| IVOD_ID |
17633 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17633 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
21 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-30T08:31:03+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-30T12:39:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
04:07:57 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/eeffa975d6a1e3ea36c9025ded6a2485d6a76734f73991829c076e573ffc041275b6ce8f2d5775b95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請原住民族委員會主任委員、文化部、國家通訊傳播委員會、財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會就「『海路－南島語族航海計畫』、『國際原住民族傳統競技文化交流族語節目（世界原住民族傳統運動會）』、『原住民族廣播電臺訊源傳輸及監控系統設備建置與相關基地台設置』等重大計畫執行進度、經費運用及成果認定檢討」進行專題報告，並備質詢。二、「原住民身分法」等11案：(一)繼續審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等18人擬具「原住民身分法第二條條文修正草案」案。(二)繼續審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等18人擬具「原住民身分法部分條文修正草案」案。(三)繼續審查委員郭國文等16人擬具「原住民身分法修正草案」案。(四)繼續審查委員林宜瑾等22人擬具「原住民身分法第十一條條文修正草案」案。(五)繼續審查委員高金素梅等17人擬具「原住民身分法刪除第十一條條文草案」案。(六)繼續審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等20人擬具「原住民身分法第七條條文修正草案」案。(七)審查委員黃仁等19人擬具「原住民身分法第二條條文修正草案」案。(八)審查委員黃仁等18人擬具「原住民身分法第七條條文修正草案」案。(九)審查委員盧縣一等17人擬具「原住民身分法第四條條文修正草案」案。(十)審查委員陳瑩等16人擬具「原住民身分法第五條條文修正草案」案。(十一)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等18人擬具「原住民身分法第七條條文修正草案」案。三、「原住民族基本法」等15案：(一)繼續審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具「原住民族基本法增訂第二條之二條文草案」案。(二)繼續審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等17人擬具「原住民族基本法第二十一條條文修正草案」案。(三)繼續審查委員高金素梅等21人擬具「原住民族基本法部分條文修正草案」案。(四)繼續審查委員黃仁等30人擬具「原住民族基本法第十九條條文修正草案」案。(五)繼續審查委員黃仁等26人擬具「原住民族基本法第十五條條文修正草案」案。(六)繼續審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等18人擬具「原住民族基本法增訂第六條之一條文草案」案。(七)繼續審查委員黃仁等20人擬具「原住民族基本法增訂第二十八條之一條文草案」案。(八)繼續審查委員黃仁等22人擬具「原住民族基本法第十條條文修正草案」案。(九)繼續審查委員黃仁等21人擬具「原住民族基本法第六條條文修正草案」案。(十)繼續審查委員高金素梅等20人擬具「原住民族基本法第十八條條文修正草案」案。(十一)繼續審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具「原住民族基本法第十八條條文修正草案」案。(十二)繼續審查委員盧縣一等18人擬具「原住民族基本法部分條文修正草案」案。(十三)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等17人擬具「原住民族基本法部分條文修正草案」案。(十四)審查委員林宜瑾等18人擬具「原住民族基本法第二條條文修正草案」案。(十五)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等21人擬具「原住民族基本法第二十一條、第二十一條之一及第二十一條之二條文修正草案」案。【法案進行逐條審查】） |
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1801.6 |
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1803.66 |
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Bolt |
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1806.76 |
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1810 |
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1819 |
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1821.06 |
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1822.56 |
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1823.96 |
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1823.96 |
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1825.96 |
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1855.96 |
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1857.96 |
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1857.96 |
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1859.96 |
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1861.96 |
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1863.96 |
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1865.96 |
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1865.96 |
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1867.96 |
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1867.96 |
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1869.96 |
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1869.96 |
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1871.96 |
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1871.96 |
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1873.96 |
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1875.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
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1875.96 |
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1877.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
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1877.96 |
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1879.96 |
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1881.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
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1881.96 |
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1883.96 |
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1883.96 |
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1885.96 |
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1885.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
1887.96 |
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1887.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
1889.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
請宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
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1889.96 |
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1891.96 |
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1891.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
1893.96 |
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1893.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
1895.96 |
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請宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
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1895.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
1897.96 |
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請宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
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1897.96 |
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1899.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
請宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
1899.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
1901.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
請宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
1901.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
1903.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
請宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
1903.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
1905.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
請宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
1905.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
1907.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
請宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
1907.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
1909.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
請宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
1909.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
1911.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
請出示 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
1911.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
1913.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
請出示 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
1913.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
1915.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
請出示 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
1915.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
1917.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
1917.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
1918.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
日即第六種 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
1918.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
1920.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
中文夥伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
1920.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
1921.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
1921.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
1922.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
torpedo |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
1922.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
1923.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
1923.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
1924.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
1924.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
1925.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
1925.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
1927.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
1927.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
1928.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
1928.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
1930.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
1930.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
1931.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
1931.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
1933.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
1933.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
1934.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
羅boxing |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
1934.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
1936.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
理事法 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
1936.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
1937.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
司法 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
1937.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
1938.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
阿 fundamentals |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
1938.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
1941.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
文化部國家通訊傳播委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
1941.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
1944.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
1944.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
1946.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
舊海陸南島宇族航海計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
1946.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
1950.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
國際原住民族傳統競技文化交流族與節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
1950.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
1953.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
世界原住民族傳統運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
1953.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
1957.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
原住民族廣播電台訊源傳輸及監控系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
1957.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
1961.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
設備建置與相關基地台設置等重大計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
1961.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
1964.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
執行進度 經費運用及成果認定檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
1964.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
1967.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
進行專題報告並被質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
1967.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
1968.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
討論事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
1997.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
1998.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
第11條條文草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
1998.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
2001.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
繼續審查委員鄭天才等20人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
2001.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
2005.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
原住民身份法第7條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
2005.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
2008.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
審查委員黃仁等19人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
2008.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
2010.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
原住民身份法第2條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
2010.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
2013.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
審查委員黃仁等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
2013.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
2016.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
原住民身份法第7條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
2016.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
2018.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
審查委員盧憲一等17人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
2018.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
2021.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
原住民身份法第4條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
2021.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
2023.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
審查委員陳瑩等16人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
2023.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
2026.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
原住民身份法第5條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
2026.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
2029.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
審查委員吳立華等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
2029.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
2032.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
原住民身份法第7條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
2033.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
2035.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
2原住民基本法等15案 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
2036.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
2038.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
1繼續審查委員吳立華等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
2038.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
2040 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
擬具原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
2040.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
2042.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
增訂第2條至2條文草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
2042.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
2044.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
繼續審查委員吳立華等17人 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
2044.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
2046.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
擬具原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
2046.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
2049.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
第21條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
2049.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
2052 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
繼續審查委員高晶素梅等21人 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
2052 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
2053.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
擬具原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
2053.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
2055.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
部分條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
2055.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
2058.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
繼續審查委員黃仁等30人 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
2058.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
2061.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
擬具原住民基本法第19條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
2061.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
2064.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
繼續審查委員黃仁等26人 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
2064.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
2068.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
擬具原住民基本法第15條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
2068.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
2070.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
繼續審查委員政天才等18人 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
2070.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
2072.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
擬具原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
2073.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
2075.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
增訂第六條至一條文草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
2075.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
2077.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
繼續審查委員黃仁等20人 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
2077.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
2079.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
擬具原住民基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
2079.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
2082.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
增訂第28條至1條文草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
2082.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
2084.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
繼續審查委員黃仁等22人 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
2084.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
2088.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
擬具原住民族基本法第十條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
2088.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
2091.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
繼續審查委員黃仁等二十一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
2091.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
2095.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
擬具原住民族基本法第六條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
2095.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
2097.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
繼續審查委員高進素梅等二十人 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
2097.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
2102.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
擬具原住民族基本法第十八條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
2102.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
2104.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
繼續審查委員鄭天才等十七人 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
2104.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
2108.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
擬具原住民族基本法第十八條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
2108.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
2111.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
繼續審查委員盧憲一等十八人 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
2111.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
2114.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
擬具原住民族基本法部分條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
2114.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
2116.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
審查委員吳立華等十七人 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
2116.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
2120.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
擬具原住民族基本法部分條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
2120.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
2122.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
審查委員林一靖等十八人 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
2122.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
2125.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
擬具原住民族基本法第二條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
2125.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
2127.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
審查委員吳立華等二十一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
2127.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
2130.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
擬具原住民族基本法第二十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
2130.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
2135.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
第二十一條之一及第二十二條之二條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
2135.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
2136.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
2138.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
2140.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
好 本次議程報告事項與討論事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
2140.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
2144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
詳並詢答 現在介紹在場委員及列席官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
2144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
2145.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
首先介紹王美慧委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
2145.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
2147.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
大家好 歡迎到站 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
2147.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
2148.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
吳齊銘委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
2150.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
2151.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
蘇巧慧委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
2152.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
2155.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
我們介紹列席官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
2155.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
2159.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
又到了袁明宇的教學時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
2159.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
2164.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
我們原住民族委員會常務副主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
2165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
2165.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
阿達六 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
2166.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
2168.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
還有我們裁斷法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
2168.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
2172.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
原住民族文化事業基金會董事長馬羅斯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
2173.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
2176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
其餘官員請自行參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
2177.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
2180.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
那我們是不是就不進行提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
2185.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
2186.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
好 現在進行報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
2186.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
2191.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
請我們原住民族委員會副主任委員阿達六報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
2196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
2198.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
兩項專題報告及討論事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
2198.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
2199.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
所列法人請一併報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
2200.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
2202.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
好 主席各位委員先進 |
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2202.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
2206.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
今日受邀海陸南島宇族航海計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
2206.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
2211.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
國際原住民族傳統競技文化交流主義節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
2211.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
2217.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
以及原住民族廣播電台訊源傳輸及監控系統設備建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
2217.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
2220.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
相關基地台建置等三項計畫之執行進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
2220.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
2224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
經費的運用以及成果進行專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
2224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
2226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
以下分為三個部分報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
2226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
2229.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
第一海陸南島宇族航海計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
2229.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
2234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
本計畫目的在重建台灣南宇與菲律賓巴丹群島 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
2234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
2237.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
兼中斷三百年的海上航路 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
2237.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
2241.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
我們已經完成了建造二十人座的傳統拼板舟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
2241.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
2243.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
500樣黃金友誼號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
2243.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
2246.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
並在今年的6月15號到18號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
2246.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
2250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
由我國南宇航行至菲律賓巴丹群島 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
2250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
2253.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
完成跨越巴士海峽的歷史性航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
2253.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
2258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
隨後在6月26日將該船贈予巴丹省政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
2258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
2262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
象徵南島民族文化的再次連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
2262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
2265.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
這個總經費是3850萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
2265.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
2270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
由本會以文化部海洋委員會以及外交部捐助原文會辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
2270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
2274.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
目前已達成航行與文化交流等階段性目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
2274.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
2278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
後續將持續進行足以影音節目的後製 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
2279.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
2283.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
以保存寶貴的傳統詔咒技術與航海知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
2283.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
2287.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
第二,國際原住民族傳統經濟文化交流主義的節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
2287.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
2290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
就是世界原住民族傳統運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
2291.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
2296.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
在114年12月辦理2025年世界原住民族傳統運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
2296.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
2303.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
邀請來自十個國家28支代表隊約1100名選手參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
2303.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
2308.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
進賽項目包含了射箭傳統、樂舞等10項競技 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
2308.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
2311.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
執行的經費大概在8500萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
2311.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
2314.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
除完成賽事接待與競技外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
2314.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
2319.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
重點在於透過原住民族電視台進行轉播與數位傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
2319.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
2324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
將國際交流成果轉化為豐富的主義文化教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
2324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
2326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
衍生活動的保存效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
2326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
2332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
第三個部分,原住民族廣播電台訓言傳輸及相關基地台的建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
2332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
2336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
本計畫依據行政院核定的原住民族廣播電台設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
2336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
2340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
第二期110年到115年的修正計畫辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
2340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
2343.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
目的在積極提升廣播服務涵蓋率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
2343.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
2347.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
截至今年6月底,規劃的37座廣播站中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
2347.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
2351.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
已經完成了32座並取得執照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
2351.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
2354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
目前電播的涵蓋率已達到82% |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
2354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
2357.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
原住民族人口的涵蓋率達到78% |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
2358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
2363.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
有效強化了原鄉的公共資訊與防災傳遞的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
2363.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
2370.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
剩餘的5座站點因為涉及地形地質、土地使用等複雜因素進度稍有延宕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
2370.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
2376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
本會已督導研文會針對個案檢討工法或重新辦理採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
2376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
2380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
確保公共資源能妥善的運用,並如期的結案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
2380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
2384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
綜合以上的報告,本會將持續監督研文會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
2384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
2388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
確保各項計畫經費透明進度落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
2388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
2391.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
對於涉及跨部會或高難度的工程案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
2391.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
2395.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
我們將加強風險管控與履約督導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
2395.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
2400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
務求達成原住民族文化傳承,以媒體服務的最高效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
2400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
2405.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
另外,接著針對這個原住民身分法以及原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
2405.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
2407.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
部分條文修正草案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
2407.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
2413.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
有關委員所提的原住民身分法草案第一案至第六案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
2413.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
2418.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
及委員所提的原住民族基本法部分條文修正草案第一案至十二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
2418.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
2425.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
本會之前在114年11月26日第11屆第四會期第13次全體委員會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
2425.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
2433.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
及114年5月22日第11屆第3會期第21次全體委員會議提報意見在案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
2433.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
2439.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
以下,僅分別就委員所提的原住民身分法第7案至第11案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
2439.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
2446.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
以及原住民族基本法第13案至第15案之各項修正草案說明如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
2446.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
2448.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
原住民身分法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
2448.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
2453.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
原住民認定應兼顧血統、民族認統及歷史脈絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
2453.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
2457.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
原住民身分法攸關身分認定及相關權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
2457.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
2463.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
修法應兼顧立法的目的、制度的安定以及族人的權益,應審慎處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
2463.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
2468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
第二條如果刪除登記的要件,將使平地原住民身分產生混淆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
2468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
2470.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
建議維持現行規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
2470.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
2478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
第7條如將例外適用擴及曾孫等後代,可能會過度延伸,以審慎評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
2478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
2485.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
此外,取得身分任意具備傳統名字或從原住民父母姓知認同表徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
2485.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
2492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
至於修法前死亡之子女,得準用規定取得身分,本會尊重修法方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
2492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
2495.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
並建議明定5年的過渡期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
2495.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
2501.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
原住民族基本法的部分,本會支持持續完善原住民族權利保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
2501.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
2507.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
但修法仍應兼顧既有的法治、實務的運作、部落自主及族人的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
2507.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
2511.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
對於已有法律明定的事項,亦避免重複規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
2511.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
2518.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
例如平普原住民族權利,以及原住民族日、歲食祭、放假等事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
2518.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
2524.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
現行法律已有規定,建議避免重複入法,涉及各機關權責者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
2524.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
2528.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
本會尊重主管機關意見及大院的審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
2528.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
2535.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
有關21條諮商同意的制度,建議明確規範土地制度諮商同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
2535.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
2538.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
參與權力限制與損失補償 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
2538.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
2544.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
原住民族基本法是權利保障的尚未規範,不宜增列法則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
2544.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
2550.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
若以刑罰介入部落內部的決策,可能造成檢舉及對立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
2550.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
2554.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
影響族群的和諧,應審慎評估並充分溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
2554.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
2558.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
以確保制度的穩健、權利保障的周全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
2558.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
2562.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
以上兩項報告,進行主席及各位委員指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
2562.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
2564.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
殺保馬爾拉能仔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
2564.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
2574.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
其他單位的報告,請委員自行參閱並刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
2574.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
2578.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
現在進行詢答委員質詢前,原例做幾點宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
2578.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
2585.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
本會委員及原住民委員原例質詢時間5分鐘必要時,得延長2分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
2585.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
2590.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
非本會委員質詢時間5分鐘,上午10點30分截止發言登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
2590.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
2597.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
本次會議臨時提案截止提出時間11點,與本會委員詢答完畢後處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
2597.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
2599.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
請問各位委員有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
2608.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
2613.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
現在就進行詢答,請登記第一位蘇巧會委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
2620.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
2629.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
好,謝謝主席,那我們就請副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
2629.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
2639.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
好,跟本委員報告,主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
2639.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
2648.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
保住,因為參加,照行政院主持,希拉亞族民族和定紀證明宣告典禮 |
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因此會在結束後回來列席,大概11點的時候回到委員會,以上跟委員會報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
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好,謝謝,那副主委早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
2662.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
我本來第一張是直接要問主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
但是副主委也很清楚 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
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這張照片的話,應該是在今年3月的時候,我們新北市衛方文件展開展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
2671.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
2674.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
那副主委您當天有去嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
2674.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
2677.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
沒有,因為主委已經去了嘛,對,主委在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
2677.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
2683.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
但是你應該後來也去過了吧,3月到現在有沒有機會去到過? |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
2683.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
2684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
沒有的話可以來一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
2684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
2686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
應該是那個,古仲應該有去過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
2686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
2687.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
古仲去過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
2687.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
2688.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
沒有分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
2692.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
好,沒問題,我想原民會業務是一體的,所以您應該也清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
2692.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
2696.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
那這位衛方文件展,通常服務的長者大概有多少人,你知道嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
2696.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
2698.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
20位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
2698.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
2700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
才15到20 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
2700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
2702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
那怎麼去?服務的範圍是哪邊? |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
2707.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
其實就是我們周圍,這個衛方嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
2709.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
以周圍部落為主啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
2709.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
2711.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
對,周圍部落,可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
2711.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
2713.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
調查相關原住民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
2713.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
2719.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
是,可是副主委,我們這樣在進行對話,你知道我知道,可是其他人可能不一定知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
2719.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
2725.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
我們現在在講,衛方這邊所謂的部落的時候,其實新北市的部落是屬於非常散居的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
他一個就是,快樂山、阿美家園、劍基、黃金大鎮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
2729.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
其實都小小的小小的小小的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
2731.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
2733.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
都是從外部遷進來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
2733.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
2736.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
對,所以跟我們如果在東部在談一個部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
2736.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
2739.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
好,甚至不要講那麼遠,在我們在講烏來一個部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
2739.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
2743.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
的話,其實那個規模大小是完全不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
2743.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
2746.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
所以我們現在這個所謂衛方文件展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
2746.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
2748.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
他設置的位置是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
2748.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
2753.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
所謂的,我們剛剛講的那四個阿美家園、黃金大鎮等等部落裡面嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
2756.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
不是吧?其實不是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
2757.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
不是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
2757.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
其實不是嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
2758.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
2763.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
所以簡單講就是,我們其實在新北市現在的文件展裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
2763.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
2766.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
文住民的文件展裡面,他很有可能的狀況是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
2766.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
2768.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
他找一個適當的地點設置之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
2768.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
2771.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
他是服務周邊的原民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
2773.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
而且就是散居的其他狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
2775.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
即便你稱之他為一個聚落 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
2775.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
2779.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
但其他的人數也不同於我們了解的原民傳統部落那麼大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
2779.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
2782.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
好,所以大家就來文件展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
2782.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
2786.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
絕對不是在部落裡面用步行行走就可以走到文件展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
2786.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
2790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
完全不是吧?這是要有個交通的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
2790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
2792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
所以,像在衛方這裡的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
2795.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
那他的問題會是什麼?大家想像一下嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
2795.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
2797.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
我從我居住的地方要到文件展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
2797.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
其實要嘛,這個我就是要坐公車 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
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甚至還要轉乘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
2803.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
甚至還要轉乘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
2803.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
2806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
要嘛就是這個要有志工來載我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
2809.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
因為我一定要移動啊,我要有車輛才能移動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
2809.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
2812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
好,那我精神狀態、身體狀態最好的狀況是什麼? |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
2812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
2814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
我騎腳踏車 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
2814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
2817.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
騎腳踏車自己過去這個文件展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
2817.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
2820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
好,那我們這個衛方文件展在哪邊? |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
2820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
2822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
在瑞賓公路旁邊啊、在海邊啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
2822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
2823.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
剛剛不是也說了嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
2823.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
2827.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
所以我們是騎著腳踏車的長者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
2827.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
2831.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
要穿過瑞賓公路這麼多大型車輛經過的地方之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
2831.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
2833.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
才能到達文件展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
2833.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
2835.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
主委、副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
2835.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
2838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
你不覺得這個其實很辛苦又不安全嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
2838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
2840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
對,我敢講這個沒有錯啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
2840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
2843.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
因為這個瑞芳不是我們原住民地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
2847.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
所以它不是像我們在原鄉的部落那麼集中 |
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2847.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
2849.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
所以它的交通事實上是比較閃的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
2849.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
2851.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
那我們事實上找地點也有很大的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
2851.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
2853.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
好,沒關係,我今天不是跟你討論地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
2853.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
2855.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
交通的部分我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
2855.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
2857.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
在原鄉其實很多時候是造福院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
2861.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
它直接去接送有一些更不方便的長者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
2864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
但你針對這個都園的部分我們會來檢討看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
2864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
2867.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
是用什麼方式來解決他們的交通問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
2867.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
2870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
因為這個應該不是只有瑞芳應該其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
2872.04 |
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是,我今天就是跟你用這個例子來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
2872.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
2875.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
因為事實上我新北市的族群的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
2875.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
2879.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
其實不只是原民,我在客家的時候也不停的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
2879.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
2882.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
事實上我客家的人口是僅次於桃園市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
2882.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
2884.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
我的客家人口是非常的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
2884.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
2888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
但是因為我們的居住方式等於是散居 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
2888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
2891.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
所以它不會把我列為客家重點區域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
2891.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
2894.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
所以我非常多的計畫補助其實都不能用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
2894.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
2896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
同樣的道理,在新北市我的原民也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
2896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
2900.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
你不可能把我列為一個原住民地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
2900.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
2903.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
除了烏來以外我都不是原住民地區 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
2906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
但是我的人口多不多,我的人口很多 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
2910.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
所以在這樣的狀況下,我非常多的計畫、非常多的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
2910.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
2912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
我無法申請、無法使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
2912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
2914.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
所以你看一下剛剛的交通 |
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2914.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
2916.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
我們的交通那是什麼樣的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
2916.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
2923.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
所有文件站在實施費用補助的狀況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
2923.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
2926.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
費用補助的狀況下呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
2926.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
2929.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
你看它其實是有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
2929.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
2931.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
為什麼是先這一張,下一張 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
2931.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
2936.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
它有一個在原住民地區的部分才有補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
2936.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
2940.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
原住民地區的部分才有補助C級招 |
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才有補助失能的、輕度的這些的部分 |
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但是它是只有在原民的部分才補助 |
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但是因為反過來,我要做這些補助的時候 |
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那我可以用什麼呢 |
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我的基本業務費裡面可能會有 |
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我有可能會有的是有車輛租金、郵費這些 |
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可是這些的車輛租金、郵費是給來的長者用嗎 |
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其實不是 |
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其實是在用於維護這個文件站的工作人員 |
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他可能要有車輛去租借 |
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他可能這台公路車的時候要有去郵料去使用 |
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那就算我這些人我讓他說 |
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你說用照服員去接送這些長者好了 |
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那這些人也要先找到啊 |
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或者要有另聘司機啊 |
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所以總而言之 |
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如果我騙查你的這個補助計畫裡面 |
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不管是在項目一的基本費用裡面 |
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或者是在項目二的這個量 |
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其他補助費用上面的話 |
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其實都找不到相對應剛剛我們在說的 |
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我在都市區 |
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我在非原住民地區 |
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那散居的狀況 |
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要讓長輩來參與的時候 |
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這一個交通我要怎麼處置 |
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那主委您的建議 |
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副主委您的建議會是怎麼樣 |
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跟委員報告事實上 |
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今年的業務費是有增加 |
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就陳如委員講 |
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他可能不會專門用在這個所謂的這個 |
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你今年的費用增加是增加什麼 |
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業務費就是他的遊資各方面我們有增加 |
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剛剛你有提到說在非原地區 |
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事實上是沒有這樣的實質的主義 |
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你增加多少 |
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我們大概跟那個一般的相當長 |
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你現在大部分的有些是 |
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按照人口比例嘛55到60 |
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我們最高大概就是100萬 |
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就是業務費的部分 |
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業務費最高提高到100萬 |
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但是有分級距會不同 |
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分級距 |
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那我拿翻這個表單 |
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這個資料我們要立刻拿到 |
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像我樹林文件站為例 |
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你雖然按照人口數 |
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你可以給我每年大概60萬左右的補助費 |
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聽起來好像蠻多的 |
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但是主委您知道嗎 |
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以我們的這個文件站開設使用的電費來講 |
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但季2萬 |
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夏季的電費一個月就4萬 |
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所以在這樣的狀況下 |
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我一年60萬的補助 |
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我光是電費就吃掉40萬 |
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電費就剩40萬這樣的狀況 |
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那我能夠剩多少 |
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所以你現在說好 |
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我們調高到100萬 |
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這樣聽起來好像增加很多 |
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但我也想知道 |
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以我樹林的級距來說的話 |
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60其實是落在哪個級距增加多少 |
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這個到時候我們要看這個級距的資料表 |
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我們才有辦法回答 |
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我們同不同意滿不滿意這樣的調整 |
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所以今天在這裡的話 |
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特別跟您就教的其實就是 |
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請考慮像我們新北市 |
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這樣散居的地區 |
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原住民人口有非常多 |
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但他是散居 |
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所以他不是原住民專區 |
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我們在補助人件站的時候 |
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我們應該要有相對應 |
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相對應的方式來做調整 |
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你要增加項目也好 |
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你要增加額度也好 |
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但不管哪一種 |
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我希望能夠看到對我們來講 |
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我們需要的部分 |
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第一是交通 |
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第二是我們的人口數 |
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其實相對應是多的 |
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這樣這兩個部分 |
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主委你什麼時候可以提出 |
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副主委什麼時候可以提出來 |
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我們一個禮拜給委員 |
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不是給資料喔 |
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還有你相對應的建議改進方式喔 |
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現有的資料是 |
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現有的資料你應該下午就可以傳給我 |
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不需要一個禮拜 |
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你一個禮拜我可以同意 |
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但是是你建議的方案 |
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怎麼樣的改進 |
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3148.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
怎麼樣去精進這件事情 |
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在原住民地區 |
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3151.04 |
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像委員所提點的這些問題 |
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我們一併來整理 |
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3154.04 |
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如何的解決 |
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3157.04 |
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一個禮拜之內提出這個改進的方案 |
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3158.04 |
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我們來討論這樣 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
3159.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
可以喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
3159.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
3160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
3160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
3161.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
謝謝副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
3161.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
3162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
3167.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
3169.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
我們下一位請許中信委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
3176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
3177.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
3177.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
3178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
各位同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
3178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
3180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
我們邀請原委會曾主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
3185.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
3186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
喔喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
3186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
3187.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
3187.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
3188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
3189.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
3190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
3190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
3191.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
副主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
3191.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
3194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
我今天有幾個問題要來請教您喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
3194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
3196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
不過我的主軸是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
3196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
3198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
我如果用翻字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
3198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
3199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
就沒有不敬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
3199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
3201.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
3201.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
3202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
3202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
3204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
國民政府來以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
3204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
3206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
佐政 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
3206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
3211.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
的評估組都還要到我們新市來認親 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
3211.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
3214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
我們都把它叫做法納仁親 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
3214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
3217.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
我今天是要來跟你認親 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
3217.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
3218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
跟你認親 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
3218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
3220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
第一個問題跟您請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
3220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
3225.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
我們希拉亞族原住民身份在行政院現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
3225.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
3227.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
的進度如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
3227.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
3228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
3228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
3231.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
今天早上就是希拉亞族證明的記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
3231.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
3234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
今天那個院長會公布 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
3234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
3236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
那接下來在8月中旬以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
3236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
3238.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
我們會開始做身份的登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
3238.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
3239.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
太好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
3239.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
3240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
我認為希拉亞原則上是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
3240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
3242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
已經完成了這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
3242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
3244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
階段性的一個工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
3244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
3246.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
後續當然登記還有它的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
3246.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
3247.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
這個很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
3247.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
3249.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
我們都已經有做充分的準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
3249.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
3250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
太好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
3250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
3253.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
因為剛好這幾天新化國小 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
3253.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
3255.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
在核定獎學金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
3255.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
3257.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
如果有原民身份的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
3257.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
3259.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
他們就可以申請獎學金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
3259.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
3261.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
所以這個是遲來的正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
3261.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
3263.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
非常的好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
3263.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
3265.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
第二個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
3265.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
3267.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
主委您仔細看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
3267.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
3271.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
我們希拉亞族在台南五大社 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
3271.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
3272.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
蕭榮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
3272.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
3275.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
木家六灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
3275.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
3277.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
興港 馬豆 大木匠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
3277.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
3279.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
大木匠就是新化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
3279.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
3281.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
這五色的色名 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
3281.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
3283.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
你有沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
3283.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
3286.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
興港這兩個字是純漢字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
3286.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
3287.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
3287.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
3289.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
它跟其他四個不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
3289.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
3292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
其他四個是從平埔嶼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
3292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
3293.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
用漢字寫下來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
3293.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
3297.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
蕭榮 木家六灣 大木匠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
3297.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
3299.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
所以只有興港 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
3299.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
3302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
為什麼會這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
3302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
3304.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
這個問題很難 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
3304.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
3306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
所以不是要來為難您 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
3306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
3310.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
各位看到明朝的歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
3310.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
3312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
他們認為林鳳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
3312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
3315.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
林鳳就是我們台南的林鳳營 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
3315.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
3317.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
各位喝牛奶的林鳳營 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
3317.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
3318.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
林鳳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
3318.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
3323.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
他1574年來興港設強米樑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
3323.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
3328.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
但是1603年成立的東藩紀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
3328.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
3332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
在記載我們東藩的居地的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
3332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
3334.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
他有講到雙溪口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
3334.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
3338.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
這個雙溪口很顯然是漢字的地名 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
3338.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
3340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
是漢人在那邊住 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
3340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
3342.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
這叫雙溪口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
3342.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
3344.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
他沒有提到興港 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
3344.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
3347.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
興港現在就是興市南科地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
3347.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
3353.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
為什麼陳帝沒有提到興港 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
3355.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
3359.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
因為陳帝寫東藩紀是在興港寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
3360.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
3365.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
而興港兩個漢字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
3365.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
3369.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
我個人判斷是日語 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
3369.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
3371.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
是日語 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
3371.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
3373.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
興國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
3373.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
3375.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
我怎麼講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
3375.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
3379.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
因為根據東藩紀的記載 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
3379.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
3381.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
明家精陌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
3381.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
3384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
歐寇用火槍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
3384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
3386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
火槍來攻打東藩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
3386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
3388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
東藩不敵退入山 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
3388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
3396.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
所以日本歐寇來打東藩應該沒有撤退 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
3396.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
3398.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
而留在興市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
3398.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
3402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
所以把當地地名取為興港 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
3402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
3406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
所以興港這個地名在我們明朝的歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
3406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
3407.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
很早就出現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
3407.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
3409.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
1574年就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
3409.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
3412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
所以我推估他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
3412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
3417.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
有日本取名的可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
3417.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
3419.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
我講這個故事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
3419.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
3421.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
就是要讓各位知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
3421.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
3425.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
我們台灣是一個多族群融合出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
3425.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
3427.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
尤其是平地地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
3427.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
3429.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
族群融合出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
3429.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
3433.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
也有日本血統留在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
3433.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
3436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
也有漢人的血統留在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
3436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
3438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
當然他們取的老婆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
3438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
3441.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
大部分都是我們的原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
3441.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
3445.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
這就是我們形塑我們台灣民族認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
3445.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
3447.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
一個很重要的論點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
3447.04 |
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那我怎麼來證明這個呢 |
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各位我用兩個台語的俗諺 |
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一個母親比較好生的體控座 |
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帶一個母親比較好生的體控座 |
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副主委您有聽過這個俗諺嗎 |
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第二個 |
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提前提供第一母親說 |
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提前提供第二母親說 |
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對母親非常尊重 |
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只可以顧 |
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這是因為 |
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當時漢人來都是男生 |
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都入贅到平埔族家中 |
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平埔族是母系社會 |
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繼承人家的家產 |
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所以帶一個母親比較好生的體控座 |
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3499.04 |
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我們台灣人愛母乘母是這個傳統 |
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3499.04 |
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3502.04 |
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提前提供第二母親說 |
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因為母親也去給他結婚去 |
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也去旅行那裡 |
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但是母親的財產再去給我繼承 |
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3514.04 |
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所以提前提供第二母親說 |
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母親回來後很感謝 |
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因為那時候的財產給我繼承 |
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這道理就是這樣來的 |
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3527.04 |
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所以我在這裡給主委這樣報告 |
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3527.04 |
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3532.04 |
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我們要去看這個西拉雅族跟漢族 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
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閩南人他的通婚的狀態 |
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3541.04 |
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那麼我們仍然有保留一些純的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
平埔族在台南 |
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包括我們新化的新和社區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
3553.04 |
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那我們剛才講的五個西拉雅族 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
3555.04 |
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有一個社叫做麻豆社 |
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3555.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
3557.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
現在麻豆地區 |
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3557.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
3562.04 |
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請問副主委麻豆Mata |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
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3564.04 |
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它是什麼意思 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
Mata |
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Mata眼睛 |
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沒錯 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
3575.04 |
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現在南島族的國家都還是用Mata做眼睛 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
3578.04 |
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跟我們麻豆眼睛是一樣的 |
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3582.04 |
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所以表示你看我們西拉雅族 |
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3582.04 |
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3587.04 |
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跟南島語族其實是同源 |
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3589.04 |
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其實是同源 |
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所以我們可以看到台灣跟南島語族的國家之間 |
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有非常親密的關係 |
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但是也不否認它跟日本也有關係 |
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3607.04 |
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我們在荷蘭1624年來台灣以後 |
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3609.04 |
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因為荷蘭人的待遇 |
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3613.04 |
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我們新港社有一條船 |
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3613.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
3621.04 |
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載很多新港社人到江戶去告東陽狀 |
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3621.04 |
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3622.04 |
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不是告陽狀而已 |
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3624.04 |
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他是告東陽狀 |
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3631.04 |
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而江戶幕府是由德川將軍親自來接待 |
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3631.04 |
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3636.04 |
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副主委您知道為什麼要這麼多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
3639.04 |
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去跟幕府報告 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
3641.04 |
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要去告東陽狀 |
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3642.04 |
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一個人就可以告 |
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3642.04 |
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3643.04 |
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為什麼要這麼多人去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
3643.04 |
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3645.04 |
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去江戶不用錢 |
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3645.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
3648.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
去那邊吃住不用錢 |
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3648.04 |
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3650.04 |
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為什麼要那麼多人去 |
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3653.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
那表示說新港社有共識 |
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3653.04 |
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3657.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
我們各地的首領我們都同意都來 |
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3657.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
3661.04 |
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所以幕府你出兵攻打荷蘭人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
3661.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
3663.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
荷蘭人對我們不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
3663.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
3665.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
我們社有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
3665.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
3667.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
這麼多人都來了 |
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3667.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
3669.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
這是我的解讀 |
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3671.04 |
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所以我們可以看到新港社 |
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3674.04 |
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跟日本的關係這麼密切 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
3674.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
3677.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
所以荷蘭人的文獻記載 |
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3677.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
3679.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
荷蘭人來的時候 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
3684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
已經有日本人160人的移民區 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
3687.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
而且有領袖 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
3690.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
所以中國說台灣歷史上屬於中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
3690.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
3693.04 |
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那是亂講 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
3695.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
他不是只有這樣亂講而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
3697.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
各位看到第七點 |
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3701.04 |
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中國最近說八丹群島是他的領土 |
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3701.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
3703.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
他享有主權 |
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3703.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
3707.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
他的根據為何 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
3709.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
他主要是認為說在語言上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
3709.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
3711.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
跟文化跟藍語的達悟主 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
3713.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
有非常多的相似 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
3716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
甚至是同一個族群的認知 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
3716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
3718.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
這樣的認知沒辦法成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
3718.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
3720.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
對沒有錯 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
3724.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
因為到1874年牡丹社事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
3724.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
3726.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
日本人要出兵的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
3726.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
3728.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
中國清朝還跟他講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
3728.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
3730.04 |
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仿寮以下 |
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3730.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
3732.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
叫化外之地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
3734.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
狼橋十八社 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
3734.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
3736.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
那其實他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
3736.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
3738.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
史卡羅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
3738.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
3740.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
他有一個王叫德基多 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
3742.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
卓紀篤 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
3744.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
德基多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
3746.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
李先德跟他非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
3746.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
3748.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
所以我們可以看到 |
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3748.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
3750.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
清朝到1874年 |
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3750.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
3752.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
仍然說 |
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3752.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
3754.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
仿寮以下 |
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3754.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
3756.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
是化外之地 |
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3756.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
3758.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
那藍語也是化外之地 |
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3758.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
3760.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
台東、屏東 |
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3760.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
3762.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
很多是化外之地 |
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3764.04 |
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那怎麼可以說八丹群島是屬於中國 |
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東部大概都是當時為認定在化外之地 |
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只有少數幾個地方 |
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台東、花蓮那幾個平地 |
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那我認為 |
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那我們可以看到八丹群島 |
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跟藍語之間的 |
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3782.04 |
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航行中斷剛才您報告航行300多年 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
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中斷 |
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這中斷的原因 |
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為何 |
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3790.04 |
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航海技術應該更進步 |
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3790.04 |
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3792.04 |
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為什麼會中斷 |
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我看這些 |
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文獻大概是提到說當時有一些 |
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衝突事件 |
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3800.04 |
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然後造成彼此之間後來就沒有再 |
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3800.04 |
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3802.04 |
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再同航 |
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3802.04 |
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3804.04 |
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衝突是西班牙人造成 |
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3806.04 |
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也就是說西班牙 |
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3806.04 |
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3808.04 |
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控制菲律賓的程度 |
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3808.04 |
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已經連八丹群島 |
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也受到控制 |
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3814.04 |
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所以是西班牙人 |
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3816.04 |
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控制造成我們 |
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3818.04 |
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這兩族之間 |
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航行沒辦法繼續 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
3822.04 |
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我個人的解讀是這樣 |
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3824.04 |
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所以你們這個計畫非常好 |
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3826.04 |
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而且我鼓勵你們 |
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3828.04 |
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跟南島語族不是只有 |
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3830.04 |
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跟八丹群島 |
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3830.04 |
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3832.04 |
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我們跟斐濟 |
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3832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
3834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
甚至跟紐西蘭 |
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3836.04 |
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3838.04 |
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紐西蘭的戰舞 |
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3838.04 |
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3840.04 |
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紐西蘭的戰舞 |
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3840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
3842.04 |
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跟我們原住民 |
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3842.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
3844.04 |
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那個舞蹈非常像 |
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3846.04 |
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所以那個很多文化 |
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3848.04 |
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上的相同性 |
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我們在外交上 |
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3850.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
3852.04 |
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要利用這一點 |
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3852.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
3854.04 |
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所以我今天來跟您認清 |
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3854.04 |
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3856.04 |
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是有目的的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
3858.04 |
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也就是說我們要跟 |
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3858.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
3860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
紐西蘭 |
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3860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
3862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
還有甚至火地島 |
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3862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
3864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
阿根廷的火地島 |
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3864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
3866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
還有斐濟 |
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3866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
3868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
等這些國家 |
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3868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
3870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
改善外交關係 |
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3870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
3872.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
有賴我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
3872.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
3874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
原住民出力 |
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3874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
3876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
要用這個關係 |
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3876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
3878.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
因為同遠 |
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3878.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
3880.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
你們現在怎麼不承認台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
3880.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
3882.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
我們現在台灣跟你們的關係 |
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3882.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
3884.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
應該可以更緊密 |
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3886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
而不是只有 |
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3886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
3888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
這個Parao |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
3888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
3890.04 |
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應該還有更多的國家 |
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3890.04 |
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3892.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
我們可以藉由原住民跟他們的關係 |
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3892.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
3894.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
來改善 |
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3894.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
3896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
我們現在的外交關係 |
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3896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
3898.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
包括斐濟啦 |
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3898.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
3900.04 |
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紐西蘭啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
3900.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
3902.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
甚至夏威夷也是 |
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3902.04 |
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3904.04 |
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所以拜託 |
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3904.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
3906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
副主委往這個方向 |
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3906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
3908.04 |
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協助我們的外交部 |
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3908.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
3910.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
跟我們報告事實上會裡面 |
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3910.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
3912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
針對這個南島語族的這個文化交流 |
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3912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
3914.04 |
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都已經進行了非常多年 |
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3914.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
3916.04 |
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可是你剛剛講的紐西蘭 |
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3916.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
3918.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
那些事實上我們有相關的平台 |
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3918.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
3920.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
在做不管是經貿文化交流 |
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3920.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
3922.04 |
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還有一些博物館各方面 |
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3922.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
3924.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
我們都有在做這種 |
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3924.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
3926.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
所謂原住民族的文化交流 |
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3926.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
3928.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
在外交上會有一些注意 |
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3928.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
3930.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
不只有注意所以我今天來拜託您 |
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3930.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
3932.04 |
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就是要原住民出兵 |
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3932.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
3934.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
要原住民出力 |
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3934.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
3936.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
來協助我們現在 |
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3936.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
3938.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
這個困頓的外交 |
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3938.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
3940.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
要協助 |
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3940.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
3942.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
一個最簡單的 |
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3942.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
3944.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
我們看到 |
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3944.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
3946.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
東家、諾魯他們上次來 |
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3946.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
3948.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
參加我們的海洋論壇 |
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3948.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
3950.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
我兩天都在那邊學習 |
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3950.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
3952.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
他們來都講英文 |
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3952.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
3954.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
我們這邊當然也講英文 |
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3954.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
3956.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
我內心在想 |
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3956.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
3958.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
如果能夠講他們的 |
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3958.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
3960.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
原住民母語 |
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3960.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
3962.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
那多好 |
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3962.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
3964.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
有沒有可能我們培養 |
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3964.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
3966.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
我們原住民的外交人才 |
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3966.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
3968.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
其實我們常年都在做 |
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3968.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
3970.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
我們每一年都有國際人才培訓 |
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3970.04 |
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3972.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
尤其南島的部分也有一些 |
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3972.04 |
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3974.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
我們原住民的族人來參與 |
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3974.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
3976.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
甚至國外的 |
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3976.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
3978.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
南島族裔族的這些在國內 |
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3978.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
3980.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
在我們國家族群的都有請他們 |
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3980.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
3982.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
一起來參與國際人才的培訓 |
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3982.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
3984.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
外交部有沒有把它入籍為 |
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3984.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
3986.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
外交部的官員 |
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3986.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
3988.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
這個還要再繼續努力 |
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3988.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
3990.04 |
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這個我會督促他 |
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3990.04 |
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3992.04 |
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今天我們一定要培養這方面的人才 |
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3992.04 |
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3994.04 |
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協助我們 |
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3994.04 |
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3996.04 |
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拓產 |
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3996.04 |
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3998.04 |
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對南島為之國家的外交 |
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3998.04 |
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4000.04 |
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非常謝謝吳主委的回答 |
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4000.04 |
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4002.04 |
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謝謝 |
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4002.04 |
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4004.04 |
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謝謝委員的指導 |
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4008.04 |
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4010.04 |
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我們下一位請王美慧委員發言質詢 |
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4018.04 |
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4020.04 |
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主席 |
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4020.04 |
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4022.04 |
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主委 |
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4026.04 |
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4028.04 |
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委員好 |
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4028.04 |
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4030.04 |
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主委早上 |
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4030.04 |
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4032.04 |
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主委本來先向你探討一個 |
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4032.04 |
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4034.04 |
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我們七月初八 |
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4034.04 |
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4036.04 |
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我們的阿美族 |
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4036.04 |
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4038.04 |
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我們的活動的時候 |
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4038.04 |
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4040.04 |
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阿美族的祭福來臨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
4040.04 |
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4042.04 |
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都會配一支刀 |
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4042.04 |
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4044.04 |
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在這個過程當中 |
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4044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
4046.04 |
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我們的金正恩 |
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4046.04 |
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4048.04 |
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也有說要改進 |
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4048.04 |
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4050.04 |
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如果是最好的的時候 |
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4050.04 |
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4052.04 |
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主要來說 |
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4052.04 |
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4054.04 |
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阿美族整個族裡面 |
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4054.04 |
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4056.04 |
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他會帶刀 |
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4056.04 |
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4058.04 |
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在這個帶刀的當中 |
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4058.04 |
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4060.04 |
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跟建策五倍很深的 |
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4060.04 |
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4062.04 |
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覺得他是要去元家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
4062.04 |
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4064.04 |
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帶刀 |
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4064.04 |
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4066.04 |
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但是在阿美族來說 |
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4066.04 |
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4068.04 |
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他的祭福裡面 |
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4068.04 |
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4070.04 |
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就是有一支刀 |
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4070.04 |
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4072.04 |
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在這個過程當中 |
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4072.04 |
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4074.04 |
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阿美族 |
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4074.04 |
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4076.04 |
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關主委的人很生氣 |
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4076.04 |
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4078.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
他會覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
4078.04 |
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4080.04 |
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你們不夠尊重他們 |
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4080.04 |
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4082.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
在這個過程當中 |
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4082.04 |
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4084.04 |
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副主委你是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
4084.04 |
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4086.04 |
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可以來解釋 |
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4086.04 |
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4088.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
那天的發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
4088.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
4090.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
跟未來你要怎麼做 |
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4090.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
4092.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
來副主委你會怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
4092.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
4094.04 |
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我想那天發生這個事情 |
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4094.04 |
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4096.04 |
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是蠻遺憾的 |
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4096.04 |
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4098.04 |
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因為在一個原住民的 |
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4098.04 |
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4100.04 |
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這個豐年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
4100.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
4102.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
豐年期來講原則上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
4102.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
4104.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
整套服裝的配備那天看起來是非常完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
4104.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
4106.04 |
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那個禮刀配備事實上是一個 |
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4106.04 |
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4108.04 |
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標準的配備 |
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4108.04 |
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4110.04 |
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這不是只有阿美族各族群 |
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4110.04 |
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4112.04 |
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可能都有這樣的現象 |
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4112.04 |
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4114.04 |
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但是發生這樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
4114.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
4116.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
我想這個還是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
4116.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
4118.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
我們在政策上這個全民研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
4118.04 |
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4120.04 |
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還要加強就是讓各個族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
4120.04 |
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4122.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
甚至我們的行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
4122.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
4124.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
要了解原住民族他們本身的文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
4124.04 |
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4126.04 |
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俯視、扶藤 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
4126.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
4128.04 |
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各方面的運用都要尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
4128.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
4130.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
我想這個部分我們會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
4130.04 |
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4132.04 |
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跟相關的單位在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
4132.04 |
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4134.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
持續的再來宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
4134.04 |
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4136.04 |
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因為在這個過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
4136.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
4138.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
有的人不知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
4138.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
4140.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
阿美族會做的福利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
4140.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
4142.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
裡面有一支刀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
4142.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
4144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
到現在看到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
4144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
4146.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
到現在怎麼會換到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
4146.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
4148.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
還有有刀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
4148.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
4150.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
到現在也會怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
4150.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
4152.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
這樣走刀會非常危險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
4152.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
4154.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
所以兩方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
4154.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
4156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
五費如親 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
4156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
4158.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
不是像副主委說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
4158.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
4160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
我們需要什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
4160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
4162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
是我們應該在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
4162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
4164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
哪一種哪一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
4164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
4166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
有帶刀子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
4166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
4168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
或是帶什麼東西的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
4168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
4170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
要讓行政人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
4170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
4172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
像中委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
4172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
4174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
有實力相 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
4174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
4176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
也知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
4176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
4178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
他的刀子的配備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
4178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
4180.04 |
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是他本身就有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
4180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
4182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
不是帶進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
4182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
4184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
換掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
4184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
4186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
4186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
4188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
那個配刀其實對原住民來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
4188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
4190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
是生活上所必須用的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
4190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
4192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
那事實上在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
4192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
4194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
槍砲管制條例那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
4194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
4196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
我們原住民的這個配刀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
4196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
4198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
並不是管制的這個 |
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4198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
4200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
種類 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
4200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
4202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
不是管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
4202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
4204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
但是在警察來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
4204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
4206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
他會覺得這個刀子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
4206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
4208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
來過程就是不對 |
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4208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
4210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
還會費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
4210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
4212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
他不知道我們幾個族 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
4212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
4214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
都會配備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
4214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
4216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
這支刀的存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
4216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
4218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
所以副主委本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
4218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
4220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
自己探討就是說 |
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4220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
4222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
未來不是說人來人去檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
4222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
4224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
跟我們跟人家說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
4224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
4226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
跟我們這個新聞要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
4226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
4228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
找到的配備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
4228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
4230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
你們要先去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
4230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
4232.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
來我們說我們有幾種幾種幾種 |
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4232.04 |
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4234.04 |
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像有時候這個配刀 |
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4234.04 |
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是一個很慎重的一個 |
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4236.04 |
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4238.04 |
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一個理解啦 |
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4238.04 |
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4240.04 |
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就是他要過過配刀表示你這個人 |
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4240.04 |
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4242.04 |
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已經成長可以保護部落 |
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4242.04 |
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4244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
我想他在文化上有不同的一個含義 |
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4244.04 |
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4246.04 |
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所以這部分是需要大家多去理解 |
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4246.04 |
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4248.04 |
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要不然以後這樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
4248.04 |
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4250.04 |
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我覺得還會發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
4250.04 |
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4252.04 |
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對對對 |
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4254.04 |
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副主委就是這個最重點 |
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4254.04 |
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4256.04 |
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你如果沒講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
4256.04 |
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4258.04 |
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沒給了解的時候 |
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4258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
4260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
大家會覺得說 |
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4260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
4262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
他這個要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
4262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
4264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
要怎麼換機也做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
4264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
4266.04 |
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就是要讓人了解 |
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4266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
4268.04 |
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還有給人一個準中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
4268.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
4270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
因為這個過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
4270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
4272.04 |
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跟你知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
4272.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
4274.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
現在的經濟學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
4274.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
4276.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
怎麼說話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
4276.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
4278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
比較好學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
4278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
4280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
還是不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
4280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
4282.04 |
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不然會上課不然會做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
4282.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
4284.04 |
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一樣後來又回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
4284.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
4286.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
又一樣帶一支 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
4286.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
4288.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
電話在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
4288.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
4290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
經濟學者還是會來盤查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
4290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
4292.04 |
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我們主動跟他們聯絡看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
4292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
4294.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
這方面全民研究的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
4294.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
4296.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
是不是有需要會裡面有一些 |
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4296.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
4298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
專家學者來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
4298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
4300.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
做這方面的這個溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
4300.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
4302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
4302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
4304.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
我們不是被動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
4304.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
4306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
我們是要先去人家說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
4306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
4308.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
不是發生事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
4308.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
4310.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
跟我們在國際新聞都要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
4310.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
4312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
這樣也不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
4312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
4314.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
大家會互相尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
4314.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
4316.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
這是最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
4316.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
4318.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
來副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
4318.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
4320.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
我會把你講到一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
4320.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
4322.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
資訊傳播的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
4322.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
4324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
在1800年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
4324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
4326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
你有說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
4326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
4328.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
傳播裡面有20個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
4328.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
4330.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
20個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
4330.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
4332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
但是實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
4332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
4334.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
連一天還做得好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
4334.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
4336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
到無尊位置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
4336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
4338.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
到有30個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
4338.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
4340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
這是什麼原因你是不是可以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
4340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
4342.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
我們那個資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
4342.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
4344.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
傳播這個建置這個基地台建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
4344.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
4346.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
我們計畫是要37個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
4346.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
4348.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
已經完成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
4348.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
4350.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
32個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
4350.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
4352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
已經有執照了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
4352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
4354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
另外5個部分事實上是有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
4354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
4356.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
環境地形地貌的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
4356.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
4358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
還有一些土地管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
4358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
4360.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
所以沒有辦法如期的來完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
4360.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
4362.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
這個部分事實上我們也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
4362.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
4364.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
想其他的方式是不是跟在地的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
4364.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
4366.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
廣播業者合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
4366.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
4368.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
甚至是租用或是配合他們所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
4368.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
4370.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
既有的設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
4370.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
4372.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
來一併把覆蓋力再提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
4372.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
4374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
所以後續相關工程當然我們盡可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
4374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
4376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
克服來完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
4376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
4378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
如果不行我們就會朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
4378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
4380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
或者是重新再來去研議看用什麼方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
4380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
4382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
來處理後面沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
4382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
4384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
達成的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
4384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
4386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
對於我們人民的所在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
4386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
4388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
他們的傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
4388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
4390.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
是對他們來說非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
4390.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
4392.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
所以因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
4392.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
4394.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
土地沉船下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
4394.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
4396.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
還有一些跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
4396.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
4398.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
監管的所在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
4398.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
4400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
他們也是靠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
4400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
4402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
傳播的聽訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
4402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
4404.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
所以在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
4404.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
4406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
過程當中本身會覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
4406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
4408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
4408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
4410.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
我們還 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
4410.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
4412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
目標37個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
4412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
4414.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
37個會動中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
4414.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
4416.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
會動明天還會動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
4416.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
4418.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
做到好到不成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
4418.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
4420.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
4420.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
4422.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
32個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
4422.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
4424.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
剩下的要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
4424.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
4426.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
所以我們現在針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
4426.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
4428.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
那個5個還沒有辦法完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
4428.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
4430.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
的我們另外有開一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
4430.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
4432.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
工程的匯報甚至 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
4432.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
4434.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
是不是有一些在軟體上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
4434.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
4436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
要再重新招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
4436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
4438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
那我們都在做一些處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
4438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
4440.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
也希望藉助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
4440.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
4442.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
既有的設施比如說有一些地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
4442.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
4444.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
在地已經有那些發射台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
4444.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
4446.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
或是說有他們的一些我們可以跟他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
4446.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
4448.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
合作不要自己再去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
4448.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
4450.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
見這件事情看能不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
4450.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
4452.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
先用這種比較能夠達成目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
4452.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
4454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
的方式來促成這個涵蓋率能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
4454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
4456.04 |
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達到百分之百因為資訊的傳達 |
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非常重要你如果有天災 |
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你要通知就是有百分之二十 |
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的人收不到這個訊息 |
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我想這個事我們要趕快 |
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解決的問題 |
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所以說吳主委本身跟你說 |
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有時候我親手來我講的說 |
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有的都沒辦法接到 |
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發生什麼事情 |
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他也沒辦法接到 |
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更何況你們全個 |
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的愛心你們要去突破 |
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好謝謝 |
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因為我覺得這對於 |
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關主民來說非常重要 |
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因為他們都住在 |
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那麼山的嘛海海 |
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所以說這對他們來說 |
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非常重要 |
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所以在這個過程我們的 |
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關主民不管代理組 |
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不管他現在在做什麼 |
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最重要我們的傳播 |
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一定要到位 |
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不是在說你看 |
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一般空氣力到現在 |
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吳主委要加油 |
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謝謝吳主委 |
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多謝多謝 |
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好 |
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謝謝主席請 |
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副主委 |
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好副主委好 |
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先恭喜一下 |
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今天早上這個希臘亞族的 |
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合訂的典禮 |
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對要跟族人說一聲 |
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恭喜這個正名之路非常的 |
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漫長將近三十年 |
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十幾年的官司甚至走到了 |
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憲法法庭終於等到了 |
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這一天法庭 |
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終於等到了這一天 |
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非常的不容易 |
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是的那我等一下 |
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如果來得及我也希望可以到 |
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現場給大家祝福 |
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那我必須要說這個憲法法庭其實 |
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二零二年判決之後 |
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那立法到了前十天 |
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終於立好了 |
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那希臘亞族這個公告 |
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三月八號期滿 |
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那原民會本來是承諾說 |
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兩個月可以抱怨但是 |
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還是拖到了今天 |
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說到但是 |
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還是終於走到了今天 |
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那我第一個要問的就是 |
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那什麼時候這些族人 |
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可以去到護政事務所來登記 |
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取得他們的身份 |
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我們原則上目前我們的 |
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計畫規劃是 |
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在八月十三號以後就可以 |
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八月十三號以後 |
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但是我們後來再次的協調發現到 |
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可能還有些地方 |
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還要再加強 |
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所以我們可能會在八月中旬 |
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4612.04 |
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八月十三號之後他們走進 |
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護政事務所就可以順利的進行 |
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我們對外公布都是八月中旬 |
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我是在這邊跟委員講 |
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對所以我會希望 |
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就是要給族人一個明確的時間 |
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讓他們真的走進 |
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護政事務所的時候是可以 |
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順利的辦理的這是第一個 |
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再來第二個除了希臘 |
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亞族之外其他像我們高雄 |
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還有大武龍族 |
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那就在我們的甲仙山林 |
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我不知道說其他的八族目前的 |
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進度走到什麼階段 |
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跟委員報告 |
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現在的相關 |
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申請像道卡斯 |
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他是民主認定的 |
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申請他目前是 |
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已經在我們要開那個 |
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審議委員會了那像 |
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大武龍好像目前 |
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4658.04 |
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是已經也提出申請了 |
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是我們目前 |
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都還要再進入後續的一些 |
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4664.04 |
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一些調查還有他們要提出 |
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他們相關的一些草案就是 |
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4668.04 |
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身份認定的這個草案要來跟我們審議 |
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4670.04 |
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這個部分我們都還在進 |
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4672.04 |
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另外有一些族群已經申請了這些 |
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4674.04 |
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其實已經申請的有一個 |
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4676.04 |
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我們都會做對我們都會 |
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4676.04 |
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4678.04 |
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剛剛講的就是像我們高雄的 |
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4678.04 |
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4680.04 |
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大武龍族不知道說你們現在審議 |
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4680.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
4682.04 |
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的進度到哪裡其實都已經 |
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4682.04 |
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4684.04 |
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申請了 |
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4684.04 |
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4686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
認定申請他申請了那我們 |
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4686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
4688.04 |
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的委員的要件公告目前他們在 |
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4688.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
4690.04 |
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進行中大武龍的部分 |
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4690.04 |
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4692.04 |
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對阿所以我是想問 |
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4694.04 |
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大概的進度 |
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4696.04 |
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如果按照希拉亞將軍他 |
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如果他的那個要件公告這個 |
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部分能夠很快完成的話我想 |
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應該在半年內 |
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半年內可以 |
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但是那個還是要送到院裡面去報 |
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是所以我在這邊希望的是 |
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幫族員問一下我們的進度 |
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是不是可以順利那可不可以 |
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你說的半年內 |
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就來完成 |
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這個也要他們要配合喔 |
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不是說我們因為這個族群的認定 |
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跟申請是他們自己這個族群 |
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4724.04 |
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族群的團體他們要做一些相關的準備 |
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所以我在這邊也是派一堆副主委 |
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可以盡量的協助族人 |
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可以盡快的拿到這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
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審議的結果 |
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好再來第三件事情要問的是 |
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因為接下來最直接的 |
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就是他們的政治參與 |
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還有衛生醫療的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
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相關等等的權利 |
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那所以我在這邊想問的是 |
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相關的權利的盤點 |
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還有法律你們有沒有進行了 |
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包括說 |
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選舉權還是說他們 |
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4754.04 |
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接下來的升學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
4754.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
4756.04 |
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工作權的保障健保的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
4758.04 |
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長照的補助等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
4758.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
4760.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
相關的權利你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
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盤點過了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
4762.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
4764.04 |
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跟委員報告這個在 |
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4766.04 |
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今年的5月19號我們有召開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
4766.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
4768.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
跨部會的這個會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
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就是針對這個平埔族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
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他們的未來在三年內要制定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
4774.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
相關法律的權益的部分來做盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
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那我們已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
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盤點出來有118種法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
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4780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
命令需要做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
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4782.04 |
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那也發文請他們在9月30號以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
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把他們所盤整出來 |
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4786.04 |
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需要調整的文字內容 |
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報到我們會裡面 |
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我們再來看是法規命令 |
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是行政規則是法律面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
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4794.04 |
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應該怎麼處理那時候會再進一步的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
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4796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
做一個處理 |
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所以是9月30號 |
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9月30號請他們回報 |
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把他們所盤點所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
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4804.04 |
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需要修正的是哪一些 |
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4806.04 |
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他的內容會是什麼我們再來做整理說 |
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4808.04 |
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是法律的違節是法規命令的 |
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4810.04 |
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是行政規則的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
4812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
應該怎麼處理我們那時候後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
4812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
4814.04 |
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就會進一步的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
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4816.04 |
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好這個就是希望你們接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
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4818.04 |
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像我剛剛說的這一些相關的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
4820.04 |
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都必須要進行完整的盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
4820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
4822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
那給他們應有的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
4822.04 |
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4824.04 |
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好那最後一個我是想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
4824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
4826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
提醒這個戶政端 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
4828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
的配套因為其實 |
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4830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
1月的時候我有提一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
4832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
這個泰雅族人的例子就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
4832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
4834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
他想要幫他的新生兒登記族名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
4834.04 |
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4836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
結果戶政人員說他的族名不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
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4838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
他的人民譜上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
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4840.04 |
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那就有點稍微刁難了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
4842.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
那變成說他去登記沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
4842.04 |
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4844.04 |
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很順利那我想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
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講的就是這一些人民譜本來 |
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就是參考的工具不是他 |
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4850.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
審核的依據 |
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4852.04 |
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那所以我想問的是接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
4854.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
這些平埔族的族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
4856.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
他們去到戶政事務所 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
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4858.04 |
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那可能也會遇到相關的問題 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
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更何況他們沒有這些相 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
4860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
4862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
他們相關的依據是更少的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
4862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
4864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
那戶政端這邊是不是你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
4864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
4866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
應該要去溝通一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
4866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
4868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
我們在這個身份登記的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
4868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
4870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
是要召開過兩次的會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
4870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
4872.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
也是找戶政單位來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
4872.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
4874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
那相關的登記的作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
4874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
4876.04 |
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的要點啊或者是 |
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4878.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
有一些我們認為說可能 |
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4878.04 |
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4880.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
有問題的部分都有做充分 |
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4880.04 |
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4882.04 |
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溝通所以才會跟委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
4884.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
我們為什麼會在8月13號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
4884.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
4886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
才開始登記是因為 |
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4886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
4888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
我們要把這些疑慮先一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
4888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
4890.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
解決要不然到時候來申請問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
4890.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
4892.04 |
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怎麼這個又少了這個 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
4894.04 |
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對沒錯對因為我在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
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4896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
提醒一下 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
4898.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
因為平埔原住民族群的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
4900.04 |
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身份法20條裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
4900.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
4902.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
是寫到說傳統的名字跟登記的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
4902.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
4904.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
民族別是相關聯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
4904.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
4906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
可是這個相關聯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
4906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
4908.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
有一點籠統所以我要在這邊 |
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4908.04 |
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4910.04 |
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提醒的就是如果你們已經有確認 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
4912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
不要只是一個默契而是 |
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4912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
4914.04 |
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要讓戶政官 |
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沒錯必須要有一個非常 |
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詳盡的規範不會說族人去到 |
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戶政事務所結果現場 |
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又跟他說這個我們沒有 |
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在我們相關的什麼 |
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審查的基準之上 |
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或者是說沒有相關的參考 |
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所以沒有辦法登記 |
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希望絕對不可以遇到 |
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這樣的情況好嗎 |
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我們會努力就到零缺點 |
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好這個要拜託 |
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好最後一點時間我要講一下這個 |
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監察院的糾正案就是大學 |
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實驗原住民族土地的 |
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權利案那去年 |
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去年八月有一個糾正案嘛 |
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就是台大實驗林台大的山地農場 |
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中興的惠孫林場 |
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還有平科大的達仁林場 |
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那除了教育部之外 |
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原民會其實也被糾正了 |
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對吧 是 |
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對所以那你們知道你們被糾正 |
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的內容是什麼 |
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共管的部分 沒錯 |
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所以這個共管的部分你們現在 |
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有沒有進行相關的 |
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改善 |
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共管的部分事實上我們在去年 |
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就已經開始在研議要 |
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會商各部會來研修這個共管 |
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4980.04 |
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辦法 要跟我們報告共管 |
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辦法是各部會大家要會先 |
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發布啦所以當然原民會 |
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一定會提出來我們需要的版本 |
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但是在這個過程各部會 |
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他們還是有他們的 |
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所以我們會努力 |
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4994.04 |
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副主委講到一個重點你們會 |
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4996.04 |
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提出你們要的版本那我在這邊 |
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具體的建議就是 |
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我們到時候的共管辦法 |
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這個得可以 |
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改成因 這個也是一開始我們提的就是因啦 |
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是的 可是後來 |
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協調到最後就是還是改成 |
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我們一開始的版本就是這樣 |
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那我們這一次事實上 |
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5014.04 |
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在修我們還是希望能夠把這個 |
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5014.04 |
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5016.04 |
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得改成因因為 |
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5018.04 |
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我們發現到有很多的 |
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5020.04 |
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資源治理機關像領務局他們 |
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5020.04 |
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5022.04 |
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相關的機關他們事實上都有 |
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5022.04 |
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成立共管的這樣的一個 |
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委員會或是動體會所以我們希望說 |
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如果現行 |
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5030.04 |
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大家都已經可以溯及既往去 |
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5030.04 |
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5032.04 |
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成立的話我想這個改成因應該是必然 |
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5032.04 |
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5034.04 |
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好所以我希望你們要有你們的立場 |
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5034.04 |
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5036.04 |
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然後堅持應該要幫 |
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5036.04 |
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5038.04 |
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原住民族爭取他們的權益 |
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5038.04 |
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5040.04 |
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好不好 謝謝 |
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5040.04 |
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5042.04 |
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所以這個共管辦法那最後再提醒一個就是 |
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5042.04 |
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5044.04 |
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這個共同召集人因為其實 |
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5044.04 |
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5046.04 |
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剛剛你說的這個林保署 |
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5046.04 |
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5048.04 |
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還有國家公園署其實裡面都有提到 |
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5050.04 |
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必須要有一個原住民族的 |
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5052.04 |
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代表擔任共同召集人 |
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5052.04 |
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5054.04 |
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但是我們沒有 |
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5054.04 |
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5056.04 |
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我們希望全力要分享義務要共同承擔 |
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5056.04 |
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5058.04 |
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沒錯所以希望 |
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5058.04 |
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5060.04 |
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到時候共同召集人的部分你們也可以納進去 |
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5060.04 |
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5062.04 |
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是謝謝好謝謝 |
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5062.04 |
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5064.04 |
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謝謝委員的指導 |
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5070.04 |
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5072.04 |
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我們現在為請張宏路委員發言質詢 |
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5074.04 |
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請 |
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5088.04 |
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我請主委 |
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5092.04 |
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5094.04 |
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委員好 |
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5094.04 |
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5096.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
副主委 |
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5096.04 |
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5098.04 |
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這個我們 |
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5098.04 |
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5100.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
這個 |
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5100.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
5102.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
島嶼族航海計畫 |
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5102.04 |
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5104.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
這個其實都已經做了 |
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也做得不錯 |
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5106.04 |
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5108.04 |
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那你們現在做完了之後 |
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5108.04 |
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5110.04 |
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後續你們還有什麼推動 |
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5112.04 |
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5116.04 |
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後續事實上我們是希望能夠持續的進行這個文化繼續的交流 |
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5118.04 |
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那我們也有相關 |
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5118.04 |
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5120.04 |
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未來的規劃是不是那個 |
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5122.04 |
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簡單 |
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5124.04 |
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我簡單問明年會繼續辦嗎 |
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5126.04 |
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5128.04 |
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航海應該 |
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5128.04 |
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5130.04 |
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沒有辦法每年這樣持續辦 |
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5130.04 |
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5132.04 |
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因為它事實上未來 |
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5132.04 |
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5134.04 |
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未來還是有可能 |
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5134.04 |
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5136.04 |
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因為我們這次有一個非常 |
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5136.04 |
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5138.04 |
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經過這樣的過程我們吸收了非常多的經驗 |
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5138.04 |
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5140.04 |
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好 |
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5140.04 |
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5142.04 |
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我 |
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5142.04 |
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5144.04 |
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我覺得整個 |
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5144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
5146.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
這個南島與系 |
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5146.04 |
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5148.04 |
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其實範圍蠻大的 |
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5148.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
5150.04 |
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那我們這一次 |
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5150.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
5152.04 |
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有到菲律賓了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
5152.04 |
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5154.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
到這邊 |
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5154.04 |
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5156.04 |
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因為你這次也是有文化部 |
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5156.04 |
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5158.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
文化部什麼大家一起合辦 |
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5158.04 |
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5160.04 |
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外交部什麼的 |
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5160.04 |
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5162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
5162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
5164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
這個我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
5164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
5166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
自己在這邊辦得很高興 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
5166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
5168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
那在菲律賓的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
5168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
5170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
你們後續要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
5170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
5172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
有這個計畫嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
5172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
5174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
菲律賓的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
5174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
5176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
5176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
5178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
請董事長說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
5178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
5180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
5180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
5182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
就是我們這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
5182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
5184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
的Ufayan就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
5184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
5186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
黃金友一號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
5186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
5188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
我們劃到巴丹島之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
5188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
5190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
那這個都不用講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
5190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
5192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
這個都知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
5192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
5194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
然後進行後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
5194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
5196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
在巴丹島進行這個傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
5196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
5198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
跟社區跟研究單位的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
5198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
5200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
行銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
5200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
5202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
跟研究單位跟什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
5202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
5204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
這是一件事我說的是宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
5204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
5206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
5206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
5208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
雪濃與水啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
5208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
5210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
你既然大家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
5210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
5212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
這個南島與系都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
5212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
5214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
要跟他當朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
5214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
5216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
你為什麼不趁著這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
5216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
5218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
把這些南島與系的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
5218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
5220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
讓他知道台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
5220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
5222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
藍與答物什麼跟他們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
5222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
5224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
同源同種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
5224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
5226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
他們才可以連接起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
5226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
5228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
他才會對台灣友好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
5228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
5230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
才會遇到事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
5230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
5232.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
這個就是我們的族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
5232.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
5234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
這個是後續的宣傳才是重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
5234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
5236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
所以你們後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
5236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
5238.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
邊這些預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
5238.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
5240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
在這些南島與系的國家去宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
5240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
5242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
那你可以跟外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
5242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
5244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
跟什麼大家配合啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
5244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
5246.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
不然你花了這麼多錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
5246.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
5248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
就這樣子放了煙火就沒了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
5248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
5250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
5250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
5252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
因為我們在明年也有編了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
5252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
5254.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
相關南島文化交流中長程計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
5254.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
5256.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
那這個計畫裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
5256.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
5258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
有一些資源會整合運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
5258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
5260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
那不管是航海人才的培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
5260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
5262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
跟航海記憶傳傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
5262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
5264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
跟合作交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
5264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
5266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
我的重點跟你們回答的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
5266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
5268.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
完全不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
5268.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
5270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
那我就明確的跟你們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
5270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
5272.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
我希望你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
5272.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
5276.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
要編這個國際的宣傳的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
5276.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
5278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
然後讓他們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
5278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
5280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
所有南島與系的人知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
5280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
5282.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
台灣就是跟他們一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
5282.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
5284.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
台灣的答物組 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
5284.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
5286.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
這些跟他們一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
5286.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
5288.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
可以跟外交部配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
5288.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
5290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
可以跟什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
5290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
5292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
然後在那邊辦活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
5292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
5294.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
然後用宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
5294.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
5296.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
我覺得這個才是重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
5296.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
5298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
我們來檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
5298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
5300.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
來改進看看怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
5300.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
5302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
可以喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
5302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
5304.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
那我希望我在明年的預算看到這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
5304.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
5306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
不然我預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
5306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
5308.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
我說得很支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
5308.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
5310.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
我們再來檢討這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
5310.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
5312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
我覺得這個要嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
5312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
5314.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
我跟你講很多國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
5314.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
5316.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
都這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
5316.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
5318.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
那我們既然花了這麼多錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
5318.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
5320.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
我希望你們要這樣子做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
5320.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
5322.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
才不會浪費了這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
5322.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
5324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
你想想看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
5324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
5326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
你跟他如果他認同你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
5326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
5328.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
有任何事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
5328.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
5330.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
他會聽你說話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
5330.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
5332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
5332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
5334.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
不是只有一個宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
5334.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
5336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
不是只有對台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
5336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
5338.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
我覺得太可惜了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
5338.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
5340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
可以啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
5340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
5342.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
你們會這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
5342.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
5344.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
那我也希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
5344.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
5346.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
如果你們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
5346.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
5348.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
也給我一個資料給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
5348.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
5350.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
大家一起看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
5350.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
5352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
也不要給我而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
5352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
5354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
大家集思廣益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
5354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
5356.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
看怎麼做會比較好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
5356.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
5358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
這個我覺得很難得的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
5358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
5360.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
5360.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
5362.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
可以給董事長補充一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
5362.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
5364.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
跟副委員再做一個補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
5364.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
5366.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
就是在九月份 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
5366.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
5368.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
那全世界的原住民電視台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
5368.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
5370.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
原住民的媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
5370.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
5372.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
會在挪威 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
5372.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
5374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
有一個世界大會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
5374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
5376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
那這個航海的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
5376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
5378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
跟國際的文化的交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
5378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
5380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
也會在那個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
5380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
5382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
來跟所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
5382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
5384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
全世界的原住民做宣傳 |
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這個我都支持 |
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但重點 |
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在南島語系的國家 |
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我們這個要宣傳 |
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要做讓他們要互相認同 |
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這個才是重點 |
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我覺得這個才是這樣 |
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那再來 |
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我覺得 |
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我們原住民主廣播電台 |
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這個信號 |
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我看你們那個資料 |
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預算是編不夠嗎 |
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因為你們的建置 |
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我覺得還沒有 |
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達到我們的目標 |
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目前只有82% |
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預算是不夠嗎 |
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並沒有不夠 |
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就是技術性的問題 |
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對不對 |
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那我真的覺得太慢了 |
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5432.04 |
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技術性的問題 |
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應該很好解決 |
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只要是技術性的問題 |
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都不是不能解決的 |
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我希望能夠快一點 |
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你們不要 |
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你們可以跟各部會 |
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互相協力 |
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大家互相幫忙 |
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5450.04 |
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互相協力互相協作 |
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5450.04 |
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5452.04 |
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我覺得這樣的 |
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5454.04 |
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真的太慢了 |
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5456.04 |
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每年給你這麼多的預算 |
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5458.04 |
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結果你信號出不出去 |
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5460.04 |
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那給你們預算幹嘛 |
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5460.04 |
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5462.04 |
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對不對 |
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5464.04 |
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現在研議會也會協助 |
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5464.04 |
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5466.04 |
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我們會來處理這個 |
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5466.04 |
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5468.04 |
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有關於工程技術要跨部會協調的部分 |
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5468.04 |
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5470.04 |
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這個本來就要做 |
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5470.04 |
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5472.04 |
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我的意思是本來就要做 |
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5474.04 |
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不是現在才要做 |
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好不好 |
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5478.04 |
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我覺得這個真的太慢了 |
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5478.04 |
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5480.04 |
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你自己想想看 |
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5480.04 |
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5482.04 |
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我如果是原住民的朋友 |
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5482.04 |
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5484.04 |
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你們講的那麼多 |
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5484.04 |
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5486.04 |
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我連收聽都收聽不到 |
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5486.04 |
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5488.04 |
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我覺得這個不對 |
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5488.04 |
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5490.04 |
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你們多久可以改善 |
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我們在 |
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5494.04 |
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一年之內 |
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5496.04 |
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我們所有的 |
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5498.04 |
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站塔應該進度會 |
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5498.04 |
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5500.04 |
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再超前 |
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5500.04 |
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5502.04 |
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各位再做報告就是這些站塔 |
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5502.04 |
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5504.04 |
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其實大部分是在原鄉的 |
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5506.04 |
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山坡地 |
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5508.04 |
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這個山坡地的相關法規 |
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5510.04 |
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以及原住民保留地的相關 |
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5510.04 |
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5512.04 |
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這個我都知道 |
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5512.04 |
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5514.04 |
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這個我都知道 |
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5514.04 |
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5516.04 |
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但你們就是遇到問題停在那邊 |
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5516.04 |
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5518.04 |
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我跟你講有很多方式可以解決 |
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5518.04 |
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5520.04 |
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我跟你講 |
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5520.04 |
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5522.04 |
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我舉個例子好了 |
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5522.04 |
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5524.04 |
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我舉個例子好了 |
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5524.04 |
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5526.04 |
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人家定性公司 |
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5528.04 |
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他為了要賺錢 |
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5528.04 |
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5530.04 |
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他會想盡辦法趕快解決 |
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5530.04 |
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5532.04 |
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但你們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
5532.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
5534.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
我運動問題我卡住了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
5534.04 |
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5536.04 |
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我就怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
5536.04 |
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5538.04 |
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我覺得那是不對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
5538.04 |
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5540.04 |
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你們不夠積極 |
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5542.04 |
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你請各部會一起協調處理 |
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5542.04 |
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5544.04 |
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我覺得就會快很多 |
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5544.04 |
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5546.04 |
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我舉這個例子很清楚吧 |
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其實最主要是 |
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5550.04 |
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鄉公所都出面幫忙我們 |
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5552.04 |
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有一些地方的土地的取得 |
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5552.04 |
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5554.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
跟山坡地鄉公所跟我們的合作 |
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5554.04 |
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5556.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
蠻密切 |
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5556.04 |
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5558.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
我們在這一塊可能會再繼續努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
5558.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
5560.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
我跟你講做事情 |
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5560.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
5562.04 |
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要找對方法 |
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5562.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
5564.04 |
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不是每天公文在那邊 |
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5564.04 |
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5566.04 |
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你看人家 |
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5568.04 |
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如果你們不知道你去看人家 |
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5568.04 |
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5570.04 |
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定性公司如何解決 |
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5570.04 |
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5572.04 |
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這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
5572.04 |
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5574.04 |
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我覺得你如果你們不是工程專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
5574.04 |
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5576.04 |
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我了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
5576.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
5578.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
但有很多例子你們去找來參考就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
5578.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
5580.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
人家就可以馬上解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
5580.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
5582.04 |
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那我覺得這樣拖得太久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
5582.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
5584.04 |
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好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
5584.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
5586.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
我覺得剝奪了原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
5586.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
5588.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
我們在比較偏鄉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
5588.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
5590.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
原住民的同胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
5590.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
5592.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
他們的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
5592.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
5594.04 |
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好不好這點拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
5594.04 |
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5596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
最後再給我30秒 |
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5596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
5598.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
5598.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
5600.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
5600.04 |
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5602.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
如果去打獵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
5602.04 |
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5604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
他是不是配槍跟配刀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
5604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
5606.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
5606.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
5608.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
那他如果去參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
5608.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
5610.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
豐年祭什麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
5610.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
5612.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
他可不可以照他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
5612.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
5614.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
各族的傳統配槍配刀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
5614.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
5616.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
豐年祭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
5616.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
5618.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
我們在很多豐年祭事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
5618.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
5620.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
在很多的祭儀的過程都會用到獵槍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
5620.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
5622.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
甚至 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
5622.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
5624.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
配刀是一個本身的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
5624.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
5626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
服飾上的標準配配 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
5626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
5628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
5628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
5630.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
那他如果可以的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
5630.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
5632.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
5632.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
5634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
我要講的你知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
5634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
5636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
5636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
5638.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
應該要跟警政署 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
5638.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
5640.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
跟什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
5640.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
5642.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
要去聯絡好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
5642.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
5644.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
這種事情不能再發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
5644.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
5646.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
不管他有沒有做出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
5646.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
5648.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
抗議的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
5648.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
5650.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
這是對原住民傳統的尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
5650.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
5652.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
那個事件的本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
5652.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
5654.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
5654.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
5656.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
到底怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
5656.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
5658.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
但原住民的傳統的本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
5658.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
5660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
這個要尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
5660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
5662.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
這個是你們原民會最主要的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
5662.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
5664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
事情發生了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
5664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
5666.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
你們有跟警政署聯繫了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
5670.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
5672.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
跟委員報告目前還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
5672.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
5674.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
沒有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
5674.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
5676.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
這個不對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
5676.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
5678.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
我也知道你們沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
5678.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
5680.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
但如果是這種事情一發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
5680.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
5682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
馬上就要跟他們講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
5682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
5684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
你們的主委就要跟內政部長講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
5684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
5686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
這是我們原住民族的傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
5686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
5688.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
我覺得不管什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
5688.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
5690.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
都有其他面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
5690.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
5692.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
但傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
5692.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
5694.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
就是傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
5694.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
5696.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
不然我們每天在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
5696.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
5698.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
講這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
5698.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
5700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
立這麼多的法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
5700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
5702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
要幹什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
5702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
5704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
這一點我拜託你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
5704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
5706.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
如果趕快去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
5706.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
5708.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
未來有類似這種事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
5708.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
5710.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
你要第一時間要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
5710.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
5712.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
你們主委就是要跟內政部長講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
5712.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
5714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
這是我們的傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
5714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
5716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
對不對 不應該這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
5716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
5718.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
你覺得勒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
5718.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
5720.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
我們會跟主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
5720.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
5722.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
傳達這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
5722.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
5724.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
跟內政部看後續怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
5724.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
5726.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
這個要趕快處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
5726.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
5728.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
未來如果有類似這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
5728.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
5730.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
不尊重原住民傳統的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
5730.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
5732.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
我覺得你們第一時間要出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
5732.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
5734.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
很多原住民族的同胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
5734.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
5736.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
都在看我們原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
5736.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
5738.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
到底在做了什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
5738.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
5740.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
你這樣子是會含了所有原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
5740.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
5742.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
同胞的心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
5742.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
5744.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
5744.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
5746.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
謝謝委員指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
5772.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
5774.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
這是我關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
5774.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
5778.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
藍語跟巴丹島的連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
5778.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
5780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
除了單次的活動之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
5780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
5782.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
我們更希望看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
5782.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
5784.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
後續無論是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
5784.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
5786.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
民族情感持續的交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
5786.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
5788.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
甚至是擴大到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
5788.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
5790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
國家整體的利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
5790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
5792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
也能夠藉由這樣的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
5792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
5794.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
去做到外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
5794.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
5796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
或者是相關可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
5796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
5798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
漁權上面的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
5798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
5800.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
互助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
5800.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
5802.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
我可能先就這兩方面來說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
5802.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
5804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
第一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
5804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
5806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
民族的文化交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
5806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
5808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
循根 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
5808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
5810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
除了這一次之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
5810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
5812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
後續有沒有一些定期的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
5812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
5814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
讓這一次的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
5814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
5816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
不是只是後續拍拍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
5816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
5818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
紀念影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
5818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
5820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
然後做個紀念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
5820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
5822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
就沒有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
5822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
5824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
我想這也不是說族人的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
5824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
5826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
或是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
5826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
5828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
現在有沒有在爭取相關的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
5828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
5830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
未來能夠做更深層的連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
5830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
5832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
或者說現在是我們過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
5832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
5834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
未來有沒有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
5834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
5836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
邀訪的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
5836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
5838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
好凶本來就是互相 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
5838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
5840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
不能做到我們去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
5840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
5842.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
他們也來讓我們才能看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
5842.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
5844.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
這樣的成果是雙方都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
5844.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
5846.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
期待看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
5846.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
5848.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
情感連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
5848.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
5850.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
我想未來原民會是會運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
5850.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
5852.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
南島文化交流中長程的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
5852.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
5854.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
來爭取預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
5854.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
5856.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
來做跨部會資源的運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
5856.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
5858.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
持續的辦了傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
5858.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
5860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
實際一點的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
5860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
5862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
可能會有哪一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
5862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
5864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
實際的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
5864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
5866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
我想藍語的族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
5866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
5868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
應該平常 |
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5868.04 |
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經常都有這樣的一個互動 |
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他們事實上之前 |
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民間或是本來的部分 |
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未來就是現在我們是 |
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官方在協助推動 |
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國家資源進來了 |
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當然不希望國家資源就進來 |
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如果說你進來一次他們之後 |
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常常的這個 |
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交流非常密切的話 |
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我覺得可能有點不切實際 |
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如果是國家的 |
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5894.04 |
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中長程計畫 |
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5894.04 |
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5896.04 |
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應該就會有一個具體的想要做的事項 |
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5896.04 |
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5898.04 |
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在裡面你才能夠編經費 |
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現在有沒有一些初步的構想 |
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能夠分享 |
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5902.04 |
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5904.04 |
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謝謝委員 |
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5904.04 |
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5906.04 |
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我們目前都全力配合 |
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5906.04 |
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5910.04 |
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原民會在原住民文化上面的推動 |
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近期在明年 |
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明年藍語鄉公所 |
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5916.04 |
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也會組織一個訪問團 |
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5918.04 |
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繼續延續這個航海 |
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5918.04 |
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5920.04 |
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第二個就是我們 |
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5920.04 |
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5922.04 |
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划到巴丹島之後 |
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5922.04 |
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5924.04 |
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抱歉 剛剛您講 |
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5924.04 |
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5926.04 |
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藍語明年會再組織一個航海 |
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5928.04 |
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鄉公所 |
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5928.04 |
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5930.04 |
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再過去一次 |
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另外就是 |
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5934.04 |
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另外就是我們會 |
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5934.04 |
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5936.04 |
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因為現在船在巴丹島 |
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5936.04 |
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5938.04 |
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明年巴丹島的省長 |
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5938.04 |
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5940.04 |
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他也希望用那艘船 |
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5940.04 |
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5942.04 |
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再回來藍語 |
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5942.04 |
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5944.04 |
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最主要是我本身自己是藍語人 |
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5944.04 |
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5946.04 |
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我們過去都會划船過去 |
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5946.04 |
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5948.04 |
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通魂然後交易這個 |
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5948.04 |
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5950.04 |
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農作物所以如果能夠 |
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5950.04 |
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5952.04 |
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直航的話我們在文化上 |
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5952.04 |
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5954.04 |
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教育觀光的合作可能就會 |
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5954.04 |
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5956.04 |
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更密切 |
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5956.04 |
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5958.04 |
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所以未來這樣子巴丹島跟藍語之間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
5958.04 |
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5960.04 |
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航行 |
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5960.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
5962.04 |
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可能會變成 |
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5962.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
5964.04 |
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例行性的常態的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
5964.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
5966.04 |
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當然不是每天可能就每個年度 |
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5966.04 |
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5968.04 |
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互相來訪這樣子那未來他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
5968.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
5970.04 |
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來的意願 |
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5970.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
5972.04 |
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如果說大家都認為是一件好的事情 |
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5972.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
5974.04 |
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當然有文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
5974.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
5976.04 |
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或者是影視上面的支持 |
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5976.04 |
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5978.04 |
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讓大家更認識加強裡面的連結都很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
5978.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
5980.04 |
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繼續做下去我想這也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
5980.04 |
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5982.04 |
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大家所期待的 |
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5982.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
5984.04 |
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另外一個就是可能對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
5984.04 |
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5986.04 |
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一部分是民族的情感 |
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5986.04 |
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5988.04 |
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的連結循根 |
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5988.04 |
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5990.04 |
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另外一部分也是國家化許多的預算 |
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5990.04 |
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5992.04 |
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剛剛講了尤其是我們可能最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
5992.04 |
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5994.04 |
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以中華民國來講 |
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5994.04 |
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5996.04 |
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跟菲律賓如果說要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
5996.04 |
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5998.04 |
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可能就是在漁業方面的衝突 |
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5998.04 |
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6000.04 |
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可能是比較大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
6000.04 |
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6002.04 |
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我也覺得說是不是能夠 |
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6002.04 |
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6004.04 |
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或許這可能不是原民會的 |
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6004.04 |
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6006.04 |
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業務這當然不是你們的業務這是漁業組的 |
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6006.04 |
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6008.04 |
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但是既然 |
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6008.04 |
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6010.04 |
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這個算是一種 |
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6010.04 |
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6012.04 |
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外交行為我們認為以國家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
6012.04 |
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6014.04 |
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角度來看它是一種外交行為我們也希望說這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
6014.04 |
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6016.04 |
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外交行為的有效的提升 |
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6016.04 |
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6018.04 |
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對於未來雙方的 |
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6018.04 |
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6020.04 |
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漁業的談判也能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
6020.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
6022.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
一圈可能是你是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
6022.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
6024.04 |
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中華民國你是菲律賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
6024.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
6026.04 |
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兩個不同的國家現在是 |
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6026.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
6028.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
自己人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
6028.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
6030.04 |
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大家是一家人那有些東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
6030.04 |
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6032.04 |
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是不是沒有必要計較的那麼清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
6032.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
6034.04 |
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我覺得是不是 |
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6034.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
6036.04 |
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在未來漁業權的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
6036.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
6038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
方面你有沒有想過 |
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6038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
6040.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
有沒有辦法在這方面來協助國家 |
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6040.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
6042.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
報告委員這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
6042.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
6044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
漁業上面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
6044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
6046.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
這個產業當然不在我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
6046.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
6048.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
原文會的權限不過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
6048.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
6050.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
我們在去年邀請巴丹省的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
6050.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
6052.04 |
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省長的訪問團他們來台灣的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
6052.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
6054.04 |
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有跟漁業署進行一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
6054.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
6056.04 |
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會談洽商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
6056.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
6058.04 |
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因為過去其實這個漁業比較緊張 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
6058.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
6060.04 |
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雙方也談到一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
6060.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
6062.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
合作 |
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6062.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
6064.04 |
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互相投資或者是 |
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6064.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
6066.04 |
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漁業的輔導 |
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6066.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
6068.04 |
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共享漁業資源目前是他們 |
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6068.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
6070.04 |
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過去是去年是有談到 |
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6070.04 |
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6072.04 |
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這個部分的面向 |
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6072.04 |
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6074.04 |
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這是一個很好的方向我們不只是做民族情感的連結 |
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6074.04 |
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6076.04 |
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溯源 |
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6078.04 |
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而是對於現在兩個國家 |
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6078.04 |
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6080.04 |
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可能潛在的一些衝突 |
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6080.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
6082.04 |
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非原住民族的權益 |
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6082.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
6084.04 |
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也可以藉由這樣子的活動來 |
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6084.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
6086.04 |
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提升 |
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6086.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
6088.04 |
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也會獲得更多的關注 |
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6088.04 |
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6090.04 |
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那我也建議未來 |
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我們是一個很好的窗口 |
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未來如果說可能跟菲律賓 |
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或者是當地有一些 |
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6098.04 |
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可以溝通的地方我覺得我們原住民族 |
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如果說我們認為有一些好的管道 |
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我們可以幫國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
6102.04 |
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6104.04 |
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做訊息的傳遞我覺得這是未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
6104.04 |
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6106.04 |
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我們可以繼續來努力的好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
6106.04 |
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6108.04 |
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以上很麻煩謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
6108.04 |
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6110.04 |
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謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
6110.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
6112.04 |
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好謝謝亮星鄉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
6122.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
6124.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
好下一位請高清樹梅委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
6128.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
6130.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
請副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
6134.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
6136.04 |
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好大家對於南島與竹行海計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
6136.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
6138.04 |
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就是八丹島這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
6138.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
6140.04 |
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大家都有各自不同的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
6140.04 |
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6142.04 |
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都很好我想請問一下這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
6142.04 |
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是原民會深層的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
6144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
6146.04 |
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還是原文會的發向 |
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6148.04 |
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6150.04 |
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最早在111年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
6150.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
6152.04 |
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是原文會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
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6154.04 |
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有跟文化部申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
6154.04 |
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6156.04 |
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這個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
6156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
6158.04 |
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大概是1100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
6158.04 |
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6160.04 |
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所以是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
6160.04 |
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6162.04 |
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原文會的發情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
6162.04 |
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6164.04 |
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後來在114年才又在跟會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
6164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
6166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
114年跟文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
6166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
6168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
111年跟文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
6168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
6170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
他們一開始啟動這個航海的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
6170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
6172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
所以這個111年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
6172.04 |
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6174.04 |
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沒有成行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
6174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
6176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
沒有他當時著重在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
6176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
6178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
這個灶州 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
6178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
6180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
灶這個拼板州 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
6180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
6182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
還有一些相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
6182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
6184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
所以這個計畫應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
6184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
6186.04 |
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111年一直到現在是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
6186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
6188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
115年完成這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
6188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
6190.04 |
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那也就很 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
6190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
6192.04 |
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很長的一個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
6192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
6194.04 |
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那請問一下這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
6194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
6196.04 |
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你們會內開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
6196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
6198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
多少次會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
6202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
6204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
最少十次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
6204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
6206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
那也就是有完整的開會的記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
6206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
6208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
請問一下完整的開會記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
6208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
6210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
可不可以提供給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
6210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
6212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
為什麼今天會有這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
6212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
6214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
一個專案報告是因為我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
6214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
6216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
6216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
6218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
我們的行動我覺得太 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
6218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
6220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
過於草率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
6220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
6222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
6222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
6224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
你看你們八單島的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
6224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
6226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
執行計畫3850塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
6226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
6228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
50萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
6228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
6230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
然後專案管理行政費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
6230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
6232.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
750萬編列那麼高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
6232.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
6234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
管理會為什麼這次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
6234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
6236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
計畫仍然出現重大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
6236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
6238.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
缺失 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
6238.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
6240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
然後你們報告也沒有講這個缺失 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
6240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
6242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
是什麼你們還只是說這是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
6242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
6244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
非常成功的但事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
6244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
6246.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
你們航程的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
6246.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
6248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
執行費是1150萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
6248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
6250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
然後舟體內部結構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
6250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
6252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
遭海浪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
6252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
6254.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
嚴重的破壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
6254.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
6256.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
船板的座位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
6256.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
6258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
也被沖走了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
6258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
6260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
然後船體持續的在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
6260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
6262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
進水所以就沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
6262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
6264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
辦法的划行了請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
6264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
6266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
一下你們挑戰的是黑潮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
6266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
6268.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
黑潮不是那麼容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
6268.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
6270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
的你去Google一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
6270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
6272.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
黑潮AI怎麼告訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
6272.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
6274.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
6274.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
6276.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
潮流是非常險峻的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
6276.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
6278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
哪是你們這樣子可以潮潮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
6278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
6280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
耍帥當然會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
6280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
6282.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
碰到無法繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
6282.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
6284.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
划行然後花了1000多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
6284.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
6286.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
的規劃你們全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
6286.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
6288.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
確定最安全還有應變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
6288.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
6290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
都沒有做好請問這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
6290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
6292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
成功嗎在今天那所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
6292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
6294.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
的檢討報告裡面你們也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
6294.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
6296.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
寫啊未來你們如果還要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
6296.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
6298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
在做的話你們還會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
6298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
6300.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
面對同樣的問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
6300.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
6302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
然後你們原文會給我報告是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
6302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
6304.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
說你們航程未完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
6304.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
6306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
是因為後航的船 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
6306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
6308.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
叫做青美號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
6308.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
6310.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
他的發電機故障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
6310.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
6312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
請問一下到底是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
6312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
6314.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
發電機故障還是我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
6314.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
6316.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
船體進水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
6316.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
6318.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
各位報告這個航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
6318.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
6320.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
當然是我們做了非常充分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
6320.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
6322.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
的這個安全評估跟規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
6322.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
6324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
當然不知道挑戰黑潮是一件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
6324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
6326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
非常嚴重的事情嗎達瑞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
6326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
6328.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
主任的前輩主先 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
6328.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
6330.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
應該都清楚知道啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
6330.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
6332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
可能跟我們計畫上當然有一點落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
6332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
6334.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
那請問一下這樣子的一個變化 |
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6334.04 |
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6336.04 |
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有沒有在你們的規劃跟 |
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6336.04 |
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6338.04 |
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討論範圍之內 |
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6338.04 |
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6340.04 |
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你們我再講一次你們挑戰的是 |
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6340.04 |
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6342.04 |
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黑潮這個不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
6342.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
6344.04 |
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普通的一個洋流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
6344.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
6346.04 |
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我們在籌辦的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
6346.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
6348.04 |
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當然這應變的機制是有充分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
6348.04 |
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6350.04 |
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的討論啊請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
6350.04 |
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6352.04 |
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到底是你們航航的船 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
6352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
6354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
發電機故障還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
6354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
6356.04 |
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船體進水還是你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
6356.04 |
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6358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
發現黑潮不是那麼好容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
6358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
6360.04 |
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挑戰的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
6360.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
6362.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
因為他們發出去以後發現到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
6362.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
6364.04 |
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那個湧浪比你想的還要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
6364.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
6366.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
發現倒是就滑出去才 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
6366.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
6368.04 |
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發現嗎難道你們在規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
6368.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
6370.04 |
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的時候就不會想到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
6370.04 |
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6372.04 |
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是覺得是可以的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
6372.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
6374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
我今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
6374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
6376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
不想看到我們 |
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6376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
6378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
在這邊是針鋒相對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
6378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
6380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
我們要的是花了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
6380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
6382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
三千八百五十萬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
6382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
6384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
錢有沒有完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
6384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
6386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
規劃而今天要你們做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
6386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
6388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
專案報告就是希望你們能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
6388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
6390.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
記取教訓下次不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
6390.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
6392.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
再有這樣的事情發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
6392.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
6394.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
當然做文化的交流傳承 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
6394.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
6396.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
文化平衡中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
6396.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
6398.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
來自達悟族人不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
6398.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
6400.04 |
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就一艘啦好多艘啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
6400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
6402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
對不對而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
6402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
6404.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
你們跟發單的交流也不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
6404.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
6406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
三百年來走次啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
6406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
6408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
有幾次了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
6408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
6410.04 |
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所以你們竟然要做這麼大的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
6410.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
6412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
政治上的宣示 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
6412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
6414.04 |
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你們總是要有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
6414.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
6416.04 |
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規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
6416.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
6418.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
你們有一些政治上的宣示 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
6418.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
6420.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
或政治上的意圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
6420.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
6422.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
就是剛剛幾個委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
6422.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
6424.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
你們要有你們的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
6424.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
6426.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
未來在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
6426.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
6428.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
今天你們的報告完全沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
6428.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
6430.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
然後我覺得這個真相 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
6430.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
6432.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
也沒有看到就是你剛剛跟我講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
6432.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
6434.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
滑出去我們就發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
6434.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
6436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
哇這個洋流非常的大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
6436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
6438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
所以船體進水了 |
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6438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
6440.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
所以造成說他們安全第一 |
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6440.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
6441.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
所以先把人先 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
6441.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
6443.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
我當然了解安全第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
6443.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
6445.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
但是你們在滑出去之前都不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
6445.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
6447.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
那海潮的洋流是這麼嚴重的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
6447.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
6449.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
是有評估是有評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
6449.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
6451.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
那評估了為什麼你們的護航船 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
6451.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
6453.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
還會發電機沒電 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
6453.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
6455.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
6455.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
6457.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
副主委今天不要在這邊了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
6457.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
6459.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
我現在要凸顯的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
6459.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
6461.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
你們根本沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
6461.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
6463.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
好好的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
6463.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
6465.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
你們只是想要完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
6465.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
6467.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
這件事情你知道這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
6467.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
6469.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
如你剛剛所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
6469.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
6471.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
達悟的族人是他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
6471.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
6473.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
安危而且裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
6473.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
6475.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
裡面的滑船的人不全是達悟族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
6475.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
6477.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
他還有漢族的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
6477.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
6479.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
還有其他的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
6479.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
6481.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
如果你們真的是所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
6481.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
6483.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
都要我們男女達悟族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
6483.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
6485.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
應該規劃好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
6485.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
6487.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
訓練好所有都是達悟族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
6487.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
6489.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
一起參與這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
6489.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
6491.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
不是更有意義嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
6491.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
6493.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
好嗎謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
6495.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
6497.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
我再講第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
6497.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
6499.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
那請你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
6499.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
6501.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
請你們再把你們的具體的檢討報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
6501.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
6503.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
剛剛有非常多的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
6503.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
6505.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
洪祿委員也好廖先祥委員也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
6505.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
6507.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
都想到你們未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
6507.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
6509.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
還要做些什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
6509.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
6511.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
我希望人民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
6511.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
6513.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
你們做事情的時候不要雷聲大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
6513.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
6515.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
然後雨點小 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
6515.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
6517.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
然後後續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
6517.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
6519.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
也沒有想好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
6519.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
6521.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
每次想做什麼就做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
6521.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
6523.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
我覺得人民會的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
6523.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
6525.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
本來就很少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
6525.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
6527.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
我覺得人民會在操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
6527.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
6529.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
自己族人的事情的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
6529.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
6531.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
要專業一點好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
6531.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
6533.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
另外我要跟您談的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
6533.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
6535.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
原住民族廣播電台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
6535.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
6537.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
基地台的設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
6537.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
6539.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
剛剛洪祿委員也說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
6539.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
6541.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
宣傳族人的事物 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
6541.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
6543.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
你們應該要非常的上手 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
6543.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
6545.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
可是我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
6545.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
6547.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
你們辦活動的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
6547.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
6549.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
是非常的積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
6549.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
6551.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
可是你們最基本的業務管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
6551.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
6553.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
讓人非常的失望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
6553.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
6555.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
107年絕標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
6555.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
6557.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
遠廣台基地台設置案 |
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6557.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
6559.04 |
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預計要10個月之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
6559.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
6561.04 |
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就完工了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
6561.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
6563.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
但是到現在歷經10年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
6563.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
6565.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
你們完成了三戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
6565.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
6567.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
整體的進度只有15% |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
6567.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
6569.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
請問這10年 |
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6569.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
6571.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
到底發生了什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
6573.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
6575.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
這10年發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
6577.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
6579.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
我想這個在履約的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
6579.04 |
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6581.04 |
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這個廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
6581.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
6583.04 |
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他已經沒有要繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
6583.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
6585.04 |
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履約了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
6585.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
6587.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
所以我們也看到 |
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6587.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
6589.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
在這個過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
6589.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
6591.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
有很多的正義產生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
6591.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
6593.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
那我們也提報了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
6593.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
6595.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
採購法的101 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
6595.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
6597.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
針對這個廠商的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
6597.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
6599.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
來做一些處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
6599.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
6601.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
後續我們事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
6601.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
6603.04 |
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也可能會再重新採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
6603.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
6605.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
另外就是針對那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
6605.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
6607.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
在這個過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
6607.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
6609.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
我們一些相關的損失 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
6609.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
6611.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
會要求這個廠商來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
6611.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
6613.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
副主委你今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
6613.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
6615.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
請問一下誰風管原文會的事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
6615.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
6617.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
哪一位副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
6619.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
6621.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
這個是原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
6621.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
6623.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
是不是要監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
6623.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
6625.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
還是原民會自己的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
6627.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
6629.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
這個工作事實上在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
6629.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
6631.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
你們有副主委三位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
6631.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
6633.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
你們有三位副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
6633.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
6635.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
你們有三位副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
6635.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
6637.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
誰在負責這一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
6637.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
6639.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
原則上是陳副 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
6639.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
6641.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
陳副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
6643.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
6645.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
那請問他知道這件事情嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
6645.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
6647.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
那請問陳副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
6647.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
6649.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
之前是誰在風管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
6649.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
6651.04 |
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我剛剛說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
6651.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
6653.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
107年絕標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
6653.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
6655.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
你剛剛說是因為廠商的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
6655.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
6657.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
但是這十年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
6657.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
6659.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
卻沒有人對這個廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
6659.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
6661.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
或者是這件事情關心過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
6661.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
6663.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
又不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
6663.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
6665.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
我在今年的預算裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
6665.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
6667.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
凍結你們的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
6667.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
6669.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
然後請要求你們要說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
6669.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
6671.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
是不是還在拖十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
6673.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
6675.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
請問一下副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
6675.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
6677.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
不會啦那之前是那個中興華 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
6677.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
6679.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
他業管這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
6679.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
6681.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
好他已經退休了對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
6681.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
6683.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
那請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
6683.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
6685.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
你們可不可以明確承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
6685.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
6687.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
目前還有17站沒有完成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
6687.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
6689.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
你們是要什麼時候會完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
6691.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
6693.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
我請那個業務單位來跟委員說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
6693.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
6695.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
6695.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
6697.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
我跟你們報告一下整個原住民主廣播台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
6697.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
6699.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
站台的潮濕進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
6699.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
6701.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
整個中華南基隆要完成的是37站 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
6701.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
6703.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
那目前已經建構完成的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
6703.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
6705.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
32站 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
6705.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
6707.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
那集中五站也會在每一站 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
6707.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
6709.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
佔用它的地形跟用地的取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
6709.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
6711.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
是非常大的問題目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
6711.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
6713.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
可能還要再重新規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
6713.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
6715.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
那還有4站在明年中旬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
6715.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
6717.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
一定要完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
6717.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
6719.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
那你們還沒有完成的你們要怎麼解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
6719.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
6721.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
剛剛洪路委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
6721.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
6723.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
已經交給了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
6723.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
6725.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
我們可以從上聯繫請其他的部會來幫你嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
6725.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
6727.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
其實我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
6727.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
6729.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
在想跟其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
6729.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
6731.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
民間廣播電台還是國家廣播電台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
6731.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
6733.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
他們會在當地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
6733.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
6735.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
我們可以透過跟他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
6735.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
6737.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
掛掛的方式來解決這樣的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
6737.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
6739.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
很好請問一下今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
6739.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
6741.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
質詢完了之後誰要負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
6741.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
6743.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
6743.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
6745.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
這個事情我會親自來讀到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
6745.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
6747.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
因為這個過去一年多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
6747.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
6749.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
我也持續在要求這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
6749.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
6751.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
所以你的意思是說今年會完成全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
6751.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
6753.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
明年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
6753.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
6755.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
明年會完成全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
6755.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
6757.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
除了梅山站以外因為梅山站的確 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
6757.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
6759.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
有很大很大的問題因為用地取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
6759.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
6761.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
包括它的整個地形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
6761.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
6763.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
在整個建構上是非常困難的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
6763.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
6765.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
那我們現在在判 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
6765.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
6767.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
判到梅山可能就沒辦法做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
6767.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
6769.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
因為時間的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
6769.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
6771.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
我們必須要再延宕十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
6771.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
6773.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
這是族人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
6773.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
6775.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
收拾權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
6775.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
6777.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
另外不好意思稍微再給我一點點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
6777.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
6779.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
我要問的是今天我們有原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
6779.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
6781.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
基本法的宣法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
6781.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
6783.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
那麼這個法從九十四年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
6783.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
6785.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
我上任以後我們推動到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
6785.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
6787.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
沒有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
6787.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
6789.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
依照現在族人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
6789.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
6791.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
需求我們來通同檢討 |
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6791.04 |
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今天終於有了 |
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6793.04 |
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6795.04 |
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那麼我也提出了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
6795.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
6797.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
十五條的修正條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
6797.04 |
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6799.04 |
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約戰全法的四成 |
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6799.04 |
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6801.04 |
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這涵蓋了民族會議 |
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6801.04 |
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6803.04 |
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自治制度中和發展 |
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6803.04 |
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6805.04 |
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基金跟傳統領域還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
6805.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
6807.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
都會原住民的權益等等重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
6807.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
6809.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
還有一題請問一下副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
6809.04 |
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6811.04 |
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原民會你們支持嗎 |
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6811.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
6813.04 |
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你們支持修法嗎 |
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6813.04 |
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6815.04 |
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支持但是有些條文 |
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6815.04 |
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6817.04 |
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我們都有在檢視 |
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6817.04 |
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6819.04 |
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到時候我們再逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
6819.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
6821.04 |
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好我今天要先跟你講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
6821.04 |
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6823.04 |
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我一直在講的中和發展基金 |
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6823.04 |
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6825.04 |
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我要請教你三個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
6825.04 |
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6827.04 |
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很快很快第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
6827.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
6829.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
有人認為中和發展基金目前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
6829.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
6831.04 |
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累積短錯了 |
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6831.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
6833.04 |
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六十八點七億是 |
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6833.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
6835.04 |
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因為原民會你今年不善造成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
6835.04 |
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6837.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
你同意這樣子的說法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
6837.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
6839.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
我想主要還是 |
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6839.04 |
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6841.04 |
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進法補償的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
6841.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
6843.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
所以是你們經營不善造成的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
6843.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
6847.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
累積短錯那麼多錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
6847.04 |
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6849.04 |
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應該不是啦 |
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6849.04 |
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6851.04 |
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主要還是進法補償的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
6851.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
6853.04 |
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好第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
6853.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
6855.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
有人認為這個基金的業務不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
6855.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
6857.04 |
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所以呢不需要每年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
6857.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
6859.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
撥補二十三億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
6859.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
6861.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
你同意嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
6861.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
6863.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
我覺得依法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
6863.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
6865.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
依法應該要到多少的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
6865.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
6867.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
很好尤其 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
6867.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
6869.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
一百一四五年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
6869.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
6871.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
我做過主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
6871.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
6873.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
希望我們的行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
6873.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
6875.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
每年能夠二十三億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
6875.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
6877.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
撥補進來對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
6877.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
6879.04 |
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好第三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
6879.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
6881.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
也有人認為未來兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
6881.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
6883.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
原本要還給族人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
6883.04 |
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6885.04 |
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六十三億他只要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
6885.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
6887.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
還十億就可以了原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
6887.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
6889.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
你同意這件事情嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
6889.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
6891.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
我們是持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
6891.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
6893.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
持續跟主總這邊來協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
6893.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
6895.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
說因為當時也有立法院的決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
6895.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
6897.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
我們希望能夠儘快的能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
6897.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
6899.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
很好我剛剛以上講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
6899.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
6901.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
這三個我的問題呢全部都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
6901.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
6903.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
行政院的見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
6903.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
6905.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
行政院的秘書長就在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
6905.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
6907.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
回答我這樣的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
6907.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
6909.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
當然主計總處說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
6909.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
6911.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
每年明年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
6911.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
6913.04 |
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還給族人十億就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
6913.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
6915.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
當然你也說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
6915.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
6917.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
這不符合立法院的主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
6917.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
6919.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
這個主決議也是我做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
6919.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
6921.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
所以我可以在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
6921.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
6923.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
毫不客氣的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
6923.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
6925.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
行政院你們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
6925.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
6927.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
要霸凌族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
6927.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
6929.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
你們就是在霸凌原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
6929.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
6931.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
原民會給你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
6931.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
6933.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
那麼多的公文 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
6933.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
6935.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
再次的請求你們請你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
6935.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
6937.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
撥補完整中發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
6937.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
6939.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
基金的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
6939.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
6941.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
要不然中發基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
6941.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
6943.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
真的不能夠做事了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
6943.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
6945.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
但是他只給 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
6945.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
6947.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
十億我希望今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
6947.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
6949.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
這是我在這裡最後一次的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
6949.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
6951.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
行政院長沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
6951.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
6953.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
聽到我今天在這裡質詢的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
6953.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
6955.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
還有族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
6955.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
6957.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
我們應該憤怒 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
6957.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
6959.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
立法院的主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
6959.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
6961.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
而且呢這個基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
6961.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
6963.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
剛剛副主委講過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
6963.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
6965.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
是我們族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
6965.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
6967.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
立法通過的進發補償 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
6967.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
6969.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
本來是三萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
6969.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
6971.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
現在多了三萬變六萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
6971.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
6973.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
6973.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
6975.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
行政院不想要旅行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
6975.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
6977.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
所以就在中和發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
6977.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
6979.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
裡面給我們研發嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
6979.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
6981.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
然後修理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
6981.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
6983.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
我們的原民會嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
6983.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
6985.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
讓原民會在其他的業務上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
6985.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
6987.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
不能夠做事嗎是這樣子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
6987.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
6989.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
如果是這樣子的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
6989.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
6991.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
行政院長你太可惡了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
6991.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
6993.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
我希望今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
6993.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
6995.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
這也是我最後在這邊講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
6995.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
6997.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
中發基金的最後一次質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
6997.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
6999.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
原民會要硬起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
6999.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
7001.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
您剛剛說過了主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
7001.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
7003.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
已經做了中和 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
7003.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
7005.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
發展基金本來就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
7005.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
7007.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
應該要撥補 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
7007.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
7009.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
7009.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
7011.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
如果我們今天行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
7011.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
7013.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
不撥補完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
7013.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
7015.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
那做多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
7015.04 |
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7017.04 |
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的主決議也沒有用 |
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7017.04 |
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7019.04 |
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就算我在原基法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
7019.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
7021.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
裡面要修這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
7021.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
7023.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
我相信他也會不附屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
7023.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
7025.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
所以原民會我們一起加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
7025.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
7027.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
7027.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
7029.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
我們一起加油好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
7029.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
7031.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
相信院裡面也會考量原民會的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
7031.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
7033.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
院長你要不要這個大聲的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
7033.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
7035.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
跟行政院長喊話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
7035.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
7037.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
卓院長希望你聽到我們的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
7037.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
7039.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
中和發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
7039.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
7041.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
麻煩撥補完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
7041.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
7043.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
他會按照我們的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
7043.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
7045.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
來配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
7045.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
7047.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
我剛剛已經問你三個問題了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
7047.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
7049.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
你都說第一不是原民會的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
7049.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
7051.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
不是你們金銀不散 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
7051.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
7053.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
然後也不是因為你們基金業務不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
7053.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
7055.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
所以不需要這個錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
7055.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
7057.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
7057.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
7059.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
主決議也做了你剛剛也回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
7059.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
7061.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
我的問題了請勇敢的跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
7061.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
7063.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
卓院長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
7063.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
7065.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
請你不要再霸凌族人了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
7065.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
7067.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
好嗎謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
7073.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
7075.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
下一位請林一金委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
7075.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
7077.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
發言資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
7079.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
7081.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
慢慢來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
7089.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
7091.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
7091.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
7093.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
有請副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
7093.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
7095.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
原民會副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
7097.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
7099.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
7099.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
7101.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
副主委好今天很高興 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
7101.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
7103.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
看到本席長期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
7103.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
7105.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
關心的希拉亞族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
7105.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
7107.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
證明終於要在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
7107.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
7109.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
今天實現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
7109.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
7111.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
7111.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
7113.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
會過去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
7113.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
7115.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
可是我們現在正在吵架 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
7115.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
7117.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
不曉得等一下民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
7117.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
7119.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
會不會有什麼特別的典禮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
7119.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
7121.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
我也會希望去見證 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
7121.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
7123.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
今天我就儘速 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
7123.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
7125.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
來問幾個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
7125.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
7127.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
就是有關於整體比姆族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
7127.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
7129.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
族群未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
7129.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
7131.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
一些後續權益的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
7131.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
7133.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
首先 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
7133.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
7135.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
希拉亞族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
7135.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
7137.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
他接下來要面臨登記身份的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
7137.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
7139.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
7139.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
7141.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
不過我們可以看到像台南市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
7141.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
7143.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
他已經早就進行了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
7143.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
7145.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
守住計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
7145.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
7147.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
到今年六月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
7147.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
7149.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
有守住計的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
7149.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
7151.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
有1萬1828人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
7151.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
7153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
本席的疑問是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
7153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
7155.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
這些人再來還要再跑一趟嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
7155.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
7157.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
還有就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
7157.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
7159.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
之前本席有參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
7159.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
7161.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
新化的希拉亞族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
7161.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
7163.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
7163.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
7165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
那時候台南市原民會主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
7165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
7167.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
白慧蘭主委有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
7167.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
7169.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
希拉亞族已經是台南市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
7169.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
7171.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
的原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
7171.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
7173.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
住計的資料是同步建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
7173.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
7175.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
在護正系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
7175.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
7177.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
總統頒布後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
7177.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
7179.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
法律原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
7179.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
7181.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
法律保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
7181.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
7183.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
配合中央政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
7183.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
7185.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
已經登記的會直接轉正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
7185.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
7187.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
本席的理解是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
7187.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
7189.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
這會省去在民族合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
7189.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
7191.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
還要再跑一趟護正事務所 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
7191.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
7193.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
再去登記這些程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
7193.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
7195.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
對族人當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
7195.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
7197.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
比較便利 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
7197.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
7199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
所以中央的原民會是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
7199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
7201.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
7201.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
7203.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
想想一些辦法來簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
7203.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
7205.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
申請跟登記的流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
7205.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
7207.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
並對外說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
7207.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
7209.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
7209.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
7211.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
我剛剛也有報告說我們事實上開過兩次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
7211.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
7213.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
的這種會議就是跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
7213.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
7215.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
要護正單位要登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
7215.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
7217.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
的這個程序那簡化流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
7217.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
7219.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
當然也是我們在討論的議題裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
7219.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
7221.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
這裡面有一些就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
7221.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
7223.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
在當時在台南有登記的他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
7223.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
7225.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
並不全然都是希拉亞族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
7225.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
7227.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
所以可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
7227.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
7229.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
也可能不是像委員講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
7229.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
7231.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
都一起都可以做什麼樣的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
7231.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
7233.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
當然我們會從簡便的方式去進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
7233.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
7235.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
看能不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
7235.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
7237.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
簡靜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
7237.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
7239.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
那個族人在這個過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
7239.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
7241.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
你的意思是說他們還要再 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
7241.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
7243.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
做一次沒有我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
7243.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
7245.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
看看是什麼樣的狀況好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
7245.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
7247.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
事實上簡便 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
7247.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
7249.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
的這件事情我們事實上有在考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
7249.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
7251.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
這樣應該怎麼樣讓他們更 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
7251.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
7253.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
不用那麼那麼複雜來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
7253.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
7255.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
這個登記的動作好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
7255.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
7257.04 |
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就是本席建議就是還盡量以 |
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民為主啦 |
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那也請人民會思考一下 |
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怎麼跟台南市或屏東市 |
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他們這些有先進行這個 |
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護正資料的登記 |
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有熟註記的這些縣市也溝通一下好不好 |
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因為這次大概就是花蓮 |
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台東屏東台南 |
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好像再上去一點 |
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這個區塊大概都會有這個 |
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身分證據的問題 |
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好那就跟地方政府要做一些溝通 |
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有一致性的做法 |
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那好下一個議題就是有關於教育 |
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就是除了台南市政府已經完成 |
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這個新版的原住民族學生 |
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獎助學金申請 |
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作業須知的整並 |
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那明確並入這個 |
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平埔原住民族學生外 |
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那其他地方政府都辦都還在 |
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救治嘛那沒有將這個 |
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平埔原住民族的權益納入 |
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這個獎補助的制度 |
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那全國現在各縣市 |
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這個存在的標準不一 |
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那獎助辦法也不同 |
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那恐怕會造成跨縣市的 |
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學生這個權益有落差 |
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那也嚴重違反所謂的 |
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憲判意旨跟立法目的 |
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比如說 |
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台北市的 |
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7325.04 |
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高雄市的北邊的行政區 |
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像這個 |
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茄町啊湖內 |
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很多的學生其實都到台南市來讀書 |
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可是他們可能因為 |
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沒有涉及台南市 |
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那高雄又沒有針對平埔原住民族 |
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設這個獎助學金 |
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那就會產生落差 |
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那我來舉這個例子 |
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所以本席認為說我們原民會 |
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作為主管機關我們不能 |
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7349.04 |
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坐視這個地方制度來有點失衡 |
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我們應該要主導 |
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有全國一致性的這個指引 |
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或者是法治協調 |
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來為付這個平埔原住民 |
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7359.04 |
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他這個學生獎助學金的這個權益 |
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7359.04 |
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7361.04 |
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那雖然這是地方事務 |
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可是本席也是要建議原民會 |
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7365.04 |
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我們應該要督導 |
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7367.04 |
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跟來盡力協調各地方政府 |
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這個原民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
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原民的相關局處 |
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我覺得還是建議可以比照 |
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台南市政府的模式喔 |
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那由原民會來進行所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
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必要的這個行政指導 |
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那完成這個制度的檢討跟修正 |
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對於這個議題副主委你怎麼看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
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7385.04 |
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我想我們會彙整相關的這個訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
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7387.04 |
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不管台南已經發了或其他縣 |
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是什麼情況這裡面一個很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
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他是涉及到地方制度法 |
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7391.04 |
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7393.04 |
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他們願意以現在的法條來講 |
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7395.04 |
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按照平埔住民身分法 |
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的23條我們是要再來 |
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7399.04 |
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做相關權益的這個規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
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7401.04 |
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那這個地方他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
7401.04 |
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7403.04 |
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已經先行做這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
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7405.04 |
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我們當然是支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
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7407.04 |
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但是其他縣市是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
7407.04 |
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7409.04 |
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應該比照辦理我們再來協調 |
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7409.04 |
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因為這個關係到 |
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7411.04 |
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7413.04 |
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裁員的問題因為人數不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
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7415.04 |
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多少你以下說你們都要辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
7415.04 |
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7417.04 |
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等一下說進來說3萬人他說我不可能有這個錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
7417.04 |
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7419.04 |
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現在不知道會有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
7419.04 |
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7421.04 |
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所以這個我們會整理以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
7421.04 |
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7423.04 |
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然後再跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
7423.04 |
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7425.04 |
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來協調說如果他們要做這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
7425.04 |
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7427.04 |
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我們可以比照台南市先行來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
7427.04 |
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7429.04 |
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如果說可以知道人數的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
7429.04 |
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7431.04 |
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可以先做這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
7431.04 |
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7433.04 |
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我們來研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
7433.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
7435.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
謝謝副主委謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
7435.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
7437.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
7443.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
7445.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
我們下一位我想先跟委員會報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
7445.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
7447.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
待李柏懿委員詢答完後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
7447.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
7449.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
處理臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
7449.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
7451.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
那我們下一位請吳奇明委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
7455.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
7457.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
吳奇明委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
7461.04 |
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7463.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
好主席我們一位同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
7463.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
7465.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
請我們的副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
7467.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
7469.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
7469.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
7471.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
副主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
7471.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
7473.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
當初我們山陰縣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
7473.04 |
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7475.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
山陰檢疫縣當初我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
7475.04 |
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7477.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
共同努力爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
7477.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
7479.04 |
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就是原住民的圖騰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
7479.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
7481.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
打造一個原住民的圖騰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
7481.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
7483.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
就是在我們的台北大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
7483.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
7485.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
那現在都已經設立了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
7485.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
7487.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
那整個車廂 |
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7487.04 |
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7489.04 |
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外面的圖騰 |
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7489.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
7491.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
的彩繪類車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
7491.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
7493.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
也都一一實現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
7493.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
7495.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
那我們在我們新北 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
7495.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
7497.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
新北目前搭乘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
7497.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
7499.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
那個T-Pass |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
7499.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
7501.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
T-Pass |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
7501.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
7503.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
那個人數現在北北基 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
7503.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
7505.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
所調的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
7505.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
7507.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
有50多萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
7507.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
7509.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
那未來我們新北 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
7509.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
7511.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
是有很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
7511.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
7513.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
新路線那未來是不是可以朝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
7513.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
7515.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
山陰縣這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
7515.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
7517.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
路線的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
7517.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
7519.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
圖騰還有那個彩繪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
7519.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
7521.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
是不是可以比照 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
7521.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
7523.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
我們來努力來研議看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
7523.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
7525.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
朝這個方向來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
7525.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
7527.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
因為這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
7527.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
7529.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
先導我們原住民是最快的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
7529.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
7531.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
因為你看啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
7531.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
7533.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
透過這個大眾檢疫系統是最方便的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
7533.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
7535.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
對你看一個月就50多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
7535.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
7537.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
那50多萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
7537.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
7539.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
在搭乘那真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
7539.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
7541.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
滿驚人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
7541.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
7543.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
那未來你要推廣原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
7543.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
7545.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
的文化也好原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
7545.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
7547.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
的種種 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
7547.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
7549.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
的先導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
7549.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
7551.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
都是非常快的速度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
7551.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
7553.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
那未來應該是朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
7553.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
7555.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
7555.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
7557.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
那本來比較關心的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
7557.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
7559.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
我們以前我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
7559.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
7561.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
都常常在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
7561.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
7563.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
在推動的就是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
7563.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
7565.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
聚會所 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
7565.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
7567.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
那在新北我們原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
7567.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
7569.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
的人數也算是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
7569.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
7571.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
滿多有6萬多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
7571.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
7573.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
那在我的選區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
7573.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
7575.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
我的選區密集度也算是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
7575.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
7577.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
非常高那我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
7577.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
7579.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
是在山峽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
7579.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
7581.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
的北大那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
7581.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
7583.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
有設立一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
7583.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
7585.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
就是我們的原立廣場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
7585.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
7587.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
7589.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
7591.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
那原立廣場你未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
7591.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
7593.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
在土城 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
7593.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
7595.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
這一邊還是樹林 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
7595.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
7597.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
這一邊是不是我們未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
7597.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
7599.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
還是要每一個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
7599.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
7601.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
都有一個原立廣場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
7601.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
7603.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
讓我們原住民不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
7603.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
7605.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
每次的集會每次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
7605.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
7607.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
活動都要透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
7607.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
7609.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
我們的理辦公室這一邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
7609.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
7611.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
去跟人家借租 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
7611.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
7613.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
那你要是我們原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
7613.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
7615.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
自己有個廣場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
7615.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
7617.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
自己可以來那邊辦活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
7617.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
7619.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
我認為這是應該比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
7619.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
7621.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
適當 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
7621.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
7623.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
原則上要廣場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
7623.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
7625.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
廣場的設立當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
7625.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
7627.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
族人應該會有這方面的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
7627.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
7629.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
這是毋庸置疑但是可能要考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
7629.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
7631.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
那個位置有沒有適當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
7631.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
7633.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
位置另外就是說族人有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
7633.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
7635.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
在那個區域我想這都是未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
7635.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
7637.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
要去做一個爬梳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
7637.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
7639.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
的一些數據來考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
7639.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
7641.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
說要設在什麼地方而且他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
7641.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
7643.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
事實上這個設了以後族人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
7643.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
7645.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
可急性可利用性是非常高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
7645.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
7647.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
那這個設了才會有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
7647.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
7649.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
那朝這個方向去進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
7649.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
7651.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
我們會努力啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
7651.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
7653.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
我們設立的是透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
7653.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
7655.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
我們當地的居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
7655.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
7657.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
都可以共同來使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
7657.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
7659.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
但是我們原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
7659.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
7661.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
是優先的使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
7661.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
7663.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
管理上也是我們原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
7663.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
7665.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
來做管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
7665.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
7667.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
那你整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
7667.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
7669.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
我們的地方上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
7669.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
7671.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
大家都可以來出借 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
7671.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
7673.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
那這樣就可以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
7673.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
7675.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
不會像以前的文字館 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
7675.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
7677.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
這是一個非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
7677.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
7679.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
大家共同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
7679.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
7681.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
去使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
7681.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
7683.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
那使用率都會很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
7683.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
7685.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
那未來是不是可以朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
7685.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
7687.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
7687.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
7689.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
我們朝這個方向來研議來調查相關數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
7689.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
7691.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
看有沒有適合的點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
7691.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
7693.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
我覺得那個點很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
7693.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
7695.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
因為有時候土地在都市地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
7695.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
7697.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
土地要取得蠻困難的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
7697.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
7699.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
對因為現在在我們山英 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
7699.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
7701.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
這個季落真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
7701.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
7703.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
原住民非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
7703.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
7705.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
那原住民非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
7705.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
7707.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
像是士林還有土城 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
7707.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
7709.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
那本席這邊是土城 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
7709.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
7711.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
那土城我們當初在推動原住民公園 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
7711.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
7713.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
那原住民公園也設立了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
7713.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
7715.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
但是就是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
7715.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
7717.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
遠離廣場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
7717.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
7719.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
就是還沒辦法去設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
7719.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
7721.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
這我也是多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
7721.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
7723.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
跟我們原民會來做徵起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
7723.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
7725.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
那後來還是沒辦法去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
7725.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
7727.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
很順暢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
7727.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
7729.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
來設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
7729.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
7731.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
這一點是我們真的原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
7731.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
7733.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
我們原委會真的要來做檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
7733.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
7735.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
好那事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
7735.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
7737.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
那我們也有相關的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
7737.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
7739.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
目前也在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
7739.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
7741.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
剛剛委員提的這個可能在那個計畫裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
7741.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
7743.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
也有機會來使用這個相關預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
7743.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
7745.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
但是要看我剛剛講前面那些評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
7745.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
7747.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
到底有沒有適合的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
7747.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
7749.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
位置還有原住民的人口數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
7749.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
7751.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
在那個地方是有沒有可及性可利用性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
7751.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
7753.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
這都是我們要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
7753.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
7755.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
評估的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
7755.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
7757.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
要是人數的話土城那邊是絕對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
7757.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
7759.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
絕對符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
7759.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
7761.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
這一點是我們要共同來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
7761.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
7763.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
7763.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
7765.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
7794.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
7796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
7796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
7798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
各位委員還有我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
7798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
7800.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
就請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
7800.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
7802.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
梅莊處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
7802.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
7804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
7804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
7806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
7806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
7808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
因為處長坐很久啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
7808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
7810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
7810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
7812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
副主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
7812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
7814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
7814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
7816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
今天的專案報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
7816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
7818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
7818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
7820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
你們的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
7820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
7822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
海陸南島宇族航海計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
7822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
7824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
這裡面提到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
7824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
7826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
台灣拉裔亞美族島務組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
7826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
7828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
菲律賓巴丹島群島之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
7828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
7830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
歷史海上交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
7830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
7832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
這非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
7832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
7834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
我非常支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
7834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
7836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
7836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
7838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
我的重點在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
7838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
7840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
7840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
7842.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
有沒有用到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
7842.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
7844.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
這個教文處的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
7844.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
7846.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
7846.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
7848.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
這個言文會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
7848.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
7850.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
7850.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
7852.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
語言這方面的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
7852.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
7854.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
足以的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
7854.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
7856.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
好我請那個右當安跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
7856.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
7858.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
委員處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
7858.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
7860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
7860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
7862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
有關這次海陸南島宇族航海計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
7862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
7864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
這個部分是用我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
7864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
7866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
過去中南 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
7866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
7868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
國語方案的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
7868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
7870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
來可以支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
7870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
7872.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
有沒有足以的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
7872.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
7874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
有有在國語方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
7874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
7876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
7876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
7878.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
我是非常不認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
7878.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
7880.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
非常不認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
7882.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
7884.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
我們語言的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
7884.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
7886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
就是要去讓我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
7886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
7888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
足以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
7888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
7890.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
能夠傳承 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
7890.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
7892.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
讓我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
7892.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
7894.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
7894.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
7896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
我們的小朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
7896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
7898.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
能夠學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
7898.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
7900.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
好接下來這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
7900.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
7902.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
世界原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
7902.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
7904.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
傳統運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
7904.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
7906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
這個有沒有用到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
7906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
7908.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
有沒有用到原住民族語言的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
7910.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
7912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
這個也是我們這個國語方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
7912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
7914.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
的計畫裡面的一個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
7916.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
7918.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
這個部分我有參加這個運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
7920.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
7922.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
真的很遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
7922.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
7924.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
我真的是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
7924.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
7926.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
請言明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
7926.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
7928.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
足以就要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
7928.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
7930.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
真正用在足以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
7930.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
7932.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
變了那麼多錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
7932.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
7934.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
不只是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
7934.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
7936.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
很多的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
7936.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
7938.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
你們就是用足以的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
7938.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
7940.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
他只要掛個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
7940.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
7942.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
足以兩個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
7944.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
7946.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
7946.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
7948.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
梅莊副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
7948.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
7950.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
這個業務不是你負責督導的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
7950.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
7952.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
7952.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
7954.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
有接觸啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
7954.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
7956.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
不是我說那個公文成合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
7956.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
7958.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
不是嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
7958.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
7960.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
所以你無法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
7960.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
7962.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
7962.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
7964.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
我們非常非常多的足以的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
7964.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
7966.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
就投入在這些活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
7968.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
7970.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
沒有真正落實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
7970.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
7972.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
7972.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
7974.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
7974.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
7976.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
還有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
7976.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
7978.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
小朋友的身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
7980.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
7982.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
這個請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
7982.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
7984.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
7984.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
7986.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
言明會還有言文會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
7986.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
7988.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
針對這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
7988.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
7990.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
這兩個大活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
7990.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
7992.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
所提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
7992.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
7994.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
有關足以的經費的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
7994.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
7996.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
7996.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
7998.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
能夠提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
7998.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
8000.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
相關的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
8000.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
8002.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
8002.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
8004.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
8004.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
8006.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
除了足以的傳承 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
8006.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
8008.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
就教育文化處 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
8008.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
8010.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
而言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
8010.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
8012.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
8012.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
8014.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
重中之重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
8014.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
8016.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
重中之重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
8016.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
8018.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
你看我們這個根據教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
8018.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
8020.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
進五年大專 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
8020.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
8022.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
校驗學生初再學歷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
8022.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
8024.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
的差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
8024.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
8026.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
我們從107 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
8026.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
8028.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
學年度差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
8028.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
8030.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
落差原住民跟非原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
8030.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
8032.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
的落差31.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
8032.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
8034.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
到113年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
8034.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
8036.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
逐年增高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
8036.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
8038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
到38.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
8038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
8040.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
8040.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
8042.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
落差這麼大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
8042.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
8044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
大差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
8044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
8046.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
對我們的原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
8046.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
8048.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
而言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
8048.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
8050.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
教育是重中之重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
8052.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
8054.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
8054.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
8056.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
你們應該寧可把這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
8056.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
8058.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
經費投入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
8058.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
8060.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
那邊去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
8060.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
8062.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
8062.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
8064.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
如果你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
8064.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
8066.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
沒有經費你們去積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
8066.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
8068.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
溝通協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
8068.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
8070.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
8070.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
8072.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
這才是重中之重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
8072.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
8074.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
8074.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
8076.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
真的要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
8076.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
8078.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
好好的去溝通協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
8078.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
8080.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
相關的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
8080.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
8082.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
無論是教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
8082.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
8084.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
還有研民會這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
8084.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
8086.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
怎麼樣能夠去加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
8086.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
8088.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
原住民族教育的提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
8090.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
8092.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
8092.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
8094.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
8094.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
8096.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
是不是可以請業務單位說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
8096.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
8098.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
說明什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
8098.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
8100.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
那個差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
8100.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
8102.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
8102.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
8104.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
有錯誤嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
8104.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
8106.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
這是絕對不提供給我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
8106.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
8108.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
我們一直說那個裡面有一些原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
8108.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
8110.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
原因你順便提供給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
8110.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
8112.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
8114.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
8116.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
好這個研究法今天要討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
8116.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
8118.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
8118.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
8120.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
8120.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
8122.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
8122.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
8124.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
主計單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
8124.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
8126.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
主計處 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
8126.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
8128.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
有沒有來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
8128.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
8130.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
8130.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
8132.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
這個研究法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
8132.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
8134.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
8134.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
8136.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
綜合發展基金的法言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
8136.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
8138.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
這裡面提到我們要修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
8138.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
8140.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
8140.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
8142.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
不是要去增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
8142.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
8144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
政府要反環 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
8144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
8146.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
反環 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
8146.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
8148.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
反環這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
8148.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
8150.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
我們曾經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
8152.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
8154.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
原住民族綜合發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
8154.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
8156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
105年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
8156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
8158.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
105年度的結算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
8158.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
8160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
淨值是117億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
8162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
8164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
這個是我在原民省 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
8164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
8166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
政府的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
8166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
8168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
應省議員的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
8168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
8170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
成立了這個基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
8170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
8172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
每年兼幾億幾億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
8172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
8174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
精神之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
8174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
8176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
原住民族的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
8176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
8178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
我正好也帶了中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
8178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
8180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
8180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
8182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
每年兼幾億幾億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
8182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
8184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
才有到105年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
8184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
8186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
105年的結算數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
8186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
8188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
淨值是117億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
8188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
8190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
7000多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
8190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
8192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
那當然是很遺憾的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
8192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
8194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
人民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
8194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
8196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
把它挪用做為原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
8196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
8198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
綜合發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
8198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
8200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
總共 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
8200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
8202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
挪用了53億多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
8202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
8204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
將近54億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
8204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
8206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
挪用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
8206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
8208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
8208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
8210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
在106年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
8210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
8212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
的時候做了一個結議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
8212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
8214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
8214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
8216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
那個副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
8216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
8218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
106年是民進黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
8218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
8220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
絕對多數的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
8220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
8222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
他們也認同通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
8222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
8224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
這個主結議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
8224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
8226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
要返還 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
8226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
8228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
因為是違法挪用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
8228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
8230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
因為它不符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
8230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
8232.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
8232.04 |
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8234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
8234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
8236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
進法補償是不符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
8236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
8238.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
原基法18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
8238.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
8240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
的基金的用途 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
8240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
8242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
所以要返還 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
8242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
8244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
到現在沒有返還 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
8244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
8246.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
所以我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
8246.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
8248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
我們沒有辦法增加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
8248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
8250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
所以我們只好立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
8250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
8252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
要回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
8252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
8254.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
當初 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
8254.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
8256.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
當初無論是省議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
8256.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
8258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
8258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
8260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
過去的原住民立委的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
8260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
8262.04 |
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就是100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
8262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
8264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
如果有這個100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
8264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
8266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
原住民族的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
8266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
8268.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
的住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
8268.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
8270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
在都會區的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
8270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
8272.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
就可以依住宅法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
8272.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
8274.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
第2條的第4項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
8274.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
8276.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
設原住民族的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
8276.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
8278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
專屬的社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
8278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
8280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
這個法已經通過很多年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
8280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
8282.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
你們都沒有執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
8282.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
8284.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
為什麼沒有錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
8284.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
8286.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
如果有這個基金的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
8286.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
8288.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
8288.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
8290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
花個兩億新建 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
8290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
8292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
或者是架構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
8292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
8294.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
就像汐止的花中新村 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
8294.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
8296.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
就是架構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
8296.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
8298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
成為一個社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
8300.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
8302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
然後他會有租金收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
8302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
8304.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
8304.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
8306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
會有租金收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
8306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
8308.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
就可以回到這個基金裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
8308.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
8310.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
所以他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
8310.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
8312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
很重要很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
8312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
8314.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
所以期盼我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
8314.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
8316.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
或是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
8316.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
8318.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
我們立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
8318.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
8320.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
能夠通過這個原基法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
8320.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
8322.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
8322.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
8324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
返還 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
8324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
8326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
法律裡面明定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
8326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
8328.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
因為我們不能審查預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
8328.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
8330.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
去增加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
8330.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
8332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
我們只好在法律裡面明定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
8332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
8334.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
這個時間的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
8334.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
8336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
昨天在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
8336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
8338.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
經濟委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
8338.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
8340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
上坡地保育利用條例37條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
8340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
8342.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
我的修正條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
8342.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
8344.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
增加部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
8344.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
8346.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
在我們原住民族的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
8346.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
8348.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
本來就原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
8348.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
8350.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
個人的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
8350.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
8352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
也有部落的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
8352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
8354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
8354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
8356.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
人民會說反對不同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
8356.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
8358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
引用了什麼土地法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
8358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
8360.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
8360.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
8362.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
8362.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
8364.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
現在增化邊原住民保留地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
8364.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
8366.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
沒有法律的意計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
8366.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
8368.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
當時的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
8368.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
8370.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
當時的省政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
8370.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
8372.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
厲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
8372.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
8374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
現在還要繼續增化邊保留地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
8374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
8376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
沒有土地法的意計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
8376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
8378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
沒有法律的意計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
8378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
8380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
現在我們要立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
8380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
8382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
8382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
8384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
不是沒有法律意計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
8384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
8386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
8386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
8388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
原基法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
8388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
8390.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
第二條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
8390.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
8392.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
就明定原基法第二條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
8392.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
8394.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
部落就是公法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
8394.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
8396.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
他怎麼會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
8396.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
8398.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
不符合土地法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
8398.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
8400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
不符合相關的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
8400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
8402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
對不對 但是很可惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
8402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
8404.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
很遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
8404.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
8406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
很遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
8406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
8408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
原基法第二條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
8408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
8410.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
在2014年12月16號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
8410.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
8412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
明定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
8412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
8414.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
然後授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
8414.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
8416.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
研民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
8416.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
8418.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
要定這個部落公法人設置辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
8418.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
8420.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
到現在都沒有定出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
8420.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
8422.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
那麼簡單的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
8422.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
8424.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
8424.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
8426.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
當然今天主委不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
8426.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
8428.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
但是副主委很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
8428.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
8430.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
我過去當副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
8430.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
8432.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
常務副主委的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
8432.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
8434.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
到處去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
8434.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
8436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
協調相關的部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
8436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
8438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
甚至去協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
8438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
8440.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
政務委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
8440.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
8442.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
甚至去協調政務委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
8442.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
8444.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
包括現在研民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
8444.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
8446.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
所以設置條例會通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
8446.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
8448.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
也是我去協調林旺益政務委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
8448.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
8452.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
你有沒有去協調過哪個政務委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
8452.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
8454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
8454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
8456.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
原則上是跟我們督導的政務委員會有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
8456.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
8458.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
要去拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
8458.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
8460.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
要去溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
8460.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
8462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
要去說服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
8462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
8464.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
只有靠這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
8464.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
8466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
去拜託去說服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
8466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
8468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
包括地方制度法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
8468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
8470.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
當初的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
8470.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
8472.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
要變成五都的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
8472.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
8474.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
我去協調林宗生當時的次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
8474.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
8476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
才完成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
8476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
8478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
8478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
8480.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
要去加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
8480.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
8482.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
副主委很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
8482.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
8484.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
常務副主委更重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
8484.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
8486.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
8486.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
8488.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
謝謝委員的鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
8494.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
8496.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
請教委發言諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
8506.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
8508.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
好謝謝有請副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
8512.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
8514.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
跟委員會報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
8514.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
8516.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
今天立法院很忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
8516.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
8518.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
包含教文現在也在表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
8518.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
8520.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
包含樓上這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
8520.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
8522.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
院長也主持協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
8522.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
8524.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
有關我們內政委員會的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
8524.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
8526.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
所以時間上也 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
8526.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
8528.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
跟各位委員拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
8528.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
8530.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
時間上精準一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
8530.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
8532.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
那今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
8532.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
8534.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
感謝召委排審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
8534.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
8536.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
原住民基本法以及原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
8536.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
8538.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
8538.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
8540.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
原住民基本法跟原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
8540.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
8542.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
跟今天主委所 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].start |
8542.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].end |
8544.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].text |
的行程剛好沒有辦法碰到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
8544.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].end |
8546.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].text |
主委今天去參加什麼行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].start |
8546.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
8548.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
那個希拉雅的正名記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
8548.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
8550.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
還有院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
8550.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
8552.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
其實就跟今天所要排審的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
8552.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
8554.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
內容是有高度重疊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
8554.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
8556.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
所以我們還是希望等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
8556.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].end |
8558.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
主委回來可以多做一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
8558.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
8560.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
討論那我想就針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
8560.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].end |
8562.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].text |
這個基本法身份法以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
8562.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].end |
8564.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
我最近所碰到的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
8564.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
8566.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
8566.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
8568.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
我親眼所看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
8568.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
8570.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
我在DC |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
8570.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
8572.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
訪問的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
8572.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
8574.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
我們的大使安排了我們去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
8574.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
8576.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
中華民國的外使 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
8576.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
8578.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
在DC的使館 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
8578.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].end |
8580.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
就是雙向園 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
8580.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
8582.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
在雙向園門口 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
8582.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
8584.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
我就忍不住跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
8584.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
8586.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
我們的達悟族的傳統拼板船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
8586.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
8588.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
我們在那一條達悟族的那一條船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
8588.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
8590.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
拼板舟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
8590.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
8592.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
做了合照那也是今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
8592.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
8594.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
這個專案報告裡面有講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
8594.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
8596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
我們今年度原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
8596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
8598.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
跟海委會合作去南島語族的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
8598.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
8600.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
航海計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
8600.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
8602.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
從台灣航海 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
8602.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
8604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
航海舟到菲律賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
8604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
8606.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
來那個副主委這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
8606.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
8608.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
我也看到包含我們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
8608.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
8610.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
基金會以及文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
8610.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
8612.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
也都做了相關的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
8612.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
8614.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
紀錄海委會也都 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
8614.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
8616.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
做了這些相關的這些紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
8616.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
8618.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
這個故事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
8618.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
8620.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
要怎麼樣才會精彩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
8620.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
8622.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
那是要基金會董事長來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
8622.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
8624.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
說明好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
8624.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
8626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
8626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
8628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
巴丹跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
8628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
8630.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
蘭嶼的航海 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
8630.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
8632.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
是整個南島語區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
8632.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
8634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
擴散的一個活的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
8634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
8636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
動態 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
8636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
8638.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
所以在蘭嶼其實已經喊了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
8638.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
8640.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
二十幾年要划船過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
8640.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
8642.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
那剛剛有委員提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
8642.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
8644.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
這第一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
8644.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
8646.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
有紀錄的第一次啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
8646.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
8648.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
以前不知道怎麼去的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
8648.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
8650.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
以前的交流是會到桃園 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
8650.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
8652.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
再到馬尼拉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
8652.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
8654.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
但是我們過去其實我們在海上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
8654.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
8656.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
我們不划 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
8656.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
8658.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
眼睛睜開就已經到巴丹島了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
8658.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
8660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
所以過去的航線是非常非常密切 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
8660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
8662.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
不同的兩個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
8662.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
8664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
我們就斷裂了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
8664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
8666.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
所以這一次的計畫我們的長老 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
8666.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
8668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
我們的青年都非常踴躍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
8668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
8670.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
我們本來只要六十個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
8670.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
8672.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
滑槳手 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
8672.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
8674.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
報名報到一百多個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
8674.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
8676.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
到後來叔叔要協調弟弟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
8676.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
8678.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
弟弟要協調表哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
8678.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
8680.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
先讓我滑我快去世了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
8680.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
8682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
先讓我去一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
8682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
8684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
所以這個很熱烈啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
8684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
8686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
那接下來除了這些紀錄之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
8686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
8688.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
到了菲律賓之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
8688.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
8690.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
我們還會有繼續往南 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
8690.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
8692.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
還有我們在台灣的這些相關的這些想法跟計畫嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
8692.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
8694.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
我覺得這個可以跟外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
8694.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
8696.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
多做一些聯繫合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
8696.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
8698.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
讓我們這個文化的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
8698.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
8700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
可以交流的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
8700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
8702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
可以繼續往外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
8702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
8704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
是報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
8704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
8706.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
明年夏威夷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
8706.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
8708.04 |
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福古里亞 |
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8708.04 |
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8710.04 |
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這是航行太平洋 |
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8710.04 |
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8712.04 |
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波里尼西亞跟密歐尼西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
8712.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
8714.04 |
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幾千公里的一個航海團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
8714.04 |
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8716.04 |
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他們明年會來台灣 |
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8716.04 |
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他們也跟台灣要接觸 |
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8718.04 |
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8720.04 |
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那巴丹島的省長 |
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8720.04 |
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8722.04 |
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他也希望從巴丹 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
8722.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
8724.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
滑回來蘭嶼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
8724.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
8726.04 |
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這個洋流是可以去可以回來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
8726.04 |
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對對對 |
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8728.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
8730.04 |
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我們東北風是往南 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
8730.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
8732.04 |
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所以我們往南 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
8732.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
8734.04 |
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到巴丹去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
8734.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
8736.04 |
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我們大概就是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
8736.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
8738.04 |
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這個月份五到八月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
8738.04 |
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8740.04 |
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那從巴丹上來是西南風 |
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8740.04 |
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8742.04 |
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所以他們應該會希望 |
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8742.04 |
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8744.04 |
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會在三到五月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
8744.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
8746.04 |
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西南風會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
8746.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
8748.04 |
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三到五月 |
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8748.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
8750.04 |
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西南風會順風 |
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8750.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].end |
8752.04 |
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那所以這個航海在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].start |
8752.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].end |
8754.04 |
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明年也會有一些新的進展 |
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8754.04 |
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8756.04 |
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我光聽都覺得很精彩 |
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8756.04 |
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8758.04 |
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也期待啦就是說 |
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8758.04 |
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8760.04 |
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除了去那可以如果可以 |
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8760.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].end |
8762.04 |
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真的可以再安排回來或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].start |
8762.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].end |
8764.04 |
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繼續往太平洋這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].start |
8764.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].end |
8766.04 |
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島國去做一些這些交流的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].start |
8766.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
8768.04 |
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這是令人期待的謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].start |
8768.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].end |
8770.04 |
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謝謝委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].start |
8770.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].end |
8772.04 |
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那今天我還想要談一個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
8772.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].end |
8774.04 |
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那希望委員會這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].start |
8774.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].end |
8776.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].text |
加強我們在原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].start |
8776.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].end |
8778.04 |
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就業網站看到原Job |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].start |
8778.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
8780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
他的這些培養的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].start |
8780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
8782.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
技能班其實我覺得跟勞動部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
8782.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
8784.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
的這些技能班可以有高度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
8784.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
8786.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
的結合我希望可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].start |
8786.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
8788.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
原民會可以多鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
8788.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
8790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
包含我們的這些原住民朋友呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
8790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
8792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
可以參加加入可以有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
8792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
8794.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
踏入台灣的這些科技業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].start |
8794.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
8796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
發展目前台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].start |
8796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].end |
8798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].text |
現在最缺人那也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].start |
8798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].end |
8800.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].text |
最憨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].start |
8800.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].end |
8802.04 |
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那也是發展最好的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].start |
8802.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].end |
8804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].text |
科技業產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].start |
8804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].end |
8806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].text |
那我想請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].start |
8806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].end |
8808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
那這一個就業網站目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].start |
8808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].end |
8810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].text |
的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].start |
8810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].end |
8812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].text |
跟勞動部的這些接軌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].start |
8812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].end |
8814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
的狀況怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].start |
8816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].end |
8818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].text |
跟委員報告那其實我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].start |
8818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].end |
8820.04 |
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都是有跟勞動部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].start |
8820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].end |
8822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].text |
有做合作但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].start |
8822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].end |
8824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].text |
我們是固定都會有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].start |
8824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].end |
8826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].text |
跨部會的一個會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].start |
8826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].end |
8828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].text |
我這要具體建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].start |
8828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].end |
8830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].text |
還有一些像說原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].start |
8830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].end |
8832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].text |
就業服務員跟他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].start |
8832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].end |
8834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].text |
我聽你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].start |
8834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].end |
8836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].text |
我聽你回應前兩句我先 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].start |
8836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].end |
8838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].text |
給你具體建議你說跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].start |
8838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].end |
8840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
的合作會議那個就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
8840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].end |
8842.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].text |
就代表不具體嘛加合作會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].start |
8842.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].end |
8844.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
我給你具體的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
8844.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].end |
8846.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
在高雄在佐營 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].start |
8846.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].end |
8848.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
我們有相當多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].start |
8848.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].end |
8850.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
的這個原住民朋友他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].start |
8850.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
8852.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
聚落居住在那裡約 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
8852.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].end |
8854.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
有六千人就在平山 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].start |
8854.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
8856.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
一帶那平山這一帶呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
8856.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
8858.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
甚至原委會也補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].start |
8858.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].end |
8860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
相關的這些場地那做些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
8860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].end |
8862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
修繕你知道他離台積電 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].start |
8862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].end |
8864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
廠區多遠嗎不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
8864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
8866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
一公里啊不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
8866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
8868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
一公里其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
8868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
8870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
那個聚落這個平山聚落他其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
8870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].end |
8872.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
就在這一個就整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
8872.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
8874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
台積電廠區附近 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].start |
8874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].end |
8876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
我很希望你們可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
8876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
8878.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
就現在是網站上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
8878.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].end |
8880.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
那我很希望你們可以就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
8880.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
8882.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
實地上可以跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].start |
8882.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
8884.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
勞動部來做這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
8884.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].end |
8886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
原民job你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
8886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].end |
8888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
原job這個工作的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].start |
8888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
8890.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
媒合那可以讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].start |
8890.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
8892.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
我們原民朋友有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].start |
8892.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].end |
8894.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
可以感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].start |
8894.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
8896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
我們這個聚落我們在高雄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
8896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
8898.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
佐營我們這個聚落居然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
8898.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
8900.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
離半導體產業這麼近 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
8900.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
8902.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
我們有沒有機會進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
8902.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
8904.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].text |
我們要去學什麼有機會進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
8904.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
8906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
我們要怎麼樣進修有機會進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
8906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
8908.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
我們如果 |
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8908.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].end |
8910.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
光是透過勞動部不夠我們透 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].start |
8910.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
8912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].text |
原民會原委會我們還可以 |
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8912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
8914.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].text |
協助我們的族人 |
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8914.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
8916.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
可以做什麼可以有機會我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
8916.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].end |
8918.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].text |
這個是我希望可以 |
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8918.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
8920.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].text |
務實實際的在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].start |
8920.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
8922.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
高雄佐營來發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].start |
8922.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].end |
8924.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].text |
這個來副主委這個請你回應 |
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8924.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].end |
8926.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].text |
我先跟委員報告一下 |
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8926.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].end |
8928.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].text |
我們高雄其實我們也有我們的就業服務站 |
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那針對這些AI |
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或是有些相關的我們會開發 |
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我現在講的你的這個就業 |
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服務站在前陣那我講的是 |
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佐營這個基地你們也可以 |
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好好的利用來副主委你請你回應 |
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謝謝委員的這個提示 |
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針對委員剛剛講這部分我們會加強 |
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在地方的這個就業服務站 |
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還有我們這個網站跟那個勞動部 |
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要怎麼去結合他們 |
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我希望可以實際上看到你們在佐營 |
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就是針對那個重點的部分去做這個媒介 |
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那做這個媒介協助你們的族人 |
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來一起可能 |
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可以加入高雄的半導體產業 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝委員 |
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好 |
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8968.04 |
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因為稍等還要處理 |
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這個法案 |
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所以我們大概等巡達完之後 |
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再休息 |
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8976.04 |
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如果說有任何狀況可以隨時提出 |
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沒有問題那我們下一位請吳立華 |
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委員發言質詢 |
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謝謝主席 |
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有請副主委 |
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很可惜沒有主委在 |
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好委員好 |
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今天 |
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特別在內政委員會 |
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邀請原民會 |
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做這樣的一個 |
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專報 |
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但是與此同時 |
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此時此刻 |
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我知道的是在行政院的大禮堂 |
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有舉辦一個西拉亞族民族 |
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的一個專報 |
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但是我們也沒有 |
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西拉亞族民族合訂 |
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暨正名宣告的一個典禮 |
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西拉亞族加入 |
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原住民族的第十七族 |
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這是何等 |
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困難 |
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9036.04 |
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何等重要的一件事 |
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那照理說 |
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我們這些原住民的委員 |
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我們是弟兄姊妹 |
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9044.04 |
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我們應該要去那個地方 |
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共同的來見證 |
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這個很特別的日子 |
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但是我非常遺憾 |
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我沒有辦法參與 |
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我真的非常的遺憾 |
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不過呢今天在這裡 |
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我也要特別提 |
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今天是七月三十號 |
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9062.04 |
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前天七月二十八號 |
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9064.04 |
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對原住民來講 |
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是一個非常重要的日子 |
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因為在一九九四年 |
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9070.04 |
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那一天 |
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9072.04 |
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我們從山包 |
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9074.04 |
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正名為原住民 |
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9076.04 |
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但是 |
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9078.04 |
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經過了這三十二年 |
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9078.04 |
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我不知道 |
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我們有沒有更進步 |
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9084.04 |
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所以我等一下我特別 |
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9086.04 |
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要來複習這一段歷史的關課 |
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9086.04 |
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9088.04 |
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那後天呢 |
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9090.04 |
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八月一號 |
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9092.04 |
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也是非常重要的日子 |
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9092.04 |
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9094.04 |
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叫做原住民族日 |
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9094.04 |
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9096.04 |
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所以從二零零五年 |
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9096.04 |
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9098.04 |
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制定這個日子 |
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9098.04 |
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9100.04 |
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我相信 |
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9102.04 |
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這一些二十一年來 |
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我們也看到 |
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9106.04 |
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很多的演變 |
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9106.04 |
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9108.04 |
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但是我們到底有沒有變得更好 |
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9108.04 |
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9110.04 |
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原住民有沒有變得更進步 |
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9110.04 |
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9112.04 |
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那回過頭來 |
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9112.04 |
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9114.04 |
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我們要回到一九九一年 |
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9114.04 |
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9116.04 |
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這一次的修憲 |
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9116.04 |
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9118.04 |
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因為一九九一年 |
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9118.04 |
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9120.04 |
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這個中華民國的憲法 |
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9120.04 |
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9122.04 |
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是在南京 |
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9122.04 |
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9124.04 |
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一決制定的 |
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9124.04 |
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9126.04 |
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來到台灣 |
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9126.04 |
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9128.04 |
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我們常常講 |
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9128.04 |
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9130.04 |
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這個衣服沒有量身定制 |
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9130.04 |
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9132.04 |
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修修補補 |
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9132.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].end |
9134.04 |
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怎麼補怎麼改 |
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9134.04 |
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9136.04 |
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穿起來就是不好看 |
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9136.04 |
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9138.04 |
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就是不舒服 |
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9138.04 |
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9140.04 |
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那好不容易呢 |
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9140.04 |
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9142.04 |
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一九九一年為了因應終止動員 |
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9144.04 |
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看亂時期 |
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9144.04 |
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9146.04 |
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我們終於開始了修憲 |
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9146.04 |
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9148.04 |
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可是這一次的修憲 |
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9148.04 |
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9150.04 |
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我要特別講 |
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9150.04 |
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9152.04 |
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當年的這些原權團體 |
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9152.04 |
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9154.04 |
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我們原住民的權益 |
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9154.04 |
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9156.04 |
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促進會這些團體 |
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9156.04 |
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9158.04 |
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他們把握這一次 |
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9158.04 |
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9160.04 |
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修憲的機會好不容易 |
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9160.04 |
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9162.04 |
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他們的訴求是什麼呢 |
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9162.04 |
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9166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].text |
希望用台灣原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].start |
9166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].end |
9168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].text |
這六個字來取代 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].start |
9168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].end |
9170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].text |
平地三包 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].start |
9170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].end |
9172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].text |
三地三包 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].start |
9172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].end |
9176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].text |
可是完全沒有被接納 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].start |
9176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].end |
9178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].text |
到了一九九二年的第二次修憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].start |
9178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].end |
9180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].start |
9180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].end |
9184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].text |
國民黨中常會決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].start |
9184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].end |
9186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].text |
要把三包改成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].start |
9186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].end |
9188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].text |
早住民或先住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].start |
9188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].end |
9192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].text |
引起各界強烈的反彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].start |
9192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].end |
9194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].text |
所以原權團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].start |
9194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].end |
9196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].text |
他們特別到國民大會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].start |
9196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].end |
9198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].text |
訴求第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].start |
9198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].end |
9200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].text |
希望三包 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].start |
9200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].end |
9202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].text |
要正名為原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].start |
9202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].end |
9204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].text |
所以我們很清楚的看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].start |
9204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].end |
9206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].text |
所以當時呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].start |
9206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].end |
9208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].text |
民進黨的一個國大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].start |
9208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].end |
9210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].text |
叫做吳清貴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].start |
9210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].end |
9212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].text |
他特別有做出一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].start |
9212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].end |
9214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].text |
第三十四號的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].start |
9214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].end |
9216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].text |
他的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].start |
9216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].end |
9218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].text |
他的提案就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].start |
9218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].end |
9220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].text |
希望叫原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].start |
9220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].end |
9222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].text |
但是呢不成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].start |
9222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].end |
9224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].text |
在二讀以前就被封殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].start |
9224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].end |
9226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].text |
同時呢當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].start |
9226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].end |
9228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].text |
國民黨的泰雅族委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].start |
9228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].end |
9230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].text |
翁文德 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].start |
9230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].end |
9234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].text |
他也做了一個第八十八號的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].start |
9234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].end |
9236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].text |
他的版本是寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].start |
9236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].end |
9238.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].text |
自由地區原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].start |
9238.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].end |
9240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].text |
有進入到二讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].start |
9240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].end |
9242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].text |
但是最後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].start |
9242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].end |
9244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].text |
也沒有成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].start |
9244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].end |
9248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].text |
所以到了第三次的修憲前夕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].start |
9248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].end |
9250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].text |
我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].start |
9250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].end |
9252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].text |
當時的李登輝總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].start |
9252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].end |
9254.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].text |
他參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].start |
9254.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].end |
9258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].text |
我們南部原住民文化園區的文化會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].start |
9258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].end |
9262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].text |
他特別講出原住民三個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].start |
9262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].end |
9264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].text |
我們也看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].start |
9264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].end |
9266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].text |
他跟很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].start |
9266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].end |
9268.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].text |
台派的國民黨員呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].start |
9268.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].end |
9270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].text |
也希望他們能夠支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].start |
9270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].end |
9272.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].text |
所以促使了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].start |
9272.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].end |
9274.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].text |
所以促使了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].start |
9274.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].end |
9276.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].text |
國民黨版的修憲草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].start |
9276.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].end |
9278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].text |
把三包寫成了原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].start |
9278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].end |
9280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].text |
我們也看到七月一號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].start |
9280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].end |
9282.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].text |
也就是前夕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].start |
9282.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].end |
9284.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].text |
七月二十八號的前夕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].start |
9284.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].end |
9286.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].text |
李前總統在接見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].start |
9286.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].end |
9288.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].text |
元全團體的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].start |
9288.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].end |
9290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].text |
公報記錄上寫著 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].start |
9290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].end |
9292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].text |
當時的國大代表曹啟宏 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].start |
9292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].end |
9294.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].text |
他有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].start |
9294.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].end |
9298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].text |
他說李登輝在接見各族代表的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].start |
9298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].end |
9300.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].text |
當場親口答應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].start |
9300.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].end |
9302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].text |
李登輝在做什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].start |
9302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].end |
9306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].text |
山地原住民平地原住民這種區分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].start |
9306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].end |
9308.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].text |
但是國民黨的黨版修憲案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].start |
9308.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].end |
9310.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].text |
對此仍然不願意放鬆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].start |
9310.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].end |
9312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].start |
9312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].end |
9314.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].text |
我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].start |
9314.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].end |
9316.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].text |
一九九四年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].start |
9316.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].end |
9318.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].text |
最後七月二十八號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].start |
9318.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].end |
9320.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].text |
有兩個提案版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].start |
9320.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].end |
9322.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].text |
一個是陳菊的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].start |
9322.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].end |
9324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].text |
他的版本是來接納 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].start |
9324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].end |
9326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].text |
我們元全團體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].start |
9326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].end |
9328.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].text |
一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].start |
9328.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].end |
9330.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].text |
也就是寫到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].start |
9330.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].end |
9332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].text |
台灣原住民族六人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].start |
9332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].end |
9334.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].text |
但是呢當時國民黨版 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].start |
9334.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].end |
9336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].text |
提出的叫做自由地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].start |
9336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].end |
9340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].text |
平地原住民及山地原住民各三人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].start |
9340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].end |
9342.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].text |
所以在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].start |
9342.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].end |
9344.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].text |
特別看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].start |
9344.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].end |
9346.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].text |
在公報上面有一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].start |
9346.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].end |
9348.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].text |
阿美族的國大代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].start |
9348.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].end |
9350.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].text |
林榮輝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].start |
9350.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].end |
9352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].text |
他有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].start |
9352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].end |
9354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].text |
他說在國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].start |
9354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].end |
9356.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].text |
黨版的提案當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].start |
9356.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].end |
9358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].text |
內部的討論是基於平地三包 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].start |
9358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].end |
9360.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].text |
與山地三包的名義分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].start |
9362.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].end |
9364.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].text |
但是他裡面也提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].start |
9364.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].end |
9366.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].text |
他希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].start |
9366.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].end |
9368.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].text |
難道我們會分住在山上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].start |
9368.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].end |
9370.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].text |
叫山地閩南人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].start |
9370.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].end |
9372.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].text |
住在平地的叫平地客家人嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].start |
9372.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].end |
9374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].text |
所以當時也非常同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].start |
9374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].end |
9378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].text |
就是主張原住民就是原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].start |
9378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].end |
9380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].text |
他也表達了一個文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].start |
9380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].end |
9382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].text |
叫做為德不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].start |
9382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].end |
9384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].text |
他覺得這個版本為德不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].start |
9386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].end |
9388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].text |
所以在這個當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].start |
9388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].end |
9390.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].text |
我們其實可以明確的感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].start |
9390.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].end |
9392.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].text |
像很多的國大代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].start |
9392.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].end |
9394.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].text |
民進黨的賴坤誠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].start |
9394.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].end |
9396.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].text |
也去主張這樣的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].start |
9396.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].end |
9398.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].text |
主張應該要廢除 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].start |
9398.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].end |
9402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].text |
這種對原住民的殖民遺續的分類 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].start |
9402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].end |
9404.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].text |
不論是從清朝清代 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].start |
9404.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].end |
9406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].text |
或者是日本人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].start |
9406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].end |
9408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].text |
一直到了國民政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].start |
9408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].end |
9410.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].text |
這一種希望能夠給原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].start |
9410.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].end |
9412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].text |
最起碼的尊嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].start |
9412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].end |
9414.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].text |
能夠廢除 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].start |
9414.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].end |
9416.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].text |
但是很可惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].start |
9416.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].end |
9418.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].text |
我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].start |
9418.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].end |
9420.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].text |
當時的國民大會的代表席次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].start |
9420.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].end |
9422.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].text |
總共是325席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].start |
9422.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].end |
9424.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].text |
那麼國民黨254席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].start |
9424.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].end |
9426.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].text |
民進黨66席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].start |
9426.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
9428.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
5黨5席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].start |
9428.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
9430.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
所以我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].start |
9430.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
9432.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
當時的一個投票的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].start |
9432.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
9434.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].start |
9434.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
9438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
民進黨對於自己的一個成局的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].start |
9438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
9440.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].start |
9440.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
9442.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
就是56票 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].start |
9442.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
9444.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
這56票是怎麼來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].start |
9444.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
9446.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
我要特別說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].start |
9446.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].end |
9450.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
就是全部民進黨的49票 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].start |
9450.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
9454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
加上全部當時原住民國大的7票 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].start |
9454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
9458.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
總共56票同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].start |
9458.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].end |
9460.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
那在國民黨版的投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].start |
9460.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].end |
9462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].text |
我們可以發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].start |
9462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].end |
9466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].text |
因為國民黨版是要說自由地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].start |
9466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].end |
9468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].text |
平地三包 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].start |
9468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].end |
9470.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].text |
山地三包 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].start |
9470.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].end |
9472.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
所以在這個當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].start |
9472.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].end |
9474.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].text |
我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].start |
9474.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].end |
9476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].text |
即便是原本國民黨如果全部支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].start |
9476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].end |
9478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].text |
應該可以通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].start |
9478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].end |
9480.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].text |
仍然未通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].start |
9480.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
9482.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
所以重新投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].start |
9482.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
9484.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
之後因為有人離席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].start |
9484.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].end |
9486.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].text |
我特別要交代這一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].start |
9486.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
9488.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
就是要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].start |
9488.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].end |
9490.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
我們現在看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].start |
9490.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
9492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
這個定案的現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].start |
9492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].end |
9494.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
也就是那個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].start |
9494.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
9496.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
我們不得已留下來的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].start |
9496.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
9498.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
9498.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].end |
9500.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
就是地區平地原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
9500.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].end |
9502.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
及山地原住民各三人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
9502.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
9504.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
9504.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
9506.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
原住民沒有放棄 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
9506.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
9508.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].text |
2020年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
9508.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].end |
9510.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].text |
我來到立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
9510.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].end |
9512.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
我參與修憲小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
9512.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
9514.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
我就是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
9514.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
9516.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
能夠延續 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
9516.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
9518.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
過去沒有能夠完成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
9518.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
9520.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
這樣的一個使命 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
9520.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
9522.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
但是非常的可惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].start |
9522.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
9524.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].start |
9524.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
9526.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
連署共39人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
9526.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].end |
9528.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
我拿去給所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
9528.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
9530.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
不分黨派的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
9530.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
9532.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
但是我只連署到39人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
9532.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
9534.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
連要出立法院都沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].start |
9534.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
9536.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
黃潤要進入公投 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
9536.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
9538.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
所以2024年第二屆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].start |
9538.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
9540.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
我第11屆進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
9540.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
9542.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
我依然提出這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
9542.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
9544.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
修憲提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
9544.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
9546.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
9546.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
9548.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
更少了36人連署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
9548.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
9550.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
依舊沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
9550.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
9552.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
所以我現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
9552.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
9554.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
我參與了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
9554.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
9556.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
連署依舊沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
9556.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
9558.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
我在這邊很高興 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].start |
9558.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
9560.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
今天下午我們會提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
9560.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
9562.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
原住民的身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
9562.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
9564.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
我要特別提到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
9564.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
9566.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
國大原來的修憲程序的門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
9566.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
9568.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
就已經很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
9568.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
9570.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
現行修憲程序的門檻更高 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
9570.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
9572.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
修憲那麼難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
9572.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
9574.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
那我們就回到原住民身份法去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
9574.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
9576.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
我們主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].start |
9576.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
9578.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
山地原住民平地原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
9578.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
9580.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
平埔原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
9580.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
9582.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
南島語系的民族原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
9582.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
9584.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
就是原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
9584.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
9586.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
今天7月30號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
9586.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
9588.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
希拉亞族 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
9588.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
9590.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
他能夠正式加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
9590.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
9592.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
原住民族的第17族 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
9592.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
9594.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
這是一個非常非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
9594.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
9596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
重要的日子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
9596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
9598.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
9598.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
9600.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
連平埔族 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].start |
9600.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
9602.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
希拉亞加入都這麼難了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
9602.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
9604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
所以今天的原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
9604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
9606.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
我有一個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
9606.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
9608.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
就是第7條的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
9608.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
9610.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
第二項的增列 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
9610.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
9612.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
我希望取消 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
9612.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
9614.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
落日條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
9614.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
9616.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
9616.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
9618.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
我剛剛講了連平埔族 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
9618.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
9620.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
連希拉亞族要加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
9620.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
9622.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
原住民的大家庭就這麼難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
9622.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
9624.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
我們應該讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
9624.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
9626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
父母本來可以取得原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
9626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
9628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
卻因為他們已經死亡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
9628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
9630.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
導致無法依父母身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
9630.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
9632.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
取得原住民身份的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
9632.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
9634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
我們希望他們也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
9634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
9636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
用傳統名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
9636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
9638.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
取得原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].start |
9638.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
9640.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
我希望取消這個落日條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
9640.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
9642.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
我覺得這是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
9642.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
9644.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
應該大家一同要來做的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
9644.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
9646.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
因為原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
9646.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
9648.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
就是原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
9648.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
9650.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
副主委我今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
9650.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
9652.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
沒有讓這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
9652.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
9654.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
成為詢答 |
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9654.04 |
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9656.04 |
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沒有讓你回覆任何一句話 |
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9656.04 |
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9658.04 |
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我只是希望原民會 |
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9658.04 |
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9660.04 |
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要很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
9660.04 |
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9662.04 |
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原民會的立場 |
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9662.04 |
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9664.04 |
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該堅持的 |
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9664.04 |
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9666.04 |
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就要堅持 |
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9666.04 |
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9668.04 |
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該去跟 |
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9668.04 |
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9670.04 |
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各個行政院 |
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9670.04 |
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9672.04 |
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部會溝通的就該做 |
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9672.04 |
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9674.04 |
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我覺得這是原民會 |
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9674.04 |
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9676.04 |
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最重要的一個任務 |
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9676.04 |
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9678.04 |
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那很希望今天下午的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].start |
9678.04 |
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9680.04 |
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原住民身份法的一個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].start |
9680.04 |
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9682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
我們能夠幫助 |
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9682.04 |
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9684.04 |
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我們許多想要成為 |
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9684.04 |
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9686.04 |
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原住民的這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
9686.04 |
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9688.04 |
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族人朋友能夠一同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
9688.04 |
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9690.04 |
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進入這個大家庭 |
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9690.04 |
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9692.04 |
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只回答一句可以嗎 |
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9692.04 |
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9694.04 |
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你會強力捍衛嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
9694.04 |
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9696.04 |
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會強力捍衛嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
9696.04 |
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9698.04 |
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我們下午申法案的時候我們會一起討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
9698.04 |
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9700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
而且委員提的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].start |
9700.04 |
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9702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
這個草案的內容事實上我們是支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
9702.04 |
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9704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
9704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
9706.04 |
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謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
9712.04 |
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9714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
我們下一位請中嘉賓委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
9724.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
9726.04 |
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主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
9730.04 |
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9732.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
主席在黨委員先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
9732.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
9734.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
列席政府將長官員會長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
9734.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
9736.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
公後夥伴記者媒體女士先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
9736.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
9738.04 |
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那麼有請多一點 |
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9738.04 |
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9740.04 |
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我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
9740.04 |
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9742.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
杜章梅莊主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
9742.04 |
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9744.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
副主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
9744.04 |
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9746.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
還有謝亞傑處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
9746.04 |
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9748.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
以及 |
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9748.04 |
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9750.04 |
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內政部的 |
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9750.04 |
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9752.04 |
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地政司張哲明 |
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9752.04 |
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9754.04 |
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檢認視察 |
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9754.04 |
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9756.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
還有我們財政部國產署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
9756.04 |
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9758.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].text |
的羅玉華副組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
9758.04 |
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9760.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
還有農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
9760.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
9762.04 |
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林保署的黃靖諺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
9762.04 |
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9764.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
副組長以及水保署的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
9764.04 |
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9766.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
簡以達檢證工程師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
9776.04 |
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9778.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
好謝謝 |
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9778.04 |
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9780.04 |
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副主委來請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
9780.04 |
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9782.04 |
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我就延續剛剛武麗華委員的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].start |
9782.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
9784.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
你在求學的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].start |
9784.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
9786.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
有被稱呼過三包嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
9786.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
9788.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
山地人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
9788.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
9790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
那你覺得這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
9790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
9792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
或者有聽到煩惱 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
9792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
9794.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
你會不會覺得不舒服 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
9794.04 |
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9796.04 |
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會啊 會很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
9796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
9798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
其實我在1996年也是剛好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
9798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
9800.04 |
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是第三屆國大代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
9800.04 |
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9802.04 |
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但是我在1994年我就上過陽明山 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
9802.04 |
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9804.04 |
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不是為了當國大代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
9804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
9806.04 |
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是為了呼應很多原權團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
9806.04 |
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9808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
去要求正名 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
9808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
9810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
為什麼正名 為原住民正名 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
9810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
9812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
那如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
9812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
9814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
原住民叫三包 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
9814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
9816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
那我叫做什麼 叫漢包 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
9816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
9818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
而且還分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
9818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
9820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
胡老漢包跟客家漢包 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
9820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
9822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
你會接受嗎 你認為我會接受嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
9822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
9824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
我當然不會接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
9824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
9826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
所以剛剛武衛員說到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
9826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
9828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
將原住民區分成三地原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
9828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
9830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
跟平地原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
9830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
9832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
先入為主 就有將原住民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
9832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
9834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
生活領域局限在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
9834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
9836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
台灣的特定地區 你覺得如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
9836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
9838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
你覺得這樣好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
9838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
9840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
9840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
9842.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].text |
不是嘛 因為整個台灣最早的時候都是原住民嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
9842.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
9844.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].text |
對不對 難道最早的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
9844.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].end |
9846.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].text |
台灣的原住民有分區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
9846.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
9848.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].text |
住在山上跟平地的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
9848.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
9850.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].text |
通通都是我們原住民的一個領域嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
9850.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].end |
9852.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
好 那我現在要問的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
9852.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
9854.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
那如果未來我們修憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
9854.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
9856.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].text |
將憲法當中的三元跟平元拿掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
9856.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].end |
9858.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].text |
就是只有原住民 你會不會支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].start |
9860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].end |
9862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
我說修憲後你會不會支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
9862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
9864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
會 會支持 很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
9864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].end |
9866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].text |
那現在開始進入今天本題了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
9866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
9868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
那說到原住民的生存活動空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
9868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
9870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
你認為原住民保留地 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
9870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
9872.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
通通都是山坡地嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
9874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
9876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].text |
保留地其實不盡然全部在山坡地 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
9876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
9878.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].text |
大部分是而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
9878.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
9880.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].text |
是 因為山坡地的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
9880.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].end |
9882.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].text |
是在100公尺以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
9882.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].end |
9884.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].text |
或者是海拔100公尺以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].start |
9884.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].end |
9886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].text |
坡度超過5%的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
9886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].end |
9888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].text |
我們屏東很多原鄉它的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
9888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].end |
9890.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].text |
就沒有超過100公尺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
9890.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
9892.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].text |
也沒有超過5% |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
9892.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].end |
9896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].text |
用的使用卻收到山坡地保育條例的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].start |
9896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].end |
9898.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].text |
好 我再請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].start |
9898.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].end |
9900.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].text |
你認為 來我請教一下那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].start |
9900.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].end |
9902.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].text |
水保署的檢認 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
9902.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].end |
9904.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].text |
檢認工程師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].start |
9904.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].end |
9906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].text |
是 國人好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
9906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].end |
9908.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].text |
山坡地保育條例對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].start |
9908.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].end |
9910.04 |
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是 建民登記應該規範在山坡地保育條例嗎 |
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9912.04 |
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9914.04 |
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其實山坡地保育條例 |
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9914.04 |
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9916.04 |
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國安不敢建民登記 |
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9916.04 |
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9918.04 |
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不管 不管 好很好 可以請你可請回了 |
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好 副主委 |
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9920.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].end |
9922.04 |
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來 請你們的處長告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
9922.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].end |
9924.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].text |
昨天他在我們修山坡地保育條例的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].start |
9924.04 |
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9926.04 |
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他是不是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
9926.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].end |
9928.04 |
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把建民登記的條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
9928.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].end |
9930.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
放在山坡地保育條例裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].start |
9930.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].end |
9932.04 |
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你可以問他 有沒有 |
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處長 有沒有 |
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9934.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
9936.04 |
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我們的規劃是要放在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
9936.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
9938.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
我們這個原保地的管理 |
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9938.04 |
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9944.04 |
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是嗎 我們是有原住民族保留地的一個管理辦條例嘛 對不對 |
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9944.04 |
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好 那我們看一下 |
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9948.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].text |
往前第一張 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
9948.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
9950.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
原住民保留地的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
9950.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
9952.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
不應該訂在山坡地保育條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
9952.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
9954.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
要另訂專法 對不對 |
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9954.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
9956.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
這是你們的主張 是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
9956.04 |
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9958.04 |
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好 那我們來看一下 為什麼會有這個主張呢 |
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9958.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
9960.04 |
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我們往下看 |
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9960.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
9962.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
其實在110年有一個108台上大致 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
9962.04 |
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9964.04 |
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也就是最高法院的民事大法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
9964.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
9966.04 |
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他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
9966.04 |
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9968.04 |
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關於非原住民以建民登記這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
9968.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
9970.04 |
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違反了民法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
9970.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
9972.04 |
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因屬無效 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
9972.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
9974.04 |
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大法庭已經做上了裁示了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
9974.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
9976.04 |
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所以關於很多建民登記的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
9976.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
9978.04 |
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就爆發出來了嘛 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
9978.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
9980.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
甚至我們來看今年 |
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9980.04 |
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9982.04 |
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往下看 |
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9982.04 |
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9984.04 |
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今年14年有個憲判 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
9984.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
9986.04 |
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去年有個憲判 |
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9986.04 |
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9988.04 |
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這個憲判說什麼 他是不予受理喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
9988.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
9990.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].text |
這個憲判說 |
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9990.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].end |
9992.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
所謂的 我們看內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
9992.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
9996.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
原住民保留地之所有權取得資格與審查程序及部落參與等 |
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9996.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
10000.04 |
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是原住民保留地私有制度之核心事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].start |
10000.04 |
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10002.04 |
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因屬國會保留事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
10002.04 |
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10004.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].text |
所以他們不介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
10004.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
10006.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
國會保留 所以他說這個不屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
10006.04 |
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10008.04 |
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我們憲法法庭裁判的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].start |
10008.04 |
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10010.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
10010.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
10012.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
但是過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
10012.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
10014.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
卻利用三波地保育條例第三條第六項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
10014.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].end |
10016.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].text |
的控排授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].start |
10016.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].end |
10018.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].text |
以至於中央原住民主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].start |
10018.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].end |
10020.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].text |
需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].start |
10020.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].end |
10022.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].text |
必須要另訂原住民保留地開發 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].start |
10022.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].end |
10024.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].text |
管理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].start |
10024.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].end |
10026.04 |
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管理辦法是不是法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].start |
10026.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].end |
10028.04 |
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不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].start |
10028.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].end |
10030.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].text |
不符合國會保留原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].start |
10030.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].end |
10032.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].text |
不符合一定要國會立法 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].start |
10032.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].end |
10034.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].text |
所以違反了憲法第23條的法律明確性規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].start |
10034.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].end |
10036.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].text |
所以 |
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10036.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].end |
10038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].text |
行政院有沒有後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].start |
10038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].end |
10040.04 |
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原民會有沒有送出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].start |
10040.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].end |
10042.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].text |
這樣的一個專法 原保地的條例專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
10042.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].end |
10044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].text |
這個我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].start |
10044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].end |
10046.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].text |
110年曾經送過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].start |
10046.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].end |
10048.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
有 我這裡拿到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].start |
10048.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
10050.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].text |
111年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].start |
10050.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].end |
10052.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].text |
行政院有送到立法院來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
10052.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].end |
10054.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
立法院怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
10054.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
10056.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
副主委你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
10056.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].end |
10058.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].text |
後來有一些討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
10058.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].end |
10060.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].text |
有一些爭議的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].start |
10060.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].end |
10062.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].text |
後來有一些委員包括在場原住民委員反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].start |
10062.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].end |
10064.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].text |
所以他就沒有通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
10064.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].end |
10066.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].text |
在場原住民委員反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
10066.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].end |
10068.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].text |
原民會在行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].start |
10068.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].end |
10070.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].text |
送來的原住民主保留地的條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
10070.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].end |
10072.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].text |
管理條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
10072.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].end |
10074.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].text |
我不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].start |
10074.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].end |
10076.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].text |
我不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
10076.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].end |
10078.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
原住民的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
10078.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].end |
10080.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
當行政院訂定專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
10080.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].end |
10082.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
符合憲法的要旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
10082.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
10084.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
符合到法庭的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].start |
10084.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].end |
10086.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].text |
居然反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].start |
10086.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].end |
10088.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].text |
副主委你們偷偷告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].start |
10088.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].end |
10090.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].text |
到底那時候你有沒有在原民會了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].start |
10090.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].end |
10092.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].text |
當時原住民委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].start |
10092.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].end |
10094.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].text |
那幾位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].start |
10094.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].end |
10096.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].text |
為什麼要反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].start |
10096.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].end |
10098.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].text |
在場你不好意思講嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].start |
10098.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].end |
10100.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].text |
因為委員在場你不好意思講嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].start |
10100.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].end |
10102.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].start |
10102.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].end |
10104.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].text |
沒有要你發言時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].start |
10104.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].end |
10106.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].text |
你昨天都講過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].start |
10106.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].end |
10108.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].start |
10108.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].end |
10110.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].text |
那時候你講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].start |
10110.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].end |
10112.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].text |
就是因為這個關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].start |
10112.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].end |
10114.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].text |
到目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].start |
10114.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].end |
10116.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].text |
戒棄不連續 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].start |
10116.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].end |
10118.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].text |
法庭條例結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].start |
10118.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].end |
10120.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].text |
功敗垂成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].start |
10120.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].end |
10122.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].text |
因為少數部分原住民委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].start |
10122.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].end |
10124.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].text |
基於私立反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].start |
10124.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].end |
10126.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].text |
結果就打消了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].start |
10126.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].end |
10128.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].text |
本屆立法院行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].start |
10128.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].end |
10130.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].text |
有沒有要再送出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].start |
10130.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].end |
10132.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].text |
目前我們已經送到行政院了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].start |
10132.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].end |
10134.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].text |
你們有沒有關於建民登記的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].start |
10134.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].end |
10136.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].start |
10136.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].end |
10138.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].text |
包含剛剛三十七條 |
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10138.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].end |
10140.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].text |
全部在那個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].start |
10140.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].end |
10142.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].text |
如果這個專法沒有趕快在立法院通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].start |
10142.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].end |
10144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].text |
剛剛所秀出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].start |
10144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].end |
10146.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].text |
這些原住民族保留地的相關產權爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].start |
10146.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].end |
10148.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].text |
透過建民登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].start |
10148.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].end |
10150.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].text |
有沒有法律可以處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].start |
10150.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].end |
10152.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].start |
10152.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].end |
10154.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].text |
所以我在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].start |
10154.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].end |
10156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].text |
我要請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].start |
10156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].end |
10158.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].text |
這麼多人在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].start |
10158.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].end |
10160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].text |
這裡面我為什麼要請林保署呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].start |
10160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].end |
10162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].text |
林保署負責我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].start |
10162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].end |
10164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].text |
環境保育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].start |
10164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].end |
10166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].text |
裡面有沒有很多元寶地 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].start |
10166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].end |
10168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].text |
你們怎麼處理遇到這些爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].start |
10168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].end |
10170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].text |
遇到建民登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].start |
10170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].end |
10172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].text |
到底要處分行為人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].start |
10172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].end |
10174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].text |
有沒有很多的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].start |
10174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].end |
10176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].text |
我再另外問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].start |
10176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].end |
10178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].text |
我們國產署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].start |
10178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].end |
10180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].text |
我們國產署管轄用地 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].start |
10180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].end |
10182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].text |
有沒有跟元寶地有一些認定的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].start |
10184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].end |
10186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].text |
有認定產權 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].start |
10186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].end |
10188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].text |
借鑒的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].start |
10188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].end |
10190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].text |
如果沒有這個專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].start |
10190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].end |
10192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].text |
我們國有財產 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].start |
10192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].end |
10194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].text |
不管是國有林地還是國有土地的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].start |
10194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].end |
10196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].text |
有沒有辦法釐清哪些是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].start |
10196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].end |
10198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].text |
我們屬於原住民的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].start |
10198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].end |
10200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].text |
你們遇到建民登記怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].start |
10200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].end |
10204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].text |
建民登記的審理的權責是地政單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].start |
10204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].end |
10206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].text |
很好你幫他叫地政單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].start |
10206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].end |
10208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].text |
來地政司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].start |
10208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].end |
10210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].text |
張捷克視察 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].start |
10210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].end |
10212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].text |
你們怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].start |
10212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].end |
10214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].text |
目前建民登記如果是施選部分都要訴請法院來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].start |
10214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].end |
10216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].text |
訴請法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].start |
10216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].end |
10218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].text |
一個案子case by case |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].start |
10218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].end |
10220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].text |
所以未來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].start |
10220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].end |
10222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].text |
原住民保留地的處理條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].start |
10222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].end |
10224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].text |
如果送到本院來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].start |
10224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].end |
10226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].text |
會在哪裡審理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].start |
10226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].end |
10228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].text |
會在內政委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].start |
10228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].end |
10230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].text |
會不會有內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].start |
10230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].end |
10232.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].text |
會不會有地政司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].start |
10232.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].end |
10234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].text |
是不是可以跟這些問題做一個完全正本清源的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].start |
10234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].end |
10236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].text |
好副主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].start |
10236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].end |
10238.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].text |
我請教一下你支不支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].start |
10238.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].end |
10240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].text |
關於原住民保留地關於建民登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].start |
10240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].end |
10242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].text |
這些長期來的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].start |
10242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].end |
10244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].text |
困擾我們原住民朋友的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].start |
10244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].end |
10246.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].text |
希望有個專法通過後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].start |
10246.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].end |
10248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].text |
送到本院來審理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].start |
10248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].end |
10250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].text |
我們這個內政委員來審理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].start |
10250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].end |
10252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].text |
你支不支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].start |
10252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].end |
10254.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].text |
這個一直都是原民規規劃希望朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].start |
10254.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].end |
10256.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].text |
是的你好好告訴你們處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].start |
10256.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].end |
10258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].text |
昨天在我們經濟委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].start |
10258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].end |
10260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].text |
我們在修三波地保育條例的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].start |
10260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].end |
10262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].text |
他卻配合特定委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].start |
10262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].end |
10264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].text |
要把建民登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].start |
10264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].end |
10266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].text |
放在原來本質 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].start |
10266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].end |
10268.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].text |
完全不同的三波地保育條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].start |
10268.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].end |
10270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].text |
我不是在說他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].start |
10270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].end |
10272.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].text |
違背我們原住民的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].start |
10272.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].end |
10274.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].text |
但是可能他在當下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].start |
10274.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].end |
10276.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].text |
因為管理條例太久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].start |
10276.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].end |
10278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].text |
那我們有一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].start |
10278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].end |
10280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].text |
如果三波地保育條例阻擋就通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].start |
10280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].end |
10282.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].text |
所以我們才會有這樣的一個想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].start |
10282.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].end |
10284.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].text |
所以你要趕快在行政委員會推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].start |
10284.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].end |
10288.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].text |
原住民族保留地管理條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].start |
10288.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].end |
10290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].text |
要趕快送到本院來審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].start |
10290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].end |
10292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].text |
送到本院的內政委員來審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].start |
10292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].end |
10294.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].text |
我今天我在經濟委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].start |
10294.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].end |
10296.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].text |
我特別來跟你們告這個狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].start |
10296.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].end |
10298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].text |
不是告處長的狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].start |
10298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].end |
10300.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].text |
因為處長他人在屋檐下不得不低頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].start |
10300.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].end |
10302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].start |
10302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].end |
10304.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].text |
所以委員在那邊要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].start |
10304.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].end |
10306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].text |
他配合的把這些條文法規生出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].start |
10306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].end |
10308.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].text |
這是不對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].start |
10308.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].end |
10310.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].text |
所以我希望原住民委員會加油好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].start |
10310.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].end |
10312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].text |
不要再被人家說成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].start |
10312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].end |
10314.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].text |
三包跟漢包好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].start |
10314.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].end |
10316.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].text |
不要再有3D原住民跟平地委員自稱好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].start |
10316.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].end |
10318.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].text |
我是修憲委員會的召集委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].start |
10318.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].end |
10320.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].text |
我會來排 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].start |
10320.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].end |
10322.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].text |
我們這個修憲委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].start |
10322.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].end |
10324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].text |
有很多議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].start |
10324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].end |
10326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].text |
許委員很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].start |
10326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].end |
10328.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].text |
昨天有公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].start |
10328.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].end |
10330.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].text |
我們未來我們努力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].start |
10330.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].end |
10332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].text |
不只讓原住民的證明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].start |
10332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].end |
10334.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].text |
能夠徹底完全成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].start |
10334.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].end |
10336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].text |
也讓原住民族相關在台灣應有的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].start |
10336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].end |
10338.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].text |
都得到國會立法的完整保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].start |
10338.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].end |
10340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].start |
10340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].end |
10342.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].start |
10370.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].end |
10372.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].text |
主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].start |
10372.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].end |
10374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].text |
之前就在關心說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].start |
10374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].end |
10376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].text |
有一個第四條的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].start |
10376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].end |
10378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].text |
就是原住民生親想要收養非原住民子女 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].start |
10378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].end |
10380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].text |
變為孩子取得原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].start |
10380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].end |
10382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].text |
一定要滿40歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].start |
10382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].end |
10384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].text |
這個部分我想說上次有討論過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].start |
10384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].end |
10386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].text |
那我現在想知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].start |
10386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].end |
10388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].text |
我們委員會的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].start |
10388.04 |
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因為現在常常會到 |
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實際上的案例就是說 |
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10392.04 |
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你結婚20幾歲結婚 |
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10394.04 |
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結果到30歲還沒有生孩子的時候 |
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10396.04 |
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10398.04 |
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你當然會想說可能想要領養小孩 |
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10398.04 |
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10400.04 |
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不過現在要40歲以上 |
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10400.04 |
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10402.04 |
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我是覺得實在是強人所難 |
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10402.04 |
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10404.04 |
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而且大家也都知道說 |
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10404.04 |
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10406.04 |
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不孕症大概是結婚3年以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].start |
10406.04 |
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10408.04 |
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就可以領養小孩 |
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10408.04 |
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10410.04 |
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不過現在這個規定是希望說 |
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10410.04 |
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原本可以針對這個40歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].start |
10412.04 |
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10414.04 |
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這樣的一個數字能夠做檢討 |
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10416.04 |
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10418.04 |
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各位報告 |
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10418.04 |
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10420.04 |
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當然你提那個說 |
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10420.04 |
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10422.04 |
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3年未能自然受孕這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].start |
10422.04 |
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10424.04 |
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我們是有些保留 |
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10424.04 |
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10426.04 |
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因為結婚以後有沒有 |
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10426.04 |
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10428.04 |
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我們都是感情什麼我們不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].start |
10428.04 |
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10430.04 |
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但是經過醫療機構診斷為不應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].start |
10430.04 |
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10432.04 |
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這個導致可以去 |
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10432.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].end |
10434.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].text |
去朝這個方向去立法 |
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10434.04 |
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10436.04 |
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好現在我們這次的修法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].start |
10436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].end |
10438.04 |
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我想說是不是有討論到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].start |
10438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].end |
10440.04 |
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我們恆春半島有一群排灣族 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].start |
10440.04 |
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10442.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].text |
沒有原住民的身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].start |
10442.04 |
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10444.04 |
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因為他們不想變成平埔原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].start |
10444.04 |
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10446.04 |
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他們確實是排灣族 |
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10446.04 |
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10448.04 |
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就是設定公園上面那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].start |
10448.04 |
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10450.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].text |
我們叫Guard的部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].start |
10450.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].end |
10452.04 |
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他們一直想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].start |
10452.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].end |
10454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].text |
變成排灣族可是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].start |
10454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].end |
10456.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].text |
立法無懼這個部分這次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].start |
10456.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].end |
10458.04 |
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修法裡面有沒有包含到他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].start |
10458.04 |
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10460.04 |
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因為現在平埔族群身份法 |
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10460.04 |
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10462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].text |
已經立法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].start |
10462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].end |
10464.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].text |
如果按照現行所有的規定他們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].start |
10464.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].end |
10466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].text |
要透過這個身份法來變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].start |
10466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].end |
10468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].text |
來轉換成原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].start |
10468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].end |
10470.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].text |
那如果說他要回到原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].start |
10470.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].end |
10472.04 |
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身份法其實在法條上可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].start |
10472.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].end |
10474.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].text |
沒有辦法支持因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].start |
10474.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].end |
10476.04 |
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他會混淆了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].start |
10476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].end |
10478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].text |
如果我們修了身份法以後會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].start |
10478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].end |
10480.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].text |
造成平埔族群身份法跟身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].start |
10480.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].end |
10482.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].text |
之間是混淆的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].start |
10482.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].end |
10484.04 |
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所以在適用上會有很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].start |
10484.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].end |
10486.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].text |
這個漢格 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].start |
10486.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].end |
10488.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].text |
第二個問題就是我們講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].start |
10488.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].end |
10490.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].text |
民族議會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].start |
10490.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].end |
10492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].text |
我看到你們的回應是說法治 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].start |
10492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].end |
10494.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].text |
尚未完備我想說是不是應該盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].start |
10494.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].end |
10496.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].text |
民族議會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].start |
10496.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].end |
10498.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].text |
或是類似的組織的運作現況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].start |
10498.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].end |
10500.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].text |
提出分族諮商及法治化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].start |
10500.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].end |
10502.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].text |
的一個期程而不是一直在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].start |
10502.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].end |
10504.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].text |
看等待他們到底什麼時候可以完備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].start |
10504.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].end |
10506.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].text |
現在民族議會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].start |
10506.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].end |
10508.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].text |
事實上有幾個族群有成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].start |
10508.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].end |
10510.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].text |
他們也在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].start |
10510.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].end |
10512.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].text |
事實上我們也在收集他們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].start |
10512.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].end |
10514.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].text |
這個過程裡面的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].start |
10514.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].end |
10516.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].text |
經驗甚至他們處理的事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].start |
10516.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].end |
10518.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].text |
會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].start |
10518.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].end |
10520.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].text |
可以協助我們在未來我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].start |
10520.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].end |
10522.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].text |
在民族議會要立法的話有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].start |
10522.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].end |
10524.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].text |
參考依據他的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].start |
10524.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].end |
10526.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].text |
他的內容他的權責是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].start |
10526.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].end |
10528.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].text |
我想都是很好的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].start |
10528.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].end |
10530.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].text |
經驗的接近所以我在看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].start |
10530.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].end |
10532.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].text |
目前特別好的就是盧凱跟排灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].start |
10532.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].end |
10534.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].text |
那如果他們做得特別好的話是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].start |
10534.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].end |
10536.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].text |
可以做其他主委的一個參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].start |
10536.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].end |
10538.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].text |
的確 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].start |
10538.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].end |
10540.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].text |
像那個務台的盧凱 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].start |
10540.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].end |
10542.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].text |
族群議會就非常的完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].start |
10542.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].end |
10544.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].text |
那文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].start |
10544.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].end |
10546.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].text |
另外一個問題說文化產業就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].start |
10546.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].end |
10548.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].text |
法律上可以申請租稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].start |
10548.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].end |
10550.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].text |
的減免可是不代表實際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].start |
10550.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].end |
10552.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].text |
民族民族的這些產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].start |
10552.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].end |
10554.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].text |
實際上可以申請的到所以是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].start |
10554.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].end |
10556.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].text |
原文會應該會跟文化部財政部提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].start |
10556.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].end |
10558.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].text |
申請的建樹合組 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].start |
10558.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].end |
10560.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].text |
入宮主要的站外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].start |
10560.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].end |
10562.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].text |
是這個單一的一個輔導的窗口 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].start |
10562.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].end |
10564.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].text |
這原先建設我們是在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].start |
10564.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].end |
10566.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].text |
百億的基金如果不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].start |
10566.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].end |
10568.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].text |
基金的話是不是原文會應該提出同等功能的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].start |
10568.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].end |
10570.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].text |
一個替代方案把各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].start |
10570.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].end |
10572.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].text |
分散在交通水利通訊環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].start |
10572.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].end |
10574.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].text |
公共設施這些計畫整合起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].start |
10574.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].end |
10576.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].text |
然後建立跨年度的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].start |
10576.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].end |
10578.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].text |
清澈裁員跟追蹤的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].start |
10578.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].end |
10580.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].text |
然後就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].start |
10580.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].end |
10582.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].text |
用那個不能接受基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].start |
10582.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].end |
10584.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].text |
這兩個字的這個來否定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].start |
10584.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].end |
10586.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].text |
我們目前想要做的這個規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].start |
10588.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].end |
10590.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].text |
委員提的這些草案我們都尊重但是裡面有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].start |
10590.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].end |
10592.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].text |
可能涉及到其他部會還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].start |
10592.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].end |
10594.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].text |
裁員的部分事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].start |
10594.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].end |
10596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].text |
部會裡面不能夠直接的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].start |
10596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].end |
10598.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].text |
認為他是可行或不可行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].start |
10598.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].end |
10600.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].text |
那另外也有這個我們的財政 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].start |
10600.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].end |
10602.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].text |
收支發揮法或者是我們的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].start |
10602.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].end |
10604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].text |
財政的條例相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].start |
10604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].end |
10606.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].text |
你要在法律裡面明定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].start |
10606.04 |
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10608.04 |
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你的金額 |
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10608.04 |
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10610.04 |
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你必須要有來源 |
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10610.04 |
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10612.04 |
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我想這些都是相關的目的事業主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].start |
10612.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].end |
10614.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].text |
機關的法規我們尊重 |
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10614.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].end |
10616.04 |
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但是待會協調看看他們的意見怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].start |
10616.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].end |
10618.04 |
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好在最後就是講到那個 |
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10618.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].end |
10620.04 |
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原住民的諮商的同意權 |
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10620.04 |
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10622.04 |
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的部分因為我們 |
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10622.04 |
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10624.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].text |
的最高法院 |
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10624.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].end |
10626.04 |
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487號判決就指出說原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].start |
10626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].end |
10628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].text |
傳統旅遊跟不限公有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].start |
10628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].end |
10630.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].text |
跟私有嘛 |
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10630.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].end |
10632.04 |
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那我想說目前常常聽到就是 |
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10632.04 |
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10634.04 |
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宜蘭或是哪裡要開發地熱 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].start |
10634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].end |
10636.04 |
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或者是採礦 |
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10636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].end |
10638.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].text |
然後常常引起一些紛爭甚至上次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].start |
10638.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].end |
10640.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].text |
還產生一個罷免村長的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].start |
10640.04 |
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10642.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].text |
動作我是覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].start |
10642.04 |
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10644.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].text |
準備何時提出是土地開發 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].start |
10644.04 |
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10646.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].text |
希望能夠分級標準跟具體判斷 |
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10646.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].end |
10648.04 |
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那個指標什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].start |
10648.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].end |
10650.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].text |
來檢討原住民土地跟不合範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].start |
10650.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].end |
10652.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].text |
土地化釋的辦法相關的行政規章 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].start |
10652.04 |
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10654.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].text |
在新的制度完成以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].start |
10654.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].end |
10656.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].text |
如果地方政府其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].start |
10656.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].end |
10658.04 |
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不會收到私有土地上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].start |
10658.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].end |
10660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].text |
重大開發申請我們要依據什麼樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].start |
10660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].end |
10662.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].text |
標準判斷是否涉及 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].start |
10662.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].end |
10664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].text |
傳統旅遊哪些部落是屬於關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].start |
10664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].end |
10666.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].text |
部落然後啟動何種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].start |
10666.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].end |
10668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].text |
諮商的程序我是想說應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].start |
10668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].end |
10670.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].text |
有一個三個層級的研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].start |
10670.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].end |
10672.04 |
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那我想說採礦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].start |
10672.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].end |
10674.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].text |
廢棄處理能源設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].start |
10674.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].end |
10676.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].text |
大規模土地開發重大土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].start |
10676.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].end |
10678.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].text |
的一些高影響的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].start |
10678.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].end |
10680.04 |
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是不是應該就要進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].start |
10680.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].end |
10682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].text |
完整的諮商跟部落同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].start |
10682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].end |
10684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].text |
若是可能只是可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].start |
10684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].end |
10686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].text |
影響部落文化環境傳統利用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].start |
10686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].end |
10688.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].text |
跟生計的一些周度影響案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].start |
10688.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].end |
10690.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].text |
是不是就完成資訊公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].start |
10690.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].end |
10692.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].text |
實質諮商參與決策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].start |
10692.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].end |
10694.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].text |
跟利益分享這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].start |
10694.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].end |
10696.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].text |
動作就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].start |
10696.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].end |
10698.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].text |
一般作載的修上小規模 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].start |
10698.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].end |
10700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].text |
的農作或是對部落影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].start |
10700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].end |
10702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].text |
輕易的日常使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].start |
10702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].end |
10704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].text |
我們就簡化到的程序跟合理排除 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].start |
10704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].end |
10706.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].text |
我想說明年會是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].start |
10706.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].end |
10708.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].text |
應該去做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].start |
10708.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].end |
10710.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].text |
類似像讓對方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].start |
10710.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].end |
10712.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].text |
經濟部環境部能源部這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].start |
10712.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].end |
10714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].text |
機關有所依循 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].start |
10714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].end |
10716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].text |
而不是說讓各個機關做各自的解讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].start |
10716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].end |
10718.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].text |
同樣的案件出現不同的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].start |
10718.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].end |
10720.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].text |
然後再又通過花很多的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].start |
10720.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].end |
10722.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].text |
一次一次的走進法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].start |
10722.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].end |
10724.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].text |
才能夠爭取本來就應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].start |
10724.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].end |
10726.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].text |
收到保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].start |
10726.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].end |
10728.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].text |
謝謝委員的提點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].start |
10728.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].end |
10730.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].text |
那剛委員提的這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].start |
10730.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].end |
10732.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].text |
我想有一個諮商同意的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].start |
10732.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].end |
10734.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].text |
事實上這個辦法我們也在研修中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].start |
10734.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].end |
10736.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].text |
那也在最後的階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].start |
10736.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].end |
10738.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].text |
馬上就會做對外的公布 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].start |
10738.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].end |
10740.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].text |
那另外有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].start |
10740.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].end |
10742.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].text |
這個土地公司有涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].start |
10742.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].end |
10744.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].text |
可能是法律未接的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].start |
10744.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].end |
10746.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].text |
我想我們尊重大院的審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].start |
10746.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].end |
10748.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].text |
但這裡面也會跟憲法有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].start |
10748.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].end |
10750.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].text |
保障人民財產權的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].start |
10750.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].end |
10752.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].text |
另外相關民法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].start |
10752.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].end |
10754.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].text |
可能都有需要討論的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].start |
10754.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].end |
10756.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].text |
那我們也尊重業務主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].start |
10756.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].end |
10758.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].text |
喜歡他們的意見以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].start |
10758.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].end |
10760.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].text |
那還是希望我們的部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].start |
10760.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].end |
10762.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].text |
諮商同意能夠做分級的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].start |
10762.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].end |
10764.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].text |
早點進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].start |
10764.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].end |
10766.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].text |
那請副座委請回請我們馬洛斯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].start |
10774.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].end |
10776.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].text |
馬上來委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].start |
10776.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].end |
10778.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].text |
就是針對防災安全通訊延宕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].start |
10778.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].end |
10780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].text |
六年半更合約的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].start |
10780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].end |
10782.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].text |
是不是這個部分你有了解嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].start |
10782.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].end |
10784.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].start |
10784.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].end |
10786.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].text |
那我要稍微跟委員補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].start |
10786.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].end |
10788.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].text |
就是說其實我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].start |
10788.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].end |
10790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].text |
原本規劃的37站 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].start |
10790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].end |
10792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].text |
其實已經完成了32站 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].start |
10792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].end |
10794.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].text |
那執行率是86% |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].start |
10794.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].end |
10796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].text |
所以在收聽的覆蓋率 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].start |
10796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].end |
10798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].text |
其實是沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].start |
10798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].end |
10800.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].text |
那現在就是我們目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].start |
10800.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].end |
10802.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].text |
今天所要報告的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].start |
10802.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].end |
10804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].text |
有關於訊號源的補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].start |
10804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].end |
10806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].text |
所以在收聽的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].start |
10806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].end |
10808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].text |
應該是如期 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].start |
10808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].end |
10810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].text |
逐漸在完成當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].start |
10810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].end |
10812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].text |
想說這邊有寫說完成率 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].start |
10812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].end |
10814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].text |
就是15%就是東河 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].start |
10814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].end |
10816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].text |
海端跟山湧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].start |
10816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].end |
10818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].text |
那我想說這個原委會跟原委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].start |
10818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].end |
10820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].text |
原委會在長達六年半中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].start |
10820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].end |
10822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].text |
履約的差和跟廣告的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].start |
10822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].end |
10824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].text |
預警制度是不是有很大的缺失呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].start |
10824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].end |
10828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].text |
我們也跟主管機關有做回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].start |
10828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].end |
10830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].text |
那特別是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].start |
10830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].end |
10832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].text |
這個廠商他一直不履約 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].start |
10832.04 |
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10834.04 |
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那另外就是說 |
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10834.04 |
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還延宕很多的行政作業 |
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10838.04 |
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那我們也對這個廠商 |
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10838.04 |
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10840.04 |
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即將去宣告他的 |
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10840.04 |
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不良廠商的資料 |
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所以在這個部分我們會再加強進度 |
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那就是四元月的預算 |
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四元月的預算就是說可能 |
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10848.04 |
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10850.04 |
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在科目的流用跟財政紀律 |
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10850.04 |
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10852.04 |
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跟司法性的爭議 |
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10852.04 |
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10854.04 |
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這邊看到是不是真正跟主委相關的是 |
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只有10.7% |
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10856.04 |
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10858.04 |
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那流用的部分 |
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10858.04 |
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10860.04 |
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比如說像活動策劃 |
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10860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].end |
10862.04 |
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硬體這些國際交流跟接待 |
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10862.04 |
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甚至是高達了89.26% |
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10864.04 |
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10866.04 |
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我是覺得說 |
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10866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].end |
10868.04 |
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我們這個部分是不是應該 |
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10868.04 |
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10870.04 |
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要提出一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].start |
10870.04 |
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10872.04 |
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合理性跟司法性的專案調查 |
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10872.04 |
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10874.04 |
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然後讓他 |
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10874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].end |
10876.04 |
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我們應該要回歸到正常 |
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10876.04 |
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10878.04 |
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不是應該流用 |
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10878.04 |
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10880.04 |
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應該用在語言發展的呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].start |
10880.04 |
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10882.04 |
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卻變成要用來做這些 |
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10882.04 |
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10884.04 |
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大型上市這個硬體 |
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10884.04 |
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10886.04 |
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跟接待費用是不是 |
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10886.04 |
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10888.04 |
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這個部分是不是有跟主管機關 |
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10888.04 |
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10890.04 |
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做過溝通 |
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10890.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].end |
10892.04 |
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報告委員這個部分 |
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10892.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].end |
10894.04 |
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我們會精益求精再去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].start |
10894.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].end |
10896.04 |
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做相關執行上的調整 |
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10896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].end |
10898.04 |
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那要跟委員報告的是 |
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10898.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].end |
10900.04 |
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就是國語方案 |
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10900.04 |
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10902.04 |
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他很大的一個部分是 |
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10902.04 |
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10904.04 |
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對主語的行銷啦 |
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10904.04 |
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10906.04 |
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所以除了電視的 |
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10906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].end |
10908.04 |
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自播產製時數之外 |
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10908.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].end |
10910.04 |
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還包括怎麼樣行銷主語 |
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10910.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].end |
10912.04 |
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所以在這一塊我們 |
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10912.04 |
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10914.04 |
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也很重視那特別國語方案 |
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10914.04 |
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10916.04 |
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他強調的是用新的策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].start |
10916.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].end |
10918.04 |
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去推動主語的 |
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10918.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].end |
10920.04 |
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推廣所以在這一塊我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].start |
10920.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].end |
10922.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].text |
會精益求精謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].start |
10922.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].end |
10924.04 |
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就是常常看到就是臉書上 |
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10924.04 |
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10926.04 |
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報應的大部分就是參賽的選手 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].start |
10926.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].end |
10928.04 |
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他們沒有得到 |
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10928.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].end |
10930.04 |
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相當的比如說比賽獎金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].start |
10930.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].end |
10932.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].text |
或是相當的一個類似像 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].start |
10932.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].end |
10934.04 |
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尊重啊我是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].start |
10934.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].end |
10936.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].text |
正在辦比賽最重要的是選手 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].start |
10936.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].end |
10938.04 |
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不是嗎所以我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].start |
10938.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].end |
10940.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].text |
看到很多就是在支付實體經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].start |
10940.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].end |
10942.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].text |
舞台工程無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].start |
10942.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].end |
10944.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].text |
這些國際課票 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].start |
10944.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].end |
10946.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].text |
這樣的一個費用那我是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].start |
10946.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].end |
10948.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].text |
應該是先滿足我們比賽選手 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].start |
10948.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].end |
10950.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].text |
的安全跟他們實際的生活 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].start |
10950.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].end |
10952.04 |
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的補貼或者是說比賽獎金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].start |
10952.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].end |
10954.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].text |
這個部分我是覺得應該先重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].start |
10954.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].end |
10956.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].text |
然後才有這些後面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].start |
10956.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].end |
10958.04 |
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好第三個就是這次你很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].start |
10958.04 |
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10960.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].text |
去了八丹島我們也曾經在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].start |
10960.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].end |
10962.04 |
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實體下有過聊過這些 |
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10962.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].end |
10964.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].text |
你的偉大的一些 |
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10964.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].end |
10966.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].text |
計畫不過卻很遺憾的是 |
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10966.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].end |
10968.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].text |
用比如說大量 |
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10968.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].end |
10970.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].text |
淨水並充實的一個驚險的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].start |
10970.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].end |
10972.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].text |
情況這3850萬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].start |
10972.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].end |
10974.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].text |
一個運算海陸計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].start |
10974.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].end |
10976.04 |
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是不是就這樣子你覺得是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].start |
10976.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].end |
10978.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].text |
付諸流水還是就像你們原本會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].start |
10978.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].end |
10980.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].text |
會的所呈現的好幾千個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].start |
10980.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].end |
10982.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].text |
這樣的一個得到的一個讚美 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].start |
10982.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].end |
10984.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].text |
你怎麼做取捨 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].start |
10984.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].end |
10986.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].text |
是謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].start |
10986.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].end |
10988.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].text |
的詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].start |
10988.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].end |
10990.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].text |
我們的這個航海計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].start |
10990.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].end |
10992.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].text |
有一個部分很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].start |
10992.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].end |
10994.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].text |
預算分佈是在灶州的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].start |
10994.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].end |
10996.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].text |
那我們採購的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].start |
10996.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].end |
10998.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].text |
島上族人各個家族 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].start |
10998.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].end |
11000.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].text |
的樹木不是從台灣 |
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11000.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].end |
11002.04 |
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買的所以我們讓 |
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11002.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].end |
11004.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].text |
整個利用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].start |
11004.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].end |
11006.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].text |
文化的利用 |
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11006.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].end |
11008.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].text |
財產的利用回到部落 |
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11008.04 |
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11010.04 |
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另外就是我們划船的選手 |
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11010.04 |
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11012.04 |
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那也從六個部落去挑選 |
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11012.04 |
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11014.04 |
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然後去支付他的 |
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11014.04 |
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11016.04 |
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划船的費用所以在 |
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11016.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].end |
11018.04 |
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整體預算上我們覺得 |
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11018.04 |
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11020.04 |
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還算是合理 |
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11020.04 |
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11022.04 |
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而且是達到他的效果 |
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11022.04 |
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11024.04 |
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我是覺得這次應該要檢討的就是 |
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11024.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].end |
11026.04 |
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你們可能沒有去真正的去跟 |
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11026.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].end |
11028.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].text |
我們海洋委員會 |
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11028.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].end |
11030.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].text |
交通部航管局做一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].start |
11030.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].end |
11032.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].text |
我們航行安全的管理 |
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11032.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].end |
11034.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].text |
跟跨部會的一個應變的 |
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11034.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].end |
11036.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].text |
機制指引啦那我想說以後 |
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11036.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].end |
11038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].text |
如果你們要再做這些的話是不是應該再 |
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11038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].end |
11040.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].text |
更嚴謹一點不要到最後明明是 |
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11040.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].end |
11042.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].text |
一個很好的文化的交流 |
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11042.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].end |
11044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].text |
然後到最後是以這樣的一個所謂的 |
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11044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].end |
11046.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].text |
不是那麼好看的一個據點 |
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11046.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].end |
11048.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].text |
讓國務委會覺得說你們這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].start |
11048.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].end |
11050.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].text |
一個努力是不是就有點 |
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11050.04 |
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11052.04 |
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白費這樣 |
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11052.04 |
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11054.04 |
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就像委員提到的就是說 |
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11054.04 |
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11056.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].text |
氣候的掌握可能在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].start |
11056.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].end |
11058.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].text |
未來執行這一類的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].start |
11058.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].end |
11060.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].text |
的時候要更強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].start |
11060.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].end |
11062.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].text |
那也凸顯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].start |
11062.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].end |
11064.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].text |
其實世界的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].start |
11064.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].end |
11066.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].text |
氣候的暖化跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].start |
11066.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].end |
11068.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].text |
驟變非常的強烈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].start |
11068.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].end |
11070.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].text |
那以前我們的航海我們的祖先 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].start |
11070.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].end |
11072.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].text |
祖父級可能他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].start |
11072.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].end |
11074.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].text |
周期性的航海 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].start |
11074.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].end |
11076.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].text |
不會遇到大強烈的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].start |
11076.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].end |
11078.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].text |
西南風浪但其實這幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].start |
11078.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].end |
11080.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].text |
的全球性的氣候確實有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].start |
11080.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].end |
11082.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].text |
影響在這一塊我們會再做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].start |
11082.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].end |
11084.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].text |
今天報告我覺得應該要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].start |
11084.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].end |
11086.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].text |
第一個就是說我們實際想要看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].start |
11086.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].end |
11088.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].text |
你們的文化的交流的一個亮點在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].start |
11088.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].end |
11090.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].text |
然後現在的一個文化的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].start |
11090.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].end |
11092.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].text |
相同跟差異還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].start |
11092.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].end |
11094.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].text |
理論的一個相同跟差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].start |
11094.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].end |
11096.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].text |
我覺得應該也要呈現出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].start |
11096.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].end |
11098.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].text |
才要知道說你們這次一個委員會真正的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].start |
11098.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].end |
11100.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].text |
目的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].start |
11100.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].end |
11102.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].text |
可以讓全世界的我們原住民都看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].start |
11102.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].end |
11104.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].text |
好不好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].start |
11104.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].end |
11106.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].start |
11112.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].end |
11114.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].text |
下一位請林憲奇委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].start |
11122.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].end |
11124.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].text |
好謝謝我們的主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].start |
11124.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].end |
11126.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].text |
張偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].start |
11126.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].end |
11128.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].text |
好我先請我們原文會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].start |
11128.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].end |
11130.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].start |
11130.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].end |
11132.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].text |
原文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].start |
11132.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].end |
11134.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].text |
基金會的這個董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].start |
11134.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].end |
11136.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].text |
馬拉魯斯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].start |
11140.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].end |
11142.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].start |
11142.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].end |
11144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].text |
你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].start |
11144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].end |
11146.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].text |
董事長你好那個今天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].start |
11146.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].end |
11148.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].text |
這個裡面有關於這個航海文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].start |
11148.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].end |
11150.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].text |
最主要是就原文會這邊來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].start |
11150.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].end |
11152.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].text |
執行嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].start |
11152.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].end |
11154.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].text |
這一次整個經費的主體 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].start |
11154.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].end |
11156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].text |
是我們蘭嶼的這個拼版舟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].start |
11156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].end |
11158.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].text |
航行到巴丹島 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].start |
11158.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].end |
11160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].text |
那包括造舟包括人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].start |
11160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].end |
11162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].text |
那包括這個水手 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].start |
11162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].end |
11164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].text |
包括整個航行喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].start |
11164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].end |
11166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].text |
那麼我想跟您請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].start |
11166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].end |
11168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].text |
這邊內容大概也提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].start |
11168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].end |
11170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].text |
你們幾個成果喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].start |
11170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].end |
11172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].text |
我想這個成果的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].start |
11172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].end |
11174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].text |
您剛才也有提到其實在蘭嶼的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].start |
11174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].end |
11176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].text |
我們很多長者還有包括所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].start |
11176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].end |
11178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].text |
水手大家對這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].start |
11178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].end |
11180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].text |
都非常的投入喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].start |
11180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].end |
11182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].text |
但是因為一些外部的因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].start |
11182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].end |
11184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].text |
可能整體的結果不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].start |
11184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].end |
11186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].text |
這麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].start |
11186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].end |
11188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].text |
如同預期啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].start |
11188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].end |
11190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].text |
但是本席就覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].start |
11190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].end |
11192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].text |
想要請教你一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].start |
11192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].end |
11194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].text |
那你覺得這一次的這個計畫算成功嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].start |
11194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].end |
11196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].text |
我覺得應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].start |
11196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].end |
11198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].text |
應該從原住民的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].start |
11198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].end |
11200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].text |
應該是要把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].start |
11200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].end |
11202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].text |
列為成功的一個交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].start |
11202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].end |
11204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].text |
因為我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].start |
11204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].end |
11206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].text |
那您可以講一下成功的要素嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].start |
11206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].end |
11208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].text |
就是我們跟巴丹島 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].start |
11208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].end |
11210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].text |
有了這個影像的這個紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].start |
11210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].end |
11212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].text |
好像你們覺得是第一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].start |
11212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].end |
11214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].text |
那本席這樣問好了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].start |
11214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].end |
11216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].text |
那請問你覺得這個航行喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].start |
11216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].end |
11218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].text |
您對於整個航行裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].start |
11218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].end |
11220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].text |
我們真正實踐原住民族航行的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].start |
11220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].end |
11222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].text |
航段 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].start |
11222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].end |
11224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].text |
大概佔了航段的百分之幾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].start |
11224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].end |
11226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].start |
11226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].end |
11228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].text |
航行的成功率大概有多長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].start |
11228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].end |
11230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].text |
第一個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].start |
11230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].end |
11232.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].text |
如果焦點回到這邊的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].start |
11232.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].end |
11234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].text |
就是在造出一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].start |
11234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].end |
11236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].text |
已經失傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].start |
11236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].end |
11238.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].text |
三百年的二十人中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].start |
11238.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].end |
11240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].text |
這個工法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].start |
11240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].end |
11242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].text |
它的意義非常的大 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].start |
11242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].end |
11244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].text |
所以我們就是航行把它拖行到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].start |
11244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].end |
11246.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].text |
這個巴丹 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].start |
11246.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].end |
11248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].text |
然後現在放在巴丹島上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].start |
11248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].end |
11250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].text |
那請問放在巴丹島上的哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].start |
11250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].end |
11252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].text |
我們會放在巴丹的博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].start |
11252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].end |
11254.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].text |
我們會放在巴丹島上的博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].start |
11254.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].end |
11256.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].text |
另外他也會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].start |
11256.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].end |
11258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].text |
馬哈道市做市民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].start |
11258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].end |
11260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].text |
直接的交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].start |
11260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].end |
11262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].text |
甚至於市華 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].start |
11262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].end |
11264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].text |
那如果是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].start |
11264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].end |
11266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].text |
本席也建議可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].start |
11266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].end |
11268.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].text |
每一年或者是三五年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].start |
11268.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].end |
11270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].text |
要去檢視一下我們這艘船 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].start |
11270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].end |
11272.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].text |
在巴丹島的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].start |
11272.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].end |
11274.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].text |
依照本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].start |
11274.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].end |
11276.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].text |
你知道本席經常在水上跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].start |
11276.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].end |
11278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].text |
所以本席剛才問你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].start |
11278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].end |
11280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].text |
那如果以航行上來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].start |
11280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].end |
11282.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].text |
我們真的海洋文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].start |
11282.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].end |
11284.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].text |
這一段航行真的如你們預期 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].start |
11284.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].end |
11286.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].text |
我們真正在海上航行成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].start |
11286.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].end |
11288.04 |
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大概有百分之幾整個路段 |
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整個航段 |
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這個計畫它 |
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這個計畫它倒不是探險 |
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因為你們是在航行 |
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我們在講航行 |
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11298.04 |
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航行要能夠成功 |
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所以真正所有的水手航行 |
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安全成功的航行 |
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11306.04 |
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大概整個航段百分之幾 |
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成功的航行 |
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11310.04 |
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我們在整個航行來說 |
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11312.04 |
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大概應該在 |
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11312.04 |
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11314.04 |
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四分之一的過程 |
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航行成功是四分之一 |
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四分之三是拖行的 |
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所以你們的第二點要說 |
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我們有成功的把船 |
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11322.04 |
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拖行到了八丹道 |
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那你如果要知道直接的內容 |
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本席這邊有掌握 |
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11328.04 |
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11330.04 |
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你們在海上的整體狀況 |
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那當然有很多 |
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介乎的船讓這一次 |
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11334.04 |
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11336.04 |
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我們在整個航行 |
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11336.04 |
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11338.04 |
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所有的水手是安全的 |
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11340.04 |
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我們真的是不幸中的大幸 |
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11340.04 |
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11342.04 |
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就像你講的如果事前你們知道 |
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整個海上還有氣候變遷 |
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11346.04 |
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這麼劇烈的情況下 |
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11346.04 |
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11348.04 |
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你們還這樣子航行其實是制 |
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11348.04 |
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11350.04 |
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太多的鄉親在危險當中 |
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11352.04 |
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那本席簡單講 |
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11352.04 |
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11354.04 |
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你剛才講四分之一 |
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11354.04 |
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11356.04 |
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本席就算給你聽了 |
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11356.04 |
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11358.04 |
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應該你們一出這個港 |
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11358.04 |
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11360.04 |
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直接航行到小蘭嶼外海 |
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11360.04 |
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大概就十海里吧 |
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十海里可能是航行成功的 |
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11366.04 |
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之後直接拖行到八丹島外 |
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11368.04 |
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一海里 |
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11370.04 |
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整個蘭嶼從八丹到 |
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11370.04 |
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11372.04 |
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從蘭嶼到八丹島 |
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11372.04 |
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11374.04 |
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總共一百海里 |
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11374.04 |
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11376.04 |
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那你就可以去算算 |
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11376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].end |
11378.04 |
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我們真正航行成功大概有 |
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11378.04 |
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11380.04 |
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好那所以大部分 |
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11382.04 |
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包括到八丹 |
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11382.04 |
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11384.04 |
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我們都是被拖行 |
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11384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].end |
11386.04 |
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那這不是水手的錯誤 |
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11386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].end |
11388.04 |
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本席對於這個計畫是非常的贊成 |
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11388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].end |
11390.04 |
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但是你們這 |
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11390.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].end |
11392.04 |
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整個計畫的不完備跟不專業 |
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11392.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].end |
11394.04 |
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讓太多人 |
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11394.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].end |
11396.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].text |
在不安全的情境下 |
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11396.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].end |
11398.04 |
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所以本席覺得這個你們要 |
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11398.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].end |
11400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].text |
深刻的檢討本席已經把 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].start |
11400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].end |
11402.04 |
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你們有航行成功的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].start |
11402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].end |
11404.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].text |
航段算給你聽了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].start |
11404.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].end |
11406.04 |
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所以你應該好好的仔細算一下 |
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11406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].end |
11408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].text |
我們真正航行成功有多少 |
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11408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].end |
11410.04 |
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好所以這個真的是 |
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11410.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].end |
11412.04 |
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非常值得要檢討的 |
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11412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].end |
11414.04 |
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不只是預算可能 |
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11414.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].end |
11416.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].text |
沒有用的很有效度 |
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11416.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].end |
11418.04 |
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最重要是你讓太多的水手 |
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11418.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].end |
11420.04 |
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在不安全的情況下 |
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11420.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].end |
11422.04 |
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那這點其實不僅要檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].start |
11422.04 |
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11424.04 |
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你們未來也要預防這樣子的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].start |
11424.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].end |
11426.04 |
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發生好所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].start |
11426.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].end |
11428.04 |
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那這個部分我想說請副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].start |
11428.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].end |
11430.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].text |
還有我們教人處 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].start |
11430.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].end |
11432.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].text |
我們共同來協助我們原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].start |
11432.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].end |
11434.04 |
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的這個航海文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].start |
11434.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].end |
11436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].text |
我們重點是要航行成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].start |
11436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].end |
11438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].text |
那不管造船或造舟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].start |
11438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].end |
11440.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].text |
的奉正 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].start |
11440.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].end |
11442.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].text |
要讓他真正實際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].start |
11442.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].end |
11444.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].text |
能夠成就 |
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11444.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].end |
11446.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].text |
所以本席在這邊要請教一下這個 |
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11446.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].end |
11448.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].text |
副主委跟我們教人還有 |
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11448.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].end |
11450.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].text |
董事長 |
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11450.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].end |
11452.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].text |
那以目前的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].start |
11452.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].end |
11454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].text |
我們是不是在各部會跟各項計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].start |
11454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].end |
11456.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].text |
裡面的這個預算 |
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11456.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].end |
11458.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].text |
能夠來支撐我們東海岸 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].start |
11458.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].end |
11460.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].text |
或者是所謂原住民 |
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11460.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].end |
11462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].text |
裡面的這個海洋民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].start |
11462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].end |
11464.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].text |
還有我們阿美族還有達悟族 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].start |
11464.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].end |
11466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].text |
等等最直接的跟太平洋 |
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11466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].end |
11468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].text |
這邊接觸的這個族群跟部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].start |
11468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].end |
11470.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].text |
的這個造船 |
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11470.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].end |
11472.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].text |
航行跟產業 |
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11472.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].end |
11474.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].text |
那這個部分是不是可以得到原民會的 |
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11474.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].end |
11476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].text |
一個承諾跟支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].start |
11476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].end |
11478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].start |
11478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].end |
11480.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].text |
像在東海岸有一些NGO團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].start |
11480.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].end |
11482.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].text |
甚至我們知道現在有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].start |
11482.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].end |
11484.04 |
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所以你們有支持嗎 |
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11484.04 |
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11486.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].text |
那第二個部分 |
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11486.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].end |
11488.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].text |
剛才你們其實談到了兩個案例 |
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11488.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].end |
11490.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].text |
包括那個先前 |
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11490.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].end |
11492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].text |
從柏羅來的船還有未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].start |
11494.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].end |
11496.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].text |
目前停在紐西蘭的那一艘 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].start |
11496.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].end |
11498.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].text |
夏威夷船 |
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11498.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].end |
11500.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].text |
未來他們可能要來台灣 |
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11500.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].end |
11502.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].text |
他們來了台灣除了我們看各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].start |
11502.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].end |
11504.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].text |
這些來台灣成功航行到台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].start |
11504.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].end |
11506.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].text |
成功航行喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].start |
11506.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].end |
11508.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].text |
到台灣的船作為各部會的績效以外 |
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那這整體的計畫 |
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究竟對台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].start |
11512.04 |
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11514.04 |
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航海文化的效益 |
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11514.04 |
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11516.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].text |
跟實際的成就 |
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11516.04 |
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11518.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].text |
到底在哪裡我希望原民會這個部分 |
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| transcript.whisperx[5201].end |
11520.04 |
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能夠做一些主導 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].start |
11520.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].end |
11522.04 |
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那如果你們還有相關的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].start |
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11524.04 |
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本席在會後可以提供給你們 |
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11524.04 |
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11526.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].text |
這兩艘船來這邊各部會各行其道 |
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11528.04 |
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但最重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].start |
11528.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].end |
11530.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].text |
拋了很多宣傳部會成果的片子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].start |
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11534.04 |
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但是這個真的是把台灣的航海文化 |
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11536.04 |
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做起來了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].start |
11536.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].end |
11538.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].text |
好所以這裡是本席要強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].start |
11538.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].end |
11540.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].text |
整個南島文化的這個外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].start |
11540.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].end |
11542.04 |
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很重要的是原住民族的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].start |
11542.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].end |
11544.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].text |
航行的水手也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].start |
11544.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].end |
11546.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].text |
青年人也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].start |
11546.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].end |
11548.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].text |
所以我們要學習怎麼造船造舟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].start |
11548.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].end |
11550.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].text |
第二個部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].start |
11550.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].end |
11552.04 |
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我相信從祖先一直傳承下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].start |
11552.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].end |
11554.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].text |
目前失去但是你們還沒有找回來的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].start |
11554.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].end |
11556.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].text |
辨識整個天文水象的知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].start |
11558.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].end |
11560.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].text |
那我相信傳統的知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].start |
11560.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].end |
11562.04 |
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是可用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].start |
11562.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].end |
11564.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].text |
氣候變遷也是每段時期都在變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].start |
11564.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].end |
11566.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].text |
但是你們沒有掌握這些東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].start |
11566.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].end |
11568.04 |
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就讓大家在險境當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].start |
11568.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].end |
11570.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].text |
這點不僅要檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].start |
11570.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].end |
11572.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].text |
也希望你們未來應該要擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].start |
11572.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].end |
11574.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].text |
對於原住民族航海文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].start |
11574.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].end |
11576.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].text |
的一個知識性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].start |
11576.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].end |
11578.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].text |
那要讓更多人來參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].start |
11578.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].end |
11580.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].text |
那你們這樣一個專案似乎在一開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].start |
11580.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].end |
11582.04 |
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就太狹隘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].start |
11582.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].end |
11584.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].text |
好所以本席這邊要來談一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].start |
11584.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].end |
11586.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].text |
你們經常跟海委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].start |
11586.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].end |
11588.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].text |
海委會經理也有代表來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].start |
11588.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].end |
11590.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].text |
但是可能不是主要的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].start |
11590.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].end |
11592.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].text |
海委會的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].start |
11592.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].end |
11594.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].text |
也請您上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].start |
11594.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].end |
11596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].text |
我想讓海委會跟原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].start |
11596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].end |
11598.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].text |
你們在所有的這樣一個計畫的合作當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].start |
11598.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].end |
11600.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].text |
應該更緊密 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].start |
11600.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].end |
11602.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].start |
11602.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].end |
11604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].text |
不管是先前的帛琉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].start |
11604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].end |
11606.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].text |
跟之後的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].start |
11606.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].end |
11608.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].text |
所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].start |
11608.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].end |
11610.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].text |
夏威夷的船要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].start |
11610.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].end |
11612.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].text |
我們都希望這一點能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].start |
11612.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].end |
11614.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].text |
借重他們航行成功的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].start |
11614.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].end |
11616.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].text |
航海知識真的來教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].start |
11616.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].end |
11618.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].text |
我們台灣的失去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].start |
11618.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].end |
11620.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].text |
航海文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].start |
11620.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].end |
11622.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].text |
給有興趣的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].start |
11622.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].end |
11624.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].text |
那包括原住民常常海委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].start |
11624.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].end |
11626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].text |
你們在這些計畫當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].start |
11626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].end |
11628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].text |
原住民都被你們排除在外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].start |
11628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].end |
11630.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].text |
或不知道你們在透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].start |
11630.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].end |
11632.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].text |
這些船來到這邊計畫的實踐的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].start |
11632.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].end |
11634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].text |
一些相關的子計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].start |
11634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].end |
11636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].text |
本席希望你們在未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].start |
11636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].end |
11638.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].text |
這兩艘這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].start |
11638.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].end |
11640.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].text |
一直來台灣的船拿了政府的經費的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].start |
11640.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].end |
11642.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].text |
同時也應該真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].start |
11642.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].end |
11644.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].text |
實踐台灣航海 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].start |
11644.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].end |
11646.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].text |
文化人才的一個培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].start |
11646.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].end |
11648.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].text |
這點希望兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].start |
11648.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].end |
11650.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].text |
派會是不是可以緊密的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].start |
11650.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].end |
11652.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].text |
尤其原民會你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].start |
11652.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].end |
11654.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].text |
應該要拿到航海文化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].start |
11654.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].end |
11656.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].text |
話語權跟主導權 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].start |
11656.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].end |
11658.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].text |
好那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].start |
11658.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].end |
11660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].text |
接下來本席有很實際的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].start |
11660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].end |
11662.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].start |
11662.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].end |
11664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].text |
原民會包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].start |
11664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].end |
11666.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].text |
這個原文會你們是不是應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].start |
11666.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].end |
11668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].text |
要專任輔導東海岸的各鄉鎮 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].start |
11668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].end |
11670.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].text |
跟各部落的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].start |
11670.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].end |
11672.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].text |
造船文化而且要啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].start |
11672.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].end |
11674.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].text |
實際的航行計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].start |
11674.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].end |
11676.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].text |
我們就從比較小的開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].start |
11676.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].end |
11678.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].text |
我們先把傳統船附贈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].start |
11678.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].end |
11680.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].text |
然後真的用一些比賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].start |
11680.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].end |
11682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].text |
或用真正一些航行的小計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].start |
11682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].end |
11684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].text |
讓它真正航行成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].start |
11684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].end |
11686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].start |
11686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].end |
11688.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].text |
而不是一個很大的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].start |
11688.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].end |
11690.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].text |
到最後你們成功的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].start |
11690.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].end |
11692.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].text |
成功拖行而沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].start |
11692.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].end |
11694.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].text |
真的完成成功的航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].start |
11694.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].end |
11696.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].text |
那這點有點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].start |
11696.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].end |
11698.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].text |
遺憾跟可惜所以是不是可以答應 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].start |
11698.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].end |
11700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].text |
本席剛才第一個建議就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].start |
11700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].end |
11702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].text |
我們真的要來附贈我們造船文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].start |
11702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].end |
11704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].text |
然後啟動真正的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].start |
11704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].end |
11706.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].text |
實際航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].start |
11706.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].end |
11708.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].text |
本席上次在那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].start |
11708.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].end |
11710.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].text |
院會我想這個院長這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].start |
11710.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].end |
11712.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].text |
很關心我們傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].start |
11712.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].end |
11714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].text |
項目的一些競賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].start |
11714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].end |
11716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].text |
本席有這樣一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].start |
11716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].end |
11718.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].text |
所以應該透過這種造船 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].start |
11718.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].end |
11720.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].text |
讓真正造船文化包括東海岸很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].start |
11720.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].end |
11722.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].text |
那來源應該也是可以有這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].start |
11722.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].end |
11724.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].text |
比賽只是說東海岸的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].start |
11724.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].end |
11726.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].text |
海象或許機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].start |
11726.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].end |
11728.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].text |
也是比較大所以是不是可以讓 |
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11728.04 |
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11730.04 |
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東海岸的部落或鄉鎮來造船 |
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11730.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].end |
11732.04 |
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以前都曾經有過 |
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11732.04 |
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11734.04 |
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我們透過有的知識造船 |
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11734.04 |
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11736.04 |
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讓它附贈但最重要 |
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11736.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].end |
11738.04 |
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是要實踐我們不能 |
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11738.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].end |
11740.04 |
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一時之再拖行 |
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11740.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].end |
11742.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].text |
不能把陸地上的那趟拿到海上 |
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11742.04 |
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11744.04 |
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好不好 |
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11744.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].end |
11746.04 |
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那這個部分是不是可以請附作的承諾 |
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11746.04 |
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11748.04 |
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因為它不是太難做 |
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11748.04 |
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11750.04 |
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而且應該是面對政策 |
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11750.04 |
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11752.04 |
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我們會來研議 |
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11752.04 |
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11754.04 |
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謝謝 |
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11754.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].end |
11756.04 |
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接下來就是原住民的航海學校 |
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11756.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].end |
11758.04 |
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那你們應該在東海岸或者是海洋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].start |
11758.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].end |
11760.04 |
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的這個我們島嶼建置一些 |
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11760.04 |
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11762.04 |
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航海的基地 |
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11762.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].end |
11764.04 |
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那這點應該公部門來強力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].start |
11764.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].end |
11766.04 |
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這個支撐嘛 |
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11766.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].end |
11768.04 |
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我們知道民間很多這樣子的一個能量 |
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11768.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].end |
11770.04 |
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但是如果你們沒有支撐的話 |
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11770.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].end |
11772.04 |
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他們其實也很難做 |
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11772.04 |
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11774.04 |
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所以是不是可以答應本席 |
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11774.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].end |
11776.04 |
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把這些真的有在投入的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].start |
11776.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].end |
11778.04 |
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這個海洋文化基地 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].start |
11778.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].end |
11780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].text |
讓透過公部門的一切支撐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].start |
11780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].end |
11782.04 |
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讓專業的原住民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].start |
11782.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].end |
11784.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].text |
南島的航海文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].start |
11784.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].end |
11786.04 |
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能夠在這些基地實踐呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].start |
11788.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].end |
11790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].text |
我想委員提這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].start |
11790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].end |
11792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].text |
我們會研議一個中長程計畫來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].start |
11792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].end |
11794.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].text |
這樣的相關的事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].start |
11794.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].end |
11796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].text |
那接下來很重要是這些舟艇 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].start |
11796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].end |
11798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].text |
船造完了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].start |
11798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].end |
11800.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].text |
到最後都爛在外面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].start |
11800.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].end |
11802.04 |
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所以本席也要跟文化部 |
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11802.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].end |
11804.04 |
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文化部今天也是有相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].start |
11804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].end |
11806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].text |
代表嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].start |
11806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].end |
11808.04 |
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文化部首先要謝謝你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].start |
11808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].end |
11810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].text |
對航海文化現在各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].start |
11810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].end |
11812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].text |
都有很多計畫在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].start |
11812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].end |
11814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].text |
但是這個進行沒有讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].start |
11814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].end |
11816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].text |
這個文化活起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].start |
11816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].end |
11818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].text |
那包括船的典藏 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].start |
11818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].end |
11820.04 |
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是不是你們也可以協助一下原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].start |
11820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].end |
11822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].text |
或協助目前已經有造成的舟艇 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].start |
11822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].end |
11824.04 |
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應該有一些典藏的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].start |
11824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].end |
11826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].text |
可能性跟典藏的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].start |
11826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].end |
11828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].text |
那大家造出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].start |
11828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].end |
11830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].text |
那後來放在外面爛掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].start |
11830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].end |
11832.04 |
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實在很可惜本席就看過了好幾艘 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].start |
11832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].end |
11834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].text |
那唯一的好處就是本席可以直接看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].start |
11834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].end |
11836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].text |
但是看到都是快要壞掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].start |
11836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].end |
11838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].text |
跟爛掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].start |
11838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].end |
11840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].text |
我想你們在典藏的專業上都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].start |
11840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].end |
11842.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].text |
那一些溫度濕度等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].start |
11842.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].end |
11844.04 |
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那是讓這些能夠好好維持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].start |
11846.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].end |
11848.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].text |
未來的一個文化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].start |
11848.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].end |
11850.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].text |
文化面的這個典藏應該是很重要的吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].start |
11850.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].end |
11852.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].text |
所以是不是可以請文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].start |
11852.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].end |
11854.04 |
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除了在展示以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].start |
11854.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].end |
11856.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].text |
可以在典藏的部分協助一下原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].start |
11856.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].end |
11858.04 |
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那原民會你們最重要的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].start |
11858.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].end |
11860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].text |
我們要讓這個海洋文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].start |
11860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].end |
11862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].text |
附贈不僅是海洋的知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].start |
11862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].end |
11864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].text |
還有海洋的載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].start |
11864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].end |
11866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].text |
最重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].start |
11866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].end |
11868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].text |
它要活起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].start |
11868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].end |
11870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].text |
因為全世界現在大家都還在航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].start |
11870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].end |
11872.04 |
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我相信我們一定是可以航行成功的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].start |
11872.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].end |
11874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].start |
11874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].end |
11876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].text |
好謝謝那加油囉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].start |
11876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].end |
11878.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].start |
11884.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].end |
11886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].start |
11886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].end |
11888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].text |
下一位請王洪威委員發言資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].start |
11896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].end |
11898.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].start |
11898.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].end |
11902.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].text |
我請我們原委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].start |
11902.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].end |
11904.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].text |
今天是副主委嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].start |
11904.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].end |
11906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].start |
11906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].end |
11908.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].text |
還有我們原民基金會的董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].start |
11908.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].end |
11910.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].text |
好副主委董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].start |
11910.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].end |
11912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].text |
在你們今天的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].start |
11912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].end |
11914.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].text |
有特別提到在去年底 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].start |
11914.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].end |
11916.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].text |
舉辦的世界原住民傳統運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].start |
11916.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].end |
11918.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].text |
但是呢在我們的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].start |
11918.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].end |
11920.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].text |
卻看不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].start |
11920.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].end |
11922.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].text |
有關於我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].start |
11922.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].end |
11924.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].text |
試源運 |
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11924.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].end |
11926.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].text |
那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].start |
11926.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].end |
11928.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].text |
在去年底 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].start |
11928.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].end |
11930.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].text |
我們有提到 |
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11930.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].end |
11932.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].text |
我們這個試源運 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].start |
11932.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].end |
11934.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].text |
有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].start |
11934.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].end |
11936.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].text |
我們這個試源運 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].start |
11936.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].end |
11938.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].text |
那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].start |
11938.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].end |
11940.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].text |
在去年底我們舉辦之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].start |
11940.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].end |
11942.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].text |
那麼未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].start |
11942.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].end |
11944.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].text |
我們還會不會有政策性推動的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].start |
11944.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].end |
11946.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].text |
因為在原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].start |
11946.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].end |
11948.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].text |
也說這不是原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].start |
11948.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].end |
11950.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].text |
經常性的業務預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].start |
11950.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].end |
11952.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].text |
那就是一個執行單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].start |
11952.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].end |
11954.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].text |
所以我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].start |
11954.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].end |
11956.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].text |
我們在去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].start |
11956.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].end |
11958.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].text |
這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].start |
11958.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].end |
11960.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].text |
特別辦理的這個 |
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11960.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].end |
11962.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].text |
試源運 |
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11962.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].end |
11964.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].text |
接下來我們原委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].start |
11964.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].end |
11966.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].text |
還有沒有任何政策性的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].start |
11966.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].end |
11968.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].text |
比如說他會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].start |
11968.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].end |
11970.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].text |
屬於常態性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].start |
11970.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].end |
11972.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].text |
或者兩年做一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].start |
11972.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].end |
11974.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].text |
或者四年做一次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].start |
11974.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].end |
11976.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].text |
這樣的任何的規劃嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].start |
11976.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].end |
11978.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].text |
各位報告這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].start |
11978.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].end |
11980.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].text |
去年所辦的世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].start |
11980.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].end |
11982.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].text |
傳統原住民運動會這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].start |
11982.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].end |
11984.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].text |
後來在跟各個的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].start |
11984.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].end |
11986.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].text |
國家在文化加入上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].start |
11986.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].end |
11988.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].text |
有很大的這個幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].start |
11988.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].end |
11990.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].text |
那我們事實上也規劃以後兩年一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].start |
11990.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].end |
11992.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].text |
就是在116年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].start |
11992.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].end |
11994.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].text |
有相關的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].start |
11994.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].end |
11996.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].text |
來爭取來辦理這個運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].start |
11996.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].end |
11998.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].text |
所以未來他會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].start |
11998.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].end |
12000.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].text |
屬於一個兩年一次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].start |
12000.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].end |
12002.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].text |
常態性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].start |
12002.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].end |
12004.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].text |
一個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].start |
12004.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].end |
12006.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].text |
因為你們去年辦完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].start |
12006.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].end |
12008.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].text |
我們當然要繼續去追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].start |
12008.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].end |
12010.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].text |
你們認為花了八千多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].start |
12010.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].end |
12012.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].text |
那這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].start |
12012.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].end |
12014.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].text |
活動到底他有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].start |
12014.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].end |
12016.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].text |
繼續再敗下去的價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].start |
12016.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].end |
12018.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].text |
因為我們之前都沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].start |
12018.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].end |
12020.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].text |
你們有任何的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].start |
12020.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].end |
12022.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].text |
實際的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].start |
12022.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].end |
12024.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].text |
另外你要請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].start |
12024.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].end |
12026.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].text |
我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].start |
12028.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].end |
12030.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].start |
12030.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].end |
12032.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].text |
我們副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].start |
12032.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].end |
12034.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].text |
8月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].start |
12034.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].end |
12036.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].text |
原住民族日 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].start |
12036.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].end |
12038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].text |
那當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].start |
12038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].end |
12040.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].text |
就是我們有這個8月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].start |
12040.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].end |
12042.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].text |
原住民族日的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].start |
12042.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].end |
12044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].text |
是很合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].start |
12044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].end |
12046.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].text |
但是以今年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].start |
12046.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].end |
12048.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].text |
今年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].start |
12048.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].end |
12050.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].text |
在原住民族日活動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].start |
12050.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].end |
12052.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].text |
勞務採購案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].start |
12052.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].end |
12054.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].text |
絕標金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].start |
12054.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].end |
12056.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].text |
高達1930萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].start |
12056.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].end |
12058.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].text |
高達1930萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].start |
12058.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].end |
12060.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].text |
如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].start |
12060.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].end |
12062.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].text |
跟去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].start |
12062.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].end |
12064.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].text |
這個是每一年都有8月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].start |
12064.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].end |
12066.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].text |
的原住民族日 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].start |
12066.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].end |
12068.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].text |
去年呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].start |
12068.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].end |
12070.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].text |
只有290萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].start |
12070.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].end |
12072.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].text |
增加的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].start |
12072.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].end |
12074.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].text |
是565.65% |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].start |
12074.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].end |
12076.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].text |
之多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].start |
12076.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].end |
12078.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].text |
第一個我想請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].start |
12078.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].end |
12080.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].start |
12080.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].end |
12082.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].text |
今年度的同樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].start |
12082.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].end |
12084.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].text |
平都是原住民族日 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].start |
12084.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].end |
12086.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].start |
12086.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].end |
12088.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].text |
今年採購金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].start |
12088.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].end |
12090.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].text |
突然暴增成這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].start |
12090.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].end |
12092.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].start |
12092.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].end |
12094.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].text |
第一個當然是時間我們有拉長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].start |
12094.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].end |
12096.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].text |
我們三天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].start |
12096.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].end |
12098.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].text |
之前可能就是一天而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].start |
12098.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].end |
12100.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].text |
為什麼今年變三天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].start |
12100.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].end |
12102.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].text |
為什麼以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].start |
12102.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].end |
12104.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].text |
跟那個台下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].start |
12104.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].end |
12106.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].text |
就是夏威夷 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].start |
12106.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].end |
12108.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].text |
合辦的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].start |
12108.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].end |
12110.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].text |
那他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].start |
12110.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].end |
12112.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].text |
而且又是會裡面的30週年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].start |
12112.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].end |
12114.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].text |
所以我們這次比較擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].start |
12114.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].end |
12116.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].text |
今年特別擴大舉辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].start |
12116.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].end |
12118.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].text |
因為我們是30週年原民會成立30週年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].start |
12118.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].end |
12120.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].text |
所以你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].start |
12120.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].end |
12122.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].text |
我們的一個這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].start |
12122.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].end |
12124.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].text |
所謂的採購案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].start |
12124.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].end |
12126.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].text |
從109年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].start |
12126.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].end |
12128.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].text |
109年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].start |
12128.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].end |
12130.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].text |
除了114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].start |
12130.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].end |
12132.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].text |
這個是最少290萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].start |
12132.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].end |
12134.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].text |
除了這個114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].start |
12134.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].end |
12136.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].text |
是被一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].start |
12136.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].end |
12138.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].text |
相差科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].start |
12138.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].end |
12140.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].text |
事業股份有限公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].start |
12140.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].end |
12142.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].text |
標走之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].start |
12142.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].end |
12144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].text |
其他全面性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].start |
12144.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].end |
12146.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].text |
包含今年恢復 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].start |
12146.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].end |
12148.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].text |
都是山海關國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].start |
12148.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].end |
12150.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].text |
整合行銷公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].start |
12150.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].end |
12152.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].text |
我有講過其實我對於標案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].start |
12152.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].end |
12154.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].text |
我最在乎的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].start |
12154.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].end |
12156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].text |
就是是不是過度集中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].start |
12156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].end |
12158.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].text |
是不是連續 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].start |
12158.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].end |
12160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].text |
我們政府的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].start |
12160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].end |
12162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].text |
可以好多年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].start |
12162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].end |
12164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].text |
都是只有一個公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].start |
12164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].end |
12166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].text |
或一個單位得標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].start |
12166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].end |
12168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].text |
我覺得這都是非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].start |
12168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].end |
12170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].text |
令人覺得不可思議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].start |
12170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].end |
12172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].text |
而且呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].start |
12172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].end |
12174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].text |
為什麼114年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].start |
12174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].end |
12176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].text |
就不是這個山海關國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].start |
12176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].end |
12178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].text |
行銷公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].start |
12178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].end |
12180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].text |
因為後來我們發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].start |
12180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].end |
12182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].text |
陳寅委員的助理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].start |
12182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].end |
12184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].text |
曾經在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].start |
12184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].end |
12186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].text |
114年之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].start |
12186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].end |
12188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].text |
針對這個山海關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].start |
12188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].end |
12190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].text |
國際公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].start |
12190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].end |
12192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].text |
在他的社群 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].start |
12192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].end |
12194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].text |
做了很多的批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].start |
12194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].end |
12196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].text |
他有講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].start |
12196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].end |
12198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].text |
聽說山海關國際行銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].start |
12198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].end |
12200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].text |
有限公司是許多 |
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原民主管機關的 |
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愛用廠商 |
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然後專門 |
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欺負原住民 |
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或者他也有質疑說 |
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山海關的無中山後台 |
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到底有多硬 |
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他說好多好聽的故事都到我這裡了 |
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12218.04 |
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感覺超銷商沒有在怕 |
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12218.04 |
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我不知道 |
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是不是因為這樣 |
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所以呢這整個你可以看到 |
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每一年都是這個 |
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山海關國際行銷公司 |
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12228.04 |
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在標到 |
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12232.04 |
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唯獨在114年 |
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你們不敢標給他了 |
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但是呢金額都變得很低 |
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你可以看到其他 |
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在114年之前 |
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都有契約變更 |
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12242.04 |
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12244.04 |
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每一年的金額 |
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12244.04 |
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12246.04 |
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都遠遠大於 |
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12246.04 |
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12248.04 |
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去年的290萬 |
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12248.04 |
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12250.04 |
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然後今年決定擴大 |
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12250.04 |
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12252.04 |
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舉辦 |
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12252.04 |
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12254.04 |
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讓我合理懷疑是不是因為 |
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12256.04 |
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114年他沒有標到 |
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12256.04 |
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所以今年呢再加金額 |
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12260.04 |
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來辦 |
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12260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].end |
12262.04 |
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然後又是再加山海關國際行銷公司 |
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12262.04 |
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12264.04 |
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所以 |
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12264.04 |
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12266.04 |
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我要講就是說 |
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12266.04 |
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12268.04 |
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我們這次在審預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].start |
12268.04 |
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12270.04 |
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不管沒宣費 |
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12270.04 |
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或者像這個什麼原住民 |
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12272.04 |
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12274.04 |
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族裕 |
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12274.04 |
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12276.04 |
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我不懂耶其他公司不能辦嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].start |
12278.04 |
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12280.04 |
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他們都沒有來標嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].start |
12280.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].end |
12282.04 |
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你們都跟我講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].start |
12282.04 |
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12284.04 |
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按照這個採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].start |
12284.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].end |
12286.04 |
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我們就按照採購程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].start |
12286.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].end |
12288.04 |
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因為很多公司都知道 |
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12288.04 |
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12290.04 |
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久了以後你們都有潛規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].start |
12290.04 |
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12292.04 |
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他在來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].start |
12292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].end |
12294.04 |
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都只是來做陪榜 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].start |
12294.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].end |
12296.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].text |
陪公子念書而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].start |
12296.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].end |
12298.04 |
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所以造成 |
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12298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].end |
12300.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].text |
一個原住民族裕 |
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12300.04 |
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12302.04 |
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過度集中在 |
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12302.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].end |
12304.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].text |
某一家公司裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].start |
12304.04 |
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12306.04 |
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而且今年 |
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12306.04 |
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12308.04 |
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暴增金額 |
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12308.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].end |
12310.04 |
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今天金額可能是 |
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12310.04 |
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12312.04 |
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30年到辦理的金額 |
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12312.04 |
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12314.04 |
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就這樣暴增了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].start |
12314.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].end |
12316.04 |
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所以我們現在 |
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12316.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].end |
12318.04 |
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有關於這些 |
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12318.04 |
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12320.04 |
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標案我還是 |
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12320.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].end |
12322.04 |
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會繼續的去盯住 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].start |
12322.04 |
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12324.04 |
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我覺得如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].start |
12324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].end |
12326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].text |
今天只是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].start |
12326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].end |
12328.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].text |
當時陳寅委員的助理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].start |
12328.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].end |
12330.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].text |
對這家公司顯然 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].start |
12330.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].end |
12332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].text |
他也應該聽到一些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].start |
12332.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].end |
12334.04 |
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他質疑了所以你們那時候避風頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].start |
12334.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].end |
12336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].text |
不敢給他今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].start |
12336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].end |
12338.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].text |
再給他而且金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].start |
12338.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].end |
12340.04 |
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加碼這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].start |
12340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].end |
12342.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].text |
所以這些標案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].start |
12342.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].end |
12344.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].text |
都要以招攻擊我把它列出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].start |
12344.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].end |
12346.04 |
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我相信很多的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].start |
12346.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].end |
12348.04 |
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會在座觀一看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].start |
12348.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].end |
12350.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].text |
大家都是行家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].start |
12350.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].end |
12352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].text |
這種標案沒有貓膩 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].start |
12352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].end |
12354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].text |
什麼才會有貓膩 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].start |
12354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].end |
12356.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].text |
所以我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].start |
12356.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].end |
12358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].text |
所以請我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].start |
12358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].end |
12360.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].text |
原委會能夠把 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].start |
12360.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].end |
12362.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].text |
這個相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].start |
12362.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].end |
12364.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].text |
今年到底為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].start |
12364.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].end |
12366.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].text |
你們要這樣大幅增加到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].start |
12366.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].end |
12368.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].text |
將近兩千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].start |
12368.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].end |
12370.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].text |
然後又回覆給原來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].start |
12370.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].end |
12372.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].text |
公司去做成標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].start |
12372.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].end |
12374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].text |
希望你能夠提供比較詳細的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].start |
12374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].end |
12376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].text |
書面報告給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].start |
12376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].end |
12378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].text |
否則的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].start |
12378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].end |
12380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].text |
我們本來像我剛才一開始問 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].start |
12380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].end |
12382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].text |
你們運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].start |
12382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].end |
12384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].text |
你們覺得有成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].start |
12384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].end |
12386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].text |
有文化交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].start |
12386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].end |
12388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].text |
原住民的文化交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].start |
12388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].end |
12390.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].text |
我們其實也都會支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].start |
12390.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].end |
12392.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].text |
但是不要去集中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].start |
12392.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].end |
12394.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].text |
特別廠商好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].start |
12394.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].end |
12396.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].text |
委員因為那個之前前幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].start |
12396.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].end |
12398.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].text |
我就講說他可能是單一的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].start |
12398.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].end |
12400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].text |
可能是行政會議可能是論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].start |
12400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].end |
12402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].text |
所以他的費用是比較低 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].start |
12402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].end |
12404.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].text |
但自己說三海關這個事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].start |
12404.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].end |
12406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].text |
我們台上的採購法有時候來標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].start |
12406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].end |
12408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].text |
就兩家一家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].start |
12408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].end |
12410.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].text |
那個都可受公評 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].start |
12410.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].end |
12412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].text |
可以看那個標案的他們實際這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].start |
12412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].end |
12414.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].text |
每一次的你們的集中 |
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12414.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].end |
12416.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].text |
你們每一次的集中 |
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12416.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].end |
12418.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].text |
通通都說可是我已經跟你講了 |
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12418.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].end |
12420.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].text |
很多業者都已經知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].start |
12420.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].end |
12422.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].text |
人家看這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].start |
12422.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].end |
12424.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].text |
還知道還要來標嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].start |
12424.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].end |
12426.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].text |
每一次都三海關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].start |
12426.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].end |
12428.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].text |
對不對每一次都三海關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].start |
12428.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].end |
12430.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].text |
而且還契約每一次都契約變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].start |
12430.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].end |
12432.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].text |
換了一家公司就沒有契約變更了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].start |
12432.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].end |
12434.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].text |
經費特別少也不是做契約變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].start |
12434.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].end |
12436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].text |
我不曉得你今年還會不會做契約變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].start |
12436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].end |
12438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].start |
12438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].end |
12440.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].text |
希望你們這些標案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].start |
12440.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].end |
12442.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].text |
希望你們這些標案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].start |
12442.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].end |
12444.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].text |
要以招公信 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].start |
12444.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].end |
12446.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].text |
不要每一次都特定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].start |
12446.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].end |
12448.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].text |
就是集中在某一家公司上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].start |
12448.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].end |
12450.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].text |
好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].start |
12450.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].end |
12452.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].text |
這個我們會檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].start |
12464.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].end |
12466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].text |
好現在處理臨時提案共兩案請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].start |
12466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].end |
12468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].text |
臨時提案一 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].start |
12468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].end |
12470.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].text |
鑑於國家語言整體發展方案中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].start |
12470.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].end |
12474.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].text |
原著民族族語節目影音製作計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].start |
12474.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].end |
12476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].text |
跨國族語節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].start |
12476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].end |
12478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].text |
製播計畫所編列經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].start |
12478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].end |
12480.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].text |
應用於族語節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].start |
12480.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].end |
12482.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].text |
製播及人才培育之用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].start |
12482.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].end |
12486.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].text |
維基經典迷你劇遠洋時代及族語戲劇劇本爭議後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].start |
12486.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].end |
12490.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].text |
再度發聲以世界原著民族運動會為名 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].start |
12490.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].end |
12492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].text |
將族語節目製播經費支應 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].start |
12492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].end |
12495.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].text |
與族語推廣關聯性不足之賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].start |
12495.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].end |
12497.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].text |
及周邊活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].start |
12497.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].end |
12500.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].text |
已有經費用途偏離原定政策目的之疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].start |
12500.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].end |
12505.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].text |
令海陸南島與主航海計畫投入3850萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].start |
12505.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].end |
12509.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].text |
原定兩天一夜之航程最終縮短為約三小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].start |
12509.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].end |
12513.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].text |
並發生船體受損及未完成原定航程等情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].start |
12513.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].end |
12516.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].text |
事後卻仍以圓滿成功對外宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].start |
12516.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].end |
12522.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].text |
相關檢討報告意味具體釐清決策規劃旅約管理及就責責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].start |
12522.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].end |
12529.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].text |
有原著民族廣播電台訊源傳播及監控系統設備建置與相關基地台設置案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].start |
12529.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].end |
12531.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].text |
原預計十個月內完工 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].start |
12531.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].end |
12534.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].text |
歷經將近十年仍未完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].start |
12534.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].end |
12537.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].text |
迄今意味見原文會就契約管理工程延宕 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].start |
12537.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].end |
12539.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].text |
廠商違約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].start |
12539.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].end |
12542.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].text |
驗收控管及相關人員責任提出完整說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].start |
12542.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].end |
12544.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].text |
為釐清經費用途至合法性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].start |
12544.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].end |
12548.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].text |
計畫執行是否符合政策目的及相關責任歸屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].start |
12548.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].end |
12552.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].text |
原請原住民族委員會及財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].start |
12552.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].end |
12557.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].text |
於一個月內辦理下列事項並以書面含附立法院內政委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].start |
12557.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].end |
12560.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].text |
一主案說明預算來源核定計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].start |
12560.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].end |
12562.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].text |
實際支用項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].start |
12562.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].end |
12565.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].text |
經而及其與足以政策目的之關聯性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].start |
12565.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].end |
12570.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].text |
二檢討個案規劃採購旅約驗收及監督及督導過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].start |
12570.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].end |
12572.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].text |
並釐清原民會原文會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].start |
12572.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].end |
12575.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].text |
承辦人員及旅約廠商自責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].start |
12575.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].end |
12580.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].text |
三針對旅約情形計畫延宕執行成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].start |
12580.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].end |
12585.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].text |
為符預期及經費使用缺失情形核定提出檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].start |
12585.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].end |
12588.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].text |
四提出具體改善措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].start |
12588.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].end |
12592.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].text |
包括經費控管重大計畫風險評估旅約查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].start |
12592.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].end |
12596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].text |
資訊公開及究責機制避免類似情形再次發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].start |
12596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].end |
12600.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].text |
五請原文會說明上開一至四 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].start |
12600.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].end |
12603.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].text |
取原民會說明監督原文會之改善情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].start |
12603.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].end |
12605.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].text |
提案人高晶素梅等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].start |
12605.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].end |
12612.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].text |
臨時提案二有鑒於原住民人口自114年至115年6月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].start |
12612.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].end |
12616.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].text |
增加近2.6萬人增幅約4.24% |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].start |
12616.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].end |
12623.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].text |
然原住民主委員會卻未同步向行政院爭取相應之預算及人力資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].start |
12623.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].end |
12626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].text |
現有各項原住民主政策福利及補助資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].start |
12626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].end |
12631.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].text |
孔英服務對象持續增加而遭稀釋影響既有族人權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].start |
12631.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].end |
12636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].text |
又目前審議之原住民身份法修正草案意味見原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].start |
12636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].end |
12642.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].text |
就各項修法可能增加資源住民族人口各項福利政策影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].start |
12642.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].end |
12645.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].text |
所需預算規模中央及地方政府配套措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].start |
12645.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].end |
12651.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].text |
以及各部會應辦事項進行完整評估恐影響後續政策推動及財政規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].start |
12651.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].end |
12656.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].text |
據此原請原住民主委員會於兩個月內完成整體影響評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].start |
12656.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].end |
12660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].text |
並以書面送至立法院內政委員會內容至少包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].start |
12660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].end |
12664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].text |
一近兩年原住民族人口增加情形及未來人口推估 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].start |
12664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].end |
12671.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].text |
二希拉雅族及其他評估原住民族族群納入後各項政策福利及服務對象增加情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].start |
12671.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].end |
12678.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].text |
三原住民身份法修正後可能增加人口數各項預算需求及財政影響分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].start |
12678.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].end |
12684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].text |
四各部會因新增原住民族人口應配合辦理事項經費需求及分工規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].start |
12684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].end |
12691.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].text |
五原住原民會向行政院爭取新增預算及人力資源之具體規劃與期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].start |
12691.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].end |
12695.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].text |
提案人高晶素梅等人宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].start |
12695.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].end |
12700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].text |
好兩位應該都公通過了請問提案委員有要說明的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].start |
12700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].end |
12702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].text |
提案委員有要說明的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].start |
12714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].end |
12718.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].text |
好臨時提案第二個我大概說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].start |
12718.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].end |
12721.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].text |
我是覺得這個大家的想法是很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].start |
12721.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].end |
12724.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].text |
但是呢大家要審慎評估一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].start |
12724.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].end |
12729.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].text |
就是我們原住民身份法的修正草案如果OK的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].start |
12729.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].end |
12733.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].text |
那個基層的民意代表可能會影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].start |
12733.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].end |
12737.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].text |
那是不是其他的委員也能夠支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].start |
12737.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].end |
12740.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].text |
因為人口增加了我們大家地方選舉啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].start |
12740.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].end |
12743.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].text |
包括代表代表議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].start |
12743.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].end |
12749.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].text |
所以我今天這個臨時提案就是希望這個原民會能夠完整的提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].start |
12749.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].end |
12752.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].text |
以下的幾點大家沒有想到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].start |
12752.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].end |
12755.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].text |
包括財政的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].start |
12755.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].end |
12759.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].text |
我們的政府行政院是不是能夠多給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].start |
12759.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].end |
12761.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].text |
那這些如果都沒有考量到的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].start |
12761.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].end |
12765.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].text |
我覺得修法其實真的會影響蠻大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].start |
12765.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].end |
12771.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].text |
所以以上提供這個臨時提案的一二三四五項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].start |
12771.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].end |
12773.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].text |
供在場的委員們參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].start |
12773.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].end |
12775.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].text |
也請原民會參考謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].start |
12780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].end |
12785.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].text |
主委就按照剛才你們要回應嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].start |
12785.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].end |
12787.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].start |
12787.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].end |
12789.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].text |
李柏惟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].start |
12791.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].end |
12796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].text |
請提問說明一下剛高進委員講的臨時提案第二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].start |
12796.04 |
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委員這個說明這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].start |
12798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].end |
12802.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].text |
需要我們提供書面報告這樣的一個評估的作業 |
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12802.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].end |
12805.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].text |
那事實上涉及的非常廣泛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].start |
12805.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].end |
12809.04 |
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那我們是希望說是不是有可能給我們再多一點的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].start |
12809.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].end |
12813.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].text |
因為兩個月可能這些東西要去規劃出來有困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].start |
12813.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].end |
12815.04 |
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可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].start |
12815.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].end |
12817.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].text |
今天要修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].start |
12817.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].end |
12820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].text |
時間我沒有意見了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].start |
12820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].end |
12825.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].text |
當然就是你們一定要完整的這些評估報告還有這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].start |
12825.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].end |
12831.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].text |
我覺得就是你可能要問一下在場的其他的提案人員他們的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].start |
12831.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].end |
12835.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].text |
因為今天有其他的委員要審身分法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].start |
12835.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].end |
12838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].text |
然後其實那個具體真的是會有影響的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].start |
12838.04 |
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12845.04 |
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因為我們之前協調相關法案我們有講過我們這樣118個法規命令或是法律要做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].start |
12845.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].end |
12847.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].text |
那我們9月30號會回收 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].start |
12847.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].end |
12849.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].text |
那回收以後就會看得出來哪一個是要動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].start |
12849.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].end |
12851.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].text |
你希望多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].start |
12851.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].end |
12857.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].text |
提案二 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].start |
12857.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].end |
12859.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].text |
對提案二的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].start |
12859.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].end |
12861.04 |
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提案三多久嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].start |
12861.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].end |
12863.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].text |
我上面寫兩個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].start |
12863.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].end |
12865.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].text |
你們剛剛我提的說你們沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].start |
12865.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].end |
12867.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].text |
所以現在是有意見是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].start |
12867.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].end |
12869.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].text |
我希望給我們多一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].start |
12869.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].end |
12871.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].text |
OK沒問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].start |
12871.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].end |
12873.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].text |
我覺得真的是要好好評估啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].start |
12873.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].end |
12875.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].text |
原文會你們要負責任的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].start |
12875.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].end |
12881.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].text |
把12345我們盡可能考慮到想像到未來會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].start |
12881.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].end |
12883.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].text |
這樣子修法才是負責任的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].start |
12883.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].end |
12885.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].start |
12885.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].end |
12887.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].text |
包括你還會影響到選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].start |
12887.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].end |
12889.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].text |
議員的選舉代表的選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].start |
12889.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].end |
12891.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].text |
大家還記得嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].start |
12891.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].end |
12893.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].text |
我們在修那個議員的選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].start |
12893.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].end |
12895.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].text |
還有代表的選舉的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].start |
12895.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].end |
12897.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].text |
在這個地方我們就討論了好多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].start |
12897.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].end |
12899.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].text |
光是增加一席增加兩席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].start |
12899.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].end |
12901.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].text |
就會整個影響到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].start |
12901.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].end |
12903.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].text |
所以我認為大家還是要負責任的來修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].start |
12903.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].end |
12905.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].start |
12909.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].end |
12911.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].text |
好謝謝啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].start |
12911.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].end |
12913.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].text |
這個本來就應該尊重高經委員這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].start |
12913.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].end |
12915.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].text |
而且我覺得他提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].start |
12915.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].end |
12917.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].text |
臨時提案二的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].start |
12917.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].end |
12919.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].text |
本來也是要面對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].start |
12919.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].end |
12921.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].text |
只是說你要多少時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].start |
12921.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].end |
12923.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].text |
我們當然也希望不要拖太久 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].start |
12923.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].end |
12925.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].text |
就尊重委員會這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].start |
12925.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].end |
12927.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].text |
那我們就同意三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].start |
12927.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].end |
12929.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].text |
之外我想要對臨時提案一 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].start |
12929.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].end |
12931.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].text |
剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].start |
12931.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].end |
12933.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].text |
臨時提案一的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].start |
12933.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].end |
12935.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].text |
我想要給一點建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].start |
12935.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].end |
12937.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].text |
就是說好像跟我質詢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].start |
12937.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].end |
12939.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].text |
好像這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].start |
12939.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].end |
12941.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].text |
想像相反的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].start |
12941.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].end |
12943.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].start |
12943.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].end |
12945.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].text |
文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].start |
12945.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].end |
12947.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].text |
活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].start |
12947.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].end |
12949.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].text |
內容 成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].start |
12949.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].end |
12951.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].text |
我覺得都可以鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].start |
12951.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].end |
12953.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].text |
甚至我是有期待的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].start |
12953.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].end |
12955.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].text |
那高經委員提出來要檢討的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].start |
12955.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].end |
12957.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].text |
我覺得要檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].start |
12957.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].end |
12959.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].text |
要檢討沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].start |
12959.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].end |
12961.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].text |
但是我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].start |
12961.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].end |
12963.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].text |
這個運動會跟推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].start |
12963.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].end |
12965.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].text |
跟直播節目計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].start |
12965.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].end |
12967.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].text |
他應該是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].start |
12967.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].end |
12969.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].text |
啊主委回來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].start |
12969.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].end |
12971.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].text |
辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].start |
12971.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].end |
12973.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].text |
這應該是一個正面的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].start |
12973.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].end |
12975.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].text |
所以我們是不是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].start |
12975.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].end |
12977.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].text |
主席容我們跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].start |
12977.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].end |
12979.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].text |
這個委員會跟高經委 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].start |
12979.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].end |
12981.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].text |
我們一起來對臨時提案一的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].start |
12981.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].end |
12983.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].text |
我們來做一個討論好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].start |
12987.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].end |
12989.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].text |
剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].start |
12989.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].end |
12991.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].text |
委員會其實有針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].start |
12991.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].end |
12993.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].text |
臨時提案一的第三個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].start |
12993.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].end |
12995.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].text |
他已經有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].start |
12995.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].end |
12997.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].text |
有修正了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].start |
12997.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].end |
12999.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].text |
你們看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].start |
12999.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].end |
13001.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].text |
過來討論一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].start |
13001.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].end |
13003.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].text |
還是其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].start |
13003.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].end |
13005.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].text |
有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].start |
13011.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].end |
13013.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].text |
對我來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].start |
13013.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].end |
13015.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].text |
因為我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].start |
13015.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].end |
13017.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].text |
聽起來上次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].start |
13017.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].end |
13019.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].text |
詢答跟今天的詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].start |
13019.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].end |
13021.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].text |
很多的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].start |
13021.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].end |
13023.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].text |
好像都很肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].start |
13023.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].end |
13025.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].text |
也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].start |
13025.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].end |
13027.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].text |
有永續性未來性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].start |
13027.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].end |
13029.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].text |
那也願意在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].start |
13029.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].end |
13031.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].text |
經費的分裂上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].start |
13031.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].end |
13033.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].text |
鼓勵原民會支持原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].start |
13033.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].end |
13035.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].text |
不過跟到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].start |
13035.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].end |
13037.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].text |
臨時提案的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].start |
13037.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].end |
13039.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].text |
我其實對下面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].start |
13039.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].end |
13041.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].text |
以書面函覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].start |
13041.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].end |
13043.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].text |
的部分一二三四五 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].start |
13043.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].end |
13045.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].text |
我個人是覺得這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].start |
13045.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].end |
13047.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].text |
沒有問題但是有希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].start |
13047.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].end |
13049.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].text |
是不是前面的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].start |
13049.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].end |
13051.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].text |
文字能夠改一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].start |
13051.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].end |
13053.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].text |
就像剛才大家所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].start |
13053.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].end |
13055.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].text |
好像有點背離 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].start |
13055.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].end |
13057.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].text |
所以以我個人來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].start |
13057.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].end |
13059.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].text |
我所知道的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].start |
13059.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].end |
13061.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].text |
其實以這個海陸 |
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13061.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].end |
13063.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].text |
南島宇族航海計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].start |
13063.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].end |
13065.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].text |
這個我記得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].start |
13065.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].end |
13067.04 |
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有好幾年前就開始協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].start |
13067.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].end |
13069.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].text |
各位瞭解經費的取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].start |
13069.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].end |
13071.04 |
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相當不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].start |
13071.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].end |
13073.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].text |
非常的不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].start |
13073.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].end |
13075.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].text |
所以才會拖這麼多年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].start |
13075.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].end |
13077.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].text |
甚至呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].start |
13077.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].end |
13079.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].text |
那個八丹島的省長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].start |
13079.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].end |
13081.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].text |
副省長他們也來訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].start |
13081.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].end |
13083.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].text |
也關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].start |
13083.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].end |
13085.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].text |
最後文化部有先給錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].start |
13085.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].end |
13087.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].text |
反而是原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].start |
13087.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].end |
13089.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].text |
是最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].start |
13089.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].end |
13091.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].text |
因為我們想說這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].start |
13091.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].end |
13093.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].text |
我們原住民的活動人家文化部都已經願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].start |
13093.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].end |
13095.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].text |
支持了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].start |
13095.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].end |
13097.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].text |
那原民會不支持也不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].start |
13097.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].end |
13099.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].text |
所以我知道的是經費取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].start |
13099.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].end |
13101.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].text |
不容易而且呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].start |
13101.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].end |
13103.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].text |
我也跨部會十個部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].start |
13103.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].end |
13105.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].text |
協調過兩次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].start |
13105.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].end |
13107.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].text |
因為航海其實要處理的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].start |
13107.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].end |
13109.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].text |
非常的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].start |
13109.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].end |
13111.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].text |
所以我覺得下面那個要所知的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].start |
13111.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].end |
13113.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].text |
我覺得倒沒有什麼意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].start |
13113.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].end |
13115.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].text |
可是我覺得前面的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].start |
13115.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].end |
13117.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].text |
文字敘述 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].start |
13117.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].end |
13119.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].text |
好像有一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].start |
13119.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].end |
13121.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].text |
不是那麼理想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].start |
13121.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].end |
13123.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].text |
所以我也是建議說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].start |
13123.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].end |
13125.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].text |
文字修正的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].start |
13125.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].end |
13127.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].text |
大家可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].start |
13127.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].end |
13129.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].text |
我扶贏那個李國毅召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].start |
13129.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].end |
13131.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].text |
我是必須要說清楚一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].start |
13131.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].end |
13133.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].text |
這個臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].start |
13133.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].end |
13135.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].text |
剛剛我們在質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].start |
13135.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].end |
13137.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].text |
原民會教人處 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].start |
13137.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].end |
13139.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].text |
部長講得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].start |
13139.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].end |
13141.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].text |
這兩個活動原住民日跟航海日 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].start |
13141.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].end |
13147.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].text |
用的都是國家語言整體發展方案裡面的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].start |
13147.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].end |
13151.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].text |
當然原民會或原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].start |
13151.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].end |
13153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].text |
你們想要辦任何一個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].start |
13153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].end |
13155.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].text |
我們都全力支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].start |
13155.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].end |
13159.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].text |
但是你不能夠把A的錢放到B的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].start |
13159.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].end |
13163.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].text |
甚至於我還非常樂意支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].start |
13163.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].end |
13165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].text |
以後全世界原住民的運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].start |
13165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].end |
13169.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].text |
請原民會每年編公共預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].start |
13169.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].end |
13171.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].text |
其他的部會我們也幫你爭取預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].start |
13171.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].end |
13173.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].text |
讓他們每年每年的來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].start |
13173.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].end |
13177.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].text |
而不是像現在你想到什麼要做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].start |
13177.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].end |
13179.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].text |
那陳昱哥吳立華委員說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].start |
13179.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].end |
13183.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].text |
111年文化部已經要給這筆錢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].start |
13183.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].end |
13187.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].text |
就表示已經很早以前在講這個事情了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].start |
13187.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].end |
13189.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].text |
為什麼要在115年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].start |
13189.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].end |
13191.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].text |
用國家語言整體方案的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].start |
13191.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].end |
13193.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].text |
來命這些事情呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].start |
13193.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].end |
13197.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].text |
所以其實我不是不支持這兩個方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].start |
13197.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].end |
13199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].text |
我都很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].start |
13199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].end |
13203.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].text |
但是希望原民會回歸到你們的預算體制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].start |
13203.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].end |
13205.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].text |
國家語言整體發展方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].start |
13205.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].end |
13209.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].text |
其實我們都知道它是四年計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].start |
13209.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].end |
13211.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].text |
對吧 處長是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].start |
13211.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].end |
13213.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].text |
每一年四年計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].start |
13213.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].end |
13215.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].text |
這四年計畫你們都要跟行政院報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].start |
13215.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].end |
13217.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].text |
還是它已經要結束了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].start |
13217.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].end |
13219.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].text |
對 好 如果是這樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].start |
13219.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].end |
13223.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].text |
那你們能不能跟行政院開個會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].start |
13223.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].end |
13227.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].text |
以後這個所謂的海陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].start |
13227.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].end |
13231.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].text |
還有原住民的運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].start |
13231.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].end |
13235.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].text |
希望行政院另外部門預算給你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].start |
13235.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].end |
13237.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].text |
而不再用主語的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].start |
13237.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].end |
13239.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].text |
國家語言整體方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].start |
13239.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].end |
13243.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].text |
我覺得這是不對的 好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].start |
13243.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].end |
13245.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].text |
很好啊 那就很好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].start |
13245.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].end |
13249.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].text |
那就跟今天的臨時提案就沒有相衝突啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].start |
13249.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].end |
13251.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].text |
那就透過這個提案就行了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].start |
13251.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].end |
13253.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].start |
13253.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].end |
13259.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].text |
主席 我今天早上坐在這裡到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].start |
13259.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].end |
13261.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].text |
我仔細再聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].start |
13261.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].end |
13265.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].text |
兩邊講完以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].start |
13265.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].end |
13267.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].text |
我都覺得我現在的心情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].start |
13267.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].end |
13269.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].text |
我仔細再聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].start |
13269.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].end |
13273.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].text |
兩邊講完以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].start |
13273.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].end |
13277.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].text |
我聽到林建啟委員說明以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].start |
13277.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].end |
13279.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].text |
我才知道說原來有這麼長的拖行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].start |
13279.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].end |
13283.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].text |
我現在跟各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].start |
13283.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].end |
13287.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].text |
我們的祖先真的很偉大 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].start |
13287.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].end |
13289.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].text |
我看這個是英文的文獻 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].start |
13289.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].end |
13291.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].text |
這獨木舟CAMME |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].start |
13291.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].end |
13297.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].text |
還有Double How Board |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].start |
13297.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].end |
13299.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].text |
雙病人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].start |
13299.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].end |
13301.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].text |
我們三百多年前的祖先 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].start |
13301.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].end |
13303.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].text |
要航行到萬丹 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].start |
13303.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].end |
13307.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].text |
他們躺在獨木舟上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].start |
13307.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].end |
13311.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].text |
靠他的背感覺海浪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].start |
13311.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].end |
13313.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].text |
他知道這個是順流海 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].start |
13313.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].end |
13315.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].text |
順流坡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].start |
13315.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].end |
13319.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].text |
還是逆流撞到海島再回來的坡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].start |
13319.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].end |
13323.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].text |
所以我們原文會太小看我們的祖先 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].start |
13323.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].end |
13327.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].text |
所以你貌然出海才會造成這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].start |
13327.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].end |
13331.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].text |
所以今天我客觀我第三檔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].start |
13331.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].end |
13339.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].text |
這個文字可能需要對原文會有所加油一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].start |
13339.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].end |
13343.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].text |
但是也不要過刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].start |
13343.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].end |
13345.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].text |
因為我們太小看我們的祖先 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].start |
13345.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].end |
13353.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].text |
我們南島語族從台灣到剛才我第一個質詢那個麻豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].start |
13353.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].end |
13357.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].text |
那個麻豆就是南島語族所共用的眼睛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].start |
13357.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].end |
13363.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].text |
能夠航行到自立外海的火地島 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].start |
13363.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].end |
13365.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].text |
那是用跳島的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].start |
13365.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].end |
13369.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].text |
而美軍在二次大戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].start |
13369.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].end |
13371.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].text |
就是用這個道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].start |
13371.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].end |
13375.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].text |
逆向回攻日本本土 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].start |
13375.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].end |
13379.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].text |
所以各位我們都要知道這些祖先的歷史跟智慧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].start |
13379.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].end |
13383.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].text |
所以我們今天兩邊坦白講都有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].start |
13383.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].end |
13387.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].text |
我們用則中的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].start |
13387.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].end |
13393.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].text |
我不知道要改什麼文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].start |
13393.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].end |
13397.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].text |
你們原文會主委都說OK |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].start |
13397.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].end |
13399.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].text |
所以請問一下我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].start |
13399.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].end |
13403.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].text |
星期六他們的國語溝通的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].start |
13403.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].end |
13407.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].text |
各位臨時提案一 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].start |
13407.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].end |
13411.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].text |
大家看一下那些文字就是原文會修的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].start |
13411.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].end |
13413.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].text |
他們說沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].start |
13413.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].end |
13419.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].text |
所以不知道現在在場的文字委員還有什麼意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].start |
13419.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].end |
13423.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].text |
對那是他們修的我OK |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].start |
13423.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].end |
13427.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].text |
來主席讓他們溝通一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].start |
13441.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].end |
13443.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].text |
沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].start |
13443.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].end |
13447.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].text |
第一是全言二是事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].start |
13447.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].end |
13452.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].text |
國家語言整體發展方案的確不是用在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].start |
13452.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].end |
13454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].text |
好不好不可以這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].start |
13454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].end |
13456.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].text |
這個最重要就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].start |
13456.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].end |
13460.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].text |
語言的錢就花在語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].start |
13460.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].end |
13462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].text |
而且現在我們有多少的主語老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].start |
13462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].end |
13464.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].text |
或者是家庭的主語的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].start |
13464.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].end |
13468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].text |
我們現在都還非常的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].start |
13468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].end |
13472.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].text |
你不可以拿A的錢去做B的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].start |
13472.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].end |
13474.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].start |
13474.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].end |
13476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].text |
主委請溝通一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].start |
13478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].end |
13482.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].text |
主席拜託主委溝通一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].start |
13482.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].end |
13484.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].text |
很快啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].start |
13484.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].end |
13486.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].text |
應該你們的重點就在於最後一句話而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].start |
13486.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].end |
13488.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].text |
已有經費用途 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].start |
13488.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].end |
13490.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].text |
偏離原定之物 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].start |
13490.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].end |
13492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].text |
就是疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].start |
13492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].end |
13494.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].text |
疑慮有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].start |
13494.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].end |
13496.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].text |
它並不是在批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].start |
13496.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].end |
13498.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].text |
疑慮有什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].start |
13498.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].end |
13500.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].text |
這並不是一個類似譴責案這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].start |
13500.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].end |
13502.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].text |
不是這樣的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].start |
13502.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].end |
13504.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].start |
13504.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].end |
13506.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].start |
13506.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].end |
13508.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].text |
原民會覺得OK的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].start |
13508.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].end |
13510.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].text |
是不是就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].start |
13510.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].end |
13512.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].text |
就依照原本的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].start |
13512.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].end |
13514.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].text |
意見通過這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].start |
13514.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].end |
13516.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].text |
什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].start |
13516.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].end |
13518.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].text |
你如果沒意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].start |
13518.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].end |
13520.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].start |
13520.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].end |
13522.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].text |
那如果你用這個文章 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].start |
13522.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].end |
13524.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].text |
看到第一段我就覺得是不肯定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].start |
13524.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].end |
13526.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].start |
13526.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].end |
13528.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].text |
我看到第一段我就覺得是不肯定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].start |
13528.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].end |
13530.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].text |
只是在講情緒 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].start |
13530.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].end |
13532.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].text |
修了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].start |
13532.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].end |
13534.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].text |
修了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].start |
13534.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].end |
13536.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].text |
修了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].start |
13536.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].end |
13538.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].text |
修了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].start |
13538.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].end |
13540.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].text |
他是修上面那一句 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].start |
13540.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].end |
13542.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].start |
13542.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].end |
13544.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].text |
說明關聯性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].start |
13544.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].end |
13546.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].text |
因為大家都覺得有關聯性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].start |
13546.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].end |
13548.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].text |
因為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].start |
13548.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].end |
13550.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].text |
主語推廣的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].start |
13550.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].end |
13552.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].text |
他可以連結到很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].start |
13552.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].end |
13554.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].text |
剛剛處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].start |
13554.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].end |
13556.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].text |
修的那幾個文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].start |
13556.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].end |
13558.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].text |
我是同意啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].start |
13558.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].end |
13560.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].text |
但是基本上我還是真的希望你們以後不要這麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].start |
13560.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].end |
13562.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].text |
他是修的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].start |
13562.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].end |
13564.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].text |
將主語節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].start |
13564.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].end |
13566.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].text |
製播的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].start |
13566.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].end |
13568.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].text |
均應於主語的推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].start |
13568.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].end |
13570.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].text |
予以檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].start |
13570.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].end |
13572.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].text |
並說明其關聯性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].start |
13572.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].end |
13574.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].text |
並說明其關聯性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].start |
13574.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].end |
13576.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].start |
13576.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].end |
13578.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].text |
我覺得國家語言整體發展方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].start |
13578.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].end |
13580.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].text |
因為直接說關聯性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].start |
13580.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].end |
13582.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].text |
我希望你下次不要再這樣子做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].start |
13582.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].end |
13584.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].text |
我希望你下次不要再這樣子做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].start |
13584.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].end |
13586.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].text |
這兩件事情都非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].start |
13586.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].end |
13588.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].text |
請你們跟行政院另外拿預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].start |
13588.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].end |
13590.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].text |
不要再主語上面的錢去用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].start |
13590.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].end |
13592.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].start |
13592.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].end |
13594.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].text |
還有公司要來跟宣讀好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].start |
13594.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].end |
13596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].start |
13596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].end |
13598.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].text |
我們老人家也支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].start |
13598.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].end |
13600.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].text |
我們老人家也支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].start |
13600.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].end |
13602.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].text |
原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].start |
13602.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].end |
13604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].text |
阿嬤是這樣玩 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].start |
13604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].end |
13606.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].text |
你們好了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].start |
13606.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].end |
13608.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].text |
我要繼續囉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].start |
13608.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].end |
13610.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].text |
好我們第一案及第二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].start |
13610.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].end |
13612.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].text |
照修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].start |
13612.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].end |
13614.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].start |
13614.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].end |
13616.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].text |
沒有我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].start |
13616.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].end |
13618.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].text |
中午不休息繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].start |
13618.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].end |
13620.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].text |
登記質詢委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].start |
13620.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].end |
13622.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].text |
除不在場者外 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].start |
13622.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].end |
13624.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].text |
其餘均已質詢完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].start |
13624.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].end |
13626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].text |
委員訊答結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].start |
13626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].end |
13628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].text |
委員張志倫許心瑩所提書面質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].start |
13628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].end |
13630.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].text |
列入記錄刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].start |
13630.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].end |
13632.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].text |
書面質詢和未集答覆部分請相關單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].start |
13632.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].end |
13634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].text |
於一週內以書面答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].start |
13634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].end |
13636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].text |
並複製本會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].start |
13636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].end |
13638.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].start |
13638.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].end |
13640.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].text |
報告委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].start |
13640.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].end |
13642.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].text |
現在進行法案審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].start |
13642.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].end |
13644.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].text |
請宣讀討論事項所有條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].start |
13644.04 |
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13646.04 |
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修正動議 |
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13646.04 |
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13648.04 |
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請一併宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].start |
13648.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].end |
13650.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].text |
請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].start |
13650.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].end |
13652.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].text |
那整個過程大概十分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].start |
13652.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].end |
13654.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].text |
那大家可以趁這段時間休息 |
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13654.04 |
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13656.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].text |
好 |
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13656.04 |
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13658.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].start |
13658.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].end |
13660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].text |
原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].start |
13660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].end |
13662.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].text |
第一條委員郭國文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].start |
13662.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].end |
13664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].text |
等十六人提案修正違違認定原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].start |
13664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].end |
13666.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].text |
保障原住民權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].start |
13666.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].end |
13668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].text |
並依據憲法法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].start |
13668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].end |
13670.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].text |
一百十一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].start |
13670.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].end |
13672.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].text |
憲判自第十七號判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].start |
13672.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].end |
13674.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].text |
主文所揭示之意旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].start |
13674.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].end |
13676.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].text |
確認憲法徵修條文第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].start |
13676.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].end |
13678.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].text |
第十一項及第十二項前段 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].start |
13678.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].end |
13680.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].text |
所保障自原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].start |
13680.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].end |
13682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].text |
因包劃寄存於台灣之所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].start |
13682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].end |
13684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].text |
台灣南島與西民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].start |
13684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].end |
13686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].text |
第二條委員鄭天才 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].start |
13686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].end |
13688.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].text |
等十八人提案委員黃仁等十九人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].start |
13688.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].end |
13690.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].text |
提案刪除第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].start |
13690.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].end |
13692.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].text |
第二款末段並申請戶籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].start |
13692.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].end |
13694.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].text |
所在地鄉鎮市區公所 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].start |
13694.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].end |
13696.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].text |
登記為平地原住民有案等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].start |
13696.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].end |
13698.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].text |
文字其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].start |
13698.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].end |
13700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].text |
委員吳立華等十八人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].start |
13700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].end |
13702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].text |
修正違違本法所稱原住民如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].start |
13702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].end |
13704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].text |
依山地行政區原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].start |
13704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].end |
13706.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].text |
依戶口調查部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].start |
13706.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].end |
13708.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].text |
原籍在山地行政區域內且本人或 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].start |
13708.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].end |
13710.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].text |
直系血清專清署 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].start |
13710.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].end |
13712.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].text |
已登錄為原住民者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].start |
13712.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].end |
13714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].text |
二平地行政區原住民依戶口 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].start |
13714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].end |
13716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].text |
調查部原籍在平地行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].start |
13716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].end |
13718.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].text |
區域內且本人或直系血清 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].start |
13718.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].end |
13720.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].text |
專清署已登錄為原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].start |
13720.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].end |
13722.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].text |
並經戶籍所在地鄉鎮市區公所 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].start |
13722.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].end |
13724.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].text |
完成平地行政區原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].start |
13724.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].end |
13726.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].text |
身份的記者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].start |
13726.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].end |
13728.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].text |
三同屬南島羽系民族之其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].start |
13728.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].end |
13730.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].text |
台灣原住民族本人或直系血清 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].start |
13730.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].end |
13732.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].text |
專清署屬於原籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].start |
13732.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].end |
13734.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].text |
於相關行政區內且依戶籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].start |
13734.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].end |
13736.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].text |
或其他客觀歷史記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].start |
13736.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].end |
13738.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].text |
可證明其屬南島羽系民族者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].start |
13738.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].end |
13740.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].text |
前項第三款所稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].start |
13740.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].end |
13742.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].text |
同屬南島羽系民族之其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].start |
13742.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].end |
13744.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].text |
台灣原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].start |
13744.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].end |
13746.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].text |
關於民族權利身份認定及 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].start |
13746.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].end |
13748.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].text |
相關政治參與資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].start |
13748.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].end |
13750.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].text |
保障另以法律定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].start |
13750.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].end |
13752.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].text |
並得依族群意願及歷史文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].start |
13752.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].end |
13754.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].text |
完整性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].start |
13754.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].end |
13756.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].text |
足足分別推動認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].start |
13756.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].end |
13758.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].text |
委員郭國文等十六人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].start |
13758.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].end |
13760.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].text |
第一項序文修正為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].start |
13760.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].end |
13762.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].text |
本法首參原住民包括山地原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].start |
13762.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].end |
13764.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].text |
平地原住民及平埔原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].start |
13764.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].end |
13766.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].text |
其身份之認定除本法另有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].start |
13766.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].end |
13768.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].text |
規定外一下列規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].start |
13768.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].end |
13770.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].text |
第一款及第二款未修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].start |
13770.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].end |
13772.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].text |
增訂第一項第三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].start |
13772.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].end |
13774.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].text |
三平埔原住民本人或直系血清 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].start |
13774.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].end |
13776.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].text |
專清署屬於台灣光復前原籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].start |
13776.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].end |
13778.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].text |
在平地行政區域內 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].start |
13778.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].end |
13780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].text |
且戶口調查部登記屬於原住民者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].start |
13780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].end |
13782.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].text |
或有客觀歷史記錄可佐證其為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].start |
13782.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].end |
13784.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].text |
台灣南島羽系民族者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].start |
13784.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].end |
13786.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].text |
增訂第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].start |
13786.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].end |
13788.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].text |
平埔原住民之原住民族集體權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].start |
13788.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].end |
13790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].text |
如原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].start |
13790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].end |
13792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].text |
應及適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].start |
13792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].end |
13794.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].text |
平埔原住民之個人權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].start |
13794.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].end |
13796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].text |
得依階段適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].start |
13796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].end |
13798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].text |
部分未能及時適用者因此本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].start |
13798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].end |
13800.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].text |
施行後一年內完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].start |
13800.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].end |
13802.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].text |
修法預期未完成者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].start |
13802.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].end |
13804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].text |
直接適用現行原住民相關法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].start |
13804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].end |
13806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].text |
第三條委員吳立華等18人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].start |
13806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].end |
13808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].text |
增訂第一項第四款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].start |
13808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].end |
13810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].text |
四 據前條同屬南島羽系民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].start |
13810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].end |
13812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].text |
之其他台灣原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].start |
13812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].end |
13814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].text |
身份要件事實者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].start |
13814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].end |
13816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].text |
其本人及直系血清專清署 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].start |
13816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].end |
13818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].text |
取用所屬原住民族之傳統名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].start |
13818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].end |
13820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].text |
或取用漢人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].start |
13820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].end |
13822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].text |
姓名並與原住民族文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].start |
13822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].end |
13824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].text |
並列所屬原住民族之姓名 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].start |
13824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].end |
13826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].text |
該姓名得依原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].start |
13826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].end |
13828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].text |
姓名文化沿用或創製 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].start |
13828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].end |
13830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].text |
其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].start |
13830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].end |
13832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].text |
委員郭國文等16人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].start |
13832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].end |
13834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].text |
第四條委員吳立華等18人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].start |
13834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].end |
13836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].text |
增訂第一項第四款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].start |
13836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].end |
13838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].text |
四 據本法第二條平譜原住民身份要件事實者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].start |
13838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].end |
13840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].text |
其本人及直系血清專清署 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].start |
13840.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].end |
13842.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].text |
及其直系血清杯清署 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].start |
13842.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].end |
13844.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].text |
取用所屬原住民族之傳統名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].start |
13844.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].end |
13846.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].text |
或取用漢人姓名 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].start |
13846.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].end |
13848.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].text |
並與原住民族文字並列 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].start |
13848.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].end |
13850.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].text |
其所屬原住民族之姓名 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].start |
13850.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].end |
13852.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].text |
該姓名得依原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].start |
13852.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].end |
13854.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].text |
姓名文化沿用或創製 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].start |
13854.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].end |
13856.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].text |
其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].start |
13856.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].end |
13858.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].text |
四 委員郭國文等16人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].start |
13858.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].end |
13860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].text |
本條內容未修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].start |
13860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].end |
13862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].text |
委員盧憲一等17人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].start |
13862.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].end |
13864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].text |
第一項續文修正為非原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].start |
13864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].end |
13866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].text |
精無子女前後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].start |
13866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].end |
13868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].text |
且婚後三年未能自然受孕 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].start |
13868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].end |
13870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].text |
或經醫療機構診斷為不孕之 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].start |
13870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].end |
13872.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].text |
原住民雙親共同收養 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].start |
13872.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].end |
13874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].text |
且符合下列各款規定者取得原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].start |
13874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].end |
13876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].text |
第二項刪除需年滿40歲之文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].start |
13876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].end |
13878.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].text |
其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].start |
13878.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].end |
13880.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].text |
第五條委員吳立華等18人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].start |
13880.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].end |
13882.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].text |
委員郭國文等16人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].start |
13882.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].end |
13884.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].text |
刪除第一項第四款及第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].start |
13884.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].end |
13886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].text |
其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].start |
13886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].end |
13888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].text |
委員陳瑩等16人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].start |
13888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].end |
13890.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].text |
增訂第四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].start |
13890.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].end |
13892.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].text |
依第一項第四款規定上司原住民身份者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].start |
13892.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].end |
13894.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].text |
自本法全年全月簽日修正施行後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].start |
13894.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].end |
13896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].text |
原住民身份不上司 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].start |
13896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].end |
13898.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].text |
其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].start |
13898.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].end |
13900.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].text |
第六條委員郭國文等16人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].start |
13900.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].end |
13902.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].text |
第一項刪除或 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].start |
13902.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].end |
13904.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].text |
重拒原住民身份之父或母之姓等文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].start |
13904.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].end |
13906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].text |
另刪除第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].start |
13906.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].end |
13908.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].text |
其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].start |
13908.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].end |
13910.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].text |
第七條委員吳立華等18人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].start |
13910.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].end |
13912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].text |
委員郭國文等16人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].start |
13912.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].end |
13914.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].text |
刪除第七條委員曾天才等20人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].start |
13914.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].end |
13916.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].text |
委員黃仁等18人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].start |
13916.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].end |
13918.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].text |
第七項第七條末段子女修正為直系血親背親屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].start |
13918.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].end |
13920.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].text |
其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].start |
13920.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].end |
13922.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].text |
委員吳立華等18人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].start |
13922.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].end |
13924.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].text |
增訂第二項得依第三條第一項規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].start |
13924.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].end |
13926.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].text |
申請取用或以原住民族文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].start |
13926.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].end |
13928.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].text |
並列原住民族傳統名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].start |
13928.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].end |
13932.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].text |
或從居原住民身份之父或母之姓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].start |
13932.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].end |
13934.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].text |
而取得原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].start |
13934.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].end |
13936.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].text |
於本法中華民國全年全月全日 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].start |
13936.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].end |
13938.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].text |
修正施行前死亡者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].start |
13938.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].end |
13940.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].text |
其子女准用第三條及前條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].start |
13940.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].end |
13942.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].text |
規定取用原住民族傳統名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].start |
13942.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].end |
13944.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].text |
取得原住民身份其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].start |
13944.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].end |
13945.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].text |
其餘同線情條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].start |
13945.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].end |
13947.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].text |
第八條委員吳麗華等18人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].start |
13947.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].end |
13948.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].text |
第一項修正為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].start |
13948.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].end |
13952.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].text |
三地行政區原住民與平地行政區原住民結婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].start |
13952.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].end |
13955.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].text |
的約定變更為相同之三地行政區原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].start |
13955.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].end |
13958.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].text |
或平地行政區原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].start |
13958.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].end |
13959.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].text |
其子女之身份從之 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].start |
13959.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].end |
13961.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].text |
第二項末段修正為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].start |
13961.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].end |
13965.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].text |
取得三地行政區原住民或平地行政區原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].start |
13965.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].end |
13971.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].text |
其餘同線情條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].start |
13971.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].end |
13973.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].text |
委員郭國文等16人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].start |
13973.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].end |
13975.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].text |
請刪除線情條文第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].start |
13975.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].end |
13977.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].text |
線情條文第八條至第十二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].start |
13977.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].end |
13980.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].text |
條次變更為第七條至第十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].start |
13980.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].end |
13982.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].text |
修正條文第七條內容修正為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].start |
13982.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].end |
13985.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].text |
三地原住民、平地原住民與平埔原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].start |
13985.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].end |
13987.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].text |
跨身份結婚的約定變更為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].start |
13987.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].end |
13988.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].text |
相同之原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].start |
13988.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].end |
13990.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].text |
其子女之身份從之 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].start |
13990.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].end |
13991.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].text |
位議前項約定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].start |
13991.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].end |
13993.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].text |
變更為相同原住民身份者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].start |
13993.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].end |
13995.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].text |
其子女於未成年時的有法定代理人協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].start |
13995.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].end |
13998.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].text |
選定其原住民身份成年後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].start |
13998.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].end |
14000 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].text |
得以其個人意願選擇取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].start |
14000 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].end |
14003.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].text |
三地原住民、平地原住民或平埔原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].start |
14004 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].end |
14006.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].text |
第十一條委員林怡錦等22人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].start |
14006.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].end |
14007.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].text |
第一項末段修正為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].start |
14007.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].end |
14010.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].text |
或由當事人相互證事務所申請查明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].start |
14010.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].end |
14011.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].text |
並為撤銷或更正這登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].start |
14011.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].end |
14013.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].text |
刪除戶籍所在地等文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].start |
14013.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].end |
14014.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].text |
增訂第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].start |
14014.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].end |
14016.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].text |
經中央主管機關公告承認至原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].start |
14016.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].end |
14018.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].text |
主其熟人及其直系血清飛行署 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].start |
14018.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].end |
14021.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].text |
因政府限定登記期間或其他歷史因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].start |
14021.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].end |
14023.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].text |
至漏位登記為原住民身份者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].start |
14023.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].end |
14025.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].text |
得檢去相關證明文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].start |
14025.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].end |
14026.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].text |
相互證事務所申請查明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].start |
14026.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].end |
14029.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].text |
並為更正這登記已取得原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].start |
14029.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].end |
14031.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].text |
其餘同線情條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].start |
14031.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].end |
14033.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].text |
委員高欽素梅等17人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].start |
14033.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].end |
14034.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].text |
刪除第十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].start |
14038.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].end |
14041 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].text |
原住民身份法第二條修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].start |
14041 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].end |
14042.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].text |
第二條本法所稱原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].start |
14042.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].end |
14044.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].text |
包含3D原住民及平地原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].start |
14044.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].end |
14045.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].text |
其身份之認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].start |
14045.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].end |
14047.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].text |
除本法另有規定外溢下列規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].start |
14047.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].end |
14049.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].text |
依3D原住民台灣光復前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].start |
14049.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].end |
14050.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].text |
員級在3D行政區域內 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].start |
14050.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].end |
14052.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].text |
且日治時期戶口調查部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].start |
14052.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].end |
14054.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].text |
登記其本人或直系血清專金屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].start |
14054.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].end |
14057.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].text |
屬於身、身、翻或高殺族的二 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].start |
14057.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].end |
14058.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].text |
平地原住民台灣光復前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].start |
14058.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].end |
14060.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].text |
員級在平定時任區域內 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].start |
14060.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].end |
14062.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].text |
且日治時期戶口調查部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].start |
14062.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].end |
14064.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].text |
登記其本人或直系血清專金屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].start |
14064.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].end |
14066.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].text |
屬於身、身、翻、沒或高殺族者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].start |
14066.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].end |
14068.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].text |
但於台灣省政府辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].start |
14068.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].end |
14070 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].text |
平地三包登記期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].start |
14070 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].end |
14072.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].text |
向鄉鎮市區公所申請登記有案者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].start |
14072.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].end |
14073.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].text |
易屬之 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].start |
14073.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].end |
14075.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].text |
提案人王宏威等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].start |
14077.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].end |
14079.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].text |
原住民族基本法第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].start |
14079.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].end |
14081 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].text |
委員吳麗華等17人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].start |
14081 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].end |
14082.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].text |
第一款增列薩奇拉雅族 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].start |
14082.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].end |
14085.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].text |
賽德克族拉阿魯瓦族 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].start |
14085.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].end |
14088.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].text |
卡納卡納婦族其餘同線情條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].start |
14088.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].end |
14089.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].text |
委員林一景等18人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].start |
14089.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].end |
14091.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].text |
第一款修正為原住民族系子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].start |
14091.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].end |
14095.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].text |
所有寄存於台灣而為國家管轄內支 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].start |
14095.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].end |
14097.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].text |
傳統台灣南島語系民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].start |
14097.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].end |
14099.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].text |
包括所有依原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].start |
14099.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].end |
14101.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].text |
及平埔原住民族群身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].start |
14101.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].end |
14104.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].text |
取得身份之民族及其成員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].start |
14104.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].end |
14105.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].text |
及其他自認為原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].start |
14105.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].end |
14108.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].text |
並經中央原住民族主管機關報請 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].start |
14108.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].end |
14110 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].text |
實驗院和定制民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].start |
14110 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].end |
14111.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].text |
其餘同線情條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].start |
14111.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].end |
14113.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].text |
增訂第二條至二 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].start |
14113.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].end |
14115.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].text |
委員吳麗華等17人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].start |
14115.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].end |
14117.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].text |
訂定8月1日為原住民族日 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].start |
14117.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].end |
14119.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].text |
以彰顯原住民族正名之歷史意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].start |
14119.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].end |
14121.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].text |
尊重原住民族地位與權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].start |
14121.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].end |
14126.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].text |
促進各族認識原住民族文化價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].start |
14126.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].end |
14128.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].text |
第八條委員吳麗華等17人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].start |
14128.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].end |
14130.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].text |
第一項修正為職家室 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].start |
14130.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].end |
14132.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].text |
狹有原住民族地區資 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].start |
14132.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].end |
14135.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].text |
縣籍原住民社籍人數達1500人以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].start |
14135.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].end |
14138.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].text |
至縣市其支家市縣政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].start |
14138.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].end |
14140.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].text |
因設原住民族專責機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].start |
14140.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].end |
14141.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].text |
辦理原住民族事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].start |
14141.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].end |
14143.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].text |
其餘至縣市政府的是實際需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].start |
14143.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].end |
14146.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].text |
設原住民族專責單位或專制人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].start |
14147.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].end |
14150.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].text |
辦理原住民族事務其餘同縣行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].start |
14150.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].end |
14152.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].text |
第十四條委員吳麗華等17人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].start |
14152.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].end |
14153.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].text |
增列第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].start |
14153.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].end |
14156.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].text |
政府應促進原住民數位平權 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].start |
14156.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].end |
14158.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].text |
支持原住民提升科技素養 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].start |
14158.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].end |
14159.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].text |
培育科技領域人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].start |
14159.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].end |
14162.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].text |
促進原住民享有學習新興科技機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].start |
14162.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].end |
14164.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].text |
並鼓勵原住民善用前瞻科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].start |
14164.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].end |
14166.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].text |
以創造社會福祉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].start |
14166.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].end |
14167.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].text |
其餘同縣行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].start |
14167.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].end |
14169.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].text |
第十九條委員吳麗華等17人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].start |
14169.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].end |
14173.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].text |
第一項序文前段新增知土地基河川 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].start |
14173.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].end |
14175.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].text |
第一項第三款新增漂流母 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].start |
14175.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].end |
14177.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].text |
其餘同縣行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].start |
14177.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].end |
14179.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].text |
第21條委員吳麗華等17人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].start |
14179.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].end |
14181.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].text |
第一項及第四項刪除公有二字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].start |
14181.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].end |
14184.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].text |
第四項二段修正為所生之損失補償等事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].start |
14184.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].end |
14187.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].text |
另以法律訂知其餘同縣行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].start |
14187.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].end |
14188.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].text |
委員吳麗華等21人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].start |
14188.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].end |
14190.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].text |
第一項修正為政府或私人於 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].start |
14190.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].end |
14193.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].text |
原住民族土地內從事土地開發資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].start |
14193.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].end |
14195.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].text |
利用生態保育及學術研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].start |
14195.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].end |
14199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].text |
因資商並取得原住民族或部落同意或參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].start |
14199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].end |
14201.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].text |
原住民的分享相關利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].start |
14201.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].end |
14203.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].text |
第四項刪除或部落及其 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].start |
14203.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].end |
14205.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].text |
及周邊一定範圍內之公有土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].start |
14205.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].end |
14207.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].text |
增訂第五項前項提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].start |
14207.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].end |
14209.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].text |
經部落否決者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].start |
14209.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].end |
14211.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].text |
自該否決之日期兩年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].start |
14211.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].end |
14214.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].text |
不得就該事項重新提出其餘同縣行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].start |
14214.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].end |
14215.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].text |
增訂第21條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].start |
14215.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].end |
14217.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].text |
委員吳麗華等21人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6339].start |
14217.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6339].end |
14220.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6339].text |
以強暴脅迫或其他非法之方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6340].start |
14220.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6340].end |
14224.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6340].text |
妨礙他人為資商取得原住民族部落同意之 |
| transcript.whisperx[6341].start |
14224.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6341].end |
14226.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6341].text |
提案撤回提案連署或投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[6342].start |
14226.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6342].end |
14229.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6342].text |
或使他人為投票案之提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6343].start |
14229.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6343].end |
14230.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6343].text |
撤回提案連署或投票者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].start |
14230.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].end |
14234.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].text |
除五年以下有其徒刑前項之未遂犯法之 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].start |
14234.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].end |
14236.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].text |
增訂第21條之二 |
| transcript.whisperx[6346].start |
14236.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6346].end |
14238.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6346].text |
委員吳麗華的21人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].start |
14238.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].end |
14241.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].text |
自原住民鄉鎮市區公所發布資商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].start |
14241.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].end |
14243.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].text |
取得原住民族部落同意之投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].start |
14243.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].end |
14245.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].text |
案投票公告日期 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].start |
14245.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].end |
14247.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].text |
對於有投票權之人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].start |
14248.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].end |
14252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].text |
行求契約或交付賄賂或其他不正利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].start |
14252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].end |
14255.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].text |
而約其不行使投票權或為一定之刑使者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].start |
14255.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].end |
14257.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].text |
處一年以下七年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].start |
14257.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].end |
14259.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].text |
一年以上七年以下有其徒刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].start |
14259.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].end |
14262.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].text |
得併科新台幣六十萬元以上六百萬元以下罰金 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].start |
14262.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].end |
14264.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].text |
預備犯前項之罪者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6357].start |
14264.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6357].end |
14265.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6357].text |
處一年以下有其徒刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6358].start |
14265.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6358].end |
14269.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6358].text |
預備或用以行求契約或交付之賄賂 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].start |
14269.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].end |
14272.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].text |
不問屬於犯人與否沒收之 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].start |
14272.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].end |
14274.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].text |
如權術或一部不能沒收時 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].start |
14274.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].end |
14276.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].text |
追徵其價額 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].start |
14276.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].end |
14278.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].text |
犯第一項或第二項之罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].start |
14278.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].end |
14280.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].text |
於犯罪後六個月內自首者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].start |
14280.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].end |
14282.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].text |
減輕或免除其刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].start |
14282.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].end |
14285.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].text |
因而查獲提案人為共犯者免除其刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].start |
14285.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].end |
14287.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].text |
犯第一項或第二項之罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].start |
14287.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].end |
14289.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].text |
在偵查中自白者減輕其刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].start |
14289.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].end |
14291.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].text |
因而查獲提案人為共犯者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].start |
14291.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].end |
14292.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].text |
減輕或免除其刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].start |
14292.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].end |
14293.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].start |
14321.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].end |
14323.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].text |
請問有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].start |
14323.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].end |
14325.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].start |
14325.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].end |
14327.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].text |
請問有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].start |
14327.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].end |
14329.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].start |
14329.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].end |
14331.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].text |
請問有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].start |
14331.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].end |
14333.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].start |
14333.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].end |
14335.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].text |
請問有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].start |
14335.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].end |
14337.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].start |
14337.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].end |
14339.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].text |
請問有關此案的事項 |
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14339.36 |
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會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].start |
14555.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].end |
14557.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].start |
14557.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].end |
14559.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].start |
14559.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].end |
14561.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].start |
14561.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].end |
14563.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].start |
14563.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].end |
14565.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].start |
14565.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].end |
14567.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].start |
14567.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].end |
14569.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].start |
14569.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].end |
14571.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].start |
14571.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].end |
14573.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].start |
14573.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].end |
14575.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].start |
14575.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].end |
14577.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].start |
14577.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].end |
14579.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].start |
14579.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].end |
14581.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].start |
14581.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].end |
14583.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].start |
14583.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].end |
14585.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].start |
14585.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].end |
14587.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].start |
14587.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].end |
14589.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].start |
14589.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].end |
14591.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].start |
14591.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].end |
14593.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].start |
14593.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].end |
14595.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].start |
14595.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].end |
14597.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].start |
14597.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].end |
14599.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].start |
14599.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].end |
14601.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].text |
會否有關此案的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].start |
14601.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].end |
14603.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].text |
原住民族委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].start |
14613.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].end |
14615.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].text |
來 各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].start |
14615.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].end |
14617.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].text |
我覺得原住民族身分法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].start |
14617.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].end |
14619.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].text |
這個有一段時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].start |
14619.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].end |
14621.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].text |
當然也不能拖 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].start |
14621.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].end |
14623.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].text |
不過我們今天這個法案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].start |
14623.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].end |
14625.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].text |
有關平埔族的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].start |
14625.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].end |
14627.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].text |
其實已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].start |
14627.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].end |
14629.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].text |
另有法令了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].start |
14629.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].end |
14631.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].text |
今天是不是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].start |
14631.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].end |
14635.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].text |
先處理把有關平埔族的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].start |
14635.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].end |
14637.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].text |
我們就不予處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].start |
14637.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].end |
14639.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].text |
把它確定 不予處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].start |
14639.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].end |
14641.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].text |
那另外呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].start |
14641.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].end |
14643.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].text |
因為把它不予處理之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].start |
14643.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].end |
14645.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].text |
可能有些法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].start |
14645.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].end |
14647.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].text |
還有條次什麼都要變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].start |
14647.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].end |
14649.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].text |
都要那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].start |
14649.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].end |
14651.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].text |
我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].start |
14651.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].end |
14653.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].text |
原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].start |
14653.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].end |
14655.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].text |
能夠在開議的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].start |
14655.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].end |
14657.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].text |
校會級開議的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].start |
14657.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].end |
14659.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].text |
把你們所有的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].start |
14659.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].end |
14661.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].text |
重新整理好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].start |
14661.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].end |
14663.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].text |
然後給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].start |
14663.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].end |
14665.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].text |
重新送來給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].start |
14665.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].end |
14667.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].text |
然後我們校會級一開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].start |
14667.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].end |
14669.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].text |
我們就可以馬上處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].start |
14669.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].end |
14671.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].text |
這樣子我徵求大家的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].start |
14671.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].end |
14673.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].text |
這樣子我們內政委員會可以馬上處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].start |
14673.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].end |
14675.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].text |
不知道好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].start |
14675.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].end |
14677.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].text |
什麼先確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].start |
14677.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].end |
14679.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].text |
確認跟平埔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].start |
14679.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].end |
14681.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].start |
14681.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].end |
14683.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].text |
也不用確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].start |
14683.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].end |
14685.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].text |
就是我如果這個大家都同意的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].start |
14685.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].end |
14687.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].text |
我們就做這個決議了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].start |
14687.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].end |
14689.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].text |
就另期再審了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].start |
14689.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].end |
14691.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].text |
就是校會期前他們一定要把那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].start |
14691.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].end |
14693.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].text |
修正好的來給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].start |
14693.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].end |
14695.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].text |
然後我們校會期就馬上就審了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].start |
14695.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].end |
14697.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].text |
這樣才能節省時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].start |
14697.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].end |
14699.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].text |
今天也不會拖太久 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].start |
14699.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].end |
14701.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].text |
我覺得如果大家同意的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].start |
14701.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].end |
14703.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].text |
主席你就這樣宣布的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].start |
14703.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].end |
14705.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].text |
我們就這樣處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].start |
14705.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].end |
14707.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].text |
好 確認有沒有委員想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].start |
14707.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].end |
14709.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].text |
做比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].start |
14709.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].end |
14711.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].text |
廣泛的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].start |
14711.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].end |
14713.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].text |
還是就照剛剛洪祿委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].start |
14713.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].end |
14715.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].text |
我們另擇期處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].start |
14717.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].end |
14719.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].text |
我補充了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].start |
14719.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].end |
14721.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].text |
補充洪祿委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].start |
14721.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].end |
14723.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].text |
謝謝洪祿委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].start |
14723.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].end |
14725.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].text |
我補充就是說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].start |
14725.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].end |
14727.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].text |
哪些條文是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].start |
14727.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].end |
14729.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].text |
屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].start |
14729.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].end |
14731.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].text |
跟平埔有關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].start |
14731.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].end |
14733.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].text |
那因為已經有另外一個法律了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].start |
14733.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].end |
14735.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].text |
就不予處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].start |
14735.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].end |
14737.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].text |
就跟洪祿剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].start |
14737.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].end |
14739.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].text |
第二個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].start |
14739.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].end |
14741.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].text |
其他的跟平埔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].start |
14741.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].end |
14743.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].text |
無關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].start |
14743.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].end |
14745.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].text |
但是是要修 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].start |
14745.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].end |
14747.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].text |
現在的原住民身份法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].start |
14747.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].end |
14749.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].text |
那個需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].start |
14749.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].end |
14751.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].text |
怎麼樣去做修正的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].start |
14751.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].end |
14753.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].text |
就按照剛才洪祿講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].start |
14753.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].end |
14755.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].text |
9月1號以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].start |
14755.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].end |
14757.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].text |
把修正的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].start |
14757.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].end |
14759.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].text |
先檢視好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].start |
14759.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].end |
14761.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].text |
下次 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].start |
14761.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].end |
14763.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].text |
開會的時候這樣會比較順利 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].start |
14763.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].end |
14765.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].start |
14765.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].end |
14767.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].text |
這個意思嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].start |
14767.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].end |
14769.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].text |
好 那還有委員有要發言嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].start |
14769.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].end |
14771.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].start |
14771.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].end |
14773.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].text |
沒有 好 那我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].start |
14773.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].end |
14775.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].text |
這個協商共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].start |
14775.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].end |
14777.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].start |
14777.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].end |
14779.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].text |
原住民身份法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].start |
14779.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].end |
14781.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].text |
那就請原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].start |
14781.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].end |
14783.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].text |
9月之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].start |
14783.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].end |
14785.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].text |
把你們的方案提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].start |
14785.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].end |
14787.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].text |
跟委員討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].start |
14787.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].end |
14789.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].text |
我們就下個會期盡快 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].start |
14789.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].end |
14791.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].text |
繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].start |
14791.36 |
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14793.36 |
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那第二個部分 |
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14793.36 |
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14795.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].text |
原住民族基本法的部分 |
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14795.36 |
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14797.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].text |
是不是也是 |
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14797.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].end |
14799.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].text |
再跟委員多多討論 |
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14799.36 |
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14801.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].text |
然後軍令 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].start |
14801.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].end |
14803.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].text |
定期繼續審查這樣 |
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14803.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].end |
14805.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].text |
可以嗎 可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].start |
14805.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].end |
14807.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].text |
好 那我就回去宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].start |
14807.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].end |
14809.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].start |
14827.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].end |
14829.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].text |
好 |
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14829.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].end |
14831.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].text |
做一下決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].start |
14831.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].end |
14833.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].text |
討論事項所列議案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].start |
14833.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].end |
14835.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].text |
軍令定期繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].start |
14835.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].end |
14837.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].text |
本次會議到此結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].start |
14837.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].end |
14839.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].text |
現在上會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].start |
14839.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].end |
14841.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].start |
14841.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].end |
14843.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].start |
14857.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].end |
14859.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].start |
14887.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].end |
14889.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].start |
14917.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].end |
14919.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].start |
14947.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].end |
14949.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].start |
14977.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].end |
14979.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].start |
15007.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].end |
15009.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].start |
15009.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].end |
15011.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].start |
15011.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].end |
15013.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].start |
15013.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].end |
15015.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].start |
15015.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].end |
15017.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].start |
15017.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].end |
15019.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].start |
15019.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].end |
15021.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].start |
15021.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].end |
15023.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].start |
15023.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].end |
15025.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].start |
15025.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].end |
15027.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].start |
15027.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].end |
15029.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].start |
15029.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].end |
15031.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].start |
15031.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].end |
15033.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].start |
15033.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].end |
15035.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].start |
15035.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].end |
15037.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].start |
15037.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].end |
15039.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].start |
15039.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].end |
15041.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].start |
15041.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].end |
15043.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].start |
15043.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].end |
15045.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].start |
15045.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].end |
15047.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].start |
15047.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].end |
15049.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].start |
15049.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].end |
15051.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].start |
15051.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].end |
15053.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].start |
15053.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].end |
15055.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].start |
15055.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].end |
15057.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].start |
15057.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].end |
15059.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].start |
15059.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].end |
15061.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].start |
15061.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].end |
15063.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].start |
15063.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].end |
15065.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].start |
15065.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].end |
15067.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].start |
15067.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].end |
15069.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].start |
15069.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].end |
15071.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].start |
15071.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].end |
15073.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].start |
15073.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].end |
15075.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].start |
15075.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].end |
15077.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].start |
15077.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].end |
15079.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].start |
15079.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].end |
15081.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].start |
15081.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].end |
15083.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].start |
15083.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].end |
15085.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].start |
15085.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].end |
15087.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].start |
15087.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].end |
15089.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].start |
15089.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].end |
15091.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].start |
15091.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].end |
15093.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].start |
15093.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].end |
15095.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].start |
15095.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].end |
15097.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].start |
15097.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].end |
15099.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].start |
15099.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].end |
15101.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].start |
15101.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].end |
15103.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].start |
15103.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].end |
15105.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].start |
15105.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].end |
15107.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].start |
15107.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].end |
15109.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].start |
15109.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].end |
15111.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].start |
15111.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].end |
15113.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].start |
15113.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].end |
15115.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].start |
15115.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].end |
15117.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].text |
Bye Bye |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].start |
15117.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].end |
15119.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].text |
Bye Bye |