| IVOD_ID |
17678 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17678 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-36-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第29次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
29 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第29次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-19T08:33:05+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-19T13:03:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
04:29:55 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 會議時間 |
2026-08-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第29次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查委員賴惠員等17人擬具「刑事訴訟法部分條文修正草案」案。
二、審查委員洪孟楷等26人擬具「刑事訴訟法部分條文修正草案」案。
三、審查委員王世堅等16人擬具「刑事訴訟法增訂部分條文草案」案。
四、審查委員翁曉玲等21人擬具「刑事訴訟法第四百五十五條之四十六條文修正草案」案。
五、審查委員吳宗憲等18人擬具「刑事訴訟法部分條文修正草案」案。
六、審查委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「刑事訴訟法部分條文修正草案」案。
七、審查委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「刑事訴訟法第三百十條條文修正草案」案。
【第六案如經院會復議，則不予審查】
【本次會議僅進行詢答】） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
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林委員淑芬 |
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翁委員曉玲 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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翁委員曉玲 |
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林委員淑芬 |
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林委員淑芬 |
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林委員淑芬 |
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范委員雲 |
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范委員雲 |
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林委員淑芬 |
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林委員淑芬 |
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林委員淑芬 |
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林委員淑芬 |
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SPEAKER_08 |
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林委員淑芬 |
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16103.92784375 |
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16105.80096875 |
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0.894 |
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1927.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].end |
1929.88 |
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報告委員會 出席委員7人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].start |
1929.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].end |
1932.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].text |
已足法定人數 請主席宣布開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].start |
1932.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
1933.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
好 我們現在開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
1933.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
1935.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].text |
首先先進行報告事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
1935.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
1937.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
請先宣讀上次的會議議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
1937.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
1940.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
1940.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
1943.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
委員會第28次全體委員會議議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
1943.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
1944.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
時間中環民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
1945.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
1947.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
115年8月5日 星期三 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
1947.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
1949.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
上午91分 至11時28分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
1949.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
1952.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
地點本院 紅樓302會議室 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
1952.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
1954.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
出席委員 陳昭姿委員等10人 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
1954.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
1956.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
列席委員 鍾嘉斌委員等5人 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
1957 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
1959.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
列席官員 司法院秘書長高金之等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
1959.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
1961.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
主席翁昭吉委員小林 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
1961.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
1963.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
報告事項 宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
1963.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
1965.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
決定討論事項 |
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1965.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
1968.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
1 病案審查委員吳小林等18人領聚 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
1968.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
1971.2 |
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法院組織法部分條文修正草案等4案 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
1971.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
1974.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
2 病案審查委員吳小林等18人領聚 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
1974.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
1976 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
行政法院組織法第21條 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
1976 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
1979.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
第22條及第24條條文修正草案等2案 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
1979.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
1981.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
3 病案審查委員吳小林等18人領聚 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
1982.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
1984.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
智慧財產及商業法院組織法第18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
1984.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
1987 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
及第21條條文修正草案等3案 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
1987.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
1989.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
4 病案審查委員吳小林等18人領聚 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
1989.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
1994.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
少年及家事法院組織法第14條及第15條條文修正草案等2案 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
1994.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
1997.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
5 病案審查委員吳小林等18人領聚 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
1997.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
2001.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
懲戒法院組織法第6條及第7條條文修正草案等2案 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
2001.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
2004.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
本次會議有委員陳昭思等8人提出質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
2004.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
2006.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
委員蔡其昌等3人提出書面質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
2006.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
2009.18 |
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決議1 報告及詢答完畢 |
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2009.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
2011.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
2 第一案至第5案均另定期繼續審查 |
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2011.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
2015.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
3 委員質詢時要求提供相關資料會以書面答覆者 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
2015.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
2017.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
請相關機關禁訴 |
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2017.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
2018.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
送交個別委員及本會 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
2018.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
2019.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
宣讀完畢 |
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2021.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
2025.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
請問各位委員上次的會議意識錄有沒有錯誤或遺漏之處 |
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2026.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
2027.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
請問兩位委員 |
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2029.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
2030.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
謝謝 |
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2030.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
2031.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
那麼我們意識錄就確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
2031.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
2034.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
接著我就先介紹今天到場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
2034.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
2035.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
以及應邀列席的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
2035.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
2038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
首先介紹在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
2038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
2039.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
有吳宗憲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
2040.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
2041.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
侯孟凱委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
2042.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
2044.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
還有陳昭治委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
2044.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
2045.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
2045.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
2047.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
那麼今天列席的官員有 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
2047.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
2050.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
司法院的高清志秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
2051.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
2053.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
然後法務部的黃茉欣政務次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
2054.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
2056.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
以及這個叫政署副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
2056.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
2058.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
書副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
2059.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
2063.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
那麼其他的列席代表就請參閱名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
2063.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
2066.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
本席不在逐一介紹並列入公報紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
2066.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
2068.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
本次議程討論事項排定 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
2068.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
2073.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
就是審查委員賴會員等17人所擬具的刑事訴訟法 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
2073.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
2075.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
部分條文修正草案等7案 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
2075.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
2079.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
那本次的會議就先進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
2082.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
2085.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
那麼我們首先先進行委員提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
2085.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
2088.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
每位發言的時間是3分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
2088.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
2090.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
那麼我們就先請提案人 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
2090.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
2093.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
提案委員來進行提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
2093.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
2097.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
首先我們先邀請侯孟凱委員來進行提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
2099.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
2100.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
2104.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
2107.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
主席在場各位委員以及司法院秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
2107.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
2109.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
我們司法院的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
2109.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
2113.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
執政權再大也不能大過憲法 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
2113.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
2115.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
中華民國憲法是五權分立 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
2115.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
2119.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
大家共同互相尊重各自其職 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
2119.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
2123.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
但最重要的是我們要花所有的力氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
2123.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
2126.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
讓台灣2350萬人有一個更好的生活 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
2126.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
2128.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
所以剛剛坐在台下 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
2128.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
2130.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
孟凱跟我們中憲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
2130.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
2134.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
雖然他現在也在忙著他為人民服務的機會 |
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可是他也一樣來到這個現場 |
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其實我們都只有一個感慨 |
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就是政府如果說現在沒有聽到被害者 |
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2143.66 |
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聽到廣大民眾的訴求 |
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2143.66 |
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2145.66 |
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而因為還是要搞政治的話 |
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2145.66 |
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2149.66 |
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我們還是要善盡職守為人民來把關 |
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2149.66 |
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2151.66 |
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因此感謝今天召委提出 |
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2154.38 |
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刑事訴訟法不問條文的修正草案 |
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2154.38 |
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2156.38 |
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我們要處理的問題核心很簡單 |
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2156.38 |
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2159.18 |
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就是過去到現在 |
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2159.18 |
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2163.66 |
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長期被忽略被忽視被輕視的犯罪被害人 |
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2163.66 |
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2165.66 |
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在刑事審判程序中 |
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2165.66 |
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2168.7 |
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不是只是一個來被通知法院的人 |
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2171.5 |
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而是能夠真正擁有合理效率 |
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2171.5 |
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2174.3 |
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而且尊重的程序參與權 |
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2174.3 |
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2176.86 |
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因為我們不要讓所謂的訴訟參與 |
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2176.86 |
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2179.66 |
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變成流於刑事主義 |
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2183.34 |
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尤其是對於重大暴力性侵害人家庭暴力的案件 |
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2183.34 |
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2187.66 |
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被害者其家屬不只是承受犯罪所受到的傷害 |
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2187.66 |
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2189.66 |
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進入到司法程序之中 |
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2189.66 |
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2192.46 |
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還必須面對繁複的訴訟程序 |
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2192.46 |
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2196.86 |
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被告證人以及旁聽群眾所帶來的心理壓力 |
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2196.86 |
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2201.18 |
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如果說我們現前法令只有保障他們到庭聽訊 |
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2203.18 |
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最後陳述幾句 |
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2203.18 |
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2205.9 |
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卻沒有辦法合理的掌握審判的資訊 |
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2205.9 |
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2209.1 |
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缺乏充分的代理跟程序協助的話 |
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2209.1 |
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2211.9 |
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那就真的只是刑事主義 |
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2212.59 |
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2214.99 |
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因此本期間所提出來的版本 |
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2214.99 |
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2218.99 |
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也受到多位委員的共同連署以及這個共提 |
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2218.99 |
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2220.99 |
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最主要就要從幾個面向來補強 |
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2222.99 |
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包括訴訟參與人 |
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2222.99 |
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2227.55 |
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可以對於偏頗有餘的法官依法申請迴避 |
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2227.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
2231.31 |
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擴大被害者及家屬委任代理人的保障 |
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2231.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
2235.79 |
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以及能夠讓訴訟參與人在一定條件下申請 |
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2235.79 |
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2241.15 |
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取得審判的錄音錄影核對筆錄以及了解程序的進行 |
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2241.31 |
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2245.15 |
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還有我們也希望能夠把被害人表示意見的範圍 |
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2245.15 |
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2247.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
從單純的科行輕重 |
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2247.15 |
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2249.71 |
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擴及到附條件的緩刑保安處分 |
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2249.71 |
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2253.55 |
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以及其他與被害人安全尊嚴生活 |
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2253.55 |
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2255.55 |
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有重大關聯的處置 |
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2256.35 |
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2260.35 |
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特別強調這項修法不是要把被害人變成另一個檢察官 |
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2260.35 |
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2262.35 |
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也不是要削弱被告的防禦權 |
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2262.35 |
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2266.35 |
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相關的程序仍受法院許可、必要性、相當性 |
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2266.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
2270.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
私密保護以及訴訟秩序的節制 |
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2270.35 |
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2274.35 |
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但我們追求的是一個更成熟的刑事司法制度 |
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2274.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
2278.35 |
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保障被告的公平審判 |
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2278.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
2282.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
但也要讓被害人的尊嚴、聲音以及程序正義 |
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2282.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
2284.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
不要再被遺忘 |
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2284.75 |
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2286.75 |
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在這次的修法裡面 |
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2286.75 |
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2288.75 |
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我們希望競速能夠巡達完畢之後 |
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2288.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
2290.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
進入到逐條 |
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2290.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
2292.75 |
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真真正正看到 |
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2291.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
2295.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
台灣社會現在所缺乏的弱勢保障 |
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2295.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
2297.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
並且我們來補齊這一塊 |
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2297.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
2299.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
以上謝謝 |
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2299.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
2302.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
謝謝洪孟凱委員 |
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2301.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
2306.32 |
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接下來我們邀請五中縣委員來進行提案說明 |
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2312.07 |
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2314.07 |
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謝謝主席 |
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2314.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
2316.07 |
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我這次的草案總共五個重點 |
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2316.07 |
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2318.07 |
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包括被害人權益 |
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2318.07 |
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2322.07 |
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書記官支援還有放寬免檢送條件 |
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2322.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
2326.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
被害人聲音不能繼續在司法裡面消失 |
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2326.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
2330.07 |
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還有書記官不應該繼續用健康來換案件的結案 |
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2330.07 |
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2332.07 |
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我想這次是這五個重點 |
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2332.07 |
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2334.07 |
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那但我今天提案說明 |
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2334.07 |
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2338.07 |
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我要把其中的兩個重要的再重新再論述一次 |
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2338.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
2340.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
今年三月貪汙被告中油公司的前執行長徐漢 |
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2340.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
2342.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
他本來被裁定電子腳鐐 |
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2342.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
2344.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
結果在宣判的前四天 |
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2344.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
2348.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
他用殺輪機一分鐘就切斷電子腳鐐 |
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2348.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
2350.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
帶著現金就跑掉 |
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2350.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
2352.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
那監控中心他得到警報之後再趕過去 |
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2352.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
2354.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
現場只剩下切斷了電子腳鐐 |
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2354.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
2356.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
人早就不見了 |
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2356.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
2358.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
所以這個案子暴露了一個漏洞 |
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2358.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
2360.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
就是電子腳鐐他不是萬靈丹 |
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2360.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
2362.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
設備斷了人失聯了 |
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2362.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
2364.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
第一線警力能做什麼 |
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2364.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
2366.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
依照現行法的規定 |
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2366.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
2368.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
他只能等法院重新裁定 |
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2368.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
2370.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
才能再抓人 |
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2370.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
2372.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
這個等待時間就是被告逃亡的時間 |
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2372.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
2374.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
所以從去年的中文之戰到今年的徐漢 |
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2374.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
2376.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
我們證明了一件事情 |
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2376.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
2378.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
我們防逃的制度即使反應能力太差 |
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2378.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
2380.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
所以我的草案這次明定說 |
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2380.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
2382.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
只要被告違反規定 |
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2382.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
2384.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
情況急迫的時候 |
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2384.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
2386.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
警察可以先抓人 |
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2386.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
2388.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
事後再跟檢察官請票 |
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2388.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2390.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
那第二個我想要論述的重點 |
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2390.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
2392.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
是判決書的簡化 |
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2392.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
2394.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
那有人評論說 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
2394.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
2396.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
如果判決書簡化 |
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2397.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
2399.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
法官少寫一些字 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
2399.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
2401.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
會不會違背了法官說禮物 |
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2401.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
2403.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
我想我自己當過檢察官 |
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2403.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
2405.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
我很清楚司法現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
2405.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
2407.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
現在是什麼的樣子 |
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2407.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
2411.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
讓司法官心力交瘁的事情是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
2411.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
2413.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
我來跟各位報告 |
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2413.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2415.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
司法院4月的新聞稿提到 |
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2415.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
2417.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
114年地方法院總受理件數 |
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2417.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
2419.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
相較110年 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
2419.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2421.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
增加了18萬8千多件 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
2421.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
2423.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
漲幅將近4成 |
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2423.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
2425.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
這個漲幅比房價漲的還高 |
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2425.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2427.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
比房價漲的還誇張 |
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2427.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2429.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
司法院書面報告也提到 |
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2429.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2431.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
現在的地院的刑庭 |
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2431.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
2433.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
每個月每個法官平均 |
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2433.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
2435.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
新收案件數從52件 |
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2435.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2437.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
攀升到68件 |
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2437.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2439.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
增加超過3成 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
2439.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2441.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
那法官人數呢 |
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2441.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2443.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
增加卻不到3% |
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2443.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
2445.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
那案件量漲了將近40% |
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2445.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
2447.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
但是法官多不到3% |
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2447.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2449.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
那這個缺口是靠法官、書記官 |
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2449.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2451.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
他們賣肝長期用自己的健康 |
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2451.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2453.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
在那邊打拼的 |
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2453.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2456.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
那我很多時候很清楚 |
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2457.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2459.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
司法官最心力交瘁的 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
2459.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2461.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
常常是書類的製作 |
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2461.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2463.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
他不是開庭、不是帶隊搜索 |
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2463.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2465.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
不是熬夜,他常常都是書類的製作 |
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2465.58 |
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2467.58 |
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所以我規劃 |
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2467.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2469.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
什麼樣的案子可以用簡化 |
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2469.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2471.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
第一個被告已經認罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
2471.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2473.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
或是事實沒有爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2473.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2475.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
或是雙方對起訴內容不爭執的案件 |
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2475.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2477.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
像這種法官、法院 |
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2477.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2479.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
本來就不需要花大量的 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2479.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2481.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
篇幅去記載 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
2481.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2483.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
事實是怎麼認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2483.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2485.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
這個證據為什麼採 |
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2485.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2487.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
所以這個部分我們要把它簡化 |
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2487.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2489.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
那因為這些沒有爭點 |
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2489.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2491.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
卻要求一份完整的判決書格式 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2491.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2493.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
其實這個沒有必要 |
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2493.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2495.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
而且是把法官的時間 |
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2495.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2497.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
鎖在這個沒有爭議的文書上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2499.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2501.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
當然我的草案也同時設了一道防線 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2501.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2503.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
就是案件如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2503.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2505.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
五年以上的重罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2505.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2507.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
但是最後法官找了一堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2507.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2509.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
簡型的條件把它剪到判刑兩年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2509.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2511.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
這個時候不能用 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2511.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2513.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
簡化的方式 |
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2513.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2515.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
因為法官必須對這一類的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2515.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2517.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
去說理清楚 |
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2517.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2519.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
這個是社會需要看到的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2519.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2521.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
最後我強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2521.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2523.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
司法過勞的這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2523.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2525.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
已經很嚴重了 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2525.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2527.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
最後的影響不是這些司法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2527.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2529.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
而是所有受害者會是全國人民的身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
2529.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2531.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
司法人力長期的超載 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2531.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2533.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
負荷不良 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
2533.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2535.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
其實這個消耗過量的 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2535.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2537.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
精力在文書作業上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2537.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2539.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
那真正複雜有爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2539.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2541.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
他必須攸關人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2541.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2543.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
自由生命財產的重大案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2543.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2545.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
得不到有應有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2545.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2547.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
審理資源那嚴當 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2547.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2549.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
就會讓每一個在等待 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2549.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2551.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
司法給出答案的人永遠等不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2551.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2553.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
所以這是我這次修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2553.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2555.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
想要解決的一個重大問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2555.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2558.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
謝謝各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2571.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2573.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
好,接著我們請翁小林委員做提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2581.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2583.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
主席、各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2583.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2585.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
還有在座的司法院還有法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
2585.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2587.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
以及機關代表們 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
2587.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2589.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2589.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2591.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
那本席今天所提出的三項刑事訴訟法 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2591.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2593.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
草案的修正 |
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2593.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2595.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
核心呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2595.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2597.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
主要是可以歸納為兩個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2597.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2599.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
第一個是提升刑事審判的效能 |
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2599.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2601.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
我們要讓有限的司法資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
2601.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2603.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
可以用在真正需要審慎 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2603.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2605.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
審理的案件之上 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2605.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2607.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
第二個呢我們就是要強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2607.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2609.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
犯罪被害人的訴訟參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2609.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2611.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
所以我們要讓這個聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
2611.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2613.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
真正能夠進入到審判 |
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2613.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2615.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
可以反映在判決上面 |
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2615.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2617.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
那麼首先 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
2617.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2619.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
現在提升司法效能的方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
2619.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2621.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
那目前我們照刑事案件的數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2621.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2623.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
一直不斷的持續的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2623.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2625.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
法院、法官以及書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2625.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2627.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
都承受相當 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
2627.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2629.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
沉重的案件負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2629.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2631.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
那麼因此在第一個部分 |
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2631.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2633.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2633.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2635.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
本席這邊是以民案、訴斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2635.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2637.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
疑案、審斷為原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2637.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2639.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
刑事程序分流 |
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2639.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2641.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
科技運用以及簡化重複的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
2641.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2643.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
等等這三方面來著手 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2643.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2645.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
這包括了 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2645.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2647.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
要適度的擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2647.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2649.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
檢視的審判以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2649.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2651.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
協商程序的適用範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2651.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2653.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
那麼對於人身自由受到拘束的被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2653.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2655.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
在本人同意不妨礙 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2655.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2657.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
與辯護人 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2657.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2659.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
充分自由溝通以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
2659.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2661.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
法院認為適當的前提之下 |
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2661.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2663.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
就可以利用 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
2663.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2665.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
視訊設備來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
2665.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2667.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
檢視審判來減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2667.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2669.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
體檢往返所耗費的 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2669.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2671.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
時間與人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
2671.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
2673.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
同時草案也讓審判的 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
2673.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2675.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
筆錄製作更為彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2675.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2677.54 |
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要簡化當事人已經 |
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實質、知悉而且同意的 |
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證據調查程序 |
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那麼對於 |
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2683.54 |
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2685.54 |
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檢視審判的案件 |
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2685.54 |
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2687.54 |
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也可以宣示判決筆錄 |
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2687.54 |
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2689.54 |
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來取代完整的判決書 |
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2689.54 |
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2691.54 |
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假設當事人合法 |
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2693.54 |
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提起上訴 |
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2693.54 |
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2695.54 |
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如果當事人 |
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2695.54 |
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2697.54 |
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可以合法提起上訴 |
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2697.54 |
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2699.54 |
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就可以再補刑製作判決書 |
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2699.54 |
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2701.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
那麼這個修法的目的 |
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2701.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
2703.54 |
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不是犧牲程序的保障 |
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2703.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
2705.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
而是要減少沒有實質必要的 |
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2705.54 |
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2707.54 |
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重複作業 |
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2707.54 |
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2709.54 |
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我們要把司法的資源 |
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2709.54 |
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2711.54 |
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留給真正需要耗費時日調查的 |
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2711.54 |
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2713.54 |
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繁複案件 |
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2714.36 |
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2716.36 |
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其次在犯罪被害人權益的保障方面 |
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2718.36 |
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那麼我們也提出 |
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2718.36 |
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2720.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
兩項相互配套的修正 |
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2720.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
2722.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
那我們知道現行的制度 |
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2722.36 |
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2724.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
雖然已經有犯罪被害人的訴訟參與機制 |
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但是參與人 |
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2728.36 |
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對於證據調查的實質參與 |
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2728.36 |
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2730.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
仍然是相當有限的 |
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2730.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
2732.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
因此本席正式修正 |
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2732.36 |
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2734.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
第455條之46 |
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2734.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
2736.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
就是要讓訴訟參與人 |
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2736.36 |
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2738.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
以及他的代理人 |
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2740.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
不是只是坐在法庭裡面 |
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2740.36 |
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2742.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
聽審 |
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2742.36 |
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2744.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
要求證據 |
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2744.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
2746.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
的證明裡來表示意見 |
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2746.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
2748.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
並且在調查證據的時候 |
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2748.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
2750.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
他是有適當的機會 |
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2750.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
2752.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
可以去詢問檢察官 |
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2752.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
2754.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
證人鑑定人或是被告 |
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2754.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
2756.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
當然也同時保留 |
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2756.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
2758.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
審判長的訴訟指揮權 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
2758.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
2760.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
來避免程序遭到不當的延宕 |
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2760.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
2762.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
但是呢我們要知道 |
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2762.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
2764.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
有機會說還不夠 |
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2764.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
2766.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
更重要的是我們必須要確保 |
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2766.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
2768.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
法院是有認真 |
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2768.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
2770.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
聽有留下理由 |
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| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
2772.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
留下紀錄 |
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2772.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
2774.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
因此在第310條修正草案 |
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2774.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
2776.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
進一步的要求 |
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2776.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
2778.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
有罪判決的理由當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
2778.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
2780.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
應該要記載訴訟參與人 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
2780.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
2782.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
以及其代理人就證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
2782.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
2784.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
證明力以及科行範圍 |
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2784.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
2786.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
所表示的意見 |
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2786.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
2788.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
那麼如此才能夠讓被害人的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
2788.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
2790.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
參與從刑事上的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
2790.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
2792.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
進一步的成為法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
2792.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
2794.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
必須面對判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
2794.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
2796.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
要可以檢驗的實質參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
2796.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
2798.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
這三項修法 |
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2798.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
2800.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
看起來似乎是 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
2800.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
2802.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
分別處理司法效率以及被害人權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
2802.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
2804.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
但是它實際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
2804.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
2806.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
都有一個共同的目標 |
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2806.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
2808.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
就是要簡化程序 |
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2808.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
2810.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
該簡化的程序就要合理的簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
2810.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
2812.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
該保障的權利就應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
2812.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
2814.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
要實質的保障 |
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2814.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
2816.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
那我們希望透過刑事程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
2816.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
2818.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
的合理分流 |
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2818.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
2820.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
科技以及人力資源 |
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2820.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
2822.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
的有效運用來降低 |
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2822.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
2824.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
司法不必要的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
2824.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
2826.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
同時也要讓犯罪被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
2826.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
2828.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
不再只是刑事程序的 |
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2828.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
2830.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
旁聽者 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
2830.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
2832.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
而是真正具有程序參與 |
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2832.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
2834.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
以及意見表達空間 |
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2834.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
2836.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
那麼我們要讓司法 |
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2836.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
2838.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
更有效率 |
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2838.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
2840.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
也要讓程序更有正義 |
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2840.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
2842.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
要讓案件能夠迅速的審判 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
2842.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
2844.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
也要讓人民的聲音 |
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2844.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
2846.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
真正的被法院聽見 |
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2846.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
2848.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
所以以上三項修正草案 |
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2848.36 |
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2850.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
還請各位委員支持 |
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2850.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
2852.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
謝謝 |
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2866.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
2868.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
那麼接下來我們就請機關代表報告 |
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2868.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
2870.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
那每位發言時間是三分鐘 |
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2870.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
2872.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
我們首先先請 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
2872.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
2874.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
司法院的高晶智秘書長 |
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2874.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
2876.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
來進行報告謝謝 |
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2879.94 |
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2881.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
主席各位委員 |
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2881.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
2883.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
各位先進大家早安 |
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2883.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
2885.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
2885.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
2887.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
法治委員會會議審查 |
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2887.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
2889.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
委員會議員等 |
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2889.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
2891.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
17人凝聚的刑事訴訟法 |
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2891.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
2893.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
部分條文 |
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2893.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
2895.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
修正草案等七案 |
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2895.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
2897.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
本院封邀前來練習 |
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2897.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
2899.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
現在報告如下 |
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2899.94 |
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2901.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
進行指教本次委員提案 |
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2901.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
2903.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
的核心有三點 |
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2903.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
2905.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
第一個是強化被害人地位 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
2905.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
2907.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
妥適配置司法資源 |
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2907.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
2909.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
以及落實憲法法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
2909.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
2911.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
113年憲判自第8號 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
2911.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
2913.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
判決議制 |
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2914.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
2916.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
那現在針對這三大 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
2916.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
2918.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
核心向委員報告 |
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2918.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
2920.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
第一個讓被害人的聲音 |
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2920.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
2922.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
在訴訟中被聽見 |
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2922.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
2924.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
委員所提案真定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
2924.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
2926.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
被害影響陳述制度 |
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在這個賦予訴訟 |
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參與人就科行範圍 |
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詢問被告的權利 |
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這是在審判中注入 |
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被害人真實聲音的 |
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非常進步的舉措 |
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本院進保贊同 |
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2942.14 |
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但是對於是不是要給被害人 |
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申請調查證據權 |
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2946.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
還有結問證人權的建議 |
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2948.14 |
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可能我們要 |
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2948.14 |
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2950.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
稍微保守審慎些 |
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2952.14 |
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因為如果是這樣 |
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2954.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
檢察官和訴訟參議員 |
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2954.14 |
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2956.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
非常可能各自申請 |
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2956.14 |
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2958.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
調查互相矛盾的證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
2958.14 |
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2960.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
或做不一致的結問 |
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2960.14 |
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2962.14 |
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可能會造成程序的混亂 |
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2962.14 |
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2964.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
甚至打亂 |
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2964.14 |
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2966.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
檢察官舉證的訴訟策略 |
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2966.14 |
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2968.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
所以整個程序是不是 |
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2970.14 |
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因為這個權利的具備 |
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2970.14 |
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2972.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
而對被害人更有利 |
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2972.14 |
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2974.14 |
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可能是建議審慎評估 |
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2976.14 |
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第二個 |
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2978.14 |
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關於妥適分配 |
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2980.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
司法資源非常感謝 |
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2982.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
委員們重視到我們司法 |
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2984.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
真的是處於崩潰的邊緣 |
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2986.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
剛剛委員有提到 |
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2986.14 |
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2988.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
我們的案件增長到 |
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2988.14 |
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2990.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
36.2%將近四成 |
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2990.14 |
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2992.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
可是我們法官跟數據官的人員成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
2992.14 |
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2994.14 |
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只有3% |
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2996.14 |
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跟11% |
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2998.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
實在是沒有辦法負荷 |
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3000.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
暴增四成的案件量 |
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3000.14 |
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3002.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
那怎麼讓法官跟數據官 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
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3004.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
能夠繼續生存 |
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3006.14 |
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司法需要增加人力 |
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| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
3008.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
但司法也要有效管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
3008.14 |
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3010.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
那委員提到的 |
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3010.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
3012.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
擴大檢視審判程序 |
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3012.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
3014.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
還有 |
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3014.28 |
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3016.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
簡化判決 |
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3017.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
3019.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
有人會認為說我們是不寫判決 |
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3019.96 |
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3021.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
其實不是的 |
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3021.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
3023.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
法官對於認罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
3023.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
3025.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
或者是非重大案件 |
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3025.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
3027.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
他有 |
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3027.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
3029.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
適用檢視審判程序的 |
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3029.96 |
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3031.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
才可以製作 |
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3031.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
3033.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
記載主文或事實要旨 |
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3033.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
3037.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
也要寫明所犯法條的判決筆錄 |
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3037.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
3039.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
送達給被告和檢察官 |
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3039.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
3041.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
他們有不服的時候 |
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3041.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
3043.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
當然可以上訴 |
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3043.96 |
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3045.96 |
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那從這邊來看 |
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3045.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
3047.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
第一審判決整體上訴率 |
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3047.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
3049.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
大概不到兩成 |
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3049.96 |
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3051.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
即使 |
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3051.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
3053.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
可是我們是寫百分之百案判決 |
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3053.96 |
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3055.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
即使因為沒有理由 |
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3057.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
3059.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
檢察官或被告要上訴 |
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3059.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
3063.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
可是應該也不會是百分之百上訴 |
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3063.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
3065.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
這種中間的 |
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3065.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
3067.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
這個差距就是 |
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3067.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
3069.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
可以讓法官檢審 |
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3069.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
3073.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
製作判決的所花費的時間 |
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3073.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
3075.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
那另外關於落實憲法法庭判決議旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
3075.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
3077.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
對委員的提案 |
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3077.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
3081.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
我們均盡表尊重以及支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
3081.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
3083.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
另外要向委員報告的 |
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3083.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
3085.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
本院已經凝聚 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
3085.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
3087.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
有關的刑事訴訟法 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
3087.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
3089.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
部分修正條文草案 |
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3089.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
3091.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
也在114年9月18 |
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3091.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
3093.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
115年4月30日 |
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3093.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
3095.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
送請行政院會議賢中 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
3095.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
3099.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
那有關本院對於委員提案 |
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3100.1 |
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3102.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
所做的足案表示意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
3102.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
3104.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
請參與本院的書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
3104.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
3106.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
以上報告 |
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3106.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
3108.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
敬請各位委員各位先進 |
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3108.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
3110.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
指教謝謝 |
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3111.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
3113.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
好謝謝高明署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
3113.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
3115.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
我們接下來再請法務部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
3115.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
3117.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
黃某姓正事來進行報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
3117.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
3119.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
謝謝 |
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3120.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
3122.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
3122.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
3124.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
主席各位委員各位女士各位先生 |
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3124.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
3126.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
今天奉邀列席大院委員會 |
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3126.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
3128.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
請代表本部報告並被質詢 |
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3128.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
3130.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
本部就夜館的部分 |
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3130.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
3132.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
重點報告如下 |
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3132.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
3134.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
第一有關於這個強化程序保障 |
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3134.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
3136.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
及審判效率的部分 |
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3136.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
3138.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
此行第三審強制辯護 |
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3138.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
3140.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
及延遲辯論的部分 |
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3140.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
3144.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
符合憲判至138號判決議旨 |
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3144.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
3146.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
本部尊重委員的提案及 |
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3146.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
3148.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
司法院的意見 |
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3148.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
3150.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
另外有關於簡化政績調查的相關提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
3150.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
3152.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
其次有關於訴訟經濟並兼顧當事人權益 |
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3152.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
3154.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
本部競表贊同 |
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3154.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
3156.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
第二有關於強化犯罪被害人訴訟參與的部分 |
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3156.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
3158.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
強化犯罪被害人的影響陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
3158.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
3160.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
以及被害人是否可以委任代理人席位 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
3160.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
3162.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
以及保護相關措施修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
3162.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
3164.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
本部競表贊同 |
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3164.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
3166.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
至於交付影音相關的重置物及抗告救濟的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
3166.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
3168.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
涉及到影音外流影視及安全風險等程序負擔事項 |
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3168.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
3170.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
另外訴訟參與影音的影音 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
3170.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
3172.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
以及影音外流影視及安全風險等程序負擔事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
3172.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
3174.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
另外訴訟參與影音的影音 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
3174.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
3176.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
以及影音外流影視及安全風險等程序負擔事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
3176.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
3178.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
另外訴訟參與人 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
3178.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
3180.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
申請獨立申請調查證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
3180.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
3182.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
跟直接發問以及意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
3182.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
3184.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
強制記名與筆錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
3184.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
3186.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
這涉及到這個程序地位 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
3186.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
3188.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
以及檢察官舉證責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
3188.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
3190.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
以及被告公平受審權 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
3190.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
3192.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
以及程序負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
3192.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
3194.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
3194.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
3196.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
3196.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
3198.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
見請在著 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
3198.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
3200.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
另外有關於簡化判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
3200.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
3202.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
檢視判決及協商程序部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
3202.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
3204.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
草案分別就簡化判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
3204.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
3206.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
放寬至宣告刑一年或兩年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
3206.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
3208.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
尤其徒刑拘禦罰金或免刑案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
3208.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
3210.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
使良刑的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
3210.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
3212.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
跟判決書的製作與否 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
3212.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
3214.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
產生直接的連動 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
3214.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
3216.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
這樣恐會影響法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
3216.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
3218.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
形成從寬適用或減刑的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
3218.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
3220.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
而傾向於宣告刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
3220.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
3222.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
較低的宣告刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
3222.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
3224.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
產生一個制度上的就因 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
3224.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
3226.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
制度上的就因 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
3226.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
3228.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
這部分上請在著 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
3228.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
3230.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
另外有關於檢視判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
3230.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
3232.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
另外有關於檢視審判 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
3232.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
3234.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
協商判決擴大適用的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
3234.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
3236.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
將會使目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
3236.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
3238.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
現今影響國家非常嚴重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
3238.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
3240.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
洗錢內線交易 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
3240.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
3242.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
特別備信賄選 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
3242.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
3244.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
甚至部分影響國發安全的 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
3244.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
3246.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
本質最重的重罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
3246.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
3248.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
一併都納入簡化的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
3248.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
3250.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
是否妥當人需評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
3250.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
3252.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
另外檢視判決如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
3252.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
3254.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
再搭配宣示判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
3254.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
3256.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
可以代替筆錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
3256.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
3258.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
可以代替判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
3258.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
3260.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
並申勸去完整事實的認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
3260.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3262.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
證據取捨及良心的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
3262.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3264.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
將會影響假官被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
3264.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3266.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
以及被害人評估是否提起 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
3266.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3268.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
上訴的可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
3268.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3270.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
將會嚴重的減損 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
3270.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3272.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
司法的信賴跟透明度 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
3272.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3274.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
上訴的提案進行在著 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
3274.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3276.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
另外有關強化防逃的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3276.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3278.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
羈押替代的處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
3278.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3280.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
在急迫情況之下可以進行具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
3280.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
3282.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
這有助於強化相關的防逃機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3282.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3284.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
本部也競表贊同 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
3284.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3286.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
其餘的意見參請今天的書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
3286.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
3288.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
以上報告謝謝各位指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3288.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
3290.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3290.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3292.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
謝謝黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3292.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3294.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
那麼其餘練習機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
3294.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3296.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
還有沒有一個口頭報告或補充的 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
3298.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3300.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
沒有的話那麼我們機關代表就報告完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
3300.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3302.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
相關書面內容請各位參閱 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
3302.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3304.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
並列入公報記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
3304.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3306.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
那我們現在就開始進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
3306.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3308.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
那本會委員詢答的時間為8分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
3308.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3310.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
必要的時候得延長2分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3310.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3312.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
非本會委員詢答的時間為5分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
3312.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3314.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
並不再延長 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3314.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3316.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
那我們上午10點30分 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3316.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3318.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
就截止發言登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
3318.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3320.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
那我們現在先請登記第一位的 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
3320.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
3322.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
吳宗憲委員來進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
3326.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
3328.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
謝謝主席我們麻煩司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
3330.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3332.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
請高民署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
3332.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
3334.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
3335.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
3337.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
吳部長我現在先肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
3337.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3339.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
司法院的一件事情就是你們的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
3339.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
3341.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
有明確的支持我提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
3341.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
3343.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
被害影響陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3343.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
3345.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
就是當法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
3345.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3347.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
在決定這個要判被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
3347.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
3349.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
奪狀之前應該要給被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
3349.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
3351.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
一個說出他心裡話的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
3351.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
3353.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
讓他說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3353.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3355.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
這個犯罪對我的心理家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
3355.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3357.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
對我的身體造成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3357.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3359.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
人身什麼樣重大的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
3359.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3361.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
要讓他說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
3361.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3363.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
我在這邊要先說一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
3363.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3365.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
我從當檢察官到當局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
3365.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3367.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
到現在當立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
3367.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3369.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
我長期在第一線接觸跟陪伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
3369.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3371.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
這些被害人的家屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
3371.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3373.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
那有些家屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
3373.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3375.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
家庭是暴力的被害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3375.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
3377.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
有些是像殺人的重案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
3377.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3379.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
那個遺屬他們常常都會說 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3379.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3381.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
一句話他們希望的 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
3381.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3383.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
第一個他們希望法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
3383.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3385.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
好好的聽他把話說完 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3385.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3387.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
但是他們常常得不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3387.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3389.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
在法庭上得不到這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3389.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3391.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
還有他說他們知道法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3391.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3393.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
不一定會按照他們想的去判 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3393.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3395.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
但是至少法官能夠知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
3395.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3397.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
我為什麼心裡這麼痛 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
3397.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3399.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
我為什麼過不了這個坎 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
3399.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3401.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
還有人說我不怕開庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
3401.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3403.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
但是我怕再遇到殺人犯 |
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我不想再遇到 |
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殺人犯或他的律師 |
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在法庭上面然後用質疑 |
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用逼問的態度來對待他們 |
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所以我的草案其實 |
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就在回應這些 |
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這些被害人他們最深層的需求 |
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那還有就是 |
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我希望能夠讓被害人 |
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能夠真正的說話 |
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不是說用疏狀也不是說用檢察官轉述 |
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那我也希望 |
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法院必須認真的回應這些 |
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被害人他們的論述 |
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那我希望呢被害人在法庭上 |
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不是只是一個旁觀者 |
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他們是真正能夠參與 |
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到這個判決裡面的人 |
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我們必須提升他的權益 |
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所以我修法的核心就是 |
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被害人他要的不是只是 |
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到法庭上面宣洩他的情緒 |
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而是有三件事 |
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安全被聽見還有被尊重 |
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我希望他們在法庭上 |
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能夠得到這樣的保障 |
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安全就是除了人身安全之外 |
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不要再被二次傷害 |
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被聽見就是他們心裡的想法 |
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他們的這些經歷他們心裡的痛 |
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法官必須要聽到 |
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而且有義務聆聽 |
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而且有義務回應 |
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3473.08 |
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被尊重是法院必須用判決告訴他 |
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你說的東西 |
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我有沒有採納我採納 |
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如果不採納的理由是什麼 |
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必須要讓當事人被害人知道 |
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所以今天既然被 |
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那個市法院支持我的這個提案 |
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所以我要說的就是 |
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我希望完成這個配套 |
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我讓被害人他能夠完整的說完 |
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3491.08 |
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完整的被聽見 |
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而且能夠論述的清楚 |
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3497.08 |
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那這個配套其實有兩個重點 |
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第一個是隱私權的保護 |
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第二個是陪同權 |
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3503.08 |
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我想上個月我在質詢的時候 |
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3505.08 |
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我曾經有問到幾個東西 |
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3507.08 |
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就是被害人主動陳述的時候 |
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3509.08 |
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陪同制度可不可以明文 |
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還有各支如何強化 |
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3513.08 |
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那請問一下 |
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那個秘書長 |
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| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
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這個部分你們有沒有 |
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目前有沒有具體的作為或想法 |
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3521.08 |
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跟委員報告 |
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| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
3523.08 |
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這個關於這個隱私的保護 |
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還有這個陪同的部分 |
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| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
3527.08 |
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現行法都已經有規定 |
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3529.08 |
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而且我們也有關於 |
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| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
3531.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
醫情注意事項 |
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| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
3533.08 |
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更要求各法院 |
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| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
3535.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
尤其剛剛委員所提到的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3537.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
當被害人不想碰到某些人 |
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3537.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
3539.08 |
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要怎麼去遮蔽 |
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3539.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
3541.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
怎麼去隔離 |
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3541.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
3543.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
這個我們都有規定 |
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3543.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3545.08 |
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要各法院做到 |
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3545.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
3547.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
那法律有規定 |
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3547.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3549.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
那關於剛剛陪同的 |
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3549.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3551.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
不只是他的親屬可以陪同 |
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| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
3553.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
他甚至可以有特定的 |
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3553.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3555.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
這個要求 |
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3555.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
3557.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
心理師社公司都可以來陪同 |
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3557.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
3559.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
到庭 |
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3559.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3561.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
謝謝秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
3561.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
3563.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
我先講一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
3563.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3565.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
實務上面法律規定以及說到 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
3565.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
3567.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
跟法官做到 |
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3567.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
3569.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
其實還有滿大的一段差距 |
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3569.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3571.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
那我跟你說為什麼 |
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3571.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3573.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
其實我有看過你們回應王世堅委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
3573.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3575.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
對各支保護的這個個案裡面 |
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3575.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3577.08 |
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你說現行法有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
3577.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3579.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
就像您剛剛說的 |
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3579.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3581.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
譬如說248條之三 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3581.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3583.08 |
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或者是271條之二 |
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3583.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3585.08 |
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其實都有規範的很清楚 |
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3585.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3587.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
要求保護隱私 |
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| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3589.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
包括去識別化這個都有 |
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3587.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3589.44 |
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真的有被保護到嗎 |
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3589.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3591.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
上個會期我在校園割喉案的時候 |
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3591.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3593.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
我當時也有質詢過您 |
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3593.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3595.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
楊爸爸就是被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
3595.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3597.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
死者的爸爸他公開說 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
3597.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3599.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
他說整個訴訟裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
3599.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3601.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
我家的住址在哪裡我上班在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3601.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3603.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
全部都被攤開了 |
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3603.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3605.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
所以法律有規定 |
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3605.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3607.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
跟實務有沒有做到其實很大的一段差距 |
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3607.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3609.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
現在造成什麼 |
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3609.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3611.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
一個人失去了兒子 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3612.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3614.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
這個爸爸每天在想 |
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3614.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3616.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
殺害我兒子的人他今天會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3616.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3618.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
跑到我家來殺我結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3618.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3620.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
我們看到的是連他的電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3620.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3622.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
工作地點全部都曝光 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3622.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3624.69 |
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那這個時候就不對啦 |
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3624.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3626.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
你說法律有規定或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3626.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3628.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
有再三的教育法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3628.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3630.69 |
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但是我們看到的結論是這樣 |
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3630.69 |
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3632.69 |
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是不是應該分券處理 |
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3632.69 |
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3634.69 |
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是不是應該把很多東西 |
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要把它隱匿掉之後 |
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3636.69 |
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3638.69 |
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你才能夠讓律師越券 |
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3638.69 |
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3640.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
這個是我一直以來我想要 |
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3639.53 |
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3641.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
強調的部分還有你們對國民法官 |
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3641.53 |
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3643.53 |
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你們保護非常非常的嚴謹 |
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3643.53 |
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3645.53 |
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我想這個沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3645.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3647.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
國民法官的所有資料大家都查不到 |
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3647.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3649.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
但是家暴的被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3649.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3651.53 |
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性侵的被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3651.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3653.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
跟騷的被害人組織犯罪的被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3653.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3655.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
他們被報復的風險難道 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3655.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3657.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
會低於這些國民法官嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3657.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3659.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
我想他們被報復風險可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3659.53 |
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3661.53 |
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更高但是我們對他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3661.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3663.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
保障卻不夠這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3663.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3665.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
司法院如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3665.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3667.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
有法律規定了但是實務 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3667.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3669.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
這個就是這樣的顯現出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3669.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3671.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
這個就變成怠惰 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3671.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3673.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
所以民主黨再繼續努力改善好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3673.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3675.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
可以嗎你可以承諾我們嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3675.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3677.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
跟委員報告那個楊爸爸那一件 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3677.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3679.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
真的是我們自己在 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3679.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3681.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
那是民事判決的疏失 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3681.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3683.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
我們一直注重刑事 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3683.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3685.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
一直注重刑事判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3685.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3687.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
結果提起損害賠償 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3687.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3689.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
民事判決的疏失 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3689.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3691.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
但是民主黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3691.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3693.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
我們一定要改過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3693.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3695.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
民眾不懂刑事民事 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3695.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3697.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
他只知道我東西被公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3697.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3699.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
好嗎民主黨這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3699.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3701.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
麻煩你一定要處理好 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3701.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3703.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
好那民主黨目前我國有陪同制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3703.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3705.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
對不對271條之3 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3705.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3707.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
有陪同制度嘛但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3707.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3709.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
我們現行的陪同制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3709.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3711.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
好像只是留一個刑事 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3711.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3713.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
其實我一直很希望就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3713.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3715.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
我們在案件處理的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3715.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3717.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
我們能夠讓被害人自己站起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3717.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3719.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
主動的把犯罪對他造成的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3719.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3721.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
能夠把他說出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3721.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3723.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
我想這個才是重點像土城 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3723.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3725.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
那個獨家壯士警察的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3726.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3728.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
家屬是在法庭上面下跪 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3728.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3730.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
要求法官判死刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3730.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3732.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
然後我們剛剛那個那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3732.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3734.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
講了那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3734.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3736.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
那個這個案子這個警察的爸爸 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
3736.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3738.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
那個劉爸爸 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3738.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3740.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
他說一個人死亡 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
3740.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3742.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
不是只有一個人死亡 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
3742.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3744.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
他的家庭也毀了 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
3744.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3746.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
他的爸爸媽媽的家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
3746.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3748.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
也毀了 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3748.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3750.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
然後這個死者他的太太的 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3750.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3752.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
爸媽那邊岳父岳母的家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3752.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3754.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
也都毀了所以他毀的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3754.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3756.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
好幾個家庭啊然後台南 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3756.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3758.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
那個有一個殺雙兩個警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3758.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3760.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
被殺死那個屠民城跟曹瑞傑 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3760.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3762.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
那個案子他的那個姐姐 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3762.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3764.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
每一次到法院來他都說 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3764.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3766.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
好像在夢裡面一樣每一分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3766.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3768.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
他都想要昏倒他都可能會昏倒 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3768.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3770.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
在現場所以我今天要講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3770.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3772.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
訴訟對於這些被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3772.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3774.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
他長期的承受的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3774.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3776.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
是非常大所以我才會認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3776.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3778.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
這個陪同制度非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3778.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3780.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
所以你看嘛到底被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3780.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3782.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
陳述到一半情緒崩潰可不可以暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3782.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3784.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
安全有安全意義可不可以遠距 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3784.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
3786.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
心理思設功能不能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
3786.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
3788.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
坐在旁邊真正的給予支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
3788.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
3790.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
範寶要怎麼銜接重大 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
3790.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
3792.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
案件在開庭之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
3792.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
3794.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
有沒有人告訴家屬接下來的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
3794.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
3796.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
會怎麼走還有有沒有人協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
3796.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
3798.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
他們整理過往的 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
3798.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
3800.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
主張而不是要求法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
3800.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
3802.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
每一次每一次都開庭要請 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
3802.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
3804.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
他一再的陳述你知道那個馬大生 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
3804.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
3806.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
被殺案他的媽媽每次來 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
3806.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
3808.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
台灣結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
3808.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
3810.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
法官要他一次一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
3810.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
3812.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
一次的論述他女兒這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
3812.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
3814.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
被強姦殺害的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
3814.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
3816.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
這個對父母的 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
3817.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
3819.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
比殺了他還痛苦啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
3819.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
3821.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
3820.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
3822.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
這樣的制度有問題嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
3822.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
3824.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
你譬如說你的這個陳述是不是一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
3824.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
3826.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
有人整理完畢之後法官不用再 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
3826.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
3828.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
一再的重複他可能需要就 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
3828.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
3830.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
犯罪事實調查沒有清楚的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
3830.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
3832.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
再次詢問而不需要就 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
3832.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
3834.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
診斷的重新在法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
3834.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
3836.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
上面公開再來所以我們有時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
3836.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
3838.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
一直講我國刑事訴訟制度為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
3838.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
3840.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
一定要用複審制為什麼不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
3840.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
3842.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
續審制你複審制 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
3842.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
3844.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
搞得所有東西重新 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
3844.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
3846.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
再來一次所有制度重新再來一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
3846.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
3848.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
結果最嚴謹的一審的 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
3848.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
3850.56 |
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交互結論結果你二審你反而 |
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用沒有像一審那麼嚴謹的 |
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制度要去又可以去否決 |
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一審的判決 |
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這就是我其實我從第一年當立委 |
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我就一直在說為什麼我國刑事訴訟 |
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不走向續審制而是走 |
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複審制非常非常 |
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感謝委員願意支持二審 |
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走向續審制其實剛委員所 |
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提到的就因為複審制 |
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在二審所造成事實 |
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重複的調查那當然 |
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法官在訴訟指揮的時候 |
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可能不夠體貼我必須要這樣 |
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講那有些 |
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尤其這一次像剛委員所說 |
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的這個陪同到場 |
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這個被害人他 |
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老實說我覺得被害人 |
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並不是很清楚 |
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因為我相信沒有人希望被害 |
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沒有人知道這個規定 |
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所以這也是我們一直要再要求 |
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法院關於被害人 |
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這些權利務必要 |
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告訴清楚這個是我們 |
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一直努力的方向 |
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那這個也是我的主軸我要跟你說的 |
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這是我最大的關鍵就是被害人 |
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把最痛的事情說完之後 |
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法院有義務 |
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要用判決告訴他 |
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你的話我聽到了我的考量 |
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是什麼你心裡的痛我聽到了 |
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我給你的回應是什麼 |
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而不是永遠就是那個罐頭式的用語 |
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被害人身心受創慎重 |
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那個沒有用 |
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那個當事人沒有感覺 |
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所以我要讓被害人的 |
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訴訟參與制度不是可以 |
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參與而已我是要讓他 |
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真的有安全有尊嚴的 |
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能夠完整的參與 |
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這是我希望的 |
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那其實你想還有一個 |
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我們常常在講施多講那個女教師 |
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被殺害的案子 |
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那個教授的太太她被強姦殺人 |
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被殺害 |
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張教授這到 |
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更市審改判無期徒刑 |
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他一路走下來十年 |
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他說他看到被告永遠是三個律師 |
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在幫他他是到二審 |
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才知道原來範寶可以協助他 |
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請一個律師他之前完全不知道 |
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那他就他在當場 |
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他開庭的感覺就是我被一群人 |
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欺負然後被告又是國家 |
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聘了他律師來一起欺負我這個 |
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悲慘的被害人 |
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所以他的感覺是這樣所以我們 |
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很多時候我一直在想我們的制度把 |
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被害人把被我們的制度把被告 |
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保障的這麼完善 |
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但是我們的制度卻忘了 |
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被害人如果司法還有 |
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一點點溫暖我們應該留給 |
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的是被害人而不是 |
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毫無保留的留給被告 |
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那這樣子世界不需要正義了嘛 |
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犯錯的人我們來保護他 |
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被害的人大家一起 |
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忘記他這個世界都不要 |
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正義這也不是我們司法人能夠接受 |
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的事嘛所以我一直 |
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拜託你們要注意這個 |
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點 |
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我想就是張教授這十年來 |
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他一直告訴法院是什麼 |
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他對於改叛無期徒刑 |
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他一直覺得法官法院都沒有 |
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跟他說原因是什麼 |
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他一直看不到也不知道 |
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原因這也是我這次要 |
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修法院我認為法院 |
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有義務要告訴大家說 |
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我為什麼輕判了 |
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或你的痛苦在哪 |
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我要告訴你我有聽到 |
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我從來沒有要求法官要 |
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依照當事人的要求去判 |
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我從來沒有這樣要求但是 |
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請就當事人的論述加以 |
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說明民主黨這部分你不知道認不認同 |
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法官所提到沒有錯我們的 |
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那個刑事訴訟法向來 |
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的走向忽略了量刑 |
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辯論這也是 |
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最近幾年量刑辯論被重視 |
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那量刑辯論裡面就是被害人 |
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陳述早期我們 |
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因為我們的刑事訴訟法 |
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是三面法官 |
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檢察官辯護人 |
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所以檢察官他應該 |
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要盡到照護被害人的 |
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責任我們以前把 |
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責任放在這邊就輕忽了 |
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4074.5 |
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被害人在審判陳述 |
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4074.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
4076.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
他應該被照顧的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
4076.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
4078.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
謝謝民主黨的認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
4078.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
4080.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
謝謝民主黨認同所以對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
4080.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
4082.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
這些事情我想民主黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
4082.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
4084.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
針對家屬要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
4084.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
4086.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
的任何東西法官至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
4086.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
4088.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
要告訴家屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
4088.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
4090.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
你的話我聽到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
4090.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
4092.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
我是怎麼想我是怎麼判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
4092.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
4094.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
還有我最後要告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
4094.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
4096.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
我的說理這個是我該做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
4096.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
4098.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
這是法官檢察官該做的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
4098.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
4100.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
所以這個務必要做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
4100.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
4102.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
還有今天你們對翁曉琳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
4102.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
4104.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
的提案有一個疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
4104.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
4106.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
你們說翁曉琳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
4106.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
4108.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
他要求你把一些這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
4108.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
4110.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
被害人創傷加靈狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
4110.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
4112.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
心理的感覺寫進 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
4112.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
4114.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
判決書裡面你們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
4114.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
4116.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
這個會造成一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
4116.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
4118.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
細節被公開這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
4118.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
4120.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
不妥的但是我要跟你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
4120.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
4122.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
報告就是說我沒有說法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
4122.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
4124.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
你們的想法完全錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
4124.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
4126.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
但是不公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
4126.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
4128.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
這個很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
4128.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
4130.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
你這些東西你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
4130.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
4132.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
公開了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
4132.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
4134.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
可能一些細節會 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
4134.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
4136.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
個人資料會露出來但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
4136.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
4138.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
你可以用去世別化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
4138.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
4140.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
你可以用私密的細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
4140.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
4142.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
不公開你可以分卷處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
4142.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
4144.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
你可以用很多方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
4144.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
4146.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
去解決這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
4146.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
4148.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
所以你不能說這個翁曉琳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
4148.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
4150.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
提出來說要求把這些東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
4150.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
4152.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
寫進判決這個就會讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
4152.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
4154.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
媒體什麼反覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
4154.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
4156.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
檢索造成二次曝光我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
4156.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
4158.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
有太容易的方式解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
4158.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
4160.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
書類我都寫過案件我也審理過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
4160.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
4162.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
我知道這個要很解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
4162.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
4164.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
很容易所以我不認為這是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
4164.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
4166.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
回覆翁曉琳委員的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
4166.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
4168.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
跟委員報告因為他在判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
4168.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
4170.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
裡面判決理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
4170.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
4172.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
要寫你要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
4172.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
4174.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
世別化跟委員報告跟各位委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
4174.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
4176.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
我們常常說去世別化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
4176.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
4178.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
很容易不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
4178.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
4180.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
然後另外一個現在你只要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
4180.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
4182.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
前因後果就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
4182.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
4184.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
看出所有內容所以我們是建議說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
4184.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
4186.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
當然法官在寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
4186.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
4188.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
有罪判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
4188.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
4190.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
在量刑論述的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
4190.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
4192.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
一定要聽取 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
4192.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
4194.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
被害人的意見被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
4194.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
4196.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
在陳述有重要的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
4196.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
4198.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
一定要寫在判決裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
4198.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
4200.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
但是我們是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
4200.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
4202.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
委員所提到的是要完全的陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
4202.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
4204.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
或者是應該要陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
4204.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
4206.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
可能我們稍微要保守一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
4206.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
4208.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
4208.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
4210.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
我們只要上過世好院裁判書類檢索系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
4210.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
4212.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
現在的判決很多地方都是圈圈圈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
4212.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
4214.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
一團都是圈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
4214.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
4216.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
它並沒有文字的顯示 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
4216.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
4218.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
所以一個判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
4218.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
4220.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
完整的描述的判決書是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
4220.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
4222.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
當事人可以拿到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
4222.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
4224.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
但是外面拿不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
4224.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
4226.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
外面看到的是網路上面的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
4226.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
4228.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
已經那個把它去世別化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
4228.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
4230.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
後的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
4230.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
4232.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
所以我認為這個東西不是問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
4232.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
4234.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
我希望說你們可以再思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
4234.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
4236.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
而不是用回翁小林委員的那樣子就回 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
4236.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
4238.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
我覺得我從實務上面來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
4238.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
4240.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
我認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
4239.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4241.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
這樣的給案子回應是合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
4241.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
4243.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
4243.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
4245.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
我希望就是因為實驗關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
4245.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
4247.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
我希望世好院能夠給幾個承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
4249.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
4251.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
我希望好兩件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
4251.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
4253.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
第一個三個月內提出完整的被害人跟訴訟參與人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
4253.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
4255.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
各支還有安全保護規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
4255.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4257.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
內容我就直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
4257.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
4259.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
秀在PTT上面我就不再論述 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
4259.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4261.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
還有第二個三個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4261.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4263.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
你要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
4263.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4265.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
那個被害影響陳述陪同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
4265.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
4267.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
跟支持機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
4267.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4269.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
我也希望你們提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
4269.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4271.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
這兩個可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
4270.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4272.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
可以喔好那謝謝喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
4272.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4274.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
最後30秒我講一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4274.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4276.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
我今天其實講五個家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4277.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4279.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
我一路以來這段時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4279.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4281.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
我看到這五個案子裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4281.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4283.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
他顯露出我國司法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4283.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4285.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
有非常非常多的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
4285.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4287.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
尤其是對於家屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4287.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4289.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
的那種折磨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4288.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
4290.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
施多獎女教師案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4291.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4293.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
的那個張教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
4293.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4295.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
他走了十年他還在問說 |
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4295.5 |
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我當初在法庭上面的聲音 |
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判決裡面到底寫到哪裡去了 |
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4299.5 |
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他看不到 |
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他講出他心裡的痛 |
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他在判決看不到 |
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4305.5 |
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4307.5 |
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馬來西亞女大生的媽媽 |
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4307.5 |
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他跨海來台一次次的講 |
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4309.5 |
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他失去唯一女兒的痛 |
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我們都有小孩嘛 |
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他跌倒破一個小洞 |
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我就擔心得半死了 |
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4317.5 |
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4319.5 |
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就他女兒被人家殺了 |
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4319.5 |
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4321.5 |
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那麼多被人家勒死 |
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有的被殺了很多刀 |
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他心裡的痛我們必須感同身受 |
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4326.33 |
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4328.33 |
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還有土城獨家案 |
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4328.33 |
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4330.33 |
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殺警案的那個家屬 |
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4330.33 |
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4332.33 |
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在法院裡面跪下來對法官下跪 |
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4332.33 |
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4336.33 |
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希望法官真正理解一個犯罪 |
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4336.33 |
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4338.33 |
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他摧毀多少人的人生 |
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4340.33 |
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跟多少家庭 |
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4340.33 |
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4342.33 |
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而不是只有一條人命 |
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4342.33 |
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失去是 |
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4344.33 |
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4346.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
他周邊的家人的人生 |
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4346.33 |
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4348.33 |
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都毀了法官 |
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4350.33 |
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有沒有去想到這個點 |
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4352.25 |
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校園割警案的那個爸爸 |
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4354.25 |
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他失去兒子之後 |
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4356.25 |
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4358.25 |
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他還要擔心 |
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4360.25 |
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殺他孩子的人 |
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4360.25 |
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會不會跑來殺他 |
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4364.25 |
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台南那兩個殉職案的家屬 |
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4364.25 |
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他們一次一次走進法院 |
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4366.25 |
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4368.25 |
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都希望法院能夠給他一個交代 |
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4368.25 |
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4370.25 |
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但是到現在他們都還等不到 |
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4370.25 |
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4372.25 |
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還要一次一次去那邊的痛苦 |
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4372.25 |
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4374.25 |
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所以我真的希望一件事情 |
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4374.25 |
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對於這些被害人的 |
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家屬或被害人 |
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4380.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
我希望強調這三件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4380.25 |
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4382.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
安全被聽見被尊重 |
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4382.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4384.25 |
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在他們訴訟參與上面 |
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4384.25 |
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4386.25 |
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所以被聽見 |
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4387.31 |
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4389.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
我要讓他們在訴訟參與上面 |
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4389.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4391.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
他們有被聽見的權利被保護的身份 |
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4391.31 |
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4393.31 |
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有人支持的過程 |
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4393.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4395.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
還有不必要再次受到傷害 |
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4397.88 |
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4399.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
被害人的傷口 |
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4401.88 |
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永久公開 |
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4401.88 |
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4403.88 |
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我們不要這樣 |
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4403.88 |
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4405.88 |
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我們要的是法院如何看待這個傷口 |
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4405.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4407.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
要永久留下來說理 |
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4407.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4409.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
來告訴大家我的說理是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4411.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4413.43 |
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我會跟民進黨最後跟民進黨報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4414.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4416.24 |
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被害人的訴訟參與 |
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4416.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4418.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
我從當立法委員的第一年開始 |
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4418.24 |
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4420.24 |
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一直在做一步一步做到了 |
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4422.24 |
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但是呢 |
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4424.24 |
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我還是必須要完成最後這一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4424.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4426.24 |
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下一哩路就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4426.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4428.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
讓他們能夠安全有尊嚴的參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4428.82 |
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4430.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
因為 |
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我在當立委之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4432.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4434.33 |
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我心裡的感受就是被害人在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4434.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4436.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
在訴訟中都被遺忘了 |
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4438.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
所以我一直想要強化這一塊 |
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4438.49 |
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4440.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
也請民進黨 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4442.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
也請各位在場的司法人員 |
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4442.49 |
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4444.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
想一想被害人家屬 |
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4444.49 |
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4446.49 |
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他們承受的痛 |
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4448.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
而不是只有被告需要被保護 |
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4450.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
委員所提出來的這四項 |
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4452.49 |
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絕對是我們司法院 |
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4454.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
努力向前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4454.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4456.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
謝謝民進黨謝謝各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4457.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4459.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
好謝謝吳宗憲委員謝謝秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4459.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4463.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
那接下來我們有請陳昭之委員進行巡達 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4469.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4471.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
謝謝主席有請法務部黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4474.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4476.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
好有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4478.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4480.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
好次長早 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4480.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4482.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
今天大概是我第四次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4482.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4484.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
質詢質疑監獄管理員的處境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4484.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4486.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
來做質詢 |
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4486.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4488.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
我的資料越來越豐富 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4488.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
4490.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
我手邊甚至還有我發出的問卷當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
4490.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4493.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
有三百份監獄管理員他們的心聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4493.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4495.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
所以我希望你今天能夠真心 |
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4495.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
4497.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
用心聆聽啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
4497.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4499.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
真心來回答 |
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4499.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
4501.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
請問次長我先請教你 |
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4501.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4503.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
可以因為拒絕加班 |
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4503.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4505.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
而影響考績嗎 |
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4505.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4507.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
您覺得可以這樣做嗎 |
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4507.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4508.61 |
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好謝謝你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
4508.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
4510.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
那台灣的公務員其實很認真很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
4510.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
4512.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
他們多半都會盡力配合 |
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4512.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
4515.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
那機關就不能把同仁的善意 |
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4515.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
4516.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
當作一個隨意嘛 |
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4516.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
4518.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
次長您基本上同意嘛 |
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4518.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4519.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
這樣的觀點 |
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4519.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
4521.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
但是請你不請這個次長 |
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4521.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
4523.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
看一下這個這張圖 |
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4523.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
4525.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
台南監獄管理員告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
4525.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
4527.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
日前這個主管發下一份紙本通知 |
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4527.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4529.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
他要求所有同仁都簽名 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4529.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4531.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
上面寫了什麼 |
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4531.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4532.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
我就寫出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4532.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4533.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
同仁不得拒絕加班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4533.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4536.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
也不得表示說他無法配合加班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4536.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4540.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
否則將列入年度考績的評分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4540.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4541.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
請問次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4541.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4543.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
用考績來威脅同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4543.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4545.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
必須加班合理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4545.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4547.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
各位報告考績的評比 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4547.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4550.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
它要綜合各種整年度的各種表現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4550.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4552.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
不可以就單一的個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4552.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4553.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
沒有啦次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4553.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4554.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
你就說他這樣子控制可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4554.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4556.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
這樣威脅啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4556.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4557.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
他直接寫啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4557.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4559.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
對他具體文字的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4559.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4561.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
個案上這個事實是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4561.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4562.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
委員講的這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4562.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4564.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
個案可能要再查一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4564.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4566.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
這個通知單都有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4566.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4569.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
我怎樣隨時叫我們法案助理給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4569.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4572.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
那如果同仁已經簽了這份這個文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4572.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4573.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
算不算數次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4573.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4577.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
當然你不可以要求同仁不得拒絕加班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4577.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4578.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
因為加班本來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4578.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4579.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
好這份不算數對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4579.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4580.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
不算數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4580.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4582.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
簽了被迫簽了不算數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4582.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4584.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
那你會後去了解一下好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4584.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4585.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4585.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4586.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
那這樣好了會後你去了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4586.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4587.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
那一周內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4587.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4590.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
你可不可以發函全台的這個監獄所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4590.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4591.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
各監獄所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4591.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4593.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
不得用口機來強迫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4595.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4597.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
這樣可以嗎這樣合理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4597.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4599.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
我們提醒各監所注意這一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4599.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4600.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
不得被強迫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4600.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4601.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
一周內你發文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4601.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4602.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
就是說不得用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4602.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4604.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
那你把副本也給我可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4604.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
4605.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
我們來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4606.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4608.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
那次長上上周 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4608.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4609.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
我有問這個司法院秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4609.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4612.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
就是說跟法務部的檢察司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
4612.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4613.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
在法院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4613.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4616.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
有關這個司法院的修正草案中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4616.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4618.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
其實他只是把書記官跟法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4618.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4621.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
在高院跟地院間挪來挪去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4621.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4622.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
那為什麼會這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
4622.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4625.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
就是有一個總員額沒有增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4625.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4628.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
那地檢署的基本狀況也是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4628.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4630.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
那高秘書長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4630.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4631.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
他最後說出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4631.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4633.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
就受限於總員額法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4633.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4636.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
所以總員額法本身是一個魔咒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4637.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4639.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
那現在很多人力的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4639.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4641.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
大概會受到這個影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4641.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4643.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
那上回總員法的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4643.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4644.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
你還記得在什麼時候嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4645.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4647.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
民國108年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4647.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4649.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
那當時為什麼會有這個修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4649.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4651.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
是因為這個司法國事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4651.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4653.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
司改國事會議的結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4653.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
4655.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
所以就提高了這個司法院的員額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
4655.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
4658.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
他是從13900人提高到15000人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
4658.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
4660.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
但是法務部的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
4660.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
4662.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
從員額法存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
4662.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
4663.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
那是民國99年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
4663.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
4666.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
16年來一直維持6900人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
4666.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
4668.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
都沒有修改 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
4668.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
4671.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
所以次長我希望你為基層著想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
4671.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
4673.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
這個監所管理員的介護筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
4674.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
4675.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
非常的高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
4675.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
4677.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
以台北看守所來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
4677.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
4680.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
今年6月收容人有3390人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
4680.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
4683.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
可是他們的介護人力才248人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
4683.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
4685.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
介護筆是1比13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
4686.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
4688.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
大家加班加到快發黃了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
4688.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
4690.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
這個次長總員額法是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
4690.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
4692.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
你也覺得是你的魔咒嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
4692.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
4693.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
4693.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
4695.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
委員這個PPT上所列的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
4695.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
4697.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
這6900人事實上是我們法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
4697.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
4700.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
所屬的檢查機關的總員額的上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
4700.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
4702.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
那委員關心的關監所的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
4702.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
4704.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
他其實不在這個上限的範圍內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
4704.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
4706.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
他是另外在第一類的行政院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
4706.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
4707.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
整個總員額的範圍內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
4707.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
4709.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
我們昨天當然你可能不一定看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
4709.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
4710.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
我們昨天開了一個非常記得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
4710.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
4713.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
有完整的資料這個呈現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
4713.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
4715.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
這個介護筆是一個很大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
4715.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
4716.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
沒有錯沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
4716.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
4718.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
就是因為現在超收嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
4718.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
4721.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
這個6900人擔心檢查機關的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
4721.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
4723.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
那如果要突破這個魔咒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
4723.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
4726.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
那監所管理員到底要縮小員額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
4726.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
4729.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
是不是可以請你給我一個評估過的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
4730.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
4734.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
這部分我們請副署長來答覆一下立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
4734.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
4737.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
大概要這個合理的介護筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
4737.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
4739.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
大概會說增加多少員額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
4739.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
4740.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
你現在初步有概念嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
4741.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
4743.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
我們比較合理的一個包圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
4743.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
4746.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
我們比較合理的數字應該是1比8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
4746.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
4747.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
會比較讓同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
4747.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
4749.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
你的研究報告是1比6到8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
4749.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
4751.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
你現在改成1比8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
4752.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
4754.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
那就是1比8所以你還缺多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
4755.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
4757.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
這個監獄管理員還缺多少員額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
4757.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
4758.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
你有概念嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
4760.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
4762.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
大概應該還要再補3000人左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
4762.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
4764.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
對沒有錯大概3000多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
4764.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
4767.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
如果6比8大概是2500到4500 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
4767.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
4769.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
那我之前再請問次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
4769.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
4772.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
我之前就主張監所管理員的介護今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
4773.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
4775.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
介護今天要提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
4775.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
4776.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
那矯正署署長有告訴過我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
4776.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
4778.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
他來辦公室報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
4778.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
4780.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
監所管理員介護今天要提升他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
4780.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
4783.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
他是預定說7月底其實是上個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
4783.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
4784.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
就要送到法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
4784.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
4787.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
可是我兩天前請教這個矯正署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
4787.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
4790.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
矯正署說上禮拜法務部有提供修改意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
4790.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
4793.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
那正在依修改意見在嚴密中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
4793.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
4795.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
那請問法務部你有什麼意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
4795.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
4796.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
各位沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
4796.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
4797.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
因為這就報告行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
4797.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
4798.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
行政院他有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
4798.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
4801.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
依照補充的資料請本部跟所屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
4801.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
4802.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
矯正署來做補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
4802.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
4805.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
所以本部的人事處跟矯正署在密切 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
4805.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
4807.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
就相關資料再做一些挫傷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
4807.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
4808.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
是補充還是禁止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
4808.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
4809.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
沒有沒有禁止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
4809.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
4811.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
還是有些資料要補充而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
4811.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
4812.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
所以他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
4812.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
4814.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
我們人事處跟矯正署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
4814.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
4815.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
已經在做密切的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
4815.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
4817.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
我全力支持這個監所管理員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
4817.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
4820.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
就是說要提高這個介護今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
4820.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
4823.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
因為我大概目前是有最完整的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
4823.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
4827.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
那請問法務部預計什麼時候送到人走 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
4828.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
4829.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
跟我們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
4829.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
4830.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
給我個時間吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
4830.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
4831.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
4831.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
4832.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
他現在就是說現在是8月嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
4832.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
4833.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
我現在自我所知 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
4833.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
4836.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
他在昨天前天都還有就這個文字的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
4836.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
4837.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
已經到文字的部分要分類 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
4837.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
4839.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
那什麼時候可以送到人走呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
4839.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
4840.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
這個部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
4840.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
4841.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
我看要矯正署大概什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
4841.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
4843.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
他現在基本上他改一個策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
4843.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
4844.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
原來是一類 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
4844.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
4846.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
他現在把分為兩類來做不同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
4846.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
4848.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
這個也可以趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
4848.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
4849.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
對對對這沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
4849.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
4850.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
這個現況存在很久啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
4850.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
4852.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
這個政策上已經定了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
4852.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
4854.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
現在只剩文字的著修啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
4854.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
4856.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
那你還是講不出什麼時候可以送到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
4856.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
4857.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
確定的時間的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
4857.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
4858.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
就是現在是8月吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
4858.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
4859.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
也許我們下個月之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
4859.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
4860.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
也許看一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
4860.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
4861.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
下個月之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
4861.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
4862.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
哇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
4862.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
4863.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
這麼久嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
4863.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
4865.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
現在是8月中下旬了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
4865.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
4867.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
沒有這個問題存在很久啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
4867.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
4868.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
事實上他也送了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
4868.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
4871.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
只是行政院他要我們補資料而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
4871.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
4873.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
好次長很多管理員強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
4873.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
4875.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
他們熱到要瘋掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
4875.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
4877.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
甚至上班上到起屍疹 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
4877.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
4879.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
毛囊炎皮膚病 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
4879.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
4880.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
中暑啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
4880.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
4882.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
連飲水機出來水全部都是熱的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
4882.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
4883.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
管理員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
4883.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
4885.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
他希望能夠改善這個職場環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
4885.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
4887.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
讓他們去面對受刑人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
4887.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
4889.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
而不是說去面對這個高溫啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
4889.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
4890.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
所以我想請教你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
4890.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
4892.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
中央台是不是可能裝冷氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
4892.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
4894.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
有些地方是不是可以裝這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
4894.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
4895.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
移動式的冷氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
4895.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
4898.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
或是考慮發給這個風扇背心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
4899.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
4900.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
有這個可能嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
4900.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
4901.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
4901.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
4903.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
那個電風扇的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
4903.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
4904.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
現在當然都有了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
4904.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
4906.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
那關於這個衣服 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
4906.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
4909.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
比較一些散熱的服裝的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
4909.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
4910.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
我們矯正署事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
4910.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
4913.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
也就這部分提高相關的這個經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
4913.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
4916.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
讓同仁能夠購置一些比較散熱的衣物 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
4916.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
4917.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
你有在研議嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
4917.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
4918.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
還是說你完全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
4918.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
4920.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
你有注重這件事嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
4920.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
4922.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
有有這部分已經提高了經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
4922.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
4924.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
讓同仁去購買了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
4924.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
4926.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
你是用輔助的方式嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
4926.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
4927.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
是吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
4927.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
4929.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
看輔助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
4929.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
4931.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
就是說你們已經有在啟動這件事情了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
4931.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
4932.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
4932.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
4933.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
今年我們的服裝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
4933.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
4934.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
管理內容的服裝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
4934.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
4937.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
已經增加2000元的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
4937.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
4938.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
讓同仁去採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
4938.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
4939.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
每一個人2000元的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
4939.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
4940.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
我要了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
4940.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
4942.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
讓同仁去採購後期的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
4942.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
4943.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
排汗的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
4943.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
4945.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
你初步有這些做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
4945.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
4946.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
4946.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
4948.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
好 那次長請看這份報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
4948.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
4950.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
這是矯正署113年做的研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
4950.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
4953.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
矯正人員職業傷病預防研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
4953.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
4955.88 |
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其中有一個很重要的這個建議就是 |
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裝備的採購應該是要更懂得 |
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或是說更重視第一線執勤人員的需求 |
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尤其是台灣夏季高溫屢創新高 |
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那許多舊的監獄是悶熱難耐 |
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不但受刑人忍不了 |
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受刑人也會忍不了容易生衝突 |
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一生衝突嘛 |
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那這個監護人員穿著不透氣的衣服 |
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還有常護來執勤 |
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其實他們也不比這個受刑人 |
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更輕鬆啦 更辛苦 |
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這還是113年報告 |
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現在是115年 |
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夏天更長 更熱了嘛 |
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那許多管理員甚至很卑微的問我 |
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能不能讓他們自費穿這個冷背心 |
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或是風扇背心 |
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他們已經本來都不奢望這個矯正署 |
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我聽了非常難過 |
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我非常非常的重視這件事 |
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所以希望次長能夠把基層的心聲聽進去 |
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那剛剛是說有開始要處理 |
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但是動作也要快嘛 |
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每天都在面對這樣的一個情況嘛 |
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那次長請你看一下我這張圖 |
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你知道我為什麼放一瓶綠油精 |
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綠油精在這個投影片嗎 |
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因為有郵政員工向我陳情 |
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他們每天在大太陽下 |
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送信快熱爆了 |
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結果郵政公司給他們什麼 |
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超級少的涼水費 |
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甚至這個防熱設備 |
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竟然發給他們綠油精 |
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你可以接受嗎 |
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以前還發過這個薄荷棒 |
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我聽了真的是難以置信 |
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大家來報考公務員 |
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國家考試 國營事業 |
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是因為相信這個國家相信制度 |
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不然就不會來報考 |
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結果我們國家竟然給員工用 |
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綠油精來防熱 |
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那這個放一瓶綠油精 |
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就是要提醒次長 |
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不要像中華郵政那麼淒慘 |
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次長你有聽懂我的意思嗎 |
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了解 完全理解 |
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那我要告訴次長 |
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現在連發給次郵這個綠油精 |
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很糟糕的 |
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我認為很糟糕的中華郵政 |
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他們面對員工提案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
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說要買這個風扇背心 |
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雖然現在採購還沒有完成 |
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可是他們提案 |
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員工的提案已經開始去討論了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
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次長我希望你們要善待基層 |
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不要比爛 |
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我覺得很爛的中華郵政 |
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現在中華就已經開始動了 |
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那你是否能夠研議具體有效的 |
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這個防熱措施跟設備呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
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5093.88 |
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剛才副總長也跟國民報告 |
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剛剛有提到了一點 |
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甚至我們就服裝部 |
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他的預算他已經編列 |
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5097.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
每人兩千塊的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
5099.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
讓他服裝做一些改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
這部分其實沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
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次長連我一向詬病的勞動部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
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他現在都鼓勵企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
5106.88 |
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要買這個熱防護具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
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有給補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
5109.88 |
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那矯正組做了什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
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因為法警已經開放 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
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據我了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
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5113.88 |
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他可以依據個人的這個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
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穿搭這個長短袖 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
5116.88 |
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那炎熱天氣下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
5118.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
同仁們想要自費購買 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
5118.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
5120.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
外界盛行的空冷服 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
5121.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
水冷服上班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
5123.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
讓自己上班舒服一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
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但是過去卻被 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
5125.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
坐在辦公室吹冷氣的長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
5128.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
一句話說不符合規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
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就把它否決 |
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所以你現在開始要重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
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5133.88 |
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正視這個問題了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
5134.47 |
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5136.47 |
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所以你現在的研擬的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
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5137.47 |
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除了補助兩千 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
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5138.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
然後讓他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
5140.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
對 剛剛我們報告好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
5140.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
5141.47 |
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能夠自己選擇嗎 |
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5142.47 |
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還是有什麼規範 |
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5143.47 |
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選擇不 法務所主 |
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5144.47 |
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甚至像我們檢察機關 |
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5145.47 |
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我們的法警 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
5146.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
我們甚至可以讓同一半 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
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可行的部分 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
5148.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
他甚至他們可以自己決定 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
5149.47 |
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在經費範圍裡面 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
5153.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
決定怎樣的材質的這個服裝 |
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5154.47 |
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他們就可以接受了 |
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5154.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
5155.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
我們甚至在檢察機關的法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
5155.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
5156.47 |
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可以做到這種程度 |
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5156.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
5157.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
所以你可以想像嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
5157.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5159.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
基層他們也賺不了多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
5159.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5161.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
他們竟然就不希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
5161.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5162.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
可以讓我自費來購買嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5162.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5163.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
連這種心聲都出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
5163.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
5164.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5164.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5166.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
那現在法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5166.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5168.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
我想請你具體回顧幾件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
5168.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
5169.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
第一個是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
5169.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5171.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
您在19年剛剛我有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5171.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5173.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
就是你也同意嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5173.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5175.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
就是發函通知全台各監所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5175.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5178.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
不得用烤雞強迫同仁加班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5178.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5180.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
還是堂堂皇皇做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5180.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5181.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
一直叫他簽名 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5183.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5185.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
那他簽的不算數吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5185.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5186.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
那個要作廢吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5186.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
5187.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
誰敢不簽呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5187.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5188.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
簽了現在怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5189.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5190.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
我剛剛跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5190.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5192.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
烤雞他不是從當下簽不簽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5192.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5193.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
來做評斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5193.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5195.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
他是整年度的機構表現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5195.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5196.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
你可以再一週內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5196.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5197.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
這個很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
5197.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
5198.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
這沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
5198.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5200.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
我們可以要求所屬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
5200.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5201.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
假設首長不可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5201.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5202.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
那你就發函通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5202.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5203.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
我要一份副本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5203.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5204.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
這個做得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5204.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5205.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
隨時就可以回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5205.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5207.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
你回去就可以開始發函了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
5207.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
5209.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
不得用烤雞強迫同仁加班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
5209.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5210.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
已經簽了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5210.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5211.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
那個也不作數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
5211.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5212.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5212.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5213.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
你兩週內是不是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5213.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5214.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
送出危險津貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5214.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5216.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
提升這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5216.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5217.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
給人種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5217.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5218.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
你剛剛跟我說到9月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
5218.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
5220.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
現在已經8月中下去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
5220.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
5222.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
兩個禮拜後就是下個月了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
5222.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
5223.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
好那你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
5223.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
5226.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
那兩個禮拜你不要再拖了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
5226.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
5227.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
那不是拖 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
5227.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
5228.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
那個涉及到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
5228.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
5229.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
我們這次訂制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
5229.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
5230.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
不是之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
5230.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
5231.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
本來你們是承諾是7月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
5231.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
5232.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
就要交出去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
5232.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
5234.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
對 但有一些意見要出去交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
5234.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
5235.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
那不是不送 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
5235.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
5236.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
那是補資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
5236.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
5237.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
下個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
5237.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
5239.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
我要請防護再正式評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
5239.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
5240.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
合理的介護人力比 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
5240.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
5244.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
你剛剛說提到這個1比8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
5244.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
5245.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
但是你要有一些基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
5245.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
5247.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
你去看看其他國家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
5247.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
5249.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
像韓國可能1比2到3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
5249.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5250.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
美國是1比4到5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5250.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5253.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
日本也是1比3左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5253.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5255.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
然後你知道晚上這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5255.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5257.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
你又超收 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5257.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5258.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
你現在最重要是超收 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5258.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5259.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
他們這個加10 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
5259.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
5262.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
加上這個晚上可能就1比1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5262.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5264.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
這個人力都跑出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5264.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5266.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
這個都是你可以去看到數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5266.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5267.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
我都看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5267.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5269.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
你更可以看到這個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5269.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5270.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5270.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5271.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
你要加快好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5271.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5272.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5272.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5273.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
你說的9月底之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5273.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5275.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
那你可以提 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5276.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5277.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
快一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5277.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
5279.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
因為你之前承諾7月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5279.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5280.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
要提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5280.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5281.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
然後請具體研擬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5281.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5284.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
這個監索防熱措施跟增設設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5284.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5286.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
這一項非常非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5286.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5288.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
這個是人道的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5288.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
5289.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
非常非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5289.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5291.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
請次長一定要做這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5291.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
5293.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
就具體的來研議這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5293.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5294.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
那我看時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5294.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5296.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
我來看看再追蹤這個進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5296.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5297.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5297.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5298.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5298.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5300.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
我今天提的四項建議案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5300.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5303.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
也請你按照我期待的時程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5303.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5304.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
給我資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5304.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5305.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
除了第二件之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5305.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5306.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
是不是下個月評估住 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5306.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5307.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
送到行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5307.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5308.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
最慢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5308.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5309.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
那是最慢下個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5309.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5310.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5310.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5311.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
謝謝次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5311.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5312.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5314.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5315.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5315.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5316.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
謝謝陳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5319.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5320.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5320.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5321.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
那接下來我們有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5321.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5322.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
林慶琦委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5328.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5329.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5329.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5330.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5330.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5331.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
我們翁昭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5331.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5334.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
我先請我們司法院高秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5334.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5335.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5335.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5336.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
請高秘書長 |
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委員好 |
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高秘書長你好 |
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本席今天就 |
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第一個先就有關司法跟行政機關 |
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的一個資料斷鏈的這個問題 |
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會不會影響這個司法相關的這個正義 |
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來跟您就教 |
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那也就是說 |
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在這個行政機關 |
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相互橫向聯繫的一個問題 |
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那麼從一個案例 |
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我們來談那個 |
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高等法院 |
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最近審理了一起越南移工 |
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過世致死的案件 |
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那麼因為在6月開庭的時候 |
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兩名被告都沒有到庭 |
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結果後來查詢才發現 |
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兩個人早已經被移民署驅逐出境 |
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那雖然有發佈這個通緝 |
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但是人都已經離境了 |
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那後續刑事的審判要怎麼進行 |
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那被害人家屬又如何來追究相關的這個責任 |
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就變得有點困難 |
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那所以本席的理解 |
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那一審判決無罪 |
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但是如果沒有申請限制出境 |
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法院也認為沒有羈押或禁管的必要 |
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那麼不能因為案件 |
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還沒有定讞 |
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那麼無限期限制外國人離境 |
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那這會涉及無罪推定跟基本的人權 |
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但是這個案件暴露出 |
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這個法院如果知道案件還在進行 |
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就移民署可能掌握當事人已經預期拘留 |
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那依法就可以驅逐出境 |
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結果兩套制度變成在各自依法行政之下 |
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結果資訊沒有過通 |
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就產生了被告離開了臺灣 |
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所以請教一下秘書長 |
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那麼第一個 |
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那麼目前法院跟移民署之間 |
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對於涉案外國人的刑事案件進度 |
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那是不是還在上訴 |
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有沒有需要到庭 |
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那整體來講 |
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沒有制度化的一個通報跟查詢的機制 |
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那第二個部分是 |
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那要不要建立一個分級的處理制度 |
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例如如果涉及重大犯罪 |
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那被害人死亡或重傷 |
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那仍有高度的到庭必要的時候 |
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那麼明刑事求償尚未完成的一個案件 |
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行政機關決定強制驅逐之前 |
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是不是應該要向法院或檢查機關 |
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來查詢案件的狀態 |
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然後再決定是不是要暫緩執行 |
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那這個部分本席認為 |
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司法院跟移民署法務部 |
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應該建立一些比較確實的資訊互通平台 |
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然後及時聯繫 |
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那不曉得您對剛才本席這邊提出來一個看法 |
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謝謝委員 |
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其實從這個案件裡面 |
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我們現在已經和法務部還有移民署 |
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這個案件的發生真的是有點斷接 |
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那對於這個怎麼 |
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如委員所說的 |
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要整個從頭到尾要完全聯繫在一起 |
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我們和法務部移民署 |
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已經大家互相講清楚說明白 |
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什麼時候應該要通報 |
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譬如說那個這個警察官起訴 |
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送來的資料裡面 |
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讓大家寫清楚 |
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法官對於這個案是不是要繼續這個進管 |
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或怎麼樣也要做清楚 |
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然後當然最重要 |
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移民署跟這個法院之間 |
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你有什麼動作 |
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大家也要彼此要聯繫清楚 |
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也就如同委員所說的這個通報機制 |
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因為這個案件 |
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讓我們做了很多的改善 |
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好謝謝秘書長 |
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所以其實那個資訊斷鏈的這個狀況 |
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先前就是因為這個案子 |
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然後大家就發現 |
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所以你們現在也在及時一個補救當中 |
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今天談的就是說 |
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其實是因為這個移民案件 |
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但是法院跟行政機關很像聯繫 |
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也常存在斷點 |
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有沒有可能其他的領域會不會發生 |
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本席這邊提醒幾個 |
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你們是不是要做一個檢視 |
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而像案件也涉及了社教 |
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社政還有教育警政跟法院 |
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那麼獨家的案件可能會涉及警政 |
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檢查法院跟這個監理機關 |
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那麼法院如果做處分之後呢 |
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相關的行政機關有沒有及時收到資訊 |
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或者是行政機關要採取重大措施之前 |
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有沒有確認整個司法的程序狀態 |
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那麼這個部分 |
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是不是各機關如果依照自己的法規來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
5594.53 |
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5597.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
結果最後就會變成共同製造了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
5597.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
5600.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
這個制度性漏洞的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
5600.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
5604.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
所以本席在這邊要求一下就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
5604.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
5609.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
這個法院跟移民警政社政教育監理等行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
5609.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
5610.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
那哪一些類型 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
5610.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
5614.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
針對哪一些類型的案件需要及時做資訊的交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
5614.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
5618.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
那哪一些程序可能需要事前的做一個查詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
5618.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
5622.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
那哪些情況要建立跨機關的一個通報機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
5622.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
5625.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
這個是不是可以請這個司法院這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
5625.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
5628.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
來做一下這個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
5628.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
5629.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
檢視啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
5629.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
5630.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
5630.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
5633.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
其實相關判決刑事判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
5633.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
5636.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
如果行政機關他們有需要的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
5636.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
5639.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
其實早期就現在以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
5639.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
5643.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
書記官都是要把判決書寄給相關機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
5643.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
5644.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
這個是判決以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
5644.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
5645.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
那剛剛委員所說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
5645.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
5647.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
在審判程序中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
5647.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
5651.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
其實我們現在各機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
5651.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
5656.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
尤其現在是一個資訊數位化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
5656.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
5660.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
其實很多數位資訊的聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
5660.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
5661.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
我們跟警政 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
5661.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
5662.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
我們跟衛福 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
5662.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
5664.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
尤其是我們少家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
5664.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
5667.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
尤其在衛福經費法這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
5667.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
5671.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
跟衛福這部分所設立的這個數位系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
5671.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
5672.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
還有我們也期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
5672.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
5676.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
跟法務部也設立一個這個數位平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
5676.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
5679.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
其實從最源頭到審判 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
5679.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
5681.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
甚至到將來檢察官的執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
5681.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
5683.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
都能夠做數位化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
5683.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
5685.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
那大家資料在上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
5685.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
5689.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
除非必須要隱蔽或有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
5689.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
5691.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
不能夠有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
5691.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
5693.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
會各資或某些資訊不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
5693.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
5698.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
其實應該能夠在平台上大家共同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
5698.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
5701.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
這個是我們現在共同在努力的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
5701.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
5705.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
因為很多譬如說我們判決寄出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
5705.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
5707.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
收受的機關它也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
5708 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
5709 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
放在平台上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
5709 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
5711 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
它可能是一個文書的存放 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
5711 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
5714 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
其實這個資訊就變成會不見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
5714 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
5715 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
5715 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
5717 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
我想可能在你們建構這個平台的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
5717 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
5720 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
那每一個單位都要針對這個平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
5720 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
5721 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
能夠真的去獲取 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
5721 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
5722 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
對互相借接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
5722 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
5725 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
對他們來講是實際能夠執行的這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
5725 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
5728 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
因為其實各機關應該都有平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
5728 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
5733 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
應該都有他們所需要的資料的存檔或建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
5733 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
5735 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
那哪些資料可以共享 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
5735 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
5736 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
能夠借接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
5736 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
5738 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
是我們現在努力的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
5738 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
5742 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
像我們現在跟衛福部關於在這個資料的借接上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
5742 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
5744 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
為了經費法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
5744 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
5746 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
借接的就很順利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
5746 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
5749 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
所以本期就提醒你們可以有些已經在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
5749 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
5750 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
那麼現在有些在討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
5750 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
5752 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
討論的時候是不是最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
5752 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
5756 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
在這個平台的一個互通跟順暢性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
5756 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
5758 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
或者是每一個平台它要怎麼用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
5758 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
5760 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
那大家彼此能夠就這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
5760 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
5764 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
這些案件能夠真正的達到它執行的一個效能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
5764 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
5765 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
這個是重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
5765 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
5768 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
所以最重要就是說整個司法的正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
5768 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
5772 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
其實確保整個司法的這個程序不會因為行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
5772 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
5774 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
然後彼此資訊斷鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
5774 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
5776 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
失去了一些作用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
5776 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
5778 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
所以這個部分是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
5778 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
5783 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
您是不是可以在後續本席的這個研究室 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
5783 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
5785 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
有一個相關資訊的一個平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
5785 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
5789 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
那你們一些作業流程跟必要的法治經濟報告可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
5789 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
5790 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
其實跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
5790 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
5793 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
因為我們是最後端的審判機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
5793 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
5795 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
前面的偵查機關 警政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
5795 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
5797 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
如果大家資料能夠共同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
5797 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
5799 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
除非機密以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
5799 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
5802 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
能夠共同其實對於剛剛委員所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
5802 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
5804 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
我們現在發生的這種擔憂現象 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
5804 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
5806 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
其實就可以沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
5806 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
5808 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
所以我們是也非常期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
5808 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
5810 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
法務部能夠跟我們互相共同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
5810 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
5812 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
其實一個串流過來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
5812 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
5816 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
大家輕鬆然後資訊及時接獲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
5816 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
5819 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
這我們都是共同在努力的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
5820 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
5823 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
這可能看起來後續你們要跟法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
5823 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
5825 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
再來做更緊密的一個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
5825 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
5826 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
5826 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
5828 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
那如果相關的這個結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
5828 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
5831 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
是不是把剛才本席所講的有關資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
5831 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
5832 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
還有作業流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
5832 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
5834 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
那你們要精進的一個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
5834 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
5837 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
先給本席一個簡要的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
5837 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
5839 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
那如果真正有一些實際的進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
5839 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
5841 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
那你們後續再補上好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
5841 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
5842 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
5842 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
5843 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
5843 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
5847 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
那接下來還是跟你們有關的本席這邊提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
5847 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
5848 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
不曉得你們有沒有議會到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
5848 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
5852 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
等整個AI的訴狀大量進入法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
5852.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
5855.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
那我想也是造成一些風險控管的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
5855.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
5859.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
應該要來處理內外雙軌的這個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
5859.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
5862.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
也就是說本席剛才談的資訊斷鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
5862.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
5865.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
會讓訴訟的程序可能會發生漏洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
5865.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
5869.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
但是另外一個快速正在發生的資訊風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
5869.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
5872.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
也就是當生成是AI訴狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
5872.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
5873.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
開始湧入法院 |
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然後錯誤跟虛構 |
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或者是無法追溯來源的這個法律資訊 |
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如果沒有好好的控管 |
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那整個司法的負擔跟風險會很大 |
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那麼這個案例從最近 |
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這個桃園地院有法官 |
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抱歉 |
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在判決當中直接提醒當事人說 |
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你要找一個人類律師啊 |
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那我想我們在許多的系統上 |
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都有那個這個系統跟你確認你是否是人類 |
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可是現在看起來連法院的訴狀 |
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都會產生這樣一個問題 |
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所以到底你的律師是不是人類 |
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那他會導致剛才本席所講的一些這個資訊啊 |
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還有這個來資訊來源相關的這個議題 |
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那也就是說實際上已經發生了 |
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那個氾濫的AI生成訴狀 |
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那雖然這個AI的生成對人有很大的這個協助 |
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但是呢可能會發生 |
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假設你的這個進去的資訊 |
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不是那麼精確 |
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甚至AI可能也會自己做一些想像 |
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結果他可能簡單的話呢 |
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可能會發生前後矛盾 |
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抓不到重點 |
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但是呢 |
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更深一層他可能引用根本不存在的法條 |
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判例跟實務見解 |
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那在這個資訊爆炸的時候 |
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的時代 |
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我想每個人都有可能會產生誤判 |
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所以雖然AI降低了法律這個的文書的門檻 |
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但是可以協助整理資料 |
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很多的來製作一些時間軸 |
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很多的協助 |
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但是呢很關鍵的是 |
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那如果最後這樣直接送入了法院 |
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那也迫使法官跟法官助理還有書記官 |
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要花很多時間去判別 |
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然後查證 |
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那有的時候 |
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可能大家還不知道 |
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究竟這個部分有沒有問題 |
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那更遑論查證了 |
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所以 |
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那麼 |
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我們知道司法院今年已經有 |
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含 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
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5997.37 |
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含班所屬機關使用人工智慧的一個系統的指引 |
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那這是對法院內部人員 |
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已經有資安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
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各自 |
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以及人工負荷的要求 |
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但是剛才那個案例看起來是 |
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台灣的司法 |
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對於律師還有一般民眾 |
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外部使用的明確AI規範 |
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目前可能還有一些 |
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需要再調整改進的 |
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所以就請教 |
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那你們 |
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司法院目前有沒有掌握 |
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AI生成訴狀 |
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進入法院的一個實際狀況 |
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那有沒有評估對這一類 |
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書狀的一個審理的時間 |
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還有那個查證的負擔 |
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跟書記官行政工作的影響 |
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那第二個部分是 |
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那麼你們司法院有沒有評估 |
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法院內部人員跟外部訴訟參與 |
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者雙軌的這個AI的規範 |
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那麼目前律師跟一般民眾 |
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利用AI製作書狀 |
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那基本上 |
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還蠻缺乏這個明確的 |
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接入義務 |
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那麼本席認為如果 |
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書狀的重要內容 |
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那法律研究或 |
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引用的資料是AI生成 |
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那可以基本的查證跟 |
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接入的這個責任 |
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所以最後呢是 |
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如果明知道這個重大的 |
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這個過失沒有查證 |
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結果還向法院提 |
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這個提交了這個AI |
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虛構的這個法律依據或裁判 |
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那麼司法院是不是 |
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應該要跟法務部 |
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還有律師公會 |
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大家來研議一下 |
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裁罰法的一些規範 |
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以上這三點是不是請 |
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您這邊做個回應 |
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6084.37 |
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非常非常贊同委員的意見 |
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這個真的是我們現在 |
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應該是所有 |
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各界都會面對的 |
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那我先跟委員報告 |
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律師的管理是法務部 |
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對這部分積極管理 |
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然後可以跟委員報告 |
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其實我們都知道 |
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在這個AI的模型裡面 |
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如果你用Notebook LM |
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它絕對確認的是 |
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6108.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
一個資料的範圍是固定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6108.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6110.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
那你用別的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6110.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6112.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
別的東西可能會有幻覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6112.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6114.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
所以其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6114.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6116.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
我也看到我們的質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6116.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6118.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6118.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6120.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
使用AI |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6120.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6122.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
是不能夠用一般商用型的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6123.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6127.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
除非我們將來資料是落地的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6127.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6129.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
這是很絕對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6129.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6131.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
因為商用型它資料是出去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6131.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6134.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
因為裡面有太多各自機敏資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6134.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6136.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
所以我們的質疑裡面寫得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6136.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6138.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
萬一律師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6138.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6140.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
他用AI做成書狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6140.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6142.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
如同委員說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6142.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6143.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
我們都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6143.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6145.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
常常會夾雜一些他的幻覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6145.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6147.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
他幻覺的法條什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6148.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6150.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
其實這就是法官的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6150.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6152.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
當你要用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6152.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6154.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
看律師的書狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6154.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6156.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
其實就是法官承擔的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6156.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6158.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
書狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6158.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6160.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
你就要去分辨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6160.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6161.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
一定要去分辨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6161.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6163.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
其實這個分辨並不難 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6163.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6166.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
將來如果我們沒有資料落地型的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6166.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6168.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
AI工具來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6168.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6170.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
其實馬上就可以分辨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6170.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6172.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
這個我們即將要做的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6172.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6174.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
那當然對於律師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6174.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6176.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
你這個書狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6176.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6178.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
你要負什麼責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6178.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6180.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
我希望法務部能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6180.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6182.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
做嚴格的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6182.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6184.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
因為這個在世界各國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6184.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6186.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
美國都一直在發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6186.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6189.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
其實這個是妨礙司法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6189.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6191.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6191.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6193.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
當然像如同這件案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6193.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6197.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
法官對於其實法官最重大的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6197.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6200.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
就是在於律師提出來的書狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6200.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6205.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
絕對是去查證他所引的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6206.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6208.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
一定要因為你要引他的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6208.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6210.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
你一定要查證他所引的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6210.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6212.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
這就是我的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6212.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6214.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
未來AI可不可以生成到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6214.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6217.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
他也可以把查證的源頭生成出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6217.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6219.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
或是另外一個層次的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6219.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6221.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
其實這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6221.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6223.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
我相信AI的功能真的很強 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6223.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6225.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
只是我們怎麼用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6225.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6227.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
可是前提是我們要注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6227.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6229.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
他幻覺的行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6229.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6231.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
你一定要盡到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6229.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6231.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
查證的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6231.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6233.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
這個是我相信是所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6233.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6235.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
使用AI模型都要面對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6236.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6239.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
我想這個一個這是全面性的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6239.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6241.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
這個AI當然不是問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6241.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6243.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
但是最重要的是AI沒有規範是問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6243.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6245.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
可是AI生成的速度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6245.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6248.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
跟我們在追的速度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6248.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6250.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
我想這個目前很難講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6250.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6253.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
所以當事人如果大量使用AI |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6253.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6255.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
錯誤的AI的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6255.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6257.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
法院查證的成本會變高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6257.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6259.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
最重要的是大家最後的腦力能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6259.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6261.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
可不可以來因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6261.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6263.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
我想也不是到最後的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6263.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6265.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
所謂處罰的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
6265.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6268.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
前面大家有沒有能耐跟速度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6268.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6270.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
來跟AI相比 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6270.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6272.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
我覺得這是一個基本的可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6272.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6274.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
你們在做本席建議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6274.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6276.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
這樣一個方向的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6276.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6278.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
也要考慮到我們前面那個層次的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6278.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6280.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6280.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6282.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
因為要使用AI |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6282.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6284.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
就如同委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6284.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6287.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
這就是我們面對的要解決的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6287.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6289.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
謝謝委員提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6289.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6291.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
謝謝秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6291.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6293.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
好那麼我想這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6293.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6295.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
接下來我請那個法務部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6295.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6297.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
那我想剛才應該法務部也大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6297.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6299.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
略聽到這個相關的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6299.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6301.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6301.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6303.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
法務部、司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6303.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6305.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
我們想都有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6305.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6308.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
重疊到我們要處理跟因應的一個狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6308.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6311.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
也請你們做一個考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6311.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6313.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
做個研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6313.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6315.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
然後去因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6315.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6317.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
那最後這個問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6317.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6319.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
也是跟您請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
6319.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6321.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6321.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6323.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
跨部會資料整合的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6323.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
6325.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
那麼也是以一起案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
6325.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
6327.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
我們來做個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
6327.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
6329.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
就是說橋頭地檢署偵辦了一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6329.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6331.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
現役軍人的這個九家案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
6331.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
6333.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
那麼被告原本緩起訴處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
6333.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
6335.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
結果呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
6335.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
6337.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
因為沒有依照期限來繳納五萬塊的處分金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
6337.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
6339.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
那麼檢方就撤銷他的起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6339.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6341.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
撤銷緩起訴並起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
6341.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
6343.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
結果案件到了法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
6343.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
6345.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
卻因為檢方把 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
6345.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
6347.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
撤銷緩起訴的這個處分書 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
6347.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
6349.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
證書寄到了被告原本的戶籍地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
6349.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
6351.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
居住地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
6351.47 |
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沒有按照刑事訴訟法第六十二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
6353.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
6359.47 |
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准用民事訴訟法第一百二十九條的這個規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
6359.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
6361.47 |
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透過服役的軍事機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
6361.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
6363.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
送達 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
6363.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
6365.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
那麼法院就認定送達程序不合法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
6365.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
6367.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
撤銷了起訴處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
6367.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
6369.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
尚未明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
6369.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
6371.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
最後裁定了這個公訴不受理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
6371.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
6373.47 |
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那麼現在這個被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
6373.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
6375.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
在緩起訴的期間入伍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
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6377.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
而且一起到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
6377.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
6379.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
二零二九年也不是臨時或短暫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
6379.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
6381.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
一個身份變動所以在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
6381.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
6383.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
被告在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
6383.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
6385.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
偵查緩起訴或 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
6385.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
6387.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
執行期間發生身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
6387.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
6389.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
變更的時候就像剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
6389.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
6391.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
我們所講的那已經入伍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
6391.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
6393.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
成為現役軍人那麼有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
6393.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
6395.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
辦法主動來及時取得相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
6395.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
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資訊那接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
6397.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
6399.47 |
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是如果目前的檢察機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
6399.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
6401.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
跟國防部內政 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
6401.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
6403.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
護政等行政機關已經有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
6403.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
6405.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
資料的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
6405.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
6407.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
介面或查詢的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
6407.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
6409.47 |
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那是不是在實際的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
6409.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
6411.47 |
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執行上有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
6411.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
6413.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
6415.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
缺漏所以沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
6415.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
6417.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
辦法直接的發揮一些作用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
6417.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
6419.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
是不是系統沒有更新或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
6419.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
6421.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
某一些技術性的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
6421.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
6423.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
那這件事本來應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
6423.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
6425.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
這個case應該是可以在事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
6425.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
6427.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
確認送達程序的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
6427.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
6429.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
一個瑕疵結果後來導致這樣一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
6429.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
6431.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
結果不曉得您對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
6431.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
6433.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
這個案件或者是這整體的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
6435.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
怎麼一個看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
6437.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
報告您報告的確這個案子因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
6437.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
6439.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
這個被告的身份他是已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
6439.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
6441.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
在送達的時候他已經是現役軍人了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
6441.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
6443.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
所以按照刑事處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
6443.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
6445.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
用民宿的規定他的確是應該向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
6445.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
6447.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
他的所該管的軍事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
6447.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
6449.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
機關或是長官來說送達 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
6449.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
6451.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
但這個案子後來是向他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
6451.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
6453.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
這個被告的住所跟居所地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
6453.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
6455.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
做一個補充送達或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
6455.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
6457.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
相關留置送達送達本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
6457.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
6459.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
的確是不合法所以法院他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
6459.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
6461.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
在下一個不受理判決的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
6461.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
6463.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
他是沒有錯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
6463.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
6465.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
因為被撤交緩起訴處分這個還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
6465.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
6467.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
6467.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
6469.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
但是跟委員報告他畢竟是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
6469.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
6471.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
法院的一個刑事判決就甲官來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
6471.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
6473.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
6473.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
6475.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
刑事判決回來之後甲官還是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
6475.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
6477.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
重新偵查之後再行做相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
6477.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
6479.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
起訴與否的決定所以這不影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
6479.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
6481.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
被告在實體上的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
6481.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
6483.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
但程序上的確是他有瑕疵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
6483.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
6485.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
這第一點第二點委員所 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
6485.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
6487.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
提到的就是這個送達的部分是不是要跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
6487.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
6489.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
居士機關有相互的聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
6489.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
6491.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
事實上我們跟居士機關之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
6491.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
6493.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
他有一個聯繫的要點在彼此相互的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
6493.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
6495.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
協定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
6495.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
6497.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
但是前提是甲官他必須要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
6497.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
6499.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
這個人目前他是現役軍人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
6499.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
6501.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
所以在我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
6501.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
6503.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
的辦案系統裡面事實上我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
6503.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
6505.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
資訊借接的時候事實上甲官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
6505.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
6507.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
他有個系統他理論上是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
6507.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
6509.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
可以查知這個被告目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
6509.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
6511.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
是否在服役當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
6511.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
6513.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
理論上是這樣但前提是甲官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
6513.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
6515.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
他有沒有去查所以這 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
6515.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
6517.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
這涉及到個案甲官他在一些被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
6517.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
6519.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
起訴的時候他有沒有敏感度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
6519.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
6521.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
就是說這個被告在這個年稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
6521.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
6523.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
他有可能是在服役當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
6523.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
6525.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
這就是這個敏感度的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
6525.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
6527.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
對對對 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
6529.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
所以這是甲官的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
6529.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
6531.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
當甲官的一個基本的認知 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
6533.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
我們也希望在各種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
6533.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
6535.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
場合提醒甲官在這個年紀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
6535.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
6537.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
有可能入役的這個年齡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
6537.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
6539.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
你就要去上他的系統去查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
6539.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
6541.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
他目前是不是在服役當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
6541.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
6543.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
如果沒有查其實就會導致這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
6543.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
6545.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
個案裡面後面送達不合法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
6545.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
6547.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
撤下還起訴不法甚至起訴不合法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
6548.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
6550.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
所以從這個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
6550.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
6552.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
有沒有一些通案的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
6552.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
6554.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
6554.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
6556.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
就是說全面的盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
6556.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
6558.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
在國防跟互證機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
6558.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
6560.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
之間的嫁接 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
6560.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
6562.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
再去做一下確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
6562.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
6564.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
那如果看系統如果有漏接 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
6564.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
6566.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
那麼就可能及時補強 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
6566.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
6568.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
那系統如果已經完備了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
6568.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
6570.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
那就檢討一下整個標準作業流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
6570.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
6572.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
還有人員的一個訓練 |
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那特別是針對現役的軍人 |
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那受監的受刑人或送龍人 |
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等等特殊這個送達 |
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規定的一個身分 |
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我想是不是也藉這個案子 |
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可以再做一些檢視 |
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基本上我們就從個案來看看 |
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整體通案需要再做一些 |
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檢討的部分 |
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那是不是本席這邊就提供你這個個案 |
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然後做制度性的一個檢討的 |
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一個案例 |
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法律沒有問題 |
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6600.93 |
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工具也沒有問題 |
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6600.93 |
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6602.93 |
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檢察官的專業也沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
6602.93 |
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6604.93 |
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那現在就是他的敏感度的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
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6606.93 |
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那在個案終結之前要更敏感的去查究 |
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6608.93 |
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我剛才所跟過一報告 |
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6610.93 |
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有可能他是這個人 |
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提供一下相關的資訊 |
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再提醒一下 |
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6616.93 |
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那個個別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
6618.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
提醒一下檢察官 |
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6618.93 |
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6620.93 |
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對我會在我們檢察長會議的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
6620.93 |
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6622.93 |
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跟檢察長宣達這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
6648.73 |
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6650.73 |
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好 我們下一位翁曉玲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
6650.73 |
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6652.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
翁昭偉 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
6653.91 |
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6655.91 |
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好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
6655.91 |
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6657.91 |
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這邊首先先有請高秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
6663.19 |
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6665.19 |
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好 秘書長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
6665.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
6667.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
那麼這次刑事訴訟法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
6667.19 |
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6669.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
修正的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
6669.19 |
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6671.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
那本席大概也提了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
6673.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
三個不同的案子 |
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6675.19 |
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但是我想 |
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6677.19 |
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這個就簡化 |
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6679.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
刑事訴訟程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
6679.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
6681.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
簡化裁判書製作的這個部分的話 |
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應該是 |
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6685.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
秘書長這邊你們應該會支持我的法案 |
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好 那麼 |
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6689.19 |
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但是呢在有關於這個犯罪被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
訴訟權益保障的部分 |
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6693.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
那我因為本席也有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
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6695.19 |
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就是你對於我所提出的 |
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6697.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
有關於刑事訴訟法第310條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
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6699.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
條文修正草案裡面一些內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
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6701.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
有 |
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6703.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
有表示不同的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
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6705.19 |
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那剛剛我中線委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
6705.19 |
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6707.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
其實也有幫我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
6709.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
這個法案也做了一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
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6711.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
說明 那麼也認為說 |
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6713.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
司法院好像似乎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
6713.19 |
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6715.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
擔心的太多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
6717.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
那麼因為在我的這個法案裡面 |
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6719.19 |
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我基本上是要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
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6721.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
就是有罪判決的理由當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
6721.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
6723.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
應該要記載訴訟參議人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
6723.19 |
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6725.19 |
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以及他的代理人就證據 |
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6727.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
的證明力以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
6727.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
6729.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
科行範圍所表示的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
6729.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
6731.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
那麼為什麼要提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
6731.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
6733.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
這樣的一個修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
6733.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
6735.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
也是我們希望法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
6735.19 |
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6737.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
可以真正的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
6738.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
6742.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
聽盡犯罪被害人的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
6742.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
6744.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
而且不僅是聽盡了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
6744.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
6746.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
他還要真的要有所表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
6746.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
6750.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
否則我們很常常會看到的就是 |
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6750.12 |
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6752.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
就算是現在的刑刑法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
6752.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
6754.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
賦予給被害人有訴訟參與權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
6754.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
6756.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
那麼也他們也能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
6756.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
6758.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
對於就是證據能力以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
6758.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
6760.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
科行範圍去表示意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
6760.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
6762.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
但是更多的狀況是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
6762.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
6764.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
也許是法官有聽沒有盡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
6764.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
6766.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
有聽沒有盡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
6766.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
6768.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
那麼事實上他到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
6768.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
6770.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
在他的真正的良行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
6770.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
6772.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
的過程當中最後的決定是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
6772.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
6774.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
總是應該要給犯罪被害人一個交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
6774.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
6776.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
所以這就是為什麼我之所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
6776.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
6778.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
提出這個修法的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
6780.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
6782.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
當然司法院這裡的擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
6782.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
6784.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
也不是沒有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
6784.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
6786.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
可是我在想說總是有一個方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
6786.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
6788.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
可以解決吧就像是我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
6788.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
6790.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
很多法院判決書公開的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
6790.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
6792.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
他都會有一些去識別化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
6792.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
6794.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
一個作業的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
6794.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
6796.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
那就這個部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
6796.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
6798.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
是不是可以請秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
6798.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
6800.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
我們一起來看看有沒有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
6800.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
6802.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
在假設這個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
6802.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
6804.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
未來會通過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
6804.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
6806.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
就是你們在做法上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
6806.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
6808.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
有什麼樣可以進一步改善的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
6808.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
6810.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
請表達一下你的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
6810.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
6812.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
真的感謝委員真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
6812.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
6814.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
老實說這就在量刑的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
6814.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
6816.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
其實記載被害人意見跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
6816.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
6818.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
證據證明立的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
6818.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
6820.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
其實他如果是不立被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
6820.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
6822.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
其實在整個論述的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
6822.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
6824.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
他就會出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
6826.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
那重點就是可行範圍的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
6826.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
6828.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
那我們所表示的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
6828.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
6830.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
6830.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
6832.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
我們擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
6832.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
6834.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
如果要讓被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
6834.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
6836.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
所陳述的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
6836.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
6838.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
自治聚聚都要出現的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
6838.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
6840.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
那絕對是有害的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
6840.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
6842.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
那當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
6842.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
6844.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
那個被害人在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
6844.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
6846.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
可行範圍就是他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
6846.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
6848.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
可行影響陳述的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
6848.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
6850.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
很重要的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
6850.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
6852.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
當然在判決書是應該要記載的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
6852.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
6854.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
其實我們表達的意見是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
6854.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
6856.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
6856.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
6858.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
把被害人所講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
6858.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
6860.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
尤其情緒激動那些話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
6860.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
6862.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
都放進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
6862.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
6864.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
這是我們擔憂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
6864.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
6866.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
或許未來在逐條審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
6866.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
6868.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
就法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
6868.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
6870.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
就我們現在修法的文字內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
6870.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
6872.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
也可以再做得更精準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
6872.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
6874.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
因為我們這邊強調當然不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
6874.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
6876.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
做逐字稿 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
6876.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
6878.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
每一個字都要記載下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
6878.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
6880.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
它也可能可以透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
6880.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
6882.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
一個篩選以及與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
6882.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
6884.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
良心有關必要的陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
6884.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
6886.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
用摘要陳述的方式來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
6886.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
6888.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
所以這個是本席希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
6888.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
6890.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
在推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
6890.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
6892.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
訴訟被害人權益保障的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
6892.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
6894.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
我們可以有更進一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
6894.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
6896.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
能夠提升相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
6896.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
6898.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
被害人權益保障的一個做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
6898.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
6900.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
對於這個對當事人來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
6900.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
6902.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
他會覺得說他在法庭上面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
6902.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
6904.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
這些陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
6904.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
6906.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
事實上法官是真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
6906.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
6908.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
有聽進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
6908.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
6910.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
而且同時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
6910.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
6912.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
也能夠依照他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
6912.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
6914.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
不管是贊成或是反對他們的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
6914.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
6916.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
總是可以有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
6916.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
6918.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
讓他們知道說有一個理由嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
6918.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
6920.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
法官的理由到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
6920.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
6922.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
這個才能夠說服 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
6922.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
6924.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
或是讓當事人能夠信服 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
6924.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
6926.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
這個判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
6926.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
6928.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
所以這個部分的話是本席希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
6928.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
6930.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
就是之後再進行逐條審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
6930.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
6932.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
我們跟司法院這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
6932.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
6934.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
可以有更進一步的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
6934.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
6936.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
然後大家可以看看在法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
6936.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
6938.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
文字上面要怎麼樣的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
6938.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
6940.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
我們很希望的就是說能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
6940.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
6942.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
被害人他不是只是一個訴訟的陪襯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
6942.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
6944.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
而是真正的能夠參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
6944.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
6946.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
這個也是我們這次修法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
6946.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
6948.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
我們希望能夠達成的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
6948.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
6950.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
6950.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
6952.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
那接下來就是說當然我的第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
6952.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
6954.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
修法的重點就是希望能夠減輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
6954.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
6956.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
這個書記官的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
6956.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
6958.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
然後讓整個的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
6958.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
6960.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
裁判書的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
6960.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
6962.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
判決的做成當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
6962.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
6964.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
可以減輕法官跟書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
6964.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
6966.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
等等的工作負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
6966.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
6968.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
那我也看到就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
6968.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
6970.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
黃署長其實你現在有提出一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
6970.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
6973.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
就是司法院會成立一個全國電話中心一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
6973.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
6975.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
Code Center |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
6975.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
6977.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
那預計今年12月就會開始成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
6977.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
6979.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
就會開始測試明年1月成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
6979.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
6982.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
那這本席在這裡有幾個問題想請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
6982.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
6984.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
第一個就是你們有沒有已經編的預算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
6984.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
6986.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
對於Code Center的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
6986.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
6988.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
你們在116年度有編進預算了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
6988.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
6990.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
是有編進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
6990.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
6992.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
請大院支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
6992.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
6994.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
已經編進預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
6994.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
6996.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
好因為其實本席也是支持這個Code Center |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
6996.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
6998.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
那當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
6998.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
7000.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
就是如果說他的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
7000.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
7002.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
有成的話他的確是可以減輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
7002.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
7004.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
書記官的工作壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
7004.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
7006.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
但是在這裡還是有幾個問題想請教的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
7006.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7008.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
就是說未來這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7008.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7010.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
接電話第一線的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7010.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7012.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
接電話的人員他會是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7012.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7014.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
司法院編制內的約聘過人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7014.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7016.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
還是他是一個標案就是外包 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7016.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7018.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
給外部的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7018.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7020.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
來做因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7020.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7022.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
這個人員的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7022.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7024.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
他會涉及到就是說他接電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7024.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7026.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
的這個品質而且他是不是真的能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7026.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7028.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
去回覆民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7028.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7030.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
尤其都是訴訟當事人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7030.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7032.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
他們的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7032.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7034.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
譬如說是來打電話進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7034.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7036.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
問說他們的上述期限要怎麼去計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7036.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
7038.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
或是補正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7038.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
7040.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
的正本需要幾份 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7040.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7042.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
等等這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7042.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7044.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
所以司法院有相關的人才培育計畫嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7044.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
7046.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7046.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
7048.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
因為關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7048.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
7050.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
我們不敢講他叫人才培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7050.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
7052.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
而是說你這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7052.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7054.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
這個project到底要怎麼去完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7054.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7056.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
要做如同委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7056.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7058.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
到底誰要進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7058.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7060.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7060.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7062.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
跟委員坦白的講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7062.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7064.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
其實我們不要忽視 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7064.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7066.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
其實世界各國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7066.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7068.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
甚至各公司關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7068.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7070.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
電話中心其實運作的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7070.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
7072.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
非常成熟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7072.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7074.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
再過來重要如委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7074.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7076.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
你這些人要怎麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7076.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7078.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
回覆問題這個是訓練的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7078.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7080.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
問題司法院要負起訓練的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7080.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7082.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
我們沒辦法去招聘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7082.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7084.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
一堆人可是我們可以請人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7084.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7086.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
幫我們招聘一堆人可是這一群 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7086.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7088.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
人絕對是要我們經過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7088.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7090.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
我們司法院訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7090.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7092.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
而且跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7092.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7094.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
我們的司法行政廳現在已經在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7094.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7096.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
通盤檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7096.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7098.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
我們total拿進了五千多個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7098.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7100.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
這個都是要訓練的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7100.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7102.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
所以說這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7102.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7104.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
而且有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7104.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7106.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
數據官他們以為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7106.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7108.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
將來有call center成立了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7108.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
7110.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
是不是再把電話丟給他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7110.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
7112.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
這是我們絕對要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7113.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7115.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
築起一道牆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7115.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7117.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
一定要在這邊能夠達成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7117.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7119.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
謝謝秘書長說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7119.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7121.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
因為我想現在很多人基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7121.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7123.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
都有這種被call center |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7123.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
7125.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
接聽進化的經驗或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7125.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7127.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
透過AI機器人接聽進化的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7127.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7129.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
譬如說是對於信用卡有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7129.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7131.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
我的消費為什麼我感覺好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7131.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7133.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
其中是不是個帳單多了一筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7133.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7135.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
那麼以我自己個人的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7135.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7137.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
或是我的親友的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7137.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
7139.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
有時候打電話進去聽到是機器人接電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7139.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7141.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
或是這個自動的電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7142.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
7144.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
一直按鍵按不同的鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7144.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7145.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
然後轉來轉去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7145.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7146.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
然後最後乾脆算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7146.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7147.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
就把電話掛了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7147.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7150.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
因為大家還是覺得是能夠直接跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7150.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7152.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
真正的服務人員通電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7152.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7154.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
可以迅速的去解決這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7154.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7156.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
那我希望就是未來call center的成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7156.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7160.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
也能夠做到就是儘量不要讓當事人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7160.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7163.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
覺得說我一直不斷的轉接轉接 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7163.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7165.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
然後轉接到最後乾脆放棄了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7165.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7168.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
那這樣的話可能就不會有那個實益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7168.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7170.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
所以這當然是需要你們12月的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7170.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7171.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
做個測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7171.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7173.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
然後甚至可能多一兩個月的測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7173.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7175.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
然後盡量收集民眾的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7175.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7176.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
當事人的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7176.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7180.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
我覺得可以提升call center的效率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7180.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7181.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
可是這個委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7181.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7183.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
如果不要機器人回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7183.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7186.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
要專人回答就是費用的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7187.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7188.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
是啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7188.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7190.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
不過就是最後總還是可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7190.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7191.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
我們一定要訓練到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7191.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7193.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
有部分還是到最後的階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7193.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7196.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
需要專人回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7196.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7199.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
因為不可能那個機器人回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7199.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7201.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
是一個自試的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7201.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7204.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
而法院的問題很多不是自試 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7204.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7205.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
是沒有錯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7205.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7206.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
好 那麼接下來的本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7206.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7209.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
還有再問另外一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7209.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7210.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
剛剛前面的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7210.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7212.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
剛剛林茜琪委員也有問到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7212.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7214.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
這個時事的新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7214.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7217.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
就是講到2023年12月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7217.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7219.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
新竹湖口一間早餐店 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7219.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7220.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
因為發生火災 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7220.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7223.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
所以29歲的消防員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7223.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7225.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
他進入火場搜救 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7225.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7226.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
就不幸殉職 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7226.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7229.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
然後家屬當然就承受天然永隔之痛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7229.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7230.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
那檢放調查之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7230.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7232.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
也認為說其中就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7232.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7234.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
兩名越南籍的移工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7235.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7237.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
涉嫌因為抽煙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7237.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7239.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
在當場引發火災 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7239.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7241.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
所以當時就以過失致死 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7241.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7243.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
公共危險等等這些罪起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7243.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7246.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
那一審法院後來是判這兩名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7246.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7249.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
外籍越南籍移工無罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7249.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7250.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
但是本席要強調的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7250.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7252.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
一審無罪不代表說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7252.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7254.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
二審是無罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7254.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7257.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
所以檢察官對這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7257.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
7258.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
他不服判決提起上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
7258.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
7260.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
那二審這個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
7260.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
7263.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
明明還在二審的審理當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
7263.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
7265.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
可是今年5月20號移民署 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
7265.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
7267.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
竟然就將這兩名被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
7267.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
7270.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
就強制驅逐出境送回越南 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
7270.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
7273.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
等到6月、高月開庭的時候才發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7273.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
7275.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
這兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
7275.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
7278.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
犯罪嫌疑的這兩個被告怎麼就不見了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
7278.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
7280.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
那法院一查才知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
7280.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
7282.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
這個人早就被移民署授出台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
7282.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
7284.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
最後只能發布通緝令 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
7284.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
7287.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
那本席當然這邊要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
7287.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
7289.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
這個秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
7289.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
7291.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
待會可能還要請教法務部黃次長的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
7291.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
7294.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
就是說移民署的說法是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
7294.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
7296.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
因為他們在依法強制驅逐出境之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
7296.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
7298.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
曾經有通知司法機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
7298.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
7301.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
可是因為法院沒有羈押 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
7301.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
7302.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
也沒有限制出境 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
7302.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
7304.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
也沒有通知移民署暫緩執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
7304.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
7306.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
所以才把人送走 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
7306.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
7308.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
那麼如果說這個說法屬實的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
7308.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
7310.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
我們要第一個問司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
7310.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
7312.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
就是為什麼法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
7314.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
7316.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
在收到移屬通知的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
7316.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
7319.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
明明知道這兩名被告的案件還沒有確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
7320.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
7322.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
也知道二審就要開庭了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
7322.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
7325.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
可是卻沒有採取任何的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
7325.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
7327.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
這中間到底是發生什麼問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
7327.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
7329.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
是承辦的法院沒有注意到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
7329.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
7331.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
還是說公文到了法院之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
7331.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
7334.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
卻沒有及時送到陳審法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
7334.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
7336.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
所以才出現了這樣的一個漏洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
7337.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
7339.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
其實這個最大的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
7339.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
7341.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
就是因為法官他在一審判無罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
7342.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
7344.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
判無罪以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
7344.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
7346.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
他的對人身自由的思考就會不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
7346.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
7348.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
所以他那時候就沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
7350.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
7352.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
限制出境出海 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
7352.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
7354.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
其實這個是第一審 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
7354.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
7356.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
如果說有瑕疵就在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
7356.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
7358.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
那因為沒有限制出境出海 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
7358.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
7360.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
那當然移民署他一規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
7360.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
7362.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
可是問題是檢察官已經提起上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
7362.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
7364.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
而且二審法院也已經要排 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
7364.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
7366.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
都已經排了庭了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
7366.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
7368.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
那這件事情為什麼都沒有讓移民署知道呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
7368.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
7370.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
7370.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
7372.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
跟委員報告就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
7372.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
7374.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
在法官排庭之前他就不在了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
7376.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
7378.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
他就出去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
7378.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
7382.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
那其實最重要就是一審沒有限制出境出海 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
7383.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
7385.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
如果有限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
7385.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
7387.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
真的是整個程序裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
7387.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
7389.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
瑕疵是在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
7389.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
7391.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
所以變成說可能是一審法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
7391.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
7393.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
當時沒有做限制出海 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
7393.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
7395.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
這樣的一個處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
7395.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
7397.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
但是問題是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
7397.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
7399.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
接下來可能要請黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
7400.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
7402.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
7403.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
7405.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
因為在這個案件當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
7405.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
7407.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
其實檢察官他已經提起上訴了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
7407.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
7409.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
那檢察官提起上訴的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
7409.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
7411.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
為什麼沒有同時申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
7411.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
7413.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
要針對這兩名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
7413.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
7417.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
月籍的移工要申請限制出境出海 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
7417.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
7419.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
7419.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
7421.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
在案件在審理當中的強制處分權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
7421.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
7423.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
是屬於法官所擁有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
7423.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
7425.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
可是你們也可以申請吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
7425.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
7427.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
我們可以促請法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
7427.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
7429.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
對你們促請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
7429.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
7431.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
你們有促請嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
7431.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
7433.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
這個案我沒有清楚他們促請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
7433.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
7435.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
但是這個整個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
7435.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
7437.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
事實上法院就被告的保權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
7437.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
7439.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
應該是要法院來做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
7439.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
7441.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
那假如法官可以促請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
7441.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
7443.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
我們就讓法官做這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
7443.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
7445.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
那這個案上有沒有促請我們回去查看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
7445.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
7447.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
不過因為這個案子的確是很荒謬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
7447.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
7449.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
不好意思 橫拉還要再請告秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
7452.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
7454.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
因為事實上就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
7454.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
7456.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
我們可以知道說這個環節 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
7456.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
7458.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
當然一方面就在於就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
7458.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
7460.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
機關的橫向聯繫不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
7460.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
7462.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
那二方面就是可能也涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
7462.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
7464.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
移民法的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
7464.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
7466.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
因為移民法第36條第三項的規定是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
7466.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
7468.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
移民署如果知道外國人涉及刑事案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
7468.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
7470.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
已經進入司法程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
7470.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
7472.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
他在強制出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
7472.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
7474.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
強制驅逐出國的十天前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
7474.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
7476.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
要通知司法機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
7476.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
7478.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
但是只要是沒有依法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
7478.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
7480.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
羈押具體管制或限制出國的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
7480.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
7482.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
移民署是得強制驅逐出境 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
7482.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
7484.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
所以就在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
7484.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
7486.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
就發生了一個問題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
7486.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
7488.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
這個得的這個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
7488.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
7490.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
當然移民署今天他可以主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
7490.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
7492.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
就是說因為你們法院確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
7492.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
7494.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
也沒有限制出海出境的這個處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
7494.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
7496.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
所以他認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
7496.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
7498.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
沒有什麼問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
7498.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
7500.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
那他就是直接放人了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
7500.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
7502.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
可是對於我們像類似這種案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
7502.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
7504.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
他可能會事後會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
7504.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
7506.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
他之後可能會涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
7507.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
7509.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
這二審還要繼續判嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
7509.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
7511.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
還要繼續審嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
7511.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
7513.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
但是現在已經被告都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
7513.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
7515.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
逃出國外了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
7514.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
7516.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
都已經放出國外了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
7516.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
7518.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
他是被放出國外了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
7518.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
7520.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
他有可能會再回來接受審判嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
7525 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
7527 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
應該不會了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
7527 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
7529 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
基本依照我們的禁業法則來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
7529 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
7531 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
他幾乎不可能會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
7531 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
7533 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
再自己回到台灣來接受審判 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
7533 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
7535 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
所以難怪這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
7535 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
7537 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
訓職的消防員的家屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
7537 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
7539 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
他悲憤的表示說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
7539 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
7541 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
這些外籍勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
7541 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
7543 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
這兩名外籍勞工又不是笨蛋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
7543 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
7545 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
被告回到越南之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
7545 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
7547 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
根本不可能再回到台灣受審了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
7547 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
7549 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
發布通緝根本是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
7549 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
7551 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
於事無補 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
7551 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
7553 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
所以像這樣的一個情況的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
7553 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
7555 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
這個案子最後是要怎麼結呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
7557.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
7559.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
對請教秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
7587.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
7589.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
現在請委員這裡有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
7589.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
7591.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
尤其是我們現在台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
7591.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
7593.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
外籍勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
7593.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
7595.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
合法的外籍勞工大概就30萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
7595.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
7597.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
然後非法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
7597.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
7599.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
外籍勞工大概是10萬人左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
7599.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
7601.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
那麼難免一定會有類似的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
7601.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
7603.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
相關的犯罪案件的發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
7603.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
7605.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
那麼如果說類似 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
7605.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
7607.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
如果再有這樣的一個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
7607.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
7609.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
到時候不能夠追究 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
7609.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
7611.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
不能夠推責啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
7611.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
7613.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
不能卸責法院說這不是我的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
7613.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
7615.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
然後檢察官這裡也說不是我的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
7615.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
7617.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
然後移民署也說這不是我的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
7617.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
7619.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
那到底這個責任該是誰去扛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
7619.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
7621.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
該去追究哪一個機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
7621.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
7623.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
我認為說這個部分要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
7623.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
7625.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
趕快的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
7625.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
7627.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
進行一個跨部會的協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
7627.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
7629.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
我們希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
7629.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
7631.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
儘速的能夠把這個漏洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
7631.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
7633.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
填補起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
7633.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
7635.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
在法律還沒有完成修正之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
7635.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
7637.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
是不是法務部跟司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
7637.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
7639.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
都可以答應你們可以儘速的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
7639.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
7641.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
啟動和內政部移民署 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
7641.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
7643.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
這裡啟動這個相關的協調機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
7643.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
7645.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
7645.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
7647.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
好的那麼當然對於就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
7647.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
7649.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
到底是一審法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
7649.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
7651.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
那裡有出了問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
7651.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
7653.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
還是到二審 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
7653.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
7655.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
在法院的內部程序裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
7655.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
7657.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
是不是也出現了漏洞匣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
7657.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
7659.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
我希望司法院還是可以針對這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
7659.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
7661.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
去進行一個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
7661.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
7663.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
那麼因為看起來我覺得這個一審法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
7663.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
7665.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
好像在對於外籍移工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
7665.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
7667.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
沒有做出限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
7667.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
7669.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
出境出海的這個事情上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
7669.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
7671.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
是不是也有些疏失 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
7671.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
7673.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
相關前脈法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
7673.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
7675.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
未來需不需要進入到法官評鑑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
7675.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
7677.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
只能去做討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
7677.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
7679.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
我希望司法院可以針對這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
7679.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
7681.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
再做一個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
7681.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
7683.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
因為這真的是個案的法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
7683.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
7685.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
在個案判斷的瑕疵啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
7685.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
7687.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
那至於要不要進行評鑑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
7687.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
7689.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
那當然是另外一回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
7689.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
7691.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
那就是因為假設有出現瑕疵的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
7691.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
7693.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
那當然可能可以進到法官評鑑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
7693.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
7695.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
委員會去做討論嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
7695.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
7697.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
7697.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
7699.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
因為這法官在個案的判決上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
7699.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
7701.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
出現問題然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
7701.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
7703.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
都 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
7702.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
7704.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
都不理不睬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
7704.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
7706.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
或是認為說這個沒有什麼關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
7706.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
7708.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
他只是犯了一個小小的錯誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
7708.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
7709.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
7709.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
7710.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
重點是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
7710.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
7712.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
除非我們要感動審判核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
7713.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
7715.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
司法行政可不可以動審判核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
7715.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
7717.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
這是我們最大家對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
7717.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
7719.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
這次就是自從您擔任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
7719.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
7721.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
律師長來立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
7721.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
7723.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
就是備詢之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
7723.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
7725.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
我常常認為說您都會用審判核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
7725.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
7727.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
來當成一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
7727.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
7728.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
的一個藉口 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
7728.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
7730.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
我認為說法官審判核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
7730.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
7731.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
我們一定要予以尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
7731.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
7733.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
但是這審判核心也不是無限上綱啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
7735.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
7737.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
對 否則的話為什麼會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
7737.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
7739.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
還是會看到有很多的裁判 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
7739.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
7741.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
判決是有瑕疵的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
7741.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
7743.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
然後被高院或是甚至被憲法法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
7743.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
7745.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
7745.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
7747.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
是有瑕疵所以就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
7747.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
7749.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
就發回 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
7749.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
7751.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
審判或是甚至認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
7751.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
7753.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
他是個違憲的判決等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
7753.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
7755.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
所以就這個案子來說的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
7755.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
7757.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
我希望大家可以來檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
7757.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
7759.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
如果是重大瑕疵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
7759.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
7761.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
是一定重制律的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
7761.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
7763.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
並不是那麼簡單的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
7763.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
7765.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
那其實這個跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
7765.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
7767.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
如同委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
7767.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
7769.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
他制度上是有個地方是可以彌補的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
7771.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
7773.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
那我們也不能說全部都是審判核心 |
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7773.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
7775.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
我們也要從制度上去彌補 |
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7775.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
7777.51 |
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簡單來說啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
7777.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
7779.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
我們如果說從民法的善良管理人的角度來看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
7779.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
7781.51 |
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就法官他今天有沒有進入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
7781.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
7783.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
進到善良管理人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
7783.51 |
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7785.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
注意的義務嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
7785.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
7787.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
包含檢察官也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
7787.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
7789.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
都非常上述的總是要去了解現在被告的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
7789.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
7791.51 |
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是怎麼樣 |
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7791.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
7793.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
所以呢因為法官跟檢察官是具有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
7793.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
7795.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
高度專業知識的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
7795.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
7797.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
法律知識的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
7797.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
7799.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
司法人員跟一般的老百姓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
7799.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
7801.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
7801.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
7803.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
所以我們當然這邊是有資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
7803.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
7805.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
要求 |
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7805.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
7807.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
司法人員要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
7807.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
7809.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
更能夠善盡他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
7809.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
7811.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
注意的義務好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
7811.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
7813.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
好那接下來還有一個問題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
7813.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
7815.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
7814.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
7816.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
這個大法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
7816.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
7818.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
判治113號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
7818.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
7820.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
113年的刑判至8號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
7820.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
7822.17 |
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的問題有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
7822.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
7824.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
那這裡的話可能要跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
7824.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
7826.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
黃市長可能請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
7826.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
7828.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
這個秘書長可以先回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
7831.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
7833.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
我們知道其實司法院憲法法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
7833.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
7835.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
在113年他做成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
7835.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
7837.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
憲判至8號判決之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
7837.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
7839.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
針對該案申請人因為死刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
7839.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
7841.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
確定案件就創設了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
7841.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
7843.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
可以請求檢察總長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
7843.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
7845.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
提起特別非常上述的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
7845.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
7847.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
個案究竟情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
7847.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
7849.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
那麼這個部分事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
7849.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
7851.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
我看到了最高檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
7851.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
7853.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
最高檢察長這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
7853.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
7855.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
陸續對於五位死求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
7855.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
7857.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
提出了非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
7857.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
7859.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
上述 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
7859.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
7861.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
那麼當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
7861.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
7863.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
那現在是還有多少位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
7863.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
7865.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
還沒有提起非常上述 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
7865.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
7867.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
還是說全部都已經提起非常上述 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
7867.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
7869.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
沒有那目前這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
7869.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
7871.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
除了有一位已經執行完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
7871.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
7873.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
還有一位已經死亡之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
7873.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
7875.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
其他的總長大概提了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
7875.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
7877.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
四五位身體非常上述 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
7877.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
7879.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
那其他的都還在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
7879.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
7881.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
檢察總長審核當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
7881.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
7883.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
是不是可以請次長給我一份書面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
7883.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
7885.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
的報告就是說是對你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
7885.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
7887.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
現在到底31名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
7887.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
7889.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
死求的處理的情況是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
7889.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
7891.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
那所以本席先要講就是說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
7891.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
7893.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
因為剛次長也提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
7893.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
7895.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
因為有一名死求已經過世了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
7895.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
7897.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
那麼這名死求是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
7897.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
7899.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
20多年前曾經犯下戮人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
7899.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
7901.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
勒贖私票分屍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
7901.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
7903.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
早就被判處死刑定讞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
7903.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
7905.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
的受刑人歐陽蓉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
7905.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
7907.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
那因為他長期沒有執行死刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
7907.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
7909.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
最後死在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
7909.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
7911.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
病死獄中可是荒謬的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
7911.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
7913.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
我們檢察總長還必須依法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
7913.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
7915.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
為這位已經死亡的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
7915.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
7917.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
死刑犯來提起非常上述 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
7919.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
7921.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
這是不是真的還蠻荒謬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
7921.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
7923.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
他都已經過世了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
7923.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
7925.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
理由不是因為他有沒有犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
7925.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
7927.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
而是因為現在的113年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
7927.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
7929.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
限判字8號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
7929.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
7931.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
所要求的一致決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
7931.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
7933.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
所以變成說我們的檢察總長還要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
7933.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
7935.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
為一位已經病死於獄中的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
7935.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
7937.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
死求然後去翻他過去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
7937.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
7939.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
案件看看當時的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
7939.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
7941.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
書裡面是不是法官一致決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
7941.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
7943.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
那本席是認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
7943.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
7945.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
對於像這樣的一個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
7945.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
7947.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
就凸顯出113年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
7947.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
7949.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
限判字8號的一個荒謬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
7949.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
7951.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
他非常在意的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
7951.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
7953.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
程序上面的正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
7953.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
7955.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
可是卻沒有注意到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
7955.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
7957.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
所謂的實體的正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
7957.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
7959.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
我們很期待就是國家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
7959.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
7961.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
高階這些法律精英 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
7961.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
7963.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
應該他要把他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
7963.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
7965.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
心力去投入在去發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
7965.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
7967.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
發現這個真實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
7967.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
7969.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
發現這事實證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
7969.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
7971.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
而不是為了這種程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
7971.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
7973.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
上面的這個瑕疵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
7973.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
7975.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
然後去翻 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
7975.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
7977.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
翻舊帳到底當時的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
7977.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
7979.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
這個每一審的法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
7979.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
7981.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
是不是都有一致決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
7981.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
7983.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
其實這是蠻荒謬的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
7983.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
7985.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
不知道就是次長對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
7985.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
7987.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
113號的限判字8號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
7987.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
7989.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
對於113年限判字8號的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
7989.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
7991.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
對於你們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
7991.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
7993.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
高檢署 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
7993.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
7995.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
實際上的失誤的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
7995.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
7997.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
有沒有增加你們的一些負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
7997.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
7999.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
7999.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
8001.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
那總長他因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
8001.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
8003.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
18憲法出來了嘛他有憲法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
8003.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
8005.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
未接的效力所以就總長來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
8005.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
8007.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
他也是要依照憲法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
8007.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
8009.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
去做相關的審核啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
8009.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
8011.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
那當然這個案子他提非常上述說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
8011.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
8013.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
最高法院得依法判決嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
8013.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
8015.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
這是總長跟法官他都要各盡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
8015.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
8017.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
他這法律上的職責啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
8017.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
8019.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
那所以如果說我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
8019.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
8021.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
講這個狀況如果說我們剛剛講那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
8021.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
8023.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
病史獄中的死刑犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
8023.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
8025.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
然後你們去翻他過去的判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
8025.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
8027.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
果然發現曾經有一審法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
8027.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
8029.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
判決書裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
8029.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
8031.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
然後有一位法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
8031.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
8033.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
他沒有同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
8033.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
8035.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
那所以這案子是要怎麼樣要重審嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
8035.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
8037.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
按照18憲法8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
8037.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
8039.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
他沒有要求這個立審 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
8039.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
8041.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
每一次他只要最後一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
8041.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
8043.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
最後一次確定審 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
8043.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
8045.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
只要是最後一次確定審他不是說要立審嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
8045.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
8047.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
不是不是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
8047.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
8049.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
所以你們現在只去檢視他最後一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
8049.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
8051.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
最後確定三審說自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
8051.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
8053.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
這個好像跟我對於憲法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
8053.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
8055.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
8號的這個理解不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
8055.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
8057.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
不過就是總之啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
8057.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
8059.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
就是對於13年憲法第8號判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
8059.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
8061.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
法務部現在已經進行全面盤點了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
8061.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
8063.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
你們現在盤點的進度是如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
8063.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
8065.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
你們現在盤點的進度是如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
8065.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
8067.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
你們現在盤點的進度是如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
8067.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
8069.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
你們現在盤點的進度是如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
8069.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
8071.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
跟憲法8號有關係的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
8071.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
8073.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
都是總長在進行判點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
8073.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
8075.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
因為這是總長的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
8075.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
8077.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
總長要不然體態上是總長的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
8077.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
8079.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
所以總長他是陸續在提 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
8079.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
8081.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
所以剛才委員有提到有四五件已經提了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
8081.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
8083.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
就是他陸續提出來的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
8083.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
8085.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
好那本席希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
8085.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
8087.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
可以提供給本席一份說明報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
8087.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
8089.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
我想了解就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
8089.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
8091.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
到底這個判決的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
8091.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
8093.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
然後現在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
8093.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
8095.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
高檢這邊總長這裡他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
8095.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
8097.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
其實因為是代理總長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
8097.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
8099.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
現在他們這裡做的情況怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
8099.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
8101.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
還有講到代理檢察總長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
8101.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
8103.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
本席要順便請教就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
8103.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
8105.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
現在總統有在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
8107.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
8109.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
檢察總長候選人的提名作業嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
8109.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
8111.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
這部分我是總長的職權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
8111.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
8113.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
8113.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
8115.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
所以法務部這邊也沒有任何訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
8115.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
8117.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
8117.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
8119.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
至少我本人沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
8119.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
8121.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
本席當然在這邊還是呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
8121.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
8123.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
希望來自總統能夠儘速提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
8123.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
8125.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
檢察總長人選的名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
8125.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
8127.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
不要耽誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
8127.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
8129.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
整個檢察總長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
8129.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
8131.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
職權的這些行使 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
8131.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
8133.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
好以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
8134.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
8136.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
好謝謝歐洲衛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
8136.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
8138.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
那我們接下來請張雅玲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
8147.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
8149.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
好謝謝主席我們邀請司法院秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
8152.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
8154.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
請高秘書長謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
8159.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
8161.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
好秘書長早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
8161.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
8163.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
那今天是想要跟秘書長請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
8163.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
8165.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
有關於這個被害人訴訟參與制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
8165.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
8167.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
有幾件事情想要請秘書長來釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
8167.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
8169.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
就是說這一次的幾個刑事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
8169.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
8171.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
訴訟法的修正草案都有進一步的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
8171.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
8175.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
要提到要擴張訴訟參與人的程序權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
8175.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
8177.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
因為現在我們是可以讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
8177.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
8179.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
訴訟參與人表示意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
8179.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
8181.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
但是現在的版本是希望可以讓他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
8181.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
8183.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
可以申請調查證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
8183.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
8185.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
也可以詢問被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
8185.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
8187.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
或者是證人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
8187.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
8191.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
那也可以去要求檢察官說明他們的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
8191.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
8193.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
那我想就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
8193.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
8195.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
當今天我們要進一步的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
8195.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
8197.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
把被害人的權利擴張到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
8197.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
8201.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
主動參與證據調查的這個時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
8201.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
8203.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
可能就會碰到我們訴訟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
8203.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
8205.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
刑事訴訟法裡面的不同的角色的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
8205.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
8207.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
一個權限的配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
8208.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
8210.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
那現行制度之下呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
8210.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
8212.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
我們的訴訟參與人其實是可以取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
8212.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
8214.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
卷證資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
8214.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
8216.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
也可以到庭參與準備程序跟審判 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
8216.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
8218.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
準備程序跟審判程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
8218.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
8222.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
但是呢在現在的公訴程序裡面呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
8222.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
8226.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
檢察官的工作就是犯罪的追訴以及舉證的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
8226.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
8228.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
所以這兩個角色其實是有差別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
8228.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
8232.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
特別是檢察官是具有國家刑事犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
8232.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
8234.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
追訴權的還有這個客觀的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
8234.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
8236.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
那被害人呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
8236.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
8238.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
現在就如果讓他們參與的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
8238.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
8240.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
可能會有自己的個別利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
8240.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
8242.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
也可能會有對於自己案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
8242.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
8245.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
事實被告責任以及量刑的一個看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
8245.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
8247.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
所以今天如果訴訟參與人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
8247.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
8249.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
可以申請調查證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
8249.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
8252.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
兩邊對某一項的證據是不是應該有調查的必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
8252.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
8254.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
某一個事實是否重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
8254.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
8256.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
可能都會有不同的判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
8256.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
8258.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
所以我想我今天看到司法院的一個書面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
8258.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
8260.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
報告其實立場寫得非常清楚啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
8260.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
8263.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
就是說這個審、檢、辯的三面關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
8263.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
8264.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
是現行的一個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
8264.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
8267.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
也是非常重要的一個訴訟結構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
8267.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
8270.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
所以我想請教訴訟這個秘書長說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
8270.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
8273.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
部分的提案要進一步的賦予訴訟參與人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
8273.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
8276.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
證據調查、申請權、證人、發問權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
8276.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
8278.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
甚至是詢問被告的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
8278.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
8282.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
那司法院認為被害人訴訟參與權的界線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
8282.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
8284.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
到底應該畫在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
8284.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
8286.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
好如果說今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
8287.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
8290.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
檢察官認為有些證據沒有必要調查的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
8290.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
8292.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
可是被害人又認為有的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
8292.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
8294.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
那這時候又應該要怎麼辦呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
8294.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
8296.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
好所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
8296.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
8298.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
這個是不是可以請這個秘書長說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
8299.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
8301.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
我們在那個書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
8301.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
8302.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
也已經陳述得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
8302.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
8303.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
8303.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
8305.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
因為被害人他是證人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
8305.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
8308.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
所以我們在書面報告裡面也提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
8308.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
8313.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
被害人最重要是要由檢察官來負責照護義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
8313.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
8318.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
那被害人如果再讓他可以申請調查證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
8318.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
8320.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
會不會跟檢察官衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
8320.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
8321.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
會不會矛盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
8321.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
8323.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
會不會不一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
8323.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
8327.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
這個在整個訴訟程序的進行一定會混亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
8327.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
8329.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
那同樣的結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
8329.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
8333.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
也是一樣會不會跟檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
8333.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
8335.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
這個彼此之間的矛盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
8335.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
8337.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
還有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
8337.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
8339.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
一個安置院裡面會有很多證人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
8339.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
8342.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
因為被害人也是證人之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
8342.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
8345.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
他對其他證人他可以解問嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
8345.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
8347.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
這個是所以我們是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
8347.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
8351.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
建議一定要審慎的去評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
8351.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
8355.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
那因為那委員提案裡面所 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
8355.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
8357.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
這個被害影響陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
8357.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
8359.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
其實這個是很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
8359.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
8360.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
這可以列入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
8360.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
8365.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
那其實我們現在訴訟法規定的被害人參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
8365.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
8367.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
他已經可以獲知 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
8368.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
8370.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
這個卷證資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
8370.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
8373.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
他也可以倒停陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
8373.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
8376.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
那所以在調查證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
8376.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
8379.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
跟結問這一塊一定要審慎評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
8379.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
8380.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
好了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
8380.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
8382.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
那其實我下一個問題就是想要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
8382.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
8383.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
因為就是您剛剛有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
8383.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
8386.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
訴訟參與人同時也是被害人以及證人嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
8386.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
8387.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
8387.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
8389.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
那這個被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
8389.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
8391.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
他並不是程序的參與人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
8391.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
8392.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
在很多的案件裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
8392.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
8395.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
他也是犯罪事實非常重要的一個證據來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
8395.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
8397.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
特別是像是性侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
8397.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
8399.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
家庭暴力這些案件裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
8399.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
8403.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
他被害人的證書本身就有可能是法院來認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
8403.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
8405.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
是不是犯罪事實的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
8405.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
8409.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
那如果同一個人一方面是案件的重要證人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
8409.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
8413.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
那他又可以用訴訟參與人的身分來閱卷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
8413.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
8415.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
聽取其他證人的陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
8415.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
8417.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
知道被告的答辯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
8417.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
8420.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
那法院後續在評價他的證言的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
8420.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
8421.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
就必須要去確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
8421.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
8424.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
到底是他的陳述來自於自身 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
8424.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
8426.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
對於原本事件的記憶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
8426.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
8430.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
還是他看了很多訴訟資訊之後產生的記憶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
8430.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
8431.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
8433.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
8434.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
8434.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
8436.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
委員問到一個這個醫學上的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
8437.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
8438.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
Suchi |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
8439.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
8440.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
自己創造的記憶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
8440.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
8444.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
其實所以對於他當然是證人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
8444.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
8447.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
那他也是被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
8447.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
8450.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
那法官他在訴訟指揮上就要去注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
8450.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
8454.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
同樣的對於被害人他的陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
8454.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
8456.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
跟他在證人的陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
8456.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
8458.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
法官你在認定上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
8458.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
8461.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
這個就是法官非常重要的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
8461.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
8463.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
一定要讓他陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
8463.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
8465.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
可是判斷的是法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
8465.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
8467.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
這是整個捐贈資料去判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
8467.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
8468.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
8470.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
8474.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
那個被告的被害人他的陳述這個絕對要存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
8474.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
8476.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
可是同樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
8476.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
8479.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
要不要讓他判斷證據跟絕問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
8479.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
8480.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
這個可能真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
8480.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
8482.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
我想這個就是剛剛我們講的一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
8482.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
8484.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
就是說這法官就會無法去判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
8484.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
8486.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
這到底是基於自己的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
8486.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
8490.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
還是因為看了太多的訴訟的一些證據之後產生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
8490.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
8493.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
這就會造成我們在實務上面的一些困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
8493.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
8494.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
那您認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
8494.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
8499.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
因為現在有版本是提出這樣子的一個修正的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
8499.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
8502.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
那您認為在實務上面有沒有辦法避免呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
8503.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
8505.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
是有辦法經過設計程序上面來避免的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
8505.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
8507.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
還是你覺得是無法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
8507.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
8510.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
程序上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
8510.37 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
因為他訴訟前調查證據交誤結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
8513.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
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就這樣一直走一直走 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
8516.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
8520.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
被害人他申請到的證據跟檢察官混亂的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
8520.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
8522.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
甚至打亂的檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
8522.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
8526.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
他這個證明犯罪事實的證據策略的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
8528.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
8530.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
會造成程序的混亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
8530.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
8532.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
法官也會跟著混亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
8532.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
8534.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
那當然法官還是要判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
8534.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
8536.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
如果立法是這樣通過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
8536.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
8538.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
法官還是要判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
8538.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
8539.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
8540.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
8542.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
他所造成的程序擁藏 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
8543.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
8545.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
我相信是可以預測的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
8547.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
8548.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
程序擁藏 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
8548.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
8551.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
以及我們可能在法官做判斷的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
8551.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
8553.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
會造成非常大的困難嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
8553.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
8554.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
8554.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
8556.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
好那我也想請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
8556.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
8558.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
就是說被告的防禦權這次也有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
8558.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
8560.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
就是原則上對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
8560.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
8562.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
檢察官起訴的犯罪事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
8562.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
8564.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
是提我們現在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
8564.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
8570.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
被告的原則上是針對檢察官起訴的犯罪事實及提出的證據來進行防禦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
8570.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
8573.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
但是如果未來訴訟參議員可以另外提出證據申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
8573.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
8575.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
調查申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
8575.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
8578.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
那就可能會出現檢察官和訴訟參議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
8578.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
8580.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
對於不同的待證事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
8580.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
8582.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
會有不同的證據主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
8582.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
8586.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
特別是如果一個案件有超過一個以上的被害人的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
8586.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
8588.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
那每一個被害的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
8588.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
8590.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
他們要如何的來申請這些證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
8590.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
8593.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
那可能就會造成一個非常混亂的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
8593.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
8595.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
那特別是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
8595.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
8598.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
如果檢察官認為某一件事情跟犯罪成立沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
8598.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
8599.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
所以沒有調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
8599.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
8601.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
但是訴訟參議員認為非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
8601.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
8604.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
那就因此另外申請調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
8604.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
8606.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
MING PAO CANADA .COM |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
8605.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
8608.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
或者是說檢察官對於證人的結論已經結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
8608.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
8611.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
可是訴訟參議員又從另外一個角度提出一系列的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
8611.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
8614.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
那面對訴訟的供訪範圍可能就會非常非常的不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
8614.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
8617.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
那所以我不曉得說對於這件事情的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
8617.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
8621.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
您認為是有辦法透過程序來保障一個供訪的平衡嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
8621.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
8623.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
還是您認為基本上是沒有辦法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
8623.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
8625.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
那幾乎是不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
8625.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
8627.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
我如果賦予他權力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
8627.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
8629.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
他當然可以刑事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
8629.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
8632.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
那對檢察官還有另外對被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
8632.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
8634.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
因為我們刑事訴訟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
8634.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
8636.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
訴訟三面關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
8636.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
8639.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
法官、檢方、檢辯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
8639.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
8643.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
那檢察官他要負責照護被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
8644.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
8647.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
其實被害人所有要申請調查的證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
8647.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
8650.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
應該是向檢察官提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
8650.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
8653.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
他要結問他也可以向檢察官申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
8653.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
8655.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
檢察官要盡到照護義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
8655.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
8657.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
然後在整個程序上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
8657.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
8662.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
因為檢察官是這個要負責這個起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
8662.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
8665.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
然後要將來在公訴程序上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
8665.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
8667.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
要讓被告定罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
8667.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
8669.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
所以他有一定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
8670.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
8672.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
證據調查結問的策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
8672.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
8676.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
那當被害人他有申請調查權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
8676.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
8678.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
還有結問權的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
8679.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
8681.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
我們下次再見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
8682.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
8684.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
很難不發生混亂的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
8684.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
8687.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
對,所以聽起來還是回到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
8687.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
8690.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
其實根本的原因就是我們剛剛就討論到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
8690.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
8691.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
就是這整個程序上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
8691.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
8694.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
跟這三個的架構關係會完全錯亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
8694.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
8697.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
那可能會造成實務上面的審判 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
8697.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
8699.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
非常的困難去判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
8699.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
8701.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
而且程序上面非常籠場對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
8701.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
8704.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
所以真正的被害人如果要得到他的爭議的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
8704.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
8706.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
可能也會等待更漫長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
8706.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
8708.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
好,那這個部分我想再 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
8708.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
8709.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
這部分我就先問到這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
8709.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
8712.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
那我還有一個有關於法服的問題想要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
8713.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
8715.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
就是因為我上個禮拜有看到有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
8715.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
8717.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
國民黨的委員要求法服不得替 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
8717.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
8721.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
特定幾類重大犯罪的加害人辯護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
8721.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
8726.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
那似乎好像也有跟司法院取得一些共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
8726.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
8728.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
所以我今天想要釐清一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
8728.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
8731.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
就是說現行的這個刑事訴訟法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
8731.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
8733.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
第31條就有規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
8733.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
8736.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
最輕本刑三年以上的有期徒刑的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
8736.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
8739.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
本來就屬於強制辯護的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
8739.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
8741.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
如果他沒有辦法自己請律師的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
8741.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
8745.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
法院依法就必須指定公社的辯護人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
8745.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
8746.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
或是其他律師來幫他辯護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
8746.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
8750.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
那這個強制的辯護是從民國24年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
8750.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
8752.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
就已經有的既有制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
8752.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
8755.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
也就是說這個制度已經差不多要100年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
8755.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
8757.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
差不多100年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
8757.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
8758.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
像是殺人獨家致死 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
8758.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
8761.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
強制性交跟重大虐童致死自重傷的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
8761.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
8764.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
本來就有相當的一部分是屬於強制辯護的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
8764.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
8768.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
所以今天即使是法服不幫他辯論好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
8768.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
8770.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
我們還是要透過公社辯護人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
8770.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
8772.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
或是幫他找到辯護人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
8772.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
8774.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
才能夠讓審判繼續進行嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
8776.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
8778.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
所以呢我想問就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
8778.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
8780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
你們自己過去有公開表示說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
8780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
8783.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
其實現在公社辯護制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
8783.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
8785.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
一直都有人力缺口的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
8785.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
8787.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
我們找不到人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
8787.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
8789.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
所以如果今天依法我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
8789.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
8791.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
有幫他有公社辯護人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
8791.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
8792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
我們要強制辯護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
8792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
8796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
可是我們又不讓法服來去派的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
8796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
8798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
那到底我們要怎麼進行這些案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
8798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
8801.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
這些案件還能夠繼續進行嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
8801.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
8802.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
8802.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
8805.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
強制辯護並不等同於法服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
8805.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
8806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
強制辯護一定要存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
8806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
8808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
這是這個正當法律程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
8808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
8812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
那只是強制辯護這件事是誰要來擔當 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
8812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
8816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
早期就是律師或者公社辯護人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
8816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
8818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
那後來有法服成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
8818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
8822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
就很多案件就慢慢派給法服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
8822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
8823.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
對啊我的問題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
8823.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
8825.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
問題是公社辯護人現在沒有人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
8825.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
8828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
那當然這個是一個國家政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
8828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
8831.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
法服到底他負擔的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
8831.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
8834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
負擔的工作範圍要多大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
8834.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
8836.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
這是一個國家政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
8836.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
8838.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
當然沒有法服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
8839.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
8840.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
有議辯啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
8840.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
8841.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
古時候沒有法服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
8841.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
8843.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
也是有義務辯護人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
8843.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
8847.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
義務辯護人他也是要承擔強制辯護案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
8847.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
8853.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
那如果這一次這個委員有要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
8853.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
8858.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
法服對某些案件不能夠這個辯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
8858.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
8859.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
不能用強制辯護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
8859.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
8863.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
對不能請法服為辯護律師的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
8863.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
8866.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
那一定會走下一辯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
8866.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
8867.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
義務辯護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
8867.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
8868.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
8868.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
8869.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
對 秘書長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
8869.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
8870.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
因為我現在的問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
8870.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
8873.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
今天如果我們真的要要求法服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
8873.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
8875.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
不去做強制辯護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
8875.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
8878.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
那到底因為自己公社辯護制度長期缺人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
8878.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
8880.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
這也是你們自己之前說的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
8880.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
8882.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
所以如果說不走法服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
8882.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
8883.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
就一定是走公社辯護人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
8883.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
8885.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
或是自己再去找律師嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
8885.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
8886.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
還有一個義務辯護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
8886.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
8887.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
好義務辯護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
8887.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
8889.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
那我問你就是說你們現在義務辯護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
8889.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
8892.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
或者是公社辯護人真的有辦法去承接 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
8892.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
8894.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
現在這些強制辯護的能量嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
8894.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
8898.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
那如果法服法這樣修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
8898.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
8899.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
那當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
8900.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
8905.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
就是要去完成這個兼具的任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
8905.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
8906.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
所以你的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
8906.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
8907.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
你們是找到人就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
8907.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
8909.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
現場的公法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
8909.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
8911.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
地方法院各地方法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
8911.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
8912.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
都找到人的意思就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
8912.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
8914.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
那其實我們不是我們找人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
8914.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
8916.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
這是要用錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
8916.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
8917.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
因為律師公會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
8917.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
8919.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
其實那個義務辯護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
8919.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
8922.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
是跟律師公會彼此之間建立的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
8922.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
8924.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
我想今天秘書長抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
8924.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
8926.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
因為我時間真的很有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
8926.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
8928.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
我其實今天只想要確認一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
8928.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
8930.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
就是義務辯護的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
8930.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
8931.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
就是說今天法服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
8931.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
8932.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
如果真的要修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
8932.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
8934.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
讓他不能做強制辯護的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
8934.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
8935.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
我們到底有沒有人去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
8935.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
8937.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
因為這是一法規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
8937.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
8939.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
就是你今天在這31條裡面的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
8939.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
8941.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
就是一定某些特別的案情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
8941.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
8943.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
一定要有公社辯護人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
8943.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
8945.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
或是就是有人幫他辯護對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
8945.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
8947.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
這是法的規定就是要這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
8947.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
8949.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
所以如果說今天我們要這樣修 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
8949.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
8951.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
我們就要來考慮現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
8951.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
8952.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
到底找不找得到人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
8952.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
8953.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
如果找不到人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
8953.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
8954.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
他會造成什麼樣的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
8954.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
8955.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
就是我們的審判沒有辦法繼續進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
8955.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
8957.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
審判不能繼續進行的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
8957.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
8959.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
那你跟家屬的正義又是如何被保障呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
8959.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
8961.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
我簡單的問題就是在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
8961.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
8963.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
就如同委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
8963.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
8965.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
當法服不能接這些案件的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
8965.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
8967.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
就是走向義務辯護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
8967.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
8969.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
其實各法院都有義務辯護人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
8969.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
8971.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
因為我們公社辯護人不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
8971.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
8974.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
那法服也不是能夠因應所有案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
8974.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
8976.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
也不是符合所有案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
8976.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
8978.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
法服這是用錢的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
8978.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
8980.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
你錢要花在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
8982.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
8984.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
不好意思 因為我想確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
8984.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
8985.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
就是一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
8985.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
8987.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
錢到底能不能找得到人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
8987.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
8988.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
這是一個很大的問號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
8988.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
8990.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
現在我們光錢很多地方都找不到人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
8990.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
8991.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
8991.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
8992.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
我覺得就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
8992.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
8994.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
如果我們今天往這個方向修法的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
8994.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
8995.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
我們就是要回到實務上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
8995.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
8997.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
到底會產生什麼樣子的後果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
8997.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
8999.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
就像我們前面在討論這個刑事訴訟法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
8999.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
9001.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
要去做修正的一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
9001.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
9003.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
我們實務上到底會造成什麼後果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
9003.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
9004.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
大家才能夠審慎的思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
9004.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
9005.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
我們要不要這樣修 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
9005.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
9007.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
好 那再來下一個東西就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
9007.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
9009.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
在法服的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
9009.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
9010.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
9010.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
9011.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
9011.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
9012.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
9012.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
9013.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
9013.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
9014.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
9014.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
9015.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
9015.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
9016.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
9016.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
9017.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
9017.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
9018.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
9018.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
9019.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
9019.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
9020.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
9020.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
9021.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
9021.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
9022.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
9022.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
9023.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
9023.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
9024.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
9024.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
9025.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
9025.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
9026.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
9026.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
9027.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
9027.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
9028.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
9028.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
9029.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
9029.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
9030.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
9030.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
9031.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
9031.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
9032.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
9032.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
9033.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
9033.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
9034.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
9034.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
9035.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
9035.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
9036.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
9036.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
9037.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
9037.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
9038.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
9010.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
9011.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
法服的意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
9011.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
9012.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
本來就不是先判定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
9012.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
9013.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
一個人到底值不值得幫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
9013.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
9014.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
而是確保 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
9014.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
9016.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
法院在判一個人有罪之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
9016.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
9018.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
可以把他有利的事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
9018.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
9019.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
跟法律的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
9019.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
9021.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
完整的提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
9021.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
9022.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
這是法服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
9022.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
9024.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
我們當時的一個設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
9024.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
9026.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
像是我現在舉了兩個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
9026.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
9028.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
就是過去的王光祿案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
9028.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
9030.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
原本都已經被判刑確定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
9030.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
9032.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
可是在法服律師團的協助之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
9032.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
9034.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
經過後續的就計程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
9034.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
9035.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
他最後被判無罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
9035.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
9036.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
那法服自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
9036.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
9038.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
今年也有一個實際的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
9038.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
9041.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
我們一開始會認為他是詐欺共犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
9042.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
9044.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
後來大家去了解之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
9044.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
9046.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
發現他是一個重度聽覺障礙者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
9046.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
9048.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
從Line的對話裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
9048.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
9049.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
好像他跟人家一問一答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
9049.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
9051.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
也確實去超商領過包裹 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
9051.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
9054.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
甚至對方也答應要給他50萬的報酬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
9054.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
9056.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
所以直接看這些書面文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
9056.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
9057.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
就覺得他是個詐欺共犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
9057.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
9059.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
但是經過了解之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
9059.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
9061.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
才發現一個重度的聽覺障礙者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
9061.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
9064.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
對於文字語意跟資訊的理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
9064.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
9067.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
其實是不能用一般人的標準去推論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
9068.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
9070.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
所以不能夠因為犯罪類型 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
9070.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
9072.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
或是社會觀感 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
9072.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
9074.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
就認為這一些法律輔助案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
9074.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
9076.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
沒有協助的必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
9076.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
9078.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
這是我的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
9078.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
9081.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
因為從過去太多的案件裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
9081.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
9083.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
我們都看到了這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
9083.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
9084.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
所以我是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
9085.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
9087.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
您是不是可以直接告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
9087.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
9089.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
如果說我們今天法服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
9089.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
9091.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
要往這個方向修正的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
9091.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
9093.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
那我們的公社辯護人到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
9093.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
9095.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
或是你剛講的議辯好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
9095.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
9099.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
到底能不能解決找得到人的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
9099.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
9101.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
因為說沒有人也是你們說的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
9102.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
9103.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
你跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
9103.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
9105.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
是沒有錢不是沒有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
9105.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
9107.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
義務辯護就是要錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
9107.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
9109.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
其實大家都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
9109.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
9110.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
現在歷史很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
9110.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
9111.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
他願不願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
9111.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
9112.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
好 沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
9112.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
9113.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
我這樣聽起來就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
9113.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
9114.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
只要有錢你們就找得到人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
9114.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
9115.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
9115.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
9116.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
沒有 就有議辯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
9117.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
9118.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
對 要去找得到人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
9118.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
9119.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
議辯也是要找啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
9119.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
9120.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
9120.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
9121.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
對 義務辯護就是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
9121.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
9123.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
律師公會一大堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
9123.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
9124.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
不能講一大堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
9124.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
9127.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
很多律師都有登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
9127.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
9129.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
他們願不願意接啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
9129.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
9130.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
其實這個各法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
9130.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
9132.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
義務辯護是存在的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
9132.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
9134.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
不是只有法服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
9134.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
9135.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
我知道我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
9135.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
9136.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
我現在的問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
9136.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
9137.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
但是我覺得這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
9137.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
9138.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
要不要往這個方向修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
9138.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
9139.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
我覺得司法院自己的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
9139.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
9141.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
跟態度也要清楚啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
9141.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
9143.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
法服到的就要這樣修 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
9143.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
9145.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
我們要有辯護員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
9145.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
9146.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
這個是最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
9148.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
9149.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
9152.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
9154.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
好 那麼我現在先 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
9154.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
9156.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
做會議程序的宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
9156.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
9158.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
因為現在已經超過11點了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
9158.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
9160.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
那待會就在審委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
9160.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
9162.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
審發會委員巡達完畢之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
9162.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
9163.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
我們就休息5分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
9163.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
9164.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
好 然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
9166.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
9167.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
再見 往事結果議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
9168.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
9169.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
可以嗎 就是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
9169.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
9171.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
大家去上了洗手間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
9171.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
9174.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
那麼休息5分鐘之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
9174.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
9177.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
我們再繼續後續的巡達 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
9177.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
9178.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
那我們現在就先請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
9178.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
9180.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
審發委員來進行巡達 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
9188.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
9190.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
好 主席我們請秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
9190.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
9191.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
好 親民署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
9196.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
9197.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
好 秘書長早 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
9198.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
9203.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
我想今天我們總共有7個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
9203.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
9205.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
大概整個刑事訴訟法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
9205.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
9208.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
這一次的修正的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
9208.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
9209.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
這幾個草案內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
9209.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
9211.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
涵蓋被害人的訴訟參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
9211.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
9213.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
簡化程序調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
9213.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
9215.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
檢視審判協商程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
9215.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
9218.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
還有獨任審判的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
9218.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
9221.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
還有裁判書簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
9221.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
9224.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
那這些多項制度的修改 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
9224.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
9227.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
都在今天的這7個草案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
9227.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
9228.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
9228.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
9230.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
但是其中有關於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
9230.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
9231.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
其他的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
9231.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
9233.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
剛才前面有一些委員問到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
9233.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
9234.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
但是我個人最關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
9234.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
9236.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
我認為也是社會大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
9236.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
9239.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
在幾個禮拜前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
9239.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
9240.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
大家最關心的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
9240.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
9243.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
有關裁判書簡化的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
9243.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
9245.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
裁判書簡化的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
9245.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
9246.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
我們當然我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
9246.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
9248.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
司法院是基於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
9248.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
9250.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
司法資源的配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
9250.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
9251.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
法官的工作負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
9251.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
9254.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
同時要兼顧當事人的權益保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
9254.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
9255.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
9257.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
9258.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
9259.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
9261.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
就光就這個裁判書簡化的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
9261.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
9263.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
我們在這個各委員的提案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
9263.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
9265.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
有各種不一樣的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
9265.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
9266.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
我知道我們司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
9266.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
9268.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
也有一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
9268.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
9272.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
目前是行政院會議協中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
9272.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
9274.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
那這個兩個禮拜前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
9274.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
9276.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
有委員在這裡質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
9276.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
9278.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
這個裁判書簡化的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
9278.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
9281.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
提出說這是法官偷懶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
9281.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
9284.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
這個不寫判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
9284.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
9287.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
有甚至提到說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
9287.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
9290.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
要用獨家修法來交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
9290.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
9292.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
這個部分要請秘書長在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
9293.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
9294.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
嚴正聲明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
9294.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
9295.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
9295.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
9297.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
我那天看狀況好像沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
9297.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
9299.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
很多的時間讓秘書長好好的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
9299.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
9301.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
是不是能夠讓秘書長在這邊說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
9301.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
9302.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
澄清一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
9302.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
9304.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
這個很遺憾會有這種傳言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
9304.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
9306.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
其實獨家修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
9306.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
9309.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
那個行政院送本院會議協 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
9309.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
9311.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
本院三天內就出去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
9311.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
9313.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
因為那是一個重要的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
9313.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
9314.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
那關於法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
9314.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
9317.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
我們沒有說法官不寫判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
9317.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
9319.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
這個部分我等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
9319.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
9321.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
就是說沒有所謂什麼交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
9321.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
9323.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
獨家交換這個完全沒有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
9323.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
9326.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
那這個簡化判決部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
9326.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
9329.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
這其實也不是司法院今天獨創的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
9329.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
9331.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
這個是從2017年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
9331.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
9333.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
這個司改國是會議開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
9333.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
9335.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
大家就在談這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
9335.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
9337.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
這個判決書簡化的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
9337.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
9339.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
這個改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
9339.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
9341.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
那我也知道說這個我們司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
9341.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
9343.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
也不是說這臨時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
9343.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
9344.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
我們就把它改一改 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
9344.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
9346.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
事實上我們從106年開始到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
9346.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
9349.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
已經開了我自己手上的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
9349.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
9351.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
就開了十四以上的會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
9351.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
9356.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
那這個也做出這樣子的結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
9356.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
9358.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
不過這部分我覺得還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
9358.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
9360.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
第一個要讓社會清楚說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
9360.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
9363.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
我們為什麼要做這個判決書簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
9363.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
9367.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
那這個要解決哪一些實務上的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
9367.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
9369.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
我覺得也要讓社會清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
9371.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
9373.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
那這個我看這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
9374.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
9376.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
這個這次修法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
9376.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
9378.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
大概第三百 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
9378.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
9381.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
第三百一十條之一跟第三百一十二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
9381.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
9383.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
跟三百一十條之二 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
9383.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
9387.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
這兩條這個是主要的判決簡化的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
9387.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
9390.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
但是兩個規範這兩條所規範的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
9390.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
9392.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
9392.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
9394.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
範圍並不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
9394.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
9396.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
三百零 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
9396.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
9398.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
一個這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
9398.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
9400.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
這個三百 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
9399.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
9401.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
一十條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
9402.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
9405.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
是跟這個是有關這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
9406.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
9407.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
簡示 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
9408.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
9410.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
三百一十條之一是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
9412.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
9417.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
這個有罪判決的預知兩年以下的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
9417.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
9419.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
那這個三百 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
9419.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
9423.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
三百一十條之二是有關簡示審判程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
9423.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
9427.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
這個是一個是一般的審判程序兩年以下的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
9427.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
9429.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
一個是簡示審判程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
9429.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
9431.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
這兩條規範的並不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
9431.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
9433.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
那這個部分是不是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
9433.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
9435.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
我們有關於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
9435.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
9437.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
9436.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
9438.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
有罪判決的簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
9438.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
9442.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
跟這個簡示審判的這個有罪判決的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
9442.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
9444.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
在試用上面有什麼差別 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
9444.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
9447.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
是不是請這個秘書長說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
9447.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
9449.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
那個有罪判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
9449.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
9451.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
他被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
9451.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
9452.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
他不一定認罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
9452.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
9455.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
那簡示審判程序就是要認罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
9455.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
9459.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
這個是最大的區別點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
9459.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
9461.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
9462.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
9465.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
我們這次為什麼會有310之二 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
9465.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
9468.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
因為310之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
9468.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
9470.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
一直告訴法官說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
9470.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
9472.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
你可以簡化判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
9472.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
9475.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
從106年講到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
9476.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
9478.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
法官就很愛寫判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
9478.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
9481.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
各位去看我們的這些判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
9481.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
9483.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
嚇到落落等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
9483.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
9485.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
告訴他只要寫這個只要寫這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
9485.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
9486.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
就是沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
9486.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
9488.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
那我們來回頭看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
9488.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
9492.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
其實關於簡示審判程序的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
9492.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
9494.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
上訴率有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
9494.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
9497.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
其實上訴率幾近於不到20 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
9497.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
9500.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
那就表示有80% |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
9500.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
9502.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
其實是被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
9502.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
9504.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
跟檢察官都是服氣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
9504.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
9507.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
那當這種狀況下的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
9507.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
9508.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
被告又認罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
9509.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
9510.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
權力要被告認罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
9510.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
9512.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
然後用簡示審判程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
9512.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
9514.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
然後對犯罪事實沒有爭執 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
9514.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
9518.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
那我們為什麼還要再去花時間寫判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
9518.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
9520.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
只要請法官寫判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
9520.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
9522.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
法官一定多多寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
9522.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
9524.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
簡單講就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
9525.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
9526.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
310條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
9526.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
9529.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
他是規範一般通常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
9529.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
9532.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
通常程序通常的審判程序裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
9533.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
9535.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
判決書的簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
9535.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
9537.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
那310條之二 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
9537.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
9539.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
他是簡示判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
9539.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
9541.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
簡示判決裡面的這個簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
9541.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
9543.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
這兩個部分要分開來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
9543.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
9544.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
分開來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
9544.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
9546.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
才不會讓人覺得法官偷懶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
9546.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
9548.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
好像這個法官不寫判決說不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
9548.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
9551.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
事實上310條在一般審判程序裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
9551.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
9554.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
310條之一還是要有判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
9554.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
9556.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
還是要有判決書嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
9556.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
9558.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
只是我們判決書要寫的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
9558.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
9559.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
把它簡化了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
9559.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
9561.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
對簡化了嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
9561.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
9564.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
引用檢察官的或什麼樣去簡化而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
9564.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
9566.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
這個部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
9566.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
9569.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
這個至少在之前我聽到的爭議裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
9569.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
9571.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
比較沒有爭議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
9571.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
9572.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
今天他還是要審判書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
9572.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
9574.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
所以他只是說審判書他簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
9575.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
9577.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
但是310條之二我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
9578.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
9580.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
用簡示程序裡面我們就不用審判書了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
9580.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
9584.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
我們用這個在這裡規定一個宣示判決筆錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
9584.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
9586.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
宣示判決筆錄來替代 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
9586.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
9588.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
這個部分就要講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
9588.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
9590.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
因為這宣示判決筆錄這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
9590.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
9592.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
這個東西你要講清楚什麼東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
9592.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
9594.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
什麼叫宣示判決筆錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
9594.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
9596.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
它的門檻是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
9596.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
9598.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
施用範圍是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
9598.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
9600.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
它的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
9600.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
9602.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
會有什麼樣的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
9603.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
9605.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
結果配置效果它會有什麼樣的差別 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
9605.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
9607.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
這部分請秘書長說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
9608.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
9612.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
第一個它一定要適用簡示審判程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
9612.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
9614.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
它一定不是重罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
9614.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
9618.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
死刑有期度三年以上全部不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
9618.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
9620.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
這個一定不是重罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
9620.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
9624.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
第三個一定要為有罪之陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
9624.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
9628.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
再過來它要對檢察官起訴的事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
9628.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
9630.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
幾乎是不爭執 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
9630.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
9632.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
所以像這種案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
9632.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
9635.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
才適用宣示判決筆錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
9635.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
9637.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
可是宣示判決筆錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
9637.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
9641.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
一定要記載主文一定要碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
9641.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
9643.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
還有一個重要的犯罪事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
9643.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
9645.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
一定要寫清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
9645.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
9647.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
我們即使是這個所謂的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
9647.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
9649.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
宣示判決筆錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
9649.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
9651.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
裡面的要件也講得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
9651.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
9653.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
它的這些要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
9653.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
9655.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
但是這個是我國獨創的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
9655.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
9657.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
還是參照外國立法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
9657.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
9659.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
9659.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
9661.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
在日本的簡化判決裡面就有這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
9663.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
9665.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
其實我看你們這個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
9665.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
9667.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
就是按照日本的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
9667.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
9669.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
還有我們的其實我們少事法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
9669.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
9671.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
還有保護令都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
9671.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
9673.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
其實我們本國就有這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
9673.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
9675.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
只是我們要讓它 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
9675.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
9677.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
少年保護事件審理細則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
9677.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
9679.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
裡面第27條第52條有類似 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
9679.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
9681.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
但是不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
9681.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
9683.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
但是你們這個基本上就是日本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
9683.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
9687.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
日本所謂這個求修行決筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
9687.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
9689.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
這個調書判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
9689.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
9691.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
你們就是按照日本的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
9691.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
9693.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
調書判決的這個立法令來立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
9693.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
9695.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
也不是我們獨創的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
9695.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
9697.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
那這個日本的調書判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
9697.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
9699.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
也不是新的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
9699.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
9701.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
它事實上在1960年代 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
9701.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
9703.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
開始就實施了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
9703.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
9705.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
到現在已經有五六十年的歷史了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
9705.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
9707.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
所以它的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
9707.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
9709.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
只是我們今天要採取 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
9709.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
9711.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
我國現在要採取這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
9711.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
9713.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
9716.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
9718.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
9717.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
9719.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
9719.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
9721.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
宣誓判決筆錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
9721.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
9723.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
這個制度我們還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
9723.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
9725.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
在這個制度的設計裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
9725.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
9727.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
9727.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
9729.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
它不是完全省略裁判的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
9729.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
9731.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
它有一些要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
9731.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
9733.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
不過在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
9733.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
9735.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
9736.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
9738.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
第一個有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
9738.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
9740.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
這個分兩個部分啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
9740.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
9742.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
剛剛講310條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
9741.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
9743.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
310條之一的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
9743.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
9745.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
一般審判程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
9745.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
9747.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
這個部分法務部有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
9747.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
9749.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
法務部對於為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
9749.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
9751.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
要這個你們一兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
9753.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
9755.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
兩年以下的這個判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
9755.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
9757.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
這個期限 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
9757.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
9759.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
這個不只法務部有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
9759.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
9761.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
各個委員的版本也有不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
9761.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
9763.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
有的是一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
9763.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
9765.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
那我們為什麼定在兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
9765.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
9767.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
其實這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
9767.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
9769.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
定在兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
9769.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
9771.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
當然是我們看所有案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
9771.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
9773.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
整個上述的狀況來決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
9773.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
9775.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
9773.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
9775.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
法務部擔憂的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
9775.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
9777.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
女法官會輕判 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
9777.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
9779.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
法務部對於法官的量刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
9779.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
9781.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
檢察官不是法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
9781.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
9783.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
對法官的量刑是有監督責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
9784.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
9786.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
量刑不當本來就可以上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
9787.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
9789.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
9788.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
9790.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
好這個部分是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
9790.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
9792.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
9791.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
9793.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
黃市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
9793.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
9795.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
法務部的意見寫得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
9795.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
9797.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
你們認為這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
9797.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
9799.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
造成一個誘因 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
9799.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
9801.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
一個量刑失衡的誘因 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
9801.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
9803.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
法務部基本上我們贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
9803.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
9805.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
判決書的簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
9805.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
9807.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
但是我們不贊成判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
9807.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
9809.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
不寫判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
9809.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
9811.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
我們是不贊成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
9811.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
9813.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
但簡化這件事也是贊成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
9813.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
9815.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
剛才提到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
9815.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
9817.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
在4310之一的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
9817.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
9819.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
他是宣告情在兩年以下都可以用簡化判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
9819.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
9821.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
那為什麼造成輕刑化呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
9821.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
9823.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
就像同剛剛委員所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
9823.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
9825.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
那法官他就容易為了要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
9825.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
9827.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
做簡化判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
9827.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
9829.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
宣告情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
9829.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
9831.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
宣告情降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
9831.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
9833.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
這就造成一個普遍性的輕刑化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
9833.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
9835.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
9835.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
9837.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
好這個先講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
9837.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
9839.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
那這部分要請四法院回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
9839.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
9841.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
因為這是一個蠻關鍵的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
9840.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
9842.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
我必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
9842.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
9844.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
嚴正抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
9843.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
9845.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
法務太輕忽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
9845.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
9847.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
法官的駕駛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
9847.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
9849.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
其實310之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
9849.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
9851.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
他的簡化判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
9851.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
9853.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
到現在都沒有發生效用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
9855.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
9857.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
法官的判決在簡化判決裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
9857.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
9859.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
還是寫到落落等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
9860.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
9862.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
只要法官寫判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
9862.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
9864.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
他就愛寫可以秤重的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
9864.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
9866.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
不是法官愛寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
9866.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
9868.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
是他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
9868.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
9870.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
因為我們是得簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
9870.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
9872.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
我們只是得簡化其實同才之間的競爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
9873.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
9875.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
那是一個很大的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
9875.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
9877.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
9877.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
9879.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
我希望檢察官不要忽視自己監督的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
9882.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
9884.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
9884.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
9886.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
9886.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
9888.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
9887.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
9889.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
9888.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
9890.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
跟委員也跟這個命令報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
9890.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
9892.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
檢察官不會去輕忽法官的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
9892.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
9894.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
這個職權的價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
9894.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
9896.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
我們在講就是說宣告刑兩年以下本不時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
9896.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
9898.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
贊成我們只是在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
9898.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
9900.66 |
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在法定刑要做一些限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
9900.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
9902.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
一些重罪的狀況之下你不可以把宣告刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
9902.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
9904.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
宣告到兩年以下還去簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
9904.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
9906.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
所以我們在宣告刑之後我們另外加一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
9906.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
9908.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
法定刑的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
9908.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
9910.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
特定重罪我們不要用這一套來簡化判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
9910.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
9912.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
9912.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
9914.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
其他比較輕罪你宣告兩年以下我們是贊成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
9914.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
9916.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
所以你認為說除了用刑期以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
9916.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
9918.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
還要再加一個法定刑的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
9918.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
9920.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
在特殊的重罪你不要用簡化判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
9920.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
9922.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
這部分我想司法院也不會反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
9922.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
9924.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
這個部分所以其實還 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
9924.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
9926.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
需要再協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
9926.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
9928.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
但是比較關鍵的剛剛次長所講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
9928.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
9930.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
比較關鍵的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
9930.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
9932.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
就是310條之二了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
9932.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
9934.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
你認為你不贊成都不寫判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
9934.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
9936.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
也就是說你們不贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
9936.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
9938.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
這個目前這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
9938.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
9940.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
司法院版本所提出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
9940.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
9942.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
9942.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
9944.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
所謂宣示判決筆錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
9945.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
9947.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
來取代判決書的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
9947.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
9949.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
宣示判決筆錄取代部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
9949.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
9951.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
你們的意見是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
9951.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
9953.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
你們的書面意見是說你們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
9954.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
9956.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
你因為用宣示判決筆錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
9956.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
9958.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
但是上訴之後你就要寫判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
9958.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
9960.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
所以大家我為了上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
9960.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
9962.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
所以我就會要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
9962.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
9964.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
我為了要沒有拿到判決書我就上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
9964.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
9966.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
所以會變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
9966.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
9968.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
實質上達不到簡化的效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
9968.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
9970.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
就會變成每一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
9970.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
9972.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
我要先做一個宣示判決筆錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
9972.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
9974.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
然後上訴上訴之後我再寫判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
9974.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
9976.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
會變成本來要簡化的變成反而變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
9976.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
9978.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
會送兩次他必須要重達一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
9978.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
9980.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
這個部分請司法院回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
9980.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
9982.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
這個部分請司法院回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
9982.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
9984.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
9984.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
9986.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
這樣會不會引起記者在寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
9986.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
9988.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
其實我覺得法務太輕忽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
9990.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
9992.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
請問法官呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
9992.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
9994.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
我們試一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
9994 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
9996 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
一個簡單的切到案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
9997.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
9999.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
量刑是拘役 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
9999.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
10001.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
事實被告認罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
10002.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
10004.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
然後對檢察官起訴的犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
10004.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
10006.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
事實沒有證詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
10007.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
10009.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
量刑也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
10010.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
10012.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
檢察官是你的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
10012.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
10014.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
你要去看這個量刑妥不妥適 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
10014.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
10016.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
不妥適 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
10016.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
10018.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
就要上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
10018.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
10020.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
我相信上訴率 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
10020.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
10022.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
我們剛報告過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
10022.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
10024.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
試用檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
10023.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
10025.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
程序上訴率低於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
10026.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
10028.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
量刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
10028.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
10030.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
10040.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
10042.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
10042.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
10044.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
為什麼我們一再呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
10044.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
10046.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
這個條文要拜託委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
10046.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
10048.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
因為只要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
10048.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
10050.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
我們現在是寫百分之百的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
10051.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
10053.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
上訴率只有兩成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
10053.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
10055.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
我們如果能夠只寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
10057.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
10059.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
百分之七十的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
10059.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
10061.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
我相信一定會有三成沒有上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
10061.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
10063.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
這真的是拜託委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
10063.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
10065.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
功德無量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
10065.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
10067.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
我了解了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
10067.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
10069.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
法務部也不是找你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
10069.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
10071.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
我要講這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
10069.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
10071.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
這個市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
10071.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
10073.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
我講市長還有話要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
10073.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
10075.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
低我的時間到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
10075.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
10077.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
我要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
10077.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
10079.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
上訴率低是因為你法院的判決理由充分記載了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
10079.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
10081.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
我才 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
10081.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
10083.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
檢察官甘願臣服了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
10083.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
10085.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
所以才不上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
10085.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
10087.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
你現在是完全不寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
10087.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
10089.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
我如從去審酌這個判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
10089.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
10091.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
我心服與否 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
10091.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
10093.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
第二個我們今天討論了很多被害人影響陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
10093.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
10095.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
很多委員都要求被害人的相關的陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
10095.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
10097.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
要記載在判決書裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
10097.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
10099.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
現在反而是判決書不記載 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
10100.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
10102.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
甚至可以沒有判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
10102.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
10104.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
甚至要簡化被害人相關影響的陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
10104.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
10106.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
這是不是跟我們今天討論的條文反而某個程度上是相憨格的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
10113.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
10115.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
不知道現在後面的同仁我佔到大家的時間了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
10117.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
10119.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
我認為一個被害人他必須做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
10120.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
10122.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
這個量刑的受害影響陳述 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
10122.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
10124.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
這絕對法官一定要寫判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
10126.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
10128.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
我相信這種案件不可能不寫判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
10128.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
10130.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
因為他不是如同我們講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
10133.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
10135.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
認罪又簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
10135.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
10137.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
其實各位可以去想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
10137.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
10139.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
我們這個社會上多少犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
10139.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
10141.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
是真的是很輕很輕的刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
10141.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
10143.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
可是法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
10143.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
10145.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
他花在這邊的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
10145.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
10147.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
他就是要花時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
10147.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
10149.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
所以我們只是緊緊要求沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
10150.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
10152.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
10152.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
10154.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
市長可能說以前有理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
10155.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
10157.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
可是如果一個卸到兩千塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].start |
10157.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].end |
10159.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].text |
那理由我看你也不會看吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
10159.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].end |
10161.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].text |
其實我們重要的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].start |
10161.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
10163.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
真的有這種輕刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
10163.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
10165.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
又認罪事實又簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
10165.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
10167.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
我們要不要花時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
10167.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
10169.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
拜託拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
10170.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
10172.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
我想這個司法院跟法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
10172.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].end |
10174.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
有一些部分是有共識的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
10174.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
10176.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
但是我要講的重點是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
10176.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].end |
10178.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].text |
今天我們在這邊談 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
10178.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].end |
10180.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
我要講的是要拜託我們召為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
10180.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
10182.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
這個司法院的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
10182.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
10184.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
目前會前行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
10184.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
10186.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
行政院一直遲遲沒有通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
10186.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
10188.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
不是因為帶墮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
10188.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
10190.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
而是就是這些爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
10190.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
10192.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
這些爭議卡在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
10192.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
10194.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
其實兩院正在密切的溝通當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
10194.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].end |
10196.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
那這個不只這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
10196.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
10198.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
有關被害人訴訟參與的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
10198.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
10200.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
去年九月就已經送到行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
10200.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
10202.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
到目前為止也還卡在行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
10202.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
10204.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
也不是因為行政院帶墮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
10204.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
10206.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
而是因為在這些法律見解上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
10206.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
10208.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
剛剛我們在看到他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
10208.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
10210.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
這樣子的說法其實都是有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
10210.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
10212.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
那有道理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
10212.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
10214.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
10215.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
10217.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
連我們這個審判機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
10217.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
10219.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
跟這個檢察單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
10219.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
10221.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
都還沒有辦法達成共識的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
10221.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
10223.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
我們立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
10223.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
10225.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
來做決定說那我們覺得怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
10225.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
10227.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
我是覺得不太妥當 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
10227.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
10229.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
所以我是覺得說我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
10229.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
10231.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
真的要來審查這個條文的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
10231.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
10233.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
我們真的要給他們時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
10233.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
10235.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
給司法院給法務部時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
10235.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
10237.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
就這樣子的旗艦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
10237.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
10239.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
來做一些溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
10239.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
10241.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
設計出一個真的能夠簡化判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
10241.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
10243.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
又能夠保障權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
10243.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
10245.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
這些訴訟多於負擔的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
10249.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
10251.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
還要再講嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
10251.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
10253.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
真的要拜託法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
10253.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
10255.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
其實可以註記意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
10255.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
10257.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
其實註記意見送出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
10257.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
10259.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
好 立法長你要拜託法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
10259.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
10261.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
不是在我立法院拜託法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
10261.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
10263.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
請你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
10263.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
10265.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
在密切跟行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
10265.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
10267.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
來做這些溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
10267.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
10269.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
有必要的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
10269.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
10271.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
我們就還是讓公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
10271.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
10273.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
法界人士來參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
10273.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
10275.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
食物界人士大家來參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
10275.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
10277.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
來看看實際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
10277.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
10279.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
這個我們司法院做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
10279.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
10281.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
這個主張比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
10281.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
10283.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
有利於判決簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
10283.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
10285.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
跟人民權益的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
10285.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
10287.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
還是法務部這個我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
10287.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
10289.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
我們有必要的話這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
10289.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
10291.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
而不是在立法院這邊溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
10291.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
10293.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
我今天是很不得已讓你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
10293.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
10295.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
我所知道的你們意見不同的旗艦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
10295.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
10297.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
在這裡讓大家知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
10297.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
10299.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
為什麼這個案子在行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
10297.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
10299.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
送到行政院會前這麼久還沒有出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
10299.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
10301.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
絕對不是因為怠惰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
10301.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
10303.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
10304.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
10306.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
謝謝審法會委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
10306.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
10308.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
職業詢答非常有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
10308.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
10310.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
因為真的可以就是將 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
10310.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
10312.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
一個法案它可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
10312.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
10314.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
呈現了有三方不同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
10314.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
10316.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
見解司法院法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
10316.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
10318.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
甚至立法委員這裡的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
10318.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
10320.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
大家不同的法律見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
10320.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
10322.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
都多餘的呈現而且彼此互相的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
10322.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
10324.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
來把自己的理由說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
10324.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
10326.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
非常有價值不過我一直還是認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
10326.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
10328.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
說這個會先制度其實存在一些問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
10328.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
10330.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
因為其實刑事訴訟法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
10330.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
10332.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
主管機關是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
10332.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
10334.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
主管機關是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
10334.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
10336.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
司法院那既然會前法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
10336.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
10338.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
那是會前行政院法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
10338.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
10340.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
有意見那其實法務部就也提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
10340.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
10342.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
自己的版本也沒有說是禁止 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
10342.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
10344.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
刑事訴訟法你們不能提 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
10344.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
10346.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
對岸可以吧應該是可以的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
10346.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
10348.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
對那這樣的話就是不要再去阻擋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
10348.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
10350.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
司法院的版本就是大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
10350.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
10352.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
的版本全部都進來立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
10352.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
10354.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
一起充分討論我覺得是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
10354.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
10356.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
更好否則用技術性的這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
10356.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
10358.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
杯葛去壓著司法院的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
10358.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
10360.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
其實真的不是那麼妥當 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
10360.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
10362.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
以上本席的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
10362.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
10364.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
那接下來我們就有請周瑞雄委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
10364.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
10366.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].text |
來進行發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
10367.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
10371.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
抱歉抱歉剛剛是說要先休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
10372.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
10374.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].text |
抱歉抱歉對不起我剛剛疏忽了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].start |
10374.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].end |
10376.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].text |
好那我們就先休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].start |
10376.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].end |
10378.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].text |
對不起好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].start |
10378.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].end |
10380.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].start |
10381.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].end |
10383.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].start |
10382.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].end |
10384.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].start |
10731 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].end |
10735 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].text |
好接下來我們有請周瑞雄委員來進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].start |
10735.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].end |
10737.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].start |
10744.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].end |
10746.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].text |
好謝謝主席有請我們司法院高秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].start |
10746.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
10748.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].text |
好有請高秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].start |
10748.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].end |
10750.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].text |
還有刑事廳許廳長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].start |
10750.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].end |
10752.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].text |
好請許廳長法務部我們黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
10752.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].end |
10754.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].text |
好黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].start |
10755.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].end |
10757.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].start |
10758.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].end |
10762.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].text |
秘書長好我看剛剛審判委員的質詢很精彩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].start |
10762.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
10767.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
司法院跟法務部各自講出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].start |
10767.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
10770.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
自己的看法還有擔憂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
10770.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
10772.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
這個其實都是好事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
10772.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
10774.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
高秘書長有一個好處 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].start |
10774.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
10778.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
在講一些民眾聽得懂的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
10778.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
10780.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
這個是好事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
10780.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
10782.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
我看你們的對話裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
10782.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
10784.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
其實我發現問題的一個爭點在什麼地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].start |
10784.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
10788.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
這一次我們說要讓司法官來做一個檢壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].start |
10788.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].end |
10792.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].text |
其實要讓民眾去認清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].start |
10792.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].end |
10794.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].text |
讓民眾很清楚的了解說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].start |
10794.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].end |
10796.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].text |
我們簡化的是判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].start |
10796.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].end |
10798.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].text |
我們不是在簡化這個品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].start |
10798.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].end |
10800.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].text |
你說要減少的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].start |
10800.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].end |
10804.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
我是要減少這個文書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].start |
10804.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].end |
10806.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].text |
我不是要減少老百姓的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].start |
10806.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].end |
10808.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].text |
這個如果定調清楚的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].start |
10808.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].end |
10812.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
那我會覺得你跟黃次長大家的想法其實都是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].start |
10812.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].end |
10814.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].text |
那我是覺得比較奇怪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].start |
10814.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].end |
10818.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].text |
我本期發現一個比較奇怪的一個現象就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].start |
10818.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].end |
10820.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].text |
我們一直在說法官過勞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].start |
10820.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].end |
10822.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].text |
覺得案件太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].start |
10822.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].end |
10826.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].text |
判決書怎麼審都審不完 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].start |
10826.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].end |
10828.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].text |
其實在我們刑事訴訟法310條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].start |
10828.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].end |
10830.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].text |
我看1990年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].start |
10830.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].end |
10832.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].text |
那個時候就已經針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].start |
10832.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].end |
10834.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].text |
這個整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].start |
10837.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].end |
10841.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].text |
在那個經過這個部分的一個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].start |
10841.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].end |
10843.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].text |
我們就本來就可以去簡化判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].start |
10843.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].end |
10845.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
那在2004年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
10845.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].end |
10847.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].text |
再去簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].start |
10847.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].end |
10849.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
2004年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
10849.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].end |
10851.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
證據原則上連內容都不用全部重寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].start |
10851.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].end |
10853.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
證據名稱下下都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].start |
10853.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].end |
10855.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
我看2000 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].start |
10856.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
10858.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
2017年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
10858.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].end |
10860.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
司法的國是會議裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].start |
10860.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
10862.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
我看到最後你們在這一本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
10862.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
10864.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
我今天中間拿一本來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].start |
10864.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].end |
10866.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
一本裁判書類簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
10866.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].end |
10868.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
跟通俗化推動要人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].start |
10868.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].end |
10870.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
這2000年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
10870.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
10872.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
你們只對2017年那個司法國是會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
10872.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
10874.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
你們到最後還編了一本書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
10874.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
10876.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
我是覺得很可惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
10876.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].end |
10878.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
就是說這個制度講了三十幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
10878.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
10880.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
本來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].start |
10880.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].end |
10882.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
你可以去簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
10882.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
10884.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
也不是強制法官你去簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
10884.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].end |
10886.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
法律問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
10886.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
10888.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
很複雜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].start |
10888.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
10890.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
還是說社會高度爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
10890.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].end |
10892.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
10892.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].end |
10894.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
或者法官我認為說這個法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].start |
10894.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
10896.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
見解我覺得我還要向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].start |
10896.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
10898.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
更清楚的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].start |
10899.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].end |
10901.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
也沒有人限制你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].start |
10901.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
10903.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
本席真的發現一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
10903.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
10905.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
假設 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
10904.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
10906.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
假設大家都考上司法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
10906.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
10908.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
我們先去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
10908.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
10910.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].text |
候補 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
10910.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
10912.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
世俗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
10912.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
10914.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
到最後這樣一個一個起來後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].start |
10914.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].end |
10916.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
假設我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].start |
10915.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
10917.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].text |
這個判決給我的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].start |
10917.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
10919.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].text |
我寫實驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
10918.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
10920.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
我們大家都寫實驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
10921.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].end |
10923.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].text |
黃魔信法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].start |
10925.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
10927.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].text |
高秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].start |
10927.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
10929.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
你如果我們都做法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].start |
10929.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].end |
10931.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].text |
你說我寫兩頁你覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].start |
10932.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].end |
10934.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].text |
有法律授權都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].start |
10934.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].end |
10936.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].text |
你得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].start |
10936.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].end |
10938.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].text |
重點就是你們那個文化就讓我們三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].start |
10938.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].end |
10940.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].text |
我們都當法官的我們會怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].start |
10940.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].end |
10942.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].text |
我說我這樣寫下去後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].start |
10942.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].end |
10944.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].text |
黃魔信說裝得最差差一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].start |
10944.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].end |
10946.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].text |
我寫三頁就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].start |
10946.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].end |
10948.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].text |
高秘書長你覺得我沒有寫一頁就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].start |
10948.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].end |
10950.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].start |
10950.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].end |
10952.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].text |
你第一個你們這個文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].start |
10952.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].end |
10954.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].text |
我這樣寫的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].start |
10954.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].end |
10956.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].text |
我到最後會不會被人家講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].start |
10956.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].end |
10958.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].text |
我第一個我偷懶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].start |
10958.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].end |
10960.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].text |
或者說你們內部有考核啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].start |
10961.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].end |
10963.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].text |
還有維持率的問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].start |
10963.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].end |
10965.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].text |
所以說你這個文化沒有去改變的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].start |
10967.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].end |
10969.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].text |
所以我聽了你們兩個的對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].start |
10969.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].end |
10971.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].text |
我會認為很有價值的地方就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].start |
10971.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].end |
10973.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].text |
這就是說你們內部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].start |
10973.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].end |
10975.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].text |
如果法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].start |
10975.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].end |
10977.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].text |
這個自己本身那個心魔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].start |
10977.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].end |
10979.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].text |
沒有拿掉的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].start |
10979.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].end |
10981.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].text |
我看你這個要推動都很困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].start |
10981.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].end |
10983.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].text |
不然不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].start |
10983.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].end |
10985.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].text |
講了三十幾年的制度了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].start |
10985.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].end |
10987.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].text |
大家一直在講減壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].start |
10987.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].end |
10989.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].text |
我覺得核心問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].start |
10989.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].end |
10991.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].text |
我覺得許廷長你也很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].start |
10991.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].end |
10993.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].text |
你做到聽到我跟秘書長都為己詹 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].start |
10993.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].end |
10995.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].text |
這樣起來後你也煩惱後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].start |
10995.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].end |
10997.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].text |
我這樣寫下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].start |
10997.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].end |
10999.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].text |
你會擔心到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].start |
10999.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].end |
11001.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].text |
說哎呦那個法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].start |
11001.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].end |
11003.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].text |
檢察官沒有尊重我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].start |
11003.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].end |
11005.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].text |
輕忽你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].start |
11005.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].end |
11007.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].text |
你就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].start |
11007.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].end |
11009.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].text |
有這個牢騷 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].start |
11009.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].end |
11011.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].text |
有這個苦水會跑出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].start |
11011.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].end |
11013.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].text |
所以說現在我們說要把 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].start |
11013.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].end |
11015.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].text |
這個六個月的你說要把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].start |
11015.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].end |
11017.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].text |
做兩年可以減壓的我告訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].start |
11018.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].end |
11020.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].text |
法務部跟司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].start |
11020.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].end |
11022.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].text |
司法法制委員會就是立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].start |
11022.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].end |
11024.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].text |
他有第一次不跟我們一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].start |
11024.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].end |
11026.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].text |
這司改了哪一次沒有去支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].start |
11026.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].end |
11028.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].text |
立法院會吵吵鬧鬧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].start |
11028.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].end |
11030.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].text |
會有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].start |
11030.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].end |
11032.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].text |
又有政治嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].start |
11032.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].end |
11034.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].text |
可是政政你制度要去往前走的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].start |
11035.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].end |
11037.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].text |
我看不管誰執政喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].start |
11037.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].end |
11039.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].text |
在立法院大家是給你們支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].start |
11039.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].end |
11041.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].text |
所以這個問題出在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].start |
11041.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].end |
11043.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].text |
出在你們內部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].start |
11042.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].end |
11044.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].text |
我不知道秘書理由你的看法是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].start |
11044.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].end |
11046.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].text |
不要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].start |
11046.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].end |
11048.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].text |
一個制度下去後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].start |
11048.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].end |
11050.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].text |
煩惱外界跟你說偷懶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].start |
11050.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].end |
11052.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].text |
你也不用怕人家說偷懶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].start |
11052.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].end |
11054.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].text |
立法院哪有法律的明文規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].start |
11054.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].end |
11056.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].text |
這樣就可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].start |
11056.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].end |
11058.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].text |
也沒有人強制說你一定要去簡化啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].start |
11058.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].end |
11060.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].text |
複雜的問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].start |
11060.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].end |
11062.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].text |
社會高度正義的問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].start |
11062.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].end |
11064.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].text |
你本來就是個好可以給他交代清楚的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].start |
11064.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].end |
11066.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].text |
所以我都覺得是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].start |
11066.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].end |
11068.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].text |
出在你們內部考核的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].start |
11068.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].end |
11070.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].text |
考核你們怕人家說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].start |
11070.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].end |
11072.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].text |
第二怕維持率的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].start |
11072.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].end |
11074.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].text |
我醫生一個法官每次寫一寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].start |
11074.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].end |
11076.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].text |
我都把他檢視判決寫完以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].start |
11076.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].end |
11078.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].text |
我到二審全部都被撤銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].start |
11078.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].end |
11080.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].text |
以後也沒人像這樣寫你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].start |
11081.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].end |
11083.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].start |
11083.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].end |
11085.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].text |
秘書理由你的看法是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].start |
11085.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].end |
11087.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].text |
其實委員指導重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].start |
11088.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].end |
11092.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].text |
一位法官他對自己要求就認可 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].start |
11093.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].end |
11097.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].text |
當我們法律規定他要寫判決的時候沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].start |
11097.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].end |
11099.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].text |
310之1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].start |
11099.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].end |
11101.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].text |
他可以簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].start |
11101.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].end |
11103.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].text |
可是在簡化的論述中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].start |
11104.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].end |
11106.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].text |
他對於自我要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].start |
11106.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].end |
11108.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].text |
他會闡述的很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].start |
11108.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].end |
11110.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].text |
其實這個就是為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].start |
11110.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].end |
11112.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].text |
310之1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].start |
11112.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].end |
11114.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].text |
就像剛剛委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].start |
11114.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].end |
11116.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].text |
從民國幾年到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].start |
11116.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].end |
11118.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].text |
司法院也一直鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].start |
11118.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].end |
11120.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].text |
一直鼓勵一直鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].start |
11120.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].end |
11122.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].text |
為什麼沒辦法發揮一定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].start |
11123.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].end |
11125.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].text |
讓法官檢壓的效用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].start |
11125.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].end |
11127.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].text |
那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].start |
11127.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].end |
11129.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].text |
我們為什麼會有310之2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].start |
11129.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].end |
11131.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].text |
這次希望能夠提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].start |
11131.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].end |
11133.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].text |
就是說我們對於這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].start |
11135.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].end |
11137.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].text |
爭執性很低的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].start |
11137.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].end |
11139.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].text |
是不是讓法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].start |
11139.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].end |
11141.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].text |
他就寫清楚犯罪事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].start |
11141.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].end |
11143.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].text |
跟犯罪法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].start |
11143.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].end |
11145.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].text |
真的一位法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].start |
11145.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].end |
11147.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].text |
他自我要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].start |
11147.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].end |
11149.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].text |
大部分絕大部分法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].start |
11149.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].end |
11151.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].text |
自我要求太高了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].start |
11151.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].end |
11153.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].text |
同儕之間的議論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].start |
11153.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].end |
11155.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].text |
他也會聽在耳朵裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].start |
11155.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].end |
11157.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].text |
所以我們必須要釜底酬刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].start |
11157.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].end |
11159.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].text |
因為310之1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].start |
11159.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].end |
11161.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].text |
這種真的如委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].start |
11161.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].end |
11163.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].text |
民國幾年講到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].start |
11163.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].end |
11165.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].text |
為什麼沒有發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].start |
11165.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].end |
11167.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].text |
法官還在暗讀勞刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].start |
11167.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].end |
11169.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].text |
還在寫判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].start |
11169.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].end |
11171.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].text |
花這麼多時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].start |
11171.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].end |
11173.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].text |
也是我們一直在檢討的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].start |
11173.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].end |
11175.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].text |
所以我們才說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].start |
11175.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].end |
11177.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].text |
如從這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].start |
11177.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].end |
11179.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].text |
上訴率 維持率來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].start |
11179.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].end |
11181.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].text |
我們是不是再找出一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].start |
11181.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].end |
11183.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].text |
更好的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].start |
11183.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].end |
11185.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].text |
讓法官他就把精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].start |
11185.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].end |
11187.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
維持在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].start |
11188.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].end |
11190.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].text |
一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].start |
11189.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].end |
11191.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].text |
裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].start |
11191.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].end |
11193.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].text |
這個是我們這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].start |
11193.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].end |
11195.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].text |
委員願意做這樣修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].start |
11195.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].end |
11197.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].text |
真的非常感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].start |
11197.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].end |
11199.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].text |
你說一個法官你怎麼去檢閱 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].start |
11199.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].end |
11201.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].text |
你到最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].start |
11202.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].end |
11204.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].text |
你那個判決指紋你一定要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].start |
11204.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].end |
11206.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].text |
你也一定要交代犯罪事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].start |
11206.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].end |
11208.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].text |
你說這個犯罪事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].start |
11208.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].end |
11210.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].text |
我也一定要有見證 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].start |
11210.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].end |
11212.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].text |
我法官也要跟你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].start |
11212.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].end |
11214.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].text |
對你有利的為什麼不採 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].start |
11214.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].end |
11216.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].text |
這都要講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].start |
11216.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].end |
11218.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].text |
對當事人權益的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].start |
11218.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].end |
11220.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].text |
但是你剛才說法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].start |
11220.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].end |
11222.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].text |
由於你現在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].start |
11222.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].end |
11224.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].text |
現在我們親夫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].start |
11224.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].end |
11226.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].text |
司法院法官你剛才說的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].start |
11226.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].end |
11228.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].text |
你們的什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].start |
11228.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].end |
11230.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].text |
我沒有說他親夫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].start |
11230.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].end |
11232.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].text |
有啦你剛才說法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].start |
11232.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].end |
11234.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].text |
我沒有講法務部親夫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].start |
11234.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].end |
11236.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].text |
我只是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].start |
11236.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].end |
11238.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].text |
在我們講310-2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].start |
11238.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].end |
11240.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].text |
現在講-2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].start |
11240.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].end |
11242.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].text |
你跟裁判法務部檢察官應該跟裁判 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].start |
11242.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].end |
11244.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].text |
也要跟裁判 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].start |
11244.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].end |
11246.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].text |
人家說你不對人家跟裁判也應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].start |
11246.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].end |
11248.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].text |
我沒有做這樣的批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].start |
11248.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].end |
11250.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].text |
你舉個實例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].start |
11250.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].end |
11252.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].text |
你剛才講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].start |
11252.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].end |
11254.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].text |
你為什麼對檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].start |
11254.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].end |
11256.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].text |
你會認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].start |
11256.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].end |
11258.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].text |
我看你剛對檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].start |
11258.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].end |
11260.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].text |
也有一點抱怨 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].start |
11260.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].end |
11262.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].text |
舉個實例好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].start |
11262.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].end |
11264.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].text |
很清楚的實例讓社會知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].start |
11263.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].end |
11265.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].text |
我對檢察官沒有抱怨喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].start |
11265.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].end |
11267.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].text |
我只是抱怨說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].start |
11267.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].end |
11269.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].text |
他們不同意我們310-2而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].start |
11270.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].end |
11272.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].text |
我沒有對檢察官沒有抱怨喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].start |
11272.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].end |
11274.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].text |
你的意思就是在這個地方就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].start |
11274.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].end |
11276.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].text |
其實喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].start |
11276.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].end |
11278.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].text |
我一直這樣感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].start |
11279.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].end |
11281.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].start |
11281.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].end |
11283.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].text |
我們這不是要全部去要求法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].start |
11283.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].end |
11285.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].text |
全部都強制你一定要去簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].start |
11285.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].end |
11287.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].text |
沒有也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].start |
11287.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].end |
11289.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].text |
讓你都要有一點重複 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].start |
11289.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].end |
11291.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].text |
你如果被告認罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].start |
11291.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].end |
11293.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].text |
該存在的判決長成怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].start |
11293.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].end |
11295.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].text |
還是不能免 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].start |
11295.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].end |
11297.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].text |
但是有一個地方我必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].start |
11297.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].end |
11299.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].text |
我覺得我簡單這樣講好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].start |
11299.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].end |
11301.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].text |
你現在說宣誓判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].start |
11301.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].end |
11303.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].text |
筆錄你可以去推 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].start |
11303.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].end |
11305.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].text |
大家也覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].start |
11305.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].end |
11307.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].text |
你要做這個簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].start |
11307.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].end |
11309.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].text |
但是你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].start |
11309.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].end |
11311.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].text |
這個判決裡面你最主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].start |
11311.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].end |
11313.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].text |
要讓老百姓知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].start |
11313.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].end |
11315.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].text |
被判刑的人說我是怎樣去用判罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].start |
11315.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].end |
11317.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].text |
這個我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].start |
11317.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].end |
11319.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].text |
這個很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].start |
11319.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].end |
11321.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].text |
你現在是把它你這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].start |
11321.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].end |
11323.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].text |
我認為我們都可以來做一個支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].start |
11323.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].end |
11325.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].text |
尤其是主要沒有爭議的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].start |
11325.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].end |
11327.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].text |
你說叫法官浪費一大堆時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].start |
11327.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].end |
11329.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].text |
再寫一大本的判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].start |
11329.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].end |
11331.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].text |
這個也很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].start |
11331.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].end |
11333.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].start |
11333.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].end |
11335.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].text |
浪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].start |
11334.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].end |
11336.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].text |
一個法官的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].start |
11336.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].end |
11338.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].text |
讓被告知道說你為什麼判我 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].start |
11338.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].end |
11340.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].text |
這個是一個好事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].start |
11340.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].end |
11342.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].text |
但是我還有一個問題要去提問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].start |
11342.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].end |
11344.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].text |
就是說我感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].start |
11344.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].end |
11346.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].text |
比較重要的是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].start |
11346.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].end |
11348.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].text |
你不如現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].start |
11348.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].end |
11350.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].text |
你去把我們現在的犯例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].start |
11350.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].end |
11352.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].text |
給老百姓看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].start |
11352.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].end |
11354.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].text |
我現在判決書寫成這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].start |
11354.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].end |
11356.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].text |
我如果變 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].start |
11356.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].end |
11358.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].text |
我如果變來我要簡化後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].start |
11358.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].end |
11360.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].text |
我會生做怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].start |
11360.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].end |
11362.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].text |
兩個來做比較有一個比較組 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].start |
11362.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].end |
11364.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].text |
知道說我們議會要怎樣演變 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].start |
11364.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].end |
11366.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].text |
比較不用像你現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].start |
11366.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].end |
11368.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].text |
大家在這裡對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].start |
11368.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].end |
11370.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].text |
你說說其實我覺得你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].start |
11370.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].end |
11372.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].text |
剛才我的感受啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].start |
11372.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].end |
11374.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].text |
你是有點怨檢察官啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].start |
11374.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].end |
11376.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].text |
你現在說沒有也好事啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].start |
11376.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].end |
11378.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].text |
代表經過休息五分鐘你們有溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].start |
11378.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].end |
11380.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].text |
或者是這個心悔神靈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].start |
11380.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].end |
11382.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].text |
大家都有意感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].start |
11382.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].end |
11384.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].text |
意思其實是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].start |
11384.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].end |
11386.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].text |
這也很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].start |
11386.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].end |
11388.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].text |
但是你簡化完以後就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].start |
11388.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].end |
11390.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].text |
比如說現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].start |
11390.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].end |
11392.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].text |
給我簡化後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].start |
11392.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].end |
11394.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].text |
讓老百姓知道說你又來這個判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].start |
11394.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].end |
11396.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].text |
我省掉哪一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].start |
11396.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].end |
11398.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].text |
第一個我省掉哪一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].start |
11398.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].end |
11400.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].text |
哪一些呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].start |
11400.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].end |
11402.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].text |
可以省 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].start |
11401.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].end |
11403.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].text |
如果我被告我不服的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].start |
11403.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].end |
11405.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].text |
我可以這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].start |
11405.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].end |
11407.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].text |
我可以這樣要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].start |
11407.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
11409.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
比較完整的一個判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].start |
11409.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
11411.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
我要上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].start |
11411.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
11413.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].start |
11412.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
11414.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
我要怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].start |
11414.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
11416.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
我覺得兩份來做一個比較會長成什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].start |
11416.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
11418.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
比現在我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].start |
11418.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
11420.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
光文字啊條文啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].start |
11420.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
11422.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
這樣來做大家在這個地方討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].start |
11422.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
11424.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
會更有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].start |
11424.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].end |
11426.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
我不知道你的意見是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].start |
11426.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
11428.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
就我這個宣誓判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].start |
11428.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
11430.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
比如我今年要三個月這樣好很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].start |
11430.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].end |
11432.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
就我現在判決我現在是怎樣 |
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11432.34 |
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我改革過後 |
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11434.34 |
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11436.34 |
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我都通過後以後的 |
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11435.86 |
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11437.86 |
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判決書也寫這案狀 |
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11437.86 |
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11439.86 |
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這個很合理吧 |
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11439.86 |
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11441.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
跟委員報告 |
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11441.86 |
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11443.86 |
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因為我們現在的判決 |
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對於被告的證據 |
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11445.86 |
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11447.86 |
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那一段論述 |
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11447.86 |
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11449.86 |
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會寫很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].start |
11449.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
11451.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
我們現在將來宣誓判決筆錄 |
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11451.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
11453.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
他能夠這樣做第一個 |
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11453.86 |
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11455.86 |
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一定要被告認罪 |
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11455.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
11457.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
然後一定有是三年以下刑期的 |
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11457.86 |
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11459.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
然後宣誓判決 |
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11459.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
11461.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
犯罪事實一定要寫清楚 |
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11461.86 |
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11463.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
因為這會跟 |
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11463.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
11465.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
寄判令有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].start |
11465.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
11467.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
那再過來因為他認罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
11467.29 |
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11469.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
所以再過來就是他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
11469.29 |
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11471.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
犯罪法條要清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
11472.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
11474.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
抱歉抱歉抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
11474.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
11476.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
我看完莫先生這樣一直搖頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
11476.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
11478.31 |
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請黃市長講一下你的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
11478.31 |
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11480.31 |
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沒有這個好事啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
11480.31 |
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11482.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
我覺得大家不同的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
11482.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
11484.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
跟擔憂拿出來講非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
11484.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
11486.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
11486.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
11488.31 |
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他現在的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
11488.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
11490.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
他現在是要擴張到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
11490.2 |
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11492.2 |
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最重五年以上的這種罪 |
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11492.2 |
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11494.2 |
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以外的罪 |
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11494.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
11496.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
除了最輕本刑五年以上的這種罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
11496.2 |
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11498.2 |
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不是用出來 |
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11498.2 |
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11500.2 |
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其他的所有犯罪都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
11500.2 |
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11502.2 |
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用這個筆錄來代替判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
11502.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
11504.2 |
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所以我們幾乎所有 |
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11504.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
11506.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
很大宗的刑事案件裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
11506.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
11508.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
都有可能會再遛入這個 |
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11508.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
11510.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
用筆錄來代替判決的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
11512.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
11514.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
所以你的反對是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
11514.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
11516.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
那會變成就是說 |
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11516.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
11518.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
他這沒有判決書嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
11518.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
11520.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
變成兩階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
11520.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
11522.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
第一階段是只有筆錄代替判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
11522.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
11524.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
那我講法官我不知道該不該上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
11524.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
11526.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
他理由是什麼其實我不是很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
11526.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
11528.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
或者是被害人他要請求 |
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11528.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
11530.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
講法官上訴被害人也不清楚 |
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11530.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
11532.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
所以只有當我們不服的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
11532.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
11534.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
他再補送判決書 |
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11534.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
11536.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
所以他是兩階段的 |
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11536.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
11538.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
在這個狀態在兩階段的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
11538.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
11540.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
所以我們在講就是說這兩階段 |
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11540.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
11542.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
反而更造成我們實務上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
11542.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
11544.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
一些繁瑣程序上的重複 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
11544.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
11546.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
這樣很麻煩耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
11546.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
11548.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
一個司法改革裡面 |
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11548.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
11550.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
11550.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
11552.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
要願跟檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
11552.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
11554.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
一項關正常犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
11554.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
11556.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
法院來做實體的一個審判 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
11556.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
11558.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
你們兩個法務部的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
11558.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
11560.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
跟司法院的代表你們的看法不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
11560.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
11562.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
不一樣你說我們要支持你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
11562.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
11564.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
方向走下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
11564.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
11566.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
所以我還是在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
11566.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
11568.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
本來我以為只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
11568.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
11570.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
司法院裡面內部的一個文化的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
11570.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
11572.59 |
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就是說法律明文 |
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11572.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
11574.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
這樣授權給你可以去簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
11574.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
11576.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
你不敢用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
11576.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
11578.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
我看別人寫十頁我不敢寫三頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
11578.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
11580.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
我不敢寫兩頁因為涉及到考評 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
11580.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
11582.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
然後呢我如果真的這樣去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
11582.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
11584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
寫下去了以後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
11584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
11586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
涉及到檢察官一看到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
11586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
11588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
你怎麼變這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
11588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
11590.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
我到底要上訴還是不上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
11590.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
11592.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
不如都上訴他要沒用嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
11592.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
11594.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
最後就變成你們內部文化的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
11594.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
11596.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
司法院也有內部文化的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
11596.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
11598.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
那變成檢察官都說我無所遞從 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
11598.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
11600.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
我無所適從我不知道要怎麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
11600.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
11602.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
我看法院都不清不楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
11602.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
11604.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
你的判決書沒有交代啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
11604.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
11606.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
所以我最保險起見我檢察官每一個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
11606.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
11608.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
你只要一下來我全部都上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
11608.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
11610.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
我們就達不到這樣的一個目的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].start |
11613.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
11615.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
黃某省搖頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
11615.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
11617.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
黃某省說你搖頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
11617.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
11619.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
我說什麼你搖頭這樣我們才有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
11619.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
11621.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
要怎麼來請說來請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
11623.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
11625.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
11624.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
11626.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
判決筆錄犯罪事實一定是明確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
11626.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
11628.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
那一定有的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
11628.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
11630.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
一定有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
11630.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
11632.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
被告是認罪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
11632.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
11634.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
然後在整個審判程序中 |
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11634.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
11636.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].text |
檢察官是參與的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
11637.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].end |
11639.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].text |
不是只有被告跟法官啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].start |
11639.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].end |
11641.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].text |
檢察官是有參與啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].start |
11641.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].end |
11643.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].text |
你對整個陳述的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].start |
11644.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].end |
11646.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].text |
檢察官是知道的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].start |
11646.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].end |
11648.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].text |
那現在檢察官的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].start |
11648.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].end |
11650.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].text |
檢察官可能也要看就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].start |
11650.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].end |
11652.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].text |
檢察官是有參與但是他要知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].start |
11652.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].end |
11654.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].text |
你這個判決書是怎麼做出來的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].start |
11654.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].end |
11658.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].text |
所以說一定是檢察官起訴的犯罪事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].start |
11659.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].end |
11661.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].text |
被告要認罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].start |
11661.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].end |
11663.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
就這麼簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].start |
11663.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].end |
11667.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].text |
你如果藤生什麼另外追加上不在檢察官起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].start |
11667.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].end |
11669.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].text |
檢察官會產生疑惑的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
11670.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].end |
11672.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].text |
不可能法官會做這種判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
11672.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].end |
11674.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].text |
黃市長再搖頭啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].start |
11676.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].end |
11678.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].text |
這個檢視判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].start |
11678.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].end |
11680.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].text |
我們現在事實上有罪前提沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
11680.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].end |
11682.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].text |
但是他不需要經過當事人的同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
11682.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].end |
11684.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].text |
換句話說法官他可以在檢察官不同意狀況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
11684.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].end |
11686.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
被告認罪他可以下解釋判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].start |
11686.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].end |
11688.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
下解釋判決連動到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
11688.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].end |
11690.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
暫時免寫判決的狀況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
11690.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
11692.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].text |
檢察官他也許不同意做檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
11692.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].end |
11694.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
那我就上訴嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
11694.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
11696.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].text |
我就先上訴再說嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
11696.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].end |
11698.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
因為我看不到判決書啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
11697.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
11699.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
會有這個狀況產生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
11699.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
11701.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
因為他不需要檢察官當事人的同意喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
11701.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
11703.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].text |
他跟協商判決不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
11703.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].end |
11705.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].text |
協商判決基本上是雙方當事人同意了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
11705.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].end |
11707.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
經過協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
11707.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].end |
11709.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
那是檢察官同意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
11709.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].end |
11711.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
檢視判決本身不需要檢察官同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
11711.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].end |
11713.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
法官就直接下檢視判決了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
11715.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].end |
11717.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].start |
11717.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].end |
11719.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].text |
我時間到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].start |
11719.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].end |
11721.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].text |
我們要來跟你們一起辭了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
11721.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].end |
11723.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
司法改革我們都跟你們一起辭了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
11723.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].end |
11725.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].text |
現在問題是說你司法年現在跟法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
11725.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].end |
11727.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
跟你們的意見分歧呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
11727.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
11729.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].text |
可是跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
11729.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].end |
11731.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
委員也很了解在刑事案件裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
11731.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].end |
11733.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
哪些是小案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
11733.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].end |
11735.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
小案件的部分我們還是在寫判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
11735.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].end |
11737.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].text |
其實剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
11737.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].end |
11739.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].text |
次長講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].start |
11739.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
11741.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
其實對一個稍微複雜的法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].start |
11741.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
11743.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
要用這個可能性會很低 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
11745.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
11747.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
好我們現在來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
11747.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
11749.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
其實我們大部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
11748.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
11750.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
那個刑事案件小案件占很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
11750.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
11752.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
我們從上訴率來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
11752.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].end |
11754.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].text |
就可以知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
11754.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
11756.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
其實我們只是要減省 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
11756.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
11758.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].text |
被告認罪犯罪事實可以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
11759.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].end |
11761.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].text |
將來看他的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
11761.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].end |
11763.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].text |
他絕對不會是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
11763.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
11765.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].text |
連稍微複雜的犯罪事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
11765.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
11767.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
都不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
11767.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
11769.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
一定是簡單的犯罪事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
11769.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
11771.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
這樣我聽到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
11771.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
11773.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
你還在講的時候在闡述你的看法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
11773.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
11775.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
黃次長也搖頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
11775.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
11777.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
不是說他完全把你否定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
11777.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
11779.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
他有他的一個擔憂存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
11779.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
11781.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
立法院是一個民意機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
11781.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
11783.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
立法院其實我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
11783.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
11785.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
你們司法改革方向我們去做支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
11785.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
11787.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
可是以司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
11787.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
11789.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
跟法務部這樣的一個對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
11789.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
11791.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
互相沒有辦法達到一個共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
11791.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
11793.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
在這種情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
11793.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
11795.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
哪怕是一個被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
11795.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
11797.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
被告不是只有他的人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
11797.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
11799.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
外面廠長還有一個叫做告訴人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
11799.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
11801.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].text |
這樣涉及到人民權益的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
11802.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
11804.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].text |
我們立法機關也擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
11804.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].end |
11806.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].text |
當事人的權益或者說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
11806.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
11808.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].text |
一般老百姓的權益受損 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
11808.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
11810.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].text |
所以你們說好再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
11810.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].end |
11812.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
OK好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
11813.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
11815.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
好謝謝莊委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
11815.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
11817.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].text |
我看起來就是司法院跟法務部好像很難談好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
11817.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].end |
11819.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].start |
11819.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].end |
11821.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
是建議要不然就提出A板B板吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
11821.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
11823.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
如果是這樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
11823.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].end |
11825.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].text |
可能我們至少在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
11826.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
11828.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
我們司委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
11828.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
11830.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
我們對於各不同的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
11830.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
11832.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
我們就可以加速推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
11832.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
11834.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].text |
希望在下個會期之前一定要能夠看得到兩院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
11834.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
11836.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].text |
今天送出去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
11836.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
11838.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].text |
好的那我們就先處理會議時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
11838.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].end |
11840.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].text |
上午會議時間繼續進行到所有登記發言委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
11840.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].end |
11842.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].text |
都尋答結束為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].start |
11842.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].end |
11844.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].text |
那接下來我們就有請王世堅委員來進行尋答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
11857.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].end |
11859.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
11858.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].end |
11860.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].text |
謝謝主席我請司法院高秘書長法務部黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
11860.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
11862.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].text |
好請高秘書長黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
11869.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].end |
11871.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].text |
高秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].start |
11871.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].end |
11873.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].text |
在我看來齁你是好為人師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].start |
11873.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].end |
11875.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].text |
我很少來到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].start |
11875.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].end |
11877.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].text |
司法委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
11877.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].end |
11879.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].text |
那這一次真的讓我活生生的看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].start |
11880.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].end |
11882.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].text |
呃你是當場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
11882.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].end |
11884.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].text |
訓斥法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].start |
11884.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].end |
11886.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].start |
11886.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].end |
11888.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].text |
這個照說啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].start |
11888.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].end |
11890.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].text |
神減變三方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].start |
11890.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].end |
11892.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].text |
是平等的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].start |
11892.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].end |
11894.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].text |
所以我不想跟你多講什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].start |
11894.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].end |
11896.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].text |
我只是提醒你齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
11897.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].end |
11899.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].text |
現在社會上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].start |
11899.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].end |
11903.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].text |
對你可信任的公職人員的信任度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
11904.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].end |
11906.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].text |
不好意思齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
11906.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].end |
11908.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
司法院你們啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].start |
11908.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].end |
11910.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].text |
跟我們立法委員是在同一等級啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].start |
11911.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].end |
11913.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].text |
我們的信任度大概三成啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].start |
11914.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
11916.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].text |
大概是公職人員裡面最低的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
11916.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
11918.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
齁我們還稍微比你們高一點點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].start |
11918.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].end |
11920.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].text |
齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].start |
11920.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].end |
11922.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].text |
那也就是有七成的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].start |
11922.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].end |
11924.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].text |
不相信我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
11924.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
11926.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
司法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
11927.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
11929.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
當然這是指 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
11929.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
11931.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
司法判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
11931.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
11933.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
拿 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
11932.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].end |
11934.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].text |
警察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
11934.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
11936.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].text |
法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].start |
11935.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
11937.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
還比我們略高 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
11937.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
11939.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
他們大概四成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
11939.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
11941.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].text |
所以這一點我要提醒你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
11941.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
11943.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
他們的信任度是四成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
11943.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
11945.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].text |
我希望不要說三成的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
11945.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
11947.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].text |
信任度三成的去教訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
11947.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
11949.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].text |
信任度四成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
11949.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
11951.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].text |
兩邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
11951.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
11953.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
要互相折衷 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
11953.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
11955.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
你們挑個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
11955.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
11957.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].start |
11956.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].end |
11958.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].text |
就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
11957.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
11959.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].text |
搭個擂台 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
11959.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
11961.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
齁生死狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
11961.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
11963.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].text |
你們兩邊看怎麼去打嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].start |
11963.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].end |
11965.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
不要再立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
11965.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
11967.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
因為立法院不是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].start |
11967.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
11969.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].text |
只有法律專業的才可以進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].start |
11969.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].end |
11971.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].text |
你剛剛那麼一教訓齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
11971.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].end |
11973.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].text |
我有點不敢上台質詢啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
11973.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
11975.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
為什麼因為我不是念法律的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
11975.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].end |
11977.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].start |
11977.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].end |
11979.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
司法就是要讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
11979.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
11981.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
人民都能夠理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
11981.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
11983.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
他整個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
11983.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].end |
11985.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].text |
我引用黃仁勳這句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].start |
11985.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].end |
11987.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].text |
他說我們人類未來的人類 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].start |
11987.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].end |
11989.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].text |
有三種能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].start |
11990.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].end |
11992.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].text |
第一個能力就是講這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].start |
11992.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].end |
11994.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].text |
敘事力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].start |
11994.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].end |
11996.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].text |
storytelling |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].start |
11997.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].end |
11999.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].text |
要釐清邏輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].start |
11999.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].end |
12001.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].text |
精確傳達核心價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].start |
12001.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].end |
12003.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].text |
法律是為人民服務的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].start |
12003.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].end |
12005.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].text |
要講到人民都能夠懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].start |
12006.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].end |
12008.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].text |
那不要那種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].start |
12008.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].end |
12010.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].text |
高高在上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].start |
12010.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].end |
12012.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].text |
做之君做之師那個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].start |
12012.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].end |
12014.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].text |
去教訓其他單位好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
12014.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].end |
12016.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].text |
法律是固然 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].start |
12016.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].end |
12018.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].text |
要有專業但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].start |
12018.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].end |
12020.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
也容許我們有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].start |
12020.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
12022.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].text |
人民有不同的感受比方說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].start |
12022.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].end |
12024.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].text |
我舉例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
12026 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].end |
12028 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
我們蔡總統在三年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
12028 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
12030 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
她就講過她說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
12030 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].end |
12032 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].text |
司法改革的領頭羊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
12032.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].end |
12034.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].text |
就是國民法官制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].start |
12036.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].end |
12038.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].text |
所以三年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].start |
12038.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].end |
12040.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].text |
蔡總統任內她推動了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
12040.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].end |
12042.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].text |
國民法官制就實施了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
12042.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].end |
12044.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].text |
這三年多來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].start |
12044.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].end |
12046.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].text |
國民法官制其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
12046.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].end |
12048.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].text |
頗受好評 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
12049.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].end |
12051.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].text |
但是我比較不懂的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].start |
12051.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].end |
12053.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].text |
這三年來我們國民法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
12053.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].end |
12055.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
總共有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
12055.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].end |
12057.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
489件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
12057.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].end |
12059.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
收案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
12058.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
12060.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
裡面有157件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].start |
12060.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].end |
12062.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].text |
高達36% |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].start |
12064.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].end |
12066.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].text |
欸 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].start |
12064.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].end |
12066.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].text |
被司法院轉軌啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].start |
12067.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].end |
12069.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].text |
就轉軌啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].start |
12069.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].end |
12071.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].text |
你們轉軌的我先做一個比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].start |
12072.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].end |
12074.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].text |
人家日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].start |
12074.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].end |
12076.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].text |
日本他們的這個審判 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].start |
12076.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].end |
12078.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].text |
是國民裁判員制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].start |
12078.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].end |
12080.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].text |
就等同於我們的國民法官制啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].start |
12080.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].end |
12082.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].text |
他實施了16年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].start |
12082.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].end |
12084.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].text |
總共 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].start |
12084.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].end |
12086.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].text |
受理的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].start |
12086.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].end |
12088.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].text |
20167件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].start |
12088.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].end |
12090.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].text |
他16年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].start |
12090.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].end |
12092.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].text |
20,000件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].start |
12092.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].end |
12094.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].text |
轉軌的件數 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].start |
12094.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].end |
12096.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].text |
也不過65件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].start |
12097.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].end |
12099.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].text |
天啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].start |
12099.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].end |
12101.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].start |
12101.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].end |
12103.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].text |
到底我們的司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].start |
12103.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].end |
12105.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].text |
你們有沒有尊重國民法官制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].start |
12105.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].end |
12107.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].text |
這一點我打了很大的問號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].start |
12107.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].end |
12109.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].text |
那陳如我剛剛看你的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].start |
12109.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].end |
12111.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].text |
我就知道你們就是不尊重嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].start |
12111.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].end |
12113.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].text |
你們認為法律就是一定要法律的轉捩 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].start |
12113.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].end |
12115.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].text |
所以你們用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].start |
12115.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].end |
12117.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].text |
你們不准 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].start |
12116.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].end |
12118.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].text |
不准說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].start |
12118.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].end |
12120.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].text |
國民法官制說要轉軌的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].start |
12120.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].end |
12122.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].text |
你們就是說這個審查程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].start |
12122.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].end |
12124.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].text |
太繁複啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].start |
12124.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].end |
12126.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].text |
需要高度的轉捩 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].start |
12126.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].end |
12128.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].text |
審查程序繁複我們可以延長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].start |
12128.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].end |
12130.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].text |
審理時間不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].start |
12131.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].end |
12133.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].text |
要高度轉捩有很多需要用鑑定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].start |
12133.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].end |
12135.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].text |
那你只要讓被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].start |
12135.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].end |
12137.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].text |
可以詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].start |
12137.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].end |
12139.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].text |
這個鑑定人嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].start |
12139.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].end |
12141.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].text |
所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].start |
12141.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].end |
12143.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].text |
我不跟你多浪費時間我還是簡單的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].start |
12144.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].end |
12146.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].text |
不好意思喔那個周杰倫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].start |
12146.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].end |
12148.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].text |
是不是因為我剛才提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].start |
12148.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].end |
12150.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].text |
我遲到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].start |
12150.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].end |
12152.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].start |
12152.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].end |
12154.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].text |
所以是不是請給我幾分鐘我簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].start |
12154.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].end |
12156.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].text |
說明一下我這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].start |
12156.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].end |
12158.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].text |
我提的是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].start |
12160.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].end |
12162.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].text |
這個徵修條文啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].start |
12162.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].end |
12164.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].text |
刑事訴訟法的徵訂條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].start |
12164.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].end |
12166.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].text |
我提了四點1985年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].start |
12166.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].end |
12168.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].text |
在聯合國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].start |
12168.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].end |
12170.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].text |
有通過被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].start |
12170.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].end |
12172.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].text |
司法基本原則宣言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].start |
12172.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].end |
12174.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].text |
它裡面第四點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].start |
12174.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].end |
12176.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].text |
它講的很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].start |
12176.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].end |
12178.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].text |
他說犯罪被害人因受 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].start |
12178.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].end |
12180.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].text |
同情及尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].start |
12181.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].end |
12183.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].text |
喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].start |
12182.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].end |
12184.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].text |
是對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].start |
12184.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].end |
12186.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].text |
其所受之損害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].start |
12186.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].end |
12188.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].text |
英特 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].start |
12187.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].end |
12189.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].text |
透過司法程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].start |
12190.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].end |
12192.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].text |
迅速獲得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].start |
12192.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].end |
12194.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].text |
就寄 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].start |
12194.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].end |
12196.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].text |
而且第五點它還規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].start |
12196.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].end |
12198.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].text |
司法及行政機關因建立制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].start |
12198.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].end |
12200.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].text |
或採取必要之加強措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].start |
12200.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].end |
12202.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].text |
使犯罪被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].start |
12202.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].end |
12204.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].text |
得透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].start |
12204.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].end |
12206.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].text |
迅速公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].start |
12205.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].end |
12207.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].text |
喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].start |
12207.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].end |
12209.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].text |
而且方便之正式非正式之程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].start |
12209.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].end |
12211.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].text |
以獲得就寄 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].start |
12211.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].end |
12213.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].text |
那我們的司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].start |
12214.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].end |
12216.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].text |
欸大法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].start |
12216.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].end |
12218.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].text |
世智 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].start |
12218.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].end |
12220.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].text |
507號解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].start |
12220.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].end |
12222.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].text |
也有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].start |
12222.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].end |
12224.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].text |
他認為憲法第十二條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].start |
12224.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].end |
12226.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].text |
人民有訴訟之權 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].start |
12226.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].end |
12228.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].text |
此項權力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].start |
12228.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].end |
12230.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].text |
亦包括人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].start |
12230.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].end |
12232.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].text |
尋求刑事司法就寄在內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].start |
12232.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].end |
12234.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].text |
事故 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].start |
12234.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].end |
12236.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].text |
人民因權力遭受非法侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].start |
12236.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].end |
12238.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].text |
加害之行為人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].start |
12238.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].end |
12240.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].text |
因而因負刑事責任者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].start |
12240.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].end |
12242.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].text |
被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].start |
12242.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].end |
12244.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].text |
有請求司法機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].start |
12244.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].end |
12246.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].text |
給予偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].start |
12246.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].end |
12248.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].text |
審判之權力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].start |
12248.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].end |
12250.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].text |
此項權力之行使國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].start |
12250.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].end |
12252.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].text |
一應提供制度性之保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].start |
12253.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].end |
12255.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].text |
誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].start |
12255.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].end |
12257.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].text |
大法官都解釋啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].start |
12257.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].end |
12259.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].text |
刑事程序被害人的保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].start |
12259.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].end |
12261.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].text |
那不僅這個是國際潮流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].start |
12261.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].end |
12263.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].text |
這也符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].start |
12263.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].end |
12265.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].text |
我們國家刑事人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].start |
12265.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].end |
12267.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].text |
保障的重要指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].start |
12267.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].end |
12269.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].text |
我說我提了這四點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].start |
12269.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].end |
12271.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].text |
我認為要增訂這四點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].start |
12271.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].end |
12273.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].text |
這四點就是我簡單說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].start |
12273.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].end |
12275.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].text |
第55之一啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].start |
12276.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].end |
12278.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].text |
我認為要增訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].start |
12278.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].end |
12280.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].text |
要建構資訊防火牆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].start |
12280.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].end |
12282.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].text |
也就是阻絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].start |
12282.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].end |
12284.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].text |
合法的文書淪為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].start |
12284.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].end |
12286.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].text |
二次傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].start |
12286.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].end |
12288.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].text |
淪為二次傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].start |
12288.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].end |
12290.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].text |
也就是可以讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].start |
12290.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].end |
12292.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].text |
被害人來要求說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].start |
12292.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].end |
12294.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].text |
是不是將文書去識別化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].start |
12294.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].end |
12296.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].text |
保護他們的個資 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].start |
12296.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].end |
12298.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].text |
他們已經一度被害了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].start |
12298.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].end |
12300.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].text |
那如果個資在外洩 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].start |
12300.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].end |
12302.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].text |
是二度被害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].start |
12302.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].end |
12304.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].text |
第二點就是說我希望落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].start |
12304.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].end |
12306.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].text |
這個權力強化跟檢察官的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].start |
12306.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].end |
12308.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].text |
實質溝通效能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].start |
12308.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].end |
12310.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].start |
12310.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].end |
12312.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].text |
犯罪被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].start |
12312.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].end |
12314.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].text |
真正需要的往往不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].start |
12314.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].end |
12316.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].text |
重要的刑罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].start |
12316.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].end |
12318.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].text |
其實最重要的他是要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].start |
12318.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].end |
12320.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].text |
案件是如何進行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].start |
12321.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].end |
12323.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].text |
證據是如何評價 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].start |
12323.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].end |
12325.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].text |
判決是如何行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].start |
12325.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].end |
12327.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].text |
這一些應該讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].start |
12327.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].end |
12329.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].text |
被害人能夠適度的知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].start |
12329.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].end |
12331.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].text |
他能夠適度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].start |
12331.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].end |
12333.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].text |
跟檢察官做溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].start |
12333.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].end |
12335.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].text |
那第455之49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].start |
12335.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].end |
12337.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].text |
我認為要明定補充結問權啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].start |
12337.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].end |
12339.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].text |
也就是說引進被害人的視角 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].start |
12339.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].end |
12341.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].text |
來拼湊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].start |
12341.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].end |
12343.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].text |
犯罪事實的全貌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].start |
12347.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].end |
12349.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].text |
被害人畢竟他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].start |
12350.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].end |
12352.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].text |
他是在犯罪現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].start |
12352.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].end |
12354.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].text |
他很理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].start |
12354.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].end |
12356.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].text |
所以如果我們為了發現具體事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].start |
12356.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].end |
12358.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].text |
那麼應該明定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].start |
12358.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].end |
12360.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].text |
檢辯雙方在詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].start |
12360.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].end |
12362.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].text |
完畢以後訴訟參與人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].start |
12362.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].end |
12364.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].text |
得申請審判長許可 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].start |
12364.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].end |
12366.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].text |
審判長許可 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].start |
12366.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].end |
12368.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].text |
就是你們司法這邊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].start |
12368.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].end |
12370.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].text |
你們許可啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].start |
12370.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].end |
12372.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].text |
那他應該可以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].start |
12372.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].end |
12374.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].text |
這個結問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].start |
12374.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].end |
12376.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].text |
這個被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].start |
12376.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].end |
12378.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].text |
也就是說避免證人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].start |
12378.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].end |
12380.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].text |
虛偽或者避重就輕的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].start |
12380.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].end |
12382.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].text |
因為他在場嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].start |
12382.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].end |
12384.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].text |
他非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].start |
12384.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].end |
12386.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].text |
那最後我又再申請了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].start |
12386.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].end |
12388.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].text |
455之50 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].start |
12388.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].end |
12390.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].start |
12390.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].end |
12392.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].text |
讓這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].start |
12393.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].end |
12395.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].text |
被害人可以直面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].start |
12395.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].end |
12397.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].text |
直接命告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].start |
12397.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].end |
12399.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].text |
這個被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].start |
12399.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].end |
12401.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].text |
要求釐清你的動機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].start |
12401.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].end |
12403.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].text |
你要兼顧兼默權 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].start |
12403.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].end |
12405.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].text |
保障權情緒平穩 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].start |
12405.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].end |
12407.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].start |
12407.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].end |
12409.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].text |
我們應該賦予訴訟參與人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].start |
12409.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].end |
12411.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].text |
金許可後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].start |
12412.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].end |
12414.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].text |
還是要歸願許可啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].start |
12414.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].end |
12416.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].text |
那麼可以就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].start |
12416.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].end |
12418.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].text |
犯罪動機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].start |
12418.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].end |
12420.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].text |
對損害之認知 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].start |
12420.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].end |
12422.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].text |
還有犯後態度等這些事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].start |
12422.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].end |
12424.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].text |
直接向被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].start |
12424.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].end |
12426.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].text |
進行詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].start |
12426.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].end |
12428.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].text |
我覺得這幾點才能確保 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].start |
12428.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].end |
12430.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].text |
被害人他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].start |
12430.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].end |
12432.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].text |
在司法訴訟的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].start |
12432.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].end |
12434.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].text |
他們應有的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].start |
12434.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].end |
12436.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].text |
我再一次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].start |
12436.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].end |
12438.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].text |
法律是為人民服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].start |
12438.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].end |
12440.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].text |
被害人最無辜啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].start |
12440.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].end |
12442.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].text |
那加害人要敢做敢當 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].start |
12442.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].end |
12444.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].text |
當然他們可以辯護 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].start |
12444.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].end |
12446.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].text |
那我也另外再給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].start |
12446.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].end |
12448.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].text |
補充一點喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].start |
12448.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].end |
12450.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].text |
去年你回去查查看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].start |
12451.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].end |
12453.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].text |
我們這個用在法律服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].start |
12453.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].end |
12455.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].start |
12454.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].end |
12456.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].text |
服住的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].start |
12456.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].end |
12458.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].text |
這是我們公家編的15億 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].start |
12458.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].end |
12460.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].text |
我們15億裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].start |
12460.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].end |
12462.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].text |
竟然有8成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].start |
12462.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].end |
12464.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].text |
是用在這些加害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].start |
12464.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].end |
12466.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].text |
尤其死刑犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].start |
12466.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].end |
12468.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].text |
還有這30 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].start |
12468.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].end |
12470.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].text |
剩下35位死刑犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].start |
12470.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].end |
12472.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].text |
他們每一位都聘請3位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].start |
12474.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].end |
12476.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].text |
律師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].start |
12476.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].end |
12478.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].text |
這可惡到幾點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].start |
12478.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].end |
12480.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].text |
已經最正確著 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].start |
12480.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].end |
12482.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].text |
最無可換了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].start |
12482.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].end |
12484.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].text |
所以這我再一次請你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].start |
12484.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].end |
12486.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].text |
我請你回去查清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].start |
12486.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].end |
12488.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].text |
我們這15億是要幫助弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].start |
12490.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].end |
12492.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].text |
哈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].start |
12491.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].end |
12493.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].text |
受害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].start |
12493.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].end |
12495.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].text |
而且他沒有辦法自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].start |
12495.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].end |
12497.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].text |
來去爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].start |
12497.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].end |
12499.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].text |
所以他也沒有錢聘請律師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].start |
12499.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].end |
12501.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].text |
我們是要輔助他們這些人才對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].start |
12503.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].end |
12505.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].text |
如果被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].start |
12505.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].end |
12507.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].text |
加害人他沒有錢申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].start |
12507.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].end |
12509.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].text |
也OK |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].start |
12509.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].end |
12511.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].text |
但是比例不是這個樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].start |
12511.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].end |
12513.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].text |
哪有說讓死刑犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].start |
12513.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].end |
12515.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].text |
來聘3個律師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].start |
12515.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].end |
12517.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].text |
真是很失明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].start |
12518.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].end |
12520.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].start |
12520.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].end |
12522.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].text |
靠近一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].start |
12522.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].end |
12524.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].text |
我已經尊重你院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].start |
12526.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].end |
12528.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].text |
你再照 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].start |
12528.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].end |
12530.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].text |
這樣子繼續強硬下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].start |
12530.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].end |
12532.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].text |
有一天你可能會當到院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].start |
12533.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].end |
12535.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].text |
我再一次提醒你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].start |
12536.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].end |
12538.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].text |
要認清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].start |
12538.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].end |
12540.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].text |
施法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].start |
12539.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].end |
12541.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].text |
法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].start |
12540.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].end |
12542.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].text |
必須專業沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].start |
12542.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].end |
12544.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].text |
但是法律不外乎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].start |
12544.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].end |
12546.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].text |
就是要服務人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].start |
12546.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].end |
12548.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].text |
要跟人民站在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].start |
12548.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].end |
12550.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].text |
你要以人民不懂法律的視角 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].start |
12551.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].end |
12553.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].text |
來做裁判 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].start |
12553.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].end |
12555.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].text |
來做表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].start |
12555.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].end |
12557.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].text |
這才是正確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].start |
12559.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].end |
12561.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].text |
謝謝王詠瑩 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].start |
12563.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].end |
12566.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].text |
接下來我們有請洪孟凱委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].start |
12571.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].end |
12572.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].start |
12578.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].end |
12580.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].text |
感謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].start |
12580.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].end |
12582.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].text |
王世堅委員康凱基揚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].start |
12582.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].end |
12584.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].text |
大家知不知道一個小知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].start |
12584.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].end |
12587.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].text |
孟凱跟王世堅委員都是同月同日生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].start |
12587.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].end |
12589.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].text |
我們都是1月1號摩羯座 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].start |
12589.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].end |
12591.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].text |
所以時事求是很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].start |
12591.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].end |
12593.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].text |
我也是摩羯座 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].start |
12594.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].end |
12596.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].text |
那我們一起努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].start |
12596.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].end |
12598.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].text |
請秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].start |
12598.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].end |
12600.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].text |
來請秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].start |
12600.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].end |
12602.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].text |
法務部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].start |
12607.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].end |
12609.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].text |
一樣嚴肅的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].start |
12609.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].end |
12611.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].text |
我想刑事訴訟法本席一開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].start |
12611.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].end |
12613.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].text |
開宗明義在最後提案說明的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].start |
12613.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].end |
12615.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].text |
就已經講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].start |
12614.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].end |
12616.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].text |
任何執政權再大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].start |
12616.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].end |
12618.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].text |
也大不過憲法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].start |
12618.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].end |
12622.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].text |
五權分立是中華民國我們很基本的憲法框架 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].start |
12622.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].end |
12625.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].text |
因此我們一定要尊重這樣的憲法框架 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].start |
12625.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].end |
12629.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].text |
憲法框架就是我們各自願做好各自的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].start |
12629.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].end |
12630.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].text |
各自的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].start |
12630.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].end |
12632.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].text |
那更重要的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].start |
12632.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].end |
12634.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].text |
要以台灣人民的福祉為最優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].start |
12634.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].end |
12637.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].text |
所以我先看到一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].start |
12639.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].end |
12641.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].text |
剛剛也是提到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].start |
12641.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].end |
12644.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].text |
王世堅委員有提到這個法服的一個使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].start |
12644.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].end |
12646.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].text |
沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].start |
12646.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].end |
12648.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].text |
法服是要保障弱勢是希望是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].start |
12648.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].end |
12650.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].text |
大家不要有這個法律的一個資訊落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].start |
12650.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].end |
12652.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].text |
但絕對不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].start |
12652.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].end |
12656.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].text |
加害者來請律師請好請滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].start |
12656.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].end |
12658.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].text |
然後藉此想要逃避 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].start |
12658.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].end |
12660.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].text |
應有的制裁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].start |
12660.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].end |
12663.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].text |
本席有提到之前有講到一個這個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].start |
12663.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].end |
12666.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].text |
就是所謂我們的土城勇警 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].start |
12666.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].end |
12669.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].text |
劉宗鑫所長他被毒蟲撞死 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].start |
12669.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].end |
12671.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].text |
前幾天上個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].start |
12671.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].end |
12673.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].text |
六天前還在做嚴壓庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].start |
12673.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].end |
12675.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].text |
結果這個毒蟲他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].start |
12675.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].end |
12677.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].text |
居然還講是說他就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].start |
12677.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].end |
12680.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].text |
反正這個繼續嚴壓沒有任何意見表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].start |
12680.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].end |
12683.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].text |
所以兩秒鐘法官又再繼續嚴壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].start |
12683.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].end |
12684.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].text |
但更重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].start |
12684.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].end |
12686.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].text |
他居然在這利用法服 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].start |
12686.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].end |
12689.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].text |
可以請了三名律師請好請滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].start |
12689.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].end |
12692.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].text |
而且這三名律師形象非常的鮮明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].start |
12692.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].end |
12695.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].text |
都是廢死聯盟相關的律師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].start |
12695.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].end |
12697.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].text |
所以其實他的意義很明顯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].start |
12697.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].end |
12701.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].text |
他就是想要逃脫所謂的死刑的一個制裁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].start |
12701.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].end |
12702.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].text |
死刑的一個處罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].start |
12702.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].end |
12704.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].text |
但我們要問的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].start |
12704.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].end |
12707.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].text |
當一個毒蟲開車駕車 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].start |
12707.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].end |
12708.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].text |
故意殺人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].start |
12708.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].end |
12712.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].text |
以這樣子衝撞遠景制服遠景的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].start |
12713.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].end |
12715.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].text |
第一審已經判死刑了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].start |
12715.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].end |
12717.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].text |
那法院二審 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].start |
12717.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].end |
12720.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].text |
到底會不會還是堅持這樣的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].start |
12720.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].end |
12723.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].text |
還是法院有可能讓他開脫了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].start |
12723.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].end |
12724.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].text |
這人民不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].start |
12724.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].end |
12726.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].text |
可是公平正義就在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].start |
12726.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].end |
12729.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].text |
也因此本席現在提到兩個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].start |
12729.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].end |
12731.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].text |
我等一下請秘書長這邊來做回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].start |
12732.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].end |
12735.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].text |
就是說這個案件他是故意殺人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].start |
12735.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].end |
12737.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].text |
其實一審大家已經看得很明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].start |
12737.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].end |
12738.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].text |
但現在另一個部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].start |
12738.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].end |
12741.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].text |
我們也針對相關的刑罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].start |
12741.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].end |
12742.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].text |
我們來做修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].start |
12742.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].end |
12744.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].text |
就是毒駕跟酒駕最大的不同是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].start |
12744.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].end |
12747.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].text |
毒駕他吸毒已經是犯罪了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].start |
12747.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].end |
12748.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].text |
吸毒還開車上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].start |
12748.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].end |
12751.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].text |
那是更加是惡上加惡非常可惡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].start |
12751.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].end |
12754.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].text |
而如果說你有吸毒駕車 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].start |
12754.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].end |
12756.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].text |
而撞人致人於死的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].start |
12756.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].end |
12760.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].text |
很抱歉你應該要付出相同的代價 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].start |
12760.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].end |
12762.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].text |
也因此法務部現在提出來的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].start |
12762.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].end |
12763.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].text |
是從3年到10年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].start |
12763.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].end |
12765.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].text |
我們增加到5年到12年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].start |
12765.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].end |
12767.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].text |
但我本席不認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].start |
12767.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].end |
12769.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].text |
本席的版本是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].start |
12769.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].end |
12772.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].text |
毒蟲駕車毒駕致死最高可出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].start |
12772.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].end |
12776.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].text |
死刑無期徒刑或10年以上有期徒刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].start |
12776.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].end |
12777.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].text |
該做的修法我們會做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].start |
12777.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].end |
12779.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].text |
因為現在已經進入到朝野協商了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].start |
12779.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].end |
12781.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].text |
如果說沒有辦法達成共識的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].start |
12781.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].end |
12783.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].text |
那該院會表決我們一定會表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].start |
12783.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].end |
12784.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].text |
但更重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].start |
12784.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].end |
12787.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].text |
立法院敢做修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].start |
12787.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].end |
12789.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].text |
法院敢不敢判 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].start |
12789.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].end |
12791.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].text |
我想這才是關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].start |
12792.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].end |
12794.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].text |
民主黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].start |
12793.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].end |
12795.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].text |
您知不知此如果說我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].start |
12795.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].end |
12798.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].text |
這個毒蟲駕車最高致死 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].start |
12798.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].end |
12801.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].text |
而出於死刑無期徒刑或10年以上有期徒刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].start |
12801.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].end |
12806.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].text |
來賀主毒蟲你吸毒了不要開車上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].start |
12806.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].end |
12809.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].text |
你開車上路如果說撞到人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].start |
12809.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].end |
12811.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].text |
不要跟我講你是不小心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].start |
12811.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].end |
12813.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].text |
不要跟我講說你是無意識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].start |
12813.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].end |
12815.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].text |
不要跟我講說你是無差別沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].start |
12815.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].end |
12818.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].text |
吸毒駕車你已經是不定時炸彈了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].start |
12818.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].end |
12820.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].text |
你在路上都是一個殺人兇器 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].start |
12820.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].end |
12821.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].text |
都是一個災難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].start |
12821.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].end |
12823.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].text |
我們就以最高的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].start |
12823.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].end |
12825.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].text |
要求你不要開車上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].start |
12825.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].end |
12827.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].text |
這樣的修法方向你可以接受嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].start |
12827.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].end |
12829.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].text |
我想這個是最重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].start |
12831.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].end |
12834.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].text |
刑事刑罰要怎麼樣的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].start |
12835.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].end |
12836.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].text |
這是尊重立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].start |
12837.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].end |
12839.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].text |
因為這是立法權所在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].start |
12839.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].end |
12841.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].text |
我的態度很明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].start |
12841.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].end |
12844.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].text |
我是要告訴所有台灣2300萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].start |
12844.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].end |
12846.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].text |
生活在這邊你要遵守我們的法治 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].start |
12846.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].end |
12848.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].text |
如果你敢吸毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].start |
12848.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].end |
12850.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].text |
那你已經犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].start |
12850.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].end |
12851.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].text |
但你吸毒之後不要開車 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].start |
12851.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].end |
12853.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].text |
你吸毒還開車沒路車輛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].start |
12853.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].end |
12855.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].text |
如果你吸毒開車還致死 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].start |
12855.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].end |
12859.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].text |
那最高死刑無期徒刑或10年以上有期徒刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].start |
12859.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].end |
12860.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].text |
很重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].start |
12860.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].end |
12862.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].text |
所以告訴你不要這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].start |
12865.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].end |
12867.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].start |
12865.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].end |
12866.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].text |
我們現在講了就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].start |
12866.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].end |
12868.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].text |
我們也不是說完全沒有option |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].start |
12868.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].end |
12870.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].text |
就是說不是說我們就唯一死刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].start |
12870.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].end |
12872.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].text |
所以到最後我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].start |
12872.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].end |
12874.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].text |
做這樣子的一個假設修法通過之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].start |
12874.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].end |
12878.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].text |
還是回過頭來就是求在法官手上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].start |
12878.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].end |
12881.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].text |
法官可以因照各個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].start |
12881.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].end |
12885.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].text |
勤竭輕重緩急來去裁定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].start |
12885.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].end |
12887.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].text |
到最後是死刑無期徒刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].start |
12887.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].end |
12889.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].text |
還是10年以上有期徒刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].start |
12889.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].end |
12891.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].text |
但是這是一個態度的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].start |
12891.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].end |
12893.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].text |
所以這個共同大家來講是說不要做這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].start |
12896.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].end |
12898.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].text |
我相信這是立法權 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].start |
12898.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].end |
12899.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].text |
我們絕對尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].start |
12899.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].end |
12901.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].text |
那之後法官敢不敢判 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].start |
12902.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].end |
12906.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].text |
我們現在看到很多司法院法官的一個部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].start |
12906.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].end |
12908.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].text |
我們即便給了工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].start |
12908.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].end |
12910.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].text |
但法官到時候不敢判 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].start |
12910.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].end |
12912.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].text |
或是判的還是以最低刑度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].start |
12912.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].end |
12914.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].text |
那就好像是最低消費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].start |
12914.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].end |
12918.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].text |
不是啊我們希望是法官能夠重判嚴懲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].start |
12918.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].end |
12922.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].text |
讓這些真正犯罪者不要逃離法律應有的制裁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].start |
12922.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].end |
12927.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].text |
是我想這個是好死刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].start |
12927.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].end |
12929.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].text |
無期徒刑到10年以上有期徒刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].start |
12929.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].end |
12931.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].text |
絕對法官是有事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].start |
12932.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].end |
12933.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].text |
來適用法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].start |
12933.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].end |
12937.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].text |
當然有時候量刑外界可能不滿意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].start |
12937.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].end |
12943.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].text |
可是我相信隨著進入國民法官的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].start |
12943.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].end |
12945.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].text |
其實大家互相學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].start |
12945.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].end |
12948.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].text |
我相信各位可以看到量刑的趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].start |
12948.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].end |
12950.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].text |
因為它有一個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].start |
12950.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].end |
12952.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].text |
我不能說它一定是死刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].start |
12952.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].end |
12954.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].text |
它一定是無期徒刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].start |
12954.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].end |
12958.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].text |
它要看很多事實跟證據這樣來評量 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].start |
12958.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].end |
12960.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].text |
所以我現在講就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].start |
12960.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].end |
12962.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].text |
所謂的廢死聯盟廢死團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].start |
12962.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].end |
12963.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].text |
我尊重他們的言論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].start |
12963.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].end |
12967.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].text |
但是很抱歉台灣社會現在就是沒有廢死的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].start |
12967.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].end |
12970.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].text |
也因此我該捍衛的該堅持我一定會堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].start |
12970.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].end |
12971.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].text |
但另外一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].start |
12971.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].end |
12974.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].text |
其實今天司法院在第二頁你的報告裡面有講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].start |
12974.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].end |
12977.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].text |
我覺得這很值得我們法務部很值得我們民進黨政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].start |
12977.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].end |
12979.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].text |
現在執政黨來參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].start |
12979.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].end |
12980.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].text |
第二頁開宗明義講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].start |
12980.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].end |
12985.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].text |
近來大量集團式詐騙洗錢等量刑事化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].start |
12985.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].end |
12990.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].text |
高重複性犯罪已經嚴重排擠司法資源的有效運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].start |
12990.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].end |
12997.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].text |
從110年40多萬件到114年已經成長36.2% |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].start |
12997.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].end |
12999.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].text |
達到55萬件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].start |
13000.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].end |
13001.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].text |
詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].start |
13002.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].end |
13006.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].text |
洗錢等這種高型態集團化的犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].start |
13006.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].end |
13009.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].text |
連司法院的報告今天都點出來是說非常嚴峻 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].start |
13009.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].end |
13011.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].text |
也因此我們才會講是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].start |
13011.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].end |
13014.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].text |
我們要用更積極有效的方式來去對付詐騙集團 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].start |
13014.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].end |
13016.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].text |
一個是抓到之後我們要重判 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].start |
13016.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].end |
13019.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].text |
讓他知道說在台灣犯罪你要付出高額的代價 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].start |
13019.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].end |
13023.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].text |
另外一個部分是讓你知道有高額代價要付出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].start |
13023.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].end |
13025.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].text |
也因此你不敢在台灣犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].start |
13025.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].end |
13029.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].text |
所以本席也提出來所謂的邊形打擊詐騙公投 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].start |
13029.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].end |
13031.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].text |
現在也已經正設立法院成案了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].start |
13031.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].end |
13033.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].text |
未來今年年底有可能會有這個公投 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].start |
13033.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].end |
13035.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].text |
公投如果說真的通過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].start |
13035.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].end |
13039.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].text |
立法院跟行政院都有責任要推動修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].start |
13039.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].end |
13042.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].text |
因為這是人民公投的一個決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].start |
13042.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].end |
13044.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].text |
而我現在只想要再提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].start |
13044.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].end |
13047.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].text |
如果說真的邊形打擊詐騙公投通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].start |
13047.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].end |
13051.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].text |
確實有邊形這樣的一個刑責進入的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].start |
13051.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].end |
13053.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].text |
法院也要感叛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].start |
13055.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].end |
13057.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].text |
法院也要感叛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].start |
13057.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].end |
13059.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].text |
這才是真真正正 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].start |
13059.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].end |
13063.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].text |
五院各自分立各自責任的一個分屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].start |
13063.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].end |
13067.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].text |
而能夠真的有效讓台灣社會更加進步的一個關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].start |
13067.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].end |
13069.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].text |
民主黨可以認同嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].start |
13069.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].end |
13071.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].text |
當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].start |
13071.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].end |
13073.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].text |
法官是依法判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].start |
13073.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].end |
13075.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].text |
法律通過了除非 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].start |
13075.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].end |
13077.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].text |
他將來有違憲另外的別 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].start |
13077.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].end |
13079.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].text |
另外的情勢發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].start |
13079.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].end |
13082.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].text |
法官就是依法來判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].start |
13082.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].end |
13083.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].start |
13083.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].end |
13085.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].text |
來最後這個不好意思市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].start |
13085.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].end |
13086.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].text |
讓您在這邊站比較久 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].start |
13086.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].end |
13089.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].text |
不過本席回歸到這個草案的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].start |
13089.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].end |
13091.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].text |
我幾個部分我只簡單講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].start |
13091.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].end |
13093.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].text |
因為本席也看到我自己的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].start |
13093.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].end |
13097.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].text |
455之44條以及45跟47條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].start |
13097.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].end |
13099.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].text |
原則上我看到司法院跟法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].start |
13099.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].end |
13101.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].text |
都是尊重我們的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].start |
13101.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].end |
13104.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].text |
並且都是表達可以接受的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].start |
13104.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].end |
13106.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].start |
13106.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].end |
13109.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].text |
455之44條本席認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].start |
13109.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].end |
13111.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].text |
既然現在已經有相關的一個座位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].start |
13111.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].end |
13115.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].text |
能夠再更明確讓被害者或是其家屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].start |
13115.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].end |
13118.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].text |
有在法院審理的時候有一個明確隔離的一個座位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].start |
13118.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].end |
13119.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].text |
我覺得這是好的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].start |
13119.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].end |
13121.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].text |
即便司法院已經提出來是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].start |
13121.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].end |
13124.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].text |
目前雖然沒有法令規定但是已經有座 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].start |
13124.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].end |
13126.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].text |
那如果說有座那樣更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].start |
13126.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].end |
13128.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].text |
那是不是能夠在這邊法治化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].start |
13128.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].end |
13130.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].text |
讓他更加明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].start |
13130.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].end |
13132.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].text |
各級法院都可以有這樣的一個設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].start |
13132.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].end |
13137.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].text |
而455之47條在於是被害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].start |
13137.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].end |
13140.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].text |
或是其家屬的一個陳述意見的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].start |
13140.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].end |
13143.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].text |
我想也看到法務部跟司法院都是尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].start |
13143.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].end |
13144.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].text |
都是同意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].start |
13144.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].end |
13146.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].text |
所以在逐條審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].start |
13146.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].end |
13147.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].text |
本席也會堅持這一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].start |
13147.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].end |
13150.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].text |
因為能夠適時的在審理過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].start |
13150.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].end |
13153.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].text |
讓被害者或被害者家屬陳述意見表達意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].start |
13153.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].end |
13156.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].text |
我想這對於法官的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].start |
13156.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].end |
13158.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].text |
是有所公正的一個幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].start |
13158.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].end |
13160.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].text |
另外本席有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].start |
13160.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].end |
13163.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].text |
2711之1條這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].start |
13165.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].end |
13167.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].text |
也有陳述意見的一個部分也是同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].start |
13167.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].end |
13169.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].text |
反正這幾個部分有同意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].start |
13169.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].end |
13171.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].text |
我想我們如果說有共識的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].start |
13171.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].end |
13173.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].text |
在逐條審查的時候我一定會有所堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].start |
13173.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].end |
13175.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].text |
那也希望我們司法院法務部能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].start |
13175.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].end |
13179.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].text |
在針對本席所提出來其他幾個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].start |
13179.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].end |
13181.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].text |
有可以溝通的部分我們再做一些溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].start |
13181.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].end |
13183.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].text |
那希望在逐條審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].start |
13183.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].end |
13185.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].text |
我們能夠有更實質的進展好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].start |
13185.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].end |
13187.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].start |
13188.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].end |
13190.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].text |
謝謝洪孟凱委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].start |
13190.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].end |
13192.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].text |
那我們接下來有請楊瓊瑩委員進行巡達 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].start |
13199.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].end |
13201.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].text |
謝謝主席楊俊凡議員邀請司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].start |
13203.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].end |
13205.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].text |
好 請高秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].start |
13209.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].end |
13213.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].text |
我們來討論我們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].start |
13214.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].end |
13216.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].text |
法輔基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].start |
13216.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].end |
13220.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].text |
因為我們為了保障經濟落實的人民的訴訟權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].start |
13220.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].end |
13222.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].text |
司法院每一年常態性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].start |
13222.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].end |
13224.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].text |
我們來編的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].start |
13224.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].end |
13226.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].text |
公帑來預注在法輔基金會裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].start |
13226.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].end |
13228.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].text |
但是我們看到現行執行下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].start |
13228.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].end |
13234.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].text |
現行的法輔資源分配的一個配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].start |
13234.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].end |
13236.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].text |
出現了嚴重明顯的一個失衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].start |
13236.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].end |
13238.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].text |
那也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].start |
13238.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].end |
13240.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].text |
法輔案件當中高達九成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].start |
13240.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].end |
13242.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].text |
他是涉及到刑事被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].start |
13244.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].end |
13248.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].text |
那同時真正協助犯罪被害人的比例只有一成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].start |
13248.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].end |
13250.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].text |
大概只有一成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].start |
13249.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].end |
13251.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].text |
那有鑑於本席認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].start |
13251.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].end |
13253.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].text |
如果像蓄意殺人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].start |
13253.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].end |
13255.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].text |
獨家致死 詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].start |
13255.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].end |
13257.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].text |
性侵 虐童的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].start |
13257.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].end |
13259.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].text |
那這樣子的一個重大犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].start |
13259.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].end |
13261.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].text |
我們應該重新來調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].start |
13261.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].end |
13263.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].text |
他適不適合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].start |
13263.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].end |
13265.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].text |
適用在我們法律輔助的一個必要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].start |
13267.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].end |
13269.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].text |
我們將有限的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].start |
13269.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].end |
13271.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].text |
有限的公帑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].start |
13271.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].end |
13273.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].text |
應該要優先用在於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].start |
13273.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].end |
13275.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].text |
真正需要司法救濟的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].start |
13275.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].end |
13277.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].text |
經濟弱勢及犯罪被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].start |
13277.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].end |
13279.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].text |
這也是我們成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].start |
13279.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].end |
13281.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].text |
法輔基金會的最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].start |
13281.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].end |
13283.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].text |
宗旨跟目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].start |
13283.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].end |
13285.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].text |
也就是保障弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].start |
13285.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].end |
13287.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].text |
司法的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].start |
13287.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].end |
13289.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].text |
所以我個人要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].start |
13289.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].end |
13290.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].text |
秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].start |
13290.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].end |
13292.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].text |
也就是你司法院是否支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].start |
13293.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].end |
13294.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].text |
蓄意殺人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].start |
13294.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].end |
13296.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].text |
獨家致死 虐童 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].start |
13296.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].end |
13299.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].text |
性侵 以及這個詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].start |
13299.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].end |
13301.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].text |
重大詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].start |
13301.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].end |
13303.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].text |
排除在法律輔助的適用範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].start |
13303.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].end |
13305.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].text |
請您來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].start |
13307.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].end |
13309.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].text |
剛剛委員講的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].start |
13309.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].end |
13311.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].text |
都是強制辯護 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].start |
13311.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].end |
13313.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].text |
是不是要有法輔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].start |
13313.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].end |
13314.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].start |
13314.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].end |
13315.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].start |
13315.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].end |
13316.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].text |
做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].start |
13317.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].end |
13319.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].text |
這是我不覺得是一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].start |
13319.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].end |
13320.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].text |
好因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].start |
13320.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].end |
13321.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].text |
謝謝你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].start |
13321.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].end |
13322.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].text |
法輔沒有救一遍 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].start |
13322.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].end |
13323.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].start |
13323.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].end |
13325.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].text |
他就是一定要有辯護人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].start |
13325.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].end |
13326.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].start |
13326.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].end |
13327.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].text |
可是我們資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].start |
13327.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].end |
13328.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].text |
要分配的問題而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].start |
13328.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].end |
13329.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].start |
13329.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].end |
13331.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].text |
我非常感謝秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].start |
13331.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].end |
13332.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].text |
您的見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].start |
13332.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].end |
13334.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].text |
也是因應的社會大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].start |
13334.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].end |
13335.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].text |
很多人問我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].start |
13335.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].end |
13336.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].text |
為什麼江愛人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].start |
13336.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].end |
13338.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].text |
他得不到這些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].start |
13338.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].end |
13339.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].text |
我又是弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].start |
13340.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].end |
13342.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].text |
但是為什麼被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].start |
13342.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].end |
13344.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].text |
是這個這樣的一個情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].start |
13344.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].end |
13345.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].text |
刑事被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].start |
13345.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].end |
13347.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].text |
他竟然都幾乎九成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].start |
13347.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].end |
13349.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].text |
是用到我們的公堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].start |
13349.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].end |
13351.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].text |
我感動的是聽到秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].start |
13351.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].end |
13352.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].text |
你的論點跟我是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].start |
13352.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].end |
13354.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].text |
那我們是一樣的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].start |
13354.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].end |
13355.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].text |
接下來怎麼做呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].start |
13358.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].end |
13360.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].text |
當然犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].start |
13361.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].end |
13362.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].text |
被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].start |
13362.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].end |
13364.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].text |
因為無罪推定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].start |
13364.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].end |
13366.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].text |
這個是世界原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].start |
13366.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].end |
13368.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].text |
所以他一定會有辯護人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].start |
13368.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].end |
13370.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].text |
只是辯護人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].start |
13370.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].end |
13372.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].text |
尤其是強制辯護 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].start |
13373.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].end |
13374.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].text |
是分配的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].start |
13374.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].end |
13376.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].text |
在法輔呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].start |
13376.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].end |
13378.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].text |
還是要放議辯呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].start |
13378.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].end |
13380.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].text |
還是要放在法院的公辯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].start |
13380.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].end |
13381.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].text |
我覺得這是分配的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].start |
13381.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].end |
13382.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].start |
13382.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].end |
13383.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].text |
我們對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].start |
13383.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].end |
13384.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].text |
我們因應民情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].start |
13384.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].end |
13385.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].text |
要怎麼分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].start |
13385.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].end |
13386.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].start |
13387.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].end |
13388.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].text |
你的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].start |
13388.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].end |
13389.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].start |
13389.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].end |
13390.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].text |
委員有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].start |
13390.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].end |
13391.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].text |
剛剛提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].start |
13391.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].end |
13392.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].text |
這個幾大犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].start |
13392.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].end |
13393.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].start |
13393.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].end |
13394.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].text |
是不是要由法輔來承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].start |
13394.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].end |
13396.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].text |
我覺得這個是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].start |
13396.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].end |
13398.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].text |
立法政策的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].start |
13398.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].end |
13400.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].text |
我們司法院尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].start |
13400.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].end |
13401.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].text |
司法院尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].start |
13401.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].end |
13402.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].text |
所以你也同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].start |
13402.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].end |
13404.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].text |
剛剛本席所說的這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].start |
13404.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].end |
13405.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].start |
13405.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].end |
13406.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].text |
就我尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].start |
13406.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].end |
13407.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].text |
我不能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].start |
13407.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].end |
13408.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].text |
你尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].start |
13408.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].end |
13409.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].text |
我要謝謝你的尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].start |
13409.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].end |
13410.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].text |
我們希望能夠真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].start |
13410.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].end |
13411.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].text |
讓我們的公堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].start |
13411.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].end |
13413.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].text |
是運用在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].start |
13413.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].end |
13415.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].text |
我們當時成立的一個目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].start |
13415.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].end |
13418.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].text |
也就是保障落實司法的一個權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].start |
13418.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].end |
13419.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].text |
這個是非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].start |
13419.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].end |
13421.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].text |
我們朝這個目標來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].start |
13421.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].end |
13422.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].text |
那接下來我要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].start |
13422.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].end |
13423.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].start |
13423.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].end |
13424.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].text |
素質觀長期 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].start |
13425.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].end |
13427.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].text |
所以當時在葉金鳳擔任 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].start |
13427.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].end |
13428.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].text |
法務部長的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].start |
13428.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].end |
13430.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].text |
我們開始啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].start |
13430.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].end |
13432.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].text |
法務部跟司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].start |
13432.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].end |
13434.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].text |
司法院還動作跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].start |
13434.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].end |
13435.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].text |
比這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].start |
13435.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].end |
13438.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].text |
這個法務部還早了半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].start |
13438.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].end |
13440.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].text |
我們加了這個助理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].start |
13440.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].end |
13442.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].text |
這個名額進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].start |
13443.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].end |
13444.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].text |
但是我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].start |
13444.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].end |
13446.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].text |
書記官他的目的是要做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].start |
13446.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].end |
13448.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].text |
他是要協助法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].start |
13448.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].end |
13452.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].text |
在審理案件的這個核心精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].start |
13452.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].end |
13454.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].text |
他的工作量應該是如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].start |
13454.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].end |
13455.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].text |
但是現在法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].start |
13455.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].end |
13457.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].text |
這個書記官他要什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].start |
13457.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].end |
13458.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].text |
聽電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].start |
13458.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].end |
13459.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].text |
聽了這麼多的電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].start |
13459.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].end |
13460.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].text |
所以終於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].start |
13460.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].end |
13461.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].text |
你們也看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].start |
13461.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].end |
13463.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].text |
書記官的一個辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].start |
13463.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].end |
13464.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].text |
而且負荷不了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].start |
13464.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].end |
13466.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].text |
而且案件delay |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].start |
13466.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].end |
13468.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].text |
這樣子的一個惡性循環 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].start |
13468.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].end |
13470.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].text |
所以終於你們要成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].start |
13470.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].end |
13473.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].text |
這個全國電話中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].start |
13474.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].end |
13476.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].text |
什麼時候開始示範 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].start |
13476.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].end |
13478.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].text |
我們預計12月開始示範 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].start |
13478.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].end |
13479.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].text |
1月份要正式上嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].start |
13479.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].end |
13480.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].text |
我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].start |
13480.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].end |
13481.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].text |
正式運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].start |
13481.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].end |
13482.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].text |
1月份正式運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].start |
13482.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].end |
13483.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].text |
我們希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].start |
13483.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].end |
13484.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].text |
因為這個中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].start |
13484.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].end |
13486.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].text |
像剛剛委員也有質詢到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].start |
13486.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].end |
13487.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].text |
這個電話內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].start |
13487.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].end |
13489.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].text |
是要怎麼設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].start |
13489.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].end |
13491.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].text |
這是非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].start |
13491.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].end |
13492.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].text |
那最重要是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].start |
13492.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].end |
13494.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].text |
如委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].start |
13494.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].end |
13496.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].text |
我們希望書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].start |
13496.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].end |
13498.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].text |
不要因為接聽電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].start |
13498.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].end |
13501.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].text |
而打斷他的整個工作流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].start |
13501.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].end |
13502.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].text |
而且接聽電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].start |
13502.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].end |
13504.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].text |
是有他的專業性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].start |
13504.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].end |
13505.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].start |
13505.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].end |
13506.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].text |
你現在講到一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].start |
13506.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].end |
13507.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].text |
我們今天有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].start |
13507.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].end |
13509.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].text |
全國電話中心的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].start |
13509.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].end |
13511.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].text |
就是要減輕書記官的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].start |
13511.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].end |
13514.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].text |
好好的協助審判的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].start |
13514.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].end |
13515.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].text |
這些核心工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].start |
13515.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].end |
13518.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].text |
這才是在當書記官的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].start |
13518.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].end |
13519.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].text |
那所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].start |
13519.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].end |
13521.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].text |
我們非常的希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].start |
13521.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].end |
13523.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].text |
你不是只有把這個人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].start |
13523.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].end |
13524.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].text |
搬到那個人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].start |
13524.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].end |
13525.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].start |
13525.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].end |
13528.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].text |
而是你要重新好好的去盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].start |
13528.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].end |
13530.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].text |
書記官他的人力不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].start |
13530.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].end |
13532.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].text |
到底量體還有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].start |
13532.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].end |
13534.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].text |
真正的福地抽薪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].start |
13534.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].end |
13535.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].text |
去解決這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].start |
13535.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].end |
13537.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].text |
才是我們成立全國電話中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].start |
13537.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].end |
13538.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].text |
的一個目的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].start |
13538.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].end |
13539.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].start |
13539.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].end |
13542.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].text |
所以其實剛剛有委員提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].start |
13542.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].end |
13544.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].text |
其實我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].start |
13546.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].end |
13549.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].text |
所有人數受限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].start |
13549.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].end |
13551.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].text |
現在總共多少人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].start |
13551.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].end |
13555.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].text |
因為我們法定原額是15000人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].start |
13555.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].end |
13556.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].text |
實際原額呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].start |
13556.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].end |
13558.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].text |
已經快接近15000了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].start |
13558.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].end |
13561.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].text |
所以其實我們現在是想方設法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].start |
13561.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].end |
13564.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].text |
因為我們要增援太難了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].start |
13564.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].end |
13567.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].text |
所以一定要用各種方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].start |
13567.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].end |
13568.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].text |
可是書記官一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].start |
13568.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].end |
13569.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].text |
又做兩個人的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].start |
13569.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].end |
13571.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].text |
好謝謝秘書長的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].start |
13571.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].end |
13572.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].text |
我想我們共同的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].start |
13572.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].end |
13575.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].text |
第一個也就是整體進展 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].start |
13575.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].end |
13576.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].text |
整體進展去探討 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].start |
13577.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].end |
13579.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].text |
書記官他的工作量 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].start |
13579.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].end |
13581.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].text |
我們從這聽電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].start |
13581.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].end |
13583.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].text |
這個拉出來之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].start |
13583.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].end |
13585.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].text |
那他的量體人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].start |
13585.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].end |
13586.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].text |
到底是足還是不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].start |
13586.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].end |
13589.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].text |
要做一個整體的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].start |
13589.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].end |
13592.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].text |
那同時在全國電話中心裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].start |
13592.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].end |
13593.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].text |
我們整個的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].start |
13593.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].end |
13596.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].text |
必須要讓人民他是善用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].start |
13596.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].end |
13597.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].text |
而且是適用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].start |
13597.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].end |
13598.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].text |
這非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].start |
13598.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].end |
13601.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].text |
我們也期待12月的這個事辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].start |
13601.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].end |
13602.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].text |
他是成功的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].start |
13602.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].end |
13604.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].text |
1月份正式上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].start |
13604.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].end |
13605.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].start |
13606.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].end |
13608.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].text |
好謝謝顏委員的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].start |
13608.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].end |
13610.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].text |
我們接下來有請范雲委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].start |
13624.06 |
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13626.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].text |
謝謝昭瑋 |
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13626.06 |
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13628.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].text |
我第一題先請黃次長 |
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13628.06 |
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13630.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].text |
待會再請高秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].start |
13630.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].end |
13631.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].text |
請黃次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].start |
13632.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].end |
13633.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].start |
13633.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].end |
13634.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].text |
次長您好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].start |
13634.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].end |
13636.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].text |
今天主要是追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].start |
13636.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].end |
13639.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].text |
我4月30號首次質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].start |
13639.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].end |
13642.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].text |
7月22號再次質詢的主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].start |
13642.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].end |
13644.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].text |
就是請法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].start |
13644.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].end |
13646.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].text |
那研議各國的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].start |
13646.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].end |
13648.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].text |
就關於就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].start |
13648.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].end |
13651.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].text |
性侵罪裡面所謂的國際說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].start |
13651.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].end |
13653.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].text |
積極同意的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].start |
13653.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].end |
13655.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].text |
那7月22號的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].start |
13655.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].end |
13656.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].text |
剛好就是您 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].start |
13656.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].end |
13659.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].text |
就是您已經承諾說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].start |
13659.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].end |
13661.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].text |
兩個月內會提供可行性的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].start |
13661.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].end |
13663.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].text |
那次長還記得這件事嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].start |
13663.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].end |
13664.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].start |
13664.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].end |
13667.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].text |
就是這個Only Yes這個原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].start |
13667.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].end |
13669.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].text |
那我們當時承諾是要再去搜尋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].start |
13669.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].end |
13672.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].text |
委員有提到法國跟丹麥的立法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].start |
13672.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].end |
13674.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].text |
不要專門指引美國的立法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].start |
13674.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].end |
13675.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].start |
13675.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].end |
13677.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].text |
謝謝次長都有提到記得內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].start |
13677.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].end |
13679.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].text |
就不要只看美國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].start |
13679.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].end |
13681.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].text |
我們看丹麥跟法國這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].start |
13681.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].end |
13683.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].text |
就是在性別平等方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].start |
13683.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].end |
13685.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].text |
相當不錯的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].start |
13685.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].end |
13687.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].text |
那我今天主要是想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].start |
13687.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].end |
13689.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].text |
第一個怕你們忘記 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].start |
13689.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].end |
13691.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].text |
因為兩個月快到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].start |
13691.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].end |
13693.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].text |
第二個也再次告訴您 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].start |
13693.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].end |
13695.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].text |
為什麼特別關心這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].start |
13696.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].end |
13698.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].text |
那個次長您知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].start |
13698.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].end |
13700.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].text |
我們的國際公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].start |
13700.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].end |
13701.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].text |
就是CEDAW公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].start |
13701.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].end |
13703.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].text |
已經國內法化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].start |
13703.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].end |
13705.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].text |
那其中裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].start |
13705.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].end |
13707.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].text |
有談到性別暴力的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].start |
13707.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].end |
13711.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].text |
它就是基於性別歧視跟權力的壓迫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].start |
13711.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].end |
13712.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].text |
我想定義的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].start |
13712.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].end |
13713.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].text |
我就不再講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].start |
13713.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].end |
13715.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].text |
那我是特別提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].start |
13715.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].end |
13718.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].text |
裡面的第35號一般性建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].start |
13718.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].end |
13720.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].text |
其實就是在講這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].start |
13720.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].end |
13721.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].text |
他有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].start |
13721.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].end |
13724.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].text |
確保對包含婚內強姦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].start |
13724.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].end |
13726.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].text |
跟熟人強姦或約會強姦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].start |
13726.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].end |
13728.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].text |
等性犯罪的界定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].start |
13728.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].end |
13731.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].text |
以缺少自願同意為基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].start |
13731.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].end |
13734.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].text |
並將脅迫情形要考慮在內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].start |
13734.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].end |
13736.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].text |
所以這其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].start |
13736.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].end |
13738.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].text |
所謂的缺少自願同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].start |
13738.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].end |
13741.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].text |
就是我們現在在討論的這一題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].start |
13741.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].end |
13742.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].text |
那所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].start |
13742.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].end |
13744.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].text |
CEDAW的第二條就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].start |
13744.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].end |
13748.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].text |
立約國應該採取一切適當的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].start |
13748.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].end |
13750.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].text |
推行相關的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].start |
13750.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].end |
13754.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].text |
那也請法務部就是要落實這個公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].start |
13754.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].end |
13756.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].text |
再次研議各國立法經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].start |
13756.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].end |
13759.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].text |
評估刑法的妨害新竹罪章 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].start |
13759.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].end |
13762.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].text |
是不是應該要採積極同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].start |
13762.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].end |
13765.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].text |
所以這部分次長可以同意吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].start |
13765.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].end |
13766.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].text |
基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].start |
13766.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].end |
13767.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].start |
13767.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].end |
13768.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].text |
我們稍微直接承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].start |
13768.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].end |
13770.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].text |
兩個月內會在9月22號以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].start |
13770.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].end |
13772.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].text |
會把這相關的評估意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].start |
13772.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].end |
13776.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].text |
送到郭永輝跟委員的手上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].start |
13776.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].end |
13778.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].text |
好 那也希望就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].start |
13778.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].end |
13780.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].text |
你們在這過程中可以多看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].start |
13780.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].end |
13782.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].text |
已經國內法化的CEDAW公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].start |
13782.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].end |
13784.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].text |
他們對於剛剛我所講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].start |
13784.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].end |
13788.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].text |
就是所謂自願同意的一個各種的論述 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].start |
13788.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].end |
13790.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].text |
好不好 好 可以喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].start |
13790.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].end |
13791.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].text |
那謝謝請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].start |
13791.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].end |
13793.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].text |
那我們就期待你那個兩個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].start |
13793.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].end |
13794.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].text |
應該是什麼時候會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].start |
13794.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].end |
13797.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].text |
9月22號給我們的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].start |
13797.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].end |
13799.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].text |
那希望這一次能夠比上次更嚴謹 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].start |
13799.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].end |
13801.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].text |
能夠清楚看到各個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].start |
13801.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].end |
13802.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].text |
好不好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].start |
13804.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].end |
13806.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].text |
好 那再來請那個高秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].start |
13807.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].end |
13808.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].text |
好 有請高秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].start |
13811.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].end |
13812.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].text |
我又好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].start |
13812.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].end |
13817.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].text |
您好 我今天也是想了解那個法官學院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].start |
13817.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].end |
13823.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].text |
他怎麼去辦理就是CEDAW的各種相關的訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].start |
13823.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].end |
13827.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].text |
那我們知道法官學院其實有一些課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].start |
13827.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].end |
13833.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].text |
包含就是我看到有所謂的法官職前研習班 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].start |
13833.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].end |
13835.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].text |
然後也有2024年增設了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].start |
13835.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].end |
13838.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].text |
強化CEDAW於法院之運用專班 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].start |
13838.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].end |
13840.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].text |
還有你們也有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].start |
13840.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].end |
13843.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].text |
司法院級所屬各機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].start |
13843.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].end |
13846.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].text |
推動性別主流化的實施計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].start |
13846.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].end |
13848.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].text |
有一個計畫已經結束了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].start |
13848.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].end |
13850.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].text |
還有一個計畫正在進行中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].start |
13850.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].end |
13852.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].text |
這個院長應該了解對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].start |
13854.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].end |
13856.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].text |
這個實施計畫細節我不了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].start |
13856.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].end |
13858.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].text |
可是這是我們正在行充的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].start |
13858.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].end |
13862.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].text |
好 那您知不知道就是CEDAW的應用類 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].start |
13862.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].end |
13864.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].text |
跟司法院的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].start |
13864.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].end |
13866.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].text |
目前最被大家詬病的問題是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].start |
13868.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].end |
13870.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].text |
其實可以跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].start |
13870.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].end |
13874.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].text |
其實CEDAW這種理念 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].start |
13874.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].end |
13878.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].text |
真的是我們必須要讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].start |
13879.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].end |
13882.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].text |
這個法官們必須要去學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].start |
13882.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].end |
13884.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].text |
要去貫徹 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].start |
13884.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].end |
13888.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].text |
那這個我相信就是得要內化成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].start |
13888.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].end |
13889.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].text |
自己的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].start |
13889.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].end |
13890.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].text |
我不敢講信仰 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].start |
13890.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].end |
13893.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].text |
可是是自己必須要有思考模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].start |
13893.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].end |
13895.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].text |
這是我們司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].start |
13895.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].end |
13899.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].text |
一直在藉由課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].start |
13899.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].end |
13900.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].text |
藉由演講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].start |
13900.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].end |
13904.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].text |
希望法官不是只看到法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].start |
13904.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].end |
13906.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].text |
而是要去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].start |
13907.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].end |
13910.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].text |
你處理的當事人之間的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].start |
13910.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].end |
13912.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].text |
謝謝 好 那我想那個秘書長很了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].start |
13912.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].end |
13914.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].text |
那我想請問您 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].start |
13914.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].end |
13915.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].text |
那您如何知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].start |
13915.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].end |
13917.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].text |
法官到底懂不懂CEDAW |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].start |
13917.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].end |
13919.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].text |
我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].start |
13919.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].end |
13921.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].text |
就是說訓練了半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].start |
13921.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].end |
13923.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].text |
他們懂或不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].start |
13923.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].end |
13925.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].text |
我們的判準是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].start |
13925.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].end |
13926.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].start |
13927.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].end |
13930.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].text |
可能外界第一個就看你判決的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].start |
13932.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].end |
13935.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].text |
這個就是法官對外的語言表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].start |
13935.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].end |
13936.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].text |
就是從法官的判決對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].start |
13936.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].end |
13940.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].text |
對 還有他的整個審理過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].start |
13940.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].end |
13941.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].text |
審理的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].start |
13941.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].end |
13942.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].start |
13942.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].end |
13946.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].text |
那如果司法院重視這個東西的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].start |
13946.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].end |
13949.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].text |
你們有什麼機制來確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].start |
13949.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].end |
13951.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].text |
譬如說我們要跟其他國家比 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].start |
13951.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].end |
13954.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].text |
我們的法官真的懂了CEDAW |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].start |
13954.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].end |
13956.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].text |
而且落實在判決中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].start |
13956.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].end |
13958.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].text |
你這個指標是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].start |
13958.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].end |
13961.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].text |
我相信各位都能夠了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].start |
13961.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].end |
13962.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].text |
能夠考上法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].start |
13962.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].end |
13964.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].text |
他資質都不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].start |
13964.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].end |
13967.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].text |
他學習能力也應該不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].start |
13967.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].end |
13969.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].text |
可是我們要尊重他的獨立性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].start |
13969.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].end |
13972.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].text |
所以就司法院來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].start |
13972.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].end |
13974.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].text |
我們就是廣設課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].start |
13974.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].end |
13975.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].text |
而且是要要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].start |
13975.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].end |
13977.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].text |
我自己也是老師在上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].start |
13977.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].end |
13978.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].text |
上了半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].start |
13978.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].end |
13980.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].text |
有時候學生在滑手機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].start |
13980.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].end |
13982.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].text |
那所以到底如何知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].start |
13982.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].end |
13984.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].text |
學生有沒有學到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].start |
13984.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].end |
13986.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].text |
法官要上課的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].start |
13986.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].end |
13989.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].text |
他在法官學院也是學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].start |
13989.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].end |
13992.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].text |
那到底他有沒有學到CEDAW |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].start |
13992.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].end |
13995.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].text |
就是你們怎麼判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].start |
13995.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].end |
13998.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].text |
當然因為整個是學習課程的設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].start |
13998.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].end |
14001.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].text |
我相信這跟學習課程設計有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].start |
14001.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].end |
14002.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].text |
我們不用繞來繞去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].start |
14002.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].end |
14004.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].text |
你怎麼作為秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].start |
14004.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].end |
14006.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].text |
你怎麼知道法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].start |
14006.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].end |
14008.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].text |
有沒有了解CEDAW |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].start |
14008.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].end |
14010.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].text |
有應用在你剛講的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].start |
14010.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].end |
14012.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].text |
還有這個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].start |
14012.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].end |
14013.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].text |
最簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].start |
14013.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].end |
14015.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].text |
你有沒有任何的機制跟指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].start |
14015.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].end |
14017.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].text |
看判決就知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].start |
14017.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].end |
14018.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].text |
那你們怎麼看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].start |
14018.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].end |
14020.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].text |
他有沒有運用到CEDAW |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].start |
14022.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].end |
14023.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].start |
14023.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].end |
14026.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].text |
我們司法院對於法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].start |
14026.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].end |
14029.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].text |
是不是有去了解CEDAW |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].start |
14029.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].end |
14031.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].text |
當然是從判決來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].start |
14031.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].end |
14033.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].text |
那你們的了解結果是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].start |
14033.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].end |
14034.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].text |
你知不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].start |
14034.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].end |
14037.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].text |
當然我們要講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].start |
14037.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].end |
14039.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].text |
正在學習中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].start |
14039.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].end |
14040.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].text |
沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].start |
14040.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].end |
14041.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].text |
那他到底學習好了沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].start |
14044.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].end |
14045.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].text |
就是指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].start |
14046.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].end |
14048.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].text |
要求他一直學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].start |
14049.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].end |
14051.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].text |
因為我們不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].start |
14051.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].end |
14053.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].text |
這個一定是一直學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].start |
14053.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].end |
14054.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].text |
然後從 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].start |
14054.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].end |
14055.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].text |
然後從沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].start |
14055.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].end |
14057.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].text |
有沒有及格都不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].start |
14058.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].end |
14059.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].text |
一直開課 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].start |
14059.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].end |
14061.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].text |
不知道就是說學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].start |
14061.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].end |
14063.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].text |
法官是在滑手機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].start |
14063.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].end |
14065.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].text |
還是有學到CEDAW |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].start |
14065.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].end |
14066.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].start |
14066.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].end |
14067.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].text |
其實上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].start |
14067.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].end |
14068.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].text |
他是滑手機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].start |
14068.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].end |
14069.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].text |
當然不能講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].start |
14069.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].end |
14072.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].text |
可是從判決的呈現 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].start |
14073.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].end |
14074.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].text |
那判決怎麼呈現 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].start |
14074.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].end |
14076.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].text |
他有沒有了解CEDAW |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].start |
14076.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].end |
14077.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].text |
時間不夠了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].start |
14077.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].end |
14078.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].text |
真的沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].start |
14078.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].end |
14079.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].text |
在這邊繞了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].start |
14079.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].end |
14080.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].text |
您剛剛很多答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].start |
14080.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].end |
14081.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].text |
都答得這麼好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].start |
14081.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].end |
14083.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].text |
這麼直接還被稱讚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].start |
14083.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].end |
14084.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].text |
那這一題的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].start |
14084.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].end |
14085.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].text |
不是因為委員問的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].start |
14085.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].end |
14087.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].text |
這一定要從判決來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].start |
14087.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].end |
14089.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].text |
那判決你們有在看嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].start |
14089.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].end |
14090.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].start |
14090.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].end |
14091.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].text |
指標是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].start |
14091.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].end |
14092.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].text |
我們都在統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].start |
14092.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].end |
14093.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].text |
指標是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].start |
14093.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].end |
14095.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].text |
像他對於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].start |
14095.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].end |
14097.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].text |
這個什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].start |
14097.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].end |
14099.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].text |
等於判決分析一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].start |
14099.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].end |
14100.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].text |
那分析的結果是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].start |
14100.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].end |
14102.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].text |
當然我們還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].start |
14103.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].end |
14104.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].text |
在進步的必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].start |
14104.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].end |
14106.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].text |
不是現在的情況如何嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].start |
14108.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].end |
14109.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].text |
我當然不能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].start |
14109.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].end |
14110.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].text |
請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].start |
14110.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].end |
14111.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].text |
我很滿意 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].start |
14111.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].end |
14113.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].text |
那你不滿意的指標是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].start |
14113.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].end |
14116.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].text |
我覺得就是就個案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].start |
14116.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].end |
14119.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].text |
法官關於這些的思考度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].start |
14119.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].end |
14120.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].start |
14120.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].end |
14122.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].text |
你如果問我個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].start |
14122.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].end |
14124.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].text |
我覺得必須精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].start |
14124.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].end |
14125.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].text |
必須精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].start |
14125.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].end |
14126.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].start |
14126.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].end |
14127.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].text |
那但是你還是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].start |
14127.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].end |
14128.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].text |
跟我說指標啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].start |
14128.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].end |
14129.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].text |
我先跟你講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].start |
14129.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].end |
14131.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].text |
國際審查委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].start |
14131.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].end |
14133.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].text |
已經多次說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].start |
14133.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].end |
14135.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].text |
就是CEDAW的培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].start |
14135.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].end |
14138.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].text |
就是不只應該是必修科目 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].start |
14138.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].end |
14140.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].text |
那更應該從學校法律系所 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].start |
14140.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].end |
14142.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].text |
但那個部分不是你們管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].start |
14142.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].end |
14145.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].text |
檢察官以及法官的職前培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].start |
14145.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].end |
14146.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].text |
法務部也有關啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].start |
14146.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].end |
14147.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].text |
那法官這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].start |
14147.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].end |
14149.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].text |
當然是跟你們的法官學院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].start |
14149.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].end |
14151.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].text |
那當然我們有去查了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].start |
14151.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].end |
14153.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].text |
你們上課的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].start |
14153.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].end |
14156.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].text |
你們有44%的CEDAW |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].start |
14156.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].end |
14157.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].text |
或性別主流化課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].start |
14157.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].end |
14159.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].text |
是線上學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].start |
14159.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].end |
14162.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].text |
那我問了曾經幫你們上課的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].start |
14162.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].end |
14163.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].text |
他們真的不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].start |
14163.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].end |
14165.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].text |
線上學習的效果如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].start |
14165.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].end |
14167.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].text |
因為是線上嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].start |
14167.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].end |
14169.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].text |
那當然現場會比較好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].start |
14169.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].end |
14170.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].text |
我們假設比較好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].start |
14170.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].end |
14172.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].text |
但是因為你們沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].start |
14172.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].end |
14174.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].text |
任何的評量機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].start |
14174.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].end |
14175.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].text |
所以真的效果不確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].start |
14175.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].end |
14177.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].text |
只知道人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].start |
14177.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].end |
14179.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].text |
我們看到你們的指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].start |
14179.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].end |
14180.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].text |
就只有辦理場次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].start |
14180.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].end |
14183.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].text |
跟課程參訓率 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].start |
14183.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].end |
14184.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].text |
那但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].start |
14184.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].end |
14186.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].text |
就是國際公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].start |
14186.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].end |
14188.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].text |
今年國際審查委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].start |
14188.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].end |
14189.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].text |
他們都是聯合國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].start |
14189.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].end |
14191.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].text |
CEDAW國際審查委員喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].start |
14191.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].end |
14193.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].text |
他們再次提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].start |
14193.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].end |
14195.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].text |
你們應該要強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].start |
14195.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].end |
14199.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].text |
裁判書引用CEDAW的數量跟品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].start |
14199.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].end |
14202.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].text |
然後國際審查主席說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].start |
14202.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].end |
14205.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].text |
台灣把CEDAW國內法劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].start |
14205.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].end |
14208.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].text |
但是司法部門是否真正落實CEDAW |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].start |
14208.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].end |
14210.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].text |
是一大問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].start |
14210.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].end |
14215.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].text |
那如果裁判書引用CEDAW的數量跟品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].start |
14215.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].end |
14216.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].text |
我們來看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].start |
14216.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].end |
14219.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].text |
那真的非常的抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].start |
14219.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].end |
14220.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].text |
非常少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].start |
14220.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].end |
14222.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].text |
而且專家們喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].start |
14222.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].end |
14224.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].text |
就是司法改革團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].start |
14224.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].end |
14226.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].text |
認為你們的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].start |
14226.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].end |
14229.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].text |
混水的可能性很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].start |
14229.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].end |
14231.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].text |
就算有混水好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].start |
14231.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].end |
14234.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].text |
那以兒童權力公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].start |
14234.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].end |
14235.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].text |
兩公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].start |
14235.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].end |
14237.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].text |
身障公約比起 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].start |
14237.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].end |
14240.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].text |
CEDAW公約引用非常少耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].start |
14240.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].end |
14241.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].text |
兒童權力公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].start |
14241.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].end |
14243.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].text |
兒童的權力都比較被重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].start |
14243.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].end |
14245.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].text |
超過一萬件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].start |
14245.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].end |
14248.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].text |
CEDAW只有298件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].start |
14248.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].end |
14251.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].text |
而且要跟秘書長講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].start |
14251.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].end |
14253.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].text |
不是法官引用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].start |
14253.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].end |
14256.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].text |
是受害端 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].start |
14256.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].end |
14257.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].text |
所謂的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].start |
14257.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].end |
14259.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].text |
就是這一端引用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].start |
14259.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].end |
14263.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].text |
而且高度集中在引用同一個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].start |
14263.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].end |
14265.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].text |
所以很多時候算起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].start |
14265.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].end |
14267.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].text |
還不完全算是喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].start |
14267.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].end |
14268.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].text |
所以你們的法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].start |
14268.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].end |
14271.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].text |
幾乎很少引用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].start |
14271.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].end |
14274.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].text |
那更不用跟兒童權力公約比 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].start |
14275.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].end |
14278.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].text |
兩公約還有身障公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].start |
14278.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].end |
14279.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].text |
為什麼跟婦女 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].start |
14279.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].end |
14281.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].text |
這麼重要的這個CEDAW |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].start |
14281.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].end |
14284.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].text |
它幾乎不被你們的法官了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].start |
14284.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].end |
14286.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].text |
也很少被引用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].start |
14286.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].end |
14289.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].text |
那這真的是一大問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].start |
14289.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].end |
14291.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].text |
是不是一大問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].start |
14291.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].end |
14292.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].text |
就是說它難道不比 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].start |
14292.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].end |
14294.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].text |
兒童權力公約重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].start |
14294.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].end |
14296.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].text |
跟身障公約重要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].start |
14296.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].end |
14297.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].text |
而且幾乎都不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].start |
14297.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].end |
14299.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].text |
你們的法官在引用耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].start |
14299.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].end |
14301.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].text |
我只能跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].start |
14301.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].end |
14302.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].text |
因為CEDAW公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].start |
14302.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].end |
14304.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].text |
如果已經內化成我們的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].start |
14304.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].end |
14306.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].text |
我們法官就可能不會用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].start |
14306.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].end |
14307.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].text |
CEDAW公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].start |
14307.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].end |
14308.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].text |
不是CEDAW公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].start |
14308.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].end |
14309.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].text |
已經國內法化啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].start |
14309.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].end |
14311.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].text |
不對我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].start |
14311.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].end |
14314.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].text |
我們在具體法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].start |
14314.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].end |
14317.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].text |
如果是跟它符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].start |
14317.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].end |
14318.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].text |
當然法官就不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].start |
14318.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].end |
14319.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].text |
因為他如果根本就不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].start |
14319.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].end |
14321.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].text |
這個法條跟相關的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].start |
14321.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].end |
14322.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].text |
他就不會引用嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].start |
14322.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].end |
14323.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].text |
那不然為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].start |
14323.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].end |
14324.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].text |
兒童權力公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].start |
14324.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].end |
14326.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].text |
引用超過一萬次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].start |
14326.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].end |
14329.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].text |
對如果如委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].start |
14329.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].end |
14331.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].text |
是其實我剛剛跟委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].start |
14331.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].end |
14332.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].text |
已經扶養成員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].start |
14332.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].end |
14333.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].text |
我也扶養成員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].start |
14333.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].end |
14334.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].text |
沒有沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].start |
14334.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].end |
14335.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].text |
沒有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].start |
14335.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].end |
14337.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].text |
其實這個如委員所了解的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].start |
14337.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].end |
14339.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].text |
司法院關於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].start |
14339.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].end |
14340.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].text |
是一直在呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].start |
14340.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].end |
14341.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].text |
沒有我剛剛講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].start |
14341.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].end |
14343.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].text |
呼籲可能沒有用嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].start |
14343.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].end |
14345.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].text |
就是說你沒有指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].start |
14345.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].end |
14346.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].text |
你沒有在了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].start |
14346.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].end |
14347.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].text |
你沒有在精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].start |
14347.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].end |
14348.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].text |
可是跟委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].start |
14348.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].end |
14350.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].text |
那個指標是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].start |
14351.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].end |
14352.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].text |
當然我只能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].start |
14352.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].end |
14353.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].text |
我剛剛這個指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].start |
14353.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].end |
14354.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].text |
你也沒有說出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].start |
14354.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].end |
14355.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].text |
是我告訴您的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].start |
14355.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].end |
14358.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].text |
跟委員報告嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].start |
14358.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].end |
14359.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].text |
而且這指標很難看嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].start |
14359.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].end |
14360.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].text |
沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].start |
14360.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].end |
14362.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].text |
就說可是我必須說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].start |
14362.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].end |
14363.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].text |
他沒有引用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].start |
14363.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].end |
14365.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].text |
是因為我們相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].start |
14365.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].end |
14366.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].text |
有的呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].start |
14366.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].end |
14368.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].text |
還是說我們法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].start |
14368.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].end |
14369.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].text |
完全忽視 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].start |
14369.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].end |
14370.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].text |
我覺得法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].start |
14370.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].end |
14371.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].text |
那你現在連法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].start |
14371.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].end |
14372.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].text |
懂不懂CEDAW |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].start |
14372.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].end |
14373.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].text |
你都沒有辦法判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].start |
14373.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].end |
14375.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].text |
光上課我剛剛講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].start |
14375.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].end |
14377.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].text |
線上課程快要佔一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].start |
14377.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].end |
14379.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].text |
真的可能他在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].start |
14379.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].end |
14380.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].text |
同時做其他事嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].start |
14380.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].end |
14381.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].text |
因為上完課 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].start |
14381.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].end |
14383.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].text |
我上完了我註冊完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].start |
14383.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].end |
14386.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].text |
我出現在900什麼場次裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].start |
14386.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].end |
14388.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].text |
那但是那個三小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].start |
14388.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].end |
14390.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].text |
我幾小時我做到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].start |
14390.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].end |
14391.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].text |
他可能沒有學到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].start |
14391.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].end |
14392.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].text |
任何的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].start |
14392.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].end |
14393.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].text |
是不是有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].start |
14393.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].end |
14395.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].text |
我不能說沒有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].start |
14395.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].end |
14397.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].text |
可是我覺得不要輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].start |
14397.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].end |
14398.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].text |
沒有沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].start |
14398.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].end |
14400.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].text |
我跟那個委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].start |
14400.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].end |
14402.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].text |
但是從這個數字來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].start |
14402.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].end |
14403.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].text |
我們真的懷疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].start |
14403.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].end |
14404.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].text |
法官懂不懂這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].start |
14404.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].end |
14406.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].text |
CEDAW相關的這個國內法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].start |
14406.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].end |
14409.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].text |
當然就如同委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].start |
14409.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].end |
14410.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].text |
所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].start |
14410.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].end |
14411.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].text |
他比較懂兒童權利公約啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].start |
14411.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].end |
14412.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].text |
我們一直對沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].start |
14412.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].end |
14414.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].text |
其實從這個幾個看來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].start |
14414.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].end |
14417.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].text |
其實對於CEDAW的公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].start |
14417.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].end |
14418.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].text |
把它內化進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].start |
14418.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].end |
14420.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].text |
也是如委員所能夠了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].start |
14420.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].end |
14422.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].text |
我們一直在強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].start |
14422.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].end |
14424.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].text |
可是我不敢說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].start |
14424.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].end |
14426.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].text |
法官是不是完全Catch到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].start |
14426.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].end |
14427.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].text |
這是真的努力在努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].start |
14427.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].end |
14428.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].text |
你不敢說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].start |
14428.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].end |
14429.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].text |
因為你完全沒有一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].start |
14429.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].end |
14430.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].text |
了解他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].start |
14430.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].end |
14432.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].text |
是不是知道了CEDAW公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].start |
14435.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].end |
14438.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].text |
當然我們希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].start |
14438.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].end |
14440.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].text |
可是各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].start |
14440.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].end |
14441.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].text |
你要讓法官了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].start |
14441.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].end |
14443.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].text |
一定是上課嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].start |
14443.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].end |
14445.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].text |
對那你除了上課之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].start |
14445.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].end |
14446.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].text |
你如何知道上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].start |
14446.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].end |
14447.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].text |
有沒有效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].start |
14447.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].end |
14449.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].text |
為什麼你的法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].start |
14449.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].end |
14450.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].text |
就是這個學院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].start |
14450.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].end |
14452.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].text |
跟您這邊沒有任何的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].start |
14452.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].end |
14453.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].text |
更進一步的機制呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].start |
14454.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].end |
14456.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].text |
可是我相信對法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].start |
14456.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].end |
14457.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].text |
上課學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].start |
14457.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].end |
14459.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].text |
就是一個最重要的來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].start |
14459.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].end |
14462.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].text |
對 但是我自己也是大學老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].start |
14462.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].end |
14465.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].text |
上課很可能學生都在滑手機啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].start |
14466.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].end |
14468.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].text |
可是法官的學習重點是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].start |
14468.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].end |
14470.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].text |
他要應用在他的裁判 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].start |
14470.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].end |
14471.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].text |
他沒有應用嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].start |
14471.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].end |
14473.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].text |
CEDAW公約我們怎麼在鬼打牆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].start |
14473.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].end |
14475.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].text |
我們兩個在這邊重複 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].start |
14475.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].end |
14477.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].text |
我們時間已經超過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].start |
14477.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].end |
14478.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].start |
14478.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].end |
14479.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].text |
我們實際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].start |
14479.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].end |
14480.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].text |
改善機制是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].start |
14480.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].end |
14481.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].text |
好不好 秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].start |
14481.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].end |
14482.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].text |
改善機制是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].start |
14482.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].end |
14484.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].text |
如果增加CEDAW的應用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].start |
14484.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].end |
14486.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].text |
他不能夠離兒童權利公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].start |
14486.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].end |
14490.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].text |
298件對11800件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].start |
14491.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].end |
14492.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].start |
14492.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].end |
14494.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].text |
當然法官是靠上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].start |
14494.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].end |
14495.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].text |
就如同委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].start |
14495.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].end |
14497.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].text |
我們可能不是線上上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].start |
14497.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].end |
14500.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].text |
因為如果所呈現的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].start |
14500.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].end |
14502.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].text |
讓外界認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].start |
14502.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].end |
14503.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].text |
你法官太不重視了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].start |
14503.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].end |
14505.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].text |
當然對法官的教 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].start |
14505.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].end |
14507.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].text |
這個學習過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].start |
14507.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].end |
14508.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].text |
我們就會強制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].start |
14509.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].end |
14511.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].text |
那你用什麼方式來精進呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].start |
14511.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].end |
14513.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].text |
他們理不理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].start |
14513.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].end |
14514.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].text |
可以想出個方法吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].start |
14515.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].end |
14518.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].text |
最重要就是如委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].start |
14520.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].end |
14521.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].text |
法官是優秀的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].start |
14521.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].end |
14524.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].text |
我們當然認為法官很優秀 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].start |
14524.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].end |
14525.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].text |
他就是要來上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].start |
14527.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].end |
14528.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].text |
那是你們本來就規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].start |
14528.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].end |
14529.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].text |
他有時數嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].start |
14529.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].end |
14531.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].text |
對 可能如委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].start |
14531.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].end |
14533.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].text |
是不是可能你線上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].start |
14533.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].end |
14534.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].text |
是有沒有專心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].start |
14534.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].end |
14537.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].text |
不管是線上或者是實體 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].start |
14537.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].end |
14539.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].text |
都要有一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].start |
14539.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].end |
14543.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].text |
當然就線上來上課來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].start |
14543.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].end |
14544.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].text |
是有機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].start |
14544.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].end |
14546.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].text |
其實他有沒有學到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].start |
14546.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].end |
14548.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].text |
是我們現在要問的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].start |
14548.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].end |
14550.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].text |
那法官有沒有學到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].start |
14550.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].end |
14553.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].text |
就等於說他在裁判上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].start |
14553.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].end |
14556.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].text |
他在審判過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].start |
14556.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].end |
14557.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].text |
他有沒有表現 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].start |
14557.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].end |
14560.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].text |
審判是一個自然的落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].start |
14560.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].end |
14561.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].text |
但是就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].start |
14561.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].end |
14563.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].text |
這個是我們可以回來監測 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].start |
14563.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].end |
14564.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].text |
但我們不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].start |
14564.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].end |
14565.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].text |
直接影響他的審判 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].start |
14565.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].end |
14567.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].text |
他要獨立判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].start |
14567.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].end |
14569.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].text |
可是培訓有沒有效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].start |
14569.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].end |
14571.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].text |
我想時間有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].start |
14571.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].end |
14574.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].text |
這個部分是全國律師聯合會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].start |
14574.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].end |
14576.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].text |
跟台北律師公會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].start |
14576.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].end |
14577.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].text |
逐步去核對說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].start |
14577.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].end |
14578.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].text |
其實這個都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].start |
14578.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].end |
14580.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].text |
當事人自行引用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].start |
14580.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].end |
14581.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].text |
298件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].start |
14581.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].end |
14582.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].text |
很少是你們的法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].start |
14582.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].end |
14584.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].text |
而且高度引用同一個判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].start |
14584.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].end |
14586.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].text |
那基本上就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].start |
14586.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].end |
14589.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].text |
所以我們直接來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].start |
14589.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].end |
14592.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].text |
我覺得全體法官涵蓋率 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].start |
14592.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].end |
14594.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].text |
當然應該是你的憑良指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].start |
14594.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].end |
14597.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].text |
但是你要有憑良監督機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].start |
14597.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].end |
14598.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].start |
14598.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].end |
14600.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].text |
你到底去上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].start |
14600.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].end |
14601.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].text |
有沒有學到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].start |
14601.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].end |
14603.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].text |
你要找出憑良監督機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].start |
14603.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].end |
14605.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].text |
最後你要全面盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].start |
14605.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].end |
14607.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].text |
系統性的去研析 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].start |
14607.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].end |
14609.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].text |
CEDAW到底是面臨什麼挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].start |
14609.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].end |
14611.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].text |
為什麼大家都沒有引用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].start |
14611.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].end |
14614.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].text |
來增進我們CEDAW國際委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].start |
14614.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].end |
14617.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].text |
來台灣我們請他們來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].start |
14617.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].end |
14619.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].text |
每次都有提到吃法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].start |
14619.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].end |
14620.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].start |
14620.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].end |
14623.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].text |
那不應該浪費他們寶貴的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].start |
14623.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].end |
14624.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].text |
那多久之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].start |
14625.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].end |
14627.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].text |
我想不是立刻可以達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].start |
14627.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].end |
14628.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].text |
做法要不要出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].start |
14628.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].end |
14630.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].text |
多久之內可以給本席報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].start |
14631.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].end |
14633.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].text |
這個應該要三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].start |
14633.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].end |
14635.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].text |
是不是給我們三個月的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].start |
14635.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].end |
14636.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].text |
三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].start |
14636.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].end |
14637.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].text |
伸出方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].start |
14637.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].end |
14638.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].text |
兩個月可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].start |
14638.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].end |
14639.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].text |
方法三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].start |
14639.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].end |
14641.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].text |
因為這個還要跟法官學院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].start |
14641.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].end |
14642.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].text |
大家共同來共事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].start |
14642.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].end |
14644.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].text |
三個月現在是八月中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].start |
14644.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].end |
14645.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].text |
對 我十一月提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].start |
14645.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].end |
14646.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].text |
十一月中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].start |
14646.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].end |
14647.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].start |
14647.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].end |
14648.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].text |
好 中不要太低了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].start |
14648.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].end |
14650.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].text |
最重要是我們提出來要做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].start |
14650.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].end |
14651.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].text |
對 要做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].start |
14651.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].end |
14653.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].text |
我也不希望你那個應付我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].start |
14653.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].end |
14654.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].start |
14654.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].end |
14655.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].text |
對 重點在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].start |
14655.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].end |
14656.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].text |
那就三個月了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].start |
14656.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].end |
14658.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].text |
要有具體的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].start |
14658.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].end |
14659.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].text |
我們會方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].start |
14659.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].end |
14660.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].text |
不要再像我們今天這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].start |
14660.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].end |
14661.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].text |
對 沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].start |
14661.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].end |
14662.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].text |
無限循環 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].start |
14662.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].end |
14663.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].text |
好 謝謝秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].start |
14663.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].end |
14664.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].text |
好 謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].start |
14667.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].end |
14668.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].text |
好 謝謝范雲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].start |
14668.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].end |
14670.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].text |
接下來是蘇欽全委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].start |
14670.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].end |
14671.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].text |
蘇欽全委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].start |
14671.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].end |
14673.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].text |
蘇欽全委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].start |
14674.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].end |
14675.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].text |
鄭鄭前委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].start |
14675.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].end |
14676.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].text |
鄭鄭前委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].start |
14676.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].end |
14678.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].text |
鄭鄭前委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].start |
14678.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].end |
14680.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].text |
好 那接下來我們有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].start |
14680.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].end |
14682.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].text |
林淑芬委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].start |
14682.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].end |
14684.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].text |
好 那也提醒林淑芬委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].start |
14684.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].end |
14685.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].text |
我們今天的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].start |
14685.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].end |
14686.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].text |
外委會的委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].start |
14686.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].end |
14687.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].text |
質詢時間五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].start |
14687.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].end |
14689.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].text |
好 麻煩請您可以找我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].start |
14689.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].end |
14690.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].start |
14690.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].end |
14691.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].start |
14691.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].end |
14692.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].text |
是不是謝謝周偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].start |
14692.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].end |
14694.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].text |
我們請這個秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].start |
14696.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].end |
14697.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].text |
好 由心理書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].start |
14701.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].end |
14702.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].text |
秘書長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].start |
14702.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].end |
14704.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].text |
這個兩個禮拜以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].start |
14704.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].end |
14706.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].text |
我在這裡質詢你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].start |
14706.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].end |
14707.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].text |
我問你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].start |
14707.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].end |
14709.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].text |
司法院有沒有利用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].start |
14709.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].end |
14712.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].text |
行政院需要跟你們會諧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].start |
14712.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].end |
14715.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].text |
然後這個提刑法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].start |
14715.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].end |
14717.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].text |
獨價的修法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].start |
14717.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].end |
14719.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].text |
然後你們趁這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].start |
14719.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].end |
14721.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].text |
要求交換行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].start |
14721.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].end |
14723.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].text |
也要同意一起會諧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].start |
14723.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].end |
14726.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].text |
今天的刑事訴訟法的修法 |
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14726.13 |
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14728.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].text |
你當時說 |
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14728.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].end |
14730.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].text |
絕對沒有這件事 |
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14730.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].end |
14732.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].text |
你還說這個是對你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].start |
14732.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].end |
14734.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].text |
很大的侮辱 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].start |
14734.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].end |
14735.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].text |
絕對沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].start |
14735.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].end |
14737.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].text |
那你不但在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].start |
14737.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].end |
14738.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].text |
我質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].start |
14738.13 |
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14740.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].text |
否認有交換這一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].start |
14740.13 |
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14743.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].text |
事後你們還發布新聞稿 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].start |
14743.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].end |
14745.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].text |
再次的表示說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].start |
14745.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].end |
14748.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].text |
沒有交換這一件事 |
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14748.13 |
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14749.13 |
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對吧 |
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14749.13 |
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14750.13 |
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是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].start |
14751.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].end |
14752.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].text |
那你現在呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].start |
14752.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].end |
14755.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].text |
現在我再問你一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].start |
14755.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].end |
14757.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].text |
你還會不會否認 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].start |
14757.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].end |
14760.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].text |
你們拿司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].start |
14760.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].end |
14762.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].text |
需要跟行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].start |
14762.86 |
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14765.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].text |
一起會諧這個刑法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].start |
14765.86 |
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14766.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].text |
獨價修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].start |
14766.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].end |
14769.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].text |
然後去要求行政院交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].start |
14769.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].end |
14771.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].text |
也要同意會諧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].start |
14771.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].end |
14774.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].text |
今天的刑事訴訟法的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].start |
14774.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].end |
14775.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].text |
你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].start |
14776.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].end |
14777.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].start |
14777.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].end |
14778.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].text |
現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].start |
14778.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].end |
14779.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].text |
你再說一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].start |
14779.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].end |
14780.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].start |
14780.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].end |
14783.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].text |
我們絕對不會用作作代價 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].start |
14784.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].end |
14785.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].start |
14785.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].end |
14788.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].text |
那個行政院關於獨價過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].start |
14788.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].end |
14789.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].text |
我們三天就會寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].start |
14792.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].end |
14794.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].text |
我現在問你有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].start |
14794.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].end |
14795.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].text |
沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].start |
14795.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].end |
14796.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].text |
沒有來 |
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14796.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].end |
14797.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].text |
你來看這一張是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].start |
14798.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].end |
14800.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].text |
我今天要拿證據給你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].start |
14801.06 |
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14802.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].text |
這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].start |
14802.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].end |
14803.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].text |
訊息啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].start |
14803.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].end |
14804.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].text |
這個是Line啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].start |
14805.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].end |
14807.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].text |
這個是6月18號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].start |
14807.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].end |
14811.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].text |
你們貴院傳了一段文字訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].start |
14811.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].end |
14812.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].text |
給行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].start |
14812.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].end |
14814.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].text |
訊息的內容在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].start |
14815.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].end |
14817.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].text |
請請示秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].start |
14817.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].end |
14819.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].text |
其才事如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].start |
14819.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].end |
14820.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].text |
請參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].start |
14820.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].end |
14821.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].text |
第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].start |
14821.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].end |
14823.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].text |
須於今天內傳最終定案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].start |
14823.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].end |
14825.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].text |
把修正草案到本院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].start |
14825.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].end |
14826.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].text |
第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].start |
14826.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].end |
14827.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].text |
請告知 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].start |
14827.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].end |
14830.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].text |
散開刑事訴訟法修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].start |
14830.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].end |
14832.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].text |
減輕法官負擔的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].start |
14832.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].end |
14835.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].text |
的確切會選時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].start |
14835.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].end |
14838.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].text |
本院才會將刑法修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].start |
14838.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].end |
14840.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].text |
列入下週院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].start |
14840.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].end |
14841.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].start |
14841.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].end |
14842.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].start |
14842.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].end |
14843.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].text |
你們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].start |
14844.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].end |
14845.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].text |
6月18號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].start |
14845.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].end |
14847.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].text |
你們列入你們通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].start |
14847.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].end |
14848.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].text |
送到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].start |
14848.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].end |
14849.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].text |
你們的新聞稿是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].start |
14849.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].end |
14851.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].text |
6月25號你們院會通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].start |
14851.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].end |
14852.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].text |
司法院院會通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].start |
14852.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].end |
14853.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].start |
14853.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].end |
14854.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].text |
看清楚了沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].start |
14855.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].end |
14857.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].text |
我沒有做這樣才是喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].start |
14857.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].end |
14860.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].text |
這段文字的內容這麼清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].start |
14860.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].end |
14863.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].text |
要求行政院要確切的告知 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].start |
14863.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].end |
14866.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].text |
行政院對今天的刑事訴訟法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].start |
14866.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].end |
14867.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].text |
修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].start |
14867.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].end |
14870.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].text |
什麼時候要一起會選 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].start |
14870.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].end |
14871.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].text |
會選 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].start |
14871.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].end |
14874.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].text |
司法院才要將刑法獨家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].start |
14874.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].end |
14876.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].text |
修法案排入司法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].start |
14876.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].end |
14877.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].text |
院會審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].start |
14878.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].end |
14881.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].text |
你這明白的就是交換不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].start |
14881.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].end |
14884.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].text |
要求行政院要同意你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].start |
14884.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].end |
14887.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].text |
今天的刑事訴訟法的修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].start |
14887.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].end |
14890.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].text |
你們才要同意行政院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].start |
14890.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].end |
14892.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].text |
刑法獨家的修法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].start |
14893.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].end |
14895.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].text |
文字的內容你看清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].start |
14896.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].end |
14898.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].text |
盡請示秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].start |
14898.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].end |
14900.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].text |
秘書長就是你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].start |
14900.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].end |
14902.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].text |
盡秘書長才是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].start |
14903.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].end |
14904.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].text |
才是的也是你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].start |
14905.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].end |
14906.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].start |
14908.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].end |
14909.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].text |
你才是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].start |
14909.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].end |
14911.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].text |
人家請示你你才是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].start |
14911.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].end |
14914.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].text |
要求行政院要交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].start |
14914.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].end |
14917.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].text |
你要我會選獨家的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].start |
14917.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].end |
14918.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].text |
那我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].start |
14918.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].end |
14922.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].text |
要這個簡化裁判書的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].start |
14922.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].end |
14924.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].text |
你也要跟我一起會選 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].start |
14925.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].end |
14927.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].text |
你在這裡說沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].start |
14927.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].end |
14929.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].text |
你說絕對沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].start |
14929.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].end |
14931.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].text |
證據在這裡你還可以繼續說沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].start |
14931.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].end |
14932.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].text |
第一個第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].start |
14932.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].end |
14935.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].text |
你還說這個是對你們的侮辱 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].start |
14935.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].end |
14938.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].text |
請問現在是誰在侮辱誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].start |
14938.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].end |
14941.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].text |
難道不是你在侮辱全國民眾嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].start |
14941.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].end |
14944.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].text |
難道不是你在侮辱全國 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].start |
14944.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].end |
14947.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].text |
兢兢業業工作的法官嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].start |
14948.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].end |
14952.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].text |
司法院的高層在這裡在國會殿堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].start |
14952.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].end |
14955.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].text |
可以這樣子的說謊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].start |
14955.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].end |
14957.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].text |
你要人民如何相信司法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].start |
14958.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].end |
14959.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].text |
難怪大家都在講啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].start |
14959.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].end |
14960.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].text |
司法要改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].start |
14960.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].end |
14962.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].text |
剛才王世堅委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].start |
14962.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].end |
14965.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].text |
人民對司法的信任度非常低 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].start |
14965.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].end |
14967.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].text |
比立法院還要低啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].start |
14968.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].end |
14970.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].text |
但是看來看去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].start |
14970.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].end |
14973.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].text |
最該改革的是司法院的高層啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].start |
14976.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].end |
14978.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].text |
證據在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].start |
14978.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].end |
14981.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].text |
你要不要跟人民道歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].start |
14981.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].end |
14984.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].text |
跟認真努力的法官道歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].start |
14985.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].end |
14987.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].text |
這不是交換什麼是交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].start |
14987.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].end |
14989.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].start |
14989.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].end |
14991.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].text |
啊 跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].start |
14991.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].end |
14995.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].text |
我絕對沒有才是剛剛委員講的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].start |
14995.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].end |
14996.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].text |
那這個是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].start |
14996.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].end |
14997.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].text |
6月18號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].start |
14997.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].end |
15000.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].text |
好 那我就這個我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].start |
15000.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].end |
15003.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].text |
這個字眼是不是請示你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].start |
15003.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].end |
15004.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].text |
你才是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].start |
15004.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].end |
15005.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].text |
可是委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].start |
15005.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].end |
15006.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].text |
如果要說的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].start |
15006.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].end |
15010.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].text |
我們是要告訴請他們告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].start |
15010.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].end |
15012.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].text |
確切的會寫時間而已喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].start |
15012.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].end |
15014.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].text |
你可以在這裡硬拗 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].start |
15014.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].end |
15017.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].text |
你這裡講說本院才會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].start |
15017.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].end |
15020.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].text |
將刑法修正案列入你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].start |
15020.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].end |
15022.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].text |
6月25號的院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].start |
15024.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].end |
15028.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].text |
那個委員可不可以請我們那個刑事廳 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].start |
15028.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].end |
15029.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].text |
你們刑事廳 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].start |
15029.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].end |
15031.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].text |
這裡面有寫刑事廳嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].start |
15031.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].end |
15035.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].text |
這裡講的是請示你高大秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].start |
15035.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].end |
15038.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].text |
請你高大秘書長才是耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].start |
15039.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].end |
15040.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].text |
你再說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].start |
15040.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].end |
15041.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].text |
當天我質詢你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].start |
15041.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].end |
15043.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].text |
你說絕對沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].start |
15043.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].end |
15046.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].text |
現在說好 我叫廳長來解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].start |
15046.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].end |
15047.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].text |
是你要解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].start |
15047.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].end |
15048.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].text |
不是廳長要解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].start |
15048.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].end |
15051.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].text |
因為我確實沒有做這樣的差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].start |
15051.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].end |
15053.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].text |
那你的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].start |
15053.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].end |
15055.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].text |
傳達表達意見的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].start |
15055.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].end |
15058.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].text |
可能表達意見他的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].start |
15058.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].end |
15062.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].text |
所以我說要請他來跟委員解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].start |
15062.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].end |
15066.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].text |
沒錯 你剛才跟兩位拜訪說話說得很差 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].start |
15066.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].end |
15070.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].text |
就像剛才王世堅委員指教你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].start |
15070.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].end |
15072.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].text |
你剛才質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].start |
15072.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].end |
15075.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].text |
可以當場訓斥法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].start |
15075.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].end |
15079.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].text |
或許王世堅委員他講的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].start |
15079.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].end |
15082.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].text |
你對我們法務部次長的講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].start |
15082.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].end |
15084.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].text |
非常的不客氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].start |
15084.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].end |
15086.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].text |
但是或許你自己不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].start |
15086.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].end |
15090.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].text |
你經常的就是這樣子講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].start |
15090.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].end |
15094.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].text |
所以你個人交代下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].start |
15094.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].end |
15096.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].text |
人家把你原封不動的原意 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].start |
15096.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].end |
15099.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].text |
這樣子講給行政院的人聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].start |
15099.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].end |
15101.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].text |
報告委員喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].start |
15101.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].end |
15103.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].text |
這個是一段的line |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].start |
15103.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].end |
15105.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].text |
一段的line沒有錯啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].start |
15105.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].end |
15107.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].text |
你承認這個是事實吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].start |
15107.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].end |
15109.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].text |
這個line是有這個line |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].start |
15109.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].end |
15112.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].text |
但是這個line跟你講的交換完全兩回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].start |
15112.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].end |
15115.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].text |
第一個你們承認這個line的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].start |
15115.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].end |
15117.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].text |
真的是存在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].start |
15117.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].end |
15121.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].text |
第二個你們認為解讀這幾個字的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].start |
15121.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].end |
15123.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].text |
你們的解讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].start |
15123.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].end |
15126.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].text |
跟我們社會大眾的解讀不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].start |
15126.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].end |
15128.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].text |
這個怎麼會是交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].start |
15128.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].end |
15130.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].text |
我現在就是交換啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].start |
15130.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].end |
15132.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].text |
請告知啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].start |
15132.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].end |
15135.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].text |
你們刑事訴訟法何時要一起彙嫌啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].start |
15135.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].end |
15139.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].text |
我們才要將你的獨家修法一起彙嫌 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].start |
15139.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].end |
15141.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].text |
在院會通過啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].start |
15141.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].end |
15143.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].text |
這個彙嫌25號就召開院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].start |
15143.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].end |
15145.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].text |
這跟我們向人彙嫌的習慣是不符的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].start |
15145.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].end |
15148.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].text |
6月18號你們問行政部門的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].start |
15148.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].end |
15150.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].text |
然後6月22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].start |
15150.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].end |
15155.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].text |
人家行政院的人不願意跟你一起彙嫌 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].start |
15155.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].end |
15156.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].text |
然後公文就給你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].start |
15156.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].end |
15160.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].text |
你們也只能6月25趕快通過獨家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].start |
15160.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].end |
15162.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].text |
我現在意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].start |
15162.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].end |
15164.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].text |
這個跟你無關啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].start |
15164.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].end |
15166.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].text |
你不要跳進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].start |
15166.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].end |
15168.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].text |
護航你們的秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].start |
15168.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].end |
15170.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].text |
秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].start |
15170.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].end |
15174.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].text |
這你的事情不要擺大附屬的下賤啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].start |
15174.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].end |
15176.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].text |
請你答詢啊秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].start |
15176.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].end |
15180.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].text |
你不應該跟全國人民道歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].start |
15180.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].end |
15185.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].text |
有關人民交通安全最重要的獨家的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].start |
15185.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].end |
15188.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].text |
竟然是你拿來交換的籌碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].start |
15188.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].end |
15190.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].text |
重點是交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].start |
15190.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].end |
15192.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].text |
草案我們積極幫助來研擬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].start |
15192.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].end |
15194.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].text |
6月25號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].start |
15194.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].end |
15196.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].text |
就是你們那天講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].start |
15196.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].end |
15200.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].text |
下週院會就是6月25號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].start |
15200.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].end |
15202.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].text |
好來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].start |
15203.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].end |
15205.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].text |
秘書長我繼續問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].start |
15205.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].end |
15207.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].text |
行政院就是不同意交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].start |
15207.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].end |
15209.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].text |
所以今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].start |
15209.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].end |
15211.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].text |
今天沒有看到兩院一起彙嫌的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].start |
15211.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].end |
15215.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].text |
刑事訴訟法的修正版本嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].start |
15215.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].end |
15217.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].text |
沒有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].start |
15217.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].end |
15219.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].text |
因為行政院不同意啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].start |
15219.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].end |
15221.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].text |
人家不願意啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].start |
15221.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].end |
15224.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].text |
那你剛才在那裡躲在聽長的後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].start |
15224.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].end |
15226.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].text |
叫聽長叫他上前線 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].start |
15226.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].end |
15228.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].text |
這件事情是你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].start |
15228.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].end |
15229.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].text |
不是聽長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].start |
15229.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].end |
15233.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].text |
他是告知會協時間跟交換會協的兩件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].start |
15233.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].end |
15237.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].text |
這一段文字交給媒體交給全國民眾去解讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].start |
15237.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].end |
15241.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].text |
看是你們凹得不凹得過去啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].start |
15241.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].end |
15243.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].text |
那我現在要講回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].start |
15243.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].end |
15245.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].text |
我們這一次刑事訴訟法的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].start |
15247.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].end |
15249.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].text |
秘書長你就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].start |
15250.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].end |
15252.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].text |
絕對死不認錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].start |
15252.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].end |
15254.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].text |
絕不道歉是不是你先回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].start |
15257.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].end |
15259.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].text |
也應該要道歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].start |
15259.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].end |
15261.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].text |
這段文字有沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].start |
15261.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].end |
15263.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].text |
真的我要必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].start |
15264.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].end |
15266.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].text |
我沒有躲在任何地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].start |
15266.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].end |
15268.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].text |
來啦我問你這一段文字有沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].start |
15268.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].end |
15270.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].text |
這樣的講法有沒有錯啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].start |
15270.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].end |
15272.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].text |
我們只是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].start |
15272.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].end |
15274.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].text |
因為我們只是問你東西來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].start |
15274.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].end |
15276.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].text |
沒有不要再硬啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].start |
15276.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].end |
15278.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].text |
你就告訴我你覺得我這樣寫沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].start |
15278.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].end |
15280.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].text |
你也可以這樣子講啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].start |
15280.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].end |
15282.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].text |
這個是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].start |
15282.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].end |
15284.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].text |
或者是你覺得這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].start |
15284.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].end |
15286.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].text |
我口直心快我講太快了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].start |
15286.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].end |
15288.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].text |
我沒有這個心或許表達的不恰當 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].start |
15288.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].end |
15290.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].text |
我很抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].start |
15291.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].end |
15293.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].text |
但是你認為完全 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].start |
15293.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].end |
15295.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].text |
你這樣子講都沒有錯嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].start |
15296.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].end |
15298.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].text |
你這樣講都沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].start |
15298.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].end |
15300.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].start |
15300.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].end |
15302.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].text |
我們怎麼可能用交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].start |
15302.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].end |
15304.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].text |
如果要交換我們為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].start |
15304.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].end |
15306.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].text |
要殺人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].start |
15306.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].end |
15308.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].text |
什麼叫做你要告訴我們會審時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].start |
15308.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].end |
15310.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].text |
我們才會將 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].start |
15310.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].end |
15312.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].text |
刑法修正案的獨家案列入 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].start |
15312.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].end |
15314.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].text |
下州院會才會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].start |
15314.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].end |
15316.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].text |
這個不是要求交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].start |
15316.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].end |
15318.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].text |
那是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].start |
15318.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].end |
15320.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].text |
可是如果從那如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].start |
15320.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].end |
15322.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].text |
人家不要呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].start |
15322.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].end |
15324.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].text |
你也無可奈何啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].start |
15325.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].end |
15327.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].text |
我們本來就列入啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].start |
15328.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].end |
15330.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].text |
沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].start |
15330.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].end |
15332.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].text |
6月18你要求人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].start |
15332.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].end |
15334.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].text |
這樣做人家6月22不理你 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].start |
15334.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].end |
15336.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].text |
你也只能摸摸鼻子啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].start |
15336.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].end |
15338.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].text |
所以好啦不要在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].start |
15338.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].end |
15340.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].text |
自取其辱了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].start |
15340.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].end |
15342.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].text |
不要再硬拗了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].start |
15342.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].end |
15344.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].text |
不要在這裡胡說八道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].start |
15344.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].end |
15346.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].text |
你司法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].start |
15346.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].end |
15348.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].text |
最高現在最高主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].start |
15348.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].end |
15350.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].text |
整個一年沒議長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].start |
15350.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].end |
15352.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].text |
沒婚姻議長你現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].start |
15352.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].end |
15354.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].text |
閉事長你是上官的主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].start |
15354.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].end |
15356.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].text |
你這樣率身先足 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].start |
15356.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].end |
15358.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].text |
做給其他的法官看嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].start |
15358.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].end |
15360.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].text |
你要叫大家歡喜法官啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].start |
15360.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].end |
15362.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].text |
大家都要上行下效 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].start |
15362.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].end |
15364.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].text |
我們閉事長後輩說就好了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].start |
15364.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].end |
15366.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].text |
我們大家都 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].start |
15366.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].end |
15368.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].text |
閉事長說話不用扶著 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].start |
15368.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].end |
15370.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].text |
就好了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].start |
15370.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].end |
15372.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].text |
你這樣子是可以的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].start |
15372.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].end |
15374.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].start |
15374.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].end |
15376.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].text |
沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].start |
15376.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].end |
15378.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].text |
你說當時我們是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].start |
15378.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].end |
15380.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].text |
刑事訴訟法的需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].start |
15380.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].end |
15382.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].text |
可是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].start |
15382.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].end |
15384.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].text |
只是問他說你可不可以告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].start |
15384.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].end |
15386.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].text |
我們沒有什麼條件的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].start |
15386.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].end |
15388.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].text |
不要在這裡講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].start |
15388.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].end |
15390.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].text |
沒有條件你要先告訴我時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].start |
15390.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].end |
15392.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].text |
我才會把你納入院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].start |
15392.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].end |
15394.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].text |
這個不是條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].start |
15394.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].end |
15396.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].text |
這個不是條件這個不是開條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].start |
15396.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].end |
15398.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].text |
什麼叫開條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].start |
15398.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].end |
15400.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].text |
不要再講啦我知道你這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].start |
15400.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].end |
15402.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].text |
四阿年水杯絕不道歉絕不認錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].start |
15402.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].end |
15404.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].text |
在這裡硬拗 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].start |
15404.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].end |
15406.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].text |
然後做給全國的法官看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].start |
15406.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].end |
15408.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].text |
以後你們都要選你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].start |
15408.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].end |
15410.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].text |
秘書長都這樣子做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].start |
15410.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].end |
15412.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].text |
做給全國的人民看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].start |
15412.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].end |
15414.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].text |
不怪書法的信任度 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].start |
15414.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].end |
15416.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].text |
人民的觀感比立法院還要慘 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].start |
15416.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].end |
15418.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].text |
我們還請他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].start |
15418.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].end |
15420.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].text |
比立法院還要慘 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].start |
15420.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].end |
15422.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].text |
不要在這裡拗了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].start |
15422.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].end |
15424.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].text |
然後這次刑事訴訟法修法在310條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].start |
15424.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].end |
15426.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].text |
有一個簡化書 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].start |
15426.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].end |
15428.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].text |
簡化判決書的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].start |
15428.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].end |
15430.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].text |
修法啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].start |
15430.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].end |
15432.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].text |
這裡本來是有罪判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].start |
15432.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].end |
15434.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].text |
預知六個月以下有期徒刑或拘獄 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].start |
15434.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].end |
15436.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].text |
得一科罰金罰金免刑者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].start |
15436.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].end |
15438.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].text |
其判決書得盡記載判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].start |
15438.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].end |
15440.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].text |
阻文犯罪事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].start |
15440.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].end |
15442.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].text |
證據名稱對被告有利證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].start |
15442.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].end |
15444.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].text |
不採納的理由及應 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].start |
15444.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].end |
15446.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].text |
適用的條文現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].start |
15446.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].end |
15448.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].text |
就是你們的核心了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].start |
15448.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].end |
15450.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].text |
就是你剛才還說不差的很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].start |
15450.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].end |
15452.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].text |
你們要放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].start |
15452.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].end |
15454.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].text |
修法放寬把六個月以下改成 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].start |
15454.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].end |
15456.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].text |
兩年以下嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].start |
15456.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].end |
15458.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].text |
來我隨便喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].start |
15458.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].end |
15460.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].text |
這個到網路上拿一件簡化判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].start |
15460.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].end |
15462.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].text |
長什麼樣子給大家看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].start |
15462.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].end |
15464.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].text |
這是公開的資料只有兩頁來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].start |
15464.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].end |
15466.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].text |
現行的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].start |
15466.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].end |
15468.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].text |
是判六個月以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].start |
15468.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].end |
15470.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].text |
可以簡化判決書都是很輕微的罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].start |
15470.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].end |
15472.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].text |
大家也不會有意見啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].start |
15472.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].end |
15474.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].text |
來簡化判決書上面阻文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].start |
15474.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].end |
15476.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].text |
第二個犯罪事實第三犯罪名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].start |
15476.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].end |
15478.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].text |
證據名稱再來是 |
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15478.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].end |
15480.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].text |
應適用的法條上述的小事 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].start |
15480.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].end |
15482.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].text |
來就是這樣子嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].start |
15482.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].end |
15484.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].text |
這個裡面少了什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].start |
15484.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].end |
15486.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].text |
這個裡面少了什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].start |
15486.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].end |
15488.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].text |
這個裡面不會記載 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].start |
15488.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].end |
15490.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].text |
認定犯罪事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].start |
15490.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].end |
15492.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].text |
的理由是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].start |
15492.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].end |
15494.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].text |
對於被告有利的證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].start |
15494.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].end |
15496.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].text |
不採納的理由是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].start |
15496.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].end |
15498.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].text |
科刑時就刑法5758 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].start |
15498.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].end |
15500.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].text |
規定事項所審判的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].start |
15500.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].end |
15502.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].text |
你為什麼給他加重 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].start |
15502.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].end |
15504.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].text |
為什麼給他減輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].start |
15504.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].end |
15506.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].text |
為什麼給他免除 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].start |
15506.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].end |
15508.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].text |
他的理由是什麼都不用寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].start |
15508.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].end |
15510.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].text |
然後你為什麼你預知他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].start |
15510.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].end |
15512.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].text |
緩刑沒收保安處分的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].start |
15512.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].end |
15514.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].text |
是什麼給他緩刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].start |
15514.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].end |
15516.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].text |
理由是什麼不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].start |
15516.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].end |
15518.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].text |
軍非必要記載事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].start |
15518.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].end |
15520.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].text |
好我現在講 |
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15520.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].end |
15522.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].text |
你六個月以下請罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].start |
15522.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].end |
15524.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].text |
簡化判決書我們大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].start |
15524.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].end |
15526.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].text |
全體人民都有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].start |
15526.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].end |
15528.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].text |
減輕法官負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].start |
15528.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].end |
15530.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].text |
更何況是請罪大家都 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].start |
15530.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].end |
15532.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].text |
都有共識沒關係可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].start |
15532.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].end |
15534.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].text |
你們現在不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].start |
15534.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].end |
15536.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].text |
這樣子的你們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].start |
15536.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].end |
15538.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].start |
15538.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].end |
15540.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].start |
15540.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].end |
15542.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].text |
只要兩年以下的判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].start |
15542.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].end |
15544.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].text |
全部簡化完全 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].start |
15544.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].end |
15546.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].text |
不必寫理由那我現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].start |
15546.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].end |
15548.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].text |
跟你討論什麼罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].start |
15548.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].end |
15550.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].text |
可以判在兩年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].start |
15550.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].end |
15552.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].text |
來第一種今天大家高度 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].start |
15552.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].end |
15554.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].text |
關注高度過社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].start |
15554.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].end |
15556.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].text |
關注的譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].start |
15556.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].end |
15558.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].text |
食安事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].start |
15559.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].end |
15561.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].text |
不要講中年有指這個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].start |
15561.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].end |
15563.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].text |
一般的就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].start |
15563.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].end |
15565.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].text |
食安事件食安法第49條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].start |
15565.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].end |
15567.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].text |
第一項規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].start |
15569.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].end |
15571.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].text |
你違反有15條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].start |
15571.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].end |
15573.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].text |
第一項第三款第七款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].start |
15573.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].end |
15575.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].text |
第十款處七年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].start |
15575.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].end |
15577.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].text |
第二項有44條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].start |
15577.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].end |
15579.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].text |
到全條行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].start |
15579.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].end |
15581.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].text |
刑結重大者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].start |
15581.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].end |
15583.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].text |
也是一樣七年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].start |
15583.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].end |
15585.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].text |
以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].start |
15585.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].end |
15589.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].text |
第15條第1項第3款第7款第10款是什麼來看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].start |
15592.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].end |
15598.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].text |
第15條違反第1項第3款第7款第10款7年以下是指 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].start |
15598.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].end |
15600.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].text |
含有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].start |
15599.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].end |
15603.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].text |
有毒或含有有害人體健康的物質或異物中年有指今天就是這一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].start |
15603.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].end |
15605.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].text |
或者是你摻維或是假冒 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].start |
15605.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].end |
15607.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].text |
或是添加未經中央主管機關許可的添加物 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].start |
15607.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].end |
15609.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].text |
好來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].start |
15612.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].end |
15622.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].text |
立法者我們所定的法定行動是七年以下有期徒刑法官可不可以判兩年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].start |
15623.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].end |
15625.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].text |
因為就符合你們的簡化判決書了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].start |
15625.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].end |
15627.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].text |
為什麼判兩年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].start |
15627.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].end |
15629.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].text |
不用寫理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].start |
15630.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].end |
15632.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].text |
好來有沒有可能判決兩年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].start |
15632.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].end |
15634.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].text |
當然了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].start |
15634.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].end |
15636.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].text |
符合他的罪責是符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].start |
15636.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].end |
15638.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].text |
各位聽清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].start |
15638.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].end |
15640.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].text |
你 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].start |
15639.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].end |
15641.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].text |
第一假冒摻維 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].start |
15641.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].end |
15643.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].text |
或者是含有毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].start |
15643.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].end |
15645.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].text |
有害人體健康的衣物 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].start |
15645.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].end |
15647.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].text |
或是添加未許可的添加物 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].start |
15647.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].end |
15649.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].text |
你七年以下還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].start |
15649.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].end |
15651.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].text |
有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].start |
15651.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].end |
15653.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].text |
有可能會被判兩年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].start |
15653.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].end |
15655.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].text |
法定行七年但是判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].start |
15656.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].end |
15658.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].text |
在兩年以下都有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].start |
15658.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].end |
15662.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].text |
但是你的判決書全部簡化以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].start |
15662.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].end |
15664.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].text |
有罪的理由全部都看不到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].start |
15664.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].end |
15666.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].text |
我剛剛念的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].start |
15666.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].end |
15668.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].text |
你認定犯罪為事實的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].start |
15668.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].end |
15670.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].text |
時間要長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].start |
15670.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].end |
15672.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].text |
已經超過十分鐘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].start |
15672.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].end |
15674.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].text |
對於你審酌他的情形給他加重或減輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].start |
15674.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].end |
15676.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].text |
或者是免除 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].start |
15676.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].end |
15678.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].start |
15678.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].end |
15680.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].text |
我們不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].start |
15680.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].end |
15682.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].text |
理由是什麼不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].start |
15682.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].end |
15684.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].text |
你有沒有給他緩刑沒收保安處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].start |
15684.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].end |
15686.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].text |
或是什麼不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].start |
15686.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].end |
15688.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].text |
通通都不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].start |
15688.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].end |
15690.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].text |
你覺得人民可以接受嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].start |
15690.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].end |
15696.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].text |
兩年判刑兩年以下的相對都是重罪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].start |
15696.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].end |
15698.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].text |
這樣子可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].start |
15698.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].end |
15700.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].text |
再譬如說來詐欺 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].start |
15700.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].end |
15702.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].text |
大家人人的過街喊打 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].start |
15702.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].end |
15704.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].text |
我們立法院修法一修再修又修 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].start |
15704.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].end |
15706.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].text |
都要加重刑責的詐欺罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].start |
15706.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].end |
15708.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].text |
來43條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].start |
15708.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].end |
15710.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].text |
林委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].start |
15710.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].end |
15712.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].text |
是不是可以請 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].start |
15712.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].end |
15714.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].text |
司法院這邊回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].start |
15714.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].end |
15716.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].text |
這個很具體的講一下抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].start |
15716.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].end |
15718.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].text |
好來你詐欺人家的債務 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].start |
15718.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].end |
15720.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].text |
100萬以則處3年以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].start |
15720.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].end |
15722.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].text |
10年以下有期徒刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].start |
15722.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].end |
15724.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].text |
對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].start |
15724.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].end |
15726.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].text |
立法者定定的刑度 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].start |
15726.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].end |
15728.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].text |
被害金額超過100萬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].start |
15728.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].end |
15730.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].text |
刑度是3年以上10年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].start |
15730.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].end |
15732.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].text |
法官可不可以判兩年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].start |
15735.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].end |
15737.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].text |
可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].start |
15737.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].end |
15739.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].text |
除非有檢清事由 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].start |
15739.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].end |
15741.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].text |
對嘛可以嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].start |
15741.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].end |
15743.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].text |
要符合法定檢清事由 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].start |
15743.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].end |
15745.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].text |
那如果他判了兩年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].start |
15745.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].end |
15747.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].text |
簡化判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].start |
15747.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].end |
15749.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].text |
需不需要把他為什麼檢清要寫出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].start |
15749.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].end |
15751.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].text |
需要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].start |
15751.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].end |
15753.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].text |
可以不用啊 當然要啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].start |
15753.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].end |
15755.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].text |
不需要 照你的修法版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].start |
15755.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].end |
15757.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].text |
立法務部的修法版本在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].start |
15759.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].end |
15761.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].text |
裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].start |
15761.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].end |
15763.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].text |
你今天端不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].start |
15763.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].end |
15765.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].text |
但你請吳宗憲委員提了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].start |
15765.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].end |
15767.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].text |
我們召委都看不下去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].start |
15767.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].end |
15769.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].text |
兩年以下可以簡化判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].start |
15770.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].end |
15772.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].text |
簡化判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].start |
15772.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].end |
15774.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].text |
他認定犯罪的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].start |
15774.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].end |
15776.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].text |
對於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].start |
15776.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].end |
15778.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].text |
有沒有就刑法5758 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].start |
15778.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].end |
15780.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].text |
或者是59條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].start |
15780.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].end |
15782.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].text |
前刊民訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].start |
15782.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].end |
15784.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].text |
然後以至於減半 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].start |
15784.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].end |
15786.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].text |
或者是加重減輕免除 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].start |
15786.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].end |
15788.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].text |
以至於緩刑的理由是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].start |
15788.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].end |
15790.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].text |
簡化判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].start |
15790.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].end |
15792.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].text |
通通都不用寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].start |
15792.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].end |
15794.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].text |
通通都不用寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].start |
15794.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].end |
15796.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].text |
沒有我們立法院大姐 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].start |
15796.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].end |
15798.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].text |
每天都在加重刑責 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].start |
15800.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].end |
15802.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].text |
哎 不好呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].start |
15802.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].end |
15804.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].start |
15804.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].end |
15806.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].text |
他如果立法進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].start |
15806.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].end |
15808.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].text |
他一定要寫清楚他的要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].start |
15808.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].end |
15810.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].text |
你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].start |
15810.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].end |
15812.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].text |
現行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].start |
15812.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].end |
15814.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].text |
拿出來的端出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].start |
15814.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].end |
15816.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].text |
司法院刑事訴訟法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].start |
15816.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].end |
15818.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].text |
修法版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].start |
15818.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].end |
15820.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].text |
310條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].start |
15820.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].end |
15822.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].text |
310 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].start |
15822.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].end |
15824.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].text |
多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].start |
15823.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].end |
15825.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].text |
310啊 發現我剛剛忘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].start |
15827.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].end |
15829.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].text |
現在司法院都還沒有送出 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].start |
15829.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].end |
15831.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].text |
有有有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].start |
15831.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].end |
15833.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].text |
他送不出來 但他有公告在網站上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].start |
15833.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].end |
15835.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].text |
你們的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].start |
15835.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].end |
15837.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].text |
就是通通都不用寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].start |
15837.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].end |
15839.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].text |
司法院如果用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].start |
15839.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].end |
15841.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].text |
這種簡化判決書的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].start |
15841.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].end |
15843.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].text |
然後不寫原因理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].start |
15843.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].end |
15845.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].text |
為什麼給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].start |
15845.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].end |
15847.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].text |
用刑法59條前刊民訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].start |
15847.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].end |
15849.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].text |
給他減半 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].start |
15849.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].end |
15851.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].text |
為什麼用5758條給他減輕其罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].start |
15851.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].end |
15853.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].text |
你通通都沒有寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].start |
15853.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].end |
15855.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].text |
判在兩年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].start |
15855.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].end |
15857.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].text |
這個社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].start |
15857.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].end |
15859.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].text |
可以接受嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].start |
15859.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].end |
15861.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].text |
我在舉例 刑法221條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].start |
15861.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].end |
15863.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].text |
的強制性交罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].start |
15863.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].end |
15865.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].text |
我們今天時間已經超過太多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].start |
15865.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].end |
15867.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].text |
不好意思 我想您的這個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].start |
15867.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].end |
15869.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].text |
大概就是司法院那裡都清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].start |
15869.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].end |
15871.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].text |
主席我真的要結束了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].start |
15871.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].end |
15873.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].text |
221條的強制性交罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].start |
15873.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].end |
15875.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].text |
法定刑也是三年以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].start |
15875.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].end |
15877.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].text |
一樣可以判兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].start |
15877.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].end |
15879.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].text |
以下強制性交罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].start |
15879.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].end |
15881.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].text |
然後沒有寫理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].start |
15881.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].end |
15883.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].text |
天啊 你們為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].start |
15883.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].end |
15885.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].text |
人民覺得法定刑就三年以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].start |
15885.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].end |
15887.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].text |
你怎麼可能判兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].start |
15887.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].end |
15889.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].text |
然後沒有寫理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].start |
15889.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].end |
15891.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].text |
然後他不知道 人民真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].start |
15891.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].end |
15893.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].text |
我覺得傷害人民的情感 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].start |
15893.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].end |
15895.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].text |
跟委員報告 醫事用司法條在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].start |
15895.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].end |
15897.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].text |
一定是要寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].start |
15897.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].end |
15899.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].text |
你們的版本就是不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].start |
15899.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].end |
15901.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].text |
我最後再講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].start |
15901.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].end |
15903.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].text |
這個修法會有什麼風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].start |
15903.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].end |
15905.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].text |
這個修法跟無中縣委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].start |
15905.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].end |
15907.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].text |
他就是請無中縣委員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].start |
15907.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].end |
15909.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].text |
無中縣委員有稍微加一個附帶條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].start |
15909.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].end |
15911.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].start |
15911.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].end |
15913.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].text |
這個修法會有高度的道德風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].start |
15913.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].end |
15915.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].text |
判決書簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].start |
15915.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].end |
15917.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].text |
然後寫成兩頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].start |
15917.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].end |
15919.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].text |
民事暗示被告認罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].start |
15919.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].end |
15921.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].text |
然後判兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].start |
15921.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].end |
15923.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].text |
再給緩刑 全部皆大歡行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].start |
15923.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].end |
15925.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].text |
然後社會大眾不明白為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].start |
15925.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].end |
15927.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].text |
重罪會變成兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].start |
15927.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].end |
15929.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].text |
為什麼重大犯罪被法院減刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].start |
15929.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].end |
15931.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].text |
為什麼法院認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].start |
15931.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].end |
15933.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].text |
59條情刊民訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].start |
15933.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].end |
15935.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].text |
可以引用的理由是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].start |
15935.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].end |
15937.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].text |
不知道 結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].start |
15937.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].end |
15939.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].text |
這樣判下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].start |
15939.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].end |
15941.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].text |
你們擴大了簡化判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].start |
15941.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].end |
15943.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].text |
都沒有寫理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].start |
15943.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].end |
15945.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].text |
受傷的是司法公信力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].start |
15945.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].end |
15947.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].text |
是社會大眾的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].start |
15947.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].end |
15949.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].text |
正當法律情感 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].start |
15949.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].end |
15951.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].text |
你們會導致 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].start |
15951.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].end |
15953.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].text |
人民在現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].start |
15953.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].end |
15955.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].text |
對你們司法已經不信任的上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].start |
15955.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].end |
15957.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].text |
在更雪上加霜 更不信任 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].start |
15957.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].end |
15959.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].text |
我相信在司法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].start |
15959.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].end |
15961.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].text |
檢察官是扮演重要的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].start |
15960.96 |
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15962.96 |
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好 我相信 |
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請那個林委員我上次今天的會議 |
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法官是整個司法審判的第三者 |
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請林委員 |
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不是檢察官說了算 |
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如果法官是檢察官的起訴書 |
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說了算 就不需要法院了 |
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我想 |
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林委員他所提的意見 |
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司法院應該都已經 |
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接去聽到了 |
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先前已經很多的委員 |
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針對這個案子 |
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已經有最下層的意見 |
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我們重視 |
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降低法官的工作量 |
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但是你不能損及人民權益 |
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不能損及司法的公信力 |
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不能傷害 |
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人民的正當法律情感 |
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勞役不均 |
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主席我跟您報告勞役不均的問題 |
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沒有解決 |
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勞役不均 |
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很多庭長 審判長 |
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他的工作分案量 |
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都交給其他法官 |
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他們的自傷法院 |
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自傷法院 行政法院 |
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跟一般法院 |
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行政上的分配不均 |
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所以這個 你要從 |
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解決 |
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你們要從總而管制去解決 |
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你們要引進 |
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16032.96 |
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副作風繼續解決 |
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而不是優先在這裡 |
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兩年 |
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兩年 |
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判刑兩年 |
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有 |
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這個是不行的啦 |
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這樣不行的啦 |
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都還被他 |
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交換還不道歉 |
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還硬挖 還被收罰 |
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才生更多的問題 |
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立委跟你們講 |
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我真的發現 |
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我們張偉跟高機智秘書長 |
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交情很好喔 |
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很好喔 |
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秘書長才會請吳宗憲委員 |
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提案喔 |
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秘書長才會請吳宗憲委員 |
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提案喔 |
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我這邊要請林委員 |
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我對你的交情 |
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基本上已經跟別的委員交情是不一樣了啦 |
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但你們兩個更好啊 |
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我沒有說度長 |
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我只是說維持一個會議的秩序 |
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現在後面都沒有人要質詢啦 |
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會議委員質詢時間是五分鐘 |
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已經超過了三倍的時間 |
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在今天開會的話 |
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可以分際第二輪發言啊 |
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我要是影響到大家開會的時間 |
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好就這樣結束 |
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這不是 |
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關到未來人民的問題嗎 |
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犧牲人民權益的問題不用討論 |
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