要生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
9004.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
9006.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
對不起是小一 從小一開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
9006.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
9008.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
現在要生小五了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
9008.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
9010.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
這四年來全校校安通報大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
9010.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
9012.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
100多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
9012.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
9014.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
然後其中也有攻擊同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
9014.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
9016.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
攻擊老師13次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
9016.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
9018.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
破壞公務18次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
9018.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
9020.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
同學跟老師都受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
9020.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
9022.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
極大壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
9022.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
9024.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
然後小三跟小四老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
9024.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
9026.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
身心都受到很大的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
9026.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
9028.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
有的一個老師疑似有自殘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
9028.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
9030.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
的顧慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
9030.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
9032.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
另外一個老師有受傷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
9032.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
9034.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
那現在他生小五 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
9034.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
9036.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
我聽說啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
9036.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
9038.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
大家都很害怕跟他同班 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
9038.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
9040.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
所以有三個學生已經轉學了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
9041.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
9043.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
9043.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
9045.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
還有一個一起講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
9045.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
9047.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
這是昨天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
9047.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
9049.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
一個新聞 2024年台北有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
9049.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
9051.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
老師也是被 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
9051.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
9053.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
特教生攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
9053.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
9055.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
那這個影片當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
9055.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
9057.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
在網路上有流傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
9057.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
9059.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
我不知道市長那時候有沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
9059.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
9061.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
就是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
9061.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
9063.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
學生因為不服老師的管教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
9063.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
9065.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
後來對老師吐口水 毆打老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
9065.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
9067.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
後來是全班同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
9067.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
9069.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
去保護老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
9069.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
9071.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
叫老師趕快離開 其實我那時候看到這個影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
9071.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
9073.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
我也覺得還蠻難過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
9073.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
9075.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
因為當時教育部在推普特融合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
9075.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
9077.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
9077.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
9079.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
這些特教生日後總是要在社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
9079.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
9081.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
所以希望說他可以早日設 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
9081.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
9083.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
就是不要好像把他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
9083.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
9085.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
隔離 讓他在普通班裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
9085.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
9087.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
去適應這個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
9087.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
9089.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
可是實際上這樣的一個情形造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
9089.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
9091.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
他反而被歧視 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
9091.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
9093.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
因為其他同學說老師趕快離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
9093.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
9095.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
他就是這樣子 就是有很多歧視性的語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
9095.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
9097.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
我們不想要他被歧視 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
9097.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
9099.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
但是現在的做法就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
9099.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
9101.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
造成他被歧視 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
9101.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
9103.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
那我現在是想要問市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
9103.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
9105.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
就是最近一連串發生這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
9105.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
9107.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
類似的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
9107.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
9109.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
特別是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
9109.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
9111.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
有攻擊性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
9110.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
9112.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
沒有攻擊性的 不是不在我們討論的範圍之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
9112.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
9114.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
就是有攻擊性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
9114.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
9116.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
這一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
9116.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
9118.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
會造成老師失明的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
9118.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
9120.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
造成老師被打的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
9120.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
9122.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
造成同學被攻擊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
9122.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
9124.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
這一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
9124.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
9126.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
攻擊性的特色 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
9126.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
9128.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
現在教育部有什麼具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
9130.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
9132.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
做法嗎 還是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
9132.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
9134.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
也沒有什麼在理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
9134.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
9136.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
有關普特融合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
9136.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
9138.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
這個部分產生的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
9138.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
9140.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
我們現在在朝兩個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
9140.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
9142.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
一個就是增加人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
9142.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
9144.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
增加人力的方面其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
9144.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
9146.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
包括豬年降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
9146.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
9148.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
特教班的師生比以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
9148.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
9150.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
113年到114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
9150.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
9152.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
我們大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
9152.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
9154.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
特教教師已經增加了1235位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
9154.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
9156.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
那特教助理是從 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
9156.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
9158.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
113年分4年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
9158.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
9160.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
增加月薪制的學生助理員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
9160.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
9162.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
9162.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
9164.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
針對我的問題回答 |
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因為你講的 |
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比如說特教老師或什麼 |
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他可能針對一般的特生 這不是我現在要討論的範圍 |
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我現在是針對有攻擊性的 |
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像這種有攻擊性的 |
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特生 |
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並不是你增加老師 |
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或增加助理 |
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助理特教員就可以解決的 |
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絕對不是 |
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我相信他從 比如說我剛舉台北的例子 |
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他從小一開始就是這樣 |
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一定是被高度關注 |
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全校一定針對他 |
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有做特別的個案研究 |
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但是就是沒有辦法處理 |
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特別就針對攻擊性 |
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因為你講的太普遍了 |
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不會沒有辦法回答到我的問題 |
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針對攻擊性的特教生 |
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到底要怎麼處理 |
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跟委員報告 |
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剛剛委員提到兩個案例我們有分析過 |
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大致上都是在銜接的時候 |
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產生的一些問題 |
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比如剛講到高中的部分是因為 |
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老師請假代理教師加入的時候 |
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並不知道這個孩子的狀況 |
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所產生的這個 |
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當時的這個狀況 |
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那國小六 |
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台中這個小六生國一的時候 |
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他也是在暑期 |
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我們上個禮拜其實也跟台中市有開 |
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有跟各縣市開會 |
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他們其實提到對這個孩子 |
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入學之後相關協助本來也準備好了 |
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可是因為主要他是在 |
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暑假期間所以相關的 |
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應用機制還沒開始 |
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我覺得大家不要再唱高調 |
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這絕對不是銜接的問題 |
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如果是銜接的問題的話為什麼 |
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一個特生攻擊性的特生 |
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他可以從小一開始一直到 |
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小五都這樣 |
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小一到小五都這樣這怎麼會有銜接問題 |
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全校都認識他了 |
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不要說全校啦 |
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連其他還沒入學的 |
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學生的家長都知道這個 |
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赫赫有名啊 |
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所以這絕對不會是銜接的問題啦 |
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絕對不會是銜接的問題 |
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那委員我們可以再補充一下嗎 |
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那委員剛剛提到 |
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因為確實在學校裡面面對這樣的孩子 |
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本來是 |
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都是非常辛苦的 |
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那我們從113學年度 |
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開始也幫忙縣市 |
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在培養的是情緒 |
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行為支持的老師 |
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那老師也能夠面對這個 |
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孩子他也是要有一定的專業 |
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那我們目前培養了331個 |
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那同時國教署也成立了 |
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情緒支持服務中心 |
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然後也協助22縣市 |
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都有情緒的團隊 |
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因為時間不夠了 |
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你現在講的都是我們培養多少老師 |
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多少情緒性的老師 |
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可是我覺得以現實來看 |
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就是沒有打到效 |
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因為你們一直講說是老師不夠 |
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或者是老師的問題 |
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包括我們來看一下跟你們最棒的 |
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一直在引導你們教育政策的人本基金會 |
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當那個台中老師 |
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被攻擊到快失明的時候 |
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他說什麼咧 |
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他說學生要面對什麼事件壓力點在哪 |
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老師的情緒是什麼情緒是什麼 |
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這些老師都要知道啊 |
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所以老師在教育現場要了解學生的相關記錄 |
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應該要連結學校支持系統 |
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什麼要輔導合作 |
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結果這個人本基金會 |
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這樣的發言在第一線 |
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被所有第一線老師罵爆 |
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為什麼 因為這就完全不了解 |
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第一線的狀況 |
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所以你們現在的做法就跟人本一樣 |
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就是說就是老師的問題 |
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老師不了解他的情緒 |
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老師不了解他的個案 |
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老師不能去運用這個支持系統 |
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老師沒辦法處理他的情緒 |
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可是在第一線就是一直發生這樣的狀況 |
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所以我真的 |
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強力的建議 |
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三件事 |
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我給三個建議 |
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第一個建議請你們真的去好好的 |
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跟第一線的老師溝通一下 |
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到底這個教育現場是遇到什麼狀況 |
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9380.66 |
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9382.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
不要只聽這些唱高調的團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
9384.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
9386.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
9386.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
9388.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
可不可以去關心一下第一線的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
9389.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
9391.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
關心一下第一線老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
9391.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
9393.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
到底他們怎麼看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
9393.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
9395.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
面對這種有攻擊性的特徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
9395.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
9397.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
到底應該要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
9397.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
9399.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
這是第一件事 建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
9399.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
9401.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
第二個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
9401.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
9403.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
剛剛我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
9403.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
9405.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
2024年那個台北的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
9405.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
9407.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
他被攻擊 他現在提告了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
9407.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
9409.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
結果提告了當然他勝訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
9409.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
9411.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
因為我要坦白講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
9411.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
9413.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
在教育現場 老師去告學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
9413.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
9415.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
都是很痛苦的一個抉擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
9415.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
9417.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
因為我知道很多老師被攻擊之後都不想要提告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
9417.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
9419.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
但是有的老師覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
9419.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
9421.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
要透過提告來捍衛自己的尊嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
9421.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
9423.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
那這個老師求償 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
9423.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
9425.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
102萬 最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
9425.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
9427.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
法院判決是學生及母親 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
9427.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
9429.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
連帶賠償10萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
9429.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
9431.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
但其中10萬根本不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
9431.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
9433.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
老師的律師費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
9433.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
9435.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
律師費是20萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
9435.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
9437.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
因為那時候法院認為說這個律師費是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
9437.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
9439.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
老師為了尋求個人權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
9439.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
9441.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
的必要性的支出不應該是屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
9441.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
9443.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
賠償的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
9443.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
9445.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
現在韓國有成立一個教權局 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
9445.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
9447.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
教育部應該知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
9447.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
9449.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
教權局基本上是給老師兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
9449.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
9451.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
支持 一個是行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
9451.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
9453.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
支持就是心理上的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
9453.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
9455.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
老師當面對這種被學生霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
9455.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
9457.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
或毆打的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
9457.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
9459.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
因為台灣其實很多老師是獨自面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
9459.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
9461.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
因為學校有時候擔心被家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
9461.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
9463.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
擔心家長壓力所以對老師可能你不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
9464.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
9466.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
突顯出很大的支持否則又會被認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
9466.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
9468.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
是私相護 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
9468.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
9470.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
9469.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
9471.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
有很多老師在面對這種狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
9471.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
9473.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
是很孤單的 我覺得教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
9473.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
9475.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
應該也可以仿造韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
9475.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
9477.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
的做法 第一個給予心理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
9477.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
9479.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
跟行政支持 第二個給法律的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
9479.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
9481.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
就是當老師真的被毆打 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
9481.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
9483.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
要提告的話其實這個律師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
9483.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
9485.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
應該我覺得國家應該要協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
9485.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
9487.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
因為老師畢竟是義務教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
9487.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
9489.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
他是幫國家執行義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
9489.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
9491.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
教育的工作 這是廣義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
9491.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
9493.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
他就是公務人員啊 那他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
9493.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
9495.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
他在職場面對這個狀況難道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
9495.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
9497.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
我覺得國家不應該在法律上給 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
9497.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
9499.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
教育部給予支持嗎 所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
9499.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
9501.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
這個我覺得教育部可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
9501.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
9503.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
現在有這個規劃嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
9503.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
9505.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
那委員再補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
9505.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
9507.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
你先回答我的問題就好 有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
9507.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
9509.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
支持的規劃嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
9509.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
9511.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
我們現在有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
9511.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
9513.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
執行原則 上個禮拜跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
9513.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
9515.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
我們沒有找其他民間團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
9515.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
9517.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
主要是找輔助中心跟我們的情資中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
9517.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
9519.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
還有縣市 那也 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
9519.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
9521.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
跟委員剛所提到的一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
9521.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
9523.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
我們把原則再深化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
9523.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
9525.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
變成指引 那可以讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
9525.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
9527.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
老師知道如果這些狀況的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
9527.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
9529.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
我說律師費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
9529.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
9531.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
法律支持我們本來就在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
9531.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
9533.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
研擬要協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
9533.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
9535.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
本來研擬大概什麼時候上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
9535.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
9537.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
那我們會後再跟委員講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
9537.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
9539.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
為什麼會後 我現在質詢為什麼會後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
9539.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
9541.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
你現在講就好啦 預計明年上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
9541.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
9543.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
預計明年上路喔 因為什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
9543.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
9545.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
就是說 具體做法是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
9546.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
9548.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
法律諮詢跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
9548.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
9550.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
不是諮詢啦 就是說當老師在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
9550.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
9552.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
現場面對到這樣狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
9552.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
9554.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
像我現在舉的台北市這個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
9554.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
9556.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
這個老師被打 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
9556.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
9558.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
被打提告 這個律師費就20萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
9559.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
9561.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
那其實他提告 對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
9561.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
9563.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
是幫他捍衛他的尊嚴 可是實際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
9563.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
9565.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
他所付出的財務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
9565.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
9567.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
還比較多 那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
9567.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
9569.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
國家不能給予這些老師支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
9569.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
9571.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
對 我們現在在研議中啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
9571.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
9573.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
會朝這個方向研議 朝這個方向是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
9573.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
9575.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
如果他的那個行為是發生在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
9575.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
9577.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
他的那個 就是 那一個月給一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
9577.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
9579.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
研議的結果好不好 一個月給一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
9579.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
9581.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
研議的結果 然後再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
9581.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
9583.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
還有最後一個建議喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
9583.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
9585.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
因為我每次都看到這個人本基金會都很會講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
9585.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
9587.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
都講一大堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
9587.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
9589.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
感覺他很想要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
9589.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
9591.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
協助 來處理這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
9591.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
9593.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
那人本基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
9593.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
9595.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
辦學 據說很貴啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
9595.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
9597.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
一學期18萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
9597.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
9599.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
18萬 他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
9599.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
9601.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
這個 師生比1比5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
9602.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
9606.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
就是說用的 這種自己用這麼高的學費篩選學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
9606.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
9608.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
然後又一直指三道四 我是建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
9608.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
9610.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
是不是像這種有攻擊性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
9611.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
9613.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
這些特生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
9613.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
9615.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
是不是教育部幫忙媒合一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
9615.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
9617.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
看看是不是也幫忙補助一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
9617.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
9619.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
教給人本的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
9619.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
9621.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
就是大家可以去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
9621.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
9623.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
因為他那麼厲害嘛 那就請他們來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
9623.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
9625.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
這個教學一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
9625.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
9627.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
那因為他學費比較貴 那看這教育部是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
9627.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
9629.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
是請他們針對這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
9629.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
9631.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
這樣第一點還是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
9631.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
9633.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
要補助還怎麼樣 我覺得這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
9633.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
9635.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
我也可以說服這個我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
9635.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
9637.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
黨的來支持 就是補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
9637.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
9639.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
來處理這個事情 因為畢竟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
9639.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
9641.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
一個學校有這種攻擊性的特生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
9641.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
9643.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
如果你是家長 大家將心比心啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
9643.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
9645.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
市長如果你的小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
9645.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
9647.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
在這樣的一個班上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
9647.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
9649.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
對不對 你一定很難受 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
9649.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
9652.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
我覺得要去 很積極去處理這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
9652.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
9654.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
這個你也研議一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
9655.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
9656.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
9656.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
9658.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
尊重委員的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
9658.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
9660.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
因為這個民間團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
9660.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
9662.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
我是幫忙講解方啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
9662.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
9664.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
我是幫忙講解方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
9664.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
9666.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
因為你們講的都是很高調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
9666.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
9668.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
講了一大堆 但是常常在發生類似的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
9668.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
9670.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
那這只是爆出來比較嚴重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
9670.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
9672.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
但我們一定知道說有一些有攻擊性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
9672.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
9674.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
他並沒有上刑問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
9674.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
9676.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
可是可能也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
9678.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
9680.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
是個狀況 就是一個不定時炸彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
9680.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
9682.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
所以我們不能說假裝沒看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
9682.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
9684.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
所以我在幫你想解方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
9684.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
9686.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
當你可以有更好的方法 當然我們也支持啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
9686.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
9688.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
可是我覺得你們現在所提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
9688.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
9690.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
這些方法並沒有解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
9690.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
9692.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
現狀的問題啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
9692.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
9694.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
然後再來喔 這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
9694.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
9696.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
再請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
9696.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
9698.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
最近有一個學生團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
9698.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
9700.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
叫EDU |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
9700.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
9702.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
他做了一個針對108課綱的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
9703.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
9705.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
提到了學習歷程檔案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
9705.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
9707.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
因為現在上一次我有質詢學習歷程檔案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
9707.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
9709.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
學測之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
9709.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
9711.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
學測之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
9713.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
9715.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
這次可以回答嗎 學習歷程檔案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
9715.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
9717.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
9717.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
9719.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
就是因為學測之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
9719.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
9721.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
很多學生他並沒有達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
9722.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
9724.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
學測標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
9724.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
9726.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
所以他們之前的學習歷程檔案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
9726.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
9728.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
他們就認為用不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
9728.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
9730.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
所以有些老師就跟我反應就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
9730.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
9732.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
那為什麼不能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
9732.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
9734.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
等到學測之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
9734.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
9736.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
再來上傳檔案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
9736.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
9738.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
然後後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
9738.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
9740.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
教育部現在有一個做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
9740.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
9742.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
你們可以上傳PDF檔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
9742.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
9744.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
就是有兩個選擇 對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
9744.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
9746.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
一個是學習歷程檔案 另外一個是PDF檔案上傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
9746.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
9748.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
9748.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
9750.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
這個學生團體他的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
9750.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
9752.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
顯示 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
9752.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
9754.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
因為PDF檔的上傳他是不需要師長認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
9754.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
9756.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
所以他們得知這樣一個做法之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
9756.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
9758.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
其實選擇PDF上傳的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
9758.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
9760.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
是蠻多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
9760.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
9762.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
然後再加上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
9762.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
9764.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
學習歷程檔案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
9764.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
9766.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
其實現在的提交率是非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
9766.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
9768.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
未提交率是非常高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
9768.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
9770.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
未提交率是非常高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
9770.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
9772.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
所以我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
9772.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
9774.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
因為從我上次在提到這個學習歷程檔案的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
9774.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
9776.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
到現在也好幾個月了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
9777.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
9779.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
學習歷程檔案這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
9779.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
9781.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
到底你們現在有沒有一個比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
9781.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
9783.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
完整的看法 到底是應該要繼續嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
9783.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
9785.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
就是一個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
9785.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
9787.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
執行到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
9787.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
9789.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
這麼多的問題 而且學生也不想要用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
9789.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
9791.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
那很多老師也反應說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
9791.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
9793.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
好像達不到效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
9793.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
9795.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
那你們還要繼續嗎 這個學習歷程檔案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
9796.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
9798.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
根據我們的大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
9798.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
9800.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
招生專業化的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
9800.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
9802.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
研究團隊來調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
9802.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
9804.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
其實每個學期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
9804.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
9806.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
學生提交EP的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
9806.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
9808.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
都有高達八成以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
9808.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
9810.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
雖然有些微的下滑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
9810.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
9812.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
但是如果就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
9812.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
9814.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
這些學生用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
9814.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
9816.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
所謂的學習歷程檔案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
9816.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
9818.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
來申請入學的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
9818.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
9820.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
基本上那個相關性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
9820.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
9822.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
那他們是有高度關聯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
9822.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
9824.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
就是說用EP來申 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
9824.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
9826.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
作為他們申學的一個依據的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
9826.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
9828.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
在申請入學的管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
9828.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
9830.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
他們會獲得入取的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
9830.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
9832.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
是有證相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
9832.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
9834.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
所以這個部分我們也根據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
9834.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
9836.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
上次委員的提示 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
9836.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
9838.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
我們有做了幾個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
9838.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
9840.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
如何將所謂的學習歷程檔案裡的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
9840.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
9842.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
內容可以作為精簡簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
9842.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
9844.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
讓學生更 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
9844.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
9846.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
知道說大學端 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
9846.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
9848.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
在審查的時候看重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
9848.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
9850.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
是什麼樣的一些成果的表現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
9850.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
9852.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
這個其實我們都有在研議當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
9853.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
9855.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
什麼研議當中你這樣好空喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
9856.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
9858.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
你現在講的是學習歷程檔案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
9858.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
9860.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
對於申學有幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
9860.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
9862.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
目前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
9862.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
9864.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
為什麼我們得到的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
9864.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
9866.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
繳交率是很低的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
9866.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
9868.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
如果說對申學有幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
9868.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
9870.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
那大家為什麼都不繳咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
9870.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
9872.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
委員其實我們的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
9872.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
9874.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
然後第二個就是剛剛我也跟你講一個數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
9874.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
9876.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
就是你現在可以用PDF上傳嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
9878.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
9880.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
然後PDF上傳是不需市長認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
9880.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
9882.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
所以超過半數的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
9882.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
9884.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
他會選擇PDF上傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
9884.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
9886.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
所以我覺得你好像活在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
9886.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
9888.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
跟學生是不同世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
9888.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
9890.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
實際上大學端 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
9890.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
9892.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
在審查的時候如果有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
9892.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
9894.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
學生的EP |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
9894.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
9896.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
基本上都是有經過他們的老實驗證 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
9896.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
9898.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
那大學端的審查委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
9898.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
9900.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
也比較願意相似 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
9900.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
9902.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
這個是你在講的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
9902.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
9904.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
很多大學的真實狀況就不是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
9904.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
9906.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
這都是你在粉絲太平的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
9906.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
9908.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
你有做過實際上的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
9908.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
9910.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
我們有大學專業化的專業辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
9910.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
9912.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
有幫我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
9912.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
9914.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
什麼確定你有什麼調查嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
9914.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
9916.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
為什麼你講的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
9916.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
9918.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
跟大家在實務上的理解都差那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
9918.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
9920.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
教育部面對問題解決問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
9920.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
9922.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
不要一直活在自己的世界好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
9922.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
9924.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
你如果有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
9924.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
9926.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
你可不可以提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
9926.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
9928.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
我們會後提供相關的文件給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
9928.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
9930.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
什麼文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
9930.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
9932.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
我們專案辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
9932.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
9934.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
有相關的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
9934.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
9936.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
研究資料可以提供給委員做參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
9938.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
9940.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
9955.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
9957.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
9957.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
9959.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
第一個我先請高教司司長謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
9959.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
9961.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
好請司長上被訓材 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
9966.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
9968.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
好司長吳安我快速跟你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
9968.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
9970.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
說明一個我們辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
9970.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
9972.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
最近收到蠻多陳情案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
9972.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
9974.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
但我想今天不會立刻有答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
9974.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
9976.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
我就是先把問題帶出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
9976.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
9978.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
就是關於教師升等的外省制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
9978.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
9980.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
我們在同一影片上展現兩個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
9980.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
9982.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
我只是就這兩個學校來舉例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
9982.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
9984.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
我相信司長你從文字上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
9984.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
9986.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
看得出來學校A的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
9986.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
9988.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
非常的多而且非常的複雜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
9988.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
9990.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
非常的多元它規範了什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
9990.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
9992.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
規範了所謂外省委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
9992.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
9994.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
領選資格及其條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
9994.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
9996.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
還有迴避室友其實寫非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
9996.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
9998.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
可是B校相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
9998.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
10000.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
規範要求其實非常非常簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
10000.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
10002.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
也就是說如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
10002.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
10004.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
我是大學的老師我要申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
10004.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
10006.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
這個升等的時候外省制度我在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
10006.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
10008.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
A校跟B校會遇到不同的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
10008.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
10010.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
可是我還是我我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
10010.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
10012.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
專業表現還是我的專業表現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
10012.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
10014.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
當然我知道在大學自治 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
10014.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
10016.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
的前提底下雖然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
10016.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
10018.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
教育部訂定有專科以上學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
10018.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
10020.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
教師資格審定辦法可是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
10020.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
10022.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
這個辦法的授權給予大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
10022.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
10024.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
自治很大的空間所以我會說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
10024.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
10026.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
這兩個落差很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
10026.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
10028.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
這是第一個關於升等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
10028.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
10030.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
外省的時候外省委員的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
10030.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
10032.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
那第二個我們來看一下我再舉第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
10032.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
10034.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
例子如果他遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
10034.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
10036.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
相關的救濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
10036.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
10038.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
事件發生的時候救濟資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
10038.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
10040.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
跟管道的規範也截然不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
10040.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
10042.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
在我的左手邊學校C |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
10042.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
10044.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
的部分當事人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
10044.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
10046.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
簡報左邊學校C的當事人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
10046.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
10048.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
他的系級院級委員是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
10048.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
10050.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
針對外省意見提請認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
10050.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
10052.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
可是右邊學校D他則是規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
10052.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
10054.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
只有校級的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
10054.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
10056.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
可以在校級會議上提起認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
10056.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
10058.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
好我相信這個規範思想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
10058.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
10060.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
應該非常熟悉一樣在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
10060.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
10062.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
相關教育部的法規授權底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
10062.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
10064.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
大學有自治的權利我沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
10064.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
10066.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
要針對這些學校所以我想會後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
10066.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
10068.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
我們不要針對個別學校來討論 |
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10068.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
10070.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
我比較希望教育部有沒有機會開起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
10070.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
10072.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
通盤的討論當然這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
10072.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
10074.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
討論必須要邀集大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
10074.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
10076.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
校長跟相關有相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
10076.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
10078.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
外省經驗的老師甚至是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
10078.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
10080.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
所有必須要被審查的老師我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
10080.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
10082.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
大家在這些制度上一定心裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
10082.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
10084.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
都有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
10085.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
10087.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
話想說所以我想我是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
10087.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
10089.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
今天先提出來這邊拜託教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
10089.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
10091.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
進行相關研議好嗎來司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
10091.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
10093.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
好謝謝委員對於那個整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
10093.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
10095.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
教評會的這個設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
10095.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
10097.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
的一個教師資格審定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
10097.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
10099.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
一個看法的一個提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
10099.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
10101.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
先跟委員快速的回應兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
10101.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
10103.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
重點第一個由於每個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
10103.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
10105.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
學校在教師資格審定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
10105.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
10107.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
送外省的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
10107.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
10109.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
那個分街是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
10109.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
10111.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
有的學校是在校教評 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
10111.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
10113.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
有的學校是在院教評 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
10113.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
10115.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
有的學校是在系教評 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
10115.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
10117.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
這個部分就成如剛才委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
10117.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
10119.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
我們是尊重學校在整個外省制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
10119.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
10121.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
上面的一個設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
10121.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
10123.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
第二個部分就是有關於外省 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
10123.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
10125.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
委員的這個遴選或者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
10125.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
10127.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
是相關的條件教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
10127.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
10129.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
部規範的是一個基本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
10129.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
10131.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
規範第一個就是不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
10131.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
10133.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
低階高審也就是如果在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
10133.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
10135.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
審查教授資格的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
10135.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
10137.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
原則上是以教授資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
10137.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
10139.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
或者是中研院的研究員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
10139.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
10141.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
或院士作為審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
10141.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
10143.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
委員為主要的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
10143.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
10145.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
審查人的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
10145.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
10147.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
那至於說學校要在制定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
10147.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
10149.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
更細緻的比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
10149.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
10151.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
依照行政程序法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
10151.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
10153.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
訂定相關的迴避要件的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
10153.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
10155.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
這個也是剛才委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
10155.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
10157.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
這個是尊重學校的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
10157.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
10159.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
設計制度的一個設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
10160.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
10162.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
那至於就計的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
10162.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
10164.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
我們根據目前的現行就計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
10164.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
10166.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
有幾個管道第一個如果真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
10166.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
10168.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
對整個教評會對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
10168.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
10170.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
外省委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
10170.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
10172.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
認為真的有專業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
10172.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
10174.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
一個判斷認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
10174.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
10176.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
他是有不足或者是足以撼動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
10176.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
10178.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
他專業性的地方其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
10178.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
10180.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
是可以重啟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
10180.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
10182.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
所謂的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
10182.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
10184.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
外省審查的那第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
10184.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
10186.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
如果說當事人對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
10186.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
10188.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
這個外省意見有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
10188.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
10190.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
質疑的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
10190.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
10192.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
或者是審查意見有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
10192.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
10194.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
不足的地方他其實可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
10194.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
10196.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
提出相關的就計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
10196.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
10198.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
那就計的管道有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
10198.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
10200.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
書院或者是行政就計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
10200.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
10202.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
那另外也可以透過我們中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
10202.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
10204.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
各級學校申評會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
10204.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
10206.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
的一個制度來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
10206.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
10208.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
作為他就計的一個管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
10208.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
10210.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
以上說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
10210.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
10212.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
我當然都可以理解相關大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
10212.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
10214.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
精神包含不可以第一階拉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
10214.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
10216.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
高審這些事情然後尊重大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
10216.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
10218.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
但是我要說的是我剛剛說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
10218.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
10220.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
通盤的設計這件事情我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
10220.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
10222.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
應該要與時俱進因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
10222.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
10224.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
如同我們只要每次談到高等教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
10224.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
10226.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
我們都會發現台灣高等教育要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
10226.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
10228.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
流財越來越困難然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
10228.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
10230.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
甚至大家會引用其他國家的薪水 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
10230.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
10232.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
其他國家的待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
10232.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
10234.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
來看待台灣的高等教育流財 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
10234.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
10236.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
的問題所以我認為其實不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
10236.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
10238.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
只有薪水一定是在整體的教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
10238.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
10240.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
環境或是整個制度上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
10240.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
10242.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
讓很多人覺得好像留在台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
10242.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
10244.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
高等教育沒有比較好所以我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
10244.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
10246.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
當然是要提出我的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
10246.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
10248.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
雖然你剛剛講的辦法現在都已經在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
10248.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
10250.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
實行但是一定有一些在制度的設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
10250.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
10252.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
跟第一線的需求產生了一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
10252.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
10254.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
落差我這邊還是要拜託教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
10254.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
10256.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
帶回去研議因為深等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
10256.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
10258.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
制度對每一個學術工作者來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
10258.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
10260.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
都非常的重要可是如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
10260.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
10262.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
因為尊重大學自治 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
10262.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
10264.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
產生這麼多學校跟學校間的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
10264.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
10266.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
我認為這些外省 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
10266.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
10268.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
資格委員的認定啦外省委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
10268.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
10270.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
一件一億的處理機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
10270.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
10272.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
會不會影響到我們自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
10272.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
10274.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
國內其他學校或者是世界各校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
10274.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
10276.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
對於我國學術的信賴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
10276.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
10278.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
我認為這會是一個一億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
10278.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
10280.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
我也希望協助台灣的高等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
10280.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
10282.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
教師在這件事情上有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
10282.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
10284.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
更好被看待的環境跟更好的機制 |
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10284.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
10286.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
要拜託教育部帶回去研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
10286.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
10288.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
沒問題謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
10288.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
10290.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
那次長請回 接下來有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
10290.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
10292.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
張亮萬間次長謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
10294.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
10296.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
好委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
10324.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
10326.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
好 下一張 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
10347.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
10349.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
天鄉地區的孩子們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
10349.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
10351.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
小一入學的時候所受 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
10351.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
10353.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
所收到去參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
10353.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
10355.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
的一個學歷檢測這個時代會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
10355.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
10357.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
做的事情我們發現從2018 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
10357.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
10359.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
年到2023年以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
10359.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
10361.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
國英數設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
10361.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
10363.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
天鄉小孩代加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
10363.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
10365.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
的比例超過全國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
10365.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
10367.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
倍數的比例其實逐年上升 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
10367.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
10369.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
以國文來說從 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
10369.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
10371.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
2018年的1.97倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
10371.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
10373.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
到2023到了2.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
10373.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
10375.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
倍英文也是1.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
10375.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
10377.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
來到1.90數學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
10377.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
10379.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
1.76來到1.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
10379.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
10381.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
社會1.98來到2.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
10381.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
10383.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
自然1.76來到1.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
10383.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
10385.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
也就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
10385.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
10387.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
天鄉孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
10387.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
10389.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
在小一入學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
10389.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
10391.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
的時候就存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
10391.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
10393.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
嚴重的學歷落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
10393.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
10395.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
相較於都會地區的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
10395.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
10397.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
而且這個學歷的落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
10397.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
10399.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
逐年上升 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
10399.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
10401.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
這個是來自於教育部的統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
10401.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
10403.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
數字還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
10403.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
10405.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
相關的研究都發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
10405.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
10407.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
有這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
10407.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
10409.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
還有包含我們立法院預算中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
10409.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
10411.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
在2021年的報告也做出了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
10411.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
10413.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
類似的結論那這個預算中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
10413.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
10415.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
一定是有跟教育部調資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
10415.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
10417.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
簡單的一句話總結就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
10417.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
10419.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
偏遠地區的學前教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
10419.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
10421.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
仍待強化來看下一張 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
10421.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
10423.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
我們跟我們長時間跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
10423.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
10425.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
偏遠地區的校長老師還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
10425.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
10427.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
很多的研究團體保持互動跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
10427.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
10429.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
討論最近這幾年大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
10429.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
10431.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
更系統性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
10431.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
10433.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
結構性的來研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
10433.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
10435.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
而不是以個案來研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
10435.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
10437.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
到底偏鄉的孩子們他們在所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
10437.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
10439.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
家庭環境社區環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
10439.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
10441.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
原生家庭他們在入學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
10441.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
10443.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
前通常遭遇了哪些困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
10443.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
10445.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
這個是其中某一個孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
10445.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
10447.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
跟很多孩子所表現出來的樣態 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
10447.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
10449.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
例如說在家庭的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
10449.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
10451.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
他會有身體的虐待情緒的虐待 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
10451.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
10453.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
甚至還有性侵的個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
10453.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
10455.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
或者是家庭疏於照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
10455.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
10457.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
在生活端在情緒關懷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
10457.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
10459.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
更不要講當家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
10459.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
10461.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
失去了功能有家人做勞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
10461.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
10463.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
藥物濫用的問題家人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
10463.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
10465.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
暴力傾向的問題家人有精神疾病 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
10465.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
10467.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
的困境或者是離婚等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
10467.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
10469.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
的這些問題他可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
10469.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
10471.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
發生在單一一個孩子身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
10471.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
10473.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
而當單一個孩子身上發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
10473.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
10475.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
這樣的情況的時候其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
10475.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
10477.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
衛福部有相關社安網 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
10477.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
10479.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
會及時介入這個沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
10479.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
10481.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
我要再講我們社安2.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
10481.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
10483.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
跟社安3.0確實有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
10483.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
10485.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
發揮社照的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
10485.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
10487.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
社福的功能用不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
10487.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
10489.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
的問題面向切入去協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
10489.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
10491.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
這個小孩所以現在我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
10491.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
10493.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
另外一個比較大的問題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
10493.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
10495.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
同一個小孩身上他可能因為遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
10495.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
10497.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
這些異體所以他可能身上會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
10497.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
10499.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
了就是他的周邊環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
10499.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
10501.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
會有七到八個志工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
10501.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
10503.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
同時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
10502.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
10504.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
因為不同的問題在服務這個小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
10504.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
10506.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
那我們來試想一下次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
10506.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
10508.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
當一個小孩他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
10508.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
10510.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
社區環境跟家庭環境是現在投影 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
10510.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
10512.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
片上這個狀況你大概可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
10512.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
10514.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
想像這個小孩他面臨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
10514.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
10516.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
八九個社工的時候其實沒有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
10516.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
10518.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
幫他統整這些社工給予他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
10518.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
10520.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
協助於是最後統整的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
10520.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
10522.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
到了誰身上呢我們來看下一張 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
10522.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
10524.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
就到了學校老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
10524.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
10526.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
身上這個是偏鄉老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
10526.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
10528.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
其實從我以前在花蓮自己擔任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
10528.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
10530.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
老師我就發現我們在偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
10530.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
10532.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
的時候我們幾乎要兼顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
10532.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
10534.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
部分的家庭功能當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
10534.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
10536.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
我們還有學校的教學業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
10536.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
10538.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
我們還有行政的事務而當我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
10538.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
10540.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
自己身為老師我們想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
10540.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
10542.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
一肩扛起協助這些學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
10542.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
10544.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
跟他的家庭甚至現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
10544.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
10546.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
我們還要統整社工的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
10546.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
10548.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
其實我們每一個老師變成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
10548.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
10550.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
一座孤島我覺得這個是偏鄉 |
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老師在面臨跟 |
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10554.91 |
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多會地區老師更大的困境 |
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那當然我知道因為我們今天下午要 |
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10558.91 |
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修偏鄉條例也非常多委員都 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
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很關心偏鄉教師的待遇的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
10560.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
10562.91 |
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偏鄉孩子失身筆的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
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或者是過去大家比較習慣 |
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關心的是偏鄉硬體設備啦 |
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10566.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
10568.91 |
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閱讀資源啦數位資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
10568.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
10570.91 |
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但是這些都是錢可以解決的問題 |
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我認為比較大的困境是 |
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10574.91 |
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沒有辦法解決就是包含我剛剛說 |
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10574.91 |
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10576.91 |
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這些行政事務我知道教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
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10578.91 |
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非常非常努力在做行政減量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
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但是減少的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
10582.91 |
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被從哪些地方加回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
10582.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
10584.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
可能不是教育部可以阻擇 |
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10584.91 |
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10586.91 |
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也不是教育部發動的但是卻還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
10586.91 |
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10588.91 |
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加了非常多行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
10588.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
10590.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
而最佳的這些事情卻可能大量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
10590.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
10592.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
消耗老師的心力所以老師自己變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
10592.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
10594.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
一座孤島我們比較希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
10594.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
10596.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
透過結構跟製作討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
10596.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
10598.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
來積極協助這些老師其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
10598.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
10600.91 |
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當老師狀況好了他回頭去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
10600.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
10602.91 |
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服務他的學生我相信孩子會過得更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
10602.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
10604.91 |
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那也有機會回過頭來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
10604.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
10606.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
我們辦公室過去一直在跟教育部講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
10606.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
10608.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
家庭教育功能也補上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
10608.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
10610.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
家庭教育補上來老師這裡補上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
10610.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
10612.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
孩子就有可能過得更好也許 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
10612.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
10614.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
我剛剛前面提到學歷落差的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
10614.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
10616.91 |
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就有可能逐年改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
10616.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
10618.91 |
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所以時間有限我就快速的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
10618.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
10620.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
現在整體橫向的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
10620.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
10622.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
失聯包含跟社政溝通機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
10622.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
10624.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
的失聯還有老師承擔了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
10624.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
10626.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
很多不屬於學校的責任還有過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
10626.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
10628.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
這一次修法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
10628.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
10630.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
我其實也想要提出來非山非市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
10630.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
10632.91 |
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的學校過去是美藝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
10632.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
10634.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
但是在偏鄉條例跟沒有偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
10634.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
10636.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
條例的情況下非山非市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
10636.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
10638.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
的學校反而是被併除在外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
10638.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
10640.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
包含沒有久任獎金沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
10640.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
10642.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
學士後的學分班這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
10642.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
10644.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
老師的福利完全被規範在外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
10644.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
10646.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
這個是我希望稍微有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
10646.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
10648.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
提到的而接下來我要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
10648.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
10650.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
最缺的不是錢而是人喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
10650.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
10652.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
講了這麼多我想我會具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
10652.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
10654.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
給出建議當然我不是只有給 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
10654.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
10656.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
出建議下一張我們辦公室後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
10656.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
10658.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
會持續要拜託跟教育部持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
10658.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
10660.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
的開會喔我們希望偏鄉教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
10660.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
10662.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
的很多問題我們可以透過跟社福 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
10662.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
10664.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
單位跟民間研究團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
10664.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
10666.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
甚至跟第一線的老師第一線的社工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
10666.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
10668.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
去討論因為讓社工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
10668.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
10670.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
工作量減輕讓老師工作量減輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
10670.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
10672.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
然後讓家長也可以得到支持孩子就有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
10672.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
10674.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
變得更好當然我希望下午 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
10674.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
10676.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
我們修訂偏鄉條例的時候有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
10676.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
10678.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
討論到還有家庭教育我要再一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
10678.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
10680.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
拜託教育部的家庭教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
10680.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
10682.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
我上一次已經說我們應該開發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
10682.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
10684.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
多元教育教案的可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
10684.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
10686.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
所謂多元的家庭教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
10686.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
10688.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
教案意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
10688.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
10690.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
在城市地區可能大家很習慣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
10690.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
10692.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
聽講座大家很習慣去工作方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
10692.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
10694.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
大家很習慣讀書會大家很習慣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
10694.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
10696.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
電影欣賞後討論家庭教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
10696.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
10698.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
但是在國外例如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
10698.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
10700.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
澳洲跟日本已經開發出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
10700.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
10702.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
適合不同鄉鎮的家庭教育方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
10702.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
10704.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
必須要去執行而不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
10704.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
10706.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
同一種概念去執行再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
10706.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
10708.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
我希望後續我們要跟衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
10708.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
10710.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
如何讓社福機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
10710.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
10712.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
有沒有機會提早介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
10712.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
10714.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
減輕老師的心理耗能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
10714.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
10716.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
而以孩子為中心的服務機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
10716.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
10718.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
又會是什麼樣子我認為衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
10718.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
10720.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
未來在以孩子們為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
10720.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
10722.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
中心去協助孩子們的時候其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
10722.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
10724.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
也很需要教育部的意見跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
10724.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
10726.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
教育部跨部會溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
10726.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
10728.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
這不是一個好解的題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
10728.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
10730.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
但是用我剛剛說的學歷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
10730.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
10732.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
能力落差這件事情越來越大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
10732.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
10734.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
其實我們越來越擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
10734.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
10736.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
未來會不會國家要付出更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
10736.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
10738.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
社福資源去協助這些孩子們長大後的家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
10738.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
10740.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
我認為我們及早介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
10740.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
10742.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
做更多事情可以更加積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
10742.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
10744.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
協助這些老師家長跟學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
10744.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
10746.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
好那時間有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
10746.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
10748.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
要不要市長請他回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
10748.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
10750.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
建議我們會來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
10750.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
10752.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
因為有的涉及到跟衛福部的跨部合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
10752.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
10754.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
有的是我們邊疆條裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
10754.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
10756.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
可以再增加資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
10756.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
10758.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
有的人力的部分我們也會來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
10758.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
10760.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
想辦法協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
10760.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
10762.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
謝謝 我想提出問題我們一步一步努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
10762.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
10764.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
謝謝市長 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
10764.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
10766.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
好非常感謝陳梅雨委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
10766.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
10768.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
請市長回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
10768.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
10770.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
接下來我們有請高金素梅委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
10775.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
10777.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
謝謝張委員請原理會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
10777.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
10779.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
杜中副主委教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
10779.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
10781.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
張廖萬堅次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
10782.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
10784.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
好請副主委請次長上被訓台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
10786.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
10788.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
今天是2026年的8月19號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
10789.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
10791.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
我記得在6月25號的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
10791.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
10793.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
我們的張委也是武力化張委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
10793.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
10795.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
他也安排了原住民族學校法的公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
10798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
10800.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
我們非常多的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
10800.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
10802.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
來到了立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
10802.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
10804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
滿懷熱誠的表述了各自的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
10804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
10806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
還有建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
10806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
10808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
並且我們也共同期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
10808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
10810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
原住民族的教育能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
10810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
10812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
更上一層樓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
10812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
10814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
也期待能夠推進原住民族學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
10814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
10816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
的實現自治 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
10816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
10818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
那今天我們的張委排了原住民學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
10818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
10820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
但是唯有幾個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
10820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
10822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
想要就教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
10822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
10824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
在6月25號公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
10824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
10826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
所有人的發言記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
10826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
10828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
還有他的書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
10828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
10830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
以及張委他做的結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
10830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
10832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
其實呢我們都 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
10832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
10834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
清清楚楚的已經打成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
10834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
10836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
逐字稿登載在立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
10836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
10838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
的公報上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
10838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
10840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
當時我們的張委有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
10840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
10842.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
今天與會的17位專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
10842.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
10844.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
學者假裝非常的好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
10844.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
10846.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
所以我們會盡速把它整理好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
10846.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
10848.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
也希望重新再有一個好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
10848.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
10850.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
版本 我不知道這個好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
10850.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
10852.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
版本是什麼樣的好的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
10852.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
10854.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
然後針對原民會和教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
10854.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
10856.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
一個是法令的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
10856.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
10858.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
另一個是主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
10858.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
10860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
我真是希望今天的公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
10860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
10862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
是沒有白開的 我們也承認 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
10862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
10864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
也許立法委員們的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
10864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
10866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
真的很不好 但是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
10866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
10868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
就是希望能夠討論出一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
10868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
10870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
可以帶動我們往前進的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
10871.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
10873.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
6月25號到現在8月19號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
10873.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
10875.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
已經過了一個多月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
10875.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
10877.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
張委所做的結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
10877.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
10879.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
所謂好的版本我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
10879.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
10881.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
那今天我們也沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
10881.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
10883.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
有所謂好的版本呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
10883.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
10885.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
而張委口中好的版本到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
10885.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
10887.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
好的版本呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
10887.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
10889.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
是原民會的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
10889.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
10891.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
教育部的版本還是我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
10891.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
10893.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
行政院會有很重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
10893.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
10895.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
原住民的學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
10895.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
10897.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
所以它會有版本 可是我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
10897.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
10899.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
也都沒看到啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
10899.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
10901.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
那公聽會結束之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
10901.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
10903.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
原民會教育部你們有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
10903.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
10905.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
開會凝出一個新的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
10906.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
10908.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
那我還是再講一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
10908.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
10910.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
所謂新的版本到底是院版 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
10910.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
10912.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
那這個院版是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
10912.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
10914.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
張委口中說的好的版本呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
10914.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
10916.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
所以可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
10916.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
10918.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
張委待會要說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
10918.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
10920.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
再來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
10920.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
10922.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
張委他後面的總結 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
10922.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
10924.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
他也做了幾個結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
10924.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
10926.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
第一個就是他希望教育部和原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
10926.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
10928.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
能夠儘速在一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
10928.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
10930.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
之內就所有的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
10930.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
10932.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
提出一個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
10932.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
10934.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
對於四位立法委員的修法方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
10934.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
10936.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
要提供給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
10936.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
10938.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
張委請求的一個月的出來報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
10938.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
10940.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
全報告在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
10940.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
10942.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
教育部阻責還是原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
10942.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
10944.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
阻責 那我提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
10944.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
10946.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
一下次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
10946.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
10948.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
次長你今天給我的這份 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
10948.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
10950.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
說明呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
10950.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
10952.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
其實是在昨天晚上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
10952.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
10954.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
我的辦公室要求你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
10954.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
10956.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
提出這個說明的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
10956.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
10958.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
你們才給我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
10958.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
10960.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
而原民會呢我們還是沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
10960.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
10962.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
你提出了什麼張委在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
10962.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
10964.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
6月25號的時候提出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
10964.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
10966.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
10966.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
10968.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
再來第二個今天公聽會所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
10968.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
10970.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
發言雖然會呈現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
10970.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
10972.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
公報的紀錄上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
10972.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
10974.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
但是我們也會中整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
10974.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
10976.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
一個版本發給今天與會的每一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
10978.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
10980.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
可是我們現在收到的自由立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
10980.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
10982.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
教育文化委員會的公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
10982.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
10984.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
紀錄啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
10984.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
10986.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
中整的一個版本發給與會的每一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
10986.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
10988.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
人員這個中和版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
10988.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
10990.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
到底是由哪一個單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
10990.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
10992.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
負責什麼時候可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
10992.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
10994.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
提供給我們呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
10994.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
10996.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
還是沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
10996.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
10998.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
然後第三個張委的結論是說希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
10998.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
11000.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
原民會跟教育部召集一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
11000.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
11002.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
原住民重點學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
11002.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
11004.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
原住民實驗學校以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
11004.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
11006.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
專家學者我們希望再開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
11006.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
11008.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
一次大會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
11008.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
11010.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
6月25號以後一直到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
11010.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
11012.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
今天張委排了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
11012.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
11014.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
學校法的審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
11014.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
11016.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
請問這中間你們有開會嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
11017.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
11019.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
哪一位要回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
11022.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
11024.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
針對委員剛剛提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
11024.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
11026.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
所謂公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
11026.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
11028.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
我也有來參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
11028.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
11030.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
相關要提出來的一些報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
11030.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
11032.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
事實上有提給這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
11032.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
11034.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
11034.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
11036.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
就是你今天的這個報告嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
11036.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
11038.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
不是不是這個我們另外有提一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
11038.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
11040.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
正式的公文給 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
11040.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
11042.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
11042.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
11044.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
我並沒有拿到啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
11044.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
11046.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
我們整理過的說明的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
11046.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
11048.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
那天公聽會我也有去啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
11048.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
11050.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
為什麼我們手上沒有呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
11050.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
11052.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
好請問一下我可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
11052.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
11054.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
請你們簡單請你們簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
11054.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
11056.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
的說張委那天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
11056.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
11058.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
做的總結論你們的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
11058.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
11060.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
你們的結論是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
11060.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
11062.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
到底有沒有新的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
11062.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
11064.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
還是現在還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
11064.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
11066.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
按照張委所說的結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
11066.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
11068.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
說幾個委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
11068.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
11070.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
不是很好所以我們還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
11070.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
11072.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
要用這幾個不是很好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
11072.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
11074.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
版本再來審我們現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
11074.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
11076.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
11076.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
11078.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
委員我們是不是請張委長來回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
11079.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
11081.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
面板也好還是什麼誰的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
11081.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
11083.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
誰的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
11084.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
11086.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
好官務委員報告在原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
11086.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
11088.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
目前在推動整個原住民學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
11088.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
11090.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
的計畫上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
11090.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
11092.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
我們希望透過我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
11092.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
11094.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
現行的原住民組實驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
11095.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
11097.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
委託是那個委託學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
11097.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
11099.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
私人辦學這樣的一個實驗教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
11099.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
11101.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
條例來推動我想就可以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
11101.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
11103.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
讓我們去所以我可不可以簡單講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
11103.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
11105.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
不管是原民會也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
11105.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
11107.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
教育部也好或者是最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
11107.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
11109.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
行政院也好你們都不會提版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
11109.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
11111.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
我們目前的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
11111.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
11113.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
是先透過實驗教育條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
11113.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
11115.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
來推動原住民組學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
11115.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
11117.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
那讓這個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
11117.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
11119.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
張委同意嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
11119.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
11121.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
沒有版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
11121.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
11123.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
請問一下張委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
11123.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
11125.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
謝謝高進說會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
11125.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
11127.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
我們先暫停一下好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
11127.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
11129.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
暫停時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
11129.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
11131.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
上次做出結論之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
11131.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
11133.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
我有主動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
11133.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
11137.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
去跟辦公室要這份報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
11137.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
11139.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
因此我們也 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
11139.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
11141.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
啟動重新再提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
11141.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
11143.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
一個版本所以我在7月31號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
11143.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
11145.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
的時候已經擬出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
11145.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
11147.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
新的版本所以併入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
11147.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
11149.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
所以這次的六個版本當中我個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
11149.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
11151.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
有兩個版本一個是原來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
11151.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
11153.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
版本另外一個是根據公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
11153.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
11155.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
召開之後所有的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
11155.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
11157.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
我再重修一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
11157.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
11159.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
那當然我對於教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
11159.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
11161.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
跟原民會還是沒有提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
11161.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
11163.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
版本這件事情我也是不認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
11163.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
11165.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
要繼續要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
11165.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
11167.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
好謝謝原民會我可不可以就你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
11167.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
11169.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
今天的書面報告你的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
11169.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
11171.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
我幫你更講的完整好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
11171.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
11173.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
你說整體而言才 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
11173.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
11175.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
公辦民意的模式推動原住民組學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
11175.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
11177.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
深具雙重的優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
11177.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
11179.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
在教育層面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
11179.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
11181.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
能夠透過文化傳承跟主語的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].start |
11181.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].end |
11183.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].text |
澄清方式提升學生的學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
11183.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].end |
11185.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].text |
成效在制度層面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].start |
11185.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
11187.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
可以形成可複製 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
11187.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
11189.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
而且可持續的發展模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
11189.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
11191.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
來確保整體原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
11191.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
11193.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
教育政策更具長期的穩定性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
11193.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
11195.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
所以未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
11195.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].end |
11197.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
你們會致力於建構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
11197.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
11199.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
從幼兒園到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
11199.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].end |
11201.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].text |
高等教育完整原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
11201.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].end |
11203.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
教育體系使各階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
11203.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
11205.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
學習能夠完整的銜接 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
11205.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
11207.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
然後要培養 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
11207.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
11209.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
根據文化根基語言能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
11209.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
11211.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
跟現代競爭力的新 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
11211.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
11213.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
世代原住民透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
11213.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
11215.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
透過此重向的整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
11215.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
11217.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
你只是重向的整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
11217.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].end |
11219.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
原住民族教育將在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
11219.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
11221.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
文化永續跟教育主權上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
11221.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
11223.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
獲得穩健的落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
11223.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
11225.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
並成為台灣教育體系中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
11225.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
11227.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
具代表性的創新模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
11227.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
11229.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
這是你今天在說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
11229.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
11231.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
所以這是你們的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
11231.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
11233.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
所以你們也沒有跟行政院說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
11233.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
11235.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
希望提行政院版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
11236.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
11238.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
目前我們的政策評估時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
11238.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
11240.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
不需要再提出新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
11240.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
11242.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
來教育部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
11242.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
11244.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
你們的結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
11244.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
11246.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
我就看一下你給我今天的書面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
11246.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
11248.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
報告你說原住民族學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
11248.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
11250.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
是各界相當關注的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
11250.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
11252.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
為了要健全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
11252.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
11254.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
原住民族教育體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
11254.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
11256.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
本部將持續配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
11256.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
11258.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
原民會來規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
11258.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
11260.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
就法規制度課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
11260.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
11262.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
師資培育等面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
11262.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
11264.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
來共同維護原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
11264.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
11266.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
教育權逐步完善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
11266.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
11268.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
原住民族教育體系的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
11268.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
11270.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
制度連結跟發展條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
11270.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
11272.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
以促進原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
11272.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
11274.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
教育的穩健推展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
11274.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
11276.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
這是教育部的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
11276.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
11278.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
跟書面的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
11278.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
11280.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
11280.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
11282.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
你們還是沒有提你們要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
11282.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
11284.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
你們的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
11285.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
11287.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
我們沒有我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
11287.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
11289.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
配合原民會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
11289.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
11291.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
所以今天我們可以很確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
11291.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
11293.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
一行政院並沒有要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
11293.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
11295.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
提學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
11295.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
11297.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
二教育部是要針對原民會的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
11297.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
11299.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
然後你們給他協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
11299.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
11301.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
三 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
11301.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
11303.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
原民會你們也沒有跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
11303.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
11305.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
行政院或者是任何 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
11305.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
11307.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
政務委員要請行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
11307.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
11309.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
提出學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
11309.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
11311.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
這個行政院也就是我們執政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
11311.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
11313.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
民進黨對於原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
11313.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
11315.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
學校的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
11315.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
11317.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
所以呢完全都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
11317.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
11319.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
我們立法委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
11319.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
11321.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
最後我要提醒各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
11322.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
11324.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
賴清德總統他在競選 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
11324.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
11326.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
政見裡面有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
11326.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
11328.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
尤其原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
11328.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
11330.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
你們要聽好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
11330.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
11332.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
如果你們沒有提版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
11332.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
11334.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
教育部沒有提版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
11334.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
11336.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
我希望行政院能夠針對賴清德總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
11336.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
11338.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
的競選 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
11338.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
11340.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
政見對原住民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
11340.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
11342.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
競選政見提出他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
11342.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
11344.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
負責他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
11347.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
11349.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
賴總統希望提出國家希望工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
11349.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
11351.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
跟原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
11351.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
11353.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
教育政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
11353.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
11355.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
最直接相關者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
11355.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
11357.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
為逐步發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
11357.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
11359.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
雙軌制的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
11359.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
11361.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
原住民族教育體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
11361.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
11363.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
積極回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
11363.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
11365.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
原住民族社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
11365.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
11367.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
與原住民族運動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
11367.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
11369.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
時期也就是原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
11369.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
11371.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
的學校原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
11371.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
11373.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
的自治 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
11373.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
11375.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
的教育體系是在原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
11375.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
11377.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
運動時期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
11377.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
11379.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
也就是民進黨政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
11379.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
11381.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
你們跟原住民攜手在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
11381.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
11383.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
闖原住民運動的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
11383.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
11385.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
共同已經發願 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
11385.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
11387.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
跟目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
11387.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
11389.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
他說我們這些原住民運動時期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
11389.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
11391.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].text |
提出的族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
11391.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
11393.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
我們有權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
11393.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
11395.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].text |
使用自己的語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].start |
11395.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].end |
11397.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].text |
要進行教學以及設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].start |
11397.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].end |
11399.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].text |
自己的學校的訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].start |
11399.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].end |
11401.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].text |
雙軌制的原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].start |
11401.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].end |
11403.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].text |
教育體系的法源依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].start |
11403.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].end |
11405.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].text |
是什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].start |
11406.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].end |
11408.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].text |
不就是原住民族學校法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].start |
11408.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].end |
11410.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].text |
原民會教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].start |
11411.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].end |
11413.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].text |
當然總統的政見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].start |
11413.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
11415.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].text |
也就是行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].start |
11415.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].end |
11417.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].text |
必須要提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].start |
11417.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].end |
11419.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].text |
你們當然是責無旁貸的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
11419.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].end |
11421.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].text |
否則你們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].start |
11421.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].end |
11423.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].text |
陷賴總統與不義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].start |
11424.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].end |
11426.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].text |
然後我也請召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].start |
11426.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
11428.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
要求各單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].start |
11428.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
11430.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
儘速把6月25號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
11430.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
11432.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
公聽會的結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
11432.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
11434.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
的資料補齊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].start |
11434.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
11436.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
並且提供給大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
11436.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
11438.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
而不是現在只有召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
11438.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
11440.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
手上的那一份 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
11440.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
11442.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
然後我還是要再提一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].start |
11442.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
11444.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
好的謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].start |
11444.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].end |
11446.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].text |
我要再提一下其實原住民學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].start |
11446.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].end |
11448.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].text |
大家都非常的關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].start |
11448.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].end |
11450.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].text |
我們有非常多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].start |
11450.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].end |
11452.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].text |
研究人員呢其實你在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].start |
11452.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].end |
11454.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].text |
路上都看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].start |
11454.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].end |
11456.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
他說呢這位我就不指明他是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].start |
11456.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].end |
11458.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].text |
但是是我們原住民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].start |
11458.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].end |
11460.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].text |
自己的專家學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].start |
11460.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].end |
11462.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
他說原住民學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].start |
11462.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].end |
11464.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].text |
是在比較分析立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].start |
11464.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].end |
11466.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].text |
第一十一屆會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].start |
11466.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].end |
11468.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].text |
其中由吳立華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].start |
11468.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].end |
11470.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].text |
黃仁委員高金素美委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].start |
11470.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].end |
11472.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].text |
等分別領銜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].start |
11472.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].end |
11474.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].text |
提出的三個原住民族學校法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].start |
11474.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].end |
11476.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].text |
三個原住民族學校法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].start |
11477.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].end |
11479.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].text |
版本研究呢從法學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].start |
11479.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].end |
11481.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].text |
跟教育學的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].start |
11481.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].end |
11483.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].text |
雙重觀點來解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].start |
11483.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].end |
11485.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].text |
各草案的立法背景 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].start |
11485.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].end |
11487.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
還有它的核心架構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
11487.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].end |
11489.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].text |
還有它的立法精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].start |
11489.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].end |
11491.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
權責的劃分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
11491.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].end |
11493.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
權力的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].start |
11493.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].end |
11495.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
課程的設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].start |
11495.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].end |
11497.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
師資的培育學生權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].start |
11497.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
11499.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
等等面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
11499.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].end |
11501.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
這些其實呢我們每個委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].start |
11501.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
11503.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
版本都有結果他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
11503.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
11505.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
發現了三個版本的草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].start |
11505.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].end |
11507.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
在立法宗旨上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
11507.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].end |
11509.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
均高度重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].start |
11509.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].end |
11511.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
民族尊嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
11511.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
11513.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
語言文化傳承跟教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
11513.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
11515.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
自主的治理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
11515.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
11517.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
但是在學校的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
11517.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].end |
11519.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
主管機關的設定還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
11519.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
11521.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
課程自主性的方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].start |
11521.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].end |
11523.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
存在關鍵的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
11523.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
11525.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
其實呢我們只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
11525.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].end |
11527.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
一點點的差異這個差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
11527.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
11529.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
如果要來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].start |
11529.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
11531.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
高金版本的草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
11531.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].end |
11533.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
更強調的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
11533.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].end |
11535.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
教育自決權跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].start |
11535.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
11537.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
國際人權標準的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].start |
11537.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
11539.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
接軌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].start |
11539.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].end |
11541.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
主張應該要以原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].start |
11541.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
11543.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
作為主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
11543.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
11545.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
並且要設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
11545.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
11547.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
原住民族教育署 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
11547.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
11549.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
研究最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
11549.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
11551.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].text |
來提出中和 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
11551.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
11553.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
版本的建議希望未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
11553.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
11555.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
的立法跟政策制定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].start |
11555.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].end |
11557.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
提供參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].start |
11557.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
11559.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].text |
這是我的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].start |
11559.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
11561.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].text |
其實這也是我們非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
11561.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
11563.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
族人希望原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
11563.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].end |
11565.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].text |
擔起這個責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].start |
11565.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
11567.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].text |
如果原民會你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].start |
11567.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
11569.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
目前擔不起責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].start |
11569.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].end |
11571.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].text |
你就必須要跟總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].start |
11571.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].end |
11573.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].text |
或行政院長討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].start |
11575.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].end |
11577.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].text |
要給你們人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].start |
11577.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].end |
11579.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].text |
要給你們錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].start |
11579.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].end |
11581.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].text |
我相信有人有錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].start |
11581.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].end |
11583.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].text |
制度方面在場的每一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].start |
11583.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].end |
11585.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].text |
都是專家學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].start |
11585.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].end |
11587.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].text |
我們不可能會提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].start |
11587.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].end |
11589.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].text |
不好的版本跟建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].start |
11589.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].end |
11591.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].text |
所以我要再請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].start |
11591.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].end |
11593.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].text |
原民會你們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].start |
11593.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].end |
11595.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].text |
最大的問題是不是沒有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].start |
11595.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].end |
11597.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].text |
沒有錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].start |
11596.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].end |
11598.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].text |
而不是你們沒有這個責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].start |
11598.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].end |
11600.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].text |
來分擔起 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].start |
11600.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].end |
11602.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].text |
來自主決定原住民教育的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].start |
11602.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].end |
11604.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].text |
當然就原民會來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].start |
11604.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].end |
11606.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].text |
有關原住民事務我們當然是責無盤大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].start |
11606.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].end |
11608.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].text |
應該是要積極的去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].start |
11608.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].end |
11610.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].text |
但是委員也很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].start |
11610.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].end |
11612.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].text |
我們確實人在資源上跟各項經費上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].start |
11612.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].end |
11614.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].text |
事實上有我們的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].start |
11614.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].end |
11616.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].text |
那就是說給原民會我們後面做出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].start |
11616.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].end |
11618.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].text |
如果又不符合大家的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].start |
11618.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].end |
11620.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].text |
我想原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].start |
11620.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].end |
11622.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].text |
這麼長一段時間站在您後面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].start |
11622.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].end |
11624.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].text |
我們的陳處長對於原住民族教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].start |
11624.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].end |
11626.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].text |
他非常熟悉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].start |
11626.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].end |
11628.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].text |
原住民族現在的實驗教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].start |
11628.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].end |
11630.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].text |
也是在你手上伸出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].start |
11630.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].end |
11632.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].text |
我相信我們大家都期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].start |
11632.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].end |
11634.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].text |
既然民進黨政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].start |
11634.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].end |
11636.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].text |
既然賴清德總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].start |
11636.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].end |
11638.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].text |
已經有給原住民承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].start |
11638.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].end |
11640.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].text |
在選舉的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].start |
11640.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].end |
11642.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].text |
他希望雙軌來做原住民族的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].start |
11644.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].end |
11646.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].text |
那麼就請他來實現對原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].start |
11648.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].end |
11650.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].text |
曾經的教育理念 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].start |
11650.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].end |
11652.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].text |
跟他的承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].start |
11652.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].end |
11654.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].text |
希望原民會也大膽的跟總統說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].start |
11654.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].end |
11656.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].text |
如果你們真的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].start |
11656.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].end |
11658.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].text |
如果你們真的把原住民族的族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].start |
11658.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].end |
11660.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].text |
當作你的好朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].start |
11660.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].end |
11662.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].text |
當作您的夥伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].start |
11662.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].end |
11664.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].text |
當作台灣的主人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].start |
11664.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].end |
11666.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].text |
就請你把人跟資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].start |
11666.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].end |
11668.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].text |
交給原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].start |
11668.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].end |
11670.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].text |
我相信以原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].start |
11670.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].end |
11672.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].text |
這麼長時間做原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].start |
11672.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].end |
11674.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].text |
民族的所謂實驗教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].start |
11674.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].end |
11676.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].text |
你們很有經驗了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].start |
11676.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].end |
11678.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].text |
好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].start |
11678.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].end |
11680.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].text |
大膽的說出我們原住民族的實驗教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].start |
11680.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].end |
11682.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].text |
好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].start |
11682.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].end |
11684.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].text |
大膽的說出我們期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].start |
11684.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].end |
11686.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].text |
行政院的原住民族學校法的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].start |
11686.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].end |
11688.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].text |
不要再推給 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].start |
11688.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].end |
11690.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].text |
所有的原住民立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].start |
11690.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].end |
11692.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].text |
當然我們可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].start |
11692.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].end |
11694.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].text |
如果沒有行政院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].start |
11694.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].end |
11696.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].text |
我們當然也可以審了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].start |
11696.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].end |
11698.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].text |
但是到時候不要說我們的版本不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].start |
11698.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].end |
11700.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].start |
11701.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].end |
11703.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].start |
11703.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].end |
11705.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].text |
謝謝高金素美委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].start |
11705.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].end |
11707.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].text |
請官員回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].start |
11707.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].end |
11709.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].text |
我在這邊也補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].start |
11709.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].end |
11711.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].text |
在之前的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].start |
11711.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].end |
11713.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].text |
我也有最後做出一個訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].start |
11714.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].end |
11716.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].text |
一個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].start |
11715.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].end |
11717.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].text |
要請教育部原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].start |
11717.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].end |
11719.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].text |
有一個平台會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].start |
11719.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].end |
11721.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].text |
把公聽會的修法意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].start |
11721.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].end |
11723.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].text |
跟這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].start |
11723.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].end |
11725.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].text |
所有六個草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].start |
11725.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].end |
11727.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].text |
版本做出一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].start |
11728.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].end |
11730.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].text |
比較還有修法意見的對照表 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].start |
11730.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].end |
11732.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].text |
一個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].start |
11732.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].end |
11734.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].text |
要送給 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].start |
11734.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].end |
11736.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].text |
我們今天參與的所有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].start |
11736.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].end |
11738.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].start |
11738.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].end |
11740.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].start |
11741.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].end |
11743.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].text |
因為我們的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].start |
11743.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].end |
11745.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].text |
原本預定到12點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].start |
11745.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].end |
11747.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].text |
現在時間有點緊迫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].start |
11747.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].end |
11749.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].text |
後續還有好幾位委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].start |
11749.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].end |
11751.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].text |
所以請大家在時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].start |
11751.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].end |
11753.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].text |
上面能夠尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].start |
11753.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].end |
11755.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].text |
我們的管控的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].start |
11755.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].end |
11757.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].text |
請各位委員諒解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].start |
11757.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].end |
11759.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].text |
我們現在上午 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].start |
11759.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].end |
11761.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].text |
的會議時間繼續進行到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].start |
11761.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].end |
11763.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].text |
登記發言委員質詢完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].start |
11763.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].end |
11765.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].text |
接下來有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].start |
11765.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].end |
11767.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].text |
林茜琪委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].start |
11779.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].end |
11781.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].start |
11781.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].end |
11783.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].text |
謝謝主席焦委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].start |
11783.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].end |
11785.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].text |
本席請教育部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].start |
11785.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].end |
11787.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].text |
我們叫次長跟原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].start |
11787.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].end |
11789.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].text |
我們今天是杜章副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].start |
11789.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].end |
11791.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].text |
有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].start |
11791.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].end |
11793.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].text |
副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].start |
11795.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].end |
11797.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].text |
謝謝請教兩位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].start |
11797.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].end |
11799.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].text |
次長主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].start |
11799.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].end |
11801.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].text |
本席今天要請教我們在原住民族學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].start |
11801.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].end |
11803.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].text |
草案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].start |
11803.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].end |
11805.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].text |
一個很關鍵的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].start |
11805.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].end |
11807.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].text |
食物問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].start |
11807.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].end |
11809.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].text |
原住民族學校教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].start |
11809.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].end |
11811.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].text |
的族羽能力的門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].start |
11811.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].end |
11813.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].text |
應該要怎麼設計才能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].start |
11813.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].end |
11815.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].text |
同時兼顧原知識體系的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].start |
11815.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].end |
11817.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].text |
傳承跟師資的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].start |
11817.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].end |
11819.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].text |
量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].start |
11819.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].end |
11821.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].text |
當然在上次的公聽會大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].start |
11821.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].end |
11823.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].text |
提出很多意見所以也值得我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].start |
11823.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].end |
11825.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].text |
再思考然後我們再來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].start |
11825.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].end |
11827.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].text |
所以當我們在推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].start |
11827.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].end |
11829.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].text |
各級原住民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].start |
11829.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].end |
11831.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].text |
最重要的目的也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].start |
11831.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].end |
11833.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
希望原住民族的這個文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].start |
11833.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].end |
11835.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].text |
知識體系能夠進入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].start |
11835.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].end |
11837.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].text |
學校的日常而不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].start |
11837.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].end |
11839.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].text |
現在看起來相對的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].start |
11839.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].end |
11841.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].text |
點綴性所以師資 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].start |
11841.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].end |
11843.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].text |
具備一定的程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].start |
11843.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].end |
11845.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].text |
的族羽能力這個我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].start |
11845.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].end |
11847.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].text |
都是各界在討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].start |
11847.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].end |
11849.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].text |
也是一些大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].start |
11849.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].end |
11851.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].text |
的想法跟期待所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].start |
11851.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].end |
11853.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].text |
現在草案的思考方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].start |
11853.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].end |
11855.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].text |
是希望教師的族羽能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].start |
11855.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].end |
11857.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].text |
能夠達到族羽支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].start |
11857.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].end |
11859.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].text |
學科教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].start |
11859.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].end |
11861.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].text |
與學生互動還有理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].start |
11861.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].end |
11863.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].text |
部落文化脈絡的程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].start |
11863.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].end |
11865.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].text |
但是現在因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].start |
11865.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].end |
11867.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].text |
也有這個都會原住民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].start |
11867.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].end |
11869.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].text |
一個可能性喔但是整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].start |
11869.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].end |
11871.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].text |
食物上我們究竟要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].start |
11871.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].end |
11873.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].text |
定在中級 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].start |
11873.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].end |
11875.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].text |
中高級還是高級 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].start |
11875.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].end |
11877.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].text |
那這會不會直接影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].start |
11877.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].end |
11879.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].text |
未來學校能不能找到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].start |
11879.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].end |
11881.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].text |
足夠而且合適的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].start |
11881.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].end |
11883.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].text |
教師那本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].start |
11883.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].end |
11885.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].text |
就這個問題先請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].start |
11885.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].end |
11887.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].text |
我們園民會我們杜章 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].start |
11887.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].end |
11889.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].text |
副主委所以如果從 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].start |
11889.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].end |
11891.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].text |
語言附贈跟文化傳承 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].start |
11891.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].end |
11893.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].text |
的角度來看那你認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].start |
11893.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].end |
11895.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].text |
原住民族學校這個可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].start |
11895.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].end |
11897.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].text |
也要考量到各級學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].start |
11897.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].end |
11899.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].text |
如果未來是朝這樣一個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].start |
11899.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].end |
11901.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].text |
的話那麼正式的教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].start |
11901.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].end |
11903.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].text |
應該具備哪一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].start |
11903.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].end |
11905.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].text |
哪一個層次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].start |
11905.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].end |
11907.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].text |
族羽認證級別 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].start |
11907.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].end |
11909.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].text |
才足以撐起學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].start |
11909.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].end |
11911.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].text |
以文化作為核心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].start |
11911.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].end |
11913.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].text |
教育目標但是你要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].start |
11913.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].end |
11915.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].text |
考量到各級因為我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].start |
11915.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].end |
11917.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].text |
雖然還沒有考慮到那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].start |
11917.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].end |
11919.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].text |
沒有就各級來做那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].start |
11919.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].end |
11921.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].text |
整面的討論但是 |
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11921.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].end |
11923.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].text |
這是在我們朝向原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].start |
11923.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].end |
11925.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].text |
學校一個整體體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].start |
11925.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].end |
11927.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].text |
從基礎到高教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].start |
11927.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].end |
11929.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].text |
我們都要考慮進去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].start |
11929.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].end |
11931.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].text |
每一個層次其實是有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].start |
11931.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].end |
11933.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].text |
不同的核心學養 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].start |
11933.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].end |
11935.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].text |
所以如果在中高級 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].start |
11935.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].end |
11937.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].text |
是不是足以應付一般教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].start |
11937.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].end |
11939.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].text |
及校園生活的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].start |
11939.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].end |
11941.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].text |
使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].start |
11940.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].end |
11942.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].text |
那如果到高級當然文化跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].start |
11942.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].end |
11944.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].text |
語言的能力會更為完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].start |
11944.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].end |
11946.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].text |
但是原民會目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].start |
11946.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].end |
11948.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].text |
有沒有掌握到各族真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].start |
11948.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].end |
11950.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].text |
通過高級認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].start |
11950.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].end |
11952.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].text |
但是又具備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].start |
11952.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].end |
11954.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].text |
我們講各級學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].start |
11954.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].end |
11956.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].text |
教師能力的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].start |
11956.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].end |
11958.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].text |
那麼這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].start |
11958.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].end |
11960.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].text |
本席請你們說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].start |
11960.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].end |
11962.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].text |
從原民會的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].start |
11962.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].end |
11964.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].text |
那麼認為中高級 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].start |
11964.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].end |
11966.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].text |
作為基本門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].start |
11967.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].end |
11969.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].text |
還是說高級作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].start |
11969.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].end |
11971.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].text |
作為高級作為鼓勵的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].start |
11971.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].end |
11973.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].text |
還是說高級直接作為正式評論的門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].start |
11973.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].end |
11975.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].text |
哪一種可能比較兼顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].start |
11975.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].end |
11977.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].text |
文化品質跟制度的可行性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].start |
11979.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].end |
11981.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].text |
如果就目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].start |
11981.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].end |
11983.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].text |
大家的草案方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].start |
11983.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].end |
11985.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].text |
其實這個部分應該是相對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].start |
11985.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].end |
11987.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].text |
更細囉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].start |
11987.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].end |
11989.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].text |
但是你們在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].start |
11989.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].end |
11991.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].text |
主語的各個層次還有各級的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].start |
11991.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].end |
11993.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].text |
你們目前有沒有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].start |
11994.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].end |
11996.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].text |
概念呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].start |
11996.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].end |
11998.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].text |
在經過上次其實在工地會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].start |
11998.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].end |
12000.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].text |
有一些學者做一些討論嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].start |
12000.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].end |
12002.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].text |
跟我也說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].start |
12001.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].end |
12003.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].text |
那個主語當然在我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].start |
12003.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].end |
12005.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].text |
原住民主語的學校裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].start |
12005.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].end |
12007.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].text |
是一個很重要的語言表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].start |
12007.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].end |
12009.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].text |
也是表示原住民文化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].start |
12009.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].end |
12011.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].text |
主體性啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].start |
12011.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].end |
12013.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].text |
但是委員也知道說在高級的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].start |
12013.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].end |
12015.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].text |
事實上我們認證通過的並沒有那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].start |
12015.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].end |
12017.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].text |
但是教學是不是一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].start |
12017.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].end |
12019.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].text |
用高級的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].start |
12019.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].end |
12021.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].text |
主語認證高級的這樣的一個資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].start |
12021.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].end |
12023.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].text |
才有辦法當老師我想這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].start |
12023.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].end |
12025.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].text |
可以討論而且我們覺得在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].start |
12025.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].end |
12027.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].text |
在跟教學上面事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].start |
12027.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].end |
12029.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].text |
我們也可以透過這個主語教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].start |
12029.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].end |
12031.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].text |
的協力的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].start |
12031.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].end |
12033.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].text |
有一些部落的祈禱的主語非常的好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].start |
12033.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].end |
12035.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].text |
也可以來協助 |
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12035.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].end |
12037.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].text |
但是如果說要訂他的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].start |
12037.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].end |
12039.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].text |
每一個階級比如說是大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].start |
12039.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].end |
12041.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].text |
高中國中國小可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].start |
12041.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].end |
12043.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].text |
中高級也有可能可以當 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].start |
12043.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].end |
12045.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].text |
的這個在主語上面是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].start |
12045.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].end |
12047.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].text |
支援的所以在整個的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].start |
12047.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].end |
12049.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].text |
的應做上我們資訊會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].start |
12049.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].end |
12051.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].text |
也有掌握這些主語教師的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].start |
12051.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].end |
12053.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].text |
相對的這些人數跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].start |
12053.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].end |
12055.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].text |
支援我們都有在做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].start |
12055.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
12057.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
同盤性的一個考量跟評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].start |
12057.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
12059.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
所以針對剛才那個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].start |
12059.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
12061.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
您認為目前通過高級認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].start |
12061.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
12063.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
具備相關能力的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].start |
12063.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
12065.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
大概你有一個概念嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].start |
12066.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
12068.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
可以簡單回應嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].start |
12069.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
12071.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
不多啦但是我們再提供給委員好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].start |
12071.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
12073.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
我們有去調查過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].start |
12074.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
12076.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
那這個部分因為是大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].start |
12076.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].end |
12078.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
共同都會討論的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].start |
12078.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
12080.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
可惜本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].start |
12080.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
12082.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
本席在這邊實際上提醒你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].start |
12082.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].end |
12084.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
那麼各級學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].start |
12084.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].end |
12086.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].text |
在這樣一個概念上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].start |
12086.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].end |
12088.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].text |
你們是不是在實務上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].start |
12088.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].end |
12090.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].text |
其實現在就他就是一個很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].start |
12090.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].end |
12092.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].text |
挑戰跟難題囉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].start |
12092.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].end |
12094.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
那如果剛才我聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].start |
12094.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].end |
12096.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].text |
那個高經委員這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].start |
12096.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].end |
12098.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].text |
講我認為你們的進度上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].start |
12098.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].end |
12100.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].text |
是不是還沒有思考到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].start |
12100.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].end |
12102.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].text |
這個層面可是應該在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].start |
12102.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
12104.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
中聽會還有大家提出的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].start |
12104.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
12106.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
其實都已經有這個相關的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].start |
12106.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].end |
12108.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].text |
你們可能應該要趕快追上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].start |
12108.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
12110.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
這樣一個進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].start |
12110.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].end |
12112.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
我們有在做調查在做了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].start |
12112.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
12114.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
那你們也要了解各級學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].start |
12114.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].end |
12116.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
真正的核心學養 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].start |
12116.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
12118.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
然後跟實際的狀況才不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].start |
12118.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
12120.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
當大家以一個文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
12120.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].end |
12122.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
概念還有一個原住民族的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
12122.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].end |
12124.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
教育整體性完整性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
12124.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
12126.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
的制度面來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
12126.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
12128.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
思考的時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
12128.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
12130.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].text |
就在實務面你們可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
12130.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].end |
12132.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].text |
對教育體系不是那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
12132.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].end |
12134.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
深入的了解的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
12134.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
12136.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
到最後可能產生很大的落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
12136.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
12138.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
那本席今天其實是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
12138.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
12140.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
族語的這個部分先跟你們提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
12140.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
12142.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
那不僅就教也希望你們能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
12142.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
12144.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
趕快的就各級學校 |
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12144.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
12146.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
這個部分做一個思考 |
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12146.6 |
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12148.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
那接下來本席請教一下我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
12148.6 |
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12150.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
次長喔江樂次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
12150.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
12152.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
是 那您是比較熟悉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
12152.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
12154.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
所謂師資培育跟教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
12154.6 |
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12156.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
聘任現場 |
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12156.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
12158.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
那本席這邊談到喔就是我們從很基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
12158.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
12160.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
一直到高教 |
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12160.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
12162.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
那應該有很多不同 |
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12162.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
12164.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
層次而且非常每一個 |
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12164.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
12166.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
平台應該都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
12166.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
12168.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
很大的差異 |
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12168.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
12170.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
所以我們如果把 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
12170.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
12172.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
這個族語的門檻 |
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12172.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
12174.6 |
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定的很低可能各界 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
12174.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
12176.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
會認為不足以支撐原住民 |
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12176.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
12178.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
族學校的特色跟目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
12178.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
12180.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
但是呢如果一開始 |
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12180.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
12182.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
就全面要求的很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
12182.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
12184.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
或者所謂的高級 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
12184.6 |
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12186.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
那麼這個很多的教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
12186.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
12188.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
的專業文化的素養 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
12188.6 |
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12190.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
還有族語能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
12190.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
12192.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
已經達到相當 |
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12192.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
12194.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
程度的優秀教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
12194.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
12196.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
你們是不是認為可以採取 |
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12196.6 |
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12198.6 |
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分階段的一個設計 |
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12199.1 |
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12201.1 |
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你們這方面的看法呢 |
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12201.1 |
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12203.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
我不知道你們有沒有深入研究這個部分 |
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12203.1 |
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12205.1 |
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而且我相信你們在高教體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
12205.1 |
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12207.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
也應該有一些了解嘛 |
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12207.1 |
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12209.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
所以如果說以中高級進入原住民族學校 |
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12209.1 |
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12211.1 |
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的這個基礎 |
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12211.1 |
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12213.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
那麼教師進用後透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
12213.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
12215.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
不同的培訓向再次進修 |
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12215.1 |
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12217.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
或族語培訓或認證機制 |
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12217.1 |
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12219.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
在一定的連線裡面 |
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12219.1 |
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12221.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
提升到高級 |
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12221.1 |
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12223.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
這樣的可能性是如何 |
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12223.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
12225.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
那當然還是牽扯到 |
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12225.1 |
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12227.1 |
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各級學校 |
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12227.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
12229.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
具體的一些這個 |
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12229.1 |
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12231.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
想法 |
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12231.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
12233.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
我請負責人副市長跟您回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
12233.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
12235.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
好 跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
12235.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
12237.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
我們針對師資培育的這一塊 |
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12237.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
12239.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
目前的規範是只有教 |
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12239.1 |
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12241.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
族語的老師他才有 |
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12241.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
12243.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
原門檻的規範 |
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12243.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
12245.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
至於未來原 |
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12245.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
12247.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
就目前的規範是這樣的 |
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12247.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
12249.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
如果是國小的師資的話 |
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12249.1 |
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12251.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
他需要到族語的中高級 |
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12251.1 |
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12253.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
國小相關的規範我們都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
12253.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
12255.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
可是本席這邊 |
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12255.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
12257.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
請你們試考的是 |
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12257.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
12259.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
當原住民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
12259.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
12261.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
學校法裡面討論的 |
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12261.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
12263.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
其實是各級學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
12263.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
12265.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
那我想你們應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
12265.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
12267.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
不是只有基礎教育的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
12267.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
12269.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
一個師培的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
12269.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
12271.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
我講比較務實的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
12271.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
12273.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
假設大學的相關教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
12273.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
12275.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
你要把專業知能 |
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12275.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
12277.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
用族語 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
12277.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
12279.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
或者是用原住民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
12279.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
12281.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
文化方式來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].start |
12281.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
12283.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].text |
呈現的話是不是前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
12283.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].end |
12285.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].text |
我相信你們對教材都 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].start |
12285.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].end |
12287.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].text |
很了解嗎 那教材這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].start |
12287.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].end |
12289.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].text |
你們目前的一個準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].start |
12289.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].end |
12291.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].text |
跟討論是什麼 |
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12291.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].end |
12293.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].text |
這其實很多很多很細的這個部分 |
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12293.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].end |
12295.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].text |
那如果以本席剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].start |
12295.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].end |
12297.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].text |
聽到你們回應的一些進度 |
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12297.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].end |
12299.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].text |
本席其實還蠻憂心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].start |
12299.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].end |
12301.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].text |
不僅是你們版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].start |
12301.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].end |
12303.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].text |
好像目前不是太完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].start |
12303.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].end |
12305.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
那原住民族學校的體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].start |
12305.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].end |
12307.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].text |
好像各個階層的體系 |
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12307.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].end |
12309.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].text |
似乎都還蠻缺乏的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
12309.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].end |
12311.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].text |
那本席今天只是就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
12311.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].end |
12313.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].text |
我們最關心的以族語 |
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12313.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].end |
12315.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].text |
保存文化這樣一個概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].start |
12315.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].end |
12317.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].text |
來談原住民族學校的這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
12317.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].end |
12319.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].text |
跟你們就教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
12319.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].end |
12321.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].text |
有關於認證層級的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
12321.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].end |
12323.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
但是還有很多很多的這個問題 |
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12323.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].end |
12325.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
其實它是高於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
12325.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].end |
12327.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
或者是更要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
12327.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
12329.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].text |
及早在我們目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
12329.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].end |
12331.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
已經碰到的這個教育體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
12331.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
12333.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].text |
教育的這個經驗裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
12333.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].end |
12335.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
要更往前的來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
12335.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
12337.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
要不然如果哪一天請你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
12337.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
12339.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
12339.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
12341.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].text |
原住民族自然科學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
12341.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].end |
12343.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].text |
或自然知識的 |
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12343.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].end |
12345.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
相關教材的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
12345.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].end |
12347.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
高教文本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
12347.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].end |
12349.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
你們提供的出來嗎?如果是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
12349.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].end |
12351.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
當然我們不知道未來的這個主管單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
12351.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].end |
12353.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].text |
大家還要討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].start |
12353.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].end |
12355.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].text |
但是最重要就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].start |
12355.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].end |
12357.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].text |
那麼在師資培育還有現場人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
12357.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].end |
12359.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
的這樣一個務實的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
12359.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].end |
12361.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].text |
究竟教育部原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
12361.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].end |
12363.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
有沒有就各個層級去討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
12363.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
12365.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].text |
那目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
12365.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].end |
12367.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
已經有的族語的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
12367.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].end |
12369.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
師資跟未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
12369.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].end |
12371.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
在各個層級裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
12371.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].end |
12373.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].text |
教師能力的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
12373.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].end |
12375.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].text |
你們到底應該要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].start |
12375.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
12377.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
這是很大的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].start |
12377.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
12379.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
目前看起來進度是稍微慢了一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
12380.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
12382.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
那這個部分要請那個做個回應嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
12382.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
12384.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
還是要給 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
12384.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
12386.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
本席請問的這個補充問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
12386.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
12388.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
因為高榮委員關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
12388.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].end |
12390.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].text |
針對就是未來原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
12390.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
12392.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
學校裡面的教材跟師資的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
12392.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
12394.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].text |
配套這一塊部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
12394.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].end |
12396.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].text |
會嫁接在跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
12396.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].end |
12398.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].text |
原民會的討論裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
12398.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
12400.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].text |
因為包括今天一個主題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
12400.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
12402.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
族語在各級 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
12402.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
12404.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
學校的一個認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
12404.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
12406.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
的層次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
12406.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
12408.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
我們要怎麼樣來指令 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
12408.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
12410.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
那你不可以再給我溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
12410.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
12412.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
12412.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
12414.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
可能更清楚完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
12414.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
12416.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
謝謝林茜琪委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
12416.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
12418.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
請官員回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
12418.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
12420.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
接下來我們有請羅志強委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
12426.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
12428.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
12427.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
12429.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
12432.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
12434.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
請教次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
12434.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
12436.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
你知道什麼是大爆社事件嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
12436.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
12438.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
能不能跟大家說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
12438.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
12440.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
這個事件的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
12439.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
12441.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
什麼大爆社 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
12441.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
12443.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].text |
好 我告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
12444.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
12446.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].text |
1900年日據時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
12446.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].end |
12448.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].text |
台灣總督府開放 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
12448.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
12450.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].text |
蟑螂業者進入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
12450.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
12452.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].text |
山地開採資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
12452.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].end |
12454.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
那擁有豐富蟑螂資源的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
12454.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
12456.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
泰雅族大蝌蟑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
12456.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
12458.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].text |
也就是今天大溪這一帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
12458.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].end |
12460.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].text |
的地區首當其衝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].start |
12460.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].end |
12462.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
並因為蟑螂工人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
12462.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
12464.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
性侵部落婦女引爆衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
12464.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].end |
12466.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].text |
總督府派軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
12466.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
12468.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
鎮壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
12468.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
12470.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
大爆社頭目瓦旦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
12470.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
12472.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
現處率族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
12472.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
12474.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].text |
與日軍血戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
12474.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
12476.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].text |
聯合各部落抗日長達七年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
12476.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
12478.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].text |
最終不敵日軍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
12478.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].end |
12480.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].text |
優勢武力也被迫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
12480.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].end |
12482.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].text |
遷離家園 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].start |
12482.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].end |
12484.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].text |
不但失去族人以鮮血捍衛的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
12484.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].end |
12486.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].text |
主居地並從原本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
12486.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].end |
12488.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].text |
一千多位居民生效數十戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
12488.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
12490.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].text |
那1920年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
12490.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].end |
12492.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].text |
代日本殖民政府為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].start |
12492.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].end |
12494.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].text |
紀念死傷的日本軍警 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].start |
12494.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].end |
12496.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].text |
設立了一座 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].start |
12496.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].end |
12498.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].text |
大爆中魂碑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
12498.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].end |
12500.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].text |
那高金樹梅委員在質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].start |
12500.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].end |
12502.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].text |
前行政院長林全書家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
12502.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].end |
12504.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].text |
蘇貞昌的時候有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].start |
12504.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].end |
12506.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].text |
如果掠奪資源以武力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].start |
12506.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].end |
12508.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].text |
血洗大爆社的日本軍警 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].start |
12508.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].end |
12510.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].text |
是中魂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].start |
12510.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].end |
12512.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].text |
那浴血捍衛土地的原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].start |
12512.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].end |
12514.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].text |
是奸匪嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].start |
12514.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].end |
12516.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].text |
他請政府能夠設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
12516.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].end |
12518.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].text |
紀念碑來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].start |
12518.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].end |
12520.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].text |
來紀念 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
12520.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].end |
12522.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].text |
抗日原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
12522.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].end |
12524.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
也就是說大爆社紀念碑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].start |
12524.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].end |
12526.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].text |
你知道當時蘇貞昌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].start |
12526.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].end |
12528.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].text |
怎麼回應嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].start |
12532.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
12534.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].text |
蘇貞昌前院長回應是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
12534.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
12536.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
當年捍衛土地的主人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].start |
12536.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].end |
12538.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].text |
對抗外來入侵者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].start |
12538.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].end |
12540.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].text |
應於肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].start |
12540.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].end |
12542.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].text |
要大大的讚揚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
12542.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
12544.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
承諾在任內完成紀念碑的設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
12544.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
12546.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
請問你認不認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
12546.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
12548.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
蘇院長蘇前院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
12548.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
12550.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
的這一樣的一個回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
12550.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].end |
12552.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].text |
那請問紀念碑設置了沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
12555.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
12557.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].text |
那應該不是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].start |
12557.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
12559.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
我告訴你啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
12559.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
12563.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
原住民的土地被日本軍警武力掠奪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
12563.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
12569.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].text |
然後原住民族在日據時代所受的不公不義的對待歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
12569.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
12572.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
那這一個紀念碑到現在也沒下文了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
12572.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
12574.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].text |
當然你剛說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
12574.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
12576.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].text |
這不是你們夜館 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
12576.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
12578.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].text |
可是下一個就是你們夜館 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
12578.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
12580.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].text |
上週教育部提出了補課了沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
12580.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
12582.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
12582.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
12585.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
人權及轉型正義教育的專區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
12585.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
12587.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
提出了第八堂課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].start |
12587.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].end |
12590.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].text |
台灣的原住民族轉型正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
12590.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
12594.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].text |
要代理民眾認識戰後威權統治下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
12594.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
12596.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
白色恐怖的政治受難者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
12596.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
12600.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].text |
而且要讓歷史知識更貼近大眾生活 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].start |
12600.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].end |
12602.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
來降低理解門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
12602.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
12605.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
所以推出這個補課的沒專區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].start |
12605.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
12608.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].text |
要透過短影片以及延伸閱讀的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].start |
12608.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].end |
12610.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].text |
來協助台灣民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
12610.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].end |
12612.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].text |
認識台灣的人權發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
12612.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
12614.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
那鄭部長也說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
12614.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].end |
12617.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].text |
有些歷史不只存在課本裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].start |
12617.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].end |
12619.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
也存在土地的記憶中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
12619.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
12621.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
我們願意理解歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
12621.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
12623.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
也珍惜現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
12623.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].end |
12626.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].text |
更懂得守護民主與自由的價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].start |
12626.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].end |
12628.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].text |
那我就想要請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].start |
12628.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].end |
12632.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].text |
因為我們的政府承諾的大報社紀念碑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].start |
12632.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].end |
12634.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].text |
沒有下文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].start |
12634.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].end |
12636.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].text |
但是這個歷史的記憶不該被遺忘 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].start |
12636.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].end |
12637.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].start |
12637.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].end |
12639.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].text |
那能不能拜託我們的次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].start |
12639.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].end |
12641.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].text |
能告訴大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].start |
12641.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].end |
12643.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].text |
是不是可以用你的補課了沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].start |
12643.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].end |
12645.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].text |
這個專區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].start |
12645.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].end |
12647.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].text |
來做一支影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].start |
12647.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].end |
12649.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].text |
做你所謂的短影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].start |
12649.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].end |
12651.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].text |
來介紹大報社事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].start |
12651.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].end |
12654.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].text |
這些日據時代對原住民壓迫的歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
12654.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].end |
12656.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].text |
讓更多人來理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].start |
12656.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].end |
12658.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].text |
存在於這片土地的記憶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].start |
12658.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].end |
12660.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
你覺得可以這樣做嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].start |
12660.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
12661.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].text |
可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].start |
12661.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].end |
12662.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].text |
當然是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
12662.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].end |
12664.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
非常好謝謝您 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
12664.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
12666.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
那這件事我記下來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
12666.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].end |
12668.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].text |
那也希望我們後續辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
12668.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].end |
12670.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].text |
也會跟教育部來了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].start |
12670.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].end |
12672.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].text |
我們後續這個影片的製作進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].start |
12672.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].end |
12675.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].text |
那麼接下來我想請教一下下一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
12676.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].end |
12678.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].text |
上週 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
12678.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].end |
12680.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].text |
李遠部長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].start |
12680.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].end |
12682.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].text |
欲滅其國先滅其史 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
12682.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].end |
12685.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].text |
欲滅其族先滅其文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
12685.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].end |
12688.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].text |
這一句話本席也非常有感觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].start |
12688.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].end |
12690.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].text |
我覺得他說的一點都沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
12690.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].end |
12692.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
12692.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].end |
12694.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
我就要問一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
12694.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].end |
12697.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
113年前一群充滿理想抱負的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
12697.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
12700.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
揭竿起義推翻帝制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].start |
12700.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].end |
12702.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].text |
他們的夢想是建立一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].start |
12702.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].end |
12705.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].text |
民有民治民想的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].start |
12705.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].end |
12707.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].text |
民主共和國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].start |
12707.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].end |
12709.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].text |
他們的理想是打造一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].start |
12709.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].end |
12712.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].text |
自由平等博愛的國度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].start |
12712.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].end |
12715.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].text |
因為這正是創建中華民國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].start |
12715.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].end |
12717.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].text |
先驅拋頭顱灑熱血 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].start |
12717.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].end |
12719.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].text |
所秉持的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].start |
12719.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].end |
12721.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].text |
這段話誰講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].start |
12721.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].end |
12723.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].text |
知不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].start |
12724.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].end |
12726.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].text |
我告訴你啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].start |
12726.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].end |
12730.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].text |
賴清德總統在前年的國慶文告當中說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].start |
12730.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].end |
12732.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].text |
我百分之百認同這段話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].start |
12732.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].end |
12734.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].text |
來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].start |
12734.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].end |
12737.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].text |
我在教文質詢尋答所問過鄭部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].start |
12737.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].end |
12740.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].text |
也就是說這一段中華民國的建國史 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].start |
12740.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].end |
12743.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].text |
先列拋頭顱灑熱血的事蹟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].start |
12743.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].end |
12745.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].text |
在現在的課綱 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].start |
12745.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].end |
12747.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].text |
課本當中哪裡可以找到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].start |
12747.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].end |
12750.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].text |
在哪一冊的歷史教科書當中提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].start |
12751.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].end |
12753.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].text |
市長知道部長怎麼回答我嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].start |
12754.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].end |
12755.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].start |
12755.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].end |
12757.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].text |
非常好你答對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].start |
12757.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].end |
12759.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].text |
部長的回答跟你剛回答一模一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].start |
12759.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].end |
12760.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].text |
他不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].start |
12761.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].end |
12762.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].text |
他不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].start |
12763.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].end |
12764.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].text |
那我就要來問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].start |
12765.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].end |
12768.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].text |
因為我剛說過連賴總統都說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].start |
12768.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].end |
12771.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].text |
革命先列拋頭顱灑熱血 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].start |
12771.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].end |
12773.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].text |
揭竿起義推翻帝制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].start |
12773.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].end |
12775.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].text |
建立中華民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].start |
12775.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].end |
12777.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].text |
結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].start |
12777.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].end |
12779.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].text |
你們也答不出來在哪個課本當中有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].start |
12780.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].end |
12782.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].text |
那我想要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].start |
12782.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].end |
12784.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].text |
課本當中如果沒有的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].start |
12784.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].end |
12786.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].text |
那不就是李遠部長講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].start |
12786.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].end |
12788.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].text |
欲滅其國先滅其死嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].start |
12790.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].end |
12792.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].text |
這是今天為什麼我要特別強調一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].start |
12792.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].end |
12793.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].start |
12793.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].end |
12795.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].text |
中華民國的創建的歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].start |
12795.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].end |
12797.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].text |
我覺得我們教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].start |
12797.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].end |
12799.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].text |
還是要上心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].start |
12799.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].end |
12802.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].text |
因為許多年輕人現在說真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].start |
12802.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].end |
12804.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].text |
也不認識陸浩東 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].start |
12804.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].end |
12806.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].text |
甚至可能還有年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].start |
12806.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].end |
12807.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].text |
孫文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].start |
12807.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].end |
12808.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].text |
國父 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].start |
12808.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].end |
12809.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].text |
孫中山 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].start |
12809.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].end |
12810.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].text |
孫一仙 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].start |
12810.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].end |
12812.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].text |
可能也未必分得清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].start |
12812.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].end |
12814.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].text |
可能還以為是不同的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].start |
12814.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].end |
12816.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].text |
那這些都是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].start |
12816.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].end |
12818.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].text |
過去我們的一些歷史教育當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].start |
12818.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].end |
12820.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].text |
我覺得讓民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].start |
12820.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].end |
12822.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].text |
讓下一代 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].start |
12822.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].end |
12824.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].text |
對於我們的歷史的根本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].start |
12824.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].end |
12826.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].text |
開始有記憶上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].start |
12826.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].end |
12828.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].text |
沒有辦法在課本當中傳承 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].start |
12828.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].end |
12830.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].text |
那本席這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].start |
12830.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].end |
12832.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].text |
也要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].start |
12833.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].end |
12835.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].text |
歷史跟文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].start |
12835.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].end |
12837.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].text |
我覺得是不能再繼續掏空 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].start |
12837.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].end |
12839.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].text |
所以我正在推動一個紮根歷史教育的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].start |
12839.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].end |
12841.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].text |
我要透過說歷史故事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].start |
12841.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].end |
12843.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].text |
成語故事給爸爸媽媽聽的形式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].start |
12843.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].end |
12845.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].text |
來結合AI動畫跟影音科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].start |
12845.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].end |
12847.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].text |
一路從盤古開天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].start |
12847.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].end |
12849.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].text |
講到中華民國的造建 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].start |
12849.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].end |
12851.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].text |
以及國民政府的牽台 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].start |
12851.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].end |
12853.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].text |
建設台灣的歷程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].start |
12853.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].end |
12855.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].text |
那在後天這個禮拜五的上午 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].start |
12855.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].end |
12857.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].text |
我也在立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].start |
12857.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].end |
12859.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].text |
巡邪樓九樓大禮堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].start |
12859.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].end |
12861.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].text |
來舉辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].start |
12861.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].end |
12863.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].text |
說歷史陪爸爸媽的首映會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].start |
12863.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].end |
12865.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].text |
我這邊也就邀請次長跟部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].start |
12865.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].end |
12867.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].text |
歡迎有空 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].start |
12867.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].end |
12869.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].text |
一起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].start |
12869.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].end |
12871.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].text |
來去弘揚我們賴總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].start |
12871.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].end |
12873.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].text |
在國慶文告當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].start |
12873.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].end |
12875.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].text |
所說的中華民國歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].start |
12875.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].end |
12877.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].text |
那請我們的次長有空 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].start |
12877.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].end |
12879.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].text |
也撥動過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].start |
12879.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].end |
12881.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].text |
參加好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].start |
12881.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].end |
12883.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].text |
謝謝以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].start |
12883.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].end |
12885.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].text |
好,謝謝羅志強委員的諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].start |
12885.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].end |
12887.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].text |
請官員回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].start |
12887.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].end |
12889.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].text |
接下來我們有請羅廷瑋趙偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].start |
12889.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].end |
12891.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].text |
來進行詢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].start |
12896.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].end |
12898.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].text |
好,謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].start |
12898.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].end |
12900.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].text |
有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].start |
12900.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].end |
12902.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].text |
長料萬千 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].start |
12901.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].end |
12903.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].text |
正式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].start |
12903.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].end |
12907.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].text |
還有原民會常務副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].start |
12907.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].end |
12909.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].text |
好,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].start |
12909.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].end |
12911.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].text |
有請次長副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].start |
12911.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].end |
12913.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].start |
12912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].end |
12914.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].text |
我也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].start |
12913.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].end |
12915.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].text |
你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].start |
12914.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].end |
12916.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].text |
我們依據原住民教育法第15條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].start |
12916.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].end |
12918.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].text |
各級政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].start |
12918.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].end |
12920.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].text |
得是需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].start |
12921.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].end |
12923.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].text |
設立各級原住民學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].start |
12923.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].end |
12925.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].text |
或原住民的教育班 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].start |
12925.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].end |
12927.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].text |
以利原住民學生就學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].start |
12927.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].end |
12929.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].text |
維護其文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].start |
12929.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].end |
12933.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].text |
就前項原住民學校的設立事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].start |
12933.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].end |
12935.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].text |
另以法律定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].start |
12935.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].end |
12937.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].start |
12937.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].end |
12939.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].text |
原住民學校的一個設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].start |
12939.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].end |
12941.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].text |
本來就應該透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].start |
12941.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].end |
12943.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].text |
專法來規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].start |
12943.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].end |
12947.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].text |
今天教文排審原住民族學校法的這個草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].start |
12947.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].end |
12949.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].text |
共有六個原民委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].start |
12949.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].end |
12951.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].text |
提案版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].start |
12951.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].end |
12953.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].text |
出了回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].start |
12952.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].end |
12958.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].text |
原住民族教育法第15條規定的立法要求提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].start |
12958.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].end |
12960.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].text |
更是同時反應了一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].start |
12962.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].end |
12964.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].start |
12963.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].end |
12965.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].text |
立法委員原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].start |
12966.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].end |
12968.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].text |
民主的社會教育現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].start |
12969.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].end |
12971.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].text |
等不及了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].start |
12971.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].end |
12973.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].text |
只能先行提醒法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].start |
12975.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].end |
12977.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].text |
推動立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].start |
12977.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].end |
12979.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].text |
但本來就應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].start |
12979.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].end |
12981.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].text |
最早提出整體規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].start |
12981.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].end |
12983.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].text |
承擔行政責任的行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].start |
12984.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].end |
12986.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].text |
反而長期的一個缺席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].start |
12986.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].end |
12988.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].text |
請問教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].start |
12987.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].end |
12989.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].text |
原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].start |
12989.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].end |
12991.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].text |
你們在做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].start |
12991.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].end |
12993.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].text |
可以回答一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].start |
12996.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].end |
12998.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].text |
各位委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].start |
12998.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].end |
13000.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].text |
事實上在原住民教育上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].start |
13000.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].end |
13002.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].text |
我們跟那個教育部是協力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].start |
13002.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].end |
13004.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].text |
那針對文化的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].start |
13004.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].end |
13006.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].text |
那我們事實上在整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].start |
13006.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].end |
13008.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].text |
所以你覺得你有在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].start |
13008.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].end |
13010.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].text |
這個教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].start |
13010.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].end |
13012.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].text |
這個學校法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].start |
13012.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].end |
13014.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].text |
我們事實上也有做了很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].start |
13014.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].end |
13016.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].text |
研析相關委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].start |
13016.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].end |
13018.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].text |
版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].start |
13018.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].end |
13020.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].text |
另外我們準備工作也在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].start |
13020.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].end |
13022.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].text |
所以我們最近我們在我們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].start |
13022.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].end |
13024.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].text |
沒有提到說我們有一個2.0的原住民學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].start |
13024.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].end |
13026.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].text |
學校的設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].start |
13026.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].end |
13028.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].text |
那這個就是實驗學校的2.0版 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].start |
13028.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].end |
13030.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].text |
就是我們讓它提升到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].start |
13030.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].end |
13032.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].text |
它事實上是未來原住民學校的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].start |
13032.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].end |
13034.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].text |
示範的一個model |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].start |
13034.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].end |
13036.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].text |
所以你有在做2.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].start |
13036.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].end |
13038.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].text |
但是你沒有立法律定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].start |
13038.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].end |
13040.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].text |
你沒有合法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].start |
13040.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].end |
13042.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].text |
我有做但不需要合法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].start |
13042.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].end |
13044.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].text |
是這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].start |
13044.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].end |
13046.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].text |
做了以後如果在法律上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].start |
13046.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].end |
13048.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].text |
需要怎麼樣的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].start |
13048.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].end |
13050.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].text |
我們再來整理這個法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].start |
13050.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].end |
13052.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].text |
吳立華早晚也在對著我笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].start |
13054.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].end |
13056.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].text |
他覺得我點破了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].start |
13056.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].end |
13058.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].text |
不是因為委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].start |
13058.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].end |
13060.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].text |
我跟你講今天不同政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].start |
13060.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].end |
13062.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].text |
但是他是為了原住民發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].start |
13062.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].end |
13064.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].text |
我就認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].start |
13064.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].end |
13066.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].text |
設立這個法是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].start |
13066.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].end |
13068.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].text |
我們是不會反對的我只是說在準備工作上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].start |
13068.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].end |
13070.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].text |
我們覺得說是不是有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].start |
13070.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].end |
13072.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].text |
你沒有反對你有沒有版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].start |
13073.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].end |
13075.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].text |
告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].start |
13076.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].end |
13078.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].text |
因為我們現在是分階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].start |
13078.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].end |
13080.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].text |
所以我們後面的法的部分我們事實上還沒有提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].start |
13080.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].end |
13082.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].text |
那就拖了這麼久 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].start |
13082.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].end |
13084.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].text |
這就是重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].start |
13084.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].end |
13086.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].text |
那教育部今天在書面報告也寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].start |
13086.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].end |
13088.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].text |
原住民族的學校是以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].start |
13088.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].end |
13090.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].text |
原住民族的知識體系為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].start |
13090.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].end |
13092.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].text |
一民族教育哲學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].start |
13092.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].end |
13094.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].text |
與目標實施的教育學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].start |
13094.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].end |
13096.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].text |
因此原住民族的學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].start |
13096.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].end |
13098.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].text |
的中央主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].start |
13098.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].end |
13100.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].text |
以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].start |
13101.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].end |
13103.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].text |
統一由原民會擔任主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].start |
13103.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].end |
13105.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].text |
請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].start |
13107.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].end |
13109.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].text |
正式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].start |
13109.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].end |
13111.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].text |
所以你的這個說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].start |
13111.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].end |
13113.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].text |
意思就是說原民會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].start |
13113.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].end |
13115.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].text |
我們一般教育當然是教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].start |
13115.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].end |
13117.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].text |
我們希望說原民教育體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].start |
13117.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].end |
13119.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].text |
當然是希望有原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].start |
13119.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].end |
13121.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].text |
行政院也早在2016年就已經明確分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].start |
13121.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].end |
13123.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].text |
教育部負責全面修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].start |
13123.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].end |
13125.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].text |
原住民族的教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].start |
13125.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].end |
13127.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].text |
已經修完 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].start |
13127.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].end |
13129.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].text |
但是原民會研議制定原住民族的學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].start |
13129.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].end |
13131.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].text |
所以我先問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].start |
13132.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].end |
13134.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].text |
教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].start |
13134.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].end |
13136.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].text |
能不能認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].start |
13136.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].end |
13138.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].text |
定專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].start |
13136.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].end |
13138.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].text |
我們相當支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].start |
13140.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].end |
13142.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].text |
但是要定的話請原民會定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].start |
13142.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].end |
13144.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].text |
主政機關在105年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].start |
13144.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].end |
13146.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].text |
就分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].start |
13146.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].end |
13148.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].text |
然後在原教法設立之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].start |
13148.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].end |
13150.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].text |
第15條我們本來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].start |
13150.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].end |
13152.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].text |
認同說那個是雙軌的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].start |
13152.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].end |
13154.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].text |
教育體系一般教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].start |
13154.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].end |
13156.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].text |
來處理那如果像 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].start |
13156.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].end |
13158.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].text |
國歌會他也會設試驗道中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].start |
13158.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].end |
13160.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].text |
所以你就是輔助他主導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].start |
13160.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].end |
13162.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].text |
好來謝謝那請問一下原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].start |
13163.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].end |
13165.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].text |
你有沒有認定自己是主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].start |
13167.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].end |
13169.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].text |
沒關係你正常回答就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].start |
13169.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].end |
13171.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].text |
你不要覺得我講讓你很為難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].start |
13171.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].end |
13173.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].text |
你就正常你覺得是就是不是就不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].start |
13173.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].end |
13175.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].text |
當然如果做原住民事務來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].start |
13175.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].end |
13177.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].text |
我們能夠讓原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].start |
13177.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].end |
13179.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].text |
來主導這個所有的法案當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].start |
13179.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].end |
13181.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].text |
責無旁貸啦但是我們必須考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].start |
13181.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].end |
13183.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].text |
現實的問題啦就是原民會現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].start |
13183.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].end |
13185.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].text |
量能有沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].start |
13185.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].end |
13187.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].text |
未來的執行上有沒有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].start |
13187.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].end |
13189.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].text |
所以你覺得現在不需要定專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].start |
13189.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].end |
13191.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].text |
對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].start |
13190.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].end |
13192.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].text |
目前我們是分階段來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].start |
13192.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].end |
13194.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].text |
沒關係嘛現在是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].start |
13194.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].end |
13196.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].text |
不需要定專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].start |
13196.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].end |
13198.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].text |
先做好準備所有的問題都把它克服 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].start |
13198.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].end |
13200.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].text |
或是知道問題未來怎麼解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].start |
13200.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].end |
13202.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].text |
我們再來立這個法會比較好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].start |
13202.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].end |
13204.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].text |
沒有那我幫你定義嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].start |
13204.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].end |
13206.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].text |
就是說你認為可以先做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].start |
13206.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].end |
13208.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].text |
也就是你剛剛說的2.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].start |
13208.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].end |
13210.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].text |
但是不需要立專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].start |
13212.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].end |
13214.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].text |
不好意思請直接回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].start |
13214.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].end |
13216.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].text |
是或錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].start |
13216.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].end |
13218.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].text |
目前是不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].start |
13217.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].end |
13219.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].start |
13218.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].end |
13220.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].text |
最近審查電競專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].start |
13221.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].end |
13223.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].text |
運動部很明確的告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].start |
13223.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].end |
13225.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].text |
支持電競發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].start |
13225.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].end |
13227.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].text |
但不支持現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].start |
13227.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].end |
13229.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].text |
立專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].start |
13229.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].end |
13231.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].text |
因為現行有國民體育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].start |
13231.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].end |
13233.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].text |
運動產業發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].start |
13233.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].end |
13235.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].text |
已經有法源制度不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].start |
13235.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].end |
13237.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].text |
可以補強也可以透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].start |
13237.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].end |
13239.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].text |
預算的增加或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].start |
13239.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].end |
13241.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].text |
我們的運動白皮書來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].start |
13241.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].end |
13243.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].text |
協助反觀原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].start |
13243.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].end |
13245.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].text |
族學校法原民會今天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].start |
13245.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].end |
13247.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].text |
態度剛剛有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].start |
13247.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].end |
13249.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].text |
現階段我們可以先做但不用立 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].start |
13249.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].end |
13251.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].text |
專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].start |
13250.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].end |
13252.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].text |
那這樣子的話我反而要念 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].start |
13252.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].end |
13254.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].text |
吳立華招圍喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].start |
13254.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].end |
13256.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].text |
那你這樣是搶牌啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].start |
13256.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].end |
13258.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].text |
人家沒有要訂這個法你怎麼搶牌這個持法呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].start |
13260.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].end |
13262.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].text |
不對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].start |
13262.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].end |
13264.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].text |
立法委員就是可以討論嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].start |
13265.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].end |
13267.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].text |
對不對可是當時我排 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].start |
13267.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].end |
13269.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].text |
電競法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].start |
13269.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].end |
13271.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].text |
側翼攻擊我說我搶牌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].start |
13271.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].end |
13273.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].text |
持法說運動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].start |
13273.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].end |
13275.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].text |
部不支持專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].start |
13275.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].end |
13277.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].text |
所以我還要排這就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].start |
13278.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].end |
13280.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].text |
故意這就是搶牌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].start |
13281.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].end |
13283.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].text |
那今天我要問社會大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].start |
13283.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].end |
13285.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].text |
吳立華是搶牌嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].start |
13286.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].end |
13288.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].text |
吳立華是硬著幹嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].start |
13289.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].end |
13291.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].text |
我不願意這樣解讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].start |
13292.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].end |
13294.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].text |
因為吳立華我看到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].start |
13294.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].end |
13296.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].text |
他為了原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].start |
13296.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].end |
13298.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].text |
他必須要跟原住民講我在爭取我努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].start |
13298.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].end |
13300.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].text |
所以排了詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].start |
13300.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].end |
13302.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].text |
希望討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].start |
13302.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].end |
13304.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].text |
有了討論有了民主 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].start |
13304.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].end |
13306.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].text |
有了共識就會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].start |
13306.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].end |
13308.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].text |
新的可能跟方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].start |
13308.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].end |
13310.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].text |
出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].start |
13311.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].end |
13313.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].text |
所以我今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].start |
13313.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].end |
13315.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].text |
我希望透過這樣子的一個詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].start |
13315.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].end |
13317.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].text |
讓社會大眾知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].start |
13318.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].end |
13320.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].text |
本來部會就會有自己的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].start |
13320.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].end |
13322.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].text |
他可能沒有辦法接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].start |
13323.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].end |
13325.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].text |
但是立法委員會盡可能的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].start |
13325.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].end |
13327.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].text |
凝聚共識討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].start |
13327.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].end |
13329.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].text |
甚至是幫民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].start |
13329.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].end |
13331.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].text |
發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].start |
13332.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].end |
13334.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].text |
所以今天我們也看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].start |
13334.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].end |
13336.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].text |
原民會自己是主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].start |
13336.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].end |
13338.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].text |
但是他覺得現階段 |
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13338.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].end |
13340.06 |
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可以透過政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].start |
13340.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].end |
13342.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].text |
來執行不用力專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].start |
13342.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].end |
13344.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].text |
這不就是跟體育部的態度一樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].start |
13346.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].end |
13348.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].text |
吳立華可以排案原住民相關的草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].start |
13348.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].end |
13350.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].text |
我不能排電競草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].start |
13350.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].end |
13352.23 |
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我也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].start |
13352.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].end |
13354.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].text |
這些側翼這些不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].start |
13355.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].end |
13357.07 |
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硬要批評的是可兒子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].start |
13358.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].end |
13360.79 |
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如果今天原民會認為不需要專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].start |
13362.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].end |
13364.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].text |
副主委坦白說沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].start |
13364.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].end |
13366.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].text |
但是現行的制度我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].start |
13366.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].end |
13368.45 |
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的確有一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].start |
13369.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].end |
13371.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].text |
我們的確看到不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].start |
13371.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].end |
13373.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].text |
希望能夠提出更有願景 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].start |
13373.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].end |
13375.13 |
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並且能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].start |
13375.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].end |
13377.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].text |
有實際的期程告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].start |
13377.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].end |
13379.13 |
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你的期程能不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].start |
13379.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].end |
13381.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].text |
達到現階段原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].start |
13381.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].end |
13383.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].text |
能夠同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].start |
13383.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].end |
13385.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].text |
所以為什麼會有六個委員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].start |
13385.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].end |
13387.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].text |
他們認為有必要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].start |
13387.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].end |
13389.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].text |
我剛剛開宗明義就講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].start |
13389.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].end |
13391.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].text |
要以專法定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].start |
13391.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].end |
13393.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].text |
但是你們沒有你們透過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].start |
13393.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].end |
13395.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].text |
直接行政的命令也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].start |
13395.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].end |
13397.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].text |
政策也好來告訴大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].start |
13397.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].end |
13399.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].text |
法律就明定要有專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].start |
13402.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].end |
13404.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].text |
所以這些年來原住民族現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].start |
13404.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].end |
13406.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].text |
面臨的問題沒有消失 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].start |
13406.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].end |
13410.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].text |
族群傳承整個族語的傳承有斷層 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].start |
13410.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].end |
13412.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].text |
沉浸式的族語教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].start |
13412.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].end |
13414.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].text |
需要有制度的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].start |
13414.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].end |
13416.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].text |
師資的培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].start |
13416.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].end |
13418.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].text |
聘認課程教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].start |
13418.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].end |
13420.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].text |
等等的制度沒有改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].start |
13420.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].end |
13422.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].text |
行政部門做了2.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].start |
13423.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].end |
13425.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].text |
看起來有作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].start |
13425.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].end |
13427.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].text |
但問題還在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].start |
13427.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].end |
13429.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].text |
政策的方向沒有整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].start |
13429.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].end |
13431.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].text |
法制的研議有困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].start |
13432.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].end |
13434.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].text |
我要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].start |
13434.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].end |
13436.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].text |
有沒有可能提出一個期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].start |
13436.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].end |
13438.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].text |
你們什麼時候會提出專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].start |
13439.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].end |
13441.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].text |
部主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].start |
13442.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].end |
13444.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].text |
原住民族教育法訴講是各級政府是需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].start |
13445.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].end |
13447.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].start |
13447.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].end |
13449.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].start |
13449.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].end |
13451.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].start |
13451.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].end |
13453.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].start |
13453.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].end |
13455.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].start |
13455.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].end |
13457.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].start |
13457.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].end |
13459.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].start |
13459.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].end |
13461.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].start |
13461.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].end |
13463.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].start |
13463.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].end |
13465.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].start |
13465.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].end |
13467.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].start |
13467.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].end |
13469.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].start |
13469.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].end |
13471.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].start |
13471.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].end |
13473.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].start |
13454.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].end |
13456.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].start |
13456.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].end |
13458.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].start |
13458.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].end |
13460.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].start |
13460.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].end |
13462.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].start |
13462.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].end |
13464.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].text |
法律的改善 |
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13464.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].end |
13466.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].start |
13466.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].end |
13468.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].start |
13468.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].end |
13470.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].start |
13470.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].end |
13472.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].start |
13472.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].end |
13474.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].start |
13474.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].end |
13476.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].start |
13476.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].end |
13478.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].start |
13478.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].end |
13480.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].start |
13480.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].end |
13482.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].start |
13482.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].end |
13484.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].start |
13484.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].end |
13486.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].start |
13486.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].end |
13488.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].start |
13488.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].end |
13490.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].start |
13490.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].end |
13492.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].start |
13492.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].end |
13494.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].start |
13494.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].end |
13496.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].start |
13496.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].end |
13498.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].start |
13498.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].end |
13500.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].start |
13500.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].end |
13502.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].start |
13502.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].end |
13504.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].start |
13504.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].end |
13506.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].start |
13506.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].end |
13508.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].start |
13508.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].end |
13510.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].start |
13510.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].end |
13512.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].start |
13512.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].end |
13514.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].start |
13514.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].end |
13516.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].start |
13516.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].end |
13518.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].start |
13518.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].end |
13520.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].start |
13520.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].end |
13522.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].start |
13522.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].end |
13524.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].start |
13524.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].end |
13526.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].start |
13526.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].end |
13528.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].start |
13528.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].end |
13530.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].start |
13530.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].end |
13532.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].start |
13532.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].end |
13534.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].start |
13534.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].end |
13536.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].start |
13536.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].end |
13538.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].start |
13538.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].end |
13540.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].start |
13540.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].end |
13542.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].start |
13542.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].end |
13544.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].start |
13544.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].end |
13546.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].start |
13546.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].end |
13548.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].text |
法律的改善 |
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13548.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].end |
13550.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].start |
13550.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].end |
13552.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].start |
13552.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].end |
13554.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].start |
13554.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].end |
13556.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].start |
13556.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].end |
13558.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].start |
13558.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].end |
13560.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].start |
13560.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].end |
13562.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].start |
13562.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].end |
13564.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].text |
法律的改善 |
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13564.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].end |
13566.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].start |
13559.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].end |
13561.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].start |
13561.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].end |
13563.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].start |
13563.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].end |
13565.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].start |
13565.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].end |
13567.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].start |
13567.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].end |
13569.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].start |
13569.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].end |
13571.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].start |
13571.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].end |
13573.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].start |
13573.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].end |
13575.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].start |
13575.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].end |
13577.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].start |
13577.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].end |
13579.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].start |
13579.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].end |
13581.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].start |
13581.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].end |
13583.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].start |
13583.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].end |
13585.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].start |
13585.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].end |
13587.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].text |
法律的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].start |
13571.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].end |
13573.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].text |
所以那我要另外問嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].start |
13574.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].end |
13574.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].start |
13576.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].end |
13578.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].text |
我們今天下午要進行片源地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].start |
13578.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].end |
13580.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].text |
學校教育發展條例的主要審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].start |
13581.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].end |
13585.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].text |
比較遺憾的是這部條例自民國106年三讀通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].start |
13585.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].end |
13587.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].text |
實行至今有九年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].start |
13587.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].end |
13589.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].text |
大家都知道有些問題要改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].start |
13589.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].end |
13591.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].text |
但行政院卻沒有提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].start |
13591.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].end |
13593.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].text |
院版修法的草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].start |
13593.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].end |
13595.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].text |
這讓我感覺到就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].start |
13595.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].end |
13597.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].text |
這九年來教育部都沒有系統性的盤整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].start |
13597.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].end |
13599.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].text |
整個偏鄉學校面臨的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].start |
13599.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].end |
13601.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].text |
所以我要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].start |
13602.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].end |
13604.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].text |
院版今天有出來了嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].start |
13604.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].end |
13606.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].start |
13605.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].end |
13607.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].text |
但我們有建議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].start |
13607.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].end |
13609.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].text |
教育部會針對委員的版本提出建議版 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].start |
13609.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].end |
13611.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].text |
對嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].start |
13611.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].end |
13613.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].text |
那也是一樣嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].start |
13613.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].end |
13615.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].text |
院版沒有電競法的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].start |
13615.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].end |
13617.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].text |
但當天有所謂的建議版 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].start |
13617.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].end |
13619.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].text |
我們是認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].start |
13619.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].end |
13621.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].text |
在沒有修法的狀況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].start |
13621.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].end |
13623.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].text |
其實偏鄉條例目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].start |
13623.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].end |
13625.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].text |
中第九年但是目前遇到的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].start |
13625.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].end |
13627.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].text |
我們都可以用法規來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].start |
13627.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].end |
13629.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].text |
但是委員我們也是尊重委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].start |
13629.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].end |
13631.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].text |
立法權跟修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].start |
13631.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].end |
13633.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].text |
那為什麼我們還在講偏鄉有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].start |
13633.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].end |
13635.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].text |
我們遇到了這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].start |
13635.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].end |
13637.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].text |
片源地區教育學校的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].start |
13637.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].end |
13639.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].text |
的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].start |
13639.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].end |
13641.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].text |
我們遇到了困境還是有很多老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].start |
13641.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].end |
13643.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].text |
那為什麼這些委員要提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].start |
13643.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].end |
13645.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].text |
如果修法能夠解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].start |
13645.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].end |
13647.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].text |
當然修法解決我們尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].start |
13647.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].end |
13649.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].text |
那如果有些修法還沒有修 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].start |
13649.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].end |
13651.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].text |
我們透過行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].start |
13651.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].end |
13653.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].text |
透過法規我們一樣可以來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].start |
13653.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].end |
13655.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].text |
市長在這邊再叫您一聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].start |
13655.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].end |
13657.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].text |
學長你也擔任過委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].start |
13657.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].end |
13659.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].text |
你也一定有遇過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].start |
13659.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].end |
13661.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].text |
你提出的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].start |
13662.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].end |
13664.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].text |
不會不一定有提出對應的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].start |
13664.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].end |
13666.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].text |
但是你所看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].start |
13666.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].end |
13668.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].text |
或許來自於基層 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].start |
13668.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].end |
13670.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].text |
不會不一定看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].start |
13670.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].end |
13672.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].text |
但不代表不會有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].start |
13672.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].end |
13674.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].text |
不會有在努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].start |
13674.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].end |
13676.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].text |
我今天沒有要你承認不會有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].start |
13676.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].end |
13678.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].text |
但是我們必須要坦白講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].start |
13678.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].end |
13680.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].text |
就是需要凝聚共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].start |
13680.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].end |
13682.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].text |
把大家看不到的部分各自來做討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].start |
13683.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].end |
13685.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].text |
那現在我們看到106年立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].start |
13685.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].end |
13687.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].text |
三讀通過的片源地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].start |
13687.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].end |
13689.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].text |
教育的發展條例當時立法的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].start |
13689.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].end |
13691.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].text |
就非常清楚就是要強化整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].start |
13691.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].end |
13693.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].text |
學校教育的措施寬練經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].start |
13693.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].end |
13695.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].text |
提供人事課程的整個彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].start |
13695.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].end |
13697.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].text |
改善教師福利跟住宿的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].start |
13697.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].end |
13699.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].text |
縮小城鄉教育的落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].start |
13699.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].end |
13701.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].text |
改善整個城鄉教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].start |
13701.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].end |
13703.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].text |
長期存在的失之不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].start |
13703.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].end |
13705.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].text |
這些問題都還存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].start |
13705.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].end |
13707.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].text |
那您認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].start |
13707.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].end |
13709.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].text |
用整個教育行政命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].start |
13709.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].end |
13711.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].text |
用整個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].start |
13711.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].end |
13713.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].text |
可以把教師的流動率偏高 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].start |
13713.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].end |
13715.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].text |
把它留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].start |
13715.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].end |
13717.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].text |
可是我們沒看到有留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].start |
13717.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].end |
13719.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].text |
所以九年來我們確實看到部分偏鄉學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].start |
13719.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].end |
13721.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].text |
校舍 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].start |
13721.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].end |
13723.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].text |
設備數位學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].start |
13723.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].end |
13725.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].text |
交通住宿還有硬體學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].start |
13725.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].end |
13727.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].text |
所沒有改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].start |
13727.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].end |
13729.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].text |
絕對沒有改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].start |
13729.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].end |
13731.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].text |
有改善但改善沒有到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].start |
13731.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].end |
13733.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].text |
我們要的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].start |
13733.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].end |
13735.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].text |
流動率已經跟平地是差不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].start |
13735.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].end |
13737.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].text |
我必須承認你有在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].start |
13738.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].end |
13740.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].text |
但是做到沒有符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].start |
13740.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].end |
13742.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].text |
我們的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].start |
13742.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].end |
13744.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].text |
這樣可以吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].start |
13744.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].end |
13746.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].text |
當然那個本來就是任何 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].start |
13746.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].end |
13748.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].text |
政策跟執行就可以再進進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].start |
13748.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].end |
13750.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].text |
所以我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].start |
13750.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].end |
13752.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].text |
整個國民黨籍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].start |
13752.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].end |
13754.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].text |
我們地方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].start |
13754.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].end |
13756.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].text |
原住民的一些議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].start |
13756.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].end |
13758.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].text |
民代地方士生到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].start |
13758.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].end |
13760.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].text |
中央的立法委員在反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].start |
13760.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].end |
13762.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].text |
我們就是要來修 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].start |
13762.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].end |
13764.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].text |
希望能夠更具體的入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].start |
13764.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].end |
13766.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].text |
保障這些所有原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].start |
13766.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].end |
13768.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].text |
他們應該有的教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].start |
13768.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].end |
13770.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].text |
受教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].start |
13770.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].end |
13772.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].text |
還有他們的相關的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].start |
13772.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].end |
13774.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].text |
這點我們尊重委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].start |
13774.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].end |
13776.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].text |
我希望今天下午我們能夠更加 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].start |
13776.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].end |
13778.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].text |
聚焦在整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].start |
13778.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].end |
13780.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].text |
延攬培育留任支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].start |
13780.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].end |
13782.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].text |
四個面向把它能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].start |
13782.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].end |
13784.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].text |
透過下午的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].start |
13784.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].end |
13786.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].text |
凝聚共識把它給完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].start |
13786.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].end |
13788.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].text |
好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].start |
13787.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].end |
13789.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].start |
13802.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].end |
13804.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].text |
要另立專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].start |
13804.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].end |
13806.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].text |
讓需要設立的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].start |
13806.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].end |
13808.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].text |
縣市有一個法源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].start |
13808.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].end |
13810.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].text |
依據來設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].start |
13810.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].end |
13812.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].text |
至於現在所 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].start |
13812.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].end |
13814.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].text |
事辦的原住民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].start |
13814.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].end |
13816.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].text |
它的設立條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].start |
13816.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].end |
13818.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].text |
目前是且站且走 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].start |
13818.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].end |
13820.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].text |
但是我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].start |
13820.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].end |
13822.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].text |
跟未來我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].start |
13822.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].end |
13824.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].text |
所研擬出來我們最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].start |
13824.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].end |
13826.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].text |
大家有共識版本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].start |
13826.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].end |
13828.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].text |
這個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].start |
13828.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].end |
13830.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].text |
希望是透過這個事辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].start |
13830.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].end |
13832.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].text |
要去扣和 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].start |
13832.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].end |
13834.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].text |
要不然這個設立的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].start |
13834.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].end |
13836.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].text |
不夠明確清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].start |
13836.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].end |
13838.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].text |
未來會造成需要設立的縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].start |
13838.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].end |
13840.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].text |
的一個困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].start |
13840.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].end |
13842.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].text |
謝謝羅廷瑋召委特別關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].start |
13842.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].end |
13844.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].text |
我們原住民族學校的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].start |
13844.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].end |
13846.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].text |
接下來我們有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].start |
13846.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].end |
13848.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].text |
蘇青泉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].start |
13848.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].end |
13850.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].text |
蘇青泉委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].start |
13850.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].end |
13852.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].text |
楊瓊英委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].start |
13852.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].end |
13854.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].text |
李博義委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].start |
13854.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].end |
13856.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].text |
李博義委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].start |
13856.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].end |
13858.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].text |
今天最後一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].start |
13858.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].end |
13860.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].text |
有請蔡益妤委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].start |
13860.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].end |
13862.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].text |
來進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].start |
13868.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].end |
13870.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].text |
謝謝召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].start |
13870.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].end |
13872.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].text |
那我們這邊有請教育部市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].start |
13872.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].end |
13874.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].text |
有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].start |
13876.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].end |
13878.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].start |
13878.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].end |
13880.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].text |
好 次長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].start |
13880.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].end |
13882.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].text |
今天當然召委排審 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].start |
13882.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].end |
13884.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].text |
原住民學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].start |
13884.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].end |
13886.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].text |
透過這樣未來可以讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].start |
13886.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].end |
13888.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].text |
原住民的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].start |
13888.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].end |
13890.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].text |
在每一個縣市可以落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].start |
13890.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].end |
13892.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].text |
我們當然是樂觀其成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].start |
13892.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].end |
13894.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].text |
那事實上我想要跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].start |
13894.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].end |
13896.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].text |
借用這樣的詢答的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].start |
13896.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].end |
13898.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].text |
事實上想要跟次長聊一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].start |
13898.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].end |
13900.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].text |
因為我們的本土語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].start |
13900.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].end |
13902.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].text |
使用的人口下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].start |
13902.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].end |
13904.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].text |
這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].start |
13904.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].end |
13906.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].text |
那我不知道教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].start |
13906.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].end |
13908.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].text |
現在是否有去注意到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].start |
13908.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].end |
13910.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].text |
那在國家語言發展法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].start |
13910.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].end |
13912.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].text |
通過之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].start |
13912.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].end |
13914.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].text |
三讀過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].start |
13914.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].end |
13916.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].text |
那保障每一個固有族群的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].start |
13916.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].end |
13918.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].text |
語言的使用權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].start |
13918.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].end |
13920.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].text |
基本上是一個很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].start |
13920.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].end |
13922.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].text |
那當然國家語言發展法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].start |
13922.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].end |
13924.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].text |
主管機關是文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].start |
13924.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].end |
13926.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].text |
但是在落實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].start |
13926.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].end |
13928.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].text |
可能還是要從教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].start |
13928.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].end |
13930.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].text |
來招手 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].start |
13930.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].end |
13932.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].text |
所以事實上我跟教育部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].start |
13932.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].end |
13934.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].text |
也有溝通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].start |
13934.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].end |
13936.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].text |
那我先給大家看這個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].start |
13936.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].end |
13938.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].text |
數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].start |
13938.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].end |
13940.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].text |
現在大概我們先回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].start |
13940.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].end |
13942.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].text |
現在使用最多的本土語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].start |
13942.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].end |
13944.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].text |
就是台語 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].start |
13944.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].end |
13946.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].text |
那台語的話大概彰化、南投、雲林、嘉義、台南、屏東 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].start |
13946.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].end |
13948.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].text |
這六個縣市是台語使用比例最高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].start |
13948.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].end |
13950.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].text |
這六個縣市是台語使用比例最高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].start |
13950.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].end |
13952.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].text |
那嘉義、雲林、彰化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].start |
13952.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].end |
13954.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].text |
有超過60% |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].start |
13954.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].end |
13956.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].start |
13956.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].end |
13958.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].text |
這個數字是60% |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].start |
13958.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].end |
13960.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].text |
我們在機長看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].start |
13960.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].end |
13962.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].text |
我們下一代的小朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].start |
13962.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].end |
13964.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].text |
他使用台語的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].start |
13964.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].end |
13966.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].text |
實在哪來哪就去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].start |
13966.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].end |
13968.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].text |
小朋友會有台語 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].start |
13968.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].end |
13970.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].text |
尤其他人不跟阿公阿嬤大熱會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].start |
13970.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].end |
13972.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].text |
他實在要使用台語的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].start |
13972.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].end |
13974.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].text |
所以我想要具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].start |
13974.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].end |
13976.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].text |
來跟我們教育部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].start |
13976.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].end |
13978.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].text |
來提出一個訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].start |
13978.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].end |
13980.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].text |
未來我們在教育的這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].start |
13980.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].end |
13982.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].text |
如果學校方是同意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].start |
13982.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].end |
13984.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].text |
那能不能所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].start |
13984.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].end |
13986.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].text |
使用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].start |
13986.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].end |
13988.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].text |
叫做客視語言的轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].start |
13988.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].end |
13990.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].text |
客視語言的意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].start |
13990.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].end |
13992.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].text |
客視語言的意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].start |
13992.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].end |
13994.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].text |
除了我在教數學的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].start |
13994.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].end |
13996.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].text |
1加1等於2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].start |
13996.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].end |
13998.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].text |
這件事情他是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].start |
13998.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].end |
14000.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].text |
國語 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].start |
14000.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].end |
14002.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].text |
他是用所謂的華語 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].start |
14002.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].end |
14004.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].text |
的教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].start |
14004.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].end |
14006.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].text |
但是小朋友這塊你會不會笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].start |
14006.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].end |
14008.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].text |
還是你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].start |
14008.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].end |
14010.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].text |
把這個印出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].start |
14010.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].end |
14012.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].text |
打寫出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].start |
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是不是可以回到用台語 |
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就是說在上課的這個過程中 |
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14018.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].text |
鼓勵老師 |
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14018.11 |
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14020.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].text |
他們在於 |
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14020.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].end |
14022.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].text |
教學的過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].start |
14022.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].end |
14024.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].text |
在教化學試的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].start |
14024.11 |
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14026.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].text |
以前在背什麼皮美蓋斯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].start |
14026.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].end |
14028.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].text |
背那個什麼辛辣夾爐色法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].start |
14028.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].end |
14030.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].text |
在背的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].start |
14030.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].end |
14032.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].text |
有國語 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].start |
14032.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].end |
14034.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].text |
不過在學問的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].start |
14034.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].end |
14036.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].text |
今天小朋友來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].start |
14036.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].end |
14038.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].text |
我們的課本可以開第一了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].start |
14038.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].end |
14040.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].text |
這有辦法用台語來上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].start |
14040.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].end |
14042.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].text |
就尊重學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].start |
14042.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].end |
14044.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].text |
但是尊重學校要有誘因給他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].start |
14046.11 |
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14048.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].text |
誘因就是說如果學校願意用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].start |
14048.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].end |
14050.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].text |
客視語言來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].start |
14050.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].end |
14052.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].text |
教學的一個基礎的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].start |
14052.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].end |
14054.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].text |
那是不是我可以給學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].start |
14054.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].end |
14056.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].text |
另外的獎勵或者是給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].start |
14056.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].end |
14058.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].text |
老師直接給老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].start |
14058.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].end |
14060.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].text |
這樣的一個獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].start |
14060.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].end |
14062.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].text |
讓他是說他的台語 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].start |
14062.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].end |
14064.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].text |
跟他的上課的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].start |
14064.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].end |
14066.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].text |
是穿插的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].start |
14066.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].end |
14068.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].text |
因為小朋友的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].start |
14068.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].end |
14070.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].text |
因為年輕的時候他的學語言能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].start |
14070.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].end |
14072.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].text |
是最好的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].start |
14072.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].end |
14074.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].text |
那時候他小時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].start |
14074.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].end |
14076.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].text |
習慣有客視語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].start |
14076.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].end |
14078.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].text |
也不會只有台語喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].start |
14078.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].end |
14080.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].text |
如果是原住民在我們阿里山 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].start |
14080.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].end |
14082.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].text |
鄒族的語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].start |
14082.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].end |
14084.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].text |
小朋友就和他對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].start |
14084.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].end |
14086.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].text |
平常對話說你有沒有吃飽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].start |
14086.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].end |
14088.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].text |
來上課了你該乖要黏牙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].start |
14088.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].end |
14090.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].text |
不要說話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].start |
14090.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].end |
14092.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].text |
這個話有辦法在語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].start |
14092.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].end |
14094.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].text |
在課堂上都讓他充分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].start |
14094.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].end |
14096.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].text |
呈現出來之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].start |
14096.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].end |
14098.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].text |
未來這些小朋友他未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].start |
14098.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].end |
14100.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].text |
他要跟別人說話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].start |
14100.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].end |
14102.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].text |
他可以講一半國語像我現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].start |
14102.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].end |
14104.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].text |
我也國語吃一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].start |
14104.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].end |
14106.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].text |
我要切換台語我就切換自如 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].start |
14106.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].end |
14108.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].text |
為什麼我就切換自如 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].start |
14108.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].end |
14110.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].text |
因為我小時候我阿嬤 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].start |
14110.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].end |
14112.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].text |
我爸爸在對話的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].start |
14112.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].end |
14114.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].text |
我們就會說台語 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].start |
14114.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].end |
14116.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].text |
有時候跟別人說國語 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].start |
14116.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].end |
14118.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].text |
我就很自然的切換 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].start |
14118.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].end |
14120.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].text |
現在小朋友喪失這樣的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].start |
14120.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].end |
14122.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].text |
那我覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].start |
14122.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].end |
14124.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].text |
這夠有保一定我就來扮演 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].start |
14124.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].end |
14126.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].text |
我會鼓勵大家這麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].start |
14126.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].end |
14128.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].start |
14128.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].end |
14130.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].text |
你提的那四點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].start |
14130.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].end |
14132.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].text |
包括自願申請用客式語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].start |
14132.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].end |
14134.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].text |
就用台語 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].start |
14134.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].end |
14136.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].text |
現在有客語 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].start |
14136.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].end |
14138.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].text |
我們基本上都會同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].start |
14138.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].end |
14140.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].text |
那已經有老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].start |
14140.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].end |
14142.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].text |
目前也是用這樣在上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].start |
14142.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].end |
14144.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].text |
那至於你講的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].start |
14144.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].end |
14146.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].text |
我們的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].start |
14146.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].end |
14148.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].text |
我們會編列更多的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].start |
14148.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].end |
14150.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].text |
來提供參與教室行政講座跟續講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].start |
14150.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].end |
14152.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].text |
這部分我們已經也有在鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].start |
14152.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].end |
14154.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].text |
另外就是部長也很重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].start |
14154.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].end |
14156.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].text |
他也特別去交代從幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].start |
14156.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].end |
14158.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].text |
到高中能夠強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].start |
14158.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].end |
14160.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].text |
那種沉浸式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].start |
14160.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].end |
14162.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].text |
這種學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].start |
14162.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].end |
14164.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].text |
就是說我可能在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].start |
14164.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].end |
14166.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].text |
這節裡面我全部都用台語 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].start |
14166.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].end |
14168.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].text |
有那個環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].start |
14168.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].end |
14170.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].text |
我們就可以用台語來講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].start |
14170.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].end |
14172.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].text |
跟學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].start |
14172.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].end |
14174.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].text |
所以這部分我們有在深化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].start |
14174.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].end |
14176.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].text |
跟強化這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].start |
14176.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].end |
14178.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].text |
我覺得這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].start |
14178.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].end |
14180.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].text |
不要回到老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].start |
14180.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].end |
14182.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].text |
有的到有的回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].start |
14182.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].end |
14184.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].text |
重視這件事情的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].start |
14184.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].end |
14186.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].text |
那有一點就是在消耗 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].start |
14186.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].end |
14188.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].text |
消耗老師的熱情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].start |
14188.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].end |
14190.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].text |
我覺得事實上還是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].start |
14190.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].end |
14192.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].text |
用學校為單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].start |
14192.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].end |
14194.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].text |
這學校願意投入對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].start |
14194.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].end |
14196.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].text |
台語的重視這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].start |
14196.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].end |
14198.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].text |
教育部抓這間學校另外給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].start |
14198.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].end |
14200.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].text |
額外的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].start |
14200.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].end |
14202.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].text |
讓校長去鼓勵這些老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].start |
14202.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].end |
14204.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].text |
他們可能做他們的背課的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].start |
14204.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].end |
14206.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].text |
他們自我會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].start |
14206.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].end |
14208.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].text |
會去提醒說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].start |
14208.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].end |
14210.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].text |
下一堂課 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].start |
14210.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].end |
14212.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].text |
我要怎麼用更深刻的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].start |
14212.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].end |
14214.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].text |
給孩子在課堂中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].start |
14214.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].end |
14216.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].text |
學到更多台語的對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].start |
14216.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].end |
14218.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].text |
讓他整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].start |
14218.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].end |
14220.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].text |
這個沉浸式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].start |
14220.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].end |
14222.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].text |
的教學是很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].start |
14222.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].end |
14224.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].text |
我們以後會用這樣的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].start |
14224.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].end |
14226.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].text |
用鼓勵的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].start |
14226.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].end |
14228.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].text |
譬如說這個學校他的推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].start |
14228.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].end |
14230.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].text |
有達到一個標準我們就給他認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].start |
14230.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].end |
14232.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].text |
譬如說本土語言有關台語的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].start |
14232.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].end |
14234.11 |
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給他續講 |
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他推動到一定的程度 |
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有一個認證的標準 |
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就像有些學校 |
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事實上最實際的還是回到預算 |
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我覺得預算來抓一些預算 |
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如果學校願意這樣做 |
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我給他再怎樣 |
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一些獎金 |
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讓老師 |
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有這樣更有熱情 |
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而且我有熱情 |
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是做這件事我還可以得到 |
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更好的一些待遇 |
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我覺得很多熱情還是需要 |
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物質上的東西 |
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去撐住他的熱情 |
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嘉義可能就台語 |
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像我們中埔 |
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也有一些客家 |
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如果他們學校願意採用 |
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用客家化的 |
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客語的 |
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一個情境環境 |
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我們阿里山那裡 |
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有周族語言的情境環境 |
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他們願意學校老師 |
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來把這一塊做出來的話 |
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教育部要更加的獎勵他們 |
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可以啦這是本土語的認證 |
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我們個人跟學校 |
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我們團體的部分我們來努力 |
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那就麻煩市長 |
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謝謝蔡議員委員的質詢 |
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請觀眾回座 |
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我也在這邊補充說明 |
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因為剛才蔡議員委員 |
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跟王美慧委員 |
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兩人做了最佳的示範 |
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對 |
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我們也希望我們的原住民族學校 |
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能夠 |
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做這樣的事情 |
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只是因為我們的語言喪失的 |
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已經非常非常多了 |
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因為不容易 |
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所以我們在課程 |
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教材上可能比起 |
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漢族或客家 |
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閩南更困難 |
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所以我們需要原住民族學校法 |
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立法 |
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有這個制度 |
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有這個事項 |
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讓未來我們要做這樣的學校的時候 |
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有更彈性的法制 |
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讓我們能夠成功 |
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非常感謝蔡議員委員 |
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給我們這樣一個啟發 |
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現在 |
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登記質詢的委員 |
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均已發言完畢 |
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詢答結束 |
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對於委員質詢所要求提供的相關資料 |
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或未集答覆的部分 |
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請相關機關緊速 |
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以書面答覆 |
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另外有委員張志倫 |
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吳佩儀 黃捷 傅坤琦 |
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李柏毅 林怡錦 |
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柯志恩 許中信 |
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等委員提出 |
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書面質詢 |
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還有包括高競速媒委員 |
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請參考議題 |
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並請相關機關以書面答覆 |
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原住民族學校法相關草案 |
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另定期 |
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繼續審查 |
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本次會議的議事錄 |
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授權主席確認後 |
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及上傳立法院 |
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全球資訊網公開 |
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報告委員會議程 |
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處理完畢 |
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辛苦大家現在散會 |
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不好意思 |
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