| IVOD_ID |
17649 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17649 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-36-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第28次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
28 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第28次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-05T08:35:17+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-05T11:29:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
02:53:43 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 會議時間 |
2026-08-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第28次全體委員會議（事由：一、併案審查
（一）委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員王育敏等16人擬具「法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員羅智強等18人擬具「法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
（四）委員吳宗憲等17人擬具「法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
【第（三）、（四）案如經院會復議，則不予審查】
二、併案審查
（一）委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「行政法院組織法第二十一條、第二十二條及第二十四條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員王育敏等19人擬具「行政法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員羅智強等18人擬具「行政法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
【第（三）案各黨團若未提出不復議同意書，則不予審查】
三、併案審查
（一）委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「智慧財產及商業法院組織法第十八條及第二十一條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員王育敏等20人擬具「智慧財產及商業法院組織法第十八條、第二十一條及第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員羅智強等18人擬具「智慧財產及商業法院組織法第十八條、第二十一條及第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
【第（三）案如經院會復議，則不予審查】
四、併案審查
（一）委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「少年及家事法院組織法第十四條及第十五條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員王育敏等20人擬具「少年及家事法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員羅智強等18人擬具「少年及家事法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
【第（三）案各黨團若未提出不復議同意書，則不予審查】
五、併案審查
（一）委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「懲戒法院組織法第六條及第七條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員王育敏等20人擬具「懲戒法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員羅智強等18人擬具「懲戒法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
【第（三）案各黨團若未提出不復議同意書，則不予審查】
【本次會議僅進行詢答】） |
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初期委員六人 |
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已足法定人數請主席宣布開會 |
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好各位委員還有各位這個 |
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官員們大家早安 |
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我們就現在開會 |
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好首先先進行報告事項 |
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宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
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列席官員考試院副秘書長 |
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龔葵毅等人 |
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主席莊昭吉委員瑞雄 |
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報告事項宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
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決定討論事項 |
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一繼續病案審查行政院 |
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1630.07 |
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案情審議毒品危害防治條例 |
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1632.19 |
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第33條及第36條條文修正草案等23案 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
1636.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
1638.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
二繼續審查考試院 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
1638.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
1641.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
案情審議公務人員考機法修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
1641.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
1644.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
決議一毒品危害防治條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
1644.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
1647.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
第33條及第36條條文修正草案等23案 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
1647.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
1649.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
進行逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
1649.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
1650.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
第33條 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
1650.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
1652.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
第33條之一及第36條 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
1652.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
1654.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
均保有送院會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
1654.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
1656.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
通過附帶決議一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
1656.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
1657.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
本案審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
1657.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
1659.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
擬據審查報告提請院會公決 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
1659.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
1661.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
須交由黨團協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
1661.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
1662.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
院會討論時 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
1662.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
1664.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
由莊昭吉委員瑞雄出席說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
1664.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
1668.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
條4引述條文部分文字及法制用字用語 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
1668.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
1670.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
授權主席及議事人員整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
1670.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
1673.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
二公務人員考機法修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
1673.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
1675.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
令定期繼續審查宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
1677.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
1679.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
好 請問這座的委員們 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
1679.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
1680.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
對於上次的會議紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
1680.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
1682.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
有沒有錯誤或遺漏 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
1683.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
1685.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
好 沒有的話我們由議事錄確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
1685.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
1686.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
那接著呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
1686.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
1688 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
我就先介紹到場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
1688 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1689.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
以及應邀列席的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
1689.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
1691.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
首先先介紹陳昭志委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
1692.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1694.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
好 吳宗憲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
1695.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
1697.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
好 那麼今天應邀列席的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1697.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1700.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
有司法院的秘書長高秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
1701.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
1703.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
而群序部的政務次長懷旭懷次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1703.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1708.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
還有這個行政院人事行政總處的 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
1708.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1710.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
這個張秋元張副人事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
1711.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1712.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
好 那其他的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
1712.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1714.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
我就不再逐一介紹 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
1714.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1716.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
並列入公報紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
1716.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1718.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
那本次的會議為兩天一次會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
1718.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1721.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
議程討論事項總共有五案 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1721.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
1722.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
分別為 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
1722.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
1723.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
病案審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
1723.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
1727.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
委員翁曉玲等十八人擬具的法院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
1727.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1729.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
部分條文修正草案等四案 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
1729.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
1731.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
然後第二就是病案審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
1731.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1734.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
委員翁曉玲等十八人擬具的行政院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
1734.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1735.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
等三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
1735.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1737.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
然後第三就是病案審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
1737.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1740.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
委員翁曉玲等十八人擬具的 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
1740.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1743.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
智慧財產及商業法院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
1743.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1745.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
等三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
1745.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1748.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
然後以及第四就是病案審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
1748.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1750.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
委員翁曉玲等十八人擬具的 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1750.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1752.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
少年及家事法院組織法等三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
1752.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1754.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
然後第五是病案審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1754.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1756.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
委員翁曉玲等十八人擬具的 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
1756.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1759.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
懲戒法院組織法等三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1759.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1762.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
那本次會議就僅進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1765.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1770.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
因為第二案中的誇號三 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1770.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1771.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
第四案中的誇號三 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1771.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1775.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
及第五案中的誇號三 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1775.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1778.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
並未提出各黨團的不附義同意書 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1778.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1781.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
原因開會通知單所在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1781.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1783.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
所載不予審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1786.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1789.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
好 那我們就先進行委員提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1789.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1791.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
那每位發言時間是三分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1791.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1794.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
請提案人先進行提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1794.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1796.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
吳委員要提起提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1796.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1796.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
1801.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1803.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
1803.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
1806.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
我這邊做提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
1806.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1808.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
我自己過去是司法人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
1808.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1810.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
所以我一直有一個想法就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
1810.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1813.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
有一天我們的司法 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
1813.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1815.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
實務上面不會再過勞 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1815.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1818.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
去喚起這種勉強來維持司法正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
1818.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1819.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
所以從第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1819.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1822.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
我自己擔任立法委員第一個會期開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1822.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
1823.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
我擔任司法法制的召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
1823.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
1826.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
那立法院史上第一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
1826.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
1828.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
為司法過勞來開公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
1828.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
1831.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
所以我當時是請很多基層的法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
1831.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
1832.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
檢察官 書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
1832.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
1833.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
到立法院來 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
1833.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
1835.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
把整個工作量講出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
1835.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
1836.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
讓整個國家看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
1836.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
1839.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
目前這個案件洪流下面 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
1839.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
1842.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
司法人力吃緊的這個現實狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
1842.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
1845.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
那接著我再一路去爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
1845.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
1847 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
檢察官助理的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
1847 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
1848.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
來去協助打詐 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
1848.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
1850.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
那還有打破28年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
1850.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
1853.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
一直沒有調漲的書記官的紀錄費 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
1853.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
1855.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
我的一切作為就是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
1855.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
1858.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
為我們的司法爭取到最好的環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
1858.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
1860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
以及把第一線的 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
1860.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
1862.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
檔案人力願意留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
1862.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
1863.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
因為這幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
1863.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
1865.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
我們非常多優秀的法官檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
1865.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
1867.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
1867.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
1869.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
或是其他的院檢同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
1869.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
1871.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
都陸陸續續的離職 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
1871.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
1874 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
他們離職不是對國家失去熱情 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
1874 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
1876.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
而他們的離職實在是負荷不了 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
1876.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
1880.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
現在我們的實務的工作上面的案件量 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
1881.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
1885 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
這一次的我修法案組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
1885 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
1887.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
其實我就是要把這個想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
1887.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
1889.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
再更具體的制度化 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
1889.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
1890.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
所以內容包括第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
1890.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
1892.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
三等書記官職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
1892.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
1895.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
從委任四五職等調高到 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
1895.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
1897.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
建任的六職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
1897.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
1899.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
然後第二個一二等書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
1899.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
1902.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
佔比從二分之一放寬到三分之二 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
1903.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
1906.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
第三個 罰金長 副罰金長 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
1906.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
1909.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
調高到建任七跟八職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
1909.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
1912.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
那我這邊跟司法院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
1912.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
1913.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
最大的不一樣是 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
1913.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
1916.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
我希望連罰金本身都開放建任六等 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
1916.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
1918.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
不是只有調主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
1918.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
1920.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
這個才能夠真正留住 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
1920.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
1922.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
第一線的院檢同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
1923.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
1924.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
最後我不只談過勞 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
1924.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
1926.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
我還要談安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
1926.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
1928.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
那這幾年我們常看到法院裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
1928.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
1930.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
發生了很多暴力衝突的新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
1930.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
1931.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
那這個就是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
1931.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
1934.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
現行法警的職權搞不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
1934.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
1935.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
維安的工具也不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
1935.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
1938.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
它有一個制度上面的破口 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
1938.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
1940.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
所以這幾年有律師 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
1940.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
1941.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
有當事人 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
1941.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
1943.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
有證人在法庭上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
1943.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
1945.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
騷擾甚至受傷 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
1945.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
1946.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
好 那 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
1946.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
1947.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
因為在法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
1947.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
1948.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
它是在司法機關裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
1948.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
1949.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
維護安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
1949.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
1951.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
維護秩序的這個專業司法警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
1951.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
1954.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
這次修法我就希望把這個洞補起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
1954.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
1956.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
那這個職務內容還包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
1956.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
1957.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
給予他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
1957.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
1959.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
譬如說管束 扣留 安檢 警戒 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
1959.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
1961.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
戒具使用這個等等的要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
1961.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
1963.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
要把它寫清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
1963.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
1964.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
配套措施 補償機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
1964.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
1966.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
都要把它明確化 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
1966.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
1967.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
我們同時也要授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
1967.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
1969.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
司法院 法務部 訂定細則 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
1969.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
1972.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
讓所有的人有法律依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
1972.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
1973.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
也有比例原則的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
1973.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
1975.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
大家才敢依法來做事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
1975.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
1976.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
我要強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
1976.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
1978.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
這個修法不是只替 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
1978.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
1980.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
司法爭取工作條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
1980.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
1981.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
也是要讓人民去 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
1981.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
1983.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
幫人民爭取一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
1983.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
1985.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
能夠安心伸張正義的 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
1985.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
1986.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
司法環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
1986.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
1988.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
因為只有當辦案的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
1988.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
1989.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
不被拖垮 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
1989.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
1990.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
不被過牢 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
1990.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
1992.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
當法警有足夠的權限 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
1992.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
1994.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
守住法院地檢署的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
1994.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
1996.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
才能讓每一個走進 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
1996.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
1997.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
法院地檢署 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
1997.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
1998.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
爭取公平正義的 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
1998.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
2000.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
當事人 證人 被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
2000.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
2002.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
能夠真正安全放心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
2002.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2003.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
在法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
2003.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2004.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
在偵查庭裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
2004.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2005.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
講真話 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
2005.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
2006.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
然後來得到正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
2006.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
2007.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
2023.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2025.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
我們請提案人翁曉琳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
2025.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2026.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
做提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
2030.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2032.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
主席還有在座的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
2032.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2033.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
還有各位官員大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
2033.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
2035.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
那本期這次所提出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
2035.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
2037.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
有關於修正法院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
2037.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2038.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
等等的這幾個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
2038.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2039.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
主要就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
2039.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2040.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
也是考量到 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
2040.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2041.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
書記官還有法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
2041.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2042.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
他們現在的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
2042.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2045.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
是比早期 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
2045.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2047.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
前十幾年以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
2047.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2048.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
要更為的沉重 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
2048.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
2049.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
主要也是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
2049.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2051.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
我們透過很多的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
2051.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2053.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
其實也賦予 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
2053.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2055.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
這個法院更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2055.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2057.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
職責職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
2057.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2058.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
所以呢 那因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
2058.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2060.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
他們的整個的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2060.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2062.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
負擔加大 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
2062.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2063.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
那當然對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2063.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2064.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
這個相對應的 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2064.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2065.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
像薪資待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2065.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2067.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
還有在執政申請的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
2067.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2068.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
我們都應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2068.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2070.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
給予更多的支持跟協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2070.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2071.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
那麼所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
2071.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2072.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
在這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2072.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2074.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
我們總共修了 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2074.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2075.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
好幾個不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2075.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2077.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
都涉及到法院組織法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2077.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2079.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
這個相關的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2079.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2081.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
那除了法院組織法之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2081.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2083.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
還有像是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2083.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2084.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2084.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2085.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
行政法院的組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2085.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2086.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
以及智慧財產商業 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2086.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2087.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
法院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2087.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2088.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2088.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2089.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
那其目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2089.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2090.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
基本上都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2090.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2091.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
要將這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2091.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2092.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
目前服務於 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
2092.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2094.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
這些不同法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2094.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2095.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
書記官和法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
2095.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2096.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
他們的職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2096.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2098.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
要向上提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2098.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2099.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
那麼當然在 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2099.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2101.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
司法院基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2101.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2103.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
也是支持像這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2103.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2105.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
我們這次所提出的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2105.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2106.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
那麼主要我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2106.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2107.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
跟司法院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2107.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2109.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
比較不同的地方是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2109.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2110.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
在法警的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2110.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2112.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
那麼法警因為目前 |
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都還是屬於 |
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比較基層的人員 |
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2116.52 |
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那他們的職等 |
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2116.52 |
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2118.56 |
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是從三職等 |
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到現在的五職等 |
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2121.86 |
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那在這次 |
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2122.86 |
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原來司法院的版本裡面 |
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2122.86 |
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2123.86 |
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他們基本上 |
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2123.86 |
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2124.86 |
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並沒有提出 |
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2126.86 |
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就是可以在更進一階的 |
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2127.86 |
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調升到 |
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2127.86 |
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2129.86 |
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這個鑑任的六職等 |
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2129.86 |
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2130.86 |
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那本期在這裡 |
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2130.86 |
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2131.86 |
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是提出就是 |
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2131.86 |
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2133.86 |
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可以將法警的職等 |
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2133.86 |
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2137.86 |
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再往上更進一階 |
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2137.86 |
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2138.86 |
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也就是從現在的 |
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2138.86 |
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2139.86 |
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這個委任的 |
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2139.86 |
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2141.86 |
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三職等可以到 |
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2141.86 |
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2142.86 |
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鑑任的六職等 |
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2142.86 |
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2143.86 |
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那麼基本上 |
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2143.86 |
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2146.86 |
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我想對於整個法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2147.75 |
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2149.75 |
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司法人員的過勞的問題 |
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2149.75 |
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2151.75 |
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我們都非常的重視 |
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2151.75 |
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2152.75 |
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那麼我們也希望 |
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2152.75 |
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2154.75 |
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透過這次的人力的 |
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2154.75 |
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2156.75 |
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職等的調升 |
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2156.75 |
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2158.75 |
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可以讓我們司法的人員 |
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2158.75 |
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2159.75 |
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得到一些 |
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2159.75 |
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2161.75 |
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實質上的一些支持 |
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2161.75 |
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2163.75 |
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那麼我們也希望 |
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2163.75 |
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2165.75 |
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透過像這樣的一個做法 |
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2165.75 |
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2167.75 |
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未來能夠進一步的改善 |
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2167.75 |
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2168.75 |
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整個司法工作的環境 |
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2168.75 |
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2169.75 |
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好 以上 謝謝 |
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2188.15 |
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2189.15 |
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接下來呢 |
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2189.15 |
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2191.15 |
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我們就請機關代表報告 |
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2191.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2193.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
那每位發言時間是三分鐘 |
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2193.15 |
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2194.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
首先我們先有請 |
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2194.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2195.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
司法院的秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2195.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2196.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
高金志 高秘書長 |
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2196.15 |
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2198.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
來進行說明 謝謝 |
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2204.1 |
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2207.1 |
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主席 各位委員 各位先進 |
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2207.1 |
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2209.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
今天封邀列席委員會 |
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2209.1 |
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2211.1 |
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就委員 翁委員 |
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2211.1 |
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2214.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
還有王玉明委員 羅志祥委員 |
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2214.1 |
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2215.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
吳宗憲委員等 |
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2215.1 |
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2217.1 |
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所提出來法院組織法 |
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2217.1 |
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2218.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
還有行政法院 |
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2218.1 |
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2220.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
等專業法院組織法 |
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2221.53 |
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2222.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
修正草案 |
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2222.53 |
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2224.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
代表本院進行報告 |
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2224.53 |
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2225.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
並被質詢 |
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2225.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
2227.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
請說明本院意見如下 |
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2227.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
2228.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
進行指教 |
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2228.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
2230.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
首先非常感謝 |
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2230.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
2232.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
委員們重視我們 |
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2232.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
2233.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
書記官 |
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2233.53 |
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2234.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
還有法警 |
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2234.53 |
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2236.53 |
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他們的工作環境 |
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2236.53 |
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2237.53 |
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以及職等 |
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2237.53 |
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2239.53 |
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我相信這個 |
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2239.53 |
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2240.53 |
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寫案司法 |
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2240.53 |
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2242.53 |
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應該是大家都同意的一句話了 |
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2242.53 |
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2244.53 |
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那除了司法院的努力外 |
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2244.53 |
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2247.53 |
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可是我們對於這個職等 |
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2247.53 |
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2250.53 |
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還有這個工作內容 |
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2250.57 |
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2251.57 |
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在組織法上 |
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2251.57 |
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2253.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
如同剛剛委員們所提的 |
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2253.57 |
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2254.57 |
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並沒有完整 |
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2254.57 |
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2257.57 |
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所以我們非常感謝 |
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2257.57 |
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2260.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
委員們提出這樣的修正草案 |
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2260.57 |
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2263.57 |
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那在這個修正草案裡面 |
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2263.57 |
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2265.57 |
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非常感謝真的委員們 |
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2265.57 |
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2266.57 |
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對於書記官 |
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2267.9 |
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2268.9 |
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工作 |
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2268.9 |
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2270.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
這個職務列等 |
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2270.9 |
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2272.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
其實最重要是要暢通他們申請管道 |
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2272.9 |
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2274.9 |
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我們要留用優秀的人才 |
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2274.9 |
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2276.9 |
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還有謝謝委員們 |
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2276.9 |
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2278.9 |
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提升法警職等 |
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2278.9 |
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2280.9 |
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然後在這個法案裡面 |
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2280.9 |
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2282.9 |
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也來強化分組編制 |
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2282.9 |
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2284.9 |
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來明文賦予 |
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2284.9 |
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2286.9 |
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這個法警的執法權限 |
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2286.9 |
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2288.9 |
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最重要是要維護院檢 |
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2288.9 |
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2290.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
安全秩序 |
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2290.9 |
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2293.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
維護當事人在法院裡面 |
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2293.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
2295.9 |
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如同剛剛委員所說的 |
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2295.9 |
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2297.94 |
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一個安全的 |
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2299.48 |
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2301.48 |
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完成他在司法程序裡面 |
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2301.48 |
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2303.48 |
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該有的安全環境 |
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2303.48 |
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2305.48 |
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那另外最重要的是 |
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2305.48 |
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2307.48 |
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在法庭秩序的處罰 |
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2307.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
2309.48 |
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我們要及時化成疾化 |
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2309.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
2313.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
讓法官在法庭秩序的維護上 |
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2313.48 |
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2317.48 |
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能夠有一個很明確的依據 |
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2317.48 |
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2319.48 |
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能夠強化法庭秩序 |
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2319.48 |
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2321.48 |
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如同委員所說的 |
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2321.48 |
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2323.48 |
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這個都是關係到 |
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2323.48 |
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2326.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
民眾在法院 |
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2326.48 |
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2327.52 |
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他在 |
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2328.31 |
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2331.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
訴訟程序中所應該有的尊重 |
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2331.31 |
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2333.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
以上報告 |
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2333.31 |
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2335.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
那也還要再次謝謝委員們 |
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2335.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
2337.31 |
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支持我們司法院的工作同仁 |
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2337.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
2339.31 |
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謝謝 |
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2340.18 |
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2342.18 |
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好 謝謝高秘書長 |
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2342.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
2344.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
那接下來我們就有請 |
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2344.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
2346.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
全序部的淮次長進行說明 |
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2349.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
2350.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
主席各位委員各位女士 |
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2350.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
2351.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
今天大家早安 |
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2351.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
2352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
那今天大院審查 |
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2352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
2354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
翁曉林委員等18年凝聚的 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
2354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
2356.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
司法院組織法部 |
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2356.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
2358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
部門調明區的查問等16案 |
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2358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
2360.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
那這個案子整個方向上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
2360.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
2361.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
考試院跟全序部 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
2361.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
2364.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
都在這一次的包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
2364.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
2366.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
書記官跟護華警長 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
2366.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
2368.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
兼任僑隊長這部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
2368.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
2369.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
我們都全力以以支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
2369.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
2371.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
那這個案子在上個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
2371.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
2372.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
因為這需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
2372.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
2374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
兩院會諢或三院會諢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
2374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
2377.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
已經經過考試院已經通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
2377.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
2378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
那主要有三個意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
2378.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
2380.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
第一個那個書記官的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
2380.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
2382.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
調整部分我們建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
2382.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
2384.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
為了其他的在人事法制上明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
2384.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
2387.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
因此建議在相關的條文後面明寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
2387.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
2389.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
那個在三等書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
2389.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
2391.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
總員的三二分之一的 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
2391.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
2393.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
列兼任第六職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
2393.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
2395.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
那法院組織法部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
2395.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
2397.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
因為正列的第114條 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
2397.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
2399.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
之三有關於 |
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2399.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
2401.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
本次修正第28條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
2401.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
2403.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
那修正前十日前已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
2403.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
2404.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
在職的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
2404.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
2405.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
那因為如果萬一 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
2405.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
2406.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
沒有具有任用資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
2406.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
2407.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
在修正後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
2407.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
2408.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
可以繼續留用 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
2408.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
2409.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
那相關的體力條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
2409.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
2410.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
我們建議修正為 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
2410.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
2411.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
本法等等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
2411.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
2413.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
那施行前已經在職的 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
2413.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
2414.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
現職人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
2414.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
2417.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
未具修正後職務任用相關資格者 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
2417.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
2418.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
而繼續留用 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
2418.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
2421.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
原職稱員官等職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
2421.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
2422.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
至離職為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
2422.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
2424.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
這樣讓法制上更為完備 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
2424.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
2426.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
那另外因為懲戒法院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
2426.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
2427.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
第七條因為只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
2427.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
2428.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
是法警跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
2428.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
2430.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
法警長跟法警職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
2430.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
2431.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
那中間沒有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
2431.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
2432.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
法護法警長登天 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
2432.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
2434.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
這部分我們建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
2434.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
2436.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
請司法院來重新再考慮一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
2436.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
2438.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
那另外因為整部的法院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
2438.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
2440.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
因為它是屬於那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
2440.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
2442.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
把所有的官等職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
2442.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
2444.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
都全部定在法律上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
2444.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
2446.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
那事實上在行政院主改以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
2446.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
2447.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
包括考試院或行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
2447.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
2448.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
相關的組織法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
2448.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
2450.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
目前都是改以編制表來定定 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
2450.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
2452.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
那這部分我們也請司法院來參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
2452.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
2454.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
以後未來在相關部分上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
2454.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
2456.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
會讓它的組織調整上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
2456.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
2457.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
會更加彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
2457.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
2459.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
這也請司法院參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
2459.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
2460.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
那這次大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
2460.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
2461.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
委員的提案條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
2461.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
2463.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
委員跟目前我們三院 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
2463.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
2465.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
或兩院會先送到立法會 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
2465.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
2467.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
要送到立法院的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
2467.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
2469.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
大概唯一差別是在於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
2469.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
2471.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
這次呢那個因為法警部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
2471.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
2473.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
有委員提案建議修正為 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
2473.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
2475.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
三到五十等或建任第六十等 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
2475.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
2477.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
那這部分更好跟公務員任用法 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
2477.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
2479.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
第六條規定是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
2479.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
2481.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
第二十一個職務可以列 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
2481.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
2483.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
二到三十等的規定不相符 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
2483.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
2484.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
而且這一次的這樣的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
2484.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
2486.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
因為我們的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
2486.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
2488.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
書記官調整部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
2488.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
2490.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
它從它後面它還是有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
2490.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
2492.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
有總員額的一個限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
2492.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
2494.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
那同時我們又增設 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
2494.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
2495.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
那個隊長 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
2495.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
2497.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
那如果在這樣的調整之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
2497.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
2499.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
會讓這一次的三等書記 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
2499.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
2501.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
這樣的調整會比目前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
2501.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
2503.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
三等書記官的那個調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
2503.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
2505.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
更為優厚 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
2505.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
2506.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
因為在這種情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
2506.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
2508.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
而且目前司法 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
2508.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
2510.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
的華景是司法特考的 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
2510.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
2512.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
四等考試及格那盡用從 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
2512.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
2514.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
三十等任用所以跟現行的華景 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
2514.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
2516.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
職務列等是相當所以重上 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
2516.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
2518.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
那本部的建議是 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
2518.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
2520.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
華景仍然建議維持現行第三到 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
2520.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
2522.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
第五十等那以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
2522.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
2524.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
進行各位參考指教謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
2528.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
2529.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
好謝謝懷次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
2529.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
2531.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
那接下來我們有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
2531.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
2533.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
人事行政總處的張副人事長來進行說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
2539.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
2542.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
主席各位委員各位女士先生大家早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
2543.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
2545.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
今天非常感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
2545.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
2547.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
大院的司法法制委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
2547.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
2549.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
在召開審查法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
2549.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
2551.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
組織法等五項 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
2551.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
2552.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
法案的修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
2552.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
2554.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
要請本總處來列起 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
2554.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
2556.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
深感榮幸那底下我就 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
2556.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
2558.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
就 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
2558.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
2560.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
總處的意見做簡要的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
2560.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
2562.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
那第一項是有關於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
2562.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
2564.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
調高三等書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
2564.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
2566.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
法警長跟副法警長的職務列 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
2566.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
2568.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
等的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
2568.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
2570.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
這個部分是可以適度 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
2570.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
2572.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
反映他們的職責程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
2572.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
2574.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
這個部分我們盡表支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
2574.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
2576.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
但是職務列等的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
2576.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
2578.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
是考試院的權責所以我們也 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
2578.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
2580.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
尊重全部的說明跟大院 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
2580.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
2581.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
審查的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
2582.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
2584.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
那第二個部分是有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
2584.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
2586.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
調整法院檢查機關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
2586.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
2588.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
一等書記官跟二等 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
2588.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
2590.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
書記官的占比這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
2590.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
2592.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
2592.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
2594.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
在1111年 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
2594.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
2596.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
跟1114年這個考試院 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
2596.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
2598.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
跟刑事院有會審修正了 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
2598.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
2600.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
兩次的各機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
2600.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
2602.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
職稱及關等 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
2602.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
2604.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
職等原有配置準則 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
2604.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
2606.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
那這次方向都是朝 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
2606.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
2608.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
降低委任關等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
2608.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
2610.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
配置比例來充實機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
2610.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
2612.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
建任的核心人力的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
2612.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
2614.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
2614.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
2616.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
那這次的這個法案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
2616.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
2618.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
跟這個政策方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
2618.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
2620.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
是相一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
2620.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
2622.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
那這個部分我們也表示支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
2622.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
2624.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
並且尊重大院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
2624.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
2626.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
審議的結果那第三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
2626.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
2628.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
部分是有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
2628.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
2630.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
徵訂各該組織法修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
2630.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
2632.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
前已經在職的法警長 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
2632.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
2634.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
可是他未具 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
2634.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
2636.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
原職務列等這個調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
2636.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
2638.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
後的這個職務的任用資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
2639.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
2641.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
可以留用的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
2641.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
2643.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
那這個部分我們尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
2643.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
2645.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
主管機關全區部的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
2645.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
2647.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
跟大院審議的結果以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
2648.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
2650.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
好謝謝張副人事長的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
2650.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
2652.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
那其餘提出數目報告的機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
2652.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
2654.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
還有沒有要做口頭補充的 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
2657.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
2659.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
沒有的話那麼我們機關代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
2659.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
2661.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
就報告完畢相關數目的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
2661.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
2663.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
就請各位參閱並且列入 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
2663.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
2665.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
公報紀錄現在我們就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
2665.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
2667.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
2667.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
2669.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
本會委員詢答時間為八分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
2669.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
2671.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
必要時得延長兩分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
2671.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
2673.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
非本會委員質詢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
2673.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
2675.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
詢答時間為五分鐘並不再延長 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
2675.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
2677.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
那麼上午十點三十分 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
2677.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
2679.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
我們就截止發言登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
2679.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
2681.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
現在先請登記第一位的 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
2681.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
2683.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
陳昭之委員進行發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
2688.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
2690.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
謝謝主席有請司法院高秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
2690.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
2692.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
任總的副人事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
2692.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
2694.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
全區部次長跟法務部的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
2694.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
2696.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
2696.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
2698.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
2699.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
2700.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
到備詢台謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
2702.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
2703.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
2703.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
2704.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
2704.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
2705.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
四位首長早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
2705.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
2706.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
我麻煩你 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
2706.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
2708.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
就跟我一起先來看看這幾張 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
2708.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
2710.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
這幾年來地院的案件量 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
2710.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
2712.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
過去十一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
2712.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
2714.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
地方法院民事案件的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
2714.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
2716.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
在左邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
2716.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
2718.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
新收案件暴增百分之四十六 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
2718.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
2720.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
未截件數暴增 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
2720.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
2722.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
一百五十四percent |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
2722.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
2724.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
那至於刑事案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
2724.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
2726.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
右邊的部分未截件的數 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
2726.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
2728.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
暴增一百二十二percent |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
2728.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
2730.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
那過去刑事案每一個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
2730.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
2732.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
就是說平均每件所需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
2732.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
2734.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
天數是六十六天 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
2734.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
2736.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
現在已經拉長到 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
2736.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
2738.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
一百一十二天 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
2738.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
2740.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
那背後的原因我想各位首長應該能夠理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
2740.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
2742.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
那我接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
2742.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
2744.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
我們繼續看地檢署的案件量 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
2744.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
2746.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
新收案件逐年 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
2746.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
2748.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
地增去年新收案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
2748.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
2750.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
將近七十萬件 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
2750.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
2752.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
未截件數十三萬件 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
2752.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
2754.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
案量一直增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
2754.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
2756.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
怎麼處理的完呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
2760.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
2762.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
那我們再繼續來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
2762.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
2764.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
最近幾年這個大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
2764.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
2765.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
大概都清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
2765.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
2767.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
地檢署跟法院的案量暴增 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
2767.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
2769.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
不只是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
2769.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
2771.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
書記官過牢 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
2771.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
2773.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
現在還有法警剛剛幾位我也提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
2773.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
2775.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
還要維持這個法庭秩序 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
2775.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
2777.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
要壓解人犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
2777.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
2779.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
他的情務越來越重 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
2779.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
2781.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
那現在的生前體制根本留不住人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
2781.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
2783.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
那這次司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
2783.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
2785.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
提出修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
2785.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
2787.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
可是我的辦公室受到很多的懲情 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
2787.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
2789.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
基層法警問 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
2789.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
2792.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
為什麼只有法警長跟副法警長 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
2792.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
2794.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
他這個直接是提升的 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
2794.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
2797.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
那基層法警承擔了很多工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
2797.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
2799.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
直接卻沒有提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
2799.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
2800.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
這樣合理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
2800.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
2802.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
所以我主張基層法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
2802.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
2804.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
值等 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
2804.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
2806.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
應該一併提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
2806.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
2808.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
我看是不是全序部跟司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
2808.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
2810.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
能夠先做這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
2810.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
2812.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
就再回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
2813.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
2814.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
2814.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
2815.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
就是基層法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
2815.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
2817.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
為什麼這次都沒有去改變呢 |
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跟委員報告 |
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因為當初這個在 |
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跟全序部協商的時候 |
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2825.89 |
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全序部商量的時候 |
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也是有考慮到剛剛全序部所講的 |
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那些值等問題 |
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所以就沒有想到說 |
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就暫時先讓 |
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法監長還有他們可以 |
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小隊長先來做 |
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2839.89 |
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我還是希望你針對我的問題 |
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因為時間有限 |
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就是基層的法警 |
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為什麼都不動他呢 |
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就是 |
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2847.93 |
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剛剛跟委員報告 |
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2847.93 |
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2848.93 |
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有一張小量 |
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2849.93 |
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可是 |
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2850.93 |
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老實說 |
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2852.93 |
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我們也是希望 |
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2853.93 |
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他們能夠提升 |
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2855.93 |
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所以非常感謝委員 |
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能夠在這一次的修法裡面 |
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2859.93 |
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一併把基層 |
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你覺得障礙是什麼 |
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2861.93 |
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法警 |
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2862.93 |
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你基本法沒有 |
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當初的障礙只是 |
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單純考試列等的關係 |
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考量到這個問題而已 |
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2870.93 |
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可是就如同委員所說的 |
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2872.97 |
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基層法警就如同 |
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2873.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
因為案件量增加 |
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2873.97 |
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2874.97 |
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工作一定增加 |
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2874.97 |
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2876.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
責任也增加 |
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2878.97 |
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當然一定是的 |
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2880.97 |
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那為什麼沒有考慮到基層法警呢 |
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2882.97 |
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就是剛剛跟委員報告 |
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2882.97 |
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2883.97 |
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當時就考量到 |
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考試關係 |
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2887.97 |
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所以一下子就這樣決定 |
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2888.97 |
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謝謝委員 |
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全序部有回答嗎 |
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2892.97 |
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那個我跟委員報告一下 |
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因為第一個 |
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2896.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
現行公務員任用法第六條已經規定 |
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2896.97 |
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2897.97 |
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他說每個值等 |
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2899.97 |
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最多是跨二或三值等 |
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2900.01 |
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2901.01 |
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那現行法警已經是從 |
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2901.01 |
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2903.01 |
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三到五值等已經跨到 |
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2903.01 |
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2904.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
三值等 |
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2904.01 |
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2905.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
市長我明白你講的理由 |
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2905.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
2906.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
第一個我要跟你講 |
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2906.01 |
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2908.01 |
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有個權理制度不是嗎 |
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2908.01 |
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2910.01 |
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有個權宜制度你們也在用啊 |
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2910.01 |
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2911.01 |
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為什麼不能用 |
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2911.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
2912.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
這是第一個 |
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2912.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
2913.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
第二個 |
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2913.01 |
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2915.01 |
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所有的制度都是人定的 |
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2915.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
2917.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
你有與時俱進 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
2917.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
2919.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
如果人在流失 |
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2919.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
2920.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
工作量在增加 |
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2920.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
2923.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
你還要保持幾十年前的規定嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
2924.24 |
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2925.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
市長對不對 |
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2926.24 |
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就是說這個權宜 |
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2926.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
2928.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
你們有個權宜制度 |
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2928.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
2930.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
就是權宜制度 |
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2930.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
2932.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
那很多法規為什麼要重修 |
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2932.24 |
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2934.24 |
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就是要與時俱進 |
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2934.24 |
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2936.24 |
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所以制度是人定的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
2937.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
我是覺得這個理由 |
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2937.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
2939.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
不該成為理由 |
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2941.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
就是市長我讓你做一下參考 |
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2941.24 |
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2942.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
那這個 |
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2943.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
我們再來看一下 |
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2944.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
司法院提出的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
2945.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
這個法院組織法 |
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2945.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
2946.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
副表修正 |
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2946.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
2947.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
它修改了 |
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2947.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
2949.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
法官、檢察官、書記官的原額 |
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2949.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
2950.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
但我仔細看 |
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2951.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
其實問題很大 |
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2951.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
2953.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
以地方法院來說 |
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2953.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
2954.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
左邊這裡 |
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2954.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
2955.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
第一類的地院 |
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2955.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
2956.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
法官家庭長 |
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2956.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
2958.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
本來最高原額是200人 |
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2958.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
2960.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
書記官最高原額是300人 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
2960.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
2962.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
那修正草案第一類之一 |
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2962.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
2966.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
就是說案量30萬件以上的法院 |
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2966.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
2968.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
法官最高的原額是250人 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
2968.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
2971.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
書記官是375人 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
2971.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
2974.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
那法官跟書記官的配比 |
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2975.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
2977.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
依然是1比1.5 |
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2977.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
2978.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
為什麼會這樣呢 |
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2979.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
2982.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
案量增加1.5倍夠嗎 |
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2982.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
2984.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
是不是司法院先回答這一點 |
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2984.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
2985.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
你覺得這樣夠嗎 |
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2985.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
2986.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
這個配比夠嗎 |
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2986.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
2987.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
合理嗎 |
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2987.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
2988.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
委員報告 |
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2988.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
2989.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
案量增加 |
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2989.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
2991.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
法官跟書記官同時都有負擔 |
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2991.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
2993.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
其實就配比來講 |
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2994.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
2995.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
夠不夠 |
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2995.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
2998.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
我很難講說一定夠 |
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2998.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
3000.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
因為書記官工作的增加 |
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3000.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
3001.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
老實說 |
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3001.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
3003.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
我覺得應該要到1.8到2左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
3003.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3004.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
因為我曾經說 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
3004.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
3006.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
書記官工作現在幾乎是2.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
3006.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
3007.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
你說應該到多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
3007.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
3008.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
1.8到2 |
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3008.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3010.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
1.8到是理想是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
3010.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
3012.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
可是那同樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
3012.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3013.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
老實說 |
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3013.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3015.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
不只書記官原額要增加 |
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3015.62 |
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3017.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
法官原額也要增加 |
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3017.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3018.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
好 秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
3018.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
3019.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
你講的這個當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
3019.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
3021.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
表面上是合情合理 |
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3021.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3022.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
但是你也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
3022.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
3023.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
書記官流失很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
3023.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3025.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
我先稍微等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
3025.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
3027.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
我再請問你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
3027.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
3029.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
總原額法有沒有限制你這個處理 |
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3029.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3031.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
總原額法本身有沒有限定 |
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3031.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3033.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
限制了你這個對於這個配比 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
3034.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3036.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
總原額法本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
3036.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3037.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
沒有嗎 有 |
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3037.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3038.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
不是 |
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3038.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3040.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
配比不是在總原額法限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3040.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3041.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
總原額法是限制了 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
3041.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3043.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
我們所有的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
3043.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3044.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
對 但是我剛剛強調說 |
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3044.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3046.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
書記官就是不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
3046.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3047.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
對 不夠 |
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3047.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3049.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
很多法官還甚至在幫忙書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
3049.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3051.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
這樣怎麼讓法官好好做事 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
3051.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3053.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
都有 他們都要互相合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
3053.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3054.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
所以我的重點說 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
3054.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3055.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
為什麼這個配比 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
3055.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3056.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
你覺得合理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3056.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3057.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
能夠調高 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
3057.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3058.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
我是費心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
3058.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3059.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
總原額法你就老實說 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
3059.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3061.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
我再給你支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
3061.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3062.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
你覺得會不會有限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3062.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3063.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
3063.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3065.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
總原額法是我們的魔咒 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3065.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3067.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
魔咒 謝謝你 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3067.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3068.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
來 請問任總 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3068.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3069.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
來 任總 麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3071.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3073.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
為什麼要限制總原額 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3073.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3074.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
詐騙案這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3074.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3076.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
地檢跟地院都要崩了 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3076.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3078.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
書記官累到沒人想做 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3079.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3080.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
你繼續卡原額 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
3080.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3081.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
你校上地檢跟法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
3081.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3083.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
整個這個看換掉嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3083.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3085.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
1.5倍顯然就不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3085.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3087.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
1.5倍顯然不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3087.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3089.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
對不對 任總 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3090.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3092.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
你們聽到這個說法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3092.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3094.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
你聽到我談的話嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3094.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3095.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
就不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3095.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3097.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
你怎麼在學健保那個總額 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3097.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3098.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
那個問題出很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3098.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3099.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
你這裡也可以學這個總額字 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3099.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3101.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
你要看與時俱進 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3101.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3103.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3103.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3106.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
其實在司法的原額的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3106.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3107.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
你限制總原額 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3107.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3108.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
其實就是寬度 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3108.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3109.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
這是魔咒 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3109.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3111.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
今天秘書長老實講 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3111.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3112.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
我給他做支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3112.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3113.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
我支持他 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3113.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3114.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
魔咒 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3114.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3116.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
現在回到你們身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3117.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3119.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
這個魔咒要打開啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3119.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3122.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
我來跟這個委員做報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3122.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3125.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
在我們各機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3125.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3128.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
在近十年其實就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3128.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3130.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
它的原額的增減 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3130.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3133.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
算是比較平盤的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3133.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3134.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
狀態底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3134.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3136.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
平盤就是沒有增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3136.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3138.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
我們最近的十年增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3138.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3140.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
司法機關跟檢察機關原額 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3140.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3142.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
大概有三千個左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3142.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3143.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
限制總的也許是個方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3143.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3145.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
兩千多百七十一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3145.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3148.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
司法院大概增加了一千四百七十六 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3148.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3151.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
檢察機關增加了一千四百九十五 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3151.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3154.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
剛剛提到的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3155.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3157.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
目前司法機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3157.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3159.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
還在考試分發或領埔中 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3159.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3161.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
或者是未運用的缺額 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3161.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3163.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
還有一千一百一十九個 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3163.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3165.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
檢察機關有四百七十八個 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3165.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3167.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
我剛剛給你那麼多的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3167.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3169.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
你那個總原額的先生你好好聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3169.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3171.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
我現在跟他們站在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3171.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3174.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
這個不及司法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3174.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3176.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
司法院 秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3176.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3178.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
我請你回去研議多少比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3178.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3180.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
以現在目前的業務量 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3180.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3182.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
你認為多少比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3182.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3184.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
是比較恰當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
3184.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3185.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
我完全支持你 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3185.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3187.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
你請你給我的然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
3187.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3188.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
我請任總 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
3188.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3189.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
要來思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
3189.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3190.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
3190.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3191.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
這個問題很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3191.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3192.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
我現在再請教司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3192.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3193.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
我們來看高等法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3193.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3194.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
現在不是只有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3194.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3195.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
這個地院的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3195.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3196.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
第一類法庭院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3196.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3197.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
法庭庭長將法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3197.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3198.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
本來最高四百八十人 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3198.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3200.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
書記官四百八十八人 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3200.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3202.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
修正查案變成了法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3202.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3203.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
三百六十人 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3203.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3204.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
書記官三百六十八人 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3204.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3206.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
為什麼原額變少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3206.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3207.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
請你告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3207.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3209.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
為什麼原額變少了呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3211.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3212.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
來 我聽我命 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3212.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3214.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
又是總原額法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3214.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3215.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
你挪來挪去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3217.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3218.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
工作量減少嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3218.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
3219.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
為什麼我剛剛已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
3219.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
3220.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
秀資料了 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
3220.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
3222.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
為什麼這裡是原額變少呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
3222.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
3223.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
給我一個清楚的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
3223.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
3224.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
好嗎 很簡單的 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
3224.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
3225.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
清楚理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
3225.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
3227.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
其實很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
3227.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
3229.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
為什麼變少 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
3229.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
3230.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
3231.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
3232.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
地院的案件是 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
3232.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
3234.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
增加的非常快 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
3234.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
3236.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
那高院的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
3236.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
3237.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
稍微慢一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
3237.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
3238.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
相對也會增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
3238.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
3239.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
對 相對會增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
3239.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
3240.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
因為它慢 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
3240.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
3241.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
所以我們就保守一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
3241.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
3242.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
當然最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
3242.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
3243.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
還是總原額法 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
3243.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
3244.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
好 就暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
3244.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
3245.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
就是這句 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
3245.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
3246.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
3246.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
3247.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
好 任總 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
3247.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
3249.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
麻煩你 副人事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
3249.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
3250.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
高院也是要接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
3250.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
3251.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
全國上訴的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
3251.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
3253.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
你看看右邊這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
3253.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
3254.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
今年一月到六月 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
3254.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
3256.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
民事上訴就六千六百七十二件 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
3256.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
3257.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
刑事上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
3257.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
3260.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
一萬四千八百三十九件 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
3260.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
3261.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
老實說 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
3261.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
3262.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
大家都過勞了 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
3262.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
3265.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
我們今天才談到修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
3265.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
3268.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
結果非但不提高整體的原額 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
3268.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
3270.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
還把原額挪來挪去 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
3271.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
3272.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
像話嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
3272.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
3274.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
你要這樣卡 卡到什麼時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
3274.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
3275.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
3275.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
3276.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
其實剛好已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
3276.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
3277.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
3277.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
3279.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
在各機關的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
3279.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
3281.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
總數沒有變動之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
3281.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
3282.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
其實司法跟檢察機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
3282.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
3284.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
我們近十年已經補了三千個 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
3284.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
3285.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
沒有 你上一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
3285.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
3287.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
你上一次挪到是108年 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
3287.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
3289.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
現在其實司法體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
3289.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
3290.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
這個業務量大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
3290.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
3291.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
其實大家都看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
3291.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
3294.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
然後大家也一起在解決這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
3294.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
3297.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
從補充人力 提高待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
3297.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
3298.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
其實剛剛也有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
3298.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
3299.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
兩個都有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
3299.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
3300.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
這個互不一致 缺乏業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
3300.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
3301.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
另外 現在今天要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
3301.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
3303.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
其實是待遇科學研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
3303.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
3304.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
提高列等 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
3304.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
3305.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
然後另外一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
3305.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
3307.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
其實我們在五六月的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
3307.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
3309.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
有到司法院跟檢察機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
3309.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
3311.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
你就告訴我原額 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
3311.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
3313.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
原額法你要不要好好檢討一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
3313.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
3314.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
總要法其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
3314.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
3315.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
其實總要法 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
3315.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
3317.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
它有它的機制可以處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
3317.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
3320.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
好 我現在請教法務部代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
3320.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
3321.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
我們來看看地檢署 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
3321.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
3323.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
以現在詐騙案量這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
3323.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
3325.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
有這麼多申請定執行型的 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
3325.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
3326.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
這個業務量 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
3326.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
3328.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
這次的檢察官 數據官 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
3328.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
3329.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
原額所增加的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
3329.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
3330.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
請你回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
3331.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
3332.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
你覺得夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
3333.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
3334.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
3334.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
3335.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
要不要再想一想 夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
3335.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
3337.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
我們當然還是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
3337.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
3339.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
司法人員的人數可以增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
3339.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
3340.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
因為現在確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
3340.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
3341.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
在打擊犯罪上 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
3341.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
3342.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
大家都很努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
3342.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
3344.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
所以案件量是非常大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
3344.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
3346.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
那你有受到總原額影響嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
3346.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
3347.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
當然有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
3347.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
3348.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
當然有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
3348.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
3350.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
當然有嘛 總原額影響嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
3351.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
3352.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
3352.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
3353.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
我想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
3353.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
3354.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
因為今天是司長來 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
3354.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
3355.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
3355.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
3357.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
你真的要為你的基層們 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
3357.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
3358.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
我今天就當作 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
3358.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
3359.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
你代表部長來 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
3359.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
3360.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
3360.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
3361.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
你要為你的基層想一想 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
3361.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
3362.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
3362.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
3363.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
到底這樣夠不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
3363.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
3365.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
有什麼障礙跟困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
3365.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
3367.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
要讓我們知道啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
3367.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
3368.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
所以大家還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
3368.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
3369.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
回到一個總原額量 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
3369.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
3370.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
這簡直是魔咒 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
3370.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
3372.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
我們想辦法把它拆開 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
3372.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
3373.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
也不是說大開放嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
3373.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
3375.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
我們要有一個合理的數字嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
3375.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
3376.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
我剛剛一開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
3376.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
3378.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
努力給你們這麼多的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
3378.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
3379.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
好 我現在再請 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
3379.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
3380.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
這個司法院法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
3380.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
3381.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
法務部人總看看這個新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
3381.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
3382.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
今年三月開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
3382.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
3383.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
書記關的紀錄費 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
3383.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
3385.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
剛剛這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
3385.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
3386.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
委員也有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
3386.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
3388.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
由四千七調到六千零七十元 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
3388.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
3391.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
這個是動漲28年以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
3391.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
3392.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
第一次調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
3392.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
3394.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
可是今年五月媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
3394.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
3395.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
以新北來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
3395.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
3396.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
它缺二七十一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
3396.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
3397.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
拿兩個人報到啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
3397.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
3399.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
你這個提升的幅度 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
3399.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
3400.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
就是不夠啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
3403.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
3404.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
你現在怎麼處理這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
3404.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
3406.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
書記關遠遠不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
3406.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
3407.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
你怎麼處理這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
3408.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
3410.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
就是說紀錄的紀錄費 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
3410.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
3412.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
這個我們對一些人才的流失 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
3412.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
3413.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
基本上就兩件事嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
3413.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
3414.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
一個是薪資待遇嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
3414.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
3416.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
一個是工作環境的改善嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
3417.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
3418.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
那現在我們提到它這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
3418.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
3419.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
動漲28年 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
3421.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
3423.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
提高到這樣子多了一千三百塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
3427.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
3429.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
那你覺得還有其他的方法處理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
3429.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
3430.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
這樣夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
3431.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
3433.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
跟委員報告絕對不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
3433.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
3434.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
絕對不夠嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
3434.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
3435.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
3435.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
3436.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
我們當初 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
3435.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
3439.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
是希望能夠調到一萬五到兩萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
3439.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
3440.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
3440.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
3441.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
差這麼遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
3441.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
3443.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
可是我們也要感謝它 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
3443.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
3444.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
他們已經提高了 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
3445.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
3446.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
那秘書院 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
3446.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
3448.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
那你預期明年多少人會報到 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
3449.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
3450.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
如果以這個費 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
3450.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
3451.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
老實說 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
3451.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
3452.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
新北地院 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
3452.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
3455.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
我們現在很努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
3455.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
3456.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
可是我相信報到率 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
3456.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
3458.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
還是會在50 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
3458.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
3459.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
還是很慘嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
3459.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
3460.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
還是會很慘 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
3460.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
3462.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
那如果你不針對書記關稍微處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
3462.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
3463.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
如果就算調薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
3463.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
3465.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
調薪是大家一起調 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
3465.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
3466.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
你如果不針對書記關 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
3466.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
3467.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
它還是可以往別處去嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
3467.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
3468.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
3468.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
3470.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
所以希望能夠支持調薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
3470.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
3472.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
所以最後這一張 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
3472.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
3475.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
就是請四位首長代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
3475.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
3477.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
就是請你們一個月內來回覆我 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
3477.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
3478.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
當然其中還有兩桌 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
3478.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
3479.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
3479.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
3480.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
我請任總 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
3480.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
3482.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
你還是要針對走員額 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
3483.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
3484.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
你進行檢討嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
3484.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
3485.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
你好好想一想嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
3485.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
3486.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
3486.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
3487.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
3487.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
3489.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
總委院其實都會檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
3489.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
3490.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
合理的配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
3490.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
3491.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
我要一些說具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
3491.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
3492.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
合理的配置我們都支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
3492.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
3493.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
另外剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
3493.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
3494.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
委員提到的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
3494.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
3495.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
待遇的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
3495.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
3496.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
其實我們在今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
3496.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
3499.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
行政院其實7月2號有宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
3499.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
3500.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
我們這次就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
3500.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
3501.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
鼓勵基層 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
3501.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
3502.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
3502.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
3504.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
我們把那個專業菜籽用定額調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
3504.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
3506.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
所以書記關會再加2000 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
3506.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
3507.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
會再加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
3507.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
3508.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
會再加2000 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
3508.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
3509.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
我知道會再加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
3509.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
3510.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
我才問他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
3510.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
3511.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
會到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
3511.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
3512.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
會再 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
3512.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
3514.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
從疊加的基礎上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
3514.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
3516.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
會再加4% |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
3516.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
3518.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
所以會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
3518.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
3519.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
會基層的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
3519.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
3520.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
會到9.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
3520.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
3521.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
會再上去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
3521.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
3523.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
剛剛委員講的很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
3523.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
3525.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
工作環境也是的確很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
3525.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
3527.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
我們今年9月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
3527.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
3529.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
我們就會把院檢跟警察機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
3529.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
3530.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
調查機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
3530.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
3532.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
我們會把它都在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
3532.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
3533.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
3533.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
3536.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
也提出一些可以協助的面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
3536.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
3537.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
就是工作環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
3537.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
3539.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
我想在司法機制都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
3539.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
3540.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
那個行政的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
3540.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
3541.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
行政的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
3541.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
3543.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
跟他的工作方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
3543.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
3544.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
跟給他的工具等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
3544.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
3546.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
其實都一併要去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
3546.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
3548.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
可能不是單一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
3548.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
3550.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
一個月可以吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
3550.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
3552.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
請麻煩你給我一個書面檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
3552.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
3554.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
司法院這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
3554.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
3555.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
是不是兩週研議一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
3555.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
3557.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
你覺得法官跟書記關的配比如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
3557.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
3559.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
比較能符合現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
3559.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
3561.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
現在的這個業務量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
3561.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
3562.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
3562.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
3563.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
要一個月可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
3563.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
3564.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
3564.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
3565.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
好 改一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
3565.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
3566.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
法務部就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
3566.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
3567.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
本次修法檢察官 |
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3567.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
3569.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
這個調整原額是否足夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
3569.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
3571.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
也請法務部給我這個資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
3571.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
3572.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
就誠實的告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
3572.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
3573.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
你們覺得夠不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
3573.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
3575.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
整體有案司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
3575.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
3577.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
法務部跟人種的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
3577.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
3579.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
書記關的紀錄費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
3581.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
3582.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
夠不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
3582.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
3584.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
當然你剛剛講的另外一個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
3584.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
3586.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
你這個怎麼提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
3586.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
3587.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
我還是回到這幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
3587.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
3588.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
大家關心的醫療界 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
3588.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
3589.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
3589.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
3590.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
大家跑了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
3590.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
3591.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
護理師都不見了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
3591.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
3592.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
病房都關了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
3592.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
3593.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
我們從哪間講講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
3593.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
3594.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
就是薪資待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
3594.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
3596.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
有尊嚴的工作環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
3596.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
3597.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
3597.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
3598.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
那就是請世衛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
3598.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
3599.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
我等待你們資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
3599.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
3600.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
一週一個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
3600.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
3602.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
請給我書面的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
3602.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
3603.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
3603.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
3604.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
3605.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
3607.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
是 謝謝陳昭臻委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
3613 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
3616.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
好 接下來我們有請吳宗憲委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
3620.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
3621.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
3621.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
3622.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
我們麻煩法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
3624.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
3625.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
好 先有請法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
3627.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
3628.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
好 市長你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
3628.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
3630.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
我想今天我們審查法院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
3630.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
3631.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
3631.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
3632.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
司法院跟法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
3632.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
3633.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
對我的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
3633.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
3634.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
大致都是支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
3634.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
3635.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
所以我很感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
3635.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
3636.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
那今天質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
3636.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
3638.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
我就不在那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
3638.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
3639.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
法院上面浪費時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
3639.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
3641.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
那我就這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
3641.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
3643.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
就最近大家全民比較在乎的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
3643.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
3645.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
兩個事件請教法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
3645.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
3646.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
第一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
3646.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
3647.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
警察登門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
3647.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
3649.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
就那個由不得你這個影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
3649.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
3650.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
製作人查水表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
3650.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
3651.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
移送北檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
3651.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
3653.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
第二個是國營事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
3653.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
3654.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
台糖到底有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
3654.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
3656.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
這個食安通報的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
3656.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
3657.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
那進入質詢前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
3657.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
3658.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
我想我先確認一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
3658.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
3660.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
法務部裡面有那個法律事務司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
3660.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
3662.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
官網寫得非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
3662.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
3664.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
那市長我想這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
3664.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
3667.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
貴司他負責處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
3667.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
3668.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
就是法規諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
3668.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
3669.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
跟法律問題的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
3669.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
3670.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
這個沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
3670.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
3671.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
官網就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
3671.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
3673.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
好 那所以我今天不是問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
3673.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
3674.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
個案的事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
3674.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
3676.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
也不會去干預任何偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
3676.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
3678.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
我今天討論的是就法律原理原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
3678.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
3679.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
既有解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
3679.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
3680.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
最高法案的解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
3680.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
3682.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
然後我來問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
3682.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
3684.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
法務部到底問題出在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
3684.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
3686.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
那個今天我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
3686.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
3688.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
由不得你這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
3688.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
3689.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
其實警政署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
3689.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
3691.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
最近一直被問的一個問題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
3691.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
3693.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
為什麼你查的超級快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
3693.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
3695.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
那我今天想要問法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
3695.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
3697.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
這個更根本的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
3697.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
3698.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
就是這支影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
3698.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
3701.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
到底夠不夠成文書的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
3701.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
3703.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
如果連這個定義都過不了的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
3703.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
3705.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
那更不要談說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
3705.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
3706.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
偽造准文書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
3706.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
3709.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
或偽造私文書等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
3709.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
3711.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
如果你連文書的構成要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
3711.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
3712.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
都不符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
3712.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
3713.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
更不要說有後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
3713.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
3715.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
可能產生的偽造文書的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
3715.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
3717.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
好 那我這次要講一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
3717.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
3718.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
東西就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
3718.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
3720.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
警察這次直接鎖定特定人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
3720.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
3722.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
跑到他們家去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
3722.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
3723.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
他做了三件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
3723.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
3725.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
第一個 確定是不是影片製作人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
3725.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
3727.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
第二個 要他考慮下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
3727.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
3729.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
第三個 要他到案做筆錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
3729.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
3731.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
我想請問市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
3731.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
3733.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
警察跑到當事人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
3733.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
3735.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
跟他講這些這是屬於零檢嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
3736.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
3738.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
我想那個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
3738.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
3739.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
所提的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
3739.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
3741.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
是警察他在行使職權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
3741.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
3743.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
不是零檢對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
3743.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
3744.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
這個是不是零檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
3744.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
3746.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
我想警察他們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
3746.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
3747.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
沒關係我想那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
3747.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
3748.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
那個市長這個很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
3748.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
3749.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
不是零檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
3749.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
3751.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
因為零檢是對不特定人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
3751.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
3752.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
那我們今天已經知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
3752.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
3753.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
這個人是誰跑到他家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
3753.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
3755.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
這個應該不符合零檢的要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
3755.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
3756.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
我想這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
3756.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
3758.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
這個應該是沒有爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
3758.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
3760.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
那我今天的問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
3760.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
3761.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
如果依照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
3761.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
3762.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
4-535號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
3762.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
3764.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
我們對於不特定人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
3764.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
3765.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
在公眾場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
3765.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
3766.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
警察對他零檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
3766.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
3768.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
都必須告知事由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
3768.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
3770.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
出示證件表明身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
3770.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
3771.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
都有這麼嚴格的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
3771.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
3772.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
就我們對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
3772.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
3775.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
比零檢強度更高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
3775.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
3776.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
跑到人家家去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
3776.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
3778.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
但是卻沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
3778.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
3779.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
連這個最基本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
3779.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
3780.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
零檢該進的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
3780.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
3781.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
都沒有進到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
3781.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
3783.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
甚至還要求他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
3783.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
3784.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
要下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
3784.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
3785.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
問他要不要下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
3785.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
3786.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
或是要來做筆錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
3788 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
3789 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
我覺得這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
3789 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
3790 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
發生問題了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
3790 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
3791 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
你今天做了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
3791 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
3793 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
侵害是比零檢更高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
3793 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
3794 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
但是你自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
3794 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
3795 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
所做到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
3795 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
3796 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
卻比零檢在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
3796 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
3798 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
市制上面要求的更低 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
3798 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
3799 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
那這個就有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
3799 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
3800 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
很大問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
3800 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
3801 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
好那今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
3801 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
3802 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
市長你剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
3802 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
3803 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
這個警察他依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
3803 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
3804 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
他調查權去調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
3804 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
3805 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
市長講的沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
3805 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
3806 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
但是我今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
3806 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
3807 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
不是在討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
3807 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
3808 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
有沒有調查權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
3808 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
3810 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
而是調查權的界限在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
3810 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
3811 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
警察可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
3811 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
3812 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
濫用調查權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
3812 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
3814 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
我愛怎麼樣就怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
3814 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
3815 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
我愛去你家問你什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
3815 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
3816 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
我就去你家問你什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
3816 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
3817 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
我今天在講的是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
3817 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
3818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
我想市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
3819.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
3820.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
我們以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
3820.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
3821.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
同地檢署的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
3821.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
3822.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
檢察官同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
3822.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
3824.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
所以我想我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
3824.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
3825.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
法律見解不會差太遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
3825.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
3826.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
就是這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
3826.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
3828.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
其實警察是有問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
3828.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
3829.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
你跑到人家家去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
3829.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
3830.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
做這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
3830.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
3831.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
我覺得我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
3831.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
3832.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
會打一個問號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
3832.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
3834.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
那市長我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
3834.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
3836.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
沒有報檢察官指揮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
3836.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
3837.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
沒有搜索票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
3837.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
3838.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
沒有拘票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
3838.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
3839.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
沒有通知書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
3839.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
3840.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
直接叫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
3840.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
3841.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
跑到人家家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
3841.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
3842.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
說要做筆錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
3842.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
3844.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
還問他願不願意下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
3845.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
3846.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
你認為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
3846.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
3848.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
有沒有超出證據保全的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
3849.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
3850.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
我想那個警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
3850.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
3851.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
他職權的行使 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
3851.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
3853.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
有警察他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
3853.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
3854.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
有一定的那個SOP |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
3854.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
3856.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
那在沒有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
3856.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
3857.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
尚未報警 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
3857.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
3858.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
檢察官指揮之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
3858.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
3860.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
那警方他們都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
3860.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
3861.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
依照他們職權行使的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
3861.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
3862.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
不是 那不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
3862.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
3863.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
市長如果你是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
3863.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
3864.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
承辦檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
3864.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
3865.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
你看到警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
3865.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
3866.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
在你的案子這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
3866.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
3867.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
你會不會跟他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
3867.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
3868.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
你不可以這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
3869.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
3871.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
那個就是這個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
3871.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
3873.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
現在已經報請北檢指揮了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
3873.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
3874.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
不不不 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
3874.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
3875.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
他當時沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
3875.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
3877.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
如果你今天收到一個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
3877.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
3878.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
發現警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
3878.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
3880.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
那個警察是這麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
3880.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
3881.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
您是承辦檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
3881.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
3884.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
你會認同警察的這個作法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
3884.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
3885.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
因為這個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
3885.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
3887.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
我們當時並沒有在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
3887.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
3888.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
沒有看到全券 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
3888.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
3889.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
到底警方當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
3889.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
3890.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
是用什麼樣的一個行事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
3890.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
3891.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
不是啦 我沒有問個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
3891.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
3892.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
好啦 市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
3892.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
3893.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
因為這是個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
3893.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
3894.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
市長我大概了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
3894.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
3895.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
可能你也不方便 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
3895.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
3896.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
回答這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
3896.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
3897.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
但我必須講一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
3897.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
3898.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
我六 我今天是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
3898.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
3901.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
一個警察在沒有檢察官指揮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
3901.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
3902.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
沒有搜索票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
3902.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
3903.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
沒有拘票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
3903.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
3904.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
沒有任何通知書的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
3904.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
3906.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
就跑到人家家去做這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
3906.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
3908.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
基本上我想全國的自打官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
3908.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
3910.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
沒有人會接受這樣的作法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
3910.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
3911.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
因為這樣就回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
3911.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
3913.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
回到那種集權國家啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
3913.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
3914.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
警察愛到你家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
3914.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
3915.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
幹嘛就幹嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
3915.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
3916.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
反正我就是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
3917.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
3920.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
比你高一等的權限嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
3920.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
3921.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
我到你家幹什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
3921.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
3922.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
那你就等著害怕而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
3922.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
3925.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
我想這個不是我們願意看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
3925.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
3926.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
而且你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
3926.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
3928.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
刑事訴訟法175條第四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
3928.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
3929.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
傳喚一般證人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
3929.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
3930.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
都還要求傳票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
3930.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
3933.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
至少要在到場旗日前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
3933.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
3934.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
24小時就要送達 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
3934.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
3935.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
連刑事訴訟法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
3935.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
3937.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
對於證人都有這樣的保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
3937.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
3938.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
更何況今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
3940.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
3941.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
也沒有人告他啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
3941.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
3943.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
也沒有任何犯罪事實出來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
3943.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
3945.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
那他到底在刑事訴訟法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
3945.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
3946.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
他的規類是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
3946.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
3947.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
我想他應該不是被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
3947.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
3949.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
那你竟然可以去做這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
3949.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
3951.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
我個人不認同啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
3951.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
3953.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
否則刑事175條第四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
3953.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
3955.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
對於證人的這個規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
3955.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
3956.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
也等於是虛設嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
3956.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
3957.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
我愛怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
3957.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
3958.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
我當警察愛怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
3958.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
3960.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
因為我一直在保護警 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
3960.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
3961.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
保障警察的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
3961.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
3963.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
但為同樣的不能接受警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
3963.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
3965.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
濫權做這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
3965.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
3966.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
因為我認為這個對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
3966.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
3968.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
刑事訴訟法的程序正當性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
3970.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
3972.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
保障其實是超過的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
3972.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
3974.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
更何況說吼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
3974.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
3975.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
當時就有一個老人家在家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
3975.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
3977.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
那甚至他問警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
3977.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
3978.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
問他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
3978.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
3979.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
是誰要我下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
3979.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
3980.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
有人提告嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
3980.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
3982.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
警察其實是答不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
3982.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
3983.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
當場他連 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
3983.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
3985.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
自由犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
3985.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
3987.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
案遊也講不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
3987.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
3989.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
他是後來才擠了五個法條出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
3989.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
3991.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
所以這個東西我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
3991.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
3992.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
都不妥 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
3992.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
3993.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
你今天到人家家去執行公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
3993.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
3994.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
就你連他犯了什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
3994.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
3995.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
你都講不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
3995.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
3997.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
其實這個是很離譜啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
3997.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
3998.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
3998.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
3999.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
簡單的講這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
3999.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
4001.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
當初根本沒有理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
4001.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
4003.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
你就直接去查水表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
4003.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
4004.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
我想很悲哀的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
4004.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
4005.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
我學生時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
4005.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
4007.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
我跟著林三田教授去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
4007.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
4008.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
為了刑法100條上街頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
4008.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
4010.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
為了台灣人民的言論自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
4010.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
4013.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
為了讓那些思想犯能夠回到台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
4013.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
4015.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
陪著林三田教授上街頭去抗爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
4015.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
4016.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
4016.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
4017.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
幾十年過去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
4017.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
4019.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
我們台灣越活越回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
4020.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
4021.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
所以這個事情我是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
4021.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
4023.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
不能讓人忍受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
4023.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
4025.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
自稱保障言論自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
4025.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
4027.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
自稱動不動都拿鄭南榮出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
4027.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
4028.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
說嘴的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
4028.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
4030.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
但是連最基本的言論自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
4032.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
4033.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
都保障不了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
4033.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
4034.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
還可以拿出來這樣子講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
4034.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
4036.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
我是不太能接受這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
4036.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
4038.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
那跟我們當初學生的時候理想也差 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
4039.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
4040.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
也差太遠了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
4040.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
4041.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
4041.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
4044.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
當把恐懼送到無辜人家的客廳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
4044.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
4046.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
然後網友按一個發送鍵之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
4046.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
4048.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
都要感到害怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
4048.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
4049.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
這個不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
4049.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
4050.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
這不叫做民主國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
4050.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
4052.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
已經走向集權國家了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
4052.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
4054.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
而這個也沒有依法辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
4054.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
4055.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
警察到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
4055.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
4056.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
他所作所為都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
4056.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
4057.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
都有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
4057.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
4058.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
沒有任何依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
4058.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
4060.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
那這個是國家的恐嚇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
4060.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
4063.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
那有時候我就看到這個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
4063.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
4064.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
我就覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
4064.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
4066.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
最近包括上次什麼陳菊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
4066.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
4067.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
走了嗎那句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
4067.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
4068.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
警察立刻火速上門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
4068.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
4070.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
包括這一次的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
4070.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
4071.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
對人民創作的影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
4071.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
4073.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
警察火速敲門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
4074.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
4076.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
但是人民真正害怕跟我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
4076.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
4077.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
我痛恨的半死 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
4078.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
4081.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
讓我的爸老爸老媽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
4081.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
4083.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
讓我的小孩知道這種自來遊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
4083.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
4084.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
4084.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
4085.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
政府拖了一根月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
4085.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
4086.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
卻給不出答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
4086.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
4087.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
但另外呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
4087.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
4088.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
弄了一個Cruzle的影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
4088.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
4090.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
我馬上到你家登門去查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
4090.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
4092.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
這是很好笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
4092.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
4094.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
而且是很諷刺的一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
4096.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
4098.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
我們都吃很多自來遊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
4098.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
4100.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
因為我們根本無從選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
4100.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
4101.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
這麼多流到市面上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
4101.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
4103.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
這才是讓我們氣憤的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
4103.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
4104.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
4104.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
4105.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
那北檢這次分案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
4105.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
4106.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
或是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
4107.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
4108.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
新法的準師文書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
4110.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
4111.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
4111.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
4112.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
我看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
4112.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
4113.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
但是最高法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
4113.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
4114.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
一路以來的見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
4114.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
4115.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
準師文書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
4115.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
4116.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
它必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
4116.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
4117.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
4117.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
4118.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
證明法律關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
4118.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
4119.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
或社會活動事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
4119.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
4120.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
4120.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
4121.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
要有明確的名義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
4120.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
4122.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
我就說我不想去討論個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
4122.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
4123.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
但是至少在這個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
4123.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
4125.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
並沒有講是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
4125.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
4128.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
所以欠缺最高法院的名義人的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
4128.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
4129.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
4129.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
4130.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
它陳述的是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
4130.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
4132.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
事實與科學上面的依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
4132.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
4133.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
這跟法律關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
4133.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
4135.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
或社會的犯罪活動事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
4135.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
4136.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
也沒有關聯性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
4136.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
4138.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
所以這是讓我很難過的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
4138.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
4139.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
為什麼今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
4139.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
4143.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
國家公器會用到今天這個樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
4145.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
4146.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
4146.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
4147.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
4147.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
4148.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
如果今天開場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
4148.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
4151.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
這個自稱虛構的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
4151.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
4153.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
一個政治諷刺的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
4153.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
4155.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
這個東西都可以扣上為照文書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
4155.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
4157.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
那我們國內非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
4157.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
4158.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
第二次創作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
4158.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
4160.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
COOSOR的這些年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
4160.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
4161.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
都完蛋了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
4161.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
4162.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
都可能要被抓去關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
4164.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
4166.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
然後那個警政組上次報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
4166.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
4167.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
還提到說誹謗罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
4167.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
4169.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
這是告訴哪一論之罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
4169.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
4170.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
告訴哪一論之罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
4170.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
4171.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
沒有人告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
4171.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
4172.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
那請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
4172.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
4174.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
市長 北檢會不會傳喚賴總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
4174.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
4175.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
來問他要不要提告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
4177.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
4178.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
這個是北檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
4178.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
4181.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
他依法偵查個案的一個職權行使 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
4181.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
4182.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
我們都予以充受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
4182.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
4183.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
4183.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
4184.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
那市長我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
4184.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
4185.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
我大概也猜到市長會這麼說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
4185.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
4186.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
所以今天我要講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
4186.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
4188.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
重點就在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
4188.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
4189.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
北檢會不會傳總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
4189.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
4190.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
我們不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
4190.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
4191.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
但是告訴全能就是總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
4191.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
4193.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
我也不知道他要不要提告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
4193.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
4194.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
那一個沒有人提告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
4194.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
4195.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
一個找不到犯罪事實的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
4195.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
4198.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
就警察卻上門去做這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
4198.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
4200.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
最近有很多那個自稱是法律人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
4200.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
4201.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
法律專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
4201.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
4203.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
或是有律師資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
4203.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
4205.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
但是說的一堆唯心之論嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
4206.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
4207.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
4207.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
4208.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
譬如說有人就 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
4208.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
4210.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
自稱是律師在網路上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
4210.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
4211.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
今天用總統的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
4211.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
4212.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
這樣可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
4212.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
4213.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
這個為什麼沒有構成犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
4213.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
4216.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
事實上在我國就沒有構成犯罪啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
4216.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
4217.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
今天必須要是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
4217.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
4219.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
你用誰的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
4219.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
4220.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
告訴大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
4220.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
4221.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
我是這個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
4221.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
4223.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
而且從事社會的犯罪活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
4223.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
4225.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
這兩個要件加起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
4225.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
4226.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
才會構成犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
4226.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
4228.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
並不是說我今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
4228.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
4230.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
用AI去生成了某一個聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
4230.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
4232.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
去講一個社會事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
4232.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
4233.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
或者是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
4234.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
4235.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
那個科學上的依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
4235.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
4236.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
那就構成犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
4236.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
4237.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
兩個東西完全不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
4237.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
4239.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
但是有非常多自稱法律人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
4239.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
4241.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
完全跳脫這個法律規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
4241.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
4242.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
就在位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
4242.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
4244.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
以P著法律專業人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
4244.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
4246.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
這個東西來亂帶風向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
4246.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
4247.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
這我不太能接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
4247.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
4248.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
如果今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
4248.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
4250.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
這個聲音跟某一個人相像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
4250.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
4251.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
就會構成犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
4251.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
4253.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
那我每一個AI生成的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
4253.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
4254.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
我必須去查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
4254.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
4255.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
跟這個地球上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
4255.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
4257.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
83億人口有沒有跟誰像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
4257.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
4259.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
如果跟誰像就會構成犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
4259.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
4260.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
那我必須查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
4260.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
4261.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
跟這83億人口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
4261.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
4262.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
有沒有跟任何一個人像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
4262.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
4263.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
萬一跟誰像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
4263.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
4264.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
那完蛋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
4264.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
4265.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
我就構成犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
4265.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
4267.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
所以這個是很瘋狂的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
4267.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
4269.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
所以我國的法律規定很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
4269.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
4270.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
民意人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
4270.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
4271.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
社會的犯罪活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
4271.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
4272.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
兩個加起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
4272.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
4274.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
才會構成一個犯罪事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
4274.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
4275.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
所以過往有人用那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
4275.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
4276.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
我覺得那個什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
4277.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
4278.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
那個譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
4278.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
4280.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
那個股市操盤的名師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
4280.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
4281.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
謝金河等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
4281.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
4282.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
用他們的名義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
4282.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
4283.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
用他們的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
4283.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
4285.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
來叫大家去投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
4285.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
4287.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
那這個就會構成犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
4287.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
4288.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
這個絕對沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
4288.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
4289.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
我也支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
4289.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
4290.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
但是今天在本案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
4290.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
4291.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
我真的是看不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
4291.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
4294.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
所以我必須要跟大家報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
4294.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
4295.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
我覺得這實際上充斥很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
4295.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
4297.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
自稱的法律人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
4297.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
4299.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
在那邊帶假的法律見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
4299.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
4300.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
在亂帶風向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
4300.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
4302.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
這其實很 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
4303.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
4304.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
我是真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
4304.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
4306.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
我是不太能接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
4306.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
4308.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
那更何況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
4308.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
4309.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
你看過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
4309.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
4310.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
其實12年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
4310.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
4312.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
那個蔡英文跟賴清德 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
4312.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
4313.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
他有一個假的影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
4313.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
4315.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
對談要大家投資加密貨幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
4315.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
4316.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
那個東西我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
4317.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
4319.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
這個才是造成民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
4319.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
4321.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
財產損害的這個聲威案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
4321.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
4322.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
這個才是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
4322.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
4324.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
現在這一次的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
4324.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
4325.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
有這我真的看不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
4325.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
4326.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
第二個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
4327.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
4330.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
高官假學歷偽造文書的告發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
4330.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
4332.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
之前114年6月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
4332.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
4333.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
有律師告發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
4333.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
4334.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
駐英國公使 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
4334.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
4336.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
那個江亞奇的這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
4336.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
4338.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
其實到現在查了一年多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
4338.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
4339.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
也都沒有進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
4339.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
4342.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
像那個東西才是真正構成犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
4342.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
4343.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
但我看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
4343.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
4345.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
國家機器都沒有真正再查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
4345.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
4347.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
反而是這一次的這個影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
4347.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
4348.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
我看到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
4348.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
4351.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
動員了刑事局的鑑識工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
4351.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
4352.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
內政部的專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
4352.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
4353.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
北檢的他之案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
4353.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
4355.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
一整週的政治攻防 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
4355.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
4356.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
這次卻這麼積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
4356.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
4357.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
4357.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
4358.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
我們面對自來有的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
4358.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
4359.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
到現在一個多月了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
4359.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
4360.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
還沒有人告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
4360.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
4362.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
鑑定的期程在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
4362.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
4364.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
所以這是我還是沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
4364.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
4366.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
接受的一個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
4366.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
4367.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
跟委員報相關的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
4367.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
4369.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
其實檢察官都有在偵犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
4369.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
4370.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
不管是毒油案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
4370.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
4372.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
或者是剛您提到的這個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
4372.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
4374.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
其實檢察官都有在做偵犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
4374.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
4375.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
那告訴哪一論罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
4375.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
4377.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
他的告訴只是一個程序的發動權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
4377.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
4379.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
但是如果有犯罪嫌疑的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
4379.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
4381.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
檢察官也是要來處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
4381.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
4382.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
就像偷拍案件的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
4382.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
4383.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
即使還沒有找到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
4383.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
4385.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
被害人提出告訴之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
4386.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
4388.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
檢察官也必須要先去偵犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
4388.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
4389.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
這個沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
4389.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
4390.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
它就訴說一條件的一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
4390.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
4391.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
能不能起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
4391.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
4393.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
但是我剛剛從頭到尾的論述是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
4393.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
4396.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
警察的發動完全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
4396.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
4397.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
4397.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
4399.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
警察沒有拘票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
4399.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
4400.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
搜索票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
4400.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
4401.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
沒有檢察官的指揮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
4401.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
4402.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
沒有通知書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
4402.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
4403.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
跑到你家去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
4403.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
4404.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
叫你做這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
4404.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
4406.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
我想正節點在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
4406.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
4407.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
而不是後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
4407.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
4408.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
訴罪條件有沒有完備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
4408.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
4410.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
我想這邊跟你說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
4412.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
4414.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
後面我會給 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
4414.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
4415.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
一時間到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
4415.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
4417.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
我想我還是跟你講一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
4418.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
4419.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
台唐的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
4419.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
4421.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
因為您是法律事務司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
4421.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
4423.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
也是行政院裡面的法律顧問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
4423.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
4424.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
不是法律事務司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
4424.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
4425.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
是法律事務司不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
4425.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
4426.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
請老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
4426.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
4429.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
那個法律的顧問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
4429.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
4430.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
4431.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
4432.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
行政院有什麼問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
4432.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
4433.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
一定也是請教你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
4433.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
4435.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
但是我要講的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
4435.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
4436.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
因為我們目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
4436.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
4438.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
我們的部長一直出來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
4438.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
4441.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
這個原料不是食品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
4442.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
4443.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
所以他沒有通報的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
4443.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
4445.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
就是講到那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
4445.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
4446.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
台唐的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
4446.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
4447.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
但是我一直覺得很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
4447.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
4448.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
我們食品安全衛生法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
4448.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
4449.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
第三條第一款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
4449.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
4451.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
它的食品的定義就是包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
4451.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
4453.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
提供人飲食 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
4453.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
4454.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
用作加工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
4454.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
4455.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
調理食品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
4455.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
4456.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
之物品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
4456.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
4458.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
或其原料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
4458.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
4459.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
我不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
4460.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
4461.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
部長難道沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
4461.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
4462.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
食品安全衛生法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
4462.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
4464.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
第三條第一款的規定嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
4464.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
4465.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
我搞不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
4465.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
4466.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
所以這部分可能要麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
4466.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
4468.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
因為您是法律專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
4468.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
4469.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
可不可以翻一下法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
4469.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
4471.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
給行政院的長官看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
4471.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
4472.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
那那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
4472.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
4475.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
所以原料它本身就實行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
4475.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
4477.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
食管法的定義的食品的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
4477.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
4479.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
我不知道為什麼可以把 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
4479.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
4481.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
食品跟原料做這樣子的區分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
4481.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
4482.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
是不是只是為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
4482.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
4484.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
幫特定人講講話嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
4484.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
4487.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
那食安是全民的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
4487.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
4489.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
那同條第七款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
4489.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
4490.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
它對食品業者的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
4490.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
4492.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
還有第七條第五項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
4492.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
4493.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
也都講得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
4493.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
4495.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
都有說有這些問題的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
4495.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
4496.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
就要通報直轄市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
4496.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
4498.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
還有縣市的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
4498.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
4500.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
所以這個本來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
4500.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
4502.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
你就沒有去分什麼食品跟原料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
4502.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
4504.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
然後一個需要通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
4504.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
4505.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
另外一個就沒有通報義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
4505.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
4507.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
這個我沒有辦法理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
4507.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
4508.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
然後我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
4508.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
4511.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
像我們的老同事沖達主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
4511.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
4512.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
其實他講那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
4512.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
4513.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
他是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
4514.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
4515.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
他就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
4515.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
4518.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
這個通報是法律明定義的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
4518.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
4520.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
不是行政機關的恩惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
4520.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
4521.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
所以他也認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
4522.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
4523.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
這個衛福部的這個說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
4523.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
4525.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
其實他也沒有辦法接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
4525.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
4527.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
更何況食安法寫的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
4527.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
4529.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
有危害衛生安全之虞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
4529.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
4531.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
他不是說危害已完全證實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
4531.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
4533.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
他不是一個食害犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
4533.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
4534.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
那我的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
4534.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
4537.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
那個台大公會的江常林教授也說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
4537.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
4538.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
他說如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
4538.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
4540.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
台大沒有法定通報義務的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
4540.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
4542.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
原料鈔標不用通報的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
4542.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
4544.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
他等於是把我國的食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
4544.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
4547.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
開了一個致命的大後門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
4548.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
4551.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
我們以後的食安都完蛋了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
4551.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
4553.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
所以這個是您必須要跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
4554.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
4556.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
行政院那邊或跟衛福部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
4556.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
4558.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
跟他說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
4558.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
4560.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
食安法不是這樣規定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
4560.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
4561.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
那跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
4561.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
4563.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
您剛提到那兩個法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
4563.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
4564.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
在第三條裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
4564.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
4565.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
它規範的是食品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
4565.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
4566.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
在第七條裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
4566.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
4567.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
它規範的是產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
4567.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
4569.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
那兩者它的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
4569.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
4570.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
這個標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
4570.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
4571.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
是不是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
4571.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
4572.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
這個是要由那個衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
4572.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
4574.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
他們來做一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
4574.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
4575.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
好這個不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
4575.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
4576.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
但是你幫我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
4576.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
4577.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
麻煩你們跟他談法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
4577.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
4578.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
更何況我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
4578.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
4580.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
您剛講的是法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
4580.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
4581.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
衛福部一三年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
4581.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
4583.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
食品業者自主管理說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
4583.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
4584.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
就有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
4584.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
4586.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
針對原料異常因主動通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
4586.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
4587.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
一百一十三年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
4587.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
4588.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
蘇丹紅事件的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
4588.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
4589.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
行政院會議紀律也講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
4589.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
4592.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
原料異常因主動通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
4592.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
4593.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
這也都行政院的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
4593.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
4595.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
我剛第一個講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
4595.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
4596.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
第一個範疇是法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
4596.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
4597.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
第二個範疇是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
4597.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
4598.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
行政院自己講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
4598.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
4600.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
所以不管是食安法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
4600.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
4602.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
不管食安法第七條第五項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
4602.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
4603.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
或是一一三年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
4603.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
4606.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
一一四年的官方解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
4606.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
4607.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
都包含到原料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
4607.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
4608.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
那我不知道為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
4608.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
4610.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
一百一十五年八月以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
4610.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
4611.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
碰到國營事業的台糖 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
4611.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
4612.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
就變不包含原料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
4612.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
4614.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
所以變的不是法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
4614.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
4615.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
是人變了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
4615.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
4616.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
4616.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
4617.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
我說真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
4617.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
4619.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
這個真的是沒辦法接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
4619.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
4622.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
我說好最後30秒不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
4622.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
4624.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
我今天質詢的兩件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
4624.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
4626.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
其實講的都是同一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
4626.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
4628.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
由不得你這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
4628.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
4629.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
是小題大作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
4629.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
4631.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
先射箭再劃把 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
4631.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
4633.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
台糖自由案是大事化小 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
4633.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
4636.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
自創法條幫高官護航 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
4636.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
4637.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
4638.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
4639.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
同一個政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
4639.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
4640.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
同一個法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
4640.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
4642.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
一邊查的比誰都快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
4642.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
4643.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
一邊拖的比誰都慢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
4643.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
4644.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
我看到的是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
4646.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
4647.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
4647.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
4648.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
4648.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
4650.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
一個本皮的動畫影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
4650.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
4652.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
用了刑事局建設工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
4652.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
4653.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
內政部專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
4653.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
4654.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
北檢他之案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
4654.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
4657.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
然後真正查自由案的期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
4657.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
4659.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
我說真的到現在都看不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
4659.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
4660.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
所以連這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
4660.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
4663.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
到最後連跟台糖有關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
4663.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
4665.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
這個所謂的食品的原料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
4665.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
4666.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
的解釋都變成是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
4666.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
4667.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
發現有知愛物 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
4667.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
4669.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
也沒有通報義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
4669.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
4670.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
我說這不可思議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
4671.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
4672.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
4672.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
4673.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
4673.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
4674.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
就跟市長報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
4674.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
4675.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
因為我們以前是同事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
4675.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
4677.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
我還是一個那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
4677.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
4678.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
4680.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
4681.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
標準不應該變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
4681.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
4682.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
SOP也不應該變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
4682.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
4684.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
還有一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
4684.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
4686.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
讀書人要有讀書人的風骨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
4686.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
4688.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
我希望全國的政務官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
4688.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
4689.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
都能夠秉持這個觀念 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
4689.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
4691.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
讀書人要有讀書人的風骨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
4691.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
4692.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
4694.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
4696.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
好 謝謝吳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
4698.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
4699.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
好 接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
4699.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
4700.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
我們有請張雅玲委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
4708.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
4709.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
4709.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
4710.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
我們有請檢察司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
4711.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
4712.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
好 有請檢察司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
4715.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
4716.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
其實我本來是沒有要問你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
4716.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
4717.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
只是我剛剛下面聽的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
4717.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
4719.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
我真的聽得有點無煞煞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
4719.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
4721.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
我希望你可以來做多點說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
4721.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
4722.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
因為剛剛從吳宗憲委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
4722.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
4723.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
資訊裡面聽起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
4723.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
4724.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
好像是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
4724.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
4728.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
特別喜好針對性辦案的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
4728.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
4730.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
那我想要針對程序上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
4730.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
4733.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
來請司長再多做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
4733.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
4734.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
4734.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
4735.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
由不得你這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
4735.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
4737.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
它是涉及了申委的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
4737.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
4738.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
4738.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
4739.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
那其實我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
4739.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
4740.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
因為包含在今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
4740.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
4741.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
其實我收到了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
4741.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
4742.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
展翅基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
4742.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
4743.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
這邊告訴我的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
4743.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
4745.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
像是我的一些兒少性影像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
4745.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
4748.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
被用AI申委的這個技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
4748.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
4749.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
來去操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
4749.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
4751.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
那使得一些部分的兒少受害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
4751.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
4752.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
那我想問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
4752.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
4753.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
當我們遇到這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
4753.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
4754.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
一個案件的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
4754.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
4756.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
我們的偵查程序跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
4756.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
4758.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
兒少我說兒少的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
4758.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
4759.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
跟這個由不得你的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
4759.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
4761.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
有不一樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
4761.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
4762.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
其實都是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
4762.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
4764.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
只要有發現這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
4764.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
4766.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
可能性申委的影片的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
4766.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
4767.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
那警方其實他們就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
4767.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
4768.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
依照他們的職權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
4768.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
4770.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
開始來進行相關的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
4770.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
4771.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
那如果有必要的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
4771.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
4772.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
警察就是會報情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
4772.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
4774.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
警察官來指揮政辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
4774.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
4775.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
對 所以就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
4775.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
4776.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
當今天有人可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
4776.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
4778.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
像我們可以檢舉嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
4778.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
4779.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
可能兒少的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
4779.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
4780.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
他也可以自己檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
4780.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
4781.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
別人幫他檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
4781.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
4782.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
只要你們收到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
4782.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
4783.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
這樣子的舉報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
4783.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
4784.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
通報啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
4784.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
4785.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
通報的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
4785.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
4786.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
就會開始啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
4786.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
4788.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
一系列的SOP嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
4788.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
4789.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
4789.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
4790.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
因為剛剛吳宗憲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
4790.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
4791.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
一直在強調就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
4791.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
4793.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
希望司長您不要改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
4793.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
4794.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
你的SOP |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
4794.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
4795.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
要有封骨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
4795.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
4796.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
那我想確認一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
4796.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
4797.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
所以針對SOP的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
4797.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
4799.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
是完全跟一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
4799.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
4800.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
沒有改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
4800.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
4801.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
4801.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
4802.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
其實所有的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
4802.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
4803.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
的偵辦程序都是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
4803.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
4805.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
我相信警察官跟警方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
4805.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
4807.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
都是秉持著證據來做辦案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
4807.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
4809.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
好 那我想再請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
4809.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
4810.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
4810.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
4813.61 |
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我們針對於這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
4813.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
4814.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
剛剛講的那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
4814.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
4816.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
那個食安法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
4816.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
4818.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
這些認定上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
4818.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
4819.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
因為現在看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
4819.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
4820.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
4820.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
4821.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
就是說吳宗憲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
4821.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
4824.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
以及這個陳鴻達這個檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
4824.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
4825.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
他們對於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
4825.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
4826.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
法律的解釋上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
4826.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
4827.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
有不同的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
4827.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
4828.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
那我想問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
4828.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
4829.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
在你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
4829.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
4830.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
你認識這麼多檢察官嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
4830.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
4832.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
大家對每一個法律的解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
4832.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
4834.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
都是完全一致的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
4834.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
4835.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
我想法律的解釋空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
4835.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
4837.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
有時候因而他的法律條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
4837.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
4838.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
可能會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
4838.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
4840.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
讓大家在解讀上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
4840.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
4841.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
可能會有不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
4841.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
4842.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
那我們都尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
4842.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
4844.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
每一個人對法律的解釋的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
4844.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
4845.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
一個空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
4845.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
4846.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
那但是這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
4846.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
4847.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
其實主要還是要看 |
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4847.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
4848.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
4848.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
4849.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
他對於這個法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
4849.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
4850.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
是怎麼解釋的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
4850.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
4851.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
對 就是這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
4851.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
4852.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
到底是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
4852.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
4853.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
因為產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
4853.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
4854.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
跟原料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
4854.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
4855.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
跟食品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
4855.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
4856.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
是完全不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
4856.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
4857.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
所以我想這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
4857.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
4858.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
當然是有討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
4858.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
4859.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
跟釐清的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
4859.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
4860.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
但是我這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
4860.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
4861.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
還是希望來 |
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4861.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
4862.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
幫檢察官說話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
4862.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
4864.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
就是說即便我們委員們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
4864.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
4865.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
人民們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
4865.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
4866.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
各自有各自的喜好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
4866.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
4867.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
各自的觀點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
4867.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
4868.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
但是因為最終 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
4868.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
4869.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
我們應該還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
4869.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
4870.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
不介入司法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
4870.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
4871.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
檢調的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
4871.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
4872.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
4872.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
4873.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
我們應該還是要尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
4873.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
4874.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
我們檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
4874.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
4875.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
自己的判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
4875.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
4877.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
自己的程序上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
4877.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
4878.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
只要程序正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
4878.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
4879.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
程序符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
4879.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
4880.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
4880.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
4881.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
那我們就應該要尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
4881.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
4882.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
才對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
4882.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
4883.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
而不是在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
4883.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
4884.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
發表個人的言論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
4884.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
4885.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
是 謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
4885.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
4886.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
4886.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
4887.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
那我接下來還是要回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
4887.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
4888.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
請我們的這個司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
4888.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
4889.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
4889.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
4890.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
4891.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
4892.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
請告密書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
4896.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
4897.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
好 秘書長你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
4897.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
4898.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
4898.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
4899.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
其實我之前也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
4899.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
4900.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
有去看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
4900.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
4901.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
我們書記官目前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
4901.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
4902.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
這個工作環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
4902.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
4904.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
也安排了一個考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
4904.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
4905.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
那我想這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
4905.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
4906.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
這個是我們從 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
4906.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
4907.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
很多的新聞上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
4907.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
4908.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
看到我們書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
4908.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
4909.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
的一個工作困境上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
4909.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
4911.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
工作量非常非常的大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
4911.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
4912.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
電話接不完 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
4912.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
4914.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
然後薪資缺乏 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
4914.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
4915.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
競爭力質押 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
4915.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
4916.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
誘因不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
4916.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
4917.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
證王率也非常非常高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
4917.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
4919.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
那這當然也反映在了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
4919.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
4920.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
我們的離職率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
4920.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
4922.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
好 這是我看了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
4922.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
4924.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
新北跟台北地院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
4924.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
4927.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
我們112年跟113年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
4927.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
4928.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
都算是勉強 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
4928.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
4930.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
維持差不多的水準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
4930.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
4932.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
但是在114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
4932.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
4933.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
整個飆高了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
4933.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
4935.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
都是兩倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
4935.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
4936.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
所以是非常的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
4936.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
4937.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
那原因呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
4937.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
4938.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
我在揣測 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
4938.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
4939.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
因為我看到一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
4939.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
4940.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
相關的新聞報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
4940.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
4941.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
4941.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
4943.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
大家的這個工作量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
4943.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
4946.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
因為詐騙案件的頻傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
4946.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
4947.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
所以造成大家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
4947.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
4948.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
工作量大增 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
4948.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
4950.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
那不僅是離職率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
4950.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
4952.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
包含我們的報道率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
4952.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
4954.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
都非常的低 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
4954.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
4955.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
那我想要問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
4955.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
4956.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
就是說我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
4956.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
4957.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
看到了司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
4957.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
4959.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
是要來去調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
4959.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
4961.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
我們的這個說法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
4961.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
4962.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
讓三等書記官的職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
4962.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
4964.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
本身可以列到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
4964.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
4966.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
鑑任第六職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
4966.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
4967.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
那具備鑑任任用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
4967.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
4968.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
資格的限職人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
4968.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
4969.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
未來也不一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
4969.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
4971.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
先升到這個二等書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
4971.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
4972.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
也可以繼續擔任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
4972.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
4973.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
三等書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
4973.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
4974.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
或是改任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
4974.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
4976.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
改派鑑任第六職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
4976.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
4977.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
4977.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
4978.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
但我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
4978.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
4979.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
還是有一個根本的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
4979.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
4981.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
想要來跟秘書長討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
4981.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
4983.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
因為我想今天這個修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
4983.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
4984.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
我當然是給予肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
4984.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
4985.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
也支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
4985.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
4986.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
但我們還是要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
4986.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
4987.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
嚴肅地面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
4987.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
4988.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
真正的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
4988.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
4989.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
4989.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
4991.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
到底能不能讓新人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
4991.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
4992.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
進得來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
4992.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
4994.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
原來的人可以留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
4994.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
4995.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
所以我想先確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
4995.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
4996.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
我們現在提出的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
4996.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
4997.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
解決辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
4997.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
4999.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
這個當時都有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
4999.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
5002.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
去做一些研究嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
5002.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
5003.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
就是如何增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
5003.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
5005.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
他們留下來的意願 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
5005.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
5009.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
為了其實人員的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
5009.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
5011.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
是一個方法之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
5011.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
5013.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
工作環境的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
5013.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
5015.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
也是一個很重要的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
5015.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
5016.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
所以為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
5017.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
5018.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
我們都很了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
5018.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
5019.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
書記官的工作內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
5019.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
5021.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
可是我們不了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
5021.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
5022.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
每一個細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
5022.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
5023.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
關於這個細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
5023.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
5026.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
我自己親自到高院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
5026.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
5028.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
我們最繁忙的法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
5028.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
5030.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
書記官請來逐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
5030.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
5033.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
我們從收案開始到送卷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
5033.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
5036.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
逐一步一步的去討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
5036.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
5039.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
哪邊是可以檢審 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
5039.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
5042.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
哪邊可以用數位化來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
5042.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
5044.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
哪邊可以用人員來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
5044.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
5046.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
我們是全部走完一套的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
5047.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
5048.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
所以這個是你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
5048.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
5049.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
走完一套的流程之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
5049.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
5051.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
你們就建議會認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
5051.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
5052.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
因為第一線的書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
5052.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
5054.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
認為這個電話很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
5054.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
5055.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
所以你們才要見這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
5055.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
5058.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
沒有 其實要跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
5059.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
5061.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
這個所謂這個電話中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
5061.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
5063.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
是我們從很久很久以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
5063.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
5065.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
一直在討論這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
5065.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
5066.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
我相信所有書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
5066.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
5068.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
都會告訴委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
5068.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
5069.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
任何的電話對他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
5069.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
5072.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
都是一個很重的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
5072.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
5074.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
而且是工作上的騷擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
5074.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
5076.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
5076.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
5077.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
如果能夠剔除的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
5077.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
5079.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
相信書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
5079.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
5081.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
有辦法專心工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
5081.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
5082.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
這個是最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
5082.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
5083.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
好的 我想這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
5083.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
5084.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
既然這樣聽起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
5084.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
5085.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
對書記官非常有幫助的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
5085.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
5086.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
那我們具體來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
5086.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
5088.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
什麼時候要成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
5088.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
5089.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
那有多少的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
5089.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
5090.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
你們現在判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
5090.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
5091.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
應該有測試嘛 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
5091.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
5092.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
有多少的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
5092.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
5093.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
真的是電話中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
5093.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
5094.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
可以直接處理掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
5094.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
5096.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
不然如果我們沒有做這個測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
5096.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
5098.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
我們設了這個電話中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
5098.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
5099.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
還是有很多涉及個資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
5099.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
5100.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
或是很多問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
5100.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
5101.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
還是要回到書記官本身的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
5101.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
5103.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
那根本的問題就沒有解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
5103.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
5104.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
所以我想請牧師長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
5104.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
5105.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
具體的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
5105.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
5107.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
我們預計什麼時候會成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
5107.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
5108.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
有多少比例可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
5108.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
5110.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
先講 我們希望明年1月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
5110.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
5111.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
就能夠成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
5111.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
5112.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
我們希望今年12月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
5112.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
5113.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
就開始測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
5113.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
5115.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
其實跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
5115.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
5116.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
我們從今年1月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
5116.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
5117.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
我們司法行政廳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
5117.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
5119.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
就收集 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
5120.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
5123.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
所有書記官所被詢問的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
5123.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
5126.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
我們收集了上千個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
5126.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
5127.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
我們現在這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
5127.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
5129.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
怎麼去給他處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
5129.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
5132.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
然後由我們將來的電話中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
5132.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
5133.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
來統一回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
5133.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
5134.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
我要跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
5134.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
5135.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
一個最重要的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
5136.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
5137.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
書記官所回答的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
5137.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
5139.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
絕對只是程序問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
5139.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
5142.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
不可能回答任何事實問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
5142.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
5143.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
所以程序問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
5143.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
5146.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
其實在我們的辦案進行部上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
5146.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
5147.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
是可以看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
5147.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
5149.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
所以辦案進行部的公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
5149.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
5152.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
老實說法治先進的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
5152.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
5153.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
是全部公開的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
5153.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
5155.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
可是我們比較保守 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
5155.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
5156.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
我們大概公開三筆而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
5156.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
5157.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
5157.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
5159.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
其實三筆就夠用了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
5159.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
5163.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
我們將來的這個電話中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
5163.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
5165.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
其實他看到我們給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
5165.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
5167.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
老師那個問題化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
5167.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
5170.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
幾乎書記官的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
5170.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
5172.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
全部可以保守 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
5172.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
5175.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
好 所以你們現在的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
5175.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
5176.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
估計是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
5176.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
5177.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
有非常高的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
5177.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
5180.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
是可以透過電話中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
5180.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
5181.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
那我希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
5181.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
5183.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
我們在12月測試的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
5183.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
5184.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
要給我一份報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
5184.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
5185.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
讓我知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
5185.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
5189.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
到底有多少的這一個電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
5189.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
5192.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
是真的轉到了電話中心去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
5192.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
5193.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
而不是由書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
5193.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
5194.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
5194.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
5195.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
我想這也是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
5195.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
5196.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
非常重要的KP |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
5196.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
5197.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
也是你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
5197.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
5198.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
5198.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
5199.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
我們一開始辦的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
5199.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
5200.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
我們就不讓電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
5200.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
5202.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
電話進書記官了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
5203.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
5204.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
5204.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
5205.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
但是問題是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
5205.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
5207.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
有多少最後還是要轉到書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
5207.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
5208.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
所以我現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
5208.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
5209.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
我想這是一個很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
5209.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
5210.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
5210.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
5211.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
評估的KPI |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
5211.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
5212.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
所以是不是第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
5212.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
5213.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
現在可以先提供給我們一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
5213.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
5215.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
你們如何評估電話中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
5215.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
5216.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
成效的KPI |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
5216.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
5217.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
第二個是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
5217.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
5218.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
當你們測試完的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
5218.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
5220.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
12月底測試完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
5220.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
5221.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
給我一份報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
5221.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
5222.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
是告訴我們有多少東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
5222.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
5224.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
真的是電話中心可以解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
5224.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
5225.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
好 那我想就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
5225.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
5226.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
那報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
5226.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
5227.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
那明年的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
5227.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
5228.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
一定要幫我們支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
5228.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
5229.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
我們一定是支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
5229.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
5230.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
百分之百支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
5230.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
5231.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
如果可以如期審查的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
5231.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
5232.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
5232.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
5233.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
而且如果有成效的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
5233.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
5234.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
非常具體的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
5234.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
5235.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
我們一定是百分之百支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
5235.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
5236.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
非常謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
5236.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
5237.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
好 那我想就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
5237.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
5238.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
那我們現在呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
5238.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
5240.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
我們現在有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
5240.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
5241.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
司法院希望增加書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
5241.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
5242.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
員額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
5242.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
5244.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
要達到291人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
5244.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
5245.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
但是我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
5245.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
5246.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
還是要解決報道率的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
5246.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
5247.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
5247.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
5248.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
好 如果沒有解決報道率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
5248.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
5249.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
真額也是沒有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
5249.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
5250.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
5250.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
5251.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
好 所以我想問的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
5251.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
5252.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
我們要如何解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
5252.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
5253.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
這個報道率的問題呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
5253.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
5255.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
好 那第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
5255.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
5256.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
工作環境一定要改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
5256.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
5258.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
我們現在因為人員的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
5258.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
5259.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
5259.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
5260.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
但是現在輿論上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
5260.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
5261.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
都是說快逃啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
5261.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
5262.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
你要怎麼讓大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
5262.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
5263.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
有感到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
5263.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
5264.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
欸 環境真的有改善了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
5264.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
5265.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
一定要把 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
5265.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
5266.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
5268.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
5270.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
書記官現在的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
5270.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
5272.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
幾乎是十年前的兩倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
5272.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
5273.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
對啊 同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
5273.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
5274.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
在這兩倍工作裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
5274.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
5276.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
我們要去發掘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
5276.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
5277.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
哪些工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
5277.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
5279.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
根本不是他在訴訟法上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
5279.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
5280.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
必須要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
5280.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
5282.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
我們要把這些工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
5282.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
5283.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
尾外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
5283.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
5285.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
因為我們沒有員額了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
5285.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
5287.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
我們只能尾外來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
5287.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
5288.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
但是你現在要增加員額啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
5288.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
5289.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
欸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
5289.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
5290.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
那我們當然希望增加員額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
5290.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
5291.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
剛剛跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
5291.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
5292.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
對 我的問題就在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
5292.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
5293.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
沒有 秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
5293.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
5294.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
我的問題在於就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
5294.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
5295.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
因為你現在增加員額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
5295.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
5296.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
5296.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
5297.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
那如果我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
5297.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
5298.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
是有很多人願意來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
5298.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
5299.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
那你增加員額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
5299.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
5300.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
當然沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
5300.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
5301.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
但是問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
5301.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
5302.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
現在就是報到率很低嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
5302.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
5303.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
所以問題就在於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
5303.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
5304.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
我們要如何讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
5304.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
5306.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
這些有志之士 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
5306.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
5307.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
已經都來考試的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
5307.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
5309.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
願意來報到嘛 |
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5309.02 |
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5311.02 |
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要讓他真實的感覺到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
5311.02 |
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5312.02 |
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環境有變好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
5312.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
5313.02 |
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他才願意來嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
5313.02 |
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5314.02 |
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所以我現在就問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
5314.02 |
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5315.02 |
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你的問題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
5315.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
5317.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
如何讓他們真實的感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
5317.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
5319.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
你做了哪些事情這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
5319.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
5320.02 |
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其實我們從今年1月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
5320.02 |
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5322.02 |
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尤其幾個監會法院 |
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5322.02 |
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5323.02 |
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就開始 |
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5323.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
5324.02 |
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把書記官的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
5324.02 |
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5325.02 |
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事務工作切出去 |
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5325.02 |
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5326.02 |
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他們已經有感了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
5326.02 |
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5329.02 |
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在職的書記官是有感的 |
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5329.02 |
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5331.02 |
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我們希望透過這種有感 |
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5331.02 |
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5333.02 |
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讓外面要進來的書記官 |
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5333.02 |
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5335.02 |
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知道我的工作環境 |
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5335.02 |
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5336.02 |
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是改變了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
5336.02 |
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5338.02 |
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這個是最重要的 |
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5338.02 |
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5339.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
他們才願意來報到 |
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5339.02 |
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5341.02 |
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好 那我也希望就是說 |
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5341.02 |
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5343.02 |
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因為接下來的這個報到率 |
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5343.02 |
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5344.02 |
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也可以提供給我們 |
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5344.02 |
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5345.02 |
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一份報告啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
5345.02 |
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5346.02 |
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看看你所說的這些東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
5346.02 |
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5347.02 |
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是不是真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
5347.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
5348.02 |
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我們期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
5348.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
5349.02 |
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有感好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
5349.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
5350.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
好 那接下來我們請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
5350.02 |
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5351.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
我們還是要繼續請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
5351.02 |
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5352.02 |
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那個秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
5352.02 |
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5353.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
我要問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
5353.02 |
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5354.02 |
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有關於法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
5354.02 |
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5355.02 |
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是 是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
5355.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
5356.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
這次的修法的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
5356.02 |
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5357.02 |
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就是說 |
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5357.02 |
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5358.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
我們現在這次的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
5358.02 |
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5360.02 |
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提高的是法警長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
5360.02 |
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5362.02 |
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跟副法警長 |
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5362.02 |
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5364.02 |
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可是我們一般法警的職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
5364.02 |
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5366.02 |
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還是維持在委任的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
5366.02 |
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5368.02 |
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第三職等跟到第五職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
5368.02 |
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5371.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
所以基層法警的職涯天花板 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
5371.02 |
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5372.02 |
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是沒有改變的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
5372.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
5374.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
可是其實法警是透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
5374.02 |
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5376.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
司法特稿四等禁用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
5376.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
5378.02 |
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那這個四等考試 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
5378.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
5379.02 |
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決定的應該只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
5379.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
5380.02 |
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出任資格 |
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5380.02 |
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5381.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
而不是直接變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
5381.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
5382.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
職涯的天花板 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
5382.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
5384.02 |
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再加上過去的質詢嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
5384.02 |
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5385.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
我們在講法院的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
5385.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
5387.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
之前的一些法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
5387.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
5388.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
打人 攻擊事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
5388.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
5390.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
我們都希望可以去強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
5390.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
5391.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
而且明確化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
5391.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
5393.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
法警的一些工作內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
5393.02 |
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5394.02 |
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那也就代表是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
5394.02 |
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5395.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
法警的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
5395.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
5397.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
已經不是只是程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
5397.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
5399.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
還有包含安全 秩序等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
5399.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
5401.02 |
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所以既然他的工作量增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
5401.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
5402.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
那我就想要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
5402.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
5403.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
為什麼我們自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
5403.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
5405.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
司法院提出的修法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
5405.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
5407.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
沒有去調整呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
5407.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
5409.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
可是卻對其他委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
5409.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
5411.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
這個版本呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
5411.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
5413.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
說禁表尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
5413.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
5414.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
那到底司法院的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
5414.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
5415.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
5415.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
5418.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
跟委員 剛我已經跟陳委員報告過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
5418.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
5420.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
我們當初在跟全序部協商的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
5420.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
5422.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
因為牽涉到考試之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
5422.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
5424.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
老實說我們是尊重全序部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
5424.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
5426.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
所以我們暫時是想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
5426.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
5428.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
我們先讓這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
5428.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
5430.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
法監長 副法監長這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
5430.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
5432.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
真的是一個指揮監督的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
5432.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
5433.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
先申制的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
5433.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
5435.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
這個也是我們要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
5435.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
5437.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
很感謝各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
5437.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
5438.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
如果願意支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
5438.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
5440.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
真的我們當初的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
5440.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
5442.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
跟委員 我承認 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
5442.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
5443.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
當初我們設想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
5443.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
5444.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
就是因為什麼考試之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
5444.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
5446.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
就被限制住了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
5446.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
5448.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
所以沒有說我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
5448.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
5449.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
像陳委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
5449.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
5451.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
就是當然要改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
5451.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
5453.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
我當時真的沒有這樣想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
5453.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
5455.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
可是如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
5455.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
5456.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
委員給我們這個力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
5456.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
5458.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
我們當然希望改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
5458.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
5459.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
我希望因為司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
5459.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
5460.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
我們自己看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
5460.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
5462.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
很多實務上面的一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
5462.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
5464.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
那其實委員在過去這半年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
5464.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
5466.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
也有給很多的提醒跟建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
5466.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
5467.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
以及我想不分黨派 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
5467.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
5468.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
大家對於法警的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
5468.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
5470.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
薪資福利待遇等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
5470.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
5472.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
各種我們都是積極的來爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
5472.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
5474.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
那我希望司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
5474.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
5475.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
也應該要考量到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
5475.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
5476.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
我們自己員工在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
5476.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
5478.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
工作環境的處境 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
5478.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
5480.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
而不是等到大家都不來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
5480.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
5482.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
我們才來改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
5482.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
5483.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
真的就有點太晚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
5483.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
5484.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
所以我希望就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
5484.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
5486.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
司法院在這一點上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
5486.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
5487.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
也一定要來配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
5487.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
5489.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
一定要來去同步的調整好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
5489.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
5491.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
5494.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
5495.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
謝謝張委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
5503.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
5505.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
好 接下來我們請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
5505.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
5507.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
歐小黎委員進行質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
5512.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
5513.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
5513.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
5515.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
我在這邊有請高秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
5515.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
5517.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
還有淮旭次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
5517.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
5520.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
好 麻煩高秘書長還有淮次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
5520.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
5522.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
5523.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
5526.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
好 這個秘書長還有次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
5526.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
5529.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
我想我這裡首先先就針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
5529.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
5532.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
這次我們修正法院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
5532.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
5533.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
等等相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
5533.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
5535.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
專業法院的組織法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
5535.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
5537.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
調整書記官的職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
5537.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
5538.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
還有法警長的職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
5538.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
5539.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
以及法警的職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
5539.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
5542.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
來跟兩位來進行討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
5542.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
5544.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
因為事實上就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
5544.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
5546.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
我在7月20號的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
5546.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
5548.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
其實也去桃園地方法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
5548.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
5550.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
當時去參訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
5550.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
5552.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
那麼就精神衛生法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
5552.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
5553.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
法官參審制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
5553.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
5554.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
以及司法人力的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
5554.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
5557.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
來進行一個考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
5557.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
5558.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
那根據司法院的簡報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
5558.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
5559.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
其實現在因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
5559.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
5561.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
詐欺案件量大量的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
5561.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
5563.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
那麼法警體檢人犯的次數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
5563.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
5565.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
也呈現了爆炸性的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
5565.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
5568.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
114年的他們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
5568.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
5571.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
體檢人犯的次數比 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
5571.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
5572.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
112年同期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
5572.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
5574.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
基本上就增加了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
5574.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
5577.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
45%的這樣很高的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
5577.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
5580.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
等於說工作量將近增加了五成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
5580.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
5583.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
所以我們也因為看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
5583.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
5585.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
其實法警也很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
5585.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
5588.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
所以在本行這一次的修法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
5588.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
5590.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
我就是將法警的職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
5590.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
5592.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
從現在的委任三職等到五職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
5592.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
5594.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
然後又往上面提高到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
5594.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
5595.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
建任六職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
5595.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
5597.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
那麼可是事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
5597.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
5599.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
剛剛聽了就是秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
5599.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
5600.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
基本上可能也支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
5600.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
5603.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
我們可以就是將法警的職等調高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
5603.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
5606.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
但是全序部這裡是反對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
5606.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
5609.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
那全序部的理由是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
5609.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
5611.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
因為在公務人員任用法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
5611.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
5613.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
現在最多職等的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
5613.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
5615.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
只能夠調兩個職等是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
5616.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
5618.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
兩到三個職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
5618.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
5620.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
所以如果說從委任三職等到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
5620.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
5622.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
建任六職等的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
5622.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
5624.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
就等於調了四個職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
5624.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
5627.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
因此你們是反對這樣的一個做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
5627.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
5629.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
而且也認為說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
5629.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
5632.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
這個法警應該要跟警察的職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
5634.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
5636.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
是不是剛次的意思是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
5636.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
5638.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
我跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
5638.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
5640.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
就是說這次的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
5640.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
5642.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
包括書記官、副法警長、法警長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
5642.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
5643.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
還有隊長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
5643.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
5646.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
這我們考試院跟全序部都是支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
5646.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
5647.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
之前討論都這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
5647.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
5649.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
那麼在之前那個法警的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
5649.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
5651.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
曾經有來談的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
5651.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
5654.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
希望從三到五調整為四到五 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
5654.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
5656.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
但這個部分考試院跟全序部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
5656.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
5658.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
我們這邊的意見是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
5658.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
5660.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
考試初任職務就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
5660.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
5662.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
因為四等考試就是三職等任用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
5662.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
5664.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
一出任就全理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
5664.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
5666.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
這個可能就已經違背了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
5666.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
5668.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
我們目前考試的這個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
5668.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
5670.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
那所以後來這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
5670.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
5672.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
就沒有看到有進一步的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
5672.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
5674.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
那這次您所提的這個草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
5674.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
5676.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
應該是三到五或六 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
5676.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
5678.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
但是我們這次的書記官調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
5678.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
5682.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
其中三等書記官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
5682.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
5684.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
也有受到其中是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
5684.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
5686.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
二分之一得列建任第六職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
5686.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
5688.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
但是我們法警這樣的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
5688.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
5690.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
卻是直接一個職務就變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
5690.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
5692.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
三到五或六 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
5692.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
5694.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
這兩個之間就會產生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
5694.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
5696.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
完全不平衡的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
5696.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
5698.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
我想這個全序部的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
5698.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
5700.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
本身是很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
5700.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
5702.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
但是我現在要談就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
5702.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
5704.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
我們現在的這種直等官等表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
5704.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
5706.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
有多少年沒有修了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
5706.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
5708.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
我們事實上最近都一直在修 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
5708.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
5710.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
就是以目前現在來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
5710.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
5712.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
我們這一套制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
5712.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
5714.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
有沒有七十年都沒修了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
5713.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
5715.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
從民國幾年就開始實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
5715.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
5717.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
民國七十六年實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
5717.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
5719.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
新人士制度以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
5719.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
5721.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
中間很多植物類都有在調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
5721.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
5723.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
七十年開始實施到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
5723.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
5725.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
但是植物類等都有在調整 |
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5727.94 |
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歷次這幾年來都 |
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5727.94 |
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5729.94 |
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十幾年來每一次都有在調整 |
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那現在的問題就是說因為呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
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5733.94 |
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這個法警跟警察其實他們的本俸 |
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5735.94 |
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起序都是從一百五十點開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
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5737.94 |
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就是他們本俸是相同的 |
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5739.94 |
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差別基本上是在年供俸 |
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我們知道整個公共人員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
5741.94 |
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5743.94 |
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他整個公共人員的薪資結構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
5743.94 |
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5745.94 |
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他就包含是本俸專業加給 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
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還有植物加給 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
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5749.94 |
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再加上加班費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
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5751.94 |
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那現在法警跟警察其實最大的不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
5751.94 |
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5753.94 |
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就在於說警察的本俸 |
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5755.94 |
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他還可以一直往上面調 |
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5757.94 |
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他最高可以調到五百五十點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
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或是五百點 |
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5761.94 |
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或到五百二十五點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
5761.94 |
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5763.94 |
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可是呢如果說是法警的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
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5765.94 |
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他基本上可能就卡死了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
5765.94 |
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5767.94 |
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他最高只有到三百三十點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
5767.94 |
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5769.94 |
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我覺得也是因為如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
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5771.94 |
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所以法警同仁才會覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
5771.94 |
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5773.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
心裡面很不平衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
5773.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
5775.94 |
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那我們現在要講就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
5775.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
5777.94 |
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因為我們現在已經提出了這樣的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
5778.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
5780.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
如果說今天我們在場很多的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
5780.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
5782.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
包含司法院在內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
5782.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
5784.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
我們都支持未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
5784.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
5786.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
這個法警的質等要調到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
5787.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
5789.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
見任六職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
5789.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
5791.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
大概不外乎兩種做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
5791.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
5793.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
第一個就是現在的情況就三職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
5793.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
5795.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
就委任三職等然後調到見任六職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
5795.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
5797.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
不然的話如果說要符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
5797.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
5799.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
剛剛全區部的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
5799.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
5801.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
不然我們就把委任三職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
5801.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
5803.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
的這個地板 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
5803.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
5805.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
我們就往上面提嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
5805.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
5807.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
就是委員四職等到見任六職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
5807.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
5809.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
不知道就是全區部這邊看法如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
5809.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
5811.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
我跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
5811.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
5813.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
第一個法警跟警察兩個是不同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
5813.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
5815.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
任用制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
5815.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
5817.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
依照警察官的人質條例是禁用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
5817.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
5819.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
他們有他們的考試方式訓練方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
5819.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
5821.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
然後這完全是不同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
5821.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
5823.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
養成背景跟說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
5823.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
5825.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
而且他們工作內容一個是司法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
5825.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
5827.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
一個是工作內容是完全不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
5827.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
5829.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
把兩個東西把兩樣不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
5829.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
5831.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
植物把都成一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
5831.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
5833.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
這部分可能要請委員再慎重考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
5833.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
5835.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
那第二個部分是說因為我們現在考試 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
5835.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
5837.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
及格人員沒有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
5837.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
5839.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
直接就直接就進行權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
5839.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
5841.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
因為在任用制度上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
5841.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
5843.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
用權利這是這個是指說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
5843.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
5845.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
但是因為你表現很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
5845.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
5847.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
所以你申請的比較快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
5847.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
5849.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
所以才會有權利這樣的一個概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
5849.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
5851.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
我只是用白話說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
5851.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
5853.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
可是你一考試資格進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
5853.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
5855.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
就用三職人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
5855.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
5857.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
權利第四職都還在試用階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
5857.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
5859.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
試用階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
5859.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
5861.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
就進行權利這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
5861.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
5863.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
在法律上這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
5863.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
5865.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
是不妥適的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
5865.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
5867.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
而且我再跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
5867.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
5869.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
因為就像我們說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
5869.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
5871.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
公務人員的質等官等的這套制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
5871.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
5873.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
已經幾十年沒有改變了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
5873.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
5875.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
那的確它反映出很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
5875.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
5877.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
現在一些不合理的現象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
5877.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
5879.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
那我們現在就是要解決問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
5879.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
5881.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
我們是希望說能夠將法警的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
5881.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
5883.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
質等然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
5883.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
5885.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
申簽的質等然後能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
5885.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
5887.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
做個合理的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
5887.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
5889.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
那你不能說我們今天所有的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
5889.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
5891.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
然後全序部都說又違反公務人員認訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
5891.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
5893.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
又違反什麼什麼我們現在希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
5893.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
5895.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
解決所以本行希望全序部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
5895.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
5897.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
是不是可以提供一套 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
5897.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
5899.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
比較好的方式總之 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
5899.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
5901.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
我們就是要將法警的質等往上面提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
5901.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
5903.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
那你們認為要怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
5903.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
5905.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
修法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
5905.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
5907.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
不能每次都是我們這邊提的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
5907.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
5909.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
然後你們都一再的反對再反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
5909.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
5911.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
就像是我們修改這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
5911.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
5913.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
退休公告人員的年金改革法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
5913.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
5915.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
也一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
5914.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
5916.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
我們就是大家就認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
5916.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
5918.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
就一定要這樣做了然後全序部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
5918.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
5920.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
還是從頭到尾都反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
5920.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
5922.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
甚至連我們法律通過了你們還可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
5922.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
5924.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
做歪曲的解釋我不覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
5924.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
5926.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
我認為說這是全序部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
5926.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
5928.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
一個推卸責任的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
5928.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
5930.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
這個法律生效 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
5930.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
5932.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
依照中法規標準法規就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
5932.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
5934.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
向後生效這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
5934.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
5936.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
絕對不是我們部裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
5936.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
5938.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
可以用歪曲解釋的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
5938.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
5940.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
這個部分我不跟你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
5940.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
5942.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
討論因為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
5942.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
5944.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
本來就法律的間接解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
5944.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
5946.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
本來就有很大的不同我只是認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
5946.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
5948.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
全序部你們就是去做了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
5948.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
5950.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
最不合理的解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
5950.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
5952.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
那麼回到我們今天講的法院組織法的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
5953.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
5955.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
我希望你們能夠提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
5955.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
5957.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
如果我們要解決這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
5957.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
5959.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
要怎麼樣從法律上面去解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
5959.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
5961.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
否則的話我們可能就按照我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
5961.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
5963.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
這個幾個委員的這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
5963.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
5965.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
我們就這樣通過了不要到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
5965.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
5967.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
這個全序部又說這有違憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
5967.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
5969.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
又什麼什麼的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
5969.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
5971.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
好那麼在這裡的話就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
5971.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
5973.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
先謝謝懷旭懷制長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
5973.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
5975.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
那也希望你們一個月內可以給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
5975.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
5977.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
提出一個一個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
5977.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
5979.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
我覺得太晚了因為我們這個法案會加速進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
5979.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
5981.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
麻煩兩個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
5981.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
5983.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
兩個星期之內給我一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
5983.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
5985.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
這個就是你們提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
5985.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
5987.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
5987.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
5989.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
這方案好不好就是我們如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
5989.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
5991.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
要朝向提高值等的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
5991.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
5993.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
你們的建議做法是如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
5993.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
5995.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
好那就謝謝次長好那接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
5995.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
5997.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
我要再請教秘書長的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
5999.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
6001.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
最近其實有人在反映 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
6001.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
6003.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
我們看到桃園的一個法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
6005.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
6007.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
他在判決書上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
6007.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
6009.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
這個寫了一段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
6009.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
6011.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
很奇怪的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
6011.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
6013.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
那麼我們我想這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
6013.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
6015.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
高律書長因為您當法官也 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
6015.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
6017.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
這麼多年您大家很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
6017.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
6019.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
知道我們判決書的格式大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
6019.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
6021.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
是怎麼樣通常大概就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
6021.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
6023.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
判決主文主文之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
6023.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
6025.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
就會寫事實及理由你有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
6025.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
6027.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
曾經有看過人家在事實理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
6027.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
6029.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
之後的第一段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
6029.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
6031.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
先寫個叫寫在最 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
6031.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
6033.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
6033.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
6035.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
然後再開始去敘述 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
6035.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
6037.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
這個事實或者理由之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
6037.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
6039.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
還先寫個前言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
6041.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
6043.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
這當然這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
6043.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
6045.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
我不知道之前有沒有法官陳久這麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
6045.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
6047.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
但是呢我曉得的是說其實過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
6047.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
6049.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
也曾經發生過還蠻多起的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
6049.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
6051.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
這個在法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
6051.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
6053.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
他在寫完判決書之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
6053.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
6055.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
他寫個後記 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
6055.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
6057.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
對一個什麼附註事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
6057.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
6059.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
譬如說在早期有個法官書書 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
6059.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
6061.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
的判決他就寫個附記 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
6061.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
6063.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
事項或是說有所謂這種可憐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
6063.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
6065.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
小人物法官說這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
6065.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
6067.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
這個當事人可能是個可憐小人物 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
6067.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
6069.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
所以有所謂可憐小人物的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
6069.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
6071.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
後面寫個後記 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
6071.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
6073.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
或者是還有一個法官他就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
6073.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
6075.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
當時正好流行看這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
6075.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
6077.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
與惡的距離所以他就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
6077.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
6079.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
寫個與惡的距離的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
6079.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
6081.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
後面也寫了一個本案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
6081.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
6083.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
審理後的註記 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
6083.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
6085.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
所以類似像這種我們現在判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
6085.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
6087.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
裡面三不五時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
6087.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
6089.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
可能會看到一些奇奇怪怪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
6089.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
6091.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
這種現象不知道就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
6091.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
6093.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
民事長因為您 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
6093.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
6095.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
先前是當法院的院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
6095.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
6097.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
現在又當了司法院民事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
6097.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
6099.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
你有沒有認為像這樣子的判決書的撰寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
6101.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
6103.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
方式應該司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
6103.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
6105.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
要做一個行政指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
6105.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
6107.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
或是要頒布一個注意事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
6107.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
6109.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
我們可以容許這樣的寫法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
6109.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
6111.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
跟委員報告其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
6111.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
6113.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
判決該怎麼寫訴訟法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
6113.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
6115.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
規定的清清楚楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
6116.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
6118.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
那法官們他要多寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
6118.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
6120.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
他不是無效 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
6120.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
6122.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
他可能要表達他的情緒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
6122.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
6124.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
當然對於情緒的表達是不是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
6125.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
6127.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
整個訴訟法規定的範圍內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
6127.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
6129.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
老實說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
6129.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
6131.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
你要問我個人意見的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
6131.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
6133.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
是有斟酌的餘地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
6133.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
6135.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
6135.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
6137.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
這種話要不要在這邊寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
6137.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
6139.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
問我個人意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
6139.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
6141.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
我是不建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
6141.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
6143.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
因為有時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
6143.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
6145.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
可能應該在法庭上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
6145.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
6147.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
跟當事人講就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
6147.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
6149.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
不需要寫到判決裡面去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
6149.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
6151.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
6151.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
6153.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
我講判決的格式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
6152.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
6154.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
我個人是認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
6154.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
6156.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
一定要是嚴謹而且是嚴肅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
6157.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
6159.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
是非常贊同秘書長的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
6159.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
6161.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
觀點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
6161.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
6163.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
因為我跟您一樣的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
6163.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
6165.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
我覺得在判決書的這個裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
6165.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
6167.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
在第一段他先寫個前言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
6167.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
6169.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
還告訴這個當事人說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
6169.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
6171.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
你不要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
6171.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
6173.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
假設要提上訴的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
6173.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
6175.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
不要問AI |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
6175.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
6177.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
要去找一個有血有肉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
6177.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
6179.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
有執照的律師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
6179.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
6181.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
來幫他上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
6181.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
6183.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
我覺得其實這個都已經愉悅了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
6183.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
6185.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
這個法官的這個職權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
6185.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
6187.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
不知道這個秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
6187.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
6189.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
有沒有知道你們之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
6189.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
6191.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
有一位台灣高等法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
6191.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
6193.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
台南分院的法官叫林徵賢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
6193.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
6195.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
他曾經有寫過一篇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
6195.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
6197.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
報告一篇論文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
6197.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
6199.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
講說從我國判決書的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
6199.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
6201.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
復記事項來談當時他就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
6201.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
6203.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
講就是說有很多的法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
6203.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
6205.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
他可能會在判決之後但是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
6205.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
6207.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
法官簽名之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
6207.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
6209.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
他寫了他的感想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
6209.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
6211.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
他的這個復記事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
6211.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
6213.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
他也有從法律的角度去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
6213.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
6215.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
去質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
6215.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
6217.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
類似這種復記事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
6217.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
6219.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
他算不算是整體判決書的一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
6219.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
6221.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
如果說他是整體判決書的一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
6221.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
6223.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
那麼當當事人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
6223.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
6225.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
對於這個復記事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
6225.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
6227.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
或我們現在看這個前沿 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
6227.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
6229.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
認為內容有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
6229.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
6231.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
有違法或是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
6231.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
6233.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
不當的時候可不可以以此 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
6233.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
6235.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
作為上訴的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
6235.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
6237.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
我覺得這是一個很嚴肅的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
6237.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
6239.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
那個回答委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
6239.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
6241.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
判決是一件嚴肅的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
6241.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
6243.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
因為它絕對會牽涉到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
6243.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
6245.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
你任何寫的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
6245.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
6247.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
可不可以作為上訴的標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
6247.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
6249.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
這個是我們在法律上必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
6249.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
6251.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
很嚴格的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
6251.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
6253.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
來審視的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
6253.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
6255.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
所以呢因此本席在這邊希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
6256.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
6258.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
司法院是不是也可以在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
6258.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
6260.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
兩週內給本席一份 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
6260.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
6262.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
這個報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
6262.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
6264.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
可不可以請你們針對像類似 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
6264.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
6266.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
這種法官他在寫判決書上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
6266.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
6268.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
一些這樣的一個奇怪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
6268.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
6270.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
一些做法可以就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
6270.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
6272.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
有一個比較清楚的未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
6272.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
6274.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
要怎麼樣去指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
6274.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
6276.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
或者說是要怎麼樣的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
6276.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
6278.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
處理類似這種判決書的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
6278.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
6280.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
撰寫的方式好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
6280.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
6282.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
因為畢竟在我們民宿跟寫實訴訟法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
6282.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
6284.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
都有清楚規定判決書的記載 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
6284.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
6286.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
牽涉到審判核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
6286.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
6288.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
如果碰到審判核心我們司法行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
6288.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
6290.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
要有這個退縮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
6290.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
6292.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
一定要退縮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
6292.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
6294.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
當然如果他不是審判核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
6294.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
6296.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
我們可以做指導認測 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
6296.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
6298.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
是好那這部分的話就是麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
6298.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
6300.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
這個情緒組長這邊再給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
6300.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
6302.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
一份報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
6302.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
6304.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
好那接下來第三個問題就是有關於植物 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
6304.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
6306.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
評定的問題就像我們剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
6306.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
6308.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
其實有些法官他基本上已經變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
6308.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
6310.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
慣性他很喜歡在判決書裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
6310.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
6312.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
常常發表他自己的一些高見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
6312.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
6314.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
那麼當然除此之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
6314.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
6316.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
也有一些法官他可能涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
6316.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
6318.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
有貪污 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
6318.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
6320.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
或是性騷 霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
6320.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
6322.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
最近有出現有檢察官有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
6322.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
6324.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
放高利貸等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
6324.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
6326.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
本席想要談的就是說有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
6326.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
6328.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
這個法官植物評定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
6328.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
6330.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
的議題那其實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
6330.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
6332.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
前幾次的質詢裡面我都有關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
6332.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
6334.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
這議題只是當時因為秘書長沒有來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
6334.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
6336.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
但我在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
6336.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
6338.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
我又看到了還有另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
6338.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
6340.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
一個資料這是我在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
6340.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
6342.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
7月8號的時候當時提出質詢希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
6342.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
6344.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
法務部與司法院分別提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
6344.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
6346.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
檢察官及法官植物 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
6346.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
6348.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
評定的統計數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
6348.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
6350.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
結果我不看不知道一看嚇了一跳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
6350.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
6352.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
原來我們所有的四個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
6352.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
6354.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
司法官幾乎都是完人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
6354.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
6356.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
因為這個在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
6356.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
6358.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
從評鑑的統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
6358.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
6360.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
資料裡面顯示 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
6360.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
6362.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
幾乎99% |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
6362.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
6364.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
的法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
6364.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
6366.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
都是良好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
6366.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
6368.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
那麼真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
6368.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
6370.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
為達良好的法官的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
6370.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
6372.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
是非常之低 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
6372.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
6374.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
大概就100個人裡面頂多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
6374.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
6376.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
一個人所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
6376.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
6378.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
這個表現不好可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
6378.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
6380.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
事實上我們這些年也的確看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
6380.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
6382.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
蠻多社會新聞有看到就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
6382.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
6384.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
檢察官他不管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
6384.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
6386.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
在他的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
6386.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
6388.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
起訴行為或者法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
6388.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
6390.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
在他判決裡面其實也出了一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
6390.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
6392.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
那麼對於這個部分我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
6392.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
6394.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
請教就是司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
6394.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
6396.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
6395.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
6397.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
參考現在公務人員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
6397.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
6399.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
這種考績制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
6399.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
6401.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
應該將你們植物評等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
6401.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
6403.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
植物評定的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
6403.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
6405.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
要進行一些改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
6405.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
6407.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
目前就只有兩分法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
6407.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
6409.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
不是良好就是為達良好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
6409.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
6411.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
但是這個沒有辦法去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
6411.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
6413.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
真的去鑑別到底良好之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
6413.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
6415.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
還有沒有更優秀的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
6415.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
6417.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
而為達良好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
6417.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
6419.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
其實我們看到他整個結果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
6419.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
6421.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
人數和比例很低所以事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
6421.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
6423.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
好像並沒有辦法真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
6423.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
6425.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
去淘汰壞法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
6425.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
6427.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
或是壞檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
6427.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
6429.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
6429.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
6431.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
我想良好就是良好不要再去優秀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
6431.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
6433.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
什麼特優我覺得不要造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
6433.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
6435.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
一個競爭關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
6435.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
6437.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
那只是不良好我們有沒有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
6437.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
6439.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
對於不適任的法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
6439.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
6441.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
我們是給他良好嗎其實跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
6441.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
6443.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
我們會常常看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
6443.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
6445.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
法官有些判決好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
6446.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
6448.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
好像有點走歪了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
6448.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
6450.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
可是要跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
6450.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
6454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
法官在整年的判決上萬件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
6454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
6456.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
他偶爾一兩件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
6456.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
6458.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
沒錯是有瑕疵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
6458.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
6460.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
我們可以因為這一兩件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
6460.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
6462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
就說他不良好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
6462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
6464.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
其實這個是我們必須要慎重考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
6464.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
6466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
我常常開玩笑講說吃芝麻 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
6466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
6468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
吃燒餅偶爾就會掉一兩粒芝麻 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
6468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
6470.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
除非 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
6469.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
6471.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
委員提到的那種行為錯誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
6471.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
6473.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
像一些言行不檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
6473.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
6475.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
有封禁為師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
6475.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
6477.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
或有什麼性騷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
6477.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
6479.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
霸凌的這些司法人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
6479.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
6481.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
像這樣子的法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
6481.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
6483.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
他指不良好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
6483.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
6485.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
一定都是送評鑑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
6485.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
6487.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
我想那一種法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
6487.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
6489.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
我們司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
6489.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
6491.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
也絕對不會讓他存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
6491.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
6493.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
可是對於某些判決的瑕疵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
6493.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
6495.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
6496.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
6498.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
很難說他在處理上萬件的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
6498.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
6500.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
有個兩三件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
6500.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
6502.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
可能被非常上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
6502.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
6504.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
我們看上次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
6504.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
6506.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
主要是針對所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
6506.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
6508.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
會放縱獨價的法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
6508.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
6510.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
那麼他們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
6510.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
6512.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
多次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
6512.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
6514.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
獨價的羈押裁定裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
6514.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
6516.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
每一次他都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
6516.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
6518.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
像類似這種情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
6518.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
6520.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
其實也已經影響到社會觀感 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
6520.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
6522.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
那麼在你們植物評定法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
6522.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
6524.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
本來其實就有講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
6524.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
6526.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
就是法官的這個言行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
6526.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
6528.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
或他所做的裁定判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
6528.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
6530.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
如果說有損害社會的觀感的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
6530.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
6532.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
有損害社會的司法信任的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
6532.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
6534.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
你們其實也是可以做檢討的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
6534.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
6536.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
但是這個部分我其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
6536.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
6538.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
我沒有看到司法院對這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
6538.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
6540.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
有更深入的反思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
6540.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
6542.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
6542.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
6544.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
本期當然今天時間有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
6544.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
6546.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
那我希望就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
6546.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
6548.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
是不是可以請秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
6548.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
6550.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
可以就植物評定的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
6550.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
6552.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
你們也可以再去做個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
6552.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
6554.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
沒有收集到審判核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
6554.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
6556.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
我們絕對檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
6556.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
6558.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
我們一定要遵守 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
6558.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
6560.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
行為舉止 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
6560.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
6562.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
行為舉止 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
6562.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
6564.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
還有他的多次的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
6564.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
6566.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
可能都已經影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
6566.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
6568.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
社會觀感的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
6568.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
6570.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
我覺得這個部分其實是可以進行檢討的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
6570.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
6572.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
可是如果判決是審判核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
6572.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
6574.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
真的要請委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
6576.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
6578.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
好,謝謝翁委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
6587.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
6589.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
好,接下來我們有請審發會委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
6598.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
6600.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
主席我們請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
6600.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
6602.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
高民主長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
6601.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
6603.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
有請高秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
6606.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
6608.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
好,秘書長早 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
6608.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
6610.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
我們今天排了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
6610.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
6612.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
總委會排了16個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
6612.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
6614.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
基本上就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
6614.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
6616.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
一個法院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
6616.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
6618.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
跟四個專業法院的組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
6618.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
6620.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
大概就是這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
6620.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
6622.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
那這有16個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
6622.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
6624.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
但是裡面就獨缺我們司法院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
6624.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
6626.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
我們的版本到昨天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
6626.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
6628.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
我們8月3號送進來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
6628.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
6630.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
就8月3號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
6630.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
6632.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
就昨天送到理法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
6632.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
6634.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
終於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
6634.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
6636.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
是,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
6636.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
6638.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
所以這個變成說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
6638.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
6640.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
所以會變成我們今天列的案子沒有司法院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
6640.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
6642.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
那我們希望說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
6642.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
6644.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
我們傳續在未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
6644.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
6646.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
真的進入主條討論的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
6646.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
6648.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
能夠納入司法院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
6648.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
6650.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
一起討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
6650.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
6652.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
不過我看這16個案子大致上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
6652.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
6654.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
其實大家的方向都滿一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
6654.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
6656.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
跟司法院的版本就是有一些部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
6656.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
6658.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
的差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
6658.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
6660.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
差別,但是基本上的方向都很一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
6660.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
6662.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
這一次這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
6662.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
6664.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
這個五個法院組織法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
6664.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
6666.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
這個草案裡面大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
6667.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
6669.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
這是三個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
6669.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
6671.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
第一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
6671.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
6673.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
剛剛大家討論很多的就是有關於書記官的質等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
6673.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
6675.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
6675.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
6677.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
見證原則的這個比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
6677.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
6679.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
的提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
6679.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
6681.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
這是第一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
6681.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
6683.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
第二個就是有關於法警的這個主管的質等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
6683.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
6685.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
跟法警執勤的權限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
6685.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
6687.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
這大概是第二個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
6687.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
6689.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
那第三個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
6689.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
6691.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
有關違反法庭秩序的這個分級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
6691.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
6693.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
的處罰機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
6693.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
6695.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
大概我看這一次大概就這三個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
6695.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
6697.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
所以我就這三個部分一個一個來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
6697.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
6699.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
6699.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
6701.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
這個大方向我們都肯定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
6701.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
6703.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
這個基本上這個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
6703.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
6705.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
這個改革的方向是值得肯定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
6705.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
6707.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
而且他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
6707.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
6709.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
希望能夠讓這個司法校能跟安全維護 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
6709.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
6711.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
還有這個人民的訴訟權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
6711.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
6713.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
能夠同步提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
6713.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
6715.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
但是裡面有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
6715.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
6717.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
小小的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
6717.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
6719.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
我想應該請這個我們司法院這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
6719.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
6721.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
要說明比較清楚一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
6723.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
6725.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
這個我們事實上在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
6725.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
6727.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
今年5月4號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
6727.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
6729.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
我們就在本委員會在司法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
6729.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
6731.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
預算審查的時候那時候本席就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
6731.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
6733.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
針對這個書記官的包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
6733.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
6735.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
質等調整包括書記官的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
6735.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
6737.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
這個工作壓力缺額的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
6737.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
6739.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
那時候跟跟秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
6739.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
6741.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
我們有進行過討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
6741.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
6743.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
6743.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
6745.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
這個那時候討論重點就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
6745.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
6747.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
一方面我們今年有調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
6747.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
6749.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
這個書記官的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
6749.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
6751.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
這個加級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
6751.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
6753.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
書記官加級調整三成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
6753.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
6755.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
6754.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
6756.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
我們目前的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
6756.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
6758.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
書記官的這個面對的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
6758.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
6760.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
是以新北地方法院為例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
6761.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
6763.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
這個一個平均法官要面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
6763.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
6765.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
1300件案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
6765.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
6767.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
這個實在是壓力非常大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
6767.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
6769.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
那我們那時候有就是說我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
6769.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
6771.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
有兩個方向第一個就是法院主治法修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
6771.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
6773.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
就是我們這一次最重於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
6773.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
6775.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
這個司法院的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
6775.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
6777.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
送到立法院來這是法院主治法才會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
6777.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
6779.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
第二個我那時候談了一個重點就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
6779.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
6781.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
除了法院主治法之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
6781.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
6783.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
另外在刑事訴訟法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
6783.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
6785.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
有關於減輕書記官的工作負荷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
6785.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
6787.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
是要修訂刑事訴訟法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
6788.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
6790.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
要修訂刑事訴訟法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
6790.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
6792.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
有關於這個放寬這些筆錄製作方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
6792.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
6794.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
減輕這個書記官的這些工作負荷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
6794.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
6796.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
那那時候這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
6796.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
6798.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
秘書長也同意嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
6798.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
6802.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
那所以在這個我看我們在4月23號的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
6802.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
6804.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
我們司法院就通過了這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
6804.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
6806.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
這個刑事訴訟法的相關條文的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
6806.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
6808.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
那現在的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
6808.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
6810.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
那個行政院會選中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
6810.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
6812.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
行政院會選中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
6814.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
6816.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
有沒有了解為什麼我們4月送的到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
6816.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
6818.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
已經8月了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
6818.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
6820.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
為什麼還在會選中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
6820.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
6822.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
有什麼樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
6822.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
6824.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
你們也去了解有什麼樣的法律爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
6824.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
6826.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
我們是積極的跟他們協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
6826.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
6828.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
那原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
6829.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
6831.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
我們已經開會開過兩次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
6831.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
6833.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
那原因在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
6833.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
6835.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
他們還是沒有協商完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
6835.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
6837.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
沒有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
6837.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
6839.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
就是還沒有結束啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
6838.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
6840.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
對啊大家有開會嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
6840.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
6842.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
有開會開會過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
6842.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
6844.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
有什麼比較重大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
6844.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
6846.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
其實爭執點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
6846.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
6848.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
爭執點嗎為什麼會這麼久 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
6849.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
6851.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
就是我們這次的刑事訴訟的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
6851.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
6853.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
最重要的是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
6853.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
6855.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
減輕法官跟訴計官負擔的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
6856.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
6858.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
減化判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
6858.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
6860.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
法務部稍微有點意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
6860.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
6862.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
法務部有意見是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
6862.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
6864.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
6864.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
6866.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
好這個部分我希望說這個盡快打完溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
6866.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
6868.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
因為我們今天這個法院主治法這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
6868.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
6870.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
如果說我們開始審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
6870.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
6872.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
那未來很快的時間內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
6872.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
6874.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
我們能夠讓他通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
6874.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
6876.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
但是我們刑事訴訟法修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
6876.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
6878.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
你沒有去降低這些法官、訴計官的他的工作負荷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
6878.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
6880.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
實際這個工作負荷的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
6880.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
6882.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
這個可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
6882.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
6884.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
對於現在目前解決這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
6884.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
6886.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
但是訴計官的這些缺額問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
6886.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
6888.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
恐怕還是沒有辦法全面的解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
6888.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
6890.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
這是第一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
6890.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
6892.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
第二個就是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
6892.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
6894.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
這個訴計官的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
6894.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
6896.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
我提另外一個小點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
6896.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
6898.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
就是說我們除了這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
6898.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
6900.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
修法之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
6900.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
6902.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
我們另外同步的有關於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
6902.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
6904.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
訴計官的考試法制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
6904.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
6906.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
這個司法人員任用條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
6906.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
6908.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
裡面第18條第49條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
6908.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
6910.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
其實他都已經跟現實都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
6910.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
6912.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
脫節了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
6912.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
6914.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
我覺得應該要同步的修改 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
6914.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
6916.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
像是這個我們第18條說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
6916.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
6918.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
委任訴計官應具左列資格任用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
6918.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
6920.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
這個他裡面的第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
6920.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
6924.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
經這個普通考試法院訴計官考試及格者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
6924.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
6926.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
現在已經沒有這個所謂普通考試 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
6927.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
6929.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
這個法院書記官考試 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
6929.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
6931.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
現在都已經是司法特考 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
6931.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
6933.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
四等禁用了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
6932.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
6934.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
所以這部分我們這個司法人員任用條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
6934.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
6936.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
18條還擺在那裡都沒有去修改 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
6936.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
6938.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
這個部分第一個我希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
6938.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
6940.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
我覺得應該要同步修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
6942.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
6944.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
另外第19條這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
6944.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
6946.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
書記官的任用資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
6946.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
6948.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
有關這個鑑任職法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
6948.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
6950.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
書記官升任考試現在這個都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
6950.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
6952.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
整併成司法行政考試了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
6952.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
6954.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
所以這個法條都應該要做同步的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
6954.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
6956.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
好不好這個部分我希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
6956.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
6958.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
6958.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
6960.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
這個我們制度的改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
6960.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
6962.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
我們要全面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
6962.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
6964.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
全面的改不要說留下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
6964.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
6966.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
任用法制還是留在舊制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
6966.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
6968.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
6967.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
6969.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
希望能夠修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
6969.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
6971.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
書記官部分到這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
6971.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
6973.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
接下來來談這個法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
6973.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
6975.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
法警的部分事實上我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
6975.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
6977.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
也是本委員會3月30號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
6977.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
6979.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
我們就那時候有排一個專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
6979.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
6981.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
就是有關法院安全秩序的維護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
6981.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
6983.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
跟法警職權的行使 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
6983.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
6985.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
那個時候我大概就在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
6985.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
6987.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
也是跟我們秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
6987.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
6989.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
就我們的這個法警職權的行使 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
6989.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
6991.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
這個他的法制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
6991.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
6993.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
依據就在法院組織法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
6993.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
6995.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
那就是這一次我們要修法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
6995.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
6997.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
對要修法的一個重要的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
6997.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
6999.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
那這次修法我基本上肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
6999.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
7001.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
但是裡面有一個很特別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
7001.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
7003.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
我就是注意到我們司法院版本裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
7003.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
7005.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
就是我們過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
7005.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
7007.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
有關法警執行職務的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
7007.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
7009.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
這個相關的法律依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
7009.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
7011.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
是按照法院組織法第23條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
7011.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
7013.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
舊法原法23條第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
7013.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
7015.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
其管理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
7015.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
7017.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
由司法院會同行政院定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
7017.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
7019.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
7019.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
7021.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
管理辦法授權之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
7021.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
7023.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
第69條這個檢察機關的準用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
7023.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
7025.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
是第69條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
7025.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
7027.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
那這個依據這第23條第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
7027.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
7029.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
他授權的管理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
7029.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
7031.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
就是我們的法警管理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
7031.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
7033.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
法警管理辦法之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
7033.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
7035.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
在授權第二條在授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
7035.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
7037.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
適用相關法令的時候在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
7037.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
7039.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
訂定這台灣高檢署 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
7039.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
7041.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
還有這個另外這個高等法院各級法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
7041.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
7043.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
這些注意事項在授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
7043.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
7045.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
在注意事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
7046.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
7048.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
我注意到這個點我們這次的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
7048.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
7050.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
一個很重要的一個點就是我們把 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
7050.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
7052.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
原本現行說用23條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
7052.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
7054.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
第三項授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
7054.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
7056.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
那檢察機關有69條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
7056.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
7058.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
來準用你們這次把他改成這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
7058.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
7060.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
這個院檢分流了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
7061.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
7063.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
院檢分流了就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
7063.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
7065.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
有關法警管理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
7066 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
7068 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
這個法院的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
7068 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
7070 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
你們就還是變成你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
7070 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
7072 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
把那個原本第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
7072 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
7074 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
從這個23條之3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
7074 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
7076 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
你們把他拉出來到變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
7076 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
7078 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
23條之4訂了這個管理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
7078 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
7080 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
原本以前要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
7080 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
7082 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
會同行政院訂之你把行政院拿掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
7082 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
7084 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
也就是說你們法院的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
7084 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
7086 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
你們就司法院自己訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
7086.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
7088.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
對不對在23條之4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
7088.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
7090.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
檢察機關的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
7090.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
7092.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
你們原本用69條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
7092.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
7094.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
準用你們現在把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
7095.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
7097.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
用69條第四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
7098.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
7100.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
要由行政院或法務部現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
7100.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
7102.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
兩個案子行政院訂之或法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
7102.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
7104.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
就是檢察機關的你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
7104.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
7106.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
行政體系自己去訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
7106.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
7108.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
法院的部分我自己來訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
7108.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
7110.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
有關於你們把法警這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
7110.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
7112.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
管理這個在院檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
7112.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
7114.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
這樣子做分流你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
7114.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
7116.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
考量用意是什麼因為他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
7116.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
7118.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
這個職務上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
7118.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
7120.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
具有相當的共通性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
7120.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
7122.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
他的這些刑務標準訓練跟權益保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
7122.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
7124.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
是不是未來會變成不一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
7124.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
7126.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
這個部分你們把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
7126.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
7128.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
法警管理辦法院檢分流 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
7128.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
7130.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
你們的考量是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
7131.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
7133.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
福利什麼這個執政什麼大家都一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
7133.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
7135.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
因為這是管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
7135.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
7137.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
辦法對沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
7137.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
7139.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
院檢有共通性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
7139.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
7141.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
可是也有個別的特殊性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
7141.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
7143.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
法院是公開法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
7144.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
7146.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
那個檢察署他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
7146.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
7148.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
偵查是不一定公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
7148.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
7150.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
其實光這個的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
7150.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
7152.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
差別性其實在法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
7152.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
7154.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
的管理就有不一樣的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
7154.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
7156.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
所以老實說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
7156.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
7158.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
因為管理辦法是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
7158.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
7160.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
真正實務什麼任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
7160.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
7162.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
的執行由各 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
7162.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
7164.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
7164.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
7166.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
行政院跟法務部自行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
7166.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
7168.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
就法警特殊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
7168.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
7170.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
狀況在管理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
7171.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
7173.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
我們只寫管理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
7173.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
7175.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
可是對於法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
7175.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
7177.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
有些是管理喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
7177.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
7179.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
可是不應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
7179.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
7181.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
對這是原本的管理辦法是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
7181.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
7183.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
檢察機關是直接准用法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
7183.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
7185.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
但你們現在把它分開來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
7185.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
7187.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
對因為所以我們現在只是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
7187.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
7189.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
法警的職權是准用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
7189.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
7191.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
可是以前法警職權沒有規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
7191.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
7193.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
所以欠缺法源依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
7193.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
7195.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
這是把它規定清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
7195.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
7197.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
這塊是法警他的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
7197.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
7199.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
已經不是職權了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
7199.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
7201.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
原本是授權嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
7201.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
7203.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
可是因為那個授權不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
7203.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
7205.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
那你現在變成說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
7205.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
7207.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
司法院自己授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
7207.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
7209.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
然後檢察機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
7209.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
7211.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
自己再授權分成兩部管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
7211.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
7213.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
辦法因為法警管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
7213.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
7215.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
絕對會有不同性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
7215.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
7217.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
那與其讓兩院這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
7217.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
7219.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
這個部分我想是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
7219.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
7221.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
這次修法一個很重要的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
7221.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
7223.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
所以我覺得要說明清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
7223.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
7225.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
但是除了這個以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
7225.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
7227.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
你其實授權了是現在檢察機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
7227.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
7229.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
那如果說行政體系自己來制定的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
7229.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
7231.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
也有你們司法院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
7231.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
7233.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
跟行政院的版本也不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
7233.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
7235.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
你們司法院的版本是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
7235.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
7237.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
由行政院訂資 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
7237.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
7239.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
但是行政院的版本是由法務部訂資 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
7239.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
7241.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
那我們尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
7241.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
7243.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
因為我們寫行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
7243.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
7245.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
司法院嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
7245.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
7247.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
這邊應該就寫行政院嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
7247.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
7249.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
那它要改為法務部我們尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
7249.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
7251.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
你們尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
7251.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
7253.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
那這個法...我想這個院檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
7253.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
7255.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
院檢的這個...這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
7255.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
7257.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
法警的這個規範授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
7257.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
7259.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
你們把它分流這個部分我想是未來在審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
7259.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
7261.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
會是我們必須要說明清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
7261.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
7263.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
為什麼那這樣子的院檢分流 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
7263.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
7265.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
因為我們現在也還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
7265.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
7267.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
收到相關的這些就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
7267.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
7269.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
到底這個分流之後它會有什麼樣影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
7269.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
7271.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
對院跟檢的這些法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
7271.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
7273.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
他們權益上面他們未來的這些訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
7273.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
7275.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
會不會有影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
7276.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
7278.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
好那最後一個部分就是我們這次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
7278.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
7280.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
修法的第三個部分喔就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
7280.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
7282.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
有關於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
7284.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
7286.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
這個妨礙法庭秩序喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
7287.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
7289.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
我們這個妨礙法庭秩序的部分我們這次也做了修改啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
7289.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
7291.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
過去妨礙法庭秩序是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
7291.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
7293.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
經制止不聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
7293.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
7295.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
就直接進入刑罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
7295.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
7297.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
直接由刑事處罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
7297.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
7299.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
來進行啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
7299.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
7301.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
那現在這次修法變成改成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
7301.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
7303.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
罰還先刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
7303.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
7305.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
罰還先刑就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
7305.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
7307.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
你第一次就是罰還 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
7307.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
7309.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
那在一年內再犯才進入刑罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
7309.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
7311.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
你們這個的這個修法的考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
7311.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
7313.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
是什麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
7313.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
7315.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
7315.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
7317.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
先刑罰直接進刑罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
7318.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
7320.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
直接去刑罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
7320.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
7322.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
會造成時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
7322.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
7324.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
這個受 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
7324.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
7326.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
制止人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
7326.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
7328.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
又經制止不聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
7328.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
7330.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
可是因為他直接進入刑罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
7330.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
7332.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
他是一個冗長的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
7332.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
7334.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
那現在我們改成這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
7334.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
7336.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
是讓法官他馬上可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
7336.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
7338.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
刻意罰還是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
7338.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
7340.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
立即產生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
7340.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
7342.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
這個一個嚇阻效用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
7342.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
7344.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
其實最重要的目的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
7344.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
7346.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
目的是這個就是讓法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
7346.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
7348.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
可以當庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
7348.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
7350.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
當庭就可以產生罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
7350.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
7352.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
這部分我肯定啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
7352.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
7354.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
但是這裡面會有一個問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
7354.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
7356.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
你這個因為你們規定要進入刑罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
7356.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
7358.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
是要在一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
7358.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
7360.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
一年內再犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
7360.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
7362.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
你們這些相關的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
7362.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
7364.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
罰還的裁定紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
7364.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
7366.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
這個確定以後你們有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
7366.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
7368.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
機關來建置來保存 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
7368.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
7370.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
來管理讓我可以知道你這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
7370.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
7372.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
這次的到底是不是再犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
7372.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
7374.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
這個當然一定我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
7374.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
7376.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
建置一個系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
7376.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
7378.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
對法官太重要了一定要建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
7378.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
7380.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
一個系統讓這個被 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
7380.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
7382.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
當事人馬上呈現出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
7382.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
7384.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
有這種狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
7384.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
7386.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
這個系統要相配到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
7386.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
7388.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
的建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
7388.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
7390.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
你會造成這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
7390.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
7392.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
有人被制止 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
7392.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
7394.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
有人被裁罰有人被移送 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
7394.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
7396.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
發生的小法律效果是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
7396.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
7398.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
一定要建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
7398.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
7400.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
那其他的更細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
7400.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
7402.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
的部分我希望未來我們在逐條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
7402.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
7404.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
討論的時候我剛所講幾個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
7404.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
7406.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
我覺得我們這個司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
7406.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
7408.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
要把它說清楚了好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
7408.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
7410.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
7410 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
7412 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
好謝謝申委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
7412 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
7414 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
那接下來我們有請莊瑞雄召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
7414 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
7416 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
來進行發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
7426.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
7428.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
謝謝主席有請我們司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
7428.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
7430.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
高秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
7435.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
7437.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
理事長幾個問題來請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
7437.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
7439.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
就是上禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
7439.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
7441.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
我看考試院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
7441.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
7443.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
他也把這個通過了司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
7443.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
7445.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
會賢的五部組織法的一個修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
7445.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
7447.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
你們的當事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
7447.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
7449.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
你們可能好像提出的時間比較晚吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
7450.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
7452.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
這一次的委員會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
7452.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
7454.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
你們的案子裡面好像就沒有列進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
7457.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
7459.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
昨天才進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
7459.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
7461.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
行政院會賢啊又送考試院會賢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
7461.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
7463.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
所以8月3號送到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
7463.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
7465.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
桂園來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
7465.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
7467.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
行政院就是會賢的時間很久啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
7467.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
7469.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
所以至少有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
7469.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
7471.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
確定的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
7471.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
7473.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
那我想啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
7473.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
7475.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
應該更值得來做一個關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
7475.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
7477.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
7477.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
7479.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
目前立法院裡面也有多位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
7479.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
7481.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
提出修法的一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
7481.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
7483.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
那你司法院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
7483.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
7485.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
你跟其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
7485.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
7487.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
其他委員所提出來的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
7487.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
7489.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
你有去比較他想法的差異嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
7489.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
7491.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
是 有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
7491.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
7493.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
你覺得怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
7493.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
7495.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
你譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
7495.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
7497.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
這次改革的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
7497.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
7499.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
其實我們在司法委員會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
7499.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
7501.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
大家其實都蠻關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
7501.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
7503.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
你看你書記官的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
7503.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
7505.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
職務的一個列等裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
7505.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
7507.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
或者說是改善他們的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
7507.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
7509.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
升遷的一個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
7509.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
7511.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
關心了很久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
7511.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
7513.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
我相信司法院也非常的一個關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
7513.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
7515.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
那如果說在質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
7515.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
7517.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
在法警的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
7517.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
7519.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
確實你如果法律沒有一個明文 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
7519.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
7521.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
給他去授權的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
7521.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
7523.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
那會很麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
7523.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
7525.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
所以你要提升法警的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
7525.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
7527.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
整個職等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
7527.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
7529.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
增設法警的小隊長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
7529.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
7531.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
明確法律的一個授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
7531.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
7533.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
你說你法警到底你的職權你對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
7533.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
7535.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
把它補足法律上的一個依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
7535.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
7537.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
這個是對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
7537.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
7539.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
那如何去強化整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
7539.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
7541.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
安全的一個檢查的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
7541.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
7543.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
這個在整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
7542.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
7544.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
我看這樣把它聽下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
7544.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
7546.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
我們司法法制委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
7546.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
7548.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
對這塊其實大家都要跟你支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
7548.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
7550.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
歐委員在砍預算是砍得很狠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
7550.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
7552.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
可是對你們司法院算是很好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
7552.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
7554.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
你們也真的要補給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
7555.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
7557.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
我一直認為法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
7557.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
7559.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
你像比如說我們在討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
7559.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
7561.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
這個書記官的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
7561.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
7563.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
在討論法警的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
7563.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
7565.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
其實都不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
7565.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
7567.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
只有在談他們的待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
7567.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
7569.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
就是要談說你這些補足 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
7569.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
7571.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
這些人力以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
7571.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
7573.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
不要被人騙不要被人造不來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
7573.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
7575.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
其實最終的一個目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
7575.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
7577.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
就是這個法院都是人民在用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
7577.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
7579.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
這個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
7579.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
7581.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
是要給老百姓用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
7581.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
7583.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
讓老百姓接近這個法院的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
7583.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
7585.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
大家覺得說這個司法來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
7585.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
7587.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
是很溫暖的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
7587.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
7589.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
那個是可以接近性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
7589.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
7591.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
重點是在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
7591.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
7593.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
所以這個部分我聽到你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
7593.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
7595.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
會選過後就上去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
7595.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
7597.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
你們的版本還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
7597.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
7599.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
時間上其實有時候在修法的過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
7599.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
7601.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
你們都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
7601.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
7603.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
我不知道你們中間出現什麼樣的一個環節 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
7603.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
7605.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
有時候速度立法院既然要支持的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
7605.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
7607.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
你們都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
7607.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
7609.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
再好好的再加一把勁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
7609.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
7611.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
另外我想要來請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
7611.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
7613.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
就是我們那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
7613.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
7615.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
我看應該是少年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
7615.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
7617.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
再見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
7616.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
7618.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
來聽到沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
7618.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
7620.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
我看對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
7620.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
7622.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
這次法警除了傳統的戒護以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
7622.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
7624.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
的訓練以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
7624.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
7626.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
對於整個精神疾病的辨識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
7626.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
7628.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
跟危機處理非暴力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
7628.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
7630.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
這個部分還有跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
7630.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
7632.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
非暴力介入跟保護性約束的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
7632.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
7634.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
要去建立一個完整的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
7634.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
7636.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
訓練的一個內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
7636.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
7638.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
那我想這個部分其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
7638.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
7640.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
都肯定了因為你精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
7640.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
7642.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
衛生法庭上路以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
7642.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
7644.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
但是我們也要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
7644.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
7646.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
法警準備好了沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
7646.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
7648.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
法警到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
7648.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
7650.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
我看桃園地院精神法庭的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
7650.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
7652.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
上次去考察完 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
7652.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
7654.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
那一句話確實聽了是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
7654.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
7656.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
滿感動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
7656.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
7658.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
就是說那些人是董事人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
7658.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
7660.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
離開的是被理解的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
7660.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
7662.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
那個確實就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
7662.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
7664.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
我必須要去提醒的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
7664.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
7666.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
你整個法庭的設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
7666.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
7668.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
你把它去法庭化了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
7668.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
7670.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
這個是可以肯定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
7670.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
7672.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
但是你危機處理的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
7672.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
7674.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
我們一般在看那個精神衛生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
7674.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
7676.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
一個事件裡面常常會看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
7676.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
7678.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
它發生的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
7678.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
7680.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
跟人比較不同嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
7680.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
7682.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
精神上情緒上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
7682.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
7684.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
這個可能失控 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
7684.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
7686.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
可能會去致傷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
7686.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
7688.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
可能會去傷害別人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
7688.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
7690.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
或者說突發的這個攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
7690.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
7692.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
所以要請教就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
7692.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
7694.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
你們對於法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
7694.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
7696.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
是不是已經完成完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
7696.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
7698.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
一個訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
7698.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
7700.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
譬如說一般大家在講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
7700.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
7702.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
精神疾病的辨識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
7702.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
7704.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
危機要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
7704.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
7706.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
非暴力的介入 保護性的約束 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
7706.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
7708.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
跟醫療團體合作的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
7708.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
7710.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
我不知道你們現在情形如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
7710.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
7712.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
來聽著 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
7714.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
7716.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
謝謝委員的詢詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
7716.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
7718.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
向委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
7718.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
7720.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
我們分北中南三區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
7720.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
7724.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
所承辦精神衛生法專家參選新制的法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
7724.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
7730.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
我們都組成一個總指教官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
7730.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
7732.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
就是兩位女法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
7732.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
7734.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
兩位男法警 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
7734.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
7736.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
一位至少是副法警長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
7736.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
7738.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
這五位我們已經洽請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
7738.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
7742.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
急診醫學這個學會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
7742.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
7746.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
的一個緊急保護病人的醫療小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
7746.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
7748.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
來專業訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
7748.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
7750.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
那現在分北在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
7750.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
7752.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
北中南三區專業訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
7752.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
7754.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
那他來自以CRPD |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
7754.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
7756.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
跟我國精神衛生法規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
7756.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
7758.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
病人他不是犯罪人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
7758.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
7760.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
所以他到法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
7760.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
7762.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
不可以用被告的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
7762.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
7764.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
來介護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
7764.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
7766.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
來用試用戒具 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
7766.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
7768.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
來試用電擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
7768.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
7770.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
或者是噴霧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
7770.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
7774.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
他必須用醫療法所規定的束帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
7774.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
7778.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
那束帶又必須專業訓練才會使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
7778.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
7782.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
然後束帶又必須保護他生命安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
7782.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
7784.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
所以我們在我們的保護室 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
7784.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
7788.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
已經依照精神醫學會給我們的協助 |
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我們設置了一個保護室裡面 |
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可以使用束帶的一個地方 |
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那這些法警目前 |
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我們規劃好正在進行訓練 |
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訓練完我們收集完 |
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我們會寫這個所謂 |
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專門為精神衛生法病人保護的 |
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使用束帶的指引跟手冊 |
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然後等到這些專業的種子訓練完 |
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我們會擴起到一般法警都要 |
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長年教育訓練 |
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這個是非常重要的一環 |
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謝謝委員關注這個議題 |
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以上報告 |
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但是這個 |
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你們也必須要意識到一個問題 |
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傳統的法警的訓練 |
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跟我們現在我們現在整個精神疾病 |
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這樣的一個法庭裡面所佈置的法警 |
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我們先給他教育訓練 |
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你看你把他訓練出來後 |
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跟傳統法警已經都不一樣了 |
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你那個代務的部分 |
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跟他的執掌的部分 |
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你不覺得你訓練一波 |
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你讓你覺得是變精英出來後 |
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我如果說北三院跟其他你們兩個指標的 |
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這個這幾個法院 |
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可能就是因為案件會比較多 |
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你們人力的問題 |
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為了先來 |
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這裡你把他訓練出來後 |
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讓你們救了他後 |
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這裡訓練出來 |
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當然很好 |
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當然很好 |
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可是問題就是說 |
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他訓練出來的受盡 |
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拼盡力量就很高了 |
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可是你那個待遇還跟一般的 |
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你跟一般的 |
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傳統的法警 |
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7888.19 |
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你有沒有覺得會比較奇怪 |
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謝謝委員 |
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我們也希望分計畫 |
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可是沒辦法 |
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那我們也只能給加班費 |
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可是加班費是有限的 |
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我只能這樣回答委員 |
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這不能說沒辦法 |
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這也不是這樣說 |
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是啦 |
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你可能沒有 |
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因為你有期長到待遇 |
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我就跟你說 |
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侃律算那麼狠的 |
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翁委員對你們都那麼有菩薩心腸 |
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要給你們支持 |
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你不能講沒有辦法 |
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稍微先講一下 |
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他對 |
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沒有 |
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我跟翁委員對這個 |
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7922.8 |
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對司法院這個部分 |
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像對於法院這個部分 |
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我們認為有需要 |
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我們真的 |
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在司法法治委員 |
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我們真的沒跟你分洞牌 |
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你像這款硬體的一個設置 |
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你到最後如果老百姓真的要用的 |
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7934.8 |
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你總是要去做一個提升 |
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你去看歐盟 |
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你去看日本 |
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我們自助上去做比較的時候 |
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7942.8 |
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我們總是要銜接上來 |
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人家這有喝過洋墨水 |
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對這部分看制度的建置 |
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對整個國家長遠是有幫助的 |
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那當然要去做啊 |
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7954.7 |
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本期的意思就是說 |
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那個人都給你們訓練出來之後 |
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他已經不是法警了 |
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沒有啦 |
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7963.96 |
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我意思說那個人力的品質跟素質 |
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7965.96 |
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搞不好他已經看不上你那一份薪水了 |
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7966.96 |
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我跟你講 |
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所以我們要用想像的說 |
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7972.56 |
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我這個整個對於精神疾病 |
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7974.56 |
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我到時候這個法警 |
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7976.56 |
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我要訓練他要怎麼辨識 |
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7976.56 |
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7978.56 |
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要訓練要怎麼危機處理 |
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7982.56 |
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這個我要變成保護性的約束的時候 |
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7985.56 |
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要做一些對身體的強制 |
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7987.56 |
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自由的一個強制的時候 |
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7989.56 |
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我這個時候我要分辨出哪一些 |
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7991.56 |
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我有哪一些特殊的一個技能 |
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7995.11 |
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這如果說訓練起來之後 |
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7996.11 |
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完整的教育訓練出來 |
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叫我做法警我不是啦 |
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7998.11 |
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我要來打劫了 |
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8000.11 |
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我還要這麼好的人力的一個素質 |
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8000.11 |
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我的意思說待遇 |
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其實這一個部分 |
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8005.38 |
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長期都偏低 |
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8007.85 |
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為什麼長期會偏低 |
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8009.04 |
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8011.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
一般大家覺得去做法警的人多涼 |
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8012.04 |
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這麼簡單 |
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不會 |
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8013.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
8015.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
我說外界 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
8015.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
8017.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
我們賦予法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
8017.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
8019.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
我們為什麼今天要立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
8019.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
8021.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
就是說要授權你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
8021.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
8023.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
法警就跟警察就不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
8023.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
8024.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
8024.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
8026.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
如果法警跟警察是一樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
8026.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
8027.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
那幹嘛要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
8027.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
8028.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
我們還有一個法律的依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
8028.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
8031.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
要給法警當他執行他的職務的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
8031.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
8032.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
有基於法律的授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
8032.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
8034.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
他可以做一些什麼什麼什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
8034.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
8035.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
如果沒有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
8035.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
8037.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
警察職權刑事法就有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
8037.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
8038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
那就是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
8038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
8040.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
法警就跟警察又不一樣啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
8040.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
8042.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
所以我是覺得這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
8042.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
8043.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
這部分我是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
8043.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
8044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
要去做一個思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
8044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
8047.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
待遇該提升的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
8047.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
8049.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
我們會往這方面來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
8049.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
8051.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
也請委員多多支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
8051.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
8052.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
是嘛你不一定要硬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
8052.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
8053.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
你硬說沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
8053.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
8054.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
不然我們要跟你支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
8054.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
8056.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
因為要外機關嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
8056.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
8057.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
所以我們要跟外機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
8057.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
8059.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
共同來努力才有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
8060.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
8062.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
在公務機關裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
8062.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
8065.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
人力素質品質越提升的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
8065.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
8067.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
對老百姓越有幫助啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
8067.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
8069.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
可是你把它提升到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
8069.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
8070.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
它的其實它的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
8070.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
8072.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
素質已經很高的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
8072.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
8074.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
他也會去比較啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
8074.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
8076.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
他會覺得我這麼強 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
8076.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
8078.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
我領你這麼一點點的一個待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
8078.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
8080.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
他會覺得這個配 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
8080.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
8085.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
這個待遇跟他所做的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
8085.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
8086.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
不成比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
8086.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
8088.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
我最後要問一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
8088.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
8090.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
就是說科技化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
8090.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
8091.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
說科技化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
8091.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
8092.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
手沒夠嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
8092.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
8094.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
這種科技你說AI |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
8094.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
8097.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
譬如說你講的那個call center |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
8097.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
8100.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
其實一般民眾會想詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
8100.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
8103.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
他對於整個司法機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
8103.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
8105.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
法院能夠提供他怎麼樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
8105.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
8107.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
好的一個答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
8107.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
8109.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
差不多你給他匯整開之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
8109.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
8111.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
你說現在400折嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
8111.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
8113.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
不止啊什麼400折 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
8113.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
8115.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
上將近兩三千折 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
8115.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
8117.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
沒有啦我是說通用都用得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
8117.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
8119.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
核心啊核心問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
8119.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
8121.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
沒有我們光通用的就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
8121.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
8124.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
我們司儀你已經一千折以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
8124.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
8125.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
好一千折 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
8125.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
8126.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
這樣又如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
8126.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
8127.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
然後再把它集中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
8127.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
8129.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
要再集中再集中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
8129.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
8131.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
一千折你不要說一千折啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
8131.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
8132.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
精華五百折左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
8132.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
8134.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
精華 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
8134.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
8135.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
也不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
8135.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
8137.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
有AI你要用後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
8137.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
8138.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
不要說一千折啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
8138.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
8140.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
你要五千折的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
8140.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
8141.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
你要讓它調列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
8141.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
8143.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
把它讓它核心弄出來以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
8143.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
8145.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
還是要善用啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
8145.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
8147.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
對我們在call center裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
8147.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
8149.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
就是要善用AI |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
8149.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
8152.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
你完全靠人力是不可能的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
8152.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
8153.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
是啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
8153.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
8155.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
這個人力是整個要配套進去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
8155.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
8157.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
所以但是科技尤其這一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
8157.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
8159.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
比較這樣的一個建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
8159.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
8161.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
其實就是要讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
8161.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
8163.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
第一線的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
8163.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
8165.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
第一線的人打贏 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
8165.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
8166.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
要去打贏 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
8166.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
8168.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
那以上比如說那個客服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
8168.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
8170.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
你有時候司機關貪圖要貪死 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
8170.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
8172.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
還有那些人要去問這些有的沒的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
8172.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
8174.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
但他要去詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
8174.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
8175.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
民眾或者當事人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
8175.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
8177.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
去詢問你又不能說當事人不能關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
8177.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
8179.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
那你還是要去做一個提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
8179.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
8181.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
那該交給科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
8181.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
8183.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
就去交給科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
8183.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
8186.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
這行政的工作可以盡量去做一個簡化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
8186.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
8188.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
這部分我看這不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
8188.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
8190.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
所以我們今天要問的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
8190.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
8192.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
不是只有法警跟司機關的代務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
8192.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
8194.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
其實連這個司法體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
8197.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
8199.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
真的是也要跟上時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
8199.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
8201.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
要跟上時代就是開機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
8201.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
8204.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
要開機就是要你們自己的設計出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
8204.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
8206.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
你們自己有一個制度送進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
8206.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
8208.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
立法委員沒那麼厲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
8208.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
8209.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
但是你的制度設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
8209.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
8210.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
你就覺得不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
8210.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
8212.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
大家跟你們一起支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
8212.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
8214.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
不能跟我們說你沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
8214.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
8216.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
我們等著要跟你們支持好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
8216.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
8217.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
8217.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
8218.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
8219.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
8221.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
好謝謝莊昭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
8221.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
8222.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
我稍微聲明一下 |
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8222.66 |
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8223.66 |
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我雖然砍預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
8223.66 |
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8225.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
可是我基本上對司法院預算是支持的 |
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8225.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
8227.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
我只是刪的是憲法法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
8227.66 |
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8229.66 |
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因為他現在沒有組成 |
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8229.66 |
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8231.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
大法官都沒有到期 |
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8231.66 |
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8233.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
所以我是這裡是 |
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8233.66 |
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8235.66 |
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是是非分明 |
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8235.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
8237.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
嘿嘿嘿 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
8237.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
8239.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
好謝謝莊昭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
8239.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
8241.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
那接下來我們就有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
8243 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
8245 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
對不起接下來是 |
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8245 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
8247 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
鍾嘉斌委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
8247 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
8249 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
鍾嘉斌委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
8249 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
8251 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
鄭振淺委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
8251 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
8253 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
鄭振淺委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
8253 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
8255 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
蘇青泉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
8255 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
8257 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
蘇青泉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
8257 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
8258 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
蘇青泉委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
8258 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
8260 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
那我先做一個程序上面的聲明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
8260 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
8262 |
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待會林淑芬委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
8262.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
8264.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
直播完畢之後我們就先休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
8264.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
8268.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
如果說是陳萬霆委員有到場的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
8268.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
8269.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
那我們就休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
8269.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
8270.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
如果說他沒有的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
8270.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
8272.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
或許我們就等法院委員就一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
8274.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
8276.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
8278.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
8280.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
沒關係就是說如果說是陳萬霆委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
8280.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
8281.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
然後我們就休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
8281.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
8282.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
如果說沒有的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
8282.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
8285.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
那我們就請范雲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
8285.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
8286.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
范雲委員質詢完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
8286.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
8288.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
我們就再一起休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
8288.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
8290.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
好那接下來就有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
8290.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
8292.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
林淑芬委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
8294.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
8295.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
好謝謝主席喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
8295.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
8298.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
是不是請我們這個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
8298.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
8299.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
呃院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
8299.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
8300.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
不秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
8300.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
8301.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
請秘書長來請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
8301.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
8302.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
我告訴秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
8309.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
8310.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
委員早 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
8310.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
8311.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
秘書長早 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
8311.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
8314.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
你們提出這個法院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
8314.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
8317.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
還有這個行政法院組織法等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
8317.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
8319.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
的條文的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
8319.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
8322.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
對外說是要提高這個書記官法警長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
8322.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
8324.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
副法警長的職務列等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
8324.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
8327.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
提高他們的待遇保障他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
8327.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
8330.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
那也要明確化法警辦理職務的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
8330.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
8332.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
8332.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
8334.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
在這一包修法當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
8334.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
8336.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
卻夾帶了一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
8336.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
8338.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
現在還沒有復圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
8338.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
8341.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
然後也沒有完成一讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
8341.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
8344.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
然後你今天的報告就已經寫出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
8344.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
8348.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
就是跟書記官法警都無關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
8348.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
8351.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
藐視法官的命令的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
8352.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
8353.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
你知道吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
8354.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
8356.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
我們在那個組織法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
8356.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
8357.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
8358.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
8360.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
修正長按多放在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
8361.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
8364.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
15條就關於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
8365.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
8367.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
因為法官他會發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
8367.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
8369.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
就是95條的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
8369.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
8371.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
就是要維持法庭秩序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
8371.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
8372.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
這沒有夾帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
8372.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
8373.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
你現在在說什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
8373.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
8375.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
你現在還沒完成一讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
8375.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
8376.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
也沒有復圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
8376.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
8377.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
8377.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
8378.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
8月3號才送進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
8378.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
8379.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
連一讀都還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
8379.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
8380.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
你就已經說明了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
8380.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
8384.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
但這程序上不是重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
8384.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
8385.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
我不是要跟你談這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
8385.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
8388.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
你們都認為理所當然的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
8388.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
8392.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
這個我們都不一定認為是理所當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
8392.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
8394.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
我要請教你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
8394.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
8395.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
好 秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
8395.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
8397.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
大法官這個憲判 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
8397.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
8398.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
這個是不是宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
8398.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
8401.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
刑法第140條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
8401.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
8404.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
侮辱公務員罪部分違憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
8404.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
8405.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
8405.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
8408.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
這是很大的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
8409.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
8410.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
8411.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
8412.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
那怎麼辦呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
8412.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
8415.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
113年憲判第5號說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
8415.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
8418.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
關於侮辱公務員罪的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
8418.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
8424.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
應限縮於行為人對公務員的當場侮辱行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
8424.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
8427.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
是基於妨礙公務的主觀目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
8427.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
8432.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
而且要足以影響公務員執行公務的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
8432.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
8434.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
在這個範圍裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
8434.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
8435.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
始於憲法第11條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
8435.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
8438.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
保障言論自由的義止無違 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
8438.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
8440.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
這是大府憲說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
8440.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
8444.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
這個侮辱公務員罪的構成要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
8444.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
8446.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
必須要很嚴謹 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
8446.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
8448.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
那我現在跟你講秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
8448.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
8450.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
一般公務員被侮辱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
8450.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
8453.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
對方是主觀上我就是故意要妨礙你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
8453.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
8454.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
而且造成了妨礙 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
8454.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
8456.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
而且我就是要侮辱你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
8456.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
8459.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
而且造成妨礙才會構成犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
8459.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
8462.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
那你們現在的提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
8462.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
8464.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
現行的不要說你提出的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
8464.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
8468.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
法院組織法第95條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
8468.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
8470.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
要構成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
8470.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
8473.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
這個犯罪行責伺候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
8473.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
8475.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
他的構成要件是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
8475.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
8476.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
8476.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
8478.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
第一個那個吳宗憲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
8478.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
8480.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
他的草案裡面就有這一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
8480.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
8481.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
我管他吳宗憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
8481.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
8482.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
我再問你啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
8482.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
8484.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
你直接回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
8484.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
8486.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
法院組織法第95條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
8486.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
8491.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
現在的構成要件的行為是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
8491.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
8492.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
現行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
8492.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
8493.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
8493.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
8496.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
現行是自妨害法院執行職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
8496.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
8498.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
經制止不聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
8498.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
8499.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
8499.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
8501.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
經制止不聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
8501.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
8502.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
妨害職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
8502.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
8505.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
我們都講罪行法定主義啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
8505.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
8508.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
妨害職務的範圍可就廣啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
8508.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
8510.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
但經制止不聽的要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
8510.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
8514.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
我個人相當不同意現行的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
8514.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
8516.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
這個白話文就講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
8516.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
8519.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
你在這裡吵啦鬧啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
8519.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
8522.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
然後法官兩次叫你不要亂了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
8522.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
8525.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
你還在這裡大聲繼續講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
8525.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
8526.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
你就有罪了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
8526.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
8528.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
刑責事後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
8528.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
8529.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
大聲講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
8529.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
8531.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
好像日本人裡面說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
8531.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
8533.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
朱學公請大家保持安靜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
8533.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
8536.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
大家繼續不安靜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
8536.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
8537.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
8537.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
8538.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
抓去關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
8538.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
8539.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
馬上就起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
8539.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
8541.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
如果是這樣子可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
8541.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
8544.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
所以就是因為基於現行法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
8544.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
8546.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
這樣的規定對於法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
8546.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
8549.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
他在這個維持法庭秩序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
8549.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
8551.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
老實說如委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
8551.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
8552.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
會有很多考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
8552.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
8554.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
要馬上進行責 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
8554.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
8556.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
所以我們才希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
8556.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
8558.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
就如同吳宗憲委員所提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
8558.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
8560.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
先讓他用行政法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
8561.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
8562.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
就是這個目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
8562.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
8563.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
8563.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
8565.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
你們現在你的所主張的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
8565.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
8567.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
你要現行的法律就是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
8567.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
8568.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
直接刑責事後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
8568.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
8569.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
你現在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
8569.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
8572.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
好我現在先給你行政法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
8572.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
8575.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
你還是不聽第二次再犯的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
8575.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
8577.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
我就給你刑法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
8577.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
8581.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
那現在你把禁制止不聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
8581.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
8583.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
直接就拿掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
8583.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
8585.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
你們號稱說要先行政法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
8585.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
8586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
可是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
8586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
8588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
他現在是禁制止不聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
8588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
8589.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
直接拿掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
8589.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
8592.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
只要我認定你妨礙這個職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
8592.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
8593.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
你直接就處罰了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
8593.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
8594.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
罰錢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
8595.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
8596.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
直接喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
8596.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
8598.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
沒有制止不聽喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
8598.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
8599.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
然後第二次再犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
8599.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
8601.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
直接就刑責事後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
8601.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
8605.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
你說這是先行政後刑法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
8605.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
8606.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
不是咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
8606.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
8609.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
你連制止不聽這個要件都拿掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
8610.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
8612.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
所以我舉一個例子好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
8612.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
8614.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
如果法庭開庭的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
8614.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
8615.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
法官說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
8615.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
8618.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
你們雙方不要在那裡爭執了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
8618.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
8621.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
等到辯論的時候再說好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
8621.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
8623.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
結果當事人大家很容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
8623.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
8625.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
雙方繼續爭執 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
8625.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
8627.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
這樣子是不是就構成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
8627.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
8629.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
維持法庭秩序之命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
8629.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
8631.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
制妨礙法院執行職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
8631.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
8634.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
也不需要禁制止不聽了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
8634.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
8635.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
直接就罰錢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].start |
8635.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].end |
8636.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].text |
第二次再不聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
8636.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].end |
8639.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].text |
然後就直接抓去關了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].start |
8639.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
8641.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
所以在法庭裡面是不是只能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
8641.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
8642.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
唯唯諾諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
8642.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
8644.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
生怕多講幾句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
8644.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
8647.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
就被認為是妨礙執行職務了呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
8647.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
8648.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
8648.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].end |
8651.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
當一位法官他會要講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
8651.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
8652.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
你要維持法庭秩序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
8652.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].end |
8654.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].text |
如同委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
8654.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].end |
8656.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
一定雙方爭執很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
8656.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
8658.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
法官為了維持法庭秩序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
8658.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
8659.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
一定會跟他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
8659.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
8661.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
好大家照順序說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
8661.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
8663.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
其實他的命令就是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
8665.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
8667.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
你講得太簡單了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
8671.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
8673.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
你講得好像是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
8673.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
8676.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
必須要好像很喧鬧什麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
8676.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].end |
8678.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
我舉三個例子給你聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
8678.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
8680.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
我講三個實例給你聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
8680.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
8681.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
你來聽聽看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
8683.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
8684.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
抱歉老闆主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
8684.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
8685.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
那個等我一下下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
8693.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
8694.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
8695.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
8696.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
8698.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
8702.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
被告在檢察官對於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
8702.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
8704.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
證人進行反結問時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
8704.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
8706.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
抱歉我這樣講好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
8706.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
8707.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
這樣字太小了這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
8711.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
8714.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
我們去搜尋過很多的這個判例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
8714.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
8716.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
曾經有一個就是被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
8716.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
8718.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
打斷證人發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
8718.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
8721.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
然後就被法院用這一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
8721.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
8723.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
判拘役二十天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
8725.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
8727.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
如果這個放在立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
8727.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
8729.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
官員被尋的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
8729.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
8730.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
立委在講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
8730.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
8732.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
官員打斷立委的提問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
8732.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
8733.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
官員就要被判刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
8733.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
8734.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
你覺得如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
8734.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
8737.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
就是說證人在發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
8737.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
8739.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
然後他被告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
8739.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
8740.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
你這樣講講的錯誤啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
8740.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
8742.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
因為我不是那樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
8742.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
8745.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
這樣就被起訴了判二十天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
8745.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
8746.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
然後過去來發生過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
8746.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
8749.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
被告在法庭上大聲發言幾次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
8749.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
8751.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
然後法院就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
8751.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
8753.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
你這樣子起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
8755.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
8757.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
放在立法院的話就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
8757.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
8759.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
官員大聲的回答立委的提問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
8759.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
8760.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
就要被判刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
8760.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
8762.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
他是判拘役三十天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
8762.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
8764.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
這個都有判例的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
8764.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
8766.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
那你覺得怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
8766.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
8768.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
一個是地方法院96年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
8768.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
8770.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
檢上至第396號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
8770.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
8772.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
一個是96年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
8772.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
8774.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
役至第2310號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
8774.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
8775.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
過去還曾經發生這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
8775.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
8777.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
在刑事庭開庭的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
8777.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
8780.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
跟公訴檢察官相悶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
8780.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
8783.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
一個檢察官你陳述的內容不實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
8783.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
8784.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
你再這樣不實的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
8784.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
8786.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
我要告你告你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
8787.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
8789.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
然後你講的不對我要告你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
8789.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
8790.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
然後就這樣講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
8790.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
8792.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
然後就被起訴了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
8792.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
8793.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
然後就被起訴了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
8793.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
8796.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
然後呢最後判決無罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
8797.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
8798.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
8798.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
8800.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
我們對委員現在講的實例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
8800.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
8801.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
一下子我也沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
8801.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
8803.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
這個很巨人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
8803.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
8804.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
我知道啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
8804.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
8805.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
可是我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
8805.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
8808.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
我相信在整個法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
8808.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
8809.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
他要起訴這時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
8809.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
8811.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
絕對在現場的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
8811.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
8812.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
一定跟他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
8812.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
8813.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
你不要再說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
8813.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
8814.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
太吵了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
8814.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
8816.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
有限刑的法律叫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
8816.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
8817.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
禁制止不聽啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
8817.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
8820.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
但未來是連禁制止不聽都不需要啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
8820.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
8821.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
8821.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
8823.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
其實禁制止不聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
8823.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
8826.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
一定就是在他在發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
8826.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
8829.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
這個這個違庭法庭秩序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
8829.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
8831.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
法官你講你不要說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
8831.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
8832.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
你不要說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
8832.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
8833.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
沒有影了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
8833.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
8835.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
也沒一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
8835.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
8836.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
你不要說你不要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
8836.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
8838.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
就要抓去公安嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
8838.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
8840.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
你不要說了你不要說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
8840.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
8842.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
結果繼續說就要抓去公安嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
8842.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
8843.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
拜託報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
8843.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
8844.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
我老實說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
8844.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
8846.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
只要說你不要再說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
8846.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
8847.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
你不要再說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
8847.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
8852.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].text |
你的法院組織法第88條89條91條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
8852.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
8854.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
你們還有其他手段案方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
8854.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
8855.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].text |
可以掛出去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].start |
8855.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].end |
8856.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].text |
可以掛出去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].start |
8856.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].end |
8857.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].start |
8857.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].end |
8858.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].text |
因為他如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].start |
8858.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].end |
8860.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].text |
可以掛出去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].start |
8860.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].end |
8861.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].text |
趕出去以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].start |
8861.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].end |
8863.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].text |
你不是沒有手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].start |
8863.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].end |
8865.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].text |
刑責作為最後手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].start |
8865.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].end |
8867.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].text |
這個是最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].start |
8867.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
8868.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].text |
只要你不要再說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].start |
8868.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].end |
8869.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].text |
就抓去公安 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].start |
8869.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].end |
8871.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].text |
就判刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
8871.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].end |
8872.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].text |
這樣對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].start |
8872.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].end |
8873.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].text |
我相信個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].start |
8873.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].end |
8874.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].text |
你相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].start |
8874.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
8875.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
那我就跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].start |
8875.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
8876.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
來來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
8876.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
8877.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
我把插回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
8877.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
8879.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
我再來跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].start |
8879.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
8880.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
8882.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
8884.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
8884.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
8887.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
司法院改成先行政後刑責 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
8887.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
8889.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
然後把門檻降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].start |
8889.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
8891.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
把處罰的門檻降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].start |
8891.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].end |
8892.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].text |
動輒得救 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].start |
8892.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].end |
8893.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].text |
罰錢抓去關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].start |
8896.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].end |
8898.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].text |
為什麼你們要這樣子呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].start |
8899.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].end |
8900.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].start |
8900.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].end |
8903.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].text |
如果當事人構成侮辱公務員罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].start |
8903.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].end |
8905.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
侮辱公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].start |
8905.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].end |
8908.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].text |
刑法140條可以處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].start |
8908.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].end |
8910.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].text |
你們大法官憲判 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].start |
8910.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].end |
8913.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
113年憲判自第5號處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].start |
8913.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].end |
8916.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].text |
如果他的行為不是侮辱公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].start |
8916.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].end |
8919.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].text |
只是講話大聲干擾秩序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].start |
8919.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].end |
8921.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].text |
你就要抓去關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].start |
8921.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].end |
8922.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].text |
沒合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].start |
8922.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].end |
8925.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].text |
你們憲判大法官的憲判 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].start |
8925.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].end |
8928.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].text |
限縮了侮辱公務員罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].start |
8928.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].end |
8932.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].text |
要求一般公務人員要忍受侮辱行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].start |
8932.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].end |
8935.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].text |
結果你們的司法院今天修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].start |
8935.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].end |
8936.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].text |
卻毒後法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].start |
8936.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].end |
8940.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].text |
要求大家都不能違反法官在法庭上的命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].start |
8940.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].end |
8943.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].text |
否則不是罰錢就是判刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].start |
8943.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].end |
8946.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
你們這種法官高高在上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
8946.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].end |
8948.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].text |
只許你們州官放火 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].start |
8948.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].end |
8950.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
法官不能夠被侮辱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
8950.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].end |
8953.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
但是一般公務員要被侮辱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].start |
8953.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].end |
8956.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
限縮了一般公務員的侮辱公務員罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].start |
8956.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].end |
8958.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
結果你降低了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].start |
8958.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
8961.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
在法院裡面不聽法官制止的門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
8961.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].end |
8964.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
所以人家說建官愛三節 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].start |
8964.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
8967.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
你們法院認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
8967.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
8970.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
司法院認為說你們來的都愛我三節 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].start |
8970.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].end |
8972.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
都要聽我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
8973.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].end |
8975.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
你們這種高高在上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].start |
8975.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].end |
8978.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
只能夠大家比你們位置還要低 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
8978.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
8981.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
都要聽你的這種的態度才有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
8981.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
8984.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
所以95條的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
8984.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
8987.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
不是降低處罰的門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
8987.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].end |
8989.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
動輒就罰錢抓去關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
8989.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
8991.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
而是應該要刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].start |
8991.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].end |
8993.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
要刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
8993.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
8994.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
我問你喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
8994.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].end |
8996.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
這個同樣的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
8996.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
8998.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
在檢察官偵查庭的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].start |
8998.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
9000.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
不會發生同樣的困擾嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
9001.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].end |
9001.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
蛤 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
9003.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].end |
9006.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
香港的情形如果發生在其他行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].start |
9006.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
9007.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].start |
9008.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
9010.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
你們就動輒把人家抓去關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].start |
9010.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].end |
9011.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
罰錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].start |
9011.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
9012.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
9012.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
9014.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
偵查庭不會嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
9015.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
9018.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
干擾辦公干擾公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
9018.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
9022.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
辦公的罪責不是應該相當一次嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
9022.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
9024.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].text |
憑什麼司法院就要高人一等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
9024.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
9026.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
民眾在檢察庭開庭的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
9026.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
9028.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
不會發生一樣的情形嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].start |
9029.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].end |
9030.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
檢察官的問醫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].start |
9030.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
9031.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].text |
要就旁邊說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].start |
9031.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
9033.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].text |
不是這樣就要插話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
9033.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
9034.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
不會嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
9034.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].end |
9035.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].text |
會啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].start |
9035.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
9036.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].text |
不會大聲嚷嚷嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].start |
9036.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
9037.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
會啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].start |
9038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].end |
9041.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].text |
檢察官開偵查庭也可以發生同樣的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].start |
9041.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].end |
9044.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].text |
但數十年來地檢署從來沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].start |
9044.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].end |
9047.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].text |
適用過法院組織法第95條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].start |
9048.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].end |
9051.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].text |
滋擾妨礙秩序執行職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].start |
9051.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].end |
9054.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].text |
檢察官開偵查庭一樣會碰到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].start |
9054.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].end |
9057.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].text |
為什麼他們可以繼續執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].start |
9057.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].end |
9060.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].text |
為什麼可以繼續辦公可以偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].start |
9060.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].end |
9061.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].text |
你們就不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].start |
9062.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].end |
9064.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].text |
你們就偏偏要高人一等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].start |
9065.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].end |
9068.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].text |
為什麼你們需要使用封建社會那種 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].start |
9068.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].end |
9071.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].text |
高高在上唯我獨尊權力獨大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].start |
9071.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].end |
9075.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].text |
見官矮三截的這一種法條還存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].start |
9076.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].end |
9079.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].text |
社會秩序維護法有沒有東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].start |
9079.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].end |
9081.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].text |
有沒有工具可以使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].start |
9081.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].end |
9084.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].text |
好有沒有社會秩序維護法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].start |
9084.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].end |
9087.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].text |
來社會秩序維護法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].start |
9087.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].end |
9089.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].text |
在公共場所口角紛爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].start |
9089.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].end |
9094.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].text |
宣法知識不聽勸職者罰六千 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].start |
9094.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].end |
9097.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].text |
社會秩序維護法第85條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].start |
9097.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].end |
9099.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].text |
公務員依法執行職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].start |
9099.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].end |
9101.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].text |
以顯然不相當的言詞或行動相加 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].start |
9101.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].end |
9104.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].text |
善未達強暴脅迫侮辱的程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].start |
9104.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].end |
9107.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].text |
但是在公務員依法執行職務時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].start |
9107.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].end |
9110.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].text |
具重宣法自妨害公務者罰一萬兩千二 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].start |
9110.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].end |
9113.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].text |
都不需要你在法院組織法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].start |
9113.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].end |
9115.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].text |
架構這個法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].start |
9115.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].end |
9118.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].text |
你們的法院組織法888991 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].start |
9118.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].end |
9121.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].text |
審判長可以命他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].start |
9121.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].end |
9124.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].text |
抓出去退出去不准他進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].start |
9124.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].end |
9126.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].text |
通通都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].start |
9126.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].end |
9127.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].text |
可以叫法警把他抓出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].start |
9128.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].end |
9130.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].text |
你還需要多嚴苛的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].start |
9130.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].end |
9133.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].text |
所以在這裡我們再問你第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].start |
9135.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].end |
9136.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].start |
9137.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].end |
9138.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].start |
9139.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].end |
9141.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].text |
法院組織法有工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].start |
9141.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].end |
9143.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].text |
然後大家都可以處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].start |
9143.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].end |
9148.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].text |
社會秩序維護法也有可以處理的相當的條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].start |
9148.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].end |
9151.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].text |
你們偵查庭也遇到一樣的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].start |
9151.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].end |
9155.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].text |
同樣的公務員都可以解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].start |
9155.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].end |
9156.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].text |
都可以處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].start |
9156.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].end |
9158.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].text |
你們為什麼就不行呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].start |
9158.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].end |
9160.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].text |
所以如果在這種狀況的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].start |
9160.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].end |
9163.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].text |
我們認為不要一天到晚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].start |
9163.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].end |
9165.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].text |
修法來修理人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].start |
9167.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].end |
9169.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].text |
好我想最後是不是可以請秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].start |
9169.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].end |
9170.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].text |
不是間短回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].start |
9170.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].end |
9173.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].text |
因為今天時間已經超過太多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].start |
9173.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].end |
9175.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].text |
還有最後一個我再講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].start |
9176.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].end |
9178.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].text |
司法院我們最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].start |
9178.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].end |
9180.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].text |
包括行政院包括立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].start |
9180.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].end |
9182.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].text |
大家相當高度關注的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].start |
9182.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].end |
9183.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].text |
獨價的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].start |
9183.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].end |
9185.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].text |
刑法185條之三的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].start |
9185.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].end |
9190.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].text |
這個是行政院跟司法院要兩院會選的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].start |
9190.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].end |
9191.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].start |
9192.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].end |
9194.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].text |
我有內部的消息說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].start |
9194.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].end |
9195.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].text |
關於獨價的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].start |
9195.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].end |
9199.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].text |
你們利用行政院需要跟司法院會選 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].start |
9199.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].end |
9202.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].text |
司法院要求行政院必須另外同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].start |
9202.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].end |
9207.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].text |
司法院提出來的刑事訴訟法的修法草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].start |
9207.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].end |
9211.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].text |
這個草案就是擴大檢視審判範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].start |
9211.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].end |
9214.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].text |
還說修法要判 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].start |
9214.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].end |
9218.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].text |
要說判兩年有期徒刑以下的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].start |
9218.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].end |
9221.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].text |
法官可以不用寫判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].start |
9221.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].end |
9224.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].text |
直接用宣誓筆錄代替判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].start |
9224.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].end |
9225.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].text |
有沒有這一回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].start |
9225.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].end |
9229.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].text |
我們絕對沒有這樣對行政院說這種話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].start |
9229.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].end |
9231.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].text |
這是內部消息傳出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].start |
9231.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].end |
9234.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].text |
但被行政院拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].start |
9234.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].end |
9237.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].text |
現在你們未來會不會提出這個修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].start |
9237.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].end |
9239.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].text |
當然要提出這個修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].start |
9239.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].end |
9243.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].text |
你要提出修法說兩年有期徒刑以下的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].start |
9243.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].end |
9245.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].text |
法官不用寫判決書 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].start |
9245.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].end |
9247.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].text |
直接用宣誓筆錄代替判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].start |
9247.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].end |
9249.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].text |
未來判決兩年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].start |
9249.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].end |
9251.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].text |
只要寫毛毛毛你被判刑兩年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].start |
9251.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].end |
9254.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].text |
什麼理由什麼原因不用寫是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].start |
9254.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].end |
9256.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].text |
裡面有其他要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].start |
9256.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].end |
9258.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].text |
不是如委員說的這麼簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].start |
9258.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].end |
9260.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].text |
最好是如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].start |
9260.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].end |
9264.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].text |
刑法第185條之三的獨家的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].start |
9264.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].end |
9267.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].text |
是攸關全國用路人的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].start |
9267.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].end |
9269.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].text |
避免無辜的民眾的這個喪命 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].start |
9269.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].end |
9271.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].text |
是要嚴懲獨家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].start |
9271.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].end |
9275.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].text |
絕對司法院怎麼可以拿全民的事情去當籌碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].start |
9275.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].end |
9278.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].text |
要求行政院支持你們的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].start |
9278.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].end |
9282.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].text |
然後去交換讓法官不用寫判決的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].start |
9282.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].end |
9284.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].text |
我覺得那根本就是來侮辱我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].start |
9284.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].end |
9287.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].text |
司法改革要越改越好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].start |
9287.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].end |
9292.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].text |
不是在這裡改到法官不用寫判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].start |
9292.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].end |
9295.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].text |
你要改這樣乾脆不用兩年以下全部都不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].start |
9295.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].end |
9299.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].text |
你們曾經提過要用AI寫判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].start |
9299.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].end |
9301.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].text |
沒有那是古時候一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].start |
9301.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].end |
9302.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].text |
什麼古時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].start |
9302.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].end |
9304.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].text |
Ai不可能寫判決的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].start |
9304.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].end |
9308.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].text |
你們曾經要提這個預算案被我砍掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].start |
9308.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].end |
9309.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].text |
怎麼會沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].start |
9309.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].end |
9314.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].text |
如果這樣子行政機關做成行政處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].start |
9314.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].end |
9315.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].text |
可不可以不要寫理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].start |
9315.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].end |
9317.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].text |
等到你人民要訴願的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].start |
9317.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].end |
9318.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].text |
我再寫理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].start |
9318.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].end |
9319.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].start |
9319.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].end |
9321.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].text |
你沒有給我判決的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].start |
9321.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].end |
9324.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].text |
我怎麼會知道要不要上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].start |
9324.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].end |
9325.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].text |
都一定有其他的要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].start |
9325.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].end |
9328.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].text |
不是如同委員所說的這麼這麼簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].start |
9328.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].end |
9331.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].text |
什麼要件現在只是你的口頭上的講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].start |
9331.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].end |
9335.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].text |
總的言之你們就是希望兩年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].start |
9335.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].end |
9337.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].text |
法官不用寫判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].start |
9337.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].end |
9340.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].text |
你們還要修法你在這裡承認你要修這個法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].start |
9340.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].end |
9344.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].text |
你們在上次AI寫判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].start |
9344.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].end |
9347.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].text |
因為你們根本沒有能力訓練AI |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].start |
9347.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].end |
9352.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].text |
然後你們只想讓法官享受判決人家生死的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].start |
9352.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].end |
9353.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].text |
兩年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].start |
9353.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].end |
9355.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].text |
為什麼兩年以下不用寫判決理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].start |
9355.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].end |
9356.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].text |
有太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].start |
9356.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].end |
9360.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].text |
然後你們為什麼寫判決理由是法官應該付起 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].start |
9360.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].end |
9361.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].text |
跟人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].start |
9363.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].end |
9365.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].text |
說理的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].start |
9365.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].end |
9368.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
你擁有判決的判刑的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].start |
9368.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].end |
9372.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].text |
但你要告訴人家為什麼被判的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].start |
9372.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].end |
9374.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].text |
這個才是正當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].start |
9374.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].end |
9376.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].text |
先不寫並沒有說都不寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].start |
9376.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].end |
9378.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].text |
先不寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].start |
9378.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].end |
9380.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].text |
兩年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].start |
9380.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].end |
9384.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].text |
你被冤枉的人要知道自己被冤枉在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].start |
9384.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].end |
9388.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].text |
你們覺得兩年以下很輕的寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].start |
9388.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].end |
9390.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].text |
事實上不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].start |
9391.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].end |
9393.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].text |
對當事人而言都不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].start |
9393.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].end |
9395.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].text |
討論這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].start |
9395.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].end |
9397.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].text |
因為讀違法的剛剛那個條文我們已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].start |
9397.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].end |
9398.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].text |
他們很過分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].start |
9398.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].end |
9402.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].text |
他拿這個去請行政院要跟他們說你要起死 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].start |
9402.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].end |
9404.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].text |
被行政院拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].start |
9404.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].end |
9407.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].text |
被行政院拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].start |
9407.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].end |
9410.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].text |
現在行政院他很多法案都不送了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].start |
9410.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].end |
9413.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].text |
現在司法院說他要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].start |
9413.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].end |
9417.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].text |
他要送兩年判刑都不用寫判決理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].start |
9417.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].end |
9419.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].text |
你們去看全國的人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].start |
9419.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].end |
9423.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].text |
可以接受判決判刑兩年以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].start |
9423.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].end |
9425.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].text |
都不用寫判決理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].start |
9425.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].end |
9428.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].text |
我們之後我們再來討論這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].start |
9428.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].end |
9430.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].text |
因為這是今天完全不同的題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].start |
9430.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].end |
9434.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].text |
到時候端出來看就知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].start |
9434.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].end |
9437.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].text |
端出來看就知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].start |
9437.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].end |
9439.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].text |
為什麼行政院不支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].start |
9439.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].end |
9443.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].text |
因為太違反社會人民能夠接受的觀感了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].start |
9443.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].end |
9446.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].text |
好謝謝林委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].start |
9446.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].end |
9448.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].text |
好謝謝秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].start |
9448.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].end |
9450.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].text |
我們就下一次再討論這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].start |
9450.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].end |
9453.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].text |
好那接下來我們就有請范雲委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].start |
9455.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].end |
9457.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].text |
對不起還有陳冠廷委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].start |
9457.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].end |
9458.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].text |
陳冠廷委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].start |
9458.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].end |
9459.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].text |
接下來有請范雲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].start |
9468.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].end |
9473.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].text |
主席剛剛除分委員講的議題非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].start |
9473.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].end |
9477.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].text |
但是就是說我是不是也可以比照講久一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].start |
9478.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].end |
9483.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].text |
我想這個發言委員是我們本委員會的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].start |
9483.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].end |
9486.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].text |
所以本委員對委員應該通常時間更長吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].start |
9486.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].end |
9487.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].text |
對是的沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].start |
9487.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].end |
9489.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].text |
所以就十分鐘之後可以再延長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].start |
9489.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].end |
9494.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].text |
那我是對林淑芬委員有特別的給她特別的優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].start |
9494.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].end |
9497.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].text |
就是比照我們本委員會的發言時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].start |
9497.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].end |
9501.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].text |
但還是她今天也發言時間也真的超出太久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].start |
9501.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].end |
9502.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].text |
了解了解好麻煩她 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].start |
9502.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].end |
9503.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].start |
9503.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].end |
9506.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].text |
好我想我有請高秘書長 |
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有請高秘書長 |
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高秘書長好我想您對那個CRPT國內法劃 |
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已經滿12年這一塊您了不了解呢 |
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關心這一部分我 |
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因為我真的沒有從事少嘉 |
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我請我們少嘉廳來跟你做詳細的說明 |
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這個應該不是只是少嘉廳吧 |
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對還包括我們行政廳都有 |
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都有所以那個秘書長不是很了解 |
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好那沒關係那我就稍微解釋一下好不好 |
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就是CRPT裡面 |
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就CRPT當然是這在我們馬總統任內就簽署的 |
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那當時國會就是民進黨是少數 |
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那當然也全力支持 |
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所以當時的國會是不分黨派 |
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就把這個CRPD就國內法劃 |
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那裡面有提到合理調整 |
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合理調整是什麼意思 |
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它是身心障礙者 |
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非常重要的一個人權的一部分 |
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它指的是根據具體需要 |
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與不造成過度或不當負擔之情況下 |
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進行必要及適當之修改與調整 |
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以確保身心障礙者在與其他人平等基礎上 |
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享有或行使所有人權及基本自由 |
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也就是說它是搭配我們一般的無障礙 |
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因為無障礙是通案 |
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那可是有些地方可能還是會有障礙 |
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那你針對個案可以及時的處理 |
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所以它是一個非常重要的權利 |
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譬如好像是職場上 |
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那你如果有合理調整的話 |
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其實身心障礙者他可以適應的工作範圍是非常廣的 |
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那如果高秘書長了解這點的話 |
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我就要提到 |
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為什麼我想要問的是您 |
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而不是只有那個邵家廳 |
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主要就是現在職場上的合理調整的爭議 |
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已經成為司法的新興議題了 |
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那我辦公室找了兩個新聞 |
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一個是今年的一個是去年的 |
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一個是台鐵 |
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台鐵為合理調整之前身障員工 |
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後來這個員工就去告了 |
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那法院判僱傭關係存在 |
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那應該如果沒有理解錯誤的話就是台鐵輸了 |
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那這邊呢 |
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是竹科經理罹患漸凍症 |
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遭解僱提告 |
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法官說無法說 |
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法官就是判這個身障者他是敗訴 |
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那我們知道 |
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其實以我們大家都認識的俊翰律師 |
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他之前是民進黨的不分區候選人 |
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那他其實是可以執行工作的 |
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只要他的器材跟各方面的協助是足夠的話 |
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那所以不代表就是所有的這些都無法提供勞務 |
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可是我們看到在司法上 |
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其實告到司法的時候 |
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結果經常是不一樣的 |
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那當然您可能會說這兩個個案情況不一樣 |
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我們現在不能這樣比較 |
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那的是我要提的事情是 |
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這個真的跟司法有很大的關係了 |
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因為目前我們看一下 |
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如果雇主沒有提供障礙勞工合理調整的話 |
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法律的就計方式就是這樣 |
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依照就業歧視就業服務法第五條 |
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那不能夠對身心障礙等身分予以歧視 |
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所以他可以第一關 |
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到地方主管機關提出就業歧視申訴 |
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譬如說到勞工局等等 |
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那然後地方勞工行政主管機關 |
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有個就業歧視評議委員會 |
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他審議後會做成決議 |
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那有些在這一關就解決了對不對 |
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可是如果在這一關沒有辦法解決的話 |
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事實上不符決議的時候 |
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不管是老闆或者是員工 |
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都可以再提出訴願 |
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那再來我想您就非常熟悉了 |
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行政訴訟這一塊就出現了 |
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所以司法等於是障礙者工作權的最後一道防線 |
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秘書長對這個流程應該沒有任何疑義吧 |
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沒有這個除了行政訴訟也會有民事訴訟 |
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對所以它會是重要的司法議題這個您認同吧 |
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好那所以我現在就想問的是 |
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請問目前雇主為障礙勞工提供合理調整的這個義務的爭議 |
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您認為司法裁判的實務上是不是已經準備好了 |
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是不是已經穩定跟成熟了嗎 |
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跟委員報告 |
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雖然CRPD我不是很熟 |
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可是我在辦訴訟案件裡面也很多這種案件 |
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其實法官最困難的是要認定 |
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提供合理調整的義務 |
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這個委員指導的這個 |
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其實這個一直在發展中 |
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而不是說這個議題在發展中 |
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而是說法官的對於所謂合理調整義務的範圍 |
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這種認定真的會影響到這個裁判的勝訴 |
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那這個我不敢說已經成熟穩定 |
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我們是一直在提醒我們勞動法庭還有行政訴訟這個區塊 |
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法官一定要放下我們這些人跟我們不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
9835.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
9843.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
這種想法去增進自己對於所謂提供合理調整義務的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
9844.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
9846.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
範圍要放快 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
9846.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
9850.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
謝謝高秘書長您講得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
9850.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
9856.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
您認為現在的爭議是在於合理調整的內容是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].start |
9856.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
9858.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
但是大家都已經知道這個是義務了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].start |
9858.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
9863.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
所以現在的爭議是在這個合理調整是義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
9863.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].end |
9868.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
可是怎麼樣的做法可以被當成是他做了這個義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
9868.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
9870.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
是不是這是您的認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
9870.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
9873.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
好那我要告訴高秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
9873.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
9876.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
貴司法體系目前並不是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].start |
9876.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
9879.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
你看我們這個辦公室做的研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
9879.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
9884.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
2020年你們的高雄高等行政法院的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].start |
9884.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
9886.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
他不認為合理調整是義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
9886.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
9889.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
他覺得那個是優惠性措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
9889.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
9891.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
他承認有CRPD |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
9891.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
9896.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
但不認為能夠指導雇主有合理調整義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
9896.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
9898.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
所以他完全不理這個法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
9898.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
9901.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
他只用勞動基準法就業服務法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
9901.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
9905.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
這個不是專為就是伸帳者制定的法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
9905.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
9907.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
那可是很有趣了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
9907.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
9911.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
過了一年最高行政法院的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
9911.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
9912.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
又不一樣了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].start |
9912.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
9914.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
就說這個不是什麼優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
9914.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
9915.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
這不是額外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
9915.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
9919.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
他是實踐平等的積極義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
9919.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
9923.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
而且他強調CRPD已經國內法化了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
9923.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
9927.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
各機關都應該要符合公約的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
9927.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
9930.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
還引用了CRPD第二條第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
9930.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
9933.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
特別援引CRPD第六號一般性意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
9933.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
9935.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
所以兩次判決不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
9935.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
9939.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
請問一下高雄高等行政法院的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].start |
9939.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
9943.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
為什麼可以跟2021年最高行政法院判決不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
9943.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
9946.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
這不是秘書長講的那個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
9946.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
9948.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
最高行政法院是2021年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
9948.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
9952.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
所以最高行政法院他就指示出要這樣去思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
9952.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
9953.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
那不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
9953.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
9955.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
那我今天我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
9955.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
9959.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
那我今天如果是到高雄高等行政法院判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
9959.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
9960.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
那我不是就比較倒楣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
9960.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
9961.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
我還得要繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
9961.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
9962.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
9962.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
9963.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
其實我們事實上的法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
9963.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
9965.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
為什麼不能在那裡就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].start |
9965.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
9968.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
就如同您剛所講就認定他是義務了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
9968.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
9969.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
9969.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
9972.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
所以最高行政法院他已經指出了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
9972.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
9976.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
這應該是我認為他這應該是一個法律見解了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
9976.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
9980.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
這個法律見解在四十層法院都會去重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
9980.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
9982.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
那個三省的法律見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
9982.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
9985.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
2020所以2021就有這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
9985.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
9987.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
已經在改變中了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
9987.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
9988.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
9988.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
9992.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
我們簽署這個CRPD是哪一年您知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
9995.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
9996.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
2014是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
9996.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
9998.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
對2014年就國內法化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
9998.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
9999.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
9999.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
10000.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
10000.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
10002.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
2020年這個已經過了六年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
10002.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
10004.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
那這個真的是有個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
10004.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
10006.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
原本是一個市帳者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
10006.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
10010.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
平常以行走的方式進行開單的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
10010.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
10012.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
後來他小腿受傷 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].start |
10012.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
10014.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
他本來是市帳是可以開單 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
10014.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
10015.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
小腿受傷 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
10015.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
10018.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
他希望轉調內勤服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
10018.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
10021.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
結果高等行政法院這個高雄的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
10021.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
10024.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
認定交通局沒有違反合理調整義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
10024.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
10026.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
沒有構成歧視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
10026.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
10028.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
那他後來就很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
10028.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
10030.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
還要上訴到最高行政法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
10030.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
10034.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
結果法院就認定原審沒有仔細檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
10034.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
10037.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
交通局是否已經盡合理調整的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].start |
10037.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
10040.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].text |
才把原判決廢棄發回 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
10040.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].end |
10042.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].text |
那我要講的事情是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].start |
10042.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].end |
10044.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].text |
為什麼他要這麼的辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].start |
10044.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].end |
10046.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].text |
到如果他在高雄這一端 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].start |
10046.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].end |
10047.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].text |
高等行政法院判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].start |
10047.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].end |
10049.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].text |
2020年他就放棄了呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].start |
10050.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].end |
10051.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].text |
當然我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].start |
10051.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].end |
10052.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].text |
我個人也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].start |
10052.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].end |
10054.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].text |
高雄高等行政法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].start |
10054.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].end |
10056.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].text |
為什麼沒有採最高行政法院的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].start |
10056.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].end |
10059.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].text |
最高行政法院他就指證了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].start |
10059.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].end |
10062.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
你將來關於這類案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].start |
10062.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].end |
10063.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].text |
你的思考方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].start |
10063.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].end |
10065.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].text |
你的法律見解方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
10065.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].end |
10068.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].text |
我相信已經指出一個非常清楚的道路了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
10069.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].end |
10071.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].text |
對 所以您剛所講的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].start |
10071.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].end |
10074.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].text |
大家都認知到這是義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].start |
10074.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].end |
10077.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].text |
只是對於合理調整的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
10077.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].end |
10079.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].text |
有不同的見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
10079.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].end |
10081.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].text |
這件事情沒有發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
10081.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].end |
10083.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
就拿我剛講2020 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].start |
10083.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].end |
10086.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
已經是高雄高等行政法院的判決了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
10086.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].end |
10088.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
我跟委員報告說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
10089.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
10092.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].text |
不是說判決所有判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
10092.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].end |
10094.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
都如同我的見解一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
10094.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
10096.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].text |
沒錯 所以我才說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
10096.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].end |
10098.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
這不是你的見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
10098.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
10102.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
這是CRPT是有國內法化的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
10102.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
10103.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
明文規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
10103.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
10104.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].text |
所以跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
10104.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].end |
10106.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].text |
他無視於有這個法律的存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
10106.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].end |
10107.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
對 沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
10107.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].end |
10109.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
他引用的是其他的法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
10109.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].end |
10110.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
我不敢講 他無視了 |
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10110.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].end |
10112.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
他可能沒有注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
10112.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].end |
10114.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].text |
這個因為個案我真的很難解釋 |
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10114.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].end |
10115.64 |
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沒有讀過 |
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10115.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].end |
10117.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].text |
我不敢講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
10117.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].end |
10118.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
只是最少 |
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10120.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].end |
10122.53 |
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關於CRPT我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
10122.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].end |
10125.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
司法院非常重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
10125.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
10126.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].text |
真的非常重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
10126.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].end |
10127.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
10128.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].end |
10130.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
您說非常重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
10130.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].end |
10132.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
我有一點點懷疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
10132.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].end |
10134.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].text |
為什麼 因為您自己都不熟悉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
10134.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].end |
10136.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].text |
沒有 跟委員 |
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10136.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
10138.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
你剛剛不是說你不熟悉 |
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10138.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
10139.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
要那個少嘉聽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
10139.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
10142.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
我不能夠很自誇說我熟悉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
10142.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
10144.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
CRPD其實是落實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
10145.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
10146.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
我們的判決裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
10146.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
10148.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
尤其我們最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
10148.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].end |
10150.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].text |
委員應該看到新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
10150.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
10153.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
我們關於這些朋友們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
10153.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
10155.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].text |
能夠禁用法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
10155.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].end |
10156.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].text |
這個司法禁用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
10156.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].end |
10157.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].text |
我們一直在強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
10157.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
10160.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].text |
其實我覺得這個重點是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
10160.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
10161.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
我要放在心裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
10161.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
10163.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
我要放在我的sense裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
10163.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
10166.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
我要放在一切我的作為裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
10166.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
10168.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
我講的是這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
10168.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
10171.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
好 那我今天想問的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
10171.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
10173.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
那您作為秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
10173.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
10176.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
您覺得我們如何避免再發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
10176.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
10178.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
像高雄高等行政法院這樣判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
10178.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
10180.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
根本無視於CRPD這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
10180.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
10181.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
國內法的存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
10181.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
10184.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
把合理調整不當成是義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
10184.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
10187.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
他覺得這只是個優惠的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
10187.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
10188.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
10188.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
10190.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
如何可以做到不要再發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
10190.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
10192.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
讓障礙者很辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
10192.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
10193.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
還要再往上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
10193.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
10196.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
再到最高行政法院才能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
10196.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
10197.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].text |
這個除了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
10197.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
10199.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].text |
當然法官一定要接受教育訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
10199.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].end |
10200.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
10200.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
10201.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].text |
法官應該接受教育訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
10201.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
10202.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].text |
一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
10202.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].end |
10204.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
那目前的教育訓練中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
10204.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
10205.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
有這個CRPD國內法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
10205.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
10206.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
10206.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].end |
10208.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].text |
請問是幾小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].start |
10208.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].end |
10209.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
這個一下問我 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
10209.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
10210.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
是一輩子講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
10210.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].end |
10213.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].text |
就是一次還是說一年有幾小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
10213.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
10215.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
最少法官我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
10215.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
10219.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
規定是上課是40小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
10219.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
10222.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
40小時中是多久上一次課法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
10222.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
10223.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].text |
整年呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
10223.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
10224.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].text |
整年你全部要上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
10224.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
10227.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].text |
每個法官整年都要上40小時課 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
10227.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].end |
10231.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].text |
那裡面CRPD的國內法幾小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
10231.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].end |
10232.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].text |
送給委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].start |
10232.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].end |
10234.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].text |
現在沒有人知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
10234.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].end |
10236.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].text |
那個CRPD國內法幾小時嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
10236.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].end |
10239.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].text |
CRPD負責的是我們行政廳 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
10239.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
10241.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].text |
他們今天剛好沒有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
10241.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].end |
10242.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].text |
剛好沒有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].start |
10242.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].end |
10243.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].text |
可是我這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].start |
10243.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].end |
10244.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].text |
我可以看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].start |
10244.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].end |
10246.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].text |
您確定目前有上CRPD國內法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
10246.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].end |
10247.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].start |
10247.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].end |
10248.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].text |
只是幾小時不了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
10248.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].end |
10251.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].text |
對真的一下問我真的不了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].start |
10251.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].end |
10252.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].text |
好沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].start |
10252.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].end |
10253.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].text |
那我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].start |
10253.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].end |
10254.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].text |
因為我不想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].start |
10254.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].end |
10256.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].text |
那個超時太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].start |
10258.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].end |
10260.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].text |
我想要講的事情是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].start |
10260.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].end |
10262.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].text |
近年職場合理調整的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
10262.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].end |
10264.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].text |
真的有越來越多的判例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].start |
10264.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].end |
10266.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].text |
可是我們看不出來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
10266.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].end |
10269.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].text |
為什麼他有時候認定是歧視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
10269.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].end |
10271.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
有時候認為不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].start |
10271.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].end |
10272.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].text |
那第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].start |
10272.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].end |
10274.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].text |
到底是不是個義務這一層 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].start |
10274.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
10277.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].text |
已經不是一致了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
10277.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
10280.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
依照CRPD的法他應該是義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].start |
10280.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].end |
10281.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].text |
那再來這個義務之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].start |
10281.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].end |
10284.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].text |
就像您剛講的認定標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].start |
10284.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].end |
10285.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].text |
也非常的不一 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
10285.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
10288.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
那既然秘書長願意去努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
10288.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
10290.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
我想講的事情是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
10290.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
10293.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
你們是不是可以先就近年累積的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
10293.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
10296.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
障礙者職場合理調整的判例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
10296.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].end |
10299.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].text |
進行系統性的彙整跟延期 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
10299.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
10304.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].text |
然後根據CRPD國內法的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].start |
10304.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
10308.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
把這些案例做成教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
10308.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
10310.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
再給法官做研習好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
10310.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
10311.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].text |
如果你講法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
10311.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
10313.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
等一下萬一上課的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
10313.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
10316.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].text |
大家太累了打瞌睡了怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
10316.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
10319.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].text |
那至少把你們的案例做延期 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
10319.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
10321.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].text |
哪些其實那些判決是錯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
10321.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
10323.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].text |
違反CRPD的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
10323.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
10324.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
這一定可以做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
10324.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
10325.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
哪些是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
10325.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
10327.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
然後讓大家了解合理調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].start |
10327.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].end |
10329.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].text |
依照我們的CRPD |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
10329.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
10331.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].text |
不是優惠性的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
10331.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
10333.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
他已經是義務了好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
10333.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
10334.44 |
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這一定可以做到 |
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那這樣子你們這個做法 |
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多久內可以給我一個報告呢 |
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做完就是你不一定要做完 |
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就是預計要怎麼做 |
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多久內可以做完 |
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可是我們做系統性的彙整 |
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可不可以給我們一個月 |
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好一個月 |
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至少把你的計畫要怎麼做 |
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讓我知道好嗎 |
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好那謝謝秘書長 |
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好我繼續監督 |
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好謝謝菲律賓委員 |
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好那麼我們今天所有登記發言的委員 |
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都已經發言完畢尋答結束 |
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那委員結束的時候 |
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所要求提供的相關資料 |
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或以書面答覆者 |
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就請相關機關 |
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儘速送交個別委員以及本會 |
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那麼委員蔡奇昌、傅崑琪、許宇貞 |
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等委員所提的書面質詢 |
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我們就列入記錄、刊登公報 |
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並起相關機關以書面答覆 |
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由於明天是召開全院委員會的公聽會 |
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就是針對經常委員同意權的公聽會 |
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所以本次會議為週三 |
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就是一天一次會 |
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那會議就進行到此為止 |
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我們的議程討論事項個案 |
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均作如下的決議 |
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我們就另定期繼續審查 |
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好的,我們現在散會 |
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謝謝大家 |
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