| IVOD_ID |
17633 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17633 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
21 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-30T08:31:03+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-30T12:39:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
04:07:57 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/eeffa975d6a1e3ea36c9025ded6a2485d6a76734f73991829c076e573ffc041275b6ce8f2d5775b95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請原住民族委員會主任委員、文化部、國家通訊傳播委員會、財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會就「『海路－南島語族航海計畫』、『國際原住民族傳統競技文化交流族語節目（世界原住民族傳統運動會）』、『原住民族廣播電臺訊源傳輸及監控系統設備建置與相關基地台設置』等重大計畫執行進度、經費運用及成果認定檢討」進行專題報告，並備質詢。二、「原住民身分法」等11案：(一)繼續審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等18人擬具「原住民身分法第二條條文修正草案」案。(二)繼續審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等18人擬具「原住民身分法部分條文修正草案」案。(三)繼續審查委員郭國文等16人擬具「原住民身分法修正草案」案。(四)繼續審查委員林宜瑾等22人擬具「原住民身分法第十一條條文修正草案」案。(五)繼續審查委員高金素梅等17人擬具「原住民身分法刪除第十一條條文草案」案。(六)繼續審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等20人擬具「原住民身分法第七條條文修正草案」案。(七)審查委員黃仁等19人擬具「原住民身分法第二條條文修正草案」案。(八)審查委員黃仁等18人擬具「原住民身分法第七條條文修正草案」案。(九)審查委員盧縣一等17人擬具「原住民身分法第四條條文修正草案」案。(十)審查委員陳瑩等16人擬具「原住民身分法第五條條文修正草案」案。(十一)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等18人擬具「原住民身分法第七條條文修正草案」案。三、「原住民族基本法」等15案：(一)繼續審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具「原住民族基本法增訂第二條之二條文草案」案。(二)繼續審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等17人擬具「原住民族基本法第二十一條條文修正草案」案。(三)繼續審查委員高金素梅等21人擬具「原住民族基本法部分條文修正草案」案。(四)繼續審查委員黃仁等30人擬具「原住民族基本法第十九條條文修正草案」案。(五)繼續審查委員黃仁等26人擬具「原住民族基本法第十五條條文修正草案」案。(六)繼續審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等18人擬具「原住民族基本法增訂第六條之一條文草案」案。(七)繼續審查委員黃仁等20人擬具「原住民族基本法增訂第二十八條之一條文草案」案。(八)繼續審查委員黃仁等22人擬具「原住民族基本法第十條條文修正草案」案。(九)繼續審查委員黃仁等21人擬具「原住民族基本法第六條條文修正草案」案。(十)繼續審查委員高金素梅等20人擬具「原住民族基本法第十八條條文修正草案」案。(十一)繼續審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具「原住民族基本法第十八條條文修正草案」案。(十二)繼續審查委員盧縣一等18人擬具「原住民族基本法部分條文修正草案」案。(十三)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等17人擬具「原住民族基本法部分條文修正草案」案。(十四)審查委員林宜瑾等18人擬具「原住民族基本法第二條條文修正草案」案。(十五)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等21人擬具「原住民族基本法第二十一條、第二十一條之一及第二十一條之二條文修正草案」案。【法案進行逐條審查】） |
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1847.02 |
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大陸委員會主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
1847.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
1847.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
邱垂政 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
1847.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
1849.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
內政部部長劉世芳 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
1849.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
1850.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
及相關人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
1850.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
1853.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
財團法人海峽交流基金會副董事長兼秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
1853.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
1854.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
羅文嘉 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
1854.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
1855.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
及相關人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
1855.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
1856.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
主席廖昭吉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
1856.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
1858.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
先詳報告事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
1858.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
1859.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
1859.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
1862.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
二邀請大陸委員會主任委員內政部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
1862.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
1863.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
1863.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
1864.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
警政署 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
1864.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
1864.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
移民署 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
1864.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
1867.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
財團法人海峽交流基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
1867.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
1870.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
就國人附錄失聯情況及政府因應作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
1870.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
1871.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
進行專題報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
1871.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
1872.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
並被質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
1872.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
1873.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
三邀請內政部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
1873.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
1875.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
警政署署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
1875.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
1875.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
就萊爾校長 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
1875.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
1878.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
小編遭警突襲查水表事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
1878.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
1881.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
檢視警察執法標準與行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
1881.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1882.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
進行專題報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
1882.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
1883.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
並被質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
1883.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1884.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
報告事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
1884.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
1885.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
並詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1885.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1886.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
大陸委員會主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
1886.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
1887.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
邱垂政 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1887.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1888.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
內政部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
1888.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1889.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
劉世芳報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
1889.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1891.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
委員許中信等15人質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
1891.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1893.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
分別由大陸委員會主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
1893.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1895.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
邱垂政內政部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
1895.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1896.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
劉世芳及相關人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
1896.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1899.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
財團法人海峽交流基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1899.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
1901.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
副董事長兼秘書長羅文嘉 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
1901.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
1902.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
答復說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
1902.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
1905.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
決定一登記發言委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
1905.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1906.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
除不在場者外 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
1906.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
1907.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
其餘均已發言完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
1907.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1909.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
詢答結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
1909.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1909.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
二委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
1909.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1910.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
網美會 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
1910.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1910.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
張志倫 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
1910.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1911.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
高金素美 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
1911.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1912.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
吳宗憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
1912.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1912.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
林德福 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
1912.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1913.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
徐欣瑩等6人 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1913.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1916.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
所提書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
1916.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1918.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
三書面質詢及未及答復部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1918.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1920.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
請相關機關與一周內另以書面答復 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
1920.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1922.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
並複製本會 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1922.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1922.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1924.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1925.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
請問各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1925.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1927.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
上次會議失誤有無錯誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1928.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1929.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
無錯誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1929.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1930.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
疑似錄確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1931.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1933.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
繼續進行報告事項及討論事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1933.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1933.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1934.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1935.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
報告事項二 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1935.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1938.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
邀請原住民族委員會主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1938.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1941.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
文化部國家通訊傳播委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1941.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1942.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
財團法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1942.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1944.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
原住民族文化事業基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
1944.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1947.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
舊海陸南島宇族航海計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
1947.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
1949.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
國際原住民族傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
1949.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1951.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
競技文化交流族羽節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
1951.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1953.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
世界原住民族傳統運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
1953.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1956.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
原住民族廣播電台訊源傳輸 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
1956.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1958.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
及監控系統設備建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1958.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1961.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
與相關基地台設置等重大計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
1961.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1963.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
執行進度經費運用及成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1963.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1964.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
認定檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1964.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
1966.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
進行專題報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
1966.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
1967.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
並被質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
1967.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
1968.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
討論事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
1968.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
1968.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
一 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
1968.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
1971.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
原住民身份法等11案 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
1971.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
1973.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
繼續審查委員鄭天才等18人 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
1973.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
1975.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
擬具原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
1975.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
1977.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
第二條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
1977.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
1979.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
繼續審查委員吳立華等18人 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
1979.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
1980.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
擬具原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
1980.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
1982.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
部分條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
1982.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
1984.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
繼續審查郭國文等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
1984.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
1987.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
擬具原住民身份法修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
1987.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
1989.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
繼續審查委員林一景等22人 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
1989.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
1990.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
擬具原住民身份法等 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
1990.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
1992.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
11條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
1992.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
1994.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
繼續審查委員高晶素美等17人 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
1994.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
1996.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
擬具原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
1996.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
1998.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
刪除第11條條文草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
1998.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
2001.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
繼續審查委員鄭天才等20人 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
2001.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
2003.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
擬具原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
2003.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
2005.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
第7條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
2005.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
2007.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
審查委員黃仁等19人 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
2007.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
2009.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
擬具原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
2009.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
2011.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
第二條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
2011.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
2012.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
審查委員黃仁等18人 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
2012.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
2014.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
擬具原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
2014.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
2016.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
第7條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
2016.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
2018.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
審查委員盧憲一等17人 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
2018.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
2019.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
擬具原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
2019.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
2021.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
第4條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
2021.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
2023.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
審查委員陳瑩等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
2023.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
2024.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
擬具原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
2024.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
2026.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
第5條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
2026.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
2028.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
審查委員吳立華等18人 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
2028.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
2030.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
擬具原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
2030.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
2032.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
第7條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
2033.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
2036.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
原住民基本法等15案 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
2036.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
2038.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
1繼續審查委員吳立華等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
2038.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
2040.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
擬具原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
2040.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
2042.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
增訂第二條-二條文草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
2042.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
2044.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
繼續審查委員吳立華等17人 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
2044.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
2046.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
擬具原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
2046.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
2049.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
第21條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
2049.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
2052.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
繼續審查委員高晶素梅等21人 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
2052.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
2053.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
擬具原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
2053.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
2055.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
部分條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
2055.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
2058.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
繼續審查委員黃仁等30人 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
2058.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
2059.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
擬具原住民基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
2059.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
2062.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
第19條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
2062.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
2064.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
繼續審查委員黃仁等26人 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
2064.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
2066.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
擬具原住民基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
2066.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
2068.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
第15條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
2068.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
2071.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
繼續審查委員鄭天才等18人 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
2071.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
2072.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
擬具原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
2073.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
2075.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
增訂第6條-1條文草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
2075.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
2078.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
繼續審查委員黃仁等20人 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
2078.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
2079.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
擬具原住民基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
2079.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
2082.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
增訂第28條-1條文草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
2082.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
2084.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
繼續審查委員黃仁等22人 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
2084.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
2086.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
擬具原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
2086.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
2088.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
第10條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
2089.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
2091.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
繼續審查委員黃仁等21人 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
2091.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
2093.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
擬具原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
2093.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
2095.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
第6條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
2095.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
2098.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
繼續審查委員高靖素梅等20人 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
2098.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
2099.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
擬具原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
2100.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
2102.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
第18條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
2102.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
2105.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
繼續審查委員鄭天才等17人 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
2105.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
2107.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
擬具原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
2107.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
2109.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
第18條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
2109.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
2111.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
繼續審查委員盧憲一等18人 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
2111.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
2112.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
擬具原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
2112.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
2114.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
部分條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
2114.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2116.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
審查委員吳立華等17人 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
2116.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
2118.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
擬具原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
2118.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
2120.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
部分條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
2120.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
2122.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
審查委員林一靖等18人 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
2122.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
2123.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
擬具原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
2123.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
2125.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
第2條條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
2125.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
2127.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
審查委員吳立華等21人 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
2127.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
2129.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
擬具原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
2129.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
2130.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
第21條 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
2130.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
2135.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
第21條至1及第22條至2條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
2135.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
2135.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
2138.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2140.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
本次議程報告事項與討論事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
2140.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
2141.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
合併詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
2141.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
2144.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
現在介紹在場委員及列席官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
2144.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2145.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
首先介紹王美慧委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
2145.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
2147.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
大家好 大家好 讚 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
2147.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
2148.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
吳其銘委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
2150.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2151.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
蘇小慧委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
2152.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2155.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
我們介紹列席官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
2155.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2159.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
又到了袁明宇的教學時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
2159.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
2164.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
我們原住民族常務副主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
2166.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
2168.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
還有我們裁斷法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
2168.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2172.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
原住民族文化事業基金會董事長馬羅斯 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
2173.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2176.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
其餘官員請自行參閱 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
2177.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2180.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
那我們是不是就不進行提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
2181.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
2185.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
2186.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
好 現在進行報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
2186.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
2190.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
請我們原住民族委員會副主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
2190.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2191.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
RW報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
2196.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2198.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
兩項專題報告及討論事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
2198.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2199.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
所列法人請一併報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
2201.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2202.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
主席各位委員先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
2202.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2204.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
今日受邀 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
2204.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2206.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
海陸南島語族航海計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
2207.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2209.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
國際原住民族傳統競技文化交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
2211.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2217.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
以及原住民族廣播電台訊源傳輸及監控系統設備建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
2217.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
2221.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
相關基地台建置等三項計畫之執行進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
2221.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2224.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
經費的運用以及成果進行專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
2224.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2226.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
以下分為三個部分報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
2226.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2228.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
第一海陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2228.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2229.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
南島語族航海計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
2229.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2231.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
本計畫目的在重建 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
2231.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2233.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
台灣南語與菲律賓巴丹群島 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2233.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2235.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
兼中斷三百年的海上航路 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
2237.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2241.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
我們已經完成了建造20人座的傳統拼版舟 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2241.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2243.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
我白樣黃金友誼號 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2243.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2245.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
並在今年的6月15日到18日 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2245.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2249.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
由我國南語航行至菲律賓巴丹群島 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
2249.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2253.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
完成跨越巴士海峽的歷史性航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2253.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2258.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
隨後在6月26日將改船正移巴丹省政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2258.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2261.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
象徵南島民族文化的再次連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
2263.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2265.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
總經費3850萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2265.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2268.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
由本會以文化部、海洋委員會及外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2270.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2275.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
目前已達成航行與文化交流等階段性目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2275.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2279.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
後續將持續進行族語影音節目的後製 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2279.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2283.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
以保存寶貴的傳統詔咒技術與航海知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2283.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2287.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
第二國際原住民族傳統競技文化交流族語的節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2287.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2290.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
就是世界原住民族傳統運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2291.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2296.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
在114年12月辦理2025年世界原住民族傳統運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2297.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2300.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
邀請來自10個國家28支代表隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2300.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2303.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
約1100名選手參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2304.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2307.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
進賽項目包含了射箭傳統、越武等10項競技 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2308.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2311.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
執行的經費大概在8500萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2312.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2314.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
除完成賽事接待與競技外 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2314.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2319.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
重點在於透過原住民族電視台進行轉播與數位傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2319.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2323.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
將國際交流成果轉化為豐富的族語文化教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2323.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2326.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
衍生活動的保存效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
2326.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2328.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
第三個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2329.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2331.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
第四個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
2345.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2348.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
截至今年6月底規劃的37座廣播站中 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2348.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2351.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
已經完成了32座併取的執照 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2351.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2354.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
目前電波的涵蓋率已達到82% |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2354.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2357.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
原住民族人口的涵蓋率達到78% |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2357.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2362.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
有效強化了原鄉的公共資訊與防災傳遞的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2364.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2369.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
剩餘的5座站點因為涉及地形地質、土地使用等複雜因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2369.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2370.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
進度稍有延宕 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2370.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2376.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
本會以督導研究委員會針對個案檢討工法或重新辦理採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2376.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2380.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
確保公共資源能妥善運用並如期結案 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2381.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2384.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
中和以上報告本會將持續監督研文會 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2384.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2387.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
確保各項計畫經費透明進度落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2387.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2390.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
對於涉及跨部會或高難度的工程案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2390.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2393.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
我們將加強風險管控與履約讀導 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2395.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2399.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
務求達成原住民族文化傳承以媒體服務的最高效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2400.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2404.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
另外接著針對原住民身份法以及原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
2404.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2406.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
部分條文修正草案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
2407.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2409.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2409.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2412.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
委員所提的原住民身份法草案第一案至第六案 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2412.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2417.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
及委員所提的原住民族基本法部分條文修正草案第一案至十二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2419.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2422.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
本會之前在114年11月26日 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2422.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2425.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
第11屆第4會起第13次全體委員會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2425.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2429.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
及114年5月22日第11屆第三會起 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
2429.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2432.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
第21次全體委員會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
2432.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2434.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
提報一見再案 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2434.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2436.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
以下僅分別就委員所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2436.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2439.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
原住民身份法第7案至第11案 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2439.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2442.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
以及原住民族基本法第13案到第15案 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2442.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2444.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
及各項修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
2444.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2446.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
說明如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
2447.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2448.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
原住民身份法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2448.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2453.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
原住民認定應兼顧血統民族認同及歷史脈絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
2453.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2456.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
原住民身份法有關身份認定及相關權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
2458.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2460.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
修法應兼顧立法的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2460.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2462.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
制度的安定以及族人的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2462.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2464.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
應審慎處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2464.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2466.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
第2條如果刪除登記要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
2466.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2468.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
將使平地原住民身份產生混淆 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2469.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2474.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
第7條如將例外試用擴及孫、曾孫等後代 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2476.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2478.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
第8條如果刪除登記要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2478.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2480.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
將使原住民身份產生混淆 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2480.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2482.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
將使原住民身份產生混淆 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2482.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2484.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
將使原住民身份產生混淆 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
2484.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2486.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
將使原住民身份產生混淆 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
2486.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2488.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
將使原住民身份產生混淆 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2488.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2490.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
將使原住民身份產生混淆 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2490.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2492.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
將使原住民身份產生混淆 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2492.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2494.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
將使原住民身份產生混淆 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2494.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2496.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
將使原住民身份產生混淆 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2496.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2498.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
將使原住民身份產生混淆 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2498.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2500.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
將使原住民身份產生混淆 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2500.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2502.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
將使原住民身份產生混淆 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2502.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2504.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
將使原住民身份產生混淆 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
2485.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2487.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
至於修法前死亡之子女 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
2487.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2489.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
得準用規定取得身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
2489.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2491.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
本會尊重修法方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
2491.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2493.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
並建議明定5年的過渡期 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2496.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2498.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
原住民族基本法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2498.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2500.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
本會支持持續完善原住民族權力保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
2500.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
2502.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
本會支持持續完善原住民族權力保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
2502.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2504.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
但修法仍應兼顧既有的法治 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2504.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2506.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
實務的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
2506.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2508.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
部落自主及族人的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
2507.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2509.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
對於已有法律命定的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
2509.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
2511.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
以避免重複規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
2511.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
2513.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
例如平普原住民族權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
2513.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
2515.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
例如平普原住民族權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
2515.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
2517.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
以及原住民族日 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
2517.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
2519.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
隨時即宜放假等事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
2519.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
2521.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
現行法律已有規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
2521.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
2523.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
2522.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
2524.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
避免重複入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
2524.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
2526.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
涉及各機關權責者 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
2526.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
2528.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
本會尊重主管機關意見及大院的審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
2528.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
2530.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
有關21條 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
2530.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
2532.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
自商同意的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
2532.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
2534.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
建議明確規範土地制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
2534.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
2538.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
自商同意參與權力限制與損失補償 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
2538.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
2540.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
原住民族基本法是 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
2540.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
2542.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
權力保障的尚未規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
2542.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
2544.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
不宜增列法則 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
2544.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
2546.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
若以刑罰介入部落內部的決策 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
2546.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
2548.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
若以刑罰介入部落內部的決策 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
2548.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
2550.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
可能造成檢舉及對立 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
2550.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
2552.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
影響族群的和諧 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
2552.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
2554.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
因審慎評估並充分溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
2554.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
2556.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
以確保制度的穩健 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
2556.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
2558.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
權力保障的周全 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
2558.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
2560.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
以上兩項報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
2560.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
2562.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
進行主席及各位委員指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
2562.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
2564.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
三保萬惡拉兩啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
2570.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
2572.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
其他單位的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
2572.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
2574.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
請委員自行參與並刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
2575.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
2577.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
現在進行巡達委員質詢前 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
2577.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
2579.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
原地做集點宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
2579.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
2581.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
本會委員及原住民委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
2581.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
2583.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
原地質詢時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
2583.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
2585.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
五分鐘必要時得延長兩分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
2585.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
2587.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
非本會委員質詢時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
2587.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
2589.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
五分鐘上午十點三十分 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
2589.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
2591.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
截止發言登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
2591.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
2593.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
本次會議臨時提案截止提出時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
2593.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
2595.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
十一點與本會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
2595.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
2597.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
巡達完畢後處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
2597.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
2599.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
請問各位委員有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
2602.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
2604.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
2608.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
2610.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
好那現在就進行巡達 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
2610.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
2612.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
請登記第一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
2612.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
2614.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
書僑會委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
2627.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
2629.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
好謝謝主席那我們就請副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
2631.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
2633.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
請進行巡達 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
2636.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
2638.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
好跟本委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
2638.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
2640.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
2640.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
2642.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
保住因為參加 |
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請這邊主持謝拉雅族民族 |
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核定計證明宣告典禮 |
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因此會在結束後 |
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回來列席大約十一點的時候 |
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2651.66 |
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2653.66 |
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會回到委員會以上跟委員會報告 |
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2654.94 |
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好謝謝 |
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那副主委早安 |
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我本來是第一張是直接要問主委 |
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但是副主委也很清楚 |
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這張照片的話 |
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2664.94 |
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應該是在今年三月的時候 |
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我們新北市瑞芳 |
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文件展開展 |
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那副主委您當天有去嗎 |
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沒有嘛因為主委已經去了嘛 |
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對主委在現場 |
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但是你應該後來也去過了吧 |
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三月到現在有沒有機會去到過 |
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沒有的話可以來一下 |
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應該是那個股仲應該有去過 |
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股仲去過 |
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好沒問題我想 |
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人民會業務是一體的所以您應該也清楚 |
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那這位瑞芳文件展 |
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2694.08 |
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通常服務的長者大概有多少人 |
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你知道嗎 |
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大概15到20 |
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2702.07 |
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那怎麼去服務的範圍是哪邊 |
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2706.86 |
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其實就是我們周圍 |
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瑞芳嘛但是 |
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2710.86 |
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以周圍部落為主啦 |
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2712.86 |
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對周圍部落可是 |
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2714.86 |
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調查相關原住民的部長 |
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2716.86 |
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可是副主委我們這樣在進行對話 |
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2718.86 |
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你知道我知道可是其他人可能不一定知道 |
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2720.86 |
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我們現在在講瑞芳這邊所謂的部落的時候 |
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2720.86 |
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2722.86 |
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其實新北市的部落 |
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是屬於非常散居的狀況 |
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2724.86 |
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2726.86 |
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他一個就是 |
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2726.86 |
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2728.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
跨樂山阿美家園劍基 |
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2728.86 |
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2730.86 |
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黃金大鎮其實都小小的 |
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2732.86 |
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小小的小小的 |
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2734.86 |
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對所以跟我們如果在東部 |
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2736.86 |
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在談一個部落 |
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2738.86 |
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好甚至不要講那麼遠在我們在講 |
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2740.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
烏來一個部落的話其實 |
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2740.86 |
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2742.86 |
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那個規模大小是完全 |
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2742.86 |
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2744.86 |
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不一樣的所以我們現在這個所謂 |
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| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
2746.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
瑞芳文件展 |
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2746.86 |
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2748.86 |
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他設置的位置是在 |
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2748.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
2750.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
所謂的我們剛剛講的那四個 |
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2750.86 |
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2752.86 |
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阿美家園啊黃金大鎮等等 |
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2754.86 |
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部落裡面嗎 |
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不是吧其實不是 |
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2758.87 |
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不是不是 |
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2760.87 |
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所以簡單講就是我們 |
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2762.87 |
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其實在新北市現在的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
2764.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
文件展裡面文字名的文件展裡面 |
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2764.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
2766.87 |
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他很有可能的狀況是 |
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2768.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
他找一個適當的地點設置之後 |
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2768.87 |
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2770.87 |
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他是服務周邊 |
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的原民而且就是散居 |
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| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
2774.87 |
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的其他狀況即便你 |
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| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
2776.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
他稱之他為一個聚落但其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
2776.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
2778.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
的人數也不同於我們了解的原民 |
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2778.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
2780.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
傳統部落那麼大 |
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2782.87 |
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好所以大家就來 |
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| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
2784.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
文件展絕對不是在部落 |
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| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
2786.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
裡面用步行行走就可以 |
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| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
2788.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
走到文件展完全不是吧 |
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| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
這是要有個交通的問題 |
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所以現在瑞芳 |
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| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
2794.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
這裡的話那他的問題會是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
2794.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
2796.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
大家想像一下嘛我從 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
2796.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
2798.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
我居住的地方要到文件展其實 |
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2798.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
2800.87 |
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要嘛這個我就是要 |
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2800.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
2802.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
坐公車甚至還要轉乘 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
2802.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
2804.87 |
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要嘛就是這個要有 |
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2804.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
2806.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
志工來載我 |
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2806.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
2808.87 |
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因為我一定要移動啊我要有車輛 |
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2810.87 |
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才能移動好那我精神狀態 |
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2810.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
2812.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
身體狀態最好的狀況是什麼我騎腳踏車 |
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2812.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
2814.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
騎腳踏車 |
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2814.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
2816.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
自己過去這個文件展 |
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| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
2818.87 |
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好那我們這個瑞芳 |
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| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
2820.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
文件展在哪邊在瑞濱公路旁邊 |
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2822.87 |
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在海邊啊剛剛不是 |
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2824.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
也說了嗎所以我們是騎著 |
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2824.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
2826.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
腳踏車的長者 |
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2826.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
2828.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
要穿過瑞濱公路這麼多 |
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| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
2830.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
大型車輛經過的地方 |
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2830.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
2832.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
之後才能到達文件展 |
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| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
2834.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
主委 |
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2836.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
副主委 |
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2835.08 |
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2837.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
你不覺得這個其實很辛苦 |
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2837.08 |
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2839.08 |
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又不安全嗎 |
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2839.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
2841.08 |
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對委員講這個沒有錯啊因為這個 |
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2841.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
2843.08 |
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瑞芳不是我們原住民地區 |
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2843.08 |
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是啊所以他不是像我們 |
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| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
2847.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
在元鄉的部落那麼集中 |
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2849.08 |
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所以他的交通事實上是比較閃的 |
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2849.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
2851.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
那我們事實上找地點也有 |
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2851.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
2853.08 |
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很大的困難好沒關係我今天不是在 |
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| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
2855.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
討論這個交通的部分我知道 |
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2855.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
2857.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
在元鄉其實很多時候是造福遠 |
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2857.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
2859.08 |
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他直接去接送有一些 |
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2859.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
2861.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
更不方便的長者 |
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2861.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
2863.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
但你針對這個都遠的部分我們 |
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2863.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
2865.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
會來檢討看看是用什麼方式 |
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2865.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
2867.08 |
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來解決他們的交通問題 |
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2867.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
2869.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
因為這個應該不是只有瑞芳 |
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應該是我今天就是跟你用 |
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這個例子來講因為事實上 |
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2875.08 |
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我新北市的族群的部分 |
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2877.08 |
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其實不只是原民我在客家 |
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的時候也不停的質詢 |
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事實上我客家的人口是 |
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僅次於桃園市我的客家 |
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人口是非常的多但是因為 |
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我們的居住方式等於是 |
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散居所以他不會把我 |
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列為客家重點區域 |
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所以我非常多的計畫補助其實 |
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都不能用的同樣的道理在 |
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新北市我的原民也是你不可能 |
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把我列為一個 |
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這個原住民地區除了 |
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烏來以外我都不是原住民地區 |
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但是我的人口多不多 |
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我的人口很多 |
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2909.08 |
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所以在這樣的狀況下我非常多的計畫 |
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非常多的補助我無法申請 |
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無法使用來我給你看一下剛剛的 |
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2915.08 |
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交通我們的交通會是什麼樣 |
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狀況所有文件證在 |
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2919.08 |
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實施這個交通在 |
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2919.08 |
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2921.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
實施費用補充 |
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2921.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
2923.08 |
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費用補助的狀況下 |
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2923.52 |
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2925.52 |
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你看他其實是 |
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2925.52 |
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2927.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
2928.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
2930.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
為什麼是先這張下一張 |
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2930.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
2932.79 |
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對他有一個這個在原住民 |
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2932.79 |
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地區的部分才有 |
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2936.79 |
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補助 |
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2936.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
2938.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
原住民地區的部分才有補助 |
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2938.35 |
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2940.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
C級招 |
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2940.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
2942.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
補助失能的這個 |
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| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
2944.35 |
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輕度的這些的部分 |
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| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
2946.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
但是他是只有在原民的部分才補助 |
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但是因為反過來 |
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2948.35 |
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2950.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
我要做這些補助的時候 |
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2950.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
2952.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
那我可以用什麼呢我的基本 |
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2952.35 |
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2954.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
業務費裡面可能會有 |
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2954.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
2956.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
可能會有的是有租金 |
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2956.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
2958.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
車輛租金郵費這些 |
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2958.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
2960.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
可是這些的車輛租金 |
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2960.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
2962.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
郵費是給來的長者 |
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2962.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
2964.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
用嗎其實不是他其實是 |
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2964.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
2966.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
在用於維護這個文件 |
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2966.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
2968.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
站的工作人員 |
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2968.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
2970.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
他可能要車輛去租借 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
2970.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
2972.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
他可能這台車片的公共車 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
2972.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
2974.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
的時候要有去郵料去使用 |
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2974.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
2976.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
那就算我這些人我讓他說 |
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2976.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
2978.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
你說用照服員去接送 |
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2978.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
2980.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
這些長者好了那這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
2982.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
人也要先找到啊或者 |
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| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
2984.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
要有另聘司機啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
2986.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
所以總而言之 |
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2986.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
2988.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
如果我片查你的這個補助計畫 |
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2988.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
2990.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
裡面不管是在項目一的基本 |
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2990.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
2992.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
費用裡面或者是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
2992.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
2994.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
項目二的這個量 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
2994.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
2996.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
其他補助費用上面的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
2996.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
2998.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
其實都找不到相對應 |
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2998.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
3000.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
剛剛我們在說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
3000.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
3002.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
我在都市區我在 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
3002.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
3004.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
非人住民地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
3004.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
3006.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
那散居的狀況要讓長輩 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
3006.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
3008.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
來參與的時候這一個交通 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
3008.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
3010.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
我要怎麼處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
3010.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
3012.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
那主委您的建議副主委你的建議會是 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
3012.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
3014.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
怎麼樣跟委員報告事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
3014.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
3016.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
今年的業務費是有增加就 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
3016.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
3018.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
陳如委員講他可能不會專門 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
3018.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
3020.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
用在這個所謂的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
3020.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
3022.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
現在的費用增加是增加什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
3022.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
3024.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
業務費就是他的遊資各方面有沒有增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
3024.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
3026.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
剛剛你有提到說在非人地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
3026.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
3028.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
事實上是沒有這樣的實質的主意 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
3028.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
3030.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
你增加多少 |
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3032.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
3034.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
你現在大部分的有些是 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
3034.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
3036.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
按照人口比例嗎55到60 |
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3036.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
3038.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
我們最高大概就是100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
3038.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
3040.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
就是業務費的部分 |
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3040.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
3042.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
直接提高到100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
3042.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
3044.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
分級距會不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
3044.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
3046.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
那我拿翻這個表單 |
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3046.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
3048.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
這個資料我們要立刻拿到 |
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3048.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
3050.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
像我樹林文件站為例 |
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3050.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
3052.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
你雖然按照人口數你可以給我 |
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3052.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
3054.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
每年大概60萬左右的補助費 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
3054.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
3056.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
聽起來好像蠻多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
3056.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
3058.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
但是主委您知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
3058.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
3060.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
以我們的這個文件站開設 |
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3060.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
3062.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
這個電費來講 |
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3062.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
3064.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
冬季兩萬夏季的電費 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
3064.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
3066.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
一個月就四萬 |
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3066.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
3068.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
所以在這樣的狀況下我一年 |
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3068.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
3070.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
60萬的補助我光是電費就吃掉40萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
3070.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
3072.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
電費就剩40萬 |
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3072.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
3074.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
這樣的狀況那我能夠剩多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
3074.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
3076.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
所以你現在說好 |
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3076.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
3078.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
給我們調高到100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
3078.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
3080.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
這樣聽起來好像增加很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
3080.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
3082.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
但我也想知道以我樹林的級距 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
3082.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
3084.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
來說的話60其實是落在哪一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
3084.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
3086.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
級距增加多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
3086.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
3088.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
這個到時候我們要看這個級距的資料表 |
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3088.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
3090.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
然後有辦法回答我們同不同意 |
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3090.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
3092.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
滿不滿意這樣的調整 |
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3092.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3094.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
所以今天在這裡的話特別跟您就教的 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
3094.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3096.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
其實就是請考慮 |
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3096.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3098.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
像我們新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
3098.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3100.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
這樣散居的地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
3100.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3102.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
原住民人口有非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
3102.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3104.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
但他是散居所以他不是原住民專區 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
3104.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3106.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
我們在補助人件站的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
3106.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3108.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
我們應該要有相對應 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3108.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3110.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
相對應的方式來做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
3110.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3112.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
你要增加項目也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
3112.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
3114.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
你要增加額度也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3114.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3116.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
但不管哪一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
3116.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3118.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
我們都看到對我們來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
3118.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
3120.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
我們需要的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3120.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
3122.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
第一是交通第二是我們的人口數 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3122.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3124.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
其實相對應是多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3125.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3127.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
這兩個部分主任你什麼時候可以提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
3127.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3129.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
副主任什麼時候可以提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
3130.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3132.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
我們一個禮拜給委員提出資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
3132.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3134.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
不是給資料還有你相對應的建議改進方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
3136.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3138.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
現有的資料你應該下午就可以傳給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
3138.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3140.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
不需要一個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
3140.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3142.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
你一個禮拜我可以同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
3142.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3144.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
但是是你建議的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3144.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3146.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
怎麼樣的改進怎麼樣去進進這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
3146.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3148.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
對建議改進的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3148.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3150.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
在原住民地區向委員所提點的這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3150.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3152.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
我們一併來整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
3152.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3154.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
如何的解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
3154.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
3156.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
一個禮拜之內提出改進的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
3156.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
3158.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
我們來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
3158.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3160.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
謝謝副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
3160.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
3162.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
3166.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
3168.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
我們下一位請徐中信委員發言直銜 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
3176.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3180.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
主席各位同仁我們邀請原委會曾主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
3184.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
3186.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
3186.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
3188.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
副主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3190.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
3192.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
3191.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3193.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
我今天有幾個問題要來請教您 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
3193.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
3195.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
不過我的主軸是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
3196.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
3198.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
我如果有用翻字 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
3198.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
3200.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
這沒有不進 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3200.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3202.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
3201.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3203.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
到 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3203.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3205.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
國民政府來以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
3205.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3207.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
左正 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
3207.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3209.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
3209.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3211.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
3211.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3213.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
3213.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3215.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
3215.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3217.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
3217.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3219.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
3219.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3221.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3221.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
3223.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
3223.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3225.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3225.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3227.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
3227.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3229.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
3229.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3231.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3231.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3233.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3233.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3235.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3215.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3217.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
我今天是要來跟你認清 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3217.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3219.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
跟你認清 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3219.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3221.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
第一個問題跟您請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
3221.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3225.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
我們希拉亞族原住民身份在行政院現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
3225.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3227.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
的進度如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
3227.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3229.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
跟我們報告今天早上就是希拉亞族 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
3229.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3231.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
這名的記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
3231.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
3233.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
今天那個院長會公布 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
3233.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
3235.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
那接下來在 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
3235.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
3237.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
8月中旬以後我們會開始做身份的登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
3237.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
3239.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
太好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
3239.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
3241.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
希拉亞原則上是已經完成了這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
3241.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
3243.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
階段性的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
3243.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
3245.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
工作後續當然登記還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
3245.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
3247.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
他的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
3247.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
3249.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
已經有做充分的準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
3249.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
3251.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
太好了因為喔剛好這幾天 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
3251.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
3253.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
新化國小 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
3253.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
3255.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
再核定獎學金 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
3255.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
3257.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
如果有原民身份的 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
3257.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
3259.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
他們就可以申請獎學金 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
3259.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
3261.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
所以這個是遲來的正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
3261.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
3263.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
非常的好 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
3263.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
3265.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
第二個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
3265.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
3267.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
這個主委您主席看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
3268.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
3270.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
希拉亞族在台南五大社 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
3271.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
3273.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
消亡 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
3272.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
3274.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
3275.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
3277.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
新港麻豆大木匠 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
3277.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
3279.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
大木匠就是新化了 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
3279.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
3281.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
這五色的色名 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
3281.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
3283.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
你有沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
3283.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
3285.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
新港這兩個字是純漢字 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
3286.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
3288.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
它跟其他四個不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
3289.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
3291.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
其他四個是從平埔語 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
3291.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
3293.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
用漢字寫下來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
3293.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
3295.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
蕭隆啊木家六灣啊大木匠 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
3296.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
3298.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
3297.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
3299.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
所以只有新港 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
3299.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
3301.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
為什麼會這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
3302.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
3304.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
這個問題很難 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
3303.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
3305.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
所以不是要來為難您 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
3306.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
3308.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
各位看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
3308.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
3310.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
明朝的歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
3310.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
3312.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
他們不認為臨風 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
3312.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
3314.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
臨風就是我們台南的臨風營 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
3314.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
3316.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
各位喝牛奶的臨風營 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
3316.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
3318.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
那個臨風 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
3318.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
3322.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
他1574年來新港設強米樑 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
3324.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
3326.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
但是1603年成立的東方記 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
3328.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
3330.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
在記載我們東方的居地的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
3332.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
3334.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
他有講到雙溪口 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
3334.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
3338.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
這個雙溪口很顯然是漢字的地名 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
3338.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
3340.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
是漢人在那邊住 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
3340.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
3342.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
這叫雙溪口 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
3341.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
3343.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
他沒有提到新港 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
3344.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
3346.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
新港現在就新式南科地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
3347.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
3349.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
3349.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
3351.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
3350.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
3352.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
曾經沒有提到新港 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
3356.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
3358.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
因為成立寫東方記 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
3358.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
3360.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
是在新港寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
3360.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
3362.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
而新港 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
3362.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
3364.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
3364.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
3366.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
兩個漢字 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
3365.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
3367.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
我個人判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
3367.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
3369.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
此字語 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
3369.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
3371.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
此字語 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
3371.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
3373.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
3373.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
3375.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
我怎麼講 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
3374.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
3376.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
3376.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
3378.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
根據東方記的記載 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
3378.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3380.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
明家精默 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
3380.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
3382.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
3382.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
3384.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
用火槍 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
3383.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
3385.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
火槍 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
3385.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3387.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
來攻打東方 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
3387.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
3389.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
東方不敵退入山 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
3389.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3391.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
3391.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3393.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
日本OK |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
3393.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
3395.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
來打東方應該沒有撤退 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
3397 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3399 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
而留在新市 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
3399.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
3401.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
3400.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
3402.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
把當地地名取為 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
3402.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3404.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
新港 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
3403.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
3407.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
所以新港這個地名在我們明朝的歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
3407.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3409.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
很早就出現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
3409.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
3411.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
1574年就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
3409.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
3411.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
所以我 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
3410.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3412.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
退估他 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
3413.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3415.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
有日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
3415.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3417.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
取名的可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
3417.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3419.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
那我講這個故事 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
3420.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3422.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
就是要讓各位知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
3422.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3424.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
我們台灣是一個多族群融合出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3424.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3426.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
尤其是平地地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
3427.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3429.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
族群融合出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
3430.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3432.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
也有日本協同 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
3432.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3434.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
留在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
3433.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3435.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
那也有漢人的協同留在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
3435.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3437.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
那當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
3437.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3439.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
他們娶的老婆大部分都是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
3440.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3442.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
3441.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3443.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
這就是我們形式我們台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
3443.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3445.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
民族認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
3445.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3447.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
一個很重要的論點 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3449.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3451.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
那我怎麼來證明這個呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
3451.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3453.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
各位我用兩個台語的 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
3453.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3455.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
俗諺 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
3455.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3457.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
一個老婆比較好曬的天空座 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
3459.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3461.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
一個老婆比較好曬的天空座 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3461.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3463.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
吳主委你有聽過 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
3463.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3465.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
這個俗諺嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3465.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3467.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
阿滴阿哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3466.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3468.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
提定提公地不敢講 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3470.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3472.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
提定提公地不敢講 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3472.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3474.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
對不敢非常遵從 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3476.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3478.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
只可以顧阿 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3479.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3481.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
這是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3480.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3482.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
當時漢人來都是男生 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3484.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3486.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
都入贅到平埔族家中 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
3487.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3489.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
平埔族是母系社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
3489.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3491.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
繼承人家的家產 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3491.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3493.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
所以娶一個老婆比較好曬天空座 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3493.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3495.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
所以我們台灣人愛老婆 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3495.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3497.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
疼老婆是這個傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3500.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3502.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
提定提公地不敢講 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3502.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3504.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
阿滴的博客 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3504.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3506.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
馬屁喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3505.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3507.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
結婚去 馬屁去 路線那 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3508.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3510.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
阿滴阿哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3510.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3512.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
阿滴阿哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3512.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3514.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
阿滴阿哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3514.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3516.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
阿滴阿哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3516.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3518.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
阿滴阿哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3518.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3520.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
阿滴阿哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3520.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3522.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
阿滴阿哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3522.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3524.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
阿滴阿哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3524.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3526.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
阿滴阿哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3526.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3528.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
阿滴阿哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3528.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3530.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
阿滴阿哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3530.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3532.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
阿滴阿哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3532.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3534.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
阿滴阿哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3534.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3536.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
阿滴阿哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3516.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3518.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
祝賀今時 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3518 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3520 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
因為那時的財產去外界生來 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3520 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3522 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
這道理就是這樣來 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3522.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3524.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3523.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3525.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
阿所以說我在這兒給主委這樣報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3527.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3529.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
我們要去看這個希拉亞竹根 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3530.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3532.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
漢竹 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3532.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3534.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
美男人他的通婚的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3537.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3539.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
那麼我們仍然有 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3539.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3541.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
保留一些純的平埔竹 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3541.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3543.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
在台南 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3544.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3546.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
包括我們新化的新和社區 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3549.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3551.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
馬 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3550.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3552.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
我們剛才講的五個希拉亞竹 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3552.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3554.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
有一個社叫做麻豆社 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3555.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3557.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
麻豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3558.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3559.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3559.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3561.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
主委麻豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3561.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3563.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
麻豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3562.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3564.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
他是什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3564.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3565.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
麻豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3565.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3566.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
麻豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3566.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3567.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
麻豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3567.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3568.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
麻豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3568.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3569.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
眼睛 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3569.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3570.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3570.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3574.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
現在南島語籍的國家都還是用麻豆做眼睛 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3575.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3576.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
阿哥我們麻豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3577.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3578.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
眼睛是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
3579.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3581.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
所以表示你看我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3581.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3582.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
希拉亞竹 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
3583.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3584.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
那麼難道 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
3585.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3586.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
語竹 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
3586.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3587.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
其實是同源 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
3588.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3589.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
其實是同源 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3590.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3591.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3591.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3595.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
我們可以看到台灣跟南島語族的國家之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3596.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3598.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
有非常親密的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3599.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3600.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
但是也不火刃 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3601.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3603.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
他跟日本也有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3604.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3605.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
我們在荷蘭 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3605.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3607.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
1624年來台灣以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3608.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3611.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
因為荷蘭人的待遇說明我們新港社 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3612.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3614.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
有一條船再很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3616.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3618.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
新港社人到江戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3619.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3621.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
去告東陽狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3621.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3622.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
不是告陽狀而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3622.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3623.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
他是告東陽狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3624.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3625.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
而江戶幕府 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3626.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3628.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
自由得寸 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3629.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3631.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
將軍親自來接待 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3633.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3635.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
副主委您知道為什麼要這麼多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3637.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3639.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
去跟幕府報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3640.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
3642.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
要去告東陽狀一個人就可以告 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
3642.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
3644.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
為什麼要這麼多人去 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
3644.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
3645.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
去江戶不用錢喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
3645.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
3647.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
去那邊吃住不用錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
3648.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
3650.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
為什麼要那麼多人去 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
3651.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
3653.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
那表示說新港社有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
3653.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
3655.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
我們各地的 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
3655.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
3657.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
首領我們都同意都來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
3657.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
3659.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
3658.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
3660.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
幕府 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
3660.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
3662.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
你出兵攻打荷蘭人 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
3662.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
3664.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
荷蘭人對我們不好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
3664.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
3666.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
我們社有共識啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
3666.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
3668.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
這麼多人都來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
3667.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
3669.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
這是我的解讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
3669.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
3671.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
所以我們可以看到新港社 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
3671.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
3673.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
跟日本的關係是這麼密切 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
3674.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
3676.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
所以荷蘭人的文獻記載 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
3677.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
3679.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
荷蘭人來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
3679.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
3681.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
已經有 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
3680.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
3682.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
日本人160人的移民區 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
3684.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
3686.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
而且有領袖 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
3686.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
3688.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
而且有領袖 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
3687.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
3689.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
所以中國說台灣歷史上屬於中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
3689.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
3691.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
那是 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
3691.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
3693.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
Rubbish 亂講 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
3693.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
3695.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
他不是只有這樣亂講而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
3695.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
3697.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
各位看到第七點 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
3697.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
3699.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
他說八丹群島是他的領土 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
3701.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
3703.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
好了 現在要組權 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
3703.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
3705.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
他的根據為何 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
3707.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
3709.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
他主要是認為說在語言上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
3709.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
3711.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
跟文化跟藍語的答物組 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
3711.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
3713.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
有非常多的相似 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
3713.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
3715.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
甚至是同一個族群的 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
3715.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
3717.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
這樣的認知 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
3717.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
3719.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
這樣的認知沒辦法成立啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
3719.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
3721.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
3721.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
3723.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
到1874年牡丹社事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
3724.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
3726.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
日本人要出兵的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
3726.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
3728.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
中國清朝還跟他講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
3728.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
3730.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
枋寮以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
3731.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
3733.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
叫畫外之地 狼橋18社 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
3734.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
3736.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
那其實他 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
3736.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
3738.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
斯卡羅 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
3737.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
3739.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
他有一個王叫戴吉多 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
3740.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
3742.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
3741.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
3743.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
左截獨啊 戴吉多 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
3744.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
3746.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
3745.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
3747.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
李仙德跟他非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
3747.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
3749.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
3749.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
3751.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
那所以我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
3751.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
3753.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
清朝到1874年 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
3752.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
3754.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
全人 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
3754.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
3756.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
說枋寮以下是畫外之地 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
3757.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
3759.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
那藍語也是畫外之地啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
3760.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
3762.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
台東 屏東很多是畫外之地啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
3764.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
3766.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
那怎麼可以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
3766.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
3768.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
八丹群島是屬於中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
3768.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
3770.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
東部大概都是當時為認定在畫外之地 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
3770.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
3772.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
3772.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
3774.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
只有少數幾個地方在台東花蓮那幾個平地 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
3775.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
3777.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
那我們可以看到八丹群島 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
3777.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
3779.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
跟藍語之間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
3779.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
3781.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
航行中斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
3781.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
3783.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
剛才您報告航行300多年 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
3783.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
3785.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
中斷嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
3785.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
3787.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
中斷的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
3787.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
3789.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
為何啊 航台技術應該更進步啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
3790.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
3792.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
為什麼會中斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
3792.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
3796.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
我看這些文獻大概是提到說當時有一些衝突啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
3796.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
3798.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
衝突事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
3798.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
3800.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
然後造成彼此之間後來就沒有再同行 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
3800.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
3802.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
這個衝突是西班牙人造成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
3805.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
3807.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
也就是說西班牙控制菲律賓的程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
3808.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
3810.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
已經連八丹群島 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
3811.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
3813.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
也受到控制 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
3813.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
3815.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
所以是西班牙人控制造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
3815.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
3817.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
我們這兩族之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
3818.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
3820.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
航行沒辦法繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
3820.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
3822.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
我個人的解讀是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
3822.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
3824.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
所以你們這個計畫非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
3824.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
3826.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
而且我鼓勵你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
3826.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
3828.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
跟南島語族不是只有跟八丹群島 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
3830.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
3832.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
我們跟斐濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
3832.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
3834.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
甚至跟紐約人 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
3835.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
3837.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
紐西蘭的戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
3839.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
3841.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
紐西蘭的戰舞更為原著名 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
3841.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
3843.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
那個舞蹈非常像 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
3844.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
3846.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
所以那個很多文化上的相同性 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
3848.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
3850.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
我們在外交上 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
3850.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
3852.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
要利用這一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
3852.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
3854.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
所以我今天來跟您認清 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
3854.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
3856.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
是有目的的 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
3856.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
3858.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
也就是說我們要跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
3858.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
3860.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
紐西蘭 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
3859.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
3861.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
還有甚至火地島 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
3861.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
3863.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
阿根廷的火地島 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
3864.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
3866.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
還有斐濟等這些國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
3867.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
3869.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
改善外交關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
3869.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
3871.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
有賴 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
3871.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
3873.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
我們的原著名出力 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
3874.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
3876.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
要用就有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
3876.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
3878.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
因為同源 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
3877.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
3879.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
你們現在怎麼不承認台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
3880.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
3882.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
我們現在台灣跟你們的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
3882.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
3884.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
應該是可以更緊密 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
3883.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
3885.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
而不是只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
3885.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
3887.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
這個扒肉 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
3887.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
3889.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
應該還有更多的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
3889.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
3891.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
我們可以藉由原著名跟他們的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
3892.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
3894.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
來改善我們現在的外交關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
3896.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
3898.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
包括斐濟啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
3898.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
3900.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
紐西蘭啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
3900.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
3902.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
甚至夏威夷也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
3901.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
3903.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
甚至夏威夷也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
3903.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
3905.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
拜託副主委往這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
3905.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
3907.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
協助我們的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
3907.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
3909.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
中文報告事實上會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
3909.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
3911.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
針對這個南島語族的這個文化交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
3911.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
3913.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
都已經進行了非常多年 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
3913.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
3915.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
甚至你剛剛講的紐西蘭那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
3915.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
3917.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
事實上我們有相關的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
3917.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
3919.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
在做不管是經貿文化交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
3919.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
3921.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
還有一些博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
3921.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
3923.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
各方面我們都有在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
3923.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
3925.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
這種所謂原著名族的文化交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
3925.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
3927.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
在外交上會有一些注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
3927.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
3929.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
不只有注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
3929.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
3931.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
所以我今天來拜託您 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
3931.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
3933.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
就是要原著名出兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
3933.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
3935.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
要原著名出兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
3935.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
3937.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
來協助我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
3936.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
3938.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
這個困頓的外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
3938.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
3940.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
還要協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
3940.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
3942.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
一個最簡單的 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
3942.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
3944.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
3944.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
3946.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
東家、懦魯他們上次來 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
3946.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
3948.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
參加我們的海洋論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
3948.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
3950.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
我兩天都在那邊學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
3949.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
3951.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
他們來都講英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
3951.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
3953.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
我們這邊當然也講英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
3954.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
3956.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
我內心在想 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
3956.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
3958.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
如果能夠講他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
3958.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
3960.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
原著名族語 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
3960.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
3962.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
那不知道多好 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
3962.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
3966.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
有沒有可能我們培養原著名的外交人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
3966.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
3968.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
我們常年都在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
3968.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
3970.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
我們每一年都有國際人才培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
3970.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
3972.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
尤其南島的部分也有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
3972.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
3974.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
我們原著名族人來參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
3974.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
3976.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
甚至國外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
3976.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
3978.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
在我們國家族族的 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
3978.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
3980.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
都有請他們一起來參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
3980.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
3982.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
國際人才的培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
3982.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
3984.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
外交部有沒有把它入籍為外交部的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
3985.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
3987.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
這個還要再繼續努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
3987.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
3989.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
這個我會督促他 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
3989.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
3991.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
今天我們一定要培養這方面的人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
3993.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
3995.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
協助我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
3995.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
3997.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
對南島為之國家的外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
3998.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
4000.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
非常謝謝吳主委的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
4000.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
4002.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
4007.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
4009.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
我們現在會請網美會委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
4018.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
4020.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
主席我們請吳主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
4026.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
4028.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
4028.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
4030.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
主委本來想跟你探討一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
4030.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
4032.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
我們出國的情報 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
4033.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
4035.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
我們的阿美族 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
4035.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
4037.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
我們的活動的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
4037.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
4039.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
阿美族的制服裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
4039.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
4041.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
都會配一支刀 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
4042.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
4044.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
4045 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
4047 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
我們的金正恩社 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
4047 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
4049 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
也有說要改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
4049 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
4051 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
如果是最好的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
4051 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
4053 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
主要來講阿美族 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
4053.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
4055.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
整個族裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
4055.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
4057.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
他會賺到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
4056.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
4058.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
在這個葬桌的當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
4059.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
4061.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
跟警察五歲出生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
4061.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
4063.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
覺得他是要去外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
4063.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
4065.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
跟葬桌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
4065.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
4067.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
但是在阿美族來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
4067.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
4069.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
他的制服裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
4069.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
4071.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
就是有一支刀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
4071.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
4073.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
4074.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
4076.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
阿美族 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
4076.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
4078.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
關主委的人很生氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
4078.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
4080.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
他會覺得你們不夠尊重他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
4081.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
4083.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
4083.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
4085.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
吳主委你是不是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
4085.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
4087.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
來解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
4087.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
4089.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
那天的發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
4089.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
4091.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
跟未來你要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
4091.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
4093.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
來 吳主委你會怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
4093.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
4095.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
我想那天發生這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
4095.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
4097.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
是滿遺憾的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
4097.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
4099.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
因為在一個原住民的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
4099.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
4101.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
豐年祭來講原則上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
4101.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
4103.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
整套服裝的配備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
4103.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
4105.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
那天看起來是非常完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
4105.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
4107.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
那個禮刀配備事實上是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
4107.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
4109.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
標準的配備啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
4109.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
4111.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
所以各族群可能都有這樣的現象 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
4111.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
4113.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
但是發生這樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
4113.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
4115.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
我想這個還是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
4115.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
4117.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
我們在政策上這個全民研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
4117.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
4119.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
還要加強就是讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
4119.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
4121.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
各個族群甚至我們的行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
4121.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
4123.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
要了解原住民族他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
4123.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
4125.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
本身的文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
4125.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
4127.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
腐蝕 圖騰各方面的運用都要尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
4127.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
4129.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
我想這個部分我們會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
4129.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
4131.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
跟相關的單位在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
4131.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
4133.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
持續的再來宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
4134.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
4136.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
因為在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
4136.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
4138.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
有的人不知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
4138.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
4140.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
阿美族會做的福利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
4140.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
4142.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
有一支筆刀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
4142.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
4144.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
到現在看到說到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
4144.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
4146.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
如果會有換價的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
4146.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
4148.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
還有有筆刀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
4148.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
4150.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
跟電視也會怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
4150.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
4152.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
說這樣走到我非常危險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
4152.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
4154.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
所以兩方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
4154.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
4156.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
五費入侵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
4156.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4158.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
不是像主委說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
4158.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
4160.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
我們需要什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
4160.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
4162.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
是我們應該在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
4162.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
4164.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
代一座 代一座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
4164.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
4166.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
有炸豆仔還是炸什麼的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
4166.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
4168.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
要喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
4169.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
4171.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
現在來演請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
4171.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4173.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
4172.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
4174.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
謝了 元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
4174.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4176.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
也更知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4176.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4178.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
他的藝術 他的道德 他的配備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
4178.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4180.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
是他本身就有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
4180.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
4182.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
4182.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4184.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
帶進來換價 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
4185.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4187.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
福祉會 你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
4187.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4189.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
那個配刀其實對原住民來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
4189.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4191.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
他是生活上所必須用的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4191.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4193.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
那事實上在這個槍砲管制條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4193.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4195.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
那個我們原住民的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4195.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4197.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
這個配刀他並不是管制的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4197.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4199.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
這個種類 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4199.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4201.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
不是管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
4201.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4203.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
但是在警察來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4203.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4205.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
他會覺得說這個炸豆仔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4205.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
4207.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
來外送就是不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4207.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4209.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
還會費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
4209.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4211.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
他不知道我們幾個族 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
4211.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
4215.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
都會配備這支刀的存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
4215.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
4217.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
所以福祉會本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
4217.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
4219.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
自己探討就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
4219.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
4221.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
未來不是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
4221.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
4223.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
我們來檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
4223.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
4225.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
跟我們說我們這個身分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
4225.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
4227.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
要炸豆仔的配備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
4227.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
4229.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
你愛上去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
4229.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
4231.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
大公娘 鬼祟鬼祟鬼祟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
4232.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
4236.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
像有時候這個配刀是一個很慎重的一個理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
4236.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
4238.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
就是他要過過配刀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
4238.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
4240.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
表示你這個人成長可以保護部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
4240.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
4242.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
我想他在文化上有不同的一個含義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
4242.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
4246.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
所以這部分是需要大家多去理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
4246.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
4248.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
要不然以後這樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
4248.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
4250.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
我覺得還會發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
4251.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
4253.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
福祉會就是這個最重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
4253.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
4255.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
你如果沒有說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
4255.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
4257.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
沒有了解的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
4258.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
4260.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
大家會覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
4260.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
4262.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
他這個要炸來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
4262.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
4264.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
要炸來忘記也做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
4264.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
4266.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
就是要讓人了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
4266.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
4268.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
讓人覺得一個尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
4267.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
4269.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
因為這個過程同樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
4269.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
4271.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
跟你說知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
4271.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
4273.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
現在的經濟數位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
4274.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
4276.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
阿姆阿伯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
4280.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
4282.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
阿伯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
4282.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
4284.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
阿伯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
4284.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
4286.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
阿伯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
4286.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
4288.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
阿伯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
4288.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
4290.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
阿伯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
4290.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
4292.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
阿伯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
4292.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
4294.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
阿伯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
4294.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
4296.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
阿伯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
4296.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
4298.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
阿伯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
4298.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
4300.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
阿伯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
4300.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
4302.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
阿伯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
4302.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
4304.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
阿伯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4304.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
4306.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
阿伯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
4306.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4308.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
阿伯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
4308.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
4310.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
我們在國際新聞都要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
4310.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
4312.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
這樣也不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
4312.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4314.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
大家要互相尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
4314.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
4316.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
這是最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
4316.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4318.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
來 福祉會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
4318.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
4320.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
我會把你傳到一個資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
4320.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
4322.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
傳播的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
4322.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4324.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
在100公尺年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
4324.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
4326.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
你有說這個傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
4326.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4328.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
裡面有20個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
4329.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4331.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
不過實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4331.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4333.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
你還能做得好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4333.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4335.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
到無尊位置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
4335.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4337.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
到有30個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
4336.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
4338.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
這是什麼原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
4338.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
4340.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
你是不是可以說一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
4340.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
4342.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
我們那個資訊傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4342.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4344.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
這個基地台建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4344.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4346.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
我們計畫是要37個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4346.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
4348.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
已經完成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4348.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
4350.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
32個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4350.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4352.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
那另外5個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4352.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4354.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
事實上是有一些環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
4354.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
4356.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
地形地貌的問題或地質的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
4356.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
4358.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
還有一些土地管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
4358.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4360.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
所以沒有辦法如期的來完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
4360.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
4362.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
這個部分事實上我們也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
4362.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
4364.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
想其他的方式是不是跟在地的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
4364.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
4366.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
廣播業者合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
4366.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
4368.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
甚至是租用或是配合他們所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
4368.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
4370.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
既有的設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4370.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
4372.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
來一併把覆蓋力再提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4372.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4374.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
所以後續相關工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4374.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4376.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
我們盡可能克服能夠完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4376.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4378.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
如果不行我們就會朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4378.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4380.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
或者是重新再來去研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4380.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4382.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
看用什麼方式來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4382.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4384.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
後面沒有辦法達成的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4384.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4386.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
因為福祉會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4386.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4388.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
在關主民的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4387.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4389.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
他們的傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4389.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4391.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
是對他們來說非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4391.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
4393.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
所以他們有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
4393.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4395.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
從沉船下來還有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4395.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4397.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
跟捷運管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
4397.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
4399.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
所在他也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
4399.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4401.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
靠傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
4401.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
4403.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
聽訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
4403.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4405.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
所以在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
4405.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4407.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
本身會覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
4407.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4409.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
4409.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4411.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
我們的目標37個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
4411.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
4413.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
4414.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
4416.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
會不會還會做得好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
4416.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
4418.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
會不會還會做得好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
4418.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
4420.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
歸咿 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
4420.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
4422.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
32個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
4422.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4424.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
那船要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
4424.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
4426.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
所以我們現在針對那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
4426.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
4428.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
5個還沒有辦法完成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
4428.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
4430.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
我們另外有開一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
4430.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
4432.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
工程的匯報甚至 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
4432.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4434.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
是不是有一些在軟體上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4434.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4436.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
要再重新招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
4436.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4438.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
那我們都在做一些處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4438.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4440.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
也希望借助既有的設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4440.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4442.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
比如說有一些地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4442.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4444.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
在地已經有那些發射台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4444.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4446.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
或是說有他們的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4446.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4448.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
我們可以跟他合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4448.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4450.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
看能不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4450.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4452.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
先用這種比較能夠達成目標的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4452.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4454.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
來促成這個涵蓋令達到100% |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4454.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4456.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
因為資訊的傳達非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4456.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4458.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
你如果有天災 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4458.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4460.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
你要通知就是有20%的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4460.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4462.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
收不到這個訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4462.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4464.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
我想這個是一個我們要趕快解決的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4464.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4466.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
所以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4466.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4468.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
吳主委本身跟你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4468.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4470.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
有時候沉船的人來我講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4470.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4472.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
有的都沒辦法接到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4472.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4474.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
發生什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4474.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4476.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
他也沒辦法接到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4476.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4478.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
更何況你們船整個的海峽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4478.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4480.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
你怎麼去突破 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4480.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4482.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
好 謝謝 好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4482.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4484.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
因為我覺得這對於原住民來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4484.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4486.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4486.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4488.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
因為他們都住在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4488.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4490.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
比較山的嘛 比較海的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4490.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4492.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
所以說這對他們來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4492.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4494.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4494.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4496.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
所以在這個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4496.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4498.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
我們的原住民不管待一週 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4498.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4500.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
不管他現在在做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4500.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4502.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
最主要我們的船舶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4502.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4504.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
一定要到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4504.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4506.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
不是在說你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4506.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4508.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
18空70到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4508.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4510.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
吳主委要加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4510.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4512.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
謝謝 多謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4519.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4521.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
現在我也請黃介委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4531.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4533.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
好 謝主席 請副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4537.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
4539.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
好 副主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4539.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4541.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
先恭喜一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4541.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4543.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
今天早上這個希拉亞族的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4543.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4545.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
核定的典禮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
4545.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4547.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
要跟族人說一聲恭喜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4547.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4549.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
這個正名之路非常的漫長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4549.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4551.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
將近三十年到十幾年的官司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4551.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4553.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
甚至走到了憲法法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4553.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4555.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
終於等到了這一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
4555.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4557.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
非常的不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4557.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4559.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
也謝謝你們的祝福 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4559.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4561.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
是的 那我等一下如果來得及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4561.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4563.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
我也希望可以到現場給大家祝福 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4563.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4565.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
那我必須要說這個憲法法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4565.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4567.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
在2002年判決之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4567.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4569.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
那立法到了前十天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4569.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4571.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
終於立好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4571.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4573.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
那希拉亞族這個公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4573.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4575.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
3月8號期滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4575.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4577.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
那原民會本來是承諾說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4577.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4579.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
兩個月可以抱怨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4579.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4581.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
但是還是拖到了今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4581.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4583.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
有一點拖到 但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4583.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
4585.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
還是終於走到了今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
4585.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
4587.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
那我第一個要問的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
4587.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
4589.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
那什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
4589.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
4591.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
這些族人可以去到護政事務所來登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
4591.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
4593.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
取得他們的身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
4593.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
4597.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
我們原則上目前我們的計畫規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
4597.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
4599.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
是在8月13號以後就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
4599.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
4601.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
8月13號以後 所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
4601.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
4603.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
8月1號能夠進行 但是我們後來再次的協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
4603.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
4605.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
發現到可能還有些地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
4605.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
4607.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
還要再加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
4607.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
4609.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
所以我們會在8月中旬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
4609.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
4611.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
好 所以族人8月13號之後他們走進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
4611.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
4613.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
護政事務所就可以順利的進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
4613.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
4615.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
我們對外公布都是8月中旬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
4615.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
4617.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
我是在這邊跟委員講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
4617.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
4619.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
對 所以我會希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
4619.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
4621.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
就是要給族人一個明確的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
4621.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
4623.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
讓他們真的走進護政事務所的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
4623.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
4625.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
是可以順利的辦理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
4625.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
4627.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
這是第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
4627.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
4629.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
再來第二個 除了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
4629.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
4631.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
希拉亞族之外 其他像我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
4631.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
4633.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
高雄還有大武龍族 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
4633.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
4635.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
那就在我們的甲仙山林 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
4635.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
4637.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
我不知道說其他的八族目前的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
4637.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
4639.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
走到什麼階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
4641.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
4643.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
跟委員報告 現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
4643.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
4645.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
相關申請像道卡斯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
4645.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
4647.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
4647.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
4649.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
民族認定的申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
4649.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
4651.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
他目前是已經在我們要開 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
4651.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
4653.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
那個審議委員會了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
4653.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
4655.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
那像大武龍好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
4655.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
4657.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
目前是已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
4657.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
4659.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
也提出申請了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
4659.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
4661.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
我們目前都還要進入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
4661.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
4663.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
後續的一些調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
4663.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
4665.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
還有他們要提出他們相關的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
4665.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
4667.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
草案 就是身份認定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
4667.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
4669.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
草案要來跟我們審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
4669.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
4671.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
另外有一些族群已經申請了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
4671.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
4673.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
這些要就名的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
4673.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
4675.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
我們都會做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
4675.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
4677.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
我們都會 我們都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
4677.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
4679.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
像我們高雄的大武龍族 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
4679.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
4681.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
不知道說你們現在審議的進度到哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
4681.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
4683.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
其實都已經申請了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
4683.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
4685.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
認定申請他申請了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
4685.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
4687.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
那我們的委員的要件公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
4687.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
4689.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
目前他們在進行大武龍的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
4690.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
4692.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
對啊 所以我是想問大概的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
4694.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
4696.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
如果按照希拉亞這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
4696.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
4698.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
如果他的那個要件公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
4698.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
4700.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
這個部分能夠很快完成的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
4700.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
4702.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
4701.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
4703.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
應該在半年內應該可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
4703.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
4705.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
半年內可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
4705.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
4707.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
但是那個還是要送到院裡面去報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
4707.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
4709.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
是 所以我在這邊希望的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
4709.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
4711.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
幫族人問一下我們的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
4711.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
4713.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
是不是可以順利 那可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
4713.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
4715.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
你說的半年內就來完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
4715.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
4717.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
這個也要他們要配合喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
4717.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
4719.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
不是說我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
4719.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
4721.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
因為這個族群的認定跟申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
4721.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
4723.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
是他們自己這個族群的團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
4723.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
4725.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
他們要做一些相關的準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
4725.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
4727.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
交到我們這邊來我們就可以做審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
4727.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
4729.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
可以盡量的協助族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
4729.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
4731.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
那這樣就能夠快的拿到這樣子的審議的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
4731.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
4733.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
好 再來第三件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
4733.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
4735.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
要問的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
4735.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
4737.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
因為接下來最直接的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
4737.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
4739.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
他們的政治參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
4739.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
4741.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
還有衛生醫療的相關等等的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
4741.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
4743.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
那所以我在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
4743.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
4745.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
想問的是相關的權利的盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
4745.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
4747.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
還有法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
4747.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
4749.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
你們有沒有進行了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
4749.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
4751.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
包括說選舉權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
4751.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
4753.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
還是說他們接下來的升學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
4753.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
4755.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
工作權的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
4755.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
4757.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
健保的補助 長照的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
4757.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
4759.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
等等相關的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
4759.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
4761.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
你們盤點過了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
4761.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
4763.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
跟委員報告這個在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
4763.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
4765.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
今年的5月19號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
4765.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
4767.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
我們有召開了跨部會的這個會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
4767.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
4769.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
就是針對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
4769.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
4771.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
平埔族群他們的未來在三年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
4771.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
4773.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
要制定的相關法律的權益的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
4773.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
4775.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
來做盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
4775.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
4777.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
那我們已經盤點出來有118種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
4777.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
4779.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
法規命令需要做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
4779.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
4781.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
那也發文請他們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
4781.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
4783.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
9月30號以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
4783.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
4785.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
把他們所盤整出來需要調整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
4785.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
4787.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
那個文字內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
4787.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
4789.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
報到我們會裡面 我們再來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
4789.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
4791.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
是法規命令 是行政規則 是法律面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
4791.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
4793.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
應該怎麼處理 那時候會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
4793.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
4795.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
再進一步的做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
4795.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
4797.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
4797.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
4799.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
所以是9月30號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
4799.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
4801.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
9月30號請他們回報 把他們所盤點所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
4801.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
4803.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
需要修正的是哪一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
4803.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
4805.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
他的內容會是什麼 我們再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
4805.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
4807.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
做整理說是法律的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
4807.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
4809.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
違結是法規命令的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
4809.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
4811.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
是行政規則的 應該怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
4811.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
4813.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
我們那時候後續就會進一步的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
4813.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
4815.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
好 這個就是希望你們接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
4815.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
4817.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
像我剛剛說的這一些相關的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
4817.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
4819.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
都必須要進行完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
4819.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
4821.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
盤點 那給他們應有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
4821.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
4823.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
權利 好 那最後一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
4823.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
4825.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
我是想要提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
4825.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
4827.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
這個護政端的配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
4827.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
4829.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
因為其實1月的時候我有提一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
4829.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
4831.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
這個泰雅族人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
4831.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
4833.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
例子就是他想要幫他的新生兒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
4833.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
4835.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
登記族名 結果護政人員說他的族名不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
4835.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
4837.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
他的人民譜上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
4837.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
4839.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
那就有點稍微刁難了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
4839.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
4841.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
一下 那變成說他去登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
4841.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
4843.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
沒有很順利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
4843.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
4845.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
那我想要講的就是這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
4845.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
4847.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
人民譜本來就是參考的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
4847.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
4849.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
不是他審核的依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
4849.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
4851.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
那所以我想問的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
4851.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
4853.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
接下來的這一些平埔族 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
4853.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
4855.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
的族人他們去到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
4855.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
4857.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
護政事務所 那可能也會遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
4857.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
4859.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
相關的問題 更何況他們沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
4859.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
4861.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
這些相 他們相關的依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
4861.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
4863.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
是更少的 那護政端這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
4863.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
4865.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
是不是你們應該要去溝通一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
4865.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
4867.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
我們在這個身份登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
4867.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
4869.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
的部分事實上召開過兩次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
4869.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
4871.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
會議 也是照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
4871.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
4873.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
護政單位來討論 那相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
4873.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
4875.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
登記的作業的要點啊或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
4875.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
4877.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
有一些我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
4877.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
4879.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
認為說可能有問題的部分都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
4879.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
4881.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
做充分的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
4881.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
4883.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
所以才會跟委員說我們為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
4883.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
4885.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
會在8月13號才開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
4885.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
4887.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
登記 是因為我們要把這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
4887.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
4889.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
餘力先一次解決 要不然到時候來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
4889.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
4891.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
申請 欸怎麼這個又少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
4891.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
4893.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
這個又不符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
4893.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
4895.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
對 因為我在這邊提醒一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
4895.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
4897.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
因為平埔原住民族群的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
4897.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
4899.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
身份法20條裡面是寫到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
4899.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
4901.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
傳統的名字跟登記的民族別式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
4901.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
4903.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
相關聯 可是這個相關聯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
4903.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
4905.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
有一點籠統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
4905.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
4907.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
所以我要在這邊提醒的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
4907.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
4909.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
如果你們已經有確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
4909.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
4911.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
不要只是一個默契 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
4911.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
4913.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
而是要讓 要讓我們相關族人都要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
4913.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
4915.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
規範 沒錯 必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
4915.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
4917.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
有一個非常詳盡的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
4917.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
4919.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
不會說族人去到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
4919.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
4921.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
護政事務所結果現場又跟他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
4921.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
4923.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
這個我們沒有在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
4923.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
4925.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
我們相關的什麼審查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
4925.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
4927.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
基準之上 或者是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
4927.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
4929.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
沒有相關的參考 所以沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
4929.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
4931.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
登記 希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
4931.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
4933.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
絕對不可以遇到這樣的情況 好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
4933.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
4935.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
我們會努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
4935.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
4937.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
就到零缺點 好 這個要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
4937.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
4939.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
拜託 好 最後一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
4939.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
4941.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
我要講一下這個監察院的糾正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
4941.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
4945.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
就是大學實驗原住民族土地的權利案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
4945.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
4947.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
那去年8月有一個糾正案嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
4947.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
4949.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
就是台大實驗林 台大的山地農場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
4949.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
4951.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
中興的惠孫林場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
4951.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
4953.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
還有平科大的達仁林場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
4953.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
4955.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
那除了教育部之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
4955.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
4957.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
原民會其實也被糾正了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
4957.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
4959.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
4959.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
4961.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
對 所以那你們知道你們被糾正的內容是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
4964.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
4966.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
4966.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
4968.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
所以這個共管的部分你們現在有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
4968.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
4970.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
進行相關的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
4971.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
4975.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
共管的部分事實上我們在去年就已經開始在研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
4975.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
4977.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
要會商各部會來研修這個共管辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
4977.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
4979.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
然後共管辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
4979.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
4981.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
是各部會大家要會先發布 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
4981.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
4983.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
所以當然原民會一定會提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
4983.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
4985.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
我們需要的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
4985.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
4987.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
但是在這個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
4987.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
4989.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
各部會他們還是有他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
4989.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
4991.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
堅持的卡 所以我們會努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
4991.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
4993.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
副主委講到一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
4993.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
4995.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
你們會提出你們要的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
4995.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
4997.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
那我在這邊具體的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
4997.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
4999.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
就是我們到時候的共管辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
4999.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
5001.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
這個得可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
5002 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
5004 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
改成因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
5032 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
5034 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
好 所以我希望你們要有你們的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
5034 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
5036 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
然後堅持應該要幫原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
5036 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
5038 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
爭取他們的權益好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
5038 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
5040 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
5040 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
5042 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
所以這個共管辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
5042 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
5044 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
那最後再提醒一個就是這個共同召集人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
5044 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
5046 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
因為其實剛剛你說的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
5046 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
5048 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
林保署還有國家公園署其實裡面都有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
5048 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
5050 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
必須要有一個原住民族的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
5050 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
5052 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
擔任共同召集人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
5052 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
5054 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
但是我們沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
5054 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
5056 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
我們希望全力要分享義務要共同承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
5056 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
5058 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
5058 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
5060 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
所以希望到時候共同召集人的部分你們也可以納進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5060 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
5062 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
是 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
5069.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
5071.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
我們下一位請張宏路委員發言詞詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
5086.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
5088.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
好 請出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
5093.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
5095.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
我也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
5095.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
5097.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
這個啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
5097.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
5101.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
南島宇族航海計畫 |
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這個其實都已經做了 |
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也做得不錯 |
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那你們現在做完了之後 |
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後續你們還有什麼推動 |
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後續事實上我們是希望能夠持續的進行這個文化繼續的交流 |
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那我們也有相關未來的規劃是不是那個 |
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簡單 |
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好 請到位 |
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明年會繼續辦嗎 |
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航海應該 |
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沒有辦法每年這樣持續辦 |
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因為它事實上它要準備 |
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未來還是有可能 |
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因為我們這次有一個非常 |
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經過這樣的過程我們其實獲得非常多的經驗 |
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我 |
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我覺得整個 |
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這個南島宇系 |
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其實範圍蠻大的 |
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那我們這一次 |
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有到菲律賓了 |
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到這邊 |
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因為你這次也是有文化部 |
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大家一起合辦的 |
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外交部什麼的 |
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我想請問一下 |
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這個我們自己在這邊辦的很高興 |
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那在菲律賓的宣傳 |
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你們後續要怎麼做 |
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有這個計畫嗎 |
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菲律賓的宣傳的部分 |
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請董事長說一下 |
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委員好 |
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就是我們這次的 |
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就是黃金友一號 |
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我們劃到巴丹島 |
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這個都不用講了 |
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我們捐贈給巴丹島 |
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這個都知道了 |
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然後進行後續在巴丹島 |
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進行這個傳跟社區 |
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跟研究單位的合作 |
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跟研究單位 |
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跟什麼這是一件事 |
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我說的是宣傳 |
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我跟你講 |
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血濃於水啦 |
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你既然大家的 |
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這個南島委序都一樣 |
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那你要跟他當朋友 |
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為什麼不趁著這個機會 |
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把這些南島委序 |
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讓他知道台灣的 |
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跟他們就是同源同種 |
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那他們才可以連結起來 |
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他才會對台灣友好 |
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才會遇到事情 |
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這個就是我們的族人 |
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這個是後續的宣傳才是重要的 |
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所以你們後面有沒有 |
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在這些南島委序的國家 |
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去宣傳啊 |
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那你跟外交部跟什麼大家配合啊 |
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不然你花了這麼多錢 |
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就這樣子 |
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放了煙火就沒了 |
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因為我們在 |
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明年也有編了相關 |
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南島文化交流中長城計畫 |
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那這個計畫裡面有一些資源 |
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會整合運用 |
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那不管是航海人才的培育跟航海記憶傳產 |
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跟合作交流 |
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重點都在這裡 |
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我的重點跟你們回答的 |
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完全不一樣 |
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那我就明確的跟你們說 |
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我希望你們 |
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要編 |
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這個國際的宣傳的預算 |
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然後讓他們知道 |
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所有南島委序的人知道 |
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台灣就是跟他們一樣的 |
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台灣的這個達悟主 |
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這些跟他們一樣的 |
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可以跟外交部配合 |
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可以跟什麼 |
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然後在那邊辦活動 |
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然後用宣傳 |
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我覺得這個才是重點啊 |
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我們來檢討改進看看 |
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怎麼處理 |
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可以喔那我希望我在明年的預算看到這些 |
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是我們 |
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不然預算我說得很支持 |
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我們再來檢討這個部分 |
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我覺得這個要嘛 |
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我跟你講 |
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很多國家都這樣做 |
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那我們既然花了這麼多錢 |
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我希望你們要這樣子做 |
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才不會浪費了這些 |
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你想想看 |
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你跟他如果他認同你 |
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有任何事情他會聽你說話 |
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對不對 |
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不是只有一個宣傳 |
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不是只有對台灣我覺得那個 |
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太可惜了啦 |
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可以啦 |
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5338.95 |
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5340.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
你們會這樣做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5340.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5342.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
那我們就來看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5342.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5344.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
那我也希望說如果你們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5344.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5346.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
也給個資料給我好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5346.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5348.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
大家一起看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5348.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5350.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
也不要給我而已啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5350.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5352.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
給所有內政委員會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5352.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5354.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
大家集思廣益看怎麼做會比較好嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5354.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5356.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
這個我覺得很難得的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5356.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5358.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5358.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
5360.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
你可以給董事長補充一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5362.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5364.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
跟部委員再做一個補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5364.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5366.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
就是在九月份 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5366.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5368.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
那全世界的原住民電視台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5368.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5370.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
原住民的媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5370.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5372.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
會在挪威有一個世界大會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5372.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
5374.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5374.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5376.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
航海的計畫跟國際的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5376.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
5378.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
文化的交流也會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5378.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5380.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
那個地方來跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5380.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5382.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
所有的全世界的原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5382.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5384.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
做宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5384.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5386.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
這個我都支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5386.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5388.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
但重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5388.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5390.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
在南島語系的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5390.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5392.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
我們這個要宣傳要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5392.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5394.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
讓他們要互相認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5394.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5396.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
這個才是重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5396.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5398.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
我覺得這個才是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5398.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5400.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
那再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5400.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5402.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5402.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5404.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
我們原住民主廣播電台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5404.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5406.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
這個信號我看你們那個資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5409.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5411.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
預算是編不夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5412.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5414.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
因為你們的建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5414.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5416.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
我覺得還沒有達到我們的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5416.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5418.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
目前只有82% |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5418.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5420.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
預算是不夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5420.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5422.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
並沒有不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5422.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5424.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
並沒有不夠就是技術性的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5424.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5426.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5426.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5428.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
那我真的覺得太慢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5428.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5430.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
我真的覺得太慢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5430.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5432.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
技術性的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5432.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5434.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
應該很好解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5435.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5437.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
只要是技術性的問題都不是不能解決的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5437.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5439.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
我希望能夠快一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5439.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5441.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
你們不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5441.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5443.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
這樣子你們可以跟各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5443.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5445.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
互相協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5445.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5447.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
大家互相幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5447.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5449.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
互相協力 互相協作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5449.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5451.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
我覺得這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5451.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5453.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
真的太慢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5453.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5455.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
每年給你這麼多的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5455.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5457.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
結果你信號出不出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5457.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5459.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
那給你們預算幹嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5459.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5461.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5461.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5463.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
現在原民會也會協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5463.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5465.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
原文會來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5465.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5467.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
有關工程技術要跨部會協調的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5467.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5469.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
這個本來就要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5469.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5471.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
不是現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5471.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5473.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
我的意思是本來就要做的不是現在才要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5473.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5475.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5475.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5477.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
我覺得這個真的太慢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5477.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
5479.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
你自己想想看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
5479.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
5481.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
我如果是原住民的朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
5481.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
5483.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
你們講的那麼多我連收聽都收聽不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
5483.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
5485.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
我覺得這個不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
5485.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
5487.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
你們多久可以改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
5488.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
5490.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
多久可以改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
5491.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
5493.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
5493.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
5495.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
一年之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
5495.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
5497.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
我們所有的站塔應該進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
5497.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
5499.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
會再超前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
5499.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
5501.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
各位再做報告就是這些站塔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
5501.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
5503.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
其實大部分是在原鄉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
5503.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
5505.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
山坡地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
5505.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
5507.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
這個山坡地的相關法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
5507.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
5509.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
以及原住民保留地的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
5509.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
5511.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
這個我都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
5511.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
5513.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
這個我都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
5513.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
5515.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
但你們就是遇到問題停在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
5515.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
5517.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
我跟你講有很多方式可以解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
5517.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
5519.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
5519.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
5521.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
我舉個例子好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
5521.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
5523.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
我舉個例子好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
5524.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
5526.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
人家那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
5526.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
5528.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
他為了要賺錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
5528.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
5530.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
他會想盡辦法趕快解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
5530.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
5532.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
但你們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
5532.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
5534.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
我問個問題我卡住了我就怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
5534.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
5536.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
我覺得那是不對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
5536.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
5538.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
你們不夠積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
5538.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
5540.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
你請各部會去一起協調處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
5540.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
5542.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
我覺得就會快很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
5542.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
5544.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
我舉這個例子很清楚吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
5544.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
5546.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
我們在這段時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
5546.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
5548.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
其實最主要是鄉公所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
5548.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
5550.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
都出面幫忙我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
5550.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
5552.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
有一些地方的土地的取代 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
5552.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
5554.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
跟山坡地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
5554.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
5556.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
鄉公所跟我們的合作蠻密切 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
5556.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
5558.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
我們在這一塊可能會再繼續努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
5558.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
5560.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
5560.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
5562.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
做事情要找對方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
5562.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
5564.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
不是每天公文在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
5564.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
5566.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
你看人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
5566.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
5568.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
我就舉個你去看人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
5568.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
5570.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
如果你們不知道你去看人家電信公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
5570.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
5572.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
如何解決這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
5572.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
5574.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
如果你們不是工程專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
5574.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
5576.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
我了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
5576.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
5578.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
但有很多例子你們去找來參考就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
5578.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
5580.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
人家就可以馬上解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
5580.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
5582.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
那我覺得這樣拖得太久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
5582.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
5584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
5584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
5586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
我覺得剝奪了原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
5586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
5588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
我們在比較偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
5588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
5590.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
原住民的同胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
5590.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
5592.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
他們的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
5592.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
5594.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
這點拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
5594.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
5596.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
最後再給我30秒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
5596.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
5598.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
5599.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
5601.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
如果去打獵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
5602.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
5604.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
他是不是配槍跟配刀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
5605.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
5607.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
5607.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
5609.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
那他如果去參加豐年祭什麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
5609.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
5611.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
他可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
5611.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
5613.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
照他們各族的傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
5613.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
5615.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
配槍配刀豐年祭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
5615.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
5617.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
我們在很多豐年祭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
5617.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
5619.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
事實上在很多的祭儀的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
5619.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
5621.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
都會有用到獵槍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
5621.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
5623.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
配刀是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
5623.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
5625.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
本身的服飾上的標準配備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
5625.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
5627.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
他可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
5627.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
5629.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
5629.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
5631.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
那他如果可以的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
5631.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
5633.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
我相信我要講的你知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
5634.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
5636.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
你們應該要跟警政署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
5636.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
5638.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
跟什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
5638.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
5640.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
要去聯絡好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
5640.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
5642.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
這種事情不能再發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
5642.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
5644.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
不管他有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
5644.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
5646.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
做出抗議的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
5646.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
5648.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
這是對原住民傳統的尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
5651.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
5653.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
那個事件的本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
5653.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
5655.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
5654.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
5656.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
到底怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
5656.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
5658.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
但原住民的傳統的本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
5658.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
5660.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
這個要尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
5660.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
5662.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
這個是你們原民會最主要的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
5662.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
5664.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
事情發生了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
5664.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
5666.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
你們有跟警政署聯繫了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
5670.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
5672.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
跟委員報告目前還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
5672.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
5674.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
沒有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
5674 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
5676 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
這個不對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
5676 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
5678 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
我也知道你們沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
5678.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
5680.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
但如果是這種事情一發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
5680.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
5682.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
馬上就要跟他們講啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
5682.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
5684.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
你們的主委就要跟內政部長講啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
5684.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
5686.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
這是我們原住民族的傳統啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
5687.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
5689.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
我覺得不管什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
5690.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
5692.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
都有其他面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
5692.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
5694.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
但傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
5694.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
5696.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
就是傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
5696.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
5698.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
不然我們每天在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
5698.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
5700.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
講這麼多 立這麼多的法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
5700.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
5702.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
要幹什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
5701.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
5703.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
這一點我拜託你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
5703.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
5705.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
如果趕快去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
5705.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
5707.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
未來有類似這種事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
5707.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
5709.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
你要第一時間要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
5709.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
5711.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
你們主委就是要跟內政部長講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
5711.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
5713.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
這是我們的傳統啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
5713.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
5715.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
對不對 不應該這樣子啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
5715.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
5717.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
你覺得勒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
5718.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
5720.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
我們會跟主委傳達這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
5720.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
5722.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
然後跟內政部再來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
5722.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
5724.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
或許怎麼樣子來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
5724.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
5726.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
這個要趕快處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
5726.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
5728.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
未來如果有類似這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
5728.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
5730.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
不尊重原住民傳統的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
5730.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
5732.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
我覺得你們要第一時間要出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
5732.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
5734.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
很多的原住民族的同胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
5734.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
5736.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
都在看我們原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
5736.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
5738.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
到底在做了什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
5738.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
5740.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
你這樣子是會含了所有原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
5740.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
5742.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
同胞的心啊 好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
5742.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
5744.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
好 謝謝委員知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
5749.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
5751.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
謝謝張宏儒委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
5751.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
5753.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
我們先請廖先生到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
5759.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
5761.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
謝謝主席 麻煩邀請我們副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
5761.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
5763.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
還有馬洛斯董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
5763.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
5765.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
有請副主委還有董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
5767.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
5769.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
5769.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
5771.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
延續宏儒委員剛剛有提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
5771.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
5773.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
也是我關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
5773.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
5775.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
就是我們這個藍語跟巴丹島的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
5775.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
5777.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
這個連結嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
5777.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
5779.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
那除了單次的活動之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
5779.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
5781.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
我們更希望看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
5781.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
5783.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
後續無論是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
5783.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
5785.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
民族情感的持續的交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
5785.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
5787.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
甚至是擴大到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
5787.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
5789.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
國家的整體的利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
5789.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
5791.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
也能夠藉由這樣子的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
5791.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
5793.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
去做到外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
5793.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
5795.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
或者是相關可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
5795.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
5797.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
漁權上面的一個互助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
5797.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
5799.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
那能不能先 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
5799.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
5801.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
就這兩方面來說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
5801.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
5803.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
第一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
5803.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
5805.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
民族的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
5805.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
5807.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
文化交流循根 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
5807.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
5809.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
那除了這一次之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
5809.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
5811.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
那後續有沒有一些定期的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
5811.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
5813.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
活動讓這一次的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
5813.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
5815.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
不是只是可能後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
5815.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
5817.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
拍拍紀念影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
5817.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
5819.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
然後做個紀念 |
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就沒有了 我想這應該 |
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5821.66 |
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也不是說族人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
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5825.66 |
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期待 或者說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
5825.66 |
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5827.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
我們現在有沒有在爭取相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
5827.66 |
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5829.66 |
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預算希望未來能夠做更深層的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
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連結 或者說 |
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5831.66 |
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5833.66 |
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就是我們過去 未來有沒有一些 |
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5833.66 |
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5835.66 |
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邀訪的計畫 |
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5837.66 |
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仍然好凶 本來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
5837.66 |
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5839.66 |
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互相不能做到我們去 |
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5839.66 |
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5841.66 |
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他們也來讓我們才能看得到 |
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5841.66 |
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5843.66 |
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這樣的成果是雙方都是 |
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5843.66 |
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5845.66 |
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期待看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
5845.66 |
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5847.66 |
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情感連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
5847.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
5849.78 |
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我想未來原民會是會運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
5849.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
5851.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
南島文化交流中長城的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
5851.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
5853.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
來爭取預算 來做跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
5853.78 |
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5855.78 |
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支援的運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
5855.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
5857.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
我們會持續地辦理這個傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
5857.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
5859.78 |
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這個後來人才的培育 |
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5859.78 |
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5861.78 |
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實際一點的方向可能會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
5861.78 |
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5863.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
實際的做法跟群島的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
5863.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
5865.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
互動 我想蘭嶼的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
5865.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
5867.78 |
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族人應該平常 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
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5869.78 |
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經常都有這樣的一個互動啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
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5871.78 |
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那他們事實上之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
5871.78 |
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5873.78 |
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民間或是本來的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
5873.78 |
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5875.78 |
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未來就是現在我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
5875.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
5877.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
現在官方在協助推動嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
5877.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
5879.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
對不對 國家資源進來了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
5879.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
5881.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
當然不希望國家資源就進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
5881.78 |
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5883.78 |
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就一次了嘛 如果說你進來一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
5883.78 |
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5885.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
他們之後就可以常常 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
5885.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
5887.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
這個交流非常密切的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
5887.78 |
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5889.78 |
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我覺得這可能有點不切實際啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
5889.78 |
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5891.78 |
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如果是國家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
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5893.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
中長城計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
5893.78 |
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5895.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
那應該就會有一個具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
5895.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
5897.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
想要做的事項 在裡面你才能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
5897.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
5899.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
編經費嘛 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
5899.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
5901.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
現在有沒有一些初步的構想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
5901.78 |
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5903.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
能夠分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
5902.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
5904.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
謝謝委員 就是我們目前都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
5904.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
5906.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
全力配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
5906.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
5908.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
原民會在原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
5908.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
5910.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
文化上面的推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
5910.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
5912.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
那近期在明年蘭嶼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
5912.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
5914.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
鄉公所也會組織一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
5914.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
5916.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
訪問團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
5916.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
5918.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
繼續延續這個航海 那第二個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
5918.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
5920.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
我們划到巴丹島之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
5920.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
5922.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
這艘船目前是兼備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
5922.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
5924.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
抱歉 剛剛您講那個蘭嶼明年會再 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
5924.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
5926.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
組織一個航海 鄉公所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
5927.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
5929.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
對 鄉公所 是要再過去一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
5929.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
5931.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
對 那另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
5933.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
另外就是我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
5933.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
5935.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
因為現在船在巴丹島 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
5935.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
5937.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
那明年巴丹島的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
5937.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
5939.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
省長他也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
5939.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
5941.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
用那艘船能夠再回來蘭嶼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
5941.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
5943.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
那最主要是我本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
5943.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
5945.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
自己是蘭嶼人 我們過去都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
5945.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
5947.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
划船過去通婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
5947.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
5949.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
然後交易這個農作物 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
5949.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
5951.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
所以如果能夠直航的話 我們在文化上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
5951.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
5953.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
教育觀光的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
5953.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
5955.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
可能就會更密切 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
5955.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
5957.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
所以未來這樣子巴丹島跟蘭嶼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
5957.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
5959.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
之間的航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
5959.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
5961.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
可能會變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
5961.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
5963.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
例行性的常態 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
5963.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
5965.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
當然不是每天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
5965.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
5967.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
可能就每個年度互相來訪這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
5967.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
5969.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
那未來他們也有來的意願 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
5969.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
5971.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
好 那我就覺得這個應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
5971.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
5973.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
如果說大家都認為是一件好的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
5973.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
5975.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
那當然有文化或者是影視上面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
5975.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
5977.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
支持讓大家更認識 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
5977.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
5979.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
加強裡面的連結都很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
5979.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
5981.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
那就是繼續做下去 我想這也是大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
5981.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
5983.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
所期待的 那另外一個就是可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
5983.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
5985.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
會有一部分是民族的情感的連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
5985.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
5987.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
懸根嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
5987.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
5989.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
那另外一部分也是國家化許多的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
5989.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
5991.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
我們剛剛講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
5991.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
5993.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
那尤其是我們可能最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
5992.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
5994.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
以中華民國來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
5994.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
5996.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
跟菲律賓如果說要有衝突的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
5996.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
5998.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
可能就是在漁業方面的衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
5998.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
6000.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
可能是比較大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
6000.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
6002.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
我也覺得說是不是能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
6002.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
6004.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
或許這可能不是原民會的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
6004.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
6006.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
這當然不是你們的業務 這是漁業組的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
6006.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
6008.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
但是既然 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
6008.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
6010.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
這個算是一種外交行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
6010.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
6012.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
我們認為以國家的角度來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
6012.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
6014.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
它是一種外交行為 我們也希望說這樣外交行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
6014.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
6016.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
的友善提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
6016.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
6018.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
對於未來雙方的漁業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
6018.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
6020.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
的談判也能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
6020.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
6022.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
提升可能是你是中華民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
6022.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
6024.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
你是菲律賓 兩個不同的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
6024.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
6026.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
現在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
6027.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
6029.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
自己人 大家是一家人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
6029.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
6031.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
那有些東西是不是沒有必要計較得那麼清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
6031.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
6033.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
6033.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
6035.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
6035.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
6037.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
在未來漁業權的方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
6037.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
6039.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
你有沒有想過有沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
6039.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
6041.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
在這方面來協助國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
6041.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
6043.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
6043.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
6045.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
漁業上面的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
6045.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
6047.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
當然不在我們原文會的權限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
6047.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
6049.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
不過我們在去年邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
6049.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
6051.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
巴丹省的省長的訪問團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
6051.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
6053.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
他們來台灣的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
6053.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
6055.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
有跟漁業署進行一個會談 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
6055.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
6057.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
洽商 那因為過去其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
6057.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
6059.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
這個漁業比較緊張 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
6059.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
6061.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
雙方也談到一些合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
6061.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
6063.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
那這個互相投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
6063.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
6065.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
或者是漁業的輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
6065.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
6067.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
那共享漁業資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
6067.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
6069.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
目前是他們過去是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
6069.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
6071.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
去年是有談到這個部分的面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
6071.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
6073.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
是啊 那這是一個很好的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
6073.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
6075.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
我們不只是做民族情感的連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
6075.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
6077.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
溯源 而是對於現在兩個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
6077.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
6079.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
可能潛在的一些衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
6080.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
6082.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
非原住民族的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
6082.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
6084.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
也可以藉由這樣子的活動來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
6084.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
6086.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
提升 也會獲得更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
6086.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
6088.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
國人的關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
6088.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
6090.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
那我也建議未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
6090.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
6092.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
我們是一個很好的窗口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
6092.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
6094.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
未來如果說可能跟菲律賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
6094.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
6096.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
或者是當地有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
6096.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
6098.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
可以溝通的地方 我覺得我們原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
6098.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
6100.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
如果說我們認為有一些好的管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
6100.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6102.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
我們可以幫國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6102.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6104.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
做訊息的傳遞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6104.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6106.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
我覺得這是未來我們可以繼續來努力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6106.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6108.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
好不好 以上就麻煩 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6107.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6109.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6110.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6112.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
好 謝謝戴信箱委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6121.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6123.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
好 我們下一位請高清素美委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6129.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6131.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
謝謝副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6133.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6135.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
好 大家對於南島與竹行海計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6135.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6137.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
就是八丹島這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6137.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6139.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
大家都有各自不同的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6139.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6141.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
都很好 我想請問一下這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6141.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6143.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
是原民會生成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6143.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6145.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
還是原文會的發想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6148.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6150.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
最早在111年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6150.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6152.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
是那個原文會有跟那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6152.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6154.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
文化部申請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6154.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6156.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
預算大概是1100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6156.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6158.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
所以是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6158.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6160.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
簡單講就是原文會的發起 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6160.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6162.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
後來在114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6162.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6164.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
才又再跟會裡面針對那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6164.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6166.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
115年跟文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6166.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6168.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
111是跟文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6168.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6170.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
111跟文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6170.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6172.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
他們一開始啟動這個航海的這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6172.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6174.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
那所以這個111的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6174.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6176.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
沒有成行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6176.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6178.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
沒有 當時他著重在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6178.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6180.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
灶州 灶這個拼板州 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6180.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6182.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
還有一些相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6182.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6184.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
所以這個計畫應該是111年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6184.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6186.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
一直到現在是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6186.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6188.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
115年完成這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6188.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6190.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
那也就很 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6190.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6192.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
很長的一個計畫了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6192.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6194.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
那請問一下這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6194.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6196.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
你們會內開了多少次會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6202.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6204.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
最少10次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6204.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6206.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
那也就是有完整的開會的紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6206.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6208.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
請問一下完整的開會紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6208.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6210.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
可不可以提供給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6210.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6212.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
因為我為什麼今天會有這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6212.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6214.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
一個專案報告是因為我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6214.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6216.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
這一次我們的行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6216.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6218.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
我覺得太過於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6218.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6220.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
草率 為什麼草率呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6220.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6222.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
因為呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6222.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6224.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
你看你們八單島的直航計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6224.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6226.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
3850塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6227.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6229.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
然後專案管理行政費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6229.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6231.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
750萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6231.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6233.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
編列那麼高的管理會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6233.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6235.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
為什麼這次的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6235.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6237.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
仍然出現重大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6237.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6239.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
缺失 然後你們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6239.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6241.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
也沒有講這個缺失是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6241.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6243.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
你們還只是說這是一個非常成功的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6243.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6245.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
但事實上呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6245.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6247.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
你們航程的規劃執行費是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6247.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6249.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
1150萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6249.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6251.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
然後州體內部結構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6251.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6253.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
遭海浪嚴重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6253.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6255.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
破壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6255.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6257.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
船板的座位也被沖走了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6257.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6259.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
然後船體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6259.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6261.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
持續的在進水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6261.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6263.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
所以呢就沒有辦法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6263.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6265.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
划行了 請問一下你們挑戰的是黑潮啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6267.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6269.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
黑潮不是那麼容易的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6269.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6271.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
你去Google一下黑潮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6271.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6273.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
AI怎麼告訴你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6273.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6275.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
他的潮流是非常險峻的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6275.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6277.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
哪是你們這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6277.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6279.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
可以草草耍帥 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6279.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6281.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
當然會碰到無法繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6281.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6283.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
划行 然後花了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
6283.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6285.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
1000多萬的規劃 你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6285.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6287.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
卻連最安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6287.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6289.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
還有應變都沒有做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6289.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6291.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
請問這是成功嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6291.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6293.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
在今天所有的檢討報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6293.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6295.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
你們也沒有寫啊 未來你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6295.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6297.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
如果還要再做的話 你們還會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6297.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6299.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
面對同樣的問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6299.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6301.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
然後你們原文會給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6301.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6303.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
報告是說你們航程未完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6303.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6305.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6305.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6307.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
護航的船 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6307.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6309.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
叫做青美號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6309.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6311.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
他的發電機故障啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6311.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6313.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
請問一下到底是發電機故障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6313.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6315.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
還是我們這個船體進水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6316.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6318.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
各位報告這個航行當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6318.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6320.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
我們做的非常充分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6320.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6322.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
這個安全評估跟規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6322.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6324.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
讓人不知道挑戰黑潮是一件非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6324.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6326.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
嚴重的事情嗎 達瑞族的族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6326.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6328.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
的前輩 祖先應該都清楚知道啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6328.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6330.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
可能跟我們計畫上當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6330.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6332.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
有一點落差 這個也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6332.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6334.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
請問一下這樣子的一個變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
6334.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6336.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
有沒有在你們的規劃跟討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6336.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6338.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
範圍之內 我再講一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6338.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
6340.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
你們挑戰的是黑潮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
6341.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
6343.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
這個不是普通的一個洋流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
6343.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
6345.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
我們在籌辦的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6345.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6347.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
當然這應變的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
6347.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
6349.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
是有充分的討論啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
6349.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
6351.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
請問一下到底是你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
6351.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
6353.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
護航的船發電機故障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
6353.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
6355.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
還是船體進水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6355.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6357.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
還是你們發現黑潮不是那麼好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
6357.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
6359.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
容易挑戰的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
6360 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
6362 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
因為他們發出去以後發現到那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
6362 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
6364 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
那個湧浪比你想的還要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
6364 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
6366 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
發現倒是就滑出去才發現嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
6366 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
6368 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
難道你們在規劃的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
6368 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
6370 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
就不會想到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
6370 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
6372 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
是覺得是可以的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
6372 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
6374 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
我今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
6374 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
6376 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
不想看到我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
6376 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
6378 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
在這邊是針鋒相對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
6378 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
6380 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
我們要的是花了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
6380 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
6382 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
3850萬的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
6382 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
6384 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
有沒有完整的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
6384 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
6386 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
而今天要你們做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
6386 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
6388 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
專案報告就是希望你們能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
6388 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
6390 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
進取教訓下次不要再有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
6390 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
6392 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
這樣的事情發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
6392 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
6394 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
當然做文化的交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
6394 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
6396 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
傳承文化平衡中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
6396 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
6398 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
來自達悟族人不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
6398 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
6400 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
只有一艘啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
6399.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
6401.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
好多艘啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
6401.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
6403.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
而且你們跟巴丹的交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
6403.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
6405.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
也不是三百年來走次啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
6405.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
6407.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
有幾次了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
6407.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
6409.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
所以你們竟然要做這麼大的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
6409.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
6411.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
政治上的宣示 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
6411.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
6413.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
你們總是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
6413.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
6415.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
要有一些規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
6415.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
6417.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
如果你們正式有一些政治上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
6417.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
6419.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
宣示或政治上的意圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
6419.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
6421.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
就是剛剛幾個委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
6421.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
6423.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
你們要有你們的功能啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
6423.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
6425.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
未來在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
6425.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
6427.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
今天你們的報告完全沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
6427.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
6429.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
然後我覺得這個真相 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
6429.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
6431.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
也沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
6431.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
6433.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
就是你剛剛跟我講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
6433.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
6435.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
滑出去我們就發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
6435.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
6437.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
哇這個洋流非常的大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
6437.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
6439.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
所以傳體進水了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
6439.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
6441.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
所以造成說他們安全第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
6441.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
6443.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
我當然了解安全第一啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
6443.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
6445.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
但是你們在滑出去之前都不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
6445.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
6447.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
黑潮的洋流是這麼嚴重的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
6447.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
6449.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
是有評估是有評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
6449.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
6451.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
那評估了為什麼你們的護航船還會發電機沒電 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
6454.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
6456.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
好啦副主委今天不要在這邊了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
6456.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
6458.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
我現在要凸顯的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
6458.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
6460.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
你們根本沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
6460.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
6462.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
好好的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
6462.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
6464.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
你們只是想要完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
6464.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
6466.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
6466.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
6468.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
你知道這件事情如你剛剛所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
6468.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
6470.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
達悟的族人是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
6470.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
6472.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
他的安危 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
6472.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
6474.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
而且裡面的滑船的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
6474.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
6476.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
不全是達悟族人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
6476.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
6478.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
他還有漢族的人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
6478.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
6480.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
還有其他的人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
6480.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
6482.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
如果你們真的是所有的都要我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
6482.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
6484.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
達悟族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
6484.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
6486.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
觀化好訓練好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
6486.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
6488.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
所有都是達悟族人一起參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
6488.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
6490.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
這件事情不是更有意義嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
6490.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
6492.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
好嗎謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
6492.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
6494.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
哈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
6495.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
6497.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
我再講第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
6498.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
6500.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
請你們再把你們的具體的檢討報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
6500.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
6502.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
還有未來要做剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
6502.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
6504.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
有非常多的委員紅路委員也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
6504.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
6506.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
廖先生委員也好都想到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
6506.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
6508.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
你們未來還要做些什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
6508.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
6510.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
我希望原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
6510.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
6512.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
原文會你們做事情的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
6512.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
6514.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
不要雷聲大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
6514.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
6516.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
然後雨點小 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
6516.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
6518.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
然後後續的也沒有想好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
6518.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
6520.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
每一次想做什麼就做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
6520.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
6522.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
我覺得原民會的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
6522.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
6524.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
本來就很少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
6524.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
6527.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
我覺得原民會在操作自己族人的事情的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
6527.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
6529.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
請你們專業一點好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
6529.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
6531.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
另外我要跟您談的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
6531.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
6533.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
原住民族廣播電台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
6533.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
6535.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
基地台的設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
6535.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
6537.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
剛剛紅路委員也說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
6539.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
6541.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
宣傳族人的事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
6541.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
6543.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
你們應該要非常的上手 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
6543.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
6545.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
可是我們看到你們辦活動的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
6545.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
6547.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
是非常的積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
6547.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
6549.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
可是你們最基本的業務管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
6549.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
6551.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
讓人非常的失望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
6551.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
6553.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
107年絕標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
6553.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
6555.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
原廣台基地台設置案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
6555.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
6557.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
預計要10個月之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
6557.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
6559.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
就完工了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
6559.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
6561.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
但是到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
6561.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
6563.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
歷經10年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
6563.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
6565.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
你們完成了三戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
6565.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
6567.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
整體的進度只有15% |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
6567.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
6569.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
請問這10年到底發生了什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
6573.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
6575.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
這10年發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
6577.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
6579.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
我想這個在履約的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
6579.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
6581.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
這個廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
6581.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
6583.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
他已經沒有要繼續履約了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
6583.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
6585.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
那當然在這個過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
6585.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
6587.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
有很多的爭議產生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
6587.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
6589.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
那我們也提報了採購法的101 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
6589.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
6591.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
針對這個廠商的部分來做一些處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
6591.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
6593.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
那後續我們事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
6593.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
6595.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
也可能會再重新採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
6595.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
6597.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
另外就是針對那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
6597.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
6599.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
在這個過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
6599.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
6601.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
有一些相關的損失 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
6601.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
6603.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
會要求這個廠商來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
6603.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
6605.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
郭主任你今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
6605.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
6607.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
剛剛說的這些部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
6607.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
6609.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
10年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
6609.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
6611.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
10年我們就只聽到這樣的答案嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
6611.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
6613.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
原文會你們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
6613.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
6615.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
請問一下誰封管原文會的事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
6615.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
6617.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
哪一位副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
6619.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
6621.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
這個是原文會是不是要監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
6623.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
6625.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
還是原文會自己的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
6626.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
6628.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
6627.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
6629.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
這個工作事實上在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
6629.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
6631.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
你們有三位副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
6631.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
6633.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
誰在負責這一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
6637.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
6639.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
原則上是陳副 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
6639.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
6641.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
蛤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
6641.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
6643.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
陳副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
6643.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
6645.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
那請問他知道這件事情嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
6646.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
6648.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
那請問陳副主委之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
6648.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
6650.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
是誰在封管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
6650.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
6652.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
我剛剛說了107年絕標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
6652.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
6654.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
你剛剛說是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
6654.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
6656.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
廠商的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
6656.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
6658.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
但是這十年來卻沒有人對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
6658.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
6660.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
這個廠商或者是這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
6660.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
6662.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
關心過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
6662.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
6664.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
又不是我在今年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
6664.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
6666.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
預算裡面凍結你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
6666.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
6668.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
預算然後請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
6668.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
6670.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
要求你們要說明是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
6670.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
6672.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
還在拖十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
6673.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
6675.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
請問一下副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
6675.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
6677.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
不會啦那之前是那個中興法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
6677.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
6679.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
他業管這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
6679.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
6681.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
好他已經退休了對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
6681.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
6683.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
那請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
6683.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
6685.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
你們可不可以明確承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
6685.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
6687.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
目前還有17站沒有完成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
6687.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
6689.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
你們是要什麼時候會完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
6690.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
6692.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
好我請那個業務單位來跟委員說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
6692.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
6694.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
6694.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
6696.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
委員好我跟你們報告一下整個原住民主廣播台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
6696.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
6698.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
站台的潮濕進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
6698.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
6700.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
整個中山南基要完成的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
6700.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
6702.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
37站 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
6702.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
6704.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
那目前已經建構完成的是32站 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
6704.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
6706.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
那集中5站 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
6706.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
6708.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
也會在梅山站用他的地形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
6708.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
6710.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
跟用地的取得是非常大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
6710.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
6712.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
目前可能還要再重新規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
6712.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
6714.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
那還有4站在明年中旬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
6714.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
6716.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
一定要完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
6716.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
6718.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
那你們還沒有完成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
6718.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
6720.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
你們要怎麼解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
6720.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
6722.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
剛剛洪部委員已經交停了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
6722.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
6724.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
你們是不是可以橫向聯繫請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
6724.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
6726.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
請其他的部會來幫你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
6726.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
6728.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
其實我們現在在想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
6728.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
6730.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
跟其他的民間廣播台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
6730.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
6732.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
還是國家廣播台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
6732.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
6734.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
在當地的站台我們可以透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
6734.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
6736.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
跟他們掛掛的方式來解決這樣的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
6736.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
6738.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
很好請問一下今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
6738.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
6740.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
質詢完了之後誰要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
6740.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
6742.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
負責這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
6742.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
6744.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
這個事情我會親自來讀到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
6744.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
6746.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
過去一年多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
6746.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
6748.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
我也持續在要求這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
6748.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
6750.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
好所以你的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
6750.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
6752.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
今年會完成全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
6752.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
6754.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
明年會完成全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
6754.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
6756.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
除了梅山站以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
6756.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
6758.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
因為梅山站的確有很大很大問題 |
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因為他的用地取得包括 |
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他的整個地形在整個建構上 |
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是非常困難的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
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那我們現在在判斷梅山可能就沒辦法做 |
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好的 |
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因為時間的關係我們不希望這延宕10年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
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這是族人的收拾權益 |
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另外不好意思 |
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稍微再給我一點點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
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我要問的是今天因為我們有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
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6780.29 |
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原住民基本法的宣法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
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好那麼這個法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
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從94年我上任以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
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我們推動到現在沒有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
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依照現在族人的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
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我們來通膛檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
6790.29 |
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今天終於有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
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那麼我呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
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也提出了15條的修正條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
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預戰全法的四成 |
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這涵蓋了民族會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
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自治制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
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6804.29 |
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綜合發展基金跟傳統領域 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
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6806.29 |
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還有都會原住民的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
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等等重要議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
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6810.29 |
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那以下副主委原民會你們支持嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
6811.51 |
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6813.51 |
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你們支持修法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
6813.57 |
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6815.57 |
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支持但是有些條文我們都有在檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
6815.57 |
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6817.57 |
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那到時候我們再逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
6817.57 |
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6819.57 |
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好沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
6819.57 |
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6821.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
好我今天要先跟你講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
6821.57 |
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6823.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
我一直在講的綜合發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
6823.57 |
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6825.57 |
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我要請教你三個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
6825.57 |
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6827.57 |
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很快很快第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
6827.57 |
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6829.57 |
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有人認為綜合發展基金目前的累積短錯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
6829.57 |
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6831.57 |
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68.7億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
6831.57 |
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6833.57 |
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是因為原民會你今年不善造成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
6833.57 |
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6835.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
你同意這樣的說法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
6838.37 |
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6840.37 |
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我想主要還是進發補償的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
6840.37 |
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6842.37 |
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所以是你們經營不善造成的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
6844.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
6846.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
累積短錯那麼多錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
6846.99 |
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6848.99 |
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應該不是啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
6848.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
6850.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
主要還是進發補償的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
6850.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
6852.99 |
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好第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
6852.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
6854.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
有人認為這個基金的業務不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
6854.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
6856.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
所以呢不需要每年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
6856.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
6858.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
撥補23億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
6858.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
6860.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
你同意嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
6862.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
6866.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
我覺得依法應該要到多少的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
6866.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
6868.13 |
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很好尤其115年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
6868.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
6870.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
我做過主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
6870.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
6872.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
希望我們的行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
6872.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
6874.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
每年能夠23億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
6874.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
6876.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
撥補進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
6876.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
6878.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
6878.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
6880.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
好第三個也有人認為呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
6880.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
6882.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
未來兩年原本要還給 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
6882.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
6884.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
族人的63億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
6884.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
6886.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
他只要還10億就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
6886.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
6888.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
原民會你同意這件事情嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
6889.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
6893.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
我們是持續跟主總這邊來協調說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
6893.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
6895.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
因為當時也有立法院的決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
6895.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
6897.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
我們希望能夠儘快的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
6897.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
6899.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
很好我剛剛以上講的這三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
6899.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
6901.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
我的問題全部都是行政院的見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
6901.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
6903.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
行政院的秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
6903.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
6905.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
就在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
6905.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
6907.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
回答我這樣的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
6908.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
6910.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
當然主計總處說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
6910.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
6914.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
每年年年還給族人10億就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
6914.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
6916.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
當然你也說了這不符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
6916.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
6918.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
立法院的主決議這個主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
6918.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
6920.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
也是我做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
6920.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
6922.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
所以我可以在這邊毫不客氣的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
6922.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
6924.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
6924.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
6926.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
你們就是要霸凌族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
6926.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
6928.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
你們就是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
6928.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
6930.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
霸凌原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
6930.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
6932.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
原民會給你們那麼多的公文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
6932.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
6934.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
再次的請求你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
6934.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
6936.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
請你們撥補完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
6936.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
6938.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
中發基金的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
6938.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
6940.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
要不然中發基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
6940.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
6942.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
真的不能夠做事了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
6942.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
6944.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
但是他只給10億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
6944.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
6946.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
我希望今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
6946.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
6948.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
這是我在這裡最後一次的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
6948.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
6950.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
行政院長沒有聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
6950.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
6952.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
我今天在這裡質詢的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
6952.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
6954.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
還有族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
6954.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
6956.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
我們應該憤怒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
6957.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
6959.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
立法院的主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
6959.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
6961.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
而且這個基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
6961.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
6963.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
剛剛副主委講過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
6963.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
6965.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
是我們族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
6965.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
6967.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
立法通過的禁法補償 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
6967.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
6969.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
本來是3萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
6969.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
6971.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
現在多了3萬變6萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
6971.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
6973.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
6973.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
6975.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
行政院不想要旅行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
6975.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
6977.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
所以就在中和發展基金裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
6977.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
6979.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
給我們研發嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
6980.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
6982.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
然後修理我們的原民會嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
6982.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
6984.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
讓原民會在其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
6984.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
6986.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
業務上不能夠做事嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
6986.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
6988.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
是這樣子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
6988.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
6990.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
如果是這樣子的話行政院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
6990.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
6992.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
你太可惡了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
6992.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
6994.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
我希望今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
6994.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
6996.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
這也是我最後在這邊講到中發基金的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
6996.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
6998.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
最後一次質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
6998.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
7000.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
原民會要硬起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
7000.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
7002.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
您剛剛說過了主決議已經做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
7002.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
7004.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
中和發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
7004.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
7006.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
本來就應該要撥補 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
7007.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
7009.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
7008.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
7010.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
如果我們今天行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
7010.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
7012.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
不撥補完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
7012.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
7014.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
7014.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
7016.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
做多少的主決議也沒有用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
7016.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
7018.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
就算我在原基法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
7018.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7020.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
要修這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7020.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7022.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
我相信他也會不復屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7023.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7025.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
所以原民會我們一起加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7025.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7027.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
跟院裡面溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7027.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7029.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
我們一起加油好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7029.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7031.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
相信院裡面也會考量原民會的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7031.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7032.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7032.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7034.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
你要不要這個大聲的跟行政院長喊話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7034.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7036.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
卓院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7036.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7038.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
希望你聽到我們的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7038.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7040.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
中和發展基金麻煩撥補完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7040.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7042.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
我是認為說院長其實也會努力原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7042.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7044.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
他的需求啦他會按照我們的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7044.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7046.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
來配合啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7046.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7048.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
我剛剛已經問你三個問題了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7048.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
7050.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
你都說第一不是原民會的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7050.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
7052.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
不是你們經營不善 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7052.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7054.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
不是因為你們基金業務不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7054.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7056.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
所以不需要這個錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7056.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
7058.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7057.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
7059.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
主決議也做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7059.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
7061.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
你剛剛也回答我的問題了請勇敢地跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7061.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
7065.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
卓院長說請你不要再霸凌族人了好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7065.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7067.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7074.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7076.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
好下一位請林一金委員發言資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7079.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7081.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7090.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7092.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7092.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7094.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
有請副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7092.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7094.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
原民會副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7097.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7099.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7099.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7101.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
副主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7101.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7103.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
今天很高興看到本席長期關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7103.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
7105.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
希拉亞族 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7105.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7107.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
證明終於要在今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7107.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7109.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
實現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7109.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7111.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
等等行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7111.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7113.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
所以委員會過去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7113.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7115.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
可是我們現在正在吵架 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7115.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7117.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7117.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7119.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
等一下民族核定的典禮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7119.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7121.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
我也會希望去見證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7121.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7123.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
那今天我就儘速 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7123.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7125.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
來問幾個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7125.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7127.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
就是有關於整體比姆族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7127.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7129.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
那還有你未來一些權益的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7129.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7131.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
後續權益的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7131.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7133.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
首先就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7133.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7135.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
希拉亞族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7135.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7137.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
他接下來要面臨登記身份的流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7137.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7139.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
不過我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7139.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7141.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
像台南市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7141.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
7143.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
他已經早就進行了熟住劑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7143.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
7145.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
整個台南市統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7145.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7147.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
到今年六月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7147.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7149.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
有熟住劑的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7149.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7151.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
有1萬1828人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7151.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7153.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
那本席的疑問是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7153.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7155.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
那這些人再來還要再跑一趟嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7155.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
7157.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
那還有就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7157.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7159.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
那之前本席有參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7159.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7161.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
這個新化的這個希拉亞族的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7161.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7163.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
那時候台南市的原民會的主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7163.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7165.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
白惠蘭主委有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7165.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7167.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
他說希拉亞族 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7167.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7169.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
已經是台南市定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7169.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
7171.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
的原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7171.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7173.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
那住劑的資料是同步建置在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7173.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
7175.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
戶政系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7175.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7177.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
那總統頒布後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7177.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7179.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
就是所謂的法律原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7179.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7181.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
就會有法律保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7181.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7183.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
就會配合中央的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7183.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7185.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
那你記得會直接轉正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7185.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7187.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
那本席的理解是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7187.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7189.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
這會省去在民族合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7189.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7191.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
還要再跑一趟戶政事務所 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7191.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7193.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
再去登記這些程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7193.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7195.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
那對主委當然是比較便利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7195.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7197.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7197.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7199.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
中央的原民會是不是有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7199.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7201.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
就是要不要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7201.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7203.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
研擬一些辦法來簡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7203.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7205.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
申請跟登記的流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7205.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7207.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
並對外說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7207.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7209.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7209.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7211.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
事實上我剛也有報告說我們事實上開過兩次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7211.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7213.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
的這種會議就是跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7213.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7215.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
戶政單位要登記的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7215.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7217.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
這個程序那簡化流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7217.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7219.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
當然也是我們在討論的議題裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7219.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7221.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
這裡面有一些就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7221.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7223.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
在當時在台南有登記的他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7223.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7225.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
並不全然都是希臘亞族 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7225.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7227.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
所以可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7227.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7229.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
也可能不是像委員講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7229.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7231.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
全部的都一起都可以做什麼樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7231.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7233.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
當然我們會從簡變的方式去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7233.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7235.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
去進行看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7235.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7237.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
簡輕那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7237.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7239.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
那個族人在這個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7239.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7241.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
所以你的意思是說他們還要再做一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7241.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7243.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
沒有我們會看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7243.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7245.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
看是什麼樣的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7245.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7247.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
事實上這個簡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7247.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7249.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
簡變的這件事情我們事實上有在考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7249.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7251.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
這樣應該怎麼樣讓他們更 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7251.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7253.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
不用那麼那麼複雜來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7253.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7255.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
這個登記的動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7255.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7257.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
好謝謝就是本席建議就是還盡量以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7257.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7259.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
變名為主啦那也請原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7259.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7261.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
思考一下就是什麼跟台南市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7261.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7263.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
然後屏東市他們這些有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7263.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7265.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
先進行這個戶政資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7265.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7267.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
的登記有熟住劑的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7267.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7269.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
那現在先是也溝通一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7269.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7271.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
因為這次大概就是花蓮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7271.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7273.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
台東屏東台南 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7273.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7275.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
好像再上去一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7275.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7277.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
這個區塊大概都會有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7277.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7279.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
身分登記的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7279.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7281.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
跟地方政府要做一些溝通有一致性的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7281.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7283.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
那好下一個議題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7283.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
7285.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
有關於教育喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
7285.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
7287.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
經過了解就是除了台南市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
7287.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
7289.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
已經完成這個新版的原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
7289.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
7291.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
學生獎助學金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
7291.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
7293.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
申請作業須知 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
7293.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
7295.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
的整並那明確並入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
7295.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
7297.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
這個平埔原住民族學生外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7297.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
7299.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
那其他地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
7299.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
7301.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
都辦都還在救治嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
7301.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
7303.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
那沒有將這個平埔原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
7303.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
7305.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
的權益納入這個獎補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
7305.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
7307.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
的制度那全國現在各縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
7307.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
7309.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
這個存在的標準不一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
7309.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
7311.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
那講助辦法也不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
7311.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
7313.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
那恐怕會造成跨縣市的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
7313.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
7315.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
學生這個權益有落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
7315.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
7317.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
那也嚴重違反 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
7317.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
7319.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
所謂的憲判意旨跟立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
7319.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
7321.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
目的譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
7321.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
7323.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
台北市的高雄市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
7323.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
7325.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
高雄市的北邊的行政區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
7325.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
7327.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
像這個茄町 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
7327.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
7329.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
湖內它很多的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
7329.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
7331.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
其實都到台南市來讀書 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
7331.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
7333.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
可是他們可能因為沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
7333.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
7335.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
涉及到台南市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
7335.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
7337.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
那高雄又沒有針對平埔原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
7337.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
7339.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
設這個獎助學金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
7339.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
7341.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
那就會產生落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
7341.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
7343.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
我舉這個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
7343.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
7345.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
所以本席認為說我們人民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
7345.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
7347.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
作為主管機關我們不能坐視這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
7347.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
7349.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
制度來有點失衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
7349.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
7351.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
我們應該要主導全國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
7351.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
7353.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
一致性的這個指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
7353.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
7355.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
或者是法治協調來為附這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
7355.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
7357.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
平埔原住民他這個學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
7357.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
7359.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
獎助學金的這個權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
7359.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
7361.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
那雖然這是地方事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
7361.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
7363.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
可是我們也是要建議原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
7363.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
7365.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
我們應該要督導跟來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
7365.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
7367.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
進一協調各地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
7367.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
7369.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
這個原民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
7369.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
7371.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
這些原民的相關局處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
7371.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
7373.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
我覺得還是建議可以比照 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
7373.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
7375.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
台南市政府的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
7375.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
7377.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
那由原民會來進行所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
7377.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
7379.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
必要的這個行政指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
7379.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
7381.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
市長你對於這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
7381.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
7383.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
副主委你怎麼看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
7383.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
7385.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
我想我們會彙整相關的這個訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
7385.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
7387.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
不管台南已經發了或其他縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
7387.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
7389.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
是什麼情況這裡面一個很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
7389.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
7391.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
他是涉及到地方制度法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
7391.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
7393.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
他們願意發以現在的法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
7393.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
7395.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
來講按照平埔主體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
7395.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
7397.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
身份法的23條我們是要再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
7397.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
7399.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
做相關權益的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
7399.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
7401.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
規範啦那這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
7401.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
7403.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
他們有的人已經先行做這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
7403.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
7405.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
我們當然是支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
7405.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
7407.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
但是其他縣市是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
7407.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
7409.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
應該比照辦理我們再來協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
7409.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
7411.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
因為這個關係到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
7411.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
7413.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
財源的問題因為人數不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
7413.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
7415.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
多少你像說你們都要辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
7415.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
7417.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
等一下說進來說3萬人都說我不可能有這個錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
7417.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
7419.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
現在不知道會有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
7419.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
7421.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
所以這個我們會整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
7421.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
7423.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
以後然後再跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
7423.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
7425.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
來協調說如果他們要做這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
7425.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
7427.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
你可以比照台南市來先行來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
7427.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
7429.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
如果說可以知道人數的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
7429.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
7431.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
可以先做這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
7431.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
7433.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
我們來研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
7433.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
7435.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
謝謝副主委謝謝好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
7442.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
7444.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
我們下一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
7444.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
7446.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
先跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
7446.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
7448.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
代李博義委員詢答完後處理臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
7448.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
7450.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
我們下一位請吳七鳴委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
7461.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
7463.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
好主席我們一位同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
7463.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
7465.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
請我們的副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
7468.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
7470.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
7471.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
7473.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
當初我們三陰縣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
7473.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
7475.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
三陰捷運縣當初我們共同努力爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
7475.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
7477.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
就是原住民的圖騰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
7477.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
7479.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
打造一個原住民的圖騰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
7479.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
7481.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
就是在我們的台北大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
7481.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
7483.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
那現在都已經設立了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
7483.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
7485.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
那整個車廂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
7485.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
7487.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
外面的圖騰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
7487.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
7489.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
的彩繪類車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
7489.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
7491.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
也都一一實現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
7491.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
7493.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
那我們在我們新北 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
7493.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
7495.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
新北目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
7495.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
7497.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
搭乘那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
7497.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
7499.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
T-Pass |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
7499.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
7501.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
T-Pass |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
7501.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
7503.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
那個人數現在北北基 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
7503.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
7505.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
所調的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
7505.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
7507.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
有五十多萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
7507.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
7509.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
那未來我們新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
7509.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
7511.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
有很多的捷運路線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
7511.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
7513.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
那未來是不是可以朝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
7513.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
7515.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
三陰縣這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
7515.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
7517.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
路線的圖騰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
7517.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
7519.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
還有那個彩繪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
7519.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
7521.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
是不是可以比照 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
7521.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
7523.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
我們來努力來研議看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
7523.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
7525.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
朝這個方向來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
7525.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
7527.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
因為這是先打 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
7527.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
7529.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
我們原住民是最快的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
7529.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
7531.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
你看啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
7531.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
7533.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
透過這個大眾捷運系統是最方便的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
7533.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
7535.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
對 你看一個月就五十多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
7535.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
7537.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
那五十多萬人在搭乘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
7537.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
7539.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
那真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
7539.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
7541.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
滿驚人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
7541.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
7543.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
那未來你要推廣原住民的文化也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
7543.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
7545.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
7545.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
7547.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
的種種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
7547.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
7549.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
的先導都是非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
7549.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
7551.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
快的速度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
7551.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
7553.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
那未來應該是朝這個方向來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
7553.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
7555.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
好 我們努力 謝謝委員指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
7555.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
7557.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
那本席比較關心的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
7557.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
7559.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
我們以前我們都常常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
7559.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
7561.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
在推動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
7561.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
7563.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
就是一個機會所 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
7564.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
7566.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
那在新北我們原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
7566.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
7568.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
7568.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
7570.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
也算是滿多 有六萬多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
7570.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
7572.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
那在我的選區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
7572.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
7574.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
我的選區密集度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
7574.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
7576.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
也算是非常高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
7576.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
7578.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
那我們現在是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
7578.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
7580.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
三峽的北大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
7580.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
7582.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
那邊有設立一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
7582.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
7584.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
就是我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
7584.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
7586.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
園域廣場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
7586.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
7588.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
是不是 是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
7589.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
7591.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
那園域廣場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
7592.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
7594.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
在土城這一邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
7594.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
7596.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
還是樹林這一邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
7596.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
7598.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
是不是我們未來還是要每一個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
7598.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
7600.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
都有一個園域廣場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
7600.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
7602.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
讓我們原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
7602.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
7604.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
不用每次的集會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
7604.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
7606.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
每次的活動都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
7606.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
7608.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
透過我們的理辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
7608.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
7610.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
這邊去跟人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
7610.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
7612.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
那你要是我們原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
7612.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
7614.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
至於有個廣場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
7614.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
7616.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
至於可以來那邊辦活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
7616.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
7618.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
我認為這是應該比較適當 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
7620.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
7622.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
是 原則上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
7622.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
7624.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
要廣場的設立當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
7624.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
7626.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
族人應該會有這方面的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
7626.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
7628.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
這是無庸置疑 但是可能要考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
7628.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
7630.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
那個位置有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
7630.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
7632.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
適當的位置 另外就是說族人有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
7632.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
7634.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
在那個區域 我想這都是未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
7634.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
7636.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
要去做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
7636.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
7638.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
爬梳的一些數據來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
7638.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
7640.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
考量說要設在什麼地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
7640.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
7642.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
而且它事實上這個設了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
7642.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
7644.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
族人的可及性可利用性是非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
7644.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
7646.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
高的 那這個設了才會有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
7646.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
7648.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
那朝這個方向去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
7648.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
7650.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
進行我們會努力啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
7650.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
7652.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
當時我們設立的是透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
7652.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
7654.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
我們當地的居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
7654.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
7656.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
都可以共同來使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
7656.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
7660.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
但是我們原住民是優先的使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
7660.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
7664.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
管理上也是我們原住民來做管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
7665.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
7667.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
那你整個我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
7667.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
7669.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
地方上大家都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
7669.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
7671.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
來出借 那這樣就可以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
7671.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
7673.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
不會像以前的文字館 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
7673.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
7675.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
這是一個非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
7675.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
7677.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
大家共同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
7677.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
7679.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
共同去使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
7679.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
7681.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
那使用率都會很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
7683.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
7685.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
那未來是不是可以朝這個方向來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
7685.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
7687.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
好 我們朝這個方向來研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
7687.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
7689.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
來調查相關數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
7689.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
7691.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
看有沒有適合的點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
7691.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
7693.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
我覺得那個點很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
7693.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
7695.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
因為有時候土地在都市地區土地要取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
7695.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
7697.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
蠻困難的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
7696.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
7698.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
對 因為現在在我們山英 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
7698.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
7700.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
山英這個季度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
7700.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
7702.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
真的是原住民非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
7702.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
7704.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
那原住民非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
7704.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
7706.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
像是士林還有我們土城 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
7706.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
7708.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
那本席這邊是土城 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
7708.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
7710.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
那土城我們當初在推動原住民公園 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
7710.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
7712.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
那原住民公園也設立了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
7712.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
7714.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
但是就是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
7714.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
7716.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
延曆廣場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
7716.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
7718.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
就是還沒辦法去設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
7719.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
7721.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
這我也是多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
7721.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
7723.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
跟我們原民會來做爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
7723.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
7725.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
那後來還是沒辦法去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
7725.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
7727.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
很順暢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
7727.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
7729.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
來設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
7729.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
7731.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
這一點是我們真的原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
7731.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
7733.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
我們原委會真的要來做檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
7733.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
7735.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
好 那事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
7735.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
7737.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
我們也有相關的計畫目前也在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
7737.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
7739.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
那剛剛委員提的這個可能在那個計畫裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
7739.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
7741.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
也有機會來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
7741.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
7743.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
使用這個相關預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
7743.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
7745.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
但是要看我剛剛講前面那些評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
7745.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
7747.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
到底有沒有適合的位置 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
7747.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
7749.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
還有原住民的人口數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
7749.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
7751.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
在那個地方有沒有可及性可利用性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
7751.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
7753.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
這都是我們要去評估的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
7753.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
7755.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
要是人數的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
7755.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
7757.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
土城那邊是絕對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
7757.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
7759.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
是沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
7758.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
7760.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
這一點是我們要共同來努力好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
7760.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
7762.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
7762.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
7764.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
7770.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
7772.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
好抱歉 跟委員會更正報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
7772.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
7774.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
那代本會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
7774.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
7776.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
王侯威委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
7776.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
7778.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
詢答完後再處理臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
7778.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
7780.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
我們下一位請政天才委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
7794.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
7796.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
7796.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
7798.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
7798.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
7800.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
還有我們就請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
7800.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
7802.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
梅莊處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
7803.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
7805.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
7805.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
7807.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
抱歉抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
7807.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
7809.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
因為處長坐很久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
7809.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
7811.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
副主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
7811.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
7813.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
委員好 今天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
7813.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
7815.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
作案報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
7816.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
7818.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
主要在你們的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
7819.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
7821.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
海陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
7820.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
7822.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
南島宇族航海計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
7823.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
7825.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
這裡面提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
7826.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
7828.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
台灣來亞美族島務組 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
7828.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
7830.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
菲律賓巴丹島群島之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
7830.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
7832.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
歷史海上交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
7832.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
7834.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
這非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
7835.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
7837.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
我非常支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
7837.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
7839.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
但是我的重點在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
7840.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
7842.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
7841.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
7843.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
有沒有用到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
7843.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
7845.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
這個教文處的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
7847.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
7849.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
7849.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
7851.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
這個言文會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
7851.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
7853.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
以言這方面的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
7854.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
7856.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
足以得經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
7856.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
7858.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
好 我請那個右當跟委員說說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
7861.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
7863.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
謝謝 我這個有關這次海陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
7863.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
7865.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
南島宇族航海計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
7865.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
7867.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
這個部分是用我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
7867.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
7869.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
過去中央過於方案的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
7869.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
7871.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
來可以支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
7871.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
7873.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
有沒有足以得經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
7873.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
7875.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
有用在過於方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
7875.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
7877.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
7877.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
7879.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
7878.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
7880.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
非常不認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
7880.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
7882.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
7881.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
7883.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
我們以言的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
7883.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
7885.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
就是要去讓我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
7885.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
7887.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
足以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
7887.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
7889.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
7888.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
7890.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
能夠傳承 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
7890.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
7892.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
讓我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
7892.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
7894.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
7894.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
7896.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
我們的小朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
7896.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
7898.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
7898.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
7900.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
好 接下來這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
7901.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
7903.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
世界原住民族傳統運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
7905.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
7907.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
這個有沒有用到原住民族以言的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
7910.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
7914.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
這個也是我們這個過於方案的計畫裡面的一個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
7916.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
7918.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
這個部分啊 我有參加這個運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
7921.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
7923.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
真的很遺憾啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
7923.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
7925.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
我真的是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
7925.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
7927.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
請言明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
7927.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
7929.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
足以就要真正用在足以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
7930.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
7932.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
變了那麼多錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
7932.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
7934.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
不只是這個了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
7934.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
7936.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
很多的活動啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
7936.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
7938.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
你們就是用足以的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
7939.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
7941.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
啊 他只要掛個足以兩個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
7942.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
7944.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
7943.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
7945.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
7945.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
7947.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
美中副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
7947.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
7949.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
這個業務不是你負責督導的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
7949.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
7951.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
7951.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
7953.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
有接觸啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
7953.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
7955.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
不是 我說那個公文成合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
7955.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
7957.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
不是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
7959.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
7961.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
所以你無法了解了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
7961.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
7963.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
我們非常非常多的足以的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
7963.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
7965.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
就投入在這些活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
7967.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
7969.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
沒有真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
7969.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
7971.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
落實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
7971.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
7973.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
7973.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
7975.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
7975.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
7977.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
還有這個小朋友的身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
7980.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
7982.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
這個請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
7982.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
7984.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
7983.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
7985.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
還有言明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
7985.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
7987.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
還有言文會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
7987.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
7989.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
針對這一次這兩個大活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
7990.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
7992.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
所提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
7992.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
7994.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
有關足以的經費的投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
7994.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
7996.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
能夠提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
7996.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
7998.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
提供這個相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
7998.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
8000.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
數據 可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
8001.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
8003.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
8004.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
8006.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
足以的傳承 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
8007.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
8009.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
就教於文化處而言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
8010.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
8012.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
很重要很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
8012.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
8014.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
重中之重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
8014.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
8016.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
重中之重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
8016.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
8018.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
你看我們這個根據教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
8019.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
8023.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
近五年大專校驗學生出債協力的差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
8024.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
8026.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
我們從107學年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
8027.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
8029.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
差距落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
8029.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
8031.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
嚴住民跟非嚴住民的落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
8031.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
8033.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
31.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
8033.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
8035.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
到了113年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
8035.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
8037.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
逐年增高到38.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
8039.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
8041.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
這樣的一個落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
8041.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
8043.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
這麼大差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
8044.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
8046.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
隊友們的嚴住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
8046.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
8048.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
而言啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
8049.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
8051.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
教育是重中之重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
8052.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
8054.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
8053.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
8055.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
所以這個部分啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
8055.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
8057.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
你們應該寧可把這些經費投入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
8058.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
8060.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
投入到那邊去啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
8061.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
8063.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
8062.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
8064.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
如果你們沒有經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
8064.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
8066.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
你們去積極溝通協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
8067.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
8069.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
就愛普通啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
8070.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
8072.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
這才是重中之重啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
8075.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
8077.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
所以這個部分真的要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
8077.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
8079.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
好好的去溝通協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
8079.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
8081.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
相關的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
8081.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
8083.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
無論是教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
8082.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
8084.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
還有研民會這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
8084.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
8086.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
怎麼樣能夠去加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
8086.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
8088.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
嚴住民族教育的提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
8091.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
8093.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
各位嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
8092.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
8094.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
可以 可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
8094.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
8096.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
那是不是可以請業務單位說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
8096.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
8098.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
在說明什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
8098.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
8100.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
那個差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
8100.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
8102.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
38那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
8103.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
8105.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
有錯誤嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
8105.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
8107.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
這是絕對不提供給我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
8107.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
8109.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
我們一直說那個裡面有一些原因啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
8109.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
8111.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
原因你順便提供給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
8111.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
8113.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
8113.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
8115.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
好這個研究法今天要討論的18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
8117.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
8119.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
8120.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
8122.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
8122.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
8124.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
主計單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
8124.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
8126.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
主計處有沒有來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
8129.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
8131.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
8130.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
8132.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
8131.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
8133.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
這個研究法是18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
8133.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
8135.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
中和發展基金的法源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
8135.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
8137.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
這裡面提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
8137.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
8139.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
我們要修正100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
8139.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
8141.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
不是要去增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
8141.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
8143.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
我們是要讓政府要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
8143.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
8145.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
返還 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
8145.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
8147.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
返還了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
8147.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
8149.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
返還這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
8149.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
8151.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
我們曾經的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
8152.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
8154.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
嚴住民族中和發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
8155.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
8157.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
105年度的結算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
8158.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
8160.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
淨值是117億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
8161.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
8163.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
這個是我在閻名神政府的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
8165.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
8167.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
應審議員的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
8168.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
8170.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
成立了這個基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
8170.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
8172.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
每年變幾億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
8173.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
8175.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
精神之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
8175.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
8177.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
嚴住民族的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
8177.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
8179.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
我正好也帶了中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
8179.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
8181.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
8180.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
8182.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
每年變幾億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
8182.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
8184.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
才有到105年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
8185.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
8187.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
結算數是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
8187.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
8189.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
淨值是117億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
8189.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
8191.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
7000多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
8191.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
8193.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
那當然是很遺憾的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
8194.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
8196.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
嚴明會把它挪用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
8196.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
8198.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
作為嚴住民族中和發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
8199.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
8201.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
總共挪用了53億多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
8202.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
8204.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
將近54億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
8204.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
8206.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
挪用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
8207.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
8209.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
8208.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
8210.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
在106年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
8210.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
8212.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
做了一個結議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
8213.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
8215.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
那個副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
8215.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
8217.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
106年是民進黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
8217.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
8219.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
絕對多數的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
8220.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
8222.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
他們也認同通過了這個主結議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
8224.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
8226.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
要反環的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
8226.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
8228.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
因為是違反挪用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
8229.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
8231.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
因為它不符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
8231.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
8233.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
嚴住民族基本法18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
8233.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
8235.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
進法補償 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
8235.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
8237.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
是不符合嚴基法18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
8237.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
8239.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
基金的用途 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
8240.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
8242.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
所以要反環 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
8242.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
8244.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
到現在沒有反環 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
8245.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
8247.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
我們沒有辦法增加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
8248.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
8250.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
所以我們只好立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
8251.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
8253.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
要回到當初 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
8254.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
8256.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
當初無論是神演 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
8256.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
8258.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
8257.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
8259.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
過去的嚴住民立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
8259.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
8261.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
的目標就是100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
8261.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
8263.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
如果有這個100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
8264.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
8266.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
嚴住民族的相關住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
8268.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
8270.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
在都會期的就可以依住宅法第四 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
8270.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
8272.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
第二條的第四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
8274.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
8276.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
設嚴住民族的專屬的社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
8278.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
8280.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
這個法已經通過很多年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
8280.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
8282.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
你們都沒有執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
8282.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
8284.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
為什麼沒有錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
8284.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
8286.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
如果有這個基金的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
8287.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
8289.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
8288.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
8290.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
花個兩億新建 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
8291.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
8293.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
或者是架構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
8292.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
8294.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
就像汐止的花中新村 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
8294.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
8296.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
就是架構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
8296.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
8298.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
成為一個社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
8299.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
8301.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
然後他後來租金收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
8303.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
8305.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
對不對,會有租金收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
8305.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
8307.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
8306.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
8308.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
回到這個基金裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
8309.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
8311.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
很重要很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
8311.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
8313.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
所以期盼我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
8313.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
8315.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
或是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
8316.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
8318.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
我們立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
8318.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
8320.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
能夠通過這個原基法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
8320.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
8322.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
8321.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
8323.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
反環 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
8323.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
8325.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
我們在法律裡面明定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
8325.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
8327.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
因為我們不能審查預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
8327.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
8329.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
去增加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
8329.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
8331.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
我們只好在法律裡面明定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
8331.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
8333.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
好,我們這個時間的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
8334.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
8336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
昨天在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
8335.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
8337.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
經濟委員會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
8337.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
8339.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
上坡地保育利用條例37條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
8339.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
8341.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
我的修正條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
8341.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
8343.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
增加部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
8342.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
8344.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
在我們的原住民族的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
8346.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
8348.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
本來就要原住民個人的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
8348.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
8350.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
也有部落的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
8351.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
8353.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
8353.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
8355.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
人民會說反對不同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
8355.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
8357.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
把引用了什麼土地法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
8358.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
8360.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
8360.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
8362.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
8362.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
8364.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
現在增化邊緣住民保留地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
8364.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
8366.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
沒有法律的意計 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
8366.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
8368.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
當時的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
8368.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
8370.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
當時的省政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
8370.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
8372.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
現在還要繼續增化邊保留地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
8372.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
8374.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
沒有土地法的意計 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
8374.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
8376.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
沒有法律的意計 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
8377.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
8379.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
現在我們要立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
8379.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
8381.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
你們竟然不同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
8381.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
8383.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
然後不是沒有法律意計 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
8385.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
8387.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
我們再 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
8387.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
8389.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
研究法第2條之1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
8389.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
8391.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
就民電啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
8391.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
8393.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
研究法第2條之1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
8393.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
8395.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
部落就是公法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
8395.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
8397.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
他怎麼會不符合土地法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
8398.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
8400.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
不符合相關的法律呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
8400.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
8402.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
8401.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
8403.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
但是很可惜啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
8403.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
8405.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
很遺憾啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
8405.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
8407.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
很遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
8405.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
8407.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
研究法第2條之1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
8407.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
8409.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
104年12月16號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
8410.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
8412.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
民電 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
8411.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
8413.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
然後授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
8413.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
8415.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
要訂這個部落公法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
8415.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
8417.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
能設置辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
8417.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
8419.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
到現在都沒有訂出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
8419.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
8421.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
那麼簡單的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
8422.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
8424.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
所以這個部份的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
8424.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
8426.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
當然今天主委不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
8425.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
8427.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
但是副主委很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
8428.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
8430.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
我過去當副主委的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
8433.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
8435.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
到處去協調相關的部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
8435.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
8437.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
甚至去協調政務委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
8440.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
8442.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
甚至去協調政務委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
8442.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
8444.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
包括現在研文會之所以設置條例會通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
8444.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
8446.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
也是我去協調林旺益政務委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
8449.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
8451.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
你有沒有去協調過哪個政務委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
8452.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
8454.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
8453.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
8456.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
原則上是跟我們督導的政務委員會有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
8456.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
8460.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
要去拜託要去溝通要去說服 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
8461.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
8463.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
只有靠這個了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
8463.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
8465.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
就要去拜託要去說服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
8466.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
8468.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
包括地方制度法當初的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
8468.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
8470.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
要變成五都的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
8470.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
8472.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
我去協調林宗生當時的次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
8472.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
8474.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
才完成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
8475.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
8477.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
所以這個部份的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
8477.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
8479.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
8478.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
8480.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
要去加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
8480.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
8482.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
副主委很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
8482.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
8484.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
常務副主委更重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
8484.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
8486.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
8493.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
8495.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
我們現在會請李博義召委發言諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
8506.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
8508.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
好謝謝有請副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
8511.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
8513.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
跟委員會報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
8513.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
8515.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
今天立法院很忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
8515.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
8517.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
包含教文現在也在表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
8517.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
8519.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
包含樓上這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
8520.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
8522.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
院長也主持協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
8522.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
8524.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
有關我們內政委員會的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
8524.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
8526.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
所以時間上也 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
8526.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
8528.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
跟各位委員拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
8528.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
8530.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
時間上精準一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
8530.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
8536.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
那今天感謝召委排審原住民基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
8536.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
8538.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
以及原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
8538.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
8540.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
那原住民基本法跟原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
8540.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
8542.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
跟今天主委所的行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
8542.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
8544.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
剛好沒有辦法碰到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
8544.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
8546.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
主委今天去參加什麼行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
8546.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
8548.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
那個希拉雅的正名記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
8548.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
8550.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
還有院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
8550.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
8552.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
那其實就跟今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
8552.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
8554.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
所要排審的這些內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
8554.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
8556.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
其實是有高度重疊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
8556.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
8558.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
所以其實我們還是希望等一下主委回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
8558.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
8560.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
做一些討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
8560.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
8562.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
那我想就針對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
8562.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
8564.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
基本法身份法以及我最近所碰到的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
8564.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
8568.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
這些我親眼所看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
8568.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
8570.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
我在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
8570.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
8572.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
在DC訪問的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
8572.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
8574.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
我們的大使安排了我們去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
8574.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
8576.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
中華民國的外使 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
8576.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
8578.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
在DC的使館 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
8578.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
8580.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
就是雙向園 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
8580.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
8582.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
在雙向園門口我就忍不住 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
8582.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
8584.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
跟這個我們的達悟族的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
8584.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
8586.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
這個傳統拼板船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
8586.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
8588.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
我們的那一條達悟族的那一條船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
8588.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
8590.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
拼板舟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
8590.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
8592.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
做了合照那也是今天這個專案報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
8592.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
8594.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
有講到我們今年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
8594.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
8596.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
原民會跟海委會合作去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
8596.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
8598.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
南島語族的航海計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
8598.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
8600.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
那從台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
8600.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
8602.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
這個航海舟到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
8602.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
8604.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
菲律賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
8604.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
8606.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
來那個副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
8606.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
8608.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
這個計畫我也看到包含我們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
8608.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
8610.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
國際協議會以及文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
8610.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
8612.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
也都做了相關的這些記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
8612.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
8614.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
海委會也都做了這些相關的這些記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
8617.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
8619.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
這個故事要怎麼樣才會精彩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
8619.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
8621.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
那是要基金會董事長來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
8621.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
8623.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
董事長來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
8625.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
8627.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
8627.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
8629.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
巴丹跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
8629.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
8631.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
蘭嶼的航海 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
8631.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
8633.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
是整個南島語區擴散的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
8633.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
8635.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
活的動態 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
8635.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
8637.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
所以在蘭嶼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
8637.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
8639.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
其實已經喊了20幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
8639.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
8641.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
要划船過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
8641.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
8643.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
那剛剛有委員提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
8643.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
8645.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
這第一次 有記錄的第一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
8645.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
8647.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
以前不知道怎麼去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
8647.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
8649.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
以前的交流是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
8649.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
8651.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
會到桃園再到馬尼拉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
8651.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
8653.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
但是我們過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
8653.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
8655.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
我們在海上 我們不划 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
8655.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
8657.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
眼睛睜開就已經到巴丹島了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
8657.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
8659.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
所以那個過去的航線 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
8659.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
8661.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
是非常非常密切 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
8661.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
8663.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
不同的兩個國家之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
8663.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
8665.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
我們就斷裂了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
8665.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
8667.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
所以這一次的計畫我們的長老 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
8667.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
8669.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
我們的青年都非常踴躍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
8669.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
8671.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
我們本來只要60個划槳手 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
8671.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
8673.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
報名報到100多個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
8673.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
8675.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
到後來叔叔要協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
8675.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
8677.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
弟弟 弟弟要協調表哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
8677.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
8679.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
先讓我划 我快去世了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
8679.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
8681.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
先讓我去一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
8681.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
8683.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
這個很熱烈啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
8683.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
8685.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
那接下來除了這些記錄之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
8685.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
8687.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
到了菲律賓之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
8687.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
8689.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
那我們還會有繼續往南 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
8689.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
8691.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
往太平洋的這些相關的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
8691.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
8693.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
想法跟計畫嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
8693.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
8695.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
我覺得這個可以跟外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
8695.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
8697.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
多做一些聯繫合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
8697.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
8699.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
讓我們這個文化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
8699.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
8701.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
這些可以交流的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
8701.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
8703.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
可以繼續往外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
8703.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
8705.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
報告委員 明年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
8705.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
8707.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
夏威夷的Hokulea |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
8707.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
8709.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
Hokulea這是航行太平洋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
8709.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
8711.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
Polynesia跟Mihonisia |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
8711.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
8713.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
幾千公里的一個航海團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
8713.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
8715.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
他們明年會來台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
8715.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
8717.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
他們也跟台灣要接觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
8717.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
8719.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
那巴丹島的省長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
8719.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
8721.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
他也希望從巴丹 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
8721.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
8723.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
划回來蘭嶼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
8723.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
8725.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
划回來 這個洋流是可以去可以回來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
8725.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
8727.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
8727.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
8729.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
我們是東北風是往南 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
8731.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
8733.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
所以我們往南到巴丹島 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
8733.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
8735.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
去換航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
8735.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
8737.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
我們大概就是在這個月份 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
8737.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
8739.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
5到8月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
8739.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
8743.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
那從巴丹上來是西南風 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
8743.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
8745.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
所以他們應該會希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
8745.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
8747.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
會在3到5月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
8747.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
8749.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
西南風會順風 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
8749.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
8751.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
那所以這個航海 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
8751.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
8753.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
在明年也會有一些些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
8753.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
8755.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
新的進展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
8755.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
8757.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
我光聽都覺得很精彩 也期待啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
8757.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
8759.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
就是說除了去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
8759.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
8761.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
真的可以再安排回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
8761.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
8763.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
或者是繼續往太平洋這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
8763.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
8765.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
島國去做一些這些交流的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
8765.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
8767.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
這是令人期待的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
8767.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
8769.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
謝謝 謝元明慧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
8769.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
8771.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
那今天我還想要談一個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
8771.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
8773.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
那希望元明慧這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
8773.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
8775.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
可以加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
8775.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
8777.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
我們在原住民就業網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
8777.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
8779.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
看到原Job |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
8779.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
8781.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
他的這些培養的技能班 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
8781.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
8783.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
其實我覺得跟勞動部的這些技能班 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
8783.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
8785.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
可以有高度的結合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
8785.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
8787.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
我希望可以 元明慧可以多鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
8787.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
8789.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
包含我們的這些原住民朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
8789.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
8791.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
可以參加加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
8791.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
8793.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
可以有機會踏入台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
8793.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
8795.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
這些科技業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
8795.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
8797.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
目前台灣現在最缺人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
8797.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
8799.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
那也是最 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
8799.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
8801.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
最夯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
8801.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
8803.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
那也是發展最好的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
8803.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
8805.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
科技業產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
8805.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
8807.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
那這個就業網站目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
8807.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
8809.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
8809.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
8811.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
跟勞動部的這些接軌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
8811.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
8813.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
的狀況怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
8815.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
8817.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
8817.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
8819.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
其實我們現在都是有跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
8819.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
8821.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
勞動部有做合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
8821.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
8823.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
但是我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
8823.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
8825.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
固定都會有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
8825.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
8827.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
跨部會的一個會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
8827.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
8829.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
我們還有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
8829.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
8831.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
像說原住民就業服務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
8831.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
8833.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
我聽你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
8833.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
8835.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
聽你講 我聽你回應前兩句 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
8835.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
8837.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
我先給你具體建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
8837.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
8839.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
你說跨部會的合作會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
8839.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
8841.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
那個就代表不具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
8841.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
8843.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
合作會議 我給你具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
8843.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
8845.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
的建議 在高雄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
8845.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
8847.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
在左營 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
8847.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
8849.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
我們有相當多的原住民朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
8849.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
8851.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
他是聚落 居住在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
8851.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
8853.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
那裡約有六千人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
8853.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
8855.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
就在平山一帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
8855.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
8857.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
那平山這一帶呢 甚至原委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
8857.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
8859.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
也補助了相關的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
8859.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
8861.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
場地 那做一些修繕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
8861.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
8863.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
你知道他離台積電廠區多遠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
8864.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
8866.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
不到一公里啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
8866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
8868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
不到一公里 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
8868.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
8870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
其實那個聚落 這個平山聚落 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
8870.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
8872.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
他其實就在這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
8872.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
8874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
就整個台積電廠區附近 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
8874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
8876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
我很希望你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
8876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
8878.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
可以就 現在是網站上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
8878.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
8880.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
我很希望你們可以就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
8880.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
8882.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
實地上 可以跟勞動部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
8882.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
8884.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
來做這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
8884.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
8886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
原民job |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
8886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
8888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
你們原job這個工作的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
8888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
8890.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
媒合 那可以讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
8890.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
8892.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
我們原民朋友有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
8892.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
8894.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
可以感受到 我們這個聚落 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
8894.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
8896.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
我們在高雄左營 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
8896.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
8898.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
我們這個聚落 居然離半導體產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
8898.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
8900.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
這麼近 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
8901.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
8903.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
我們有沒有機會進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
8903.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
8905.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
我們要去學什麼有機會進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
8905.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
8907.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
我們要怎麼樣進修有機會進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
8907.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
8909.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
我們如果光是透過勞動部不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
8909.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
8911.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
我們透過原民會原委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
8911.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
8913.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
我們還可以協助我們的族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
8913.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
8915.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
可以做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
8915.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
8917.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
可以有機會 我覺得這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
8917.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
8919.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
我希望可以務實實際 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
8919.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
8921.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
的在高雄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
8921.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
8923.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
左營來發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
8923.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
8925.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
這個來 副主委這個請你回應好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
8925.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
8927.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
我先跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
8927.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
8929.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
我們高雄其實也有我們的就業服務站 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
8929.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
8931.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
對這些AI或遊戲相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
8931.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
8933.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
我們會開發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
8933.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
8935.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
我現在講你的這個就業服務站 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
8935.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
8937.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
在前陣 那我講的是左營 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
8937.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
8939.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
這個基地你們也可以好好的利用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
8939.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
8941.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
來副主委你請你回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
8941.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
8943.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
謝謝 市議院委員的提示 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
8943.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
8945.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
針對委員剛講這部分我們會加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
8945.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
8947.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
在地方的這個就業服務養還有我們這個網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
8947.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
8949.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
跟勞動部要怎麼去結合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
8949.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
8951.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
我希望可以實際上看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
8951.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
8953.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
就是針對重點的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
8953.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
8955.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
去做這個媒介 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
8955.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
8957.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
那做這個媒介協助你們的族人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
8957.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
8959.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
來一起可能可以加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
8959.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
8961.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
高雄的半導體產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
8961.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
8963.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
謝謝 謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
8969.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
8971.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
好因為稍等還要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
8971.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
8973.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
這個法案喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
8973.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
8975.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
所以我們大概等巡達完之後再休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
8976.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
8978.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
如果說有任何狀況也歡迎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
8978.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
8980.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
可以隨時提出沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
8980.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
8982.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
那我們下一位請吳立華委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
8991.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
8993.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
謝謝主席有請副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
8996.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
8998.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
很可惜沒有主委在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
8999.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
9001.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
9001.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
9003.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
9004.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
9006.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
特別在內政委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
9006.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
9008.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
邀請原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
9008.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
9010.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
做這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
9010.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
9012.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
專報 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
9012.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
9014.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
但是與此同時此時此刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
9015.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
9017.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
我知道的是在行政院的大禮堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
9017.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
9019.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
有舉辦一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
9019.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
9021.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
希拉亞族民族合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
9021.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
9023.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
暨正名宣告的一個典禮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
9026.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
9028.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
希拉亞族加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
9028.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
9030.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
原住民族的第17族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
9031.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
9033.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
這是何等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
9033.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
9035.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
困難何等重要的一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
9035.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
9037.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
那照理說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
9037.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
9039.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
我們這些原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
9039.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
9041.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
的委員我們是弟兄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
9041.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
9043.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
姐妹我們應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
9043.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
9045.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
要去那個地方共同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
9045.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
9047.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
的來見證這個很 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
9047.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
9049.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
特別的日子但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
9049.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
9051.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
我非常遺憾我沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
9051.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
9053.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
參與我真的非常的遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
9054.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
9056.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
不過呢今天在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
9056.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
9058.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
我要特別提今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
9058.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
9060.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
是7月30號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
9060.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
9062.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
前天7月28號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
9062.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
9064.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
對原住民來講是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
9064.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
9066.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
非常重要的日子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
9066.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
9068.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
因為在1994年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
9069.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
9071.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
那一天我們從 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
9071.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
9073.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
三包正名為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
9073.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
9075.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
9075.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
9077.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
但是經過了這32年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
9077.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
9079.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
9079.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
9081.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
我們有沒有更進步 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
9081.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
9083.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
所以我等一下我特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
9083.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
9085.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
要來複習這一段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
9085.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
9087.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
歷史的關課 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
9087.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
9089.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
那後天呢8月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
9089.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
9091.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
也是非常重要的日子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
9091.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
9093.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
叫做原住民族日 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
9095.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
9097.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
所以從2005年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
9097.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
9099.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
制定這個日子我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
9100.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
9102.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
這些21年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
9102.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
9104.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
我們也看到很多的演變 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
9104.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
9106.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
但是我們到底有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
9106.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
9108.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
變得更好原住民有沒有變得更進步 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
9110.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
9112.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
那回過頭來我們要回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
9112.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
9114.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
1991年這一次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
9114.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
9116.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
修憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
9116.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
9118.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
因為1991年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
9118.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
9120.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
這個中華民國的憲法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
9120.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
9122.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
是在南京一決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
9122.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
9124.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
制定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
9124.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
9126.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
來到台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
9126.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
9128.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
我們常常講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
9127.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
9129.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
這個衣服沒有量身 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
9129.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
9131.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
訂製 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
9131.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
9133.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
修修補補 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
9133.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
9135.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
怎麼補怎麼改 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
9134.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
9136.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
穿起來就是不好看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
9136.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
9138.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
就是不舒服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
9138.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
9140.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
那好不容易1991年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
9140.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
9142.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
為了因應中止動員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
9142.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
9144.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
看亂時期我們終於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
9144.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
9146.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
開始了修憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
9146.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
9148.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
可是這一次的修憲我要特別講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
9148.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
9150.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
當年的這些原權團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
9150.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
9152.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
我們原住民的權益促進會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
9152.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
9154.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
這些團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
9156.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
9158.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
他們把握這一次修憲的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
9158.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
9160.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
好不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
9160.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
9162.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
他們的訴求是什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
9162.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
9164.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
希望用台灣原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
9166.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
9168.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
這六個字來取代 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
9168.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
9170.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
平地三包山地三包 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
9172.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
9174.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
可是完全沒有被接納 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
9176.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
9178.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
到了1992年的第二次修憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
9179.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
9181.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
9181.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
9183.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
國民黨中常會決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
9183.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
9185.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
要把三包改成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
9185.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
9187.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
早住民或先住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
9187.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
9189.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
引起各界 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
9189.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
9191.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
強烈的反彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
9193.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
9197.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
所以原權團體他們特別到國民大會訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
9197.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
9199.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
第一個希望三包 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
9200.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
9202.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
要正名為原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
9203.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
9205.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
所以我們很清楚的看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
9206.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
9208.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
所以當時民進黨的一個國大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
9210.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
9212.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
叫做吳青桂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
9212.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
9216.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
他特別有做出一個第34號的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
9217.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
9219.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
他的提案就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
9219.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
9221.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
希望叫原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
9221.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
9223.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
但是呢不成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
9223.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
9225.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
在二讀以前就被封殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
9225.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
9227.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
同時呢當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
9227.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
9229.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
國民黨的泰雅族委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
9229.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
9231.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
翁文德 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
9231.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
9233.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
他也做了一個第88號的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
9233.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
9235.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
他的版本是寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
9235.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
9237.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
自由地區原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
9239.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
9241.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
有進入到二讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
9241.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
9243.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
但是最後呢也沒有成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
9245.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
9247.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
所以到了第三次的修憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
9247.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
9249.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
全系 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
9248.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
9250.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
9250.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
9252.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
當時的李登輝總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
9252.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
9254.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
他參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
9254.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
9256.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
我們南部原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
9256.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
9258.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
文化園區的文化會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
9258.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
9260.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
他特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
9260.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
9262.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
講出原住民三個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
9263.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
9265.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
我們也看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
9265.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
9267.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
他跟很多台派的國民黨員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
9267.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
9269.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
也希望他們能夠支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
9269.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
9271.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
所以促使了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
9271.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
9273.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
國民黨版的修憲草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
9273.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
9275.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
把三包寫成了原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
9279.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
9281.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
我們也看到七月一號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
9281.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
9283.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
也就是前夕七月二十八號的前夕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
9283.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
9285.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
李前總統在接見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
9285.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
9287.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
原權團體的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
9287.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
9289.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
公報記錄上寫著 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
9289.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
9291.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
當時的國大代表曹啟宏 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
9291.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
9293.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
他有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
9293.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
9295.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
他說李登輝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
9295.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
9297.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
在接見各族代表的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
9297.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
9299.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
當場親口答應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
9299.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
9301.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
不會再做什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
9301.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
9303.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
山地原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
9303.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
9305.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
平地原住民這種區分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
9305.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
9307.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
但是國民黨的黨版修憲案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
9307.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
9309.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
對此仍然不願意放鬆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
9311.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
9313.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
所以我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
9313.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
9315.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
一九九四年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
9315.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
9317.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
最後七月二十八號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
9317.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
9319.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
有兩個提案版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
9319.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
9321.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
一個是陳菊的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
9322.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
9324.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
他的版本是來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
9324.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
9326.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
接納我們原權團體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
9326.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
9328.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
9328.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
9330.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
也就是寫到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
9330.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
9332.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
台灣原住民族六人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
9332.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
9334.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
但是當時國民黨版 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
9334.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
9336.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
提出的叫做自由地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
9336.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
9338.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
平地原住民及 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
9338.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
9340.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
山地原住民各三人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
9341.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
9343.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
所以在這裡特別看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
9343.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
9345.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
在公報上面有一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
9345.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
9347.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
阿美族的國大代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
9347.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
9349.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
林榮輝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
9350.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
9352.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
他有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
9352.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
9354.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
他說在國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
9354.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
9356.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
黨版的提案當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
9356.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
9358.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
內部的討論是基於平地三包 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
9358.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
9360.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
與山地三包的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
9360.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
9362.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
民意分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
9362.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
9364.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
但是他裡面也提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
9364.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
9366.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
他希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
9366.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
9368.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
難道我們會分住在山上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
9368.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
9370.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
叫山地閩南人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
9370.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
9372.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
住在平地的叫平地客家人嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
9372.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
9374.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
所以當時也非常同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
9374.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
9376.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
就是主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
9376.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
9378.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
原住民就是原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
9378.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
9380.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
他也表達了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
9380.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
9382.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
文字叫做為得不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
9382.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
9384.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
他覺得這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
9384.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
9386.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
為得不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
9386.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
9388.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
所以在這個當中我們其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
9388.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
9390.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
可以明確的感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
9390.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
9392.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
像很多的國大代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
9392.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
9394.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
民進黨的賴崑岑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
9394.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
9396.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
也去主張這樣的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
9396.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
9398.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
主張應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
9398.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
9400.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
廢除這種對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
9400.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
9402.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
原住民的殖民遺墟的分類 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
9402.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
9404.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
不論是從清朝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
9404.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
9406.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
清代或者是日本人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
9406.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
9408.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
一直到了國民政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
9408.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
9410.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
這一種希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
9410.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
9412.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
給原住民最起碼的尊嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
9412.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
9414.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
能夠廢除 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
9414.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
9416.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
但是很可惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
9416.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
9418.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
我們可以看到當時的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
9418.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
9420.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
國民大會的代表席次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
9420.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
9422.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
總共是325席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
9422.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
9424.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
國民黨254席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
9424.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
9426.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
民進黨66席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
9426.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
9428.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
5黨5席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
9428.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
9430.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
所以我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
9430.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
9432.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
當時的一個投票的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
9434.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
9436.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
我們看到民進黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
9436.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
9438.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
對於自己的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
9438.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
9440.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
成局的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
9440.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
9442.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
我們可以看到就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
9442.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
9444.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
56票 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
9444.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
9446.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
這56票是怎麼來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
9446.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
9448.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
我要特別說明就是全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
9448.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
9450.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
民進黨的49票 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
9450.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
9452.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
加上全部當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
9452.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
9454.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
原住民國大的7票 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
9455.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
9457.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
總共56票同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
9459.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
9461.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
那在國民黨版的投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
9461.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
9463.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
我們可以發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
9463.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
9465.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
因為國民黨版 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
9465.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
9467.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
是要說自由地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
9467.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
9469.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
平地三包 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
9468.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
9470.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
9470.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
9472.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
在這個當中我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
9472.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
9474.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
即便是原本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
9474.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
9476.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
國民黨如果全部支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
9476.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
9478.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
應該可以通過仍然未通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
9478.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
9480.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
所以重新投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
9480.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
9482.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
之後因為有人離席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
9484.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
9486.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
我特別要交代這一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
9486.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
9488.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
就是要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
9488.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
9490.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
我們現在看到的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
9490.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
9492.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
定案的現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
9492.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
9494.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
也就是那個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
9494.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
9496.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
我們不得已留下來的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
9496.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
9498.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
第四條自由地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
9498.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
9500.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
平地原住民及山地原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
9500.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
9502.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
各三人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
9502.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
9504.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
9504.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
9506.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
原住民沒有放棄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
9506.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
9508.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
2020年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
9508.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
9510.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
我來到立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
9510.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
9512.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
我參與休閒小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
9513.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
9515.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
我就是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
9515.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
9517.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
能夠延續 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
9517.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
9519.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
過去沒有能夠完成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
9519.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
9521.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
這樣的一個使命 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
9521.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
9523.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
但是非常的可惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
9523.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
9525.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
9525.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
9527.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
連署共39人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
9527.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
9529.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
我拿去給所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
9529.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
9531.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
不分黨派的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
9531.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
9533.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
9533.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
9535.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
我只連署到39人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
9535.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
9537.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
連要出立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
9537.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
9539.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
都沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
9539.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
9541.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
黃論要進入公投 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
9541.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
9543.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
所以2024年第二屆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
9543.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
9545.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
我第11屆進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
9545.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
9547.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
我依然提出這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
9547.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
9549.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
休閒提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
9549.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
9551.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
9551.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
9553.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
更少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
9552.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
9554.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
36人連署 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
9555.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
9557.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
依舊沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
9557.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
9559.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
我在這邊很高興今天下午 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
9559.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
9561.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
我們會提出原住民的身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
9561.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
9563.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
我要特別提到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
9563.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
9565.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
國大原來的休閒程序的門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
9565.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
9567.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
就已經很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
9567.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
9569.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
現行休閒程序的門檻更高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
9570.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
9572.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
休閒那麼難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
9572.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
9574.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
那我們就回到原住民身份法去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
9575.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
9577.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
我們主張山地原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
9577.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
9579.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
平地原住民平埔原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
9579.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
9581.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
南島語系的民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
9581.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
9583.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
原住民就是原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
9583.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
9585.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
9585.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
9587.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
7月30號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
9586.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
9588.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
希拉里亞族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
9588.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
9590.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
他能夠正式加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
9590.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
9592.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
原住民族的第17族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
9592.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
9594.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
這是一個非常非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
9594.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
9596.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
重要的日子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
9596.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
9598.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
9598.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
9600.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
平埔族希拉里亞加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
9600.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
9602.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
都這麼難了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
9602.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
9604.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
所以今天的原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
9604.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
9606.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
我有一個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
9607.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
9609.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
就是第7條的第二項的增列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
9610.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
9612.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
我希望取消落日條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
9614.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
9616.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
9615.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
9617.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
我剛剛講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
9617.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
9619.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
連希拉里亞族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
9619.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
9621.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
要加入原住民的大家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
9621.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
9623.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
就這麼難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
9623.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
9625.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
我們應該讓父母本來可以取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
9625.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
9627.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
9627.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
9629.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
卻因為他們已經死亡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
9629.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
9631.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
導致無法依父母身份取得原住民身份的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
9631.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
9633.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
9633.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
9635.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
他們也可以用傳統名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
9635.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
9637.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
取得原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
9637.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
9639.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
取消這個落日條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
9639.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
9641.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
我覺得這是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
9641.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
9643.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
應該大家一同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
9643.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
9645.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
做的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
9645.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
9647.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
因為原住民就是原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
9648.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
9650.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
副主委我今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
9650.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
9652.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
沒有讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
9651.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
9653.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
這個成為詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
9653.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
9655.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
沒有讓你回覆任何一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
9656.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
9658.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
我只是希望原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
9658.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
9660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
要很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
9660.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
9662.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
原民會的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
9663.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
9665.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
該堅持的就要堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
9665.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
9667.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
該做的就要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
9666.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
9668.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
該去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
9667.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
9669.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
跟各個行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
9669.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
9671.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
部會溝通的就該做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
9671.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
9673.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
我覺得這是原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
9673.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
9675.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
最重要的一個任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
9675.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
9677.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
那我很希望今天下午的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
9677.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
9679.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
原住民身份法的一個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
9679.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
9681.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
我們能夠幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
9681.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
9683.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
我們許多想要成為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
9683.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
9685.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
原住民的這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
9685.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
9687.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
族人朋友能夠一同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
9687.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
9689.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
的進入這個大家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
9690.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
9692.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
指揮大一句可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
9692.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
9694.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
謝謝委員的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
9703.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
9705.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
9711.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
9713.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
好我們下一位請中嘉賓委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
9731.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
9733.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
主席在黨委員先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
9733.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
9735.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
列席政府將長官員會長共夥伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
9735.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
9737.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
記者媒體女士先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
9737.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
9739.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
有請多一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
9739.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
9741.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
我們的杜章梅莊主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
9741.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
9743.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
副主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
9743.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
9745.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
還有謝亞傑處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
9747.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
9749.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
以及內政部的地政司 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
9749.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
9751.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
張哲明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
9751.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
9753.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
檢認視察 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
9754.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
9756.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
還有我們財政部國產署的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
9756.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
9758.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
羅玉華副組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
9759.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
9761.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
還有農業部林保署的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
9761.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
9763.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
黃靖諺副組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
9763.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
9765.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
以及水保署的簡以達 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
9765.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
9767.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
檢證工程師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
9777.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
9779.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
好謝謝副主委來請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
9779.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
9781.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
我就延續剛剛武麗華委員的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
9781.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
9783.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
你在求學的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
9783.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
9785.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
有被稱呼過三包嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
9786.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
9788.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
三地人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
9788.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
9790.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
那你覺得這個稱謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
9790.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
9792.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
或者有聽到煩惱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
9792.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
9794.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
你會不會覺得不舒服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
9794.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
9796.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
會啊 會很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
9796.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
9798.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
其實我在1996年也是剛好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
9798.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
9800.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
是第三屆國大代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
9800.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
9802.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
但是我在1994年我就上過陽明山 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
9802.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
9804.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
不是為了當國大代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
9804.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
9806.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
是為了呼應很多原權團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
9806.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
9808.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
去要求證明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
9808.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
9810.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
為什麼證明 為原住民證明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
9811.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
9813.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
那如果說原住民叫三包 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
9813.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
9815.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
那我叫做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
9815.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
9817.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
叫漢堡啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
9817.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
9819.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
而且還要分胡老漢堡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
9819.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
9821.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
跟客家漢堡 你會接受嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
9821.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
9823.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
你認為我會接受嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
9823.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
9825.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
我當然不會接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
9824.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
9826.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
所以剛剛武委員說到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
9826.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
9828.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
將原住民區分成三地原住民跟平地原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
9828.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
9830.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
先入為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
9830.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
9832.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
就將原住民的生活領域 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
9832.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
9834.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
侷限在台灣的特定地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
9834.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
9836.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
你覺得如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
9836.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
9838.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
你就這樣好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
9838.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
9840.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
9840.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
9842.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
因為整個台灣最早的時候都是原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
9842.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
9844.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
難道最早的時候台灣原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
9844.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
9846.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
有分區住在山上跟平地的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
9846.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
9848.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
通通都是我們原住民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
9848.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
9850.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
一個領域 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
9850.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
9852.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
那我現在要問的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
9852.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
9854.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
那如果未來我們修憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
9854.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
9856.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
將憲法當中的三原跟平原拿掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
9856.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
9858.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
就是只有原住民 你會不會支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
9860.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
9862.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
我說 修憲法你會不會支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
9862.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
9864.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
會 會支持 很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
9864.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
9866.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
好 那我開始進入今天的本題了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
9866.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
9868.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
那說到原住民的生存活動空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
9868.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
9870.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
你認為原住民保留地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
9870.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
9872.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
通通都是山坡地嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
9874.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
9876.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
保留地其實不盡然全部在山坡地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
9876.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
9878.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
大部分是而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
9878.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
9880.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
是 因為山坡地的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
9880.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
9882.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
是在100公尺以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
9882.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
9884.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
或者是海拔100公尺以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
9884.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
9886.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
坡度超過5%的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
9886.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
9888.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
我們屏東很多原鄉它的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
9888.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
9890.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
就沒有超過100公尺 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
9890.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
9892.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
也沒有超過5% |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
9892.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
9894.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
可是他們的使用卻受到山坡地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
9894.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
9896.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
保育條例的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
9896.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
9898.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
好 我再請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
9898.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
9900.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
你認為 來我請教一下那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
9900.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
9902.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
水保署的檢認 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
9902.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
9903.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
檢查官方的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
9903.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
9904.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
是 掰掰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
9905.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
9907.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
山坡地保育條例對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
9907.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
9909.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
是 建民登記應該規範在山坡地保育條例嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
9911.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
9913.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
其實山坡地保育條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
9913.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
9915.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
官方不敢建民登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
9915.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
9917.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
不管 好很好 可以寫 請立刻請回了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
9917.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
9919.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
好 副主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
9920 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
9922 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
來 請你們的處長告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
9922 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
9925 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
昨天他在我們修山坡地保育條例的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
9925 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
9928 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
他是不是希望把建民登記的條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
9928 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
9930 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
放在山坡地保育條例裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
9930 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
9932 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
你可以問他 有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
9932 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
9934 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
處長 有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
9933.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
9935.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
我們的規劃是要放在我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
9935.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
9937.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
元寶地的管理處 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
9937.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
9939.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
9939.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
9941.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
我們是有原住民族保留地的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
9941.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
9943.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
管理辦條例嘛 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
9943.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
9945.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
好 那我們看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
9945.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
9947.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
往前第一張 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
9948.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
9950.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
原住民保留地的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
9950.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
9952.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
不應該訂在山坡地保育條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
9952.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
9954.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
要另訂專法 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
9954.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
9956.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
這是你們的主張 是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
9956.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
9958.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
好 那我們來看一下 為什麼會有這個主張呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
9958.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
9960.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
我們往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
9960.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
9962.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
其實在110年有一個108 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
9962.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
9964.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
台上大致 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
9964.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
9966.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
也就是最高法院的民事大法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
9966.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
9968.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
他說 關於非原住民以建民登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
9968.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
9970.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
這個違反了民法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
9970.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
9972.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
因屬無效 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
9972.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
9974.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
大法庭已經坐上了裁示了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
9974.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
9976.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
所以 關於很多建民登記的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
9976.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
9978.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
就爆發出來了嘛 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
9978.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
9980.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
對 甚至我們來看今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
9980.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
9982.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
9982.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
9984.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
今年14年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
9984.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
9986.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
有一個憲判 去年有一個憲判 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
9986.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
9988.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
這個憲判說什麼 他是不予受理喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
9988.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
9990.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
這個憲判說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
9990.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
9992.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
所謂的 老人和內農 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
9992.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
9994.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
原住民保留地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
9993.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
9995.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
所以他們不介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
10006.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
10008.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
國會保留 雖然他說這個不屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
10008.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
10010.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
我們憲法法庭裁判的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
10010.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
10012.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
10012.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
10014.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
但是過去 卻利用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
10014.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
10016.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
三波地保育條例第三條第六項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
10016.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
10018.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
的控排授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
10018.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
10020.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
以至於中央原住民主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
10020.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
10022.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
需要 必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
10022.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
10024.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
訂定原住民保留地開發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
10024.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
10026.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
管理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
10026.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
10028.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
管理辦法是個法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
10028.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
10030.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
不是 府不保留原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
10030.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
10032.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
不符合 一定要國會立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
10032.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
10034.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
對不對 所以違反了憲法第23條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
10034.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
10036.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
的法律明確性規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
10036.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
10038.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
所以 行政院有沒有後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
10038.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
10040.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
原民會有沒有送出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
10040.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
10042.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
這樣的一個專法 原保地的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
10042.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
10044.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
條例專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
10044.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
10046.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
這個我們在110年曾經送過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
10046.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
10048.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
有 我這裡拿到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
10048.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
10050.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
111年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
10050.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
10052.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
行政院有送到立法院來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
10052.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
10054.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
立法院怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
10054.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
10056.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
霍主委你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
10056.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
10058.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
後來有一些討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
10058.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
10060.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
有一些爭議的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
10060.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
10062.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
後來有一些委員 包括在場的原住民委員反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
10063.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
10065.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
所以他就沒有通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
10065.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
10067.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
在場的原住民委員反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
10067.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
10069.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
原民會在行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
10069.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
10071.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
送來的原住民主保留地的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
10071.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
10073.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
條例 管理條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
10073.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
10075.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
我不懂啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
10076.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
10078.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
我不懂啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
10077.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
10079.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
原住民的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
10079.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
10081.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
當行政訂定專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
10081.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
10083.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
符合憲法的要旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
10083.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
10085.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
符合大法庭的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
10085.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
10087.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
居然反對 霍主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
10087.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
10089.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
你們偷偷告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
10089.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
10091.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
到底那時候你們在原民會了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
10092.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
10094.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
當時原住民委員那位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
10094.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
10096.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
那幾位委員為什麼要反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
10097.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
10099.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
在場你不好意思講嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
10100.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
10102.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
因為委員在場不好意思講嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
10102.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
10104.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
沒有要你再這麼發言時間啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
10104.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
10106.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
你昨天都講過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
10106.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
10108.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
10107.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
10109.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
喂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
10108.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
10110.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
那是你講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
10110.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
10112.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
就是因為政府的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
10112.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
10114.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
到目前 戒氣不連續 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
10114.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
10116.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
上一屆的原保地條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
10116.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
10118.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
結果功敗垂成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
10118.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
10120.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
因為少數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
10120.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
10122.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
部分原住民委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
10122.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
10124.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
基於私利反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
10123.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
10125.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
結果呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
10124.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
10126.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
就打消了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
10126.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
10128.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
本屆立法院行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
10128.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
10130.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
有沒有要再送出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
10130.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
10132.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
目前我們已經送到行政院了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
10132.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
10134.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
有沒有關於建民登記的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
10134.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
10136.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
10136.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
10138.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
有關於建民登記的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
10138.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
10140.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
包含剛剛307條全部在那個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
10140.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
10142.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
如果這個專法沒有趕快在立法院通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
10142.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
10144.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
剛剛所秀出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
10144.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
10146.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
這些原住民族保留地的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
10146.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
10148.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
相關產權爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
10148.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
10150.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
透過建民登記 有沒有法律可以處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
10150.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
10152.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
10153.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
10155.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
所以我在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
10155.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
10157.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
我要請這麼多人在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
10157.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
10159.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
這裡面我為什麼要請林保署呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
10160.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
10162.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
林保署負責我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
10162.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
10164.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
環境保育嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
10164.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
10166.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
裡面有沒有很多原保地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
10166.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
10168.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
你們怎麼處理遇到這些爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
10168.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
10170.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
遇到建民登記 到底要去處分行為人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
10170.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
10172.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
還是處分這個所有權人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
10172.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
10174.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
有沒有很多的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
10174.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
10176.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
我再另外問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
10175.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
10177.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
拿文國三數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
10178.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
10180.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
我們國三數管轄用地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
10180.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
10182.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
有沒有跟原保地有一些認定的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
10185.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
10187.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
有認定嗎 產權 界線的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
10187.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
10189.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
如果沒有這個專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
10189.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
10191.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
我們國有財產 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
10191.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
10193.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
不管是國有林地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
10193.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
10195.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
還是國有土地的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
10195.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
10197.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
有沒有辦法釐清哪些是我們屬於原住民的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
10198.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
10200.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
你們遇到建民登記怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
10201.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
10205.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
建民登記的審理的權責是地政單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
10205.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
10207.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
好很好你幫他們叫地政單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
10207.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
10209.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
來 地政司 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
10208.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
10210.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
張捷克的視察 你們怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
10211.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
10213.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
目前建民登記如果是施權部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
10213.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
10215.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
都要訴請法院來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
10215.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
10217.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
訴請法院嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
10217.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
10219.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
一個案子case by case嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
10218.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
10220.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
所以未來的原住民保留地的處理條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
10220.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
10222.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
如果送到本院來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
10222.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
10224.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
會在哪裡審理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
10225.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
10227.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
會在內政委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
10227.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
10229.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
內政委會處理內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
10229.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
10231.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
會表地政司 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
10231.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
10233.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
是不是可以跟這些問題做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
10233.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
10235.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
完全正本清源的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
10235.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
10237.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
好副主任 我請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
10237.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
10239.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
你支不支持關於原住民保留地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
10239.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
10241.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
關於建民登記這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
10241.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
10243.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
長期來的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
10243.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
10245.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
困擾我們原住民朋友的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
10245.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
10247.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
希望有個專法通過後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
10247.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
10249.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
送到本院來審理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
10249.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
10251.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
我們內政委員來審理你支不支持 |
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10251.01 |
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這個一直都是原民會規劃 |
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10253.01 |
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希望朝這個方向 |
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是的 你好好告訴你們處長 |
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他昨天在我們經濟委員會 |
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10259.01 |
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10261.01 |
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建民保留地保育條例的時候 |
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10261.01 |
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10263.01 |
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他卻配合特定委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
10263.01 |
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10265.01 |
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要把建民登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
10265.01 |
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放在原來本質 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
10267.01 |
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10269.01 |
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完全不同的三波地保育條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
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我不是在說他違背 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
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我們原住民的權益啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
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10275.01 |
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但是可能他在當下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
10275.01 |
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因為那個管理條例太久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
10277.01 |
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10279.01 |
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那我們有一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
10279.01 |
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如果上屆沒有人阻擋就通過啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
10281.01 |
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10283.01 |
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所以我們才會有這樣的一個想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
10283.01 |
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所以趕快在行政委員會推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
10285.01 |
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10287.01 |
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原住民族保留地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
10287.01 |
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10289.01 |
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管理條例要趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
10289.01 |
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10291.01 |
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送到本院來審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
10291.01 |
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10293.01 |
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送到本院的內政委員來審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
10293.01 |
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10295.01 |
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我今天我在經濟委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
10295.01 |
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10297.01 |
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我特別來跟你們告這個狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
10297.01 |
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10299.01 |
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不是告處長的狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
10299.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
10301.01 |
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因為處長他人在屋簷下不得不低頭啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
10300.77 |
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10302.77 |
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對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
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10304.77 |
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所以委員在那邊要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
10304.77 |
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10306.77 |
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他配合把這些條文法規生出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
10306.77 |
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10308.77 |
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這是不對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
10307.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
10309.77 |
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所以我希望原住民委員會加油好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
10310.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
10314.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
不要再被人家說成是三包跟漢包了好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
10314.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
10316.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
不要再有3D原住民跟平民的人自稱好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
10317.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
10319.91 |
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我是確定委員的召集委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
10319.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
10321.91 |
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我會來排 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
10321.15 |
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10323.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
我們這個修憲委員會有很多議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
10323.15 |
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10325.15 |
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徐委員很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
10325.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
10327.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
昨天有公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
10327.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
10329.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
我們希望未來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
10329.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
10331.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
我們努力的不只讓原住民的正名 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
10331.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
10333.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
能夠徹底完全成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
10333.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
10335.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
也讓原住民族相關在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
10335.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
10339.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
應有的權益都得到國會立法的完整保障好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
10339.15 |
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10341.15 |
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好 共同努力 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
10348.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
10350.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
我們下一位請如縣議委員發言質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
10358.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
10360.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
謝謝 此時有請副主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
10366.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
10368.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
針對修法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
10368.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
10370.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
我有三個問題問副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
10370.78 |
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10372.78 |
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因為我之前就在關心說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
10372.78 |
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10374.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
有一個第四條的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
10374.78 |
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10376.78 |
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就是原住民生親想要收養非原住民子女 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
10376.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
10378.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
並允許孩子取得原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
10378.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
10380.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
一定要滿40歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
10380.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
10382.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
這個部分我早說三次有討論過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
10382.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
10384.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
那我現在想知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
10384.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
10386.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
我們應有的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
10386.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
10388.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
因為現在常常會到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
10388.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
10390.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
實際上那樣就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
10390.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
10392.78 |
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你結婚20幾歲結婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
10392.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
10394.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
結果到30歲還沒有生孩子的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
10394.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
10396.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
你當然會想說可能想要領養小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
10396.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
10398.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
不過現在規定要40歲以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
10398.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
10400.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
我是覺得是實在是強人所難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
10400.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
10402.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
而且大家也都知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
10402.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
10404.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
不婚證大概是結婚3年以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
10404.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
10406.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
就可以領養小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
10406.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
10408.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
不過現在這個規定是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
10408.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
10410.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
原本可以針對這個40歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
10410.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
10412.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
這樣的一個數字能夠做檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
10416.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
10418.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
10418.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
10420.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
當然你提那個說3年未能自然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
10420.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
10422.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
受孕這個部分我們是有些保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
10422.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
10424.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
因為那個結婚以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
10424.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
10426.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
有沒有那個都是感情什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
10426.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
10428.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
我們不知道但是經過醫療機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
10428.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
10430.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
診斷委不應這個導致 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
10430.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
10432.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
可以去朝這個方向去立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
10434.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
10436.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
好現在我們這次的修法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
10436.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
10438.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
我想說是不是有討論到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
10438.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
10440.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
我們恆春半島有一群排灣族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
10440.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
10442.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
沒有原住民的身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
10442.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
10444.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
因為他們不想變成平埔原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
10444.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
10446.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
他們確實是排灣族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
10446.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
10448.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
就是社鼎公園上面那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
10448.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
10450.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
我們叫Guard的部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
10450.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
10452.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
他們一直想要變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
10452.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
10454.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
排灣族可是這個無法無據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
10454.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
10456.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
這個部分這次的修法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
10456.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
10458.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
有沒有包含到他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
10458.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
10460.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
因為現在平埔族群身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
10460.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
10462.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
已經立法了如果按照 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
10462.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
10464.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
現行所有的規定他們就是要透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
10464.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
10466.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
這個身份法來變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
10466.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
10468.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
來轉換成原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
10468.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
10470.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
那如果說他要回到原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
10470.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
10472.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
其實在法條上可能沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
10472.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
10474.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
支持因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
10474.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
10476.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
他會混淆了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
10476.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
10478.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
如果我們修了身份法以後會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
10478.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
10480.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
造成平埔族群身份法跟身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
10480.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
10482.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
之間是混淆的事實上會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
10482.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
10484.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
在適用上會有很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
10484.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
10486.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].text |
這個憾格 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
10487.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
10489.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
第二個問題就是我們講到民主議會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
10489.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
10491.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].text |
我看到你們的回應是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].start |
10491.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].end |
10493.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].text |
法治三位完備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].start |
10493.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].end |
10495.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].text |
那我想說是不是應該盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].start |
10495.03 |
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10497.03 |
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民主議會或是類似的組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].start |
10497.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].end |
10499.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].text |
的用處的現況提出分族諮商 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].start |
10499.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].end |
10501.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].text |
及法治化的一個期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].start |
10501.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].end |
10503.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].text |
而不是一直在看等待他們到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].start |
10503.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].end |
10505.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].text |
什麼時候可以完備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].start |
10505.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].end |
10507.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].text |
現在民主議會事實上有幾個族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].start |
10507.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
10509.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].text |
有成立他們也在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].start |
10509.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].end |
10511.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].text |
事實上我們也在收集他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].start |
10511.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].end |
10513.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].text |
在這個過程裡面的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
10513.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].end |
10515.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].text |
經驗甚至他們處理的事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].start |
10515.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].end |
10517.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].text |
會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].start |
10517.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].end |
10519.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].text |
可以協助我們在未來我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].start |
10519.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
10521.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
在民主議會要立法的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].start |
10521.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
10523.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
有一些參考依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
10523.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
10525.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
他的程序他的內容他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
10525.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
10527.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
權責是什麼我想都是很好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].start |
10527.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
10529.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
一個經驗的借鏡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
10529.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
10531.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
所以我在看目前特別好的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
10531.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
10533.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
盧凱跟排灣嘛那如果他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
10533.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
10535.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
有特別好的話是不是可以做其他主委的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].start |
10535.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
10537.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
一個參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].start |
10537.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].end |
10539.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].text |
的確啊像那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].start |
10539.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].end |
10541.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].text |
霧台的盧凱族群議會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].start |
10541.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].end |
10543.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].text |
就非常的完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].start |
10543.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].end |
10545.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].text |
另外一個問題說文化產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].start |
10545.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].end |
10547.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].text |
就是說法律上可以申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].start |
10547.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].end |
10549.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
租稅的減免可是不代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].start |
10549.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].end |
10551.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].text |
實際上民主民主的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].start |
10551.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].end |
10553.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].text |
這些產業實際上可以申請的到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].start |
10553.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].end |
10555.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
所以是不是原文會應該會等文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].start |
10555.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].end |
10557.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].text |
部財政部提出和申請的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].start |
10557.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].end |
10559.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].text |
建樹合準入宮主要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].start |
10559.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].end |
10561.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].text |
障礙然後設這個單一的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].start |
10561.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].end |
10563.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].text |
福島的窗口 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].start |
10563.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].end |
10565.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].text |
我們是在講百億的基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].start |
10565.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].end |
10567.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].text |
如果不是基金的話是不是原文會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].start |
10567.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].end |
10569.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].text |
應該提出同等功能的替代方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].start |
10569.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].end |
10571.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].text |
把各部會分散在交通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].start |
10571.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].end |
10573.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].text |
水利通訊環境公共設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].start |
10573.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].end |
10575.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].text |
這些計畫整合起來然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].start |
10575.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].end |
10577.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].text |
建立跨年度的需求清測裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].start |
10577.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].end |
10579.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
跟追蹤的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
10579.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].end |
10581.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].text |
然後就是說用那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].start |
10581.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].end |
10583.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
不能接受基金這兩個字的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
10583.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].end |
10585.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
來否定我們目前想要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].start |
10585.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].end |
10587.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
這個規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].start |
10587.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].end |
10589.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
委員提的這些草案我們都尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].start |
10589.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
10591.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
但是裡面有一些可能涉及到其他部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
10591.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].end |
10593.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
還有裁員的部分事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].start |
10593.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
10595.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
會裡面不能夠直接的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
10595.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
10597.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
所認為他是可行或不可行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].start |
10597.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].end |
10599.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
那另外也有這個我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
10599.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].end |
10601.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
財政收治法或法或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].start |
10601.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].end |
10603.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
我們的那個財政的條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
10603.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
10605.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
相關的你要在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
10605.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
10607.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
法律裡面明定你的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
10607.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
10609.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
你必須要有來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
10609.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].end |
10611.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
我想這些都是相關的目的事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
10611.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
10613.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
主管機關的法規啦我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].start |
10613.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].end |
10615.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
尊重啦但是待會兒寫一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
10615.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
10617.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
我看看他們的意見怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
10617.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].end |
10619.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
好在最後就是講到那個原住民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
10619.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
10621.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
智商的同盟權的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].start |
10621.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
10623.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
因為我們一二年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
10623.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].end |
10625.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
最高法院的487號判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
10625.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].end |
10627.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
就指出說原住民傳統領域跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].start |
10627.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
10629.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
不信公有跟私有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].start |
10629.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
10631.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
那我想說目前常常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].start |
10631.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].end |
10633.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
聽到就是宜蘭啊或是哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].start |
10633.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
10635.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
要開發地肉啊或者是採礦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
10635.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
10637.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
然後常常引起朋友一些紛爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
10637.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
10639.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
甚至上次還產生一個罷免村長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
10639.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
10641.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
的一個動作喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
10641.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
10643.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].text |
我是覺得說你會準備何時提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
10643.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
10645.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
土地開發希望能夠分級標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
10645.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
10647.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
跟具體判斷那個指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].start |
10647.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].end |
10649.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
什麼時候來檢討原住民主土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].start |
10649.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
10651.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].text |
跟部落範圍土地劃設辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].start |
10651.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
10653.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].text |
相關的行政規章 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
10653.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
10655.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
在新的制度完成以前如果對方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
10655.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].end |
10657.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].text |
政府其他部會收到私有土地上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].start |
10657.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
10659.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].text |
政大開發申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].start |
10659.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
10661.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
我們要依據什麼樣的標準判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].start |
10661.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].end |
10663.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].text |
是否涉及傳統領域哪些部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].start |
10663.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].end |
10665.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].text |
是屬於關係部落然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].start |
10665.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].end |
10667.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].text |
啟動何種資商的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].start |
10667.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].end |
10669.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].text |
我是想說應該有一個三個層級的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].start |
10669.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].end |
10671.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].text |
研議啦那我想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].start |
10671.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].end |
10673.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].text |
如果說是說廢棄物處理能源設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].start |
10673.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].end |
10675.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].text |
大規模土地開發重大土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].start |
10675.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].end |
10677.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].text |
的一些高影響的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].start |
10677.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].end |
10679.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].text |
是不是應該就要進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].start |
10679.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].end |
10681.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].text |
資商完整的諮商跟部落同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].start |
10681.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].end |
10683.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].text |
若是可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].start |
10683.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].end |
10685.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].text |
只是可能影響部落文化環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].start |
10685.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].end |
10687.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].text |
傳統利用跟生計的一些針對影響案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].start |
10687.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].end |
10689.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].text |
是不是就完成資訊公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].start |
10689.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].end |
10691.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].text |
實質諮商參與決策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].start |
10691.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].end |
10693.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].text |
跟利益分享這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].start |
10693.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].end |
10695.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].text |
動作就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].start |
10695.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].end |
10697.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].text |
那一般住宅的休散 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].start |
10697.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].end |
10699.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].text |
小規模的農作或是對部落影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].start |
10699.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].end |
10701.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].text |
輕盈的日常使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].start |
10701.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].end |
10703.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].text |
就我們就簡化他的程序跟合理排除 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].start |
10703.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].end |
10705.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].text |
我想說明年會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].start |
10705.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].end |
10707.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].text |
是不是應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].start |
10707.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].end |
10709.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].text |
去做一個類似像讓對方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].start |
10709.51 |
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10711.51 |
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政府經濟部環境部能力部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].start |
10711.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].end |
10713.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].text |
這些機關有所依循 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].start |
10713.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].end |
10715.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].text |
而不是說讓各個機關做各自的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].start |
10715.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].end |
10717.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].text |
解讀同樣的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].start |
10717.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].end |
10719.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].text |
出現不同的標準然後再用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].start |
10719.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].end |
10721.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].text |
很多的時間一次一次的走進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].start |
10721.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].end |
10723.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].text |
法院才能夠爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].start |
10723.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].end |
10725.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].text |
本來就應該收到這個保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].start |
10726.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].end |
10728.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].text |
謝謝委員的提點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].start |
10728.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].end |
10730.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].text |
剛委員提的這麼多我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].start |
10730.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].end |
10732.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].text |
有一個諮商同意的部分事實上這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].start |
10732.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].end |
10734.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].text |
辦法我們也在研修中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].start |
10734.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].end |
10736.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].text |
那也在最後的階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].start |
10736.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].end |
10738.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].text |
馬上就會做對外的公布 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].start |
10738.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].end |
10740.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].text |
那另外有關於這個土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].start |
10740.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].end |
10742.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].text |
公司有涉及到可能是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].start |
10742.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].end |
10744.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].text |
法律未接的部分我想我們尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].start |
10744.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].end |
10746.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].text |
大院的審議但這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].start |
10746.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].end |
10748.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].text |
也會跟憲法有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].start |
10748.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].end |
10750.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].text |
保障人民財產權的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].start |
10750.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].end |
10752.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].text |
另外相關民法可能都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].start |
10752.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].end |
10754.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].text |
需要討論的空間那我們也尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].start |
10754.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].end |
10756.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].text |
業務主管及他們的意見以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].start |
10773.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].end |
10775.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].text |
馬上到委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].start |
10782.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].end |
10784.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].text |
有那我要稍微跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].start |
10784.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].end |
10786.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].text |
委員補充就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].start |
10786.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].end |
10788.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].text |
其實我們原本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].start |
10788.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].end |
10790.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].text |
規劃的37站 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].start |
10790.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].end |
10792.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].text |
其實已經完成了32站 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].start |
10792.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].end |
10794.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].text |
那執行率是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].start |
10794.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].end |
10796.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].text |
86%啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].start |
10796.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].end |
10798.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].text |
所以在收聽的覆蓋率 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].start |
10798.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].end |
10800.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].text |
其實是沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].start |
10800.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].end |
10802.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].text |
那現在就是我們目前今天所要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].start |
10802.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].end |
10804.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].text |
報告的是有關於訊號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].start |
10804.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].end |
10806.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].text |
員的補充所以在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].start |
10806.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].end |
10808.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].text |
收聽的部分應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].start |
10808.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].end |
10810.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].text |
如期逐漸在完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].start |
10810.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].end |
10812.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].text |
當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].start |
10812.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].end |
10814.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].text |
完成率就是15%就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].start |
10814.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].end |
10816.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].text |
東河海端跟山永 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].start |
10816.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].end |
10818.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].text |
那我想說這個原民會跟原委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].start |
10818.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].end |
10820.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].text |
在長達六年半中履約的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].start |
10820.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].end |
10822.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].text |
差和跟廣考的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].start |
10822.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].end |
10824.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].text |
預警制度是不是有很大的缺失呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].start |
10824.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].end |
10826.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].text |
我們也跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].start |
10826.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].end |
10828.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].text |
主管機關有做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].start |
10828.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].end |
10830.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].text |
回報那特別是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].start |
10830.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].end |
10832.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].text |
這個廠商他一直不履約 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].start |
10832.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].end |
10834.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].text |
那另外就是說還 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].start |
10834.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].end |
10836.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].text |
延宕很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].start |
10836.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].end |
10838.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].text |
行政作業那我們也對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].start |
10838.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].end |
10840.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].text |
這個廠商即將去宣告他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].start |
10840.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].end |
10842.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].text |
不良廠商的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].start |
10842.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].end |
10844.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].text |
所以在這個部分我們會再加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].start |
10844.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].end |
10846.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].text |
進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].start |
10846.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].end |
10848.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].text |
就是說可能在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].start |
10848.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].end |
10850.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].text |
流用跟財政紀律跟司法性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].start |
10850.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].end |
10852.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].text |
爭議啊這邊看到是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].start |
10852.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].end |
10854.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].text |
真正跟主義相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].start |
10854.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].end |
10856.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].text |
是只有10.74% |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].start |
10856.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].end |
10858.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].text |
那流用的部分比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].start |
10858.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].end |
10860.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].text |
像活動策劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].start |
10860.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].end |
10862.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].text |
硬體啊這些國際交流跟接待 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].start |
10862.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].end |
10864.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].text |
甚至是高達了89.26% |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].start |
10864.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].end |
10866.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].text |
我是覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].start |
10866.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].end |
10868.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].text |
這個部分是不是應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].start |
10868.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].end |
10870.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].text |
要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].start |
10870.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].end |
10872.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].text |
提出一個合理憲法性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].start |
10872.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].end |
10874.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].text |
調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].start |
10874.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].end |
10876.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].text |
我們應該要回歸到正常 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].start |
10876.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].end |
10878.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].text |
不是應該流用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].start |
10878.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].end |
10880.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].text |
在語言發展的呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].start |
10880.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].end |
10882.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].text |
變成要用來做這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].start |
10882.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].end |
10884.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].text |
要大型喪失這個硬體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].start |
10884.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].end |
10886.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].text |
跟接待費用是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].start |
10886.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].end |
10888.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].text |
這個部分是不是有跟主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].start |
10888.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].end |
10890.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].text |
做過溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].start |
10890.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].end |
10892.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].text |
報告委員這個部分我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].start |
10892.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].end |
10894.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].text |
會精益求精再去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].start |
10894.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].end |
10896.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].text |
做相關執行上的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].start |
10896.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].end |
10898.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].text |
那要跟委員報告的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].start |
10898.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].end |
10900.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].text |
就是國語方案它很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].start |
10900.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].end |
10902.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].text |
一個部分是對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].start |
10902.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].end |
10904.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].text |
族語的行銷啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].start |
10904.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].end |
10906.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].text |
所以除了電視的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].start |
10906.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].end |
10908.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].text |
自播產製時數之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].start |
10908.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].end |
10910.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].text |
還包括怎麼樣行銷族語 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].start |
10910.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].end |
10912.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].text |
所以在這一塊我們也很 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].start |
10912.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].end |
10914.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].text |
重視那特別國語方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].start |
10914.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].end |
10916.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].text |
他強調的是用新的策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].start |
10916.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].end |
10918.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].text |
去推動族語的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].start |
10918.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].end |
10920.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].text |
推廣所以在這一塊我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].start |
10920.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].end |
10922.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].text |
精益求精謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].start |
10922.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].end |
10924.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].text |
就是常常看到就是臉書上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].start |
10924.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].end |
10926.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].text |
報應的大部分就是參賽的選手 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].start |
10926.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].end |
10928.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
他們沒有得到相當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].start |
10928.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].end |
10930.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].text |
比如說比賽獎金啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].start |
10930.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].end |
10932.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].text |
或是相當的一個類似像 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].start |
10932.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].end |
10934.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].text |
尊重啊我是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].start |
10934.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].end |
10936.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].text |
正在辦比賽最重要的是選手 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].start |
10936.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].end |
10938.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].text |
不是嗎所以我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].start |
10938.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].end |
10940.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].text |
看到很多就是在支付實體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].start |
10940.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].end |
10942.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].text |
建基舞台工程無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].start |
10942.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].end |
10944.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].text |
這些國際課票 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].start |
10944.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].end |
10946.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].text |
這樣那個費用那我是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].start |
10946.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].end |
10948.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].text |
應該是先滿足我們比賽選手 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].start |
10948.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].end |
10950.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].text |
的安全跟他們實際的生活 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].start |
10950.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].end |
10952.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].text |
的補貼或者是說比賽獎金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].start |
10952.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].end |
10954.08 |
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這個部分我是覺得應該先重視 |
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10954.08 |
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才有這些後面的嘛 |
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第三個就是這次你很辛苦地 |
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去了巴丹島我們也曾經 |
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10962.08 |
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在實體下有聊過 |
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10964.08 |
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這些你的偉大的 |
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10966.08 |
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一些計畫不過卻很 |
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遺憾的是用比如說 |
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10970.08 |
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大量淨水並充實的一個精選 |
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10970.08 |
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10972.08 |
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的情況這3850萬 |
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10972.08 |
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10974.08 |
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的一個預算海陸計畫 |
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10976.08 |
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是不是就這樣子你覺得是 |
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10978.08 |
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付出流水呢還是就像你們原本 |
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10980.08 |
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會的所呈現的好幾千個讚的 |
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10982.08 |
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一個得到的一個讚美 |
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10982.08 |
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10984.08 |
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你怎麼做取捨 |
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是謝謝委員 |
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10988.08 |
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的詢問 |
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10990.08 |
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我們的這個航海計畫 |
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10990.08 |
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10992.08 |
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有一個部分很大的 |
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10992.08 |
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10994.08 |
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預算分佈是在灶州的部分 |
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10994.08 |
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10996.08 |
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那我們採購的是 |
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10996.08 |
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10998.08 |
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島上族人各個家族 |
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10998.08 |
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11000.08 |
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的數目不是從台灣 |
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11000.08 |
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11002.08 |
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買的所以我們讓 |
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11002.08 |
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11004.08 |
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整個利用 |
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11004.24 |
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的文化的利用這個 |
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11008.24 |
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財產的利用回到部落 |
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11008.24 |
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11010.24 |
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另外就是我們划船的選手 |
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11010.24 |
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11012.24 |
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那也從六個部落去挑選 |
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11012.24 |
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11014.24 |
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然後去支付他的 |
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11016.24 |
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划船的費用所以在 |
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11016.24 |
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11018.24 |
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整體預算上我們覺得 |
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11018.24 |
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11020.24 |
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還算是合理而且 |
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11020.24 |
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11022.24 |
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是達到他的效果 |
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11022.24 |
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11024.24 |
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我是覺得這次應該要檢討的就是你們 |
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11024.24 |
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11026.24 |
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可能沒有去真正的去跟 |
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11026.24 |
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11028.24 |
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我們海洋委員會 |
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11028.24 |
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11030.24 |
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交通部航管局做一些 |
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11030.24 |
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11032.24 |
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我們航行安全的管理跟 |
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11032.24 |
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11034.24 |
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管理部發布會的一個應變的機制 |
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11034.24 |
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11036.24 |
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指引啦那我想說以後如果你們 |
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11036.24 |
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11038.24 |
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要再做這些的話是不是應該再更 |
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11038.24 |
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11040.24 |
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嚴謹一點不要到最後明明是一個 |
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11040.24 |
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11042.24 |
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很好的文化的交流 |
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11042.24 |
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11044.24 |
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就到最後是一這樣的一個所謂的 |
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11044.24 |
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11046.24 |
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不是那麼好看的一個據點 |
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11046.24 |
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11048.24 |
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讓國委會覺得說你們這樣的 |
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11048.24 |
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11050.24 |
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一個努力是不是就有點 |
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11050.24 |
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11052.24 |
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白費這樣是 |
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11052.24 |
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11054.24 |
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就像委員提到的就是說氣候 |
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11054.24 |
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11056.24 |
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的掌握可能在 |
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11056.24 |
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11058.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].text |
未來執行這一類的計畫 |
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11058.24 |
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11060.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].text |
的時候要更強調 |
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11060.24 |
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11062.24 |
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那也凸顯了其實 |
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11062.24 |
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11064.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].text |
世界的氣候 |
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11064.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].end |
11066.24 |
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的暖化跟驟變 |
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11066.24 |
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11068.24 |
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非常的強烈 |
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11068.24 |
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11070.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].text |
以前我們的航海我們的祖先祖父級 |
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11070.24 |
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11072.24 |
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可能他的 |
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11072.24 |
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11074.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].text |
周期性的航海 |
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11074.24 |
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11076.24 |
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不會遇到大強烈的西南 |
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11076.24 |
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11078.24 |
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風浪但其實這幾年的 |
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11078.24 |
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11080.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].text |
全球性的氣候確實有影響 |
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11080.24 |
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11082.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].text |
在這一塊我們會再做講解 |
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11082.24 |
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11084.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].text |
對今天報告我覺得應該要有 |
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11084.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].end |
11086.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].text |
第二個就是說我們實際想要看到你們 |
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11086.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].end |
11088.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].text |
的文化的交流的一個亮點在哪裡 |
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11088.24 |
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11090.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].text |
然後現在的一個文化的一個 |
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11090.24 |
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11092.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].text |
相同跟差異還有理念的一個 |
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11092.24 |
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11094.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].text |
相同跟差異我覺得 |
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11094.24 |
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11096.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].text |
應該也要呈現出來 |
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11096.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].end |
11098.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].text |
才要知道說你們這次一個活動的真正的 |
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11098.24 |
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11100.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].text |
目的是什麼可以讓 |
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11100.24 |
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11102.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].text |
全世界的我們原住民族看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].start |
11102.24 |
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11104.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].text |
好不好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].start |
11104.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].end |
11106.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].text |
謝謝委員 |
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11111.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].end |
11113.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].text |
下一位請林憲奇委員發言資訊 |
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11122.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].end |
11124.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].text |
好謝謝我們的主席廖昭偉 |
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11124.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].end |
11126.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].text |
我們我先請 |
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11126.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].end |
11128.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].text |
我們研會 |
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11128.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].end |
11130.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].text |
我想 |
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11130.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].end |
11132.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].text |
請文化 |
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11131.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].end |
11133.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].text |
基金會的這個董事長 |
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11133.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].end |
11135.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].text |
馬拉魯斯 |
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11140.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].end |
11142.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].text |
謝謝 |
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11141.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].end |
11143.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].text |
你好 |
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11143.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].end |
11145.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].text |
董事長你好那個今天的 |
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11145.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].end |
11147.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].text |
這裡面有關於這個航海 |
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11147.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].end |
11149.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].text |
文化最主要是就原文會 |
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11149.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].end |
11151.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].text |
這邊來執行嘛 |
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11151.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].end |
11153.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].text |
這一次整個經費的 |
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11153.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].end |
11155.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].text |
主體呢是我們 |
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11155.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].end |
11157.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].text |
蘭嶼的這個拼板舟航行 |
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11157.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].end |
11159.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].text |
到巴丹島包括 |
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11159.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].end |
11161.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].text |
潮州包括人才包括這個水手 |
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11161.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].end |
11163.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].text |
包括整個航行 |
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11163.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].end |
11165.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].text |
那麼我想跟您請教您這邊 |
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11165.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
11167.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
內容大概 |
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11167.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
11169.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
提到了你們幾個成果 |
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11169.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
11171.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
我想這個成果的部分 |
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11171.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
11173.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
您剛才也有提到其實在蘭嶼的部分 |
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11173.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
11175.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
我們很多航行者 |
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11175.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
11177.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
還有包括所有的水手大家對這件事情 |
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11177.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
11179.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
都非常的投入喔 |
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11179.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
11181.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
但是因為一些外部的因素 |
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11181.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
11183.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
導致可能整體的結果 |
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11183.73 |
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11185.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
不是這麼的 |
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11186.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
11188.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
如同預期啦 |
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11188.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
11190.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
但是本席又覺得想請教你 |
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11190.64 |
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11192.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
一下你覺得這一次的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].start |
11192.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].end |
11194.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].text |
計畫算成功嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].start |
11194.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].end |
11196.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].text |
我覺得應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].start |
11197.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].end |
11199.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].text |
應該從原住民的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].start |
11199.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].end |
11201.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].text |
應該是要把它列為成功的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].start |
11201.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].end |
11203.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
一個交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].start |
11203.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].end |
11205.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].text |
我們可以講一下成功的要素嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].start |
11205.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].end |
11207.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].text |
就是我們跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].start |
11207.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].end |
11209.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].text |
巴丹島有了這個影像的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].start |
11209.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].end |
11211.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].text |
這個紀錄好像你們覺得是第一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].start |
11211.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
11213.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
那本席這樣問好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].start |
11213.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
11215.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
那請問你覺得這個航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].start |
11215.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].end |
11217.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].text |
您對於整個航行裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].start |
11217.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
11219.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
我們真正實踐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].start |
11219.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].end |
11221.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
原住民族航行的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].start |
11221.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
11223.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
航段大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].start |
11223.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].end |
11225.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
佔了航段的百分之幾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].start |
11226.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
11228.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].start |
11228.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
11230.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
航行的成功率大概有多長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
11230.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].end |
11232.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
第一個就是說如果焦點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
11232.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].end |
11234.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
回到這邊的話就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
11234.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
11236.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
在造出一個已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
11236.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
11238.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
失傳三百年的二十人中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
11238.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
11240.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].text |
這個工法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
11240.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].end |
11242.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].text |
它的意義非常的大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
11242.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].end |
11244.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
所以我們就是航行把它托行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
11244.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
11246.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
到了這個巴丹 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
11246.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
11248.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
然後現在放在巴丹島上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
11248.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
11250.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
請問放在巴丹島上的哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
11250.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
11252.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
我們放在巴丹的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
11252.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
11254.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].start |
11254.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
11256.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
另外它也會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].start |
11256.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
11258.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
馬哈道市做市民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
11258.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].end |
11260.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
直接的交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
11260.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
11262.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
甚至於市華 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
11262.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
11264.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
如果是這樣結果本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
11264.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
11266.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
也建議可能每年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].start |
11266.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
11268.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
或者是三五年要去檢視一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
11268.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
11270.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
我們這艘船在巴丹島的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].start |
11270.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
11272.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
依照 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
11272.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
11274.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
本席你知道本席經常在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
11274.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
11276.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
水上跑所以本席剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
11276.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
11278.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
問你說那如果以航行上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
11278.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
11280.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
來講我們這邊的海洋文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
11280.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
11282.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
這一段航行真的如你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
11282.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
11284.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
預期我們真正在海上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
11284.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
11286.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
航行成功大概有百分之幾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
11286.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
11288.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
整個路段整個航段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
11288.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
11290.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].start |
11290.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
11292.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
它 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
11292.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
11294.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
這個計畫它倒不是探險 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
11294.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
11296.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
所以因為你們是在航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
11296.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
11298.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
我們在講航行就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
11298.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
11300.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
航行要能夠成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
11300.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
11302.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
所以真正所有的水手航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
11302.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
11304.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
安全成功的航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
11304.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
11306.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
大概整個航段百分之幾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
11306.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
11308.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
成功的航行我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].start |
11308.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
11310.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
在整個航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
11310.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
11312.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
來說大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
11312.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
11314.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
應該在四分之一的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
11314.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
11316.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
就是航行成功是四分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
11316.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
11318.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
四分之三是拖行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
11318.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
11320.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
所以你們的第二點要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
11320.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
11322.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
我們有成功的把船拖行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
11322.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
11324.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
到了巴丹島 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
11324.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
11326.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
那你如果要知道直接的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
11326.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
11328.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
本席這邊有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
11328.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
11330.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
你們在海上的整體狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
11330.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
11332.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
那當然也有很多藉戶的船 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].start |
11332.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
11334.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
讓這一次我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
11334.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
11336.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
整個航行所有的水手 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
11336.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
11338.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
是安全的我們真的是不幸中的大幸 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
11338.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
11340.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
就像你講的如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
11340.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
11342.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
事前你們知道整個海上還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
11342.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
11344.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
氣候變遷這麼劇烈的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
11344.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
11346.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
那你們還這樣子航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
11346.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
11348.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
其實是置太多的鄉親 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
11348.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
11350.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
在危險當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
11350.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
11352.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
那本席簡單講你剛才講四分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
11352.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
11354.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
那本席就算給你聽了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
11354.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
11356.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
應該你們一出這個港 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
11356.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
11358.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
那直接航行到小蘭嶼外海 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
11358.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
11360.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
大概就十海里吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
11360.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
11362.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
十海里可能是航行成功的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
11362.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
11364.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
之後直接拖行到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
11364.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
11366.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
巴丹島外一海里 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
11366.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
11368.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
那整個蘭嶼從巴丹 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
11368.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
11370.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
從蘭嶼到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].start |
11370.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
11372.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
巴丹島 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
11371.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
11373.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
總共一百海里 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
11373.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
11375.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
那你就可以去算算我們真正航行成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
11375.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
11377.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
大概有多長的距離 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
11378.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
11380.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
好那所以大部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
11380.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
11382.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
包括到巴丹我們都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
11382.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
11384.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
被拖行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
11384.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
11386.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
那這不是誰手的錯誤本席對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
11386.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
11388.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
這個計畫是非常的贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
11388.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
11390.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
但是你們這整個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].start |
11390.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
11392.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].text |
的不完備跟不專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
11392.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].end |
11394.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].text |
讓太多人在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].start |
11394.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].end |
11396.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].text |
不安全的情境下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].start |
11396.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].end |
11398.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].text |
所以本席覺得這個你們要深刻的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].start |
11398.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].end |
11400.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].text |
檢討本席已經把你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].start |
11400.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].end |
11402.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].text |
有航行成功的航段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].start |
11402.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].end |
11404.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].text |
算給你聽了所以你應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].start |
11404.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].end |
11406.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].text |
好好的仔細算一下你們真正航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].start |
11406.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].end |
11408.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].text |
成功有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].start |
11408.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].end |
11410.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].text |
好所以這個真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].start |
11410.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].end |
11412.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].text |
非常值得要檢討的不只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].start |
11412.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].end |
11414.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
預算可能沒有用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].start |
11414.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].end |
11416.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].text |
很有效度最重要是讓太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].start |
11416.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].end |
11418.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].text |
的水手在不安全的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
11418.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].end |
11420.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].text |
情況下那這點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
11420.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].end |
11422.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].text |
其實不僅要檢討你們未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].start |
11422.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].end |
11424.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].text |
也要預防這樣子的情形發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].start |
11424.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].end |
11426.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].text |
好所以那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
11426.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].end |
11428.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].text |
我想說請副主委還有我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
11428.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].end |
11430.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].text |
教人處我們共同來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
11430.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].end |
11432.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
協助我們原住民的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].start |
11432.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].end |
11434.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
航海文化啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
11434.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].end |
11436.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
我們重點是要航行成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
11436.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
11438.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].text |
那不管造船或造舟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
11438.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].end |
11440.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
的附贈要讓他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
11440.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
11442.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].text |
真正實際上能夠成就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
11442.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].end |
11444.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
好所以本席在這邊要請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
11444.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
11446.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
這個副主委跟我們教人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
11446.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
11448.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
還有董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
11448.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
11450.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].text |
那以目前的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
11450.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].end |
11452.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].text |
我們是不是在各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
11452.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].end |
11454.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
跟各項計畫裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
11454.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].end |
11456.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
的這個預算能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
11456.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].end |
11458.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
來支撐我們東海岸或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
11458.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].end |
11460.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
所謂原住民裡面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
11460.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].end |
11462.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].text |
這個海洋民族很像我們阿美族 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].start |
11462.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].end |
11464.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].text |
還有達悟族等等最直接的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].start |
11464.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].end |
11466.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].text |
跟太平洋這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
11466.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].end |
11468.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
接觸的這個族群跟部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
11468.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].end |
11470.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].text |
的這個造船航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
11470.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].end |
11472.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
跟產業好這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
11472.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
11474.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].text |
是不是可以得到原民會的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
11474.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].end |
11476.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
承諾跟支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
11476.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].end |
11478.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
各位報告那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
11478.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].end |
11480.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
像在東海岸有一些NGO團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
11480.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].end |
11482.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].text |
甚至現在有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
11482.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].end |
11484.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].text |
所以你們會支持嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].start |
11484.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
11486.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
好那第二個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].start |
11486.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
11488.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
剛才你們其實談到了兩個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
11488.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
11490.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
包括那個先前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
11490.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
11492.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
從別來的船還有未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
11492.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
11494.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
11494.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
11496.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
目前停在紐西蘭的那一艘 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
11496.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].end |
11498.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].text |
夏威夷船 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
11498.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
11500.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
未來他們可能要來台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
11500.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
11502.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].text |
他們來了台灣除了我們看各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
11502.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].end |
11504.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].text |
這些來台灣成功航行到台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
11504.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].end |
11506.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].text |
成功航行到台灣的船 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
11506.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
11508.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].text |
作為各部會的績效以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
11508.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
11510.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
那這整體的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
11510.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
11512.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
究竟對台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
11512.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
11514.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
航海文化的效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
11514.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
11516.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
跟實際的成就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
11516.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
11518.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
到底在哪裡希望原民會這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
11518.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
11520.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
能夠做一些主導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
11520.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
11522.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
那如果你們還有相關的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
11522.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
11524.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
我們在會後可以提供給你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
11524.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
11526.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
這兩艘船來這邊各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
11526.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
11528.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
各行其道但最重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
11528.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
11530.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
拋了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
11529.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
11531.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
宣傳部會成果的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
11531.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
11533.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
騙子但是這個真的是把 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
11533.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
11535.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
台灣的航海文化做起來了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
11536.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
11538.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
好所以這裡是本期要強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
11538.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
11540.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
整個南島文化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
11540.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
11542.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
這個外交很重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
11542.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
11544.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].text |
原住民族的航行的水水 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
11544.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
11546.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].text |
也好青年人也好要學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
11546.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].end |
11548.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].text |
怎麼造船造舟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
11548.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
11550.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].text |
第二個部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
11550.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
11552.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].text |
我相信從土軍一直傳承下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
11552.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].end |
11554.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
目前失去但是你們還沒有找回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
11554.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
11556.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
的是辨識整個天文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
11556.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
11558.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].text |
水上的知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
11558.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].end |
11560.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].text |
那我相信傳統的知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].start |
11560.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].end |
11562.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
是可用的氣候變遷 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
11562.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
11564.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
也是每段時期都在變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
11564.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].end |
11566.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].text |
但是你們沒有掌握這些東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
11566.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
11568.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
就讓大家在險境當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
11568.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
11570.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
這點不僅要檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
11570.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
11572.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
也希望你未來應該要擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
11572.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
11574.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].text |
對於原住民族航海文化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
11574.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
11576.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].text |
一個知識性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
11576.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
11578.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].text |
那要讓更多人來參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
11578.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].end |
11580.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].text |
那你們這樣一個專案似乎在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
11580.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].end |
11582.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].text |
一開始就太狹隘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].start |
11582.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].end |
11584.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].text |
好所以本期這邊要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
11584.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].end |
11586.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].text |
談一下你們經常跟海委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
11586.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].end |
11588.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].text |
海委會經理也有代表來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
11588.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
11590.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].text |
但是可能不是主要的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
11590.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].end |
11592.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].text |
海委會的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].start |
11592.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].end |
11594.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].start |
11593.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].end |
11595.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].text |
也請您上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].start |
11595.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].end |
11597.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].text |
那還有會跟這個原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
11597.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].end |
11599.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].text |
你們在所有的這樣一個計畫的合作當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].start |
11599.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].end |
11601.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].text |
應該更緊密 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
11601.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].end |
11603.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].text |
那不管是先前的帛琉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].start |
11603.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].end |
11605.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].text |
跟之後的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].start |
11605.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].end |
11607.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].text |
所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].start |
11607.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].end |
11609.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].text |
夏威夷的船要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].start |
11609.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].end |
11611.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].text |
我們都希望這一點能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].start |
11611.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].end |
11615.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].text |
借重他們航行成功的航海知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].start |
11615.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].end |
11617.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].text |
真的來教育我們台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
11617.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].end |
11619.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].text |
失去的航海文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].start |
11619.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].end |
11621.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].text |
給 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
11620.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].end |
11622.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].text |
有興趣的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
11622.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].end |
11624.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
那包括原住民常常海委會你們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].start |
11624.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].end |
11626.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].text |
這些計畫當中原住民都被你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].start |
11626.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].end |
11628.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].text |
排除在外或不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].start |
11628.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
11630.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].text |
你們在透過這些船 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
11630.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
11632.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
來到這邊計畫的實踐的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].start |
11632.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].end |
11634.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].text |
一些相關的子計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].start |
11634.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].end |
11636.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].text |
本期希望你們在未來這兩艘 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].start |
11636.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].end |
11638.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].text |
這一些一直來台灣的船 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
11638.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
11640.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
拿到政府的經費的同時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
11640.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
11642.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
也應該真正實踐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
11642.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
11644.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
台灣航海文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
11644.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
11646.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
人才的一個培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
11646.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].end |
11648.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].text |
這點希望兩個大會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
11648.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
11650.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].text |
是不是可以緊密的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].start |
11650.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
11652.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
尤其原民會你們應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
11652.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
11654.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
拿到航海文化的話語權 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
11654.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
11656.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].text |
跟主導權 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
11656.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
11658.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
好,那所以接下來本期 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
11658.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
11660.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].text |
有很實際的建議,也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
11661.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
11663.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].text |
原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
11663.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
11665.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].text |
包括這個原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
11665.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
11667.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].text |
你們是不是應該要專任輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
11667.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
11669.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
東海岸的各鄉鎮跟各部落的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
11669.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
11671.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
造船文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
11671.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
11673.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
而且要啟動實際的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].start |
11673.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].end |
11675.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].text |
航行計畫,我們就從比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
11675.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
11677.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].text |
小的開始嘛,我們先把 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
11677.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
11679.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
傳統船附贈,然後真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
11679.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
11681.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].text |
用一些比賽或用真正一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].start |
11681.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].end |
11683.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
航行的小計畫讓它 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
11683.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
11685.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
真正航行成功嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].start |
11685.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
11687.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].text |
好不好,而不是一個很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].start |
11687.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].end |
11689.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].text |
計畫到最後你們成功的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
11689.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].end |
11691.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].text |
成功拖行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
11691.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
11693.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
而沒有真的完成成功的航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
11694.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].end |
11696.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].text |
那這點有點遺憾跟可惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].start |
11696.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].end |
11698.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
所以是不是可以答應本期剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
11698.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
11700.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
第一個建議,就是說我們真的來附贈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
11700.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
11702.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
我們的造船文化,然後啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
11702.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].end |
11704.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].text |
真正的實際航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].start |
11706.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].end |
11708.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].text |
本期上次在那個院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].start |
11708.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].end |
11710.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].text |
我想這個院長這邊也很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].start |
11710.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].end |
11712.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].text |
我們傳統項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].start |
11712.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].end |
11714.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].text |
的一些競賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].start |
11714.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].end |
11716.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].text |
所以本期有這樣一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].start |
11716.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].end |
11718.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].text |
所以應該透過這種造船,讓真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].start |
11718.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].end |
11720.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].text |
造船文化,包括東海岸很多嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].start |
11720.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].end |
11722.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].text |
那來源應該也是可以有這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].start |
11722.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].end |
11724.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].text |
比賽,只是說東海岸的海象 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].start |
11724.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].end |
11726.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].text |
或許機會也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].start |
11726.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].end |
11728.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].text |
比較大,所以是不是可以讓東海岸 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].start |
11728.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].end |
11730.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].text |
的部落或鄉鎮來造船 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].start |
11730.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].end |
11732.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].text |
以前都曾經有過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
11732.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].end |
11734.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].text |
我們透過有的知識,造船知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].start |
11734.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].end |
11736.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].text |
讓它附贈嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].start |
11736.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].end |
11738.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
但最重要的是要實踐嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].start |
11738.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
11740.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].text |
我們不能一時之在拖行嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].start |
11740.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].end |
11742.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].text |
好不好,不能把陸地上的那趟拿到海上好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
11743.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].end |
11745.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
好不好,那這個部分是不是可以請副座 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
11745.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
11747.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
承諾,因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
11747.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].end |
11749.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].text |
它不是太難做,而且應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
11749.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].end |
11751.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].text |
面目偵測 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].start |
11751.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].end |
11753.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].text |
好,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].start |
11753.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].end |
11755.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].text |
接下來就是原住民的這個航海學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
11755.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].end |
11757.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].text |
那你們應該在東海岸 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
11757.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].end |
11759.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].text |
或者是海洋的這個我們島嶼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].start |
11759.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].end |
11761.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].text |
建置一些航海的基地 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
11761.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].end |
11763.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].text |
那這點應該公部門來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
11763.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].end |
11765.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].text |
強力的這個支撐嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].start |
11765.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].end |
11767.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].text |
那我們知道民間很多這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
11767.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].end |
11769.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
能量,但是如果你們沒有支撐的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
11769.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].end |
11771.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
他們其實也很難做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
11771.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].end |
11773.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
所以是不是可以答應本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
11773.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
11775.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
把這些,真的有在投入的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].start |
11777.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].end |
11779.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].text |
這個海洋文化基地 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].start |
11779.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].end |
11781.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].text |
讓透過公部門的一切支撐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].start |
11781.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].end |
11783.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].text |
讓專業的原住民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].start |
11783.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].end |
11785.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].text |
南島的航海文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].start |
11785.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].end |
11787.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].text |
能夠在這些基地實踐呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].start |
11788.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].end |
11790.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].text |
我想委員提這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].start |
11790.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].end |
11792.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].text |
我們會研議一個中長程計畫來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].start |
11792.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].end |
11794.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].text |
這樣的相關的事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].start |
11794.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].end |
11796.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].text |
那接下來很重要的是這些舟艇船 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].start |
11796.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].end |
11798.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].text |
造完了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].start |
11798.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].end |
11800.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].text |
到最後都爛在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].start |
11800.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].end |
11802.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].text |
外面了,所以本席也要跟文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].start |
11802.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].end |
11804.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].text |
文化部今天也是有相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].start |
11804.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].end |
11806.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].text |
代表嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].start |
11806.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].end |
11808.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].text |
文化部,首先要謝謝你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].start |
11808.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].end |
11810.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].text |
對航海文化,現在各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].start |
11810.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].end |
11812.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].text |
都有很多計畫在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].start |
11812.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].end |
11814.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].text |
但是這個進行沒有讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].start |
11814.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].end |
11816.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].text |
這個文化活起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].start |
11816.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].end |
11818.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].text |
文化船的典藏 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].start |
11818.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].end |
11820.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].text |
是不是你們也可以協助一下原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].start |
11820.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].end |
11822.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].text |
或協助目前已經有造成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].start |
11822.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].end |
11824.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].text |
舟艇,應該有一些典藏的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].start |
11826.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].end |
11828.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].text |
可能性跟典藏的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].start |
11828.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].end |
11830.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].text |
那當它造出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].start |
11830.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].end |
11832.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].text |
那後來放在外面爛掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].start |
11832.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].end |
11834.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].text |
實在很可惜,本席就看過了好幾艘 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].start |
11834.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].end |
11836.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].text |
那唯一的好處就是本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].start |
11836.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].end |
11838.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].text |
可以直接看到,但是看到都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].start |
11838.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].end |
11840.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].text |
快要壞掉跟爛掉,然後我想你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].start |
11840.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].end |
11842.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].text |
在典藏的一個專業上都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].start |
11842.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].end |
11844.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].text |
那一些溫度、濕度等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].start |
11844.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].end |
11846.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].text |
那是讓這些能夠好好維持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].start |
11847.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].end |
11849.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].text |
未來的一個文化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].start |
11849.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].end |
11851.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].text |
文化面的這個典藏應該是很重要的吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].start |
11851.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].end |
11853.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].text |
所以是不是可以請文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].start |
11853.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].end |
11855.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].text |
除了在展示以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].start |
11855.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].end |
11857.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].text |
可以在典藏的部分協助一下原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].start |
11857.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].end |
11859.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].text |
那原民會你們最重要的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].start |
11859.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].end |
11861.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].text |
我們要讓這個海洋文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].start |
11861.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].end |
11863.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].text |
附贈,不僅是海洋的知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].start |
11863.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].end |
11865.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].text |
還有海洋的載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].start |
11865.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].end |
11867.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].text |
最重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].start |
11867.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].end |
11869.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].text |
它要活起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].start |
11869.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].end |
11871.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].text |
因為全世界現在大家都還在航行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].start |
11871.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].end |
11873.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].text |
我相信我們一定是可以航行成功的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].start |
11873.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].end |
11875.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].start |
11875.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].end |
11877.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].text |
好,謝謝,那加油囉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].start |
11886.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].end |
11888.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].text |
下一位請王洪威委員發言資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].start |
11897.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].end |
11899.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].text |
好,謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].start |
11899.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].end |
11903.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].text |
我請我們原委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].start |
11903.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].end |
11905.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].text |
今天是副主委嘛,對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].start |
11905.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].end |
11909.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].text |
還有我們原民基金會的董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].start |
11913.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].end |
11915.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].text |
好,委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].start |
11915.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].end |
11917.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].text |
副主委,董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].start |
11917.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].end |
11919.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].text |
在你們今天的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].start |
11919.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].end |
11921.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].text |
有特別提到在去年底 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].start |
11921.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].end |
11927.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].text |
舉辦的世界原住民傳統運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].start |
11927.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].end |
11929.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].text |
但是呢,在我們的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].start |
11929.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].end |
11931.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].text |
卻看不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].start |
11931.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].end |
11933.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].text |
有關於我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].start |
11933.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].end |
11935.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].text |
世元運動會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].start |
11935.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].end |
11937.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].text |
那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].start |
11937.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].end |
11939.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].text |
在去年底我們舉辦之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].start |
11939.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].end |
11941.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].text |
那麼未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].start |
11941.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].end |
11943.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].text |
我們還會不會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].start |
11943.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].end |
11945.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].text |
政策性推動的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].start |
11945.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].end |
11947.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].text |
因為在原民會也說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].start |
11947.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].end |
11949.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].text |
這不是原民會經常性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].start |
11949.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].end |
11951.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].text |
業務預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].start |
11951.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].end |
11953.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].text |
那就是一個執行單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].start |
11953.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].end |
11955.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].text |
所以我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].start |
11955.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].end |
11957.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].text |
我們在去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].start |
11957.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].end |
11959.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].text |
這樣的一個特別辦理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].start |
11959.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].end |
11961.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].text |
這個世元運 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].start |
11961.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].end |
11963.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].text |
接下來我們原委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].start |
11963.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].end |
11965.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].text |
還有沒有任何 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].start |
11965.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].end |
11967.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].text |
政策性的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].start |
11967.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].end |
11969.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].text |
比如說它會屬於常態性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].start |
11969.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].end |
11971.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].text |
或者兩年做一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].start |
11971.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].end |
11973.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].text |
或者四年做一次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].start |
11973.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].end |
11975.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].text |
這樣的任何的規劃嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].start |
11975.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].end |
11977.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].text |
各位報告,這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].start |
11977.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].end |
11979.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].text |
去年所辦的世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].start |
11979.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].end |
11981.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].text |
傳統原住民運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].start |
11981.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].end |
11983.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].text |
後來在跟各個的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].start |
11983.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].end |
11985.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].text |
在文化加入上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].start |
11985.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].end |
11987.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].text |
有很大的幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].start |
11987.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].end |
11989.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].text |
那我們事實上也規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].start |
11989.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].end |
11991.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].text |
以後兩年一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].start |
11991.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].end |
11993.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].text |
就是在116年我們也有相關的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].start |
11993.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].end |
11995.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].text |
來爭取來辦理這個運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].start |
11995.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].end |
11997.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].text |
所以未來它會屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].start |
11997.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].end |
11999.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].text |
兩年一次的常態性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].start |
11999.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].end |
12001.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].text |
一個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].start |
12001.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].end |
12003.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].text |
對,因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].start |
12003.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].end |
12005.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].text |
我們去年辦完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].start |
12005.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].end |
12007.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].text |
我們當然要繼續去追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].start |
12007.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].end |
12009.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].text |
你們認為花了也是八千多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].start |
12009.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].end |
12011.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].text |
那這樣的一個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].start |
12011.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].end |
12013.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].text |
到底它有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].start |
12013.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].end |
12015.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].text |
繼續再帶下去的價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].start |
12015.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].end |
12017.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].text |
因為我們之前沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].start |
12017.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].end |
12019.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].text |
你們有任何的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].start |
12019.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].end |
12021.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].text |
實際的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].start |
12021.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].end |
12023.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].text |
另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].start |
12023.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].end |
12025.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].text |
要請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].start |
12029.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].end |
12031.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].start |
12030.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].end |
12032.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].text |
我們副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].start |
12032.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].end |
12034.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].text |
大約一號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].start |
12034.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].end |
12036.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].text |
原住民卓日 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].start |
12036.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].end |
12038.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].text |
那當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].start |
12038.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].end |
12040.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].text |
我們有8月1號原住民卓日的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].start |
12040.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].end |
12042.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].text |
是很合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].start |
12043.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].end |
12045.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].start |
12045.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].end |
12047.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].text |
以今年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].start |
12047.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].end |
12049.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].text |
我們在原住民卓日 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].start |
12049.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].end |
12051.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].text |
活動的勞務採購案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].start |
12051.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].end |
12053.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].text |
絕標金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].start |
12053.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].end |
12055.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].text |
高達1930萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].start |
12057.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].end |
12059.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].text |
高達1930萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].start |
12060.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].end |
12062.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].text |
如果跟去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].start |
12062.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].end |
12064.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].text |
這個是每一年都有8月1號的原住民卓日 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].start |
12066.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].end |
12068.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].text |
去年呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].start |
12068.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].end |
12070.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].text |
只有290萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].start |
12070.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].end |
12072.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].text |
增加的比例是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].start |
12072.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].end |
12076.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].text |
565.65倍之多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].start |
12077.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].end |
12079.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].text |
第一個我想請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].start |
12079.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].end |
12081.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].start |
12081.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].end |
12083.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].text |
今年度的同樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].start |
12083.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].end |
12085.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].text |
平都是原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].start |
12085.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].end |
12087.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].text |
主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].start |
12087.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].end |
12089.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].text |
為什麼今年採購金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].start |
12089.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].end |
12091.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].text |
突然暴增成這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].start |
12092.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].end |
12094.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].start |
12094.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].end |
12096.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].text |
第一個當然是時間沒有拉長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].start |
12096.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].end |
12098.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].text |
我們3天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].start |
12098.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].end |
12100.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].text |
那之前可能就是1天而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].start |
12100.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].end |
12102.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].text |
為什麼今年變3天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].start |
12101.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].end |
12103.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].text |
為什麼以前的1天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].start |
12103.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].end |
12105.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].text |
跟那個台下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].start |
12105.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].end |
12107.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].text |
就是夏威夷合辦的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].start |
12107.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].end |
12109.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].text |
那他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].start |
12109.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].end |
12111.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].text |
而且又是會裡面的30週年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].start |
12111.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].end |
12113.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].text |
所以我們這次比較擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].start |
12113.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].end |
12115.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].text |
今年特別擴大舉辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].start |
12115.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].end |
12117.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].text |
因為我們是30週年原民會成立30週年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].start |
12117.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].end |
12119.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].text |
所以你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].start |
12119.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].end |
12121.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].text |
我們的一個這個所謂的採購案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].start |
12123.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].end |
12125.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].text |
從109年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].start |
12125.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].end |
12127.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].text |
109年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].start |
12127.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].end |
12129.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].text |
除了114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].start |
12129.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].end |
12131.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].text |
這個是最少290萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].start |
12133.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].end |
12135.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].text |
除了這個114年是被一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].start |
12136.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].end |
12138.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].text |
相差科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].start |
12138.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].end |
12140.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].text |
事業股份有限公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].start |
12140.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].end |
12142.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].text |
飆走之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].start |
12142.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].end |
12144.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].text |
其他全面性的包含今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].start |
12144.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].end |
12146.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].text |
恢復都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].start |
12146.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].end |
12148.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].text |
山海關國際整合行銷公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].start |
12150.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].end |
12152.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].text |
我講過其實我對於標案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].start |
12152.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].end |
12154.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].text |
我最在乎的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].start |
12154.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].end |
12156.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].text |
就是是不是過度集中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].start |
12156.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].end |
12158.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].text |
是不是連續 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].start |
12158.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].end |
12160.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].text |
我們政府的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].start |
12160.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].end |
12162.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].text |
可以好多年都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].start |
12162.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].end |
12164.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].text |
只有一個公司或一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].start |
12164.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].end |
12166.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].text |
單位得標 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].start |
12166.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].end |
12168.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].text |
我覺得這都是非常令人覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].start |
12168.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].end |
12170.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].text |
不可思議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].start |
12170.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].end |
12172.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].text |
而且呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].start |
12171.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].end |
12173.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].text |
為什麼114年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].start |
12173.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].end |
12175.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].text |
就不是這個山海關國際行銷公司啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].start |
12177.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].end |
12179.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].text |
月後我們發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].start |
12179.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].end |
12181.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].text |
陳寅委員的助理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].start |
12181.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].end |
12183.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].text |
曾經在114年之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].start |
12183.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].end |
12185.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].text |
曾經在114年之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].start |
12185.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].end |
12187.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].text |
針對這個山海關國際公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].start |
12187.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].end |
12189.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].text |
針對這個山海關國際公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].start |
12189.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].end |
12191.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].text |
針對這個山海關國際公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].start |
12191.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].end |
12193.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].text |
針對這個山海關國際公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].start |
12193.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].end |
12195.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].text |
針對這個山海關國際公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].start |
12195.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].end |
12197.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].text |
針對這個山海關國際公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].start |
12197.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].end |
12199.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].text |
針對這個山海關國際公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].start |
12199.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].end |
12201.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].text |
針對這個山海關國際公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].start |
12201.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].end |
12203.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].text |
針對這個山海關國際公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].start |
12203.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].end |
12205.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].text |
針對這個山海關國際公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].start |
12205.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].end |
12207.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].text |
針對這個山海關國際公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].start |
12190.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].end |
12192.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].text |
在他的社群做了很多的批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].start |
12192.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].end |
12194.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].text |
在他的社群做了很多的批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].start |
12195.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].end |
12197.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].text |
他有講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].start |
12197.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].end |
12199.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].text |
聽說山海關國際行銷有限公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].start |
12199.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].end |
12201.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].text |
是許多原民主管機關的愛用廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].start |
12201.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].end |
12203.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].text |
是許多原民主管機關的愛用廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].start |
12203.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].end |
12205.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].text |
然後hashtag |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].start |
12205.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].end |
12207.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].text |
專門欺負原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].start |
12207.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].end |
12209.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].text |
或者他也有質疑說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].start |
12209.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].end |
12211.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].text |
或者他也有質疑說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].start |
12211.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].end |
12213.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].text |
山海關的吳宗山後台到底有多硬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].start |
12213.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].end |
12215.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].text |
他說好多好聽的故事都到我這裡了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].start |
12215.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].end |
12217.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].text |
他說好多好聽的故事都到我這裡了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].start |
12217.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].end |
12219.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].text |
感覺超銷商沒有在怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].start |
12220.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].end |
12222.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].text |
我不知道是不是因為這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].start |
12222.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].end |
12224.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].text |
所以這整個你可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].start |
12224.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].end |
12226.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].text |
所以這整個你可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].start |
12226.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].end |
12228.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].text |
每一年都是這個山海關國際行銷公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].start |
12228.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].end |
12230.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].text |
每一年都是這個山海關國際行銷公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].start |
12230.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].end |
12232.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].text |
在標到唯獨在114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].start |
12232.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].end |
12234.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].text |
你們不敢標給他了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].start |
12234.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].end |
12236.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].text |
但是金額都變得很低 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].start |
12236.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].end |
12238.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].text |
但是金額都變得很低 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].start |
12238.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].end |
12240.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].text |
你可以看到其他在114年之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].start |
12240.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].end |
12242.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].text |
你可以看到其他在114年之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].start |
12242.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].end |
12244.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].text |
都有契約變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].start |
12244.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].end |
12246.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].text |
每一年的金額都遠遠大於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].start |
12246.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].end |
12248.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].text |
去年的290萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].start |
12248.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].end |
12250.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].text |
然後今年決定擴大舉辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].start |
12250.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].end |
12252.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].text |
然後今年決定擴大舉辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].start |
12252.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].end |
12254.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].text |
讓我合理懷疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].start |
12254.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].end |
12256.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].text |
是不是因為114年他沒有標到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].start |
12256.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].end |
12258.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].text |
所以今年再加金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].start |
12258.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].end |
12260.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].text |
來辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].start |
12272.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].end |
12274.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].text |
準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].start |
12273.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].end |
12275.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].text |
我不懂耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].start |
12275.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].end |
12277.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].text |
其他公司不能辦嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].start |
12278.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].end |
12280.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].text |
他們都沒有來標嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].start |
12280.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].end |
12282.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].text |
你們都跟我講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].start |
12282.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].end |
12284.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].text |
按照採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].start |
12284.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].end |
12286.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].text |
我們都按照採購程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].start |
12286.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].end |
12288.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].text |
因為很多公司都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].start |
12288.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].end |
12290.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].text |
久了以後你們都有潛規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].start |
12290.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].end |
12292.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].text |
他再來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].start |
12292.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].end |
12294.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].text |
都只是來做陪榜 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].start |
12294.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].end |
12296.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].text |
陪公子念書而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].start |
12296.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].end |
12298.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].text |
所以造成一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].start |
12298.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].end |
12300.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].text |
原住民族日 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].start |
12301.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].end |
12303.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].text |
過度集中在某一家公司裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].start |
12304.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].end |
12306.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].text |
而且今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].start |
12306.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].end |
12308.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].text |
爆增金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].start |
12308.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].end |
12310.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].text |
金額可能是30年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].start |
12310.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].end |
12312.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].text |
到辦理的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].start |
12312.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].end |
12314.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].text |
就這樣爆增了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].start |
12315.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].end |
12317.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].text |
所以我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].start |
12317.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].end |
12319.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].text |
有關於這些標案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].start |
12319.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].end |
12321.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].text |
我還是會繼續的去盯住啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].start |
12323.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].end |
12325.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].text |
我覺得如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].start |
12325.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].end |
12327.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].text |
今天只是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].start |
12327.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].end |
12329.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].text |
當時陳寅委員的助理對這家公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].start |
12329.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].end |
12331.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].text |
顯然他也應該聽到一些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].start |
12331.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].end |
12333.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].text |
他質疑了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].start |
12333.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].end |
12335.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].text |
所以你們那時候避風頭不敢給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].start |
12335.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].end |
12337.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].text |
今年呢再給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].start |
12337.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].end |
12339.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].text |
而且金額加碼這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].start |
12340.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].end |
12342.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].text |
所以這些標案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].start |
12342.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].end |
12344.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].text |
都要已招公信 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].start |
12344.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].end |
12346.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].text |
我把他列出來我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].start |
12346.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].end |
12348.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].text |
很多的委員會再做觀音看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].start |
12348.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].end |
12350.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].text |
大家都是行家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].start |
12350.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].end |
12352.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].text |
這場標案沒有貓膩 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].start |
12352.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].end |
12354.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].text |
什麼才會擁抱你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].start |
12354.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].end |
12356.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].text |
所以我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].start |
12356.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].end |
12358.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].text |
就是請我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].start |
12358.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].end |
12360.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].text |
這個委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].start |
12360.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].end |
12362.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].text |
能夠把這個相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].start |
12362.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].end |
12364.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].text |
今年到底為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].start |
12364.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].end |
12366.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].text |
你們要這樣大幅增加到將近兩千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].start |
12368.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].end |
12372.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].text |
然後又回覆給原來的公司去做成標 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].start |
12372.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].end |
12374.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].text |
希望你能夠提供比較詳細的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].start |
12374.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].end |
12376.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].text |
這個書面報告給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].start |
12376.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].end |
12378.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].text |
否則的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].start |
12378.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].end |
12380.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].text |
我們本來像我剛才一開始問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].start |
12380.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].end |
12382.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].text |
你們應該會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].start |
12382.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].end |
12384.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].text |
你們覺得有成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].start |
12384.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].end |
12386.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].text |
有文化交流原住民的文化交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].start |
12386.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].end |
12388.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].text |
我們其實也都會支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].start |
12388.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].end |
12390.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].text |
但是不要去集中特別廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].start |
12390.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].end |
12392.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].start |
12394.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].end |
12396.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].text |
委員會之前前幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].start |
12396.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].end |
12398.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].text |
我就講說他可能是單一的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].start |
12398.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].end |
12400.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].text |
可能是行政會議可能是論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].start |
12400.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].end |
12402.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].text |
所以他的費用是比較低 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].start |
12402.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].end |
12404.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].text |
但至於說三海關這個事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].start |
12404.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].end |
12406.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].text |
我們海上的採購法有時候來標註兩家一家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].start |
12406.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].end |
12408.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].text |
那個都可受公評 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].start |
12408.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].end |
12410.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].text |
可以看那個標案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].start |
12410.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].end |
12412.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].text |
他們實際這個內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].start |
12412.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].end |
12414.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].text |
每一次的你們的集中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].start |
12414.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].end |
12416.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].text |
你們每一次的集中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].start |
12416.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].end |
12418.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].text |
通通都說可受 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].start |
12418.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].end |
12420.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].text |
我已經跟你講了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].start |
12420.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].end |
12422.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].text |
很多業者都已經知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].start |
12422.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].end |
12424.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].text |
現在看這樣子還知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].start |
12424.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].end |
12426.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].text |
還要來標嗎每一次都三海關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].start |
12426.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].end |
12428.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].start |
12428.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].end |
12430.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].text |
每一次都三海關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].start |
12430.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].end |
12432.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].text |
而且還契約每一次都契約變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].start |
12432.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].end |
12434.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].text |
換了一家公司就沒有契約變更了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].start |
12434.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].end |
12436.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].text |
經營的特別少也不會做契約變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].start |
12436.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].end |
12438.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].text |
我不曉得你今年還會不會做契約變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].start |
12438.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].end |
12440.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].start |
12440.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].end |
12442.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].text |
希望你們這些標案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].start |
12442.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].end |
12444.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].text |
要以招公信 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].start |
12444.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].end |
12446.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].text |
不要每一次都特定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].start |
12446.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].end |
12448.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].text |
就是集中在某一家公司上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].start |
12448.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].end |
12450.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].text |
好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].start |
12450.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].end |
12452.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].text |
這個我們會檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].start |
12463.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].end |
12465.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].text |
好現在處理臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].start |
12465.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].end |
12467.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].text |
共兩案請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].start |
12467.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].end |
12471.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].text |
臨時提案1 鑒於國家語言整體發展方案中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].start |
12471.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].end |
12475.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].text |
原住民族族語節目與影音製作計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].start |
12475.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].end |
12477.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].text |
跨國族語節目製播計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].start |
12477.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].end |
12481.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].text |
所編列經費應用於族語節目製播及人才培育之用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].start |
12481.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].end |
12487.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].text |
維基經典迷你劇遠洋時代及族語戲劇劇本爭議後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].start |
12487.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].end |
12489.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].text |
再度發聲以世界原住民族運動會為名 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].start |
12489.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].end |
12493.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].text |
將族語節目製播經費支應與族語推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].start |
12493.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].end |
12495.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].text |
關聯性不足之賽事及周邊活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].start |
12495.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].end |
12497.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].text |
已有經費用途偏離原定政策目的之疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].start |
12502.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].end |
12506.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].text |
海陸南島與族航海計畫投入3850萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].start |
12506.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].end |
12510.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].text |
原定兩天一夜之航程最終縮短為約3小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].start |
12510.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].end |
12514.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].text |
並發生船體受損及未完成原定航程等情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].start |
12514.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].end |
12516.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].text |
事後卻仍以圓滿成功對外宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].start |
12516.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].end |
12522.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].text |
相關檢討報告意味具體釐清決策規劃旅約管理及就責責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].start |
12523.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].end |
12529.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].text |
有原住民族廣播電台訊源傳播及監控系統設備建置與相關基地台設置案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].start |
12529.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].end |
12535.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].text |
原預計10個月內完工歷經將近10年仍未完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].start |
12535.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].end |
12538.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].text |
迄今意味見原文會就契約管理工程延宕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].start |
12538.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].end |
12543.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].text |
廠商違約驗收控管及相關人員責任提出完整說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].start |
12543.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].end |
12547.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].text |
為釐清經費用途至合法性計畫執行是否符合政策目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].start |
12547.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].end |
12549.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].text |
及相關責任歸屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].start |
12549.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].end |
12553.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].text |
原住民族委員會及財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].start |
12553.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].end |
12557.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].text |
於一個月內辦理下列事項並書面含附立法院內政委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].start |
12557.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].end |
12562.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].text |
一主案說明預算來源核定計畫實際支用項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].start |
12562.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].end |
12565.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].text |
經而及其與足以政策目的關聯性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].start |
12565.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].end |
12570.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].text |
二檢討個案規劃採購旅約驗收及監督及督導過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].start |
12570.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].end |
12575.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].text |
並釐清原文會成辦人員及旅約廠商自責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].start |
12575.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].end |
12578.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].text |
三、針對旅約情形計畫延宕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].start |
12579.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].end |
12585.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].text |
二、執行成果為符預期及經費使用缺失情形核定提出檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].start |
12585.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].end |
12586.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].text |
四、 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].start |
12586.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].end |
12591.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].text |
提出具體改善措施包括經費控管重大計畫風險評估旅約查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].start |
12591.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].end |
12595.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].text |
私訊公開及究責機制避免類似情形再次發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].start |
12595.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].end |
12599.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].text |
五、請原文會說明上開一至四 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].start |
12599.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].end |
12605.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].text |
取原文會說明監督原文會之改善情形提案人高晶素梅等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].start |
12605.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].end |
12606.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].text |
臨時提案二 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].start |
12606.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].end |
12607.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].text |
有鑑於援助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].start |
12608.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].end |
12616.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].text |
民人口自一百一十四年至一百一十五年六月底增加近二點六萬人增幅約四百分之四點二四 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].start |
12616.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].end |
12622.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].text |
然原住民主委員會卻未同步向行政院爭取相應之預算及人力資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].start |
12622.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].end |
12629.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].text |
現有各項原住民主政策福利及補助資源恐因服務對象持續增加而遭稀釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].start |
12629.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].end |
12631.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].text |
影響既有族人權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].start |
12631.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].end |
12638.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].text |
就目前審議之原住民主原住民身份法修正草案意味建原民會就各項修法可能增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].start |
12638.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].end |
12645.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].text |
資源住民族人口各項福利政策影響所需預算規模中央及地方政府配套措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].start |
12645.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].end |
12651.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].text |
以及各部會應辦事項進行完整評估恐影響後續政策推動及財政規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].start |
12651.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].end |
12659.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].text |
據此原請原住民主委員會於兩個月內完成整體影響評估並以書面送至立法院內政委員會內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].start |
12659.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].end |
12661.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].text |
其中兩項評估包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].start |
12661.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].end |
12664.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].text |
一近兩年原住民主人口增加情形及未來人口推估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].start |
12664.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].end |
12666.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].text |
二希拉亞族及其他評估原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].start |
12667.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].end |
12671.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].text |
族群納入後各項政策福利及服務對象增加情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].start |
12671.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].end |
12678.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].text |
三原住民身份法修正後可能增加人口數各項預算需求及財政影響分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].start |
12678.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].end |
12684.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].text |
四各部會因新增原住民族人口應配合辦理事項經費需求及分工規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].start |
12684.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].end |
12691.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].text |
五原住原民會向行政院爭取新增預算及人力資源之具體規劃與期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].start |
12692.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].end |
12694.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].text |
提案人高晶素梅等人宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].start |
12696.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].end |
12698.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].text |
好 兩岸應該都公通過了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].start |
12698.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].end |
12700.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].text |
請問提案委員有要說明的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].start |
12713.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].end |
12717.08 |
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好 臨時提案第二個我大概說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].start |
12717.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].end |
12720.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].text |
我是覺得這個大家的想法是很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].start |
12720.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].end |
12723.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].text |
但是呢大家要審慎評估一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].start |
12723.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].end |
12728.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].text |
就是我們原住民身份法的修正草案如果OK的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].start |
12728.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].end |
12733.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].text |
那個基層的民意代表可能會影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].start |
12733.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].end |
12736.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].text |
那是不是其他的委員也能夠支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].start |
12736.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].end |
12739.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].text |
因為人口增加了我們大家地方選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].start |
12739.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].end |
12742.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].text |
包括代表代表議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].start |
12742.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].end |
12745.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].text |
所以我今天這個臨時提案就是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].start |
12746.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].end |
12752.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].text |
這個原民會能夠完整的提出以下的幾點大家沒有想到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].start |
12752.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].end |
12753.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].text |
包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].start |
12753.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].end |
12755.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].text |
財政的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].start |
12755.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].end |
12758.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].text |
我們的政府行政院是不是能夠多給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].start |
12758.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].end |
12760.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].text |
那這些如果都沒有考量到的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].start |
12760.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].end |
12764.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].text |
我覺得修法其實真的會影響蠻大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].start |
12764.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].end |
12770.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].text |
所以以上提供這個臨時提案的1、2、3、4、5項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].start |
12770.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].end |
12772.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].text |
供在場的委員們參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].start |
12772.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].end |
12774.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].text |
也請原民會參考 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].start |
12781.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].end |
12785.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].text |
主委就按照剛才你們要回應嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].start |
12785.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].end |
12787.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].text |
沒事 不會照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].start |
12792.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].end |
12796.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].text |
一般說明一下剛高進委員講的臨時提案第二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].start |
12797.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].end |
12799.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].text |
委員這個說明這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].start |
12799.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].end |
12803.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].text |
希望我們提供書面報告這樣的一個評估的作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].start |
12803.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].end |
12805.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].text |
事實上涉及的非常廣泛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].start |
12805.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].end |
12809.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].text |
那我們是希望說是不是有可能給我們再多一點的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].start |
12809.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].end |
12813.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].text |
因為兩個月可能這些東西要去規劃出來有困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].start |
12814.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].end |
12816.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].start |
12815.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].end |
12817.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].text |
今天要修法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].start |
12818.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].end |
12820.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].text |
時間我們有意見了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].start |
12820.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].end |
12824.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].text |
當然就是你們一定要完整的這些評估報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].start |
12824.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].end |
12826.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].text |
還有這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].start |
12826.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].end |
12828.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].text |
我覺得就是你可能要問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].start |
12828.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].end |
12831.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].text |
在場的其他的提案人員他們的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].start |
12831.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].end |
12834.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].text |
因為今天有其他的委員要審身分法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].start |
12834.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].end |
12838.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].text |
然後其實具體真的是會有影響的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].start |
12838.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].end |
12840.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].text |
因為我們之前協調相關法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].start |
12840.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].end |
12845.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].text |
我們有講過我們大概118個法規命令或法律要做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].start |
12845.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].end |
12847.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].text |
那我們9月30號會回收 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].start |
12847.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].end |
12849.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].text |
那你希望得久 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].start |
12850.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].end |
12852.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].text |
你希望得久 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].start |
12854.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].end |
12856.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].text |
提案2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].start |
12856.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].end |
12858.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].text |
對提案2的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].start |
12858.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].end |
12860.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].text |
對你希望得久 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].start |
12861.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].end |
12863.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].text |
我上面寫兩個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].start |
12863.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].end |
12865.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].text |
你們剛剛我提的說你們沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].start |
12865.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].end |
12867.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].text |
所以現在是有意見是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].start |
12867.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].end |
12869.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].text |
我希望給我們多一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].start |
12869.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].end |
12871.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].text |
OK沒問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].start |
12871.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].end |
12873.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].text |
我覺得真的是要好好評估了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].start |
12873.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].end |
12875.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].text |
如果你們要負責任的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].start |
12875.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].end |
12880.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].text |
把12345我們盡可能考慮到想像到未來會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].start |
12880.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].end |
12883.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].text |
這樣子修法才是負責任的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].start |
12883.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].end |
12885.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].text |
好嗎謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].start |
12885.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].end |
12887.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].text |
你還會影響到選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].start |
12887.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].end |
12889.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].text |
議員的選舉代表的選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].start |
12890.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].end |
12894.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].text |
大家還記得嗎我們在修那個議員的選舉還代表選舉的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].start |
12894.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].end |
12897.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].text |
在這個地方我們就討論了好多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].start |
12897.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].end |
12900.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].text |
光是增加一席增加兩席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].start |
12900.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].end |
12902.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].text |
就會整個影響到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].start |
12902.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].end |
12904.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].text |
所以我認為大家還是要負責任的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].start |
12904.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].end |
12906.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].start |
12910.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].end |
12913.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].text |
好謝謝啦這個本來就應該尊重高經委員這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].start |
12913.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].end |
12916.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].text |
而且我覺得他提出這個臨時提案2的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].start |
12916.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].end |
12918.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].text |
本來也是要面對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].start |
12918.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].end |
12922.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].text |
只是說你要多少時間我們當然也希望不要拖太久 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].start |
12922.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].end |
12925.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].text |
就尊重委員會這邊那我們就同意三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].start |
12925.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].end |
12928.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].text |
之外呢我想要對臨時提案1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].start |
12928.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].end |
12930.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].text |
剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].start |
12930.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].end |
12932.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].text |
臨時提案1的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].start |
12932.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].end |
12934.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].text |
我想要給一點建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].start |
12934.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].end |
12936.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].text |
就是說好像跟我剛剛跟我質詢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].start |
12938.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].end |
12941.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].text |
好像這個想像相反的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].start |
12942.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].end |
12943.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].text |
文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].start |
12944.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].end |
12945.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].text |
活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].start |
12946.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].end |
12947.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].text |
內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].start |
12947.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].end |
12948.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].text |
成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].start |
12948.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].end |
12949.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].start |
12950.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].end |
12952.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].text |
甚至我是有期待的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].start |
12952.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].end |
12955.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].text |
那高經委員提出來要檢討的內容我覺得要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].start |
12955.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].end |
12957.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].text |
要檢討要檢討沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].start |
12957.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].end |
12959.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].text |
但是我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].start |
12959.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].end |
12964.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].text |
這個運動會跟推廣跟自播節目計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].start |
12965.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].end |
12966.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].text |
他應該是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].start |
12966.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].end |
12967.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].text |
啊主委回來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].start |
12969.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].end |
12970.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].text |
辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].start |
12970.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].end |
12973.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].text |
這應該是一個正面的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].start |
12973.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].end |
12976.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].text |
所以我們是不是可以主席容我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].start |
12976.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].end |
12978.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].text |
跟這個委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].start |
12978.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].end |
12981.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].text |
跟高經委我們一起來對這個臨時提案1的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].start |
12981.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].end |
12983.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].text |
我們來做一個討論好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].start |
12988.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].end |
12992.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].text |
剛剛委員會其實有針對臨時提案1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].start |
12992.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].end |
12995.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].text |
的第三個部分他已經有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].start |
12995.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].end |
12996.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].text |
有修正了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].start |
12997.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].end |
13000.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].text |
來來來過來休息討論一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].start |
13000.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].end |
13003.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].text |
主委還是那個其他委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].start |
13006.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].end |
13008.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].start |
13011.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].end |
13012.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].text |
對我來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].start |
13012.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].end |
13013.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].start |
13014.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].end |
13019.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].text |
我聽起來上次的詢答跟今天的詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].start |
13019.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].end |
13023.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].text |
很多的委員好像都很肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].start |
13023.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].end |
13027.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].text |
也希望有永續性未來性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].start |
13027.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].end |
13031.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].text |
那也願意在經費的分裂上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].start |
13031.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].end |
13033.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].text |
鼓勵原民會支持原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].start |
13033.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].end |
13037.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].text |
不過跟到這個臨時提案的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].start |
13037.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].end |
13039.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].text |
我其實對下面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].start |
13039.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].end |
13043.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].text |
以書面含附的部分1 2 3 4 5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].start |
13043.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].end |
13046.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].text |
我個人是覺得這個沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].start |
13046.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].end |
13050.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].text |
但是有希望是不是前面的那個文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].start |
13050.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].end |
13051.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].text |
能夠改一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].start |
13051.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].end |
13054.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].text |
就像剛才大家所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].start |
13054.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].end |
13056.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].text |
好像有點背離 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].start |
13056.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].end |
13058.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].text |
所以以我個人來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].start |
13058.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].end |
13059.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].text |
我所知道的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].start |
13060.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].end |
13063.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].text |
其實以這個海陸南島宇族航海計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].start |
13064.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].end |
13067.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].text |
這個我記得有好幾年前就開始協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].start |
13067.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].end |
13071.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].text |
各位了解經費的取得相當不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].start |
13071.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].end |
13073.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].text |
非常的不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].start |
13073.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].end |
13076.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].text |
所以才會拖這麼多年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].start |
13076.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].end |
13079.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].text |
甚至那個巴丹島的省長副省長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].start |
13079.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].end |
13081.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].text |
他們有來訪也關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].start |
13083.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].end |
13086.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].text |
那最後文化部有心給錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].start |
13086.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].end |
13089.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].text |
反而是原民會是最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].start |
13089.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].end |
13090.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].text |
因為我們想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].start |
13090.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].end |
13092.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].text |
這個是我們原住民的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].start |
13092.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].end |
13095.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].text |
人家文化部都已經願意支持了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].start |
13095.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].end |
13097.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].text |
那原民會不支持也不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].start |
13097.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].end |
13100.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].text |
所以我知道的是經費取得不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].start |
13100.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].end |
13102.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].text |
而且我也跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].start |
13102.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].end |
13104.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].text |
十個部會協調過兩次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].start |
13104.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].end |
13106.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].text |
因為航海 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].start |
13106.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].end |
13109.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].text |
其實要處理的問題非常的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].start |
13109.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].end |
13112.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].text |
所以我覺得下面那個要所資的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].start |
13112.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].end |
13114.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].text |
我覺得倒沒有什麼意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].start |
13114.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].end |
13117.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].text |
可是我覺得前面的那個文字敘述 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].start |
13117.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].end |
13121.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].text |
好像有一點不是那麼理想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].start |
13121.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].end |
13123.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].text |
所以我也是建議說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].start |
13123.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].end |
13125.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].text |
那就文字修正的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].start |
13125.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].end |
13126.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].text |
大家可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].start |
13126.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].end |
13127.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].text |
我服用那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].start |
13127.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].end |
13128.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].text |
我可以召我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].start |
13128.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].end |
13129.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].start |
13129.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].end |
13131.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].text |
我是必須要說清楚一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].start |
13131.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].end |
13133.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].text |
這個臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].start |
13133.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].end |
13135.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].text |
剛剛我們在質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].start |
13135.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].end |
13138.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].text |
原民會教人處處長講得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].start |
13138.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].end |
13139.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].text |
這兩個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].start |
13139.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].end |
13141.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].text |
原住民日跟航海日 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].start |
13141.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].end |
13147.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].text |
用的都是國家語言整體發展方案裡面的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].start |
13148.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].end |
13151.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].text |
當然原民會或原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].start |
13151.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].end |
13153.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].text |
你們想要辦任何一個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].start |
13153.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].end |
13155.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].text |
我們都全力支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].start |
13155.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].end |
13159.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].text |
但是你不能夠把A的錢放到B的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].start |
13159.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].end |
13162.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].text |
甚至於我還非常樂意支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].start |
13162.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].end |
13165.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].text |
以後全世界原住民的運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].start |
13165.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].end |
13168.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].text |
請原民會你就每年編公運算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].start |
13168.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].end |
13171.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].text |
然後其他的部會我們也幫你爭取預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].start |
13171.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].end |
13174.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].text |
讓他每年每年的來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].start |
13174.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].end |
13177.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].text |
而不是像現在你想到什麼要做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].start |
13177.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].end |
13179.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].text |
那陳玉哥吳立華有人說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].start |
13179.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].end |
13182.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].text |
111年文化部已經要給這筆錢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].start |
13182.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].end |
13186.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].text |
就表示已經很早以前在講這個事情了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].start |
13186.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].end |
13188.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].text |
為什麼要在115年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].start |
13188.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].end |
13194.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].text |
用國家語言整體方案的錢來命這些事情呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].start |
13194.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].end |
13196.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].text |
所以其實我不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].start |
13197.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].end |
13199.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].text |
不支持這兩個方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].start |
13199.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].end |
13200.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].text |
我都很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].start |
13200.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].end |
13205.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].text |
但是希望原民會回歸到你們的預算體制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].start |
13206.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].end |
13208.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].text |
國家語言整體發展方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].start |
13208.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].end |
13211.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].text |
其實我們都知道它是四年計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].start |
13212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].end |
13213.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].text |
處長是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].start |
13213.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].end |
13215.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].text |
每一年四年計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].start |
13215.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].end |
13217.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].text |
這四年計畫你們都要跟行政院報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].start |
13217.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].end |
13219.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].text |
還是它已經要結束了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].start |
13222.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].end |
13223.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].text |
對 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].start |
13223.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].end |
13225.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].text |
如果是這樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].start |
13225.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].end |
13227.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].text |
那你們能不能跟行政院開個會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].start |
13227.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].end |
13231.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].text |
以後這個所謂的這個海陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].start |
13231.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].end |
13234.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].text |
還有原住民的這個運動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].start |
13235.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].end |
13238.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].text |
希望行政院另外不再預算給你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].start |
13238.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].end |
13241.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].text |
而不要用這個主語的這個部分嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].start |
13241.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].end |
13243.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].text |
國家語言整體方案嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].start |
13243.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].end |
13246.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].text |
我覺得這是不對的 好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].start |
13247.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].end |
13249.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].text |
來 你們說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].start |
13250.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].end |
13251.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].text |
很好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].start |
13251.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].end |
13252.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].text |
那就很好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].start |
13252.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].end |
13256.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].text |
那就跟今天的臨時提案就沒有相衝突啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].start |
13257.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].end |
13260.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].text |
那就透過這個提案就行了不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].start |
13260.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].end |
13261.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].start |
13262.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].end |
13265.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].text |
今天早上坐在這裡到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].start |
13267.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].end |
13269.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].text |
我仔細再聽了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].start |
13269.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].end |
13271.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].text |
兩邊講法利好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].start |
13273.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].end |
13275.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].text |
我聽到林建錡委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].start |
13275.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].end |
13278.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].text |
說明以後我才知道說原來有這麼長的拖形 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].start |
13280.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].end |
13282.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].text |
我現在跟各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].start |
13283.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].end |
13285.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].text |
我們的祖先真的很偉大 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].start |
13286.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].end |
13288.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].text |
我看這個是英文的文獻 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].start |
13289.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].end |
13290.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].text |
這都不做可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].start |
13291.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].end |
13292.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].text |
還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].start |
13298.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].end |
13302.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].text |
我們300多年前的祖先要行行到萬丹 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].start |
13303.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].end |
13305.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].text |
他們躺在獨木桌上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].start |
13307.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].end |
13308.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].text |
靠他的背 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].start |
13309.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].end |
13310.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].text |
感覺海浪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].start |
13311.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].end |
13313.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].text |
他知道這個是順瀏海 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].start |
13313.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].end |
13318.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].text |
是牛坡還是濾流撞到海島再回來的坡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].start |
13319.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].end |
13323.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].text |
所以我們原文會太小看我們的祖先 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].start |
13323.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].end |
13325.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].text |
所以你貿然出海才會造成這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].start |
13327.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].end |
13330.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].text |
所以今天我客觀我第三檔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].start |
13332.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].end |
13333.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].text |
這個文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].start |
13334.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].end |
13337.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].text |
可能需要對原文會有所 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].start |
13339.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].end |
13340.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].text |
加油一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].start |
13340.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].end |
13342.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].text |
但是也不要過客 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].start |
13342.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].end |
13344.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].text |
因為我們太小看我們的祖先 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].start |
13346.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].end |
13347.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].start |
13348.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].end |
13350.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].text |
難道宇族從台灣到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].start |
13350.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].end |
13353.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].text |
剛才我第一個質詢那個麻豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].start |
13353.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].end |
13354.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].text |
那個麻豆就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].start |
13355.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].end |
13357.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].text |
難道宇族所共用的眼睛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].start |
13358.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].end |
13359.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].text |
如果行行到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].start |
13361.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].end |
13363.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].text |
那個自立外海的火地島 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].start |
13364.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].end |
13365.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].text |
那是用跳島的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].start |
13366.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].end |
13368.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].text |
而美軍在二次大戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].start |
13369.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].end |
13371.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].text |
就是用這個道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].start |
13372.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].end |
13374.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].text |
逆向回攻日本本土 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].start |
13375.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].end |
13379.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].text |
所以各位我們都要知道這些祖先的歷史跟智慧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].start |
13379.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].end |
13381.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].text |
所以我們今天兩邊坦白講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].start |
13381.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].end |
13383.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].text |
講的都有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].start |
13383.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].end |
13385.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].text |
我們用著裝的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].start |
13386.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].end |
13387.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].text |
著裝的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].start |
13391.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].end |
13393.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].text |
我不知道要改什麼文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].start |
13393.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].end |
13394.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].start |
13394.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].end |
13395.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].text |
你們總算會翻出來吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].start |
13395.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].end |
13397.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].text |
原文會主委都說OK啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].start |
13397.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].end |
13399.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].text |
所以請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].start |
13399.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].end |
13400.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].text |
星期 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].start |
13400.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].end |
13401.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].text |
星期一確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].start |
13401.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].end |
13402.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].text |
他們在台北溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].start |
13402.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].end |
13403.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].start |
13403.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].end |
13404.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].text |
主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].start |
13404.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].end |
13406.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].text |
臨時提案一 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].start |
13406.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].end |
13410.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].text |
大家看一下那些文字就是原文會修的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].start |
13411.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].end |
13413.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].text |
他們說沒有問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].start |
13413.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].end |
13417.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].text |
所以不知道現在在場的文字委員還有什麼意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].start |
13419.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].end |
13421.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].text |
對 那是他們修的 我OK啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].start |
13423.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].end |
13425.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].text |
來啦 主席 讓他們溝通一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].start |
13430.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].end |
13431.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].text |
哦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].start |
13437.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].end |
13438.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].start |
13440.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].end |
13441.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].text |
沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].start |
13441.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].end |
13443.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].text |
那個第一是全 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].start |
13443.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].end |
13444.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].text |
一是全原 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].start |
13444.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].end |
13446.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].text |
二是事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].start |
13446.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].end |
13449.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].text |
國家語言整體發展方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].start |
13449.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].end |
13451.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].text |
的確不是用在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].start |
13451.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].end |
13453.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].text |
好不好 不可以這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].start |
13453.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].end |
13455.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].text |
這個最重要就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].start |
13455.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].end |
13457.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].text |
語言的程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].start |
13457.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].end |
13458.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].text |
發展語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].start |
13458.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].end |
13459.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].text |
發展主語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].start |
13459.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].end |
13462.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].text |
而且現在我們有多少的主語老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].start |
13462.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].end |
13465.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].text |
或者是家庭的主語的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].start |
13465.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].end |
13467.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].text |
我們現在都還非常的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].start |
13468.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].end |
13471.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].text |
你不可以拿A的錢去做B的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].start |
13471.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].end |
13473.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].start |
13478.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].end |
13482.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].text |
主席 拜託主委去溝通一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].start |
13482.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].end |
13484.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].text |
很快啦 應該你們的重點就在於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].start |
13484.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].end |
13486.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].text |
最後一句話而已嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].start |
13487.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].end |
13489.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].text |
已有經費用戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].start |
13490.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].end |
13492.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].text |
偏離原定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].start |
13492.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].end |
13496.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].text |
對 它並不是在批評嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].start |
13497.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].end |
13499.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].text |
這並不是一個譴責的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].start |
13499.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].end |
13501.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].text |
類似譴責案這樣嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].start |
13501.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].end |
13503.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].text |
不是這樣的概念嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].start |
13504.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].end |
13505.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].start |
13506.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].end |
13509.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].text |
所以原民會覺得OK的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].start |
13509.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].end |
13511.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].text |
是不是就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].start |
13511.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].end |
13514.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].text |
就依照原本的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].start |
13514.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].end |
13516.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].text |
意見通過這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].start |
13519.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].end |
13520.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].text |
什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].start |
13523.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].end |
13524.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].start |
13524.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].end |
13526.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].text |
看到第一段我就覺得是不肯定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].start |
13526.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].end |
13528.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].start |
13528.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].end |
13530.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].text |
看到第一段我就覺得是不肯定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].start |
13530.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].end |
13532.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].start |
13532.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].end |
13534.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].text |
修了喔 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].start |
13534.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].end |
13536.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].text |
修了 修了 修了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].start |
13536.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].end |
13538.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].text |
修了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].start |
13538.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].end |
13540.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].text |
他是修上面那一句 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].start |
13541.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].end |
13543.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].text |
E.R.A.T |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].start |
13542.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].end |
13544.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].text |
對 說明關聯性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].start |
13544.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].end |
13546.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].text |
因為大家都覺得有關聯性啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].start |
13547.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].end |
13549.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].text |
因為這個族語推廣的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].start |
13549.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].end |
13551.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].text |
它會連結到很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].start |
13551.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].end |
13553.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].text |
接受嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].start |
13553 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].end |
13555 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].text |
對 好 我覺得OK吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].start |
13564.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].end |
13566.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].text |
將族語節目制播的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].start |
13566.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].end |
13568.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].text |
均應於族語的推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].start |
13569.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].end |
13571.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].text |
予以檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].start |
13571.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].end |
13573.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].text |
並說明其關聯性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].start |
13573.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].end |
13575.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].start |
13575.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].end |
13577.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].text |
那我覺得國家語言整體 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].start |
13577.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].end |
13579.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].text |
發展方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].start |
13579.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].end |
13581.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].text |
我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].start |
13581.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].end |
13583.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].text |
你下次不要再這樣的做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].start |
13583.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].end |
13585.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].text |
這兩件事情都非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].start |
13585.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].end |
13587.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].text |
請你們跟行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].start |
13587.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].end |
13589.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].text |
另外拿預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].start |
13589.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].end |
13591.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].text |
不要再族語上面的錢去用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].start |
13591.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].end |
13593.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].text |
好不好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].start |
13593.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].end |
13595.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].text |
我們給人家的也支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].start |
13595.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].end |
13597.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].text |
好 那就繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].start |
13597.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].end |
13599.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].text |
那議程就繼續囉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].start |
13599.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].end |
13601.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].text |
我們給人家也支持原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].start |
13601.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].end |
13603.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].text |
阿嬤要玩的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].start |
13603.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].end |
13605.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].text |
好 我要繼續囉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].start |
13605.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].end |
13607.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].start |
13608.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].end |
13610.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].text |
好 我們第一案及第二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].start |
13611.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].end |
13613.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].text |
照修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].start |
13615.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].end |
13617.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].text |
沒有 我們中午不休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].start |
13617.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].end |
13619.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].text |
繼續開會喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].start |
13619.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].end |
13621.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].text |
登記質詢委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].start |
13621.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].end |
13623.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].text |
除不在場者外其餘均已質詢完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].start |
13623.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].end |
13625.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].text |
委員訊答結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].start |
13625.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].end |
13627.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].text |
委員張志倫 徐興盈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].start |
13627.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].end |
13629.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].text |
所提書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].start |
13629.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].end |
13631.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].text |
書面質詢和未及答覆部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].start |
13631.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].end |
13633.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].text |
請相關單位於一周內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].start |
13633.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].end |
13635.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].text |
以書面答覆並複製本會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].start |
13642.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].end |
13644.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].text |
好 報告委員會 現在進行法案審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].start |
13644.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].end |
13646.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].text |
請宣讀討論事項所有條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].start |
13647.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].end |
13649.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].text |
修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].start |
13650.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].end |
13652.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].text |
請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].start |
13652.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].end |
13654.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].text |
整個過程大概十分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].start |
13654.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].end |
13656.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].text |
大家可以趁這段時間休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].start |
13656.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].end |
13658.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].start |
13658.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].end |
13660.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].text |
原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].start |
13660.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].end |
13662.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].text |
第一條 委員郭國文等十六人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].start |
13662.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].end |
13664.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].text |
修正違違認定原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].start |
13664.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].end |
13666.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].text |
保障原住民權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].start |
13666.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].end |
13668.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].text |
並依據憲法法庭110 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].start |
13669.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].end |
13671.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].text |
111年憲判自第17號判決主文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].start |
13671.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].end |
13673.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].text |
所揭示之意旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].start |
13673.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].end |
13675.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].text |
確認憲法徵修條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].start |
13675.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].end |
13677.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].text |
第十條第十一項及第十二項前段 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].start |
13677.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].end |
13679.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].text |
所保障是原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].start |
13679.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].end |
13681.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].text |
應包劃寄存於台灣之所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].start |
13681.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].end |
13683.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].text |
台灣南島與西民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].start |
13683.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].end |
13685.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].text |
第二條委員鄭天才 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].start |
13685.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].end |
13687.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].text |
等十八人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].start |
13687.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].end |
13689.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].text |
委員黃仁等十九人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].start |
13689.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].end |
13691.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].text |
刪除第二款末段 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].start |
13691.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].end |
13693.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].text |
並申請戶籍所在地 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].start |
13693.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].end |
13695.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].text |
鄉鎮市區公所登記為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].start |
13695.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].end |
13697.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].text |
平地原住民有案等文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].start |
13697.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].end |
13699.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].text |
第十八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].start |
13699.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].end |
13701.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].text |
委員吳立華等十八人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].start |
13701.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].end |
13703.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].text |
修正違違本法所稱原住民如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].start |
13703.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].end |
13705.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].text |
依山地行政區原住民依戶口調查部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].start |
13705.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].end |
13707.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].text |
原籍在山地行政區域內且本人或直系 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].start |
13707.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].end |
13709.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].text |
血清專清署 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].start |
13709.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].end |
13711.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].text |
以登錄為原住民者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].start |
13711.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].end |
13713.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].text |
二平地行政區原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].start |
13713.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].end |
13715.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].text |
依戶口調查部原籍在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].start |
13715.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].end |
13717.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].text |
平地行政區域內且本人或直系 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].start |
13717.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].end |
13719.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].text |
血清專清署以登錄為原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].start |
13719.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].end |
13721.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].text |
並經戶籍所在地 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].start |
13721.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].end |
13723.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].text |
鄉鎮市區公所完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].start |
13723.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].end |
13725.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].text |
平地行政區原住民身份的記者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].start |
13725.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].end |
13727.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].text |
三同屬南島羽系民族之其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].start |
13727.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].end |
13729.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].text |
台灣原住民族本人或直系血清專清署 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].start |
13729.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].end |
13731.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].text |
屬於原籍於相關行政區內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].start |
13731.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].end |
13733.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].text |
且依戶籍或其他客觀歷史記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].start |
13733.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].end |
13735.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].text |
可證明其屬南島羽系民族者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].start |
13735.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].end |
13737.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].text |
前項第三款所稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].start |
13737.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].end |
13739.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].text |
同屬南島羽系民族之其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].start |
13739.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].end |
13741.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].text |
台灣原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].start |
13741.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].end |
13743.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].text |
關於民族權利身份認定及相關政治 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].start |
13743.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].end |
13745.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].text |
參與資源保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].start |
13745.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].end |
13747.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].text |
另以法律定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].start |
13747.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].end |
13749.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].text |
並得以族群意願及歷史文化完整性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].start |
13749.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].end |
13751.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].text |
保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].start |
13755.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].end |
13757.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].text |
民族權利身份認定及相關政治 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].start |
13757.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].end |
13759.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].text |
主要是民族權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].start |
13759.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].end |
13761.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].start |
13761.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].end |
13763.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].start |
13763.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].end |
13765.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].start |
13765.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].end |
13767.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].start |
13767.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].end |
13769.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].start |
13769.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].end |
13771.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].start |
13771.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].end |
13773.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].start |
13773.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].end |
13775.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].start |
13775.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].end |
13777.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].start |
13777.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].end |
13779.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].start |
13779.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].end |
13781.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].start |
13781.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].end |
13783.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].start |
13783.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].end |
13785.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].start |
13785.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].end |
13787.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].start |
13787.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].end |
13789.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].start |
13789.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].end |
13791.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].start |
13791.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].end |
13793.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].start |
13793.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].end |
13795.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].start |
13795.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].end |
13797.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].start |
13797.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].end |
13799.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].start |
13799.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].end |
13801.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].start |
13801.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].end |
13803.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].start |
13803.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].end |
13805.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].start |
13805.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].end |
13807.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].start |
13807.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].end |
13809.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].start |
13809.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].end |
13811.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].text |
民族權利是否有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].start |
13793.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].end |
13795.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].text |
平埔原住民個人權利的一階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].start |
13795.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].end |
13797.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].text |
適用部分未能及時適用者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].start |
13797.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].end |
13799.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].text |
因此本法施行後一年內完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].start |
13799.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].end |
13801.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].text |
修法,預期未完成者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].start |
13801.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].end |
13803.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].text |
直接適用現行原住民相關法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].start |
13803.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].end |
13805.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].text |
第三條委員武力化等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].start |
13805.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].end |
13807.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].text |
18人提案,增訂第一項第四款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].start |
13807.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].end |
13809.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].text |
四,據前條同屬難道與 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].start |
13809.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].end |
13811.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].text |
姓民族之其他台灣原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].start |
13811.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].end |
13813.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].text |
身份要件事實者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].start |
13813.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].end |
13815.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].text |
其本人及直系血親 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].start |
13815.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].end |
13817.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].text |
專親屬,取用所屬原住民族之傳統名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].start |
13817.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].end |
13819.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].text |
或取用漢人姓名 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].start |
13819.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].end |
13821.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].text |
並與原住民族文字並列 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].start |
13821.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].end |
13823.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].text |
所屬原住民族之姓名 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].start |
13823.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].end |
13825.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].text |
該姓名得以與原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].start |
13825.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].end |
13827.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].text |
姓名文化沿用或創置 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].start |
13827.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].end |
13829.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].text |
其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].start |
13829.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].end |
13831.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].text |
委員郭國文等16人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].start |
13831.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].end |
13833.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].text |
增訂第一項第四款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].start |
13833.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].end |
13835.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].text |
四,據本法第二條平埔原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].start |
13835.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].end |
13837.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].text |
身份要件事實者,其本人及直系血親 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].start |
13837.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].end |
13839.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].text |
專親屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].start |
13841.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].end |
13843.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].text |
及其直系血親被親屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].start |
13843.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].end |
13845.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].text |
取用所屬原住民族之傳統名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].start |
13845.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].end |
13847.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].text |
或取用漢人姓名 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].start |
13847.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].end |
13849.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].text |
並與原住民族文字並列 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].start |
13849.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].end |
13851.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].text |
其所屬原住民族之姓名 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].start |
13851.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].end |
13853.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].text |
該姓名得以與原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].start |
13853.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].end |
13855.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].text |
姓名文化沿用或創置 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].start |
13855.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].end |
13857.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].text |
其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].start |
13857.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].end |
13859.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].text |
四,委員郭國文等16人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].start |
13859.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].end |
13861.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].text |
本條內容未修正,委員盧憲一等17人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].start |
13861.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].end |
13863.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].text |
第一項續文修正為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].start |
13863.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].end |
13865.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].text |
非原住民,精無子女,前後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].start |
13865.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].end |
13867.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].text |
且婚後三年未能自然受孕 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].start |
13867.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].end |
13869.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].text |
或經醫療機構診斷為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].start |
13869.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].end |
13871.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].text |
補孕之原住民雙親共同收養 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].start |
13871.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].end |
13873.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].text |
且符合下列各款規定者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].start |
13873.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].end |
13875.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].text |
取得原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].start |
13875.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].end |
13877.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].text |
第二項刪除需年滿40歲之文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].start |
13877.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].end |
13879.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].text |
其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].start |
13879.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].end |
13881.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].text |
第五條委員伍立華等18人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].start |
13881.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].end |
13883.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].text |
委員郭國文等16人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].start |
13883.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].end |
13885.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].text |
刪除第一項第四款及第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].start |
13885.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].end |
13887.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].text |
其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].start |
13887.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].end |
13889.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].text |
委員陳瑩等16人提案增訂第四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].start |
13889.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].end |
13891.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].text |
依第一項第四款規定上失原住民身份者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].start |
13891.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].end |
13893.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].text |
至本法圈年全月圈日 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].start |
13893.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].end |
13895.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].text |
修正施行後原住民身份不上失 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].start |
13895.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].end |
13897.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].text |
其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].start |
13897.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].end |
13899.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].text |
第六條委員郭國文等16人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].start |
13899.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].end |
13901.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].text |
第一項刪除或 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].start |
13901.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].end |
13903.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].text |
從居原住民身份之父或母之姓等文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].start |
13903.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].end |
13905.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].text |
另刪除第三項其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].start |
13905.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].end |
13907.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].text |
第七條委員伍立華等18人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].start |
13907.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].end |
13909.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].text |
委員郭國文等16人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].start |
13909.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].end |
13911.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].text |
刪除第七條委員曾天才等20人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].start |
13911.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].end |
13913.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].text |
委員黃仁等18人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].start |
13913.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].end |
13915.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].text |
將第七條末段子女修正為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].start |
13915.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].end |
13917.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].text |
慈禧血親悲青鼠其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].start |
13917.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].end |
13919.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].text |
委員伍立華等18人提案增訂第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].start |
13919.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].end |
13921.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].text |
得以第三條第一項規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].start |
13921.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].end |
13923.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].text |
申請取用或以原住民族文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].start |
13923.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].end |
13925.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].text |
並列為自然的申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].start |
13925.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].end |
13927.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].text |
或以原住民族文字並列 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].start |
13927.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].end |
13929.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].text |
原住民族傳統名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].start |
13929.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].end |
13933.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].text |
或從居原住民身份之父或母之姓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].start |
13933.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].end |
13935.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].text |
而取得原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].start |
13935.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].end |
13937.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].text |
於本法中華民國全年全月全日 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].start |
13937.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].end |
13939.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].text |
修正施行前死亡者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].start |
13939.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].end |
13941.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].text |
其子女准用第三條及前條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].start |
13941.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].end |
13943.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].text |
取用原住民族傳統名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].start |
13943.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].end |
13945.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].text |
取得原住民身份及餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].start |
13945.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].end |
13947.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].text |
第八條委員伍立華等18人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].start |
13947.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].end |
13949.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].text |
第一項修正為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].start |
13949.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].end |
13951.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].text |
3D行政區原住民與 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].start |
13950.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].end |
13952.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].text |
平地行政區原住民結婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].start |
13952.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].end |
13954.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].text |
得以約定變更為相同之 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].start |
13954.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].end |
13956.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].text |
3D行政區原住民或平地行政區原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].start |
13956.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].end |
13958.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].text |
其子女之身份重之 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].start |
13958.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].end |
13960.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].text |
第二項末段修正為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].start |
13960.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].end |
13962.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].text |
取得3D行政區原住民或平地行政區原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].start |
13962.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].end |
13964.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].text |
其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].start |
13964.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].end |
13966.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].text |
其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].start |
13966.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].end |
13968.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].text |
其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].start |
13968.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].end |
13970.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].text |
委員郭國文等16人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].start |
13970.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].end |
13972.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].text |
應刪除現行條文第7條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].start |
13972.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].end |
13974.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].text |
現行條文第8條至第12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].start |
13974.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].end |
13976.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].text |
條次變更為第7條至第11條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].start |
13976.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].end |
13978.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].text |
條次變更為第7條至第11條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].start |
13978.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].end |
13980.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].text |
第7條內容修正為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].start |
13980.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].end |
13982.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].text |
3D原住民平地原住民與平埔原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].start |
13982.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].end |
13984.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].text |
跨身份結婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].start |
13984.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].end |
13986.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].text |
得以約定變更為相同之原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].start |
13986.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].end |
13988.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].text |
其子女之身份重之 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].start |
13988.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].end |
13990.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].text |
位議前項約定變更為相同原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].start |
13990.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].end |
13992.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].text |
者其子女與未成年時的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].start |
13992.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].end |
13994.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].text |
有法定代理人協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].start |
13994.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].end |
13996.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].text |
選定其原住民身份成年後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].start |
13996.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].end |
13998.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].text |
得以其個人意願選擇取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].start |
13998.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].end |
14000.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].text |
3D原住民平地原住民或平埔原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].start |
14004.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].end |
14006.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].text |
第11條委員林怡錦等22人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].start |
14006.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].end |
14008.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].text |
第一項末段修正為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].start |
14008.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].end |
14010.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].text |
或由當事人相互證事務所申請查明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].start |
14010.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].end |
14012.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].text |
並為撤銷或更正的登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].start |
14012.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].end |
14014.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].text |
刪除戶籍所在地等文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].start |
14014.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].end |
14016.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].text |
增訂第二項 經中央主管機關公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].start |
14016.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].end |
14018.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].text |
承認至原住民族群族人及其直系 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].start |
14018.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].end |
14020.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].text |
血清飛行署因政府限定登記期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].start |
14020.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].end |
14022.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].text |
或其他歷史因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].start |
14022.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].end |
14024.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].text |
至漏位登記為原住民身份者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].start |
14024.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].end |
14026.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].text |
得檢去相關證明文件相互證事務所 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].start |
14026.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].end |
14028.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].text |
申請查明並為更正這登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].start |
14028.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].end |
14030.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].text |
已取得原住民身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].start |
14030.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].end |
14032.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].text |
其餘同現行條文委員高金蘇梅等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].start |
14034.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].end |
14036.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].text |
第1條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].start |
14038.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].end |
14040.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].text |
原住民身份法第2條修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].start |
14040.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].end |
14042.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].text |
第2條本法所稱原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].start |
14042.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].end |
14044.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].text |
包含3D原住民及平地原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].start |
14044.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].end |
14046.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].text |
其身份之認定除本法另有規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].start |
14046.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].end |
14048.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].text |
外溢下列規定 |
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14048.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].end |
14050.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].text |
1.3D原住民台灣光復前原籍在3D行政區域內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].start |
14050.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].end |
14052.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].text |
且日日時期戶口調查部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].start |
14052.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].end |
14054.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].text |
登記其本人或直系血清尊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].start |
14054.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].end |
14056.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].text |
金屬屬於深深番戶高砂族的2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].start |
14056.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].end |
14058.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].text |
平地原住民台灣光復前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].start |
14058.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].end |
14060.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].text |
原籍在平地行政區域內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].start |
14060.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].end |
14062.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].text |
且日日時期戶口調查部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].start |
14062.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].end |
14064.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].text |
登記其本人或直系血清尊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].start |
14064.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].end |
14066.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].text |
金屬屬於深深番媒獲高砂族者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].start |
14066.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].end |
14068.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].text |
但於台灣省政府辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].start |
14068.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].end |
14070.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].text |
平地山包登記期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].start |
14070.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].end |
14072.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].text |
向鄉鎮市區公所申請登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].start |
14072.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].end |
14074.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].text |
有案者易屬之 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].start |
14074.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].end |
14076.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].text |
提案人王宏威等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].start |
14077.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].end |
14079.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].text |
原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].start |
14079.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].end |
14081.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].text |
第二條,委員伍利華等17人提案第一款增列 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].start |
14081.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].end |
14083.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].text |
薩奇拉雅族、賽德克族 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].start |
14084.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].end |
14086.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].text |
拉阿魯瓦族、卡納卡納婦族 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].start |
14086.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].end |
14088.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].text |
其餘同線性條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].start |
14088.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].end |
14090.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].text |
委員林一錦等18人提案第一款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].start |
14090.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].end |
14092.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].text |
修正委員住民族系子所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].start |
14092.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].end |
14094.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].text |
寄存於台灣而為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].start |
14093.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].end |
14095.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].text |
而為國家管轄內資傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].start |
14095.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].end |
14097.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].text |
台灣南島語系民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].start |
14097.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].end |
14099.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].text |
包括所有一元住民身份法及平埔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].start |
14099.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].end |
14101.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].text |
原住民族群身份法取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].start |
14101.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].end |
14103.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].text |
身份之民族及其成員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].start |
14103.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].end |
14105.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].text |
及其他自認為原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].start |
14105.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].end |
14107.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].text |
並經中央原住民族主管機關報請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].start |
14107.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].end |
14109.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].text |
實行任何定制民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].start |
14109.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].end |
14111.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].text |
其餘同線性條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].start |
14111.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].end |
14113.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].text |
增訂第二條至二 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].start |
14113.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].end |
14115.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].text |
委員吳立華等17人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].start |
14115.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].end |
14117.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].text |
訂定8月1日為原住民族日以彰顯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].start |
14117.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].end |
14119.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].text |
原住民族正名之歷史意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].start |
14119.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].end |
14121.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].text |
尊重原住民族地位與權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].start |
14121.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].end |
14123.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].text |
促進各族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].start |
14124.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].end |
14126.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].text |
認識原住民族文化價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].start |
14126.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].end |
14128.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].text |
第八條委員吳立華等17人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].start |
14128.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].end |
14130.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].text |
第一項修正委直轄市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].start |
14130.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].end |
14132.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].text |
轄有原住民族地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].start |
14132.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].end |
14134.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].text |
之縣及原住民社集人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].start |
14134.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].end |
14136.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].text |
達1500人以上之縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].start |
14136.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].end |
14138.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].text |
其支加市縣政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].start |
14138.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].end |
14140.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].text |
應設原住民族專責機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].start |
14140.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].end |
14142.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].text |
辦理原住民族事務其餘之 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].start |
14142.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].end |
14144.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].text |
縣市政府的是實際需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].start |
14144.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].end |
14146.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].text |
設原住民族專責單位或專制人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].start |
14147.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].end |
14149.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].text |
辦理原住民族事務其餘同縣行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].start |
14150.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].end |
14152.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].text |
第十四條委員吳立華等17人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].start |
14152.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].end |
14154.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].text |
增列第二項政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].start |
14154.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].end |
14156.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].text |
應促進原住民數位平權 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].start |
14156.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].end |
14158.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].text |
支持原住民提升科技素養 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].start |
14158.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].end |
14160.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].text |
培育科技領域人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].start |
14160.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].end |
14162.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].text |
促進原住民享有學習新興科技機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].start |
14162.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].end |
14164.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].text |
並鼓勵原住民善用前瞻科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].start |
14164.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].end |
14166.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].text |
以創造社會福祉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].start |
14166.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].end |
14168.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].text |
其餘同縣行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].start |
14168.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].end |
14170.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].text |
第十九條委員吳立華等17人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].start |
14170.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].end |
14172.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].text |
第一項序文前段新增知土地基 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].start |
14173.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].end |
14175.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].text |
核川第一項第三款新增漂流母 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].start |
14175.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].end |
14177.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].text |
其餘同縣行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].start |
14177.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].end |
14179.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].text |
第21條委員吳立華等17人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].start |
14179.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].end |
14181.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].text |
第一項及第四項刪除公有二字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].start |
14181.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].end |
14183.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].text |
第四項二段修正為所生之損失 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].start |
14183.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].end |
14185.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].text |
補償等事項另以法律定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].start |
14185.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].end |
14187.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].text |
其餘同縣行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].start |
14187.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].end |
14189.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].text |
委員吳立華等21人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].start |
14189.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].end |
14191.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].text |
第一項修正為政府或私人餘原住民族土地內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].start |
14191.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].end |
14193.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].text |
從事土地開發資源利用生態保育及學術研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].start |
14195.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].end |
14201.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].text |
因諮商並取得原住民族或部落同意或參與原住民的分享相關利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].start |
14201.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].end |
14205.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].text |
第四項刪除或部落及周邊一定範圍內之公有土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].start |
14205.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].end |
14209.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].text |
增訂第五項前項提案經部落否決者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].start |
14209.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].end |
14211.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].text |
次該否決之日其兩年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].start |
14211.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].end |
14213.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].text |
不得就該事項重新提出其餘同縣行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].start |
14213.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].end |
14217.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].text |
增訂第21條之一委員吳立華等21人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].start |
14217.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].end |
14221.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].text |
以強暴脅迫或其他非法方法妨礙他人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].start |
14221.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].end |
14223.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].text |
為諮商取得原住民族部落同意之提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].start |
14223.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].end |
14227.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].text |
撤回提案連署或投票或使他認為投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].start |
14228.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].end |
14232.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].text |
第五項刪除或部落及周邊一定範圍內之公有土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].start |
14232.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].end |
14236.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].text |
增訂第21條之二委員吳立華等21人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].start |
14236.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].end |
14240.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].text |
自原住民鄉鎮市區公所發布諮商取得原住民族部落同意之投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].start |
14240.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].end |
14244.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].text |
按投票公告日起對於有投票權之人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].start |
14248.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].end |
14252.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].text |
行求契約或交付賄賂或其他不正利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].start |
14252.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].end |
14256.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].text |
而約其不行使投票權或為一定之行使者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].start |
14256.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].end |
14258.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].text |
處一年以上七年以下有期徒刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].start |
14258.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].end |
14262.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].text |
得併科新台幣六十萬元以上六百萬元以下罰金 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].start |
14262.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].end |
14264.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].text |
預備犯前項之罪者處一年以下有期徒刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].start |
14264.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].end |
14268.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].text |
預備或用以行求契約或交付之賄賂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].start |
14268.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].end |
14270.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].text |
不問屬於犯人與否沒收之 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].start |
14270.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].end |
14274.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].text |
如權訴或一部不能沒收時追徵其價額 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].start |
14274.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].end |
14278.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].text |
犯第一項或第二項之罪與犯罪後六個月內自首者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].start |
14278.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].end |
14284.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].text |
減輕或免除其刑因而查獲提案人為共犯者免除其刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].start |
14284.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].end |
14288.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].text |
犯第一項或第二項之罪在偵查中自白者減輕其刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].start |
14288.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].end |
14292.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].text |
因而查獲提案人為共犯者減輕或免除其刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].start |
14292.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].end |
14294.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].start |
14301.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].end |
14303.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].text |
宣讀完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].start |
14303.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].end |
14304.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].start |
14305.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].end |
14307.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].start |
14309.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].end |
14310.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].start |
14312.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].end |
14313.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].text |
不是問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].start |
14313.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].end |
14315.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].text |
因為是我的提案的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].start |
14323.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].end |
14325.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].text |
主委主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].start |
14331.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].end |
14333.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].text |
現在進行協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].start |
14338.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].end |
14340.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].text |
不是因為地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].start |
14340.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].end |
14342.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].text |
他的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].start |
14342.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].end |
14343.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].text |
對地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].start |
14343.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].end |
14345.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].text |
他本來就沒有挑文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].start |
14345.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].end |
14348.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].text |
但是他是在說明來說還有三數 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].start |
14348.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].end |
14351.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].text |
所以我們這層面的不會有他的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].start |
14351.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].end |
14353.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].text |
就這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].start |
14353.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].end |
14355.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].text |
為力協商順利 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].start |
14355.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].end |
14357.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].text |
我們先休息三分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].start |
14357.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].end |
14358.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].text |
大家溝通一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].start |
14359.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].end |
14360.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].start |
14361.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].end |
14362.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].text |
來啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].start |
14362.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].end |
14363.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].text |
好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].start |
14363.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].end |
14364.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].text |
不要天天問了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].start |
14364.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].end |
14365.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].text |
趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].start |
14367.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].end |
14368.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].text |
好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].start |
14462.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].end |
14463.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].start |
14463.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].end |
14464.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].start |
14464.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].end |
14465.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].start |
14465.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].end |
14466.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].start |
14466.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].end |
14467.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].start |
14467.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].end |
14468.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].start |
14468.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].end |
14469.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].start |
14469.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].end |
14470.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].start |
14470.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].end |
14471.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].start |
14471.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].end |
14472.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].start |
14472.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].end |
14473.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].start |
14473.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].end |
14474.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].start |
14474.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].end |
14475.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].start |
14475.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].end |
14476.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].start |
14476.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].end |
14477.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].start |
14477.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].end |
14478.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].start |
14478.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].end |
14479.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].start |
14479.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].end |
14480.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].start |
14480.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].end |
14481.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].start |
14481.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].end |
14482.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].start |
14482.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].end |
14483.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].start |
14483.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].end |
14484.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].start |
14484.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].end |
14485.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].start |
14485.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].end |
14486.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].start |
14486.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].end |
14487.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].start |
14487.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].end |
14488.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].start |
14488.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].end |
14489.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].start |
14489.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].end |
14490.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].start |
14481.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].end |
14482.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].start |
14482.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].end |
14483.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].start |
14483.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].end |
14485.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].text |
主委的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].start |
14487.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].end |
14488.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].text |
這裡面有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].start |
14488.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].end |
14489.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].text |
當地人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].start |
14489.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].end |
14490.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].start |
14490.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].end |
14491.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].start |
14491.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].end |
14492.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].start |
14492.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].end |
14493.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].start |
14493.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].end |
14494.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].start |
14494.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].end |
14495.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].start |
14495.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].end |
14496.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].start |
14496.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].end |
14497.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].start |
14497.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].end |
14498.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].start |
14498.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].end |
14499.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].start |
14499.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].end |
14500.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].start |
14500.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].end |
14501.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].start |
14501.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].end |
14502.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].start |
14502.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].end |
14503.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].start |
14503.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].end |
14504.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].start |
14504.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].end |
14505.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].start |
14505.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].end |
14506.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].start |
14506.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].end |
14507.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].start |
14507.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].end |
14508.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].start |
14508.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].end |
14509.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].start |
14509.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].end |
14510.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].start |
14510.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].end |
14511.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].start |
14511.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].end |
14512.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].start |
14512.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].end |
14513.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].start |
14513.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].end |
14514.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].start |
14514.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].end |
14515.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].start |
14515.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].end |
14516.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].start |
14499.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].end |
14500.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].text |
在紐西亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].start |
14542.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].end |
14543.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].text |
現在就先拔了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].start |
14544.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].end |
14545.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].text |
就直接先 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].start |
14545.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].end |
14546.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].text |
先拔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].start |
14546.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].end |
14547.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].start |
14557.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].end |
14558.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].start |
14560.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].end |
14561.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].start |
14579.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].end |
14580.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].start |
14585.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].end |
14586.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].start |
14591.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].end |
14593.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].text |
好 我們現在繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].start |
14593.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].end |
14597.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].text |
有關原住民身份法的草案修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].start |
14597.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].end |
14598.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].text |
大家有什麼意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].start |
14600.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].end |
14602.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].text |
來 請那個紅綠委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].start |
14613.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].end |
14614.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].start |
14614.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].end |
14615.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].text |
各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].start |
14615.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].end |
14618.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].text |
我覺得原住民族身份法這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].start |
14618.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].end |
14621.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].text |
有一段時間當然也不能拖 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].start |
14621.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].end |
14623.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].text |
不過我們今天這個法案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].start |
14623.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].end |
14626.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].text |
有關平埔族的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].start |
14626.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].end |
14629.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].text |
其實已經另有法令了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].start |
14629.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].end |
14632.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].text |
我們今天是不是我們先處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].start |
14632.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].end |
14635.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].text |
把有關平埔族的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].start |
14635.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].end |
14637.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].text |
我們就不予處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].start |
14637.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].end |
14638.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].text |
把它確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].start |
14638.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].end |
14640.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].text |
不予處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].start |
14640.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].end |
14641.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].text |
那另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].start |
14641.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].end |
14643.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].text |
因為把它不予處理之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].start |
14643.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].end |
14645.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].text |
可能有些法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].start |
14645.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].end |
14647.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].text |
還有條次什麼都要變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].start |
14647.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].end |
14648.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].text |
都要那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].start |
14648.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].end |
14650.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].text |
我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].start |
14652.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].end |
14655.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].text |
原民會能夠在開議的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].start |
14655.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].end |
14657.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].text |
下會期開議的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].start |
14657.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].end |
14660.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].text |
把你們所有的這個重新整理好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].start |
14660.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].end |
14662.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].text |
然後給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].start |
14662.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].end |
14663.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].text |
重新送來給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].start |
14663.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].end |
14666.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].text |
然後我們下會期一開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].start |
14666.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].end |
14668.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].text |
我們就可以馬上處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].start |
14669.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].end |
14671.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].text |
這樣子我徵求大家的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].start |
14671.13 |
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這樣子我們內政委員會可以馬上處理 |
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不知道好不好 |
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確認 |
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什麼先去的 |
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對對對 |
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也不用確認 |
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就是我如果這個大家都同意的話 |
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我們就做這個決議了 |
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就另期再審了 |
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就是下會期前他們一定要把那個 |
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修正好的來給我們 |
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然後我們下會期就馬上就審了 |
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這樣才能節省時間 |
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今天也不會拖太久 |
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我覺得如果大家同意的話 |
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主席你就這樣宣布的話 |
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我們就這樣處理了 |
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我要確認有沒有委員想要 |
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14710.99 |
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做比較廣泛的發言 |
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還是就照剛剛紅路委員講的 |
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我們另擇期 |
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處理 |
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14719.24 |
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我補充了 |
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補充這個紅路委員 |
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14723.24 |
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謝謝紅路委員 |
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我補充就是說這個 |
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14728.03 |
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哪些條文是屬於 |
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14731.31 |
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跟平埔有關的 |
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那因為已經有另外一個法律了 |
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就不予處理 |
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就跟紅路剛剛講的 |
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謝謝大家 |
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14740.52 |
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就是說 |
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其他的 |
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跟平埔無關的 |
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但是是要修 |
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14746.65 |
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現在的原住民生活法的部分 |
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那個需要怎麼樣去做 |
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修正的文字 |
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14754.16 |
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就按照剛才紅路講的 |
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9月1號以前 |
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把修正的文字 |
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14760.16 |
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先檢視好 |
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下次開會的時候 |
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這樣會比較順利 |
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這個意思嗎 |
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好,那還有委員要發言嗎 |
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沒有 |
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沒有,好,那我們的這個協商共識 |
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就是原住民生命法的部分 |
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那就請原民會 |
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9月之前把你們的方案 |
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提出來跟委員討論 |
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我們就下個會期儘快 |
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繼續審查 |
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那第二個部分 |
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原住民族 |
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基本法的部分 |
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是不是也是 |
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再跟委員多多討論 |
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然後軍令定期 |
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繼續審查這樣 |
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好,那我就回去宣讀 |
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好,謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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好啦 |
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好,做一下決議 |
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討論事項所列議案 |
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軍令定期繼續審查 |
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本次會議到此結束,現在上會 |
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謝謝 |
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拜拜 |
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