| IVOD_ID |
17665 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17665 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
23 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-12T08:36:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-12T12:31:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
03:54:29 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/eeffa975d6a1e3eab63625e7fc6582d7f2624357a227de45d4a54903b68e37ff66183169d646ac415ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第23次全體委員會議(事由:一、邀請內政部部長、國土管理署署長、財政部、金融監督管理委員會、中央銀行就「高房價環境下青年安心成家購屋優惠貸款3.0政策檢討:青年購屋門檻、首購資格認定、年齡限制、申貸年齡與核貸年限總合限制及政策上路對於落實居住正義、健全房市政策與配套措施」進行專題報告並備質詢。二、邀請內政部部長、國土管理署署長就「落實居住正義之困境與對策:十三萬戶社宅興辦檢討、都更社宅容獎制度失靈,暨行政院租賃市場修法三大方向(保障租期、限制漲幅、強化權益)之執行進度」進行專題報告並備質詢。) |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:36:31 - 12:31:00 |
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1429.41 |
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報告委員會出席委員死人 |
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1431.41 |
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1432.41 |
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立法院第十一屆第五會期內政委員會第二十二次全體委員會議議事錄 |
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時間115年8月5日星期三上午93分至11時6分 |
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1448.03 |
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地點紅樓202會議室 |
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1453.03 |
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1453.03 |
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1456.83 |
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列席官員 大陸委員會主任委員邱垂政及相關人員 |
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1456.83 |
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1460.13 |
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內政部移民署署長林弘恩及相關人員 |
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1462.03 |
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主席李昭吉委員博義 |
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1464.43 |
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1465.33 |
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決定確定 |
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1470.53 |
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討論事項 一審查台灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例等5案 |
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二審查香港澳門關係條例等2案 |
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1474.93 |
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1476.63 |
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委員李博義說明提案要指 |
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1476.63 |
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1479.13 |
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1479.13 |
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1481.43 |
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委員張志倫等11人質詢 |
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1481.43 |
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1483.43 |
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由大陸委員會主任委員邱垂政 |
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1486.83 |
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內政部地政司專門委員張翠恩答覆說明 |
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1489.13 |
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登記發言委員除不在場者外 |
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1489.13 |
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1491.93 |
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1494.13 |
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委員林楚英 傅崑琪 徐欣瑩 |
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1494.13 |
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1496.93 |
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所提書面質詢列入紀錄刊登公報 |
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1496.93 |
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1499.13 |
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1499.13 |
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1501.73 |
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請相關機關於一周內另以書面答覆 |
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1501.73 |
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1503.03 |
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並複製本會 |
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1503.03 |
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1504.93 |
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決議討論事項 首列議案 |
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1507.43 |
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1510.23 |
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1512.53 |
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請問各位委員上次會議示錄有無錯誤 |
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1513.95 |
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1515.45 |
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無錯誤 議事錄確定 |
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1515.45 |
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1517.45 |
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1517.97 |
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1520.47 |
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報告事項二 邀請內政部部長 |
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1520.47 |
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1523.87 |
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國土管理署署長 財政部金融監督管理委員會 |
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1523.87 |
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1525.87 |
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中央銀行就高房價環境下 |
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1525.87 |
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1528.07 |
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青年安心成家購屋優惠貸款 |
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1528.07 |
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1531.07 |
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3.0政策檢討 青年購屋門檻 |
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1531.07 |
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1533.67 |
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首購資格認定 年齡限制 |
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1533.67 |
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1536.97 |
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1536.97 |
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1539.87 |
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及政策上路對於落實居住正義 |
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1539.87 |
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1542.57 |
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健全房市政策與配套措施 |
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1542.57 |
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1544.87 |
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進行專題報告並被質詢 |
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1544.87 |
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1546.47 |
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三 邀請內政部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1546.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1550.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
國土管理署署長就落實居住正義之困境與對策 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
1550.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
1551.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
13萬房 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1552.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1554.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
13萬戶涉宅新建檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
1554.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1557.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
都更涉宅容積獎勵失靈 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
1557.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1560.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
繼行政院租賃市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
1560.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1561.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
修法三大方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
1561.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1563.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
保障租期限制漲幅 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
1563.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1565.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
強化權益支持行進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
1565.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1567.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
進行專題報告並被質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1567.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
1567.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
1571.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
1574.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
首先介紹在場委員及列席官有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
1574.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
1575.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
在場順序介紹 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
1575.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1576.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
首先介紹王美慧委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
1578.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
1579.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
張志倫委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
1580.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1581.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
黃杰委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
1582.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1584.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
接下來列席官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
1584.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1585.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
內政部劉釋芳部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
1586.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1588.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
國土管理署菜場展署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
1590.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1592.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
財政部國庫署林秀燕副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
1593.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1596.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
金融監督管理委員會銀行局周一 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
1597.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1597.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
美組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
1598.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1601.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
中央銀行業務局方琴副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1603.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1606.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
國家住宅及都市更新中心花敬群董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
1609.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1610.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
現在進行報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1610.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1612.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
請內政部劉釋芳部長報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
1612.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1614.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
兩項專題報告請一併報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1615.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1616.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
一併 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1623.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1624.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
還有各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1624.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1626.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
各位女士先生大家早 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1626.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1629.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
今天非常高興就兩件 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1629.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1631.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
兩樣這個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1631.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1633.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
跟大家先做一個簡單的口頭報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1633.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1637.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
首先是就有關於高房價環境下 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1637.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1641.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
青年安心承家購屋優惠貸款3.0政策的檢討的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1641.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1648.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
對於落實居住正義健全房市政策與配套措施的專題報告跟備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1648.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1651.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
謝謝委員對於夜館的這個議題的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1651.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1655.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
為了延續照顧青年購屋的自住需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1655.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1658.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
財政部從115年8月1號起 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
1658.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1660.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
推動青安3.0方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
1660.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
1664.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
新增借款人年齡限制條件等措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
1664.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1666.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
對於青安3.0方案內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
1666.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1669.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
本部尊重財政部的政策評估與規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
1669.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1671.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
另就青安3.0方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
1671.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1675.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
對於落實居住正義健全房市政策跟配套措施的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1675.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1677.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
內政部說明如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
1677.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1681.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
一 青安3.0有助於青年婚育家庭自住購屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1681.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1685.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
本次財政部推動之青安3.0方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1685.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
1690.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
將住宅資源更精準照顧青年自住手購的購屋族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
1690.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
1693.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
並且加強對婚育家庭的金融支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
1693.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
1696.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
將有助於減輕民眾的居住負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
1696.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
1699.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
第二 本部配合的辦理事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
1699.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
1703.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
一 協助完善青安3.0代後管理機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
1703.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
1706.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
內政部已經配合財政部的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
1706.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
1709.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
協助勾集代後出租查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
1709.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
1713.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
另就新婚兩年內提高貸款額度的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
1713.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
1715.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
內政部也將配合財政部的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
1715.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
1718.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
協助辦理婚姻關係等資料之勾集 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
1718.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
1721.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
以確保政府資源合理的運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
1721.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
1724.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
第二 適時發動稽查防堵炒作 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
1725.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
1729.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
為了防堵有心人士不當影響防事交易的次序 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
1729.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
1732.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
平均地權條例已經增加限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
1732.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
1735.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
預售屋換約轉售及重罰炒作等規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
1735.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
1740.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
內政部並且訂有預售屋銷售聯合稽查實施計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
1740.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
1744.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
將責成縣市地方政府常態性的稽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
1744.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
1748.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
以防堵利用青安3.0進行不當炒作的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
1748.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
1752.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
第三 有關多元協助民眾居住的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
1752.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
1755.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
內政部除了透過直接興辦社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
1755.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
1758.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
推動包租貸款以及擴大租金補貼計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
1758.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
1760.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
三項大原則之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
1760.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
1763.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
來照顧民眾居住的需求是我們的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
1763.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
1766.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
另外 推動青年婚姻租屋協助專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
1766.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
1768.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
透過租金補貼的加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
1768.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
1770.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
申請資格的放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
1770.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
1771.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
以及增加補助項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
1771.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
1774.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
以及優先入住社會住宅等等的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
1774.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
1777.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
以積極照顧婚姻青年族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
1777.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
1778.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
以上簡單的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
1778.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
1780.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
敬請各位委員指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
1782.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
1784.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
有關第二個專題報告的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
1784.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
1786.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
也感謝各位委員對內政部的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
1786.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
1789.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
那今天有關於落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
1789.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
1792.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
居住正義的困境與對策三大方向部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
1792.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
1795.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
首先先針對百萬戶租屋家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
1795.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
1799.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
支持計畫以及都更榮獎制度的檢討說明如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
1799.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
1802.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
第一 面對人口結構 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
1802.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
1806.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
還有氣候變遷以及都市老化的三大挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
1806.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
1808.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
需要滾動式的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
1808.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
1811.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
以及檢討百萬戶租屋家庭的支持計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
1811.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
1814.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
住宅政策是一個多元的政策工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
1814.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
1818.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
內政部依照住宅法訂定各項住宅政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
1818.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
1822.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
除了因應人口 家庭 都市以及住宅環境變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
1822.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
1823.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
提供不同階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
1823.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
1827.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
在不同需求家庭適切的居住支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
1827.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
1830.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
而且我們要面對台灣少子女化 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
1830.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
1832.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
高齡化 都市老化 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
1832.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
1835.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
以及氣候變遷等結構性的挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
1835.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
1837.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
所以內政部會持續滾動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
1837.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
1839.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
檢討各項的住宅政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
1839.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
1842.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
提升整體居住的支持效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
1842.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
1845.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
以及達到福國利民的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
1845.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
1846.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
首先 在目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
1846.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
1849.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
政府已經逐步來建立直接興辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
1849.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
1851.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
包租代管 租金補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
1851.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
1853.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
三大政策工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
1853.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
1855.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
截至115年7月底 |
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1855.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
1859.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
已經提供超過24.3萬戶的社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
1859.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
1862.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
其中直接興辦超過12.7萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
1862.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
1865.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
在中央有7369戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
1865.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
1868.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
以及地方有56297戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
1868.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
1872.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
在包租代管部分有超過11.6萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
1872.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
1876.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
另外租金補貼也已經核定91.9萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
1876.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
1880.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
而且持續在擴大整體的居住支持量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
1880.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
1883.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
朝三大措施方面來繼續努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
1883.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
1887.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
此外 內政部也透過住宅審議會 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
1887.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
1889.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
還有住宅興辦管考會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
1889.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
1892.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
以及住宅政策相關的諮詢會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
1892.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
1894.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
持續與地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
1894.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
1898.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
以及住宅相關的專家學者產業界 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
1898.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
1900.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
以及民間團體來交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
1900.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
1902.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
進行多方的溝通與討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
1902.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
1904.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
逐步建立共識與執行的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
1906.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
1910.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
在社會住宅所需要的土地及新建期程方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
1910.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
1912.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
未來將透過都市更新分回 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
1912.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
1914.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
都市計畫回饋 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
1914.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
1916.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
大眾運輸導向發展TOD |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
1916.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
1917.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
容積獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
1917.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
1921.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
以及配合才化法修正等多元方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
1921.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
1923.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
增加社會住宅的供給 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
1923.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
1924.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
賴總統上任之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
1924.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
1927.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
全國持續發包新建有95處 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
1927.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
1930.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
逾2.4萬戶的社會住宅如附件一 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
1930.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
1932.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
其中內政部指示 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
1932.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
1934.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
國家住宅中心多元新辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
1934.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
1936.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
共1.7萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
1936.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
1939.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
後續政府會依實際的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
1939.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
1942.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
結合地方在住宅政策的彈性調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
1942.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
1944.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
新辦的量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
1944.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
1944.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
1944.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
1947.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
透過都更危老及容積獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
1947.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
1949.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
來擴充社宅及婚禦宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
1949.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
1951.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
為了透過容積獎勵措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
1951.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
1953.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
鼓勵民間新建捐贈 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
1955.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
1958.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
行政院在115年7月16日 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
1958.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
1959.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
韓送立法院審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
1959.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
1960.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
一 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
1960.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
1961.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
都市更新條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
1961.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
1962.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
二 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
1962.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
1965.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
都市危險及老舊建築物加速重建條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
1965.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
1966.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
1966.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
1968.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
以及河北都市計畫法 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
1968.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
1970.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
臺灣省施行細則 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
1970.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
1973.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
擴大婚禦宅的供給規模 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
1973.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
1974.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
第三 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
1974.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
1975.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
強化租金補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
1975.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
1976.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
以及包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
1976.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
1979.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
及時性可及性的居住支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
1979.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
1982.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
相較社宅直接新建的供給較長 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
1982.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
1984.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
租金補貼及包租代管社宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
1984.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
1985.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
能夠提供直行 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
1985.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
1987.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
及時性也就是早受惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
1987.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
1989.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
與可及性 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
1989.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
1991.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
包括在都會區的居住支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
1991.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
1995.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
回應民眾跨縣市移動的租屋需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
1995.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
1997.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
依據住宅法第19條 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
1997.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
1999.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
包租代管社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
1999.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2001.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
符合社會住宅之定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2001.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2004.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
因此中央除了持續推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2004.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2006.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
直接興辦社會住宅外 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2006.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2008.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
也將透過擴大包租代管方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
2008.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2010.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
增加社會住宅的供給 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2012.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2014.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
114年度上半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2014.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2016.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
六都的屋齡在50年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
2016.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2018.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
連續一年低度的用電使用住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2018.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2021.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
總共有37.6萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2021.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2024.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
透過搭配財政部房屋稅2.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2024.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2026.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
鼓勵屋主釋出房屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2026.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2028.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
促進房屋有效利用 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2028.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2030.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
增加租屋市場供給 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2030.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2032.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
114年下半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2032.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2035.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
已經較上半年減少3萬多戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2035.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2037.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
銜建政策已經有成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2037.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2039.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
截至115年7月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2039.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2041.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
包租代管有效契約數 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2041.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2043.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
已經超過11.6萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2044.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2046.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
針對近期部分包租代管業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2046.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2048.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
相關私人的非法爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2048.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2051.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
內政部已經提出轉嫌機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2051.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2055.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
以確保服務房東房客權益不受影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
2055.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2056.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
督促業者積極履約 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2056.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2059.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
或者後續的契約轉讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
2059.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2061.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
如設有違反契約或法律規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2061.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2063.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
將會依法追究 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2063.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2066.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
另外300億的租金補貼政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2066.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2069.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
從111年開辦以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2069.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2071.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
累積相當的成果跟滿意度 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2071.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2073.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
特別在40歲以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2073.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2075.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
單身青年族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2075.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2077.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
113年度的調查滿意度 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2077.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2079.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
也超過七成 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2079.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2081.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
對於租金補貼義領案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2081.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2084.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
本部也會持續督促地方核實資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2084.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2086.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
加強審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2086.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2089.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
確保補貼的正確發放 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2089.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2091.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
最後為了落實保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2091.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2093.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
百萬戶租屋家庭的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
2093.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2096.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
內政部將持續多元興辦社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
2096.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2098.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
擴大包租代管量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2098.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2100.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
與強化租金補貼制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2100.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2102.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
並積極擴充婚姻宅宿 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2102.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2104.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
以回應社會大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2104.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2106.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
對於社會住宅的關注與期望 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2106.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2108.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
以上簡單報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
2108.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2110.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
請召委以及各位委員多多指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
2110.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2110.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2117.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2118.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
其他單位的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2118.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2121.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
請委員自行參閱並刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2121.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2122.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
現在進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2122.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2125.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
委員諮詢前原例做幾點宣告 |
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2125.54 |
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2127.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
一本會委員質詢時間5分鐘 |
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2127.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2129.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
必要時得延長2分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2129.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2131.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
非本會委員質詢時間5分鐘 |
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2131.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2133.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
上午10點30分截止發言登記 |
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2133.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2136.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
二本次會議就不處理臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2136.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2137.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
請問各位委員有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2139.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2140.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
好 那現在進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2141.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2143.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
請登記第一位的張志榮委員發言質詢 |
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2151.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2154.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
好 主席 各位委員 各位官員大家早 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2154.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2156.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
有請內政部劉時芳部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2163 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2163.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
張委員早 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2163.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2164.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
部長早 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2164.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2166.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
今天感謝召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2166.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2169 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
來這個要這個專案報告 |
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2169 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2170.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
針對現在年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
2170.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2171.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
以及需要幫助的人 |
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2171.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2174.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
最關心的社宅的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2174.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2176.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
來跟部長做個請教 |
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2176.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2181.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
最近在115年這個7月份 |
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2181.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2182.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
今年7月份有新 |
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2183.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2187.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
修訂了一個這個有關於社宅新建的相關計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2187.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2191.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
他們計畫是從114年到121年的相關計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2191.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2193.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
那把這個社宅8年 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2193.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2195.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
其中8年的目標 |
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2195.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2198.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
把它從原本的新建13萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
2198.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2199.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
新建的13萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
2199.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2201.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
大侃至3萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
2201.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2204.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
降幅高達77% |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2204.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2207.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
那我還記得我曾經跟部長在諮詢台的時候說 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2207.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2209.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
這個賴總統當時在選前 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
2209.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
2213.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
承諾要新建的8年是新建13萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
2213.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2214.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
他的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2214.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2215.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
我再提醒一下部長 |
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2215.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2219.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
當時是因為蔡英文總統當時新建12萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
2219.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2221.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
所以賴總統喊就是蓋13萬戶 |
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2221.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
2222.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
其實我上次在巡達的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
2222.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
2223.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
你砍了一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
2223.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
2225.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
只剩6萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
2225.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
2226.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
今天這個巡達的時候 |
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2226.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
2229.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
你的新版計畫只有剩3萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
2229.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
2231.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
那我要請教一下部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
2231.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
2233.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
我剛講的這些內容是否屬實 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
2235.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
2235.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
報告委員 |
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2235.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
2238.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
你講的內容當然不是事實 |
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2238.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
2239.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
我剛也有提到 |
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2239.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
2242.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
來我跟媒體的時候也提到這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
2242.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
2244.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
第一個我們到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
2244.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
2247.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
所謂跟蔡總統蔡賴總統兩個加在一起 |
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2247.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
2250.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
興辦25萬戶的目標並沒有改變 |
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2250.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
2253.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
那因為蔡總統的12萬戶的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
2253.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
2255.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
現在就陸續在實現當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
2255.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
2256.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
那賴總統 |
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2256.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
2257.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
那我請教一下 |
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2257.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
2258.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
請問賴總統 |
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2258.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
2259.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
你們的新的計畫 |
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2259.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
2259.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
今年7月公布計畫 |
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2259.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
2262.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
你們新版的要新建 |
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2262.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
2264.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
這間住宅的數量是幾戶 |
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2264.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
2266.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
我跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
2266.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
2269.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
我們現在要把這個社會住宅的新建 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
2269.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
2271.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
從直接興辦改成叫多元興辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
2271.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
2273.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
這個可能委員也陸陸續續 |
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2273.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
2276.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
在很多會議裡面都有聽到這樣的說法 |
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2276.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
2278.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
所以我們現在的25萬戶的目標 |
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2278.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
2279.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
既然沒有改變的話 |
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2279.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
2281.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
13萬戶 |
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2281.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
2283.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
它裡面的興辦的方式就非常多元 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
2283.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
2285.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
委員你給我一點點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
2285.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
2287.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
到目前為止外界有說 |
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2287.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
2290.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
這個賴總統的這個興辦的直接歸零 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
2290.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
2290.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
其實錯誤的 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
2290.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
2293.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
在我們副表已經提供出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
2293.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
2296.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
到目前為止賴總統他的興辦是1.7萬戶 |
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2297.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
2298.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
目前1.7萬戶 |
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2298.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
2300.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
我們已經提供數字給大家知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
2305.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
2306.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
那我請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
2306.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
2309.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
部長你們今年蓋的社會住宅的數量是幾戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
2311.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
2315.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
115年社會住宅興辦的中央辦蓋的是幾戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
2317.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
2319.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
我是不是請我們國土署 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
2319.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
2320.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
因為你特別講今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
2320.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
2322.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
今年到現在是上半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
2322.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
2324.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
所以我是不是請國土署來跟你回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
2324.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
2326.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
署長有沒有人可以回答這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
2326.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
2328.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
你們就跟我講 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
2328.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
2330.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
今年明年後年三年 |
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2330.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
2332.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
預計興辦的社會住宅的 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
2335.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
2336.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
在我時間暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
2336.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
2338.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
他就沒有回答我問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
2338.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
2339.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
2339.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
2340.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
我會讓你問完 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
2342.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
2344.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
我們在今年跟明年 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
2344.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
2347 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
中央跟地方要蓋3萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
2347 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
2348.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
我請問中央蓋了幾戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
2348.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
2351.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
中央1.8萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
2351.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
2352.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
那明年呢 |
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2352.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
2355.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
總累計大概這三年要蓋1.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
2355.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
2356.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
2356.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
2358.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
我說再講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
2358.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
2360.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
中央興辦的社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
2360.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
2361.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
今年是蓋幾戶 |
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2361.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
2362.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
中央1.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
2362.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
2363.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
明年呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
2364.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
2364.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
你說今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
2364.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
2365.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
今年是1.8萬 |
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2365.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
2367.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
明年多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
2369.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
2370.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
查一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
2370.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
2371.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
我們要查一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
2372.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
2373.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
明年還不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
2377.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
2379.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
今天我看到你們的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
2384.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
2385.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
大概才 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
2385.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
2387.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
對啊快2萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
2387.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
2388.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
那你明年蓋多少 |
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2394.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
2395.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
不是中央一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
2397.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
2399.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
這個計畫 |
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2401.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
2403 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
主席是不是時間可以暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
2403 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
2404.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
他沒有辦法回答我問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
2405.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
2406.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
好 先暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
2412.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
2414.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
今年1.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
2415.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
2416.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
今年1.1萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
2416.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
2417.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
明年呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
2417.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
2419.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
115年1.1萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
2419.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
2420.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
116年呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
2420.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
2421.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
也是1.1 |
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2421.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
2422.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
也是1.1萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
2422.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
2423.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
那117年呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
2424.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
2425.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
我只要問三年就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
2428.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
2429.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
大概多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
2429.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
2431.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
大概1000戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
2431.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
2432.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
只有1000戶嘛 |
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2432.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
2433.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
OK 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
2433.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
2435.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
那跟委員補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
2435.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
2436.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
這個是我們跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
2436.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
2437.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
有開過會 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
2437.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
2438.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
就是目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
2438.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
2439.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
土地沒有問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
2439.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
2441.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
但是我們定期都會開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
2441.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
2443 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
這個數量會繼續增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
2443.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
2446.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
我們這些東西都是會繼續增加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
2446.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
2447.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
2447.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
2449 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
那有請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
2449.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
2450.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
所以部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
2451.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
2452.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
當時賴總統承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
2452.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
2455.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
大家的社長從13萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
2455.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
2457.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
跳票變成3萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
2457.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
2458.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
就是大家可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
2458.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
2459.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
115年116年 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
2459.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
2461.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
還有在新建社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
2461.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
2463.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
可是從117年以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
2463.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
2464.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
剛剛署長特別有講 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
2464.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
2467.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
只剩新建1000戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
2467.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
2468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
這樣子的數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
2468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
2469.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
我覺得本席認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
2469.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
2470.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
非常的不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
2470.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
2473.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
只是雪崩式的一個下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
2473.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
2475.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
所以這個就是要跟部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
2475.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
2476.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
您這樣講有失公允 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
2476.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
2477.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
要跟部長講 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
2477.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
2479.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
社會住宅的新長 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
2480.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
2481.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
這樣是我的質詢時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
2481.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
2484.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
第二個我要跟部長拜託的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
2484.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
2485.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
其實社會住宅新建 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
2485.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
2487.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
跟未來我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
2487.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
2488.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
剛這個會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
2488.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
2490.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
在討論的婚育宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
2490.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
2491.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
影響非常的重大 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
2491.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
2492.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
因為社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
2492.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
2493.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
當時在修法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
2493.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
2495.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
我們就已經有20% |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
2495.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
2497.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
要把他新建的社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
2497.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
2498.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
來做婚育宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
2498.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
2499.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
其實這對需要幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
2499.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
2500.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
或是年輕人來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
2500.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
2502.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
非常的一個重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
2502.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
2503.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
那尤其你們這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
2503.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
2505.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
我是直接講你們的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
2505.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
2506.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
你們這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
2506.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
2508.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
當時在報告裡面承諾說 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
2508.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
2509.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
到117年你們會提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
2509.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
2511.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
多少的婚育宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
2511.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
2512.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
我看是1萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
2512.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
2513.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
可是剛剛你又特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
2513.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
2515.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
已經講到117年 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
2515.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
2517.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
你們要提供婚育宅的數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
2517.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
2518.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
是3千戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
2518.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
2519.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
可是你剛剛跟我講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
2519.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
2521.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
你們新建的社會住宅數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
2521.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
2522.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
只有1千戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
2522.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
2524.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
你們新建的社會住宅數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
2524.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
2525.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
只有1千戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
2525.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
2527.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
成立20%才200戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
2527.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
2527.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
結果你跟我講 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
2527.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
2529.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
這邊的報告寫3千戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
2529.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
2531.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
這個資料是不是有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
2531.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
2532.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
張委員所以你的邏輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
2532.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
2534.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
需要再做一下修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
2534.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
2535.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
我剛剛有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
2535.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
2537.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
新建社會住宅是多元新建 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
2537.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
2538.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
您現在講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
2538.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
2540.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
樹地上面蓋設的住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
2540.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
2541.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
你這個叫做新建 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
2541.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
2543.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
原本才114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
2543.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
2544.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
現在有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
2544.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
2547.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
未來有整開有都更有危老 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
2547.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
2548.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
這些分合的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
2548.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
2549.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
全部都是做婚育宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
2549.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
2551.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
請問你們能保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
2551.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
2552.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
一定會割到3千戶嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
2552.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
2554.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
來請問署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
2554.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
2556.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
你們根本當時前面的計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
2556.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
2558.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
就是拿新建的社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
2558.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
2560.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
去乘以20% |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
2560.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
2562.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
去算婚育宅的數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
2562.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
2563.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
請問你沒有把它加起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
2563.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
2565.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
你可以保證117年 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
2565.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
2567.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
會有3千戶婚育宅嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
2567.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
2569.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
2569.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
2569.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
這些數據上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
2569.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
2571.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
我們是依照目前會慢慢 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
2571.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
2574.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
在市場上面已經完工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
2574.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
2576.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
再陸續提供出來當婚育宅的 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
2576.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
2577.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
這個部分的算法是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
2577.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
2579.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
那委員剛剛提的這個是新建的 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
2579.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
2580.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
你剛剛是不是有跟我講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
2580.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
2583.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
你117年預計新建的社宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
2583.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
2584.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
大概是1千戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
2584.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
2587.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
那你的婚育宅可以達到3千戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
2587.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
2588.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
請問這組如何計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
2589.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
2591.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
婚育宅裡面包含現在要開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
2591.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
2593.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
辦招租的這些案件 |
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2593.72 |
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2595.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
都會有一些婚育宅 |
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2595.02 |
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2597.42 |
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那也包含一些都跟分回 |
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2597.42 |
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2599.72 |
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必須要提供的一些婚育宅 |
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2599.72 |
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2600.42 |
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所以這個數量 |
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2600.42 |
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2602.42 |
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不能跟直接興辦的這個數量 |
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2602.42 |
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2604.12 |
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你前面幾個都直接興辦 |
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2604.12 |
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2605.42 |
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差不多的數量去計算 |
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2605.42 |
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2606.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
沒關係啦 |
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2607.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
2608.89 |
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署長 我跟你講 |
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2608.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
2609.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
未來我們一定有時間 |
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2609.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
2610.89 |
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可以證明一切 |
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2610.89 |
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2612.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
我要拜託部長的就是 |
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2612.39 |
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2614.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
其實婚育宅 尤其是政府新建的 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
2614.89 |
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2616.89 |
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真的可以讓人民的心理 |
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2616.89 |
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2617.89 |
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可以比較安心 |
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2617.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
2620.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
我舉個例子 我有一個朋友 |
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2620.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
2622.39 |
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他本來一直想要生小孩 |
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2622.39 |
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2623.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
他一直在外面租房 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
2623.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
2624.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
一直生不出小孩 |
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2624.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
2626.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
後來他住到婚育宅了以後 |
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2626.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
2628.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
那個太太他心裡就非常的輕鬆 |
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2628.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
2629.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
覺得他有一個 |
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2629.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
2631.39 |
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可以住12年以上的房子 |
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2631.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
2633.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
後來就順利懷孕了 |
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2633.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
2635.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
這就是為什麼新建社會住宅 |
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2635.89 |
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2637.89 |
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比在外面租房子 |
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2637.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
2640.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
我認為真的對 |
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2642.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
2644.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
民眾的心理的影響 |
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2644.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
2645.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
真的差非常的多 |
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2645.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
2648.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
那接下來我要請教這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
2648.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
2649.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
2649.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
2650.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
我還是跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
2650.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
2652.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
婚育宅真的不是只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
2652.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
2653.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
直接從樹地興建 |
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2653.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
2654.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
我們剛剛有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
2654.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
2657.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
現在只要是分分為一 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
2657.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
2659.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
他可以住至少12年 |
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2659.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
2660.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
是 沒有錯 |
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2660.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
2661.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
條件都沒有改 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
2661.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
2662.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
如果是高階高端的婚育宅的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
2662.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
2663.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
請問住多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
2663.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
2664.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
都一樣 |
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2664.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
2665.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
可以住12年嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
2665.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
2666.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
只要是婚育宅符合資格 |
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2666.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
2667.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
租金補貼的可以住12年嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
2667.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
2668.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
2668.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
2670.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
只要是婚育宅符合資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
2670.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
2672.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
房東會願意讓一般的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
2672.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
2673.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
不是一般民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
2673.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
2675.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
跟婚育宅裡面的青年族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
2675.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
2677.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
所有權人是政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
2677.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
2679.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
一般房東是私人 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
2679.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
2680.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
他怎麼可能願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
2680.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
2681.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
讓你一般人住12年 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
2681.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
2683.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
所以部長我要跟您報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
2684.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
2686.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
這個想法非常不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
2686.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
2688.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
所以請還是要回去好好檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
2688.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
2690.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
那接下來實際的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
2690.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
2690.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
我還是要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
2690.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
2692.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
最近大家最關心的一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
2692.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
2694.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
就是包租代管龍頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
2694.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
2698.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
造基屋管有限公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
2698.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
2699.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
股份有限公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
2699.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
2700.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
他最近發生了 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
2700.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
2702.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
這樣子的一個非常大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
2702.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
2704.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
他是現在全台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
2704.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
2706.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
包租代管的龍頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
2706.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
2707.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
他所掌管的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
2707.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
2708.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
包括他的子公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
2708.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
2709.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
造基投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
2709.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
2711.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
寄居縣管理股份有分公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
2711.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
2713.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
他的整個行話的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
2713.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
2714.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
有18個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
2714.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
2716.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
他總共的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
2716.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
2717.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
2萬8千件以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
2717.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
2719.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
市占率占60% |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
2719.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
2720.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
所以我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
2720.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
2722.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
市占率占60% |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
2722.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
2723.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
我們看到今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
2723.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
2725.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
所有我們的報告書裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
2725.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
2726.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
完全沒有寫到 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
2728.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
2729.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
有關於現在這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
2729.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
2732.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
只有寫說是私人非法爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
2732.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
2734.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
等等相關的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
2734.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
2735.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
我想要請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
2735.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
2737.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
這個內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
2737.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
2738.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
2738.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
2740.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
不是因為他跟政府合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
2740.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
2743.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
他在網站上都說他跟政府合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
2743.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
2745.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
所以他才可以推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
2745.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
2747.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
現在他所最重要的包租代管業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
2747.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
2749.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
所以你們如果報告只有寫這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
2749.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
2752.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
是不是行政有卸責的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
2752.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
2753.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
你們評選 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
2753.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
2754.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
到底有沒有在護航 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
2754.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
2755.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
請部長回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
2755.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
2756.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
2756.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
2757.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
我想您講的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
2757.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
2759.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
有一部分不是事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
2759.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
2761.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
第一個我們在第一時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
2761.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
2762.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
發生這個事情的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
2762.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
2765.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
就已經了解他已經設法 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
2765.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
2766.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
那既然是設法的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
2766.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
2767.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
我們就尊重司法的偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
2767.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
2769.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
不予評論任何設法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
2769.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
2771.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
只知道說他是私募公司在 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
2771.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
2773.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
那這個部分是牽涉到公司法 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
2773.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
2775.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
跟金融管理機構應該處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
2775.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
2778.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
但是就我們在處理包租代管業務上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
2778.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
2781.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
我們要先確保包租代管業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
2781.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
2782.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
是不是合法 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
2782.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
2784.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
還有我們現在的房東房客的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
2784.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
2786.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
有沒有受到改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
2786.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
2787.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
到目前為止這兩項 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
2787.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
2789.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
都是還是在可控的風險之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
2791.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
2792.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
2792.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
2794.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
這怎麼會說是可控的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
2794.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
2795.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
過去來講這些案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
2795.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
2797.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
都是由政府公開招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
2797.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
2800.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
民眾他願意把他自己的房子拿出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
2800.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
2802.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
就是因為政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
2802.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
2803.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
他相信政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
2803.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
2805.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
所以才可以讓這家公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
2805.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
2807.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
有這麼多兩萬八千件以上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
2807.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
2809.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
這個整個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
2809.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
2810.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
那你現在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
2810.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
2813.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
你要如何讓這些房東房客安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
2813.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
2814.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
你要怎麼去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
2814.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
2815.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
你現在要 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
2815.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
2816.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
2816.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
2817.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
要讓私人公司接手嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
2817.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
2819.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
那誰可以掛保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
2819.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
2821.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
未來所有的問題不會有產生問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
2821.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
2822.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
2822.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
2825.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
你們有沒有依照相關法律的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
2825.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
2826.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
去做財務上的監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
2826.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
2828.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
我們當然都是依法行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
2828.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
2829.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
你們如何監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
2829.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
2831.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
2831.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
2833.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
我們現在在轉嫌上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
2833.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
2835.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
基居協已經請 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
2835.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
2836.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
基居協已經聲明說 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
2836.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
2839.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
他現在完全沒有辦法繼續營運公司了 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
2839.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
2842.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
結果造基公司他的銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
2842.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
2846.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
已經有相關的被查封的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
2846.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
2848.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
被警示帳戶的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
2848.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
2849.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
那我現在如何解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
2849.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
2852.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
那我是不是請董事長跟您報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
2852.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
2853.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
2854.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
2855.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
祝福董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
2856.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
2857.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
好 祝福董 祝福董 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
2857.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
2859.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
等一下 等一下主席時間暫停一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
2860.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
2862.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
這個就是我今天要問主席的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
2863.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
2864.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
不要 不是我 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
2864.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
2866.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
等一下 我要請教主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
2866.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
2872.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
今天各部會裡面每一個單位都有提供專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
2872.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
2875.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
可是我沒有看到國家住都州區的專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
2876.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
2877.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
我想請教主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
2877.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
2879.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
他是不是沒有尊重我們委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
2879.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
2882.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
請問各位委員手上有沒有拿到住都中心的專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
2883.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
2885.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
各位報告委員並沒有要求我們要提專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
2885.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
2887.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
你來開會來講這個社宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
2889.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
2892.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
包租代管的部分說沒有提供專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
2892.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
2893.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
那我們今天怎麼開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
2895.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
2896.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
這委員可以詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
2896.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
2899.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
因為我們並沒有被要求要來提專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
2899.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
2903.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
你今天有列在出席的名單上面嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
2903.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
2905.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
沒有 我們是出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
2905.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
2907.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
但是討論的議題裡面並沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
2907.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
2908.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
沒有 沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
2908.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
2911.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
你寫說是因為你認為是司法爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
2911.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
2912.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
所以你覺得跟你沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
2912.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
2914.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
所以今天不提專案報告嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
2916.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
2918.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
當然是跟我們有關所以我才來 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
2918.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
2919.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
我才會來跟委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
2920.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
2922.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
請問主席他有沒有提供專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
2922.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
2924.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
沒有委員拿到你的專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
2925.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
2927.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
所以我是不是等你提供專案報告以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
2927.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
2928.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
再上來提 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
2928.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
2930.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
開會通知上面並沒有提到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
2930.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
2931.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
我們這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
2931.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
2935.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
今天講的有關於社宅包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
2936.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
2937.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
內政部長都特別在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
2937.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
2940.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
他覺得包租代管就是現在百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
2941.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
2943.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
這個租屋補貼的政策之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
2943.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
2944.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
今天沒有提供專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
2944.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
2946.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
然後我們現在看到社會上 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
2946.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
2948.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
針對造基物管這麼大的一個風波 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
2948.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
2951.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
影響到兩萬八千件物管的事情上 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
2951.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
2953.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
造基造基只有一萬五千件 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
2953.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
2954.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
並沒有兩萬八千件 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
2954.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
2956.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
還包含他的子公司沒有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
2956.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
2957.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
他沒有子公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
2957.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
2959.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
基居卸就是基居卸 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
2959.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
2960.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
造基就是造基 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
2960.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
2961.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
他沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
2962.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
2964.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
這個部分我沒有辦法替他們回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
2964.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
2965.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
但是就反正目前沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
2965.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
2966.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
好還是給 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
2966.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
2967.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
那給董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
2967.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
2968.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
既然你都沒有提供專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
2968.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
2970.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
那我看你要怎麼回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
2970.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
2972.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
那我請教一下針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
2973.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
2975.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
這個我們的房東跟房客 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
2975.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
2976.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
他現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
2976.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
2977.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
你們有沒有過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
2977.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
2979.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
到底你們有沒有查核這家公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
2979.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
2980.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
他的財務狀況有沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
2980.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
2983.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
那我們現在針對他的租金跟押金 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
2983.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
2986.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
跟整個未來移轉的部分產生問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
2986.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
2987.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
比如說我舉例 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
2987.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
2989.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
有些的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
2989.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
2991.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
你要怎麼去分配給這六家 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
2991.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
2994.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
你們現在講的這個民間的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
2994.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
2997.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
六都一共九十家業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
2997.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
2998.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
你們怎麼分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
2998.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3000.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
我們有些案件比較好 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
3000.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
3001.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
有些案件比較不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
3001.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3002.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
你們怎麼分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
3002.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
3003.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
3003.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
3005.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
其實我們在前天已經開始啟動這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
3005.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3007.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
轉型的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
3007.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
3009.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
那當然第一個是有我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
3009.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3010.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
我們在住中心的網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
3010.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
3013.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
有開通一個需求協助登記的一個表單 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
3013.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
3017.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
那房東可以上網來填這個表單 |
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3017.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3020.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
上面就會有所有可以服務業者的名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
3020.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3022.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
第一個他可以自己選 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
3022.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3024.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
他要找誰來服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
3024.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3026.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
第二個如果他沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
3026.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3028.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
特別編號哪一家業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
3028.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3029.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
那我們會依照 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3029.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3033.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
這一些沒有特別編號的這些房東的順序 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
3033.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3036.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
那就依照業者的順序來輪配 |
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3036.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3038.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
所以說這個部分的制度都已經建立起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
3038.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3039.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
而且已經運作了兩天 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
3039.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3041.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
目前非常的順暢 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
3041.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3042.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
好謝謝花董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
3042.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3044.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
花董事長最後問你一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
3044.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3047.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
我相信政府是相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
3047.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3051.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
這個我是相信政府才有這麼多的房客 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
3051.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3053.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
房東來去加入這樣子的一個專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
3053.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3054.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
最後我請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3054.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3056.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
你們未來針對這家公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
3056.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3058.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
有沒有一個處罰的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
3060.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3063.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
我想因為基居縣目前剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
3063.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3066.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
他們負責人已經表示他無法營運 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
3066.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3068.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
所以我們當然第一個優先是把賬房 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3068.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3072.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
當房客的權益來執行這個服務業的轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
3072.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3074.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
你們過去有對他的財務差合嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3074.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3075.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
其實根本報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3075.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3079.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
本質上我們當然都會做業者的評鑑 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3079.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3083.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
但是所有業者他內部的財務狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3083.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3085.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
那基本上已經不是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3085.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3087.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
只是執行包租到業務底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3087.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3090.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
我們能夠查的範圍是有限的 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3090.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3095.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
所以說特別是他的董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3095.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3097.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
私人在外的另外的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
3097.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3100.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
更不涉及包租代管業務本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
3100.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3102.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
那這個部門在實務上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3102.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3103.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
確實沒有權利去查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3103.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3105.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
我最後還是要拜託董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3105.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3106.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
他是特許的行業 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3106.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3108.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
所以政府還是要有監管的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3108.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3110.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
現在看到這麼多的受害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3110.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3111.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
他們質詢自修會 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3111.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3113.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
希望說董事長這邊一定要盡速 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3113.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3115.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
來解決相關的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3115.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3116.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
也確保房東房客 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3116.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3118.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
以及整體租屋市場的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3118.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3119.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3126.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3128.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
我們現在會請許中信委員發言直選 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3137.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3141.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
各位同仁我們有請劉思芳劉部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3146.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3147.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3147.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3148.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
徐委員你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3148.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3149.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3150.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3155.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
聽說您17年要降格為千戶大人 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3155.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3156.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3156.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3158.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
千戶大人日本的愛里長 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3159.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3161.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
你是中央的部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3161.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3165.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
千萬不要在117年變成千戶大人 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3166.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3167.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
謝謝委員行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3169.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3173.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
社會素材的興建急速的跳票下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3173.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3176.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
造成我們造機投資者 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3180.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3182.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
誘發穩健投資人 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3182.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3186.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
購買高利息的私募公司債額受害 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3186.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3188.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
駐都中心則無旁貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3189.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3191.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
這個法律關係如何來理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3192.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3195.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
我做了一個體系圖來跟部長做報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3196.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3201.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
當我們根據公司法248條私募公司債的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3201.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3202.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
它有兩種情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3204.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3205.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
當它有擔保 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3206.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3207.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
這個公司在穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3207.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3209.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
所以它是低利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3211.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3214.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
不論公司做高風險低風險投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3214.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3216.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
它都是低利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3216.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3219.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
因為它穩定可以本金利息可以回收 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3220.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3222.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
但是當私募公司債 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3222.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3224.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
無擔保的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3225.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3227.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
正常情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3227.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3229.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
它會低利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3230.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3232.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
公司做低風險投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3233.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3235.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
這個時候投資人 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3235.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3238.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
他們是仰賴發行公司的債信 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3238.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3242.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
將來會緩緩它本金跟利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3243.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3245.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
但是當無擔保公司債 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3245.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3247.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
有高利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3247.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3250.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
包括我們寄金稅年息10.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3251.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3259.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
年息高利息以及造基12%年息的高利息的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3260.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3262.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
如果公司做高風險投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
3264.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3265.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3266.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3269.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
它買公司債其實類似買股票 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
3269.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3271.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
也就是我表格裡面最下一行 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
3271.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3274.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
但是當它獲得這樣一個高利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
3276.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3279.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
它本來是要投資一個低風險的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
3280.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3283.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
結果卻被李建成掏空而受害 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3283.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3285.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
這個時候有玄機了 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3285.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3287.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
為什麼這些投資人 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3288.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3290.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
它要獲高利 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3291.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3293.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
10% |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3292.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3295.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
10.5%到12%的利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3295.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3296.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
就是高利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3296.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3297.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
我們現在平均利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3298.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3301.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
利息銀行大12%而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3301.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3303.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
所以很顯然它是高利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3303.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3305.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
當然很多人趨之若鶩 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3306.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3308.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
趨之若鶩的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3308.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3311.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
沒有想到李建成會掏空變成受害 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3313.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3317.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
那他們為什麼要去做這個投資呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3317.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3318.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
有兩個關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3318.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3319.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
人跟物 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3321.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3326.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
就是剛才部長您被講成117年 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3326.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3329.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
要變成千戶大人這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3329.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3332.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
也就是政府少建社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3332.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
3337.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
增多包租代管的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
3337.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
3340.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
增多包租代管的業務讓這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
3340.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
3342.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
公司在的投資人認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
3342.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
3347.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
造機不管是造機造機還是寄居縣 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
3348.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
3350.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
他們的包租業 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
3350.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
3353.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
這個包租代管的業務會穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
3353.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
3355.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
的增加或是穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
3356.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
3358.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
所以這是物的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
3358.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
3361.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
也就是政府的社會住宅的跳票 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
3361.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
3364.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
多包租代管這個趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
3364.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
3367.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
被公司在的投資人 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
3367.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
3370.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
信以為他做這個公司在投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
3370.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
3373.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
他可以穩定的回收他的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
3374.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
3376.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
那另外就是一個人的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
3376.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
3378.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
這個人的關係呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
3379.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
3381.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
我們根據媒體報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
3382.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
3384.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
我們花鏡群 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
3384.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
3385.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
3386.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
3388.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
跟李建成 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
3388.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
3390.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
你們的關係如何啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
3392.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
3394.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
你們的關係如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
3395.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
3397.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
董事長你跟李建成的關係如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
3401.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
3403.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
3403.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
3405.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
包委員當然就是因為從事 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
3405.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
3408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
他從事社會住宅包租代管工作之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
3408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
3409.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
彼此才認識 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
3410.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
3412.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
這一疊資料是受害人拿出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
3413.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
3415.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
跟我申訴的他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
3415.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
3417.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
私募公司在的資料這麼大疊 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
3417.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
3419.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
我全部看完 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
3419.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
3421.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
全部做了EARMARK |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
3424.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
3426.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
據我推測您 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
3425.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
3427.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
花鏡 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
3427.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
3429.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
應該是我們台南後幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
3429.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
3431.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
3430.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
3432.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
那邊有花鏡 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
3433.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
3435.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
所以我跟你無怨無仇 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
3436.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
3438.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
所以今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
3439.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
3441.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
我們是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
3440.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
3442.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
了解這些投資人 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
3442.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
3445.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
為什麼要來做這樣一個投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
3445.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
3447.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
3447.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
3450.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
造基公司這麼多年來做的社會住宅包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
3450.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
3454.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
其實三分之二是縣市政府的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
3454.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
3456.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
三分之一是中央政府的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
3456.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
3459.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
所以說造基過去的經營業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
3459.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
3462.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
被民眾信任的基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
3462.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
3467.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
其實有三分之二是來自縣市政府包租代管的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
3468.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
3471.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
所以說不能把這樣子的說好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
3471.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
3473.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
這是我的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
3473.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
3475.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
你跟李建成的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
3475.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
3477.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
根據您的媒體回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
3477.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
3479.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
你說跟他只爬過一次山 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
3479.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
3480.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
3480.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
3482.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
但是媒體的報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
3482.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
3485.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
是說你們是經常爬山的山友 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
3485.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
3487.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
那是委員你們說的吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
3487.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
3489.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
媒體為什麼這樣說我不知道啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
3489.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
3491.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
就是這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
3491.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
3493.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
也就是說你不殺博人 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
3493.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
3495.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
博人因你而死 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
3495.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
3497.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
媒體報導也是這幾天的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
3497.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
3500.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
但是投資人投資這些公司債 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
3500.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
3502.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
是前幾年的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
3502.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
3503.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
他怎麼會有關係呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
3503.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
3505.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
這個是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
3505.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
3507.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
當媒體這樣報導的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
3508.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
3510.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
我們很多人這樣講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
3510.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
3512.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
我發董事長跟李建成的關係回前 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
3512.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
3516.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
我想我這個人是非上二分別的很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
3516.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
3518.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
我今天也是要了解市府 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
3518.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
3521.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
所以說請相信我這個人對是非上二的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
3521.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
3525.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
我剛才講到你很殺博人博人因你而死 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
3525.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
3527.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
媒體報導你跟李建成的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
3527.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
3529.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
可能博人是因你而死不是因我而死啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
3529.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
3531.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
投資人 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
3532 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
3534 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
看到你跟李的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
3534 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
3537 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
看到我們少建社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
3537 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
3538 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
你是島國委員了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
3538 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
3540 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
這幾天的報導就是這幾天 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
3540 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
3543 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
投資人是過去幾年的決策 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
3543 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
3546 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
投資人怎麼會看到我跟李建成 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
3546 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
3548 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
被媒體報導的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
3548.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
3550.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
不是只有媒體報導的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
3550.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
3552.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
也就是說你跟李建成剛才你的答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
3552.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
3554.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
就講到因為包租代管的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
3554.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
3556.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
你跟他熟悉什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
3556.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
3558.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
我想柯文哲跟他更熟吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
3558.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
3560.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
3560.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
3562.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
那就去問嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
3562.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
3565.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
董事長我們造機大概包租代管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
3565.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
3567.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
有三成由他們得標 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
3567.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
3569.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
大概有三成由他們得標 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
3569.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
3571.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
沒有兩成 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
3571.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
3573.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
沒關係兩成三成都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
3573.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
3577.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
但是台北市政府造機的比重更高啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
3577.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
3579.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
新北市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
3579.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
3581.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
桃園市政府台中市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
3581.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
3583.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
麻煩我們去查一查 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
3583.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
3585.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
我們都全部來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
3585.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
3587.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
那就不需要說只有我有關係嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
3587.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
3589.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
您跟李建成的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
3589.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
3591.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
以及政府少建社 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
3591.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
3594.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
我跟李建成就是因為業務上面認識 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
3594.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
3596.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
彼此為了推動業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
3596.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
3601.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
有些時候跟產業一起在開貨的時候會一起討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
3601.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
3605.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
那一次的爬山就是造機公司邀請了產業界 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
3605.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
3609.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
二三十位朋友一起在評登裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
3609.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
3610.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
就這麼一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
3610.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
3616.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
那你要把它說到好像我們有怎麼樣子的幕後黑手等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
3616.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
3619.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
我覺得好像有點超過太多了吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
3619.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
3621.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
比例關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
3621.59 |
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3623.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
因為這個人的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
3623.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
3627.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
跟社會住宅少建而多包租代管的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
3627.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
3631.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
讓投資人認為他們這是一個穩健投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
3631.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
3633.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
固定的造機 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
3633.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
3636.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
社會住宅包租代管本來就是一個非常穩健的投資標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
3636.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
3641.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
所以說絕大多數的業者都穩健經營當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
3641.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
3643.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
所以現在就受害 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
3643.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
3645.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
所以這是他個人的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
3645.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
3647.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
何不是這個行業的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
3647.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
3649.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
不管是造機或是寄居蟹 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
3649.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
3651.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
公司在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
3651.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
3653.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
公司在使用目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
3653.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
3655.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
都是要做包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
3655.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
3657.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
捷運包租代管等業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
3657.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
3659.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
沒有做其他的方式投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
3661.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
3663.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
那為什麼他們投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
3663.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
3667.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
他已經不是包租代管的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
3667.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
3669.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
那是公司在相關的監理的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
3669.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
3671.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
這個是這樣喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
3671.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
3675.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
我們這些公司在募集有他的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
3675.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
3677.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
你們把它謀做高風險的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
3677.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
3679.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
不是我們啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
3679.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
3681.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
是他不是我們啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
3681.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
3683.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
我沒有在那個門裡面啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
3682.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
3684.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
的確是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
3684.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
3686.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
但是造機 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
3685.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
3689.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
跟寄居蟹把這些穩健的公司在 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
3689.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
3691.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
拿來做高風險的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
3692.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
3694.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
欸 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
3693.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
3695.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
3695.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
3697.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
您的再信 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
3697.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
3699.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
我們住都中心的再信 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
3699.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
3701.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
被業者用來 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
3701.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
3703.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
作為投資的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
3703.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
3705.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
包委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
3705.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
3707.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
社會住宅包租代管政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
3707.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
3709.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
不等於國家住都中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
3711.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
3713.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
3713.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
3717.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
你硬要把這些東西扯到我的身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
3717.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
3719.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
扯到住都中心身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
3719.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
3721.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
其實我覺得你學法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
3721.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
3723.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
你是法律系大教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
3723.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
3725.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
你不應該有這樣的邏輯觀念 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
3725.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
3727.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
我就是因為學法我才知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
3727.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
3729.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
所以你的邏輯很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
3729.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
3731.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
投資人就是因為有人的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
3731.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
3733.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
有物的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
3733.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
3735.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
他才願意來私募這個公司在 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
3735.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
3737.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
他以為他是穩健投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
3737.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
3739.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
可以每年10.5%的利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
3739.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
3741.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
結果卻被掏空 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
3741.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
3743.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
3743.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
3745.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
就是因為我學法才知道公司在 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
3745.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
3747.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
之所以能夠被 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
3747.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
3749.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
喜歡投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
3749.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
3751.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
他本來他要做穩健投資的結果他現在受害 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
3754.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
3756.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
我們怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
3756.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
3758.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
所以他跟包租代管優越推動一點關係都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
3758.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
3760.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
他是拿到那筆錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
3760.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
3761.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
的 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
3761.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
3763.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
他是不可以用那筆錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
3763.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
3765.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
他沒有人他不少 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
3765.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
3767.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
3766.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
3768.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
3768.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
3770.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
我很遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
3770.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
3772.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
陳大教授是這樣子來分析理論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
3772.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
3774.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
我很遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
3774.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
3776.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
我至少我不遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
3777.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
3779.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
我今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
3779.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
3781.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
分析這個公司在之所以能夠有吸引力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
3782.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
3784.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
就是有人的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
3784.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
3786.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
跟這個物也就是我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
3786.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
3788.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
3787.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
3789.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
所以投資人認為我來投資這個有利可圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
3789.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
3791.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
所以他來投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
3796.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
3798.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
您走旁邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
3799.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
3801.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
我尊重委員的質詢和說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
3801.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
3803.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
但是道理或事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
3803.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
3805.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
只有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
3805.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
3807.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
邏輯怎麼樣是對的也只有一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
3807.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
3809.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
我尊重您 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
3809.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
3811.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
至少還可以三次記者會跟各位公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
3811.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
3813.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
裡面的事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
3814.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
3816.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
最後一疊資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
3816.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
3818.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
我親自讀裡面至少還有三個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
3818.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
3820.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
我要跟你請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
3821.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
3823.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
謝謝我們董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
3823.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
3825.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
3832.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
3834.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
我們下一位請黃捷委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
3839.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
3841.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
謝謝主席我們請劉部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
3848.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
3850.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
好部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
3850.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
3852.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
可以先跟您請教大家都很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
3852.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
3854.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
這個社宅的目標的戶數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
3854.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
3856.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
到底有沒有跳票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
3856.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
3858.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
因為其實大家知道說蔡政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
3858.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
3860.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
原本是12加8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
3860.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
3862.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
12萬戶的社宅直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
3862.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
3864.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
新建加上8萬的包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
3864.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
3866.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
那目前已經達標了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
3866.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
3868.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
那在賴政府時期也希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
3868.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
3870.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
這個直接新建的目標 |
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3870.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
3872.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
是13萬戶但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
3872.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
3874.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
民間有傳出說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
3874.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
3876.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
我們13萬戶會變成3萬戶是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
3876.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
3878.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
真的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
3878.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
3880.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
報告委員這就是我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
3880.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
3882.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
特別針對媒體要做澄清的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
3882.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
3884.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
賴總統他現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
3884.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
3886.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
所同意的這個13萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
3886.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
3888.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
我剛有提過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
3888.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
3890.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
直接新辦會改成多元新辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
3890.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
3892.09 |
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但是13萬戶就是13萬戶 |
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3892.09 |
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3894.09 |
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但是這需要時間 |
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3894.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
3896.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
所謂的多元新辦我剛有特別提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
3896.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
3898.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
因為我們未來呢 |
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3898.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
3900.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
增加社宅的部分包括從都更 |
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3900.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
3902.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
或者其他的部分都會增加在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
3902.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
3904.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
婚育宅上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
3904.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
3906.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
這是一個改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
3906.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
3908.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
那這中間的改變還包括我們在去年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
3908.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
3910.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
修正了住宅法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
3910.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
3912.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
所以我們根據修的法律還有根據我們提的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
3912.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
3914.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
但是13萬戶的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
3914.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
3916.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
在未來的這個到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
3916.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
3918.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
如果賴總統是有8年任期的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
3918.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
3920.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
這個目標是沒有變化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
3920.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
3922.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
好謝謝部長的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
3922.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
3924.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
所以13萬戶目標不變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
3925.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
3927.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
那這個13萬戶的數字是從何而來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
3927.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
3929.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
13萬戶的部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
3929.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
3931.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
我們在這個第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
3931.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
3933.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
我們要抱怨的時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
3933.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
3935.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
他是一個正在炒泥的炒案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
3935.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
3937.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
那正在炒泥的炒案當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
3937.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
3939.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
國土署的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
3939.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
3941.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
會跟地方縣市政府來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
3941.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
3943.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
就是說你們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
3943.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
3945.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
有沒有盤點適合的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
3945.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
3947.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
或者是整開整體開發計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
3947.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
3949.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
或者是都市更新等等這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
3949.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
3951.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
所以才會有這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
3951.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
3953.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
13萬戶的出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
3953.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
3955.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
那今天我可以請國土署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
3955.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
3957.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
跟您做一個簡單的回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
3957.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
3959.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
3959.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
3961.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
那我們每次在做這些社宅的數量盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
3961.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
3963.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
一定會跟地方政府做一些開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
3963.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
3965.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
那我們會先針對優先土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
3965.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
3967.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
這邊沒有問題的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
3967.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
3969.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
會寫在這個抱怨計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
3969.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
3971.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
抱怨計畫這個部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
3971.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
3973.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
每年都會滾動式檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
3973.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
3975.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
所以我們依照目前既有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
3975.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
3977.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
這個用地的存量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
3977.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
3979.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
跟地方政府協調大概目前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
3979.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
3981.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
一個可以做的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
3981.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
3983.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
這個叫第一階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
3983.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
3985.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
3萬戶叫第一階段他是可以做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
3985.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
3987.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
滾動檢討如果地方政府再繼續盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
3987.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
3989.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
一些整開區的土地再提供出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
3989.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
3991.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
我們會再去核心的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
3991.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
3993.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
所以這個部分其實是這樣在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
3993.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
3995.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
所以他會分很多階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
3995.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
3997.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
好謝謝署長說明其實部長跟署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
3997.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
3999.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
已經講的非常清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
3999.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
4001.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
第一個13萬戶目標不變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
4001.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
4003.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
第二個3萬戶是目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
4003.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
4005.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
第一階段已經盤點出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
4005.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
4007.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
可以做的那剩下的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
4007.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
4009.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
10萬戶是希望說地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
4009.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
4011.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
政府一定要配合嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
4011.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
4013.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
我們陸續配合陸續滾動式的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
4013.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
4015.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
找到更多土地之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
4015.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
4017.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
陸續的達到13萬戶的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
4017.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
4019.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
是不是以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
4019.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
4021.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
除了地方政府配合之外也要拜託大院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
4021.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
4023.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
能夠支持我們有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
4023.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
4025.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
榮獎條例裡面的三個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
4025.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
4027.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
那這個法案如果通過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
4027.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
4029.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
也會刺激比較多的其他民間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
4029.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
4031.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
業者來蓋比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
4031.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
4033.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
是以婚禦宅為主的社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4033.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
4035.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
好謝謝部長的補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
4035.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4037.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
那再來要請教這個租賃條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
4037.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
4039.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
因為其實去年我們租賃條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
4039.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
4041.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
修法的目標其實有三大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
4041.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4043.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
但是呢我們這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
4043.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
4045.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
推出來的三大目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
4045.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4047.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
好像只剩下其中一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
4047.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
4049.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
那去年目標是想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
4049.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
4051.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
第一個是保障三年的租期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
4051.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4053.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
第二個是限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
4053.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
4055.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
這個續約的租金的漲幅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
4055.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4057.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
第三個是強化租賃雙方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
4057.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4059.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
的權益的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4059.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4061.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
可是目前看起來是不是只剩下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4061.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4065.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
強化租賃雙方的權益保障呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
4065.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4067.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
那我必須在這邊要表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
4067.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
4069.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
很多青年朋友的聲音喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
4069.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
4071.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
因為他們其實很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
4071.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
4073.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
居住議題的團體跟青年朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4073.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4075.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
都表達非常的擔憂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4075.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4077.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
因為覺得說我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4077.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
4079.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
版本如果先上路是不是變成說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4079.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
4081.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
房東先房客後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4081.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4083.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
會不會變成你們所謂的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4083.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4085.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
有共識的部分是跟房東的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
4085.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
4087.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
而不是跟房客的共識呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
4089.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
4091.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
4091.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4093.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
我知道委員非常關心年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
4093.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
4095.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
尤其是單的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
4095.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
4097.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
這個房客之間的權益的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
4097.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
4099.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
所以我們一開始跟很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
4099.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
4101.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
包括委員在內或者是其他的團體的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
4101.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
4103.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
確實是以房客的權益為優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4103.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
4105.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
但是我們在送院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4105.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4107.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
或者是說在很多團體溝通的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4107.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4109.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
我們也知道這個是需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4109.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4111.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
大院同意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4111.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4113.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
那在大院同意的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4113.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4115.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
如果我們把這個修法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4115.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4117.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
就直接推出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4117.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4119.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
那到大院裡面恐怕又引起更多的爭端 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4119.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4121.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
所以我們採取比較保守的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4121.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4123.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
就是能夠過的我們先把它推出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4123.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4125.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
那這個可能跟委員的期待會有落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4125.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
4127.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
那相關的那個修正的修法方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
4127.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4129.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
我是不是請我們地政司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4129.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4131.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
跟委員做個簡單的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
4133.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
4135.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
4137.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4139.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
那第一個部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
4139.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
4141.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
我們現在的話因為就陳盧部長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
4141.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4143.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
我們已經有召開很多會議來做一個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
4143.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4145.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
那現在的話是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
4145.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4147.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
先就有共識的部分來先送出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
4147.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4149.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
那有共識的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
4149.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
4151.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
當然也有包含到保障房客的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
4151.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
4153.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
例如我們現在年輕學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
4153.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
4155.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
或年輕人非常關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
4155.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
4157.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
拒絕租補的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
4157.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
4159.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
那些相關的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
4159.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4161.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
我們都有納在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
4161.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
4163.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
有直接處罰的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
4163.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
4165.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
是我知道嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
4165.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
4167.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
這個房東不可以以任何形式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
4167.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
4169.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
禁止租客申請租補 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
4169.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4171.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
那還有簽戶籍的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4171.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4173.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
也都是要允許的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
4173.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4175.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
那當然還有最後這個租罷條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4175.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4177.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
其實是比較是保障房東的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4177.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4179.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
但是後面的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4179.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4181.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
租期的部分還有租金的漲幅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4181.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4183.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
我不知道說現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4183.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4185.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
障礙在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4185.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4187.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
那接下來會怎麼去陸續推動呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4187.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4189.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
因為其實這兩款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4189.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4191.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
對於年輕人來說是非常非常在意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4191.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4193.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
接下來的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4193.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4195.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
我們也會跟大家來繼續做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4195.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4197.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
溝通討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4197.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4199.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
就是這一次沒有送出來的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4199.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4201.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
包含現在條例裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4201.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4203.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
還有一些要跟司法院討論的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4203.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4205.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
那這個部分我們都會以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4205.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4207.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
都會再持續進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4207.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4209.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
好那我還是在這邊再一次的表達這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4209.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4211.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
因為其實青年團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4211.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4213.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
第一時間就有出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4213.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4215.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
不管是開記者會然後反應給我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4215.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4217.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
他們真的非常關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4217.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4219.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
不希望說到時候租賃條例裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4219.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4221.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
本來說好的三大方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4221.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4223.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
只剩下對房東比較有利的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4223.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4225.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
我希望這個是橫評啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4225.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4227.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
兩邊的權益都要照顧到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4227.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4229.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
這個也是我們當初想要修租賃條例的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4229.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4231.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
這個精神跟目標嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4231.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4233.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
我們會持續再溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4233.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4235.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
跟大家討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4235.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4237.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
謝謝那最後一點時間是不是請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4237.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4239.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
花董事長在針對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4239.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4241.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
召集的部分多做一下說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4241.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4243.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
因為我最擔心的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4243.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4245.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
畢竟召集還是承辦我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4245.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4247.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
包租代管裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4247.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4249.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
其中很大一部分嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4249.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4251.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
那我不希望說因為單一企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4251.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4253.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
他自己經營管理的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4253.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
4255.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
影響到這一些我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4255.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4257.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
政策的目標還有這些相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4257.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4259.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
租客你剛剛說不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4259.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4261.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
2.8萬戶那總共是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
4261.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4263.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
多少戶數受到影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4263.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4265.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
那他們你們都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4265.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4267.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
陸續的協助了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4268.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4270.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4270.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4272.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
我想兩家公司都在並說比較好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
4272.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4274.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
第一個是寄居蟹公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4274.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4276.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
他現在服務案件有6600個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4276.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4278.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
那從前天開始我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4278.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4280.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
已經開始啟動對寄居蟹 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4280.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4282.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
的服務案件轉嫌到其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4282.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4284.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
受財包租代管的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4284.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4286.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
手上目前有90家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4286.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4288.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
業者可以承接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4288.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4290.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
那到今天到現在為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4290.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4292.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
大概已經有400案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4292.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4294.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
已經開始處理中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4294.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4296.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
房東已經保釋意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4296.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4298.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
意願了那我們開始處理中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4298.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4300.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
那預計應該在一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4300.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
4302.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
之內可以把寄居蟹的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
4302.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
4304.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
這6600案把它處理完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
4304.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
4306.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
避免其他的衍生的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
4306.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
4308.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
造機有兩部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
4308.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
4310.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
一部分大概有8500件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
4310.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
4312.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
左右是中央政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
4312.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
4314.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
的社財包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
4314.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
4316.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
另外有7000多件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
4316.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
4318.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
縣市政府就是六都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
4318.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
4320.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
縣市政府的社財包租 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
4320.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
4322.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
代管案件那因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
4322.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
4324.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
這一個禮拜以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
4324.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
4326.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
造機公司內部大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
4326.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
4328.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
從雨晴也看到董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
4328.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
4330.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
有經過幾次的輪換 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
4330.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
4332.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
那前天他們又重新開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
4332.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
4334.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
董事會選出了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
4334.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
4336.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
代理總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
4336.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
4338.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
那已經開始針對他們公司內部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
4338.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
4340.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
的帳戶財務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
4340.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
4342.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
那我們大概一方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
4342.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
4344.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
有跟他直接聯繫去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
4344.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
4346.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
一方面透過媒體了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
4346.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
4348.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
那從現在的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
4348.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
4350.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
是昨天他們本來被警示 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
4350.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
4352.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
的帳戶應該已經被解凍了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
4352.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
4354.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
那今天他們會跟銀行團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
4354.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
4356.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
開會協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
4356.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
4358.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
所有的負債融資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
4358.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
4360.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
重新配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
4360.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
4362.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
那預計他們應該是8月27號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
4362.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
4364.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
會開臨時股東會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
4364.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
4366.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
重新選取新的董監事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
4370.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
4372.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
所以說我們會樂觀的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
4372.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
4374.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
看待最近的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
4374.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
4376.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
那如果說順利的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
4376.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
4378.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
造機公司如果在8月底的董事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
4378.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
4380.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
會能夠把新的董監事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
4380.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
4382.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
選取完畢而且穩定下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
4382.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
4384.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
其實這家公司就沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
4384.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
4386.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
它就可以再回復到正常的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
4386.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
4388.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
底下那這部分我們每天都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
4388.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
4390.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
盯著他們的進度來觀察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
4390.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
4392.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
那繼續去的案子我們每天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
4392.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
4394.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
也都會有新的轉嫌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
4394.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
4396.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
的成績會出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
4396.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
4398.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
所以這個部分相對起來目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
4398.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
4400.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
比較稍微放心但是我們還是會很警惕的看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
4400.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
4402.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
好謝謝黃董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
4402.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
4404.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
這個要再拜託我不希望說我們包租代管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
4404.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
4406.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
政績會因為單一公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
4406.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
4408.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
他自己的經營管理的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
4408.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
4410.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
受到影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
4410.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
4412.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
4416.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
4418.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
我們現在會請張宏祿委員發言諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
4428.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
4430.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
我先請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
4435.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
4437.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
張宏祿委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
4437.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
4439.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
部長就剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
4439.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
4441.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
像趙姬的這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
4441.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
4443.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
4443.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
4445.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
除了這個包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
4445.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
4447.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
是我們政府在推 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
4447.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
4449.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
然後現在其實現在運行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
4449.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
4451.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
也算不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
4451.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
4453.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
那部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
4452.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
4454.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
像這個案子啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
4455.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
4457.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
未來有沒有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
4457.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
4459.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
像我們旅行業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
4459.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
4461.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
這個旅行業者有平保協會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
4461.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
4463.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
4463.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
4465.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
如果這些旅行業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
4465.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
4467.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
出了問題或什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
4467.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
4469.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
其他旅行社的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
4469.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
4471.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
他可以馬上出面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
4471.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
4473.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
承接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
4473.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
4475.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
這個業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
4475.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
4477.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
才不會造成消費者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
4477.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
4479.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
的損失 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
4479.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
4481.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
那我們可不可以朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
4481.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
4483.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
4482.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
4484.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
謝謝委員的指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
4484.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
4486.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
我想委員提出的是非常好的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
4486.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
4488.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
就是由這次的案件裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
4488.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
4490.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
我們發現到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
4490.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
4492.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
第一個包租代管業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
4492.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
4494.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
在我們的租賃條例裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
4494.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
4496.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
他確實是租賃服務業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
4496.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
4498.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
那這個租賃服務業我們以前在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
4498.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
4500.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
訂定的時候並沒有把這個所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
4500.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
4502.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
防避的措施把它提供出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
4502.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
4504.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
那由這次的案件當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
4504.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
4506.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
我們會從這個地方來檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
4506.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
4508.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
那剛剛張委員有特別提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
4508.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
4510.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
仿效向旅行業者這個平保機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
4510.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
4512.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
共同來承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
4512.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
4514.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
出現這個包租代管業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
4514.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
4516.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
對消費者之間的一些若干 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
4516.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
4518.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
這個權益上的損失的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
4518.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
4520.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
我們可以朝這個努力的方向來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
4520.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
4522.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
那另外呢我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
4522.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
4524.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
這個地政司也可以跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
4524.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
4526.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
這個租約的接續 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
4526.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
4528.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
或者是業者的退場機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
4528.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
4530.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
也可以訂定相關的處理機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
4530.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
4532.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
對啦反正這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
4532.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
4534.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
部長也認同嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
4534.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
4536.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
那未來我們就可以大聲的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
4536.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
4538.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
跟全國的人民講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
4538.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
4540.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
只要你是包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
4542.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
4544.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
講法令大家不一定聽得懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
4544.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
4546.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
但是就是像旅行社平保協會這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
4546.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
4548.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
你也不用擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
4548.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
4550.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
對不對 因為講句比較簡單的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
4552.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
4554.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
房子在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
4554.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
4556.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
房東也在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
4556.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
4558.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
租客也在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
4558.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
4560.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
就是中間這個橋樑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
4560.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
4562.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
有獲得保障而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
4562.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
4564.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
這一個風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
4564.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
4566.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
比這個旅行社的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
4566.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
4568.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
有的要直接拿錢出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
4568.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
4570.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
其實這個還比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
4570.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
4572.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
我個人認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
4572.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
4574.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
手續複雜而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
4574.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
4576.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
但金錢的損失還不如這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
4576.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
4578.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
旅行社業者的損失大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
4578.05 |
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4580.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
所以我覺得如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
4580.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
4582.05 |
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我們就可以大聲講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
4582.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
4584.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
然後讓未來這個包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
4584.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
4586.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
房東也放心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
4586.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
4588.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
租客也放心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
4588.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
4590.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
對不對 部長 是不是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
4590.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
4592.05 |
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未來不管是說在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
4592.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
4594.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
我們行政措施上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
4594.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
4596.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
或者是自助的建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
4596.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
4598.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
我們會朝著委員所提供的方向來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
4598.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
4600.05 |
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好 那另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
4600.93 |
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4602.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
這個部長 這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
4602.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
4604.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
租金補貼 我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
4604.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
4606.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
違建戶這一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
4606.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
4608.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
4608.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
4610.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
這個寬限期是到年底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
4610.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
4612.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
我不知道這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
4612.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
4614.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
我們現在處理的怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
4614.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
4616.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
尤其委員所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
4616.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
4618.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
關心的類似 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
4618.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
4620.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
頂加這樣的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
4620.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
4622.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
我是請我們的國土署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
4622.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
4624.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
跟委員來做一下簡單的數據上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
4624.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
4626.93 |
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不用啦 就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
4626.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
4628.93 |
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有什麼處理就好了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
4628.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
4630.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
我們這個目前寬限期到今年底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
4630.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
4632.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
那因為有一些要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
4632.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
4634.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
一些社會單位去關懷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
4634.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
4636.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
地方政府去關懷 目前還在持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
4636.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
4638.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
那但是我們接到地方政府的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
4638.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
4640.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
一些反應 他是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
4640.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
4642.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
有些還是需要再繼續去幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
4642.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
4644.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
他們是希望到明年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
4644.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
4646.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
底 所以我們目前也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
4646.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
4648.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
研議中 這個部分還沒有簽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
4648.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
4650.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
部長那邊 我們有在研議中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
4650.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
4652.93 |
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好 我記得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
4652.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
4654.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
我之前就有說過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
4654.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
4656.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
這個問題我也支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
4656.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
4658.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
但很多鄉下地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
4658.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
4660.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
尤其是偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
4660.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
4662.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
你記得我之前有講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
4662.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
4664.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
你要叫他現在去找一個合法的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
4664.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
4666.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
他可能找不到喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
4666.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
4668.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
鄉下都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
4668.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
4670.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
你要 有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
4670.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
4672.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
有的房子可能也比 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
4673.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
4675.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
這個政府成立還久 但他可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
4675.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
4677.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
他就是違建 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
4677.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
4679.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
這個問題啦 所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
4679.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
4681.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
我也覺得啦 如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
4681.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
4683.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
還有一個寬限 我覺得啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
4683.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
4685.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
這個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
4685.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
4687.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
如果啊 在都會區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
4687.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
4689.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
4689.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
4691.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
郊區 我覺得啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
4691.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
4693.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
我們是不是應該有不同的標準來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
4693.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
4695.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
然後把它處理好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
4695.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
4697.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
謝謝委員 委員對於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
4697.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
4699.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
弱勢的家庭 尤其是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
4699.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
4701.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
委員也提到 會住在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
4701.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
4703.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
頂加的人可能他在經濟上相對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
4703.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
4705.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
弱勢 所以我們本來就有一年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
4705.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
4707.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
寬限 其實我們內政部跟衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
4707.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
4709.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
從社會福利的角度或是社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
4709.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
4711.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
救助的角度來處理這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
4711.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
4713.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
那現在呢 我們去盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
4713.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
4715.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
出來 大概總共有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
4715.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
4717.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
全台灣 全台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
4717.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
4719.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
集合出來 大概有四百多戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
4719.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
4721.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
四百多戶的話 會列為專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
4721.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
4723.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
的列館 那如果像委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
4723.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
4725.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
剛剛所說的 第一個偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
4725.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
4727.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
第二個呢 他可能在居住上面呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
4727.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
4729.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
沒有其他的是屬於安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
4729.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
4731.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
上面的顧慮的話 我們大概會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
4731.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
4733.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
專案來輔導 來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
4733.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
4735.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
那這個這個 只要地方縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
4735.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
4737.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
或者是衛福部不會太反對的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
4737.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
4739.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
我們會樂觀啟程來繼續協助他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
4739.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
4741.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
4741.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
4743.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
那另外啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
4743.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
4745.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
這個啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
4745.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
4747.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
部長 我們啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
4747.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
4749.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
這個啦 這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
4749.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
4751.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
社宅的興建啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
4751.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
4753.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
我們這個啦 預計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
4753.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
4755.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
這個二十五萬戶 這個目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
4755.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
4757.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
應該沒有改變吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
4758.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
4760.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
總統加在一起 這個目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
4760.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
4762.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
目標一定是沒有改變的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
4762.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
4764.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
沒有改變啦齁 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
4765.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
4767.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
現在啊齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
4767.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
4769.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
有一些聲音說什麼變了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
4769.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
4771.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
變了什麼三萬什麼 我個人看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
4771.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
4773.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
的資料啊 覺得不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
4773.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
4775.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
那個是現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
4775.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
4777.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
現階段可以馬上做跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
4777.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
4779.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
政府已經確定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
4779.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
4781.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
這個是三萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
4781.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
4783.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
這個就是已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
4783.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
4785.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
我們的要蓋的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
4785.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
4787.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
但是這一個是早就 這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
4787.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
4789.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
已經說可以定案 可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
4789.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
4791.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
趕快來實施的 這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
4791.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
4793.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
應該是說 已經賣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
4793.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
4795.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
出了三萬戶了 應該是這樣講吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
4795.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
4797.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
因為我們要跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
4797.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
4799.51 |
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政府多做溝通 所以才會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
4799.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
4801.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
出現這樣的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
4801.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
4803.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
但是這個三萬戶就是地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
4803.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
4805.51 |
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政府也都OK了 我們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
4805.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
4807.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
馬上要賣出了 馬上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
4807.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
4809.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
要開始了 等於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
4809.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
4811.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
我們的十幾萬 我們這三萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
4811.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
4813.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
已經要開始了 應該是這樣才對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
4813.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
4815.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
這個就是跟地方政府都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
4815.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
4817.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
溝通好 用地沒有問題 所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
4817.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
4819.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
我們要開始啟動所有的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
4819.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
4821.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
發包作業 設計作業等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
4821.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
4823.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
對嘛 所以應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
4823.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
4825.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
我們的十幾萬戶目標不變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
4825.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
4827.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
但是這三萬戶已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
4827.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
4829.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
已經要啟動了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
4829.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
4831.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
對不對 應該是這樣子才 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
4831.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
4833.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
才對嘛 像我們到下半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
4833.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
4835.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
又會再跟地方政府檢討 那明年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
4835.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
4837.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
後年有沒有再增加的 因為他們土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
4837.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
4839.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
會慢慢配合 整開區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
4839.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
4841.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
或者是都市就要變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
4841.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
4843.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
會慢慢的去取得 所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
4843.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
4845.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
我們一直在檢討 對嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
4845.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
4847.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
所以我說的沒錯嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
4847.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
4849.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
這應該是第一階段已經要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
4849.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
4851.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
來做的嘛 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
4851.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
4853.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
我覺得這個可能也要說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
4853.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
4855.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
讓大家了解啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
4855.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
4857.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
好不好 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
4857.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
4859.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
那就這樣 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
4861.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
4863.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
好 謝謝張宏祿委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
4863.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
4865.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
現在請廖欣祥委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
4873.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
4875.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
謝謝主席 麻煩請我們劉部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
4879.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
4881.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
周維豪 部長早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
4881.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
4883.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
前一陣子媒體受訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
4883.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
4885.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
有一段話 它當然媒體大概濃縮成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
4885.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
4887.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
這一句啦 就是找到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
4887.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
4889.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
空地就蓋 恐成空魚屋嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
4889.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
4891.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
大概有這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
4891.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
4893.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
言論發表沒錯嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
4893.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
4895.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
我想不是這個意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
4895.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
4897.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
我覺得這個是有點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
4897.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
4899.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
掐頭掐尾 我的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
4899.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
4901.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
就是我們曾經在好多次的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
4901.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
4903.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
住宅的公聽會裡面有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
4903.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
4905.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
目前對於社會住宅需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
4905.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
4907.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
比較大的會集中在北北逃中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
4907.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
4909.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
這幾個土地稀缺的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
4911.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
4913.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
那因為在蔡總統的任內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
4913.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
4915.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
全台灣的22個縣市都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
4915.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
4917.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
蓋了這個社會住宅 那如果我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
4917.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
4919.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
再繼續在比較偏鄉的地區 因為偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
4919.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
4921.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
地區要取得土地 或者變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
4921.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
4923.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
成住宅用地比較方便 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
4923.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
4925.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
那你蓋了以後呢 恐怕會變成另外一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
4925.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
4927.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
有可能造成這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
4927.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
4929.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
沒有辦法完成社會住宅的主要用地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
4929.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
4931.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
它不只是一個數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
4931.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
4933.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
它還考慮到了它的地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
4933.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
4935.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
或其他的一些因素 需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
4935.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
4937.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
尤其是青年的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
4937.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
4939.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
那我之前喔 這個跟你討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
4939.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
4941.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
這個案子嘛 可能你印象也非常的深 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
4941.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
4943.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
就是汐止的白袍湖的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
4943.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
4945.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
社宅案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
4945.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
4947.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
你應該有印象嘛 那在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
4947.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
4949.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
去年度的預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
4949.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
4951.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
我有針對連外道路去做一些刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
4951.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
4953.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
那後來在追加預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
4953.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
4955.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
我們內政部也把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
4955.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
4957.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
包裹回去了 那也同意了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
4957.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
4959.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
所以預算算是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
4959.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
4961.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
如數的交給 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
4961.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
4963.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
內政部了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
4963.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
4965.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
但是這個案子它目前後來的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
4965.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
4967.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
4966.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
4968.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
是不是有取消了情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
4969.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
4971.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
報告委員 目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
4971.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
4973.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
4973.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
4975.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
那個114年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
4975.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
4977.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
就是上年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
4977.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
4979.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
預算在立法院刪減是0.21億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
4979.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
4981.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
然後115年度的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
4981.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
4983.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
我們在審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
4983.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
4985.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
就全數刪減2.47億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
4985.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
4987.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
所以現在這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
4987.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
4989.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
比較沒有辦法順利推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
4989.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
4991.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
那116年度我們也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
4991.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
4993.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
把它編列進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
4993.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
4995.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
就是說在去年度刪減之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
4995.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
4997.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
那是不是有追加預算回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
4999.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5001.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
沒有嗎 沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5002.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5004.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
麵包進去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5004.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5006.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
包到追加預算 這是一個公建計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5006.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5008.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5008.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5010.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
我請我們的 我們請那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5010.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5012.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
同仁跟您回應一下好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
5013.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
5015.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
跟委員報告 這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5015.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5017.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
我們到國發會那邊沒有同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5017.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5019.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
所以沒有包進去 所以國發會沒有同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5019.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5021.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
好 所以你們有提 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5021.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5023.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
但是不是立法院主黨 是國發會沒有同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5023.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5025.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
那因此目前這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5025.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5027.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
你們目前有要取消新建嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5030.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5032.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
跟委員報告 我們目前是取消新建 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5032.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5034.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
你們目前是取消新建 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5034.84 |
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5036.84 |
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那目前的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5036.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5038.84 |
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就是說我們內政部的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5038.84 |
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5040.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
已經走完了 我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5041.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5043.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
決定在這個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5043.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5045.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
去取消新建設計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5045.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5047.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
那目前等待行政院核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5047.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5049.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
那我當然不是要批評這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5049.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5051.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
因為當初我有針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5051.35 |
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5053.35 |
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設宅我就有立場 我就有我的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5053.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5055.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
設宅不是只有追求數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5055.35 |
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5057.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
而是它的一個地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5057.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5059.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
或者是說它有一些設置的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5059.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5061.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
學理在 並不是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5061.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5063.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
找到空地就蓋 如果說找到空地就蓋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5063.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5065.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
那你要100萬戶設宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5065.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5067.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
那我想隨便一個人都能夠蓋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5067.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5069.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
那我想今天這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5069.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5071.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
這個啦 我就自己做個計畫啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5071.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5073.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
畢竟可能當時有對我許多的一些批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5073.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5075.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
或許我的講話的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5075.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5077.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
藝術沒有部長那麼高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5077.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5079.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
類似的話從部長講出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5079.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5081.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
可能就沒人批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5081.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5083.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
然後我講出來的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5083.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5085.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
指教的意見就比較多啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5085.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5087.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
那另外一個 同時我在同時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5087.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5089.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
我爭取另外一個設宅的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5089.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5091.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
在汐止的寶藏坑營區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5092.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5094.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
那目前新北市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5094.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5096.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
之前就有提出都市計畫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5096.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5098.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
變更 我支持這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5098.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5100.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
的原因是因為它已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5100.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5102.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
融入既有的一個生活圈跟市區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5102.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5104.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
那旁邊也是基隆捷運的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5104.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5106.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
預定地 它離現有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5106.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5108.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
基隆無獨火車站 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5108.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5110.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
也是非常近的距離 它是一個很 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5110.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5112.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
很好的一個設宅地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5112.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5114.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
如同部長剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5114.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5116.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
它蓋好之後需求會非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5116.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5118.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
高 因為它的交通便利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5118.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5120.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
那生活機能也非常的好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5120.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5122.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
那我想確認一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5122.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5124.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
目前這個案子 就我的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5124.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5126.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
應該是新北市政府正在進行都市計畫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5126.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5128.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
一個變更 那也之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5128.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5130.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
有送到內政部審議過啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5130.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5132.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
那可能針對一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5131.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5133.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
國土署有一些意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5133.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5135.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
退回到地方 那目前地方應該也準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5135.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5137.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
要送回來了 那我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5137.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5139.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
我們現在內政部或者是國土署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5139.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5141.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
或是住住中心對於這一塊地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5141.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5143.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
新建設宅的一個態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5143.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5145.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
報告委員 這塊地既然 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5145.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5147.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
這個新北市政府有按照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5147.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5149.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
相關的都市計畫在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5149.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5151.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
我們當然會來審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5151.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
5153.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
那這個部分如果委員所指的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
5153.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
5155.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
這個寶藏坑營區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
5155.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
5157.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
是的 營區國防部的那塊地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
5157.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
5159.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
那如果你指的是寶藏坑營區的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
5159.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
5161.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
那當然了 在115年6月18日的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
5161.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
5163.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
新北市的都委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
5163.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
5165.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
有185次的會議決議通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
5165.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
5167.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
那現在由新北市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
5167.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
5169.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
在辦理補辦的公開展覽程序當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
5171.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
5173.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
是 那當然都市計畫的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
5173.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
5175.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
照走 但是這一塊地的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
5175.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
5177.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
我想先請教我們內政部或相關單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
5177.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
5179.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
是不是支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
5179.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
5181.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
是支持的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
5181.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
5183.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
那相關的前置作業是不是可以先行過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
5183.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
5185.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
因為如果說都市計畫程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
5185.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
5187.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
我想 我們這邊不討論太細啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
5187.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
5189.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
但是之前的一些問題 新北市政府應該都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
5189.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
5191.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
依照國土署的意見 去針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
5191.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
5193.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
林地一些破碎的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
5193.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
5195.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
機關用地去取得同意書了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
5195.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
5197.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
那是不是前置作業可以先做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
5197.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
5199.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
跟委員報告 我們其實每個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
5199.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
5201.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
政府報告的一些案件 我們都有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
5201.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
5203.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
成箱分組在做專業評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
5203.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
5205.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
那這個確實這個案子是可行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
5205.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
5207.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
是可行的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
5207.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
5209.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
那我剛剛請教的就是前置作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
5209.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
5213.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
能不能開始就開始做基地的一些規劃跟設計的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
5213.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
5215.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
把這個分頭並行啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
5215.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
5217.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
這個還是要有它固定的程序啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
5217.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
5219.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
我們前面只是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
5219.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
5221.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
確定可行 所以市政府它現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
5221.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
5223.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
在做用地變更的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
5223.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
5225.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
那後續我們會送來以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
5225.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
5227.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
我們會加速 我們會加速來辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
5227.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
5229.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
我還是希望你們可以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
5229.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
5231.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
平行啦 就是很多事情在都市計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
5231.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
5233.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
的變更啊 土地的取而等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
5233.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
5235.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
很多政府為了加快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
5235.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
5237.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
工程的進度都會分頭進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
5237.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
5239.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
比如說綜合固化報告和環評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
5239.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
5241.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
好 大家分部進行嘛 因為我們都市計畫變更跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
5242.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
5244.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
這個土地的設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
5244.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
5246.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
你或許沒辦法做到西部設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
5246.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
5248.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
但是你一定是可以做一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
5248.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
5250.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
比較大範圍的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
5250.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
5252.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
比較籠統的一些規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
5252.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
5254.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
等等的 我希望我們單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
5254.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
5256.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
可以先來做一些評估啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
5256.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
5258.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
那加速 包括未來剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
5258.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
5260.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
你們說 或許你剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
5260.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
5262.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
三年後 委員說你們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
5262.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
5264.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
定案的就一千戶 說不定你現在趕快規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
5264.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
5266.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
你就放到後年後 那這個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
5266.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
5268.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
就上來了 或許它 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
5268.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
5270.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
就可以馬上呈現在數字上那面了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
5270.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
5272.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
跟委員報告其實這個東西就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
5272.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
5274.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
未來我們跟地方政府確認完 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
5274.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
5276.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
以後會再增加的 那前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
5276.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
5278.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
次座位的很多工作我們都已經做完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
5278.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
5280.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
5280.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
5282.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
所以我今天就最後一點時間再跟你們做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
5282.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
5284.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
確認 有關係的這兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
5284.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
5286.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
社宅案 白袍湖 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
5286.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
5288.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
社宅的一個興建 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
5288.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
5290.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
是我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
5290.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
5292.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
內政部主動喊停的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
5292.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
5294.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
那另外一個 包括內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
5294.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
5296.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
國發會不支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
5296.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
5298.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
所以沒有辦法繼續進行下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
5298.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
5300.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
那另外 保藏黑影卻這個社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
5300.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
5302.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
內政部是支持的 會繼續進行下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
5303.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
5305.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
報告 召委 我想有關白袍湖的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
5305.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
5307.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
是我們沒有預算 不是我們主動喊停 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
5307.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
5309.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
所以是立法院不支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
5309.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
5311.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
還是國發會不支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
5314.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
5316.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
從立法院在114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
5316.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
5318.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
開始刪減這個 0.21億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
5318.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
5320.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
開始 那這個當然是進入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
5320.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
5322.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
我們國發會的審查程序 一開始的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
5322.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
5324.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
如果立法院就刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
5324.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
5326.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
所以國發會不支持嘛對不對 到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
5326.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
5328.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
115年的年度預算的公建計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
5328.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
5330.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
裡面也沒有在裡面啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
5330.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
5332.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
所以就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
5332.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
5334.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
國發會沒有支持嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
5334.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
5336.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
報告委員 我想是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
5336.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
5338.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
我們如果沒有預算 我們怎麼去開發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
5338.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
5340.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
任何運動休閒園區或是社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
5340.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
5342.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
這案子沒關係 到這程序走完了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
5342.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
5344.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
你們現在既然已經報行政院了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
5344.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
5346.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
那後續有相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
5346.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
5348.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
那個確定了之後 再麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
5348.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
5350.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
回覆相關資料 以上 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
5351.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
5353.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
好 謝謝廖先生委員的指示 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
5364.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
5366.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
好 下一位請王洪威委員發言諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
5374.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
5376.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
好 謝謝主席 我請劉部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
5376.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
5378.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
還有花敬群董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
5386.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
5388.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
好 董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
5388.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
5392.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
這次召集以及寄居卸的一個風波 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
5392.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
5394.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
那影響範圍極大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
5394.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
5396.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
製造了很多的豬屋孤兒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
5396.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
5398.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
那在寄居卸的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
5398.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
5402.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
這兩天你對外說明的比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
5402.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
5404.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
就是再去做協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
5404.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
5408.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
由其他的單位來接手 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
5408.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
5410.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
不過我也覺得非常奇怪啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
5410.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
5412.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
因為你一直都強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
5412.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
5414.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
所有的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
5414.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
5416.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
所有的豬屋代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
5416.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
5420.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
通通都是公開招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
5420.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
5422.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
但是你現在的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
5422.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
5424.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
等於說階段性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
5424.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
5426.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
這樣的一個處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
5426.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
5428.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
也沒有經過公開性的招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
5428.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
5430.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
那我另外請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
5430.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
5432.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
另外趙姬公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
5434 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
5438 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
趙姬公司她的這個豬屋代管的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
5438 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
5440 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
會不會出問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
5440.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
5442.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
謝謝委員的推詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
5442.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
5446.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
我想第一個目前並沒有包租代管孤兒的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
5446.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
5448.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
現在所有的服務案件都還在持續進行中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
5448.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
5450.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
那寄居卸的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
5450.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
5452.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
其實寄居卸公司的服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
5452.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
5454.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
現在也還是存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
5454.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
5456.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
我先問你趙姬公司會不會有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
5456.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
5460.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
這個部分我沒有辦法代替趙姬公司回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
5460.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
5462.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
因為他們現在內部正在重組 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
5462.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
5464.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
他們的主管團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
5464.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
5466.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
那請問一下他包租代管的房東房客 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
5466.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
5468.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
會不會權益有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
5468.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
5470.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
權益有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
5470.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
5472.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
目前都還在服務的狀態當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
5472.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
5474.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
好請問一下昨天趙姬公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
5474.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
5478.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
他公開承認 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
5478.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
5480.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
他列為警事戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
5480.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
5482.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
因為有人去檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
5482.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
5484.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
他列為警事戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
5484.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
5486.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
警事戶解除了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
5486.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
5488.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
這個案子昨天當晚已經解除警事了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
5488.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
5490.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
解除警事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
5490.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
5494.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
那請問一下還會不會有一些投資人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
5494.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
5496.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
因為現在投資人都組成自救協會了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
5496.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
5498.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
自救會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
5498.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
5500.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
所有跟我來做投訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
5500.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
5502.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
那請問一下還會不會有其他投資人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
5502.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
5506.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
繼續的去控告趙姬公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
5506.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
5510.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
那使得他的銀行帳戶進入警事戶的一個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
5511.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
5513.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
這個東西我沒有辦法判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
5513.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
5515.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
但是當然經過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
5515.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
5517.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
昨天那一次的歷程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
5517.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
5519.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
我相信銀行團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
5519.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
5521.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
我必須要講喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
5521.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
5523.37 |
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你不能講得雲淡風輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
5523.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
5525.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
因為所有包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
5524.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
5528.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
這個房客的錢進入趙姬公司的帳戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
5528.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
5530.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
趙姬公司再從他的帳戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
5530.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
5532.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
要把錢給房東 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
5532.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
5538.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
所以一旦他的帳戶出現任何的被凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
5538.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
5540.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
或者進入警事戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
5540.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
5544.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
那第一個當然就是房東跟房客全以同時受損 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
5544.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
5546.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
還有另外我請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
5546.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
5550.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
因為你剛才我看到前面的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
5550.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
5552.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
你認為趙姬公司沒有問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
5552.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
5554.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
我沒有說趙姬公司沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
5554.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
5560.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
我想現在他們公司內部的團隊正在進行重整重組的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
5560.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
5564.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
那我也都會持續的去了解他們的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
5564.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
5566.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
甚至我們在昨天已經約詢一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
5566.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
5570.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
我們要求他禮拜五把公司的財報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
5570.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
5572.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
我想請問一下你也應該知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
5572.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
5576.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
他在立刻公司改組 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
5576.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
5578.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
他另外的一個股東 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
5578.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
5580.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
宏基接任董事長之後兩天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
5580.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
5582.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
就立刻辭掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
5582.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
5588.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
而且直接說這家公司他的管理有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
5588.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
5592.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
擔心他的投資的這些問題會擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
5594.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
5597.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
所以他自己裡面去接任董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
5597.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
5600.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
兩天就不敢再繼續接任了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
5601.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
5603.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
那這代表這家公司大有問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
5605.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
5608.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
我覺得這個因為現在是新的總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
5608.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
5611.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
如果這次從基金協到趙姬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
5611.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
5615.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
他們整個的包租貸款高達兩萬戶以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
5615.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
5617.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
有時候到兩萬八千戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
5617.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
5619.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
一個基金協說我不幹了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
5619.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
5622.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
一個趙姬現在可能列入警事戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
5622.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
5625.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
還有這些投資人組成自救會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
5625.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
5627.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
要跟他求償 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
5627.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
5629.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
可能有漫長的一個司法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
5629.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
5631.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
那麼這麼龐大的房租 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
5631.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
5634.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
房東跟房客的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
5634.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
5636.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
要怎麼樣保障呢? |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
5636.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
5638.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
這真的是一個非常大的風暴耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
5638.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
5639.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
基金協的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
5639.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
5642.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
當然我們接下來這個月陸續轉嫌出去之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
5642.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
5646.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
其實就不會有房東房客潛在的這個糾紛的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
5646.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
5651.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
那趙姬的部分當然我們現階段還是要尊重他們的經營團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
5651.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
5653.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
以及現在的股東 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
5653.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
5657.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
在他們預計8月27號要開臨時股東會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
5657.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
5660.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
會選出新任的董監事等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
5660.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
5662.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
那這部分我們當然要尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
5662.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
5666.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
他們這些權利人對自己公司的處置過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
5666.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
5668.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
好董事長有時間有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
5668.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
5670.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
你們在尊重之餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
5670.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
5674.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
要怎麼樣保障這些房東跟房客的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
5674.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
5677.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
就變得非常非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
5677.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
5680.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
所以等一下來請部長回答一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
5682.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
5684.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
如果這次風暴擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
5684.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
5688.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
而並不像我們花敬群董事長講的這樣雲淡風氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
5688.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
5690.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
那要不要有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
5691.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
5694.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
這個要負起一個行政責任或政治責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
5694.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
5695.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
5695.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
5698.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
我們在多次的這個對外的說法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
5698.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
5705.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
就是目前我們跟各縣市地方政府處理包租代管業者的這些市府團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
5705.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
5707.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
都保持密切的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
5707.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
5710.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
那有關房東房客權益受損的部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
5710.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
5712.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
我們會用這個公共設施的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
5712.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
5716.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
公共利益的這個服務不打折的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
5716.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
5718.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
來處理房東房客的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
5718.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
5719.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
這是第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
5719.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
5725.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
如果造機或者是寄居縣有任何在處理包租代管業務上面出現狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
5725.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
5728.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
沒有辦法回覆我們所提的問題的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
5728.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
5730.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
我們會暫停第四期的撥付計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
5730.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
5734.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
那再來就是說裡面有沒有人謀不章的問題的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
5734.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
5737.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
我已經先啟動內部的行政的查查的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
5737.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
5739.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
好所以要有行政調查的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
5739.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
5743.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
才能夠去回應現在社會的一些質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
5743.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
5745.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
另外來部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
5745.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
5748.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
那個先暫停一下部長還有署長好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
5748.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
5750.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
我們郭徒書署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
5752.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
5754.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
5754.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
5756.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
部長署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
5756.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
5758.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
剛才因為很多委員關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
5758.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
5762.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
就是民團在直接指出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
5762.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
5765.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
也就是我們社宅的興建 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
5765.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
5769.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
原來從外總統的13萬戶的他的政見跳票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
5769.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
5772.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
變成只有3萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
5772.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
5774.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
那剛才我有注意到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
5774.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
5778.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
這個部長跟署長都在澄清沒有這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
5779.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
5781.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
可是你看我算是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
5782.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
5785.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
很認真的我還幫你們都mark起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
5786.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
5789.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
我就看不到在你報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
5789.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
5796.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
針對外界最近沸沸揚揚在質疑的政見大票票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
5796.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
5798.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
裡面你沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
5797.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
5801.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
白紙黑字就沒有寫說你這13萬戶絕不跳票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
5802.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
5804.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
所以你現在是口頭上講而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
5805.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
5807.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
另外我必須要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
5807.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
5811.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
我們這一次整個包租代管的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
5811.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
5813.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
其實會有這麼大的出包 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
5813.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
5816.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
其實要有很多地方要檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
5816.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
5819.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
也就是說我們用了很多包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
5819.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
5821.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
還有包含房屋補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
5821.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
5826.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
去彌補那個所謂的百萬社宅的一個大餅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
5826.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
5829.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
但是現在包租代管出現了問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
5829.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
5831.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
因為這些公司他的財務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
5831.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
5834.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
甚至這次可能涉及到投資詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
5834.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
5837.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
我先跟你講一下我聽到的消息是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
5841.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
因為他們掌控很多房東的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
5841.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
5843.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
房東很多有包租公包租婆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
5843.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
5846.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
包租公包租婆有什麼特色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
5847.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
5848.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
有錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
5848.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
5852.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
所以他們就成為他們去要求他們來投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
5852.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
5855.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
去買他公司在的這些對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
5855.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
5857.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
所以你一方包租代管給他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
5857.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
5862.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
另外一方面又提供給他們一個投資的客源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
5862.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
5866.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
所以這一點我剛才為什麼因為時間的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
5866.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
5870.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
我要講就是說這次的包租代管所爆發出來的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
5870.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
5872.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
他的面向是很多重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
5873.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
5878.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
那另外你們現在社宅的新辦少十萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
5878.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
5879.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
你說沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
5879.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
5881.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
但是我沒有看到你白紙黑字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
5881.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
5884.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
很明確的告訴我們說這個政見絕不跳票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
5884.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
5887.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
我們直接新建一定還是有十三萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
5887.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
5889.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
好另外我要提出質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
5889.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
5891.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
剛才你們一直在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
5891.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
5894.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
就是說因為地方跟地方了解之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
5894.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
5897.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
說這個地有限等等之類 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
5897.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
5899.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
好那我要請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
5899.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
5902.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
對於地方社宅的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
5902.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
5905.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
是不是到2028年就全面取消補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
5905.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
5907.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
這一點是不是確定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
5909.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
5911.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
報告委員你所提的三個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
5911.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
5913.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
第一個我先簡單跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
5913.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
5915.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
感謝委員關心賴總統的政見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
5915.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
5917.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
你現在所看到的這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
5917.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
5921.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
所謂十三萬變成三萬的部分是一個草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
5921.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
5924.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
這個草案是縣市地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
5924.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
5926.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
跟我們中央政府在討論的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
5926.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
5929.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
所以第一階段新建的量是三萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
5929.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
5931.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
那未來的八年的新建的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
5931.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
5933.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
我們是朝著三萬戶的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
5933.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
5934.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
那我請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
5934.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
5935.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
目前賴總統上任之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
5935.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
5936.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
這是你們的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
5936.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
5939.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
已經達到2.4萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
5940.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
5942.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
5941.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
5943.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
已經達到2.4萬戶沒有錯吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
5944.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
5946.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
5946.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
5949.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
好中央加地方達到2.4萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
5949.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
5951.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
如果按照你們草案三萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
5951.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
5953.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
就是未來你們只要蓋六千戶了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
5953.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
5954.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
是這個意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
5954.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
5956.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
報告委員我們有提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
5956.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
5958.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
您現在所提的就是樹地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
5958.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
5960.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
就是直接是空地裡面長出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
5960.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
5963.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
但是呢我們有提到多元新辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
5963.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
5965.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
這個多元新辦包括榮獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
5965.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
5967.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
包括都更危老等等這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
5967.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
5970.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
都是朝著尤其是朝著這個總統所指示的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
5970.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
5972.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
這些都是要以婚育宅為先 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
5972.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
5974.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
來推動的社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
5974.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
5975.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
你們這些都跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
5975.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
5977.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
我是說你們直接新辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
5977.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
5980.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
當時直接新辦就是13萬戶啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
5980.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
5984.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
然後其他的加起來才是百萬戶啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
5984.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
5986.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
然後你們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
5986.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
5990.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
所以到三萬戶這個數字並不是空穴來風嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
5990.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
5992.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
因為你剛剛講是你們的草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
5992.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
5993.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
我要確定一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
5993.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
5995.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
因為大家全國都在聽啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
5995.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
5998.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
很多人在關心到底是13萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
5998.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
5999.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
還是3萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
5999.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6001.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
所以我才多次跟大家講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6001.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6003.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
我們的目標值並沒有改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6003.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6005.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
好 再次的時間來證明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6005.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6007.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
好 所以13萬戶是目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6007.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6010.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
但是你目前的草案是3萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6012.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6014.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
因為剛才講說草案3萬戶啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6014.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6018.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
13萬戶這個是確定以後要達成的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6018.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6020.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
但是我們什麼時候達成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6020.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6021.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
121年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6021.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6023.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
然後那個現在做的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6023.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6025.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
因為跟地方政府盤點完以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6025.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6027.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
用地沒有問題可以蓋的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6027.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6029.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
這個部分第一階段已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6029.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6030.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
另外我想一個很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6030.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6032.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
就是對地方你們在講地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6032.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6034.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
對地方的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6034.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6037.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
會不會2028就取消了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6037.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6038.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
跟委員報告不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6038.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6040.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
因為我們之前核定的一些相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6040.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6041.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
社宅補助案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6041.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6042.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
這個部分就用20年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6042.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6044.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
所以現在這一次大家關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6044.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6046.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
除了你的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6046.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6049.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
就是要興建的戶數大幅縮減之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6049.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6050.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
另外一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6050.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6052.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
就是對地方補助的取消 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6052.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6054.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
所以你在這邊告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6054.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6057.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
對地方補助他們興建社宅不會取消 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6057.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6058.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6059.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6060.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6060.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6062.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
我們今年我們有統籌分配稅款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6062.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6063.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
今年有改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6063.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6066.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
那之前已經確定的這個都不會變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6066.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6068.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
那這個部分後面只是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6068.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6070.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
他必須要做一些地方配合款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6070.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6071.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
才外法修正以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6071.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6072.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
一直都有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6072.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6073.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
一直都有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6073.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6074.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
他們一直都有自籌款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6074.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6076.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
之前的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6076.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6078.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
我們核定的這個部分是全額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6078.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6081.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
所以就是會縮水的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6081.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6082.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
沒有這不是縮水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6082.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6083.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
因為這個地方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6083.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6085.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
我在這邊我不耽誤其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6085.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6087.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
我相信很多委員都關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6087.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6088.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
我要特別講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6088.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6090.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
其實對於地方來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6090.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6091.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
你可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6091.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6092.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
這個是你們資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6092.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6094.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
今天是你報告的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6094.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6095.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
你們全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
6095.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6098.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
比如說在北北 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6098.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6101.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
就是新北跟台北市跟桃園市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6101.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6103.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
這三個主要地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6103.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6106.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
事實上三個主要的縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6106.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6108.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
他們所興建的戶數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6108.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6110.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
其實都非常高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6110.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6113.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
也就是說地方很努力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6113.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6115.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
也在興建社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6115.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6117.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
所以我要講的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6117.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6119.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
他們算是社宅的模範生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6119.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6122.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
可是你們給他的補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6122.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6124.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
不應該因此縮水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6124.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6125.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
我有計算一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6125.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6127.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
就是以台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6127.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6129.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
全部興建的社宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6129.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6131.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
而由地方興辦的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6131.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6133.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
是42.2% |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6133.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6134.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6134.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6137.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
中央加地方全部興辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6137.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6140.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
而是地方興辦的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6140.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6142.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
是55.7% |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6142.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6144.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
超過五成是地方興辦的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6144.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6147.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
然後桃園市大概49.2% |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6147.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6149.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
是地方興辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6149.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6151.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
所以我要講的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
6151.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6152.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
其實這幾個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6152.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6156.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
都是興建地方社宅的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6156.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
6158.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
一個模範生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
6158.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
6160.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
所以我也希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
6160.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
6162.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
在他們願意配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6162.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6164.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
即便這三個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
6164.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
6165.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
應該基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
6165.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
6167.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
都是寸土寸金的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
6167.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
6170.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
但是他們願意配合政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
6170.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
6171.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
積極的興建 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6171.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6173.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
這個都是賴總統上任之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
6173.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
6174.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
興辦的統計表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
6174.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
6177.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
這是你們的書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
6177.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
6178.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
6178.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
6179.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
所以我希望是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
6179.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
6182.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
對於有在積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
6182.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
6186.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
興建社會住宅的地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
6186.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
6188.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
你們的補助不要縮水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
6188.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
6189.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
不要忘記 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
6189.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
6193.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
你明年是3.6兆的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
6193.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
6195.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
明年3.6兆的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
6195.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
6196.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
你現在跟外界講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
6196.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
6198.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
所以你們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
6198.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
6200.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
社宅的興建的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
6200.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
6204.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
從2046億要減成820.9億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
6204.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
6205.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
說不過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
6205.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
6210.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
明年3兆6千億的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
6210.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
6212.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
然後你們的社宅興建 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
6212.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
6217.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
要從2046億減成820.9億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
6217.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
6218.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
這個是大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
6218.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
6219.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
絕對很難接受的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
6219.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
6222.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
所以我希望內政部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
6222.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
6223.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
我們劉部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
6223.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
6226.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
請找國土署再重新檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
6226.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
6228.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
我們整個社宅興建 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
6228.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
6231.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
剛剛講說砍到3萬太少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
6231.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
6234.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
你們現在興建已經2萬4千戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
6234.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
6236.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
如果按照你現在變3萬的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
6236.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
6238.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
你只增加6千戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
6238.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
6240.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
我告訴你賴總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
6240.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
6243.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
怎麼他還要再連任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
6243.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
6244.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
當然不是這個答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
6244.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
6246.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
所以請你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
6246.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
6247.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
請你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
6247.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
6248.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
這個是你的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
6248.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
6249.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
沒有沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
6249.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
6251.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
我剛剛已經提過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
6251.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
6253.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
我們直接興建社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
6253.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
6254.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
確實是需要比較多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
6254.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
6256.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
公路預算的投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
6256.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
6258.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
但是未來我們如果有榮獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
6258.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
6260.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
或者是都更等等這些的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
6260.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
6261.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
就比較不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
6261.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
6263.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
有身分來支援這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
6263.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
6265.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
我們也同意北北基 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
6265.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
6268.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
毛中是本來社宅的熱區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
6268.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
6269.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
好我希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
6269.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
6271.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
但是財政水準化專報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
6271.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
6273.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
也是到院通過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
6273.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
6275.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
部長今天我們專報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
6275.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
6277.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
這個我們的召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
6277.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
6278.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
排了這個專報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
6278.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
6281.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
其實是讓你們今天去澄清 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
6281.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
6283.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
民團他們質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
6283.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
6285.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
這些包含砍戶數砍預算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
6285.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
6287.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
一個非常好的時機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
6287.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
6288.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
是的謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
6288.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
6292.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
但是這個圖已經廣傳在網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
6292.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
6293.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
我這邊左邊圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
6293.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
6294.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
廣傳在網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
6294.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
6297.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
但是這個圖必須要把所有的公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
6297.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
6299.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
沒有任何事宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
6299.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
6301.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
一個新聞長達兩公分那麼厚的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
6301.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
6302.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
只有一張圖表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
6302.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
6304.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
不能夠掐頭掐尾來作戰的解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
6304.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
6305.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
那你都沒有辦法解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
6305.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
6306.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
給你機會解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
6306.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
6308.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
給你安排專報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
6308.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
6309.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
你都沒有辦法解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
6309.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
6310.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
我們已經講得非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
6310.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
6312.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
它必須要整個調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
6312.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
6313.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
我看不出這個圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
6313.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
6315.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
沒有錯的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
6315.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
6317.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
所以我們再來跟委員做報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
6317.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
6318.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
都沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
6318.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
6320.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
不是只有跟我們做報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
6320.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
6322.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
你要跟社會做報告好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
6322.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
6324.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
既然都今天排了這個專報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
6324.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
6326.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
但是我覺得沒有解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
6326.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
6327.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
外界的懷疑之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
6327.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
6329.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
是我們知道很多外界不同的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
6329.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
6331.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
那我們會再做一個比較簡單的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
6331.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
6333.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
跟大家做一個事宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
6333.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
6334.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
也謝謝委員的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
6341.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
6343.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
好 我們帶蘇巧會委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
6343.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
6345.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
質詢完休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
6345.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
6347.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
我們下一位請李柏毅召委發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
6352.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
6353.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
好 謝謝有請劉部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
6356.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
6358.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
還有那個署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
6359.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
6360.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
6361.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
6364.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
你來自地方政府的局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
6365.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
6368.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
那中央在問你這些進度的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
6368.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
6369.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
你回報以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
6369.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
6371.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
那算出來的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
6371.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
6373.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
那個叫做現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
6373.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
6374.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
不是草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
6375.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
6377.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
好 那我再問你一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
6379.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
6382.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
賴總統的承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
6382.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
6385.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
新建社會住宅13萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
6385.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
6387.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
現階段是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
6387.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
6389.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
現階段我們已經核定的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
6389.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
6391.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
2萬4千戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
6391.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
6393.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
你剛加縣市政府的是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
6393.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
6394.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
加縣市政府是3萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
6395.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
6396.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
這是現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
6396.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
6398.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
怎麼會是草案呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
6399.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
6402.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
好 那今天內政部也說明的很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
6402.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
6404.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
那目標不變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
6404.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
6405.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
13萬戶目標不變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
6405.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
6407.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
但是新建的方式可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
6407.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
6410.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
要地方政府來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
6410.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
6411.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
我講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
6412.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
6414.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
我的選區左營男子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
6414.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
6416.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
那因為產業進駐的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
6416.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
6417.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
6418.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
6420.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
左營男子的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
6420.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
6421.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
社宅新建 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
6421.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
6424.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
包含絕標帶開工的戶數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
6425.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
6427.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
9000多戶 接近1萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
6428.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
6431.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
這個應該是所有全台灣的行政區裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
6431.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
6433.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
算是最高的一區之一啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
6433.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
6436.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
那未來還有沒有新建的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
6436.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
6438.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
我覺得未來我們現在面臨的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
6439.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
6441.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
珠卜的不確定性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
6441.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
6443.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
這一部分我要請部長回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
6444.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
6445.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
6446.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
6447.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
財劃法之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
6447.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
6450.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
那整個台北市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
6450.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
6453.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
台北市的財劃法之後的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
6453.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
6456.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
多獲得的金額是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
6456.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
6459.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
1150億左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
6460.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
6464.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
高雄市只獲只拿到757億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
6464.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
6469.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
比原本的增加不到250億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
6469.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
6472.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
而且必須要負擔的金額非常的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
6472.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
6474.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
對高雄市不公平之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
6474.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
6477.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
台北市目前對於珠卜的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
6477.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
6479.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
6480.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
6484.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
他還說是中央的政策地方要買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
6484.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
6486.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
請問部長這樣公平嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
6488.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
6492.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
地方政府是不是也應該要負擔這些珠卜的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
6492.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
6494.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
報告委員到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
6494.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
6496.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
115年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
6496.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
6500.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
116年的珠卜的負擔比例並沒有改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
6500.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
6501.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
這樣不公平吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
6501.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
6503.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
你多拿了那麼多經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
6503.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
6504.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
多拿了500億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
6504.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
6507.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
然後珠卜你一塊錢都不出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
6509.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
6514.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
當然委員所提的部分我們有檢討的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
6514.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
6516.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
那這個檢討的空間大概會以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
6516.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
6520.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
財政收支劃分法的方式再來做這個檢討跟改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
6520.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
6523.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
所以原版的財劃法裡面有把這一部分討論進去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
6523.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
6526.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
但是立法院就是不排不通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
6526.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
6529.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
立法院通過的就是國民黨版本的財劃法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
6529.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
6532.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
那國民黨版本的財劃法在台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
6532.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
6536.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
台中市他多拿了這麼多的財劃法的分配款之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
6536.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
6539.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
他對珠卜他還是不願意付出嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
6539.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
6543.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
那你從中央拿了那麼多預算過去之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
6543.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
6545.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
你對珠卜還是不願意付出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
6545.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
6547.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
這是我今天想要點出來的問題啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
6549.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
6553.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
所以部長我們是不是跟地方政府還在喊喊話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
6553.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
6556.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
希望他們在今年度明年度的這個珠卜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
6556.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
6558.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
地方政府應該要多付 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
6558.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
6560.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
我們再來跟地方檢討啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
6560.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
6564.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
就是說原來中央所提到的就是珠卜的部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
6564.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
6567.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
不管是全額補助或是有部分的補助的方式呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
6567.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
6572.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
無論怎麼樣如果我們依法行政還是要按照財政收支劃分法來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
6572.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
6576.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
但是這裡面如果已經有影響到這個尤其是弱勢族群的話呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
6576.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
6579.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
我覺得我們需要再跟地方政府多多溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
6579.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
6582.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
而且有些地方政府的財力其實相當的不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
6582.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
6587.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
那如果根據我們這個大院所通過的財力分級的補助的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
6587.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
6592.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
台北市是60% 新北市70% 桃園跟台中是80% |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
6592.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
6594.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
高雄市是85% 台南市是90% |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
6594.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
6597.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
這個是根據我們新的這個財劃法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
6597.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
6601.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
但是如果每個縣市政府不願意按照這樣的比例來做這個分攤的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
6601.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
6603.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
我們也必須要有容售的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
6603.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
6605.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
不過我剛有跟委員報告過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
6605.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
6611.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
115跟116到目前為止是按照現行的這個條件並沒有做改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
6611.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
6612.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
好 謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
6612.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
6613.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
我們再來做基隆市的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
6613.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
6615.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
來我請這個花敬群董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
6621.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
6622.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
6622.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
6624.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
董事長剛有動氣我覺得不必要動氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
6624.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
6626.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
我們來把 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
6626.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
6631.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
目前出事的這家營運公司的來龍去脈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
6631.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
6632.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
部長請先回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
6632.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
6638.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
我們把目前財務狀況有問題的這家公司來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
6638.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
6642.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
它的來龍去脈的一個解讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
6644.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
6646.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
2017年蔡英文政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
6646.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
6649.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
在行政院核定社會主宰新辦計畫之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
6651.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
6656.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
地方政府第一個委託造機做社宅營運的是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
6656.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
6657.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
是台北市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
6657.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
6658.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
6658.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
6662.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
2018年當時董事長在內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
6662.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
6666.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
這個租賃市場發展管理條例通過之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
6666.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
6673.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
才有後來的造機五管開始大量的不管在地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
6673.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
6677.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
或者是中央在推動的這些社宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
6677.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
6680.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
有大量的這些委託的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
6680.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
6681.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
這個是時間的脈絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
6681.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
6686.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
我跟委員報告造機公司在我們社宅包租代管一共有五期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
6686.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
6689.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
一到四期做的都是縣市政府的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
6689.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
6691.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
沒有做中央政府的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
6691.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
6694.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
第五期才開始做中央政府的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
6694.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
6697.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
那為什麼民眾黨第一時間要跳出來做這麼多解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
6697.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
6698.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
你要知道啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
6698.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
6700.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
就是從台北市政府來的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
6700.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
6702.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
所以你不必動氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
6702.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
6705.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
因為包租代管目前是政府的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
6705.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
6708.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
那政府的政策當然要有民間的配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
6708.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
6711.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
那這一個包租代管能不能營運是可以的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
6711.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
6712.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
6712.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
6717.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
個別公司出問題不代表這一個包租代管的業務是有問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
6717.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
6718.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
6718.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
6720.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
我們必須要把這一個理清楚之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
6720.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
6721.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
6721.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
6723.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
那如果萬一其他的公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
6723.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
6726.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
以後也有這些相關類似的問題我們怎麼來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
6726.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
6728.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
這是我們目前要討論的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
6728.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
6732.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
包含剛剛其他委員有提到旅行社同業的平保 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
6732.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
6736.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
或者是比如說這個健身產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
6736.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
6739.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
健身房他也有這些相關的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
6739.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
6743.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
你到一定金額預收多少你必須要履約能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
6743.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
6744.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
要有信託等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
6744.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
6748.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
這些是我們即將馬上要來處理的問題是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
6748.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
6749.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
6749.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
6751.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
那董事長你覺得接下來要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
6751.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
6757.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
當然我們現階段除了這些投資人之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
6757.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
6762.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
那有沒有任何的租客或者是房東找我們住都中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
6762.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
6765.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
大家只是在問接下來會怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
6765.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
6768.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
但是並沒有誰表達說他已經受到損害了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
6768.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
6769.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
因為服務都還在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
6769.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
6772.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
所以這個部分持續都還在營運中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
6772.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
6777.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
那這個現在的制度底下可以來保障房東房客權益的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
6777.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
6779.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
包含營業保 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
6779.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
6782.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
依照租用專法的營業保證金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
6782.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
6785.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
那在中央本的社會住宅包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
6785.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
6787.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
我們還有押租金專戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
6787.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
6789.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
6789.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
6791.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
繼續卸的有1000多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
6791.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
6792.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
造機有3000多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
6792.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
6795.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
這個其實還是可以往上調的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
6795.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
6796.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
如果他的這些押金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
6796.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
6802.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
甚至我們還有我們預計本來要付給這兩家公司的一些服務費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
6802.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
6804.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
我們現在都已經先暫時停下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
6804.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
6807.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
我們就是要馬上立即保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
6807.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
6810.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
保護不管是房東或者是房客相關這些合約的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
6810.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
6814.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
現在的制度已經有這些資源了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
6814.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
6817.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
那當然委員提到了一些強化的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
6817.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
6821.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
那我會跟內政部跟地方政府大家一起來溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
6821.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
6825.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
能夠再強化的我們絕對會一定會虛心的接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
6825.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
6826.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
然後來檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
6833.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
6835.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
好 下回請王美慧委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
6843.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
6845.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
主席 咱這裡發進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
6851.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
6852.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
我們來囉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
6855.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
6859.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
當時政府很早在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
6859.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
6861.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
一起爭鬥 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
6862.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
6863.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
出場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
6863.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
6867.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
當我們內政部的次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
6867.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
6869.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
6869.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
6871.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
主要的說法到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
6871.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
6875.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
都是要照顧這些六小 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
6876.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
6878.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
還是 怎麼才好呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
6878.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
6879.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
因為說實在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
6879.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
6883.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
現在的地也好 房也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
6883.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
6886.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
是非常的過又過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
6887.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
6889.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
6889.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
6891.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
我可以做直達議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
6891.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
6894.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
來代表做立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
6895.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
6897.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
6897.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
6900.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
跟議區都沒有社會主宰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
6900.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
6901.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
幹嘛 幹嘛笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
6902.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
6905.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
你們的單位 給他一次機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
6906.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
6909.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
因為剛才我們都在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
6909.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
6912.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
結果在地上問 地上又不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
6913.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
6915.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
公視在當初中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
6915.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
6918.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
在我地上來看的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
6918.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
6920.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
是非常的不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
6921.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
6923.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
6923.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
6925.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
我清楚三位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
6925.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
6927.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
一個友中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
6927.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
6929.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
一個保愛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
6929.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
6931.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
一個安寧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
6931.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
6933.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
6933.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
6935.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
但一定有中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
6936.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
6937.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
你 揍我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
6941.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
6943.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
董事長 你怎麼可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
6943.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
6944.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
就這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
6945.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
6948.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
來說 要怎麼才有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
6948.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
6950.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
去申請社會主宰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
6950.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
6952.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
社會主宰來賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
6952.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
6955.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
是我們全部買賣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
6956.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
6958.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
是用作的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
6958.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
6960.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
就是在這裡的弱勢也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
6960.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
6962.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
在這裡的年輕人也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
6962.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
6964.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
希望有一個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
6965.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
6966.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
好運喘息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
6967.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
6969.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
感謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
6969.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
6971.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
我們柳宗豪是應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
6971.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
6973.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
預計我們大概10月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
6973.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
6975.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
會公告招租 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
6975.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
6976.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
10月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
6976.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
6979.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
今年10月會公告招租 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
6979.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
6981.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
那公告之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
6981.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
6984.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
10天會開始接受申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
6984.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
6986.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
因為10天讓大家了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
6986.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
6988.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
過10天開始申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
6988.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
6990.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
申請的時間有1個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
6990.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
6992.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
申請的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
6992.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
6994.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
我們到時候會跟管理局 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
6994.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
6997.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
管理局那邊有一個服務店 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
6997.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
6999.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
可以在那邊申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
6999.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7000.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
也可以透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7000.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7001.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
透過網路 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7001.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7003.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
因為我們主要透過網路 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7003.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7005.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
把你的資料寫下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7005.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7006.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
寫出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7006.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7008.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
就完成了你的申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7008.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7010.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
接下來我們就大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7010.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7012.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
用兩三個月時間來審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7012.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7014.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
所有來申請的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7014.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7016.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
他的資格是哪一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7016.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7017.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
哪一級的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7017.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7019.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
有沒有符合申請的資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7020.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7022.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
申查完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7022.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7024.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
就會進入到抽籤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7024.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7026.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
抽籤我們會公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7026.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
7027.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
當時你有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7027.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
7029.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
在這裡請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7029.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7030.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
抽籤的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7030.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7032.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
可以做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7032.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
7033.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7033.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
7036.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
都會第三公正單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7036.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
7037.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
來監督我們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7037.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
7039.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
現在真是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7039.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7041.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
如果叫大聲的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7041.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7043.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
還不用去抽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7044.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7046.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
我覺得這個而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7046.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7049.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
是對我們中央的認真打拚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7049.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7051.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
傷害很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7051.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7052.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
這個我們再來澄清 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7052.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7054.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
我們要盡快來澄清 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7054.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7055.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
跟我們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7055.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7056.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7058.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
7060.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
房客要付的租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7060.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7061.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
我們都有一定的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7061.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7062.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
我們的標準就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7062.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7064.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
因為我們蓋的是新房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7064.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7066.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
但是我們是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7066.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7068.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
十年屋齡的房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7068.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7070.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
來估市場租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7070.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7071.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7071.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7072.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
它會比較低 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7072.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7074.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
然後這樣那個租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7074.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7077.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
依照房客的所得標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7077.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7079.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
會有打8折、打7折 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7079.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7082.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
和打5折、3種折扣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7082.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7084.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
所以大家付的租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7084.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7086.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
其實跟市場來比 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7086.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7088.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
已經一定是差很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7088.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7090.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
因為董事長在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7090.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7092.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
本身要向你提供的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7092.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7095.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
現在未來的就是抽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7095.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
7097.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
它有辦法讓它這麼大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7097.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
7101.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
第二點就是它的租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7101.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7104.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
在加利市這個地方公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7104.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7107.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
你要用租金跟台北幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7107.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7109.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
跟客戶外的地方幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7109.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7112.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
公司這個對加利市人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7112.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7113.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
我們是用在地的租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7113.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
7114.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
不是台北的租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7114.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7115.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
是在地的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7115.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7116.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
對,那時候就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7116.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7118.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
有人說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7118.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7121.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
你如果知道有這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7121.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7122.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
會存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7122.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7124.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
所以你可以啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7125.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
7126.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7129.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7132.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
說實在,我們太過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7133.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
7136.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
對他們的弱勢也沒有資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7136.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7137.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7137.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7139.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
所以在這裡的規定當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7139.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7141.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
我要啦董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7141.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7143.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
請問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7143.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7145.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
我們的安寮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7146.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7148.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
那個社會主宰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7148.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7149.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7149.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7150.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
有什麼動作嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7150.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7152.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
到現在去到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7152.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7154.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
在本來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7154.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7155.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
我所有了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7155.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7157.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
一點滿十倍拍了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7158.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7160.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
我感覺我看不到這個安寮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7162.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7164.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
現在就是企圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7164.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7165.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
企圖的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7165.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7166.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
還在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7167.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7170.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
現在已經跟國務處也到三天很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7170.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7172.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
應該是慢慢地跑了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7172.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7174.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
現在是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7174.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7176.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
安寮現在不在跑了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7176.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7178.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
同樣說在這裡用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7179.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7181.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
那個布包蓋著 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7181.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7182.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
我覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7182.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7184.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
不管是誰來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7185.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7187.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
用要去的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7187.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7188.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
我們的中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7188.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7190.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
要學做它 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7190.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7191.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
要怎麼去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7191.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7193.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
這個地方可以放那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7194.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7195.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
頭啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7195.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7196.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
大氣爆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7197.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7198.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
不全部已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7198.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7200.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
我想無法想像了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7200.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7203.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
得來不易的社會主宰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7203.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7205.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
結果放在那裡的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7206.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7208.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
我知道東西也過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7209.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7211.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
我們的工廠也壞掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7211.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7213.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
這都是廢物 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7213.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7215.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
還在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7215.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7217.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
我們要趕緊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7217.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7218.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
跟他們去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7218.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7219.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
要怎麼找 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7219.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7221.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
可以放那裡的頭啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7222.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7223.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
好可怕喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7224.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7225.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
沒有用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7225.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7227.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
把我們放在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7227.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7229.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
還要解決的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7229.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7231.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
這樣就很慘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7231.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7232.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
這個專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7232.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7233.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
因為都有通案處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7233.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7235.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
因為全台灣很多的所在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7235.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7236.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
一家一家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7236.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7238.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
已經比之前好很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7238.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7239.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
這家應該我回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7239.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
7240.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
趕快來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
7240.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
7241.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
積極的來處理這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
7241.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
7242.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
7242.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
7243.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
因為我覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
7243.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
7244.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
不管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
7244.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
7245.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
當地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
7245.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
7247.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
我相信我們沒有什麼分寸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7247.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
7249.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
這是我們的年輕家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
7249.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
7251.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
還是多士的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
7251.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
7253.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
我們的領略範圍可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
7253.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
7255.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
再來照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
7256.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
7257.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
不說實在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
7257.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
7259.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
我看要記得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
7259.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
7261.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
有種在應對路 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
7261.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
7263.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
還是一圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
7263.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
7264.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
在破壞路兩段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
7264.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
7265.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
還是一圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
7265.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
7266.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
在高峰路 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
7266.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
7268.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
站一圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
7268.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
7270.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
我們看起來很高興 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
7270.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
7271.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
嚴國教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
7271.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
7272.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
無情為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
7274.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
7276.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
不知道當時要完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
7278.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
7279.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
我們現在回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
7279.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
7280.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
趕快把政策處理好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
7280.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
7282.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
再給委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
7282.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
7283.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
你算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
7283.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
7284.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
冠軍回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
7284.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
7286.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
還可以處理好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
7286.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
7287.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
開會開完才可以回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
7287.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
7288.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
現在不能回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
7288.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
7289.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
7289.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
7290.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
7290.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
7291.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
我們開會之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
7291.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
7292.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
你要回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
7292.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
7294.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
冠軍去做協作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
7294.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
7296.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
因為我知道這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
7296.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
7298.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
一定存在很久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
7298.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
7299.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
所以在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
7299.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
7302.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
當時你們本事要跟你說的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
7302.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
7304.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
我們的教義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
7304.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
7306.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
我們有的氣概 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
7306.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
7308.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
國賣國罷了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
7308.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
7310.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
跟二次三的聯誼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
7311.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
7313.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
終結不在國八號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
7314.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
7316.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
因為要國罷不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
7316.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
7318.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
英雄國罷的人而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
7318.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
7323.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
是英雄中國百福來賓的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
7323.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
7326.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
這是非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
7326.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
7327.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
7327.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
7329.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
當時我們本事要跟你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
7329.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
7330.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
7330.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
7331.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
我們有的盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
7331.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
7333.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
有的做法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
7333.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
7335.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
在日升階也有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
7335.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
7337.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
像你們剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
7337.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
7338.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
我們的署長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
7338.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
7340.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
跟地方人買 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
7341.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
7343.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
英國人來賓客 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
7344.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
7345.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
7345.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
7346.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
當時你們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
7346.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
7347.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
如果地方的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
7347.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
7348.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
為了想要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
7348.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
7350.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
要怎麼下去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
7350.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
7351.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
侯元寶這 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
7351.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
7352.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
比較要下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
7352.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
7353.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
現在沒有給我們支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
7353.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
7355.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
因為我們國家主要中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
7355.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
7356.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
就是現在沒有給我們支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
7356.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
7357.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
就一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
7357.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
7359.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
我們就下去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
7359.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
7360.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
現在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
7360.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
7361.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
現在沒有給我們支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
7361.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
7362.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
我們就絕對會做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
7362.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
7364.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
來這樣署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
7366.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
7368.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
現在當署長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
7368.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
7370.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
你們如果支持他就做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
7370.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
7372.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
7372.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
7373.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
說實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
7373.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
7375.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
沒有署的人很難過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
7375.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
7376.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
去做的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
7376.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
7377.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
7378.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
7380.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
處處要來我們看也不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
7380.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
7382.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
所以我們中央的美意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
7383.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
7386.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
又等於政府的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
7387.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
7389.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
我們現在要來這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
7390.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
7391.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
7391.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
7392.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
讓大家知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
7393.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
7395.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
有機會我們會去抽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
7396.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
7397.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
7397.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
7398.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
7398.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
7400.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
你說都問地方的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
7400.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
7402.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
我來請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
7403.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
7406.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
台北市當地的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
7406.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
7408.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
提供什麼意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
7408.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
7409.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
他這三個為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
7409.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
7411.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
還有想要去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
7411.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
7412.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
來回答一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
7414.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
7416.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
我如果認真打拼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
7417.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
7419.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
我會下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
7419.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
7421.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
因為沒有署的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
7421.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
7422.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
做署的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
7422.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
7424.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
真的很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
7424.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
7425.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
台北市報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
7425.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
7426.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
我們這種地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
7426.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
7427.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
都會提出需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
7427.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
7429.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
當然我們自己也會去判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
7429.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
7430.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
不是啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
7430.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
7431.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
我知道你以前說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
7431.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
7433.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
整個地方的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
7433.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
7436.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
我現在問自己去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
7436.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
7437.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
對 自己去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
7437.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
7438.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
其實這方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
7438.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
7440.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
我也會去跟他們討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
7440.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
7441.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
看他們的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
7441.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
7443.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
我們有一個專業的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
7443.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
7444.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
會給他們建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
7444.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
7445.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
我也會評估地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
7445.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
7447.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
這部分我們會來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
7447.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
7448.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
你們會來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
7448.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
7450.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
因為我覺得地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
7450.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
7453.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
你也要協助他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
7453.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
7454.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
因為說實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
7454.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
7456.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
在地方政府的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
7456.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
7459.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
他找地方很好找 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
7459.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
7460.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
我們也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
7460.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
7463.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
八成的需求是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
7463.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
7464.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
所以署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
7464.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
7466.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
在本社交流探討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
7466.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
7467.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
這裡的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
7467.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
7469.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
我們也加在市的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
7469.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
7470.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
社會住宅也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
7470.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
7472.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
婚姻宅也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
7473.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
7475.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
會當高金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
7475.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
7476.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
高富發財 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
7476.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
7477.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
會年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
7477.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
7479.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
跟要結婚的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
7479.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
7480.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
有一個女人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
7480.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
7482.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
也有一個男人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
7482.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
7483.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
7489.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
7491.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
現在為請書僑會委員發言資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
7504.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
7505.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
7505.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
7507.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
我們請劉部長和花董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
7512.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
7513.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
7513.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
7514.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
7514.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
7516.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
部長我直接請您和花董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
7516.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
7517.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
是因為我後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
7517.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
7518.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
可能要問的稍微細一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
7518.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
7520.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
所以如果是方向以外的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
7520.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
7522.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
您需要由花董事長回答的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
7522.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
7523.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
請自行決定這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
7523.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
7526.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
部長我現在想要跟您討論的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
7526.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
7528.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
其實我們今天在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
7528.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
7529.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
最重要的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
7529.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
7531.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
讓社會上的每一個族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
7531.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
7533.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
不管是從年紀或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
7533.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
7535.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
職業別、身分別等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
7535.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
7538.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
都能夠有一個安心的家住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
7538.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
7539.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
所以我們希望政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
7539.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
7541.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
能夠提供社會住宅也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
7541.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
7543.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
或者是高租貸款用各種方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
7543.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
7545.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
這就是我們所謂的多元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
7545.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
7547.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
能夠到百萬戶這樣的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
7547.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
7549.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
那我今天其實想要跟你討論的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
7549.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
7550.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
7550.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
7553.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
像我們在說婚育宅婚育宅的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
7553.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
7554.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
其實我們一直在想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
7554.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
7556.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
為什麼我們要婚育宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
7556.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
7558.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
第一個是為了鼓勵青年人敢生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
7558.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
7560.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
但是第二個當他生了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
7560.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
7563.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
其實住在社宅最大的麻煩就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
7563.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
7564.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
社會住宅有期限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
7564.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
7565.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
三年一到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
7565.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
7566.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
甚至最多兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
7566.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
7567.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
對那就六年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
7567.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
7568.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
所以會換地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
7568.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
7569.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
所以內政部有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
7569.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
7570.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
可以大膽的試想過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
7570.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
7572.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
有沒有二十年的婚育宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
7572.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
7573.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
因為我提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
7573.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
7576.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
我覺得其實我們可以在新北來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
7576.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
7579.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
試辦二十年的婚育宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
7579.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
7582.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
就是讓我們成家立業的青年人之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
7582.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
7583.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
他的孩子出生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
7583.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
7584.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
真的就不用換學區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
7584.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
7586.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
可以在同一個地方長大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
7586.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
7587.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
我的同學都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
7587.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
7589.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
這才是真正家的感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
7589.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
7590.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
我們想要創造的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
7590.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
7592.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
所以第一個我跟您就問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
7592.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
7594.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
這個婚育宅的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
7594.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
7595.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
試辦二十年長住型 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
7595.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
7597.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
內政部的態度怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
7597.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
7598.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
7598.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
7600.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
委員非常關心年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
7600.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
7602.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
包括婚育宅的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
7602.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
7604.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
在我們目前的部分確實沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
7604.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
7605.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
就是可能他是六年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
7605.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
7606.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
這是十二年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
7606.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
7608.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
但是我們按照地方制度法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
7608.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
7610.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
或是按照委員所在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
7610.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
7612.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
新北市的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
7612.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
7615.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
新北市也有新北市蓋的社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
7615.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
7616.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
那如果您願意提出這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
7616.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
7617.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
試辦辦法的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
7617.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
7618.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
我們會樂觀其成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
7618.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
7619.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
樂觀其成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
7619.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
7620.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
所以這是可以的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
7620.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
7622.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
因為你知道社會住宅的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
7622.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
7624.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
其實大家都還在搶當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
7624.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
7626.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
其實都還是算少的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
7626.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
7628.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
可是如果我們用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
7628.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
7629.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
試辦的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
7629.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
7630.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
來試試看這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
7630.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
7633.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
二十年的長住婚育宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
7633.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
7634.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
是不是真的能夠鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
7634.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
7635.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
年輕人婚育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
7635.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
7637.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
那我想這是一個好的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
7637.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
7638.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
所以我會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
7638.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
7639.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
如果我有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
7639.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
7640.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
我一定來試辦這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
7640.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
7642.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
這樣的青年婚育宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
7642.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
7643.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
二十年長住型 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
7643.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
7644.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
在新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
7644.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
7646.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
好那第二個包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
7646.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
7648.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
那我看兩位是誰可以回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
7648.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
7649.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
都沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
7649.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
7650.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
這個包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
7650.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
7652.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
等於是我們在這幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
7652.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
7653.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
從小英總統上任之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
7653.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
7655.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
創造出來的一個新制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
7655.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
7657.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
而事實上它非常非常的成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
7657.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
7659.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
因為它把社會上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
7659.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
7661.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
空於閒住的住屋房舍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
7661.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
7663.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
拿出來變成是給市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
7663.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
7665.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
這個一般社會大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
7665.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
7666.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
有需要的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
7666.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
7668.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
所以等於創造三贏的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
7668.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
7670.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
但是就我的觀察 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
7670.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
7671.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
其實現在包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
7671.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
7673.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
其實應該成熟到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
7673.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
7675.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
可以有更細緻的階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
7675.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
7676.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
7676.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
7678.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
我覺得它其實可以一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
7678.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
7680.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
再向租金補貼也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
7680.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
7681.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
或者是社宅也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
7681.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
7683.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
它因為承租人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
7683.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
7685.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
需求者的身分不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
7685.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
7687.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
也許我們可以創造出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
7687.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
7689.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
不同類型的包租代管方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
7689.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
7691.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
專門給這樣的一個特定族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
7691.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
7693.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
是不是能夠更達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
7693.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
7695.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
照顧社會大眾的需求呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
7695.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
7697.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
我提出的是第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
7697.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
7698.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
我認為包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
7698.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
7700.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
可以優先租給高齡長者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
7700.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
7702.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
這個高齡長者的定義如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
7702.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
7704.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
我們可以大家細步再來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
7704.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
7706.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
但我覺得有適合的房型 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
7706.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
7708.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
給適當的高齡長者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
7708.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
7709.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
這是用專案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
7709.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
7711.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
讓他們不用跟別人搶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
7711.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
7712.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
讓他們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
7712.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
7714.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
這是政府有把關過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
7714.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
7716.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
適合高齡長者的住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
7716.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
7718.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
而從包租代管快速的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
7718.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
7720.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
達到這樣的房舍取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
7720.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
7722.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
並且有政府的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
7722.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
7723.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
我覺得高齡長者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
7723.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
7725.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
是可以有的一個專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
7725.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
7726.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
另外一個的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
7726.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
7727.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
我非常希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
7727.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
7728.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
我自己有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
7728.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
7729.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
可以實施的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
7729.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
7730.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
在新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
7730.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
7732.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
就是在大學旁邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
7732.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
7733.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
大學旁邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
7733.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
7734.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
學生其實很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
7734.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
7736.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
學生宿舍永遠不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
7736.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
7737.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
學生宿舍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
7737.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
7738.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
那你一棟一棟蓋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
7738.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
7739.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
當然可以啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
7739.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
7741.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
但是緩不濟急 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
7741.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
7743.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
所以我認為包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
7743.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
7745.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
在大學旁邊附近 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
7745.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
7747.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
變成是政府和包租業者的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
7747.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
7749.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
一個推動的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
7749.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
7750.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
讓學生知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
7750.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
7751.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
來這裡找的房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
7751.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
7753.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
都是有保障的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
7753.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
7754.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
房東是好人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
7754.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
7755.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
租金是適當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
7755.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
7758.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
那房型也是品質不錯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
7758.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
7760.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
那如果是這樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
7760.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
7762.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
學生是不是可以減少很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
7762.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
7765.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
誤觸壞房東的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
7765.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
7767.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
那甚至是在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
7767.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
7768.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
我們可以快速的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
7768.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
7770.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
完成就學的準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
7770.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
7772.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
所以我認為包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
7772.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
7775.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
是可以提出專案的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
7775.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
7776.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
來管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
7776.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
7777.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
那我自己提出兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
7777.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
7778.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
一個是高齡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
7778.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
7779.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
一個是學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
7779.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
7781.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
那不曉得部長或董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
7781.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
7782.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
這邊怎麼看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
7782.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
7783.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
7783.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
7784.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
委員的真知灼見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
7784.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
7786.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
我們競表贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
7786.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
7787.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
那跟委員補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
7787.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
7788.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
那這樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
7788.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
7789.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
就是中央開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
7789.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
7790.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
我也贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
7790.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
7791.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
然後這錢你出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
7791.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
7792.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
不錯啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
7792.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
7793.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
7793.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
7794.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
因為以後我新北市的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
7794.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
7796.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
我當然希望中央出錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
7796.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
7798.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
那個財政收支劃分法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
7798.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
7799.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
還是有一定的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
7799.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
7800.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
我還是爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
7800.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
7801.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
7801.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
7802.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
7802.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
7803.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
確實沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
7803.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
7804.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
我們在推出包租代管的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
7804.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
7806.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
已經把這個有效的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
7806.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
7807.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
空餘屋下降的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
7807.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
7809.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
達到三萬多戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
7809.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
7810.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
那這個我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
7810.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
7812.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
不管是從環境保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
7812.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
7813.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
或是從這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
7813.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
7814.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
空餘屋的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
7814.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
7815.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
聚化市場來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
7815.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
7817.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
其實是一個不錯的市場供給 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
7817.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
7819.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
那您所提到的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
7819.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
7820.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
能不能根據在社區裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
7820.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
7822.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
這個長照族群裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
7822.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
7825.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
有沒有包租代管的這個專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
7825.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
7826.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
我覺得可以考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
7826.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
7828.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
學生的教育族群裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
7828.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
7829.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
有沒有屬於學生的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
7829.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
7831.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
包租代管的專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
7831.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
7832.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
我想我們可以來考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
7832.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
7834.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
那也非常希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
7834.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
7836.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
如果這個委員有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
7836.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
7838.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
可以在新北市實施這樣的政見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
7838.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
7839.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
那我們會來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
7839.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
7840.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
非常感謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
7840.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
7841.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
7841.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
7842.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
我們是不是也可以請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
7842.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
7843.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
董事長這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
7843.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
7844.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
也再多一點的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
7844.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
7846.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
就是如果在這樣子的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
7846.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
7847.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
是可行的狀態的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
7847.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
7848.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
其實我也認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
7848.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
7850.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
甚至是可以提出更多的誘因 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
7850.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
7854.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
比如說資訊可以更適當 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
7854.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
7856.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
更容易的傳達到需要的族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
7857.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
7859.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
那甚至是在補貼的部分或等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
7859.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
7861.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
是不是還有其他的鼓勵措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
7861.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
7862.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
可以讓這種方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
7862.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
7864.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
是可以更推行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
7864.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
7865.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
不曉得董事長這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
7865.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
7866.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
因為您是專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
7866.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
7867.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
所以第一贊不贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
7867.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
7868.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
第二如果是贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
7868.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
7870.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
然後讓這些方案是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
7870.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
7872.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
專門型的包租代管方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
7872.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
7873.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
可以順利上路的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
7873.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
7875.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
你會認為還可以提供什麼樣的誘因 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
7877.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
7878.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
7878.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
7882.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
當然其實社宅包租代管的多元發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
7882.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
7885.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
絕對是未來會發生的趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
7885.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
7887.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
就是不可擋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
7887.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
7889.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
那至少當然我們現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
7889.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
7891.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
在所謂的社宅這項的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
7891.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
7896.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
那弱勢比例有40%的一個保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
7896.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
7900.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
那對於婚姻宅也有一定40%的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
7900.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
7902.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
那都已經跟業者再來嘗試 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
7902.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
7904.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
我們針對某一類族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
7904.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
7906.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
怎麼樣在這場的影響底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
7906.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
7911.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
來建立出該有的保障的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
7912.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
7916.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
那這個部分在接下來這段時間練兵之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
7916.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
7920.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
其實當然我們可以開始再開出可能更多元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
7920.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
7923.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
那來設計什麼樣的房型適合什麼樣的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
7923.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
7925.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
來讓業者來再往下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
7925.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
7927.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
我認為至少我的這兩種類型裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
7927.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
7930.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
在大學城旁邊的學生包租代管方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
7930.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
7932.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
就可以先行開始研議了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
7932.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
7935.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
因為包括他們的合約的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
7935.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
7938.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
那是不是可以讓雙方更容易覺得說要有保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
7938.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
7939.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
然後對學生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
7939.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
7942.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
因為他的租期是跟配合學期制的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
7942.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
7944.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
然後甚至是學年制的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
7944.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
7945.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
所以怎麼個設計法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
7945.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
7946.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
我覺得這個都可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
7946.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
7950.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
這個部分其實一方面有些已經在做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
7950.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
7953.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
但是大學旁邊很多是大的大房東 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
7953.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
7954.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
自己在經營的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
7954.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
7958.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
那他要不要加入包租代管的這一段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
7958.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
7960.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
我覺得我們在制度上面法令上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
7960.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
7962.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
還可以再來加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
7962.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
7964.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
正是因為有很多是大房東 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
7964.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
7966.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
所以我需要政府作風 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
7966.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
7968.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
他習慣自己管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
7968.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
7970.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
沒有再委託給業者管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
7970.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
7973.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
那這個部分其實我相信後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
7973.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
7976.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
還有可以再強化的一些法令基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
7976.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
7977.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
好那因為時間的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
7977.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
7980.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
其實我還有兩個題目想要請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
7980.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
7982.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
那第二個題目我就直接是要求了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
7982.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
7983.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
因為我們上次是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
7983.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
7987.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
設宅候補系統應該落實資訊公開的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
7987.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
7991.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
那其實在駐居中心上次董事長也有跟我們表達說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
7991.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
7994.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
預計九月就會有一站式的系統建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
7994.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
7996.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
然後大概九月會上線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
7996.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
8000.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
請問這個系統現在還是如期嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
8002.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
8004.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
就是查詢我是候補第幾號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
8004.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
8008.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
所以我1號候補1號候補100號等待的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
8008.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
8010.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
會完全不一樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
8010.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
8011.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
我今天沒有準備到這個資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
8011.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
8014.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
我是不是委員請我回去馬上把這個資料給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
8014.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
8016.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
因為上次九月會上線是您這邊承諾的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
8016.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
8018.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
所以麻煩您再提供一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
8018.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
8021.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
好那最後我還是回到部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
8021.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
8022.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
部長我再跟您反映一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
8022.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
8023.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
這也是我們收到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
8023.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
8026.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
我們覺得有道理的這個陳情案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
8026.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
8027.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
那我們在這裡跟您就教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
8027.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
8031.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
就是我們用的租屋補貼的分級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
8031.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
8033.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
其實可以再更細緻化一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
8033.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
8035.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
因為我們現在是按照兩個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
8035.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
8037.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
一個是所在地分三級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
8037.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
8040.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
然後再來是不同身份我們會再加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
8040.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
8042.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
所以會出現有一種類別 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
8042.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
8043.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
我們覺得特別需要討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
8043.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
8046.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
就是40歲以下單身 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
8047.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
8050.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
40歲以下單身在這樣子的狀況裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
8050.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
8053.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
他會被全部打成一包 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
8053.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
8056.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
然後他就是租金的補貼成1.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
8056.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
8060.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
可是40歲以下單身其實是對多元類型的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
8061.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
8064.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
學生他有剛畢業剛就業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
8064.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
8065.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
他也有已經不錯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
8065.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
8068.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
40歲有人甚至可以當老闆了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
8068.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
8069.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
但是他還是單身 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
8069.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
8072.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
黃金單身漢黃金單身女都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
8072.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
8074.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
所以40歲以下單身 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
8074.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
8076.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
其實是一個最多元的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
8076.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
8079.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
有時候最需要被扶住的扶持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
8079.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
8080.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
也就是在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
8080.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
8082.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
所以大家如果都打成一包的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
8082.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
8083.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
都是1.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
8083.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
8085.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
其實有時候還是心情上會覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
8085.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
8087.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
不是那麼公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
8087.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
8089.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
然後所以需要支持的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
8089.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
8090.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
是不是可以更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
8090.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
8092.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
所以我們在這裡就直接建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
8092.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
8094.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
畢竟是不是可以考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
8094.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
8095.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
是不是研議一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
8095.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
8099.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
在40歲以下的租金補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
8099.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
8100.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
租屋補貼的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
8100.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
8102.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
還有機會再細緻化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
8104.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
8106.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
報告委員我想這個是有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
8106.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
8108.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
因為我們一直在累積這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
8108.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
8109.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
滾動的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
8109.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
8110.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
8110.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
8112.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
我們的租金補貼裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
8112.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
8116.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
已經有91.9萬戶裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
8116.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
8119.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
其中的單身青年已經有52萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
8119.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
8121.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
那這52萬戶裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
8121.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
8122.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
我們可以再就細緻 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
8122.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
8123.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
像委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
8123.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
8125.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
其實就是就學和當畢業的這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
8125.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
8127.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
是不是可以再把租金補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
8127.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
8128.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
再做細緻的分級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
8128.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
8129.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
就是他會有學籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
8129.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
8130.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
再加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
8130.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
8131.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
再加碼補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
8131.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
8132.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
那這個部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
8132.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
8133.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
這個部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
8133.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
8135.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
我們譬如說跟教育部來勾集 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
8135.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
8137.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
或是跟勞動部來做勾集 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
8137.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
8138.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
我們會做研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
8138.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
8139.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
好 謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
8139.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
8140.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
8145.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
8146.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
好 休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
8200.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
8202.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
8929.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
8930.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
好 我們繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
8930.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
8931.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
那先跟委員報歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
8931.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
8934.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
這個在吳靜敏委員質詢前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
8934.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
8936.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
因為上半場的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
8936.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
8938.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
有關本席以及王美慧委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
8938.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
8939.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
所質詢事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
8939.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
8941.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
可能同仁跟部長所提供資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
8941.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
8942.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
與事實有些落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
8942.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
8944.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
我們是不是先請部長補充說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
8949.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
8950.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
謝謝昭委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
8950.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
8953.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
在我們在備詢的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
8953.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
8954.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
有一些資訊的落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
8954.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
8955.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
我想在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
8955.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
8957.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
跟大家報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
8957.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
8958.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
那個六委員所提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
8958.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
8960.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
有關白袍湖的這個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
8960.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
8962.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
原來編列是1.59億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
8962.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
8965.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
那114年被刪1.24元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
8965.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
8968.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
到114年追加預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
8968.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
8970.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
是追加1.03億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
8970.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
8972.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
那那個時候是8月29三讀通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
8972.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
8974.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
未來要處理其他的開發 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
8974.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
8977.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
或是其他的相關的行政程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
8977.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
8978.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
會來不及 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
8978.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
8983.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
所以我們在115年保留1.03億元的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
8983.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
8985.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
到目前為止還沒有完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
8985.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
8987.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
這個保留預算的執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
8987.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
8990.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
那115年6月18日報行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
8990.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
8991.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
那行政院還沒有核定下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
8993.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
8995.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
對不起 那個文委會委員所提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
8995.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
8998.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
有關嘉義的安寮好市的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
8998.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
9000.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
那跟文委員補充報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
9000.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
9002.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
就是安寮好市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
9002.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
9004.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
如果是有這個土資方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
9004.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
9005.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
出現狀況的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
9005.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
9007.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
我們會國土署來安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
9007.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
9009.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
協調地方的土資廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
9009.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
9011.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
來協助處理土資的去化方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
9011.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
9013.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
然後讓社會住宅的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
9013.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
9015.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
會比較快一點 加速完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
9023.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
9025.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
我再補充更精確 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
9025.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
9028.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
還有落差2100萬是補助給新北市政府的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
9028.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
9031.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
其實也是有含在不同的項目裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
9031.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
9033.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
那這個就跟中央的預算無關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
9033.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
9035.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
抱歉 那我們繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
9035.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
9037.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
我們接下來請吳其民委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
9048.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
9050.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
主席 我們議會總人 前內政部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
9052 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
9054 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
以及我們國土署署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
9054 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
9056 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
還有住置中心董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
9056.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
9058.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
地政司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
9059.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
9061.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
9061.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
9063.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
今天大家討論社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
9063.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
9065.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
這個興建已包住代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
9065.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
9067.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
那本行在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
9067.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
9069.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
看到這個事跡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
9069.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
9071.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
真的有點嚇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
9071.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
9073.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
就近期我們那個造基 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
9073.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
9075.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
房屋管理包住代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
9075.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
9077.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
還有寄居卸 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
9077.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
9079.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
置屋這兩家公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
9079.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
9081.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
所占的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
9081.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
9083.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
對主要是比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
9083.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
9085.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
還有公司的危機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
9085.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
9087.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
以及掏空的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
9087.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
9089.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
9089.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
9091.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
真的是我們都要去注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
9091.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
9093.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
不能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
9093.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
9095.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
我們推動的一個包住代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
9095.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
9097.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
9097.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
9099.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
這都是很好的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
9099.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
9101.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
這也是我們蔡英文的時代所推動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
9101.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
9103.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
所推動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
9103.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
9105.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
大家都看到這個成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
9105.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
9107.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
那後來才看到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
9107.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
9109.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
怎麼會這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
9109.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
9111.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
所以請我們董事長來做說明好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
9111.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
9113.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
好 董事長 英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
9113.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
9115.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
第一 現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
9115.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
9117.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
社會住宅包住代管有效租約 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
9117.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
9119.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
大概在11萬多戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
9119.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
9121.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
那造基和寄居卸 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
9121.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
9123.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
現在合併起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
9123.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
9125.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
的案件大概是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
9125.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
9127.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
2萬1000戶左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
9127.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
9131.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
2萬1000到2萬2000 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
9131.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
9133.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
所以大概是兩成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
9133.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
9135.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
是這兩家業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
9135.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
9137.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
家種的一個服務量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
9137.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
9139.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
那當然過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
9139.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
9141.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
因為其實也鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
9141.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
9143.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
業者努力的做案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
9143.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
9145.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
所以說並不會去設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
9145.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
9147.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
他做案子的天花板 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
9147.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
9149.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
你只要真的依規定做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
9149.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
9151.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
那我們就依規定來補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
9151.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
9153.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
那當然今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
9153.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
9155.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
大家有擔憂說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
9155.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
9157.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
服務的規模是不是要有一個合理的管控等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
9157.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
9159.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
我想這部分我會跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
9159.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
9161.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
內政部也跟公會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
9161.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
9163.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
大家再來做一些討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
9163.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
9165.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
怎麼樣維持一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
9166.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
9168.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
業者還是可以努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
9168.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
9170.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
但是也避免過度或大而導致 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
9170.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
9172.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
風險集中的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
9172.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
9174.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
這部分我們一起來後續講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
9174.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
9176.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
我一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
9177.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
9179.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
本席這邊的市集 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
9179.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
9181.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
就佔了3萬多戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
9181.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
9183.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
3萬多戶的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
9183.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
9185.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
沒有那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
9185.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
9187.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
所以在業界 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
9187.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
9189.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
很多人都在承攬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
9189.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
9191.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
這種包租貸款的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
9191.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
9193.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
是不是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
9193.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
9195.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
把它限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
9195.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
9197.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
不要讓它超過一個水平 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
9197.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
9199.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
將這個風險把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
9199.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
9201.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
分散 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
9201.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
9203.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
現在可以保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
9203.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
9205.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
未來不要來同操 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
9205.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
9207.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
有這種事情嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
9207.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
9209.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
我們內政部跟公會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
9209.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
9211.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
大家最近來討論一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
9211.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
9213.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
比較適切的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
9213.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
9215.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
我們是要針對問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
9215.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
9217.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
既然跟東台積發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
9217.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
9219.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
我們就是要針對問題來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
9219.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
9221.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
9221.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
9223.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
我現在請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
9223.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
9225.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
董事長先請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
9225.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
9227.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
9227.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
9229.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
其實你講我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
9229.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
9231.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
不光是社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
9231.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
9233.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
它的租約 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
9233.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
9235.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
期限是不是可以拉長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
9235.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
9237.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
尤其我們現在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
9237.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
9239.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
0歲到18歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
9239.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
9241.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
政府補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
9241.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
9243.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
政府補助是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
9243.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
9245.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
要是新結婚 |
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9245.97 |
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9247.97 |
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有孩子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
9247.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
9249.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
我們也把它拉長到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
9249.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
9251.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
0歲到18歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
9251.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
9253.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
孩子在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
9253.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
9255.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
他不用常常換房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
9255.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
9257.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
因為孩子的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
9257.97 |
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9259.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
讓他可以固定在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
9259.97 |
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9261.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
0歲到18歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
9261.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
9263.97 |
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那你未來的租約 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
9263.97 |
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9265.97 |
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是不是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
9265.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
9267.97 |
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有新婚的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
9267.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
9269.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
有小孩的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
9269.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
9271.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
我們可以用這個配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
9271.97 |
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9273.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
我認為這個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
9273.97 |
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9275.97 |
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是一個非常好的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
9279.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
9281.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
所以這樣才可以說 |
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9281.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
9283.12 |
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確實在照顧到所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
9283.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
9285.12 |
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在基層的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
9285.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
9287.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
9287.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
9289.12 |
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年輕人大家都會怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
9289.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
9291.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
買房子買不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
9291.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
9293.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
租金外面又太高了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
9293.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
9295.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
但社會住宅起碼穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
9294.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
9296.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
不用說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
9296.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
9298.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
合約已自定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
9298.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
9300.85 |
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就是18年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
9300.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
9302.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
孩子也敢生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
9302.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
9304.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
未來要救生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
9304.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
9306.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
都救生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
9305.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
9307.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
還有房子也很重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
9308.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
9310.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
這對雍宏明都是好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
9310.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
9312.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
所以好的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
9312.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
9314.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
我們一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
9314.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
9316.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
下一推動好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
9344.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
9346.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
請問地政司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
9346.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
9348.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
9348.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
9350.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
請問地政司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
9350.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
9352.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
請問地政司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
9352.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
9354.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
請問地政司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
9354.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
9356.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
請問地政司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
9356.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
9358.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
請問地政司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
9358.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
9360.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
請問地政司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
9360.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
9362.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
請問地政司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
9362.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
9364.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
請問地政司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
9364.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
9366.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
請問地政司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
9366.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
9368.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
請問地政司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
9368.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
9370.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
請問地政司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
9370.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
9372.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
請問地政司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
9371.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
9373.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
9373.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
9375.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
9375.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
9377.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
土城的四環園區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
9377.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
9379.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
四環園區現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
9379.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
9381.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
又延期了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
9381.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
9383.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
很多地主他們都提出反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
9383.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
9385.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
我們延期的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
9385.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
9387.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
是會延多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
9387.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
9389.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
先跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
9389.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
9391.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
因為去年台電突然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
9391.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
9393.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
通知我們161KV |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
9393.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
9395.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
要在我們的道路下面鋪設 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
9395.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
9397.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
所以整個道路的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
9397.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
9399.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
整地水保 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
9399.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
9401.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
全部都要做一個調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
9401.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
9403.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
我們現在的話第一方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
9403.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
9405.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
是請廠商來幫我們改工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
9405.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
9407.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
第二個部分的話就是公祈安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
9407.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
9409.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
我們會調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
9409.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
9411.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
117年我們社宅用地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
9411.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
9413.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
會交地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
9413.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
9415.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
配給民眾的地我們會先趕在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
9415.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
9417.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
118年先交給民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
9417.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
9419.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
再來完成其他的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
9419.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
9421.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
會先把民眾權益的部分先顧好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
9421.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
9423.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
好 司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
9423.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
9425.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
現在很多民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
9425.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
9427.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
他們有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
9427.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
9429.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
我們就在適當的時段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
9429.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
9431.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
跟民眾來做過動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
9431.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
9433.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
OK 好沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
9433.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
9435.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
那我們請國土事務署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
9438.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
9440.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
好 司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
9440.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
9442.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
剛才王美慧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
9442.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
9444.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
她說得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
9444.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
9446.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
因為現在全國都面臨土方之亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
9446.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
9448.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
這點都請你很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
9448.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
9450.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
其實土方之亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
9450.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
9452.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
這當然是一個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
9452.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
9454.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
要改變之前你配套一定要先出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
9454.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
9456.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
不然都會去遇到這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
9456.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
9458.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
所以我們做民意代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
9458.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
9460.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
我們的壓力都很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
9460.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
9462.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
遇到的問題大家就心麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
9463.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
9465.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
如果要怎麼解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
9465.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
9467.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
現在我們不是辦法解決了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
9466.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
9468.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
所以說我們中方有任何政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
9468.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
9470.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
之前性行為溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
9470.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
9472.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
才來做改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
9472.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
9474.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
不然你會這個土方之亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
9474.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
9476.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
你現在全國都在罵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
9476.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
9478.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
這點就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
9478.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
9480.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
我要在這個時段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
9480.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
9482.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
要拜託你們一定要拿出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
9482.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
9484.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
有改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
9484.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
9486.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
有辦法配套的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
9486.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
9488.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
才來實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
9488.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
9490.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
我們現在下半年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
9490.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
9492.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
都有法規在修訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
9492.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
9494.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
我們把輸給他們的投豐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
9494.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
9496.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
輸給他們的投豐可以做交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
9496.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
9498.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
這部分就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
9498.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
9500.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
A到B到C |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
9500.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
9502.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
希望的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
9502.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
9504.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
所以這都有跟台中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
9504.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
9506.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
經過的溝通也有開過的會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
9506.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
9508.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
大約在年底前會完成修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
9508.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
9510.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
9510.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
9512.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
因為剛才美惠說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
9512.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
9514.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
其實我們地方的民意代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
9514.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
9516.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
大家都有這個壓力存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
9516.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
9518.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
9523.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
9525.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
我們下一位請劉淑賓委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
9540.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
9542.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
9542.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
9544.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
有請內政部的部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
9549.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
9551.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
好部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
9551.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
9553.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
那總統在選前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
9553.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
9555.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
他已經提出了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
9555.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
9557.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
要信誓旦旦的表示國家希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
9557.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
9559.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
工程當中承諾要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
9559.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
9561.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
新增13萬戶的社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
9561.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
9563.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
住宅但是根據你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
9563.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
9565.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
最新的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
9565.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
9567.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
13萬戶的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
9567.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
9569.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
到現在被砍到只剩下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
9569.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
9571.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
3萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
9571.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
9573.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
那這3萬戶裡面還有2.5萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
9573.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
9575.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
是蔡政府時期延續的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
9575.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
9577.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
那真正要去新增 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
9577.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
9579.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
那新增的到117年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
9579.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
9581.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
開始每年就只有1000戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
9581.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
9583.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
那承諾13萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
9583.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
9585.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
現在變3萬戶是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
9585.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
9587.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
政策太飄飄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
9587.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
9589.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
謝謝委員關心賴總統的政見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
9589.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
9591.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
我們在多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
9591.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
9593.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
跟委員報告的時候都提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
9593.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
9595.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
13萬戶的目標沒有變 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
9595.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
9597.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
但是直接新建改成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
9597.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
9599.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
多元新辦那包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
9599.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
9601.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
我們可能榮獎的部分希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
9601.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
9603.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
民間的業者也一起加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
9603.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
9605.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
包括都更分回等等這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
9605.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
9607.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
所以還是跟委員報告你現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
9607.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
9609.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
所說的這個3萬戶的部分是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
9609.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
9611.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
現階段第一階段要完成的3萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
9611.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
9613.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
這個是沒有問題因為這跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
9613.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
9615.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
已經都盤點好了那未來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
9615.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
9617.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
10萬戶的部分的話我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
9617.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
9619.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
一定持續的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
9619.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
9621.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
希望在時間內可以達成這個目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
9621.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
9623.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
好那我知道你們有包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
9623.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
9625.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
多元的這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
9625.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
9627.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
房屋政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
9627.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
9629.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
那請問一下因為這就是包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
9629.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
9631.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
包租代管跟租金補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
9631.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
9633.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
那在這個部分的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
9633.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
9635.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
我想要問的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
9635.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
9637.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
這個部分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
9638.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
9640.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
這部分的租金的房價 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
9640.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
9642.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
租金的指數上面你們有沒有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
9642.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
9644.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
做調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
9643.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
9645.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
我們當然有做調查才能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
9645.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
9647.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
訂定租金的這個分級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
9648.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
9650.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
對那你們調查的結果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
9650.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
9652.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
我是不是請我們地政司長跟您 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
9652.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
9654.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
報告一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
9657.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
9659.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
報告委員那個我們每半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
9659.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
9661.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
每半年都會透過我們現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
9661.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
9663.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
租金補貼的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
9663.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
9665.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
那像上一期的部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
9665.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
9667.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
每半年都會公布一個租金的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
9667.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
9669.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
統計分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
9669.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
9671.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
不是統計他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
9671.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
9673.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
中位數的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
9673.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
9675.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
情況每個行政區的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
9675.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
9677.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
中位數的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
9677.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
9679.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
每半年發布像上一期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
9679.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
9681.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
就用70萬筆的租金補貼的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
9681.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
9683.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
來做統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
9683.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
9685.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
你們我看到的內政部自己在7月的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
9685.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
9687.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
報告當中是上揚的趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
9687.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
9689.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
這整體是上揚的趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
9689.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
9691.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
9691.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
9693.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
這一115年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
9693.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
9695.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
上半年的現在應該會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
9695.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
9697.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
近期會公布 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
9697.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
9699.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
那我們從我們過去幾期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
9699.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
9701.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
的調查資料其實整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
9701.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
9703.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
租金的水準都是平穩的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
9703.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
9705.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
好謝謝那我請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
9705.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
9707.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
內政部長因為你剛才在回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
9707.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
9709.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
吳其民委員的時候你也提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
9709.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
9711.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
現在的社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
9711.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
9713.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
要夠的話才能夠達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
9713.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
9715.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
讓這樣的租金的房價才會降下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
9715.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
9717.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
9717.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
9719.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
可是剛才你提到是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
9719.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
9721.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
這個剛才的就是8年之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
9721.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
9723.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
在8年之內的這個13萬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
9725.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
9727.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
社會住宅的量才是確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
9728.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
9730.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
但是你們就不知道什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
9730.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
9732.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
是委員我想我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
9732.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
9734.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
我再把您提的問題我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
9734.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
9736.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
再重新講一次第一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
9736.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
9738.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
13萬戶的目標沒有改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
9738.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
9740.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
是在8年之內嗎原來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
9740.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
9742.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
的直接興辦我們現在改成多元 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
9742.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
9744.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
興辦那同時呢我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
9744.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
9746.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
在去年所修的 雲淡重建說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
9746.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
9748.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
就是那請問你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
9748.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
9750.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
那後面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
9749.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
9751.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
那個10萬是要什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
9751.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
9753.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
建立起來啊是我就是跟委員要補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
9753.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
9755.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
這個部分第一個我們會從這個 |
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現在的社會住宅 |
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的包租代管裡面 |
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也會有婚禦宅你一定會講完 |
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你一定會講完 |
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然後再來就是說在 |
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我們原來的宿地裡面所 |
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9767.87 |
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9769.87 |
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蓋的社會住宅當然這是大家 |
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都同意的那另外一個 |
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我們會從榮獎的部分 |
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包括都更分回 |
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或是包括危老或是包括都市 |
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9779.87 |
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計畫的台灣省建築技術規則 |
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9781.87 |
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裡面來做一下修正 |
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9781.87 |
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9783.87 |
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鼓勵更多的民間來參與 |
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9783.87 |
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9785.87 |
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然後他參與所修建 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
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出來的榮獎裡面 |
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9787.87 |
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9789.87 |
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出來的就是社會住宅 |
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9789.87 |
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9791.87 |
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那這個社會住宅是全台灣要盤點的 |
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那這個全台灣盤點的數量 |
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9793.87 |
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9795.87 |
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我們需要經過 |
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9795.87 |
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9797.87 |
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這個大院如果 |
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9799.87 |
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通過都更跟危老的條例的時候 |
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才能夠算出來這個 |
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9801.87 |
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9803.87 |
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可以出來的社會 |
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9805.87 |
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住宅量是多少 |
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9807.87 |
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我們一直在跟社會大眾 |
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9807.87 |
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在做溝通就是這叫做 |
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9811.87 |
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滾動式的這個調整 |
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9811.87 |
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9813.87 |
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但是我們的社會住宅量不會是 |
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9813.87 |
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9815.87 |
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只有三萬一定是往上 |
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9815.87 |
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9817.87 |
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增加的滾動式調整 |
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9817.87 |
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9819.87 |
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你們的八年到十二年到二十年都可以這樣講 |
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9819.87 |
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9821.87 |
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目標沒有變但是重點是時辰 |
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9821.87 |
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9823.87 |
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什麼要落實那剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
9823.87 |
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9825.87 |
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有提到的是這個土地 |
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因為你們在一百 |
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9827.87 |
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9829.87 |
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一百一十二年 |
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9831.87 |
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的時候有明定的這樣子的 |
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9831.87 |
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9833.87 |
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一個整體開發計畫留設 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
9833.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
9835.87 |
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三趴到五趴的土地公設宅使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
9835.87 |
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那由中央來 |
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新購 |
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那現在一百一十四年 |
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9841.87 |
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9843.87 |
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舊版計畫當中還編了八百零 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
9843.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
9845.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
一點三億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
9845.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
9847.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
要來架構這些土地 |
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9847.87 |
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9849.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
現在新版計畫把這筆錢都刪了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
9849.87 |
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9851.87 |
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那你們要求的是 |
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9851.87 |
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9853.87 |
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現在把這樣子的 |
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9853.87 |
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9855.87 |
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地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
9855.87 |
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9857.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
土地有留著但是現在又刪了預算不滿 |
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9857.87 |
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9859.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
然後回過來跟人民說 |
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9859.87 |
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9861.87 |
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不是你的土地現在 |
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9861.87 |
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9863.87 |
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你們在想說現在目前的話你們對於這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
9863.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
9865.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
地方政府所依法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
9865.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
9867.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
留設的土地是打算怎麼樣的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
9868.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
9870.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
請署長跟您回答一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
9871.57 |
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9873.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
跟委員報告這個部分確實地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
9873.57 |
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9875.57 |
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我們有要求在一些整開區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
9875.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
9877.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
要留設這個社福用地 |
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9877.57 |
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9879.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
那但是這些社福用地未來如果要蓋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
9879.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
9881.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
社宅的部分這個土地要由地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
9881.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
9883.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
來提供所以我們這個 |
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9883.57 |
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9885.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
之前有以前可能 |
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9885.57 |
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9887.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
會用中央的預算去買 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
9887.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
9889.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
但是這個部分要地方共同來分擔 |
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9889.57 |
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9891.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
那這個其實我們開會都有跟地方 |
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9891.57 |
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9893.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
溝通過了所以我剛我們 |
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9893.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
9895.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
這一次第一階段要做的三萬戶裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
9895.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
9897.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
有些區域就是這一方面 |
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9897.57 |
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9899.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
跟地方有做過好溝通 |
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9899.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
9901.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
後面我們每年都會再去檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
9901.57 |
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9903.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
像下半年又會檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
9903.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
9905.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
那檢討地方有一些比較新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
9905.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
9907.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
整開區提供出來的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
9907.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
9909.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
這個部分我們會再去修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
9909.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
9911.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
抱怨的一個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
9911.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
9913.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
好這看起來都沒有時程性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
9913.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
9915.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
這就是很大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
9915.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
9917.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
剛剛包娃娃說的社宅的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
9917.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
9919.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
他沒有辦法就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
9919.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
9921.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
在時程上面沒有呈現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
9921.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
9923.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
就目標但是時程沒有呈現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
9923.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
9925.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
我們目標是121年就是13萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
9925.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
9927.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
所以我們其實用這個目標跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
9927.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
9929.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
都有盤點那些數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
9929.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
9931.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
但是有確定的我們才能夠寫在抱怨計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
9931.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
9933.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
因為這個涉及到預算的編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
9933.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
9935.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
9935.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
9937.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
這個一定要比較精準一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
9937.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
9939.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
就是抱怨計畫要精準一點 |
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9939.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
9941.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
那是國土署內部的一個作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
9941.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
9943.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
希望這個部分因為 |
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9943.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
9945.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
每次都在說我們從 |
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9945.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
9947.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
113年到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
9947.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
9949.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
115年兩次的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
9949.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
9951.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
到後來的現在看到說是 |
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9951.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
9953.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
121年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
9953.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
9955.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
這樣整個的社宅機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
9955.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
9957.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
才可能落實每次兩年就新 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
9957.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
9959.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
這個一個計畫出現的話 |
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9959.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
9961.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
到時候真的8年能不能實現 |
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9961.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
9963.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
是很大的問題 |
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9963.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
9965.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
然後我們剛剛也看到說如果社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
9965.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
9967.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
他的時間計畫沒有出現的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
9967.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
9969.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
他的沒辦法真正的時間落實出來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
9969.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
9971.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
租金的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
9971.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
9973.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
房價部分租金的部分也會再提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
9973.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
9975.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
根本就沒有辦法去真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
9975.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
9977.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
讓所謂的社會居住正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
9977.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
9979.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
可以落實這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
9979.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
9981.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
就是應該要對政部要持續的觀察 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
9981.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
9983.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
當然也是我們立法委員會持續在關注的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
9983.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
9985.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
9992.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
9994.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
我們下一位請牛巡廷委員發言資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
10001.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
10003.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
10004.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
10006.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
10005.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
10007.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
好今天這個題目很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
10007.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
10009.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
辛青安也可以講20分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
10009.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
10011.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
對不對社宅講20分鐘高度待管講20分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
10011.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
10013.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
但是我只有5分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
10013.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
10015.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
那我們就講重點好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
10015.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
10017.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
這當然大家都關心了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
10017.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
10019.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
社宅直接興辦的狀況顯然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
10019.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
10021.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
有很大的一個縮水 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
10021.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
10023.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
剛我聽了部長的回答說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
10023.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
10025.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
我們還是以13萬戶為目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
10025.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
10027.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
但第一階段是3萬戶你這第一階段幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
10028.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
10030.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
第一階段寫在上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
10030.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
10034.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
我們請署長跟您回答一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
10034.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
10036.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
10036.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
10038.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
跟委員報告我們3萬戶就是在117年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
10038.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
10040.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
我們已經有確定的案件就是3萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
10040.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
10044.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
但是我們像今年15年還會再繼續盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
10044.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
10046.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
那有可能116會有再新增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
10046.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
10048.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
所以我們會在表格上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
10048.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
10050.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
會新呈現新的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
10050.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
10052.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
這個部分就每年都會檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
10052.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
10054.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
但是抱怨計畫這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
10054.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
10056.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
還是要確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
10056.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
10058.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
從114年等等開始大家都在追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
10058.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
10061.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
賴清德總統具體來講要怎麼樣來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
10061.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
10063.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
他當初承諾跟所有選民承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
10063.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
10065.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
都是社會住宅的一個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
10065.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
10068.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
然後大家得到的結論是這個計畫延宕了半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
10068.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
10071.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
一直遲遲的沒有辦法得到一個共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
10071.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
10073.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
然後最後這個共識出來是縮水 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
10073.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
10075.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
那縮水之後當然就被罵爆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
10075.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
10077.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
那罵爆之後現在又講說以13萬戶為目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
10077.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
10079.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
我真的是建議啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
10079.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
10081.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
誠心建議劉部長還有署長大家都辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
10081.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
10084.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
真的完全沒有必要搞這一出啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
10084.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
10086.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
來我們看一下這個投影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
10087.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
10089.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
按照現在這個規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
10089.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
10091.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
民進黨政府執政之後的承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
10091.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
10093.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
就從蔡英文總統開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
10093.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
10096.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
承諾直接興建20萬戶的社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
10096.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
10098.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
然後賴清德總統加碼宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
10098.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
10100.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
我要增加13萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
10100.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
10102.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
然後17萬戶的包租貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
10102.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
10104.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
加上50萬戶的租屋補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
10104.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
10106.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
形成所謂的百萬政府支持的住宅政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
10106.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
10108.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
這樣的一個核心綱要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
10108.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
10110.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
那最新的草案按照最新的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
10110.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
10112.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
官方的資料顯示 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
10112.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
10114.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
興建設宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
10113.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
10114.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
你可以看嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
10114.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
10116.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
蔡英文總統承諾興建20萬戶住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
10116.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
10118.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
但實際上他8年任期結束之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
10118.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
10119.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
包含到現在計算進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
10120.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
10121.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
頂到天啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
10121.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
10122.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
就這樣還沒有蓋完的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
10122.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
10124.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
也就只有14.5萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
10124.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
10126.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
換言之啊這政府的承諾本來就要打個折扣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
10126.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
10129.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
因為你實際上執行起來會遇到各式各樣的問題跟阻礙 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
10129.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
10131.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
那你在打折扣的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
10131.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
10133.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
按照現在最新的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
10133.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
10135.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
包含你現在縮水的3萬戶裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
10135.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
10137.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
這個包含還有2.5萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
10137.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
10139.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
還有2.5萬戶等於是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
10139.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
10140.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
這個蔡英文總統還在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
10140.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
10142.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
就是剛出規劃任期尾端之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
10142.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
10143.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
核定的一些計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
10143.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
10146.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
實際上你剛講117年這個時間點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
10146.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
10148.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
真正從賴政府找到地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
10148.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
10150.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
新增然後要核定這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
10151.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
10153.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
就用千的單位來算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
10153.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
10154.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
只剩下1000戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
10154.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
10157.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
這我今天要講的不只是這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
10157.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
10159.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
很多人都在講說我們就多元處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
10159.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
10161.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
我們包租貸款有增加等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
10161.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
10163.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
但是包租貸款是包租貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
10163.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
10165.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
直接興辦社宅是直接興辦社宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
10165.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
10169.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
不管在區會選擇房型選擇等等租期保障方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
10169.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
10171.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
這社會住宅的穩定性都還是最高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
10171.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
10173.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
所以大家在居住正義的倡議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
10173.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
10175.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
跟居住正義的選擇裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
10175.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
10178.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
直接興辦社宅它本來就是一個大家最期待的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
10178.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
10179.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
第一優先這樣一個方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
10179.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
10181.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
但這樣的方案持續的縮水 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
10181.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
10183.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
部長你覺得這樣有辦法回應人民的期待嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
10184.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
10187.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
謝謝委員您所提出的那個意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
10187.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
10189.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
我覺得是非常的務實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
10189.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
10191.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
但是我們有另外一個新的倡議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
10191.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
10193.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
就是我們建議在榮獎上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
10193.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
10194.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
尤其從都跟圍牢裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
10194.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
10195.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
才可以取得社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
10195.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
10197.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
這個部分也必須要大院跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
10197.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
10198.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
跟一起來合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
10198.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
10200.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
我跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
10200.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
10203.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
這個部分就是說我們希望鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
10203.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
10205.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
更多的民間的營造公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
10205.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
10208.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
或者是建築公司願意投入社會住宅的興建 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
10208.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
10211.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
那你願意投入社會住宅興建的鼓勵辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
10211.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
10215.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
政府儘量少出我們自己的公務預算的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
10215.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
10217.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
就是鼓勵他用榮獎的方式來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
10217.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
10218.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
我現在就擔心這事了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
10219.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
10221.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
社會住宅興建壓力很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
10221.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
10222.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
不是不外乎兩件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
10222.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
10225.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
一要地 一要錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
10225.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
10227.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
我有足夠的用地好好來興建 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
10227.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
10229.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
其實社會住宅量很快就可以拉起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
10229.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
10230.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
那當然第二個要件是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
10230.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
10233.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
政府要充分提供財務的一個資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
10233.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
10236.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
我們政府在各項政務方面推動的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
10236.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
10237.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
我都不是很理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
10237.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
10238.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
為什麼這個東西在錢的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
10238.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
10239.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
這麼蜘蛛必較 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
10239.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
10240.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
這麼注重財政紀律 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
10240.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
10243.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
社會住宅本來就是要提供給需求者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
10243.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
10245.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
而且是真正社會上弱勢的人也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
10245.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
10246.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
青年也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
10246.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
10247.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
或者是大家納入婚育的也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
10247.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
10249.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
他本來就有很強的一個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
10249.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
10250.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
縱效在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
10250.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
10252.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
但是你講說你剛剛部長的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
10252.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
10254.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
也證明了只要能夠省下錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
10254.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
10255.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
我們也很樂意多蓋一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
10255.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
10257.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
我關注到的事情是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
10257.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
10259.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
是剛剛除了劉樹平委員有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
10259.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
10261.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
你的自行購地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
10261.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
10262.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
我要買地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
10262.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
10263.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
有很多的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
10263.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
10264.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
我自行刪除了之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
10264.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
10265.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
這我們也注意到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
10265.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
10267.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
117年起工程絕標的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
10267.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
10270.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
也就是真正在賴政府規劃的案件裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
10270.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
10273.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
中央政府不再提供地方政府非自償補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
10273.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
10275.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
你等於把這個政策的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
10275.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
10277.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
政策的資源你通通都截止掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
10277.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
10278.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
那截止掉之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
10278.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
10280.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
那還怎麼樣把量衝上來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
10280.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
10281.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
部長你剛剛有提到講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
10281.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
10283.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
這個都更危老等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
10283.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
10286.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
全台灣有具備都更危老的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
10286.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
10288.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
講句實在話也就台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
10288.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
10290.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
新北市部分的區域 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
10290.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
10293.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
其他的地方都還是以新的捷運整開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
10293.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
10294.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
等等的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
10294.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
10297.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
來作為這個都市發展的最大的一個動力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
10297.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
10299.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
換言之你如果只是把這個社會住 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
10299.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
10301.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
來期待建立在危老都更 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
10301.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
10304.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
台北市新北市能夠從命區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
10304.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
10306.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
有都更需求的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
10306.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
10308.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
能擠也擠不出多少戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
10308.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
10309.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
所以即便你有這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
10309.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
10310.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
所以你要管動式檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
10310.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
10312.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
這種也騙不了人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
10312.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
10313.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
我們現在要求的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
10313.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
10315.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
報告委員我們在討論的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
10315.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
10317.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
我們絕對沒有用騙這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
10317.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
10318.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
應該是說你的期望值 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
10318.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
10321.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
跟我們的預估值可能有落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
10321.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
10323.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
我剛才提到都更危老條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
10323.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
10324.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
還有一個都市計畫法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
10324.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
10326.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
這個台灣省施行細則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
10326.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
10328.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
這個部分提供的榮獎的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
10328.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
10331.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
大部分都會是集中在都會區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
10331.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
10332.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
那既然是都會區的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
10332.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
10334.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
倒是不一定是北三都 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
10334.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
10336.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
你剛剛講的期待對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
10336.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
10337.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
我講的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
10337.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
10339.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
我們當然是從最高期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
10339.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
10340.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
我當然希望你可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
10340.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
10341.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
我當然希望你可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
10341.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
10342.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
蓋立百萬戶兩百萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
10342.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
10343.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
這是我個人期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
10343.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
10344.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
因為我關注這個題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
10344.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
10345.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
但我們的期待標準是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
10345.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
10346.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
賴清德總統承認承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
10346.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
10348.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
是直接興建十三萬戶社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
10348.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
10349.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
10349.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
10350.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
所以你沒有做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
10350.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
10351.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
那不是騙是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
10352.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
10353.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
所以我覺得不要用話術 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
10353.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
10354.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
來處理這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
10354.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
10355.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
我沒有用話術 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
10355.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
10356.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
10356.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
10357.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
我們在討論的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
10357.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
10360.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
我們都是非常傾聽各位的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
10360.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
10363.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
只是說在滾動調查過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
10363.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
10364.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
可能第一個數據上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
10364.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
10366.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
我們必須要做比較好的盤整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
10366.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
10368.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
第二個我們在處理的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
10368.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
10370.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
我還是一再強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
10370.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
10371.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
以往從樹地裡面興建 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
10371.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
10372.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
我們認為這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
10372.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
10374.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
一個單一的方向不是很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
10374.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
10376.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
所以用多元的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
10376.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
10377.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
那既然是多元的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
10377.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
10378.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
可以取得的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
10378.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
10379.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
我覺得委員應該支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
10379.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
10380.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
我們朝這方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
10380.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
10381.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
包括修法的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
10381.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
10383.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
我們之前修法有講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
10383.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
10385.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
這個住宅法201條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
10385.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
10386.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
就是社宅儲備用地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
10386.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
10388.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
不就是希望你在這個整開的區域 |
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10388.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
10390.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
可以取得大面積的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
10390.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
10391.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
可以來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
10391.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
10393.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
結論是我修這個法的配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
10393.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
10395.88 |
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就是希望你直接興辦的數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
10395.88 |
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10396.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
可以增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
10396.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
10397.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
結果我們修了半天之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
10397.88 |
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10399.88 |
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你直接興辦的數量反而是減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
10399.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
10400.88 |
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那不是很奇怪嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
10400.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
10401.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
大家幫你把工具都找到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
10401.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
10402.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
把路又鋪平了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
10402.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
10404.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
你只要提供相關的一些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
10404.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
10406.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
中央地方一起來協力興建 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
10406.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
10409.88 |
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完全可以依照賴總統當初的承諾來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
10409.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
10410.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
所以我才講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
10410.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
10412.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
這一段這個波折完全實屬不必 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
10412.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
10415.88 |
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你按照本來這個路徑去做不就好了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
10415.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
10416.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
說到地的這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
10416.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
10417.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
我也要補充再問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
10417.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
10419.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
當今年1月23號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
10419.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
10420.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
我們也在討論社宅的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
10420.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
10421.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
這羅天惠委員質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
10421.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
10423.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
曾經有要求內政部提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
10423.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
10424.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
這個土地盤點的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
10424.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
10426.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
因為我講不外乎就是資源跟地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
10426.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
10429.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
那本席的辦公室也兩度屈含內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
10429.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
10431.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
要求詳細的盤點資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
10431.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
10432.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
第一次的回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
10432.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
10433.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
只有六個縣市的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
10433.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
10434.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
第二次直接講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
10434.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
10436.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
我們還在盤點跟檢討之中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
10436.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
10438.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
確定前欠難提供相關細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
10438.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
10439.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
現在已經8月了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
10439.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
10440.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
你什麼時候要提供相關細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
10440.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
10441.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
10441.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
10442.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
我想在你所提到的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
10442.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
10444.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
確實它是存在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
10444.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
10446.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
那當時我們以為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
10446.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
10447.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
我們只要報到院裡頭的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
10447.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
10450.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
院的部分只要是公開的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
10450.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
10452.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
已經經過確定的計畫的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
10452.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
10453.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
這時候對外公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
10453.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
10455.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
後來因為院沒有核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
10455.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
10456.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
所以我們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
10456.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
10457.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
按照政府的資訊公開法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
10457.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
10461.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
不宜來公開這相關的數據給委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
10461.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
10462.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
所以我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
10462.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
10463.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
包括黨團協商的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
10463.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
10464.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
也已經兩度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
10464.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
10467.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
也包括民眾黨黨團提到這方面的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
10467.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
10468.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
請委員能夠了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
10468.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
10471.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
所以資源的部分大量的尊節 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
10471.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
10474.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
用地的部分也說因為沒有核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
10474.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
10477.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
那我真的今天質詢的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
10477.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
10478.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
就留待大家公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
10478.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
10480.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
大家到底政府到底有沒有誠意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
10480.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
10481.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
要推動這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
10481.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
10482.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
我想人民心中有數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
10482.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
10483.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
我最後花一點點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
10483.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
10485.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
補充一下包租代管的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
10485.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
10487.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
因為最近財務問題很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
10487.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
10489.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
但是孰令自知 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
10489.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
10490.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
當我們政府強制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
10490.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
10492.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
因為我曾經承諾100萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
10492.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
10494.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
然後我大量膨脹包租代管的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
10494.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
10495.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
我都搞不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
10495.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
10496.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
我都搞不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
10496.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
10497.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
到底是在扶植業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
10497.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
10500.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
還是真正在照顧居住者的需求的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
10500.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
10501.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
在包租的模式下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
10501.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
10503.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
業者現在沒有找到房客 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
10503.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
10504.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
我就要先付大量的押金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
10504.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
10505.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
屋況不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
10505.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
10506.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
我就要負擔裝修的成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
10506.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
10509.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
所以前期的資本投入就非常的高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
10509.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
10511.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
就是因為前期的資本投入非常高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
10511.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
10512.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
大部分就借錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
10512.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
10513.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
然後財務槓桿出現問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
10513.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
10515.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
才出現現在的財務危機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
10515.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
10516.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
然後到最後導致 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
10516.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
10518.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
這個政策沒有辦法貫徹 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
10518.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
10520.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
如果我們持續膨脹這樣的數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
10520.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
10522.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
卻壓縮了政府可以直接導引 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
10522.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
10524.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
直接處理的這個社會住宅的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
10524.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
10527.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
你形成的未來風險只會越來越大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
10527.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
10528.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
今天的時間不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
10528.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
10530.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
我就不多聽你的回答了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
10530.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
10531.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
但是我們懷疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
10531.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
10532.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
你到底只是要處理產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
10532.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
10533.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
還是要照顧弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
10533.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
10534.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
如果真的要照顧弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
10534.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
10536.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
滿足居住者的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
10536.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
10539.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
請你回到正常的政策邏輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
10539.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
10541.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
按照住宅法當初修正了各項的配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
10541.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
10543.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
積極的來直接興辦社宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
10543.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
10545.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
不要去砍這些什麼自償性補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
10545.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
10547.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
你反而應該加碼補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
10547.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
10549.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
我們大家都知道國防預算很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
10549.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
10550.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
所以大家都會支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
10550.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
10551.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
10551.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
10552.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
雖然有點中間有點吵架 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
10552.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
10553.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
住宅預算難道不重要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
10553.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
10555.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
我們現在面對少子女化危機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
10555.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
10557.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
上次住宅法修法提高婚餘宅的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
10557.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
10560.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
如果直接興辦社宅的進度是零 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
10560.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
10562.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
那你幾%幾%還不是零 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
10562.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
10563.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
10563.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
10564.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
所以我希望部長署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
10564.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
10566.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
回去好好再思考一下這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
10566.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
10568.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
不要讓這個錯誤的政策繼續延續下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
10568.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
10569.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
10576.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
10578.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
我們現在為了請李坤城委員發言責詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
10586.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
10588.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
10588.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
10590.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
我們請內政部劉部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
10590.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
10592.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
駐都中心的花董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
10594.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
10595.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
10595.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
10596.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
10597.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
10601.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
現在這個包租代管的這一家寄居蟹 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
10601.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
10602.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
兩手一攤 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
10602.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
10604.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
他說他沒辦法提供服務了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
10604.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
10608.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
然後他的這個全台灣有6640戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
10608.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
10610.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
然後你們給我資料是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
10610.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
10613.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
新北市就有2677戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
10613.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
10615.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
然後當然有包租有代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
10615.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
10618.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
然後連同他的另外一家公司造基 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
10618.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
10620.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
造基中央跟地方合起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
10620.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
10623.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
有15689戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
10623.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
10626.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
所以造基加寄居蟹兩個合起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
10626.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
10627.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
數字蠻大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
10627.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
10629.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
22329戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
10629.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
10630.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
好那先請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
10630.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
10631.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
造基我等一下再問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
10631.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
10632.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
先問寄居蟹 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
10632.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
10634.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
寄居蟹他已經說他沒辦法提供服務了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
10634.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
10635.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
那請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
10635.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
10638.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
寄居蟹他沒辦法提供服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
10638.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
10642.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
那現在這個轉賢的情況怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
10643.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
10644.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
好謝謝委員關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
10644.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
10646.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
其實所謂寄居蟹沒辦法提供服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
10646.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
10648.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
並不是說他現在已經完全什麼都不做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].start |
10648.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].end |
10650.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].text |
因為他們員工現在都還在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
10650.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].end |
10653.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].text |
所以說他們會全力協助轉賢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].start |
10653.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
10654.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
10654.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
10657.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
這基本上這個事情我們還有一定的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
10657.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
10659.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
那轉賢的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
10659.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
10662.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
我們已經從昨天開始啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
10662.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
10665.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
那到現在為止大概已經處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
10665.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].end |
10666.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
就是寄居蟹的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
10666.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
10669.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
已經有超過400戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
10669.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].end |
10671.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].text |
已經跟房東銜接上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
10671.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].end |
10673.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
那開始處理他轉到其他人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
10673.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
10675.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
你說新的這個公司跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
10675.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
10679.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
他轉賢就是把寄居蟹的6600個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
10679.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
10682.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
轉給六都的其他正在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
10682.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
10685.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
社宅包租代管的其他的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
10685.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
10686.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
他們自己去找就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
10686.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
10690.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
我們通過平台讓房東主動表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
10690.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
10693.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
他希望哪一家業者來銜接他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
10693.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].end |
10696.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
如果他沒有熟悉的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
10696.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
10699.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
那我們會依照業者的名單排序去輪動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
10699.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
10701.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
第一個來就先找第一家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
10701.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
10704.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
第二個來就找第二家來平均分散 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
10704.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
10708.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
那到目前為止已經有超過400個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
10708.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
10710.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
已經開始銜接了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
10710.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
10711.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
可是還有6000多戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
10711.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
10714.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
對所以說我們昨天才開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
10714.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
10716.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
那你預計多久時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
10716.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
10718.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
可以轉賢完這6000多戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
10718.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
10721.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
我覺得預計應該一個月之內可以處理完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
10721.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
10723.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
一個月之內可以處理完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
10723.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
10727.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
因為這個轉賢包含了這個租金跟押金的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
10727.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
10728.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
10728.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
10730.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
那所以就是說現在大家比較擔心就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
10730.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
10733.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
好啦我如果是這個房東的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
10733.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
10734.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
或是我是房客 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
10734.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
10736.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
因為他有包租有代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
10736.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
10738.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
那這個租金的問題怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
10738.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
10739.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
我已經付出去的租金怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
10739.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
10741.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
我已經付出去的押金怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
10741.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
10744.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
然後這些也都會轉給新界的公司嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
10744.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
10746.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
其實代管比較單純 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
10746.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
10748.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
因為代管的租金本來就付給房東了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
10748.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
10751.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
所以只是服務比較單純包租比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
10751.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
10753.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
包租稍微複雜一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
10753.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
10758.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
因為業者還是要按時間付房租給原房東 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
10758.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
10760.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
他在向房客收房租 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
10761.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
10763.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
所以說這個部分就會我剛講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
10763.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
10766.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
基居縣的員工就會協助在這些案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
10766.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
10768.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
跟未來要新銜接的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
10768.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
10770.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
來做彼此之間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
10771.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
10773.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
該怎麼樣結算的動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
10773.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
10775.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
其實問題最大的問題就在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
10775.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
10777.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
就是說換了業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
10777.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
10781.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
那租約租金押金該怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
10781.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
10782.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
押金比較單純 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
10784.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
10787.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
原來基居縣付給原房東的押金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
10787.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
10790.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
也就等於他跟房客收的押金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
10790.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
10795.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
所以說當房東和房客都轉到新的業者底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
10795.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
10798.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
其實只要把這些押金的關係同步銜接 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
10798.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
10800.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
大家簽好彼此的契約 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
10800.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
10802.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
結束之前的契約 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
10802.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
10803.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
跟基居縣的契約 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
10803.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
10805.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
那個押金就過去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
10805.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
10809.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
那租金的部分就是看他什麼時候開始起租 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
10809.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
10811.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
只是把那個租期搭在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
10811.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
10813.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
因為我們對於租約是從 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
10815.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
10817.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
照原契約銜接 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
10817.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
10819.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
不可以調漲租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
10819.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
10821.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
而且不要再去更動契約 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
10821.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
10823.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
所以說實質上他是在相對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
10823.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
10825.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
變動最小的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
10825.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
10827.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
在做這個移動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
10827.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
10829.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
那這幾天讓我們把 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
10829.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
10831.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
理先的實務把它操作好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
10831.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
10832.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
一個月的時間6000多戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
10832.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
10834.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
你認為可以轉銜成功就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
10834.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
10836.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
我不敢講百分之百 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
10836.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
10837.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
我不敢講百分之百 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
10837.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
10840.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
因為有些房東他可能有自己的想法說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
10840.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
10842.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
那他要退出社宅包租貸款等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
10842.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
10844.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
那我們都會尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
10844.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
10846.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
那我就請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
10846.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
10850.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
那所以政府能不能向房東房客保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
10850.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
10851.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
租金不會中斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
10851.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
10852.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
租約也不會中斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
10852.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
10854.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
押金也會拿得回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
10854.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
10855.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
10855.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
10856.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
我們現在跟各個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
10856.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
10858.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
尤其是六都的縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
10858.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
10860.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
就是有這樣的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
10860.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
10861.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
我們已經有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
10861.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
10863.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
就是房東跟房客的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
10863.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
10865.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
不會受到影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
10865.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
10867.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
這已經有提出這樣的保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
10867.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
10869.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
所以才會六都的這個租福公會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
10869.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
10872.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
願意介入所謂的轉銜機制裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
10872.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
10875.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
那這個住租中心都在積極的協助當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
10875.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
10879.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
因為今天民眾不論你是房東還是房客 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
10879.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
10881.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
他參加這個包租貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
10881.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
10882.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
他不是只有相信這個業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
10882.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
10884.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
其實是相信政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
10884.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
10885.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].text |
還是相信政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
10885.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
10886.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
因為政府在推這個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
10886.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
10888.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].text |
那所以剛剛部長的答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].start |
10888.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].end |
10891.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].text |
至少讓這個房東房客有這個信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].start |
10891.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].end |
10895.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].text |
就是說這個會按照這個出事之前的這個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].start |
10895.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].end |
10898.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].text |
權利義務不會改變就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].start |
10898.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].end |
10899.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].text |
是的而且我們也公布這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].start |
10899.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].end |
10901.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].text |
六都的這個服務窗口 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].start |
10901.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].end |
10903.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].text |
如果有任何公務部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].start |
10903.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].end |
10906.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].text |
不是這個租金補貼的這個租福公會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].start |
10906.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].end |
10910.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].text |
這個公會的那個電話號碼跟單一窗口都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].start |
10910.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
10913.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].text |
如果他們任何諮詢方面的問題都會打來問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].start |
10913.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].end |
10915.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].text |
那目前為止大概來問的這個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].start |
10915.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].end |
10918.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].text |
沒有外界所想像當中那麼的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
10918.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].end |
10921.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].text |
也就是他們了解裡面的房東房客的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].start |
10921.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].end |
10924.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].text |
沒有受到影響之後大概就比較好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].start |
10924.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].end |
10926.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].text |
好那這個是寄居蟹 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].start |
10926.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
10928.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
我現在問一下造基 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].start |
10928.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
10930.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
造基算是餵爆蛋喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
10930.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
10933.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
你們有沒有去了解一下造基的這個情況怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
10933.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
10935.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
因為造基為什麼說是餵爆蛋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].start |
10935.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
10937.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
因為本來董事長已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
10937.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
10939.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
現在已經被這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
10939.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
10941.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
應該被壓起來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
10941.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
10942.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].start |
10942.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
10946.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
這個本來還有這個宏基的這個人員要進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].start |
10946.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].end |
10948.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].text |
然後結果呢宏基的人呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].start |
10948.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].end |
10950.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].text |
發現說裡面有問題之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].start |
10950.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].end |
10951.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].text |
兩天就辭掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].start |
10951.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].end |
10954.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].text |
表示他知道說造基有問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].start |
10954.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].end |
10956.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].text |
那所以你們有沒有去了解造基的問題所在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].start |
10956.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].end |
10958.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
因為我很擔心他成為一個餵爆蛋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].start |
10958.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].end |
10959.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].text |
而且他的量更大啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].start |
10959.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].end |
10960.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].text |
他的量更大啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].start |
10960.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].end |
10961.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].start |
10964.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].end |
10967.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].text |
造基的第一任銜接的董事長是王靖祥先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].start |
10967.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].end |
10968.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].text |
他是原董事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].start |
10968.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].end |
10972.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].text |
到後來是宏基派任的李文祥董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].start |
10972.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].end |
10973.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].text |
是第二任董事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].start |
10973.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].end |
10976.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].text |
到前天他們的董事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].start |
10976.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].end |
10980.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].text |
臨時董事會又指派了王貴珍總經理代理總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].start |
10980.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].end |
10983.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].text |
其實這兩位董事長跟總經理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].start |
10983.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].end |
10985.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].text |
在一上任的第一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].start |
10985.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].end |
10987.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].text |
我就立刻約詢他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].start |
10987.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].end |
10990.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].text |
詳細了解他們所掌握的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].start |
10990.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].end |
10992.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].text |
然後接著我每天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].start |
10992.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].end |
10994.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
他們在任幾天我就是每天都跟他們保持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
10994.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].end |
10997.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].text |
所以他們發現問題很大所以跑掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].start |
10997.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].end |
10998.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
10998.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].end |
11002.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
董事長你這邊了解問題所在嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].start |
11002.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].end |
11006.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
其實我這些部分大家也在媒體上都看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].start |
11006.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].end |
11009.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
例如說在前天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].start |
11009.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
11012.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
造基的帳戶可能被銀行變成警示帳戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
11012.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].end |
11016.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
那當然我就會再繼續追問他們怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].start |
11016.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
11018.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
現在我們在昨天的下午 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
11018.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
11020.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
他們已經把警示帳戶的問題解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].start |
11020.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].end |
11022.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
所以現在帳戶已經不是警示帳戶了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
11022.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].end |
11024.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
他現在是執行缺口的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].start |
11024.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].end |
11026.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
對今天他們我的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
11026.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
11030.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
他們今天正要跟銀行團談這個資金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
11030.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
11033.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
現在他們的負債跟他們的帳戶之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
11033.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
11035.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
怎麼樣把融資 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
11035.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].end |
11038.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
原來融資的銀行是不是還同意繼續融資給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
11038.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
11041.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
還是由其他的銀行來銜接新的融資 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].start |
11041.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].end |
11042.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
今天正在談 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
11042.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
11044.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
所以今天如果談出一個結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
11044.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].end |
11048.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
我當然我們都會第一時間馬上了解狀況如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
11048.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
11050.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
那他們也會對外說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].start |
11050.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
11053.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
因為昨天我跟他們的新的代理總經理講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
11053.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].end |
11055.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
好那我簡單問董事長好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
11055.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].end |
11058.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
那你看起來你很了解這個造基的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].start |
11058.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
11061.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
我自己也不太了解太多的債務的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].start |
11061.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
11063.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
但是公司現在運作的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].start |
11063.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].end |
11065.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
我們當然一定要充分掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].start |
11065.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
11067.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
那所以你能保證說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
11067.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
11070.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
造基不會成為下一個寄居線嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
11070.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
11071.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
我沒有辦法保證 |
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其實 |
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哇你不能保證大家就頭很大啦 |
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11080.41 |
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我們所有的造基的現在的營運團隊 |
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11082.41 |
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其實大家都沒有辦法說我百分之百 |
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因為 |
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但是大家都在努力的 |
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大家都在努力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
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11087.41 |
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那你有沒有想一個最後的打算 |
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11089.41 |
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如果造基也跟寄居線一樣 |
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11090.41 |
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兩手一帶說沒有辦法 |
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11092.41 |
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因為我沒有權利去保證 |
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11092.41 |
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11094.41 |
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我保證是虛的是假的 |
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11094.41 |
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11095.41 |
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我保證是虛是假 |
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11095.41 |
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11097.41 |
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所以你今天是在負責這一塊 |
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11097.41 |
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11100.41 |
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所以我不希望說就像跟寄居線一樣 |
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11100.41 |
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11102.41 |
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那未來我們政府就是擦屁股 |
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11102.41 |
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11104.41 |
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這個防範未來於先嘛 |
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11104.41 |
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11106.41 |
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就是說你現在也知道他有問題了 |
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11106.41 |
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11108.41 |
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那你採取什麼樣的手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].start |
11108.41 |
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11109.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].text |
讓他這個問題不要發生 |
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11109.41 |
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11111.41 |
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這才是我們現在要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].start |
11111.41 |
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11112.41 |
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所以我們現在對寄居線的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].start |
11112.41 |
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11114.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].text |
這些轉型處理的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].start |
11114.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].end |
11116.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].text |
一旦我們發現造基 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].start |
11116.41 |
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11118.41 |
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假設他真的不穩定了 |
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11118.41 |
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11121.41 |
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我們就開始啟動造基的專案的轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].start |
11121.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].end |
11123.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].text |
他們這些案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].start |
11123.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].end |
11125.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].text |
我們跟六都地方政府就來啟動嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].start |
11125.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].end |
11127.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].text |
讓這些反東反客的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].start |
11127.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].end |
11129.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].text |
仍然不能受損 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].start |
11129.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].end |
11131.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].text |
那現在我們也對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].start |
11131.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].end |
11132.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].text |
我唸一唸說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].start |
11132.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].end |
11135.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].text |
能不能防範造基成為下一個機械 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].start |
11135.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].end |
11137.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].text |
這不是比較有用嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].start |
11137.41 |
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11139.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].text |
如果就像寄居線這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].start |
11139.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].end |
11141.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].text |
就倒人然後兩手一抬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].start |
11141.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].end |
11142.41 |
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就要政府來擦屁股 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].start |
11143.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].end |
11145.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].text |
補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].start |
11145.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].end |
11147.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].text |
委員我來這樣回應好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].start |
11147.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].end |
11149.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].text |
造基也好 寄居線也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].start |
11149.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].end |
11150.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].text |
他們的負責人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].start |
11150.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].end |
11152.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].text |
因為金流自己出了狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].start |
11152.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].end |
11154.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].text |
該抓去關就抓去關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].start |
11154.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].end |
11156.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].text |
我們完全尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].start |
11156.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].end |
11158.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].text |
但是因為他是設宅的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].start |
11158.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].end |
11160.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].text |
這個包租代管的公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].start |
11160.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].end |
11162.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].text |
所以站在內政部的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].start |
11162.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].end |
11164.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].text |
我們會要確保 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].start |
11164.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].end |
11166.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].text |
房東跟房客的權益沒有受改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].start |
11166.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].end |
11169.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].text |
也就是說房客繼續住在原地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].start |
11169.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].end |
11171.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].text |
房東還是繼續收房租 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].start |
11171.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].end |
11173.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].text |
所以說應該有的服務還是要照常 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].start |
11173.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].end |
11176.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].text |
所以這些我們都有跟寄居線 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].start |
11176.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].end |
11180.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].text |
還有造基裡面相關的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].start |
11180.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].end |
11182.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].text |
做好比較好的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].start |
11182.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].end |
11185.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].text |
更何況您所擔心的造基的部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].start |
11185.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].end |
11189.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].text |
地方政府跟中央政府剛好一個人一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].start |
11189.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].end |
11191.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].text |
一個是七千多戶一個是八千多戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].start |
11191.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].end |
11193.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].text |
所以我剛有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].start |
11193.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].end |
11195.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].text |
我非常謝謝縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].start |
11195.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].end |
11196.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].text |
願意跟我們站在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].start |
11196.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].end |
11199.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].text |
就是確保房東房客的權益不受改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].start |
11199.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].end |
11203.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].text |
所以這是屬於公共服務上面的不打折 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].start |
11203.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].end |
11204.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].text |
這我們做得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].start |
11204.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].end |
11207.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].text |
但是如果造基公司跟寄居線公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].start |
11207.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].end |
11209.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].text |
他們自己違反了公司法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].start |
11209.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].end |
11212.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].text |
或是金融銀行業的管理條例的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].start |
11212.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].end |
11218.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].text |
他們就應該去接受司法檢查跟偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].start |
11218.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].end |
11220.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].text |
這是我們都完全尊重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].start |
11220.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].end |
11224.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].text |
所以我們把它做比較好的分庭處理的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].start |
11224.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].end |
11226.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].text |
在過去三四天以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].start |
11226.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].end |
11228.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].text |
我們都是按照這樣的方向在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].start |
11228.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].end |
11229.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].text |
沒有改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].start |
11229.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].end |
11231.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].text |
您擔心的就是說萬一造基也倒了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].start |
11231.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].end |
11233.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].text |
造基倒是怎麼一回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].start |
11233.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].end |
11237.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].text |
第一個下面公司的人不願意跟大家一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].start |
11237.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].end |
11241.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].text |
把造基所服務的這些一萬五千多個服務對象一起服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].start |
11241.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].end |
11244.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].text |
但是就我們所了解他們仍然願意服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4053].end |
11246.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].text |
既然他們願意服務的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].start |
11246.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].end |
11248.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].text |
不管他們的新的經營團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].start |
11248.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].end |
11251.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].text |
他第一個要去回答銀行團隊他們的質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].start |
11251.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].end |
11255.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].text |
他要去回答他們金流是否有失控的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].start |
11255.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].end |
11260.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].text |
但是他們的經營團隊要跟我們內政部跟住住中心保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].start |
11260.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].end |
11264.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].text |
你下面的客戶不管是房東的客戶或房客的客戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].start |
11264.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].end |
11267.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].text |
他的權益不受打折跟受改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].start |
11267.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].end |
11270.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].text |
目前為止我們知道是沒有這方面的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].start |
11270.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].end |
11272.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].text |
那我剛也跟委員回答到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].start |
11272.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].end |
11274.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].text |
如果他確實有問題的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].start |
11274.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].end |
11278.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].text |
我們第四期應該撥付給他的款項我們就會中止 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].start |
11278.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].end |
11280.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].text |
主席我再問最後一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].start |
11280.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].end |
11282.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].text |
現在住住中心裡面認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].start |
11282.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].end |
11286.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].text |
未來單一業者承作比例要去檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].start |
11286.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].end |
11290.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].text |
就是說是不是我們對於這個單一業者他的承作的上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].start |
11290.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].end |
11293.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].text |
還有他關係企業能夠合併計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].start |
11293.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].end |
11296.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].text |
不然讓公司拆成這個不同的法案之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].start |
11296.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].end |
11298.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].text |
然後規避集中管理這方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].start |
11298.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].end |
11302.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].text |
這部分我會跟內政部國土署跟地政司還有工會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].start |
11302.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].end |
11306.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].text |
大家再來協商怎麼樣的操作會是比較穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].start |
11306.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].end |
11310.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].text |
一方面也能夠激勵業者努力的推案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].start |
11310.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].end |
11313.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].text |
一方面又能夠確保產業的穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4075].end |
11316.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].text |
這部分我們再討論之後再來跟委員做說明好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].start |
11316.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].end |
11320.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].text |
好啊 那你們像這個造金或是說寄居蟹 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].start |
11320.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].end |
11324.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].text |
你們過去有沒有去查他們的財務的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].start |
11325.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].end |
11328.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].text |
我們沒有權利去查他公司的財務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].start |
11328.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].end |
11329.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].text |
我們都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].start |
11330.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].end |
11332.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].text |
針對他們業務的推動狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].start |
11332.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].end |
11336.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].text |
支付房東該付的房租有沒有付 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].start |
11336.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].end |
11339.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].text |
該付給房客的一些修繕補助費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].start |
11339.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].end |
11341.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].text |
我們當然這個都有完全的掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].start |
11341.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].end |
11342.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].text |
這個都沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].start |
11342.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].end |
11346.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].text |
那所以像這個造金跟寄居蟹他們類似這個吸金的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].start |
11346.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].end |
11348.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].text |
你們是哪時候才知道的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].start |
11349.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].end |
11353.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].text |
其實當然發公司在約略當然有聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].start |
11353.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].end |
11354.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].text |
大家外面有在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].start |
11354.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].end |
11355.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].start |
11356.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].end |
11359.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].text |
問題是如此的複雜這個我們完全意料之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].start |
11359.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].end |
11361.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].text |
這個也要注意喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].start |
11361.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].end |
11363.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].text |
這個就是說當然不是只有內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].start |
11363.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].end |
11367.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].text |
我想可能連財政部金管會都要一起來協助啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].start |
11367.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].end |
11370.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].text |
把這個東西當作一個教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].start |
11370.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].end |
11372.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].text |
如何防範說未來有這種公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].start |
11372.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].end |
11374.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].text |
因為他就是說反正我跟房東都很熟我都有名單啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].start |
11374.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].end |
11377.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].text |
然後就是類似這種讓高利息然後吸引大家進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].start |
11377.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].end |
11379.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].text |
那結果他就跑掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].start |
11379.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].end |
11380.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].text |
這是類似一個吸金的一個情況嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].start |
11380.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].end |
11382.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].text |
我覺得這個案例要去避免 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].start |
11382.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].end |
11385.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].text |
那如何跟我剛才講的相關的部會去做合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].start |
11385.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].end |
11387.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].text |
你可能沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].start |
11387.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].end |
11390.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].text |
你內政部沒辦法去查他內部的這個財務的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].start |
11390.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].end |
11391.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].text |
但是其他部會可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].start |
11392.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].end |
11393.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].start |
11394.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].end |
11396.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].start |
11395.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].end |
11396.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].text |
部長最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].start |
11396.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].end |
11398.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].text |
委員這個我們這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].start |
11398.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].end |
11402.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].text |
在跟各地縣市政府在這個開會的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].start |
11402.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].end |
11404.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].text |
也有請這個經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].start |
11404.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].end |
11406.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].text |
還有請那個金管會來練習 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].start |
11406.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].end |
11408.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].text |
告訴那個縣市地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].start |
11408.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].end |
11410.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].text |
我們應該有的權益保障在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].start |
11410.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].end |
11412.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].text |
所以他們大概都了解這個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].start |
11412.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].end |
11413.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].start |
11413.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].end |
11415.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].text |
謝謝部長 董事長 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].start |
11419.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].end |
11421.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].text |
我們下一位請徐欣瑩委員發言諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].start |
11429.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].end |
11431.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].start |
11431.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].end |
11432.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].text |
本席有請劉部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].start |
11436.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].end |
11438.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].text |
好 部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].start |
11438.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].end |
11441.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].text |
這個我們今天主要跟您討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].start |
11441.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].end |
11443.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].text |
清安3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].start |
11443.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].end |
11445.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].text |
那談清安3.0之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].start |
11445.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].end |
11447.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].text |
本席想請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].start |
11447.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].end |
11449.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].text |
清安2.0的借款人當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].start |
11449.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].end |
11451.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].text |
您這邊有沒有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].start |
11451.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].end |
11453.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].text |
首次購屋的有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].start |
11453.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].end |
11458.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].text |
報告 清安的主政單位是以財政部為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].start |
11458.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].end |
11460.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].text |
所以我們是不是可以請財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].start |
11460.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].end |
11462.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].text |
他們有代表在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].start |
11462.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].end |
11464.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].text |
跟我們做一下報告好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].start |
11464.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].end |
11465.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].start |
11465.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].end |
11466.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].text |
有沒有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].start |
11468.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].end |
11470.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].text |
是 跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].start |
11470.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].end |
11473.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].text |
那因為清安2.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].start |
11473.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].end |
11475.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].text |
它的這個對象就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].start |
11475.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].end |
11478.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].text |
必須是成年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].start |
11478.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].end |
11481.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].text |
本人跟子女沒有自有住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].start |
11481.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].end |
11482.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].text |
沒有沒有 我的問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].start |
11482.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].end |
11484.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].text |
反正你有沒有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].start |
11484.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].end |
11487.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].text |
在你清安2.0借款人當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].start |
11487.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].end |
11490.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].text |
首次購屋的人有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].start |
11490.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].end |
11493.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].text |
過去曾經持有住宅的有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].start |
11493.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].end |
11494.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].text |
你們有沒有統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].start |
11495.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].end |
11498.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].text |
那個部分就是他在申請的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].start |
11498.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].end |
11500.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].text |
必須是名下沒有房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].start |
11500.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].end |
11502.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].text |
他才有資格申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].start |
11502.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].end |
11503.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].text |
那但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].start |
11503.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].end |
11504.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].text |
不不不 我在問你有沒有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].start |
11504.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].end |
11506.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].text |
有多少人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].start |
11506.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].end |
11508.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].text |
因為清安2.0我們有要求他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].start |
11508.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].end |
11510.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].text |
就是說要現代一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].start |
11510.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].end |
11512.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].text |
但是他在之前的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].start |
11512.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].end |
11514.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].text |
我們並沒有那樣的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].start |
11514.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].end |
11516.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].text |
所以這邊顯示出什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].start |
11516.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].end |
11518.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].text |
顯示出部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].start |
11518.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].end |
11520.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].text |
我為什麼剛剛請教你呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].start |
11521.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].end |
11523.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].text |
因為這個整個的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].start |
11523.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].end |
11525.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].text |
是不是我們這住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].start |
11525.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].end |
11527.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].text |
是住宅基金這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].start |
11527.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].end |
11529.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].text |
出錢嘛 是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].start |
11529.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].end |
11531.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].text |
所有的清安2.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].start |
11531.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].end |
11533.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].text |
報告我們是做利息補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].start |
11533.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].end |
11534.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].text |
不是我們出錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].start |
11534.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].end |
11535.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].start |
11535.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].end |
11537.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].text |
因為那個額度差 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].start |
11539.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].end |
11541.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].text |
因為這個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].start |
11541.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].end |
11543.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].text |
政府的補貼就是利息補貼嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].start |
11543.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].end |
11545.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].text |
那利息補貼是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].start |
11545.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].end |
11547.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].text |
住宅基金出錢 部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].start |
11549.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].end |
11550.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].start |
11551.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].end |
11552.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].start |
11552.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].end |
11554.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].text |
部長 本席要表達的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].start |
11554.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].end |
11555.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].text |
是住宅基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].start |
11555.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].end |
11557.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].text |
住宅基金出錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].start |
11557.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].end |
11560.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].text |
那財政部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].start |
11560.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].end |
11562.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].text |
銀行這裡在申辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].start |
11562.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].end |
11566.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].text |
兩個單位都沒有在掌握這個費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].start |
11566.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].end |
11568.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].text |
然後這個情況也沒有了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].start |
11568.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].end |
11569.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].text |
一問三不知 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].start |
11569.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].end |
11570.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].text |
那我的時間沒那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].start |
11570.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].end |
11573.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].text |
我接著要請教這個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].start |
11573.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].end |
11574.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].text |
我接著要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].start |
11575.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].end |
11577.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].text |
內政部報告宣稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].start |
11577.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].end |
11579.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].text |
清安3.0有住 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].start |
11579.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].end |
11581.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].text |
減輕居住負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].start |
11582.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].end |
11583.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].start |
11583.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].end |
11585.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].text |
你們這句話指的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].start |
11585.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].end |
11586.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].start |
11586.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].end |
11588.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].text |
你的減輕居住負擔是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].start |
11588.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].end |
11591.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].text |
你降低了頭期款的門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].start |
11591.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].end |
11595.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].text |
還是你降低了前幾年的月付金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].start |
11595.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].end |
11599.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].text |
還是你降低了40年的總住宅支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].start |
11599.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].end |
11600.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].text |
是哪一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].start |
11600.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].end |
11602.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].text |
你降低了什麼有助於減輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].start |
11602.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].end |
11603.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].text |
原住民的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].start |
11603.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].end |
11604.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].start |
11604.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].end |
11605.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].text |
這個就是財政部退出的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].start |
11605.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].end |
11606.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].text |
您是不是以財政部為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].start |
11606.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].end |
11608.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].text |
因為我想在質詢台上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].start |
11608.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].end |
11609.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].text |
我們沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].start |
11609.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].end |
11610.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].text |
過國一的代替回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].start |
11610.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].end |
11611.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].text |
我現在問的是你們的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].start |
11611.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].end |
11613.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].text |
內政部報告寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].start |
11613.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].end |
11615.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].text |
我們認為有助於減輕的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].start |
11615.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].end |
11616.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].text |
所以我就問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].start |
11616.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].end |
11618.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].text |
你認為有助於是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].start |
11618.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].end |
11619.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].text |
還是要以財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].start |
11619.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].end |
11620.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].text |
所推出的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].start |
11620.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].end |
11622.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].text |
比較正確的這個方案為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].start |
11622.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].end |
11623.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].start |
11623.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].end |
11624.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].text |
那我就是問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].start |
11624.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].end |
11625.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].text |
因為你剛說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].start |
11625.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].end |
11627.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].text |
你們認為有助於減輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].start |
11627.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].end |
11629.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].text |
那有助於減輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].start |
11629.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].end |
11631.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].text |
那你到底你這句話指的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].start |
11631.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
11633.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
減輕哪一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].start |
11634.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
11635.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].start |
11635.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
11636.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].start |
11636.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
11637.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
我們這邊的話減輕負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].start |
11637.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
11639.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
應該是在購屋的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].start |
11639.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
11640.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
初期的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].start |
11640.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
11642.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
對 初期繳得少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].start |
11642.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
11643.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
可以利息的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].start |
11643.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
11644.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
但是好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].start |
11644.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].end |
11646.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
本席就要帶出這個概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].start |
11646.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
11647.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
你初期繳得少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].start |
11647.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
11650.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
不代表你長期負擔低 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].start |
11650.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].end |
11653.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
你寬限期你是把本金延後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].start |
11653.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].end |
11655.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].text |
不是把本金免除 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].start |
11655.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].end |
11657.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].text |
所以本席在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].start |
11657.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].end |
11659.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].text |
是特別要提出來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].start |
11659.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].end |
11662.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].text |
我們的政府如果告訴我們年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].start |
11662.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].end |
11663.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
現在繳得少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].start |
11663.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].end |
11665.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].text |
但是也要請你要告訴他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].start |
11665.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].end |
11668.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].text |
五年後你每個月要繳多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].start |
11668.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].end |
11671.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].text |
才是完整的政策揭露 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].start |
11671.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].end |
11673.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].text |
所以本席接著要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].start |
11673.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
11675.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
內政部有沒有完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].start |
11675.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
11678.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
我看了這個清安3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].start |
11678.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].end |
11679.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].text |
你的一千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].start |
11679.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
11680.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
一千兩百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].start |
11680.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].end |
11682.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
一千五百萬的貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].start |
11682.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
11684.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
你在寬限期借滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].start |
11684.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].end |
11686.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
補貼退場以及利率 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].start |
11686.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
11689.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
上升一至二個百分點的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].start |
11689.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
11691.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
月付金的試算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
11691.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].end |
11693.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
月付金的試算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
11693.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].end |
11695.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
有沒有告訴年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
11696.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
11698.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
是 哥國源報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
11698.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
11700.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
在清安的聲帶的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
11700.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
11703.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].text |
其實公穩銀行都會提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
11703.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].end |
11705.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].text |
就是他的試算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
11705.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].end |
11708.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
就是會讓申請的人知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
11708.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
11709.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
他的負擔的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
11709.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
11710.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
試算是全期 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
11710.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
11713.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
他貸款的總期數的試算都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
11713.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
11714.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
清楚知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
11714.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
11716.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
在寬限期的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].start |
11716.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
11717.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
他每個月要繳多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].start |
11717.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
11719.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
到寬限期期滿之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
11719.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].end |
11721.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
他每個月要繳多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
11721.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
11722.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
因為其實購物貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
11722.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
11724.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
是一個比較長期的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
11724.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
11725.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
一個財務規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].start |
11725.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
11727.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
所以其實銀行都會提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
11727.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
11729.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
這樣子的試算服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].start |
11729.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
11730.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
讓民眾很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
11730.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
11733.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
去做自己合理的財務負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
11733.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
11737.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
所以我們要特別也強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
11737.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
11739.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
內政部出資補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
11739.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
11741.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
也是住宅政策的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
11741.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
11743.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
所以絕對有責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
11743.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
11746.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
要建立這種全國一致性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
11746.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
11748.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
風險揭露標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
11748.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
11750.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
接著本席要提的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
11750.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
11753.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
我們都想照顧年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].start |
11753.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
11755.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
特別是育兒家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
11755.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
11761.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
我們有沒有進行現金流的壓力測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
11761.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
11764.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
不管是我們的政策主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
11764.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
11766.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
內政部包含出錢的機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
11766.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
11770.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
或者是內政部一直推給財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
11770.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
11772.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
財政部或是銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
11772.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
11774.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
因為育兒的家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
11774.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
11776.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
它不只有房貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
11776.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
11778.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
它還有托育、教育、醫療 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].start |
11778.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
11779.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
各種支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
11779.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
11782.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
所以我們是不是可以請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
11782.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
11784.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
部長可不可以承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
11784.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
11787.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
三個月內會同財政部金管會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
11787.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
11789.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
制定一個清安貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
11789.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
11792.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
一夜市的風險揭露書 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
11794.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
11796.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
這個揭露書要清楚的揭露 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
11796.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
11799.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
寬限期前後的月付金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
11799.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
11800.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
剛剛您說有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
11800.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
11804.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
補貼退場後的月付金好像也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
11804.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
11808.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
升息的壓力以及40年的總利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
11808.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
11813.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
還有育嬰留庭與所得下降的各種情境 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].start |
11814.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
11815.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
11814.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
11816.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
這個部分部長可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
11817.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
11818.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
由內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
11818.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
11820.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
因為政策主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
11820.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
11822.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
這個跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
11822.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
11825.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
因為整個清安的政策是財政部的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
11825.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
11828.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
只是在經費利息補貼的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
11828.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
11829.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
對嘛 你們出錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
11829.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
11833.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
所以裡面則由我們住宅基金這邊來出這個帳 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
11833.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
11838.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
好 那不然財政部今天的出席我看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
11838.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
11841.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
我是國庫署副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
11841.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
11844.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
那你們可不可以提出這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
11845.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
11847.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
風險的揭露書 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
11847.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
11851.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
還有家庭的現金流的壓力測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
11851.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
11853.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
那提供給我們內政委員會 可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
11853.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
11855.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
是 跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
11855.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
11858.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
其實在民眾在申請清安的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
11858.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
11862.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
其實銀行也都會實時的去輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
11862.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
11865.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
然後因為他在申請案件的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].start |
11865.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
11868.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
其實必須要去看他的收支筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
11868.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
11870.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
所以這個部分其實銀行會輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
11870.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
11872.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
我們立法院希望可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
11872.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
11876.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
財政部提供給我們的這個風險揭露書 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
11876.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
11880.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
還有家庭現金流壓力測試可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
11880.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
11881.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
三個月內給我們嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
11881.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
11883.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
是 我們可能就回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
11883.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
11886.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
會去做一個相關的試算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
11886.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
11888.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
至於委員你說這個家庭現金流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
11888.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
11890.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
這個部分可能這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].start |
11890.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
11892.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].text |
財政部是沒有這方面的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
11892.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].end |
11894.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].text |
但是如果就清安的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].start |
11894.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].end |
11896.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].text |
個年的這個金額的試算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].start |
11896.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].end |
11898.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].text |
我們是可以做報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].start |
11898.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].end |
11899.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].text |
好 那你們提供過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].start |
11899.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].end |
11904.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].text |
但是你們身為這種主要政策的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].start |
11904.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].end |
11907.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].text |
照道理要替我們的民眾做嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].start |
11907.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].end |
11909.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].text |
等於我們要求的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].start |
11909.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].end |
11911.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].text |
你就是應該要能夠揭露 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].start |
11911.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].end |
11913.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].text |
讓我們的民眾知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].start |
11913.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].end |
11915.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].text |
所以我還是要請你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].start |
11915.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].end |
11917.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
可以三個月內提供給我們內政委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].start |
11917.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].end |
11919.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].text |
我們可以提供一個書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].start |
11919.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].end |
11922.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].text |
但是其實現行銀行端都有在做這方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
11922.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].end |
11925.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].text |
那你們會診看狀況提供給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
11925.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].end |
11926.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].text |
是 我們提供一個書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].start |
11926.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].end |
11927.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].start |
11927.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].end |
11929.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].text |
好 OK 那接著部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
11929.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].end |
11931.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].text |
劉部長我還是要請教您 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
11931.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].end |
11934.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].text |
我們住宅基金既然出錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
11934.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].end |
11936.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
內政部你出錢嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].start |
11936.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].end |
11938.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
你也不能迴避責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
11938.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].end |
11940.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
所以住宅基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
11940.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
11943.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].text |
在你們在內政部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
11943.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].end |
11945.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
轄下所管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
11945.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
11948.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].text |
所以到底住宅基金要負擔多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
11949.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].end |
11950.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
11950.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
11953.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
我想內政部應該有試算吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
11954.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
11956.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
那住宅基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
11956.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
11959.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].text |
確實負擔了一些利息補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
11959.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].end |
11963.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].text |
但是我們出錢就要做成本效益評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
11963.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].end |
11964.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
11965.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].end |
11968.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
本席希望內政部向國會來交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
11969.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].end |
11973.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
這個住宅基金針對清安2.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
11973.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].end |
11976.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
現在要進入3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
11976.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].end |
11978.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].text |
預估聲帶多少戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].start |
11978.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].end |
11979.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].text |
因為你要出錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].start |
11979.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].end |
11981.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].text |
你不能說我這個錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
11981.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].end |
11983.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
國家的錢他說什麼就去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
11983.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].end |
11986.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].text |
你要掌握預估聲帶多少戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
11986.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].end |
11988.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
你每年要補貼多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
11988.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
11991.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].text |
你未來承諾支出多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
11991.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].end |
11993.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
那在不同的聲帶量 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
11993.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].end |
11995.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
還有利率變動下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
11995.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].end |
11997.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
我們的基金能否承受 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
11997.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].end |
11999.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].text |
那更重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
11999.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].end |
12002.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].text |
我們清安3.0的基金壓力測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].start |
12002.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
12005.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
不管內政部會同財政部也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].start |
12005.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
12008.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
這一塊我們立法院就是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
12008.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
12010.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
替民眾把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
12010.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
12013.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
你這個住宅基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
12013.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
12015.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
你的整個的壓力測試有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
12017.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
12019.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
先跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
12019.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].end |
12021.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].text |
我是在問部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
12021.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
12022.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
12022.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
12023.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
12023.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].end |
12025.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].text |
我們必須要有新清安 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
12025.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].end |
12027.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].text |
他們推估出來多少戶數 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
12027.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
12029.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].text |
我們才能就利息補貼的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
12029.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
12031.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
去推估出來所需要的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
12031.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
12034.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
你們要主動去跟財政不了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
12034.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
12036.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
當我問到您的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
12036.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
12039.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
這個政策8月1號都推出了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
12039.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
12041.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
你們就應該要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
12041.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
12043.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
不是說反正國家的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
12043.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
12044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
不是我的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
12044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
12045.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
我不相信你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
12045.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
12047.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
如果自己的錢你要出去的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
12047.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
12049.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
你都不用了解嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
12049.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
12050.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
12050.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
12051.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
我們當然不是這樣方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
12051.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
12052.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
如果委員一定要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
12052.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
12053.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
因為您剛有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
12053.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
12055.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
財政部要推估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
12055.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
12057.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
我們必須要代管的戶數是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
12057.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
12059.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
我說這個戶數要有財政部來提供 |
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12059.04 |
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今天已經8月幾號 |
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12062.04 |
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12063.04 |
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你8月1號就推出 |
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12063.04 |
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12064.04 |
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那是 |
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12064.04 |
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12066.04 |
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你們也都沒有去了解 |
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12066.04 |
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12068.04 |
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身貸多少預估的 |
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12068.04 |
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12070.04 |
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那每年你們要補貼多少 |
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12070.04 |
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12072.04 |
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你們沒有任何的預估嗎 |
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12072.04 |
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12073.04 |
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跟委員報告一下 |
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12073.04 |
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12075.04 |
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那個財政部在研擬整個 |
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12075.04 |
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12077.04 |
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一個清安3.0的方案 |
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12077.04 |
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12079.04 |
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需要補貼多少錢 |
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12079.04 |
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12081.04 |
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然後住宅基金要補貼多少錢 |
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12081.04 |
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12082.04 |
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他們都有推估 |
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12082.04 |
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12084.04 |
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那整個數據的話包含戶數 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
12084.04 |
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12085.04 |
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你們也都有掌握 |
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12085.04 |
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12087.04 |
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財政部都有推估出來 |
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12087.04 |
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12088.04 |
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然後有告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
12088.04 |
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12090.04 |
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好 那我現在請教部長跟司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
12090.04 |
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12092.04 |
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那你住宅基金 |
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12092.04 |
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12095.04 |
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整個你除了清安3.0之外 |
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12095.04 |
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12097.04 |
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你還要支應社會住宅租金補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
12097.04 |
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12098.04 |
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包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
12098.04 |
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12100.04 |
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弱勢住宅協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
12100.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
12101.04 |
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修繕補助等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
12101.04 |
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12102.04 |
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那請問 |
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12103.69 |
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12105.69 |
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你這整個的 |
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12107.02 |
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12109.02 |
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就這麼多的各種支出 |
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12109.02 |
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12111.02 |
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我們的清安3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
12111.02 |
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12113.02 |
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你們說你們有掌握知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].start |
12113.02 |
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12115.02 |
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那會不會排擠到其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
12115.02 |
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12117.02 |
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租金補貼各方面 |
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12117.02 |
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12118.02 |
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有沒有掌握這一塊 |
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12118.02 |
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12120.02 |
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報告委員 目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].start |
12120.02 |
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12122.02 |
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如果說我們在額度上面的運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].start |
12122.02 |
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12123.02 |
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出現困擾的話 |
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12123.02 |
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12125.02 |
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那我們就會報到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].start |
12125.02 |
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12127.02 |
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你不能等到出現困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
12127.02 |
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12128.02 |
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我現在要問的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].start |
12128.02 |
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12130.02 |
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我要實施之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
12130.02 |
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12131.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].text |
你有沒有掌握嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
12131.02 |
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12132.02 |
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會不會排擠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].start |
12132.02 |
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12133.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].text |
你有沒有得不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].start |
12133.02 |
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12135.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].text |
都依實際上的滾動式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].start |
12135.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
12137.02 |
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我們會請國庫來撥補 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
12137.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
12138.02 |
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所以你們都沒有預估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].start |
12138.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].end |
12140.02 |
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不是一定有預估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].start |
12140.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].end |
12142.02 |
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但是預估的成果跟最後的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].start |
12142.02 |
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12144.02 |
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我要了解你預估的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
12144.02 |
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12145.02 |
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就沒有排擠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
12145.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
12147.02 |
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所以你不夠的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
12147.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
12149.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
是我們提到這個國庫來撥補 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
12149.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
12151.02 |
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好 所以目前的預估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
12151.02 |
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12152.02 |
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是不會排擠到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
12152.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
12153.02 |
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您的答案 |
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12153.02 |
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12155.02 |
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剛剛有說不會排擠 |
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12155.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
12157.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
沒有 就不會排擠 |
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12157.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
12158.02 |
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好 那沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
12158.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
12161.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
那本席希望內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
12161.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
12163.02 |
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是不是可以向我們立法院提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
12163.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
12166.02 |
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六年期的住宅基金收支評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
12167.55 |
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12169.55 |
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具體說明清安的補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
12169.55 |
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12171.55 |
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那你說不會排擠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
12171.55 |
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12172.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
那我們就看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
12172.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
12175.55 |
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你是否會排擠到其他住宅政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
12175.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
12176.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
報告委員您講的六年期 |
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12176.55 |
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12179.55 |
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是從115年的8月1號開始 |
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12179.55 |
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12180.55 |
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對 你預估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
12180.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
12181.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
那我可以跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
12181.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
12183.55 |
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就是我們已跟財政部 |
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12183.55 |
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12184.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
一起來推估的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
12184.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
12186.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
我們六年的期算 |
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12186.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
12188.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].text |
所要補助清安貸款的3.0 |
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12188.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].end |
12191.55 |
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大概是272.71億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
12192.18 |
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12193.18 |
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200多億而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
12195.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
12196.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
我們是律習補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
12196.09 |
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12197.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].text |
我們都是全合 |
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12197.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].end |
12198.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
我知道 我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
12198.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
12199.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
不只是清安 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
12199.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
12202.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
我是住宅基金的收支 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
12202.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].end |
12203.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].text |
你住宅基金裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].start |
12203.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].end |
12204.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].text |
你還有社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].start |
12204.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].end |
12205.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].text |
我現在就擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].start |
12205.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].end |
12208.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].text |
我要你給的是整體住宅基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].start |
12208.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].end |
12209.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].text |
住宅基金裡面 |
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12209.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].end |
12210.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].text |
那因為我們還有住金補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].start |
12210.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].end |
12211.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].text |
你看我們剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].start |
12211.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].end |
12214.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].text |
各個委員都質詢各方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].start |
12214.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].end |
12217.09 |
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所以我們是從清安來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].start |
12217.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].end |
12220.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].text |
你整個住宅基金你的收支評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].start |
12220.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].end |
12223.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].text |
我們希望從今年的第四季開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].start |
12223.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].end |
12224.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].text |
你按季公開 |
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12224.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].end |
12227.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].text |
清安補貼實際支出 |
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12227.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].end |
12229.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].text |
還有承諾未來支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
12229.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].end |
12233.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].text |
包括我們其他方面的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].start |
12233.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].end |
12236.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].text |
是否排擠整個的影響評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].start |
12236.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].end |
12238.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
按季公開可以嗎 |
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12238.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
12239.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].start |
12239.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].end |
12241.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].text |
我們來了解一下按季公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
12241.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].end |
12243.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
是指公開住宅基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
12243.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
12246.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
按季公開我們花了多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
12246.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].end |
12248.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].text |
那我們不夠多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
12248.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].end |
12251.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].text |
有沒有造成這個所謂的排擠效應 |
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12251.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].end |
12252.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].text |
但是目前為止 |
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12252.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].end |
12254.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].text |
我們已經跟委員講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
12254.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].end |
12256.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].text |
就是說行政院他們同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
12256.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].end |
12258.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].text |
如果我們住宅基金不夠的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].start |
12258.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].end |
12259.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].text |
會由國庫來撥補 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
12259.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].end |
12261.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].text |
所以我們按季公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
12261.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].end |
12262.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].text |
是要公開哪些項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].start |
12262.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].end |
12263.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].text |
讓我們來回去檢討一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
12263.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].end |
12264.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
再跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
12264.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].end |
12266.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
哪些項目 對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
12266.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].end |
12268.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
就是你的清安 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
12268.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
12271.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
清安現在是3.0嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].start |
12271.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].end |
12273.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].text |
然後再來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].start |
12273.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].end |
12274.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].text |
我們的社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].start |
12274.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].end |
12276.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].text |
租金補貼包租貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].start |
12276.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].end |
12278.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].text |
若是住宅協助還修繕補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].start |
12278.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].end |
12281.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].text |
你的這個住宅基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].start |
12283.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].end |
12285.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].text |
對 你的住宅基金整個的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].start |
12287.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].end |
12289.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].text |
這個花費我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].start |
12289.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].end |
12291.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].text |
身為立法院我們應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].start |
12291.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].end |
12293.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].text |
要來監督來了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].start |
12293.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].end |
12297.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].text |
那部長就請你們按季公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].start |
12297.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].end |
12299.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].text |
按季公開在我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].start |
12299.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].end |
12301.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].text |
委員我們回去檢討一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].start |
12301.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].end |
12302.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].text |
檢討對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].start |
12302.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].end |
12304.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].text |
就是希望你們能夠掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].start |
12304.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].end |
12308.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].text |
不要我們疑問都好像沒有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].start |
12308.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].end |
12309.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].text |
我們不是沒有掌握 |
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12309.5 |
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12310.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].text |
我是一直跟委員講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].start |
12310.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].end |
12313.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].text |
我們部會跟部會之間的充分合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].start |
12313.5 |
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12315.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].text |
那有些不是由我們自己嘴巴裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].start |
12315.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].end |
12316.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].text |
講出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].start |
12316.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].end |
12318.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].text |
是我們內政部負責處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].start |
12318.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].end |
12321.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].text |
就是合作不代表你不用知道 |
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12321.5 |
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12322.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].text |
對 |
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12322.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].end |
12324.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].text |
合作不代表你不用知道 |
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12324.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].end |
12325.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].text |
我們問到你的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].start |
12325.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].end |
12327.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].text |
你有掌握你也答得出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].start |
12327.5 |
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12328.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].text |
你也清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].start |
12328.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].end |
12329.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].start |
12329.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].end |
12331.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].text |
那最後本席結論就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].start |
12331.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].end |
12334.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].text |
我們成功的住宅政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].start |
12334.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].end |
12336.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].text |
當然補貼貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].start |
12336.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].end |
12338.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].text |
我們也非常的認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].start |
12338.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].end |
12340.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].text |
租金補貼各方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].start |
12340.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].end |
12341.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].text |
但是最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].start |
12341.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].end |
12344.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].text |
我們不能只有幫忙貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].start |
12345.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].end |
12347.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].text |
我們還要有合理的房價 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].start |
12347.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].end |
12350.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].text |
所以我們希望能夠拿出政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].start |
12350.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].end |
12351.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].text |
那對於年輕人的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].start |
12351.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].end |
12353.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].text |
也不是只有貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].start |
12353.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].end |
12356.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].text |
他生活各方面的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].start |
12356.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].end |
12358.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].text |
托育教育醫療各方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].start |
12358.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].end |
12362.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].text |
還有生活品質的這個整個的設想 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].start |
12362.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].end |
12364.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].text |
我想這個才是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].start |
12365.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].end |
12367.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].text |
民眾或者是我們的青年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].start |
12367.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].end |
12369.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].text |
大家所需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].start |
12369.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].end |
12370.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].start |
12370.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].end |
12371.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].text |
本席就到這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].start |
12371.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].end |
12372.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].start |
12377.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].end |
12379.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].text |
我們下一位請陳慶龍總召 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].start |
12390.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].end |
12392.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].start |
12392.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].end |
12395.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].text |
那我請住都中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].start |
12395.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].end |
12397.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].text |
我們華總司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].start |
12401.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].end |
12402.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].text |
陳鵬宇好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].start |
12402.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].end |
12403.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].text |
總司長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].start |
12404.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].end |
12406.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].text |
那我們台灣民眾黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].start |
12406.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].end |
12408.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].text |
有召開記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].start |
12408.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].end |
12412.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].text |
針對我們住都中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].start |
12412.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].end |
12415.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].text |
跟召集五館的這樣的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].start |
12415.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].end |
12416.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].text |
我們開了記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].start |
12416.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].end |
12419.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].text |
我想總司長您也了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].start |
12419.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].end |
12421.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].text |
在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].start |
12422.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].end |
12424.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].text |
我們也對董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].start |
12424.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].end |
12427.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].text |
跟召集公司李俊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].start |
12427.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].end |
12431.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].text |
李先生的一個關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].start |
12431.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].end |
12432.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].text |
這個交情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].start |
12432.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].end |
12436.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].text |
我們也做了一些了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].start |
12436.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].end |
12438.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].text |
那我今天用一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].start |
12438.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].end |
12441.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].text |
讓董事長你來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].start |
12442.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].end |
12445.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].text |
說明一下你跟召集五館 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].start |
12445.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].end |
12447.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].text |
李俊成跟董事長的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].start |
12447.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].end |
12448.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].start |
12448.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].end |
12449.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].start |
12449.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].end |
12450.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].text |
你自己說吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].start |
12450.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].end |
12451.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].start |
12453.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].end |
12454.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].text |
你不需要問我嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].start |
12454.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].end |
12455.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].text |
沒有 我要你自己講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].start |
12455.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].end |
12456.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].text |
我幹嘛問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].start |
12456.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].end |
12457.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].text |
我這樣再問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].start |
12457.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].end |
12461.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].text |
我剛剛其實也跟委員說過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].start |
12461.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].end |
12462.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].text |
我認識李俊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].start |
12462.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].end |
12464.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].text |
當然是從四合宅包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].start |
12464.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].end |
12465.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].text |
這些案這個工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].start |
12465.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].end |
12467.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].text |
開始啟動之後認識的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].start |
12467.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].end |
12469.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].text |
那同時在這過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].start |
12469.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].end |
12472.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].text |
我們也跟執行業的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].start |
12472.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].end |
12473.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].text |
四合包租代管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].start |
12473.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].end |
12474.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].text |
各個業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].start |
12474.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].end |
12476.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].text |
各縣市公會理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].start |
12476.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].end |
12478.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].text |
其實都是維持一貫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].start |
12478.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].end |
12481.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].text |
大家的交流的一個模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].start |
12481.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].end |
12482.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].text |
業務的交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].start |
12482.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].end |
12483.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].text |
業務的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].start |
12483.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].end |
12484.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].text |
業務的交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].start |
12484.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].end |
12485.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].text |
這跟我們這了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].start |
12485.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].end |
12486.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].text |
很正常 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].start |
12486.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].end |
12487.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].text |
私交怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].start |
12487.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].end |
12488.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].text |
交情怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].start |
12488.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].end |
12490.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].text |
其實你說私交 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].start |
12490.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].end |
12492.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].text |
我跟這些理事長你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].start |
12492.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].end |
12493.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].text |
這個業務交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].start |
12493.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].end |
12496.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].text |
因為大家真的都很同心協力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].start |
12496.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].end |
12497.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].text |
要把這些事情都解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].start |
12497.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].end |
12498.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].text |
了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].start |
12498.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].end |
12499.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].text |
所以說大家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].start |
12499.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].end |
12500.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].text |
所謂的業務交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].start |
12500.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].end |
12502.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].text |
其實不一定是對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].start |
12506.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].end |
12507.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].start |
12507.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].end |
12509.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].text |
所以接觸交流互動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].start |
12509.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].end |
12511.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].text |
我覺得這是必要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].start |
12511.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].end |
12513.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].text |
因為我們的政策要取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].start |
12513.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].end |
12514.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].text |
我是要問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].start |
12514.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].end |
12516.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].text |
你跟他有一個交情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].start |
12516.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].end |
12518.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].text |
對外的說過有過一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].start |
12518.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].end |
12520.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].text |
其實那是過一次的失誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].start |
12520.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].end |
12522.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].text |
也就是造機公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].start |
12522.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].end |
12523.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].text |
過一次什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].start |
12523.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].end |
12525.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].text |
兩三年前造機公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].start |
12525.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].end |
12526.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].text |
曾經辦過一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].start |
12526.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].end |
12529.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].text |
陽明山平等里的水郡的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].start |
12529.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].end |
12530.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].text |
就是您這張造機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].start |
12530.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].end |
12534.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].text |
這一次有二三十個業界的朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].start |
12534.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].end |
12535.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].text |
大家每一次嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].start |
12535.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].end |
12536.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].text |
就是每一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].start |
12536.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].end |
12537.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].text |
就是每一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].start |
12537.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].end |
12538.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].text |
這個這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].start |
12539.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].end |
12540.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].text |
是不出口的業務嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].start |
12542.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].end |
12543.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].text |
是為了公務嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].start |
12543.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].end |
12547.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].text |
所以你才認得這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].start |
12547.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].end |
12549.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].text |
那我想請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].start |
12549.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].end |
12550.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].text |
那你真誠的沒有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].start |
12552.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].end |
12553.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].text |
就這張是你找的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].start |
12554.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].end |
12556.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].text |
大家都是為了業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].start |
12556.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].end |
12560.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].text |
所以基本上才會到辦公室找你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].start |
12560.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].end |
12562.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].text |
其實很多的理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].start |
12562.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].end |
12566.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].text |
也都來辦公室找我 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].start |
12566.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].end |
12568.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].text |
不是只有李建成會來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].start |
12568.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].end |
12570.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].text |
很多的理事長業者都會來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].start |
12571.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].end |
12572.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].text |
所以為了公務嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].start |
12572.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].end |
12574.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].text |
行程表上面都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].start |
12574.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].end |
12576.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].text |
我的行程表上面都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].start |
12576.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].end |
12577.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].text |
所以這是一個公務嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].start |
12577.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].end |
12578.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].text |
當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].start |
12578.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].end |
12579.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].text |
這是公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].start |
12579.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].end |
12581.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].text |
到開台去才可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].start |
12581.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].end |
12583.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].text |
這是公務嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].start |
12583.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].end |
12585.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].text |
其實去日本考察就是為了了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].start |
12585.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].end |
12587.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].text |
包租代管的業務是怎麼推動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].start |
12587.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].end |
12588.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].text |
公務嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].start |
12588.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].end |
12589.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].start |
12591.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].end |
12593.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].text |
那也是公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].start |
12593.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].end |
12595.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].text |
這裡面的所有都是理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].start |
12595.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].end |
12596.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].text |
這是公務嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].start |
12596.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].end |
12597.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].text |
當然都是公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].start |
12597.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].end |
12598.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].text |
也是公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].start |
12599.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].end |
12600.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].text |
來個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].start |
12600.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].end |
12601.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].text |
來個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].start |
12601.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].end |
12603.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].text |
這是他們的尾牙 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].start |
12603.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].end |
12604.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].text |
這是公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].start |
12604.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].end |
12606.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].text |
我參加的尾牙多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].start |
12606.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].end |
12609.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].text |
很多公務的尾牙都要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].start |
12609.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].end |
12611.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].text |
所以今天結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].start |
12611.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].end |
12613.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].text |
我們董事長非常辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].start |
12613.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].end |
12616.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].text |
為了包租代管的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].start |
12616.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].end |
12618.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].text |
要陪著出國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].start |
12618.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].end |
12620.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].text |
要去參加尾牙 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].start |
12620.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].end |
12622.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].text |
這不是陪著出國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].start |
12622.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].end |
12627.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].text |
是一起出國考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].start |
12627.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].end |
12629.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].text |
要去劇場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].start |
12629.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].end |
12630.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].text |
要去演藝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].start |
12630.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].end |
12632.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].text |
要去參加尾牙 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].start |
12632.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].end |
12635.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].text |
總的就是為了公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].start |
12635.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].end |
12638.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].text |
只有一次去山林山跑山 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].start |
12638.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].end |
12639.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].start |
12639.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].end |
12642.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].text |
其實這是所有推動政務局的團員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].start |
12642.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].end |
12644.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].text |
必須要的態度和作法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].start |
12644.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].end |
12645.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].text |
這是公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].start |
12645.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].end |
12646.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].text |
這是通案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].start |
12646.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].end |
12647.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].text |
確定管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].start |
12647.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].end |
12648.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].text |
確定公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].start |
12648.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].end |
12650.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].text |
然後再來請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].start |
12651.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].end |
12654.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].text |
包租代管現在爆發了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].start |
12654.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].end |
12655.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].text |
集體企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].start |
12655.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].end |
12657.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].text |
造極投資公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].start |
12657.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].end |
12659.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].text |
還有造極武館 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].start |
12659.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].end |
12661.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].text |
這樣的一些狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].start |
12661.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].end |
12665.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].text |
那我也知道董事長你已經也回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].start |
12665.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].end |
12667.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].text |
很多市卓瑞委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].start |
12667.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].end |
12669.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].text |
那我還是一樣的質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].start |
12670.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].end |
12672.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].text |
我們說任何一個危機就處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].start |
12674 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].end |
12677 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].text |
既然我們這麼大的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].start |
12677 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].end |
12679 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].text |
包租代管的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].start |
12679 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].end |
12683 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].text |
已經都由我們造極武館在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].start |
12683 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].end |
12686 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].text |
那目前處理的基金稅確定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].start |
12686 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].end |
12688 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].text |
他沒辦法來服務了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].start |
12688 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].end |
12690 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].text |
你剛剛也在打訊息的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].start |
12690 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].end |
12692 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].text |
你明星在卸注嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].start |
12692 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].end |
12693 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].text |
轉卸嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].start |
12693 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].end |
12696 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].text |
有其他的同業來卸嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].start |
12696 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].end |
12698 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].text |
那一樣有問到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].start |
12698 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].end |
12700 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].text |
你們有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].start |
12700.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].end |
12702.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].start |
12701.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].end |
12703.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].text |
他的財務問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].start |
12703.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].end |
12705.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].text |
危及到造極 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].start |
12705.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].end |
12707.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].text |
本身這麼安量 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].start |
12707.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].end |
12709.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].text |
服量這麼大的公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].start |
12709.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].end |
12711.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].text |
如果他也出狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].start |
12711.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].end |
12713.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].text |
你們要怎麼來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].start |
12713.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].end |
12714.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].text |
根本報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].start |
12714.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].end |
12716.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].text |
因為造極現在公會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].start |
12716.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].end |
12718.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].text |
就是中央版的有8000多件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].start |
12718.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].end |
12720.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].text |
縣市政府六都的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].start |
12720.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].end |
12721.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].text |
有7000多件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].start |
12721.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].end |
12723.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].text |
大家大概差不多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].start |
12723.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].end |
12725.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].text |
那現階段當然我們處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].start |
12725.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].end |
12728.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].text |
基金稅確定這一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].start |
12728.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].end |
12729.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].text |
因為現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].start |
12729.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].end |
12730.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].text |
我要跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].start |
12730.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].end |
12732.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].text |
你現在是很理想的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].start |
12732.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].end |
12734.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].text |
基金稅六百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].start |
12734.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].end |
12735.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].text |
六千多家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].start |
12735.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].end |
12737.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].text |
六千多家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].start |
12737.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].end |
12738.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].text |
我們這次就來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].start |
12739.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].end |
12741.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].text |
你有沒有意識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].start |
12741.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].end |
12742.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].text |
假設我這樣假設 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].start |
12742.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].end |
12743.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].text |
未來這幾天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].start |
12743.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].end |
12745.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].text |
因為這個狀況很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].start |
12745.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].end |
12748.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].text |
真的如果造極又出狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].start |
12749.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].end |
12750.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].text |
你們有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].start |
12750.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].end |
12752.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].text |
所謂的劇本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].start |
12752.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].end |
12754.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].text |
有所謂的意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].start |
12754.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].end |
12756.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].text |
算給委員聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].start |
12756.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].end |
12758.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].text |
我們現在六都的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].start |
12758.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].end |
12759.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].text |
縣市版 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].start |
12759.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].end |
12760.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].text |
公會版的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].start |
12760.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].end |
12761.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].text |
有90家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].start |
12761.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].end |
12763.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].text |
六都有90家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].start |
12763.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].end |
12765.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].text |
那造極加上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].start |
12765.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].end |
12766.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].text |
寄居蟹 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].start |
12766.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].end |
12767.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].text |
6600 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].start |
12767.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].end |
12768.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].text |
我說除下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].start |
12768.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].end |
12769.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].text |
我說處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].start |
12769.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].end |
12770.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].text |
6600除以90 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].start |
12770.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].end |
12773.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].text |
大概就是70案左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].start |
12773.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].end |
12775.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].text |
就是一家業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].start |
12775.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].end |
12777.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].text |
協助處理70個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].start |
12777.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].end |
12779.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].text |
就是處理寄居蟹 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].start |
12779.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].end |
12781.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].text |
如果造極再進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].start |
12781.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].end |
12783.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].text |
大概就是增加到150 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].start |
12784.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].end |
12785.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].text |
沒有劇本那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].start |
12786.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].end |
12789.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].text |
其實當然要準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].start |
12789.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].end |
12790.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].text |
當然要準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].start |
12790.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].end |
12791.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].text |
已經有準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].start |
12791.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].end |
12792.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].text |
當然要準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].start |
12792.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].end |
12793.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].text |
當然有準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].start |
12793.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].end |
12795.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].text |
所以說我們要讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].start |
12795.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].end |
12796.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].text |
房東 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].start |
12796.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].end |
12797.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].text |
房客 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].start |
12797.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].end |
12798.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].text |
要很安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].start |
12798.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].end |
12799.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].text |
是是是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].start |
12799.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].end |
12800.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].text |
今天的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].start |
12800.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].end |
12801.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].text |
最主要就是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].start |
12801.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].end |
12802.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].text |
是是是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].start |
12802.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].end |
12803.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].text |
董事長你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].start |
12803.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].end |
12804.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].text |
你們都有準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].start |
12804.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].end |
12805.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].start |
12805.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].end |
12806.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].text |
已經包括了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].start |
12806.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].end |
12807.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].text |
如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].start |
12807.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].end |
12809.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].text |
今天造極又出狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].start |
12809.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].end |
12811.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].text |
你們一樣有因應的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].start |
12811.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].end |
12816.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].text |
透過既有的包租代管的這些公會的會員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].start |
12816.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].end |
12820.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].text |
他們完全有能力來承接 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].start |
12820.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].end |
12823.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].text |
沒錯就是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].start |
12824.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].end |
12825.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].text |
那我在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].start |
12825.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].end |
12826.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].text |
還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].start |
12826.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].end |
12829.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].text |
跟我們董事長再挑戰一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].start |
12829.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].end |
12831.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].text |
也再提醒你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].start |
12831.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].end |
12832.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].text |
為了業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].start |
12832.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].end |
12834.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].text |
公務你很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].start |
12834.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].end |
12837.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].text |
但是在這樣的一個交情之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].start |
12837.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].end |
12838.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].text |
難免 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].start |
12838.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].end |
12839.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].text |
難免那麼的外界 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].start |
12841.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].end |
12843.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].text |
會有懷疑嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].start |
12843.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].end |
12844.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].text |
所以造極 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].start |
12844.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].end |
12847.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].text |
不管可以拿到這麼多案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].start |
12847.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].end |
12850.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].text |
包括我們豬豬中心本身的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].start |
12850.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].end |
12852.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].text |
包括各國會的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].start |
12852.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].end |
12854.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].text |
主要是縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].start |
12854.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].end |
12856.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].text |
跟你的關係絕對有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].start |
12856.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].end |
12857.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].text |
跟我絕對沒關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].start |
12857.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].end |
12858.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].text |
因為縣市政府案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].start |
12858.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].end |
12860.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].text |
我怎麼可能跟我有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].start |
12860.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].end |
12863.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].text |
我現在你把它切到縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].start |
12863.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].end |
12865.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].text |
我現在跟你切的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].start |
12865.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].end |
12866.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].text |
不是縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].start |
12866.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].end |
12868.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].text |
我現在要切的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].start |
12868.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].end |
12869.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].text |
你敢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].start |
12869.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].end |
12872.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].text |
他跟豬豬中心的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].start |
12872.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].end |
12874.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].text |
我跟所有業者的關係都不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].start |
12874.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].end |
12876.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].text |
我跟所有業者的關係都不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].start |
12876.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].end |
12878.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].text |
社交能力非常強 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].start |
12878.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].end |
12879.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].text |
我社交能力很不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].start |
12879.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].end |
12880.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].text |
各位好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].start |
12880.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].end |
12882.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].text |
我很少去參加那麼多晚飯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].start |
12882.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].end |
12885.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].text |
我大多數都回家吃晚飯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].start |
12885.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].end |
12886.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].text |
我很不喜歡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].start |
12886.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].end |
12888.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].text |
所以我喜歡你最多回家吃晚飯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].start |
12888.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].end |
12889.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].text |
各位好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].start |
12889.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].end |
12891.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].text |
不要參加那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].start |
12891.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].end |
12892.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].text |
來請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].start |
12892.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].end |
12893.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].start |
12893.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].end |
12896.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].text |
接下來我們請認證部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].start |
12899.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].end |
12900.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].start |
12900.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].end |
12901.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].text |
好簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].start |
12901.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].end |
12903.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].text |
好簡單的詢問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].start |
12903.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].end |
12904.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].text |
我們要決定條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].start |
12905.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].end |
12906.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].text |
這個學法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].start |
12906.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].end |
12907.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].text |
沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].start |
12907.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].end |
12908.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].text |
你會上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].start |
12909.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].end |
12910.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].text |
租賃修法的條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].start |
12910.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].end |
12914.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].text |
我們現在在那個行政院在整理當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].start |
12914.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].end |
12915.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].text |
還在整理當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].start |
12915.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].end |
12916.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].text |
不是報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].start |
12916.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].end |
12918.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].text |
我們在整理的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].start |
12918.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].end |
12920.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].text |
我們持續跟很多團體交換意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].start |
12920.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].end |
12922.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].text |
所以我們很希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].start |
12922.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].end |
12923.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].text |
送到立法院來的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].start |
12923.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].end |
12925.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].text |
不要有太多的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].start |
12925.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].end |
12928.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].text |
所以目前的版本是還有爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].start |
12928.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].end |
12930.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].text |
社會共識還沒有達成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].start |
12930.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].end |
12932.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].text |
有爭議的朋友我們先在話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].start |
12932.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].end |
12933.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].text |
有報告講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].start |
12933.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].end |
12935.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].text |
還有好多社會共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].start |
12935.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].end |
12937.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].text |
一些公司沒有達成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].start |
12937.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].end |
12939.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].text |
但是在沒有達成之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].start |
12939.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].end |
12940.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].text |
我記得你在去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].start |
12940.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].end |
12943.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].text |
114年9月18日 |
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12943.25 |
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12945.25 |
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你在你的部會議完之後 |
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12945.25 |
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12947.25 |
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你有召開的請示 |
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12947.25 |
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12949.25 |
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說明你的修法方向 |
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12949.25 |
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12950.25 |
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對 |
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12950.25 |
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12951.25 |
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修法方向你還記得嗎 |
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12951.25 |
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是我們的修法方向裡面有提到 |
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就是這一次在暫緩的部分 |
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12958.25 |
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包括說租賃的條款 |
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12960.56 |
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12962.56 |
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還有租金限制漲幅的部分 |
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12965.56 |
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這個部分因為每個不同的團體 |
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12965.56 |
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12967.56 |
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有不同的看法 |
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所以我們這個部分 |
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12968.56 |
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就是要再審慎評估 |
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12969.56 |
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12971.56 |
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對 你要審慎評估 |
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12971.56 |
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12972.56 |
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當初沒有審慎評估 |
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12972.56 |
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12975.56 |
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你就說要保障修法的方向 |
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12975.56 |
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保障三年的租金 |
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12977.56 |
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12978.56 |
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說在修法的方向 |
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12978.56 |
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12980.56 |
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因為租金是這樣 |
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12980.56 |
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12982.56 |
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強化主任相當的權益 |
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12982.56 |
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12983.56 |
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對不對 |
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12983.56 |
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12985.56 |
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但是整個修法方向 |
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12985.56 |
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12986.56 |
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到目前為止 |
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12986.56 |
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12987.56 |
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因為你現在講了 |
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12987.56 |
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12988.56 |
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你去年講說 |
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12988.56 |
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12990.56 |
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這是你的修法方向 |
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12990.56 |
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12994.56 |
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已經取得開國公聽會 |
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12994.56 |
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12996.56 |
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開國說明會 |
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12996.56 |
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12998.56 |
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結果你現在說 |
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12998.56 |
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12999.56 |
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沒有社會公司 |
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12999.56 |
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13002.56 |
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所以整個修法方向要調整 |
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13002.56 |
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13005.56 |
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所以我們的保障三年的租金 |
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13005.56 |
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13009.56 |
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我們的限制續約租金的帳戶 |
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13009.56 |
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13011.56 |
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這些都是跳票的嗎 |
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13012.21 |
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13013.21 |
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報告委員 |
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13013.21 |
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13014.21 |
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應該不能這樣講 |
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13014.21 |
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13016.21 |
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第一個我們還是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].start |
13016.21 |
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13019.21 |
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我們這個修法方向 |
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13019.21 |
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13021.21 |
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還是要送到大院來 |
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13021.21 |
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13023.21 |
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對 送到大院來 |
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13023.21 |
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13025.21 |
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我現在講的是你自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].start |
13025.21 |
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13026.21 |
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對外公布的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].start |
13026.21 |
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13027.21 |
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是的 委員我同意 |
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13027.21 |
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13028.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].text |
你也有說法 |
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13028.21 |
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13029.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].text |
這是你對外公布的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].start |
13029.21 |
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13031.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].text |
這不是我們立法委員 |
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13031.21 |
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13032.21 |
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給你建議的 |
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13032.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].end |
13034.21 |
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是你親自公布的 |
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13034.21 |
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13035.21 |
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我知道 |
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13035.21 |
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13036.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].text |
那你現在已經 |
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13036.21 |
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13038.21 |
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這樣的一個方向 |
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13038.21 |
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13040.21 |
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來做一個大轉彎 |
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13040.21 |
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13041.21 |
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大跳票 |
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13041.21 |
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13043.21 |
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你要不要做一個說明 |
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13046.03 |
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13048.03 |
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為何轉彎這麼大的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].start |
13048.03 |
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13049.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].text |
報告委員我剛剛講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].start |
13049.03 |
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13050.03 |
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就是我們提出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].start |
13050.03 |
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13052.03 |
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這個五大修法方向裡面 |
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13052.03 |
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13054.03 |
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現在就是把保障租期 |
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13054.03 |
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13056.03 |
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跟限制租金的部分 |
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13056.03 |
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13058.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].text |
稍微往後再做評論 |
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13058.03 |
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13059.03 |
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我在這邊比較 |
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13060.1 |
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13061.1 |
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Yeah |
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13061.6 |
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13062.6 |
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謝謝 |
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13063.1 |
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13064.1 |
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整個修法方向 |
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13064.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].end |
13065.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].text |
原來是 |
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13065.1 |
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13066.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].text |
原來是保障 |
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13067.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].end |
13068.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].text |
長客 |
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13068.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].end |
13069.2 |
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出去交會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].start |
13069.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].end |
13071.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].text |
你把這個部分拿掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].start |
13072.84 |
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13073.84 |
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下不去 |
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13075.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].end |
13077.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].text |
比較保障房東 |
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13077.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].end |
13078.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].text |
報告委員 |
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13078.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].end |
13079.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].text |
房東跟房客 |
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13079.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].end |
13080.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].text |
這個後面 |
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13080.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].end |
13081.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].text |
房東跟房客 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].start |
13081.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].end |
13082.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].text |
他們一定要承認 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].start |
13082.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].end |
13084.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].text |
怎麼這個一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].start |
13084.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].end |
13085.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].text |
我跟你們了解 |
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13085.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].end |
13086.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].text |
我跟你一樣的立場 |
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13086.06 |
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13087.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].text |
我們希望有房東 |
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13087.06 |
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13088.06 |
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是不是 |
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13088.06 |
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13090.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].text |
房東基本上是 |
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13090.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].end |
13092.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].text |
房東如果不願意買賬的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].start |
13092.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].end |
13094.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].text |
沒有房東跟房客 |
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13094.06 |
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13095.06 |
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房東啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].start |
13095.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].end |
13096.06 |
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這是最大的麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].start |
13096.06 |
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13097.06 |
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房東啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].start |
13097.06 |
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13098.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].text |
沒有沒有 |
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13098.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].end |
13099.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].text |
這是跟房東帶管 |
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13099.06 |
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13100.06 |
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沒有絕對的關係 |
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13100.06 |
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13101.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].text |
其實這有一個串聯 |
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13101.06 |
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13103.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].text |
房東加保主帶管 |
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13103.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].end |
13105.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].text |
保主帶管加房東 |
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13105.06 |
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13107.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].text |
會形成比較大的 |
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13107.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].end |
13109.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].text |
優勢的能力 |
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13109.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].end |
13112.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].text |
我不希望你的修法方向 |
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13112.06 |
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13115.06 |
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因為這樣而犧牲 |
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13115.06 |
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13116.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].text |
房客的保障 |
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13116.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].end |
13117.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].text |
我們沒有犧牲房客的意義 |
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13117.06 |
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13118.06 |
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我只是 |
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13118.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].end |
13119.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].text |
我只是跟委員講 |
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13119.06 |
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13122.06 |
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你的修法還是要再提防衛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].start |
13122.06 |
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13124.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].text |
所以我只是在這裡 |
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13124.06 |
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13125.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].text |
先提醒我們 |
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13125.06 |
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13126.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].text |
謝謝 |
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13126.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].end |
13127.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].text |
我們也期待 |
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13127.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].end |
13129.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].text |
透過我們房東 |
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13129.06 |
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13130.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].text |
房客的權益 |
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13130.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].end |
13131.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].text |
我們會把這些 |
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13131.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].end |
13133.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].text |
我們會把這些表達出來 |
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13133.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].end |
13136.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].text |
趕快把法案送到理外院來 |
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13136.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].end |
13137.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].text |
請大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].start |
13137.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].end |
13138.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].text |
那時候可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].start |
13139.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].end |
13140.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].text |
這個部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].start |
13140.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].end |
13141.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].text |
修法部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].start |
13141.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].end |
13142.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].text |
因為還有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].start |
13142.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].end |
13144.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].text |
有關於強制執行的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].start |
13144.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].end |
13145.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].text |
要跟司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].start |
13145.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].end |
13147.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].text |
還有縣市政府來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].start |
13147.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].end |
13148.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].text |
所以那個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].start |
13148.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].end |
13151.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].text |
那個我們會盡快 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].start |
13151.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].end |
13153.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].text |
你們現在是卡在主辦財款嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].start |
13153.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].end |
13155.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].text |
還有跟縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].start |
13155.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].end |
13158.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].text |
跟司法院來議情的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].start |
13158.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].end |
13159.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].text |
最快最快 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].start |
13159.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].end |
13161.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].text |
這個還要再細部討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].start |
13161.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].end |
13162.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].text |
因為還要看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].start |
13162.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].end |
13163.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].text |
司法院的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].start |
13163.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].end |
13164.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].text |
跟縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].start |
13164.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].end |
13165.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].text |
你們是今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].start |
13165.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].end |
13166.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].start |
13168.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].end |
13170.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].text |
我們沒辦法掌握進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].start |
13170.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].end |
13171.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].text |
然後還有行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].start |
13171.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].end |
13172.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].text |
他們也是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].start |
13172.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].end |
13173.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].text |
我們能夠快 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].start |
13173.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].end |
13174.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].text |
但是剛剛提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].start |
13174.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].end |
13175.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].text |
我也希望能夠快 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].start |
13175.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].end |
13176.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].text |
因為司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].start |
13176.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].end |
13177.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].text |
沒有給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].start |
13177.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].end |
13178.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].text |
既定了答案的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].start |
13178.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].end |
13179.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].text |
我們只能空白 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].start |
13179.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].end |
13180.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].text |
這樣子把人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].start |
13180.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].end |
13182.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].text |
我們都想在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].start |
13182.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].end |
13184.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].text |
處理這個條例的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].start |
13184.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].end |
13185.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].text |
所以我們的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].start |
13185.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].end |
13186.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].text |
我們都已經進去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].start |
13186.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].end |
13187.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].text |
不讓房東房客 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].start |
13187.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].end |
13188.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].text |
我們希望你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].start |
13188.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].end |
13190.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].text |
做快速度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].start |
13190.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].end |
13191.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].start |
13191.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].end |
13192.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].start |
13197.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].end |
13199.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].text |
好 我們下一位請林黛樺委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].start |
13199.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].end |
13201.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].text |
林黛樺 林黛樺 林黛樺不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].start |
13201.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].end |
13203.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].text |
下一位請林倩琪委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].start |
13203.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].end |
13205.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].text |
林倩琪 林倩琪 林倩琪不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].start |
13205.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].end |
13207.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].text |
我們下一位請葉元之委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].start |
13208.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].end |
13209.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].text |
居然在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].start |
13217.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].end |
13219.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].text |
主席好 麻煩請部長 內政部長 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].start |
13220.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].end |
13222.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].text |
部長 我想跟您請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].start |
13222.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].end |
13224.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].text |
就是其實大家還是希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].start |
13224.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].end |
13226.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].text |
直接興建社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].start |
13226.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].end |
13228.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].text |
那時候賴總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].start |
13228.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].end |
13230.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].text |
他在選舉的時候提到一個政見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].start |
13230.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].end |
13232.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].text |
他是延續著 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].start |
13232.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].end |
13235.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].text |
蔡英文總統的基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].start |
13235.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].end |
13237.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].text |
但是那時候蔡英文總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].start |
13237.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].end |
13238.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].text |
他訂的社會住宅目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].start |
13238.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].end |
13239.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].text |
他訂20萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].start |
13239.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].end |
13241.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].text |
他是12萬戶直接興建 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].start |
13241.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].end |
13243.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].text |
加上8萬戶的租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].start |
13243.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].end |
13244.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].text |
租補貼20萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].start |
13244.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].end |
13245.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].text |
包租貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].start |
13245.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].end |
13246.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].text |
包租貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].start |
13246.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].end |
13247.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].text |
其實就已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].start |
13247.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].end |
13248.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].text |
受到大家很多質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].start |
13248.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].end |
13250.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].text |
因為大家期待是完工 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].start |
13250.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].end |
13252.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].text |
甚至於是已經發包出去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].start |
13252.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].end |
13254.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].text |
可是其實賴總統那時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].start |
13254.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].end |
13256.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].text |
他算那12萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].start |
13256.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].end |
13258.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].text |
已經把很多什麼規劃中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].start |
13258.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].end |
13259.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].text |
招標中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].start |
13259.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].end |
13260.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].text |
類似這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].start |
13260.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].end |
13262.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].text |
就是還看不到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].start |
13262.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].end |
13263.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].text |
拿進來計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].start |
13263.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].end |
13264.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].text |
所以有一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].start |
13264.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].end |
13266.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].text |
到底蔡英文總統有沒有跳票的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].start |
13266.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].end |
13268.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].text |
那時候背景是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].start |
13268.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].end |
13270.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].text |
所以當賴慶州總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].start |
13270.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].end |
13272.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].text |
又推出一個要直接興建13萬戶的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].start |
13272.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].end |
13274.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].text |
然後要含包租貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].start |
13274.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].end |
13276.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].text |
加上租補貼100萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].start |
13276.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].end |
13277.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].text |
這樣計畫的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].start |
13277.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].end |
13279.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].text |
其實那個時候很多人提出質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].start |
13279.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].end |
13281.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].text |
覺得這是不是又是一個拔蠟票 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].start |
13281.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].end |
13282.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].text |
是不是又是隨便含含 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].start |
13282.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].end |
13284.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].text |
我不知道那個部長您當時是立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].start |
13284.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].end |
13287.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].text |
您應該也有記得這個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].start |
13287.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].end |
13289.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].text |
結果那時候賴清德總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].start |
13289.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].end |
13290.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].text |
那時候是副總統說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].start |
13290.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].end |
13291.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].text |
不會發生這個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].start |
13291.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].end |
13293.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].text |
一定會很努力把它達成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].start |
13293.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].end |
13294.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].text |
結果沒有想到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].start |
13294.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].end |
13296.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].text |
才上任兩年就大轉彎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].start |
13296.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].end |
13298.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].text |
直接興建13萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].start |
13298.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].end |
13300.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].text |
直接縮水變3萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].start |
13300.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].end |
13301.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].text |
其中3萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].start |
13301.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].end |
13303.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].text |
裡面還有2.5萬戶是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].start |
13303.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].end |
13305.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].text |
蔡英文總統當時規劃的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].start |
13305.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].end |
13308.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].text |
代表當時他在規劃這個政見的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].start |
13308.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].end |
13310.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].text |
就沒有很認真很仔細 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].start |
13310.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].end |
13312.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].text |
去思考說到底能不能做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].start |
13312.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].end |
13314.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].text |
那我覺得這樣國會失望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].start |
13314.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].end |
13316.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].text |
國會覺得說對你期望這麼高 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].start |
13316.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].end |
13318.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].text |
很多人可能也是因為這樣投票給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].start |
13318.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].end |
13322.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].text |
只有兩年之後就自己就宣布跳票 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].start |
13322.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].end |
13324.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].text |
那到底為什麼會這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].start |
13324.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].end |
13327.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].text |
報告委員蔡總統並沒有跳票 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].start |
13327.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].end |
13329.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].text |
但是我也要跟委員講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].start |
13329.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].end |
13331.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].text |
蓋房子真的不是一朝一夕就可以完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].start |
13331.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].end |
13332.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].text |
那當然了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].start |
13332.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].end |
13333.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].text |
這個我都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].start |
13333.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].end |
13334.72 |
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這個我都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].start |
13334.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].end |
13336.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].text |
我聽說那既然這麼困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].start |
13336.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].end |
13339.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].text |
為什麼他會提出這樣的一個目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].start |
13339.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].end |
13341.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].text |
他也可以講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].start |
13341.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].end |
13343.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].text |
蓋房子沒有那麼容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].start |
13343.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].end |
13346.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].text |
所以蔡總統很努力的盡量完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].start |
13346.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].end |
13348.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].text |
那我們就增加多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].start |
13348.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].end |
13349.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].text |
你可以這樣子講保守一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].start |
13349.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].end |
13350.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].text |
可是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].start |
13350.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].end |
13353.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].text |
開支票的時候都講得很厲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].start |
13353.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].end |
13355.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].text |
然後結果要執行的時候就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].start |
13355.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].end |
13356.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].text |
沒那麼容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].start |
13356.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].end |
13357.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].text |
所以我們縮水 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].start |
13357.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].end |
13358.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].text |
我覺得他慢慢就會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].start |
13358.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].end |
13360.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].text |
講的話我們就不會信了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].start |
13360.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].end |
13361.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].text |
就是政府官員講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].start |
13361.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].end |
13362.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].text |
大家就慢慢就不信 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].start |
13362.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].end |
13364.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].text |
會不會兩年後又時空環境變了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].start |
13364.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].end |
13365.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].text |
又什麼狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].start |
13365.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].end |
13367.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].text |
導致於之前講的又不算話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].start |
13367.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].end |
13369.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].text |
報告委員我想您對社會住宅的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].start |
13369.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].end |
13370.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].text |
我們也都了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].start |
13370.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].end |
13374.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].text |
但是我還是一再跟委員報告說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].start |
13374.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].end |
13376.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].text |
13萬戶的目標真的沒有改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].start |
13376.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].end |
13379.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].text |
改變的部分就是社會住宅的直接興建 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].start |
13379.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].end |
13380.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].text |
我們改成是通聯興建 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].start |
13380.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].end |
13381.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].text |
我們講就是直接興建 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].start |
13381.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].end |
13382.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].text |
不然我們不要玩文字遊戲 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].start |
13382.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].end |
13384.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].text |
那時候講得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].start |
13384.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].end |
13385.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].text |
直接興建13萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].start |
13385.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].end |
13387.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].text |
你現在講的是公務機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].start |
13387.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].end |
13389.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].text |
公務機關包括中央跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].start |
13390.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].end |
13392.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].text |
賴總統講的當然是中央機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].start |
13392.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].end |
13394.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].text |
你怎麼會把地方算進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].start |
13394.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].end |
13396.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].text |
地方是要看地方政府的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].start |
13396.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].end |
13397.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].text |
加地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].start |
13397.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].end |
13398.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].text |
沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].start |
13398.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].end |
13399.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].text |
他講的是中央加地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].start |
13399.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].end |
13402.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].text |
他是總統他可以管得到地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].start |
13402.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].end |
13404.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].text |
這還把責任甩給地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].start |
13404.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].end |
13405.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].text |
沒關係啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].start |
13405.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].end |
13407.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].text |
你們因為這已經很正式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].start |
13407.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].end |
13409.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].text |
我希望說你們還是盡量要努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].start |
13409.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].end |
13411.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].text |
不要找一個理由藉口 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].start |
13411.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].end |
13412.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].text |
就說因為很困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].start |
13412.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].end |
13413.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].text |
所以我就不做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].start |
13413.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].end |
13414.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].text |
我覺得還是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].start |
13414.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].end |
13415.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].text |
我完全接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].start |
13415.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].end |
13416.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].text |
所以我們會非常努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].start |
13416.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].end |
13420.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].text |
不然國人真的會越來越失望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].start |
13420.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].end |
13422.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].text |
那我現在跟您請教一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].start |
13422.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].end |
13424.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].text |
因為那時候您是講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].start |
13424.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].end |
13426.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].text |
為什麼會有這樣的改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].start |
13426.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].end |
13428.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].text |
主要是至少我在新聞上面看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].start |
13428.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].end |
13429.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].text |
是有兩個原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].start |
13429.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].end |
13432.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].text |
一個原因是你說現在社會變遷了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].start |
13432.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].end |
13434.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].text |
社會變遷真的萬用的答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].start |
13434.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].end |
13435.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].text |
時空環境變了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].start |
13435.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].end |
13437.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].text |
第二個您是講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].start |
13438.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].end |
13441.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].text |
社宅會不會變成另外一種空餘屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].start |
13441.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].end |
13442.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].text |
這句話什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].start |
13442.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].end |
13443.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].text |
可不可以請您進一步說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].start |
13443.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].end |
13444.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].start |
13444.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].end |
13446.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].text |
在過去一段時間以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].start |
13446.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].end |
13448.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].text |
我們知道說要蓋這個社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].start |
13448.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].end |
13450.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].text |
當然現在量還沒有衝出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].start |
13450.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].end |
13452.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].text |
那在蔡總統任內到賴總統的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].start |
13452.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].end |
13455.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].text |
全台灣的22個縣市都有社宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].start |
13455.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].end |
13457.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].text |
那現在社宅陸陸續續完工之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].start |
13457.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].end |
13458.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].text |
我們要考慮的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].start |
13458.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].end |
13461.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].text |
不是所謂的講了這個社會變遷 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].start |
13461.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].end |
13463.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].text |
而是哪個地方的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].start |
13463.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].end |
13465.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].text |
哪個地方的身分的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].start |
13465.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].end |
13467.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].text |
比較需要社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].start |
13467.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].end |
13468.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].text |
後來發現到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].start |
13468.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].end |
13470.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].text |
包括我們從租金補貼裡面做分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].start |
13470.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].end |
13472.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].text |
覺得在北北桃中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].start |
13472.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].end |
13474.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].text |
這樣的一個蛋黃區域裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].start |
13474.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].end |
13476.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].text |
需要社會住宅的比例會比較高 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].start |
13476.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].end |
13478.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].text |
那所以很多偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].start |
13478.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].end |
13480.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].text |
非常偏遠地區的偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].start |
13480.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].end |
13482.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].text |
我們如果為了只要有空地 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].start |
13482.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].end |
13483.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].text |
盤整出來的空地 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].start |
13483.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].end |
13486.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].text |
然後到時候變成沒有人去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].start |
13486.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].end |
13487.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].text |
那個就是所謂的空屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].start |
13487.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].end |
13488.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].text |
謝謝部長說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].start |
13488.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].end |
13489.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].text |
所以您講的空餘屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].start |
13489.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].end |
13491.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].text |
其實您是擔心說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].start |
13491.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].end |
13493.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].text |
在全台灣有一些縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].start |
13493.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].end |
13494.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].text |
縣市偏鄉地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].start |
13494.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].end |
13496.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].text |
如果蓋太多的話會有空餘屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].start |
13496.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].end |
13497.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].text |
應該是這個意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].start |
13497.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].end |
13498.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].text |
那如果是這樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].start |
13498.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].end |
13501.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].text |
其實我認為你應該可以增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].start |
13501.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].end |
13504.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].text |
就是你把資源放在人口比較密集 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].start |
13504.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].end |
13506.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].text |
需求量比較大的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].start |
13506.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].end |
13507.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].text |
應該要這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].start |
13507.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].end |
13509.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].text |
所以不要講說有空餘屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].start |
13509.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].end |
13511.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].text |
我覺得你還是可以朝向那個目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].start |
13511.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].end |
13512.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].text |
就是你講的十三萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].start |
13512.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].end |
13515.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].text |
只是說你做一些調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].start |
13515.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].end |
13517.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].text |
我們所講的部分的前言後語 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].start |
13517.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].end |
13518.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].text |
都把它給了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].start |
13518.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].end |
13519.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].text |
我說你可以做一些調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].start |
13519.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].end |
13521.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].text |
例如說你本來有一些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].start |
13521.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].end |
13523.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].text |
要放在南部或偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].start |
13523.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].end |
13524.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].text |
但是你後來發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].start |
13524.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].end |
13526.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].text |
這樣蓋下去會有空餘屋 |
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13526.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].end |
13528.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].text |
你可以把這個資源就挪移到 |
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13528.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].end |
13530.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].text |
比如說你覺得比較需要的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].start |
13530.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].end |
13531.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].text |
舉例來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].start |
13531.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].end |
13532.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].text |
像新北市我認為很需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].start |
13532.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].end |
13534.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].text |
因為新北市就我了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].start |
13534.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].end |
13535.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].text |
社會住宅的重遷率 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].start |
13535.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].end |
13536.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].text |
大概有10%的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].start |
13536.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].end |
13538.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].text |
然後好一點的是30% |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].start |
13538.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].end |
13541.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].text |
所以你如果在新北市蓋的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].start |
13541.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].end |
13542.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].text |
把資源移過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].start |
13542.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].end |
13544.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].text |
我覺得你同時可以達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].start |
13544.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].end |
13545.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].text |
你要的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].start |
13545.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].end |
13546.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].text |
十三萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].start |
13546.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].end |
13547.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].text |
這是一個很好的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].start |
13547.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].end |
13548.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].text |
同時對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].start |
13548.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].end |
13550.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].text |
所以因為我跟新北市政府配合的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].start |
13550.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].end |
13551.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].text |
你忽然講空餘屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].start |
13551.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].end |
13552.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].text |
大家會覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].start |
13552.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].end |
13553.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].text |
沒有沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].start |
13553.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].end |
13555.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].text |
我們那邊就沒有這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].start |
13555.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].end |
13556.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].text |
我有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].start |
13556.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].end |
13557.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].text |
我有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].start |
13557.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].end |
13558.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].text |
他要稀缺土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].start |
13558.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].end |
13560.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].text |
然後因為北北桃中的稀缺土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].start |
13560.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].end |
13561.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].text |
真的非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].start |
13561.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].end |
13563.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].text |
所以我們才希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].start |
13563.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].end |
13565.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].text |
因為我知道國土署也都有盤點很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].start |
13565.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].end |
13567.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].text |
在這個北北基 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].start |
13567.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].end |
13568.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].text |
你說北北基桃嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].start |
13568.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].end |
13570.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].text |
這些保養桃中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].start |
13570.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].end |
13571.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].text |
就是有比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].start |
13571.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].end |
13573.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].text |
你沒有土地盤整 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].start |
13573.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].end |
13574.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].text |
也有盤整 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].start |
13574.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].end |
13575.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].text |
那你把資源移過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].start |
13575.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].end |
13578.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].text |
就不會在其他地方造成空餘屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].start |
13578.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].end |
13579.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].text |
然後又可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].start |
13579.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].end |
13581.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].text |
達到你們要蓋社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].start |
13581.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].end |
13582.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].text |
直接興建目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].start |
13582.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].end |
13584.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].text |
我是覺得可以朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].start |
13584.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].end |
13585.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].text |
然後第二個好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].start |
13585.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].end |
13586.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].text |
我跟部長請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].start |
13587.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].end |
13589.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].text |
現在中央因為國土署 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].start |
13589.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].end |
13591.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].text |
都會公布 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].start |
13591.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].end |
13593.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].text |
每個月都會公布新辦進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].start |
13594.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].end |
13596.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].text |
那數字就會調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].start |
13596.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].end |
13597.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].text |
我不知道為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].start |
13597.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].end |
13598.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].text |
譬如說我們看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].start |
13598.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].end |
13600.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].text |
2026年7月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].start |
13600.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].end |
13602.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].text |
我們先看2026年4月30號規劃中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].start |
13602.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].end |
13603.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].text |
因為規劃中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].start |
13603.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].end |
13604.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].text |
到底規劃哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].start |
13604.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].end |
13606.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].text |
我希望今天會後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].start |
13606.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].end |
13609.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].text |
國土署可以給我一份比較詳細的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].start |
13610.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].end |
13611.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].text |
譬如說以新北市來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].start |
13611.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].end |
13615.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].text |
中央的部分規劃中是8,375戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].start |
13615.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].end |
13618.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].text |
這是2026年4月30號的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].start |
13618.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].end |
13621.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].text |
但是到了2026年7月31號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].start |
13621.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].end |
13624.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].text |
新北市中央規劃中的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].start |
13624.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].end |
13627.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].text |
變成7,078戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].start |
13627.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].end |
13629.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].text |
就少了1,200多戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].start |
13629.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].end |
13631.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].text |
那我不知道為什麼忽然減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].start |
13631.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].end |
13633.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].text |
規劃中為什麼忽然規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].start |
13633.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].end |
13634.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].text |
然後又不做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].start |
13634.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].end |
13635.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].text |
不做了還是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].start |
13636.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].end |
13638.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].text |
那是遇到什麼困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].start |
13638.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].end |
13639.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].text |
是遇到什麼困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].start |
13639.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].end |
13642.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].text |
還是說因為反正都已經講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].start |
13642.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].end |
13645.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].text |
我們現在13萬戶要直接變成3萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].start |
13645.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].end |
13646.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].text |
目標沒那麼遠大了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].start |
13646.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].end |
13648.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].text |
所以我也沒那麼積極了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].start |
13648.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].end |
13649.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].text |
是什麼原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].start |
13651.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].end |
13652.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].start |
13652.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].end |
13654.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].text |
其實這個一些社宅的一個量 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].start |
13654.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].end |
13657.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].text |
我們固定跟縣市政府都有一個會議在召開 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].start |
13657.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].end |
13658.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].text |
那有些是當初 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].start |
13658.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].end |
13659.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].text |
我先講的是中央的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].start |
13659.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].end |
13661.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].text |
好不好你就回答我的問題就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].start |
13661.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].end |
13663.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].text |
不要什麼都扯到地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].start |
13663.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].end |
13664.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].text |
中央的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].start |
13664.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].end |
13665.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].text |
中央你就知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].start |
13665.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].end |
13666.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].text |
其實中央的一些用地的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].start |
13666.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].end |
13668.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].text |
涉及到一些相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].start |
13668.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].end |
13669.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].text |
對我現在就問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].start |
13669.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].end |
13670.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].text |
所以你也會知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].start |
13670.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].end |
13671.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].text |
你回答我問題就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].start |
13671.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].end |
13672.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].text |
那有時候這些機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].start |
13672.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].end |
13674.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].text |
他對那些原來庫存的這個土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].start |
13674.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].end |
13675.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].text |
他有需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].start |
13675.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].end |
13677.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].text |
那會就因為這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].start |
13677.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].end |
13678.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].text |
你現在講的是可能狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].start |
13678.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].end |
13679.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].text |
可能狀況嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].start |
13679.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].end |
13680.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].text |
我現在問你的是具體狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].start |
13680.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].end |
13682.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].text |
就是新北市規劃中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].start |
13682.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].end |
13684.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].text |
4月有8000多戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].start |
13684.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].end |
13686.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].text |
到7月剩7000戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].start |
13686.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].end |
13688.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].text |
少了1200戶什麼原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].start |
13688.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].end |
13690.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].text |
這是具體的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].start |
13690.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].end |
13692.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].text |
不用跟我講原則的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].start |
13692.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].end |
13693.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].text |
我們再查一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].start |
13693.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].end |
13694.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].text |
因為這個原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].start |
13694.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].end |
13695.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].text |
那沒關係你現在答不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].start |
13695.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].end |
13696.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].text |
我就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].start |
13696.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].end |
13698.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].text |
我剛說會後你提供給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].start |
13698.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].end |
13699.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].text |
但是不要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].start |
13699.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].end |
13701.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].text |
你不知道答案就在那邊亂扯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].start |
13701.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].end |
13703.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].text |
說這搞不好是地方政府的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].start |
13703.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].end |
13704.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].text |
那亂扯這幹嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].start |
13704.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].end |
13705.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].text |
要浪費大家時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].start |
13705.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].end |
13706.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].start |
13706.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].end |
13708.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].text |
因為我想要了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].start |
13708.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].end |
13709.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].text |
是不是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].start |
13709.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].end |
13710.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].text |
你們目標減少之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].start |
13710.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].end |
13711.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].text |
你們就沒那麼積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].start |
13711.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].end |
13712.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].text |
我想了解這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].start |
13712.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].end |
13713.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].text |
你就告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].start |
13713.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].end |
13714.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].text |
為什麼要減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].start |
13714.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].end |
13715.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].start |
13715.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].end |
13716.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].text |
告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].start |
13716.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].end |
13717.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].text |
然後盡量公開透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].start |
13717.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].end |
13719.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].text |
大家往新建的方向去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].start |
13719.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].end |
13720.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].text |
然後再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].start |
13720.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].end |
13721.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].text |
跟部長請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].start |
13721.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].end |
13722.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].text |
一個簡單的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].start |
13722.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].end |
13724.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].text |
因為除了直接新建社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].start |
13724.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].end |
13725.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].text |
還有包租代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].start |
13725.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].end |
13727.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].text |
因為最近不是有發生問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].start |
13727.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].end |
13728.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].text |
那大家就發現說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].start |
13728.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].end |
13731.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].text |
這樣一個商業模式可能需要檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].start |
13731.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].end |
13733.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].text |
因為像發生問題那家公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].start |
13733.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].end |
13735.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].text |
其實很多錢是在他那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].start |
13735.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].end |
13736.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].text |
房東的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].start |
13736.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].end |
13738.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].text |
就是要給房東的錢是在他那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].start |
13738.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].end |
13739.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].text |
就從房客那邊收過來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].start |
13739.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].end |
13741.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].text |
還有房客的押金也在他那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].start |
13741.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].end |
13742.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].text |
所以他一旦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].start |
13742.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].end |
13744.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].text |
發生財務問題的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].start |
13744.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].end |
13745.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].text |
萬一我們沒有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].start |
13745.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].end |
13746.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].text |
好的保障機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].start |
13746.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].end |
13747.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].text |
搞不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].start |
13747.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].end |
13748.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].text |
房東會拿不到錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].start |
13748.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].end |
13750.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].text |
搞不好房客的押金會拿不回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].start |
13750.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].end |
13752.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].text |
所以我想問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].start |
13752.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].end |
13753.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].text |
現在有沒有出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].start |
13753.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].end |
13755.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].text |
像房東的錢拿不到的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].start |
13755.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].end |
13756.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].start |
13759.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].end |
13761.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].text |
各位報告目前都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].start |
13761.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].end |
13762.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].text |
會不會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].start |
13762.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].end |
13765.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].text |
現階段看起來應該可以穩得住 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].start |
13765.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].end |
13767.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].text |
但我希望我們盡可能的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].start |
13767.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].end |
13768.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].text |
把這個部分穩住 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].start |
13768.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].end |
13770.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].text |
盡可能穩住什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].start |
13770.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].end |
13772.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].text |
如果他到時候都財務狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].start |
13772.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].end |
13774.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].text |
然後他後面就不處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].start |
13774.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].end |
13775.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].text |
因為錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].start |
13775.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].end |
13777.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].text |
那你說怎麼穩住 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].start |
13777.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].end |
13779.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].text |
現在我們把他手上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].start |
13779.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].end |
13782.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].text |
盡量在一個月之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].start |
13782.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].end |
13785.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].text |
把他轉到其他的業者的服務手上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].start |
13785.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].end |
13787.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].text |
那其實這個部分又重新接上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].start |
13787.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].end |
13789.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].text |
就不會有這個問題了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].start |
13791.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].end |
13793.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].text |
照理說現在公司也正在重新整頓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].start |
13793.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].end |
13795.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].text |
我們當然希望他穩下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].start |
13795.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].end |
13797.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].text |
那另外從實質面的角度來看是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].start |
13798.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].end |
13800.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].text |
就帶一個問題一個問題來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].start |
13800.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].end |
13802.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].text |
第一個你可以確定就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].start |
13802.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].end |
13804.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].text |
所有的房東都收到錢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].start |
13804.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].end |
13806.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].text |
不會有房東收不到錢的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].start |
13806.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].end |
13807.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].text |
我不能說百分之百 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].start |
13807.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].end |
13808.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].text |
但是現在不會發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].start |
13808.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].end |
13809.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].text |
現在也沒發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].start |
13809.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].end |
13811.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].text |
剛剛你有回答沒發生過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].start |
13811.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].end |
13812.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].text |
就是說會不會發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].start |
13812.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].end |
13813.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].text |
預期接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].start |
13813.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].end |
13816.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].text |
除非出現了我們預料之外的一些狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].start |
13816.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].end |
13817.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].text |
但是本質上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].start |
13817.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].end |
13819.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].text |
有朝現在的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].start |
13819.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].end |
13822.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].text |
我們還是可以相對樂觀 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].start |
13822.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].end |
13823.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].text |
來看待說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].start |
13826.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].end |
13827.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].text |
那因為貸款的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].start |
13827.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].end |
13830.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].text |
貸款案其實是房東和房客之間的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].start |
13830.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].end |
13833.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].text |
業者完全沒有碰到那一筆租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].start |
13833.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].end |
13835.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].text |
所以那個部分本質上不會有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].start |
13835.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].end |
13837.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].text |
那是包租的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].start |
13837.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].end |
13839.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].text |
包租的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].start |
13839.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].end |
13840.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].text |
那押金的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].start |
13840.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].end |
13842.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].text |
押金其實也是一樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].start |
13842.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].end |
13846.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].text |
貸款案的也是房東直接拿房客的押金 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].start |
13846.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].end |
13848.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].text |
業者也不會碰那個押金 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].start |
13848.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].end |
13850.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].text |
那業者主要會碰到什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].start |
13850.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].end |
13852.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].text |
包租案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].start |
13852.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].end |
13853.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].text |
我講就是包租案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].start |
13853.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].end |
13855.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].text |
包租案會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].start |
13855.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].end |
13858.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].text |
業者付押金給原房東 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].start |
13858.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].end |
13861.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].text |
房客再付押金給業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].start |
13861.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].end |
13863.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].text |
這是兩份租約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].start |
13863.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].end |
13864.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].text |
我講的就是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].start |
13864.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].end |
13868.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].text |
那現在這兩筆錢其實是一樣大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].start |
13868.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].end |
13871.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].text |
所以說一旦業者把押金還給業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].start |
13871.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].end |
13874.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].text |
房東就有那筆錢可以還給房客 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].start |
13874.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].end |
13878.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].text |
那目前這筆錢也不在業者手上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].start |
13878.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].end |
13882.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].text |
因為那筆錢是房客拿給業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].start |
13882.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].end |
13883.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].text |
業者又拿給房東 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].start |
13883.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].end |
13885.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].text |
所以還是在房東身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].start |
13885.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].end |
13888.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].text |
對那是因為時間會有一個時間差 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].start |
13888.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].end |
13889.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].text |
會有一個時間差 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].start |
13889.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].end |
13891.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].text |
剛好有給的話就沒這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].start |
13891.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].end |
13892.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].text |
但如果有時間差 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].start |
13892.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].end |
13894.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].text |
所以第一個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].start |
13894.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].end |
13896.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].text |
你是說現在了解沒有發生狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].start |
13896.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].end |
13898.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].text |
至少就是房東房客權益不會受損 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].start |
13898.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].end |
13900.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].text |
第二個就是從這個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].start |
13900.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].end |
13902.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].text |
你可以了解到這個模式有一個風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].start |
13902.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].end |
13905.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].text |
那這家公司他可以做這個生意 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].start |
13905.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].end |
13907.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].text |
其實是因為配合政府的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].start |
13907.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].end |
13908.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].text |
才有辦法做這個生意 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].start |
13908.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].end |
13911.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].text |
那政府當然有責任保障房東房客的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].start |
13911.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].end |
13914.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].text |
所以你們應該會針對這個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].start |
13914.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].end |
13918.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].text |
然後去找到這個商業模式的一個漏洞的修補 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].start |
13918.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].end |
13920.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].text |
那大家什麼時候會提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].start |
13920.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].end |
13921.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].text |
我想我們會跟部裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].start |
13921.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].end |
13924.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].text |
跟業界一起來再精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].start |
13924.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].end |
13926.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].text |
因為這裡面有各種角度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].start |
13926.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].end |
13928.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].text |
你們大概預計什麼時候會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].start |
13928.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].end |
13929.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].text |
這個部分屬於政策的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].start |
13929.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].end |
13931.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].text |
現在都已經發生這樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].start |
13931.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].end |
13934.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].text |
然後我問你說你們有沒有警戒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].start |
13934.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].end |
13936.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].text |
然後我問你時針表你說不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].start |
13936.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].end |
13939.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].text |
因為大家覺得好像沒有很大意的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].start |
13939.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].end |
13942.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].text |
安定產業安定房東房客的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].start |
13942.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].end |
13943.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].text |
部長指示一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].start |
13943.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].end |
13944.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].start |
13944.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].end |
13946.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].text |
因為那個住租中心是行政法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].start |
13946.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].end |
13950.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].text |
那您提到的說以後未必要怎麼防避的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].start |
13950.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].end |
13953.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].text |
就是我們現在的租賃的租屋服務業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].start |
13953.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].end |
13956.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].text |
這個部分我們會來做比較好的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].start |
13956.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].end |
13959.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].text |
我知道我知道大概什麼時間表 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].start |
13959.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].end |
13961.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].text |
講一個大概的時間表 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].start |
13961.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].end |
13962.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].text |
跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].start |
13962.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].end |
13964.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].text |
因為我們現在也在收集國外的一些資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].start |
13964.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].end |
13965.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].text |
跟一些相關的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].start |
13965.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].end |
13969.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].text |
因為有些國家是用專戶管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].start |
13969.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].end |
13971.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].text |
就是押租金跟去用新托 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].start |
13971.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].end |
13973.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].text |
我相信你們的過程會很認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].start |
13973.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].end |
13975.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].text |
我直接問一個時間表 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].start |
13975.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].end |
13977.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].text |
我相信這個過程你們都會做好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].start |
13977.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].end |
13979.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].text |
發生這麼大的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].start |
13979.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].end |
13984.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].text |
我會不覺得內政部或住租中心會完全不理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].start |
13984.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].end |
13986.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].text |
但是就講一個時間表 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].start |
13986.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].end |
13990.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].text |
我們大概預計在三個月之內先找一些專家學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].start |
13990.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].end |
13992.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].text |
三個月才要找專家學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].start |
13992.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].end |
13994.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].text |
我以為三個月會有個結論出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].start |
13994.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].end |
13995.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].text |
報告委員這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].start |
13995.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].end |
13997.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].text |
我們不涉及修法的狀況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].start |
13997.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].end |
13999.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].text |
因為修法還是比較嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].start |
13999.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].end |
14000.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].text |
不涉及修法的狀況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].start |
14000.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].end |
14003.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].text |
如果有授權的這個執法或規定的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].start |
14003.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].end |
14007.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].text |
我們一個月會針對造基跟積極學所發生的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].start |
14007.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].end |
14008.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].text |
把漏洞先補起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].start |
14008.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].end |
14009.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].start |
14019.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].end |
14021.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].text |
登記質詢委員除不在場者外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].start |
14021.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].end |
14023.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].text |
其餘均以質詢完畢巡大結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].start |
14023.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].end |
14025.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].text |
委員高金素梅 傅芬琪 徐欣瑩 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].start |
14025.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].end |
14028.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].text |
所提書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].start |
14028.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].end |
14030.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].text |
書面質詢和未及答復部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].start |
14030.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].end |
14033.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].text |
請相關單位於一週內以書面答復並複製本會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].start |
14033.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].end |
14036.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].text |
本次議程處理完畢 現在上會 |