iVOD / 17673

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IVOD_ID 17673
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17673
日期 2026-08-19
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-26-23
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第23次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 23
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 26
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 社會福利及衛生環境委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第23次全體委員會議
影片種類 Full
開始時間 2026-08-19T08:36:58+08:00
結束時間 2026-08-19T17:21:00+08:00
影片長度 08:44:02
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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會議時間 2026-08-19T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第23次全體委員會議(事由:一、繼續審查行政院函請審議「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 二、繼續審查委員廖偉翔等18人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十四條及第二十五條條文修正草案」案。 三、繼續審查委員蘇清泉等23人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十二條條文修正草案」案。 四、繼續審查委員蘇清泉等20人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第四條條文修正草案」案。 ......(完整內容,詳見議事日程) 三十六、繼續審查委員黃秀芳等21人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 三十七、繼續審查委員劉建國等19人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 三十八、審查委員王鴻薇等19人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 三十九、審查委員王正旭等17人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 四十、審查委員葉元之等20人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 四十一、審查委員邱鎮軍等25人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 四十二、審查委員王義川等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 四十三、審查委員賴士葆等17人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 四十四、審查委員魯明哲等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第四十七條、第四十八條及第四十八條之一條文修正草案」案。 四十五、審查台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 四十六、審查委員郭昱晴等18人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 四十七、審查委員吳思瑤等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 四十八、審查委員傅崐萁等18人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 四十九、審查委員陳培瑜等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 五十、審查委員林倩綺等21人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 五十一、審查委員吳沛憶等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 五十二、審查委員洪孟楷等17人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 五十三、審查委員林思銘等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 五十四、審查委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 五十五、審查委員鍾佳濱等19人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 五十六、審查委員張雅琳等17人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 五十七、審查委員吳宗憲等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 五十八、審查委員廖偉翔等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。 【逐條討論,不詢答】 【第三十八至五十一案,如經復議則不予審查;第五十二至五十八案,如未經院會交付本會審查或未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書,則不予審查】)
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 時間115年8月5日
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 93分之10,73分地點群席樓801會議室
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 出席委員林月芹等15人
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 列席委員林黛樺等12人
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 列席官員、上午衛生福利部部長石重良
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 主席盧昭吉委員現議
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 報告事項,宣讀上次會議議事錄決定確定
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 邀請衛生福利部部長行政院食品安全辦公室
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 教育部、國防部、經濟部、台灣糖業股份有限公司及行政院消費者保護處就
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 從致癌由事件發展迄今中央一面蓋牌
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 吃案當門審有關行政就則知
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 從者完整調查報告
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 本次會議專題報告由衛生福利部部長石重良報告後
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 4人所提書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報決定報告機
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transcript.whisperx[24].text 詢答完畢
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transcript.whisperx[44].text 在這裡求你
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transcript.whisperx[88].text 會先請部長就提案進行
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transcript.whisperx[94].text 現在先請提案委員提案說明,林宥芹召委
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transcript.whisperx[95].text 這次修法的目的,就是針對重大食安事件暴露出來的漏洞
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transcript.whisperx[96].text 把責任說清楚,然後把通報做即時,把風險擋在源頭
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transcript.whisperx[98].text 中央可以成立指揮中心,統一協調各部會跟地方政府
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transcript.whisperx[99].text 地方政府也必須主動稽查、抽驗,不能等中央政府來做通知
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transcript.whisperx[100].text 同時要求一定規模的食品業者,提出食安的監測計畫並地區檢驗
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transcript.whisperx[103].text 再來檢疫機構不能只有書面審查資料
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transcript.whisperx[104].text 那也可以進入工廠查核抽樣,主管機關也可以進行無預警的稽查
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transcript.whisperx[105].text 並建立全國一致性的預防性下架跟恢復上架的標準
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transcript.whisperx[106].text 因應網路販售的增加,這次也要求網路平台
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transcript.whisperx[107].text 限期移除違法食安的資訊,保存相關資料
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transcript.whisperx[108].text 販售輸入食品時,因揭露輸入的許可資訊
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transcript.whisperx[109].text 對於營運檢驗結果,延遲通報,不實通報或拒絕回收的業者
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transcript.whisperx[110].text 也會提高處罰
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transcript.whisperx[111].text 所以本身沒有違規,只要配合政府預防性下架的業者
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transcript.whisperx[112].text 即可由我們的食安基金補助必要費用
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transcript.whisperx[113].text 簡單來說就是,修法就是要把食安管理從出事後的處理
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transcript.whisperx[114].text 改成源頭的監測,發現就通報,風險就先處理
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transcript.whisperx[115].text 持續
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transcript.whisperx[116].text 我們的防堵不良業者來迫害食安,食品安全的可能性,謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[117].text 接著,請衛生局部食物長就討論事項進行
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transcript.whisperx[118].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[119].text 謝謝主席,讓我有提案說明的機會
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transcript.whisperx[120].text 主席,各位好,為建構更完善,而且透明
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transcript.whisperx[121].text 且符合人權保障的食品安全衛生管理體系
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transcript.whisperx[122].text 本次我的食安法修法建議,將聚焦在四個重點
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transcript.whisperx[123].text 第一,要強化公衛的參與,完備食安風險的評估體系
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transcript.whisperx[124].text 食品安全與環境健康風險,流行病學息息相關
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transcript.whisperx[125].text 所以我提案主張,食品風險的評估之意會與相關之意體系
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transcript.whisperx[126].text 應該要納入公共衛生領域專家
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transcript.whisperx[127].text 並將公共衛生專業人員,增列為特定規模食品業者應聘用的專技人員之一
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transcript.whisperx[128].text 從源頭提升業者的風險預防與自主衛生管理的能力
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transcript.whisperx[129].text 第二,終結標示陷阱,保障消費者實質的知情權
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transcript.whisperx[130].text 針對進口農產品經微型加工後,即可合法標示產地台灣的現行亂象
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transcript.whisperx[132].text 應標示前三名主要原料之原產地,以維護消費者的知情權
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transcript.whisperx[133].text 並保障本土農漁牧業者的公平競爭環境
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transcript.whisperx[134].text 三,要建置全國單一查詢系統,食安違規資訊零死角
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transcript.whisperx[135].text 現行的違法食品資訊,散落在各地的地方政府的網站
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transcript.whisperx[136].text 而且格式都不一致
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transcript.whisperx[137].text 我提案授權中央主管機關,建置單一便利的全國違反食安查詢系統
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transcript.whisperx[138].text 落實資訊透明與全民的監督
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transcript.whisperx[139].text 第四,兼顧食安防堵與人權保障,分級調取個人資料
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transcript.whisperx[140].text 為了要防堵網路違法食安資訊擴散
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transcript.whisperx[141].text 附與網際網路業者管理與移除的業務
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transcript.whisperx[142].text 同時要符合比例原則及保障隱私
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transcript.whisperx[143].text 參照日前衛環委員會審查《淹害防治法》時取得的共識
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transcript.whisperx[144].text 就是要明定行政機關調取用戶註冊資料的法定程序
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transcript.whisperx[145].text 來兼顧食安與人權
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transcript.whisperx[146].text 以上
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transcript.whisperx[147].text 這是前秋會委員會
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transcript.whisperx[148].text 主席還有各位委員還有各位政府部門的官員大家好
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transcript.whisperx[150].text 中研油脂的毒油事件來提出一些修法的方向
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transcript.whisperx[151].text 那當然過去兩個月我們看到整個政府部門對於中研油脂的毒油事件在處理過程
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transcript.whisperx[152].text 我們看透了一個荒腔走板的劇情
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transcript.whisperx[157].text 還有即時通報的系統
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transcript.whisperx[158].text 那我們也看到說過去對於這些毒油流向有擠壓膏式的公布
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transcript.whisperx[168].text 甚至檢驗結果造假的問題
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transcript.whisperx[176].text 然後也加強未通報的一個責任
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transcript.whisperx[181].text 然後確保我們食品的安全
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transcript.whisperx[183].text 希望能夠讓更多人能夠通報不安有安全衛生疑慮的食品
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transcript.whisperx[187].text 然後製程管理最後品質管理來做全方面的管控
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transcript.whisperx[188].text 那也希望能夠提升罰則來讓食品業者產生足夠的嚇阻力
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transcript.whisperx[192].text 以上說明謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[193].text 請衛生部部食部長就討論事項進行說明
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transcript.whisperx[195].text 食品安全衛生管理法部分條文
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transcript.whisperx[196].text 糾正草案共有58案
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transcript.whisperx[197].text 那麼以下我先簡單的說明
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transcript.whisperx[198].text 這個這一次的行政院版本
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transcript.whisperx[201].text 那麼共有17個條文五大重點
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transcript.whisperx[202].text 包含第一對業者要求加強自主的檢驗
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transcript.whisperx[205].text 要在24小時內通報
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transcript.whisperx[210].text 賦予的能夠進行現場抽樣
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transcript.whisperx[211].text 還有業者也有提供相關資料的義務
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transcript.whisperx[214].text 並且提高對業者的罰則上限
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transcript.whisperx[215].text 違規從重來裁罰
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transcript.whisperx[218].text 另外在食安基金的部分則擴大
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transcript.whisperx[219].text 可以補助依規定下架
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transcript.whisperx[224].text 至於針對今天有委員的這個提案
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transcript.whisperx[225].text 修正版本那麼有幾個重點
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transcript.whisperx[226].text 那麼也歸納如下
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transcript.whisperx[239].text 那麼則為委員提出
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transcript.whisperx[241].text 建立跨部會的食安通報平台
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transcript.whisperx[246].text 那麼明確下架程序
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transcript.whisperx[247].text 還有建立食安檢驗資訊系統等等這些
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transcript.whisperx[251].text 嬰幼兒食品等等的標示及廣告宣稱
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transcript.whisperx[261].text 有關委員的提案
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transcript.whisperx[262].text 那麼包含業者的管理
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transcript.whisperx[267].text 那麼我們本部競表認同
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transcript.whisperx[272].text 另外有一些部分的事項
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transcript.whisperx[276].text 那麼也會來跟委員充分的說明
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transcript.whisperx[277].text 那麼對逐條條文的本部的意見
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transcript.whisperx[278].text 那麼希望儘速的凝聚修法共識
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transcript.whisperx[279].text 完成這個食安法的修法
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transcript.whisperx[282].text 以上
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transcript.whisperx[284].text 為了修正動議請一併宣讀
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transcript.whisperx[285].text 食品衛生管理法
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transcript.whisperx[286].text 如先等十六人提案
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transcript.whisperx[292].text 第43條
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transcript.whisperx[294].text 第四項檢舉人應受加劣保護
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transcript.whisperx[305].text 應負舉證責任
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transcript.whisperx[316].text 第一款規定者
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transcript.whisperx[349].text 第五項首拒
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transcript.whisperx[414].text 這辦法由中央主管機關定制
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transcript.whisperx[423].text 臺灣民眾黨黨團提案
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transcript.whisperx[424].text 第二條之一
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transcript.whisperx[432].text 一 跨部會食品安全風險評估
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transcript.whisperx[509].text 臺灣民眾黨黨團體驗第21條
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transcript.whisperx[888].text 經中止委託或廢止認證者一年內不得再接受委託或重新申請認證
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transcript.whisperx[891].text 第一項第二行修正為新台幣三萬元以上五千萬元以下發還
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transcript.whisperx[893].text 行政院提案第48條之二
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transcript.whisperx[902].text 台灣民眾黨黨團提案第48條之二
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transcript.whisperx[906].text 經廢止登錄者一年內不得再申請重新登錄
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transcript.whisperx[908].text 二違反第七條第一項規定為訂定食品安全監測計畫
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transcript.whisperx[920].text 十三違反第二十二條第一項為明顯標示
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transcript.whisperx[923].text 十五對一本法規定應提供之資料
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transcript.whisperx[941].text 為揭露輸入許可證明文件
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transcript.whisperx[955].text 文賴世保等17人提案第50條
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transcript.whisperx[956].text 僱主不得因勞工離職勞工或其他受其指揮監督提供勞務之人
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transcript.whisperx[992].text 文復坤起等18人提案第50條之一
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transcript.whisperx[993].text 刪除第三項其餘委員王玉敏等25人提案通
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transcript.whisperx[994].text 行政院提案第51條
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transcript.whisperx[995].text 修正第一款第一行
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transcript.whisperx[1122].text 其與現行法同
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transcript.whisperx[1123].text 文奈世保等16人提案第56條之一
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transcript.whisperx[1124].text 增列第二項第六款
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transcript.whisperx[1125].text 補助地方主管機關充實基層食品安全
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transcript.whisperx[1127].text 援助民族地區偏遠地區縣市政府
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transcript.whisperx[1128].text 建置產地溯源查核與高階產地鑑定技術之
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transcript.whisperx[1129].text 檢驗量能
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transcript.whisperx[1132].text 第三項第五行
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transcript.whisperx[1134].text 應對援助民族地區及偏遠地區之申請案件
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transcript.whisperx[1135].text 訂定保障比例或放寬補助額度上限
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transcript.whisperx[1144].text 等17人提案第56條之一
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transcript.whisperx[1151].text 政列第二項第六款每年提撥基金收入之50%
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transcript.whisperx[1152].text 供全民健康保險之安全準備
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transcript.whisperx[1153].text 其餘現行法同
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transcript.whisperx[1164].text 第一項基金之來源如下
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transcript.whisperx[1169].text 四、基金資息收入五、捐贈收入六
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transcript.whisperx[1172].text 用途如下
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transcript.whisperx[1173].text 二、補助提起訴訟之律師報酬及訴訟相關費用
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transcript.whisperx[1183].text 中央主管機關應設置基金運用管理監督小組
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transcript.whisperx[1184].text 由學者專家食品業者團體
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transcript.whisperx[1185].text 社會公證人士組成監督補助業務
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transcript.whisperx[1186].text 第四項基金之補助對象申請資格審查程序
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transcript.whisperx[1187].text 補助基準、補助之費指
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transcript.whisperx[1188].text 請向基金運用管理監督小組組成
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transcript.whisperx[1189].text 運作及其他應遵行事項之辦法
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transcript.whisperx[1190].text 由中央主管機關定之
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transcript.whisperx[1191].text 行政院提案第60條
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transcript.whisperx[1192].text 本法自公佈日施行
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transcript.whisperx[1193].text 本法中華民國102年6月19日修正公佈之
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transcript.whisperx[1195].text 收取規定
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transcript.whisperx[1198].text 收取規定
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transcript.whisperx[1203].text 第22條第1項第5款應標示可追數字來源或生產系統規定
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transcript.whisperx[1204].text 自公佈後6個月施行
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transcript.whisperx[1205].text 第7條第3項食品業者應設置實驗室規定第22條第4項第24條第1項食品添加物質原料應標示食項規定第24條第3項及第35條第4項自公佈後1年施行
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transcript.whisperx[1208].text 第48條第1款有關違依第7條第1項後段規定報經中央主管機關核定食品安全監測計劃之處罰規定
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transcript.whisperx[1209].text 第48條至2第48條至3至施行日期遊行在院定制
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transcript.whisperx[1212].text 第5項第7行修正第7條第1項刪除後段2字
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transcript.whisperx[1213].text 期與行政院提案同
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transcript.whisperx[1224].text 文章雅靈等17人提案第60條
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transcript.whisperx[1225].text 君宇委員吳立華等16人提案同
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transcript.whisperx[1237].text 第5項第3行增列第22條
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transcript.whisperx[1247].text 公佈日施行其餘現行法同
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transcript.whisperx[1249].text 第1案第7條修正第1項第4行
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transcript.whisperx[1251].text 等零售通路業者及與連鎖餐飲業者
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transcript.whisperx[1252].text 其自主管理因包含建立收銀終端
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transcript.whisperx[1258].text 第22條
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transcript.whisperx[1262].text 第1行
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transcript.whisperx[1263].text 第8款第9款及第10條標示之
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transcript.whisperx[1268].text 第60條
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transcript.whisperx[1276].text 黃毓民 林月 請秋會入城精灰
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transcript.whisperx[1277].text 黃振旭 黃秀芳 林黛樺
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transcript.whisperx[1279].text 第22條
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transcript.whisperx[1293].text 其原產地資訊不得免於提供
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transcript.whisperx[1324].text 分為1、2、3、4
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transcript.whisperx[1343].text 因為我坑
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transcript.whisperx[1363].text 就是你們最新提出來的條文
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transcript.whisperx[1366].text 那當然剛那個我們
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transcript.whisperx[1367].text 的條文也有提到說對於一些相關的會議都要公開
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transcript.whisperx[1368].text 那衛福部這邊感覺也都有接受
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transcript.whisperx[1369].text 那但是因為我們的1到5款
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transcript.whisperx[1370].text 感覺比你們的1到4款細節還多一點這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[1371].text 所以我們還是覺得我們的細節還是要維持
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transcript.whisperx[1372].text 以上說明謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[1373].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[1374].text 還有其他委員要發言嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1375].text 關於第二條之1
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transcript.whisperx[1376].text 如果沒有的話我們是不是就先保留
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transcript.whisperx[1377].text 是是
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transcript.whisperx[1378].text 先保留好
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transcript.whisperx[1379].text 那我們就第二條之1先保留
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transcript.whisperx[1380].text 再來是第二條之2
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transcript.whisperx[1381].text 再來我們進行第二條之2
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transcript.whisperx[1383].text 我們針對各個行政院的版本
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transcript.whisperx[1384].text 以及1到12項的委員提
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transcript.whisperx[1386].text 我們特別針對委員各方面的參彩的部分
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transcript.whisperx[1388].text 並得成立指揮中心及著修文字本的部分
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transcript.whisperx[1389].text 希望能夠以此修正通過
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transcript.whisperx[1390].text 我們可以看到
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transcript.whisperx[1392].text 因為是安全衛生
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transcript.whisperx[1393].text 我們把所有的文字做了一次的整合
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transcript.whisperx[1394].text 做一些一併的修正
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transcript.whisperx[1400].text 並得成立指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1401].text 這部分加入我們的文字
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transcript.whisperx[1402].text 以上說明
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transcript.whisperx[1404].text 請委員發言
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transcript.whisperx[1407].text 依據剛剛陳署長所報告
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transcript.whisperx[1409].text 等於是比照類似颱風
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transcript.whisperx[1410].text 等這些緊急狀況之下
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transcript.whisperx[1411].text 其實我們也是提到有修正動議
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transcript.whisperx[1412].text 就是跟這部分是一致的
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transcript.whisperx[1413].text 是希望將來出現任何食安的問題的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1416].text 或者是突發性食品安全衛生事件時
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transcript.whisperx[1417].text 應該要採行必要的措施
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transcript.whisperx[1418].text 並得成立指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1419].text 能夠讓除了中央機關
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transcript.whisperx[1420].text 採取這個成立指揮中心的作法的同時
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transcript.whisperx[1421].text 也可以讓我們的這些指轄縣市
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transcript.whisperx[1422].text 能夠根據這個事件的問題
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transcript.whisperx[1423].text 來成立採取必要的措施
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transcript.whisperx[1424].text 跟成立指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1425].text 所以會贊成類似這個文字的修正
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transcript.whisperx[1426].text 以上
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transcript.whisperx[1427].text 報告王委員
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transcript.whisperx[1428].text 因為修正動議還來不及印出來
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transcript.whisperx[1429].text 現在大家還沒有
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transcript.whisperx[1430].text 所以是否要等修正動議印出來
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transcript.whisperx[1431].text 還是主管機關可以先回
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transcript.whisperx[1432].text 我們請黃委員發言
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transcript.whisperx[1433].text 黃修法委員
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transcript.whisperx[1434].text 我問一下就是說第二條之二
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transcript.whisperx[1435].text 未來這個食安辦
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transcript.whisperx[1437].text 那它這個角色是不是有重疊
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transcript.whisperx[1438].text 我是不是可以先請那個衛福部這邊先說明一下
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transcript.whisperx[1439].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[1440].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[1442].text 這個我們回頭看這個二條之一
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transcript.whisperx[1443].text 第二條之一是食安辦
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transcript.whisperx[1444].text 就是要成立食安會報
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transcript.whisperx[1446].text 那麼這一次的這個民眾黨團體提出了
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transcript.whisperx[1448].text 那麼過去我們是在它的設置要點裡面寫
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transcript.whisperx[1449].text 我們現在讓它的這個任務
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transcript.whisperx[1450].text 把它明定在這個第二條之一的條文裡面
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transcript.whisperx[1451].text 所以可以看得到
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transcript.whisperx[1452].text 主要是食安辦和食安會報主要是在做
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transcript.whisperx[1454].text 那麼還有一些預警制度集合制度的建立
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transcript.whisperx[1462].text 所以這個是在應變的部分
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transcript.whisperx[1463].text 那前面的是在做平時的這個準備
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transcript.whisperx[1469].text 那麼才去成立這個指揮中心跟指定指揮官
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transcript.whisperx[1470].text 所以有這樣的一個分工
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transcript.whisperx[1471].text 那麼剛剛王政序委員有特別在提出的這個修正動議
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transcript.whisperx[1479].text 才會有地方層級的指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1482].text 那麼就會統一來協調調度以上的說明
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transcript.whisperx[1483].text 好請林委員發言
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transcript.whisperx[1484].text 好因為我們整個的版本大概都是聚焦在說
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transcript.whisperx[1485].text 重大或突發性及經評估認為有必要
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transcript.whisperx[1486].text 那這樣的字眼看起來好像是有彈性
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transcript.whisperx[1487].text 彈性也很大
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transcript.whisperx[1488].text 但這個也有可能會變成說啟動的時間會過完
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transcript.whisperx[1490].text 我們要不要補強啟動的門檻還有指揮的權限
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transcript.whisperx[1492].text 他是最上游那下游的流向龐大的這個事件
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transcript.whisperx[1493].text 他在這種狀況裡面他最需要的就是
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transcript.whisperx[1494].text 一開始就馬上馬上初期就馬上整合檢驗
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transcript.whisperx[1495].text 然後查清楚批號下游清測下架犯法案對外說明
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transcript.whisperx[1496].text 所以如果要等到行政院同意成立才指揮
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transcript.whisperx[1497].text 才同意指揮
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transcript.whisperx[1498].text 那這樣子可能會也是稍微慢了半拍
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transcript.whisperx[1499].text 那我在想說我們要不要明定啟動的判斷指標
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transcript.whisperx[1500].text 要先具體講一下然後再來概括性的講
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transcript.whisperx[1501].text 那具體的講我是建議說是不是我們在立法裡面
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transcript.whisperx[1502].text 法律條文要寫上第一涉及到跨縣市流通的
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transcript.whisperx[1503].text 第二涉及到高風險污染物或致癌物的
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transcript.whisperx[1504].text 第三原料供應多家下游業者的
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transcript.whisperx[1505].text 第四地方掌握資訊不一致者
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transcript.whisperx[1506].text 第五可能需要預防性下架的
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transcript.whisperx[1507].text 等重大或突發性或是其他精評估認為有必要
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transcript.whisperx[1508].text 這樣子講是不是才很明確說
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transcript.whisperx[1509].text 只要有跨縣市的中央就要馬上立即啟動了
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transcript.whisperx[1510].text 這個是啟動的門檻我們是不是在條文裡面
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transcript.whisperx[1511].text 我是個人是建議放進去
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transcript.whisperx[1512].text 那另外我們有個問題就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1513].text 指揮的權限我們希望在指揮中心成立以前
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transcript.whisperx[1514].text 有時候可能要跨單位去成立指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1515].text 但我們是不是在他成立以前會不會需要很迅速的
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transcript.whisperx[1516].text 就可以先行指定單一窗口
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transcript.whisperx[1517].text 然後立即去統合各地方政府的資訊
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transcript.whisperx[1518].text 建立公開流向表及每日更新的機制
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transcript.whisperx[1519].text 避免各地方自行公布然後中央在事後修正
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transcript.whisperx[1520].text 我個人想的所以是不是在啟動門檻上
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transcript.whisperx[1521].text 其實應該具體一點
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transcript.whisperx[1522].text 具體一點這個也怕掛萬肉一
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transcript.whisperx[1523].text 所以在最後要抽象
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transcript.whisperx[1524].text 再把你們現行的條文的抽象再放進去
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transcript.whisperx[1525].text 這樣子謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[1526].text 林書文委員說啟動門檻
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transcript.whisperx[1527].text 這請問博長你稍微回應
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transcript.whisperx[1528].text 謝謝委員的指教
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transcript.whisperx[1529].text 我們是建議說我們在這個二至二條的第三項
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transcript.whisperx[1530].text 我們有一個授權的這個辦法
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transcript.whisperx[1531].text 就是他的這個編制
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transcript.whisperx[1532].text 作業程序就包含他的啟動要件
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transcript.whisperx[1533].text 還有其他相關事項是辦法由中央主管機關來訂製
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transcript.whisperx[1534].text 那至於剛剛林委員所指教的
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transcript.whisperx[1535].text 我們是建議說也可以讓他呈現在我們的立法說明裡面
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transcript.whisperx[1536].text 未來我們在訂這個授權辦法的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1537].text 把它都含納到這樣
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transcript.whisperx[1538].text 好,最後二人
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transcript.whisperx[1539].text 原則上我們還是會支持行政院版本
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transcript.whisperx[1540].text 但是我有幾個問題想要了解
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transcript.whisperx[1541].text 就是說什麼情況必須成立指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1542].text 那什麼情況中央必須接管
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transcript.whisperx[1544].text 那地方以下達命令之後中央是否可以變更
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transcript.whisperx[1545].text 或者是第五就是中央接管之後的經費人力檢驗由誰負擔
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transcript.whisperx[1546].text 那另外當然我們這裡面也提到一個
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transcript.whisperx[1547].text 但還沒到啦
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transcript.whisperx[1548].text 就是說我們也希望說這個實驗室直接連線通報
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transcript.whisperx[1549].text 我覺得這個有異狀的時候直接通報出來
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transcript.whisperx[1550].text 讓我們可以即時掌握這個數據
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transcript.whisperx[1551].text 那當然這個數據異常的時候當然我們就可以馬上知道
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transcript.whisperx[1552].text 我覺得這個是很有必要做的
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transcript.whisperx[1553].text 由跟這個我們食品語言跟我們的檢驗室來做連線
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transcript.whisperx[1554].text 我希望這個部裡面再來接納一下這個意見
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transcript.whisperx[1555].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[1556].text 劉縣長你要講嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1557].text 來
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transcript.whisperx[1558].text 那你就可以
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transcript.whisperx[1559].text 我講一下
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transcript.whisperx[1560].text 那個二之二啦
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transcript.whisperx[1561].text 針對指揮中心這個方向基本上我完全是支持
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transcript.whisperx[1562].text 但是我比較擔心是這個中心
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transcript.whisperx[1563].text 剛剛是有聽部長講的會在辦法裡面去明定
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transcript.whisperx[1564].text 但是我還是覺得這個
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transcript.whisperx[1565].text 因為原版寫的條文是重大禍突發事件才成立
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transcript.whisperx[1566].text 那我的條文是不太一樣
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transcript.whisperx[1567].text 我是在第一項的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1568].text 我是寫因應國內外禍突發性食品安全的事件
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transcript.whisperx[1569].text 那我在第二項的時候是在地方政府
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transcript.whisperx[1570].text 地方政府啦
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transcript.whisperx[1571].text 我請部長
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transcript.whisperx[1572].text ODA啦
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transcript.whisperx[1573].text 部長看一下
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transcript.whisperx[1574].text 因為我覺得這個
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transcript.whisperx[1575].text 剛剛是有講說在透過辦法去把這個規範明定更清楚一點
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transcript.whisperx[1576].text 不過既然要修法可能又要直接在模法上的條文文字要更精準
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transcript.whisperx[1577].text 因為所謂的重大
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transcript.whisperx[1578].text 足夠
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transcript.whisperx[1579].text 這個沒有人說得清楚
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transcript.whisperx[1580].text 重大
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transcript.whisperx[1581].text 這個應該是我們一般的口護文啦
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transcript.whisperx[1582].text 把它放在法條裡面
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transcript.whisperx[1583].text 我覺得重大的認定
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transcript.whisperx[1584].text 這可能要再思考一下
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transcript.whisperx[1585].text 那你實際上會變成說
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transcript.whisperx[1586].text 要等到事情鬧大那算不算重大
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transcript.whisperx[1587].text 還是上新聞
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transcript.whisperx[1588].text 算不算重大
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transcript.whisperx[1589].text 還是民眾恐慌的時候才開始討論要不要去做成立
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transcript.whisperx[1590].text 這個有點恍不忌己
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transcript.whisperx[1591].text 所以我想我這邊有兩項可以跟各位來做一個討論
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transcript.whisperx[1592].text 第一個
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transcript.whisperx[1593].text 請分級開勝
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transcript.whisperx[1594].text 就像我之前有提這個修正動議
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transcript.whisperx[1595].text 地方政府遇到的事情應該就要來馬上成立指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1596].text 讓規模沒有那麼大的事件可以馬上做最快速的因應及評估才是
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transcript.whisperx[1597].text 那第二個
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transcript.whisperx[1598].text 指揮中心一旦啟動
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transcript.whisperx[1599].text 所有的應變就是要最快速
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transcript.whisperx[1601].text 中央這邊也要有所馬上來做相關的反應跟對應
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transcript.whisperx[1602].text 隨時進入備戰的狀態
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transcript.whisperx[1603].text 嚴加督導
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transcript.whisperx[1604].text 這個事件一旦擴大
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transcript.whisperx[1605].text 波及到其他縣市的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1606].text 當然就要馬上進入到調度
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transcript.whisperx[1607].text 所以這兩件事情
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transcript.whisperx[1608].text 我想也不用大改法條
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transcript.whisperx[1609].text 寫進授權辦法就做得到
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transcript.whisperx[1610].text 但是我還是希望在這次修法裡面
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transcript.whisperx[1611].text 可以把這件事情可能要更明確一點
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transcript.whisperx[1612].text 文字上看怎麼再修正一下
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transcript.whisperx[1613].text 好 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[1614].text 好 我先打斷大家一下
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transcript.whisperx[1615].text 我們加拿大的原住民來訪的委員
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transcript.whisperx[1616].text Welcome from Canada
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transcript.whisperx[1617].text 耶
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transcript.whisperx[1618].text Mr.Hawking
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transcript.whisperx[1619].text 拍拍手
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transcript.whisperx[1620].text Mr.Samsung
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transcript.whisperx[1621].text Welcome
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transcript.whisperx[1622].text Mr.Ettrick
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transcript.whisperx[1623].text 哈哈哈
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transcript.whisperx[1624].text 哈哈
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transcript.whisperx[1625].text 我們也歡迎他們來這邊參訪
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transcript.whisperx[1626].text 盧謝毅
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transcript.whisperx[1627].text 盧謝 拿著吧 拿著吧 拿著吧
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transcript.whisperx[1628].text 好 我們交給盧謝毅來接待法
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transcript.whisperx[1629].text 那繼續我們請李秀
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transcript.whisperx[1630].text 沒有 王毅先 王毅他剛升起來
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transcript.whisperx[1631].text 王毅先
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transcript.whisperx[1632].text 好 謝謝焦委
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transcript.whisperx[1633].text 有關於這個二至二的這個增訂
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transcript.whisperx[1634].text 這個指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1635].text 在討論這一題之前
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transcript.whisperx[1636].text 我想先請問衛福部回答一個問題
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transcript.whisperx[1637].text 就是說事實上過去
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transcript.whisperx[1638].text 我們已經發生過很多次的重大食安事件
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transcript.whisperx[1639].text 那每一次重大食安事件
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transcript.whisperx[1640].text 一定是跨縣市的
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transcript.whisperx[1641].text 幾乎沒有是在單一縣市發生的
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transcript.whisperx[1642].text 因為我們的食品是流通的
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transcript.whisperx[1643].text 所以坦白講
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transcript.whisperx[1644].text 在二零一四年的食安法修正的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1645].text 當時其實一個很重要的精神就是
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transcript.whisperx[1646].text 這個食安一條邊
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transcript.whisperx[1647].text 特別是中央
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transcript.whisperx[1648].text 我們其實還有行政院層級的食安匯報
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transcript.whisperx[1649].text 必要的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1650].text 他也可以針對臨時的狀況
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transcript.whisperx[1651].text 他其實就去開會
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transcript.whisperx[1652].text 所以機制是真的沒有嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1653].text 這個是我最大的疑問喔
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transcript.whisperx[1654].text 因為事實上過去
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transcript.whisperx[1655].text 從二零一四年的修法到現在
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transcript.whisperx[1656].text 已經發生過很多重大的食安事件了
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transcript.whisperx[1657].text 每一次其實都可以指揮
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transcript.whisperx[1658].text 更何況我們的行政院還有食安辦
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transcript.whisperx[1659].text 所以那整個的力量跟體系
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transcript.whisperx[1660].text 跟運作方式SOP
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transcript.whisperx[1661].text 我不覺得這個過去
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transcript.whisperx[1662].text 其實有發生太大的問題
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transcript.whisperx[1663].text 那這次坦白講
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transcript.whisperx[1664].text 這次的問題是
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transcript.whisperx[1665].text 已經設入一些政治的攻防了
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transcript.whisperx[1666].text 就是說中央說一定是地方
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transcript.whisperx[1667].text 然後就變成是沒有一條邊的處理
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transcript.whisperx[1668].text 事實上過去重大食安事件
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transcript.whisperx[1669].text 大家回去看
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transcript.whisperx[1670].text 那個指揮體系怎麼運作的
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transcript.whisperx[1671].text 地方絕對是
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transcript.whisperx[1672].text 只要數說一就是一啊
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transcript.whisperx[1673].text 你發布命令
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transcript.whisperx[1674].text 你要做什麼
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transcript.whisperx[1675].text 你說下架就下架
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transcript.whisperx[1676].text 專家會議也都是你們開的
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transcript.whisperx[1677].text 我不曉得那個指揮體系
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transcript.whisperx[1678].text 到底有出現什麼樣的問題
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transcript.whisperx[1679].text 其實根本過去是可以運作的
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transcript.whisperx[1680].text 那因為這次的事件
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transcript.whisperx[1681].text 你們說要有一個指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1682].text 比照這個疫情指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1683].text 那感覺是有一些事情
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transcript.whisperx[1684].text 沒有透過這個中心是辦不到的
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transcript.whisperx[1685].text 我其實很好奇是
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transcript.whisperx[1686].text 到底是什麼事情
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transcript.whisperx[1687].text 過去重大食安事件都可以做得到
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transcript.whisperx[1688].text 但這次事件
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transcript.whisperx[1689].text 這個重大食用油爆發之後呢
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transcript.whisperx[1690].text 你們突然覺得有做不到的事情
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transcript.whisperx[1691].text 一定要寫入二之二的法條
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transcript.whisperx[1692].text 有一個指揮中心才做得到
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transcript.whisperx[1693].text 我想知道現在還缺的那個是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[1694].text 因為過去的案例告訴我們說
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transcript.whisperx[1695].text 重大食安事件
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transcript.whisperx[1696].text 其實大家都是聽中央的
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transcript.whisperx[1697].text 中央可以跨縣市的指揮
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transcript.whisperx[1698].text 事實上是沒有問題的
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transcript.whisperx[1699].text 所以我比較好奇的是
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transcript.whisperx[1700].text 就是這一次要再寫進去
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transcript.whisperx[1701].text 我也沒有意見
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transcript.whisperx[1702].text 但就我的認知
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transcript.whisperx[1703].text 2014年我參與的食安法的修法
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transcript.whisperx[1704].text 事實上執行面是沒有問題的
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transcript.whisperx[1705].text 我們賦予中央非常大的權限
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transcript.whisperx[1706].text 中央想要做什麼其實都可以
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transcript.whisperx[1707].text 我沒有成立這個指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1708].text 我覺得並不妨礙這個整個中央指揮系統
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transcript.whisperx[1709].text 實質上去運作跟地方政府的溝通
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transcript.whisperx[1710].text 我想這個都是沒有問題的
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transcript.whisperx[1711].text 所以我比較好奇
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transcript.whisperx[1712].text 待會或許部長可以補充說明
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transcript.whisperx[1713].text 你們認為經過這次事件之後
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transcript.whisperx[1714].text 還有所不足的到底是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[1715].text 所以才需要再增加二之二
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transcript.whisperx[1716].text 寫了一個指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1717].text 這個是我的問題謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[1718].text 好接下來請六位小委員
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transcript.whisperx[1719].text 好我也覺得很奇怪
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transcript.whisperx[1720].text 這個食品業很龐大複雜
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transcript.whisperx[1721].text 本來當然就是以中央為主
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transcript.whisperx[1722].text 好那事實上這一條在這個
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transcript.whisperx[1723].text 在這個立法上面其實剛剛也有請
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transcript.whisperx[1724].text 那個其他委員也有提到
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transcript.whisperx[1725].text 這個兩者的文字裡面有這個重大或突發
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transcript.whisperx[1726].text 那兩個構成的要件
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transcript.whisperx[1727].text 皆是不確定的法律概念
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transcript.whisperx[1728].text 那用法條用語為或
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transcript.whisperx[1729].text 故只設範圍過於廣泛
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transcript.whisperx[1730].text 好那沒有可操作性的標準
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transcript.whisperx[1731].text 然後作為成立指揮中心的評判依據
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transcript.whisperx[1732].text 好那雖然前一項前一段有經評估
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transcript.whisperx[1733].text 認為有統籌各項資源和設備及整合相關機關機構之必要的用語
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transcript.whisperx[1734].text 可是還是很模糊
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transcript.whisperx[1735].text 那再來對比現行的第四條第
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transcript.whisperx[1736].text 這個四條第五項
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transcript.whisperx[1737].text 其實第四條第五項就已經有中央主管機關
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transcript.whisperx[1738].text 對於重大或突發性食品衛生安全事件
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transcript.whisperx[1739].text 必要時得以預警原則
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transcript.whisperx[1740].text 風險評估或流行病學調查結果
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transcript.whisperx[1741].text 公告對特定產品或特定地區之產品採取以下管理措施
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transcript.whisperx[1742].text 有這個什麼限制或停止
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transcript.whisperx[1743].text 輸入查驗製造及加工的方式和條件
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transcript.whisperx[1744].text 那第二個是下架封存
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transcript.whisperx[1745].text 限期回收限期改制末路銷毀
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transcript.whisperx[1746].text 就是感覺在這裡二之二
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transcript.whisperx[1747].text 這一次要特別這樣基本上就看起來就是一個很疊床架物的狀況
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transcript.whisperx[1748].text 那當你們一開始發生這件事情
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transcript.whisperx[1749].text 覺得很重要的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1750].text 食安辦不就可以扮演所謂的跨部會的這個權責
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transcript.whisperx[1751].text 而且本來賦予你的權責
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transcript.whisperx[1752].text 你要成立所謂的指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1753].text 你覺得這件事情很嚴重
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transcript.whisperx[1754].text 你也是可以做啊
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transcript.whisperx[1755].text 這個我是不太知道為什麼這條一定要
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transcript.whisperx[1756].text 這個時候這樣寫然後又很廣泛
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transcript.whisperx[1757].text 好像
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transcript.whisperx[1758].text 不是很明確那四條之五也有類似的這個條文在說
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transcript.whisperx[1759].text 但是他在四條之五的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1760].text 他還有現行法還有什麼必要時的
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transcript.whisperx[1761].text 依預警原則風險評估
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transcript.whisperx[1762].text 或這個流病調查結果的具體指標
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transcript.whisperx[1763].text 所以這兩個看起來這二條之二就很
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transcript.whisperx[1764].text 感覺就是一個疊床架物的這個出現這樣
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transcript.whisperx[1765].text 好再請聯絡群島委員
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transcript.whisperx[1766].text 好我需要確認一件事情
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transcript.whisperx[1767].text 按照這次事件來看的話確實
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transcript.whisperx[1768].text 發生中央跟地方不同調的問題
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transcript.whisperx[1769].text 所以如果中央跟地方的指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1770].text 到底誰要聽誰的
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transcript.whisperx[1771].text 如果地方的決議中央可不可以推翻
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transcript.whisperx[1772].text 而且這個是不是都要做確認
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transcript.whisperx[1773].text 不然現在中央後來又有地方現在也要去成立
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transcript.whisperx[1774].text 那會不會最後就地方做地方的中央
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transcript.whisperx[1775].text 就算成立的話地方不管那也沒有用
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transcript.whisperx[1776].text 所以等於是不是可以
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transcript.whisperx[1777].text 請我們的衛福部
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transcript.whisperx[1778].text 如果你認為這個後面在慈霞縣市
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transcript.whisperx[1779].text 要去成立指揮中心的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1780].text 那你們的考量會是什麼以上
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transcript.whisperx[1781].text 請聯絡群島委員
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transcript.whisperx[1782].text 對謝謝然後我再補充一下
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transcript.whisperx[1783].text 因為其實剛剛講這個慈安
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transcript.whisperx[1784].text 其實一直以來都是一條邊嘛
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transcript.whisperx[1785].text 那其實基本上中央地方的分工呢
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transcript.whisperx[1786].text 其實中央第一個它有法源
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transcript.whisperx[1787].text 也有這個相關的人頭管理
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transcript.whisperx[1788].text 然後同時也有行政裁罰手段跟權限
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transcript.whisperx[1789].text 那其實基本上目前為止地方都是主要協助
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transcript.whisperx[1790].text 後市場調查跟處罰
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transcript.whisperx[1791].text 那其實這個中央地方的分工
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transcript.whisperx[1792].text 其實目前依照現在的整個法的
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transcript.whisperx[1793].text 這樣子的分類是這樣
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transcript.whisperx[1794].text 那的確如果
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transcript.whisperx[1795].text 中央成立一個地方成立一個
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transcript.whisperx[1796].text 那到底權責到底怎麼分
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transcript.whisperx[1797].text 所以我覺得這個部分真的是
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transcript.whisperx[1798].text 要請衛福部好好思考一下
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transcript.whisperx[1799].text 好好回答一下謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[1800].text 請林社工委員
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transcript.whisperx[1801].text 我覺得月傾委員還有廖委員講的
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transcript.whisperx[1802].text 都有道理但是呢
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transcript.whisperx[1803].text 我在假設一種狀況
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transcript.whisperx[1804].text 因為我是看到王委員的提案
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transcript.whisperx[1805].text 我突然想到一個
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transcript.whisperx[1806].text 譬如說地方其實沒有跨縣市的問題
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transcript.whisperx[1807].text 突發一個重大的
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transcript.whisperx[1808].text 或者是突發性主要可能是有區域性的
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transcript.whisperx[1809].text 譬如說保齡茶室事件的翻版
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transcript.whisperx[1810].text 它大多數當然也有可能會跨縣市
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transcript.whisperx[1811].text 但是大多數在這種狀況裡面
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transcript.whisperx[1812].text 都會是比較社區型的
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transcript.whisperx[1813].text 那在這種狀況
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transcript.whisperx[1814].text 讓地方政府可以有採取
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transcript.whisperx[1815].text 突發或重大的這個必要的措施
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transcript.whisperx[1816].text 然後去成立指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1817].text 去調度指揮授權給他們
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transcript.whisperx[1818].text 我想也不是壞事
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transcript.whisperx[1819].text 但是的確會存在
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transcript.whisperx[1820].text 廖委員跟月傾委員講的就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1821].text 那如果是跨縣市的
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transcript.whisperx[1822].text 我們這個地方還要啟動嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1823].text 那中央如果啟動了
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transcript.whisperx[1824].text 地方政府跟他怎麼進
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transcript.whisperx[1825].text 不要講建核關係
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transcript.whisperx[1826].text 就是說兩個人的這個業務的從屬上
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transcript.whisperx[1827].text 他們合作上可能真的是必須要釐清
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transcript.whisperx[1828].text 但是就是說就地方授權
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transcript.whisperx[1829].text 我們在法律在這裡明文規定
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transcript.whisperx[1830].text 讓他們得
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transcript.whisperx[1831].text 可以有成立指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1832].text 去對於重大的或突發性的食品安全事件
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transcript.whisperx[1833].text 採取必要的措施
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transcript.whisperx[1834].text 事實上
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transcript.whisperx[1835].text 我想這樣的彈性也不一定
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transcript.whisperx[1836].text 不需要了
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transcript.whisperx[1837].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[1838].text 現在請蘇清泉委員
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transcript.whisperx[1839].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[1840].text 我建議這一條
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transcript.whisperx[1841].text 要嘛就保留啦
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transcript.whisperx[1842].text 那再來就是
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transcript.whisperx[1843].text 地方上一定要成立
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transcript.whisperx[1844].text 因成立或得成立
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transcript.whisperx[1845].text 有必要嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1846].text 因為我們這個食安的問題都是跨縣市
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transcript.whisperx[1847].text 中年出事
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transcript.whisperx[1848].text 整個台灣都死了
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transcript.whisperx[1849].text 還在分什麼屏東關高雄市
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transcript.whisperx[1850].text 這個根本就沒有必要成立
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transcript.whisperx[1851].text 如果要成立的話
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transcript.whisperx[1852].text 我也同意林淑芬剛剛講的
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transcript.whisperx[1853].text 她說要有一個門檻
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transcript.whisperx[1854].text 門檻看要幹嘛
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transcript.whisperx[1855].text 123
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transcript.whisperx[1856].text Criticalia定而死
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transcript.whisperx[1857].text 我現在要講一個是
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transcript.whisperx[1858].text 現在在我們
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transcript.whisperx[1859].text 野豉啊菜豉啊
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transcript.whisperx[1860].text 看到的是
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transcript.whisperx[1861].text 這個免錢地這個口袋都沒有
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transcript.whisperx[1862].text 現在沒有油
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transcript.whisperx[1863].text 現在要電10趟
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transcript.whisperx[1864].text 結果都來2趟3趟
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transcript.whisperx[1865].text 一趟油本來是600多塊
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transcript.whisperx[1866].text 現在都起到青季了
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transcript.whisperx[1867].text 那個攤亂
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transcript.whisperx[1868].text 那種種什麼的
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transcript.whisperx[1869].text 大家要叫靠北靠北
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transcript.whisperx[1870].text 起雞起一尾喔
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transcript.whisperx[1871].text 所以我要給大家知道
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transcript.whisperx[1872].text 我們在這邊審法案
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transcript.whisperx[1873].text 事實上末端已經出大事了
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transcript.whisperx[1874].text 所以這邊讓大家知道
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transcript.whisperx[1875].text 部長這邊要怎麼改觀
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transcript.whisperx[1876].text 要很感謝的檢察官
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transcript.whisperx[1877].text 林察秋
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transcript.whisperx[1878].text 今天讓你們2個人都不要背黑鍋
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transcript.whisperx[1879].text 就是中聯跟五家
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transcript.whisperx[1880].text 根本亂搞嘛
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transcript.whisperx[1881].text 根本是都聽中聯董事長一句話
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transcript.whisperx[1882].text 其他五家都黏黏的
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transcript.whisperx[1883].end 7861.85
transcript.whisperx[1883].text 今天都不做
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transcript.whisperx[1884].text 都中聯在做
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transcript.whisperx[1885].text 做成品大票頭去就上架了
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transcript.whisperx[1886].text 所以這個根本是
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transcript.whisperx[1887].text 整個都弄懂
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transcript.whisperx[1888].end 7873.07
transcript.whisperx[1888].text 我都錄
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transcript.whisperx[1889].text 看都沒有
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transcript.whisperx[1890].text 管線沒到
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transcript.whisperx[1891].text 管線沒燒就是
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transcript.whisperx[1892].text 江志剛署長
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transcript.whisperx[1893].text 跟署長兩部長
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transcript.whisperx[1894].text 兩個人在背黑鍋
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transcript.whisperx[1895].text 他們根本都搞不清楚
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transcript.whisperx[1896].text 人家已經發生三個月了
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transcript.whisperx[1897].text 所以這個要修法就要修
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transcript.whisperx[1898].text 打蛇打到頭
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transcript.whisperx[1899].text 不要這樣修著先
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transcript.whisperx[1900].text 所以我建議這條保留
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transcript.whisperx[1901].text 不要再討論了
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transcript.whisperx[1902].text 現在請黃政卓委員
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transcript.whisperx[1903].text 好謝謝說不要再討論
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transcript.whisperx[1904].text 不過我還是針對這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[1905].text 再做一點報告跟說明
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transcript.whisperx[1906].text 其實大家剛剛都談得非常清楚
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transcript.whisperx[1907].text 那為什麼會在
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transcript.whisperx[1908].text 希望在這個新政策條款的第二項
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transcript.whisperx[1909].text 再把一些內容
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transcript.whisperx[1910].text 能夠有一個前後的順序
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transcript.whisperx[1911].text 主要是這樣
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transcript.whisperx[1912].text 我們也瞭解有一些突發狀況
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transcript.whisperx[1913].text 的確就是在某一個
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transcript.whisperx[1914].text 單一縣市出現
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transcript.whisperx[1915].text 這個出現的時候當然他要
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transcript.whisperx[1916].text 依照該有的程序
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transcript.whisperx[1917].text 來通報的同時
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transcript.whisperx[1918].text 他如果覺得這是很重要
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transcript.whisperx[1919].text 當然我們可以去再如果
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transcript.whisperx[1920].text 定義什麼是重大什麼是突發
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transcript.whisperx[1921].text 不過對那個縣市來講
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transcript.whisperx[1922].text 如果他真的是希望能夠
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transcript.whisperx[1923].text 第一時間就有一個
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transcript.whisperx[1924].text 很好的措施的話
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transcript.whisperx[1925].text 然後他們也允許成立一個指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1926].text 這個就是我們希望透過
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transcript.whisperx[1927].text 這個第二項
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transcript.whisperx[1928].text 的一些文字來做
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transcript.whisperx[1929].text 必要的修正所以才會把
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transcript.whisperx[1930].text 這個相關的
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transcript.whisperx[1931].text 採行必要措施
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transcript.whisperx[1932].text 並得成立指揮
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transcript.whisperx[1933].text 中心這個文字把它放進來
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transcript.whisperx[1934].text 那當我們瞭解
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transcript.whisperx[1935].text 這個支轄市完成這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[1936].text 的以後呢他必須要同時
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transcript.whisperx[1937].text 來通報中央主管機關
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transcript.whisperx[1938].text 那個時候很有可能中央主管機關還沒有
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transcript.whisperx[1939].text 掌握到或者是
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transcript.whisperx[1940].text 還沒有很完整的資訊
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transcript.whisperx[1941].text 所以這個時候他也需要
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transcript.whisperx[1942].text 完成這個通報
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transcript.whisperx[1943].text 那等到通報結束以後
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transcript.whisperx[1944].text 那前項的這個
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transcript.whisperx[1945].text 本來就在運作或者是
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transcript.whisperx[1946].text 根據目前的法條
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transcript.whisperx[1947].text 在運作這個通報中央主管機關
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transcript.whisperx[1948].text 在前項指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[1949].text 也成立了以後呢
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transcript.whisperx[1950].text 就依照他的指示來辦理
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transcript.whisperx[1951].text 這個時候中央跟地方
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transcript.whisperx[1952].text 的權責就會很清楚
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transcript.whisperx[1953].text 希望能夠讓所有委員
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transcript.whisperx[1954].text 對這方面的疑慮
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transcript.whisperx[1955].text 有所釐清以上
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transcript.whisperx[1956].text 謝謝現在請廖委員
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transcript.whisperx[1957].text 我還是覺得這條真的很奇怪
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transcript.whisperx[1958].text 剛剛當然有講到說
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transcript.whisperx[1959].text 地方上什麼個別
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transcript.whisperx[1960].text 的案例說實在個別案例出現
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transcript.whisperx[1961].text 的時候這個衛生局馬上都有
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transcript.whisperx[1962].text 一直持續在現在第一線在處理
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transcript.whisperx[1963].text 就是不就是發生了他就趕快去處理
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transcript.whisperx[1964].text 趕快去調查後市場調查
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transcript.whisperx[1965].text 然後也會一直開會
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transcript.whisperx[1966].text 那現在所謂的
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transcript.whisperx[1967].text 重大食安以這次來看就是一個
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transcript.whisperx[1968].text 源頭原物料然後他
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transcript.whisperx[1969].text 就是灑滿了全台
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transcript.whisperx[1970].text 這當然本來就應該趕快
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transcript.whisperx[1971].text 剪起來做啊衛福部或是食安辦本來就
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transcript.whisperx[1972].text 應該趕快跨部會起來
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transcript.whisperx[1973].text 來做然後又是這麼嚴重的事
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transcript.whisperx[1974].text 就可以做的事情
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transcript.whisperx[1975].text 如果硬要這樣子成立
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transcript.whisperx[1976].text 我實在是覺得疊床架物
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transcript.whisperx[1977].text 然後你還要說我還要陳報
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transcript.whisperx[1978].text 然後陳報到上級
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transcript.whisperx[1979].text 然後核定之後開始做
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transcript.whisperx[1980].text 這個時間不就拖了很久嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1981].text 你發現的時候你該怎麼處理
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transcript.whisperx[1982].text 不就趕快該怎麼辦有哪些法條
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transcript.whisperx[1983].text 該下架的這些目前
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transcript.whisperx[1984].text 四支五條也該有的都有了
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transcript.whisperx[1985].text 所以我實在是覺得
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transcript.whisperx[1986].text 這一條的授權反而會讓
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transcript.whisperx[1987].text 這件事情變得更加的複雜
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transcript.whisperx[1988].text 而且在行政上面又以層層
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transcript.whisperx[1989].text 把關然後到時候Bug
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transcript.whisperx[1990].text 越來越多越來越卡
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transcript.whisperx[1991].text 那你到底什麼東西叫做
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transcript.whisperx[1992].text 重大什麼叫什麼叫做土發
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transcript.whisperx[1993].text 然後你訂了一個標準之後
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transcript.whisperx[1994].text 以後有一些超過了
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transcript.whisperx[1995].text 這個標準的然後他又是一個重大
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transcript.whisperx[1996].text 食安事件或者是這個事實
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transcript.whisperx[1997].text 上它是但是你在設定的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1998].text 你沒有把這個東西寫進去你也沒想
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transcript.whisperx[1999].text 到那結果又發生了一個
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transcript.whisperx[2000].text 毒害全台灣的事情的時候
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transcript.whisperx[2001].text 然後你再說這個當初沒有界定好
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transcript.whisperx[2002].text 沒有界定到然後再修一條法進去
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transcript.whisperx[2003].text 那這個也沒有從真的
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transcript.whisperx[2004].text 從源頭或是從實質上
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transcript.whisperx[2005].text 保護到民眾的食安所以我覺得
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transcript.whisperx[2006].text 這個東西的出現
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transcript.whisperx[2007].text 不是說你不是說一定要這個法你才可以
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transcript.whisperx[2008].text 去做所謂的這個中央指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[2009].end 8114.86
transcript.whisperx[2009].text 或跨部會溝通嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2010].text 對啊我覺得現在這個真的是很奇怪
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transcript.whisperx[2011].text 嗯
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transcript.whisperx[2012].end 8121.12
transcript.whisperx[2012].text 好請我們還有一位委員
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transcript.whisperx[2013].text 這個我再發言一次
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transcript.whisperx[2014].text 其實食安的問題
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transcript.whisperx[2015].text 真的是要一條邊
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transcript.whisperx[2016].text 所謂的一條邊就是
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transcript.whisperx[2017].text 它是一個很緊密的整合
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transcript.whisperx[2018].text 而不是去區分說
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transcript.whisperx[2019].text 哦趕快大家把
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transcript.whisperx[2020].text 前者講清楚哦這幾個
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transcript.whisperx[2021].text 是中央的事情這幾個
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transcript.whisperx[2022].text 是地方的事情
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transcript.whisperx[2024].text 越分越清楚那就是
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transcript.whisperx[2025].text 會越來越卡
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transcript.whisperx[2026].text 所以如果修法的方向是說哦要理性的
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transcript.whisperx[2028].text 什麼是地方的我可以預告
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transcript.whisperx[2029].text 這辦不了事情
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transcript.whisperx[2030].text 下一個食安事件的時候還是
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transcript.whisperx[2031].text 在分說這是你中央
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transcript.whisperx[2032].text 這是我地方那這件事情
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transcript.whisperx[2034].text 就是權責相符嘛今天
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transcript.whisperx[2035].text 我一再強調2014年的
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transcript.whisperx[2037].text 完全已經賦予了行政院
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transcript.whisperx[2040].text 第二條就開宗明義哦
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transcript.whisperx[2041].text 是由院長來擔任食安
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transcript.whisperx[2043].text 的修法背景就是爆發重大的
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transcript.whisperx[2044].text 食用有事件所以覺得
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transcript.whisperx[2045].text 就是讓他一條邊
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transcript.whisperx[2046].text 我們也給中央最大的
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transcript.whisperx[2047].text 權限是行政院
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transcript.whisperx[2049].text 都還希望院長
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transcript.whisperx[2050].text 來擔任會議的召見為的是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[2051].text 就是說你中央的這個體系
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transcript.whisperx[2052].text 透過立法的授權
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transcript.whisperx[2053].text 是給你最大的權限
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transcript.whisperx[2054].text 權限開到最大
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transcript.whisperx[2055].text 所以你可以自由的去指揮
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transcript.whisperx[2056].text 運用整合
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transcript.whisperx[2057].text 事實上都不應該有問題才對
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transcript.whisperx[2060].text 下到地方的時候
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transcript.whisperx[2061].text 我覺得現在中央缺乏的是什麼是溝通
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transcript.whisperx[2062].text 你就找地方來開會
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transcript.whisperx[2066].text 就大家各自講各自的
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transcript.whisperx[2067].text 是這個斷了線而不是
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transcript.whisperx[2068].text 再去修法說哦我要寫清楚
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transcript.whisperx[2070].text 地方在哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[2073].text 不是啊那你現在的食藥署
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transcript.whisperx[2074].text 是怎麼發揮你的功能的
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transcript.whisperx[2077].text 各地的中心為什麼中
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transcript.whisperx[2081].text 這個大腦這個運作嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2082].text 那結果你現在說哦
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transcript.whisperx[2083].text 因為二次二我沒有這個
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transcript.whisperx[2087].text 而且我覺得真的要重整就是
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transcript.whisperx[2088].text 找地方來開會
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transcript.whisperx[2089].text 我們原來食安法就是這樣的精神
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transcript.whisperx[2091].text 抱歉就是中央指揮
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transcript.whisperx[2092].text 系統我為了方便運作
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transcript.whisperx[2093].text 那就是請大家配合
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transcript.whisperx[2095].text 都是配合過去的重大食安事件
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transcript.whisperx[2100].text 地方的手掌才跳出來啊
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transcript.whisperx[2101].text 過去你們說要下架有誰敢不
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transcript.whisperx[2104].text 的衛生局有人不做的
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transcript.whisperx[2105].text 沒有吧從來沒有發生吧
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transcript.whisperx[2110].text 而不是分工越細這個才是
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transcript.whisperx[2112].text 那中央你可以告訴立法院你現在
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transcript.whisperx[2114].text 還是還缺什麼但是
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transcript.whisperx[2117].text 邊你就是那個大腦你就是
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transcript.whisperx[2121].text 讓你這個整個的功能
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transcript.whisperx[2122].text 可以更強大去指揮各
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transcript.whisperx[2123].text 地方把這件事情做好這個才是我們
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transcript.whisperx[2126].text 中央負責多少地方負責多少
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transcript.whisperx[2129].text 就會更支離破碎這不是
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transcript.whisperx[2130].text 把事情做好的方向
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transcript.whisperx[2132].text 輪替不管哪一黨將來
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transcript.whisperx[2133].text 來執政我真的覺得食安
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transcript.whisperx[2134].text 要辦好是整合
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transcript.whisperx[2136].text 割再切割
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transcript.whisperx[2139].text 都是用中聯由
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transcript.whisperx[2140].text 都設想的是中聯由止
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transcript.whisperx[2141].text 這個事件在設想
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transcript.whisperx[2144].text 王政旭委員老實說
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transcript.whisperx[2145].text 因為我是現在才看到
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transcript.whisperx[2147].text 拿出來看就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2149].text 講的區域性的
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transcript.whisperx[2150].text 不是食品製造業
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transcript.whisperx[2151].text 的有可能是個別
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transcript.whisperx[2152].text 餐廳的個別中央廚房的
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transcript.whisperx[2153].text 個別店家的
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transcript.whisperx[2154].text 個別小吃攤的
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transcript.whisperx[2155].text 那這一種
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transcript.whisperx[2156].text 這種狀態
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transcript.whisperx[2157].text 區域型社區型的啦
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transcript.whisperx[2158].text 那讓他們得以
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transcript.whisperx[2159].text 成立指揮中心採取必要
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transcript.whisperx[2160].text 的措施這是一個克責
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transcript.whisperx[2161].text 當然也是一個負權
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transcript.whisperx[2162].text 賦予他們權力但也是刻意
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transcript.whisperx[2163].text 他們責任那這樣的設計
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transcript.whisperx[2164].text 來想的話
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transcript.whisperx[2165].text 我們需要反對嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2166].text 我的意思是說
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transcript.whisperx[2167].text 這樣子啦
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transcript.whisperx[2168].text 但是
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transcript.whisperx[2169].text 或者是可能需要預防性下架的
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transcript.whisperx[2170].text 這一些我們
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transcript.whisperx[2171].text 清楚的明列以後
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transcript.whisperx[2172].text 再來談說或其他
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transcript.whisperx[2175].text 經評估認為有必要的
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transcript.whisperx[2176].text 這樣子才是我的意思
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transcript.whisperx[2177].text 因為部長是說把我的意見
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transcript.whisperx[2178].text 放在立法說明欄
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transcript.whisperx[2179].text 但如果大家都覺得說只要涉及到
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transcript.whisperx[2180].text 我講那個東西就要中央
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transcript.whisperx[2181].text 啟動的話那這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[2182].text 也是算是清楚啦
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transcript.whisperx[2183].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[2184].text 謝謝請第二位小委員
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transcript.whisperx[2185].text 其實我
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transcript.whisperx[2186].text 我是覺得淑芬委員的確
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transcript.whisperx[2187].text 長期很關心食安不過我覺得
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transcript.whisperx[2188].text 在這件事情上面我還是跟她有點不
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transcript.whisperx[2189].text 一樣的意見喔
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transcript.whisperx[2190].text 你說如果說從地方
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transcript.whisperx[2191].text 的案件來看好了我就拿
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transcript.whisperx[2192].text 保齡查試來講喔她雖然可能是
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transcript.whisperx[2193].text 個案可是你沒有在最後把她
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transcript.whisperx[2194].text 查出來的時候你怎麼知道是個案
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transcript.whisperx[2196].text 細的情況之下到時候也是一樣推來
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transcript.whisperx[2197].text 推去之外假設她不是個案
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transcript.whisperx[2198].text 呢她已經擴散到台灣
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transcript.whisperx[2199].text 到底哪些地方去了有多少人
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transcript.whisperx[2200].text 吃下去可能有多少人死亡
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transcript.whisperx[2203].text 有時候會有一些八個出現啦
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transcript.whisperx[2204].text 學校營養午餐中毒事件啦
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transcript.whisperx[2205].text 譬如說啦對啦
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transcript.whisperx[2206].text 當然有可能可是你在發生的那個當下
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transcript.whisperx[2207].text 如果你馬上把她切的時候這個只有
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transcript.whisperx[2208].text 在地方性你沒有地方中央
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transcript.whisperx[2209].text 要通報中央喔
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transcript.whisperx[2210].text 她這個是成立了
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transcript.whisperx[2213].text 一起去調查嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2214].text 因為對對我意思是說現在
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transcript.whisperx[2215].text 但是現在沒有條文也要通過
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transcript.whisperx[2216].text 對啊不是應該本來就是這樣嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2217].text 文字有寫要通報
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transcript.whisperx[2218].text 當然是大家討論我
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transcript.whisperx[2219].text 不是我的修正我也不認為說
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transcript.whisperx[2220].text 應該一定百分之百就必須要這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[2221].text 但我是來提出來討論是說
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transcript.whisperx[2222].text 社區型的譬如說
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transcript.whisperx[2223].text 就是中央餐廚供應學校
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transcript.whisperx[2226].text 你知道辦的請客啊
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transcript.whisperx[2227].text 廟會啊這一種的
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transcript.whisperx[2229].text 可能也會比較大一點啦但是
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transcript.whisperx[2231].text 的這種情境啦但是如果大家
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transcript.whisperx[2233].text 大家看看怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[2235].text 應啟動的門檻
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transcript.whisperx[2237].text 也寫上去免得
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transcript.whisperx[2241].text 好請署長
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transcript.whisperx[2242].text 主席是不是讓我簡單的說明一下
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transcript.whisperx[2244].text 這個
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transcript.whisperx[2247].text 41條
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transcript.whisperx[2249].text 第一項那麼地方
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transcript.whisperx[2251].text 只有在第二項
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transcript.whisperx[2252].text 授予
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transcript.whisperx[2254].text 使得為前項之措施
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transcript.whisperx[2255].text 所以這個是很明顯的
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transcript.whisperx[2258].text 那麼應該要如何
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transcript.whisperx[2261].text 賦予的權責分別在
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transcript.whisperx[2262].text 第四條
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transcript.whisperx[2263].text 搭配
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transcript.whisperx[2264].text 第四條是給予中央主管機關的第五項
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transcript.whisperx[2267].text 限制停止輸入
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transcript.whisperx[2268].text 查驗製造加工以及
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transcript.whisperx[2269].text 下架封存這個
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transcript.whisperx[2270].text 回收這個改制
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transcript.whisperx[2271].text 等等沒入銷毀等等
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transcript.whisperx[2272].text 給地方的授權呢
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transcript.whisperx[2273].text 則是在第五條搭配第41條
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transcript.whisperx[2277].text 這個授權上來看的話
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transcript.whisperx[2278].text 那麼就缺乏了
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transcript.whisperx[2280].text 所以我們才會在
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transcript.whisperx[2281].text 這一次的修法裡面讓
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transcript.whisperx[2282].text 第二條之二
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transcript.whisperx[2284].text 哪些事件
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transcript.whisperx[2286].text 那麼成立指揮中心的時候
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transcript.whisperx[2287].text 讓他有一致性的全國性
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transcript.whisperx[2288].text 的規定的授權
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transcript.whisperx[2289].text 不然各自有賦予的法律規定
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transcript.whisperx[2290].text 其次呢那麼要再提的是
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transcript.whisperx[2291].text 是不是要明定是跨縣市就要成立
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transcript.whisperx[2292].text 這倒也不一定
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transcript.whisperx[2293].text 以去年為例
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transcript.whisperx[2294].text 有這個
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transcript.whisperx[2295].text 大廠啊用這個
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transcript.whisperx[2296].text 工業用的雙氧水
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transcript.whisperx[2298].text 工廠他是設在
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transcript.whisperx[2299].text 這個這個
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transcript.whisperx[2300].text 屏東但是他的銷售點呢
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transcript.whisperx[2303].text 台北包含新北
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transcript.whisperx[2304].text 包含屏東
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transcript.whisperx[2305].text 好幾個縣市但是因為
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transcript.whisperx[2306].text 的量並不大很快的
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transcript.whisperx[2307].text 追蹤溯源之後就就處理掉了
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transcript.whisperx[2308].text 他也沒有說一定要去
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transcript.whisperx[2309].text 這個指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[2310].text 那我們之所以會寫重大跟突發呢
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transcript.whisperx[2311].text 主要是對應呢
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transcript.whisperx[2312].text 現行條文的
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transcript.whisperx[2313].text 第四條中央主管機關
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transcript.whisperx[2315].text 的時候那麼要做
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transcript.whisperx[2316].text 哪些事情所以其實是跟
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transcript.whisperx[2317].text 第四條有一點
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transcript.whisperx[2318].text 對應所以去定出
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transcript.whisperx[2321].text 不見得是重大
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transcript.whisperx[2324].text 第三條去定他的
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transcript.whisperx[2325].text 啟動要件作業程序等等
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transcript.whisperx[2326].text 所以這個是
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transcript.whisperx[2327].text 這個我們在這個
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transcript.whisperx[2328].text 這個修法的時候的考量
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transcript.whisperx[2329].text 那麼其次呢
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transcript.whisperx[2330].text 那麼到底有沒有這個必要性
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transcript.whisperx[2331].text 確實也有他統籌
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transcript.whisperx[2340].text 所以他不見得有檢驗的能力
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transcript.whisperx[2341].text 這個檢驗是可能是
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transcript.whisperx[2352].text 樣本所以等於就必須要
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transcript.whisperx[2354].text 去做優先的
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transcript.whisperx[2357].text 所以才會在這個法裡面
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transcript.whisperx[2358].text 去明定任有
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transcript.whisperx[2360].text 還有整合人員
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transcript.whisperx[2361].text 需要的時候才去
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transcript.whisperx[2362].text 成立這個指揮中心
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transcript.whisperx[2363].text 讓這個主管機關
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transcript.whisperx[2364].text 有明確的授權去調度
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transcript.whisperx[2367].text 那我們進行第三
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transcript.whisperx[2368].text 進行第三條
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transcript.whisperx[2370].text 第三條先請衛福部說明
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transcript.whisperx[2372].text 第三條我們
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transcript.whisperx[2373].text 名詞的定義的部分
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transcript.whisperx[2376].text 業者冒號之網際
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transcript.whisperx[2381].text 以上說明
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transcript.whisperx[2382].text 委員會見第三條
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transcript.whisperx[2384].text 原本提案通過
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transcript.whisperx[2387].text 第三項的部分我們特別提到
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transcript.whisperx[2388].text 資譯體系應救食品的
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transcript.whisperx[2389].text 安全衛生的文字上面的修正
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transcript.whisperx[2391].text 第四條
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transcript.whisperx[2392].text 第四項
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transcript.whisperx[2393].text 第四項
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transcript.whisperx[2394].text 第四項
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transcript.whisperx[2395].text 第四項
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transcript.whisperx[2396].text 第四項
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transcript.whisperx[2397].text 第四項
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transcript.whisperx[2398].text 第四項
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transcript.whisperx[2399].text 第四項
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transcript.whisperx[2400].text 第四項
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transcript.whisperx[2402].text 同一條裡面把專業人員
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transcript.whisperx[2403].text 把公共衛生納入
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transcript.whisperx[2407].text 第三項我們可以公布產品名稱流向及其必要的資訊
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transcript.whisperx[2408].text 這裡在委員的意見裡面我們進一步做參採
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transcript.whisperx[2409].text 以上說明
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transcript.whisperx[2413].text 提出的修法
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transcript.whisperx[2414].text 最主要是以資訊的公開
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transcript.whisperx[2415].text 為依據
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transcript.whisperx[2417].text 因為我們看到20%的
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transcript.whisperx[2418].text 一個專家會議一直到一個半月
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transcript.whisperx[2419].text 之後才把會議記錄
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transcript.whisperx[2420].text 公開於四
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transcript.whisperx[2423].text 還有這個20%的一個
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transcript.whisperx[2425].text 所以我們在最後面
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transcript.whisperx[2426].text 增設了一個兩條
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transcript.whisperx[2427].text 第一條就是
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transcript.whisperx[2429].text 衛生管理措施
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transcript.whisperx[2430].text 應該要在風險評估
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transcript.whisperx[2433].text 七日內公告
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transcript.whisperx[2444].text 什麼停止
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transcript.whisperx[2445].text 輸入 停止製造
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transcript.whisperx[2460].text 片片段段的資訊做成一個決斷
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transcript.whisperx[2512].text 這是很危險的事情
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transcript.whisperx[2514].text 這一條我很堅持 以上
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transcript.whisperx[2515].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[2517].text 完整修理
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transcript.whisperx[2519].text 其實我們相對是希望把
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transcript.whisperx[2520].text 相關的專家也都能夠
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transcript.whisperx[2526].text 要守護全民的這個
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transcript.whisperx[2528].text 一定要非常多的專家與會
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transcript.whisperx[2532].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[2533].text 剛剛的報告裡面有參採到我們的意見
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transcript.whisperx[2534].text 以上
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transcript.whisperx[2536].text 首先感謝民眾黨這邊提供的這個意見
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transcript.whisperx[2557].text 管理的措施
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transcript.whisperx[2560].text 另外我們針對
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transcript.whisperx[2562].text 在食藥署以建置的
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transcript.whisperx[2564].text 並適時的公告
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transcript.whisperx[2565].text 公開報告
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transcript.whisperx[2566].text 比較不宜
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transcript.whisperx[2567].text 那這就是定一個統一的公布期限
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transcript.whisperx[2568].text 因為中間還是有一些
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transcript.whisperx[2573].text 剛才提到
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transcript.whisperx[2575].text 食安政策
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transcript.whisperx[2576].text 應由公投來進行
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transcript.whisperx[2577].text 因為
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transcript.whisperx[2579].text 現行的
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transcript.whisperx[2580].text 公投已經有公投法
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transcript.whisperx[2582].text 是否按照原來公投法相關規定來進行
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transcript.whisperx[2584].text 專業人員的納採的部分
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transcript.whisperx[2585].text 我們也在我們的第二項
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transcript.whisperx[2586].text 裡面特別把公共衛生
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transcript.whisperx[2587].text 相關的專家也納入我們的專家
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transcript.whisperx[2590].text 好 先請陳肇志
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transcript.whisperx[2591].text 麻煩同仁們幫我們秀一下建議
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transcript.whisperx[2595].text 剛剛我們邱委員有提到的一些重點
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transcript.whisperx[2597].text 就拒絕採訪 但是我們兩個都被
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transcript.whisperx[2601].text 當然這個我們要求是七天內
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transcript.whisperx[2602].text 要公布結果
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transcript.whisperx[2603].text 第一個 你對於這些
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transcript.whisperx[2606].text 以避免就是說影響審查的結果
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transcript.whisperx[2607].text 這個是你過去要求建保署
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transcript.whisperx[2608].text 所有的這個委員
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transcript.whisperx[2611].text 且足以影響這個審議結果
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transcript.whisperx[2612].text 這是第一個 第二個你有沒有讓他們
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transcript.whisperx[2614].text 等等事項
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transcript.whisperx[2615].text 我這30年大概
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transcript.whisperx[2616].text 結了七八千件
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transcript.whisperx[2618].text 逐件審查 如果一個醫院藥品審查
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transcript.whisperx[2619].text 那個健保信用是20幾件
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transcript.whisperx[2620].text 一年兩三百件 30年大概七八千件
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transcript.whisperx[2623].text disclose接入這件事
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transcript.whisperx[2624].text 第三 請問廠商參加這個會議的時候
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transcript.whisperx[2625].text 你在健保署所有的做法
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transcript.whisperx[2626].text 都是劣習
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transcript.whisperx[2627].text 他是劣習委員
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transcript.whisperx[2628].text 劣習的意思就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2629].text 他進來報告 他該報告的
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transcript.whisperx[2630].text 但是不足的地方
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transcript.whisperx[2631].text 在場的專家委員可以質問 詢問
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transcript.whisperx[2632].text 他需要的資料
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transcript.whisperx[2633].text 等詢問結束後
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transcript.whisperx[2634].text 像我當主席的時候
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transcript.whisperx[2635].text 我每次都確定他離開大門關好了
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transcript.whisperx[2637].text 請問這三點你這個諮詢會議
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transcript.whisperx[2638].text 風險 食品風險評估會議
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transcript.whisperx[2639].text 它的重要性不會小於每一個
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transcript.whisperx[2640].text 新要的給付
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transcript.whisperx[2641].text 你有沒有做到呢
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transcript.whisperx[2642].text 部長你過去要求
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transcript.whisperx[2644].text 你有做嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2645].text 一個是禁止程序外接觸 不當接觸
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transcript.whisperx[2650].text 先請林義群在位
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transcript.whisperx[2651].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[2652].text 這一條是在規範我們的諮詢委員
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transcript.whisperx[2654].text 要部長回答的
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transcript.whisperx[2655].text 我覺得今天是討論法條
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transcript.whisperx[2656].text 那今天討論法條是不是要去防堵的是
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transcript.whisperx[2657].text 當然法條我就要問說
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transcript.whisperx[2658].text 應該要把利益迴避這個寫上去
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transcript.whisperx[2659].text 為什麼
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transcript.whisperx[2660].text 因為寫上去本來就是委員自己要切結
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transcript.whisperx[2661].text 否則我怎麼知道誰跟誰去吃飯
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transcript.whisperx[2662].text 否則除非每天每個委員我都去盯梢他好了
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transcript.whisperx[2663].text 現在就是他本身就應該自律
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transcript.whisperx[2664].text 他本身就不
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transcript.whisperx[2665].text 如果要擔任人家的委員
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transcript.whisperx[2666].text 我們過去在擔任很多
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transcript.whisperx[2667].text 不管評鑑委員或是輔導委員
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transcript.whisperx[2668].text 都有簽一個切結書
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transcript.whisperx[2669].text 就是你要利益迴避
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transcript.whisperx[2670].text 要跟對方
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transcript.whisperx[2671].text 如果是跟這個
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transcript.whisperx[2672].text 要被你評鑑要被你審查的
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transcript.whisperx[2674].text 事實上是你沒有其他的關係
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transcript.whisperx[2678].text 否則的話我們怎麼知道說
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transcript.whisperx[2679].text 誰跟誰哪一天又吃飯
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transcript.whisperx[2680].text 誰跟誰又去哪裡了
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transcript.whisperx[2683].text 所以反而是
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transcript.whisperx[2686].text 到底會定在哪邊
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transcript.whisperx[2687].text 以上
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transcript.whisperx[2689].text 好那個剛剛
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transcript.whisperx[2690].text 我們秋葉原委員提問的那個問題
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transcript.whisperx[2691].text 其實也是現在外界大家
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transcript.whisperx[2692].text 很關切的議題
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transcript.whisperx[2693].text 我覺得衛福部知道多少
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transcript.whisperx[2694].text 就應該回答多少
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transcript.whisperx[2695].text 不用迴避
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transcript.whisperx[2696].text 因為這次大家檢討非常多
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transcript.whisperx[2697].text 在關鍵性的這個會議當中
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transcript.whisperx[2698].text 有專家學者竟然
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transcript.whisperx[2699].text 其實是跟廠商同車出席會議
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transcript.whisperx[2700].text 然後還接受他的招待
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transcript.whisperx[2701].text 一起共餐
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transcript.whisperx[2702].text 那在這樣的情況底下
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transcript.whisperx[2703].text 我不知道衛福部你事先掌握多少
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transcript.whisperx[2704].text 如果你知道
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transcript.whisperx[2705].text 而沒有去請這個專家學者去迴避
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transcript.whisperx[2706].text 那這是食藥署失職
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transcript.whisperx[2707].text 那你如果不知道
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transcript.whisperx[2708].text 你就應該要檢討
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transcript.whisperx[2709].text 我們今天重新再來講這個修法
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transcript.whisperx[2710].text 那到底在未來我們的機制裡面
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transcript.whisperx[2711].text 你在關鍵性的會議所邀請的這些專家學者
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transcript.whisperx[2712].text 如果他跟食品業者
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transcript.whisperx[2713].text 互動這麼良好
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transcript.whisperx[2714].text 而且是出事的業者
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transcript.whisperx[2715].text 他還來擔任這一個專家學者
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transcript.whisperx[2716].text 還做出關鍵性的決定
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transcript.whisperx[2717].text 那這個決議當然外界就會非議
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transcript.whisperx[2718].text 就會覺得這個是無效的
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transcript.whisperx[2719].text 你這個沒有做到利益迴避
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transcript.whisperx[2720].text 所以這個問題我覺得不用去逃避
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transcript.whisperx[2721].text 大家應該要去面對跟檢討才對
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transcript.whisperx[2722].text 所以衛福部應該要跟外界說明
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transcript.whisperx[2723].text 到底當時你們知不知道這位學者
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transcript.whisperx[2724].text 跟廠商是一起坐車上來台北開會的
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transcript.whisperx[2725].text 然後之前他們還一起去用餐
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transcript.whisperx[2726].text 關係是如此的密切
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transcript.whisperx[2727].text 到底知道或者是不知道
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transcript.whisperx[2728].text 外界其實真的都得不到答案
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transcript.whisperx[2729].text 那我不知道衛福部你們掌握多少
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transcript.whisperx[2730].text 今天部長跟署長就坐在這裡
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transcript.whisperx[2731].text 我認為這個沒有什麼好迴避的
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transcript.whisperx[2732].text 知道就知道
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transcript.whisperx[2733].text 不知道就不知道
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transcript.whisperx[2734].text 重點是這個事件
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transcript.whisperx[2735].text 我們要把它變成是一個檢討
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transcript.whisperx[2736].text 如果將來他對於食安該不該下架
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transcript.whisperx[2737].text 掌握這麼關鍵的話
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transcript.whisperx[2738].text 那這個
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transcript.whisperx[2739].text 利益迴避
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transcript.whisperx[2740].text 怎麼樣避免下次有這樣的情況發生
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transcript.whisperx[2741].text 這次修法是不是我們還可以增加什麼樣的文字
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transcript.whisperx[2742].text 我覺得這個是應該要好好的來討論的
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transcript.whisperx[2743].text 請行政單位
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transcript.whisperx[2744].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[2745].text 跟委員說明
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transcript.whisperx[2746].text 當然剛剛邱委員跟陳昭之委員
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transcript.whisperx[2747].text 非常關切這個周刊所報導的事項
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transcript.whisperx[2748].text 那當然這些周刊報導的事項
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transcript.whisperx[2749].text 在這個食藥署召開這個會議之前
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transcript.whisperx[2750].text 當然是不知情
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transcript.whisperx[2751].text 那麼目前這個也全案
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transcript.whisperx[2752].text 我們都把它移交給檢調去進行調查
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transcript.whisperx[2753].text 包含這整個會議的這個錄音檔等等
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transcript.whisperx[2754].text 這些都已經交給檢調
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transcript.whisperx[2755].text 來查明
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transcript.whisperx[2756].text 都不知情
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transcript.whisperx[2757].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[2758].text 那麼第二個
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transcript.whisperx[2759].text 剛剛提到的
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transcript.whisperx[2760].text 這個所謂的利益迴避
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transcript.whisperx[2761].text 這個根本是很重要
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transcript.whisperx[2762].text 在我們各項的這個會議
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transcript.whisperx[2763].text 重要的這個之一會等等的
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transcript.whisperx[2764].text 都會有這個規定
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transcript.whisperx[2765].text 那在這個條文本身
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transcript.whisperx[2766].text 第四條的
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transcript.whisperx[2767].text 第四項
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transcript.whisperx[2768].text 其實在之一會的這個組成議事程序與範圍
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transcript.whisperx[2769].text 及其他應遵循事項之辦法
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transcript.whisperx[2770].text 這是由中央主管機關會定制
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transcript.whisperx[2771].text 定在這裡
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transcript.whisperx[2772].text 當然委員如果覺得要明定
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transcript.whisperx[2773].text 那也可以在這一項裡面把它再加上
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transcript.whisperx[2774].text 就是讓他很清楚的
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transcript.whisperx[2775].text 本來都是在這個程序
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transcript.whisperx[2776].text 跟遵循事項裡面會去寫
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transcript.whisperx[2777].text 如果要去凸顯這個利益迴避
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transcript.whisperx[2778].text 那也可以在這個文字上去落下
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transcript.whisperx[2779].text 組成議事程序
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transcript.whisperx[2780].text 還有這個範圍及利益迴避之原則
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transcript.whisperx[2781].text 及其他應遵循事項之辦法
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transcript.whisperx[2782].text 那再讓它凸顯
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transcript.whisperx[2783].text 那麼也是可以來這個做文字上的修正
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transcript.whisperx[2784].text 以上的說明
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transcript.whisperx[2785].text 請陳昭制委員
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transcript.whisperx[2786].text 主席謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[2787].text 那個部長我沒有辦法接受說
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transcript.whisperx[2788].text 你們不知情
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transcript.whisperx[2789].text 就是背後我要再解讀這件事
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transcript.whisperx[2790].text 不知情是一件事情
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transcript.whisperx[2791].text 如果你視顯沒有規範這些事情
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transcript.whisperx[2792].text 你不知情當然你不會知情
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transcript.whisperx[2793].text 當然你在背後做
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transcript.whisperx[2794].text 但是你視顯沒有要求來開這樣的重要的會議
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transcript.whisperx[2795].text 你沒有叫他們填寫這些資料嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2796].text 我填了幾千次
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transcript.whisperx[2797].text 那你為什麼沒有讓他們填呢
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transcript.whisperx[2798].text 要這個利益揭露
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transcript.whisperx[2799].text 然後還有程序外接觸
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transcript.whisperx[2800].text 你避開程序外接觸
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transcript.whisperx[2801].text 用共產在這麼這樣敏感的會議之前
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transcript.whisperx[2802].text 又吃飯又一起搭車上來
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transcript.whisperx[2803].text 那根本就是招待嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2804].text 然後剛剛說列席嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2805].text 你列席就是列席嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2806].text 列席你要搞清楚啊
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transcript.whisperx[2807].text 署長
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transcript.whisperx[2808].text 署長列席跟出席不一樣啊
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transcript.whisperx[2809].text 委員跟列席者不一樣啊
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transcript.whisperx[2810].text 當事者來列席啊
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transcript.whisperx[2811].text 這個你懂的啊
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transcript.whisperx[2812].text 誰不懂呢
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transcript.whisperx[2813].text 我們都這樣被遵行管理了幾十年
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transcript.whisperx[2814].text 誰不懂這些事情呢
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transcript.whisperx[2815].text 所以現在不是說你知不知情啊
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transcript.whisperx[2816].text 也不是像說我當然不知道你去吃飯啊
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transcript.whisperx[2817].text 現在是沒有事先要求
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transcript.whisperx[2818].text 你的規範沒有做好
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transcript.whisperx[2819].text 那如果說他撒謊
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transcript.whisperx[2820].text 那是他的原則他的問題
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transcript.whisperx[2821].text 你在我們健保署那個撒謊
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transcript.whisperx[2822].text 那個有十幾條法律都寫在前面
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transcript.whisperx[2823].text 一開始整個議程的那個版
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transcript.whisperx[2824].text 前面都寫說你如果做緋緩這件事
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transcript.whisperx[2825].text 你會犯幾條法規
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transcript.whisperx[2826].text 那你為什麼對食品這個風險這個諮詢會這麼輕鬆
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transcript.whisperx[2827].text 讓他們這麼容易就過關
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transcript.whisperx[2828].text 而且你諮詢委員有固定的
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transcript.whisperx[2829].text 有激動的
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transcript.whisperx[2830].text 你就公佈
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transcript.whisperx[2831].text 為什麼不公佈呢
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transcript.whisperx[2832].text 我們都被公佈在這個網站上啊
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transcript.whisperx[2833].text 我是哪裡來的
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transcript.whisperx[2834].text 我什麼名字我參與這個委員會
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transcript.whisperx[2835].text 你為什麼不公佈呢
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transcript.whisperx[2836].text 名單公佈
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transcript.whisperx[2837].text 利益衝突回避填寫
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transcript.whisperx[2838].text 然後被程序外接觸都要揭露
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transcript.whisperx[2839].text 然後加上這個練習就是練習
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transcript.whisperx[2840].text 練習不能參加實質討論
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transcript.whisperx[2841].text 就這麼簡單嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2842].text 你怎麼對我們你就怎麼對待那個業者嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2843].text 還有署長也是嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2844].text 你不會不懂我現在講的話啊
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transcript.whisperx[2845].text 我在你們這個衛福部裡面擔任
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transcript.whisperx[2847].text 好,謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[2848].text 請問你留言
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transcript.whisperx[2849].text 對,剛剛那個陳昭智委員講
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transcript.whisperx[2850].text 我想這個部長你以前擔任健保署署長
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transcript.whisperx[2851].text 所以這個顯然部會裡面
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transcript.whisperx[2852].text 不同的署之間
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transcript.whisperx[2853].text 他的那個鬆緊
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transcript.whisperx[2854].text 利益迴避落實的程度
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transcript.whisperx[2855].text 看起來是很不一樣的
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transcript.whisperx[2856].text 那經過這次事件
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transcript.whisperx[2857].text 我覺得這個食藥署之前
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transcript.whisperx[2858].text 對於這一些委員的要求
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transcript.whisperx[2859].text 規範跟管理
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transcript.whisperx[2860].text 應該是比較鬆散
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transcript.whisperx[2861].text 那這一些利益迴避的原則
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transcript.whisperx[2862].text 也沒有好好充分的落實
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transcript.whisperx[2863].text 所以我建議第四條這邊
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transcript.whisperx[2864].text 有關於那個利益迴避的事項
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transcript.whisperx[2865].text 剛剛部長同意
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transcript.whisperx[2866].text 應該如果有必要的話
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transcript.whisperx[2867].text 是可以把它寫清楚的
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transcript.whisperx[2868].text 我希望這個衛福部
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transcript.whisperx[2869].text 就是再提一個版本出來
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transcript.whisperx[2870].text 一定要把這個
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transcript.whisperx[2871].text 經過這次事件
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transcript.whisperx[2872].text 一定要把這個利益迴避的寫出來
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transcript.whisperx[2873].text 因為一場會議自為關鍵
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transcript.whisperx[2874].text 這當中有人是在那邊護航的
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transcript.whisperx[2875].text 跟業者關係這麼良好的
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transcript.whisperx[2876].text 當然就做不出什麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[2877].text 是基於人民的這個
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transcript.whisperx[2878].text 食安權益來把關的決策
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transcript.whisperx[2879].text 所以這一個修法
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transcript.whisperx[2880].text 主席我建議那個保留
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transcript.whisperx[2881].text 請那個衛福部把
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transcript.whisperx[2882].text 這個利益迴避的
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transcript.whisperx[2883].text 就是下一次怎麼去防止
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transcript.whisperx[2884].text 把一些利益迴避相關的規範
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transcript.whisperx[2885].text 就是很明確的
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transcript.whisperx[2886].text 再提一個修正東西的版本出來
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transcript.whisperx[2887].text 我們再來處理好不好
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transcript.whisperx[2888].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[2889].text 針對行政機關針對確認
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transcript.whisperx[2890].text 所提的公告實現的因應有嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2891].text 主席
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transcript.whisperx[2892].text 特別針對這個實現的部分
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transcript.whisperx[2893].text 因為的確我們在相關的會議裡面
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transcript.whisperx[2894].text 裡面剛才提到的會議
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transcript.whisperx[2895].text 你包含食品
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transcript.whisperx[2896].text 就風險評估的自議會
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transcript.whisperx[2897].text 以及後面的食品安全衛生與營養自議會
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transcript.whisperx[2898].text 基因改造自議會等等
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transcript.whisperx[2899].text 這相關自議會裡面
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transcript.whisperx[2900].text 前面都是依照科學為基礎的評估
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transcript.whisperx[2902].text 那我想有相當多不一樣的食品
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transcript.whisperx[2903].text 多樣性
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transcript.whisperx[2904].text 所以舉止風險評估自議會出來的結果
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transcript.whisperx[2905].text 常常按照科學的標準做出來的結果
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transcript.whisperx[2906].text 最後參彩的部分
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transcript.whisperx[2907].text 還是有在行政機關裡面
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transcript.whisperx[2908].text 去做參考的原則
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transcript.whisperx[2909].text 所以如果在前面的原則出來
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transcript.whisperx[2910].text 結果直接就公布的過程當中
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transcript.whisperx[2911].text 我相信後續對於整個參彩的原則以外
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transcript.whisperx[2912].text 對於原來的專家的意見跟建議
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transcript.whisperx[2913].text 他的一致性跟不一致性
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transcript.whisperx[2914].text 其實都是在最後的行政機關裡面做決議
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transcript.whisperx[2915].text 所以如果在實現內
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transcript.whisperx[2916].text 裡面做這樣子的一個列入
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transcript.whisperx[2917].text 我們一定會適時的公開報告
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transcript.whisperx[2918].text 但是建議還是不宜以統一一定的時間期限
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transcript.whisperx[2919].text 王委員以及陳委員特別提到
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transcript.whisperx[2920].text 我們在第四項裡面
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transcript.whisperx[2921].text 自議會委員議事之迴避
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transcript.whisperx[2922].text 我們原則上一直以來都是在我們的自議會
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transcript.whisperx[2923].text 以及我們的剛才講的食品安全風險評估
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transcript.whisperx[2924].text 跟其他的各個自議會裡面
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transcript.whisperx[2925].text 一直都有做我們的相關的
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transcript.whisperx[2926].text 共同的利益迴避的相關的事宜
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transcript.whisperx[2927].text 那當天的會議的部分特別提到
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transcript.whisperx[2928].text 因為是來質詢
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transcript.whisperx[2929].text 還不知道完全不知道
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transcript.whisperx[2930].text 他們這麼一樣很遭迴避
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transcript.whisperx[2931].text 而且延遲通報情形
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transcript.whisperx[2932].text 所以我們會對這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[2933].text 我們正式的回應做一些好的修正
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transcript.whisperx[2934].text 正式把他納入我們相關的一些文字
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transcript.whisperx[2935].text 以上謝謝委員的質疑
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transcript.whisperx[2936].text 好 事先請邱非部委員
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transcript.whisperx[2937].text 好 謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[2938].text 我覺得江志剛署長
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transcript.whisperx[2939].text 完全對我們台灣民眾黨
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transcript.whisperx[2940].text 關於第四條第六項跟第七項的修法內容
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transcript.whisperx[2941].text 他一直在講說
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transcript.whisperx[2942].text 衛福部所做的食安管理措施
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transcript.whisperx[2943].text 是以風險
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transcript.whisperx[2944].text 有以這個風險為基礎再制定
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transcript.whisperx[2946].text 但是我們現在修法最主要是說
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transcript.whisperx[2948].text 要公告
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transcript.whisperx[2949].text 要公告你的科學依據
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transcript.whisperx[2950].text 要公告你的風險評估
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transcript.whisperx[2951].text 就像這次20%神秘的會議
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transcript.whisperx[2952].text 你都一直告訴我們有20%的下架原則
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transcript.whisperx[2954].text 所以我們要求的是你公告
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transcript.whisperx[2955].text 那至於前階段你的安全管理措施
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transcript.whisperx[2958].text 如果有當然很好
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transcript.whisperx[2959].text 沒有的話要改進
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transcript.whisperx[2960].text 好 那有的話你要公告於是
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transcript.whisperx[2961].text 讓人家知道說你的安全管理措施
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transcript.whisperx[2963].text 這是第一件事情
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transcript.whisperx[2964].text 所以不要畫錯重點
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transcript.whisperx[2967].text 你也提到說現行法就有規範
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transcript.whisperx[2968].text 就是第四條第四項
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transcript.whisperx[2969].text 那這裡迴避就是準用行政程序法
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transcript.whisperx[2970].text 那後面就提到說
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transcript.whisperx[2972].text 那就另以辦法訂定
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transcript.whisperx[2973].text 那造資委員有提到說
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transcript.whisperx[2974].text 他以主席的身分或諮詢委員的身分
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transcript.whisperx[2981].text 那我現在想問一件事就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2982].text 到底這些專家
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transcript.whisperx[2983].text 因為這都現行法了
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transcript.whisperx[2984].text 不是未來要修法的
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transcript.whisperx[2992].text 現在進行第五條
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transcript.whisperx[2993].text 先請會不會說明
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transcript.whisperx[2995].text 那非常謝謝台灣民眾黨
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transcript.whisperx[2996].text 以及委員王委員的建議
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transcript.whisperx[2997].text 那我們針對建議之後
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transcript.whisperx[2999].text 整並的第一項跟第二項
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transcript.whisperx[3004].text 並統一文字
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transcript.whisperx[3013].text 納入第三款
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transcript.whisperx[3022].text 其配合條文的架構調整
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transcript.whisperx[3028].text 做了一個完整
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transcript.whisperx[3033].text 我們知道
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transcript.whisperx[3039].text 管制措施也好
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transcript.whisperx[3046].text 命這些業者停止製造
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transcript.whisperx[3047].text 加工販賣等等的
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transcript.whisperx[3058].text 最重要的就是
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transcript.whisperx[3079].text 然後原料的來源
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transcript.whisperx[3080].text 產品的流向
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transcript.whisperx[3081].text 這些都應該要主動揭露
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transcript.whisperx[3082].text 如果是屬於一個
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transcript.whisperx[3083].text 重大的案件的話
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transcript.whisperx[3084].text 不能夠持續三日來揭露
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transcript.whisperx[3085].text 當然我們知道現行的
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transcript.whisperx[3086].text 關於一些原料的來源
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transcript.whisperx[3087].text 目前衛福部的
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transcript.whisperx[3088].text 做法是逐批或者是
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transcript.whisperx[3089].text 逐批或者是每六個月
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transcript.whisperx[3090].text 那我們在這邊
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transcript.whisperx[3091].text 採一個區分的標準
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transcript.whisperx[3092].text 如果是一些具一定類別
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transcript.whisperx[3093].text 跟規模的食品業者
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transcript.whisperx[3094].text 我們對於這些
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transcript.whisperx[3095].text 產品
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transcript.whisperx[3096].text 那產品這兩個字
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transcript.whisperx[3097].text 當然就包括原料
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transcript.whisperx[3098].text 成品跟半成品
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transcript.whisperx[3099].text 不像衛福部現在好像
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transcript.whisperx[3100].text 認為原料跟半成品
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transcript.whisperx[3101].text 不是產品
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transcript.whisperx[3102].text 那我們對於這種產品
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transcript.whisperx[3103].text 就是原料半成品跟成品
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transcript.whisperx[3104].text 如果是一些
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transcript.whisperx[3105].text 具有高風險的
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transcript.whisperx[3106].text 一定規模的食品業者
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transcript.whisperx[3107].text 應該要逐批
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transcript.whisperx[3108].text 那如果是其他的
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transcript.whisperx[3109].text 當然就是現行是六個月
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transcript.whisperx[3110].text 就縮減為三個月
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transcript.whisperx[3111].text 提升抽驗的密度
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transcript.whisperx[3112].text 那如果是三個月的食品
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transcript.whisperx[3113].text 又是屬於比較關鍵食品的話
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transcript.whisperx[3114].text 那又應該轉變為逐批
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transcript.whisperx[3116].text 產品甚至應該是
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transcript.whisperx[3117].text 要有一個強制抽查的
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transcript.whisperx[3118].text 一個義務這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[3119].text 主管機關應該對這些產品
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transcript.whisperx[3120].text 來做一個強制的抽查
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transcript.whisperx[3121].text 那除此之外
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transcript.whisperx[3122].text 我們針對這一次
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transcript.whisperx[3123].text 南橋、福茂、泰山
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transcript.whisperx[3124].text 這些的一些
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transcript.whisperx[3125].text 被我們認為說中聯
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transcript.whisperx[3126].text 有可能之間有共犯結構的關係
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transcript.whisperx[3127].text 我們也做了一個防堵的措施
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transcript.whisperx[3128].text 就是說如果今天供應者
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transcript.whisperx[3129].text 跟被供應者
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transcript.whisperx[3130].text 在這個倒數第三項
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transcript.whisperx[3131].text 跟第四項的地方
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transcript.whisperx[3132].text 如果供應者跟被供應者
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transcript.whisperx[3133].text 他們根據公司的股權結構
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transcript.whisperx[3134].text 相互間有投資者跟被投資者的關係
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transcript.whisperx[3135].text 那主管機關應該每半年
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transcript.whisperx[3136].text 對供應者跟被供應者
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transcript.whisperx[3137].text 至少抽查一次
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transcript.whisperx[3138].text 那如果抽查出來
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transcript.whisperx[3139].text 發現有違反食品安全衛生法的情勢的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3140].text 主管機關應該針對供應者
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transcript.whisperx[3141].text 例如說這個南橋
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transcript.whisperx[3142].text 有發生這樣的事情
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transcript.whisperx[3143].text 那現在中聯就是查到了之後
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transcript.whisperx[3144].text 對於跟中聯有相關的這些
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transcript.whisperx[3146].text 例如說福茂、泰山這些的
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transcript.whisperx[3147].text 也應該要去做一個
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transcript.whisperx[3148].text 加強的主動查驗
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transcript.whisperx[3149].text 那除此之外
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transcript.whisperx[3150].text 這一次因為衛福部部長自己口中
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transcript.whisperx[3151].text 所這個披露給大家知道的
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transcript.whisperx[3152].text 就是這些食品業者
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transcript.whisperx[3153].text 有這個抽樣樣本造假的問題
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transcript.whisperx[3154].text 所以我們這邊提到說
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transcript.whisperx[3155].text 關於樣本的一個抽樣採驗
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transcript.whisperx[3156].text 不得由食品業者交付主管機關
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transcript.whisperx[3157].text 食品業者
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transcript.whisperx[3158].text 食品樣本的採集
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transcript.whisperx[3159].text 應該由主管機關親自為之
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transcript.whisperx[3160].text 以上說明謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[3161].text 請回
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transcript.whisperx[3162].text 請往右
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transcript.whisperx[3163].text 有關於這個第五條
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transcript.whisperx[3164].text 民眾黨提出來的
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transcript.whisperx[3165].text 針對原材料半成品
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transcript.whisperx[3166].text 成品逐批檢驗的這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[3167].text 其實是很重要
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transcript.whisperx[3168].text 這一次的這個
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transcript.whisperx[3169].text 大豆沙拉有毒有事件
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transcript.whisperx[3170].text 今天最新的消息
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transcript.whisperx[3171].text 檢方那邊講出來的就是
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transcript.whisperx[3172].text 巴西黃豆
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transcript.whisperx[3173].text 原料出了很大的問題
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transcript.whisperx[3174].text 業者知道
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transcript.whisperx[3175].text 巴西黃豆他的本甜品會超高
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transcript.whisperx[3176].text 但是在這個
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transcript.whisperx[3177].text 黃豆他就是原料
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transcript.whisperx[3178].text 原材料
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transcript.whisperx[3179].text 這個這麼重大的
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transcript.whisperx[3180].text 源頭的把關
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transcript.whisperx[3181].text 這一次我們看到了
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transcript.whisperx[3182].text 過去巴西黃豆也沒有
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transcript.whisperx[3183].text 特別在源頭上面
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transcript.whisperx[3184].text 做很確實的把關
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transcript.whisperx[3185].text 業者自己
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transcript.whisperx[3186].text 這樣子私自隱瞞
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transcript.whisperx[3187].text 事實然後
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transcript.whisperx[3188].text 知道是毒有還刻意
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transcript.whisperx[3189].text 製造然後
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transcript.whisperx[3190].text 販售這個真的是
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transcript.whisperx[3191].text 很重大
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transcript.whisperx[3192].text 所以這一次的修法
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transcript.whisperx[3193].text 因為民眾黨是把它寫在第五條
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transcript.whisperx[3194].text 所以講到後面第七條跟第七條之一
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transcript.whisperx[3195].text 我也有類似這樣的看法
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transcript.whisperx[3196].text 應該像黃豆這個
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transcript.whisperx[3197].text 應該是逐傳逐批的
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transcript.whisperx[3198].text 檢驗這個在
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transcript.whisperx[3199].text 行政院的版本裡面都沒有
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transcript.whisperx[3200].text 但是我後面的第七條
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transcript.whisperx[3201].text 第七之一
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transcript.whisperx[3202].text 我的原則也是覺得經過
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transcript.whisperx[3203].text 這一次的食安事件原料的
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transcript.whisperx[3204].text 逐批檢驗是非常非常
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transcript.whisperx[3207].text 也是從
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transcript.whisperx[3208].text 這個原料的部分原料端
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transcript.whisperx[3209].text 加上它的製成
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transcript.whisperx[3210].text 它標榜冷壓但
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transcript.whisperx[3211].text 事實上那個
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transcript.whisperx[3212].text 是
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transcript.whisperx[3214].text 它的苦茶油紙它其實
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transcript.whisperx[3217].text 這一次真的該把關是從
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transcript.whisperx[3224].text 原材料的部分必須
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transcript.whisperx[3247].text 銷毀及相關機制我們現行
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transcript.whisperx[3251].text 的處理辦法另外行政院
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transcript.whisperx[3310].text 後面的我們是否在後面再進一步的
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transcript.whisperx[3352].text 一個交叉持股的
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transcript.whisperx[3353].text 這一些集團
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transcript.whisperx[3354].text 同一集團母公司子公司關係
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transcript.whisperx[3355].text 或是同樣的集團裡面的
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transcript.whisperx[3356].text 子公司跟子公司的關係
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transcript.whisperx[3357].text 在這種狀況裡面
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transcript.whisperx[3358].text 他其實就是
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transcript.whisperx[3359].text 自己人不會揭露自己的
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transcript.whisperx[3360].text 自己的這一些不合格
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transcript.whisperx[3361].text 所以面對同一集團的這一種
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transcript.whisperx[3362].text 風險可能會比不同公司之間會
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transcript.whisperx[3363].text 會更大,所以這也是
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transcript.whisperx[3364].text 一個高風險的狀態
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transcript.whisperx[3365].text 所以我們要把各種各式各樣的
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transcript.whisperx[3366].text 高風險都納管
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transcript.whisperx[3367].text 我覺得這個是好事
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transcript.whisperx[3368].text 但是唯一
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transcript.whisperx[3369].text 比較質疑的就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3370].text 那我們條文應該怎麼寫
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transcript.whisperx[3371].text 才能夠涵蓋全部
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transcript.whisperx[3372].text 才不會掛
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transcript.whisperx[3373].text 掛萬漏一或是掛一漏萬
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transcript.whisperx[3374].text 如果你單寫一個油品
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transcript.whisperx[3375].text 單寫一個油品就是掛了一個一漏了所有的萬
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transcript.whisperx[3376].text 所以我想
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transcript.whisperx[3377].text 精神我個人是表示支持
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transcript.whisperx[3378].text 而且認為也應該要朝這個方向
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transcript.whisperx[3379].text 但是細緻的條文內容可能要大家想一下
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transcript.whisperx[3380].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[3381].text 大家都表示意見
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transcript.whisperx[3382].text 那我們第四條保留,第五條保留
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transcript.whisperx[3383].text 那上午已經有宣告
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transcript.whisperx[3385].text 所以現在休息
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transcript.whisperx[3386].text 下午兩點半繼續開會
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transcript.whisperx[3387].text 謝謝大家
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transcript.whisperx[3388].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3389].text 還有
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transcript.whisperx[3390].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3391].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3392].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3393].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3395].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3397].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3398].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3399].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3400].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3401].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3402].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3403].text 因為你所有的東西是過去的事件
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transcript.whisperx[3404].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3405].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3406].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3407].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3408].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3409].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3410].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3411].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3412].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3413].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3414].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3415].text 你這個想法是有沒有反應
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transcript.whisperx[3416].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3430].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3431].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3432].text 拜拜
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transcript.whisperx[3434].text 先直一邊好了
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transcript.whisperx[3484].text 這樣也比較好
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transcript.whisperx[5649].text 現在繼續開會
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transcript.whisperx[5651].text 先前為何不說明
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transcript.whisperx[5652].text 針對五條之一
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transcript.whisperx[5654].text 要政府
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transcript.whisperx[5655].text 應致力及時充實消費
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transcript.whisperx[5657].text 作為消費行為選擇基礎
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transcript.whisperx[5658].text 以維護其安全
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transcript.whisperx[5659].text 與權益
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transcript.whisperx[5660].text 針對這個修正的部分
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transcript.whisperx[5661].text 因為我們在現行的消保法第五條
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transcript.whisperx[5662].text 已經提到政府企業
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transcript.whisperx[5663].text 經營者及消費者均應致力
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transcript.whisperx[5665].text 提供消費者運用
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transcript.whisperx[5666].text 提供消費人員批能採取正確之合理
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transcript.whisperx[5669].text 我想這部分是否可以暫不鎮定
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transcript.whisperx[5670].text 依照消防法第五條的規定辦理
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transcript.whisperx[5671].text 以上
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transcript.whisperx[5680].text 委員
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transcript.whisperx[5795].text 的報告裡面都有
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transcript.whisperx[5810].text 保留
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transcript.whisperx[5814].text 的部分我們
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transcript.whisperx[5815].text 因為有行政院的版本
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transcript.whisperx[5816].text 以及國民黨等委員民眾黨
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transcript.whisperx[5817].text 委員等等的
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transcript.whisperx[5818].text 提出來的版本
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transcript.whisperx[5821].text 第七條以外也有
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transcript.whisperx[5824].text 針對這個部分我們中整
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transcript.whisperx[5825].text 的各個提案包括重點
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transcript.whisperx[5827].text 檢驗設定最低
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transcript.whisperx[5832].text 認可
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transcript.whisperx[5833].text 定期接受第三方積合
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transcript.whisperx[5834].text 及時記錄製程
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transcript.whisperx[5835].text 關鍵參數並存留至少
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transcript.whisperx[5836].text 五年
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transcript.whisperx[5843].text 積極配合
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transcript.whisperx[5844].text 免罰
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transcript.whisperx[5845].text 並公開表揚
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transcript.whisperx[5846].text 等等的一些
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transcript.whisperx[5848].text 之後維續
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transcript.whisperx[5850].text 指定
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transcript.whisperx[5854].text 裡面徵修在第一項裡面
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transcript.whisperx[5863].text 核定
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transcript.whisperx[5864].text 這是我們第一項裡面做了一個說明
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transcript.whisperx[5870].text 我們提到的
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transcript.whisperx[5894].text 第五項
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transcript.whisperx[5895].text 所訂的產品
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transcript.whisperx[5915].text 擴充授權中央主管機關
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transcript.whisperx[5934].text 及管理的需求
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transcript.whisperx[5935].text 適時調整相關的
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transcript.whisperx[5939].text 制度之建立
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transcript.whisperx[5940].text 我們甄定的第七項
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transcript.whisperx[5941].text 明定中央主管機關
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transcript.whisperx[5946].text 以上說明
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transcript.whisperx[5948].text 謝謝主席我在這邊
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transcript.whisperx[5949].text 講一下我自己的版本還有
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transcript.whisperx[5950].text 我們黨團的版本我自己的
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transcript.whisperx[5951].text 版本是當時
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transcript.whisperx[5952].text 我們這次食安風暴在
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transcript.whisperx[5953].text 討論的時候呢桃園市的副市長
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transcript.whisperx[5954].text 王明駒他在7月21號
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transcript.whisperx[5955].text 會議就講得很清楚
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transcript.whisperx[5956].text 他覺得爭議很大的就是第七條
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transcript.whisperx[5957].text 沒有風險分級
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transcript.whisperx[5958].text 的概念所以
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transcript.whisperx[5960].text 產量市占率還有影響層面
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transcript.whisperx[5961].text 做差異化管理會讓
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transcript.whisperx[5962].text 地方政府跟食品業者承受
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transcript.whisperx[5963].text 非常重的負擔
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transcript.whisperx[5966].text 這個超出他們的
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transcript.whisperx[5967].text 這個量能
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transcript.whisperx[5968].text 那希望可以由中央來統一
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transcript.whisperx[5969].text 訂定標準那這個並不是
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transcript.whisperx[5970].text 只有桃園的
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transcript.whisperx[5971].text 意見因為會後之後
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transcript.whisperx[5972].text 在台北市
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transcript.whisperx[5973].text 台中市高雄市
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transcript.whisperx[5975].text 這個意見尤其是這個陳其邁
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transcript.whisperx[5979].text 地方政府跟業者就是
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transcript.whisperx[5980].text 會非常非常的疲累而且
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transcript.whisperx[5981].text 沒有辦法管理
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transcript.whisperx[5982].text 那他就舉例嘛他在開會那天
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transcript.whisperx[5983].text 他有舉例說比如說
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transcript.whisperx[5984].text 單獨一個餐廳用的
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transcript.whisperx[5985].text 這個超標
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transcript.whisperx[5987].text 還有普遍這個系統性
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transcript.whisperx[5988].text 的這個油品都是食案問題可是
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transcript.whisperx[5989].text 影響的層面差很多
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transcript.whisperx[5990].text 因為一個餐廳不至於造成
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transcript.whisperx[5992].text 的這個油品它是供應
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transcript.whisperx[5993].text 全國市場而且是連動
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transcript.whisperx[5994].text 上下游的加工食品
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transcript.whisperx[5995].text 所以在我的版本
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transcript.whisperx[5996].text 裡面我就把這些
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transcript.whisperx[5997].text 風險分級的地方拉進去
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transcript.whisperx[5998].text 那第二個關於行政院
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transcript.whisperx[5999].text 版還有我的這個
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transcript.whisperx[6002].text 嚴格一點所以這邊我沒有
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transcript.whisperx[6003].text 什麼意見我覺得這邊
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transcript.whisperx[6004].text 我可以認同行政院的
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transcript.whisperx[6005].text 版本那第三個我是
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transcript.whisperx[6008].text 第六項到第九項是
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transcript.whisperx[6012].text 大家可以考慮考慮說
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transcript.whisperx[6013].text 讓業者可以綠色
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transcript.whisperx[6015].text 意講的這樣子的問題
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transcript.whisperx[6017].text 二四小時內就要向地方政府
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transcript.whisperx[6019].text 主動的停售
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transcript.whisperx[6024].text 以後就讓他們這個
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transcript.whisperx[6025].text 這個事業
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transcript.whisperx[6029].text 那就我可以保護他
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transcript.whisperx[6030].text 這樣子好謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[6031].text 請完政序委員
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transcript.whisperx[6032].text 好謝謝主席真的第七條
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transcript.whisperx[6034].text 大家都可以很容易理解
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transcript.whisperx[6035].text 在這個過程裡面大家去注意
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transcript.whisperx[6036].text 的事情那謝謝剛剛
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transcript.whisperx[6037].text 有提到針對在第一項
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transcript.whisperx[6038].text 裡面在把
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transcript.whisperx[6039].text 原本的監測計畫
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transcript.whisperx[6041].text 這邊做一個適當的
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transcript.whisperx[6042].text 處理我覺得是非常重要
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transcript.whisperx[6043].text 有一個專業的簽證
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transcript.whisperx[6045].text 本身要有很好的
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transcript.whisperx[6049].text 這邊還是有兩個問題要請教
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transcript.whisperx[6050].text 我們
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transcript.whisperx[6051].text 這邊第一個就是
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transcript.whisperx[6057].text 了解到食品
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transcript.whisperx[6059].text 而且資本額超過現台幣
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transcript.whisperx[6060].text 三千萬元以上
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transcript.whisperx[6065].text 這是第一點第二點就是
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transcript.whisperx[6066].text 其實我們知道
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transcript.whisperx[6070].text 讓我們知道
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transcript.whisperx[6071].text 有好的這種監測的話
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transcript.whisperx[6072].text 就能夠執行到位
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transcript.whisperx[6076].text 也是很高的話
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transcript.whisperx[6077].text 比如說我們也了解可能
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transcript.whisperx[6078].text 常見的一些食品安全
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transcript.whisperx[6079].text 的部分比如說攤商
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transcript.whisperx[6084].text 如何未來逐步能夠需要去
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transcript.whisperx[6085].text 加強這種需求
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transcript.whisperx[6086].text 這個部分未來的部分
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transcript.whisperx[6087].text 是不是也麻煩
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transcript.whisperx[6088].text 我們這邊也能夠提供一些意見說明以上
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transcript.whisperx[6089].text 好謝謝現在請林淑芬委員
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transcript.whisperx[6090].text 大家好就如同大家講的
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transcript.whisperx[6091].text 這是重中之重就是我們
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transcript.whisperx[6092].text 要求這些食品業者要訂一個
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transcript.whisperx[6094].text 這樣子但是我們
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transcript.whisperx[6095].text 再怎麼改其實基本上都還是
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transcript.whisperx[6103].text 留止的這個個案你
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transcript.whisperx[6104].text 回頭檢視這個這樣的
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transcript.whisperx[6105].text 修正到底足不足夠
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transcript.whisperx[6106].text 我們會看到幾個問題第一個
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transcript.whisperx[6109].text 那你如何避免這個
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transcript.whisperx[6110].text 雖然中央核定過了
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transcript.whisperx[6114].text 核定過的紙上文件
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transcript.whisperx[6115].text 中聯的問題不是
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transcript.whisperx[6118].text 核定完以後他
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transcript.whisperx[6120].text 做的去落實
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transcript.whisperx[6122].text 這一些文件也不是沒審查
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transcript.whisperx[6123].text 而是他
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transcript.whisperx[6125].text 把這個本篇筆納入
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transcript.whisperx[6127].text 更不要把它變成原料的
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transcript.whisperx[6130].text 出貨的放行沒有接起來
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transcript.whisperx[6132].text 已經出問題了
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transcript.whisperx[6133].text 但他還是繼續出貨啊
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transcript.whisperx[6134].text 所以這個就是自主管理
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transcript.whisperx[6135].text 他並不是沒有計畫
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transcript.whisperx[6136].text 也不是計畫沒核定
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transcript.whisperx[6138].text 然後他不會搬石頭砸自己的腳嘛
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transcript.whisperx[6139].text 所以在這種狀況裡面
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transcript.whisperx[6148].text 這個追蹤
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transcript.whisperx[6149].text 老實說啦
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transcript.whisperx[6150].text 真的需要的是他綠啦
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transcript.whisperx[6151].text 他綠啦
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transcript.whisperx[6158].text 那個程度是像是 Guinea
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transcript.whisperx[6159].text 哪個是是業者自行決定
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transcript.whisperx[6160].text 小見真假臉
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transcript.whisperx[6161].text 剛自己頭腦
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transcript.whisperx[6162].text 知道
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transcript.whisperx[6166].text 該
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transcript.whisperx[6167].text 捕捉
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transcript.whisperx[6169].text 就
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transcript.whisperx[6171].text 가요
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transcript.whisperx[6185].text 要怎麼樣才能夠
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transcript.whisperx[6191].text 數據隨時都公開上網
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transcript.whisperx[6192].text 隨時都公開上網
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transcript.whisperx[6194].text 隨時公開給人家大家看
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transcript.whisperx[6197].text 第三方實驗跟自設
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transcript.whisperx[6200].text 結果如何
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transcript.whisperx[6202].text 因為有時候同一批貨
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transcript.whisperx[6205].text 這個都是同一種條件
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transcript.whisperx[6209].text 那封存的範圍要多大
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transcript.whisperx[6217].text 採樣的地點
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transcript.whisperx[6218].text 你看他通通都對勾稽不起來
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transcript.whisperx[6219].text 哪一個統朝哪一個批號
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transcript.whisperx[6220].text 流樣的編號
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transcript.whisperx[6221].text 他通通都虛偽造假
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transcript.whisperx[6222].text HACCP在全國在檢查的時候
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transcript.whisperx[6223].text 通通也都知道他們這些
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transcript.whisperx[6224].text 這些數據記錄都是不齊全
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transcript.whisperx[6225].text 那你送驗的單子委託的人
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transcript.whisperx[6226].text 檢體交接記錄及檢驗方法
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transcript.whisperx[6227].text 這一些通通要要求通報
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transcript.whisperx[6228].text 否則主管機關都最後只收到一個檢驗
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transcript.whisperx[6229].text 第三方的檢驗說
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transcript.whisperx[6230].text 有一個數據超標
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transcript.whisperx[6231].text 就只是這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[6232].text 那沒有辦法判斷
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transcript.whisperx[6233].text 該數值代表哪一批產品
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transcript.whisperx[6234].text 其實整體的追溯追蹤
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transcript.whisperx[6235].text 其實就要落實到這裡來
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transcript.whisperx[6236].text 所以在送到第三方檢驗的時候
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transcript.whisperx[6237].text 要要求業者送第三方檢驗的時候
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transcript.whisperx[6238].text 這些相關背景資料通通一併解覆
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transcript.whisperx[6239].text 通通要附送到第三方檢驗室出問題
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transcript.whisperx[6240].text 那從那裡也勾稽的出來
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transcript.whisperx[6241].text 好 那第四點
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transcript.whisperx[6242].text 發現或知悉24小時通報的起算點
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transcript.whisperx[6243].text 也必須要明確了
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transcript.whisperx[6244].text 業者收到第三方實驗室的一場報告
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transcript.whisperx[6245].text 下游通知的一場
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transcript.whisperx[6246].text 內部平保意掌握的一場趨勢
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transcript.whisperx[6247].text 都應該視為是已知悉的有危害之虞
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transcript.whisperx[6248].text 不應該以等待復驗
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transcript.whisperx[6249].text 我只想講很多遍了
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transcript.whisperx[6250].text 不要說我就等待復驗了
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transcript.whisperx[6251].text 或是召開內部平保會議了
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transcript.whisperx[6252].text 或是尚未判定
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transcript.whisperx[6253].text 為理由延後通報
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transcript.whisperx[6254].text 不可以
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transcript.whisperx[6255].text 他們現在看中領油紙就是
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transcript.whisperx[6256].text 我再復驗一次再來通報
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transcript.whisperx[6257].text 你可以復驗
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transcript.whisperx[6258].text 復驗可以做
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transcript.whisperx[6259].text 但通報停用封存追查流向不能等
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transcript.whisperx[6260].text 你的復驗不能成為延後通報的理由和藉口
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transcript.whisperx[6261].text 這個事情法律上也要講清楚
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transcript.whisperx[6262].text 然後第五點
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transcript.whisperx[6263].text 中央得委任委託核定食品安全監測計畫
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transcript.whisperx[6264].text 但這個食品安全監測計畫
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transcript.whisperx[6266].text 審查的品質和責任歸屬也必須明確
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transcript.whisperx[6267].text 如果只是把審查的量能外包
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transcript.whisperx[6268].text 沒有食指查核的方法
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transcript.whisperx[6269].text 也有可能業者也很容易用漂亮的計畫書
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transcript.whisperx[6270].text 就遮蓋了現場的風險
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transcript.whisperx[6271].text 連審查這個計畫都委託外面了
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transcript.whisperx[6272].text 審完了
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transcript.whisperx[6273].text 但有可能那個紙上作業
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transcript.whisperx[6274].text 跟現場的風險是不一致的
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transcript.whisperx[6275].text 有可能
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transcript.whisperx[6276].text 那我最後一個要講的就是說
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transcript.whisperx[6277].text 海棠這個案例
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transcript.whisperx[6278].text 就第七條第五項是不是要修
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transcript.whisperx[6279].text 就是說我們現在看到的是
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transcript.whisperx[6280].text 好像是說
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transcript.whisperx[6281].text 第五項一、二
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transcript.whisperx[6282].text 食品業者發現或窒息產品原材料
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transcript.whisperx[6283].text 你加一個窒息嘛
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transcript.whisperx[6284].text 原材料搬成品或成品危害
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transcript.whisperx[6286].text 就應該停止製造加工販賣嘛
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transcript.whisperx[6287].text 那因此發現窒息
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transcript.whisperx[6288].text 二、四小時內通報嘛
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transcript.whisperx[6289].text 這樣足夠嗎
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transcript.whisperx[6290].text 這樣就可以了嗎
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transcript.whisperx[6291].text 要不要再更明確的訂定說
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transcript.whisperx[6292].text 食品業者在採購、驗收、委託製作
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transcript.whisperx[6293].text 供應商端、風潮採樣或取貨前檢驗時
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transcript.whisperx[6295].text 搬成品或產品有重大食人意常
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transcript.whisperx[6296].text 即使尚未收獲、尚未入場
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transcript.whisperx[6297].text 也應該於一定期限內通報主管機關
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transcript.whisperx[6298].text 就是說大家在講台糖的
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transcript.whisperx[6299].text 從這個例子去延伸出來的啦
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transcript.whisperx[6300].text 我們要講說
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transcript.whisperx[6301].text 這個不是台糖一個個別公司
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transcript.whisperx[6302].text 掌握了一般商業的資訊
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transcript.whisperx[6303].text 而是中聯這個這麼重大
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transcript.whisperx[6304].text 311號油潮14.7 pp
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transcript.whisperx[6305].text 這個重大的污染資訊
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transcript.whisperx[6306].text 這個是足以影響
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transcript.whisperx[6307].text 整個食用油脂的供應鏈
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transcript.whisperx[6308].text 你不能夠停損在你台糖個別公司啊
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transcript.whisperx[6309].text 你要把它停損在整體社會都不能夠
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transcript.whisperx[6310].text 誰都不可以吃下去
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transcript.whisperx[6311].text 不應該只停在台糖跟供應商之間啦
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transcript.whisperx[6312].text 那這個條款要怎麼放進去
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transcript.whisperx[6313].text 那你們現在的這個
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transcript.whisperx[6314].text 加一個知悉
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transcript.whisperx[6315].text 辦成品或成品或原料
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transcript.whisperx[6316].text 這樣子的字眼足不足夠
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transcript.whisperx[6317].text 我覺得法律上的意見應該要放進來
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transcript.whisperx[6318].text 或者是我剛剛講這個
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transcript.whisperx[6319].text 我們要不要把
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transcript.whisperx[6320].text 把它變成立法說明欄也要寫上去啦
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transcript.whisperx[6321].text 我講很多餒
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transcript.whisperx[6322].text 這樣子大家都聽得清楚嗎
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transcript.whisperx[6323].text 還是應該要印出來
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transcript.whisperx[6324].text 那萬事先要先請林代化委員
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transcript.whisperx[6325].text 那在這邊啊
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transcript.whisperx[6326].text 今天所有行政院的版本
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transcript.whisperx[6327].text 或者是各個黨派的各個立委所提出的版本
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transcript.whisperx[6328].text 其實還是不能解決三個問題
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transcript.whisperx[6329].text 那我在我的修正動議當中
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transcript.whisperx[6330].text 後面我有附上一個我提案的一個評析報告
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transcript.whisperx[6331].text 供大家參考
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transcript.whisperx[6332].text 那在這個修正動議後面的評析報告當中
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transcript.whisperx[6333].text 第一個也就是針對目前大家所有版本
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transcript.whisperx[6334].text 還是不能解決的三個問題
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transcript.whisperx[6335].text 在稽查當中我的紙本跟數據的斷裂
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transcript.whisperx[6336].text 我現在的稽查人員到現場
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transcript.whisperx[6337].text 還是得依賴業者所提供的紙本的競競銷的存帳冊
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transcript.whisperx[6338].text 進貨單與驗收單據進行人工的比對
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transcript.whisperx[6339].text 但是遇到業者隱匿或申報不實的時候
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transcript.whisperx[6340].text 我調閱跟跨廠的比對
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transcript.whisperx[6341].text 我們就必須耗費這個多值
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transcript.whisperx[6342].text 第二個我們現在也是不能去處理
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transcript.whisperx[6343].text 一維條碼的資訊限制
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transcript.whisperx[6344].text 現行的商品普遍使用的一維條碼
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transcript.whisperx[6347].text 其實這在今天到目前為止
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transcript.whisperx[6349].text 那導致食安事件發生的時候
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transcript.whisperx[6351].text 第三個目前所有的版本也不能解決
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transcript.whisperx[6353].text 由於傳統稽查無法精準的定位問題
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transcript.whisperx[6355].text 衛生機關常迫於社會的壓力
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transcript.whisperx[6357].text 所以造成合規的廠商嚴重的損失
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transcript.whisperx[6359].text 好 我這邊倡議的是
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transcript.whisperx[6360].text 也就在我修法當中
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transcript.whisperx[6361].text 希望能夠導入我們的QR Code
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transcript.whisperx[6362].text 而且是GS1這樣的一個QR Code的全球組織
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transcript.whisperx[6369].text 現在導入的2027三維條碼
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transcript.whisperx[6370].text 能夠解決你的物源端
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transcript.whisperx[6371].text 你的生產 你所有的進口的物料的批號
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transcript.whisperx[6372].text 從物料
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transcript.whisperx[6373].text 包括我的這個
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transcript.whisperx[6374].text 這個進來的生產 加工 物流 銷售跟回收
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transcript.whisperx[6375].text 全部
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transcript.whisperx[6378].text 我們目前只有13項
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transcript.whisperx[6396].text 它導入 它一樣有4000多個的欄位
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transcript.whisperx[6475].text 我寫到的是能夠在第一項
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transcript.whisperx[6476].text 再增加連鎖超級市場便利商店及量販店等
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transcript.whisperx[6477].text 零售通路業者及連鎖餐飲業者
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transcript.whisperx[6478].text 其自主管理應包含建立收銀終端
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transcript.whisperx[6479].text 中端知識品安全自動主角與警示機制
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transcript.whisperx[6480].text 那在我後續當然等一下大家會各自發言
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transcript.whisperx[6481].text 就是在第二十二條當中
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transcript.whisperx[6482].text 增加了第一項當中的第十款
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transcript.whisperx[6483].text 符合規定之條碼
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transcript.whisperx[6484].text 以及第十項其他經中央主管機關公告
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transcript.whisperx[6485].text 以及他在下面的
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transcript.whisperx[6486].text 一些我增加的一個條文
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transcript.whisperx[6487].text 以及對應的就是在第五十六條之一當中
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transcript.whisperx[6488].text 如果我們照這樣如果可以導入
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transcript.whisperx[6489].text 政府可以導入這樣的一個機制之後
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transcript.whisperx[6490].text 那業者我們就要要求他也做產業的升級
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transcript.whisperx[6493].text 的主要要求的項目強制要求的項目
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transcript.whisperx[6494].text 等等他都必須做產業的提升
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transcript.whisperx[6498].text 所以這也是在我第五十六條之一當中
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transcript.whisperx[6499].text 也導入了補助業者為促進食品安全之數位轉型費用的一個導入
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transcript.whisperx[6500].text 尤其是最末端的銷售端的一個Post系統的一個提升
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transcript.whisperx[6501].text 所以這是整體上跟各位先進做報告
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transcript.whisperx[6502].text 那也能夠請大家不吝指導
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transcript.whisperx[6503].text 那針對還有一個如果說這個導入之後
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transcript.whisperx[6505].text 好那我們國家有做Summary
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transcript.whisperx[6506].text 美國他有做的話
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transcript.whisperx[6507].text 那我從東南亞進口的沒做
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transcript.whisperx[6509].text 做這種國際標準的這個物聯網的QR Code的話
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transcript.whisperx[6510].text 二維碼的QR Code
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transcript.whisperx[6511].text 那我的抽驗比例我可以可能一百件我就抽一次
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transcript.whisperx[6512].text 就抽一批
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transcript.whisperx[6513].text 那如果是沒有對接的
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transcript.whisperx[6514].text 在這個過渡期間沒有對接的
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transcript.whisperx[6517].text 我可能就25批我就抽一次
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transcript.whisperx[6518].text 提高抽驗比例
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transcript.whisperx[6519].text 這個是在過渡期當中
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transcript.whisperx[6523].text 我們應該怎麼的來做處理
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transcript.whisperx[6524].text 好以上謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[6525].text 好謝謝林大華委員
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transcript.whisperx[6526].text 現在請李瑞前周委
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transcript.whisperx[6527].text 這一條應該是這次試驗發生後
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transcript.whisperx[6529].text 甚至流入到市面我們才來做通報
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transcript.whisperx[6530].text 可是我要問的我們的行政部門
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transcript.whisperx[6531].text 過去甚至這是中原
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transcript.whisperx[6533].text 你們去回過頭來去看
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transcript.whisperx[6534].text 因為過去法條本來就有寫說
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transcript.whisperx[6536].text 計劃
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transcript.whisperx[6537].text 那他有沒有符合
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transcript.whisperx[6538].text 否則我也想了解說
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transcript.whisperx[6539].text 為什麼這次要加說
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transcript.whisperx[6540].text 等會一定類別跟規模者
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transcript.whisperx[6541].text 一直是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[6542].text 可是回過頭來看
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transcript.whisperx[6543].text 你要中央再找第三方去核定
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transcript.whisperx[6544].text 那只上談兵
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transcript.whisperx[6545].text 因為過去我自己在
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transcript.whisperx[6546].text 在COVID-19的時候我們的確在評地方政府
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transcript.whisperx[6548].text 那
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transcript.whisperx[6549].text 挑了幾個先是覺得可以要看的去看
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transcript.whisperx[6550].text 只上談兵的時候講的那個東西都非常的美好
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transcript.whisperx[6551].text 可到現場的時候完全不是這麼回事
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transcript.whisperx[6552].text 那我也擔心說今天如果說今天
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transcript.whisperx[6553].text 真的這條法條過的時候
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transcript.whisperx[6554].text 行政部門要這樣執行
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transcript.whisperx[6555].text 會不會變成如果出事的話
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transcript.whisperx[6556].text 就說這個經誰核過的
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transcript.whisperx[6557].text 核過我們好像就掛波金就認可了
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transcript.whisperx[6558].text 認可之後到時候是不是又講說
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transcript.whisperx[6560].text 所以我剛問的就是說
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transcript.whisperx[6561].text 到底這次中聯有他過去寫的食品安全監測計畫
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transcript.whisperx[6562].text 這個計畫
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transcript.whisperx[6563].text 回顧團你去看這計畫完備嗎
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transcript.whisperx[6564].text 是真的是計畫寫得不完備
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transcript.whisperx[6565].text 然後
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transcript.whisperx[6566].text 後邊出了問題嗎
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transcript.whisperx[6568].text 那是執行面的問題
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transcript.whisperx[6569].text 所以我很擔心這種只上談兵
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transcript.whisperx[6570].text 好像看起來完備的去
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transcript.whisperx[6571].text 有一個防堵的程序可是一樣
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transcript.whisperx[6572].text 那個不管是哪個法人或哪個團體
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transcript.whisperx[6573].text 去認可這個計畫
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transcript.whisperx[6574].text 是不是他也要去背負這個壓力是說
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transcript.whisperx[6576].text 沒有看現場
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transcript.whisperx[6577].text 那得到結果應該會是不一樣
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transcript.whisperx[6579].text 行政部門當初要這樣子再加這個
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transcript.whisperx[6580].text 如果他這樣子真的是上是
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transcript.whisperx[6581].text 寫得更仔細
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transcript.whisperx[6582].text 談得更詳細甚至有去看現場說
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transcript.whisperx[6584].text 但我們沒有意見可是如果不是的話
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transcript.whisperx[6585].text 又是交書面的報告我認為沒有多大的意義
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transcript.whisperx[6586].text 以上
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transcript.whisperx[6587].text 好謝謝現在請邱惠入委員
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transcript.whisperx[6588].text 好謝謝主席好那
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transcript.whisperx[6589].text 我針對台灣民眾黨提案修法的內容來進行說明
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transcript.whisperx[6590].text 那第七條第一項
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transcript.whisperx[6591].text 就是食品業者他當然要制定食品安全監測計畫
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transcript.whisperx[6593].text 衛福部他請專家進行的這個調查
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transcript.whisperx[6595].text 再來是製程的問題再來是品管的問題
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transcript.whisperx[6599].text 把這樣的概念放進去
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transcript.whisperx[6602].text 那個產品送交機構
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transcript.whisperx[6603].text 或者是實驗室
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transcript.whisperx[6604].text 那因為送交實驗室的食品業者是一些比較大規模的
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transcript.whisperx[6605].text 例如說上市上櫃或者是
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transcript.whisperx[6606].text 金中央主管機關公告類別或規模的食品業者
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transcript.whisperx[6609].text 連累到的消費者會比較多
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transcript.whisperx[6610].text 所以我們在第四項就是增定
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transcript.whisperx[6611].text 如果是透過如果是比較大規模的
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transcript.whisperx[6615].text 那如果關於這第三方機構的這些條件資格
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transcript.whisperx[6617].text 以法規命令訂制
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transcript.whisperx[6618].text 那如果今天是屬於比較高風險的食品可能
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transcript.whisperx[6621].text 那除此之外關於通報義務
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transcript.whisperx[6622].text 不管是食品業者的通報義務或者是機構
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transcript.whisperx[6624].text 這個行政院這邊好像都已經做了一個相關的規範這樣
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transcript.whisperx[6626].text 這些原料的樣本採樣的樣本其實有造假的問題
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transcript.whisperx[6629].text 應該是不得吧就是不能夠造假
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transcript.whisperx[6630].text 那當然造假就會有相對應的責任
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transcript.whisperx[6631].text 以上說明謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[6632].text 現在請臨代化委員
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transcript.whisperx[6633].text 我補充說明我針對這個二維碼Summarize 2027的導入
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transcript.whisperx[6634].text 這已經是在本委員會我是算是第三次第三次的倡議
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transcript.whisperx[6635].text 第一次在經濟委員會第二次在財政委約
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transcript.whisperx[6636].text 第三次就是在我們這個衛環委員會
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transcript.whisperx[6637].text 那所以呢我可以很確認的就是經濟部呢
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transcript.whisperx[6638].text 在我質詢之後他們的標檢局已經主動的
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transcript.whisperx[6639].text 跟GS1這個國際組織已經對接了
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transcript.whisperx[6640].text 所以在國際上二維條碼在政府的部門是已經是
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transcript.whisperx[6641].text 是有對接上的那現在只是產業運用
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transcript.whisperx[6642].text 所以當我的這個目前是針對我們大眾物資的進口來做的話
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transcript.whisperx[6643].text 這個是可以是可以是第一項
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transcript.whisperx[6644].text 未來都可以擴及到任何的產品針對藥品的進口都可以
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transcript.whisperx[6645].text 甚至我在工業鏈當中我們進口我們進口國外的工業產品
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transcript.whisperx[6646].text 或者是我們出口國外到我們零儲件出口到國外
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transcript.whisperx[6647].text 其實都是可以的好
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transcript.whisperx[6649].text 也先做好這個一個國際標準的已經都對接上了好謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[6650].text 好謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[6651].text 這邊我也要補充說明一下因為剛第六項其實我自己的版本
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transcript.whisperx[6652].text 裡面還有提到除了停止製造夾攻
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transcript.whisperx[6655].text 不然他如果已經在配送中了我們還是必須要把它終止
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transcript.whisperx[6656].text 所以這些細節的改動再請小署可以參考討論一下謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[6657].text 好那請行政機關回應
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transcript.whisperx[6658].text 謝謝各位語言非常精闢以及多面向的說明
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transcript.whisperx[6659].text 首先針對陳金輝陳委員特別提到第六項的食品業者自入檢驗
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transcript.whisperx[6661].text 特別提到綠色通報那並同步主動停止販售
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transcript.whisperx[6662].text 主管機關接獲通報後因一第四十二條第二之二第二項辦理敷驗及後續的處置
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transcript.whisperx[6663].text 因為在檢驗的結果我們其實目前取得的是
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transcript.whisperx[6666].text 沒有判斷的
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transcript.whisperx[6667].text 去預判斷的基準
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transcript.whisperx[6668].text 反而是直接上來之後進一步的後續的確認
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transcript.whisperx[6674].text 只能夠進行進行處置
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transcript.whisperx[6676].text 第二個部分是針對林淑芬委員這邊
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transcript.whisperx[6678].text 我們這邊其實在第一項裡面經專業簽證後
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transcript.whisperx[6679].text 這邊提到的簽證之後
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transcript.whisperx[6680].text 我們希望能夠達到的效果是原先的HACCP
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transcript.whisperx[6699].text 進一步提到的是對於隨時對接上網
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transcript.whisperx[6702].text 資訊是要怎麼樣子的揭露的部分
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transcript.whisperx[6713].text 的確我們對於這個自主的採樣的部分
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transcript.whisperx[6719].text 這是我們去了解的
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transcript.whisperx[6720].text 希望能夠做到的
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transcript.whisperx[6729].text 以減少人員上面的錯誤
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transcript.whisperx[6730].text 那對於王委員特別提到
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transcript.whisperx[6747].text 提到從七條九條二十二條五十六
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transcript.whisperx[6754].text 修法就一併說明
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transcript.whisperx[6756].text 本署的實案基金只有一點點而已
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transcript.whisperx[6770].text 提到至少兩家以上第三方認證的
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transcript.whisperx[6780].text 不是很確定我們的開發的方法
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transcript.whisperx[6781].text 其實是在署內對於全國的認證單位
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transcript.whisperx[6782].text 都予以提供
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transcript.whisperx[6793].text 而達到安全的維護
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transcript.whisperx[6797].text 回應一下
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transcript.whisperx[6798].text 副所長也在嗎
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transcript.whisperx[6799].text 剛才那個林黛樺委員提到的那個
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transcript.whisperx[6800].text 我們Sunrise那一塊標準局那一邊
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transcript.whisperx[6801].text 大概已經有做一個輔導
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transcript.whisperx[6803].text 如果後續衛福部確認要做推廣的話
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transcript.whisperx[6805].text 這一個經濟部這邊
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transcript.whisperx[6806].text 可以提供相關的補助資源
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transcript.whisperx[6807].text 來做一個加劫
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transcript.whisperx[6809].text 其實是所有你全部都
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transcript.whisperx[6811].text 你全部都可以導入
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transcript.whisperx[6812].text 叫做主要主動欄位
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transcript.whisperx[6819].text 而且就是務業長隨時
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transcript.whisperx[6820].text 24小時365天
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transcript.whisperx[6821].text 你分分秒秒全部都看得到
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transcript.whisperx[6822].text 那包括就是說
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transcript.whisperx[6825].text 採樣的項目頻率
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transcript.whisperx[6826].text 甚至一些人員的要求
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transcript.whisperx[6827].text 其實通通都可以在這個欄位
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transcript.whisperx[6829].text 那重點是這些要求是在產品
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transcript.whisperx[6830].text 包括你最前端的批號
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transcript.whisperx[6831].text 我們現在大家說是配合批號
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transcript.whisperx[6832].text 都對不起來
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transcript.whisperx[6833].text 那連你從國外進口是哪個批號
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transcript.whisperx[6835].text 重點是我這個出來之後的QR Code
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transcript.whisperx[6836].text 是不能事後貼的
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transcript.whisperx[6838].text 直接就是他會有一個生產
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transcript.whisperx[6839].text 一個製程就是在線上烙印
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transcript.whisperx[6841].text 你用雷射烙印也好
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transcript.whisperx[6844].text 他的樣態是整個產品的整循環
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transcript.whisperx[6845].text 從物料、製造、加工、運輸、銷售
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transcript.whisperx[6846].text 包括回收
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transcript.whisperx[6847].text 連回收系統環保署的部分
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transcript.whisperx[6848].text 連回收系統我都可以整個監控
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transcript.whisperx[6849].text 好 以上再次說明 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[6850].text 老實說因為大家講很多
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transcript.whisperx[6851].text 署長的回應其實就是
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transcript.whisperx[6852].text 就大概是這樣約略的談
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transcript.whisperx[6853].text 但是基本上在我們的法條
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transcript.whisperx[6854].text 你要落實到法條的文字內容
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transcript.whisperx[6855].text 要怎麼整合進來
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transcript.whisperx[6856].text 我覺得有一點困難
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transcript.whisperx[6857].text 講這樣一個抽象的概念
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transcript.whisperx[6859].text 然後大家你要變成法條的文字
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transcript.whisperx[6860].text 有一段距離
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transcript.whisperx[6861].text 但是我要再講一次
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transcript.whisperx[6862].text 部長還有署長
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transcript.whisperx[6863].text 我跟大家再分享就是說
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transcript.whisperx[6864].text 基本上這個還是一個
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transcript.whisperx[6865].text 業者自主管理的架構
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transcript.whisperx[6866].text 基本上就是這個架構都沒有改變
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transcript.whisperx[6867].text 而我就經常說
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transcript.whisperx[6868].text 業者自主管理真的是
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transcript.whisperx[6869].text 你要在
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transcript.whisperx[6870].text 特定的非常高風險
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transcript.whisperx[6871].text 那裡面你不能這樣子做
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transcript.whisperx[6872].text 一般的風險相對沒那麼高
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transcript.whisperx[6873].text 沒有那麼上游的
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transcript.whisperx[6874].text 你在整個實名加工產業的
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transcript.whisperx[6875].text 最上游的風險很高的
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transcript.whisperx[6876].text 屢屢發生的
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transcript.whisperx[6877].text 絕對不能夠這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[6878].text 可是我們知道
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transcript.whisperx[6879].text 衛福部負責中央
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transcript.whisperx[6880].text 然後統籌管理這個各地方
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transcript.whisperx[6881].text 可是地方也是要地方去執行
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transcript.whisperx[6882].text 土法不足以自行
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transcript.whisperx[6883].text 最後一定是執行的人力
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transcript.whisperx[6884].text 要去看到底有沒有做
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transcript.whisperx[6885].text 可是地方事實上也做不來
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transcript.whisperx[6886].text 老實說也做不來
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transcript.whisperx[6887].text 那我才會剛剛一直在講說
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transcript.whisperx[6889].text 因為不管是第七條
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transcript.whisperx[6890].text 你的這個所謂的FSMP
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transcript.whisperx[6891].text 這個叫什麼
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transcript.whisperx[6892].text 安全監測計畫
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transcript.whisperx[6893].text 食品安全監測計畫
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transcript.whisperx[6894].text 或者是第八條的HACCP
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transcript.whisperx[6895].text 你都是一樣
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transcript.whisperx[6896].text 這計畫寫得再怎麼好聽
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transcript.whisperx[6897].text 都紙上作業流域紙上文章
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transcript.whisperx[6898].text 跟你實際生產是脫鉤的
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transcript.whisperx[6899].text 沒用
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transcript.whisperx[6900].text 那政府要經常下去監測
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transcript.whisperx[6901].text 隨時每天去看
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transcript.whisperx[6902].text 沒可能
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transcript.whisperx[6903].text 那要怎麼做
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transcript.whisperx[6904].text 所以我才會想說
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transcript.whisperx[6905].text 其實我們就很簡單
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transcript.whisperx[6906].text 因為新時代大數據
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transcript.whisperx[6907].text 就是這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[6908].text 你就直接
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transcript.whisperx[6909].text 資訊公開
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transcript.whisperx[6910].text 自主公開
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transcript.whisperx[6911].text 你的CCP點設置什麼
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transcript.whisperx[6912].text 通通公開給大家看
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transcript.whisperx[6913].text 我不是叫你所有產業都要這樣
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transcript.whisperx[6914].text 每一個不分級距
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transcript.whisperx[6915].text 然後不分風險通通這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[6916].text 不是
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transcript.whisperx[6917].text 要特定的
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transcript.whisperx[6918].text 最上游的風險高的
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transcript.whisperx[6920].text 法律的責任
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transcript.whisperx[6921].text 而屢屢連法律責任都無法遵守了
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transcript.whisperx[6922].text 怎麼可能
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transcript.whisperx[6923].text 還期待他
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transcript.whisperx[6924].text 還有什麼社會道德
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transcript.whisperx[6925].text 不可能
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transcript.whisperx[6926].text 所以大家如果各黨派都有共識
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transcript.whisperx[6927].text 全民有共識
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transcript.whisperx[6928].text 我們就是要求
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transcript.whisperx[6929].text 你在最上游屢屢出現問題的
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transcript.whisperx[6930].text 你就是要被高度的監管
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transcript.whisperx[6932].text 我們沒有那個開來
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transcript.whisperx[6933].text 也沒有那個人跟錢
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transcript.whisperx[6934].text 大家在看
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transcript.whisperx[6935].text 所以你全部都給我揭開揭露
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transcript.whisperx[6936].text 上網公開上網揭露
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transcript.whisperx[6937].text 大家全民來看
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transcript.whisperx[6938].text 你要造假就給我們抓到
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transcript.whisperx[6939].text 所以你再不管是從
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transcript.whisperx[6940].text CCP點的設定
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transcript.whisperx[6941].text 你說叫簽證的人去
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transcript.whisperx[6942].text 有技師
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transcript.whisperx[6943].text 然後去符合資格
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transcript.whisperx[6944].text 去簽證
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transcript.whisperx[6945].text 簽證又怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[6946].text 簽證
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transcript.whisperx[6947].text 就像你這個車子
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transcript.whisperx[6948].text 車子經過車車中心說合格
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transcript.whisperx[6949].text 他送去檢驗了當然合格
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transcript.whisperx[6950].text 可是後市場監測
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transcript.whisperx[6951].text 他在賣的人
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transcript.whisperx[6953].text 你知不知道啦問號啦
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transcript.whisperx[6954].text 他設定了管制聯合的
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transcript.whisperx[6955].text 很好簽證合格
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transcript.whisperx[6956].text 他真的這樣生產
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transcript.whisperx[6957].text 有沒有合格
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transcript.whisperx[6958].text 沒有啦
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transcript.whisperx[6959].text 這樣子你就全部都揭露
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transcript.whisperx[6960].text 上網公開揭露
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transcript.whisperx[6961].text 你說可是他的採樣的時候
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transcript.whisperx[6962].text 當然檢驗數據如果偽陽性怎麼辦
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transcript.whisperx[6963].text 我們來看怎麼處理
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transcript.whisperx[6964].text 還想辦法
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transcript.whisperx[6965].text 在這種狀況裡面
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transcript.whisperx[6966].text 揭露
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transcript.whisperx[6967].text 然後讓大家看
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transcript.whisperx[6968].text 所以相對
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transcript.whisperx[6969].text 相對應
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transcript.whisperx[6970].text 因為政府部門沒錢沒人
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transcript.whisperx[6971].text 相對於廠商
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transcript.whisperx[6972].text 自主管理不可靠
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transcript.whisperx[6973].text 我們只能這樣做
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transcript.whisperx[6974].text 我要舉一個是環境部的故事
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transcript.whisperx[6975].text 環境部有沒有這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[6976].text 有嗎他對比如說
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transcript.whisperx[6977].text 24小時連續監測的
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transcript.whisperx[6978].text 水汙染的
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transcript.whisperx[6979].text 空氣汙染的
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transcript.whisperx[6980].text 那個叫SIMS監測系統
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transcript.whisperx[6981].text SIMS
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transcript.whisperx[6982].text 不管是水汙空汙
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transcript.whisperx[6983].text 24小時汙染監測
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transcript.whisperx[6984].text 隨時監測數據
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transcript.whisperx[6985].text 通通都要隨時公開上網
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transcript.whisperx[6986].text 然後呢
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transcript.whisperx[6987].text 然後當然有發現台塑
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transcript.whisperx[6988].text 賣寮台塑有造假
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transcript.whisperx[6989].text 他們還會造假
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transcript.whisperx[6990].text 也被我們抓過
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transcript.whisperx[6991].text 造假被抓過
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transcript.whisperx[6992].text 所以就是
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transcript.whisperx[6993].text 至少
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transcript.whisperx[6994].text 至少大家看到你設設這個管制點合不合理
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transcript.whisperx[6995].text 至少他們內部的吹哨者
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transcript.whisperx[6996].text 也會看到說
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transcript.whisperx[6997].text 欸我們公司跟大家說是這樣
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transcript.whisperx[6998].text 其實不是這樣
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transcript.whisperx[6999].text 資訊公開透明
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transcript.whisperx[7000].text 相對大家來監督
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transcript.whisperx[7001].text 真的可以保護社會大眾
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transcript.whisperx[7002].text 會比較周全
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transcript.whisperx[7003].text 所以你在這裡說
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transcript.whisperx[7004].text 不管是說
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transcript.whisperx[7005].text 要簽證制度啦
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transcript.whisperx[7006].text 要制定計畫啦
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transcript.whisperx[7007].text 或者是要通報啦
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transcript.whisperx[7008].text 知識以後通報啦
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transcript.whisperx[7009].text 其實都要搭配配套啦
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transcript.whisperx[7010].text 這個東西
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transcript.whisperx[7011].text 要怎麼訂
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transcript.whisperx[7012].text 老實說我也是
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transcript.whisperx[7013].text 還不是很清楚
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transcript.whisperx[7014].text 現在看到行政院的版本
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transcript.whisperx[7015].text 我認為可能是
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transcript.whisperx[7016].text 還是不夠的
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transcript.whisperx[7017].text 但其他的黨團的版本
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transcript.whisperx[7018].text 也不是我們講的那麼的
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transcript.whisperx[7019].text 周全的
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transcript.whisperx[7020].text 我覺得我們必須要先有共識啦
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transcript.whisperx[7021].text 能不能有共識
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transcript.whisperx[7022].text 請大家來表示就是說
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transcript.whisperx[7023].text 我們現在第一個共識
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transcript.whisperx[7024].text 要把由廠商自主管理的
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transcript.whisperx[7025].text 那一個架構
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transcript.whisperx[7026].text 要導證到
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transcript.whisperx[7027].text 不能任由他們全部都給他們自主管理
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transcript.whisperx[7028].text 簽證了就好了
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transcript.whisperx[7029].text 通過審核通過了就好了
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transcript.whisperx[7030].text 不行啦
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transcript.whisperx[7031].text 好,先請王毓民委員
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transcript.whisperx[7032].text 接下來再請林戴化委員
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transcript.whisperx[7033].text 好,這個第七條
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transcript.whisperx[7034].text 其實是這一次修法裡面
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transcript.whisperx[7035].text 也很關鍵的喔
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transcript.whisperx[7036].text 就是怎麼樣從源頭這邊
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transcript.whisperx[7037].text 然後還有過程喔
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transcript.whisperx[7038].text 就是逐批的很嚴格的
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transcript.whisperx[7039].text 來查驗喔
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transcript.whisperx[7040].text 那因為從這一次中年有事件喔
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transcript.whisperx[7041].text 你可以看到業者
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transcript.whisperx[7042].text 他之前他其實
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transcript.whisperx[7043].text 應該也是有訂計畫的吧
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transcript.whisperx[7044].text 這麼大的由廠一定有嘛
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transcript.whisperx[7045].text 對啊,他們的HACCP
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transcript.whisperx[7046].text 但是呢,當他把
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transcript.whisperx[7047].text 黃豆的熱水
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transcript.whisperx[7048].text 淨料的管制標準
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transcript.whisperx[7049].text 從0.5%放寬到5%
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transcript.whisperx[7050].text 請問他要在哪一個環節
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transcript.whisperx[7051].text 我們會知道
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transcript.whisperx[7052].text 就是
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transcript.whisperx[7053].text 對啊,這就是重點
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transcript.whisperx[7054].text 所以我覺得那個就是重點喔
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transcript.whisperx[7055].text 就是說從這一次
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transcript.whisperx[7056].text 因為這一次的
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transcript.whisperx[7057].text 的確是非常重大的事件
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transcript.whisperx[7058].text 因為他是最上游的
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transcript.whisperx[7059].text 游,每一個人都用得到
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transcript.whisperx[7060].text 這次波及到的食品
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transcript.whisperx[7061].text 很多通通都中了
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transcript.whisperx[7062].text 那像這種高風險的
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transcript.whisperx[7063].text 他又是最源頭的
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transcript.whisperx[7064].text 又是大中流通
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transcript.whisperx[7065].text 影響很大的食品
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transcript.whisperx[7066].text 我的主張也是
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transcript.whisperx[7067].text 應該要有更嚴格的
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transcript.whisperx[7068].text 管制標準
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transcript.whisperx[7069].text 他連偽造文書都做了
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transcript.whisperx[7070].text 對,所以就是要從造文書都做了
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transcript.whisperx[7071].text 我們的修法應該就是
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transcript.whisperx[7072].text 從中年事件
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transcript.whisperx[7073].text 我們要問一個問題
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transcript.whisperx[7074].text 我們今天第七條
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transcript.whisperx[7075].text 如果按照行政院的版本通過
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transcript.whisperx[7076].text 請問中年有品事件
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transcript.whisperx[7077].text 如果廠商自以望為
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transcript.whisperx[7078].text 又再來一次偽造文書掩蓋
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transcript.whisperx[7079].text 然後源頭
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transcript.whisperx[7080].text 我們要問的是
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transcript.whisperx[7081].text 待會我也不回答
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transcript.whisperx[7082].text 我們這樣的修法可不可以阻卻
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transcript.whisperx[7083].text 這樣的事件再發生
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transcript.whisperx[7084].text 如果沒有辦法的話
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transcript.whisperx[7085].text 那這樣的修法有修跟沒修
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transcript.whisperx[7086].text 不會差太多
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transcript.whisperx[7087].text 那我們就應該既然要修法了
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transcript.whisperx[7088].text 就要想一套
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transcript.whisperx[7089].text 是可以解決這樣子事情的
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transcript.whisperx[7090].text 從源頭
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transcript.whisperx[7091].text 真真切切管理了
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transcript.whisperx[7092].text 這樣一個事情
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transcript.whisperx[7093].text 所以光是行政院他現行的版本
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transcript.whisperx[7094].text 會覺得不足以阻卻
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transcript.whisperx[7095].text 這樣子的一個違法事件再發生
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transcript.whisperx[7096].text 那我想各委員都有提不同的版本
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transcript.whisperx[7097].text 我還提出了七之一條
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transcript.whisperx[7098].text 我的用意也是
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transcript.whisperx[7099].text 我們可不可以用一種更高強度
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transcript.whisperx[7100].text 像這個豆子
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transcript.whisperx[7101].text 竹船竹坯
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transcript.whisperx[7102].text 的檢驗,就是從源頭
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transcript.whisperx[7103].text 你就應該是要很切實的
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transcript.whisperx[7104].text 就是做到這一點
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transcript.whisperx[7105].text 然後進到這個產製的
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transcript.whisperx[7106].text 流程之後
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transcript.whisperx[7107].text 就是可不可以有一個高密度的監管
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transcript.whisperx[7108].text 或者是
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transcript.whisperx[7109].text 要求業者該如何的揭露
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transcript.whisperx[7110].text 就是他們每一個製程你都硬要填報表
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transcript.whisperx[7111].text 然後可供檢視
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transcript.whisperx[7112].text 然後再加上第三方的這個驗證
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transcript.whisperx[7113].text 然後再加上
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transcript.whisperx[7114].text 如果政府可以不定期的
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transcript.whisperx[7115].text 我覺得定期送驗
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transcript.whisperx[7116].text 是防君子
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transcript.whisperx[7117].text 不定期的抽驗
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transcript.whisperx[7118].text 才是可以防小人
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transcript.whisperx[7119].text 就是說還要賦予主管機關
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transcript.whisperx[7120].text 可以不定期的
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transcript.whisperx[7121].text 不預警的
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transcript.whisperx[7122].text 就去突襲檢查
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transcript.whisperx[7123].text 這個是可以彼此去比對說你到底有沒有
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transcript.whisperx[7124].text 那因為
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transcript.whisperx[7125].text 重大的高風險的食品
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transcript.whisperx[7126].text 坦白講
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transcript.whisperx[7127].text 最上游的,採取最嚴密的
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transcript.whisperx[7128].text 這個管制
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transcript.whisperx[7129].text 不會有那麼多家
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transcript.whisperx[7130].text 以油品來講
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transcript.whisperx[7131].text 這一次我們看
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transcript.whisperx[7132].text 製作這個大豆沙拉油的
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transcript.whisperx[7133].text 總共加起來三家吧
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transcript.whisperx[7134].text 中聯
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transcript.whisperx[7135].text 還有
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transcript.whisperx[7136].text 總共也就四家
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transcript.whisperx[7137].text 大平義啦,中聯油脂啦
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transcript.whisperx[7138].text 台湯啦
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transcript.whisperx[7139].text 越大中的,越上游的
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transcript.whisperx[7140].text 越少家
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transcript.whisperx[7141].text 但是針對這種類型的
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transcript.whisperx[7142].text 事實上政府採取最高密度
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transcript.whisperx[7143].text 最嚴謹的一個監督方式
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transcript.whisperx[7144].text 用他律來取代自律
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transcript.whisperx[7145].text 我非常的贊成
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transcript.whisperx[7146].text 因為你把這邊管好了
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transcript.whisperx[7147].text 你不用在後市場
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transcript.whisperx[7148].text 要地方政府一直抽一直抽
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transcript.whisperx[7149].text 一直抽一直抽,那個沒有什麼意思
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transcript.whisperx[7150].text 但你真的上游,你可以透過公權力
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transcript.whisperx[7151].text 透過他律的手段
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transcript.whisperx[7152].text 管好之後,下游不會有問題啊
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transcript.whisperx[7153].text 我們現在不吃,我們就倒過來
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transcript.whisperx[7154].text 拼命地方政府在後市場
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transcript.whisperx[7155].text 一直抽菸,一直抽菸
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transcript.whisperx[7156].text 結果上游這麼鬆,然後進口沒有人
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transcript.whisperx[7157].text 門關,他從原料就開始出包
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transcript.whisperx[7158].text 不會有人知道
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transcript.whisperx[7159].text 那這個才是真正的問題
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transcript.whisperx[7160].text 所以我是很贊成
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transcript.whisperx[7161].text 風險,而且大量流通
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transcript.whisperx[7162].text 它是屬於大宗原料物品的
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transcript.whisperx[7163].text 就該以他律
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transcript.whisperx[7164].text 取代自律
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transcript.whisperx[7165].text 自律已經不管用了,而且這邊管好
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transcript.whisperx[7166].text 真的,食藥署你們就省掉很多
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transcript.whisperx[7167].text 食安的事件
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transcript.whisperx[7168].text 我的意見是這樣,所以大家都有共識嘛
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transcript.whisperx[7169].text 就是應該要高強度的他律
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transcript.whisperx[7170].text 然後怎麼個他律,問題是
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transcript.whisperx[7171].text 怎麼個他律法,所以我們才說
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transcript.whisperx[7172].text 你要逐批驗也可以,可是
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transcript.whisperx[7173].text 驗出來檢疫結果,通通都
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transcript.whisperx[7174].text 公開上網,全部都公開上網
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transcript.whisperx[7175].text 公開上網,大家一起看
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transcript.whisperx[7176].text 然後再加強政府,加強抽菸
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transcript.whisperx[7177].text 就是這樣子,他律
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transcript.whisperx[7178].text 你不要怪別人,你要怪你們自己
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transcript.whisperx[7179].text 就是這樣子,不得信任
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transcript.whisperx[7180].text 好,我呼籲
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transcript.whisperx[7181].text 林書芬林委員跟王宇
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transcript.whisperx[7182].text 王委員
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transcript.whisperx[7183].text 就是說
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transcript.whisperx[7184].text 回到我倡議的這個制度
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transcript.whisperx[7185].end 25113.9
transcript.whisperx[7185].text 就完全可以解決大家的問題
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transcript.whisperx[7186].text 就是這個二維條碼
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transcript.whisperx[7187].text 就是從你在
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transcript.whisperx[7188].text 導入批號的時候
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transcript.whisperx[7189].text 哪一批你是進口
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transcript.whisperx[7190].text 什麼樣的大眾物資
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transcript.whisperx[7191].text 你全部通通都掌控好了
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transcript.whisperx[7192].text 以及把自律公共化
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transcript.whisperx[7193].text 我們要求他
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transcript.whisperx[7194].text 自律自主檢驗
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transcript.whisperx[7195].text 我現在講的這個summarize二維條碼
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transcript.whisperx[7196].text 2027的這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[7197].text 就是要求業者
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transcript.whisperx[7198].text 自主檢驗
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transcript.whisperx[7199].text 公共化
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transcript.whisperx[7200].text 所以24小時
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transcript.whisperx[7201].text 365天,分分
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transcript.whisperx[7202].text 秒秒,我同所有的
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transcript.whisperx[7203].text 我們政府要求的
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transcript.whisperx[7204].text 數據
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transcript.whisperx[7205].text 項目
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transcript.whisperx[7206].text 全部都得在這個二維條碼當中
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transcript.whisperx[7207].text 載入
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transcript.whisperx[7208].text 而業者,我也認同
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transcript.whisperx[7209].text 針對這些
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transcript.whisperx[7210].text 大眾物資的
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transcript.whisperx[7211].text 這些所有的業者
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transcript.whisperx[7212].text 政府也不強制
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transcript.whisperx[7213].text 要求導入這樣的一個
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transcript.whisperx[7214].text 二維條碼的一個導入
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transcript.whisperx[7215].text 這些也都不需要
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transcript.whisperx[7216].text 政府出錢
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transcript.whisperx[7217].text 技術上也很簡單
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transcript.whisperx[7218].text 就是導入這個而已
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transcript.whisperx[7219].text 而且經濟部也做好了
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transcript.whisperx[7220].text 事先這種的一個國際條碼的
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transcript.whisperx[7221].text 一個對接了
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transcript.whisperx[7222].text 所以我覺得這個就能夠解決兩位委員
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transcript.whisperx[7223].text 包括今天早上到現在
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transcript.whisperx[7224].text 所有委員要求你們的部分
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transcript.whisperx[7225].text 全部都可以來
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transcript.whisperx[7226].text 而且是整個產品的
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transcript.whisperx[7227].text 整個全售期
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transcript.whisperx[7228].text 全部的都在這邊
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transcript.whisperx[7229].text 監管
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transcript.whisperx[7230].text 以上謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[7231].text 好,那我們就持續
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transcript.whisperx[7232].text 再溝通
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transcript.whisperx[7233].text 再看有沒有什麼關事
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transcript.whisperx[7234].text 請
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transcript.whisperx[7235].text 請
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transcript.whisperx[7236].text 那麼另外在第七條的第一項
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transcript.whisperx[7237].text 原本的條文
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transcript.whisperx[7238].text 再去規範
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transcript.whisperx[7239].text 那麼要設定定
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transcript.whisperx[7240].text 所謂的安全
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transcript.whisperx[7241].text 這個監測計畫的業者
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transcript.whisperx[7242].text 所以他有這種分級
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transcript.whisperx[7243].text 依風險管理的概念
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transcript.whisperx[7244].text 只不過這個
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transcript.whisperx[7245].text 各位委員都關切到了這一次
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transcript.whisperx[7246].text 這個食品
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transcript.whisperx[7247].text 安全監測計畫其實這個
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transcript.whisperx[7248].text 中年有品他本身是有訂定的
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transcript.whisperx[7249].text 只不過他的訂定
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transcript.whisperx[7250].text 是他訂完之後
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transcript.whisperx[7251].text 只憑藉著就是
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transcript.whisperx[7252].text 這個地方政府去查核的時候
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transcript.whisperx[7253].text 依照這個去查
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transcript.whisperx[7254].text 那麼當然也限制
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transcript.whisperx[7255].text 有一個限制就是可能
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transcript.whisperx[7256].text 在地方查核的過程當中
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transcript.whisperx[7258].text 因為他們要查核的
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transcript.whisperx[7259].text 食品的類別樣態很多
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transcript.whisperx[7260].text 所以沒有辦法真正
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transcript.whisperx[7261].text 實際去看
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transcript.whisperx[7262].text 他如果修訂了這些計畫的內容
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transcript.whisperx[7263].text 是不是合理
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transcript.whisperx[7264].text 是不是符合科學等等這一些
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transcript.whisperx[7265].text 所以我們這一次在修法裡面
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transcript.whisperx[7266].text 特別將第七條
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transcript.whisperx[7267].text 那麼應該訂定
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transcript.whisperx[7268].text 也就是說我們需要最高等級
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transcript.whisperx[7269].text 要求管理的
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transcript.whisperx[7270].text 這個類別跟業者規模的
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transcript.whisperx[7271].text 他的安全監測計畫
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transcript.whisperx[7274].text 讓以後去這個
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transcript.whisperx[7275].text 這個查核的時候可以依照
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transcript.whisperx[7276].text 核定的這個方式
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transcript.whisperx[7277].text 這個版本去做一個集合
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transcript.whisperx[7278].text 那當然他過程會變動
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transcript.whisperx[7279].text 所以才會在這個法裡面的第六條
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transcript.whisperx[7281].text 這個食品業者訂定的這個監測計畫
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transcript.whisperx[7282].text 涵蓋是內容
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transcript.whisperx[7283].text 核定的程序
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transcript.whisperx[7288].text 還有他的收費等等
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transcript.whisperx[7289].text 這個簽證紀錄的保存跟資格
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transcript.whisperx[7290].text 這個費紙等等
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transcript.whisperx[7293].text 而不是都單純由他自主來
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transcript.whisperx[7294].text 這個管理自主來這個訂定而已
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transcript.whisperx[7305].text 不會只適用於遊品業者
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transcript.whisperx[7306].text 他會適用於所有的食品業者
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transcript.whisperx[7307].text 所以我們必須全面性的去
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transcript.whisperx[7308].text 去涵蓋
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transcript.whisperx[7314].text 半成品等等
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transcript.whisperx[7318].text 也會去授權一個辦法
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transcript.whisperx[7326].text 那麼另外一個第三個就是通報
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transcript.whisperx[7330].text 知悉的食品業者也要通報
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transcript.whisperx[7342].text 也去授權了
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transcript.whisperx[7349].text 它有兩類的通報
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transcript.whisperx[7351].text 第五項就是業者的通報
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transcript.whisperx[7353].text 通報的內容
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transcript.whisperx[7355].text 未來我們也可以在這個辦法裡面去訂定
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transcript.whisperx[7356].text 我們即時公開
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transcript.whisperx[7357].text 所以這個是在這個修法裡面
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transcript.whisperx[7358].text 也呼應剛剛幾位委員所關切的
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transcript.whisperx[7360].text 前一位
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transcript.whisperx[7361].text 在這次
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transcript.whisperx[7362].text 我們衛福部版本
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transcript.whisperx[7363].text 就是
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transcript.whisperx[7364].text 有提到
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transcript.whisperx[7365].text 提到就是說在這個
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transcript.whisperx[7366].text 這個
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transcript.whisperx[7370].text 24小時內就要通報主管機關
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transcript.whisperx[7371].text 我覺得在這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[7373].text 所以我在這裡再做幾個提醒
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transcript.whisperx[7374].text 在大家可能要注意一下
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transcript.whisperx[7375].text 在114年的這個7月1號的時候
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transcript.whisperx[7376].text 這個
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transcript.whisperx[7377].text 監察院的公告調查報告
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transcript.whisperx[7378].text 啊
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transcript.whisperx[7379].text 4號114
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transcript.whisperx[7380].text 這個
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transcript.whisperx[7381].text 社調0014這份報告當中
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transcript.whisperx[7382].text 有特別提到就是
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transcript.whisperx[7383].text 國內檢驗機構接受食品業者
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transcript.whisperx[7386].text 國家標準測試與校正實驗室能力
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transcript.whisperx[7387].text 一般要求事項
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transcript.whisperx[7388].text 那4.2節保密規定
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transcript.whisperx[7393].text 是統計本規範4.2節的保密規定
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transcript.whisperx[7395].text 應針對所獲得或產生的所有資訊與保密
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transcript.whisperx[7396].text 那但是這一次
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transcript.whisperx[7397].text 在衛福部提出的這個版本當中
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transcript.whisperx[7400].text 這個部分就跟這個檢驗機構的這個保密義務
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transcript.whisperx[7402].text 那新規定將
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transcript.whisperx[7403].text 新規定會迫使這個檢驗機構面臨
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transcript.whisperx[7404].text 遵守通報及違反保密義務的這個法規衝突
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transcript.whisperx[7405].text 所以這個部分我們
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transcript.whisperx[7406].text 也需要釐清
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transcript.whisperx[7407].text 那也要看就是說其他的這個配套
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transcript.whisperx[7409].text 看是要怎麼樣來處理
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transcript.whisperx[7410].text 好的我大概就做這個提醒
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transcript.whisperx[7411].text 那另外就是說
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transcript.whisperx[7413].text 這個實驗室
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transcript.whisperx[7414].text 我們一般實驗室在檢驗的是
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transcript.whisperx[7415].text 叫做樣品
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transcript.whisperx[7416].text 那民眾買的呢
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transcript.whisperx[7417].text 是產品
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transcript.whisperx[7419].text 實驗室通常他只針對這個樣品來提供數據喔
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transcript.whisperx[7420].text 那但是並沒有辦法針對產品提供
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transcript.whisperx[7421].text 合法或不合法的證明
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transcript.whisperx[7422].text 所以
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transcript.whisperx[7423].text 這第三實驗室通報的這個機制會有一些
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transcript.whisperx[7424].text 他會有這個問題跟困擾
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transcript.whisperx[7425].text 如果說一定要訂定的話
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transcript.whisperx[7426].text 我們應該要有完整的配套喔
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transcript.whisperx[7427].text 跟排他條款
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transcript.whisperx[7428].text 不然
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transcript.whisperx[7429].text 場內的這些內控機制喔
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transcript.whisperx[7430].text 到時候會沒有人敢做喔
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transcript.whisperx[7431].text 所以
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transcript.whisperx[7432].text 我在猜喔
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transcript.whisperx[7433].text 就是想出這一條的人喔
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transcript.whisperx[7434].text 對食品工廠的這個實驗室間的
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transcript.whisperx[7435].text 這個依賴關係喔
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transcript.whisperx[7436].text 可能沒有非常的了解
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transcript.whisperx[7437].text 那
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transcript.whisperx[7438].text 整個實驗室在所有的報告裡面
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transcript.whisperx[7439].text 都會附加一條
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transcript.whisperx[7440].text 就是說本實驗室
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transcript.whisperx[7441].text 只對提供的樣品
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transcript.whisperx[7442].text 負責
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transcript.whisperx[7443].text 不對實驗數據的結果
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transcript.whisperx[7444].text 是否合法做出評論
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transcript.whisperx[7445].text 那重點呢
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transcript.whisperx[7446].text 也就是說樣品
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transcript.whisperx[7447].text 符合標準的時候
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transcript.whisperx[7448].text 不代表真的產品喔
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transcript.whisperx[7449].text 也符合標準
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transcript.whisperx[7450].text 那甚至說有這個不肖的業者喔
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transcript.whisperx[7451].text 會送A樣品去
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transcript.whisperx[7452].text 檢驗
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transcript.whisperx[7453].text 然後呢
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transcript.whisperx[7454].text 產品的部分卻是出這個B產品
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transcript.whisperx[7455].text 所以不應該
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transcript.whisperx[7457].text 有這一條強制的措施啦
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transcript.whisperx[7458].text 那在這個實際運作上
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transcript.whisperx[7459].text 可能會造成很大的問題
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transcript.whisperx[7460].text 那我大概就是
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transcript.whisperx[7463].text 那就
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transcript.whisperx[7464].text 希望大家可以在
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transcript.whisperx[7465].text 好好想一想討論一下
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transcript.whisperx[7466].text 喔
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transcript.whisperx[7467].text 再請連帶化委員
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transcript.whisperx[7468].text 這個
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transcript.whisperx[7470].text 我這樣的以下建議啦
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transcript.whisperx[7471].text 就是我覺得第七條跟
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transcript.whisperx[7472].text 七之一是最有共識的
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transcript.whisperx[7473].text 聽起來是所有最有共識的條文
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transcript.whisperx[7474].text 是不是可以請主席
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transcript.whisperx[7475].text 請要衛福部啊
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transcript.whisperx[7476].text 就能夠就
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transcript.whisperx[7478].text 所有委員的
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transcript.whisperx[7479].text 體案版本
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transcript.whisperx[7480].text 跟他們在發言當中所做的
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transcript.whisperx[7481].text 要求
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transcript.whisperx[7482].text 就做出一個嘗試做出
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transcript.whisperx[7483].text 第一版的
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transcript.whisperx[7484].text 有共識的一個版本啦
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transcript.whisperx[7485].text 先嘗試做出來
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transcript.whisperx[7486].text 因為我覺得這是最有共識的條文
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transcript.whisperx[7487].text 最關鍵也是最有共識
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transcript.whisperx[7488].text 那是不是可以請主席
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transcript.whisperx[7489].text 能夠參採這個
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transcript.whisperx[7491].text 好,先請臨時方委員
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transcript.whisperx[7492].text 不過,我覺得
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transcript.whisperx[7493].text 我還是搞不太清楚第七條跟第八條
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transcript.whisperx[7494].text 就是說
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transcript.whisperx[7495].text 第八條看起來好像是
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transcript.whisperx[7496].text 生產過程當中的制度管理
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transcript.whisperx[7497].text 那基本的精神
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transcript.whisperx[7498].text 就是不管是GHP還是
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transcript.whisperx[7499].text HACCP嘛
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transcript.whisperx[7500].text 它基本上是一個危害的預防
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transcript.whisperx[7501].text 就要設定好
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transcript.whisperx[7502].text 然後發現
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transcript.whisperx[7503].text 然後你就要停損
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transcript.whisperx[7504].text 然後停止製造
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transcript.whisperx[7505].text 那你要先設定那個危害可能是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[7507].text 那第八條
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transcript.whisperx[7508].text 那第九條,第七條看起來
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transcript.whisperx[7509].text 很像是說
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transcript.whisperx[7510].text 做成的成品
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transcript.whisperx[7511].text 你要做還是定期的做安全監測
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transcript.whisperx[7512].text 那如果
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transcript.whisperx[7513].text 我沒看錯的話
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transcript.whisperx[7514].text 我們這個安全監測本來就有
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transcript.whisperx[7515].text 而且是很簡單的
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transcript.whisperx[7516].text 一般來講問的問題大概就是說
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transcript.whisperx[7517].text 你有沒有
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transcript.whisperx[7518].text 的這個
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transcript.whisperx[7519].text 檢驗,有沒有設置實驗室
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transcript.whisperx[7520].text 有沒有HACCP系統
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transcript.whisperx[7521].text 然後你有沒有
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transcript.whisperx[7523].text 然後你有沒有這個
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transcript.whisperx[7524].text 風險應變的制度
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transcript.whisperx[7525].text 大概就是那樣子而已
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transcript.whisperx[7526].text 原來的啦
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transcript.whisperx[7527].text 那你們現在是增加說
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transcript.whisperx[7528].text 那一定規模,一定風險,一定產業
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transcript.whisperx[7529].text 大概就是要把這個安全監測計畫
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transcript.whisperx[7530].text 送中央主管機關
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transcript.whisperx[7531].text 核定
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transcript.whisperx[7532].text 我不曉得你們
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transcript.whisperx[7533].text 這一個東西就多一個
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transcript.whisperx[7534].text 中央主管機關核定要幹什麼
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transcript.whisperx[7535].text 然後他還是自主管理
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transcript.whisperx[7536].text 那部長在報告的時候
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transcript.whisperx[7537].text 好像有講到說
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transcript.whisperx[7538].text 那我們是要讓人家去發現說
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transcript.whisperx[7539].text 第八條在執行面
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transcript.whisperx[7540].text 讓地方政府知道怎麼查
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transcript.whisperx[7541].text 沒有啊,你第七條沒有這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[7542].text 寫啊
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transcript.whisperx[7543].text 你沒有這樣寫啊
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transcript.whisperx[7544].text 所以你這個安全監測計畫
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transcript.whisperx[7545].text 多了一個中央核定
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transcript.whisperx[7546].text 你還是很簡單的說
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transcript.whisperx[7547].text 你有沒有行理如意啦
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transcript.whisperx[7548].text 你有沒有怎樣有
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transcript.whisperx[7549].text 打勾打勾這樣子而已
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transcript.whisperx[7550].text 就是這樣子而已
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transcript.whisperx[7551].text 那跟第八條要扣合在一起
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transcript.whisperx[7552].text 其實是第八條更重要
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transcript.whisperx[7553].text 他為什麼這一次會這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[7554].text 因為他沒有設定
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transcript.whisperx[7555].text CCP嘛,他沒有危害分析
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transcript.whisperx[7556].text 危害分析沒有納入本篇筆
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transcript.whisperx[7557].text 然後他沒有設定
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transcript.whisperx[7558].text 本篇筆當成危害的因子
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transcript.whisperx[7559].text 那他自然不會設下本篇筆的
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transcript.whisperx[7560].text 這個管制點嘛
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transcript.whisperx[7561].text 那他沒有設定
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transcript.whisperx[7562].text 管制點,他當然
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transcript.whisperx[7563].text 就不會去嚴格的監控
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transcript.whisperx[7564].text 隨時可以把那個
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transcript.whisperx[7565].text 豆子的那個
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transcript.whisperx[7566].text 放寬十倍嘛
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transcript.whisperx[7567].text 那他發現了超標以後
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transcript.whisperx[7568].text 因為他不是他的
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transcript.whisperx[7569].text 危害點,不是他的CCP
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transcript.whisperx[7570].text 所以他不會建立
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transcript.whisperx[7571].text 矯正的措施啦
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transcript.whisperx[7572].text 甚至
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transcript.whisperx[7573].text 人家是說你超標了
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transcript.whisperx[7574].text 你就趕快矯正
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transcript.whisperx[7575].text 他沒有辦法矯正啊
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transcript.whisperx[7576].text 我老闆花錢買了這些東西進來
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transcript.whisperx[7577].text 成本那麼多
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transcript.whisperx[7578].text 我還矯正的話
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transcript.whisperx[7579].text 老闆會允許他矯正嗎
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transcript.whisperx[7580].text 然後最後
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transcript.whisperx[7581].text 最後他沒有矯正
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transcript.whisperx[7582].text 然後也沒有下架
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transcript.whisperx[7583].text 也沒有停止生產
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transcript.whisperx[7584].text 然後直接在,甚至在建立記錄
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transcript.whisperx[7586].text 核心就是記錄下來
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transcript.whisperx[7587].text 就偽造文書啊
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transcript.whisperx[7588].text 不是改量而已
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transcript.whisperx[7589].text 什麼通通都是改的
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transcript.whisperx[7590].text 都是造假的
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transcript.whisperx[7591].text 全部
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transcript.whisperx[7592].text 所以我們的意思是說
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transcript.whisperx[7593].text 第七條
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transcript.whisperx[7594].text 你的送中央主管機關合併的目的何在
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transcript.whisperx[7595].text 你有驗證
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transcript.whisperx[7596].text 有專業的人去簽證
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transcript.whisperx[7597].text 還是一樣啊
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transcript.whisperx[7598].text 然後在第八條
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transcript.whisperx[7599].text 最核心也是第八條啊
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transcript.whisperx[7600].text 你的HACCP還是GHP制度
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transcript.whisperx[7601].text 你在那裡也沒有監控
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transcript.whisperx[7602].text 那怎麼變成
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transcript.whisperx[7603].text 從自律變他律
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transcript.whisperx[7604].text 怎麼從自主管理變成他律
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transcript.whisperx[7605].text 在法條裡面要講清楚
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transcript.whisperx[7606].text 沒有講清楚
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transcript.whisperx[7607].text 比如說我的食品安全監測計畫
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transcript.whisperx[7608].text 哇,PC
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transcript.whisperx[7609].text 地方政府必須據詞
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transcript.whisperx[7611].text 要怎麼樣去檢查
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transcript.whisperx[7612].text 根據這個計畫去執行
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transcript.whisperx[7613].text 第八條
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transcript.whisperx[7614].text 你的HACCP制度
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transcript.whisperx[7615].text 全部都資訊
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transcript.whisperx[7616].text 抽驗、危害點什麼什麼
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transcript.whisperx[7617].text 通通包括揭露你的檢驗結果
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transcript.whisperx[7618].text 通通都上網公開
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transcript.whisperx[7619].text 然後我地方政府
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transcript.whisperx[7620].text 我們也要在法裡面明定
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transcript.whisperx[7621].text 明定地方政府
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transcript.whisperx[7623].text 的這一些相關的
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transcript.whisperx[7624].text 運作制度面的運作
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transcript.whisperx[7625].text 也要不定期
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transcript.whisperx[7627].text 去抽查
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transcript.whisperx[7628].text 然後
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transcript.whisperx[7629].text 根據它公開
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transcript.whisperx[7630].text 上網的所有資料data
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transcript.whisperx[7631].text 來比對有沒有造假
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transcript.whisperx[7632].text 有沒有問題
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transcript.whisperx[7633].text 隨時都是要這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[7634].text 應該是要這樣子才能把它從次率變成他率
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transcript.whisperx[7635].text 否則的話
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transcript.whisperx[7636].text 文字法條裡面都沒有講清楚
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transcript.whisperx[7637].text 不知道這個東西是要幹嘛
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transcript.whisperx[7638].text 只看到多了兩個很具體不錯的
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transcript.whisperx[7639].text 一個是實驗室發現
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transcript.whisperx[7640].text 你還是要通報上來
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transcript.whisperx[7641].text 24小時內通報
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transcript.whisperx[7642].text 只看到台糖條款
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transcript.whisperx[7643].text 你窒息了,管你有沒有買
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transcript.whisperx[7644].text 你也是要通報
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transcript.whisperx[7645].text 這個是比較具體
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transcript.whisperx[7646].text 其他你在講說
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transcript.whisperx[7647].text 報中央主管機關核定
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transcript.whisperx[7648].text 核定以後怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[7649].text 不知道
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transcript.whisperx[7650].text 不知道
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transcript.whisperx[7651].text 你說沒關係我們叫有
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transcript.whisperx[7652].text 有合格的
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transcript.whisperx[7653].text 這一些技師去
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transcript.whisperx[7654].text 負責簽證,簽證了又怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[7655].text 簽證了
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transcript.whisperx[7656].text 簽證了他的計畫嗎
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transcript.whisperx[7657].text 簽證他的監測內容
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transcript.whisperx[7658].text 跟實際生產有一樣嗎
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transcript.whisperx[7659].text 他的計畫
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transcript.whisperx[7660].text 就書面上的paper的
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transcript.whisperx[7661].text 跟第一線的
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transcript.whisperx[7662].text 實際生產的那個落差斷裂
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transcript.whisperx[7663].text 要怎麼連結在一起
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transcript.whisperx[7664].text 好,那就針對第七條
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transcript.whisperx[7665].text 請行政部門就針對
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transcript.whisperx[7666].text 剛才中委所有委員的意見
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transcript.whisperx[7667].text 做文字修正,再看一下
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transcript.whisperx[7668].text 可以嗎
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transcript.whisperx[7669].text 期待著
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transcript.whisperx[7671].text 你應該把
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transcript.whisperx[7672].text 把現在所有的委員喔
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transcript.whisperx[7673].text 講的意見你一定要想清楚
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transcript.whisperx[7674].text 一定是他律要介入,不是自律
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transcript.whisperx[7675].text 要公開上網
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transcript.whisperx[7676].text 然後你們地方政府進去的時候
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transcript.whisperx[7677].text 要執行要怎麼執行
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transcript.whisperx[7678].text 那就七七之一跟第八條一起看嘛
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transcript.whisperx[7680].text 不好意思,王委員
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transcript.whisperx[7681].text 你先,你先
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transcript.whisperx[7682].text 我真的呼籲就是
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transcript.whisperx[7683].text 自律公共化
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transcript.whisperx[7684].text 那包括就是說檢驗的部分
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transcript.whisperx[7685].text 我們也是可以在這個
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transcript.whisperx[7686].text Sumrise 2027當中
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transcript.whisperx[7687].text 去導入去要求
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transcript.whisperx[7688].text 而且剛才的檢驗報告
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transcript.whisperx[7689].text 跟你生產線當中的落差
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transcript.whisperx[7690].text 你生產界已經做
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transcript.whisperx[7691].text 這樣的一個
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transcript.whisperx[7692].text Sumrise的這個物聯網
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transcript.whisperx[7693].text 即時線上的
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transcript.whisperx[7694].text 的一個記載了
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transcript.whisperx[7696].text 如果這也是政府要求的
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transcript.whisperx[7697].text 這也是我們未來如果導入的
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transcript.whisperx[7698].text 必要的這樣的
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transcript.whisperx[7699].text 一個欄位的時候
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transcript.whisperx[7700].text 那你檢驗的時候也要
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transcript.whisperx[7701].text 登入在這樣的一個物聯網的
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transcript.whisperx[7702].text 這樣的二維條碼
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transcript.whisperx[7703].text 上,那這樣就可以
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transcript.whisperx[7704].text 勾集起來,那包括
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transcript.whisperx[7705].text 中央跟地方
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transcript.whisperx[7706].text 那你也可以在這樣的一個
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transcript.whisperx[7707].text 二維條碼當中
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transcript.whisperx[7712].text 也可以來,也可以導入
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transcript.whisperx[7713].text 所以中央地方也一條線了
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transcript.whisperx[7714].text 好,我以上說明,謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[7715].text 那個剛剛部長特別提到一個
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transcript.whisperx[7716].text 就是說法定下去
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transcript.whisperx[7717].text 要一體適用,但食品
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transcript.whisperx[7718].text 業其實分
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transcript.whisperx[7719].text 很多種
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transcript.whisperx[7720].text 那我覺得現在其實委員們最關心的是
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transcript.whisperx[7721].text 屬於高風險
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transcript.whisperx[7722].text 就是它是上游的原物料
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transcript.whisperx[7723].text 的這一類,那這一類呢
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transcript.whisperx[7726].text 管理,你還是是一個安全
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transcript.whisperx[7727].text 監測的結果,就是那個思維邏輯是沒有
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transcript.whisperx[7728].text 轉換過來的,因為
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transcript.whisperx[7730].text 所以你沒有辦法
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transcript.whisperx[7731].text 在你的法條這樣寫
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transcript.whisperx[7732].text 那我給一個建議,就是因為本來我有
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transcript.whisperx[7733].text 七之一,有沒有可能
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transcript.whisperx[7735].text 原來的,就是還是
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transcript.whisperx[7739].text 而且它是這種
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transcript.whisperx[7740].text 大量原物料的,我
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transcript.whisperx[7742].text 像這種應該要高密度監督的
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transcript.whisperx[7748].text 要求到哪裡,它就做到哪裡,譬如說原物料
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transcript.whisperx[7749].text 像這種油品的,你就要訂出
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transcript.whisperx[7750].text 一套油品它從採購
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transcript.whisperx[7751].text 的原料,你的熱水
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transcript.whisperx[7752].text 率,你沒有自由放寬的空間
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transcript.whisperx[7753].text 就是符合政府標準
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transcript.whisperx[7754].text 一定是,譬如說零點五以下
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transcript.whisperx[7757].text 你要來做
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transcript.whisperx[7758].text 實用油的,你都要
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transcript.whisperx[7760].text 就像這一次的苦茶油,為什麼
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transcript.whisperx[7762].text 還賣那麼貴,還有機
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transcript.whisperx[7763].text 那你們現在才說,我食藥署去輔導
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transcript.whisperx[7767].text 上游的,我都有一套屬於
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transcript.whisperx[7770].text 從源頭開始,我就要求你這個
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transcript.whisperx[7774].text 到哪一個階段就應該要怎樣
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transcript.whisperx[7777].text 可以導過來,是你針對真正
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transcript.whisperx[7780].text 高流通信的這一類
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transcript.whisperx[7782].text 譬如說油
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transcript.whisperx[7783].text 澱粉,過去發生過毒澱粉
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transcript.whisperx[7785].text 他大量的這個上游的這種
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transcript.whisperx[7786].text 調味料,他是最源頭的
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transcript.whisperx[7790].text 還有你剛剛講
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transcript.whisperx[7791].text 因為地方政府也不見得有那個
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transcript.whisperx[7792].text 專業的到位,那麼大的
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transcript.whisperx[7793].text 油廠,地方政府的能力不一樣
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transcript.whisperx[7794].text 他專業人員數值不一樣
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transcript.whisperx[7795].text 你說他有辦法監督他到什麼程度
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transcript.whisperx[7796].text 像這種大的專案
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transcript.whisperx[7797].text 食藥署自己擔起
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transcript.whisperx[7798].text 你們自己也有人員,你也可以找
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transcript.whisperx[7799].text 這個很夠力的專家學者
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transcript.whisperx[7800].text 你的所有的茶廠,我一定就是
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transcript.whisperx[7801].text 用最高規格的標準
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transcript.whisperx[7802].text 就是要查
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transcript.whisperx[7803].text 查的到位,那才叫查
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transcript.whisperx[7804].text 你如果說,這個是地方政府
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transcript.whisperx[7805].text 要叫地方政府去查
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transcript.whisperx[7806].text 他的專業沒有到那裡,看是看了
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transcript.whisperx[7807].text 但是沒有看出問題跟重點
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transcript.whisperx[7808].text 也是沒有用,所以我是覺得
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transcript.whisperx[7809].text 就中央主管機關
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transcript.whisperx[7810].text 你們應該是要抓大
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transcript.whisperx[7811].text 大的你就握在手上,這一種
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transcript.whisperx[7812].text 一下去就是,輻射出去
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transcript.whisperx[7813].text 就是很大宗的
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transcript.whisperx[7814].text 我直接食藥署握在手上
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transcript.whisperx[7815].text 我就要求你,我就盯住你
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transcript.whisperx[7816].text 我就讓你跑不掉
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transcript.whisperx[7817].text 你這樣子不是一條邊你很好做嗎
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transcript.whisperx[7818].text 你就所有你部長就很安心
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transcript.whisperx[7819].text 那你如果這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[7820].text 就是閃著這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[7821].text 然後又說你送計畫,然後計畫
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transcript.whisperx[7822].text 又是去確定計畫的人現場
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transcript.whisperx[7823].text 看又看不懂,我覺得那個
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transcript.whisperx[7824].text 做不事情,就是其實
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transcript.whisperx[7825].text 也沒有到那麼多啦
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transcript.whisperx[7826].text 我們的食品原物料最大宗的
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transcript.whisperx[7827].text 柴米油鹽醬醋茶
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transcript.whisperx[7828].text 最大宗最上位的,你把那個把握好
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transcript.whisperx[7829].text 對啊
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transcript.whisperx[7830].text 就是那幾種啊,你把那個把握好
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transcript.whisperx[7831].text 你不用這個法
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transcript.whisperx[7832].text 去,去
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transcript.whisperx[7833].text 要所有人都適用,我覺得那的確
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transcript.whisperx[7834].text 也不公平,就是說有一些很小的
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transcript.whisperx[7835].text 你給他
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transcript.whisperx[7836].text 從原物料要怎麼做
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transcript.whisperx[7837].text 做不來啦,那只要他上游
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transcript.whisperx[7838].text 的原料沒有問題
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transcript.whisperx[7839].text 他就沒問題嘛
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transcript.whisperx[7840].text 對啊
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transcript.whisperx[7841].text 你沒有啦,你現在
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transcript.whisperx[7842].text 你的高風險的做法,你還是原來那一套
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transcript.whisperx[7843].text 沒有沒有,我跟委員說明
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transcript.whisperx[7844].text 這一條呢,過去就叫做
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transcript.whisperx[7845].text 自主管理啦
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transcript.whisperx[7846].text 所以你可以看他的
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transcript.whisperx[7847].text 原本的條文的第二項
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transcript.whisperx[7848].text 就是在講他必須要
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transcript.whisperx[7849].text 自己檢驗嘛,那所以我們
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transcript.whisperx[7850].text 這一次呢,就把他導入了
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transcript.whisperx[7851].text 就是加強外部的
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transcript.whisperx[7852].text 監測,除了這個
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transcript.whisperx[7853].text 監測的計畫
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transcript.whisperx[7854].text 我們特別在第六項去寫
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transcript.whisperx[7855].text 把一些類別規模,就是剛剛
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transcript.whisperx[7856].text 像委員提到的
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transcript.whisperx[7857].text 你是很上游的,最大宗的
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transcript.whisperx[7858].text 遊類的,所以類別規模
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transcript.whisperx[7859].text 那麼
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transcript.whisperx[7860].text 我們就要求他要報這個
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transcript.whisperx[7861].text 監測計畫,這個監測計畫
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transcript.whisperx[7862].text 的內容要報什麼,我們也授權
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transcript.whisperx[7863].text 主管機關來遞
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transcript.whisperx[7864].text 我們會遞他,他要報的內容
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transcript.whisperx[7865].text 我們就是不知道你到底要報什麼
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transcript.whisperx[7866].text 你應該這裡跟我們講啊
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transcript.whisperx[7867].text 因為整條裡面
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transcript.whisperx[7868].text 沒有看到他從自主管理
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transcript.whisperx[7869].text 變成他
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transcript.whisperx[7870].text 他律的這個作用的管理
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transcript.whisperx[7871].text 作用
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transcript.whisperx[7872].text 那些作用法管理的作用設計在哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[7873].text 沒有啊
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transcript.whisperx[7874].text 你都沒有改變整個架構
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transcript.whisperx[7875].text 只是多了一個監測計畫
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transcript.whisperx[7876].text 可是你的監測計畫
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transcript.whisperx[7877].text 為什麼可以從自主管理
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transcript.whisperx[7878].text 變成我們大家管理他
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transcript.whisperx[7879].text 那你沒有講出來
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transcript.whisperx[7880].text 我們再怎麼看都還是自主管理啊
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transcript.whisperx[7881].text 我們再怎麼看
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transcript.whisperx[7882].text 這一條都還是自主管理啊
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transcript.whisperx[7883].text 可不可以是有一個七之一
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transcript.whisperx[7884].text 就是你把那個再獨立出來
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transcript.whisperx[7885].text 就真的這個高風險的
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transcript.whisperx[7886].text 你的寫法要不一樣
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transcript.whisperx[7887].text 要不然你漢邦邦整個寫在那一條的時候
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transcript.whisperx[7888].text 真的大家看起來是自主
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transcript.whisperx[7889].text 現在就的確是自主管理啊
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transcript.whisperx[7890].text 包括第八條
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transcript.whisperx[7891].text 也是要大幅的修改
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transcript.whisperx[7892].text 也不能夠自主管理
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transcript.whisperx[7893].text 第八條的HACCP
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transcript.whisperx[7894].text 現在大家質詢過兩遍
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transcript.whisperx[7895].text 我就說這個行程紙上作業而已嘛
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transcript.whisperx[7896].text 全部塗法不足以
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transcript.whisperx[7897].text 不足以自行
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transcript.whisperx[7898].text 監測計畫讓你看看
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transcript.whisperx[7899].text 很漂亮的通過又如何
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transcript.whisperx[7900].text 你的HACCP計畫也設置了
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transcript.whisperx[7901].text 很多寫文章寫得很好
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transcript.whisperx[7902].text 也是通過了
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transcript.whisperx[7903].text 現在中寧有紙也是依照HACCP制度
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transcript.whisperx[7904].text 在管理和運作的啊
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transcript.whisperx[7905].text 但是制度是制度
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transcript.whisperx[7906].text 文件是文件
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transcript.whisperx[7907].text 實際生產就不是HACCP耶
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transcript.whisperx[7908].text 不是
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transcript.whisperx[7909].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[7910].text 我非常認同我們兩位委員
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transcript.whisperx[7911].text 的這個說法
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transcript.whisperx[7912].text 所以呢
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transcript.whisperx[7913].text 在Sumrise的導入
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transcript.whisperx[7914].text 針對大眾物資
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transcript.whisperx[7915].text 高風險的產業
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transcript.whisperx[7916].text 強制執行
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transcript.whisperx[7917].text Sumrise 2027
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transcript.whisperx[7918].text 強制要求
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transcript.whisperx[7919].text 這樣就是能夠最上端
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transcript.whisperx[7920].text 連你的物料的進口的批號
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transcript.whisperx[7921].text 以及批號
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transcript.whisperx[7922].text 進來它的製造
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transcript.whisperx[7923].text 加工你全部
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transcript.whisperx[7924].text 包括你的檢驗相關
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transcript.whisperx[7925].text 不管是你自主檢驗
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transcript.whisperx[7926].text 也要求在這個Sumrise上的導入
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transcript.whisperx[7927].text 所以你可以解決你生產線當中
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transcript.whisperx[7928].text 因為物聯網
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transcript.whisperx[7929].text 我的這個欄位的要求你必須有這樣的
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transcript.whisperx[7930].text 整成馬上誰都沒有辦法造假
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transcript.whisperx[7931].text 在製造當中
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transcript.whisperx[7932].text 你這個是怎麼烘焙的
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transcript.whisperx[7933].text 烘焙幾度
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transcript.whisperx[7935].text 全部都在那邊登入
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transcript.whisperx[7936].text 以及這跟你做外部的
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transcript.whisperx[7937].text 檢驗當中的
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transcript.whisperx[7938].text 我們都可以要求它的項目
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transcript.whisperx[7939].text 你的外部檢驗當中
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transcript.whisperx[7940].text 也要給我登入
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transcript.whisperx[7941].text Sumrise的這種物聯網內
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transcript.whisperx[7942].text 以及你即使
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transcript.whisperx[7943].text 包括他們給你送審的
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transcript.whisperx[7944].text 你送審的這個這樣的一個
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transcript.whisperx[7945].text 紙本作業我也會要求
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transcript.whisperx[7946].text 你要送審的哪些是
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transcript.whisperx[7947].text 強制項目
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transcript.whisperx[7948].text 全部都可以把這樣所有的
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transcript.whisperx[7949].text 訊息在這個Sumrise
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transcript.whisperx[7950].text 四千多項的一個欄位當中
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transcript.whisperx[7951].text 全部要求下去
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transcript.whisperx[7952].text 所以反而是你要在
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transcript.whisperx[7953].text 你們的文字從七七四一
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transcript.whisperx[7954].text 第八項
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transcript.whisperx[7955].text 我覺得這兩位委員所要求的部分
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transcript.whisperx[7956].text 那再加上本席的
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transcript.whisperx[7957].text 要求的部分強制導入Sumrise
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transcript.whisperx[7958].text 他們就是做最
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transcript.whisperx[7959].text 最最最就是做最先的一個示範
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transcript.whisperx[7960].text 好謝謝以上
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transcript.whisperx[7961].text 好 鄭捐石分委員
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transcript.whisperx[7962].text 呃
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transcript.whisperx[7963].text 各位我再講一下
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transcript.whisperx[7964].text 我覺得每修一次這個
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transcript.whisperx[7965].text 食安法我就打臉我們自己
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transcript.whisperx[7966].text 立法院每修一次
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transcript.whisperx[7967].text 就打臉我們自己因為
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transcript.whisperx[7968].text 修好了然後他就發現說
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transcript.whisperx[7969].text 這個制度又有問題
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transcript.whisperx[7970].text 修好了又說這個制度
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transcript.whisperx[7971].text 還有問題我
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transcript.whisperx[7972].text 我其實是很不願意這樣子可是
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transcript.whisperx[7973].text 我還是要課走行政部門
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transcript.whisperx[7974].text 譬如說啦我們在這裡
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transcript.whisperx[7975].text 講這麼久啦我們一直在講
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transcript.whisperx[7976].text 最上游
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transcript.whisperx[7977].text 最上游的原料最大宗
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transcript.whisperx[7978].text 就那幾樣
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transcript.whisperx[7979].text 到底有哪幾個東西你講不講的出來啦
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transcript.whisperx[7980].text 他的風險是什麼包括苦茶油
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transcript.whisperx[7981].text 苦茶油我跟你講
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transcript.whisperx[7982].text 中國大陸苦茶汁
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transcript.whisperx[7983].text 煉油弄出來本篇筆沒有超標
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transcript.whisperx[7985].text 其實就是混油嘛
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transcript.whisperx[7986].text 可是你們
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transcript.whisperx[7987].text 你們連混油苦茶油
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transcript.whisperx[7988].text 混油
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transcript.whisperx[7990].text 都沒有
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transcript.whisperx[7991].text 都沒有
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transcript.whisperx[7992].text 你說要怎麼管理
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transcript.whisperx[7993].text 從上游最上游
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transcript.whisperx[7994].text 可是你檢驗方法也沒有
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transcript.whisperx[7995].text 怎麼管理不要講游
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transcript.whisperx[7996].text 有沒有其他的
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transcript.whisperx[7997].text 大宗最上游的物資
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transcript.whisperx[8000].text 有沒有檢驗方法
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transcript.whisperx[8001].text 不知道
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transcript.whisperx[8002].text 那更不要講
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transcript.whisperx[8003].text 好我們剛剛到後面
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transcript.whisperx[8004].text 還有22條
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transcript.whisperx[8005].text 在講說標示
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transcript.whisperx[8006].text 這個原生產國
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transcript.whisperx[8007].text 很多這個
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transcript.whisperx[8008].text 食品加工的原料來源
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transcript.whisperx[8009].text 是來自於外國輸入
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transcript.whisperx[8010].text 他的原生產國可是
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transcript.whisperx[8011].text 原生產國跟台灣本地
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transcript.whisperx[8012].text 除了茶葉
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transcript.whisperx[8013].text 有可以驗出來以外
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transcript.whisperx[8014].text 其他品項
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transcript.whisperx[8015].text 有檢驗方法檢驗標準嗎
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transcript.whisperx[8016].text 沒有
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transcript.whisperx[8017].text 沒有能力
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transcript.whisperx[8018].text 沒有能力
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transcript.whisperx[8020].text 沒有意義
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transcript.whisperx[8021].text 我標示台灣
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transcript.whisperx[8022].text 我說你這個是中國
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transcript.whisperx[8023].text 除了去抓到他
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transcript.whisperx[8024].text 就是從中國輸入原料以外
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transcript.whisperx[8025].text 如果抓不到的話
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transcript.whisperx[8026].text 他混在一起的話
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transcript.whisperx[8028].text 去檢驗這是中國的原料生產出來
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transcript.whisperx[8030].text 沒有
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transcript.whisperx[8031].text 然後你們就會說
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transcript.whisperx[8032].text 所以現在我們在這裡也講
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transcript.whisperx[8033].text 就是說
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transcript.whisperx[8034].text 有時候真的很無助就是在這裡
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transcript.whisperx[8035].text 很難我們知道很難
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transcript.whisperx[8036].text 可是食藥署真的是
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transcript.whisperx[8037].text 我們知道食藥署的
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transcript.whisperx[8038].text 業務真的是很繁重
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transcript.whisperx[8039].text 又有食品又有化妝品
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transcript.whisperx[8040].text 又有藥品又有醫材
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transcript.whisperx[8041].text 通通都有
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transcript.whisperx[8042].text 可是
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transcript.whisperx[8043].text 可是
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transcript.whisperx[8044].text 現行就是這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[8045].text 你們要好好的給他管
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transcript.whisperx[8046].text 不要太
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transcript.whisperx[8047].text 思維上不要再
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transcript.whisperx[8048].text 要改革了
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transcript.whisperx[8049].text 整個思維都要顛覆掉
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transcript.whisperx[8050].text 不要再像以前一樣
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transcript.whisperx[8053].text 業者自主管理
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transcript.whisperx[8056].text 這麼大的這一些狀況裡面
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transcript.whisperx[8057].text 一次又一次
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transcript.whisperx[8058].text 人民已經
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transcript.whisperx[8059].text 我
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transcript.whisperx[8060].text 看不下去了
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transcript.whisperx[8061].text 應該都是要改了
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transcript.whisperx[8063].text 現在部門跟委員們
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transcript.whisperx[8064].text 然後把我們自修
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transcript.whisperx[8065].text 看看能不能弄出來
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transcript.whisperx[8066].text 那個不好意思
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transcript.whisperx[8067].text 那個大眾物資
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transcript.whisperx[8068].text 黃豆小麥玉米
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transcript.whisperx[8069].text 稻米糖咖啡
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transcript.whisperx[8070].text 這都是我們
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transcript.whisperx[8071].text 法定的大眾物資
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transcript.whisperx[8072].text 是不是要針對這些
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transcript.whisperx[8075].text 這不是我們今天要講的
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transcript.whisperx[8077].text 貴金屬黃金白銀
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transcript.whisperx[8080].text 這也不是我們講的
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transcript.whisperx[8089].text 稻米糖咖啡
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transcript.whisperx[8092].text 認定那就是也要求
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transcript.whisperx[8093].text 衛福部針對這幾個
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transcript.whisperx[8094].text 民地你就把這些既然委員
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transcript.whisperx[8096].text 那就把這幾個物資納入你們
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transcript.whisperx[8348].text 第七條跟第七條之一
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transcript.whisperx[8358].text 事業者自律的部分全部
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transcript.whisperx[8360].text 所以我說這是自律的公共化
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transcript.whisperx[8361].text 那包括這過程當中
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transcript.whisperx[8362].text 中央跟地方
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transcript.whisperx[8364].text 所以我在生產以及送報告的部分
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transcript.whisperx[8365].text 以及在我
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transcript.whisperx[8367].text 自送的這個報告當中
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transcript.whisperx[8368].text 的檢驗當中
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transcript.whisperx[8369].text 全部我都可以導入在
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transcript.whisperx[8370].text 這個二維條碼當中
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transcript.whisperx[8373].text 像王委員他就一直很要求
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transcript.whisperx[8374].text 這個大宗物資的部分
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transcript.whisperx[8375].text 那到底大宗物資是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[8377].text 剛才我講的那幾項
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transcript.whisperx[8378].text 這至少是法定的大宗物資
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transcript.whisperx[8379].text 那這些就直接就寫在
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transcript.whisperx[8380].text 就直接寫在我們的條文內
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transcript.whisperx[8381].text 所以我對於是不是
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transcript.whisperx[8383].text 當中是不是今天要產生
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transcript.whisperx[8384].text 一個可以供大家
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transcript.whisperx[8385].text 初步討論的一個
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transcript.whisperx[8386].text 文字版本
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transcript.whisperx[8388].text 各位委員但是我覺得
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transcript.whisperx[8391].text 到的部分也請主席也給他們一個
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transcript.whisperx[8392].text 時間要求他們不要說
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transcript.whisperx[8393].text 多一個月兩個月三個月都這個
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transcript.whisperx[8394].text 會期又要開始了
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transcript.whisperx[8395].text 那我覺得我們也很難對社會交代
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transcript.whisperx[8396].text 譬如說兩個禮拜內你就
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transcript.whisperx[8398].text 我們各個委員好那也許您
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transcript.whisperx[8399].text 在
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transcript.whisperx[8401].text 第二次協商的時候就會有一個進度
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transcript.whisperx[8402].text 好我以上好的一個建議
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transcript.whisperx[8403].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[8405].text 我想非常贊成
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transcript.whisperx[8406].text 林委員還有王委員
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transcript.whisperx[8407].text 這一部分還有包括剛剛
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transcript.whisperx[8408].text 那個淑芬委員所提到的話
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transcript.whisperx[8409].text 這真的是希望
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transcript.whisperx[8410].text 除了自主管理
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transcript.whisperx[8413].text 是落實在我們的這些
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transcript.whisperx[8414].text 法案上面落實的部分
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transcript.whisperx[8415].text 可以有各種
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transcript.whisperx[8416].text 不同的方式那剛剛
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transcript.whisperx[8419].text 事實上是把那個他利
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transcript.whisperx[8420].text 公共化可以具體
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transcript.whisperx[8422].text 散在不同的條文裡面
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transcript.whisperx[8425].text 把它整個成為大家在認知
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transcript.whisperx[8426].text 上可以更能夠
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transcript.whisperx[8428].text 書寫裡面是有一套的
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transcript.whisperx[8429].text 脈絡可循讓這個他利
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transcript.whisperx[8432].text 以上謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[8433].text 好謝謝那就請
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transcript.whisperx[8436].text 把它弄成一個大家可以
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transcript.whisperx[8443].text 第八條我覺得如果
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transcript.whisperx[8444].text 剛才蘇峰偉也要求我覺得
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transcript.whisperx[8450].text 進行正當的說明
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transcript.whisperx[8455].text 應透過食品安全資訊平台辦理預通報積極配合者免罰
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transcript.whisperx[8458].text 那因為業者自發現或自吸產品
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transcript.whisperx[8466].text 或者減輕行政責任的獎勵行為
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transcript.whisperx[8470].text 也無再以修法建立免罰
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transcript.whisperx[8477].text 在第43條已有相關的規定
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transcript.whisperx[8478].text 以上說明
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transcript.whisperx[8480].text 現在進行第八條
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transcript.whisperx[8481].text 剛才已經有討論過第八條
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transcript.whisperx[8483].text 那就是第七跟第七之一
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transcript.whisperx[8484].text 還有第八條一起
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transcript.whisperx[8485].text 行政院的版本可以在兩週內提出來
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transcript.whisperx[8486].text 讓大家那個
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transcript.whisperx[8487].text 協商一下
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transcript.whisperx[8494].text 用品清潔劑及器具包裝容器的相關議題
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transcript.whisperx[8496].text 系署本法第四章
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transcript.whisperx[8497].text 食品衛生管理第十七條授權的規範事項
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transcript.whisperx[8499].text 所規範的食品業者管理
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transcript.whisperx[8506].text 那二
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transcript.whisperx[8507].text 邱政堅委員等24人提案
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transcript.whisperx[8510].text 為突發事件緊急應變之需
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transcript.whisperx[8511].text 予以無法取得充分之實驗資料時
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transcript.whisperx[8512].text 得訂暫行標準
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transcript.whisperx[8513].text 至風險評估報告公開部分
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transcript.whisperx[8514].text 所以食藥署的網站已經有建置了
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transcript.whisperx[8516].text 相關的健康風險評估報告也會事實的公開
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transcript.whisperx[8517].text 是否能夠建議不予增訂
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transcript.whisperx[8518].text 以上說明
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transcript.whisperx[8521].text 那一件就不予增訂
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transcript.whisperx[8522].text 現在進行第九條
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transcript.whisperx[8524].text 那我們謝謝各位各個黨團體委員的提案
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transcript.whisperx[8526].text 重點包括要求業者每批次出貨後一定時間
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transcript.whisperx[8533].text 訂定追溯或追蹤系統資料與檢驗結果及批次辨識的資料
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transcript.whisperx[8537].text 部分事項將所以納入執法規進入研議
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transcript.whisperx[8541].text 組織
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transcript.whisperx[8543].text 流向及交易資料並明定每月10日前申報前一個月
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transcript.whisperx[8545].text 第二考量電子發票為追蹤金流的工具
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transcript.whisperx[8547].text 原刪除現行的第三項有關分階段公告使用電子發票規定
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transcript.whisperx[8549].text 供應鏈影響的程度及產業運作模式
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transcript.whisperx[8550].text 就其他電子申報資料項目
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transcript.whisperx[8551].text 資料格式批次識別方式資料傳輸方式或其他方式相關事項定制
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transcript.whisperx[8558].text 第一項跟第五項的部分就未有修正
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transcript.whisperx[8560].text 主席
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transcript.whisperx[8561].text 請您再後微
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transcript.whisperx[8569].text 就是我提案的這個第九條的第四項
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transcript.whisperx[8573].text 因為我覺得技術都會一直精進
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transcript.whisperx[8574].text 現在是Summary 2027
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transcript.whisperx[8575].text 線上及時
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transcript.whisperx[8579].text 所以我是保留就是說請參考
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transcript.whisperx[8581].text 但是我的這個說明欄當中是講得很清楚
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transcript.whisperx[8583].text 二維條碼是Summary 2027
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transcript.whisperx[8584].text 所以我覺得應該要導入
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transcript.whisperx[8585].text 現在包括這是第一個說明
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transcript.whisperx[8586].text 第二個說明你們才講
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transcript.whisperx[8587].text 追溯管理資訊系統
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transcript.whisperx[8588].text 採寫四款
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transcript.whisperx[8589].text 這太落伍了吧
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transcript.whisperx[8590].text 包括剛才把我們剛才所有的委員所提供的要求
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transcript.whisperx[8591].text 全部都沒納入
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transcript.whisperx[8592].text 當然主席有做才事
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transcript.whisperx[8593].text 其實我們打剛才委員所要求的部分
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transcript.whisperx[8594].text 第七項跟第七之一等等全部
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transcript.whisperx[8595].text 包括第八項第八條的部分
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transcript.whisperx[8596].text 你們兩個禮拜內要提出來
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transcript.whisperx[8598].text 你們的行政你們櫃部的版本
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transcript.whisperx[8599].text 一二三
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transcript.whisperx[8601].text 一二
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transcript.whisperx[8602].text 三
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transcript.whisperx[8603].text 還有第三就是中央主管機關得以食品業者之類別規模食品安全風險
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transcript.whisperx[8604].text 其實這個王毓民、王偉文都要求了
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transcript.whisperx[8605].text 我們就針對大眾物資而且高風險
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transcript.whisperx[8606].text 那第四個你們才講到說
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transcript.whisperx[8607].text 食品安全的風險管理追溯下架回收
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transcript.whisperx[8609].text 你的回收跟我的回收不太一樣
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transcript.whisperx[8610].text 好那沒關係
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transcript.whisperx[8611].text 我的回收之必要得以整合之等等等
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transcript.whisperx[8612].text 這都還是很限縮
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transcript.whisperx[8613].text 光是這個欄位Sumsize202區一個的欄位
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transcript.whisperx[8614].text 它有四千多項
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transcript.whisperx[8615].text 四千多項
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transcript.whisperx[8616].text 所以自律的公共化所有自律的項目全部東東及時線上的上網
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transcript.whisperx[8617].text 那我覺得這個部分是不是應該要把本席的修正條文也要導入
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transcript.whisperx[8618].text 這我請盡請我們主席能夠才是
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transcript.whisperx[8621].text 就是說我還寫說因為這個技術會與時俱進
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transcript.whisperx[8623].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[8625].text 這個先肯定衛福部有參採蠻多我提出來的一些意見
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transcript.whisperx[8626].text 第九條其實很重要的是我們的追溯系統一定要能互相勾集
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transcript.whisperx[8627].text 在這一次的這個使用有事件其實可以看到事件爆發的時候
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transcript.whisperx[8628].text 它是一批次一批次一批次
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transcript.whisperx[8629].text 就是這樣子陸續發生
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transcript.whisperx[8630].text 我們沒有辦法透過勾集就知道說
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transcript.whisperx[8631].text 事實上它都是來自於同樣的問題的有品跟統潮裡面
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transcript.whisperx[8632].text 前方的起訴書裡面
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transcript.whisperx[8633].text 它特別也指出來
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transcript.whisperx[8634].text 中年315號這個問題有品
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transcript.whisperx[8635].text 它實際產量有128萬9760公斤
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transcript.whisperx[8636].text 但是它只通報了52萬2176公斤
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transcript.whisperx[8637].text 短報了76萬7584公斤
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transcript.whisperx[8638].text 暫時的產量的將近六成
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transcript.whisperx[8639].text 那所以
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transcript.whisperx[8640].text 怎麼樣可以透過檢驗的P4就是可以互相去交叉勾集
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transcript.whisperx[8641].text 這個其實是很重要的
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transcript.whisperx[8642].text 所以在我的版本裡面有特別提到
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transcript.whisperx[8643].text 足資識別產品P4這樣子的一個概念
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transcript.whisperx[8644].text 那現在看到這個修訂的版本有放進去
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transcript.whisperx[8645].text 我覺得這個對於我們的追溯其實是很重要的關鍵
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transcript.whisperx[8646].text 那剛剛這個林委員特別提到
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transcript.whisperx[8647].text 就是怎麼樣善用現在新的這個科技條碼
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transcript.whisperx[8648].text 就是可以更有效的去做一些管理
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transcript.whisperx[8649].text 那我想這一些應該在這一次的修法裡面
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transcript.whisperx[8650].text 我們是一定是要往前進的
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transcript.whisperx[8651].text 然後希望可以未來不是都是靠人工作業
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transcript.whisperx[8652].text 不是靠一批一批這樣子查的整理
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transcript.whisperx[8653].text 打電話問業者的方式
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transcript.whisperx[8654].text 來做這個調查
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transcript.whisperx[8655].text 就是用最古老的方式就是來做這個食安的把關
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transcript.whisperx[8656].text 所以我們可以透過更好的過程很嚴謹的勾集
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transcript.whisperx[8657].text 加上一些新的這個條碼的使用
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transcript.whisperx[8658].text 那我們把它管理好
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transcript.whisperx[8659].text 我想這個是人民希望追求的
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transcript.whisperx[8660].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[8661].text 我們先請王毓民委員
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transcript.whisperx[8662].text 不是 王珍旭委員接下來再請陳建輝委員
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transcript.whisperx[8663].text 謝謝 這是王委員
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transcript.whisperx[8664].text 其實第九條的部分
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transcript.whisperx[8665].text 我可不可以請教一下部長這邊
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transcript.whisperx[8666].text 或者是署長這邊
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transcript.whisperx[8667].text 我們的食品語言本身其實在架構上
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transcript.whisperx[8668].text 應該就是能夠符合剛剛
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transcript.whisperx[8669].text 不管是林委員或是王委員所提出來這些要求
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transcript.whisperx[8670].text 那現在落實上是碰到什麼樣的困境嗎
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transcript.whisperx[8671].text 這些困境如何做有效的解決
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transcript.whisperx[8672].text 或者是讓它與時俱見
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transcript.whisperx[8673].text 這邊是不是也可以請兩位利用這個時間
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transcript.whisperx[8674].text 來跟大家做更進一步的說明 以上
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transcript.whisperx[8675].text 陳建輝委員
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transcript.whisperx[8676].text 謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[8677].text 我的版本很快會進來
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transcript.whisperx[8678].text 但是我的版本跟國民黨團的版本
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transcript.whisperx[8679].text 有部分是重疊的
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transcript.whisperx[8680].text 那在這邊也很感謝署長
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transcript.whisperx[8681].text 剛剛有參考國民黨黨版裡面的部分精神
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transcript.whisperx[8682].text 第九條我想講兩個地方
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transcript.whisperx[8683].text 第一個就是從剛好像第六第七條就講的這個分級
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transcript.whisperx[8684].text 對食品供應鏈有重大影響的幾家業者
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transcript.whisperx[8685].text 每一批次產品交貨後兩個小時內
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transcript.whisperx[8686].text 就要完成申報
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transcript.whisperx[8687].text 規模越大影響就會越廣
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transcript.whisperx[8688].text 要求本來就是要越嚴格
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transcript.whisperx[8689].text 中聯供應福壽福茂泰山這三大品牌
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transcript.whisperx[8690].text 一出事就是上千家
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transcript.whisperx[8691].text 這樣子我們去要求它兩個小時通報
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transcript.whisperx[8692].text 這並不會很過分
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transcript.whisperx[8693].text 至於哪些業者要納進來
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transcript.whisperx[8694].text 要由中央統一來認定
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transcript.whisperx[8695].text 這也是這個之前副市長他們講過的一些意見
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transcript.whisperx[8697].text 所以我想問這個方法是否可行
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transcript.whisperx[8698].text 我會寫在我的版本裡面
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transcript.whisperx[8699].text 第二個就是電子發票來追查產品的流向
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transcript.whisperx[8700].text 因為剛王明文也有說
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transcript.whisperx[8701].text 居然是人工一家一家打電話
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transcript.whisperx[8702].text 可是消費單的流向資料其實財政部手上就有
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transcript.whisperx[8703].text 所以我的版本裡面會寫到說
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transcript.whisperx[8704].text 在這個大型的食安事件
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transcript.whisperx[8705].text 中央主管機關為了執行查核下架回收或通知的票
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transcript.whisperx[8706].text 可以要求財政部提供電子發票的資料
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transcript.whisperx[8707].text 另外會同財政部訂定資料使用的範圍
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transcript.whisperx[8708].text 跟安全維護的辦法
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transcript.whisperx[8709].text 那我看我們黨團的版本也有寫得很詳細
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transcript.whisperx[8710].text 它的意思是說
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transcript.whisperx[8711].text 把上傳的欄位直接寫進條文
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transcript.whisperx[8712].text 比如說產品的名稱、批號、有效的日期
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transcript.whisperx[8713].text 出貨對象、出貨數量
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transcript.whisperx[8714].text 還有所使用的原料來源國供應廠商的名稱
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transcript.whisperx[8715].text 明訂資料格式
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transcript.whisperx[8716].text 跟API的介面規格由中央公告
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transcript.whisperx[8717].text 業者要在一年內來完成系統的介接
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transcript.whisperx[8718].text 哪一年之後就不可以再用人工方式來替代
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transcript.whisperx[8719].text 這樣子看
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transcript.whisperx[8720].text 因為你因為剛剛署長講到電子
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transcript.whisperx[8721].text 所以我不太知道電子你實際要落實的方法
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transcript.whisperx[8722].text 看等一下可不可以描述給委員聽一下
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transcript.whisperx[8723].text 請邱副部委員
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transcript.whisperx[8724].text 謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[8725].text 那我們這裡所提出來的版本
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transcript.whisperx[8726].text 當然一樣就是說這個
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transcript.whisperx[8727].text 剛其實經貿委員跟國民黨的版本這邊有提到
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transcript.whisperx[8728].text 業者就應該在每批次出貨的兩個小時內
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transcript.whisperx[8729].text 電子方式將下列資訊上傳視頻雲
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transcript.whisperx[8730].text 那當然衛福部這邊的版本有提到用電子的方式
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transcript.whisperx[8731].text 那它有1到4款
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transcript.whisperx[8732].text 但我們1到4款的資訊相對完整
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transcript.whisperx[8733].text 好像衛福部沒有全部的採
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transcript.whisperx[8734].text 那例如說有效日期這也是很
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transcript.whisperx[8735].text 產品的有效日期這也是很重要的資訊
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transcript.whisperx[8737].text 那統一編號跟地址不是要在
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transcript.whisperx[8739].text 不是會更能夠鎖定出貨的對象是誰嗎
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transcript.whisperx[8740].text 那第四款就是我們的版本
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transcript.whisperx[8741].text 這裡還有一個公共三個名稱
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transcript.whisperx[8742].text 生產
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transcript.whisperx[8743].text 的一些生產地的一些原料來源資訊
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transcript.whisperx[8744].text 那這些資料也都很重要
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transcript.whisperx[8745].text 很重要
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transcript.whisperx[8746].text 那但是好像衛福部這邊的版本沒有看到
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transcript.whisperx[8747].text 那除此之外
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transcript.whisperx[8752].text 只是它沒有辦法作為唯一的手段
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transcript.whisperx[8753].text 它還要輔助其他的東西
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transcript.whisperx[8754].text 那衛福部的所提出的版本好像把電子發票
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transcript.whisperx[8755].text 如果我沒有看錯是不是都把電子發票
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transcript.whisperx[8756].text 這樣的規定拿掉了
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transcript.whisperx[8757].text 那電子發票
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transcript.whisperx[8759].text 等一下請衛福部來做說明
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transcript.whisperx[8760].text 那就算它沒有追蹤
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transcript.whisperx[8761].text 就是說它的追蹤功能
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transcript.whisperx[8762].text 其實應該至少還是可以鎖定到消費端是誰
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transcript.whisperx[8763].text 那我們這裡提出的版本就是說
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transcript.whisperx[8765].text 如果就是有整合財政部的這些電子發票的資訊
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transcript.whisperx[8767].text 因為就像這是毒油事件
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transcript.whisperx[8768].text 那很多人不是什麼買到7-11的飯糰
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transcript.whisperx[8770].text 他們有沒有買到這些有毒的物質
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transcript.whisperx[8772].text 是不是對消費端它在做一個追蹤
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transcript.whisperx[8773].text 再做一個了解上的折扣的成效
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transcript.whisperx[8774].text 就會打了折扣這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[8775].text 好 那當然這個本來我剛有聽到
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transcript.whisperx[8776].text 本來線型條文是分階段公告使用電子發票
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transcript.whisperx[8777].text 但是好像整個使用電子發票的制度就不見了
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transcript.whisperx[8778].text 那我們的版本本來是還想把分階段公告
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transcript.whisperx[8779].text 四個字五個字改成分階段拿掉保留公告
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transcript.whisperx[8780].text 那就是不要分階段
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transcript.whisperx[8781].text 都要一律使用電子發票
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transcript.whisperx[8782].text 但現在衛福部好像就把這個概念拿掉了
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transcript.whisperx[8783].text 那所以在這邊就叫衛福部謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[8784].text 好 主席
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transcript.whisperx[8785].text 請李巴哈委員
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transcript.whisperx[8786].text 對不起
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transcript.whisperx[8787].text 那個包括我說還不夠完備的部分
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transcript.whisperx[8788].text 我這邊是要求這個原料
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transcript.whisperx[8789].text 生產 製造 加工 物流 銷售 回收
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transcript.whisperx[8790].text 全部都納入追溯的項目
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transcript.whisperx[8791].text 好 我要求在這邊的文字
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transcript.whisperx[8792].text 除了我的原修正動議當中提到
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transcript.whisperx[8793].text 這個GS-1-2027這樣的一個二維條碼的
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transcript.whisperx[8794].text 一個數位制度的導入之外
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transcript.whisperx[8795].text 那我希望這裡面的四千個欄位
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transcript.whisperx[8796].text 那請衛福部務必要好好的這個利用
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transcript.whisperx[8797].text 把所有各個委員所要求的項目都一定要納入
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transcript.whisperx[8798].text 所以你們這邊只寫了第二項當中
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transcript.whisperx[8799].text 只寫了四款
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transcript.whisperx[8800].text 好 包括你後面的第三項
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transcript.whisperx[8801].text 第四項當中的我覺得是不夠的
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transcript.whisperx[8802].text 好 所以我在大範圍的講
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transcript.whisperx[8803].text 務必把原料 生產 製造 加工 物流 銷售 回收
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transcript.whisperx[8804].text 各個這個每個階段的
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transcript.whisperx[8805].text 要要求的 政府要要求的主動欄位
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transcript.whisperx[8806].text 或者是輔助欄位
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transcript.whisperx[8807].text 或者是要要求業者自主
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transcript.whisperx[8808].text 要提供的這個項目全部公共化
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transcript.whisperx[8809].text 好 我這邊以上補充 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[8810].text 好 請行政部門回應
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transcript.whisperx[8812].text 這部分我們一定積極的參採
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transcript.whisperx[8822].text 就是我們自己再評估起來形式上發展起來
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transcript.whisperx[8823].text 並不會有因為這樣子一天的差異或者時間的差異
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transcript.whisperx[8825].text 對於就是說實作上面
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transcript.whisperx[8829].text 退貨換貨修正時間等等
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transcript.whisperx[8835].text 才是最重要的
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transcript.whisperx[8837].text 這個追溯的部分
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transcript.whisperx[8838].text 所以所有的部分
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transcript.whisperx[8841].text 我們其實知道他的
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transcript.whisperx[8842].text 品名的內容可以好幾項
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transcript.whisperx[8843].text 很多東西都在裡面
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transcript.whisperx[8844].text 這是事實
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transcript.whisperx[8846].text 對一張發票一張品名等等的
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transcript.whisperx[8863].text 在時序上面是不是
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transcript.whisperx[8878].text 所謂的非追不可的動物
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transcript.whisperx[8879].text 以電子方式申報
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transcript.whisperx[8881].text 我們在現在的
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transcript.whisperx[8889].text 這個希望能夠從源頭
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transcript.whisperx[8890].text 一直到最末端的銷售都能夠追蹤的到
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transcript.whisperx[8916].text 所以我們是逐步逐步的
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transcript.whisperx[8917].text 才會在這個條文裡面經常會出現
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transcript.whisperx[8922].text 這個非追不可
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transcript.whisperx[8930].text 目前大概碰到的食物是怎樣
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transcript.whisperx[8931].text 好 那就第九條保留
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transcript.whisperx[8934].text 等19位委員的提案
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transcript.whisperx[8945].text 不得互相替代
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transcript.whisperx[8992].text 第十二條之二不予甄定
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transcript.whisperx[9001].text 我們也會按照GHP HACCP
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transcript.whisperx[9002].text 訂定食品安全監測計畫等來規範
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transcript.whisperx[9003].text 所以這部分的已有食品業者專門職業獲得技術證照設置及管理辦法的規範
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transcript.whisperx[9004].text 因此建議也不予甄定
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transcript.whisperx[9005].text 好,第十二條之三不予甄定
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transcript.whisperx[9006].text 先進入第十五條
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transcript.whisperx[9007].text 有關於第十五條
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transcript.whisperx[9008].text 那由葛儒君葛委員、羅庭偉羅委員以及王毅委員裡面特別提到
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transcript.whisperx[9009].text 那為新增的第六項
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transcript.whisperx[9010].text 指出違反第一項情形
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transcript.whisperx[9011].text 中央主管機關應立即整合去公布追蹤追溯
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transcript.whisperx[9012].text 資料以供查詢
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transcript.whisperx[9013].text 並令其銷售品於二十小人的下架
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transcript.whisperx[9014].text 三日內回收等等
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transcript.whisperx[9015].text 那為能參彩的原因
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transcript.whisperx[9016].text 那簡單跟葛委員說明的
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transcript.whisperx[9017].text 那剛才提到的
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transcript.whisperx[9018].text 鑑於食安法第五十二條
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transcript.whisperx[9019].text 一定有公布違規產品相關資訊及下架回收相關規定
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transcript.whisperx[9020].text 並追溯追蹤系統資訊系提供主管機關及時掌握產品資料
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transcript.whisperx[9021].text 涉及廠商的營業秘密
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transcript.whisperx[9022].text 那建議能夠審慎的研議
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transcript.whisperx[9023].text 那對於羅庭偉羅委員
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transcript.whisperx[9024].text 羅庭偉羅委員實現提案
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transcript.whisperx[9025].text 特別以我們的原子塵或者是放射性污染的
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transcript.whisperx[9026].text 超過安全總體標準及停止進口等等的事項
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transcript.whisperx[9027].text 以及對於所有的添加之食品
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transcript.whisperx[9028].text 之乙型受體素等等
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transcript.whisperx[9029].text 因為該項標準的修訂可能涉及WTO SPS的協定
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transcript.whisperx[9030].text 是預告通告通知及徵詢各會員國的程序
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transcript.whisperx[9031].text 考量整個比例原則國際規範
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transcript.whisperx[9032].text 那修法的期程因應審慎
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transcript.whisperx[9033].text 所以建議不以修訂維持現行條文
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transcript.whisperx[9034].text 以上說明
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transcript.whisperx[9035].text 好第15條維持現行條文
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transcript.whisperx[9036].text 沒有那個第15條我們還要再思考一下
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transcript.whisperx[9037].text 所以我們主張保留
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transcript.whisperx[9038].text 那這邊是不是我可以針對
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transcript.whisperx[9040].text 那如果我們在建議條文的最後一項裡面
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transcript.whisperx[9041].text 國內如發聲音食用安全容許殘留乙型受體素
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transcript.whisperx[9042].text 已經保留好
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transcript.whisperx[9043].text 好第15條保留
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transcript.whisperx[9044].text 先進行第17條
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transcript.whisperx[9045].text 17條的部分
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transcript.whisperx[9048].text 特別提到販賣之食品
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transcript.whisperx[9049].text 那我們除了這個食品以外
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transcript.whisperx[9050].text 我們因為現行上面針對食品器具
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transcript.whisperx[9051].text 食品容器或包裝及食品用清潔劑
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transcript.whisperx[9053].text 其標準由中央主管定之以外
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transcript.whisperx[9054].text 那我們前項的應該參與國際兼具公信力之管理規範
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transcript.whisperx[9055].text 並綜合我國風險評估結果定
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transcript.whisperx[9056].text 那其標準應依國際管理趨勢
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transcript.whisperx[9057].text 科學證據及國內監測的結果
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transcript.whisperx[9058].text 定期予以檢討
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transcript.whisperx[9059].text 那我們依照這樣子的方式來做修正
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transcript.whisperx[9060].text 因為現行的食品安法裡面
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transcript.whisperx[9061].text 應遵循特別WTO、SPS的協定
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transcript.whisperx[9063].text 國內監測結果
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transcript.whisperx[9064].text 這個部分因此我們在第二項裡面特別針對的這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[9065].text 是現行的科學跟風險
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transcript.whisperx[9066].text 違本的管理原則法制化
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transcript.whisperx[9067].text 而且彰顯其政
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transcript.whisperx[9068].text 其重要性也感謝委員的提案
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transcript.whisperx[9069].text 以上
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transcript.whisperx[9070].text 好,第17條
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transcript.whisperx[9071].text 照委員賴世寶等17人提案,修正通過
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transcript.whisperx[9072].text 現在進入第21條
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transcript.whisperx[9073].text 針對第21條
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transcript.whisperx[9074].text 哦
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transcript.whisperx[9075].text 民眾黨團裡面提出來的
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transcript.whisperx[9076].text 針對第3項裡面
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transcript.whisperx[9077].text 所謂提到第9條第8項的部分
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transcript.whisperx[9080].text 你再講22條嗎
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transcript.whisperx[9081].text 21條
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transcript.whisperx[9082].text 21條因為不好意思
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transcript.whisperx[9083].text 因為我們有修正然後我們有整頂
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transcript.whisperx[9084].text 所以本來的第5項會變成第8項
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transcript.whisperx[9086].text 所以這個就保留,謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[9087].text 好,謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[9088].text 第21條保留
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transcript.whisperx[9089].text 現在進入第22條
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transcript.whisperx[9090].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[9091].text 針對第22條
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transcript.whisperx[9092].text 由各位委員提出的版本
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transcript.whisperx[9093].text 那本條條文裡面我們做了部分的參彩
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transcript.whisperx[9094].text 首先是針對出境權收入委員所提案裡面
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transcript.whisperx[9095].text 建議食品標示了議題適用國產跟進口的產品
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transcript.whisperx[9096].text 然動物用藥的種類呢
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transcript.whisperx[9097].text 種類許多
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transcript.whisperx[9099].text 否則會反而提供不正確的資訊
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transcript.whisperx[9102].text 強制要求產品僅標示含乙型受體素並不符合國際的規範
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transcript.whisperx[9105].text 那我們以依現行法第22條第一項第10款
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transcript.whisperx[9109].text 盧建英、盧委員特別早也提到的
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transcript.whisperx[9111].text 應標示其原料與產地之行政區域或部落名稱
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transcript.whisperx[9112].text 非原鄉原料不得使用
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transcript.whisperx[9113].text 其中原鄉部落等字樣
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transcript.whisperx[9117].text 以授權中央主管機關得救特定的事項以公告方式來處理
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transcript.whisperx[9118].text 另外對於食品標示及廣告
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transcript.whisperx[9119].text 使用原住民特色相關的宣傳
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transcript.whisperx[9120].text 堂有不實、誇張或一身誤解
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transcript.whisperx[9121].text 就自然違反了現行法第28條第一項
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transcript.whisperx[9122].text 我們進行會議裁罰
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transcript.whisperx[9123].text 所以以上我們對於整個標示的部分
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transcript.whisperx[9124].text 我們在第22條的修正的針對
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transcript.whisperx[9125].text 特別提到
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transcript.whisperx[9126].text 第一項的第六款標示原產地為國產者
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transcript.whisperx[9127].text 因為我們的第六項裡面
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transcript.whisperx[9128].text 第一項的第六款裡面有一個叫做原產地括號國
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transcript.whisperx[9129].text 這部分應標示
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transcript.whisperx[9130].text 如果原產地是國產就是台灣
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transcript.whisperx[9131].text 那應標示其主要的食品原料之原產地
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transcript.whisperx[9132].text 其主要的食品原料的認定標示的方式適用的範圍
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transcript.whisperx[9133].text 其他應遵行的事項我們由中央主管機關定之
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transcript.whisperx[9134].text 簡單的說就是有些主要的原料是處於在台灣的
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transcript.whisperx[9135].text 就是要標在台灣的原料
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transcript.whisperx[9136].text 如果來自於國外的就要標示在國外
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transcript.whisperx[9137].text 所以除了國產實質轉型之後的國產原產地以外
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transcript.whisperx[9138].text 對原料的原產地的標示
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transcript.whisperx[9139].text 如果是所謂國產的部分
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transcript.whisperx[9140].text 要強制的做這樣子的揭露
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transcript.whisperx[9141].text 對第一項第八款第九款之項目方式以及內容
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transcript.whisperx[9142].text 其他注意事項我們會另行
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transcript.whisperx[9143].text 用中央主管機關我們公告來進行
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transcript.whisperx[9144].text 以上說明
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transcript.whisperx[9145].text 我先請人民會回應一下
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transcript.whisperx[9146].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[9147].text 有關設計本會的部分應該是在第十一款
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transcript.whisperx[9148].text 那有因為第22條的部分主要講的是
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transcript.whisperx[9149].text 就食品跟食品原料的相關的標示
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transcript.whisperx[9150].text 所以也非常感謝委員就是有注意到就是
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transcript.whisperx[9151].text 很多就是非原鄉或部落所產所生產的相關的產品
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transcript.whisperx[9152].text 可是卻以這個來做標示
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transcript.whisperx[9153].text 但是這個部分的話我想有幾點建議
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transcript.whisperx[9154].text 就是第一個因為在委員自己所提的
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transcript.whisperx[9155].text 版本的部分的那個第六款
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transcript.whisperx[9156].text 這邊已經有要求就是要做原產地的部分
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transcript.whisperx[9157].text 然後要去做一個標明
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transcript.whisperx[9158].text 那所以如果說假設
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transcript.whisperx[9159].text 這第六款因為也是新增的部分
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transcript.whisperx[9160].text 第九第六款跟第十款
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transcript.whisperx[9161].text 那如果說有通過的話我是建議就是
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transcript.whisperx[9162].text 關於這個部分應該就是放在裡面去
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transcript.whisperx[9163].text 中央主管機關未來要訂定的辦法去做規範即可
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transcript.whisperx[9164].text 那如果說委員認為說這是非常重要的
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transcript.whisperx[9165].text 要做一些就是重點的那個強調的話
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transcript.whisperx[9166].text 我下面有幾個建議
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transcript.whisperx[9167].text 就是第一個因為這邊使用的是原鄉地區
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transcript.whisperx[9168].text 跟原住民族特定部落
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transcript.whisperx[9169].text 那為了就是讓法規的使用的一次性
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transcript.whisperx[9170].text 然後我是建議就是應該可以參考原住民族基本法
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transcript.whisperx[9171].text 第二條第三款跟第四款
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transcript.whisperx[9172].text 他是使用原住民族地區
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transcript.whisperx[9173].text 還有就是部落來去做那個相關文字的一個替換
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transcript.whisperx[9174].text 那另外就是說這邊還有一個叫做
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transcript.whisperx[9176].text 那因為相關的法規
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transcript.whisperx[9177].text 其實並沒有去定義什麼叫做原住民族傳統特色農產品
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transcript.whisperx[9178].text 包含的本法也沒有去做定義
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transcript.whisperx[9179].text 那所以未來如果說把它留在這邊的話
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transcript.whisperx[9180].text 可能會在試用上會有一些不明確性
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transcript.whisperx[9181].text 那如果說假設大家在看到原住民族傳統特色農產品的時候
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transcript.whisperx[9182].text 第一樣應該會認為說是原住民做的
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transcript.whisperx[9183].text 第二個就是他是傳統特色產品
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transcript.whisperx[9184].text 那如果這樣去定義的話可能就是對於目前
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transcript.whisperx[9185].text 主任在做那個相關的那個農特產品的時候會比較狹隘
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transcript.whisperx[9186].text 所以我是建議就是說如果說這一款要保留的話
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transcript.whisperx[9187].text 應該要把可以建議就把原住民族傳統特色農產品
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transcript.whisperx[9188].text 特色農產品的部分予以刪減
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transcript.whisperx[9189].text 那另外就是在所以跟著就是也就是說在第十一條後段
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transcript.whisperx[9190].text 後段部分前段所稱原住民傳統特色農產品的品項
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transcript.whisperx[9191].text 要另外就是訂定那個相關辦法的部分
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transcript.whisperx[9192].text 也就配合那個原住民特色農產品的那個刪減
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transcript.whisperx[9193].text 就建議相關的文字也一併去做刪除
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transcript.whisperx[9194].text 那另外就是在第十一款這部分還有一個說
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transcript.whisperx[9195].text 其核心原料應該明確標示其產地的部分
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transcript.whisperx[9196].text 那我是建議就是因為委員這邊所提的版本的第二項的
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transcript.whisperx[9197].text 嗯
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transcript.whisperx[9198].text 最後一項的部分其實有定義什麼叫做主要原料
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transcript.whisperx[9199].text 那所以我建議如果說要保留這個的話
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transcript.whisperx[9200].text 那其核心原料應該建議就改成主要原料
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transcript.whisperx[9201].text 也比較也比較也比較明確以上
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transcript.whisperx[9202].text 同意解決所有的名稱都同意原住民地區
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transcript.whisperx[9203].text 不用再寫部落或只是原鄉這樣的一個字眼
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transcript.whisperx[9204].text 好謝謝現在請邱惠祿委員
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transcript.whisperx[9205].text 好謝謝主席那關於第二十二條呢
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transcript.whisperx[9206].text 因為中央那個衛福部他在那個第二項的授權條款
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transcript.whisperx[9207].text 相較於我們的因為我們的授權條款其實是比較具體
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transcript.whisperx[9208].text 我們有主要原料的概念還有核心原料的概念
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transcript.whisperx[9209].text 影響到消費者知情權跟選擇權的核心原料
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transcript.whisperx[9210].text 那我們有提到其產地基準
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transcript.whisperx[9211].text 所以我們的授權條款會比較有會比較具體
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transcript.whisperx[9212].text 然後所以我們認為這一款
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transcript.whisperx[9213].text 呃就是雖然衛福部有做一些更動
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transcript.whisperx[9214].text 但我們還是主張我們的版本以上說明謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[9215].text 好請林黛樺委員
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transcript.whisperx[9216].text 好那我的修正動議當中有增加
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transcript.whisperx[9217].text 這個第十項第十款
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transcript.whisperx[9218].text 但你們就是如果真的要加入
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transcript.whisperx[9219].text 我等一下想請這個衛福部表達一下
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transcript.whisperx[9220].text 對本席的修正動議第十款
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transcript.whisperx[9221].text 符合規格之條嘛
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transcript.whisperx[9222].text 好一樣我一樣是訴求這個
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transcript.whisperx[9223].text 這樣的國際標準
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transcript.whisperx[9224].text 這是你在外面食品及食品原料
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transcript.whisperx[9225].text 資容器的外面一定要有這樣的一個QR code
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transcript.whisperx[9226].text 二維條碼的載入
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transcript.whisperx[9227].text 所以我任何的業者如果今天真的發生
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transcript.whisperx[9228].text 這個這個食安事件了
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transcript.whisperx[9229].text 我這個東西已經買回家裡了
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transcript.whisperx[9230].text 我直接上你的QR這個二維條碼
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transcript.whisperx[9231].text 我完全一目了然
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transcript.whisperx[9232].text 我消費者也可以知道你從批號原物料
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transcript.whisperx[9233].text 一直到整個到我消費者手中的東西
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transcript.whisperx[9234].text 這四排項的列管的這個欄位
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transcript.whisperx[9235].text 我消費者都一目了然
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transcript.whisperx[9236].text 所以我要求就是說在這樣的這個包裝外面
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transcript.whisperx[9237].text 也應該要這樣的二維條碼的導入
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transcript.whisperx[9238].text 好謝謝以上
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transcript.whisperx[9239].text 好謝謝前王智旭委員
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transcript.whisperx[9240].text 好謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[9241].text 也很感謝我們
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transcript.whisperx[9242].text 在8月5號的時候
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transcript.whisperx[9243].text 也曾經跟這個部長這邊有討論過
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transcript.whisperx[9244].text 研議如何能夠透過食品標示制度跟世界接軌
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transcript.whisperx[9245].text 並且凸顯原料原產地為臺灣產品
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transcript.whisperx[9246].text 這樣的重要性讓臺灣的
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transcript.whisperx[9247].text 獨有的而且是具有特色的這些農產品
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transcript.whisperx[9248].text 或者相關的產品是可以讓臺灣民眾得到最大的肯認
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transcript.whisperx[9249].text 很謝謝很快就得到貴部的回應
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transcript.whisperx[9250].text 告訴我們說目前在回應的第二條裡面說明
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transcript.whisperx[9251].text 本部的食品藥物管理署正在參考日本
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transcript.whisperx[9252].text 韓國跟國際的一些規範
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transcript.whisperx[9253].text 來研議特定加工食品原產地標示臺灣者
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transcript.whisperx[9254].text 需要標示原料原產地
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transcript.whisperx[9255].text 在做後續的這些程序來辦理
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transcript.whisperx[9256].text 那我們看到這個現有的
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transcript.whisperx[9257].text 內容裡面呢
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transcript.whisperx[9258].text 也的確有看到一些改善可是
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transcript.whisperx[9259].text 感覺好像還可以再更好一些
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transcript.whisperx[9260].text 比如說我們目前看到就是
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transcript.whisperx[9261].text 目前去把這個有關於在第一
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transcript.whisperx[9262].text 第一項第六款的原產地的部分
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transcript.whisperx[9263].text 有更加完整的說明
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transcript.whisperx[9264].text 第一項第六款標示原產地為國產者
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transcript.whisperx[9265].text 應標示其主要食品原料是原產地
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transcript.whisperx[9266].text 後面加上一個國
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transcript.whisperx[9267].text 其主要食品原料的認定標示方式
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transcript.whisperx[9268].text 適用範圍及其應遵行
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transcript.whisperx[9269].text 其他應遵行事項由中央局管機關定制
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transcript.whisperx[9270].text 其實內容還是不夠完整
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transcript.whisperx[9271].text 那我們提供了修正動議給大家做參考
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transcript.whisperx[9272].text 那為什麼會需要
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transcript.whisperx[9273].text 有更嚴謹的規範
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transcript.whisperx[9274].text 比如說如果依照現在的樣子
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transcript.whisperx[9275].text 的這種呈現的話
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transcript.whisperx[9276].text 那花生蛋捲
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transcript.whisperx[9277].text 花生蛋捲到底什麼是主要產品
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transcript.whisperx[9278].text 主要的內涵物
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transcript.whisperx[9279].text 我們就其實是很難了解
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transcript.whisperx[9280].text 所以如果我們針對這個品名本身
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transcript.whisperx[9281].text 就需要做完整規範的話
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transcript.whisperx[9282].text 那其實花生蛋捲裡面有花生
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transcript.whisperx[9283].text 這花生一定就要把這個原產國標示出來
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transcript.whisperx[9284].text 不然你就不知道那個土豆是哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[9285].text 因為花生蛋捲裡面最重要的並不是花生
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transcript.whisperx[9286].text 它可能是米粉或其他的東西
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transcript.whisperx[9287].text 所以你可能會標示到的是
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transcript.whisperx[9288].text 從這個原來的修正裡面
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transcript.whisperx[9289].text 其實就無法去掌握到什麼叫做主要的產品
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transcript.whisperx[9290].text 比如說什麼是蘿蔔糕
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transcript.whisperx[9291].text 這個蘿蔔糕
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transcript.whisperx[9292].text 我們也都想說蘿蔔一定要有知
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transcript.whisperx[9293].text 可是蘿蔔糕裡面可能只有5%是蘿蔔
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transcript.whisperx[9294].text 其他都是米在做的
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transcript.whisperx[9295].text 這個米不曉得從哪裡來
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transcript.whisperx[9296].text 你可能會標米是從
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transcript.whisperx[9297].text 也許是從其他國家來的
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transcript.whisperx[9298].text 就會失去我們希望能夠把這個
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transcript.whisperx[9299].text 所謂原產地這個標示
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transcript.whisperx[9300].text 做得非常清楚的部分
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transcript.whisperx[9301].text 所以請大家參考一下我們的修正動議裡面
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transcript.whisperx[9302].text 針對於第六款的地方原產國
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transcript.whisperx[9303].text 要更詳細的把它增加
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transcript.whisperx[9304].text 先加工食品除產品原產地國之外
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transcript.whisperx[9305].text 應扣除水分食品添加物及加工助劑之後
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transcript.whisperx[9306].text 依照重量或含量的多寡
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transcript.whisperx[9307].text 由高至低標示前三名主要原料之原產地
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transcript.whisperx[9308].text 包括國以品名
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transcript.whisperx[9309].text 品名剛剛就是講花生蛋捲蘿蔔糕為例
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transcript.whisperx[9310].text 商標或圖文等標示名示或暗示含有特定農漁
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transcript.whisperx[9311].text 的原料
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transcript.whisperx[9312].text 實際含有者不受順位或含量的限制
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transcript.whisperx[9313].text 能夠做一個均勻適當標示該原料之原產地
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transcript.whisperx[9314].text 為了要讓這個部分可以更好的執行
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transcript.whisperx[9315].text 我們就增加最後一項
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transcript.whisperx[9316].text 就是第一項第六款主要原料之認定計算方式
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transcript.whisperx[9317].text 標示內容與方式
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transcript.whisperx[9318].text 勾免標示或替代標示之情形及其他應遵行
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transcript.whisperx[9319].text 事項由專用主管機關定定時
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transcript.whisperx[9320].text 我們希望能夠透過這個很完整的修法
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transcript.whisperx[9321].text 來讓原產地這樣的內容
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transcript.whisperx[9322].text 可以更紮實的去顯現出這個具體的需求
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transcript.whisperx[9323].text 以上請大家來支持
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transcript.whisperx[9324].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[9325].text 請各位翻到我這個修正動議當中
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transcript.whisperx[9326].text 後面我附上的一個評估
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transcript.whisperx[9327].text 簡易的評估報告
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transcript.whisperx[9328].text 裡面的這個
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transcript.whisperx[9329].text 十一分之十
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transcript.whisperx[9330].text 為什麼我要求食品跟食品原料之容器子或外包裝
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transcript.whisperx[9331].text 應以中文及通用符號
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transcript.whisperx[9332].text 應該要納入這個二維條碼
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transcript.whisperx[9333].text 食安事件發生時
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transcript.whisperx[9334].text 消費者最核心痛恨的是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[9335].text 資訊不透明跟對個人健康的恐慌
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transcript.whisperx[9336].text 所以要導入G1Sumrise可大幅促進消費信任
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transcript.whisperx[9337].text 三個好處
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transcript.whisperx[9338].text 第一個一秒自我查驗消除焦慮
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transcript.whisperx[9339].text 消費者透過手機相機掃描產品的2D條碼
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transcript.whisperx[9340].text 我不需要下載APP
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transcript.whisperx[9341].text 即可即時顯示該批次安全
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transcript.whisperx[9342].text 或屬於受管制批次
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transcript.whisperx[9343].text 不需要對照新聞繁雜的微小字體
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transcript.whisperx[9344].text 第二個好處
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transcript.whisperx[9345].text 門市自動把關購物安心
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transcript.whisperx[9346].text 即使通路門市尚未完成手動下架
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transcript.whisperx[9347].text 結帳時Post系統掃描2D條碼
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transcript.whisperx[9348].text 會自動攔截過期或受管制的批號
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transcript.whisperx[9349].text 防線由人工記憶提升至系統的剛性控制
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transcript.whisperx[9350].text 第三個在這樣的一個二維條碼
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transcript.whisperx[9351].text 可以在這個食品包裝上呈現的話
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transcript.whisperx[9352].text 第三個好處
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transcript.whisperx[9353].text 資訊透明度提升
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transcript.whisperx[9354].text 自費消費
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transcript.whisperx[9355].text 我掃描同一個2D條碼
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transcript.whisperx[9356].text 易可連結自產銷履歷
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transcript.whisperx[9357].text SGS檢驗報告與過敏原資訊
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transcript.whisperx[9358].text 轉被動接收為主動查核
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transcript.whisperx[9359].text 這個是我在這邊要求
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transcript.whisperx[9360].text 一定要把我的這個銷
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transcript.whisperx[9361].text 在這個修正動議當中
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transcript.whisperx[9362].text 這樣的一個條碼
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transcript.whisperx[9363].text 這樣的一個符合規定之條碼的標示
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transcript.whisperx[9364].text 一定要這個這次修法當中
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transcript.whisperx[9365].text 一定要納入
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transcript.whisperx[9366].text 那是不是請這個衛福部表示一下意見
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