| IVOD_ID |
17648 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17648 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-35-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第29次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
29 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第29次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-05T08:36:35+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-05T11:30:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
02:53:25 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/7a505bc1fba11f2d5aaa864c46863ae2ac003cba48680cf8df57eeef4bb6a12a7f144381f9f154af5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第29次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告「因應敵情與灰色地帶威脅升高，國軍如何強化官兵精神戰力建構及心理韌性作為」，並備質詢。） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:36:35 - 11:30:00 |
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馬委員文君 |
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馬委員文君 |
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1460.17 |
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1463.41 |
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報告委員會出席委員10人已足法定人數 |
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1464.19 |
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1465.85 |
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我們現在開始開會 |
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1465.85 |
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1468.85 |
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請議事人員宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
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1494.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
1497.19 |
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報告時,詳益宣讀上次會議議事錄決定確定 |
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1497.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
1499.19 |
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二、邀請外交部部長林佳龍報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
1499.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
1501.19 |
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我國近年針對南海主權與法律地位之國際宣傳 |
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1501.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
1503.19 |
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使基層效及如何應對周邊國家擴大主權 |
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1503.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
1505.19 |
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國際宣傳之具體反制策略 |
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1505.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
1507.19 |
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並請海洋委員會、大陸委員會練習 |
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1507.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
1509.19 |
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並且向國際宣傳局提供資料 |
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1509.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
1511.19 |
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並請海洋委員會、大陸委員會練習 |
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1511.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
1513.19 |
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並請海洋委員會、大陸委員會練習 |
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1513.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
1515.19 |
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並請海洋委員會、大陸委員會練習 |
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1515.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
1517.19 |
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並請海洋委員會、大陸委員會練習 |
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1517.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
1519.19 |
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加強國家宣傳和國家擴大主權 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
1519.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
1521.19 |
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國際宣傳之具體反制策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
1521.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
1523.19 |
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並請海洋委員會、大陸委員會練習 |
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1523.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
1525.19 |
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並備質詢 |
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1525.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
1527.19 |
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外交部部長林佳龍報告 |
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1527.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
1529.19 |
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委員陳俊宇 |
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1528.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
1530.67 |
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等17人質詢軍有外交部部長 |
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1530.67 |
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1534.67 |
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林佳龍、亞東太平洋司副師長劉坤豪 |
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1534.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
1536.67 |
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條約法律師、師長李獻章 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
1536.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
1538.67 |
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及大陸委員會副主任委員 |
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1538.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
1540.67 |
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沈友忠等及其答覆 |
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1540.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
1542.97 |
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決定登記質詢在場委員 |
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1542.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
1544.97 |
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均已發言完畢報告及巡達結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
1544.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
1548.97 |
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二委員黃仁、沈柏楊所提書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報 |
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1548.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
1552.97 |
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三委員所提書面及口頭質詢為其答覆或要求提供之資訊 |
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1552.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
1557.97 |
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請相關機關與二周內以書面答覆本會全體委員並赴之本會 |
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1557.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
1560.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
委員另有指定期限者從其鎖定 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
1560.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
1562.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
1564.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
1566.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
請醫事人員宣讀報告事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
1567.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
1568.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
報告事項 |
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1568.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
1570.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
1570.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
1573.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
因應敵情與灰色地帶威脅升高 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
1573.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
1578.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
國軍如何強化官兵精神戰力建構及心理韌性作為並備質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
1578.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
1579.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
宣讀完畢 |
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1581.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
1584.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
我們現在介紹在場委員以及與會的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
1584.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
1586.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
首先介紹陳永康陳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
1589.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1593.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
練習由我們國防部顧立雄顧部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
1594.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
1596.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
副總長執行官黃志偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
1596.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1597.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
皇上將 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
1599.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
1601.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
陳文心陳常務次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1602.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1606.55 |
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全民防衛動員署林淳美林執行長 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
1607.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
1611.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
總督察長室副總督察長陳雀之 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1612.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1615.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
副總督察長石文龍石參事 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
1616.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1619.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
政務辦公室孫立芳孫主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
1619.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1621.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
政治作戰局史順文史局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
1622.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1625.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
軍備局黃超正黃局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
1627.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1629.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
主計局謝祺賢謝局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
1631.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1633.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
軍醫局陳元昊陳局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
1635.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1637.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
戰略規劃師黃文琦黃司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1638.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
1640.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
資源規劃師藍靜婷藍司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
1642.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
1645.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
法律事務司吳亦勝吳司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
1646.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
1649.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
整合拼固私史其良史副司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
1651.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1654.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
國防採購室趙雅萍趙主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
1655.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
1659.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
人事參謀次長室王智輝王次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
1660.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1663.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
情報參謀次長室謝日生謝次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
1665.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1669.15 |
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作戰局計劃參謀次長室侯嘉倫侯次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
1670.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1673.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
後勤參謀次長室李鳳翔李次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
1674.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1678.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
通信電子資訊參謀次長室謝峻山謝次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
1680.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1683.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
訓練參謀次長室郭俊德郭次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
1684.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1686.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
陸軍司令部陳建義參謀長 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
1688.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1690.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
海軍司令部朱惠民參謀長 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
1691.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1693.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
空軍司令部李慶然參謀長 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1694.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1697.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
後備指揮部薛淵權薛參謀長 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
1698.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1701.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
憲兵指揮部張純志張參謀長 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1701.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1705.87 |
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陸軍後勤指揮部梁詠坤梁參謀長 |
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1706.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1710.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
資通電軍指揮部方士元方參謀長 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1711.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1713.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
軍事情報局 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1713.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1715.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
楊湘禮楊處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1717.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1720.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
電訊發展室林政維林執行長 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1721.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1723.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
國防大學李承莊李教育長 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1724.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1727.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
我叫中山科學研究院李世強李院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1731.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1735.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
本日會議邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1735.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1738.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
因應敵情與灰色地帶威脅升高 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1738.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1743.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
國軍如何強化官兵精神戰力建構及心理任性作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1743.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1747.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
並被質詢現在請顧部長上台報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1756.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1758.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
主席俄格委員先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1758.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1761.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
今天應邀至外交局官委員會實施專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1762.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1767.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
陳鋒各位委員對國軍如何強化官兵精神戰力及心理任性工作的關切 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
1767.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1770.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
在此表達誠摯敬意 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
1770.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
1772.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
面對中共持續應用灰色地帶襲擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
1772.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1777.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
認知作戰 錯假訊息及拉攏 滲透等手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
1777.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1781.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
企圖影響官兵思想認知與部隊團結 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
1781.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1783.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
精神戰力與心理任性已成為 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
1784.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1787.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
國軍漸進備戰不可或缺的基石 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1787.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1790.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
國防部將秉持結合敵情 支持戰備原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
1790.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1793.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
持續強化官兵抗敵意志 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1795.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1798.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
國軍如何強化官兵精神戰力建構及心理任性作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1798.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
1800.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
向各位委員提出報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
1800.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
1802.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
敬請各位委員指導與支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
1819.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
1820.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
中視 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
1820.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
1821.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
各位委員先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
1821.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
1822.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
1822.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
1823.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
繼續實施專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
1825.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
1829.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
一前沿 近年來中共持續運用灰色地帶襲擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
1829.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
1833.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
認知作戰 統戰滲透及網路攻擊等複合式手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
1833.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
1837.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
企圖在未達傳統武裝衝突門檻下影響國人認知 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
1838.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
1841.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
分化社會團結 削弱國人防衛意志 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
1841.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
1845.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
並藉由操弄輿論 製造對立及散播錯假訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
1845.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
1848.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
對官兵心理與全民信心形成壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
1849.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
1854.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
灰色地帶威脅已經成為中共對我密集攻擊的無效元戰場 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
1854.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
1856.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
國軍在建軍備戰之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
1856.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
1861.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
亦需重視官兵精神戰力建構及心理任性的培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
1861.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
1866.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
方便確保各級部隊在面對灰色地帶威脅及複合式挑戰時 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
1866.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
1869.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
能夠堅守崗位 穩健應處 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
1869.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
1871.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
以堅定意志遂行防衛作戰任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
1872.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
1873.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
1873.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
1876.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
國軍建構精神戰力與心理任性具體作法 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
1876.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
1878.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
本部依據憲法及國防二法 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
1878.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
1882.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
適應國內外環境變遷 並結合建軍備戰需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
1882.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
1885.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
透過常備部隊訓練 入伍訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
1885.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
1889.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
後備軍人教育召集訓練及軍事學校教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
1889.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
1893.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
使官兵認清敵情威脅 建立敵我意識 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
1893.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
1896.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
砥礪忠貞至解 鞏固軍人核心價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
1896.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
1899.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
堅定為何而戰 為誰而戰信念 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
1899.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
1901.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
相關作法 栽爆如次 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
1902.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
1904.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
在部隊教育方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
1904.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
1908.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
以舉光日教學 每週四舉光園地電視教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
1908.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
1912.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
已經成為國軍基層部隊精神教育最重要的管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
1912.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
1914.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
一般部隊每週施教一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
1914.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
1918.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
並自114年起改採模組化課表 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
1918.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
1921.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
以涵養國家責任榮譽軍人信念 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
1921.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
1926.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
認清區域安全情勢與中共對台認知作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
1926.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
1929.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
建立官兵基本素養三大面向為主軸 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
1929.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
1931.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
後職部隊精神戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
1932.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
1933.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
二 保防教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
1933.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
1936.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
透過年度軍用技術專案巡迴宣教 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
1936.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
1939.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
保防教育講座以及舉光園地電視教學等實績 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
1939.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
1944.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
邀請實際從事兩岸研析及案件調查的專家學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
1944.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
1946.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
剖析中共常見滲透手法 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
1946.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
1951.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
並持可命用部隊集會及離營綜合座談實績宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
1951.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
1956.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
建立官兵全民國防安全共識與識別滲透風險的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
1957.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
1959.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
三 心理素質與抗壓訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
1959.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
1963.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
各軍種依據特性與任務落實基層部隊心理素質 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
1963.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
1966.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
合理冒險及戰場抗壓等相關課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
1966.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
1972.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
並結合競訓基地實績藉由模擬仿真戰場景況及實戰化訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
1972.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
1974.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
評估官兵作戰意志 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
1974.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
1977.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
精進心理心防鞏固作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
1977.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
1978.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
四 心理衛生教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
1978.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
1980.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
為提升官兵心理健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
1980.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
1984.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
每季以情緒管理及壓力調適等課程為主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
1984.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
1986.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
實施兩個小時心理衛生教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
1986.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
1990.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
協助官兵在面對高壓或突發狀況時 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
1990.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
1992.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
能夠及早辨識自身狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
1992.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
1994.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
降低情緒與壓力反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
1994.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
1997.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
主動運用團隊資源與尋求幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
1997.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
1999.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
持續投入任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
1999.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
2001.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
在入伍教育部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
2001.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
2003.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
為增強入伍生從軍自信 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
2003.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
2005.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
並培養使命感與榮譽心 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
2005.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
2008.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
於入伍階段增訂國防通識教育課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
2008.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
2011.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
113年編印從軍出發教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
2011.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
2015.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
納入國軍戰史、軍人武德、中共認知作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
2015.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
2018.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
軍中人權及保密防諜等課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
2018.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
2021.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
配合入伍訓練時時16小時的教育課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
2021.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
2025.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
並建置國防通識教育網多元影音資料庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
2025.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
2028.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
提供各新訓單位授課使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
2028.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
2030.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
在學校教育召集部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
2030.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
2033.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
為使後備軍人理解當前國防政策與敵情威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
2033.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
2036.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
強化精神戰力及愛國信念 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
2036.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
2039.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
113年編印動員及戰力教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
2039.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
2045.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
內容包含全民國防、軍法紀、軍人武德、中共認知作戰及愛國教育等單元 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
2045.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2049.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
於招訓期間實施5個小時的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
2049.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
2052.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
並結合多元影音資料庫建置輔助教學影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
2052.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
2054.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
提供招訓部隊運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
2054.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
2056.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
在學校教育部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
2056.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
2058.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
新式院校 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
2058.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
2062.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
軍事校園基礎教育開設共同性一般課程政治教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
2062.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
2065.54 |
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繼中華民國憲法與立國精神 |
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2065.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
2072.54 |
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中華民國發展史、中國大陸問題研究、哲學概論及軍事倫理學等5個科目12學分 |
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2072.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
2075.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
建立國軍幹部民主憲政素養 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
2075.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
2079.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
提升軍官學校學生敵情觀念與武德修為 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
2079.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
2082.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
培養私己知彼能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
2082.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2084.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
3. 策進作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
2084.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
2087.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
1. 加強敵情與媒體試圖教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
2087.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
2092.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
考量近年中共不斷加大對我軍事威懾統戰及認知作戰力度 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
2092.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2098.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
自115年起除增加舉光原地敵情與媒體試圖教育時數 |
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2098.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
2103.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
聚焦於中共政軍活動、統戰滲透、認知作戰等主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
2103.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
2107.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
並與中央廣播電台及民間專家學者合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
2107.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2111.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
引導官兵從兩岸政治體制與政府治理制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
2111.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2115.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
2. 政軍威權與民主體制的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
2115.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2119.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
並以實際案例分析中共誘騙、脅迫官兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
2119.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
2122.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
洩漏軍事機密等滲透樣態 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
2122.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
2127.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
防度官兵因財務困難與不當借貸遭到中共社局吸收 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
2129.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2131.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
紮根基層幹部抗敵意志 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
2131.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2133.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
軍校生是基層部隊中間幹部 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
2133.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2136.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
契區了解國家安全威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
2136.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2139.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
故畢業生專案教育複名為反共外國教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
2139.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
2143.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
並以認同民主國家、堅定反共信念為主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
2143.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
2149.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
依敵情威脅、軍人武德、愛國信念及國防政策等主軸設計課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
2149.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2151.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
邀請陸委會、國安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
2152.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2155.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
法務部調查局、勤字市等機關首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
2155.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2158.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
以及中研院學者等講述政府兩岸政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
2158.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2161.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
中共對台軍事與認知作戰威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
2161.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2165.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
共諜滲透態樣及威權擴張等國家安全核心議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
2165.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2168.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
以堅定基層幹部抗敵意志 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
2168.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2171.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
三、依托戰訓斷駐精神戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
2171.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2174.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
每年於漢光演習、實兵操演之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
2174.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
2176.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
辦理精神戰力專案教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
2176.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2178.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
期間三日密集課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
2178.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2181.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
提振部隊精神士氣、凝聚團結相心 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
2181.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2184.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
今年於7月28日至30日實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2184.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2189.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
由總統、部長及總長分別進行精神講話與任務提示 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
2189.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2193.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
並以戰爭形態、兩岸情勢改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
2193.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2196.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
以及備戰訓練革新等考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2196.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2198.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
三、聚焦剖析敵情威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
2198.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2202.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
落實實戰化訓練及強化全社會防衛韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2202.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2204.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
三大主軸進行授課 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2204.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2206.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
明確演訓方向與重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2206.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2210.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
同時紮根官兵思想防線與心理韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
2210.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2214.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
以達展現防衛決心及累積作戰經驗等目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2214.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2216.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
四、強化心理韌性訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2216.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2218.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
為強化官兵遭遇挫折時 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
2218.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2221.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
仍保有堅持適應的成長能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2221.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2223.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
為啟民間學術單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2223.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2228.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
透過專業及客觀的立場協助發展心理韌性教材及施之培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2228.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2232.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
提升官兵面對壓力與逆境的適應能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2232.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2235.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
五、防護中共網路社群滲透 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2235.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2239.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
今年中共頻繁透油網路扩大滲透與接觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2239.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2244.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
兩部定班國軍人員使用社群媒體應行注意事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2244.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2247.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
及國軍各級部隊官兵及眷屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2247.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2250.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
各支保護安全指引宣導資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2250.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2254.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
教育官兵及眷屬使用社群媒體應提高警覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2254.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2257.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
並鼓勵主動檢舉中共滲透不法 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2257.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2261.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
六、擴增戰場抗壓科學化訓練能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2261.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2266.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
規劃在陸軍官校黃埔營區、金六節營區、成功嶺營區、 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2266.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2269.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
砍角訓練場、大內營區等處 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2269.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2273.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
增建五座戰場抗壓館及五座合理冒險場 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2273.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2276.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
將於116年底全數竣工 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
2276.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2281.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
可擴大國軍戰場抗壓及合理冒險訓練普及率 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2281.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2286.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
增加訓場效益以科學訓練提升官兵戰場抗壓能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
2287.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2289.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
多謝您的觀看 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2288.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2293.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
見此,精神教育與心理韌性以成為後職持久作戰能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2293.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2296.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
與全社會防衛韌性的重要戰略基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2296.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2300.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
國防部將持續精進多元教育方式與內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2300.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2304.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
落實舉官的教學、國防通識教育、保防教育、 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2304.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2307.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
戰場抗壓及心理素質訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2307.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2313.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
結合平時教學、戰備整備、演訓驗證與敵情教育等時機 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2313.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2317.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
建立官兵敵我意識、國家認同及共同防衛意志 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2317.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2320.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
以上報告,敬請各位委員先進支持與指教,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2326.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2332.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
好,我們現在補充介紹陳俊宇陳委員還有黃仁黃委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2332.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2336.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
我們請問在場委員對於上次會議議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2336.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2340.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
有疑漏或錯誤需要更正之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2340.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2342.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
沒有,我們議事錄確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2342.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2345.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
現在開始尋答本會委員6.2分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2345.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2347.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
非本會委員5分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
2347.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2349.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
10點30分截止發言登記 |
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2349.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2354.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
如有臨時提案,請於10點30分之前提出11點左右處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2354.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2357.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
現在請陳俊宇委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2363 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2365 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
好,謝謝趙偉,我們有請顧部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2366.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2367.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
顧部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2370.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2371.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
部長早 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2372.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2373.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
陳院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
2403.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2405.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
來跟部長您進行討論 |
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2405.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2412.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
近年來我們看到中共不論是對於台灣的侵擾或是演訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2412.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2418.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
還是在台海周邊推行常態性的巡弋或是執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2418.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2425.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
透過這些揮帶行動想把台海內海化的企圖已經相當明顯 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2425.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2428.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
中共也持續完備對台封鎖的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2428.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2432.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
如何在中國海上脅迫的升級之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
2432.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2438.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
我們在面對潛在的司法隔離或是海上封鎖的情境 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
2438.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2442.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
如何來維持重要的資源運補路線的韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2444.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2446.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
那會是一個關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
2446.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2451.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
我們也了解到這次漢光演習在反封鎖的這個項目當中 |
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2451.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2457.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
會透過整合海軍和海巡的相關兵力在西太平洋作為相關的演練 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2457.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2462.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
運用聯合勤監偵來協同應處的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2462.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2465.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
執行海上執法護航的任務等等 |
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2465.48 |
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那這部分想先就叫我們部長 |
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2474.48 |
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這次透過反封鎖護航演練所需要驗證的重點及目標 |
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2474.48 |
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2478.48 |
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以及我們國防部如何藉此進一步來強化 |
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2478.48 |
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2481.48 |
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和我們海巡之間的應處能力 |
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這是第一點 |
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2486.48 |
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那另外我們要如何在這次的演練當中 |
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2489.48 |
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納入可能與友盟國家之間 |
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2489.48 |
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2492.48 |
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需要聯合協助反封鎖的做法 |
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2495.48 |
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以貼近實際的情境 |
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2497.48 |
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那就這個部分是請部長說明一下 |
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2503.2 |
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各位委員報告我想演練的重點在這個 |
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2503.2 |
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2506.2 |
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你提到的這個反封鎖的這個部分 |
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2506.2 |
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2509.2 |
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我們會包括聯合勤監偵的共享 |
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2509.2 |
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2513.2 |
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海上目標的監控還有通報 |
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2515.2 |
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那當然也包括反封鎖的護航 |
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2515.2 |
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2518.2 |
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那還有包括海上土豪狀況的處置 |
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2518.2 |
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2520.2 |
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以及軍民整合協調機制 |
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2520.2 |
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2526.2 |
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那主要就是模擬中共的海警公務船跟民兵船等等 |
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2526.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2530.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
這些護航式的洗澡的這些太陽 |
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2530.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2534.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
來驗證我們各級的指揮鏈路跟勤職交換 |
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2534.2 |
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2536.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
以及病例運用的效能 |
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2536.2 |
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2540.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
我們也確保海上交通線跟重要的物資運不安全 |
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2540.2 |
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2545.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
那就這個部分我們會跟海巡來共同來進行 |
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2545.2 |
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2548.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
因為海巡依照我們這個志願協定 |
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2548.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2552.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
我們是要共同執行海域監控跟應變的處置 |
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2552.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2556.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
所以海巡在執法任務有資源需求的是 |
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2556.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2560.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
我們國軍就會依規定來派遣士協兵力來測驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
2560.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2565.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
來進行一個平時協作暫時支援的關係 |
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2566.53 |
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2567.03 |
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好 |
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2567.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
2571.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
那延續這個中共它常態性的這種巡弋問題 |
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2571.63 |
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2576.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
我想我們想要了解中共在這個台海周邊海域 |
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2576.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
2582.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
除了這個海軍海警公務船的這種混合式的運用之外 |
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2582.63 |
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2586.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
他們還包括這個科研船在進行揮帶侵擾 |
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2586.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
2588.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
同樣也越來越頻繁 |
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2588.13 |
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2591.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
那在上個月我們專報當中也有提到 |
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2591.63 |
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2595.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
他們藉由這個海洋科學研究的名義 |
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2595.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
2599.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
到我們東部海域和東沙島附近的水域來活動 |
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2599.63 |
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2602.63 |
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並且投放許多這種科學儀器 |
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2602.63 |
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2607.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
實際可能是在進行有軍事價值的水文資訊的蒐集 |
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2607.63 |
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2611.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
甚至是進行水下的監偵追蹤 |
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2611.13 |
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2615.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
也攸關他們潛艦作戰的一個環境的一個探視 |
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2615.63 |
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2621.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
這些侵擾活動我們第一線會是由海巡來進行應對 |
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2621.13 |
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2622.63 |
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那我想請教部長 |
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2622.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
2624.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
現階段我們中共運用 |
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2624.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
2631.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
現階段這個中共它運用可能是軍民糧用性質的這種船舶 |
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2631.13 |
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2634.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
在台灣東部海域來進行探測的活動 |
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2634.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
2639.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
那對於我們的這種防衛部署是否會造成什麼樣的影響 |
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2639.13 |
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2642.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
那這些他們所謂的這種科研船 |
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2642.13 |
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2645.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
若是在我們的經濟海域來頻繁活動 |
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2645.13 |
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2649.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
那國防部如何來辨別它的意圖還有它威脅的一個樣態 |
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2649.63 |
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2652.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
那我們又會採取什麼樣的一個應處的作為 |
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2654.74 |
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2656.24 |
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委員好我是座議次長 |
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2656.24 |
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2658.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
針對剛剛委員所提問的 |
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2658.24 |
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2663.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
針對這個所謂海洋船在那邊放相關的感測器 |
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2663.24 |
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2665.74 |
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那都是屬於一個戰場經營的部分 |
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2665.74 |
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2670.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
那我們也有在相關的對應也是要從事相關的戰場經營 |
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2670.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
2676.24 |
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那對於這些的這個相關的應處跟監偵我們都持續密注 |
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2676.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
2680.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
然後納入到我們的相關的處置的作為的想定裡面 |
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2680.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
2683.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
那並跟這個海巡署密切的協調聯繫 |
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2683.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
2687.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
取而相關的機制的運作的處置作為之後 |
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2687.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
2688.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
納入到研討 |
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2691 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
2695 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
剛剛您提到那些有關這個 |
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2695 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
2699 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
非軍方的這個海警船跟公務船舶的部分 |
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2699 |
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2704 |
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那這個部分我們當然就先是由海巡來進行應處這樣子 |
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2704 |
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2705.5 |
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那剛剛已經講過了 |
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2705.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
2709 |
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如果有任何需要我們來支援的部分 |
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2709 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
2712 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
我們會跟他們進行協助這樣子 |
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2712 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
2714 |
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國防部的部分就是協助海巡 |
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2714.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
2720.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
對對對因為我們在這個屬於非軍方的這個部分 |
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2720.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
2725.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
那應對的部分不管是海警船或科研船等等 |
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2725.5 |
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2728 |
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那是由海巡先來應對 |
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2728 |
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2730.5 |
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但是有任何的這個突發狀況的時候 |
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2730.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
2732 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
我們會進行支援 |
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2735.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
2736.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
密切的掌握 |
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2736.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
2738.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
因為他們有可能他們這是偽裝的 |
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2738.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
2739.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
偽裝的名船 |
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2739.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
2744.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
我們都會利用我們的這些相關的這些情節 |
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2744.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
2746.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
我們來進行這個識別 |
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2747.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
2751.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
好那我們也看到這個中共持續在我們台灣東南方 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
2751.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
2754.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
還有菲律賓以東的這個水域來進行訓練 |
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2754.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
2757.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
包括他們的航母編隊進行訓練以外 |
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2757.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
2761.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
還有兩棲攻擊艦配合執行聯合這個演訓 |
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2761.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
2765.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
展現出他們具備能夠走出第一島鏈 |
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2765.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
2768.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
進入到這個西太平洋的這種能力 |
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2768.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
2771.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
那有武力投射的部分 |
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2771.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
2773.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
因此我們也不排除對 |
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2773.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
2777.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
這個部分來進行這個關注 |
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2777.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
2781.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
那因為他對於我們台灣東部及外離島的一個威脅 |
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2781.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
2783.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
我們看到國防部在七月的時候 |
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2783.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
2789.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
有一個聯合防禦操演的這個活動 |
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2789.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
2791.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
有到我們綠島還有蘭嶼 |
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2791.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
2794.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
來實施登島防衛的作戰演訓 |
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2794.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
2796.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
也引起一陣的討論 |
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2796.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
2797.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
那這部分想請教部長 |
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2797.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
2800.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
我們國防部評估東部這個外島 |
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2800.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
2803.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
在防衛作戰的角色是為何 |
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2803.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
2806.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
那在這次實施演練的 |
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2807.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
2811.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
之後是否會強化我們在東部地區的一個防衛能力 |
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2811.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
2814.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
甚至可能增加相關的演訓頻率 |
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2814.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
2815.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
有沒有可能 |
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2816.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
2820.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
我想我們任何演訓都是掺著敵近威脅 |
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2820.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
2825.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
按照各種可能的行動來設計這個想定的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
2825.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
2830.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
所以我們有關外離島地區的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
2830.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
2835.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
我們會來深化我們戰場的兵要的一個經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
2835.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
2837.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
然後發揮我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
2837.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
2838.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
我們是防衛作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
2838.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
2840.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
我們有主場優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
2840.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
2845.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
那至於我想詳細的細節的部分可能沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
2845.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
2849.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
不是對應式的這種防衛演訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
2849.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
2850.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
2851.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
2855.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
我們只能夠說我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
2856.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
2860.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
會來根據我們的這個掺著敵的可能行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
2860.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
2862.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
我們會設計想定的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
2862.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
2865.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
然後來進行我們必要的一個演訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
2865.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
2868.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
然後來應處各種可能的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
2868.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
2870.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
也是全面性的演訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
2870.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
2871.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
2871.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
2874.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
當然所有對他可能的行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
2874.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
2877.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
我們都要進行想定然後進行狀況設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
2877.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
2878.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
2878.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
2881.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
那這部分再請我們國防部還有我們海巡 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
2881.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
2884.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
就相關的情勢發展能夠滾動的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
2884.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
2886.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
來強化我們跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
2886.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
2889.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
甚至跨國的這種協調還有應變能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
2889.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
2891.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
確保我們國家的一個安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
2891.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
2893.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
還有我們主權的一個自主性 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
2893.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
2894.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
2894.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
2895.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
好 謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
2895.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
2896.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
謝謝 謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
2898.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
2899.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
2901.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
2904.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
接下來請黃仁委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
2912.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
2913.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
有請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
2914.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
2915.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
請 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
2921.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
2922.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
是 黃仁委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
2922.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
2923.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
2923.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
2928.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
那看到今天的一個報告裡面提到了一個有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
2928.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
2934.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
國軍如何強化部隊的一個戰場抗壓能力的一個作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
2935 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
2936 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
2936.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
2938.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
當然這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
2938.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
2942.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
沒計時事的一個兩小時的心理衛生的一個教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
2942.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
2948.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
委託民間學術單位發展教材以及培訓的一個師資 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
2948.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
2954.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
增建武作戰場抗壓館及武作的合理冒險館 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
2954.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
2955.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
那冒險場 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
2955.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
2959.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
但本席很好奇的是對於作為對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
2959.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
2964.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
這些作為對於部隊心理數值的一個提升有多大的一個幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
2964.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
2967.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
有沒有科學化的一個評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
2967.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
2974.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
那就算是一個戰場抗壓館就本席所知道的很多人在反應好像好玩 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
2974.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
2977.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
甚至戲稱為紓壓館 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
2977.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
2979.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
而不是抗壓館 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
2979.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
2981.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
這是一個實戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
2981.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
2985.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
這個其實是一個實戰感的一個落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
2985.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
2989.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
恐怕很難提升官兵的一個心理數值 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
2989.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
2990.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
那另外就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
2990.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
2995.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
我們本席這個局國外的一個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
2995.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
3000.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
大部分的一個標準化評估會使用不只是一份量表 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
3000.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
3005.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
而進行評估信念成效以內徑適應的一個能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
3006.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
3012.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
美軍的一個CDISC的一個量表 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
3012.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
3018.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
還有BRS量表和ZAT的一個評估量表 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
3018.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
3022.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
那就包含信念成效評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
3022.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
3025.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
遭過壓力後的一個恢復力 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
3025.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
3031.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
那自信心樂觀程度對抗這個挫折的一個能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
3031.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
3036.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
而且不只是針對特定有心理風險的官兵的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
3036.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
3040.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
所以這是一個本來就是一個定期的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
3040.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
3042.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
一個信念的一個要素 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
3042.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
3044.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
這個評估的要素 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
3044.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
3051.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
那我們現在看到的我們本國國防的這樣的一個紓壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
3051.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
3056.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
的一個抗壓的這樣的一個實際的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
3056.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
3065.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
我想我們應該要比照剛剛我舉例的一個國外的這樣一個抗壓的一個信念的一個要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
3065.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
3067.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
部長你認為呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
3067.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
3070.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
是我們確實有在做訊號的一個評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
3070.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
3073.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
那詳細的部分是不是請詹局說 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
3074.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
3076.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
委員好我是戰場局局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
3076.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
3080.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
跟您報告有關於戰場抗壓的這些部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
3080.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
3085.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
我們現在目前各軍種都是依照他的單位的任務跟特性 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
3085.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
3090.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
會安排基層部隊在進基地等等的期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
3090.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
3095.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
會有進到戰場抗壓的合理冒險訓練等等的一個課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
3095.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
3097.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
現在要問的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
3097.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
3100.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
你們在做這樣的動作的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
3100.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
3103.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
有沒有科學數據依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
3103.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
3105.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
現在我要講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
3105.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
3111.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
如果我們現在要仿照這個國外的這樣一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
3111.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
3113.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
是不是有更好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
3113.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
3118.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
更好能夠讓我們的國軍官兵在抗壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
3118.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
3121.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
在紓壓的狀況裡面得到更好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
3121.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
3122.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
3122.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
3123.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
是跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
3123.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
3127.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
第一個我們在訓前訓後確實都有做問卷的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
3127.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
3134.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
第二個在訓練過程當中學員要配戴一個身體數據的監測用的手環 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
3134.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
3139.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
那麼這個手環對於都可以及時監測他的呼吸心跳體溫 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
3139.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
3143.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
那之後來分析跟比對他抗壓的承受程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
3143.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
3148.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
我們來據此來了解他官兵的一個一個一個身體的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
3148.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
3149.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
好我們看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
3149.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
3153.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
我們委託民間協助單位發展教材及培訓的一個師資 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
3154.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
3160.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
由於台灣民間諮商心理協會的一個專業都偏向平時生活的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
3160.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
3163.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
那情緒管理或創傷輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
3163.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
3168.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
這個真正跟戰場極限的壓力同跑傷亡心理抗壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
3168.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
3170.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
有很大的一個落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
3170.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
3176.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
我想我們民間的這樣的一個諮商心理協會 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
3176.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
3180.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
我想他是在屬於一般的平時生活的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
3180.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
3182.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
或是情緒上的一個管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
3182.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
3191.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
那有沒有再有更好的教材能夠讓官兵更得到這樣的一個進步跟提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
3191.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
3192.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
3192.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
3194.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
是委員我想這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
3194.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
3202.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
剛剛局長有提到了我們在這個問卷上面有區分前跟後都有來實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
3202.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
3206.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
那委員的重點應該是在於是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
3206.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
3212.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
戰場的極限壓力跟平時的生活壓力是會有不同 |
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那麼我想就這個議題我想我下去之後我們來了解一下 |
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特別您提到的是也許美方 |
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尤其美軍他們是怎麼來做的 |
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那就這個部我們的這個訊前還有訊中我們做的這些監測 |
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還有這個訊後我們做的回顧 |
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那這些是不是足夠 |
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我想我們下去就 |
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你們評估 |
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3238.59 |
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3240.59 |
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按照委員指導我們會來解釋 |
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3240.59 |
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3242.59 |
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我給你評估然後再一份報告給我好不好 |
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3242.59 |
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3246.59 |
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我會請他們我來跟他們討論一下 |
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好 |
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3253.59 |
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那這樣好這按照媒體的報導今年的漢光演習會進行無人機的一個作戰驗證 |
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本席過去執行時不只是提到過 |
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3258.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
3264.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
部隊對於無人機信念的不能只會只會飛 |
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3264.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
3272.59 |
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真正要學的戰術要如何運用無人機偵查以目標獲得誘導七敵 |
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3272.59 |
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3280.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
然後即時引導這個火力戰損評估和持續監控敵軍的一個機動 |
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3280.59 |
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3283.59 |
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這些才是無人機的一個戰場上的一個真正的價值 |
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3285.59 |
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但就本席的觀察 |
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3285.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
3290.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
無人機目前無人機戰術信念的時數 |
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3290.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
3294.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
也不如無人機操作信念的時數 |
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3294.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
3297.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
那本席想了解無人機的作戰驗證 |
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3297.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
3301.59 |
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實在驗證部隊的無人機的操作監控 |
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3301.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
3305.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
這個能力還是驗證無人機的一個戰術 |
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3308.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
3309.63 |
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委員好我是主席市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
3309.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
3311.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
針對剛剛委員所問的 |
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3311.63 |
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3313.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
屬於這個作戰系統的串聯的部分 |
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3313.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
3317.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
我們現在利用我們現在既有的C2指管系統 |
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3317.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
3321.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
還有我們的兼徵型的無人機跟攻擊型的無人機 |
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3321.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
3324.63 |
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在這次漢光演習以及我們平常的演練中 |
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3324.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
3328.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
結合到我們指揮所把它擊殺鏈還有禽獸網串聯在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
3328.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
3330.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
這是我們現在在做的 |
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3330.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
3331.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
也就是剛剛委員所關切的 |
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3331.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
3336.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
那平常在訓練的時候除了您剛剛所說的基礎訓練之外 |
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| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
3339.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
那我們現在在參謀組織作業裡面 |
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3339.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
3344.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
也強化這一塊把這個相關的各個的這個系統把它串聯在一起 |
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3346.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
這是我們現在在的密切的行為 |
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3346.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
3351.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
漢光的重點在無人機部隊的戰術裡面 |
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3351.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
3354.63 |
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誰是重點在哪裡 |
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3354.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
3358.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
在驗證的這個無人機的過程裡面 |
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3358.63 |
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3359.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
是哪一個 |
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| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
3360.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
剛剛我講的嘛 |
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3360.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
3365.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
是操作能力還是驗證在無人機的戰術 |
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3365.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
3367.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
在漢光的重點是在哪裡 |
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3367.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
3368.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
這兩方面都有 |
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3368.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
3371.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
那我們除了驗證個人的操作之外 |
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3371.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
3374.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
我們現在用我們的火力資源協調中心 |
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3374.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
3376.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
在驗證我們這個系統的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
3378.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
3383.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
好 那我想是應該還是以驗證無人戰術 |
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3383.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
3386.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
作為漢光演習的一個重點 |
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3386.07 |
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3389.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
那這個部分我還是要提示一下 |
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3389.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
3394.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
那另外就是在根據二五戰爭的一個實戰的一個經驗 |
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| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
3398.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
無人機真正的威脅不是一架大型無人機 |
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| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
3401.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
而是大量低成本小型無人機 |
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| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
3404.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
這一次漢光有沒有演這個演練 |
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3404.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
3408.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
敵軍大量無人機包合的攻擊 |
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3411.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
另外就是我們各軍種各有各型的無人機 |
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3411.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
3417.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
在這一次系列是否共同同一套情資和作戰圖像 |
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| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
3418.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
還是各飛各的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
3420.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
那各自回傳 |
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3420.95 |
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3424.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
剛剛跟委員說明我們現在就是利用我們的這個火學中心 |
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3424.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
3427.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
還有我們現在的這個情報中心把這些 |
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3427.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
3430.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
運用我們現在既有的比如說TEC |
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| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
3431.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
有統合嗎 |
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| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
3432.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
對 有統合嗎 |
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| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
3436.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
有統合整合在一個共同作戰圖像裡面來去做這個驗證 |
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| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
3440.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
那這個包括剛剛你講的群峰的攻擊 |
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| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
3442.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
我們都有設計在我們的特別狀況裡面 |
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3442.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
3446.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
去做誘導各部隊來執行處置的作為 |
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3454.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
二戰爭就是作為我們國防國軍的一個一個一個借鏡 |
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3456.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
那最後一個問題是配合漢光演習 |
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3460.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
今年的一個城鎮任性演習進行行動 |
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3464.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
網路受阻情境的演練的時候 |
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3464.46 |
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3470.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
眾所周知無人機對於網路訓號的依賴限度這個非常的高 |
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3470.46 |
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3477.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
但是是否有模擬無人機在斷心斷網的時候 |
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| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
3479.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
來這樣的一個狀況 |
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3479.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
3482.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
那如何因應這樣的一個處境 |
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3483.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
3486.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
我們在平常訓練的時候也有這個模擬 |
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3486.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
3487.62 |
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就是個人操作的時候 |
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3487.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
3490.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
他就有斷網的訓練緊急運作處置 |
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3490.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
3493.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
那這次剛好配合這個城鎮任性的時候 |
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3493.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
3496.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
如果有斷網的情況就是要 |
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3497.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
3499.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
訓練他們臨機應處的狀況 |
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3499.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
3503.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
也就是在平常有訓練的剛好是拿出來做驗證 |
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3503.31 |
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3505.31 |
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這是一個剛開始 |
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3505.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
3511.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
無人機在操控的時候我們都仰賴這種的一個網路 |
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3511.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
3514.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
那當然我們現在就是束縛了 |
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3514.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
3518.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
就是萬一在飛行當中然後有斷性 |
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| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
3521.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
資訊斷線或斷網的狀況之下 |
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3521.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
3525.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
那如何因應變這個樣子的措施 |
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3525.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
3528.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
現在就是國際現在要朝這個方向 |
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3528.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
3533.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
因為我們現在無人機各種太多的機型 |
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3533.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
3537.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
但是在仰賴網路的情況之下 |
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3537.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3540.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
萬一碰到斷性斷網的時候 |
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3540.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3542.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
如何處置跟因應 |
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3542.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3545.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
這是一個現在很重要的議題好不好 |
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| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3546.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
以上 |
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3546.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3547.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
是謝謝委員長 |
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3547.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3551.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
我想這是我們應該要驗證的項目裡面 |
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3551.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3552.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
好謝謝 |
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3555.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3557.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
謝謝我們接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3558.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3560.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
請陳永康委員上台諮詢 |
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3572.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3576.16 |
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主席有請部長還有政戰局市局長 |
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3576.77 |
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3578.77 |
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請郭部長市局長 |
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3581.45 |
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部長早安 |
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是陳委員長 |
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3583.45 |
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3586.45 |
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根據今天市局長報告的內容 |
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我們也看到了國軍在強化官兵的精神戰力 |
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以及維持心理強健的結構上 |
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3594.45 |
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也花了很多努力 |
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我做出一些建言請做參考 |
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這個部分緊貢做參考 |
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我特別要強調的就是說 |
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3609.42 |
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我們不只是強調基層官兵的精神戰力 |
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最主要就是我們各級部隊長 |
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3612.42 |
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3616.42 |
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根據我們的作戰的指導跟戰務令 |
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3618.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3620.3 |
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官員要承擔責任 |
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3621.1 |
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3625.1 |
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部下才能承受這個抗壓的力 |
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3625.1 |
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3627.1 |
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這個部分需要努力 |
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3627.1 |
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3629.1 |
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因為我們現在常常強調都是在 |
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灰色地帶 |
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3634.48 |
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中共的襲擾其實它是兩方面 |
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所以這個部分可能我們除了在心理戰 |
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在舉光日強調以外 |
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3643.48 |
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另外一個中共會誤引用一部分 |
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就是說聯合國海洋法公約 |
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3647.48 |
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那個叫灰色區塊 |
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3650.48 |
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這裡面就有很多的定義是模擬兩何 |
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3650.48 |
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3652.48 |
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怎麼可能把台海內海化 |
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3652.48 |
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3657.48 |
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那這就違反了1982年聯合國海洋法公約 |
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3657.48 |
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3659.48 |
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所以這個部分的解釋 |
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3663.48 |
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我的建議是在舉光日也強化一些 |
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3666.48 |
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因為這裡面有很多將來我們談到的 |
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3668.48 |
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都涉及到武裝衝突法 |
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3668.48 |
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這個海洋法公約那些國際法的規範 |
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3674.48 |
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這個地方我想請政戰局 |
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3674.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3676.48 |
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跟我們的法律師一起 |
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3676.48 |
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3678.48 |
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不只是在我們的 |
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3679.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3682.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
這個館院或者是政戰學院 |
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3684.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3686.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
這個三軍大學的子參教育裡面 |
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3686.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3690.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
有關聯合國海洋法公約裡面 |
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3690.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3692.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
我們的維護權利怎麼做 |
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3692.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3694.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
這個部分可以再做一點強調 |
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3694.03 |
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3696.03 |
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部長是不是在這個部分給一些指導 |
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3696.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3699.03 |
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是我們現在已經在研擬那個 |
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3699.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3701.03 |
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我們先從戰願開始 |
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3701.03 |
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3704.03 |
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那已經納入您剛剛講的這些 |
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3704.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3707.03 |
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武裝衝突法跟這些相關的課程 |
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3707.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3711.03 |
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納入我們的這些子參跟深造教育裡面 |
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3711.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3715.03 |
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因為國際情勢上很多的引述 |
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3715.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3719.03 |
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通通把這個海洋法公約拿出來解釋 |
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3719.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3721.03 |
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可是不同的條款 |
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| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3723.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
它對應不同的案例 |
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3723.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3725.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
有時候是有一個模糊區塊 |
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3725.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3727.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
那這個東西就要請我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3727.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3730.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
這個法律的專業的軍官 |
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3730.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3731.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
來給一個指導 |
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| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3733.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
因為我舉例來講 |
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3733.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3737.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
在美國的各個重要作戰區 |
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3737.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3739.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
原來叫印太司令部 |
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3739.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
3741.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
現在回復了太平洋司令部 |
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3741.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
3743.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
他太平洋司令的旁邊 |
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3743.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
3745.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
一定有兩個資深的顧問 |
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| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
3747.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
一個是法律的顧問 |
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| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
3749.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
一個是外交的顧問 |
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3749.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
3753.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
所以他對所有的國際情勢的評估 |
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3753.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
3757.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
以及在區域上可能產生小規模的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
3761.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
這種灰色區塊或灰色地帶的衝突 |
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3761.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
3762.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
不管是執法性 |
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| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
3764.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
或者是海警或是Cost Guard |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
3764.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
3765.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
這種情況下 |
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3765.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
3769.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
很多都要由資深的法律官給做建議 |
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3769.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
3771.03 |
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那我這部分 |
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3771.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
3773.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
因為我們官兵在第一線 |
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3773.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
3776.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
承受的壓力就是突然發生的一個狀況 |
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| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
3780.03 |
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並不是簡單的ROE一個條板 |
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3780.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
3781.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
就是說他承擔什麼 |
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| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
3784.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
所以我們的軍官要承擔責任 |
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3784.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
3787.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
那麼幫部署背起責任 |
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3787.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
3791.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
那部署就有抗壓力的承受度 |
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3793.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
這個要大家努力的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
3795.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
我們再看第二章 |
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3795.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
3797.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
我們講現在的威懾嚇阻 |
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3797.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
3798.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
嚇阻戰力 持續戰力 |
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3798.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
3800.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
非對陣的用兵 反制手段 |
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| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
3803.03 |
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但是這個所謂的就是韌性 |
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| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
3805.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
包括個人的心理 社會的環境 |
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3805.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
3808.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
基礎設施 網路的韌性 |
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3808.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
3810.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
我們的官兵在第一線不放假 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
3810.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
3813.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
經常備戰 他跟家人的聯繫 |
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| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
3815.03 |
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如果因為斷網斷訊之中 |
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3815.03 |
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3819.03 |
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我們中間有個平台能夠通知他的家屬 |
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3820.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
3823.56 |
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你的弟兄在中間服役 安全沒問題 |
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3823.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
3826.56 |
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第二個 我們在第一線要讓官兵知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
3826.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
3828.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
如果因為保家衛國 |
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3829.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
3831.76 |
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你受了傷 |
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3831.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
3833.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
這個部分我們要保障 |
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3833.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
3835.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
我們在監獄院最好的照顧 |
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3835.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
3838.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
這個是維護他的心理安全的感受 |
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3838.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
3840.76 |
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而並不是說每個人都覺得 |
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| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
3842.76 |
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我不怕 我在第一線 我為國犧牲 |
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3844.07 |
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3846.07 |
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犧牲是偉大的情操 |
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| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
3848.07 |
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但是多數是傷患的照顧 |
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| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
3850.07 |
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這個後續的部分 |
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3852.07 |
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也請我們要強化 |
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3854.07 |
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所以我們在舉光路的課程裡面 |
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3854.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
3856.07 |
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我們對官兵 最低層的官兵 |
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3856.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
3858.07 |
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要做最佳的照顧 |
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3858.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
3861.07 |
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而不是只是測試他的抗壓能力 |
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3863.07 |
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因為抗壓真正的是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
3867.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
我們的各級長官要承受責任的壓力 |
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3867.07 |
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但部署你就去照顧他 |
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意思就是說 有任何的狀況下 |
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我們國軍把最基層的官兵 |
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3874.07 |
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做最好的照顧 |
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所以在這種情況下 |
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就是說 未得性是阻止敵方 |
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但是韌性是遭受攻擊後 |
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3884.07 |
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我要有存活 |
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3886.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
而也要有恢復原來的戰力 |
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這個部分我們是不是 |
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請政戰局局長您做一點強化的做法 |
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3892.07 |
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3893.07 |
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郭部長 |
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3894.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
我跟我也報告一下 |
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3894.07 |
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兩個部分就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3897.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
您講的這個法制的建議的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
3897.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
3899.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
已經都在我們的應變 |
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3899.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
3903.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
裡面都會有這樣的一個席位的設置 |
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| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
3905.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
這個已經在開始了 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
3905.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3907.07 |
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那有關那個戰傷 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
3907.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
3909.07 |
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我想這個部分的能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
3909.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3911.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
確實我們要在 |
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| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3913.07 |
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因為按照美方他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
3913.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
3918.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
應該是說在第一的一個處置上面 |
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3918.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3920.07 |
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我們就要有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
3923.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
高階的戰傷救護的處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
3923.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
3925.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
這樣的處置能力來可以避免 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
3925.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3927.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
後續在後送的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
3927.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
3929.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
他就來不及 |
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| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3931.07 |
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所以在第一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
3931.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
3933.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
那個剛開始的這個處置上面 |
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3933.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
3935.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
我們也正在研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
3935.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3938.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
軍醫局也正在跟各作戰單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
3938.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3940.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
已經開始進行研討 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
3940.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3944.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
那我們要加強我們的這個能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
3944.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3947.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
就這個部分可能還需要一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
3947.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3949.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
但我們會朝向這個強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
3949.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3952.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
我們的這個部隊的第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3952.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3955.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
一開始的這個戰傷者救護的能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
3955.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3956.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
這個部分來著手 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
3956.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3957.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
所以有一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
3957.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3959.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
我也請軍醫局您回答一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
3959.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3960.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
就是十年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
3960.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3963.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
那個八仙樂園的粉塵報 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
3963.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3965.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
那時候我還在國軍服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
3965.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3968.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
我們499個重傷 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
3968.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3970.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
全部是重等燒傷 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
3970.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3973.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
但我們國軍的精英院收了66個 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
3973.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3975.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
那個時候血漿不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3975.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3976.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
人工皮不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
3976.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3978.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
可是那個例子給我們一個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
3978.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3980.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
如果戰爭發生了 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
3980.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3983.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
這是一個過去的範例 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
3983.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3985.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
就是說我們的血漿儲存 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3985.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3986.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
跟人工皮 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
3986.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3990.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
然後其他的各種的藥劑止痛 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3991.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3992.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
那這個部分我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3992.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3994.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
我們在平成時期 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3994.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3997.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
希望軍醫的部分預做規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3997.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3999.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
這是重要的一個戰略物資 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3999.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
4000.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
並不是彈藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
4000.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
4002.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
這個部分如果能夠強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
4002.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
4005.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
我們的官兵有防衛的信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
4005.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
4008.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
他的這個心理戰的這個堅強性 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
4008.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
4011.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
因為即便是受傷有最好的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
4011.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
4013.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
這個局長您這邊是不是做點回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
4013.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
4014.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
是 跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
4014.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
4016.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
那有關剛剛委員所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
4016.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
4019.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
不管是在燒傷的這些質疲的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
4019.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
4022.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
我們在南北的部分都有建皮庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
4022.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
4024.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
另外在我們現在已經在規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
4024.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
4027.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
也正在這個興建中的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
4027.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
4029.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
我們在各院的北中南 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
4029.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
4030.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
都有這個捐血站的設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
4030.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
4033.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
我們會跟這個血液基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
4033.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
4035.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
做個很好的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
4035.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
4037.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
我們也希望說未來在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
4037.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
4038.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
國軍上面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
4038.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
4041.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
集捐集用跟血液上面的這個調度上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
4041.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
4044.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
也都能夠有進一步的這個能力跟規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
4044.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
4045.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
以上報告 |
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4045.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
4046.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
4046.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
4050.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
這個強化國軍官兵的這個精神戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
4050.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
4052.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
我們要大家共同努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
4052.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
4053.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
這個也謝謝部長指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
4053.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
4055.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
是 謝謝委員的指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
4055.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
4056.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
4058.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
4060.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
謝謝陳永康委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
4060.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
4064.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
接下來請王定宇委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
4072.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
4073.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
4073.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
4074.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
麻煩部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
4074.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
4075.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
請郭部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
4081.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
4082.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
是 王委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
4082.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
4084.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
部長辛苦 我們是希望盡快完成專報 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
4084.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
4087.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
讓各位今天是漢光開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
4087.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
4089.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
各位理論上不應該在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
4089.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
4092.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
你們應該在山洞裡 在各個的場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
4092.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
4095.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
那既然專報我們還是要問一些重要的題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
4096.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
4099.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
無人機跟的公與防 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
4100.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
4102.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
我看這一次有納入漢光42號的科目嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
4103.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
4105.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
無人機的部分有 是 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
4105.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
4106.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
有納入啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
4106.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
4107.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
我請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
4107.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
4110.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
我至少從書面資料看到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
4110.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
4114.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
我們無人機現在軟煞的部分是由 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
4114.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
4116.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
這一個通知處負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
4116.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
4119.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
硬煞的話是戰訊處來負責 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
4120.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
4122.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
還是說統合在一個單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
4122.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
4124.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
我們是由軍種來統一 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
4124.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
4126.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
統合 但是在陸軍裡面的分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
4126.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
4129.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
軟硬煞是分別兩個處來統籌 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
4129.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
4133.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
整個作戰運用還是由戰訊部門 |
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4133.79 |
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但是是基於軟硬煞的專業 |
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4138.79 |
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在建案方面有區分 |
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4140.79 |
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但是在整個的作業上面 |
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4140.79 |
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4142.79 |
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還是都會合署來共同完成 |
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4142.79 |
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4145.79 |
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我們都希望國軍的戰力更好 更強 |
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4145.79 |
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4148.79 |
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所以我提的意見不見得對 |
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4148.79 |
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4152.79 |
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但是我希望現在戰場上的狀況變化太快 |
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4152.79 |
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4155.79 |
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你光看烏克蘭 光看伊朗那邊就知道 |
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4155.79 |
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4157.79 |
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有時候最強的武器 |
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4157.79 |
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4159.79 |
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過了幾個季以後變得沒有用了 |
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4160.93 |
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4164.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
目前我看起來我們國軍是通知處負責軟煞 |
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4164.93 |
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4166.93 |
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因為他有他的專業嘛 |
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4168.93 |
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那戰訊處負責硬煞 |
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4168.93 |
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4170.93 |
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可是事實上這個東西 |
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4170.93 |
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4172.93 |
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是要整合在一起的 |
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4172.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
4174.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
感知系統不可能分兩套 |
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4175.95 |
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4177.95 |
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我看得見 我查知之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
4177.95 |
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4180.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
進入C2 command control |
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4180.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
4182.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
我該用什麼方法來截殺他 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
4182.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
4184.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
平時可能不能隨便開槍開砲 |
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4184.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
4185.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
我用軟煞 |
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4185.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
4187.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
可是軟煞未必有用 |
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4187.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
4190.95 |
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那介於軟硬煞之間最接近硬煞的方式是 |
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4190.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
4192.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
雷射 接下來是硬煞 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
4192.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
4195.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
不管用步槍 用三零砲等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
4196.46 |
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4198.46 |
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所以它是一個整合的系統 |
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4198.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
4200.46 |
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所以我們看到 |
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4200.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
4202.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
我之前碰到福林 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
4202.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
4206.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
福林做過美國的陸軍的司令 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
4206.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
4207.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
太平洋的陸軍司令 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
4207.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
4209.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
福林有點出一個問題說 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
4209.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
4212.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
面對反制無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
4212.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
4215.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
他看到台灣有點各自為政 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
4215.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
4217.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
他會有點擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
4217.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
4219.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
那我們把這個問題再拉大一點看 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
4219.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
4223.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
我們現在不只在陸軍軟硬煞分兩個處 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
4223.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
4227.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
事實上我們現在非軍方的所謂防衛韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
4228.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
4232.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
台電 中油 高鐵 警政署 海巡 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
4232.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
4233.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
他們也在買 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
4233.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
4236.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
他們也在採購無人機的反制系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
4236.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
4237.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
大家都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
4239 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
4240 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
互相干擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
4240 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
4241 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
這是一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
4241 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
4242 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
4242 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
4244 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
有沒有納入統合的指管 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
4244 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
4245 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
我一個無人機進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
4246.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
4247.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
誰看見了 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
4247.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
4249.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
用誰的系統來阻殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
4249.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
4250.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
照理說這要整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
4250.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
4253.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
所以在美國有一個經驗是 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
4253.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
4256.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
美軍就成立了一個JITF |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
4256.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
4258.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
那JITF |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
4258.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
4261.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
是在美國的國防部2019年 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
4261.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
4263.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
先成立了一個聯合辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
4263.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
4265.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
後來長設設立一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
4265.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
4267.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
聯合跨部會專案小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
4267.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
4270.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
以一個準將來當統籌的指揮官 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
4270.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
4272.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
來跨軍種 跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
4272.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
4275.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
統合所有無人機的防禦 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
4275.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
4277.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
跟所有無人機相關的作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
4277.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
4279.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
我不知道就這個點 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
4279.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
4282.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
那因為顧部長過去在國安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
4282.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
4283.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
現在在國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
4283.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
4285.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
那你大概整個層面都看過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
4285.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
4287.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
國安會現在負責防衛任性 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
4287.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
4289.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
事實上很早就開始了 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
4289.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
4291.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
對於整合的部份 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
4291.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
4292.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
部長有什麼想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
4294.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
4296.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
報告委員這個跟委員做個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
4296.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
4298.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
因為我們無人機跟反制無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
4298.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
4299.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
系統的這個部份 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
4299.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
4301.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
事實上我們起步是比較晚的 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
4301.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
4303.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
那所以在初期的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
4303.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
4305.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
我們基本上是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
4305.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
4307.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
邊試邊走的一個狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
4307.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
4309.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
那從兩年前開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
4309.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
4311.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
也就是我們在推動上一版的 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
4311.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
4315.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
就是我們1.25兆特別預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
4315.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
4316.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
在那個之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
4316.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
4318.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
我們針對這個系統的部份 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
4318.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
4320.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
無人機跟反無人機系統的部份 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
4320.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
4321.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
做了三個切割 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
4321.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
4323.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
第一個就直管的部份 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
4323.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
4325.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
我們在這個部份 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
4325.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
4327.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
開始導入人工智慧 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
4327.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
4329.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
那除了針對單一的 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
4329.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
4331.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
就是那種小型的單兵的 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
4331.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
4333.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
你已經納入直管了沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
4333.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
4335.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
已經納入直管了沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
4335.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
4337.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
已經納入直管了沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
4337.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
4340.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
那已經納入了才有所謂的AI加進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
4340.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
4343.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
所以我們現在反制無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
4343.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
4344.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
跟指揮無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
4344.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
4346.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
反制無人機已經納入直管了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
4346.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
4348.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
你們設備有了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
4348.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
4350.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
包委員那個是我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
4350.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
4353.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
先要把那個系統建立起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
4353.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
4355.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
那因為目前是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
4355.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
4356.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
所以我問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
4356.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
4358.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
你現在還沒有那個系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
4358.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
4360.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
不要被AI迷惑住 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
4360.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
4362.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
AI當然很好很先進科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
4362.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
4365.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
AI是先進科技加在我們直管系統這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
4365.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
4367.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
那你現在直管系統還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
4367.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
4369.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
我今天只是提一個概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
4369.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
4372.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
就是說我希望部長去思考看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
4372.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
4374.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
因為連美軍都在摸索 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
4374.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
4376.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
我沒有說美軍一定對喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
4376.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
4378.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
美軍也在摸索 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
4378.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
4380.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
比方說我在擊殺的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
4380.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
4382.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
怎麼樣用合理的武器去擊殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
4382.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
4384.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
避免用一個三四百萬美金的 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
4384.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
4386.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
去打一個五萬美金的 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
4386.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
4388.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
那他們提出一個概念就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
4388.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
4389.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
整合一個單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
4389.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
4390.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
這整合有三個目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
4390.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
4393.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
第一個把防衛的體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
4393.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
4395.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
反制無人機的體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
4395.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
4397.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
從感知系統雷達等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
4397.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
4401.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
到直管到動用什麼裝備去軟硬殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
4401.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
4403.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
要把它整合在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
4403.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
4405.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
而且不是只整合軍方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
4405.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
4406.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
它都整合在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
4406.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
4407.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
第二個意義在哪裡呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
4408.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
4410.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
在迭代更新的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
4410.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
4412.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
透過這樣子的整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
4412.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
4414.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
可以用最快的速度 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
4414.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
4416.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
把最新的東西交到第一線的 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
4416.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
4417.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
首軍的身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
4418.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
4418.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
4419.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
4421.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
有時候你現在採用東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
4421.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
4422.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
要趕快迭代更新 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
4422.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
4425.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
所以按照原來分層負責分軍種 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
4425.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
4427.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
有時候要更新的速度會太慢 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
4427.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
4428.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
這是第二個目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
4428.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
4431.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
第三個目的也透過整合的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
4431.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
4433.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
建構軍民通 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
4433.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
4434.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
可以鼓勵大家趕快投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
4434.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
4436.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
建立更強的反制 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
4436.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
4438.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
或更強的矛與盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
4438.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
4440.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
那目前我們國軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
4441.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
4443.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
說這幾年切割三段 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
4443.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
4445.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
只要我們看到這幾年其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
4445.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
4447.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
有時候那個建置半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
4447.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
4449.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
有的現在標案結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
4449.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
4450.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
根本就不能用 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
4450.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
4451.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
就把它廢標了 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
4452.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
4453.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
那我們採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
4453.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
4455.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
我們不管軟硬砂 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
4455.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
4456.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
又分兩個處 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
4456.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
4457.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
然後我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
4457.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
4459.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
指管系統也還沒建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
4459.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
4461.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
然後我們跟非軍方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
4461.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
4463.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
防衛體系也沒有做整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
4464.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
4465.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
這令人家擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
4465.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
4466.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
我們是在最前緣 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
4466.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
4468.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
我們不是在後端可以慢慢來 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
4468.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
4470.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
所以請教部長或市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
4472.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
4474.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
我們大概多久可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
4474.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
4477.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
我們把防禦無人機的體系的 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
4477.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
4479.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
系統可以整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
4479.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
4480.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
有指管 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
4480.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
4481.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
然後開始可以作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
4481.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
4482.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
然後我第二個問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
4482.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
4484.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
如果你們現在手上都沒這個裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
4484.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
4487.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
你把這個科目納入漢光42號 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
4487.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
4488.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
面對群攻 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
4488.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
4490.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
或者面對無人機來協奏 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
4490.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
4491.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
你們是用什麼東西去 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
4491.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
4493.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
是用現有的雷達去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
4493.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
4494.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
然後現有的裝備去打嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
4495.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
4497.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
報告委員我們目前當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
4497.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
4499.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
用我們現有的勤儉針系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
4499.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
4500.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
去掌握無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
4500.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
4502.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
但是您剛剛問到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
4502.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
4505.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
我們具體的這些反無人機系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
4505.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
4506.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
比較大的規劃的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
4506.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
4507.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
什麼時候實現 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
4507.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
4509.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
4509.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
4510.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
如果我們幾個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
4510.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
4511.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
走得順利的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
4511.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
4513.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
應該明年委員就可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
4513.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
4514.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
我們幾個系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
4514.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
4516.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
陸陸續續的會浮上台 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
4516.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
4517.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
所以會納入指管 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
4517.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
4518.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
對那現在最重要的其實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
4518.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
4520.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
頻譜分割的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
4520.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
4521.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
頻譜分割的這一段 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
4521.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
4523.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
市長由連六這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
4523.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
4525.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
掌握各單位跟自動電軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
4525.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
4527.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
去做先習規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
4527.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
4528.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
因為這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
4528.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
4529.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
未來大量無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
4529.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
4530.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
如果進來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
4530.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
4532.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
頻譜管理的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
4532.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
4533.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
沒有做好無人機進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
4533.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
4535.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
就會遭遇到很大的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
4535.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
4536.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
4536.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
4538.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
連六這邊他也做了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
4538.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
4539.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
詳細的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
4539.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
4540.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
那如果委員有興趣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
4540.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
4541.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
頻譜這個好像也不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
4541.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
4543.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
只有我們國防部可以做決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
4543.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
4544.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
那當然不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
4544.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
4547.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
這是統合三軍以及直屬單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
4547.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
4548.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
有關單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
4548.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
4549.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
還有非軍方同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
4549.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
4550.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
都要嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
4550.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
4552.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
我們國防部本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
4552.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
4554.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
要先綠定我們的部分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
4554.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
4556.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
要跟蘇發部要跟NCC |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
4556.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
4558.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
那另外民用的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
4558.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
4559.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
我們會再跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
4559.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
4561.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
所以我不想問一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
4561.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
4562.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
大的政策方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
4562.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
4564.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
相關部會來進行協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
4564.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
4565.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
民用的或這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
4565.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
4567.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
非軍的防衛任性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
4567.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
4568.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
跟我們軍方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
4568.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
4569.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
將來會納入同一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
4569.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
4570.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
指管系統還是分治 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
4572.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
4573.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
我們現行還沒有將 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
4573.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
4574.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
民用的納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
4574.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
4576.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
我們的相關的指管系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
4576.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
4577.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
那我們的現行的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
4577.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
4580.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
指管系統正在進行當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
4580.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
4581.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
那如果沒有納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
4581.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
4582.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
包括剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
4582.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
4584.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
卓醫師有提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
4584.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
4586.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
這些火學中心等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
4586.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
4587.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
火學中心是一個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
4587.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
4589.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
我說沒有納入的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
4589.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
4590.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
他有他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
4590.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
4591.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
他們非軍方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
4591.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
4593.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
也在買那個軟硬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
4593.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
4594.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
他們也在買 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
4594.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
4595.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
仿製無人機東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
4595.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
4596.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
軟砂等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
4596.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
4597.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
那如果沒有納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
4597.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
4598.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
同一套指管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
4598.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
4600.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
軍方的東西進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
4601.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
4602.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
最後總要一個統合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
4602.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
4604.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
把自己的人拉下來怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
4604.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
4606.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
所以最重要的納入指管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
4606.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
4608.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
再來有關平埔的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
4608.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
4609.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
NCC現在的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
4609.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
4610.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
跟你們會不會是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
4610.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
4611.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
慢在那一段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
4613.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
4614.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
就跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
4614.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
4615.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
第一個就是我們先 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
4615.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
4616.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
針對非軍方的CIA |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
4616.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
4618.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
各關鍵基礎設施的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
4618.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
4620.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
是由我們再負責整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
4620.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
4621.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
那在明年底前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
4621.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
4622.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
會完成整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
4622.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4623.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
那他的大稀土會是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
4624.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
4625.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
消防署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
4625.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
4626.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
因為直管體系的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
4626.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
4628.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
所以你整合防禦系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
4628.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
4630.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
然後會整合到一個C2的中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
4630.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
4632.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
對一個大C2裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
4632.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
4634.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
那這個大C2整合完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
4634.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4635.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
後面看什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
4635.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
4637.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
軍方同意去借接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
4637.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4638.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
這個中間的界面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4638.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4639.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
我們是保持在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
4639.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4640.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
4640.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
4641.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
什麼時候需要借接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
4641.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4643.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
要看整個戰備等級的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
4643.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4645.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
最後目標還是要借接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
4645.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4648.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
另外軍方現在本身的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
4648.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4649.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
我們已經把 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4649.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4650.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
中科院產製的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4650.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4652.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
所有Counter UIS的系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4652.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4655.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
能夠把訊息直接傳到TAC |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4655.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4658.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
所以所有無人機來襲的訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4658.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4660.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
是可以透過TAC來去看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
4660.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4662.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
這回到我剛才問的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4662.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4663.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
我們現在關於42號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4663.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
4665.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
有無人機的攻防的演練的科目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4665.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4667.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
所以你們現在目獲的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
4667.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4669.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
用中科院的既有裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
4669.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
4671.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
去查資傳到TAC系統裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
4673.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
4674.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
4674.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
4676.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
TAC當然它的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
4676.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
4678.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
勤監系統當然不是只有無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
4678.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
4683.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
但如何運用無人機先行目獲之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
4683.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
4685.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
然後再做識別之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
4685.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
4686.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
然後再做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
4686.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
4688.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
這個會是在演練的範圍裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
4688.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
4691.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
那我們現有的裝備能力充足嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
4693.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
4695.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
你要講充足這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
4695.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
4698.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
當然就不能夠說我們現在充足 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
4698.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
4700.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
但是我們還是要進行演練 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
4700.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
4702.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
那我們當然要利用既有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
4702.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
4703.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
這些裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
4703.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
4705.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
我們既有的已經有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
4705.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
4707.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
那你們這次42號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
4707.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
4710.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
有群攻、封群的攻擊嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
4712.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
4714.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
就是看我們就統裁部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
4714.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
4715.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
他有設計的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
4715.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
4717.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
那有狀況我們平常演練的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
4717.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
4719.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
也有把這個納入到我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
4719.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
4721.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
國軍現在有能力應付封群攻擊嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
4723.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
4725.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
就跟如同部長剛剛所說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
4725.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
4727.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
我們就利用現有的裝備做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
4727.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
4728.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
你沒有回答問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
4728.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
4730.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
我說以國軍現有能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
4730.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
4732.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
有能力應付封群攻擊嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
4733.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
4734.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
4735.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
4736.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
這不足的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
4736.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
4737.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
其實我們在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
4737.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
4738.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
很多國防運算一直延宕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
4738.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
4740.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
其實就導致不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
4740.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
4741.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
我沒有要怪你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
4742.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
4744.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
因為這次很多都是新的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
4744.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
4745.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
昨天沒有發生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
4745.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
4746.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
明天就發生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
4746.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
4748.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
我現在說以這次漢光42號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
4748.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
4750.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
有這個科目我覺得是正確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
4750.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
4751.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
我是給正面肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
4751.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
4752.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4752.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
4754.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
你要根據敵方的情形來做研判嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
4754.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4755.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
對方有這個能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
4755.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
4756.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
把納入威脅是對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
4756.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
4758.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
我們有能力處理封群攻擊嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
4760.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4763.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
我想如果工具軍真的下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
4763.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
4767.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
我不曉得是多飽和的一個攻擊模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
4767.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4770.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
那我們黃衛軍現在當然就是利用我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
4770.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
4771.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
按照漢光演習 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
4771.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
4773.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
就是我們用現有的裝備來進行應對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
4773.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4775.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
那如果沒有辦法進行應對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
4775.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
4777.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
我們會根據我們驗證所得到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
4777.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4779.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
這些相關的資料跟參數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
4779.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4782.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
我們來進行後續的這個規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4782.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4784.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
就這一塊我最後建議國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4784.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4786.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
你們驗證完 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
4786.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4788.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
可能會有不足或者需要補強的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
4788.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
4790.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
那以往這都是軍方資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
4790.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
4792.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
作為明年漢光在操演 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
4792.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
4794.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
在二月份響電的時候再出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4794.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4796.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
我建議這一塊該機密就機密 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4796.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4799.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
適度的要讓國會參與了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4800.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
4803.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
我到現在還堅信在我們的立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4804.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
4806.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
國防安全沒有黨派之分才對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4806.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4808.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
如果那邊有個Gap在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4809.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4812.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
你讓我們國軍弟兄就缺了這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
4813.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
4815.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
然後我在那邊說你這個有沒有能力足不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
4815.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
4816.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
4817.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4819.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
就問題不在你們那邊了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
4819.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
4821.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
所以如果你們今年的驗證結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
4821.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
4823.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
哪裡有不足的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
4823.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
4826.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
如果不涉及機密該讓社會大眾納稅人知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
4826.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
4828.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
就該讓社會大眾知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
4828.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
4830.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
該讓國防委員會知道就讓我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4830.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
4833.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
該保密就保用機密報告也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4833.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4835.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
讓我們知道說不足在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4835.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4837.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
所以我要建置建置建置這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4837.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4839.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
所以有什麼什麼預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4839.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4841.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
這個時候就會讓所有事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4841.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4843.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
經由驗證得到一個合理結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4843.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4845.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
這個是我給國防部的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4845.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4847.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
而不是說需求到底是從哪裡看來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4847.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4849.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
其實從這裡就應該看出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4849.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4852.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
那目前為止以這幾年我們看到國防部的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4853.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4857.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
其實我不太認為我們現在去反制無人機的能力是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4858.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
4860.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
是足夠的了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
4859.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4860.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
我不會認為現在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4860.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4862.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
我知道你們是盡力以現有裝備去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
4862.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
4864.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
但是這個不足夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
4864.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4867.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
其實會導致很多安全的威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
4867.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
4868.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
這個是我們擔憂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
4868.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4872.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
所以部長有沒有可能把驗證結果不足的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
4872.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4875.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
要轉換成國防預算採購裝備科研案等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
4875.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4878.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
讓我們委員會可以了解或參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
4879.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4884.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
我想演習就是找出那個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
4884.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
4890.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
那有經由這個驗證得出問題之所在之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
4890.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
4895.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
那麼我們才能夠做好下一步的一個規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
4895.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
4898.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
那委員如果願意了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
4898.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
4903.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
我想我們有在看有涉及機密或不涉及機密 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
4903.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
4905.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
我倒不是講我個人要了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
4905.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4906.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
4906.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
4910.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
你們不足最後可能要變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
4910.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
4911.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
我要補強什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
4911.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
4913.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
它會變成國防預算的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
4913.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
4915.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
那這一塊倒是國防部可以主動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
4915.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4917.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
請看哪一位找委員願意排說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4917.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4920.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
來我們經過漢官司12號驗證的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
4920.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4923.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
哪方面能力不足需要補強什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4923.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4926.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
所以我們有什麼預算拜託各位委員支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4926.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4927.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
大概簡單邏輯在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4927.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4929.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
那如果國防部認為需要的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4929.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4930.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
其實你們可以發動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4930.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4934.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
讓委員會適度的了解軍方現在能力不足在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4934.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4937.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
那當然我們的不足未必要讓威脅方知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4937.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4939.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
所以該機密就機密我可以接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4939.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4942.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
但是在預算的行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4943.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4945.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
達成共識也許這是一個方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4945.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4947.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
這讓部裡面做參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4947.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4948.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4952.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4953.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4954.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4957.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
我們接下來請沈柏楊委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4970.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4972.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
謝謝主席有請部長謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4972.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4973.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
請顧部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4981.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4982.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4982.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4986.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
剛剛其實有提到今天是漢光的第一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4986.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4987.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4988.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4990.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
我是覺得今天問快一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4990.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4992.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
因為我覺得漢光應該是對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4992.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4995.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
國防部來講是非常重要的一個日子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4995.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4998.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
今天這一個專報我想說就儘速的進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4998.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
5001.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
那第一個就是我想先問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
5001.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
5004.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
因為第一個當然漢光的這個前夕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
5004.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
5007.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
大概七月底的時候我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
5007.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
5012.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
這個中共他們有這一個他們的國防部有兩則新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
5012.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
5014.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
一個就在講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
5014.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
5017.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
這個國軍寧願賠錢也提前退伍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
5017.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
5019.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
然後說全民防衛是我的賣命 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
5019.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
5021.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
另外一個就是在講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
5021.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
5024.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
這個網路降速是製造戰爭焦慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
5024.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
5027.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
我們先不管他講的這些內容為何 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
5027.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
5029.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
很明顯的就是他在針對漢光 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
5029.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
5031.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
就是說今天這個漢光 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
5031.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
5036.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
這個準備了以後他們就要製造一些反面的消息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
5036.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
5038.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
那這些消息其實我覺得都會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
5038.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
5041.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
一個是動搖軍心就是第一則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
5041.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
5044.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
第二個網路降速這個是他想要動搖民心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
5044.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
5047.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
那台灣的媒體也都能也把它報導出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
5047.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
5050.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
所以我在想說就針對像這樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
5050.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
5052.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
目前因為漢光今天是第一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
5052.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
5054.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
那在這個第一天之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
5054.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
5057.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
國防部是怎麼去應對像他們這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
5057.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
5060.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
他們這樣散播消息的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
5060.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
5062.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
會長所現在要說明這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
5064.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
5067.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
昨天他們就在我們漢光演習的前夕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
5067.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
5069.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
實施了聯合戰備警訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
5069.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
5073.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
那我在這邊要說是製造戰爭焦慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
5073.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
5075.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
應該不是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
5075.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
5079.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
那實施這樣子的一個聯合戰備警訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
5079.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
5085.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
然後另外有共建不斷的連續性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
5085.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
5089.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
不停的去圍繞著我們的台海周邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
5089.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
5093.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
現在甚至海景在我們的東邊海域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
5093.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
5097.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
不斷的在力行這種常態性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
5097.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
5102.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
應該常態性的這樣子的一個巡邏 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
5102.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
5105.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
跟一些相關的一些作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
5105.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
5109.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
我想這個事實上製造這樣的戰爭焦慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
5109.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
5114.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
應該來破壞區域和平穩定的狀態的是中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
5114.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
5120.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
那有關他們會做一些像這樣子的認知作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
5120.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
5124.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
那我們只是必須要一再的去說明就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
5126.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
5129.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
持續強化我們的實戰化訓練部隊的戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
5129.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
5132.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
然後我們的要驚使我們的後備動員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
5132.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
5135.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
跟我們的全民防衛任性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
5135.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
5139.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
然後來呈現我們應該有的準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
5139.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
5143.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
形成嚇阻是我們現在最大的努力方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
5143.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
5145.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
那至於其他有一些像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
5145.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
5148.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
比如說講說領域賠償提前退伍等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
5148.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
5152.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
我想我在上一次的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
5152.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
5155.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
還是我記得已經有說過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
5155.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
5159.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
我們總體來看就是整體的流營率是提升的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
5159.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
5163.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
那整體的自願役的人數也是逐年增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
5163.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
5166.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
所以你不能夠說沒有提前退伍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
5166.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
5170.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
但是我們看了我國防部這邊看的是一個趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
5170.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
5172.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
也就是說整體的趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
5172.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
5176.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
這個不適合提前退伍的人數是下降的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
5176.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
5179.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
從114年比較113年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
5179.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
5181.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
或者是今年比較去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
5181.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
5184.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
那自願役的人數也是之前要增加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
5184.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
5188.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
所以流營的意願跟能力是有一個穩定成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
5188.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
5194.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
我想這個是一個我們看到的一個事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
5194.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
5201.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
這個我想我們不會去讓我們的事實不去呈現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
5201.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
5205.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
那至於網路降速的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
5205.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
5211.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
我想國軍的漢光演習本來就是要在不同的情境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
5211.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
5217.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
想定時下去進行最嚴苛的一個狀況應處 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
5217.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
5220.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
那這個我們一再強調就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
5220.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
5224.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
如果在通訊這個部分就是強調PACE的觀念 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
5224.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
5227.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
就是說我們有主要替代的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
5227.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
5231.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
然後有應變的然後緊急的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
5231.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
5239.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
那這種的概念本來就在我們應該要演練的通訊的任性的範圍之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
5239.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
5243.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
那因為全民防衛任性的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
5243.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
5247.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
有涉及到說要讓國內也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
5247.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
5251.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
在這個重大災害或者是這個重大緊急狀況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
5251.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
5253.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
會可能面臨的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
5253.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
5257.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
那我想這個目的是要讓民眾能夠警覺到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
5257.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
5260.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
是有這個情形可能會發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
5260.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
5265.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
那我想這個要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
5266.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
5266.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
5267.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
5270.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
要行動網路降速 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
5270.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
5272.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
然後要到達什麼樣的一個程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
5272.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
5274.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
要做什麼樣的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
5274.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
5279.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
這個就是由行政院這邊然後來跨做跨部會的一個決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
5279.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
5283.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
那廣部就是這邊來配合來做辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
5283.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
5284.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
5284.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
5287.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
那我剛剛想說讓這個部長把這個講完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
5287.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
5290.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
就是因為第一個他是漢光第一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
5290.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
5293.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
那對方就簡單來講他就是想要製造 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
5293.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
5296.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
這樣的一個不管是軍心還是民心的動盪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
5296.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
5298.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
所以我覺得我們在第一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
5298.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
5301.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
甚至在前一天的時候我們就予以這樣的一個回擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
5301.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
5304.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
我認為這樣是正確的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
5304.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
5306.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
那他當然他一定都會先提一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
5306.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
5309.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
比如說第二則他說有網路的降速 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
5309.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
5311.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
確實我們本來就是要配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
5311.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
5313.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
我們要知道說如果今天降速的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
5313.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
5315.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
我們該怎麼去應處 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
5315.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
5317.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
但是後面那句話製造戰爭焦慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
5317.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
5319.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
剛剛部長其實講得很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
5319.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
5320.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
就是做賊喊抓賊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
5320.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
5323.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
我們明明製造戰爭焦慮的是對方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
5323.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
5325.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
根本就不是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
5325.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
5329.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
那第一則就是這個賠錢提前退伍這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
5329.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
5332.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
過往的專報其實這個我也質詢過蠻多次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
5332.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
5335.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
就是說事實到底為何其實是應該要被講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
5335.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
5338.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
對方是故意忽略了很多的基礎事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
5338.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
5340.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
去散佈這樣的一個訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
5340.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
5343.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
那這個其實都是作戰的一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
5343.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
5346.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
如果我們能夠予以這個快速的回擊的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
5346.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
5349.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
我覺得這也是對我來說這也是演習的一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
5349.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
5354.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
對反認知作戰確實是我們現在一個重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
5354.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
5356.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
也是國軍的任務之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
5356.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
5359.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
那這個我接下來想要問這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
5359.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
5363.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
就是這個是紐時這一個最近的報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
5363.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
5366.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
這個報導就是說這個台人港人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
5366.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
5370.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
跟這個五眼聯盟有被獨立的標籤列館 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
5370.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
5374.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
這個內容其實我覺得看起來是有點深入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
5374.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
5377.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
那這為什麼會跟國防部有關係呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
5377.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
5380.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
是因為之前也有一個類似的這個新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
5380.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
5382.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
我覺得跟這個搭配在一起看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
5382.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
5385.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
看起來就是這個他到這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
5385.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
5388.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
有人到中國去旅遊的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
5388.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
5392.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
結果這一個中國去問他的父母的身分證字號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
5392.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
5396.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
那他這個父母其實是跟軍方有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
5396.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
5400.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
然後所以對方還說你把父母的身分證字號報錯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
5400.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
5404.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
那這一個如果跟紐時的這個報告合在一起看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
5404.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
5406.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
我們應該就會發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
5406.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
5409.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
他這個現在監控的範圍其實非常的大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
5409.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
5412.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
那當然我們現在軍人如果要出國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
5412.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
5414.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
不要說去中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
5414.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
5418.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
出國這件事情在我們軍人相關的規範其實非常嚴格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
5418.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
5422.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
但是現在有另外一種狀況是軍人的眷屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
5422.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
5424.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
他的兄弟姐妹啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
5424.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
5427.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
他的子女啊父母啊等等之類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
5427.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
5429.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
那他們現在去旅遊的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
5429.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
5432.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
間接的也有可能遭遇到這些風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
5432.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
5434.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
所以目前來講我知道這個陸委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
5434.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
5437.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
最主要是在主責整體國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
5437.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
5439.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
這個去中國的這個風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
5439.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
5442.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
那如果說今天是跟軍人有關的人事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
5442.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
5444.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
那他不是軍方的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
5444.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
5447.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
那目前來講國防部有沒有什麼對應的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
5447.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
5448.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
那這個部長簡單回答就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
5448.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
5450.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
因為我今天不太想超過時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
5450.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
5452.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
因為今天畢竟是漢光 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
5452.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
5457.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
我們是有一個國軍官兵建署反制中共接觸的注意事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
5457.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
5460.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
那我們當然現役的他去世有受到管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
5460.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
5463.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
那眷屬的部分我們沒有辦法來做管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
5463.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
5468.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
但是我們會教育就是說他們能夠提高警覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
5468.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
5470.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
那如果遭中共接觸的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
5470.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
5474.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
那就希望他們能夠回國以後立即告知 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
5474.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
5478.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
來向我們所屬的保防部門來反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
5478.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
5481.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
我們現在能夠做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
5481.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
5483.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
好 謝謝補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
5483.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
5485.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
後面這個等到漢光完以後再問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
5485.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
5489.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
因為畢竟我們的演習現在基本上有時候都基本上越來越多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
5489.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
5490.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
那也是不得已的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
5490.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
5492.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
因為中國的威脅擺在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
5492.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
5494.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
但是一些喘息的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
5494.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
5498.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
一些我之前一直提到的這個無法休假的一些補償辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
5498.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
5501.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
這個等到我們整個演習結束以後我們再來詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
5501.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
5503.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
畢竟本來這應該是休會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
5503.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
5504.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
然後現在沒有休會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
5504.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
5506.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
然後今天是漢光然後又有專報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
5506.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
5507.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
希望我們今天趕快結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
5507.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
5510.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
讓這個國軍能夠專注在漢光演習 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
5510.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
5511.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
5513.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
5514.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
5514.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
5518.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
接下來請王奕川委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
5526.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
5527.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
5527.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
5528.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
5528.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
5529.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
請顧部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
5534.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
5535.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
5535.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
5537.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
請看其他同仁要協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
5537.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
5541.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
第一個就是說我們的不管就是說這個志願役 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
5541.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
5544.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
志願役的軍官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
5545.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
5547.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
他現在在做志願役嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
5547.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
5548.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
那他總有家人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
5549.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
5550.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
那家人呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
5550.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
5553.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
剛剛沈柏楊委員提到就是說對這些家人的這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
5553.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
5555.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
也許對這些家人的滲透 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
5555.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
5557.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
我關心的題目是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
5558.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
5560.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
對這些家人的照顧啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
5561.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
5563.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
我們國軍做了什麼樣的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
5563.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
5565.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
國安部做什麼樣的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
5565.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
5568.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
就是說他現在軍中可能在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
5568.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
5569.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
做這個中校啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
5569.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
5570.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
做少尉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
5570.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
5571.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
做中尉嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
5571.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
5573.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
可以處理事情一堆啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
5574.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
5576.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
處理事情一堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
5576.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
5580.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
他可能有家裡的這個比較夫妻之間的課題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
5580.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
5581.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
小朋友的課題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
5581.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
5583.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
父母生病的課題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
5583.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
5586.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
他就每天為了這個都操心啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
5586.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
5588.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
阿不惜就處理到腳底回來啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
5588.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
5591.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
說什麼人又怎樣什麼人又怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
5591.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
5595.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
就我們的國安部對這些志願役的軍官啊或士官們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
5597.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
5599.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
他們在這個服役的期間啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
5599.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
5601.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
對他們的家人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
5601.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
5604.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
這一塊有沒有什麼特別的這個照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
5604.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
5608.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
阿不每天都為了家庭的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
5608.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
5609.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
歡樂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
5610.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
5612.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
他也沒什麼心情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
5612.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
5614.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
好好來做這個兵啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
5614.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
5615.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
5616.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
5618.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
政戰局應該有一些專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
5618.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
5620.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
5623.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
5625.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
國安好我是政戰局局長石順文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
5625.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
5626.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
要跟您報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
5626.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
5629.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
就是有關於包含現在眷屬的一些照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
5629.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
5630.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
軍人家庭的一些照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
5630.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
5635.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
包含現在有關於0到6歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
5635.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
5638.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
那或者是6歲到還沒有上小學之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
5638.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
5640.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
我們現在都有研擬一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
5640.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
5643.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
在教育上面的一些補助措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
5643.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
5645.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
那麼另外針對0到2歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
5645.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
5648.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
我們現在有一個就是非營利幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
5648.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
5652.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
主要是針對選進前的一些小孩的一個照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
5652.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
5654.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
軍人家庭的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
5654.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
5658.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
那麼現在我們也在規劃就是0到2歲幼兒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
5658.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
5661.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
這啦這你們本隊就在做啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
5661.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
5662.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
我是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
5662.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
5666.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
他就去當這個志願役了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
5666.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
5669.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
那家裡頭總是會有一些大大小小的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
5669.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
5672.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
常常也希望能夠請他回來處理啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
5672.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
5674.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
常常看到的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
5675.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
5677.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
家裡的老人家長大了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
5677.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
5679.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
家裡的小朋友還怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
5679.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
5682.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
家裡的兄弟又惹事了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
5682.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
5684.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
這些我們對這些軍官們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
5684.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
5686.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
這些軍事官們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
5686.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
5688.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
他們在這個服役期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
5688.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
5691.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
如果過程中經常會遇到這樣的困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
5691.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
5693.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
我們有沒有什麼樣的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
5693.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
5695.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
能夠協助他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
5695.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
5697.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
不然等一下不時要幫你請假 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
5697.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
5699.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
我們總是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
5699.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
5701.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
我們家裡有事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
5701.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
5703.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
這個總是請教有一個規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
5703.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
5705.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
我們沒有什麼樣的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
5705.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
5707.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
對國軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
5707.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
5709.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
我只講對國軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
5709.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
5711.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
特別的這樣的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
5711.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
5714.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
我是國防部法律事務司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
5714.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
5716.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
那我們對國軍在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
5717.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
5719.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
發生家庭有糾紛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
5719.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
5721.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
或是跟外界有相關的訴訟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
5721.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
5723.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
或是民事或刑事上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
5723.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
5725.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
我們國防部有一個公聘律師的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
5725.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
5727.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
我不是說他本人啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
5727.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
5729.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
對家屬也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
5729.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
5731.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
家屬也是我們服務的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
5731.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
5732.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
部長我先問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
5732.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
5734.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
部長為什麼會這樣提喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
5734.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
5736.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
因為如果這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
5736.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
5738.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
我們的軍官沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
5738.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
5740.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
有這個好好的處理或協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
5740.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
5742.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
就跟我們國防部在外面協助他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
5742.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
5744.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
那弄到最後的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
5744.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
5746.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
可能他們休息比較少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5746.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
5748.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
然後到最後就會影響到這個軍官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
5750.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
5752.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
最後他們休息有可能去用滲透 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
5752.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
5754.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
我記一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
5754.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
5756.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
他們休息過年大家吃團圓飯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
5756.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
5758.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
說哥哥你最近補隊了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
5758.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
5760.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
有什麼特別的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
5760.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
5762.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
你最近聽說你又損隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
5762.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
5764.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
你損隊後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
5764.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
5766.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
現在都在做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
5766.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
5768.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
看你很忙很少回來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
5768.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
5770.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
就透過這樣的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
5770.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
5772.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
他也許就掌握了一些訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
5772.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
5774.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
5774.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
5776.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
對軍官本人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
5776.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
5778.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
本人當然裡面會有一些教育的這個模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
5778.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
5780.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
但是對他的家人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
5780.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
5782.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
不管是上下的父母 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
5782.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
5784.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
或者是這個兄弟姊妹 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
5784.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
5786.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
或者是他的家裡的小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
5786.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
5788.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
這一些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
5788.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
5790.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
我們有沒有什麼一套的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
5790.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
5792.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
國防部做這個軍官的後盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
5792.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
5794.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
敢協助讓他不要去困擾這些課題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
5794.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
5796.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
是 我想委員指導的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
5796.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
5798.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
我了解了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
5798.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
5800.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
這個我想他家庭方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
5800.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
5802.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
有任何的困擾就會影響他本人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
5802.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
5804.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
那所以他本人有任何的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
5804.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
5806.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
這個困擾他只要反應到軍方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
5806.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
5808.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
軍方都會願意來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
5808.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
5810.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
那就看各種不同的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
5810.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
5812.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
財務的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
5812.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
5814.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
如果他有任何的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
5814.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
5816.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
我們也會來理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
5816.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
5818.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
比如說我們現在有推出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
5818.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
5820.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
急難貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
5820.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
5822.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
那這個部分也可以來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
5822.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
5824.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
因為他不會講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
5824.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
5826.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
有的對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
5826.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
5828.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
現在的委員講到重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
5828.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
5830.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
就是說他不會講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
5830.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
5832.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
有時候他的家人也不願意講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
5832.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
5834.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
或者他本人也不太願意講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
5834.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
5836.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
那如果他真的有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
5836.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
5838.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
形成壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
5838.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
5840.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
或者是一些困擾的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
5840.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
5842.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
我想一方面我們的福島幹部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
5842.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
5844.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
應該要主動了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
5844.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5846.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
那另外一個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
5846.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5848.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
我們要有一個好的辛苦制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
5848.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5850.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
因為我們有民間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5850.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5852.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
那他可以去跟民間的辛苦制度來聊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
5852.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
5854.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
但是確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5854.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5856.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
還是有一點就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5856.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5858.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
他要是真的什麼都不肯講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
5858.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
5860.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
5860.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5862.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
我們就要從他的工作上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5862.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5864.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
工作上面的表現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5864.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5866.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
他有沒有產生一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5866.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5868.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5869.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5871.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
狀況的一個呈現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5871.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5873.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
然後去進行關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5873.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5875.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
這個可能再想一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5875.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5877.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
因為大家都有家人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5877.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
5879.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
他會不好意思講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5879.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5881.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
怕說出來漏氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5881.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5883.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
所以怎麼樣去有這樣的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5883.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5885.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
提早的發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5885.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5887.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
提早的來做協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5887.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5889.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
第二個你們在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5889.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5891.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
這一些跟政治作戰有關的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5891.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5893.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
我看你們會找一些講師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
5893.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
5895.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
來上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
5895.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5897.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
請問部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
5897.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5899.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
這些上課的教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5900.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5902.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
對國防部來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5902.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5904.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
相關的單位來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5904.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
有沒有一個審議的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5908.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
還是這個老師這個教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5908.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5910.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
長期做兩岸關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
5910.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
5912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
就固定都請他來上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
5912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5914.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
他也說得不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5914.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5916.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
也很受歡迎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
5916.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5918.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
可是也許他的這個談的這些課題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5918.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5920.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
現在已經都弄亂了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5920.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5922.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
或者是他講的那些內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5922.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5924.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
即使國防部有更新相關的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5924.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5926.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
他還是拿舊的再講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5925.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5927.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
這些狀況我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
5927.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
5929.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
在上課的這些教材上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
5929.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
5931.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
有沒有相關的審議機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
5931.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
5933.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
還是完全就讓這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
5933.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
5935.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
老師這個從外面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
5935.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
5937.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
從外面聘來的老師上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
5937.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
5939.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
就尊重他上課的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
5940.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
5942.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
是不是先 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
5942.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
5944.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
委員好我是政戰局委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
5944.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
5946.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
新戰處處長跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
5946.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
5948.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
有關老師在上課之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
5948.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
5950.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
其實我們都會先研擬他希望他上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
5950.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
5952.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
講授的一些重點跟主軸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
5952.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
5954.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
然後簽證核准了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
5954.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
5956.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
我們會找老師來研討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
5956.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
5958.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
然後老師的這些教案我們後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
5958.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
5960.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
會有我們像不管是舉光原地也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
5960.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
5962.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
或是說各項的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
5962.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
5964.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
國軍在推動的專案教育的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
5964.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
5966.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
我們政戰局都會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
5966.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
5968.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
邀請專家學者跟我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
5968.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5970.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
部內的長官相關的聯參 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5970.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5972.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
跟我們共同的審查以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5972.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5974.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
就事後嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5973.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5975.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
上課前就會做了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5975.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5977.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
不要說上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5977.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5979.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
今天講了30張投影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
5979.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
5981.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
這30張投影片事先你們都看過還是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5981.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5983.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
我們都會先請老師提供給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5983.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5985.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
他的授課的簡報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5985.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5987.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
跟這個內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5987.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5989.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
讓我們來做一個了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5989.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5991.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
那他如果上課這個過程講述的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5991.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5993.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
已經跟我們國軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5993.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5995.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
跟國防部的這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5995.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5997.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
已經有一點偏掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5997.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5999.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
事後的寫需要再溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5999.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
6001.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
好謝謝那我今天就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
6001.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
6003.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
6005.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
6007.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
6007.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
6009.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
接下來請羅美琳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
6009.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
6011.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
羅美琳委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
6011.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
6013.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
請紐許廷委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
6018.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
6020.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
謝謝主席顧部長有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
6020.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
6022.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
請顧部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
6026.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
6028.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
顧部長早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
6028.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
6032.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
今天我們要討論這個國軍官兵的精神戰力的建構 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
6032.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
6034.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
跟心理的韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
6034.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
6036.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
這當然很好不過我們就有話直說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
6036.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
6038.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
這個軍裡面流傳一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
6038.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
6040.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
這大概是大家從小聽到大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
6040.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
6042.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
也聽很多前輩講過合理的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
6042.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
6044.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
叫訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
6044.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
6046.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
不合理的要求叫磨練 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
6046.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
6048.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
部長你認同這句話嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
6048.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
6050.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
我們現在應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
6050.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
6052.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
推動一個合理的管教吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
6053.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
6055.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
是阿 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
6055.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
6057.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
這句話軍裡面文化長長久久 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
6057.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
6059.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
傳來的一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
6059.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
6061.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
但本席認為怎麼樣來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
6061.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
6063.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
要因應時代的一些變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
6063.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
6065.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
做一些合理的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
6065.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
6067.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
在資訊不透明的傳統很保守的環境之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
6067.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
6069.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
或許這句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
6069.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
6071.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
有一定的穿透力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
6071.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
6073.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
但現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
6073.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
6075.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
現代戰爭軍裡面文化的逐步改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
6075.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
6077.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
你總是有必要切合社會氛圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
6077.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
6079.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
我想部長不反對這樣的方向吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
6079.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
6081.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
要做合理的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
6081.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
6083.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
我們盡量朝向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
6083.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
6085.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
6085.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
6087.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
訓練當然是要嚴格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
6087.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
6089.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
管教要合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
6089.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
6091.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
所有的一切 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
6091.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
6093.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
作為都是為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
6093.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
6095.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
強化我們的戰備能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
6095.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
6097.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
只要圍繞著這個核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
6097.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
6099.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
有效達成當然都是好手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
6099.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
6101.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
本席要強調的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
6101.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
6103.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
你用過去的這種強壓式的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
6103.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
6105.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
不見得是好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
6105.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
6107.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
反而是要用因應社會氛圍的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
6107.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
6109.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
大家對國軍的最新期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
6109.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
6111.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
所以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
6111.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
6113.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
很多人都談今天要談說什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
6113.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
6115.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
如何建構精神戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
6115.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
6117.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
你要上多少課啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
6117.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
6119.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
你要給他怎麼樣一個觀念啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
6119.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
6121.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
等等等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
6121.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
6123.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
但我還是認為啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
6123.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
6125.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
所有的核心不外乎幾件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
6125.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
6127.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
讓當兵有榮譽感 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
6127.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
6129.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
一個叫做經濟上沒有壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
6129.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
6131.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
可以放心的去從事軍旅生涯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
6131.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
6133.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
另外一個是我的工作環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
6133.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
6135.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
他就像一個職場一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
6135.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
6137.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
他可能比較特殊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
6137.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
6139.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
所以這份工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
6139.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
6141.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
這份工作環境要能夠合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
6141.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
6143.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
所以分別從這幾件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
6143.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
6145.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
來跟部長做一下探討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
6145.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
6147.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
剛剛很多委員都很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
6147.97 |
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中共的滲透怎麼怎麼 |
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講了很多形而上的觀念的問題 |
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這當然國軍要注意的 |
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這本來不反對這樣的事情 |
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但是幾件最近爆發出來 |
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被滲透的事情 |
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其實不外乎共同指向同一個原因 |
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其實就是經濟因素 |
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我基於不管是官兵個人也好 |
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或者怎麼樣也好 |
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經濟上的一些短期的需求 |
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或者是缺口 |
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不管透過家屬也好 |
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透過個人也好 |
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他事宜小惠 |
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那就成為滲透的破口 |
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所以你制標的角度 |
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你當然要研辦 |
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你當然要防堵 |
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你當然要上課 |
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6189.97 |
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精神喊話 |
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這都沒有錯的 |
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但是治本之道不外乎別的 |
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6195.97 |
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包含自願意加薪的相關預算 |
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編進去的沒有請部長回答 |
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我想我們朝向 |
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不斷的調整 |
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6203.97 |
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檢討調整我們相關的 |
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這個加急 |
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6207.97 |
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軍公教的待遇的一體調整 |
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6209.97 |
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這個行政院已經有說明 |
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另外就我們國軍 |
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各項的加急我們依照勤務 |
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繁重的這個程度 |
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我們會來持續檢討 |
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所以有編還沒編 |
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6221.97 |
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行政院那個部分就屬於軍公教的一體 |
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加薪的部分 |
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6225.97 |
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沒有按照當初通過軍人待遇 |
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6227.97 |
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條例的這樣子的條文去編列預算嗎 |
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6229.97 |
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當時 |
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有做過一個決議就是我們六個月內 |
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要提出 |
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6235.97 |
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就這個部分我們已經跟人總 |
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6237.97 |
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已經在檢討 |
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6237.97 |
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6239.97 |
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我們定案之後會跟各界來做一個說明 |
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6239.97 |
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6241.97 |
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按照116年預算編列的期程 |
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大概就是7月底8月 |
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大家完成你所謂的行政 |
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6247.97 |
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內部的一個整合 |
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8月下半會期做準備 |
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所以現在已經是法院了 |
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這一年的預算經歷了多少耽擱 |
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6255.97 |
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當然就是因為軍人加薪的相關預算沒有編入 |
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6257.97 |
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導致預算的一個僵局 |
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6257.97 |
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6259.97 |
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那這116年我們還要重蹈覆轍嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
6259.97 |
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6261.97 |
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我們現在有 |
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6263.97 |
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那個加急的部分我們已經有做過檢討 |
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6265.97 |
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那也跟行政院人士總是做溝通 |
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那等到最後定案的時候 |
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6269.97 |
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我們再一併發佈 |
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6269.97 |
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6271.97 |
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請問定案的最終時間會是什麼 |
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6273.97 |
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所以目前聽起來是沒有編進去喔 |
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6275.97 |
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應該會將我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
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6277.97 |
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現在所檢討的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
6277.97 |
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6279.97 |
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有共識的都會納進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
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6281.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
檢討有共識納進來 |
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6281.97 |
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6283.97 |
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就是我們加急的 |
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6283.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
6285.97 |
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我們現在在檢討不同的加急的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
6285.97 |
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6287.97 |
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這個狀況 |
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6287.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
6289.97 |
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那有跟人總談討一個加急的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
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6291.97 |
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發給的對象 |
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因為我們剛談了嘛 |
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6293.97 |
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6295.97 |
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就是你預算內部的整個流程完備 |
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6295.97 |
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6297.97 |
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你也就是7月都完備8月總算順利法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
6297.97 |
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那現在已經8月了對吧 |
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6301.97 |
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那你還沒有完備意思是說我還會再變動嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
6301.97 |
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6303.97 |
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差不多已經底定了 |
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6303.97 |
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6305.97 |
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但是我想因為這個發佈的時機 |
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6305.97 |
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6307.97 |
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我們還是要由行政院來定奪 |
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6309.97 |
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所以差不多已經底定了 |
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6309.97 |
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6311.97 |
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那我想8月底會送預算 |
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6313.97 |
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應該會在那個時候之前 |
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6313.97 |
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6315.97 |
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我們就會對外界做一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
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我提醒你啦 |
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6319.97 |
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這一段時間大家都在談 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
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6321.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
不管是從軍購角度或什麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
6321.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
6323.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
我們慢慢慢慢要提升這個國防預算戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
6323.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
6325.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
全國總預算戰的一定的戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
6325.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
6327.97 |
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合理的調整我想在來黨都會支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
6327.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
6329.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
在來黨非常非常堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
6329.97 |
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6331.97 |
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從來不是只有裝備武器的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
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6333.97 |
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你把大家的待遇都搞好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
6333.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
6335.97 |
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還有鋪設瓷器還有剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
6335.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
6337.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
心理精神的韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
6337.97 |
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6339.97 |
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它會是正面的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
6339.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
6341.97 |
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我不曉得你今天講半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
6341.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
6343.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
到底最後的結論是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
6343.97 |
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6345.97 |
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但是我藉用這樣一點時間 |
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6345.97 |
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6347.97 |
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我再次很誠懇的喊話很呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
6347.97 |
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6349.97 |
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好好地按照當初在來黨通過的軍人待遇條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
6349.97 |
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6351.97 |
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趕快去編列其實問題就解決了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
6351.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
6353.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
也可以切合今天強化精神戰力 |
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6355.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
穩定他職場發展的一個初衷 |
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6357.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
我們這一段時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
6357.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
6359.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
台灣經濟發展因為半導體產業非常的好 |
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不錯嘛 |
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所以我們要把這個軍人待遇條例 |
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給提高了10%甚至10幾% |
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每一年能夠帶動相關的稅收也好 |
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包括股票等等 |
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國庫增加的稅收到幾千億 |
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幾千億再算了 |
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因為軍人待遇條例按照在來黨版本 |
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滿大滿算三五百億的一個支出 |
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行政院條好國防衛生委完全有能力去因應 |
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當初這樣好好地給 |
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這個軍人加薪不就好了嗎 |
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為什麼還要拉拉扯扯 |
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6387.97 |
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還要研究還要什麼定案等等 |
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6389.97 |
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部長 |
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部長會希望透過這個 |
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依照任務繁重的程度 |
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還有那個他的專業程度 |
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我們從這個加給 |
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各項的加給面 |
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不斷地檢討調整 |
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那這次也確實是有在進行 |
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這個調整擴大 |
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發放的對象以及這個 |
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聽起來感覺起來就是 |
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沒有按照當初在來黨的條例去編 |
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我們希望 |
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這個用透過 |
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這樣子的一個加給的方式 |
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來認為我們 |
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希望能夠將 |
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譬如說我們簡單講就是說 |
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我們也許現在變性比比較低的 |
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我們希望透過這樣相關的誘因來納 |
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而不是一體的 |
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因為一體的這個部分反而會在我們看起來 |
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會造成某種程度 |
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的一個 |
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我本身是不樂見再有類似的 |
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一些僵局啦 |
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如果說今天政府的財源財政狀況還不錯 |
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該處理要處理啦 |
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講話就講到這裡就好反正後面大家 |
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這個恐怕又會有一番爭論 |
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但我們還有另外一個題目我還要再就教 |
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我剛剛談的第一個當然就是 |
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從國軍經濟上的一個待遇給予全面性 |
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穩定的一個支持 |
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讓他可以好好的來面對自己的軍旅生活 |
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專心去訓練第二個談的是 |
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工作環境嘛這本期上個月 |
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7月 |
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7月初的時候 |
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7月8號也是在這邊質詢的時候我提了一個叫無效文書 |
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的事情剛好今天是漢光 |
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大家忙翻天了是吧 |
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上次就舉了這個例子 |
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每天到重大演習的時候 |
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不管是事前的準備或者是事後的檢討 |
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動輒的投影片300頁起跳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
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6481.32 |
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大家做到頭昏腦脹 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
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這個工時啊很多基層 |
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做相關這個文書整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
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或者是相關簡報的人等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
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工時 |
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6491.32 |
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超過18個小時啊這樣的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
6491.32 |
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當然你我講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
6495.32 |
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有過去有過去的一個慣性跟習性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
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但是這樣子的一個環境 |
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總是不太總是不進步的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
總是總是這個不效率的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
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那這樣的狀況後來國防部講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
6505.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
這個部長聽到也正面的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
6505.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
6507.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
說我們馬上來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
6507.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
6509.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
各單位的一個無效文書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
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作業的這樣一個檢討 |
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那麼具體來講現在有沒有一些降低的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
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效果因為過了一個月啦我追蹤一下 |
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這件事情的進度請說明 |
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6519.32 |
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包委員那個您剛剛提到有關 |
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6521.32 |
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我們作戰演訓那些做了很多 |
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powerpoint的這個部分 |
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事實上我們從去年到 |
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今年尤其在這一次漢光演習裡面 |
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如果您仔細看的話就會發現 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
我們現在基於實戰化 |
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的要求基本上都是 |
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要求各級指摘人員 |
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必須要就圖 |
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就他的狀況去做 |
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表述而不是去做一大堆的 |
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那個powerpoint去 |
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去表達這是第一個第二個 |
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有關於公文書的這個部分 |
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在上次委員指導過之後 |
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除了我們原本在 |
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之前推的一定到位的 |
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這個政策之外 |
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去精檢各單位的文書 |
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作業那我們 |
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目前的計畫是 |
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針對基層部隊 |
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也就是迎擊到軍團這邊 |
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屬於他不必要的 |
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業務的部分我們會 |
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再做進一步的精檢 |
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尤其是業務量最多的人士 |
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跟後勤的這個部分 |
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6575.32 |
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6577.32 |
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我們會去做全面性的檢討 |
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6577.97 |
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6579.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
所以現在聽起來全面性 |
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6579.97 |
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6581.97 |
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因為你也有回覆我當初講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
6581.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
6583.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
調一個資料來怎麼樣來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
6583.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
6585.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
這個其實寫得蠻精簡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
6585.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
6587.97 |
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你都很精簡是很好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
6587.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
6589.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
總是這一個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
6589.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
6591.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
放在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
6591.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
6593.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
具體來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
6593.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
6595.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
到底降低了多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
6595.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
6597.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
我想國防部還是要給相對詳細的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
6597.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
6599.54 |
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舉幾個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
6599.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
6601.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
比如說目前幾個軍種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
6601.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
6603.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
比如說剛剛你有講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
6603.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
6605.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
人士後勤可能是相對文書作業量非常大的一個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
6605.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
6607.54 |
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那我剛剛提了為了因應演習的各種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
6607.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
6609.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
資料相關的參謀等等單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
6609.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
6611.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
恐怕壓力也不小 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
6611.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
6613.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
那你這個回覆質詢的說明之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
6613.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
6615.54 |
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你有寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
6615.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
6617.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
我們現在會運用既有的資訊系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
6617.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
6619.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
建立共同資料平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
6619.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
6621.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
以即時的數據取代人工彙整跟重複製作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
6621.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
6623.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
這寫得蠻華麗的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
6623.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
6625.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
但我有點擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
6625.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
6627.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
這你所謂既有資訊系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
6627.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
6629.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
是不是Wallet跟Powerpoint |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
6629.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
6631.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
應該有專門的系統吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
6631.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
6633.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
所以我才講嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
6633.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
6635.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
第一個你要把相關的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
6635.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
6637.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
做更具體的一些說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
6637.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
6639.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
第二個我很關心的事情是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
6639.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
6641.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
你從上面要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
6641.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
6643.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
因為你今天在立法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
6643.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
6645.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
議事堂大家聽到這樣的消息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
6645.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
6647.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
大家著手來進行處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
6647.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
6649.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
但是你講我從高層要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
6649.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
6651.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
貫徹落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
6651.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
6653.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
跟基層能不能落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
6653.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
6655.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
這個恐怕距離很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
6655.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
6657.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
我講一個故事這也是軍中流傳過的鬼故事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
6657.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
6659.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
曾經在這立法院裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
6659.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
6661.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
也有委員關心行政文書太多的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
6661.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
6663.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
所以他說我要用個量化的方式來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
6663.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
6665.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
所以我要看你們用了多少影印紙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
6665.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
6667.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
因為你印很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
6667.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
6669.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
開會大部頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
6669.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
6671.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
每個人三百頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
6671.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
6673.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
紙的消耗量很驚人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
6673.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
6675.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
所以他就要開始研究這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
6675.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
6677.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
這是一個研究的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
6677.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
6679.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
後來你知道上有政策下有對策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
6679.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
6681.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
結果後來為了避免 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
6681.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
6683.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
立法院太研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
6683.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
6685.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
大家很困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
6685.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
6687.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
所以他就用了很多錢去買紙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
6687.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
6689.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
這個就是上面的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
6689.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
6691.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
跟下面落實出現了一個很大的斷層跟落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
6691.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
6693.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
我們今天講行政減量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
6693.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
6695.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
大家都贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
6695.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
6697.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
但你怎麼樣去落實我想才是本席最關心的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
6697.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
6699.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
所以具體來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
6699.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
6701.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
打算做什麼你的系統怎麼樣來做推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
6701.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
6703.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
能不能讓基層 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
6703.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
6705.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
能夠充分的使用這些系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
6705.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
6707.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
我覺得國防部還要努力一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
6707.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
6709.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
你們有什麼具體的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
6709.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
6711.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
這個部分跟委員做個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
6711.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
6713.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
因為我們接下來是進系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
6713.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
6715.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
所以他的那個文是在系統裡面辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
6715.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
6717.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
他也不可能在那個系統裡面去重複印重複做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
6717.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
6719.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
所以其實我們現在檢討的另外一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
6719.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
6721.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
除了系統之外事實上是專業能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
6721.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6723.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
就是針對各幕僚階層裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6723.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6725.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
從少校中校上校的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6725.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6727.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
他是不是形成一個連續的脈絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6727.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6729.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
讓前面的歷練能夠逐漸的累積 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6729.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6731.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
讓前面的歷練能夠逐漸的累積 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6731.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6733.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
讓前面的歷練能夠逐漸的累積 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6733.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6735.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
讓前面的歷練能夠逐漸的累積 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6735.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6737.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
讓前面的歷練能夠逐漸的累積 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6737.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6739.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
讓前面的歷練能夠逐漸的累積 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6739.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6741.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
他的經驗配合這一套系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6741.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6743.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
那未來就可以把他那個文書做一輛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6743.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6745.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
那未來就可以把他那個文書做一輛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6745.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6747.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
逐漸逐漸的降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6747.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6749.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
當然不可能一次到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6749.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6751.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
因為人的能力是要逐漸練起來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6751.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6753.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
所以這個部分我們也透過整個編裝檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6753.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6755.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
在這次防衛兵力結構調整當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6755.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6757.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
在這次防衛兵力結構調整當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6757.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6759.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
幕僚的部分缺員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6759.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6761.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
或是他實際做一輛需要增加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6761.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6763.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
我們都有去做適度的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6764.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6766.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
這個我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6766.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6768.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
我覺得會後做一下說明好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6768.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6770.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
具體來講我要拿一些資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6770.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6772.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
如果我要調很多資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6772.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6774.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
又形成行政負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6774.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6776.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
這也非本級所願 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6776.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6778.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
但是我們會非常關心這整件行政減壓的大方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6778.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6780.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
到底在基層落實的狀況是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6780.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6782.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
我希望部長也好市長也好等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6782.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6784.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
就把這事放在心上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6784.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6786.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
長期來做追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6786.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6788.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
當然我不會去問你用了多少紙 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6790.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
因為用了多少紙他可能就自掏腰包 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6790.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6792.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
這問不出個所以然 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6792.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6794.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
羅斯要酸緊一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6794.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6796.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
既然要做這事我們就把它做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6796.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6798.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
我最後一段時間我還是提醒一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6798.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6800.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
不外乎就幾件事待遇做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6800.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6802.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
環境搞好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6802.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6804.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
那整個國軍的士氣也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6804.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6806.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
心理的穩定程度才會好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6806.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6808.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
從這樣才是辦法根本去抵抗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6808.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6810.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
滲透最重要的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6810.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6812.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
這本有中的建議希望部長好好參採 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6812.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6814.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6813.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6815.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
好謝謝劉許廷委員的諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6819.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6821.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
下一位我們請許宗信委員諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6824.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6826.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6829.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6831.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
有請國防部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6831.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6833.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
有請顧部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6837.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6839.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6838.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6840.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
這是許文輝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6841.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6843.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
我今天穿這件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6844.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6846.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
飛行夾克特別帥氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6848.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6850.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
這件飛行夾克 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6851.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6853.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
我也賣片 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6852.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6854.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
我做空軍全保會委員二十幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6856.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6858.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
才有這個飛行夾克 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6859.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6861.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
各位看到那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6861.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6863.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
螢幕裡面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6863.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6865.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
金國浩戰機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6865.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6867.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
我思路 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6867.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6869.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
駕駛艙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6870.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6872.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
拍的這個相片 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6871.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6873.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
還在LINE裡面做相片 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6875.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6877.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
接到我LINE的都非常的羨慕我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6879.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6881.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
我是不是有特權去拍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6882.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6884.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
我是受到允許 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6884.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6886.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
我們空軍全保會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6887.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6889.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
才能夠被允許上去拍照 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6890.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6892.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
每一個委員都可以拍照 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6893.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6895.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
部長你有聽過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6895.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6897.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
空軍前總司令劉桂麗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6900.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6902.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
各位有聽過空軍全總司令劉桂麗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6906.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6908.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
很多人沒有聽過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6910.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6912.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
6913.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6915.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
人魚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6915.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6917.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
是空軍前總司令 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6918.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6920.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
劉桂麗他們當時所做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6921.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6923.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
送給我們空軍全保會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6925.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6927.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
那我們空軍建核沒有這麼胖的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6928.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6930.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
我懷疑他是根據我的體型做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6931.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6933.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
這件夾克應該也是根據我的體型訂做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6935.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6937.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
因為我們F16的飛行員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6937.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6939.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
沒有我這麼胖的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6940.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6942.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
我坐在那個金國號戰機裡面的機艙裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6944.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6946.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
才感覺到那種飛行員的辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6948.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6950.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
非常的宅小 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6950.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6954.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
而要操縱非常複雜的儀器設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6954.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6958.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
而且要高空極速的飛行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6958.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6960.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
而且要作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6961.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6963.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
那種辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6962.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6964.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
我特地進機艙去體驗它 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6966.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6968.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
所以空軍全保會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6968.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6970.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
我當二十幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6971.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6973.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
我穿西裝敢在這裡殺野 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6975.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6977.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
但是我穿這件夾克的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6978.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6980.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
我絕對跟部長免時一報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6983.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6985.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
空軍的士氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6986.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6988.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
您今天報告裡面所講的那些內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6990.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6992.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
坦白講效用不大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
6993.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6995.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
我當過經理官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6995.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6997.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
我知道這種課程效用不大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6999.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
7001.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
空軍的權益保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
7002.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
7004.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
能夠落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
7004.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
7006.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
它才是我們的心理士氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
7007.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
7009.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
提升的重要的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
7011.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
7013.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
7013.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
7015.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
我已當過空軍全保會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
7015.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
7017.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
二十幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
7017.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
7019.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
7019.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
7021.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
偉壽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
7021.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
7023.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
而我當這個委員不是一般的教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
7023.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
7025.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
可以有這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
7026.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
7028.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
我2000年回國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
7028.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
7030.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
2002年台灣加入勒比丘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
7031.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
7033.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
台灣所有的法律要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
7033.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
7035.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
翻譯成英文到世界貿易組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
7036.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
7038.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
那個英文要怎麼翻譯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
7039.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
7041.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
我在虎大替黃務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
7042.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
7044.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
非常用功的翻譯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
7045.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
7047.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
黃務部才 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
7046.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
7048.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
跟我講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
7048.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
7050.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
許教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
7049.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
7051.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
許助理教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
7051.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
7053.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
空軍全保會有一位孫力委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
7055.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
7057.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
他沒辦法再繼續擔任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
7057.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
7059.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
我們推薦你去空軍當全保會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
7059.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
7061.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
要不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
7061.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
7063.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
我說當然同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
7063.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
7065.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
這是我最大的榮譽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
7066.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
7068.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
我們全保會委員開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
7070.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
7072.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
7071.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
7073.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
律師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
7073.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
7075.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
有一半是將軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
7076.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
7078.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
中將當主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
7079.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
7081.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
過了很久一段時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
7082.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
7084.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
整一名少將 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
7084.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
7086.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
他才能夠練習 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
7086.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
7088.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
士兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
7088.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
7090.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
退伍的將領 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
7090.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
7092.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
任何的權益受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
7092.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
7094.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
有點委屈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
7094.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
7096.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
他就申訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
7096.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
7098.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
將近時刻新興 |
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7099.06 |
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7101.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
包括法律人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
7101.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
7103.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
律師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
7102.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
7104.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
將近20個工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
7105.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
7107.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
天一個士兵在那邊訴苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
7108.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
7110.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
他送 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
7109.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
7111.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
我犯的過錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
7111.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
7113.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
不應該兩個過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
7112.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
7114.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
過重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
7114.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
7116.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
我們就會聽了解他的事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
7117.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
7119.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
然後我們這些民間委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
7120.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
7122.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
就會跟這些將官報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
7122.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
7124.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
這個的確過重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
7124.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
7126.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
過重的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
7127.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
7129.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
7128.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
7130.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
弟兄 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
7130.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
7132.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
鬧出新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
7132.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
7134.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
上了報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
7133.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
7135.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
總司令就發怒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
7135.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
7137.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
就會加重處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
7137.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
7139.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
然後我們就會把他降下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
7141.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
7143.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
很多士兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
7143.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
7145.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
來到我們委員會申訴以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
7145.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
7147.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
我們撤銷原處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
7147.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
7149.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
另為適當之處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
7151.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
7153.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
很多弟兄 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
7153.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
7155.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
痛哭流涕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
7155.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
7157.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
感動的離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
7156.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
7158.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
這是我個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
7158.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
7160.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
覺得我一生裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
7160.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
7162.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
所擔任的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
7162.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
7164.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
會讓我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
7163.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
7165.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
7166.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
7168.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
部長您覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
7168.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
7170.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
空軍權益保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
7171.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
7173.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
入監權益保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
7173.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
7175.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
海軍權益保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
7175.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
7177.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
該如何提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
7178.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
7180.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
今天部長所報告這些課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
7180.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
7182.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
7181.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
7183.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
會用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
7182.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
7184.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
是沒必要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
7184.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
7186.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
應該要遵解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
7186.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
7188.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
把它挪過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
7188.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
7190.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
做這種空軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
7190.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
7192.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
入軍海軍的權益保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
7192.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
7194.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
這樣才是比較實際 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
7194.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
7196.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
委員報告我們的權益保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
7196.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
7198.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
已經有一個重大的變革 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
7198.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
7200.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
那是不是請法律師簡要說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
7200.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
7202.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
我知道因為好久沒有通知我開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
7202.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
7204.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
7204.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
7206.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
所以你們這個變革我當然知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
7206.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
7208.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
我故意不講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
7208.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
7210.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
是不要讓你們為難 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
7210.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
7212.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
而你們卻自己講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
7212.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
7214.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
因為好久沒有通知我開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
7214.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
7216.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
我本來要把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
7216.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
7218.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
好的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
7218.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
7220.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
我當時在空軍全法會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
7220.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
7222.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
跟很多中將少將 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
7222.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
7224.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
報告我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
7224.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
7226.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
我們空軍的武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
7226.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
7228.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
不如對岸的武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
7229.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
7231.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
我們的F16不如他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
7233.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
7235.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
艱難的戰機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
7235.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
7237.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
我們強的就是我們的士氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
7238.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
7240.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
我們替台灣打拼的心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
7241.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
7243.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
所以權益保障非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
7243.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
7245.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
後來空軍權益保障委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
7245.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
7247.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
他做到什麼程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
7247.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
7249.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
做到空軍在招募 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
7249.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
7251.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
空軍機械學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
7251.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
7253.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
空軍官校的士兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
7253.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
7255.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
是用空軍權益保障委員這個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
7255.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
7257.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
做招生的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
7257.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
7259.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
文宣品之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
7259.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
7261.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
這是我覺得很光榮的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
7261.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
7263.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
你請講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
7263.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
7265.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
社哥委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
7265.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
7267.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
我是國防部法律司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
7267.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
7269.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
我們現在關於權益保障的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
7269.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
7271.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
在委員當權保委員的期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
7271.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
7273.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
這是屬於我們行政規則的內部規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
7273.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
7275.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
那我們現在為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
7275.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
7277.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
要讓他有法律的慰藉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
7277.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
7279.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
我們在去年我們已經制定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
7279.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
7281.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
一個軍人權益事件處理法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
7281.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
7283.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
把官兵的權益保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
7283.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
7285.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
提交到法律的慰藉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
7285.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
7287.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
那現在官兵的權保會是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
7287.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
7289.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
我們設在我們國防部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
7289.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
7291.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
地方軍事法院有權保委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
7291.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
7293.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
一樣是審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
7293.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
7295.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
官兵的權保案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
7295.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
7297.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
要確保官兵的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
7297.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
7299.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
請問有沒有將聯參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
7299.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
7301.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
我們現在的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
7301.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
7303.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
都是部外的專家學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
7303.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
7305.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
沒有我們自己軍方的將聯參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
7305.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
7307.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
這個就是主要的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
7307.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
7309.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
也就是說權保委員是一半將官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
7309.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
7311.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
一半是外部學者法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
7311.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
7313.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
所以我們就會意見交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
7313.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
7315.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
所以空軍他的權保 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
7315.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
7317.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
他的內部很多機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
7317.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
7319.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
是我們這些民間的學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
7319.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
7321.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
跟中將報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
7321.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
7323.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
跟少將報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
7323.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
7325.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
他們聽進去的去做了改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
7328.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
7330.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
而你把這個權益保障完全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
7330.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
7332.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
挪給法律人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
7332.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
7334.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
法律人對空軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
7334.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
7336.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
很多內部的管理根本是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
7336.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
7338.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
原外漢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
7338.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
7340.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
所以你們失去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
7340.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
7342.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
我們內外交流的一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
7345.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
7347.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
是我們的權保委員是包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
7347.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
7349.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
各界的專家學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
7349.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
7351.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
不包含全部是法律的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
7351.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
7353.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
沒錯 但是你們沒有將領 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
7353.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
7355.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
我們空軍權保委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
7355.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
7357.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
我今天不是來質問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
7357.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
7359.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
空軍權保委員會為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
7359.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
7361.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
不再開的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
7361.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
7363.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
我是來質詢如何提升士氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
7363.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
7365.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
是部長自己請你上來回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
7365.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
7367.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
我跟各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
7367.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
7369.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
這個很大的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
7370.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
7372.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
當一半是少將中將 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
7372.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
7374.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
跟律師坐在一起的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
7375.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
7377.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
我坦白講我到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
7377.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
7379.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
空軍權保會我才知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
7379.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
7381.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
原來空軍中了民主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
7382.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
7384.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
一個中將 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
7384.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
7386.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
願意聽一個小兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
7386.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
7388.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
一個士兵在那邊訴苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
7388.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
7390.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
我在學界啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
7390.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
7392.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
我們助理教授啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
7393.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
7395.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
7394.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
7396.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
護教授 教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
7396.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
7398.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
我講個笑話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
7398.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
7400.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
印度來飛燒我來打火 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
7401.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
7403.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
護教授 教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
7403.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
7405.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
什麼事情交代我們助理教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
7405.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
7407.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
我們都要做不敢吭聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
7407.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
7409.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
而我們空軍是做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
7409.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
7411.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
中將願意聽士兵來訴苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
7413.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
7415.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
這個才是士氣提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
7416.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
7418.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
這個才是士氣提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
7418.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
7420.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
所以我個人認為喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
7420.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
7422.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
我不是責怪你們權保會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
7422.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
7424.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
沒有再繼續的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
7424.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
7426.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
我今天是來質詢如何士氣提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
7427.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
7429.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
也就是說讓我們空軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
7429.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
7431.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
陸軍海軍他的權力保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
7432.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
7434.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
非常的充分和無法制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
7435.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
7437.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
每一個人心虎口虎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
7437.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
7439.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
我們即使武器比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
7439.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
7441.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
沒有對岸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
7441.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
7443.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
那麼的數量多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
7443.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
7445.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
或是那麼的高科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
7445.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
7447.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
我們仍然可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
7447.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
7449.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
跟他披底 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
7449.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
7451.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
這是我今天來的主要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
7451.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
7453.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
跟各位訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
7453.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
7455.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
有關我們法律的制度變革 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
7455.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
7457.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
在官兵權益保障的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
7457.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
7459.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
會後我們再跟委員做個充分的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
7459.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
7461.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
7461.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
7463.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
7464.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
7466.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
謝謝徐委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
7469.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
7471.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
下一位請馬文君委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
7478.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
7480.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
7480.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
7482.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
麻煩請顧部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
7488.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
7490.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
是 麻煩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
7518.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
7520.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
國軍弟兄也非常辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
7520.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
7522.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
我們在很多在馬路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
7522.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
7524.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
像我們前天到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
7524.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
7526.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
南部去的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
7526.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
7528.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
其實在路上也看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
7528.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
7530.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
有非常多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
7530.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
7532.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
我們軍用車輛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
7532.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
7534.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
其實也都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
7534.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
7536.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
路上穿梭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
7536.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
7538.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
那我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
7538.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
7540.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
這個時候其實也在此 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
7540.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
7542.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
表達問候之意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
7542.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
7544.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
因為近年兩岸敵情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
7544.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
7546.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
也非常嚴峻 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
7546.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
7548.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
所以國軍的灰色地帶威脅也不斷的升高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
7548.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
7550.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
也由金門、馬祖等外島地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
7550.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
7552.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
在台灣的西部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
7552.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
7554.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
擴展到東部的海域 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
7554.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
7556.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
所以國軍當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
7556.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
7558.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
在改變演訓方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
7558.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
7560.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
還有採購各類 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
7560.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
7562.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
新式武器裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
7562.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
7564.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
來因應解放軍的威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
7564.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
7566.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
更重要的我們國軍九訓未戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
7566.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
7568.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
面對人數也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
7568.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
7570.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
武器裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
7570.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
7572.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
還有他的可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
7572.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
7574.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
軍力的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
7574.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
7576.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
其實都背負於國軍的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
7576.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
7578.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
這樣的威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
7578.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
7580.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
要怎麼強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
7580.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
7582.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
我們官兵抵我意識的精神戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
7582.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
7584.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
還有培養戰場抗壓性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
7584.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
7586.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
這是今天我們安排專報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
7586.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
7588.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
很重要的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
7588.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
7590.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
所以我們也希望國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
7590.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
7592.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
也可以在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
7592.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
7594.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
可以更落實的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
7594.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
7596.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
去考量或者去強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
7596.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
7598.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
不過在這之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
7598.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
7600.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
7600.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
7601.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
7601.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
7603.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
兩個問題要請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
7603.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
7605.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
7605.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
7607.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
像我們剛剛其實有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
7607.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
7609.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
很多的委員一直都提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
7609.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
7611.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
我們現在有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
7611.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
7613.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
很多的預算好像是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
7613.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
7615.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
在野黨還 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
7615.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
7617.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
沒有同意通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
7617.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
7619.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
可是我們聽到最多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
7619.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
7621.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
最近大家討論最多的大概就是無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
7621.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
7623.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
剛剛也有委員提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
7623.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
7625.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
不過提到無人機的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
7625.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
7627.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
我們可以從國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
7627.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
7629.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
最早開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
7629.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
7631.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
投入的這個發芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
7631.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
7633.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
研發的這個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
7633.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
7635.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
最早可以追溯到民國83年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
7635.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
7637.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
1994年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
7637.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
7639.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
那時候經濟部支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
7639.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
7641.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
中山科學研究院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
7641.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
7643.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
來執行這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
7643.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
7645.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
7645.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
7647.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
飛控還有自動駕駛等關鍵技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
7647.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
7649.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
後來中科院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
7649.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
7651.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
選擇以無人機作為技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
7651.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
7653.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
驗證的平台發展出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
7653.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
7655.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
中翔二號無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
7655.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
7657.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
這個是在三十幾年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
7657.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
7659.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
其實政府國防部已經投入了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
7659.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
7661.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
相當的預算跟資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
7661.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
7663.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
那我們也開始起步 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
7663.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
7665.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
7665.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
7667.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
三十幾年來其實我們也看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
7667.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
7669.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
我們在很多的預算上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
7669.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
7671.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
不管是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
7671.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
7673.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
從小到大的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
7673.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
7675.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
不管是兼徵型的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
7675.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
7677.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
不管是供給型的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
7677.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
7679.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
或者其他的反制的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
7679.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
7681.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
其實中科院也有投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
7681.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
7683.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
科研 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
7684.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
7686.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
像紅雀兼兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
7686.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
7688.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
還有瑞淵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
7688.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
7690.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
還有晉峰你們之前說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
7690.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
7692.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
巡飛彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
7692.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
7694.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
還有像劍翔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
7694.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
7696.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
還有像騰雲其實很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
7696.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
7698.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
而且我們投入的經費也不少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
7698.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
7700.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
所以我們也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
7700.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
7702.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
不管國防部或者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
7702.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
7704.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
執政黨的委員在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
7704.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
7706.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
爭取這樣相關預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
7706.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
7708.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
不要把它一刀切 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
7708.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
7710.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
因為從三十幾年前我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
7710.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
7712.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
其實就投入了相當的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
7712.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
7714.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
在執行這些而且努力到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
7714.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
7716.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
我們現在看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
7716.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
7718.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
這麼多暴增的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
7718.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
7720.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
我們想要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
7720.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7722.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
是第一要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7722.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7724.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
驗證過去我們從小到大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7724.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7726.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
無人機都做過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7726.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7728.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
也都有研發當時也都 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7728.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7730.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
跟我們說非常的成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7730.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7732.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
那你在這個成功之餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7732.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7734.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
你可以投入到現在無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7734.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7736.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
的發展上面可以做什麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7736.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7738.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
的一個挹注 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7738.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7740.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
沒有說的很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7740.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7742.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
另外在這麼高的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7742.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7744.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
底下我們也看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7744.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7746.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
我們從過去驗證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7746.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7748.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
我們希望可以驗證過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7748.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7750.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
然後你才去投資未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7750.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
7752.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
我們看到的如果你覺得過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7752.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
7754.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
這個是不夠好的我們到底不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7754.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7756.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
在哪裡需要什麼樣外部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7756.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7758.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
關鍵技術也沒有說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7758.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
7760.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
清楚那你一下子就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7760.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
7762.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
要幾千億幾千億的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7762.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
7764.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
我們不知道要如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7764.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
7766.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
讓大家放心的去通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7766.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7768.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
這麼高的預算所以就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7768.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7770.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
這個部分我們也請大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7770.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7772.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
不要說一直認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7772.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7774.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
這是沒有預算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7774.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7776.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
原因那講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7776.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7778.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
這個部分我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7779.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7781.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
以一個最近的例子來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7781.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7783.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
因為以目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7785.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7787.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
賴政府上任兩年多以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7787.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
7789.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
我們的國防預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7789.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7791.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
從過去我們已經講過很多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7791.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7793.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
從三千億四千億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7793.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7795.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
到六我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7795.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7797.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
蔡英文總統蔡政府的六千億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7799.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7801.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
到現在的九千多億以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7801.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7803.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
我們通過了國防的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7803.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7805.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
國土認金預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7805.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7807.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
一千多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7807.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7809.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
我們通過了七千八百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7809.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7811.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
我們的對美的軍購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7811.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7813.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7813.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7815.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
又提出兩千一百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7815.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7817.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
還加上我們自己公務預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7817.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7819.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
其實已經高達兩兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7821.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7823.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
今年又提出很高額的國防預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7823.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7825.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
我們來看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7825.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7827.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
今天有一個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7827.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7829.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
我想請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7829.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
7831.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
這個惠敏營區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7831.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
7833.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7833.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7835.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
剛剛招標了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7835.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7837.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
在採購網上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7837.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7839.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
可以查詢到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7839.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7841.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
剛剛決標辦理室內教室 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7841.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7843.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
教育中心大樓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7843.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
7845.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
室外訓場以及庫儲設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7845.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7847.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
等四個工程的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7847.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7849.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
設計及建造委託技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7849.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7851.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
服務案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7851.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7853.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
這個預算是在我們認金預算裡面來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7853.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7855.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7855.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7857.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
跟委員報告,我是憲兵操控長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7857.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
7859.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
沒關係,簡單回應就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7859.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7861.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
那其實這四個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7861.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
7863.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
他在工程執行的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7863.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7867.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
其實高達將近五億的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7867.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7869.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
是,四億五千多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7869.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7871.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
其實已經非常高的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7871.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7873.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
所以兩年內就要執行完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7873.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7875.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
因為他是在認金預算裡面編出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7875.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7877.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
那這惠敏營區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7877.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7879.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
他都是在同一個營區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7879.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7881.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
我們有四個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7881.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7883.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
這四個案子為什麼要把它拆成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7883.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7885.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
四案下去招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7885.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7887.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
因為我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7887.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7889.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
決標的部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7889.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7891.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
規劃設計及建造委託 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7891.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7893.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
的部分嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7893.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7895.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
那這麼高的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7895.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7897.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
我們為什麼把它拆成四個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7897.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7899.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
我們為什麼把它拆成四個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7900.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7902.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7902.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7904.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
我們當初是,的確是有考慮到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7904.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7906.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
可能考慮不周,然後把它拆成四個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7906.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7908.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
因為約兩年期怕來不及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7908.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7910.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
那後續下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7910.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7912.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
也會針對這個案子做一個全班的了解跟檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7913.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7915.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
那後續我們會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7915.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7917.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
計幅那部分會掌握到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7917.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7919.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
按照的,按照期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7919.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7921.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
強化旅約都島的評事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7921.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7923.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
那如期如此讓它完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7923.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7925.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
本席今天先填出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7925.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7927.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
就是說他不合理的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7927.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7929.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
我們現在要請國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7929.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7931.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
注意的是因為部長也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7931.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7933.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
對於法律的相關的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7933.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7935.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
尤其採購法,這是可以這樣猜的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7935.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7937.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
這是第一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7937.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7939.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
因為他在同一個營區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7939.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7941.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
在同一個時段他的預算來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7941.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7943.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
其實都是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7943.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7945.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
然後像這些相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7945.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7947.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
你把它拆成四個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7947.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7949.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
而且都是每一個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7949.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7951.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
都是999萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7951.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7953.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
然後由同一個建築師得標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7955.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7957.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
同一天招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7957.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7959.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
所以像這樣子的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7959.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7961.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
這是非常不合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7961.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7963.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
因為剛剛我們擔心說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7963.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7965.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
這麼高額4億多的工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7965.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7967.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
然後我們招標出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7967.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7969.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
是怕我們沒有辦法完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7969.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7971.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
可是你同一個建築師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7971.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7973.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
得標以後他要設計四個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7973.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7975.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
那你在這麼短 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7975.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7977.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
只剩一年多因為你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7977.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
7979.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
旅約的時間從115年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
7979.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
7981.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
3月5號到116年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
7981.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
7983.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
12月31號這個只有一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
7983.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
7985.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
多的時間你必須要執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
7985.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
7987.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
4億多的工程預算以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
7987.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
7989.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
包括他的設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
7989.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
7991.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
因為你裡面還有訓場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7991.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
7993.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
像這樣的一個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
7993.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
7995.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
其實他都必須要經過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
7995.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
7997.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
審核他才可以通過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
7997.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
7999.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
那你過去像我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
7999.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
8001.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
在這前身像我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
8001.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
8003.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
殲10營區其實他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
8003.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
8005.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
都是憲兵的嘛,殲10營區部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
8005.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
8007.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
也有去檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
8007.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
8009.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
那個光是他的工程才2億多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
8009.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
8011.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
他都要做四五年以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
8011.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
8013.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
那你這個4億多的工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
8013.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
8015.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
你可以一年多就把它執行完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
8015.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
8017.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
而且只有一家你剛剛說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
8017.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
8019.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
因為怕執行不來所以把它拆成四個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
8019.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
8021.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
這是很矛盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
8021.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
8023.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
邏輯不通的,你拆成四個結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
8023.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
8025.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
有一家得標,那這一家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
8025.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
8027.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
他必須要設計四個案子以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
8027.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
8029.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
才去配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
8029.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
8031.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
一些工程的廠商,這一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
8031.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
8033.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
我們現在先點出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
8033.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
8035.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
希望先去查查清楚以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
8035.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
8037.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
後續應該要怎麼樣做處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
8037.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
8039.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
如果他沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
8039.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
8041.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
因為我們看到我們過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
8041.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
8043.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
我們不管長安營區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
8043.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
8045.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
我們的所有坑子口 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
8045.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
8047.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
我們的軍博館還有我們所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
8047.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
8049.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
訓場動輒都好幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
8049.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
8051.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
而且甚至都有延長工期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
8051.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
8053.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
那你居然可以這麼高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
8053.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
8055.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
預算,可以在這麼短的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
8055.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
8057.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
執行,那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
8057.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
8059.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
第一,為什麼拆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
8059.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
8061.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
為什麼只有一家投標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
8061.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
8063.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
我們還可以讓他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
8063.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
8065.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
通過,而且他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
8065.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
8067.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
同一天招標的,這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
8067.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
8069.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
希望可以把他,後續把他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
8069.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
8071.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
釐清楚以後,做一個完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
8071.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
8073.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
一個說明報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
8073.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
8075.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
那我今天特別提到這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
8075.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
8077.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
主要的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
8077.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
8079.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
是因為我剛剛念了一堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
8079.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
8081.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
很多的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
8081.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
8083.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
我們現在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
8083.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
8085.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
我們吃東西重不重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
8085.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
8087.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
在我們桌上擺滿了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
8087.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
8089.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
食物 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
8088.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
8090.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
今天如果說你一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
8090.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
8092.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
只能吃多少量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
8092.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
8094.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
你只能吞多少東西,每一個都很營養 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
8094.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
8096.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
沒有錯,可是你在短期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
8096.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
8098.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
之內,你就是吞不了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
8098.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
8100.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
你就是吃不下,所以我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
8100.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
8102.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
在我們所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
8102.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
8104.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
預算的運用上面,因為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
8104.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
8106.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
都是大家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
8106.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
8108.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
血汗錢,大家要怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
8108.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
8110.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
去運用這些錢,你編了這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
8110.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
8112.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
你根本就沒有辦法執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
8112.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
8114.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
包括我們的反制無人機的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
8114.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
8116.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
系統,已經三年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
8116.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
8118.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
你連九億多都標不出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
8118.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
8120.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
你現在又要幾千億幾千億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
8120.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
8122.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
的編,我們不知道要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
8122.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
8124.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
如何去驗證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
8124.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
8126.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
這個過去的時機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
8126.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
8128.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
讓我們可以相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
8128.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
8130.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
本席舉這個例子就是說你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
8131.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
8133.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
8133.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
8135.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
他就是倉促 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
8135.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
8137.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
提出來的,你兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
8137.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
8139.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
要去蓋這幾個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
8139.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
8141.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
不管是整修案還是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
8141.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
8143.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
你過去有很多都說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
8143.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
8145.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
要經過很多的驗測 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
8145.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
8147.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
還有很多的報告,一拖 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
8147.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
8149.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
光是你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
8149.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
8151.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
專案設計,其實都要拖很長的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
8151.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
8153.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
所以你現在短短 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
8153.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
8155.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
六十天要把它做出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
8155.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
8157.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
我們覺得非常不可思議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
8157.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
8159.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
所以吃快餐看我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
8159.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
8161.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
所以不要只是要錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
8161.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
8163.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
不要只是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
8163.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
8165.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
預算要馬上到手 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
8165.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
8167.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
先回頭看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
8167.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
8169.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
過去我們所有的時機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
8169.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
8171.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
我們說三十幾年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
8171.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
8173.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
我們的無人機不是今天才要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
8173.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
8175.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
不是今天才要買 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
8175.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
8177.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
不是今天才有預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
8177.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
8179.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
你過去花掉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
8179.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
8181.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
到底有什麼樣的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
8181.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
8183.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
先讓我們所有的國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
8183.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
8185.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
清楚的看到,這樣我們才知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
8185.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
8187.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
在戰場上他能不能發揮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
8187.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
8189.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
作用,所以他不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
8189.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
8191.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
錢一次到位或者一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
8191.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
8193.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
要過多少,而是先讓大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
8193.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
8195.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
知道你們要怎麼執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
8195.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
8197.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
我們現在還擔心的一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
8197.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
8199.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
就是我們花了這麼多的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
8199.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
8201.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
編了這麼多的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
8201.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
8203.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
你的人到底在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
8203.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
8205.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
因為我們所有的武器裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
8205.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
8207.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
我們所有的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
8207.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
8209.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
需要你花掉的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
8209.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
8211.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
所以我們現在的預算,他都需要人去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
8211.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
8213.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
我們現在最大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
8213.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
8215.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
包括我們的飛行員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
8215.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
8217.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
都不足,這是美軍說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
8218.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
8220.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
所以如果你買了一堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
8220.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
8222.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
然後我們沒有人,應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
8222.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
8224.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
怎麼辦,這也不是單獨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
8224.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
8226.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
漢光演習的時間,而是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
8226.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
8228.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
他現在確實就是存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
8228.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
8230.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
的問題,我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
8230.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
8232.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
大家好好的去釐清這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
8232.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
8234.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
以後,才來告訴我們的國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
8234.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
8236.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
當我要花掉你幾千億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
8236.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
8238.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
幾千億的國防預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
8238.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
8240.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
大家可以給國軍信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
8240.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
8242.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
因為國軍在過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
8242.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
8244.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
採購的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
8244.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
8246.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
也應該要給國人信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
8246.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
8248.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
我們怕買來的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
8248.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
8250.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
在戰場上,如果不能用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
8250.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
8252.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
或者不好用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
8253.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
8255.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
他根本不能打 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
8255.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
8257.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
其實這才是最大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
8257.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
8259.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
所以今天我們特別提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
8259.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
8261.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
剛剛我提到的這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
8261.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
8263.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
今天沒有很多的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
8263.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
8265.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
去說明,可是我們請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
8265.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
8267.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
還有我們憲兵參謀長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
8267.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
8269.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
就這個部分,釐清楚以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
8269.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
8271.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
後續的一個作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
8271.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
8273.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
還要,應該要怎麼去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
8273.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
8275.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
請給出一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
8275.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
8277.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
還有詳細的一個後續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
8277.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
8279.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
作為,好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
8278.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
8280.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
8280.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
8282.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
好,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
8282.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
8284.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
部長要說明嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
8284.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
8286.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
好,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
8286.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
8288.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
謝謝馬委員的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
8289.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
8291.1 |
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好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
8289.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
8291.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
下面我們請黃建斌委員資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
8297.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
8299.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
好,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
8306.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
8308.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
好,謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
8308.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
8310.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
我們有請國務部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
8310.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
8312.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
有請國務部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
8318.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
8320.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
是,黃委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
8320.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
8322.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
部長,早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
8322.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
8324.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
部長,我先請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
8324.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
8326.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
最近網路上流傳一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
8326.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
8328.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
憲兵快速運動射擊的影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
8328.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
8330.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
那影片裡面那個射手移動的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
8330.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
8332.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
是一手拿彈匣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
8332.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
8334.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
一手拿著槍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
8334.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
8336.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
在跑步 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
8336.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
8338.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
部長,這個動作看起來有點像投降的動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
8338.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
8340.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
部長,你知道這件事情嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
8340.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
8342.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
我沒有看過那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
8342.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
8344.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
你說影片嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
8344.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
8346.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
一個訓練的影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
8346.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
8348.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
我沒有看過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
8349.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
8351.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
這個,參謀長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
8351.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
8353.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
8353.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
8355.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
有關這個影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
8355.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
8357.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
我們在當初是安全軍官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
8357.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
8359.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
為了避免在運動射擊的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
8359.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
8361.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
造成官兵會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
8361.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
8363.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
受傷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
8363.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
8365.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
或是這個產生一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
8365.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
8367.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
所以他要求他左手要拿著彈匣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
8367.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
8369.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
經過那個影片出來之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
8369.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
8371.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
我們的確也做了個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
8371.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
8373.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
然後在檢討之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
8374.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
8376.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
我們現在所有的在訓練之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
8376.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
8378.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
會請安全軍官先做個示範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
8378.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
8380.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
來實施這個運動射擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
8380.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
8382.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
那目前也不會有這個動作出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
8382.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
8384.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
這我本來本來想問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
8384.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
8386.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
這是你們標準動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
8386.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
8388.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
還是忽然間加上去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
8388.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
8390.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
因為這動作其實很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
8390.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
8392.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
他不是射擊的動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
8392.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
8394.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
是準備動作對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
8394.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
8396.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
他是50公尺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
8396.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
8398.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
那往前面跑總共有3個點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
8398.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
8400.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
那3個點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
8400.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
8402.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
跑的過程之中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
8402.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
8404.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
他把彈匣拿出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
8404.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
8406.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
所以說會非常奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
8406.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
8408.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
應該是到這個線的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
8408.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
8410.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
再把彈匣拿出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
8410.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
8412.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
因為我們就算看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
8412.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
8414.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
沒有真的當過兵去看影片的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
8414.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
8416.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
也是到現場才會裝彈匣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
8418.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
8420.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
還在擊發嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
8420.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
8422.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
所以其實我們很好奇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
8422.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
8424.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
當然看到影片很好奇說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
8424.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
8426.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
我們是當然我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
8426.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
8428.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
訓練讓官兵接近實戰是沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
8428.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
8430.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
可是不是要貼近這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
8430.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
8432.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
實戰的投降動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
8432.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
8434.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
所以這個部分我想布林彥這邊也有知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
8434.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
8436.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
以後我想就閉門這樣的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
8436.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
8438.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
最重要是要讓官兵知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
8438.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
8440.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
不然他會很納悶說我為什麼要做這個動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
8441.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
8443.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
本席這樣講沒有錯啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
8443.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
8445.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
好 各位報告我們已經做了檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
8445.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
8447.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
而且修正了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
8447.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
8449.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
好 謝謝 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
8449.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
8451.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
那我們回到今天的專報就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
8451.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
8453.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
我們國防部上個月28日開了記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
8453.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
8455.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
那宣布今年的這個漢光演習 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
8455.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
8457.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
的這個實兵演練要進行10天9夜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
8457.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
8459.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
從7月27、7月29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
8459.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
8461.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
那也安排了這個精神戰力的相關訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
8461.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
8463.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
8466.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
8468.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
從總統國防部長到參謀總長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
8468.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
8470.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
分別錄製這個談話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
8470.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
8472.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
然後加上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
8472.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
8474.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
再加上這個立即戰備還有聯合演訓的安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
8474.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
8476.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
我跟你講國軍現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
8476.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
8478.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
幾乎是越來越有操練 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
8478.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
8480.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
既有演訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
8480.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
8482.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
然後免得還有兩次的漢光演習 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
8482.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
8484.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
那經過這一圈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
8484.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
8486.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
演練我相信大部分的官兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
8486.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
8488.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
都能夠感受到這個敵情升高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
8488.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
8490.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
灰色地帶威脅已經越來越平反 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
8490.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
8492.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
這件事情也越來越迫切 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
8492.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
8494.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
所以這幾年我們國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
8494.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
8496.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
也不斷地提出這個年度預算還有特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
8496.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
8498.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
推動人工智慧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
8498.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
8500.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
現代化的指管系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
8500.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
8502.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
代表的儲存後勤的補給 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
8502.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
8504.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
多元的通訊甚至也 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
8504.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
8506.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
審核了民間這些支通訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
8506.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
8508.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
這些關鍵的基礎設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
8508.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
8510.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
我想這些外在戰力的強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
8510.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
8512.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
當然就是代表國家有保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
8512.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
8514.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
自己的決心喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
8514.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
8516.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
但更重要的是說我們國軍的精神戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
8516.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
8518.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
跟抗敵的意志也要同步的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
8518.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
8520.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
戰化應該是這樣嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
8520.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
8522.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
所以像部長相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
8522.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
8524.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
講的應該最有感嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
8526.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
8528.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
所以我想請問部長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
8528.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
8530.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
我們國防部現在對官軍官兵的精神戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
8530.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
8532.11 |
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跟心理任性的訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
8532.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
8534.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
有沒有一套具體 |
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8534.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
8536.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
可以衡量的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
8536.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
8538.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
還是說還是停留在我當 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
8538.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
8540.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
本期當兵的時候是那個精神喊話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
8541.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
8543.03 |
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還是正戰就這一套 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
8544.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
8546.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
你現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
8546.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
8548.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
因為委員所詢問的有兩個方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
8548.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
8550.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
一個是他的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
8550.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
8552.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
抗壓性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
8552.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
8554.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
另外一個是他的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
8554.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
8556.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
抗敵的意志 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
8556.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
8558.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
或者是這個敵我的認同等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
8558.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
8560.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
這兩個可能是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
8560.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
8562.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
8562.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
8564.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
那所以應該從這兩個不同的面向來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
8564.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
8566.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
8566.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
8568.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
那委員所槌尋的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
8568.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
8570.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
比較偏向於是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
8569.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
8571.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
8570.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
8572.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
8573.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
8575.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
8575.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
8577.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
我們今天的主題不是要強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
8577.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
8579.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
精神戰力跟心理任性嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
8579.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
8581.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
我們現在有沒有一套比較具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
8581.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
8583.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
可以衡量的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
8584.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
8586.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
因為以前本席在福義的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
8586.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
8588.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
都是我們透過每個禮拜四的舉光日 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
8588.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
8590.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
然後大家精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
8590.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
8592.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
喊話這樣子那現在有沒有更具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
8592.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
8594.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
對如果委員著重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
8594.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
8596.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
當然我如果理解沒有錯的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
8596.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
8598.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
應該是增強官兵臨戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
8598.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
8600.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
抗壓的心理素質 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
8600.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
8602.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
這一個部分那剛剛也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
8602.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
8604.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
8604.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
8606.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
其他委員來指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
8606.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
8608.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
就是說我們現在當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
8608.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
8610.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
有做一些訓前跟訓撤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
8610.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
8612.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
8612.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
8614.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
8614.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
8616.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
一個問卷調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
8616.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
8618.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
那麼這些有關相關的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
8618.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
8620.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
問卷的這個調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
8620.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
8622.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
包括訓後的檢討的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
8622.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
8624.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
8624.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
8626.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
現在委員有指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
8626.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
8628.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
我想我們已經是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
8628.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
8630.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
但是如何能夠來更精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
8630.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
8632.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
特別是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
8632.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
8634.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
對於面對這個極大的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
8634.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
8636.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
戰場上的壓力的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
8636.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
8638.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
那如何能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
8638.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
8640.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
來進一步的來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
8640.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
8642.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
這件事情我想我下去之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
8642.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
8644.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
我跟他們來進行一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
8644.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
8646.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
討論然後委員希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
8646.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
8648.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
有一個比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
8648.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
8650.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
有一個客觀或者科技的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
8650.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
8652.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
一個數據的一個檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
8652.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
8654.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
那我想我們來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
8654.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
8656.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
檢視這個相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
8656.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
8658.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
8658.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
8660.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
美方他們的這個做法我們來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
8660.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
8662.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
檢討這樣因為我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
8662.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
8664.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
精神戰力不只是一個口號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
8664.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
8666.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
因為他關心到官兵到底是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
8666.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
8668.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
他知道自己是為何而戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
8668.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
8670.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
那也關心到遇到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
8670.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
8672.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
壓力的時候遇到危機的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
8672.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
8674.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
我們真正真正面對到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
8674.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
8676.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
戰場環境的時候能不能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
8676.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
8678.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
扛得住那穩住 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
8678.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
8680.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
心智完成任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
8680.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
8682.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
我想這一點不然應該也是認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
8682.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
8684.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
那再來我想針對我們今天的漢光演習期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
8684.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
8686.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
要做這個城鎮認識演訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
8686.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
8688.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
我們光是演練的地區的安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
8688.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
8690.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
就引發了不少的這個爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
8690.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
8692.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
那也有委員也有問過就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
8692.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
8694.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
那為什麼會區域的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
8694.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
8696.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
選擇那一開始國防部說是擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
8696.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
8698.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
投資人的股市交易 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
8698.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
8700.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
然後又到了漢光的記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
8700.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
8702.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
又改口說南部地區先前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
8702.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
8704.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
受到八八風災 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
8704.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
8706.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
丹尼斯颱風天然災的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
8706.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
8708.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
已經體驗過類似的情境 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
8708.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
8710.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
所謂不納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
8710.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
8712.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
在這次城鎮認識的這個演訓裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
8712.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
8714.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
那部長這樣一個演訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
8714.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
8716.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
規劃的問題前後說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
8716.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
8718.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
都不一樣到底是怎麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
8718.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
8720.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
我想要請教部長就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
8721.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
8723.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
為什麼要做這樣的演練 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
8723.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
8725.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
那目的是為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
8725.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
8727.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
那如果說只是讓民眾體驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
8727.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
8729.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
不能上網那這樣一個重大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
8729.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
8731.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
涉及全國的演習 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
8731.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
8733.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
目標會不會設定的太小一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
8733.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
8735.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
那因為我們國防部一直說2027很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
8735.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
8737.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
2027很重要韌性很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
8737.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
8739.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
那我想要請問就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
8739.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
8741.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
到了2027我們的國防韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
8741.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
8743.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
到底要達到什麼樣的程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
8744.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
8746.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
8746.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
8748.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
我想可能要讓委員了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
8748.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
8750.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
您剛剛講那些說國防部說什麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
8750.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
8752.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
什麼樣這都不是國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
8752.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
8754.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
說的因為國防部不是這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
8754.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
8756.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
這一次的行動網路 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
8756.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
8758.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
降速的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
8758.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
8760.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
權責主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
8760.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
8762.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
我想這個涉及跨部會的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
8762.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
8764.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
那部長部裡面這邊大概了解到什麼程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
8764.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
8766.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
為什麼會這樣改來改去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
8766.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
8768.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
那我們的部分當然就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
8768.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
8770.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
他全社會防衛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
8770.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
8772.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
韌性結合我們的漢光演習 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
8772.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
8774.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
所以是在漢光演習的時事期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
8774.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
8776.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
依照漢光演習的一個進展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
8776.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
8778.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
來加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
8778.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
8780.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
我們全民的這個防衛的意識 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
8780.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
8782.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
那所以才會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
8782.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
8784.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
這樣子的一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
8784.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
8786.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
就是說可能在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
8786.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
8788.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
面臨緊急狀況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
8788.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
8790.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
確實會有這個狀況發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
8790.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
8792.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
那所以讓民眾能夠理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
8792.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
8794.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
然後讓民眾能夠知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
8794.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
8796.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
有這樣子的一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
8796.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
8798.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
就是遇到戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
8798.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
8800.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
沒有網路的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
8800.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
8802.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
其實這個也不用遠訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
8802.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
8804.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
你把網路關掉大家都知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
8806.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
8808.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
所以朋友本期要了解說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
8808.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
8810.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
我們如果一直在本期要強調說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
8810.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
8812.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
我們一直強調2027很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
8812.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
8814.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
那我們國防的韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
8814.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
8816.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
到2027我們要達到一個怎麼樣的程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
8816.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
8818.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
當然我們在這一次的演習裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
8818.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
8820.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
民眾有體驗到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
8820.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
8822.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
真的遇到戰時的時候他的網路速度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
8822.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
8824.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
會下降甚至完全沒有通訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
8824.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
8826.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
那在這一個過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
8826.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
8828.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
我們收集到的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
8828.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
8830.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
那包括未來我們要怎麼樣因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
8830.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
8832.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
如果面對這件事情我們要做什麼樣的準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
8832.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
8834.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
甘有這樣的心得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
8834.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
8836.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
就我們國軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
8836.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
8838.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
我們國軍來講我們國軍就會按照 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
8838.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
8840.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
我們這個所謂的PACE |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
8840.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
8842.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
就是PACE |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
8842.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
8844.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
我們這個主要次要應急跟緊急 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
8844.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
8846.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
這些我們本來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
8846.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
8848.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
我們國軍本身就要去模擬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
8848.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
8850.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
8850.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
8852.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
網路可能會在斷掉的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
8852.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
8854.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
我們的替代方案是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
8854.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
8856.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
那甚至我們這個替代方案還會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
8856.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
8858.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
斷掉的情況之下我們這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
8858.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
8860.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
應急的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
8860.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
8862.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
最後緊急的狀況是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
8862.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
8864.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
這本來就是我們所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
8864.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
8866.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
不管是通訊還是直管的系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
8866.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
8868.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
裡面都要去演練的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
8868.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
8870.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
8870.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
8872.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
現在將全社會防衛人員納進來之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
8872.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
8874.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
8874.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
8876.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
讓民眾能夠了解事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
8876.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
8878.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
是有發生這種狀況的可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
8878.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
8880.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
那當然一開始的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
8880.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
8882.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
這個實施的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
8882.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
8884.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
強度跟實施的地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
8884.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
8886.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
也許一開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
8886.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
8888.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
我想有一些考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
8888.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
8890.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
那我想我的理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
8890.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
8892.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
是最後應該是會全面擴及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
8892.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
8894.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
全國的地區這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
8894.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
8896.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
所以我覺得演習最終目的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
8896.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
8898.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
透過演習的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
8898.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
8900.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
演習的過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
8900.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
8902.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
去模擬情況我們會設定一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
8902.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
8904.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
解決的方案嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
8904.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
8906.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
所以我們才有演訓嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
8906.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
8908.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
對所以像這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
8908.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
8910.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
大家就會知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
8910.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
8912.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
那在醫療在金融 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
8912.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
8914.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
在這個交通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
8914.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
8916.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
8916.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
8918.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
救災也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
8918.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
8920.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
這些部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
8920.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
8922.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
都有可能面臨這些狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
8922.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
8924.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
那各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
8924.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
8926.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
所以這是跨部會我在說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
8926.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
8928.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
為什麼這由行政院來主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
8928.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
8930.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
因為這是整個跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
8930.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
8932.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
在面臨這個狀況之下他們要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
8932.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
8934.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
一個準備計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
8934.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
8936.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
那我想我們國軍的部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
8936.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
8938.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
一直在演訓當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
8938.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
8940.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
國軍部裡面應該有得到一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
8940.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
8942.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
心得包括說真的發生了說我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
8942.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
8944.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
怎麼來整個各部會應該是這樣嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
8945.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
8947.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
對我們現在還有進一步課題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
8947.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
8949.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
就是軍民整合協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
8949.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
8951.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
的這個部分你會涉及到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
8951.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
8953.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
以後在緊急狀況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
8953.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
8955.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
我們需要靠民間部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
8955.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
8957.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
跟民間部會來進行協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
8957.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
8959.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
資源的這個運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
8959.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
8961.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
等等這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
8961.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
8963.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
那軍民的網路 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
8963.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
8965.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
就是說網路斷掉之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
8965.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
8967.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
軍民的這個整合協調本身就是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
8967.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
8969.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
課題那這個確實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
8969.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
8971.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
現在全世界防衛隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
8971.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
8973.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
結合漢光的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
8973.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
8975.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
重要的背景意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
8975.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
8977.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
相信這一次的演習應該也給 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
8977.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
8979.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
我們國防部這邊還有各部會得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
8979.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
8981.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
很多的訊息在未來遇到這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
8981.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
8983.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
情況要怎麼做那我們講到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
8983.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
8985.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
部隊還是回到作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
8985.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
8987.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
那部隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
8987.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
8989.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
能不能夠持續作戰其實最終的目的還是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
8989.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
8991.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
回到人嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
8991.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
8993.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
我們還要談到人這塊人力這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
8993.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
8995.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
可是我們目前的主戰的部隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
8995.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
8997.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
邊線比大概到七到八成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
8997.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
8999.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
那勤務部隊甚至更 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
8999.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
9001.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
低那我跟你講我們國軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
9001.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
9003.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
雖然努力在做招募 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
9003.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
9005.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
也小幅的調整軍人待遇但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
9005.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
9007.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
機制人力其實相當吃緊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
9007.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
9009.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
那加上你連續平反的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
9009.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
9011.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
延續還要推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
9011.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
9013.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
數位化的轉型西式裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
9013.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
9015.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
的換裝我想官兵的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
9015.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
9017.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
一定會更重所以我們講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
9017.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
9019.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
更白一點說現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
9019.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
9021.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
壓力已經很重了搞不好還沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
9021.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
9023.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
到打仗部隊就先 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
9023.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
9025.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
被我們內號這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
9025.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
9027.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
拖垮了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
9056.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
9058.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
因為剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
9058.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
9060.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
劉委員在質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
9060.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
9062.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
我們黃市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
9062.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
9064.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
已經有做了一些說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
9064.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
9066.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
是不是再請他做一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
9066.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
9068.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
9068.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
9070.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
我們這個有區分幾個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
9070.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
9072.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
第一個部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
9072.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
9074.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
9074.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
9076.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
需要性的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
9076.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
9078.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
事實上我們過去三年當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
9078.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
9080.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
已經做相當幅度的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
9080.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
9082.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
已經降低了第二個部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
9082.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
9084.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
人的部分人的部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
9084.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
9086.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
這個關鍵就是我們目前規劃在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
9086.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
9088.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
整個兵力結構調整裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
9088.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
9090.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
過去可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
9090.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
9092.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
一個人會兼任兩個業務的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
9092.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
9094.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
這個狀況我們會全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
9094.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
9096.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
把它做一個解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
9096.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
9098.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
這個單位如果他應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
9098.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
9100.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
需要兩個幕僚的這個位置需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
9100.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
9102.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
兩個幕僚我們就要編兩個幕僚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
9102.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
9104.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
這個已經做過調整最後一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
9104.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
9106.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
我們系統的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
9105.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
9107.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
9107.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
9109.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
預劃從明年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
9109.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
9111.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
我們的整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
9111.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
9113.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
以人事跟後勤 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
9113.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
9115.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
這些行政類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
9115.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
9117.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
業務的部分我們會採取上雲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
9117.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
9119.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
跟整個系統作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
9119.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
9121.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
來降低人員在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
9121.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
9123.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
查詢搜索的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
9123.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
9125.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
他所需要的時間來降低他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
9125.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
9127.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
工作負荷那有關於整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
9127.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
9129.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
規劃的部分如果委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
9129.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
9131.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
希望進一步了解的話我們可以到委員辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
9131.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
9133.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
針對我們未來人事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
9133.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
9135.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
行政這些系統的進進措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
9135.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
9137.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
來跟委員做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
9140.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
9142.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
我們其實在人力上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
9142.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
9144.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
你現在未來的少子化人力一定會短缺 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
9144.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
9146.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
情況下你勤務上不做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
9146.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
9148.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
加上本席提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
9148.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
9150.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
不管是你的形式裝備的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
9150.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
9152.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
要換裝人員的訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
9152.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
9154.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
他都會造成工作的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
9154.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
9156.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
我希望本席希望就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
9156.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
9158.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
我們希望不要在真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
9158.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
9160.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
還沒有上戰場之後我們光是這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
9160.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
9162.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
內耗的行政程序就把人員都耗盡了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
9162.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
9164.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
那講形式的裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
9164.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
9166.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
跟數位化陸續進場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
9166.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
9168.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
你不只要學新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
9168.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
9170.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
系統你要兼顧原本的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
9170.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
9172.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
戰備跟演訓嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
9172.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
9174.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
那你再加上這個組織結構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
9174.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
9176.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
也要平衡的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
9176.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
9178.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
精神力戰力應該不是只有要求官兵說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
9178.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
9180.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
你們要忍耐也不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
9180.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
9182.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
只靠著說要犧牲奉獻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
9182.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
9184.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
就可以解決這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
9184.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
9186.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
我想國軍還是回到最務實的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
9186.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
9188.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
是從待遇休假家庭支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
9188.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
9190.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
還有領導管理方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
9190.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
9192.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
來真正提出改善的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
9192.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
9194.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
我想不過本席最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
9194.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
9196.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
接到一個反應就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
9196.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
9198.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
他只是換個名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
9198.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
9200.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
官兵那個陰影的加級就沒有辦法如期的發放 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
9200.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
9202.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
甚至要等到一兩個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
9202.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
9204.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
甚至更久 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
9204.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
9206.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
我想請問部長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
9206.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
9208.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
國軍是為了什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
9208.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
9210.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
您講的可能是我們之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
9210.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
9212.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
我們將我們一直在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
9212.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
9214.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
做組織編裝的一個調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
9214.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
9216.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
那在組織編裝調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
9216.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
9218.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
9218.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
9220.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
譬如說最明顯就是無人機 |
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9220.57 |
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大隊那這個無人機的大隊 |
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9222.57 |
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他是用原來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
9224.57 |
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9226.57 |
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譬如說海軍陸戰隊的火力營 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
9226.57 |
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9228.57 |
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或者是這個 |
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那目標連 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
9230.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
9232.57 |
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然後轉過來那同樣原來是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
9232.57 |
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9234.57 |
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屬於戰鬥部隊 |
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9234.57 |
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9236.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
那領這個第一級的戰鬥部隊 |
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9236.57 |
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9238.57 |
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那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
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9240.57 |
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那因為人總在後面的審核 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
9240.57 |
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9242.57 |
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我們要跟他溝通 |
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9242.57 |
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9244.57 |
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那所以我們現在已經跟人總協調了 |
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9244.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
9246.57 |
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我們以後做組織編裝調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
9246.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
9248.57 |
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我們都事先會告知 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
9248.57 |
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9250.57 |
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我們會進行協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
9250.57 |
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9252.57 |
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那只要是符合這個屬於戰鬥部隊定義的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
9252.57 |
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9254.57 |
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那我們都 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
9254.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
9256.57 |
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都會希望能夠不延誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
9256.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
9258.57 |
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因為部長本席其實很疑惑就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
9258.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
9260.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
其實是一樣的這一群人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
9260.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
9262.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
然後因為任務改變可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
9262.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
9264.57 |
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人還是在嘛 譬如說像以前那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
9264.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
9266.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
最早叫摩布旅嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
9266.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
9268.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
然後改叫機部旅嘛 |
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9268.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
9270.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
然後現在叫聯兵旅嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
9270.57 |
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9272.57 |
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一樣的人在做一樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
9272.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
9274.57 |
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可是因為名稱改變之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
9272.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
9274.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
部長剛才提到是他的戰鬥加級可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
9274.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
9276.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
因為這樣子慢了一個月或兩個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
9276.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
9278.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
或三個月可是其實你也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
9278.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
9280.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
我們志願一師兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
9280.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
9282.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
他每個月生家裡面開銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
9282.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
9284.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
他都安生好所以影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
9284.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
9286.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
咱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
9286.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
9288.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
就在下個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
9288.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
9290.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
9292.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
9294.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
我們是不是也看到感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
9294.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
9296.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
我們的主持是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
9296.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
9298.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
是不是我們主持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
9297.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
9299.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
擴張的太快 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
9299.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
9301.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
快到讓行政單位跟不上喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
9301.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
9303.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
我想這樣講有點誇張是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
9303.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
9305.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
是我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
9305.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
9307.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
我們要圖顯是不是人力少到連作業基本都受影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
9309.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
9311.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
這跟人力的減少無關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
9311.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
9313.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
這是跟我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
9313.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
9315.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
要依據我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
9315.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
9317.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
這個作戰的需求我們調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
9317.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
9319.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
我們的邊裝那我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
9319.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
9321.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
需要我們現在已經跟人總 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
9321.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
9323.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
已經協調了我們事先就會在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
9323.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
9325.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
邊裝調整的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
9325.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
9327.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
會先告知 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
9327.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
9329.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
包括就整個我們新師結構的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
9329.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
9331.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
的問題其實一直都存在嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
9331.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
9333.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
因為你看有本鳳有加級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
9333.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
9335.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
有加一下這麼多東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
9335.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
9337.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
因為我們主持在調整的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
9337.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
9339.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
在作業上影響的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
9339.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
9341.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
而影響到官兵的權利的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
9341.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
9343.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
我想倒不如就按照去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
9343.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
9345.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
通過的那個軍人加薪法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
9345.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
9347.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
直接把一萬五全部拿到新師去發放 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
9347.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
9349.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
反而更直接也讓全體官兵都受惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
9349.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
9351.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
也讓全體官兵都受惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
9351.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
9353.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
不過現在你遇到連個加級都還會中斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
9353.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
9355.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
9355.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
9357.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
我跟你講那個國防韌性不只是武器的韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
9357.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
9359.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
也不是系統韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
9359.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
9361.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
最重要的是什麼就是人的韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
9361.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
9363.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
我想只有官兵他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
9363.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
9365.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
撐得住留得住願意站 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
9366.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
9368.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
而且能夠持續的站 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
9368.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
9370.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
我們國家的戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
9370.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
9372.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
才能夠真正的武長對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
9373.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
9377.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
我們會持續的檢討各項加級的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
9377.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
9379.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
好啦謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
9379.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
9381.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
我們也期許說部長再領帶一下我們整個國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
9381.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
9383.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
不只在特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
9384.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
9386.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
我想官兵的權利跟身心健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
9386.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
9392.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
才是真的部長還有各位長官你們真的要照顧的範圍才是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
9392.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
9396.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
那也讓謝謝部長謝謝市長謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
9396.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
9398.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
9399.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
9401.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
謝謝黃委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
9402.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
9406.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
接下來請王安祥委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
9411.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
9413.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
感謝主席有請顧部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
9413.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
9415.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
請顧部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
9422.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
9424.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
是王委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
9424.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
9426.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
部長好我想今天專報非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
9426.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
9430.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
因為過去我們都比較重視這個physical的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
9430.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
9434.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
不過這幾年其實這個不管各行各業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
9434.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
9438.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
或是我們在學校裡面其實針對這個mental心理的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
9438.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
9440.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
其實都有非常多的著墨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
9440.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
9444.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
那今天那個主題當然是這個所謂的心理韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
9444.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
9446.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
不過我想心理韌性開始之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
9446.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
9448.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
應該是要有一個健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
9448.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
9450.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
健康的心理述詞應該非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
9450.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
9452.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
那在今天那個你們提供的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
9452.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
9454.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
其實在那個第三頁裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
9454.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
9457.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
也提到那個要有就是在那個每個每季 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
9457.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
9463.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
其實我們都有提供這個兩小時的那個心理的衛生的這個教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
9463.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
9467.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
我想了解一下這個大概教育的主要的content內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
9467.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
9470.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
或者是它的實方式大概是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
9473.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
9475.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
部長好我是政戰局局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
9475.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
9479.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
跟您報告有關於主要是針對部隊的適應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
9479.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
9482.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
以及遇到困難問題的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
9482.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
9486.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
可以尋找解決或者是協助的一個對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
9486.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
9489.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
是是我知道因為現在基本上我剛剛說過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
9489.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
9491.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
這個在外面的事業單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
9491.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
9496.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
其實大家都有配置這種所謂的心理師的這樣的一個概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
9496.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
9497.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
我也有去查了一下資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
9497.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
9500.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
我知道軍方現在有推動這個心理健康照護的一個方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
9500.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
9502.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
有跟外面做一些合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
9502.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
9504.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
好像一年可以做六次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
9504.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
9507.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
那我這邊也查到大概他的那個使用人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
9507.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
9511.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
不曉得現在那個他們那個我們官兵使用的狀況怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
9511.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
9514.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
我看起來那個大概有大概810人左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
9514.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
9517.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
有4800多人次的這個使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
9517.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
9520.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
不曉得這個這個對於我們的官兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
9520.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
9523.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
他們的心理的狀況或是做一些輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
9523.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
9527.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
諮商啊這個幫助目前的狀況大概是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
9527.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
9532.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
跟委員報告他114年我們推動這個心理健康照護方案之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
9532.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
9537.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
那個官兵諮商輔導的服務大概1萬1萬多人次了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
9537.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
9539.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
1萬1萬餘人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
9539.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
9542.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
然後另外我們115年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
9542.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
9544.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
我們每年的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
9546.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
9550.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
這個次數從原有的每個人從原有的6次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
9550.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
9553.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
免費諮商提升到12次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
9553.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
9556.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
是 那那個大概他們官兵使用的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
9556.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
9559.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
就因為6次嘛現在剛剛部長說到12次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
9559.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
9562.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
是不是大家都會有這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
9562.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
9565.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
就我們家的病視感他們會自己去尋求協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
9565.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
9567.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
不曉得部長怎麼看這個事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
9567.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
9569.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
他最主要就是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
9570.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
9574.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
在我們的辛苦系統之外我們加一個民間的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
9574.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
9577.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
主要是一個比較多層次的關懷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
9577.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
9579.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
那他的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
9579.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
9581.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
好處就是說他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
9581.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
9584.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
他不會去洩漏出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
9584.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
9591.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
就是說這個心理的輔導師他除非認為他已經嚴重到有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
9591.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
9592.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
痾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
9592.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
9595.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
諮商的一個傾向了他才會回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
9595.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
9597.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
不然的話他是不會做回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
9597.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
9600.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
因此可以維護他個人的隱私 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
9600.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
9603.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
那在這個部分結合民間的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
9603.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
9606.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
這個是我們設置的一個初衷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
9606.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
9607.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
9607.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
9609.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
對所以部長因為我也去查了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
9609.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
9612.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
這個所謂的我們關於自傷的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
9612.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
9617.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
那好像看起來那個數字並沒有明顯的有一些這個往下掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
9617.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
9621.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
那是不是還有什麼更積極的作為可以因應這樣子的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
9622.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
9626.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
是這個這個委員指教的是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
9626.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
9630.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
我想我們必須要隨時來注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
9630.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
9633.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
而且要持續來進行檢討的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
9633.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
9636.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
對那麼有很多的部分確實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
9636.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
9639.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
剛剛也有其他委員指教的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
9639.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
9643.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
他可能是有一些這個經濟上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
9643.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
9644.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
9644.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
9646.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
比如說他可能去網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
9646.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
9651.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
進行這個網路的線上的一些賭博或者怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
9651.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
9657.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
或者是有一些親戚朋友的一些狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
9657.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
9662.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
然後他必須要協助那陷入的一些財務上的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
9662.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
9668.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
那就這個部分我們要如何發覺這件事情是一個課題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
9668.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
9672.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
也就是說他不見得會願意讓人家知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
9672.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
9675.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
那所以我剛剛也講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
9675.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
9680.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
我們必須在這個整個我們的政戰的體系裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
9680.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
9683.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
要去還有包括所有的同儕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
9683.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
9685.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
我們要去鼓勵就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
9685.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
9688.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
如果他有發現他的這個同儕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
9688.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
9690.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
比如說同樣同班的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
9690.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
9692.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
他有發現任何的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
9692.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
9694.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
他如果能夠回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
9694.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
9696.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
然後能夠防免這個狀況的發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
9696.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
9698.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
我們給他獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
9698.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
9702.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
然後同時這些輔導的幹部也要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
9702.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
9706.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
一層接一層的去察覺各方面的一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
9706.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
9710.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
那另外當然我們也推出一些急難貸款的一些方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
9710.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
9712.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
希望他們能夠運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
9712.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
9717.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
但是我想還是就如同委員所講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
9717.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
9719.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
我們還是有很多精進的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
9719.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
9729.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
如何能夠更去多做多存的一個關懷的網絡的建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
9729.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
9734.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
這個我想是值得我們再進一步再來加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
9734.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
9736.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
我想幹部長說的非常對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
9736.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
9738.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
我想我會這樣子問主要原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
9738.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
9740.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
我覺得還是要主動的發掘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
9740.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
9742.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
預防還是非常非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
9742.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
9746.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
就有些我想這個現在大家可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
9746.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
9747.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
在外面的事業單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
9747.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
9749.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
大家那個工作壓力都已經非常非常大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
9749.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
9750.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
常常有人在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
9750.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
9753.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
那我想在軍中其實也有一些這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
9753.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
9755.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
蠻大的一些任務的一些負荷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
9755.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
9759.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
所以我除了他們可以去尋求這些協助之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
9759.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
9761.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
我也希望有一些這種所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
9761.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
9765.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
更多的經濟的作為可以主動的發掘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
9765.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
9769.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
跟事前有一些預防的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
9769.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
9771.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
那今天另外一件很重要的事情就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
9771.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
9775.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
我想我們現在叫召對這個任性很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
9775.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
9777.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
那昨天有一篇報導非常有趣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
9777.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
9781.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
就是講部長會不會召回去當運輸排長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
9781.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
9784.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
那一篇報導裡面部長講了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
9784.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
9788.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
我想部長講了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
9788.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
9789.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
說這個是非常非常重要的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
9789.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
9791.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
部長是不是可以再這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
9791.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
9795.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
再怎麼樣去這個退伍之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
9795.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
9797.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
結合他現在的一些新的專長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
9797.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
9801.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
在這個召召的時候能夠使用這樣子的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
9801.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
9804.31 |
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跟國務委員報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
9804.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
9806.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
我們一個旅一個旅的要來檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
9806.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
9807.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
9807.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
9810.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
那大家都以為說召召好像就是把人帶進來就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
9810.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
9813.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
問題是他可能是需要是兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
9813.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
9815.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
他可能是需要是士官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
9815.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
9816.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
9816.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
9817.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
他可能需要的是排長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
9817.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
9819.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
那他還有不同的部隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
9819.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
9821.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
他有不同的專長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
9821.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
9824.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
他是這個戰車部隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
9824.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
9826.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
那他這個回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
9826.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
9828.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
你要讓他叫他回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
9828.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
9830.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
他要能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
9830.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
9831.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
9831.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
9832.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
做這個戰車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
9832.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
9833.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
而且他現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
9833.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
9834.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
砲兵部隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
9834.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
9836.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
你要回來的是那個砲兵的專長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
9836.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
9840.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
所以我才會講說這個精準的動員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
9840.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
9842.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
是一件是一件重要的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
9842.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
9844.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
想像說一個旅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
9844.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
9846.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
那他缺他邊線筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
9846.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
9847.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
不管是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
9847.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
9850.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
那我們現在要把他邊時動員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
9850.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
9853.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
這個邊時動員的這個邊時這兩個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
9853.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
9854.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
講起來就是兩個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
9854.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
9857.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
但事實上真正要運作起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
9857.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
9860.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
我們就必須要一個單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
9860.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
9862.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
一個單位檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
9862.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
9864.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
那這個當然在戰鬥部隊的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
9864.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
9866.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
我們從旅局的這個層級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
9866.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
9868.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
我們來逐步來檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
9868.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
9871.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
那這個是我們現在正在做的一些工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
9871.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
9874.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
那這當然不是只有主戰的部隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
9874.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
9877.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
包括特別當然是聯兵旅外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
9877.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
9879.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
我們主戰部隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
9879.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
9881.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
還有包括相關的守備旅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
9881.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
9884.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
還有相關後面的後備旅的動員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
9884.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
9887.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
那這些都要經過動員驗證 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
9887.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
9892.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
那我們逐步擴大這些後備動員教召的能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
9892.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
9895.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
那主要當然是在邊時跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
9895.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
9897.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
先是精準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
9897.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
9900.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
然後接下來要能夠邊時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
9900.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
9903.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
然後再擴及擴邊的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
9903.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
9906.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
這個守備或者後備部隊這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
9906.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
9907.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
所以剛剛部長也有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
9907.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
9908.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
其實報導裡面有講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
9908.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
9909.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
一個旅一個旅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
9909.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
9912.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
這個不曉得部長覺得這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
9912.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
9916.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
我們說這個審查或是做評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
9916.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
9918.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
這個大概需要多久的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
9918.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
9920.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
然後做一個全面性的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
9920.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
9925.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
我們事實上已經是在進行了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
9925.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
9926.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
9928.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
9931.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
這個評估的部分已經差不多完成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
9931.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
9934.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
我們接下來是要進行驗證 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
9934.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
9936.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
特別我們陸軍的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
9936.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
9939.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
我想我們先來先來做一些驗證 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
9939.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
9941.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
是是因為我們覺得這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
9941.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
9943.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
現在因為武器這個一直在更迭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
9943.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
9945.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
那個是不是非常非常快 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
9945.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
9948.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
然後怎麼樣運用這些退伍的這些人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
9948.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
9950.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
基本上我覺得非常非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
9950.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
9952.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
我也很開心看到這樣的報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
9952.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
9954.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
希望國防部這個這個針對這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
9954.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
9955.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
因為韌性嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
9955.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
9956.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
所以大家都講韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
9956.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
9959.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
韌性能夠好好運用這些退伍官兵的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
9959.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
9962.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
他的現在他可能會過去有一個他的他的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
9962.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
9964.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
那現在他可能有一些新的職能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
9964.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
9966.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
希望能夠妥善的運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
9966.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
9967.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
對對對我當時是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
9967.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
9968.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
所以我做例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
9968.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
9971.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
我這樣意思說我是運輸排長隊伍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
9971.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
9972.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
那我在兵級資料上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
9972.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
9974.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
應該還是寫運輸排長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
9974.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
9976.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
是是我覺得這個很吸睛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
9976.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
9977.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
昨天那個報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
9977.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
9978.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
大家都想去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
9978.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
9979.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
那我下來考上律師以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
9979.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
9982.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
也許如果從動員的角度看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
9982.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
9985.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
我應該是要動員到軍法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
9985.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
9987.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
軍法因為軍法的部隊裡面去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
9987.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
9990.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
但是我我我當時一關沒有考上軍法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
9990.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
9991.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
我是考上運輸 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
9991.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
9994.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
所以是當去當運輸排長這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
9994.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
9996.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
我想這個這個很重要啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
9996.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
9997.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
那我們一起來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
9997.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
9998.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
謝謝謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
10000.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
10001.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
10001.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
10004.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
接下來請鄭政前鄭政前鄭政前委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
10004.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
10007.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
請蘇清泉蘇清泉蘇清泉委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
10007.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
10010.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
請鍾嘉斌鍾嘉斌鍾嘉斌委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
10010.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
10012.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
請陳冠廷委員上台質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
10016.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
10017.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
主席我們請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
10017.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
10018.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
請顧部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
10026.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
10027.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
10027.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
10030.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
最近我們看到一些新聞報導說有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
10030.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
10031.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
他們說梅雨老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
10031.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
10034.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
那部長接受這一個專訪指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
10034.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
10039.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
美方在各方面跟我們國家的合作是越來越深層 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
10039.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
10041.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
是不是部長可以簡單講一下是有多深層 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
10041.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
10047.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
那有多麼的比我們想像中超越的合作的範圍跟廣度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
10047.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
10048.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
聽起來是蠻好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
10050.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
10056.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
我想我們都台美之間我們都會維持一個常態的訓練交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
10056.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
10063.19 |
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那藉其舉這個美方的這個實戰經驗來提升我們的整體戰力 |
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那我想雙方我只是說明我們雙方這些軍事的交流與合作是越來越緊密 |
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我想當然 |
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我當時就裝好也是講到這裡 |
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在詳細的部分我想也不適宜公開再說說明 |
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那最近應該說在幾個月前 |
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那我們在辦理我自己本身在辦理這個無人載具論壇的時候 |
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那有一些美方的海軍的就推薦你說我們的共同操作性 |
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它比起這個日韓那比起英澳那是比較往下幾層的 |
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因為我們過去沒有這個 |
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夠深層的合作演練 |
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那也不是邦交國那也不是真正意義的同盟國 |
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那這個部分會不會未來跟更多美方人士到台灣 |
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在各個層面接受提升台灣防衛作戰能力的時候 |
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能夠把這個互相可操作性的這個部分來去給它提高 |
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未來還會有因為如果說我們這麼深層的合作的話 |
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這麼多方面的合作這麼多的美軍老師在台灣的話 |
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那之前這些退役將領們退役的海軍這些將軍們 |
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他們所說的不可互操性是不是這個講法 |
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是不是可以隨著我們的合作的深度深化 |
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那慢慢的把我們的戰術訓練指管戰備等層面的共同的互操作性提高 |
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我想特別跟委員報告兩點 |
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第一點就是說我們是 |
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極舉美軍實戰化的經驗來強化我們的演訓的這些 |
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內容然後讓我們這個整個專案能力能夠提升 |
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那我們的聯合專案計畫我們都始終是以我們自主來這個防衛來作為前提 |
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我們沒有以美軍介入作為這個我們聯合專案計畫的一個響電 |
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這個還是要說明一下這個我想我也有做一個清楚的說明 |
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那再來當然是我們跟美方之間當然基於這個一些 |
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會做一些友盟情資的一些交換這個我想是也是一定會有的 |
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我想這個大家都能夠理解 |
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那所以有關從訓練這個的一個協助 |
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讓我們整體的聯合專案能力能夠提升 |
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10214.6 |
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然後另外我們在聯合情資的手段的情況之下 |
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然後還有其他我們跟美方的這個情資的交換 |
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都是維持我們整個對整個區域情勢掌握的一個基礎 |
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那其他的部分我想我就不再多說 |
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謝謝部長 |
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所以原則上就是我們必須要有自主作戰的決心 |
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那當然是能夠跟美方有更深的合作 |
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跟廣泛的合作然後共同操作性上面的向上的話 |
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是就如同你之前在媒體上面講的 |
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是已經有基礎而且會越來越深 |
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越來越廣 |
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因為你講到這個 |
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我想我們還是透過這個 |
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透過我們加強的自我防衛能力 |
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然後跟友盟國家來建立共同嚇阻 |
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跟這個合作應變的能力 |
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我想這個是我們的一個重點 |
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好謝謝 |
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那 |
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謝謝陳冠田委員 |
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接下來 |
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林楚英委員 |
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林楚英委員不在 |
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已經登記質詢的委員除不在場以外 |
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均已發言完畢報告及詢答結束 |
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本日會議有羅美玲委員 |
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林楚英委員 |
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10298.27 |
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徐巧歆委員提出書面質詢 |
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10300.27 |
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請列入記錄刊登公報 |
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委員書面及口頭質詢 |
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未及答覆的部分或要求補充資料者 |
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10309.27 |
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請國防部兩週內以書面答覆 |
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委員有約定其憲者重啟鎖定 |
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那本期剛剛有特別提到 |
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就惠民營區的這個案子 |
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大概目前因為從三月已經開始履約 |
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請提供在這個目前已經進行的這個 |
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10331.27 |
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這個內容請提供相關的資料 |
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另外也請憲主部提供 |
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113年到115年整修案的這些相關的一些書面資料 |
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那本日的會議到此結束三會 |
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謝謝大家 |
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