| IVOD_ID |
17667 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17667 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
黨團協商-2026081279 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
立法院朝野黨團協商 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
黨團協商 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院朝野黨團協商 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-12T12:00:44+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-12T14:09:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
02:08:16 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 會議時間 |
2026-08-12T12:30:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院朝野黨團協商（事由：一、協商：「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」16案。二、協商：「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」及「高級中等教育法第二條及第五十八條條文修正草案」15案。三、協商：「專科學校法第四十四條條文修正草案」14案。四、協商：「高級中等教育法第二十條條文修正草案」1案。五、協商：「幼兒教育及照顧法第七條條文修正草案」4案。六、協商：「幼兒教育及照顧法第四十三條及第五十二條條文修正草案」1案。七、協商：「幼兒教育及照顧法部分條文修正草案」1案。八、協商：「幼兒教育及照顧法第三十七條條文修正草案」2案。九、協商：「幼兒教育及照顧法第十一條、第十二條及第三十二條之一條文修正草案」1案。十、協商：「幼兒教育及照顧法第三十條條文修正草案」1案。(協商議案請詳關係文書)） |
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好 現在開始協商會議 |
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本地協商大學法第35條 條文修正草案 |
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等十個主題 |
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稍後按協商通知排序 |
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依序進行協商 |
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協商進行前請簽卸照到場的委員 |
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吳立華委員 蔡順雄委員 |
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2051.43 |
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2054.17 |
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葉人芝委員 羅志強委員 |
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2054.17 |
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機關代表我們就請大家參與 |
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剛剛我們早上宣布的相關名單 |
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主要由我們的教育部部長 |
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鄭英耀 |
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現在進行逐案協商 |
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2072.81 |
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協商時請參閱協商條文對照表及審查報告 |
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禁服二讀提案 關係文書 |
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與會的委員如果修正動議 |
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2078.51 |
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或者是機關建議內容 |
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2081.11 |
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請提出書面資料 |
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2081.11 |
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2084.75 |
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印發現場所有的同仁委員 |
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2084.75 |
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2088.19 |
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都能夠來進行參考討論 |
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2088.19 |
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2089.69 |
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現在來處理 |
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2091.87 |
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主題一 |
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2093.51 |
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教育及文化委員會報告 |
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2093.51 |
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2095.51 |
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併案審查大選法第35條 |
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2095.51 |
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2097.81 |
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條文修正草案等16案 |
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2097.81 |
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2100.11 |
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本案經15年6月11日召開 |
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2100.11 |
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2102.55 |
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本案本院第11屆第5會期 |
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2102.55 |
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2104.79 |
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教育文化委員會第15次 |
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2104.79 |
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2105.75 |
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會議審查完畢 |
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2105.75 |
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2107.85 |
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結果第35條含修正動議 |
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2107.85 |
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2109.55 |
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及附帶決議一案 |
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2109.55 |
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2111.69 |
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保留送院會處理 |
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2111.69 |
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2114.03 |
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並決議需交由黨團協商本案 |
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2114.03 |
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2116.69 |
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第11屆第5期第5會期 |
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2116.69 |
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2118.09 |
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第15次第16次 |
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2118.09 |
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2121.15 |
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將委員林切奇等第17人 |
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2121.15 |
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2123.69 |
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17人擬具的大選法第35條 |
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2123.69 |
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2125.13 |
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條文修正草案等3案 |
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2125.13 |
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2128.69 |
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政府二讀與相關提案 |
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2128.69 |
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2130.37 |
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並案協商 |
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2130.37 |
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2133.57 |
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本院第11屆第5會期第15次 |
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2133.57 |
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2135.33 |
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第16次院會 |
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2135.33 |
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2137.07 |
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將委員郭一琴等16人 |
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2137.07 |
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2138.97 |
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大選法第35條條文修正草案 |
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2138.97 |
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2139.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
等12案 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
2139.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
2141.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
自教育文化委員會抽出 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
2141.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
2143.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
政府二讀與相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
2143.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
2145.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
並案提案協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
2145.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
2146.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
以上個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
2146.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
2147.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
與今日並案協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
2149.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
2151.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
現在請各黨團表示意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
2155.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
2156.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
黨團沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
2156.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
2158.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
請機關代表說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
2160.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
2163.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
召委還有各位委員大家午安 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
2163.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
2166.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
那首先針對學代三法中的 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
2166.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
2168.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
大學法第35條的修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
2168.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
2171.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
經過相關的並案協商之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
2171.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
2175.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
現在是有31案的一個修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
2175.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
2179.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
那上次6月11號的一個審查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
2179.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
2181.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
最主要的版本的一個差異呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
2181.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
2184.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
第一個部分就是有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
2184.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
2185.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
柯居恩曾經會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
2185.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
2188.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
他在免納學費的這一個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
2188.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
2191.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
是提列了所謂的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
2191.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
2194.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
所得稅進額的12%以內者 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
2194.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
2197.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
這是第一個部分免納學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
2197.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
2199.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
那羅昭偉這邊的相關的一個版本呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
2199.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
2202.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
是希望用行政院主計總處 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
2202.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
2204.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
在所謂的五等分 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
2204.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
2207.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
那個家庭所得五等分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
2207.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
2212.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
最低20%的這樣子作為免納學費的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
2213.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
2217.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
那再來就是第三個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
2217.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
2219.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
是主要是由郭育群委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
2219.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
2221.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
相關委員全球保委員還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
2221.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
2224.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
吳立華委員他們所提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
2224.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
2227.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
版本是希望在這一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
2227.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
2229.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
能夠比較及時的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
2229.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
2232.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
整個就是學生的一個經濟的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
2232.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
2235.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
用規範性的原則性的文字來訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
2235.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
2238.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
然後授權那個教育部來訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
2238.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
2239.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
相關執行的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
2239.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
2242.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
那經過我們業務單位的一個評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
2242.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
2244.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
第一個如果用所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
2244.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
2247.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
所得稅進額的12%呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
2247.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
2249.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
因為涵蓋率會達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
2249.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
2253.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
高達91%的家庭都會被納入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
2253.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
2257.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
這個所謂的免學費的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
2257.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
2258.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
會支應400多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
2258.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
2259.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
那等於相對而言 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
2259.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
2263.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
高等教育就某種形式上就有一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
2263.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
2265.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
是屬於涵蓋率非常高 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
2265.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
2266.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
不能精準投放 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
2266.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
2268.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
那第二個部分有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
2268.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
2271.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
那個郭偉這邊提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
2272.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
2272.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
2274.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
2278.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
我們的那個所得五等分最低20% |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
2278.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
2280.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
那如果根據我們現行學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
2280.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
2283.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
103萬的專科以上學生的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
2283.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
2284.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
這樣子20%下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
2284.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
2288.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
大概會增加這個所謂的支出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
2288.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
2291.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
100億元這樣子的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
2291.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
2295.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
那是不是容許我們在參酌 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
2295.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
2298.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
就是說羅昭偉這邊的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
2298.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
2301.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
就是說採用所得稅的五等分 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
2301.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
2304.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
主要是我們用參考的性質 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
2304.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
2305.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
來訂定免學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
2305.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
2307.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
為什麼用參考的性質 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
2307.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
2309.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
第一個行政院主計總處 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
2309.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
2310.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
在公佈這一個所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
2310.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
2312.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
所得稅的這個五等分 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
2312.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
2314.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
所得五等分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
2314.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
2317.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
是屬於家訪式調查式 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
2317.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
2319.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
他大概調查16000多戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
2319.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
2321.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
所以他不是全面性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
2321.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
2323.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
一個所得的一個參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
2323.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
2325.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
所以說在計算上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
2325.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
2328.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
可能會有所謂的時程落後 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
2328.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
2329.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
或者是說沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
2329.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
2332.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
即時回應的這樣的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
2332.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
2333.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
所以是不是建議召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
2333.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
2335.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
或者是各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
2335.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
2338.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
可以在羅昭偉的版本上面呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
2338.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
2342.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
是以政府參考家庭所得五等分 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
2342.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
2345.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
及其他財政調查進況之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
2345.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
2347.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
可以免納學費的這樣的一個情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
2347.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
2348.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
好 不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
2348.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
2350.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
因為我們審議的過程在加速 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
2350.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
2353.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
所以我們就不用再跟大家分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
2353.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
2356.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
各個委員的一個提案版本了 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
2356.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
2357.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
就直接教育部告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
2357.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
2359.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
你覺得哪一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
2359.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
2361.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
大家可以透過你的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
2361.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
2362.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
來凝聚一個共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
2362.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
2363.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
我們採納哪一個人的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
2363.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
2366.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
那剛剛教育部的建議是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
2368.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
2369.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
採用我的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
2369.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
2371.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
是用這樣子的一個五等分 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
2372.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
2373.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
的建議 對嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
2373.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
2376.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
那大概會評估大概一百多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
2378.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
2380.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
請問其他委員有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
2383.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
2386.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
你說用我的版本是入法嘛 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
2389.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
2392.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
是入法還是在立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
2392.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
2396.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
在原本委員的文字當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
2396.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
2397.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
我們寫說 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
2397.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
2400.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
因為原本委員是直接採用 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
2400.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
2402.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
五等分的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
2402.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
2404.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
那我們現在建議是不是可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
2404.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
2407.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
經政府參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
2407.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
2410.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
那個所得五等分最低20% |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
2410.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
2414.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
以及相關資料後免納學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
2414.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
2415.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
這樣的一個文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
2415.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
2418.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
所以你又在我的文字之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
2418.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
2420.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
又再加了兩個字參考就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
2421.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
2423.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
好 但沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
2424.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
2425.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
2426.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
2427.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
2427.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
2428.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
你拿我的文字 |
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2428.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
2430.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
然後跟我講說只參考 |
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2430.04 |
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2432.08 |
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我是直接就要用我的法 |
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2432.08 |
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2433.96 |
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或者是你直接說不要用我的法 |
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2434.84 |
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那你拿我的文字 |
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2434.84 |
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2436.24 |
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又說要參考一下 |
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2436.24 |
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2438.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
這樣等於沒有強制性 |
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2438.24 |
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2441.64 |
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那就我沒辦法解釋 |
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2441.64 |
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2442.28 |
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我是要提 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
2442.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2443.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
吳立華委員請說發言 |
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2443.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
2444.72 |
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好 謝謝主席 |
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2444.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
2445.52 |
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是這樣子的 |
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2445.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
2448.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
我這邊是想要做修正動議 |
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2448.24 |
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2449.56 |
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那最主要的原因 |
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2449.56 |
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2452.52 |
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因為我覺得大家的一致的目的 |
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2452.52 |
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2455.6 |
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都是希望針對需要的這些學生 |
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2455.6 |
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2457.28 |
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免納學費 |
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2457.28 |
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2460.88 |
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但是我看了一下數據之後 |
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2460.88 |
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2463.6 |
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成如剛才教育部所說的 |
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2463.6 |
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2466.72 |
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就是採這種12% |
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2466.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2469.12 |
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可能會變成它的涵瓜性 |
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2469.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
2471.76 |
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已經變成高教義務教育了 |
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2471.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
2473.36 |
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又或者是說 |
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2473.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2476.64 |
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用這種所謂的五分法20%的 |
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2476.64 |
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2480.48 |
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那我覺得最大的困擾是在於 |
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2480.48 |
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2484.4 |
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可能沒有辦法去精準的了解 |
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2484.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2488.32 |
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哪一些學生是可以來做申請 |
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2488.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2490.28 |
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可以免納學費 |
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2490.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2491.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
所以我才希望說 |
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2491.88 |
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2496.88 |
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有沒有可能就是就這個新增第二項 |
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2496.88 |
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2499 |
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就是針對家庭所的五等分 |
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2499 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2502.84 |
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最低20%的這個免繳納學費 |
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2502.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2505 |
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然後新增第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
2505 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2508.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
就是訂定免納學費的經費來源 |
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2508.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2509.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
跟請撥的方式 |
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2509.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
2513.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
那再來就是原來的這個第二項 |
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2513.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
2515.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
調整到第四項 |
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2515.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2517.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
然後修正它的後段 |
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2517.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2520.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
說貸款利息由教育部編列預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
2520.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2522.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
全額補助 |
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2522.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2525.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
還有利息補助的辦法由教育部定支 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
2525.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2527.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
那最後就是希望 |
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2527.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2529.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
為了使規範更加的明確 |
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2529.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2533.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
符合學生他實際的貸款需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
2533.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2535.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
那至於那個修正第四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
2535.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
2537 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
我看大家應該沒什麼意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
2537 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2540.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
就是資訊設備及網路通訊使用費 |
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2540.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2542.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
那明定已經開始償還 |
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2542.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2543.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
就學貸款的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2543.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2546.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
政府提供還款的協助措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
2546.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2549.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
減輕他貸款人的還款壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
2549.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2551.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
讓他更加的明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2551.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2552.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
所以這個部分 |
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2552.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2555.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
我是想說落實教育的平權 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2555.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2558.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
避免學生他因為家庭的所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2558.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2561 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
或者他其他經濟不利的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2561 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2562.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
影響到他 |
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2562.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2566.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
像我們原住民的學生就很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2566.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2568.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
像113年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2568.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2571.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
跟一般大專學生的出債學歷落差 |
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2571.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2573.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
是38.3% |
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2573.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2575.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
但是新的一年度 |
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2575.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2578.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
114年去年剛剛公布出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2578.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2581.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
竟然又漲1%39.6% |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2581.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2584.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
所以我覺得這個經濟因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2584.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2587.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
確實是我們要幫助弱勢學生排除 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2587.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2589.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
所以這一條我覺得很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2589.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2590.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
雖然我沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2590.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2593.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
但是我希望讓他能夠更明確化 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2593.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2596.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
不要讓學校不知道要怎麼幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2596.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2598.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
讓他們能夠得到及時的幫助 |
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2598.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2600.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
所以希望做這樣的一個修正動議 |
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2600.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2601.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2601.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2603.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
我們先來麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2603.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2605.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
我們這個武力華委員的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2605.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2607.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
是不是能夠呈現給大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
2607.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2609.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
先印給我們看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2609.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2609.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
2609.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2612.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
但是我也希望真的民進黨的黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2612.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2614.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
民眾黨的黨團同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2614.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2617.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
我想今天葉元之委員羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2617.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2618.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
來陪著我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2618.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2619.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
我們大家都很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2619.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2622.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
第345條大學法的一個修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2622.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2624.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
我們更希望在就讀大學 |
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2624.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2627.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
以及大學以上的經濟弱勢學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2627.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2629.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
其家庭所得5等分 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2629.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2631.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
最低20%免納學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2631.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2634.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
能夠清楚明確的入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2634.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2637.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
而且我清楚明確的寫到 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2637.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2641.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
這沒有具有中華民國國籍者不得適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2641.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2643.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
就是清楚要保障說 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2643.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2645.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
我國所有的孩子 |
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2645.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2649.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
在就學過程當中能夠被接住 |
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2649.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2652.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
我們在這個就讀大學的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2652.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2653.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
大家都知道學代 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2653.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2656.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
畢竟還是讓所有的大學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2656.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2657.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
有一定的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2657.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2661.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
除了社會他並沒有辦法輕裝上陣 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2661.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2664.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
要進入社會又有許多的一些門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
2664.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
自己又自帶了一些學代的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
2668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2670.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
我本身自己也是這個早上 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2671.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2674.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
工作晚上讀書的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2674.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2677.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
那我想我跟所有的大學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2677.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2680.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
多數都有這樣子的一個擔憂 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2680.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2682.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
以及承擔的這個壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
2682.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2686.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
也希望說能夠獲得今天更多的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
2686.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2689.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
所以很感謝其他委員提出的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2689.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2690.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
那今天有修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
2690.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2692.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
我們盡量的凝聚共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
2692.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2694.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
但是剛剛就教育部跟我講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2694.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2697.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
如果只是僅供參考的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2697.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2698.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
我會有擔憂 |
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2698.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2700.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
也希望說教育部能夠體諒 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
2700.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2702.55 |
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站在學生的立場 |
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2702.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2705.11 |
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站在這些經濟弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2705.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2705.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
國人的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2705.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2710.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
我必須要更有魄力的去完成這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2710.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2712.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
那我相信在座的武力華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2712.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2714.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
跟著我們一起在這邊坐著談 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
2714.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2716.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
蔡處長委員在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
2716.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2717.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
還有羅志強 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2717.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2717.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
葉元志委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2717.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2719.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
大家就是要把事情解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2719.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2721.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
所以我希望事情不要模擬兩可 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2721.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2723.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
讓這些孩子能夠真正被接觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2723.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2726.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
他們也會能夠有機會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2726.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2729.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
除了社會能夠更加的輕裝上陣 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2729.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2731.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
因應整個社會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2731.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2732.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
不管是高通膨 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
2732.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2735.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
高物價能夠有所的支撐 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
2735.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2736.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
2736.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2737.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
我希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
2737.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2739.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
待會我們現在凝聚一下共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2739.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2740.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
我們是不是先 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2741.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2742.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
2742.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
2744.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
看一下你的修正動力 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
2745.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2745.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2746.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2747.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
武力華委員可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
2747.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2748.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
2748.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2749.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
2749.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
2749.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
3015.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
3016.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
好 正常開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
3020.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
3023.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
好 剛剛休息討論的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
3023.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
3026.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
那我再唸一次這個條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
3026.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
3028.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
那由教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
3028.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
3030.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
還有委員大家一起討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
3041.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
3044.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
查調等經濟情形後 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
3044.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
3045.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
免納學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
3045.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
3047.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
但未具有中華民國國籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
3047.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
3049.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
還有戶籍者不適用資 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
3051.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
3054.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
那你們有增加這一個參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
3054.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
3056.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
那我很簡單的幾個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
3056.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
3058.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
就是請教育部要再確認給我回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
3058.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
3059.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
3059.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
3060.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
在整個調查的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
3060.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
3063.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
你認為這樣子的方式是最能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
3063.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
3065.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
達到公平性 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
3065.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
3067.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
調查完整度 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
3067.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
3069.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
然後以及真的能夠接觸到 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
3069.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
3072.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
後二十等份所有的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
3072.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
3074.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
那你也要大概估算 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
3075.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
3076.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
是不是增加大概一百多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
3078.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
3079.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
請你回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
3079.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
3079.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
3082.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
3085.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
跟宅委各位委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
3085.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
3088.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
我們目前可以參照的一個做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
3088.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
3090.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
是教育部有個弱勢住學計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
3090.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
3095.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
裡面規定30萬 40萬 70萬 90萬以下的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
3095.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
3096.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
我們會給他住學金 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
3096.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
3100.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
我們就是根據財稅資料中心的所得資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
3100.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
3102.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
前一年報稅的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
3102.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
3103.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
我們去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
3103.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
3104.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
他是不是連所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
3104.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
3105.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
那這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
3105.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
3106.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
他連所得是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
3106.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
3109.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
那這個所得是所謂的所 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
3109.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
3110.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
那個所得的總額 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
3110.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
3112.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
那這個部分我們就可以查掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
3112.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
3116.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
但是主計總處的最低五等份 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
3116.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
3117.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
家庭的20% |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
3117.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
3118.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
他的所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
3118.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
3120.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
第一個是剛剛部長提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
3120.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
3122.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
他是用所謂的訪談的 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
3122.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
3124.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
他不是根據財稅資料中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
3124.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
3125.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
3125.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
3127.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
因為他是可支配所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
3127.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
3129.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
他又不是所得總額 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
3129.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
3131.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
我們沒有辦法透過財稅資料中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
3131.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
3133.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
去查到可支配所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
3133.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
3134.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
那第三個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
3134.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
3138.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
我們這邊為什麼再加上其他的一個財稅查 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
3138.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
3139.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
查證的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
3139.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
3142.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
主要是因為我們在做弱勢助學的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
3142.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
3143.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
曾經也發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
3143.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
3146.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
有些家庭的所得總額是低的 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
3146.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
3148.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
但是他可能有很多不動產 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
3148.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
3149.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
3149.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
3150.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
或是利息收入等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
3150.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
3153.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
這個也都不會納到所謂的可支配所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
3153.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
3155.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
所以這一塊我們是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
3155.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
3158.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
在委員希望投放的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
3158.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
3160.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
我們精準照顧到 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
3160.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
3165.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
而且又是比較符合我們現場可以去操作查掉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
3165.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
3166.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
3166.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
3168.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
好 經過教育部說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
3168.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
3170.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
我們要確保孩子能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
3170.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
3173.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
真正弱勢到的有能夠被接住 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
3173.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
3177.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
那也會增加相對應的一個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
3177.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
3179.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
那教育部這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
3179.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
3180.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
部長可以回應一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
3180.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
3181.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
你可以認同嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
3183.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
3184.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
謝謝委員關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
3184.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
3187.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
我們確實認同剛才召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
3187.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
3194.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
或者所有在場所有的委員的一些基本的一個觀點價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
3194.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
3196.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
就是說我們怎麼樣去接住 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
3196.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
3198.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
這些經濟不利 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
3198.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
3201.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
這個最後面的20%的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
3201.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
3203.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
真正的讓他免納協會能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
3203.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
3206.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
沒有掛例的在大學接受教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
3206.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
3207.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
我想這個是肯定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
3207.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
3208.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
我們肯定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
3208.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
3209.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
可以 全力支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
3210.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
3213.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
我們相關的修正動議的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
3213.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
3215.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
已經呈現在我們的螢幕上 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
3215.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
3217.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
基本上剛剛也都討論過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
3217.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
3219.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
那吳立華委員的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
3219.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
3220.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
我們大家一起簽一簽 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
3220.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
3222.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
把這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
3222.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
3223.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
把它給完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
3223.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
3224.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
3230.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
3230.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
3231.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
3233.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
現在大學法這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
3233.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
3237.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
我們照協商的內容通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
3240.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
3241.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
附帶決議案第三組條 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
3241.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
3243.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
由委員提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
3243.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
3245.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
郭育勤委員等人提出附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
3245.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
3246.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
由委員要說明嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
3247.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
3248.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
3248.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
3249.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
機關代表要說明嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
3254.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
3255.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
麻煩你們說一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
3260.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
3262.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
郭育勤委員的附帶提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
3262.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
3264.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
郭委員的附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
3264.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
3267.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
就是有提到說要參考這一個五等份 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
3267.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
3269.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
然後精準的投放 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
3269.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
3271.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
那這個原則上跟剛才討論的精神相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
3271.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
3274.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
也是跟我的版本一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
3274.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
3276.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
好 我們就照案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
3276.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
3279.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
好 繼續下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
3279.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
3281.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
協商的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
3281.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
3281.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
主題二 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
3284.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
3285.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
教育及文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
3285.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
3287.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
合併審查高級中等教育法第58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
3287.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
3288.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
條文修正等十一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
3288.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
3290.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
本案經115年6月11 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
3290.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
3294.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
召開第十一屆第五會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
3294.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
3295.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
第15次會議審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
3295.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
3297.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
審查結果第58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
3297.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
3298.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
含修正動議保留受院會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
3299.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
3301.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
並決議需交由黨團協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
3302.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
3305.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
本院第11屆第五會期第15次第17次院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
3306.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
3308.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
將委員萬美齡等17人 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
3308.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
3312.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
擬具高級中等第58條修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
3312.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
3314.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
等4案禁服惡毒等 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
3314.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
3316.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
與相關提案協商處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
3317.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
3327.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
本 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
3318.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
3321 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
本院第五會期第十五次院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
3322.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
3324.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
委員郭怡琼等十六人 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
3324.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
3326.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
3327.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
3329.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
及台灣民眾黨團擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
3329.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
3334.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案等七案 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
3334.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
3339.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
第十六次院會將委員郭國文 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
3339.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
3340.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
十八人 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
3340.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
3343.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
3344.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
3344.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
等三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
3344.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
3346.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
自教育文化委員會抽出進一步二讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
3346.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
3349.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
與相關提案一起協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
3349.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
3349.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
3350.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
3352.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
各案與今日並案協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
3352.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
3354.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
協商條文兩條我們先從第二條開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
3354.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
3356.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
現在請黨團代表表示意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
3364.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
3365.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
好委員沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
3365.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
3368.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
我們請教育部表達意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
3368.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
3369.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
我們就精準簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
3370.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
3372.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
那直接就是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
3372.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
3374.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
教育部可不可以去配合委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
3375.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
3379.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
好這個部分的話因為我們在高級中等教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
3379.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
3381.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
第36條跟第56條 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
3381.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
3385.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
對於那個免學費跟就學貸款已經有 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
3385.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
3386.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
相關的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
3386.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
3390.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
那待會我們也會進行58條的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
3391.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
3392.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
那這個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
3393.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
3397.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
我們是希望能夠維持原來的那個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
3397.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
3400.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
那因為就是對學生補助的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
3401.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
3404.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
如果說這邊只寫學生補助的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
3404.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
3404.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
3405.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
3408.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
學生因為他本身的那個特性的不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
3409.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
3412.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
也對那個學生的補助會規定在 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
3412.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
3413.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
特殊教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
3413.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
3415.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
社會救助法 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
3415.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
3418.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
還有原住民教育法等等不同的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
3419.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
3420.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
母法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
3420.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
3424.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
所以是希望這裡不用再重複規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
3424.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
3426.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
那希望能夠維持原條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
3426.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
3429.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
好第二條跟第58條維持原條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
3430.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
3430.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
3433.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
3435.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
好先問你第二條維持原條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
3435.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
3435.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
3436.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
3436.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
3437.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
3439.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
吳立華委員有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
3441.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
3441.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
3442.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
3443.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
3443.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
3444.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
第二條沒意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
3444.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
3445.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
陳總委有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
3448.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
3450.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
院子委員有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
3453.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
3454.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
羅強委員有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
3457.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
3458.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
3459.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
3460.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
第二條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
3463.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
3464.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
台灣民眾黨沒有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
3468.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
3468.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
好沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
3471.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
3471.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
3472.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
3473.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
我有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
3473.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
3474.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
我有版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
3476.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
3477.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
我是第58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
3477.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
3477.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
3479.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
3480.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
沒意見了 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
3482.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
3483.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
OK好 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
3484.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
3484.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
3485.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
3487.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
維持原條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
3509.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
3511.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
所以教育部可以再給我一個明確的答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
3512.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
3514.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
維持原條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
3515.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
3516.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
你可以照顧到這些孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
3517.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
3518.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
請明確回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
3519.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
3519.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
3521.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
3522.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
不好意思聲音可以大聲一點嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
3522.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
3522.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
3524.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
3526.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
現在已經是免學費了 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
3527.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
3529.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
那有關那個貸款的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
3529.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
3530.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
待會兒我們58條會 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
3530.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
3531.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
會講到我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
3531.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
3532.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
3532.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
3537.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
那至於就是相關的學生補助的措施的那個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
3537.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
3539.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
因為它會規範在 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
3539.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
3540.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
因為學生特質的不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
3540.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
3543.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
如果是特教的就會放在特殊教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
3543.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
3546.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
那如果是原民的就會放在原住民教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
3546.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
3548.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
那如果是因家長因素的 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
3548.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
3550.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
經濟不利會放在社會救助法 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
3550.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
3554.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
所以他們各有相關的協助措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
3554.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
3555.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
所以在第二條這邊呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
3556.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
3557.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
建議維持原條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
3557.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
3560.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
好我們這一個就不修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
3561.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
3563.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
維持原條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
3563.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
3563.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
3565.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
3566.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
第58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
3566.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
3567.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
請吳立華委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
3570.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
3571.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
3571.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
3574.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
因為第58條我也是也有版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
3575.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
3578.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
但是我是希望至少要保留三件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
3578.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
3579.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
第一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
3579.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
3580.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
數位學習的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
3581.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
3582.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
還款的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
3582.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
3585.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
還有原住民組共同來訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
3585.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
3588.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
那因為8月1號剛剛施行一個新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
3588.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
3589.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
就學代管辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
3590.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
3591.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
那其實也已經把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
3591.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
3594.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
電腦及網路通訊費用放進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
3594.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
3596.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
所以今天把它寫進母法呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
3597.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
3598.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
就是把行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
3598.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
3601.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
已經承認的基本學習需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
3601.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
3602.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
提升到法律保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
3603.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
3605.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
那至於有的部分版本是把 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
3606.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
3608.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
150萬元寫進母法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
3608.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
3610.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
那我的理解是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
3610.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
3611.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
要擴大照顧了 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
3612.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
3614.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
但是我會比較傾向不要把金額寫死 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
3615.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
3618.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
因為也許三五年之後就不適合 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
3618.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
3620.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
所以我寧可要求教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
3620.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
3623.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
能夠依法定期檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
3623.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
3626.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
然後明定考量物價居住成本數位需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
3626.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
3629.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
以及家庭的撫養負擔等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
3629.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
3632.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
那最後就是我的版本是 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
3632.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
3635.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
有一個屬於自己原住民的部分的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
3635.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
3639.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
就是涉及到原住民族學生的資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
3639.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
3641.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
額度還有還款的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
3641.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
3644.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
希望由教育部會同原民會共同訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
3645.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
3648.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
那原住民族學生面對的就學成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
3648.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
3650.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
結構本來就不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
3650.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
3651.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
所以我希望大家可以同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
3652.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
3653.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
把我這個部分一定要留下 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
3654.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
3655.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
因為我要再次重申 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
3655.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
3658.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
113年學年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
3658.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
3661.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
我們的高等教育的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
3661.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
3664.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
竟然跟一般的大學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
3664.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
3667.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
在學率落差到38.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
3667.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
3670.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
然後111年又增加到39.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
3670.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
3672.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
我覺得非常的痛心 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
3672.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
3674.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
所以希望這個部分大家共同支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
3675.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
3675.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
3676.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
3681.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
好 所以您是要具體的文字是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
3681.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
3684.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
就直接保留你的那個文字內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
3685.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
3686.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
3691.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
3693.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
尊重委員 請發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
3696.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
3699.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
好 那麼這一條我表達一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
3699.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
3701.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
那個本黨的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
3702.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
3704.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
那因為這一個攜帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
3704.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
3705.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
它的一個資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
3705.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
3708.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
還有家庭所得的一個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
3708.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
3711.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
大致是跟那個吳委員差不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
3711.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
3714.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
但是我們在這裡也是要再重申 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
3714.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
3716.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
就是說必須要申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
3717.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
3719.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
門檻這個要定期 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
3719.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3721.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
定期來檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
3721.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3725.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
然後來讓這個制度能夠更完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
3725.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3726.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
3727.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3730.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
好 我的版本跟大家報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
3730.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3732.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
雖然我是寫說150萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
3733 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3734.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
但是我認同可以就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
3734.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3738 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
逐年的來做一個追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
3738.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3739.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
來訂定標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3739.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3742.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
因為畢竟我們不可能每一年都去修這個法 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
3742.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3745.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
但是這個主要的文字上的呈現 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
3745.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
3750.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
是不是請委員能夠修正出更好的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3750.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3753.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
那我是建議這一條就先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
3754.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3755.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
好吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
3756.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
3759.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
好 本條條例我們就是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3766.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
3767.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
建議文字要趕快出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3767.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3768.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
如果沒有的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3768.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3770.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
我們到時候就是送院會直接投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
3771.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3772.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
3773.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3774.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
3775.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3776.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
補充宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
3778.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3780.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
我們處理剛剛前一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
3781.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3783.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
就是第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
3783.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3784.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
已經有結論了 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
3784.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3786.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
宣讀協商的結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3786.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3789.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
協商的結論我簡單跟大家講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
3789.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3791.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
剛剛簽名的那一張 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3799.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3800.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
不是不是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3802.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3805.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
好 第三十五條照協商內容通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
3805.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3806.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
我們後面附贈 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
3806.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
3809.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
通過附帶決議共一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
3809.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
3811.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
那個也麻煩協商代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
3811.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3812.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
有沒有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
3813.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
3813.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
沒有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
3814.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
3816.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
通過請各位委員來簽名 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
3816.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3817.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
好 再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
3817.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
3818.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
我們繼續回到第58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
3819.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
3820.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
第58條就是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3820.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
3821.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
下一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
3824.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3825 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
3825.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
3826.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
好 宣讀協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
3827.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
3829.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
宣布協商的結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
3830.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
3831.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
第58條保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3833.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3834.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
好 打印就這麼認為好 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
3834.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3835.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
我們繼續往後 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3837.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3838.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
保留 對 保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
3839.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3840.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
第二條不予修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
3840.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3842.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
維持現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
3842.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3843.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
第58條保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
3843.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3844.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
好 我們繼續往下推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
3846.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3846.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
3847.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3848.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
沒有 好 繼續往下 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
3850.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3851.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
主題三 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
3851.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3852.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
教育文化委員會報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3852.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
3857.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
並按審查專科學校法第四十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
3857.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3859.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
調修正等十六案 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3859.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3861.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
那有委員一樣抽金富二讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
3861.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3863.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
並按協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
3863.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3864.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
協商條文有兩條 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3864.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3865.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
我們先從第四十條開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3866.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3867.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
請各位黨團表示意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3879.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3880.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
拿一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3882.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3883.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
我們就並按審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3883.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3884.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
下一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
3884.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3885.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
下一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
3887.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3887.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
3889.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3890.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
專科學校法第四十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
3891.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3891.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
第四十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
3891.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
3894.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
我們先從第四十四條開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
3894.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
3896.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
請委員提出意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
3897.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
3898.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
委員沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
3898.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
3900.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
我們請教育部提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
3900.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
3901.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
3903.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
3904.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
直接說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
3905.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
3906.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
能夠符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
3906.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
3907.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
什麼樣的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
3907.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
3907.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
3907.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
3908.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
跟章偉報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
3908.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
3910.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
因為我們剛才第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
3910.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
3911.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
已經討論大學法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
3911.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
3914.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
所以是不是在基於那個基礎上 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
3914.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
3916.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
我們這邊參照配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
3916.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
3917.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
就增加一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
3919.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
3921.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
五專後兩年跟二專的 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
3921.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
3925.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
我們基本上就是以大學法 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
3925.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
3926.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
剛剛第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
3927.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
3928.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
來的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
3928.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
3930.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
來修專科法 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
3930.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
3932.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
那一樣把專科的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
3933.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
3935.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
一樣比照剛剛大學法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
3935.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
3937.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
五等份先討 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
3937.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
3937.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
學法 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
3937.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
3939.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
後二十%來做照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
3940.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
3940.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
這樣子對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
3941.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
3942.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
那我們就先修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
3943.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
3944.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
修正動議先送出 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
3946.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
3947.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
五專的後兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
3947.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
3949.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
但是我們還有二計 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
3949.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
3951.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
所以二專的這個故事 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
3951.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
3953.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
請修正文字出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
3967.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
3969.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
我們文字已經呈現在螢幕上 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
3969.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
3972.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
基本上精神都與大學法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
3972.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
3973.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
3981.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
3982.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
我要直接免納 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
3982.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
3983.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
請把德拿掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
3988.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
3989.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
要不要加個音 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
3990.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
3991.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
加個音啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
3993.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
3995.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
免納學費有加個音有差嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
3995.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
3996.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
多送我一個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
3997.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
3997.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
寫個音 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
4002.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
4003.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
4003.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
4004.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
好有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
4005.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
4007.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
沒有意見我們就照修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
4013.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
4014.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
我們應給學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
4015.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
4015.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
免納學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
4016.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
4017.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
所以這邊用免納學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
4018.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
4019.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
就是學生主體 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
4019.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
4019.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
就是學生主體 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
4021.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
4023.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
三組 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
4026.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
4028.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
你要記得要免納學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
4028.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
4030.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
不要到時候我回來又找你 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
4031.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
4033.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
下一個會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
4034.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
4036.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
就可能原汁當招尾 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
4037.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
4037.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
原汁有可能又叫我要當 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
4038.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
4039.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
不要再讓我為這件事情再繼續了 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
4040.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
4040.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
好拜託拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
4042.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
4044.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
好有沒有意見沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
4044.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
4046.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
照修正文字通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
4046.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
4049.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
照協商內容的部分來通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
4051.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
4052.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
福袋決議一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
4052.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
4054.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
我們就武力華委員福袋決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
4055.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
4056.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
4057.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
4058.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
給大家簽名謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
4060.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
4062.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
好照協商內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
4065.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
4067.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
就照案通過協商內容照單 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
4067.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
4069.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
福袋決議照案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
4069.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
4072.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
因為基本上也是與大學法精神是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
4072.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
4073.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
對嗎武力華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
4074.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
4075.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
對好 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
4079.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
4081.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
協商取得共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
4082.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
4086.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
那我們就照宣讀協商的結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
4087.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
4091.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
請問各位委員就剛剛我們在呈現螢幕上的這些文字內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
4092.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
4092.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
由一 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
4093.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
4096.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
沒有意義請各位委員簽署協商結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
4099.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
4101.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
接下來我們處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
4102.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
4103.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
第四十 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
4104.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
4106.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
第 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
4106.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
4107.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
沒有沒有他不是有兩條 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
4107.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
4108.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
四十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
4111.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
4113.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
好請教一步直接說明好嗎謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
4115.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
4117.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
跟我們因為我們這 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
4117.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
4121.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
第一那一次一百零三年是配合十二年國教有納免學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
4121.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
4124.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
好啊除此之外這次又有助學措施等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
4124.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
4129.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
所以為了有所區隔就把適應系的那個日期做一個補充說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
4129.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
4130.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
4130.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
4131.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
所以你的文字是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
4132.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
4137.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
就是除了一百零三年六月十八日修正公佈的四十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
4138.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
4139.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
是一百零三年施行外 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
4140.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
4144.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
其他都自公就是本次修正的嘛就是自本次公佈施行日施行 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
4145.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
4147.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
因為那個十二年國教免學費在一百零三年已經實施了 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
4148.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
4152.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
就是你透過每一個年度的寫清楚然後讓他們來公佈執行嗎好 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
4153.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
4154.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
4155.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
4159.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
沒有意義照協商的內容來通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
4160.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
4163.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
好第四四條的結論是照修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
4165 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
4173 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
我們來協商內容通過第四十九條照協商的內容通過以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
4173.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
4174.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
4175.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
4176.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
沒有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
4177 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
4178 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
4178.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
4182.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
也一樣一案我們就通過有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
4182.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
4183.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
沒有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
4185.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
4190.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
OK好那我們就請各位委員簽署協商結論謝謝我們繼續推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
4196.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
4197.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
嗯好 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
4199.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
4201.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
好接下來第四主題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
4202.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
4204.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
教育文化委員會併案審查客製人 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
4205.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
4209.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
吳佩奕羅廷維高級重點教育法第二十條條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
4209.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
4210.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
4212.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
4214.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
我們第二十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
4215.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
4220.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
現在要送院會處理並決議教育黨的協商所以第二十條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
4228.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
4229.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
會下屬同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
4231.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
4233.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
院會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
4233.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
4235.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
有說過上次還糾結這麼久 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
4235.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
4236.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
上次不就為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
4236.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
4237.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
對對啊他現在狗屁了 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
4241.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
4244.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
好現在有委員客製人附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
4244.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
4247.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
希望維持原條文但是附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
4247.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
4248.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
有沒有委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
4251.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
4252.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
委員都無意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
4252.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
4255.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
我們照協商的內容喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
4255.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
4257.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
就是以本條 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
4257.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
4260.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
維持原條文但不予修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
4260.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
4262.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
但是有附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
4262.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
4264.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
附帶決議一案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
4265.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
4267.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
有意 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
4267.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
4268.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
沒有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
4268.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
4269.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
好我們繼續往下 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
4270.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
4273.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
請各位委員簽署剛剛協商的結論喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
4273.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
4274.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
麻煩大家謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
4277.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
4279.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
我們進入黨團協商都非常順利喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
4279.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
4281.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
那繼續加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
4283.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
4286.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
教育及文化委員會社會福利及衛生環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
4286.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
4288.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
兩個委員會必報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
4288.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
4291.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
並按審查誘惡教育及照顧法第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
4291.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
4293.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
條文修正草案等15案 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
4293.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
4295.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
本案經115年6月18日 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
4295.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
4298.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
召開本院第11屆第5會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
4300.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
4302.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
文化社會福利衛生委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
4303.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
4305.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
第一次聯席審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
4305.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
4307.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
審查結果第七條保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
4307.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
4309.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
受院會處理並決議交由黨團協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
4311.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
4314.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
那也有委員禁服二讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
4314.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
4318.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
與相關的提案並按審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
4318.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
4320.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
請委員表達意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
4323.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
4325.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
我們現在是可以針對自己的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
4325.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
4326.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
誘教法的版本開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
4326.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
4328.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
請教育部再表達意見對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
4328.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
4330.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
誘教法的部分嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
4330.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
4333.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
基本上他也可以直接告訴你答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
4333.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
4334.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
然後你再來決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
4334.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
4338.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
那我們是不是先請教育部先跟大家講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
4338.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
4340.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
你有沒有什麼建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
4341.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
4343.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
讓大家可以凝聚共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
4346.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
4348.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
召委及各位委員大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
4348.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
4352.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
那主要是在第七條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
4352.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
4354.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
那第七條目前有18個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
4354.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
4358.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
那其中18個版本裡面有13個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
4358.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
4359.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
是每月1.5萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
4359.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
4361.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
3個版本是每月2萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
4361.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
4364.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
那有一個版本是公用差額的80% |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
4364.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
4366.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
那另外還有3個版本是針對育兒津貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
4366.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
4368.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
那這樣子的話加起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
4368.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
4370.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
就是說以各個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
4370.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
4371.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
1到5 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
4371.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
4373.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
那個對不起你繼續講 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
4373.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
4375.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
好1.5到2萬之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
4375.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
4378.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
那每一年政府部門所要增加的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
4378.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
4381.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
大概是423億到612億 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
4381.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
4385.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
而且這個支出是每一年持續性的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
4385.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
4386.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
那我們在7月的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
4386.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
4388.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
召開教育局處長會議的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
4388.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
4389.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
也有把這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
4389.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
4392.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
跟22縣市的教育局處長進行討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
4392.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
4393.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
那大家認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
4393.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
4396.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
因為這個費用支出實在是太龐大了 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
4396.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
4398.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
對整體教育業務的推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
4398.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
4401.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
應該會產生一定的排擠效應 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
4401.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
4403.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
所以是非常的拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
4403.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
4406.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
也希望是不是對於提高這個補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
4406.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
4408.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
跟育兒津貼的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
4408.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
4411.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
各局處長們希望能夠在現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
4411.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
4414.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
持續擴大評價教保服務為主軸 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
4414.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
4417.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
那透過擴大評價教保服務提供服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
4417.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
4419.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
同時也減輕家長的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
4419.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
4423.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
那我們也持續的在收集各界的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
4423.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
4426.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
那各界的意見也給我們一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
4426.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
4428.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
也提出了一些擔憂 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
4428.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
4431.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
那我們這邊大概做一下簡要的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
4431.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
4434.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
各界擔憂當中包含的認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
4434.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
4435.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
這比較高額的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
4435.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
4438.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
可能會衝擊幼教的結構 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
4438.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
4439.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
雖然委員其實蠻希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
4439.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
4442.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
是給家長的一個選擇權 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
4442.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
4445.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
但是實際上家長還是交給原方 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
4445.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
4447.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
那對於改善整體幼教結構 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
4447.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
4449.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
逐步供好的這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
4449.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
4452.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
感覺還是比較辛苦 |
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所以家長其實期待 |
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4454.37 |
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是政府擴大公共化的教保服務 |
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他們除了考量到費用之外 |
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其實也很在意的是教保品質 |
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那同時也認為公共化的教保磁場 |
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比較可以提供教保服務人員 |
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適當的待遇跟這些福利措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
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那今年我們確實也增加了 |
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將近4000個班 |
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4479.37 |
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那也創造了7 8000人的就業機會 |
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4479.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
4481.37 |
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後面我們也會精準的對焦 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
4481.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
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那108年其實各縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
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也啟動了總公共的合作機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
4486.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
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那這機制裡面有要求 |
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4488.37 |
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4490.37 |
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同時也要求他們調高 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
4490.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
4493.37 |
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教保服務人員每月的薪資基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
4493.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
4494.37 |
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那這些資訊也透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
4494.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
4497.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
政府的資訊平台做公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
4497.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
4501.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
那也透過各界比較綿密的管控跟監督 |
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4501.37 |
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4502.37 |
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那再來就是 |
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4502.37 |
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4505.37 |
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如果我們調高了這個補助之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
4505.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
4508.37 |
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那大家也擔心可能會產生一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
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就是因為一般的私立幼兒園 |
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其實導向的是比較自由市場的機制 |
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| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
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那如果他們的補助調高 |
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| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
4520.37 |
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那麼可能會導致總公幼兒園會選擇退場 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
4520.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
4522.37 |
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捨棄原來的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
4522.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
4525.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
那恢復他一般私立幼兒園的屬性 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
4525.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
4527.37 |
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那主軸就是因為比較自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
4527.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
4529.37 |
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他可以做他自己想要做的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
4529.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
4532.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
那對於我們近年逐步調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
4532.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
4535.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
以及引導總公共調高薪資的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
4535.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
4537.37 |
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可能會因為他們的退出 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
4540.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
那這樣子的話對師生都不是太理想 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
4540.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
4541.37 |
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那再來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
4541.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
4543.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
如果以高額的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
4543.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
4546.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
可能也會產生一個狀況是 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
4546.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
4550.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
那麼就會設比較多的私立幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
4550.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
4553.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
那對政府近年努力在推動公共化 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
4553.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
4555.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
似乎又回到原點 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
4555.37 |
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4557.37 |
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好像對於整個幼教的結構 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
4557.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
4559.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
是會產生比較深遠的影響喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
4559.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
4562.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
那同時各界也提醒我們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
4562.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
4565.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
早年八九十年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
4565.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
4568.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
當時一開始就做學前補助的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
4568.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
4571.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
那這些師長們也提醒我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
4571.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
4574.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
那當時高額的補助其實伴隨著 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
4574.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
4576.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
也是私立業界的調高收費 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
4576.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
4578.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
所以到最後家長不一定是 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
4578.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
4580.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
最直接的受益者喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
4580.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
4582.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
另外還有一個很重要的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
4583.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
4585.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
那我們現在也有三個委員版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
4585.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
4587.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
對於提高育兒津貼到兩萬喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
4587.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
4589.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
那教育現場他們的觀察 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
4589.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
4591.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
也提醒我們一點喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
4591.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
4594.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
那也有可能在家長的部分會導致喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
4594.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
4597.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
把津貼當成是一個家用或其他用途 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
4597.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
4600.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
那會延後孩子來接受學前教育喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
4600.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
4602.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
或者是有一些家長可能把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
4602.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
4605.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
比較高額的補助那麼拿到 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
4605.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
4608.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
讓孩子去參與其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
4608.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
4609.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
可能不是那麼適合孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
4609.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
4611.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
全力學習的這個場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
4611.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
4613.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
那譬如其他的補習場所啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
4613.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
4615.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
等等的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
4615.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
4617.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
那我們這邊各界也看到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
4617.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
4621.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
那事實上近年從107年開始喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
4621.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
4623.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
我們整體的入園率已經從 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
4623.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
4626.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
61%提高到87% |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
4626.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
4630.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
兩歲也從107年的16%調高到54% |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
4630.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
4632.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
那國內外的研究也告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
4632.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
4634.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
其實孩子提前入園 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
4634.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
4637.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
對於未來的人格發展各方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
4637.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
4638.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
是有正向的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
4638.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
4640.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
所以大家對於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
4640.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
4642.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
提高這樣的費用也是有一些擔憂 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
4642.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
4644.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
所以在行政部門也收集了 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
4644.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
4646.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
各縣市教育局處的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
4646.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
4648.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
以及最近回饋給我們的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
4648.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
4650.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
學者專家跟教育現場的意見喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
4650.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
4654.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
是能夠希望拜託能夠維持原來的條文喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
4654.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
4657.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
那不管是現在的津貼或是就學補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
4657.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
4660.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
那後續政府部門可以試著 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
4660.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
4663.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
政府財政以及社會經濟的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
4663.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
4665.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
在適時的那一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
4665.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
4667.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
在行政規則的調整方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
4667.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
4668.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
去做相關的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
4668.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
4670.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
那這大概是第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
4670.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
4672.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
那至於後面還有一些條文喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
4672.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
4674.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
這些條文包含了就是有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
4674.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
4676.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
收費的收費啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
4676.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
4679.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
跟譬如說42條52條 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
4679.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
4681.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
43條52條 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
4681.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
4683.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
這邊有關收費跟罰則的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
4683.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
4685.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
那因為整個右照法裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
4685.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
4688.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
本來就有收費調整的這個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
4688.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
4691.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
那麼公開也是現在都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
4691.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
4693.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
行政部門的政府資訊平台上 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
4693.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
4695.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
所有的員都必須揭露 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
4695.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
4699.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
所以我們會建議43跟52能夠維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
4699.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
4701.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
現行的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
4703.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
4705.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
再來是27條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
4705.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
4707.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
那這是單一文字的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
4707.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
4710.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
目前執行上好像也沒有困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
4710.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
4714.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
那另外就是有關23條的部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
4714.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
4715.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
等一下等一下對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
4715.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
4717.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
我們一樣一樣來好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
4717.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
4719.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
4720.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
4722.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
所以你27條沒意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
4724.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
4726.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
4727.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
4729.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
你剛有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
4729.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
4731.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
是文字調整而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
4731.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
4733.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
好來陳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
4735.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
4737.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
我們就先第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
4737.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
4738.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
好那謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
4738.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
4740.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
我們就根據主席的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
4740.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
4742.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
先就第七條好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
4742.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
4744.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
其實上一次我記得我們有開過公聽會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
4744.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
4746.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
我還是要再一次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
4746.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
4748.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
我也想要跟教育部對一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
4748.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
4750.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
我現在手上所收集到的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
4750.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
4751.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
到底是不是正確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
4751.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
4753.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
也要拜託提案的委員可以作為參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
4753.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
4757.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
目前中央現行花在所謂右托的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
4757.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
4760.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
公用的部分我們每個月只需要讓家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
4760.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
4762.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
繳到一千塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
4762.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
4764.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
其他全部都是政府補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
4764.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
4765.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
非營利的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
4765.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
4768.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
我們讓家長只需要繳兩千塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
4768.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
4769.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
其他政府補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
4769.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
4772.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
準公用的部分家長只需要繳三千 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
4772.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
4774.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
其他政府補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
4774.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
4776.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
現在要爭取的是私用 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
4776.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
4780.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
但如果家長現在選擇讓小孩念私用的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
4780.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
4782.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
育兒津貼的名義 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
4782.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
4784.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
他們會拿到五千 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
4784.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
4785.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
第二胎六千 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
4785.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
4786.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
第三胎七千 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
4786.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
4787.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
以上我先說對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
4787.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
4788.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
對好 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
4788.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
4790.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
所以如果這個數字是正確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
4790.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
4791.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
我們現在回來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
4792.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
4795.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
因為拿到這些補助的幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
4795.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
4796.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
不論是公用 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
4796.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
4798.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
非營利或是準公用 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
4798.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
4799.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
他們都必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
4799.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
4801.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
一在調整老師的心思上 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
4801.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
4803.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
要符合政府設立的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
4803.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
4805.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
二人力比 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
4805.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
4806.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
師生比 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
4806.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
4808.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
也要符合政府的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
4808.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
4810.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
所以他才可以拿到政府的這些錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
4810.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
4812.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
但是現在我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
4812.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
4815.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
所有委員提案的版本裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
4815.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
4818.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
說要直接把錢補到私幼去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
4818.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
4820.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
我現在發現一個很大的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
4820.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
4822.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
就是我們給錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
4822.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
4824.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
看起來說是給家長選擇權 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
4824.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
4826.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
但卻沒有辦法對這些私幼造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
4826.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
4829.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
任何法規上的限制跟規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
4829.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
4831.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
沒有規範沒有限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
4831.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
4833.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
所以有沒有可能當私幼 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
4833.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
4834.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
拿到這筆錢之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
4834.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
4836.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
他左手拿政府的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
4836.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
4838.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
但是他卻在右手 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
4838.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
4839.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
在員方這邊跟家長這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
4839.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
4840.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
他沒有降學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
4840.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
4843.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
所以他等於還是拿一樣多的學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
4843.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
4845.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
然後他又拿到政府的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
4845.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
4846.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
我覺得這個非常的荒謬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
4846.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
4849.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
過去所有政府所建立的補助機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
4849.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
4852.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
都必須要有相關的規範跟限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
4852.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
4854.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
那私幼如果他現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
4854.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
4855.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
完全屬於自由市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
4855.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
4857.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
他又不願意讓自己變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
4857.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
4858.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
所謂的準公幼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
4858.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
4860.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
那我實在是不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
4860.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
4862.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
到底我們這樣是在保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
4862.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
4863.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
家長的選擇權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
4863.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
4866.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
還是只是圖利了這些私幼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
4866.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
4867.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
甚至我要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
4867.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
4870.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
把錢全部流入私幼業者的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
4870.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
4871.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
這樣真的是對的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
4871.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
4873.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
那現在我手上還有另外一個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
4873.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
4874.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
也要跟教育部對一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
4874.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
4876.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
我們目前中央政府也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
4876.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
4878.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
地方政府也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
4878.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
4880.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
針對零到二歲的托育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
4880.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
4883.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
或者是二到六歲的幼照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
4883.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
4885.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
目前這幾年統計下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
4885.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
4888.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
我們發給幼兒園這些就學補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
4888.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
4890.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
或者是給家長的育兒今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
4890.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
4892.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
已經超過3477億了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
4892.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
4894.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
這個是我手上的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
4894.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
4895.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
如果是這樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
4895.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
4897.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
也就是說我們確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
4897.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
4899.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
在讓園方變得更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
4899.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
4900.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
師生筆變得更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
4900.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
4901.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
設備變得更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
4901.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
4903.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
老師的薪資變得更好的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
4903.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
4905.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
家長又少花錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
4905.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
4906.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
其實政府已經負擔了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
4906.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
4907.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
補助了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
4907.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
4908.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
那如果我們未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
4908.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
4910.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
要把錢再給到私幼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
4910.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
4911.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
我不確定我們政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
4911.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
4912.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
到底還有沒有權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
4912.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
4913.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
有沒有能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
4913.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
4914.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
有沒有法治可以規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
4914.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
4916.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
拿了錢的這些私幼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
4916.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
4918.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
如果他不改善師生筆呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
4918.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
4920.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
如果他不改善教學設備呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
4920.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
4922.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
如果他對於老師的薪資調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
4922.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
4923.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
也不願意調整呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
4923.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
4924.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
那我真的不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
4924.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
4926.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
這樣的公平正義到底為何 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
4926.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
4927.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
這完全不是公平正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
4927.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
4929.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
所以我想還是要表達出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
4929.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
4932.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
我對這件事情修法的態度 |
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4932.35 |
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4933.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
4935.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4936.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
還有委員有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
4937.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
4938.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
參眾委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
4944.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
4947.88 |
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好 那有關於這一條呢 |
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4947.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
4949.88 |
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我在做本檔的一個意思 |
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4949.88 |
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4952.88 |
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就是說那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
4954.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
4956.37 |
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公立的 非營利的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
4956.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
4957.37 |
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還有準公共的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
4957.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4960.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
都有做一個補助 |
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4960.37 |
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4961.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
那能夠 |
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4961.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4966.37 |
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就是對於免納協會 雜會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4966.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4968.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
還有中央主管機關 |
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4968.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4970.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
一43條的第一項 |
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4970.37 |
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4973.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
規定有所謂的材料會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
4973.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4975.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
活動會 午餐會 |
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4975.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4976.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
還有等薪會 |
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4976.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4977.37 |
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這一個地方呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
4977.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4978.37 |
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我們希望都能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4978.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4980.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
把它納進去寫清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4980.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4981.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
要不然的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4981.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4982.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
只有補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4982.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4983.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
那這些項目呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4983.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4984.37 |
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就有點籠統 |
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4984.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4985.37 |
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在這裡呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4985.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4986.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
做一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4992.03 |
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4993.03 |
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謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4993.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4994.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
謝謝 |
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4994.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4995.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
4999.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
5002.81 |
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好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
5002.81 |
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5004.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
這個部分我沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
5004.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
5005.81 |
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我沒有提案版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
5005.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
5007.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
但是我在質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
5007.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
5010.81 |
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應該表達過很多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
5010.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
5012.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
其實我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
5012.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
5014.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
到底對政府的負擔多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
5014.81 |
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5017.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
倒不是我考量事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
5017.81 |
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5019.81 |
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最重要的一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
5019.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
5021.81 |
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但是我考量到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
5021.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
5023.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
都是屬於我們這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
5023.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
5025.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
弱勢偏鄉的孩童 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
5025.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
5027.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
因為我質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
5027.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
5029.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
已經表達過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
5029.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
5031.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
就是育兒今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
5031.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
5033.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
那未來還會有成長今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
5033.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
5034.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
5034.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
5036.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
但是我還是希望大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
5036.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
5038.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
在做教育的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
5038.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
5039.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
還是要顧及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
5039.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
5042.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
他可能衍生的一些後遺症 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
5042.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
5043.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
因為我已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
5043.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
5046.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
接到太多的陳情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
5046.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
5049.81 |
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就是很多地方的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
5049.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
5052.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
他反而沒有去上學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
5053.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
5056.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
因為有一些真正需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
5056.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
5058.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
反而他的家長是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
5058.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
5060.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
沒有辦法讓這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
5060.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
5062.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
政府給的美意到他的身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
5064.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
5066.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
現在越來越多的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
5066.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
5067.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
都是逼不得已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
5067.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
5069.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
最後六歲再進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
5069.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
5071.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
因為家長會希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
5071.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
5074.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
把這個部分可以留著 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
5074.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
5076.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
這件事情也很多的幼兒園的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
5076.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
5079.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
老師有跟我反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
5079.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
5081.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
所以這個部分才是我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
5081.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
5083.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
最擔心害怕的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
5083.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
5085.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
那當然這可能是少數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
5085.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
5087.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
但是他確實是會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
5087.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
5089.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
這樣的後遺症存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
5089.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
5091.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
那再來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
5091.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
5092.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
剛才我也有聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
5092.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
5094.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
教育部的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
5094.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
5096.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
7月份的教育局處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
5096.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
5099.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
我們得到的一個地方意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
5099.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
5101.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
就是地方政府可能也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
5101.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
5103.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
覺得有點頭大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
5103.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
5105.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
那我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
5105.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
5106.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
也是要列入考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
5106.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
5108.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
那第三個我考量到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
5108.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
5110.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
我也聽到很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
5110.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
5113.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
準公共的他們都說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
5113.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
5114.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
如果真的這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
5114.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
5116.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
他們就變私幼好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
5116.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
5118.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
我也聽到很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
5118.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
5119.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
那再來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
5119.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
5121.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
我也有去問私幼的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
5121.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
5123.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
那私幼的老師是無感的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
5123.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
5125.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
因為這個可能只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
5125.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
5126.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
業者的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
5126.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
5128.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
那他們反而擔憂的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
5128.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
5130.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
剛才教育部有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
5130.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
5132.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
就是因為我們其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
5132.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
5134.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
之前政府都是為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
5134.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
5136.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
朝向的政策目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
5136.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
5137.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
是擴大公共化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
5137.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
5139.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
那這個是有點算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
5139.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
5141.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
怕這些準公共的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
5141.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
5142.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
又跑回去的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
5142.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
5144.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
有點走倒退的路 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
5144.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
5146.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
但是對私幼的老師來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
5146.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
5148.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
他們這幾年感受到的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
5148.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
5151.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
這樣子公共化擴大的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
5151.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
5152.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
其實對他們的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
5152.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
5154.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
保障是穩定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
5154.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
5157.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
那如果再又回到私幼的市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
5157.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
5160.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
大家應該也理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
5160.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
5164.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
可能學費還是會繼續往上漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
5164.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
5165.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
那他們的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
5165.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
5168.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
也不見得會受到很大的保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
5168.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
5171.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
所以這個部分我考量的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
5171.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
5174.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
會不會我們偏鄉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
5174.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
5175.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
或者弱勢的家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
5175.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
5177.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
他們反而在這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
5177.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
5179.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
會受到最大的衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
5179.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
5181.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
成為最大的受害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
5181.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
5183.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
所以我還是希望大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
5183.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
5185.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
能夠停下來先想一想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
5185.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
5186.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
5186.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
5187.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
5187.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
5189.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
不然要不要就先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
5191.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
5192.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
5194.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
5196.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
我尊重大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
5196.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
5198.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
現在你們有共識保留就保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
5198.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
5199.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
但是讓我講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
5200.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
5201.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
好吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
5202.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
5203.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
5207.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
5209.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
咳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
5211.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
5214.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
好 那有鑑於我講坦白的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
5214.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
5216.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
今天協商大家氣氛這麼好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
5216.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
5217.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
我們講清楚說明白 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
5218.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
5221.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
剛剛陳培育委員所提到的這些論述 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
5222.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
5223.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
我覺得要尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
5225.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
5227.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
我覺得可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
5228.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
5230.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
所以我也拜託教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
5231.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
5232.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
5232.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
5235.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
當然我們將這一個公托公用免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
5236.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
5237.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
思托思誘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
5237.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
5239.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
補助家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
5239.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
5240.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
5240.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
5242.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
來討論的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
5242.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
5243.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
我們要增加一些機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
5243.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
5245.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
像剛剛培育委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
5245.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
5246.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
吳立華委員所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
5247.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
5248.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
這個私生筆的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
5249.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
5251.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
思誘有沒有被管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
5251.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
5257.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
應該要朝我們能夠有利於學生跟家長的部分來發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
5257.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
5259.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
要有一些配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
5259.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
5262.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
才可以加入這樣子的一個機制裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
5262.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
5263.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
我覺得要尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
5263.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
5264.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
5266.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
5268.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
但是我永遠都還記得吳立華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
5268.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
5270.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
在上一次質詢說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
5270.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
5271.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
5270.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
5271.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
發一個照片 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
5271.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
5273.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
去拜訪一個小朋友的家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
5274.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
5276.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
大年初一很有心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
5276.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
5278.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
了解到狀況是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
5278.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
5279.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
雖然有育兒津貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
5279.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
5282.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
但是不一定孩子真的能夠去讀書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
5282.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
5283.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
因為家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
5284.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
5285.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
有其困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
5286.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
5288.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
所以勢必對於孩子的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
5288.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
5292.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
我們還是有一些需要加油的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
5292.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
5294.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
我們能不能綜合參彩這些意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
5294.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
5298.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
來有更好的修正文字出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
5300.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
5302.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
把這一個所謂的私生筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
5302.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
5303.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
不能惡意漲價 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
5303.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
5305.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
規範業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
5305.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
5309.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
然後朝向更利於整個學生跟家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
5311.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
5313.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
方向來邁進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
5313.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
5314.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
這是我們今天協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
5314.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
5316.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
希望大家帶回去再好好想想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
5316.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
5317.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
下一次協商的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
5317.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
5318.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
伸出文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
5318.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
5320.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
將私生筆顧好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
5320.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
5321.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
將規範顧好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
5321.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
5323.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
真正補助用在孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
5323.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
5325.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
那又能夠照顧到弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
5326.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
5327.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
這個我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
5328.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
5330.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
一定是我們大家的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
5331.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
5332.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
有人會說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
5332.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
5334.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
施幼會不會全面的瓦解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
5334.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
5336.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
準公幼或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
5336.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
5338.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
這部分我們也要防範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
5338.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
5339.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
但我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
5339.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
5341.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
有更多的家長是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
5341.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
5343.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
他的生活周邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
5344.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
5345.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
可能沒有準公幼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
5345.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
5346.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
就只有施幼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
5348.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
5349.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
5349.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
5350.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
只有公幼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
5351.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
5353.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
那很多的家長都是以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
5353.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
5354.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
我能夠方便 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
5355.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
5356.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
讓孩子讀書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
5356.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
5357.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
我又能夠接送 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
5357.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
5358.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
甚至是方便我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
5358.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
5360.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
上下班接送 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
5360.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
5361.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
來考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
5361.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
5364.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
所以能夠增加更多的選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
5364.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
5366.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
這也是我們在幫助他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
5366.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
5369.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
在整個生活負擔能夠減輕的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
5369.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
5370.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
所以今天開宗明義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
5370.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
5371.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
我要跟大家報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
5371.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
5372.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
公托公幼免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
5372.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
5374.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
施托師又是補助家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
5374.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
5376.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
但是要加強防範機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
5376.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
5378.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
今天是我們聽到大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
5378.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
5379.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
各個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
5379.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
5380.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
有了一個共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
5380.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
5382.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
那今天我們先保留的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
5382.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
5383.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
希望下一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
5383.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
5384.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
能夠伸出更好的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
5384.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
5385.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
大家共同來邁進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
5385.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
5386.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
5388.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
5389.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
好主席我們確認一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
5389.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
5391.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
你要要求教育部伸出文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
5391.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
5393.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
還是委員們有提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
5393.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
5394.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
我們大家一起努力吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
5394.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
5395.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
反正就是正常協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
5395.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
5396.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
所以你是要要求教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
5396.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
5397.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
大家一起加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
5397.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
5399.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
我不能夠規範你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
5399.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
5400.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
一定要伸出文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
5400.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
5401.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
但是我建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
5401.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
5402.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
可以的話下次協商的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
5402.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
5404.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
我還會願意再開協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
5404.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
5406.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
我沒有說一定要馬上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
5406.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
5407.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
就是投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
5407.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
5408.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
那大家加油嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
5408.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
5410.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
好那另外一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
5410.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
5411.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
我跟主席確認一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
5411.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
5412.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
你剛剛說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
5412.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
5415.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
你有聽懂我跟立華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
5415.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
5416.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
要求的那些規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
5416.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
5418.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
補助 師生筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
5418.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
5421.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
你覺得這司優可以比較辦理的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
5421.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
5423.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
有這些規範的可能性的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
5423.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
5424.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
可以討論嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
5424.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
5425.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
你剛剛是這樣說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
5425.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
5426.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
討論討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
5426.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
5427.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
對你的意思是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
5427.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
5428.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
那這樣我就請教一部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
5428.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
5429.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
再回去研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
5429.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
5431.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
如果按照剛剛羅庭偉委員說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
5431.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
5432.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
把人力筆也規範進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
5432.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
5434.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
把老師的薪資也規範進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
5434.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
5436.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
設施設備這些都規範進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
5436.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
5438.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
他不就變準公優了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
5438.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
5439.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
如果是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
5439.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
5440.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
你可以準公優擴大2.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
5440.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
5441.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
我也沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
5441.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
5442.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
好啦所以你們聽懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
5442.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
5444.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
立華委員也在點頭嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
5444.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
5445.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
所以我現在不懂的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
5445.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
5446.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
如果他家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
5446.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
5448.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
我家好了不要講他家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
5448.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
5450.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
我家隔壁真的就只有一個司優 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
5450.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
5453.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
然後他聽了羅庭偉委員的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
5453.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
5455.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
所以他也想爭取這筆錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
5455.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
5457.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
他也想要讓他們旁邊的小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
5457.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
5459.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
只需要繳準公優的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
5459.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
5460.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
繳到三千塊就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
5460.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
5462.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
然後讓小孩進來這裡讀書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
5462.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
5464.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
然後也符合法規規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
5464.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
5465.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
然後也拿了政府的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
5465.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
5467.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
那他不就瞬間變準公優了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
5467.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
5468.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
請教一部回去研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
5468.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
5469.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
應該是這樣吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
5469.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
5471.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
如果他按照羅庭偉委員的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
5471.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
5472.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
全部按照規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
5472.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
5474.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
也拿了政府的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
5474.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
5475.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
也讓小孩入學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
5475.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
5476.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
他不就準公優 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
5476.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
5477.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
5477.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
5478.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
5478.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
5481.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
我歡迎你們拿文字來說服我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
5481.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
5484.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
然後來推翻我們原本的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
5484.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
5485.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
都沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
5485.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
5487.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
但是如果這樣子的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
5487.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
5489.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
能夠提升到2.0 3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
5489.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
5492.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
擴大那入司優當準公優 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
5492.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
5494.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
擴大補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
5494.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
5495.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
擴大補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
5495.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
5499.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
能夠讓這個部分真正的有效性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
5499.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
5501.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
能夠把你剛剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
5501.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
5502.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
有到70 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
5503.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
5503.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得不得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
5504.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
5506.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
七成提升到多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
5507.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
5509.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
你剛剛說原本七成提升到多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
5510.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
5510.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
5513.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
5514.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
87% |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
5514.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
5517.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
那如果你有辦法提高到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
5517.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
5519.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
比如說95% |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
5519.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
5521.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
我們有所推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
5521.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
5523.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
今天委員會不是不能討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
5523.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
5525.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
而是不要告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
5525.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
5527.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
維持原案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
5527.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
5528.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
進步可以很少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
5528.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
5530.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
但不能沒有進步 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
5530.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
5532.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
所以我希望的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
5532.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
5534.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
你要推翻我們的論調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
5534.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
5536.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
請拿出更好的版本告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
5537.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
5539.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
讓我們能夠說服自己說服國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
5539.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
5541.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
吳立華委員有一見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
5541.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
5543.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
我的說法這樣可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
5542.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
5543.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
5543.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
5544.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
5544.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
5546.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
那持案保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
5546.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
5546.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
5546.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
5548.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
擇其 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
5548.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
5549.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
再進行協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
5549.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
5550.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
反正我們都會列入公報記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
5550.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
5551.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
那我再補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
5551.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
5553.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
因為我真的自己來自教育基層 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
5553.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
5554.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
我也請來學校當過老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
5554.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
5557.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
我要說私立學校它存在這個市場上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
5557.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
5560.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
它確實是提供了家長教育選擇權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
5560.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
5563.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
因為私立學校的很多教學課程設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
5563.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
5564.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
私生筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
5564.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
5567.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
或者是它要讓學生去參加什麼樣的競賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
5567.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
5570.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
它的法規範其實是跟我們公立學校是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
5570.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
5573.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
所以確實提高到95% |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
5573.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
5575.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
這件事情也許是OECD |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
5575.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
5577.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
大家對於幼兒教育的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
5577.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
5579.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
但保留一定的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
5579.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
5581.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
在市場上私校還是有其必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
5581.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
5583.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
但不能因此因為它有私校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
5583.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
5584.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
我們就說政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
5584.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
5586.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
那你要補好補滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
5586.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
5587.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
我覺得這個邏輯是不一樣的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
5587.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
5588.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
再次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
5588.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
5590.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
沒關係我們尊重不同的意見喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
5590.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
5592.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
但我要說的就很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
5592.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
5595.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
只要有更優於現況的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
5595.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
5599.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
利於國人在這個生育率的提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
5599.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
5601.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
以及生活負擔的減輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
5601.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
5603.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
我們都可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
5603.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
5605.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
那當然如果版本都沒有更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
5605.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
5607.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
我們還是會堅持原本的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
5607.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
5609.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
就是希望公托公幼免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
5609.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
5611.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
私托私幼補助家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
5611.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
5614.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
每人每月1萬5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
5614.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
5618.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
這個東西我還是要跟教育部再一次的呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
5618.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
5620.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
我們大家一起共同來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
5620.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
5622.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
如何讓這個部分能夠再提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
5622.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
5624.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
這個也要特別拜託大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
5624.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
5626.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
那最後剛剛也提到的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
5626.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
5629.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
不管是私生比、薪資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
5629.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
5632.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
或者是我們的老師的待遇的提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
5632.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
5635.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
這個部分右教老師也有給我們一些建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
5635.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
5636.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
我們都有收到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
5636.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
5640.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
所以能夠希望把這個部分納入到配套機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
5640.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
5642.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
這個我們都一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
5643.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
5648.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
斟酌整個文字上希望能夠適應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
5648.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
5649.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
也不是只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
5650.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
5651.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
雙贏而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
5651.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
5652.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
5653.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
5655.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
好 哲喜協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
5656.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
5658.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
再進行協商喔 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
5660.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
5662.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
主題六 教育文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
5663.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
5665.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
社會福利衛生環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
5665.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
5666.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
5667.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
5668.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
你去用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
5668.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
5669.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
欸 我們是不是要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
5672.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
5674.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
下一條 下一條還沒啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
5676.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
5677.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
還有還有還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
5677.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
5679.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
還沒到主題六啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
5680.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
5682.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
下一條 第七條先哲喜再審嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
5682.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
5683.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
再協商嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
5683.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
5684.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
好 再下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
5687.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
5688.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
5692.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
5694.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
那就是43條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
5694.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
5695.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
52條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
5699.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
5701.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
好 照協商通知的案數喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
5701.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
5704.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
我們現在要處理幼兒照顧法43條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
5704.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
5706.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
52條 條例修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
5706.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
5707.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
請大家閱讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
5708.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
5711.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
是不是請教育部直接回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
5711.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
5713.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
剛剛好像已經回應到一半了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
5716.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
5718.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
主席及各位委員喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
5718.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
5720.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
有關第43條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
5720.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
5722.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
那搭配的是52條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
5722.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
5724.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
那主要是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
5724.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
5726.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
43條本來對於私立的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
5726.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
5728.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
教保服務機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
5728.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
5730.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
它的收費項目跟用途 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
5730.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
5732.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
一直是政府所訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
5732.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
5734.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
那數額它本來也是權衡它自己成本喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
5734.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
5736.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
5736.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
5737.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
另外就是它的公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
5737.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
5739.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
我們目前也是透過教保資訊網 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
5739.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
5741.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
揭露給所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
5741.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
5743.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
民眾可以知悉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
5743.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
5744.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
所以我們是建議喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
5744.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
5746.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
43跟52可以維持原來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
5746.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
5748.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
現行的條文主要是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
5748.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
5751.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
我們目前就已經有做法機制在以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
5751.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
5752.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
5752.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
5753.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
那我推進了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
5753.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
5754.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
那速度快一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
5754.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
5756.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
我們就直接跟上一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
5756.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
5758.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
保留再進行協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
5758.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
5761.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
因為它是跟上一案是有牽扯的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
5761.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
5762.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
5763.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
5765.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
哲琪再進行協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
5765.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
5767.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
宣讀協商結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
5767.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
5769.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
本案本主題我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
5769.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
5771.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
在哲琪進行協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
5772.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
5773.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
下一個主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
5774.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
5776.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
教育文化委員會社會福利衛生環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
5776.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
5778.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
我們王玉明委員等21人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
5778.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
5780.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
又造法修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
5783.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
5785.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
審查結果25條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
5785.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
5789.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
詹銀通過其餘第27、28、54均保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5789.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
5791.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
我們今天來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
5791.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
5793.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
5795.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
5797.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
27委員修正是一個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
5797.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
5799.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
因為目前在執行上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
5799.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
5801.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
似乎也沒有疑義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
5801.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
5803.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
所以我們是建議說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
5803.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
5805.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
維持現行的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
5807.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
5809.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
然後20 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
5809.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
5811.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
你說27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
5811.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
5813.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
27對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
5814.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
5816.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
一個字嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
5816.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
5818.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
你跟王玉明的有差在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
5818.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
5820.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
一個他在那裡有一個第二行有劃線 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
5820.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
5822.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
有沒有 設有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
5823.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
5825.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
其他交保服務人員設有23條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
5825.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
5829.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
是因查詢其有無設 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
5830.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
5832.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
第23條、24條、25條的那個設嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
5832.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
5834.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
5834.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
5836.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
多那個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
5836.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
5838.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
所以現在執行上沒有困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
5838.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
5840.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
委員有無意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
5840.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
5842.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
好我們就此條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
5842.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
5844.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
5844.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
5846.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
照這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
5846.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
5848.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
剛剛協商的我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
5848.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
5850.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
原條文通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
5851.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
5853.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
原條文保持原條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
5854.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
5856.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
維持保持都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
5857.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
5861.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
好不如修正維持保持現有條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
5861.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
5863.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
好吧OK |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
5863.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
5865.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
那接下來是28條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
5865.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
5867.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
28條也是王玉明委員21人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
5867.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
5869.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
那這裡是在倒數第二項加入了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
5869.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
5871.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
已經進入犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
5871.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
5873.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
偵查審判期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
5873.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
5875.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
那因為目前我們本來就有調查機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
5875.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
5877.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
如果是有這兩種情形的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
5877.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
5879.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
他本來也會做行政調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
5879.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
5881.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
所以呢到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
5881.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
5883.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
我們在整體的運作上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
5883.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
5885.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
也是都沒有問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
5886.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
5888.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
5887.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
5889.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
所以我們建議維持原條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
5892.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
5894.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
咳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
5894.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
5896.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
你說第28條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
5896.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
5898.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
28條倒數第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
5902.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
5904.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
5904.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
5906.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
一個是刑事偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
5906.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5908.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
一個是自發偵探 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
5908.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5910.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
所以跟他一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
5910.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5912.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
他會不會跟前面有聯動性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5914.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5916.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
會嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
5915.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
5917.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
跟前面是沒有聯動性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5917.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5919.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
沒有聯動性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5918.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5920.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
所以你覺得不會影響增加這文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
5924.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
5926.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
目前已經可以執行了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
5926.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5928.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
所以加不加都沒有影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5928.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5930.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
好有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5933.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5935.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
好保留原條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5936.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5938.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
對修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5938.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5940.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
維持原條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5940.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5942.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5941.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5943.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
下一個是王玉敏委員54條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5943.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5945.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
54條這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5945.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
5947.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
其實如果要調高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5947.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5949.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
我們本來是沒有太多的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5949.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5951.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
但是因為整個右教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5951.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5953.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
是有兩法右教法跟教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5953.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5955.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
那因為兩法對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5955.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5957.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
相關人員的罰的額度是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5957.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5959.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
所以這裡如果把 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5959.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5961.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
這個負責人跟其他人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
5961.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
5963.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
調高到6萬到30萬以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
5963.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5965.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
那反而教保服務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
5965.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5967.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
又是原來的3萬到15萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5967.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5969.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
所以不同法系之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5969.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5971.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
就會產生不一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5971.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5973.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
然後再來就是如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5973.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5975.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
他真的是情形比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5975.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5977.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
5977.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
5979.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
我們目前在右教法裡頭的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
5979.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5981.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
第61條裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5981.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5983.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
已經有文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
5983.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5985.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
那他們可以依照行政法法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5985.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5987.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
再去審討他的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5987.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5989.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
可以著微調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5989.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5991.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
他的額度以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5991.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5993.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
所以我們建議這也是維持原條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5993.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5995.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
6000.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
6002.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
好 其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
6004.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
6006.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
依教育部的建議就是維持原條文嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
6008.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
6010.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
我看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
6016.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
6018.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
請不吝點贊訂閱轉發打賞支持明鏡與點點欄目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
6028.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
6030.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
現行的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
6030.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
6032.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
所罰的款項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
6032.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
6034.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
也都是跟這個一樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
6034.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
6036.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
現行條文是罰3萬到15萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
6036.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
6038.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
現在要把它調高一倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
6038.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
6040.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
變成6萬到30萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
6040.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
6042.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
但是這個條文對的是負責人跟其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
6042.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
6044.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
服務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
6044.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
6046.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
那整個幼兒園裡面他們有兩法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
6046.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
6048.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
一個是現在在審的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
6048.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
6050.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
右教法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
6050.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
6052.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
另外還有一個教保服務人員條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
6052.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
6054.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
那負責人跟其他人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
6054.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
6056.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
就在這個法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
6056.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
6058.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
所以這個法律是另外在教保服務條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
6058.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
6060.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
那我們現在如果修這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
6060.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
6062.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
就等於說原內各種不同人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
6062.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
6064.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
在通報的罰則是不一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
6064.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
6066.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
好這個等一下我協商一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
6068.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
6070.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
6071.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
6073.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
你現在基隆這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
6076.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
6078.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
罰6000到6萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
6078.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
6080.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
跟這條有沒有連動性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
6083.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
6085.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
這個只有原長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
6113.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
6115.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
因為基隆這個案件出來以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
6115.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
6117.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
基隆只罰6萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
6118.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
6120.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
他們就爆炸了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
6120.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
6122.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
那也是一條通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
6122.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
6124.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
對所以我這一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
6124.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
6126.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
往上修教保條例我也要往上修 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
6126.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
6128.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
但其實應該要看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
6128.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
6130.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
就是說其實在整個教育現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
6130.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
6132.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
各種不同的原通報的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
6132.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
6134.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
就有其餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
6134.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
6136.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
如果說其他在學校裡面的通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
6136.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
6138.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
也不到30萬但是對幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
6138.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
6140.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
特別有用在其實對右教現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
6140.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
6142.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
6142.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
6144.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
這一條先保留沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
6144.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
6146.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
你跟王玉米說服再說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
6146.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
6148.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
因為現在卡到我對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
6148.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
6150.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
教保條例我的刑事律師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
6150.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
6152.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
要排下次要修教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
6152.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
6154.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
46條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
6154.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
6156.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
謝國良他們說那個真的罰太輕了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
6156.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
6158.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
家長都爆炸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
6159.46 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
6341.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
6343.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
6343.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
6345.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
6345.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
6347.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
6347.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
6349.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
6349.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
6351.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
6351.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
6353.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
6341.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
6343.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
6345 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
6347 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
6347 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
6349 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
6349 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
6351 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
6351 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
6353 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
6353 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
6355 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
6355 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
6357 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
6357 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
6359 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
6359 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
6361 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
6361 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
6363 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
6363 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
6365 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
6365 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
6367 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
6367 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
6369 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
6369 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
6371 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
6371 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
6373 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
6345.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
6347.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
6351.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
6353.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
6353.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
6355.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
6355.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
6357.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
6357.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
6359.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
6359.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
6361.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
6361.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
6363.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
6363.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
6365.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
6365.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
6367.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
6367.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
6369.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
6369.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
6371.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
6371.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
6373.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
6373.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
6375.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
6375.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
6377.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
6377.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
6379.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
教保條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
6365.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
6367.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
好這樣開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
6366.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
6368.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
你要我練什麼你再講沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
6370.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
6372.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
第54條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
6375.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
6377.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
教育部建議維持現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
6377.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
6379.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
但是我們在協商的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
6379.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
6381.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
還是有很多的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
6381.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
6383.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
我覺得這一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
6382.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
6384.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
不能夠馬上做決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
6384.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
6386.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
我們還是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
6386.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
6388.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
則其再協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
6388.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
6390.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
因為有其必要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
6390.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
6392.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
那我想其他的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
6392.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
6394.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
我們不贅述就是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
6394.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
6396.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
這個還要再多討論謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
6396.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
6398.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
則其再進行協商謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
6400.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
6402.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
我回過頭再問你確定一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
6402.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
6404.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
你28條是現行可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
6404.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
6406.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
我才可以放你過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
6406.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
6408.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
不要到時候我們對家長沒辦法交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
6410.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
6412.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
沒有問題喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
6412.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
6414.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
不會有任何疑慮喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
6414.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
6416.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
6415.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
6417.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
咳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
6419.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
6421.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
補充宣告喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
6421.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
6423.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
大學法第35條條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
6423.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
6425.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
新增附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
6425.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
6427.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
附帶決議為減輕青年學子與家庭經濟負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
6427.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
6429.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
教育部雖已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
6429.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
6431.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
推動多項就學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
6431.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
6433.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
貸款優惠措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
6433.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
6435.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
每年已經投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
6435.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
6437.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
餘20億元支應利息及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
6437.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
6439.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
提供寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
6439.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
6441.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
措施等為進一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
6441.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
6443.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
減輕學生還款壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
6443.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
6445.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
請教育部持續研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
6445.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
6447.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
於下學年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
6447.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
6449.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
編列預算全額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
6449.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
6451.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
補助就學貸款利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
6451.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
6453.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
提案人羅廷瑋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
6453.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
6455.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
院之蔡春筹 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
6455.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
6457.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
附帶決議有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
6458.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
6460.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
好沒有意見好再通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
6461.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
6463.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
根正我們協商結論喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
6463.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
6465.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
附帶通過附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
6465.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
6467.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
共兩項一併 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
6473.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
6475.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
專科學校法第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
6475.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
6477.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
條文修正附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
6478.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
6480.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
新增附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
6480.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
6482.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
也是跟剛剛大學法一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
6482.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
6484.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
於下學年度補助就學貸款利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
6484.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
6486.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
提案人羅廷瑋蔡春筹院之 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
6486.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
6488.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
6487.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
6489.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
好沒有意見我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
6489.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
6491.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
第一這條條文當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
6491.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
6493.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
協商結論照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
6493.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
6495.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
剛剛內容的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
6495.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
6497.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
原條文通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
6497.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
6499.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
剛剛協商的條文通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
6499.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
6501.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
但是我今天又新增附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
6501.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
6503.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
所以共兩案附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
6503.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
6505.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
兩項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
6507.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
6509.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
好我們繼續下一個主題吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
6509.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
6511.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
教育局文化委員會社會福利及衛生環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
6511.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
6513.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
委員會報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
6514.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
6516.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
6516.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
6518.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
蘇星權20人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
6518.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
6520.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
教育照顧法第37條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
6520.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
6522.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
條文修正草案審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
6522.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
6524.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
第37條保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
6524.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
6526.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
送院會黨團協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
6526.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
6528.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
6528.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
6530.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
福昆祺等20人你去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
6530.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
6532.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
教育法第37條條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
6532.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
6534.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
進附二讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
6533.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
6535.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
並按審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
6535.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
6537.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
今天我們來到37條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
6537.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
6539.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
6539.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
6541.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
下一步直接說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
6541.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
6543.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
好那主席及各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
6543.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
6545.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
有關第37條兩案的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
6545.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
6547.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
那我們在幼兒園裡面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
6547.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
6549.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
健康飲食內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
6549.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
6551.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
已經有訂有幼兒園餐點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
6551.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
6553.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
食物內容及營養基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
6553.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
6555.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
那就這裡面的規範都必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
6555.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
6557.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
符合食品安全衛生管理法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
6557.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
6559.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
然後都必須經過相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
6559.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
6561.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
認證跟標章 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
6561.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
6563.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
那同時在公餐的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
6563.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
6565.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
也必須要依照幼兒園以及分班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
6565.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
6567.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
設立變更管理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
6567.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
6569.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
38條的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
6569.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
6571.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
同時這些餐點表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
6571.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
6573.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
等等的都必須對外公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
6573.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
6575.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
那受家長的監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
6575.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
6577.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
那因為現行已經有相關的機制在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
6577.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
6579.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
所以我們建議能夠維持現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
6582.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
6583.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
6583.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
6585.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
那我提議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
6585.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
6587.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
保留好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
6587.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
6589.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
6588.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
6590.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
我們就擇其再審 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
6590.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
6592.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
再進行協商謝謝下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
6593.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
6595.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
教育文化委員會陳佩玉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
6595.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
6597.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
用的照顧法第11條第12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
6597.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
6599.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
第32條條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
6599.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
6601.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
第11條審查結果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
6601.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
6603.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
第11條第12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
6603.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
6605.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
甄定第12條之二均保留受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
6605.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
6607.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
受院會處理協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
6606.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
6608.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
來我們現在處理陳佩玉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
6610.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
6612.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
6613.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
6615.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
陳佩玉委員請問你的第11條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
6615.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
6617.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
6617.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
6619.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
主席我就一併說明好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
6619.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
6621.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
11 12還有32條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
6621.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
6623.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
我相信教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
6623.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
6625.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
目前一定有收到大量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
6625.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
6627.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
來自第一線的懲情其實是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
6627.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
6629.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
越來越多家長對於如何協助小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
6629.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
6631.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
使用3C但不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
6631.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
6633.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
過度使用使用數位教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
6633.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
6635.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
但不要過度依賴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
6635.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
6637.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
的這個困境那有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
6637.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
6639.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
越來越多的幼兒園老師也表達出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
6639.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
6641.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
他們對於相關的教案設計也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
6641.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
6643.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
閱讀資源的提供也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
6643.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
6645.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
或者是相關內容的理解他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
6645.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
6647.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
其實都需要更多教育部的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
6647.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
6649.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
所以我其實從之前就已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
6649.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
6651.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
提出我們確實在國教法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
6651.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
6653.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
修法的時候我不確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
6653.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
6655.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
教育部長官你們記不記得我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
6655.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
6657.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
三年前的教育國教法修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
6657.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
6659.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
的時候當時我們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
6659.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
6661.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
6661.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
6663.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
閱讀資源都必須要靠教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
6663.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
6665.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
的剩餘款才有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
6665.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
6667.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
錢有機會讓學校買書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
6667.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
6669.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
後來在修國教法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
6669.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
6671.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
當時的潘部長就承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
6671.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
6673.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
我們入了國教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
6673.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
6675.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
法裡面每年因編列相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
6675.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
6677.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
預算買書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
6677.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
6679.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
那我覺得在國教階段已經有了我希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
6679.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
6681.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
往下到幼兒園加更因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
6682.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
6684.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
他就算不是培養閱讀能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
6684.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
6686.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
他其實也要透過閱讀能力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
6686.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
6688.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
扎根跟培養 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
6688.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
6690.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
讓他去面對3C這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
6690.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
6692.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
他需要有不同的免疫力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
6692.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
6694.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
所以我比較認為閱讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
6694.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
6696.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
閱讀的能力他像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
6696.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
6698.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
在面對這個3C的困境的時候他比較像是免疫力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
6698.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
6700.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
所以我還是希望可以堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
6700.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
6702.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
在第11條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
6702.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
6704.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
把建立幼兒閱讀興趣放進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
6704.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
6706.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
第12條為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
6706.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
6708.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
回應這個興趣的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
6708.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
6710.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
我們必須把相關資源還有相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
6710.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
6712.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
教案放進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
6712.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
6714.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
服務內容到第32條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
6714.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
6716.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
相關空間採購的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
6716.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
6718.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
預算等等其實是一起的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
6718.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
6720.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
我認為這件事情我們我知道現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
6720.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
6722.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
很多執法有在做可是我還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
6722.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
6724.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
希望他把它放到魔法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
6724.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
6726.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
給更多老師跟家長感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
6726.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
6728.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
到教育部在這個議題上的支持跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
6728.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
6730.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
信念還有確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
6730.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
6732.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
未來會花更多資源更多力氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
6732.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
6734.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
更多時間更多政策往這裡去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
6734.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
6736.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
6740.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
6742.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
6741.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
6743.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
那是不是就請教一部直接回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
6743.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
6745.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
可不可以配合這好事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
6745.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
6747.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
就配合嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
6747.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
6749.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
那委員11條跟12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
6749.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
6751.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
的部分雖然我們目前在教保服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
6751.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
6753.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
實施準則然後委員也 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
6753.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
6755.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
有很多的一些建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
6755.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
6757.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
那我們課綱設施設備標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
6757.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6759.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
也都有我們目前訂了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6759.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6761.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
閱讀的推動計畫不過就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6761.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6763.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
在那個第11條跟第12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6763.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6765.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
確實也是幼兒園目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6765.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6767.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
在執行的事項所以我們也尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6767.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6769.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
委員但是就後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6769.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6771.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
的那個第32之1條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6771.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6773.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
因為有關設施設備的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6773.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6775.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
我們已經在設施設備標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6775.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6777.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
裡頭已經有了有各式各樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6777.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6779.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
的這個設備所以我們是建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6779.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6781.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
第32之1條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6781.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6783.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
可以保可以維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6783.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6785.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
原來的條文就是不鎮定以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6786.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6788.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
好我先回應一下教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6788.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6790.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
所以我們11 12可以修法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6790.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6792.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
可以按照我們的修法版本喔謝謝教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6792.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6794.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
總算可以通過期待未來三讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6794.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6796.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
那我們來看一下32之1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6796.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6798.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
其實我的寫法我也知道教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6798.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6800.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
理解可是我這裡寫的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6800.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6802.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
得設啦也就是說如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6802.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6804.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
教保服務機構不用映射 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6804.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6806.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
用得設就可以了給予鼓勵性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6806.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6808.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
的精神啦指示性然後沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6808.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6810.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
映射啦好不好我就用得設 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6810.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6812.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
應該可以嘛來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6831.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6833.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
那我們可以回答一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6833.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6835.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
可以回答嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6836.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6838.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
請教育部先回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6838.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6840.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
好那這邊跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6840.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6842.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
就是說閱讀確實是很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6842.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6844.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
那部裡面這幾年其實也編列相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6844.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6846.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
的經費不只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6846.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6848.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
公立非營利準公共也都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6848.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6850.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
補助啦那跟委員的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6850.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6852.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
也是一致的那因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6852.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6854.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
幼兒園裡面他設任何的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6854.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6856.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
市啦或是任何一個區域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6856.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6858.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
我們現在幼兒園的設施設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6858.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6860.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
標準裡面已經有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6860.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6862.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
那我們回過頭來也可以再檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6862.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6864.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
我們的標準那委員期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6864.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6866.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
如果在閱讀的部分可以再多一點琢磨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6866.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6868.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
我們會建議放在我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6868.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6870.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
設施設備標準裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6870.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6872.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
來做處理不要在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6872.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6874.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
或是再增加附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6874.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6876.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
但是我們比較不建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6876.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6878.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
放在幼照法裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6878.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6880.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
來規定以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6880.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6882.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
好那我那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6882.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6884.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
接受教育部的建議那附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6884.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6886.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
的部分有沒有什麼建議寫法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6887.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6889.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
我們把這個精神還是要納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6892.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6894.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
保護小姐附帶決議好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6894.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6896.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
那我們三十二之一就不堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6896.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6898.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
但是感謝教育部十一十二我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6898.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6900.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
按照我們的版本通過謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6905.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6907.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
所以陳培瑜委員就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6909.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6911.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
十一十二條照 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6912.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6914.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
陳培瑜委員提議案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6916.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6918.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
第三十二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6918.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6920.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
三十二之一不予 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6920.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6922.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
甄定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6923.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6925.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
那要不要等你寫一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6925.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6927.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
我休息一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6927.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6929.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
7365.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
7367.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
現在開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
7367.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
7369.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
7371.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
7373.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
附帶決議都OK的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
7373.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
7375.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
多倫桃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
7374.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
7376.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
那陳培瑜委員也都支持你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
7376.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
7378.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
剛剛你也幫我講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
7378.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
7380.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
那我也現在幫你講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
7380.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
7382.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
好的對國人的我們都 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
7382.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
7384.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
一起努力難得我們有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
7388.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
7390.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
跟你合作愉快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
7390.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
7392.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
教育照顧法第十二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
7392.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
7394.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
7394.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
7396.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
建請教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
7396.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
7398.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
寬列預算支持教保服務機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
7398.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
7400.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
推動閱讀教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
7400.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
7402.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
與親子共讀並鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
7402.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
7404.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
教保服務機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
7404.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
7406.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
設置圖書室 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
7406.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
7408.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
陳培瑜蔡村仇五立華 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
7408.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
7410.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
羅庭偉簽字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
7410.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
7412.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
那我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
7412.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
7414.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
有無意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
7413.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
7415.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
沒有好照 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
7415.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
7417.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
附帶決議我們就保留原條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
7417.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
7419.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
文但是有附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
7419.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
7421.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
這一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
7421.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
7423.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
那我們這一個第九案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
7423.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
7425.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
第十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
7425.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
7427.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
第十二條照委員陳培瑜等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
7427.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
7429.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
十八人通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
7429.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
7431.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
第三十二條之一不予修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
7431.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
7433.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
維持限定條文但通過附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
7433.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
7435.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
7434.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
7436.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
大家有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
7435.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
7437.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
沒有意義簽字謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
7441.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
7443.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
請簽字麻煩你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
7444.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
7446.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
第十案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
7446.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
7448.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
林月琴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
7448.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
7450.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
教育照顧法第30條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
7450.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
7452.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
結果30條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
7452.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
7454.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
送院會主理協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
7453.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
7455.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
教育黨的協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
7455.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
7457.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
30條請委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
7457.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
7459.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
我們直接請那個什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
7460.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
7462.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
教育黨委回覆啦謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
7473.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
7475.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
對那跟主席以及各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
7475.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
7477.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
報告以目前第30條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
7477.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
7479.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
的這一案子因為我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
7479.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
7481.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
我們其實修了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
7481.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
7483.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
相關的行政規則或是法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
7483.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
7485.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
命令所以目前呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
7485.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
7487.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
這個委員所提的這個文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
7487.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
7489.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
在現行做法裡面已經可以推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
7489.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
7491.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
無礙所以我們建議保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
7491.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
7493.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
維持現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
7503.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
7505.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
你要不要講確切一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
7505.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
7507.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
說服幾個民進黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
7507.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
7509.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
他們的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
7516.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
7518.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
好那 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
7518.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
7520.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
報告主席以及那個各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
7520.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
7522.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
那我們就尊重林委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
7522.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
7524.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
提的這一項修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
7524.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
7526.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
7539.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
7541.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
怎麼兩次說法不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
7543.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
7545.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
剛剛建議原條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
7545.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
7547.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
現在又尊重可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
7554.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
7556.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
所以部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
7555.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
7557.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
7558.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
7560.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
趙委員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
7560.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
7562.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
林月琴委員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
7563.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
7565.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
7564.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
7566.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
7567.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
7569.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
沒有我們沒有改啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
7569.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
7571.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
直接趙委員提案啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
7572.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
7574.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
來我更正一下喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
7574.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
7576.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
那個協商討論喔第九案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
7576.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
7578.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
第32條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
7578.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
7580.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
不予修正不予增訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
7580.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
7582.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
7583.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
7585.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
不予增訂通過附帶決議一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
7585.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
7587.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
好下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
7588.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
7590.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
7590.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
7592.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
回過頭來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
7592.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
7594.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
有委員提議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
7594.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
7596.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
來看第二案喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
7596.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
7598.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
7598 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
7600 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
吳立華委員的修正版本喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
7600.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
7602.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
下一步可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
7602.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
7604.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
好配合辦理照樣通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
7604.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
7606.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
照修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
7607.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
7609.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
簽字喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
7619.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
7621.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
第七案喔補充宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
7622.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
7624.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
第 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
7624.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
7626.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
優惠照顧法第27條28條不予修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
7626.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
7628.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
維持現行條文第54條保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
7628.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
7630.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
其餘軍照審查會審查通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
7630.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
7632.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
請簽名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
7633.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
7635.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
以上今天的協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
7635.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
7637.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
我們請大家補簽名文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
7637.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
7639.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
7639.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
7641.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
我們今天的協商告一段落 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
7641.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
7643.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
7643.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
7645.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
還沒有處理好的下次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
7645.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
7647.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
再協商謝謝大家今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
7647.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
7649.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
配合我們今天合作愉快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
7649.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
7651.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
感謝大家 |