| IVOD_ID |
17627 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17627 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-36-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第27次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
27 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第27次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-29T08:35:54+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-29T10:59:59+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
02:24:05 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/8d241381c4f8c7fca76b52104d1e2e9c6b50cf8b0353527fb5b204f4a37948b992f49b5ed3951a5e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第27次全體委員會議（事由：一、繼續併案審查
（一）行政院函請審議「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員羅智強等23人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員羅廷瑋等18人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（四）委員許宇甄等25人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（五）委員林淑芬等19人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（六）委員羅美玲等16人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（七）委員張雅琳等16人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（八）委員陳培瑜等18人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（九）委員鍾佳濱等20人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（十）委員林月琴等19人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（十一）委員廖偉翔等16人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（十二）委員伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe等16人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（十三）委員謝龍介等18人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（十四）委員徐富癸等17人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（十五）委員林宜瑾等24人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（十六）委員吳思瑤等16人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條條文修正草案」案。
（十七）委員林倩綺等20人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（十八）委員吳沛憶等20人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（十九）委員賴惠員等17人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（二十）委員吳琪銘等16人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（二十一）委員郭昱晴等16人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（二十二）委員許智傑等23人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
（二十三）委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「毒品危害防制條例第三十三條、第三十三條之一及第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
【第（二十）、（二十一）案如經院會復議，則不予審查；第（二十二）案各黨團若未提出不復議同意書，則不予審查】
二、繼續審查考試院函請審議「公務人員考績法修正草案」案。
【7月29日及30日兩天一次會】） |
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陳委員昭姿 |
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SPEAKER_06 |
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莊委員瑞雄 |
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SPEAKER_06 |
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SPEAKER_02 |
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陳委員昭姿 |
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SPEAKER_06 |
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SPEAKER_02 |
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陳委員昭姿 |
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SPEAKER_06 |
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莊委員瑞雄 |
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莊委員瑞雄 |
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陳委員昭姿 |
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SPEAKER_06 |
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莊委員瑞雄 |
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SPEAKER_02 |
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陳委員昭姿 |
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SPEAKER_06 |
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莊委員瑞雄 |
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SPEAKER_06 |
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莊委員瑞雄 |
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SPEAKER_06 |
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SPEAKER_06 |
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莊委員瑞雄 |
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SPEAKER_02 |
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陳委員昭姿 |
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8595.95346875 |
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SPEAKER_06 |
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莊委員瑞雄 |
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SPEAKER_12 |
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翁委員曉玲 |
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SPEAKER_06 |
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莊委員瑞雄 |
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SPEAKER_06 |
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莊委員瑞雄 |
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SPEAKER_12 |
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翁委員曉玲 |
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8653.10909375 |
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SPEAKER_12 |
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翁委員曉玲 |
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8653.22721875 |
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0.982 |
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SPEAKER_12 |
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翁委員曉玲 |
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8656.34909375 |
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0.982 |
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SPEAKER_04 |
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8661.41159375 |
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8663.79096875 |
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SPEAKER_04 |
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8668.78596875 |
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8670.10221875 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].start |
1463.31 |
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1464.47 |
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早知道你還沒簽名 |
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1468.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].end |
1469.35 |
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你太重要了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].start |
1469.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
1470.87 |
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不然你沒辦法開會 |
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1489.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
1489.91 |
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報告委員會 |
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1489.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
1491.11 |
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初期委員五人 |
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1491.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
1492.27 |
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已足法定人數 |
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1492.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
1493.63 |
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請主席宣布開會 |
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1494.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
1495.29 |
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我們現在開會 |
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1495.29 |
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1496.17 |
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進行報告事項 |
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1496.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
1498.25 |
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宣讀上次會議的議事錄 |
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1525.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
1526.89 |
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法務部部長鄭明謙等人 |
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1526.89 |
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1528.61 |
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主席翁昭琪委員小林 |
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1528.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
1530.09 |
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7月22日報告事項 |
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1530.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
1531.37 |
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宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
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1531.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
1533.09 |
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決定討論事項 |
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1533.09 |
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1534.29 |
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並按審查行政院 |
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1534.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
1535.69 |
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司法院和經審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
1535.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
1536.41 |
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中華民國刑法 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
1536.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
1537.81 |
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第185條之三條文 |
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1537.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
1539.45 |
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修正草案等56案 |
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1539.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
1540.49 |
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本日會議由委員 |
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1540.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
1542.33 |
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陳肇志等11人提出質詢 |
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1542.33 |
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1543.45 |
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委員蔡其昌等4人 |
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1543.45 |
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1544.73 |
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提出書面質詢 |
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1544.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
1546.25 |
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決議以報告期詢答完畢 |
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1546.25 |
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1547.53 |
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進行逐調審查 |
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1547.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
1548.81 |
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第185條之三 |
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1548.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
1550.13 |
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保留送院會處理 |
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1550.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
1551.37 |
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第185條之四 |
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1551.37 |
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1551.85 |
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不予修正 |
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1551.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
1553.05 |
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維持現行條文 |
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1554.25 |
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1555.57 |
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訂定第180條之五 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
1555.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
1556.53 |
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不予增訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
1556.53 |
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1557.33 |
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本案審查完畢 |
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1557.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
1558.13 |
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擬具審查報告 |
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1558.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
1559.25 |
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提請院會公決 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
1559.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
1560.57 |
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需加由黨團協商 |
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1560.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
1561.29 |
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院會討論時 |
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1561.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
1562.61 |
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由翁昭琪委員小林 |
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1562.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
1563.57 |
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出席說明 |
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1563.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1564.93 |
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調次引述條文部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
1564.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
1566.61 |
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文字及法字用字用語 |
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1566.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1568.33 |
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授權主席及醫事人員整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
1568.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
1569.17 |
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委員質詢時 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1569.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1570.33 |
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要求提供相關資料會 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
1570.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
1571.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
署名答覆者 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1571.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1572.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
請相關機關盡速 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
1572.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1574.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
鬆掉個別委員基本會 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
1574.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1575.89 |
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7月23日報告事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
1575.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1577.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
邀請法務部部長等 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
1577.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1579.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
就中聯治癌有事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
1579.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1580.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
徵辦調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
1581.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1582.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
消費者權益及食安監管 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1582.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
1584.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
進行專題報告並備質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
1584.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
1585.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
邀請監察院秘書長等 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
1585.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
1587.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
就現行公職員 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
1587.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1588.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
立衝突回避 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
1588.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
1589.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
暨立職公務員宣傳門 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
1589.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1590.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
機制及執行成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
1590.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1591.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
與法治決事 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
1591.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1592.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
進行詳談報告並備質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
1592.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1593.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
本日會議有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
1593.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1595.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
吳宗憲等12人提出質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
1595.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1596.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
委員林佩祥等7人 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
1596.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1598.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
提出書面質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
1598.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1599.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
決定報告期詢來完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1599.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1600.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
委員質詢時 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
1600.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1601.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
要求提供相關資料會 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1601.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1602.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
署名答覆者 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
1602.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1603.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
請相關機關盡速 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1603.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1604.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
鬆掉個別委員基本會 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1604.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1605.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
通過定時提案一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1605.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1606.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1609.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1610.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
請問各位上次會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1610.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1612.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
一思路有錯誤或遺漏 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1614.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1614.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
沒有的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1614.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1616.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
沒有錯誤跟遺漏 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1616.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1617.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
我們一思路就要確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1619.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1620.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
接著我們介紹 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1620.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1622.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
到場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1622.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1624.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
跟應要列席的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1624.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1626.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
先介紹在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
1626.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1629.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
在場我們有 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
1630.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
1632.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
翁曉玲召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
1632.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1634.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
林茜淇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
1634.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1637.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
還有陳昭之委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
1637.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1639.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
我們這三大女將都來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
1639.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1641.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
來接著介紹 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1641.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1643.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
我們考試院 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
1643.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1645.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
今天來考試院列席的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1645.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1646.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
副秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1646.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
1648.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
龔奎義 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
1648.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
1650.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
還有全序部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
1650.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
1652.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
施能傑施部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
1653.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
1654.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
全序部政務次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
1654.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
1656.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
懷旭次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
1656.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
1658.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
法務部政務次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
1658.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
1660.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
黃謀信次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
1660.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
1661.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
檢察司司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
1661.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
1663.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
張曉雯司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
1663.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
1665.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
還有內政部政務次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
1665.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
1666.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
馬仕元 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
1666.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
1669.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
馬次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
1669.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
1670.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
警政署副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
1670.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
1671.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
廖迅誠 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
1671.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
1673.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
廖副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
1675.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
1679.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
其餘未及介紹的列席代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
1679.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
1681.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
請參議員名單就不再主一介紹 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
1681.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
1683.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
並列入公報紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
1683.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
1684.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
那本次的會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
1684.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
1685.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
我們是兩天一次會 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
1685.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
1687.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
我們議程排定 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
1687.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
1688.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
討論事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
1688.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
1691.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
有兩案分別是繼續併案審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
1691.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
1692.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
行政院寒景審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
1692.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
1696.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
毒品危害防治條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
1696.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
1698.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
第33條 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
1698.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
1700.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
36條條文的修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
1700.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
1701.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
一共有23案 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
1701.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
1703.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
以及繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
1703.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
1704.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
考試院寒景審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
1704.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
1708.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
公務人員考機法的修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
1708.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
1711.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
由於討論事項各案當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
1711.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
1712.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
部分相關提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
1712.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
1715.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
先前已經分別經過第五會期的 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
1715.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
1717.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
本會第二十二次 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
1717.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
1719.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
跟二十五次的會議審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
1719.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
1722.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
機關代表都已經提出報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
1722.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
1725.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
現就在併入審查的新提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
1725.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
1728.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
尚未進行提案說明的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
1728.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
1730.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
來進行委員的提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
1730.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
1734.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
每一位委員的提案說明是三分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
1734.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
1737.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
那請提案人來進行提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
1737.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
1742.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
首先我們來請第一位翁曉玲翁委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
1745.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
1746.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
是報告昭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
1746.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
1748.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
我想在開始正式的提案說明之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
1748.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
1752.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
我這裡有一個程序性的動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
1752.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
1752.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
是這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
1752.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
1755.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
因為我們今天主要是討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
1755.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
1757.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
毒品危害防治條例的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
1757.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
1759.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
還有公務人員考機法的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
1759.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
1763.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
那麼對於公務人員考機法修法這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
1763.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
1766.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
因為他這次總共是修了30條 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
1766.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
1767.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
坦白說這個等於是 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
1767.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
1769.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
公務人員考機法的大翻修 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
1769.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
1772.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
那我們上一次只有進行過一次巡達 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
1772.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
1774.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
在那一次巡達過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
1774.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
1776.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
我記得就是說蠻多委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
1776.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
1778.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
還有包含司法院對於這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
1778.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
1779.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
其實都有一些意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
1779.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
1782.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
那麼因為現在就是說比較倉促的 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
1782.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
1784.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
就要進行逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
1784.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
1787.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
那本席是認為不是很妥當 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
1787.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
1790.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
所以在這邊我是提案建議說 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
1790.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
1792.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
是不是我們考機法的修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
1792.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
1795.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
我們可以先舉辦一個公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
1795.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
1798.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
因為畢竟基層的聲音也很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
1798.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
1800.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
然後同時還有專家學者們 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
1800.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
1804.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
其實對於考機法的修正也有一些意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
1804.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
1807.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
所以在這裡的話是不是可以請召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
1807.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
1810.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
我們可以就是對於公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
1810.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
1812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
考機法修正案的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
1812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
1814.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
可以舉辦一場公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
1814.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
1817.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
那當然因為正好下週是本席排 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
1817.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
1819.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
我當召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
1819.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
1822.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
那麼所以我本來就會要安排下週一會 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
1822.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
1825.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
針對公務人員待遇調整條例草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
1825.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
1827.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
然後來辦理公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
1827.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
1830.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
那麼同時是如果說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
1830.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
1832.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
這個召委也覺得可以的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
1832.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
1835.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
或許我們可以一起把這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
1835.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
1839.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
都跟公務人員的人事制度等等有關的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
1839.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
1842 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
我們可以就是共同排場公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
1842 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
1845.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
當然在這邊也這個如果說召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
1845.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
1847.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
可以就是在另外排場公聽會的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
1847.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
1849.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
那也都很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
1849.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
1853.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
所以我的建議是說是不是今天我們在這個案子上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
1853.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
1857.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
我們就可以就是來先排公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
1857.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
1860.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
然後之後我們再來進行逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
1860.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
1862.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
那我認為會更為完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
1862.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
1862.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
1865.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
1868.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
公召委講的其實也是很有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
1868.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
1873.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
就是說這個確實整個懲戒 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
1873.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
1876 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
有涉及到公務院的懲戒 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
1876 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
1880.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
這個部分司法院其實我們看考試院跟司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
1880.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
1881.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
確實意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
1883.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
1884.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
1885.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
1888.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
其實就是司法院有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
1888.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
1891.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
倒也不是因為說要不公聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
1891.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
1895.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
我們其實本席都非常贊同 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
1895.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
1899.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
這種重大的一個法案的一個翻修 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
1899.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
1902.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
加強跟各界的一個對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
1902.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
1904.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
尤其是涉及到院紀之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
1904.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
1906.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
有不同的一個看法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
1906.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
1909.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
那確實我都會非常謹慎 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
1909.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
1911.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
公聽不是不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
1911.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
1913.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
但是就是說也不一定是公聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
1913.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
1916.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
我們在立法院我們常常動不動就禁賦惡毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
1916.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
1918.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
連委員會都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
1918.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
1922.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
但是這個這一部的一個法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
1923.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
1925.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
司法院這個地方的一個疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
1925.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
1926.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
以上比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
1926.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
1928.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
虛心懲戒機關的認定這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
1928.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
1931.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
又涉及到整個大法官會議的一個解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
1931.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
1935.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
公務人員依法詮釋取得的這種官等奉及 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
1935.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
1937.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
你說非親公務人員懲戒機關依法定 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
1937.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
1942.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
程序的審議來決定不得降級跟減縫 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
1942.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
1947.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
這個是憲法上扶公職權力所受的一個制度性的一個保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
1947.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
1950.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
司法院的一個疑慮也不是沒有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
1950.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
1953.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
那這次權序部的一個解釋就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
1953.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
1955.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
你現在奉及法23條的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
1955.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
1961.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
就明定就可以法律來規定降序的一個規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
1961.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
1965.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
那權序部會這樣審定這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
1966.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
1967.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
他認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
1967.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
1968.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
他其實就覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
1969.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
1972 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
就類似我們法律院常講的舉重明輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
1972 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
1975.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
免職行政機關的人事權的固有的核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
1975.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
1979.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
那你行政機關當然可以制定降序的一個規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
1979.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
1984.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
所以權序部跟司法院這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
1984.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
1986.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
司法院當然他一定認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
1986.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
1991.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
你去給他侵犯到我的固有的一個權限 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
1991.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
1994.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
我們等一下考試院這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
1994.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
1997.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
程序性我們可以本來就可以來做一個採試 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
1997.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2002.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
但是我來比較在做這種程序性的一個裁定 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2002.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2006.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
以前是不是請這個權序部家 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2006.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2008.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
部長你有來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2008.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2011.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
那個司法院的疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2014.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2016.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
沒關係我先讓他說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2016.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2020.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
因為你的問題其實我們要這一場公聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2020.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2020.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2021.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2023.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
不好意思我剛忘記補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2023.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2027.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
就是說因為昨天有接到公務人員協會等等的這些團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
2027.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2028.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
他們有打電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2028.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2030.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
然後來我辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
2030.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2033.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
我可能或許有召委那邊也有接到 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2033.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2036.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
那麼因為基層他們希望能夠多一點他們的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2036.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2041.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
因為在這次的考績法修正裡面有非常多不確定法律概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2041.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2043.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
什麼職務帶多等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2043.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2046.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
那他們也很擔心未來就是在考績法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2046.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2048.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
看起來本來說是要放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2048.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2051.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
結果反而是越來越抓緊他們的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2051.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2054.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
這個未來的在工作上面的一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2054.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2059.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
所以因為就像我說他是整個全面翻修了30條 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2059.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2062.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
我也有收到 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2062.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2065.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
但是希望說能夠一併考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2065.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2066.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
理法院很厲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2066.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2069.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
理法院都不用討論就可以標給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2069.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2074.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
這個常常在發生的在發生每天在上演的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2074.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2077.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
但我知道我覺得說我在審法案的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
2077.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2081.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
我總是覺得說這種制度性的一個翻修 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
2081.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2082.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
來跟社會對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2082.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2088.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
來多聽聽機關之間的一個不同的一個看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2088.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2091.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
因為畢竟司法院真的是有他的一個疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2091.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2093.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
所以請補兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2093.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2096.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
司部長你對司法院的疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2096.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2098.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
你再論述看看好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
2098.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2099.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
好跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
2099.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2105.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
我想我們有上次在上次這個大體詢問的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2105.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2107.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
然後司法院的提了一份意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2107.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2110.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
那我們後來也就他意見的做了主動 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2110.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2112.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
就是主點的一個回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2112.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2114.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
那基本的基調是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
2114.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2119.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
我們是從宣判的111年的宣判9號的基調開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
2119.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2122.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
這基調開始就告訴我們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2122.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2125.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
如果我們要對公務人員做任何的懲處 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
2125.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2127.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
那同一室友 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
2127.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2131.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
懲取就是不要讓有那個同一室友又送懲戒又送懲處 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2131.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2133.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
那雙重負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2133.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2136.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
那我們這一次的修法其中一個重點之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2137.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2138.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
我們講的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
2138.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2143.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
如果我們這個行政機關已經確定就這個事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2143.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2144.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
採取了懲處 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2144.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2146.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
就不要再送懲戒 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2146.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2149.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
但這從來沒有去告訴行政機關說 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2149.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2151.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
一開始你決定要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2152 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2155.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
如果你認為你覺得這個案子你不想處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
2155.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2156.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
你想送到懲戒去 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
2156.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2157.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
根據現行的這個修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2157.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2159.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
我們沒有禁止這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2159.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2162.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
所以沒有侵犯到這個所謂這個懲戒權 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2162.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2166.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
那至於剛剛提到的這個降序一級這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2166.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2169 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
我們還是認為這舉重明輕的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2169 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2171.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
我們都可以立法政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2171.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2174.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
都可以賦予行政機關在懲處可以免職了 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2174.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2176.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
那比他更輕的怎麼會不賦予 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2176.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2178.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
最後這一點我還是要講 |
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2181.25 |
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我們考卸院這邊包布女認為 |
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2181.25 |
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這一次我們考進來修法 |
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2185.05 |
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無涉憲法層次的問題 |
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2188.97 |
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我們沒有去挑戰懲戒跟懲處 |
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2188.97 |
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2190.33 |
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我們講的是說 |
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2190.33 |
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2192.89 |
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在一個現代化的國家裡面 |
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2192.89 |
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2195.01 |
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行政機關一定要保留 |
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2195.01 |
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2197.85 |
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他作為第一次裁判的一個權利 |
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2197.85 |
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2200.25 |
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那後面如果任何當事人不服 |
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2200.87 |
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2202.67 |
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他都可以行政就職的程序 |
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包括這個最後到這個法院去 |
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2205.07 |
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2206.75 |
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那所以在這個基礎下 |
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到底要賦予行政權 |
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2211.07 |
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在進行行政就職懲處 |
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2211.07 |
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2213.43 |
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有什麼樣的工具種類 |
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2214.31 |
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2215.19 |
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還有效果 |
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2217.55 |
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這純粹屬於立法政策形成的問題 |
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2218.17 |
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2220.01 |
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也就是說這個不是涉及到 |
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2220.75 |
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2221.31 |
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憲法 |
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2222.88 |
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2224.32 |
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如果最後決定說 |
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2227.28 |
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因為基於整個行政管理的需求 |
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2227.28 |
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2229.32 |
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他應該賦予行政權 |
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2229.32 |
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2231.52 |
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有這樣一些更多元的工具 |
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2233 |
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來因應各式各樣的事情 |
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2233 |
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2234.36 |
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這是立法政策的問題 |
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2234.36 |
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2237.68 |
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你不會侵犯到憲法裡面講的懲戒權 |
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2237.68 |
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2240.92 |
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我想這是我綜合性先做這樣一個說明 |
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2242.92 |
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那我也跟委員報告龍九 |
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2242.92 |
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2245.72 |
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跟剛剛那個歐委員提到 |
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2245.72 |
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2247.8 |
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我是不是也可以簡單的回應歐委員的一個 |
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2247.8 |
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2249 |
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我也提到說很多基層 |
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2249 |
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2251.08 |
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我之前講我們程序上 |
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2251.08 |
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2253.32 |
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我們為了做這個事情確實是一個大修 |
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2254.35 |
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2256.39 |
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那我們大修有大修的一個原因 |
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2256.39 |
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2257.83 |
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我想我們在立法說明很清楚 |
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2257.83 |
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2258.99 |
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那在過程裡面 |
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2258.99 |
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2262.03 |
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我們用各式各樣的方式去徵詢 |
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2262.03 |
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2263.79 |
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所有公務同仁的意見 |
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2264.71 |
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2266.71 |
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譬如像說我們也直接開放 |
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2266.71 |
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2268.99 |
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我們透過網路線上的一個調查 |
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2268.99 |
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2269.79 |
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然後有各式各樣 |
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2269.79 |
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2272.19 |
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那我們大概收到大概快三萬個 |
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2272.87 |
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2274.39 |
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所有的同仁的回覆 |
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2274.39 |
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2276.39 |
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對我們所提的這個法案的回覆 |
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2276.39 |
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2278.31 |
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大概62%是贊成 |
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2278.31 |
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2280.39 |
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28%是表示他沒有意見 |
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2280.39 |
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2281.83 |
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那公務同仁一般來講 |
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2281.83 |
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2283.99 |
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如果他贊成跟沒有意見就表示 |
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2283.99 |
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2285.91 |
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他們對這個法案的方向 |
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2285.91 |
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2287.27 |
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其實沒有太大意見 |
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2287.27 |
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2288.55 |
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甚至是支持的 |
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2288.55 |
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2289.67 |
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所以合起來只有九成 |
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2289.67 |
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2291.75 |
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我意思說我們有建行這個程序 |
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2291.75 |
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2294.27 |
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至於有個個別的團體 |
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2294.27 |
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2295.91 |
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也有寫信給我們 |
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2297.51 |
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我們大概都有 |
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2297.51 |
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2299.95 |
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根據他一個東西也做不斷的調整 |
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2299.95 |
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2301.07 |
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也回覆他們意見 |
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2301.11 |
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2302.43 |
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裡面最多可能是說 |
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2302.43 |
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2303.95 |
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譬如像說如果是 |
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2303.95 |
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2305.39 |
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我們有一個未打良好 |
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2305.39 |
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2308.99 |
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那些條件是會有法律不確定的一個因素 |
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2308.99 |
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2310.51 |
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大概談的是這個部分 |
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2310.51 |
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2312.11 |
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那我先講一個部分 |
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2312.75 |
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2314.43 |
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在我們歷史的紀錄上 |
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2315.16 |
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2317.96 |
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所謂未打良好就比較聽像現在 |
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2317.96 |
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2319.08 |
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很像現在的那個 |
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2319.67 |
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2320.39 |
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那個平等 |
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2320.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
2322.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
那我們最近歷年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
2322.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
2324.76 |
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幾乎那個現在平等 |
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2324.76 |
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2327.56 |
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幾乎沒有明確的那個法定的那個 |
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2327.56 |
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2328.6 |
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那個事由 |
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2328.6 |
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2329.96 |
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我們機關打出來 |
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2330.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
2332.12 |
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或打平等的人數 |
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2332.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
2334.28 |
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大概不到0.1% |
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2335.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
2337.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
也就是說機關事實上對這個事情 |
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2337.5 |
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2339.18 |
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都非常非常慎重 |
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2339.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
2340.54 |
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而且他一定有一個 |
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2340.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
2343.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
進行後面的考機文會什麼一個程序 |
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2343.18 |
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2344.54 |
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那我要講的只是這個 |
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2344.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
2346.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
陳述這些事實也就是說 |
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2346.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
2348.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
這些不確定性的概念 |
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2348.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
2351.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
事實上現在在我們考機法的事情記者 |
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2351.9 |
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2354.7 |
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甚至在考機法的文字裡面也都有 |
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2354.7 |
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2357.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
所以怎麼樣讓這個文字能夠更 |
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2357.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
2359.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
表示說有人有疑慮 |
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2359.04 |
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2361.6 |
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類似說這會不會有點這個 |
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2361.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
2363.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
有點太主觀怎麼樣 |
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2363.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
2365.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
我覺得我們都願意在 |
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2365.44 |
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2367.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
譬如說逐條審查的時候 |
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2367.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
2368.88 |
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在法律文字上哪些部分 |
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2368.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
2371.04 |
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可以大家經過大家共同的一個 |
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2371.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
2372.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
討論把它做得更好 |
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2372.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
2373.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
或是在陳述說 |
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2373.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
2375.44 |
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我們部裡面就這個法案的 |
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2375.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
2377.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
一個方式也做了這些事情 |
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2377.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
2379.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
那當然委員的這個 |
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2379.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
2380.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
希望多聽 |
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2380.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
2381.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
再聽多些意見 |
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2381.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
2382.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
那這個事情 |
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2382.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
2384.16 |
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我就尊重這兩位 |
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2384.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
2385.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
召委的最後的一個判斷 |
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2385.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
2386.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
謝謝 |
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2386.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
2388.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
現在的公聽是這樣 |
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2388.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
2390.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
現在公聽兩人叫都差不多 |
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2390.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
2393.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
來發言都很刺激 |
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2393.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
2394.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
但是這個也 |
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2394.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
2397.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
台灣的很特殊的一個現象 |
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2397.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
2398.56 |
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這個也都尊重 |
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2398.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
2400 |
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那是不是也再來 |
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2400 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
2400.8 |
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我再來聽 |
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2400.8 |
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2402.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
因為畢竟這個是第二案 |
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2402.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
2403.52 |
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第一案其實不是這個 |
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2404.56 |
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但沒有關係 |
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2404.56 |
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2406.8 |
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既然聽了考試院 |
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2406.8 |
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2408.72 |
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全序部這邊的看法 |
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2410 |
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是不是再來聽聽 |
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2410 |
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2411.76 |
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那個司法院 |
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2411.76 |
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2414.72 |
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今天陳廷長有來嗎 |
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2414.72 |
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2415.44 |
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司法院 |
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2416.24 |
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2417.68 |
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司法院你們在這裡看完 |
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2417.68 |
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2419.12 |
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如果你們簡單回應一下 |
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2419.12 |
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2420.8 |
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我看最有疑慮的就是你們了 |
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2421.81 |
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2422.93 |
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請你講沒關係 |
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2422.93 |
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2423.97 |
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好 是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
2423.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
2427.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
我想跟主席跟各位委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
2427.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
2431.41 |
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其實降級檢封 |
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2431.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
2433.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
必須要經過司法的懲戒 |
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2433.97 |
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2439.33 |
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這是四字483號解釋所揭示的 |
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2439.33 |
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2441.57 |
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那這一號解釋呢 |
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2441.57 |
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2444.45 |
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目前仍然有效 |
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2444.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
2447.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
而且111憲判九 |
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2447.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
2450.05 |
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並沒有提到這一號解釋 |
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2450.05 |
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2454.45 |
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也沒有排除這一號的解釋的適用 |
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2454.45 |
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2459.17 |
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那因此在現行這個有效解釋下 |
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2459.17 |
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2463.01 |
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這一部分就是屬於憲法未接 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
2463.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
2466.53 |
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憲法層次上的一個保障 |
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2466.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
2470.37 |
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是不是可以直接用法律層次的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
2470.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
2474.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
來改變憲法未接所設的制度性保障 |
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2474.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
2477.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
我們認為有疑義的 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
2477.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
2481.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
而且剛才所引到的111憲判九 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
2481.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
2483.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
他解釋的標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
2483.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
2488.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
是公務人員丁等考績的免職 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
2490.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
2492.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
跟這裡所講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
2492.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
2496.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
草案所講到服務懲處 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
2496.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
2499.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
其實雖然名稱不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
2499.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
2502.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
但是也就是現行考績法 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
2502.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
2505.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
所講的專案考績懲處 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
2505.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
2506.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
這一塊 |
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2507.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
2513.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
大法官定性為實質的懲戒處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
2513.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
2515.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
那我想這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
2515.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
2518.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
我們的疑慮還是認為說是跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
2518.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
2521.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
釋字483號解釋不符 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
2521.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
2526.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
那更何況111憲判九所講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
2527.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
2530.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
所處理的跟這邊的服務懲處 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
2530.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
2532.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
其實是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
2532.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
2535.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
沒有所謂舉重明輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
2535.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
2537.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
因為講的根本是不一樣的事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
2537.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
2540.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
更何況憲法 |
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2540.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
2544 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
的解釋權限在於大法官 |
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2544 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
2547.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
只有大法官有權來解釋憲法 |
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2547.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
2551.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
其他任何人或任何機關都無權解釋 |
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2551.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
2556.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
更是沒有辦法用舉重明輕這樣法理 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
2556.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
2559.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
就來任意的來解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
2559.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
2561.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
這個對憲法做解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
2561.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
2566.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
認為說可以排除483號解釋的適用 |
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2566.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
2570.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
所以這個是我們疑慮的所在 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
2570.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
2571.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
2572.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
2576.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
這個法律20條第四項規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
2576.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
2579.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
當做了服務懲處之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
2579.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
2582.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
就不再移送懲戒 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
2582.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
2586.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
那麼我們再來配合16條的規定 |
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2586.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
2590.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
16條這裡明定機關就公務人員 |
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2590.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
2593.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
有應該受服務懲處的時候 |
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2593.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
2596.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
要及時辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
2596.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
2599.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
所以既然科宇機關及時辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
2600.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
2602.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
已經做了懲處之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
2602.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
2604.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
再搭配20條第四項 |
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2604.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
2607.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
他就不可能再移送懲戒 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
2607.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
2611.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
所以我覺得這樣子一個制度的設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
2611.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
2614.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
實質上就是封鎖了 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
2614.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
2622.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
公務人員享有正當法律程序保障的懲戒權 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
2622.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
2624.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
那麼我們會覺得這樣的一個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
2624.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
2627.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
恐怕對公務人員權利的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
2627.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
2630.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
是有欠缺的 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
2630.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
2634.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
更何況如果做了行政懲處 |
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2634.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
2640.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
他的就計是到行政法院去打行政訴訟 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
2640.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
2643.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
但是行政法院的行政訴訟 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
2643.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
2647.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
跟懲戒法院做的懲戒處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
2647.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
2650.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
其實這兩個目的不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
2650.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
2653.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
所以他的制度也不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
2653.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
2656.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
事實上懲戒法院做的懲戒處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
2656.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
2662.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
他是第一次對公務員做出一個懲戒的處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
2664.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
2670.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
行政訴訟它是行政機關已經做了一個處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
2670.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
2672.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
公務人員認為他有違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
2672.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
2674.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
然後去打行政訴訟 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
2674.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
2680.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
所以行政訴訟是一個事後就計法院的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
2680.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
2682.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
懲戒法院做的懲戒懲處 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
2682.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
2687.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
則是第一次來做一個處罰的決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
2687.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
2689.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
所以這兩個概念是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
2689.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
2691.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
因此行政訴訟 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
2692.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
2694.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
他有他的就計的 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
2694.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
2697.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
他的就計範圍比較窄 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
2697.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
2703.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
行政法院只是去審查原來行政處分的合法性 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
2703.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
2707.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
他不會去審理到你的妥適性 |
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2707.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
2708.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
因此 |
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2711.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
2717.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
行政訴訟所能夠給予公務員就計是有限的 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
2717.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
2722.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
再加上行政訴訟有一個不利於變更禁止原則的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
2722.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
2724.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
也就是今天機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
2724.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
2729.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
你如果對一個公務人員的違施行為是比較重大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
2729.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
2732.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
結果你卻做了一個懲戒處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
2732.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
2734.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
當你做了懲戒處分之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
2734.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
2738.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
他就不可以再送司法的懲戒 |
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2738.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
2745.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
行政法院也只能審查你合不合法而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
2745.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
2747.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
不能夠去審查你適不適當 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
2747.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
2751.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
是不是應該要判更重的一個處分的種類 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
2751.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
2754.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
行政法院沒有辦法做到這一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
2754.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
2758.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
因此我們覺得這一個整套的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
2758.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
2764.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
因此我們覺得不管在制度的設計上是有不足的 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
2764.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
2769.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
或者是甚至與目前現行有效的 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
2769.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
2777.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
釋字483、491、宣判111、宣判9號的解釋意旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
2777.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
2779.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
都是有違反的 |
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2779.61 |
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2782.33 |
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以上是我們的一律與說明,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
2783.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
2785.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
2785.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
2787.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
我來處理一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
2787.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
2789.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
因為這條涉及到憲法44條 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
2789.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
2791.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
這個院際紛爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
2791.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
2794.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
這要大腳的,總統來調節 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
2794.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
2796.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
這我們在這裡沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
2796.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
2798.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
所以我倒這樣看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
2798.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
2799.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
院際之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
2799.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
2801.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
不管是對於權限 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
2801.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
2803.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
或是法律間接 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
2803.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
2804.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
2805.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
2809.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
到底要不要動用到總統院際調節權 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
2809.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
2812.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
這個是看法會有所不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
2812.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
2814.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
但是至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
2814.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
2817.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
歐盟委員剛提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
2817.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
2820.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
這個又確實涉及到很多公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
2820.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
2822.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
他本身的一個權益的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
2822.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
2824.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
確實我這邊也收到 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
2824.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
2826.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
辦公室也收到很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
2826.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
2827.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
這樣主席來做裁視 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
2827.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
2829.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
雖然這是第二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
2829.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
2832.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
我們今天這個案子就先不處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
2832.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
2834.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
我們擇期在審 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
2834.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
2835.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
先一聽我說聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
2836.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
2837.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
更加好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
2838.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
2840.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
別的地方或者院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
2840.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
2841.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
動不動就驚呼惡毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
2841.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
2844.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
連在委員會也不討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
2844.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
2846.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
我們常常在批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
2846.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
2847.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
2847.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
2849.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
司法法制委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
2849.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
2850.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
我們就不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
2850.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
2853.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
所以本次的議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
2853.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
2855.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
台灣事項排第二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
2855.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
2856.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
本次會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
2856.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
2859.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
我們就來實質審查第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
2859.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
2861.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
2861.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
2863.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
毒害防治條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
2863.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
2864.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
第二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
2864.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
2867.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
我們就另期來繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
2867.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
2871.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
跟第一案無關的獵食人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
2871.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
2873.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
可以先行離席 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
2873.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
2875.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
你看你們就笑臉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
2885.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
2887.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
在辦理堂說聽合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
2887.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
2888.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
謝謝周偉支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
2888.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
2890.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
不要這樣說合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
2899.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
2902.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
我們現在來進行提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
2902.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
2903.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
首先 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
2903.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
2905.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
2905.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
2911.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
跟第一案無關的獵食人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
2911.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
2913.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
可以先行離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
2917.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
2919.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
來我們會議要繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
2921.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
2923.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
提案說明的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
2923.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
2925.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
我們是不是先請翁委員小林 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
2925.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
2927.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
來進行提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
2927.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
2929.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
時間三分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
2935.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
2937.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
謝謝周偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
2937.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
2940.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
今天我們其實主要要審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
2940.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
2942.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
毒品危害防治條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
2942.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
2945.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
第33條條文的修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
2945.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
2947.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
本案的核心目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
2947.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
2949.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
主要就是為了防止毒品的氾濫 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
2949.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
2953.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
並且要因應新興毒品與適用型態的演變 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
2953.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
2955.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
因為在現行條文裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
2955.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
2958.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
只有針對尿液檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
2958.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
2962.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
也就是針對特定人員來實施尿液檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
2962.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
2964.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
但是我們知道現在其實檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
2964.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
2966.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
毒品的方式日新月異 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
2966.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
2968.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
而且也多了很多種不同的選項 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
2968.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
2970.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
所以在這次 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
2970.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
2972.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
除了就是大多數的委員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
2972.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
2974.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
要增列唾液採驗之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
2974.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
2976.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
那本席呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
2976.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
2980.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
更主張也可以將毛髮納入法定毒品的檢測方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
2980.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
2982.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
因為這不僅是技術的升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
2982.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
2986.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
而且更是完善我國毒品防治體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
2986.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
2988.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
即為關鍵的一部 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
2988.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
2990.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
那麼為什麼我認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
2990.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
2992.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
除了現行的尿液檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
2992.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
2994.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
還有待會大家要討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
2994.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
2996.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
除了要增加唾液檢驗之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
2996.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
2998.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
還要增訂毛髮檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
2998.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3000.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
主要是有三大理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3000.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3002.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
第一個就是要彌補傳統檢測的盲點 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
3002.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3004.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
可以展現長效追溯力 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3004.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3008.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
現行的實務主要是依賴尿液的檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3008.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3010.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
但是尿液是受限於藥物 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
3010.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3012.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
在人體內的代謝速度 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
3012.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
3014.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
所以多數的毒品在施用後 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
3014.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
3016.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
大概72小時之後就很難以檢出 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
3016.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3018.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
那麼相比之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
3018.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
3020.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
毒品代謝物會隨著血液進入毛囊 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
3020.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
3022.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
並且流傳於毛髮當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
3022.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3024.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
所以透過毛髮的分段檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
3024.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
3026.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
檢驗出的期間可以長達數年 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
3026.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
3028.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
而且還能夠完整的還原受檢者 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3028.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
3030.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
在一定期間之內的施用歷程 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
3030.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3032.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
是可以有效的補足尿液時間的局限 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
3032.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
3034.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
好,那第二個就是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
3034.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
3036.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
互補發揮最大的效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
3036.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
3038.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
提升證據的可信度 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3038.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3040.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
目前毛髮檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
3040.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3042.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
並非是要完全取代尿液的檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3042.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3044.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
而是雙管齊下 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
3051.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3053.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
尿液的檢測其實是適合 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
3053.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3055.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
可以釐清近期 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
3055.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3057.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
有沒有施用 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
3057.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3059.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
而毛髮檢查則是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
3059.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3061.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
在實務上作為極佳的補強證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
3061.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3063.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
兩種檢測的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
3063.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3065.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
可以互相相互補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
3065.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3067.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
不僅能夠提升檢驗的完整性 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3067.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
3069.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
更能夠強化司法產生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
3069.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3071.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
科學性與可信度 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3071.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3073.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
第三個就是技術規範要明確化 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
3073.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3075.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
我們也兼顧人群與各自的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
3075.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3077.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
過去實務雖然說有將 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3077.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3079.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
已經將毛髮檢驗作為輔助的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3079.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3083.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
但是在法治上對於毛髮檢體的採集 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3083.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3085.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
保存使用銷毀及識別 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3085.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3087.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
以及去識別化的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3089.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3091.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
往往缺乏明確的法律授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
3091.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3093.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
這次的修法就明確地將 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
3093.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3095.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
毛髮納入本條的第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
3095.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3097.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
並且與第二項授權行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
3097.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3099.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
訂定實施辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
3099.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
3101.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
可以讓第一項執行人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
3101.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
3103.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
有法可循 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
3103.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
3105.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
同時也可以為了民眾的人身自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
3105.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
3107.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
資訊自主以及個人的隱私權 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
3107.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
3109.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
提供完善的制度保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
3109.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
3111.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
總結來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
3111.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
3113.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
本席提案就是除了 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
3113.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
3115.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
要增加脫衣之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
3115.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
3117.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
還要再增加毛髮採驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
3117.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
3119.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
所以在這邊還請各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
3119.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
3121.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
支持本席所提的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
3121.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
3123.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
3133.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
3137.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
好謝謝翁曉玲委員的提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
3137.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
3141.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
接下來請林茜淇委員來做提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
3142.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
3144.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
有什麼好說的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
3145.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
3147.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
好沒關係 別再說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
3150.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
3152.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
3156.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
3160.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
今天在提出的書面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
3160.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
3162.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
書面報告的機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
3162.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
3164.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
相關的書面內容請各位來參閱 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
3164.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
3166.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
並列入公報記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
3166.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
3168.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
由於討論事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
3168.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
3170.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
第一案報告詢答完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
3170.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
3172.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
決議另定期 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
3172.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
3174.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
3174.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
3176.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
今天會議就不再詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
3176.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
3178.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
進行來做審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
3178.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
3180.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
現在來進行討論事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
3182.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
3184.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
討論事項前 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
3184.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
3186.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
我們先請醫事人員宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
3186.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
3188.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
討論事項各案的提案條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
3188.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
3190.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
預估宣讀時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
3190.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
3192.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
兩分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
3192.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
3194.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
另外為了審查如果有修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
3194.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
3196.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
或者附帶決議的提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
3196.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
3198.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
請盡速將書面送交主席台 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
3198.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
3200.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
B-REA來印發現場進行討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
3200.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
3202.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
如果有收到 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
3202.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
3204.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
這個修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
3204.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
3206.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
一併來做宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
3206.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
3208.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
宣讀以後我們就逐案來進行討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
3208.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
3210.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
3209.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
3211.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
討論事項第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
3211.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
3213.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
繼續併案審查行政院和精神疫毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
3213.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
3215.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
危害防治條例第三三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
3215.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
3217.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
及第三十六條條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
3217.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
3219.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
等二十三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
3219.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
3221.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
請參閱條文對照表 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
3221.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
3223.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
行政院提案第三三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
3223.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
3225.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
除第一項及第二項局中的尿疫後增列 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
3225.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
3227.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
或唾液外其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
3227.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
3229.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
委員羅志強等提案第三三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
3229.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
3231.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
同行政院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
3231.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
3233.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
委員羅廷偉等提案第三三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
3233.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
3235.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
除第二項修正為 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
3235.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
3237.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
前項特定人員之範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
3237.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
3239.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
或脫憶之程序方式及其他相關事項之辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
3239.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
3241.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
由行政院定之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
3241.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
3243.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
其餘同行政院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
3243.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
3245.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
委員徐宇貞等委員林淑芬等委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
3245.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
3247.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
羅美玲等委員張雅玲等委員陳培宇等 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
3247.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
3249.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
提案第三三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
3249.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
3251.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
就同行政院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
3251.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
3253.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
委員鍾嘉斌等提案第三三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
3253.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
3255.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
除第一項及第二項局中的尿疫後增列 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
3255.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3257.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
脫憶血液或毛髮外其餘同 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
3257.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
3259.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
現行條文委員林月晴 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
3259.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
3261.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
等委員廖偉祥等委員伍立華等 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
3261.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
3263.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
提案第三三條就同行政院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
3263.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3265.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
委員謝龍介等提案第三三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
3265.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
3267.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
就同委員羅庭薇等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
3267.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3269.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
委員徐富奎等委員林依晶等委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
3269.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3271.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
吳思耀等委員林倩琪等委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
3271.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
3273.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
吳佩儀等委員賴慧元等提案第三三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
3273.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3275.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
就同行政院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
3275.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
3277.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
委員吳其銘等提案第三三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
3277.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
3279.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
除第一項及第二項局中的尿疫後增列 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
3279.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3281.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
或脫憶快篩外其餘同 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
3281.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
3283.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
現行條文委員郭育芹等提案第三三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
3283.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3285.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
就同行政院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
3285.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
3287.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
委員許志杰等提案第三三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
3287.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
3289.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
就同委員鍾嘉斌等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
3289.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3291.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
委員吳小琳等提案第三三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
3291.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3293.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
委員吳小琳等提案第三三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
3293.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3295.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
除第一項及第二項局中的尿疫後增列 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
3295.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3297.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
敦號、毛髮或脫衣外其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
3297.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3299.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
委員吳小琳等提案第三三條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
3299.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3301.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
除條文中的尿疫後均增列 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3301.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3303.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
敦號、毛髮外其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
3303.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3305.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
行政院提案第三六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
3305.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3307.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
除在後段條文中的第三三條之一後 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
3307.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3309.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
增列某年某月某日修正這條文外 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
3309.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3311.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
其餘同現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
3311.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3313.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
委員羅志強等委員羅庭薇等 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
3313.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3315.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
委員徐宇貞等委員林淑芬等 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
3315.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3317.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
委員羅美玲等委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
3317.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3319.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
張宇農等委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
3321.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3323.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
張雅玲等委員陳培宇等 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
3323.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3325.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
委員鍾嘉斌等委員林月晴等 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3325.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3327.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
委員廖偉祥等委員吳麗華等 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
3327.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3329.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
委員謝龍介等委員許富奎等 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
3329.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3331.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
委員林一基等委員林倩琪等 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
3331.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3333.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
委員吳佩儀等委員賴慧元等 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
3333.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3335.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
委員吳琴明等委員吳裕琴等 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3335.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3337.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
郭裕琴等委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
3337.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3339.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
許志杰等委員翁小琳等 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3339.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3341.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
提案第三三三六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3341.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3343.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
郭文貴等委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3345.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3347.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
說到附帶決議兩件 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3347.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3349.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
附帶決議一 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3349.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3351.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
為使第一線執法人員有所依循 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3351.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3353.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
並保障人民財產與 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3353.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3355.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
工作權針對駕駛人 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3355.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3357.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
若因脫役快篩偽陽性 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
3357.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3359.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
自當場遭一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
3359.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3361.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
保管車輛調扣駕照 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3361.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3363.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
貨採法而後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3363.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3365.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
法定檢驗證明未 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3365.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3367.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
私用毒品者政府應有 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3367.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3369.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
具體支補救機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3369.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3371.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
遠要求法務部應會同內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3371.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3373.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
檢證署衛生福利部等相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3373.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3375.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
機關與三個院內 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3375.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3377.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
針對毒品多役快篩偽陽性 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3377.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3379.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
案件研擬具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3379.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3381.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
救濟與補償機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3381.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3383.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
提案人陳昭之等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3384.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3386.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
附帶決議二 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3385.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3387.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
將女性先影響精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3389.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3391.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
物質日新月異 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3391.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3393.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
為防止特定物質在 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3393.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3395.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
列為毒品管制前 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3395.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3397.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
危害民眾安全及健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3397.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3399.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
使有建立預警機制之必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3399.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3401.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
建請主管機關會同 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3401.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3403.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
相關部會應建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3403.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3405.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
預警措施以把握 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3405.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3407.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
時效在第一時間嚇制 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3407.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3409.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
及擴散及危害 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3409.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3411.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
另為防治而效 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3411.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3413.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
因新制未成熟 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3413.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3415.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
預售誤導經由網站及 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3415.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3417.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
行動應用程式接觸毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3417.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3419.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
應徵訂各目的事業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3419.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3421.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
或司法警察機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3421.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3423.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
得令該網站業者及 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3423.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3425.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
行動應用業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3425.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3427.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
移除貼文或令網際網路 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3427.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3429.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
接取服務提供者 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3429.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3431.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
為停止 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3431.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3433.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
解析或限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3433.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3435.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
接取之處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3435.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3437.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
提案人張瑞雄等人宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3439.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3441.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
好我們條文已經宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3441.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3443.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
現在來進行討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3443.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3445.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
討論事項第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3445.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3447.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
繼續來並案審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3447.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3449.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
行政院含請審議毒品危害 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3449.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3451.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
防治條例第33條 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3451.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3453.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
跟36條 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3453.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3455.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
條文的修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3455.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3457.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
都中23案 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3457.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3459.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
請問在場的委員我們是否要先進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3459.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3461.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
大體討論或者直接進入逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3462.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3464.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
直接逐條 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3464.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3466.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
直接逐條 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
3466.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3468.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
今天都中3條 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3468.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3470.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
3條跟2個決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
3470.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3472.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
那第33條 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
3472.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3474.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
3477.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3479.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
3481.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3483.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3484.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3486.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
那我們逐條來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3486.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3488.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3488.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3490.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
各位在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3490.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3492.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
針對第33條 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3492.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3496.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
這個為了防治毒品犯案 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3496.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3498.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
對特定人採驗、增列、唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3498.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3502.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
有提案令徵毛法協議為採驗的 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3502.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3504.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
一個種類的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3504.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3506.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
我看是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3507.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3509.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
大家有沒有什麼特別的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3512.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3514.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
來 林建己委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3514.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3516.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
張委還有各位同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3516.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3518.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
大家好 那真的是一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3518.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3520.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
像我們提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3520.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3522.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
有關於這個毒品檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3522.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3524.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
的這個科技其實相 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3524.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3526.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
一直在持續的精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3526.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3528.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
各種身為的檢體在於 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3528.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
3530.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
這個準確性、時效性 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
3530.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
3532.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
還有採樣的便利性跟適用情境 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
3532.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
3534.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
也都有很多很成熟的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
3534.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
3536.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
那最主要現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
3536.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
3538.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
這個我們毒品危害防治條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
3538.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
3540.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
那僅僅以尿液 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
3540.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
3542.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
所以採檢其實也很難 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
3542.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
3544.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
回應不同種類 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
3544.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
3546.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
還有列管對象跟實際的一個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
3546.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
3548.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
所以主要是為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
3548.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
3550.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
毒品防治制度的彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
3550.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
3552.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
跟執行的效能 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
3552.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
3554.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
然後更擴大這個法定的採檢方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
3554.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
3556.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
讓主管機關能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
3556.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
3558.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
將其列管對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
3558.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
3560.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
做一個比較有效的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
3560.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
3562.06 |
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然後在執行場域的特性跟風險程度上 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
3562.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
3564.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
能夠比較採行 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
3564.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
3566.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
適當的檢體的採驗措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
3566.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
3568.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
然後相關的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
3568.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
3570.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
與時俱進的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
3570.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
3572.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
能夠比較授權這樣一個規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
3572.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
3574.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
那整個法制面 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
3574.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
3576.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
可以做一個強制 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
3576.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
3578.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
那至於我們也有其他同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
3578.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
3580.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
提到了一些更精進的 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
3580.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
3582.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
包括毛髮的這個部分 |
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3582.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
3584.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
我覺得都可以一併來考量 |
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3584.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
3586.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
那因為現在科技進步的 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
3586.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
3588.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
蠻快的 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
3588.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
3590.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
所以我們也必須與時俱進 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
3590.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
3592.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
然後很即時的來做一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
3592.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
3594.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
檢測及擴大效能的一些管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
3594.06 |
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3596.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
那以上說明 |
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3596.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
3598.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
3598 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
3600 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
好來接下來陳昭之委員來 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
3600 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
3602 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
謝謝剛剛這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
3602 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
3604 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
千琦還有歐文委員他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
3604 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
3606 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
都有提到毛髮的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
3606 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
3608 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
那這個部分我個人支持就能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
3608 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
3610 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
想盡辦法就是把這個事實 |
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3610 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
3612 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
找出來那但是現在應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
3612 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
3614 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
衛福部務司在場嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
3614 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
3616 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
就是我想知道那個毛髮因為 |
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3616 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
3618 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
因為這個像脫翼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
3618 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
3620 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
檢驗應該是現場立即 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
3620 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
3622 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
可能可以有初步的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
3622 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
3624 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
反應但是等一下我會再提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
3624 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
3626 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
決議說明說就有一些偽陽性 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
3626 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
3628 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
我們還是要小心處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
3628 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
3630 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
那有關毛髮的部分他不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
3630 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
3632 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
現場做檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
3632 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
3634 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
所以他一定是有一個 |
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3633.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
3635.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
運送的過程或是一個時間的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
3635.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
3637.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
就是後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
3637.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
3639.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
到底這個我們檢驗的 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
3639.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
3641.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
那個能力準確性 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
3641.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
3643.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
多久以後會生效等等然後這個當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
3643.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
3645.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
涉及這個樣本的傳送 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
3645.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
3647.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
到哪個地方去做處理等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
3647.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
3649.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
我是支持有這個做法但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
3649.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
3651.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
我是希望能夠了解那是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
3651.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
3653.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
可以請衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
3653.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
3655.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
這個部分是衛福部來做的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
3656.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
3658.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
可不可以請衛福部代表來 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
3658.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
3660.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
跟我們說明一下就是加入毛髮檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
3660.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
3662.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
你們在實際上的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
3662.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
3664.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
會是如何讓我們更安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
3664.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
3666.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
那我個人支持是這個加入的 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
3666.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
3668.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
好嗎謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
3668.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
3670.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
沒關係每一個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
3670.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
3672.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
先 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
3672.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
3674.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
大家講我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
3674.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
3676.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
翁曉玲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
3677.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
3679.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
是趙偉還有各位委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
3679.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
3681.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
那麼本席這次 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
3681.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
3683.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
所提出的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
3683.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
3685.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
要針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
3685.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
3687.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
現在我們這次 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
3687.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
3689.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
修法主要是就是對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
3689.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
3691.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
就是特定人員的檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
3691.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
3693.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
除了現在的尿液檢驗之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
3693.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
3695.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
我們多增加了唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
3695.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
3697.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
的這個篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
3697.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
3699.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
這是大多數委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
3699.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
3701.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
那我本身是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
3701.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
3703.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
除了要多增加唾液之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
3703.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
3705.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
還要多增加毛髮的檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
3705.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
3707.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
那麼我的想法很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
3707.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
3709.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
第一個既然是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
3709.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
3711.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
是要去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
3711.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
3713.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
到底現在一些特定的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
3713.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
3715.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
他們可能在執行相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
3715.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
3717.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
毒品的這個查驗當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
3717.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
3719.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
他們至於本身可能有吸食 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
3719.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
3721.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
所以也要針對這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
3721.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
3723.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
受監督的這個特定人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
3723.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
3725.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
我們要去採集 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
3725.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
3727.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
他們有沒有可能會有吸食毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
3727.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
3729.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
既然是如此的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
3729.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
3731.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
那當然我們檢測的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
3731.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
3733.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
檢測的方法可以多幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
3733.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
3735.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
而且就像我們說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
3735.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
3737.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
就現在其實檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
3737.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
3739.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
到底有沒有吸毒的這個方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
3739.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
3741.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
其實很多也不只是毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
3741.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
3743.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
我前幾天還問了 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
3743.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
3745.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
這個電視科學的專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
3745.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
3747.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
他們說其實現在包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
3747.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
3749.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
減指甲 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
3749.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
3751.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
其實指甲都可以去測試的 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
3751.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
3753.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
那因此就是對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
3753.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
3755.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
這個特定人員我們要給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
3755.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
3757.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
3757.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
3759.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
有沒有吸毒這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
3759.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
3761.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
透過尿液這當然是一個傳統的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
3761.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
3763.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
但是其實去檢驗尿液 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
3763.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
3765.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
其實我個人覺得也是麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
3765.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
3767.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
那如果說可以讓受監督人 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
3767.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
3769.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
就是要被檢查的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
3769.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
3771.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
他自己可以選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
3771.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
3773.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
他到底是要用尿液 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
3773.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
3775.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
唾液還是說是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
3775.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
3777.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
3777.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
3779.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
那麼這個事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
3779.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
3781.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
他都是可以作為去一個檢測的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
3781.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
3783.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
剛剛招資委員這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
3783.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
3785.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
有提到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
3785.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
3787.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
像尿液的檢測可能也不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
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當場 |
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當場就可以 |
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3793.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
做出來結果的 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
3795.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
毛髮反應比較長期 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
3795.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
3797.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
然後可能要更 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
3799.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
可能毛髮在檢查的當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
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他的過程可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
3803.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
像毛髮過去我了解重金屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
3805.31 |
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所以我要請專家講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
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可能要十根以上之類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
那個量不是說一兩根就足夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
3809.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
3811.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
這個有關專業執勤的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
3813.31 |
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所以我要講的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
3815.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
其實因為我知道法務部可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
3817.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
有一些意見認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
3819.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
用毛髮檢測可能是一種侵入 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
3819.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
3821.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
可是其實坦白說 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
3821.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
3823.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
我倒不覺得毛髮的檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
3823.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
3825.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
是一種侵入反而是 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
3827.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
像是尿檢或唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
3829.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
如果說這個用唾液塞檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
3829.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
3831.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
這個受監督人他 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
3831.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
3833.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
一直嘴巴閉著他不張開 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
3833.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
3835.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
你也是要把他的嘴巴打開 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
3837.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
然後進去去測那反而是頭髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
3837.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
3839.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
來講的話他也不見得一定要去拔 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
3841.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
要有那個毛囊他其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
3841.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
3843.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
這個只要有剪到 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
3845.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
一幾根的話其實應該也就 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
3845.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
3847.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
足夠了當然我知道如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
3849.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
是今天要去增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
3849.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
3851.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
毛髮的檢測可能會造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
3851.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
3853.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
就是相關的單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
3855.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
他們要多花一些錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
3855.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
3857.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
未來可能要去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
3857.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
3859.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
這個毛髮的這個檢測開始委託 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
3859.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
3861.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
給外面的專業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
3863.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
實驗室去做或者是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
3863.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
3865.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
自己可能要增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
3865.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
3867.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
人力設備去檢驗但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
3869.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
我的想法是說如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
3871.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
是從防治毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
3871.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
3873.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
的這個角度來看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
3875.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
有更多不同可以去檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
3875.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
3877.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
毒品的方法我都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
3877.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
3879.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
支持的那甚至包含就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
3879.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
3881.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
我們剛剛說的連指甲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
3881.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
3883.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
其實都可以作為一個檢測的手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
3883.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
3885.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
好那以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
3885.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
3887.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
王委員其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
3887.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
3889.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
我知道大家都有準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
3889.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
3891.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
而來啦但是這個毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
3891.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
3893.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
3893.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
3895.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
其實是為血液 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
3895.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
3897.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
到最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
3897.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
3899.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
到最後就跑去法師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
3899.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
3901.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
錄影帶回收 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
3901.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
3903.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
但是那個其實是一個長期的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
3903.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
3905.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
這個其實在座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
3905.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
3907.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
很多實務上大家都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
3907.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
3909.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
專家啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
3909.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
3911.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
可是我們現在講的是在講初驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
3912.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
3914.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
講的是在講初驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
3914.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
3916.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
要跟他驗出來你說尿液 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
3916.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
3918.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
當然是大家看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
3918.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
3920.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
想簡單的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
3920.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
3922.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
很冰凶硬的就是尿液 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
3922.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
3924.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
那確實也會講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
3924.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
3926.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
3926.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
3928.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
但是毛髮就是比較長期的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
3928.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
3930.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
再來就唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
3930.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
3932.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
再來什麼血液 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
3932.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
3934.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
有可能現在還 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
3934.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
3936.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
我這幾天在準備的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
3936.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
3938.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
我還發現還有什麼汗液 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
3939.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
3941.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
汗液也有耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
3941.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
3943.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
紅膜那個就不用講了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
3943.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
3945.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
那個大家都知道了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
3945.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
3947.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
問題就是說王委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
3947.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
3949.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
3949.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
3951.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
現在講的就是你頭前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
3951.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
3953.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
在做初驗的時候是不是要給人家方便 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
3953.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
3955.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
講的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
3955.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
3957.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
比較敷衍的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
3957.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
3959.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
司法機關到最後一定都是敷衍的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
3959.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
3961.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
他那個程序到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
3961.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
3963.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
又變成的比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
3963.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
3965.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
變成到最後會比較嚴謹了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
3965.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
3967.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
所以剛剛陳召治委員提到那個確實喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
3967.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
3969.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
毛髮的部分都是在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
3969.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
3971.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
回溯比較長期你時間也會比較久 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
3971.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
3973.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
但是我們聽聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
3973.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
3975.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
那個行政部門的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
3975.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
3977.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
來來來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
3977.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
3979.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
那個雅玲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
3979.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
3981.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
我想就是說因為其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
3981.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
3983.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
剛剛大家都講了非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
3983.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
3985.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
我們有很多採驗的方式喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
3985.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
3987.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
但是還是要回溯到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
3987.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
3989.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
初驗我們要追求時溯時效性嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
3989.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
3991.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
這是第一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
3991.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
3993.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
第二個就是說其實因為我之前也有關心到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
3993.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
3995.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
我們在唾液有一些偽陽性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
3995.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
3997.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
那個陳召治委員、翁曉遠委員跟林茜琪委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
3997.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
3999.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
也有這樣子的一個附帶決議喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
3999.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4001.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
就是避免說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
4001.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
4003.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
他如果最後被證明的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
4003.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4005.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
我們應該要有一些相關的救濟制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4005.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4007.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
所以我今天在希望大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
4007.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4009.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
再思考一下喔就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
4009.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
4011.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
也可能待會租管機關可以來說明喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
4011.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4013.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
就是說如果我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
4013.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4015.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
增加了不管是血液 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
4015.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4017.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
因為也有委員提出血液 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
4017.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4019.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
那這個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4019.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4021.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
就會變成更更冗長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4021.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4023.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
那更冗長的時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4023.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4025.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
那他這個保管車輛、吊扣、駕照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4025.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4027.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
的這個時間可能也就會更冗長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4027.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4029.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
那會不會影響到人民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
4029.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4031.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
如果他是一個無辜的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4031.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4033.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
他會不會影響到他的生計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4033.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
4035.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
我覺得這個也是大家要來考量的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4035.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4037.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
因為以光現在唾液來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
4037.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4039.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
他們就已經要等到將近半個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
4039.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
4041.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
甚至一個月的時間了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
4041.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
4043.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
那如果要再增加這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
4042.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
4044.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
那麼多可能要更花時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
4044.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
4046.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
我不太確定血液跟毛髮是不是會更快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
4046.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
4048.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
還是怎麼樣這個可能待會也可以請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
4048.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
4050.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
這個相關機關再說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
4050.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
4052.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
為什麼我們在這麼多的選擇裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
4052.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
4054.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
我們只增加了唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
4054.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
4056.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
4056.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
4058.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
那法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
4058.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
4060.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
來黃市長這個比較專業的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
4060.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
4062.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
今天大家每一個委員都有所準備而來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
4062.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
4064.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
但是這種專業的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
4064.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
4066.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
我們最後還是會比較尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
4066.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
4068.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
這個行政部門的專業意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
4068.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
4070.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
請來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
4070.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
4072.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
那曹委各位委員大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
4072.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
4074.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
那首先要跟各位報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
4074.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
4076.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
我們這條要處理的其實是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
4076.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
4078.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
行政上的管理跟行政上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
4078.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
4080.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
預防的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
4080.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
4082.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
各位委員不可以從這個犯罪偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
4082.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
4084.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
的角度去處罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
4084.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
4086.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
犯罪偵查如果它是一個鑑定的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
4086.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
4088.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
剛剛委員講的完全同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
4088.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
4090.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
它必須要多元它必須要確效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
4090.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
4092.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
它必須要有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
4092.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
4094.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
出塞復塞一大堆程序保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
4094.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
4096.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
但這條目的不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
4096.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
4098.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
這條目的它是行政管理跟行政預防 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
4098.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
4100.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
所以各位委員看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
4100.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
4102.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
它的行政條文它的主體是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
4102.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
4104.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
它其實採用的主體是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
4104.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
4106.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
4106.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
4108.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
換句話說不是我們一般的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
4108.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
4110.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
執法人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
4110.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
4112.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
中華民國現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
4112.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
4114.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
中華民國十個行政部門的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
4114.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
4116.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
行政人員他要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
4116.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
4118.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
負責採驗他根本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4118.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
4120.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
沒有受過專業的偵查訓練的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
4120.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4122.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
去採驗第一個他不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
4122.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
4124.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
偵查人員去採驗他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
4124.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
4126.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
行政人員去採驗第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
4126.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4128.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
他所採驗的對象是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
4128.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
4130.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
犯罪偵查的對象是犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
4130.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4132.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
嫌疑人他在訴訟法上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
4132.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
4134.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
他有一定忍受的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
4134.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
4136.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
但是這個這個採驗的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
4136.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4138.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
是中華民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
4138.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
4140.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
公務員他有可能是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
4141.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4143.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
他的主管事業是基於公共安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
4143.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4145.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
比如說開飛機的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4145.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4147.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
開捷運的開火車的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4147.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4149.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
他本身是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
4149.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4151.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
因為他的業務屬性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
4151.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
4153.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
或者他本身可能是接觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
4153.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
4155.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
毒品的業務從業人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
4155.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
4157.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
毒品的保管庫的公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4157.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4159.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
我們的調查人員我們警察人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4159.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4161.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
所以他本身不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4161.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
4163.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
在犯罪只是基於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4163.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
4165.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
公共安全的目的基於行政管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4165.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4167.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
的目的我們要事先 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4167.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4169.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
是基於社會防衛的角度來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
4169.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
4171.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
我們要事先的預防 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
4171.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
4173.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
所以我們對這些人我們要採取 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
4173.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4175.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
這麼強大強度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
4175.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
4177.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
這一個檢驗方法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
4177.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
4179.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
這個要請各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
4179.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
4181.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
這個考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
4181.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
4183.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
第二點各位委員一直在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
4183.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
4185.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
為什麼只有尿液為什麼只有唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4185.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
4187.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
因為他的快速性便利性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4187.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4189.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
我們現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4189.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4191.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
唾液他有快篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4191.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4193.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
尿液也有快篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4193.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4195.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
所以我們一般的行政人員透過快篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4195.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4197.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
像我們COVID-19一樣兩條線 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4197.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4199.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
就是有陽性了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4199.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4201.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
他馬上即時就可以知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4201.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4203.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
我們一般的行政人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4203.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4205.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
他就可以知道快篩的結果是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4205.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4207.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
我們現在除了尿液 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4207.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
4209.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
除了唾液之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
4209.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4211.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
我們並沒有毛髮的快篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4211.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4213.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
我們也沒有血液的快篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
4213.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
4215.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
所以血液它是必須要進入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
4215.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4217.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
一個侵入性的採取 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
4217.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
4219.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
才有辦法可以檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
4220.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4222.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
毛髮沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
4222.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4224.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
也許不會被歸類成侵入性的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
4224.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4226.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
但是毛髮他是要去檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
4226.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4228.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
他要檢對一般民眾的人格權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
4228.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
4230.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
人格就是產生很大的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
4233.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
4235.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
這個對象是用對象包括學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
4235.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
4237.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
包括我們的警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
4237.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
4239.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
包括普羅的一般的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
4239.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
4241.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
4241.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4243.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
我們就去採他的毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
4243.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
4245.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
對這個公務員的人格權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
4245.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
4247.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
是某個程度上是沒有獲得一個足夠的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
4247.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
4249.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
所以這部分我要跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
4249.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
4251.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
第三點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
4251.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4253.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
我們這個辦法其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4253.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4255.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
各位去看條文的後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
4255.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4257.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
如果這個公務員不遵守的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4257.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4259.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
另外還有一個附帶的效果是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4259.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4261.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
可以拘束他的身體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4261.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4263.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
對象看如果我們要採他毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4263.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4265.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
他不願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4265.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4267.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
或怎麼樣我們是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4267.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4269.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
拘束他的身體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4269.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4271.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
所以我們為什麼不願意把這個範圍擴這麼大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4271.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4273.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
因為他會對我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4274.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4276.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4276.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4278.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
所監督的人員的人身自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4278.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4280.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
會產生連動的效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4280.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4282.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
這我會跟各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4282.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4284.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
第四點 剛剛翁委員有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4284.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4286.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
就是說我用毛髮我可以知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4286.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4288.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
他更久之前他有沒有使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4288.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4290.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
毒品來避免這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4290.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4292.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
空窗 但我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4292.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4294.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
這個法的立法目的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4294.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4296.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
是要即時性的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4296.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4298.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
譬如說這個人即將要去開飛機了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4298.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4300.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
他即將要開捷運了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4300.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4302.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
他即將開火車了 我要馬上知道他有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4302.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4304.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
使用毒品 我要知道他現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4304.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4306.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
24小時前有沒有使用毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4306.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4308.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
他有危險性我就不准他去開車開飛機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4309.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4311.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
我不需要知道他6個月前有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4311.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4313.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
使用毒品 那是另外犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4313.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4315.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
去偵查的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4315.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4317.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
而不是我這個法現實立即要處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4317.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4319.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
我現實立即要處理就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4319.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4321.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
基於公共安全要不要馬上的禁止他去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4321.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4323.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
開飛機 禁止他去開捷運 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4323.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4325.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
禁止他去開火車 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4325.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4327.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
這個法的目的 所以我一再 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4327.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4329.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
跟各位委員報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4331.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4333.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
這個法的立法目的不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4333.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4335.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
有啦 大家聽到有啦 大家聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4335.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4337.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
你這個說明很好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4337.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4339.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
就是說我們也聽聽行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4339.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
4341.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
像譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4341.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4343.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
市長我問你開飛機的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4343.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4345.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
誰要給他下令 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4345.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4347.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
開捷運的台北市捷運公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
4347.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4349.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
捷運公司的誰就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4349.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4351.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
台北市政府當然可以啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4351.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4353.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
但是因為他是民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4353.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4355.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
他又是公司耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4355.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4357.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
你如果捷運公車 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
4357.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4359.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
捷運的司機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4359.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4361.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
公車的司機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4361.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4363.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
要進行採測採驗的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4363.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4365.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
出院要比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4365.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4367.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
迅速及時性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4367.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4369.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
那什麼機關要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4369.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4371.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
行政部門 什麼要去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4371.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4373.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
因為這個法授權訂了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4373.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4375.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
特定人員採驗辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4375.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4377.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
採驗辦法裡面只有列出十種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4377.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4379.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
目前為止大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4379.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4381.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
十個部會 剛才委員提到就交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4381.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4383.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4383.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4385.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
交通部各自主管按照他各自的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4385.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
4387.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
屬性 他所列他主要採取 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
4387.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
4389.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
地方機關耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
4389.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
4391.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
地方機關 但是你剛才說到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
4391.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
4393.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
你剛才說到捷運的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
4393.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
4395.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
當然是中央機關是台北的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
4396.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
4398.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
交通部啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
4398.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
4400.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
各部會自己內部怎麼分公司各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
4400.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
4402.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
就我們這個副表包括內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
4402.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
4404.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
國防部 交易部 法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
4404.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
4406.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
經濟部 交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
4406.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
4408.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
包括衛生福利部 海洋委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
4408.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
4410.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
包括財政部 包括國安局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
4410.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
4412.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
4412.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
4414.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
其實我們委員其實這樣子啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
4414.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
4416.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
我們司法法治委員會最容易最好溝通的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
4416.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
4418.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
他確實他這個三十三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
4418.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
4420.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
是要講的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
4420.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
4422.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
我要即時性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
4422.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
4424.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
我一定要用最快的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
4424.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
4426.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
跟你講的那個毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
4426.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
4428.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
好像一個錄影帶的倒帶一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
4428.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
4430.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
我從這個人吸毒以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
4430.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
4432.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
他進入血液 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
4432.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
4434.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
然後血液會到這個整個毛髮裡面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
4434.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
4436.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
殘留 我要追蹤你前半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
4436.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
4438.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
確實那個從毛髮來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
4438.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
4440.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
用的話那個確實是非常有用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
4440.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
4442.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
可是他現在規範的不是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
4442.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
4444.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
他規範的那個不是犯罪偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
4444.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
4446.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
我們現在三十三條就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
4446.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
4448.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
要讓他快速 要用什麼比較快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
4448.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
4450.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
看一看 開始有那麼低 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
4450.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
4452.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
所以他們今天要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
4452.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
4454.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
就請這邊提出這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
4454.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
4456.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
是不是大家也可以來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
4456.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
4458.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
來 再聽聽你們的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
4458.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
4460.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
是 因為我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
4460.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
4462.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
我想脫衣我是絕對支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
4462.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
4464.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
那現在的話因為有些問題我還是想釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
4464.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
4466.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
第一個就是說針對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
4466.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
4468.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
剛剛講的你們那個篩檢的次數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
4468.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
4470.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
還有期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
4470.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
4472.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
是多久會篩檢一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
4472.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
4474.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
然後呢你們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
4474.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
4476.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
對於像是剛剛講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
4476.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
4478.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
不管是開飛機啦 或者說是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
4478.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
4480.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
捷運的司機或是特定機關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
4480.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
4482.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
他可能會接觸到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
4482.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
4484.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
毒品的相關的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
4484.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
4486.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
他們是一開始在擔任這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
4486.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
4488.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
職務的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
4488.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
4490.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
就做篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
4490.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
4492.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
之後是每一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
4492.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
4494.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
還是每一天都要做篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
4494.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
4496.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
我現在講的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
4496.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
4498.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
因為不管是脫衣或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
4498.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
4500.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
尿衣他基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
4500.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
4502.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
他大概最多就三天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
4502.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
4504.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
三天他可能他的這個毒性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
4504.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
4506.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
就過了 我如果是一個管理人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
4506.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
4508.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
我其實是很容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
4508.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
4510.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
來規避你們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
4510.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
4512.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
篩檢的這個情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
4512.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
4514.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
也就是說我可能要開飛機之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
4514.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
4516.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
我三天之前我就先不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
4516.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
4518.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
使用這個毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
4518.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
4520.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
那你就採驗不到啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
4520.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
4522.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
但是對毛髮來講他有個好處就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
4522.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
4524.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
他至少可以知道說這個人是不是曾經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
4524.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
4526.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
有過這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
4526.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
4528.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
吸毒的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
4528.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
4530.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
這樣紀錄 那麼所以如果他在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
4530.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
4532.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
一開始要擔任這個職務的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
4532.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
4534.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
他曾經有過這樣的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
4534.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
4536.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
那當然就要審慎考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
4536.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
4538.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
要不要聘他來當捷運的司機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
4538.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
4540.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
或是要不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
4540.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
4542.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
他可以當這個開飛機的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
4542.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
4544.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
這個駕駛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
4544.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
4546.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
當飛機的這個機師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
4546.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
4548.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
所以我的想法是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
4548.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
4550.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
今天我們其實多一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
4551.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
4553.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
方法只是給 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
4553.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
4555.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
這個主管機關給現在機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
4555.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
4557.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
多一個選項而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
4557.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
4559.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
事實上他們因為所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
4559.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
4561.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
辦法都是你們自己可以去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
4561.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
4563.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
去制定的未來就是說我可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
4563.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
4565.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
先優先採取用尿液的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
4565.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
4567.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
檢驗用唾液的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
4567.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
4569.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
檢驗但是如果說用尿液跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
4569.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
4571.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
唾液檢驗之後還是發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
4571.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
4573.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
說這個人怪怪的其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
4573.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
4575.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
有的時候看他好像走路不太 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
4575.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
4577.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
穩或是說他精神有點恍惚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
4577.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
4579.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
這時候其實就可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
4579.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
4581.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
毛髮來檢測因為毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
4581.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
4583.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
他基本上可以從最短的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
4583.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
4585.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
然後到最長的時間他大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
4585.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
4587.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
都可以檢測的出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
4587.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
4589.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
所以我不太了解就是說今天我們其實好意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
4589.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
4591.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
就是希望給主管機關多一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
4591.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
4593.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
可以去檢查的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
4595.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
4597.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
那至於怎麼樣的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
4597.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
4599.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
運用你們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
4599.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
4601.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
檢驗的手段就是你們自己可以決定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
4601.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
4603.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
但是我不太知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
4603.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
4605.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
為什麼法務部一直很排斥 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
4605.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
4607.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
把毛髮然後針定為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
4608.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
4610.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
這個檢驗的手段之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
4612.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
4614.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
可以先回答就是你們檢驗次數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
4614.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
4616.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
還有平常的檢驗的這個期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
4618.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
4620.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
4620.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
4622.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
次長再來回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
4622.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
4624.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
三條三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
4624.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
4626.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
都總共23案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
4626.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
4628.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
3案有提到毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
4628.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
4630.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
那當然翁委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
4630.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
4632.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
提到那個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
4632.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
4634.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
那確實是屬於犯罪偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
4634.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
4636.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
那次長講的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
4636.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
4638.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
這個出院的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
4638.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
4640.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
是要那種即時性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
4640.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
4642.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
所以我多一個拖曳進來就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
4642.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
4644.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
那問題是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
4644.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
4646.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
那翁委員的講法似乎是在講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
4646.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
4648.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
你毒品危害防治條例裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
4648.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
4650.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
那個主管機關我被發現的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
4652.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
4654.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
我用其他的方式來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
4654.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
4656.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
我沒一定單純要處理即時性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
4656.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
4658.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
我可能也會認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
4658.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
4660.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
我所受我監督的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
4660.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
4662.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
他到底是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
4662.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
4664.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
過去他如果也有施用毒品的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
4664.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
4666.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
他確實啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
4666.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
4668.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
你就算是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
4668.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
4670.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
要針對這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
4670.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
4672.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
駕駛人員不管是航空 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
4672.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
4674.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
捷運或者說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
4674.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
4676.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
反正就是動力的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
4676.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
4678.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
這個人來塞出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
4678.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
4680.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
他也有這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
4680.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
4682.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
用毒品的一個習慣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
4682.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
4684.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
這未必屬於犯罪偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
4684.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
4686.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
他讓我塞出來以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
4686.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
4688.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
我覺得這個人都不適宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
4688.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
4690.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
來當這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
4690.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
4692.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
駕駛人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
4692.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
4694.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
問題在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
4694.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
4696.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
那請聽起來有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
4696.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
4698.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
那請次長再回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
4698.96 |
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4700.96 |
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好 跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
4700.96 |
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4702.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
那我應該提到這個篩檢的頻度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
4702.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
4704.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
頻率的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
4704.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
4706.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
其實我們的這個法通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
4706.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
4708.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
這個法的授權辦法其實有定相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
4708.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
4710.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
包括定期的篩檢 |
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4710.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
4712.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
跟不定期的篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
4712.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
4714.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
那授權在授權各目的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
4714.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
4716.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
我剛講有十個目的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
4716.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
4718.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
各自在計定怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
4718.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
4720.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
更細部的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
4720.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
4722.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
事務性的篩檢方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
4722.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
4724.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
那這個辦法裡面除了定期篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
4724.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
4726.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
還有不定期的篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
4726.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
4728.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
什麼叫不定期篩檢包括受僱篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
4728.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
4730.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
包括懷疑檢驗意外檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
4730.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
4732.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
隨機檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
4732.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
4734.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
很多 換句話就是說主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
4734.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
4736.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
他可以各自 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
4736.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
4738.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
行政目的他可以做相關的頻度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
4738.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
4740.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
的這個篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
4740.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
4742.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
所以剛委員所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
4742.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
4744.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
除了定期之外還有不定期還有各種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
4744.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
4746.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
狀況他都可以篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
4746.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
4748.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
主管機關都可以篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
4748.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
4750.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
舉個例子譬如說交通部或內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
4750.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
4752.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
他們現在的辦法是怎麼定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
4752.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
4754.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
因為我們其實沒有看到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
4754.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
4756.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
更細緻的檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
4756.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
4758.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
的作業辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
4758.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
4760.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
他們是每一個禮拜到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
4760.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
4762.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
檢查一次還是他們是上飛機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
4762.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
4764.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
還是就是要開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
4764.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
4766.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
執行他們工作之前就要檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
4766.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
4768.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
因為我是認為說這個剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
4768.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
4770.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
其實次長的這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
4770.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
4772.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
說法有些地方是我不太能接受的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
4772.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
4774.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
你說剪頭髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
4774.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
4776.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
就是一種強制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
4776.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
4778.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
會侵害到個人的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
4778.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
4780.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
尊嚴會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
4780.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
4782.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
有這個侵害人格權之餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
4782.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
4784.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
但你說如果說今天去尿解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
4784.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
4786.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
也是一樣啊如果當事人他就 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
4786.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
4788.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
不願意尿解或他不願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
4788.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
4790.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
把他嘴巴張開去進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
4790.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
4792.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
脫衣的篩檢這就同樣是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
4792.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
4794.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
侵害個人的人格權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
4794.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
4796.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
所以其實如果說對我一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
4796.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
4798.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
假設我今天我是相關的工作人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
4798.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
4800.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
我今天要被檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
4800.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
4802.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
我寧可就說你就幫我反正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
4802.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
4804.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
女生頭髮長我就剪個幾根 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
4804.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
4806.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
你不可能剪一搓吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
4806.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
4808.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
對不對他就剪個幾根頭髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
4808.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
4810.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
就可以去檢驗了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
4810.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
4812.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
對就這個部分來講其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
4812.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
4814.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
剛剛部長的說法其實不太能說服我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
4814.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
4816.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
抱歉我想補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
4816.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
4818.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
就是說因為這裡面還有包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
4818.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
4820.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
到學校的學生對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
4820.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
4822.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
我剛剛聽起來是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
4822.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
4824.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
那我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
4825.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
4827.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
是有學生嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
4827.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
4829.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
因為主管機關所監督之特定人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
4829.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
4831.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
這個有包含到學生嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
4832.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
4834.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
對啊因為有學生那我覺得這東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
4834.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
4836.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
如果去增加毛髮的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
4836.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
4838.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
我自己會擔心這個是現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
4838.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
4840.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
在執行面會造成老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
4840.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
4842.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
的困難喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
4842.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
4844.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
因為這個是過去我們之所以法禁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
4844.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
4846.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
的時候有很多的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
4846.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
4848.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
其實都會可能都有那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
4848.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
4850.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
經驗那所以大家其實對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
4850.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
4852.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
自己的毛髮屬於自己個人的形象 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
4852.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
4854.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
在現在的年輕世代是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
4854.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
4856.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
更根深蒂固的所以我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
4856.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
4858.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
如果今天要拓展這件事情的話等於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
4858.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
4860.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
我們開放了這樣子的授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
4860.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
4862.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
我擔心這會造成現場的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
4862.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
4864.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
青師生的衝突會更加劇烈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
4864.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
4866.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
所以我這個意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
4866.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
4868.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
我也想要聽聽看這個法務部的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
4868.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
4870.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
是不是有考量到這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
4870.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
4872.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
4873.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
4875.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
好那跟我們報告了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
4875.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
4877.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
無論是採取妙意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
4877.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
4879.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
脫意或毛髮或血液當然對人生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
4879.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
4881.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
自以為人格權都會產生干預 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
4881.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
4883.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
這是無庸置疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
4882.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
4884.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
所以我們必須要法律規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
4884.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
4886.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
所以我們今天必須要有法律的授權我們才可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
4886.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
4888.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
只是說各種法律的干預 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
4888.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
4890.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
人身自由的干預 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
4890.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
4892.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
它有不同的強度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
4892.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
4894.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
行政上目的的強度還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
4894.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
4896.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
犯罪偵查的強度 |
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4896.81 |
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我們今天就行政目的的強度我們開放 |
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4898.81 |
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4900.81 |
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妙意跟脫意我覺得這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
4900.81 |
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4902.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
這個對人生 |
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4902.81 |
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4904.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
因為就法律授權我們就允許 |
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4904.81 |
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4906.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
但是對毛髮各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
4906.81 |
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4908.81 |
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我們毛髮要做 |
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4908.81 |
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4910.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
鑑定我們刑訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
4910.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
4912.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
法律訴訟法205條之二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
4912.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
4914.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
他必須要是逮捕的現行犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
4914.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
4916.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
是把警察才可以採他的毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
4918.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
4920.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
那你如果說是要學藝的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
4920.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
4922.65 |
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要205之一要檢察官的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
4922.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
4924.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
令狀許可法官的令狀許可 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
4924.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
4926.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
才可以進入採毛髮才學藝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
4926.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
4928.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
所以他是不同的人格權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
4928.65 |
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4930.65 |
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或這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
4930.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
4932.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
這個人身自由權的干預 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
4932.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
4934.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
他要法律做不同的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
4935.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
4937.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
所以我們今天為什麼要 |
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4937.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
4939.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
要進入大院同意他的確會造成人格的侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
4939.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
4941.11 |
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沒有錯即使是妙意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
4941.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
4943.11 |
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即使是脫意都會啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
4943.34 |
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4945.34 |
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所以才需要法律來規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
4945.34 |
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4947.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
這跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
4947.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
4949.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
另外剛剛這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
4949.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
4951.34 |
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委員有提到的確教育部剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
4951.34 |
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4953.34 |
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所管理的範圍他就包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
4953.34 |
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4955.34 |
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學生他最主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
4955.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
4957.34 |
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大眾都是學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
4957.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
4959.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
大眾都是學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
4959.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
4961.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
所以說我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
4961.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
4963.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
就是說如果說委員當天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
4963.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
4965.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
提到可以毛髮多一個選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
4965.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
4967.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
沒什麼不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
4967.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
4969.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
除了我剛剛講的人格權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
4969.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
4971.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
的這個一例之外另外就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
4971.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
4973.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
讓學生選擇的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
4973.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
4975.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
各位就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
4974.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
4976.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
這毛髮的鑑定結果也許 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
4976.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
4978.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
要半個月一個月後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
4978.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
4980.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
才會結果出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
4980.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
4982.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
那我們當下要不要認定他有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
4982.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
4984.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
使用毒品我其實不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
4984.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
4986.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
我其實不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
4986.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
4988.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
我必須要等一個月後等半個月後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
4988.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
4990.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
甚至等兩個月後才知道他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
4990.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
4992.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
到底有沒有使用毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
4992.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
4994.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
他就會喪失這個法定的立法目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
4996.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
4998.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
4998.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5000.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
我想講的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5000.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5002.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
其實我們現在講的所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
5002.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5004.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
檢驗手段如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5004.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5006.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
當事人他拒絕接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5006.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5008.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
檢驗那肯定你們就會進入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5008.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5010.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
下一個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5010.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5012.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
就是要去拘提要去強制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5012.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5014.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
他的人身自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
5014.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
5016.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
強制要去驗尿強制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
5016.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
5018.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
他嘴巴要張開接受這個唾液的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
5018.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
5020.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
篩檢那麼我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
5020.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
5022.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
剛剛這個次長講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
5022.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
5024.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
就是對於這個人格權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
5024.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
5026.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
或是人身自由的拘束的強度來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
5026.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
5028.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
我反而是跟次長有不同的見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
5030.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
5032.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
事實上你說頭髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
5032.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
5034.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
這個把他抱起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
5034.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
5036.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
稍微剪一下頭髮假設他不願意的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
5036.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
5038.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
他不願意就是用頭髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
5038.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
5040.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
去篩檢的話那基本上我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
5040.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
5042.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
那個侵入性反而是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
5042.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
5044.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
不是很嚴重如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
5044.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
5046.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
今天是拒絕尿檢的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
5046.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
5048.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
待會可以請次長說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
5048.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
5050.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
如果拒絕尿檢你們是怎麼樣的去檢驗法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
5051.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
5053.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
更何況就是說現在毛髮的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
5053.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
5055.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
檢驗他並不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
5055.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
5057.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
像您講的要這麼長的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
5057.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5059.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
尿液的一般的篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5059.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5061.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
是當場就可以看得到的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5061.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5063.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
應該也不是吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5063.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5065.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
應該也是要送回實驗室 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5065.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5067.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
可能幾天之後也許才看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5067.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5069.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
其實毛髮的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
5069.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
5071.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
也是一樣今天如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5071.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5073.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
我們法律訂立下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5073.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5075.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
然後未來可以有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5075.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5077.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
多一個檢測的手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5077.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5079.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
那我想相關的實驗室他們量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5079.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5081.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
都會增加甚至法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5081.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5083.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
或是調查局刑事警察局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5083.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5085.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
你們認為說應該要提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5085.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5087.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
量能的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5087.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5089.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
或者是相關檢驗設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5089.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5091.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
本行在這邊都支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5091.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
5093.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
我想講的就是說因為今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5093.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5095.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
這是一個行政管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5095.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5097.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
就是因為行政管理其實對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5097.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5099.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
就是受檢查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5099.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5101.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
相關的不管是公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5101.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5103.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
還有一般的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5103.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
5105.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
跟一般的這個員工等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5105.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5107.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
那麼其實就讓他們覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5107.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
5109.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
他們怎麼樣的檢查是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5109.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5111.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
很方便而且很快速 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5111.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5113.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
然後至於就是說你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5113.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5115.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
檢查是時間的長短這是回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5115.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5117.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
主管機關的事情可是如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5117.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5119.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
因為一定要去驗尿 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5119.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5121.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
然後要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5121.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5123.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
做唾液唾液當然他比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5123.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5125.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
快速可是他的偽陽性很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5125.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5127.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
他的偽陽性很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5127.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5129.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
這也跟這個唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5129.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5131.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
篩檢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5131.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5133.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
他的篩檢劑的品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5133.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5135.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
的高低甚至跟價格的高低都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5135.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5137.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
關係對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5137.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5139.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
因此就是說今天其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5139.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5141.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
多一個毛法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5141.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5143.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
我們明定在法律裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5143.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5145.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
然後讓主管機關多一項選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5145.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5147.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
我認為其實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5147.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5149.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
對於防治 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5149.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5151.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
毒品危害其實有很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5151.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5153.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
幫忙的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5153.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5155.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
我講的其實現在也不只是毛法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5155.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5157.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
剛剛周偉也有說嘛連什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5157.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5159.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
漢裔啊還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5159.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5161.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
裔啦紅魔啦都有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5161.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5163.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
我懂翁委員的翁周偉的意思啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5163.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5165.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
我不想插嘴啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5165.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5167.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
但是我再提醒一下就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5167.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5169.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
其實他這個爭點在什麼地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5169.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5171.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
爭點就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5171.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5173.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
我們要不要授權到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5173.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5175.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
連毛法都可以啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5175.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5177.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
你真的會跟人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5177.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5179.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
連毛法的檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5179.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5181.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
連毛法的檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5181.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5183.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
我懂翁周偉的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5183.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5185.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
你的意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5185.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5187.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
我給你行政部門我給你一個武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5187.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5189.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
你的問題在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5189.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5191.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
可是這個我很擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5191.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5193.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
你去看看我們喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5193.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5195.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
我們通過了法令喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5196.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5198.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
我們對基層員警 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5198.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5200.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
比較不好意思啦但是就有少數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5200.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5202.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
你常常你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5202.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5204.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
攔檢酒測攔檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5204.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
5206.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
他就無差別每一步給你攔下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
5206.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
5208.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
你知道嗎你很想跟他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
5208.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
5210.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
你是在你比較有這麼大的權限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
5210.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
5212.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
你怎麼可以整條路的車子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
5212.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
5214.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
全部攔下來大家塞成一團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
5214.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
5216.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
但也不是說我警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
5216.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
5218.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
有權限我們授予他權限啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
5218.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
5220.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
我要酒測啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
5220.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
5222.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
有的人就是我就是警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
5222.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
5224.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
每次我就炸下來他沒有那種權限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
5224.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
5226.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
你知道嗎你要一個合理性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
5226.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
5228.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
所以我被我已經在當台北市議員的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
5230.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
5234.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
我都問他你平常會不會把我炸下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
5235.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
5237.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
我又怕人家說我當議員好像我在耍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
5237.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
5239.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
耍那種威風 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
5239.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
5241.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
其實我不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
5241.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
5243.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
我就說你憑什麼把我攔下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
5243.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
5245.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
法律的規定我就問他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
5245.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
5247.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
你麻煩告訴我法律規定在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
5247.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
5249.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
不然你是要怎樣啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
5249.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
5251.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
很麻煩你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
5251.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
5253.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
他就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
5254.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
5256.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
沒有節制性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
5256.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
5258.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
其實警察是不能這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
5258.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
5260.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
你要攔檢你要看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
5260.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
5262.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
你到底有沒有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
5262.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
5264.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
我有蛇形沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
5264.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
5266.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
或是我我剛問炸下來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
5266.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
5268.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
我是不是喝酒有酒味 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
5268.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
5270.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
那不是每一步全部給你攔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
5270.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
5272.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
就看他心情這也不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
5272.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
5274.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
那我擔心的是說你這個提案出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
5274.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
5276.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
因為他這一條33條要處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
5276.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
5278.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
院板的部分為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
5278.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
5280.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
20幾個條板本只有3個有毛髮的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
5280.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
5282.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
我相信大家也有考慮到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
5282.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
5284.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
要不要授權到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
5284.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
5286.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
你說毛髮的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
5286.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
5288.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
那真的是屬於犯罪偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
5288.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
5290.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
一般你說行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
5290.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
5292.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
要把陳昭司給你攔一支頭髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
5292.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
5294.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
敢開什麼玩笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
5294.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
5296.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
他還可以來一支頭髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
5296.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
5298.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
說你可能有吸毒喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
5298.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
5300.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
你可能在那邊噴的噴的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
5300.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
5302.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
沒辦法你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
5302.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
5304.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
我自己扔給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
5304.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
5306.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
當事人願意沒話講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
5306.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
5308.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
我的意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
5308.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
5310.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
這個強度有涉及到人身的一個侵害的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
5310.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
5312.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
也請考慮一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
5312.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
5314.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
但提供這個見解很好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
5314.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
5316.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
我這一次喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
5316.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
5318.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
我是紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
5317.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
5319.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
對黃市長的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
5319.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
5321.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
他的見解我不一定每次都會遵照他的意識啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
5321.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
5323.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
那如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
5323.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
5325.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
覺得他這一次講的是都很合理啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
5325.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
5327.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
那是不是這個採願板啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
5327.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
5329.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
5329.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
5331.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
沒關係沒關係你盡量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
5331.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
5333.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
我盡量給你表達你的意見啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
5333.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
5335.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
我想要再聽一看教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
5335.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
5337.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
因為今天教育部也有來嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
5337.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
5339.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
就是因為我剛剛擔心的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
5339.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
5341.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
這個在如果我們授權這件事情的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
5341.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
5343.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
會不會在現場上面造成什麼樣子的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
5343.92 |
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5345.92 |
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是不是可以請教育部 |
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5346.54 |
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5348.54 |
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享受一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
5349.47 |
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5351.47 |
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來要不要發揮一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
5352.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
5354.38 |
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專門委員今天有來嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
5354.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
5356.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
但是我怕你不知道這是不是你的專長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
5356.38 |
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5358.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
何淑瑜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
5359.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
5361.41 |
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我來吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
5363.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
5365.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
來上阿桃酸梨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
5367.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
5369.26 |
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那是考機位是咧是咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
5369.26 |
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5371.26 |
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所以針對這個教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
5373.93 |
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5375.93 |
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你這個他也不一定有專人 |
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5375.93 |
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5377.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
在這裡教育部他也不一定說得出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
5378.53 |
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5380.53 |
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請問一下經濟部嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
5380.53 |
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5382.53 |
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經濟部是不是也是也被指定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
5382.53 |
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5384.53 |
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就是要針對檢查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
5384.53 |
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5386.53 |
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是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
5386.53 |
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5388.53 |
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他那是考機法的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
5388.53 |
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5390.53 |
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所以針對毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
5390.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
5392.53 |
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經濟部要請有哪些單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
5392.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
5394.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
今天是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
5394.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
5396.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
法務部啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
5396.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
5398.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
內政部啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
5398.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
5400.3 |
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衛福部啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
5400.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
5402.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
國防部啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
5403.52 |
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5405.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
結局系耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
5405.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
5407.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
那個獨委的是這四個單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
5407.68 |
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5409.68 |
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跟經濟部沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
5437.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
5439.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
在整個的行政管理的檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
5439.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
5441.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
措施方面如果能夠讓大家覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
5441.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
5443.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
更方便然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
5443.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
5445.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
更迅速更有效率我不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
5445.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
5447.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
這有什麼不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
5447.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
5449.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
部長剛次長一直講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
5449.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
5451.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
會涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
5451.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
5453.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
人格權人身自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
5453.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
5455.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
的一個高強度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
5455.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
5457.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
的一個侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
5457.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
5459.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
我真的我的整個想法是跟你是不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
5459.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
5461.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
所以我要請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
5461.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
5463.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
剛次長沒有回答我如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
5463.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
5465.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
今天被管理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
5465.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
5467.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
這個公務員他拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
5467.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
5469.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
驗尿說你們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
5470.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
5472.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
你們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
5472.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
5474.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
如果拒絕接受唾液篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
5474.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
5476.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
你們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
5478.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
5480.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
然後如果說一個聰明的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
5480.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
5482.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
這個公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
5482.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
5484.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
他曉得你這個驗的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
5484.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
5486.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
他可以規避 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
5489.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
5491.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
5490.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
5492.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
透過尿液的排出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
5492.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
5494.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
大概就差不多72小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
5496.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
5498.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
如果說你這個人拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
5498.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
5500.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
你這個人拒絕的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
5500.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
5502.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
可能更快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
5499.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
5501.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
他可能三天四天前他就先不碰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
5501.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
5503.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
他就一直忍著忍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
5503.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
5505.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
忍到你們檢查完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
5505.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
5507.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
然後他才做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
5506.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
5508.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
然後你剛講的懷疑的檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
5508.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
5510.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
5510.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
5512.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
所以如果說你們未來可以在這幾種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
5512.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
5514.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
不同的方式裡面你們可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
5514.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
5516.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
就是有一個優先順序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
5516.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
5518.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
而且對於毛髮的檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
5518.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
5520.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
你們認為說假設他是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
5520.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
5522.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
在這三個手段裡面他是個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
5522.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
5524.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
最後的手段我前面兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
5524.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
5526.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
都聽不通的時候我可以用第三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
5526.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
5528.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
5528.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
5530.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
5529.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
5531.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
這有什麼不好呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
5531.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
5533.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
我們大家基本上都希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
5533.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
5535.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
尤其是執法的公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
5535.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
5537.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
他不要去碰毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
5537.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
5539.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
可是你們現在這個做法會讓我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
5539.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
5541.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
某種程度來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
5541.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
5543.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
其實你們就告訴這些執法公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
5543.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
5545.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
我如果說我真的有這樣的一個情況的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
5545.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
5547.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
我可以透過很多方式去規避 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
5547.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
5549.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
透過毛髮檢驗至少可以知道說他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
5549.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
5551.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
這幾天或他過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
5551.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
5553.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
一兩個月或他更早之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
5553.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
5555.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
他有沒有吸毒過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
5555.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
5557.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
他如果有吸毒過那根本不適合擔任這種重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
5557.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
5559.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
公務去執行這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
5559.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
5561.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
重要的公務手段去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
5561.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
5563.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
這些重要的這個職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
5563.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
5565.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
這個是我的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
5567.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
5571.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
這個開始有人權的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
5571.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
5573.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
確實有比例原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
5573.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
5575.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
是不是要到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
5575.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
5577.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
毛髮的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
5577.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
5579.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
那涉及到你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
5579.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
5581.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
行政你這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
5581.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
5583.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
因為這個定義是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
5583.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
5585.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
怎麼說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
5585.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
5587.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
學者專家我有看過他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
5587.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
5589.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
大家的一個意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
5589.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
5591.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
就是說侵害本來就是要採 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
5591.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
5593.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
比較最小的那你33條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
5593.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
5595.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
目的確實你是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
5595.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
5597.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
防治特定人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
5597.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
5599.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
比如說軍人、書記 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
5599.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
5601.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
校園特定對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
5601.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
5603.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
當然就是說是在看說他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
5603.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
5605.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
這個毒品氾濫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
5605.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
5607.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
或者影響植物安全的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
5607.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
5609.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
你說去給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
5609.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
5611.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
強制採驗毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
5611.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
5613.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
這就是你譬如說我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
5613.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
5615.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
任職以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
5616.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
5618.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
我一個拜訪可以來任職 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
5618.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
5620.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
你如果給我採毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
5620.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
5622.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
這個等同追蹤到我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
5622.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
5624.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
還未就職之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
5625.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
5627.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
的前面你這個行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
5627.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
5629.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
到底有沒有這個權限的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
5629.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
5631.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
所以會有個人隱私 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
5631.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
5633.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
我就看法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
5633.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
5635.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
跟學者專家這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
5635.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
5637.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
部分我是看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
5637.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
5639.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
法務部我懂你的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
5639.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
5641.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
這一次很不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
5641.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
5643.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
就是說行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
5643.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
5645.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
尤其是法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
5645.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
5647.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
他認為這個會有侵害到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
5647.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
5649.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
人權的部分這個我反而 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
5649.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
5651.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
會覺得他們是不簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
5651.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
5653.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
反而是不簡單不然行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
5653.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
5655.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
法務部的立場你給我更多的武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
5655.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
5657.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
我會更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
5657.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
5659.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
法務部門讓人家覺得他們只需要武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
5659.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
5661.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
人權好像就比較沒有那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
5661.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
5663.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
的注重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
5663.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
5665.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
這一次整個修法的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
5665.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
5667.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
我看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
5668.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
5670.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
剛剛次長有講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
5670.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
5672.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
法院的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
5672.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
5674.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
行政監控跟刑事偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
5674.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
5676.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
其實真的確實是不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
5676.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
5678.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
是不是大家可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
5678.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
5680.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
考慮一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
5680.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
5682.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
在司法事務裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
5682.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
5684.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
明確的犯罪罪嫌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
5684.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
5686.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
刑事訴訟法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
5686.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
5688.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
本來就有規定來進行刑事上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
5688.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
5690.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
毛髮的一個檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
5690.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
5692.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
你33條這是一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
5692.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
5694.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
例行性無差別的行政的抽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
5694.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
5696.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
你要強制到連 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
5696.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
5698.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
毛髮都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
5698.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
5700.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
我反而會覺得確實要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
5700.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
5702.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
法官保留跟嚴格的一個程序保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
5702.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
5704.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
我比較贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
5704.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
5706.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
法務部這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
5706.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
5708.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
看法啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
5708.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
5710.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
不知道 黃委員這樣可以說服你買人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
5711.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
5713.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
我還想聽聽看次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
5713.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
5715.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
對於拒絕尿檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
5715.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
5717.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
拒絕唾液篩檢的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
5717.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
5719.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
你們的執行方式是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
5719.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
5721.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
可不可以請你講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
5721.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
5723.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
整個流程好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
5723.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
5725.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
又可以讓我們知道到底他侵害人格的強度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
5725.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
5727.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
跟這個去檢頭法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
5727.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
5729.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
的強度是哪一個比較強 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
5729.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
5731.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
而且我剛剛講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
5731.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
5733.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
他除了出任可能需要做檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
5733.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
5735.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
之後你隨便舉一個單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
5735.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
5737.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
譬如說交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
5737.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
5739.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
你們現在應該有相關的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
5739.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
5741.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
想一想他們大概是多久會做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
5741.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
5743.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
定期的篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
5745.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
5747.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
來次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
5747.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
5749.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
5749.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
5751.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
5750.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
5752.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
當然委員可以提供各種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
5752.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
5754.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
方法來提供檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
5754.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
5756.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
當然就行政機關的角度來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
5756.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
5758.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
當然理論上是越多越好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
5758.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
5760.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
甚至不僅毛法你包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
5760.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
5762.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
血液甚至條文裡面授權說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
5762.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
5764.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
其他可行的方法都授權行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
5764.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
5766.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
來處理當然這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
5766.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
5768.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
行政機關沒有人會反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
5768.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
5770.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
只是站在一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
5770.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
5772.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
法規的主管機關來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
5772.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
5774.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
我們必須要再次強調就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
5774.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
5776.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
檢驗方法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
5776.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
5778.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
他必須要有層級化不同的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
5778.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
5780.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
我們現在血液的檢驗方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
5780.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
5782.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
我們憲判制連警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
5782.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
5784.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
我們111憲判一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
5784.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
5786.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
警察在造勢之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
5786.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
5788.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
抽血這種抽血都被憲告違憲了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
5788.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
5790.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
血液被憲告違憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
5790.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
5792.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
然後我們205-2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
5792.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
5794.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
毛法他是僅限於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
5794.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
5796.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
司法警察逮捕中的憲級犯才可以去採毛法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
5798.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
5800.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
這是犯罪偵查都已經保障到這種程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
5801.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
5803.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
那在這一條是行政管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
5803.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
5805.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
行政目的上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
5805.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
5807.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
要不要開放授權到這個程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
5807.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
5809.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
我再次強調行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
5809.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
5811.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
越多檢驗的工具我們越歡迎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
5811.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
5813.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
只是我站在一個目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
5813.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
5815.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
法規的目的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
5815.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
5817.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
我們必須要做法律人該講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
5817.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
5819.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
這個我必須要再次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
5819.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
5821.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
剛剛委員一直在強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
5821.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
5823.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
就是說假如拒絕的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
5823.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
5825.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
應該怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
5825.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
5827.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
我們33條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
5827.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
5829.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
的規範如果這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
5829.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
5831.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
裁員拒絕的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
5831.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
5833.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
條子規定可以拘束他的身體行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
5833.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
5835.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
只可以拘束他的身體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
5835.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
5837.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
沒有進一步規範的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
5838.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
5840.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
我昨天可是看了那個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
5840.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
5842.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
你們要不要把你們定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
5842.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
5844.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
那個授權辦法仔細的去拿出來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
5844.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
5846.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
我們都有看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
5846.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
5848.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
大家都有看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
5848.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
5850.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
他就是必要是他就是母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
5850.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
5852.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
拘束他的身體行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
5853.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
5855.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
有定定嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
5855.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
5857.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
17條啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
5857.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
5859.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
33條的第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
5859.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
5861.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
前項特定人員的範圍及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
5861.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
5863.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
採驗尿液的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
5863.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
5865.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
遊行政院定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
5865.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
5867.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
所以我有看到你們採驗尿液的實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
5867.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
5869.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
辦法啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
5869.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
5871.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
第七條必要時的拘束性身體行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
5871.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
5873.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
然後呢程序呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
5873.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
5875.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
程序的話是要有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
5875.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
5877.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
陪著進去那個廁所裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
5878.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
5880.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
然後來協助採尿耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
5883.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
5885.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
對啊這採尿跟拘束神聖自由沒有衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
5885.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
5887.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
協助採尿跟拘束神聖自由沒有關係嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
5887.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
5889.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
一個人在旁邊看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
5889.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
5891.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
看有沒有尿 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
5891.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
5893.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
有沒有排尿 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
5893.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
5895.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
那是怕避免他掉包啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
5895.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
5897.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
那本來就是辦法裡面有規定啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
5897.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
5899.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
所以你會覺得說這樣子對於侵害人格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
5899.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
5901.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
侵害人身自由的強度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
5901.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
5903.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
反而比較低 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
5903.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
5905.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
然後呢這個去剪一個頭髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
5905.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
5907.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
他的強度還比較高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
5907.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
5909.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
所以我就講這就是我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
5909.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
5911.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
很大的觀念上的不同對於很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
5911.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
5913.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
的公務員來講我覺得也許不見得能夠接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
5913.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
5915.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
像您這樣的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
5915.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
5917.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
更何況我們這樣講就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
5917.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
5919.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
你刑事訴訟法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
5919.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
5921.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
他規定的有很多種包含尿液 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
5921.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
5923.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
也有他也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
5923.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
5925.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
作為採證的方式然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
5925.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
5927.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
唾液然後血液驗血等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
5927.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
5929.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
這是規定在刑事訴訟法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
5929.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
5931.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
裡面但是我們現在行政法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
5931.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
5933.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
這個所謂毒害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
5933.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
5935.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
毒品危害防治條例裡面我們多增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
5935.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
5937.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
一個法律就是也符合法律保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
5937.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
5939.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
原則而且我們衡量過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
5939.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
5941.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
對於防治毒品的危害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
5941.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
5943.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
還有人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
5943.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
5945.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
權益的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
5945.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
5947.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
我們都有兼顧到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
5948.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
5950.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
5978.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
5980.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
可以證明說我長期間我都沒有吸毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
5982.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
5984.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
這不是更有效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
5984.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
5986.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
反而是說是你們對於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
5986.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
5988.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
短短的時間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
5988.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
5990.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
這個檢測方式他很容易毒品就排掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
5990.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
5992.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
你們比較喜歡用這個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
5992.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
5994.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
但是對於我剛剛講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
5994.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
5996.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
那個規避的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
5996.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
5998.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
一個聰明他真的吸食毒品的公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
5998.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6000.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
他很容易透過這個幾天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6000.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6002.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
那尿液的排毒出去之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6003.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6005.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
他就 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6005.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6007.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
這個前幾天可能就不碰毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6007.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6009.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
但是呢之後他可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6009.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6011.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
又會碰毒但是你們驗不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6011.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6013.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
對於學生來講也是這樣的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6014.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6016.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
對所以這就是我在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6016.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6018.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
多一個方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6018.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6020.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
而且我還 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6020.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6022.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
也同意就是你們未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6022.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6024.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
可以有行政院自己去訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6024.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6026.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
驗尿液跟驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6026.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6028.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
驗唾液的實施辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6028.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6030.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
你們什麼時候決定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6030.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6032.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
驗唾液驗毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6032.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6034.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
這都是你們自己可以去訂定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6035.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6037.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
對 最後醫生以上我再強調我的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6037.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6039.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
這有一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6039.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6041.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
我來釐清一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6041.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6043.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
就是說在座所有的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6043.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6045.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
跟所有的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6045.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6047.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
沒有任何跡象的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6047.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6049.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
沒有人可以來跟你講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6049.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6051.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
來你的一支頭髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
6051.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6053.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
你的頭髮我要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6053.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6055.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
來驗看看你到底有沒有吸毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6055.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6057.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
都不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6056.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6058.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
這個都不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6058.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6060.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
那你現在就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6060.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6062.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
我看這個幾個部門的監督機關裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6062.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6064.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
行政的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6066.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6068.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
對他的監督的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6068.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6070.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
不管你是來證保 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6073.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6075.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
像這個他覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6075.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6077.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
我受我監督的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6077.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6079.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
他可能會有這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6079.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6081.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
比較有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6081.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6083.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
適用毒品嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6083.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6085.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
所以他覺得說要來給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6085.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6087.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
做驗驗那種即時性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6088.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6090.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
那各位去看內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6090.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6092.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
這個副表裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6092.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6094.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
內政部也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6094.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6096.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
國防部也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6096.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6098.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
或者教育部也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6098.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6100.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
法務部也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6100.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6102.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
就是說你如果來證保 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6102.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6104.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
就是說他就針對生活情報不正當 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6104.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6106.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
有適用毒品嫌疑的這些警察人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
6106.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6108.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
或是說跟那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6108.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6110.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
那個警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6110.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
6112.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
跟那個毒販平反去做交往 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
6112.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
6114.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
或是說你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
6114.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
6116.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
毒品檢驗跟那個政務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6116.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6118.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
是保管的警察人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
6118.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
6120.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
或是說那個替代役的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
6120.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
6122.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
他就覺得認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
6122.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
6124.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
事實中認為可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
6124.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
6126.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
用毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6126.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6128.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
針對這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
6128.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
6130.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
他內政部的副表就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
6130.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
6132.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
這些人的一個尿疫的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
6132.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
6134.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
採驗的一個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
6134.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
6136.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
說我受我監督的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
6136.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
6138.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
我要用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
6138.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
6140.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
這樣的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
6140.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
6142.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
那你至於說我要去再用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
6142.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
6144.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
去毛髮的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
6144.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
6146.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
那個是涉及到我也認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
6146.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
6148.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
那個是屬於刑事訴訟法裡面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
6148.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
6150.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
6150.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
6152.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
那去應對的部分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
6152.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
6154.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
那你如果說沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
6154.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
6156.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
刑事訴訟法在犯罪偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
6156.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
6158.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
你說檢察官或警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
6158.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
6160.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
他也不能去馬路邊抓一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
6160.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
6162.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
就給他抓去跟他說我要給你驗尿 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
6162.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
6164.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
驗唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
6164.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
6166.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
甚至要來採毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
6166.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
6168.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
也不行耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
6168.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
6170.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
所以我們在這個地方33條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
6170.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
6172.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
請各位再看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
6172.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
6174.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
33條這個是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
6174.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
6176.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
針對主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
6176.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
6178.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
對於他所屬跟監督的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
6178.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
6180.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
6180.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
6182.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
就是在說內政部、國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
6182.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
6184.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
6184.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
6186.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
還有法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
6186.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
6188.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
是在說這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
6188.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
6190.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
還有經濟部、交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
6190.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
6192.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
是在說這些的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
6192.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
6194.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
不是對一般的一個民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
6195.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
6197.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
市長我這樣說對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
6197.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
6199.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
就針對這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
6199.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
6201.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
針對這一些就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
6201.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
6203.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
要不要迅速來知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
6203.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
6205.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
他有犯罪、沒有犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
6205.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
6207.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
那就是另外一回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
6207.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
6209.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
他如果有犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
6209.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
6211.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
譬如說有犯罪嫌疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
6211.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
6213.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
發現有毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
6213.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
6215.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
就開始警察機關戒錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
6215.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
6217.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
或者報警檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
6217.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
6219.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
就開始去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
6219.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
6221.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
啟動刑事上偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
6221.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
6223.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
那個當然會有毛髮的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
6223.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
6225.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
那就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
6225.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
6227.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
但是現在出院的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
6227.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
6229.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
是不是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
6229.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
6231.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
歐委員的部分你把毛髮也放進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
6231.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
6233.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
確實要再考量一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
6233.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
6235.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
歐委員你用心良苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
6235.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
6237.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
我都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
6237.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
6239.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
但是我去我建議你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
6239.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
6241.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
我建議你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
6241.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
6243.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
我知道你對這個部分有準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
6243.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
6245.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
但問題就是說大家會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
6245.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
6247.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
不一樣的一個看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
6247.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
6249.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
6249.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
6251.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
甚至於連法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
6251.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
6253.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
他都認為這個都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
6253.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
6255.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
違反比例原則了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
6255.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
6257.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
有一點這個武器給的過多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
6257.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
6259.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
來 再來換誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
6259.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
6261.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
來 先讓范委員講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
6261.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
6263.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
三條而已我陪你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
6263.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
6265.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
好 我想這個毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
6265.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
6267.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
真的是非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
6267.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
6269.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
也是非常嚴重的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
6269.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
6271.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
那其實它現在是個全球的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
6271.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
6273.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
因為根據聯合國的世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
6273.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
6275.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
毒品報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
6275.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
6277.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
全球15歲到64歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
6277.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
6279.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
人口有6.2% |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
6279.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
6281.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
都曾經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
6281.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
6283.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
使用過毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
6283.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
6285.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
那它相關的報告也講就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
6285.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
6287.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
其實這個新型的合成毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
6287.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
6289.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
不斷的在變化研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
6289.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
6291.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
新的內容那一直在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
6291.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
6293.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
躲避法規跟逃避偵測 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
6293.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
6295.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
所以到底是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
6295.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
6297.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
如何能夠檢測出其實真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
6297.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
6299.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
一個高難度也很重要的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
6299.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
6301.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
而我之前質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
6301.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
6303.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
一直強調我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
6303.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
6305.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
這是檢測非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
6305.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
6307.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
但是源頭管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
6307.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
6309.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
那也是非常根本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
6309.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
6311.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
事情希望法務部能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
6311.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
6313.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
重視這個部分但我們今天討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
6313.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
6315.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
的是這個主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
6315.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
6317.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
對於所屬或監督之特定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
6317.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
6319.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
人員與必要的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
6319.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
6321.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
能夠採驗尿液 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
6321.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
6323.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
再加上什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
6323.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
6325.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
那因為它性質上是個行政調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
6325.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
6327.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
所以我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
6327.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
6329.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
快速可以驗出其實是最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
6329.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
6331.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
那唾液的這個檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
6331.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
6333.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
那其實目前的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
6333.21 |
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研究它是可以的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
6335.21 |
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6337.21 |
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因為它有一個好處就是非侵入性 |
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6337.21 |
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6339.21 |
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採樣又很快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
6339.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
6341.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
那考慮上施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
6341.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
6343.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
煙彈它的那個半衰期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
6343.21 |
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6345.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
非常的短 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
6345.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
6347.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
就是那個所謂依托靡指的半衰期很短 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
6347.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
6349.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
那如果它拖過那個採驗期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
6349.21 |
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6351.21 |
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就可能逃過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
6351.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
6353.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
所以我覺得那個檢驗的速度快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
6353.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
6355.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
然後非侵入性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
6355.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
6357.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
那現場就能夠有這樣子一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
6357.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
6359.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
行政上的一個做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
6359.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
6361.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
我覺得是最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
6361.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
6363.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
我這樣講就是那我支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
6363.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
6365.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
這個行政院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
6365.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
6367.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
那我自己的版本也是這樣定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
6367.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
6369.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
跟大家說明謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
6372.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
6374.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
謝謝 趙志偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
6374.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
6376.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
主席你今天就一直 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
6376.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
6378.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
好像覺得我不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
6378.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
6380.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
講話了 你知道我摔了大交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
6380.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
6382.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
不過我頭腦還可以表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
6382.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
6384.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
第一個我們就回到初衷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
6384.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
6386.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
我記得剛剛范永偉一開始講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
6386.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
6388.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
我記得他錯過了廣泛討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
6388.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
6390.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
我們其實已經進入那個技術面的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
6390.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
6392.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
第一個你看這個行政院自己提案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
6392.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
6394.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
它的立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
6394.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
6396.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
你看他現在他說特定人員要列管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
6397.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
6399.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
列管 就是你要把你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
6399.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
6401.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
這些特定的人員你要做列管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
6401.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
6403.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
也許這個要什麼樣管什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
6403.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
6405.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
那你這個列管本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
6405.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
6407.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
你讀起來這個文字就不是即時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
6407.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
6409.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
就不是立刻現在喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
6409.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
6411.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
因為你要把你這個特定的人員做列管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
6411.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
6413.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
我先舉例醫院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
6413.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
6415.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
醫院為什麼每個人進去到醫院上班 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
6415.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
6417.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
包括行政人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
6417.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
6419.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
我們因為怕感染病人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
6419.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
6421.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
因為我們接觸病人等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
6421.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
6423.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
譬如說早期現在細肝被拿掉清除很棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
6423.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
6425.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
那個B肝的那種罪一定要測 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
6425.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
6427.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
譬如說TB肺結核一定要測 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
6427.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
6429.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
就是因為你的工作上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
6429.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
6431.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
或是必要性在那個環境裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
6431.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
6433.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
我們都測 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
6433.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
6435.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
這個都毫無疑問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
6435.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
6437.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
這個沒有什麼違憲或是什麼東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
6437.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
6439.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
這個東西就是你在那個環境上你要保護自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
6439.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
6441.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
也要保護病人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
6441.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
6443.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
那也要避免這個傳導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
6443.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
6445.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
所以基本上我們先回到原始初衷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
6445.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
6447.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
那觀光這個列管考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
6447.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
6449.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
那為什麼我現在也會同意說 欸毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
6449.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
6451.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
我剛開始就同意放進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
6451.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
6453.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
我想請主管及觀記得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
6453.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
6455.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
只有那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
6455.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
6457.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
成分本身的半衰期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
6457.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
6459.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
現在還要看你檢驗的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
6459.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
6461.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
那現在事實上這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
6461.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
6463.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
E-TOMYZ在各個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
6463.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
6465.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
的那個半衰期都會不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
6465.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
6467.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
在唾液也許它這個八成以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
6467.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
6469.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
在24小時就不見了 你要掌握時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
6469.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
6471.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
但是然後這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
6471.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
6473.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
包括在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
6473.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
6475.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
尿液的 尿液是最快的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
6475.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
6477.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
然後唾液時間變慢 毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
6477.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
6479.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
剛剛大家講到毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
6479.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
6481.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
事實上 主席不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
6481.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
6483.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
你剛剛講說一個月前他有吸毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
6483.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
6485.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
那我們怎麼知道他戒掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
6485.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
6487.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
就是說他一個月前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
6487.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
6489.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
也是危險人物喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
6489.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
6491.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
你也一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
6491.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
6493.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
我們33條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
6493.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
6495.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
趙姿我跟你對話一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
6495.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
6497.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
我這沒什麼用的 33條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
6497.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
6499.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
我們真的要賦予行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
6499.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
6501.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
這麼大的權利嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
6501.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
6503.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
因為他說要列管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
6503.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
6505.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
你如果是司法部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
6505.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
6507.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
如果是檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
6507.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
6509.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
你就說 你就法官 我就法官保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
6509.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
6511.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
OK 我偵辦人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
6511.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
6513.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
我得到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
6513.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
6515.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
我在偵查當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
6515.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
6517.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
行政司法賦予他的一個權限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
6517.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
6519.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
說 我就要跟你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
6519.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
6521.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
採你的毛髮 說要看你這個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
6521.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
6523.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
是不是有犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
6523.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
6525.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
犯罪沒 這我OK喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
6525.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
6527.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
但是我們現在33條立法的目的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
6527.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
6529.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
在講行政人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
6529.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
6531.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
你也可以有這麼大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
6531.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
6533.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
權限到連毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
6533.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
6535.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
那個講侵入性 大家有點誤解啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
6535.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
6537.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
侵入性大家以為是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
6537.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
6539.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
到人體裡面才叫侵入性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
6539.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
6541.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
不是 侵入性的解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
6541.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
6543.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
裡面是涉及到個人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
6543.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
6545.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
隱私 或者說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
6545.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
6547.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
涉及到我生活的紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
6547.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
6549.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
這個部分都有人權上的疑慮啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
6549.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
6551.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
但我們立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
6551.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
6553.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
為什麼大家不敢說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
6553.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
6555.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
說這個之後好像又講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
6555.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
6557.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
好像又碰到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
6557.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
6559.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
販毒的部分 你們就在講人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
6559.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
6561.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
尤其是台灣民眾 國民眾批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
6561.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
6563.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
我們多說 你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
6563.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
6565.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
但是在司法法制委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
6565.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
6567.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
我很敢講的原因在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
6567.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
6569.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
我認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
6569.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
6571.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
這個立法輕易下去的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
6571.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
6573.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
因為個人的見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
6573.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
6575.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
不一定聽別人的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
6575.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
6577.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
這樣也不好 我比較喜歡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
6577.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
6579.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
只堅持我自己的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
6579.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
6581.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
所以你們的意見我都聽懂了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
6581.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
6583.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
但問題是我怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
6583.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
6585.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
你們不想得到的部分就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
6586.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
6588.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
我們也聽聽看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
6588.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
6590.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
連法務部 連學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
6590.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
6592.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
都會認為你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
6592.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
6594.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
授權給行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
6594.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
6596.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
會不會給他太多的武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
6596.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
6598.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
如果是犯罪偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
6598.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
6600.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
有檢查官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
6600.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
6602.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
有檢察來申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
6602.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
6604.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
有法官保留搜索票的保文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
6604.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
6606.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
強制處分的保文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
6606.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
6608.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
看要怎麼動他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
6608.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
6610.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
可是這個不是在講犯罪喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
6610.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
6612.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
這是要及時去發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
6612.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
6614.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
那你要不要給行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
6614.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
6616.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
給他的權限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
6616.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
6618.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
跟司法機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
6618.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
6620.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
或者偵查機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
6620.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
6622.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
同樣那麼多的武器給他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
6622.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
6624.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
我是擔心這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
6625.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
6627.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
主席 前面幾個方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
6627.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
6629.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
包括唾液跟尿液 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
6629.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
6631.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
其實我現在都還沒有檢驗他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
6631.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
6633.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
就了解他們實際上執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
6633.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
6635.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
因為他有偽陰偽陽性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
6635.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
6637.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
他的頻率代表說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
6637.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
6639.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
他的偵測的能力還有過的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
6639.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
6641.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
那這個我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
6641.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
6643.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
你一邊講 我剛剛突然就有點想到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
6643.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
6645.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
當初就是有品流樣出問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
6645.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
6647.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
他這個有點流樣的感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
6647.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
6649.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
像其實那個毛髮要取起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
6649.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
6651.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
也是毛髮每個月找1公分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
6651.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
6653.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
你如果就是減到1公分為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
6653.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
6655.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
其實他這個一個月內你也是空窗期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
6655.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
6657.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
你也是測不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
6657.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
6659.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
但是他們的頻率有針對這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
6660.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
6662.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
科學去設計嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
6662.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
6664.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
司法當然不要侵犯人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
6664.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
6666.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
可是你要based你做的方法跟選擇的檢驗方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
6666.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
6668.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
跟所謂等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
6668.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
6670.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
我們會提出來要怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
6670.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
6672.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
偽陰跟偽陽性 我今天談的是偽陽性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
6672.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
6674.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
就是冤枉人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
6674.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
6676.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
偽陰就是放掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
6676.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
6678.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
就是重放了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
6678.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
6680.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
這個部分才是真正我覺得是重視的人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
6680.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
6682.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
那有關這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
6682.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
6684.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
如果他們這裡沒有足夠科學的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
6684.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
6686.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
在辦法中去搭配的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
6686.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
6688.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
我反而覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
6688.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
6690.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
我這個心反而沒有辦法把這件事情做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
6691.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
6693.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
你的論述更不應該贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
6695.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
6697.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
毛法呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
6697.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
6699.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
你像譬如說你那個環境汙染的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
6699.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
6701.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
你這樣走進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
6701.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
6703.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
我們這群人在這裡吸毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
6703.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
6705.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
假設我們這組叫吸毒組的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
6705.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
6707.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
我們這邊是吸毒 翁委員跟陳召志委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
6707.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
6709.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
你們走進來後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
6709.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
6711.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
沒有你們兩個走進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
6711.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
6713.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
那這個叫做環境喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
6713.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
6715.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
這個環境你們的兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
6715.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
6717.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
毛法就受到汙染喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
6717.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
6719.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
你們兩個出去後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
6719.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
6721.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
因為你們兩個都法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
6721.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
6723.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
流氧哪有隨便放的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
6723.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
6725.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
不是啦 我在跟你講毛法嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
6725.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
6727.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
我是說假設我們在這邊吸毒嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
6727.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
6729.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
我們幾個在這裡吸毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
6729.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
6731.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
你們兩個走進來嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
6731.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
6733.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
我們都法務部的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
6733.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
6735.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
你們兩個走進來後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
6735.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
6737.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
你們兩個的頭髮會受到這個環境啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
6737.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
6739.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
我們在這邊吸毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
6739.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
6741.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
二手毒品淹害這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
6741.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
6743.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
還不會 毛法還不會到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
6743.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
6745.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
這個喔 這不是開玩笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
6745.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
6747.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
好 那你出去以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
6748.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
6750.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
不是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
6750.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
6752.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
我的意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
6752.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
6754.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
黃毛性是次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
6754.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
6756.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
你願意讓他一個全線行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
6756.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
6758.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
不是犯罪喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
6758.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
6760.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
讓法務部可以決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
6760.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
6762.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
拿你一根頭髮去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
6762.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
6764.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
那是你可以的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
6764.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
6766.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
我們不能這樣決定啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
6766.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
6768.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
那你真的會造成偽陽性的問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
6768.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
6770.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
你們兩個是無辜的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
6770.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
6772.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
沒有啦 所以這是周美如 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
6772.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
6774.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
你剛剛說的那樣子的前提不對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
6774.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
6776.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
人家在吸毒我們過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
6776.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
6778.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
然後吸那個空氣我頭髮就會有毒嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
6778.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
6780.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
不會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
6780.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
6782.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
不是啦 我在舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
6782.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
6784.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
不要 我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
6784.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
6786.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
我在講的是說會受到環境汙染的問題嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
6786.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
6788.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
你如果去多看一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
6788.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
6790.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
這一次法務部跟學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
6790.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
6792.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
所提出來這些疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
6792.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
6794.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
疑慮有汙染 連實驗室都會有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
6794.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
6796.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
是是 沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
6796.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
6798.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
重點在哪裡你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
6798.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
6800.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
重點是我們要不要賦予 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
6800.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
6802.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
行政部門跟司法部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
6802.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
6804.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
同樣的全線的問題啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
6807.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
6809.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
我好想講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
6809.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
6811.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
你知道我的意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
6811.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
6813.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
我知道 我現在要講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
6813.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
6815.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
只要是強制檢驗的這個手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
6815.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
6817.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
它本身就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
6817.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
6819.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
會有侵害人權的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
6819.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
6821.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
當然 今天這個絕對不是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
6821.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
6823.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
讓大家自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
6823.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
6825.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
你要去驗尿去接受托制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
6825.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
6827.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
它就是個強制檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
6827.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
6829.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
是啦 所以一定都會侵害到人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
6829.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
6831.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
但是問題是輕度干擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
6831.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
6833.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
中度干擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
6833.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
6835.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
或者重度干擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
6835.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
6837.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
它本來就是會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
6837.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
6839.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
我們常常在講的比例原則的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
6839.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
6841.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
看你要採取哪一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
6841.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
6843.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
比例原則的看法不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
6843.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
6845.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
我剛剛還看了就是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
6845.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
6847.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
他們自己頒訂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
6847.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
6849.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
特定人員尿液採驗作業要點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
6849.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
6851.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
大家仔細去看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
6851.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
6853.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
那個作業要點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
6853.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
6855.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
如果說第一個他是採不定期的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
6855.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
6857.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
一個抽檢 他有不定期收檢方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
6857.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
6859.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
或是說他有定期兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
6859.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
6861.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
那麼如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
6861.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
6863.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
是今天當事人他拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
6863.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
6865.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
去做驗尿的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
6865.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
6867.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
裡面還要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
6867.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
6869.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
這時候可以拘束當事人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
6869.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
6871.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
身體自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
6871.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
6873.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
同時強制驗尿的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
6873.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
6875.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
還說要特別注意受檢人的名譽及身體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
6875.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
6877.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
所以他其實侵害名譽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
6877.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
6879.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
跟身體的法疫程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
6879.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
6881.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
是更高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
6881.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
6883.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
那我現在要講就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
6883.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
6885.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
如果大家一直在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
6885.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
6887.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
這個今年試檢驗毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
6887.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
6889.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
就會侵害人格權侵害人的行動自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
6889.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
6891.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
那麼你做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
6891.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
6893.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
說唾液的篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
6893.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
6895.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
跟尿液的篩檢何嘗不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
6895.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
6897.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
何嘗不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
6897.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
6899.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
更何況今天他是個行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
6899.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
6901.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
管理的手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
6901.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
6903.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
我們已經也授權未來就是相關的機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
6903.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
6905.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
他可以斟酌狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
6905.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
6907.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
可以自己去定義相關的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
6908.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
6910.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
那現在法務部一再不斷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
6910.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
6912.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
去阻擋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
6912.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
6914.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
類似這個毛髮可以作為篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
6914.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
6916.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
我真的覺得說你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
6916.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
6918.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
想法非常的奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
6918.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
6920.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
這樣的話你們認為說難道不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
6920.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
6922.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
擔心會有更多的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
6922.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
6924.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
聰明或者狡猾的公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
6924.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
6926.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
他可能可以透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
6926.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
6928.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
這個規避 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
6928.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
6930.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
尿液篩檢跟唾液篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
6930.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
6932.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
這個方式然後他反而他就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
6932.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
6934.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
吸毒我現在講的像是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
6934.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
6936.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
他是怎樣的員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
6936.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
6938.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
特定人員他必須要接受篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
6938.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
6940.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
像是台電公司的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
6940.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
6942.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
發電書店這個配電等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
6942.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
6944.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
這些裝修的員工中油公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
6944.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
6946.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
各種運輸啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
6946.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
6948.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
供水供電的員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
6948.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
6950.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
還有各個機關這個駕駛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
6950.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
6952.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
人員等等所以這些駕駛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
6952.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
6954.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
人員還有這些員工基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
6954.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
6956.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
如果說你今天能夠用一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
6956.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
6958.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
其他的方式多一個選項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
6958.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
6960.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
讓他們可以去接受篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
6960.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
6962.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
而且也可以確保他們過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
6962.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
6964.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
確實可能在半年一年裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
6964.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
6966.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
從來沒有吸毒的這樣的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
6966.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
6968.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
這不是更好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
6968.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
6970.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
未來他就不見得一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
6970.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
6972.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
去接受那個就是抽檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
6974.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
6976.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
所以法務部今天一些想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
6976.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
6978.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
我其實不太能接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
6978.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
6980.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
我們是不是先 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
6980.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
6982.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
我們是不是先釐清一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
6982.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
6984.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
6983.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
6985.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
你要發動強制處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
6985.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
6987.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
除了司法機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
6987.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
6989.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
行政部門怎麼會可以有強制處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
6991.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
6993.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
那你要有任何強制處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
6993.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
6995.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
涉及到強制處分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
6995.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
6997.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
這當然要法律保留嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
6997.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
6999.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
你要對人身的侵犯的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
6999.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7001.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
有輕度、有重度、有重度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7003.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7005.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
33條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7005.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7007.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
以小弟不才啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7007.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7009.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
那剛好是有立法的授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7009.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7011.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
否則針對行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7011.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
7013.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
行政部門要去干擾到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
7013.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
7015.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
一般民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
7015.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
7017.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
除非你在行政機關你才 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
7017.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
7019.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
以前那種特別權力關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
7019.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
7021.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
否則你說我做部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
7021.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
7023.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
我做你們的長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
7023.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
7025.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
我就有辦法要求我底下的員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7025.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
7027.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
我要給你做什麼做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
7027.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
7029.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
門都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
7029.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
7031.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
我如果是員工的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
7031.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
7033.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
就是因為我們有法律授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
7033.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
7035.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
現在是因為沒有法律授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
7035.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
7037.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
所以不可以做毛髮採驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
7037.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
7039.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
所以我的意思是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
7039.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
7041.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
公委員來了,問題來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
7041.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
7043.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
就是說本來33條連行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
7043.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
7045.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
都不行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
7045.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
7047.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
那已經授權到你可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
7047.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
7049.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
我們現在原條文的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
7049.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
7051.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
是只有尿液嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
7051.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
7053.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
那我們現在要再把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
7053.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
7055.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
多一個武器給行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
7055.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
7057.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
是多再給它一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
7057.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
7059.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
叫做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
7062.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
7064.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
尿液 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
7064.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
7066.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
你的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
7066.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
7068.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
不要緊啦,給行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
7068.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
7070.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
給一個尿液,毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
7071.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
7073.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
理論上33條我認為都不應該有的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
7074.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
7076.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
都不應該有的啦,因為你不是司法部門啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
7077.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
7079.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
阿你現在已經給它一個了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
7079.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
7081.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
我們現在法務部都認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
7081.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
7083.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
折中折中,你再給我一個就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
7083.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
7085.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
我就很開心了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
7085.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
7087.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
你不是我們這裡說不好開綠燈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
7087.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
7089.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
全部給法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
7089.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
7091.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
全部給行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
7091.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
7093.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
這也不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
7093.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
7095.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
我只是說多增加一個毛髮喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
7095.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
7097.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
那基本上,因為我就說嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
7097.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
7099.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
因為現在如果說台灣不是毒價很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
7099.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
7101.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
不是毒品氾濫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
7101.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
7103.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
基本上我非常同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
7103.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
7105.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
剛剛周偉的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
7105.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
7107.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
33條根本就應該刪掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
7107.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
7109.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
我們現在機關這麼大的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
7109.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
7111.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
可是就是因為我們現在毒品氾濫的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
7111.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
7113.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
7113.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
7115.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
而且還不僅僅是造成犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
7115.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
7117.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
更重要的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
7117.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
7119.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
有很多執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
7119.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
7121.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
跟我們公眾安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
7121.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
7123.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
有關的業務的這些人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
7123.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
7125.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
我們當然要更加強相關的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
7125.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
7127.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
所以我完全是基於一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
7127.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
7129.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
這個好善意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
7129.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
7131.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
我懂,我懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
7131.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
7133.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
來,到波特洛來,教育部有來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
7133.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
7135.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
來聽聽看教育部的看法好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
7140.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
7142.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
聽聽看你們的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
7142.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
7144.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
是針對唾液快篩那一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
7144.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
7146.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
他們說要多毛髮,你們認為呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
7146.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
7148.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
唾液當然,現在就認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
7148.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
7150.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
多給你們一個武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
7150.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
7152.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
覺得我們來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
7152.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
7154.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
本來只是釀藥,我們再多一個唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
7154.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
7156.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
可能會比較快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
7156.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
7158.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
如果再多一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
7158.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
7160.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
給行政部門,給教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
7160.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
7162.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
我覺得說,讓你們學校裡面的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
7162.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
7164.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
可以針對毛髮,你們的看法呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
7164.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
7166.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
因為毛髮這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
7166.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
7168.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
我們之前沒有討論過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
7168.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
7170.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
所以針對毛髮這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
7170.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
7172.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
他到底要怎麼樣去做一個篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
7172.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
7174.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
然後他一些相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
7174.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
7176.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
檢驗的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
7176.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
7178.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
還有需要注意的事項部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
7178.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
7180.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
這個部分我們可能要再跟相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
7180.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
7182.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
專業單位再做一個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
7182.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
7184.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
才能知道他在實務上的可行性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
7184.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
7186.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
是如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
7186.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
7188.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
但是因為我們知道像唾液塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
7188.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
7190.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
的準確度是很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
7190.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
7192.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
所以唾液塊在這個部分,我們是比較希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
7192.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
7194.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
在校園可以先來做實施這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
7194.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
7196.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
7196.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
7198.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
司法常常是最嚴謹的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
7198.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
7200.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
我看司法機關經過偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
7200.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
7202.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
經過一審審判 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
7202.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
7204.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
二審三審出來,大家在那裡大喊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
7204.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
7206.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
司法不公 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
7206.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
7208.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
你現在行政部門多給他這麼多的一個武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
7208.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
7210.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
到時候沒完沒了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
7210.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
7212.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
我跟你講,我就是站在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
7212.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
7214.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
我沒有特別的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
7214.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
7216.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
我只是說,現在既然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
7216.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
7218.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
折衷到多給一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
7219.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
7221.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
多給了一個唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
7221.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
7223.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
我們又要再開放一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
7223.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
7225.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
給行政部門再給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
7225.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
7227.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
毛髮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
7227.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
7229.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
7239.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
7241.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
那我們現在講的是出院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
7241.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
7243.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
給他更快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
7243.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
7245.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
更快你要不要到毛髮 |
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7245.34 |
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7247.34 |
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除非你認為說,法務部你誤定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
7247.34 |
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7249.34 |
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毛髮就比你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
7249.34 |
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7251.34 |
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唾液的侵害性更加多,更加快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
7251.34 |
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7253.34 |
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更加即時,那你為什麼不採 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
7253.34 |
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7255.34 |
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毛髮,為什麼去採唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
7255.34 |
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7257.34 |
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那這樣來講又通喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
7257.34 |
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7259.34 |
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可是你如果說,因為毒駕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
7259.34 |
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7261.34 |
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讓他知道這個人到底有沒有犯法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
7261.34 |
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7263.34 |
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那個部分屬於犯罪刑事偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
7263.34 |
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7265.34 |
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他在,他啟動 |
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7265.34 |
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7267.34 |
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出院完以後,那到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
7267.34 |
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7269.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
再復院一次以後,可以有更嚴格的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
7269.34 |
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7271.34 |
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一個程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
7271.34 |
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7273.34 |
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我反而會覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
7273.39 |
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7275.39 |
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跟打擊犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
7275.86 |
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7277.86 |
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這個地方無關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
7277.86 |
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7279.86 |
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這部分是行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
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7281.86 |
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是,我先 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
7281.86 |
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7283.86 |
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我再補充一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
7283.86 |
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7285.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
剛剛因為教育部的這個同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
7285.86 |
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7287.86 |
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他沒有講到就是說,到底什麼樣的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
7287.86 |
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7289.86 |
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會被 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
7289.86 |
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7291.86 |
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會被做尿液檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
7291.86 |
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7293.86 |
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就是因為這個毒品危害法律條例裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
7293.86 |
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7295.86 |
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會,必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
7295.86 |
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7297.86 |
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強制要去做尿液檢查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
7297.86 |
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7299.86 |
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他們現在教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
7299.86 |
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7301.86 |
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裡面,基本上要做尿液 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
7301.86 |
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7303.86 |
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檢查的對象包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
7303.86 |
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7305.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
中金違反 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
7305.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
7307.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
獨違條例行為的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
7308.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
7310.56 |
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還有曾經有休學中錯生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
7310.56 |
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7312.56 |
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這個可能也會要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
7312.56 |
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7314.56 |
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要去做尿液的篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
7314.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
7316.56 |
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還有有事實,主認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
7316.56 |
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7318.56 |
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這個學生他是適用毒品嫌疑的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
7318.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
7320.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
另外一個很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
7320.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
7322.56 |
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就是針對學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
7322.56 |
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7324.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
裡面的駕駛人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
7324.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
7326.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
也要做這個尿液的篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
7326.56 |
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7328.56 |
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因為這是怕萬一,這駕駛他如果吸毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
7328.56 |
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7330.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
然後,當然會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
7330.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
7332.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
會有這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
7332.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
7334.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
那麼,我現在要講的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
7334.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
7336.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
多一個毛法,它不過就是多一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
7336.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
7338.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
讓主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
7338.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
7340.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
它可以運用去檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
7340.56 |
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7342.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
這相關的人員或是學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
7342.56 |
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7344.56 |
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有沒有吸毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
7345.48 |
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7347.48 |
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而且我也沒有講說,在第一次就要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
7347.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
7349.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
檢知,就一定要用毛法測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
7349.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
7351.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
它可以像是剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
7351.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
7353.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
張偉講,它可以作為復驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
7353.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
7355.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
第二次,但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
7355.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
7357.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
在選擇要用什麼樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
7357.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
7359.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
採證的方式的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
7359.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
7361.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
至少可以讓行政機關它多一個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
7361.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
7363.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
這我認為這是非常合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
7363.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
7365.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
我再次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
7365.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
7367.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
今天我們不要把這個行政管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
7367.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
7369.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
手段又扯遠了,又跟司法的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
7369.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
7371.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
不不不 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
7371.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
7373.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
你這樣會,我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
7373.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
7375.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
我認為你這樣給行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
7375.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
7377.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
太大的權限了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
7377.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
7379.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
我,譬如說這學校裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
7379.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
7381.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
我是學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
7381.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
7383.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
我比較不良學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
7383.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
7385.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
我前面,我們這裡叫不良組 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
7385.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
7387.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
我前面都壞了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
7387.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
7389.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
但我們每天都不良 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
7389.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
7391.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
你不能當你當教官的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
7391.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
7393.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
當老師的人,當學務處的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
7393.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
7395.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
看我們幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
7395.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
7397.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
我們帶兩支,要檢驗,我們不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
7397.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
7399.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
張偉,你懂我意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
7399.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
7401.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
你懂我的意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
7401.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
7403.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
我們幾個,如果說我們有去犯法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
7403.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
7405.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
刑事犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
7405.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
7407.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
那個是刑事偵查的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
7407.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
7409.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
那不是只給我們拿這個力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
7409.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
7411.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
那要給我們逮捕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
7411.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
7413.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
上少年法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
7413.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
7415.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
這不是,這你賦予學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
7415.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
7417.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
就變成給他,等同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
7417.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
7419.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
司法偵查,跟偵查機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
7419.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
7421.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
同樣的武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
7422.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
7424.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
這樣說好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
7424.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
7426.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
我比較保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
7426.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
7428.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
我基本上,就是說你只要是對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
7428.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
7430.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
所有,任何的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
7430.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
7432.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
特定人員去做檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
7432.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
7434.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
只要是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
7434.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
7436.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
司法,沒有符合法官保留的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
7436.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
7438.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
他都會有這樣的疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
7438.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
7440.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
今天我在學校裡面開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
7440.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
7442.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
開學校的校車駕駛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
7442.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
7444.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
我為什麼要接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
7444.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
7446.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
強制的尿液檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
7446.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
7448.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
那不是也是懷疑我是吸毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
7448.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
7450.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
這也是對我人格的名譽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
7450.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
7452.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
有很大的侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
7452.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
7454.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
但是我就想說,因為他是個行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
7454.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
7456.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
管理的手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
7456.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
7458.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
這是沒有辦法,因為我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
7458.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
7460.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
能夠維護更大的公共安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
7460.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
7462.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
維護公義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
7462.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
7464.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
那對於學生來講也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
7464.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
7466.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
所以為什麼教育部他說 |
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他不是犯犯的所有的學生 |
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他都要去檢查 |
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就是手段的問題 |
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手段要不要多那麼多 |
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要不要那個比例原則的問題 |
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7476.18 |
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7478.18 |
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我們講的意見幾乎都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
7478.18 |
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7480.18 |
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可是說我們真正的爭執是在於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
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第一個,要不要給他這麼多的武器 |
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第二個 |
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7486.18 |
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然後這一個 |
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會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
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7490.18 |
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符合比例原則的問題 |
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我沒有定見 |
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就是說多幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
7494.42 |
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7496.42 |
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你如果說給司法機關 |
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7496.42 |
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7498.42 |
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司法機關要窮盡一切辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
7498.42 |
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7500.42 |
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除惡誤盡打擊犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
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7502.42 |
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他任何的方式我都贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
7502.42 |
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7504.42 |
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但問題那叫司法機關可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
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可是行政部門 |
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7508.42 |
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他到底有沒有這樣的權力 |
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7509.96 |
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7511.96 |
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回到那個原點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
7511.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
7513.96 |
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如果說你認為行政部門沒有權力的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
7513.96 |
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7515.96 |
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尿液的篩檢跟唾液的篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
7515.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
7517.96 |
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都不應該有 |
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7517.96 |
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7519.96 |
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這都是展現行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
7519.96 |
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7521.96 |
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長治權力的一個手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
7521.96 |
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7523.96 |
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所以我剛的前提就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
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7525.96 |
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如果不是為了公義的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
7525.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
7527.96 |
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33條都不應該存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
7527.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
7529.96 |
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對,所以我們今天回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
7529.96 |
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7531.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
除非你認為這些機關都特別權力關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
7531.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
7533.96 |
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其實我會認為我會支持有33條的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
7533.96 |
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7535.96 |
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因為我確實認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
7535.96 |
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7537.96 |
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毒品的氾濫問題很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
7537.96 |
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7539.96 |
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我甚至認為可以給主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
7539.96 |
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7541.96 |
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多幾個去檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
7541.96 |
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7543.96 |
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毒品的手段包含減指甲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
7543.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
7545.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
我今天其實本來想提個修正建議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
7545.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
7547.96 |
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除了毛髮之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
7547.96 |
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7549.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
甚至連指甲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
7549.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
7551.96 |
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都可以作為檢驗的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
7552.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
7554.94 |
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因為現在已經在我們上去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
7554.94 |
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7556.94 |
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拜訪科學建設中心的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
7556.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
7558.94 |
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他們基本上現在指甲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
7558.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
7560.94 |
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剪一小段指甲就可以去驗出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
7560.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
7562.94 |
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有沒有毒品了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
7562.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
7564.94 |
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沒有啦,翁委員,方法都對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
7564.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
7566.94 |
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你講的方法都對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
7566.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
7568.94 |
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我們現在講的是說給司法機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
7568.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
7570.94 |
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或者給行政部門的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
7570.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
7572.94 |
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你給司法機關的所有方法都可以喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
7572.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
7574.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
所有的方法都願意接受喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
7574.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
7576.94 |
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因為行政管理手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
7576.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
7578.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
它是個預防手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
7578.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
7580.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
真正發生了毒價車禍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
7580.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
7582.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
然後造成人員傷亡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
7582.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
7584.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
這時候把它用司法犯罪行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
7584.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
7586.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
去起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
7586.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
7588.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
然後再來修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
7588.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
7590.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
我覺得那都是很後端的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
7590.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
7592.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
我跟莊昭偉其實我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
7592.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
7594.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
我們的理念都是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
7594.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
7596.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
我今天只是說比較是站在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
7596.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
7598.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
當前欠階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
7598.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
7600.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
我們台灣社會真的毒品問題很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
7600.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
7602.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
我們甚至不敢保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
7602.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
7604.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
是不是只有那個不良青少年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
7604.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
7606.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
才有吸毒的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
7606.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
7608.94 |
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很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
7608.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
7610.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
很多的年長者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
7610.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
7612.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
成年人也會有這樣的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
7612.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
7614.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
而他們可能是在我們公共 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
7614.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
7616.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
的機關裡面服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
7617.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
7619.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
今天不過就是多加一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
7619.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
7621.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
毛法而且我們裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
7621.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
7623.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
有強調未來的實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
7623.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
7625.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
辦法是由行政院各部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
7625.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
7627.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
自己去訂定他們可以去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
7627.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
7629.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
7629.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
7631.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
到底我現在要採取什麼樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
7631.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
7633.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
檢驗手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
7633.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
7635.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
那如果說前面兩個檢驗手段看起來好像不可行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
7635.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
7637.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
或是說發現敵人有漏洞的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
7637.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
7639.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
我至少還有第三個手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
7639.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
7641.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
難道我們要每一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
7641.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
7643.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
為了這樣的事情然後不斷的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
7643.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
7645.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
增加補氣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
7645.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
7647.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
莊昭偉你這個說法就是說到後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
7647.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
7649.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
已經是進入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
7649.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
7651.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
他到底有沒有犯罪的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
7651.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
7653.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
第一個不行第二個不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
7653.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
7655.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
已經給你第一個也不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
7655.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
7657.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
第二個也不行了就是代表你行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
7657.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
7659.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
要閉嘴了啦你不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
7659.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
7661.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
追殺人家啦要追殺給 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
7661.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
7663.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
司法機關去看他有沒有犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
7663.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
7665.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
來 陳昭偉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
7664.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
7666.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
我再接著來講就讓大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
7666.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
7668.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
再想想看因為這個譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
7668.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
7670.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
學校如果說監測器 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
7670.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
7672.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
假設我們看到有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
7672.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
7674.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
就是學生不管或是行政人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
7674.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
7676.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
他們做了這個吸毒的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
7676.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
7678.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
疑似吸毒的動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
7678.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
7680.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
那等到上班以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
7680.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
7682.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
或放完假以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
7682.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
7684.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
有人去看那個monitor發現有這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
7684.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
7686.69 |
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那我們要去找出 |
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7686.69 |
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這樣的人的時候這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
7688.69 |
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7690.69 |
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其實兩個方法都已經過去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
7690.69 |
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7692.69 |
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尿液這個時候就 |
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這個時候就給警察啦 |
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就到司法機關去喔 |
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還在疑似的地方所以我在 |
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想說說因為時間嘛 |
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7700.69 |
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大多尿液就是大概當天就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
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八成就不見了然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
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7706.69 |
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錯誤大概二到五個小時內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
7706.69 |
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是因為我剛剛還說涉及他 |
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7710.69 |
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檢驗能力他們一直搬出去一直跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
7710.69 |
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但是一直跑是他還測得出來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
7712.69 |
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7714.69 |
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那再來如果我剛剛就舉例嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
7714.69 |
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7716.69 |
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放個年文件過去了但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
7716.69 |
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7718.69 |
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這個吸毒假設有在做吸毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
7718.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
7720.69 |
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他不會立刻消失啊那這個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
7720.69 |
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7722.69 |
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我們如果不保留這個方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
7722.69 |
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7724.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
這個方法還沒有到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
7724.69 |
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7726.69 |
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我們在疑似啊而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
7726.69 |
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7728.69 |
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這個毛髮另外一個方法就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
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7730.69 |
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因為我在處理一些相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
7730.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
7732.69 |
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一個管理不管健保用藥的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
7732.69 |
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7734.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
管理另外一個方法當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
7734.69 |
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我也要尊重那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
7736.69 |
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7738.69 |
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翁委員是不是可以接受就是說你第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
7738.69 |
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7740.69 |
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的方法就是譬如說唾液跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
7740.69 |
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尿液因為他們是時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
7742.69 |
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7744.69 |
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很有限那第二線的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
7744.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
7746.69 |
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第二當這個都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
7746.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
7748.69 |
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可是你覺得他的行為還是有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
7748.69 |
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7750.69 |
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那你這個方法還是要背著啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
7750.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
7752.69 |
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有疑慮怎麼會是行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
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7754.69 |
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行政部門管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
7754.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
7756.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
那麼多鳥事幹什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
7756.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
7758.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
我剛剛還提議學生啊已經過了一個假期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
7758.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
7760.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
但是我想說一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
7760.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
7762.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
我們這個排行榜都給你標籤化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
7762.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
7764.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
問題是你現在整個作業要點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
7764.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
7766.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
裡面就有講大家懷疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
7766.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
7768.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
某個學生看他的行為有多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
7768.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
7770.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
問題的時候就可以去做檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
7770.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
7772.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
這是他們現在自己的作業要點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
7772.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
7774.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
裡面就講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
7774.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
7776.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
所以他並不是講說大家都 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
7776.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
7778.69 |
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很正常看起來都沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
7778.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
7780.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
然後我就來做篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
7780.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
7782.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
除此之外還有針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
7782.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
7784.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
看到這個駕駛感覺到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
7784.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
7786.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
他有點問題然後就要去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
7786.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
7788.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
7787.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
7789.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
所以我剛剛講就是說我們其實今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
7789.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
7791.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
訂33條是說他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
7791.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
7793.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
除了尿液、唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
7793.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
7795.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
再加一個毛髮的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
7795.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
7797.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
檢測然後所有的時事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
7797.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
7799.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
辦法由行政院自己去訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
7799.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
7801.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
他也可以說好吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
7801.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
7803.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
那我第一線我一開始我先用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
7803.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
7805.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
尿液、唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
7805.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
7807.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
然後之後發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
7807.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
7809.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
還是不是很妥當 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
7809.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
7811.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
市長毛髮還歸根 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
7812.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
7814.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
你說鑑定結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
7814.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
7816.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
鑑定結果毛髮還歸根 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
7816.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
7818.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
頭一定比較快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
7818.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
7820.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
毛髮一定超過一個月以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
7820.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
7822.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
這邊有一個調查局 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
7822.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
7824.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
毛髮檢體的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
7824.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
7826.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
他必須要集 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
7826.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
7828.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
他不是一根一根採 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
7828.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
7830.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
他要集中在後顱頂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
7830.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
7832.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
頂部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
7832.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
7834.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
而且要集中於數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
7834.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
7836.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
這一數的直徑要達0.7公分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
7838.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
7840.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
這個是他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
7840.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
7842.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
我剛剛看了一個這一數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
7842.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
7844.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
我剛剛起調查局回報結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
7844.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
7846.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
大概要25根左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
7846.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
7848.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
市長你說這樣的話我覺得又真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
7848.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
7850.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
背離科學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
7850.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
7852.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
你看到你們有時候看到有什麼殺人犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
7852.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
7854.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
然後屍體旁邊只要一根根的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
7854.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
7856.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
一點點的毛髮都可以去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
7856.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
7858.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
檢驗說到底他是哪一個犯罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
7858.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
7860.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
行為人有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
7860.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
7862.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
你現在要這樣一戳頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
7862.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
7864.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
立法院的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
7864.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
7866.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
官員來這個都 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
7866.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
7868.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
7868.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
7870.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
市長也不會亂講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
7870.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
7872.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
你說有時候難免口誤會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
7872.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
7874.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
我看他那麼堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
7874.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
7876.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
我們都對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
7876.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
7878.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
政府官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
7878.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
7880.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
尤其是專業機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
7880.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
7882.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
我們表達尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
7882.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
7884.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
大家再考慮一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
7884.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
7886.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
我們不能賦予行政部門等同是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
7886.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
7888.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
司法部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
7888.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
7890.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
說到這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
7890.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
7892.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
叫行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
7892.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
7894.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
來代行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
7894.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
7896.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
官員或者司法部門的職權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
7896.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
7898.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
這也怪怪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
7898.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
7900.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
7900.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
7902.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
我的基因裡面告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
7902.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
7904.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
告訴我這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
7904.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
7906.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
不然換我們這條就先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
7906.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
7908.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
這條先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
7908.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
7910.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
這條已經拖到兩點鐘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
7914 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
7916 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
33條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
7918.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
7920.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
這樣就配合33條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
7920.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
7922.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
修正著修 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
7922.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
7924.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
這也是毛法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
7924.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
7926.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
7926.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
7928.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
這33條之一也要跟著 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
7929.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
7931.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
36條也保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
7933.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
7935.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
這樣就全部都保留了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
7935.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
7937.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
其實都有今天的討論也有他的價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
7937.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
7939.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
在大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
7939.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
7941.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
下一次協商的時刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
7941.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
7943.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
大家再來討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
7943.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
7945.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
我請各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
7945.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
7947.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
我知道今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
7947.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
7949.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
司法法制委員會的委員今天會到場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
7949.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
7951.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
其實大家都有對這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
7951.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
7953.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
充分的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
7953.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
7955.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
我看發言都有所本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
7955.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
7957.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
大家也都充分的一個準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
7957.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
7959.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
但是涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
7959.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
7961.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
是不是要讓行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
7961.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
7963.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
讓他擁有跟司法機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
7963.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
7965.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
同等的一個權限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
7965.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
7967.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
要不要多給他這樣的一個武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
7967.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
7969.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
大家再考慮看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
7972.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
7974.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
這樣3條問題都保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
7977.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
7979.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
那附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
7979.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
7981.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
請問提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
7981.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
7983.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
這條什麼人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
7983.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
7985.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
是第一項嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
7985.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
7987.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
承高市委員來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
7987.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
7989.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
那今天唾液沒有保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
7989.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
7991.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
7991.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
7993.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
剛剛連張菡小孩子范元元都有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
7993.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
7995.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
他們有所謂的偽陽性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
7995.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
7997.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
偽陽性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
7997.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
7999.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
7999.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
8001.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
因為任何檢查都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
8001.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
8003.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
那我們今天還不談偽陰性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
8003.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
8005.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
偽陽性的意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
8005.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
8007.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
那我跟科學先解釋一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
8007.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
8009.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
假設你要測一托米紙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
8009.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
8011.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
結果別的東西也都被測到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
8011.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
8013.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
但他不是毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
8013.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
8015.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
也不是一托米紙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
8015.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
8017.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
那偽陰相對就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
8017.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
8019.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
你的敏感性不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
8019.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
8021.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
那個量其實存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
8021.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
8023.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
但是你的檢驗能力出問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
8023.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
8025.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
就測不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
8025.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
8027.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
我們先看偽陽性這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
8027.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
8029.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
我實際上是幫第一層的員警請命 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
8029.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
8031.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
因為他們就是做這個執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
8031.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
8033.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
這個大概尿液跟唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
8033.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
8035.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
那如果是因為試劑來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
8035.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
8037.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
或技術上出問題的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
8037.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
8039.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
那當場就開單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
8039.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
8041.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
要一致保管車輛甚至扣罩 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
8041.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
8043.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
那事後檢驗結果卻沒有吸毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
8043.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
8045.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
因為現在偽陽性已經出現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
8045.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
8047.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
那第一線員警怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
8047.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
8049.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
他第一個也有壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
8049.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
8051.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
那如果民眾事後要提救濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
8051.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
8053.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
那我們要怎麼來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
8053.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
8055.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
因為他可能損失很多吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
8055.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
8057.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
車子也不能工作了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
8057.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
8059.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
這些情況問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
8059.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
8061.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
我想我就不要完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
8061.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
8063.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
希望本來今天不管過或沒有過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
8063.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
8065.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
是不是就是要盡快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
8065.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
8067.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
也許我是寫三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
8067.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
8069.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
你先把這個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
8069.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
8071.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
對你的提案請他們表達看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
8071.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
8073.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
因為我的提案的次數不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
8073.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
8075.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
沒關係 那就市長你們對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
8075.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
8077.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
陳昭之委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
8077.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
8079.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
補救機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
8079.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
8081.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
有關於快篩委員補救機制的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
8081.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
8083.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
因為委員是提到車輛保管 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
8083.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
8085.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
調扣駕照跟裁罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
8085.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
8087.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
其實這跟法務部的執掌沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
8087.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
8089.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
那關於這個使用快篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
8089.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
8091.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
第一線也是警察使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
8091.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
8093.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
法務部本身沒有在用這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
8093.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
8095.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
所以請法務部會同這個可能是不是主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
8095.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
8097.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
是不是要改一個真正的目的事業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
8097.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
8099.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
可以了 給你們研議一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
8099.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
8103.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
他是研議具體的救濟跟補償機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
8103.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
8105.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
給你們研議而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
8105.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
8107.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
不是 我想問說是不是交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
8107.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
8109.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
因為前面講的車輛標扣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
8109.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
8111.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
你們研議的不是法務部啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
8111.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
8113.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
第一線執法的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
8116.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
8118.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
法務部本身沒有在用快篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
8120.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
8122.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
這樣這個應該算關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
8128.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
8130.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
交通部的不是那樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
8130.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
8132.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
我們去跟他們說這個電交通部這樣也怪怪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
8133.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
8137.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
我們是希望法務部會同那個衛福部來警政署 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
8137.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
8139.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
去把這件事研擬出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
8139.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
8141.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
因為這個委洋性的可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
8141.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
8143.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
我們可以參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
8143.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
8145.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
主責機關還是主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
8145.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
8147.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
我們可以協同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
8150.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
8152.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
趙志 我們不是主責機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
8152.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
8154.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
應該不是我們司法法制委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
8156.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
8158.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
這個案應該不是在我們這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
8160.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
8162.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
不過他們可以去研議了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
8162.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
8164.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
跨部會大家都沒人去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
8164.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
8166.12 |
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是啦 這應該是交通委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
8165.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
8167.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
交通委員會 我們在處理毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
8169.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
8171.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
我們處理毒品的設計到的全部都不是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
8172.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
8174.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
司法法制主責的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
8174.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
8176.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
因為他是扣押車輛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
8176.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
8178.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
調扣駕照採法都不是屬於司法法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
8178.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
8180.7 |
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他就是因為測出他是陽性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
8180.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
8182.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
但是後來發現證實是偽的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
8182.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
8184.7 |
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所以說就不對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
8185.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
8187.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
不對啦 不對啦 你後面做的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
8187.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
8189.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
你要給他一個補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
8189.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
8191.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
這啦 法務部不是他補充的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
8191.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
8193.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
他認為他的執掌就不是在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
8194.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
8196.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
沒有 可是他整個的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
8196.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
8198.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
偽陽性的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
8198.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
8200.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
還是你這個去交通處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
8204.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
8206.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
法務部甚至到有關補償的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
8206.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
8208.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
相關的這個法律救濟的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
8208.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
8210.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
應該是法務部這邊也可以研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
8210.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
8212.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
就算是可能不是你們主管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
8212.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
8214.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
法規能提一個報告也 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
8214.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
8216.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
應該啊 但是我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
8216.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
8218.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
這只是一個報告而已嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
8218.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
8220.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
但是我想因為其實每個主管 目的事業主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
8220.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
8222.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
機關他都 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
8222.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
8224.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
你如果要這樣講的話 那這樣等於是所有事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
8224.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
8226.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
都可以回到法務部啊 可是不是嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
8226.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
8228.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
應該還是要回到這件事情到底事實上是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
8228.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
8230.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
誰主責嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
8230.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
8232.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
所以我覺得大家講這東西我都 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
8232.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
8234.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
非常認同 他的確發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
8234.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
8236.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
我們也收到很多陳情 只是說今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
8236.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
8238.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
目的事業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
8238.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
8240.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
不是在司法法制委員會嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
8240.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
8242.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
所以才會說建議說是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
8242.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
8244.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
到交 我是不是太確定到底是交通委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
8244.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
8246.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
還是內政委員會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
8246.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
8248.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
那是不是應該到那邊去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
8248.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
8250.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
處理才對 因為所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
8250.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
8252.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
機關都會去處理救濟補償 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
8252.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
8254.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
因為你這個說的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
8254.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
8256.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
這個當場那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
8256.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
8258.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
車輛氣溫一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
8258.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
8260.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
啊 調控駕照啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
8260.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
8262.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
啊 還有裁罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
8262.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
8264.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
啊 這一些其實你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
8264.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
8266.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
叫他的補償機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
8266.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
8268.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
要怎樣 你的車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
8268.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
8270.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
要怎麼拆掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
8270.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
8272.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
去給他拆掉 去補罐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
8272.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
8274.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
還是那個調造 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
8274.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
8276.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
那個駕照 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
8276.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
8278.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
調控駕照 你說救濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
8278.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
8280.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
應該是交通部咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
8280.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
8282.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
事後證明是清白的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
8282.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
8284.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
8284.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
8286.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
我意思說針對這些事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
8286.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
8288.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
要怎麼救濟的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
8288.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
8290.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
是不是交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
8292.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
8294.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
不是說你這個不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
8294.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
8296.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
我的意思說是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
8296.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
8298.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
這不見得是跟交通部有關啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
8298.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
8300.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
因為這邊是講第一線執法人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
8300.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
8302.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
那法務部下面有很多也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
8302.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
8304.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
執法人員 對他測速 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
8304.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
8306.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
如果有偽陽性 那你到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
8306.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
8308.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
你法務部要怎麼針對這些偽陽性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
8308.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
8310.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
的這些人員們 然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
8310.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
8312.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
來這個 他不見得是指 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
8312.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
8314.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
員警 當然有員警 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
8314.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
8316.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
然後還有其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
8316.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
8318.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
這些人也都是一樣嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
8318.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
8320.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
那我現在是講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
8320.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
8322.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
今天是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
8322.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
8324.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
提出一個補償 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
8324.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
8326.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
從法律的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
8326.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
8328.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
應該要修什麼法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
8328.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
8330.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
然後提什麼樣的補償 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
8330.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
8332.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
我知道 不然你就不要列舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
8332.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
8334.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
不然你就不要列舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
8335.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
8337.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
我們列舉可能就偽陽性造成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
8337.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
8339.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
結果那要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
8339.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
8341.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
好啦 這個我要說協商的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
8341.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
8343.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
大家都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
8343.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
8345.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
協商的時候 我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
8345.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
8347.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
我們碰到一個問題啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
8347.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
8349.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
你看我們昨天那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
8349.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
8351.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
今天禮拜幾 禮拜三 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
8351.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
8353.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
你看我們前幾天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
8353.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
8355.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
兄弟姐妹特留分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
8355.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
8357.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
三組對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
8357.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
8359.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
叫好對不對 夜館音啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
8361.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
8363.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
真的在演的誰 跟他們都無關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
8363.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
8365.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
8365.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
8367.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
所以我們才是會定一個日出啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
8367.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
8369.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
那為什麼大家敲不下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
8369.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
8371.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
重點就是在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
8371.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
8373.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
講到這個兄弟姐妹特留分的規定喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
8373.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
8375.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
雖然說昨天三讀通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
8375.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
8377.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
但是我還是有很大的不滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
8376.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
8378.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
因為這明明就是可以立刻實施的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
8378.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
8380.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
然後又是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
8380.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
8382.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
8382.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
8384.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
我知道 朝野協商就每個洞都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
8384.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
8386.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
大家都跟你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
8386.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
8388.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
這個條文三黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
8388.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
8390.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
大家都沒有意見的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
8390.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
8392.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
就是說那一些配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
8392.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
8394.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
反正三黨也有意見 但是我就說我有意見喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
8394.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
8396.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
因為我也要表達我們的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
8396.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
8398.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
其實很多的老闆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
8398.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
8400.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
今天還不知道說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
8400.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
8402.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
三讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
8402.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
8404.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
就是我們有一百十三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
8404.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
8406.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
所以說你有你的意見是好事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
8406.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
8408.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
搞不好一百一十二個人都睡著了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
8408.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
8410.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
只有你是醒著的 也有可能喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
8411.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
8413.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
所以我說我今天是表達我個人的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
8413.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
8415.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
我對你就是說這一次的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
8415.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
8417.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
通過我去支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
8417.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
8419.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
可是為什麼要延後半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
8419.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
8421.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
那沒辦法 朝野協商大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
8421.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
8423.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
朝野協商大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
8423.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
8425.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
我們還是回到毒品現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
8425.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
8427.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
這個討論好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
8427.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
8429.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
這樣扯不完 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
8429.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
8431.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
本案提案委員是否撤回 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
8431.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
8433.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
另一黨團協商的時候再提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
8435.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
8437.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
朝之你這個黨團協商的時候再提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
8437.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
8439.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
因為我覺得這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
8439.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
8441.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
本身我是非常支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
8441.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
8443.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
還是你文字調整一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
8443.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
8445.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
但是你要不要 因為我們真的都是想要處理這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
8445.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
8447.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
我們就讓他回到對的部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
8447.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
8449.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
我的建議是讓他回到對的部會去解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
8449.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
8451.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
因為這才是我們想要做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
8451.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
8453.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
這件事情的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
8453.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
8455.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
好啦這樣我聽到啦 這樣我幫他處理啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
8455.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
8457.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
朝之你這個喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
8457.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
8459.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
你這次先撤回 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
8459.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
8461.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
黨團協商的時候你文字做個修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
8461.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
8463.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
大家好過這樣好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
8463.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
8465.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
好 可以啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
8465.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
8467.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
我就針對偽陽性這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
8467.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
8469.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
沒有問題 你這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
8469.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
8471.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
到時候你這個提出來一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
8471.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
8473.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
黨團協商的時候 朝野協商再提出來一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
8473.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
8475.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
這樣這條就先 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
8475.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
8477.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
這樣就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
8477.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
8479.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
所以駕駛人改成當事人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
8479.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
8481.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
那附帶決議第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
8481.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
8483.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
當事人同意就先撤回 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
8483.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
8485.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
來現在第二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
8484.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
8486.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
第二案就我的了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
8486.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
8488.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
第二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
8488.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
8490.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
第二案喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
8490.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
8492.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
就是說剛才有念過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
8492.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
8494.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
請法務部家你們看法是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
8496.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
8498.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
對這個附帶決議內有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
8498.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
8500.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
沒有意見啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
8500.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
8502.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
不好意思這個你還涉及網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
8502.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
8504.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
訴發部不在怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
8504.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
8506.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
你這是你的吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
8506.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
8508.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
因為我現在整個連衛環 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
8508.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
8510.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
全部大家都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
8510.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
8512.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
講的還是毒品啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
8512.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
8514.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
這是台灣販毒的保溫啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
8514.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
8516.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
訴發部一樣躲得遠遠啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
8516.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
8518.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
訴發部都不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
8518.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
8520.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
每次講一講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
8520.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
8522.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
移除貼文這個是他們嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
8522.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
8524.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
移除貼文是他們要做的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
8524.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
8526.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
地方立法院的訴發部敢反對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
8529.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
8531.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
幹什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
8531.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
8533.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
我不知道訴發部要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
8533.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
8535.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
不是我跟你講喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
8535.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
8537.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
你說為了防範 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
8537.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
8539.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
為了防治 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
8539.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
8541.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
兒少因為心智未成熟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
8541.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
8543.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
容易受到網站跟行動應用程式接觸毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
8543.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
8545.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
我們說各主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
8545.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
8547.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
跟司法警察機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
8547.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
8549.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
可以讓網站業者行動業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
8549.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
8551.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
移除 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
8551.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
8553.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
這個台還有個訴發部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
8553.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
8555.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
各個機關全部要遵守我們司法法制委員會的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
8555.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
8557.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
這個決議啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
8557.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
8559.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
法務部也認為合理啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
8558.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
8560.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
這個已經都反對了耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
8560.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
8562.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
我大概質詢說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
8562.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
8564.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
電子煙商店 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
8564.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
8566.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
我每次都叫他們現場處理啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
8566.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
8568.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
是啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
8568.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
8570.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
你都很好的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
8570.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
8572.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
你都先知 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
8572.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
8574.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
我都打電話給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
8574.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
8576.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
全立法院就理想專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
8576.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
8578.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
人又好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
8578.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
8580.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
都買得到啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
8580.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
8582.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
心又認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
8582.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
8584.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
重點就是朝會誰能出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
8583.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
8585.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
就代表你大伯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
8585.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
8587.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
8587.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
8589.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
來安樂這個法務部沒有意見啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
8590.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
8592.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
好,那就附帶決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
8592.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
8594.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
就照案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
8595.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
8597.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
就請我們參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
8599.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
8601.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
本案逐條均已處理完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
8601.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
8603.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
來做以下宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
8603.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
8605.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
本案審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
8605.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
8607.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
擬具審查報告提請院會公決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
8607.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
8609.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
那本案是我經過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
8609.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
8611.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
黨壇協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
8611.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
8613.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
就來交付黨壇協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
8613.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
8615.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
那院會討論時 |
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由莊召集委員瑞雄出席說明 |
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那附帶決議一項 |
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一併提報院會處理 |
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調次引述條文部分 |
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文字及法字用於 |
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授權主席跟議事人員來做整理 |
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那本次會議 |
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我們就進行到此為止 |
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議程討論事項第二案 |
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做如下決議 |
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另定期繼續審查 |
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現在上會謝謝大家辛苦了 |
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謝謝昭偉英明 |
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謝謝昭偉 |
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一場論戰 |
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謝謝 |
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請問會議會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會 |
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