| IVOD_ID |
17662 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17662 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-12 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-12T08:35:21+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-12T11:26:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
02:50:39 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/b41997f390c3528eb63625e7fc6582d7483d86ceb2bf929bd4a54903b68e37ffa683edc8e58d59805ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第4次公聽會（事由：召開「財政部所屬泛公股金融機構，面對當前激烈競爭環境，如何擬訂泛公股合併之短中程策略與實施計畫」公聽會） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:35:21 - 11:26:00 |
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我只想說一句話 |
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1620 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
1622 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
我只想說一句話 |
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1622 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
1624 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
我只想說一句話 |
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1624 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
1626 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
1626 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
1628 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
我只想說一句話 |
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1628 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
1630 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
1630 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
1632 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
1632 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
1634 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
1634 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
1636 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
1636 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
1638 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
1638 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
1640 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
1640 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
1642 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
1642 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
1644 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
1644 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
1646 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
1646 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
1648 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
1648 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
1650 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
1650 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
1652 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
1652 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
1654 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
1654 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
1656 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
1656 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
1658 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
1658 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
1660 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
1660 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
1662 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
1662 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
1664 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
1664 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
1666 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
1666 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
1668 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
1668 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
1670 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
1670 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
1672 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
1672 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
1674 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
1674 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
1676 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
1676 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
1678 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
1678 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
1680 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
1680 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
1682 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
我只想說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
1683 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
1705.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
aved by leon |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
1708.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
1711.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
向委員會報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
1711.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
1715.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
我們今天的公聽會正式的開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
1715.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
1718.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
那麼歡迎今天綠林的學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
1718.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
1721.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
在場的委員、政府機關的代表來參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
1721.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
1725.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
財政部所屬泛公股金融機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
1725.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
1729.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
面對當前激烈競爭環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
1729.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
1733.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
如何擬定泛公股合併的短中長 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
1733.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
1738.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
短中程策略以實施計畫公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
1738.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
1744.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
那麼我二要的先表達一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
1744.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
1748.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
這次公聽會的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
1752.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
1758.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
我先表達一下今天公聽會的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
1758.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
1761.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
今天公聽會目的其實大家都了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
1761.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
1766.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
前陣子財政部花了快一百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
1766.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
1772.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
注資去取得國票金的一個控制權 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
1772.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
1776.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
在國票金的董事會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
1776.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
1781.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
史吾希董事、財政部的他的官股代表巴西 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
1781.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
1783.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
民股33億 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
1783.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
1787.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
所以財政部取得絕對的優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
1787.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
1789.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
外界就認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
1789.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
1791.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
那麼財政部這個舉動 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
1791.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
1794.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
當然是是不是要推動公共病 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
1794.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
1797.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
推動公共病就是今天公聽會的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
1797.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
1800.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
但是後來財政部語音不詳 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
1800.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
1803.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
那我就高度質疑了 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
1803.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
1805.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
如果你今天不推公共病 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
1805.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
1809.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
那你為什麼要注資這麼多錢到國票金 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
1809.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
1812.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
國票金是所有實際加金控裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
1812.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
1818.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
電底的績效最差、規模最小 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
1818.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
1822.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
現在我們看到的以為 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
1822.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
1824.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
現在要推公共病 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
1824.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
1826.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
提高我們泛公股 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
1826.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
1829.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
銀行、我們的金融機構的經營效率 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
1829.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
1831.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
但到現在為止沒有這個答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
1831.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
1833.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
等一下我們學士就在講完 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
1833.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
1835.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
以後再請財政部長把這個說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
1835.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
1837.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
講明白 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
1837.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
1839.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
我特別要提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
1839.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
1841.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
我是對事不對人 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
1841.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
1843.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
我們要看 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
1843.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
1846.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
現在他並不是泛公股了 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
1846.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
1849.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
今天所有的泛公股都到 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
1849.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
1854.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
包括華南金的林副董都到 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
1854.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
1861.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
我們來肯定他對我們立法院的尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
1861.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
1864.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
但是我要同時譴責 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
1864.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
1867.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
我們國票金的副董事長陳冠柱 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
1867.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
1869.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
他藐視國會 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
1869.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
1871.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
他的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
1871.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
1873.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
他請教的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
1873.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
1875.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
說要開董事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
1875.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
1879.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
我們國票金董事長張肇順就在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
1879.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
1882.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
他有跟我辦公室說 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
1882.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
1886.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
因為要開今天出席公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
1886.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
1890.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
所以他把董事會延到11點 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
1890.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
1893.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
這個我也肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
1893.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
1896.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
所以我現在就請財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
1896.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
1899.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
你是不是派員來通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
1899.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
1901.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
國票金的副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
1901.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
1903.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
請他要出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
1903.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
1905.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
請他練習 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
1905.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
1907.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
那個莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
1907.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
1909.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
你可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
1911.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
1913.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
對你會打 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
1913.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
1916.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
你請他到那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
1916.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
1918.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
他請教理由是要參加董事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
1918.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
1921.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
現在董事會不開了他為什麼可以不來 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
1921.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
1923.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
1923.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
1925.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
就我所知 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
1925.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
1929.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
今天的公聽會是由我們財委會發通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
1929.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
1930.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
做邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
1930.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
1933.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
那至於陳副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
1933.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
1936.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
他是按照程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
1936.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
1939.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
是按照向召委請假的 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
1939.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
1941.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
那至於要不要再邀請他來 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
1941.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
1943.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
我想這個是由召委來決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
1943.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
1945.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
而不是由財政部來決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
1945.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
1948.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
因為是委員會請的 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
1948.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
1950.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
那如果說他也經過請假 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
1950.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
1952.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
經過召委同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
1952.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
1954.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
那現在要不要再邀請他來 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
1954.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
1957.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
由召委這邊議會來做決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
1957.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
1959.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
召委是召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
1959.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
1961.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
今天主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
1961.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
1963.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
我就以主席的身份了 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
1963.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
1966.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
我們請財政部官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
1966.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
1968.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
特別是國務處長能不能打個電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
1968.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
1970.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
跟警府董事長到 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
1970.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
1972.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
1972.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
1974.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
他的理由他請教的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
1974.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
1976.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
我所了解的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
1976.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
1979.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
參加今天的國票競爭董事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
1979.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
1981.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
可是董事會沒有開 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
1981.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
1983.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
董事長在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
1983.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
1985.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
那個張照尊董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
1985.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
1987.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
董事長要不要講一下你們幾點開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
1987.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
1989.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
董事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
1989.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
1991.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
張董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
1991.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
1993.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
十一點半開董事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
1993.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
1995.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
1995.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
1997.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
所以他請教理由是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
1997.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
1999.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
那我今天雖然我不是召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
1999.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
2001.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
可是我今天是主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
2001.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
2005.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
我今天有一定的一個角色扮演 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
2005.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
2007.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
這個角色扮演就是我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
2007.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
2011.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
所有的專攻股的總總 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
2011.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
2014.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
以及我們財政部支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
2014.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
2018.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
這些的董事長副董事長總經理都到 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
2018.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
2021.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
來提一提我們要談的 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
2021.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
2023.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
這個公共病的相關的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
2023.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
2025.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
所以是不是請財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
2025.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
2029.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
你請陳處長你打個電話給陳副董 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
2029.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
2030.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
請他到好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
2030.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
2032.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
他可以不到沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
2032.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
2034.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
你就跟我回應說他不到好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
2034.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
2036.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
你再打個電話可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
2045.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
2047.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
主席的意見我們尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
2047.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
2050.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
那是不是可以請董事長張董事長打電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
2050.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
2052.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
我沒有跟他有電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
2052.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
2055.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
好吧那張董事長你就打吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
2055.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
2060.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
張董事長你他請教的理由是因為參加董事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
2060.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
2062.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
董事會十一點半才開 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
2062.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
2064.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
所以不是理由好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
2064.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
2066.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
可以嗎張董問可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
2068.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
2070.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
可以吧你去打一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
2075.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
2078.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
我已經講他請教理由我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
2078.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
2081.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
就是參加董事會嘛現在沒有董事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
2082.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
2084.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
沒有董事會我們怎麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
2085.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
2086.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
你回去打電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
2086.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
2088.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
他可以說不來沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
2088.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
2090.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
就是再讓他拒絕一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
2090.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
2091.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
就這樣子好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
2091.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
2094.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
這個我是提醒財政部和總部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
2094.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
2096.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
我知道你為難了 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
2096.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
2098.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
你一足一百億也不是你決定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
2098.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
2100.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
有更高層決定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
2100.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
2102.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
這裡面我很擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
2102.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
2105.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
如果不推動公共病的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
2105.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
2110.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
就變成過去二次精改的翻版 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
2110.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
2113.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
就政府白白的授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
2113.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
2116.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
圖利特定的財團 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
2116.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
2118.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
這個帽子很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
2118.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
2122.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
這個是簡單跟各位討論的提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
2122.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
2124.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
跟各位做這樣的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
2124.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
2127.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
我們希望除了兩個票金 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
2127.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
2129.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
除了兩個票金是不是跟張銀合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
2129.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
2132.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
或者跟其他金融區合併之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
2132.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
2134.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
其他有關公共病的題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
2134.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
2136.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
大家可以一起來談 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
2136.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
2140.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
我介紹今天出席的貴賓五位學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
2140.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
2143.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
首先要按照新聞順序 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
2143.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
2147.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
台北商業大學的黃啟瑞院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
2150.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
2154.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
第二位是中央大學財務金融系的 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
2154.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
2157.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
黃瑞卿教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
2159.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
2163.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
第三位是台北大學科技系的 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
2163.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
2167.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
王逸興教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
2168.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
2174.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
第四位是台銀工會的林理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
2175.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
2179.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
第五位是銀銀銀行工會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
2179.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
2183.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
第六位是金融工會的陳理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
2185.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
2189.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
第六位是全國金融業工業聯合總會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
2189.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
2191.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
鍾理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
2194.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
2201.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
第七位是華人金控工會的王理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
2202.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
2207.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
以及聯合聯合的機關代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
2207.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
2210.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
財政部的莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
2211.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
2215.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
以及國共署的陳署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
2216.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
2220.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
台銀金控的林董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
2223.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
2226.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
施總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
2227.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
2230.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
以及土銀的何董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
2231.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
2234.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
以及張總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
2235.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
2241.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
以及趙峰金控的董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
2243.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
2245.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
張總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
2247.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
2250.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
以及第一金控的邱董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
2251.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
2253.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
方總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
2254.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
2258.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
華南金控的陳董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
2260.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
2263.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
林副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
2264.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
2268.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
華南金控的林副董事長我再次肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
2268.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
2271.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
他是副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
2271.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
2273.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
按照財政部長講法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
2273.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
2276.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
事實上他今天好像很有權利不要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
2276.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
2278.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
但是他今天尊重我們立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
2278.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
2280.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
我可以肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
2280.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
2283.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
希望以後歷史的請你來看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
2284.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
2286.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
以後你的觀眾越來越大了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
2286.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
2287.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
聲音越來越大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
2287.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
2289.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
祝福 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
2289.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
2292.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
邱總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
2294.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
2297.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
合作金庫的林董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
2299.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
2301.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
蘇總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
2303.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
2306.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
以及張愛銀行的胡董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
2307.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
2310.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
簡總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
2311.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
2314.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
以及周曉慶的李董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
2316.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
2318.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
李總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
2320.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
2323.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
蘇出路營養的戴主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
2325.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
2327.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
謝總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
2329.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
2334.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
以及董事長 |
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副董事長請假 |
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讓我們聯絡 |
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看他最後決定怎麼樣 |
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吳總經理 |
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吳總經理 |
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還有金管會的彭主委 |
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銀行局的局長 |
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是統區長 |
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以及公平交易委員會的專門委員 |
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專門委員 邱專門委員 |
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我們現在就 |
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我們原則上 |
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每位專家學者8分鐘 |
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結束前1分鐘 |
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按鈴提醒 |
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依照專家學者的簽到順序發言 |
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委員有需要可以到發言台來登記 |
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我們會插進適度的位置 |
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我們還有委員 |
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劉淑斌委員 |
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委員可以發言每1分鐘 |
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全部發言以後請 |
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我們今天請財政部跟金管會 |
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就全責整體的回應 |
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現在請第一位學者專家黃啟瑞 |
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發表意見請 |
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主席還有莊部長彭主委 |
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各位董總 各位媒體先進 |
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還有我們專家學者 |
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大家好 大家早安 |
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這個放暑假看到這麼多人 |
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滿興奮 滿開心的這樣 |
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那大家一起為這個 |
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我們財政部泛公股金融機構 |
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面對競爭的這個競爭環境 |
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那研擬更好的這個合作 |
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合作跟環境 |
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研擬更好的這個合併 |
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或者提升競爭力的方法 |
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我覺得這個非常重要 |
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那也是很好的場合 |
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大家可以齊聚一堂 |
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思考更好的這個作為跟方法 |
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針對這邊提出來的三大議題 |
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分別這邊做一個報告 |
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那也誠如剛剛各位桌上的書面資料 |
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那有2頁這邊做一個簡單的整理 |
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那我就只有這裡面的內容 |
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分別針對三大議題做一個簡單的報告 |
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那首先當然提升競爭力 |
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提升股東價值是非常重要的事情 |
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特別在這幾年來 |
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那不管在這個民營金控 |
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透過併購成長快速的擴張 |
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那加上最近的這個金融科技 |
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AI 財富管理跨境 |
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國際金融市場競爭越來越激烈 |
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那當然這個成長的方式非常多元 |
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有很多種 |
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那併購是其中一樣 |
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那如果成功的話 |
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可以有效的聚積資本 |
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讓我們的收入更多元 |
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那數位轉型國際競爭力 |
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都有機會能夠提升 |
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那不過我們從學理上 |
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從理論上來看的話 |
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那有兩個非常重要的前提 |
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要能夠落實 |
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才有機會發揮這些正面的效益 |
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那當然第一大類型 |
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第一個部分就是 |
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要能夠創造收入方面的互補性跟忠孝 |
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然後才能夠讓我們的這個純益收入 |
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可以有效的提升 |
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那第二部分 |
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當然透過我們的這個併購 |
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那併購的同時性的這個部分 |
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有機會發揮規模經濟或範疇經濟 |
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讓我們的這個經營成本可以下降 |
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那接下來切入這個三個主題的部分 |
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那第一個就是怎樣能夠增加 |
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大家最關心的就是忠孝的部分 |
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那經營效率可以1加1大於2大於3 |
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那這部分 |
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這部分當然在我們財務的健全性 |
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業務的互補性 |
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這部分要做一些評估 |
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那有關在不管在資產管理 |
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在信用卡在投信在資安在這個數據或後台 |
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如果有沒有機會 |
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剛剛講到的 |
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除了收入方面的這個能夠互補性的 |
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能夠找出來 |
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那成本的部分 |
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這些有沒有可以一起透過合併的來降低成本 |
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那這個部分應該在可能在短期內 |
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可能在一年到兩年的期間 |
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可能要做一些比較深度的研究 |
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那如果有這個可行性的話 |
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接著針對客群產品通路 |
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科技或海外互補的這些標的 |
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那再來做評估 |
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去拓展這個財富管理投資銀行或資產管理 |
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國際化等等的 |
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除了傳統的這個放款借貸的收入以外 |
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可以增加更多的其他非利息收入的這些業務項目 |
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那當然不只是看規模的這個水平橫向的擴大 |
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那整併後到底能不能在各項的KPI |
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在這個不管在ROE、ROA |
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在收入在成本收入比非利息收入等等 |
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這些還有我們這個資本健全性 |
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跟資產的這個效率的部分 |
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能夠一併的評估 |
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那當然最後還有這個資訊系統 |
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跟我們這個不同的金融機構 |
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不同的文化再整合的部分 |
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那這個產生的一些交易成本也要考慮進來 |
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那第二部分 |
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中校這個第一關 |
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那第二關的部分當然就很重要的 |
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我們員工權益的保障 |
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讓我們員工的公會的這部分能夠參與 |
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那相關的這個制度相關的規範 |
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有些已經進入這個我們在 |
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立院實施審查的這些法案 |
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能夠有效率的進行 |
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包括我們的這個員工的這個不確定性 |
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組織的文化的衝突性等等的 |
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那在我們的這個權益能夠在 |
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獲到保障的前提下 |
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包括我們的就業年資的保障 |
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包括我們退休 |
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還有這個薪資福利調動等等 |
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這些是過渡性的安排 |
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那當然還有包括我們人才的留任跟轉任 |
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那特別是對這個IT資安風管財管 |
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還有財外法尊的這些關鍵人才的留任機制 |
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那另外就是如果有 |
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因為節省下來的人力 |
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那怎麼樣受過北訓再轉入 |
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未來比較重要的成長關鍵領域 |
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包括AI包括數位 |
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我們重要的財管 |
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像現在在金管會這個很有效率 |
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在推動的這個亞資中心等等 |
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還有永續金融 |
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這個都需要滿這個高階的人力來做投入 |
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那有關於第三個提綱的部分 |
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怎麼樣保障我們少數股東跟公股的資產 |
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那這個部分 |
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不管是在交易價格 |
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換股比 忠孝等等的 |
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這些當然也要符合公平專業管理 |
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還有這個股東權益保障的這些原則 |
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那多元去評估 |
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那公平性這部分 |
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公平這個有沒有超過 |
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就是公平交易法 |
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公平交易法的這個獨佔的這個部分 |
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當然也是要去評估的 |
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那所以簡單我們這邊做個整理 |
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就是在忠孝的部分 |
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在員工權益的部分 |
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少數股東的保障 |
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然後還有最後金融穩定性 |
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金融韌性的這個部分 |
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也要能夠經得起考驗 |
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那特別是在不同的這個金融機構的整併的過程 |
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那資訊系統的轉換 |
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能不能順利 |
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不要在資安的部分 |
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或是營運的部分的風險能夠管控在一定的程度 |
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那當然這些都需要非常多的這個分析跟評估 |
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那這個也需要花費很多的這個精力來做規劃 |
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那最後當然 |
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在我們再講到這些事情 |
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能夠順利能夠做好一定的評估的話 |
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那併購當然是一個我們公股或是公股或泛公股 |
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在成長非常重要的一個途徑跟路徑 |
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那最後當然在提升我們這個公股的競爭力的同時 |
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最後我想用一個我們在學校裡頭觀察到了一個趨勢 |
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做一個簡單的分享 |
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那當然我們剛剛談到這麼多 |
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那金融機構要獲利不只在民股 |
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這個這個民營也一樣 |
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那這個要經營這些人才是最重要的 |
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那人才制度薪資結構 |
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那這部分可能要做一個比較徹底的評估 |
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以上謝謝各位謝謝 |
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謝謝黃院長的說明 |
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現在請中央大學財經系的黃瑞欣教授請 |
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好主席 |
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各位先進大家好 |
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我是中央大學財經系的主任黃瑞欣 |
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那今天非常榮幸可以在這邊跟大家分享一下 |
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那我對於這個M&A相關的這個了解 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
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那今天因為有很多的這個學者專家 |
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那時間也很有限 |
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所以呢今天呢這個三個學者專家 |
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我們會做一個分享 |
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那時間也很有限 |
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所以呢今天呢這個三個主要大的議題裡面 |
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我想我就依照第一項的這個議題來跟大家分享 |
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跟大家報告 |
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也就是說怎麼樣透過詬病的程序來強化 |
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泛公股金融機構的競爭力 |
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那我想大家都同意我們現在的這個金融機構 |
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面臨到非常嚴峻的挑戰 |
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那第一個挑戰我想就是規模經濟的問題 |
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我們也看到民營股的銀行或者是金融機構 |
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他們在最近幾年進行大幅的這個大動作的這個整並 |
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那關股銀行是不是可以透過這個我們的規模 |
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然後來獲得更好的競爭力 |
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那這個規模經濟呢在學界裡面都認為說 |
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這個是在金融機構裡面非常重要的一個競爭力的來源 |
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所以我想這個關股呢 |
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是不是能夠擴大規模這是很重要的 |
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第二個是有關於數位轉型的部分 |
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那現在全世界都在做Fintech |
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或者是AI或是資安相關的這個議題 |
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那關股呢這個部分也不能夠落後 |
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第三個就是全球的佈局 |
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那這個部分我們不用多說 |
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就是怎麼樣來提升跨境的金融的這個服務的能力 |
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還有最後就是範疇經濟 |
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也就是我們在對於這個這個財富管理的部分 |
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我們怎麼樣來進行強化 |
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那可是從我們這裡看得出來是說 |
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我們關股想要來最重要的挑戰是要來提升競爭力 |
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合併呢應該是我們的手段是一個工具 |
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那它不是唯一的工具 |
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但是它是一個蠻不錯的我們可以思考的工具 |
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那第二件事情我們想要看的事情是說 |
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那這個整併呢我們應該 |
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我們不應該問是說要還是不要 |
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而是應該先問值不值得 |
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譬如說它是不是能夠提升我們的最重要的目標 |
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就是提升關股的競爭力 |
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再來關股呢還有第二件事情非常的重要 |
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因為我們有廣大的納稅的這個納稅人民在我們的背後 |
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所以呢是否能夠提升納稅義務人的利益 |
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這個是我們需要來考慮的 |
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第三個當然我們還有我們背後的這個股東 |
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因為很多的關股其實都是上市公司 |
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上市公司要對我們的股東負責 |
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最後一件事情就是這個詬病是不是具有可執行性 |
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這個是在詬病是否能夠成功一個很重要的因素 |
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所以我個人認為是說這四件條件呢 |
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如果沒有辦法同時成立的時候 |
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我們可以審慎的評估 |
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那關股在詬病的時候有沒有什麼重要的原則呢 |
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我個人覺得可能有五項的原則可以參考一下 |
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第一個呢我們可以用策略來互補 |
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不是說大的公司要併小的公司 |
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而是我們在策略發展上面 |
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我們怎麼樣來讓我們的競爭力彼此的提升 |
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第二個呢所有的詬病案其實都應該尊重專業 |
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因為M&A是一個非常專業的問題 |
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所以呢它的成本效益分析要做好 |
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第三個呢就是不應該為因為 |
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我們要做M&A來犧牲公司治理 |
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公司治理是公司營運永續下去最重要的一個重要的因素 |
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第四個呢就是我們需要兼顧員工小股東跟納稅人的權益 |
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最後一個很重要就是要能夠建立透明的決策的程序 |
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那這個詬病的評估制度裡面呢 |
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我想這個是很標準的就是我們要建立目標 |
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進行這個成本效益的分析 |
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然後呢公司治理的評估 |
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還有剛剛黃院長提到的這個公平競爭的問題 |
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我們會不會因為M&A之後使得市場的這個競爭性受到扭曲 |
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還有呢就是社會成本的分析 |
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再來決定是否要進行整病 |
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那既然是學者專家 |
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所以我想我整理了一個文獻 |
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那這個文獻呢是刊登在一個國際上面非常好的財務的期刊 |
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這個文章裡面它整理了超過150篇的國際上面的論文 |
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然後它來整理說那個病會成功還是失敗的主要的原因有哪一些 |
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那發現有三點是非常重要的成功的因素 |
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第一個就是公司治理 |
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那公司治理裡面包含就是股東的監督的能力 |
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像光谷裡面我們的財政部的監督能力 |
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還有就是各位董總我們所設立的這個董事會 |
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它的制度是否健全 |
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那當然CEO也很重要 |
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那我們的CEO是不是overconfident |
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或者是它的風險態度也會影響到這個部分 |
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第二個是策略的配置性 |
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譬如說整個發展策略是否具有相容性 |
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還有企業的文化 |
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所以像公民病的話我們需要考慮 |
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因為我們的公股銀行跟民營銀行或者是說金融機構 |
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它的企業文化有比較大的差異性 |
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所以需要審慎的評估 |
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第三個就是整合能力 |
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所以像我們提到的IT的整合能力 |
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像一個詬病是否能夠有快速的完成 |
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IT非常重要 |
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還有人才的整合 |
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也就是薪資制度的一個整合 |
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我想這個是相當重要的問題 |
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那另外一個論文他有提到是說 |
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這個金融的整病它的真正的縱效是來自於revenue的synergy |
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也就是說整個的收益的擴展 |
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那成本的下降可能並不是一個主要的synergy |
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那為什麼會失敗呢 |
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那學者專家也整理了兩個重要的原因 |
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一個就是連續的詬病 |
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那連續的詬病會造成管理資源的被分散 |
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然後沒有辦法從第一次或是前一次的交易獲得我們的經驗 |
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所以整合能力會下降 |
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那現在我們曉得說公股正在進行 |
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我們在討論這個有一部分的整病的問題 |
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四合一的問題 |
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那是不是要在這個時間點來啟動 |
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在這個時間點來啟動下一次的M&A是需要考慮的 |
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我們或許可以等到這個未來 |
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在這一次的M&A的經驗得到好的結果之後 |
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再來想下一次的這個詬病的情況 |
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第二個是非核心業務的整病 |
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非核心業務指的是說每一個 |
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其實像在座的每一個官股 |
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都有自己的核心的競爭能力 |
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那這個核心的競爭能力呢 |
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是否我們需要讓每一個公股的這個 |
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我們的這個金控 |
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每一個子公司都有嗎 |
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每一個方選都需要有嗎 |
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其實是不一定的 |
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因為在非核心的業務的整病 |
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如果有他其實是有困難的 |
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就是說整病的困難 |
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那所以最後呢 |
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再回應到我們這個問題 |
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怎麼樣透過這個詬病的程序來強化 |
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這個金融公股的金融機構的競爭能力 |
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大概有三點 |
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第一個應該是要先健全 |
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各個公司的公司治理的能力 |
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這個是重要的 |
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第二個是提升資訊的整合能力 |
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我們現在就可以做 |
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在透過一個這個共同的平台 |
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來進行資訊的整合 |
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來提升未來可能M&A的成功的機率 |
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第三個就是要避免平凡的詬病 |
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所以我們應該要做的是 |
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這樣的話 |
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這樣子的話 |
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我們的未來這個M&A的 |
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我們的這個光股的競爭力才可以提升 |
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最後還是要非常感謝這個大會的邀請 |
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讓我這邊可以跟大家報告我的心得 |
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那以上謝謝大家 |
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謝謝黃主任黃教授的發言 |
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下一位請特別關心系的王怡心教授 |
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王怡心教授請 |
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今天大會的主席賴委員 |
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還有我們立法委員劉委員 |
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然後財政部莊部長 |
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經委會彭主委 |
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還有各位長官 |
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還有我們今天這麼多金控的董事長 |
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跟總經理學者專家 |
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媒體先生小姐大家早安大家好 |
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那我想在這個黃院長 |
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跟黃主任的發言 |
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還有我們今天這麼多的經理 |
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還有我們今天這麼多的經理 |
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還有我們今天這麼多的經理 |
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那在這個黃院長跟黃主任之後 |
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發言其實也蠻緊張的 |
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因為他們該講都講了 |
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那我就從三個 |
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因為三題嘛 |
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我就從三個重點來報告 |
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那我想第一個等於說 |
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我會從這個經營績效 |
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跟這個併購策略 |
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這是我要談的第一論述 |
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然後第二論述我要談的是 |
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勞工權益跟原本治理 |
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那第三我要談的論述是 |
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資產價值跟股東權益 |
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那首先我先談這個 |
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經營績效跟併購的這個策略 |
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基本上這個我個人的立場 |
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在今天參加這場公聽會 |
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我的立場是支持公共病 |
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那我想這跟今天主席 |
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開始的定的調也是相同的 |
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那為什麼因為我自己 |
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在第一金代表財政部 |
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當官股董事 |
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也歷經了六任的董事長 |
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所以對這個公聽會 |
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所以在這個官股推動的時候 |
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那在這個經營策略上 |
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其實我建議說可以從這個 |
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功能性的整併開始 |
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那譬如說報章雜誌講了很多 |
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可以從這個創投啦 |
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或是從投信啊 |
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這種各個這個官股裡面 |
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這個金控比較小的這個子公司 |
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先看功能性能不能整併 |
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那我現在就先談到 |
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這個經營策略 |
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那我先談到 |
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先看功能性能不能整併 |
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尤其可以從後勤的 |
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這些資訊系統 |
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跟這財務上就是 |
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人事上的訓練先開始整併 |
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那大家融合以後 |
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再去走大的 |
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那再來就是說 |
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因為整併談到資產的這個 |
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這個公允價值 |
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所以呢其實過去 |
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不管是什麼樣的病 |
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所以公司病都很多詬病 |
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就是說這個 |
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私是以小吃大 |
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明明看這個私的這個企業這麼小 |
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我工的這麼大 |
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為什麼還被他病呢 |
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重點在私人企業 |
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他已經用公允價值 |
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現在價值評價過 |
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那公家都是用歷史成本 |
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所以公家怎麼算都會 |
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低於這個限值 |
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因為你十年前的一塊錢 |
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跟今天是不一樣的 |
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所以這我知道支持就是說 |
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請大家支持我們快援基金會的 |
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公允價值他們評價準則 |
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把它做好 |
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那再來就是我們要 |
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防止這個資產賤賣 |
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這個是很重要因為如果公允價值 |
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透明那我覺得這樣子 |
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併購策略就有一些基礎 |
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那因為員工 |
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主管 |
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都是公司的資產 |
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所以我第二個論述是 |
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勞工的權益跟原本的治理 |
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所以呢我們要有制度化的 |
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這個安置 |
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透明的永續揭露 |
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那首先我們等於說 |
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針對 |
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我們勞工的工作權 |
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我們要先盤點 |
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我們到底有多少人才 |
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然後再盤點哪些人想 |
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這個優退 |
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那哪些人要留任 |
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那把這些優退的怎麼把它辦好 |
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那留任怎麼讓留任 |
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那再來就是說 |
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我們針對這個新的 |
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組織以後 |
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我們董事會是不是能設一席 |
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勞工董事 |
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讓他也代表勞工 |
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來表達他的意見 |
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同時呢我們因為 |
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要併就是要有競爭力 |
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尤其在這個AI數位 |
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金融時代真是需要 |
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一些優秀人才 |
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那優秀人才沒有給他好的條件 |
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是不可能的 |
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所以在薪資上也不要設那種 |
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很奇怪的天花板 |
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要符合國際市場行情 |
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的薪水 |
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他只要辦得到 |
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那你就要給他合理待遇 |
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天平兩邊秤才會永續 |
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那第三個也就是 |
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從今年叫做 |
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永續元年 |
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所以這個資本額100以上公司 |
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明年三月份年報 |
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就永續專章 |
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我想彭主委在這邊非常熟 |
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這部分 |
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所以我們今天金控幾乎都是 |
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第一階的公司 |
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所以我們永續專章上就要揭露 |
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你的這些併購策略 |
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你怎麼善待你的員工 |
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你怎麼未來的部分 |
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你今年寫明年的 |
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那到明年我們就看你有沒有在做 |
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所以永續的這條路上 |
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是大家要把話說清楚 |
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講明白落實來做 |
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所以我們倡議的是 |
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永續行動化跟永續財務化 |
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第三個論述 |
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我要談的是 |
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資產價值跟股東權益 |
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因為我前面就說 |
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我們的資產要經過 |
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公允價值的一個評論 |
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符合市場的需求 |
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所以我們在 |
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不動產部分 |
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要把市值算清楚 |
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現在有AI的時代 |
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而且資訊比較透明是比較容易的 |
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不像早期這麼不容易 |
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而且現在評價的準則 |
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不管是有形資產 |
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無形資產 |
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都有很好的基礎可以來算 |
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再來等於說 |
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我們對股東 |
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也要公平對待 |
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我們要算是股東權益 |
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比例要很清楚 |
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我們可以聘請會計師 |
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依據審計 |
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確診準則 |
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來做合理的查核 |
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再來就是說 |
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我們等於勞資雙方的溝通 |
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大家保持暢通的溝通 |
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才能永續 |
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所以再次強調 |
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我們要保持公公病 |
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但是要有好的併供策略 |
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要善待員工 |
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有好的安排 |
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最後我希望說資產價值跟股東權益 |
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都受到保障 |
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謝謝大家 |
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謝謝王教授 |
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的一個分析 |
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現在請劉書斌委員 |
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立委 |
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主席 |
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各位學者專家 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
各位政府官員大家早安 |
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今天 |
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3780.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
討論泛公股金融 |
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機構合併的問題 |
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我認為不能只問 |
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要不要公公病 |
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更要先問財政部 |
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到底準備如何治理 |
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泛公股 |
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國票金就是最好的試金石 |
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今年五月 |
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國票金董事改選 |
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十五席董事當中 |
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公股取得八席 |
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正式掌握經營主導權 |
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這也是 |
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台灣少見由民營金控 |
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轉為泛公股主導 |
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的案例 |
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問題是公股拿到經營權 |
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以後我們看到的是 |
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改革還是延續 |
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過去的利益繼續呢 |
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國票金 |
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在國內金控 |
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金控當中規模相對是小的 |
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又缺乏 |
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最重要的商業銀行 |
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這一塊的拼圖 |
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長期受到 |
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發展限制 |
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過去曾經推動併購安泰銀行 |
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最後沒有成功 |
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如今公股取得主導權 |
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現在應該是 |
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重新檢討公司 |
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治理改善治理 |
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的時機了 |
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體質的時機了 |
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但是公股進場之後 |
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今天引發爭議的竟然是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
副董事長人士及 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
3860.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
高薪領酬的問題 |
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外界質疑 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
3864.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
國票金副董事長年薪 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
超過兩千萬元 |
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遠高於許多大型 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
公股金融機構的董事長 |
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我想現在在場的很多公股的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
董事長是不是能心服呢 |
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我要問財政部 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
既然公股已經主導了 |
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董事會為什麼沒有趁 |
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這個機會重新檢討 |
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董事長的設置的必要性 |
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職權跟薪酬 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
3888.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
財政部不能一方面 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
動用犯公股 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
近百億的資金 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
取得經營權 |
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3896.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
另一方面遇到監督 |
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3896.28 |
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3898.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
問題又說國票金 |
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不是財政部 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
直接的投資事業 |
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3904.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
要尊重公司治理 |
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3906.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
這樣就變成 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
3908.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
要經營權時是公股 |
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3910.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
要負責時變成民營 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
這不是人民期待的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
犯公股的治理 |
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3916.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
第二 |
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3918.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
我們支持金融機構透過整併 |
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3918.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
3920.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
提升規模與競爭力 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
3922.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
但是本席認為 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
不能為了公公併三個字而併 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
財政部今天 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
3928.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
提出了尊重市場機制 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
利害關係人合意 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
綜合績效優先 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
三大原則 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
我們基本上認同 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
但是我必須要再加上一項 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
公共利益 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
到底是由誰來併 |
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國票金 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
是聽到下面的 |
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是張銀第一金 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
招風金還是其他公股機構 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
這不能用政治決定 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
而是要提出客觀的評估 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
國票金最大的問題 |
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是缺乏銀行通路 |
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因此整併必須回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
三個問題 |
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第一能不能補足銀行業務及通路 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
能不能降低重複成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
3968.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
3970.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
提升股東權益報酬率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
3970.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
3972.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
ROE與美股的盈餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
3972.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
3974.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
EPS |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
3974.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
3976.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
第三 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
能不能擴大規模 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
3978.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
3980.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
提高國際競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
如果答案都是否定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
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那就沒有必要為併而併 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
我要提醒財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
3986.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
3988.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
金管會已經說得很清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
3988.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
3990.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
金融整併 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
3990.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
3992.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
由業者依公私 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
治理來決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
3996.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
3996.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
3998.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
泛公股涉及公股股權處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
3998.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
4000.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
財政部不能把這個球 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
4000.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
再丟給金管會了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
4004.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
因此本席提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
4006.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
三點訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
希望財政部三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
4008.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
4010.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
提出泛公股金融機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
4010.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
4012.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
治理準則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
4012.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
4014.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
明確的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
4016.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
董事判認 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
高階薪酬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
4018.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
4020.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
績效考核及重大投資決策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
4020.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
4022.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
4022.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
4024.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
全面檢討國票金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
4024.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
4026.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
付董事長的職位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
4026.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
4028.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
薪酬與績效的連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
4028.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
不能讓泛公股成為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
4032.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
監督的灰色地帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
4034.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
第三 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
4036.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
半年內提出國票金整併的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
可行性評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
公開比較不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
4042.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
公股機構整併的成本 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
綜合績效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
4046.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
股東權益及公會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
4048.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
與員工的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
4050.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
尤其是員工的薪資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
4052.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
國民應該具備合理的競爭性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
4052.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
4054.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
才能留住人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
4054.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
4056.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
來維持公股銀行的競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
4058.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
4060.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
本席支持金融整併 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
4062.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
但我們要的是專業整併 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
不是政治整併 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
要的是提升競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
4068.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
不是重新分配位子 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
既然政府取得國票金主導權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
就必須向全民交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
拿到經營權之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
4076.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
究竟要把國票金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
4078.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
帶到哪裡去 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
4080.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
政府委員會會繼續來監督這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
4108.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
4122.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
主席賴委員以及我們部長還有主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
4126.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
以及各位董總大家早安大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
4128.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
4134.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
今天我們來講到這個公股合併的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
4134.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
4136.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
說實在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
4136.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
4140.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
今天台灣人如果跟台人合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
4140.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
4142.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
叫台灣台人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
4146.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
今天如果是台灣人來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
4146.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
4150.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
讓台人和平的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
4150.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
4154.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
今天我們絕對拉雙手 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
4154.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
4156.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
雙腳搬命也大行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
4156.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
4158.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
因為我們的財務福利比他們差 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
4158.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
4162.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
如果今天他們要讓台人併 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
4162.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
4164.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
他們的工會一定反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
4164.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
4170.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
他們的薪水從20萬來減到10萬他們一定不要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
4170.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
4172.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
你說變得問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
4172.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
4174.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
這個是最大問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
4174.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
4176.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
要怎麼進去講到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
4176.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
4182.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
其實今年一個放工股的公會的理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
4182.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
4184.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
他退休的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
4184.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
4186.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
他說他一國的薪水20萬多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
4186.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
4190.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
我說蛤你的薪水比我們董事長還要多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
4190.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
4192.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
我們董事長一國的沒有到20萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
4192.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
4194.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
你有20萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
4194.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
4196.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
21萬多這樣子的話合理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
4196.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
4202.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
今天我們董總雖然是我們官派來我們這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
4202.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
4206.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
來台灣金控當董總 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
4206.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
4208.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
但是他所負的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
4208.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
4214.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
會比一般的放工股銀行還有民營銀行的責任低嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
4214.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
4216.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
沒有他的職業也是一樣很重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
4216.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
4222.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
他要付所有銀行所有盈餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
4222.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
4224.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
還有一些作業風險上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
4224.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
4226.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
他負的責任是非常大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
4226.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
4228.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
結果他的薪水一國沒有到20萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
4228.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
4230.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
這樣子的話應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
4230.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
4232.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
我是認為一站在公會的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
4232.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
4236.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
是要把董總薪資的拉高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
4236.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
4238.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
因為你負重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
4238.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
4244.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
再來我們要單位主管以及員工的待遇及福利才會提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
4244.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
4250.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
沒有你沒辦法去優管大家同仁的福利以及待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
4250.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
4254.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
再來我們來看一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
4256.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
4258.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
我們一個薪資制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
4258.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
4262.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
今天我們台灣銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
4262.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
4268.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
我們就是調薪的時候就是沒有一個非常嚴謹 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
4268.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
4272.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
因為沒辦法就是每兩年要檢討錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
4272.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
4274.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
就是每兩年要檢討一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
4274.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
4278.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
檢討一次是要符合你的指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
4278.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
4280.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
我們才能調薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
4280.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
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這樣子的話對我們非常不合理 |
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你放工股銀行他們就是市場公司的績效 |
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他們如果有賺錢他們再經過當事會 |
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以及銀行委員會他們同意的話 |
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他們就可以調薪 |
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這是對我們台銀來講非常不合理 |
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因為如果說調薪 |
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政府一直認為我們就是跟他一樣公務人員 |
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但是我們已經是薪資跟公務人員的薪資脫鉤 |
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我們也是一個我們現在也是兼勞工身分 |
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但是不能一直把我們當作我們也是公務人員 |
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跟我們比 |
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變成說調薪在108、109年有一個新知其一化 |
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調薪那兩年剛好剛好去跟銀行比比比 |
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比到輸出的銀行他的薪水比我們高 |
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所以那時候就去跟他比 |
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但是那兩年的調薪結果在財政部一直認為 |
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那兩年的調薪就計算在內 |
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我們調薪比他們公務人員還多 |
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比財政部還多 |
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所以變成說我們調薪 |
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現在還要送調薪兩年剛好一次 |
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現在公務人員因為現在是看我們GBT |
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我們的國家你拿GBT超過多少就可以調薪 |
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而我們兩年剛好一次我們這樣已經會跟不上 |
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已經對不住你現在公務人員的調薪 |
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希望可以說要怎麼去留財留一些好的人才 |
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現在我們的每年的科企 |
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每年的科企你看現在報考率逐年下降 |
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入取率逐年提高 |
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今年已經到18% |
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你說大家離職才新入職的人離職率算比退休的人多 |
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這樣你說一些人才會留住嗎 |
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再來一個銀行的一些作業風險會漸漸的提高 |
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但是你結果金管委現在也一直認為 |
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我們銀行的治理就是要監理 |
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為什麼沒有監理到發生事情 |
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發生事情現在的年輕人現在他的想法 |
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他們住不住 |
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他們認為這間不大我來北京 |
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我變成做這個情況 |
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再來一個我們的績效酬勞 |
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因為現在的放公股他們都4.6個月 |
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而我們目前還是4.4個月 |
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之前有跟財政部說 |
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財政部說李萬怡這邊沒有意見 |
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但是財政部說 |
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如果他們沒有一個行期 |
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他們沒有辦法遵照辦理 |
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變成我們只能四點四個月 |
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再來一個員工酬勞 |
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我告訴你我們台灣銀行的一個經理 |
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跟放公股分行的經理 |
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年所得差了150萬以上 |
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為什麼會差這麼多 |
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因為他們前一年度的營餘 |
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他們可以提撥1到8%作為員工酬勞 |
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而我們每年可以四點四個月 |
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結果我們每年大家你看分行 |
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我們中央單位大家拼死拼命 |
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大家賺錢賺錢的 |
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結果營餘也不能多分 |
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你那裡有賺的 |
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也不能分享到我們有營餘的部分 |
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是不是我們可以說我們的情處 |
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是不是比照放公股 |
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一樣我們也一樣就是有1到8%的員工酬勞 |
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再來說我們董事長 |
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你說董事長 |
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你如果說不要跟民營銀行比的兩三千萬 |
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你跟我們董事長的薪水 |
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你說跟放公股根本就不比 |
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根本就沒有辦法比 |
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再來一個就是我們員工的福利信託 |
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因為他們放公股以及民營銀行現在都有 |
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他們都有 |
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因為最高民營銀行提撥到1萬 |
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因為跨職等他們有提撥到1萬 |
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當然我們放公股就是有一千 |
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就我們原來出1千他們行方當也是出1千塊 |
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但是目前我們都沒有 |
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現在都是在我們財政部在情處中 |
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再來就是我們員工的伙食費 |
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因為員工伙食費現在放公股 |
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他們每個月都有3千塊 |
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而我們都沒有 |
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我們沒有因為我們在營用大概一世紀 |
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那個免稅額750塊 |
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一直我們告訴他們 |
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拜託人放公股都已經有3千 |
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是怎麼我們沒有 |
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一直就是我們有一個免稅額750塊 |
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這個問題 |
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再來一個主管家籍 |
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你看放公股 |
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他們每月8千到8萬不等 |
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但是我們呢 |
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我們是只有薪水會3% |
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因為我們3%負重的加3%薪水 |
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加下去比中盈利還要多 |
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你薪水比中盈利還要多 |
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譬如說你董總薪資沒有拉高 |
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變成我們負重的他主管家籍只能3% |
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當然我們是不是要求能夠提高 |
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再來一個有一個新進人員的問題 |
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年輕人民國97年以後進行的同仁 |
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他500萬只能存3年起利率加3%的問題 |
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一年他沒到2萬塊 |
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我說真的新進人員很可憐 |
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很可憐你20年30年40年 |
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只有年輕人退休他那裡沒2萬塊 |
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你叫這些年輕人怎麼生活 |
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當然你說年金改革改到像現在這樣子 |
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是不是非常不合理 |
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應該要怎麼要提高年輕人他們的福利 |
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在這裡說到這裡謝謝 |
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好謝謝我們台銀公會的林理事長的發言 |
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我跟各位報告剛才林理事長提的那個問題 |
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我們都跟財政部有溝通過 |
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我在這裡很正確來說 |
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其實財政部都支持 |
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立法委員不分黨派權力支持 |
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但是卡在什麼地方 |
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人事總處 |
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又是死又是尿的 |
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說這不殺你那不殺你這樣 |
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用胎管給鑽就對了 |
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又是死又是尿一堆 |
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說都不行就對了 |
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所以這裡不能怪財政部長 |
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要怪那個人事長 |
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人事長意見很多我們來繼續努力 |
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我們繼續努力 |
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我再講一遍財政部權力支持 |
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立法院不分黨派都支持 |
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就是人事總處表面都說OK啦 |
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歐陵誰都 |
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實質上就是不可以的 |
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要我們一起努力 |
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好下一位請議員的國會理事長陳志雄陳先生請 |
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主席 |
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委員然後各位先生大家好 |
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我是台銀行的教會理事長丹靖永 |
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感謝財政委員會今天有機會來聽話 |
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那正對於剛才我們來臨時講的 |
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有一個我稍微控制一下 |
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因為他導用我說的話 |
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因為我說台灣地區我說的不是說的 |
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這個我控制一下 |
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不能用我的 |
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不然要交錢 |
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然後今天說的是合併的問題 |
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其實以我本身的立場 |
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我台銀行 |
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我們台銀行其實金庫內有交涉是台銀行所談 |
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所以我的立場 |
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很清楚 |
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正對我們金庫內 |
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如果以主公司來說 |
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我們只要合併 |
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有辦法去創造我們銀行的一些效益的時候 |
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這個保護我認為可以透過高款的那個政策 |
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這個保護可以透過 |
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我說的是正對我們金庫內的主公司 |
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不是正對銀行 |
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然後那個因為銀行這保護我目前是沒有支持人 |
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因為我認為我們辦公區的整合 |
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同質性相關 |
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銀行對銀行的保護 |
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我覺得要審慎去評估 |
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因為我認為同質性合併後 |
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你只要問法 |
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薪水跟銀行的軟體這個部分 |
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你要是真的要整合起來 |
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我覺得可能要 |
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好好的來去思考 |
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這是第一個問題 |
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再來是正對有一些民眾 |
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當然他對銀行 |
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因為他是辦公區 |
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所以他對我們銀行有信心 |
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他可能卡兩三間的辦公區 |
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但是你現在兩三間合起來的時候 |
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他不一定會完全再站在那裡 |
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尤其我們銀行 |
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我們辦公區本身對方塊的評估都比較審慎 |
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一般來說你合併的時候 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
他當然正對銀行的部分會去跟風險評估 |
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所以是不是可以再照原來兩間合起來的數字 |
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我認為這個部分應該不會 |
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因為對民眾來說 |
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對民眾來說 |
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他的領域說東西要分做兩個地方 |
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他的領域比較安全 |
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所以正對今天你的議題 |
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我補充兩點就是 |
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因為我們常常說 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
我們辦公區的競爭力不足 |
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這不是屬性 |
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因為我們根據央行的統計 |
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我們在2005年 |
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國內銀行的主散的規模 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
在2010年裡面 |
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其實我們辦公區就已經有六間了 |
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這六間其實 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
台北、馬里森、花南、阿根 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
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我們是大到不能倒的 |
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還有那個兆豐 |
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我是覺得這幾間的規模 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
其實已經 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
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在2010年我們已經六間了 |
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所以你說 |
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我們辦公區在這個市場的地位 |
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其實主經的動力 |
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比民營差 |
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所以我們常常說 |
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是不是因為我們辦公區的規模不足 |
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來用銀行的合併 |
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這個我覺得跟屬性有一點落差 |
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第二點正對 |
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我們公共銀行 |
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因為我們本身公共銀行 |
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有一些政策使命 |
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不是只用市場的機票來併價 |
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這樣是不公平 |
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因為我們銀行本身 |
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是登記配合政府的政策的款款 |
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跟索訊的領域 |
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但是我們全部的 |
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應該說很多的收益 |
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都是送給我們台進保 |
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這個保護跟一般民間的企業 |
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他們的銀行 |
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他們對付的是利潤的極大化 |
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那是完全不一樣 |
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所以我們銀行 |
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公共的銀行的存在 |
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你現階段不只是國東的主散 |
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其實它還是存在著 |
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我們全國人民對金融穩定的信賴 |
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任何的政兵的決策 |
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對現在來說 |
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我都認為應該要先行透明 |
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不可以因為有一些政策 |
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說這個外國的時間 |
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你就要去合併 |
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還是說化一個口號 |
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要去合併 |
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這樣的話 |
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我覺得剛才我看了 |
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我們台灣第一 |
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這樣會比較快 |
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以上 |
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那謝謝大家的參與 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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稍等一下 |
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那個理事長 |
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你有贊成要公共病嗎 |
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我剛才他說了 |
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你有贊成嗎 |
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沒有我們慢慢來 |
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台灣的醫生會不會 |
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台灣第一可以 |
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哪裡 |
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第一台灣不行 |
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就是這樣 |
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第二台灣不好聽 |
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台灣第一好 |
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好了 |
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這樣了解 |
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你剛才沒講清楚 |
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我聽不清楚了 |
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好 |
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下一位我們請中副級 |
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我們是全國金融業 |
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國會總會理事長 |
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請 |
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主席委員還有我們的部長 |
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還有金管會的主委局長 |
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還有我們金控的董總們 |
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還有現場練習的貴賓 |
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還有媒體記者 |
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大家好 |
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我是全紀念的理事長 |
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那有關紀念的三個議題 |
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針對第一點 |
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第一點 |
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第一點是 |
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第一點是 |
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第一點是 |
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第一點是 |
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第一點是 |
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第一點是 |
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第一點是 |
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第一點是 |
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有關紀念的三個議題 |
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針對第一點跟第三點 |
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是屬於 |
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那個資助方的經營管理權 |
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如何提升經營績效 |
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跟競爭力 |
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還有第三個是併購策略 |
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這是屬於董事會的一個 |
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經營管理權 |
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那我們公會是充分的尊重 |
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那我們今天重點講的是第二點 |
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在併購的過程裡面 |
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如何避免員工的權益受到影響 |
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那全紀念 |
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在這幾年的併購 |
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這十年來的併購案 |
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比如說元大大眾 |
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富邦日盛 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
台新病新光 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
花旗讓與這個消費金業務給新展 |
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還有玉山病金控 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
永豐病金城銀行 |
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現在當然我們花時間 |
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已經花時間在公股的 |
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四個子公司 |
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投信四個子公司的和平案 |
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在這過程裡面 |
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全紀念一直扮演一個協調的角色 |
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那如果包含剛才委員提到的 |
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就是如果國票金有往下走 |
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有往下走 |
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那這一點 |
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全紀念就可以協助 |
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勞資雙方意見的整合 |
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這是全紀念的角色 |
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可是我今天要跟各位報告的一點就是說 |
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剛才很多學者專家有提到 |
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員工權益的保護 |
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那距離來講 |
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我想在這地方 |
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跟各位快速的報告一下 |
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就是從螢幕上各位可以看到 |
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事實上銀行 |
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金融中業同同盟最抗拒的就是一個 |
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抗拒併購 |
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目前心態上在抗拒併購的主要原因 |
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第一點就是 |
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在併購的時候 |
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第一點 |
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併購的時候並沒有對 |
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概括承受勞工的權利義務 |
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在併購的過程裡面 |
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我們可能對上下游的權利義務 |
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我們都會講 |
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我們甚至對於客戶的權利義務 |
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我們也都會照顧 |
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可是唯獨在法規上 |
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對於勞工權利義務的保障 |
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事實上是沒有的 |
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待會會跟各位舉例 |
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第二點就是併購過程裡面 |
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並沒有勞資協章程序 |
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各位知道併購是一個很大的工程 |
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勞資雙方 |
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雇主呢 |
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都說員工是公司的最大資產 |
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可是在員工在這個併購過程裡面 |
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是一個很重要的利害關係人 |
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可是他並沒有參與事前跟事後 |
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如果都沒有法律的保障的時候 |
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事實上對員工的權益保障 |
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事實上都是屬於空談 |
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那第三點就是 |
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既然員工安置機關沒有一個法源依據 |
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當然他就沒有一個強制力 |
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我們從下一頁我們來看這個事情 |
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事實上我們都知道 |
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在併購過程裡面 |
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不管是各種法律 |
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我們對於概括承受 |
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都有一個這樣的說法 |
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各位可以知道 |
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你看企業併購法第四條有講概括承受 |
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那概括承受包含他的權利義務 |
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都是沒有 |
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可是在實務上 |
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在併購過程裡面呢 |
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我們舉例在勞基法二十條裡面 |
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新雇主只要承認勞工的工作年資 |
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並不需要承認他的工作條件 |
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從這個點 |
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各位就可以看得出來 |
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往下看 |
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所以勞基法二十條呢 |
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是我們被併購的勞工人 |
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這二十年來 |
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這個四五十起的一個併購案 |
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我們公衛勞工所在 |
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我們公衛勞工所公認的一個惡法 |
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各位可以從勞基法第二十條 |
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紅色的部分你可以看 |
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在併購過程裡面 |
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新秀雇主可以上帝留用 |
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兩個雇主可以決定你留不留 |
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他對於婦女 |
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對於高齡的 |
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對於公衛幹部 |
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對於其他他看不順眼的這些人 |
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他可以有一個上帝留用權 |
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那不留用的人 |
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他不留用只可以拿支遣費 |
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那留用呢 |
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他只承認你的工作年資 |
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你的所有工作 |
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你原雇主對你的工作條件 |
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事實上是沒有被保護的 |
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所以勞基法二十條 |
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在長久以來 |
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我們公會的質疑就是 |
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第一個為什麼新秀雇主 |
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他有上帝留用權 |
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這是個很落伍的觀念 |
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第二點新秀雇主 |
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為什麼只承認我的工作年資 |
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而不承認我所有的勞工條件呢 |
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第三點就是為什麼我們在合併過程 |
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只能拿到支遣費 |
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我又不是表現不好 |
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是你不喜歡我而已 |
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那為什麼只有拿支遣費 |
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第四點就是我們公會長久以來 |
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我們在推動這個法令 |
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在這個地方也先打斷 |
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就是我感謝主委 |
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委員這次召開的公聽會裡面 |
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他的會議紀錄裡面 |
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有提到很多法令的修正 |
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這就是我們這些修正條件裡面 |
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都有一個很重要的精髓 |
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不管他的委員的高見 |
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是怎麼樣調整 |
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可是事實上他都有一個很重要的精髓 |
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就是在併購過程裡面 |
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必須要有勞資協商的程序 |
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我們只要求在併購的過程裡面 |
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我們要有一定的協商程序 |
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我們並不是說在併購過程裡面 |
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我們要拿多少錢又多少錢 |
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沒有 |
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在這個地方跟各位報告 |
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那下一個 |
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那影響金融業的併購 |
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有一個另外一個很直接的 |
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就是金融機構的合併法第十二條 |
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各位你看他的第十二條裡面的第二點 |
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他有一個對受僱人權益的保障 |
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可是這個地方並沒有 |
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這對受僱人的權益保障 |
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並沒有經過勞資協商程序 |
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僱主說了算 |
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這是我們勞工團體一直非常抗拒一點 |
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員工安置計畫從二次進台以來 |
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沒有員工安置計畫 |
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後來變成是僱主拿員工安置計畫 |
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現在 |
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我覺得國家應該要進步到 |
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這樣的任何的一個員工安置計畫 |
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或者是這邊下面寫對受僱人權益的保障 |
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事實上他是需要經過勞資協商程序的 |
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所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
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5403.28 |
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我們不斷的在主張金融機構的合併法修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
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還有勞基法第二條的修正 |
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我在這地方也拜託委員給我們支持 |
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對於未來不管是公共病 |
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或者民營病 |
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或者是國票金 |
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未來有下一個動作的時候 |
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我們全今年都希望 |
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在這樣的一個法律保障底下 |
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有一個這樣的一個勞資協商程序 |
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所以呢我們這邊對勞基法第二 |
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有一個出錢的一個修正的建議 |
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就是我們要破除這個金舊 |
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僱主協商定流動權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
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這是很不公平的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
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我們希望他承認是我們的工作條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
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我們希望在這個併購過程裡面 |
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他勞工公會應該有所謂的知情權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
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就是說要內容要經公會同意 |
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如果世界單位沒有公會 |
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是經勞資會議同意的 |
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這是我們的一個主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
剛才我們批判了金融機構法第十二條的這樣的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
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我們希望在十二條裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
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就是最下面的這個地方 |
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就是也要經過公會或者是沒有 |
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或者勞資會議同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
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這是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
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那講到這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
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我要特別感謝金管會主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
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還有銀行局三個局處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
在併購的過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
雖然法律上並沒有強制規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
要跟公會協商有關的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
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可是這十年來的剛才上述念過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
這些和平案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
金管會都有盡量的站在勞工的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
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會審慎的去參酌他的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
勞資協商的程序是不是有達到共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
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變成是一個總駁的一個參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
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那因為主委會高升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
局長也會高升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
5495.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
那我們擔心改朝換代的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
5498.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
這些並沒有法律的依據保護的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
這樣的一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
可能很容易被說到調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
那當然金管會對我們是很支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
5506.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
我們講到最後就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
5508.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
遠方案子計畫沒有法律依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
5510.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
即使我們要到一個遠方案子計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
5512.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
事實上雇主從現在的爭議裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
5514.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
最後合併這幾個案子裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
5516.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
事實上都有一些爭議不斷的發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
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那因為沒有法院依據 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
所以我們能進行協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
5523.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
或者是透過司法下去進行一個訴訟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
那各位知道勞工是一個弱勢團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
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老闆就是有錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
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他可以給你告告到你受不了為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
5533.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
所以說我們希望就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
5534.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
在這整變的過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
5537.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
我們經過我們一直用實際的行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
來證明這一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
我們雖然法務明定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
我們也在用合併案子裡面證明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
就是說合併的過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
5545.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
如果跟公會協商遠方計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
5548.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
事實上是不會阻礙合併的進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
5551.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
甚至有助於合併的一個溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
5553.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
所以呢那金管會 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
我剛才講過我感謝金管會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
5557.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
這陣子在法務還沒有修法之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
他對於這個合併案勞工的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
那因為僅止於默契 |
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所以我們希望修法才是根本的解決之道 |
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在這地方也拜託委員 |
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在這個案子裡面繼續給我們協助 |
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我也拜託在四合一的合併案裡面 |
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財政部也可以督導 |
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我們四個相關的監控長官們 |
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那在法務修正之前 |
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能按照以前合併案例 |
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跟員工協調員官的資料 |
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員工協調員官案子計畫 |
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以上謝謝 |
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好謝謝全金聯的中理事長的發言 |
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下月請華南金控的公會理事長王理事長請 |
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主席 |
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各位委員各位主管機關的代表 |
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各位學者專家 |
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以及金融業的公會先進大家好 |
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我是華南金控企業公會與子公司理事長王一賢 |
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今天非常感謝財政委員會 |
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給公會代表表達意見的機會 |
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對今天討論的泛公股金融機構整併的議題 |
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我想先清楚表達我公會的基本立場 |
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那在現階段在金融機構合併法完善之前 |
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我們是不贊成公共病 |
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這是公會目前的立場 |
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那我們今天也不是說要阻止金融的整併 |
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而是希望建立一套可以整併可以成功的制度 |
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公會堅決反對的是任何黑箱作業 |
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以及損害勞工權益的整併 |
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那期盼各位委員能夠將基層的聲音納入考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
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加速推進金融機構合併法的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
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讓台灣的金融整併在法治的保障下 |
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走向勞資雙贏的局面 |
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那如果透過合理的整併 |
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可以提升公股金融機構的經營效率 |
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擴大規模強化數位轉型及國際競爭力 |
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可是我們也必須強調 |
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不能把裁員減薪關閉據點以及降低勞動條件 |
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當成整併產生中效最簡單的方法 |
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金融業最大資產不只是資本分行 |
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資訊系統或者是客戶資料 |
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而是長期累積專業經驗與客戶信任的員工 |
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那如果一場整併最後造成優秀員工 |
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優秀人才大量的離職 |
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員工士氣低落 勞資衝突增加 |
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即使在帳面上的資產規模變大 |
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也未必是一場成功的整併 |
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關於今天的第一個提綱 |
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我想有以下的意見表達 |
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第一個就是我們泛公股金融機構 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
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近年來的經營績效排行逐年滑落 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
5765.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
如何透過併購程序強化經營中效與競爭力 |
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我們都知道最近幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
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泛公股的金融機構面臨競爭激烈 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
經營績效的提升確實是當務之急 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
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然而 金融業的核心資產是人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
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而非冷冰冰的營業據點或者是硬體設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
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過去的併購經驗告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
5792.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
若單純為了追求財務報表上的規模擴張 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
5797.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
而忽略了企業文化的融合跟員工士氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
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反而會導致內部動盪跟客戶的流失 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
5806.28 |
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要透過整併程序強化經營中效與競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
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所要條件就是要穩定軍心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
5813.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
泛公股在評估併購對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
5817.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
不僅是要考慮資產負債表的互補性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
5824.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
更應該評估雙方人事制度與員工福利的接軌程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
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那唯有在員工不擔憂飯碗不飽的前提下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
才能花費1加1大於2的綜效 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
5841.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
那公會認為在合併之前有幾個問題需要釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
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第一個是就有關經營績效排行下降的真正原因是什麼 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
是資產規模不足還是數位轉型落後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
5855.28 |
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還是海外佈局不足還是產品線不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
5860.28 |
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還是決策的速度不夠還是人才制度 |
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還是受到公股體系政策任務的治理制度的影響 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
如果在以上問題還沒有診斷清楚 |
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就直接把合併當成答案 |
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那可能就是把兩家的問題本來就存在問題 |
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合併在一起而已 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
5882.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
因此我們主張財政部在提出泛公股診病政策之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
5886.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
應該先提出完整的效益評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
5890.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
那在現行金融機構合併法的架構下 |
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5896.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
本來就有要求合併計畫必須評估合併方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
5896.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
5901.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
經濟效益業務發展計畫還有未來三年的財務預測 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
5905.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
以及必要性合理性可行性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
那公會認為未來泛公股診病至少還要回答以下幾個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
第一 合併後的三年五年具體的忠孝到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
5921.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
第二是忠孝是來自於業務成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
5926.28 |
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還是來自於裁員跟降低人事成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
5932.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
第三 兩家金融機構的客群分行海外據點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
5938.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
資訊系統以及人才究竟是互補還是高度重疊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
第四 診病所需要付出的資訊整合、人事整合、品牌整合、 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
5950.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
組織文化整合的成本是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
5957.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
第五 公股銀行背負政府政策使命與普惠金融價值的重要功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
5957.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
5964.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
那因為背負這些功能造成公股銀行在ROA |
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| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
因為資本使用效率不彰的狀況下造成落後民營銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
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那除了公股銀行還要上繳營收給財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
那合併之後是不是會造成上繳的營收跟減少放款金額 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
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那對政府、對銀行客戶來說合併是良藥還是毒藥 |
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我們尤其要提醒不能把減少員工計算成診病的最主要的忠孝 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
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因為這種忠孝在短期內在財報上面是比較好看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
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可是在長期而言可能會造成品質、服務品質的下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
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以及人才斷層以及造成內部控制的風險 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
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所以工會支持的是以成長創造忠孝而不是以裁員創造忠孝 |
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我們最後要再強調工會反對用犧牲員工來證明診病是有忠孝的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
6034.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
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金融機構最大資產是人,把人才留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
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把員工安定才有可能把客戶留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
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也才有真正的診病忠孝 |
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以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
6054.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
謝謝華南京工會理事長、理事長、同胞、還有最後一位專家學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
6059.28 |
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請一下淡江大學財經系的聶建宗教授請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
6066.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
6070.28 |
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今天有限就話不遲疑,我就開始講我要講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
6072.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
那麼首先也表達一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
6075.28 |
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雖然我在學界但是我在販官股銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
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是一家非常特別的販官股銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
6080.28 |
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這家是完全在台灣唯一官民共治的販官股 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
6080.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
6082.28 |
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當了十幾年的董事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
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所以在裡面也看了非常多的上上下下的所有裡面的氛圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
6087.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
6091.28 |
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但是我對所謂的財政販官股機構的未來趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
6091.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
6095.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
短縱期的策略計畫對我做一些我想要的講法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
6095.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
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那麼一開始我要講一下就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
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竟然是販官股你拿的錢是納稅義務人的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
6104.28 |
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你首先必須要秉持良心、道德與責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
6104.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
6107.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
當時在2008年我被任命的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
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那時候的財政部長也是給了我這樣的一個感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
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因為我問了他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
6113.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
說到底我要做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
6113.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
6115.28 |
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我將來要怎麼做要怎麼回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
6115.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
6118.28 |
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他說No,聶教授以你的專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
6118.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
6120.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
替國家的錢納稅義務人進去的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
6120.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
6122.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
幫國家做財務把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
6125.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
替納稅義務人爭取權益就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
6126.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
我聽了以後非常棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
6128.28 |
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我說那他說有問題再回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
6128.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
6129.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
我說那太好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
6129.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
6132.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
當然我在做的那個黨在這個歷任間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
6132.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
6134.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
幾乎沒有什麼問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
6136.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
而且我在的這一家金控 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
6138.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
我非常的感覺非常溫馨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
6138.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
6139.28 |
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因為販官民共志 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
6143.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
所以官民共志銀行它是有很多感情和溫度在裡面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
6143.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
6144.28 |
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我在裡面非常的舒服 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
6144.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
6147.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
在這十年的日子裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
6151.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
而且到現在無法忘記在過去的快樂時光 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
6152.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
不過不管怎麼說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
6152.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
6155.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
雖然這個官民共志給了我很多的溫暖 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
6155.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
6157.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
我還是要講一下我們國家的錢的使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
6158.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
不可以亂用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
6159.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
當然要怎麼使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
6159.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
6162.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
那當然就是你要為全民大股東 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
6162.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
6164.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
因為我們納稅人就是全民股東 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
6164.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
6166.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
全民股東的錢你一定要替他把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
6166.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
6168.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
首先我們很快講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
6168.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
6171.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
政府實質持股的比例做一個所謂的扒收 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
6171.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
6174.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
那我們可以看到這裡有六家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
6174.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
6175.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
包括銀行有兩家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
6175.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
6176.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
我用藍色的底 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
6176.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
6178.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
就是中小企業及商銀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
6179.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
它是也叫做販官股 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
6181.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
但是它是銀行體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
6181.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
6183.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
而我們現在在listing company是用金控 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
6183.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
6186.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
當然金控很多可能是銀行為主體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
6186.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
6188.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
不管怎麼說我們可以看到下面幾家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
6188.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
6191.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
當然其中有一家就是我一直很懷念的一家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
6191.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
6193.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
總共是有六家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
6193.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
6196.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
不管怎麼說我們所有的八大行庫大概就是這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
6196.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
6198.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
當然再加上我們純屬百分百持股的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
6198.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
6200.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
台灣銀行土地銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
6200.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
6202.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
當然我們有所謂廣義的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
6202.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
6204.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
還有就是只有財政部持股的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
6204.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
6205.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
各位看一下就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
6205.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
6207.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
我們看下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
6207.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
6209.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
這不是自己調控是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
6209.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
6211.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
當然這裡要解讀一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
6211.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
6213.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
當然我一直強調這個官民共志 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
6213.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
6214.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
這是一個典範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
6214.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
6216.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
當然這是一個零家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
6216.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
6217.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
我們都知道零家花園 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
6218.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
當然它的資產夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
6218.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
6222.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
當然他們從過去1919年到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
6222.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
6225.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
當然現在有一個很有感情氛圍的官民共志 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
6225.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
6227.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
所以官方也很重視這個民股 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
6227.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
6228.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
這是一個典範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
6228.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
6230.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
再來第二個我們也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
6230.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
6236.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
2002年交通銀行跟ICPC病理後成了兆豐金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
6236.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
6240.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
這一個純公股核心的官股 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
6240.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
6242.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
大家知道這個在整病之初 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
6242.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
6243.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
故事非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
6243.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
6246.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
2002年12月的時候三大整病案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
6246.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
6247.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
這個是最失敗的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
6247.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
6251.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
當時的泛官股的整病是有很多的問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
6251.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
6253.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
不過後來當然走上了不錯的路程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
6253.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
6255.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
當時我是用比較的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
6255.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
6256.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
另外兩個比較成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
6256.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
6258.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
在2002年大家都知道是富邦跟台北 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
6258.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
6261.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
大家以為是小的富邦病大的台北 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
6261.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
6262.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
其實並不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
6262.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
6264.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
我幫當時的馬英九講點話非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
6264.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
6266.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
是富邦是在金控成立之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
6266.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
6267.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
就是一個三角都 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
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就是一個有三隻腳 |
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證券銀行保險都非常穩的 |
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所以是一個大的富邦金 |
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類比金來併了台北銀行的 |
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第三個當然我覺得也算成功 |
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是一個保險大怪獸去併了 |
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在普通第一個在2001年就試點的 |
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這個叫世界華僑銀行的四華銀行 |
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因為再大的體質你是保險也好 |
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是一個票券也好 |
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如果你沒有銀行通路根本走不出去 |
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銀行就是你的眼睛 |
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就是你的腳就是你的觸角 |
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你沒有銀行就不行 |
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所以國內非常充分的四華銀行 |
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因此當時在2009年 |
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第一次到大陸去的六家銀行 |
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五家官股 |
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只有一家叫國泰四華就這樣來的 |
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第三個張銀回歸全公務主導這應該的 |
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因為在民國94年就是一個特別股案 |
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這個案子太奇怪了 |
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怎麼特別股還有選舉權呢 |
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當然這是五大弊端之一 |
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因此讓台新也成了一個類官民共志 |
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可是這樣有點怪怪的 |
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所以最後你會發覺郭啟榮號稱的三商銀 |
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一銀的體質一直不錯 |
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當然華銀一直在猛後直追 |
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但是我們的張銀真的就輸得很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
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所以張銀現在回歸公務主導 |
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有他的道理 |
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但是公股一定要好好的經營 |
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否則的話也會出問題下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
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好那我們時間的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
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我們這方面一個字叫Final Reform |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
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金融改革不斷的有 |
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我們一次金改二次金改 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
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是叫民進黨一次金改二次金改 |
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過去我們在1990年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
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我們從1966年我們的經濟慢慢活絡之後 |
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我們的活水為了要流要Catch Flow |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
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我們就慢慢逐步開放了銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
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像我們講的四華銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
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台北銀行高雄銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
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都是在1966年到1990年開放 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
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1990年之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
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當時的王健開放從25家變52家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
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與後存存的銀行開始惡性競爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
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預防比增高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
後來資本數字都出問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
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因此兩天才會有金控法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
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我現在講的是Final Reform |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
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在第一次的258兩年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
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2001年要達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
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所以預防比5以下資本稅8以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
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非常的算不錯我是支持的 |
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不過第二次就因為錢的問題 |
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一堆的弊端 |
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還不止五大弊端就出現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
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我現在講的就是你公股後代手裡 |
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國家的錢是最敏感 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
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一定要非常小心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
金融機構整病它有它的必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
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但是怎麼說是必要呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
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因為現在我們都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
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現在民營的銀行 |
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譬如中國金融啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
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或者富邦病日盛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
台金病新光這是最近的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
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我也引述寫了很多的文章 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
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不過最重要的事情是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
公股如果還用最以前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
公務心態去做事的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
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我跟你講沒有辦法去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
跟這個比較活潑 active |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
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甚至帶一個帥哥美女在門面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
所謂的民股銀行要贏得多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
這個整病或者改革是有它的必要性 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
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還有迫切性 |
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那我就說從所見 |
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競爭力還有獲利的結構非常重要 |
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當然時間的關係我不可能一一講得太清楚 |
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打破過度的同質性競爭 |
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優化財務或獲利利率 |
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還要推動這個獲利多元化 |
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擴大經濟規模 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
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最後財務當裡面就有報告 |
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公股必須支離一個明確的併購策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
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這個非常重要 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
策略要明確 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
就像我們所有東西要強調透明一樣 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
然後尋找最重要一個叫業務要互補 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
我待會會講的這互補的重要性 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
最後獲利要多元化 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
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因為大家都知道 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
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我們世界已經改了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
從2001年的Final Innovation到後來的Final Engineering |
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| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
到後來的West Management在2003年 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
我們在延續業開始有所謂的以財規劃式的考照 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
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我們美國的CAP也在2002年出來 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
這個財務管理這些多元化都要做得很好 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
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才補不到才有辦法壯大業務能量 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
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公股銀行必須知道這個 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
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好 下面一頁 |
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下一頁 好 不好意思 |
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那當整個我們剛剛講必要性 |
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必要的 但先迫切 |
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因為剛剛講到外在環境 |
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民營銀行的獲利基礎也這樣雙面夾殺 |
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各位去看一下很多民營銀行 |
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真的連他們派的董事薪水都很高 |
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為什麼 因為他們獲利很高 |
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因為他們比較能夠自由奔放 |
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好 那我們時間非常有限 |
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好 那不管怎麼樣 |
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好啦 那我們時間太有限了 |
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所以我們先講一下財政部最新的書面報告 |
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當然就要講到公共病的效益供應等等的 |
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我們在下一頁 |
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我每次來這邊做太多 |
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這個實在是講不下去 |
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來 再下一頁 |
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來 我們的下一頁非常重要 |
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我們講 官務一定要對股東做三星責任 |
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這責任最重要就是保障股東權益 |
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我們講公民對待資金投資我們都不講了 |
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你有我有併購之後才能查到3C效果 |
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才能產生Synergy縱效 |
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你才能獲取營業利益 |
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然後股東的價值才會提升 |
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就是達到了我們財富的第一個叫股東價值提升 |
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好 下面一頁 |
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好 下面也很重要 |
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這個就是我們在2001年訂基金供法的時候 |
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強調的一個3C效果 |
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要Cross Selling |
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Cross Selling and Capital Efficiency |
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這個是正面大於負面 |
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但負面也是有像Cross Selling |
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你只要把員工一整合 效率一整合 |
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員工就出問題 |
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當時最麻煩就是富邦金就說 |
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我並台北京你們不要緊張 |
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我不會解僱你們的 |
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保證一年不會解僱 |
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第二年解僱 |
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所以我的學生當時富邦金的富永講說 |
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好多人都很緊張 |
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說他知道明年一定被解僱 |
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Anyway 大家去想一下這個失業的問題 |
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好 縱效怎麼產生 |
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沒辦法講 |
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那縱效裡面有三樣東西 |
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就是兩個 |
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一個要增加Revenue |
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兩個Cross Selling |
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就是我們右邊的選議表 |
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我們要一加一 |
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像我和我太結婚 |
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要生三個孩子 |
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叫做一加一大於五 |
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這非常重要 |
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你不能只是大於二 |
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而且要互補 |
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一男一女就可以生下三個孩子 |
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Anyway 公共病 公民病 |
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到底什麼比較好 |
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我跟你講 這一定是因事之疑 |
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因地之疑 |
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這不一定的 |
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要看哪一種 |
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我先講剛剛有人講國票 |
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我今天天天上電視 |
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我明天還有三台電視 |
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有兩個都要講國票 |
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國票的問題真的是非常大 |
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我是這樣認為的 |
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今天你沒有觀察你票捐 |
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你要的銀行 |
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之前有個安泰銀行 |
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你現在呢 |
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兆豐也不想要你 |
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這個第一也不想要你 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
現在國票走哪一條路不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
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我覺得翻股你可以做公共病 |
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但是我覺得公民病可能更好 |
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這就是要達到互補 |
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如果有公共病是不同的是 |
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同職異業 |
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同業異職喔 |
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你是同業沒有關 |
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都金融業 |
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但你異職不同業 |
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只要達到的所謂的 |
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Complementary叫做互補 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
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你就可能成功好下去 |
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我們時間很有限 |
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我知道時間不夠了 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
Anyway 合金的策略怎麼做 |
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我覺得有一些 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
政策性的步驟要走 |
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假設我有機會再講清楚的話 |
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甚至我覺得在短中長期 |
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如何 |
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我昨天在一個電視開玩笑 |
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叫蘇明大頭 |
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我說國標金證 |
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有些問題 |
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如果今天讓我來做 |
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我搞不好就把它做好了 |
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當然我沒有這個機會 |
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不會真的想做 |
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我就可以把它 |
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一步一步到位 |
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我覺得這個 |
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整病的過程 |
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只要去抽絲剝繭 |
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它的財報把它弄得清楚 |
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以及它最重要的 |
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剛剛又講到幾個重要的點 |
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我這樣講一下就好了 |
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二列金證 |
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公平病也好 |
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我沒有說只是哪一方 |
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但是整病是非常重要的 |
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就你一定要評估效益 |
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還有一定要考慮到員工的信心 |
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剛剛講到文化非常重要 |
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如果你只是考慮到財務 |
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企業文化 |
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員工信心不符 |
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你就沒辦法穩定軍心 |
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剛才我們 |
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過去的黃安經理事長講到這個 |
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因為我覺得穩定軍心很重要 |
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因為我以前在的一家金控公司 |
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軍心很穩定 |
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每次到年底的時候 |
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還會有很棒的參會 |
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還有很棒的委員 |
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我想你想走都不會想走 |
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這是重點 |
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後面我就不多講了 |
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包括適合醫的問題 |
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謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
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6679.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
謝謝聶教授的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
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抱歉沒辦法讓你上訴議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
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我知道你準備很多的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
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好 我們在所有的學者專家 |
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都發言過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
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我們現在先請 |
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這個犯公股的部分 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
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來做一個訪問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
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來做簡單的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
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首先第一個請 |
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這個犯公股的龍頭 |
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趙豐金的總統好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
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因為我們的加速比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
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6714.28 |
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也就上三分鐘好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
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6716.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
你三分鐘對公共病這個題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
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有什麼看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
主席各位先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
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我們在座的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
所有這些犯公股的總總 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
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都是官派的專業經理人 |
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所以像公共病也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
公民病也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
或任何甚至牽涉到股東 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
重大權益的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
6736.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
在政策的研議過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
6738.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
當然我們一定會把我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
因為我們身為專業經理人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
我們一定會把我們的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
誠實的跟所有的政策的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
製定者長官報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
6747.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
在這種各種討論之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
做成的決定 |
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6750.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
那當然我們就一定來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
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6751.28 |
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所以沒有所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
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6753.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
我們不執行這樣的一個道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
6755.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
我們就是在做政策的凝聚過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
6757.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
我們一定盡我們的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
會把我們的想法充分的反應出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
那我們的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
6762.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
譬如說剛剛講的公共病 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
我們的想法是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
6764.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
剛剛學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
6766.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
甚至我們的公會都講了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
6767.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
有沒有新的級的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
6770.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
有沒有1加1大以2大以3的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
可不可以達到這樣的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
6774.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
或者說甚至有沒有企業文化的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
6776.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
然後對員工的安置 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
6779.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
對我們的所有客戶的保障問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
6780.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
這些當然我們都必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
6781.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
把它反應出來 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
6783.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
我們認為對跟錯 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
6785.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
我們都必須要把它反應出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
6785.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
6787.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
那這個在整個政策凝聚的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
6789.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
我們一定會按照這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
6789.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
6790.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
做完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
6792.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
接下來政策自定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
6794.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
我們再來按照政策來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
6796.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
中間有任何的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
只要是政策一自定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
6799.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
有任何的這些困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
6801.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
當然我們就會一一去排除 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
6803.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
這是我基本的看法 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
6804.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
6804.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
6805.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
6805.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
6807.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
所以董董的意思是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
6808.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
要聽財政部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
6808.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
6810.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
財政部說要叫你病就病 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
是這個意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
當然就 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
6815.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
因為現在政策還沒確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
6816.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
所以當然是可以討論的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
6817.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
我們也可以表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
6818.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
所以叫你病 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
6820.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
要股票金也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
6821.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
那這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
6823.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
我想我們是上市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
兩條都是上市公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
6828.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
不適合在現在的股票交易的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
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在討論這個事情 |
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一定會影響到股市的 |
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好 謝謝 |
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第二請第一金的邱董事長 |
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邱董事長 |
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表達一下 |
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是不是就跟董董一樣 |
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看財政部怎麼說 |
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你們怎麼做 |
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委員還有各位專家學者 |
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各位長官大家早安 |
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我想第一銀行也是 |
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放公股的銀行是一樣 |
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剛剛董董也提到了 |
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我們都是專業經理人 |
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剛剛許多專家學者的意見 |
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我覺得相當的有道理 |
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就是在合併的過程 |
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它只是一個 |
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不是一個目的 |
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是在一個提升 |
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我們競爭力的工具 |
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所以如果能夠提升 |
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我們的經營績效 |
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能夠提高我們的員工權益 |
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跟股東權益的話 |
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我想這樣的一個併購策略 |
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我們會認真的考慮 |
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提供給我們的主管機關來參考 |
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所以目前沒有公共病的構想 |
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目前還沒有去思考 |
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沒有接受到命令就對了 |
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目前我們還沒有 |
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想法 |
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目前還沒有這個想法 |
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好現在會請張萬銀的胡董事長 |
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因為外界盛傳 |
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你們要訂要公票金 |
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有沒有這回事講一下 |
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委員好我想對市場的傳聞跟評論 |
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我們目前沒辦法去評論 |
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不過主要像今天的專家學者 |
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我想提了很多 |
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基本上只要對彰化銀行 |
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長期的提升競爭力 |
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還可以提升股東的權益 |
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跟創造企業價值 |
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這個部分我想彰化銀行 |
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都會持開放審慎的態度來評估 |
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謝謝 |
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你們是銀行嗎 |
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國標金最缺就是銀行 |
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所以你要用中國誰 |
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你有沒有感覺到這樣 |
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彰化銀行因為是上市公司 |
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我想不適合去評論 |
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還沒有民進展 |
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所以你可以再講一句話 |
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財政部如果要你病 |
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你就病是不是 |
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這個我沒辦法代替財政部來做說明 |
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好等一下請財政部發言 |
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我們請黃南金的陳董事長 |
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陳董事長 |
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來抱歉這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
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我先請國標金的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
張董事長對不起 |
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因為他有跟我辦公室 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
先講11點回去開董事會 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
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所以請國標金 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
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你特別跟我們回應一下 |
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你們心目中 |
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如果跟你們合併 |
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或者你跟人家合併 |
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我們條件沒有這樣好不好 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
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好謝謝賴委員還有我們部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
還有金管會的主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
還有各位長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
還有各位學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
還有我們各位金融的同業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
大家早安大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
我想今天是因為國標金的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
才引出今天的這個會議 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
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那我想國標金原來是一個迷你女郎 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
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那他的規模非常的小 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
所以原來就用迷你女郎的規範在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
他規模小到什麼程度呢 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
他的資本我只有336億 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
淨值只有451億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
7063.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
其中我們還拿了60幾億去投資網路銀行 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
所以可以用的資金確實是很有限 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
那在這樣一個情況之下 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
我們事實上經營的是還不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
7079.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
因為我們今年的上半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
我們規模很小 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
7083.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
但是我們今年的上半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
ROE如果換算全聯的話 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
大概也有11.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
7094.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
這個在所有公營銀行裡面 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
ROE的比例算很高 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
7102.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
所以如果只看獲利的數字 |
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或者是EPS |
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| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
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我們當然是不好 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
所以這一塊 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
7118.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
我要為我們國標金的同仁打打氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
那國標金的規模這麼小 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
他們可以經營到這樣的一個狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
7136.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
那他過去的制度就是採用這個迷你女郎的方式 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
那這一次5月底 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
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股東會改選董事的結果 |
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關股透過委託諸諸徵詢或者是策略聯盟 |
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他拿到巴西董事剛好過半 |
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瞬間就用公股的所有的標準 |
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來檢視我們國標金的所有的東西 |
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這兩個是需要時間才能夠這樣檢視的 |
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瞬間這樣一解釋以後 |
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有些東西不是國標金的問題 |
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像譬如說第一個 |
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現在第一個要檢討的就是我們的待遇 |
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我們待遇是可以檢討的 |
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我也希望我們的待遇一定要跟你的績效掛鉤 |
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這可以檢討的 |
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但是所有東西都用公股的標準來檢視的話 |
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我可以坦白講我做過4家公股的董事長 |
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我曾經賣掉一家 |
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有一家也跟趙鋒斌後來他們獨立 |
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我做過4家的董事長都是因為臨時出了事才去的 |
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我這裡必須為公股的銀行來爭取一些錢 |
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他們的待遇確實太低了 |
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跟所有的金融機構來比真的太低了 |
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現在國標金是一個迷你的銀行 |
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瞬間因為董事剛好過半 |
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就要用公股的標準全部來檢視他 |
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我覺得這不公平 |
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所以對我們員工來講真的不公平 |
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不是不能檢視應該檢視 |
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因為我壽命來這裡的時候就被告知 |
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他說這家公司內耗很嚴重 |
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公司治理需要加強 |
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你去的第一個重點就是要減少內耗 |
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加強公司治理 |
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然後提升金融機構 |
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我覺得這個任務是我的專長 |
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那我後來被勸說答應了 |
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就來了這裡 |
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那這家公司未來應該何其何從 |
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現在變成巴西關股戰鬥事務以後 |
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應該何其何從 |
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那我就遵從壽命的時候 |
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所被告知的任務 |
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消除內耗 |
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提升金融機構 |
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加強公司治理 |
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我一定要把它整頓的美美的 |
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這家公司一定要病 |
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因為規模太小了 |
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不是病人就是被病 |
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病人也是被病 |
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因為太小了 |
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所以我一定要去做這個事情 |
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所以一定要怎麼樣 |
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把它弄得美美的 |
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然後讓大家都喜歡來病我們 |
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我的任務是這個 |
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那以現在急救章就是說 |
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你們趕快點人家病 |
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現在有人說我們是爛蘋果 |
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有的人被點名病我們的時候 |
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他股票連跌三天 |
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這個時候病對股東對員工 |
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都是重大的傷害 |
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所以我的主要任務是 |
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把它弄得美美的 |
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然後讓大家都想病 |
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當被我點名說你可能會病我們的時候 |
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他股票連漲七天 |
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我想這才是我們應該做的事情 |
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所以是不是給我們時間 |
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我希望在最短的時間內 |
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把公司經營得非常好 |
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這是我的專長 |
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然後最後我們也要整病 |
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所以請各位宮古金控的 |
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你們就拭目以待 |
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準備搶我們才對 |
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而不是每天嫌我們爛蘋果 |
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而被點名 |
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剛才三位都是被點名的先報告 |
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我跟他們都很緊張 |
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也不敢講 |
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當然可以公共病 |
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是可以的 |
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但是也不一定要排除公共病 |
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事實上民間的假設需要我們 |
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可以出高價 |
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對股東不是很大的 |
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對股東跟員工不是很大的這個 |
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這個福利 |
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所以我現在的任務大概就這樣 |
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報告完畢 |
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請大家給我們支持 |
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謝謝 |
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等一下 |
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我是就是認識 |
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你以前在做照分董事長 |
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這下是不錯 |
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你剛才說你自己是要來救我的 |
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但是我聽的感覺怎麼 |
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聽起來感覺是說 |
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好像你要變成化外之地 |
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你現在是換宮古 |
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第九家換宮古 |
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那前面這麼多 |
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比如說我們董董 |
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學者出身 |
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做這麼一站 |
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那個薪水放到多少 |
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最少沒有一千萬 |
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沒有 |
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你兩千多萬 |
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你甘願減一下 |
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對不對你做得不錯 |
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我們董董也做得不錯 |
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都當過照分局的董事長 |
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你是翻宮古 |
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我們部長拿多少薪水 |
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你給我問一下 |
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部長這麼辛苦 |
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你多少薪水 |
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我們政委委員辦主委 |
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拿多少薪水 |
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你們是董事長 |
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你是財政部叫你去的 |
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你一聲要給他兩千六百萬 |
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你甘不不好意思 |
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這個我沒有拿到那麼多 |
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這個我先 |
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超過兩千 |
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我先回憶一下 |
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你超過兩千對不對 |
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我只有知道我月薪是多少 |
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超過兩千 |
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副董事長的兩千 |
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你怎麼超過兩千 |
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這個我給他說明一下 |
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其實國際的這個 |
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金控的這個薪水結構 |
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沒有你盡量說得好 |
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因為我們其他 |
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你給我講一下 |
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他的薪水結構 |
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其實他月薪並沒有高很多 |
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但是他的獎金 |
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跟這些員工紅利 |
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是比較多一點 |
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所以我剛才講了 |
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月薪並不多 |
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那我剛才也講得非常清楚 |
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你的報酬要跟你的貢獻 |
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你的績效掛鉤 |
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這個就是我現在要做的事情 |
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所以也許我們這一次的董事會 |
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我們就會檢討 |
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我們就會要求 |
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而且我們的薪酬 |
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都經過薪酬委員會 |
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薪酬委員會是由五個 |
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五個 |
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我來請教你 |
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因為其他還有官國要講話 |
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你盡量回答我 |
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你董事長說話算不算 |
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當然算 |
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對 |
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你副董事長你又照不住 |
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你又算你身上哪裡去 |
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我們外面怎麼看 |
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表面上你是董事長 |
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實際上是那個陳副董事長 |
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才是真正的董事長 |
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不可能 |
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你還好 |
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還好大聲一點 |
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這個都可以檢討 |
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從這裏 |
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副董事長 |
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叫不來 |
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怎麼那麼快 |
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存在都可以檢討 |
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我跟他講 |
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我對你 |
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回去檢討好不好 |
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回去檢討 |
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你們已經是放空股 |
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對不起 |
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張董事長請你告訴陳副董事長 |
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你們從那一天開始 |
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你們就是放空股 |
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就要接受監督 |
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接受財政部 |
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接受金管會 |
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接受立法院的監督 |
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這一名應該很清楚的 |
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我想 |
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我們除非你有辦法 |
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等一下讓我講完 |
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我們所有的放空股 |
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大家的董總的薪水都大幅提高 |
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跟國票經濟價的待遇 |
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這個我也樂見其成 |
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我也可以接受 |
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因為做錢 |
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賺錢 |
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拿錢 |
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做事 |
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做事拿錢 |
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你績效拿得高薪沒有問題 |
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但是制度要出來 |
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現在呢 |
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我再強調一遍 |
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董事長的績效不會比你差 |
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可是他薪水只有你一半 |
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我就替他降不平 |
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我告訴你 |
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有沒有 |
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我告訴你 |
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你給我降一格 |
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對不對 |
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所以要不然你就有本事 |
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讓我們放空股 |
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稅務財政部 |
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提出來放空股的 |
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董總大幅加薪 |
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要不然你們就乖乖的 |
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跟我們一樣 |
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打折 |
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就是這樣說 |
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這個我看得到 |
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那有很多有所了解的 |
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我不知道董總是不是方便講 |
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趙峰我看了一下 |
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年薪500到1000之間 |
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對吧 |
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差不多中位數 |
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對不對 |
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你可以跟他講嗎 |
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不好意思 |
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CPI給啦 |
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各位聽懂嗎 |
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始諸價啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
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700到800之間 |
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CPI給啦 |
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就這樣子 |
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那個張董事長 |
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所以你就要講 |
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放空股 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
趙峰是最 |
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7733.28 |
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放空股幾乎是最好的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
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我說除了以之外 |
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就700、800萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
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你就要接受700、800萬啦 |
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我也接受 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
你接受吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
你接受吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
對你可以接受 |
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不然代議多少啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
7747.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
國標經理董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
7749.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
財政部長已經私底下告訴我了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
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7751.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
他們上級交代了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
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這個薪水 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
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7754.28 |
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有話你跟我講的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
7757.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
從薪酬開始調整起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
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7758.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
7760.28 |
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這個可以頂頭嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
7762.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
薪酬要調整跟放空股一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
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而不是往上拉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
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是往下打折 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
這個你們去放空股 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
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就是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
我們這一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
7772.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
我就是要來整頓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
要來做優化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
7776.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
再來做合理化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
7778.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
所以這個我們都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
那個中央長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
沒關係可以再說一說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
7782.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
7784.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
有機會讓你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
7784.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
7785.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
今天很多要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
7786.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
所以就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
7787.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
7789.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
我就告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
7789.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
7794.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
從你被指派董事長那天起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
7794.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
7799.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
從我們財政部底下的放空股 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
7799.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
7801.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
拿到巴西過半的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
7801.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
7802.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
7804.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
國標經理就是放空股 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
7806.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
他不再是民部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
7810.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
過去的總經理副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
7810.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
7812.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
董事長薪水這麼高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
7812.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
7814.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
多少都兩千萬左右了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
7814.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
7816.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
董事長不兩千多一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
7817.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
7819.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
不再有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
7821.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
那打折了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
7821.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
7822.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
打折到什麼程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
7822.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
7824.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
你做個戰溫委員董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
7824.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
7825.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
你拿多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
7825.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
7826.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
你都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
7826.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
7827.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
7829.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
我不知道董事長有沒有比你多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
7829.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
7830.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
七百 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
7830.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
7831.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
7832.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
就打為七百 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
7832.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
7834.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
你現在如果拿兩千 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
7834.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
7836.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
你就是打這個三五 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
7836.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
7838.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
7838.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
7839.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
四折左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
7839.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
7841.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
就差不多這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
7841.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
7843.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
一樣你們高層都這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
7843.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
7844.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
7844.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
7845.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
這樣對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
7845.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
7847.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
除非你有本事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
7847.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
7850.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
有辦法適用所有的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
7850.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
7852.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
讓我們所有的放空股 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
7852.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
7855.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
薪水跟國標經理完全一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
7855.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
7857.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
除非你有這個本事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
7857.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
7859.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
但短時間財政部長也不會答應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
7859.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
7861.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
財委會也不會答應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
7861.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
7864.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
所以那就是你們是放空股 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
7864.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
7866.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
要記得這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
7866.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
7868.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
可以吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
7868.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
7870.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
我聽不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
7870.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
7871.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
我聽不懂什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
7871.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
7873.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
聽不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
7873.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
7875.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
簡單來講就是你們謹慎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
7875.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
7876.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
就這樣說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
7876.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
7877.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
快一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
7877.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
7878.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
說快一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
7878.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
7879.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
聽不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
7879.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
7882.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
你要對我們的員工有所交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
7882.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
7884.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
我不是講我自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
7884.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
7885.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
我自己可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
7885.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
7886.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
高階的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
7886.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
7887.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
我是講高階的 |
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你跟員工一定要把他們的待遇 |
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跟他的這個貢獻 |
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跟他的績效掛鉤 |
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那請你唱的 |
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等一下我們請財政部長來跟我們解釋一下 |
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你們想過 |
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放空股所有的通膠打折要打到什麼層級 |
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比如說我經理級以上的 |
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比照放空股 |
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基層員工不必 |
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那還是可以 |
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看怎麼樣 |
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所以我們會改善 |
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所以我們會改善改革 |
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但是不是講說一定要打折 |
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打到股折 |
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或怎麼樣 |
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不是這個意思 |
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最少從你開始做起來 |
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你可以吧 |
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來你本身可以吧 |
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你本身可以吧 |
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我當然可以 |
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對嘛 |
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你三年我就聽你這一句話 |
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我以前做過這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
我告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
我在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
保來的時候 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
薪水一千多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
7939.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
我奉派去台灣中小慶當董事長的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
420 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
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趙峰呢 |
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趙峰多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
趙峰董事長差不多780 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
780喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
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對但是他們福利比較好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
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我們那邊沒有福利 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
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這個先講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
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好啦 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
7958.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
當時白文正董事長告訴我的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
7960.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
你頭角是太黑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
你錢多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
你去那420萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
人不一定都是為了錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
人是為了自己的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
你能夠犯公古董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
走路有風 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
這個東西不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
走路有風 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
你看我們 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
東東走路都有風 |
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就是這樣 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
我們現在要請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
7985.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
黃南軍的陳董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
7985.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
7986.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
7987.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
7988.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
跟大會報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
7991.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
因為這個張董事長要回去開董事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
所以我先給他理行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
7996.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
黃南軍的陳董事長請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
8013.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
8018.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
8021.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
我要講什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
我就請你講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
8027.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
我們今天同一題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
金金病 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
你們有沒有可能去病國標金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
8032.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
或者有沒有想要病其他的金融機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
8035.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
我想合併的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
前面那個趙峰跟一營都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
第一金都有提過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
8043.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
那我們黃南軍的這個態度是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
那我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
8048.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
大家可能會比較想聽到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
8050.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
我們黃南軍這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
8050.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
8053.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
官民共治的這個一個現況 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
那我可以跟委員還有在場大家來說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
其實黃南軍他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
8062.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
官民共治的時間已經非常長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
8066.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
這期間大家也都有經過一些磨合期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
8069.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
所以已經有形成一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
很合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
而且是符合公司治理的一個經營模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
8077.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
當然每個人會有每個人在專業背景不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
有不同的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
8081.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
對某些議題會有不同的想法 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
這中間的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
8085.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
我的態度就是透過溝通的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
來尋求大家的一個共識 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
8089.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
那這個部分 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
截至目前來說 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
8093.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
經營的算是合理還是順暢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
8099.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
那至於說剛剛有公會的理事長們提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
8099.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
8101.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
這個合併的議題 |
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8101.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
8105.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
那因為現在我們正在進行這個四合一的合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
8105.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
8111.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
已經走到就是跟員工來協商這個員工安置計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
8115.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
那我們的做法就是完全是公開透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
8118.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
我們跟我們投信的工會 |
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8118.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
8120.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
我們都定期在開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
8123.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
我們只要有一些安置計畫出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
8126.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
那個版本一定是原原本本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
8128.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
就讓工會來審視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
8129.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
讓他們有什麼意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
他都可以跟我們反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
8132.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
我們再跟第一經這邊來反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
8132.28 |
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所以說這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
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我們甚至也有請第一經的董總 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
8143.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
跟我們的華南永昌投信的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
8143.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
8145.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
來報告說他們以後會怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
8145.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
8148.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
經營這個合併後的新公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
8148.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
8152.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
他們對員工的處理會是什麼樣一個模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
8152.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
8155.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
這些我們都是對員工是公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
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就是公開透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
8157.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
8160.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
我們不希望說員工會覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
8160.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
8163.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
我們在背後有些小動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
8163.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
8166.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
我們完全是沒有這樣子的一個情況以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
8166.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
8171.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
好謝謝陳董事長的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
8171.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
8174.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
林副董事長要不要補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
8174.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
8176.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
8176.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
8181.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
我今天高度肯定你來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
8181.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
8183.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
這個因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
8189.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
因為我們陳董事長特別提到官民共治 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
8189.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
8194.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
官民共治就因為華南經原來的林家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
8194.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
8197.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
他完全跟國泰經是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
8199.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
原來林家的持股是非常多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
8199.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
8205.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
官民共治外面有肯定有政府正反面都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
8205.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
8209.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
基本上社會基本上也都接受了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
8209.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
8210.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
你確定不要補充前兩句 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
8210.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
8212.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
讓你秀一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
8221.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
好我們下一位請合作金庫的林董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
8221.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
8225.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
就針對這個題目你發表意見好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
8230.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
8233.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
保安委員還有各位長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
8233.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
8234.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
那各位專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
8234.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
8237.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
那合庫也是公共銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
8237.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
8240.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
所以我們對政策任務一向是全力配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
8240.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
8244.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
所以我們一定會配合財政部的指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
8244.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
8249.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
然後依序評估審慎辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
8249.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
8253.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
跟其他幾位公務行戶之前談的都是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
8253.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
8255.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
8255.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
8258.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
我們看周小慶的李董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
8258.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
8264.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
今天就是其實每一次關口銀行董總來這裡都是練習的沒講什麼話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
8264.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
8267.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
今天你看我對待大方讓你們講話講很多來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
8267.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
8270.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
請講一下你可以多講一點嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
8272.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
8277.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
委員好那我們這個台灣中小企業銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
8277.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
8281.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
是台灣唯一的一家中小微的專業的一個銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
8281.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
8289.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
那我們監督了很多與很多中小微企業的融資跟輔導的政策任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
8289.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
8292.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
所以我們顧客情的非常的龐大跟複雜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
8292.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
8295.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
那現在的這種經營環境動盪不安 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
8295.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
8300.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
所以我們的最主要的任務就是把自己做大做強 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
8300.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
8305.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
來全力的來協助這些中小微企業來成長茁壯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
8305.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
8310.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
所以對併購的議題目前還沒有深入的研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
8310.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
8314.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
所以你們不可能併購標籤不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
8314.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
8316.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
目前沒有這方面的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
8316.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
8322.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
謝謝我們下一位請中小中國輸出銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
8322.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
8324.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
要代主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
8324.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
8328.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
你國歌不可能沒關係來講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
8333.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
8336.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
委員各位長官還有各位學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
8336.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
8343.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
我們中國輸出銀行就是在民國68年成立的銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
8343.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
8348.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
我們的定位很清楚就強化貿易金融協助對外貿易 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
8348.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
8353.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
尤其現在我們協助廠商就是拓展海外的這些布局 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
8353.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
8356.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
我們協助廠商去分攤這些出口的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
8356.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
8360.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
所以這些相關的定位跟功能非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
8360.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
8365.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
相關的國家也都有唯一的輸出銀行辦理同樣的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
8365.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
8369.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
所以我想我們對我們既有的業務好好的來辦理以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
8369.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
8373.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
所以簡單來講就是你不可能併人家也不可能被併 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
8373.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
8375.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
就是一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
8375.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
8377.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
8377.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
8381.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
抱歉把最重要幾個放在最後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
8381.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
8386.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
台灣銀行台灣金控的林董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
8388.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
8391.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
你剛剛好像忘了你是台灣金控董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
8391.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
8393.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
我剛才講林董事長沒有回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
8393.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
8403.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
好委員好還有所有在座的各位教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
8403.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
8406.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
還有理事長還有我們金控的所有的董總 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
8406.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
8412.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
還有今天在座的各位應該是媒體媒體朋友們大家早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
8412.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
8418.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
首先我要非常感謝我們賴委員今天舉辦這個公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
8418.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
8423.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
也非常感謝賴委員今天邀請了這麼多的學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
8423.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
8426.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
剛才都提出了非常多精闢的見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
8426.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
8430.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
讓我們對整個併購的議題有更深入的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
8430.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
8433.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
也知道說未來併購應該要注意的一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
8433.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
8436.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
過去成功的案例還有一些失敗的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
8436.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
8438.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
為什麼會成功為什麼會失敗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
8438.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
8440.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
我想在這邊都有非常精闢的分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
8440.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
8446.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
我對各位學者還有我們公會的幾位理事長都感到非常的敬佩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
8446.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
8450.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
當然最重要敬佩的還是我們今天的主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
8450.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
8454.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
主席今天讓我最後上來就表示說我實在是沒有什麼重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
8454.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
8458.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
為什麼因為我就是一家國營的行庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
8458.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
8461.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
這個國營的行庫就目前的條件來看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
8461.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
8463.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
是沒有人要跟我們併的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
8463.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
8466.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
為什麼因為我們剛剛學者有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
8466.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
8469.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
就是合併它要能夠強化全球的佈局 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
8469.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
8471.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
那也可以有一些範疇的經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
8471.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
8474.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
最終的目的就是能夠強化競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
8474.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
8478.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
我想這個全球的競爭力真的是就我們台灣目前的金融機構來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
8478.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
8480.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
規模都太小 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
8480.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
8485.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
在國際間其實要成為一個有聲望或者是有影響力的銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
8485.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
8488.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
其實目前整個路途都還很遙遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
8488.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
8491.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
所以如果可以透過併購 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
8491.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
8494.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
不管是公共病公民病任何一種病 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
8494.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
8495.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
如果能夠強化競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
8495.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
8500.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
我覺得這個都是我們可以樂觀其成的一個未來的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
8500.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
8502.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
但是目前我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
8502.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
8505.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
我就國營的行庫來講好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
8505.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
8507.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
因為我們是國營行庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
8507.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
8511.28 |
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所以不管是我或者是土營或者是輸出的銀行 |
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我們三家目前都是屬於國營行庫 |
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所以也受到公務人員服務法的規範 |
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時間到了嗎 |
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因為受到很大的規範 |
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所以它在整個管理制度上有很大的拘束 |
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尤其就人才上來講 |
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我們知道人才其實就是金融裡面最重要的一個資產 |
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有好的人才我們怎麼樣能夠攬財 |
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怎麼樣能夠留財把這些人留下來 |
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讓我們的金融更壯大 |
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這才是我們可以做到的一個這個點 |
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目前其實我們用憲法的規定來看 |
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憲法第十條第四項也是有規定 |
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就是國家對公營金融機構的管理 |
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這個憲法已經有明定給我們這樣的一個方向 |
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應該本著企業化經營的原則 |
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所以他的人事預算決算審計等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
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都可以做一些特別的規定 |
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既然有一些特別的規定 |
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但是我們目前都沒有按照憲法 |
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跟我們的權限去做一些比較特別的企業化經營的管理 |
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所以現在我們這三家國營金融機構 |
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就受到很大的限制 |
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因為管理制度不管是對 |
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就是目前對所有的國營金融機構的管理 |
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跟泛公股的管理其實兩個制度是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
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所以造成我們目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
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剛我們工會理事長特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
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就是說我們在整個績效上面的一些呈現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
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雖然績效不比其他家要差 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
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我要特別講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
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8608.28 |
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其實如果我加上這個政策性任務的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
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這個所有的泛公股裡面我的績效是最好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
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我要這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
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8615.28 |
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真的因為我們承擔非常多的一些政策性的任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
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但是我們的經營績效 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
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完全沒有跟我們的薪酬制度或者是績效制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
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或者是員工的福利制度掛鉤 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
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包括我們的薪水 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
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包括我們的績效酬勞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
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包括我們的員工酬勞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
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這些都受到拘束 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
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剛剛這個我就不重複了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
8634.28 |
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剛剛我們理事長有特別講過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
8636.28 |
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其實我們金管會的主管也在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
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金管會其實前兩天還在金融延續院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
8643.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
金融延續院頒發了所謂的員工福利信託的一個獎項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
8648.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
特別鼓勵我們所有的金融機構都可以去辦理員工福利信託 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
8651.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
不只銀行本身辦理員工福利信託 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
8655.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
還包括可以幫所有的企業都辦理員工福利信託 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
8659.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
這一項在我們三家國銀行庫裡面是沒有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
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也就是說我們對員工的照顧方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
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我還可以講嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
8665.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
對員工的照顧方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
8670.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
其實跟其他的飯公股其實是處在一個比較不公平的一些狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
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其實剛剛理事長講很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
8675.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
包括我們的員工我們現在少指化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
8677.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
我們希望鼓勵員工多指 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
8678.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
等一下我聽你講好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
8679.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
我可以繼續講嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
8679.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
8680.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
等一下我聽你講好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
8680.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
8681.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
你要幫我講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
8682.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
那我再講一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
今天因為很多的學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
8684.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
8689.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
他們都擔任過我們飯公股的一個董事或是監察人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
8690.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
那我要講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
8693.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
我們不管是台灣金控或是台灣銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
8696.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
我們要請人家來擔任我們的董事的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
8697.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
其實是非常困難的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
8700.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
因為連董監的酬勞都不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
8700.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
8702.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
不是只有我們員工的薪水不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
8702.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
8704.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
我們董監的酬勞都不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
8704.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
8706.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
所以每個人聽到我們的董監酬勞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
8706.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
8710.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
他們寧願選擇就是去飯公股當董事或監察 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
8713.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
我們是兩萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
8714.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
他們呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
8716.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
他們就六萬到八萬不等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
8719.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
如果單單這樣的話還會再更高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
8721.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
然後另外還有就是說我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
這講起來很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
很多細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
8724.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
我聽你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
8726.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
我等一下聽你講好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
8728.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
還有我們信息人員的這個退休制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
8730.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
其實跟所有其他飯公股比起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
8732.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
它是相對非常非常弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
8732.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
8736.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
這就是為什麼我們台灣銀行在最近的這一兩年的徵才當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
8741.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
你能不能聚焦在今天公共病的問題說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
8741.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
8742.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
你要不要去病人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
8744.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
人家剛剛講台灣第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
你要不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
還是第一台灣你又不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
8749.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
公共病公民病 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
8752.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
我都持樂觀其成的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
只是說在目前的制度之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
8756.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
我跟其他飯公股不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
8756.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
8758.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
沒有人要跟我病 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
8758.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
8759.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
我要去病別人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
8759.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
8760.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
別人也不想病給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
8763.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
所以一定要把整個制度讓它有一個稍微的一定性 |
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所以你台灣金控就是沒人愛就對了 |
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對啦 |
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這樣好聽 |
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這樣聽懂了 |
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台灣金控沒人愛 |
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但是台灣金控有人愛 |
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都是沒人愛 |
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因為我們這個整個福利待遇制度 |
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其實沒有人要跟我們病 |
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謝謝 |
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跟肉依一家還有一個陳國穎的土地銀行的柯董事長 |
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主席還有各位專家寫者 |
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以及各位同學先進跟媒體記者大家好 |
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土地銀行對於今天的主題 |
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其實土地銀行目前是一個不動產專業銀行 |
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並沒有去評估說會不會跟國標金控來做任何的合併 |
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那如果真的做合併的話 |
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就像剛剛台灣金控的董事長講的 |
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其實事實上如果病進來了以後 |
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由於它的股本很小 |
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那我們百分之百的國營的持股的話 |
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可能它的會病進來了以後 |
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可能它可能就要下市了 |
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因為政府的持股可能拿到百分之七八十以上 |
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因為它只有淨值大概三百多億 |
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那土地銀行現在大概兩千多億的淨值 |
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那這樣病起來的話持股一換的話 |
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可能整個來講可能會使得國票股權很期中 |
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那可能它就可能也會變成國營的金控 |
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那另外一個就是即使要合併的話 |
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就像剛剛台灣金控的董事長講的 |
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可能國票的同仁也不會很願意 |
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因為整個的待遇的福利相差比較大 |
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就像剛剛提到如果真的 |
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我是不知道國票金控的董事長的薪水 |
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如果以剛剛主席所講的那個金額的話 |
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那大概是我們薪水的六七倍 |
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我們董事長的薪水差距到這麼大 |
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所以如果他們的員工甚至於他們的副總 |
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或者是其他的高階的主管 |
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可能會因為病進來了以後 |
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他們可能很快就會離職 |
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所以說整個病的中效可能也沒有如期那麼好 |
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所以整個來講土地銀行並沒有去考慮到 |
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是不是要合併這個事情 |
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好那報告完畢 |
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好謝謝 |
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我們所有的關股銀行哪一家沒有講到的有沒有 |
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都講過了 |
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你們今天應該很痛快的心情很好 |
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因為以前來這裡都沒有叫我們講話 |
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今天我們講話也沒有 |
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對不對講那麼多話 |
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讓大家知道你們在想什麼 |
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那麼再請財政部長給我們總和答覆的時候 |
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幾件事請部長一定可不可以 |
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最少大方向 |
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我們立法院可以幫你忙 |
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第一個剛才的台土書 |
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大家都知道 |
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他們從董總一直到員工基本上是非常辛苦的 |
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他們跟辦公股差一大截 |
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比如說生一個小孩子 |
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台土書多少補助多少 |
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五千 |
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五千或六千對不對 |
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趙豐金補助多少 |
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講一下 |
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放下一下 |
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十二萬啦各位聽好了 |
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台土書的員工 |
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他生小孩補助五千 |
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趙豐金 |
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趙豐金的員工生一個小孩十二萬 |
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各位差幾倍 |
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為什麼我們台土書都小孩子是不是 |
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你們聽懂嗎 |
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生小孩聽懂嗎 |
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怎麼會這樣子 |
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所以第一件 |
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部長等一下跟我們能不能公開承諾 |
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我們反正會用努力台土書比上辦公股 |
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待遇 |
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會不會殺你 |
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你最少給我研究一下 |
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多久時間研究給我們 |
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需要立法院退我們來退零一百 |
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會不會殺你 |
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贊成你幫我拍一下 |
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這麼讚 |
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光光小孩子 |
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我們旁邊好多記者小野先生都年輕的 |
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你看到 |
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他眼睛一亮 |
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這個生一個小孩子 |
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那邊五千一千十二萬 |
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台灣人要一千 |
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所以趙豐金相對找人才容易 |
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對不對 |
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這第一點部長講一下 |
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有沒有可能這個地方努力 |
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你是部長 |
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你最重要 |
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第二個 |
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今天的題目公共命的問題 |
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就是 |
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國票金 |
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剛才張董事長講了 |
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他會先改善內部的體質 |
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那外面 |
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就是跟我的觀念是一樣的 |
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他是辦公股的一員 |
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他不能夠例外 |
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他的董總高層 |
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高層到哪裡 |
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有沒有到副總 |
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這個財政部可以去考慮 |
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這個我沒有意見你們 |
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我尊重你們 |
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但是一定層級 |
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我個人就認為 |
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總經理以上的罪責都比趙豐辦公股 |
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他就是辦公股 |
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在基層員工要不要改 |
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基層員工我覺得不應該改 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
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基層員工 |
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那就你們去想 |
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所以這個財政部長 |
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你那麼支持 |
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支持陳嘉他們去拿了國票金的副董事長 |
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這裡面很多都 |
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你要去承擔 |
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第三個 |
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等一下請本主委跟我們解釋一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
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外界關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
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現在等於是產金分離的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
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因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
國票金的副董事長是陳某某 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
就他弟弟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
本身又是產業界的董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
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然後他又是國票政 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
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要副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
這個有沒有產金分離的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
要是那我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
外界有這樣的一個擔憂好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
這請問提問先起財政部的亞中部長請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
9142.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
主席各位專家學者先進還有各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
以及我們在座的公股金融事業的董總們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
還有媒體朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
以及我們所有的行政部門的同仁們大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
9154.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
今天貴委員會舉辦有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
9154.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
9157.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
如何擬定泛公股合併的短中程策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
9159.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
還有實施計畫的公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
9161.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
本部誠邀列席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
我就做簡要的說明如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
第一個公股金融機構整併的原則以及政策的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
9168.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
9171.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
面對國際金融環境快速的變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
9171.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
9174.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
還有國內金融市場激烈競爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
9174.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
9179.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
本部積極督導我們公股金融機構提升經營績效 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
9179.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
9183.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
強化治理效能還有發揮政策性的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
9183.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
9186.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
我們要兼顧營運的效益還有公共利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
9186.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
9189.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
對於公股金融機構整併的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
9189.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
9192.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
本部秉持尊重市場機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
9196.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
利害關係人合意以及忠孝優先的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
9196.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
9199.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
並且在維持公股金融主導權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
9199.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
9203.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
以及確保政策性任務不受影響的前提之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
9203.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
9209.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
我們視個案經營的條件市場環境股權結構以及整體效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
9209.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
9212.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
評估整併的可行性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
9212.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
9216.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
依法循序推動相關的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
9216.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
9221.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
以提升公股金融機構整體競爭力及永續發展的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
9221.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
9227.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
第二個公股金融機構整併必須要能夠發揮業務復補的忠孝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
9227.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
9230.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
為了確保整併發揮實質的忠孝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
9230.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
9236.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
政府的忠孝公股金融機構應該就維持公股經營的主導權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
9236.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
9243.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
經營規模經濟、業務的復補性、資本適足性、風險的承擔能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
9243.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
9252.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
市場競爭、資訊系統的整合、人力資源的配置、內部控制以及公共利益等面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
9252.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
9254.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
進行完整的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
9254.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
9257.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
並且以強化長期經營忠孝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
9257.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
9259.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
維持金融市場穩定為目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
9259.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
9263.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
而且必須符合各事業長期發展的策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
9263.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
9269.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
第三個,與工會建立完整的溝通機制,妥善保障員工權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
9271.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
第一個,在整併過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
9271.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
9275.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
公股金融機構應該要秉持勞資合作的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
9275.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
9279.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
主動和工會協商建立溝通機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
9279.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
9282.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
事實說明整併的目的、規劃進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
9282.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
9284.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
以及對員工的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
9284.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
9286.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
我們要廣納工會的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
9286.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
9289.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
並且妥為回應,降低資訊的落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
9289.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
9292.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
化解員工疑慮,來凝聚共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
9292.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
9294.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
減少整併的阻力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
9294.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
9296.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
第二,我們要依循企業併購法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
9296.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
9298.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
以及相關勞動法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
9298.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
9302.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
確保員工年資還有其他勞動的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
9302.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
9304.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
在整併期間不受影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
9304.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
9307.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
整併前,應該就員工權益處理事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
9307.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
9309.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
提具安置計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
9309.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
9311.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
針對留任以及不願意留任的員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
9311.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
9315.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
我們要分別規劃職能轉型培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
9315.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
9318.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
專長的謀和或者合理的優退方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
9318.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
9320.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
以妥善保障員工權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
9320.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
9323.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
以及降低人才流失的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
9323.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
9325.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
第四個,我們要兼顧資本穩健 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
9325.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
9329.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
交易公平性還有股東權益的衡評 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
9330.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
9332.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
整併有助,擴大經營規模 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
9332.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
9336.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
提升資源運用的效率以及風險承受能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
9336.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
9340.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
但是,仍然應該以維持公股金融機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
9340.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
9342.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
健全的資本結構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
9342.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
9344.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
以及良好的財務體制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
9344.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
9346.28 |
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作為評估的前提 |
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審慎的檢視財務指標變化情形 |
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以及資本需求的規劃 |
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以因應未來業務發展 |
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以及承擔風險能力 |
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確保我們符合相關監理的規範 |
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並且要具備穩健經營基礎 |
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與永續發展的能力 |
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第二個,要妥善評估整併的成本 |
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資產的重估 |
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併購資金的來源 |
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以及股權轉換的機制 |
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並且要依法違請具有公信力的 |
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獨立專業機構 |
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就雙方的資產品質 |
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潛在的負債 |
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以及股權價值進行公允評價 |
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審慎訂定合理的換股比例或收購對價 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
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以確保交易公平的合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
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維護公股及資產價值 |
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還有全體股東權益 |
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避免損及公股以及小股東的權益 |
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最後,我們要謝謝今天立法院的財委會 |
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召開我們這個主題的公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
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我們也聆聽了各位學者專家精闢的意見還有建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
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以及我們的公會代表們的看法 |
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那麼都會是我們在督導公股金融事業 |
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在研議規劃推動公工病的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
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要納入考量的重要因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
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讓公工病能夠真正的發揮整病的效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
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9432.28 |
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提升公股金融機構的競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
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至於剛剛我們主席所提示的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
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要在做相關的部分的一些回應的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
9444.28 |
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有關台土書我們的國營金融事業的福利的待遇的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
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首先就生育的補助的部分 |
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目前已是全面提升到生一個孩子十萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
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如果原來的補助不足十萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
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那會補足到十萬元這是一致性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
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而且是全國一致是十萬元生育 |
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那另外再有相關的福利待遇的部分 |
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等一下等一下補助十萬是除了幾年 |
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是五年內生的還是三年內生的都可以 |
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第一個是他本身銀行的一個相關的保險的補助 |
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然後另外不足的部分是由我們衛福部這邊 |
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有關人口對策裡面本來就有這個項目 |
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是提都補足到十萬元 |
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我想這個部分我想各個我們的同仁們應該都知道 |
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那另外在於相關福利的部分 |
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之前我們也彙整了我們國營的金融事業的相關的需求 |
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我們也提報到行政院 |
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我想這個部分院裡面也都會很重視的在做研議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
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那至於待遇的部分因為涉及到他是國營事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
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國營事業不管是在國營事業管理法 |
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最近有一些討論的修正討論的時候 |
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財政部也提出了相關的一些建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
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我們希望我們的公股金融事業能夠有一些不同的一些規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
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9526.28 |
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那我們也目前來說也提出我們財政部的一些看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
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所以在提高我們的國營金融事業的一個待遇跟福利的部分 |
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財政部基本上是持的一個支持的一個態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
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我想謝謝委員這方面的關心以及推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
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那至於有關您剛剛提到的國票金的薪酬的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
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那剛剛我們張董事長也提到了這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
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他們會進行有關董總副董的薪酬的一些檢討 |
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那對於薪酬的檢討在公司裡面有它一定的制度 |
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它必須有薪酬委員會來做討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
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然後再送他們的董事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
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那這個部分應該在他們的國票金裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
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已經開始在做相關的一些檢討的一些作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
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這以上我的一個說明 |
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謝謝委員 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
等一下等一下 |
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我仔細讀了你的結語 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
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你看本部對於公股金融機構的整並 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
維持公股經營主導權的前提下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
持開放態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
積極鼓勵公股金融機構等等等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
9595.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
你這個話的意思是你目前沒有看法 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
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就是說open to everybody |
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| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
open to anything that could be happen |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
9604.28 |
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就是你說公共病你自己來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
財政部沒有立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
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是這樣子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
9609.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
沒有看法沒有想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
9610.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
9610.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
9613.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
我們的看法跟我們的立場在我們報告裡面講得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
你結語寫得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
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我結語是這樣寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
但我相信在這樣的原則之下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
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9623.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
做相關的研議跟推動跟督導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
9625.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
我想這個部分 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
也就是剛剛也大家董事長也提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
這個部分我們必須要在剛剛我們所提的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
9635.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
跟原則的前提之下去做評估的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
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這個這個好吧你這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
9641.28 |
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那就真的要解決高度質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
9644.28 |
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那你為什麼要將近一百億去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
9647.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
要去把這個國標金吃進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
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9648.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
根本就不需要吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
9651.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
你這是開放的你目前沒有想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
9651.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
9653.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
你說我已經想法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
9657.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
但是我不能公佈國標金要跟哪一家公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
9657.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
9658.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
何必有想法 |
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那就不一樣 |
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那我就覺得說我尊敬你 |
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可是你現在目前沒有 |
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就一副就不知道怎麼辦 |
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然後你看開放開度你自己來 |
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你們自己自己看 |
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你們要病就去病 |
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跟我沒有關係 |
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一副這個樣子 |
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一副這個樣子 |
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我們沒有這樣 |
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我們並不是這樣的一個 |
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我看你前面就這樣子 |
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我們不是這樣的一個想法 |
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是寫錯了 |
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不是寫錯了 |
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這個我看你 |
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你剛才直接高度解決 |
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我想委員剛剛我也提到了就是說 |
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我們謝謝今天台委會召開這樣的一個公聽會 |
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那我們也聽了許多 |
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我們在座的各位專家學者 |
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精闢的意見跟建議 |
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那麼後續我們在督導的時候 |
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都會把那些建議跟參考 |
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所以委員不要 |
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謝謝委員的指教 |
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因為我們在相關的部分 |
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持開放態度 |
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然後鼓勵公共金融機構 |
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自己評估推動 |
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就你都沒 |
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你是路人節啊 |
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別這樣子啊 |
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這個這個結語 |
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你們你要找誰幫你寫結語的 |
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結語這樣寫看不 |
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完全沒有概念 |
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這個這個前面寫得還不錯 |
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後面結語一下你寫了 |
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你去去 |
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好不好這個努力一下 |
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讓我們台讀書 |
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比照泛光圖 |
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這個需要我們來修法 |
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我們都可以修法 |
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國語是有國語法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
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當然他有相關的制度跟法規 |
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我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
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感謝委員的支持 |
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謝謝 |
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我們支持 |
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好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
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是不是最後我們請金管會的彭主委 |
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從監理制度來看這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
主席各位先進 |
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各位媒體朋友大家早 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
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我想有關金融診病 |
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主要是由金融機構依循公司治理程序來決定 |
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並且依照規定向金管會申請核准或辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
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我想金管會的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
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在於建立明確的併購法制及營造友善的併購環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
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現行的金融機構合併法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
金融控股公司法 |
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以及企業併購法等相關法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
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已經提供了金融診病完備的法制基礎 |
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並沒有因為股東身份而有區別 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
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我想對於金融機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].start |
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基於業務發展需要進行之診病 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
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再依照市場機制遵循法令規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
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符合社會利益與財務業務健全等原則下 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
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金管會都會予以尊重 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
9820.28 |
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然後也會依照相關規定謹慎的審查 |
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我想依照金融機構合併法以及相關規定 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
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金融機構向主管機關申請合併的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
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本來就應該提具受僱人權益處理等重要的說明事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
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金管會會將就員工權益保障事項納入審酌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
並督導金融機構確實依照勞動基準法令辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
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我想未來對於金融機構的診病案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
9848.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
金管會會秉持這個職責本於監理的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
9851.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
依法審慎處理以促進金融市場的健全發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].start |
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9854.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
敬請各位指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
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我想剛才有關主席提到的這個問題呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
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我想今天是公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
9862.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
我想再提書面的方式跟主席說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
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謝謝 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
9865.28 |
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好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
9870.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
我們還有一位相關的部會公評會 |
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要不要回應一下公評會 |
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簡單講幾句好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].start |
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主席各位與會先進大家好 |
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大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3990].text |
那公評會針對今天討論的議題 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3991].end |
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我們做一個簡單的報告 |
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那有關金融機構在合併的這個相關的議題 |
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主要是涉及到我們結合的管制 |
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那公平交易法針對結合管制 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3995].end |
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在第十一條第1項有規定 |
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就是參與結合事業 |
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他的市占率或者是銷售金額 |
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達到一定門檻的時候 |
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就必須在結合之前向公評會申報結合 |
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那在銷售金額的部分 |
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今年我們公評會所公告的 |
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金融機構的銷售金額是指 |
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上一會計年度銷售金額達到超過400億元 |
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以及另外一個結合的金融機構 |
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超過30億元的時候 |
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達到這個結合門檻的時候 |
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就應該向公評會來申報 |
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那在金融機構向本會申報之後 |
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那我們的結合的案件的處理 |
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原則上是依照本會所訂的結合案件的處理原則 |
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所列的評估因素進行審查 |
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那因為我們會考慮到金融產業的一些特殊性 |
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所以本會在審查金融機構在結合的時候 |
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都會充分的徵詢目的事業主管機關 |
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也就是金管會的相關的意見 |
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那我們針對於金融 |
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我們除了徵詢主管機關意見之外 |
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我們也會考量到金融產業的 |
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金融穩定性健全性 |
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以及金融服務普及性進變性 |
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以及金融服務創新的面向的影響 |
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我們整體評估之後 |
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我們再會依照公評教育法所規定的 |
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結合的整體的經濟利益 |
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有沒有大於限制競爭的不利益 |
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來做一個準薄的規定 |
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那以上是我們簡報的報告謝謝 |
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好謝謝這個公務會的長官給我們的回應 |
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現在有關於行政機關都已經做回應了 |
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請問現場的專家學者 |
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有沒有要第二次發言的 |
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好沒有的話 |
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那我這裡就做一個結論 |
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做一個結論 |
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那麼今天其實是依據立法院直覺行事法58條 |
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委員會應該在公聽會總結後10天內 |
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依出席者所提供的正反意見 |
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提出公聽會的報告 |
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並送交本院權力委員區出席者 |
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所以我們會把今天與會者所有的這個專家學者 |
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寶貴的發言意見做為未來宣傳的參考 |
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並會邊陳冊送交本院權力委員 |
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及今日出立席的提供建議的貴賓參閱 |
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如果各位貴賓還有其他意見 |
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歡迎提供給我們我們並入這次的公聽會的報告 |
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那麼最後結束之前我還是再次的講兩句 |
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第一個就是今天談的公共病 |
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大家知道台灣台灣這麼小一個地方 |
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其實是大家都了解是over banking |
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over banking方式就是減少 |
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減少就是透過合併 |
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今天財政部這麼大的動作 |
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病了吃掉了亞國表金 |
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這老實講跟世界潮流是非常不一樣的 |
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世界潮流一定是攻轉民 |
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結果現在變民變攻 |
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所以就出現到一個問題 |
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就是現在民的原來他的待遇這麼高 |
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變成半工股待遇的降低會打折 |
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要打折到什麼層級 |
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董事長總經理副董事長副總要不要 |
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經理要不要打折 |
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員工可以不要這些要不要 |
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這個都是問題 |
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就代表當初你們介入的時候 |
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都沒有去想這個東西 |
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第二點就是當初要吃掉國表金 |
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變成半工股的時候 |
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半工股的時候大家當然認為 |
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你們是要推動公共病 |
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要跟某一家病 |
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當然你你我寧願你會相信說 |
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你這裡是保密不講 |
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我們寧願這樣子 |
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不會看到說 |
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根本就沒有想法 |
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報告裡面沒有想法 |
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第三點我強調的 |
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沒有公共病的第二個階段的時候 |
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那你把整個國表金從民間變成半工股 |
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那就是大錯特錯 |
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那只是大家會覺得說 |
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那不就跟過去的奧斯金改很接近 |
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政府的資源去圖利某一個集團 |
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就這樣子而已 |
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感覺非常不好 |
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這是我特別提出了三點的一個看法 |
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做一個這樣的結論 |
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再次感謝各位 |
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學子專家新冠代表主席 |
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謝謝大家我們今天上會 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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